PBD Podcast - “I Am Crazy” - Alex Jones | PBD Podcast | Ep. 281

Starting point is 00:00:00 30% Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so close I can take sweetly thick dough I know this life meant for me Yeah, why would you plan on the life when we got fed David? Value payment, giving values, contagiousness, world, or entrepreneurs We can't no value that hate it, I'd be running home You look what I've become

Starting point is 00:00:22 I'm gonna call me look what I've become. I'm gonna call him. Okay, so today's guest for those of you that know him, he doesn't need an introduction, you love him, you hate him. So funny, I was asking one of the guys in here, I said, so and rest, what do you think about Alex Jones? He says, well, based on the viral clips I've seen, he looks like he's crazy based on some of the stuff that he says. He says, I don't know much about him.

Starting point is 00:00:47 That's all I know what the media says about him. This is a guy that doesn't follow politics. The last time you and I were together, I think it was a day or two after you had gotten banned. We sat down in Austin. We had a, it was a different kind of a conversation. We had in Austin. It was, you were eating apples.

Starting point is 00:01:04 If you remember, you were biting that apple. We were going, it was an intense conversation we had. But it was a good one. And it was late in the evening. I'd been up for like, since 5 AM, I was exhausted, but it was a good discussion. Yes, and I'm glad we're able to do it now. Obviously, that's four, five years later

Starting point is 00:01:17 since the last conversation. We got a lot to cover with you. It's so interesting, with the timing of it right now, is, you know, what's going on with the Wagner group or what? Wagner, Wagner, Wagner and Brnoja. Yeah. What's going on there? We'll come. Number one story across the world. I mean, this could lead to nuclear war very easily. That's why I'm glad we're actually in a vault with like five. We're safe here. We're safe here. You're in a safe. We got our terrible new kids. We got that story. We got our FK comments he's

Starting point is 00:01:44 made. And I know your fans, your fans of some of the stuff he talked about. We'll get into that as well. Bohemian growth, some of the things that maybe a lot of people have no stories of it, but we'll head it again from a different angle. Then Navy confirming they knew the sub was going down. I think Coast Card new as of last Sunday, but none of us know about it. We're thinking, I have 40 more hours all all this other stuff. We'll talk about that. Kareen Jean-Pierre's questioning this last, I think it was even yesterday.

Starting point is 00:02:11 It was yesterday. It was amazing. Back and forth and she just didn't want to answer any of it. I think even Kirby got him well. Kirby got him well. Kirby walked off. Yeah, he walked off. A prediction you made March 8th of this year that came true. We'll play that clip. We got a few other things. but this is the first thing I'm gonna talk about from my standpoint. So, Sandy Hook, we're not talking Sandy Hook. What I wanna talk to you about is,

Starting point is 00:02:31 they came out, if you can pull up this article, what a fine of, this is Sandy Hook families want Alex Jones to pay up, $2.75 trillion in damages as he seeks neutral. So here's the question I got for you. Either you're the richest man in the world and we don't know that, how do they collect that kind of money? How did they come up with a number like this to collect from you?

Starting point is 00:02:52 And then they run articles in your time saying, Jones refuses to pay. How am I, that's like the GDP of like Scotland? Jones refused more than that. Or France actually. India's GDP is exactly $3,000,000. So they want you France actually India's GDP is exactly three trillion dollars So they want you to pay India's GDP, which is a billion five hundred million I'm not labby and they say why is he laugh? Well, here's the thing. I was found. This is very interesting

Starting point is 00:03:16 This is a new thing if you wonder why Fox Settle dominion for seven hundred something million right as the trial started over question the election, which we're not doing. I was all elections are free and fair and Biden's the greatest president ever. I'm serious. I love him, man. And the shots are wonderful. Take them all. Take hundreds of them. But but seriously, GMO is wonderful. I would say it's wonderful. Hunter Biden's great. Yeah. Anyway, I love his laptop. Yeah. Anyway, I love his laptop. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no says, the jury, you're guilty. Well, the judge didn't call the default in dominion with Fox. The judge said, I'm saying you're guilty

Starting point is 00:04:11 and you did lie about the election and I'm gonna tell the jury that. I'm gonna start it from that point. So she did like a soft default with them. That's when they went, whoa, we settled. Well, with me, they did a hard default. Said, I gave them no information. No, I gave them four years of stuff,

Starting point is 00:04:25 gave them everything they wanted, and then they had no case because I never made up any of this stuff that they said that I said, and I couldn't put a defense on. The jury's only heard, I'm guilty now to decide how much. Then they put financial experts on that never examined our books, didn't want to look at our books, and said I was worth $400 million.

Starting point is 00:04:44 At the time of that first trial, I had about $2 million in the bank. And it's some real estate. That's it. Yeah, it's all lies. It's all like, sure, I've had gross sales of $60 million before, but when you're selling water filters, you're only making 30% on them, because you give them a good price.

Starting point is 00:05:01 Yeah, I mean, I've sold $10 million a water filter a year. And then we end up at for everything, you know, getting a couple million, then I probably got a couple hundred thousand out of that. So you know how businesses, you don't get the gross amount. And so they look back over the fact that we made, I mean, probably like $607 million in the last 10, 12 years. And they just said, look, he kept 400 million.

Starting point is 00:05:23 And then the jury's went, well, fine then maybe give him a billion billion and then they went back to the judge and said one point five billion in Connecticut's not enough they said and that's what's in Bloomberg this is not a joke folks they said well no he we want two point seven five trillion how did they come up with that number though they gave an FBI agent who I never heard his name never talked about him they had none of me on air none none of my crew, no articles, he's listed in the lawsuit from Connecticut, first time I read his name,

Starting point is 00:05:49 and he got 90 plus million from me. And the law says in Connecticut, in Texas, you can't choose my things to say your name. The judge just waved and said, we don't care. Look it up, 90, he got 95 million dollars. I'd never seen him, did not know his name, till I get the lawsuit and I Google his name. And he settled the stand.

Starting point is 00:06:09 He got one phone call in his office to make sure he was really an FBI agent. And he said, and that was because of me, I didn't even know the guy, it was the call. Then the guy that called his office showed up the court and I found his videos on YouTube just a polite guy calling up saying, hey, people say this didn't happen. I'm just calling to check your really FBI agent.

Starting point is 00:06:24 And the jury said 90 something million dollars, you got one phone call. Geez. I wanna get one of these phone calls, if I get 90 million dollars for it. I like, these numbers seem outrageous, whether it's a half a billion dollars, a billion dollars, a trillion dollars.

Starting point is 00:06:37 And by the way, the media will say I'm denying it. Four years ago on your show, I said I thought it happened. I said it, seven years ago, I thought it happened. But here's my question. The media just went and took a few things out of context and blew it up. Here's my question Alex, whatever the outrageous number is. You're saying you were never even worth anything

Starting point is 00:06:51 where it's close to that. All right, you filed for bankruptcy after that, right? So walk me through the process. Well the judges wouldn't let me tell the jury. The judge of Connecticut said six months in jail, he could attempt, she gave me a list of 20 plus things. Cannot say I'm innocent.

Starting point is 00:07:07 This is on TV. And then we cut away at those points. Cannot say I'm innocent. Cannot say I'm in bankruptcy. Cannot present sworn federal documents and my bank accounts. Which you go to jail of you lie of bankruptcy. Yeah. So walk us through what happens when you're, when you're bankrupt for a billion or trillion

Starting point is 00:07:24 dollars. What, What happens then? I mean, it's like if somebody says, I'm gonna shoot you once, I'm like, please don't, I'm gonna shoot you five times, I'm like, please don't. We're gonna shoot you 500 times, you're just like, that's ridiculous. I'm okay, 10 times or 500 times, it becomes preposterous and just shows the excesses of the hysteria

Starting point is 00:07:43 that's going on. Is it preclude you from making more money now? How does that work? just shows the excesses of the hysteria that's going on. Does it preclude you from making more money now? How does that work? I generally don't understand when you file for bankruptcy and you're quote unquote owed a trillion dollars. What do the outrageous number is? Do they seize your assets?

Starting point is 00:07:56 Do they seize your bank accounts? How do you even pay this? I mean, here's the thing. I've never lived super opulently. I mean, I got a nice car, house, was running pool, and I can get a good stake for 50 bucks. I mean, I've never, so I, I mean, I used to take the money we'd have

Starting point is 00:08:11 and put it into advertising and promotion and buy ads in order to promote my show because I wanted to get the word out. And so it was really just an engine of getting the word out. I was trying to make a bunch of money to build the media infrastructure. That was my real goal. And then, you know,

Starting point is 00:08:24 but just like any business, that's the goal of the business. It's a bunch of money to build the media infrastructure. That was my real goal. And then, you know, it was just like any business. That's the goal of the business. He's a great revenue. We get that. And then the mission, but I wasn't doing it as a business. It was a business to make money to get the word out. And it's fine to make money, but my real motive was always to, you know, expose the globalist, not have World War III, have sovereignty, have a good country for my children,

Starting point is 00:08:43 a good world to grow up in. And I was exposing interesting, crazy things that I knew about and having fun while I was doing it. No, but that doesn't really answer the question, because I understand your motivation to make the money. How do you repay the money? The quote unquote billion dollars. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:08:57 Well, that's, how does that work? Sure. I mean, that's a prime of face to answer. Obviously, I don't. Okay. I mean, I just said, I mean, the court has said, I can be paid if I want to stay at free speech systems and let it keep going. A million and a half dollars a year right now.

Starting point is 00:09:09 Well, my legal bills are over a million and a half dollars a year. It's crazy. So I basically work for free now. I had my house at home, I'm excited. And that's basically, so I've run out of money and that's a big question. And they've now admitted the lawyers in both cases in Texas and Connecticut said, the courthouse steps,

Starting point is 00:09:25 our goal is not to get this money. Our goal is to silence him. Yeah, so if you, if you, do you know Joe Luisa's story, what happened to him at the tail end of his career? The boxer. The boxer. So Joe Luis, the IRS came after this.

Starting point is 00:09:37 If you just type in Joe Luis, type in Joe Luis, IRS, poverty, if you just type that in. So it's a incredible story. Yeah, it's an incredible story. This is a guy that's a legend. Go to the second one, Claremont Review of Books, but it's a New York Times story I'm looking at here.

Starting point is 00:09:53 This guy had, the IRS came after him so much that eventually he's like, dude, I can't pay this back. And then the way Joe Lewis's career ended is he was in Vegas. He got hired by his friends. They gave him a place to live. They gave him food and all he did is greet people

Starting point is 00:10:10 when they came in. This was a form of shutting somebody down and hey, just go sit there, you know, the whole thing by shut up and, shut up and dribble. And because he was a Republican. Joe Lewis, that's kind of where I was going. Oh, sorry. Yeah, go ahead.

Starting point is 00:10:25 Well, I mean, for people, because I've read the stories, I want to read the book, but I knew about the, it's even like documentaries, even on history channel that I saw like 20 years ago. So this is not debated. He basically donated all his proceeds, you know, when he, like, you beat the famous, you know, not seeing all this stuff,

Starting point is 00:10:41 to the US government and to the military. And you can all the finer details there, because I've read the story in years. And then the IRS came back and said, well, actually, you owe taxes on that gift to the troops and to all of this and to the military. And then how did him instead of you just stop being a Republican, we will drop all of this. And that shows how dirty the Democrats have been all on. If you can stay on that rub right there. So during the war, Louis Fodd 96 exhibition matches before more than 2 million troops. He also donated more than $100,000 to the Army and Navy relief efforts.

Starting point is 00:11:17 He reached the ranks of Sargent in 1945, the Legion of Merit for his contributions. Anyways, they came back to this guy. The story is a technical story. To back taxes. Yeah, to back taxes, to just silasim and say, just don't do anything. So my question is, okay, with him, back then, they had their reasons.

Starting point is 00:11:35 Why do you constantly find yourself getting in trouble? What is it about Alex Jones? Some will say, well, they're afraid of what Alex has to say because Alex has exposed in them. They just see what Alex did. Alex talked say, well, they're afraid of what Alex has to say, because Alex has exposed them. They just see what Alex did. Alex talked about 9.11 in July, and it happened four months later. How did he know that this was going to happen two months later? How did he know when he talked about in the video? How did he know about this? And how did he know about that? You know, some of the stories with the Skull and Bone Society you've talked about. The big

Starting point is 00:12:01 farm on the government, the cashless society, the government, surveillance, Epstein, high profile, you've talked about all that stuff. And some of the stuff would vaccine got you in trouble with, you know, Sandy Hook, with the pizza, with all these other things. But why do you think they are trying to do this to you? 2.75 trillion, when even a regular person hears it, they're like, this is ludicrous, ridiculous type of numbers. What do they fear the most with you? Well, I've made mistakes, and I've gotten some things wrong,

Starting point is 00:12:30 and I never did it on purpose. And then what they do is, it's like having a magnifying glass or a microscope at a grain of sand. It looks like a mountain when you look at it. So they blow up these things on my timeline, and what they did is that we now know what happened. They tried to censor

Starting point is 00:12:46 us and block us and stuff over the years. We broke a lot of big stories and a lot of great research. I've got a lot of great guests on and broke a lot of original important news. Our accuracy was way above 95%. And then Trump comes along and when we went to the RNC in Cleveland and about a third of the people that showed up in the streets, about, I'd say, about 50, 60,000 of the streets, that's outside the convention. We're all wearing info wars shirts and all those shone shirts because we had a lot of shirts going out.

Starting point is 00:13:12 We sold about 300, 400, 500,000 of just one shirt about Hillary for prison, but we sold it at cost for $5. And so there was, I'd say 10,000 Hillary for prison shirts there. And there were thousands inside. And so you've got all these reporters 10,000 Hillary for prison shirts there. And there were thousands inside. And so you've got all these reporters there. There's no counter demonstrators.

Starting point is 00:13:29 You pull up those shirts, Rob, so we can see what it looks like. Oh, I keep coming. And so all there was was, and then of course the news reported on this. They're like, there's a C of info or shirts and a C of Hillary for prison shirts. And then when when when Trump won, they'd already started the Russian investigation saying everybody was a Russian agent So now we know it's been declassified that they said I was a Russian agent Trump was a Russian agent It was all fake and then they were able to clear national security this came out in Congress three months ago and put the CIA on us So the CIA through law firms and through PR firms

Starting point is 00:14:01 They've now bragged after the cases about this. They had a big time magazine article about it and they had a, and then the PR firms, one of the largest in the country, just got bought by the biggest, they do the PR for the UN. After the judgements, they went, okay, we did, we're the geniuses, we're the best. We went and found something that made him look bad,

Starting point is 00:14:18 blew it up, had the media all reported and then make it hurtful to people, but it was them blowing it up. Then demonize me, say that I was Trump's right hand man to demonize Trump, and then basically set the precedent that if they could take me down, they could then take everybody else down that if folks allowed me to be taken down, they also mentioned Julian Assange in the documents. If they could shut me him down and have the left agree with it and have the right agree

Starting point is 00:14:39 with me being shut down, it would set the precedent to knock down all the dominos. So I was chosen just as the archetype of see it's good we're gonna censor him. And then as soon as they were done with me, they moved on to everybody else. And so I was just chosen as the test pilot for this. Alex, upbringing, let's go back to 10 years old, 12 years old, everybody has an influence, right? For me, my mother's family, they were all communists,

Starting point is 00:15:00 my dad's family, they were imperialists. For you to be this much of a true believer, what was the conversations like at the kitchen table with mom and dad? What did you guys talk about? Well, there was full mobilization in the Cold War across the country, but particularly places like Texas and the South.

Starting point is 00:15:17 And so, I mean, I would go to family reunions and it was like a soldier of fortune convention. And so a lot of the family had been, obviously in World War II, Korean of Vietnam, and a lot of them had been operatives in the CIA, things like that. But to me, you're a kid, and when the family reunion's going on,

Starting point is 00:15:36 I'm just getting on a four-wheeler and taking a shotgun off and shooting birds. I'm not hanging out with all these old men. And then a lot of family on my dad's side that had done stuff for the government in operations, not just around the world, but here. And because back then it was all human intelligence. By the 90s, it went to digital stuff. But before that, you had to have a lot of muscle on the ground, a lot of people. People that don't know the army, you know, all over the world, but also in the US, you go around and you know, kill people. It was like extrajudicial. Senators would sign off on

Starting point is 00:16:04 letters. And they would, and they'd send, usually army officers off to kill people. It was like extrajudicial centers would sign off on letters. And they would, and they'd send, usually army officers off to kill people. So like when you see the movie, well, what's that movie with all the great actors? Apocalypse Now, where they have the army captain and then they're sending to kill Colonel Kurtz. That's a fictional story, but that's actually how it works.

Starting point is 00:16:21 The biggest hitman group in the United States or the world would be like army officers. like like Othie Italian mafia's got a hundred hitman of all they've got 10,000 in. So, and then my, I had, when my dad had a guy called, like his uncle was released to cousin 10 years older than Ludicol Street. And he only told my dad about this later and stuff, but that was one of his jobs. And then my mom's brother I've been an army officer and he was involved in Iran Contra and a bunch of black ops, but that was one of his jobs. And then my mom's brother, I've been an army officer and he was involved in Iran Contra and a bunch of black ops. But he was involved in like, being in charge of things, building airfields in Central South America. And so he was the

Starting point is 00:16:54 one that really told me about all this stuff. And then, and then my dad had got recruited into the academic arm of this stuff. And it was, it was like above the CIA in like plan two at University of Texas. He was like 14, 15. He was already going to University of Texas because he was winning all these awards and had top, you know, perfect score. And his mom thought he was going to when he was like 14 to get to take tests to be in NASA in this and Eisenhower's WizKid program. But it wasn't Eisen, it wasn't a WizKid program to be in NASA. And so, my dad got into that for a while. He never told me what he did.

Starting point is 00:17:28 And then he decided to get out of it and just be a doctor at a certain point. But the house was just full of all this is a big, new, Przenzky books and Henry Kissinger stuff and just world politics and, you know, just military manuals and just stuff everywhere. And my dad was always voracious to reading. And so I just grew up basically around all this stuff. And it was particularly my mom's brother

Starting point is 00:17:51 who died about nine years ago, a really smart guy who got out of it. And then when he was dying of pneumonia, last time I saw him, I thought he was going to live and he was dead a week later. He just said, well, I want you to know the stuff about them, get him to the moon. And the last time I saw him, I thought he was going to live, and he was dead a week later. He just said, well, I want you to know, the stuff about them trafficking kids is true. And that's why I got out of what I was doing in Central America because they were smuggling kids out of orphanages and doing terrible things

Starting point is 00:18:16 with them and we just knew about it. This is your mom's brother, my mom's brother. And of course, remember, this is nine years ago before all the migrant crisis, the kids and the current smuggling, he was seeing it down there. And he said he and a bunch of his guys got out of it. Some of the guys he was with, the government killed. And what was his back there, Uncle? He was a helicopter pilot in Vietnam

Starting point is 00:18:34 and mainly delivered special forces troops into Laos and bus buses. And he worked for him. You know, my mom is like me telling this stuff because he told her about it, didn't tell me. And she says he was embarrassing the family, but you know, he, I mean, he was doing everything's told me a nomin. It was, it was smuggling.

Starting point is 00:18:50 You're, I hope you're, your mom and dad, when, when they saw you, when you first got into, you've been in the space of, in four wars in which you've been known for how long, 30 years, 28 years, 25 years, 29 years, 29 years. Okay. So when you first got in, it was 20 years old. You were 20 years old. Okay, so when you first got in, it was 20 years old. You were 20 years old. Okay, so what was their initial reaction to it? What's it like Alex? What are you doing? And it was a we believe in you We agree with you. You're talking too much that relax. This is you going overboard. What was their reaction to this when you first got started?

Starting point is 00:19:20 My dad for the first five six seven years was just sometimes say you need to be careful what you're doing and You're you get killed doing this. He said one time. He said I can have you talk to some people and get you out of this right now But he's and I said the government's bad. He said they are bad. They got to do bad things to protect this country They're in charge because they're smart and and they're smarter than us What a thing to say and and yeah, they got to do bad things to protect the country. Yeah And and well, you know, cause there's bad guys, so we have to, we have to get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:48 And we have to fill the place of the bad guys so they don't control that space. Okay, you have to, we got to fill the space of the bad guys so they don't control that space. Yes, that's all the big to present key, Harvard, you know, Straussian, Injustifies the main stuff. This is the really the philosophy of that,

Starting point is 00:20:03 but they're really the bad guys. And then about six years into it, my dad came and apologized. He said, no, you're right. And then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then,

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Starting point is 00:20:38 makes it 1996 is it is it fair to see started in 1994? Okay, so And Wikipedia is all wrong. We're 29 years ago Wikipedia is all wrong. It says info was started in 2019 that's just the way the internet registers that once I transferred it started in 1997 I got the website perfect so 1994 you get started six years later your data saying you're right is this pre Usain what's gonna happen to the towers or what's going to happen, there's an attack that's going to happen in July, was it pre-that event or did your dad say I agree with what you're doing post that event? Now he said he agreed with me right before that.

Starting point is 00:21:14 So pre-9-11 he agreed with you. Yes. And then what did he say to you after 9-11 when you're like that? This is what's going to happen. I'm assuming you're talking to your mom and dad and I'm like, I look sure about this, you just made it. That's a pretty outlandish claim you're making. And then boom, 9-11 happens, what steady-mediate conversation like? And the reason why I want to focus on parents is because my influence is my mom and dad. So it's kind of like there's, as you're, as you're making these

Starting point is 00:21:38 types of claims, and let's just say you're on a crusade. I think you, in your mind, you think you're on a crusade, right? That's what I've said. you can't trust a lot of people. There's only a few people you can trust. They can let your guards down and just talk to them. I would assume your mom and that are in that, in that, oh yeah, they were always good people. They weren't villains. And, but my mom, you know, you know, has a, you know, a great history. They were just always into this stuff and they believed in America. And it's like a naiveness that, well, we do some bad things because, you know, we've got to, you know, beat the bad guys.

Starting point is 00:22:09 So there were more from the standpoint of Alex, you've got a million other things you can do, you're smart, why are you doing this? This is not the life you want to live. Is it kind of like that message or no? It was, it was, we don't want you to get killed. I mean, they knew, they knew, they're like, look, you're young

Starting point is 00:22:24 and, and the other system's bad. People try to work in it to fix it and you need to be really, I mean, it was mainly, you just need to be careful. I mean, what was the first claim you made where the first first one where people are like, oh shit, this guy's up to something. That was kind of weird.

Starting point is 00:22:41 What's he talking about? What's the first thing you said that became a reality that at first everybody fought you on it because we have this one if you can play this one here this is July 25th of 2001 okay who's family builds all the military there you go I'd threat like a bin Laden who was a known CIA at the 80s running the Mujahideen war who's family builds all the military bases over in Saudi Arabia right now and sits on the board of iridium satellite. He's the boogie man they need in this or wellie and phony system. A big part of this solution

Starting point is 00:23:15 after you research all the government terrorism and check out what I'm saying is true. Call the White House and tell them we know the government's planning terrorism. We know Oklahoma City and World Trade Center was terrorism we know the joint issue staff wanted to blow up airliners Baltimore Sun if you do it we're gonna blame you because we know who's up to it or if you let some terrorist group do it like the world trade center we know who to blame and if there was an outside threat like a bin Laden who was a known CIA at the 80s so you say this pre-it going national.

Starting point is 00:23:47 And by the way, I did a two and a half hour show that that people only have that clip. It's in one of my documentaries. I need to find it and re upload it to the web because when they took my, not my YouTube, it all got erased. That's a copy of a copy of copy. I did two and a half hours specifically saying they're going to blow up the world trade center. Call the White House.

Starting point is 00:24:01 Tell them, don't blow up the world trade center. So I'll find that full clip this week, cause it needs to go up and I'll put it back up. Yeah, and by the way, we have your permission to use your clips. And then you want all free time. So, okay, so when you did that, what is the reaction from that to 910?

