PBD Podcast - Hunter Biden's WILD Interview, Trump SUES WSJ & Stephen Colbert FIRED w/ Sean Hannity | PBD Podcast | Ep. 619

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick are joined by Sean Hannity to break down Trump’s explosive lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal over his reported Epstein birthday letter, the shocking firing of Stephen Colbert, and Hunter Biden’s jaw-dropping, curse filled interview.------🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so pleased like it tastes sweet victory Know this life meant for me Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright My handshake is better than anything I ever saw, it's right here You are a 101? My son drives that, man

I think I've ever said this before Okay guys, so we're gonna make a massive announcement here today momentarily we got Sean Hannity just landed on the helicopter but he landed on the other side so we sent the driver to bring him over here so he'll be here momentarily when he does you'll see him walking in and the timing is kind of weird with everything that's going on, and who knows if he can speak it. God bless you. Who knows? These are on that true coming in hot. Sabrekov, you know, if you're Armenian. Anyways, who knows if he can even speak on it or not

with everything that's going on. We're gonna talk about it and go through it. I found a clip, a very weird clip, you guys gotta see. I'll show you, It has to do with probably the guy that hates Trump the most in America that had some inside scoop on Epstein that nobody else, I mean, if this guy could say anything bad about him, he would, Rob, I think you saw the clip, I don't want you to pull it up yet.

We'll get to it here in a minute, but we got a lot of stories to go through, announcements about speakers at the vault, so hang tight, I'll get into it, but let's go through some of the stories here. All right. Wall Street Journal gets sued by Trump, $10 billion after releasing the letter that apparently the president wrote to Epstein, I think it was for his 50th or something like that. And he was doodling and all these other things, which there's a bunch of controversy behind it. No, he doesn't. Yes, he does You know, what's the big deal leave it alone?

So we'll have some time to go through that and he said he can't wait to see You know Rupert Murdoch's face after just a few months ago talking very nicely about Rupert Murdoch, which will show the clip and again today's guests got a good relationship with both of them works for Murdoch, but it show the clip. And again, today's guest got a good relationship with both of them. Works for Murdoch, but it's got a good relationship with Trump as a friend for many, many decades, which we'll get into. Hunter Biden does a podcast with Channel 5 guy, which ends up becoming gangbusters all over the place. He drops the F-bomb, I think, 15 times in the span of a minute and 10 seconds.

New record. He announces that he wants to run for president. Guys, you may have Hunter Biden as your president in 2020. Hello, party in, you know, White House is gonna be like, you know, President Trump's trying to do a, you know, UFC fight at the White House under Hunter Biden. Shit, after hours, you know, you're going out to the nightclub like, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh.

Everyone's outside. You don't have to go to the nightclub, you just walk down to the blue room and they got the cocaine. But if they find cocaine in the White House, it's not going to be his. Yeah, he said the cocaine is from the previous administration. Oh yeah, yeah. Because they're all behind the phone. No, no, no.

As president, this cocaine is for the people. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, that would be an entertaining, you know, administration if it ever ends up happening. Donald Trump signs major crypto-legislation genius act into law. Trump calls for the release of Epstein's grand jury testimony. Trump sues Walter, I told you that. Boom, boom, boom. Trump says, I absolutely love that Stephen Colbert got fired and I hear Jimmy Kimmel

is next. Shoot, look at the numbers. Colbert is number one for seven straight years and you fire him and he's beating Kimmel and Fallon? Who the hell is next Fallon and you know who replaces them do they continue to show if they do who do they bring do they bring somebody like a you know who's the guy that recently was on ESPY's and he crushed it. Do they bring a Shane Gillis that calls everybody out who was ousted from who knows what's gonna happen but you know I don't know what direction those guys are gonna go.

Wherever they bring, it's not 20 million a year. Watch them bring Joey Reed next, and just completely confuse everybody. Oh, pay her minimum wage. Stephen Colbert's late show operated a $40 million loss, similar to the WNBA, it's actually interesting. They both have a $40 million loss, and you guys know Adam's a diehard fan of the WNBA.

Oh yeah, and he's a big woman, that makes sense. John Stewart fears Paramount may end Daily Show. Tulsi Gabbard calls for Obama to be prosecuted over 2016 election claims. Top politician who's a shoot-in to win 2020 presidential election name, and we'll talk about that. Some of you guys may know who it is. We'll come back to it and look at what Paulie Markey is saying with the presidential for 2020.

McDonald's AI chat bot hiring exposed data of job candidates. Elon's inventory piles up Tesla cyber truck sales plummeted ready 51% a second quarter. That is terrible. I mean, it's so bad that Adam's even going to ask him for this. They're going to give it up for this guy. No, I'm asking for a decent regard, right? Newsom proposes these permits for oil drilling California.

Now he wants to do it after what the point Tom made yesterday. California tied for highest unemployment in the country and tied with Nevada. And while Newsom is trying to distract everybody from focusing on Florida and other states, his state keeps getting bad stats and we'll definitely talk about that.

Maybe we'll start off with that with Hannity because Hannity had Newsom on, and Wes Moore. Trump deserves credit for securing border. Now you gotta realize who Wes Moore is. Wes Moore is a name that a lot of people on the left would like to see this man run, because some say he's like an Obama, some say he's even better than an Obama.

I think he's the Maryland governor, if I'm not mistaken. Super capable guy on the left formidable You got to keep that name Wes more How YouTube won the battle for TV viewers Pierce Morgan accused of joy read a plain race card Inheated exchange over MSNBC firing and guess who shows up out of nowhere You know guy comes up Michael knows handsome good-looking guy and They kind of go back and forth and it wasn't pretty for Joy Reid, okay?

But knowing the way the media works, they may just hire, she may get a job here soon somewhere. And then Israeli military investigates report of harm to civilians after hundreds killed near Gaza aid sites. Officials say 85 Palestinians seek aid are killed in Gaza as Israelis widened evacuation orders and the Kamala Harris mocked for post celebrating one year anniversary of failed presidential campaign is what she is going through as well. Now Rob, tell me what's going on out there because when I go into my announcement, I

don't want any disruption. Can you find out what's going on? So maybe wait till I announce the guest. Do we have him here? Rob Stewart The golf cart's pulling up to the building now. So golf cart's pulling up to the building now. Kelly, if you're listening, what's the ETA? Are we two minutes?

Then I'm gonna get into the announcement while I'm making the announcement. Don't bring them in while I'm going through an announcement. All right, so let me tell you guys what's going on. Deval Conference, September 8th through the 11th. Nearly 12,000 people will be coming this year, but we have three guest speakers that I'll be announcing here to you, and it's going to be massive. And they're all intentionally invited for different reasons.

Rob, I don't want you to play the video until I make the announcement for the guest, and then we can play the clip afterwards. But this was all intentional. And there's going to be a handful of massive announcements being made at the Vault Conference. If you're somebody that's running a business owner, the great thing about the Vault is you'll be having a conversation with somebody at the event and you're just running to them at the store and they're an aspiring entrepreneur. Then you go to talk to somebody else that they're an executive of a Fortune 500 company.

Then you go talk to somebody else who just exited their company and sold it for $700 million. Then you go talk to somebody else that's there with a big private equity company that's trying to deploy hundreds of millions of dollars. Then you go talk to somebody else from Goldman Sachs that's a money manager. The types of people, then you go talk to somebody else that's a podcaster, a YouTuber that you recognize their faces. The types of people that show up to the vault makes it a reason why this is becoming a number

one business conference in America, that you go to actually get strategies that you leave, you implement, you can win in life business, all of it combined together. So the three speakers that we have are to follow. Number one speaker. For me, you guys know I'm a big fan of the movie Air, and you guys know I'm a big fan of anybody that's a strong negotiator that's done some of the biggest deals ever. We were able to get David Falk, Michael Jordan's agent, manager, who signed the Nike deal, who by the way, in 1982 he was the first person to sign a multi-million dollar deal for James Worthy.

He was the first agent to sign a hundred million dollar deal with Alonzo Mourning. Michael Jordan gives him so much credit. I can't wait to sit down and talk to him. He was one of the most entertaining characters in the movie. Air story of Michael Jordan. Number two speaker that we'll have at the vault conference is the OG content creator, brand person, influencer, who became a billionaire in 1999, who understood what it looked like to be in front of a camera. Martha Stewart will be at the vault conference. We're excited about that. She had one of the best documentaries that everybody talks about and I'll be sitting

on with her interviewer at the vault conference. A lot of you fellas that want to bring your wives down, just let them know Martha Stewart's going to be there. They're going to want to come in here and see what she has to say. And last but not least, the keynote speaker at the vault conference that won't be speaking for 30 minutes, not 45 minutes, not an hour, not an hour and 15 minutes, for two hours, the one and only Tony Robbins will be at the vault conference. Tony Robbins will be at the vault conference.

So we're excited about that. This is a very, very big deal because there will be multiple big announcements being made there. Some of you guys are going to get a chance to meet the guests that are going to be there. Having said that, Rob, you can play the clip here right now. If you haven't been to the conference, if you haven't yet registered, go to the vault conference, get registered, get your ticket, bring your spouse, bring your partner, bring your other employees and executives with you.

Come spend three and a half days with us at the Gaylord Orlando. At the end of the event, the people that get CEO tickets, we're shutting down Universal Studios. You can go on Velocicoaster as many times as you want to. You can go on the rides, we'll be hanging out, literally we're shutting down the entire Universal Studios at the end for all the CEOs to have some fun. You're going to see 58-year-olds act like they're 16 years old and we're doing business at the same time, which makes it kind of exciting.

Rob, at this point, I've been going for a minute, we don't need to play the clip. We can just go ahead and drive people to TheVaultConference.com. Again, go to TheVaultConference.com website, TheVaultConference.com. Get your ticket. This is by far the most important time for you to not go through this process by yourself. Come network with nearly 12,000 people in one room and take your business and your life to the next level. Can't wait to see you there.

And with that being said, our guest is in the house, the one and only Sean Hannity. Come on in Sean Hannity. Sean Hannity – How are you? How are you doing man? Good to finally meet you. Pleasure. Yes. Sean Hannity – Thank you for doing my show so much.

Of course, of course. Sean Hannity – How are you? Nice to meet you. Very nice to meet you. Sean Hannity – How are you doing man? Good to finally meet you. Sean Hannity – Thank you for doing my show so much. Of course, of course. You're right here. Yes, you are right here. All right. Welcome Mr. Hannity. So Sean, next time we've got to send you our helicopter guy to bring you to the right side

of the airport side of the airport I know instead of the other side. I was here on time for the record. Yeah, usually late. I don't like being late At all, so it's true what they say about you do have perfect there You look like you could have gone to Hollywood side if you wanted to no I just got blown over the well Listen if any there's like that fix them up after getting off the helicopter Yeah, if you could if you if you look like after the helicopter, you're doing good for yourself. Where's my volume? I am deaf.

You know I started radio in 1987. You weren't born yet. I was born in 78. So nine years prior to that. You think I'm that young? If you think I'm 37, I like you already. I'm 46. Well, you like me already because you can't hear yourself?

Yeah, a little louder would be great. Like I have amplifiers. Big knob up top yeah there we go it's not terrible hear yourself or no check one two you know what I'm better off without my cans okay then just make sure you're as close to that I talked to a microphone really yeah that how that works it's your first time on camera first time on camera first time doing ready listen we're to coach you through it. Don't be nervous. It's going to be okay.

Do I look nervous? Professional. Listen, you haven't been doing this for too long. Well, look, I got to compliment you guys, number one. If I was going to start my career today, I would not do it the way I did it. When I started in radio, there were 200, maybe 250 talk radio stations in the country. That was well over 5,000. I never thought I'd be on,

we're getting up to like 770 stations, which is great, cause we literally cover the entire country, then we also podcast it, and then we also put it on serious exam. I was so fortunate to get to Fox in October. I will have completed 30 years on Fox News. Crazy right? Respect. Who's been there 30 years? Nobody. No there's been a couple of us. No TV 30 years? The longest running primetime cable news show in the history of cable news. That's what I'm saying that's insane. It's insane. Congratulations. Thank you.

That's unbelievable. I feel blessed because I don't know what happened. You guys experienced this. First time that light went on and I got in front of this thing, it changed my life. That's all I cared about. That's all I wanted to do. It changed my life dramatically. I feel blessed to do it every day.

I dial in. I focus. I just immerse myself in information constantly and then I get to meet great guys like you. So it's an honor to be here. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, I mean listen, for folks who don't do this, to think about 30 years and you have to manage vacations, personal life, crisis, challenges, issues.

Vacation, what is that? Well, I mean listen, you've made money. You've made a few hundred million dollars. You're a pretty wealthy guy. You've done very well. Are you sure about that? I read all these net worth statements. Nobody's ever gotten it right.

Stop it. Really? No. I don't believe it. They haven't gotten the number right. They haven't gotten the number right? Can I give a range? I'm going to give a range.

Oh, you want to know how much I'm worth? I'm going to give a range. Do you think I'm telling you that? But then don't say that. They haven't gotten it right. And don't say they've gotten it right or not. But the biggest part about it that's inspiring to younger guys that are coming up is that if you're out there, you work your ass off long term, you stay consistent, steady, you can make life changing money in this business, but it takes discipline, hard work, outlast, outperform, out-improving.

You've simply been able to do it. It's not an easy thing to do. I'm so glad you said that because the real work is not on the air. The on-air part is the fun part, right? It's all the research, all the reading. I just immerse myself five days a week and that's pretty much all I do, you know, in one capacity or another. Well, you mind if we get into stories?

Whatever, I don't care. It's your podcast, I'm just a guest here. Well listen, if you say that, then I want to get into real stories. I'm just telling you because you happen to be in a very, you know, strange place that I don't even know if you can speak on the story or not because on one end, you work for Fox News. I do. Okay?

And you've been there for… 30 years. 30 years in October. Thank you. Somebody has a memory here. Let's go. And you've been there for 30 years in October. Thank you. Somebody has a memory here. Let's go. And 30 years with Fox News.

