PBD Podcast - “I Lost $100 Million Partying” - Scott Storch TELLS ALL: Diddy, Suge Knight, Dre, Kanye & Kim K | PBD Podcast | Ep. 605

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

Legendary producer Scott Storch joins Patrick Bet-David to open up about his wild ride through fame, fortune, and rock bottom. He breaks down how he made, and lost, $100 million, what really happened partying with Diddy, why things fell apart with Dr. Dre, and his encounters with Kim Kardashian and Kanye West.-------Ⓜ️ CONNECT WITH SCOTT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4jZzz9O🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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The world's never heard these stories. I'm just letting it rip today. F*** it. Did you ever do anything with Kanye? Man, he used to be one of my musical heroes. Used to be. Turned out to be a piece of shit. Lose it if I see this guy in public, man.

What was your relationship with Diddy? You get invited into the house. Not many people get into the house. Nobody was taking advantage of me, but Bieber knew what the fuck he was doing. He was trying to hang out. I'm cool with everybody, man. Like, I don't know. Maybe not after this interview.

I had the first Bugatti. That's Kim K? Yep. She made a song, by the way, called F*** You, Scott Storch. I can tell you that's a funny f***ing story. Did you and DMX do anything or no? And he's smoking crack while they're handcuffing him,

like, with the handcuffs on, getting his last hit. And it was like the blind leading the blind. Can you imagine, like, man, you really need to get your shit together. I'm laying some secrets out for y'all today bro. This is all real talk. What do you think about music these days? This shit is wack.

This shit is horrible right now. Honestly, like good music has no expiration date. I made it stutter and go I guess he was back. Skat thoughts! 30 seconds. Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so pleased that you taste sweet victory. You know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright.

My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a 101 for Sunday, right there. The future looks bright Scott's torch in the house. How you doing? I'm chilling. Yeah, it's crazy. We were having dinner at shout out to Mar Mar-a-rano. Oh yeah, Stevie. Right? Stevie. And we're over there, and I'm with some friends. You're with some friends. And I'm like, babe, is that, yeah, what, how you doing? And we're talking outside, and then a few months later, Adam, you guys are talking. How'd you guys get linked up all of a sudden? We have a couple mutual friends, MJ, Buddha, a couple guys.

And then the night we were talking, I was telling him what I do, and Scott sometimes will play it cool, and at the end of the night he goes, is this your guy right here? Shows a picture of you, and I'm like, yeah, he goes, oh, this guy we had, like, and then it's been off to the races ever since.

Yeah, I remember this, but you know, so I know you as producer what you've done, but then Adam's like, do you really know? I'm like, I think I know. Pat, let me tell you what this guy's done. I'm like, what has he done? Then he keeps playing. Hits after, I'm like, there's no way he did this. And he did this.

And he did that. And he did this. And I pulled it on him. I'm like, okay, so here's volume of number one hits. You did Beyonce baby boy Fadjos lean back 50 cent candy shop. I mean candy shop right Mario. Let me love you Chris Brown run it and you've worked pretty much with everybody and anybody

You didn't even scratch the surface of some of my biggest records time you're a river I mean, there's so many crime you river Justin Timberlake. Yeah, I mean, I've there's so many still doc still Dre I Mean countless honestly, I've done more music. I think that any producer period Oh what about the fat Joe say fat Joe say Spotify has fit you all your songs 53 billion streams is what he said. Yeah, it's more than that now and it's the top like 1% Like it's like there's only a few people up that high in terms of streams and Drake is one of them I'm one of them and you know, it's it's an honor man, you know, I'm passionate about what I do

I didn't do it for the money I did it for the love and the passion and then you know, if you have passion for something you're gonna You know excel at it, but the stories man I mean the stories goes with the the parties the ladies the names You know the best of the best at the peak it goes on and on and on so a lot of that stuff was post-work You know what I mean? Like I was work work work work work work work work work work and then all of a sudden But we'll get that out later. How to get started for you? How to get, like at the beginning, did you,

since you were a kid, like you know, an artist comes in here, say you're an architect, you're like, I don't know if I would've cut the doors this way and I would've cut it this way. Do you go to a place and if somebody goes, and you're like, dun, dun, dun, dun, do you automatically link every sound to creating a beat? Is that how your brain is wired?

No, I'm receiving satellite. I swear to God. You ever drive somewhere and you black out and you're like, how did I get here? That's how it happens for me. I was just, it's like, oh shit, that's it. Throwing shit against the wall. Would you mind if we just start off with you doing a couple of the beats for the audience to know?

If you want to invite in, I want the audience to kind of hear. My friend Jalen is here. Yeah, if we can get Jalen, our handsome son, Jalen, the guy could be a model, good looking boy. Is he here with us? You know what? I can say something about all my children. Sperm one.

I really did. Alright, Jalen, so if you can help set them up. One by one by one. I want to see. By the way, when you're listening to this folks, the moment he does it, you're going to be like, no flipping way. We can start with... You want to help him put that mic in front of him, Rob, so we can catch him there as well? Whatever you want to start off with.

What the hell is that? The polarity is wrong on this. Turn my headphones up. Turn my headphones up. Keyboard. Lower octave. All right. So, should I just get right into it get right into it

the audience gonna get it especially if they're our age they're gonna sit there and say oh shit I'm gonna like preface this with a few things first of all music today is made with computers. And just like, you know, like even like movies back in the day were made with the story, the, you know, the acting, everything had to be like intense because there was no CGI, there was no this and that. And like people like the Beatles or whoever would sit down

with no electricity, a pad and a pen and a guy on a piano and a melody was written. And that's where the substance comes from. And that's why, not to toot my own horn, but my records are timeless. Like good music has no expiration date. You could put it on now or then and the shit is forever. Like my catalog just keeps going.

Whereas most records now, people like them, but it's like fast foods, that's it, and it tanks. So with that being said, like I have a couple of the records that I've done. They are like considered to be of the records that I've done, they are like considered to be some of the most iconic, I guess, piano riffs or whatever in the history of music. One of them is, you know, my buddy Dr. Dre and I, we made the Chronic 2000 album together

and this was one of the pieces I came up with in the... That's something like that. Now let me ask you this, Scott. The first time you presented this, was it freestyle or you did it privately yourself? Freestyle. So the first time you showed him this, what was his reaction? I mean, I've told this story before, like we were working in the studio and it was like towards the end of the making of the album. And he programmed the drum pattern and just left it playing and went

into the kitchen, which is an earshot, to make a sandwich or something. And I just was throwing shit against the wall. I started playing that. And I was thinking to myself, why not play something really sloppy instead of going. ["The Right Way"] I made it stutter and go.

["The Right Way"] I make it, the wrong is the right. ["The Right Way"] Sometimes our imperfections is a perfection. So I did that and like all of a sudden Dre opens the door, he's like, that's it That's my fucking single. It was like that and by the end of the day He sent it off to Jay Z to write it and it came back

And it was fire Fucking fire Trust me. I know cuz we played it everybody played it fire. Oh, trust me. I know cuz we played it. Everybody played it. We have roads and Scott, who were you at that point? What? Cuz Dre was already Dre but you weren't known at that point. I know you're with the Roots but at this point, Dre was here. Where were you? It's it's um you should have your headphones on, man. Um I was um the producer's producer.

No, I mean, like honestly, I started in The Roots and did a lot of stuff for them. Very underappreciated, and I was the guy who like, again, came up with a lot of the nucleus of what that shit was, and I left the group and was told that I was like the Pete Best of The Roots. You know, Pete Best is the guy that quit the Beatles. Yeah.

And like, I mean, even my girlfriend like broke up with me because of that and said, oh, you fucked up and this and that. I was like, no, I didn't. Like, I see bigger. I'm not gonna go on the road with a bunch of guys that don't appreciate me and be like, that's the white guy who plays keys in the Roots.

So no, I'm the fucking guy coming up with all the shit. They didn't appreciate you. Not at all. It was a fallen out. As a matter of fact, they called me the white devil. And I'm like the most harmonious, loving, non-racist person ever. And like it just hurt me. How'd you meet them?

How'd you link up with them? Because I worked out to one of the songs from Roots. The one that you did. Yeah. Well, that wasn't made for the roots. That song, after I left the Roots, they realized I guess that they needed me still. And I was, you know, I got my own little studio

in this place called Sigma Sound where all the like disco stuff was recorded. This is where, what city? In Philly. Okay. And they record there downstairs. So of course they come upstairs and they're like, you got anything?

And they saw I was working with this girl. I'm working with a girl who at the time worked at Urban Outfitters. And now she's one of the most legendary Neo-Soul legends, Jill Scott. Of course. So Jill Scott was not an artist. I was like, yo, you should be an artist, You're awesome. She was like, working at Urban Outfitters and doing an off-Broadway rendition of Rent.

And Questlove came in and heard what we were making. And he said, I gotta have this. And that was You Got Me, the song you like to work out. And they love that they told me like when I gave it to them I was like make sure Jill stays on it at the last minute. They switched it to Erica Badu Huh, but Jill wrote it Erica Badu and a lot of the people that I brought in the studio like that that I believed in that were the writers they became stars like Neo Before he was an artist was the guy that did let me love you with me was my boy cam, but um So, uh, what was I gonna play?

There we go, so this is a little something I remember sitting in westlake studios Just again This is a little something I remember sitting in Westlake Studios, just again, trying to receive satellite and just like all of a sudden shit spontaneously happens. Me and Justin Timberlake were sitting, just the two of us in this like tiny little, and there's a big live room and then there's a small one and I had the fender road set up and. And.

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providers owned and operated by affiliates of Service Corporation International. ["Dignity Memorial"] You get the idea. You already know, I found out from. And is it typically like right off the bat? Because when you hear that song, that song, it stays. The simplest shit is the most infectious shit sometimes.

The simplest shit, wow. Like, less is more. Okay, listen to that over repeat. I probably listened to that song 500 times. This passion in that, I didn't learn how to play. I didn't get taught. I just, I had a cassette recorder. I would put it on this broken shitty upright piano that my parents had when I was a little kid. I just...

Boom. Oh yeah, I just put it like... What was the inspiration to like, who did you look up to when you were coming up? You know, when I was that age, I was like 10 years old. I was listening to a combination of people like Ozzy Osbourne and Iron Maiden and Motown and Earth, Wind and Fire.

I got this cassette called The 25th Anniversary of Motown. They even did a live show, legendary, that's where Michael Jackson kind of unveiled the moonwalk and all that very gordy thing. So yeah, I just taught myself how to play and I've always just was winging it. And I moved to Philly. I grew up in Florida, moved to Philly at 15.

And like, I was like, just going into ninth grade. And I would just, we were in the suburbs of Philly, and I would skip school and go into the city and try and find musicians. And I met these guys, Questlove and all these guys, and we would set up on the street and borrow power from a store and we would just jam

and we ended up getting Wendy Goldstein's ear, who was at Geffen, she's now the head of Republic. She was a Geffen? She was at Geffen. She was at Geffen. She was an A&R. Yeah, and we got a great deal. None of us made any money or anything like that

from the earlier stuff. But yeah. How did you get linked up with Dre? With Dre. I went to LA for the first time and there was a girl from Philly randomly out there who had like ran up to me, she's like Scott, and like I put her on, you got me as well.

