PBD Podcast - Inflation Running Wild | PBD Podcast | EP 102

Episode Date: November 17, 2021

During the PBD Podcast episode 102 Patrick Bet-David sits down with Tom Zenner, Tom Ellsworth, and Kai Lode to talk about topics such as YouTube hiding dislike count, rent going up 40%, Disney workers... are moving to Florida, and much more! Watch the full podcast: https://youtu.be/JE6kvuU-XVc. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're officially live with episode number 102 with the Tom's, Xenner, Ellsworth and Kai. And we got a lot of topics to get into today. I think just because of what YouTube announced, I think we should test this out, because this may be the last time we can press the dislike button. So folks, just to test it out, why don't you press that dislike button? See how we can confuse the algorithms today.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Because apparently, did you hear the explanation the guy made on behalf of YouTube when they said why they're getting rid of the dislike button? Have you heard that whole conversation? No, I'm talking with harassment. Yeah, so have you guys been following this story at all? So what do you think about this old dislike button being gone? I think it's good to be honest with you. Really, you think it's good. I do and I'll tell you why because I've come on.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Well, I'm not allowed to be the only one in the PBD podcast today. Not here, not today. Not today. No, I like it because those in the P.B.D. podcast. Not here, not today. Not today. No, I like it because those mobs out there exist. You know, if they're gonna gang up on some of these smaller content creators and hammer them right into oblivion. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:00:55 What the hell is wrong with that? You can tell Tom's started making YouTube content. Listen, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. If you like the fact that they're getting rid of the dislike button, give it a thumbs up. If you hate the fact that they're getting rid of the dislike button, give it a thumbs down.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I'm actually really curious to know what the audience can say. Yeah, look at that. People do not like this. Anyways, we got a lot of stories we'll get into that. So I am in the minority here. You are in the very minority here. Yeah, I mean, minority here, living in California. That's a big minority here.
Starting point is 00:01:24 This is Texas, Florida, Florida, California, which by the way was in California just a couple of days ago. What do you think? Celebrating George, Palayo's wedding, and Daniela, which was fantastic at a great time. Great. But while I was there, we went to crustaceans, restaurant. Nice.
Starting point is 00:01:40 So we go to crustaceans, and we walk in, and the hostess says, sir, if you want to eat over here, we need your vaccination card. I said, you know, I don't like to carry my passport with me. So they said, well, you can't eat inside. You know, if you don't have your passport, you got to eat outside. So, so we'll eat outside.
Starting point is 00:01:56 So we sit outside and we eat crustaceans outside. Food is good, you own, you know, order your garlic noodles, whatever they got. So 10 minutes later, I have to use the restroom. So I pulled away, or I said, listen, I got a question for you, says, what's that? I said, since I don't have my vaccination later, I have to use the restroom. So I pulled the waiter, I said, listen, I got a question for you. Says, what's that? I said, since I don't have my vaccination card, I can't use the restroom outside.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Do I just pee on the sidewalk? What do I do? Says, no, no, no, sir, please don't do that. You can use the restroom. I said, so what do you mean I can't go inside? What are the criteria? The guy finally says, honestly, sir, we're just trying to figure this thing out.
Starting point is 00:02:21 We have no clue what to do. We just don't want to get fined. I said, listen, I respect. I'm just giving you a hard time. Plus, they have plenty of people peeing on the sidewalk I said right you would look like one of six hundred thousand people Currently every day you can set up your 10 afterwards now Republicans column the homeless the Democrats column voters, but anyway, sir
Starting point is 00:02:39 I'll tear up sidewalk getting it done. Hey, what do you think? It's column homeless. Democrats column orders exactly right. Hey, what'd think? It's column homelands, Denver Guads, column orders. Exactly right. Hey, what'd you think? What would you take away? Did you love wearing a mask everywhere? Well, I got to take a few things. Number one, we stayed at the four seasons Beverly Hills right across from Rodeo.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And they were pretty chill about the mask. Nobody was I put it on because I never put it on. So I'm just testing to see if someone's going to come and be the mask cop. No one bothered me at all. No one bothered me. I ran him to PJ Tucker. I said, PJ, let me tell you something here.
Starting point is 00:03:08 It says, I just found out you got traded away from the box. I said, I don't think the box can win without you. I can't believe they traded you to Miami, it was cracking up. Anyways, but no one bothered you with the mask. We went out and we went to different places. Nobody was bothering us with the mask a lot. So it was pretty chill.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And I didn't see as many homeless people as I did six months ago, eight months ago. They're cleaning it up a little bit. I think they're having maybe because we were in Beverly Hills after time. So you're not going to see a lot of homeless people. Plus the Super Bowl is coming in a couple of months. They got to start cleaning up a little bit. Yeah. So good.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Glad you had fun. Yeah. We did. Okay. All right. So let's go through this year. We got some stories. Big short, Michael Burry has some problems with Elon Musk's sell in the stock.
Starting point is 00:03:43 We'll talk about that Bitcoin creator, Satoshiaka more may have to unmask at a florida trial apparently this guy would be uh... one the top twenty richest people in the world worth seventy four billion dollars a little over a million bitcoins that he has himself uh... mbc's reveals the dirty little secret that people can actually afford
Starting point is 00:04:01 inflation will definitely talk about that when your rent goes up 40% as pandemic fades, many tenants see big hikes, YouTube hiding the dislike button, Disney employees beginning to relocate from California floor to because it is more business, friendly climate, Obama's economist Larry Summers slams Biden on inflation,
Starting point is 00:04:21 saying it doesn't look so transitory. Economist Larry Summers says White House misread inflation, nearly half a Democrats won a candidate, other than Biden to run in 2024. Howard Stern just made a bold prediction about Donald Trump 2024 run. Folks, this one's funny, we got a cover that one. Biden and Kamala relationship is in crisis,
Starting point is 00:04:38 as are poll ratings crashed just one year in. Andrew Como considering running for attorney general New York. Beto says he'll change Greg Abbott, and he'll challenge Greg Abbott in the race for Texas Governor 2022, DEA. This is probably one of the most important stories that they've helped pay very close attention to this because you do not want to offend people.
Starting point is 00:04:56 DEA stopped saying Mexico cartel to appease Mexico, recently retired agency officials says, I want to live. Across racial lines, policy, policing emerge as the deciding factor in elections, and I ran back militants, Storm US Embassy in Yemen, Seas Hostages, and equipment. So let's first talk about the YouTube hiding the dislike button, okay, page number four if you want to go to it. So YouTube is hiding this line counts in an effort to protect content creators from
Starting point is 00:05:23 harassment or yet, NBC story. They're making some changes to its platform, in an effort to protect content creators from harassment or yet NBC story They're making some changes to its platform in an effort to protect creators by hiding this line counts on videos on ones They the video sharing service began rolling out a new feature that keeps the counts private and only viewable to the person who uploaded the video the Actually this like button however will remain and viewers can still dislike a video to tune their personal recommendations, but only the talent sees it. The update feature was sparked by an experiment YouTube conducted earlier this year to see whether changes to the dislike button could help protect content creators and harassment dislike attacks, where viewers purposely dislike a video to drive up the content. So now here's a funny thing that people need to know about the dislike button.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Do you know this? I'm not going to ask him. I'm going to see what Tom and Tom are going to say. Do you know you know this? I'm not going to ask him. Let's see what time and time we're going to say. Do you know what is the most dislike video of all time on YouTube? Something with cats. Do you know what it is? I'm actually being serious. David, do you know you may know it?
Starting point is 00:06:12 Do you know what the most dislike video of all time is on YouTube? I know the most like the most like the most. Oh, yeah, I do. I do. It's a YouTube video. It's a YouTube rewind video. Yeah. So go back Tyler, go on YouTube, type in YouTube rewind 2018.
Starting point is 00:06:26 So the person that was representing YouTube, when they made this video, oh my God, look at that. Tyler, you are making Kai look good 2018, 2018, eight. Maybe it's the keyboard. There's four. So check that out. Okay, we cannot play, don't press on it. Go to youtube.com, go to YouTube.com instead of going that way
Starting point is 00:06:46 You just go to YouTube.com Click on it. You're good. Okay, so on YouTube right there right rewind 2018 Rewind 2018 check this out Rewind oh man, we cannot press it right so just click on it and press pause immediately Press pause immediately pause pause pause. Okay, good. So check this out. Three million likes, 19 million dislikes. And the video to introduce the dislike button got 14,000 likes and 147,000 dislikes.
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's a lot. People don't like this. A lot of people are saying it's political, some are saying it's YouTube, some are saying it's offending people, it's hurting people's feelings. I know you think this is a good idea. I do. I don't, here's the thing. I don't think it's a, some are saying it's YouTube, some are saying it's offending people, it's hurting people's feelings. I know you think this is a good idea. I do. I don't, I don't, here's the thing. I don't think it's a horrible idea.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Okay, I'm not sure if it's a good idea. I don't think it's a bad idea. Maybe you guys will convince me not to do it. By the way, some people agree with you. They say Facebook only has a like button. It doesn't have a dislike button. So some people are saying it from that end. Don't act like it won't sway some people
Starting point is 00:07:41 when they're initial impression is this video sucks, right? So I don't understand the downside to it because if you're really interested as a content creator, how many people don't like your videos, you're still gonna know. You're gonna still have access to that data. Are you open to be convinced like to be to change your mind? No, I have the most open mind.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Okay, so let me ask Alex, do you ever go to, when you go to restaurants, do you wanna know what review they get on Yelp? No, only the good ones, only the good one. Okay, now that's a good question. Okay, you and Sean that's Friday night. Sean that says babe, let's go to a new restaurant. What do you guys do? I'm not the guy that goes to y'all by pretty much know the people that on the restaurant. I'm just But I'm talking about no Yes, I will as a blanket statement, I will trust some of the reviews as an opening act, right?
Starting point is 00:08:29 Okay, so let me ask you this question. Now this one you're gonna change a little bit. Do you judge movies based on rotten tomatoes? No, okay, I agree. So for me, I'm the same. I don't agree based on rotten tomatoes, but I do follow Yelp, right? Videos, when it's this like, for me, it does a couple different things as a viewer. It gives me like, right? Videos when it's dislike, for me,
Starting point is 00:08:45 it does a couple different things as a viewer. It gives me like, I sit down, it's like, I don't know if I wanna watch this or not. You know, you got seven different videos you search and you look at it's like, oh, this guy, because sometimes what happens with videos, people put a title that doesn't, it's a clickbait and then you go spend four minutes
Starting point is 00:09:00 and they never explain the video and it's bullshit, but if I would have seen the dislike like ratio and it shows 88 likes and 700 dislikes, he's not going to answer the question because other people got upset about it as well. So I think the dislike button helps you save time. That's my opinion. If you assume that they're doing it for the right reasons, and I guess my reason for thinking that I'm against it, or I think it's a good idea not to have the dislike button, is because there are those groups that go out there and sabotage tallies.
Starting point is 00:09:26 So two sides to it, I get both. I think there's one aspect that I can kind of support or understand why they're doing it. Kielib mentioned in the chat here, and I talked to him yesterday about it, but the last two years they haven't been like, it hasn't changed the SEO on videos. So it's not an indicator of how many like dislikes you get in the back of the day, it used to kill a video now It doesn't so if it has a lot of dislikes it's whatever so at that point the button doesn't really indicate anything or
Starting point is 00:09:52 Prove on the SEO so for then for that matter. It's just there to kind of show it So that aspect of it is kind of useless at that point I Think there's two things here and the thing is, why is Google doing this? They want to prevent dislike attacks for viewers, you know, team up, and you get this onslaught of people that just want to attack a video. Well, there's two things going on. First of all, TikTok's pamphor creators and TikTok is moving.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And so YouTube has got to protect its content first. And what it's really saying is that we don't know how to stop the dislike attacks. The way the dislike attacks are stopped on Yelp, Glassdoor, you know, Google reviews is you have to log in. So they want to make sure that you're a real person, you've logged in, you've confirmed the account. So you can't just have a bunch of anonymous people on Yelp destroy a restaurant. It doesn't work or open table. So there's the mechanism that they have there. Got to have an account or you can't slam it.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Whereas what Google is saying, gosh, if these dislike attacks happen, there's perfectly good content creators that are getting hurt here. And we're also at a point where YouTube is starting to increasingly try to figure out with shorts and things like that. How do I compete with TikTok?
Starting point is 00:11:01 So I think there's a bigger thing that's underneath here where Google is saying, how do I stop dislike attacks that are seemingly kind of, you know, anonymous so that I can have some integrity to the count because I do want to know if I go on Yelp and I can't see the negatives 300 positive for a restaurant does not mean there's not 301 negative. I'm like, well, that's very neutral. Because that restaurant could have been in there for five years. And so the numbers, if you suppress it, is very deceptive.
Starting point is 00:11:31 There's a part of that that you make sense on what you're saying with a like dislike. But I just don't know. The more I think about it, I want to be able to see both sides. I want to see the like and a dislike for many different reasons. You know, somebody made a very, very good point here. They speculated that the reason why they took the dislike button off is because of Adam. Because, you know, Adam doesn't like the dislike button.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I will tell you, by the way, if people are saying if Adam is fired or not, Adam is at another convention. This is not a cat convention. Adam is in Dallas, again, by the way, is he in Dallas? I don't know where, you know, maybe he's is in Dallas, again, by the way, is he in Dallas? I don't know where, you know, Megan's not in Dallas. He's somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:12:07 He's not at a cat convention. It's a different convention. He's at, he doesn't want me to reveal it. What convention it is. It's very private. Maybe when he comes back, you'll tell us what the convention is. I mean, I know what it is, but I don't know if he... Oh, we can guess.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I don't know if he publicly wants people to know what convention it is. So we're gonna build that little bit up. It's the Men Against Dogs Foundation. See, I don't wanna say that. You took it out and he texted me. I didn't wanna say it, but it is what it is. Oh, gonna build that little bit off. It's the Men Against Dogs Foundation. See, I didn't wanna say that. You took it out and he texted me. I didn't wanna say it, but it is what it is. It's not mad.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Here's what I will tell you. Here's what I will tell you. The one part that I fully understand. So last night, two nights ago, two nights ago, I'm talking to Ticondillin, okay. It's Sunday night. I go upstairs and talking to Ticondillin and Dylan's got a voice. I really like it when Dylan sings
Starting point is 00:12:46 But Dylan doesn't want to hear me when he sings he likes to sing by himself and he was singing the other day this song That whole song right he's singing it and I'm listening to him So I go to the room I put Senna down and I go to T. Cohen Dylan. I said T. Cohen Dylan Why don't you want you want to sing? I don't want to sing daddy. I said, why not? I get you the singing coach and you work with them one-on-one. No, why not?
