PBD Podcast - Illinois Congressional Candidate - Catalina Lauf | PBD Podcast | Ep. 158

Episode Date: May 27, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by 29-year-old Congressional candidate for the 11th district of Illinois Catalina Lauf and host of the Soscast Adam Sosnick. TOPICS 0:00 - Start  6:27 - Catalina Lauf SLAMS Alexandria Ocasio Cortes   9:50 - Are teachers grooming kids?  21:26 - Should counselors tell parents about a 'confused' child?   37:50 - Are teachers underpaid?  47:02 - Reacting to Texas School Shooting  1:07:30 - Bad guys will always have guns  1:22:22 - Should firearm owners go through more training?   1:31:15 - Should the government be pushing social media to monitor potential threats?   1:46:32 - Are we headed towards stagflation?  1:56:51 - Should you leave your job for a raise? Support Catalina's campaign: https://bit.ly/3LQAgkB Follow Catalina on Instagram: https://bit.ly/38KrV4B Follow Catalina on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3apUjcH Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list About:  Catalina Lauf is a 29-year-old Congressional candidate for the 11th district of Illinois. She was born in Illinois and grew up in Woodstock as the daughter of a Guatemalan immigrant mother and a Chicago-born business-owner and entrepreneur father. About Co-Host: Adam “Sos” Sosnick has lived true rags to riches story. He hasn’t always been an authority on money. Connect with him on his weekly SOSCAST here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw4s_zB_R7I0VW88nOW4PJkyREjT7rJic Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.   To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail] --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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I'm sorry. Are you out of your mind? Here's the debate. You're upset. They're saying we believe. Okay, sounds good. Well, I think we are live. Yes, no, maybe we're live episode number one 58 we haven't done a podcast for a minute. we were in Las Vegas and LA the last couple days We had a chance to see the gas prices in LA Yeah, it was about that today. It seems like a lot of stuff has happened that

We want to talk about specifically the shooting the tragic event that took place in Yvaldi San Antonio, which I've been to I went to an event over their drive tanks. There's a very Interesting place. We'll talk about that. Of course. And then Hillary Clinton, you know, some comments by Ray Dalio about the markets, business, guns, gun law, obviously a lot of people are chiming in

on what's going on with the issue. That seems to be the topic of discussion. We got a couple of things that I saw with Henry Kissinger in regards to Ukraine and Russia that kind of threw some people off. And then we have the lovely Catalina Lauff here with us, the former advisor at the US Department of Commerce. She's known as anti-AOC.

She ran in 11th congressional district in Illinois. It's great to have you on the podcast. Thank you so much for having me. And you're sure if you can tell everybody good. yes, freedom over fear. That's our campaign slogan. I love it. Freedom over fear. And then we have our Tom Ellsworth here. Tom does not have a fancy shirt. He's just wearing his regular. Is that a Brooks shirt or what kind of whatever kind of a shirt it is? Of course. To that shirt. That's great. It's awesome. We'll take it. We'll take it. Okay. So that was the compliment I assume. a dad shirt for Tom. Yeah, absolutely

He's got a dad shirt. He's got dad jokes. He's clearly got a dad bod He's got a dad haircut. He's doing his thing across the line right there You know, he's a high and a high and a high and a high and a high and a high You you just offended a few people by the by saying that Kim is probably gonna send a message to you And you're gonna get blocked on Instagram. But Kim's great. All right So folks before we get into it I want to go straight into topics, but before we get straight into topics I do want to have Catalina if you don't mind take a quick moment and share with the audience your background

How you got this reputation this name of anti-AOC your run it cuz you're young you're coming up your vocal your smart You have strong opinions. Thank you. Tell the audience about your background. Yeah. So running an Illinois 11th district, it is in the Northern Illinois suburbs. It's a very, I grew up in a small town. And what we Illinois and get so frustrated with is that we get drowned out by Cook County

and the Chicago Democrats, wherein reality reality a lot of Illinois is actually pretty Republican. And so I'm running for Congress. Look, I've seen over the years that our districts are being flipped every single cycle. And they're recruiting the left, is recruiting these far left young female voices like AOC and the squad. They're being heavily funded. A lot of them are just puppets

and they're flipping hard Republican seats. And that's what happened in my home district a few years ago. My mom came here legally from Guatemala, Central America. She grew up in poverty. My grandmother picked coffee beans. My dad is a small business owner. And, you know, I was born and raised

with this unapologetic love for the country to support small business owner, and I was born and raised with this unapologetic love for the country to support small business, to support our flag, support our military, back the blue. These very American principles, free market economics, that I now see completely under attack. The American dream that made my life possible, that made my family's life possible when they came here is under attack.

And we need strong voices, we need fighters, we need everyday Americans, everyday people to step up now and push back the far left because they're winning the war right now both culturally and economically. But by the way, were you always, did you always have these beliefs or did you ever question them and you said, well, I don't know, these guys all they care about is money, these guys, you know, they're too much about this, they're too much about that, or was it always a thing?

Were you always a conservative? I was always a conservative. And is that because mom, dad, the upbringing, or... Both. I think part of it is the upbringing, working the small business. My dad taught me business at a young age, but also I was able to go to these countries, I was able to go to Central America and see what oppression and poverty looks like and what happens when there aren't economic opportunities. That was drilled into my head from a young age.

And to look at a country where we have all the possibilities, endless possibilities here in America and to preserve that is so important. I also grew up with stories of World War II veterans and people who, there's a real cost of freedom and history that our country stands for that is being lost in this generation. And so that upbringing, also just seeing what things have been changing over from a culturally perspective,

have actually made me more conservative and more strong in my values and my ideology. So your parents both are conservative? Yes. And who were you in high school? If we were in high school to get a tenth grade, eleventh grade, who were you? Oh my god. Were you the athlete? Were you the grades? Were you the 4.5 GPA? Oh my god, no. I basically got kicked out of school. I was the the the rebel. Oh my God, no, I basically got kicked out of school. I was the rebel. Yeah. Really, in high school.

Yes, I was homeschooled actually, because I was just so sick of education system. And I was self taught and went to college at 15. And was it Miami? You went to Miami International Ohio or something like that? Yes, so I graduated high school. I did a dual star program where I was able to test into the community college, did my first two-year gen eds there, and then was able to transfer at a really young age to Miami

of Ohio, and then was able to only do two and a half years there, got my degree right away, and then left. Got it. Okay, cool. And then last but not least, so AOC, you know, she, you know, whatever we say about AOC politically, which, you know, we may or may not agree with socialism, you know, how she capitalizes of all the opportunities, she's been able to get her message out there to hundreds of millions of people at this point. The entire country knows who she is. She's

God God knows how many followers on Twitter, 10, 15 million followers on Twitter. What do you think she's doing that's resonating? Because May 11th, you just had a birthday. Happy birthday to you, two weeks. We had a birthday. But yeah, see you in a mile. Okay, so you put May 11th here.

So it says May 5th. So make sure you just see you in a mile. Yeah, I don't know what to do. I'm not a member of this. I'll respect for her. So, 29 years old, your age starts with the number. I'll love that. So, fire works, baby. 29 years old, your age starts with the number two. We skip your, Tyler, you're how old?

Just so we know. 34. 27. No. 27 years old. Okay, and then 34. 34. There's a spike.

There's no three here, then it's four and five in the room. So for the 20 year olds, yourself, what makes you think an AOC is getting the kind of connection with a younger audience where they're saying she makes a lot of sense. Why is she having so much momentum? That's a great question. Number one, she's being helped out by these social media companies. I would love to see how many of her actual followers are real. Let's just put that out there because they are being heavily promoted more than conservative

voices, which is why we need counter voices to them. But I think, look, she's relatable. She does these little videos. She was one of the first millennials that had a strong voice in Congress. Everybody knew about her. She was put on this pedestal and she was heavily marketed by the powers that be in her party. People believed in her. And even if she disrupted her

establishment to candidate, she was still heavily backed and funded by people who propped her up. And so she's able to penetrate in all these different areas, whether it's Twitch or social media, and all of that, to try to be relatable. Now, everything that she says, 90% of it, does not make sense, but we live, especially millennials, living this kind of sound bite culture,

where they take this emotion-based, little 15-second things that she says, and then they go and run with it as we see with these culture wars, and then that's why she's so effective. But she's actually destroying her party at the advantage to conservatives because people are now coming war on our side

because she's controlling the Democrats today. She controls the narrative because she's able to raise money on her own because of her big platform and she has the voice to do it. Do you think she's dumb? Yes. You think she's dumb? I do. Really?

I think she's dumb. No, okay, I'll say this. She's smart because she's smart at manipulating. I think anybody like that is deceptive. That is deceptive. Okay. In terms of raw intelligence, I would say this she's smart because she's smart at manipulating. I think anybody like that is deceptive. Okay, in terms of raw intelligence I would say some of her things that she says about the economy and things just don't make sense so from that perspective No, so economically and her degree is in what isn't her degree in economics? Yeah, isn't it isn't an economic So yeah, some of the stuff she talks about, it just makes you wonder like who? Who the teachers are today? I'd love to go to college. I'd love to go to one of these UC Berkeley economic classes just to sit there as a student

Just to sit there and be like go semester through like a project You know what I'm saying like you recorded and you wonder what these professors are telling these kids that are going to college about Economy what are they saying about the rich man, about the capitalist, about the business owner? What kind of comment are because they're shaping the mindset of these kids? Did you watch Bill Mars message he gave? I think you send it to me. Yes, sir.

You send it to me. And the premise behind it was what? He was asking, he said, he said, you know, we're looking at statistics about the LGBTQ community. Tom, have you seen this or no? I have recently known. Have you seen that? I don't know.

Okay, the first premise is... Everybody's got to watch it. Go ahead. No, essentially, the premise is America's getting gayer and gayer. So, he shows statistics about seven months ago we had Gatsawd on, right? Who, I think, is coming back on the podcast. He's coming back here. Yeah. So, we had had him on and in the middle

of the podcast, I asked him a question. I said, do you think the media is increasing the media on TV shows? Do they have any influence over increasing the LGBTQ community in America? He says, I don't think it has any influence. So while we're talking, I'm googling to see the increase in population of, you know, gays and lesbians. And you see how 30 years ago it's 1% and it's increased to 5%. But then Bill Marwen full blown on this video, I wish we could play it where he says it started off with this many percent, then it went to 5%, then it went to this.

And it says Gen Z, 50% of Gen Z or some big number right? 20% 20% basically yeah sees themselves as part of the LGBTQ community and it says at this pace folks in the next 10-20 years we're all gonna be gay right that's pretty much what Bill Mar was talking about but here's the point here's a point That right there the statistic with what Bill Mark talked about, gets me to think about something. I was in a military. We had people who were gays and lesbians in a military, okay. In high school, you know, we had folks who were part of a LGBT, you know, LG community, and we had some guys like that guys probably, you know, you kind of knew about it, right?

But for it to increase the way it is, that doesn't mean a lot of these people that are becoming lesbians and gays were born lesbians. I wonder how much of it is grooming. I wonder how much of it is recruiting. I wonder how much of it is converting. I wonder how much of it is. I don't have a data in my picture. I don't have a strong father figure. I don't have a strong leader in my house. You know, maybe, you know, like the famous question, which is what? How do you know you're not gay? You're not gonna know unless if you kiss somebody.

How do you know you're not lesbian? You're not gonna say, maybe I am. Maybe I don't, oh my God, I'm not getting more attention that every girls are not interested in me or guys are not interested in me, but she's interested in me and this is kind of cool. So the reason why I brought this up right off the bat is to say you don't see statistics showing the increased percentage of men has increased you know by 40%

in the last 20 years. We don't see stats like that. You don't see the increase in women has increased the last 20, 30, 40 years. Why? Because it's naturally, we don't think about that. Then how, if it's scientific, how is the LGBTQ community keep increasing and we're trusting kids to go to public schools, to be indoctrinated in this mindset. And then you're having people like AOC whose concept is being bought by students because maybe teachers are grooming and shaping their mindset. This is a little bit of recruitment going on. What do you think about this? You're the one that's closer to it.

So happy that you brought this up because this has been coming up a lot in the campaign trail. Two points here. I think number one, when you talk about teachers a long time ago, my mom was a teacher for 30 years, right? Those teachers, even if they were liberal, they didn't push their ideologies to their kids, maybe from an economic, you know, bad man,

rich things like that in the college ages. But particularly for the younger generations, they still wanted the Star Spangled Banner, a lot of their dads had fought in World War II. They were still Americans. Somebody figured out along the way that the culture war, instead of economics, is the culture war is the way to change the hearts and minds and to make kids liberal. I talk to parents every single day on

the campaign trail. I talk to kids every day on the campaign trail. I just spoke with a 13-year-old last week who said that she was confused for an entire year of what her gender was, because in school, her teachers, the millennials, that were these useful idiots, I'll call them, that don't even understand what they're talking about half the time to the kids, these millennial teachers are pushing the pride flags in schools, they have groups that you're allowed to join these LGBTQ whatever groups and and you're not allowed to join any other groups you should prop they encourage people to join these groups that and then it's just so it's surrounded

It's there's constantly surrounded by it and then they get confused and then it's a cool thing for their friends to do and it becomes a fat She was confused for a year because it was in her environment. Yeah, is there straight groups? Is there straight groups that you join? Like, can I go join a straight group? No, that's considered hateful. Now, so, so, you know, like, you know,

because what I see is, here's what I, here's what I, if you're gay, great, fine, no problem. We totally have no issues with that at all. If you follow the podcast, you know my history, but I, you know, I, some, very comfortable with that. But I don't see people on Twitter and their profile saying part of the straight community. You know, you don't see in pro, you, you know, you on someone I'm saying like, you know, it's like the reason that there's BET, right?