She was one of my friends. And I don't know if you know who that I'm talking about, but it's Eve. The rapper Eve. Yeah, of course. She had a real cool tattoo. Mrs. Gumball. So Eve, she's like, yo, you always were cool to me

and her brother, E-Rex, and they were like, yo, we're gonna get you in with Dr. Dre. I'm like, Dr. Dre, are you serious? As the first time, I'm like broke as shit and three months behind in Philly on rent and I go in to see Dre, and she kept her word, and I went in, I waited in the lobby for like four hours,

and then they said, Dre's waiting for you in the live room. I had no music to play for him, and I go in, and he's like, he said you good on them keys, man. And I was like, all right, and I just thought to myself, I'm not gonna play anything I ever keys man. And I was like, all right. And I just thought to myself, I'm not gonna play anything I ever played before. I'm gonna do the most ominous gangster type shit that I can think of. Not like the P-Funk shit that the West Coast

was doing at that time. I was wanting to do something because I know Dre's into that type of stuff and I just do something. And I played for a couple minutes and within an hour I had a hotel key I just do some and I played for a couple minutes and like Within an hour I had like a hotel key for a nice boutique hotel Ten G's all my problems were solved and I remember I went back

And I got my stuff and I started a new life at that point and I had to have like all my shit sent from Philly And it's LA like Dre and I just were like, the next day I went in to meet him in the studio and he's like, I got this like white rapper kid, he's really dope, his name's Marshall. And like we made just the two of us that day, which is like his first release on Aftermath. No, I'm serious. Marshall matters, you're talking about. No, we're watching 8 Mile an hour with the boys.

Yeah, and then the next day next day, I struck gold again. We're not on every day. Even Dre, this was Dre's expression, he said you don't have to be on every day, just most days. You know what I mean? Which means you're a success rate. We're human, but if you're really the shit, you're usually gonna come with that fire.

And when you first met Marshall, when you first met him. when you first time at him He had black hair. He was chubby and we didn't look like nothing like did you did you feel there was something special? Oh, he's right off the back a beast but right off the bat. He felt it. Huh? Well, you said this guy's different Yeah immediately and I knew obviously Dre has his ears are priceless So, you know his ears are priceless so So, you know, his ears are priceless So he can yeah when I went to tell like the people in the roots that like I was still like Talking to sort of that. I was going to work with Dre. They were like you working with Dre ten years too late, bro Good luck. Oh, yeah, and we went on the run of runs. Did they really lit up? Yeah

They're just all haters. What happened to those guys who would mean they're on the Jimmy Fallon or the Halls Band. Yeah, I'm not trying to just dog them out like whatever. That was a part of my journey. Same group, yeah, can you pull them up Rob? They're on Jimmy Fallon every single night. Yeah. But do they make new stuff or it's just they're playing whatever that they're playing. I don't know, you wouldn't know that one. I don't know like I mean They play a lot of like, cool music. What year were, baby, you got me?

97. Okay, so, and then I want to say chronologically, if we go in order, Marshall Mathers, his first album, that came out in 98. That was before the chronic 2000, right? No, it was 99. 99, okay. Yeah, the end of 99, believe it or not.

Hi, my name is, huh, my name is. So that was before you did Still Dre. Well, yeah, Dre released him, I think, if I remember correctly first. Our chronic album, Dre's album, came out in 2001. We started in 99. Yeah. And when it comes out to him, okay, Yeah, and and and when it comes out to him, okay first impression walks into the room Your feel your vibe when you meet him. What's he like forget about one, you know, so funny dude. He is a funny Yeah, yeah, he got a lot more serious over the years, but like yeah, he's just funny to you like super cool He's Taco Bell every day literally every day

Yeah, he's cool guy he used to come to the house and make beats with me He's such a like, you know, like the things that make me laugh that stand out with Eminem. I remember Dre walking in the studio and I just happened to be in the room with em and was adding the album was done and He was adding sound effects like actual sounds like like things that related to his lyric like if it's a gunshot or a You know something drop whatever it is. He was like, you know a glass cracking whatever it is Like he was just doing and I remember Draper like yo enough of the motherfucking sound effects man. It's done But he's like a mad scientist. He's like really Involved he's not just the rapper. He's like producing the album

Bringing the magic out of it, the sauce. What was the schedule like? Like you guys are coming in late, you're going until six o'clock in the morning, what was it like when you were working with Dre? Not Dre's crew, it was organized. It was three o'clock to like two or three. Three o'clock in the afternoon to two or three?

Yeah, every time. And he was super, so what do you guys do when you guys are in there together? What does it look like? I mean it some it's different different days Dre has like specific like Casts that are on like certain days like sometimes it was more intimate was he and I and maybe one other guy and engineer And then it was like sometimes a lot of people like you know sometimes you bring in percussionist So that you know the characters change in it, but you know the nucleus of a lot of people like, you know, sometimes you bring in percussionists and so that, you know, the characters change in it. But, you know, the nucleus of a lot of the things.

This is you guys here? Yeah. I was a nerd. How old were you in that picture, Scott? Well, if I'm 51 now, that was in 99. 36 years ago. 99 is 36 years ago. Remember I dropped out of school. 26 years ago 99 is 36 years ago. Remember I dropped out of school 26 years ago 99 26 years ago. So 51 you're 25 years old 25 So are you at this point have you already started playing experiencing Hollywood ladies partying or no yet? No

No, it was great super discipline. Yeah. Yeah and And like, you know, there were some fun moments in there. There was like a skit on the album where he wanted like the sound of like sex stuff going on, and like all these porn stars were brought in, and like, it was, that was a fun session. Wait, the porn stars came in for the sound? Yeah, they got on microphones and just like made sex sounds and shit like that, yeah.

That's it, they came in just for the sounds. Dude, Dre is so cool. I've seen Dre have stone and a shovel to catch a, like all kinds of, it's all set up in the live room with mics on it and shit. Like insane, he goes to different levels than most people. But look, I worked with Dre. It was a great period of my life.

But it was some point that I realized That Dre has his empire. It's now time to build mine you know, I mean and That moment happened at the at the Grammys in 2005 2005 I went there and a lot of the music obviously, you know The one award that a producer can get is the producer of the year Mm-hmm, and I watched Dre received the producer of the year I was jealous I think because I was involved in some of the music that year and I was like, you know what I want

I want that for myself. So I told Dre I love you That's the friends. I'm gonna move back to Florida. I'm not gonna make gangster music. I'm gonna move back to Florida. I'm not gonna make gangsta music. I'm gonna just go a different direction and just try and build my shit. And then that came to 2006. I had almost like 32 weeks at number one, something crazy, of all the records that I did from Let Me Love You, Baby Boy, Naughty Girl, Me, Myself, and I,

Candy Shop, these were all like this, all these hits I made that year. And I was like, I'm gonna be the producer of the year. I broke every record there is as a producer to break. And I remember I was sitting with Marilyn Manson and my girlfriend at the time was Paris Hilton. Yeah, and we went there, I left in disgust because I was one of the nominees,

but I wasn't nominated and I couldn't understand it. And I realized, it ended up being this guy who produced like two songs for the gorillas. But there's a thing called the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, NARRAS. They're the two decides who gets the Grammys. It's like a panel of, you gotta be their poster child and suck their dick all fucking year long.

I was busy making music. I was in the fucking trenches, like, getting it in and like going beyond the abilities of any human being. And they, you know, because they're like, oh, how did you touch the culture? like going beyond the abilities of any human being. And they, you know, because they're like, oh, how did you touch the culture? And it's not, I killed it. I was all culture. But it's like, they get to do what they wanna do.

And yeah, fuck the Grammys. How you feel about that today? There's nothing with stats in that. Like, there's no, you know, it's not like billboard awards or something. So I will, yeah. Let me ask you what the Grammys just just out of curiosity I mean, it's got nothing to do with this. I want to come back to Paris and I want to hear candy

Shut up. I want to hear all that stuff, but with Grammys. Why is it everybody thinks Beyonce? How much power does Beyonce have I don't know I I can I can turn that story around When we did that dangerously in love in Love album, one of the biggest honors of my career, there's a video clip you could find online where she's accepting her award for like best album or whatever, I forget what the category was, she thanked Jesus, she thanked me, and then she thanked Jay-Z.

I was like, yo! I beat Jay-Z! Boom, boom, boom! No, it was a vital part of the album. Like, we sat in a studio for almost a month and just thugged it out and I brought in somebody from Philly who was an old school rapper that I just knew would add some street to it

with her perfect prettiness of a lot of stuff she writes. It was a gutter. We made some amazing shit. Who was in the studio with you and Beyonce at that time This writer named est from three times dope Which is like an old-school rap group and I convinced Beyonce like you know this guy's gonna add something to she's like I trust you whatever and That was it I produced all at that time like everything by myself

I didn't have any like like now you'll see 20 names on a fucking song and What was your experience working with Beyonce? Was she a diva? Was she sweet? No She was an absolute dream to work with so like talented. I mean I would say like Some one of the best singers in a female like soul singers ever to live, from Aretha Franklin, Patti LaBelle, Beyonce, there's range, power in that voice and she has a distinct idea of what she wants. She's an integral part of the writing and one of the most talented people I've ever

worked with. Really? I mean, we made one of the songs that I love. I mean, everybody knows the. ["The Naughty Girl"] But she was like emoting. You did that song? Yeah, yeah, it's the Naughty Girl. And we did the. ["The Naughty Girl"]

Baby Boy, no, go back to that one. But we made the one that I love the most, which is me, myself and I, because it was like very like heartfelt. And I added a nice surprise chord. I can't believe. It's like Rod Temperton singing like Michael Jackson songs So while you were while you were there with Beyonce, where was Jay-Z at this point were they married not together? Yeah. Yeah But like yeah, they were I mean he wasn't around but you she was in there focusing on her album. But did you work with Jay-Z at all?

I've worked with him, yeah. I worked with him. I had a bunch of shit I did with him in Timberland. The ol' la, vo' be to, all that stuff. How was he like? What was he like? Pove? Yeah.

He likes to get people on their toes. I remember one time he came to the Hit Factory Criteria Studios in North Miami. And it's probably one of the most legendary studios in the world, forget about Miami. But Timbaland would have his studio on one end of the building, I had my studio on the other end. And I know Jay-Z came over and

He said yo Scott Timberland making some fire over there. I was like really really I get a call like From Timberland he's like what you making over there man Jay-Z came over and told me that you had some super fire over there He was trying to get us on our competitive to get the best out of us and get the eye of the tiger out of us. Piss us off, like, oh, his shit was hot and mine wasn't. Like, smart guy. Did it work?

Yeah, it kinda worked. Did it work? It got you guys, too. Yeah, I mean, I guess it did. We figured it out, though. What was it, did you ever do anything with Kanye? With Kanye? Yeah. Man, he used

to be one of my musical heroes. Used to be. I mean, the music is still great and that won't change. But as a person who was my friend and somebody I thought was an amazing person, one of the most creative people, turned out to be a fucking piece of shit. And I will fucking lose it if I see this guy in public, man. You know, like the disrespect that this man did to Jewish people and just labeling us and like glorifying Hitler and shit like that, and then doing it again, and like really going like for the jugular.

If I was in a room, I'd probably fucking crack him in his face and like he broke my heart. One of his people, Che, that like works for good music is one of my friends and I said, yo, tell your man he hurt me. Like I thought I was his friend, but I guess I can't be his friend because I'm Jewish. Like, word?

Like you're gonna glorify, what if a motherfucker's walking around talking about glorifying like slavery and shit like that? Like, how does that work? Like, how are you gonna do that and just like hurt so many people? I don't know what was behind that. Like shock value at the expense of like

so many people's heartbreaking and like we lost Kanye like I threw out all my yeezys Like I couldn't believe it. Seriously. I mean are you aware of like how this dude like He really went in man like on some hate shit like I don't get that like the other Taylor Swift shit was funny Like sort of like whatever but this is a different story man. Why do you think what I mean you're in the world Why do you think he did? I don't know man like a lot of cool Jewish people like help help them rise to the top You know, I mean, there's a lot of cool people Are you are you in contact with them? Like have you asked them? Have you approached him or no?

