PBD Podcast - Israel & Hamas Meeting, Epstein's Blackmail Network CONFIRMED & Diddy Locked Up | PBD Podcast | Ep. 661

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Hamas and Israel’s secret peace meeting, new evidence confirming Jeffrey Epstein’s global blackmail network, and Diddy... officially being locked up.------👕 VT ALLEGEDLY COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3KzXIaVⓂ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES COMMUNITY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc⁠⁠⁠ 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:01:06 I know this life's meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever sized. Right here. You are a 101? My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.
Starting point is 00:01:26 All right. Folks, a rough weekend for, if your name is Diddy, but a great weekend if your name is 50 Cent. He has got another great opportunity to troll him because apparently Diddy already expected to be free and he had a speaking engagement this week. And 50 Cent comes on and says, don't worry, guys, I'll do the speaking engagement if you want to do it. I'll come out and I'll do my thing, you know, but lots of things going on in Chicago with ICE to the point where they're not even protecting the Fed. Vinny was talking about a couple clips where the local PDs are backing up and Pritzker saying it's all propaganda
Starting point is 00:02:02 with everything that's taking place and I cannot believe the president didn't call me to get approval about him deploying National Guard to our state and Oregon and other places well it's called you suck in leadership and your people are saying please come and protect me. What do you expect
Starting point is 00:02:19 them to do? Your people are begging for leadership, absolutely begging for leadership because they don't have one. You know, They don't have one. There's more guys like you and this other guy named Gavin in California that are thinking more about their 2028, what do you call it, presidential campaign, then they're thinking about actually taking care of their city and their states. Then you have Israel ceasefire meetings that are taking place. I think Kushner and Whitkoff are on their way, Rob.
Starting point is 00:02:48 You said to Egypt this morning to have the meeting. By the way, Kushner, we haven't heard that name in a long time. He's getting in there for the negotiation stuff. So originally, you know, we didn't know if he was going to be involved a lot. But, you know, in these types of instances, he is getting involved. Epstein. Howard Lutnik is talking to someone and explains a time where he is in Epstein's home. And while he's in there, he asks, oh, wow, you have a room here just for massages and candles.
Starting point is 00:03:16 He says, Epstein gave an answer to him that he and his wife, Lutnik and his wife, said, I don't ever want to be around this guy ever again. Then the interviewer asks, what do you think about Gates and others? And you should hear what Lutnik had to say about that. By the way, if you're a quarterback, let's just say you played in the NFL, and you are famously known for running into your offensive linemen,
Starting point is 00:03:41 your center. The butt fumble. What are you doing racing others in an alley? And then we're thinking somebody attack you, but allegedly you attacked somebody else. I mean, this is like, you're the best-looking bachelor, right? You were like the guy to be with it, and then this story comes out. Then he's not happy about it.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And he's got a few things he wants to say about it, which we'll talk about. Aside from that, folks, if you're watching this and you're between ages of 70 to 79 years old, Wall Street Journal wrote a story for you. And it says, do no age of entrepreneurship, 70 to 79. You know, we're 20 years away from being 46 years old. But this is some interesting stuff that's going on over there. Adam, all morning. There's a million stories to talk about.
Starting point is 00:04:24 All he cares about is the comedy stuff that happened in Saudi. And he's asking, how come no one called me for money? Like Adam, by the way, some of the people, if you're doing the next Saudi trip for comedians, Adam is willing to do it pro bono because he's met as requirements for pro bono for free comedy skits for the year. He's willing to go. Vin, you're going to have to pay for, Adam would be for free. It's like a buy one, get one for free. It's a bogo.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Buy one, a Syrian get one. one due for free. Hello. And I'll go for half price. Yeah. And then aside from that, you know, Trump is, Floyd's handing got $2,000 tariff rebates to all Americans because of $63 billion of rebate the tariffs that made the last two months.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Here's another story for you. And you know who wants to talk about this story. Women would rather stay single than compromise politics. A global study shows. Not a local, not a regional, not a national. This is a global study. Not practice. We're talking about a good game.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I watched a clip yesterday from the show Ted Lousso. And Ted Lousso is talking to one of his best players. And he's going through and saying everything to him. And then 30 seconds into it, do you realize what speech is given Tom? You know what speech it is? I have to show this picture. It's just so funny. It's so fun.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I love this Ted Lousso thing. One day a guy named Greg Scher, a good friend of ours, says, watch Ted Losso. Tell me this doesn't remind you of Tom. I watch one episode. I'm like, this is Tom Ellsworth. So you got Ted Lossow and you got your. your squid games that you're all about these days. Squid games is bad to watch, but it's so addicting.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Let me tell you, it's a horrible thing to watch. I've never seen you watch any TV whatsoever. Now Squid games are ridiculous. Last night, Tico comes back. He was out of town with these white family he was hanging out with, but they're back. Great people. And while they're back, he wants to watch Fallen, because I told him how great Fallon is.
Starting point is 00:06:12 This guy is up at 1040 finish and Fall, and I'm like, nobody, we're going to finish it another day. And it's time. He's on my side. Yes, it is. Have you ever seen? Oh, my, what Denzel? Oh, my God, Nicole's like this.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And he starts doing, he is. I'll give me nightmares. Whatever that actor's name is, he's phenomenal. He's phenomenal. What is between lions? And anyways, folks, don't watch it have fallen. If you, just don't watch it. New York City mayoral rates are still going on.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Cuomo rips, hypocrite Zoran Mamdani. And which Cuomo? This is Chris Cuomo, not Andrew. Andrew Cuomo apologizes to Jewish people, but his brother rips Mamdani. And then we got a couple other things here. We got to talk about all this stuff with Israel, Netanyahu. We'll definitely cover that. Young people are now richer than boomers.
Starting point is 00:07:05 We're folks, if you're a boomer, when we talk about the story, maybe some earmuffs would be good for you. Because apparently these guys are making more many than you. According to the story, Disney attendance plunges to an all-time low for 2025 as visitors report ghost towns at parks. Can you imagine that? Disney ghost town at parks and Tom's got some updates for you. Pornhub suffers 50% drop in UK traffic after age restrictions added. And that's an interesting concept because I knew when I was talking to the owners of Pornup, I said, why don't you put age restriction? They said, we won't do it. This is exactly why. I estimated they would have 50 to a 90% drop off and it's already happening in UK.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Fox News, dominates, news brands with 1.1 billion YouTube views in Q3. The billionaire Trump, this billionaire Trump ally and his son, are building an unprecedented media empire. Van Jones had a few things to say on the Billmore clip, which probably will get to. Billboard dismisses all the stuff that was going on, and then of course we have to talk about how many more lawsuits are friend, not friend, a guy that maybe was many people's friends when they were going to his white party, did he? How many lawsuits he's pending after what happened? And then Bad Bunny.
Starting point is 00:08:27 How many guys are excited? But if you're watching this right now, who's excited about Bad Bunny halftime show? And by the way, guess what, folks? Guess what? You have a few months left to learn how to speak Spanish. Yes, because you need to learn Spanish, not him learning English.
Starting point is 00:08:41 It's your duty to learn Spanish according to Bad Bunny. Because he said so, right? Dole, let's go. You've got to learn Spanish. You've got four months to do so. A lot of people are not happy. And then we talk about the Chicago stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:54 We'll get into Virginia AG candidate faces bipartisan. Is this the Jay Jones guy that we're talking about? The Virginia AG candidate faces bipartisan and backlash over violent, inflammatory text messages. But you apologize, pets. So it's all good. We have to talk about it. Let's read his apology. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:09:19 Yep. So, anyways, so we got a lot of stories to cover. Folks, if you're watching this today, I'm going to make it very simple for you. Yesterday, guys were posting pictures of being at football games and baseball games. One baseball game I wasn't too happy about, but they were watching it a bunch of these baseball games. And you know what hat they were wearing? And what shirt they were wearing? They were wearing the allegedly shirt.
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Starting point is 00:10:09 Well, listen, it's my insurance policy to make sure I'm protected. Now all you have to say is allegedly to make sure you're protected from people coming after you. Anyways, allegedly, gear is one that people like to wear no matter where they go. All right. Let's get right into the stories. First story I want to get into, Vinnie, is I say we start off with the Howard Lutnik. If you want to put up the Howard Lutnik clip. So here's Howard Lutnik, telling a story about what happened with him with Epstein ones.
Starting point is 00:10:38 It's a very, very, so this is, they're at the house. Yes. This is, because, Madja, Pat, this is a four and a half, four minutes, 43 seconds. We're not going to watch the whole thing. So right now, so he's sitting down with New York Post. He happens to live next door. Epstein moves in. Now they're neighbors.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah, now they move in because Lutney's been there since 2005. They have to renovate. So now he doesn't really know who Epstein is yet. Trust me, guys, I did the research. He didn't know him. And by the way, he's sitting down with the New York Post, Miranda Devine. So Epstein, I'll fill you up to this point. Epstein's assistant comes, knocks on Howard Lutnik's door and goes,
Starting point is 00:11:09 hey, Mr. Epstein is your new neighbor. He wants to bring you over for coffee. He's giving them a tour at him. And even Howard Lutnik is. like bro the house is ridiculous it's huge and this is when he shows a part of the house and it gets a little weird go ahead rob so he gives me a tour in the living room big living room and then across from it is double doors i assume it's the dining room yeah and he opens the doors and there's a massage table in the middle of the room and candles all around stuff so i ask very insightful
Starting point is 00:11:42 cutting questions i say to him massage table in the middle of your house how often you have a massage and he says every day and then he like gets like weirdly close to me and he says and the right kind of massage his wife is now my wife is standing here so she looks at me and i look at her and we say i'm sorry we have to go and we left and in the six or eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house my wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again so I was never in the room with him socially for business or even philanthropy if that guy was there I wasn't going because he's gross okay now stop it wrong
Starting point is 00:12:44 There's another part, though, that's coming. So now it keeps going, guys, and he's just, and by the, I don't, in that world, I don't trust any of the old people that I believe exactly what the hell he's saying. He's like, I'm disgusting. Because everybody, once you put Howard Lutniks next to Epstein, everybody was like, oh, he's in, no. It's not analysis. It's not first-hand witness. So now this next one guy, and Robbie, I would start at, Rob, started like about three minutes. This is when the conversation of other people that were there and showing up and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:13:13 this is what Miranda asked him now. God, Robbie. Oh, the deep nuance of Howard Lutnik. This guy is gross. Right. So how come Bill Gates and all these other people could hang around him and not see what you saw? Or did they see it and ignore it?
Starting point is 00:13:30 No, they participated. Boom. Boom. That's what his MO was. You know, get a massage, get a massage. And what happened in that massage room, I assume was on video. Video.
Starting point is 00:13:39 This guy was the greatest blackmailer ever. Who. Blackmail. people. That's how we had money. So what happened to those videos? Why is there now such a dearth of information when, you know, Donald Trump's people are running the FBI and the DOJ? I assume way back when they traded those videos in exchange for him getting that 18 month sense, which allowed him to have visits and be out of jail. I mean, he's a serial sex offender. How could he get 18 months
Starting point is 00:14:14 and be able to go to his office during the day and have visitors and stuff? It must have been a trade. So my assumption, I have no knowledge. But my assumption is there was a trade. Okay. Now, okay. First of all, I don't even think that they knew that.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Is Lutnik's still on the inside? Oh, of course. Oh, you have Lutnik's on the inside? As far as the Trump administration. Yes. But at the end of this, Pat, when they're asking. What level of insight is he right now? You think he's in the inner, inner, inner, inner, inner circle like the day?
Starting point is 00:14:46 No, no, I would take off one inner inner. If he's not in the inner inner circle, he's definitely in the inner circle. Yeah, no, he's inner, but even at the end, she's like, well, how does Donald Trump, the president feel about you? He's like, listen, I don't talk to him about this. I don't know this, but I want people to understand what this guy was saying. Like, what they're saying goes against everything that the White House and Cash Patel and Dan Bonjino and Pam Bondi have been saying. He said they participated. Bill Gates participated, and he's assuming, which, you know, allegedly, but think about
Starting point is 00:15:17 great, great word, but he said assuming, which is allegedly, like, he's listening. Plug your shirt here, buddy. Yeah, he's, think about it, he's, he's hearing something. We're learning. He's on the inside. He's heard things. He's heard a lot of things. I'm pretty sure he's picked up on the old Bill Gates and, bro, the connection with
Starting point is 00:15:35 Bill Clinton and Mark Middleton and him committing suicide. And, by the way, him bringing Epstein, when Epstein would visit Bill Clinton in the White House all those times, 11 times or whatever, Epstein would come with different younger women each time. And the guy that signed him on hanged himself in front of his house with the wire and shot himself in his chest and they couldn't find the gun. This is crazy. This is very, very, like, revealing. Actually, you know, there's something very, do you remember when we went by his house? Do you remember when we were running by it? Security, everything that was there, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah, I mean, look, I like his answer. And I, but it is contradictory. To the White House. To the White House. Yeah. So it is contradictory to the narrative. And, but you got to give him props for telling his experience with Epstein and how horrible was. And, you know, what experience?
Starting point is 00:16:33 By the way, what year is he talking about? 2005 is when that they had the house. And then he was arrested in 2000. In 2005, he's at the House, 2008. So when did the president kick him out of Marlago? 07 or 08? I don't know. So, Rob, can you find out when did Epstein not, was he not able to go back to Marlago?
Starting point is 00:16:57 Tom, what do you think about the story here, with Howard Love? So I have a couple of views on it. And the first is, why would Howard, right now, with all that's going on and with all that's going on. And with all the success, Howard has had, let's face it, he has a distinction of running one of the most successful presidential transitions ever in that he and Susie Wiles picked people, helped interview him. He's had this great success. Why would you go get in the mud pit of the Epstein stuff? You could stay way out over here talking about other things. There's speculation that he was interested in Besson's position if Bessent went to Fed.
Starting point is 00:17:38 But then they said, no, no, Besson's not going to go to Fed. He's going to stay right where he is. And so why with all of that and all the gloss that you've got, why would you do the interview like this unless one thing? It's true. That's what I think. Why would you even get in the mud? You just said these two things.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Are you saying this is his way of getting back for not getting Besson's job? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, he was getting, if Bessent goes to Fed, Lutnik was a leading candidate to step into Besson's. So why talk about this stuff now? So, yeah, see it. I think either it's true or. Why would he lie?
Starting point is 00:18:19 I believe it's true. I believe him. The guy's next door to him. So why would he lie about something like this? That's exactly right. And remember what he said. What's the part about this that you can't lie about? He says, I'm standing there.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And my wife is standing right here. And he gets close. Jeffrey, we have to go. And then they leave, right? And we take the six steps to my house or whatever words he used. So I don't know why he would lie about some like this. That's right.
Starting point is 00:18:42 There's no reason for him to lie. There's no reason to get in the Mosh Pet. And why would he say the greatest blackmailer ever? Like, he knows stuff. I think, Vinny, I've come to a conclusion. I know where it's out. Yesterday, we have people over at the house
Starting point is 00:18:54 for Dylan's birthday. And we're talking and a couple of the guys that are there. Like, oh, you know, we just want to let you know we watch a podcast for a long time. So that's great, fantastic. That's okay. So what do you think happened here with Epstein? They're kind of, you know, it's like the,
Starting point is 00:19:11 you can always tell what people are interested in. Yeah, of course. Okay, so this one was the Epstein interest. I said, what do you think? I says, well, I think, you know, I'm trying to see for myself. Listen, eventually we're going back and I said, look, this, there's, you got the emotional community. You got the hardcore cutthroat logical community.
Starting point is 00:19:27 When we had Eric Trump on the podcast Friday night, I showed a clip that Eric had never seen about his father with Baron Trump, right? When he's like, he is smart, he is strong, he is vicious, but you have to be smart because to win in life, you got to be smart. So good luck to you, kid. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:19:45 So the point is, to be a president, you have to be vicious. To be a president, you have to be ice cold. To be a president, you have to know how to use those assets. I am convinced they're using all of those. assets to hold every one of those guys, blackmailed, to make sure none of them get in the way of them fulfilling whatever they have in the agenda. And I think the cutthroat, vicious, ice cold
Starting point is 00:20:12 community fully understands that. And everybody else who doesn't, I also understand them as well. That's the conclusion I've come up with. Of course he's a blackmailer. What are he talking about? Like, of course, what the hell do you mean? Like the former prime minister of his 30-something time? Oh, no, no. It's just they're playing backgammon. That's what it is. That's what I got. You know, that's what I'm playing. Are you ready? What are you going to do? We're going to play Domino's together today.