Because black people needed a voice whenever that started in the 70s. Now, if you had WET, white entertainment television, now we get a problem. It's just the thing. And I agree with that. I don't think there should be a white entertainment. It's definitely dominated media for ever. But I think that is more part of the division that's happening. That that that feeds into it.

Now, don't get me wrong. I think there's, I'm all about anybody that's very proud to be Mexican, proud to be Guatemala, proud like Ricky's, Michoacan. I love people that are proud of their heritage, proud to be, you know, Middle Eastern, Jewish, whatever you are. I have a lot of respect for that. I like, I think heritage and traditions powerful, but from the standpoint of, because I am this,

I'm more important than you. I need to be heard more than you, and trying to convert the way it's being done today, I'm not with it. That data itself should concern every single parent in America, that data that Bill Maucho, if you've not seen it, That data that Bill Maher showed, if you've not seen it, that data that Bill Maher showed everybody

who's a parent ought to be concerned about that data today. Let me give you two quick points. What happens is people who are marginalized, let's say it's the black community or the gay community or the Jewish community, they start off saying, hey, we need a voice. Like we're getting drowned out here, we're being marginalized,

we're being discriminated against. Like my dad who grew up in Detroit would tell me, when he grew up in Detroit, they'd used to say signs, no blacks, no Jews, no dogs. Okay, straight up, that's what he grew up with in the 50s. All right, so you develop a voice. But then what happens is, once your voice comes, it comes a little bit louder.

Let's say it's the LGBTQ community. Let's say it's the BET community. Let's say it's the BET community. Now you become part of the mainstream. And now the mainstream says, all right, well, I don't know, I'm not LGBT. What just happened here, but because you start off as a small voice and you become part of the mainstream pop culture,

now you're in the ecosystem of pop culture. The second part, because there's someone's probably watching, it's like, what is Catalina and AOC and political divisions have to do with LGBT? And the common thread there is whether it's nature versus nurture. And to the Bill Mars Point is that what essentially is happening is now the debate is over. This is no longer part of nature. It's now being part of nurture, whereas 1% of people, baby boomers were gay,

and then 2% or 4% of Gen X, and then millennials, now it's 5%, Gen Z is now, it's 10%, 20%, it's like, hold on. Clearly an indoctrination is happening, and that's essentially the common thread there. My issue is that it's being pushed by these millennial young teachers at such a young age and parents don't even have a voice sometimes,

but also the fact that it's influencing legislation. If you have 0.01% of the population or the statistic on transgenders, for example, and then now people are forced to have one bathroom or a transgender bathroom. It is influencing legislation on such a mass scale because it's being pushed by the far left so much that that does impact the rest of the country.

Why are these small voices dominating policy? You can't even get policies passed for veteran healthcare that quickly, but you can get transgender bathrooms pushed on a federal level in some cases. That's ridiculous to me. So how do we solve it? So what's the solution? So if you're if you're saying what you're saying, what is a solution?

Parents need to have a voice at the school level. They need to stop this at that level and say teachers, your job is to teach my child math, social studies, gym, whatever, and to take your political culture war opinions out of the classroom. And then parents need to have, need to educate their kids on what's going on in a thoughtful way so that they're not being, it's part of the culture now. So okay, so parents run for school board. Run for school board, but okay, so say you do that. What else is the solution though?

Tom, is there really, so I guess there's a question I'm trying to ask, is there really a solution or is it into deep? Have they already gotten so deep into universities and school systems that to be able to shift this is gonna take a decade or two. And if you do, how do you do it? Well, this is exactly the problem. You know, you have the far left that is influencing the kids

because they want to tell the kids what to think. They do not want the children to be guided culturally by the parents. They feel that they should guide the children culturally and they feel that people call it grooming, people call it whatever you want. That's the issue and she's right, but this is good, this is a decade-long fight because it took a while to get here and people are waking up to it. What happens is, Mark Twain said, the fog comes in on little cat feet.

You don't really hear it, but the fog comes in. And what has happened here over the last 20 years, there has been a steady march toward the schools bringing in content that is increasingly left culture at the public school level. That's where they're driving it. In Dallas, two of the biggest private schools

that you would say they are probably a tick conservative, they're not religious schools, but both of them have what's called the safe room where you can go in and have a discussion about being gay, experimenting, gender confusion, which they don't call a confusion, and they will not tell your parents, will not tell your parents. So your child, like this young woman, this 13-year-old

you were talking about, confused for a year, could be sitting there constantly having these conversations in a safe room, and they don't tell the parents. But what's wrong with that? Especially if you're in high school. Like, let me just make my point, and then I'm gonna flip back to you. Kindergarten elementary school, even middle school, stay the F away from the frickin' kids. You're 16 years old, you're able to drive,

you have a car, you have a driver's license, you're confused about what you got going on, you're already making out with guys, girls, you're already maybe even having sex, I got no problem in high school. No problem, that's me. That's me. Adam said they made no way.

No children. Okay. So what is that? You have no problem with what in high school. No problem. That's me. Adam said they made no way. No children. Come on. You have no problem. You have no problem with what in high school? With 16, 18 year old kids having conversations with guidance counselors. I don't care. Go in your little safe room.

I don't care about that. If you think, how old are your girls? 10 and 16. Okay, so let's move the 10 year old aside to the category of don't f with her, but 16 year old, 17 year old, 18 year old, if you think her and her friends aren't already having these discussions, your naive.

So I'm just letting you know in high school, that's what's already happening. What do you think about that, Tom? I have a fantastic relationship with my 16 year old daughter and we process things all the time. Because that's exactly what she wants to talk to her dad about Yeah, by the way on this scenario, I will tell you in this case it is true. I believe me. I know I thought I'm not even talking about biz duck here. I'll talk about your point is what your point The materials in general. These are conversations that they're already having and Tom you're saying what you're saying to the teacher

You're saying to not have the conversation for for teachers to not have the conversation with students No Absolutely not I don't want a teacher bringing their views on my child Period now if they go in there and say hey, I'm really bothered about something. These kids are cheating. I don't want to be part of it. I don't, they're in my friend group and I don't want to get pulled into that. Those conversations happen all the time at school. All the time. I don't want to get in the middle of this, but I don't want to be a rat. I don't want to be a snitch. Things like this

happen all the time. But the deeper things I mean you know what happened I told you and I go and go in court I know I get it because I don't want that girl to accidentally be exposed um and Bailey came and talked to me about really bad decision that a friend made Really bad decision her parents are very concerned about it. There's a lot of things to go along with it But we processed it like what was she thinking where was she now? Here's a thing Tom to be fair You can afford to put your kids through good private school. Go to public, okay, go to 95% of America,

whatever the percentage is that's got their kids in private public school because of a zip code, they're only making 55,000 of your median income, say household is $100,000. Right, and they're facing, those parents are facing a war. That's what they're facing. Now you know what I'm talking about, by the way. If Tom, who's very well-off,

can send both of his kids to private, and by the way, Tom kids are fantastic. Shout out to Kim. However, that's not the representative of what's going on in America. I taught. I taught in school. I taught second grade.

I taught eighth grade in Miami. I know what 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, like they're already doing stuff. So if you wanna live in a fantasy world that like of course my young daughter's gonna come and talk to me about and process issues, that's great in fantasy land and private school. That's not the reality for most of America.

But I still think even in a public school, a guidance counselor, if you're under the age of 18 and you're having these serious conversations with somebody and opening up, the parents should be involved. And that is, I think, what we're talking about here is that there's a fine line with what the role is of the teacher to an underaged person.

If you wanna make the decisions after you're 18, the love whoever you wanna love, that's fine. I don't think we're talking, from my understanding, we're not talking about that. We're talking about the younger kids who are in school and this is being pushed on by the culture and by their teacher. Totally great.

K through eight, don't even mess with the kids, but at a certain point, like, talk about seniors and high schoolers. Are you saying if a sophomore is confused and go to the guidance counselor saying, hey, Mrs. Johnson, I'm really wondering with all these pronouns, I'm really wondering what I am, I'm really struggling with that.

What do you think I should? I'm having a hard time talking to my mom and dad about it because I know if I talk to my mom and dad about it, they're gonna get really upset. What do you think is the right choice for me to make? Well, number one, any question they have, whether if you could be a straight guy and just be like, look man, like I'm dealing

with some bodily stuff that's happening right now. I don't feel comfortable talking to my mom about my boner. That's just kind of weird. And I'm going to go talk to my guidance counselor. I'm okay with that. Should talk to your guidance counselor about your boner. That's just. I'm just saying, like this is the reality.

We want, if we want to just like sugar code everything and like, we learn a little too much about Adam today. I'm just saying this is what 16 year old. Miss your Jones. Hey, what I like to talk to you about my boner. But go to, but I Adam today. I'm just saying this is what 16 year old dealer. You missed your Jones. Hey, what I like to talk to you about this. But go to, but I'm actually, I'm just, yeah, I'm going to point. I most, if the kid is, what should, here's the question.

Yeah, I'm going to follow it. These aren't just teachers. This is a specific teacher. Let me be more, this is hopefully a guidance counselor who's trained in this. Let me be more specific. So if the 14 year old Adam is concerned about a 14 high school, yes, well 14 I was in high school at 14, nine grade, I was a 14 year

on high school. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I graduated 17 years old in high school, not because of grade but you were also a breastfed two or 18. So, but go to 16 years old, stay at 16 years old, 16 years old, you're 11th grade. You're driving a car all the way. I get you, you go to your years old stay at 16 years old 16 years old your 11th grade you're driving a car I get you you go to your guidance counselor and you say listen my name is Adam and kind of confused right now What do you think I was never confused? But but you go through guidance counselor and you say you're confused What having problems with my girlfriend what shit? No, no, no, no, this is not problems with your girlfriend This is that we're talking him and her and pronouns and things. We're specifically on this topic here.

How should the guidance council handle that? I'm afraid of talking to my dad because he's gonna lose it. He's a traditional Jewish man, or he's a traditional Hispanic, whatever. So I come from a Christian family. What should the guidance council are doing? I'm not gonna pretend that I know the answer

of what the guidance council should say or not say. Here's what I will say though. I'm okay with them having a conversation. like the fact that they're conversing and talking and they're saying I've got questions like that's the guidance counselors job to have guidance I don't disagree I don't think I disagree all I'm asking is what should the approach be from there and because that's the training that's got to come from the top as a parent do you want them to just go right back to the parent? Hey, by the way, little Tim, he had questions about whether he's gay or not. Do you think he should make you aware? Would you want to know that as a parent or no?

If I'm a parent, of course, I would want to know that. So maybe you want me to, it doesn't want to share that. But I call you as a guidance counselor and I say, Hey Adam, I got a question for you. Can I share something with your son? I think you need to know about it, but he, it's very important for you and I to build a relationship together because if you go and automatically tell him what I told you, I think you're going to lose trust and I'm not, he's not going to have a person to go to.

Can I trust that we can build this relationship together, you and I, yes. I think you ought to have a conversation with your son because he's struggling with that that that that. Do you think that conversation should be at or do you think this secret should be between a guidance counselor and the kid? That's a very valid question. I mean, it's like, where do you draw the line? I've never was.

What would you want me to do? Forget, forget what the valid question is. You want to have kids one day. What would you want? If the kid said, if no, no, no. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out on the question.

Hear me out on the question. Don't tell my parents. I don't care what the kid says. Okay. Say the kid says, don't tell my, I don't give a shit if the kid says don't tell my parents. If the kid, your kid comes and tells me to guidance counselor, don't tell my parents, I don't give a shit if the kid says don't tell my parents. If the kid, your kid comes and tells me the guidance counselor, don't tell my parents, okay?

How do you want me? Do you as a parent still want to know or you don't want to know? Obviously if I'm a parent, I would like to know. That's the point. I would like to know. But if the kid specifically says, like for instance, I had an issue with my father growing up, right? He was a very abusive guy.

If I went to my guy, this is totally separate topic, but this is actually a good point to bring you in. But if I said, hey, look, I'm having a problem in my house. My father's very aggressive, very abusive. It's a thing that I'm dealing with. I'm coming to you to talk to you through these issues. As Tom says, to process these issues, would you do me a favor, not tell my dad

that I came to you to tell you about this? If the guidance scholar picked up the phone and called my parents and said, by the way, Adam just came in and he's telling me about this. The right move for him for the guidance counselor to do the other one. But this is what I'm saying. A 16 year old is not a 10 year old.