On the other end, you have a very good relationship with the president, President Trump. And so you're kind of in the middle of the thing where last week, I'm not sure if you can speak on it or not, obviously we're going to open up with the story because it's you, Fox, Trump, and we've been talking about this whole Epstein thing for a minute. Trump, while everyone's talking about everything that's going on, you post this message last week on all the victories that most people are not looking. They're overlooking. Rob, if you can play this clip real quick, and you're going to react to yourself real

quick. Go ahead, Rob. I want to agree that I have been a longtime friend and supporter, and have been very transparent of President Trump. But even I am frankly amazed at what he has been able to do against all odds in such a very short period of time. What we're living through, you better take really close notes, because you most likely will never see this again in your lifetime, the single most consequential transformational presidency in our

lifetime and without a doubt the underlying theme of the White House, promises made right, promises kept. Okay, so the different victories that he's had, President Trump, we've seen and we followed very closely victories that he's had President Trump. We've seen him. We followed very closely On what he's done then all of a sudden Wall Street Journal releases a story last week I want to say is it last week Tuesday? Yeah last week about a letter that the president got or wrote to Epstein At his 50th birthday party. I believe and Rob you if you tell me what letter this letter pages on Trump says okay Okay, so birthday party, I believe, and Rob, if you tell me what page this page is on, Trump's is okay. Okay, so is that page five, Trump sues Wall Street Journal, Rupert Murdoch, over the Epstein

letter, okay? And as you go through the letter, most people are saying this is not true. Most people are saying this is not a real story. Most people are saying he's not doing this He's not doodling. Well, he does doodle. No, he doesn't doodle. My father would never write this Everyone's going back and forth because this Epstein thing became in my opinion. I've said it on Jesse I've said it on many different places. It was a fumble I don't think it was handled properly promises were made promises were not kept when it comes down to

This specific topic and it I rated a lot of different people and he's over the years said a lot of bad things about Epstein on camera. He said here's a guy that did he kill himself they did not kill himself, did this happen, did that not happen, who knows what happened, we got to get to the bottom of it and you're in the middle. How do you manage for you? You go to work, your friend is Trump, President Trump for many years and your boss is Rupert Murdoch, they used to be good, now he is suing your boss for $10 billion. How do you manage that? It's easy, I just always tell the truth. It's not really that complicated. I have been blessed to work for a company that lets me be me. And honestly, that is rare in broadcasting.

You're independent, you make your own decisions, right? But for the most part, I make my own decisions. I don't really, I don't have these handcuffs on that maybe some other people at other networks do. What I do for a living is I am a member of the press, right? I can produce thousands of hours of straight news coverage, radio and TV, over my career. I can produce thousands of hours of investigative reporting.

I can produce thousands of hours of opinion, but I'm upfront, I'm honest, I am a conservative. I don't hide the fact that I support Donald Trump. I can produce thousands of hours, radio and TV, topics on culture and sports and anything else that's going on in the world. So I just find it interesting, whenever people, I find for myself, when people start getting really loud and emotional and rushing to judgment, I have this reaction, I pull back. You know, one of the things, my first thought is,

on the Epstein files, is if there was something so damning in there about Donald Trump and the weaponized Department of Justice of Joe Biden had it, does anyone here doubt they would have released it? Just one, Sean, if they're all on it, too If Bill Clinton and all that group is in there, they're like we really want to but we can't because we're in with him It could have selectively leaked up. I mean, they're more sophisticated But the investigation opens up Sean, but I see where you're coming from

But if that's what it felt like to the I'm just like you I love the president I love what he's doing Pat mentioned that he stumbled but that's the one thing that hit me in my head where I'm like maybe I'm not saying he's definitely on it but I mean he knew the guy maybe they're all on it they're all on it okay so add one more piece of the to the puzzle right because to me it's a puzzle people trying to put it together 20 plus years ago he threw his ass out of Mar-a-Lago. Okay now you got something on somebody you're gonna throw them out of your club in a spectacular fashion and embarrass the hell out of the guy and not expect that that guy's gonna come back at you with with information if he had it. I don't

know that's that's hard for me to believe. Let me backtrack a hair and how my brain works and the way I approach things You want the long version of the short one what I want to know is if there's anyone I have a long version. No, give me you 30 years. You've been in this business. You're in New York You come to Florida a lot. No, I live in Florida. I'm done I saw that May Freaking oh, yeah, welcome. We did the same thing. We left, California. We lived in Dallas five years now. We've been here four years We love it, we lived in Dallas five years now. We've been here four years, we love it. But the entire, your understanding

of what's happened with Epstein, you've been in this 30 years. 30 years is a long time ago where stories, 90s, 95, come in and you're hearing stuff about this guy. What is your impression? Is this a bad guy? Is this guy, did this guy do what he did? Because some people are saying, who knows if he did?

Now they're saying, who knows if the story's right or wrong. I know the story when he got kicked out of Mar-a-Lago is because of how he treated young women. That I know for a fact. It wasn't for no reason at all. The reason he got kicked out was because of his treatment of young women at Mar-a-Lago. Let me backtrack to what I was gonna say. So I was a local radio host before I started a Fox in Atlanta. First

I spent five years in Santa Barbara, California. I went to Huntsville, Alabama. I was paid 19 grand a year, but I loved what I was doing. I loved being behind this microphone. Then I got a promotion to a big market Atlanta. I was there from 92 to 96 I can get you the year-end edition of the Atlanta Journal Constitution 1996 was a great year the Olympics came and Sean Hannity left have that framed That's great. That's pretty cool, right? And I guess I had some impacts on the market and then that's when I got hired by Fox. So I went up to Fox however Right, and I guess I had some impacts on the market and then that's when I got hired by Fox So I went up to Fox however

My last year there remember the the Olympics in the city of Atlanta remember that mm-hmm Okay, remember a guy by the name of Richard Jewell of course he was the guy that I think Security guy that was falsely accused when he actually found the backpack okay? Here's the better part of the story Oh, they made a movie about this guy, yes of course. I'm on the air the day that the Atlanta Journal Constitution comes out with he fits the profile of the lone bomber because he lives with his mother. Okay maybe he lives with his mother because he wants to save money right? I like where this guy's heads at. I was instinctively on the air suspicious that This is a you know, I'm not rushing a judgment here. Little did I know and I found out later

Richard Jule was listening to my program at that moment and we had a conversation later I got one of the early interviews with with him According to his lawyer the stress of all this killed this guy getting hammered in the press It went on for a long long period of time but when he came on the program that taught me a valuable lesson about rushing a judgment. So I have a history right everyone has a history in broadcasting and I've learned not to rush to judgment and I like to watch stories develop that's why I said when people start going in and you know racing out there and they're trying to outdo each other and they want to be first and they got their theory and I

kind of feel a little bit like this on the Epstein story but if you go through my list of issues I got right over the years and everyone else in the in the corrupt legacy state-run media mob got wrong I was right about Duke Lacrosse. I went to meet with those families. I talked to wrong. I was right about Duke Lacrosse. I went to meet with those families. I talked to them. I knew exculpatory evidence was coming out. UVA, I was right on that. Everybody else was wrong. Ferguson, Missouri. I had so many police contacts that were telling me, Sean, there are multiple African American eyewitnesses that will corroborate Darren Wilson's story

I got that right everybody else went with hands up. Don't shoot which is a crock of bullshit I try not to rush to judgment. I got Freddie Gray in Baltimore, right? I got George Zimmerman right because I went down and I also had a Law enforcement contact that told me now there's gonna be testimony from an eyewitness that says that George Zimmerman was on the ground and there was a ground impound and his head would be impounded into the cement. Then I can go to Russia collusion, the FISA warrants,

the impeachment one, impeachment two, all of these other witch hunts against Trump. How did I end up? Is it an accident that I end up on the right side of those stories? I'm not, Patrick, but David, I am not tooting my own horn. I am only saying what works for me is when everyone

goes deep and they're just rushing in, I tend to just do this and pull back. That's what I'm doing here. Now, I have a history, I know Pam Bondi for 30 years. I've known damn Bongino forever I mean we have a good relationship. I know cash, but tell have known him forever so Maybe did they? They they they thought there was information in there

Yeah, my understanding is is that the files had names of victims My understanding is the tapes were taken from Epstein's and again these are sources I haven't I'm not definitively saying it but the tapes were you know kiddie porn are they going to release kiddie porn are they going to release the names of victims now what they are trying to do which I think is very smart and I'd like to see it you believe you believe what I'm not doing right now I'm in the point where I've not rushed the judgment, I'm not making a decision.

I'm giving you the honest answer. You believe that. So okay, so maybe from my stand, you have to realize this is so tough because three times I've voted for this guy, I'm speaking for myself, right? 16, 20, and 24. When you come out and Bondi tells media,

James O'Keefe's group when they're coming and recording, oh, there's terrible things in those tapes. Cash comes out, says things about them. Bongino comes out saying, I'm in a Fox room with another person that I can't say their name because Fox didn't allow me to give the name that the footage that they have goes back to Masada and it's all linked back to Masada with Epstein. By the way, how the hell did the Masada get pulled into this? It's that... How did Masada get pulled into Epstein? Yeah, I'm trying to

understand the connection of what because his father somehow might have been connected to You know the massage runs United States everyone knows that no he by the way he's been so joking Certain members of our audience believe that so what do you feel? Why do you feel that such a distraction that didn't want to take out Iran's nuclear facilities for the life of me? I cannot understand that for the life of me, I cannot understand that. For the life of me, there is a vein of, I would argue, virulence, anti-Semitism.

We see it in the halls of Congress, we see it on college campuses, but it's simple, basic, fundamental, common sense. What frustrates me about that issue is that if that's your reason for not wanting to take out their nuclear sites, you don't understand the Trump doctrine because in his first term he kicked the crap out of the ISIS caliphate, defeated them in record time, took out Baghdadian Associates, took out

Soleimani, dropped the mother of all bombs in Afghanistan and so the Trump doctrine is yeah yeah, sure, no forever wars, I'm with you. I don't want forever wars. We can't ever go back and do what we did in Iraq ever again with the advancement of military technology. We won't have to fight wars that way. Future wars will be fought in air-conditioned offices.

But I say all that, and it's like, did you not understand the Trump doctrine? Wait, let me go back to what you said. So you, 30 years Fox, you're not under the impression of any stories that Jeffrey Epstein and his brother Mark may be linked back to Mossad with Israel with the amount of- I have no evidence of that. So 32 times the Prime Minister of Israel visits- Oh, Ehud Barak.

Right. In his apartment and he's seen leaving with a mask covering his face. That's not a valid concern? Oh, no, it is a valid concern. Just because I say that I stand back and wait, I'm just telling you, I can't give you a definitive answer today. Now, do I want to get to the bottom of all of it? Yeah.

Yeah, but I do find people getting over their skis a little bit in their commentary. That's my humble opinion. Self-inflicted though. I think a part of this is self-inflicted. You never wanna over promise in order to deliver. To me, it would have stopped right there because if I run for office and I say,

here's the five things, this is what's important to me. And then all of a sudden guys on my team start making promise, oh, we're going to do this, and then they go on podcasts, and we're going to do it, and let me tell you, and we're going to do this. I'm like, hey guys, listen, who are you? When you say we, who is we? Are you representing me?

Did I tell you we're going to do that? We're not doing that. I'm going to let you know, take the lead. So I feel the way they got into this debacle is they did it to themselves. Now there's plenty of research, independent journalists that have done to find out stuff about Epstein that they're not too comfortable about. And there's plenty of stuff out there. I mean, I was watching his deposition this morning on, hey, have you ever gotten a felony

before? I have. What were your felonies for? One was for solicitation of prostitution and the other one was solicitation for minor by the way that that deal Never should have happened with that Palm Beach prosecutor that that was insane That was that was a sweetheart deal of all deals. Well, yeah, and so again Vinny, I'm sorry a part of that's we fighting I kind of like

To me a part of that sweet fighting I kind of like A part of that sweetheart deal is where people are going back and saying I met Pam Bondi Pam Bondi gives me the vibes of a very Character ethical type of a person. I didn't tell you I got nothing but positive vibes. She was very nice to my voice She was very respectful But to all of a sudden say that they have nothing and it's just child porn. That's confusing By the way, you know who has the most credibility on this story here? I'm gonna show you guys something that's even gonna spook you a little bit. Okay. Okay. Tell me who hates Trump the most The last 10 years since 2016. Can you tell me who?

That's a long list. No, but I want you to go who was close ally, who hates him the most. You're going to play Nancy Pelosi. No, I'm not going to play Nancy Pelosi. That's a good clip. I'm going to play Pelosi. I'm not going to play Pelosi. You're not going to be able to guess what I'm going to play. His old fixer, Michael Cohen.

Michael Cohen. Okay, Rob, play this clip. Watch this here. Okay? What can you speak to about your time with Donald Trump as it relates to Jeffrey Epstein, if at all so actually I I fell into Trump's orbit around 2005 but I became part of the Trump organization as the executive vice president and special counsel in 2007

From the time that I started to the time that I finished in 2018 I actually never heard him mention Jeffrey Epstein at all. I never saw Jeffrey Epstein in the office when I was one of the 10,000 hours in Trump's office doing work with him. I never heard Jeffrey Epstein on the phone or even call into the office. There was no relationship from the time that I started at the org to the time that I left. And so how do you then, when you kind of look at what is transpiring now and the way he's

handling it, what do you make of the way he's handling it? The reason why this scandal, if you will, this controversy, this individual has captivated so much attention and raised a lot of serious legitimate questions. Sure, because that's what they campaigned on. That's what he sold to his MAGA base. He was going to release the Epstein files. He was going to release the Martin Luther King files. He was going to release the John F. Kennedy files. He chose not to. It's a mistake. He should have just released the full file because by not doing that, all it

does is create these conspiracy theories. Oh, he must be guilty of something See, this is the part Michael Cohen Vinny like you tell me why Michael Cohen Who on any chance he's gotten to lie to destroy him? He's done it That this probably for as weird as it sound He has the most credibility on this topic the last 20 years. I know this sounds very weird. Because he's been around him, he has zero credibility.

But you know what I mean on credibility with this? But I understand what you're saying, he would be the last person you would expect. He would be the last person to defend. This is an easy slam dunk for you to say, well, there was that one time I was sitting next door and he picked up a call and he made some jokes about underage and I felt very uncomfortable. And I asked him, who were you talking to? He said, my boy, Jeffrey.

And I had to walk in because that was the one thing that drove, even Bill Gates' wife said, Melinda, hey, what made me most uncomfortable with Bill Gates was who? Was the relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. He was a porrent. So you need to tell me this guy who hates Trump that much is gonna defend him?

It's a little weird. But my question is this though, guys. So it's undeniable what he was doing. He was recording. It was a blackmail operation. He being Epstein. Epstein, when Alex Acosta, Sean said, he worked for intelligence.

Could have been Massad, could have been ours, could have been a group of people. Our thing is, Pan Bondi, Bongino, Patel, they were screaming from the rooftops. This is what, if I'm in, I'm not leading up to their assignments. Then once they're in, Sean, we feel like somebody told them, hey, shut up. Just like when he was arrested in Florida with that sweetheart deal you were talking about, Alex Acosta Whoever was in charge you gave him a 12 hour. All he had to do was be there for 12 hours So he slept at the prison get the door was open

He only had to sleep there one night who gives a convicted pedophile that type of access But then when you go back why is Epstein visiting the White House? 17 times and then Mark Middleton Sean who, who was his close aide and advisor, that guy signs him on seven times and then that guy suicides himself hanging from a tree with the extension cord, shotgun to the chest, no shotgun found. It's just all this stuff, all we want, Sean, as the supporters and I get it, Trump's not on it, put that aside. But the people that were on those tapes, Sean, those terabytes of information, we want, I know the real MAGA, we want accountability for those pieces of those demons

who destroyed these kids' lives, Sean, who these kids, by the way, I say this too, I talked to Tom about this the other day. What do you think they did with some of these girls or underage boys that were with these high-profile guys that saw their faces? You think they just let them go back into society? No, they're gone forever. What did they do with some of these girls or underage boys that were with these high-profile guys that saw their faces? You think they just let them go back into society? No, they're gone forever.

