PBD Podcast - Jedediah Bila | PBD Podcast | EP 115

Episode Date: January 14, 2022

In this episode, they talk about: Jedidiah Bila's Background, Sarah Palin, Jedidiah Bila On Her Time At The View, Spain & Europe Changing Definition of Covid, Why Bernie And AOC Are Necessary Today, Why Spotify Is The Biggest Enemy To Silicon Valley and The Power of Capitalism And Free Markets Learn more about Jedediah here: https://bit.ly/3tmAsCD Get all official Valuetainment merch here: https://vtmerch.com About the host: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of a financial services firm and the creator of Valuetainment, the #1 YouTube channel for entrepreneurship with more than 3 million subscribers. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a keynote speaker. Bet-David is passionate about shaping the next generation of leaders by teaching the fundamentals of entrepreneurship and personal development while inspiring people to break free from limiting beliefs to achieve their dreams.  Follow the guests in this episode: Jedediah Bila: https://bit.ly/3Gje8xg To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail]   Want Patrick on your podcast? - http://bit.ly/329MMGB --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

today's gets is jettadayah bella for the conservative co-host of uh... the view which is a tough place to be and to be conservative she's been all over all of our fox author uh... new website coming up bella dot locals dot com and she has a tendency of ruffling feathers she likes to push the envelope so tell us is that genetics is that you have you always been this way well i'm italian so you know that comes with the turf but i you know i think pushing the envelope today means that you're always been this way? Well, I'm Italian. So, you know, that comes with the turf. But, you know, I think pushing the envelope today

means that you're just being honest with people. So, I don't, you know, I don't tell a line for politicians. I don't tell a line for a political party. I really tell you what I think I am a conservative and I think I'm getting increasingly conservative as the days pass to be perfectly honest. Libertarian conservative. I hate these labels.

It's like they don't mean anything. I'd rather just tell you what I think. But I'm not someone who's going to get a hundred percent behind a politician and decide whoever this politician is, I'm going to support everything they say because I, you know, bow down to them and I don't play that game. So I think what you get is honesty and that makes people mad sometimes and that's perfectly fine with me. I'd rather give them the truth and have them be mad than lie to them and have them love me. So yeah, what's crazy is that that's the ideal person to be on the view, right? Somebody like you, they like the other day I saw the article of the fact that they're having a

hard time finding somebody to, you know, replace a conservative co-host, but this person, the demos of this person has to be somebody that doesn't like Trump, believes January 6 was an insurrection, they have to be pro-vax, they have to be somebody, not pro-vax, they have to be somebody that's vaccinated, they have to be somebody that is supporting Bill, that it's like so many different things to say, this is what we're looking for, why don't you just go out there and say, you're looking for a fifth Democrat to be there, right?

Yeah, what they're actually looking for, in my opinion, is a conservative, and I have my little quotation marks, that fits a liberal's definition of what an acceptable conservative is. So they want to be able to say, well, we want someone who is gonna go out there and we can say we have a conservative on the panel.

We can use that word, but they're gonna agree with us most of the time, and when they disagree, they're gonna do it quietly. They're not gonna ruffle feathers and we're still gonna get to be right. I believe that's called a unicorn. I don't know if those people even exist. Yeah, and I was talking to them. Again, I had worked there for about a year and a half, a full year of contract and about a half a year of testing before that. And I was supposed to go on this year to co-host again as you know Megan left the show. I was supposed to go on this year to co-host again, as you know, Megan left the show. I was supposed to go on October, and then I was all set to go.

They came to my house. They accepted my medical exemption for the vaccine. They had someone come to my house. They COVID tested me. I tested negative. I got a call the next day. Oh, the policy has changed. You have to be vaccinated.

I said, well, I can't do it. I'm sorry. Like, I'm not going to do it. I had COVID already. I have documented immunity going on 20, you know, 19 months at the time. Now, I can't do it. I'm sorry. I'm not going to do it. I had COVID already. I have documented immunity going on 19 months at the time. Now it's more than that. And I have an exemption from my doctor who's saying,

this is not right for me. So they said, you know what? Let's see what happens in November. I was supposed to go back and do the book. And November rolled around and they said, we're sorry. We can't have you. So the executive producer over there, who's very nice, who I like, Brian, he's a generally good guy,

as far as I know, he's been nice to me. So we're gonna take it remote. So I did a full pre-interview with him. Full pre-interview where I talked about the mandates, I talked about how I felt about it. They wanted me to have that conversation. They pre-pued, did they say we're gonna ask you? Yes, 100%.

So you knew that was gonna be out. 100% because you said let's get the elephant out of you. Yes, they said no, they said where do you stand? They knew where I stood because I had been very vocal about not only the fact that I wasn't back. All over Twitter was me saying these mandates are not scientific. You cannot justify them. Here's why.

So they knew where I stood. We did a full pre-interview. I get on the show, I opened my mouth for two seconds and they say, oh. Here's why. So the new where I stood, we did a full pre-interview. I get on the show. I opened my mouth for two seconds. And they say, oh, that's misinformation, which it wasn't. What I actually said on air was actually fact, which we now know, because we're seeing it unfold in the country, exactly what I said, which was, and frankly,

to cite the CDC. We can get into what I said. But I think my point is, they want, and this happens all the time in liberal media. They hire a conservative, supposed conservative, and then you listen and you're like, that's not a conservative, that's a liberal, or that's someone who's just going to be what you want them to be. That's not me.

In case you haven't noticed in the brief amount of time I'm here, I'm not malleable like that. But I don't think that's good TV though. I don't think it's good TV to not be you or to not be making like I thought both of you were good fit. I thought it was, you know, that, that, you know, going back and forth is what makes good TV and that's what makes the audience to sit there and say, I agree with her. I don't agree with her. I agree with what she has to say. She's wrong. So I don't know if it's good TV. I'm trying to see what the strategy really is.

And I wonder if it helps with viewership long-term. Because if it does, then you gotta do what the viewership's working. And are there only five women on the show? Is that the number? Yes. And why wouldn't they, you know, because it's four liberals, one,

and so why wouldn't it be three and two? You ever thought about that? Like why wouldn't it be you and Megan's like the Supreme Court? They weren't much worse. Yeah, what's the story with that? Why wouldn't it be you and Megan's like the Supreme Court? They weren't much worse. Yeah, what's the story with that? What it should really be is five women who see things differently as much as possible.