I sent a message to him just telling me broke my arm. I'm cool. It's all good. You never got back. He's a clown, dude He's a clown made great music, but he's a fucking clown No, it's not gonna hold back. I might get some backlash for the shit. I'm saying I don't give a fuck I'm good. I'm good. Like I'm good like these time so it's over here I'm Nazi. I Love Hitler now what yeah, it's one thing as for me. I don't know Kanye like you do like like try to like friend of yours, yeah, like did he forget that this is the guy who like

fucking like Burn people and gas chambers and like innocent people kids and like what the fuck is that? What kind of clowns I know you want to be wittyitty and you wanna be original, you wanna be cool and say some off the cuff shit or some weird shit. That shit's not cool, man. Who the fuck are you? Who's closest? Because when you saw this pattern,

it was right after what happened with his shoe deal. It was right after Kim K, right after things happened, marriage issues. Who's in this year that he would listen to? Who do you think he is where he can explain why he's gotten here? Because he lost a lot of money. It's not like this was a smart business decision. It cost him billions of dollars. Who's in his ears that he will listen to? I don't know, man. I don't know. He ain't listening to nobody nobody he got some screws loose

But is John Monopoly still managing him? I have no idea What was the last time you had any interaction with him last time I met him over at He called me down to meet him at um Rick Rubin studio. I did the Beastie Boys and shit Yeah, it's called Shangri-La in Malibu and I remember when I got there He was in a meeting with James purse the clothing my guy and waited and we just hung out for a little bit and You know, it's all good. Well, you're was that I don't remember. This is you and Kanye. Yeah. Yeah Listen that shit it hurts me to like lose people like that, but like I don't care I don't got time for how close were you guys not close? but I don't know

But on the music side, I mean It's obviously you appreciated his talent. I mean, yeah He's a beast in the studio, but that's no excuse Look, I got my faults. I was fucking like maniac, cokehead, and lost a hundred million dollars like partying and shit. That's, it's not smart either. But one's a disease and one's hate. So whatever, I have a good heart.

And I think all people are created equally. And you know, I don't care what race, creed, color, this, that, you are, we all the same. We all shit brown, like, you know, don't care what race creed color this that you are we all the same we all shit brown like you know it's so funny like I always make this analogy like in terms of like Middle Easterns and Israelis or whatever I'm like we all eat kebabs man like it's all good you know but like oh here's what is I just gotta move on you were talking about earlier when? To the Grammys with Paris and you guys you guys used to date you and Paris Hilton. Yeah, I mean, how did that happen? Um,

She came I was living at the time on Indian Creek Island Why I left there I'm fucking retarded Ivanka Trump just recently bought that house I You know about your house. Yeah, my old house. Okay old house, but after that Trump just recently bought that house. Bought your house? Yeah, my old house. My old house. But after that house, I sold that house. I bought it from the founder of Southern Wine and Spirits. And then I sold it a couple years later to move closer to disaster.

I was safe in Bell Harbor, and then I moved to Palm Island, and that's where all the fucked up shit happened. So yeah, Paris came to work with me. We ended up dating and had a relationship, and she introduced me to like paparazzi's nightlife, being like the man, Us Weekly, fuckin', you know, TMZ, like this whole party life and wild shit

that I never experienced before, because I was in the studio night and day. I was rich, I had every car you can imagine, but they only went from the house to the studio and back. Friends would come over and they would go to the club, and then they would come back after, but then I would ask them how it was. think I was like nervous to even be cool at that point and then she came along and I was cool and I got addicted to that that

was some douchebag shit on my behalf that I got so caught up in that and a change to I was like I was hanging out with like people that are just not good, people that think they're better than others, I don't want to call out names, whatever, it's too insulting, but just like Hollywood douchebags, and you are what you hang out with, and it changed me from being this innocent, soulful, organic person to this quest for fame, and this quest for fame

and this quest to, I wasn't even really that sprung on Paris, but I think we both used each other. I had music and she had fame and we were just like, cool. Great connection. Yeah. Yeah. There was a story that came out, a video that was shown saying back in the days when Kim K was Paris Hilton's assistant, was it true, when Kim K was Paris Hilton's assistant.

Was it true? Was Kim K Paris's assistant? Yeah, she used to sleep in my guest room. And then some weird shit happened, I'm not going to say what happened, but and then she made it to the to the master bedroom. Paris found out or? No, it was just like, she and I were done. And like, I think we were both like, had it.

And we were like, commiserating. What did he say? Karen's, she's commiserating at the house from the Goodfellas. And whatever. Karen. Yeah, so like, yeah, we ended up being a thing. Like she was awesome, bro.

She was a super cool girl. Kim was awesome. Yeah, like. What was awesome about her? She was a super cool girl. Kim was awesome. What was awesome about her? She was organic and she was just like, eager to like, she wanted to build her career up. She kind of followed Paris's blueprint with the foreign shit after whatever. But at that time she was just a cool kid

and put it this way, there's a video on YouTube somewhere where I'm pulling up in car number four Bugatti Veyron ever so like it was the new thing like people reintroduced the Bugatti and I pulled up with Kim Kardashian to mansion on Washington Avenue 12th and Washington is that it yeah that's it that's what you guys are quick that's my car too behind him That was my driver that used to carry all my drugs for me Mercedes Maybach, I think that was 62. Yeah, and that's you and Kim right there. I bought one of those from Paris Yeah, that's me and Kim, but if you listen to the audio on that nobody knows that's Kim. They're just like they're Scott Storch Yeah, Scott Storch yo

in the Bugatti Yo, if I put this I would say it will be first. I had the first Bugatti Andrew Tate can thank you as well. You're so yeah. No, I talk motherfuckers had a ball. That's Kim K. Yep So at this point are you guys an item or just yeah, obviously yeah And what it how did Paris feel about the fact that you know, she went fuck No, how did Paris feel? What did this do to her relationship with Kim didn't help? Was done already. Oh was done already. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh fake shit, dude. I Must have I have so many sub stories within that that would have you like if I told them but it's just like Kim was abused like

By that friendship taunted because she was so hot. I guess there was maybe jealousy Who was so hot Kim Kim was hot? Yeah, was it more physically hot or her energy her spirit her everything? Her mom was hot like like, you know, like she was dope like back in the day. Like she just, that family, you know, they was cool. She's like, she was at a low point like too. And so I was like, some guy that she was with, like I think like blew her inheritance or something

at that point, like that she got. And one of her dudes like, yeah, she like, she got and one of her dudes like yeah, she like She's like Taking punches, but she said fucking I'm gonna go there and she did it and then she had the last laugh She definitely did have the last seven she's the shit. How's the relationship today with you and Kim and Paris? I'm cool with everybody man. Like I don't know maybe not after this interview No, but I just recently spoke to Kim a long ago and laughed about old times and shit.

Yeah, she's hella cool, she's still. She's been through a lot, man. Like that marriage with that fucking retard, bro. I can imagine that takes its toll. Because I know other people that have dated him too. One of them's Amber Rose, who's like a fucking amazing person. We call her mother because she's such a motherly person.

And this dude used to like make her like try and dress her and like a doll, like, you know, like it's weirdo. I'll never forget Kanye, not to just be on dissing Kanye, but I remember he came in to visit me and Dr. Dre and we're in the studio in the middle of making beats and we were like kind of interrupted But we were like, alright cool, whatever and he's like I need to take a picture with you guys So we took a picture with him. It was cool. He left Left the building went like drove somewhere came back and said my outfit wasn't right Let me take another picture.

And he said, me and Dre looked together like, fuck, what the fuck is this shit? He stormed out of the studio one time later, I was told, I wasn't there with Dre, and he called him the devil. He's like, you're the devil! And he ran out like. Can he call Dre the devil?

Yeah, yeah. What prompted that? I don't fucking know. making devil music for me or something I guess he was on his holy kick You're making this did you making devil music for me with Drake, huh? The world's never heard these stories I'm just letting it rip today. Fuck it. Good. Yeah, everybody's gonna be pissed in you. Okay. Well, I mean I'm like the grumpy old man I'm like the grumpy old man. Arrrrgh! But by the way, did you ever watch the movie Straight Outta Compton?

What did you think about it? It was cool. It was cool. I mean, you know, it's a Hollywood movie, you know. A lot of the shit gets... Exaggerated a little bit? I don't know. Can be, yeah. But I mean, those guys, like, they're forefathers of rap music and the independent record label and shit like that.

Like, there's many things about that like that changed the face of music. Dre is a beast, that's all I can say. He knows, some people know how to start a record, he knows how to finish a record. There's another producer like that, Lou Bell, who does all Post Malone shit so super talented guy super organized like almost reminds me of what's the guy ten minutes to Wapner Rain Man right now

like he's fussing rain man the guy is so intense Lou Bell yeah that guy he's another like in a different way but like that level of that Dre's at, but knowing how to finish a record. He does like him and Andrew White, they do like all the Post Malone shit. He's a modern day genius. But um, weird, I got off track. Yeah, you were talking about, you know, Kanye, you were talking about Kim, Paris, you know know how that whole thing came about and pulling up in a

Bugatti the Ford one Ralph Lauren beat me. I think the first two were not sold but it was car number four That and in this whole Dre situation you're in the studio and all this when does Snoop come into your situation, bro? Very early. That was one of the coolest things. Yeah, well tell us about Snoop. Snoop-a-loo. He's awesome, bro. I consider myself, like you know, a lot of people are like, yeah, I'm cool with Snoop.

Me and him are pals, like we're cool. He's always shown me love, and he's such a humble guy. I remember one time I went to his house in Claremont back in the day, and he's one of my mug shots. That's nice. He You're gonna pull it on mug shots. No, one of them.

He was like sweeping up his own house and shit. I was just like, just a cool guy, man. Loves to smoke. Stoop was sweeping up his own. Yeah, I remember he was just like cleaning up and shit like. Good for him. Did you ever film? What did you, what did you produce with Dre and Snoop together?

Still Dre. Still Dre, okay. Yeah, the number one, I think, rap song in the history of music. And then in that time period. But I did stuff on Snoop's albums too. Okay. But look, going to these sessions

and becoming part of this album that was like, I think there was like a lack of like, where we're going with the sound before I got there. I mean, it was like cool. And I got there and it's like, all of a sudden, there's this like, not P-Funk thing happening anymore. It's like more orchestral and like ominous sounding shit. That's when we started and like went into these sessions

and I was meeting people that were like blowing my mind every day, like Snoop was there, this one, Ice Kid. All these fucking amazing people were there and I never was around famous people like that other than The Roots. And it was so amazing. What was the one time when someone walked in

and you're like, get out of town, this guy's here? Who was that? All kinds of weird people. I mean, nobody, like, I'm just like, maybe just like thrown off like by certain, like Paulie Shore would walk in the studio. Like just random people, like who the fuck? He would like take pictures of a.

Cino man. There you were. And then in this time period, Death Row Records, Tupac had recently been killed a few years prior. What was Suge Knight's involvement on this? What stories do you have of Suge? My Suge stories were a little later. They were like seven, eight years later. But you know, there's good and bad in everybody, but I know that, I don't know what happened, because I wasn't there, between him and Dre and all that shit,

so I can only speculate, but I was living in LA in Ted Field's house that was prior to me living in this area called The Summit, a really prestigious gated community. And if you know anything about LA, you wanna be in Beverly Park, where Rod Stewart and all these people live in, or the Summit.

So all- The Summit in Woodland Hills? No, the Summit is in Beverly Hills. Okay. Yeah. And like everybody lived in there. I mean, countless people. Van Halen and all these everybody lived in there. I mean countless people then Helen life

and I was in there and this is like a replica of I Think it was like the prince of Monaco's house some crazy fucking house like and I rented it like and And I one day I'm like coming, like maybe the third or fourth day, living in there, I see Shug and his son walking in. I was like, Shug lives in here, interesting. So he noticed me and then like randomly we ended up like hanging and yeah, I mean, I don't know.

It is what it is. It was a bittersweet relationship, but I still got love for him. He is the guy that got Tupac out of jail and blessed us with that for the world. But you mentioned something earlier about what's my funniest Shug story. Shug and I went to Vegas one time together

and checked into the Cosmo and I Was in a room under his name. He got the rooms for us This is gotta be last 15 years because Cosmos 15 years old. Yeah, and There's a knock at the door Security I'm like what the fuck's going on. There's an unpaid min door. Security. I'm like, what the fuck's going on? There's an unpaid minibar bill. I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

Obviously I'm a fuck up at this point. I'm completely out of my mind on drugs, coke, ecstasy, and fucking everything. And unpaid, but I was like, okay, I'll go down and pay it. This and that. They just had gots for fucking sugar, right? And I'm taking down not to the front desk to pay this mini bar bill, but I'm taking to a holding cell. Mind you, I had like bags and when they knocked on the door,

I grabbed them and put them in here. As soon as, I was a fucking idiot. I was like, can I have a tissue? And I took one of the bags, and I was putting the bag in the tissue and threw it in the garbage. A cop comes running in, we got it! And I was off to jail, in PC, handcuffed to a tranny,

for like two days. And he finally bailed me out. And then he got arrested for I think throwing a bag of McDonald's out the window of my Bentley Mulsane. And it was just the most random shit. Like yeah, on the same train we were like, let's get the fuck out of here, bro. It was just one of those moments.