We've lost 300,000 kids at our border. Thank God Trump said that they found, what, 10,000? What about the 290,000 that are gone? Gone, and nobody cares about them, so we have to keep talking about it. I don't think Trump's implicated, but come on. I don't want to see any child porn. But what you guys are seeing at the FBI arrest those people arrest them you see them Why do you have cameras in every room whistleblowers said every room Sean everywhere you went you were on camera Who was he recording it for and where's the footage? I had one source. Tell me take it for what it's worth I'm not I'm again. I'm trying to piece this together as you are That there were none of those tapes existed. Those tapes you just referred to. Now, as it relates

to Acosta and his comment about the intelligence community, what intelligence community? We need more details. So to me, I have more questions than answers. I want the answers like you do. I don't think there's anything more repugnant, Bible even says as much than to harm a child. Matthew 8, chapter 8, verses 8. Bingo. Wow, I'm impressed. I learned from this guy over here.

There's nothing more offensive to me, and I don't think anything more offensive to God, if you believe in the Bible as I do. And I want the answers to the questions. Now, I'm just maybe a little bit more willing to give it more time. I want more information. I want it all revealed. Now, let's see, for example, Pam Bondi's trying to get the grand jury testimony. Dershowitz, who's a friend of mine, and man, he got caught up in this for a while, and he was so adamant, he was gonna sue everybody.

He's like, and Dershowitz, his entire career has represented controversial figures like OJ, and in the case of Epstein, I also know David Shone. He was friends with Epstein in the final years of his life. I interviewed him, asked what he knew about it, and again, I want the answers like everybody else does. Did you hear what Dershowitz had to say? I did hear what he said.

Dershowitz wrote an article, I think it was in the Wall Street Journal. He talked about the grand jury testimony being where the mother load would probably be. Yeah, I mean, whether you believe Dershowitz or not, that's on you, but I'll just sort of boil down his main three points. And you know, we live in a rush to judgment trial by media trial by social media society. So respect for you for waiting until actual evidence comes out versus rushing for judgment. Here's what Dershowitz had to say. Number one, there was no client list. The list that you speak of was the victims list.

People who list, list, list, list, they freak out. I have four sources, not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, we're winning championships here. Four that say the same thing. That's why I said everybody rushes in with their commentary and I'm like, I'm going to wait. He also said two other things. Number one, the tapes you speak of were public tapes.

Like we have video tapes here, all in value tainment everywhere you go. There's cameras all over here, but there's not cameras necessarily in PBD's office or PBD's bathroom. I don't know. This is what Dershowitz has to say. You sure about that? I don't know. I don't know. Six cameras in a bathroom. Yeah. Number three, and this is the one that's going to freak people out, that there was actually no actual ties to intelligence agencies, whether it's massage, whether it's CA. I don't know. This was his attorney. He understands

the law. You are making my point. It's like these are all unanswered questions. Now, if there is a valid criticism, like I do believe they had a pile of an Epstein file. I don't think they went through it. They just said they had it and probably that created a lot of hope for people and then that has now evolved into suspicion. Don't you think that this was Pam Bondi's job that she completely butchered? Hear me out. I think Cash Fretel is an honest guy. I think Dan Bongino has the highest credibility Yeah, I actually believe Trump on this one. I don't think JD Vance has any clue

It's going on in this he was that wasn't around a dirty of this Pam Bondi. She was a little known What attorney general in Florida? Epstein thing in okay. Yeah, I'm saying She kicked ass in Florida. Yes, I live in Florida. I've heard her name a bunch on a national level Nobody heard of Pam Bondi all of a sudden She's catapulted to Attorney General of the United States and she's an attractive woman hear me out She sees herself on TV national news for the first time of her life I don't think you're telling me that a star doesn't look at that. Oh my god

Here's you know who believes me Megan Kelly cuz she's exactly what she said your old friend Megan Kelly Look, there's Megan Kelly wrong I'm not gonna sit here and say anyone's right or wrong. I'm just saying I haven't came come to my conclusion I respect everyone's opinion, you know This is the success in media is not a zero-sum game my success My failure is not rooted in anyone else's success or failure if If they come to a conclusion based on their opinion, their gut, their instincts, or information they have that I don't have, I respect it.

I listen to it, I absorb it, take it in, but I have to get to the point, like I did in all of those cases I mentioned to you where I ended up being right. I spent three years with an ensemble cast to get to the bottom of Russia collusion And we were unpeeling the layers of the onion the lie look what it's now evolved into right It's it took three years of programming on radio and TV to get to that point

We were proven right the the corrupt legacy state-run legacy media mob they were wrong But we did it very, it happened slowly, it happened over time. We found out that Hillary Clinton bought and paid for a dirty Russian dossier. Yeah, it was used as the basis of four FISA warrants. Hillary Clinton got a pass when it came to top secret classified information.

You know, if I have any bit of concern over this is people are so focused on it, and they should be. I'm fine with that because I want to get the answers. I think we'll get a lot more if we get that grand jury testimony that will be up to a judge. But here's the problem. Sunday was the six-month mark of Trump's presidency and what you played earlier from me and what I'm saying about it is so transformational and consequential and he's taken on every big major issue in a way that no president that I can think of in a hundred years

is fundamentally shifting the country i would argue back to constitutional order and limited government greater freedom all of that's lost so i i would give you all of you i'll give you one thing to be thinking about your sports guy you you love you love throwing the football at the end of your show. Who was the team that almost had a perfect season and at the end of it

they lost because of a couple turnovers that they made, devastating. They could have gone undefeated the entire year. It would have been known as the greatest season any NFL team ever had. The Patriots, right? Against your Giants, baby. Against your Giants, right? Yeah. as the greatest season any NFL team ever had, the Patriots, right? Against your Giants, right? So what's the point? This is all I'm saying.

All I'm saying is when you have a vision that big and you're working your ass off the way that you are and you're trying to juggle all these different projects at the same time, you have to talk to your leadership team. No more turnovers moving forward. Not at this level. This could have been prevented. This was a massive fumble that could have been prevented by the team. Because to Trump's credit, when Trump did that interview with Rachel Campos Duffy, and

she asked, and she goes like this. So Mr. President, you know what I'm saying, she's like this. And she says, so are you going to release the John F. Kennedy? Yes. Are you going to release the Martin? Yes. 9-11? Yes. Not this one, Rob. Are you gonna release the Epstein? Yes. Ah, I don't know, because, so even then, Trump didn't give a definite answer.

No. He's thinking some people's names might be on there and they might not be... So to his credit, he's not ran on this. True. He's not ran on this. His team ran on this. Exactly. Great point. So this is the scene right here. His team ran on this. And Rob, I don't know if you're going to, okay, is it right off the bat she says that? Yeah, right off the bat. Okay, play from the beginning. Would you declassify the 9-11 files? Yeah. Would you declassify JFK files? Yeah. I did a lot of it. Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah. Would you declassify JFK files? Yeah. I did a lot of it.

Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah. Yeah, I would. I guess I would. I think that less so, because you don't know. You don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there, because there's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world.

You can pause it right there. So to me, I get it. That's revealing too, in my view. And when you're talking about, like for example, you call somebody a racist, you're basically saying they're evil to me. There are certain things that you accuse people of that it just, it will take them down hard.

If in the files they have, and this is, I think the point that Trump was making when he brought up, remember who put these files together? You know, four years, Biden Justice Department had all of it. Nobody even asked for them to release it. It was never an issue.

And you could say, okay, well, Trump kind of half said he would release it, but then said, maybe not because, so, because there might be innocent names in there. But then you look at the people that put it together, maybe when they got to the bottom of it, and we'll find out, I think, over time, maybe I'm just a little more patient than you're. But maybe there are innocent people,

maybe there are allegations in there. By the way, you're a pedophile Okay, you're on the list Now you have to defend yourself, but you're not a pedophile. What happens to that person's life? Falsely accused I've seen that a lot of my many times to a lot of guys I saw when I met with those kids from Duke lacrosse I actually drove out to their house and this is why I ended up being right and everybody else was wrong. There were nearly a hundred professors at Duke jumped on the bandway. They wanted these kids taken down. Those kids lives are never going to be the same. Richard Jules life was never the

same. Darren Wilson left the police department, his career was ruined. It's like we are too quick to do that. Now with all that said, there's no doubt in my mind that Epstein is a creep, a scumbag, a lowlife. Why is he though? Well I mean just what we know from the trial at the sweetheart deal that he got the first time. So what people want is when you when you study this guy's lifestyle and what he did and how he made his money

and Lex Wexner, a 77 million dollar most expensive private residence in Manhattan to him as a gift when he gets a hundred fifty eight million dollar consulting fee from Leon Black when he has an eight thousand square foot property in New Mexico That he was practicing eugenics and his DNA being transformed and passed on to different people when you look at them It's a lot of weird things with this guy so we can continue there But the last thing I'll wrap up on this by the one you're saying all that stuff I agree because Trevor Bow's career in baseball was destroyed. Pasadena court by Gro that lied and no one in the MLB wants to sign this guy and you could have gone a 250 million

dollar contract to 300 million dollar contract, made some real money, he lost a few hundred million dollars because of a lie. Because of a lie they destroyed this guy's potential on income. Now he still loves the game so much that he's playing for nothing because of the love of the game, but this guy's dream was to play baseball. It was entertaining to watch. So you're right, all that happens. I'll wrap up the last thing and we'll go to the next one. I want to go to the Russia side with you. Is there anything you think I'm doing wrong?

Anything that I'm saying... No, not at all. No, the only reason, you know, when I know, we've been podcasting for five years. We started this five years ago. My content was purely business. I'm a business guy. I'm a business guy that grew up in Iran, that came up here and made his money, went to the US Army, got into the stock market, became a stockbroker with Morgan Stanley Dean, built an insurance company, sold it.

But as a financial advisor, when you're in it for 25 years, what you learn to do is a needs analysis every day. What is a needs analysis? A needs analysis, Mr. and Mrs. Jones, what is your income? What are your expenses? How much money do you have in a CD? What do you have in a 401K? What do you have in a defined benefit?

What do you have in a 457? Do you have a 529 for your kids? How important is it for you to put your kids in a private school? How much money do you want to set aside for your kids to go to private school? Are you planning on paying for their school tuition or not? Are you planning on letting them go to community? Do you want to do a 50-50? Do you want to have some money for them to start a business?

Do you not want to pay anything for them? At what age do you want to retire? How much income do you want to retire with? When you're programmed to just ask questions and then you go into podcasting, your natural instinct is to constantly be asking questions because that's what you've been trained to do in financial services. Every question you guys are asking is the right question. And I think we need answers.

So to me, to think when you're saying about Mossad and CIA, guys, the movie Argo came out 30 years after because CIA has a certain number of 30 years to not release. And a KGB guy comes out and he writes a Book on what the KGB really did with the papers and who they controlled and who they planted different places for us to assume that We're gonna know right off the bat. Yeah, we're being a little bit naive to think that we're gonna know everything Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I was just gonna say well, I want to make one correction because we're talking about the Bible It's Matthew 8 chapter 18 verse 6 I said 8 and 6 number one But yeah guys if they are intelligence like think about Masad what they did with the pagers and our CIA

They're very good all of them Sean like making everybody guess and ask these questions That's that's that's their job But when we say rushing the judgment Epstein was a pedophile convicted pervert since when? It's 25 years later. Why is Ghislaine Maxwell in jail? There's no- For trafficking young women. Where are the victims? I don't believe that there's a list.

There's a name, Bill Clinton, all these names. No, no. What is she in jail for trafficking, Adam? They're saying that he didn't do anything. All this stuff is all bullshit. Why is she in jail? Nobody's saying that he didn't do anything. Why is she in jail for 20 years if there? Nobody is saying that he didn't do anything. Well why is she in jail for 20 years if there's no... Why don't you pull up what she was charged with and convicted of?

But here's my thing. This doesn't have to be a mystery. Where is the one client? What is what is Galen Maxwell in prison for and they ready for this? Where is the customer? That's like arresting Sean for being a freaking drug kingpin and none of his clients are behind jail. Don't bring Sean Hannigan into this. Sean sells weight. He sells cocaine. Sean sells cocaine, but You see how easy it is to make allegations?

Now he has to defend himself. Sean Hannity has to defend himself. That's your BS allegations. I want to move on to the next part. We've already talked about what Jelaine Mansfield's doing. Can I ask one more question before you go? Sure. Do we all kind of agree? Yes. That what?

That at the end of the day, they're unanswered questions. Maybe I'm just a little bit more willing to let this play out. Well, you're the very few that actually has patience and maybe not rush to judgment. But you know what taught me that? Because most people have already made up their mind. I'm telling you what taught me that.

When I talked to Richard Jewell, got one of the first interviews with him, he comes on and he says, you were the only one in the media that gave me the benefit of the doubt. That changed my life forever. And I learned, you know what, it's pretty powerful what I'm doing

in the sense that it can impact people's lives. That lesson has served me well. That long list I gave, it wasn't to brag or to be, it wasn't, I promise you it wasn't. It was just to explain my methods or the way I approach things. I mean, I'm listening to Mr. Financial Advisor over here and I'm like, holy shit, he's a genius.

I'm like, all right, I got 15 questions now about my financial future. Yeah, but I appreciate what you're saying. However, I wanna follow up on this. Okay, so you were at, you've been at Fox 30, okay? O'Reilly was there 20. I don't know how long he was there. I'll just say give or take 20, right?

Tucker was there for a number. Megyn Kelly was there for a number of years. From the outside watching now, Bill O'Reilly does a lot of stuff with News Nation, Cuomo, you know, we've had him on. He's on my radio show once a week. I actually love hearing what he has to say, because again, he's another one of these OGs.

When he talks, I'm kinda trying to hear to say, what's he saying, because he sometimes takes a different angle than everybody else. How are you processing what Tucker is doing? Because Tucker has taken certain positions when it comes down to Israel, when it comes down to Epstein, when it comes down to certain interviews he's done, when it comes down to what he feels is different. A lot of it may be seen as controversial, maybe to folks at Fox. How do you view the positions that Tucker has taken

the last couple years? You know, all of us are making a pretty good living because of the First Amendment and freedom of speech. I said earlier, broadcasting is not a zero-sum game. My success is not due to somebody else's failure or success. And it's based on what I do. But whether what you say I agree with or I disagree with, and I have heard things that all the people you mentioned

have said, and Bill O'Reilly's been on my radio show, and we'll disagree on a topic. But at the end of the day, I kinda, that is the biggest glass of water I've ever seen in my life. What the hell is that? I just wanna make sure we don't run out of water. They say there's a threat of- Here, if you need a little more,

help me bring some, what is, it's like this- The Stein. The Stein, exactly. Well, the goal is to finish this by the end of the party. So at the end of the day is, you know, let the people decide. And I respect the fact that we live in a great country where you're gonna give your opinion,

and then the public will judge you for it. The one thing that I think is critical for success is that you be genuine and sincere, and not manufactured or phony or fake and if you stay true to who you are I believe are you just put the co- he just put cocaine. I told you I told you so. This is yours. High quality. Which you sold to me. Sean Hannity's property in Columbia, which we created in Medellin. Did you see LJ, he was on Fox and Friends

the other morning, they were talking about Coca-Cola and pure cane sugar. I love Mexican Coke. Who said this? Lawrence Jones. Oh my God. I love Mexican Coke. And then Ainsley and Brian are looking at him

and he goes, no look I really do love Mexican There's a funny moment but back to your question on Tucker don't you respect Aren't we blessed when you think about it? We live in a country Where you can have any opinion I do and then you either build an audience based on whether or not enough people want to hear what you have to say. But some of the positions Tucker's taken would be a different kind of... I disagree with him.