So you could have a moderate Republican on there. You could then have a real conservative. I'm a rancher. I'm a conservative. Have a Trump supporter on. Have a mix. I know. So that people who have different ways of life, have someone on there who has a bunch of

kids, someone on there who's single and doesn't want to get married. You know, I think if it's about the view, you know, it's called the view. Maybe it is the view as in one, you know, but if you're really looking to get perspectives out there of different people around the country, then that's not what's happening, you know. And it is, listen, I don't know. I don't know if some of it has to do with pleasing advertisers. I had many conversations throughout this past year because I wasn't going to get the vaccine. I heard from a lot of liberal, um, liberals in production that were saying, you know, you could make the argument about the mandate. But if you were vaccinated, it would be easier because then you're like in the club. Mm-hmm. And I said, well, what club is it exactly?

I mean, like, why? And honestly, there's a bunch of people around the country who opted not to get it for medical reasons for other reasons. So why is that viewpoint not valid to have that person represented, especially because we know the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting or spreading the disease. So it's completely absurd that you need it.

Mother, what you're saying is a view. That's what CDC is saying. That's not what you're saying. CDC even came out and said, even the vaccine, even if you have it. So it's not like your opinion or something. Well, that's what was labeled misinformation, though. I mean, I was shut down on national television for just simply saying the CDC has said that if you're vaccinated, you can also get and spread

COVID. I mean, you don't have to be paying attention to the CDC to know that. Just look around. Yeah. Everyone I know right now who has COVID is vaxed. That's not to say that unvaccinated people didn't get COVID all through last year. That's not to say that unvaccinated people didn't get COVID all through last year. Of course they did. But that shouldn't be, you know, it's active discrimination against people, you know, and why are you not honoring medical exemptions

and why are you not accepting the reality that everyone has an individual medical history with a past with certain, you know, reactions they've had to X, Y, and Z. So, you know, these are political talking points that are being found out. But the argument to that to your point is that if you are vaxed and you do get COVID,

which I agree with you, you were down in Miami, I was down in Miami for art basil, everyone I know got COVID, literally everybody, like boom, COVID bomb, Vax, non-vaxx, whatever. Correct. But the argument to that would be, if you are vaxed, it'll be less severe. It'll keep you are vaxed, it'll be less severe. It'll keep you out of the hospital.

It'll keep the hospital from going over capacity. What are your thoughts on this? So that doesn't justify a mandate though, because if you're gonna do that, talk to me about obesity, talk to me about smokers, talk to me about people who drink too much, talk to me about people who don't exercise. There were a whole bunch of lifestyle reasons

that caused people to go into the hospital and burn in the hospital system. I'm a healthy person. I exercise a lot. I'm very careful about what I eat. I had COVID. I was okay. I haven't gotten it again. I've been exposed. Nothing has happened. I'm not a threat. Like to assume that I am an immediate threat is absurd. And I think if you're going to justify, if you're going to utilize, say,'re going to utilize, you know, say, well, we need to justify this mandate based on transmission, you lose. If you're going to say we need to justify this mandate based on what's happening in hospitals, well, then

you have a whole host of other issues that you better be looking at as well, because then your whole population essentially in this country is going to be affected in some way, because I'm going to get to say really, well, I don't tax the hospital system, but somebody who's obese taxes the hospital system or so, what are you doing about them? Where does it end? And I think those stats on hospitalization and death, I think also, listen, that yes, there are some stats

that show that that is absolutely true. You have some stats coming out of other places, like the UK, that show things a little bit differently in some studies. I think there are people that have benefited from the vaccine. I think there are people that got the vaccine, and maybe they didn't get COVID, or they got a milder case of COVID, but they got other stuff. I know a lot of people who have had some in my family, some of my friends who have had

horrible side effects of this vaccine. Horrible. Truly, everything from myocarditis to blood clots, this is just a reality. This is a reality. It's a drug. Any drug has a list of side effects that are potential. Any drug. So.

By the way, again, YouTube, if you're listening, Fauci has said that himself. In an interview, Fauci said, anytime we introduce a new vaccine, they come with side effects. And we make it better as we test it. So this is not a claim. This is what Fauci has said. But so.

Antibiotics too. I mean, this is not new. This is not new. Ant said. But, so, so- Antibiotics too. I mean, this is not new. This is not new. Antibiotics. You can go, I can go to the drug store and take a suit of fed and get deathly ill from it. So- Suit of fed?

Yes. I mean, I've taken, listen, my mom and I, it was interesting. We both had a sinus infection a few years ago. I remember we both took the same medication. I got horribly sick. I was hallucinating. She was fine. So, you're not in the same body as someone else So all I'm saying is which should not be controversial to anyone make your own decision talk to your doctor

Talk to your family talk to yourself Make your own decision if that's controversial in the United States in 2022. I don't I don't know what to say I think what Adam's curious is the suit of it that you were hallucinating. He wants to Want some of that. I like to have the suit of it that you're have You stopped you were like wait hold on a second because I actually you make a note when I suit a bit the joke of suit of fed is I used to do stand-up comedy my dad thought

suit of fed was like a wonder drug oh you broke your arm thanks some suit of fed not a big day like headache takes some suit of fed oh you got a Zood of fed so not that I bet but my question to you sorry is is this your new fight? Meaning before COVID, you didn't talk about vaccines. I doubt that this was something that was on your radar or was it, but is this your line

in the sand? Like this is what I stand for now. Yeah, I mean, I think my fight has always been freedom. You know, I came into this business battling the GOP establishment. Really, I was battling Republicans. My issue was debt. My issue was like, why don't they care about the debt? Specifically Republicans are just politicians.

Well, I was mad because Republicans claimed to care about this. The fiscal conservative. Right. A lot of Republicans were claiming to care about those things and weren't doing anything about it. And I saw the rise of the Tea Party movement and I know they've been vilified, but I went to a lot of those rallies and a lot of it consisted of regular people who were tired of all of this nonsense. So I think freedom has always been an issue that I held that I'm willing to die and I have never seen anything like this unfold in the United States of America.