Starting point is 00:24:17 Like, pre, we're like, what are you talking about? That this is gonna be happening? You must be losing your mind. Like, what was the reaction people gave when you first said that? Well, it's funny. I mean, I already had a local radio show in 2001, and I've been fired off local radio,

Starting point is 00:24:32 so I was doing it out of my house, but it was actually on satellite and on probably 100 stations by then, but this is pre-YouTube. So if I wanted to be on TV, I'd use a studio as a local access station. So that's a 2 and a half hour live show I did one night You know a few months before 9-11

Starting point is 00:24:50 And what was the question? No, what I'm trying to say is between this when you make that claim I'm a question I'm a free 9-11 during that two month period What's the reaction from people to you and then right after 9-11 happens? What do people say about you? Sure what happens? I was kind of going back to my memory and then trying to find exactly, and that's why I was just kind of tracing back to the point because then once I remember, one thing I remember the rest.

Starting point is 00:25:10 This is a crazy story. Okay, so I would do live shows once a week there, but we turn a tape in that they'd air like 10 more times on average. So I shot this live, turned the tape in at Access TV, and on the night of 9.11, the two and a half hour show aired. And I got death threats or anything else because they thought I was saying that day

Starting point is 00:25:32 that the government had done it. When I was saying July 25th, but later, the date came up, people figured it out, so people were completely freaked out. They didn't know what was going on. A little bit after this happened, they sent some FBI agents in like it's playing close to the access station when I was there,

Starting point is 00:25:50 trying to talk to me and stuff and ask me questions. And hey, we know about terrorists. What do you think about like teams or teams of people? And I'm thinking, oh, you're an FBI agent. I don't know what you mean teams. They were trying to imply like I had terror teams or something. I guess this struck a nerve.

Starting point is 00:26:05 So they sent in a couple FBI agents. But and I was on my radio show, we oughta find the archives of that saying, they're gonna do it because I can see the pre-programming where they're saying, terrorists are about to hit and when the terrorists hit, you gotta give up all your rights. And we're gonna have troops on the streets and blah, blah, blah.

Starting point is 00:26:23 And I saw a couple of globalists, Gary Hart and one other guy on CNN. And this is right for one on Aaron did this. And they were basically saying, life's about to change. The world's about to be completely different. We're gonna have to take your rights away. Terrorist are about to hit. And I saw articles in the local paper saying that. I saw the pre-programming like a rollout was happening.

Starting point is 00:26:48 And I knew that Islamists had hit the towers. In 1992, it was a real attack, but the FBI had cooked the bomb, allowed them to do it, protected them, blocked the Monsalam, the Egyptian... Is this proven? It's all came out, yeah. And I read the Monsalam. Can you pull that up?

Starting point is 00:27:04 Go ahead, keep going type in a mod salon Recordings World Trade Center bombing and and and so he gave a press conference where he recorded the FBI telling him No, we're not the bombing go ahead because he thought they were trying to set him up and then they did go forward So it's already knew about this had a lot of data and a lot of information Feeding into I thought they would go back and try to bring down the World Trade Center a second time because in criminology that's what happens. And they did have people on airplanes and they were Islamists, but it turns out they were CIA with double passports and were being protected.

Starting point is 00:27:38 They thought they were taking part in a hijacking drill that day. And then what really happened is they nerve gasped the people on the planes from the best info we have, then remote control them into the towers. And then another one was supposed to hit the Pentagon, but people, despite the fact that they have the the sturdest recordings, where they're saying, I can't breathe, I can't breathe, there's gas. That's what's really happening again.

Starting point is 00:27:58 But before they could do that, a F-16 put, and that's in the FAA recordings, put two AIM-9s into it and shot it down over Pennsylvania. Yeah, I was in the United States Air Force while all that was happening and I was on the shooting team and two days before the competition, one of my sergeants and I'm not going to say his name was like, hey, well, Sean, I cause I was the best shooter Alex. He's like, the competition's canceled and I was like, what do you hot?

Starting point is 00:28:21 Why? 9-11 happens and then we were warned. Rumsfeld went on, went in front of the White House and he was like, something's happening where terrorism, he kind of warned us, kind of leads a race, warned the mayor of, was a Chicago, don't fly to New York this day. And then you nailed it Alex,

Starting point is 00:28:36 when you were talking about Osama bin Laden, every flight in the entire United States was grounded. There was a couple of F-16s circling the only commercial flights that were left from here, Flutoranstein, Germany, and Osama bin Laden's entire family. They flew them all out. That was on local Miami news. They flew them out of here. Yeah. 100% or just north of here. So, and that is video on it. And, but it gets worse. One of the thing is there's thousands of pieces of data. They didn't find one. They found two

Starting point is 00:29:02 hijackers passports unburned in that whole explosion. So you got 10 feet of dust everywhere. Billions of papers, but those get found the next day. Believe that. So, it goes on for days. But I interviewed the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff right before he died about this and a bunch of other people. And they told me before it came out a few years later,

Starting point is 00:29:25 that all the top generals were supposed to go to New York that day for a big meeting. They got told not to go and remember the Pentagon asked infregard leaders a month before, about two weeks before, he pulled these up articles. That's all the corporate executives, you know, get approached by part of Homeland Security

Starting point is 00:29:44 before they announced that name and infrastructure protection and the whole shadow government program. They flew them to Offit Air Force Base. Was that the one that, it's just a memory, it's ancient history. They flew them all to an Air Force Base and had them in a hangar when the attack was happening and closed the doors and gave them some secret briefing. Look up, uh, uh, uh, business leaders, billionaires, uh, flown to Air Force Base, the 9-11, it's, it's all up there. And this is such ancient hedge traffic on over the same years. I should write a book on 9-11 and go back over it all. I mean, it is just insane. If you can break down all the conspiracy theories regarding 9-11, true, false this, that the other, and if you can break it down to the lowest common denominator

Starting point is 00:30:23 of who was involved the motivation what actually happened What transpired more than meets the eye? How would you break that down in as few words as possible? Well, what we have is perception management going on and so there's submarine thing the Titan and the Titanic all of this is Is a great window into this. I don't know what really happened there. We know we're being lied to we know the Navy and the Coast Guard have incredible sonar. That area in the Atlantic is heavily covered because there's nuclear submarine stuff. And they know the signature of an imploding vessel. It's been studied heavily.

Starting point is 00:30:55 And they also know the sound of hitting the bottom. I mean, they can hear somebody thumping on the side of a submarine of 3,000 miles away. And they've got signatures. This is the, there's been hundreds of billions of dollars put into these acoustic sonar systems, other things. And they've got even more advanced stuff like that. The deals with these giant antennas,

Starting point is 00:31:14 they've got strung out that are sending waves to the earth, it's beyond sonar, that pick all this stuff up, but it's insane. And so they knew exactly when it imploded, they knew they were dead. They knew about the wreckage. And the commander said, we reported it. It's on our job, talk to the media,

Starting point is 00:31:28 and they decided not to tell you. And so they just decided to leave it out there to distraction with all the 100 Biden stuff coming out. Just like they indicted Trump, Jack Smith did the day, the last big trunch of 100 Biden stuff came out. So don't let a good crisis go to waste. Were they in the submarine?

Starting point is 00:31:44 They really die? I mean, we get lied to so much who knows? And am I gonna get sued for two point, or two point seven five trillion? I mean, all I know is I'm saying I've been lied to so much, I don't know, but I know this. My phone blew up, my text messages, I've never been asked in a short period of time,

Starting point is 00:31:59 so many times since Monday. What do you think really happened with the submarine? And that shows people don't buy it. And almost everybody says, I don't think anybody was on it. Or I think they knew they were already dead. I was here in this on Monday. And oh, they're already dead. They know they're dead. They're just going to have this like the boy in the well. So everybody focuses on it. And I'm like, I don't know. So I didn't comment until Friday because what I've learned is they spin when I just question and war game something and then say, look, he says nobody died and they'll go

Starting point is 00:32:29 to the widow. One of the submarine guys go, look, he's up there making money saying nobody died. And then they'll, I mean, literally that's the model. But what's happening is the public doesn't believe any of it. Almost no one I talked to, like no one believes it. So you ask your question is, you know, what's the biggest thing we expose or how does this mind control work?

Starting point is 00:32:47 I think we're coming out of it. We have a discredited corporate media, we have a discredited government that's been hijacked. The public's really ending their naibete and figuring out they've been lied to and beginning the journey of discovering what's happening. And I think popular podcasts and shows like yours that are really, I think middle of the road,

Starting point is 00:33:05 but are actually just looking at the facts are gonna lead the way out of this as the new media is now the mainstream media. I mean, your show's bigger than most of the shows on cable. Joe Rogan's show, I think something like 50 times bigger than a CNN show. You know, 15 times bigger than a Fox show. And, but why do we still call it the mainstream media?

Starting point is 00:33:24 Why do we still sit, the artists' ruptures that sit there and use psychological warfare to manipulate us? And so it's very healthy that people don't believe anything at all. That's your right, especially when you've been lied to so much. If I had a neighbor that lied to me once,

Starting point is 00:33:39 I'd think they were weird. They lied to me twice. I'm not gonna talk to them anymore. At least people have been lying to us, caught and then laugh about it. How funny it is. I mean, take James O'Keef last year. This is about a year and a half ago.

Starting point is 00:33:51 This is a full year before they totally shut it down. Well, we're gonna end the whole COVID thing and stop hyping that for now. And we're gonna be all global warming and lockdowns and energy shortages and collapsing stuff. And, you know, just the end of civilization, end of the world. And then like a light switch, a few months later, all the media on the same day gets the

Starting point is 00:34:10 new script and shifts to that. Well, that's the dinosaur media and the only power they have is getting us to kind of debate what they're saying and doing when at a certain point you realize it's just all crap. And that's happened. The average CNN show has like 80,000 viewers. The Fox has lost half their viewers at least. They're down from an average of two million viewers like less than a million. They're all committing suicide.

Starting point is 00:34:34 You see, Anne Houser Bush committing suicide. But then Madelo Smart, we wanna celebrate Sports Heroes and icons and war veterans and families and heritage and then like, it's not just a Spanish going on on by the baritone white people they go yeah we want to celebrate heritage too. I mean we just we we want to crack a beer and think about you know our country and our mothers and fathers and sisters and brothers and children how we're good people and how we want to be

Starting point is 00:34:57 successful. We want to hear about a boxer or a swimmer or a firefighter of the safe kids. We don't want to see some clown hop around the dress and we're sick of the demoralization. So their attempt to demoralize us, it's not demoralizing us now, it's causing the great awakening. So, you know, when you're saying that, here's how I process it. So take somebody that's watching this and saying,

Starting point is 00:35:15 I cannot believe these guys are hosting Alex Jones. This guy's the platform from everywhere, Twitter, even Elon Musk doesn't have Alex Jones, which I'm gonna ask you about that as well on why in a minute. But so, so there are the people that 100% agree with you, their love on what you're saying. Like, oh, this is awesome. Great. Keep going it.

Starting point is 00:35:33 And then there's a people in the middle, like, yeah, kind of, let me, you know, kind of make sense. And then people on the one side that you're not gonna win anyways. I just want to talk to the people in the middle. Forget about either side. I want to talk to the people in the middle. So if you're like me as a Middle Eastern Alex, I'm naturally super skeptical. I'm a paranoid guy. I don't trust a lot of people. I'm kind of like, what's the guys motive, etc., etc.

Starting point is 00:35:56 But here's the part, Rob. We've shown this before. Here's public's trust in the US government from 58 to today. It's the lowest it's been. Look at the numbers right there I mean I think the lowest it was under Obama if you look at it there and and now From there kept going kept going kept going it has an increase now go to the public trust in Mainstream media, which is even worse. We were all the way up at you know 75% in 1976 give or take and it is gradually declined all the way up at, you know, 75% in 1976, give or take. And it is gradually declined all the way down to 34%. So it's not.

Starting point is 00:36:30 And by the way, I've looked at these big national polls. They're still sampling more mainline people. So from the numbers I've seen and what they internally have, they can do with these algorithms, it's way worse. Congress is more like 5% and the media. Trust in Congress. Yes, and you pulled that up, right?

Starting point is 00:36:44 And the media is nine. And by the way, these numbers are from Gall Congress. Yes, and you pull that up, and the media is nine And by the way, these numbers are from Gallup. These is not exactly some random way I think it's gallop though is is is is is from what we've seen is is it's worse than what's what they're saying But here's a part though even with Gallup for Gallup to show 277 27% America's I've come to our institute failing.. Okay, so what's the key word there that we're not trusting? Institutions, establishment, okay?

Starting point is 00:37:11 Like people are wondering, and nowadays, even college education, is it even worth for me to go to college? What am I gonna go to college for? And that's why they wanna watch a new show, check what it's saying, and then they basically night that as the new show, like yours, or Joe Rogan, because they trust you.

Starting point is 00:37:28 Does that make sense? So they've committed suicide, and they think destroying us will make them be risen from the dead. They could take us all out, new people will pop right back. I think what people want is to listen to other skeptical people. I think Joe skeptical. I don't look at Joe, and I'm like, you know, Joe's a guy that's fully trying to push an agenda. I think Joe's at Joe and I'm like, you know, Joe's, you know, a guy that's

Starting point is 00:37:45 fully trying to push an agenda. I think Joe's center's in, guys, I don't know what's going on here. I'm going through the problem. The way he opened up. He's skeptical and he is curious. I love the way he's very curious. I love the way he opened up the RFK interview, where he's, I'm not going to lie to you for the last five years, you know, when I would watch him, sometimes the sky's a cook, this guy says, I'm like, okay, probably not. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, wait a minute, some of the stuff he's saying is true. And then I read the book and I'm like, holy shit. And then we ran into each other at the, it's funny, the same restaurant we were at, it was myself, him and RFK,

Starting point is 00:38:14 Casa de Angelo, we have to give a shout out to Casa de Angelo, Aspen, we were just a day part, we were all, you're running, you're running all the time, same time. So, so that's how they connected, like, hey, I wanna get you on the podcast. And then obviously when he did the podcast, he pissed off everybody, Dr. Holtes, all these things. Anyways, what I do want to do is this

Starting point is 00:38:31 before we go into the next one. Rob, can you pull up the next thing here with the Tucker Carlson video he had? I want to say it's in March or something like that when he said this. Again, this was a couple months before it happened. Rob, you had it just a minute ago, you had it. And it's like how hotels won't debate.

Starting point is 00:38:50 Look at Kirby and all of them running off the stage. They're running. They're running. That's when you're fleeing. That's when you've been routed in a war. Yeah, but folks like Madi Hassan are saying he shouldn't debate. You know, time magazine, he shouldn't debate. They said, he said in science, we don't

Starting point is 00:39:05 debate. Yeah, exactly. I was saying, in boxing, we don't, we don't fight. Fight. Yeah. So play this clip. This, this is when Rob, can you, can you for sure to date? This is March of this year, right? We're talking March of this, your March 8th of this year. This is you. Okay. If you can play this. He gets what's going on. He's not going back. He believes in the people. And so I predict he won't be at Fox News in the near future. If he's not able to put this out, I'm going to leave it at that.

Starting point is 00:39:34 But that's speaking from my perspective, I'm not speaking for Tucker. Why? What was your reasoning for say now? Why'd you say Tucker's not going to be at Fox Long? Obviously two months later, he's not and there's a there's a few there, but why did you say that? Well, because they'll attribute things to Tucker because they know we talk some and hang out some. He's on the other side of Florida over in Naples.

Starting point is 00:39:56 Yeah, he's a Boca Grande or whatever. And so we hung out on Thanksgiving last year, but he used to think I was full of it. And then he kind of woke up, a lot of stuff came into business. He like 10, 11, 12 years ago, we came friends hung out. And then he still thought I was kind of crazy and then he learned more and more isn't went along. And so I had called him, I think we talked like the day before that or something. I don't remember exactly. And I said, listen,

Starting point is 00:40:21 all the things you're doing are, are they're going to let you go. I said, there's no way that and we had a private conversation about that. And he he didn't see it coming. And I said, well, I just really think you should do your own thing when this goes down. And I said, because we already talked about this, some of Thanksgiving and the infrastructure and the pit of things, the future. And he's kind of sticking his toe in that. And then I said, okay, well, I predict you're going to be gone within a month. I said, I smell it. structured and the pitted things the future and he's kind of you know sticking his toe in that and

Starting point is 00:40:49 Then I said okay, well, I predict you're gonna be gone within a month. I said I smell it I just it's not even like me psychic I get all this data and all I do is immerse myself You call the Holy Spirit whatever you want, but it's like boom then I see something like I saw the world traits in her Towers on fire. I saw I saw all the trips in the streets and I could just see all the programming because you can just see how they're getting you ready for it. And like you said when you're in the military, the straight on you, hey, terrorism's about to happen. Get ready boys. Get ready boys. Well, they were doing that. I mean, like, get ready. The terrorists are about to hit us and your life's going to change. It's not that hard. You go, okay, what are they going to hit? What are they programming? And then they had, they just had a lone gunman show where they flew a

Starting point is 00:41:24 jumbo jet hijacked into the World Trade Center to blame a Middle Eastern terrorist who invaded Afghanistan. Now I said, at the time, I said, see, they're going to attack the World Trade Center. That's another reason. Later Chris Carter contacts me and says, yes, that's true. The CIA contacted me. They do this routinely and they basically wrote that script nine months before 9-11 and then he produces it either six months before.

Starting point is 00:41:52 It was the lone gum and spin off. And then he based the 2016 series on me. That's interview. He said that. I'm trying to brag. It's crazy. The old talk shows. It was going to be in right at the end.

Starting point is 00:42:04 And that's the reason they came after me because they're like, this guy's getting too popular even with the thicker people that don't control. So the C.I. came to Carter and said, we want you to put this out. And then you notice this 2016 show is all about a vaccine that has a system in it that basically destroys your immune system. And so they have some reason to pre-program us.

Starting point is 00:42:23 And I don't think Carter is with them. I think he figured out, he thought he was just helping. He realizes now he was like programming the subconscious for something. This is very sophisticated. You have your conscious, you have your unconscious, and you have your subconscious. Or you have your conscience,

Starting point is 00:42:39 and you have your subconscious, and you have the unconscious. And so they're directly trying to talk to the unconscious. And that's thousands of times more powerful, they believe than the conscious. And hundreds of times more than the unconscious. And so they're, they're, they're directly trying to talk to the unconscious. And that's thousands of times more powerful they believe than the conscious. And hundreds of times more than the unconscious. Why do you think they let Tucker go? Why do you think specifically on the Fox? Well, actually know why.

Starting point is 00:42:53 Okay. Well, they were already planning to do it. And then let's just say this, the vanity fair article or the Hollywood reporter, I forget, which one was the one that, that Rupert Marnock was upset by his fiancee being Christian. Oh yeah, I remember reading that where Tucker was talking about God a lot in that speech and that it pissed him off because Rupert Marnock is an atheist. Well, and the night really pissed off. Panity fair. Well, Janifer. And so, and so the night the night he, they pulled the trigger

Starting point is 00:43:22 was when he gave that heritage foundation speech He said look God's real you the pray to God at least five to minutes a equals real And you need to get God you need to get God right now Tucker said that Tucker did that last speech Yeah, at the heritage foundation and then Murdoch called the head of Fox said I want him fired and I want him fired Monday morning Don't tell him until We put the press release out simultaneously so they calling get him on the phone say't tell him until we put the press release out simultaneously. So they calling, get him on the phone, say you're fired, and then put the press release out, hang up on it.

Starting point is 00:43:50 Alex, how do you know this? And then they won't tell him. How do you know this? Is it because people from... I can't give sources. No, I'm not giving names. I'm not giving names. All of my things.

Starting point is 00:43:58 When my sources are so good that I even had Tucker's guys like, come on Alex, don't tell everybody everything. And I didn't even get it from Tucker. I got some of it. At the point is I know everything. Okay, somebody, I got stuff so incredible to blow you away, but I can't tell you. It's pretty amazing.

Starting point is 00:44:10 This is all, from my perspective, this is what I hear. What I'm getting is I have a different source. My source is the amount of people that have reached out that want to come join our organization. And we're not even a big media company. We're barely getting started. We're a small little media company here in South Florida.

Starting point is 00:44:29 And we're been, but the amount of people that are saying, Hey, are you looking for talent? We heard you're looking for talent. We don't want to be here long to some of the stuff that's going on the inside that Fox is not something that's possible. Fox is falling apart. I mean, Tucker obviously is formerly producer

Starting point is 00:44:41 that put up the thing that Biden is a sparring dictator. That was his last straw knowing they'd fire him. He's going, they're all going to join Tucker. He's built it. I'm in a rep, sorry, I'm telling you what's going on. No, no, all I'm saying is we get the call on people. So you're saying Tucker's planning on build on a media company.

Starting point is 00:44:56 Or on Twitter. I think that's obvious. Okay. I mean, yes. Here's the thing, I don't want to give anything out of confidence. And so I've learned, I've got Fox sources, I've got other sources, I've talked to people. And I mean, yes, here's the thing, I don't wanna give anything out of confidence. And so I've learned, I've got Fox sources, I've got other sources, I've talked to people,

Starting point is 00:45:08 and I mean, that's obvious, that's what he's gonna do. I mean, in his first new show that got a hundred and whatever million views, he said, I plan to do monologues and then more things after that. So yes, what you saw with this Fox nation thing, but done right, is what he's planning. That's all, the thing is, people say things are classified of their secret, real intelligence is what's right

Starting point is 00:45:26 in front of you. So Tucker has said he's gonna do all this. And so then I do know some of the things he's planning, but I'm not gonna repeat that. I can just tell you what I can with human intelligence C is going on. But yes, Fox is actually lost 50 plus percent of its main viewers, it's like 65% of their key demo. Basically, they committed

Starting point is 00:45:46 suicide, again, just like all these other leftist companies, because they're planning something big. And I don't think they care of the central banks with the ESG's to give them unlimited money to prop them up later. That's why these companies follow them themselves to lose 24 billion at Target, or you know, 15 billion in Anhazard Bush, follow them themselves to do this is because they're planning something so big and things are gonna be shook up so bad that none of this is gonna be here anymore. And then that leads us to the Russia situation.

Starting point is 00:46:11 Who are some of the guys you're seeing right now that are either in the process of being the next tuckers or are in the camp of a tucker that they're pushing the envelope, they're challenging the establishment. Who else would you put? Obviously, not at Tucker's level. Tucker's a guy that's the MJ industry today. Who else you see is coming up?

Starting point is 00:46:33 Whatever different places they are, are there any other names that you're seeing that's going under the direction that Tucker's going? For example, when we used to watch Tucker back in the days with Crossfire and he's doing what he's doing with John Stewart and John Stewart's trying to punk him and you see how Tucker stood up to him, you know, and and Challengerman and look he he went from being who he was back then and the bow tie to not being the Tucker of Nobody's getting the kind of eyeballs. He's getting so who won at the end of the day Tucker won from going You know John. That's a Tucker is a genuinely nice guy

Starting point is 00:47:01 But he's also a big guy and really smart and he has a temper So the point is that them messing with him and stuff made him go for being a Mr. Nice guy. I know more Mr. Nice guy. And now he's really no more Mr. Nice guy. So, uh, yeah, I don't think anybody's in his class for me. I will do interviews or think on his feet or do a great monologue. He writes all that himself.

Starting point is 00:47:20 He's a great writer, great researcher. And then I think Joe Rogan just goes to his curiosity. And because of his, you of his being skeptical, obviously he's just gonna continue to get bigger. I mean, I think people like yourself, I mean, I've seen your show exponentially grow. It's always been popular, but I see it everywhere now. It's obviously exploding.

Starting point is 00:47:40 What do you think? I guess the question I was more asking is guys from mainstream media, not the podcast guys. Like who at Fox do you see? Do you like what Brett does? Do you like what some of the guys at Megan Kelly's doing?

Starting point is 00:47:57 Obviously Megan Kelly's at a different place. Who are some of the names that you're saying? And Megan's already, she's one the best. I'm talking about some of the people at Fox that you're saying that guy maybe won't be at Fox too long himself. Is there anyone at Fox that you're thinking? Oh, I get your question.

Starting point is 00:48:12 No, I don't think anybody's in Tucker's league. I don't think any of those people all just have producers. We try to break stories, they try to chase stories and Fox is basically a sinking ship. And so I do think a lot of them are going to leave and be successful in whatever type of programs they do. But at the same time, look, everything is going to be either your populous anti-new world order or your globalist suck up. And so that's yet everything's going to go towards, you know, are you going to sit there and buy the BS of Neil's deGrasse Tyson when he just tells you stuff

Starting point is 00:48:46 that's completely untrue? And he just said, science, science, science, science, or like, well, show me, science. And so he's like, you know, I have a pink Lamborghini outside. Well, show me, no science, you don't question that. You know, I say it's gonna be 400 degrees outside tomorrow. Well, show me the facts, no science. Well, it was all tested, all the,

Starting point is 00:49:02 these drugs were all approved, no, they weren't. They were brought on market and then approved. And emergency deal. That's totally separate. Never before done. He's just no. It was all approved, massive testing. We've never done more studying in our entire universe

Starting point is 00:49:13 as we've done on these shots. These are safe, effective, pure, clean, wonderful. And not one word of that's true. I mean, remember the first year it was an open piece of paper when you opened up the vaccine ampule by law. That's being there. And it just said the name of the company. not one thing that was in it because it was none of it was approved.