Starting point is 00:13:11 I have stage fright. I said, Dylan, what do you mean you have stage fright? He says, there's such a thing called stage fright that I said, there's no such a thing as stage fright. He says, Dan, I'm telling you there's such a thing as stage fright. I said, who tells you there's such a thing as stage fright? He says, Daddy, thing as stage fright. I said who tells you there's such a thing as stage fright. He says daddy there is stage fright. Then Tiko chimes and Tiko is like he's right. There is such a thing. According to statistics, there is that. Let me teach you.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Stage fright is people who get on stage and they're afraid when people look at him. I said Tiko, whoever tells you there's stage fright, they're lying to you. But daddy, I read it in a book. That book's lying. I'm telling you. Anyways, long story short, they're lying to you. But daddy, I read it in a book, that book's lying, I'm telling you. Anyways, long story short, we're talking to these kids. And I'm sitting and going back and forth with them. I said, Dylan, let me ask you a question. I said, what's your favorite song? So he says, hallelujah by pen, what is penitone?
Starting point is 00:13:56 To pen, pen to, how do you pronounce it? Penitonex, and I said it correctly or no? Penitonex, I'm like that. Is that the right way to say to bands named penitonex? I said, okay, let's listen to it. I pull up the video. I said, how many views do you think this thing's got? 640 million views.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Hallelujah. Pretty crazy. By the way, number like that. I said, how many likes do you think it's got? He says, I don't know. I said, six million likes. He says, six million likes. I said, how many people you think gave it a thumbs up.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Okay. So this is a part where YouTube makes sense. He says 74 people. So he thinks only this is the innocence of a kid because he thinks, how are you not gonna like a great song like this? And I pull up the number, the number is 174,000 people put it a thumbs up.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I tell Tiko and Dylan, 174,000, this is their reaction. Why would so many people not like it? I don't understand. I said, Tiko, Dylan, here's what you got to understand. No matter what she do, you're not going to please everybody. There's going to be a lot of people that are not going to like you. So here's a challenge with this. This is the problem I have with this. I've had multiple people that had their shows on YouTube when they came on by Iteam. And you know, it was the first thing I tell them, don't read the comments. And if you read the comments, don't take them personal.
Starting point is 00:15:06 You're a new talent, they're not used to you yet. Be patient, but I know how hard it's if you're a new talent to see the commentary that's negative. And you build that out. So for a new talent, you know, Dylan just talks, you know, the whole thing would stage fright and appear so I can see how that can kind of backfire, but it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I'd like to see the thumbs down stay here, but. Here's one thing, I don't think it's accurate data. Right, I think it can be skewed so much, so I don't think there's that many benefits from the thumbs up or thumbs down question. Are they gonna keep it as it is right now? Will that be locked, where you'll see where it is stuck in time?
Starting point is 00:15:37 Are they gonna eliminate it all together? The creator's gonna see it, but the person viewing is not gonna see it. The creator will see it, but I want to see it. That's the point. They should also delete the, remove the likes. You can't publicly see how many likes there are. Big thing is also seeing how long is the video been out.
Starting point is 00:15:55 What is the ratio? And then seeing, okay, seems to be good. It seems to be not so good. So if you're removing one, why not just remove the other and then let the creator see on the back end. Can I tell you, we did this story on VT Post last week and I was thinking about this a little bit
Starting point is 00:16:08 and I have a new philosophy in general. I'm gonna bitch less about big tech companies unless it really is affecting my life. Like a thumbs up or a thumbs down like this doesn't affect my life. The benefits that the tech companies bring to me are so strong that I'm gonna hold off unless they're listening to everything I say and someone coming out from my door, right?
Starting point is 00:16:28 So what you're saying is you're planning on running for office in California. You'd like their support in the next six months. I'm starting to be proud of it. I like it. I like it. It's a great $1.3 million donation. No, the reality of it is we need rejections. We need to get our skin to be thicker and this is making people softer and I don't support
Starting point is 00:16:44 it for that specific reason Anyways, it is what it is. We'll continue. Let's go to the next story next story is a Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto could be unmasked at Florida trial So a lot of people are talking about the specifically the cryptocurrency community so The family of a deceased man is soon his former business partner over control of their partnership's assets. In this case, the asset in question are cashier of about one million bitcoins equivalent
Starting point is 00:17:13 to about 64 to 70 billion dollars today belonging to bitcoins creator and pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. The family of the dead man says he and his business partner together were Nakamoto and thus the family is entitled to have the fortune. This is what a Florida jury will try to tackle the family of David Klineman, is suing his former business partner, 52-year-old, 51-year-old Australian programmer, Liban and London, named Craig Wright. Wright has been arguing since 2016 that he created Bitcoin, claimed dismissed by most in Bitcoin community.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Klineman's family argues that the two worked on and mine Bitcoin together and tied up Climbing's family to a half a million Bitcoins. By the way, very interesting angle to get, Sato, you should come out. I actually like the angle to force the guy to come out. You know, this story is really fascinating. And you know, there's so much money involved.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I'm surprised somebody has been killed yet, right? Cause this goes back to 2008. Somebody is holding on to that private key, right? Someone has it. You think maybe they're not coming off for that reason. You think that's why the person does one other I think this thing could be a movie. It could be a deadline episode or a date line episode or something now I do know the one person on the planet that could find the true identity of Sacramento, Sacramento, Sacramento? Yeah, that's a drink, but it's okay. Bernie Sanders, because he'll want that tax money, right?
Starting point is 00:18:30 So he can go find that person, go get the tax money out, he can shame him on Twitter. I'm the CEO, see you on the case, right? I believe that he could actually find it, but this really is a fascinating story. Who leaves that much money out there unless they're very, very patient, right? And this whole thing with a Florida, only in Florida, right? Could you find this is one of those only in Florida? It seems like a stretch, but the deep, this is a fast, if they had court TV, I'd be watching this trial on TV right now. I really would.
Starting point is 00:18:57 So I think nothing's gonna happen. I don't think, I mean, you interviewed Craig Wright. Do you think he's a touch on Okamoto? I don't know. I lean lean towards no but i don't know but i i there's a lot of people in the community there's some that say crag right there's a lot that say atom back there's a lot you know there's different names that come up on who could be satoshi and a commoto i know who robert in the office thinks it is
Starting point is 00:19:20 he thinks it's a c.a. he thinks it's the government that's behind it the government designed this is so he's thinking. And the other thing I think as well with this is, a big thing, yeah, we went to the moon in 1920, gentlemen. So it's Robert. And that's a bright guy to say something like that. It's not like Robert's not a bright guy. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:19:38 The only big thing here for me is that neither one of them have found, have the keys to the wallet. So without that, you're screwed. The private keys. Yes. And without that, you can't even get a hold of it. Exactly. So why would, if Craig Wright is him and he claims to be him,
Starting point is 00:19:55 why would he just reveal it? It's like one thing you have to do to prove it. And he can't. Well, BBC did a story with him. I think it was BBC did a story with him. Getting him ready to reveal the key and he was supposed and he couldn't do it. I don't know if you've seen the video. I haven't seen that video. If you've not seen it, it's very interesting. I'm going to show
Starting point is 00:20:10 the world that I'm the guy and it's like, oh, it's not working. I forgot. I, you know, so it's kind of a little bit awkward on what. If you listen to this, folks, who do you think, especially those of you guys are follow crypto? Who do you think Satoshi Nakamoto is? Go ahead Tom. Who do you think Satoshi Nakamoto is? Go ahead Tom. You know, I think things hide in plain sight and no one has come out to counter these guys. And so as odd as it sounds and the missing key, sometimes the simplest explanation is I come big complicated crimes. You have all the talking heads talking about crimes for weeks and weeks and weeks like the missing girl and then the guy Found in the swamp right it ends up being very simple. It's always that guy, you know, nobody to be on say the point It's a simpler story than we all
Starting point is 00:20:54 Weave it into being while we're overthinking it. I I tend to lean that it sees guys these guys run a partnership and it created because it's usually the simple answer So you do think this is the... I'm leaning this way. I'm leaning this way saying, you know what? This is very plausible that these two guys created it. These two guys created the secret pirate in the back,
Starting point is 00:21:15 you know, flying the flag against fiat currency. And, you know, that's... Okay, question for you. What's their rationale for not cashing in on any of it? Tom, he's asking you. What's what's their rationale for not cashing in on any of it? Tom, he's asking. Yeah, I got it. It's, you know, I can't, that's the part in this case. I can't get my head around. It's like, why? Why wouldn't one of them take the money and run? I mean, in this case, though, if they were partners and Craig Wright proved to have it, then he'd have to pay. Look, there's very interesting things with law.
Starting point is 00:21:47 You send me a story of a city about Vanessa Bryan, but what happened? Where she was, maybe you tell the story of what happened there. Well, she's suing LA County Sheriff's Department. Because they took photos of the crash scene when Kobe died. They looked at them, they circulated them. She's suing them, saying that it has caused her some serious traumatic damage, right? So now the county wants access to her records of any psychological exams or therapy sessions,
Starting point is 00:22:13 so they can see if it actually did cause that or if she's just saying that. So interesting. So that's the part about law, that if you file a lawsuit, the person can come and ask specific questions to validate your point that it affected you. And in this case, when this guy's coming out saying,
Starting point is 00:22:33 Satoshi is my 50-50% partner, he doesn't come out. I mean, law can almost force the sky to come out. So he's either gonna be sitting there saying, look, I don't wanna come out and give up half of $74 billion or he's gonna come out. So he's either going to be sitting there saying, look, I don't want to come out and give up half of $74 billion or he's going to come out and say, it's me. And then how is this going to change? Adam Baksad in an interview about why it's not a good idea for Satoshi to come out and why it's better for the world not to know.
Starting point is 00:23:00 The way he explained it was, it's better to not see the one person as an expert because every time something happens with that currency they're going to go to. So what do you think since you started this? What do you think since you started this? I don't think that's a good idea. I think we need to leave it alone as just a currency without a founder to that currency. That's their view on Bitcoin. I think a big thing about that too is that it's better to not have somebody who's behind
Starting point is 00:23:21 it, because then it's truly decentralized. Like, if it's a certain person, then you don't know. That's his argument. You don't know how much he owns, and if that could then totally tank the market or not. So I think a big thing there is just a matter of having it decentralized to where we don't know, and that's part of the mystery of which is a good thing,
Starting point is 00:23:37 because that gives it a little bit of trust. It's more like almost spiritual or religious, where it's like, I believe in it, I don't know who, what, why, but that's kind of what we're thinking. I was interviewed by Natalie Brunel yesterday who's a Bitcoin expert and a finance expert, kind of like a Pompliano tap per person.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Not crypto, she made it very specific. She's Bitcoin and she's what he called it, finance expert. And she had a story that went live on Twitter that went viral on Twitter, like a million views or two million views on Fox Business. She was talking about how the economy right now is favoring Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:24:10 You saw what Shemaat said just a couple of days ago, the fact that people were laughing. I mean, when Bitcoin was $200 and I told them, this thing's gonna go to the roof and you guys didn't buy into it. And now it's $60,000,000. And he said, it's gonna go to $100,000. It's gonna go to $150,000.
Starting point is 00:24:23 It's gonna go to $200,000. She's some matter of time before that happens. It's gonna happen to $150, it's gonna go to $200,000. It's a matter of time before that happens. It's gonna happen in a year, two years, three years, I don't know. But the argument of where they are is making more and more and more sense. On the Ethereum side, what's starting to make more sense is the fact that all NFTs are being purchased through Ethereum,
Starting point is 00:24:40 which means those who were not for Ethereum, if NFT takes off, that means Ethereum takes off. So the biggest question right now for an investor, if I were to ask a question, and I, you know, both sides of the argument, they give me the for an argument, here's the argument, what's Ethereum today? What is the word today? Do you know what the numbers are now?
Starting point is 00:24:57 No, no, no. I was just popping that up. I left up my phone up to it. Yeah, what is Ethereum right now? I know. Over the coin base and see the stock. It's at $4,318. Okay, so Ethereum is at $4,318. Okay, and Bitcoin is at $60,732. Right? Here's the question you got to ask yourself. What is more likely of happening? Is it more likely for Ethereum to go from $4,300 to $12,000?
Starting point is 00:25:23 Or is it more likely for Bitcoin to go from 60,000 to 200,000? What's more likely? I think they're equally likely. Exactly right. You're saying equally. So that's what the Bitcoin folks will say, that it's equally likely. Likely.
Starting point is 00:25:36 But the NFT folks will tell you Ethereum's gonna catch up to Bitcoin. That's the debate right now between the two. Yeah, this is the law of small stocks, right? You come into a stock at five, you think you're good at 15. Now you just tripled your money. Where is you going to Amazon or Apple at 250? It's got to get the 600.