I saw what happened. I mean, I come from New York City. You can't go into a restaurant without showing a Vax card. This is the United States. So I have a two-year-old and I look at him and I'm like, you're not doing this to my kid. Like I will get out of here. I will take my money, not that it's a lot,

but I will take my money. I will take what I do for a living. I will get out of here and let these cities that are doing this to people. Let them sink. Let them figure out that you can't act this way. So, this is my hill to die on, not because it's, you know, I'm not someone

who's like, I'm an anti-vaxxer. You know, that's not my position. My position is, how are we now in a place in this country where someone can't make that decision for themselves and these pharmaceutical companies that have liability protection? Why can't you ask about that? Why can't you ask questions and just say,

hey, why is that the case? Or what are the side effects? Or gee, you know, my risk assessment for me is not the same as the risk assessment for a 90 year old with four comorbidities. These are not questions. These are questions you're getting censored for. Okay, we're in trouble. Are your parents back? Let me ask you a background.

So before Fox and View, what were you doing? I was teaching. Really? I was a teacher. I taught Spanish actually in schools for six or seven years. It's hard to remember. I'm happy. But in New York City, in Staten Island, and in Manhattan, I was an academic dean, high school dean. And interestingly, went through six flu seasons and never a mask was mentioned, even though the flu

is more dangerous to kids than COVID, but that's a side note. But yeah, I taught in these schools, so when we talk about woke curriculums and all of that, oh yeah, that's real, that's happening. Who were you in high school? If we were in high school to get a 10th grade who's Jetta Daya? A nerd Okay, like four points something GPA valedictorian type of the old I was the valedictorian of my college

Where you roll? Yeah, yeah, I went to Wagner College on satin island. I got four point out I literally I just worked I was I was a I was a bookworm. So I read a lot I was social too. I had a lot of friends. I don't know if the definition of a nerd, like what you're thinking of, I wasn't, you know, Ronald Miller in Campime Love. Do you guys know that movie? It's amazing, by the way. I had a crush on him for the longest time. I love nerds. You're dating yourself here. I love nerds, though, like actual nerds. But why did you break out of your show? Because clearly you're not a nerd, for clearly you're a vocal, clearly you got a lot going on.

So college I kind of discovered, you know, that I had a little bit more had a little bit more of a voice, started dating, I started living. Still was very academic though. At the time I thought I was going to get a PhD in Spanish literature. I was like, I want to be a professor. I love college campuses. This is where I'm going to go. Went to Columbia, got my masters, and was like, I was wrong.

Columbia. So at that time, were you liberal? Were you politically conservative? I was a conservative. So your parents, are they conservatives? You were, were you politically? I was a conservative. So your parents are they conservatives? So yes, my dad is very conservative. He's like a Ted Cruz kind of guy. Absolutely. My mom is a little bit more of a mixed bag. I think you, you know, I think she's more of like

a Marco Rubio voter if I had to peg her as one. But yeah, my family was very eclectic though. My grandparents were Democrats, a lot of family friends that we had in our house as family, aunts that weren't really aunts, but were close friends with my mom and whatnot. Most of them were liberal, and I grew up in New York City. So I was surrounded by liberalism. It just didn't make sense to me.

So yeah, I went to Columbia for a Masters in Spanish literature and decided it wasn't for me that I loved Literature, but I went in and worked for an insurance company for a while I do nothing about it. It's terrible. I mean really Zurich, Zurich, Zurich. I was with Zurich, but I did marketing for them. I got you, but I mean I used to sell Zurich So I remember Zurich. Yeah, I'm not good at that stuff. Like if you're going to ask me about inflation, I have another guest on. You're not good. I feel like you could be good at anything you do. So what weren't you good at?

I'm not. I just don't have that kind of head. I'm more of a creative, you know. I'm a creative type. You know, I want to sit in right short stories all day long. And essentially what happened was I worked in a show, I waited tables, I, you know, which was one of the most fun jobs I ever had in my life. And I made a lot of cash, so. But tough on your feet, tough on, I grew some good guns, though, that I've capped from the,

you know. You can't really see them in here. You can't see it through the, yeah, there it is. I mean, I'm just, you know, take my phone. But floated around for a little while, went to LA, thought I might want to do some acting, chickened out, was a big chicken about that. Shouldn't have been, wish I had stayed, came back. What was she with a state?

Wish I would have stayed. Why? Because it's typically the other way around. Wish you would have stayed. No, acting was something I loved. I grew up in a house where my mom taught acting classes to kids and out of my living room, when I was really little, she taught improvisation,

and I loved it. I genuinely loved it. I write about this in my book, Dear Heartly, a little bit trying to encourage my kid to, like, if you love something, go for it. Don't be a coward like me. But it was hard. And I was in LA.

I was with a friend. And I just didn't have the right head. And I didn't give it my best shot. And I think if I would have stayed, I would have had at least a chance. Either I would have had a chance at success, or I would have been able to say I gave it my all, which is always what you want out of life.

And you want your kids to know that too. So Pat asked you who you were in high school, 10th grade. So you kind of, you brought up the can, like, so were you a Melrose Place girl, 902? 902, you know? Okay, yeah, I saw something with Luke Perry rolled up on you, with recipes. I loved him so much. Yes, 902, I loved him so much. Yes, and I know, two and a half, 100% all the way.

I was a Brent Adil and a fan. Loved him, got to meet him at the view years later. Oh my gosh, he was like, your husband was in the crowd. He was looking a little curious. My husband was a little, a little jealous. So I wasn't married at the time. Yeah, and you were having second thoughts at that point.

And my mom said to me that my now husband looked at her and said, should I go up there? And she was like, Jeremy, it's live television. Like, what are you going to do up there? We're just going to knock out Dylan McKay. Because I was like, I was very back in high school. You were a good guy, yeah, yeah, I'm so obvious. But yeah, I was 10th grade, I was also ran track.

I was, you know, I was social, but I'm not social now. This is the most social I get. What's happening right now? When you were, where you feisty, like, were you like. But, you know, Jedadai, were you feisty? Like were you like a, were you part of the VAT team, were you part of like all of that or not really? I was quite, when I was really small, I'd never spoke.

In fact, my first grade teacher called my mom, I was like, is she okay? And she's really smart, but she doesn't speak. I was very shy and very afraid of all of that. By the time I got to high school, I had a teacher, a politics teacher who I later found out was like a super liberal, but really encouraged us to speak out.