Starting point is 00:49:28 Emergency authorization. And then they did quote studies and suppress those studies. And that's all the fact and they don't want you to be able to say that. Anybody could look at what I just said. So it's going to be, are you going to sit there and take the establishments money and tell people that there's, you know, that, that, that, that there's ice water in hell. Or are you going to try to figure out what's going on? So everything is to be the quest for legitimacy,

Starting point is 00:49:49 the quest for curiosity and the quest of skepticism, and if you're not skeptical in this environment, you're an idiot. We have gotten in this situation because we've not been skeptical, and if you go to places like Russia, or the Middle East, or places that have had, the term will more recently,

Starting point is 00:50:03 people are skeptical or they're dead. And so you either get skeptical and get your head in the more recently, people are skeptical or they're dead. And so you either get skeptical and get your head in the game and learn how stuff works are your dead. We've had it so good in this country where the best house in a bad neighborhood, we've had it so good in this country for at least 150 years, okay? And this place has been a wonderland

Starting point is 00:50:18 compared to most other countries. And so people now have grown up off our grandparents and off their grandparents, the average American, and have no idea how good we've had it, and the fact that God is lowering the defense shield now, because we have stopped being good moral people, and now tyranny's flooding in,

Starting point is 00:50:34 and we better find God and find skepticism, and find rugged individualism, and find the will to stand up and have courage, or we'll lose everything. People always say, oh, you've got courage to fight them. I'm trying to get out of like walls closing in on my family and my country in the world. It's not courage to be trying to get out of this thing.

Starting point is 00:50:52 You take the cheesy Star Wars analogy where they're in the trash compact, and it's gonna kill them. Do they have courage trying to get out of there? No, they're fighting for their lives. If somebody tied bowling balls to my legs and threw me in the deep end, and I'm fighting trying to climb away up out of there,

Starting point is 00:51:04 it's not courage, it's the opposite, it's self to claw my way up out of there. It's not courage. It's the opposite. It's self preservation. So people might understand it's not courage. Okay, it's the courage to save yourself, which is encouraged at all in my view. So Alex, it's obviously a pattern when it comes to people that are exposing the truth,

Starting point is 00:51:18 the elites and everything. You, Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, Andrew Tate, RFK, people, me and me personally is there a light at the end of the tunnel like is our is there a chance for us to win or we fighting a losing battle because Alex they have set up the pieces to this game that we're playing in. Is there a light like with people like this that you have this passion the truth is coming out but is it all for nothing there is a lot of the on the tunnel. You know, they've gone and dug up those temples of Ramsey's the second, 3000 plus years ago, more than that with Moses. So what you see in the

Starting point is 00:51:51 10 Commandments, I mean, that was real people, real stuff went on. People can question the so you know, the biblical story of they want, but you know, Moses existed, Ramsey's the second existed, all that went on, you're saying, what's that through with what I asked? The Israelites had to stop doing what they were told caused not Everybody seen that mean that shows like five burn matches and then one match and it says you know non-compliance Yeah, I'm not conformity and then all the other matches aren't burned You can stop the chain reaction and so finally after you know with decades or whatever it was of the Jews Shaking were done being your slaves They okay, pack your stuff up and go.

Starting point is 00:52:27 Okay. And the desert was rough and it was tough and they went through a lot of hell, then they built their own thing. And so look how you built your own thing. They established what became corrupt. The mainstream media lie does. It committed sapaku, it committed suicide. Now we're building a new system.

Starting point is 00:52:42 The homage 400 years ago were Protestants. They were being persecuted in Switzerland and Germany. So they packed up, sold everything, and moved here. And still today, they don't have autism, they don't have any of this stuff, they don't have suicide rates. They're living the dream, because they don't hang out with Big Pharma.

Starting point is 00:52:57 And so we don't have to do what the homage have done, but we have to be in the world, but not of the world, to use the Christian allegory. And we have to build our own systems, build our own companies. Instead of a boycott, which is great against Anisor butchered target, we need a by-cott. And when we start, and that's what ESGs are, is they've analyzed all this.

Starting point is 00:53:15 They know the by-cott, by populists, by Christians, by conservatives, by people that just want to be capitalist and live normal and be able to defend ourselves and create wealth. When you do anything we want. Humans are incredible. Instead of being ruled by these globalists that want us poor so they can dictate the terms of our surrender. We have to build the new renaissance.

Starting point is 00:53:32 We have to build the great awakening. And it has to be a spiritual awakening in God and Christ. And we have to call on God, because they've got their God. Notice Target, like literally put out shirts with an artist that takes weeks and believing in the devil. We are Satanist and we are going to recruit your kids and I'm sure with that shirt.

Starting point is 00:53:49 The designer was all devil worship saying LVP to he's saying love trans S for Satan. Now they threw an answer there. Look at it. See that Bob Robber says target right there. Go right there. Top left target. And that's that that was the pin that they were selling.

Starting point is 00:54:06 Target respects Satan respects pronouns. There was no way they were selling. I 100% they were. We should crew and I got video of it. Pat, they were selling. We're selling this one off. Target ignites firestorm with launch of new clothing line designed by Satanist.

Starting point is 00:54:19 100% target is missibles by mile. And then some can you zoom in a little bit. The retail giant has been selected by a few brands. You know, I've just them, that promotes Satan, you're Reddit, right? Target's partner is app, app, praline. It has, do say, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, listen, listen, listen, listen, go to Twitter. And the woman has an account. These are shirts, not just art.

Starting point is 00:54:46 Riches for what they are. They also offer clothing and accessories that includes catchphrases like transwitches for abortion. Okay, click on that and let's try to buy it. Go to transwitches for what? Well, here's the good news. They pulled it after a week. Okay.

Starting point is 00:55:01 And then they got all these bomb threats from the LGBT pieces. Yes, leave it in there The rainbow mafia the rangel mafia was like yo, we're gonna bomb target if you try to mess with it Go on that Etsy page go on that Etsy page Yeah, that one right there because that guy the guy's name ab Rowan whatever his name is which is for abortion Listen, they actually sold the shirts that had a guillotine and said and said And said we're gonna kill homophobes Yeah, and then and then shows gonna kill homophobes.

Starting point is 00:55:25 Yeah. And then it shows an adult skeleton giving a baby skeleton the trans fire. And it says, we will recruit your children. They will be trans. What was that supposed to say? So they were reaching the other day, but you're here, I don't know,

Starting point is 00:55:36 I'm coming for your children. So our story would happen today. So, if you wanna pull up the story. So, and now it's like, I'll give a couple examples before we get to the next. I'm talking about Boston. I'm talking about Blitz and and Alex we've talked about this yesterday So when people say when people like you when people like me talk about this attack on children

Starting point is 00:55:50 This this satanic going after children and and the trans movement just a couple of quick stories happened this week and Boston Four kids were found in a drag party with one dead trans guy on the floor and the kids were in the back There were sex toy scattered throughout the house and a hoarder home doesn't make headlight news. But the firefighters said they were hiding the kids in the back bedroom. They were hiding. Daily mail right here, put it out there. So this is not a right winged source.

Starting point is 00:56:15 Daily mail. And yeah, and keep the stories going. The first trans state representative, Stacy Lawton, aka Barry Lawton, from New Hampshire, was just arrested for distributing child porn Okay, just happened and mind you they couldn't find them because he transitioned and changed his name How about this one by the way they're trying to pass laws in in California in other states where if once you change your name If you're trans your sponges your your your your criminal record really yeah, so yeah change your name Alex

Starting point is 00:56:42 Yeah, so yeah, your Alexandra Jones Exonerated no, you know, oh you have no money and one more, so yeah, your Alexandra Jones exonerated. Yeah, you know, you know, you have no money. And one more. So three days ago, the XCNN producer, John Griffin, was sentenced 19 years for sexually assaulting a nine year old, okay? And then this was the other day,

Starting point is 00:56:54 this is in New York City, a drag march, where the marchers are chanting, we're here, we're queer, we're here for your children. Tell me this. Tell me this isn't disgusting you listen like you're not now listen this is

Starting point is 00:57:17 you want to have you want to back those republic school teachers yeah We're here. I don't even want to bet those are public school teachers. Yeah. And here's a thing for your, that's where, did you see the San Francisco city funded, Jay Choir, where they go,

Starting point is 00:57:33 we're coming for your children, we'll take them, you'll love it, and then we'll get you to, we're gonna get your children, and then they go to the city council's all over, even the conservative areas and go, we are gonna recruit your children, that's sex with them.

Starting point is 00:57:44 Oh my god. Rob, you can you pull that up? And how is that not the headline story but the Titanic sinking ship with five people is the number one story. Oh yeah, and blues clues now on. This is it right here. On mainstream TV has bathamette and mollock and the kids being sacrificed. Oh my god.

Starting point is 00:58:02 Yeah, so this is exactly what, but here's what's happening. Let me tell you what I think is happening. And I kind of agree with what you're saying. I think common sense will prevail, and a lot of people are sitting there saying, this just doesn't make any sense. You saw the Gallup poll that came back where America is right now with the LGBTQ

Starting point is 00:58:20 and where they're standing, how the biggest plus minus was, the fact that the American people are no longer as comfortable as they were, dropped by 7% year over year and we're at. And even the glendale stuff that's going on with the kids, the parents coming out saying, this is too much across the line. More and more people are being united on ESG's bad idea.

Starting point is 00:58:41 More and more people are being united with you, can be grooming our kids. More and more people are stunned to realize, this is not just what we're all about and it's not just the people from the right it's it's people from who have historically voted democrat that are saying look man i don't know what the hell is going on this isn't what i supported it's a little bit of time yeah you're seeing you're seeing it's going from

Starting point is 00:59:03 democrat versus republican where it's going from Democrat versus Republican where it's going from establishment against anti-establishment. That's the two political parties. We're gradually going away from the Republican and the Democratic Party. We're going to the anti-establishment and establishment party. And we were saying, yeah, you know what, I don't trust these establishment anymore like I used to. I just don't.

Starting point is 00:59:22 It also goes to ridiculous versus just common sense. Stuff like this. We're healer, we're coming for your children and how Patrick, that is listening to me. That's the devil out in the open. They're not even hiding in the world. And they say, in this, in short the year, and they say we're going to get them,

Starting point is 00:59:39 we're going to groom them, there are, so they're gonna love it, so will you. This transcends party lines. This is the end of it. About Jevon, we're gonna love it, so will you. This transcends party lines. This is the next. Oh, and it's earned out a bunch of them. We're registered checks offenders, the children. These guys, a bunch of them. The majority of the way.

Starting point is 00:59:53 Look at their faces. What did they see in this video? What did they see in this video? I don't know what you're gonna say. This is a city sponsored choir. I mean, it's nauseating, but just click on it. And just say no for a wrap up. It's third, this is from 2021. Okay.

Starting point is 01:00:05 We're coming for your children. Jesus. We're coming for your children. Is this a real video? This is their religion? This is not a joke. No, no, they are restless. The Francisco gay men's chorus sang a song about coming for your children. It was like they spelled the plan out in plain sight. Like Alex said, sometimes just look right in front of your face. What they're saying, it doesn't need to be conspiratorial. They're fucking sad. Yeah, there's no hiding. Can we continue the song? Was that just the point

Starting point is 01:00:41 of the song? Yeah, sing along. If you know the words out there, sing along. That was it. Unbelievable. We're coming for your children. They're Ellen and they're doing it. It's the worst letter that we will groom them And we're gonna get you to you belong to us your body is ours And then the last one's to make you take the shots, too. It's all about rape rape and Alex you work power power power Alex you warned about the Epstein Island situation way before he got arrested, way before he committed suicide. What like, I'm just gonna get away with this for-

Starting point is 01:01:12 Well, I mean, here's an example. I was, I got put like 20 years ago in some Hollywood movies. I've never even asked to do it. Rick Linkletters, great guy. Not part of Hollywood. And he put me in, waking up with a scanner darkly, with counter-rave in people. And, but I's a great guy, not part of Hollywood. And he put me in waking up to the scanner

Starting point is 01:01:25 darkly with counter raves and men and people. And but I also consulted on those especially on the scanner darkly. So then this time I got into Hollywood, Martin Sheen saw one of my anti-war films and said I'd like you to fly out to California. So this is like a 2004 or something. Charlie Sheen's dead.

Starting point is 01:01:44 Yeah, yeah, I don't want. So that's how I met Charlie Sheen. So I met their house in Malibu. That'd be a party. And they're there. And they're just like, you know, all of a sudden, Anthony Hopkins comes over and it's like, I'm sitting at their house and they're watching one

Starting point is 01:01:54 of my documentaries tell me how great I am. So I think I'm a leftist because it's anti-war, which I am anti-war, says it's a populist. It's a conservative, it's a person. And then Emilio Estevez comes over and then also Charlie Sheen comes over and goes, Hey man, I'll fly out here next time, which you can go on, back then he was with,

Starting point is 01:02:09 he was off the drugs and then he was smoking cigarettes. He was with the dark care, the hot girl. That was the girl before that. Who's the one that's in Starship Trip? Oh, it's in East Richard. In East Richard, yeah. So he was married to as kids with. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:02:20 So I'm used to go stay in his house, his kids are there. You're staying with Charlie Sheen. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But he invite me to party next time, Alex Trilin. Well, I'll stay with go stay in his house. His kids are there. You're staying with Charlie Jean. Oh, yeah, yeah. But he invite me to party next time. Well, Alex, I stayed with him when he went down. Yeah. Definitely. That's the way I used to like, hey, my house is always here, man.

Starting point is 01:02:33 And listen, you can use all my cars here. And here, drop my Porsche. And it's like 800 horsepower. Oh, first year, it was like 60 miles an hour. Yeah. And I was like, and I'm driven sticking good, but I had to like turn it around and bring it back to his house. He's like, hey, man, I'm going to some Taco Bell.

Starting point is 01:02:48 You could take the portion, you'll get me some down the cell. And I'm seriously, and I'm like, I have to bring, I can I drive another car? I can't drive it. Go back to what was happening. I was like, I'm fussy. Go back while it's happening. So this part, Charlie,

Starting point is 01:02:59 and Mark the picture, and this. And all this. Look at these guys. I mean, you look like you were in good shape. He looks like he was rough right there. Tiger blood. So you were saying about the valleywood, you're in Hollywood, Hollywood, you're in Hollywood. You're gonna be in the movie. You were going somewhere with this. Oh, oh, so, so. Yeah. And so then I got to know all these other people.

Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah. Those were off record stuff. But I mean, like, he, he had to go to dinner with Buzz Aldrin and Buzz Aldrin, how about the aliens and the secret bases and the obelisk and how they're gonna find water in two years. We're gonna let the Indians find it in two years later. I'm in an airport and there's a newspaper saying and I mean, just the most wacky stuff. So then I start knowing all these other Hollywood people

Starting point is 01:03:36 because I was going on TV shows and like some reality shows about the spirits, he did a whole bunch of them, five or six of them, I probably weren't that. And so I was on a TV program, so I was doing voiceovers, doing a role well. And then I just, this is probably like 16 years ago or so. I knew some folks, they go, listen, you think Hollywood's cool. He goes, this one's a Charlottes mother people, they go,

Starting point is 01:03:57 they go, there's like three groups, which is people that are here that make the money, and then you try to live outside the area, and then they're Scientologists, and then there really is like a cult CIA devilish person. And I didn't run this from Martin Sheen or Charlie Sheen's from other people. And it was like, yeah, they've got these cults,

Starting point is 01:04:10 but they all feed into this larger CIA group, and they brand the women on their bellies and all, and that was next to them. And then they've got these islands where they get these politicians and scientists to people to compromise them. And it's all run by MI6, CIA and MESOD, and they fly them out to these islands,

Starting point is 01:04:24 and they go, they're not just having sex with kids. He goes, they also, that's the entry door. And I learned this from more people and found out from other folks, and then I talked to entertainers, and then I talked to well-known musicians, and like, that's why a lot of them just leave, because this happened to Mark Dice,

Starting point is 01:04:40 who's been friends with forever. He got offered a major show by the largest reality TV show group. And this is like 10 years ago now. And they get him in there at the end of it. And they say, well, here's the last thing. We want you, there's a huge show with a huge, with one of the Motley crew guys, it's Nikki Six. And the head of the company goes, but we want you to pleasure self-delucifer.

Starting point is 01:05:03 And in Mark's symbol, I'm a Christian. Well, we know you say you are, but let's just get this head of the company goes, but we want you to pledge yourself to Lucifer. And Mark said, well, I'm a Christian. They go, well, we know you say you are, but let's just get this out of the way. And he says, this is a joke. And he said, no, I'm deadly serious with you. Now, that's just one guy that will go public. I got told that. And I've had a lot of meetings. I've meetings with builderburg group members. I've had meetings with all these folks. And they're off record meetings. I never talk about them. But one time they had a Kissinger group at Rothcop in front of my producer said, we want you to come work for us. We want you to come to New York next week.

Starting point is 01:05:31 We're gonna, you know, there's only a few thousand people in the super class. We want you to lead, you know, basically the populist liberty movement. But you'll get to see at the table, but you'll have to do it. We tell you, but you'll get some input. You can be on your crusade and fail

Starting point is 01:05:44 or you can join us. So that was offered in front of John Harmon, my producer. I said, this is off regularly, I said, no, just join us. But that wasn't Satanism, the way they set it there, but it's always the same speech. And so I have repeatedly had people, one time I had this major executive, trying to give me a $10 million of your contract

Starting point is 01:06:02 and multi-book deals every year. And they said, you just got to come in and do the show, but we will control you do. And I'm sitting there and his guys wife comes in and we're up to this big, big high rise, you know, corporate office and this woman's super beautiful and they go, I heard you like to have fun. You want to have sex with my wife right now? She takes your heart. She wants to have sex. What do I need to do? They need to get on my knees and have you signed this contract? Then another time they offer you this deal?

Starting point is 01:06:26 Absolutely. Another time they sent this famous CIA guy, same deal. I meet with him all the stuff he gets on his knees. So and that's what these people do because they want that baseball card. They want to own Alex Jones and they're going to want to own you. And when you get popular and they're going to want and they're super crazy stuff like. Like I already heard about this but I was talking to a very well known And they're gonna want to own you. And when you get popular, and they're gonna want, and they're super crazy stuff like, like I already heard about this, but I was talking to a very well-known individual,

Starting point is 01:06:47 and I can't tell the whole story. But he was being flown by the same guy that was flying the king of a major Middle Eastern country. And I'm not gonna say, because we don't get to get the guy in trouble. This is on a big jet, jumbo, you're a large full body jet, and this is the chief pilot.

Starting point is 01:07:02 And he tells this guy that I know doesn't BS. He tells them, listen, I've only done this, you're like, once, has done all these NDAs, all this stuff, we get on the jumbo jet with the king of this major deal, and there's other jets, a couple jets following it with his family, because that's how they do it. And he says, go to these coordinates, and he wouldn't even say what ocean,

Starting point is 01:07:23 but he goes, there's nothing there. And he goes, no, go there. They go there. It's a private island beyond, it's like seven star. If such a thing existed and no homeless, nothing, nothing but billionaires, but it's just everything. And telling you, that's the level of this control. And I guarantee you, they've approached Joe Rogan because he's not going to, he hasn't told

Starting point is 01:07:41 me, but I can tell, you know, I mean, last year he's gotten the talking to me, he said, screw him, I can tell, because we hang out and have dinner and talk to him, but the point is I can just tell, because I know people get these speeches. And is there another Epstein island? Well, that's the level, the level of yes, absolutely, when you say an island, I mean, I'm being told by well-known people

Starting point is 01:08:01 that man, hey, you think Hollywood's cool, you know, what are you going to do when you're in a party some night? And they bring a 16 year old girl in there, and I'm sorry, I haven't sex with her, and just implicate you're in the building. And that's why you need to not go to that party, and you get out of here. Okay, that's the kind of stuff really prominent people you know, you're like telling you, this place is dangerous, and you need to watch out, because I was getting deep into Hollywood. I mean, I was at parties with the biggest names. Well, I mean, you just have to think about it.

Starting point is 01:08:28 If Rob, what is this you pulled up here, this NXIVM? Next. That's the sex cult that Alex was talking about most. His name of Kamala used to describe the personality cult of imprisoned, racketeer, and sex offender Keith. Renere is also trademarked name, defunct corporation that Renere founded, which provided seminars and videos in the field of human potential development.

Starting point is 01:08:50 The United States seized ownership of the organization related entities and personal intellectual property through asset forfeiture allowing Renere to, keep going, that's what's the last one, so we're doing a new district. But that's just one feeder group. That's just one feeder group.

Starting point is 01:09:08 So they have all these little, you know, kind of like the hell's angels or the Mongols will have a sub motorcycle gang that's not members but works for them. And then they'll have guys under them. And so that's how they work. But so I was told by a lot of people that this stuff was going on and that and that Hollywood was run by basically. I mean, if you've seen that new movie, I forget the name of it. I was pretty powerful. It's actually someone historic, it's a composite. Babylon about Hollywood. The latest movie that just came out was a movie or documentary?

Starting point is 01:09:40 The Freedom. No, I think it was called Babylon, Hollywood Babylon. I had to find that room. It just came out. I watched it. What was the premise? Is it in theaters? It was in theaters. It was a big movie. What was the premise of the movie? It was the early days of Hollywood in the 20s and 30s.

Starting point is 01:10:01 Hollywood. Yeah, I see it right here. Right there, Hollywood Babylon. Yeah, 2022. 2022. I see it right here. Right there. Hollywood Babylon. Yeah, 2022. I click it. I think we were black coming from Arizona. Margot Robbie.

Starting point is 01:10:14 Brad Pitt. Margot Robbie. Anyway, if you watch that, that's that's stuff went on. Go to the poster on the right, right? Well, the poster right there. Punching. Is that it? Yeah. And so this is based on pit Margot Robbie Babylon Real like the pay true Mel Gibson is a composite of three stories

Starting point is 01:10:33 But they're true and and that's the same thing for a lot of these movies But but I read the research on this. This is a composite of real stuff that went on in Hollywood So this devil worship a cannibalism, eating rats, while I'm in sex with hot women, because to them it's not enough to have a hot woman. Now you need to have it. Brad Pitt, isn't it? Mugger, Robbie's on.

Starting point is 01:10:53 Yeah. Yeah. Why would they make a movie trashing their own industry? I think they think it's cool. And is it coming from a place of like exposing to truth or is it coming from a place of, this to truth or is it coming from a place of this is the level to make it if you become very famous and highly basically say this is Hollywood's

Starting point is 01:11:10 tombstone in the movie and they just say this is who we are at Hollywood's dead now. So now here's a story of how we began and that maybe we'll be reborn somewhere else. Pretty strange right there because we're all in the phase now of even the system has to expose itself now because this is the season of that. And so, but I'm telling you, watch this movie. This is Devil Worship in the 20s and 30s. They call it a black comedy drama. Punch in Rob.

Starting point is 01:11:37 Epic period black comedy drama. You watched a soul movie? Yes. But what I saw, Bohemian Grove had major shades of this. And if I can't just because I never do this on big shows, we're struggling to stay on air. We still have a huge audience that tunes in, and our work is seen everywhere.

Starting point is 01:11:55 But it's kind of like I'm in a prison, and then I send letters out. If people want to find what we're actually doing and what's going on, ban.video, they block sharing that link. So Mad Max World.tv. Obviously, there's the on, band.video. They blocked sharing that link, so madmaxworld.tv. Obviously, there's the famous info wars.com, but I'm on the year 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. every day.