Okay so... He's in it, for example, he interviewed some historian and making it and this has kind of gone a little viral. I don't care that he has a different view than me. I just don't care. I mean, he had a different view about Iran and the nuclear sites than I did. I don't care that he does. I have to be true to who I am. And he had a historian and there's this narrative that's been making the rounds that, you know, Winston

Churchill, blood, toil, tears, and sweat. What is our aim? Victory. I love Winston Churchill. That somehow, well, it's not the best thing that we won World War II. Now, my father spent four years in the Pacific, by the way, and wasn't the best life, and he grew up very, very poor. But to me, Winston Churchill was one of the

most heroic people in our time. It's just a disagreement you want to have a different opinion fine but the argument is well Western civilization has not thrived since then and that Europe has declined since then my answer to that would be Ronald Reagan who said, you know freedom is only one generation away from extinction and so yeah, Winston Churchill was the hero of World War two to me and I would argue with with the historian guess that he had but but guess what Patrick bed David You know what you live in a free country express your views if that's what you think express it what do you what do you think about what Tucker is doing these days this might be a

controversial opinion on Tucker but to me he's sort of masquerading and cosplaying as a populist when he's almost like the elite he's sort of basically saying I'm anti-establishment there's you know we say one of one one of one. He's one of one. Tom Brady is one of one. Michael Jordan is one of one. Tucker's also one of one because he's the only person you've been at Fox News 30 years that's had his own main show on cable. Fox, CNN, MSNBC. So it's almost like he's syndicating his views all over mainstream, but being like, oh, shucks, I'm just a little little huckleberry here in khakis and a bow tie chewing my dip. I don't know nothing about nothing. It's like, you know, the establishment better than anybody Tucker. And now you're like, oh, I'm anti establishment. I'm being counterculture. What are your thoughts on that? First of all, I'm not following that closely. I'm too wrapped up in my

own world, my own opinions, my own shows. My answer to you is I've never had a problem with any of the people that you mentioned. And you know, there used to be a time where at Fox, there was a lot of tension between hosts. For me, that's just evaporated. I wish everybody the best. If you listen to the people that you mentioned, I've heard every one of them say that they are happier than they've ever been doing what they're doing now. I'm happy doing what I'm doing now. They made their career choices, I made my career choices,

and I'm happy with mine, and I honestly, truly, sincerely wish everybody the best. I'm not in this intramural, you know, my life is dependent on what somebody else says, I don't care. Do you speak to Tucker at all or no? Do you guys have a relationship? I have occasionally, you know, yeah. Once I reached out to him when his father died,

you know, just to wish him prayers, and we had one little exchange over just a stupid issue, but it was very friendly. We never, we have over just a stupid issue, but it was very friendly. We never, we have never had a problem. What's up? Are you guys more friends or colleagues? You and Tucker. We're not friends in as much as like

I'm friends with Mark Levin. Thank me, God bless us. That's it, I'm done. So you're not laughing at my imitations. This is not good. I'm bombing. That was actually better than the previous one. Mark Levin was better than Churchill.

I didn't really try my trill. Every once in a while, Tom will do an impersonation and when he does, he gets it good about one out of 10 times. Who does? Tom over there, he does good impersonation. I do my best. Who's your best? Bill Clinton probably.

I wanna say to all the hot chicks here in the audience that if you wanna tour backstage, I'll be glad to give it to you. I want to say to all the hot chicks here in the audience that if you want to tour backstage I'll be glad to give it to you. I thank you all for misunderstood and all the prosecution against me. I just have three words to defend myself. That's my wife. I think he got you on that one Henry. Let me get to the next story.

He's a drug dealer, he's not a freaking. Relax buddy. I think get to the next story. What he's a drug dealer, he's not a freaking... Alright Vinnie, relax buddy. Let's get to the next story. I think I like my Winston Churchill. I liked it, it was good. It was the best of the three. Ludd, the toil, tears and sweat. Yeah, I like Levin more. I like Mark Levin more.

You want my real Mark Levin? Yeah, give it to me. Alright, here's Mark Levin. Imagine if Kamala Harris won the last election, right? Right. This would be the next episode of Life, Liberty, and Levin. Okay, this is an aneurysm coming, right? Pretty much. Yeah, it is.

You dumb bastards! You just ruined the country! The Constitution's to shit! This is... I cannot believe how stupid you all are! That's it. I'm done. Ha ha ha ha! Speaking of Tucker, did you hear about the offer that PBD made to Tucker? No, what'd you do? This was a few years ago.

This was a while back though. What was the offer? You got like a million podcasters underneath this umbrella, right? No, we made an offer a while back. But that was a four, three years, Tom, what was it, three years ago or two years ago? Two years ago.

When did it be, May 2022? Two weeks after he left. Two years. he left two years Was it two years or three? Remember he took a break then we found out it was over Made a hundred million dollar offer for five years. That was one year ago was this that can't be a way that was an update But you know looking back at it, I mean maybe you want to get Hannity's take on this. Are you glad that he didn't, that he said no? No, I think there's certain, there's two ways you have to look at talent and I look at it in two different ways. Okay, one of the ways you look at it is credibility and trust of what they say the market believes.

Two, their credit score. How often are they right? How often are they wrong? Three, the risks they're willing to take, a position that others are not willing to take. It's a very massive risk. He takes risks. Four, you know, the ability to handle yourself and be battle tested. Most guys cannot be battle tested. This thing sucks to be in the fire. This is why I think deep down inside, I called this three years ago, I think Tucker may want to run in 2028.

And I think Tucker's maybe positioned himself to do something in 2028. I don't know. I see you say Churchill, wasn't he a journalist before? Was he in that space before he went out there and ran? And Tucker's background's very interesting that maybe one day he runs. You know, I don't know. I say.

Not when they get a, not when he does that laugh on stage, it's over. Howard Dean had to, I think, end his campaign because he said, yeah! This guy went to. When did you see Tucker's last? This guy was Howard Dean's I Have a Scream speech. This guy went to Turning Point USA. This guy went to Turning Point USA, okay, and called out Israel and got a cheer.

At Turning Point USA. One, that's a risky position to take. Two, well not necessarily not these days, to go to Turning Point USA. Guys, don't be us. Half of Turning Point was excited when he said that. No, not necessarily not these days. To go to Turning Point and say, but all I'm saying- Guys, don't BS. Half of Turning Point was excited when he said that. No, not necessarily. No? No.

That's why they cheer. Adam, what I'm trying to tell you is, two years ago, that would have never happened. The climate has changed, and people are processing information in a different way. I'm not playing this. All I'm saying is the fact that the climate has changed, and he's taken some positions.

If it doesn't work out for him, it's a massive drop off. That's why there's the risk. And that's why it's risky to take some positions. Adam, I'm moving on, on a different story. So you can have that conversation. That's his way of saying shut up. Yeah, it's a nice way of saying. I'm used to all the different languages.

Okay, so let's go to the next. I thought it was the same thing to me. She goes, daddy, okay, all right, love you. Love you means goodbye, I'm hanging up now. PBD, love you, go on, sir. Okay, all right, love you. Love you means goodbye. I'm hanging up now. PBD love you. Go on, sir. Okay. All right. So let me go to the next story. The next story I want to go to is somebody that maybe indirectly announcing his 2028 presidency and campaign. And this is somebody

that you may be very supportive of, very excited about, Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden just did a show this last week. This tape is gold. Just play, just spend the rest of the podcast and play it on a loop. Just keep playing it. Rob, which one is this? This is which one? So I have four clips. I have Hunter Biden talking about illegal immigrants and who's going to clean your hotel room and wash your dishes. I also have where he explains whose cocaine was found in the White House. There's also a clip of Hunter Biden talking about the differences between crack and crack cocaine. Because it matters. We also have Joe Biden's poor debate performance due to sleeping pills. Can you go to the one that I put up on Twitter where he curses 15 times in a span of a

minute 10. I think that's this one George Clooney and Joel Tapper go for it go for it And everybody around him I don't have to be fucking nice number one I agree with Quentin Tarantino fucking George Clooney is not a fucking actor He is a fucking seven like I don't know what he is. He's a brand and by the way and God bless him You know what he's mostly brand and by the way, and God bless him, you know what? Supposedly treats his friends really well, you know what I mean buys them things and he's got a really great place in Lake Como And he's great friends with Barack Obama. Fuck you. What do you have to do with fucking anything? Why do I have to fucking listen to you? What right do you have to step on a man who's given 52 years of his fucking life to the service of this country and Decide that you George Clooney are gonna take out basically a full-page ad in the fucking New York Times to me and James Carville who hasn't run a race in 40 fucking years and David Axelrod who had one success in

his political life and that was Barack Obama and that was because of Barack Obama not because of fucking David Axelrod and David Plouffe and all of these guys in the Pod Save America guys who were junior fucking speech writers in, you know, on Barack Obama's Senate staff who've been dining out on the relationship with him for years making millions of dollars. The Anita Duns of the world who's made 40, 50 million dollars off the Democratic Party. They're all going to insert their judgment over a man who has figured out unlike anybody else how to get elected to the United States Senate over seven times How to pass more legislation than any president in history how to have a better midterm election than anybody in history This is a different clip than the one on Twitter

It's a different one, but Tom How do you process this like you know how do you process a guy that has been quiet all of a sudden comes out, drops F-bomb, as if like his dad finally gave him permission to be himself and he no longer has to worry about dad saying don't curse that much, don't do crack, don't do cocaine, be careful, don't sleep with your brother's wife. These are bad things to do son, these are not good things to do and he finally feels free. How do you process this yourself?

I don't know how anybody processes Hunter Biden, although I'd like to see the clip raise a drug sommelier. That's sort of interesting. I think that's sort of on brand and believable. No you know what's funny? Not under the influence of drugs, apparently, apparently sober. He comes out as like this angry independent. It's kind of shocking. It's like, wait a minute. This is such a, it's like your brain's trying to process seven non-secretaries in a row. It's like, wait a minute, do you really feel that way? Or are you just angry?

He sounds like a sobered up, angry, bitter guy that says, how dare do all these people undermine my dad? Because the whole point gets down to it, to 50 take one this many Senate elections and then I did this and passed as much legislation and got this through the midterm That's what I see I see an angry son who manages to sober up sit down with a podcaster out in the yard and

Just kind of cut loose. That's what I said. I wouldn't by the way. He's saying he's sober I would pay money and bet a lot of money that he doesn't look like he's on drugs He just looks like he drinks a lot of water with vitamin C of money that he definitely... He doesn't look like he's on drugs. He just looks like he drinks a lot of water with vitamin C. Yeah, exactly. Very, very healthy. I think allegedly sober.

But Sean, you know, when I see this... More sober than we've seen him in other clips. Let's just leave it there. Yeah, but you know what I see when I see this, Sean? I see a guy whose daddy pardoned him for crimes going back how long? How many years? You actually tweeted something like that, right? That's a guy that says, you know what?

I can do what I want. I can say what I want. And who's going to do it? The party's done. 2014, I think, is the want and who's gonna do it the party's done okay this is just an example of what the hell is going on and for all the kids out there this is what doing drugs and doing crack does to your freaking brain he looks very very rough but when you know you have a get out of jail free card he could say anything he could say literally I did this with my father I did all this with China I smoked the, all the footage of all the girls and all the stuff that I did,

weighing crack cocaine. I did it. And what are you gonna do about it? That's his attitude. How do you see him? You know, it's, he's a very angry man, I'll put it that way. He should be the happiest guy on earth, because I think he was in deep trouble. I spent a lot of time dealing with him. Zero experience. Hunter, that's my nickname for him. I mean, when he went on Good Morning America and they say, well, do you have any experience in energy? No.

Oil? No. Gas? No. Okay, you're getting paid millions and millions of dollars with no experience. Then the CEFC, the Chinese Energy Conglomerate, and the WhatsApp message. All of this money, James Comer says

it's 20 to 30 million dollars that they got in, no experience problem. They got away with it to me and from my liking, I'm not too happy about it. But preemptive pardon or not, I don't think it's going to matter. Here's the interesting part though, is that even though he got that pardon he can be brought in before the you know house oversight committee and he could be Put under oath. He can't plead the fifth because he got the pardon. So now we'd have to talk Oh wait, I'd like that you can't plead the fifth because you got the pardon. Correct. Is that the exchange you make? That's it. Or is that is that the law that he cannot go before that committee and plead the fifth why anybody that got the pardon I don't know why I mean James Comer confirmed it to me on

my show that's very interesting because the fifth says I am not compelled or required are you to incriminate myself by stating these things. And so because you can't, you don't have to in our justice system to be a witness against yourself. You don't have to. That's part of what the Fifth Amendment is. So the founding fathers envisioned, let's use a hypothetical example,

that the British would come over here and still be really pissed off, just hypothetically, and start putting you in leg irons and chains and squeezing your bones and breaking your fingers to get you to testify because the king was upset. And when they put all this together, that's where torture, unreasonable imprisonment and torture clause in our Constitution,

and that's where the fifth came from. It all came from sitting back and saying, we're not gonna live in a criminal justice system Where you are tortured to confess or you have to? You know testify against yourself. That's what the fifth is, but now you've been given a pardon, okay? We've been given a pardon so there is no self-incrimination here Pat none Who told you that door was unlocked and who told you that box of papers was there? You can't now take the fifth on that you say

Well those documents were You got to talk. Here's one. You want to throw another? Monkey in the wrench there or please Here's the interesting part if you read the New York Times piece on the Auto Pen issue and Basically we learned that Biden only set down criteria for commutation and pardons, but didn't make the specific decision. And then the decision to put it through the auto pen was not made by him, which if is

all true, and hopefully we'll get to the bottom of that too. Again, all these issues we talk about, we want answers tomorrow, but it'll take an investigation, but it might invalidate commutations and pardons. That would be interesting. That would be extremely interesting. So Rob, can you play the next clip, the one on Twitter that I had where he's talking about, if I was the president, there's a clip of,

he actually says, let's just say if I run in 20, three, two years, three years, I don't know, five years, that's the clip right there, Rob. Just play that clip. Yeah, well. And he's somehow convinced all of us that these people are the fucking criminals. White men in America are 45 more times

likely to commit a fucking violent crime than an immigrant. And the media says, well, you got David Axelrod, and you know, Romm fucking Emanuel, was so fucking smart Rahm Emanuel. And so we gotta understand that these people are really mad. This is gold, this is gold. We gotta appeal to these white voters. Rahm, the only people that fucking appeal

to those fucking white voters was Joe Biden, 81 years old, and he got 81 million votes. And he did because, not because he appeased their fucking Trumpian sense, but because he challenged it. And he said you can be an 81 year old Catholic from fucking Scranton that doesn't understand it but still has empathy for transgender people and immigrants. Then nobody said, oh Joe Biden's gonna turn us into a socialist state no matter how much they said it. But these guys think that we need to run away from all values in order for us to lead.