And I kind of got my voice in that class. And in college, kind of shifted away, did more of a literary journey. But I think that was where I kind of got my fire. And years later, after I did the acting, came back to New York, taught for a little while, the whole political career started, because I was writing on a blog that had like five viewers.

I'm not kidding. At one point, it was like five people had seen my article. And one of the articles was reviewing Mark Levin's book. And my friend sent it to him, and he read it on air. And a couple of months later, like Sean Hannity's people called me and were like, does she want to come on the panel? And my mom fainted because my mom loves him to this day.

Hannity. And there I was, this school teacher who didn't have a journalism degree who was a regular girl just speaking my mind, sitting on a panel and two weeks later, filling in for Dana Perino in a segment with Stuart Varney. And I was like, I'm not really sure how I think there was just a hunger for a regular voice at that time. Well if Ron Paul said the best thing, Ron Paul said when he was doing what he was doing

full-time as a doctor, he started going and hearing an economist speak. He says when I left every time he recommended a book, I'd go back and read the book, I'd go back and read it, and I got obsessed. He says, I kept going back every time he was given a speech. He said, eventually, I went up to the God. So listen, I can't help myself. I'm addicted to this content. This just makes a lot of sense, liberty, freedom, all this stuff. He said, this was never things I thought about. He says, what do I do with this passion? He says, don't worry about it. He says, keep talking about it, keep writing about it, the right people will find you. People found you.

So it was Fox found you first because the Mark Levin and then the view came in. How did you, how did you approach it? So Fox found me first and I wound up doing a lot of free television, which is what happens in TV. Everyone sees that you're on TV and they're like, oh, you're a celebrity. You're broke.

I was broke. I had been on a teacher's salary before that. I don't come from money. I grew up in a very middle class family. My parents struggled to pay the mortgage. I didn't have that. I didn't have any connections to the political world. My parents weren't in politics.

So I did a lot of free TV. And then I got my first contributor deal over at Fox after maybe a couple of years of doing free television. I did not only free TV at Fox. I was doing, you know, CMBC. I was doing with Larry Cudlow at the time. I was doing MSNBC hits. Cudlow, I mean, that's serious,

perpetual conversations right there. I mean, yes, but not mine. Mine were more like culture would do a panel, or but I would find myself in these places and be like, wow, I'm building a career but broke. Nobody knows this, maybe I should have told everyone, hey, make a donation. Thank you to you, make a girl.

Exactly, exactly. And I got my first contributor deal for it. It's a contributor with small. I mean, it's not money that you're making, but from there I was due, I signed two deals with Fox that were for a contributor and then the view came and it's funny, I went to Roger Ells at the time and I said, you know, the view wants me to come on

and guest host and he typically Fox doesn't let you do any of that stuff, but he was like, well, I think it'll be really good for the network, extra exposure and you're not gonna get the job. And it's just, yeah. Because I was so new, I was so green. And I was like, okay, you know, I knew I had a shot.

But did you take that as a challenge? Or was it just kind of like, are you like, I'm gonna crush this one show when I get on? They're gonna know I belong here. Well, once he gave me and writing the approval, I was like, wait till he sees what I tell him. Did he become your, Pat talks about find your enemy to get motivated, right?

Did that become your enemy proving Roger Ails, the legendary great, you know, controversial, is that your enemy? Well,ils, the legendary great controversial rock? Is that your enemy? Well, I think it was, he had launched this huge television network. And for a while, I had been a contributor, but I wanted to fill in on shows. I wanted to host.

And he was always like, you know, you have to earn your place to do that. And here comes this network TV show that's like, we'll give her a chance. And he was like, oh, you know, almost like, she's too green. And I went, I got the job. So, I love it. I love it.

When people are underestimated. So when you go at what point did they just tell you right there, listen, we want to talk now. So I had to test there too, which I was fine to do because I was employed. I had my Fox contract. And I would show the view. I did a few months of testing with a bunch of people

that were testing. I remember like Melissa people that were testing. I remember Melissa Joan Hart was testing. It was like a lot of celebrity at the time. Yeah. What are you asking, I'm curious, like when they're sending their delivery in you, what can, do they ask you like,

so what do you think about this? What do you think of that kind of a conversation? So I did an interview first with Candy Carter who I really like. She's still at ABC. She's a nice, she's really nice, fun. And she asked me a zillion questions. Like, how do you feel about this?

And how do you feel about that? And they wanted, you know, the claim was that they wanted diversity of thought on the panel. And they wanted someone who was going to be tough to stand up to the other opinions. So it was a very long interview. And I left and I was like, I don't know what happened. Like, I don't know.

And then she was like, all right, we're going to put you on. So they put me on, oh, it was long. It was like, I feel like I left and I was like, I don't know what happened. Like, I don't know. And then she was like, all right, we're going to put you on. So they put me on, oh, it was long. It was like, I feel like I was in there for like a couple of hours, honestly. Okay. It was long. And as you said, it's a panel or it's just candy. Well, it was just me and candy for the interview. Got it.

And then, I think I met with candy. I think I met with Brian. I met with a few people and they were like, okay, green light her. Let's put her on and see what she does. So I was this girl who had just a couple of years before that, been writing for a while, but like, five. What was the timeline? By the time Lavin brought you on, you're on Hannity.

Couple of years. Okay, so you put in some more. But you gotta realize, couple of years not a long time. Yeah, people have to, this is very important for people that are listening to this. Look, you know, whatever situation you're in with your life, like sometimes people like the part she talked about, she did so much free TV, you know, that's the part a lot of people don't want to do. You're going to have to work and get underpaid for a long time until you get

your break. And she got a break. It's a beautiful story. That's exactly how capitalism works. That's exactly how your world works. That's how business works. You know, you pay the price and then they find you and it goes back to Ron Paul's story. If you keep talking about what you believe in, they're eventually going to find you. You said Tea Party or do you? Was it like the home Michelle Bachman era? That era?