Starting point is 00:20:34 No, we're going to play today. You would, Barbara, we're going to play, you know, Uno today. Today's Uno Day. That's what we're doing today. Now, something's going on here. Adam, we know you have very insightful feedback on this one here. Tell us what you're thinking. I fully agree with you that they're protecting rich, powerful, connected people at the expense of young women.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Pretty much it. you know there's the rule of law in our country and then there's vigilante justice so the rule of law would say well you know he was arrested 20 years ago and they did some sort of sweetheart deal this Alex Acosta guy and they got 18 months rather than 18 years because they worked out some deal and that's for the justice department and for the rule of law to basically comprehend that. But on the flip side, it's funny, I was watching Stephen Crowder, and he goes, you know what they do, the pedophiles in Russia, right? He goes, you didn't hear this story? He goes, yeah, so some father found out that some pedophile was like talking to his daughter. So what happened was, turns out the pedophile decided to suicide himself. And he dig grave for 30 feet, and he stabbed himself in the back 25 times. whoopsie I guess he so decided himself so it just basically shows in Russia they'll deal with
Starting point is 00:22:02 a situation with vigilante justice now one might say he got exactly what he deserved bro he's a pedophile on the flip side in America we have a deal with rule of law and sometimes you might not like the outcome of the rule of law but that's for the uh justice department or whoever it was that made that deal I fully agree with you that they're protecting rich Powerful people. You just sounded like the guy from despicable me. Yeah, the bald guy with the... What is this person?
Starting point is 00:22:31 Good person. Yeah, you just sound like the guy from despicable me. I'm from Baku, Pibu. Baku, Azerbaijan, this is me. Let me ask you a question. Did any of the people that were at your house talking, did any of them believe that Trump is, meaning not Trump is guilty, but that these guys are like,
Starting point is 00:22:45 hey, listen, we have all this footage. We have CIA, whatever, and they're like, we're in control. You don't do, you're not putting any of this out there. None of them had that out. Okay. But didn't they, did we cover this one time? No, Vinnie, that, that to me is, is out the window. That to me is out the window.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Okay. And the reason for it is because do you believe, do you believe the call that Trump made screaming at Netanyahu about what happened with Qatar? 100%. Do you believe that did you not just see that Netanyahu came and apologized to Qatar of what they did without telling the president? Yes. Yes. Do you think a person who has that kind of blackmail on our president would allow anyone to talk to him like that?
Starting point is 00:23:33 No way. No. Then it's done. Yeah. That's where I'm at. Because whoever has blackmail has authority. And Netanyahu shows me no authority around Trump. And I know it's a very, at one point I'm like, maybe there is.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Maybe let me watch it. But then when you hear multiple times we're like, yeah, we have decided to build on Gaza. We're thinking about putting a Trump tower or something. like that. And then Epstein, Netanyahu makes a famous look. Do you remember that one? No, no. This guy is a funny guy. No, he is toying with these guys. And, but do I think he has, you know, the ice cold blood? Like, do I think his blood is pure ice cold? I think it's got a drop of warm red blood in it. And he hides it. You make sure you never see it. Because when I asked Eric Trump multiple times, I said, so, have you seen your dad get emotion?
Starting point is 00:24:26 First, we talk about driving. He says, one time he's driving in a Rolls-Royce, and everybody's flipped him on the office. He says, look, everybody loves me here. He's got 55 miles an hour in the Jersey Turnpuck. Did he ever make you breakfast? Oh, no, he never made us breakfast. Did he, you know, did he ever cry?
Starting point is 00:24:39 Yeah, we all got emotion with this last election. Yeah. He didn't want to say it, but he said, we all got emotion with this election. I believe him. Look at this. That's the Marlago to the left. Can you imagine Trump at a gas station filling up the tank with his...
Starting point is 00:24:51 Gas is $1.29. he doesn't drive at all. No, it's actually $0.29. That's how you cannot. I'm kidding. And even Eric Trump said there's a picture. Thanks, Joe Biden. Eric talked about this. Gas under Trump used to be 29 cents. Eric referred to, I think Eric used the word epic. He said there's also a picture of him at the car in the pink shirt that's rather epic. Yeah. Because he's at a gas station. Anyways, let's get to the next story here. Let's talk about the Israel ceasefire. So the Israel ceasefire that's taking place. Right now, I believe Whitkoff and Kushner are on their way to Egypt to negotiate the deal and see. what's going to be happening there. But let me read a couple of these things and I will get my into it. Rob, is that the one telling us that they're on their way there? Okay, go for it.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Overseas, President Trump's special envoy to the Middle East, Steve Whitkoff, and the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, are headed to Egypt this morning, hoping to nail down a peace deal between Israel and Hamas. It is an agreement that could end the war and bring home the remaining hostage is taken in the October 7 terrorist attacks. NBC's Matt Bradley has more from Tel Aviv. at what's the latest there. This episode is brought to you by Peloton. A new era of fitness is here. Introducing the new Peloton Cross Training Tread Plus,
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Starting point is 00:26:41 The substance. This balance is not working. And the naked gun. That was awesome. Now that's a mountain of entertainment. Whoa. Yeah, good morning, Willie. So we're getting some new details starting to emerge from Israel
Starting point is 00:27:00 about those negotiations that are set to begin tomorrow. President Trump announced yesterday that Israel agreed to an initial line on the map for its eventual withdrawal from Gaza. Now, what Samas agrees, the president says the ceasefire and prisoner exchange will begin immediately. Netanyahu himself, Israel's prime minister, addressed the Israeli public last night,
Starting point is 00:27:23 And he hopes that all of this will wrap up in these talks in just a few days after which the remaining 20 living hostages will be returning home. But there are still a lot of details to work out here, Willie. So right here, a couple things. Tens of thousands of people are in the streets of Tel Aviv, pressuring that, you know, to close a deal in the hostage release. Boom, that's taking place. Then you have Whitkoff and Kush, which we just talked about. And then you have President Trump issued a new warning to Hamas to move quickly on hostage release or bets are off. over peace deal. Tom, your thoughts on what's going on here?
Starting point is 00:27:56 Well, there's a couple of things that were going on in Gaza that we saw over the weekend. No speculation. Everyone agrees. All the news media, everybody's reporting it the same way. Even news media doesn't like each other. There is a street, which is forming a line. There's a map of Gaza, and there's a street that says, hey, you can go from, I think it's, you can go from west to east, down the street across the center of Gaza, and they have sirens going off and they have announcements as saying, you guys got to evacuate. You got to evacuate here to clear this out, the zone. And I think, yep, the peace deal, yep, there's this section that I think Israel is going to go in there and saying, okay, any of you Hamas that don't want to get with points
Starting point is 00:28:38 two, three, four, seven, and nine, you know, on the peace deal, once all the citizens and everybody are out of there, we are going to sweep this thing if you're still there. And I think this is basically the end of the end in this area. And so that's what we're hearing. The other thing is that Hamas didn't say absolutely no, and there's a kind of a, not quite a neutral, but Egypt in there allowing them to have a place to come talk about it. So I see all of that as progress, but I'm still skeptical on Hamas. But I think this is progress, number one, and number two, I think it's really bad news for Hamas, because once this evacuation order, and all this section, and you and I looked at that map, that one street that goes straight
Starting point is 00:29:23 across, man, everything that's inside there that is holding a gun and behaving badly, you don't need an insurance actuarial table to determine what's about to happen to that. They are going to sweep this thing. Adam. So by the time this episode comes out, it's tomorrow's October 7th. So by the time a lot of people watch this, it'll be the one year anniversary, I'm sorry, the two year anniversary of October 7th. So I'll ask the following questions. What did this war accomplish? because if you look at it from the Palestinian perspective, if you go back to October 6th, two years ago, literally today, two years ago,
Starting point is 00:29:58 they were living in actual normalcy. Now, you might critique the extent of which this quote-unquote blockade was in Gaza, but they were free, you know, as much as that means. As much as the Middle East area can be free. There's literally no free place in the Middle East, which is the hypocrisy of free Palestine. and there's not one free place in the Middle East other than Israel. But look at Gaza now.
Starting point is 00:30:24 How did this benefit the Palestinian people? I feel horrible for these people. Like anyone that doesn't view this as a humanitarian crisis. Yeah, by the way, that right there is a drone shot of Gaza. And I'm just trying to figure out was Hamas hiding in every single building? So this isn't Detroit. Hamas does a lot of booby traps. No, no, Adam, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:30:45 You cannot tell me that that is complete. total. That looks like a nuke went off. Like that's not even, that is insane. So you're absolutely right. And I would argue that this is exactly what Hamas wanted. Think about that for a second. Because I didn't say the Palestinian people. This is what Hamas wanted. Because they knew when they went in on October 7th and they killed all these people and took hostages. You think this is their first time dealing with the IDF? They've been feuding with these guys' fears. They know what they're doing. They were willing to martyr their own people to sacrifice for their cause. So October 6th, they were living in somewhat normalcy. You see videos of, dude, Gaza is one
Starting point is 00:31:32 the most beautiful places on the planet. Do you understand that? Just north of it is Tel Aviv. It's a gorgeous Mediterranean sea town. But look at the town now. So did this help the Palestinian people? Not at all. Did it have to pal, did it have, that it helped the Palestinian cause, I would say yes. So this October 7th was the best and worst thing to happen to Israel. What do I mean? Well, regionally, Israel is kicking everyone's ass. Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah, Islamic jihad. We see what's going on in Iran. Everyone's lost, lost, loss, Syria, Lebanon, Hezbollah. But globally, this has affected the brand of Israel and even Jewish people for that matter. So, you know, they say you can, you know, win the battle but lose the war.
Starting point is 00:32:21 There's a lot going on with that. So I think from a Trump perspective, this is going to possibly be the biggest deal he's ever done, if he can get this done. The one gliver of hope that I do have is that Trump, remember when he went around the Middle East and he had all those, he went to Saudi, he went to Dubai, went to Qatar, he had all these meetings. What's the likelihood? He said, guys, we got to end this war. And I need your help. And you hear him say, I want to thank Jordan. I want to thank Egypt. I want to thank Saudi. I want to thank Qatar. He's understanding that in order for this deal
Starting point is 00:32:52 to get done, it's not about Hamas. It's about the 99% of the rest of the Muslim Arab community that says, let's help you with this. And if he can do that, there's a possibility of a ceasefire and a peace deal, but I don't trust Hamas at all.
Starting point is 00:33:07 You're well read on this. What do you think the effectiveness of the commission that will be led by Trump and Blair? Because that's different. There's never been like a like, I don't want to say the word, but I'm going to say it kind of like a mini U.N. that they're establishing with world leaders
Starting point is 00:33:24 from other places that are going to be in governance. What do you think the potential for success with that? Well, I trust Trump and Kushner and Whitkoff, Tony Blair. I mean, isn't he like... I'm talking about the commission. Yeah. Isn't he partially responsible for what happened
Starting point is 00:33:39 many years ago in the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan? That's a whole other conversation. It's kind of like letting the wolf into the sheep's den. But as far as the commission, I would love to see a coalition of like-minded, moderate, Arab states who's saying, we want stability in the region.
Starting point is 00:33:56 We all know the biggest, baddest actor in the region has been the Islamic Republic of Iran. They've been defanged, and we see what's going on with that. But I think this coalition for regional stability is the most important coalition that Trump might have put together in the history of the Middle East. the only downside is Hamas cannot be a part of it and Hamas is going to have a choice to say
Starting point is 00:34:19 do I really want to disarm and give these hostages back or do I want to literally rule a city of ashes and if you know anything about Hamas they're a big believer in this thing called jihad and that trumps everything so to speak Vinnie well like you so tomorrow is October 7th two years I remember two years it was October I want to say 9th No, I'm sorry. It was like a week after October 7th,
Starting point is 00:34:45 John Kirby under Biden said, somebody was like, so how did this happen? How could the most secure location on the entire planet have this attack happen? They didn't know six hours this. And you remember what he said? Now's not the time. It's been two years.
Starting point is 00:35:01 There's still nobody talking about how that happened. I think to find out how we got here, we have to figure out what happened. There's been no, no explanation of how that happened. There's even, I saw Israeli IDF soldiers in Israel, and it's all in Hebrew with subtitles, and the guy is saying, we got stand down orders at the hours of this time and this time stand down orders. That guy needs to, I don't know what's happening in their courts. Who would give that type of order to IDF soldiers not to respond?
Starting point is 00:35:31 It's almost like what's happened in Chicago. Don't fight. Don't fight. Stay back. So that has to be answered. And I think this dragged out two-year war, Adam, they were going to do this, in my opinion, regardless. I think the anger Who? They Hamas?
Starting point is 00:35:45 No, no. I think B.B., the goal was to wipe, like, I think the mission was to do this, but, and by the other, it's not anti-Semitism that's happening. I think it's anger at the Israeli government. If you were going to do it, do it. You'd be sure that came in and attack. What do you say about that? I don't
Starting point is 00:36:02 know. You're saying that Israel would have done it anyway. Destroy Gaza. Yes. It was going to happen regardless, Tommy. There were two parts of Gaza, the part above ground, a pot underground. A part above ground, there was a huge percentage of people living in Gaza, including Jewish people, Israelis, that lived in Gaza. So there is all the citizens that were living at peace and had a working economy. And you see all the pictures of that.
Starting point is 00:36:26 That thing we last saw there was showed all the boats and everything. Look at all the boats at the marina. Look at this. There's a beach community, not like Florida. Yeah, this is before. It's before and after. Abdullah el-Hajee. That was actually impressive, Tom.
Starting point is 00:36:42 But just to clarify, there were zero Jews living anywhere near God. Yeah, so that's why they're literally not allowed there. No, they're not allowed in God's. Talk about apartheid. No, they're literally not allowed to go anywhere. My point is being, so you had the above-ground community that had voted for the... But let's go with your point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Let's go with your point. So, Vinny, your point is you're saying that they were going to do this regardless, is what you're saying. Okay. There's multiple arguments because I've heard this on, what do you call it, like a, it's like a broken record. It's every time it's the same thing of how did you stand down? We were one of the first podcast to even address that with Charlie Kirk sitting exactly where you're sitting right now, right? Okay. So we got that.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And this is the clip. If you want to press the first part, go ahead, Rob. I've been Israel many times, the whole country is a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still had the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe. I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun
Starting point is 00:37:49 that is an IDS. You pause it right there. So we address this, but this is where I'm going. Where I'm going is, do I believe there was a stand-down and for whatever reason they didn't come and get it? I do. Like, do I believe that? I myself.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I do. Because if your Intel is that smart and that brilliant where you can send 5,000 pages and you're discreetive and you can get intel and you know Trump is like I'm sorry, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:38:18 Where are you? I can tell you exactly where you're at. Trump didn't get that intel. He got it from Israel. Masad gave it to him, right? So you can't be that good and not know. However, that is one thing, the other, the fact that they attacked,
Starting point is 00:38:31 they imposed. 100%. Okay, so they imposed. So they imposed their attack and this guy saying, oh, really, this is what you want to do? Let them. look what we're going to do to them we're going to destroy them do i think an instance like that could
Starting point is 00:38:43 have happened yes but the reality of it is what they prompted it oh for sure so they prompted it so i know this this whole thing is like you know you know that it's still the lingering energy of you know this is all because of israel this is all because of israel this is all because of israel not the first domino the first domino is 100% the way to react you can question the reaction and say, well, we would have done this, we would have done that. You know, sometimes when somebody wants to do something to you, and you've told them many, many years, don't do this, don't do this, don't do this. Eventually, like, you want to do it?
Starting point is 00:39:23 Let them do it. And I see what happens to him. A kid screws up. You tell them, don't do it. You eventually are like, go ahead and put that thing in the, what do you call, electricity. Go ahead and do it. Just let him do it one time. And he's like, I will never do that again, Brad.