I say fuck you. How are we getting those people back from fucking El Salvador? Because I'll tell you what, if I became president in two years from now, or four years from now, or three years from now, I would pick up the phone and call the fucking president of El Salvador and say, you either fucking send them back or I'm going to fucking invade. Oh my God. It's a fucking ploy what they're doing. He's a fucking dictator's dog. Okay, we're down Let me tell you something about this mother effing guy this guy F and needs his own effing podcast immediately Oh, I can't look away. This is a train wreck

Wrapped in a mystery wrapped in a riddle wrapped in a crackhead and we're gonna need a little bit more of this Hannity wrapped in a mystery, wrapped in a riddle, wrapped in a crack head. And we're going to need a little bit more of this Hannity. What I also am reading from this situation right here is he's clinging and defending his father's legacy. It's very clear here when he says Rahm Emanuel, where it says George Clooney, where he says fucking David Axelrod, this piece of shit. Biden didn't want to leave. And we all think that it's Joe Biden who's basically saying, no, no honey you did great don't you think Hunter would have been like you fucking get in there Joe Biden and keep killing for this country and fuck like he's angry here clearly by the way and they took the rug out of

his family what about the bullshit over ambient yeah my father took an ambient now it just so happens before the debate Is this it Rob this was just pure gold go ahead Rob It's all I know exactly what happened in that debate. He flew around the world basically The mileage that he could have flown around the world three times. Yeah, he's 81 years old He's tired as shit. They give him Ambien to be able to sleep. He gets up on the stage and he looks like he's a deer in the headlights and it feeds into every fucking story that anybody wants to tell.

And Jake Tapper with literally how many anonymous sources. If this was a conspiracy, Andrew, you know this. Somehow the entirety of a White House in which you literally living on top of each other has kept their mouth shut about, you know, like what and what's the conspiracy? Yeah. Did Joe Biden got old? Yeah, he got old. He got old before our eyes. But and by the way, you know why he's full of it? Do you remember before the debate, there was a one week vacation, Biden was literally laying on the beach. He wasn't taking an ambient. He was rested exactly He was rested and I will not sit here and have you slander

Hunter biden, he would never tell a lie in his life. Never. He's the truth. He's a truth-teller Have you ever interviewed hunter biden? No, but I offered him last night an hour on tv and three hours on radio. I i'd give him 10 Of course you go home hour on TV and three hours on radio I'd give him ten. I could just play that for the next week. I think it'll ring. You could take the summer off and just run clips. You know what infuriates me though on a serious note about this is the most preventable national security disaster happened because of his father and he's talking about all these people that do all these work for all these Americans Okay for people that do have money and I spent a the early part of my adult life with no money I live in paycheck to paycheck and during that time of my life

I was cutting my own lawn washing my own dishes cleaning my own clothes and I would argue That's what most of the country does. So this idea that, oh, we're taking away jobs, what the left never does on the issue of immigration, which infuriates me, the most preventable national security disaster ever. We have known terrorists, assassination squads in the country. We got murderers, rapists, other violent criminals, cartel members, gang members. How come they never talk about that on the left? How come they never talk about, you know, Lake and Riley?

You don't have a heart, a conscience, or a soul, in my view. If you're at a joint session speech of a president and Democrats can't stand for the family of Lake and Riley or Jocelyn Nungaryary i interviewed jocelyn on gary's mother i know rachel moren's uh... uh... mother uh... mother of five but you think of all of these people they never

talk about it ever twelve twenty million we don't actually know the real number all i know is they did it they lied about it just like they lied about his cognitive state like they lied about the economy, you know, you go back Yeah, okay. I want to have these I want to talk about Epstein. I want to talk about all these other issues

But man what what's happened in six months as of Sunday? Compared to where we were a year ago and it was about six It was about a year ago when Trump you know nearly got assassinated came within a millimeter losing his life what a difference six months makes what a difference a year makes so it's infuriating that that part does not get taught they want to dress it because it'll ruin the narrative why would you mess up my opinions with facts sir oh yeah why would you do something that's it was in the state of the Union, Sean?

It was the same one where, you know, Lincoln or Riley's family and all them. And then the real testament, besides that, which I've been speaking about that forever, DJ Daniel, the little black kid, 13-year-old black kid that had cancer, not six times. Not one of them could stand for this. I was, I'm bawling, and they're just sitting there like this,

not clapping for that kid. You don't even have to stand just clap clap for the kid How how cool is that when Sean Curran get made him a secret service agent? Oh my god, that's his dream Oh my god, I don't know the sad part of this up to that point a to be cancer apparently he had a recurrence He has another one right for this. Yeah. Wow. Yes cancer again. Okay, I want to go to the next story So Tulsi Gabbard calls for Obama to be prosecuted over 2016 election claims. This is DNI Obviously we know Tulsi and what she's done Here's what she has to say on Fox go ahead Rob play the clip

This over a hundred documents that you're referencing that I released declassified and released Spells out in great detail exactly what happens when you have some of the most powerful people in our country directly leading at the helm, President Obama and his senior most national security cabinet, James Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper and Susan Rice and others, essentially making a very intentional decision to create this manufactured politicized piece of intelligence with the objective of subverting the will of the American people who in November of 2016 delivered a historic victory to President Trump, defeating Hillary Clinton. And President Obama and his team, their goal was to essentially not accept the decision of the American people

and to use this manufactured, politicized intelligence as a means to enact what would become essentially a years-long coup against President Trump. You have gone into great detail over these years of what the effects of this document and this decision have resulted in. Obviously, a years-long Mueller investigation that cost taxpayers almost $40 million to congressional impeachments, endless smears and attacks against not only President Trump, but his family. He had senior members of his team who were investigated, some arrested and jailed. We had heightened. So Sean, what is new about this that we don't already know? What's the big deal about this?

Okay, so everybody wants documents that were, you know, deeply buried and hidden. Here you got it. And if you do a deep dive into it, and I have, and I'm very familiar with the issue because that goes to the Russia Russia Russia hoax, it goes to the double standard when it comes to top secret classified documents, it goes to Hillary Clinton's bought and paid for dirty Russian disinformation dossier which they knew was phony, Comey signed three of the four FISA warrants, the bulk of information came from that.

So what these documents show, and I think the most intriguing thing and what Tulsi was communicating to me in that interview is that rank and file career intelligence people made assessments about 2016 and Russia's involvement in the election and whether they tried to influence it, their conclusion was no. And it was clear cut, specific quotes you can pull out,

you can extrapolate out and you'll find it. And then as it made its way up the chain, and we talk a lot about a deep state, as we make our way to Clapper and to Brennan and to others, Comey, they actually took what documents have said one thing, they polluted it, they corrupted it, they turned it on its head to come up with this whole phony Russia collusion narrative, right? Now we know that in December of 2016,

that they had already determined that the Hillary Clinton dossier was no good. They got rid of Christopher Steele, pushed him out, although they kind of kept him in in some ways. But even as early as August of 2016, Bruce Ohr, interestingly enough, because his wife Nellie, right, was part of was part of this, said, don't use this information because it's political in nature.

So where this is headed towards, and we got information last week, it does get a little deep in the weeds, but where I think this is headed is you have this grand conspiracy investigation that Cash Patel announced that he was getting him all done What does that mean? Okay, so We did they

purposefully knowingly use a Russian dirty dossier to Ruin the life of one guy named Carter Page But also backed up door spy on candidate Trump, later transition team Trump, later President Trump. That would gone on for a year. Comey already knew, Mr. Hire Honor himself,

Comey already knew that he shouldn't be using it, but he signed three of the four FISA warrants, okay, because you have to renew it every three months. Then it's the issue of what he said in July of 2016, no reasonable prosecutor will prosecute. Then you have Joe Biden later in 2020. And then that issue comes up. He has four locations, top secret classified information, but only Mar-a-Lago gets rated. So in 2016, you're looking at whether they specifically used phony information as a means of creating a narrative to hurt Donald Trump, also favoring Hillary Clinton on information that probably would have gotten Donald Trump indicted, and then what they did with that information,

how they corrupted it. And then you could take it after Trump wins in 16 then there's this meeting in January early January of 2017 before Donald Trump becomes president and in that meeting is Comey and Brennan I believe Clapper Joe Biden and Barack Obama Susan Rice in the final minutes as the national security advisor at the time in the final minutes before Donald Trump is about to be sworn in she writes a memo about a meeting weeks earlier and she says Barack Obama said do everything by the book Comey said do everything by the book. It was obviously to me a CYA memo. That's right

Okay, so that's the grand conspiracy. Now, all right, now move to 2020. So they knew, everybody knew in March of 2020 that the Hunter Biden laptop was very real. They had corroborated its authenticity. This is the timeline. Now, interestingly, through the summer of 2020, they were meeting weekly with every

big tech company, and I would argue pre-bunking, they were telling them, be on the lookout for Russian disinformation. It may be about Hunter, it may be about Burisma, it might be about Joe Biden. And so that meeting weekly with all of these companies, Twitter and Facebook at the time, now Meta, and they're meeting all these big tech companies. But they knew also that Rudy Giuliani's attorney, Bob Costello, had a copy of the laptop. He had gotten a copy, they knew he had a copy,

they had validated its authenticity in March of 2020. Again, they're pre-bunking it all throughout the summer. Boom, October, New York Post drops the story. It came from Bob Costello, Rudy's attorney. They knew it was gonna happen. Here's the most interesting part to me, and that is that I know for a fact, Mark Zuckerberg, I know for a fact, Jack Dorsey,

at the time it was running Twitter, they called the FBI and they were asking, is this what you were warning us about or was it true? They knew the answer, they knew it was authentic, they knew it was very real, and they just flat out wouldn't tell them. Then in comes before a debate with Donald Trump, Joe Biden needs a talking point. This is huge news laptop from

hell. And then in comes, you know, the 51 former Intel officials, and they just know nothing, absolutely nothing about that laptop. They didn't examine the laptop. And oh, and they all say the same thing, by the way, organized by Wink and Tony Blinken. So Blinken then becomes secretary of state. This is the deep state stuff that people don't think is real. It is so real.

And they organize them, not one person examines the laptop. Now, a story that would have crushed Joe Biden in 2020. If they validated the FBI did its job, they had already successfully pre-bunked it, but when it came out, if they would have said, yeah, we have, you know, it's authentic, we have, we authenticated it back in March of 2020. So the grand conspiracy is what they did in 16, what they did in 20, and what they did in 2024 in terms of all of the lawfare and weaponization against Donald Trump. Look, take the case of Alvin Bragg.

If you have a legal non-disclosure agreement, I know you have many. I'm kidding. But you take a legal, every, I guarantee you the DA's office in Manhattan probably has more than we could ever count, right? Okay. Very common companies, common practice, legal NDA, put together by a lawyer, labeled a legal expense, becomes a novel legal theory which results in, even though the statute of limitations had passed, 34 counts against Donald Trump, federal counts.

Okay, never should have happened, never. So what cash is doing, you're looking at 2016, 2020, 2024. Now in a lot of these cases, the statute of limitations have passed. You listen to the legal experts, Greg Jarrett, other people that will tell you that because it's a grand conspiracy Statutory limitations don't apply and if they don't apply

It's going to be whether or not these people were at the highest level of government knowing all of the secrets purposely manipulated The American people to get an electoral outcome that they wanted. That's where the investigation is going. Will anything happen to Obama? Don't know, I have no idea. I do, listen, Susan Rice's memo is pretty revealing. Barack Obama said, do everything by the book. You're on your way out the door, you got a minute and a half to do it,

to get out the door before Trump is now president and you're done. Why would you do it when that meeting took place weeks ago? Only reason I can think of is you wanna cover your ass. And it never made sense at the time. I reported it at the time. And I thought it was a bizarre thing.

Now, some people might say, if I didn't spend three long years on Russia Russia, if I didn't spend so much time on the dirty dossier, if I didn't spend so long years on Russia Russia, if I didn't spend so much time on the dirty dossier, if I didn't spend so much time, you know, doing deep dives into the FISA applications, Hunter Biden's laptop, if, you know, all the weaponization that took place against Trump. Listen, this is the amazing story of Trump,

and then I'll shut up, I feel like I'm talking too much. The amazing thing is, as we were heading into this election, you had a guy, nearly lost his life, put everything he had on the line, and it was either gonna be the White House, or it was gonna be the big house. No option. Those were his choices.

And he decided to quote, fight, fight, fight. He did. The American people, and this is why I say legacy media, this is great for you guys. This is great for new media. This is great for anybody that tells their audience truth. This is great for people, you know, the criteria that you laid out for successful people

in media, which I thought mostly was pretty dead on, is that for those people that do news, information, opinion, tell the truth, get it right, take chances, are courageous, all those adjectives you used, those are things that will lead to success. The reason I say that the, I said in 2007, journalism's dead.

I said after this election, the legacy media, they are dead, it's gone. They're never coming back. I'll give you an example. I'm on for two hours the night of the attack on the nuclear facilities in Iran. We beat ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNC and and fake new CNN combined I was on two hours that night combined we beat them all smoked them Wow and and on

a regular basis Fox News primetime my biggest challenge at the nine o'clock hours my audience also like sports don't watch sports if I'm on you can DVR the rest of the game although I love my Florida Panthers I'm a big Florida Panthers we want to go on the games all right well you're gonna go on me cuz I have seasons tickets at the Emmeron Arena oh Felix, is a sponsor. You'll see finally, shout out to those guys, great family, so we went to the game and we had a chance, a bunch of people were there.

Vince Vaughn, we saw Gretzky. Oh, we got the food, we saw Gretzky. Kids went downstairs and we saw the players. Vince Vaughn, hello. Right there, Vince Vaughn comes up. It was just a great time. Can I say something? Yeah, go to Felix.

No, you have four tickets, yours. Look forward to it. Forget about Rob, he's not with us, don't worry about that guy. And then, can Tom, I know Tom. He's working his tail off of us. Rob doesn't. When he started, he had a full head of hair like you.