Wait a minute. It's not a four year old. They have their ability to have issues and we need and the guidance counselor's purpose is to get CPS child protective services involved so that we can protect the nation's youth when you do have a parent out of control. We're talking not about that. You move the argument. I don't think that's intellectually honest.

But Tom, I said this was something I was dealing with. I didn't move the I didn't move the goalpost I said this was something that I don't stick to the him and her that's fine stick to the him and her if a kid goes to this teacher 16 years old guidance counselor saying I'm wondering what I am sexually I don't want to bring it up up to my dad because I think he's gonna lose it can you please help me out with this should that guidance counselor called to that and the mom Can you please help me out with this? Should that guidance counselor called to that end of mom? No, no, really not at 16.

God really, no, and I'm so the so the action is just your so then why even have a guy? Yeah, of course it's my opinion. I just like it's your opinion. I think that's all point. Everyone here has an opinion. So whatever you say is right, but I actually want to do this.

Let me do this and then I'm gonna come to you And I'm gonna hear your thoughts as well. Okay, so explain to me why Again, is it is it because you want your kid to have a Place where they can talk that they're more comfortable than the parents is that why or is it a place to release rather than Hanging on to themselves. Okay, so let's start with the reason that we're going to the guidance counselor. It's because they probably don't feel comfortable bringing it up to their parents.

Let's just start with that. Sure. Like, okay, I have an issue. Hmm, I can talk to my friends about it, but I don't want to be judged. I can talk to my parents about it, but I'm certainly going to get judged for whatever I'm going gonna have to say. It's not exactly the most comfortable conversation

with your mom and dad about sex, okay? I don't care how good you are processing issues. I'm not trying to talk to my mom and dad about bodily sex stuff, facts. So if this is a person who is a qualified, professional, and this is their fricking job. Yeah, I'd feel okay, close and doorkn't saying, hey, can I talk to you about such and such and such?

If God forbid, my kid, for example, if they, I don't have a kid, but in the future, if that led to a mental health problem down the line because they were struggling with this, and they either wanted to take their life or had or struggling with something greater. That guidance counselor should be telling the parents because it can turn into a broader mental health conversation that doesn't that it's the parent's job to be involved with their child. Once you're 18, find whatever. But for that particular case, I also have a big issue.

If these guidance counselors are looking at things objectively and they're actually being professionals and doing their training and talking to these kids, that's a different story. But if there are guidance counselors that are pushing this as well, that's a bigger issue. It's all a cultural problem, I think. If the guy, I mean, look, as look, let's not villainize teachers here.

We're not, we're not trying to. Teachers have the hardest jobs. Your wife's a teacher, bro. They do. My mother was a teacher. I was a teacher. My mom was a teacher. But teachers have a very tough job.

They're overworked and underpaid. They are. And let's not villainize teachers that they're all trying to reverse LGBT all our kids. I'm not Sometimes they need to have crucial conversations. You look at the schools That would tell you otherwise how so Go to a public school in a Democrat leaning state and what you see there is

Is pretty Concerning what the kids are being just in this case. Just in Democrat leading states. So Republicans are perfect. Illinois. I come from Illinois. So I don't live. I don't go to schools here in Florida. But in Illinois, if you go to those schools and you talk to kids and what they say that their teachers are doing, is it very concerning? If everybody was the teacher, what the teachers are doing is very concerning. That's what

she's saying, but continue. Guidance counselor, all I said was if the guidance counselor is able to look at these things objectively, that's a different story. If teachers are able to look at these problems objectively instead of pushing their own political ideologies, that is different. But what the culture is showing us

is that they are pushing their ideology. And that is a problem. I love teachers. The teachers that want to teach are great. And they should be elevated. But the others, particularly the millennials, are not doing that half the time. That's the problem.

Do you have any other angle from what we talked about here? You're the only one in the room here that's got a 16-year-old daughter. Well, it just told me I had an opinion before he heard it, I was going to say because it's back with facts. So it's not my opinion. I'm just going back on on facts. There's a simple, simple fact.

It is a fact in these Democrat leaning and hard blue districts. The guidance counselors and the teachers are actually denigrating the position of the parent. You should come talk to us. We see people like you every day. I see 50 students. Your parent sees one. You. We know what's going on. We know what's going on. You should come talk to us. So that's what's happening. It's not what you just said. Oh, I can't talk to my dad. My friends are a little confused. I'll go talk to my guidance counselor. There may be a threat of that atom, but they are being absolutely encouraged to come talk

to the guidance counselors and the teachers that are presenting them. The Southern viewpoint. And I'll tell you this, we need to go dig up Tyler. Go dig up the stats on teenage suicide. And sexual orientation, confusion, kids are writing these suicide notes out, talking about confusion, talking about they don't know, talking about these things. And so you want the guidance counselor to talk to your kid, and then your kid commits suicide, and you never knew, and you never knew. Well, discussion fair point.

So there should be their 18 Adam. You're responsible for them until they're 18. They break a window down the street. Technically, you got to pay for the window. You're responsible for them until they're 18. What a point. What did you hear? What a power?

That was a very good point because anything they screw up with is on me. So I may as well know about what they're up to because if they do screw up. It's me being a libel for it That's a very good point. By the way, two people just gave superchats 50 dollars above Fetsa Azul set Adam these thoughts increased risk of suicide significantly while parents are responsible We need to know especially if there's another adult involved and potentially influencing, then Tiko gave $199.00, Adam is clearly, Adam is clearly wants those communities to grow even more, but if, if media movies and social media is killing next generation, making people staying comforts

on lazy and easily upsetting emotionally, but here's what I'll say. So, so, so is right. Yeah, so, yeah, here's what I'll say when it comes on to this. If there is an area that's extremely, think about areas that you're everybody is sensitive and certain things. Everybody. The other day, we were doing a conference call and one of the leaders asked me questions and then she asked, how do you deal with sensitive people?

Okay. I said, what do you mean? Well, how do you deal with people that are sensitive? I said, everybody's sensitive. You're sensitive. I said, what do you mean? Well, how do you deal with people that are sensitive? I said, everybody's sensitive. Your sensitive. I'm sensitive. Don't get it twisted that just because you are not sensitive in an area that I'm sensitive in as if you are not sensitive in any area. You have certain sensitivities, but it's going to be different than Tyler's. Tyler's going to be different than Tom's. Tom's going to be different than Tom's. Tom's going to be different than Catalina's. The point when it comes down to kids, that is a very, very, very sensitive area because

anything you pay the biggest price for, anything, you build a business, you busted your ass for 10 years working 80 hours a week. Let me break it down for you. That person that runs that business extremely sensitive about protecting a business, right? Kids, you spend all those hours, that's a lot of sensitivity. By the way, the comment about teachers being underpaid, I disagree partially. Teachers get a nice little summer off.

They can do some summer school and stuff that they volunteer to do great. I think 30% of them should be fired, to be honest with you. Shouldn't be teachers. They should go to a different occupation. There's a lot of people that are teachers, that are miserable, that are bitter, that are not happy.

There's no such thing as a performance basis. Just stick around and you're gonna get a raise every year for 10 years that you have in place. I don't agree with that. I think there's gotta be certain. They're protected by the union. And by the way, even in the military, even in the military, guess what?

There were guys in the army that were there for 20 years way, even in the military, even in the military, guess what? There were guys in the army that were there for 20 years, that were still e-6s, meaning if you don't do certain correspondence and improve, you're getting a promoted to e-7 or e-8 or e-9 or whatever it is. Use that same thing with teachers and give them certain criteria to be able to become better teachers.

So I think 30% in a military days to do the following. When they had bad sergeants in the army where they were just not good leaders, you know what the army would do? become better teacher. So I think 30% in a military day is to do the following. When they had bad sergeants in army where they were just not good leaders, you know what the army would do? That come up to you if you're less than 15 years. They don't want you to retire with 20 years because they don't want to pay you for the rest of your life. They're coming that would say, hey man, we'll give you 30,000 dollars for you to leave today. Flat out. They'd come and say, we'll give you 20 and you know how many people would take it? A lot of them. Because army sitting there saying we're wasting our time with this person, that's not gonna be leader.

Here's 15 grand, leave, here's 30 grand, leave. I think many of these districts need to go to the bad teachers and say, here's 30,000 dollars, leave, you don't need to do this anymore. So this concept about everybody being afraid to have to say, all these teachers are perfect, stop it. Not all business people are great. The ones who are not great should be fired

and go out of business. Not all these two big to fill companies need to stick around because some of them don't know how to handle it. Not all business people are great. The ones who are not great should be fired and go out of business. Not all these two big-to-fill companies need to stick around because some of them don't know how to handle it. They keep doing buybacks and using taxpayers' dollars to save their own assets for making stupid mistakes. Let them go out of business. Let another company that's a better operator buying, same with cops, same with firefighters, same with pastors, same with teachers.

Anybody at the bottom 30% of what they're doing, that's not good at, you oughta get fired, go figure out something you want to do and take care of the customer. So no, I don't think all teachers are the best teachers that they're doing a great job. I think 30% of them should get fired. Anyways, people make this degree with me on.

No, I think they're, sorry, just a, but there are genuinely, there are good teachers that love what they do, they love their kids. They should get a raise. But they should and but they are rare to find. So I totally hear you. I think those teachers should be turning. Here's what I would do if I ran a state. Okay.

If I ran a state, okay. Say one day we campaigned, you become a governor, I'm your campaign manager and I'm sitting on the back, you know, we're working together, right? Okay. You know what we would strategize with? Here's what we would do. We would take the top 20 best teachers would bring them in,

and guess what we're doing to them? Turn them into frickin' rock stars. Tell me why this person's a great teacher. We'd create a Florida District YouTube channel, and we would turn these teachers into heroes, and put advertisements behind them, and then the state gives that teacher a $50,000 tax whatever bonus that they're getting.

You do to 20 teachers. What's 20 teachers and $50,000? Nothing, it's a million bucks. But that million bucks is gonna get the other teachers to say, shit, maybe I gotta become a better teacher. But because we're not doing the hero-making machine of the right teachers, nobody knows what the hell is a good teacher.

All we know is stick around, bro. You're going to get your 10-year bullshit raised and nobody cares if you're good or bad. Don't do that. Just make sure you're okay here and we're going to be all right. I don't agree with that. I think the hero making machine needs to change, but the sensitivities of parents with kids is a real issue. And this is an area where I would feel very uncomfortable. If your issue and this is an area where I would feel very uncomfortable. If your if your kid came and talked to me and said something to me and said, Hey, Uncle Patrick, man, I'm gonna talk to that something. I don't feel like I can talk my dad about it. He's 16. You know, who's the first one called on making? You're calling the parent. I'm calling you, bro. I was

Adam. Can I talk to you? Hey, I won't tell you something, bro. Just remember him. I got a very good relationship and I look at your son like my own son, man. So I talk to you? Hey, I want to tell you something, bro, just remember. Him and I got a very good relationship. And I look at your son like my own son, man. So I'm telling you this, but can you handle, can you promise me that we're gonna keep, because I wanna help as much as I can, yeah. He's struggling with this. And I think you need to know this,

because last thing I wanted, and by the way, if I don't tell you and God forbid something happens to your son for the rest of my life, I will feel guilty about not having told you that, because no one cares more about that kid than the parent. Nobody, not the teacher, not the friend, not the uncle, not anybody. No one cares more about that kid than the parent.

So I feel that part that Tom brought up this. I don't know. I don't even know how to help. We went into this conversation because we have a whole lot of the topics to get into. This was not even on our list of topics today. So now we only have hour and 60 minutes left for the real topics. What do you got up here? Washington State now appears to allow miners to undergo a life-changing gender reassignment surgery without parental consent.

Under New Law's insurance, most cover, a gender affirming care, including surgical treatments that were previously denied coverage. This is January 12, 2022. This is the logical next step, though. When you cut out the parent, well, hang on. How far are they willing to go. This is the logical next step though. When you cut out the parent, well hang on. How far are they willing to go? This is the logical next step.

When the guidance counselor doesn't talk to the parent and the child changes their mind and decides that they are now she, her pronouns from he, him. So they've got to send their mind. What's the logical next step for them? To fulfill the she, her pronoun, right? So what do they do? They go see their doctor.

And on your point, you said that the guidance counselor is a trained expert. Well, so are these doctors. These doctors are trained experts. There's only one area we have an issue with though here, Tyler. I don't disagree with them. I just have one issue. Guess what the issue is? There's only one issue we are debating here, telling the parent, telling the parent, well, I know, I don't agree. That's the only issue. So meaning he's right, that conversation's gonna be had. They're gonna have that like, if I wanna join the military, I'd go to Miss Sinclair and I was a Miss Sinclair.