Starting point is 00:39:37 But how many more hundreds of times do I need to tell you? Don't put it there. So I think there was something there, you know, again, you could say, but that's evil. That goes back to the Epstein story of Trump having the information and you haven't. It's not for the average day-to-day person. And it's a side of this job that you have to be ice cold. I mean, what did Netanyahu do before he became the prime minister? What did he and his brother do?
Starting point is 00:40:02 What wars did they fight? No, not just Massad. These guys were a higher level force. These guys were both highest-ranking level Delta Force of Israel, killing, getting shot at his brother died. His brother died in the raid and in Tebby, which was a hostage rescue mission. These are not some, you know, good-looking millionaire life that came out that, hey, this is what we're going to be doing. They are as, like, I don't even know how to make the comparison of them in America politically. Tell me when's the last time we had a president that was Delta Force of Special Forces?
Starting point is 00:40:34 We never had one. Tell me when's the last time we had somebody like that. Like, Teddy Roosevelt or something. No, but he wasn't. Not this level. Maybe Eisenhower is like the guy you have to go to that back. And maybe even that. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:40:45 But what I'm saying to you is, like probably the best comparison to this is the George Washington-ish, like guys from the beginning that just the way they got what they got is by, we are a byproduct of America the first 100 years being very nasty. How old is Israel right now? 1948 is when it was How old is Israel right now? 70 some years. Okay, you know what I'm mad. It's 77 years old? 70, what is it?
Starting point is 00:41:15 Yeah, so I'm 77 years old. So check this out. If it's 70, what did America look like for 77 years? So go 1776, going to the 1850s. What did America look like? We kind of had a civil war just after that. What I'm saying to you is like they're so in it that to say who you compared that to,
Starting point is 00:41:34 we don't have people like that in America right now these guys are true true believers they look at everybody else and even these guys the only people they probably look at and say you're comparable to us is a Putin because Putin fought they look at the people
Starting point is 00:41:52 that were warrior leaders of a nation you don't have to agree with it you don't have to sit there and be what are you saying that still doesn't make sense how could you say something like that I totally get it. These are ice cold people
Starting point is 00:42:06 that responded to what Hamas did and then they said, okay, you want to do that? Let's wrap it up. That's what I think happened. So let me ask you a question. So it's been, and I'm sorry, because I want to know both you guys. So it's been two years.
Starting point is 00:42:19 And when I'm saying, I know like this was the goal anyway because, Pat, we're talking about Hamas, tunnels, hostages, they're not going to give them up, okay? Meaning this is going to be the fight that you're going to have regardless. Do you think if BB and the Israeli government Tom, like gave everybody a week, guys, because they've killed, what, 67, how many thousands of innocent? Well, relax, buddy.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Half of those people are Hamas. So you, but you're definitively. No, no, I'm not listening to any numbers. So you're, how do you have your numbers that you're saying half of them? Well, how do you have your numbers? Let's just say, I'll give you half. You want to use that? I'll give you half.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I'll give you half. That's 35,000, 30,000 innocent people are dead. What's your point is that? Here's my point. my point. That was nasty. Because everybody's saying that there's a bunch of anti-Semitism happening right now.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I think it's anti-government. If they went in and just did it quick like that, you think the people, like, the sentiment of the world would be angry, as angry as Israel now? I'm just curious. I think here's what you have to realize. Okay. And this
Starting point is 00:43:25 is never going to go away. I think you're talking to a community of 2 billion people who hate a community of 15 million people. It's not 10x, it's a hundred and fifty X of their people. If there's one person in the room right now to speak on their behalf and 150 people on the other side, who are you going to believe? Do you have 150 people? That's what's happening to you.
Starting point is 00:43:51 But I'm trying to say to you, that's what the world is going through right now. But you understand my question, though? If it happened faster, would there be that many angry people still? But Vinny, let's get to the bottom of it. That's not the bottom of it. That's the bottom of it isn't that. I'll answer Vinnie's question. But let me just say from my perspective, that's not it.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Because we'll go here and then we'll go here and then we'll go here. And then we're like, yeah, but isn't it that this? No, no, just get to what you think is going on. And what you really think is taking place. Here's what I think is really taking place. Okay. Then say it if that's what you think is taking place. But the reality of it is these guys, when you're saying, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:29 they were eventually going to do it. if you live next to a certain neighbor, Vinnie, where every night you're worried for the safety of your kids, you're probably eventually going to do something. Of course. Okay, and that's what they're doing. Yeah, so, and my point is, why didn't it happen faster? It's been two years.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Well, I mean, like, get to it. Why didn't what happened faster? Like, get in the tunnels and go kill, like, go for it. Go get, do an underground mission. You're oversimplifying a hostage situation in a war-torn, ravaged areas if it's just like, come on, bro. Let's get the hostages. Adam, they're down to, did you hear what they said?
Starting point is 00:45:05 They're down to 20 alive hostages. That means they've been torturing them and killing them. So you've been waiting for two years. I'm saying for the sake of the hostages, go and effing get them. You don't think they thought, go for it. No, they thought about it. But Adam, this is somebody they just came to the realization. My point is, it's taken two years.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Two years. And we're assuming. That's been the lynchpin in all of this. But by the way, that's a valid question as well that Vinnie's asking. Like, you know, game one of the Yankees against who do they play? Yankees played... Blue Jays. Not Blue Jays, the one that they won.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Red Sox. Red Sox. He takes Jason Freed out after six and two-thirds or one-third. I don't know what it was. Six innings and a third, right? He takes them out. He's doing great. And he takes them out and then they lose.
Starting point is 00:45:48 It's like, why'd you take them out? Then the next game, the rookie guy's pitching Schlechter. And he leaves him until the eighth inning. He pitches 12 strikeouts, right? And you make adjustments. And these are professionals. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:59 That's a very valid question. Maybe that was a mistake they made. In a military, you're not going to get a right with everything that you're doing. Maybe that's a mistake that they made. But go ahead, Adam. Wrap this up so we can get to the next door. You talked about this whole concept of Hanlon's Razor. Not everything is this coordinated, conspiratorial or things.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Sometimes things just happen. Is that the whole premise that we're talking about Hamlin's Razors? No, Hanlon's Razors. Don't chalk up put together coalition of things with just stupidity. No, Hanlon's Razor is about don't think because that person's laid. because they're disrespecting you and they don't respect you. Don't think that everybody is trying to do bad things. It's not malice.
Starting point is 00:46:36 It could be stupidity. It could be stupidity. So meaning don't jump to conclusion. Yeah. So regarding what happened that day with Charlie Kirk, let me just address that. Those questions of the total can totally be asked. I have friends in Israel.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I have Jewish friends. I have friends all over the world that ask that question. The point is that I've tried to emphasize is jumping to conclusions. People are just jumping to a conclusion. So October 7th, you asked, like, why didn't they respond? On October 8th, the world started condemning Israel two years ago. That to me was like, whoa. On October 8th, when the hostages were just taken, they just killed 1,200 people.
Starting point is 00:47:17 The world was condemning Israel. That was a big turning point for me. I'm like, what? Even if you don't agree with some of the political and geopolitical arrangements there, you're applauding Hamas and condemning Israel the day after this atrocity, that to me was a telltale sign. As far as this October 7th, you know, was it a stand-down order? Let's just address a couple things. What day did it happen on a Saturday morning, which is Shabbat, the Sabbath?
Starting point is 00:47:46 Charlie Kirk was writing a book about turning your phone off and observing the Sabbath. A lot of people in Israel do that. this was also a week after Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur on a holiday called Simchah Torah meaning it's like the highest holy holidays in Israel. So if you're Hamas and you're going to attack,
Starting point is 00:48:05 you're going to do it when everyone has their phones off during the holy month where they're not prepared. Now you could say, well, you should still be prepared the military doesn't stand down for holidays. And I totally understand that. They have to get heightened. They get more heightened because they know that the enemy was going to try to do something.
Starting point is 00:48:21 In Israel, if they take a Saturday off at this point, then you're sleeping on the job, Homeboy. But as far as people's commentary, in my humble opinion, if you've never been to that side of the world, I mean, you've never stepped foot in Israel, the Middle East, Saudi, Iran,
Starting point is 00:48:37 shush. You have no clue what it's like. You have no clue what it's like. If you're talking, if you're on a college campus and you've never been to that side of the world, time for you to shush. Because the loudest people in the room are the woke white liberals, not the Middle East,
Starting point is 00:48:53 community. You don't see protest in Saudi. You don't see protest in Dubai. You don't see protests in Iran. And if you do, those people are hung the next day. It's always protests in white, woke, liberal countries that have been invaded by the Muslim Brotherhood. So we're going to see what happens here. Truly, truly, truly, I think there's a very small segment of the Palestinian people that actually want peace. Actually don't think they want peace. Because they've had the opportunity to have peace deals for years and years and years and years and they've constantly rejected it because there's a phrase they've constantly said tell me if you've heard this
Starting point is 00:49:29 from to the river to the sea Palestine will be free which means what thing they want it all so they're there if there's a genocide going on really wouldn't you want a ceasefire immediately like there's a general stop to ceasefire they're like well let's wait and see if we like the deal or not okay I get that But if there's really a genocide, probably want to take this deal immediately, which goes to show it's all the genocide, all the apartheid, all this, it's all talking points.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Like PBD said, there's 150 people saying, so he's fire now. And there's one person who's like, yeah, okay, let's do it. Give us the hostages. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's a little too much of a bargaining point here, buddy. You want the hostages back? So I think the truth will come out. And if this happens, Trump will get a Nobel Peace Prize, but I'm still not sold.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Let me tell you, the fact that they're doing this out there trying to make this deal happen. We hope it gets done and it gets done ASAP because there's been way too much talking wars for the last two years. Whether it's them or Ukraine, Russia, we'd like to see this stop. And by the way, both of those wars, just so everybody knows this, they both got started under a guy named Joseph Biden. Joseph, no, they're not under Trump. They got started under Joseph Biden. And he has to now find a way to stop it. All right, let's go to another place that is a problematic place right now to be ran by a guy named Pritzker, Illinois, Chicago.
Starting point is 00:50:59 The ice is out there, right? First of all, Rob, if you don't mind going out there and showing the clip of Pritzker talking about on Twitter, if you can go on Twitter, Pritzker tweets out something about, just go to my Twitter account. I love that you said something last night. If you just go to my Twitter account, and that's Prisker right there, Rob. If you can zoom in on. Yeah, please, there you go. So he says, this evening President Trump is ordering 400 members of the Texas National Golf
Starting point is 00:51:25 for deployments to Illinois, Oregon, and other locations within the United States. No officials from the federal government call me directly to discuss or coordinate. So your people are begging for leadership and you're not providing it. If you were able to do the job, the president wouldn't need to step in.
Starting point is 00:51:40 What am I going to do calling you at this point? Well, what are we going to do right now calling you? You're like, no, no, no, we have it under control. this is purely a publicity stunt on your end. Okay, purely a publicity stunt on your end. Now, let me kind of go through some of this stuff. So White House authorizes deployment of National Guard
Starting point is 00:51:56 to Illinois. Rob, I think you have a clip on this, if you don't mind pulling it up. It's from the one on page six. So President Trump and the White House is like, look, guys, we're done, we're not waiting. Calls the shot. Here's Pritzker. Not happy about it with an ugly tie on. Buckwood and play this clip, Rob, if you can. Go ahead. Secretary doesn't know what She's talking about. She frankly says that people are clapping. They're not. They're booing her on the street. And they're booing ICE and CBP. They're marching on a beautiful Sunday in Michigan Avenue in downtown Chicago. They're raiding neighborhoods where instead of going after the bad guys, they're just picking up people who are brown and black and then checking their credentials. Are you a U.S. citizen? I don't know about you, but I don't carry around.
Starting point is 00:52:45 papers that say, I'm a U.S. citizen. So you can imagine people are getting detained, they're getting arrested, U.S. citizens. And they did this, of course, when they raided a building in the middle of the night in South Shore, 130 people that were emptied out of this building. They were going after a few gang members. And instead, they broke windows, they broke down doors, they ransacked the place. And there were people that were held, I mean, elderly people, and children zip-tied. elderly people held for three hours at the time
Starting point is 00:53:15 they are the ones that are making it a war zone they need to get out of Chicago if they're not going to focus on the worst of the worst which is what the president said they were going to do they need to get the heck out okay so Chicago White House calls deploys a national guard federal Trump is sending 300 national guard troops
Starting point is 00:53:36 Illinois the latest example of federal government sending guardsman to blissities amidst ongoing violent rights and lawlessness that local leaders, like Pritzker, have refused to step in to quill. President Trump has authorized the 300 folks to go out there. White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson said in the statement, Pritzker on Saturday said he was informed of President Trump's administration plans to send the 300 people. So Tom, what do you think is going out over here? So I'll tell you what's going on.
Starting point is 00:54:05 The Dems need their next George Floyd. They need blood. And they want blood. They want somebody on their back bleeding shot by a federal officer or shot by the National Guard. That's what they want. They do not care about the people. If they cared about the people, they would be looking at the impact of the crime. And they said, oh, these people weren't cheering.
Starting point is 00:54:25 They were booing. How many clips do we need on X and elsewhere of people saying, I'm glad you're here. I live over there. Where are you? Can't you help the school over here? How many of this? These are not paid actors. There are problems.
Starting point is 00:54:39 But guess what? You can't run for higher office and you can't run for president if you're running on a platform that says that you were unable to improve Illinois and Chicago. So you couldn't help there. Now you want a bigger job? Really? Your political LinkedIn looks pretty terrible here. You didn't do a very good job in your prior assignment. That's what's going on.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And it is, Trump is not going to go in here just to do it. He's doing it because it's necessary and because leadership stands up and stands in the gap for the innocent when it's necessary. And this is being politicized by J.B. Pritzker and others so they could use the A word, authoritarianism. Oh, it's fascist authoritarianism sending in the military because that's her narrative. But the truth, as you take a look at these things, is they're going to find all the images, they're going to portray it this way or that way. And then, in Chicago, when angry mobs show up, people that don't want to be deported and people that support them, suddenly show up around them, you tell the police, speaking of stand-down orders, you issue a stand-down order in Chicago to leave these people hanging out. They want blood. They want that crowd, the form around those officers, they want those officers to kill somebody because now they've got their George Floyd.
Starting point is 00:55:59 and then as the old phrase go, now you have the bloody albatross to waive and to claim victimhood. That's what's going on. Yeah, and by the way, while this has happened, Trump pauses a $2.1 billion Chicago Infrastructure Project over race-based contracting concerns. So to make that sure that the funding is not flowing
Starting point is 00:56:20 via race-based contracting, the director of the office management and the budget, the OMB announced this Friday, $2.1 billion Chicago infrastructure project, specifically the red line extension and the red and purple modernization project have been put on hold to ensure funding is not flowing view a race-based contracting. I mean, while this is taking place, so they're going through that. Is that it, Rob?
Starting point is 00:56:41 Yes. Go ahead and play the clip. The people of Chicago have been begging for these improvements. Of course. This is like the California train to nowhere. The money comes in. It gets corruptively skimmed. And the people don't get the red line and purple line so they can go back and forth to work.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Watch this here. Go ahead. Right now, the red line only goes as far as 95th Street, but the extension project would take it. further south and east all the way to 130th street. But for the moment, all that is on hold, with the Trump administration putting a freeze on $2.1 billion in federal grants that Congress approved for the project. We're going to use every tool that's available to me to ensure that those dollars are restored to the people of this city. The U.S. Department of Transportation said it is in the process of reviewing the funding for the project, quote, to ensure no additional federal
Starting point is 00:57:25 dollars go towards discriminatory, illegal, and wasteful contract. Vinny, your thoughts on this story. They couldn't pay for it themselves. This is U.S. taxpayers came for their trains. I just hope. I hope people on that side are listening. Please don't just listen to them and watch mainstream media, which is at an all-time low of trust.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I hope they're watching podcasts like this. And I'm not trying to promote our show. Just listen to another side. They don't care. Oh, my mic just went. I just lost. We just lost Vinny. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:58 They don't. care about you at all, okay, zero. That's all BS propaganda talking points. And then the attitude towards ice pack, Gavin Newsom, all that, all that rhetoric, that dog Wilson that they do, same with J.B. Pritzker on Saturday, to go back to the ice, officers, DHS officers were ambushed in what looks like to be in a coordinated attack. Ten cards boxed them in. Baramar Martinez, okay, this one girl time.