Starting point is 00:25:53 So it's the law of small stocks here. It's a really good point there because you've got rarerable and open C, really controlling like 80% of the NFT market or something like that. I mean, they are the giants in the room and it's all Ethereum. And, you know, with, and what's the leading mask? The leading wallet mask? Okay, so check this out.
Starting point is 00:26:15 We got 324 lights right now and we got 95 this likes. Folks, if you're more leaning towards Bitcoin, tripling before Ethereum, put thumbs up, if you're more for Ethereum, triple link before Bitcoin, put thumbs down. I'm curious because it is becoming like a religion. It's so interesting watching the Bitcoin and the Ethereum community.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Can I say something about this story? I think it is utterly fascinating that we don't know the creator of Bitcoin. Because if you are involved in that world where you are creating a currency, you're in the finance world. You're interested in making money. You're driven by that.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And this is just sitting here. No one knows, either the person's dead, right? Or what could possibly be the motivation for us not knowing who this is? And what happens when this is $740 billion or a $200 billion or something like that? It's $74 billion right now. If we were talking about this story
Starting point is 00:27:10 at the beginning of the year, it would have been way less than that, but that's a lot of money sitting on the table. That's not gonna be the first lawsuit. And I just think this is a fascinating mystery. So you think it's a matter of time. It's a matter of time before it comes out. I think maybe,
Starting point is 00:27:24 maybe not so much the identity of a single person, but maybe more of how this was created and then we'll learn that it isn't one person possibly. By the way, it's more people voting for Bitcoin, tripling than Ethereum. Two to one is what the numbers are looking like right now. So there's a lot of Bitcoin people than Ethereum people. So maybe at least at the end of this podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Real Diaz, thank you for the $20 box, somebody, they just gave $50, said the following, which is quite interesting. He said, I'm convinced the government created Bitcoin, perfect tool for moving off the book's cash, also guaranteed to have built in cheap, totally disagree with that. Totally disagree with that.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Totally disagree with that. Because it's too hard for a government employee to keep a secret. I can see, it's not a government employee though this is like a a uh... a yet but a government employee would know of the secret would know of a somehow if you go if you go from the defense budget where i mean they can't even keep track of their money they don't know what goes
Starting point is 00:28:18 where and who has what and who has access to what and who knows about what so if anything in the government it it's some sort of military budget that's been off the books, blacklisted, where it's been spent. And then there's a, I mean, look, if they're looking to change the military, some former military member that was involved with this would talk.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I think when you create something that potentially becomes this big, enough people know about it where someone is going to say something if it's a government entity. Okay, let's go to the next story. When your rent goes up 40%, it's on page three if you want to go there. So this is a CNBC story.
Starting point is 00:28:49 When your rent goes up 40% as pandemic fades, many tenants see big hikes. As a period of discounted rents in cities comes to an end, many tenants are bracing for steep increases that could force them to leave their homes as cities begin to begin to resemble their pre-COVID-SELVES. Again, in the period of this kind of rents evaporates, many tenants are facing a similarly unpleasant reversal. Renters who originally received pandemic pricing are now experiencing steepening rent increases
Starting point is 00:29:16 at renewal, sometimes upwards of 40% of, for example, if you pay in $4,000 a month, it's gonna go to 56. That's a real number, by the way. If you're paying two grand, it's gonna go to $2,800. That $800 a car payment and a cell phone bill and maybe insurance. Yep. So, set Aliyah, Mohamed, CEO of Open EGloom,
Starting point is 00:29:34 which allows renters in New York City to review landlords. I'm amazed this is legal, while it's true that most tenants in the U.S. aren't protected by rent control policies. Some are meanwhile others are helped by requirements. They may be given certain amount of notice that was done on the rents and we'll go. All right, so 40%.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Tom, what do you think's gonna happen here? I think rents are going up, baby, because they're giving you two reasons for it. Is it inevitable? I think it's inevitable. Like, 40% inevitable? I don't know, now 40% I think is a good headline. It's a big spike, but it's going up.
Starting point is 00:30:03 If you listen to the average Joe, it's up 15%, it's up 20%. You're seeing multiple markets, people talking about it. And there's a couple issues going on here. Number one, we are so fortunate that most of the US counties, because counties control the property taxes, not the states, individual counties, do not raise the taxes on a market to market basis each year. They incrementally raise them. It's like a small raise on it. But when you commit a transaction, then that's
Starting point is 00:30:32 a new super step in the property tax. And what you've got here is people are buying rental homes highly leveraged, highly leveraged. And so as soon as we get interest rate rising on those underlying mortgages under the rental house that's pushing it up and inflation in general is pushing it up and I think the average consumer that's renting is is going to get jammed by this. This is just the tip of the iceberg 40% big headline story but this is happening. Okay Kai what do you think? I mean this is the craziest number for me is the from 57 and second quarter to 74 and third. I mean, that's a what do you mean by that? 57 and 74 attracting qualified people. He said the percentage of firms difficult attracting
Starting point is 00:31:15 qualified. Well, I'm on the wrong story. What am I doing here? Okay, but the biggest thing, biggest thing for me is in terms of that, I to Sam and for us the place we stayed would go up 400 bucks for next year Where you're at right now? Yeah, and no no no to the whole year. Yeah, okay, so the whole rant would go up 400 and Zero-vert 400 per month. No 400 total. I believe per year. Yes No, no no no per month per month. Yeah, the monthly. So that's five grand a year. Yeah, that adds up. You know, when the whole rent forgiveness thing was happening, yeah, couldn't you see this thing is, where was this going to end?
Starting point is 00:31:51 That lasted for over a year. And you know, there was a lot of landlords, I took it in the shorts in a huge way. But they were talking about mass evictions. And how, I mean, if you have any common sense, you would think that would have to happen. So what are the numbers? Apparently evictions are up 12% in September,
Starting point is 00:32:06 and they're up 25% in October over August. So they're happening, but one of the reasons they're not super terrible is they had all that federal money available, right? That they had a lot of rental assistance money, and I guess some of that is getting used now. I think I saw where 10 billion is now being used by about two million renters that have access to it,
Starting point is 00:32:23 but to use that money, you need the landlord to participate in that program with you. And I can imagine so many landlords are ticked off that these renters did not pay for a year or a year longer longer than a year. And they definitely could and they want them out regardless. So they're not going to participate and try to get these federal funds. They're going to get somebody, get them out of there, bring somebody in there, they can raise the rent a little bit. So I think this is just the beginning of this because there are real life consequences to not paying your rent for a year, right? And rolling the dice and taking that gamble.
Starting point is 00:32:58 But here's the thing. So this leads me to the story of Labor Shortage. Okay, this is a CNN story. If the Labor Shortage continues, the US economy won't be able to recover. After enhanced unemployment benefits, expired in schools, re-opening in person, many expected workers to go back to work in nation's labor shortage to ease significantly by September. But recent data suggests if anything, the shortage is getting more severe, a majority of smaller firms, 51%, say that they have job openings, they are unable to fill. The CEO confidence survey revealed that the percentage of firms citing difficulty attracting qualified people jumped from 57% in Q2 of 2021 to 74% for the first
Starting point is 00:33:37 time in decades a scenario of wage price or spiral where higher price and rising wages feed each other by the way you know what the numbers of how many people are fewer employed today than it was two years ago? You know the number? Millions. What is the numbers? Working workforce? Yes. I'm gonna say 12 million.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Seven million fewer today. Okay. That are not even going back, by the way. Seven million. No interest. And the seven million people that we're talking about, they're not buying cars, they're going to their jobs. One small thing happens that just say, I don't want to work, I go home and they're not feeling like
Starting point is 00:34:08 there's any major urgency to want to work. There is zero urgency right now to go back to work. Seven million. That's not a few. That's a lot of people right there. We just bought a building, right? There's one building that we bought and we're sitting down with a designer. And a designer comes in and the architect that said, so how long
Starting point is 00:34:25 is it going to take to get the permits? He says, that's not a problem. You're going to get 46 weeks. That's okay. Great. How long is it going to take for us to get, you know, the demo and all this stuff on the inside? He says, we'll get a GC. We'll get that done with them 46 months. Okay. Fine. It sounds good. Six six, 46, no, no, 46 months, the GC. That is for this not weeks, 46 months. also demo and build what you designed yes for the six Mons I said so what's the biggest challenge he says you ready I said yes He says do you want glass doors and glass windows in your office as it of course he says six to 12 months I said get out of here says yeah, he says are you buying?
Starting point is 00:35:01 New furniture are you bringing furniture? I said no, it's gonna be a new furniture because it's a new look with a designer. He says six to 12 months. I said, are you kidding me? He says labor shortage and supply is adding up. We can't get people to work and we can't get supplies today. People are being affected by this.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You saw the other car company. What is a car company, Tyler? I don't know if we have that as one, the series are not. GM is talking about the fact that the chips are what, but I know what General Motors reveals, heated seat option due to chip shortage, they're removing it.
Starting point is 00:35:32 What do you mean you're removing it? So the labor shortage, the chips, this has been affected in many different industries. Yeah, you know what? I read a really interesting study preparing for this story and it came out from the American Institute of Economic Research. I don't know if they have any political leanings whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:35:49 But they said that this labor shortage is not a surprise to the government. In fact, they call it mandated and subsidized. Man-dated because of the COVID shutdowns, right? You shut down the economy. This is what's gonna happen and they knew it. Subsidized means all the free money that they're giving out. So what they're basically saying is the people
Starting point is 00:36:08 that are making these decisions are anti-capitalists and it's a fact and you can look at the data because the markets correct themselves. They have a way of correcting themselves when it comes to the labor pool, right? Enough people will go out there. But it's not like these people have permanently pulled themselves out of the workforce. They don't wanna go back because they don't have to go back. will go out there. But it's not like these people have permanently pulled themselves out of the workforce.
Starting point is 00:36:25 They don't want to go back, because they don't have to go back. The job is there. You can go get $5.00 or not. And you know what they've learned? Here's what they've learned in the last year. They don't want to go back to that same job at the same pay, because they know they can get more,
Starting point is 00:36:37 or they can make more doing nothing. So the government knows exactly, this is economics 101 for governments and politicians and they know about this and this is happening because they wanted to. Simple question for you, the 7 million people that are not voting today, okay. Let's just play a simple game. Do you think these 7 million people, what percentage of them do you think are going to vote for more benefits, more money to be sent out for money?
Starting point is 00:37:02 They're going to vote left or what percentage of 7 million is going to vote right? They're going to vote 90% for where they can keep the gravy train count. What do you think? Out of the seven million, what do you think they do? We're gonna quote our friend, Sammy, 1000%. They're gonna vote for, to stay home and not do much. So the seven million who are not wanting to go back,
Starting point is 00:37:17 they're gonna vote for more of the same good stimulus checks to be sent out to them. Okay, then if that's the case, if we're talking purely strategically, it's working. Great strategy for the people on the left. It's very strategic, because you got seven million more votes.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Sure, you got votes. And you just thought about it. If you think about it. Yeah, I feel a little differently. I think you get a dive into these numbers a little bit, because I read that there was two and a half million older people that were in moderately priced jobs, is you don't earn a lot,
Starting point is 00:37:46 they're kind of retired a little early. That basically said, I'm not gonna go back to that. I got a little for the government. Now I'm about to get Social Security. Those people are very, very, they're gonna vote for the gravy train, but if the gravy train is temporal, right?
Starting point is 00:37:58 Unless it's gonna be a permanent shift to socialism, we're just gonna keep printing money and keep handing it to people which can't happen. Our structure in the US, the US economic structure will not sustain that. Then ultimately, they want low crime, they want lower taxes, they want lower inflation, and so they're going to swing that other way. I don't think the 7 million are completely uniquely what someone would say, liberally minded just
Starting point is 00:38:25 to keep voting for their check. A lot of them are, but I was reading about a sliver of these older people that were sort of retiring early and are not giving up what has been, you know, a conservative value structure. They're just kind of fed up with the, you know, the COVID mandates and everything that went with the job. And they're like, you know what, I'm retiring early. Yeah, I have so much sympathy and respect for small business owners, what they've had to endure in the last year. And now, when they can finally try to get back and they can't find workers, I can't imagine
Starting point is 00:38:52 anything more frustrating than that than having these open positions and not being able to fill them and then knowing that you can't run your business like you normally would. They're the ones, they're really the only ones that are affected, right? These small business owners. It was Duncan Donuts with the sign on there. It says, please be patient with the link to the line. If you really want to complain about it, ask for an application. Yeah, I saw that.
Starting point is 00:39:11 That's everywhere, by the way. You want to pull up an email I just sent you from World Economic Forum. Did you guys see the story by World Economic Forum that's being shared everywhere? So here's a story, Tom, of what direction we're going in. Okay. You may want to close that while you're doing that, Tyler. I send it to your value, Tim, and email. Just kind of close that and do it yourself.
Starting point is 00:39:30 So there's an article by a world economic forum that says the following. By the way, somebody reminded me of it. Who was it? Sergeant Wilkie, can you help them out to pull this article up? We don't have to go that. It's not that technical. We just have to put welcome to 2030.
Starting point is 00:39:46 If you just tap and welcome to 2030, I think the article will come up. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better. Okay, this is welcome to 2030. There you go. Go to the first one right there. Right there, right there.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Okay, actually go back, go back. Ta-da-da-da-da, I'm actually well-tda-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da guy, I gave the story about what makes America great. How do you judge the greatest country in the world? If you think about how do you judge the greatest country in the world, Tom, how do you judge the greatest country in the world? David, I'm going to come to you next. Tyler, if you haven't seen the video, I'm going to ask you as well. I think you've probably seen the video on how I presented it.