I wasn't a huge Bachman fan. I came in, you'll hate this probably. I could just tell. I just can read people. Because I know, no, I guarantee it. But I came in being like a Sarah Palin fan. And the reason I was a Sarah fan, now I know it but I came in being like a Sarah Palin fan and the reason I was a Sarah fan now I know Sarah so I know a little bit about her. No I just see I see you as someone who probably

I don't think she'd be your first choice let's just say that. And you know what not only me 99% of America. Yeah but you know there's a reason for that because you've been told what you've been told about Sarah Palin and most of it's not true but regardless I got interested in Sarah Palin and most of it's not true. But regardless, I got interested in Sarah Palin. I'll tell you why because first of all, she just kind of showed up at a nowhere. But I saw that McCain plucked her out of nowhere because she can see her ocean from her house. I wasn't, she never said that. I wasn't, I wasn't a McCain fan. Look at us having the view. There's no doubt.

There's no reason for that, but not that way anyway. But yeah, I wasn't a McCain fan, but I was like, who's this woman? And the only reason she was interesting to me was because media couldn't stand her from second one. And I saw the take down and I said, OK, let me figure out. Maybe she's terrible. So I did a bunch of research on her work in Alaska

as mayor and as governor. And I was like, OK, she's actually quite legit. And this is why they hate her And she's also very personable and so I became kind of interested in what she brought to the table And she also was a soccer mom. She felt like a regular person to me Which I really liked because I was a regular person in a business where everyone felt like you needed some Degree. I don't have a journalism degree. Thankfully, I didn't waste my time doing that But so Columbia was in journalism Columbia was a Spanish literature. That, I didn't waste my time doing that. But... So Columbia wasn't journalism.

Columbia was the Spanish literature. Spanish literature. That's why you taught that for many years. Yeah, I was. After you met, you know how sometimes you're like, oh my gosh, she's so amazing. And an after you meet Sarah. What you read and what you saw the same as the time

you spent with Sarah? Sarah's just a regular person. She's just a mom. She is a well-intentioned political figure. She makes mistakes. She's not always the most articulate in expressing her ideas all the time. As neither am I, neither there is anyone else. It's hard to be in the spotlight sometimes. She has a great record in Alaska. I know they destroyed her when she went back. A lot of op-op research. I mean, the media landed in Alaska. They were like, we're going to land there and we're going to

figure out what's wrong with her. They were reading her emails line by line by line, which is interesting. They had no interest in Hillary Clinton's emails, but where she lied repeatedly. But- Can you imagine like, you're being told, you're gonna be working out of Alaska.

Here's where you go. That's your job. Well, Silla, Alaska. My question to you on Puyin is, I actually completely understand why regular girls, sucker mom, totally get that. As far as vice president of the United States, do you think she was a little over her head?

A little over her head? No, I think she had a really horrible team around her. That didn't really support her, and I don't think she really understood, I think she understood establishment politics in Alaska. She's a governor of Alaska. Yeah, and she was like, a little small city mayor, Pete Buttigieg, you know, South Bend, Indiana. That's true. And people to judge has been glorified for that

limited record that he has that he's done. He did think a lot of potholes. So let's have a little respect. There you go. Took two months off. That was interesting though. Because think about the way those two people were viewed. One was glorified and covers of magazines and one was like, oh, she's not up to the job. She knew a lot about the establishment in Alaska because she was dealing with the Mercowskis and all that, but I don't know that she was prepared for the national stage and what that was gonna look like.

And then you think that was her team or the McCain platform? I think it was the McCain team. No, I knew her team, I was able to do it and all of them, but no, she, yeah. But regardless, whether you love her or hate her, I mean, she was demonized from date, the woman didn't have a chance. That's true, but just think about anybody

that's announced as a VP. Go any, go, go and go think about what VP people were like oh my gosh This is fantastic. I even pence when they said pence. Did you know pence? No, did you know who? He was. Did you sit there say that's the right selection? Nobody's first pick was pence nobody second pick was pence So McCain, you know, like the whole conversation with Giuliani So McCain, you know, like the whole conversation with Giuliani. What Giuliani ran on in first time he ran for president? If he would have ran on that, and that was today, Giuliani's a president, if may your Giuliani ran.

So sometimes it's also timing. When you're the first person that's going to come out as you're the VP or a woman you're going out there, chances are you're probably sitting to tone for the next person that's going to go out there and win. It's not you. Like, you know, how you think about Friendster Facebook before Facebook was what? My space before my space was Friendster. What happened to

Friendster? Are you still on Friendster? Yeah. I send you Friendster. I haven't gotten it yet. What do you mean? I'm messing you all that might be a different Patrick. Patrick, that's a day. That's a day. That's a day. Patrick. Yeah, by the way, you know, you, so, so when you did get hired with the view, yeah, is it a contract of, do they pay into format of one episode? Is it a six-month contract?

Is it a three-month contract? What's the contract? So I'm trying to remember my contract. I basically had a three-year contract, but at the end of each year they had the opportunity, they had to renew me. Got it. So, and you had a guarantee of a certain number of appearances.

I wasn't employed at ABC at large. I was employed by the view. Me personally, Megan may have had a different deal. How different is that? Is that separate? Yeah, because if you're in, it's actually much safer to be employed by ABC at large because then if something goes wrong with the view, you can view it a lot. That makes sense.

It's a larger corporate issue. I didn't fight for that because at the time, frankly, I don't think I had the credentials to fight for that. And secondly, I wasn't sure how it was going to go. And I wasn't sure what was going to happen. So I was comfortable with the contract they gave me and rolling in and. Was it decent pay?

Was it? Yes. OK, should have paid was decent. It was a raise, which was great. I was like, hey! It was a story of good. It was a great. Are you still in touch with any of the ladies on the view?

Whether it's the conservatives, the Abby Hunsmans, the McCain's, the Joy Behar's, the whoopies? I was until this appearance that just happened. I mean, I actually maintained a pretty decent friendship with Sunny, with Sarah. Occasionally, it would exchange with whoopie and Joy. My time on the show was actually, okay, because even though we duked it out sometimes on air,

we actually really got along behind the scenes as a group. It was a cast that really liked each other. So I left, and even though I was fired inexplicably overnight, I didn't hold that against the cast, and there were people that worked there at the time that aren't there anymore That were responsible for that But I left kind of feeling like these were still my friends and my family and I was sad

So I didn't trash them in media. I didn't do any of that and it wasn't really until this last appearance that I just felt like wow That was pretty horrible what happened on air because you guys knew what I was gonna say. And I really thought I was there to have a conversation because I know them, you know, something that I'm wedding, you know, I know these people. And I said, if you're gonna invite me and you know what I'm gonna say, either say, forget it, you're not coming on, or let me talk, let's have the conversation.