It is, that was a head. And now he wears pants to work too. Yeah, finally. But Sean, so with everything being said, and I respect, because Sean, you've been right about it it the whole time the whole Russia collusion that this whole thing But it's when it comes down to and Pat asked a great question What's going to happen the accountability because there's a reason trust in the government is that an all-time law and you nailed it Here's the thing about the Tulsi thing Sean

We all knew like this isn't new news. Some people like it's a distraction to get away from the... No, it's not. But here's my thing, Sean, what I'm basically trying to say is, where's the accountability? We know Comey's dirty, you know Brennan's dirty, all right? Hillary got caught, when she got caught with Russia collusion, what was it? She got a slap on the wrist, $8,000 fine, which is to me, it's guilt, you did it. The DNC had to pay $100 and I believe $8,000 fine which is to me it's guilt you did it the DNC had to pay a hundred and I believe $5,000 but if Tulsi if what Tulsi is saying true

Sean they weaponized federal agencies to spy on an undermine a duly elected president okay that's a direct attack on the republic and you know the Democrats always say you know they point the finger when it's actually them okay and if you could do that and walk free and I get get it, I get the, we gotta wait, and I love that you're patient, I'm gonna be honest, patience isn't one of my virtues from the movie Demolition Man, Wesley Snipes. It really isn't.

We want something, we want something. I've- Noted Vinny, noted. Sean, and here's the thing when it comes to- But one of the, maybe to give you some hope, and I'm not gonna get into this game of over-promising under-delivering, maybe something that will give you hope is a lot of this is already documented. And having

that documentation, I would imagine they could hopefully piece this together in short order. Now you've got to also provide due process. That's a complicated issue. That takes time. And even with all of that, look, we did the Russia hoax for three years. It was an ensemble cast. It was me, John Solomon, Greg Jarrett, Sarah Carter, Catherine Herridge at the time was at Fox. And honestly, and there were maybe six or seven sources we had that were dead on accurate,

that were giving us information that nobody else had. We nailed every aspect of it. I'm very proud of that work. dead-on accurate that were giving us information that nobody else had. We nailed every aspect of it. I'm very proud of that work. That was, you know, really hard investigative work and that kind of goes to my theme of, you know, when we were talking about Epstein earlier, I take my time. Everyone sort of ahhh, they jump in. It's this, it's the Masada, it's the cover-up, cover-up, cover-up. I'm just like, I want to wait a second guys. I just pull back naturally For me, it's worked

Some people in my audience get mad They want me to go a little deeper a little quicker a little faster if I know I'll tell you I'm not gonna hide it I do think that that story is not done This to answer your question, I have the same impatience you do, because I've covered this for so long. I just don't know how long it's gonna take to get to where we wanna be and where it should be.

To me, the evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible. And my point is, will it happen in this four years? In this four years, because who knows, Sean, who's gonna? Exactly, so we're gonna have to give them four years, because this four years because who knows, Sean, who's exactly so we're going to have to give them four years because like you said, just watching. Yeah, exactly. Just watching the, I was that guy, Sean, when you guys were reporting it. I was watching those hearings. I watched every time Peter Struck was talking up and getting grilled about Lisa Page and

the text messages saying, insurance policy, is he going to win? Hell no. I'm going to stop it. Andy McCabe, I watched hours and hours of just lying and getting caught and the bias and nothing happened to these people. They settled with Peter Strzok and they gave him a couple million dollars because of the stress

or whatever that they put them through and it's like, they got four years, Sean. Think of this though, there is an upside to this is with everything they threw at this guy, all of this, every allegation, Alvin Bragg, Letitia James, weaponization, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51, 51 little more patient, I'm impatient like you are, if you're a little more, the American people saw through it. They heard it 24-7. Fake news CNN, MSDNC, ABC, NBC, CBS, New York Times, Washington Post, all over the place. And they rejected it. You know who they listened to guys like you and you and all everybody

I mean you guys are number one so they they the information got out people now are Selective and who they're going to watch you mentioned a lot of prominent names people that I have work with you know What you earn your credibility every day, and and that's why I went through this list again It was not to brag, but I've been right a lot because I really care to be right and I know you guys care at this table it's obvious you guys care at this table I want to say two things Sean first of all I want to say thank you I am the parent of my wife beautiful wife and we have two daughters you really outkicked you coverage yes I did

Thank God I do think I don't even know his wife. I'm just saying That's your assumption was correct and for the first time in your life you rushed your judgment you're correct What you didn't lay back and wait for the facts Well, I want to thank you for something because one of Yeah, I have a daughter. That's a Gonna be a sophomore in two weeks at Rice University and one of the things I sat down talked her about and we went in detail and I gave her this case study Which was Duke lacrosse and I said, let me tell you Bailey says first of all The boys at the party made a terrible judgment decision to hire that kind of entertainment and they put

Themselves in what I call the hammer position you are now a nail and the hammer of everything around you can come down It was not a good decision But look there's one voice and if you Wikipedia of it it was your voice Sean I say look how everybody said here's what's going On there was a bunch of liberal professors and liberal administrators that actually going on. There was a bunch of liberal professors and liberal administrators that actually hated the students that were on their campus that were predominantly white and fairly wealthy. The faculty at Duke has an adversarial opinion and relationship with the students of Duke because of where the students come from. There was a built-in bias, so here comes the hammer. And Mike Nifong was an opportunist who eventually was disbarred and went to jail as he should and the only reason

He did because there is a voice and so the lessons that I tell him it says listen You may need to be the voice number one But number two be careful about the positions you put yourself in because in this life There are groups out there that want to make you their nail And so I thank you for this because it's part of a case study about growing up and being aware of what's around you and things. And I thank you for it. The second thing is what's gone on, Vinny, you know, the Democrats often, it's such a playbook accused the other side of what you're already doing. Trump's not going to accept the results

of the election. What the hell do we think was going on in 2016? Obama wasn't accepting the results of the election. And now Tulsi Gabbard has given America a diagram that a sixth grader can understand. Oh, this, this, I thank them for that diagram. Here's what happened. I hope it's in the front of classes and schools that are saying, look, here's what really happened. A, B, C, D, E, F, G. This is what happened. of classes and schools that are saying look here's what really happened a b c d e f g

this is what happened hoax and you were out there on it because and I think there's redemption in that diagram and I also think there's opportunity in that diagram because I think that diagram can be the source of okay now we know but guess what it hasn't been 50 years since the Kennedy assassination this is only 2016 we're going to go look into this one all of LBJ's cronies aren't dead all Sam G Akana's cronies aren't dead all of Alan Dulles's cronies aren't dead. That's a JFK files We're just finding out for history that there is a group of people that got really pissed off and off the president this one people still alive and we have a diagram of everything that happened here and the irony of it is There was a time when Hillary was really pissed off at James Comey for saying things about an email server

But she claimed impacted little percents of the electorate right before the election They were eggs, you know a bleach pit was beforehand. Nobody did nobody knew. All right, so think of this that is 2016 yes beforehand. Nobody did. Nobody knew. All right. So think of this. That is 2016. Yes. 2020. You pre bunk the very real Hunter Biden laptop. My view, you don't pre bunk it. You confirm its authenticity. Different election result. Anyone disagree? No. 2024. Nothing but lawfare. They thought they'd crush Trump in Trump by piling on charges. The beauty of this grand conspiracy investigation is it will start with Russia, all the things you're saying,

it'll go through the 51 former intel officials in 2020, then it's gonna make its way right here in the free state of Florida, right to Jack Smith's front door. Where's it gonna end? I don't, again, I can't rush the judgment. I mean, everything that I know that you said is true. And these people are bad people. And they, in my view, a lot of them abuse their power.

They did it to impact elections in ways that it never should have happened. I never believed growing up this would ever happen in our country. But let it play out. It's not going to happen overnight. It's just frustrating. I want to go to another story. The fact that she's ahead of it right now and talking about it, bringing attention back

to it is very important because to us, you know, what a big community wants accountability. A lot of guys like him and others, smart guys, fell for Russiagate. A lot of people fell for it. They're like, oh yeah, let me tell you, Trump is this, Trump is that. It worked, it was so effective. It got me, Sean.

I tried to avoid it, it got me. Explain, what do you mean? Well, I was a Clinton Democrat, or a JFK Democrat. My father was a big JFK guy, and I just grew up as a Democrat. The first time that I voted was in 2000. I voted for Al Gore. I was a RFK, JFK liberal, which at this point would just be a Republican. And over the last five years I've seen, Oh my God, they've been lying to me the whole freaking time. The whole time. You know, I thought I used to look at you guys and say, you know, fair and balanced. Oh, okay. Fox news. Yeah. Most watched, most trusted that whatever it is now. And I believed what the MSDNC was doing. I believe CNN. I mean, Ted Turner was a

legend. I mean, far flung. What the hell CNN is now. I like free Zocario, but I'm like Pat jokes that I'm like the most MAGA guy ever. The reason that that's sort of true is because I'm so disgusted. You should be what the democratic party and what the mainstream media has done to America. And it's like, I'm living to tell the story. And now I'm like, they're lying. Everybody don't believe these scumbags because they got me. And I used to watch people like morning Joe and I was like, this guy's a Republican. He's Mika Brzezinski is, you know, a little, a little, a little two step over here. You son of a bitch. But that's the reality of

here is that like, there's a lot of Americans who look at Fox and would look at you would look at O'Reilly look at me on these guys. They're just they're just covering up. But it's really like Tom said, the other side that accuses you of doing the same thing. They're the ones that's doing it. What motivates you to do this great podcast every week? What motivates you guys to do this? I come for the comments mostly the comments.

Words of Russell and pa. We are equal time. Sean Hannity would be nothing without me. How's that one? Oh really? Is that what he said? No, career nobody used to say I am equal time I am Talon on loan from God You guys don't like my impressions. I said I'm done. I'm gonna retire listen Hannity Here's the thing I will tell you I am interested. I feel this is a moment in history where really emerging voices, we're all spokes in a wheel. This is why, you know, you're asking me about other hosts and I'm like, I wish them well. I have no ill will towards anybody. And whether they're right or wrong doesn't matter because the end of the day what I learned in

2024 is the American people will sift through it. They're hip to the fact that these other people lie Distort manipulate they're full of crap. They know that they hate Trump and they don't believe them. They're dead You should you know, which we haven't talked about Colbert. I mean, I've watched this decline the most fascinating thing is you know in TV you get minute by minute ratings. You can look at your show and see what people don't like and you can make adjustments. You can't. I've been watching him and Kimmel and Fallon and it's just getting faster and faster. Embarrassing, embarrassing what happened to this guy. I don't know what your numbers are.

I guarantee you have more viewers and listeners on your podcast than that idiot has. And the worst part is he's not funny. Thank you. No, he's not funny in my eyes. By the way, he was number one for seven years straight. Wow. Seven years straight ahead of family and Kimmel and this is all This is this guy's getting far. What's this Rob that you have from the different evolutions of?

Yeah, here's a montage of Stephen Colbert over the years in regards to Trump Oh, he's a school for trotting is sworn in as president of the United States. I know I Know I know listen listen. we're just as confused as you are Joe Biden did it. I sat down. And just started crying with relief and every said you never have to talk about him again. And then I cried with joy.

After a bizarre and vicious campaign fueled by a desperate need not to go to jail, Donald Trump has won the 2024 election. Next year will be our last season. The network will be ending the Late Show in May. After I shredded money like the federal government. 40 million a year the show was losing. Exactly.

So here's my question to Sean. Sean, you're losing that much money what keeps it going? We'll get to the WNBA if we get there but if you're hemorrhaging that much money is it is it worth? Because he's just, he's a political activist he's not a comedian. Have you ever heard of somebody go let's go watch Stephen Colbert do stand-up? Never. He's not funny. Well you just said it but before that never. He just works for them. Well yeah exactly I do stand-up comedy that, never. He just works for them. We do stand up. Yeah, exactly. I do stand up comedy.

I've never seen this guy. That to me is 15 writers writing your freaking monologue. You're reading it off a freaking teleprompter. He's not funny at all, but is it worth losing 40 million to donors to just have you go up there and just bash Trump? No. That's what I'm saying. And it took this long, it took this long for them to say,

okay, enough is enough. By the way, here's my prediction saying and it's this long it took this long for them to say okay enough is enough by the way lose another 40 million my prediction Kimmel's next and Fallon Fallon after there well they already got cut back to four days a week look I Completely understand that I have an obligation My radio stations and to my audience and to Fox I've got to deliver and the only way you deliver you described all the characteristics that will make you successful earlier and that is you work hard you do you do your homework you care

about what you're saying you're authentic you take chances you do all the every adjective you use that thought was dead on let me ask you do we have one last story because that's your helicopter out there. It's 1102. What time do you got to run to the show? No, I do. They can wait. Okay. I got one more story. I want to do is a new, some story.

How do you know that's a helicopter? You didn't feel that? You didn't hear that? We can tell what's a plane and what's a chopper. We had this 11 acres. 1987. I'm not hearing that well. He finally found you. Rob, if you can pull up the,

Rob, if you can pull up the new, some story. Okay. Oh my buddy, Gav. Exactly, that's what I wanna go to. So California tied for the highest unemployment rate in the country, okay? So while he is on a daily, I've not seen him attack Trump, DeSantis, anybody on the Republican side,

the way he's been attacking the last couple weeks. Very aggressive the way he's been doing it. He called Trump a son of a bitch. He called Trump a son of a bitch on Sean Ryan. Yes he did. Making it in the Bay is harder than ever. The latest job number came out. California's now tied with Nevada

as the highest unemployment rate in a country at 5.4%, while the national average is 4.1%. Rob, if you have the clip, is this it? Go ahead and play this clip. Go ahead and play this clip. California is now tied with Nevada for the highest unemployment rate in the country. The state's unemployment rate went up slightly over the past month to 5.4 percent, but that is still above the national average. You're seeing it right here at 4.1 percent. Okay, so with the comments he's making on Sean Ryan, President Trump, son of a bitch,

all this other stuff he's doing, calling out Florida, calling out Florida's number one for this. Rob, if you want to go on Twitter, the one tweet that I put, yeah, if you can go to the one that I put up, Rob, where he reacts to DeSantis. He's trying to call out DeSantis right there. Zooming a little bit on his tweet and then, yeah, so he says Florida at the bottom, I'm gonna read his first. Florida, 51 in mental health care, number one in home insurance costs, number one in elder fraud, alright, and then go above it.

California, number one in taxes, number one in homelessness, number one in outbound migration, number one in gas prices, but he's taking the focus off of California and Florida. Well, now you could add to your list, number one in the highest, but he's taking the focus out of California and Florida. Well now you could add to your list, number one in the highest unemployment rate in the country. That's right, and that was a day before that announcement was made. Did you watch when I had the Santa's debate? Of course, of course.

Okay, so all I did in that debate was put up, here's schools number one in Florida, here's schools in California, at the bottom, right? Here's crime here, crime here. And I was very meticulous in my research. If I got one thing wrong, I was gonna get the crap kicked out of me. I kept putting it up.