Starting point is 00:40:40 If not, I'm going to ask you as well. Folks, if you're listening to this, I'm asking you as well. Name, give me your formula for how you judge the greatest country in the world. So for example, how do you judge the greatest parent in the world? Okay? By their offspring and their offspring. How do your, how do your grandkids do? You're going to say, that guy was a good parent, right? How do you judge a great coach? We were sitting there yesterday saying, who's the greatest coach of all time? You know, Bella chicks got to be at the top and we had Landry, we had all these different guys, right? Based on what? Championships, Bill, Washington, we had a second, all this other stuff. How do
Starting point is 00:41:12 you judge the greatest country in the world? I'll throw this out there really quickly. It's the ability to do whatever you want with this little government interference as possible. I'll say that. Okay, David, how about yourself? How do you judge the greatest country in the world? Give me your formula and I want data data i don't want to be like the grass is green the flower smell better you know i want specific data what makes the country the greatest country the world how do you judge it there's uh... transparency in the government
Starting point is 00:41:39 there's honesty there's security how do you measure that you get everybody says we're the most transparent administration and none of them are with uh... facts that you can back up accurately and it reads across the board throughout political so so for you if if our country isn't shit you know it's struggling financially we're getting attacked by everybody but i tell you all our problems you define that as a greatest country in the world
Starting point is 00:42:02 well i mean all that so it's a bit of a lot of it let's keep going let's keep going tired of how do find that as the greatest country in the world. Well, I mean, all of that. So, so these are being honest, there. But by the way, let's keep going. Let's keep going. Tyler, how do you judge the greatest country in the world? Well, I saw the video on Twitter, so I don't know. So you can't say that, right? Kai, if you haven't seen the video, how do you judge the greatest country in the world?
Starting point is 00:42:19 I'd say, based on what data. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I'd say for me, it'd be in terms of having a certain set of people who, if they're willing to put in the work, they can achieve the level of financial success they want. And across the board and like how it's replicable and people can do it. So time and time over here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is what you're saying. So in other words, not Norway. Okay. I mean, Norway is a good life. It was a good life. Tom, how do you judge the greatest country in the world? I did not see the video, not Norway. Okay. I mean, Norway is a good life. It's a good life. Tom, how do you judge the greatest country in the world? I did not see the video. So this is straight.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I, the same way you judge parents. I look at the generations of people and what has happened to their standard of living. I can measure that. I can look at crime statistics. I can look at border security and invasions and say, wow, that's the greatest country in the world. They are a safe people for security for you. They have security.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Okay. And I look at each generation has opportunity to extend itself. And I look at that and over time, the American experiment is number one. So I see a lot of people commenting, Bitcoin says freedom and privacy, a great thing can says health, education, freedom and happiness. I don't know who Greg thinking is,
Starting point is 00:43:20 but thank you for that. Jesus Rodriguez, living in another country and you will find out, great point there. Anyways, here's how I judge the greatest country in the world, David. It's very simple for me. And the analogy I will use for you is in a follow-on way.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Say it's Friday night, it's 10 o'clock, okay? There is five clubs on the strip. You're 22 years old with your five buddies and girlfriends, you wanna go have a good time. You're 22 years old with your five buddies and girlfriends. You want to go have a good time. You go to the first club. How do you judge which club is popping? How?
Starting point is 00:43:51 The line at the front. Yeah, the line outside, baby. There you go. Here's a question for you. How do you judge a restaurant? It's lunchtime. The seven of us want to go eat somewhere, right? We go to the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:44:03 It's 1215 and you walk in and what do you see? It's packed. You see, what do you say? Damn, this place is popping, right? When you go to a restaurant and the most annoying thing they say is what? Can you remove that please? What's the most annoying thing they say to you? You have to wait. I'm sorry, there's a one-hour wait. In your mind, what do you say? A one-hour wait. But then what do you tell yourself? Damn. A one-hour wait. That's not what I mean. Wait, damn the one hour wait wait now that's gotta be good i want to be here i'm gonna be here in our early tomorrow exactly so to all the people who bitch about america
Starting point is 00:44:34 there is not a longer line up to a restaurant aka country then america where immigrants want to come here i don't need any other data there's no line for people wanting to go to Germany. There's no line for people wanting to go to Mexico. There's no line for people wanting to go to China. There's no line for people wanting to go to any of the country at the level of U.S. and if you pull up the United Nations number
Starting point is 00:44:58 for immigration, countries with the highest level of immigration, it's a United Nations number from last year. You will see number one country in the world. If a football game score is 48 to 10, what do you call that score? A shalacking. A blowout. Okay, take a look at the score right there.
Starting point is 00:45:13 48.2 million immigrants in US, Russia's 11th, 6th, Saudi, 10th, 8th, Germany, 10th, 2, United, UK, 8th, 4th, UAE, 8th, France, 7th, 9th, Canada, 7th, 6th, US, 48 million. Why, if, seven, I Canada, seven, six, US, 48 million. Why, if this country is so horrible, why do 48 million, nobody told them you better come to America. This is the greatest country in the world and people hate that. I spoke at the school last week and I got up on stage and I said 600 kids, second grade
Starting point is 00:45:43 two senior year, I said, I won't take take that something here before we get into anything else. Because it was Veterans Day, they had me speaking for Veterans Day, I said America is the greatest country in the world don't ever be too worried about saying anything else. So look, we can talk about what we want to talk about with us, labor shortage, oh my gosh, it's unfair, it's not fair that they're doing this, it's not fair that they're doing that. Yeah, go find a different country and go to it. But the reality of it is, 48 million people chose this over any world.
Starting point is 00:46:10 FYI, if you say it's based on population, China and India's number one. If you say it's based on land, Russia's number one. If you say, whatever you want to say based off of, people chose here. So yeah, maybe we are living in the greatest country in the world. and instead of complaining about it and changing everything about it that works that attracts others. How about we try to protect it the way it is because it's not going to get too much. By the way I was reading this book that was sent to me by Amor. It's called the Fourth Turning by William Strauss and Neil Howe. What the cycles of history tell us about America's next rendezvous with Destiny, and he explains about the fact that there's four turning.
Starting point is 00:46:51 First one is high, an upbeat era of strengthening institutions and weakening individualism. Second turning is an awakening, the passionate era of spiritual upheaval, where the civic order comes under attack from a new values regime. The third turning is an unraveling, downcast era of strengthening individualism and weakening institutions and the fourth turning is a crisis. A decisive era, secular upheaval, when the values regime propels the replacement of the old civic order with a new one. He explains something in this book.
Starting point is 00:47:19 He says, we are at a point right now that we get to choose how we react today on what's going to happen the next decade or two. If we bitch about what happened today, like remember back in the days when folks came back from Vietnam and people were spitting in soldier's faces at the airports and all these other stories that you read about and you hear about, hey, you shouldn't have gone to war. You know, you're this, you're that, and America was divided.
Starting point is 00:47:41 We can choose to be divided or we can sit there and say, listen, we may disagree, but we got one thing in common. Do we both love America? Which America do you love? Do we love the America that has to do with freedom? Why don't we protect it? What do you say? Great, let's set aside our egos and our agendas. Let's agree on one thing. America's great. Let's keep it that way. That'd be a good starting point. That's a mic drop as far as the line up to get in.
Starting point is 00:48:04 And that's before they started paying immigrants too. A couple hundred grants under the country. Yeah. You know, there's the idea of gratitude. Man, gratitude is such a tough thing to embrace. It took me a long time to embrace gratitude. You know, this whole thing that they say, parenting, you go through three phases. You know, first you idolize your father,
Starting point is 00:48:27 then you demonize your father, then you humanize your father. So the first thing is, oh my gosh, my dad is my hero, my mom is my hero. And then you get a little older, and then what do you say? I hate my dad. You guys have no clothes you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:48:41 You guys, stop kissing me, stop touching me. Stop asking me what I'm doing with my phone. And then the last phase is, freaking amen, my dad was actually not as bad as I thought he was. He was a good man. My mom was freaking amazing. You know, all this time I bitch about it. This is better than what I thought.
Starting point is 00:48:56 We're right now at the demonizing phase of America. Freaking a, we are demonizing this great country nonstop rather than humanizing this place and telling ourselves how lucky and grateful we ought to be well the loudest people are the ones that are humanized things once they're gone right or once you don't have them exactly exactly the humanizing part of America doesn't have to get their dough it doesn't have to get there no but here's the problem we give too much power to the to the loud minority we're allowing them to dictate all this and listen to this noise.
Starting point is 00:49:26 It's ridiculous. Go ahead, David. I wanna hear your thoughts. Yeah, I think, yeah, that's the scary part is that you start humanizing things once they're gone. And so, like I said, hopefully, they don't have to get to that, but will we humanize America once all our liberties are gone,
Starting point is 00:49:38 once all these beautiful things that we love about this country are gone? Good old days. Good old days. That would really be unfortunate. David, what is your your from the point being made about how you judge a country? How did you process that yourself on what I said?
Starting point is 00:49:52 I guess just trying to think of obviously the ideal, right? Just always living in the truth or the full truth. But then as I was thinking about it, I mean, that could be, like you said. So if I tell you all our terrible finances and that everything's terrible, I mean, that means we're a great country, well, no. And if you want to have a united government, my other thing was like, well, I guess then all parties would be aligned and everyone working to
Starting point is 00:50:15 the same goal. But that's not good either because there are countries like that where the whole government is aligned to one goal and it's a bad goal. And by the way, let's question this whole thing about 100% transparency. Is 100% transparency necessary? Do you really want 100% transparency? No. I don't know. I don't want to know what my parents are arguing about.
Starting point is 00:50:34 That's what I'm saying to you. My dad used to tell my mom when they would argue and they would say, listen, we can argue all day long, but the kids don't need to know about it. Correct. These guys are six, seven, eight, 10, 12 years old, and they run, they're already stressed out. You want to add more shit to their plate?
Starting point is 00:50:45 Stop it. We don't need to do that. So I'm glad there wasn't a hundred percent transparency for my parents to me. And I think this whole idea about I've had a hundred percent transparency. If you're a hundred percent transparent with your country today, that means you're also being a hundred percent transparent with your enemy today. Why does it make any sense to be a hundred percent transparent with your enemy? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I, uh, there used to be a time that I thought I was like, Hey, it's the, uh, what do you call it? It's the, uh, yeah, I, uh, look, I, we were at the wedding. Guys were asking me when we're building the insurance company.
Starting point is 00:51:16 We're growing how many challenges we had. And one of the guys, Fred Terrace and Cindy Cobos, they said, uh, man, you really kept a lot of things away from us. Like, scary things, I said, what do you want me to do? You want me to tell you about it? He says, but how did you do that? Because we thought everything was perfect. I said, that's my job. That's what I'm supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I chose to be the leader. I'm not supposed to tell you all the problems. That's why I chose to. So the leaders need to be taking that responsibility, that way to better leadership. The leader said that. That's the burden of leadership. Yeah, my run for governor and Boca Raton
Starting point is 00:51:44 didn't really go that well Thank God Boca's not a state, but you know if you ever chose to run That's why I probably didn't go to a leader he feels he's a writing candidate for mayor of Boga My campaign manager there's a lot of old people here. I don't know they're that gullible though Maybe my campaign manager was a migrant you know There's got a lot of stuff. The old American expression, you don't always wanna know how the sausage is made, right? I mean, some things that are kept secret are better.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And you know what, one more to your point, Pat. The biggest stress relief I think you can have in life, and this is some good advice I try to teach everybody that are my children this at least. If you have a life of gratitude, your life is so, if you can look at any scenario and pick out what is the better part of it as opposed to always going towards the negative, your life is going to be 75% better.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's going to be smoother, you're going to be happier, you're going to have fewer problems. Gratitude. I don't disagree. I do not disagree. OK, let's go to the next story, Disney. Page five, if you want to go there. This is a pretty interesting story
Starting point is 00:52:44 on what Disney employees are doing. Disney employees begin relocating from California to Florida, business-friendly climate. This is a Fox business story. Some of the 2000 Walt Disney company employees who are being moved from California to Florida are already eyeing up the housing market near Orlando, Disney announced in July that it would move 2000 employees
Starting point is 00:53:03 from California to Florida, and part of the Florida business-friendly climate, it's not just 2000 employees, it's not just 2000 employees. It's 2000 employees, their families and extended families. One realtor said, I also kind of panicked and was like, gosh, we don't have enough inventory as it is. More buyers coming in is going to make it very difficult to win bids for these buyers and we're trying to help. The median price of a home is far below California, sitting at 318 for Florida versus 951 in California. Could you hear that?
Starting point is 00:53:34 It's unbelievable. 318 times 951 exactly three times higher. And that's the state of California. That's not Los Angeles. That's not the latest California. You know, I'll jump out of this real quickly because I'm the only one that doesn't live in Florida. It's amazing. We go from a story where people don't want to work.
Starting point is 00:53:50 You live in Texas. Sorry Tom, it's the same thing. Go from a story where people don't want to work. It's the palm trees and the beach. To where people will leave everything and cross the entire country with their family for that job. I think this is going to be fun to do a follow-up in about a year because these are great headlines.
Starting point is 00:54:08 This is very interesting and you'll leave California, I totally get it on the business side, but it'll be interesting to see how some of these families adjust because there will be culture shock involved in some of these moves for people. If you lived in California your whole life and you moved to Florida, it's gonna take an adjustment. It's different, right?
Starting point is 00:54:24 The weather's different. The ocean is on the opposite side of what you're to take an adjustment. It's different, right? The weather's different. The ocean is on the opposite side of what you're used to. I find that just weird, right? You go to the ocean, you always assume you're going west. I bet that took you a little while too. In California, now here, it's the exact opposite. Interesting. You know, I find that, you know, that's how I figure out my directions.
Starting point is 00:54:38 If I'm going towards the ocean, I know North is that way. I gotta admit, I haven't thought of that one. That was pretty cool though. But the other thing too, I mean, there's just so many aspects of your life, if you're a sports fan, how do you get used to the game starting that much later? You're used to watching an NFL game starting at six o'clock in prime time or five, 30,
Starting point is 00:54:53 and now you're not going to bed till 1 a.m. if you want to stay to the end of it. So it's interesting. Totally makes sense. These companies are doing it. It'll be interesting to see what type of toll or what kind of effects this has on people that have made this move.