I wanna join the army, but I don't think my mom's gonna support it. What do you think? Do you understand? Okay, my mom should probably know that. No, I agree, I'm just saying this is, you're now cutting out the parent totally. So again, I don't disagree at all,

that sure they'll have the conversation with the guidance council. But first of all, the guidance council is an a therapist. They're not a non-partisan neutral actor. They're gonna have, they're gonna guide the child. And if they don't tell the parent, you're now having laws where the doctors

no longer have to tell the parent. I'll give you guys a final thoughts. I'll give you two of you guys each final thoughts and then we'll move on to topic. If you have one. I have one thing to say. Go ahead. So I don't wanna be,

I don't wanna, the issue is being conflated and I just wanna be very clear here. Sure. There needs to be certain trigger points, okay? Hey, I'm having a conversation, I don't know if I'm gay, I don't know, I don't know if I like this girl. Totally normal conversation.

If I think I'm a boy and I think about becoming a girl, if I'm thinking about committing suicide, fuck yeah, inform the parents. There's trigger points. That is something completely different from, hey, I'm having a normal issue. Those are two totally separate things. What percentage of kids are considering changing their sex or committing suicide? The one percent- Well, that percentage is increasing. Then yes yes in those cases and from the parents but the casual conversation in that regard and they don't want to inform the parents i'm okay with that i'm super clear on that quick point you made a really

great point about results driven and teachers my mom is a guidance counselor kindergarten teacher and all whatever became a guidance counselor she would have thirty kids lined up at her door just waiting to see her because they loved her so much. Yet the other teachers and the other guidance counselors barely had the same kids. They were working all the same hours. My mom would work late because she wanted to talk with each student individually. But yet because of the school system and because it's not run like a business, they were still

paid the same. She deserves a raise. Their performance, that performance didn't matter. And you bring up a really good point there. And I think that's something that actually governors should consider. 20 great teachers every quarter, given $50,000 bonus,

every quarter, that's $4 million a year. I would do it if I was a governor. 20 teachers every quarter need to get a $50,000 bonus given to them. A state can't afford to do that. Go ahead Tom. Yeah, so I want to end with facts on the suicide side. And this is horrifying. The Trevor Project that works with John Topkins to conduct research studies. LGBTQ youth are four times as lucky to knit suicide than their peers.

1.8 million of them communicate their desire to commit suicide each year. There is one suicide attempt from age 13 to 18, LGBTQ youth every 45 seconds. And 45% of the LGBTQ publicly identified youth have seriously considered suicide in the past year. 45% of the LGBTQ publicly identified youth have seriously considered suicide in the past year. I mean, you call it stigmas, you call it bullying, there's a lot of bad things that happen there,

but you're talking about a mental health crisis that we need a team working on, and we need parents working on it, and we need guidance counselors not being isolated for political reasons, and we need teachers not being isolated for political reasons, because teachers not being isolated for political reasons because we have a crisis with our youth and Bill Maher is correct that the percentages are increasing. This is horrifying stats. And by the way to transition away from this into the next one, I don't think we could have done a better job by whether it's pure luck or

intentional going into Salvador Ramos, what happened in Yvaldi with San Antonio. This is exactly the direction where it goes. If there's communication, there's many things. So listen, a lot of people have commented about the tragic event that took place in San Antonio over the last 72 hours or four days ago. When this event took place, this was two days ago, right? One this event took place. Yes, Tuesday. So 19 children died two teachers died

Salvador Ramos. I yesterday and today I've been trying to find out about this guy Steve Cress commented on a Matthew McConaughey better or work president Obama There's pretty much so many people we're gonna go through all of that and I want to get your commentary everybody That's listening to this So here's what I wanted to find out about the shooter. So here's what we know about Sabah Toramos. 18 years old, he killed 19 children and two teachers, okay. They interviewed the grandfather. He said he would stay in the room by himself all the time. He didn't talk very much. He played video games. He didn't live with his mothers because they

had problems. He didn't have a driver's license. He never spoke about guns. On social media, he gave hints. He said, wait till tomorrow, kids be scared with photos of assault rifles and magazines. He texted a girl the morning of the shooting four hours before the event at 7.33 a.m. He texted a girl saying, Hey, you're going to repost my gun pick. She asked, what your guns got to do with me? He said, I have a little secret to tell you. Okay, so this already happened four hours before. Governor Abbott shared three disturbing posts. He said, I'm going to shoot my grandmother. Then momentarily later, he posted, I shot my grandmother, who 66 years old, that worked for the school district. Then I'm going to shoot an elementary

school. He shared these three posts. This is not like it's in his mind. He posted these three things, right? He turned 18 on May 16th, on May 17th, he bought an AR-15 rifle, style gun, a style rifle. And then on the 20th, he bought another one from Oasis Outback He bought 375 rounds of a 5.56 ammunition He shot one of the girls students who tried to call 911. He noticed he's called a 911. He shot her No criminal or mental history. They're right now doing some due diligence to see if he's got anything with Juve But apparently it's saying it's got nothing Friends said he was a loner. He was bullied in school for speech impediment. He came from a family of drug addiction. Several months before the massacre, he came to live with his grandmother. He slept on a mattress on the floor. Favorite game was Call of Duty.

His friends said he had scars on his face. They asked him what happened to your face as I did it myself. The day before the shooting, he had an argument over failing to graduate with his grandmother and he shot her in the face. Okay. Ramos fled the home with grandparents pick up trucks, which they found it on the side. And then you know a couple of people saw him, one guy saw him saying, hey, something wrong with you. I'm trying to help you and then he saw the gun. And then he went out. Apparently one of the doors was open in the school to get in and he goes into the first classroom and 19 students, he kills, and two teachers. And then I brought a bunch of different things here on what some people have given solutions. This is what I want to do. One, I want to get your take. Then I want to see

what you think the challenge is because there's few different things you that we got to look at. One is the shooter. We got to look at the profile of the shooter. Now we know enough about the shooter to know what he is. Obviously we're going to learn more as times come by. Is it the gun makers fault? Because you know, they're going to get a lawsuit. Because we heard what happened with the lawsuit with Remington have to pay $72 million, right?

And they just said yes. They just settled in, said $72 million. No, no, what? Sandy Hook? Yep. And you better believe this is coming it Guys know they're gonna pay for this right is it the shooter is it the gunmaker is it the state is it federal level is it Labius is it media is it covid lockdown is it Fauci is it the president is it the preference is a big formal who is it and

Then what kind of solutions can we come up with because there's different kinds of solution? We'll talk everybody's solutions on what they're suggesting, but I want to hear from you guys So from the story you heard obviously initial reaction tragic event But what are your thoughts Catalina? I'll go to first number one Evil will commit evil and they will get their hands on whatever they want to commit evil with period this was a deranged person and It's sick to me that politicians, talking heads, the media, inflame the conversation,

and the first thing they try to do is push gun control, and start to villainize or vilify the AR-15 and the gun, and they talk about the object used more than the actual case and the person and the issue behind it all. The focus is on the weapon. When somebody kills somebody with a car, with a DUI or whatever,

they don't talk about the making model of a vehicle. They talk, the person is the person in question and why they did it and et cetera, et cetera. It is so sick to me that they immediately try to gun control. We need a ban AR-15s and then everybody from a cultural perspective, blue check marks, celebrities, politicians, inflame the narrative, millennials, unfortunately, don't even understand

what an AR-15 is half the time, don't even understand guns, and then they just start creating this massive narrative that is false. Tom, it's a very good point there by the way in regards to if the car were to, we don't go and say what's the making model, we talk about the driver. Not the other way around. Yeah, exactly. I want to make one quick point. It is awful what happened, and every gun owner believes, we don't go and say, what's the making model, we talk about the driver. Not the other way around. Yeah, exactly. I want to make one quick point. It is awful what happened and every gun owner believes

we have hearts and it's devastating, but it's not the gun, it is the person. Hey man, it is the person. It's kind of to our previous discussion, how it rolls into this. I find it really interesting that nobody wants to talk about red flag laws. Nobody wants to talk about the things that would enable citizens to notify and give tip lines when something's going on. Isn't it

interesting that the same week this happens? Our Treasury Department uncovers a very subtle but deep attempt by a gentleman in Ohio to assassinate ex-president Bush. Now how did that happen, Pat? Because they have early warning systems, they have feelers, they're listening, they have stuff out there, and they say, we better go talk to this guy, we better go figure out what this guy is doing, and they thwart the assassination. If the same type of systems and attempts were out there in the form of red flag laws and other things, we would be finding people that really need help.

And how many things would we stop in terms of individual suicides? Very interesting that a state senator in New York said, listen, the number one problem we have a guns in state of New York is suicides. And it's not a high-capacity magazine. It's one. I said, you know, the issue is we're not getting to people that desperately need help. And so I lean toward, you know, you have to harden the target, and it looks like the door was unlocked back by the teacher's parking lot. You got to harden

your targets, anything about security, whether you're talking internet security or building security, you got to harden the target. And then the other side of it, we need the ability to, through red flag. And by the way, Florida has one. Florida has red flag laws. You can call me equivalent of child protection services. We'll go out, speak to somebody, and, you know, how many lives do they save, including that person?

Because the first life is usually the suicide Adam and there's so many reasons this keeps happening and first and foremost we have to protect the kids okay because it's very clear these freaking losers in congress no offense you're not there yet can't figure it out. They just can't. The public sentiment is, and I think where people, where I don't know if it's the left or the anti-NRA, they started saying gun control.

It should be more gun safety or gun education. But I think it was David Harris, you quoted yesterday, you probably have that. Oh, put it up, so we can show it. I totally agree with that. We defend our president with guns. We defend our congressmen and women with guns. We defend our governors with guns, celebrities with guns, sporting events, jewelry stores, banks, office buildings, factories, courts, all with guns, but we defend our children

with a sign that reads, this is a gun-free zone. I don't understand that. I am sick and tired of seeing this. And I feel like when Parkland happened, here in our backyard, disgusted. I have friends, I have family members that live in Coral Springs, Parkland. When Sandy Cook happened under Obama presidency in what, 2010-ish, that's heartbreaking. And you have these, I remember a time where you would go to school and you would play duck duck goose, and that's all you had to worry about. And now they're literally sitting ducks.

So for some psychopath to come in and just shoot up the place because he knows he's not gonna get met with a gun. How deranged and how just what a, for an 18 year old kid to say, I'm just gonna go shoot some 10 year olds. Like, he knows that he's not gonna face a challenge. This kid's scared, this kid's got issues, this kid's got mental illness,

that's a whole other thing we need to talk about here. There's so many different factors and different ways that we can assess this, but we need to start with the problem that these kids are sitting ducks in school. And- I wanna know why though, I wanna know why this keeps happening

and what the solution is, because everyone's pitching the different solution. I happening and what the solution is, because everyone's pitching the different solution. I want to know what the solution is. You raise your hand, you want to say something. Number one, absolutely. Most members, especially the ones who are constantly met with death threats and whatever,

have armed security, right? I mean, that post is very valid. Why aren't we protecting our kids with the same level? Why aren't we spending the money? the same level? Why aren't we spending the money? The taxpayer money are being spent on ridiculous items, but not on protecting our most vulnerable. On the point on the members of Congress, everything has become so politicized right now, and it's a way to divide. Because when you have politicians that are so quick to pass legislation

and to get together, especially when they have a majority, when the left has a majority in Congress, they're ready to push legislation immediately based on what agenda they want. So if they don't like guns because A, they don't understand them, B, they just don't like them, they don't respect our second amendment

and why it was written as written. They will pass what they want and they are able to put their own influence, their agenda and use a tragedy to politicize it. That is sick to me. Your member of Congress should listen. If you want to come up with solutions, members of Congress are not these brilliant philosophers. That's very true that you need to you need to listen and find solutions talk to people talk figure out why

these problem solve instead of putting your own political agenda and then passing legislation based on your own politics while ramam annual one said you never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before. So they're definitely capitalizing off what's going on. Here's, you know, it's gonna happen.

What's that? Yeah, just like we brought up the LGBT and everything that happened with CRT. So the group of people that is moving the country these days are the soccer moms and the COVID moms. We saw what happened in Virginia with who's the governor of Virginia, a gene-yunkin. How we defeated Terry McCullough in Virginia.

And it was all on the premise of CRT, okay? And the Republicans in the right, they're winning the culture wars because keep your hands off my kids You want a sure way to lose? Yeah, like it's far as I'm concerned. There's gonna be a red wave just like when AOC came in to Congress in 2018 There was a blue wave a lot of it was anti-Trump what have you? Right now, I think you know, you might be a part of it

And I wish you the best of luck in 2022 midterms. I assume there's gonna be a red wave. You know how there won't be a red wave? Is when soccer moms or COVID moms or the moms say, yeah, I just want my kids to be safe at school. And if you have the left basically saying, what the hell's going on? The guns, the guns, the guns.

Do you fund the police? Okay, but that's an issue from three years ago at this point. But and you have the, I'm just letting you know what the left is going to do. Mark my words. This weekend is an NRA conference in Texas nonetheless. So when you see all these Republicans show up at the NRA, given speeches about whatever they're going to talk about the NRA, the left is going to capitalize that and say, see, these people don't care about your kids, they care about guns more, they care about the second amendment more than anything else.