Starting point is 00:58:28 She was armed with a semi-automatic weapon. She didn't fire, but she used her vehicle to ram these, the DHS vehicles. They trapped them in, and they fired at her, hit her, didn't kill her. She took off and was found a mile away at a repair shop before taking to the hospital. And then another suspect, Anthony Ian Santos was arrested for assaulting and impeding officers. Okay, Rob, can you show that one video of, like, this is what they're dealing with. This is what these guys are dealing with. Keep going, Rob.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I think I slack I slack them to you oh yeah so look that that white car is an ice vehicle look what's happening can you imagine Pat you're trying to the white car is an ice vehicle you can see how the things are flashing this person this individual this isn't the girl this is just another incident look at it ramming and driving and pushing the car and then look at him the guy's trying to look and then still still who is the escalate who is the black suburban it's just a Chicago person that's just trying to get involved and try to uh uh a attack ICE agents and stopped them. There were allegations that it was a stolen vehicle being used as a ram.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Look at this. I haven't found anything from the police department that confirmed that, Pat. But it certainly looks like a bunch of guys stole the car and used it as a ramming tool. I know I said this last week. Attacks on ICE agents are up 800%. Okay. It's not coming organically. In fact, we talked about the sources and the people that are funding and pushing this stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:53 I really hope we get to the root of the cause of what's. of causing the division and this insanity and this chaos in the country. And then, yeah, Pritzker was on Tapper. He said it was propaganda. Rob, do you have that clip as well? Yep. He said, it's really hard to know the facts. You just saw what you saw.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Pat, listen to this guy. The H.S says that CBP officers shot and wounded a woman in Chicago yesterday after, they say, she allegedly rammed a law enforcement vehicle, and agents were boxed in by multiple cars. the spokesperson for DHS, Tricia McLaughlin, accused Chicago police of leaving the scene and refusing to assist agents in securing the area. What do you know about this incident? Were federal agents boxed in and assaulted? Well, we don't have a lot of facts. What happens in these sorts of incidents is typically ICE puts out a press release before anybody else can speak with the press. and then it gets reported on social media and elsewhere.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Remember, these are the same folks who killed a person, unarmed person, just a couple of weeks ago in Franklin Park. At first, they said that the officer had been threatened with his life. The reality of it and the truth of it has now come out, and that wasn't the case. They killed somebody. So here, it's really hard to know exactly what the facts are, and they won't let us access the facts. are just putting out their propaganda. Propaganda. And then we've got to later.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Like you just did, talking about the last thing ever killed. So propaganda in Dallas, they're not going on rules. My propaganda is okay. Yeah. And they're not sniping and shooting at ice agents. It's like this whole attitude of all these leaders that you're talking about, these horrible freaking leaders. Pat, there was a New York Post reported that the chief of patrol,
Starting point is 01:01:50 John Hine, gave an order to stand down and not help ice agents. okay do you understand how diabolical that is your brother in arms they need your help and you're saying oh guys you're responding do not respond to that okay this is it's not going to go well for these guys okay they are doing their jobs all right and it's unbelievable pat like chicago guess how many shootings happened this weekend in chicago there's probably three or four mass shootings he doesn't care he doesn't give a damn he doesn't care but he can't just say hey trump thank you hey thanks thanks for getting people that aren't supposed to be in the country illegally that i basically told them, hey, come to our city because we're sanctuaries. So here's the question. And then, Adam, I'm going to come to you. So the question is the following. What is Pritzker and all these leftist politicians going to do when the streets of Chicago shuts down crime within two weeks and it's cleaned up?
Starting point is 01:02:41 Now what are you going to say? He's screwed. What are you going to say? Actually, think about the optics. He, he, the governor, is going to hope for crime to increase when National Guard comes in. to say, imagine what psychological issues you have to say, kill somebody, crime. Yeah. I'm speculating. Yeah. I'm saying my opinion is they're going to be rooting for crime to increase.
Starting point is 01:03:05 They know what did the mayor of this he say? Hey, they kind of cleaned it up with them 12 days. All right. If they do that on Chicago, what do you think the African American families who voted for Kamala are all of us I'm going to be saying? Hey, wait a minute. It's kind of working, man. Maybe the sky knows what he's doing. Adam. yeah well this is politics there's no chance that someone like j b prince is going to be like you know what trump it's right we really need your help here buddy like our city is out of control and by the way we've had a democratic established government here for about 100 years but we really need your help and my door dashed was hijacked three times this week there's no chance by the way five people killed
Starting point is 01:03:42 24 wounded in chicago just this weekend and unfortunately this is why they call it shy rack because it's like that's it only five people this weekend congratulations your numbers are actually down in Chicago. But let's not pretend everything is just fine-dandy here in Chicago. We're desensitized to just people getting killed, people getting shot, every weekend, Chicago, D.C., no big deal. By the way, it also happens in Memphis, and it happens in certain other cities, Little Rock, what have you. But even in Fort Lauderdale. But there's no secret that the worst or the worst of the worst is going on in these Democratic sanctuary strongholds.
Starting point is 01:04:20 and Chicago is the tip of the spear. And now, J.B. Pritzker, of all the nonsense that he rattled off, there was one thing he did say that was accurate when he said, let's focus on the worst of the worst. I agree. I don't want to see ice coming in and just jacking somebody's nanny or the gardener. There needs to be a pathway to citizenship for a lot of these people. Because how are you to deport 10 million people.
Starting point is 01:04:43 But if we focus on the worst of the worst, then that's where I think we'll have some success right there. Now, as far as Tom, you made a comment about they need their George Floyd. A lot of it is accurate. Exactly. And by the way, if you'd volunteer to die for us, we're going to put you on T-shirts, we're going to paint you in murals on the side of buildings, your family will have your memory all over the place.
Starting point is 01:05:04 If you'll just be our martyr, it's sad, but it's that dark. Because if you actually take a compare and contrast to what you would call the left's victim mentality and the right's actual victim in Charlie Kirk versus George Floyd. It's non-comparison. It's actually laughable. George Floyd, you know, peace be upon him, as they say, habitual line-stepper, in and out of jail, problematic, druggy, what have you, beat his girlfriend. But he's the martyr of the left.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Charlie Kirk, who I would literally say is one of the greatest humans I've ever met to see how his legacy has been trounced on by certain people. is pathetic to me, one of the greatest people ever, and he's being sort of labeled this racist, disgusting person. Charlie was a great person, and George Floyd was a shitty person, and it just goes to show whose role models and martyrs each side looks up to. All right, so let's get to this next story. So Diddy Combe, Sean Diddy.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Combs is, he's found guilty. Rob, if you can pull up the videos on this one, that'd be great. he's found guilty let me just read this so after he was found guilty and i think he has to do what four years and a half rob some like that that he has to do correct four years i'm going to say four and a half years some like that uh there's a maybe sentenced to just around four years behind bars in criminal case on friday but he still faces a mountain of lawsuits accusing him sexual violence sexual criminal sexual violence and other disturbing acts the nearly seven civil suits will prove to be a headache for Combs
Starting point is 01:06:44 as he already faces legal fees in his federal sex crimes case that could easily top $15 million so far. Damn. Expert told the Post, lawyers were split on if the Bad Boy Records founder would fight like hell or
Starting point is 01:07:00 dip into his dwindling estimated $400 million fortune to quickly pay off his long list of accusers. Attorney Nicole Breneke said that it wouldn't shock her if Combs moved to settle many of the claims since the financial impact would be minimal, and he would quickly end the continuing a headache.
Starting point is 01:07:19 But hip-hop and celebrity Bradford Cohen says the cases he reviewed appear thin, and that Combs should fight back. Settling doesn't make sense in a long run because the others are going to want to pursue you even harder now that you once settled, one convicted of two prostitution case accounts of his Manhattan federal trial. He was still acquitted on the more serious sex trafficking raps. he just got exonerated on multiple felonies. I think he's going to come out stronger
Starting point is 01:07:46 than ever, the attorney said. It's a business decision on how much he wants to spend, and I'm sure his lawyers are not cheap. Now, while this is taking place, okay, Rob, what do you have here? This is Fox News talking about the appeal process. Diddy's attorneys are going to appeal the sentencing. Okay, go for it.
Starting point is 01:08:02 C.B. Cotton is live in New York City with the latest. Hi, C.B. Hey, Michael. Between the year, Sean Diddy Combs has already spent in jail and the credit he could receive for good behavior, it's possible he's out of prison in two and a half years. But Diddy's defense attorneys are still not satisfied with this prospect. What we feel happened today was that the judge acted as a 13th juror,
Starting point is 01:08:26 one that we did not choose, and that he second-guessed the jury's verdict. We think that a jury verdict should mean more than our jury's verdict seems to mean, and so we are planning to appeal. As part of the judge's four-year sentence, Diddy was also ordered to pay a half a million dollar fine and he'll have five years of supervised release once he's out. For more than four hours yesterday, supporters, defense attorneys, and Diddy's adult children while they all pleaded for mercy. Diddy addressed the court himself apologizing and saying his own behavior was disgusting, shameful, and sick. His eight-week trial over the summer
Starting point is 01:09:04 accused him of creating a criminal enterprise using fame, fortunate. and fear to coerce and sex traffic women and to drug-fueled sex parties with male escorts called freak-offs or hotel nights. He was acquitted of the most serious charges. He begged the judge for another chance and vowed that he was a changed man. The judge told Diddy you abused them physically, emotionally, and psychologically. So that's that. Now, 50 cents.
Starting point is 01:09:32 What's he doing there, Pat? Did you see that photo? Yeah, I mean, some of these pictures are. The other way, other way around. artist. What is he, what's he doing down there? One more. What's he doing right there? That's when he was, apparently that is when he received the sentence he fell to the
Starting point is 01:09:44 floor and started banging on his chair crying. Oh. Or it could have been a freakoff under the table. You don't know what's going on. By the way, when he goes to prison, let's remember that pose. Tom. Oh, Jesus. There's Tom again. Can we make a note from when Tom makes inappropriate comments?
Starting point is 01:10:00 Oh, no. Let's just keep score. He's the goat. Well, listen, at least one of the things was the first time Tom used a bathroom, seven years. It's true. Seven years he had to go. All right, let's go through. Tom is the Diddy of inappropriate comments. While this is going on, while this is going on, Diddy had a speaking gig this week. Really? I don't know if you guys were going to go watch him speak, but he had a speaking gig this week. And 50 cent waste no time trolling the 50 month
Starting point is 01:10:24 sentence. And he goes out there and says, Sean Diddy comes over sentence, 50 months in prison on federal prostitution charges. The rapper whose real name is Curtis Jackson posted on X. Not long after Diddy's sentence was revealed, offering to take his spot on a upcoming speaking engagement. Hey, to whoever was booking Diddy for speaking engagement, I heard he won't be able to make it. I'm available. 50 cent wrote, including a link to his website, G unit brands. He was likely referencing speaking engagements that Diddy has booked for next week in Miami, which the prosecution revealed during the sentencing hearing. The two artists are longtime rivals. I was going back and fort. Is this it, Rob? Yes. Because whoever has booking him, I'll be able to him. So, Vinny,
Starting point is 01:11:04 What are you thinking with this whole Diddy lawsuit, everything that's going on here? I mean, I'm just, for all the people, all the casties that were, you know, on camera, be in, all the people that were drugged, that didn't want to be drugged and all that stuff, I think that this is some type of, I mean, four years is at least something. You know what I mean? Because I'm going to be honest with you, I thought for a minute, because Adam, we were talking about this, like he was going to walk. Like, with all the, Tom, were you honestly thinking that he was going to do time? Like, did you actually feel like, I honestly, in my, from. Everything I was following, I was like, oh, he's going to walk. So at least a four-year sentence, they're going to appeal, whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:39 I don't know. He'll probably do, what, two years? Two years? It's not fair, but I want something. There's some accountability where he's going to be, because he's already been in jail for how long now. Has it been a year? So he'll be, I think all together will be three years.
Starting point is 01:11:52 I would hope for more, but. Yeah, I look at it a couple different ways. First of all, you can change the headline that said, Diddy's lawyers refuse to stop billing and are going to appeal until the end of the earth and the return of Christ so they can. There's a lot that goes on in these criminal cases on the legal side. And so lawyers are like, hey, we're going to appeal this, we're going to peel this. There are federal sentencing guidelines, and he was guilty of certain crimes.
Starting point is 01:12:21 And the judge gave the sentence that was within those guidelines, in addition to the time he's already been incarcerated, you know, throughout the city of the trial. So that's there. The other thing that people are talking about is that as part of the sentencing process in America, you're allowed to, not allowed, but part of it is you have what's called victim impact statements. And then you also have what's called pretense investigation reports. So victim impact statements where the people that were victims can go up there and they can present to the judge their own verbal representations without histrionics of how they were. impacted and their fears and things like this. And the judge can consider that, but he's tied to what is he guilty of and what are the federal sentencing guidelines. So think of those as goalposts, so the judge can decide which side of the goalpost he wants to put the football. So 50 cent also
Starting point is 01:13:20 came in and said, I am a relevant party. I have been at odds with him. I have felt for it. And I think we have it here somewhere, some of the words, look at this. I've had an ongoing dispute. This is a quote from 50 cent that this is, this has been posted online. This is allegedly the exact words used by 50 cent if this posting is correct. I've had an ongoing dispute with Puffy for over 20 years. He's very dangerous. Multiple times I feared for my life.
Starting point is 01:13:53 I think you should consider the safety of the general public, your honor, before unleashing him upon them. There hasn't been enough time for him Now this is his opinion But he's expressing that Later his son Who's dealing with his own rape allegations Claim that the feds had hit the wrong house Anyway, he's only going to return
Starting point is 01:14:11 To hiring more male sex workers And keeping most of the baby all the way From the general public And babies need it My next week's dog is coming So Yeah So he gets to
Starting point is 01:14:21 He's trolling everybody You can't take this as a But the interesting thing here is a true a character this is a number you may laugh at the last part and the last part is kind of funny but the the whole point of this
Starting point is 01:14:37 is the judge hears this and then trust me bro here's a joke that's basically well he's a troll too and then the judge says I will now hear from friends and family of the defendant and that's where the defendant you only have one thing to say whether you're lying or not you have to say oh this
Starting point is 01:14:53 trial and everything has hit me so hard I've reconsidered all this what a disgusting reflection I can finally see in the mirror of life. And, you know, you're reading a statement basically prepared by the judge. However, the judge has had the benefit of the witnesses, the benefit of the trial itself, and seeing the demeanor of ditty throughout the course of it. And so I think it's rather interesting that 50 cent presents certain, you know, facts of his opinion and then chooses to troll at the end of it.
Starting point is 01:15:22 But this is a normal part of our process. Statements get to be made, and the judge takes them all into. account before looking at the federal guidelines and saying, here's the guidelines, here's who he's actually guilty of, and I can put you left or right in those guidelines based on other things. Well, said, Tom. Well, look, here's what Michael Chey had to say. He goes, listen, regarding Diddy, it's really hard to watch somebody I love get punished. But hey, that's what Diddy would do. So Diddy has been found guilty for what four years that he's going to be in jail. now let's understand what he's been found guilty of
Starting point is 01:15:58 two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution but he was not found guilty he was acquitted of sex trafficking and rico charges which we know the mafia is all about here working with a group he's definitely guilty of lots of baby oil lots of freakoffs and some sexual abuse but I also have a a prognosis
Starting point is 01:16:21 a hypothesis a prediction I think in about three years, the hottest, biggest podcast guest is going to be Diddy. This guy's going to come out of jail, whether it's in two years or four years, and everybody's going to hear from him. The fact that he was about to go on some speaking tour in Miami is just sort of a tell-tale sign of what's going to happen here. And by the way, how quickly we all move on. Do you know when Diddy was found guilty? July 2nd. So basically three months ago, have you heard Diddy's name in the news once in the last three months? I've heard very little
Starting point is 01:16:55 of Diddy. It just goes to show you. The media controls the narrative. They punch us all out there. All of a sudden, Diddy's back in the news. We'll go back in the jail. People won't think about him. Then he'll come back out again and everyone's going to want Diddy on the podcast. You've covered the case. He's guilty. You're waiting for the sentence. What more can you talk about?
