PBD Podcast - Insurrection Act, Trump's Nobel Peace Prize, Clintons Subpoena + Sinema Scandal w/ Ann Coulter | PBD Podcast | Ep. 719

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick are joined by Ann Coulter to break down growing Insurrection Act chaos, Trump being gifted a Nobel Peace Prize, and the explosive sca...ndal surrounding Senator Kyrsten Sinema.------ 🖊️ANN COULTER'S SUBSTACK: https://bit.ly/45dytTf✝️ FAITH OVER FEAR COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3MIFOUu🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Second. Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so close I could take sweet bit of the week. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever size. Right here.
Starting point is 00:00:18 You are a one of one? My son's right. I think I've ever said this before. All right. We got a special friend in the house, Ann Coulter. Great to have you back on. Good to be here. Yes?
Starting point is 00:00:33 Great to have you back on. Thank you. This is the interim set. We're rebuilding the other set. So next time we'll take you to the other set that we're building. And Tom, for 20 years, still doesn't know how to turn off his phone. Get his phone away from his. Rob, can you do me a favor?
Starting point is 00:00:48 No, no, do me this favor. Rob, please grab Tom's phone because he just watches the live the entire time, gets distracted. Can you please come and grab Tom's phone? Do me in favor and do that. Because it always makes noise. Grab it from him and set him aside. Go ahead and grab it from and set it aside.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Thank you. All right. Can I defend Tom for a second? We did this. What did I do 30 seconds before the show? He said, hey, make sure your phone's off. So he doesn't even listen. No, no.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Remember. Tom has a rule of three. Here's Tom's rule of three. It's the first time you say Tom. Yes. He's still here. Second time you say Tom in his brain, he goes, Tom. By the third time you say Tom, he hears it.
Starting point is 00:01:25 It's just a rule of three. By that point, the phone's already rang seven times. You know what that's called? That's called when you are maniacally focused. You hear no. noise. Signal noise. Make some noise for Tom.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Out there, baby. For being focused on signal. You know, it's also the myth of the married man where after 10 years of marriage, it's always, I'm sorry, I didn't hear you till the third time you called. Great defense mechanism. All right. Well, I'm sure Kim appreciates that. Guys, while this is going on, there's this, apparently this story about a lady who would fly
Starting point is 00:01:58 in her body guard and would give him Molly. the MA and the ex-wife of the bodyguard is suing. Am I saying it correctly, Rob? This sounds like a movie. Kirsten Cinema, which is a very interesting story. No, no, this is actually, you know, we'll talk about that. Trump insurrection, there's something's going on and there. We'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Obviously, a lot's going on with Iran. Brett Beard did a phenomenal interview with the Iran foreign minister, and it got heated because he was calling him out, so we'll get into that. This is like, Ann Colt, all she wants to talk about is Iran. She said right before. That is the most exciting story I want to talk about. That's the number one story. So we want to make your hands like she wanted to go do nine stories on Iran.
Starting point is 00:02:38 We said we can't do that many. But we will do a couple. Iran issue is sickening assassination threat against Trump. Iranian protesters' family says execution has been postponed, which is good news. Trump praises Iran's exile royal as very nice, but doesn't go as far as fully supporting regime change with him. Trump brags about. a very good call with terrific Venezuelan president ahead of meeting with opposition leader
Starting point is 00:03:08 that came through. I think yesterday, Karina Mucato, if I'm not mistaken, Rob, handed over the Nobel Peace Prize to Trump and there was a picture about it. But Caroline Levitt right afterwards said something very interesting. She said his opinion on her still hasn't changed as being the leader.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I know, and you probably got some thoughts on that. We'll come to you with that. Trump says he supports Venezuela, remaining in OPEC. Tom has some thoughts on that, which I don't know if it really means, remaining an OPEC. Trump confirms leaker on Venezuela in jail.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Very bad leaker is who he was. Buying Greenland could cost as much as $700 billion. I don't know who's coming out with that number, but that's what NBC News is, saying Josh Hawley, you listen, Tom's got the three rule, right? He asked this lady the same question 11 times, and she still wouldn't answer.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And allegedly she's a doctor, which at the end I think she says, call me by my, you know, call me doctor. It reminded me of that scene, paging doctor, you know, from the movie, I don't want to finish the rest, but, you know, yeah, wonderful movie, documentary. But facing corrupt threat, Clinton's refused to testify in Epstein's inquiry.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Now, here's what's weird. Can you imagine John Stewart, who gets in and says they should absolutely comply with Epstein's subpoena and go testify? All right. So even John Stewart wants to see Clinton's get involved. White House responds to Joe Rogan's warning that ICE behaviors, Minneapolis, resembles Hitler's Gestapo. Exodus of immigrants, a hit for the U.S. economy study says that's a barren story. Federman, who is more and more becoming a very illogical player, says, I should continue arrest and not slow down. That's Federman for you. Renee Good's former father-in-law doesn't blame ICE agent for shooting. Illegal Venezuelan migrant shot in Minneapolis after mercilessly ambushing Fed agent with snow shovel. This was an interesting story because two things were going on at the same time.
Starting point is 00:05:11 We'll talk about that. Lefty L.A. poll's tout mansion tax, but less than 1% of the billion has gone to affordable housing. Very, very good story. We'll get into that as well. California billionaires rage at huge tax bill to fund illegal immigrant held subsidies. Stephen A. Smith calls at Jasmine Crockett for ducking him after she hurled racial insults at him, calling him Django, and a couple other things, which we'll get into that. And then I got a few other stories here on what happened with Dilbert cartoonist. Final message.
Starting point is 00:05:44 You guys saw the ex-wife, which she said, which was amazing. But did you see what the journalist, how they put the time? For sure. We have to cover that as well. Goldman Sachs predicts blockbuster 2026 for MNA mega deals. Vinny's got entire analysis on that. And then that's where we are. So with that being said, Vinny's got some special he wants to share with you guys.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And when Vinny does this, it's a very, very special moment. So Vinny, tell us what you've been working on. Thank you, Pat. So as you guys know, I have the Faith Over Fear line in this shirt that I'm wearing right now is our newest. Faith over fear was more of how you live. This shirt is on how you stand. So on Isaiah chapter 6 verse 8, Isaiah. has a vision of God in his throne, and he's asking, he wants somebody to step up to go to Israel,
Starting point is 00:06:27 to, you know, call people to God. They're resisting. They're rejecting him. And God says, whom shall I send and who will go for us? And Isaiah, knowing the cost, just answers quick. He goes, here am I, send me. And there's actually a moment, Pat, in the movie Fury. Do you guys remember Shai LeBuff? His name is Bible in the movie. John Bernthal, Brad Pitt. They're in this tank division. The tank has been destroyed. Okay. They know that they're all going to They can run, they could leave, but they choose to stay there and delay the enemy from advancing. And Shilabuff has that moment where he goes, this is a righteous act, gentlemen, and he quotes the verse from Isaiah. He goes, here am I, send me.
Starting point is 00:07:07 So it's about answering the call even when it costs everything. So that's what this shirt means today. It's speaking the word when it's unpopular and standing firm, regardless of the consequences. And so the front of the shirt is Isaiah 6-8, Valuetamint is here. and that's the back of the shirt right there. Here am I, send me. It's live right now on Vteamberch.com. Get you guys a shirt and, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 That's awesome. By the way, last time. I'm proud of you for reading the Torah. You're welcome. Yeah, last time he did this, 10,000 Faith Over Fear shirts were picked up, so go pick yourself up a shirt and represent. All right, with that being said, let's get right into it.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I want to go into the top story. What could happen if Trump invokes the Insurrection Act in Minnesota? Okay, so let's go through this. Rob, I think you got a couple clips on this. President Trump on Thursday tweeted this, or truth social this, if the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists
Starting point is 00:08:07 from attacking the patriots of ICE, who are only trying to do their job, I will institute the Insurrection Act, which many presidents have done before me, and quickly put an end to the travesty that is taking place in that once great state, Thank you for your attention, Donald J. Trump. And how do you feel about this?
Starting point is 00:08:28 Of course he should do this. And I don't even think he needs to invoke the Insurrection Act. It's funny how the New York Times avoids talking about the two most famous incidents of president sending troops against the wishes of a state's governor. Eisenhower sending them to Little Rock because to walk nine black school children into the school. Why? Because they were disobeying federal law. It was a Supreme Court ruling. ruling, you can't discriminate. The governors, the mayors were saying, we're going to keep discriminating. And so Eisenhower sends, you know, the 101st airborne to walk these nine black
Starting point is 00:09:03 and then JFK did the same thing in Alabama. Directly against the governor, the governor called out his own national troops, George Wallace, famous name. That was to walk two students into University of Alabama. So we have nine sad black students, two sad black students, and, of course, the Constitution and federal law being violated, and they go down in history as heroes. Minnesota is violating federal law. Immigration law is federal. The Supreme Court has held this one million times.
Starting point is 00:09:37 They did it, I'll just say briefly, because it's recent. I mean, I've been alive in America for more than two weeks. When Arizona passed that, what everybody called the Papers Please Law, you'll remember that, oh, it's like Nazi Germany, which was upheld by the Supreme Court, at least that one provision. The rest of the law was overturned. All Arizona had said is we want to comply with the federal government. We're going to help.
Starting point is 00:10:01 We aren't going to do anything that federal immigration law doesn't say, but we're going to help enforce federal immigration law. Obama was president, and he sued saying, I don't want to enforce federal immigration law. The Supreme Court says federal government wins. So absolutely he has constitutional authority to do this. And if you look at how the governor and the mayor are behaving, I mean, just today I think the governor, Tim Walt, said,
Starting point is 00:10:25 Minnesota is an island. Well, no, you're not an island from federal law. Did he really say he's an island? Yes. I mean, that's like seceding from the union. Of course he should send federal troops. Wow. Tom, your thoughts on this.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Well, you and I lived in Los Angeles at a time in 1992, which was also a time that the Insurrection Act was under the riots. That's Rodney King. And the city was being torn apart. The police were overwhelmed. And when the police are overwhelmed, that's when the National Guard comes in. This is when a hurricane or an earthquake happens, and our governors say, hey, we have a disaster area. I need you declare me a disaster area so that I can get federal funds.
Starting point is 00:11:08 And by the way, can you police send relief people, troops, supplies, whatever it is? And so we'll ignore the failure of Hurricane Katrina. In Los Angeles, we had Korean shopkeepers that were on top trying to protect their own buildings, and it was invoked at that time appropriately. This is exactly when it should be invoked. And it's interesting that everybody's clinging to the word insurrection in the media, because that was the word they clung to on January 6th because they had to make it an insurrection, because an insurrection is the operative term that was in the Constitution that they wanted to pin on, oh, you've created an insurrection. because an insurrection is the operative term that was in the Constitution that they wanted to pin on, oh, you've created an insurrection, on Trump. So when you look at this, I think not only is this appropriate, it is not appropriate,
Starting point is 00:11:56 it's urgent, it's obligatory. It's not should Trump do it. It's why is he waiting for any opinion to say, this is out of control here, and I have to protect the people of the state because it's the union. It's one of the states of the union. So I got to step in here. I think he's late. This should have happened the day after the incident happened with B-good,
Starting point is 00:12:18 whatever, Renee good with the pin wearing out. But can we just take a step back? Martyr de jour. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We're watching a state. Look at the timeline. A state that was just exposed for one of, if not the biggest fraud scandals in the history of the United States. Scott Besson came out and said 10% of our money is going to fraud.
Starting point is 00:12:39 $600 billion a year? And is it just a coincidence that all this stuff is happening here, that they've energized these people? By the way, this isn't happening organically. You think these people with all the same signs, all the same movement. Cash Fetel came out yesterday. He said, if you think this is just organic, you're insane. And they're going to go after all of them.
Starting point is 00:12:59 He said 600 billion? 600 billion dollars a year. This is it right here. investigations and the these men and women they they are cool cats they they can take a part of balance sheet and they can knock down a door and arrest someone like they go out on patrols they can make arrests it's this very interesting hybrid force about 2,500 of them and they led the charge here so it was irs cis who who uncovered the initial fraud and the prosecutions.
Starting point is 00:13:38 So it's with that group, with other groups at IRS, and with the powers of the Treasury to track where the money came from, where it's going. We saw this very unsettling news yesterday that many people involved here with the administration of these programs and tried to go back, and the right recreate documents, change documents.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Rob, when does he say 600 billion? We're not going to have that. We are going to hold people accountable. We're going to press this to the full extent possible. And like I said, I think that this may just be, it's a cold day outside, so this could be the tip of the iceberg here in Minnesota, but it's probably may not be as prevalent, but the dollars may be bigger and larger in other states. And just to put this in perspective for American taxpayers, for American families,
Starting point is 00:14:41 the GAO, the General Accounting Office, believes that there is somewhere between 3 and 600 billion of annual fraud, roughly 10% of government spending. 10% that disappears due to fraud. If we can recapture that. You can pause that right there. So how do you not track that, though? How do you not track that and find out who it's going to? Well, wasn't that Doge?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Intentionally. And wasn't Doge's job supposed to go in, find all this situation. And just really quick, Pat, if you, if you, because this is where I'm coming from, is it, I'm putting two to two together. They just got exposed. So instead of going, yeah, guys, this is face of fire. They take this moment because they were pushing it. Tim Walz is like the Gestapo, this. This is one of those moments like in House of Cards where they sit there and they wait for a moment to happen and they capitalize.
Starting point is 00:15:30 This is their moment. Now it's, hey, don't worry about the fraud. it's Trump is a Nazi. These people are Gestapo, and I just hope that I know Cash Patel said he's going to be looking into it. Like I said last week, I don't care about basketball gambling. That's a whole different situation. This is hundreds of billions of dollars a year. This is what we care about, and this is all a show to distract everybody from what the real problem is,
Starting point is 00:15:54 and that's a problem. They've imported all these people. They're not working, Pat. They're sitting there and they're scamming us, and nobody's going to care about it. I'm sorry. It's a loop. And the loop we saw are Ukraine. Ukraine gets a bunch of money, but a lot of it's allocated for defense. It comes right back to General Dynamics and Boeing and North... Money laundering. And all them comes back. They then send equipment to Ukraine. Now they have these billions of dollars. They say thank you through a lobbyist. They say thank you through a PAC. And now the money that Senator Blowhard voted to send to Ukraine has made a loop back. And Senator Blowhard has got PAC money and campaign money back in. And it is an internal cycle. And that's how they keep stasis. That is their stability, these cycles.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And now all they've done in Minnesota is it wasn't a foreign war. It was a systemic fraud loop that they created. Except now the unintended consequence, which the creators or the intentional closed eyes created, was money went to al-Shabaab, and then some of that money came back. So all of a sudden, enclosed rooms. rooms, you've got to believe that walls and others in closed rooms is like, crap. Well, let me do this before I come to out. I want you to see this. Watch this U.S. rep from Minnesota, Angie Kray, look what she says here. And tell me if this is helping out. Go ahead,
Starting point is 00:17:16 Rob. Yes or no, do you think Congress should shut down the government over ICE and DHS funding to make a statement? Look, I'm not in the room with leadership, but what I can tell you, what is happening in America. The path that we are traveling certainly reminds me of many of the images that we saw in the 1930s in Germany, and we should stand up to this lawless administration. And right now, nothing should be able to say something like that and get away with it, right? That's what I'm saying. Adam, your thoughts. I missed the part in Germany where foreigners created fraud. I missed that part. There was an extermination that was going on. First of the first.
Starting point is 00:18:04 the criminals, then the gypsies, then the people in asylums, and then later the horror of the Holocaust. So I miss the part in Germany where there is a fraud loop. Adam. So ridiculous. Well, this whole shenanigans comes down to one word for me, and that's midterms. So we're in a perpetual election cycle in this country, and as Tom has always pointed out, they're looking for their next George Floyd, and guess what? They found her, and her name is Renee Good. So, by the way, the heroes of the left are a little bit different than of the right. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk, absolute hero. The heroes of the left are George Floyd, drug addict wife beater, woman beater, and this woman who's a weaponized
Starting point is 00:18:46 agent against ICE. So to me, the bigger story here is there may be a kernel of truth in all this. But then you have what I would call people just look into act a fool. So if you remember after Rodney King, 1992, okay, that guy got his ass whipped by the police, we get it. But now people in L.A. want to burn down their entire city as retribution. And I remember after Katrina, they started looting. And then the great Greg Geraldo, the comedian goes, no, I understand you want to get some stuff, but you need a TV and some beer in the middle of a hurricane? Like, that seems a little inappropriate. And then the whole conversation about what the BLM riots did in Minnesota, you know, callback. The ironic thing, shout out to Alainz Morse said, is Donald Trump was accused of doing a
Starting point is 00:19:33 insurrection, look at what's happening in all these cities. Last point, just to my friends on the left, on the right, enough with the Holocaust stuff. I was actually with a Holocaust survivor, 95-year-old woman. I mean, and she's an amazing woman. She's the grandmother of my good friend Jeremy. And I said, hey, you know, they're saying a lot of things are akin to the Holocaust these days, you know, this thing in ice. And she goes, oh, yes. Well, I was one of eight children. All my other siblings were murdered. My entire family
Starting point is 00:20:13 was put into Auschwitz a concentration camp. My aunts, my uncles, grandparents. They're all dead. So please forgive me if ICE protests, not Nazi Germany. I'm sorry. Thank you for having some sort of our rationale here. There's a big difference between protesting and God forbid something
Starting point is 00:20:38 get injured or killed whatever versus the intentional genocide of an entire population. That's a great argument point you're making. But here's Joe Rogan talking about what it looks like on TV, what it's looking like to the average person that's watching it. Go ahead, Rob. You don't want militarized
Starting point is 00:20:57 people in the streets just roaming around, snatching people up, many of which turn out to actually the U.S. citizens that just don't have their papers on them? Are we really going to be that the Gestapo? Where's your papers? Is that what we've come to? Anne, what do you think about what Joe said there?