This isn't even my opinion. This is going to happen. You're 100% right, which is why it's so important that you have good messengers on our side that are able to communicate to the soccer moms, the realities of these things, to promote gun safety, to not vilify guns and gun culture. And when you look at the defund the police movement, I know it was three years ago, but that really did impact moms

because it was affecting these local communities when the left wants to defund the police and they vilify the law enforcement, they vilify the weapons that they use. Mama Bears want to protect their cups. And I will tell you, we have more moms getting their void cards, conceal carry, talking about school choice

because they are so fed up with the way that their local governments are running their kids, their communities, and the schools. I want to, they're more fed up with the way that their local governments are running their kids, their communities, and the schools. They're more fed up with dead kids. Yeah, but I'm going to tell you this here. So I could care less about the convention that they're having, and I could care less about all the others because that's politics, set that aside. I want solutions. Okay. So I'm thinking long-term solutions. Anytime you build a business and we're going through crisis, and you may lose people today. And by the way, this is business. I'm not talking about life.

So don't confuse losing people with. I'm talking long-term solution, because I don't want this thing to happen. I was watching videos of one of the fathers holding the daughter's picture like this on CNN crying emotional talking about the fact how sweet her daughter was and how she had a three, they have a three-year-old son and a three-year-old son

they have to explain to him the fact that your sister is now with God and the kid didn't understand it because he just wants to play with his older sister that's 10 years old, that's pain. Those 19 parents, no matter what we do today, they're in pain, the two teachers that you lost their lives, those families are gonna be mourning and this is gonna be a scar that's gonna be left

for the rest of their lives. However, I want solutions, Here's where I'm thinking. Let me tell you what's been proposed. And I'm listening to everybody's solution. Sean Whalen, I just gave you the tweet. This guy has great commentary that he posts. We talked about his parenting style. What he did with his son that he didn't want to do wrestling.

If you remember that guy's story, he posted this on Instagram yesterday. He says, he says there's 131,000 K through 12 schools in America. Placing our guard, retire, vet at every school, paying 75 K year, that's $9.8 billion to protect every school in America, right? Okay, you look at this, yet we spend $40 billion that we sent to Ukraine. Let that sink in, so that hurts.

The left that's sitting there saying, oh, we wanna say, we want to do this we want to do that yet you're not using who you already have there are nineteen million well trained very very valuable retard veterans currently in america men and women trust about the government to protect this nation i trust them to protect our schools okay uh... the real question is where do you stand and what will you do about it

okay so that's one point steep current the other side who was on the complete opposite side of Sean Wade and said the following. He lost it in an interview and he made an emotional play. You can tell he was emotional because he personally experienced this. I believe with his father so you know you know this is something very close to him. He says now we have children murdered at school. When are we going to do something? I'm so tired of getting up here and offering condolences to devastated families that are out there. I'm tired of excuses.

I'm tired of moments of silence enough. There's 50 senators who refused to vote on HR rate, which is a background check rule that the house passed two years ago. There's a reason why they want vote on it to hold onto power. So I ask you, Mitch McConnell, I ask all of you senators who refuse to do anything about the violence, the school school shooting and the supermarket shooting

i ask you are you going to put your does that on desire of power ahead of our children are elderly in our church goers because that's what it looks like so what he's saying is his solution purely everything he said the solution of what's the christmas what background checks okay fine so that's a background check. Now let's go to another one. It needs to go deeper than just that. But it needs to go so.

So here's where I go. I looked up yesterday on what percentage of teachers are CPR certified, okay? And I looked it up and I'm like, okay, what percentage of teachers are CPR certified? You'll see different numbers on different states. I have an article here. I Tyler, I don't know if I sent you this article or not.

If I don't, if I did an Alimelot here right now, so you can show it to everybody. This shows which states are CPR certified and which ones are not. Meaning certain, certain states require you to be, require you to be CPR certified. If you can pull that up so people can see it, the article right there. States where CPR training is mandatory for teachers. You may be asking Pat, where are you going with this?

I'll explain to you here in a minute. Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, California, Colorado, DC, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, required, okay? Known states where bills have been introduced. None states where CPR is not yet required for teachers is there is Arizona,, they'll work Florida.

Georgia. I mean, Adam, they're not required, right? Okay. Cool. They're not required. Here's what I would be asking. And by the way, Steve Kerr was against teachers having guns in schools. Okay. The guy whose name was Angel Vargas. I want to say that saw the shooter in the backyard. Albert Vargas saw the guy in the back of the school and he went up to try to help him. Then he saw the gun that came out. He said, oh, shit. Then he went to the car because he had a pistol. He said, if I had a pistol with me right now, I could have shot him and saved these 19 kids.

That's what he said. Albert Vargas. So by the way, but there's a lesson there as well because here's the lesson. The lesson then becomes, if we have kids, if we have teachers that are CPR certified, 28% of them, whatever it is, I think that needs to be 100% of teachers need to be CPR certified because you just need to know how to handle that moment. We saw a video the other day,

one kid that was running or not couldn't breathe, somebody came and help him, I saved his life. It can happen at any time. Why not take some of the teachers in school who volunteer to be certified? Why don't we of the teachers in school who volunteer to be certified. Why don't we protect the teachers that have background send them to some kind of training. I don't know, make it 10% of teachers. Make it 5% of teachers.

Make it something that is a group of teachers that choose to be certified to have guns in schools. And what Sean talked about, I agree with that as well. So to sit around saying, oh, we don't need to have any of this stuff is a bunch of nonsense. So another one, Beto jumps up, and I don't know if you guys saw one, Beto jumped up and tried to be opportunistic. Let me tell you what you did, it's your fault, it's this, it's that, in that opportunity moment,

that's when you know you don't let an opportunity go to waste. You know this guy's gonna be running for governor. And what's his solution? His solution a couple years ago when he changed his solution was, would you consider confiscating weapons and confiscating people's guns? Well, I would definitely consider it as an option. Well, folks, I'm just telling you, that's just not gonna happen in America. It's gonna be very problematic if they try to take guns away from people that own guns.

The whole reason why people have guns is because it is, FYI, Samy Dubal said something when I interviewed him about guns. He says, let me put it to you this way. Bad guys, people like me, we're gonna get our hands on guns. You wanna take guns away from good guys, you have problems.

You don't want guns taken away from good guys because a bad guy like me will always illegally find a way to get his hands on guns. So is the solution to take away guns? I don't know about that. But I will tell you, for me, went a little bit deeper than that as Joel, who was the dean of our school, sent his text to me yesterday, and I asked him, I said, who wrote this? He says, I wrote this. I said, okay, I'm going to read it. I'm not going to give this full name, but you guys can read what he had to say. People wanna go after and attack gun rights after this awful event that took place.

I get it, please tell me, though, how will this change anything? Drugs are illegal, and we have them in high volume in our country right now. Chicago is one of the most gun restricted states in America, yet 797 homicides, and 3,561 shootings in 2021 and 204 deaths already in 2022. In the case of Texas School, the Texas Church and the Buffalo grocery store,

even the strictest gun laws was broken. Why would you think that more laws wouldn't be broken? Even would exist, you talked about that earlier, more and more, the further we get away from God. He took the angle of faith and the role, values and principles place. Then I saw what Prager you posted, which was very interesting. They said since America removed God and religion from public life, marriage rates, birth rates, charitable giving has declined, crime, behavior problems in school, fatherlessness has increased. Look, I don't know what the solution for this is. I don't think it's one or two things.

I think a lot of people are playing the role on this. I will tell you that if you're constantly, constantly dividing America with media and you're talking about who hates who and you're agitating these young kids at any point they don't fully have all the information they may go out there and do something you talked about the fact that hey you know you know maybe they need to make guns what not 18 and over an 18 year person shouldn't be able to buy a gun right maybe alcohol is 21 is

the solution to make guns 21 instead of 18 for me. Good die for your country and a fantasy and a team for me for me for me What I what I think is the solution with me? This is me talking. I think the more trained people the safer we feel I don't want a person having a gun that's not trained. I want more people, I want more trained people to have guns. I want people who are taking any kind of medication that has to do with mental health illness. Anybody that's taking any kind of medication like that, I don't think those folks ought to have access to guns until they're good. These are my opinions, these are my solutions.

People are pitching a lot of different ways to solve this. My only interest is, what can we do to address this moving forward, not just a, let's put a bandaid like you're saying right now, you know what, let's me motion to make a decision, create laws and right now, let's do this. No, let's figure out the right long term solution and realize the following as as terrible as this may sound. No matter what policies we put in place,

the bad guys are not going away. No matter what policies you put in place, fatherlessness, a kid raised without a father. My kids are got, they got very, very, very strong personalities. My boys, I'll come home. You know how they are. I'll come home and Melva will say, Daddy, they're going to call me or a general rep. My daddy will call me, they're not listening. So when I come home, it takes a second for them to listen. I imagine if there wasn't that, okay?

So when they're sitting there, there's a guy on CNN, yes, it is, that's it. If you care so much, if you care so much about the current living children, as much as you did about the unborn, we could have saved these 19 lives. And then so conservatives say, what about the one million?

How come you don't care about the one million lives that was lost last year according to based on abortion? Why do you only care about this? This is really only politics. So there's so much of political positions both sides are taken and they're so blinded that they're not sitting there saying, what is truly the long-term solution instead of repeating what I heard on Tucker instead of repeating what I heard from Cooper instead of repeating what

I saw on MSNBC instead of me repeating that no actually pause. Guys all that stuff you said to take shots at me or the other person, no one cares. What do you want to do about this? What's the long-term solution? And what works? Let's figure something out. That's where we need to go. And I don't think we're going that direction at this point. But those are some of my thoughts

about what I think is going on. Go ahead. Yeah, culture runs politics, not the other way around. And that's important to note, because for example, the Chicago example is true. Air 15s were banned in 2019 in the city of Chicago yet gun homicides went up by 53% regardless so We there is data to show that gun control legislation and gun control might not work and

And why are law-biting citizens that impacts law-biting citizens all-biting citizens, that impacts law-biting citizens. Again, the bad guys will get their hands on it regardless. What happens if a kid wanted to drive a semi or a truck or whatever into a building? Like, are we talking about the truck and the building that is able to still hurt and kill on a mass scale? I mean, why is the focus on the gun and the object used? And that's the issue is again, they're making policy changes based on a singular narrative

instead of looking at all of these different. It's obviously a complex issue. Hunter Pollock is a friend of mine. His sister was killed in Parkland. And he talks a lot about one of his tweets said, single point of entry, armed security. Protect our schools like we protect our airports and federal buildings. We need to fortify these areas

and in our most vulnerable. And we should be, that should be one area avenue of solution that we do look at. But that's not going to happen when you have this noise and the culture surrounding the anti-gun movement. They are dictating right now the terms. It'll only, all they will talk about is regulating guns and not actually focusing on a more complex solution. And I think it comes down to the states and the local community level as well to have thoughtful leaders that come together

and wanna make change at their schools on a local and state level because your members of Congress and from a federal level, there are a lot of them won't listen right now and it's very divided. Tom. I agree with you. So you look at it right now and no one is looking at the finger that was on the trigger.

Go back to Columbine. Tell me about the age. Those go, oh, two boys, 17, 18. And go to this one. No one's looking at the finger on the trigger and saying, what do we have to do to get out in front of this to stop the people that are perpetrating this? Because the phrase is right, if guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's very true.

It was true during poor vision where Al Capone and the Chicago gangs had bigger and better guns than the little pistol that the average cop had in Chicago. And so when you focus on guns, you try to control the guns, you're not going to get to the heart of the matter. Both Australia and Japan, and you can find the stories today, did multipoint implementations. It's just like business. I never have a single problem in business. It's not just sales, right Pat?

It be sales and it's leadership and it's their product and you have to you have to turn a bunch of knobs and it's not to equate business with this situation but there's a lot of points here that we have to look at. You know we if we sell a car we have to fill out a form and we have to go to DMV. Why shouldn't there be some sort of you know know, requirement on that? But that's only going to help the law-abiding sportsmen who are buying guns from each other or trading guns from each other. You know, you, you, it's, this is a multi-part problem and we got to get to the finger that was on the trigger and look at what was common

in these shooters because there is a crisis in, in our America's youth. There's a crisis going on, because these are who the shooters are. And it's like, what do they have in common? How can we get out in front of it? Adam, I'm going to follow thoughts here. Why are school zones, or schools, gun-free zones? Why is that?

Why is that a thing? Is anyone know? And why are they advertising it? Is anyone know that? That's what Steve Kerr supported four years ago when kids were talking about guns to make it a gun-free zone. So Steve Kerr's rant he had the other day contradicts himself because one, he wants background checks, but two, he's supported not having any keeping schools as a gun-free zone.

Well, to be clear, I'm in in favor of gun free zones for kids this guy i don't want to get to bring in guns to school luchiano just commented right now saying every school has school safety officers on site if we are really serious as a nation about keeping our children safe then why are they unarmed exactly he's making a lot of it and your Yeah. But like what's the rationale there? What like hey guys, listen, we're gonna protect everyone the president the government's the bank the congressman

Sporting events the schools no guns. We can't have a gun on campus. Explain that to me I truly believe it's the culture again I think the defund the police movement and how law enforcement has been vilified and just Surrounding why is it that they don't value protection and the people who protect us? It's a culture issue. I don't know if it's a culture. I mean, because this is a question, not a point, but this is in every school in America. Is this in elementary, middle school, high school?