Starting point is 01:12:10 I'm at other great talk show host. I'm going to be hosting a show tomorrow night from Tampa at the river church at Revival.com. We're going to simulcast that. Then I'm going to do a meet and greet and ask Alex Jones anything at 7 p.m. at the river church in Tampa Sunday night So I guess that's has the Rodney's church. It's past your Rodney Howard Brown out there, so so that's gonna be going on and I mean we I still have my crew

Starting point is 01:12:35 We're still able to pay the bandwidth bills the satellite up links We're on a lot of TV stations and cable stations as well and we're fighting and and the enemies trying to shut us down But you know you ask how do I pay the bills you ask that earlier? Yes, we're fighting and the enemy's trying to shut us down. But you know, you ask, how do I pay the bills? You asked that earlier. Yes. We're in a chapter 11, sub chapter five, which is a reorganization. And if the company's viable, even though the other side just wants a silenced, then under federal law continues.

Starting point is 01:12:57 And the judge says we've done a good job. Everything's proven up the way we said it was. It's a viable company. And so it looks like that's gonna probably go through in the next few months. And then the bankruptcy will go forward and my company won't be shut down. I personally didn't declare bankruptcy

Starting point is 01:13:11 until I had the billion, $500 million judgment that kicked me up into pure chapter 11. So I can't do that, but it's a catch 22 because I don't have a bunch of stuff. And so I'm gonna run a $20 t-shirt, but this is how I like to live. And so plus I don't have a sharp, like you guys look like athletes. But, so the message is they haven't hurt me very bad.

Starting point is 01:13:31 They haven't silenced me. In fact, they've made me bigger. And I'm kind of going to say folk heroish now, because of the, because the system's so demonized, people say this guy's getting massively demonized. He must be good. So it's not that I'm that good, it's that anything that people now see

Starting point is 01:13:47 as the establishment hating they love. And so that's what this happened. And I want my enemies to know you've not silenced me, but I'm not even your enemy. I want you to stop destroying yourselves. You've lost all credit. I'm coming to the FBI's back where they were really corrupting.

Starting point is 01:14:01 Come out with your hands up and it'll go better for you. The new world order is failing. Everybody sees who you are. It isn't working anymore. I just want my children to have a future and I really want to have like an armistice with the globalist and then have an open discussion about the way civilization is going because we haven't even gotten into Russia and I'm glad to talk about myself but folks, this is the most, this is way a, a, a, globalist coup counter-coup power struggle.

Starting point is 01:14:30 In Russia is going on right now. No one knows what the truth is. I have, I can talk about the angles of it. I'm sure you guys, we talked before we went live, are, are, are amazing. But this, this, this is, I mean, I am at a gut level instinctively concerned for my family and concerned for us. I mean, I actually feel good being in a four foot wall safe facility right now. Before we get to Russia, because I know we do want to cover that, you said something a second ago that I think would be appropriate to bring up. You said when they tried to silence you, when they tried to cancel you, it's actually has a reverse effect you actually end up getting bigger.

Starting point is 01:15:01 Look at Tucker, he had five million viewers a night. Now his average show is 60 million. And then this is reminiscent of an interview we just did two weeks ago with the one and only Andrew Tate, his brother Tristan Tate. I know you've had some relationships with them. He's only getting bigger as they try to silence him and cancel him. You've had some experiences with Tate, you're following that story. What do you think of that?

Starting point is 01:15:21 Yeah, I was one of the first people to interview him in the US. Paul Watson was friends with him when he was on Big Brother. They hung out a lot. And they used to go out and, you know, double date and stuff because they're both big tall, you know, handsome guys. And total gentleman to women, totally nice. All of its pure crap. You know, half the women that supposedly said that they never said that. They wouldn't charge them for a year and a half. It's pure for the fact that he was the most Google person and everything he did was getting a hundred million views. And they're just scared of any man that pops up that threatens their monopoly because

Starting point is 01:15:52 what might stand up against the globalists that take over the planet, men? And so any man they can't buy, any man they can't intimidate, any man they can't destroy, they come after you with sex. And let me just tell you, I think he did some racy stuff. They did the cam stuff. They made a lot of money. He had a former police officers and people running it That that's his right to do it. I think he painted a target on his back But I don't think he knew how big he was gonna get that that would then happen that said I'll break some news here We had

Starting point is 01:16:19 From the other side trying to shut us down recently This has even been in the Washington Post. The Justice Department trying to indict me and then even the Justice Department said this guy didn't do anything on January 6th, he tried to stop it. We can't charge in, it's a man. That was in the Washington Post, it's crazy enough. There's still got Jack Smith trying to do it, claiming I'm masterminded with Trump, it's ridiculous.

Starting point is 01:16:37 But they've had the CIA, because we know who the people are, they're dumb enough where we can get their license plates and track them and much of my guys have worked, and the work of the CIA is nothing. I mean, that's like the low level, you know thing Oh, my guys resume. Yeah, everybody's worked for the CIA that works for the military and all that stuff and the state department Everything else and then they have the CIA they had British intelligence And they've had these the through these cutouts with big international PI, private investigation units, literally coming through and getting Facebook images

Starting point is 01:17:10 from like 10 years ago, and where a woman took a picture with me, and they call her up and say, you know what, relationship with Alex Jones? Did he rape you? Well, you know, no one was like, I think I saw him once at a movie theater and I took a picture with him.

Starting point is 01:17:23 I've had dozens of, more than dozens of women call the office and say, hey, I only met Alex once at a party and then this group's coming to me. So then they try to go to the security companies and that I've used and try to get higher them. Oh, this rich person from whatever wants to hire you and then they get to the interview and it's all about me.

Starting point is 01:17:45 And hey, and it's like does he ever rape women? We'll get you. So that's what they're doing to me, except I'm not doing that. Okay, so I work hard, eat too much, drink too much sometimes. And I go home and throw my six year old around the pool and hang out with my other three children that are basically grown 21, 18 and 15. So, for me, especially under this attack, more than ever, it's all about family.

Starting point is 01:18:11 That's my refuge. That's what it's all about. And they literally have multinational groups and intelligence agencies scouring going. We've got to get somebody to timble. And look, they'll probably find a woman, I don't even know like with this Trump lady You know he was found guilty by a jury not of raping a woman. They said no, we didn't find he raped her, but he defamed her by saying he's innocent Said he was innocent five million dollars, and I'm sure after a certain point It's like an escape from New York

Starting point is 01:18:42 Yeah, if you've seen a clip with her and Anderson Cooper? Yeah, where she says, women really love getting raped. Yeah. I said, he'd ever even physically touching it. It was an emotional rape. Oh, yeah. You see this clip? I have to play it again.

Starting point is 01:18:55 Yeah. This clip never gets so when she says, you know, I really like you, Anderson. And he gets uncomfortable. He looks like he wants to stop the. I don't. He's not a truck. He's not even a woman. He's attracted them in. Yeah. Exactly. I don't think she fully stop the he's not a truck. He's not even a woman, but he's

Starting point is 01:19:05 a truck to the man. Exactly. I don't think she fully understood that he's gay. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He's trying to come on to a gay dude. She's like, listen, lady, who looks like the chick from a

Starting point is 01:19:15 40-year-old virgin, if I'm gonna make the switch, it ain't gonna be for you. Well, she also looks like the monster from a four turns in the state of marshmallow man. Oh, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. You're a god? No. Dig.

Starting point is 01:19:26 Die! Don't you love that Congressman Gozer? I love that. Has the same name as the demon Gozer? That's Gozer, the Elimiter. Gozer, the traveler. Gozer, destroyer. Gozer is on CNN.

Starting point is 01:19:38 Play the clip. I don't feel like a victim. I was not thrown on the ground in ravish, which the word rape carries so many sexual connotation. Play the clip, play the clip. I feel like a victim. I was not thrown on the ground and ravished. Which the word rape carries so many sexual connotation. This was not sexual. It just, it hurt. It just, what it just, you know.

Starting point is 01:19:56 I think most people think of rape as a violent assault. It is not a violence. I think most people think of rape as being sexy. What? What? Look at the fantasies. Look, look. Assault it is not I think most people think of rape as being sexy what We're gonna take a Wait, we'll talk more what you're fascinating And seen many clips on and let look over and over again then this and he's revolting You're fascinating you're not as tight funny, but listen, I found tapes of this lady.

Starting point is 01:20:32 I mean, one night I literally spent like three hours finding clips and I incentive the crew, but I never played them on air. She literally hopping around the with me. I mean, she is a fruit ball, man. I mean, in the encyclopedia, I should say fruit cake, wing back, and a picture of her. But as long before we go to the run, so Alex Jones, so you, let's say you have a crystal ball, Alex, before you started this crusade, and who you are right now to this day, and you

Starting point is 01:21:00 could see everything that they've done and where you at right now, do you change anything? You do anything different not to get to, could you solve what they're doing to you? You know, hindsight's 2020, and I see how God works, how universe works, the Lord works, the mysterious ways. Yeah, I would have done a lot of things different.

Starting point is 01:21:15 I didn't realize how influential I was, even 15 years ago, and I would just be doing five, six hours a day some days and just having fun. Sometimes I do nighttime shows, have a few martinis, and you know, stay stuffed tongue and cheek. And then that let them spin it and do things

Starting point is 01:21:29 and then take it out of context. But that probably added to the success of the end of the day. So it's all in God's hands. I've never tried to lie. I've never tried to hurt innocent people. But I have had a big footprint and I have stepped on people. And I'm sorry for that. But the past is the past.

Starting point is 01:21:44 And I can't even really look back at the past. I mean, I studied the past, understand the future, but I'm just trying to improve myself now and just trying to get as humble as possible and just really praying that we don't have a nuclear war and that we can just have a future. I mean, used to, I wanted to be number one and I would get a little jealous

Starting point is 01:22:03 of other people that were really successful, but the best thing in my life has been really realizing it's the human continuum, and that we're all basically on the same journey together, and other people success against tyranny is my success. So I'm the happiest I've ever been, and I just, all the persecution has been wonderful. It's really taught me a lot,

Starting point is 01:22:21 and it's helped me be a better person, so I want to thank my enemies for everything they've done to me. And I want to encourage them not to be destroyed by their master that will destroy them. And I want to have a future with them on a planet we can all live on. And so I want to tell my enemies I love you and I care about you and Jesus loves you. And you just need to ask Jesus to come into your heart and God will set you on the right path and forgive you. And that's really the answer. And I would just really encourage them to find God.

Starting point is 01:22:43 Amen. Because let me tell you, God and the devil are real. You better get that straight. Yep. Where did this come from? How long have you to take this? It's a piphany phase. Because what you're basically saying is like, you've been humbled, right?

Starting point is 01:22:54 You were at the top of the podium and then boom, you've been brought down, everything that's happened to you. Is it pastor Rodney? Is it you're reading the Bible? Well, you're praying for your enemies. Well, I've always been a Christian, but then I kind of slip out of here Rodney, is it you're reading the Bible? You're praying for your enemies. You're saying? Well, I've always been a Christian,

Starting point is 01:23:07 but then I kind of slip out of here and turn into the Tasmanian devil. I mean, literally, the angel in the devil, like, sometimes I like before I know it, I'm like, okay, I'm in the dark. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, but I'm always faithful to God, I wanna be here, but I can jump over to the devil really easy.

Starting point is 01:23:20 And so, I've always been forgiven. And I've always loved other people's success. One of the best things I've always been grateful and I've never, it's just that I catch myself saying, well, I like that person, I still have to do a three job. And you know what it's like. And but that's all of our wealth together. And so really enjoying the wealth of other people's success

Starting point is 01:23:38 is all our human success. Communists and socialists and the Torterians, Telterians, they, in that movie, the book oil that was made in the movie, there will be blood. It's such a powerful scene. Maybe you could pull it up. It's only like 30 seconds long where he says, the day Louis probably was the best actor's ever.

Starting point is 01:23:52 You know, he says, I have a competition in me. I don't like to see other people do well. And, and I don't like other people. And he's like saying, I want to like you because you're my cousin. And later he learns he's faking it. He looks like his cousin. He kills him. But, you know, imagine being alone like he says, I just want to have enough money to be left alone and be, you know,'re my cousin. And later he learns he's faking it. He looks like his cousin, he kills him. But imagine being alone like this,

Starting point is 01:24:06 is I just wanna have enough money to be left alone and be completely walled off. And he's just not happy. And so I wanna be the opposite. But you can't just be like, oh, everything's yours and I'm gonna roll over to you. You gotta be strong for your family, strong for culture, fight tyrants,

Starting point is 01:24:21 to build a free market system where we don't make people be Christian, but they want to be Christian because that's the way they know that's going to be successful and empower them and have them be with God forever. And so it really is a fight, good versus evil. And now, people that were agnostic, very famous people are having spiritual experiences. Some of them are having incredible experiences with like angels and you know the whole spirit in God. Others are literally, don't believe anything, are laying in their beds and a huge black

Starting point is 01:24:49 shadow comes in and just rips off their shirt and just huge bloody slashes across them and then just throws them up against the wall. And then they start finding out, well okay, what do they do? And you know, they go to a rabbi and he says, put this cabal on and do this ritual, doesn't help them. They finally go get born again, all of it leaves. And this is happening with scene, well-known people that were not atheists, they didn't hate Christians.

Starting point is 01:25:12 They're like, come on, you don't really believe in God. And they're having the experience. Because if you don't have God around you as a defense shield, you are wide open. And the devil can't help it. Whatever this force called the devil, it's it. I mean, whatever this feels for, it's called the devil. It's gotta, because if you're doing good work, but you don't know it's God and have God as literally a shield,

Starting point is 01:25:32 it's like being in a submarine with screen doors. You're dead. And so this stuff's gonna come in if you don't have God. Alex, that's why I'm talking about God because I need to get closer to God. I need God. God is my refuge. God gets all the glory, not me.

Starting point is 01:25:43 Alex, you're saying accepting God, accepting God, Jesus is the Lord of Savior, saying you have to accept Jesus. All right, well, I'm Jewish. Respect, where the OG Christian, you know, I'm not putting, I'm not putting, no, I'm not, that's the one I'm asking. We have a lot of Muslim friends, a lot of Islam, and your teachers turn to a Muslim.

Starting point is 01:26:00 Abrahamic faith, the whole of my knowledge. That's I'm asking, Judea, and I wasn't putting down the rabbi. This was a real story I was telling you. And that didn't work. I'm not saying every, I'm not, it wasn't a dodge, but it's like, this engine cleaner worked great.

Starting point is 01:26:15 This one did, and I wasn't like. But your overall concept of faith and finding God, and a lot of your, you just said, sometimes I'm the God, and sometimes I'm devil, and everything's going on right there. And everything that you've uncovered with these satanic rituals and everything at the one place up in California.

Starting point is 01:26:31 Well, maybe in Grove. And this, you talked about their praying to the devil and their sacrificing the children and everything like this. Do you feel like it's just a fight of believing in God versus the devil? 100% Is that what it comes down to?

Starting point is 01:26:43 Yeah, art types. I mean, for people that are, I'm not gonna try to just push nothing but Christian peoplepes. I mean, for people that are, you know, I'm not gonna try to just push nothing but Christianity but that's what I believe that's what I know. But absolutely, the first step is to realize there is good and evil. There's stuff we don't see.

Starting point is 01:26:52 There's other dimensions. And none of these globalists are atheists. They're all into the occult. They're all into weirdness. They're all super neurotic. And, or they're super scared of God. I just don't wanna hear about it. Like we're permired of.

Starting point is 01:27:01 Let's talk about, let's go, let's actually, by the way, if you wanna play this clip, they would talk about with Danny, they'd lose, and then let's go into the Bohemian grove. And it's in the first minute or something. Yeah. Volume. Okay, then don't worry about good call.

Starting point is 01:27:14 Okay, that's a good call. But great tea, pause it, pause it, rap. Okay, there you go. And just kinda go away from it. Okay, thank you, Anders, for that. So let's talk about Bohemian grove. So, you know, if for the audience that doesn't know, obviously Bohemian growth has been done on

Starting point is 01:27:28 by a lot of different people, but this is one of the first things that you did, almost like a vlog stop. Before anybody was doing vlogs, you know, Alex Jones was doing vlogs. This is a clip before we play this clip. Can you tell everybody what this clip is all about before Rob plays it?

Starting point is 01:27:42 Sure, and again, people can search around and find HD versions of this at band.video. So I'm not telling you to go there, but if you go to band.video, you're welcome to use it all. And just type in Alex Jones, David Gergen or Alex Jones, but he may grow. You can find it's not an HD, but it's a lot better quality. But all this stuff's a lot better. Rob, it's fine. At this point, don't go. Go go down. I'm just telling folks. So it's a plug, but so, but you're right. So again, I'm a Christian, I believe in God, but God's kind of like something that happens on Sunday and it's like a jacket I wear once a week.

Starting point is 01:28:14 It's kind of like over here. I believe in God, I love Jesus, but you know, devils and all this stuff, whatever. So I've been on air a few years, four or five years and John Ronson, when I'm out there doing a story about the Waco massacre, and we're digging up the, soil and stuff to show that they did fire in, in seniorary grenades to set the place on fire.

Starting point is 01:28:37 We actually found some of those. So we're out there digging and this, in this British film BBC crew comes along. And he says, he says, his name's John Ronson, he says, Alex, I hear, Alex, I hear that you've snuck into some military bases and been able to, and at which I've done, and shown some martial law training that was going on.

Starting point is 01:28:55 He said, we have liability, and they won't let me get into a hemi grow, but I have a lawyer that works there who actually has some of the past codes and things and how to not get kicked out with a secret service or the Montereo Sheriff Department that's all over the place like 50 of them in their lease I saw but also Secret Service and others because presidents of them go there and royalty and Prince Charles and all of it and he said there's this big Al God and they worship it on the 15th of July every year

Starting point is 01:29:25 I think they've now pushed it to later in July But for 15 days in July all these world leaders go there it's 2007 or record would grow and he goes I just need you to go in there with a hidden camera And I need you to get us the footage and then I need you to air it on your access TV show because my lawyers tell me And they just being honest about all this my lawyers tell me that then we'll be able, once it's fair use and out in the open, you can give us the authorization to use it, you've got to air it first. And he said, how much money do you want? And I said, well, I don't, okay, there's guys in the woods, we're just putting it out. I said, is this the KKK or something? And he goes, no, no, no, it's very liberal. It was founded by Mark Twain, but then the president

Starting point is 01:30:02 taftook it over in 1900, which was all true. And I go, wait, I've heard from some of the shortwave of militia people that there's a thing called the Himian Grove they worship now. And so I did research, he called him back, and I said, y'all do it. He says, okay, well, we're gonna go this next July. It's like a year later. And so it comes time, I fly out there,

Starting point is 01:30:19 I have little, you know, DB cams just come out with this little compact camera, put in the Fanny pack. And basically, it was all true put it in the fanny pack. And basically it was all true. It happened. It was insane. So you talk about making your faith stronger.

Starting point is 01:30:31 Imagine the five hours I'm in there. So it's on the Russian river. Totally beautiful. It's the biggest stand of Redwood trees outside of the big national park in California. 2,700 acres of trees you could drive a truck through, okay? And so, and it's in the middle of a gorge and then goes out over the Russian river. So you can only get in in one entrance and it's a gorge, and the gorge entrance is about a hundred yards wide,

Starting point is 01:30:58 okay? And then there's hills that go up to it and the most elite things called the Sha'le, were presidents in Royal T-Go and have secret meetings, and I was never up called the Sha'le, were presidents in Royal Tego and have secret meetings, and I was never up at the Sha'le. I was down on the bottom and I went back to the back to the swimming platform and then back to the front. And it was several miles in. And I got questioned several times

Starting point is 01:31:18 by Secret Service, but just imagine I get there and it's copyright-free, trademark-free, you can use all my Mahimian grow footage, however you want, you can show it to people. What's the best place to go to show some BTS, some behind the scenes? I would say Band-Dot video and I would just type in Mahimian Grove or it's on YouTube. You can type in Alex Jones Mahimian Grove or dark secrets inside Mahimian Grove or the order of deaths, the second film I made about it.

Starting point is 01:31:41 And it's, you know, it's color. I just look forward on YouTube to see if it's easy to find it. Yeah, you're welcome to show all the B-roll of it. And so long story short, it's a long, so make it talk for five hours about the Heaming Grove. It's July 15th, 2020. And so they've told me some of the pass codes, they've got maps from the internal members

Starting point is 01:32:02 that they give the members. They gave me pass codes different camps because it's like a little little little little camps of cabins and stuff and like bars and things there They're built all over over 100 camps and so They had told me that I should try to walk through and use the pass code To get in to the guard check But do you remember what the passcode was? It was stuff like I'm with the Hillbilly's Red Mountain. That was I'm with the Hillbilly.

Starting point is 01:32:31 Alex Joan, I'm here with the Hillbilly's. All right. Well, I coach that, but that's the Bush's camp, the Texas camp. It's like a Texas camp that's kind of midway up. And that worked and I had a few of the passcodes. It was like Hillbilly's, were you shocked when it worked? The rest of the pass code, that's what camp here.

Starting point is 01:32:47 The pass code was red mountain. Were you shocked when it worked? You're like, holy shit, that just worked. Well, I'll tell the story. So, so, so, so, so they pull up to the entrance and there's like a bog and a little bit of a swamp right here off the road and they go, okay Alex, you're gonna walk through.

Starting point is 01:33:01 And I had a feeling and I saw that they were pulling cars into Parking on it over here and picking him up on these big flat back buses that had the tops cut off. you're gonna walk through and I had a feeling and I saw that they were pulling cars into park in a parking lot over here and picking them up on these big flat back buses that had the tops cut off like 1940s buses you know open air buses and and and so it's like a double-decker but one deck and it's just open and I and so I and I made a split second decision to step off and go through the bar bar fence step off and go through the bar bar fence because this is before the checkpoint and just act like I was in the parking lot and get on one of those. And so we just sailed through,

Starting point is 01:33:32 because Mike Hansen, my producer also went in with me because it would be better to be up to people people aren't usually alone. And Mike is big and fat like me now too, he's a great guy, but he was really good looking guy and I was really good looking. So I didn't understand what Nixon had said about it. I hadn't done that much research.

Starting point is 01:33:47 Once we get in, immediately people start whistling at me. Oh man. And so whistling like in a sexual way. And the workers are whistling at me. This is, I mean, Nixon called it the most gd, faggy thing you've ever seen. And so that's a quote. That's a one-house tape.

Starting point is 01:34:04 Now listen to this. That's a quote. That's a line-out tape. Listen to this. This is his audio. But the doctor class of San Francisco is that way to avoid the intro of the I-10. I'm talking about the history of the others in the company. But did his level of training go up and down? Did you get that new remanage from San Francisco? Where are you going? Did you just tear it? It's just hair.

Starting point is 01:34:36 It was a bit of a sense. And he was quite the man's man, and could have been from our people that know Nixon was supplied with the women. He was quite the opposite of homosexual. could have been a, from my people that know Nixon, was supplied with the women. He was quite the opposite of homosexual. And he was originally the nickname, Tricky Dick too, but the whole point is, hey, boy, that's a little inside, Lord. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you're hot, you're young, Alex Jones, you're on the scene, this is your 2000, they're whistling.

Starting point is 01:35:05 But yeah, so I'm immediately, so we get off and I'm like, okay, I got a map here. I'm gonna go see the owl and make sure this is real because the pond's supposed to be only like a half mile down. So I'm going in the gorge and people are walking by and I'm like, that's a senator, that's a, I know who's that, you're recognizing people because you've seen them, but you're trying to think

Starting point is 01:35:21 who is that? They're basically all famous. And you're walking, that's a Hollywood guy, that's a major musician, they bring them all in. It's guest. So a thousand members, most guests bring one guest.

Starting point is 01:35:33 The actual members bring one guest. You get a plus, it's like 2000 people. And so I saw Clint Eastwood when I was in there, I saw Danny Glover. So, but you wanna say, Hey Clint Eastwood, you know, do that.

Starting point is 01:35:43 It's like, Clint Eastwood. What other famous people did you see while you're there? A lot of my, I don't even go back in memory, but it was, it was quite a few. And like, there's that center there. There's like, Oh gosh, that center knows me. I'm kind of home. I guess.