Starting point is 00:21:14 I'm just horrified that my party is so bereft of Hollywood celebrities that they will latch on to someone who was a janitor in a 1970s sitcom and make him into this hero. I've always thought Joe Rogan is a moron if young men are looking for a, you know, masculine podcast, I would definitely recommend this one over that. I mean, his claim to fame is he was first. So he gets interesting interview ease. But it's the people he's talking to are interesting. He's not interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:47 You don't think Joe's interesting? No. I think what he just said was utterly beyond moronic. In fact, you've just, I mean, I think you just demolished what he said there. I think everybody has this idea. They've been saying this since 2015 about. Trump, oh, which reminds me. I make fun of it in my book in Trump. We trust all of these op-eds in 1930s. We're back to this. And he's comparing this to the Gestapo, as I just pointed
Starting point is 00:22:14 out earlier, the one part of the Arizona law that was upheld by the Supreme Court was what liberals were all saying, oh, it's papers, please, it's paper. No, it's reasonable cause. We're looking for illegal aliens. Of course you can consider accents, um, ability to to speak English, what someone looks like. That is part of the many things they are looking at. And the idea that they're pulling aside citizens, it's less than 1% of citizens who have even been briefly detained. It's less than 1% fraud as opposed to 10% fraud in these feed your families programs. If you don't mind. I actually have the numbers. So in the past great point, and in the last 12 months, there have been 100.
Starting point is 00:23:02 This is one year, 170 confirmed instances in which an American citizen was temporarily or improperly detained by ICE. In that same time frame, there have been approximately 600 and 22,000 forced deportations. Okay, so, and to your point, this puts ICE's improper temporary detention rate at 0.027. So in other words, ICE is doing a fantastic job and has a 99.9.73% success rate, okay? And I respect Joe, but for saying the Gestapo and stuff, it's like they've caught the Gestapo bug. You know why? Because during Obama, you never saw it. CNN never showed it.
Starting point is 00:23:44 MSNBC never showed it. Fox never. Nobody ever aired this stuff, okay? And just to add on top of it, Trump wants to be number one. So he has to catch Obama, which got $5 million out at this pace. he's not going to do it. The Department of Homeland Security has publicly claimed that 1.9 undocumented illegal immigrants have voluntarily self-deported, okay, since Trump took offense.
Starting point is 00:24:08 If you know it's coming, I know it's hard, you have to leave. Trump is enforcing the law. He didn't make the law. Yeah, please add 1.9 million. You didn't say million. So 1.9 million. I'm sorry. 1.9 million people were like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:24:21 They're coming. Let me leave, get my stuff together, and potentially come back the right way. don't see the problem because think about it Trump's kicking ass sorry for my language on every other aspect this is the one thing they have to do you know why what is the democratic Democratic party running on what is Gavin Newsom was yesterday on with a ben Shapiro he has nothing it's just lie after lie after lie this is all they run on is hatred for us it's hatred for us Gestapo Hitler it's like it's enough enough emotion and outrage are absent and they don't have a platform there's no platform they have no
Starting point is 00:24:55 policy they have nothing they have no leaders and have nothing well i think this was a really bad take by joe rogan but that doesn't mean he's a bad person in fact respectfully he's the goat of podcasting so you said his claim to fame he was first to she the great anne colter but he's still first remember when we were with rogan and he goes listen uh i'm number one in 92 countries that's a big difference between being number 92 in one country so So the challenge that Rogan will have is he's so good and he's so big. One bad take, and this was a bad take, respectfully, Mr. Rogan, it's going to get amplified. Even the White House responds.
Starting point is 00:25:36 But overall, he's the goat in the podcasting space. He's still number one. And he's going to, you know, give him a little grace to make some mistakes. I would love to see him walk that back. When, when I had a guy came to my place, Tom, you'll remember this. He sent me this offer. He says, please take this to the president. Tom Holman, they need to see this.
Starting point is 00:25:58 He said, for you to be able to deport 10 million people, here's what the budget's going to be. You need people that are going to be finding folks. You need trucks. You need this. He said, it's going to take you 700. We gave a massive number of what it was going to take. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:26:15 When they started saying we're going to deport, we're going to get rid of all these illegal immigrants, the first thing I went to is people that are emotional, that are just like regular people that are going to watch the content. You know how much great content is going to be produced to show how evil the current regime is and they're taking them back to their country and separating them from their family
Starting point is 00:26:39 and look how cold they are and look how this they are. So the average person, no matter who you are, who is not studying the numbers, who is not looking into this closely, is going to look at that and it's going to say, I cannot believe we're doing this. I can't, and then you study history and then you're explaining the history of insurrection,
Starting point is 00:26:55 what Eisenhower did, what Kennedy did, Alabama, all this stuff. And then somebody goes and looks at the history, is like, wait a minute, we've been doing this for many, many times, you have to do this to keep the American people safe. But I do believe, because it's such an emotional situation, that even the best and the brightest can fall for it and say, this is not fair. And millions will say, that's what we need.
Starting point is 00:27:18 We need more people like this that are empathetic. But the reality of it is, how many people it's going to take to do the next 9-11? Go ahead and let's figure out right now this year. What's coming up this year in June, July? Hey, I heard it's our 250th birthday, baby. But hang on a second. World Cup is coming here.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Oh, that too. Okay? So let one massive event take place. Let Munich, you thought, what happened with Munich in the Olympics. Let something like that happened here. And then it's an illegal immigrant that came here, not from Mexico. not from Guatemala, not from El Salvador, but let's just say this person came from the Middle East,
Starting point is 00:27:56 boom, boom, and then they do something, and then thousands of people died. Then we have to stop the World Cup, then we have to stop the games, and then who's gonna be looking at saying things? Oh, you know what? All that stuff you were doing on the streets. Why didn't you do more of it?
Starting point is 00:28:09 Trump should have cleaned house better. You should have been more proactive. Oh, now you're saying that? And the problem, I was in the insurance space for 25 years. When you sell life insurance, the average person you talked to, you talked to with life insurance and you say like I remember when I told my dad I'm getting to the insurance space he says how does this work I said you pay $100 every month but if you die the insurance
Starting point is 00:28:31 company will give you $250,000 he says you believe this America company pay you 250. So I pay $100 $300 three months that's $300 a company called AIG is going to pay me $250,000 you're crazy if you believe it right the average person but the reality of it is you know how many time we had a client that paid a couple premiums and they were dealing on $500,000 policy, so many times. So many times. You don't buy insurance because you're going to die tomorrow. You buy in case.
Starting point is 00:29:00 We have to be very proactive with this. I'm glad he's doing it. But I also get you can fall for the emotional videos and sit there and say, what an evil thing that we're doing. We don't have to do this. You know, to expand on your point, yes, the media is very powerful. And yes, a lot of people are, I think, falling
Starting point is 00:29:17 for this. On the other hand, I don't quite believe the polls. I mean, the original polls from the New York Times and places like that were that the vast majority of Americans wanted Trump to deport all illegal aliens. New York Times published this like six months. It was 60 plus percent of you, if I remember correct? All. Criminal or not.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And as with life insurance somebody dying, there are a lot of Molly Tibbitts out there. There are a lot of families who have been not only had children or relatives murder, or killed in drunk driving accidents, but victims of 9-11. That was an immigration problem. Whose neighborhoods have been overtaken, whose pets are being eaten, or whatever. They're eating the dogs.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And it goes out in concentric circles. It doesn't have to be you whose child died. That whole neighborhood knows about that child. And I think there are a lot of Americans who are not as vocational. as some of those on the left who are looking at this and saying, I don't care, I don't care, just get them out. Biden brought in 20 million.
Starting point is 00:30:27 We got to get them out. By the way, I want to show something here. Rob, can you do me favor? Find a clip of Caroline Levitt talking to this reporter. I love this. Everybody has to watch this. Watch this clip here, folks. From the top rope.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I'm unfortunately and tragically killed. Are you asking me, my opinion? Because an ICE and acted recklessly and killed it unjustified. Oh, okay. So you're a biased reporter with a left-wing opinion. What do you want me to do? Yeah, because you're a left-wing hack. You're not a reporter.
Starting point is 00:30:56 You're posing in this room as a journalist. And it's so clear by the premise of your question. And you and the people in the media who have such biases, but fake, like you're a journalist, you shouldn't even be sitting in that seat. But you're pretending like you're a journalist, but you're a left-wing activist. And the question that you just raised,
Starting point is 00:31:12 and your answer proves your bias. You should be reporting on the facts. You should be reporting on the cases. Do you have the numbers of how? how many American citizens were killed at the hands of illegal aliens who ICE is trying to remove from this country? I bet you don't. I bet you didn't even read up on those stories. I bet you never even read about Lake and Riley or Jocelyn Nungray or all of the innocent Americans who were killed at the hands of illegal aliens in this country. And the brave men and
Starting point is 00:31:36 women of ICE are doing everything in their power to remove those heinous individuals and make our communities safer. And shame on people like you in the media who have a crooked view and have a biased view. And have a biased view. And pretend like you're a real honest journalist. Wow. Go ahead. Can I react to that? By the way,
Starting point is 00:31:56 Caroline Levin is a straight, verbal, assassin, gangster. And I mean that in the highest possible way. No, one of us, I won't name names, was joking backstage. He's like, well, that's why I don't think women should be in power, leadership. Here's Exhibit A that that gentleman didn't always talk about because there's Ann Colters of the world,
Starting point is 00:32:14 that Caroline Levitts of the world that just dismiss all your preconceived notions. You know how when someone has a mic drop thing and they stop the video and sunglasses come in, they put a blunt in their mouth and it's like, yeah, yeah, it's a gangster thing. She should have a hundred of those. Caroline Levitt is a verbal gangster. Thank you for doing what you're doing for America.
Starting point is 00:32:32 By the way, this is what Federman said about it. Rob, if you want to go to Federman, I'll make this the last clip and then we'll move on to the next story. This is a Federman. Go ahead, Rob. Border and it was skyrocketing. You know, and it's like that's unsustainable. When you reach almost 300,000 people,
Starting point is 00:32:48 that's unsustainable and we need to, you know, as a Democrat, it shouldn't be unreasonable to want to secure our border and do it in that way. And now let's also, let's also talk about ICE. Now, absolutely, again, what happened in Minneapolis was absolutely tragic. And then now, if you think, now this is from the Washington Post, you know, this is the latest statistics. These are people that ICE now are read, though, it's like, now, have criminal charges pending ones or that that that so that's more than two-thirds you know the people now now there are some people that aren't involved in any kinds of illegal things you know but so me I think two things can be true you know round up all the criminals deport them they shouldn't
Starting point is 00:33:37 have ever been here and they definitely have to go and now I don't know want to see more and more things happening in Minneapolis now too so two things must be true and I strongly reject the extreme on either side, you know, about this now. So we must be true. And, you know, I watched your- Pretty wild that he is becoming a voice of reason. Isn't that crazy? Him.
Starting point is 00:34:00 It took one injury and he's back to normal. God bless him. And at the end of the day, this is what drives me crazy because Tom, I know you want to say something, and he wants to move on. When you have the mayor and the governor and Ilhan Omar calling to action, get in their faces,
Starting point is 00:34:18 Do this. And then something like this happens. Where is the accountability? You want to talk about Insurrection Act? When they said Donald Trump told them to go and go in there and what to know, this is what they're doing. And there has to be accountability for you sending in the troops. And then one of the troops gets killed.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And then it's like, no, no, no, we have nothing to do with it. What are we going to say, Tom? What I'm going to say is there's a case study on this if we want to really look at it. And it's called Portland, Oregon. And Portland, Oregon had all of these police officers, defund the police, Defund the police. Police officers took early retirement. Police officers went to other parts of the country being paid a partial pension on Portland because they retired. And then they became police officers elsewhere. Today in Portland, Oregon, the voters are asking to refund, not pay back, but let's fund the police. There is a shortage of 200 officers in Portland, Oregon today. The people feel less safe. The people are concerned about it. You can see. and bipartisan polling. There's the case study.
Starting point is 00:35:21 There's where this ends. This ends years later, because we're now four years later in Portland, Oregon, without adequate police and with an insecure populace, they're looking around and saying, what the hell happened? There's the case study. I just want to give a shout out to John Federman
Starting point is 00:35:35 and all the other Democrats that have been supporting John, oh, none are zero. No one else in the Democratic Party. So one thing he said is so important. He goes, two things can be true at once. So for John Fetterman, you can be a Democrat, but also have common sense. Unfortunately, it starts and stops with John Fetterman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Well, I mean, there's another Democrat right now that left the Democratic Party and became an independent who is a fan of her name is not Molly, but she's a fan of Molly. Rob told me the story this morning. I couldn't believe it. So, you know, here's Kirsten Cinema. Rob, again, this could be, this sounds like from a movie, like this doesn't sound real. Go on and play this clip. Former U.S. Senator Kirsten Cinema is being sued as a homewrecker for allegedly ruining a 14-year marriage. The lawsuit was filed in North Carolina by a woman named Heather Amel.
Starting point is 00:36:31 She's the now ex-wife of a former cinema bodyguard and Senate staffer. North Carolina is one of the few states that has a so-called homewrecker law, and that allows people to sue a spouse's lover who may have played a role in a breakup of a marriage. Amel claimed cinema had an affair with her husband during trips across the... country and around the world and that cinema used campaign funds to pay for all of it. The senator also accused of ethics violations for those same trips while she was still in office. Amel is seeking more than $25,000 in damages. Her ex-husband Matthew Amel was hired as a security guard for cinema in 2022.
Starting point is 00:37:06 He later joined her Senate staff. Court papers claim cinema set encrypted messages to Amel on the app signal that were of a romantic nature and told him to bring the drug MDMA or Molly. on a work trip so she could, quote, guide him through a psychedelic experience because he was suffering from PTSD. He's a former service worker. A lot of guidance. That's the word nowadays.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Three years ago was entanglement. Today, it's guide me. Let me guide you or to. Anyways, you can pause that right now. Okay, so there was $75,000 from cinema. Matthew and Heather. By the way, can we see what at least he looked like? He looks like the body.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I'd like to see. I want to know what the bodyguard looks like and what the ex-wife looks like. If you can pull that up there, is on a lawmaker, head of security, Matthew Amel, after he retired from the Army in 2022, according to the- But that's him, look at the way she's looking at him. Is that her behind her?
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yes, indeed. Is that Rob Gargulo? What is going on? Rob. Are you in the entangled? Rob, is that really him? Yes, sir. And then what does his wife look like,
Starting point is 00:38:10 ex-wife look like? Can we get a little bit of a cinema also paid for psychedelic treatment for a male who has struggled with people? Okay. Anyways, crazy story that just came out. Little weird story, but it's politics, you know, stuff like this happens. What do you think about the story, Vinnie? Where do you have with this? I mean, does it make you want to DM Kristen Cinema? You're like, you know what? She sounds interesting. Maybe, hey. Well, she's bisexual. She's bisexual. And Matthew began to communicate more frequently to point Heather, notice him single messaging and then send it including when no.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Listen, I mean, again, this is politics, and I know I brought up House of Cards recently. I want everybody out there. I mean, I'm being dead. I know you've seen it, right, Pat? You've seen the outside of cards? Of course. If you want to, and I'm being dead serious, you want to find out what Washington is like, politics, you know, sexual relations, gay. Go do me a favor.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Kevin Spacey did a freaking phenomenal job, and they freaking pull back the curtain on what Washington and these people are like. I'm not surprised. And using campaign financing? This is shocking. Here you have Senator Sin with me. I mean cinema. Cinema, Tom. Cinema. Not so. You know, drug sex rock and roll.
Starting point is 00:39:26 That joke didn't land, Tom. I just want you to know. Tom, I've been encouraging you to continue to continue to land. So I used to think drug sex rock and roll was like the soundtrack of the 60s. Now it's branches of government. Okay. Anne, do you care about the story? No, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I guess she wasn't a lesbian that long if she's gone after this guy. You got to respect that a little bit. I know, yeah, totally. We got one back. We'll have one back. That's always, I love this homewrecker law. I think every state should consider having one. I will say we don't know the truth because it's a legal filing.