Starting point is 00:55:05 It might be all worth it because of the cost of, you can get such a bigger house. Your life can change instantly. And you know what, we know it. Sean and I had to go to Arizona on Friday. You just feel different when you go into a state like Arizona or you go to Texas or you go to Florida like I do every week or you go to California for a day.
Starting point is 00:55:21 There's differences. When you can walk into a place of business and not think, did I bring my mask? It's a totally different world. I mean, seriously, you panic in California. I don't have my mask. What do I do? Oh my God, I don't have it.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Can I pull my shirt up over my face with that work? You know, they're getting a little bit lax because I think store owners and business owners are sick of it as well. But it's just different when you come out here. It's freedom. It feels wonderful. Look, I love this story because I remember when Bob I grew talked about the fact that they had to let go of 78,000 employees in California.
Starting point is 00:55:52 And he was a guy that was sitting on NewSums board, helping them out. Right. And then he resigned. He says, look, I'm not playing this game with you because you're hurting all these families here while the businesses around this new world were doing okay because they were still open. People could still go there. And then fast forward 12 months later 16 months later
Starting point is 00:56:07 Florida the Sanctus was seen as an irresponsible governor now their COVID the Cases are lower than the stated California who's like the responsible state so this is not a good look for California This is a great look for Florida, but I will tell you behind closed doors a lot of Floridians Don't want people from California to come here. And that's straight up. They do not have lines. I don't believe it. People from California come to Florida.
Starting point is 00:56:30 There's a bigger story underneath this. Right now the headline is 2000 people are going to drive up the price of housing. So they're selling an expensive house coming to Florida. They're going to be able to bid higher. And you know, our, and the realtor is saying, am I even going to be able to help you? The bigger story here is that Disney is very quietly moved 2,000 people from the Walt Disney company and these weren't theme park workers. And they have moved an operation.
Starting point is 00:56:53 It's not about the 2000 or the there now. It's about the next thousand that they're going to be hiring in the next five years. And Disney is saying that Florida is a better business climate and I'm moving a massive division to Florida. And they're probably going to get a little bit of wage moderation and regulation moderation definitely versus California. The bigger story is the mouse doesn't want to say out loud that they're leaving California and they're very happy to have the narrative be about this migration of people and stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:22 But the mouse is moving to the division to Florida because they think it's a better place to do business. And just like Texas, when Toyota move all those people from Hawthorne, California to Dallas, Texas, a lot of Texas citizens were like, okay, so we get a lot of blue people coming here, slowly tinting us on the vote toward Lavender and they're not looking for that. But Toyota did it for economic reasons too.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Nobody wants to go out and criticize the state of California and public, but there are businesses that continue to move out, big businesses, who try to show this nice rainbow flag, and we're okay with everybody, everything's cool, it's all here, yay, and donate politically and stuff, while very quietly and economically moving. Yeah, I think of the decision making involved
Starting point is 00:58:04 in moving 2,000 people. That's a lot of logistics. And I will say this about Disney. When that initial release came out where they said they're moving these 2,000 workers, they did say that the California business climate is way less attractive than Florida. They did call them out a little bit. So I think to a certain extent, they're not afraid of saying it now. If you're going to make that big of a decision to move,
Starting point is 00:58:23 I mean, I think everybody knows why, and it's okay to say it. All right, let's talk about this. I'm just waiting for in and out to move to Florida. I've already made my commitment to in and out. If they come here, I will buy one franchise from them, even though they don't do it anymore. I will gladly buy one from them.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Hey, you know what, just, I think this office will keep you in business. Pat, that was a novelty story initially, but I think it's got like some real legs. I mean, if the actual CEO is talking to the governor of state of California, state of Florida, it's more than just, you know, it's not just like a publicity stunt.
Starting point is 00:58:56 David got a shout out. Yeah, and the governor mayor, David, is emperor. Now that's a perfect country. Sharmer, Sharmer right there. Okay, NBC reveals dirty little secret. Charmer, right there. Okay. NBC reveals dirty little secret. People can't afford inflation just fine. This is a news buster story.
Starting point is 00:59:11 According to NBC Business Corp. Stephanie Rule on Sunday today, the dirty little secret is that American public can't afford inflation just fine and they're just belacian get, belly aching get. But you just might have to sell your home or tap your 401k to survive the winner And the dirty little secret here while nobody likes to pay more on average We have the money to do so she declared for those who own their homes and value their own homes are up
Starting point is 00:59:36 And while the stock market isn't the economy you have over half of American households with some investments in a market and the market has hit a record highs You have over half of American households with some investments in the market and the market has hit a record highs. But those aren't the most liquid of assets. So is rules advised for people to sell their homes and take out a loan so they can afford to eat? What about the people who rent? What about those who rent and were relying on a victim or aatorium? Can you imagine the snobby message from this Stephanie Roles saying, look, you can't afford
Starting point is 01:00:02 it. Stop bitching that inflation is affecting you. Here's what's so crazy. Here's what's so crazy. A guy said the other day, he says, look, you can't afford it, stop bitching that inflation is affecting you. Here's what's so crazy. Here's what's so crazy. A guy said the other day, he says, Pat, you have money. Why are you complaining about gas prices? I said, do you think gas prices affect me personally? No.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Do you think inflation affects me personally? No. No matter of fact, do you think inflation has helped me or hurt me? Help you. It's helped me tremendously. Who do you think inflation gas prices hurts the most? Low in middle income.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Low in middle income. So the same people. The 5,000 jobs you made. So the same with your companies. So the same people, the same people who claim they care for the little guy, the low income, middle income families are going up there saying, stop complaining. You can afford inflation.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Go spend the money on gas and go shopping. Do you realize the level of hypocrisy when it comes down to the conversations of inflation? Go ahead Tom. So let's say this was business roundtable, guest Patrick Bettevid, conservative capitalist from Florida. What was it you that just said the exact same thing she said?
Starting point is 01:01:07 What would be the reaction? From Bernie Sanders all the way down, oh my goodness. Listen to this guy, he doesn't give a damn about the worker. It's a double standard, this is horrifying. When I read this, I was like, where is the outrage? Where is the outrage? If Jeff Bezos, who's not necessarily conservative, came out and said this, they'll, oh, there,
Starting point is 01:01:26 here it is, this guy, you know, Surfson Lords, here he is, out there squeezing a little people, yet a talking, a liberal talking head is allowed to say this. Never mind that it's logically bankrupt, that you will continue to sell all of your assets till you're down to zero until you get through a nuclear winner that you don't know how long it's going to be. The double said this thing was just
Starting point is 01:01:47 horrifying to me. It's a double standard. It's wrong-headed logic. And if anybody else said that, they'd be crucified. Anybody surprised though? Well, no. You surprised. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. But you know, I'm not surprised, but I was shocked in that I was not surprised. I was not surprised, but I was shocked in that I was not surprised, but I was the same shocked. Got it. Makes sense, go ahead Tom. Well, I don't know if it's this chair, this microphone,
Starting point is 01:02:11 but I'm not as offended with her statement as you guys are. I don't know if it's Adam channeling me through this microphone or what, I will say this, I am maybe not quite as offended by the statement. For one reason, she's a TV personality. Maybe she, look what she did. I know her name now. I didn't know it before now I don't know if she was doing it for that reason, but I also will say this
Starting point is 01:02:32 I think everybody speaks from a level of perspective and and pat I think her perspective is I make a pretty damn good salary as an NBC correspondent It's not affecting me yet. So I'm speaking from that perspective I don't know if this was an overarching commentary of how it affects all of America, but just to take a little bit different side here, I can see where she's coming from a little bit, but it hasn't hit her big yet because right now, prices across the border are 6% higher than they were a year ago. That number is going to go higher and it's going to cross many, many more categories.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Listen. Then it already is. It's interesting you're saying that. I remember running is gonna go higher and it's gonna cross many, many more categories. Listen, it already is. It's interesting you're saying that. I remember running a sales office, and one day I look up, I'm 25, 26 years old, 95% of all my sales guys were under the age of 25, okay? They were all hooking up with each other. I would come on Sundays, no joke, on my office and on Sundays,
Starting point is 01:03:21 they're on the floor having sex, on my sales office. That's how crazy the sales office was. Now I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm like listen go go to a do from place and they would say look we don't have a different place. I said do you finish up I'll come back in. I'd give him 10 minutes I'll come back. I'm telling you true story. And then here's what I realized.
Starting point is 01:03:36 These 20 rolls these 21 year olds were broke. They didn't have a market. Everybody else they knew we're going to clubs. They were rolling. They were doing ecstasy. They were talking about what's the best G2U's and all this other crap. And one day I'm like, I'm done. Don't give me a phone number for another person that's 21 years old.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I only want to call clients or people who are interested in doing business that are above 25 years old, married with kids. So watch what I did. As a single person, sometimes when we talk about kids, what do single people typically do? I don't care. Why? I got kids. I don't think about what they just about kids, what do single people typically do? I don't care. Why? I got a kid. I don't think about what it's to have kids, right?
Starting point is 01:04:08 But I realized the reason why everybody in my office was single was because I only knew the life of a person who was what. Single. So I said, wait a minute, if you want to truly be able to get a clientele that's making money that's married with kids, you have to understand what it is to be married with kids and the pains that parents go through, right?
Starting point is 01:04:32 So this girl that's talking about this inflation deal that everybody else can go suck it up and do whatever they're doing, she's not putting herself in the situation of a single mother right now with two kids trying to do her best to work in homeschool in a state of California and trying to make the whole thing happen. And this kid is having to go through this the last 18 months. All she's thinking about is the people she's around all the time. So no, I don't understand her rhetoric that she's got. She's living in a different world. She completely out of that.
Starting point is 01:04:57 But that is the whole thing like that. That is the whole thing about rich people that lost perspective of what it was wants to be a low income in middle America. If you can't connect with them, you lose. Try a social experiment. Go live on their way for a month and then complain about it. It's an insult. If I'm somebody that's making 28 bucks an hour and I'm trying to do my best to support my husband, my wife, my kids, I'm offended by her comments. That's all it is. I'm not offended by it. It doesn't do nothing to me. Zero. I am not at all directly impacted by this, but I know tens of millions of families
Starting point is 01:05:28 who are. And I think Tom had a great point in terms of if this was a person on the Republican side or a rich person got for bed that said something like this, then they'd be like, oh, you're just saying because you're this or that, they'd be totally railing against it as opposed to just being, oh, oh well I guess it is what it is. Yeah listen when you lose perspective you no longer connect with people. Bush senior went through it, where the lady asked him a question about the fact that hey how does it affect you and then he gave an answer saying you don't think it affects me and then Clinton came in and says let me tell you what we do in the state of Arkansas
Starting point is 01:05:59 and he won and he was right because Bush lost perspective on how to connect with families that are struggling with this. The moment you can't do that, you're done with. But the ironic thing about this is the audience for her is a left leaning voting. I know. And those are the people that are suffering the most. Right? And they're the ones that are at least offended probably by this because they're used to having this rhetoric thrown at them. The classic limousine liberal.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Right. Okay, so let's go to the next story here that we got uh... you want to do the economy's larry summers first let's do that obama's economist larry summer slams biden uninflation saying it doesn't look so transitory paid six if you want to go there uh... let me see over here okay so here we go uh... uh... larry summers who was a secretary treas of Treasury under Clinton and directed the National Economic Council on the Obama
Starting point is 01:06:47 said on CNN that inflation is going to be unavoidable for the near future. I think the odds are that we're going to have inflation of a kind we haven't seen in 30 years, which already happened. Until either the Fed takes some significant move with respect to monetary policy, which I think what he's saying is increasing rates, or until there is some kind of accident that disrupts the economic growth we are enjoying. What is he talking about? Summers continued by pointing out that he thinks the Biden administration is acting incorrectly and making a situation worse. I think the Fed has made a significant mistake in the approach that is, it's taken by doubling
Starting point is 01:07:21 down on massive fiscal stimulus. We had at the beginning of the year and really easy monetary policy. Let me read this one more time from the Obama camp. I won't read this one more time folks if you're listening to this. The Obama camp, you ready? I think the Fed has made a significant mistake on the approach. It's taking by doubling down on massive fiscal stimulus. Huh. So he's saying stimulus is not a good thing. A massive fiscal stimulus. We had at the beginning of the year
Starting point is 01:07:50 and would really easy monetary policy. Aren't they trying to push the next $2,340,000? The $1.75. Yeah, they're trying to push the next one. They want more than $1.75. But okay, so what are your thoughts about what he's saying here with inflation? Tom, I'm gonna go to your first.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Yeah, it just, I mean, when you look at where the source is and that's the most on that's the thing It's the most unbelievable thing and then I'm looking down the road because I don't know how you can argue against inflation right now It is coming it is coming in a much much bigger way. We've only seen the beginning of it What is this gonna do to them next year or in the 2022 elections, right, the midterm? So just seeing this bickering when they're, but this is just common sense. You cannot argue against it. And I think for his credibility, he can't say anything but this because it makes sense. I think though, that's why they're not pushing for it, though. It's the 2022 midterm election that if they increase the rates before then, things are
Starting point is 01:08:42 going to slow down. That's going to be worse. So my guess would be they're banking on Rather let it roll through the midterm elections and then kind of do damage control in the back end as opposed to try to Limit it on the front end. So so here's here's a so can we all agree that the face of the Democratic Party is still Obama? Mm-hmm. Would you agree? Who would you say the face of Democratic Party? He's still popular. Yes, but would you say say his the face like what he says everybody follows the might let me just throw some names out there you tell me no he's the if
Starting point is 01:09:08 huttin of the i'm saying party okay cool so if he is the if huttin and he's the voice do you think behind closed doors a serious question folks i'm curious to know what you say about this serious question because i had a big debate with a conservative the other day he wasn't too happy about my position on obama k where where I feel Obama is today. Here's a question with Obama. How often do you think Obama and Biden speak today?