It was such a dysfunctional moment. But you know, we'll just say that he and I were not on our like, best level of our lives. Scott, how did you get into it a whole, like the first time you did Coke, how old were you? Like when you started playing today? I feel like it was the year, I think I'm 2006.

Also 99, you're doing stuff with Dre, you're doing nothing for her. Nothing my whole life. You're clean. I told you I was introduced to a certain life when I fucking, I'm not blaming her. I'm just saying that life introduced me to drugs. So first time you did it, who was it with?

Use your imagination. Oh okay, so the first time we got, okay the two of you together, got it. And then from there, was it like zero to 100 million like this? It was fucking fun. What do you mean in terms of? How quickly did you go through the hundred million dollars? Party and the Fast Life, the X, the Coke.

Did it last a few years? The burn rate was a couple million a month. Like, you know, three million. No, I was going for a minute. Like, I was living great. But like, I said this like recently, but I was a collector of things. Tchotchkes, whatever, you know what that is?

It's like, Tchotchkes, like Swartzkees, Yajos, Laudiques, and this and that. Pieces of art, planes, boats, you know. Anything I had, 30 cars, you know. Whatever it is, I liked was like. 30 cars, you know, whatever it is. I like was like 30 cars. Yeah. I remember Mike Gordon, the guy that owned the Fort Lauderdale collection.

He sent me home one day. He said, you have everything, get the fuck out of here. I was like, what's that classic back there? It's a Cuda, I'll take it. And he kicked me out the door. I was like, no, I want it, I want it. And who was in your corner at this point that being like Scott pumped the brakes?

My financial guy who said I was unmanageable. I would buy shit sometimes just to like prove to myself that I was like a human, like I was cool because to make up for the low self-esteem for knowing what I was doing with drugs. So you knew what you were doing was wrong but you overcompensated with material items is that what you're saying? I guess yeah I would like be fucking up for three days and feel like a piece of shit feel

like an animal and like I would order like four cars I just like Make myself feel better. What did you buy? anything SLRs Hastings this that whatever was cool at the time Murciela goes Tell me about your upbringing mom and dad relationship. Who are you closer? Not really close with my parents, I mean I love my mom mom, I love my dad, I just lost my dad. I kinda like grew up not understanding

the dynamic of my parents' relationship. And I was like always like as a kid, blaming my dad because they broke up and like this and that but then I realized they're both humans. My mom was nagging the shit out of them. She was like Bayside Queens. It sounded like Fran Drescher just like bitching at you all the time.

Hypochondriac and just, but I love her. She's a great heart, but you know, she's got, she's like, you know what Mother's Little Helper is, the song from the Rolling Stones about Valium? 40 years of Valium, 50 years of Valium does something to your brain. Wow. Yeah. And then combine that with after my dad,

she was with Frank DeMeo, the famous hit man. She was with Frank DeMeo? Yeah. Like she was like- He Frank DeMeo. No, there's Roy DeMeo, there's a bunch of them, but like, yeah, this guy's from Sheepsheadio. Yeah, like she was like he Frank DeMaiio No, there's void. There's a punch of them but like yeah this guy's from Sheepshead Bay Brooklyn and he was a hit man his father was an underboss Jimmy DeMaiio and

There's quite a few DeMaios in the mafia world, but like this guy I Remember like she's like, why don't you go with Frankie and like, you know, you bond with him He's not was a racist fucking asshole. But like I remember he takes me I'm like 11 or 12. He takes me to The hardware store you wanted to get a nozzle for the hose and he's like has a stack of money like this in his pocket He's like $13 fuck that he puts it in his pants. Don't tell your mother then we go from there to his house. He was living in our garden apartment in Verrari

at the time, but like, he was like, we gotta stop by my house where he was selling coke out of, I guess, or whatever. And all of a sudden I hear, I'm waiting in the car, it's like, boom, boom, boom, boom. And he lived on a baseball field. I remember seeing him chasing some guys that were probably robbing his drug spot

or something in there and like firing guns at him and shit and he's like like all this crazy shit I was just like don't tell your mother none of this like holy shit is this Roy DeMille no Frank DeMille Frank DeMille yeah he was like uh you know the expression a a knock around guy? A knock around guy is like the low level gangster guy. His father was an underboss, he was the shit. Like he was, you know, this guy was like, again, like you could probably find shit about this guy for sure.

He was involved, when my mom met him, he was like running the Tin Lizzie. It's like one of these restaurants in Fort Lauderdale and Bobby Rubino, all these guys were involved. Bobby Rubino, the place for ribs. Yeah, these are like fucking mafia spots, bro. Really? Fuck yeah.

Fucking cash cows. So yeah, that was one of the reasons why I moved in with my dad. Because I remember one of my first experiences of trying to make music, I was doing anything I could, these kids that were new edition cover band, we were called the Omni Five, and it was like four brothers and me.

And I remember he came home and it's hot Florida day and there's five brothers in the living room with no shirts on and he's like, get the fuck out of here, your mom's in here. I'm like, so, like whatever. I was like, man, fuck this, I'm going to my dad. We'll do my dad and then he moved to Philly. How old were you when you lived with dad?

15. And mom didn't mind, she didn't have prom? I mean, part of it like also was like, she broke up with that guy too shortly after that, and then she didn't, because I was gonna go back and live with her again after that, but she couldn't. She lost her alimony because he moved in with us

on the Inverary, so she moved in with her parents who live in Lauderdale West, and there was no room for me. So I stugged it out with my dad. I didn't want to move to Philly, but I'm glad I did. Everything happens for a reason. It's all written in the stone. So you were closer to Pops. I became, you know, like I said, like I wasn't thrilled with him, but he was definitely a more a stable parent. Like, you know, I mean, his thing was the ponies. He liked, he liked to play, you know, I got a new system. I've got the sheets and that, like always like, His thing was the ponies. He liked to play.

I got a new system, I've got the sheets and that. Always like, look, casinos don't make money from the buffet. So was the chaos from your upbringing something that put the fire in your belly to keep competing at the highest levels to kind of prove value to yourself? Was it kind of like, when you're talking about it, you just bought four cars, like you're like, every time I wanted to fly.

Yeah, insecure, like yeah. You know what's so funny, you know, I'm gonna come back to what you just said. Lately my motto has been, you don't need to have a Ferrari. Be the Ferrari, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm potent when I talk to a girl like I Feel like I don't need all that shit. I don't need this. I mean half things were like I typically don't I Don't like even like really like that shit doesn't matter anymore to me name brands and shit

I'm rather wear a black t-shirt. Your son sitting to your left, the weird life you've lived, what advice are you giving him? I mean, you're open about it, so it's not like you're, you know, he knows that. He's giving me advice. What the fuck kind of shit? This kid, his work ethic is so crazy. Like, he'll be working before you wake up

and working when you go to sleep. I love that. He's that dude. I love that. He's that dude. I love that. He absorbed this shit. Like he's another alien and such a good soul. Does it come natural to him how it came natural to you? Did you teach him?

How does that work? I teach him shit. Yeah. Yep, he's just passionate. Like I said, anything you do is you do it for passion, not for money. You get good at it. And then fucking money just comes from that. Me and him, we're making records together.

All the shit I do now, I do with my son. But by the way, what's the business model? When you say you went through $100 million, that means you had to make a cup a hundred million dollars What is the business model in? Being a producer because you said when he first went to Dre he gave you ten thousand dollars hotel and things like that right so publishing The revenue streams that come from that there's so many there's songwriter share neighboring rights publishing As an example is what song that you wrote? That that you you produced what gave you example? What song that you wrote, that you produced,

what one song gave you the most income? These are all huge. I made some of the biggest records. Give me one of them. You said off this one song, off this album I made $6.8 million. I made the most money when I went to Florida in the mid-2000s because I was doing, it wasn't like I went to Florida and the mid 2000s

Because I was doing it wasn't like I was splitting and making the records with like a bunch of people I was doing them by myself all of them All of them Beyonce's records huge Mario let me love you lean back make it rain. What is a mario?? Let me love you make you millions millions. Yeah still Till today you're getting residuals. Yeah, there's income streams Like I said for a publisher for somebody like Blackstone who's trying to buy a catalog They're gonna pay at Most for like these new catalogs because they

After a while they go spike and that's it 10x 12x 10x whatever in the world my catalog 25 30 X because they know they ain't gonna get it because like trade just sold his catalog for 200 million to Warner or universal excuse me. And I remember him telling me like, why, well, I, because I told him something about my catalog and he's like, yo, you should sell it, this, that, the other. I said, why?

I thought you're supposed to give it so you have generational wealth. He's like, fuck that, I'm like, he's like, I'm, you know, this age and this and that, and like, my kids aren't gonna know how to do anything with this catalog and really market it. And he's like, and I asked my lawyer, how old will I be to get 200 million out of this catalog?

And he said, I think he was like 130 years old. And he's like, fuck that, I'm gonna use this money while I'm on earth and turn it in, buy real estate, do something great with it. He was concerned that if I sell a catalog like that, I'm gonna blow it. He's like, are you gonna blow it? Because that's it.

So, he said, if you're not gonna blow it, invest it, sell it. So on here, Dad, Joy's catalog was making 10 million year annually and they bought it for 250. So if that's the case they pay 25 X for it My point exactly Wow, what's the story about the fact that? Shug bought one of your catalogs for $419,000 and some change what is that story? I think I've read that somewhere. No, that's not true

You know which one I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was not him. He was involved in Not that catalog not that big catalog or anything but like it was a for 19 306 20 419 thousand three hundred six dollars and 20 cents That's not true I'm trying to say maybe I misread this. No, it was a company called Royalty Advanced Company. It wasn't the publishing catalog. It was in 2000, it's a Scostor struggling financial

intimidation by Shook Knights, signing to a portion of the songwriting royalties into a troubled period 2012. Yeah, no. Music royalty consulting? That's not true. No, no, no. Okay. Because I remember when I talked to Vanilla Ice, told me we should held him over the you know balcony

Are you better sign this or else and you know, how much truth is that stories? It's not kind of happened. You know, he took a complete different angle Which you do you doubt that shook wouldn't do that with his reputation? Well, listen, I remember one time I'm hanging out with Reggie Calloway. I don't know if you know Reggie Calloway. You know, J. King. Reggie Calloway was, I wanna be rich, he sang Casanova.

You know, Reggie Calloway. He sang at my wedding, Casanova was Laverne. Yeah, he sang at the wedding. But no parking on the dance floor, I think that's it. Anyways, J. King was with Club Nouveau. Do you remember Club Nouveau? Look at all these rumors. Okay, so Jay becomes an insurance agent.

They also did the lean on me. Yes, yes, yes. He did another one called Why You Treat Me So Bad. That was my favorite song from those guys. Jay King, till today I listen to it. You know your shit, man. Why You Treat Me So Bad. I remember Jay and I, we spent a lot of time together.

So I say, Jay, you gotta get into insurance. There's a lot of money. All right, man, I'll go get my license. He gets his insurance license. Jay, you gotta learn how to sell insurance. You gotta put me in front of some people. Says perfect. First person he puts me in front of is Suge Knight.