Starting point is 00:40:04 But to bring it under homewrecking and not just have it come up generally in divorce papers, in general, you can't believe divorce papers. But, huh, homewreck or law. What do you think about homewrecking law? I don't know about home wrecking law, but I'll tell you what I think about Chris and cinema. Just when I thought politicians have reached an all-time low, here's Chris and Sinema and brings it right back. She's my new favorite politician. And I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 00:40:27 As someone that's born and raised in the nightlife scene in Miami, I've never met anybody that has ever done Molly, MDMA, marijuana, no drugs. Miami's a very clean thing. So I will give her credit about something. She would do Molly and her husband. When Joe Biden was trying to pass all these ridiculous. was there were two people that stood in his way, these independents. One was my favorite politician, Joe Manchin. And then she was the second one.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yeah. So Joe Manchin got a lot of credit for basically stopping this broke agenda. Do you care about this? I'll tell you why I don't care about it. It's the same thing with John Fetterman. As long as you're actually a policy person, I don't care if you have a brain injury. If you're wearing a hoodie everywhere you go,
Starting point is 00:41:14 do what's right for a man. If she wants to do some bisexual MDMA, I don't care as long as you're a person that's doing good policies. What do you think about the home record law? So what is the exact? Like you're wrecking, you know, you're ruining someone's marriage. No. It's a free country. I love it.
Starting point is 00:41:30 It'll slow people. It'll be a law. What is the exact law? You're going to go rule? It's a longstanding tort. It's been an existence through common law forever. It used to be called alienation of affection. I love that.
Starting point is 00:41:43 The alienation of affection act. This is a homewrecker law officially called alienation of affection allows a spouse to sue a third party for interfering with and causing the breakdown of their marriage seeking money. Adam, because you're probably going to get in trouble for this. Damaging for emotional harm, but it's only recognized in the U.S. in a handful of states. And Pat, just to go back to North Carolina, Mississippi and Utah. Okay. This is absolute BS. MDMA.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Obviously. Can I tell you why it's absolute BS? Why? I would be quick. So you're going to put the guilt and blame. on the third party who has no affiliation? What about the husband? What about the wife that she's?
Starting point is 00:42:19 But they know that you're married. That's the problem. But if they know that you're married, and they're coming in. Do you know how many women are attracted to men with a wedding rings? She's slipping MDMA in his drink. By the way, did you know, she's drugging him? That's illegal.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Well, in the 1970s and early 1890s, early 1980s, therapists quietly used MDMA in guided sessions. And the goal was to help couples lower fear, feel empathy, talk honesty, and just grab glow sticks and just go for it. But newsflash, drugs make you a little bit looser. Well, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:42:47 But guess what? Hey, if you're a girl or a guy and you're out there trying to sleep with, marry people and they have kids and they have a family, you're going to ruin their lives, I like the law going, hey, you know what? I'm going to sue you. You know how many young women should be in jail right now then? Well, guess what? Adam, it's a sin.
Starting point is 00:43:02 This will discourage them. Yeah. There's no discouraging young drunk women from making bad decisions. If you could get sued there will be. They don't care. Okay. So, I don't know. I think this.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Listen, don't take that market. away from Adam. I apologize. I'm a one woman man these things. Tom, go ahead, Tom. No, no, James, there was a very, you know, insert inappropriate joke. Go ahead, no, no, no, no. Go ahead, Tom.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Thank you for catching yourself. He's got a makeup for the last joke. James Bond, it's got all of the relationship premises that you'd ever want to see. But the one that I love is Daniel Craig and she says, says, am I not your type? And, um,
Starting point is 00:43:48 Ed. This joke is killing, go ahead. And he looks, and she says, am I not your type? Like, says,
Starting point is 00:43:55 forceful? No. Single. Yeah. Because he was, because he was only dating. We love you, Tom.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Because he's, he was messing with the married girl of the bad guy. I think that's old for two, right? Give another chance. Keep it going. Keep it going.
Starting point is 00:44:13 You'll, you'll, guys what do we love you in the chat? I don't know if you want to hear more than dad. Like listen, forget the home record law which fine I'm for the states that want to apply it makes sense have that in place. But for all the other stuff with her, you know, it's politics.
Starting point is 00:44:33 It's a nasty world. You know, I don't even think she's in the top 50 of the craziest stories that happens in politics. You remember that one. clip where the one guy was, well, where is he at Robbie? They were gay politicians. They were in there doing some stuff and the picture came on with a guy was sitting on a bent over in the guy. This doesn't make it in the top 50 like some. I bet there's other guys that are saying. That was a decade ago. This was recent. No, they had, um, they had sex in a congressional hearing
Starting point is 00:45:05 room. Yeah, that was 40. Oh, that was staff. This, this to me, talking about the senator. A little bit in the psych ward. This to me is the equivalent. of term limits. So you're going to have congressmen and women say, yeah, yeah. Let's pass laws to make sure I can't cheat or I have to leave office. In this case, the psychoer is pronounced Senate. Let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story.
Starting point is 00:45:30 And we got to get to Iran as well. So let's do a couple of other stories. I know. I'm just going to wait for that one. That one we're going to get to here in a minute. But let's get into, matter of mind, let's just get into Iran. Let's do it. Let's get into Iran.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Okay. So a lot's been happening. A lot's been happening. But let's go to the Brett Bear interview, Rob, if you can. Brett Bear is interviewing Iran's foreign minister, and they have multiple heated moments. Rob, I think we got three, four, five clips to show. But let's start off with the one where they right off the bat. Brett Bear calls him out and he gets a little bit uncomfortable and we'll watch the other ones. And again, these are claims. The numbers you hear confirmed is 2000 plus. the numbers you hear not confirmed, but a lot of publications are reporting right now, is 12,500. A lot of people in the streets are saying the number is 20, 30, 40,000.
Starting point is 00:46:22 But let's just go with that. Here's Brett Baer questioning the foreign minister of Iran. Go ahead, Rob. And you're suggesting that it's Israel and Mossad acting like Iranian forces, shooting the Iranian people to make casualties to spur on the action of President Trump. I'm just saying there's a lot of people that don't believe that, Mr. Foreign Minister. No, Musad. Musad has already confessed that. They may be on the ground, sir, but as far as them killing hundreds and hundreds of people
Starting point is 00:46:51 to make it look like you did, it does not appear in the video that we get out. Okay, so that's one of them, right? Now, go to the next one, Rob. And by the way, let's stay on that since he's talking about Israel and Assad. Netanyahu's plane leaves Israel's airspace mysteriously on January 14th, which is two days ago. Now, this could be, you know, the keyword here is mysteriously can be used in anything, right? It can be used. Adam mysteriously left on time this morning from Miami to come to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Mysteriously. Why did he mysteriously leave 15 minutes earlier, right? There could be a lot of different things. But Netanyahu playing leaves, Rob, do you have that clip of Netanyahu's playing leaving early from, and what they were comparing you to is the last two times here, He left this way. There was an attack. One of them was on a nuclear air site.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Nuclear sites that they had. Yeah, this is him, apparently leaving mysteriously. Where is he going to? So they reported on this. This was all over the place. So I'm going to come back to this story since we're on Israel. And then I'm going to go back to the foreign minister. Netanyahu halts Trump from bombing Iran as Israel delivers vital intelligence on regime crackdown.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And Tom, I want to come to you with this one here. Benjamin Netanyahu asked Donald Trump to not launch military strikes against the Ayatollah's Islamic regime over fears Iran would retaliate against Israel. The Israel Prime Minister spoke to Trump on Wednesday shortly before the presidential report. Report is that he had received information from very important sources on the other side that Iran had stopped executing anti-regime protesters. Netanyahu had previously spoken to J.D. Vans on Tuesday the same day that White House officials met to discuss military options against Iran, according to the New York Times. Other Gulf nations, including Qatar, Saudi, Oman, and Egypt have also implored the White House not to attack Iran over fears it could lead to regional conflict. Tom, thoughts on this story. So there's two thoughts here that are flowing.
Starting point is 00:48:54 One is that Netanyahu is in both sides of the president's ears. One side is in there, you know, you have to do this with Iran. Iran's the manipulator. This is what's going on. And he's sort of a flattering bird on one shoulder trying to get. Trump to move one way. And on the other way, as it said, genuinely, Israeli intelligence was saying, hey, we're not fully ready for what they might do. And they're so unstable, they might do more than a a more rational, less rebellious Iran would do right now because their backs are up against the
Starting point is 00:49:29 wall and they're cornered in these other areas. Be careful. And then you have the other Arab state saying, hang on, this could escalate. So I'm more with the second group that said that, that with a destabilized Iran, they might react more irrationally, more harshly than they would normally in a more stable, if you can use stable in Iran in the same sentence, a political zone, if you will, and that everyone's out there, Pat, saying Iran's destabilized, you don't know what kind of crazy reaction they might have here. Maybe we don't want to do this right now. And on the other hand, you have people saying, oh, there you go again, Netanyahu. who's right in Trump's here,
Starting point is 00:50:09 and he's kind of guiding him more than we all think. I think it's the latter. Adam. So let me just get this straight. Brett Baer, professional journalist, is pressing the foreign secretary. What is this exact title? Abbasaragshi.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Okay. Foreign minister. Foreign minister. And he's basically saying, hey, word on the street is you're murdering your own people. And he goes, dot, dot, dot. Well, it's Israel, right? And Brett Baer goes, yeah, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Is that the basic premise of that conversation, if you don't mind? Okay, got it. Well, let's go with some facts here. Does Israel take out Iranian nuclear scientists? You betcha they do. Does Israel take out leaders and generals of Hamas and Hezbollah? Beep, beep. Now maybe your belt doesn't work and anything about that?
Starting point is 00:51:02 You bet they do. What Israel and Rasad does not do is kill innocent people. Hey, Iranian regime, that's your job, buddy. That's your job because the reality is, you know, they say that sunlight is the best disinfectant. Do you remember when your good friend Reza-Pala V told everybody a week ago, 8 p.m., everybody get out there and protest and do it at 8 p.m. Do you remember this? Do you know what happened by 8.30 p.m.? They cut the Internet and started murdering thousands of people.
Starting point is 00:51:34 and there's videos this is the number one story in the Wall Street Journal a massacre happened the 24 hours that bloodied Iran and by the way this Wall Street Journal
Starting point is 00:51:45 pretty credible newspaper they don't mention Israel and Massad once they're looking at you Ayatollah Khomeini for killing your own people now if you want to scroll down
Starting point is 00:51:55 just a little bit Rob you can show actual videos there's a video of Iranian police murdering their own people. So you know, they say, like, don't believe your lying eyes. Well, what is this? So to me, it's absolute buffoonery for anyone that believes something like this.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Last point. Brett Baer, I know we had a great moment with him. I don't know if you negotiated his new contract. He deserves it. That's a real journalist. Sidetrack, hey, Tucker Carlson, maybe that's what you should do when you have the president of Iran on, not give him sort of a fluffy interview.
Starting point is 00:52:37 That's how you hold these people's feet to the fire and represent the people of Iran, not your own Qatari interest. That's my opinion. And where are you out on this? This specific, so, because we got a few more Iran story going on. First, I'll just say briefly why I don't care about this story, which is, I'm sorry, I just don't care about the rest of the world right now.
Starting point is 00:52:55 We're sort of in the habit of this since 9-11, but what happens in Iran really doesn't affect this. this country. I love Venezuela. I wrote about it two weeks ago. This is our hemisphere. It does give us an opportunity to talk about the worst, you know, the masterful handling of Iran by Jimmy Carter. And that's always good to remind people of that he created this mess. But it just, it doesn't matter to us. We need to get back to our country. Our country is in a lot of trouble. You know, why not Gambia? Why not Rwanda? I don't want to hear about other countries. Anyway, that's why.
Starting point is 00:53:29 By the way, you know what's crazy. I fully understand that argument from an American. I fully get it. And for me, a part of it is who should care more about Iran and their regime than Israel. Us or Israel? Israel. Israel. Their neighbors.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Regional neighbor. Remember, Monroe, Donro is what? This is our hemisphere. This is our hemisphere. This is our job. This is what we're going to be taking care of. This affects us. This is our neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:54:03 This is what I'm going to be taking care of. I'm fully with that. Having said that, on the opposite side, and I want to give your thoughts on this as well, is for the Iranians around the world who, they live in Europe, they live in Spain, they live in Paris, they live in L.A. They live in Beverly Hills. Yeah, they live in Chicago. They live in New York.
Starting point is 00:54:22 They're here. You know, they're living in Miami. These guys want to see this regime fall because they see what happened to their. their families. And the last 47 years, in their opinion, nothing's happened because no U.S. president has been wanting to get involved and do anything to them and intervene. And the last time they didn't intervene was with Jimmy Carter and the Shah. And the Shah fell. Khomeini came in. Since then it's been chaotic. So, and then you can go back and look at the history. Have back in the days Mossadegh, he wins. He's there for two years and four months. He nationalizes the oil. And then
Starting point is 00:54:58 UK is like, wait a minute, you're not doing that British Petroleum, OPEC, we're there, we're running all this stuff. You guys don't have the infrastructure to run. If we came and build a whole thing in Abadon and we're doing this, no. So then they got rid of them. They brought the Shah in and the Shah stays there for 37 years. And the market opens up for everybody and the Middle East is at peace. So the argument comes from that side, that it created a lot of noise.
Starting point is 00:55:20 And so this last week, when you're talking about Reza Pala, I be asking the Iranians to go on the streets, this is an interview that he got criticized. for heavily because in this interview, Nora, I don't know what her last name is it, Nora O'Donnell. Nora O'Donnell from, is this CBS? CBS. She's an incredible journalist. She has a very good pointed question, Rob, if you want to play this clip, go forward. And as you are urging people to protest and go to the streets, the death toll is rising in Iran. This violent crackdown continues just as it has in past attempted revolutions. I mean, is it responsible to be sending citizens in Iran to their deaths? Do you bear some responsibility?
Starting point is 00:56:02 As I said, as I said, this is a war, and war has casualties. In fact, in order to preserve and protect and minimize the death toll, minimize innocent victims yet again be killed by this regime, action is needed. The regime is going to try and brutalize its citizenry as it has always done. But we are in a fight for liberation. I didn't ask the people to come to the streets to fight against the regime because I wanted so. They asked me to step in, to help them and to be their voice on the outside world, to do everything that we can. So we make this uprising successful this time. And I think we have some serious leaders that understand what is necessary, that understand, what is necessary, that understand.
Starting point is 00:56:53 the ask of the Iranian people and are responding to that. I think President Trump is responding to the call that the Iranian people have. The Iranian people have heard his words. They are naming streets after him in Iran. You can pause right there. There's a difference. So when President Trump and his team watches this, what do you think they say? Do they say this is the guy we can get behind and help Iran be free again?
Starting point is 00:57:20 or do you think they say, I don't know if he has it or not. I don't know. Do they look at this and say, this show strong leadership? Do they look at us and say, this guy's going to be able to go and, you know, get, win the people over and do that?
Starting point is 00:57:33 I don't know. Here's what Trump did say. The president said, Trump praises Iran Exile Royal as very nice, but doesn't go as far as fully supporting regime change bid. Okay, Rob, is this the Hugh Hewitt clip? We've seen this one already. So I know this one here on him saying this.
Starting point is 00:57:53 If you want to play this one more time, you can go out and play the clip because it's only 30 seconds. Would you meet with Crown Prince Padlai, who is the heir to the constitutional monarchy? He doesn't want to rule. He would be a symbolic ruler like King Charles. Well, I've watched him, and he seems like a nice person. But I'm not sure that it would be appropriate at this point to do that as president. I think that we should let everybody go out there and we see who emerges.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I'm not sure necessarily that I, it would be here. So that's you, he would. Now, this is an interview with Reuters on Wednesday, that this is a different interview. In an Oval Office interview with Reuters, he said that while it was up, Pallavi seems like a nice guy, Trump wasn't sure the Iranian population would accept the crown prince as the country's leader. The conversation happened moments after Trump appeared to pump the brakes on an American military intervention, something the president has been threatening for weeks as the Islamic regime has brutally cracked down on widespread protests.
Starting point is 00:58:52 He seems very nice, but I don't know how he'd play within his own country, the president said of Palavi, and we really aren't up to that point yet. I don't know whether or not his country would accept his leadership, and certainly if they would, that would be fine with me. Trump said it was possible that the government of Iran's supreme leader, Ali Khan, could fall amid the demonstrations, though added in truth, anti-regime can fall
Starting point is 00:59:15 whether or not it falls or not. It's going to be an interesting period of time. Trump added, Pallavi was born into Iran, the son of the U.S. back Shah, Moimed Rzajah al-Qa Ali, who Iranians overthrew, the 65-year palavi, who lives in D.C. suburbs, has played a very vocal role in the protest from abroad, but on the ground, there appears to be a little organized support for the country
Starting point is 00:59:41 to be to again be ruled by the monarchy. So that's what... Just for me watching him speak and with all due respect, and again, he's not the guy. These people where my mom and dad and my grandmother grandparents are from where your whole family's from,
Starting point is 00:59:59 they don't need a Zoom call leader. Okay? They need somebody that's going to be there with them on the ground. Okay? Rezal Paladvi lives in Washington, D.C. He's been there for 47 years. And this isn't a knock on him.