Starting point is 01:09:31 Pretty regularly. I'm going to say infrequently. I'm going to say not that frequently. You're saying pretty regularly. That would be my guess. Tell me what pretty regularly means. I'd say on a weekly basis. Once a week.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Tom, you agree with that? Sorry, I hell no. Tom, you agree with that? Sorry, okay. Hell no. Yeah, I don't think he's looking for advice from Biden at all. You think it's every day. Really hell no. So you're saying how often.
Starting point is 01:09:52 So how often do you think him and Obama speak? Christmas and birthdays. Really? You're going there. I don't think what do you think? Do I think Obama's speaking to a lot of the people in the circle? I agree with that.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Okay, so what do you think? I think politically Obama's trying to distance himself from joe biden so i think very very infrequently very very infrequently okay so okay if that's the case do you think obama's sitting here himself saying look i don't want my legacy to be tied to joe because i think joe's about to go to the gutter and i don't want them to say, my policies did this
Starting point is 01:10:26 because if Biden goes to the gutter and everybody says, and Joe says, I'm just following all the policies that Obama had and Obama's gonna back with him and you gotta stop saying that because I don't want my policies to be your policies because your policies are really hurting everything that's going on right now in America. I don't want to associate myself with you with this by the way
Starting point is 01:10:46 uh... our body here to my rights got a low rider i don't know you know sea level shrunk or there's some of this chair global warming no i think there's something there's something here that's very interesting warming up the globe go ahead looks like two globes. But anyway, you've got in the Obama administration, Summers and Geithner did a really good job of taking the handoff from Bush. Yeah. The economy didn't go off the cliff. They had 0809, they had things to deal with, they had tarp, and I thought they did a really
Starting point is 01:11:25 good job of preventing just carnage on the financial side in the recovery stage. And O-9 and 10 were great on the recovery stage after the crash of O-8. And I think these guys are sensible, really sensible. And I think they're also thinking about their legacy. And I think in the Democratic Party, there's a bunch of things moving. I think they don't want Joe to run again next time. I think they want to absolute castrate any opportunity
Starting point is 01:11:53 that there is for that. And I think that Obama doesn't want his legacy to be tarnished. And I honestly think that summers and guillotine are really one, and summer's speaking here. But remember, Tim was always right next to him. I think they really want things to be better, and I think he's pointing out, look guys, you can't go further, you can't, and if there is, you say that you're just waiting because you want to, you know, wait to do something for the economy, so you don't get accused of
Starting point is 01:12:21 making a mistake going into the midterm, I think you guys are making a mistake with that action. And I think it's as simple as that. And I think Larry is unafraid to speak. I don't think it's a hit piece. I don't think he's been unleashed to go after him. I think he's out there saying, hey, I did this job. I was here in the middle of a crisis, guys. I did not have eight years of peace in my spare.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Do you think Obama is moving further and further and further to the right? You think every since Obama, from day one of Obama taking presidency to today, do you think gradually he's moving a little bit more to the center? I'm asking a question. It's either yes or no. I'm saying not necessarily. I don't believe that. I think so, but you don't think necessarily.
Starting point is 01:13:03 No. I really do. Okay, but what is the upside for him even commenting right now? Did somebody reach out? This is strategic. He did this for a reason. And this is less than one year into Biden's term. I really take, go there.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Okay, what is, what is, what is he taking it? I think Obama is disassociating himself with Biden to the point where he's going to dictate who runs next. So this is not a coincidence. This gets out there for a reason. Obama's still young. He's still very, very relevant, right?
Starting point is 01:13:31 He might be the wizard of Oz pulling all the strings in the background. Who knows? And I'm trying to think who would be his hand picked? Is it Michelle? I don't know. Well, that's what I'm talking about. I think they're trying to castrate it.
Starting point is 01:13:41 They said it was transitory. Doesn't look so transitory. They're wrong. That's what he's saying. You're wrong. They said it was transitory doesn't look so transitory they're wrong that's what he's saying you're wrong they said it was a few specific factors doesn't look to be a few specific factors he's saying again they're wrong so how many times can he say in a very polite political statement they're wrong they're wrong they're wrong it sounds like a Republican saying that that's exactly right it's so bizarre it would be more
Starting point is 01:14:03 inflammatory if it was coming from the pure and this is his guy this guy he campaign for so so so again going back to the question do you think he's moving to the center i think so i think he's more to the center more towards the center i think obama o eight put on a persona that was more liberal than he really was do you think obama all eight come back do you think ob? I think it's come back. Do you think Obama, O8, is AOC 2021? Or do you think Obama, O8, is Bill Clinton, 1996? I'm hoping it's Clinton.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Clinton ran to the center. I think Obama, O8, he was a little more, he was a little more left. Obama care, all that stuff, for the health care right? What I'm going to promise to you and all this. But I think that he's been unmapped as a far more of a moderate. Yeah, I mean, that happens when you make $50 million.
Starting point is 01:14:51 I'm not expecting a lot of things. Right, right. When you get a tax bill into the year, that you got to pay $6.8 million, you look at Michelle and you say, you know what babe, this year, listen, maybe we got to make that phone call to Larry to say, listen, we ain't going to $40.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Yeah, that's a good point. You know, Pat, a good way to judge it is. Michelle, you got my own phone. Got my old phone. Give me the, Michelle, give me a sail and get me my old phone. Who's got my power supply? I gotta call the IRS. Do I have the IRS on speed? Let's see who he backs. Let's see who he campaigns for in 2022. If he's out there for AOC in Omar and some of these others, because I don't think he'll do that. I agree. I don't think he'll be out there. No, I don't think he'd be out there. That would ruin for him. That some of these others because I don't think you'll do I agree I don't think you'll be out. I don't think he that would ruin for him That would ruin I don't think the listen Bernie AOC is a very smart guy He is a very very smart guy
Starting point is 01:15:33 Whether you like him agree with them. It doesn't matter. You have to respect an opponent That guy's a very very smart guy and he knows what he's doing He's a he's a your next 15 moves type of guy Knowing what he's got going on Anyway, so here's the next one here nearly half of Democrats want to candidate other than Biden to run in 2024 a poll Reveals this is page seven interesting. Let's take a look at this. You where this goes By the way, how many guys are Democrats who are watching this who are comfortable Comenting that yes as a them who voted for Biden,
Starting point is 01:16:06 I would like somebody else to run in 2024, then Biden. If yes, comment, if you are, don't put it if you're not, just if yes, comment, I'm curious, or you'd like him to stay and tell us why. So here we go, nearly half a Democrats want to candidate other than Biden to run in 2024. This is a New York Times story. This is not a New York Post.
Starting point is 01:16:24 This is a New York Times. Over 40% of Democrats believe their party will have a better chance to run in 2024. This is a New York Times story. This is not a New York Post. This is a New York Times. Over 40% of Democrats believe their party will have a better chance of winning in 2024. President Biden has replaced at the top of the ticket according to Paul released on Monday, 44% of Democrats and Democrat leaning in the pen and want other candidates on the ballot. 36% want to keep Biden and 20% aren't sure a
Starting point is 01:16:41 Marist national poll found among Republicans and GOP leaning in a penance 50% belief former president Donald Trump gives them the best chance of retaking the White House. 35% would opt for someone else and 14% don't know. Just 44% Americans approve of Joe Biden's doing while 49% disapprove thoughts. Okay, here's the scary part. This is a loaded question. What is the alternative? Right? There could be a worse alternative than Joe Biden. You mean Kamala? Yes, I do. And maybe somebody else, but primarily her.
Starting point is 01:17:08 So, they're definitely, Joe Biden would look really good to me if it was Kamala Harris as the alternative. So this is interesting. I think people are disgraced by some of his actions. He's not acting like a president. They don't even know how much he's capable of doing on a day-to-day basis. So I can understand the Democrats wanting somebody else in that poll, or running in 2024,
Starting point is 01:17:30 but who could it possibly be? And if it's Kamala, that's a scarier thought. I guess I got a list here on this website. They have Noosam as a potential, the top. Okay. They have Michael Bennett as a potential centered from Colorado. They have AOC, they have Kamala Harris They have Nina Turner, they have Howard Schultz again. They have Mark Cuban who could Corey Booker
Starting point is 01:17:54 Pete Buttichich and then you got some of the other Cuomo's and all these other guys, you know Gretchen with my you know Same same name. So who could potentially win 2024 outside of Biden? Well, first of all, I think they're going to break ranks. Cory Booker wanted it so badly. He wanted to be VP so badly. And he was just disgusted that he lost. I mean, he was really not a team player when the VP selection came and he wanted to be that guy. So I think they're going to break ranks. And I like Cory Booker is going to run. So there's a few of these that are going to go that still have good support and are coming from a position that they're not to this word politically volatile. And Cory Booker is not so incredibly politically
Starting point is 01:18:37 volatile. He's going to get his support. I think he's going to go. And I discount the Howard Schultz's. discount the mark cubans sort of vanity picks a populist picks but i think they're gonna break ranks and i don't think that this is going to be the central party the democrat party is going to be able to select what they want to do now i don't think that comaheir is just going to be able to get support i think she's a non-starter she i mean come on as more disprovaled and then by the does. So I don't think that, I'm not worried about that aspect. But the other thing is, when you're saying there's not a lot of people, I mean, think about
Starting point is 01:19:10 two years ago, was the sentence a name two years ago, there's still two and a half, two years to go until they're running. There's a lot of time for somebody to step up to make some speech to rise like a shooting star. I mean, look at Komu, how fast he was a shooting star and then went straight to Obama. Nobody knew who he was. So that aspect, I mean, there's a lot of time where they can find somebody who can create
Starting point is 01:19:30 in a situation like that on that. They don't have a deep bench today. So it's gonna be a draft pick, guys, what you're saying. Exactly. It's a tough thing. So let me ask you, how often does a draft pick like Obama come and win a championship for you? Superbowl, you think there's a Mahomes out there,
Starting point is 01:19:44 you think there's an Obama out there's tough to kind of lean on, somebody like that to come out. To bet on that is a risky strategy. So let me ask you one is the next DNC, one is the next convention they're gonna be having. Is it the one in 03? One is the next convention that the, that'll be the year, the actual election.
Starting point is 01:20:00 So that's pretty scary because they need something next year. Like the Democrats need to create their own big convention next year. Call it whatever you want to call it. Have a lineup of speakers come for two or three days and see if one pops with an audience and say, that may be our guy. Well, they have two problems. They've got the midterm problem. We know what's going on there.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Is that it? How bad do you think it's going to be? We haven't asked you yet. How about you? I think it's going to be very bad. I think the midterm is going to be a big swing I think it's going to be like the you know remember the Obama swing the first term 63 that's right not one republican incumbent lost and what was it 12 republican rookies were elected it was horrifying yeah so I think the midterms could be that bad or even worse. That's the first problem.
Starting point is 01:20:46 And then the second problem is how do we unify our party? And what do we unify around? Because we're not Trump. And we can fix the economy, both are unavailable. Okay. By the Biden one, because what? I'm not Trump. Good. I think people just keep discounting Michelle Obama. I mean, 2024, DeSantis isn't gonna run. He's already announced. Trump is gonna run in 2024. DeSantis said he ain't running. Right.
Starting point is 01:21:13 He's running for re-election of governor in Florida in 2022. So he's not gonna run in 2024. No, but he has to say that if he's running for governor next year. Because he can always leave. Yeah, I mean, he can always go for a against. Like, why would you vote for him then if two years later he's gonna bounce or and he's gonna get one of his people in there when he always leave. Yeah, I mean, I can always I would like you why would why would you vote from then if the two years later is gonna bounce or and He's got to get one of his people in their way. He does. Yeah Interesting, Bishop and just gave five bucks and he said I voted for Biden in 2020
Starting point is 01:21:34 But I want a younger candidate in 2024 the Santhus is interesting if the Dems can't find a good candidate good for you Yeah, very reasonable good for you Okay, next story we got Howard Stern about I'm going to read what Trump said, what Trump's poll are looking like today, which is very interesting to see Trump's poll this way. Donald Trump beats Joe Biden in latest 2024 election poll and know this is not Fox or New York Post, this is Newsweek, okay.
Starting point is 01:21:57 The poll released Friday by Emerson College shows Trump narrowly beating Biden in a hypothetical matchup while neither Trump nor Biden is backed by the majority of the voters, the former president is currently two points ahead of the current president. Trump is supported by 45% of registered voters, while Biden is backed by only 43%. Meanwhile, 11% of registered voters said they want to vote for someone else, and just 1% said they remain undecided. Emerson's polling also shows that Biden's approval rating continues to dip while his
Starting point is 01:22:24 disapproval rating surges upward in September was 46% of registered voters approved their Biden 47% disapprove. Now, outset of November, he's at 41%. Wow. Said they approve of the president while 50% chimed in their disapproval and it's not looking too good. So Trump, Trump being the guy that loves polls, he probably loves that. Oh yeah. Back, can I say something? You go for it. This feels like, uh, you break up with your girlfriend and you find a new one and then
Starting point is 01:22:51 you find the new one. Is it any better? And you're like, I'm just a lost one. And then you just end up with the last one. And then it's just back and forth. Do you want to talk about it? Bad. I missed or something.