That's crazy. This guy's not gonna get a proof of life insurance, Jay. I gotta tell you a funny story about the insurance. You wanna hear something? He brought you to Shook Night. Jake King introduced me to Shook Night at, I think Jake can correct me on this, he'll call me, was at the Four Seasons Beverly Hills, or one of the-

Burton Way. Yeah, I don't know which one it was. He used to love to hang there. Yeah. That was Shook's spot. That was Shook's spot. What was that interaction like? I would, listen, I've had a handful of interactions with him, minus when he calls me from prison

he says, yo, just so you know, Pete, you need to know this, the hook fucks with you. This is what she looks at. That is true. I want to do a podcast with you, man. I'm like, all right, cool, let's do it. And then we did a nice little- There's a very loving side of him. Very interesting side.

I had a Thanksgiving with him one time. It's a complex character in the movie that you can't quite figure out. That's basically him. But he was saying to him about insurance. I'll tell you some funny shit. When I lived on Palm Island, no, I was living on Los Olas at the time. I hired a caterer last minute.

I was like, I need fucking 30 people catering, this and that. This guy named Seth Cohen is the caterer who's serving drinks at my thing and like I'm on top of the world Go flash forward to like my fall They reach out to me this guy Seth Cohen is like by the way I'm rich as fuck now like and I want to hire you to make some music for my it was Brad Cohen actually his brother That he wanted me to make music for his wife and his Kids or whatever the hell was and put some money in my pocket. These guy went from being my caterer to being a member of the alfalfa club to being like insurance care direct

Is this guy? No, that's the lawyer insurance care direct type in insurance care direct. Mm-hmm Go to Images Wrap. And Brad and Seth, these guys blew the fuck up from an office that was smaller than half the size of this room, bro, and just sweated that shit out, and now they're buying up all the crown jewels of fucking Fort Lauderdale, the Anheuser Bush house.

There's one by one, they're buying them all. Yeah, they fucking crushed them. Now Seth is doing AI insurance sales. He was before anybody could even think of it. He's got the patent on it. It's a lot of money in insurance. Bro, he's doing, imagine AI. He played me both sides of an AI call

Of insurance it was way better than a human Like if you know you ask this thing and it's gonna answer you the right information concise clear at the right tempo Aesthetically pleasing to the ear like I was like what the fuck? Yeah, like your whole like workforce is like gonna be like it's gonna change the call centers gone with AI but by the way increase your shit 80% like oh the game has changed and insurance there's a lot of money in it Scott did you ever do anything with Mariah Carey or no yes how was how was she she's awesome bro of all, we made a song called Side Effects

about Tommy Mottola. That was like, and I've worked with her with Jada Kiss. I did this on K. Jada Kiss. I, S, S, me. Yeah, we did that. But Mariah used to call me and do like crank calls and like do Jerky Boy's impression.

Yes, this is me, Kissle. Or Sal Rosenberg. Sal Rosenberg. Fucking funny as hell me, Kissle, or Sol Rosenberg. Sol Rosenberg. Fucking funny as hell, she's awesome, bro. She's the fucking diva. Sol Rosenberg. What was the difference between working with someone like her versus someone like Beyonce?

Both beautiful, both talented. Bro, I mean they're both different, you know. One is more country and like, more hood, and then like, and just like real, she's a diva. That's Park Avenue right there. Let me tell you though, Mariah Carey's voice is truly something else. Insane.

Honestly, if we ran a poll right now, what's the greatest voice of all time? You would hear Whitney Houston, you would hear Freddie Mercury. Elvis is probably gonna be on that list. Steve Perry is gonna be on that list, right? You're gonna have- Bopper Streisand.

I think Lou Graham from Foreigner as well. Oh my God, I wanna know what love is. Yeah, I mean those guys, 80s for sure. Tarrell Hall. You have to. You have to, I'm looking at this list. Mar. I as a bee you have to put Mariah on it By the way, Lady Gaga's got a voice as well. But Mariah Carey's voice. Oh Mario is one of the greatest voices Christina Aguilera. Yeah

She made a song by the way called fuck you Scott Storch Yeah, I tell you why I can tell you that's a funny fucking story. Irving Azoff, fucking special. Is there any chance I can take a five second cigarette break and we'll come back and talk about Irving fucking, they call the poison dwarf in the, you ever see that book Hitman? It's about all the early people in music,

like the serious like moguls oh yeah you see that he's one of them if I'll explain that song when I get back after this okay advertisement five minute break hey what's going on I'm Scott storage and you might have seen me on the PBD podcast and you might have some questions You want to ask me I'm available on the minnet app and you can ask me about pretty much anything music Industry stuff, you know my life and my history or you know anything technical questions with music equipment Whatever production techniques Check it out, Minette.

Mariah Carey is what we were talking about. You were telling the fact that Christina Aguilera wrote a song called F-U-S-S and I think it means, does it mean what I think it means? Fuck you, Scott Storch. All right, so tell us how this happened. How did this happen? Okay.

I aligned forces with her to make the stripped album, which sold a ridiculous amount of copies. And I did like, the bulk of the album. And then Linda Perry did some from Four Non Blonde. I don't know if you know that is yeah Mike a little closer Yeah, well better that's really cool, so um Yeah, and that album we killed it Irving a loft being her manager guy who started like giant records and went on to own live nation and he's like a guy who started like Giant Records and went on to own Live Nation. And he's like, but you know,

there's a famous book called Hitman. This guy? Yeah, that he's referred to as the Poison Dwarf. And that name is like accurate. How tall is he? For this fucking guy. He's one of them guys. Like I don't really dog anybody out

I mean so like Kanye was like I'm pissed at him for that but like I'm really like I don't really have anything bad to Say about anybody. Um, I Do this guy so when I when I went to do the poison dwarf That's a pretty due to An aggressive even He's what Kanye's talking about. All right fine. I get it. No That's fucked up. That's really cool. Well at any rate this guy When I went to do this record

They gave me an advance. I think it was like a quarter million Which is a very fair price me considering my price tag was 80 per song. I ended up doing seven songs on the album and I think two interludes as well. The record went crazy. It was her biggest album. Most of the ones or half of the songs I did became hit singles. Anyway, now it's like, I was living in LA at that time. Now I'm living in Florida.

So they called to do the next album. And I was like, you know what? In the spirit of good business, I don't want any increase, just give me the same thing. My manager calls me at the time, Derek Jackson, and says, Scott, this guy said you are lucky to work with her and be involved in such a big album. Not that I helped make the big album and shape it sound like I'm like the core and the nucleus of what it was,

but he said he's not giving you any advance. You just come to work and you're lucky you have the opportunity. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, I don't believe this. I was like, you call him and talk about this stuff. I wanna be listening in. So I'm listening in and he's like going on and on like, yeah, Scott's lucky to be involved with singer

like Christina and this and that and like fuck Scott And you know, you know, he's just trying to like play tough guy with me I'm over what like peanuts like 250. What the fuck is that? You're gonna blow you just sold 19 million copies in this shit and like whatever I get my royalties. That's one But the actual recoupable producer advance He was trying to like, you to be a goalie with it. And I was like, okay, so I'm listening and listening

and listening, and at one point he's like, fuck Scott. And this and that. So I was like, yo motherfucker, I'm on the phone by the way. And he's like, here's the deal. I need two million to do the album now, or I'm not doing it, and you need to send fucking NetJet with a fucking, I think it was at the time a g4 and like I need the Clive Davis bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel and I need a per diem every day of a thousand for

food on top of all this I was just like fuck you okay me and Christina were really close. Clive, I have Clive stories too. This is like the fucking, you ever see this show, what is it, the Blacklist? With, what was that guy? But anyways, he's just like, yeah. And like every episode is like he's going after somebody else. At any rate, this is like the blacklist today.

At any rate, so Christina found out about this and this and that, and she was just like, oh fuck Scott, this and that, I'm gonna make the album without him. You know what I mean? She and I were like on the bordering of the romantic side of things, and it was like, and it just was just like a lot of like

crazy shit and this guy got between our relationship creatively and friendship wise and turned us against each other basically. And yeah, he's a real fucking shit. What's he doing now? Is he still? I don't know, he's not in Live Nation anymore. I don't know what the fuck he's doing.

But I remember his daughter was like the assistant on the album. She was cool, Allison. So that was the end of it, would you increase that? So then the album comes out and it didn't go platinum, it went wood. That shit was like a disaster. She went from like 18 million copies to like two.

Or something crazy. Yeah man, it was like, didn't sell shit. And then she fell off the map. Yeah, but that was included in that, a song called Fuck You Scott Storz. What's the lyrics? Can you go to it? I wanna know what she says in that.

I mean, she basically lists all the songs in a lyric that we did. I thought I knew who you were. I see how you learned the bridge. Now I was the first to believe I made you part of music dream and your thanks to me came without an apology. We wrote loving for me, don't walk away, can't hold us down. Now this sounds like you guys have an intimate relationship.

You know, it sounds like a scorned lover. We used to lay down together at night. It wasn't really that physical or anything, but we became those friends that are teetering on. Like dry hunk of cow stuff. Making out and shit. Yeah, I don't know whatever the fuck it was. But she was into some weird shit.

When we met and we're making this album, a lot of this music was inspired by, she was with this guy named, I think his name was George. He was like one of the dancers and he was gay and she wanted him to be straight and it was just like a fucking weird. It's hard to turn that thing around. Yeah, like I think she was like one of those people

that like tried to turn gay people. Dated her back up. She wanted a challenge. Scott, this brings up a very good question. Pat always talks about if you're building a championship team, right? Who's the most important piece is the GM? Is it the coach is at the star players the front office, right? If you're making a hit record you have the producer You have the artist right the singer the rapper. What have you give the record label? Here's why you have the marketing team There's a gray area. What's the best? I know what you're saying.

Yeah. The role of the producer who really is the guy that puts the shit together has changed. The definition of that word has changed. Now the producer is some guy who makes a fucking beat and sends it on a CD. Back in the day, the producer like me is the guy that sees the whole thing through

and makes sure that you have the right writer, you have the right conviction and emotion coming out of the vocals. You have the guys finishing it, the guy, and he's just a real producer. Back in the day, George Martin was the producer of The Beatles, but he wasn't really making the music. He was just guiding them and like putting that special sauce on it of these songs that they did. So it's like it's a different thing.

But ultimately, the most vital piece of an artist or like, you know, what's behind the artist, A is the artist himself, the manager, I think the producer for sure, because he's like creating this, setting the tone. And then the guys at the label that know how to like, sell it, you know what I mean? They know how to sell it. Yeah, they know how to put it in the right places. Scott, Diddy parties, all the stuff that Diddy's going through, did you have a close relationship?

You were in the Palm, so you're in Miami, he's down here, what was your relationship with Diddy? He was on Star, I was on Palm, and we were cool, like, you know, we were like comrades, so to speak, like real cool. I was invited to all the parties and this and that, but I wasn't staying late at those parties because I would leave for my parties, which were, you know, potent as well.

But I wasn't, like, there was no, like, swinger shit or fuckin' other shit. You didn't have swinger stuff? No, I'm the only dick in the room. I don't like, I'm not into that weird shit. You didn't have to do your stuff. No, I'm the only dick in the room. I don't like that. I'm not into that weird shit. Like, I don't want to have no part of that. But there were some bad bitches in my house

and excess of everything. And I remember like, my house was more like the Wolf of Wall Street type of vibes. It was like, I don't know. There was no weird shit going on but I didn't really see any weird shit at Diddy's because it was just to me it seemed like everybody was having a great time and he was the provider of an

Amazing event that everybody wanted to get into and like all the time and spared no expense with fireworks and all kinds of shit and all the time and spared no expense with fireworks and all kinds of shit and All the endless people I was one of the few people was allowed to go in the house and during the money's parties Most people are just like left outside Huge people whose house is that Rob? That was mine. Oh, that's your house. Yeah, it's nice Yeah, I was the first buyer of that. It's called the Villa Ferrari bunch of builders like into a fight and like it was like I had to finish the house at any rate oh yeah so at these Diddy parties you get invited into the house not many people

get into the house yeah but again there was nothing even remotely so when you hear these stories Because I was in the fucking hiding in the media room doing like coke and so, you know I mean, and I remember did he looking at me and he's like What does that stuff make you feel like and with me in another famous producer in there? And we're like trying to explain it to him But I guess over time, he was probably introduced, I don't know for sure,

or kept things around for people that wanted it. But at this time, you're saying that Diddy didn't even know what coke was. He wasn't doing any drugs. He was joking around with us, but he was kinda looking at us like, what does that shit make y'all feel like, and this and that.