Starting point is 01:00:13 He has a life. He has kids. They're in school. They have jobs. Whatever they're doing, this is a whole different situation. And by the way, just really fast on the Israel thing, we all know the arguments, the debates we've got into about me and Israel and criticizing all this stuff. Put that to the side.
Starting point is 01:00:29 This is an organic revolution. Enough of the Israel put people in the, just shut up with that noise, okay? Their leaders tweeting stuff that's saying that we will kill the president, him getting shot in the head. we won't miss, okay? They're murdering protesters. You know I saw Pat? I'm not going to show it. I didn't want to send it to Rob.
Starting point is 01:00:46 The IRGC are going into hospitals looking for people that were protesting that are injured, and they're shooting them in the head. I saw that. And I saw the bodies and the body bags with the catheters because they were in that room, okay? And I'm tired. And Anne makes a very, very fair point. Why do we care? We have enough problems going on.
Starting point is 01:01:07 We have enough stuff over there. The only reason I say we have to care. And is because if we let them put somebody else in that's worse than this guy or another guy that's Islamist or whatever, it's a problem that's going to get worse and get worse and get worse. And I'm not trying to say we have to be the police of the world, but these people are begging for help. And if you don't mind, Pat, this got me emotional. I'm probably not even able to go through it. I want to play a phone call that was recorded of, I think, an American-Iranian girl from here.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Her mother finally calls her and gets a hold of her. She can't even speak freely because of the The regime is surveilling them Just tell me this doesn't hurt you Go ahead, Rob Watch this They're shooting people in machine guns Don't cry, we're okay
Starting point is 01:01:55 I called you 15 times We're okay Can you hear me? Don't cry They killed 12,000 people They massacred all of We ran away. Can't talk in the phone.
Starting point is 01:02:15 The phones are controlled. I'm going to say something. Tell me something. It's a very bad situation. And she's crying. Stop. This goes on. They've killed so many.
Starting point is 01:02:30 She's in her 70s. She goes, she's weak. She can't do anything. So for people to sit there and try to blame everybody else, the people have done it organically. God bless them. I hope for them. This is where we have to help.
Starting point is 01:02:42 We have to help. And with all due respect, Reza, nice guy, you're the first one that called him a nice, sweet guy. Trump always talks off the, he doesn't BS, he doesn't sugarcoat. The moment he was asked, he goes, yeah, no, he's not the guy.
Starting point is 01:02:55 He knows he's not the guy, Pat. He knows. You know, your discussion of Mossadegh and Shah, the Shah remind me of why I think we should not be getting involved. And yes, it would be great if the people overthrew and, you know, fixed it themselves. I don't think they will. I think most of the world is not fit for democracy. Mosadegh was a ridiculous clown. He had to be taken out. He was taken out by the CIA and the CIA
Starting point is 01:03:18 and the United States supported the shot. Everything was great then. As long as we're installing puppets around the world, things are going to go great. You don't want to let them vote. And especially you don't want to let them vote now. I mean, I don't think I really want to lose the Iranians or Persians, as we call them in Beverly Hills. They're great. They're totally right wing. The most civilized, educated Iranians have left. And it's the same thing with Venezuela. It's the same thing with Cuba.
Starting point is 01:03:47 If we're going to be installing puppet governments and holding them up and we have to protect them, let's start with our hemisphere and see how it goes. And then maybe we can get back. And also, let's also remember that this is all Jimmy Carter's fault. Are you joking or are you being serious? There is all Jimmy Carter's fault. I agree. I fully agree with you there. Totally. And what was his name?
Starting point is 01:04:10 Richard Falk at Princeton, who promised to everyone. Don't worry. The people will vote for Comani. It will be wonderful. The people's revolution. Yeah, there's your Princeton professor for you. Yeah, I've seen that as well. Look, we've seen it in our government. When a nice guy that should be an ambassador or should be in a think tank becomes president, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, you have problems. because you need leaders in times of crisis.
Starting point is 01:04:36 And this guy happens to be the son of the prior leader. That doesn't make him, that gives him proximity, that doesn't give him the presence, the power, the personality, and everything he needs to lead. And I think he appears to be a very nice man. He appears to be, you know, ambassadorial. He's got certain presence. But is he ready to go into this beehive and to do what's necessary to lead it through it?
Starting point is 01:05:02 I don't think so. And we can make assessments like that because we saw it happen in our government. I was of age when Jimmy Carter, you know, basically on these human rights campaigns in the name of human rights, ignored warning signs of destability in governments in the name of human rights. And this mess started. We've seen it. And this is not what the world needs. The world needs strength and clarity in leadership that is probably needs to be protected. by the U.S. government to get the job done what they need to do, Adam. Sir, I don't care one way or another about Reza Palavi.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I'm not on his team or not on his team. But I am on the side of the Iranian people, no doubt. So when he says, this is a war, we have to do. This is not a war, home boy. This is one side with guns and the other side with cell phones at best. Massacre, it's called. So that's not a war. That's number one.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Number two, as much as I love our friend Anne Coulter, I do care about the other side of the world. And I'll tell you why. I think this is as America first as it gets supporting the people of Iran because of China. I understand the Monroe Doctrine and the Donro Doctrine. But if Venezuela falls, which is looking very likely, obviously, and if Iran falls, that helps America in monumental ways and destroys China. Because where do they get their oil? Venezuela and Iran. So these are moves that on the surface, I get it.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Listen, no more foreign wars. We want to be some sort of isolationist, maybe be a little more pragmatic. But if these moves help bring down China, that would only help America. Last point is this. There's this whole thing of, you know, everyone, Dave Smith, the famous, famous comedian, hilarious, just, you know, worldwide comedian said, Iran is not a threat. Iran is not a threat. Do you remember that tweet, Rob?
Starting point is 01:07:00 Do you have that? Well, here's some evidence as to why I sent it to you on a text of why Iran is actually a threat, and we do need to pay attention to the country that has coined the phrase, death to America. Do you have that tweet, Rob, that I sent it to you? So they tried to kill Trump. They tried to kill Secretary Pompeo.
Starting point is 01:07:20 They tried to kill John Bolton. Not the worst thing. By the way, everybody's texting that Twitter is down. Just so you know. That's why he can't follow that. Right now, Twitter is down. There's evidence. And what did they just say about Trump?
Starting point is 01:07:34 Next time we won't miss. They'll miss. Did he not say that? But the point is they're threatening our president. And excuse me, we're one earlob away from Kamala Harris or weekend at Biden's being president. So these geopolitical conversations do have ramifications. And when someone who presents himself as a smartest person in the room said something like this, you tend to maybe this guy's got some credibility.
Starting point is 01:07:59 And then what happens is our old friend Dave Smith runs into someone infinitely smarter than him named Coleman Hughes. And all of a sudden, Dave's back to being a struggling comedian, not so much a pundit. Yeah. So by the way, if you want to go back to, is it shown Twitter's down wrap? Yes. Reports are shown that Twitter's on. Can you show that again, the report you had up?
Starting point is 01:08:18 Yes, hang on one. Which one is that? It's a four or five. It's down. Down detector and it just spiked that. Right there is. Yeah. So it is down.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Okay. Reports are coming in. But it's saying it's not. not fully down. The services appear to be up and running, but as of right now, it's still down. Anyways, go back to the Kalshi part. Go back to the Kalshi part, Rob, on you just had it. Ali Khamenei out as Supreme Leader. A week ago, 75%. Today, down to pretty much, you know, 25, you know, depending on by when, September 1st, July, 1st, April 1st, 2026, down. Then if you go to Muhammad Azapalavi, because, you know, this has to
Starting point is 01:08:56 to be up. Will the United States recognized Reserval Palavi as a leader of Iran a week ago, 90%. 90%? Yes. 90% yes. Today, January 8th. 28%. Stop it. Yes. Sir, may I understand this? Yeah. A week ago was 90% chance? I'm showing you what Cal she says 97.6% chance was January 8th. Today is the 15th. 16. So one week ago. One week ago, he went from 98% to 28%. So he's the Pierre Pauliev of Iran. He is the Pierre Pauliev of Iran. And by the way, the last three days, Adam,
Starting point is 01:09:34 he spent time with our leaders in Washington. So can I ask you a very hard? Yeah, 100%. What did Tom just say? He said that they spent time with our leaders in Washington. And what does that mean, though? The meaning's the more and more that people have been around him, they recognize he ain't that dude.
Starting point is 01:09:48 That's what Tom is trying to show. Yeah. I get Tom Cornacki. Go ahead, Adam. Why do you think that is, Pat? sincerely the more you spend time around let me ask you a question let me ask you question before that yeah let me let me ask you question though here's here's a question let's just say do you think for iran to go through their revolution a country that any day anybody complains about the second amendment
Starting point is 01:10:13 if iran had second amendment none of this stuff is happening right now by the way if iran had Second Amendment. If the Iranian people could defend themselves, you think the cops going out there with a shotgun shooting people? No. Like you realize in America of something like that, you know who would be the first one coming out? Mongols, Hells Angels, Biker gangs, they're going to come and so what are you doing? Do you remember that one time? I think the George Floyd, if I'm not mistaken, riots was going on and they decided to go to Huntington Beach, if I'm not mistaken, in LA. That is correct. The biker gangs rolled up and said, come on, come through us. And they're like, Change of plans.
Starting point is 01:10:49 We're leaving this place. We're going to go to different places. Second Amendment in America. Phenomenal, every single day you should be thankful. The fact that we have that on America was. This is it, Rob, when they were trying to do it? Yeah, protests and all of a sudden are like, no, you're not going to come through here. Forget about the cops.
Starting point is 01:11:06 The biker folks showed up and were like, yeah, we'll skip today's deal of doing anything with these guys. So, but let me go back to this. To have a revolution happen in a country like Iran, Against a regime like IRGC, Islamic Revolutionary Guard, in a society where it's like the supreme leader, the phrase they use, their supreme leader, their supreme, American journalists say their supreme leader, their supreme leader. What's their, his name is Khomeenei. It's not your supreme leader or somebody else.
Starting point is 01:11:38 That's their supreme leader, right? Chomenei. What do you think you're going to need to do if you're in America as an outsider? Actually, say you are part of Trump's. advisors. And somebody brings a guy in who's sitting right in front of us right now, interviewing to be the leader of Iran to go through the transition. What five questions do you have for him if you want to support him? What five questions? Are you moving to Iran to? Are you willing to move to Iran? So let you say that's one. And he says, of course, but he's been here for 48 years.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Are you willing to put your life in the line and die for this cause? Is that really the real questions? I don't know. What percentage of people support you? Say that again? What percentage of people support you. What percentage of he says to you in the population, not of Beverly Hills? He says to you 80% in Iran. I don't believe it. Okay, so you don't believe it. What's your next question? Do you think Iran wants a monarchy or a democracy? Let's let the people decide because that's the answer he's given to everybody. That's not our business. That's the people's business. That's what he's saying. If I was them, I want leverage him like, hey, listen, you're going to listen to what we say. But what are the questions do you have? Like, what is the most important question that
Starting point is 01:12:46 you have. What makes you a great leader? Okay. So let me, let me say before he walked in, we're sitting together here, and here's what we're saying. We made a decision, hey, guys, if we like this guy, at what level do we want to intervene? Okay. Your JD Vance, you say, listen, no more than what we did with Venezuela. I don't want troops on the ground, stay there, Iraq, 20 years, $3 trillion. I agree. Marco Rubio says, well, it depends on what we're going to get in return, okay? Because let's just say Mark Rubio is a little bit more of a new, He's open to the idea and he's having a conversation. But let's just say the five of us, that's an odd number, which is good, three, two,
Starting point is 01:13:23 three people are going to say, and okay, we say, look, if it's a little bit of intervention, I'm open to it. But full on, I want to interview this guy to see if we can get the job done with a little bit of intervention or do we need to do everything for him. So if that's the mindset that we're going in with, what's the most important question to ask? Whose support does he need? Whose support does he need? Not just the people who also support do you need.
Starting point is 01:13:51 The military. The military. So I'm going to ask and say, okay, how many people from the military flipping and supporting you? Show me. How many of them? So you know what I would do? If you're running, like if you really, really, really want to do something,
Starting point is 01:14:08 why don't we see how many Iranian military have turned on to come support of you? And by the way, you know how it starts? by pockets. You get Tabriz. You get, you know, Abadon, you get smaller to power. You don't go straight to Tehran. You start from the outside and you come fully inside because there are a lot of people that are on the verse,
Starting point is 01:14:25 but they don't want to be the first. You ever seen that one TED Talks where the guy shows and says, here's the guy that just goes out and he starts dancing like this and it's the most embarrassing dance. Have you seen this video? You ever seen this video or no? Where the guy is just dancing like a horrible dancing and everyone's looking at him.
Starting point is 01:14:41 But he goes for five seconds. and they're thinking he's going to stop. He goes for 20 seconds, and they're thinking he's going to stop. 30 seconds later, another guy goes in, and he starts, he doesn't know what he's doing. He's just kind of going like this. He says 20 seconds after the second guy, a couple hundred people are dancing with him.
Starting point is 01:15:01 And he says, the most important person is the first true believer in you that is willing to step up. Who has stood up from the military unit and said, we're all with resop al-Avi? Who? That's the question I'm going to be asking, I'm going to ask the question, has the military from Iran flipped to support this man? What else would you ask him?
Starting point is 01:15:20 Because I think that's really how this works. You know, yesterday, two days ago, we're interviewing a guy that wants to be the general manager by David consulting. And we have some finalists, but he's the final guy. He interviews with Tom, Paul. He interviews with Casey, a couple other people he interviews. But then he comes with me and RJ. And then we go to dinner with them to introduce them to the BDC guys. BDC guys are interviewing with them.
Starting point is 01:15:41 What do you think we're asking afterwards? What questions are you asking? How do you guys feel? Do you believe who he says he is? Is he qualified for the job? Do you think he's going to be long term? There's a bunch of stuff I would be asking. So to me, if this all of a sudden happened to the Iranian people who are saying Trump is Jimmy Carter 2.0, maybe instead of saying is Trump Jimmy Carter 2.0, Jimmy Carter's case was there was already a stable guy in Iran named Mohamed Reza Shah Pahlavi that had figured everything out.
Starting point is 01:16:11 This was a guy that was not afraid of calling people out. He stood his ground. He gave his opinion. In this scenario, this is not the same case as Jimmy Carter 2.0 because Iran doesn't have a leader. During Carter, there was a definite leader called Muhammad Hazar Shah Pahlavi. Right now, there's not a definite leader. If there was, they would have easily said yes. So I said this a week ago.
Starting point is 01:16:38 God forbid you call out anything with Rezaa Pahlavi's community. have no, by the way, for a guy who's a massive fan of Rezaapalavi, the family, for a guy that collects everything I can get my hands, if you want to give me a nice gift, get me an old coin, gold of Rezaapalavi, get me old magazines of Mohammed Rezaa Pahlavi. I have all those collections of my safe in different places that I hold on to. But God forbid you say something and criticize him even just a little bit. They shiver. How dare you? Reza al-A-Levi to them is not a candidate. To them, it's their Jesus.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Yes. It's their Jesus. It's their prophet Muhammad. God forbid you criticize and say anything about him. Now, by the way, the one thing on the opposite side, so to me, I said this last week about Mohammad Razazazaz al-Pal-A-Levi. I said, if you don't pull it off, you're done. I said this a week ago.
Starting point is 01:17:32 And the community lost their shit, and they came. Who the hell do you think you are? All this other stuff. Week later, here's where you are. So guess what? Does it mean it's done done? It's very close to being done. Very close to being done.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Why? Because somebody couldn't close a deal. Because somebody couldn't close a deal. Guess what? Diplomists, you know what? Well, no, it's Elon Musk's fault. It's Trump's fault. It's your fault.
Starting point is 01:17:56 No. It's called be a flipping diplomat. It's called go build those relationships. It's called sit back down and realize how terrible you are. I'll build them relationships with individuals. And then go, I have to talk to those people. You know who Trump called two days ago? About the 10% credit card interest rate.
Starting point is 01:18:15 She was shell shocked. Elizabeth Warren. Yeah, that's right. Elizabeth Warren's being honest, pick up the phone. Elizabeth Warren's being interviewed and they're saying, did Trump really call you? Yes. How did you feel about it?
Starting point is 01:18:28 I'm not going to lie. I was very surprised that he called me and asked me, what do you think about the 10%? What is that called? That's called diplomacy. So, you know, I hope you guys hold him accountable because he does play very important role. And to Reza Pallavi's credit, he did an interview yesterday, which, by the way, it's the best one he's done. It's the best one he's done.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I'm trying to see who it was with. I watched it. He did a phenomenal job with this interview. I liked his resolve. I liked how he handled himself in this interview. I wish I could find it. There's so many of them he's doing right now. But it was probably the best one that he did.