What's the problem? I our problem exists what i'm saying why aren't there more or i uh... shoun wailin who you mentioned i agree have a couple veterans have a couple security guards with guns vetted secure i don't get it i just my my brain isn't wrapping look it's become so clear.

Congress ain't doing anything. Clearly, I mean, since Sandy Hook, since Columbine, has anything changed, they talk about bump stocks, you know, whatever the hell that issue was. Okay, Congress isn't moving the needle, because basically what's happening on the right is they're saying, keep your hands off my guns. I'm not ever gonna let you have my gun.

It's not happening. And by the way, if we've learned anything over COVID, the left will overreach. And they're clearly have the right to feel like, nah, I don't trust you. And then on the left, they're basically saying all they care about is their guns. They care about guns more than kids living.

And this is the culture war right here. But the one thing that the left and the right, kind of like with the abortion, let's protect the life of the mother. The one thing the left and the right do agree on is, let's protect these kids. So let's start with the schools and figure out a solution within the schools and within the school systems,

within the school districts, because Congress on a government federal level can't get their ships. So, so, so let me read this and I want to, I want to give you a complete opposite comment that was just made to get your feedback on this. According to crime prevention research, I know Gumfree zones areas where guns are prohibited have been the target of more than 98% of all mass shootings. This staggering number is why such designated areas are often referred to as soft targets, meaning unprotected and vulnerable according to crime prevention center. Research center only a little more than 1% of mass public shootings since 1950 have occurred. In places where places that were not considered to be gun-free zones.

In fact, as crime prevention research center president president John Law Jr. noted in October 2015, only two mass shootings in US since 1950 have occurred in an area where citizens were not prohibited from carrying a gun. Very interesting stat right there, but I want to throw a complete curveball in there based on what Tico just said. Comment.

He just gave $20 and said, US is the only country where it happens so often, because no other country has that many guns owned by the public. Every country has crazy and immoral people, but no other country has such easy access to guns as U.S. Do you agree with them? You guys are quiet. It's a pretty good point he's making. So, what do you say?

When you look at guns per capita, I mean, United States guns per capita is highest in the world. And then there's this other guy, Mario Freide, he says, so here's a question. You think that there would be similar situations with mental health issues, considering this background in Europe. Yes, of course, the difference. You can't buy an AR-15 in Europe. Don't they have mass knife stabings?

They do have. I want the data here. Yes. They do have mass-15 in Europe. Don't they have mass knife stabbings? I want the data here. But they do have mass, especially in UK. Yeah. The data would say that these guys are incorrect. Mass knife stabbings. But wait a minute. First is a gun.

Killing somebody is killing somebody. The weapon used should not be the focus. Yeah, but that's like, you know what? Forget about the weapon. I'm just gonna have an old school musket and just every time I shoot, I'm gonna reload, like it doesn't add up. If you have an AR-15, you can go,

brrrrr. What? No, you can't. Is that not an AR-15? Okay, so then what is an AR-15? It's a single. That's what people think. That's not a single, that's not a single.

You're the military guy. It's not an AR-15, doesn't do that, bro. They're not a military style. What is it? Yeah, okay. Why would somebody even need an AR 15? It's a, how, cause I think 40% of all shootings have used an AR 15

that's a, no, it does not. No, the vast majority of mass shootings are committed with hand guns. They, a congressional study said, and by the way, that's a big number. It's not a small number. It's not like 49%. It's a very, but why does someone need an it? Can we put what an AR 15 looks like? Just because it's bigger. But why does someone need it? No more gun. Why does someone need an AR 15?

It's a type of gun. But why does someone need it? Because it's a gun. Because it's longer range. But what are they? What are they used to? It doesn't matter. It's a matter why we want it to happen. This is coming from a guy that owns AR-15 and I own a lot of stuff that I own. And I have it. This is my concern, Tyler. And I want you to push back on this. And Catalina and Tom, challenge this argument. Why shouldn't the people that are buying these weapons be well trained? Why shouldn't there be something tied to mental health and the medication they're taking? Why shouldn't that be okay for us to know that?

What's wrong with knowing that and what's wrong with us? Increasing training. When I get a car that I use, I got to get a permit and I got to get a license, right? I mean, that's across the board. And a car is a weapon. that I use, I gotta get a permit and I gotta get a license, right? I mean, that's across the board. And a car is a weapon. The car is something, believe me, there's some drivers in America,

you're gonna be driving, and the car's right now, right? So why not focus on training? And is there anybody that's buying guns that shouldn't have access to those guns? By the way, FYI, keep them on. I know that no matter what we do, we're not gonna get to 0% where none of this stuff is going to be happening. But why not

focus on getting people trained more time? You build a great point. My daughter just got her driver's license. She had to certify she's not under medication. She has to take a vision test. And so it says on your driver's license corrected. So she's pulled over and she doesn't have a license. No, her right side is fine. But if she had glasses and she's pulled over and she doesn't have a latch. No, her right size fine But if she had glasses and she's pulled over not wearing her glasses the couple say, yeah, you've got corrected vision Why don't you wear your glasses? So they do that and by the way It's a very elaborate check. I've seen it with my own eyes here in Florida You're 76 years old and you go to renew your driver's license

You have to go in there and you you have to Pass a vision check so Look we require people to go to DMV bring there and you have to pass a vision check. So look, we require people to go to DMV, bring a registration in, you know, you sold your truck to me, we fill it out, and I get it. Okay. And we have situations where I have to go to driver's ad. And my first time, I have to take a driver's test, don't I? To get my driver's license. Why not? Why not do this for Pat? I'm with you, why not do it for guns?

So hang on, you have to go, when you get your first weapon, you have to get a gun safety course. If you wanna drive a school bus, you have to get a class C driver's license to be trained so that you're capable of driving a bus. So why not do the same thing that your first weapon, your gun license, involves training.

I'm with you 100% on point. I think we might be on the same page on this. My concern is who gets to aid to side the criteria on that. And if it's the federal government, that's incredibly concerning. There was a boyfriend loophole in a recent red flag legislation

that was being drafted. And what's to say, just hypothetical scenario playing doubles advocate? loophole in a recent red flag legislation that was being drafted. And what's to say, just hypothetical scenario playing doubles advocate, what if you are really pissed off at your boyfriend and because he cheated on you, whatever it might be, and he owns a firearm, he owns an AR-15, and you go and tell the cops that he's a deranged person and he did all this stuff, and then they go and take the weapon away. There's a very fine line when it comes to what government's authority is on being able to decide

who owns a firearm based on our second amendment. Americans all can. And so where is that? Where does that play? I don't have to, but to make a point here, I want to make sure that I'm not wrong. In the red flag laws, they don't seize and take the weapon away for you forever. Right? It's like having your car impounded.

Hey, we're concerned here, so we're going to impound your gun. And there's a process to go get it back. Was it really a fight here? Were you really upset? Were you really a risk to people? And there's a process there. That's the point for the red flag. Now, I agree with what you say, because the people that are against background checks for all weapons, you don't know what they're going to do. They're going to have a list of everybody that owns every gun. And then they are slowly going to start classifying every gun as an assault weapon.

This is an assault weapon. Suddenly a 12-gauge shotgun that's only used to shoot birds is now gonna be a assault weapon, and Uncle Harry is gonna lose his bird gun. If they're gonna just gonna keep turning that knob down because their goal is to get the weapons away from you. That is the argument that comes from the other side. Tyler, push back, push back on what I'm saying.

Okay, first of all, I don't know where in the country you can't, you can legally buy a weapon without a going through a concealed firearms course. Right, how do you, what are you talking about in Texas? You, you, you, you, you want to talk about how long it took me to finish? Excuse me, there are, there are 24 states now that are about a constitutional carry,

but you still cannot buy a weapon without going through a background check. You cannot buy a weapon if you're addicted to any drugs. You cannot buy a weapon if you have a felony They do an extensive background check on you and again This isn't the problem the problem is not the the law abiding citizen who's buying the weapon Chicago Cook County has the strictest gun laws in the country and their shootings are skyrocketing They have 30 40 50 people a week dying From shootings that are being shot, young kids, gang members, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And again, it doesn't matter how strict the gun laws are.

If you take the guns away, if somebody wants to do harm, they'll do harm, right? They'll create a bomb, go bomb a marathon. They'll drive a truck through a Christmas parade in Wukusha, Wisconsin, or in France. 84 people died on Bastille Day. This was like 10 years ago in France. So drive a truck through the crowd. To Catalina's point, people are gonna on Bastille Day. This was like 10 years ago in France. So drive a truck through the crowd.

To Catalina's point, people are gonna wanna do harm. The problem is not the gun. It's the hedonism and the lack of, as you put it earlier, the lack of God within the country. People don't, they're lost. I have no purpose there. You're talking to a guy, you're talking to a guy that loves America like you wouldn't believe.

You're talking to a guy that was in a military who thinks I you know how many people I want to have guns in America you know how many people I want to have guns in semiautomatic in America how many you think I won't have all I want a hundred percent but hundred percent trained is what I want a hundred percent trained is what I want let me read you a couple comments that we just got here on what I said. Some agree, some disagree. So, John McGuire just gave 50 bucks. This is common factor amongst the shooters,

lonely, delusional, complete lack of purpose or belonging. It's really hard to help these kids. Let's stop trying to treat the symptom and go after the cause, mentoring, give these kids a purpose. Fine. This next person said, Anna Bruner said, I'm an NRA instructor and I totally agree with Pat

on training. Everyone who owns a firearm should be trained. I've been teaching for 30 years. I feel this is the best solution. All I'm saying is go back and think about, you know, second amendment, what is second amendment? It's not a privilege, right? Some guy commented saying it's not a privilege. Only the car is a privilege. Only the gun is constitutional right. You have the right to have's not a privilege, right? Some guy commented saying it's not a privilege. Only the car is a privilege.

Only the gun is constitutional right. You have the right to have this. Totally get it, right? But to me, even if you go back and think about back in the days where you were worried about somebody attacking you, or even somebody invading like government, somebody comes into your house and give me this, give me that, which happens all the time in a lot of different countries

to make sure that doesn't happen in America. Well, how do you fight against that? You'll fight against that against by knowing how to use these weapons. If you don't know how to use these weapons, you just buy gun to buy a gun. That doesn't mean you know what you're doing. So to train them is the solution. If I, again, go back to policies. If I want my state to be protected, I want to make my guys more

trained. But at the same time, I don't want somebody who is taking certain mental health medication to have access to weapons because they're going through something. That is a concern that we ought to think about that. There is a challenge with that. Some people fight back on that and I totally understand that argument. But I'm trying to go to the point of what's wrong with having every single person that owns a gun be trained. What's wrong with that? Nothing.

You talk to the people in the gun community. What's the first thing they tell you to do? Train. Gunsave. That's all they tell you to do because it doesn't matter if you own a weapon just because you imagine that the bond is not really taken to fame. What if conservatives took that position? What if conservatives, though, what if conservatives took that position? What if conservatives, no, what if conservatives said, here's what we want to do.

Let's create training. Let's make our guys better. By the way, that's another opportunity for conservatives to get a new audience. There are a lot of groups, uh, nonprofits that are going to enter cities like Chicago and Baltimore and they're training the communities, the youth of the communities on proper gun safety, which I think is a really interesting point. But I love this quote. It was in a, it was from drivefiretrainingcards.com. Guns are designed to project kinetic force at a distance.

What you do with them is a reflection of your intent, not the intent of the gun. So we can train a million people. I fully get what you're saying with that. I get what you're saying with that, and I agree. I don't think this is a one point solution. I think it's 10 point solution. It's not only one thing that's gonna fix it all. The one at a 10 that I think is being trained.

If you're trained a little bit more, I feel better about it if you're not. The other part of it is, you know, so here's something I'm reading this book called After Steve, right, After Steve Jobs. Highly recommend everybody read this. Just, just, the book just came out, it's incredible. We're talking about it before the podcast got started.

Question for you guys, okay? So the San Bernardino shooting takes place. So the San Bernardino shooting takes place. When the San Bernardino shooting takes place, what was the biggest problem that Apple got into with San Bernardino shooting? What happened? What they unlocked the phone? Right, coming. Comey and Obama went to Apple and said what? Unlocked the damn phone.

Unlocked the damn phone. And what did Cook do? What did Tim Cook say? I can't do that. I can't do that and then they tried to really bully him And he stood up and he said no, this is a bigger thing than short term This is a long term issue that we got to address right he says I can't do that because I'm taking a privacy away from The individual that's using my software my my phone right. I'm not gonna do that They lost it. They were going to sue him all this.