It was just like, he was like, innocent type vibe. But like. Meaning he didn't do drugs. I think he was doing probably probably ecstasy and molly that was more socially acceptable at that time You know later we learned that leaves like holes in your brain and like robs you of your serotonin and shit like that but look Here's my take on the diddy thing forget about the parties Who did he is who they're trying to make him out to be.

I said this just recently, I'll say it again. There's no excuse to hit a woman. I've never put my hands on a woman my whole life unless I was smacking her on the ass while I'm fucking. All right? I've never gotten to that stage where I'll just walk away like I'm not gonna get into a fight with you. You're not gonna, I've had girls that got violent with me,

I'm like no, goodbye, see ya, I'm not part of that. So who knows what the hell was going on during that, so there's no excuse for that. To me it looks like motherfuckers were up for three days doing some fucked up drug and it was like not who he is is now this like drugged up dopamine version of what did he is and like That shit somehow happened. I don't think he's somebody who just beats women up. He's not like Jake Lamar or some shit whatever the case is um

he um That was that as far as them saying to him like that He's a sex trafficker To me sex trafficking is selling pussy, right? I Think if anything he was like buying it and like just having girls on deck and putting them on a fucking Gulf Stream and going over state lines That's not cool. Like just call somebody like a sex trafficker like whatever the front Nobody was having a problem with eating caviar with him and taking his money like So I don't think that's fair. I think that

Rico you gotta have more than one name there. I just think that if you try and go up against liquor Oil You know like all the you know firearms Tobacco all these things like you're gonna have some fucking problems That's the real fucking illuminati and he went up against the agile and said I could do my own sirat and like They were like, oh, yeah They dropped a bomb on his ass the look the The crime doesn't fit the punishment

Him I still have my pictures up of Diddy on my Instagram now Disappointed. Yeah that he put his hands on a woman I'll forgive if I find out that he did something to a little kid or did some like pedophile shit Which I don't think they're gonna find because I don't think that's who he is. I don't get that from him I don't whatever pictures are trying to paint from his this devious guy. I mean Whatever like he's gangster for sure, like he's definitely like, he's from New York, like he's not a pussy. Is he a homosexual, bisexual, everybody's trying to push

that, is he a cuck, which is like watching other, I wasn't in the room, I do know I felt like at one point he tried to flirt with me and shit and I was like, I'm good on that type of shit. Oh really? Yeah, oh yeah. What do you mean he tried to flirt with you? I'm just gonna leave it simple like that.

I mean that's a pretty bold statement. Bro, I'm gonna say it like it fucking, it is what it is. He's my homie, man. Gotcha. But I just felt like that energy. But there was never any bad beef, there was never so anything weird. No, man, no, man, nothing but love. He's my homie man. Like gotcha, but like I just felt there was never any bad beef There's no nothing but love when you hear the stories about like well usher came to his house for diddy flavor camp

And then Justin Bieber showed up Any rumors in that anything any true? Everybody want to be around him. He's the fucking flyers do like he made the shit look good He's in Tommy Mottola's house, which is the sickest shit that he bought like on star island like sick like you know Like Justin was in fucking Molly malls house, you know, Molly mall The guy he was like that was like because he provided his different kind of thing like he was in Vegas in I think Neil Sadak or somebody's Some weird guys crib. I don't know what was

Think Neil Sadak or somebody's going some weird guys crib. I don't know who was And he had he was a pimp, you know I'm saying and he had all these broads around and he had a studio and he had like cool people we had pooh bear around That was a fun environment. Like, you know what I'm saying? What can I say? Like and people wanted to be there to Bieber wanted to be there. Nobody was taking advantage of people Beaver knew what the fuck he was doing. He was trying to hang out. That's it. That's all I think.

The Biebs right there. So Diddy, that picture up there on the left with Paris, me and Kim and Diddy, they were like, yeah, they're at one of Diddy's white parties. That wasn't even Diddy, they were like, yeah, they're at one of Diddy's white parties. That wasn't even Diddy's white party. We're in San Tropez at the Bibloz Hotel like in the pool, like or something.

We were just at a white party and it was mad people there. You know, and he was just hanging out. Everybody dresses like that in San Tropez. Look to the left a little bit. No, the left. Left picture, yeah. Oh, who's that? Was that Kanye right there?

That's your best friend right there. Oh, my boy, man. Gotcha. To DMX, did you ever, did you and DMX do anything or no? Yeah, we did. We shared. He was one of my favorites. I mean, I can.

He was one of my closest friends. God rest his soul. Earl. I tried, I can't. He was one of my closest friends. God rest his soul. Earl. I tried to save his life. It was like the blind leading the blind now. Like he was on crack and I'm on cocaine. Different things. One of them was a faster suicide. But there was a point, I'm going to tell you two DMX stories, or three actually. DMX, I got him out of having to like go to prison and I told him to go to a rehab center

and like it's called Recovery First, right across the street from the Hard Rock. He goes, I get him in, said shit, it was court ordered, and calls me like three days later, he's like, yo Scott, I'm at the Hard Rock, I had to fuck the nurse. I'm like, what the fuck, bro? I was like, they're not gonna take you back, this is not like G&G, Holistic or some shit.

And he's like, aw man, what the fuck? I call the guy, the owner, and I'm like, yo, can you please let him out? Nope. Three days later, I had him come back to my house, And he's like, oh man, what the fuck I call the guy the owner and I'm like, yo, can you please let him back? Nope Three days later. I had him come back to my house three days later. I went to Mondrian. My security calls me and says Ex has 50 federal agents surrounding your house right now They're handcuffing him and he's smoking crack while they're handing and handcuffing him like with the handcuffs on getting his last hit and shit some crazy shit, so

Before that I remember him staying at my house one of the funniest stories is I had this fucking party everybody was there from snoop this one that one and At like 7 30 in the morning the parties fizzled out. It's like Mike Epps Me like yes snoop a couple other people were chilling in my house in Palm. I get a knock at the door and it was Pamela Anderson. Legendary. And I was like, wow, this is cool. Even though that was actually one of my friend, Rick Solomon's wife, whatever, but I never met her.

I thought it was like so cool. It was like 07, 08, whatever. And it was like a, I think it was like so cool. Like, it was like 07, 08, whatever. And it was like a, I think it was like a Super Bowl party I had. It was just like 600 people or something in the party. And make a long story short, I was so geeked out of my mind. Like X was upstairs in one of the bedrooms

and I was like, yo X, yo X, yo, you gotta see this. He comes out and he looks over to the banister and he says, Baywatch. And he just walked back in. Said one word, Baywatch. Baywatch. And just walked away. But last one is the saddest story that I have with X. He and I made some great, we did a video at my Indian Creek, by the way, it's called Give Them What They Want,

at my Indian Creek property. We did a video, it was pretty cool. But that is not the story, the story is this. You'll be able to see that as my brother after I tell you this story and watch that video. But hold up. Steve LaBelle, my manager, one of my most recent managers. We working. We working.

We working. Very cool guy. He and I owned a rehab center together in LA. Studio City is called the Heavenly Center, THC. Get out of here. Yeah. And we were like, it was very difficult to be like um able to get like insurance companies to cover the shit because of the weed thing and this and that whatever so we kind of like dumbed it

down we like we we are weed tolerant we're not supplying the weed you know that type of thing whatever california sober whatever it is x is now on his last legs with infecema and he's one hit of crack away from dying. So we put up the bread, this guy Frank said, me and Steve, we put him on a private jet to Washington to detox. He goes, we convinced him to do it. He goes through the whole detox program, and he's supposed to get on the runway and go back on that same plane and go inpatient at the Heavenly Center. He never got on that plane, and a few weeks later he was dead.

Wow. I really tried to save his life. I really love that guy. I had his whole family staying at my house. It was kind of fucked up though. Mind you, I'm a cocaine addict at the time. And he was in there trying to use my coke to make cracklers and shit. It was just fucking nuts.

I don't give a fuck. I don't know if I look like a maniac by telling these stories. It's the truth. It was like the blind leading the blind. Can you imagine like Like man, you really need to get your shit together Yeah, you gotta clean that thing up yeah, man, you know, you gotta stop get rid of that shit

What was he like off camera? I mean everyone says that if there's one performer that just has the grit the grind the hustle the flow like he was that He was the fucking man's fucking Debuted platinum ten times in a row. Yeah, I'm right. He was shitting on the game. Did you ever see that fucking one? We forget what festival was it was like it's massive. It was like Lollapalooza in Chicago, bro, like This dude was a beast. He was like, he was really everything that those records were exuding was him.

When you hear that dun dun dun dun. Yeah, it never gets old. It's one of those. By the way, did you see Wolfsmith's latest song? They called it the worst song. Have you heard about it? No, I haven't. Okay, Wolfsmith came out with a song.

They just went after him, talking about, Fat Joe had a hoopist guy that was with Fat Joe Wilson came out with a song they just went after him talking about Fadjo Had a who was the guy that was with Fadjo back in the days? Big pun not big it was with big pun You know he had this song this one's dedicated to the ones who never made it I hate it the fact you faded away you were the greatest who is that no, it's not pun. It's the other guy It's Tony sunshine. No keep going you'll say it's It's not Pond, it's the other guy. It's...

Tony Sunshine? No, keep going. You'll say it's... Niagara Boy Rob. I say this prayer to never respect you but to... Part of the Terror Squad? Oh my God, what is this guy's name? It's such a great thing.

Not Norrie. I'll figure it out who it is. Tony Sunshine, Kuba Link. Someone's going to watch this and they're going to comment below. We'll find out who it is. Did you ever do anything with Fat Joe? What? I made some of the biggest records for fat Joe possible. I did lean back. Yeah, I did make it rain I Did like a lot of shit. Yeah, I mean like Joe Joe

Changed the face of my career too because I was not putting a tag on my records. I was not like career too because I was not putting a tag on my records. I was not like produced by Scott Storch, or shit like that, but I'm doing every fucking song in the world and like Leanback comes and he's like, Scott Storch, bro. Cheese lines outside my door. That's what he said in the video. Cheese lines outside a door, yeah.

That's what he said, so you guys were close. You guys, yeah. Lines outside a door. Yeah, that's what he said. So you guys were close you guys. Yeah Where do you put him? What do you put him on the list? He's dope it's kind of like Unfair that he's not looked at like as even bigger than he is I mean people respect him but like being a Latino Latino rapper at some point Like it was like a handicapped in itself Like it didn't matter how fucking dope you were

because motherfuckers were just like, there's a lot of fucking weird things about the music business. So Fat Joe, I don't know your relationship with him these days, but there's a lot of hip hop beef. Obviously it started with Tupac and Biggie and everything and then Nas, Jay-Z.

He's a big personality now. When you have an a personality now and like when you have an opinion sometimes people like Well 50 cent I think him and him who does he have beef with this 50 cent? He used to all his fires have been put out really it was hove Yeah, and 50 now he's cool with all of them. What's your take on just hip-hop beef in general? I mean that the biggest beef of the last year was Kendrick and Drake Is this manufactured? is this real? What's your take?

This is the fucking WWF, you know what I'm saying? But, put it this way, there was, I forget who it was, someone was telling me, yo, 50's coming at me on some shit. He's really fucking tearing me up, listen to that. And apparently 50 called you and was like, because no, he called, he got in touch and was like, why are you doing this to me? He's like, I'm trying to throw you a bone, bro.

I'm trying to get you some shine. 50's saying this to you. No, to this person. Oh, gotcha. I do the story I heard, I don't know for sure. That he was dissing somebody and the person that he was dissing called 50, like why are you doing this?