Taxes, taxes, crime, quality of life, all of this homelessness, put it all up there. They were pissed at the end of- Who's they? His whole team. I can imagine. Who was faxed? News Heaven? Oh yeah, behind the scenes they were furious. pissed at the end of who's that a his whole team Haven oh yeah behind the scenes they were furious, so he got destroyed I don't know if he got destroyed though guys. I mean you remember we watched this and the way you know His ability to slick in

Okay, but the numbers speak for itself. Yeah, you think about this I Think he does want to run, that's my guess. Look, he can be very, very charming in person. If he was in this room, he would schmooze you. Part of you would say, reluctantly, you would even like him. However, the numbers are going to dictate. His policies will be what is his demise. His record will be his demise. He has to defend, you know, being a sanctuary state, sanctuary city, how

many, what, who are the names of the people that were murdered and raped and victims of violent crime in California under his sanctuary state policies? He's going to have to answer for all of that. And you know, right now he's not being held accountable. It was a fun, that was fun to do. I love that. Oh no, no, no, by the way, do you think was a good strategic move on DeSantis to do it?

Big time. You think so? Yeah, I thought he did very well, I really did. But do you think it was a good move because he was in the competition Newsom was not so it brought more positive attention to Newsom the Santas didn't need to do it Newsom needed this to be look I think Ron has been a great governor for the state of Florida fully great I think he's crushed it I think that he has a bright future I don't know what that is you think he's

got the goodies at the highest level I don't know what that is. You think he's got the goodies at the highest level? I don't know. He's a young guy. I mean, he's got time. He's got time. Look, I do think there's going to be... I don't really want to talk too much about it. Democrats are in such disarray because now it's Mom Donnie and it's AOC and the squad and Grandpa Bernie and Pocahontas and they're all killing each other. Right. And nobody will stand up to the radicals in their party.

But I do think there are distinct differences. You referred to some of them earlier between in the MAGA movement. I don't think we're really gonna discuss that until after the 26 midterms. If I were to offer advice to everybody, I'd say, don't focus on your differences now. Focus on that after 26. Because I do think there is an isolationist wing in the MAGA movement.

Okay, I'm not part of that. I don't agree with that. I hear some comments about Israel that I find very troubling. I don't like that either. I think I kind of am really more in line with Trump than some people that claim to be in line with Trump. But I was with him too from the beginning and I had people beating the crap, conservatives beating the crap out of me for years on air.

Ben Shapiro, Glenn Beck, they were pounding the hell out of me when I supported Trump in 15 and 16 and you know I remember that because Beck was not supporting in 2016 no no and neither was Shapiro no I don't know if he still is today by the way I hold no ill will or resentment you asked me about you know my former colleagues no ill will no resentment wish them the best it's not that it's just the point is I take my position, I went out hard and heavy first, and I'll tell you what made it different for me, and I'm very, I love Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz sounded like Reagan in many ways, but I didn't, I just knew Trump

could win. And I knew he thought differently. We spent hours in 15 when he was getting serious about this, deep into the night. Cruz. No, with Trump talking about issues, and there was something uniquely different about him. Like when he would make the argument, why don't they pay for their liberation? Talking about Iraq, I'm like, I really can't argue against that.

Or making the case for a border wall in a passionate way or his economic policy or you know, I throw ideas about him at healthcare about Energy dominance and all these other things that he's now implementing What makes this so dynamic at this point and I won't give you my laundry list But everything that he's been doing is big. Everything is consequential. Everything is I Mean nobody has been able to do what he's done in six months pretty amazing That's why I get kind of aggravated when everyone's killing each other. Give him a little breathing room Let's get to the bottom of the things you were talking about in the beginning of this podcast

I'm with you completely but let's not lose sight of the success, you know Like your show is successful if you have one bad episode or one bad guest or somebody that says something stupid, I mean, is that what you want the focus to be on? The only thing is if I am, if they make a promise on my behalf and I don't get ahead of it, I'm the leader of everything that rises and falls on me.

That is my only call out. So if he goes and makes a promise on my behalf, he already knows we've had those conversations. He already told me you're giving me a million dollars for my number here today. Yeah, for sure. I heard that. And you're giving me two million

with your half a billion that you got and the money that you made. So we're going back to that. The numbers keep changing. You brought that up. You brought that up. I don't even get paid. I just, I'm here for the comments.

I'm getting text messages from guys saying I gotta get you out. I don't know where you gotta go. I would have another hour of conversation with you. You know what the problem is? I have to do three hours of radio and then I have my TV show and I have other interviews I'm doing today.

But you know, listen, thank you for having me. Thank you for the times you come on my show. You're hard to book, so I'd like it to be a little easier. One reason. Why? You know why you're hard to book? It's I put the four kids down when your show's on. I understand.

That's the only thing. Family first. So I got, if you tell me nine, 10, and you keep nine, 10, I'll keep it. But if you say nine, 10 turns nine, 40, I can't do it because I gotta come back and put some of the kids down. I will do kids. So I got a 13, 11, a nine, and a four.

And I would have 20 more if I could. What? Hands down. Elon Musk Jr. I would have 40 if I come home, they're running up to me. I'd have 40 kids, but we're living in different times. Seriously? Hands down, I'm not even kidding.

I want that discussion. We gotta have that. I have my podcast, I'd love to have all of you come on. We'd love to. Well listen, you're down here, we'll do more of this. We'll do more of this. No, thank you for having me. Thanks for being so gracious. And we appreciate you as well. I appreciate it, and congr do more of this. We'll do more of this. No, thank you for having me. Thanks for being so gracious.

And we appreciate you as well. I appreciate it, and congrats all of you. This guy. Rob is no joke. Watching this guy work, man. Rob is no joke, son. This is serious kick-ass internet play here. Oh, he's awesome.

In real time. He's a great guy, he's a great guy. We feel the same way. We're gonna continue, guys. So hang tight, we're just gonna say goodbye, and we're gonna come back because there's a story of a guy You take all the way as she's bored that did something on that is a jackass get rid of them five jobs We have that you about the story hang tight. Let me say goodbye to Sean. Should we take a quick pic or no? Guys we're gonna take a quick picture with Sean and now we're giving him a gift

Vinny and I are gonna just hold down the fort while your eyes are all waiting Look at that Oh man there we go Maybe a pen for Sean Hannity to sign, Rob? Adam, real quick. Yes, sir. Is there a pen for Mr. Hannity? Let's get the Sharpie for Sean to sign and we'll continue the podcast.

I love it. Tom, Vinnie, get in there. All right. Three, two, one. Three, two, one. I just felt right. You guys are great, man. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you for being here. Truly. This was amazing. I just felt right. You guys are great, man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for being here. This was amazing. I enjoyed it. Likewise. Likewise. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Rob, can you give this to him on the way out? Yes, sir. Put your John Hancock on there. All right. I got three more stories I want to go through. We didn't really talk about Cold Barrel that much. Thank you for your patience. Chad, do you want to grab this real quick? Thank you, sir.

Safe travels, we'll do it again. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Sean. I appreciate you. Thank you so much. Thank you. God bless you all. We'll see you soon.

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I want to go to a story. Rob, a guy on Twitter, if you can go to Twitter, one of my top tweets, this guy who's an entrepreneur founder eventually gets so sick of this one employee that he hired that he posts this story, and we have to talk about this guy. Watch this, Tom. This gets 23 million views. A guy named Suhail, let's see how many followers he's got. Can you just go on his profile?

I don't know how many followers he's got. So look at this. He's got 377,000 followers. He puts this tweet, go back, if you could, Rob. Watch this, Vinny. Tom, this is very important. There's a guy named Sohan Parekh in India who works at three to four startups at the same time.

He's been preying on YC companies and more, be aware. I fired this guy in his first week and told him to stop lying, scamming people. He hasn't stopped a year later, no more excuses, he puts him on blast, okay? Now you're gonna see what this guy does, Vinny, we're gonna get right into it. So this guy, if you go a little bit lower, somebody watches saying, why would anybody put him on blast?

That's his resume, 90% fake. And he changes his resume regularly. Rob, if you can click on a resume, this is becoming something called over-employment. Over-employment. 90% of the stuff on his resume is BS. Go back to the Twitter exchange because I want to go a little bit lower on right there. I keep going on the bottom.

I want to see what people are saying and watch his exchange. I want to say also that I try to talk sense into this guy, explaining the impact and give him a chance to turn a new leaf because sometimes that's what a person needs, but it currently didn't work. He continues. Another guy comments saying, why would you put him on blast, keep going a little bit lower Rob, on the things that he responded to. There's a bunch of them that he responds to.

That's the guy's face. Zoom out a little bit Rob so we can see the guy's face. That's the guy's face who did this okay? He's now from then done multiple interviews with others They've asked him he's been on podcasts. He's come back trying to apologize to what feedback. Can you give me? How can I change other business owners? Responded in this tweet with him, well, why did you do this? He says, well, one time, we even sent him a laptop because he said he claimed that he lived in the US,

so we sent him a laptop in the US, but it went to his sister's house. We got the laptop back. He's lied to so many other people that people eventually started responding. Now he's trying to change. So then one company offers this guy, Tom, a $250,000 a year job to work out of San Francisco. Guess what he said?

No. You know why? Because it's working from the office. He says, no, I can't do that because he can't bullshit everybody. So as the story continues, and I'm looking at this, this is what I tweeted at the top, Rob, if you can zoom in a little bit, working from home mainly favors the one working from home. If you're that good at working from home, start your own business.

You claim you're that disciplined, start your own business. This happened to us multiple times since the pandemic and they don't even care. They don't care when you fire them because it's not hard to find the next victim. These types of people are going to find so many business owners to go through. The case study gets even more interesting, Tom, which is actually funny to be thinking about. So one guy, one company gets so sick and tired of being taken advantage of so many times that they hire a guy named Eric.

Rob, if you can have Brandon send you the story to show, it's so funny. They hire a guy, they claim his name is Eric, Eric has one job. You know what his job is? To go out there and find all the employees that work for this company who are abusing it, Vinny. So all day long, he is investigating the hundreds of employees that work from home for this company to find how many other jobs they have that they're lying. That's his job.

Did you understand what I just said? So what is his job? He's finding other people that are lying, the company's paying you W-2 salary, all the other stuff. Guess what the guy ends up doing a few months later after he investigates these guys? He says, holy shit, that's a brilliant idea. He starts doing it. So he gets multiple jobs. He now makes $300,000 off of three or four jobs and you know how he does when a company is holding Zooms? He has two different Zooms on his screen that he's logged into, two headsets. When it comes time that they're talking to him, guess what he does?

He accidentally closes the video on this one, answers the question here, then when he asks to answer you, he closes the video on this, answers it over here, and when they ask what happened, he says, I just had internet connection. Oh wow. And he's been able to do this with four jobs, make $685,000 a year with over employment. Tom, when you hear a story like this, what do you think about it with this over employment concept? Well I think about several things and let's go through them here. The first thing, this has been going on in Silicon Valley for a lot of years where they feared that engineers are doing double jobs, especially the ones that lived in India where they would hire a junior engineer to

work with them. So let's say you're paying me 120 and Adam's paying me 120. I'm making 240 and I'm giving 50 US to a junior engineer with me in India. So I'm basically operating myself almost as a small IT service company. And then, well, if I got two, maybe I could get three. And it's been hap, it was happening. Here's what the very interesting about this. So HR groups, who's going to be the most pissed about this when they find out about the, about the overpayment. Cause you're really not getting what you think you're supposed to be getting. It was the investors. Yeah, the investors are saying the CEO saying so Pat's been on board. He'd be like Tom

HR reports to you. What the hell? Are we getting the quality we're supposed to be getting and worse is our code getting out to other people that might be seeing some Of our advanced products coming in the future people that might be seeing some of our advanced products coming in the future, Tom, stop stuttering. What are we doing at HR to ensure that the people that are our remote engineers are in fact doing it for us? So you had boards that were piping up. Now, guess what, it goes a layer deeper.

Because of all the AI hiring and some of the stuff that people were trying to do, what is the last thing that Silicon Valley usually puts on new inventions? Compliance, controls and restrictions. Because it costs money to put that there. They'd rather say, Vinnie, this is the best software ever. Use it for your company. Sign here for a SaaS contract. Oh, thank you so much. I get to be a, or by the way, we give you 20% off to be an early customer. Boom. So guess what? The last thing's in there is control. What is the last thing that came onto Facebook that they then got dragged before state attorney

generals controls about built bullying controls about porn controls about what young kids were seeing. Remember why wasn't that in the beginning? Because there were documents inside meta because you were making money on ads doing it that way. And so controls restrictions and compliance comes later. So what's happening right now is the inmates are running the asylum. That is the one big headline here. The engineers are using the very tools and techniques of technology and remote work to fraudulently have multiple jobs. And some of them are actually trying to deliver by having junior

engineers with them and so what's going on now that's in the sheer light of day is Silicon Valley doesn't want to talk about that the inmates are actually running the asylum that they don't have controls they don't have restrictions and when they hire a compliance officer the compliance officer said why am I running around busting my ass for $140,000 a year? That was the last guy Pat talked about. I could invent two more compliance officers. I could make $300,000 checking up on people. So guess what?

The cop that was watching all of the Prohibition in Chicago said, I can make more money actually helping and being part of this than just being a cop. You know what? That's what I'm going to do. That's the story, by the way. Look at this. A millennial made $300,000 secret to work in multiple jobs while tasked with catching others doing the same. Wow.

The cop decided to be part of it and make money. That's right. And the guy that claimed he had four or five jobs, all nonsense like he wasn't working, he claimed he was working 140 hours a week, and he graduated from Mumbai University. This is one of the interviews. He actually doesn't answer the question. He claimed he was working 140 hours a week, any graduate from Mumbai University. This is one of the interviews. He actually doesn't answer the question.

He can play the first 30 seconds to just kind of hear how he talks. Watch this here, go for it. It is true. And yeah, I would love to add color to it, but that is true. Yeah, I guess the question is, do you believe that you are in violation of your own employment

contracts or do you believe that there was some sort of legal loophole that allowed you to do this without committing any sort of legal violation? I mean, honestly, I think going back to like how it even like started to happen and what the motivation was, obviously I would want to preface with saying I'm not proud of what I've done. That's not something that I endorse either. But. You can probably write that rap.

So the question becomes this Tom, whose fault is this? Well it's the moral failing of the employees, so that's bad that the employees did this. But guess what? It's what I was talking about. Silicon Valley got scammed by some of its own tools and techniques, and there's a lot of companies out there that suddenly realized this was going on,

and it's like, it's their fault. I think the investors are the ones should be upset. This is, wait a minute. You caused this. You told me people were gonna work for home, but you were gonna check up on it. Obviously you didn't. Obviously you didn't have the tools in there.

Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. Can you tell me that these people work in two jobs, weren't stealing our code, using it for other things? Well, wait a minute. No, you can't tell me that. And so when you allow people to work remote, and then you put all in these tools that enable remote, and then the backgrounds and everything you can put on zoom to make remote

Look as authentic as possible you open yourself up to it And so you know what the companies that that allowed it Pat open themselves up to it and guess what? You may you can't open a bank nowadays without compliance and and and being you know have the right kind of people there and Controls the regulations, but have the right kind of people there and controls the regulations But in the wild west of Silicon Valley You could do what you want and it's left to the board and the CEOs to make the decisions to say look It's all on them. I put it's them. It's the put on the entrepreneur Adam. I want to go one more story But go for it your with you. Well, I might have be a little counterintuitive here, but what's the big deal here because?

Well, I might be a little counterintuitive here, but what's the big deal here? Because on one end, we're making fun of people who don't work their tail off and don't respect work-life balance or basically want to do the four day thing and 30 hour thing. I'm not advocating for this guy's doing, but we're telling people go get side hustles, go get the gig economy, basically keep working, get your, you know, increase your market share and that's not what he's doing He's not doing uber on the weekend. Don't conflate the two issues He's defrauding three companies simultaneously claiming to be working for them full time

That's what it okay, but here's my question if he's actually doing a good job, and he's supposed to be working He's not he's not getting his job done. That's why the guy okay Well, then if he's not doing good job if you would have paid attention to the story You would have known that that's what I said in the first 30 seconds, so let me go to the next door That's how the guy okay, well then if he's not doing good job If you would have paid attention to the story you would have known that that's what I said in the first 30 seconds So let me go to the next story. That's how we got Idea the idea what this story is the idea what the story is the following it's on the employer But it comes down to the following five years ago during kovat

Everybody said go get the bag and get your money. Go, if another person pays you multiple, whatever, do it. I had a guy that got a raise with us due to threats and one of my COOs gave him a raise three times. And the last time he asked for the raise, I said now it's on you. He's schooling you and you're falling for the trap. The guy ends up going from a $55,000 a year salary to a 120 at another company the company realizes He's not real they end up firing the guy and he's back to making fifty five thousand dollars a year. We had a guy Funny just last year. Okay, who we were paying w-2. That's what I'm telling you. It's on you on us

Guys got a w-2 full-time job with us. We're on a Zoom. Let's just say this guy's working out of Arizona. And I know, because of people that he's working with at his new company, that he's working two multiple full-time jobs, I'm paying a full-time salary. This guy's got two full-time salaries. And I know he's got a full-time salary, because the guy from the other company knew us

because of a entertainment related, and he told us. Do you understand what's going on here? So he moves from the other company knew us because of a attainment related and he told us Do you understand what's going on here? Yeah, so he moves to the other he moves to the other city claiming That he's still working full-time for us from the city that we hired him from because where his family's from We're on a zoom and I said, so how's everything in Phoenix, Arizona? I Know he's not in Phoenix. I know he's not been in Phoenix for two months and he says oh things are very good here And very hot very dry. He's not in Phoenix, Arizona. He's in a different place You know what happened to him phone? We're moving on next person you know because you know, you know, you know what it really comes down to is You're building your reputation and you're building your character and your career

That's gonna catch up to your long term And you have to be very careful with this. So whether you're somebody that's watching this and saying, I don't even know why they're talking about this, many employers are being affected by this and many younger people in their career think this is cool to do, long term people won't hire you if they find that this is what you're doing. But if you're so great at working from home, go start a business. If you're so good that you can work 140 hours a week, one of the main reasons why people don't start a business is because they're not willing to work 140 hours a week.

They're not willing to work 120 hours a week. But go do your thing. By the way, another thing that we talk about at the vault conference, if you haven't yet registered, get your tickets, bring your team with you. These are the types of things we process with everybody that's in the room. Let's go to the next story that I want to go to. Next story I want to go to. Next story I wanna go to. Okay.

How YouTube won the battle for TV viewers. Okay. This is a Wall Street Journal story. Adam, is this the one that you send in a group text? Or, I think this is the one that you send in a group text. Yeah, very good article. And let me read this to you folks. Rob, I don't know if we have a video on this or not.

I think it's just a story. Just a story. YouTube became the most watched video provider on televisions in the US earlier this year, surpassing mobile devices with over a billion hours watched daily, outpacing Disney combined broadcast, cable and streaming services according to Nielsen data. Our goal is for the YouTube app to be people's way into as much of the universe of video content that exists on the internet as possible," says Christian Ostelian, YouTube's Vice President of Product Management. The company is enhancing its TV app with features like personalized content feeds to keep viewers

engaged. Longer YouTube creators including hosts Rhett McLaughlin and Charles Lincoln Neal of Good Mythical Morning are producing longer, higher quality video content like sketches Comedy and talk shows with TV accounting for 53% of viewership. There's a phenomenon That's going on right now and wait. There's the YouTube icon on the television I just mount it on my first apartment said Neil Research from tubular lab shows that viewers spend more time with content over 15 minutes on TV and longer videos.

Mid-roll ads generate more revenue as Google shares 55% of commercial revenue with creators. By the way, if you're watching this right now and you're staying with us in the last 30 minutes that we have together, can you take a picture on whatever way you're watching the content if it's on TV, tag us on X and just put hashtag PBD Podcast, tag me, Patrick, David, show it to us that you're watching this. I'm curious how you consume the content because when Rob was showing me the numbers last week, we had one of our best executive meetings ever, quarterly, Tom called it the best one ever, my wife was blown away by the meeting that we had.

It's just incredible the kind of products that we're producing right now internally and no one knows about it. Rob showed data that number two right now devices for us on how they watch the podcast, Rob, it's TV. Yes sir. And that was around 34, 35% of it. Is that not? They watch this on TV on the YouTube app.

Tom, your thoughts on this story. Well guess what? Cable was what's called a walled garden. So you basically paid for cable, like Comcast or DirecTV, cable or satellite, and you got your 100 or so channels, 30 of which mattered, the top ones, you know, your network, CNN, all the ESPNs, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And that was called the walled garden. You couldn't go beyond the walled garden.

Even if there was something interesting, couldn't go behind it. And then a little thing called streaming happened. Streaming is just a fancy name for freedom of choice because now you've got the internet connected to your TV, all kinds of apps, or you can just go to the internet app, the Silk app, which is on many Samsung TVs, which is made by Silk, I believe it's made by Amazon, and it's an internet access. You go wherever you want and and watch right there on a What they call the instead of lean forward on a laptop or hunched over on the phone

It's the lean back on the couch watching your connected TV. And so with freedom has come Streaming because it's no longer a walled garden no longer controlled and the new generation wants nothing to do a cable subscription So they're not subscribing the cable if it's pumped into their dorm room. They'll they'll get it But if when it's their choice no it's streaming on their laptop and on their phone So streaming as a delivery is winning and then YouTube knows more about Live and analytics of the customer and feeding them the right content Then any of the traditional media companies who have been leaning on the walled garden.

Hey, we'll just pay this to Comcast and we'll get some promotion and we'll be at channel 20 so we're up low so when you go with your remote control through the menu, we show up first. That was a game in the walled garden. Now you've got internet geniuses in YouTube and access to great content providers like us leading the way in podcasts on video on YouTube.

And guess what? They're saying, I know what you like and I'm gonna feed this to you, this to you, this to you, this to you, this to you, and I'm gonna get longer sessions out of it. And so now YouTube is winning because they know how to deliver great content and they're attracting great content providers

and the wall garden is dying. That's what's happening, and the wall garden is dying. That's what's happening. And the wall garden is the reason what we talked about earlier today that I won't go into except to say this. All those big contracts are dinosaurs. All those big contracts are dead. There may be a time where even Caitlin Collins,

rookie contract is is dead But that that is even too much and now you've got Anderson Cooper and everybody their big contracts are going away And we will find out what people like Stephen a well his contract and he's a talent and he's got a bunch of different shows And he's got a bunch of different viewpoints and a bunch of different angles But will ESPN be able to deliver enough audience that's watching him plus the streaming or will Stephen A's contract become you know the Alex Rodriguez contract which originally was signed ended up being too big and they traded not because Alex was a bad player what but because you know I signed this contract and I can't afford to pay this and so small teams sold to the big teams

or what Alex Rodriguez contract become more so small teams sold to the big teams. Or will Alex Rodriguez's contract become more like the Aaron Judge or the Shohei Otani contracts, that much of it's deferred and it's all gonna be delivered? We will see what we will see, but right now, streaming is the top delivery. YouTube has got all the technology to find out exactly what to feed to you,

and they're attracting great providers such as us. And I'm not supposed to say this because we got NDAs in place, but there have been larger traditional network people that have come and knocked on Pat's door with a checkbook and we said no. Yeah, and that last part, can we cut that last part? I didn't name any letters

and I'm trying to stay with the NDA. Vinny, your thoughts on the story. No, I think it's fantastic. And just watching the Stephen Colbert and all that stuff, people are just sick and tired of the nonsense. And it's like the numbers don't lie. The numbers don't lie.

The fact that they're losing money, they've lost all credibility. When I'm home, Pat, you could rent a movie on YouTube if you want. It goes through your account. I watch, you could play music in the background, you could watch long form thing, you could watch the shows and everything on there. I'm so happy that mainstream is dying

and YouTube is taking over. It's a great thing and guess what? We're on YouTube. Perfect. And we're on all platforms, but mainly when we go live, we're on YouTube. It's here. So we're in somebody's living, like right now, we're in living rooms.

The majority of people right now at home cooking, cleaning. But I saw one where, you saw that photo where there's like a six month old and the head is just, like it's the back of the head and you're on the screen. I love it. Yeah, I'm on X right now. I've seen different people. Here's a guy Yeah, I'm on X right now. I'm seeing different people Here's a guy named I don't even know how to pronounce Dar you watch and streaming from Jamaica another guy Jeffrey Gunnels Okay is watching it on I don't know if that's a TV. He's watching on a TV. We got another one here

Oh, wow, Luffy. He's watching it on the TV Another guy's watching on his phone It's just interesting seeing how people consume content today. Adam. The thing with YouTube is you can get whatever you want at any time you want from whoever you want and you can do it in your own, the comfort of your own home, on the road, on the go. It doesn't matter. You know, they talk about having a mixed media diet. All right, I read the Wall Street Journal. I absorbed Fox, I see CNN, I'll read Bloomberg,

sing it out there. YouTube is like a buffet of information. Remember the first time that when I started on the podcast with PBD goes, are you familiar with absorbing information quickly called chunking? I don't watch YouTube unless it's to speed everything I've listened to. If someone walks into a room, and I'm listening to something they're like dude Are you insane because it sounds like? The only person I can't listen to on 2x speed is Ben Shapiro Like I just talks on 2x speed but anything you want to learn anything you want to know anything Information you'd ever need is on YouTube so versus We all grew up in the 80s and 90s whenever we'd have to sit down on the couch

Wait for our show to come on. You know, if it's a half hour show, it's really only 21 minutes. And there's nine minutes of commercials. You're waiting. You might not even like the show and like, but your sister wants to watch a show. Those days are over. So YouTube allows you to do what the hell ever you want to do. It's like BK, you know, do it your way. And the last thing of this, to talk about profitability, you talk about Stephen Colbert, YouTube doesn't have to pay you anything. It's like, you know, like if you're doing a farm league, or AAA, unless you're good, YouTube will pay you zero money. Do you know what percentage of YouTube channels have over 100,000 subscribers? What percentage? Very small.

Less than 1%. Less than 1% so you have all these people starting to do content starting to build channels sort of starting to get eyeballs YouTube can monetize those put advertising behind it and you won't make one penny it's like a farm league and if you get to 100,000 or a million then YouTube will basically start paying you but it's a great model for YouTube true horrible for people who wanna try to make money early. Look at this. Look at these tweets, Rob.

Go back on the hashtag if you cannot. Look at that. So this is Chef, boyabill, boyerbill, watching a TV. By the way, whoever's birthday it is, happy birthday to you. Kay, that's one. Here's another one. Watching from the bedroom.

Still haven't gotten out of bed. Marie, whatever you're doing, I mean, listen. That looks, hey-o! But listen, we love you for watching, Marie McDonald, go to the next one. We forget California's very early when we start. This is another one on TV, if you zoom in, it's a Vizio TV, Melody Moses, watching this off TV.

So this TV thing is really becoming a thing. We look good. Right? Vinny, you look good. No, no, we look tan. Look at you. Listen, I'm just a by-product of living in Florida in a couple weeks in Hampton.

It's almost like you're Middle Eastern. Yeah, T-Rone. T-Rone. T-Rone. That T-Rone thing, Iranians were, you know. By the way, what's your take on YouTube, by the way? I think. You got in on YouTube early.

What was, first video you ever did on? I don't even know if I got early. I got in 2013, YouTube was 04. The OGs came in early. No, when I got on, there was already PewDiePie 100 million subs. There was already a bunch of guys that, you know, had already established a name.

We got started, first clip we uploaded was December. Go to that one with my pink socks on, which is absolutely fantastic. It's embarrassing. But if you go to oldest, go to the second one right there. Yeah, what's the date on that? 12 years. Okay, can you just see what the date is?

It is November 16th of 2012. November 16th, please don't watch it. Okay, skip it. Don't watch it, because the socks I got on are just fantastic. Look at that. Oh wow, look at this. PB, how old are you?

By the way, this is positive. Wow, I know who bought my grandmother's couch. Tom, watch your language. So that's us in Whitman Hills. Tom, trying PBD? That's us in Whitman Hills, and guess what it looks like? It looks like the mountains are on fire in California in the back, if you look closely.

They usually are. But I'll tell you what, Pat Pat based on that couch sit up you I sit up straight With the pink socks and that couch you could have been in Chatsworth from the stories I know I wasn't chance A lot of the people in Chatsworth, but you can you can remove this clip Rob, but sometimes some people Join this you know how they say like it's better to not necessarily be first sometimes it's better to be second or third friendster was first exactly friend or Napster was first whatever it was a lot of people started doing YouTube in oh four or five oh eight they're just like I've been doing this for five years ten years yeah I'm out and then all of a sudden you're building upon their momentum yeah well look the reality of it is the game is changing, which is good.

Independent content creators are getting a voice, which is good. A lot of them will be at the vault conference this year. And for those of you guys that are saying, well, maybe, maybe I should create content. Maybe I should start a side gig. Maybe I should team up with somebody. Maybe I should go raise some capital. Maybe I should, guy asked me a question on my neck. He's like, well, my mother just assigned me

to be the CEO of the business and I don't know what to do. And I'm like, listen, how many conferences do you go to? Once you get into business, a lot of the secret sauces are going to the events to learn from other people. And if you haven't yet, I'm telling you this right now, guys, if you haven't yet registered for this, go on that QR code, make a decision, don't tell me you have events on those days, don't tell me next year, please do not be

part of the community that says I'm for sure going to go next year. There's nothing more annoying than people that say next year. You're your own worst enemy because you keep putting things off. Get registered, bring you and your wife and say, babe, we got big dreams, big plans, we got to go around other people that got big dreams Big plans and learn from them get a ticket for you and your spouse your partner come spend three and a half days with us In Orlando September 8th through the 11th cannot wait to see all of you there. God bless everybody. Take care, bye bye bye bye.