Starting point is 01:35:53 So, so all of a sudden I'm walking by this big pond. Like, there's the big 45 foot out. Oh my gosh. There's the, and they already had it like getting it ready over by the side, like this band, like a mummy, but like a child. The mock sacrifice they burn. So I saw that and I'm like, okay, because later people snuck back in

Starting point is 01:36:09 but never got video but they got photos of the two seconds over the years I've learned more. So I go back down to the platform, takes me like a mile and a half back, it's a big platform above the Russian river. It's beautiful and all of a sudden, hey, what are you guys doing? And it's these sheriff, and he's got another sheriff's

Starting point is 01:36:23 deputy with him and we're like, what's going on? I'm like, oh, just checking out it's beautiful, they're kind of looking at us. Like, yeah, and we know what you guys doing? And it's the sheriff. And he's got another sheriff's deputy with him. And we're like, what's going on? I'm like, oh, just checking out. It's beautiful. They're kind of looking at us. Yeah. And we know what you guys are. Because we're like, preply dressed. And I guess their gay art was on, but I'm not gay,

Starting point is 01:36:33 but they thought I was. You had a fanny pack, too. So that client and I, what did a sheriff mean? We know what you guys are. What does that mean? We know what you guys are. No, no, no, he's like, what are you guys doing? And I'm like, oh, where were the hillbilly?

Starting point is 01:36:45 How are you doing? And I did that type of tour to the point. Yeah, and he goes, he's like, what's the pass code? I go, red mountain, he goes, all right, all right, we'll have fun. So they go back. So funny. And then we go back and I see like this big bar and music

Starting point is 01:37:00 and then all these guys walking around with wine and stuff. It's like, what's going there? I want to drink. Because I'm like, you know, this is really what? I'm appetite. I'm nervous. I go to a red wine, red wine. I go red wine, red wine.

Starting point is 01:37:10 And then guys are coming, they're talking to me, they're looking at me and like, people are like, hey, what's going on? I'm like, whoa, this is like a gay bar. So I go, okay, I'm getting out of here. Me and Mike, Mike's like, what's going on here? And like, he goes, one of those guys just pinched me on the butt. Didn't, that's where this happened. And so we go out all of a sudden, it's secret service in like, like blue vest.

Starting point is 01:37:29 Yes, what's your name? And I'm like, oh, Alan, Alan Johnson, what's up? And they didn't ask for it. They're like, well, who are you with? I'm with the, I'm with the Hill Bells. And they go, okay, they didn't ask the code word any of that. And so that goes on. And then we get questioned again. And this time, two golf carts pull up with more sheriff's deputies, and these are younger ones. They're like, who are you guys with?

Starting point is 01:37:54 Were you just down those, I said, yeah, I'm here with the hillbillies. What's going on? I'm a guest. They said, all right, all right. And I realized I was going uphill towards the chalet. And I said, maybe you're not supposed to go up here. This is like, like the bushes are down here.

Starting point is 01:38:05 This is like royalty in people up here. And just to make sure, are you filming this the whole time? No, because they only had one hour tapes in this little camera. I know. So I kind of had an hour getting in. I got a little bit of the floating platform and stuff. It's a two hour film. And then I got, and then I got some right,

Starting point is 01:38:20 as it was getting dark, which is incredible. And then I got the ritual. And it ran out magically right at the end. So, but this is the rest of the story because I can talk about for 10 hours, but it's amazing. So I tell Mike, I said, we've got to hide. And there's like another, like a crappy cabin, I go, I bet that's a worker cabin.

Starting point is 01:38:39 And so I go in there and Mike's like, this is nice, let's just stay in here. And I say, no, we gotta get under the building. They're gonna find us in there, there's cameras. So we go out under the back of the case thing about cameras and open up like an access panel and we get under this thing. And there's like millipedes and spiders.

Starting point is 01:38:56 He's like, I don't wanna be in here. I said, we're staying here buddy, we're about to get our cover blown. Okay, yeah, there's footage I got, there were photos of some to the photos I got. So, so, so I'm up above that, cause the chalets up here, like we're talking steep in these golf carts

Starting point is 01:39:11 that are going by, we're hiding up at a thing up above that. Starts getting dark and I go, okay, let me reload the camera, get ready to have a little hole in it here with a hole in the front, I can lift up, this is gonna make shift where I can hit the button on the back. And I say, let's go down to twilight. And we're walking down, there's bats flying in the air

Starting point is 01:39:29 and stuff, it's real beautiful. And we're coming down this road. And they're all eating, and there's these giant tables, and I can just smell the food, and that's looking good. I'm like 100 yards above, looking at all that, I'm like, it's cat. But now it's getting dark, so I feel safe, and everybody's drunk by then, and there goes Danny, Glover walking by, and there's a couple,

Starting point is 01:39:56 he's really old man, they go, they go, and I'm not trying to be racial and feed into the whole leftist thing, but this is the old white guys. I can't believe I look at that, GD, in here, it's all right, so this is the old white guys. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

Starting point is 01:40:07 I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

Starting point is 01:40:15 I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

Starting point is 01:40:23 I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. here. And like, it's all right, it's all right. And I think in a business, I saw Verden Jordan or something too, but the point is, is that, is that, like, builder Burke, he's always the, you know, the black guy that's there, at big lobbyists. And so, that happens, and that's when I saw Clint Eastwood,

Starting point is 01:40:38 because now everybody's going down to the water. So you go around the aisle, almost bank, to then see the aisle, about 60, 70 yards away. And so now it's getting dark. And this high priest comes out and his white robes and red cape and he's got the staff and he says, look, the dead who were here before us, their spirits be here. And so they did and they go through like this cornucopia of Babylon gods, and they summon all these different gods,

Starting point is 01:41:08 but we summon the most powerful that God has to renew us the next year and give us strength and rebuild our bodies and give us the thing we need. And we bring an offering forward to our God so that we will be able to put all of our sin and trouble onto it. And then this open ornate, I'd say like 18th century British carriage, comes out with big glass sides with a coffin on it,

Starting point is 01:41:32 like a five year old size coffin, like a five year old child would be in. And they, a bunch of high, a bunch of priests, like with a whole bunch of guys with torches, I got all this on video. Come out guys with torches in front of the people, I think it was like four people bearing the coffin. They take the energy of the child out and put it in front of it. And then they, and I later when it was the voice of Walter Cronkite, he didn't feel like right before he died.

Starting point is 01:42:01 And so it's like, big on, no, can. And it's a wee on the And is that we forward to see you now Screaming gets on and then and then and then It's like, please don't kill me. No, please Yes, I know to kill you and and and and and I'm sitting there going like it's a play I think they're not taking this serious and I'm having to kind of stand up on the bottom of the redwood knobs Because a lot of these guys are bigger than me. I'm like 510 trying to get the camera over So I'm kind of like up on the tree and there of these guys are bigger than me. I'm like 510 trying to get the camera over.

Starting point is 01:42:25 So I'm kind of like up on the tree. And there's these guys are looking at me. Oh, he's old men. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, I'm like, where's Clint Eastwood? I just saw him. And these old men are sitting there just going, I'm a Christian, but you go to like a Holy Roller church.

Starting point is 01:42:41 And it's great. And it's wonderful. But they're like in Rapshirt and you're like, wow, these people were, but like in a satanic type, you know, they were just going, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, and I'm like, and I'm like,

Starting point is 01:42:52 hey, this is just pretty cool. I'm like, oh my God. I'm just like, and Mike was kind of, and hey, how's it going? They're like, this is important. Right, so you're like, well, they're dead serious. And this is the Carl Robo, five administrations now, of like four at the time in David Gurkin and his fellow legislators at the R&C in New York.

Starting point is 01:43:15 Yeah. And I've got full credentials and stuff and I'm waiting to go in and do more interviews on radio row. Oh, real quick, before I get to this, the guys, are they praying? Are they in the rapture? They're not doing like, doing like people doing a Christian church to be where they're on the rollercoaster. Yeah. Well, I mean, they feel the spirit of God. It's good to do that. And you know, reach out to God. So this is they're they're they're standing on like, they're possessed. Oh, they're soaking it all in. But by the way, where is this when you confront a new york uh... alix

Starting point is 01:43:45 what location this is this is baddest square garden okay let's see let's see the opi entrance go ahead and play it rock and that's the bohemian grow and back in what was a nineteen uh... ninety six when you joined uh... as a clinton advisor they were the republicans were criticizing you all what about bohemian grow and then you counter and and then you counter them by saying, hey, I don't run around in the woods naked. What did that mean?

Starting point is 01:44:08 Here is the before mentioned Washington Times article, where he said I didn't run around naked like they do. I don't know what, I don't know what clothes you're referring to. I'm not aware of any clothes like that. Listen, I am a happy member of the Bohemian Grove. I like the folks who come there and it's really inappropriate for me to talk about the group beyond that. Thank you.

Starting point is 01:44:33 Have you been there for the ceremony with the cremation of care? Frankly, I don't think that's something I need to talk about. This is it. Before India, we thank thee for my adjury. What? That's what the crunch was. We later got documents or internal documents. Have you been there for the ceremony with the cremation of care? Frankly, I don't think that's something I need to talk about. Really?

Starting point is 01:45:04 That's right. Well, I'm Alex Jones and I stuck in there in 2000. I'm going to get a little bit wider. Look at the Maddy Gets. No, the video. It's been on the actual TV. Well, I disrespect you for that. You do?

Starting point is 01:45:13 I do. Because they got maddy. You know a big public official is going in there. You took me deserving of that? You took an under. I don't know anything about you. And I don't know anything about your film. But if you go in there with an understanding,

Starting point is 01:45:21 you violated that understanding by releasing that film. And I don't respect you for that. Really? You took an understanding when you went in there with an understanding you violated that understanding by releasing that film and I don't respect you for that Oh really? You put public up your own thoughts on that I'm sorry, you took an understanding when you went in there that you would not do that film and you did you have an understanding when you went in there? The secret society Alex? Yes Yeah, and it has no trespassing signs there too doesn't it? No, they put me back

Starting point is 01:45:37 Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry sir, I've been there before I know what I was going to have to And I'm sorry you violated the understanding You put a bad word That was not a gentleman anything to do about the ritual is the ritual genuinely Like what is the music of movie? It's like eyes wide shut Sir everything you I don't owe you this comment You have you this is what's called ambush journalism and I disrespect you for that as well

Starting point is 01:46:04 So thank you and goodbye. That's the name of your damn. He would have hit you if he could. That's right. Listen. Listen. You go and violate them. You you ambush people on the streets and that's inappropriate form of journalism.

Starting point is 01:46:21 If you wish to practice that, that's fine, but don't ask others to respect you for it. You can do it. You're free American, like anything you want. If you want to be uncivil and rude and ungenimally, that's up to you. But don't expect the rest of us to say, oh, well, you're not Mr. Gurgon. I'm sorry, nobody says policy in there. We try to be gentlemen. And obviously, you don't belong there. Weaving spiders come out here? Yeah, that is a three-pointer. along that weaving spiders come out here Yeah Three-pointer That guy is no lightweight. He's been a presidential advisor for for Carter The bragging Clinton he's still on CNN. I don't know if it was Carter. I think it was for it

Starting point is 01:47:00 But he's been around the block. He's been around the block doing so after that You know what else did you learn about Bohemian girl? Well, there's a whole other story. So, we get in the hotel, they want copies of it, so they have their digital camera, digital camera, we transfer it, they check it, it's there. I draw, I watch them check it on their little TV, though they have a film crew outside waiting on me.

Starting point is 01:47:21 They mail it to World of Wonder in LA, it comes erased. Then they get me to send them another copy that I saw had it. That one gets stolen. And then we had to mail it for somebody else's house to one of their crew members' houses. So they were intercepting our footage. This is like CIA stuff, trying to get it

Starting point is 01:47:39 to the producers and stuff. So they would have a copy. Obviously I had my original. I went off and put out my film. But they, I got some really serious debt threats over it. I had some stuff happen. And, but you want to play the John Ronson clip on what he said because he wanted to take credit

Starting point is 01:47:56 for the whole thing, I believe, right? Yes or no, I think. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he, well, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, well, what what what what what what what what what what said is he does get credit for it, but he's such a liar

Starting point is 01:48:06 He's since then written pieces about me. They're totally untrue. He went and created a history piece for MPR On whatever their big Sunday show is American Rose, whatever is I forget the name and it's literally completely made up It's like an origin story that I would beat up nerds and they nerds got me and tied me up in a barn and knocked all my teeth out And I went and when he was fact checking, I said, my dad's a dentist, but I'll go to a doctor. They can x-ray that none of my teeth have ever been knocked out. And he goes, well, they still,

Starting point is 01:48:32 so he make this whole fake origin story about me. Because he wrote an article saying, I feel like I have to destroy Alex Jones because I feel like I made him. Because he, me and Grove did explode. No, I made myself go in there and get it, buddy. And you were part of it. But don't, he said, I am enraged that I made Alex Jones. Because we, me and go in there and get in the buddy and you did, you were part of it, but don't, to be, he said, I am in rage that I made Alex show because we

Starting point is 01:48:47 mean Grove really put me on the map. I mean, I was already successful and big, but it exploded back then. And, and so, yeah, I, I, one morning I get a call from my handsome and he goes, because he would get really early. He goes, he goes, John Rottensson's on C-SPAN line about us and, and all this other stuff. And here he didn't go all the way. On the Brian Lamb thing, he basically took some credit but said I was like a bad guy. Then he went on coast to coast to him and I was friends with the host

Starting point is 01:49:13 and I knew he was going on, so I was tuned in. Well, I just called into the studio while he was talking to him and said, this is a lie of the contract right here. He made me sign a contract that they would have rights to it but I wouldn't tell anybody about it because they need to meet a erud so they can erud. So I did this thing with him, this conspiracy, it's not illegal. To cover his ass and then he gets up there and says, I'm bad when he basically quarterbacked

Starting point is 01:49:33 it and then claims he's snuck in and got the footage and stuff. Well, yeah, later he went the lawyer and the passcode came in, but he didn't get the footage, which by the way, he'd sworn me to secrecy in a contract to never say he went in. Then he spins it around and says that I was taking the credit from him. Years after his documentary comes out saying, I'm not going to give him all the credit. I mean, the guy is like the left doesn't know we can check what they said before. It's so annoying. And I don't even hate this guy.

Starting point is 01:50:02 He is the biggest weasel. I mean, I was glad he got me in there I was I was thankful But then he he literally creates an MPR hour long documentary about me that's literally not true Other than one guy that attacked me and I did body slamming or knock him over and he wasn't a coma for a while That's the only thing but why wasn't I arrested because all the witnesses said he attacked me and outweighed me by 60 pounds. So, so yes, that part of the story is true, that's it. But I didn't get arrested. But I mean, it's just, it's all crap. So, so the whole story behind the Bohemian Grove is these guys come together to do what? Do they do deals? Are they making

Starting point is 01:50:42 decisions? Are they, it's no longer as private as it once was. They're no longer. I will tell you what it is. And then this is, I go, this is where it really gets understood. So I don't know much about it when I sneak in. It's like, okay, you're gonna pay me to sneak in and get guys worse than an L.

Starting point is 01:50:57 Sure, okay, I'll sneak into your camp. I mean, I wanted a free trip to Northern California. Okay, so again, I'm a Christian, but I'm like, okay, devil's and devil worship, that's what people do in like on acid and trailer parks. Okay, the world of the leader not worshiping an owl. Okay, this is what like, you know, crazy people on meth do.

Starting point is 01:51:14 This is what actual hillbillies do. You're telling me. I just only don't ever heard about devil worshipers is like, you know, weirdos in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. And so long story short, what's the part I was going to get to? Oh, so after I do this, I start with my PO box about a year after we go to the PO box, there's this big green book and it's the, it's the, it's the annals.

Starting point is 01:51:37 So I think they only come out like every, yeah, like every four years. It's a four year annal. I've got it somewhere around the office. It disappeared at the office, but somebody stole that thing. But the point is, it's in later these things would sell for like $10,000 on what's that thing?

Starting point is 01:51:52 eBay. I mean, I didn't sell them, people started selling them because the guys die and their wives and family get them. And they don't tell their kids, hey, that's a super valuable book that there's only a hundred of made every year.

Starting point is 01:52:03 So there's these big bound books, green books, some of them reds, some of them, at the point, the first one I get is green. I opened up, it's color photos of their rituals, then dressed up like women, all this, you know, gay stuff, pictures of all the world leaders. It's like that thick, I try to put it on the internet. And the problem is info wars had problems and crash,

Starting point is 01:52:19 the old model, we had trouble putting back up, but yeah, there it is. There's an example, type in vintage photos, but he me a grove. And then once I exposed it, National Geographic put out them in satanic black robes doing a human sacrifice with a man and a dagger. So once I exposed it, the floodgates opened, and so they went ahead and put it National Geographic. They have mock sacrifices of black people. There's one right there in the lower right-hand corner lower left-hand corner That's a lower left-hand it was This one here Alex. Yeah, that's yeah, they would do my lynchings of black people what man

Starting point is 01:52:54 You can't make this up. Okay, oh my god And they would actually really kill people is the word a lot of kids disappear in the area But that's an inner cult. So let me tell you what it is We're hanging somebody in the middle one. Go skip through this drop. We gotta go and keep saying it. I'm not making any of this stuff. This is so insane.

Starting point is 01:53:09 So all of a sudden I show this animal on air and I scan it onto my website, info wars, now it's getting millions of views. And all of a sudden about a month later they go, hey boss, another one came. And then another one, another one. And I got this stuff back to the 20s. Oh my God.

Starting point is 01:53:23 So I got, and there's smaller books of the 20s and black and white photos, this stuff. And the 20s. Oh my God. So I got, and they're smaller books of the 20s and black and white photos. There's this stuff. And it's like mock killing black children and mock killing little girls. And like there's a Reagan and Eisenhower and Nixon right there. And that was in the animal.

Starting point is 01:53:37 I put that out. So this is not just a left- I scanned that in my house. I mean, I got that, okay, I got that. So, so this is the stuff. That's one from like the 70s. And so, that's where all this goes down. And so then I became an expert on it.

Starting point is 01:53:55 And then the media would do stuff like, well, it doesn't exist, but here it is in its harmless. You know, that weird thing they do. Like, sure, it gives you blood. Glots put their harmless. So, cancer, yeah, it's connected to cancer. Big deal, everybody gets it. So, sure, it gives you blood clots, but they're harmless. So, cancer, yeah, it's connected to cancer. Big deal. Everybody gets it. So, remember all those articles? Now,

Starting point is 01:54:09 cancer is up, but it's no big deal. But that's what I'm telling you. People last while I'm so animated, when I'm hanging out with the pastor and stuff, they go, man, you're like low energy when we're driving here. And, you know, you want to go take a nap. When I start accessing all the stuff I've done in 29 years, it's all just completely insane. And it all happened. I mean, I've got stories even crazier than this. And now the stuff I've learned, and it's just, it's, we're not in Kansas anymore, we were never in Kansas.

Starting point is 01:54:35 And these people, so here's what it is. I learned this from their annals, and it mentioned men in powers, a political retrospective, written by Helmut Schmitt, the German chancellor. And so I went to the library, found the book, the library had to send off for it, and he says in the book, and it's in my film, shots of it, he said, we love our rituals, our druidic sacrifices in Germany and in other areas, because we are, we're druids. But my favorite

Starting point is 01:55:01 place to do our druidic rights is at the chapter of the order of death at Bohemian growth. And so what it is is a Germanic death cult that's part of it that then founded Skull and Bones, and then Skull and Bones members learned about this, Mark Twain had set it up, where they just partied and got drunk and brought in prostitutes. That got shut down. It became an all-male club and by around, it was always all-male, but they made the hookers stay like a camp right by it, which now hotels, what the hookers stay today. Like gentlemen do. Yeah, like the men are in here, but the male prostitutes get brought in. Exactly. And so basically, it's a recruiting ground, and so, and they don't just have skull and bones at Yale.

Starting point is 01:55:45 They have these skull and bones and all the elite Ivy League colleges where they go, hey son, we're, we're, we're bisexual devilishers and you're, you're the first born son and you're doing good at Yale. You go get these, these coffins. You have demons in her. You have gay sex. You get, you're in a day on, you, you, you bathe for three days and baptize in feces and this is all this is what this is this is all in the good Shepard produced by Robert De Niro starring Matt Damon

Starting point is 01:56:11 Which is a true storm at the fighting the CIA out of scull and bones and it shows them bathing in feces and urinating on each other This is real And Charlotte is there be dad was in it. She released the documents to the Church committee hearings in the 70s. The first time they started to come out. So, so, most of the members have been inducted into these cults. And then they, they, they, they, and then this is just like for graduate sub of it, they go to this and then they can, they get to recruit somebody they like to see if they want to be part of it. And, and it's not all homosexual.

Starting point is 01:56:45 You know, a lot of the guys are heterosexual. And there's a lot of famous bands in there. I mean, you name it, you know, that come and play. And there's a lot of famous actors. And it's not just like dudes everywhere running around having sex with each other. But I mean, that's, that's, that's the big overhang of it. And that's it. And I mean, this is how they, so that's just the Is this, is this a, is this a way to compromise?

Starting point is 01:57:07 Well, I don't know about compromise. Is this a way of now that we have this on you, we can control you forever and we can have it from the beginning? Is that one method because? Yes, and then they move on to the Jeffrey Epstein method, you nailed it. This is about compromising people.

Starting point is 01:57:20 Okay, so, so if I invite you to Epstein, now that you've been here, guess what? For the rest of your life, we're gonna say you've been at this party if we want to leak it to them to the media and in one way or another, you're controlled and compromised because the world can think about, well maybe if you went there as well, you did something as well. So and this is Kay what you just said. I should have got this the first This is their whole whether it's nexium or whether it's Jeffrey Epstein or whether it's this It's all these different feeders, basically the same group to see what they want.

Starting point is 01:57:48 Do they want women, do they want money, do they want men, do they want power? And yes, they then the elite Ivy League people put their kids in it and then they teach them how to go out and recruit other people. What a shitty way of being arrested for the rest of your life, knowing your control. If that's the case.

Starting point is 01:58:02 Well, imagine your dad when you're going to Yale, says, son, you're the captain of the football team. Now, it's time for you to go lay in a coffin, have men have sex with you and defecate all over you. And you're like, dad, I don't want to do that. I have a heart town believe in that. I have a heart town believe in. Robert De Niro made a movie about it.

Starting point is 01:58:19 And it's in the annals. People broke in there. They've got all these. I have a heart town, of father telling his boy, you're gonna go be a captain and they're gonna have sex with men, but for the rest of your life. Well, I mean, it's their buddies gonna mentor it.

Starting point is 01:58:33 And it depends, but the parents, the ones that send them to this. Yeah, I mean, you know, maybe a father has done that who's psychologically off, but I don't see that as well as they admit that the the ritual there is days laying in a coffin wanting entities to interview and to get a new personality and they get you're ended on and they swim in vats of these days. Well, you're in a ton. There's there's a type in type in uh uh satanic uh uh uh uh uh uh

Starting point is 01:59:02 scullin bones ritual scene the good shepherd i mean this is robber denaro producer that's a movie though about how to put the listen charlotte is her b's dad was in it she got the annals of it and lead to to the senate this this stuff came out in the u.s. senate right so that's that's one story we can leave it at that i know it sounds over the top believe me no you listen there's a lot of i didn't believe when they said they worship an owl. Yeah, to me, to me, there is worshiping an owl is strange for sure, but people have worship a lot of

Starting point is 01:59:32 weirder things. If it's a 48-foot owl or whatever it is, the worshipping of weir things has been around since biblical times, it's nothing new that people do. There should be no other God. I mean, this isn't anything new that happens. But for Father to say that to His Son, that's a little weird.

Starting point is 01:59:49 The part about trying to control you for the rest of your life, because they know if you're going to Yale or Harvard, you're going to be one of these fraternities and scullin' bones, they know you're probably going to be somebody, right? John Kerry is Yale. Exactly. He's got a bunch. Yeah, he's got a bunch. So they know this dude's probably going to be somebody, right? John Kerry is Yale. You got the Bush. He's got a month. Yeah, he's got a month.

Starting point is 02:00:06 So, they know this dude's probably gonna be somebody. He's from the right family. Let's get him from now so we can control him forever. I can believe a part of that. That's it. That's what we have the Harvard, you know, mafia. Yeah. I mean, look at that's what I'm telling you is.

Starting point is 02:00:18 And what I said is technically wrong. I'm just talking fast. It's like the parents send their kids there to be recruited into this. I don't think the dad says You're gonna go do this the the dad is pushing them into this to see if they'll go along with it That's because you you've got to debate yourself. You've got to prove you're gonna do this stuff You're right for turning when you have sex with a goat. Well, it's all about debasing yourself Yeah, so and that's what happens at scullin' moans. I mean Again Robert Robert Nero, I mean, Robert Nero,

Starting point is 02:00:46 respected guy, he produced a movie about the history of the CIA being founded at Scullin' Bones and used the Senate annals and what came out in Anthony Sutton to make the movie. Guys, what you want to happen is the good shepherd ritual scene in like YouTube. We can't play, but Andrew Sutton, what you're saying from the movie said.