He's like, bro, I'm trying to help you. Any publicity is good publicity. Like, I'm giving you a shot, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's what these beefs, a lot of them are out. Now, these are legitimate beefs, obviously. What do you think is the most legitimate beef? I think, like, Lil Wayne and Birdman had some court stuff going on, suing.

What's the realest beef out there? I mean, yeah, I mean, mean, that's a label artist beef. That's not like rapper to rapper beef, even though the label was a rapper. Burma, that's family, that's like a father and son. I did a song for these two, for Wayne and Burma, called You Ain't Know. I'm actually in the video playing piano.

It was like we were dressed up like gangsters and shit. Cuban Link is who I was talking about. Do you remember Cuban remember Cuba? Oh, yeah, Cuba like that. Oh, yeah, they happy That didn't end right. It was not it wasn't that was a problem But somebody else recently just tried to like fuck with with Joe and take advantage of him Somebody that was like a hype man for him claimed to be like the writer On songs and shit and trying to sue Joe. You said Tommy Watolo earlier. Did you have a relationship with Tommy? Yeah, it's funny. That house that Diddy lives in, I was there to visit Tommy at one point.

First time I met Tommy, Sony Music Studios in New York, I was like a little kid in the roots, didn't know what to find, so I walked into the wrong lounge. And it was him talking to some Asian guys that probably owned Sony or whatever. He gave me the dirtiest look, like he was about to fucking bite my ear off. I was like, oh shit. Then later down the road,

he invited me to come to that house when he'd first bought it and he was with Talia. This was right after- She's great. She's great. And the same party place at the edge of that property on Star Island that's like a temple, kind of gazebo kind of thing or whatever, it wasn't like that. It was an office outside and it looked

like something that Sosa from fucking Scarface would have. And he's at this sick ass probably $300,000 table with a home phone and like it's like outside this whole office is set up outside and he's like doing his thing out there with a cigar showing me his cards and shit but whatever. Tommy Batone. He made a lot of money. For a lot of people. Yeah, and for himself. Yeah, for sure.

At the hands of Sony. There was like, people made like, I mean, if I'm really gonna talk, motherfuckers like, they found a way to take budgets down these guys like I'm just being real like everybody knows this shit he had a partner Corey Rooney that was producing there's a crazy story I'm glad I mentioned that okay I have to I have to go there if we're on the fucking blacklist today go for it all right right, so yeah, like these guys

They would charge They would get all the shit like they would eat up all the budgets of like the quarterly like Budget that they would get, you know, Sony Columbia this that the other One day I had a house on pine tree drive I made into a studio Miami Beach. Yeah 63rd and pine tree, I had a house on Pine Tree Drive that I made into a studio. Miami Beach. Yeah, 63rd and Pine Tree. I had two studios in there. I had the board from Siren Head Live, the SSL,

or Newton, or Neve, whatever it was. And I get a call from this guy, Kenny Commissar, who's big record executive. And he's like, J-Lo wants to come over. I'm like, amazing, who's big record executive. And he's like, JLo wants to come over. Like, amazing. I want to work with her. Like, cool. Amazing. This is dope. So JLo comes over.

But now it's like damn near a hurricane going on. Power goes out. So I'm like, oh, yeah, I got this new car. It's like the first one in America. I had to fan them. And like, I was like, let's listen to music in my Phantom pouring rain She's loving every fucking thing. I'm playing or she's like that's shit

I remember hand on my leg and like just I was like, oh fuck this Jayla was sitting in my passenger seat Loving my fucking music. I'm a little fucking like Jewish white boy from fucking Sunrise and shit Like what the fuck knob knob hill and shit. At any rate, I could hear a knock on my window. I'm like what the fuck? Kenny's like, Jennifer, we gotta go. I'm like, what do you mean we gotta go? Like what the fuck are you talking about?

You brought her here. No, we gotta go right now. 15 minutes later, I got a call from my bro. I'm so sorry. They told me I was fired if I didn't get her out of there Wanna why? Because there's only so many Songs and the budget on these albums and I was taking away real estate

In that little game that these guys had going on that took Sony out 200 and change million I'm laying some secrets out for y'all today, bro. This is all real talk, but yeah, I was like, man, that's fucked up, bro. I was like so hurt by that shit. That shit was supposed to go to Tommy and Corey. And I was not getting it. Fuck that, Scott's not getting it in her ear.

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Buster Rhymes. One of the only people to check on me. Everybody's like pointing the finger, oh Scott's fucked up now, this and that, da da da da da. He was like, only person who called me and be like, I made money for all these people and they just walked away and said Scott's a piece of shit. He's like, yo bro, you all right?

I wasn't, I was like, yeah, bro, you all right? I wasn't. I was like, yeah, I'll be all right. You know what I mean? Addiction's a motherfucker. Nobody cared, bro. I bought all my homies Bentleys out of love because I wanted them to be like me. And they all disappeared when the party was over. I was like, but that's a gift too, because you get to see who your real friends are.

And those two, three people that were left standing there making sure I was cool, Buster was one of them people that, I mean, we weren't that close close, but he's also my first client when I left The Roots that believed in me. He was my very first client when I left The Roots that believed in me. He was my very first client that hired me. I remember we were going up and down all the labels in New York, took this trip from Philly

to New York and trying to play music for A&Rs. First one to bite was Busta. But yeah, he's the only person that really fucking called him was like, bro, you know Nobody gave shit Out of everybody in industry when you were going through your worst or your worst and you were dealing with the the recovery the only Person that reached out was busted. There was nobody else Joe somewhat. Yeah Joe He never liked I mean I Didn't get the call. I mean I knew he cares you think that's

Because of you and your reputation or is that just the business it's all fake. It's all a facade You ain't really friends if you ain't hot you ain't hot Even I remember did he telling me Like when we were talking about like what's your secret? Did he tell me, like when we were talking about like, what's your secret? And he was like, you know, you have all the success. And he said, I run to the light. And what he meant by that is like, whoever's hot,

he's going up near that shit. Like, whoever's fucking blowing up at the time, you're gonna see that motherfucker. He's like, I run to the light. What a thing to say, I run to the light. Is that right after he flirted with you or that's a different situation? It's like, I run to the light. What a thing to say, I run to the light. Is that right after he floated with you or that's a different situation? It's like, I run to the light.

Interesting. Trying to see what he's talking about. So it just means, light skin? You know what's crazy? That dude's ears are golden. He's got golden ears, man. I know people like, would use his ears and to see if some shit was legit

or see if that was the single to help pick the one out of the bunch that's the one. They would use Diddy for that shit. Jimmy Iovine, all the biggest. They'd be like, yo, what do you think of this? He knew. He knew. It wasn't accidental that he rose to the top.

No. He had an ear for it. Yeah. Was he hands on as a producer? No. That wasn't his thing. You ever seen the video cal video you ever seen a video when? He's on a call and he gets what he wants and he says I get everything I've ever seen that video

Of course, is that pretty much? describe him I don't know. It's looked like too much coffee This one right here, you know what it reminds me of pause it what was the yeah, yeah Yeah, you know what it reminds me of pause it. What was the yeah. Yeah, what's the end of? Yeah, I know Tropic Thunder's what I'm thinking. No, I don't know. She's in The movie like that Sid Caesar and he won the fucking I win. I'm gonna win the money, you know You know I'm talking about yeah, but Chevy Chase. Go ahead Rob

The weekend of 14 when the soundtrack comes out Go ahead Rob. I've been there for like the weekend of the 14th when the soundtrack comes out. It's so bump somebody. All right, thanks. All right, love you man. Bye. I got my MTV app. Savage!

I'm a savage! Oh! I'm a savage! Whatever I want to get, whatever I want I have to get! It's like steroids. What's next? Watch this. Yes.

What's next? What's next? I gotta get it. I'm not gonna stay fucking down. I'm not gonna stay fucking lying down. I can't do it, man. I can't do that. What's next?

Give me something else. What can't you do? I can do it. I can do do that. What's next? Give me something else. What can't you do? I can do it. I can do anything. Wow. Yeah, stop, stop. The power of suggestion. So he ran to the light.

Yeah, power of auto suggestion. Dude, there's dudes that like, I'm not saying any names, that just are able to capture your attention by screaming and like really not being part of the creative process of the music and just like selling you on that shit. Do you ever do anything with what is that one guy's name who Connie had issues with and he ended up I think he's the head of YouTube right now What is the guys name Rick Rubin not Rick Rubin? No, no, you are Cohen. Yeah, Leo Lior the man shit Lior started like

He's only founders of Def Jam. Yeah him and Russell so what made him special was he a boss boss was he a Was he a numbers guy? Was he a boss boss was he a was he a numbers guy was he a negotiation guy? He was a smart guy business. He was a tough guy, but like you know he would think outside the box and You know they figured out a formula how to sell record. Did you spend some time with him? He's the bar on my boat used to come over and bring me Joe Stonecraft of Indian Creek Island That's it's got to you. Let me borrow your boat. No problem anytime captains there you're bold, no problem, anytime. Captain's there.

He's a cool guy. Good dude. Yeah. He was beefed. He's got some interesting nicknames. The other guy had nicknames. This guy's got it as well. Culture Vulture, I don't know what they call him.

It was a weird lawsuit, I'm trying to remember. Yeah. TVT, Steve Gottlieb, and it was like a big lawsuit. Yeah, TV teams. Yeah godly and it was like a big loss. Yeah, it was 130 million rule cash money click initial defender was ordered to pay 132 million ounce in compensatory upon punitive damages with 56 million Do personally from Cohen unappealed that figure was substantially reduced Yeah, I heard some story about him dancing on his desk after like something with that lawsuit like winning or something.

Okay, so he's got a little bit of Diddy in him. Is that what it is? See if he dances. You want to think about what that guy is? It's like the Beastie Boys and shit like that. Early fucking like cutting edge people. Was was that tribe called quest was a deal They were like hip-hop like mainstream shit before these kind of guys. There was also Joe and Phil Nicolo rough house records They had Cypress Hill Chris cross

Make it jump jump So Scott these days. I mean you you've you said famously that the coach I mean you you've you said famously that the coach Last longer than the players. That's actually a Steve LaBelle. We work we work it original But I've adopted it. I've adopted it, you know, there's snoop still relevant Jay-z still relevant new who you know, there's hot guys these days, you know, obviously Drake's I would what those snoop is famous relevant as active. I don't know if I would- I don't know, meaning he's still around. Listen, these people have made such an amazing amount of music of such high quality.

And some of the beats, you'll notice Snoop picks the greatest fucking beats, man. He's like, but like, he don't have to do jack shit. There's a lot of fly. Like me personally, if anybody's always watching and all that other stuff, I don't have to do another beat for the rest of my life I've still done more than everybody else. They'll never catch up You know what I'm saying?

like it doesn't matter and my like name and my legacy is like even though I don't like to rest on my laurels and I'm Still making shit because the passion is still there. I lost it for a while It was back. And my son doing music, like yeah, I'll still do it. But quietly, I'm making some fucking fire shit. What do you think about music these days? Like who do you think is gonna last a test of time? So is it amigos?

Is it Travis Scott? Is it who? Who do you actually respect? There's people that are more artistic than others. Amigos is it Travis Scott is it Baby little baby, who do you got out there? One of my favorite people is this guy named Russ? Oh I made a lot of season. I didn't like you on him. He doesn't depend on the radio He doesn't care what anybody thinks about him. He feels of renas Mm-hmm all day long. What anybody thinks about him. He fills arenas all day long. What's special about him? He believes in what he's saying and he like,

I can tell you something, it's just so organic. I remember having a conversation with him about going on the road and some of these amazing places that he would get to travel to in Europe, fucking amazing places. And he's like, I'm not gonna bring some broad with me. I'm gonna bring my mom. And he would bring his mom to these great places

and he was so excited to give back to her. Good for him. Good for him. He's as real as he gets, man. He must have had a great mom. They hate him. So many people in in like you know these like whatever like they just there's a lot of people he gets haters

his jealousy and hate. What do they hate him for? I don't know but having an opinion that actually he stands behind when that makes sense I don't know. Who else would you put in that category these days? Very few very few you don't seem to Thrilled with the with the current state of hip-hop is I'm gonna take it a step further. Okay, go. We got, was now, we have when I was, and then before me, I listened to some of this shit before me,

like that was like, you know, Earth, Wind & Fire, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Al Green, you know. Like, Seth Quinn, Harlan O, just some of these amazing, man, I didn't do nothing good. Like, my shit is all right. Like, this shit is wack. Shit is horrible right now. Honestly, it's horrible. It's just some of these amazing, man, I didn't do nothing good. Like my shit is all right. Like this shit is whacked. Shit is horrible right now.