Starting point is 01:17:11 Yeah. Well, everyone was very, very preoccupied with Diddy. It kind of put you in your place. Take that. Take that. That's called. I'll meet you under the desk. Yeah. No, he puts you on your place. You can go under the desk if you Put you on, you know. So anyways, let's go to next door here.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Next door I want to go to is there's this guy, like I was saying earlier, this guy is a, when the biggest highlight of your career is bumping into your center as an NFL quarterback playing for the Jets, maybe he wanted to kind of outdo that highlight. But this is not the way to do it, Mark Sanchez. She's just not the way to do it. Was known as the best looking guy in the NFL. Is that it, Rob? I don't even know if we can play that.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Look at that. Look at that right there. The platform boom? Look at this. Boom. Okay, look at it. Okay, boom. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:18:04 You'll pause that right there, Bob. Oh, man. Hey, a different guy has the ball now. Yeah. So, anyways, Mark Sanchez had a rough weekend, to say the least. I mean, I don't want to, like, under-estimate what happened there. This is truly a qualified rough weekend that he had.
Starting point is 01:18:22 If you want to kind of tell the audience, Vinny, what happened. I'm going to turn it. over to you. Okay. So, all right. So on Saturday, mind you, I think pretty sure Mark Sanchez is in Indianapolis because who, who did Indianapolis play this weekend? Was it the Ravens? He's working, he works for Fox. He's a, he's a contributor. Apparently, allegedly, he's at one of, he's at a bar. It's midnight. And he's, from what the reports are saying, he's doing wind sprints in the alley, okay? What? I'm not even joke, guys, and I don't even want to make light of this. But so a 69 year old grease
Starting point is 01:18:55 truck driver shows up Adam and he's blocking he's in the alley because guess what he's doing Adam his job okay he's doing his job what a grease truck is they come at the end of the night and take all the all the use grease all the oil and everything out of the friar he's doing his job it's late
Starting point is 01:19:11 restaurants close he comes does the rounds basically picking up garbage which is old grease old grease not a not a freaking great job but it apparently this driver 69 he has hearing aids they're out because the truck is really, really loud and messing with his ears. So Sanchez, according to police,
Starting point is 01:19:28 walks up to the guy's truck in the alley behind the two hotels downtown, opens the guy's truck door and starts an argument because, hey, you're doing win-srits at midnight, whatever. The driver says Sanchez was drunk, slurring words, smelled like booze, and it got worse. There's a video that shows him chasing the old guy,
Starting point is 01:19:44 a 70-year-old guy, grabbing him. There's a video. No, we don't have the video, but that's what the cops are saying. There's a video apparently showing. That's how they arrested him inside the hospital. They grab them, shove him against the wall by a dumpster. So, and now this is the reports that the guy felt threatened, pepper straight Sanchez, okay? Sanchez keeps coming.
Starting point is 01:20:04 The guy stabs him. The 70-year-old stabs Sanchez a bunch of times and says it's self-defense. So Sanchez goes in the hospital with stab wounds, upper body, stable condition. He was in critical condition for a minute. And the old guy walks in with a cut in his face. Can we show, guys, look at what the, the, the, all. altercation with Sanchez. Look at what this,
Starting point is 01:20:26 imagine your grandfather is trying to do a grease truck. That's what else. That's not a cut. That is gashed from his, by the way, Sanchez had a knife or this guy had a knife? This guy had a knife. But for what it looks like, Sanchez might have gotten a hold of it
Starting point is 01:20:39 because he stabbed them so hard, it went through his cheek and cut his tongue. Okay? And now Sanchez is facing three charges, battery causing injury, unlawful entry to a motor vehicle. He went in this guy's cab, okay? And public intoxication.
Starting point is 01:20:53 All right, and now here's my thing that I, and again, this is coming from a guy that, you know, used to drink and get aggressive and bars and stuff like that, this, he needs help. Like, if you're at the point where you're getting drunk and you're doing that to a 70-year-old guy that is just doing his job, there is something deeper. I think he needs freaking genuine help because, listen, we've all been drunk. We've all had fun. If a guy's blocking an alley because you're doing wind sprints at midnight and you do that, that's the altercation you have, there's something deeper. not blocking an alley. He's driving in an alley to do his job. Exactly. And he's blocking you from using this alley while you're drunk after midnight to do wind sprints. Yeah, exactly. So I think it's, I think it's something deeper. Is this a witness rap? Yes. What is he saying? Here.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Just up the road. So I followed them up and stayed across the street to see what was going on. According to police, Sanchez and the unnamed driver had an argument about where the truck was parked. At some point, Sanchez tried to get into the truck and even shove the driver. as the driver was trying to flag security. It escalated into a fight in which the victim pepper sprayed and leader stabbed Sanchez multiple times. A short time after getting to the alley, Laughlin saw both men carried off on gurneys. The second person, they brought him out of the alley here on the gurney, and he was setting up on the gurney and had a towel wrapped all the way around this head. Laughlin saw the delivery truck backed into the dock and says there was enough room for a car to pass by.
Starting point is 01:22:19 According to court documents, security footage shows Sanchez throwing the driver into the dumpster and nearby pallets. At first, I just didn't want to believe that it was him. Sanchez reportedly told police he didn't know what happened and could only remember grabbing for a window at a nearby pub. Wofflin recalls seeing someone come out of the business, not knowing it was Sanchez at the time. You don't think you're going to see somebody, you know, recognizable in something like this. In a statement, Marion County prosecutor Ryan Mears condemned the incident, adding in part, What began as a disagreement between a 38-year-old former professional athlete and a 69-year-old man should not have escalated into violence
Starting point is 01:22:56 or left anyone seriously injured. The 69-year-old is doing his job. He's backing in there to do, and on top of that, a crappy job, okay? And what the hell is Sanchez doing? Like, you're in town to work for the NFL, for Fox or whatever. You're doing a reporting thing. What the hell kind of mentality goes in your head? That's Tom, that's something like I said.
Starting point is 01:23:18 That's way deeper than just alcoholism and blacking out. So he got a misdemeanor charge, battery with injury, unlawful entry of vehicle and public intoxication. He was later released from the hospital and taken to jail. Bond was reported at 300. His initial court appearance scheduled to be Tuesday following the incident. And you know why he got arrested? Because they showed them the, they showed like, people like, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:23:41 Here's a video. The guy's doing his job and you don't like where he's parked. Who the hell is Mark Sanchez? You're not security. you're not working for the damn building. He didn't like it and he got in the camera. I think the headline, Vinny, is what was he thinking according to the allegations?
Starting point is 01:23:55 According to the allegations and the police who saw some camera footage and then they see the wounds on people and they investigate everything, whatever security cameras they've got. And the police, these are the charges. He hasn't been found guilty, but these are the charges, the allegations. And you can certainly step back from this
Starting point is 01:24:10 and say, what the hell are you thinking? Might you need some help? Is this, what are you hanging out at a bar at midnight? completely blotto when you're on location for this. Mike, I think that suggests that I would agree with you. If these
Starting point is 01:24:24 allegations are true, and this is all that's coming down, it really suggests that maybe there's something going on inside Mark Chances that he needs to get some help. 100%. I agree. So, imagine you're just the average person following sports over the weekend, and you go on to ESPN
Starting point is 01:24:41 like I did, and it was like, Mark Sanchez stabbed and hospitalized. You're like, oh man, like, I know Mark Sanchez. What's going on here? And then the next day, it's like, yeah, Mark Sanchez arrested. I was like, what? Yeah, what happened? And they came in and arrested while he was in the hospital. Yeah. So you're like, what's going on? And it's like, what is going on here? So in my opinion, this is what's happening? Mark Sanchez is in Indianapolis because he's going to call the game on Sunday against the Ravens. By the way, they beat the crap. I'm sorry, the Raiders. They beat the crap out of the Raiders, 40 to 6. Culture looking good. He's supposed to try the game. But, you know, they say in the, in sports, You know, you don't got to get ready. If you stay ready, here's Mark Sanchez drunk at midnight running wind sprins
Starting point is 01:25:23 because they might have a backup quarterback problem in Indy one of these days. And next thing you know, he gets called up to be the third stringer and you're just staying ready. Meanwhile, this guy pulls up in a truck just, hey, I'm here to clean out the grease. Not on my turf, buddy. And they get into a Jets for Sharks' Wet Side Story shankoff fight with a knife. And it leads both them to the hospital. It's just so dumb. And the last comment that the guy said is like,
Starting point is 01:25:49 this should never have happened. Now, they say that life is a series of decisions and consequences. What the hell are you doing? Doing Irish car bombs and running wind sprints in the back of a hotel. What's going on here? What do you think? But it just goes to show that guy's face is cut off. You don't know what's going on with Mark Sanchez?
Starting point is 01:26:07 I'll tell a quick story. This happens to do with drinking. I'm at Florida State. This is my sophomore year. And it's a Friday afternoon. And my buddy goes, I have some friends coming in town this weekend. We're going to get pissed, drug,
Starting point is 01:26:19 right enough time of our lives. All right, good, have fun, buddy. This guy, his buddy shows up. I swear to God, this changed my life forever. Buddy shows up, he goes, what's up, man, let's pound some beers. So I'm drinking some beers. I'm not a big beer guy.
Starting point is 01:26:31 I'm just watching him. Some girl walks in. She goes, some guy upstairs called me a bitch, and I don't think he, he goes, what? Let me show him what's up? This guy doesn't know anybody. He came to visit school for the weekend. He runs up to this guy's room,
Starting point is 01:26:45 bust in the door. He goes, did you call my friend a bitch? He walks in the door, the guy takes a beer bottle because he came in his room, smashes it on this guy's head. He doesn't know this guy.
Starting point is 01:26:55 This guy's now as a gash from here to here because you want to be tough on a visit to Florida State. You don't know what you're going to get up into. And it just goes to show you do stupid things, you know, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Mark Sanchez is playing stupid games
Starting point is 01:27:08 in the back of a hotel alley running wind sprints, gets stabbed by a grease fry cook. But did we hear any stories of him dealing with alcohol or drugs? Never. No, that's the point. Is that one stupid decision?
Starting point is 01:27:20 Maybe there's something. If it's one stupid decision, great, but if there's something back there, then friends and family have an opportunity. So Mark Sanchez is known for the... I think maybe there's something there. I don't know what there is. Mark Sanchez is known for the butt fumble
Starting point is 01:27:32 and not getting stabbed by a 69-year-old dude while he's doing winsprits in an alley. Did he play for USC or UCLA? He was a USC guy. He was somebody that people thought he was going to do something. After Carlson Palmer, I would say. All right, let's get to the next story here. The start of a guy, though.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Next story I want to get to is what happened here with a mayoral race in New York with Mamdani. So Chris Cuomo calls out and rips hypocrites Zohran Mamdani for owning Uganda land while championing abolition of private property. Rob, do you have that clip of Cuomo? So I don't know if there's a clip or not, but I think you either tweeted or. or there was a video of it, if you want to find it. So, Mamdani, who on the outside has a lot of ideologies. He says he's a democratic socialist, but he's got some words he uses that has to do with words
Starting point is 01:28:29 that Karl Marx use in communism. But here's Chris Cuomo, Socialist New York City, Mayor, is a hypocrite for owning Lukar Lama, Yuganova, cosplane on the campaign trail as a working-class savior. Ex-Govern Andrew Cuomo told the polls being a wealthy landowner with foreign investments while holding a rent-stabilized apartment in the tightest housing market
Starting point is 01:28:51 in the nation is the height of hypocrisy, said Cuomo, who's running as an independent and polling second behind front-runer Mamdani in a mayoral razor on. Ma'am-Dani can call himself a working-class champion all he wants, but it's just an act from an award-winning director's son working men and women don't live in mansions
Starting point is 01:29:07 with armed guards and have family homes around the world. Alligarchs sons do. Zoro Mamdani is a mansion boy living off family's wealth. I don't know, Rob, is there a clip of that or no? No, I believe he told the post this, so it was an interview. Got it. So the 33-year-old Queen's Assemblyman who has pushed for the abolition of private property reported in recent state
Starting point is 01:29:27 and city financial disclosure filings that he owned a vacant land in Jinja, Uganda valued at $100,000 to $250,000 since 2012. His high-flying parents, Columbia University professor Mahmoud Mamdani and Mansu. wedding filmmaker Miraneer also own a breathtaking five bedroom four bathroom villa in Uganda overlooking Lake Victoria
Starting point is 01:29:51 that's been renting out in Airbnb for the last eight years so that's the property there yeah that's the property so but you do have the while this is taking place Tom is there anything between now because what month is it
Starting point is 01:30:04 we're in October so what do they say happens in October they call a surprise today is the fifth the election is exactly four weeks and one day from today, okay? Four weeks and one day because that's what? Four weeks,
Starting point is 01:30:18 Monday, one day, Tuesday, November 4th. That's what I think it falls on. Is there anything that can happen the next four weeks, Tom, for Mamdani to lose? Anything. I don't think so. Short of Curtis, and I'm talking about
Starting point is 01:30:34 the Republican candidate. Curtis Sliwa. Yep. And short of him dropping out and they're being such a resurgent. towards Cuomo. I mean, it's got to be big. You have to have a dropout, and you have to have more than a October surprise. You need an October nuclear surprise.
Starting point is 01:30:56 And I think this is very telling. And this is where Chris Cuomo is being a news guy, doing research on things. And then Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo, coming out and calling him, calling him out on these things. and there's things going on here that I think are just not enough. I just don't think it's going to get there, Pat. And Andrew Cuomo, in a related story, he actually apologized to people for COVID. So Cuomo is doing, Andrew, that is, is doing everything he can to say, hey, I'm sorry. I really apologize for this to, and I think he was speaking specifically to Jewish New Yorkers, if I'm correct, Adam.
Starting point is 01:31:36 He was speaking to that audience very specifically. and they're calling this guy out for being, you know, a mansion boy who has got these thoughts, and this is what he wants to do, but he's really come from nothing. I don't think it's going to move it. Are we going to tighten up, Pat? Could it be five points or seven points? I think it could, but I don't think he can get past that.
Starting point is 01:32:01 And Andrew Cuomo came out and apologized to the Jewish New Yorkers for COVID-19 lockdown. Rob, is this it? Yes, sir. Go for it. My friends, as we approach Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the year, we are reminded this is a time of reflection, of forgiveness, and of recommitting ourselves to do even better. Of course, that is true for all of us. And it's true for our leaders as well. During COVID, as governor, I made decisions with the best of intentions to protect health and save lives. However, I recognize that some of those decisions caused pain in the Jewish community
Starting point is 01:32:39 because we did not always fully consider the sensitivities and traditions that are so deeply important. We could have done better, and for that, I am truly sorry. My intentions don't change the impact, and I sincerely ask for your understanding. On this Holy Day of Atonement, I am committed to learning from these lessons. Today, Jewish New Yorkers face another challenge the rise of anti-Semitism. It is real, it is dangerous, and it must be confronted. An attack on the Jewish community is an attack on every New Yorker
Starting point is 01:33:18 because we are one family, the family of New York. Yeah, right. I stand with you. Adam, how do you feel about what he's saying? Well, that was a nice little hostage reading a script up by Governor Cuomo. Now, as much as I... Seems a lack warmth, didn't it?
Starting point is 01:33:36 That's true, Tom. As much as I enjoy Chris Cuomo... He was just reading from the table. As much as I like Chris Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo is a dead man walking. I don't mean literally, guys. But you know, they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks?