Starting point is 02:01:04 So let's, let's, let's, let's,'s let's take a two-minute break. Yeah of course. And by the way folks you can find all this at Infowars.com and I need your support. We have signed an unsigned copy piece of the great reset in the world of the world at Infowars.com and I thank you for letting me do that. Alex if you want to you want to use a restroom or you're okay use a restroom. Come back we're gonna transition into the Russia story which by the way I don't know if you have to follow on the story or not. On the cover of CNN, on the cover of Wall Street Journal, on the cover of every website you go on,

Starting point is 02:01:32 the main story right now, Rob, if you wanna pull this up, we'll tee this off before he comes in. The main story, everybody's talking about right now, is what just happened with Russia, okay? Russia and Wagner Group, Russia's put in order's military to crush Wagner Group, grab calls it treason. Now here's a few things you need to know about what this is.

Starting point is 02:01:54 Number one, the guy behind Wagner Group is a guy in him. I want to pronounce this correctly. Yvgeny Progozhian, okay, pre-ogozhian, that's his name. Yvgeny pre-oGojin, okay? Pro-Gojin, that's his name. Yvgeny pre-Gojin, he's a billionaire, it's like the black water of Russia. And this guy is called his man to oust the country's military leadership, meaning he's going directly against Putin's military. So we got to oust the military leadership and he claims the war on Ukraine was based on false pretenses They have roughly 25,000 soldiers, okay? These are a lot of former ex-

Starting point is 02:02:32 Navy SEALs, you know, these are guys that are you know mercenaries. Yeah, these are not regular types of these are people that believe in the cause Yep of what's happening and not doing their job because they have to do their job They're doing their job because they believe in what you've Geni is talking about sometimes people like this are true believers You know 10 soldiers that are true believers going against a hundred that are just doing their jobs Sometimes a 10 has an edge over the other hundred because they believe exactly what they're doing So Robin Hood Exactly so Putin responded the actions of Wagner group are seen as treason

Starting point is 02:03:04 There's a warren out for him right now they got bombed I think he claims they got bombed their unit got bombed their bomb in some you know gas plating a different kind of places that they're taking out putting this telling them to get the sky here this guy being a billionaire you know there's a lot of stuff that's going on right now in Russia do you have one the clips are off to show on what's going on there? I think there's a, whether it's Putin giving a speech or him giving a speech or the explosion, you know, I think one of the videos, Vinny, you may have given to him.

Starting point is 02:03:39 Yeah, see, because they're advancing right now towards, they're saying like they're going towards Moscow right now. Like he's advancing through the streets and there's a bunch of vehicles blown up and they're onto the side and he's actually advancing there right now. What's this year, Rob? Lord of music just so we don't have to,

Starting point is 02:04:00 is there any other thing to, so this is what? This is them pulling up to who? Well, they took over a city called Rostov right now. They're basically marching towards Moscow 25,000 soldiers a lot of them back actually recruited from prisons and Penal camps and they're they're basically saying that this is the most serious threat internally in Russia Essentially a civil war a civil war in country that has twice the nuclear weapons we have. And it's happening right now. So Alex, what are your thoughts on what's going on right now in Russia?

Starting point is 02:04:32 Obviously it's a breaking story. It's all over the place on cover of every website. This is all they're talking about. What do you know about the story? Absolutely. I'm glad we just spent an hour and a half on me, but I was like, let's not talk about me because this, I mean, what I really do study is geopolitics.

Starting point is 02:04:46 Of course, you're a special ops guy. I know you're a hit for your super smart. I watch your show all the time. You know what you're talking about. So I'm really looking forward to me shutting up here, what you have to say, because I'll be honest with people. I didn't talk about the submarine till Friday, because I wanted to see all the pieces. And they lied to us about that.

Starting point is 02:05:00 They knew it blew up on Sunday. They used it as distraction bare minimum. I'm sorry for the dead. And, but on this subject, last night we're driving in here and I'm seeing this news and I'm thinking this is so dangerous this can't be real. And then we were out to dinner late and I saw it last night that it looked like it was real but I just couldn't fathom it. So I spent a lot of time this morning researching this is obviously very fast movie but let me just tell listeners and viewers and I think you'll probably agree with me in any other mainline military analyst would.

Starting point is 02:05:26 This is the most dangerous development in modern history with nuclear weapons, okay? Ladies and gentlemen, Russia has tactical nuke and intermediate range and long range weapons all over Western Russia. The submarines are off our coast. If you know Russian history, if a leader fails a war, they always kill them. Putin is a softliner compared to the hard liners that are trying to take control. And the, I don't know who's working with NATO. I don't know if it is. How do you pronounce the name? I have trouble. Yivgeny? Yes. What's this? How do do you pronounce the name? I have trouble

Starting point is 02:06:08 Evgeny. Yes, what's this? How do you say his last name? I was always butchered The point is is that I'm having one of those moments per gozee this guy per govich. Yes, yes per govich from center I per govich have trouble with Russian and Progo gen per go gen per go gen per go gen per go gen per go gen see even though it's a Russian agent I don't know anyways Per go gen I'm trying to draw the data right now. Pergozion is obviously one of these billionaire oligarchs that runs these catering companies. And he does a lot of siops with Putin, it's reportedly Putin's best buddy.

Starting point is 02:06:38 And he's a former president and all the rest of it. And he's a former friend of Putin. Well, well, Putin's not saying he wants to arrest him, yes. Well, you guys have all the rest of it. And he's a former friend of Putin. Well, well, Putin's not saying he wants to arrest him. Yes. Well, you guys have all the latest developments. What I'm saying is this, we know that NATO has back channels with the Russian central command. And they're both working and not have a nuclear war

Starting point is 02:06:56 behind the scenes. So the question is, is it the Russian, here's the different scenarios. I don't hear you take on it. Is the Russian military working with the West is pergogen working with the West that heads up the Wagner group or are neither of those sides really working with NATO, and this is really an internal power struggle,

Starting point is 02:07:17 and then the other question is, well, will NATO back one of the two and then separately,... is this really the russian military that just bomb pergogen is troops they're gonna act like pergogen launches this attack and then they're really gonna kill putin and then say it was pergogen uh... this is this is this is serious cloak and dagger

Starting point is 02:07:40 fog of war i don't think putin really knows what's going on uh... because that's how Russia operates. It's total, once everybody works in Unison until the knives come out. And right now, there are about all these different factions, all this stuff's going on. And the last time they moved the chairs around in 1999, and Boris Yeltsin disappeared, we got Putin.

Starting point is 02:08:01 So I don't think we know what we do know is, Russia is now under martial law and Moscow is under martial law and what 25 30,000 battle hardened exconvict survivors of the 60,000s have them died that were sent to Ukraine who are credited with winning most of battles because per gogen says that the central command is working with the less and losing on purpose and that they're trying to undermine things to take out Putin and he says Putin is to believe him. Now they say he's trying to come kill Putin so Putin, we haven't seen him say this but

Starting point is 02:08:37 we see him in tech say it that he's going to get per gogen and so I don't think we know at this point this is unbelievably reverting. This just gives me unlimited adrenaline. I mean, I'll guarantee you I'm gonna be scanning and reading and on and up. I'm gonna go do an emergency broadcast today from the pastor's place. I've been here working the whole time,

Starting point is 02:08:59 but I just absolutely have to do this. I'm glad we're here covering it. And now I'd like to hear all the latest developments from you guys. And then see what you think. Alex, is this one of those things where you know, they say that the enemy of my enemy is my friend because this guy, Pat Gozion,

Starting point is 02:09:12 the United States is issued an arrest warrant for him in 2018. This has something to do after the 2016 election. I mean, what do we can go there? But he's no friend of the States. They've been arrest warrant for him. So I know that you kind of alluded like, what's the NATO's involvement here, what do we can go there? But he's no friend of the state. They've been arrest warrant for him. So I know that you kind of alluded like what's the NATO's involvement here, what's going on here, is it an internal struggle.

Starting point is 02:09:30 You're absolutely right. Definitely, there's more questions than answers right now. But the average American is gonna be like, oh, he's gonna poo in, go get him. People, Americans that don't know anything are gonna be cheering for this guy to get pooin' out. The next no idea what the hell they're talking about be cheering for this guy to get booting out. The next no idea what the hell they're talking about.

Starting point is 02:09:46 You just, you just brought it to the key. Yup. And that's why I had to brainstorm first to so many pieces and then I come up with my answer. The bottom line is Putin is a middle of a road guy compared to the hardliners. Progojin wants martial law and nuclear war with the West. He's completely psychotic. I've watched his videos where he says it and he's fearless too. He's after on the front lines for like a year and a half.

Starting point is 02:10:05 The guy's a maniac. And so I mean, Patrick, what do you think? But I mean, the bottom line is, the bottom line is, oh yeah, exactly, let's cheer get rid of Putin. Yeah. Then there'll be a whole new power struggle and you'll get a much more radical Russia. What do you guys, and that's why Soros

Starting point is 02:10:18 and the West were crazy nine years ago to overthrow the Ukrainian government and then run these ops against the Russians to get them to come in. Does make no mistake, I'm not for the Russians either, but the West started this. You're basically saying, be careful what you wish for. You want Putin out of there? Who's next in line?

Starting point is 02:10:32 Absolutely. And for everybody that was like, Russian, Trump and Russian, all the Russia, none of this would have been happening if the Trump was in. So your absolutely regulations for voting for Biden, because this is what you get. Alex, you're saying that this guy is even more hardline anti-West, anti-nado than Putin. Pergotian is five times worse than Putin. Really, how do you know that?

Starting point is 02:10:51 Like what kind of research have you done? I mean, I don't pronounce he his name, but I've been studying him for 20 years. I know who this guy was 20 years ago. I mean, I've been, I've been, I've watched, I mean, he's always been there. He's been Putin's right hand man since he was president before that.

Starting point is 02:11:03 I mean, they came up together at St. Petersburg. And what can you tell us about the essence of the Wagner group? He heads this, but what's the whole purpose of these guys? Well, let's do this first. And then that's because I was a key point I want to make here, or give me a pen. I'll write down. I don't remember to do it, but if I don't, I'll forget. Let me answer your quote. Okay. Thanks. What is the Wagner group? I'll do that. And then I'll do. I forgot what I was gonna say was key. Sorry. That's my brain works per gogeon. You're asking what the Wagner group does. Yes. Okay. It was started 20 years ago by Putin

Starting point is 02:11:39 roughly as his own private mercenary army to kill people he wanted killed inside Russia with plausible denomility and then to kill people around the world and to go take over with mercenary forces in the third world just like China the US doesn't take resources. So they go around and pillage and they also assassinate people for Putin. And apparently they're currently in the all over North Africa, the Middle East, Syria. They were the ones that helped invade Crimea and they're all over Ukraine right now.

Starting point is 02:12:10 They're all over Ukraine and they've been one of the most effective forces in Pergogen has been saying the last year and a half has started. I know the weapons systems, and he's proving he's a good military commander, and I've got military guys, you know, they got out of prison. That's like most is forced, you know, military, you're out. And a've got military guys, you know, they got out of prison. That's like most is forced.

Starting point is 02:12:25 You're military, you're out. And a lot of these are, you know, former special forces guys, some of the best Russian military they've got. And they're all saying, the military is losing on purpose. We think they made a deal with the West and they're gonna take out Putin.

Starting point is 02:12:37 He's been saying that for a year. And so that's why I think they may have tried to kill Putin and blame Progocyan. Cause how does he think with 25,000 troops if he can't take Ukraine and he's only taken into some cities how's he going to go take on the Russians instead of got 10 times the force? Rob can you do me favor just pull up the WS She WS Chase story and let's just read the whole thing. So what what is Wall Street Journal they just came out

Starting point is 02:12:59 they're fairly reasonable and in the middle what's Wall Street Journal saying let's just read this so So President Blun set Saturday, he ordered military to act against Wagner parliamentary group that sees the Russian system. And if you've got that, as Wagner columns moved towards Moscow Saturday, they were attacked by Russian aircraft in the Voronezh region. Some 300 miles out to the capital.

Starting point is 02:13:22 Videos from the area showed the city, main fuel depot ablaze, region, some 300 miles out to the Capitol. Videos from the area showed the city, main fuel depot ablaze, a K-52 helicopter destroying a vehicle, and another helicopter narrowing the escape in a Wagner anti-craft missile. A Russian plane was also shot down. Okay. The crisis unfolding in Russia represents the most serious challenge to Putin's 23-year rule. A direct consequence of the strains put on Russia's society and armed forces by the war that he unleashed against Ukraine in February of last year.

Starting point is 02:13:51 If the Wagner group insurrection isn't put down swiftly, the strife could significantly undermine Russia's frontline troops in Ukraine, just as Kiev carries out a Western-backed offensive to crime-occupied lands. The uprising of the London already emerged in Russia, so society challenges Putin's strategy of wagon, a long war against Ukraine. Okay, so that's not saying anything. What the foregoation is saying, foregoation is saying, we're, we've withdrawn

Starting point is 02:14:19 because our half our troops died to, the Western edge of Russia, they began to bomb us this morning. We are not advancing, this is a lie. And see, notice the footage they say they have is a fuel depot and their base is getting blown up. So the military sees them as a threat and it's taking them out. But here's the larger question,

Starting point is 02:14:41 that was an implicit to you, but I want you to take on this. Notice the timing of this. What happened in the last two months? The Ukrainians launched their counteroffensive two months ago, not two weeks ago, in probes. Then they launched their main attack and not hundreds, but like 400 or 500, I've watched the videos.

Starting point is 02:14:57 I spent days searching and it's not duplicates. The Russians, it takes three times the troops in armor to take a position, you know this from the military, then it does to, to, to, to defend it. So the Russians got torn up going in, but now the Ukrainians have got to go into their defenses. And so it got destroyed. And I've confirmed this from sources of the military,

Starting point is 02:15:17 not as what was in the news, and even CNN admits, okay, the offensive got destroyed, most equipment got destroyed, like half of it. They still got half the stuff the less sent. They're sending more, but they don't have troops to operate it. You got to train them. And so the Russians just destroyed this counteroffensive. Then magically it kicks into gear for a coup against Putin.

Starting point is 02:15:37 That's the next phase if they can't drive them out and have that victory, then next we get Putin. And so again, is the high command working with the West to get rid of Purgogen and Putin and set up their new Russia system, maybe with the West, maybe not, we don't know which group this is. The timing of that fits with the West with the Russian system cutting off Purgogen and Putin,

Starting point is 02:15:59 because these guys are best friends. Now I'm not saying that's what's happening, but you know Putin is it sure. And so right now he's like, okay, we're gonna get per gojian, but I think Putin's main issue is gonna be his own military and his own system, or maybe he's killing his best friend

Starting point is 02:16:12 and does seem as a threat. We don't know, but the Russian defense just annihilated the Ukrainians in the last two months. So why is this coming now? The West would normally go to this next, but this is an overthrow in Saddam by buying off his generals. This is Russia. And this is dangerous

Starting point is 02:16:29 as hell. And this is the same week too that we accidentally sent them what six point two billion dollars. The Pentagon was like, absolutely. Whoops. We sent you crane all this 200 billions really been sent over the last couple of years and guaranteed half that's coming right back to the global 100% 100% so here's obviously it's too early to tell what's really going on but if you think about it those who are for Ukraine this is a beautiful thing because what happens when it's shown that the country is divided that's an easy easy way to come in and capitalize off this is horrible for Russia

Starting point is 02:17:04 this is horrible for Russia. This is horrible for Russia. It's absolutely horrible for Russia. And now the Ukrainians, you know we're gonna launch the next counteroffensive, because only you tap it for. Now the Russians don't know what the hell's going on. The Russians gotta have to withdraw some of the troops from Ukraine to go fight this, to fight in Russia. Exactly, so then who do you think's really behind this?

Starting point is 02:17:19 I, it's the West. Has the mode of, has the timing. I'm not saying it's that, but now we have 60% is like a computer, 60% of the evidence with the mode of the timing, the history, the background, how the West operates, says it's the West. And as we get more data, I'm not gonna like, sit there and just get data that I wanna agree with.

Starting point is 02:17:35 If I get more data showing that this is what's really happening in Pregogin, try this, it's crazy. That's a classic Russian power play, then I'll go back to, well now, it's a 60% chance that it's as we're being told. But I'm just keep taking data. And usually as I take that data, then as it gets closer, it's almost always the analysis I had.

Starting point is 02:17:51 And that's how real Intel stuff happens. So, so what is the difference? I mean, this, you were saying happened to Yelsen, and now, you know, they're on track for doing it with him as well. 23 years, he's been running it, right? We're talking about since 2000, it's been Putin running. And he does look sick, he really has thyroid cancer.

Starting point is 02:18:08 Yeah. Do you think, so when you're saying this could be, you know, catastrophic, et cetera, et cetera, from the nuclear standpoint? Well, the bottom line with this is, this is super destabilization with the number one nuclear power, you know, war zone. This is just on a scale of one to 10.

Starting point is 02:18:24 This is like a 9.8. I 10, this is like a 9.8. I mean, this is like, because why? Because why? Because they've got, because if he retaliates, because if Putin's like, I'm sick of it and I'm gonna retaliate at,

Starting point is 02:18:35 or train, or what, why is this? All of it, exactly. They have a ran corporation threat ladder that's got 43 stages, pull up the ran corporation, 43 stages of escalation. And this came up with this in the 60s and it still followed globally as doctrine, the Russians stopped this as well. And it's the stages of escalation. So it's

Starting point is 02:18:56 the stages of military escalation. And there it is. And so one of the reports, they're always updating it. We're already at like stage 29. Well, when you get up, you know, in any much more, it's nuclear war. It's tactical, and it goes through what both sides do. And you've got a dictator, a strong man, all this nuclear weapons, all these forces battling him, all this craziness, what a Putin falls,

Starting point is 02:19:24 what is the whole thing disintegrates? Then we're to all the nukesco or what's Ukraine gonna do? And then other power groups, Poland's been talking about grabbing part of Ukraine that was always part of them. I mean, it's just like World War II. Once this stuff starts, it just gets out of control. The only difference is like for people that hear that and sometimes they get, you know, panicked, oh my God,

Starting point is 02:19:41 it's just gonna lead to World War III. Jesus, the difference from my understanding, the difference between the access Putin has to nuclear bombs versus the way we have it. He can't just press a button and approve it. There's gotta be multiple layers of approval that he has versus the way we have it, right? Is that a package, I mean, he's-

Starting point is 02:19:59 No, no, no, no, no, that's not how it works. If you can pull up the nuclear protocol for Russia, it's a, there is a different layer of approval for him to choose to do something like that. Look, let's face it, from, in the last hundred years, how many times has the nuclear bomb been dropped? Not much. Why?

Starting point is 02:20:17 Yeah, of course. Eroshima Nagasaki. But, yeah, but if a guy, Pat, what do you wanna say? With dirty bombs and like little suitcase bombs, and for a guy that is dying, and a guy that's guy that's dying is pretty much it looks like he's good. They're attacking the capital and about to take him over. Why not just be like, you know what I'm going down.

Starting point is 02:20:32 I'm going down. Well, here's Neil. Why do you think he just gave Nukes to bail a roast? That's his backup. Oh, wow. Rob, is that it? It says here, following the American pattern, the unlock and launch authorization codes held by the general staff at their command centers

Starting point is 02:20:47 Can be sent directly to individual weapons commanders who would execute the launch procedures the cruise on board dock summaries have demonstrated the ability to fire while surfaced at Pier side within nine to 15 minutes after receiving the order the other alternative the general staff could direct order the other alternative the general staff could direct uh... could direct missile launches directly from command centers in the Moscow vicinity or alternative facilities uh... throughout the country but doesn't say that who can could directly well you can't do the the the way they have it is which i which i think that's the right way to do it i think i don't think a nuclear call

Starting point is 02:21:22 should be i think it's dangerous that Biden has that crazy man that doesn't know who he is could like just say watch the web. I think we all know he doesn't have that. I think you know, I don't even know if his button works the other day he was putting his hand on his chest on. But working working I was at it. I was a flight security controller announced for my for his base montane at a nuclear missile base. There's too to launch a nuclear weapon. There's so many stages, Pat. And then it goes down to the Missileers who have to get authenticated.

Starting point is 02:21:50 No, because let me tell you what would happen if they did a nuclear. It wouldn't be what happened with Japan. It would be so many people involved. It would be back and forth. Economy drops 50%. The market drops. It's over. Too many people are involved to not allow this from happening. That's right.

Starting point is 02:22:08 The tactical weapon even gets used, the market drops 50%. That's what animals believe. But the point is, I'm not trying to be aluminum. I'm just saying Russia, with the biggest nuclear arsenal in a civil war with a major war on its border, we've got a crazy president. I'm just saying, I see all these pieces, people better be concerned. No, no, no. And by the way, there's some rumors right now

Starting point is 02:22:27 on Twitter talking about the fact that, you know, Putin's left Moscow. I don't know if you saw that or not. Putin left. No, he did leave. Yeah. Yeah, Putin left Moscow. Where did he head to?

Starting point is 02:22:35 He's got an armor train. They're not sure if the train left. Alex, you know what would be interesting right now? How closely do you follow the Doomsday clock? Very closely. It's like 18 minutes to it. Okay, I'd like to see where that's at right now. It should have gone up.

Starting point is 02:22:47 I think it was 18 minutes to last time I checked. That's the international atomic energy, atomic scientist group. Right, how often do you check this? I check it. It's usually in the news when it goes up, so I see it. You're like, watch.

Starting point is 02:23:00 This is my watch right here. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it was 18 minutes to before, let's see where it's at now. It is a hundred seconds to midnight, apparently. Oh my gosh, so I've never, okay, okay, okay. They just changed it and I agree with that because it was 18 minutes, they moved it for like 20 minutes to 18 and now it's a minute and a half or less.

Starting point is 02:23:22 What can the average person do to even explain to the average person? What does mean from 18 to 20 minutes to 18 is to 100 seconds to midnight back up to where it was in 1980 1990. So just give some context, right? He'll have some images. Yeah. It's two minutes to midnight. So basically the clock is getting closer and closer and closer and closer and closer. Midnight means, well, it goes up and down. I go to the early 96's, it's a human mental crisis. That was like they said was the worst. Two minutes, three minutes, 12 minutes. So two minutes, so three minutes to midnight is 1949. Two minutes

Starting point is 02:24:01 to midnight is 1953. There's a going for the back or no rob. That's it. Okay, keep going up. Let's just say go to the world war two. Keep going up, keep going up. So we got seven minutes, four minutes, three minutes, six minutes, nine minutes, 14 minutes, seven minutes, 10 minutes, seven minutes, five minutes, six minutes, five minutes, two minutes, two minutes, three minutes, three minutes, keep going, two minutes.

Starting point is 02:24:22 Hundred seconds was 2020, Hunter seconds, 2020, it's still the same thing. A hunter seconds, 2022. So during COVID, and does it have it for today? During COVID, and now it's a hunter seconds, it's not changed, okay. I think that's some kind of article. There's an actual clock, the press release,

Starting point is 02:24:43 the point is that's their feeling on it. I would just say this moves the clock towards it. As Dooms clock moved, check to see Rob, if the Dooms day. Well, let me ask you guys this question. If they get rid of Putin and they put a less hard line guy, and will that embolden the war mongers in DC to launch more crap? Because they want to go to war with China. And I don't like China and I don't like Xi Jinping.

Starting point is 02:25:14 It's just like the Chinese people, but I mean, I hate the Chinese what they do and everything. But I mean, they're really trying to sell a war now with China. This is getting nuts. And if they are able to defeat Russia by overthrown Putin with a bunch of intelligence operations, I mean, this is just gonna make them more hungry. Well, let's see what happens here. I wanna transition into what happened yesterday

Starting point is 02:25:35 with Karina. Karina jumped here. If you wanna play this clip, because this clip was, not a good day because nobody was giving up. Typically, it would, somebody that will come and maybe they'll do it one time and everybody else will change because it's getting a little bit too uncomfortable.