Starting point is 01:19:07 and I'm not going to stop challenging them. I'd like to host a podcast with bringing different people from the Iranian side to talk to a bunch of different guys that have different opinions and we'll be doing that here soon. But look, to the Iranian people breaks my heart because my only first cousin in the world,
Starting point is 01:19:23 my only first cousin, and I only have one first cousin. My dad had two brothers and a sister between the three, they had zero kids. And they all live past their 60s. It's not like they didn't have a chance. So two brothers and a sister, zero. kids, so I got no cousins from my dad's side. My mom's side, she only had one sibling. Him and I
Starting point is 01:19:43 were very close back in the days, Robert. And he has one son. I only have one first cousin. You know my one first cousin lives in Iran. That's where he's at. My only first cousin lives in Iran. So we have family there. We have friends there. We have a lot of people there. And I really wanted to see this being able to be pulled off. But unfortunately, the more and more this dies down, you know, and it gets quieter and quieter, and the momentum goes away. People, families have to go take their kids back and go to school and go back to their jobs, and they realize they had the greatest two-week run. They got so close. Does that mean Trump's not going to do an attack like he did with Lassam Soleimani? No. Does that mean people can get killed?
Starting point is 01:20:24 Remember how Israel works. Here's how Israel works. The Israel is also, and Trump is also very much of a, let's make a story up. Netanyahu told them that you shouldn't attack and all this other stuff. Oh my God. Netanyahu controls Trump. Three days later, boom, seven leaders in Iran get killed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:44 To just also appreciate the president's unpredictability of what he's capable of doing. But number one rule, when that man came into interview with Whitkoff, interview with Lindsey Graham, and he's leaving, what set of questions you're asking? Are these guys walking out calling Trump saying,
Starting point is 01:21:01 I think he's the guy let's roll. He's going to get it down. You need to meet with him. That didn't happen. Why not? Because if you would have met with him, what would you have told me, Tom, if you were impressed with a candidate?
Starting point is 01:21:12 Say you work for President Trump. Say you met with Reza Pallavi. Say you were blown away. Say your name is Whitkoff. What advice would you give me if I'm Trump? I think we can support this guy because he can pull the coalition together and he's got the support of the military.
Starting point is 01:21:25 He'll need some of our intervention, some of our support. But I think his arms are long enough to pull the coalition together. If you believed in him, how quickly would you say I should meet with him? Mr. President, I think you should meet with him immediately now that he's met with all of us and we've got
Starting point is 01:21:41 our stuff in order. I think we need to make the plan. Does that sound logical? Yes. And it didn't happen. So why it didn't happen? And by the way, I'll change the names and listen to this. You know who General VIR is? VER.E.R. Very famous man in history. General Vair was the evil general henchman
Starting point is 01:21:57 for Ferdinand Marcos. And General Vair pledged that he would support Mark So that's when the CIA said, okay, Marcos is our guy. Because for 20 years, General Vair supported Marcos in the Philippines. And that's what kept the peace in the Philippines. And the only reason that we selected Ferdinand Marcos, the CIA, was because he had the support of General Vair. So this has happened before in history where the U.S. make sure that that leader can carry the coalition.
Starting point is 01:22:27 And that's exactly what we have here. And he can't. Final thoughts. I just want to thank you for your breakdown because it helped me come to this conclusion. Reza Palavi is the opposite of Donald Trump. Let me explain. You talk about being battle tested. We have one woman on this panel today who predicted in 2015 Donald Trump would be the president of United States.
Starting point is 01:22:49 But she did that when it was inconvenient and he was 1% chance. But what did Trump do? Get up on that stage and debate how many people? Everybody. 20 different people. Boom. Jeff Bush, boom, Marco Rubio, boom, boom, Scott Walker, Bing, Bing, Bing,
Starting point is 01:23:03 and he won it. Because in America, you know, we've been so focused on DEI, we still don't forget, this is still a meritocracy. And Trump showed up and said, I'm that dude. And he took out Hillary Clinton. The final point is here, just because your father was great, doesn't mean that you're going to be great.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Is Michael Jordan's son in the NBA? No. Is Magic Johnson's son in the NBA? No, he's wearing a dress somewhere. Okay? Did Bill Clinton's wife become president? No. Is Barack Obama's wife, wife becoming president? No.
Starting point is 01:23:37 So there's a meritocracy is what America's founded on. This monarchy, Iran, if that's what you're looking for. But in America, that's not what we believe in. Yeah. If you have any thoughts, I'll give it to you. If now, we'll go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. She's dying to talk more about Iran.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Sounds good. Fair enough. All right, let's go to next story. So this story I want to get to is cartoonist, Dilbert's final message before his death to his ex-wife, by the way. Have you guys seen this to his ex-wife? And by the way, while this happened, okay, should I show what journalist Victoria Edoz says,
Starting point is 01:24:12 or should I say that afterwards? Let's play the clip first, Rob. Play the clip of what the ex-wife is saying with a letter that he wrote, Rob. If you got it, pull it up. Very emotional. I had to retweet it. I got this from Danny Canal sent it to me.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Danny Canal sent it to me. out to Danny. Watch this clip here. Go for it. Everyone. Unfortunately, this isn't good news. Of course, he waited till just before the show started. He's not with us right anymore. I'm going to try to get through this. He has a final message that he wanted to say.
Starting point is 01:24:53 So I'm going to try to read it. Trying to be strong. If you are reading this, things did not go well for me. I have a few things to say before I go. My body felled before my brain. I am of sound mind as I write this January 1st, 2006. If you wonder about any of my choices for my estate or anything else, please know I'm free of any reason or inappropriate influence of any sort, I promise.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Next, many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go. I'm not a believer, but I have to admit the risk-reward calculation for doing so look so attractive to me. So here I go. I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and look forward to spending an eternity with him. The part about me not being a believer should be quickly resolved if I wake up in heaven. I won't need any more convincing than that. I hope I'm still qualified for entry. With your permission,
Starting point is 01:26:27 I'd like to explain my life. For the first part of my life, I was focused on making myself a worthy husband and parent as I find, as a way to find meaning. That worked. But marriages don't always last forever. You can pause it right there. You can pause it right there.
Starting point is 01:26:54 And it goes on. It's a six-minute clip. If you haven't seen it, I recommend you watching it. So in the letter, he accepts Jesus Christ. his ex-wife is reading it, very sentimental. And then you get this story. Journalist Victoria Edel faces backlash over Scott Adams' obiturately disgraceful hit piece.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Scott Adams' disgraced Dilbert creator dies at 68 years old. Okay, Vinnie, I'm going to come to you with this, sir, because I know you got a lot of thoughts on this. How do you react to this, Vinnie? Well, I mean, A, you know, God rest his soul. I think, you know, a couple of people saw the, I'm saying that they, when she read the letter, very emotional. If you weren't really, really paying attention, you would see, you know, this was somebody, and I knew me and you were to get into this conversation. So Adam, he's, he's, this is his last letter as he's dying and he's saying, and I'll read it quick.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Next, many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go. I'm not a believer, but I have to admit the risk, reward calculation for doing so looks attractive, so here I go. I accept Jesus Christ and my Lord and Savior. And I look forward to spending my eternity with him. The part about me not being a believer should be quickly resolved if I wake up in heaven. I won't need any more convincing than that. I hope I'm still qualified for entry. It's funny and as cool as it seems.
Starting point is 01:28:13 It's kind of making a mockery of Christianity. Because you know when we talked about Adam, you always asked the question. Vinny, you mean a person could be a murderer? And at the last moment, he says, I'm sorry. And he goes to heaven. The same thing with the murderers that was on the cross with Jesus, but that one of them actually asked for forgiveness and was truly meant it and God, Jesus said that you're going to be with me in paradise.
Starting point is 01:28:33 This to me is like a well, last ditch effort. Well, if it's true, then let's do it. I think I hope to God, Adam, that after this funny moment that he had, he really did have a moment where he seriously stopped and said Jesus, or somebody spoke to him, a pastor, a priest, and actually gave it to him. And actually he was honest because this right here is what you talk about, that insurance policy. Oh, I'm going to die.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Well, all right, I believe in Jesus. That's not how it works. That's not how it works in this situation. I will, however, Patrick, there was a video that he made that hit me so hard. I sent it to Rob, and even Rob. Rob, you showed this to your son? Yeah, I sent it to him to watch. It is such an awesome thing, guys.
Starting point is 01:29:14 It's about laziness. I don't know if you saw. Have you seen this? No. It's about laziness. And it's, he says that it's the habit of thinking about the effort instead of thinking about the outcome. I have Rob playing it at 1.5, so it's a little bit fast. Look at how amazing this is.
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Starting point is 01:30:25 Okay, so he says you can reverse. laziness by simply developing a habit of thinking more about, like, for instance, the delicious food that you're going to eat instead of, like, the effort that it takes to do it. Like, he said, like, with kids, he goes, why do people have three or four kids? If people sat there and they're like, oh, man, having the kid is the worst, you always hear them saying, I'm going to have more kids because it's, you're, you're focusing on the, in between instead of what you're going to, is this a say, Rob? The payoff?
Starting point is 01:30:52 Yeah, the payoff, which is actually pretty freaking awesome. So that's a great thing that he had, but you're going to play it? I think we got it. Get a few more heads to explode. What if laziness is nothing but a habit of thinking about the effort instead of thinking about the outcome? What if you could reverse laziness by simply developing a habit of thinking more about the, let's say, the delicious food that you would like to enjoy instead of how long it would take you to get up and go get it? But the real question is if you were to test this at home and try to see if you can think,
Starting point is 01:31:25 more about the good outcome and less about the work, would you get it done? Why is it to people have a second child? Why does a woman who goes through this awful, awful childbirth have a second child? Don't they always say the same thing? If I remembered how bad this was, I wouldn't do it again. Right? So the not thinking about the effort is vital to actually the survival of humanity. If we focused on how hard it was to have a baby, you just wouldn't do it. Or you do, you do too little of it. But if you focus on how awesome it would be to have a family, well, there you go. you're going to go through the pain because you've already committed. Am I ambitious?
Starting point is 01:31:56 Or do I simply have a thinking habit which produces dopamine? Because I'm thinking about the positive outcome. And it's the dopamine, the thing that gets me up and moving. And when you're observing me, you say, how the hell do you get so much done? And how do I do it? I think it's just this. I think it's just this. When I think of all the things I do, I think about them in terms of their benefits.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Rob, you can pause. And I think in regard to the People magazine, girl, the fact that O.J. Simpson died. okay OJ Simpson a murderer died and their headline was OJ Simpson dead at 76 from cancer family announces that's it right there but when Scott Adams dies because he was
Starting point is 01:32:32 you know Trump supporter look what they write Scott Adams disgraced Dilbert creator dies at 68 a murderer gets the nice one but a guy that like Trump gets a disgrace this is the day that he died they write that so there just goes to show you people magazines
Starting point is 01:32:48 where are you at with the story on Well, Vinnie just made me feel very guilty because I meant to send Scott Adams, my minister, Redeemer.com. It would convince anyone because I sort of agree with you. I hope he really believed it, but just taking Baskal's wager, that isn't going to do it. And I know Tim Keller would have convinced him, and suddenly he was dead, and I hadn't sent it yet. So I'm feeling very bad about that. this reminds me I was just thinking about this the other day
Starting point is 01:33:22 which is why oh my gosh Twitter being down is so much more important to me than Iran Twitter is so important for the truth getting out there including on immigration like you were talking about and all the MSM is showing us as
Starting point is 01:33:37 oh the poor illegal immigrant whoa those aren't the ones you see on those aren't the videos you see on Twitter and it wasn't just that one I mean there was some horrible terrorist where the headline was, you know, honored, honored Islamic scholar dies. I just sent that to Rob. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Yeah. Can I talk about that? Yes. But you see, but those weren't the only ones. The contrasts all over Twitter. So thank God for Twitter. And I had, I interviewed Scott Adams on, on my substack. And he was really interesting and it was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:34:13 And the racist thing was unfair. It was, I think, a clumsy joke, in my opinion. But if you'll remember what it was, there was just this poll that turned out to be a BS poll saying that a majority of black people said that it's not okay to be white. So it was a BS poll, but he read it, he believed it, he says, therefore black people are racist, and therefore we should stay the hell away from black people.
Starting point is 01:34:40 It's one of those things where you can't, some things you just should stay away from making jokes. about. So it was a clumsy joke, but oh my gosh, his publisher canceled him, his syndicate, my former syndicate canceled him. He got canceled every place. And to be putting that in the, in the obituaries, oh, come. Oh, here it is. There it is. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's why you always need to check the source and say, is this a credible source, a bias source? Are they far left? Are they far right? Which one is it? So the cartoonist from Dilbert dies and he's this bad dude and this controversial guy,
Starting point is 01:35:18 but the austere leader of ISIS, you know, jihad al-Baghdadi, whatever his name was, what a guy. So just check your source. There it is. Abu al-Bakar, al-Baghdadi,
Starting point is 01:35:31 the austere religious scholar. At the helm of Islamic State dies at 48. What a guy. It's the same. Cartoonist from Dilbert, Mr. Adams over here. Disgraced.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Discraced. Although that needed to say, died suddenly at 48. The other thing I'll say is racist is the most overused term. I don't know. I'm not going to judge him right now. He does make a great point about the kids. You know, you have one kid and you go back for two.
Starting point is 01:35:59 I was hanging out with a lady last night, a friend. She has 11 kids. And she's trying to convince my girl. Go for it. Come on. I'm going to do number 12. If you do number one, I'm like, this lady just wants a baker dozen.
Starting point is 01:36:09 I don't know if she's looking for a football team. 11 kids. The last point is this. We're on the same. page here. This is my concern. And he's a good guy. And I talk about bad people at the last second Hail Mary accepting Jesus. This to me said it was a risk reward calculation. That's not how it works. Not pure. 100%. From your heart. So I've been Jewish my whole life. It's on my deathbed. It's like, Jesus. No, no. Because you know who knows your heart? Jesus. He knows. And there's
Starting point is 01:36:36 no way to get to the father except through the son. Okay. And just to go back really, really fast, Do you guys remember when Hassam Soleimani was killed? New York Times published an op-ed. They called him a freedom fighter. CNN, NPR, they called him hero to supporters and a popular figure in Iran. It's a freaking joke. It is a joke.
Starting point is 01:36:54 And I didn't know that about you. That's so I understand the feeling that you didn't message him, but just hoping that we could pray that he did have a moment where maybe the Holy Spirit was like, hey, you have this opportunity. I hope and I pray that he came to it right there because a word and a letter that's not going to come.
Starting point is 01:37:12 And Adam, Ann made the point about Pascal's wager. You hope that none of your friends, you know, are simply making Pascal's wager. And I think it's like this little fire alarm at the last moment, that it's a genuine. And I have deep respect for Tim Keller. And I believe that anybody that would encounter at a moment facing their own mortality,
Starting point is 01:37:31 Tim's writings, I believe that they would be compelled. I think that's what you were saying. I agree with that. Tim's tremendous. You know, and I just think the dialogue has become so heated and so nasty, you know. As I've often said, once upon a time, I used to think that liberals think I'm evil when I just thought liberals were wrong, right? And but I think it's become much deeper and worse than that. I mean, it goes on both sides.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Yeah, I think they're evil. Yeah. Well, so do I. But it's become deeper than that. Even Matt Judge, when O.J. died, as I recall, the drudge report took heat because the headline they carried was cancer murders OJ. Was the, I believe was the... Wait, who had that headline? That's hilarious. Yeah, if you go back, the drudge report took heat for it.
Starting point is 01:38:27 That's funny. It was cancer murders OJ. That's really funny. Hinkgolders got a very interesting sense of you. If that's not that and you came up with it, Tom, I think it's a lot. No, no, it was a drug. Cancer one, OJ-Zero. Okay, let's go to next story, Tom.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Next story I want to get to is this one story, which I'm so curious to know what you guys are going to say about this. Oprah Winfrey makes controversial claim that overeating doesn't cause obesity. It's not her fault. Okay, the calories got in there. It's not her fault. It's a beautiful commercial for GLP-1. is what it is. I mean, it's really, that's what it is. Rob, if you want to play the clip, go for it.
Starting point is 01:39:10 All these years, I thought I was overeating. I was standing there with all the food noise, what I ate, what I should eat, how many calories was that? How long is it going to take? I thought that that was because of me and my fault. Now I understand that if you carry the obesity gene, if that is what you have, that is what makes you overeat. You don't overeat and become obese. Obesity causes you to overeat.
Starting point is 01:39:35 obesity causes you to have all of that food noise. And what the GLP ones have done for me, and I know a number of other people, is to quiet that noise. What do you think about when you try to quiet that noise? What do you think about what she's saying here? Well, I probably shouldn't say this because I'll get a lot of people mad at me,
Starting point is 01:39:56 but I so want these GLP drugs not to work. It makes me so angry that people are not just eating right and exercising. It's unfair. They're just going to take a pill. No, of course, overeating causes obesity. Like, it drives me crazy. Well, first of all, like, what a groundbreaking, like, revelation that she had.