Starting point is 01:33:50 This is a very old political dog. And it's just very obvious. Reading this sort of like stage letter, I apologize to the Jewish community on the holiest day like stop it uh at the very least learn something from what mom donnie's got going on he's a charismatic young leader who's thriving on the social media world and andrew komo is reading scripted letters still in 2025 when people want authenticity now uh is mom dani authentic you better believe it is he does he want to authentically globalize
Starting point is 01:34:28 the antifata yes is he a democratic socialist Yes, is he secretly some sort of capitalist that owns property in Uganda, as if that's like the Hamptons? Yeah, he's a social justice warrior. And he's going to win this election. I think the polymarket odds are, I don't know, 85% or so. Andrew Cuomo, thank you for serving your state, for your city, your country. Your time is done. You've about 30 more days of being relevant.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Respect to you, the fact that you haven't done podcasts all over the country is a gullible. glaring weakness. It's like the Kamala Harris approach. What are you doing, bro? I can't wait for your book to come out. Anyway, as far as what Mamdani stands for, it just all sounds great. But we've seen this a million times, whether it's Bernie or AOC. And now him, he's got a math problem. It's not realistic. He will take an endorsement from Eric Adams, but he will not take an endorsement from Donald Trump. Why do you think that is? So he just said that to Kristen Walker two days ago, three days ago. So here's a part. Like that was the only chance he had. Yep. Because if Trump would have called in to say New Yorkers, we got to get behind Andrew Cuomo.
Starting point is 01:35:41 That is literally the last shot he had and he gave that up. I don't know. And then when you watch a clip like this, look, there's, you know how you have the good guy, bad guy, like who's in your ear right? Yeah. There's one side that I'm like, oh, Oh, dude, I can't wait for Mamdani to win for people to see what's going to happen, how shitty this is going to be, right? And then the other side of me, it's like, I freaking love New York. We go to New York. We're hoping to go to Yankees game, but this, listen, I have to tell you,
Starting point is 01:36:11 I don't know, the last time I had this much animosity towards Canadians was Pierre Poliev. I haven't been this upset towards Canadians since Pierre Poliev. And Pierre Poliev, who won the worst candidates ever who was talented, Apple-eating candidate, who's a great speaker, but was lazy to pompous, arrogant to go sit down and talk to the regular average day-to-day people he didn't want to do because he thought he was better than you. He disappeared too.
Starting point is 01:36:38 And so Toronto decides to play the Yankees and do what they do. Toronto, I don't like you right now. And Vladimir Guerrero, screw you with your grand slam home run. You put up there going six for seven. I think Adam made a great point. I'm sorry, Tom. I don't appreciate you interrupting me.
Starting point is 01:36:54 I don't like what happened. And I'm not happy what happened there, Tom. As good of a point as he made, I'm moving on to the next door. That's true. Next door that we need to get to is, I don't know whether I go to this one or to this one. Both of them are good stores. Which one should I go to? Go to that one.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Did you have the one with the viewership? Is that what you had, Rob? Yes, I just sent you something as well. Okay, let me see. Oh, is that the one we're talking about? Yep. Okay, I love it. Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Okay, so let's go through this. So check this out, folks. some very, very interesting data that will surprise you. But hang tight because after I give you this interesting data, there's a small media company that not a lot of people are paying attention to that, you know, but the people in media space kind of know I want to share with you what happened with them. Watch this.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Fox News dominates news brands with 1.1 billion YouTube views during Q3. And everybody in the marketplace is talking about it, okay? Everybody's talking about this, what Fox News is doing. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody, club again, Tipsy. But so you're like, right? So let's read this.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Let's read the story if I can find a right page and I can read it to you. So here we are. All right. So number one brand on YouTube with more than one billion video views, Fox Now News, led the runner-up, MSNBC, by 200 million views. Videos shown also top NBC News, ABC News, CBS News, Combined. Damn! During the news heavy third quarter, Fox News grew 45% compared to last year to pile up 1.1 billion views compared to 848 to MSNBC, 627 to CNN, 424 to NBC, and 359 for ABC and 163 for CBS, according to Amplify. It was the fourth consecutive quarter that Fox News surpassed all news brands.
Starting point is 01:38:50 Fox News finished the quarter strong with 408 million views. just the shalacking is the way to put it. I don't even know if that word is a proper word here or not. We're dealing with a limited amount of vocabulary, but I think shalacking would be appropriate, Vinny. It's a good word. That's actually a really strong word. So if you look at this, though, Tom,
Starting point is 01:39:08 there is a small media company. And by the way, folks, can you do me favor? If you guys love the way Tom's been dressing up lately, this is brought to you by Stefano Richie. Tom is looking so good that every day we're done with the podcast. there's 10 girls waiting for him that are former throwing themselves. Forman,
Starting point is 01:39:26 former woman that were working on projects of general contract. Jumping on his car. They're saying, Mike has to hold them back. Busy doc! But anyways, go back to the story.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Watch this. Watch this here. So the numbers, there's a small media company, a small little media company that is competing with some of these other guys. And watch what these guys are putting up, Rob.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Can you pull up this other number here? Because we at Valuetainan also had a record breaking quarter. Weird. On YouTube alone. Look at that right there. Okay, so Fox was 1.1 billion. MSNBC was 848 million. VT and PPD podcast, 692 million. By the way, if we put VT comedy, we're number one, okay? That's all I was just going to say.
Starting point is 01:40:06 But we'll separate the comedy. All right, we'll separate. Because Vinny alone with comedy probably destroyed a couple of these guys as well himself. But watch this. VT and PPD podcast. Wow. We beat CNN by 70 million views. Damn.
Starting point is 01:40:20 65 million views, NBC 424, ABC 359, and CBS, we nearly 5xed CBS. Think about it. If you really think about it. That is insane. We're just stuck there in the little middle. YouTube, okay? YouTube, okay? 692 million views, and we just wanted to say thank you because it wouldn't happen without
Starting point is 01:40:45 you and thanks to the whole team that's working. But by the way, folks, you have to realize. When I tell you we're just getting started, I'm literally telling you we're just getting started. FYI, if you guys have anybody, Tom and I are going to be doing one segment per week of the three podcasts that we're doing per week. One of them, we're thinking about making it business only. If you have anybody that you know on the business side, we would like to bring a big name with us to talk business stories on a weekly basis. Because next year the vault, we're holding it at MGM Grand Arena. I was just in Las Vegas a few days ago coming back and we have a big vision of what we want to do with Volcan.
Starting point is 01:41:20 conference by 2030. If there's anyone you have that's a business content creator, let us know we're interested. We're hiring talent right now left and right. Her take, Rob, you know the her take link. If you can put it below as well. We are hiring right now aggressively. We're looking for strong talent. If you know anybody, tell us about it. We are definitely looking for some good people. You know, if I was running a political campaign and maybe I was behind and I saw a chart like this, oh, never mind. I'm just thinking out loud. Yeah. So Tom, that that takes makes me into the next story, which is a very interesting story that I'm sure you want to talk about. PornHop suffers 50% drop in UK traffic after age restriction at it.
Starting point is 01:42:01 I warned them. Because we're talking about viewership, and I think viewers should, while people are watching more Fox News at MSNBC and VT, people are watching fewer porn in UK. Now, that could be the reason for the crime. Some people are speculating, but who knows? going on here. So let me read this to you. Online traffic for pornography has plummeted in the UK after new age verification laws were put in place over the summer since July 25th, porn users, to all the public porn users in England, Scotland and Wales, as well, let's not forget about Northern Ireland, must prove they are 18 or older by uploading
Starting point is 01:42:47 identity documents, credit card information, or selfie that uses facial recognition technology to guess their age. Did you hear about this? Yes. You're about to watch porn. You're like, I'm going to say cheese. Two years old. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Porn up the most visited adult website in the world suffered a staggering 50% plummet. I thought it was going to be 90% to be honest with you. I said 50 to 9. This is the exact idea I was proposing and the Pornhub owners were not okay about it. And I said, part of it was like 50% or more than 1 million visitors, according to
Starting point is 01:43:23 the Australian Broadcasting Company, Hannah Swirski, the head of policy and public affairs at the Internet Watch Foundation, the nonprofit that works to eradicate child sexual exploitation online, told the outlet that the regulators have been effective. The regulator have been very clear that self-declaration, so just ticking a box to say that you're above 18 is not a highly effective form of age. Assurance, she said, children were often raising the issue of involuntarily seeing harmful content, such as pornography, online, and this also makes a lot harder. They're talking about, like, difficult.
Starting point is 01:44:00 It's a bad word. Such as porn. Online that it also makes it a lot difficult, I'm changing the word, if you are trying to seek this material out. So, by the way, because of this, Playboy magazine and old Hustler magazines are on fire in UK right now. It's eBay. people are buying
Starting point is 01:44:16 people are buying and selling them but let me tell you let me tell you I don't know if we can find the clip or not this is exactly when I talked to the porn hub owners that came in the rabbi remember when I was having that conversation with the guy and I said he's a rabbi yes yeah when I had the guy on and I said why don't you guys require people to put IDs if you're telling me because a lot the question I was asking is how do you know the porn stars in these
Starting point is 01:44:43 movies in these videos are over a Well, we know because of X, Y, Z. Why don't you just ID all of them? No, we can't do that because X, well. So this is the problem with this. Tom, when you look at this here as an expert yourself, like you're watching data, viewership that comes in. What do you say about the story?
Starting point is 01:44:59 Well, first of all, this is finally coming to the Internet what had been in place in other ways. You know, kids who go to 7-11 or whatever try buy Playboy if we weren't 18, you wouldn't let you buy it, right? And you wouldn't like to get that. And the internet just gave everybody access to it. And this is why parents have been, you know, really freaking out, especially when Facebook was caught, doing deliberate manipulations to put certain content in front of young girls.
Starting point is 01:45:29 And parents were saying, and that wasn't pornographic content, that was comparative content. And girls were feeling very depressed about their image. They don't get as much likes. And that was leading to documentation about teenage suicides. So what happens online is not. good. There's a lot of things that are not good. And one of the things people have been talking about, and Florida did it. Florida has an age requirement. If you're trying to log in in Florida, I don't know how they do it. If it senses that you're at an IP address that's in Florida zip code,
Starting point is 01:46:00 I suppose, you're not supposed to be allowed to see certain things in Florida. And I think that Pornhub is now seen in the UK, and the UK has said, okay, enough of this. We want the age restriction in place. Here's how we're going to find out if you're viewing it from the UK and you have to do all this. And you tell me a kid that's going to, a 19 year old kid is not going to take a selfie, upload his driver's license and a credit card later information that can be hacked. So somebody hacks the porn site later and has all this customer information and it publishes a list of who's who and what you like watching. No, no, no one's going to do that. So it has an effect of having a positive effect taking the underage viewership away, at least we hope, you know,
Starting point is 01:46:48 and I think they're discovering that when you're trying to, you know, put some big marketing thrust to increase your sales and penetrate the youth market and you're unsuccessful, you're going to see your sales go down and you're going to take it short. I just want, because I'm sorry because I have to take a step back. the owner of Pornhub is a rabbi and who's the girl next to him that I saw rocking a cross on her chest? Who is that?
Starting point is 01:47:15 Wait, you never watch this interview? I was, I didn't. She's a nun. She's a nuns. No, no, but I'm just curious. And then there's an imam right there that's running the town. Hold on, I'm dead serious.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Is that cool for a rabbi to own, like, a porn? No, I'm just saying in general. This is the owner. This is who we had. Solomon. What? He's the owner. He's a lawyer.
Starting point is 01:47:35 I swear you, I had no idea. He's not a lawyer. He's a lawyer. You've never seen this interview. The criminal lawyer. Okay, you have to watch this interview. I'm going to number one, but number two, a rabbi is a religious guy and he's a lawyer. You have to, and no, but hang on a second.
Starting point is 01:47:47 I ask him all those questions. You should go watch it. I swear to you, I want to watch it. You should go watch. It's actually such an interesting interview. Okay, and who's the girl sitting next to them? A girl is somebody that's been with him for many, many years. Okay.
Starting point is 01:48:00 When I bought it, they, when I watched it, they had just bought it. It's not like they owned it for 15 years. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah. the company was going through challenges. They saw this as an opportunity to clean it up and be able to do. So they added new technology to it.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Yeah, Rob, but do you remember some of the stuff that I said in the conversation with this guy? Did you find it or no? I think I found a portion. Hang on one second. I'm going to watch it tonight because I can't believe it. So a lawyer owns and then he's got Rabbi Beg Booty on his staff.
Starting point is 01:48:28 You're going to love this interview. And she's about it. I'm not pointing. I'm just pointing out. And she's wearing a cross on her neck. That made it very uncomfortable. That's weird, bro. You know what I asked?
Starting point is 01:48:37 I said, isn't your goal to get people to stop making porn? I said, your goal isn't for people to make porn, right? You want people to stop making porn and go have normal lives. Well, no, we think this is actually an honorable profession. That's when they lost me. I said, wait a minute. If they're on, are you guys helping people to stop making porn? That was the question.
Starting point is 01:48:56 Rob, played a clip. While the video is being shot, there needs to be someone saying, before we do this scene, this is what it is. I am at this age, we're shooting it at this age, here's how old I am, and here's how old he is, I am 22 years old, he is 24 years old, I'm 21 years old, he's 19 years old, this is what's about to happen, then you could say, yes, 100% we know, and then you have to see, is that ID being verified on an ID website to be able to, the ability to check, so let's go back to the other question. What is the business model of porn up? I don't know what the business model. How do you guys make money?
Starting point is 01:49:36 It's an ad-supported platform primarily. So it's not a membership. It's an ad-supported. That's right. So ALO as a company, we have porn methods, ad-supported, and then we have subscription-based sites like browsers. Yeah, we can't stop. I mean... That cross is burning on her chest. It's worth watching. I promise what I will.
Starting point is 01:49:54 It seriously is worth watching to learn more about it. I was so curious about this. And we had another one. We had Leila Mickleweight, who's the lawyer that sued them. Do you know about later McAway? The pretty girl, I remember somebody that was pretty. In the middle of the podcast, Rob got it was a good idea to go to Pornhob.com. Oh, great. That's my boy. That's my boy.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Actually, that's serious. He went on them. It wasn't his idea. I said, no, you can go through. You're not going to get in trouble. So he goes to Pornhap.com. And I'm like, did you know on the home page there's everything? I thought there's like a disclosure before you go.
Starting point is 01:50:27 No, I definitely didn't know that, Pat. Yeah, they just jumped right in. Rob was doing his due diligence. Well, regarding this porn and what they're doing, I actually think I'm okay with the UK doing this. I mean, as much as they're curbing free speech in the UK, I actually love what they're doing it. Curbing access to porn hub.
Starting point is 01:50:49 So here's some stats for you. The most likely to watch porn are 18 to 34-year-old men. They're two and a half times more likely to watch porn than women. Apparently there's a sharp decline after age 55. but you still might make jokes. The internet, in my opinion, should be 18 plus because if you need to be 18 to buy a pack of cigarettes or 21 to drink, I would argue the things you can see on the internet and the things you can experience on social media are way worse, way worse.
Starting point is 01:51:25 Talk about hiding kids from harmful content. Look, back in the day, we all remember being a 14-year-old boy, 15-year-old boy, what you would do to get a Playboy magazine. Let's not all get it twisted. I mean, I know young men that would cut off their young, their left arm, definitely not their right arm, definitely not their right arm unless they had ambidextric's tendencies to get a playboy. Now you can go on the internet and watch anything you'd ever wanted in the world. This is a, this is very challenging for young people. If I had kids that were 13 plus 18, you know, under 18, I'd be very, very cautious is letting them anywhere near the internet.
Starting point is 01:52:03 It's a safety matter. FYI. FYI, good for UK. We talk a lot of crap about UK with how they handle a lot of different things, immigration. Good for you for doing this right. Maybe, I don't know, maybe it's like,
Starting point is 01:52:18 maybe, by the way, it kind of does make sense for UK, though, because of the increased level of Muslims in UK, maybe they would support for these levels of measures to go in for there not to be porn available for people under the age of their team. Very, very interesting because culturally, that's, that's no good. No, no, no, no. That's not, that's not, that's no good for them. But look, there's a lot of angles I could go right now.
Starting point is 01:52:49 I'll go for us. Let's just make this. Pull back. Let's just make this about this right now, and we'll go on to some of the other stories. All right. Next story. Next story I want to get into French Influencer, folks. This is one of the darkest stories I've seen in a long time.