Honestly, it's horrible. It's trash. I still feel like I didn't, like, I made some pretty impressive shit, I think, but it still is nothing compared to the amount of integrity that went into like some of the shit before me. Now, every generation says that the generation before that, they don't get it, they don't get the times.

Is it a generation thing or is it just straight up, listen to my ears, it ain't it? You ever see the movie Idiocracy? That's it. People are dumb. They have gotten, so because it's so easy to become a music producer, anybody can go to the guitar center now and it's so cheap. Before we had to have reel to reel tape recorders that were like $200 a tape to store two songs.

Now you can store a thousand songs on a little disc that cost you 40 bucks. You know what I mean? Like so anybody can do it. Everybody has a voice. Anybody can be seen. So the quality just got lower and lower and the bar was set lower and lower and lower and lower You'll find some guys that are like sort of good like some you know The artists the better ones like you know, the Travis Scott's the trippy reds, you know this and that but

Scott you ever met Trump I did I just had lunch with him. How was that? He's awesome. Awesome. Trump's a cool guy. I think very misunderstood guy. Yeah, everybody's like, nobody's perfect, you know, take your poison. But I think he definitely has a plan. And like, even though it looks like he's doing like causing riots and shit like that. There is like

the better good of our country, you know what I mean like Nobody think it's bittersweet, you know, I mean ultimately he's protecting us ones like you think about You know poor families that people are getting like deported and shit like that. That's the fucked-up part but sometimes in order to do something their sacrifices that have to take place in order to the overall goal which is to protect us and You know This is I mean in politics I it's not my forte, so I can't really articulate as much. But I just am saying based on what I see, I think he's actually driven to protect our

country. I agree. I'm sorry. Do you think behind the scenes, other musicians, and you were in a room with all these guys, if you did a poll of 100 of the guys you worked with, you think they're pro Trump, you think they're still Democrat Party, where would you think all the musicians obviously we know Beyonce and Jay-Z stand? I saw this guy on Instagram, it's got Patrick Medd-David.

And he was at Mar-a-Lago and he was like, yo, all these naysayers and fucking people that just were shitting on Trump, they're sucking his dick right now because he's the president again basically is what you were saying in other words yeah very similar I don't think paraphrase run to the white run to the light so that's what everybody's doing running to the light of Trump I guess I don't know man All I know is he's doing a fucking better job than fucking sleepy Joe That guy like I feel like all this fucked up shit happened and the first time Trump got in office Like here's some coronavirus deal with that shit like you know what I mean like that's not

He weathered the story went through that shit, but like yeah, that wasn't easy for somebody ever meet book Clinton No Never met bill Obama So weird like I didn't meet Obama But I was called when he was running for office To like you know they were looking for cool people to like be part of his campaign and like they wanted to pick me up And go hit me go in a limo with him to some Club or something and I saw Nobody knew who he was. I didn't know if he was white black or anything. I didn't know there's a Obama was you know, yeah

I'm fucked up. I'm doing an egg balls. There's way But I don't know if he did that much as a president here like I don't really know how much cocaine as a president No, I don't know. I did not know that much as a president here. Like I don't really know much cocaine as a president. No, I don't Know that much Or something like that, but yeah, I don't want to start any rumors Scott is not saying anything about the eight ball with the president No, that's two separate. No, no, no, no, I was saying I don't know how much he did as a president But like I do know that um, I Guess like I just feel like Trump is the Her saving grace right now

And I don't think that like a lot of these things would have happened like a lot of problems would have happened if he was in office last He would be he would be one hell of a rapper if you think about it. The amount of shit talking he can do and how it's cow-queak. I can imagine if somebody just pulled up to Trump and let's just say he goes on a podcast that's all about hip-hop and they say, could you freestyle? I can only imagine if all of a sudden he drops. He drops the shit.

It's called the weave. I started here. And you're in the back thing thing and it's like, yeah, you know. Well there's one thing for sure. He's been mentioned in more rap songs than any president. Maybe any celebrity of all time. Any president? Yeah, probably.

No, probably. Probably, probably. Scott, just out of curiosity. I mean Where you're at? What do you have if you have to choose between Biggie and Tupac? What's your opinion on that? Are you more different things? Amazing. Oh my it sounds like not feel like I'm on drink champs because that's what they do Like it's like if you have to pick one and if you can't you have to get a shot One poet one's a storyteller Here's a better question to ask. Which one have you played or listened to the most?

Biggie's music or more Tupac? Which have you listened to the most? Both, equally. No, you can't say that. I have though. That's not true though. I made a record for Tupac though. I remixed one of his songs, yeah.

Oh, you're talking about the... Why'd you sling crack? Cause I had to look Tupac got better and better at time. But I like Biggie's career was so short It's hard to like yeah spring is here and you can now get almost anything you need delivered with ubereats What do we mean by almost you can't get a well-groomed lawn delivered, but you can get chicken parmesan delivered sunshine No, some wine. Yes get almost almost anything delivered with new breeds order now alcohol

and select markets the app for details I Dated little Kim to so I guess me and him were like asking my brothers Did oh you didn't I did really yeah, like what he was awesome Little Kim to me used to be a little too much surgery. Yeah All let me get carried away with that But little Kim at one point was bad. Yeah, so you had big Kim Kim Kardashian you had a little Kim You had Paris Bro, pardon Kardashian, you had Lil Kim, you had Paris. Bro, pardon my language, but I fucked everybody.

Literally, I didn't leave nothing. Nothing to chance. Out of all the girls you've been with, if you could have put a ring on one of them, who did you actually love? What a question. Adam's in a very loving space. Scott knows. I'm gonna tell you this. I was married one time

for one day in Vegas because I was fucked up and like I don't know. You pulled the Britney Spears is that what you're saying? For some reason to me I've had relationships, long relationships. But who was the one that got away? Who did you actually love? Who would you actually like? Someone that we would know. You're like, I'll tell you what, so and so and so, if I could have, would have, should have. Who would have that would have been Scott? Walk us down memory lane. You've been with them all. Come on. I don't know. Get in your feelings right now. Maybe we'll play a little Mario. You should let me love

you. Who is it? I always was going out with people for the wrong reason. Like for me it was like I like get involved with a girl because she had a great ass and it's not deep enough to fucking have like the intimacy and the love that's going to stand the test of time. For some people that's spiritual that's you know it's a... Look I'm not the fucking I can't say I made all the right decisions in my life. I know how to make music, I can't tie my shoelaces. You know what I'm saying?

Like, at a certain age in my prime, I decided I liked to shit this thing called drug sex. Like when you're doing fucking drugs, you're getting fucked up and you're fucking and like, that's not what love is, you know what I mean? But like, you get caught in your ways. What's the old expression? Like, you can't teach an old trick new dogs. So, but that, you can make beautiful music,

but you can't tie your shoelaces. Like the other night we had dinner. This guy- I know people that are so smart but have no common sense. This guy, let me tell you, PBD, he has a napkin right here. Right here. Napkin at dinner. At what we have at Mar-a-Ranos. I looked at him, he went like this. I'm like, Scott, use your napkin. But is it something about the way you're wired? Just like, I don't give a fuck. What did you have at Mar-a-Rano? Did you have the just like, I don't give a fuck.

What did you have at Mar-a-rano? Did you have the Philly cheesesteaks? Of course. The Philly cheesesteaks, everything, incredible. See the challenge with Mar-a-rano is, when they turn on the music, I can't talk to you. You gotta go early. You gotta go early.

We went early that one night. You gotta go early. If you're in the mood for that, like a lot of people, they're not going to the clubs. They want to get that club feel. I go to restaurants for three reasons. I go for three reasons. I go for company, I go for service, I go for great food.

I'm not going for music. So that's the three reasons. If I wanna listen to music, I'm going to a different place. But it's a party. It is a freaking happening spot. Folks, if you're listening to this, everybody this everybody knows I'm team Casa di Angelo It's very simple. That's where I go in the last seven days. I was there five times in the last seven days I tell you something. Yeah, there's another one another sleeping time at the nine five the the one the

number place that everybody Toria Romano Of course in Boca Yeah, right course, and Boca. I ate there recently. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right off of Palm Meadows. Yeah, we've been there. I used to go there all the time. You got that? Palm Meadows, right across the street from Los Angeles.

Runway 84 is pretty fucking good. That's the place you would go to lunch every day. Yeah, I used to go there a lot. Prime Italian's not a fucking bad. Yeah. They got the cheesecake too. Well, okay, so last thing before we wrap up, what's next for you?

What's next for you? Well, let me see, I'm thinking about this. So last thing before we wrap up what's next for you? What's next for you? Well? Let me see I'm thinking about this Be sure I say the right things You can announce like you and Kim are back together Which one yeah, I'm just saying Kim K because he seemed pretty sentimental about that All right No, no, no, no. Let me see something. Alright. So like, you know, I've done so much music making in my life

that, you know, sometimes I want to continue that, but I want to do something different. I want to like, you know, try something new. Like I feel like, even like when I was making music, I would try different kinds of music because when you're not so formulaic in your delivery, because you've done it so many times, you're learning along the way and that's where some of the most accidental genius things

that you make happen that are hybrids of other things. But now, I think I have a lot to say and I have the ability to captivate people. So I wanna do a television show, like a variety show with a podcast, with that whole kind of thing. I wanna do something that's different, live entertainment, comedians, this, that,

even a little sketch comedy involved, something really dope, you know something different What do you live that people wouldn't expect from me? You're still in Miami. Yeah All right, that's cool Something amazing like I have a pretty big reach and like I think I can bring the right people in and like I Don't know like have fun moments that are very spontaneous and very like, you know, just like unexpected from me.

And a lot of people don't know who I am. They don't know there's a humorous, funny, humble guy that's just done a lot of shit, fucked everybody, had everything and lost it not embarrassed to it No, I'm very like I Don't really care if you can't take a fuck joking. You can't take a joke fucking Almost feel like this was a blast of a podcast we talked about a lot of different things I learned Your favorite person in the world today's Kanye. I learned you miss Kim

I learned you did business with a lot of different people But if there's one thing I can tell you I have a feeling I'm curious what dinner is gonna be like with cameras off Huh and and no mic. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I don't know if that makes sense By the way, I have, not to cut you off, I have a song that I did like three years ago with my boy Ryan who's such a cool guy. He's an inventor, he's a lab guy, he's like, you know, doing some incredible stuff

and his, Theranos, his company, and we made a song, he made a movie about like, blood testing and things and like corruption in that world and like all kinds of shit, but like I did the theme song for the thing, it's pretty mean, where I kind of like interpolated the karate kid, you know what I'm saying? That type of shit, like.

That's what I'm saying, yeah. What a song, are you kidding me? But we switched, the song has evolved into different things. By the way, before we wrap up, what are you doing with Grand Theft Auto right now? Aren't you in the game? I'm not allowed to talk to NDA. Oh, okay, gotcha. All right.

But to be, something's coming. I was already there. I was already in it. They put me, Dre, and Jimmy in an online version of it. Okay. Yeah, he is in it. Who knows? That's right.

I've seen it. Yeah, yeah, okay, so maybe there's something Anyways all I know is that game is gonna be the shit That's it big fucking they are have they've been delayed it and people are pissed and they're creating an exhibition But they're looking forward to it my man. This was a blast. How's it going brother much love? Take care everybody. God bless bye. Bye. Bye Much love, take care everybody. God bless, bye bye, bye bye. Hey, what's going on? I'm Scott Storch and you might have seen me

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