Starting point is 01:40:16 I think it's up there with Einstein discovering relativity. Like, her saying that obesity, you don't overeat and become obese. Obesity causes you to overeat. Really. And it's funny that she's done a complete 180, mind you. She stepped down from Weight Watchers' board. I believe in 2024 to promote the GLP-1 drugs. And now she's claiming that obesity is driven by genetics and largely out of control.
Starting point is 01:40:44 It's convenient that makes GLP-1 her solution. And I'm curious to see who she's going to come out and back. And by the way, horrible outfit choice. Can we address? She's wearing a men's suit. Has she crossed over, Rob? Did you see that? I do think she looks very stylish.
Starting point is 01:41:02 I mean, I'm against what she's saying. I don't, what is she wearing? I don't get it. Listen, Oprah can do whatever she wants to do. She's 71. Yeah, by the way. She's looking good for 71. Wow.
Starting point is 01:41:13 But I don't know if Twitter's going to work. RFK tweeted and put, Dear Oprah, yes, you were overeating for years. And it wasn't some mystical obesity gene puppeteering your fork. It was your choices. There's no way he tweeted this. Is this a parody account? No, this is RFK.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Right there. That's it right there. He goes, it was your choices. Stop selling surrender as science. Our kids deserve the truth that real changes start with personal accountability, not excuses, make America healthy again. You know, if I could say one other thing about the GLP drugs, it's contrary to all of the ads for it, more than half of people go off it within six months because it causes so many digestive issues and problems. so it may not be working quite as well as everyone. All the side effects were like bad breath. Your butt is gone.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Vomiting. Apparently it was something was happening positively. But again, it's getting everybody away from putting in the work. You can't say something like that. What? Did you just say it does something positive? It does something for men. 78 people just placed an order right now.
Starting point is 01:42:23 What does it do for men? Well, I thought I saw a report that said that Zembeck was making men swollen in the right areas. No, it's the rest of... By the Agra, buddy. No, the New York Times wrote about that. The rest of you slums down. Oh, that's what it is. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:39 OZempe males are reporting surprising, but she makes a good point. That's because they can finally see it again. When you're 300 pounds, you go down to 180, you're going to look a little bit. Adam, Adam. It's OZENC for a while. Are you been? I'm with, I'm with Aempec. Not Olympic.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Yay. And I are going to agree for a. for a change today. Because I was talking to a friend, he's going to see this clip, he's going to freak out. And I said, he took OZempick, my buddy. And he said, oh, man, I started having all these problems, my shoulder, I couldn't, I couldn't, like, lift my hand.
Starting point is 01:43:15 I said, oh, interesting. So these shortcuts are actually, there's some side effects to this. I said, what you don't earn, you don't keep, you know? And they say, like, I tell this to only fans, girls when I used to interact with them, not anymore. because I'm the man of the Lord, I said, easy money is going to come with hard lessons. Oh, good line.
Starting point is 01:43:35 You're going to get rich quick. I'd rather build wealth slow. So all these people that are taking these shortcuts, you might end up with some ozempic penis or whatever you want to call it, but you need to build the habits that get you there. It's the same thing with winning the lottery. You win $100 million.
Starting point is 01:43:52 The average lottery winner is broke within three years because you don't have the framework and the habits to keep the money. So it's the same thing. with those Empic. You're 300 pounds and now you're 180. Two years from now you're going to be 300 pounds. By the way, you know who's going to agree with this? Oprah. Because her thing was a yo-yo with her weight. She's 250. Then she's 120. Then she's 300. How many, the whole story with Oprah. So to anyone out there who thinks that shortcuts is the way, that's not going to work that way.
Starting point is 01:44:19 It's such a lazy assessment to say some like that. I went on three different AI, what do you call it, like the chat, GBT's and ICE. Is there such a thing that obesity gene? And it says, the answer is not one gene. Obesity is influenced and, you know, each was small folks on the environment. Okay, think of it as genes load the gun, environment pulls the trigger. You know what it made me think about? No. At a guy, you hear me every once in a while, I quote this guy.
Starting point is 01:44:49 I had this guy on him, Jim Clemente. Can you pull this guy? He's a retired FBI survivor. You know what his job was? He was the first person that would sit with the person that just killed someone. Yeah, of course. You just killed your spouse. I'm the first one that interviewed you.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Wow, what a job. That was his job, right? And the question was asked, you know, what causes somebody to be a killer? And he said this. He says, genetics loads the gun. Personality and psychology aims the gun. Experiences pull the trigger. Wow.
Starting point is 01:45:18 So apply that to this. Okay, maybe genetics loads the mouth. Yes. Okay? But personality and psychology, Oprah, is what aims the food. here and you kept doing this. Yeah. Okay? And then experiences you're sitting around, everybody's eating pizza,
Starting point is 01:45:35 cheesecake. Let me have one as well. Let me have one as well. So this lazy always deflecting responsibility on why you look the way you do. Oh my God, just stop it already. It makes me think of what Cartman used to say on South Park. He'd like, I'm not fat. I'm just big bones.
Starting point is 01:45:54 It's like, no. You fat, dude. Yeah, you need a mouth goalie. That's what she needs. There is. This thing right here, Rob. I'm not fat, I'm big bone. That's what your mom said. As we're going through this logic, let's go through this next one. Josh Hawley is asking a doctor. A very basic question, folks. By the way, if you're in a good mood right now,
Starting point is 01:46:14 you're going to be in a bad mood in 90 seconds. This doctor is going to annoy the hell out of you in 90 seconds. Josh Hawley is trying to get the answer to one question. Can men get press? He has to ask it 11 times. Go ahead. Said a moment ago that science and evidence should control, not politics. So let's just test that proposition. Can men get pregnant?
Starting point is 01:46:42 I take care of people with many identities, but Can men get pregnant? Two. I do take care of people that don't identify as women. Can men get pregnant? Three. Again, as I'm saying... Let me just remind you if you testified to a moment ago.
Starting point is 01:46:58 to a moment ago. Science and evidence should control, not politics. So, should, can men get pregnant? I told me, science and evidence should guide medicine. Do science and evidence tell us that men can get pregnant? Five. Biological men. Can they get pregnant? Six. I also think yes, no questions like this are a political tool. No, yes, no questions are about the truth, doctor. Let's not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is about science and evidence. I'm asking you, you know, the United States Supreme Court just heard arguments yesterday at great length on this question. This is not a hypothetical question. This is not theoretical. It affects real people in their real lives. And you're here as an expert, called by the other side as an expert, and you've been telling us that you follow,
Starting point is 01:47:42 right, you're a doctor, and you follow the science and the evidence. So I just want to know, based on the science, can men get pregnant? Seven. That's a yes or no question. It really is, I think. I think you're trying to reduce the complexity of a lot. I'm not. I'm trying to get, it's not complex. I'm trying to get to an answer, and I'm trying to test, frankly, your veracity. Great one. As a medical professional and as a scientist, can men get pregnant.
Starting point is 01:48:09 I think you can get pregnant. I think you're also conflating male and male. There are two different things. There's biological men and there's biological women. And I want to know, can men get pregnant? What you were talking about is. You're not going to answer my question. Biological males.
Starting point is 01:48:28 This isn't hard, doctor. Can men get pregnant? Yes or no. I would be more than happy to have a conversation with you that is not going to have a conversation with you. This is the modern left. I'm not trying to be polarizing. I'm trying to ask.
Starting point is 01:48:44 I think it is extraordinary that we are here in hearing about science and about women. And for the record, it's women who get pregnant, not men. No, it's birthing people, Senator Hawley. And going back, okay, this is, okay, every time we think we've gone past this, we come all the way back and going off of what she said about this party, this ideology, this leftist being evil. Guys, this is when you can't differentiate male or female and you're pushing it out there, and you are a doctor, when you are pushing surgery and transitioning to children, when you're pushing for violence, for stuff to happen.
Starting point is 01:49:25 All this stuff equates to a party of evil. And let's, okay, yes, there's Republicans, neo-cons that war. Yeah, they're evil as well. But this party has nothing positive to stand on. And then I said this a month ago. Name me one. I know that there's Christian Democrats. Name me one.
Starting point is 01:49:43 One that's openly out there saying, hey, as a Christian, this is wrong. Kids can't do this. Abortion, 73 million abortions a year worldwide. it's wrong. We shouldn't be murdering these children. Where is the one Christian voice that's standing up for this freaking nonsense? Where is it? Where are they?
Starting point is 01:50:02 On the other side, there's got to be some. Where is one? I'm saying, have you heard of vocally this is preposterous? You're sitting in Congress. This isn't a conversation at a hookabar or a cigar lounge and you're just nah, well, I want to debate. You're in front of Congress. You're in front of the world and you cannot answer a simple yes or no
Starting point is 01:50:20 if men can get pregnant. They can't. End of story. Move on. So, and my question is you end. Why is she so defiant? What is making her stick to her guns, so to speak, in this situation? I am baffled at how the Democrats are absolutely sticking with the transgender thing,
Starting point is 01:50:36 no matter how many people dislike it. If I can make a point about completely off topic, but on your abortion point, Bobby Weir of the Grateful Dead died this week. And there's a fantastic video of him talking about how he was adopted. and he found the birth parents and his father turned out to be like an Air Force Captain or something, but it was pretty cool story. And I was thinking I have to add him to my list
Starting point is 01:51:00 of all these people who would not have been born if their mothers had gotten pregnant after Roe v. Wade. And they would not be with us. And I think it's God telling us. Wow. Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs, Jack Nicholson.
Starting point is 01:51:16 Now Bobby Weir, I'd forgotten about, obviously Tim Tebow. I have a long, long list. These are the ones I'm thinking of off the top of my head. But another adopted, amazing, amazing person. And again, going back to the point of, what does this party stand for? There's no backbone. There's no faith.
Starting point is 01:51:36 There's no nothing. It's to me, it's just anti-positivity, anti-Trump, and it's just all negativity. There's like nothing positive coming from these people. There's a very logical line there, but it is insanity, right? It is insanity, but there's the logic of insanity. She's being asked a scientific question in Congress, but she worships at the altar of liberalism, which needs to create and enable these groups, which are then the victims, which are the blood on the flag that they wave. It's that simple.
Starting point is 01:52:08 And so she can't answer a scientific question when she is sitting there about to violate the tenets of her belief in liberalism. And if you follow that logic, you say, well, that's perfectly logical why she can't do it. It's insanity. It's weird. It's bizarre. But it is her faith because she alters it. She worships at the altar of liberalism. Great freaking point.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Yeah. I mean, I've been trying to have a baby with my girlfriend. And this whole time, I've been the one that's been trying to get pregnant. And it just not working. Wow. And she's like, dude, can you do it? I'm like, I'm trying, babe. Wow.
Starting point is 01:52:47 And they go, by the way, have you thought about it? about maybe her being the one getting it is. I was like, what? She's the one that does it? That's weird. So I called my mom and I go, mom, is it true that you're the one that birthed me? She goes, yeah, hon. It wasn't your dad.
Starting point is 01:53:02 I go, mom, you're going to be offending some people right now. But this is the offensiveness. Like, you're now offending our common sense. And shout out to Senator Hawley. What an easy job he has. Hey, you know what? Like Ronald Reagan was the great communicator. He brought down communism.
Starting point is 01:53:21 You know, Abraham Lincoln at the end of Civil War. Josh Holly has to get up and say, can men have babies? And you're doing great service for the American public. Can I? Can I, because stupidity is there. I want to, I want to raise this, go off of what Anne just said. And it inspired me to look to sob. Who are the top leaders around the world who were adopted or raised by family?
Starting point is 01:53:44 You ready for these names? I knew about Steve Jobs. He was adopted by an Armenian family, by Armenian mother. Steve Jobs? Yeah, Steve Jobs. Adopted at birth, later co-founded Apple. He's like that. Larry Ellison.
Starting point is 01:53:55 Larry Ellison was adopted as an infant, founder of Oracle. Dave Thomas adopted, founder of Wendy's. He lived in our community, just so you know before he passed away, the house to the left. Marilyn Monroe placed in foster care, later adopted. Faith Hill, adopted shortly after birth, later became a global music icon. John Lennon, raised and legally adopted by his aunt, Mimi, Nelson Rockefeller, adopted. Malcolm X, foster care after father's death and mother's institutionalization. Bill Clinton, raised by grandparents, later stepfather.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Simone Biles, raised by grandparents, later adopted by them. Louis Armstrong, raised by grandmother and other guardians. Oprah Winfrey, raised by grandmother and later relatives. Eleanor Roosevelt, orphaned young, raised by grandmother. Jack Nicholson, raised by grandparents, believe in they were his parents. Eric Clapton, raised by grandparents. Colin Kaepernick, adopted by white parents. Major cultural figure, later on, blamed them.
Starting point is 01:55:00 Okay, Maya Angelou, raised by grandmother after early trauma. Babe Ruth raised in a reformed school under guardianship. Can you imagine if these guys were aborted? Never born. Oh, these guys changed the world. Literally, Steve Jobs. How many have we lost? That's a great point you make.
Starting point is 01:55:18 How many have we lost? I saw the number and I had to double check it. 73 million children are murdered every single year in the world. That what? Yeah. What? And I know people are like, well, insets, no, no, the number of incest, put that away. People that are willingly going and going, you know what?
Starting point is 01:55:39 I don't want it. I'm going to murder this kid. And it wasn't that hard. The black genocide. Both in Weir's case and jobs case, okay, the parents are in college. Yeah, it's a bad time to get pregnant. They go away. Weir didn't even know because Weir's father didn't know because the mother never told them.
Starting point is 01:55:57 They were college kids. She just went to, I don't know, San Francisco Bay Area had the baby, gave it up for adoption. It's not going to wreck your life. Yeah, exactly. By the way, I just looked up what number is. for abortions in 2024, 1,000. 38,000. Where?
Starting point is 01:56:18 In America alone. Just here. Just here. Worldwide, you said 73 million. 73 million. Yeah, 73 million. A year. 1.14 million is the number. And by the way, can you pull up by ethnicity?
Starting point is 01:56:31 Or by background to see what it is? We'd love to see some data. Okay. Black African Americans. You ready? Overwhelming. They're only 13% of population. They're 40% of population. percent of the abortions. So out of the 1,410,000 were black, African-American, white, non-Hispanic,
Starting point is 01:56:50 33 to 36, Hispanic 20 to 22, Asian 6 to 7, everybody else is 2 to 3 percent of the abortion. Okay. Thank you, Margaret. What was the last in Sangar? Is it Sanger? Planned Parenthood. She's a Planned Parenthood person, right? And notice how the phrasing two-pack is now you want to move on. Look at how innocent and plan parenthood. They should just name it, baby killing, come here and we'll kill baby. If you take a look at the voting block, Barack Obama shouldn't have been our first black president. He should have been our second. If you go back to 1973 and look at the size of the voting blocks and the size of the populace that would have made up the United States, statistically speaking, he should have been our second black president. Somebody should have made it there,
Starting point is 01:57:31 is what you're saying. Like somebody else would have made it there. Yeah. Let me get to Venezuela. Let me get to Venezuela. Let's talk about Venezuela here because, and I know you've written about this, You've talked about this. So President Trump brags about a very good call with terrific Venezuelan president ahead of meeting of opposition leader. Rob, if you want to pull up this clip, is this the vice president of Maduro, right? This is the person that replaced Maduro that was under Maduro. Yes. That's the call.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Okay, Rob, do you want to play this clip? Okay, go for it, Rob. And we'll see how it all works out. I think something will work out. Yeah. Mr. President. In Venezuela, Cabello, the de facto number two in Venezuela right now, he seemed pretty reluctant. to work with the U.S. and obviously he's in...
Starting point is 01:58:13 They just gave us 50 million barrels of oil. The number two, the Venezuela Security. I know the number one, we just had a great conversation today, and she's a terrific person. I mean, she's somebody that we've worked with very well. Marco Rubio is dealing with her. I dealt with it this morning. We had a call, a long call. We discussed a lot of things, and I think we're getting along very well with Venezuela. So, so open-ended question. What do you think about everything that's going on?
Starting point is 01:58:40 with Venezuela. Everything that happened and is going on. I think it's fantastic. I'm so happy that he is pursuing this Monroe doctrine. I do care about what happens in our hemisphere and just I mean, I love that both on his Iran bombing, which I wasn't in favor of before it
Starting point is 01:58:56 happened, but he just did it and left. Not sending in troops. And he does the same thing in Venezuela. Just goes in grabs the guy who's been under indictment, under the Obama administration, under the Trump administration, they gave up, I mean, it's just a ridiculous communist government and it's just a drug cartel.