Starting point is 01:53:04 And, you know, normally we'll say this person's doing dumb things. I don't know if you put anything above this. So this is a guy that's an influencer in France going around with a needle shooting people up. And there's no, no, no, he's dead serious. By the way, so let me just read the story to you. I'm not here. Okay. French influencer Amin Mojito,
Starting point is 01:53:31 a decent last name, sentenced to prison after terrifying syringe pranks videos. What? Okay. So I see this. I'm like, there's no way this is real. French Enverbalch Amiromito Amriton, his Ilan Am, was recently sentenced to jail
Starting point is 01:53:48 following outrage and feared that was generated in France from his syringe prank videos. The Paris Criminal Court made the ruling on Friday, October 3 and sentenced the 27-year-old to 12 months in prison, of which six months shall be served in custody and the rest suspended. Mohito was also fined $1,500 and prohibited from possessing or carrying a gun for three years. This prankster went viral when he posted clips where he spoofed, injecting bystanders with empty syringes on Parisian Street. They went viral just days before the county's Fete del Musique, World Music Day in June, when France was on edge enough due to unfounded rumors of attack involving needles at festivals and student parties.
Starting point is 01:54:34 By the way, earmuffs, if you can't watch stuff like this, don't do it. I'm giving you the warning. But here's the clip. Go ahead, Rob. Look what he does, Adam. Look. But he's stabbing you. Bro.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Look at that. What's going in your mind? I was just stabbed. Like, look. Like, look at what the, bro? We're gonna, what the, bro? Look, what the, bro? Look, like.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Oh, is that a cat? Oh, my God. deserves every ass whooping he could possibly get. I honestly don't think the amount of crime he got is not enough. Oh, I fully agree with you. I think 12 months is nothing. I think this is like... Oh, whoop his ass.
Starting point is 01:55:34 Whop his ass, dude. Dude, what is wrong with this guy? Like, bro, bro. This guy's neck, dude. Are you kidding me? What the fuck? What the fuck. Like in your head, you're like, what do I, what do he give me?
Starting point is 01:55:52 Aides? Remember that guy that was running out and putting HIV into people? Let me, let me, can I be dead serious with you? I, Mike, you know, I would have, I'm telling you right now, I would have shot him. He's lucky he's doing it there where nobody has a gun. What did you just say? I would have shot him dead. What if he does this in Texas?
Starting point is 01:56:09 Oh, bro, this guy's finished. When it comes to my life and my safe. One of those 10 people is going to draw down. I would have won. Listen, put all the, I, I, it's still. practicing Christian he's trying to kill me because I don't know what the hell is in there HIV whatever the hell
Starting point is 01:56:24 bro poison I'm going to all he got is 12 months oh how about this the guy that's in on it with him recording he should be in jail too and the judge you're an accomplice for a public menace the judge said just for anybody out there that's armed Rob I'm really curious Rob can we
Starting point is 01:56:40 can we ask our audience Pat just a regular concealed or open carrying now in Florida carrying if a guy with a mask is a Approaching you with the syringe to hit you, are you going to shoot him? I don't think, look, we're not inside. No, I'm not. We're not recommending this.
Starting point is 01:56:55 No, I'm not. Let me ask the question this way. This is a better way of asking this question. What would you do if somebody did this to you? What would you do? You're with your girl. You're with your wife. You're with your kids.
Starting point is 01:57:08 Somebody comes and puts a needle in your wife's arms. Oh, my God. Or your kid. I don't even want, I don't even, I can't even tell you where my mind is going. That drives me crazy that he's doing that. Let me tell you. This guy deserves every ass whooping he could have possibly gotten. You notice he didn't do it to any big, strong, tough masculine dudes.
Starting point is 01:57:25 It was always like women or like old guys sitting down. Any one big guy was at the bench and they would try to hunt this guy down. But it just goes to show this whole get rich quick, go viral quick, sort of lifestyle thing. It's going to, it's, it's this click bait attention, eyeball mentality. It has a very deep, dark side. Like, you've seen pranks where, like, we've talked about this guy. The guy goes and he's like, well, so best, say, you got a problem? And he's, like, joking with these guys.
Starting point is 01:57:55 Then he gets his ass whooped. Or maybe he gets almost like, so, like, some people take these pranks way too far. In my opinion, they set a horrible precedent with this. He had to pay 1,500 pounds. And 1,500 euro, and he's only getting 6 to 12 months in jail. This guy's going to come out of jail and do this crap again. 100%. Because this is what he's known for.
Starting point is 01:58:16 You're making an important point. This guy needs to be shamed and condemned and set an example. Well, if that happens... But you'll be making an important point about likes and pranks. You know, in that, it's a slippery slope because, Adam, you're right. Each prank has got to be bigger and weirder and odder than the next one to get even more likes. And you go down a slippery slope to you have a guy that's actually doing this. Whereas if he was in a place like Texas or Florida where a lot of people carry,
Starting point is 01:58:43 all you need is one out of ten to draw down. and flinch. That's all you need. And I don't wish that on him, but I'm just saying the consequences of just freaking people out. You know where this takes me? By the way, comment section, you guys are unbelievably funny what people are saying, even though this is not a funny topic. Rob, do you remember when Shugnott comes out of jail? Okay? And he goes on Kimmel. Okay, have you seen this? And what he says, don't say anything. I want to see, if they haven't seen it, I want them to, have you ever seen this? Okay. Let me show this to you. I've definitely not watched Kimmel.
Starting point is 01:59:16 So that's probably what I'm about 15 years ago, okay? So he's on, he goes on Jimmy Camel. That's it, Rob, good for you. There you go. Watch this. Go ahead. Right. Why is the bulletproof best?
Starting point is 01:59:29 Oh, it's not, oh, no, that's just, it's in a style. You've been in the can for a while. Listen. Should all the talk to a host are wearing. This is a new thing, right? Yeah. See, if somebody's going to do somebody, see, technology is so high, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:59:43 So if you shoot somebody, you go to jail forever. So the kids, you don't want to go to jail forever, right? So they got this new thing out there. People sell them all the time. They got the stuff to call, they get blood from somebody with AIDS, and then they shoot you with it. Oh, that seems bad. That's a slow death.
Starting point is 01:59:58 Yeah. That easy E thing, you know what I mean? Yeah. Easy E thing. Okay. He said that? You've never seen this? An easy Ease thing?
Starting point is 02:00:07 The easy E thing. Oh, he even had it. I didn't know. Yeah. The easy E thing. Meaning somebody died from AIDS. Yeah, Kit Fraze. is telling a story of EZ's on the 8th floor of this hospital,
Starting point is 02:00:19 which was the 8th thing. People would only go on the 8th floor if it was 8th. One of his girls was calling Kit Frost saying EZ's on the 8th floor. And Kit Frost tells this exact story and says there's a guy in hip-hop. They call him the devil. He says, the people who know this, they know who I'm talking about. It's a seven-minute clip. I've had Kit Frost on a podcast before.
Starting point is 02:00:38 We had him on 10 years ago. And what's his devil guy doing? The hip-hop is the devil? No, no. He's saying this guy goes around. He's saying Shuck was the devil? Yeah. Going around and just injecting people with age.
Starting point is 02:00:48 This is not a real, this is not a, this is, this is a terrible joke to play. And the crime used to be a much higher crime than what that guy got. That is just absolutely insane when you think about that. Anyways, let's get to the next door here. Back to back highs, August as September, bringing $62.6 billion of revenue in tariffs. Okay, back to back. and with the $62.6 billion dollars of tariffs
Starting point is 02:01:15 that the U.S. government collected the last two months the president is now floating an idea of handing out, well, I'll let him tell you. Go ahead, Rob. Your tariffs are going to be over a trillion dollars a year, in my opinion. We're going to do something. We're looking at something where, number one, we're paying down debt because people have allowed the debt to go crazy.
Starting point is 02:01:38 But, you know, with growth, with the kind of growth we have now, the debt is very little, relatively speaking. You grow yourself out of that debt. It's not a question of paying it. You grow yourself out. And the numbers are so much bigger than they ever were. The numbers we have now are bigger than they ever were. So when you have $36 trillion in debt a year ago or two years ago, and you have a lot less revenue coming in, then you have 37 or 38. It's not 38 yet, but it will be. And the numbers are so much bigger. All of a sudden, 38, you're under levered, whereas the 36, you were highly levered. We're not highly levered anymore.
Starting point is 02:02:14 Now, with that being said, we'll pay back debt, but we also might make a distribution to the people, almost like a dividend to the people of America. How much are you thinking for that, sir? Well, we're thinking maybe $1,000 to $2,000. Be great.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Can you imagine $1,000 to $2,000 to send out to people with the tariffs? So what happened to all the people that were screaming about the tariffs down? Yeah, I remember that. Where are those guys? Yeah. Where did they go?
Starting point is 02:02:41 I was on certain podcasts. Now, don't get me wrong. Some prices are up because of tariffs. It's not like some industries are not taking a hit. I'm trying to buy a watch. And the guy is saying, Pat, it's a very well-known brand. People know what the brand is. So he's going back and forth and not buying directly from them.
Starting point is 02:02:58 And he says, the reason why this watch is not here yet is they're waiting for the tariffs to change in the next few months before they ship it out. Because right now the tariffs are very high on this. So some industries are definitely taking hit on tariffs. There's no question about it. But the reality of it is, you know what people are realizing? Every once in a while when you change the comp plan and your sales team at first is like,
Starting point is 02:03:22 eh, I don't know if this is going to be real. I don't know if it's going to be permanent. It's probably just a temporary comp plan. Sometimes it takes three, six, 12 months for people to realize, this thing is here to stay. I better make some adjustments. They want my quality of business to improve. So I think that's what they're doing.
Starting point is 02:03:36 It's obvious. Now it's not going away. Tom, your thoughts on this. Vinny, let's do some math, but make it. Oh, damn it, Tom. No, no, no, no, no. Like, I was having such a great Monday morning. Okay.
Starting point is 02:03:47 Okay, go. Why is there a tariff? Because stuff's coming from over there to over here. Oh, no. So we've got tariffs on it, right? So they have to pay tariffs to go to the government. Yeah. So you are a manufacturer.
Starting point is 02:04:00 So you don't want to make it over there anymore because it gets tariff coming over here and then you sell it to Americans. Yeah. So what if you start making it over here? Okay. Who do you need to help you make it? America. Americans, because you give them jobs.
Starting point is 02:04:12 I did good. And guess what? The tariff money goes down because you're no longer making them over there and paying a tariff over here. Now people over here called American workers have jobs. And they're paying taxes to the government. So now the government gets the money that way. So tariffs is a way to pull jobs back over here.
Starting point is 02:04:34 And as Pat said, there's an adjustment. So you don't have to do the math. You can just do the steps. Thank God. We're collecting tariff now, and so if Americans really want that product, that product, that product, that product, and there's a tariff on it that's going to be built into the price. However, over long term, Vinny, the business owner, says, maybe I should figure out a way to make it over here, and I'll employ American workers, and I'll make it over here. And you'll select areas where you can pay a certain wage because housing is a certain price. And so it creates this effect, this incentive.
Starting point is 02:05:06 And that's what Pat's talking about, you put together a compensation plan. And all of a sudden, your salespeople go, oh, wait a minute. If I sell these products, I get a little bit better commission than selling these products. Well, guess what? Then I'm going to get good at presenting and talking to customers and selling these products. That's how it works. And so what's happening here is phase one is working. And then phase two is how many American companies want to figure out how to put the jobs over here.
Starting point is 02:05:35 it won't always be easy real estate may be expensive it's expensive to build and you get and worker wages and everything over here that we should pay so people can live yeah that's correct but work your way out of it and bring those jobs back home and that is exactly what the president's doing and it's having a success to the point where now he's looking at it and saying you know what the tariffs that works so well what if i give everybody a thousand two thousand like a tariff benefit whether it's on your taxes or some other way guess what he's not printing money like Biden says hey sorry COVID is messed up your life here's 1400 bucks he's saying hey we're changing the playing field for America here's a little sugar they can't do that Tom I just did the math because if they if they give $2,000 how many working people do you think he has to give it to I think they're I didn't see it but I'm not assuming it's population I'm assuming it's like tax paying unit or households okay I'm assuming so how many households would it be? Probably barely a 110, 115 million. I think. Do you know that's $200 billion? It's true. He can't make these types of promises if you can deliver. To send
Starting point is 02:06:49 $1,000, $2,000, that's a $200, you do $2,000. Yeah, the math has to work. Otherwise you're Joe Biden. No, the math doesn't work. So if you do $2,000 times $100,000. okay he's got 132 million households here 2,000 times 132 million households you're looking at 264 billion dollars that's the first year revenue of tariffs has gone i don't think it's a good idea and and i think if they if they were going to send it to anybody i think you have to be selective on who you send it to uh but uh or you just don't do it yeah we can't afford to send 260 billion dollars adam do you have any thoughts on the story yeah well it reminds me of the story that uh the time where you actually during the Trump tax cuts
Starting point is 02:07:34 when you rewarded employees. I think you said for every month that you were with me, you're going to give them $100. 100 bucks. So some people ended up getting thousands of dollars, I would assume. So you definitely want to reward loyalty.
Starting point is 02:07:46 You definitely want to reward people on your side. You actually also want to reward people for staying the course on, you know, sort of going with you. At the same time, they do have a math problem. I don't know how this is going to work. I don't know how this is going to help inflation. I don't know how this is going to help our debt.
Starting point is 02:08:00 I don't understand how that's going to work. but I do like the idea of rewarding people who have been with you. But I will give Trump credit. The numbers just came out. This was the end of September where they said the U.S. GDP expanded at a strong 3.8% pace in the second quarter. And that was revised because they actually predicted it would be closer to 3.3%. So it was actually 3.8, which is almost 4. They thought it would be 3.3, which is closer to 3.
Starting point is 02:08:26 And if you know anything about dynamic growth in our country, average GDP annualized is somewhere between, 2 and 3% meaning we're doing good in America in the second quarter so we'll see what happens for the rest of the year but for all the people
Starting point is 02:08:43 that were like after what was it Independence Day not Independence Day what did Trump call it when it's going to be the certain day where Liberation Day
Starting point is 02:08:54 Liberation Day everyone was like oh my God the tariffs what's going to happen turns out we're taking in money turns out that inflation has not risen. It turns out that employment is doing okay. Turns out the Fed has cut rates. Turns out
Starting point is 02:09:07 that Trump was right about everything. All right. Let's get to the next thing here. All right. Bad Bunny folks. I know you guys got a few months left to learn how to speak in Spanish. That's what he's telling you. Rob, can we play those clips or no? We can play the Bad Bunny one.
Starting point is 02:09:22 So Bad Bunny trolls mega critics of his Super Bowl halftime show while hosting Saturday night live and he took a shot at Fox News. And you have to hear what he had to say at Fox News. But Bad Money Mockta's critics with Fox News. I'll just let you watch the clip and we'll react to it. Go ahead, Rob. I'm very excited to be doing the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 02:09:40 And I know that people all around the world who love my music are also happy, especially, especially all the Latino. Those people are just randomly in the audience. It's random. The Latino and the world entire. And here in the States, Unido, all the persons who have worked to open portas, More than my people here in America that are working hard doing their thing.
Starting point is 02:10:06 And more than a loggro of all, demonstrating that our whey and our portation in this country, nobody can never can't get or not get or borrow. I want a burrito so bad right now. I'm so hungry. And if you didn't understand
Starting point is 02:10:22 what I just said, you have four months to learn. We have a great show for you to not. Go, your chap, is here. Just so you guys, no, I don't know if you've ever been to SNL. There's applause signs. So every time the audience is cheering when he's speaking Spanish,
Starting point is 02:10:43 they're being queued by the staff at SNL to cheer. It's not like those people actually understood what Bad Bunny was saying. Maybe some of them did. But they're being queued to cheer by the people at SNL. And they are usually warmed up by local comics that come on and do three minutes each, give or take and sometimes members of their own cast will come out I don't know if
Starting point is 02:11:03 our friend who has been on here from Miami has done it but they usually get them really warmed up before they go out so Adam thoughts so what is exactly the problem with bad bony performing at the Super Bowl I want to understand this so I can fully
Starting point is 02:11:20 embrace what the argument is is the fact that he's not quote unquote American he's Puerto Rican is the fact that he doesn't love Trump like what's the criticism. Have you heard what he said or no? I want to know what is it that's triggering people. Yeah. I've heard things. I've heard comments he's made. What have you heard? What have you heard about the comments he's made? What have you heard about comments he's made that's upset conservatives? So that's what I'm asking for clarification on. I've heard comments, but nothing has been so
Starting point is 02:11:48 radical that I'm like, oh my God, cancel him from the Super Bowl. Such as what? What have you heard? So why don't you tell me some of the comments that? But you're asking a question. This is your story. So you circled it. So don't, if you're circling that that's your story, don't start off with a question. Make the comment. No, sir. What comment you have on this? Because this is your story. So what I'm asking is, why are people so upset by this? Let's just get, first things first.