This is the biggest advertiser for the view. Do you know, like, I don't know, but I know, you know, big farmers in all these places, of course. Sorry, but can you Google and see who's the biggest advertiser on the view? I looked it up in 2015, a bunch of advertisers dropped, but that's not the article I'm looking for. I want as recent as possible. Let me go back to it. From the day you got fired, how many days prior to that was when you questioned Hillary Clinton? Oh, I think it was four. I think I questioned her on a Thursday and lost my job on a Sunday. Oh, I didn't know that. So it's four days after you questioned Hillary Clinton.

So what happened there was, and I've spoken about this with, you know, Sunny recently, that we were like, no one really understood what happened there. And I don't know if it's attributed to the Hillary Clinton interview. I really don't, I have no idea what year was it? 20s was it 16 17.

It's right around there. She was right when I was reading my one hand. Was it in her after she lost? No, no, she was. It was after she lost after she lost. She wrote a book called What Happened? It was the first live appearance she did on the view and she asked the question.

Oh, yeah, that's right. I saw that. Yeah, I asked the question. I had, I's right, I saw that. Which was a point in question. I had just reupped that summer. You had to, like I said, they had to renew you, even though you had a three-year contract, they had to renew you. So I signed the paperwork.

I was like, OK, I guess I'm in for another year. And that's the way I view this business. You never know. You could be out tomorrow. So I was like, OK, in for another year, I asked what I thought was a pretty benign question. I asked her, I said, listen, you know, you're saying, you're acting like you're surprised that Trump won, but it sounds a little tone deaf to me because I was talking to people

around the country who were disgusted with a lot of what was going on, like looking back. Do you see that maybe these people voted because they didn't like what was happening in the prior administration? I thought that was a pretty fair question. Her face said otherwise. I didn't even get to ask about our emails, which was really what I, there was a little bit of panic at the show that day because I was like, well, can we show here that she signed a piece of paper that said she knows what these classifications mean? And she's denied that she knew them, but her signature. And they were like, I wouldn't do that.

I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. There was a little bit of worry that it was going to be combative. But don't they like that? Is that the whole point of the view? No, I don't. No, I think the perception is that, but actually, I think there's a lot of protection that goes on on shows like that for political figures, for point of views. So I didn't get to that, but I asked the tone- question, and then four days later I actually got a call from someone who

worked in media. I think I think it was all our Darcy actually. If I'm not mistaken who wrote who called me and was like, there's a rumor that like Megan McCain's taking your job and I was like, oh, well that can't be. I just reached I was like what? And I wrote my producer and he was like, oh we'll get on it. PR. I don't even think the EP of the show knew. No one knew. The EP of the show. So this came from the high rock.

This came from Super high. This is not EP. No. And my EP's like, Candy and Brian were like, really quite nice to me. And we're like, listen, I don't know. And I believed them. And I still believed them because I really do.

So I don't know what happened. I don't know if it's related to that. I don't know if that was the icing on the cake So I don't know what happened. I don't know if it's related to that. I don't know if that was the icing on the cake. I don't know if there were talks going on. And then suddenly someone decided, oh, great. And also that interview didn't help. I don't really know.

It was the timing seemed so odd. So when did you sign the next year? Is it a summer? Summer. How many weeks or months before the Hillary Clinton? It was in August, I don't remember. It was several weeks before that. Oh, so this is fresh.

So you signed. It's not like it's six months. No, no, no. It was several weeks. Got it. So they had already committed to having you on for another year. So it wasn't like behind closed doors that we're talking to Megan on. Oh, listen, maybe.

Okay. Before I know, I mean, there are people that have since been fired from there that were doing pretty horrible things that's come out in the news, who I think probably were being underhanded about it in many ways. I don't know what conversations were and weren't going on. I just, it kind of changed my perception of media because I always felt like a contract was a contract. And all of a sudden, I realized, which

was helpful for the future, like, OK, you're here today, you could be gone tomorrow. So just keep that in mind. Some people would say, just be happy you're sitting here, because maybe you pissed off the wrong person, you know, because there's certain people in politics you don't piss off because they have a reputation, you know. That's right. And that reputation is a multi-dimensional

type of a reputation, you know what I'm talking about. I just everyone off, so I'm in bad shape. Maybe I'll come work here, you know. But we would love to be a contract in race, have you? Hey Tyler, do me if I pull up the article on yesterday, New York post, Hillary Clinton, Democrats are preparing her to run. I don't know if you saw that article. Did you see that?

Yeah, I'm curious to know. Pull it up, let's read it. And did you see this or no, I'm curious to know. Good. Let's pull it up. Let's read it. And did you see this? Or no, Adam? I have not. Adam, okay, go. There you go.

Press control plus to make it a little bigger. Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump 2024. Yep, life has become a horror movie. Yeah. That's a great title. Go up. All right, so we are officially a horror movie where the monster's never dies.

The virus never ends. And the next election sees Hillary Clinton as the Donald Trump. Yes, the two most polarized in presidential nominees of the modern time refused to go away. Clinton and Trump were more likely than they realized, namely, they each live in a reality of their own making. Trump continues to insist that 2020 election was stolen. Hillary believes that she won in 2016. What I was doing was working.

She told New York Magazine 2017, Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump said, I beat both of them back then, I called Hillary normal, Desmond of American politics, ever ready for her close up, while Knuckle Linker gripped on a scene, that long ago rejected her, as she refused to rule out 2020, partly leaders were vocal about moving on,

Joe Biden, I never thought she was a great candidate, Chuck Schumer, when you're loose to someone who has 40% popularity, you don't blame other things, you blame yourself. Wow. So this is pretty interesting. Do you think this is a real story? Do you think this is just kind of like New York Post wanted a ride to stores so people will talk about, but she's not going to be running?

You know, I wouldn't put a pastor. She's so tone deaf that it wouldn't surprise me. Not only would it not surprise me if she ran again, but it wouldn't surprise me if she ran again and did the exact same stuff she did, you know, multiple other times, skipped states, just, you know, was totally, you know, not paying attention to the actual issues that people care about. That would be a great movie. The problem is like we're in pretty distressed times right now.