So finally, they said, don't worry about it. We forgot a different way to get it. They didn't go after Apple, right? But till since then, Apple's been obviously having a challenge. And then later on, Trump comes out. Trump calls out Tim Cook non-stop. Finally, Tim Cook goes and spends time with Trump. And next thing, you know, people ask Trump, why is Tim Cook your favorite president?

For a favorite CEO? Trump's answer was what? Because he's the only one that calls me. Tim Cook is the only one that calls me. This is a first openly gay CEO that communicates with Trump about, you know, challenges they're facing as a company. But here's a question. If Facebook knows what this guy is texting and messaging, I'm throwing a

complete different curveball here. I want to get your thoughts. If Facebook knows those DMs and they know he's communicating, should Facebook report those DMs to FBI? Well, they have no problem putting flags on COVID-19 things or censoring people immediately in reporting accounts. Maybe they do have a role in that. What do you think, Tom? I think the absolute level role. I mean, if they can shut down a conservative voice, and let's talk about what it is, right?

You say something to inflammatory about vaccines or about this or about AOC. Boom, you know, your account can even be suspended. It takes a bit longer, but your tweet can be popped, like immediately. Which means that they have pulled. But is that good though? Is that the right position for them to do what they do? That's censorship, but they could use the same technology. They don't have an army of people just watching tweets.

They have technology that's reading tweets, and they can put that same technology and send a notice to that law enforcement agency and say, hey, there may be something very bad about the happen here. But what Tim Cook would say is, Tom, you're now given the government enough power to use free market companies to abuse my privacy. I got very technical here with you on this. The only reason I'm talking about this with you guys is because as we're going in this angle

of all these arguments of we should use this and we should use that, the ripple effect of how it affects other things. Like you said something earlier, you said, well, I'm concerned if we give the background check or the training or whatever, they may abuse that and what if later on somebody, girlfriend says, I think my boyfriend's gonna do something to me in a cop school

And confiscate the weapons and all that stuff that can lead to that right same ripple effect when it comes down to Hey, we have access to the DM reported to the FBI so now you're sitting there saying also Facebook is owned by the government Facebook is no longer so what is the right position in these you know anything good can be used for bad On the side of it. But one line, there's a fine line. It doesn't make me nervous, it does make me nervous. Do you remember the guy that we had the Facebook, what was the guy that we had Facebook?

Steve. No, no, but what was his job? He was a moderator. He was a moderator. And. Oh, the whistleblower. The whistleblower on Facebook that we interviewed him. I said, so I said, do you ever check, have you ever since you have access to everyone's

DMs and everyone's messages, have you ever gone and looked to see what people have said is I can't like to, I have. I said, who was it? My cousins, because I wonder if they were talking shit about me, right? So this guy who's a moderator was more concerned about it. But the point is, you deal with the slippery slope of what to do with this, right? So you may find a current solution because I would bet if I'm a Biden or if I'm any of these guys and I'm in the campaign, so say the left, all of a sudden comes on and says,

this is why the next person they could vilify here is Facebook and Instagram and Zuckerberg. That's the next villain. Because a villain is you could have done something about it because you got to blame everybody except for the administration, right? Do not be surprised if today, tomorrow, the next day, following week, if all of a sudden, somehow, someway, Zuck gets caught up in the scandal. Or, yeah. And one issue that happens, although it's horrible, but it's not like this is an everyday thing, right? That impacts the privacy of millions of Americans. And these things are, again, it's a small percentage

of when these things happen, and we're creating legislation surrounding that that's impacting Americans as a whole. Snapchat actually helped a case. It was an underage, I think sex trafficking case, where somebody was texting an underage person and they were able to alert the FBI. There are, I think there are some instances

where that's obviously appropriate, but then again, it's that fine line of the privacy of people and then who's creating that criteria. But we're already doing that now. Let's not forget that they use geolocation, geotagging, the bank accounts of all the people at January 6th and went after all those people, right? They're now labeling anybody who posts the wrong thing

on Facebook against the teacher's union parents as domestic terrorists. They're already using these for the wrong reasons. Like it's perfect to work in this fairy tale world where everybody uses things for the right reasons. But it's all political. It's a criteria. But if you're already doing that,

if you're already doing that, it's kind of like when Paul Manafort, when I'm like, listen, lobbyist or the problem in America and he says, look, what are you gonna do? The other guys are doing it. So if they're already doing that for that reason, then you have to be equal opportunity and give information

for other side as well. I would much rather them not do it at all, but if they're going to do it for one side, you've got to be equal on the other side as well. So then should they be regulated from an objective perspective? I don't think so. I honestly don't think, but at the same time, you're a fool.

You have to be naive to think that the government is not reaching out. Because think about what the phone call's gonna sound like. Do you think, what do you think are the chance of a person like this existing? You ready? Hey Mark, how are you? I'm with the FBI, but I'd like to have a private conversation

with you. Can you please open that envelope for me? Yeah, sure, you open it up. Do you see what we have here with you? We have this. We have this. I know you're happily married, and I know you're a CEO of a very powerful company, and you're one of the most powerful people in America. But if you don't move in forward, tell us what's going on with these things. This is going to be public. Do I make myself clear? Yeah. Okay. So here's what I need from you by this time.

Make sense? Moving forward, when I myself or somebody from my group context you, I need this information from you. If you don't help us, I just assume this is going to be public. Do I make myself clear? Yes. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Do you think that kind of a conversation has already happened with Mark?

Do you think a meeting like that has happened? Like what Jay Edgar Hoover and Kennedy's had back in the days. Like what the mob would Jay Edgar Hoover saying, just so you know, this is the information we have on you. Do you think that kind of a conversation has happened? What percentage do you think it is? 5%, 10%, 20%. It's probably a 20% trend.

I think it's happened. Remember, we had the opportunity to speak to, and we can say this publicly, I think, Andrew Festa. Yeah. Andy Festa, you talked about that they did exactly that. It wasn't a marital affair, but they came in and they did strong arm with his wife's taxes on a nothing item to get him to move.

And that's the way the feds work. Yeah. So if that's happening, you just have to assume that this is already taking place. And then if you are already playing that game and your company's already got as much negative reputation as they do, do keep telling the administration what you know about people that could potentially prevent the next Salvador Ramos is a Salvador Ramos's last name.

Yeah, Salvador Ramos from happening. Anyways. So, what do you think about this picture, what do you think about the Patriot Act? James Snowden, or Ed Snowden came out and said the government is tracking it. I'm not with it. Every piece, well that's essentially the same case you're making.

I know, I know I'm saying, but I'm saying, don't do it from the beginning. At all. No, because what you're doing is, what you're doing, listen, people think we're gonna live in Lala land. You're not gonna live in Lala land. Do you know what Hillary Clinton just got caught with?

Hillary, if this event didn't take place this week, you know what everybody would be talking about? The big lie. The big lie of Hillary Clinton. So what is the big lie of Hillary Clinton Hillary Clinton Hillary Clinton sitting there quietly, you know, voicing her opinion about this event yet at the same time Hillary Clinton caught on perhaps the most shocking lie of her career Washington times the head of Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign for a presidency rabbi

Mulk testified on Friday Hillary Clinton approved of an effort in the months before 2016 election to provide the press with research perpetrating to show a computer link between a company of a GOP rival, Donald Trump and a Russian bank. MOOC on Friday was testified on behalf of Michael Sosman, a high-prior democratic lawyer and accuser, accused Clinton Law, according to MOOC, he discussed it, giving dubious information to the press with Hillary as well, but I believe I disgusted with her after we kinda discussed it and made the decision. Not notionally, the discussion was, hey, we have this and we wanna share with a reporter.

She agreed to it. The prosecution claims Susman build the Clinton campaign for this piece of dubious information and the prosecution claims that it has been evidence for making this claim. So these guys are doing that nonstop to the American people. Worst and Watergate. Yeah, these guys are doing that left and right and people are sitting around saying, uh,

who's getting the, who's getting destroyed with this or manipulated with this? The professionals are doing this nonstop. All I'm saying is behind closed doors, you don't think one of her associates has had conversations with social media companies to say, hey, you better or else? Well, it's like how they always threaten the heads of the CEO companies to testify in front of Congress. Yeah. They're always pressuring them.

You have to do more. You have to stop the disinformation to send more people. And I love the fact that some of them are starting to have a backbone. I love the fact that basals is having a backbone, musk is having a backbone. Some of them are not pushing back and saying, look, enough would blame in all of us. We're sick and tired of it, bro. Do you realize we create a 450,000 jobs that you haven't created? We create it so they don't rely on the governor.

You keep bashing me here. Why don't you go create 450,000 jobs without taxpayer We're creating this economy. You're not doing it. Yeah, so It's a very dirty game. I was I was watching a documentary on the way here of Do you know what this guy? They call them the pharma bro? Yeah, Martin Screly remember the pharma bro Have you seen his documentary or no? It's worth checking out by the way farmer pro yeah, I will tell you the tweets and clips very entertaining So what did they do so this guy's going out there and drug that's cost 13 dollars is selling you for 750 and the Interview man, I say how do you feel about the fact that you have a drug that's 13 dollars and he's selling for

750 not $7.50. No, no Seven hundred five thousand percent. You know what he said is answer, you know what his answer was? I think it's still under price. I think we should still charge a little bit more than $7.50. This guy has a certified dirt bag. He is a very, very strange guy, right? But you know what they did? You know how he went to jail for seven years?

Not for what he did with the drug. He went to jail for seven years because a hedge fund used to run years ago that had nothing to do with this and he had multiple different companies where he was just kind of moving the money over from different places and taking a lot. Money laundering, tax evasion, not tax evasion. It's multiple corporations where he was moving the money, raising one place and moving to another company and then he eventually got caught with that and his lawyer couldn't win and he got seven years but the point is got out though.

Yeah, but by the way, he'd be a great guest to have. I mean, Rob, if you're listening to this, let's have him on as a guest. That'd be a great conversation to have with him. Yeah, he got two two counts of securities fraud and one count of conspiring to commit securities fraud. So sometimes when you get a little too loud, you get that knock, musk just got that knock. I think Bezos is afraid of getting that knock. He feels a little brave today,

but it's bad when people are afraid of voicing their opinion to get that knock. It's a form of censorship, and I know they call it silencing, but it's a form of censorship. And you know what it silencing, but it's a form of censorship. And you know what's the biggest freedom with that? The FBI read on James O'Keeffe, yeah, so you go on to this part.

Yeah, but so, you know, going back to what you're asking, yeah, I'm now with it. I don't support that. Our sweetheart Hillary Clinton is the master at it, but I don't support it. What was his name, her campaign manager, Lil' Gareth Glasses, Podesta. Yeah, John Podesta. Yeah, remember, he blamed Facebook for the loss. Of course, remember, but more is

coming. Remember, he did. Well, and by the way, he lost the election, he's the campaign manager. So he's going to blame the moon, the tides and and the wind. And Komi. And Komi. But they directly blamed Facebook and Zuckerberg, because Zuckerberg didn't cooperate and he was actually trying to let both sides out there. But there were a lot of bots that were going on on Facebook. The point was Facebook was actually trying to, and by the way, they're not exactly in

a white hat here, it's sort of a dark gray hat, but they did not cow-tow to it. And then you're being blamed publicly, and who was the guy that ended up in the seat, in the hearing? Mark? Yeah, remember?

Of course, all of them did, all the CEOs. Yeah. All the CEOs. But who was the one that really got barbecued? Who really got barbecued? Mark. Right. And who got the CEO's. Yeah. All the CEO's one that really got barbecue. Who really got barbecue. Mark. Right. Zuckerberg. And who got the easy questions? Google. Correct. Sundar Pinchai. But Dorsey had to take a lot of heat. If you go take a lot of Dorsey just resigned from being on the board. Right. They just

a form of almost got fired off the board. Because of defending Elon and Kanda on the what he called it the fake uh uh fake parts so uh he's so that means now Dorsey and Elon are united against the board which is awesome because they realize whatever they do will never be enough yeah yeah it's great and never be enough I got one other story I want to read if we have the time for it would we got ten forty eight uh Ray Dalio sets something here, Tom, I kind of want to get your feedback on this. First of all, crypto billionaire, I'll skip that one, I'll go to the dollar for you. So Ray Dalio, we're headed into a period like the 1970s, so by inflation hedge assets,

farmed hedge fund, a famed hedge fund manager, Ray Dalio said on Tuesday, he thinks that the global economy is headed into a period like 1970s, dominated by inflation concerns and potential stagnation. As a result, he said investors should focus on inflation hedge assets as a way to protect their portfolio during the coming turbulent times for financial markets, value expressed skepticism, amount of federal reserve's ability to tamp down inflation without triggering a recession. He argued that too much debt has been created in a short period of time for the central bank to offset without massively increasing interest rates. Even himself is saying these times are coming and he's not even holding back.