Starting point is 02:12:10 Go for it. Do I condone everything he said ever about ICE and Trump? No. But at the same time, I can acknowledge this is one of the biggest musical artists in the world, period. Okay? And that doesn't mean he should be excused from saying horrible things. But let's be very
Starting point is 02:12:26 careful cancel culturing people. because you don't like what they have to say. So let's not forget the NFL, because he's going to potentially be forming at the Super Bowl, this is a global brand. If you've noticed anything about the NFL, games they've had this season, Mexico, Germany, London, they're trying to expand their brand,
Starting point is 02:12:43 and they would love to expand it into Latin America. So they can stop playing football and play American football. So whether it's the World Cup, whether it's the Olympics, these are global brands. So to say that you don't want a global superstar who's dating, by the way, one of the Jenner chicks, Kendall Jenner, because he said some not favorable things about Trump, I think is a little feckless.
Starting point is 02:13:05 Now, am I an advocate of someone that talks shit about America? Hell no, but I'm not going to cancel somebody because you don't agree with their opinion. That's un-American to me. So if there's something that he's said that I'm unaware of that it's completely uncalled for, I'd love to hear it. But critiquing ICE and critiquing Trump is not grounds for firing someone from the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 02:13:25 Not from firing, but Adam, look at your audience. Who is watching football? The world. No, it's Americans. Americans. As if Bud Light didn't get the message. Like, just, let's just think about this.
Starting point is 02:13:37 Why would you take something like Bud Light and put Gay Beyond Gayness, Dylan Mulvaney, meaning Bud Light as a company, they listen to one person in there. Are you saying Bad Bunny is the equivalent of Dylan Mulvaney? No, no, what I'm saying is, well, by the way, if you've been following, Bad Bunny used to be dope.
Starting point is 02:13:54 he got into Hollywood now he's wearing dresses all the time oh you know who else did that in Hollywood every dude ever that's Hollywood and doing satanic worshiping videos I'm with you
Starting point is 02:14:05 and guess what and that's what you're going to be but that's Hollywood but the Super Bowl halftime show is supposed to be entertainment and this is supposed to be but by the football
Starting point is 02:14:14 is an American sport you're going to bring a guy that's basically telling America I'm just saying it from from an advertising point of view yo y'all you guys better learn Spanish in four months because that's how it's
Starting point is 02:14:23 bro that's a joke you're a comedian. He's on S&L. He's joking. He's not saying America. Adam. Start learning Spanish. Well, guess what? It's a joke. You think he's going to be singing in English or in Spanish? I think he's going to be singing all his hits were in Spanish. Okay. So guess what? So what I'm saying is, and by the, did you know the stuff that he said about ICE and stuff?
Starting point is 02:14:39 Tell me what he said. That's what I want to know. And in Puerto Rico, he was talking crap about them. He said, um, uh, there was an issue like, uh, effing ice could be outside my concert. He said, uh, strong criticism against them. He's called ICE in Puerto Rico Sons of Bitches, sorry for my language And the rest of people, most of the Dominicans on the island And so, Adam, my point being
Starting point is 02:15:02 Listen, all those words are fine, dude. People say that about Trump, people say that about Biden. But you're asking me, but you're asking me. We're leaving free speech here, don't we? But, but another angle, Adam, this is the NFL. These are the same people that have to have end racism and all this stuff. This is to me that what, of all the people that you could pick,
Starting point is 02:15:19 why bad bunny? I think this is also an FU to Donald Trump. An FU to Donald Trump. Rob, play this clip. Play this clip. That's what it is. A reaction from Chicago, one rate. No, it's not Christina.
Starting point is 02:15:31 It's actually somebody you would like to look at. And where she's talking about why she is not happy about Bad Bunny performing at the Super Bowl. Rob, if you got the clip, please go ahead and play it. And let's see what you have to say. Go ahead, Rob. So the NFL picked Bad Bunny for the 24. 2026, Super Bowl halftime show. But let me be so real.
Starting point is 02:15:56 I had never even heard of him. I thought bad by me. So she's automatically, stop, stop, stop. Okay, go ahead, sorry. Maybe some type of influencer. It turns out he is actually a trump-hating anti-ice activist who doesn't even sing in English. But look at him. We know why they picked him, right?
Starting point is 02:16:15 Here's a fact. He refused to tour America because he said ice might be outside of one of his concerts. And that's who the NFL thinks should represent America's biggest stage. Hey, NFL, do you even know your audience? Your fans love God, country, and football, not open borders and woke politics. You could have picked anyone to bring people together, but you went with someone who openly trashes conservatives and mocks the values of your core fans. This is a middle finger to every American who still believes in faith, family, and freedom.
Starting point is 02:16:49 So, congrats NFL. Well, you just turned the Super Bowl halftime show into a political protest yet again. Adam, go ahead. Well, I mean, if I'm her and I probably have her audience and beautiful girl, she's doing identity politics 101. The fact that she goes, I've never even heard of Bad Bunny, you're disqualified, sweetheart.
Starting point is 02:17:09 That's like someone saying, what? We're having a Beyonce performer. I've never even heard of this person. He's the biggest Latino artist in the world. And the fact that you don't know who that is is testament to fact that. that maybe you're living in some sort of a bubble. And I fully agree that he should not make those comments.
Starting point is 02:17:26 I fully agree that you should be pro-American. But at the same time, look at the end of the video, she sounds pretty well researched. Let me, let me... The fact that she didn't know who Bad Bunny was. Let me ask the question. She's disqualified. Let me ask the question in a different way.
Starting point is 02:17:38 Maybe let me ask the question in different way. Because she's wrong. Bad Bunny is massive. Not a little bit massive. Rob, can you just go on YouTube and type in bad bunny and go to search for views? bad money and then go to filter and go to views and look how many views his biggest hits have gotten okay zoom in a little bit 3.5 billion no zoom in a little bit rob 2.4 billion uh go to the next one
Starting point is 02:18:03 1.6 billion go to the next 1.6 billion with drake 1.4 billion go to the next 1.3 this chick's never heard of him no no no and but and luck Dylan listens to bad bunny is when he, you know, since we were in Dallas, he would listen to bad money. But this guy's everywhere. That's not the point. The point is the following. I think the NFL had an opportunity on him.
Starting point is 02:18:28 That's the main thing for me. I think the NFL had an opportunity for this year's halftime to actually speak to God, country, America, football. That's what people are saying. For me, it would have been with what just happened with Charlie Kirk. Can you imagine if the NFL, brought a country singer, okay, brought a Morgan Wallen, brought a person like that. What would have happened if we would have done that?
Starting point is 02:18:57 It would have been pretty epic. I think timing is the key to me, you know, when it comes on to who they've had in the past, Janet Jackson, Justin Timberlick, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston. A couple years ago when they had Snoop, 50 Cent. The history of hip-hop. I actually liked that one when they did history of hip-hop. And people were complaining about that one, but I like that one. But I like that one.
Starting point is 02:19:16 I like when they did that. It was actually dope. Yeah. So to me, I get her argument. I get your argument. I simply saw this as an opportunity for them to have somebody else come in, but it makes sense to me. Tom, do you have anything to say about this here? Nothing different.
Starting point is 02:19:32 I agree with you. Do you see what Chrissy Nome had to say? What? Chrissy Nome said the fact that the NFL won't be able to sleep at night over the Bad Bunny Super Bowl performance. This is just like fake outrage. Yes, sir. Right here. Is it it?
Starting point is 02:19:47 And your message to the NFL with this decision? It seems like they were trying to send a message to the Trump administration. Well, they suck and we'll win and God will bless us and we'll stand and be proud of ourselves at the end of the day and they won't be able to sleep at night because they don't know what they believe and they're so weak. We'll fix it. Thank you. Is it Benny? There's Benny. Two million subscribers, Benny.
Starting point is 02:20:14 but you know no but let me tell you like that right there to me is a um i think it's a it's that was a weak argument to see what they say they'll lose and we'll win and all this yeah exactly it's not where i'm just identity politics one-on-one look they're saying that they're going to bring ice to the super bowl because there's going to be illegal listen well because they know what the average price ticket for a super bowl is average five grand corporations come in there big brands they buy the whole place out to pretend that some random mixing guys like, Hey,
Starting point is 02:20:47 Tandu go to the Super Bowl. That's not happening, dog. It's the biggest, best, highest ticket around in the world stage, and you're acting like it's going to be some like La Migra ice situation. By the way, but they're being funny back.
Starting point is 02:21:00 They're being funny back. Zero, zero case examples of the Super Bowl bringing anybody from the right. The Morgan Wallens of the world, the Jason Aldeens, zero. Here are the last performers in the Super Bowl. You tell me if any of these people happen to be on the right.
Starting point is 02:21:14 Kendrick Lamar was last year. You have Usher, Weak, Shakira, J-Lo, Maroon 5, Justin Timberlake, Lady Gaga, Snoop, Dray, Brianna. It's all left. No, it's all left. So the fact that we're like, yeah, that actually makes complete sense based on the last 10 years of Coldplay and Beyonce. I just made. You missed the entire point I just made. What happened, Rob?
Starting point is 02:21:36 Not just, he missed the entire point. No, I heard you didn't. But it's okay. They're saying, hey, bring us a country music artist. Because that's what Red America wants right now. And the NFL is basically saying, no, we care about our money and our bottom line. And we want the most famous person in the world. Well, listen, and that's why you are Adam Sosnick.
Starting point is 02:21:56 That's true, baby. And that is why you're Adam Sosnick. I'll take it. You know, every two, three, four, one of one who Brandon whooped your ass last Wednesday when he was on. And he had 48,000 live streamers. Yeah, Brandon had it. That's right. Brandon crushed it that day.
Starting point is 02:22:12 I'm proud of Brandon. I know. I am as well. If there's anybody that's exciting, it's brilliant, and I'm proud of him. It is a, it is a Brandon, a one-on-one type of guy. I fully agree. He might be performing at the Super Bowl this year, giving a speech. The point was missed as usual.
Starting point is 02:22:27 Adam, I'm running out of time. Okay, let me see what else I got here before I wrap up. We don't have that kind of time. Okay, boom, boom, boom. Okay, this one I'm going to do, and Tom, I'm only coming to you with the story. I'll be at the bad money concert this weekend. Let's do this. Disney attendance says the 45-year-old single man who's at the clubs every weekend,
Starting point is 02:22:43 doesn't own a car, doesn't own a house, and he's bragging about he's going to be a bad money. What a freaking comment you just made right there. I let me go to this. You guys would be a church. Wow. That's accurate. It's very telling at the same time.
Starting point is 02:22:55 Disney attendance plunges to an all-time law for 2025 as visitors report ghost towns at parks. Okay, let's go through this. This is Disney, by the, what we're talking about. All right, let's go to this year. So Disney World. Okay, let me go to see here. Disney attendance. Walt Disney World blogged, its lowest three-week stretch of the year in September,
Starting point is 02:23:19 putting it on track to be the quietest months since 2021 crowd tracker data for mid-August through mid-September shows average weights dropped to about 24 minutes per ride, even shorter than during the 4th of July holiday, according to posted times from Disney, my Disney Experience app aggregated by third-party tracker, thrilled data and analyzed by Disney tourist blog. On TikTok, some visitors described the parks as ghost towns. I'm at Magic Kingdom right now, and this place is a tomb. One user said there's literally nobody here. There's no wait time for anything.
Starting point is 02:23:55 Space Mountain, walk on, hunted mansion, walk on, pirates of the Caribbean, walk on. The longest I've been able to wait is 30 minutes. Tom, what do you know about what's going on here? So there's a couple things. My wife, our family, used to have season passes in Los Angeles. We love to go to Disneyland. The girls would go down there. I mean, we had season passes because if you go twice a year,
Starting point is 02:24:15 it's worth it for the season pass versus paying for everything all at once. And in Southern California, you got California Adventure in its rides right across from Disneyland. Parking the same parking lot. You know, go down there for a whole day. And so I know what I'm talking about here. What is happening several angles. First, they need to understand what they have done. with pricing. The pricing and the parking has had a definite impact on people. So the first
Starting point is 02:24:49 point is affordability is real. The second is long-term, not boycott, but preferences changed. Disney can't continue to kick its core customer in the face with the kind of content it puts out with the kind of things that come out. Both my daughters thought that that actress, weird Rachel Zegler. Weird, weird. To the attacking the traditional story
Starting point is 02:25:18 for Snow White, right? As she was in, there has been long-term impact that they have had on the viewership and the preference of the customer. It's not just, hey, boycott Bud Light this weekend because you're pissed off about Dillamovini
Starting point is 02:25:34 in that can, right? No. This is a long-term preference change that people are making and the expense of it. And also, you know, middle-class America right now has had a long-term impact of inflation. It's tough to swing a holiday like that. And if you look at all of that coming together, it's over time Disney has strangled itself. And now words talk, no, no, no, no, no, everything's okay, but the numbers are screaming. Look at this. I mean, and it's a combination of those things, Pat, and I speak from absolute experience, speaking both as a consumer and my wife.
Starting point is 02:26:12 Tom, have they made the adjustment of Lauren prices? I was just going to ask that, too. Are they adjusting at all? Have they made the adjustment, Rob, of Lauren Price? In the state of Florida, they do offer Florida passes for Florida residents at a discounted price, but nothing for people out of state that I'm aware of. Okay, so what is the worst season? What is the worst season for Disney World every year? Like, what month is the worst month for Disney?
Starting point is 02:26:35 Well, usually, usually... I would assume going back to school September. But usually back to school, but also my understanding is that when Florida gets blistering hot in August, it's really hard to do a whole day at Disneyland. And I've been up there in August. It's pretty... It's not Disneyland, but it's pretty embarrassing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:57 Okay, so I just ask here, what is the worst? It says mid-January to mid-February after the holiday rush, Crowds drop sharply. Okay, I see that. Late August through mid-September, school is back in session, hurricane season starts, heat humidity is brutal. So just now. So we just now, right, exactly. So what is, in the last, in the last 10 years, what is the worst month Disney world has had outside of COVID season? Okay, let's see what it says. And as you look at this, Pat, you and I like to look at sales stats, like year over year. So even if it's a tough time a year, year over year, they're having challenges.
Starting point is 02:27:42 Yeah, is there, is there, by the way, can you, can you, I don't know how to run this poll that. I guess what I'd want to know is people who used to go who no longer go. Like, I don't go to Disney, not because of any of the stuff with it. I'm not going to go there and having a bunch of transgender people walking around. We went to Universal. And I'm all about going to Universal. I love the Universal in L.A. when we go to it. Believe it or not, as weird as it sounds,
Starting point is 02:28:05 when we went to Universal L.A., there was no transgender stuff. When we went to Universal in Florida, it was a bunch of transgender part. I was with you, and it wasn't just a random dude. So before everybody jumps in the comments, it was not a random guy doing it. It's 20 of them.
Starting point is 02:28:20 They had park attendants, and just same way that when there's an attendant around Winnie the Pooh, when he walks around, because you're not supposed to touch them, you're not supposed to, like, you know, you're not supposed to interact physically. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not supposed to do it. So they have park attendants that are with them.
Starting point is 02:28:34 Excuse me, please step back. Yeah, like a bodyguard. And so Mickey Mouse leans down, takes a picture, puts a little arm around your kid, so there's things he can and can't do. This was a trans demonstration with park attendance. It was part of the experience. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:48 I don't know. I don't know what's going on there. Anyways, gang. All right. So it is 1131. We're going to wrap up. We're going to do this again on Rob. Do we have a Wednesday?
Starting point is 02:28:57 We may have a special guest tomorrow, right? If I'm not mistaken. Working on it, trying to confirm. Okay. Is that the research that we're doing this afternoon? Yes, but that won't go out until Thursday. That won't go out until Thursday. Okay, so we'll stay tuned, folks.
Starting point is 02:29:09 Either way, it could be a interesting interview that's coming up this week. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

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