Like, I mean, look, I, the person I think should run for, I want to see Rhonda Santos up there, I really do. I think he's done an amazing job, and I think he takes no garbage, and he holds media accountable, but he also knows when to get out of his own way. The problem with Trump, and I took plenty of heat for criticizing Trump, and it wasn't policy

that I was criticizing a lot at times. Chris Wallace, you made a comment about how he was comfortable in my Chris Wallace. I was tired. Chris Wallace, Chris Wallace, you made a comment about how he was comfortable. Chris Wallace. I was tired of all of it. He couldn't get out of his own way often times. I mean, you call them a third grader. Yeah, because the name calling and all of that stuff, it was just, you know, it's funny sometimes and you know, it revs up the base and if you're going to a rally, it can be

like, oh, ha, ha, try me to joke. But, you know, the bottom line was if he would have just stepped back and let his record speak for itself, and just know when to just pivot away. It's not about you, it's not about a petty battle on Twitter. That kind of drove me nuts after a while. So my issue wasn't with policy on him. It was with character and just like, come on man,

just step away and let these successes be successes. So DeSantis, I like governors in these positions because they've actually run something. And I really like him. I've seen many interviews where he's just like, that's not what's happening. These are the facts. This is what we're doing in Florida.

This is the model for a free nation and a free society. So, that's what I'm a fan of. And listen, I always welcome Hillary Clinton run. It's a guaranteed disaster. No chance she runs. Guaranteed disaster. Why didn't it be a disaster It's a guaranteed disaster. No chance she runs. But it is a disaster. But you're saying no chance she runs? Well, did you just say no chance she runs?

As tone deaf as she is, really, to remix it, and run it back. Oh, I was surprised. You think the Democratic party wants her back? No. You think there's, you know, for her? Well, so there. Who are they going to, Joe Biden is taking the disgrace.

I don't even think, I don't even think, clearly the Democrats need to figure out who's in their stable. Clearly, we talked about Michelle Obama potentially being a candidate. I've never thought that she was going to run ever. Now I'm like, well, you know, there's ever a time in Michelle Obama. I think she runs, she could win. I don't, again, same thing. I don't think she wants to give up that life.

Would you vote for Trump in 2024? Against, too. Against. Yeah, or anyone, anyone, anyone, whoever the Democrats throw up there, just Trump out your vote. I will never, I will never vote for a big government Democrat ever.

I will never vote for big government. So my problem with Trump, I have to listen to what Trump says. And Trump is, we already know what he's going to say. Yeah, and now he's on the vaccines, odd comments and this, that, I think what I will say is today, and I can't tell you what I'm going to do Trump says. Trump is- We already know what he's going to say. So what's there for? Yeah, and now he's on the vaccines, odd comments, and this, that, you know, I think what I will say is today,

and I can't tell you what I'm going to do next round. I know I often do a lot of writings because I'm like, oh, these people all are just terrible, but I can't tell you what I'm going to do today because I don't know in that situation. But my guy is DeSantis. Okay. That's why I would.

If he runs, I don't know. Again, his wife has health issues that he's dealing with right now, and he's attending to right now. If Trump runs, the one thing I think it'd be very uncomfortable to see is a stage would Trump and the Santas together because I don't think that's gonna be a good scene.

No. If those two are in the same state. It'll be good for DeSantis. Yeah, I think it'd be great for TV. No, it'll be great for DeSantis. Because DeSantis is basically going to tout policy better than Trump. He has a very strong record and he also isn't going to stoop to that nonsense. So he's going to look like the adult in the room is the honest truth.

Well, I've been very vocal that someone like me who's somewhere in the middle, a lot of people in this thing, I'm a socialist, communist, I'm just not a Trump or guy, I would 100% vote for DeSantis. And I would communist, I'm just not a Trump or guy. I would 100% vote for a DeSantis. And I would also 100% not vote for a Trump. You understand what I'm saying? Right? Right there, like DeSantis got you, young, vibrant, policy, smart, Florida, what's up?

Let's do it. Trump, really, we're gonna run back that horror movie from 2016. So that's something that's... Let me ask you a question. Here's a question for you. Trump Hillary, what are you doing? Again? Yeah, if it's Trump Hillary, what are you doing?

Yeah, you would So I can absolutely tell you I would not Listen, I think Hillary actually has good policies. I think she's terrible tone deaf and not exactly You know gonna circle the wagons to the Midwest. Go ahead. You want to play this game? No, I'm just saying, can we get a Hillary shirt for him? Can you actually make a note? I'm with her. Yeah, let's get a shirt for him. Get that, sure.

Make a note next one. Trump Hillary from me, I'm voting for Trump. He's not my ideal. I think he made a lot of mistakes. I held him accountable for those mistakes on live TV many times. He's not my guy. I'm not like, nagged, I don't do that with any politician. Except for Rand Paul. No, I'm also like nagged so that you know, I don't do that with any politician But I except for a Rand Paul

No, I'm also not wearing a Rand Paul hat here today. You know what I mean like that's not my Can we get her a Rand Paul hat a sapling? No, get me yeah, Rand Paul in the front and Sarah by the way Do you think Rand Paul stands a chance at all forever being in office? Tell me why tell me why if you say, no, what do you think? Does he stand a chance? To be president? President, number one.

No. Chief, no. No, I like him. I like him. And I like what he's doing. But on the debate stage, it just doesn't work. He shrinks on the debate stage, really. You mean, hype, white?

No, no, I beat like, he just kind of vanishes. And I feel like he, I remember, I always tweet through these debates. And I remember feeling like he, I remember, I always tweet through these debates and I remember feeling like he, all of those issues that he really does care about, like freedom and these are things he lives. He has trouble connecting to the audience on those things. Like I want to see someone who people feel like, you need to be charismatic in politics. You need to be someone that people feel like that person gets me. Can I tell you something about Pat? And this is something that he's taught me and I'll let you, you know, weigh in on this. There's a difference between policy and personality and persona. And,

you know, we have this debate all the time. Most people vote on persona, personality. Rand Paul might have amazing policies, but people are going gonna be like, he's just born in the days of reality TV, social media. You need to be a big, vibrant, loud mouth, mother-sucker in order to sway the masses. Clearly Trump did that. So, I mean, what you're saying, I agree with you, but that standard oftentimes only applies to Republicans. Because Kamala Harris is terrible at this.