Starting point is 01:23:03 That's exactly what it sounds like. It's just like the grass is a greener. Like I tried it. And by the way, the 11% they want to vote for someone else when they walk into that voting booth, they're going to vote for Jackson or Benjamin. You know, they're on the 20, they're on the 100. They're going to vote with their wallet
Starting point is 01:23:18 when they walk into that voting booth. And they're probably going to break more for Trump, but they don't want to say it out loud, but they're going to vote with their wallet. I think there's one thing here though, that you have disapproval numbers, but I also have hate numbers. People are viciously opposed to certain people,
Starting point is 01:23:31 and especially when it comes to either Biden or Trump, that there's people who are very against. Like with, and say it's a Biden Trump run again, it's more of the question of, who do you not want more, and that's who they're gonna vote against. So I think a big of the question of, who do you not want more? And that's who they're gonna vote against. So I think a big thing as well is, there's who would you vote for,
Starting point is 01:23:49 but then there's also who would you vote against? Because a big thing as well is, the people who wouldn't vote. Like if I don't care, then you don't vote. But you need to get those people to either hate the person or to like them enough to vote. And that's more where- It's interesting.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Robert Sheridan just gave 10 bucks and he said, Dems got caught With their pants down in 2016. They will never let someone like Trump win again Do you think he's right? I don't yes, but I don't think Trump's running. I'm gonna stand by that I don't think it'll be Biden You know you never talk about my great predictions. And I make a lot of them. A lot of them. A very high percentage of them.
Starting point is 01:24:29 We're looking forward to hearing one. That's a great thing. Many of them. I'll give you a whole next time. I'm gonna bring a list next time. You should. It's so easy to take shots at me. Okay, I'm hanging on.
Starting point is 01:24:38 I'm bold. And fearless. Hang on, I got my wallet. First I want the odds and then I want to know how I can bet. Okay, well let me just not running. Give us the odds. Okay, want to know how I can bet okay well Let's not running give us the odds Okay, let me ask you a question. Do you read anything into the fact that the Trump family is selling their hotel in Washington DC? I do a little bit. He might not be running in 2020 for you know there. They're selling their hotel Tom predicted I'd be governor aboga
Starting point is 01:25:00 I'm protecting right now So so you're saying they're doing that because they don't think they're going to be living in DC any time soon. Or what an advantage that was hosting people when you are the president and maybe you don't think you need it down there. I just think that the more powerful forces will convince him not to run, then run. I don't think he's going to be running. I hope we can look back at this in three years and say I was right
Starting point is 01:25:25 Well, here's here's some people if you want entertainment You want him to run if you like entertainment you want him to run because here's what how are stern just said how are stern Just made a bolt prediction about Donald Trump's 2024 run. This is a the list story during a recent episode of his hit series On series XM show stern floated the idea running for 2024 against Donald Trump. The well-respected interviewer said that he is primed to totally be disastrous. In fact, Stern considers running against Trump his civic duty, he said. Since it means potentially stopping a controversial politician from securing a second term, I would just sit there and play that f-n clip of him trying to fix the election over and over against Stern said, referring into the now infamous call
Starting point is 01:26:05 Trump made to Brad attempting to talk to the Georgia Secretary state into engineering proof of election fraud and as honest behalf there's no way at lose. Stern co-host Robin Quiver said agreed and said if Trump decides to run again you have to run against him. You can't leave it to the Democrats. Interesting. You think Stern would run? You think this is just one of those gibberish stuff that he's talking about. I think he's talking head and he does what talking heads do. I will say this, Howard Stern has become completely irrelevant by choice. There's a serious problem with him. I think I guarantee you serious has serious regrets about re-upping his contract last year. He doesn't want to be there. You know, he took the summer off. He took June, July, August off. He took it off.
Starting point is 01:26:45 He got it into his contract. He is so bitter. He's so fearful. His, his stick is so old right now. And I'm a huge Howard Stern fan. And I guarantee you, if you ask any Howard Stern fan out there right now, they're not into it anymore. Because he's just so bitter, he's so angry.
Starting point is 01:27:00 He never leaves his house in the Hamptons. He's so disconnected from everything that's going on. This worked in the 90s when he was gonna run for governor. And he said something like this. He'd get a real rally, but right now he's just saying it because he's out of material. So I'm having dinner with Marvin and D. Del Valle in LA at Palae was winning.
Starting point is 01:27:15 And conversation comes about Trump. He's asking, do you think Trump's gonna run? And I gave him my feedback on what I think's gonna happen. And he says, you know what's my biggest concern about Trump? I said, what's that? He says, Trump used to sell the dream. He used to excite, used to sell the dream. He used to say, America's this, America's that, America's this.
Starting point is 01:27:32 And he says, for whatever reason over the years, he got so bitter. And it was only about going against the people and you're just being animosity, berating all these enemies and all this stuff. I said, you know what it reminded me of? He said, what? I said, if anybody in Trump's camp hears this, you may want to consider this, although there's not a lot to be considered,
Starting point is 01:27:50 but if you do consider this, here's what I would say. Say you have a team of 100 sales guys that work for you. Okay, if you got 100 sales guys that work for you. It's a lot of people having sex on the floor. Yeah, if they're under 25 for sure. So that office would need to be sponsored by Trojan, but let's just say you do have an office of 100 sales people, okay? Here's what the demographics gonna look like
Starting point is 01:28:10 At a hundred sales guys one of them's gonna be the dominator that's beating and crushing everybody that example that everybody gets annoyed because He or she makes more money than everybody else by a mile Then you're gonna have four or five top performers, okay? That are stars, but not be super star than everybody else by a mile. Then you're gonna have four or five top performers, okay? That are stars, but not the superstar. Then you're gonna have 10 people that are doing good, okay? Then you got the middle people that are like showing up, they're not consistent, they're inconsistent.
Starting point is 01:28:35 But the same way you have the one guy that's a super true believer in you, you have the one guy that cannot stand you, despises you. Every word you say, he just hangs on that to use it during lunch to tell the guys, did you hear what Tom said? Did you hear what Tom said? This is why Tom's not a good leader. We should go work somewhere else, right? And then you have about 10 complainers that follow that one big deceptive guy, right?
Starting point is 01:28:55 Okay. When a sales leader gets up and speaks to his 100 guys, if you talk to your group as if you're only trying to prove that deceptive guy, the negative guy wrong, you're going to lose your audience. You have to get up and talk to the 80% that are willing to have somebody sell them the dream. Trump stop talking to people that were open-minded and he only talk to his enemies. You got to get, you got to forget about the enemies that are going to be there. They're going to say what they're going to say. If you would have sold the dream, it would have been a little bit more about, hey, America's
Starting point is 01:29:26 great, America's this, America's that, that messaging went away a little bit. So, look, if Trump decides to go run again, the messaging would need to change a little bit. Approach would need to change a little bit because if he goes the same way, results are going to be the same. I totally agree with that. And here's the other thing. Is part of his motivation for running payback and getting revenge. And I have one more term. I can do
Starting point is 01:29:48 whatever the hell. What do you think? I'd say it definitely is an element involved in that. It's the same thing with Cuomo thinking about running for attorney general. It's probably the main reason why he would want to do that. You think it is a revenge thing for Trump? What percentage do you think it's revenge for Trump? Between 13 to 24%. Here we go. Freak. I think about these things. I don't throw out random numbers. 13. That sounds very random, but you put a number.
Starting point is 01:30:10 That is not random. There's a low and a high. So it's like, is it of saying 80%? It's like 76%. But by the way, I don't think it's 13%. I think it's a pretty high number. That is actually a good thing. I don't think it's 13%.
Starting point is 01:30:22 I think it's you guys embarrass me, watch what I'm gonna do to you. I think there's an element of that taking place. I think there's an element of that taking place. And I think there's the other element. You know what the other element is? You know what's the cool thing about somebody leaving you and talking trash about you and a year, two years later saying, man, frickin' A, I missed that guy. I don't wanna say this, but you know, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:30:43 It's cool for everything. It's cool for everything. Mary, if you know, I'm saying things. It's true. That's right. Mary, if you're listening, David loves you. David loves you. He cries every day in front of my office saying, what do I need to do? Get her back.
Starting point is 01:30:54 If you're listening, please get back. Mary, I can explain the text messages. Yeah, the text messages. Get back to that. The M. He sent it out. One girl, it was a mistake. Go ahead Tyler. I just, I think one of the best things that happened to Trump
Starting point is 01:31:06 was getting kicked off of social media. Because everybody hated Trump. They said, no, no more mean tweets. Well, now you don't have them. Now Trump's not out there running his mouth all the time. 24 hours a day, unfiltered Trump. You lose that. So people, like David said, it's like an ex-cofer
Starting point is 01:31:20 and they start to rethink and say, well, it wasn't that bad. Yeah, he needs a different approach. Let me ask you a question. You were at Mar-a-Loggo recently, right? Yeah, I was. What's the vibe out there? I mean, he's living there, isn't he?
Starting point is 01:31:30 He's fired up, is what it was. He fired up and lit up is what it was. So, Kellyanne was there, Jared was there. It was an American First Policy Institute, you know, the whole idea of low taxes, low regulation, Larry Cudlow was there, was more like a business principle than it was more about the political stuff. And I think Trump gave a 90-minute speech, you know what he looked like? He looked like he was campaigning. So it looked like he looked like he was campaigning. So we're going to see what's going to end up happening. But confidence was pretty up there with a lot of interesting influencers.
Starting point is 01:32:05 I have a question. If, if, say, Biden and Trump ran, do you think on any party they tried to split the bone? Like, there's any breakout and try to run. What do you mean? Like a Ross Pro style in terms of more somebody that's not, like, would the Republican party split, would the Democratic party split, would both of them split? I say there's more of a chance of that happening
Starting point is 01:32:26 in 2024 than in the past. I think it's a possibility. I do. Listen, here's what I like to see. Here's what I like to see. I think as a strategist, if you're a strategist, I consider myself a strategist where I'm seeing what I would do
Starting point is 01:32:40 if I'm giving any kind of counsel to somebody, right? This is a very good time for somebody to be a hero. This is a very, very good time for somebody to come in and be a hero, okay? And from coming from a place, I'm saying, listen, here's where I'm coming from. This is your campaign. You know how everybody's campaigning around?
Starting point is 01:32:57 Obamacare, everybody's entitled to having an health insurance, right? Forward or dream or change or whatever, right? Trump's was make America great again. You know what the campaign should be? Make America unified again. Something about unified right? So think about if somebody ran on unification today
Starting point is 01:33:16 and they went up there and they said, look, here's what I want to do. Let me tell you what we differ in. We differ in this, this, this, this, this. Fine, let me tell you what we agree on. Family, kids, ta-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. So are we going to let seven things that we disagree on outweigh the 98 things that we agree on?
Starting point is 01:33:32 Okay, here's my goal. You're not going to like all the decisions I make because my goal is to bring us more to the center and unify. Right now we are either tilted to the left or we're tilted to the right. Here's a problem. If you're tilted to the left, you keep doing circles. If you're tilted to the left, you keep doing circles.
Starting point is 01:33:45 If you're tilted to the right, you keep doing circles. The only way they're gonna keep moving forward is to get a little bit more to the center. So I would like to see somebody from the like, like I don't even wanna say rock, but I would like to see somebody that's coming in that is not afraid of losing a few cool points from their side of the aisle to say,
Starting point is 01:34:05 listen, man, unifying America's more important in getting those cool points from you. That's how you convert to, and as much, especially there's the silent middle, you need to win over. It's a great time right now to do it. Oh my God, people crave that time right now to do it. The thing is, it has to be authentic.
Starting point is 01:34:18 I don't think you can just automatically turn yourself into saying that this is gonna be who I am. So if someone comes from that business background or something that's inspiring in mode of people wanna hear that right now, they're craving it. Who would that be? Who would that be? To come that can give that message out.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Well Obama is one for sure. You can go, Obama could do the fight. Well, if he wanted to, I think he has that power because he does have that type of charisma. And who's he gonna knight to carry that? I'm just thinking about people right now that have the actual gravitas to do it, have the collateral politically to do it
Starting point is 01:34:50 and have the personality. No, that's what I'm asking. So I agree with what you said about Obama, but who's he gonna knight? Who's the person with the gravitas and the thing that you're talking about? That Obama can come and say, it's gotta be somebody very, very close to him,
Starting point is 01:35:04 that he trusts, and it can't be somebody very, very close to him that he trusts and it can't be some random stuff. That's crazy. You know what I think? You know what I think? Michelle? No. You know who I think would be great to be able to do that and he has no interest in doing
Starting point is 01:35:16 that. Listen, hang tight before people flip out. I think it's a person like Rogan. I think that's the kind of a person that could pull it off. I think it's a person with a personality like him who brought up Bernie Sanders and he says, I think he makes sense. Cool.
Starting point is 01:35:35 And then he brought Tulsi Gabbard. I think she makes sense. And he is now in the center where he pushes back and saying, here's what I'm trying to see if I'm going to fix myself or not without relying. Hey, I got good after two days later. I think he could pull it off, but I don't think he has any interest in doing that at all, but it's a personality like him.
Starting point is 01:35:55 It can't be too ambitious of a person because if it's too, and I'm not saying Joe's not ambitious. It's not the point that he's not ambitious. Joe's living the life that he wants to live today. It's like when I was on the podcast with him, I'm like, he's not ambitious. It's not the point that he's not ambitious. Joe's living the life that he wants to live today. Like, it's like when I was on the podcast with him, I'm like, he's like, I have no interest starting a company. You want me to do more stuff? Add more stuff to my plate.