Starting point is 02:25:51 This is probably the most uncomfortable I've seen her maybe ever, okay, if you wanna play this. Yeah, she's like, she's like, what's the reference path? Pat, this is, they're asking her. That's not something I wanna see her do. So, they're asking her about Hunter's text about Chinese business man going to my father is right here with me.

Starting point is 02:26:11 You better send this, you better do this. This is the, Kirby just walked off before this, but this is her. Do you have the Kirby clip to show before we go to this one? I'll get the Kirby clip after this. Okay, so good I'm playing this one. You'll watch this. Secondly, the president invited his son Hunter to the state dinner last night. I'm wondering if you could take us into the thinking and decision making of why the president decided to invite him. I'm just not going to get into family discussion.

Starting point is 02:26:36 It's personal family discussion. As you know, Hunter's his son. I'm just not going to get into that. What does that do? If Hunter Biden wasn't the president's son, would he have invited someone who had just reached a plea agreement with federal prosecutors? A couple of things, again, that's his son. He's a family member. It is not uncommon for family members to attend events at the White House. You could look at past presidents, I'm sure you have. So that is not uncommon.

Starting point is 02:27:01 As it relates to anything related to Hunter. I see the new video, 100 from here. Yeah, hopefully that can follow up on that. I just called in some way, you go ahead. Yeah, so, but I mean, so Curlywood, and answer James's question, though, are you gonna answer the question? I'm not on a reasonable question to ask

Starting point is 02:27:17 with a positive, nice, state, who's involved in this. I thought this was a lot of things. I just thought that they're asking in some sort of a coercive conversation for business dealing by a son Is that something if you want to break it maybe you should tell us So here's the thing I appreciate the question. I believe my colleague at the White House Council He has answered this question already has dealt with this has made it very clear

Starting point is 02:27:39 I just don't have anything to share outside of what my colleagues have shared I Would refer you to him and the DOJ. Another question coming from here. I would, what I can tell you is I know that my colleague has dealt with this. He addressed this, though at the White House Council, I just don't have anything else to share. I just answered the question. I just answered the question.

Starting point is 02:28:03 I just answered, Stephen. Stephen, I just answered the question. I just answered the question. I just answered the question. Steven, I just answered the question. I just said, this is not up to you how I answered the question. I just answered the question by telling you my colleagues at the White House Council has dealt with this and I would refer you to them. Another one coming. Can you just remind us what your colleagues said from the White House Council, so we have it. I would refer you to them and they will share their statement with you. No question about your statements from that podium.

Starting point is 02:28:30 You've stated that the President's standby is comment from the 2020 campaign that he never once discussed his sons overseas business dealings with his son. And you stood at that podium and you reaffirmed that. Do you stand by your reaffirming? I will say is nothing has changed. Nothing has changed.

Starting point is 02:28:47 And I will leave it there. Anything else? I will refer you to the White House Council. They're asking the White House. I just answered the question. You just asked me, does my statement change? I just told you nothing. No wonder, really, it's trust the White House.

Starting point is 02:28:59 Another one coming. Go ahead, the president is there. Yeah, Steven. Let's, Steven. I'm calling on your colleague right now. Yeah, thank you for your help. To follow up on my colleague, if you're anything that you can't say with regard to-

Starting point is 02:29:12 No matter who she goes, she doesn't want to stop. And what the President's son was alleging was the President there or not? I would refer you to my colleague's appointment. So, yeah, zero. No credibility. And I would refer you to them. Good. But and I would for you to them good but that's like the old grass Tyson

Starting point is 02:29:27 the president about this have you asked him this is they won't be a big this is a whole you know had with the president again I will okay positive for second and I want to finish this let me see why this is horrible let me see why this is horrible here's why it's horrible because okay flippinance of what the same thing happened with Kellyanne, you know,

Starting point is 02:29:45 Macanany, or et cetera, and said, no, the difference is, that was, this is liberals, Republicans, left, right, every single outlet wants to know the same exact thing and she keeps giving the same answer. Matter of fact, finish it up real quick. I want to watch the whole thing. It's almost done. And then go to Kirby right after that. Go ahead, and then we'll go to the same answer. Matter of fact, finish it up real quick. I want to watch the whole thing. It's almost done. And then go to Kirby right after that.

Starting point is 02:30:05 Go ahead. And then we'll go to the 100 clip. House Council. Do you have that conversation with the president? No. Did the president speak with the attorney general at all? I cannot say if the president had had a conversation with the attorney general last night.

Starting point is 02:30:20 What I can refer you to is the White House Council's office. As it relates to the allegations, they've already addressed this. This is something for them to deal with. I refer you to is the White House Council's office. As it relates to the allegations, they've already addressed this. This is something for them to deal with. I refer you to the Department of Justice like anything else if you don't want to speak to the White House Council's office. And there was reporting earlier in the week

Starting point is 02:30:34 that after the plea agreement was reached by Hunter Riding, that the President felt relieved that that part of it was behind him. Is that true? Can you say that? I can't speak to the President.? I cannot speak to the police. I cannot speak to the police. Go to Kirby.

Starting point is 02:30:47 And then we'll watch the... Yeah. What? Go to Kirby. Pathetic loser. Yeah, watch this here. Look how smug he is. I hate this guy.

Starting point is 02:30:55 I would punch him in the face if I could. House Ways and Means Committee, yesterday released documents. Their authenticity, nowhere, a challenge. That included a July 2017 WhatsApp message sent by Hunter Biden to Henry Zhao, a Chinese Communist Party official, which stated in its entirety, and I quote, I am sitting here with my father,

Starting point is 02:31:19 and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled. Tell the director that I would like to read, is all this now before it gets out of hand and now means it's not an ed. If I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction. I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father, unquote.

Starting point is 02:31:47 So just a couple of questions about this. First, does this not undermine the President's claim during the 2020 campaign and the reaffirmations of that claim by his two press secretary since then that he never once discussed his son's overseas business dealings with him? No, and I'm not going to comment for a second. Yeah, of course you're not going to judge. I'm not going to judge. James, James, let me just, let me save you some, let me save, let me save you some breath.

Starting point is 02:32:14 If you're going to ask about this, I am not a dress, I don't, I know you do more than I'd like you to have. I am not going to address this issue from this podium. I was like, okay, I'm sorry, I'm not going to do it. You're not going to judge the person. You're not going to judge the person. You're not going to judge the person. You're not going to address this issue from this podium. I was like, okay, I'm sorry. I'm not going to do it. It's the president. You got to get the hell out of there, you rat. Thanks guys, have a good night. I mean, look at her.

Starting point is 02:32:30 She's disgusted. She knows she's next. No, she's next. She knows she's next. Okay, I'm next. Guys, guys, guys, while rushes collapsing, this is the collapse, but think about this. In fact, there's never got a lot of traction.

Starting point is 02:32:42 When the Hunter Biden thing came out like three years ago, right before the election, we played the audio. You can find this where you can type in Hunter Biden, talks about his Chinese spy handler. He's like, dad, I haven't talked in three months to the head of Chinese intelligence. He's worth $25 million. He's giving us millions.

Starting point is 02:32:59 I think they may have gotten him. We're not in control of the Chinese communist. They're, what are we gonna do, daddy? I mean, there's audio of him. He saved audio messages. He sent his dad. And it's got like no attention at the time. Yeah, I'm telling you, you can pull these up.

Starting point is 02:33:13 So there's audio of stuff like this. Did you know what CNN did yesterday too? You know CNN, because they have to spin it, right, Pat? They said, oh, what are the dates? Hunter was on crack cocaine. You can't blame him for, he probably made that up because he was on crack cocaine. You can't blame him from he probably made that up because he was on crack cocaine. How appropriate. How a probably what's the recent video that's come up for Hunter? What's what's the most recent thing that came up about? He was

Starting point is 02:33:35 flipping out yesterday about 10% for the big guy. He was the bag man for his dad. Yeah. And that's the whole point. He's the most untouchable crack head on the planet. You know that. He could do crack, have videos with underage girls doing whatever he wants. Have you seen his dad say, when he was a senator, if you're black, you get caught with cocaine, you get five years in jail, it's right there. You got to play this. You got to play this. You know, he says, yeah, this is Mr. Not racist for all you people that voted for him.

Starting point is 02:33:57 Look at him. If you have a piece of crack cocaine, no bigger than this quarter that I'm holding in my hand. One quarter of one dollar. Look at the president's son. We passed the law through the leadership of Senator Thurman and myself and others. A law that says, you're caught with that. You go to jail for five years.

Starting point is 02:34:22 You get no probation. You get nothing other than five years. You get no probation. You get nothing other than five years in jail. Unless you're my son. He doesn't have a choice. Under our four-fifth-year status, you can, the government can, take everything you own. Everything from your car to your house, your bank account, not merely what they confiscate in terms of the dollars

Starting point is 02:34:47 from the trade. It's a misdemeanors. You're just smoking a car, right? Engaging it. You can take everything. I don't care why they've become a sociopath. We have an obligation to cordon them off from the rest of society.

Starting point is 02:35:00 They are in jail, away from my mother. From my mother, our family. So I don't want to ask what made them do this? They must be taken off the street. Yep, rules for thee and not for me. She's a scumbag. Meanwhile, he's the go-between with the Chinese Communist. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:35:24 I mean, I mean, take take Swalas well take fine Star they all had like Chinese wall how does he was? Denning Fangfang or what was her name? These are operatives in their operations spies They were dating spies, bro. It's unbelievable, but but you know you know what I I got to say credit for Guys were making progress because people are asking the question now. This leads me to the next question with you Alex is because people are asking the question now. This leads me to the next question with you, Alex. Is, okay, so did you see Newsom on Hannity? Did you see how we did? I didn't.

Starting point is 02:35:52 I think he did very well. Oh, American Psycho Slikers, I think he did. I think he did. Very, very well, if you're a Democrat, if you're Democrat, Newsom was 10 times more presidential than Biden was. And it's not even close. Okay. So for him to have the audacity to go to Fox's best today, which is Hannity today, not

Starting point is 02:36:13 Tucker, but Fox's best today, Hannity, he goes and sits with him and he hangs and he pushes back with Hannity. So from your perspective, you know, you made a comment earlier about Newsom, is this the reason why these guys are asking a question, are they kind of trying to corner Biden for him to step out so Newsom can go run? Is it going to be a Newsom desantis, Newsom Trump? What is this going to happen, you're? Patrick, I'm so glad you brought that up because I have this problem when I hitting the

Starting point is 02:36:39 most obvious thing, you're absolutely right, that's it. They're getting ready to take out the garbage with Biden. I think they'll probably kill him or or he'll die in his sleep, or he'll have to fall down some stairs. Fall down some stairs, or be drugged, or whatever, or at least be in a coma very soon. And I've got very high levels, horses, that are, they got people dug in the Democratic Party,

Starting point is 02:36:59 Roger Stone's totally dolled, and he was on my show yesterday. And he said, they're crazy enough that they're thinking, this is what Democrats are saying right now. Okay. Big mic, Michelle Obama and, uh, and then VP Newsome or Newsome. But, uh, Obama is, he's the real president right now. You know, third term elected. We have a video. Uh, he, he's now coming back out and saying, well, I'm involved now. So yeah, they're getting ready to get rid of Biden. That's only reason those reporters are all on a leash None of them will never ask a question from two and a half years suddenly. They're all attacking. Yep

Starting point is 02:37:30 It's because they've been let off the leash because Biden was supposed to like he said right before he Won the election remember he said well, if I don't do what I'm told I'll probably just develop somewhere disease and and resign remember that quote? Yep. He said it multiple times, letting them know, hey, I'm your man. Well, he's still his brain was still there. Remember the deals then. But according to Roger Stone, other sources and Roger's dead on, he hangs out with,

Starting point is 02:37:55 he talks to some of the high level Democrats. Jill Biden is telling you don't leave. She likes the power and he's told them F off. In fact, now he's not even following Obama's orders. You think so? No, I mean like, oh yeah, oh yeah. Jill's in charge. Jill's in charge because he didn't know who he is.

Starting point is 02:38:11 I mean, she literally, remember he walked out the wide as he said, my butt's been wiped. I was told by the NYPD and Secret Service a year and a half ago when he went, remember he kept showing up late and changing clothes like three times? That when he gets mad when he goes in these weird, because they get him on speed, the much stuff to roll him out and hope it's okay.

Starting point is 02:38:28 It's not now. But when he gets mad, he takes a big dump in his drawers. I'm serious, okay. You've got him saying my butt's been wiped. So that goes to Alex. He said, he did say that. I said, I said, can we fact check?

Starting point is 02:38:41 Yeah. Alex claimed that he said that he would develop, Biden said that he would develop some sort of cognitive disease and resign if he didn't follow the plan and here's the clip but all kidn a side the first lady to be told me she holds them for you yes she does but not with the she's because she's she and come to become friends but all kidn a side

Starting point is 02:38:59 it's it's a matter of the thing we are some patico on our philosophy of government and simpatico on how we want to attach approach these issues that we're facing. So I don't have, and when we disagree, it'll be just like, it's so far, it's been just like, I'm rocking I did. It's in private. You'll say, I think we should do ABC or D, and I'll say, I like A, I don't like B and

Starting point is 02:39:22 C, and it's okay. And I like, I told Barack, if I reach something where there's a fundamental disagreement we have based on a moral principle, I'll develop some disease and say, after resign. We don't have that, we haven't, and we discussed it the length. It's your face. Our views are far from our point of view. And Alex, have you ever, because he said this multiple times. But look how much he's declining three years.

Starting point is 02:39:49 Oh, that's why. I mean, he's a little daughter, but he's, that's a, I mean, he's gone. Yeah, but he wasn't even there. It's not a mill, it's a little, you know, a mill kind of takes a little matter. But then later it's like cottage cheese and just open, I mean, he's now a rotting cart in a mill.

Starting point is 02:40:01 And Alex, how many times have you heard him say the president of the United States, hey, I can't, I gotta get out of here. They told me I can't do this or they told me I can't say that no He's a bit but he found that clip I forgot about there's another where he says look I'm not you know, I'm not doing what they want. I'll just get a disease and resign He said it at least why so there's he said it in the current context like a year ago or something So I'm just sitting or now this is the clip where he says the white president talks about his butt. Good.

Starting point is 02:40:26 Good. What? My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped.

Starting point is 02:40:34 My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped.

Starting point is 02:40:42 My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt's been wiped. My butt to get distracted. I don't want to get the guy's problem. Let me just ask the question. Here's the question. The question is, Newsom, the Santas, Newsom Trump, Biden, Trump, what's gonna end up happening? Well, I mean, Trump was five, six points ahead of Biden. He got indicted. And now he's like 15 to 20 on, and we're signing their polls. It's a spectrum. He's in a in a bunch of national polls of Republican voters.

Starting point is 02:41:14 He is 57 on the low to 72 points ahead. I mean, the whole field, Chris Christie, all of them, uh, uh, your governor here to Sanis, they are getting 30, 35 points. Them and then Trump gets all the rest. So and the more they I'm like I remember when they and died in a few weeks ago They go well the the new the New York indictment of Alvin Bragg that made him go up But this time people are gonna turn on him. No. He won up like five 10 more points up to that So I guess if they and I'm like 18 more times 11 like 99% with Republicans I mean people know that they're telling them, like, you got a dog, it's a sweet dog,

Starting point is 02:41:48 but even it's a Labrador or a treacher. You start trying to take some away from it, it's gonna tug a war with you. And they're telling you, can't have Trump, can't have Trump, and it's just the more they do it, the people are getting madder and madder, and I want this, I want this, and it's just insane. So it's the unstoppable object.

Starting point is 02:42:04 Unmovable object. Unmovable object comes into contact with the unstoppable force. And it just explodes. And so I mean, they intend to die him on January 6th for the electors. They're trying to cook it up. This is a 20 page article three days going to watch the post that I commanded the attack on the Capitol, Trump, completely insane. And didn't even talk to Trump for like a year before that. Try to stop people going to the Capitol when I got there. We had a whole stage booked with the, booked with the Capitol police and everything

Starting point is 02:42:34 for him on the Northeast corner. And we get there, there's no police, no one. They just left us high and drive and set us up. Now they have congressional reports that DC police, when the ones dressed up, breaking in and then getting the idiots to go in behind them. I mean, Congressman have said that. Congressman has seen that they're now releasing

Starting point is 02:42:52 the footage of the DC. Are they gonna succeed? Are they gonna succeed to prevent him from running? I mean, they're succeeding in a civil war and right now in Russia. I mean, yeah, the global size act was powerful in the world with all our ingenuity and all our money and all our power and the world's in deep trouble.

Starting point is 02:43:09 And again, it's not like I'm saying China or Russia are good, either it's just a monster situation. And if people don't get serious to get out of their comfort zones, yeah, I think they'll, I mean, I think they're gonna demonize him and die him and die him and die him and die him. And then I think they'll blow his airplane up.

Starting point is 02:43:23 I really, at a gut level, believe they're gonna kill Trump. Who's this? Trump? No, I mean, I believe the deep state establishment will murder him. I mean, I believe he's gonna steadfast go through all this. He'll be 30 points ahead in the primary. He's nothing's gonna stop him.

Starting point is 02:43:38 And then they just, he dies of a heart attack which is they poison or they blow his airplane up. And I think, and Trump, by the way, he's talked to Roger and others and said, I'm ready to die. I'm committed. I'm going all the way. So you think you think if they, if they, you know, you're saying they're going to do that, they would have already done it. Like why haven't they already done it? Because that turns him into a martyr and they, and they'd rather assassinate the person. They saw how what Jay have catered to him. I mean, this will be 50. I mean, look, they

Starting point is 02:44:02 are not the higher ups and some of their smarter ones are not stupid. They're like, if we kill him, it'll cause way bigger problems down the road, don't do it. But before they let him get in charge and prosecute them, which Trump said he will, he goes, I'm getting in, I'm gonna, I'll be destroyed and you'll be destroyed with me, or they'll be destroyed, it's a death battle.

Starting point is 02:44:21 This isn't like some cage fight with Zuckerberg and everybody's like, oh, Zuckerberg and Elon Musk's biggest thing ever. Yeah, great. Two modern impers tech titans, when Rome was collapsing, they had impers as gladiators. The moody gladiators actually get a composite of a bunch of true stories. That really happened.

Starting point is 02:44:35 And the whole point is, while we're all watching this stupid stuff in the submarine and the gladiators, literally the president who, I believe won the election, I'm supposed to say that. Oh, he, he, he barely lost. Um, Trump now to have them put him in jail so we can't vote for him or whatever. It's just not going to fly. It's not going to happen. And so, but but at the same time you saw what come in other settle TV. Well, whatever we do, we got to stop him. He can't be allowed in because he'll put us in prison. And remember, you can pull this clip up.

Starting point is 02:45:05 Biden said, last December, like December 13th, as I put the clip last week on my show, he said repeatedly, Biden says we will not allow Trump to be president again. And he says, we'll use whatever we have to with law enforcement in the constitution to make sure he's not president. And he just laughs arrogantly.

Starting point is 02:45:24 He's like, he's like, hey, what about Hunter? He's like, ha, ha, ha, ha, you know, it's just, it's, it's lunacy. But, but times running out. So they still have the power. They're still the executive in control. So if you're the guy with the doomsday button, you can hit it. You think you win, but you blow yourself up at the same time. So they will, they've already destroyed themselves.

Starting point is 02:45:44 The only question questions can they take us with them. Alex, what do you say about some of the people that are saying, the left is too calm during all this and they're going to, they're planning something. Let's just say during the election year, another pandemic is probably going to hit, which they've been warning us about that, even the who by their, he said it, Biden said, and you can find that Rob. And I quote, there's going to be a second pandemic. It's like he's a cyclic. There's an internet apocalypse there talking about or even like a staged alien invasion. Do you feel like something? Well, you just said it.

Starting point is 02:46:09 Other than that's a great question. How do they stop Trump? Yep. He dies in a sleep, he's a poison, more naturally dies. I don't think it'll happen. I think I have a strong horse. That's Scottish German blood. He's got one there.

Starting point is 02:46:17 And then, um, so there's that. And absolutely a stock market crash, so there's that, and absolutely a stock market crash, an EMP that knocks out the power for a few months. Oh, we can't have it right now. Another virus through the mail-in thing. People are saying, in fact, the UN says imminent virus coming.

Starting point is 02:46:35 I think, yeah, there's a lot of ways for them to skin the cat, but I'm telling you, these indictments aren't working. They're not. So, so you're saying, based on what you're saying, you're saying it's still gonna be no some Trump, is that what right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now,

Starting point is 02:46:47 right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now there's discussions, this is real. There's discussions of Michelle Obama

Starting point is 02:47:05 as the president and Newsom or should it be Newsom president, Michelle Obama, lies president. That would be, by the way, that's gonna be tough to be. It's a powerhouse. That's gonna be tough to be, so what do you think? They're both incredible men. What do your thoughts on the sand?

Starting point is 02:47:16 Alex. Can I just, I'm just joking, John Rivers made a joke about it. She did, she died two weeks later. What do you think about the Santas? What are your thoughts on the Santas? I think the Santas, when he was running his own show a few months, six months ago, was heartfelt, doing great things, standing up and stuff, really doing a great job for Florida.

Starting point is 02:47:35 Then he started getting with Republican strategies, Karl Rove, and Jeb Bush, and they're now advising him. Now he's following a script, and he's not being authentic. And as soon as they indicted Trump, Trump went, you know, 30 points ahead of him. So, I mean, to Sanis, he's to know, he's being kamikaze into Trump and that the system knows he's not gonna beat him. And they're not gonna let the Sanis have it either.

Starting point is 02:47:56 And so to Sanis, he's to understand that he should get behind Trump and reprieve himself. And Trump's not perfect, but now that they're trying to take my right to vote for him, and the fact that he's got such balls and doing this, I would be a coward, because that's gonna have to be because of the support. I've been told, leave, stop supporting Trump

Starting point is 02:48:12 and all your problems will stop. I mean, I've been told that in mediations, okay? I'm not supposed to talk about that, but I mean, it's literally stop this, do back off and we'll leave you alone, or you're done. I'm like, hey, at a certain point, I can't just roll over and be a coward.

Starting point is 02:48:23 So you've made me be all in for Trump. I mean, I just can't do it as a man. I can't be told, you know, I mean, down in Texas, what the mafia never did too well, because you tell them to come to hell, but it's something there. I'm gonna take over your business guy

Starting point is 02:48:32 just pull this gun out, you know, I'm shoot you. You may similar guys get me later, that's great. My kin folks are coming for you. So I just can't, I just, it's not even like a macho thing. I just can't, I can't be pushed around.

Starting point is 02:48:41 I'm gonna die then. That's okay. But the point is, you're gonna die too. At a certain point these guys gotta figure out, you'll fire a musket but I'll run you through. The Iron Maiden's first opening line of the trooper. You'll fire a musket but I'll run you through. So Alex, let me kind of bring this in for a second.

Starting point is 02:49:03 You've made some opinions, some claims, some thoughts, some jokes, some hyperbole, all that. My opinion, and then I'm gonna ask it to, I don't think Barack Obama is running the country right now. My opinion, I don't think Michelle Obama is a man. I don't think she was ever a man. My opinion, I don't think Gavin Newsom is gonna be that dude that's running. He has done

Starting point is 02:49:26 nothing but endorse Biden. Okay, I'm going somewhere with this, right? At the same time, I don't think they're gonna kill Trump. I think he's gonna be that dude on stage. I think he's going to probably be the nominee. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. I don't think he's going to kill him asleep. I'm just, you know how you say, sometimes just get a face reality and see what's in front of your face. I think at the end of the day, it's going to be a Biden Trump presidential debate. And then here's my question, don't you want that? Don't you want that?

Starting point is 02:50:02 That's my freaking point. Don't you want that if Biden is as nuts, lost, delusional, as people say, don't you want Trump to expose that on a national stage and prove everybody right? But of course, but I don't and they may as a sick joke, let him debate a vegetable, and then still steal it from him. All I know, no, no, no, no, because they're going to debate. And then the world is gonna see whether or not Biden is competent or not,

Starting point is 02:50:31 because you could say whatever you want about Trump, he hasn't lost a step. He still has energy, he's still there. Whether you think he's a criminal, or you think he's a hero in a deity, he hasn't lost a step. Biden clearly has. But don't you want that,

Starting point is 02:50:45 don't you want that basically that rematch to basically. 100% rather than not. Well, let me just tell you this. And I just said this before it came out and he said it on Joe Rogan show that he's where the CIO killed him. They killed his dad and his uncle. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. doesn't want to give speeches out in the public now because he knows it's, I mean, that's real. And let me tell you a Trump knows there's plans to kill him. And I think it's some crazy to do it. That plausible liability they will. They shot Ronald Reagan and then hit me juniors, you know, was having dinner with with the bushes and Colorado three days before. I mean, this is serious. Look at a dimmer post. So, so, so this is Rob.