How bad are things going to be Tom the next 12 to 18 months? I think they're going to get really, really rough because I think that we could be potentially getting into a time like the full decade where the Japanese economy had to recover because our monetary policy, yes, it was about COVID, yes, it was about getting relief checks to people, but you have to remember the second trillion that went out there was over a 10-year period, correct? It was blowed out. And so it basically becomes a slush fund

for Congress for 10 years. And so basically that is irresponsible monetary policy. When you take a look at what was printed, you take a look at the debt, he's right. What all he's saying is, the economy just ate these things. It has to digest it. And there's, and it's gonna be indigestion. And it's gonna be inflation. And they're not gonna be able to tamp it. And it's going to be indigestion and it's going to be inflation and they're

not going to be able to tamp it down. He's correct on an absolutely fundamental level. And what is the alternative right now? What is slowing down the housing market? Interest rates, right? So what do you do? Do you move the interest rates back to zero? I think he's right. You cannot do that. You can't do that. No, you got to fuel the pain. So, that's what I'm saying. You ate some bad beef and you got to go through the food poisoning and it's going to take time to get it through the system. Sorry to use that visual. I apologize. But I think we're looking at the 10 years up to 10 years just like the Japanese economy had.

Tell me what do you think. If you look back 80s and 90s. You know, he said something that really stuck out to me. He said, we're in a time where ideologies and politics drive economics not the other way around. And I think obviously there's a complex issue with the Fed and monetary policy and decades of things gone awry. But I also, the political part is very important. And why we need members of Congress who are pro-growth and who understand economics. Because ultimately, it's the American

people are the ones who are going to suffer. When you have politicians that want to increase minimum wages, when you have, again, COVID lockdowns in some blue states, unconstitutional lockdowns where you're destroying small businesses. All of that stuff really does matter. And it is supply chain issues. All of this was incredibly political. And so when you have this kind of perfect storm of things, you need people who are able to bring it back.

And ultimately, again, these kitchen table issues, what Americans, when I'm on the campaign trail, they're worried about going to a restaurant and things are fifty percent marked up and then the restaurant or owner all the food all they have to raise their prices uh... groceries groceries are getting more expensive gas is getting more expensive it has become so political and radalia was so on point when he said that the economy is now being driven by ideology and politics and the way it never has. I don't disagree, folks, if you wanna find out

like how, and what gas prices are affecting, go price out the flight that you usually take, and write down the number that you pay for the flight that you usually take. Whatever flight or maybe, maybe L.A.2 Dallas, okay? Maybe New York to Miami, whatever it is that you usually take. Whatever flight or maybe, maybe L.A.2 Dallas, okay, maybe New York to Miami. Whatever it is that you usually go on and use American Airlines or, you know, JetBlue

or some of you guys who are extremely courageous, spirit or whatever you hate, right? And then go price it out today and see what the number is today. Go look at what happened today. It affects so many different industries. By the way, this article continues with another article that has to do with this one, Fox Business, US Economy

on the cusp of stack flasian world's largest hedge fund warrants. This is a complete different person. Bridgewater, so it's a Co-Chief Investment Office. Bob Prince said this week that markets have not fully absorbed the shock of what's happening in the economy. And investors are too optimistic about the path for inflation and interest rates. And stack flasian is the combination of economy stagnation and high inflation characterized

by soaring consumer prices as well as high unemployment, the phenomenon ravaged the US economy in the 70s and 80s as a spike in oil prices rising unemployment and high monetary policy pushed the consumer price index as high as 14.8 percent. In 1980, forcing Fed policy make it to raise interest rates to nearly you ready 20% and by the way To the experts who don't think that's possible They are unbelievably naive because never in the history the company have we printed money like we have right now Expect expect interest rates to go to that level. Let me give two tips I got. I wanna read one other article here that talks about

if you were the person that were too loyal to your company and you didn't go get another raise at another job, you made a mistake that's a business inside or so we'll read that, but I wanna give you a tip. If you're thinking about buying a house, this is purely my opinion. You don't have to take it, but I'm just giving it to you. If you're thinking about buying a house

and you're so excited about buying a house, if you can wait 12 to 18 months, do so. If you are so excited about buying a house that you're just like, oh my God, but I love this place. If you can somehow set aside your emotional love for that new house for 12 or 18 months, you're going to win. Here's why. The mortgage payments not going to be different. You're still going to pay the same payment you're paying today for that house because you buy the same house

18 months from now. That's probably a million dollar house today. You'll pay 724 it, but interest rates are going to be 8.5%. So your payments are going to be the same, but that $1 million house that becomes $720, it's going to go back to a $2 million house seven years from now, five years from now, except you kept that $280, and then you'll refinance what interest rates come down five to 10 years from now, and you'll pay lower payments. So if you can emotionally prevent yourself from jumping on the house that you wanna buy right now, wait 12 to 18 more months, it's probably gonna be a wise move on here.

And now people who are not gonna like me saying this are loan officers and realtors. Realtors and loan officers, I love you. I support you on what you do. Your job is to convince them that I'm wrong. I'm totally okay with that. That's how debates and arguments happen. But I'm telling you, I think I'm right.

So, when it comes onto this idea with house, but do you think, Tom, do you think it has a likelihood of getting as crazy as it was in the 70s and 80s of 14% type of things? Like, do you think it can get to a number like that? I think it has all the raw materials in here. The kindling is here that the fire could burn that hot, but I don't think it can get to a number like that? I think it has all the raw materials in here. The kindling is here that the fire could burn that hot, but I don't think it will.

You know, I think there's a lot more controls and things that banks are gonna be put in place. Oh, I don't forget to leave out Wells Fargo, the largest issuer, mortgages, United States that's upset with you right now. But, well, let me ask you a question because if Ray Dahlia was right, but when your property tax also goes down

Your property taxes when you buy that house. That's a very meaningful part of home ownership Could be a thousand bucks a month your property taxes are probably now down to six hundred and fifty six hundred Yeah, go your insurance rates are gonna go up. That's a big problem that's going on here in Miami is that all the Property insurance rates are skyrocketing, but here's my question for you because that's a change though That's not gonna change no matter Well, not according to Miami Herald. I mean, whatever. We don't need to get into the article right here. But apparently the insurance rates of skyrocketed 30% because of what though. You want me to read the article? No, what I'm trying to say is it's going to go up no matter what though. It's not going down because of whatever the current times are. You're going to pay that a year from

now. Whether you like it or not, that fee is not going away, but go ahead, make your way. Yeah, no, no, I mean, I don't wanna pull out the article right now. So if real estate's going down, stock market's going down, crypto's going down, Ray Dallio's basically saying, so buy inflation hedge assets,

and I don't know if you were using a Freudian slip right there, so here's some tips for you, are you saying, what should you invest in tips, Treasury inflation, protected securities, something like that? Where should people be putting their money? You give a great speech at the think conference. What was it called Grow Live with Video? Grow live with Video should come. Great speech. It was awesome. And you said, Hey, this is a great time where you can add an extra zero to your net worth over the next few years. Other than making more money, right?

And choosing your income producing mentality better, where should people be putting their money now? If real estate is going down, stock market is going down, crypto is going down. Where should you put it? So the average person or the person that wants to really play ball and add a bit of it. Average person.

The average person needs to, if you're inequities equities is gonna take a hit It's just it is gonna take a hit so but I don't want to give that advice because too many times when he say that Then they forget to go back in equities when the momentum is back up and they take a big hit for it So if you're not somebody that's watching your stuff let your advisor give the advice. I don't know what situation you're in But I will tell you right now, if there's ever been a perfect time to add that additional zero to your net worth,

today's the time. The next two to five years, a lot of things are gonna be on sale. A lot of things are gonna be on sale. People are saying stack cash. Even though inflation is at 8% what I do. I think opportunities are gonna go to the roof the next 12 to 18 months.

Ask why a Buffett that knows more about money than 99.9999% of the world. Why is he sitting on so much cash right now? Maybe because he knows how much things are gonna be on sale and he's gonna pick up things on sale. It's just the reality of it. Now, I do wanna transition into the insider story because this is what confused

a ton of people in America. I made a video about this three weeks ago. Here it is. Okay, look at this nonsense article that actually confuses people and millions of people took advantage of this. If you've stayed put out your company during the great resignation, you're paying a price for your loyalty inside or May 24th. Over the past year, the Red Hot Job Market has forced employers to dull out huge paychecks to lure new candidates. And that's created a deep divide between the rookies and the veterans at the companies across the U.S. labor IQ, a compensation data provider, estimates that salaries for new hires are 7% higher on average and a medium pay for people already employed in similar

positions for many in demand occupants, occupations across tech and finance. percent higher on average and a medium pay for people already employed in similar positions for many in demand occupants occupations across tech and finance. The disparity is in double digits in the great resignation of longtime employees. The ones who have stuck around through good times and bad times are paying the secret tax for their loyalty. I disagree. Here's why. Let me tell you what's about to happen for those who abused that go into their bosses insane, you know, such and such recruit, I have another opportunity to work at this company and they're going to pay me more money than you are.

And I'm going to take the job and you bullied your employer. When it comes time that the market correction takes place and Silicon Valley announces the freeze that they have now on hiring, When it comes time that you see these companies let them go of 4,000 employees, 10,000 employees, wait till you see the firing and the layoffs banks are about to announce the next three, six, 12 months, just just brace for impact. Where these big companies that gave you that bonus that you went to them, wait till they fire. You know who that employees going to call? They're going gonna call back that employer that they left and say I made a big mistake leaving. I'd love to come back

You know I went and I realized I don't want to be part of gonna create their own skittness story I realized I'm not a large corporation person But this experience made me appreciate you even more it's like when a guy leaves a girl and goes with another girl Doesn't work out and say she made me love you even more if If it wasn't for her, my love for you wouldn't have grown to the levels it has today. Are you reading my text letters just back? I love you so much. We gotta get together right now.

Oh my God, I'm so glad she trained you to love me even more, right? Whatever that may be. She takes him back. Yeah, if, exactly. If, if you were loyal during that time, if you were loyal during that time, if you were loyal during that time,

and you did what you did, that CEO, that boss of yours, values you. Believe me privately, they're sitting, they're making a list of people that they can count on and you're on it. And this may not be a bad time to have the following conversation. Here's the conversation on how to have. Hey boss, listen, I believe in what you're doing. I believe in the company. I believe in

your leadership. I just want to let you know I'm here long term. I would like to be considered for the following. I think you value loyalty. I've shown you I'm loyal to you during good and bad times. If there is a way for me to be considered for another position, high rough, let me know what I'd like to do, but I'd like to be able to fight for a race and a promotion. I don't want to go anywhere. I love the company. I want to be able to take this company to the next level. I appreciate your style of leadership. Tell me what I need to do. I'd like to have that kind of a conversation with you if you're open to it. Okay, my resume out there, but they

somehow found me and they're offering me $28,000 more. If you can't give me that raise, I will, because I want to stay with you. I want to stay with you, but if you do that, I'll stay with you. Those people who were that opportunistic and Adam, I understand those people who are opportunistic, they're not going to like life the next 12 to 24 months. It's going to be so hard because when you go all of a sudden, be paid 120 and you're not worth 120, you're an $82,000 of your person, but your lifestyle went to 120 and now the market fires you and now you got to go from 120 and there's not an $82,000 of your job that you're willing

to accept a $68,000 of your job. A bankruptcy is around the corner, a reposar on the corner and life's going to get messy and now you have to get started with a resume that's going to show over five year period, you've got five jobs and that's not a good resume because employers look at resumes to see if you stay with companies or you go resume shop and nobody like somebody that's been around the block and a job market. People don't like that. Tom.

Now you get to work from home, you're unemployed from the couch. I feel for the business owner, small business owners, medium-sized business owners right now, there's such a labor shortage in a lot of different industries. And, you know, the talent is tough to find. My sister and I have our own company. And it's incredibly difficult. And they ultimately are the ones who have to pay the price, you know?

I don't think they know which though. No, but people look at things in such a short-term way. I don't mean to throw millennials under the bus as well, but you should be paid what you're worth. But also, there's something to say about experience and staying with a company that you believe in and the long-term growth potential there then just shopping around and getting paid that

in a short-term way. You hit the nail in the head with a difference between a short-term and a long-term perspective Like I just had my 15 year anniversary at my firm, my financial firm that I work for, it's crazy, 15 years. And I've been offered jobs left and right over the last decade or so, left and right. And do I entertain the conversation? Sure. But at the end of the day, I'm very loyal, and I've built in very good Situation of my job, but I think you're absolutely right short-term. Yeah, maybe the next to 20 grand So it does sound good, but when what's when the tide rolls back out? You know your left naked whatever that is when you're if you're skinny dipping

That's what's gonna happen is essentially what you're saying out there. It's yeah I mean, but by the way, what what what was your last month? Our best month I've had in 15. Yeah, they're a great month. Yeah. Yeah. But but lunches on me guys. That's not gonna happen because of $10 you still haven't paid the guys. So that's not gonna happen. Good. Serving leaders, good business people, good CEOs, good leaders, do value good employees in that loyalty. So you're that's what people need to think about. And you think about deeper things.

And so people out there looking for a new job, go ahead and rewind the last few minutes and hear what Pat had to say, you're funny. We are hiring though, if you are looking for a job we're aggressively hiring right now. Anyways, what a great conversation. We had a great conversation, lots of different topics. If it does, we're hiring, just so you know.

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