Starting point is 01:59:17 That's the only way Venezuela makes money. It did have to be shut down. I like the idea and I like the way Rubio talks about it, especially I like the idea of America going in and installing puppets. We didn't have a problem with fentanyl on 100,000 Americans dying of drugs every year back when we were installing puppets in Latin America. We didn't have a problem. open borders and millions of people streaming across our border. This is in our neighborhood. It's really, really affecting our country. So I love that he did it.
Starting point is 01:59:50 Yeah, if there's one person I trust in this situation, it's Marco Rubio. 100%. His family is Cuban immigrants. He understands what's going on. I mean, born and raised, obviously, raised in Miami. By the way, how many, I can't, I don't know if I have more Colombian friends or Venezuelan friends, but they're everywhere in Miami. I've asked every single
Starting point is 02:00:12 Venezuelan, Colombian, I go, yes or no, Maduro, they're like, get them out of here. Not one person has said, well, you never know. You juxtaposed out with the Ayatollah situation, the equivocating over here. By the way, did you notice as soon as we took out Maduro, the Colombian president, Petro, it was all tough, and Blaster goes, yeah, I'll come meet you at the White House, sir.
Starting point is 02:00:35 Like, oh, I'll come meet you. All of a sudden, when you take you take you. take out a bad dude, other bad dudes start to act a little bit better. By the way, FYI, to the people of Cuba, you never know what's going to happen to your leader next. I'm just saying. You never know what's going to happen to your leader, and you don't know what's going to happen to Cuba. You know, can you imagine by the end of his term, we're debating where to go for summer? Oh, let's go to Waldorf Astoria in Cuba.
Starting point is 02:01:03 Right. Let's go to St. Regis for Cuba. Really? Yeah. Let's just go hang out over there. What? This is a very unique thing when you think about this whole concept of how we went. America went from playing offense and went from being smaller to 13 colonies.
Starting point is 02:01:20 We fought and were willing to put our lives on the line for 3% taxes. And then we come down and we have these 13 colonies and then we get started. America does the great founding fathers. And I'm a byproduct of what they did for my family to have moved here to have the life that I have. Then we buy Louisiana, $15 million. Then we buy Florida, $5 million. Then Texas comes to us. Then Alaska, $7.2 million.
Starting point is 02:01:44 Then the war for, you know, California, Arizona, with Mexico. And then we could go all the way down. James Polk says, let's take over all of Mexico. A little bit of hesitation because the Catholic Mexicans to be part of them and have a representation. And then let's take over Cuba. He draws that whole line. And then no one talks about it.
Starting point is 02:02:01 And then there's World War I. America's afraid. Then we come back. Then there's World War II. Hey, let's start to see. 1947, let's start doing all these coups and proxies and all of a sudden, let's get involved in everyone's marriage and everyone's business and everyone's this. And this guy's coming up and say, no, I want Greenland. What do you want to do about it? And we're going to attack you, Denmark.
Starting point is 02:02:17 Go ahead. I want Greenland. That's not how it works. It actually does. I want Greenland. That's not how this works. You don't study history. Go study history. If somebody comes in and says they want this land, you can fight for it, and I can choose to fight, or you can do a deal and I pay you. And then let me go build something I want to build. There was a tweet that came out today from Trump. We can't find it. He says, I promise you, I won't build a Trump Tower in Greenland. That's from 2019. I don't know if you got seen this one or not. Do you remember that tweet with the picture? So, and guess what he's doing now? Venezuela. It's Monroe, Donro. Hey, this is on a Western. I don't, I really, really like the way he's thinking. Yeah, this right here tweet. Is Twitter
Starting point is 02:02:58 back up, by the way, Rob? It is. It's back up. Okay, good. Yeah, this is a tweet, by the way, from 2019. Go to the bottom, Rob. I promise not to do this to Greenland. August 19, 2019, six years ago, five and a half years ago. So I don't mind any of this stuff. The part that I want to ask you about is the following.
Starting point is 02:03:16 So is it Eduardo Demundo Gonzalez? I'm saying the name incorrectly. Eduardo Gonzalez, the guy who wins, Edmundo Gonzalez, who wins, and Maria Carino Machado becomes under him, which is really her winning, but she becomes a, you know,
Starting point is 02:03:34 front face and the election numbers comes out. We had her on the podcast a week after she won and we had a conversation with us. So why are you not being more vocal and going and talking about it? You're just hiding. And she goes to the White House, Rob, if you want to play the clip, she just won a Nobel Peace Prize a few months ago. And she goes in and hands over the Nobel Peace Prize to the president. Okay. And that's what she got. And if Rob, if you want to go play the clip of her saying that and handing it over to her. No, the one where she says that, I am here proudly wanting to give my Nobel Peace Prize to President Trump, and she has recognized him and Peace Prize Trump. And there's a speech. If you can't find it, it's fine. We'll just go into it. Okay, it's all good if we can't find a clip. I'll look
Starting point is 02:04:21 forward. This is her with Fox News where she afterwards. He deserves it. Okay, go for it. In spite of the Nobel Prize Committee saying that you couldn't transfer your Nobel Prize to anyone, especially President Trump, you did today. Why did you do that? Because he deserves it. And it was a very emotional moment. I decided to present the Nobel Peace Prize Medal on behalf of the people of Venezuela. In spite of the Nobel Prize Committee saying that you...
Starting point is 02:04:56 So she does that, which is great, very noble. and I think a part of it she wants to do to give them credit because the day she wanted that day she said, I don't know why you're giving it to me. You should have given it to her. President response, it was my great honor to meet Korea, and Marina Machado of Venezuela today. She's a wonderful woman who has been through so much.
Starting point is 02:05:16 Maria presented me with her Nobel Peace Prize for the work I've done. Such a wonderful gesture of mutual respect. Thank you, Maria. Great. Even with this, this guy, this unique guy, was still not flattered enough to say, you can have the job.
Starting point is 02:05:32 Yeah. Watch what Caroline Levitt says here. Go ahead. Can't be bought. Is it still the president's assessment that it would be very hard for Ms. Machado to leave Venezuela because he says she lacks the respect and support in that country. And will he raise that with her to me? I think the president's assessment that you just pointed out was based on realities on the ground.
Starting point is 02:05:54 It was a realistic assessment based on what the president was reading. and hearing from his advisors and national security team. And at this moment in time, his opinion on that matter has not changed. He has also said that he would like there to be elections in Venezuela when the time is right. Do you have any update on when that might be? And is he committed to a transition to democracy for Venezuela? Yes, and he is also committed to hopefully seeing elections in Venezuela one day, but I don't have an updated timetable for you today.
Starting point is 02:06:25 Okay, reaction to it. I want to hear from you. Your reaction on the fact that he still is not given her the throne. Well, for one thing, it gives the lie to the Washington Post and various MSNBC. They're snippy. He won't let her be leader because she won the no. No, it has nothing to do with that. I think it's the same thing as with Reza.
Starting point is 02:06:44 No, she's not going to be the leader. We need a military junta there. Exactly what you were saying about Iran. No, for one thing, I think it should be a man. This is an Hispanic macho culture. But it ought to be someone with the support of the military. I would not let those people vote again. They voted for Chavez over and over again.
Starting point is 02:07:04 It was the poor people, the peasants running out, oh, you're going to give us the golf courses. And yep, we gave them the golf courses. Well, okay, this is what they got. They voted for this. So do not let those people vote again. It's going to have to be a military guy. I understand this from her perspective.
Starting point is 02:07:22 I think it was from the heart. He has done a lot if there were a legitimate peace prize in the world. Trump should have won it. I don't think the Nobel Peace Prize is legitimate. I don't know why Trump does want it. I think it's kind of embarrassing that he accepted it. He should have thanked her and said that's a lovely gesture, but it's the Nobel Peace Prize.
Starting point is 02:07:44 This means nothing to me. Obama got it with how long was Obama in? I don't think he was even president. He was he? No, I think it was like he just showed up and like, hey, here, take this. You've got mail. Yeah, you're Jesus to us. but I think you made a good point about the Resa Palavi.
Starting point is 02:08:00 He doesn't feel, he knows. He's like all the flattery in the world, Trump is laser focused right now, and I think, you know what, why the left and all these people, they're not used to a real leader, okay? And they're just, and I can't even blame them. They're not used to it. They've never had this type of freaking boss coming. You know what it reminds me of?
Starting point is 02:08:20 Like a mother getting divorced and the old dad was like, whatever. And the new stepdad comes in. and he's like a Marine retired. And the kids don't know how, oh my God, there's discipline, there's freaking order. Let's not forget Venezuela empty the freaking prisons. All the drug boys, Drenragua, going around taking up freaking residency and apartments in freaking in Colorado. But here's my thing.
Starting point is 02:08:43 If there's a way that the United States could make Venezuela a better place for those Dren Dragua and the people hitting ice with shovels in the head, good. I'm all for it. Make your place good so you don't have to come. come here and ruin ours. Plain and simple. That's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:59 And it's pretty clear, you know, socialism or communism sounds good, but it's not good. So if we want to implement this new Don Roe doctrine, you know, let's keep communism and socialism. Let's keep it as far into the eastern hemisphere as possible. But if it's going to creep into the western hemisphere, like it has done in Venezuela. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:21 Amazing country, now ruined. Cuba. We've seen what's going on there. Brazil. your friend Lula. You mentioned Cuba. Have you ever been to Cuba? No.
Starting point is 02:09:31 I've been to Cuba 10 years ago for our friend Keith's Bachelor Party. I don't know how he pulled it off. He went on some mission trip. And here's how it would define communism and socialism. We get there. It's literally the 1950s. It's like you're a time traveler. Shout out to Candace Owen who thinks that Charlie Kirk's a time traveler now.
Starting point is 02:09:52 That's another's whole story. You know, I love back to the future. but you go back to the future in Cuba and you get there, you check into your hotel and you're living in the center of town, city center, and it's genuinely nice in your little part of city center.
Starting point is 02:10:09 And then you get in a car and you say, let's go drive around. And it's like, you know how like Disney World? It looks like it's a nice building and you go in and it's all just fake. Everything is broken down, has not been fixed. Nothing works. Everything's the last.
Starting point is 02:10:24 Elapidated. Buildings are crumbling. Nothing's been updated since the 1950s, 1960s. So it looks great on the surface. And then you open the door, you pop the hood, or you drive around the block, and the whole thing is crumbling. That is communism. By the way, did you guys go out? Like, was there nightlife? Yes. We went out. Women, nice parties. I'm not allowed to talk about it. No, no, I'm just telling you. I'm asking you. We did go out. So it was good. It was fun. Yes. I mean. Was it like a 50 year ago. Miami vibe? Like, is it like that? Or was it still, you felt like you're in a different country? You're definitely, I mean, I live in Miami. So to me, going out in Doral or going out in Caracas or Havana, it's the same thing. But it's, it's very interesting. Ernest Hemingway, the whole thing. Yeah. But you're traveling, literally driving around in American Cadillacs from
Starting point is 02:11:16 57, 57 Chevy. Western Hemisphere. That's Western Hemisphere. So he could do something with that as well. And by the way, you know, there's enough people. Where is Ted Cruz from, by the way? Isn't he Cuban? He's born in Canada, but his father's Cuban. I get it. I get it. But isn't his father Cuban like he is, yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:37 So I think there's enough interested parties that I think, I don't know. Well, go down to Miami. You'll see what they think about. I'm not a capitalist. I don't mind that. I know it's going to upset a lot of socialist and communist and TDS folks, but I don't mind it. So let me get to the last story. Rob, do you have the story of what happened with the shovel and the shooting and the like two guys at the same time?
Starting point is 02:12:03 You know what's what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. So, Rob, what pages this is this on? This happened two days ago. Is this the one that says illegal Venezuelan migrant shot in Minneapolis, Rob? Is that the one? Okay, so illegal Venezuela and migrant shot in Minneapolis. For the last 24 hours.
Starting point is 02:12:18 After mercilessly ambushing Fed Agent with Snow Shovel. Weird. According to DHS. Yeah. Okay. Again, another one of those that sounds like an onion story or a Babylon B story, but it's not. So an illegal Venezuelan migrant was shot in the leg by a federal immigration agent in Minneapolis after he allegedly fled during a traffic stop and beat the ambush officer with a snow shovel. Wednesday evening, the Department of Homeland Security said the suspect was behind the wheel when he tried to get away from federal immigration officers at 6.50 p.m.
Starting point is 02:12:52 local time, but he crashed into a park car, great driver, the migrant, then tried to escape on foot and violently assaulted. The officer has two wrestled on the ground, according to an ex post. While the man continued to struggle with the officer, two other people emerged from a nearby apartment, and allegedly mercilessly attacked the agent with a snow shovel and broom handle in the chaos. Rob, do you have the video on this? Is there documentation on the side? I don't think there's actual video of it happening, but I'm pretty sure Rob will have the three Venezuelan. illegals that were involved in it. And notice, you're not going to see,
Starting point is 02:13:27 you're not going to see it plastered everywhere. It was like on for like an hour, but then it disappears. You know why? It doesn't fit the narrative. It's not a mother of three who they're using old photos. No, it's three dudes that look like they just got out of prison. Can we see the pictures, Rob?
Starting point is 02:13:43 Robbie, do you have a photo about three Venezuelans that were, but wait, let me, tell me how peaceful and sweet these guys look. You don't see the liberals sticking up for these guys, huh? The family, this guy's right here. Those are the three guys. Yeah, we have to go to the Hindu stand time to get the picture. Yeah, exactly. Great point.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Hindu stand times to show these dudes. Where's the riots? Where's the craziness? Where's the wildness? So, by the way, and where does he get the attitude? Yes. I'm going to get out of my car. I'm going to try to hit him with my car.
Starting point is 02:14:16 And then a door opens from a house. Two other Vanuels willans come out and start beating them with shovels. Yeah. Anybody want to take a wild stab in the dark? of where the hell they're getting this attitude because the freaking mayor, the governor, and Elon Omar, like, guys, fight back. Okay, this is the enemy.
Starting point is 02:14:32 Okay, notice how it didn't make it, right, Tom? This isn't, but you barely saw it. And then this is this? Go ahead, Rob. This is a separate incident. This is a Latin Kings member. So while that police officer reportedly was being attacked, other police officers in Minneapolis went to his aid.
Starting point is 02:14:47 While they were doing that, this Latin Kings member then broke into a police car and then stole police weaponry, including a gun, bullets, and a bulletproof vest. Simultaneously, this is what you were telling me in the back. So it happened at the same time, and then the FBI just arrested this guy yesterday. FBI arrested, but now think about it.
Starting point is 02:15:04 Now they're armed. They tied chains to the gun locker, and then they have another car go driving. Just in FYI. I want people out there to know. What are these guys doing? They're stealing everything from the car, weapons, guns, magazines, bullets.
Starting point is 02:15:18 That's a long rifle stolen. FBI rifle. Don't wear. Look at that tattoo. Guys, is that a father from Maryland? Is that another father from Maryland? Is that who the hell that was? That Maryland man has a gun.
Starting point is 02:15:29 Oh, that was a Minnesota man, because he's a dad, right? Give me a break. And I'm going to warn everybody out there for all these morons out there. Hopefully this hits one of their TVs or their phones. If you get into a cop card that's armed and there's recording this. Just people, idiots. They want clout. They're recording.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Look at it. You're a dumb criminal. All of them are stupid. These are the dumbest criminals. They record everything. Morons. But just, just, I'm going to finish my point. If you jump in a cop car and there's weapons in the cop car, and they could shoot and kill you as you're leaving.
Starting point is 02:16:06 Because now you're going to go and they don't know what's the guy. This is the guy that stole the stuff out of it. I'm shocked the dude who made the decision to tattoo his face. Weird. Made some other. Real. Unfortunate. Minnesota Takashi 6-9 is out there breaking into vehicles and stealing guns.
Starting point is 02:16:21 Okay. Thank you, Six-on-two. Thoughts on this, both of them. It's interesting how hard it is to get the pictures and the videos of this. Boy, you're not seeing that on MSNBC. Of course not.
Starting point is 02:16:31 Not seeing that on CNN. And also reminds us, yeah, he should be sending in federal troops. This is, it's kind of an embarrassing mistake that the FBI, I don't care that somebody's being attacked. You got to hit the clicker on your car when it's full of weapons like this.
Starting point is 02:16:48 They should have left somebody to guard the weapons. that's not good. But yeah, this is most of the people they're arresting. Tom. One more thing about this. I'm sorry to finish. The things that they had,
Starting point is 02:17:02 besides being led in illegally by Biden, besides being probable criminals in Venezuela, the only crimes they had committed in this country were relatively minor if you only read it in prose. They lied to police officers. They were driving without a license. This is what they look like.