Starting point is 02:51:22 Look it up. Do you hear what he said? What's the Denver public? Well, it was it was it was it was Hinkley's brother and dad were having dinner but he was also best friends with the Bush's CIA Hinkley's having dinner with Bush's week of Reagan make shot. Anyways They let him out of prison recently. What I'm getting at here is that This is from real politico's. This is from Roger Stone Okay, I mean the guy got Trump to run okay and what I'm telling you is is that is that they say they're the

Starting point is 02:51:54 utilities puff pieces about Michelle Obama and and and you'll get a news and rest of it Biden could die at any time I mean he just fall over so I'm telling what real people are telling me it doesn't mean they're totally right okay and. And, and you know, as for Michelle Obama, of course, Michelle Obama is a beautiful woman. And, and of course, I'm serious, I'm gonna say this. Of course, Joan Rivers was just joking. She was in the river's club. Joan Ray, of course, said it. And then she died what two weeks later, because she was fucking 88 years old.

Starting point is 02:52:21 Ah, well, the timing is perfect. Time is perfect. But can I say one thing? Alex Jones, you've been called a conspiracy theorist. Meet your master. Yeah, congratulations. Well, I'll take it. Well, you just said that Obama, you don't think Obama's one in the country. This was Obama on Stephen Colpair, the leftist hack show,

Starting point is 02:52:39 two years ago. Can you play what he said about the presidency? Go ahead, go ahead, Rob. And what you know now, do you wish, like you had a third, a third term? You're right back. You're saying, yeah. And I used to say, you know what, if I could make an arrangement where I had a, I had a stand-in, a frontman or a front woman and they had a near-peace end and

Starting point is 02:53:02 I was just in my basic, in my sweats, looking through the stuff and then I could sort of deliver the lines, but somebody else was doing all the talking and the ceremony. I'd be fine with that. I'd be totally fine with Vinnie. As a comedian, okay, as a professional comedian, the number one, a Syrian comedian in the world. You have the ability to decipher satire joking.

Starting point is 02:53:24 Yeah. Do you think he was actually coming out and saying, this is my third term? Right term. Come on, man. But all of Adam, I think there's a little truth in everything, especially as a comedian, but you, let's just be honest with each other. Do you actually think that Joe Biden right now

Starting point is 02:53:40 is actually making the decisions and tweeting and doing everything that he's doing? Be honest with me. I think he has a team around him that is helping him make the decisions and tweeting and doing everything that he's doing. Be honest with me. I think he has a team around him that is helping him make the decision. Okay, making decisions. Have you ever heard in your life a president say, oh, I can't do this because they told me that I can't speak

Starting point is 02:53:54 or they told me I can't do this show. I'm gonna get in trouble. He'll show me. Rob, can you show? Can you show? I think that Biden is a strong president, do I think he's all there? No, not strong.

Starting point is 02:54:03 Does he make any decisions? No, but when you say, wouldn't you like, of course, I'd like to see that. Could you find that? I'm just telling you, they are, why do you think they're here's the key? It's just what Patrick said earlier. Why do you think they're allowing everybody to attack Biden now when they covered it all up before? Because now they want him to step down. The Democrat system is telling him step down and they can create all this new energy and about who it's going to be that they're telling him to go we're going to find out if he actually is the nominee because then that will be the inaccurate. I mean, I'm not bragging. I'm not bragging.

Starting point is 02:54:31 So I'm going to have dinner with high power people and talk to everybody too. Okay. We have dinner guys like you tell me what I'm saying is this is directly from inside the Trump camp at the highest levels and directly from inside the Democratic Party. So they do not want Biden. They are seriously talking about this. As they should. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:54:48 His approval rating is, I'm not making a prediction. I'm not making a prediction. I'm saying they don't like what's going on. No, what do you do? What he does, Alex. Of course, his approval ratings are in the dog house. He's 80 fucking something years old. Of course they don't want him to run.

Starting point is 02:55:00 Okay, but he's making a decision to run. I mean, he's not making any decisions. Let's be honest. Well, but it shows that a decision to run. I mean, he's not making any decisions. That was a beyond. Well, but it shows that even though he is a vegetable, he wants power, kind of like Yeltsin didn't want to leave. And it's the same thing. There's power struggles and power struggles are dangerous. The difference is Boris Yeltsin was when his like early 60s at that point.

Starting point is 02:55:16 I want to say in Russia and he'd like to know. He should only drink three. Next question. Next question here, Twitter. Why are you not back on Twitter? I saw, you know, obviously Roger Stone's back on Twitter. You got Trump's back on Twitter. You got OJ's on Twitter. You got the Kremlin's on Twitter. You got the leader on the bottom.

Starting point is 02:55:37 You got the Taliban's on Twitter. Why is Elon, I mean, Tate's got back on Twitter. You know, there's not a lot of difference between what you say versus what's obviously. That's a key and I think Tate should be on there so we can defend himself. I mean, everybody, but why are you not on Twitter? Well, it's a digital utility. I'll answer that question, yes. Androchate is charged, which with no evidence, as they've just been seen, of sex-traveling,

Starting point is 02:56:01 raping women with no evidence. Okay, so he deserves me on Twitter. Elon Musk will not let me on there because he says I questioned whether a mass shooting happened or not. Now, I never did the stuff they said. I never sent people people's houses. I never peed on graves.

Starting point is 02:56:15 But they were allowed to say that in court because I was defaulted. They could say whatever they wanted. And you know, great folks love the death and I pray for him seriously. That said, he understands that I was demonized. Let me explain this, this is key. It came out in Congress at US intelligence agencies

Starting point is 02:56:33 were running the censorship, running the surveillance, running the control in the 2016, but they failed. And then in 2020 they were in control of 2022, they were successful. That's in like three day long hearings, all of it. I was picked out as a populist to destroy my movement, but it was bigger than me to be able to shut everybody else down. And so this is not an exaggeration. I get Google alerts and I don't even follow them anymore because

Starting point is 02:56:55 it's too much. There were some days in the last five years where it would say 10,000 Google alerts, okay. And 10% would be this woman, the name Alex shows this big BBC lady, she's a popular girl. She has like a baby or something. Some days I go, okay, a third of that's her, they got it from all of me. But I'm talking, most days it'd be a thousand hits, okay? Because they put one AP article out,

Starting point is 02:57:17 it'd be put in every newspaper around the country. So some days it'd be 20, 30,000. So there was thousands of TV programs. They would put a report out, and it would be be 20, 30,000. So there was thousands of TV programs. They would put a report out, and it would be on ABC, NBC, CBS, all of the local stations. I would routinely turn on the local spectrum channel to see the weather, and routinely it was me being attacked

Starting point is 02:57:36 on the local time-warner owned, you know, 24 hour cable in Austin, run by time-warner. It's like, local seeing it. That was not about me. That was about speeches bad. Here's this's like, it's like, local scene in it. That was not about me. That was about speech is bad. Here's this horrible person, this horrible things to, you know, mass shooting dead kids, just dead kids, dead kids, mass shooting dead kids, take your guns, take your speech, take this guy's a monster because I was the archetype of what they

Starting point is 02:57:57 want to destroy. Elon is playing 3D chess. He really is. Trump isn't. Trump's a great guy, but Elon's smarter. And when it really comes with full spec for stuff, Elon knows they charged up this giant battery of hundreds of thousands of syndicated articles. Because you know, one gets that a thousand times or more. I mean, we're talking thousands of original articles, thousands of original shows. I mean, I've been on PBS that I know of like 50 times. I mean, just program, program, program, just you know, but let me just everything just every channel PMP are every day To charge me up as the Antichrist and to put all this energy into how I'm the worst person in the world What's demonizing the people an independent media so they can then use me later and go look Alex Jones likes RFK Oh look Alex Jones says Peter Hottes is bad to always say like, oh, he doesn't like Biden.

Starting point is 02:58:45 So the devil doesn't like Biden. He must be good. It wasn't about me. It was about making me this image that they stole my identity to own a control. So Elon knows I'm this charged up bomb with this big hand grenade. So he can free the captives. He already took haphazard advertising. He's barely hanging on.

Starting point is 02:59:00 They're coming in with the ESG. He said last night, he may not win this. If he brings me on they can go look He brought Satan on so you can free everybody but me the Taliban everybody else. That's fine I kind of and I understand it and I'm not I'm being honest here now that I'm more sophisticated I understand that you know, it's like Joe Rogan loves me We hang out all this stuff and he's like yeah, no I can do all this stuff and expose the new world order and win

Starting point is 02:59:25 and still get criticized and hang on. I have you come say it, then it's destructive. So I understand Robert F. Kennedy, same thing, you know, and so I understand it, it's great. Robert F. Kennedy is Alex Jones now. Joe Rogan is Alex Jones now. That was always my goal. They're not me, they now see the same perspective,

Starting point is 02:59:42 they're now questioning, they now are curious, they now are studying, they're gonna find the same thing I found in more and so Fine Robert of Kennedy Jr. Well, come on Joe Rogan fine all that so we go get dinner That's what I care about hang out. This is great comedy club. He's my friend. That's what matters I'm 25 years and so that's what this is all about is winning and defeating these people so I'm owning that I am the black sheep and that the real devil says,

Starting point is 03:00:07 the real devil says I'm the devil. What's that tell you? I'm just a regular guy that loves freedom that discovered all this stuff growing up around it and I care. And so that's it. And so it's a great question. Why am I on Twitter?

Starting point is 03:00:16 There's your answer and thanks the time. Nobody ever shuts up for me. You gotta come on my show, I'm gonna shut up for you. Promise you're gonna come on. Now you're telling me. Let me tell you, you know, I think, I think you need to be on there, especially the way Elon's got it.

Starting point is 03:00:32 I think, I don't know why he has, and I don't even know if he's been asked the question, why has, has, any of that? Oh, he came up and said, I deserve to be murdered. Who said that? Elon Musk said, I should be murdered for what I did. Oh, about Sandy Hook. Yeah, he said, he said, he said, you know, what Alex Jones did attacking those people with their children, that is the worst thing on earth, not being Taliban, not sex-traving,

Starting point is 03:00:54 and that's all fine. Seriously, he said, Alex Jones is the worst. I will never say to him, it would be, as Christ said, he should have a stone tied around his neck and thrown in the ocean. He said those words. Elon Musk. He tweeted those words. Elon Musk. He tweeted on it. He tweeted it.

Starting point is 03:01:07 He tweeted it. Let me look at that. Go up there. Yeah, my firstborn child, that in my arms, I felt this last heartbeat. I have no mercy for anyone who would use the death of children for gain politics or fame. Interesting.

Starting point is 03:01:18 But then he went on to say, quote Jesus, it'd be better for Alex shows, you know, but that was before he bought Twitter. No, that's right when he got it. Here, here, go back up. He said, there's another tweet where he says, he quoted Christ, he said, we better for him to have a Milestone, he deserves to have a Milestone tie around tonight.

Starting point is 03:01:38 Wow. Well, you have high praise for Elon. You just said that he's a way smarter than Trump. That's right. What he did to him. He's like, you're right. He's Satan. I won't bring him back.

Starting point is 03:01:50 I'll bring everybody. He just played their game. That's 3D chess. I love it. I couldn't. I thank you, Elon. Beautiful job. Who do you pit put in the class of people that are fighting for freedom, whether you say

Starting point is 03:02:03 Tucker, whether you say Elon, whether you say Elon, whether you say these names, who would you put in that category? Who else would you put in that category? I mean, we got Rogan, we got Elon, we got who else would you put in that category? Well, I got mad at Joe Rogan five years ago, six years ago, because I've known Joe since,

Starting point is 03:02:19 for 25 years, I mean, before he was doing fair factor, right, right, when he started UFC, he'd done news radio radio and we've party. I mean, we have, we've, like you've seen the movie, hang over. Yeah. We've actually done that. Like, you know, I don't, it's like the most interesting man in the world. I don't often do drugs, but when I do it, it's much easier.

Starting point is 03:02:43 Literally. So me and Joe have, we have done some stuff. And so I love Joe. And I always knew there was something about him. People like, why don't you love that Joe Rogan? He's a smart. I told people 20 years ago, I said, that guy is super smart. Cause he, let me tell you that guy, he sits there and plays dumb and does all that stuff. It's all calculated. And he's a good guy. He knows all this stuff. We talk every day. I mean, you know, they get mad at him about that. We text constantly, you know, every day. And we send people articles and stuff.

Starting point is 03:03:10 And he just, and that's why I got mad at him. When he was kind of going to liberals about six years ago and kind of playing games, they were kind of recruiting him. And I was just like, Joe, knock it off. Stop, you know about all this. And then he got more hardcore again. And he went the right direction. And then they

Starting point is 03:03:25 did the lockdowns and he said screw these people it's all true and going after them. And now they've got Alex Jones that's more controlled and more controlling himself, not control by them. They got Alex Jones 2.0. You got Tucker Carl so they messed with him, Alex Jones 2.0, Joe Rogan Alex Jones 2.0, I can just, I don't want to victory. I mean, I'm actually proud of the fact that I've been instrumental in waking up Joe Rogan. You know, he listened to my show a lot, twenty-something years ago. He called in on my show on 9-11 and said, it's irresponsible, Alex, you're saying the US government

Starting point is 03:03:53 will do building stuff. I saw them blowing up. I saw the news say we're going to blow up building seven. It was on the news that day. But back then, stuff wasn't archived. So it wasn't until four years later, all the news put their archives online when storage got better. And you can pull up Building Seven,

Starting point is 03:04:07 we were gonna blow up Building Seven and we watch it come down. It's on the CBS news, ABC news, CNN. We're gonna pull it. That's what Larry Silverstein said. I like some. Later on PBS, he said he blew it up. So Joe used to call me up and go,

Starting point is 03:04:18 hey man, I mean, he knew I meant what I was saying, but he just wouldn't believe how bad it was. And then about, I'd say about 18 years ago, he was really awake sort of studying it. And then he just couldn't, he didn't wanna believe it anymore and then he kinda got out of it about 10 years ago. He kinda did some shows,

Starting point is 03:04:35 the bunking conspiracies TV show. Now that kinda turned into the dark side for a while. And then I started getting his face about it, calling him up and stuff and saying, hey man, you're not stupid, you know, I told him, I said, I'm really, I know he's a great guy. I said, you're a punk.

Starting point is 03:04:50 You guys look like a punk. And I said, if you keep doing it, I'm going to go on air and start attacking your ass. And then we kind of went back and forth and stuff. It's not like crazy. And I went too far enough, apologize to you, but I mean, now I'm just so proud of him. I like, let me read you one quote from Rogan.

Starting point is 03:05:02 I mean, there's tons out there, but to kind of sing your praise here. He said, this is, he's actually speaking with Lex Friedman. He goes, people think he's hilarious. You know, it's fucked up. What happened? What's Andy hook and all that? But here's the deal with Alex Shones.

Starting point is 03:05:14 He's right more often than he's wrong. And he basically gave you praise that like, you know, people here, let me, let me, let me kind of give you another thing. You ever hear what Dave should tell a set about when people call people crazy? He was sitting there with the screen actors guild guy, the one guy, and he goes,

Starting point is 03:05:31 he's talking about when Martin Lawrence was going crazy and blustery and all that. The term crazy, it's, here's the thing when you call somebody crazy, it's dismissive, right? You're basically, oh, it's crazy, dismiss it, right? And it's basically, oh, I don't understand that guy, it's just crazy. You should've not been a debater, it's crazy. Just miss it, right? And it's basically saying, oh, I don't understand that guy. It's just crazy. You sure I'm not going to debate you.

Starting point is 03:05:46 You're totally dead. It's a dismissive thing. The thing is that these people are not crazy are actually very strong. So when you hear Rogan defend you, even though that you've made some wrong decisions, you've actually owned up to your wrong decisions. When you hear people say, oh, he's just fricking crazy.

Starting point is 03:06:00 You're not crazy. You have strong opinions. And you believe what you say. So when you hear Rogan defend you, when you hear people call not crazy, you have strong opinions, and you believe what you say. So, when you hear Rogan defend you, when you hear people call you crazy, how do you process all that? Are you crazy? No, I'm not crazy, and I'm listening to your great question,

Starting point is 03:06:16 and I could go 10 hours, my ride has an event they've got to get to, they're trying to make me leave, so let's just wrap up in five minutes, but I want to come back anytime, and I want to invite you guys to fly to Austin and do a show with me, and you can host out of there. We got a bunch of studios,

Starting point is 03:06:29 we can take my logos off everything, we can put yours up. This facility's awesome, I love. Broadcasting from a vault. Look, I am crazy. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, sir. No, but I mean everybody's crazy. Yeah. And anybody that tells you they're not crazy, it's even crazier. And so, this is a crazy life on a weird planet

Starting point is 03:06:49 with all this fantastic stuff. We're trying to figure it all out. And I kind of got crazy when I discovered all this stuff where I got to where I thought everything was a conspiracy. And it's not. A lot of times it's just an aptitude or it's weirdness. But the globalists are trying to get control of ESG and the computers and AI, because they do want to control it. And so, and they globalists are trying to get control of the ESGs and the computers and AI

Starting point is 03:07:05 because they do want to control it. And so, and they've got the most control of anybody. And I think the people should start having control about the choices we make and what we do. And that's why by-coding what you guys do and support the show, because it was popular the day you launched it. And I watched a lot, but I mean, the last few years and now you can see what's up and blows up. It was like boom, boom, now it's like exponential. So it grows from here to here, the first couple of years and it goes like this, then it goes 500 feet in the air. And you're now in that, you know, now you can see that trajectory. And I'm not kissing your ass, you can see it.

Starting point is 03:07:31 It's exploding. It's a good show. It deserves it. And it's one of the best podcasts out there. And so I mean, people need to support what you're doing. They need to support free speech. They need to know that it takes courage to have Alex shones on and a lot of whims don't do it.

Starting point is 03:07:44 And so we're all big boys and girls we're supposed to actually hear what somebody says Yep, I mean they should interview you know people like Charlie Manson. There's been you agree with Charlie Manson I'm not Charlie Manson my point is we need to really hear what somebody has to say and the worst part about being Deplatform that's gonna have my hardcore great audience This is every day at n4s.com and On some radio stations around the country and other says the people can find it there. But the biggest thing is they can then

Starting point is 03:08:07 misrepresent, including deep facts. I've had a bunch of deep facts done on me. I'll tell you this Tucker Carlson story real quick. I've had deep facts done on me and the guys, it's on on, look up Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson deep fact and play it. And I just talked to him that day, so I get another call in the CPA meeting.

Starting point is 03:08:23 And, well, I'll tell you the story in a second. And I just talked to him that day so I get another call in the CPA meeting and Well, but I'll tell that story a second the point is is that is that You don't get to respond on Facebook Twitter Instagram CNN, you know the old days you get attacked New York Times They call you no, there's no it's all one way So you're reading the New York Times saying he's a white supremacist and I mean I'm not I don't want to get into talk about my family All this kind of stuff, but we're the opposite of that, okay? And it's it's very the white supremacist made a big deal about it like I'm married a lady Whose mother's Jewish which takes the mixer Jewish? I got three your kids that see themselves as Americans and they're like

Starting point is 03:08:58 Are we Jewish are we Christian? I guess we're Christian and we like you know that's breaking news right there But the point is the white supremacist, well, I've said this many times, are literally talking about how they want to kill my family all the time. So I get to be called a white supremacist in the New York Times for no evidence. And then meanwhile, you know, my kids, I guess, technically, you know, can commit a crown run to Israel,

Starting point is 03:09:16 the point is, the point is, the point is, whatever, the point is, is I'm not ashamed of that. But at the same time, I talked about on the years ago and made all the Nazis come after me, I'm like, wow, this is what it's like to like associate it with the Jews. People really wanna kill you. This is actually, this sucks.

Starting point is 03:09:30 This is wrong. So, but then the media calls you white supremacy. It's just like, I'm a white supremacist and I'm at the white supremacist. Go look at white supremacist websites. I mean, they hate me more than almost anybody because I won't make it all about, you know, hating Jews or any other rib-ball day.

Starting point is 03:09:44 I wanna get everybody for freedom and win.. So I'm sitting there about a month ago or five, six weeks ago in a CPA meeting at like five o'clock. I just actually talked to Tucker that day. And all of a sudden, he's just been fired, you know, a few weeks before. And all of a sudden, hey, it's Tucker. Can you talk? By the way, they spoofed his number. And the guy went online and bragged about all this. So, so, so he's, the numbers, Tucker Carlson's numbers. So you had to get that number. This is it.

Starting point is 03:10:14 I mean, oh, this is fit. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't know this is it. I'm not a play-doh on the show. Go ahead. One of the most bizarre things that ever happened to me in my life happened yesterday afternoon at about 5.45 I'm sitting in an accounting me. You're explaining it.

Starting point is 03:10:30 I'm going to get the guy you hit pause in an office. Go to Twitter. They Type in Alex Tucker Carlson. What's it called? It says Twitter? It's called what's it? What's it called? They do that. It's a deep fake fake Tucker Carlson Alex Jones deep fake So so the point is it's Tucker Carlson's voice and they have his number so it shows up and he goes, are you all right? And I said yeah, he goes well, I want to you know Do all these sexual things to you And I know okay, this is not Tucker. This is AI and then the guy goes you have to play this Can you find it or no, please it was over the news a type it into Google type in

Starting point is 03:11:07 Alex Jones Tucker Carlson deep fake or prank caller AI deep fakes Tucker Carlson Now there is there is seedling y'all who knows So then I called Tucker and he goes yeah man, there's a lot more stuff than that going on This is horrible and then they discovered who he was before he came up. Did you played on that tweet? Did you played on that video or no? Or you didn't play? No, that's the video. The guy that did it. Talk about me. Okay, got it. But it came out later and then it was another burger because he said, oh, I got this long conversation. I think Jones out. No, I go, this isn't Tucker. This is an AI like 20 like 10 seconds in and then he hangs up. So something they, but the point was it's like, Tucker, when I want to do this to you, I want to do that to you. Maybe it was a 40 second. By the way, this is how conspiracy, it's like, Tucker, when I wanna do this to you, I wanna do that to you now.

Starting point is 03:11:45 Maybe it was a 40 second. By the way, this is how conspiracy is like, there was a rumor out there. I know you're not. Don't come at me. They're like, oh, Alex Jones, he's gay, right? I'm like, what are you talking about? Why would you, like,

Starting point is 03:11:54 what? Yeah, I heard about him at the Bohemian thing. And then the talk, I'm like, he's married with kids. Yeah, no, it's all. And he's like, no, I heard he was getting, it's like this. By the way, just so you know,

Starting point is 03:12:03 just so you know, the President of Microsoft, we gotta wrap up the podcast for 20 minutes over, the President of Microsoft, the President of Google, every one of them, they said the biggest threat they're concerned about, moving forward is gonna be AI and deep fakes. Deep fakes to be specific, okay? Deep fakes to be specific.

Starting point is 03:12:19 Let's just point, somebody calls your mother up, and it's your voice, and says, hey, mom, I really need a thousand dollars for you, please give me the credit card. Yep, and mom gives it to you From your number they've already had people to hit nap a girl or or say they have her voice Call but say I'm kidnap mommy. Give me money. Yeah, sorry. I didn't rub you If you can find that let's play it if not we got to finish the podcast I said he pulled it from online after you received friends from Legal Action from Tucker and you're saying nobody else I can't find

Starting point is 03:12:47 the only thing I can find is the clip of Alex talking about. Okay, well then it's all good. I'm glad we got you. I'm glad we got you a simple whiskey before you guys. This Alex this was a as usual very very entertaining. Different than part one part one was a different perspective. This one is we covered a bunch of different stores. We're gonna put the link to your book below The great reset please put it in four words.com. We'll do that as well. Rob if you can put that below for people to be able to find it I would say go follow Alex on Twitter, but unfortunately Elon's not gonna happen right now. So go to info wars.com to follow Alex's content impressive. Please have me back I look forward to it. I look forward for thank you so much i think you're

Starting point is 03:13:27 everybody have a weekend bye bye bye

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