Starting point is 01:36:12 No, I'm good. So, he's a systematic guy that he's living a life right now that I bet is like his dream life. He doesn't want to. He has his buckets and he fills them up with the need. But I think he does very well with enemies. I think he does very well with dealing with enemies. I think he does very well with Dealing with enemies. I think he knows how to Bring the other person's guard down. I think he sat down with some of the smartest guys in in the world
Starting point is 01:36:32 I don't know. I think a personality like that could pull it off When you think about a Candace Owens Candace would be a trump type of a personality Shapiro it has to be somebody who's not too Too confrontational, but also they're not willing to back away from it. It's more kind of question. What are you saying? You're coming in as, yeah, let's solve this. I'm gonna prove why you're wrong. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. What am I, what am I not seeing? What are you not seeing? I think it's a guy like him. I think it's a guy like him. Well, somebody that has a thick skin who's built
Starting point is 01:37:01 something who doesn't really care because they're gonna be attacked. They have to give away five or six years of life. They have to give away five to six years of life. They have to give it away. I don't know. Listen, it would be a very funny campaign. The Joe Rogan experience, you know, President Rogan, if he ran for office, that would be daily podcasts from the White House. Podcast number 3,147.
Starting point is 01:37:21 I could get more of a reach. That was crazy. That would be so funny. number 3,147. Get more of a reach. That's crazy. That would be so funny. Him doing press conference, smoking weed, and it's just like, where are you going? Only thing that would spot if I would up to up his contract by like a billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Oh my God. With those 10, he would be like, Howard's turn saying, I need four years off. I'll come back to you, but I need about four years up. We'll see what happens next four years. But I think we need a personality like that. Anyways, next story, next story to go on to.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Do you guys want to talk about the Beto story? The DA, let's do the DA story. It's a funny story. Go to page eight, and then we'll go to Kamala and Biden. So page eight, I just think this is just pathetic. When you think about this, DA stopped saying Mexican cartel to peace Mexico, recently retired agency official says the Daily Call of the Directive for Drug Enforcement Administration, also
Starting point is 01:38:10 known as DEA. Officials to now use the term Mexican cartel came directly from the Biden administration to ease relations with the Mexican government to recently retire DEA. Officials said one recently retired DEA official said that when the new administration came in, the Department of Justice, the OJ required the E.A. to submit news interviews request. For approval, he said that the DOJ declined many of the national news requests on top of the language guidance, but eventually eased up and allowed some of the to do local
Starting point is 01:38:36 interviews where he used the term Mexican drug cartel and called each by its name. They want us to call to say Mexican cartels, the retail officials, they didn't want us to say Mexican cartels I think they wanted us to just say Transnational criminal organization Transnational criminal organization because I don't think they want to lay all the blame on Mexico They thought it was misleading, but they didn't want didn't get us a lot
Starting point is 01:38:59 They weren't very transparent with certain things. So there you go go. Mexican cartels, we can't say that anymore. I actually don't have a problem with that. I really, if you're trying to cooperate with the country of Mexico and try to take care of these drug cartels, which do exist, it's all branding. I wouldn't, if I was Mexico, I wouldn't want that thrown in there.
Starting point is 01:39:18 It's real. I mean, thousands of people are being murdered every year. How they can't stop it, I don't know. So, let me ask you a question. So, did it bother you when Trump kept saying the China virus? Did not at all. It did not bother me at all. So this is so why would this be? Because I'll tell you why. It's very simple. China's an enemy of our country. Mexico is not. I have no problem pinning the blame on China. Let me ask you a question. Nobody is sent Mexico's an enemy. But everybody's Mexican cartels are enemy. Did you see the shooting
Starting point is 01:39:44 that happened to people just out in Cancun? It's terrible. Did you see how they're targeting these, what do you call a resource that they're going to God knows? How many times we've been over there? Right. And it just went in with a mask and shot a bunch of people up. Yeah, it's terrible.
Starting point is 01:39:56 But all I'm saying is if this would help them shut down these drug cartels, I guess I don't have a tremendous problem with it. We've got like, more eggshells to walk up. Who's even gonna remember transnational criminal organizations? It's too big of a word for someone like me. ESL, I think Mexican cartel is easy. I wouldn't even be able to spell it.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Well, Ricky would be really upset because that's TCO. Anyway, first of all. First of all. Here's the reality. Do you think Mexican cartels are offended? They're not calling them Mexican cartels. They're so well. They're probably saying how dare you call us transnational. We are the cartels. Pat, they have a different way of canceling people. It's with the machine gun. I don't know what to tell you. So
Starting point is 01:40:36 Biden and Kamala's relationship as in crisis, as they're poll-rating crash, just one year her staff feuds over why she is being sideline would know when migration task well presidents team say they've given up on her already huh let's see what the story looks like here on page eight this is a daily mail mail story Biden is rumored to be considering moving Harris to Supreme Court as back to her method of selecting a new VP uh Supreme Court here we go the president staff are frustrated by her appalling polling figures
Starting point is 01:41:06 uh... even worse than by the terrorists and her top aids are furious with by the for handing her no-win issues like the border crisis the also claim that the president is not defending her while looking for after white men peat butichage by the staff are privately disappointed with her is over self-inflicted controversies like her awkward laughter when asked about visiting the border by NBC less less to hold Publicly the White House insists the relationship between Biden and Harris remains
Starting point is 01:41:29 Harmonious what award and productive do you think they have a good relationship today? No Did you see yesterday when he was signing the what he called it? The 1.3 trillion dollar bill how Kamala was standing outside and one of the guys like no come stand over here And the way she was standing over him you just have to see the language. It's a very awkward very awkward when he was signing You just got to see it and you make a decision for yourself, but Is Biden tried to distance himself from Kamala like Obama's trying to distance himself from Obama from Biden right now? You think that's kind of I think there's some parallels I do because, well, A, Biden didn't pick her. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:07 And arranged marriages generally don't work, right? Especially when you start off by calling someone a racist and then you marry him. So this thing had no chance of working. She's so ambitious. Are you kidding me? She would not be satisfied being in the Supreme Court. There's no pub in that.
Starting point is 01:42:23 There's no glamour. No way. This is gonna be a big thorn for him coming up in the next three years. It's gonna be a major issue the Supreme Court. There's no pub in that. There's no glamour. No way. This is gonna be a big thorn for him coming up in the next three years. It's gonna be a major issue for Joe Biden, what's gonna happen with her? Because she's not gonna be content just being in the background.
Starting point is 01:42:32 She's not gonna put up with it. No way. And they're feeding the media. Both of their sides are feeding the media stories. Over the weekend, CNN was borderline hysterical. The front page, where you had a puff piece on examining Kamala Harris's life and politics. And then you had two different stories on discord in Harris's office of the Vice President as a growing concern for the White House. Well, who planted that? There was two
Starting point is 01:43:01 unnamed sources of the White House who have spoken the condition of enemy You look at that. So they're both planning stories and they're both posturing in position I think Biden is distancing himself from her because they know about her ratings and it Doesn't help him. There's no assistance he can get from her California ratings glow. There's nothing There's nothing that she can do. There's no Yeah, just shocking. He picked her to be honest with you That's a point. You just said it.
Starting point is 01:43:27 He did not pick her, but it is shocking that she was the VP. She is the VP. Is it even possible? Well, look, all the women. All the women were going to give him something that he didn't need. He didn't need Hawaii. He didn't need, he's going to get it anyway. He didn't even in Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:43:39 He's going to get it anyway. He didn't in California. He was going to get it anyway. And there was all this other. Interesting. You know, decisions that were going in there. If you take a look at, you look at things that were really close, he needed Virginia.
Starting point is 01:43:51 Now we got Virginia, but you see what I mean? If you looked at that Electro map and you really looked at where it was going out, you would have said, let's find somebody with these criteria, but, and let's find Florida. And remember one of the last candidates considered was that police chief in Orlando, remember her African American
Starting point is 01:44:09 woman, she's cheap in Orlando, stellar record, tough on crime. You know, if you're looking to do the classic, okay, I need the VP to help me in the in the voting booth, that's the direction you would have gone. But he ended up with this. It's just begun. Three more years. Enjoy. Whose laugh was about this?
Starting point is 01:44:28 Was that really your laugh? Why was that? No, that we have. Oh, I was trying to, I was trying to, I was trying to, I was trying to, I was trying to crap at it. Can you do her French accent like she was doing in Paris? Oh, man, that was, and that's, I mean,
Starting point is 01:44:40 how stupid does she think people are? That's the point. Don't say that about your vice president. Tom, please, it's going to upset, of an age-of-a-way. So let's look at this on what happened. This insider story here is the last one that we'll do. Across racial lines, policing emerged as a deciding factor in the elections. This is an insider story from Albany to Cleveland, ballots, measure, most of which centered on
Starting point is 01:45:04 the amount of police presence, particular areas should have had varying degrees of success. And Minneapolis, for example, voters had to decide whether to replace the city's police department with a department public safety that would employ a comprehensive public health approach to ensure the community's welfare. Right?
Starting point is 01:45:22 The ballot measure, which was prompted by George Floyd's murder, a murder was rejected by about 60% of many apples, voters, but Cleveland, ballots, measure, fair, much differently. 94% Ohio City's voters were in favor of instituting an amendment to create a civilian, led board and community police commission that would have final say in police policies and discipline. As these and other states show policing took the forefront during the latest batch of elections.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Look, this whole thing about defunding the police, how big it got, it's always about defunding your police. It's not about defunding my police, but I want you to defund your police. Because in our area, let's keep the cops. In your area, let's not keep the cops. There's a lot of hypocrisy there. So do you think the same thing's gonna play a big role
Starting point is 01:46:04 in 2024, 2023 when the next election comes around? I don't think so. Okay. Because I think people are smart enough to know that this is complete BS. I mean, this, this, it was a perfect storm for something like this to happen last year. And it happened, the pandemic, George Floyd,
Starting point is 01:46:19 all these things led to this reaction. There's no way people ultimately want this. And I think it's gonna fade away to bigger topics. I really do. I think police departments need some reform in some cities. Many applets clearly needed a little reform, but you just don't throw the police away like this, and I don't think it's gonna be a hot button issue in 2024.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Tom. I thought that the Cleveland measure was the citizens being sensible. Because what did they say? They didn't say defund the police in Cleveland. They said, let's get a commission that is not beholden. Remember, police internal affairs is investigating itself. There's always been a corrupt lien there.
Starting point is 01:46:59 And so I thought that this people of Cleveland were being very, very prudent saying, hey, let's get an independent commission so that when we have internal affairs, we have questionable shootings and things like this that happen. Let's have somebody else in the room to make sure that we hold the police accountable and we do things sensibly. So I love what I love that measure in Cleveland. And then in Minneapolis, I think what you said to open this little segment, you're absolutely correct. DeFund, youund your police not my police. Yeah. By
Starting point is 01:47:27 the way this Thursday's gonna be Thursday riots. I don't know if you guys are ready or not. This Thursday's gonna be Thursday right day because that is when the verdict comes. When the verdict comes so people have to be ready for what's gonna happen. They have the National Guard on standby. Oh they have to. They have to because if this comes out and a lot of things are shown that he's gonna come out innocent. If it does they're going to need a lot of police in certain areas. But interesting part though is how's that going to play out now that Trump's not that the helmet and because he was the one that was blamed for
Starting point is 01:47:55 everything even though there's governors below that this then the other so how's that now going to reflect on Biden then of is that is that cool is that okay is everything gonna go away so that's to be just an interesting moment. Yeah, so look, here's a couple things as we're wrapping up. I want to give you a couple updates. Number one, I want to give you Mafia States of America update, okay, for people that are still following that story. FYI, if you haven't seen Gerard on the podcast for the last couple weeks, except for the 101, is because he has one assignment and he's working with Eric and the team to finish up Mafia States of America and they're doing a fantastic
Starting point is 01:48:24 job. I'm proud to accrue the products looking amazing. Cannot wait to release it to you. I will tell you, this is not going to be on YouTube. Everybody needs to know it is not going to be on YouTube. The only thing you will see on YouTube is a number of short clips that will be shared because it is 10 episodes. We had a crew of, I don't know, 40 people working on this project, they send it up being
Starting point is 01:48:44 half a million plus of a project. It'll be sold the 10 episodes. You can either be able to buy one of them. We haven't decided on what the price is going to be per episode. Maybe it's $9.99 and you buy the whole thing for $4.99. So stay tuned. There will be a website where we'll release. We're getting close to potential release,
Starting point is 01:48:59 like I told Sammy, when he was on the podcast, it's either going to be end of the year, December, or it's going to be 2022. And what did Sammy say? Let me just say this. it's either gonna be end of the year December or it's gonna be 2022 and what it's saying, we say, let me just say this, it's gonna be end of the year. But we're working on it to get it done for you. So Hank Tide with Mafia States, the product looks ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:49:16 This is all I'm gonna tell you. You're gonna flip out when you see the product. And second thing is Kai, Kai's been running VT Merch. We got a lot of new products that's coming out with value payment. A lot of big surprises coming out. One of the things that we had a very hard time with
Starting point is 01:49:30 because the Yornex 5 moves is selling out on Amazon tremendously. And we had a call with what he called it, with Simon and Schuster. They now have it at Target, it's selling all over the place. And the ranking keeps going higher and higher and higher with the book.
Starting point is 01:49:46 And we're not even promoting it. But many of you ask for signed copies. And we only had 100. And it sold out like in a couple of days. We talk to Simon and Schuster. We have another badge of 100 signed copies of your next five moves. If you don't have it and you'd like one,
Starting point is 01:50:00 the link below is going to give it to you in the comments section. Go to vt merch.com vt merch.com the first hundred that order your next five moves signed it'll be sent over your way but you got to go to vt merch and I wouldn't be waiting if it's a gift you want to get for somebody for Christmas my wife just text me saying baby I think you should do your next five move for kids I'm like babe as if life is not as busy as it is let's add another book to the plate anyways thank you for listening We're gonna do this again
Starting point is 01:50:28 on Thursday. Our friend Adam's gonna be back on Thursday and I think who walks do we have on Thursday? Somebody else is a... I think it's Danielle as well. Okay, Danielle's gonna be with us on this Thursday. So do not miss this Thursday's podcast. Take care everybody. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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