Starting point is 02:17:20 The difference between, a, oh, no criminal conviction illegal, and a criminal conviction illegal is about one week. Yes. You're 100% right. I agree. Yeah, it's just like, let me translate. Oh, no, they're deporting our voting block. I mean, that's, that's really if you translate it. And you look at this stuff, and this is Portland. We're seeing it again. This is just like Portland. And now we're going to to fund the police, this mayhem will continue, and then their people are going to be coming back voting. These are liberals in Portland that are voting for restoration of justice, and they're changing the names of all the groups of the police officers instead of SWAT to rapid response
Starting point is 02:18:05 teams, because maybe that feels better, but it's the same thing. Five guys have invaded my house. Can you please come get them? Preferably drag them out, thank you. Come conduct some police business. And that's what's going on here. I'm not being silly. We are seeing it in Portland. We're about to see a complete... By the way, we've seen people in Chicago that would stop the citizen journalist and says,
Starting point is 02:18:33 hey man, we need Trump to send him here. Please send them here. Reasonable people of multiple ethnicities that are living in these areas of the town. Hey man, I'm a South Sider. Go white socks. Look at what's going on here. We need the police need help. I'm just, mind you, please hear me completely out.
Starting point is 02:18:52 I'm not hoping or wishing any of this to happen. But in my mind, I'm like, what would make this, these people, especially the higher-ups and the Tim Walts, the Ilhan Omar, the Fry, the Gavin Newsom, what would make them, I know because it is a voting block thing? Like, I'm just wondering, like, would a phone call, like, let's just say, God forbid, Hey, Gavin, yeah, what's going on? I hate to say this to you, but you're, you're something. God rest his was just killed.
Starting point is 02:19:19 Oh my God, the first question. What happened? An illegal that wasn't supposed to be in the country was drunk driving and ran over him. I'm very curious to what happens to his pro open border illegal. We need the votes. Give them health care. Does that change someone like that or do they still stick to their guns? He blames Trump the same way Fry is blaming ICE for fomenting violence and Minneapolis.
Starting point is 02:19:44 100%. And that's my thing is. ISIS fomenting the violence. No, they're arresting people. Yeah, and that's the thing is none of this has happened. None of this directly impacts any of the people that are out there. The Elon Omar are stepping on trucks and saying it until it happens to someone they love or someone that's close to them, I'm very curious to see if the tune changes.
Starting point is 02:20:06 Because until that happens, they don't give a damn because there's not their kids, not their wives getting sexually assaulted. They're not getting freaking their money stolen. So it's it's nonsense. I think Minnesota needs their own version of Rudy Giuliani, like how we cleaned up New York. And unfortunately, they're just continuing to elect the mom Donnies in Minnesota. And no wonder is this. By the way, I'm born and raised in Miami.
Starting point is 02:20:31 My mom is from Minnesota. I'd go to Minnesota every summer, winter. I would see people with snow shovels. I've never seen a Venezuelan with a snow shovel in Miami. What are you? Like Venezuelan and snow shovels, that's not a thing. Only in Minnesota. It's like a Somalian with a leering center.
Starting point is 02:20:51 Why are these things occurring? I don't get it. But this to me, you know, Pat, you've talked about something called the hero-making machine. So this guy, Jacob Frey, I just want to give this guy a big shout out to him. If we can show an image of him. This is what weak leadership looks like. This is the epitome of, what is it? good men create
Starting point is 02:21:13 strong men create good times good times create weak men this is the weak man that they're talking about because in my opinion he'd rather be liked than respected Rudy Giuliani to give him some credit would rather be respected
Starting point is 02:21:29 than liked being liked is fleeting people will turn on you in an instant being respected yo that's respect sir so it's kind of like we've seen this and it's a weird analogy in the NBA. David Stern was respected. Maybe Peeb wasn't liked,
Starting point is 02:21:45 but everyone respected him running the NBA. And now they got this guy, Adam Silver, that wants to be liked, and now the players are running the league, just like the protesters are running Minnesota, and just like the inmates are running the asylum, this is a failure of leadership and trying to make the hero-making machine
Starting point is 02:22:04 this clown or George Floyd, rather than real people with real solutions. I pray for Minnesota, and I hope Venezuelans stop hanging out with snow shovels. And just because you mentioned his name, if this is okay, Pat, I want to play the video of your friend, Mayor Jacob Frey. This is the biggest, this is the biggest self-owned. He just made the argument against mass immigration, but he used ice. Look at how stupid he looks. Go ahead, Rob.
Starting point is 02:22:30 Look. Imagine if that city or that town was suddenly invaded by thousands of thousands of things. federal agents that do not share the values that you hold dear. It's Minnesota. Imagine if your daily routines were disrupted. The local cafe that you eat at was shut down because they're scared that their own family might get torn apart. Imagine if school is shut down and suddenly parents got to figure out what to do for daycare.
Starting point is 02:23:02 Buddy, those are the protesters that are rooting your side. How are you not understanding? He's the funniest. These protesters are ruining this. He's Somalis. Imagine the thousands of people. Yeah. It's called Minnesota.
Starting point is 02:23:14 All right. Let's do this Clinton one and it will wrap up. So facing contempt threat, Clinton refuses testifying Epstein inquiry. Rob, if you got that, that's a New York Times story. And I think John Stewart responds to it as well. Is that James Comer, Rob? This is. What clips do you have on this?
Starting point is 02:23:29 Because that's a long clip. Is there, what's Comer saying here, by the way? This is where it talks about actually prosecuting the Clintons for avoiding the subpoena. Go for it. The White House. Jeffrey Epstein, visiting the White House, 17 times while Bill Clinton was president. I've been in Congress nine years. I think I've been to the White House nine times in nine years.
Starting point is 02:23:48 Epstein was in the White House doubled the amount of time that I was under one president. And then we know that Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's plane somewhere around 27 times after the presidency. So no one's accusing Bill Clinton of any wrongdoing. We just have questions, and that's why the Democrats voted a lot of. Is that the painting she's holding to the left? She has him. Is that the girl that goes to movies a lot? Yeah, she loves movies, Pat.
Starting point is 02:24:16 That's who it is. Laram Bobert's holding me. I love movies. Yeah, that's. She loves movies, Pat. And this is what John Stewart had to say about it. Let's see what John Stewart is saying. Because John Stewart, go ahead.
Starting point is 02:24:26 Go ahead, Rob. Does his compliance a kind of specialized individual indigenous opportunity, or is it, should it be universal? I mean, the Department of Justice has subpoenaed them to testify in the Jeffrey Epstein case while not complying with releasing the files. So how does that comport in any? But do I personally think they should comply? Absa fucking lootly.
Starting point is 02:24:53 Absolutely. And if they've got something to hide or an affair, like, yes, we should know about all this. This is bonkers how long this is going on. And we have only seen such a fraction. I think I was reading the 2 million files to come out. It's 1% is what I've seen, yeah, like that we've seen. And the casual nature in these emails are like, hey, can you get me an Indian and a redhead? Like, they're just casually, it's literally like they're ordering from, you know, Uber Eats.
Starting point is 02:25:28 And the spelling errors. It's human. Composal right there. Okay. So where are you at with this? Where are you at with the whole Epstein thing? I think Trump made a big mistake, one of the biggest ones of his second term. As for the Clinton thing, well, I think it's utterly unfair.
Starting point is 02:25:50 It's a great point. John Stewart makes when you're subpoenaed by Congress, you have to respond to the spina. And if they're going to prosecute Steve Bannon for not responding to a subpoena and prosecute Peter Navarro for not. The problem with D.C. is it's run by Democrats. So I mean, Eric Holder was in contempt of Congress. I think it was a virtually unanimous vote. And nothing can be done because it's a Democrat City. So that's a big problem when only one party has to respond to us.
Starting point is 02:26:19 On the other hand, if I were Comer, I would have phrased it differently. I would have said we have this big issue with Epstein. We're trying to get the bottom of it. We're investigating it. You were the head of the Democratic Party. We were president of the United States. We want your help here. We want you to come in.
Starting point is 02:26:35 investigate and not set it up as as assuming guilt on the part of Bill Clinton's. Interesting. Adam. Bill Clinton's not going to ever get in trouble, ever. It's not going to happen. And that sucks. I mean, by the way,
Starting point is 02:26:53 there's no, I don't know if he's innocent, guilty. I don't know. That's not my thing. I just, there's not going to be any accountability for Bill Clinton. There might be others. We saw what happened to Prince Andrew. We've seen what happened to Who was it, Larry Summers? Is that who it was?
Starting point is 02:27:08 Okay, Lauren Summer, okay. He stepped away from my life. Larry Clinton ain't nothing happening to Bill Clinton. By the way, and I'm sure I'll catch a lot of heat from it, on all the things that are on my news feed that I'm going to click on, China, tariffs, you know, Maduro, Venezuela, let's buy Greenland. At the bottom of my personal list is this Epstein situation. Is it important?
Starting point is 02:27:32 Of course. Do we need to find out what happened? Of course. Am I holding my breath? Not at all. Okay, but you saying, Adam, nothing's going to happen, which I agree with you. And I'll get to my point. Thanks, Vincent.
Starting point is 02:27:43 But does it bother you, Adam, that there's so much. There's not just smoke. There's a fire. The fire's burning and it's been burning forever. Does it upset you, though, that none of them, none of them are going to get held accountable? Because for one thing, when you lawfully skip a subpoena, you know what that's saying? I'm above the law and I can do what I What are you going to do?
Starting point is 02:28:07 What are you going to do? If that was you, Adam, or if that was me, bro, you would have, nobody, you would have been a whisper. Nobody would have, you're gone and you're gone forever. Okay, and by the way, you know what nobody talked about? Not one single Democrat from the House Oversight Committee showed up to even sit there and wait for them
Starting point is 02:28:25 because they know that, wait, this is the same party that's been like, Trump and Trump, where are you at when it comes to them? And this whole pedophile protecting nonsense, it's it's preposterous okay all these people know they know when people like oh it's trump no no they know what the hell's going on bill clinton flew on the low leader or whatever jet from epstein 22 to 23 times who Jeffrey Epstein went to the white house what was it rob 17 17 times in one year to see the president what were they what were they doing adam were they trading recipes like carrot cake recipes no they were talking about him and going to epstein island we saw the photos
Starting point is 02:29:03 coming out. I think I get where you're saying nothing's going to happen. It's not one person's going to hold them accountable and they're all going to meet their freaking... And Adam, that gives me the most comfort in my heart of hearts is that you can run here and the prince of darkness runs this place.
Starting point is 02:29:20 But you're not running from him. What happens of all these people that did all these illegal things except Jesus the last second? Yeah, good luck. Again, no, I'm not being serious. I'm actually being serious. If they're really hard, yes, in their hearts. In their heart?
Starting point is 02:29:31 Pedophiles. And God sees the heart. care. I think we are going to find some stuff out. Answer the question. Pedophiles on Epstein Island, they accept Jesus at the last second. What happens? In their heart of hearts? In their heart of hearts. They're good to go. Wow. But hold on. You think pedophiles in the last minute are going to say that? Yeah. You think pedophiles, no, not like Scott, not like the... Oh, you don't think that pedophiles believe in Jesus. Have you heard of the Catholic Church, buddy? No, I mean, come on. That's, you're... Did I just make that up? On the Epstein thing, which is our topic,
Starting point is 02:30:01 I think you're kind of right It's not that interesting yet But I don't see any reason why it won't get interesting Because the American people demanded That even Trump do something he doesn't want to do But Trump never said he wanted the cash retaliated Dan Bongino did his thing Trump was like Epstein
Starting point is 02:30:20 Why are we still talking about the point is The point is a law was passed They have to do it The 1% now that's true That's unfortunate that's because they suddenly found a million more documents I think we're going to get the documents. I mean, they can't.
Starting point is 02:30:34 If we don't now, we're going to get them under President Vance. So kind of boring now, but I think we're going to get them at some point, and that's when it's going to be at the top of your feet. I just have one question for the Great Ann Coulter. Are you more interested in the Epstein case or what's going on in Iran? Oh, definitely Epstein. Twitter being down is number one. No, I'm way more focused on it.
Starting point is 02:30:58 Well, in regard to the story, the committee. is set to vote on the contempt. If it passes, it goes to a full house vote where Republicans own the majority. But then it goes to the DOJ and Pam Bondi decides whether to prosecute. That's what I'm waiting for. Because she has connections to Florida.
Starting point is 02:31:14 I know she showed up after the whole Epstein situation happened. But Pam with her 10,000 hours of videos and all that stuff, I don't want this. This isn't going to die out for me, Adam. I'm waiting to find out what Pam Bondi does because Bill and Hillary are kicking their feet up going, we don't got to do nothing.
Starting point is 02:31:30 He could do whatever he want besides the one of the project and how many sexual assault allegations are in Bill? How many times do you have to fly to this island and meet what I've seen for somebody to go, yeah, it seems like you're freaking guilty. It seems like he's guilty, Adam. It's not your fault. I know it's not. I'd rather have Holly asking the questions. Yeah. I'm worried about how Republicans.
Starting point is 02:31:52 What is an island? What is is me? What is it? What is land? This is already on a problem. path for the DOJ because this is the first step. Congress pulls you in for a closed door deposition and then they refer the matter to the DOJ. That's the path we're on. Bill and Hillary wrote this long letter to Comer that they immediately handed to the New York Times that said there's a time
Starting point is 02:32:18 to defend the people, the practices and the justice of the United States and that time is now. So that they write on cue, write on brand, portray themselves as being effectively patriots, freedom fighters, you know, victims. Cowering and cowering victims under the weight of mishandled abusive justice. That's their positioning. And so now they're going to vote
Starting point is 02:32:42 and say, do we hold them in contempt? And do we go to the DOJ? Even John Stewart is dumb with it. You know, he's like, listen, stop it, you know, go out there and show up. The part is if they don't show up, you could get away with it under any other president except for Trump.
Starting point is 02:33:04 So if Trump was using his power to get rid of Maduro, try to get Greenland, if Trump really wanted to, he could really target and get Clintons. He's not. That's the question. Why not? Is it friends? Is it allies?
Starting point is 02:33:23 Is it not important? Is it you using the list? Is it you using the list as a leverage? There's still time. There's still is time. I'm just saying right now to you that. You know how there's like, for sure it's like bro code? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:33 Maybe there's like president code. No, no, I don't. Not anymore. Not anymore. You're used to be. I think he's waiting. You know what it would be the greatest move? He waits till the last, right when he's about to leave.
Starting point is 02:33:43 You know who broke the president code? By the way, you know who broke the president code? One guy. Obama. Hussein. Obama broke the president code. What do you do? When Trump was campaigning, what do you mean?
Starting point is 02:33:54 Oh, yeah. He broke the president. By the way, to be respectful. To be respectful, to be respectful, kept the code. Oh, he wrote Obama of nice letter? No, no, no, but what I'm saying to you is never once did he come out, criticizing Obama, even though every single day, if there was a word that Obama used the most, what was the
Starting point is 02:34:11 one word? What was the one word? I inherited. Inherited. Inherited was his reap. I would love to know how many times that Obama under his administration used the word inherit. How many times? Can you ask Chad GBT? Obama. How many times Did Obama use the word I inherited?
Starting point is 02:34:33 How many times during his administration? I'm willing to bed. Nobody's used that phrase more than this guy. I'm going to steal that from you. That's a great point. Over and over and over again. Just give him a shout out. If you're saying, I'd love to see a stat on this.
Starting point is 02:34:46 Anyways, okay, if you're watching this right now and you're asking yourself, I fully disagree with what Adam had to say, or Vinny has to say in Epstein or any of the topics, or if you're watching this honestly, and I'm like being very honest with you guys, if you like Tom, you want to help him out, Meneck them a good joke. This was horrible today. Send him a few dad jokes. Like, you know what I bought him for his birthday?
Starting point is 02:35:10 Do you want to tell everybody what I bought you for your birthday? Be honest. I had this Christmas for birthday. It's like this little tower. There was three of them all wrapped real nice. It was three books on the greatest dad jokes. I'm trying to help out, guys. He's not reading it.
Starting point is 02:35:24 No, he's not reading it. So Brooke Bailey, maybe encourage your dad to pick up that book instead of all the other books he's reading. And with Ann Coulter, and Coulter, if you're not already doing this, go follow her substack and sign up for it. Rob, let's put the link below for people to go follow the substack as well. Almost everything's free.
Starting point is 02:35:44 Almost. I'm a very bad business woman. Well, there's something called Bed David Consulting. If you want to scale your business, we have a five-step process that basically is dummy-proof and you will scale your business to success. And by the way, here I am, Vinny, represent. Love your T-shirt.
Starting point is 02:36:01 Thank you so much. I'll get you a female one. They have some colors on this. Yes, they do. I'm going to get you. Yes, they do. I promise you, I got you. Guys, it is the weekend, Miami.
Starting point is 02:36:09 Here I am. Send me down to Miami. No, Adam. That's Adam. That's Adam for you, by the way. We have a Democrat one. There is. Send him.
Starting point is 02:36:16 Have a great weekend. If, just an FY for everybody. If something goes on this weekend, we're going to have an emergency podcast. So praise for impact. If something crazy happens. because we have a president that's somewhat unpredictable. If something were to happen, we will do an emergency podcast. And Coulter, as usual, thanks for coming out.
Starting point is 02:36:35 This was wonderful. You're awesome. Take you everybody. Have a great weekend. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye, bye, bye, bye.

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