She laughs inappropriately. She also got four percent. She also got four percent. She's terrible at this. She laughs inappropriately. Well, she also got four percent. Joe Biden is terrible at this. He's in office right now. Some of these Democrats, Hillary Clinton is a horrible candidate. Like, find me someone off the street, a random person off the street, and they will do that better than she does.

Horrible at being a political candidate. Bernie's pretty loud mouth and did his thing. And kind of grumpy. I mean, that wouldn't work on the right. How dare you! How dare you! How dare you! You need to be like what? You have to be Clint Eastwood on the right. You have to be Luke Perry basically. I mean, did you see her eyes like literally flutter as you brought up my husband's at home watching like I saw that. I saw that. I'm sure you've had many sides. So by the way, Luke Perry or Chris Isaac. Because Chris Isaac showed up. Do you

remember Chris Isaac or no? Chris Isaac showed up. Do you remember Chris Isaac or no? Singer Not that was another one that he had he had the what was the The video he had this video that the jukebox would play all the time and you would not miss it precise it on the beach I probably know somebody's crying is it somebody's crying or something? Something the game, the crying game? Wicked game. Wicked game. Wicked game. That was a pretty sick song.

By the way, sick remix. I think he did a, put in Chris Isaac Beverly Hills 90210. Am I just losing my mind here? Possibly. I thought he was a, I think it's Isaac with a K. Yeah, he was on Beverly Hills 90210. I was right.

You missed that episode. Wait, oh, he was? No, I definitely saw the episode. I had to see where it was. But Pat, you were saying about personality personas. Yeah, so she has a point because the last election, again, the last election wasn't about personality. I don't think anybody showed up to Biden rally.

Everybody that showed up got a $50 gift certificate to cheesecake factory. Like, you were forced to a short and that was like cheesecake every day. But it was media really made you hate Trump. So they showed up against him. There was no personality or policies. You go to Hillary. It wasn't personality. She didn't focus on policy.

The question she asked in the view, which she should see the question she asked, she said, do you think one of the reasons, my baby, again, I'm paraphrasing, is because Obama's policies on Obama care didn't work out and then as well as you were focused so much against him versus he was focused on policies and that's why he likes to think that's what really happened and then she said maybe a little bit and then she want to give her answers but I think Hillary

didn't focus on policies. Hillary was more about let's make make the first women, the first female, that was her campaign. It was never policy. So she's not gonna win. She went on Zach Galifanakis. I don't know if you saw that one when she was on Zach Galifanakis. Between two firms. Between two firms.

Did you ever see that one? I did, sadly. So, you gotta give these. Obama went on there. No, no, no. So she tried to play the Obama playbook. Okay. The difference is Obama went on there and he had

Charm and he won Right Hillary went on there and he says I'm sorry. We got to take a break for advertisers And he plays the Trump video He says this is brought to you by our sponsor Donald Trump I don't know if you remember that hilarious right and it's just like what do you do? What do you do? It's all about, but it was so funny. And her rebuttal wasn't the right one.

Like you just didn't like her. She's awkward. She's awkward and uncomfortable in that relationship. Very robot. Bill Clinton was likable. Bush senior screwed up because he was kind of like the out of touch president and Ron Paul kind of hurt him a little bit when that question was asked about that. Reagan had charming charisma and humor

probably more than anybody else in the last 50 years. Bush was kind of quirky, funny, likeable. I wouldn't have a beer with this guy, president. Junior. Yeah, Junior, he was different. He was different. He literally did have a beer with him. Yeah, we had a great time together.

But today, the question becomes, who do we want today? Like, what does America look for today? Midterms is gonna be a shellacking. By the way, did you guys see the article that came out about Spain and Europe, what they're doing with COVID? Did you see what just came out? The one.

Okay, pull up that article about yesterday. Very interesting, by the way. Very, and this tells you a lot, but what could happen in America? Go to, it's a Bloomberg article. I just emailed it to you. That's the one. Click on that. Check this out. Pretty interesting. Europe slowly starts to consider treating COVID like the flu. Welcome to the normal world. New metrics are needed as COVID becomes endemic. Spain, PM sets, by the way, Spain

is a socialist country. Okay. Their former president left because they raised taxes so high. So we were not talking about a capitalistic nation. Hospitalization rates remain manageable despite surging cases. Spain is calling for COVID-19 to be treated as an endemic disease, like the flu becoming the first major European nation to explicitly suggest that people live with it. The idea has gradually been gaining traction and could prompt a revaluation of government strategies on dealing with the virus, British education, secretary Nadahim Zahawi on Sunday

told BBC that the UK is on path towards transitioning from pandemic to endemic to Omicron variant, low variance, lower hospitalization and death rates. Despite record infections, prompt, prompt the Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez to hold out the tantalizing prospect of Europe moving beyond the pandemic, so restriction on normal life. By the way, very, very good news. What does endemic mean? Meaning it's like to the end of it.

Yeah, kind of, kind of, kind of, you're not getting rid of COVID like this idea. And I think it's important to remember how this started. It was like two weeks to flatten the curve. And that meant a couple of weeks, you were gonna do a lockdown. I was somebody that was on board with that by the way in the beginning. I was like, okay, two weeks.

Everybody was, because it was so new and so like what the hell's going on? What's going on? All right, two weeks flatten the curve and that meant, okay, we're gonna flatten it. We're gonna get these hospitalizations down. We're gonna get treatments out there. Although we now know that a lot of treatments were suppressed,

it's a whole other conversation, but regardless, you know, it was, okay, now it's what, two years later, and we're, I mean, some teachers unions are advocating for teachers not to do in-person teaching in the United States of America. So this is right, this is right, it's endemic. Yes, it's endemic, an amicron for the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people of all age brackets is a cult.

That is what it is. It is a cult where most people, and we've never had bad, have so learned. I'm with you. But for bad cult, do you not have in-person learning for children? Do you not have people going to work? I mean, this is crazy at this point.

So what they're doing, great. Some of us have been saying this for months and months and months, and it's not happening in the United States. Why is it not now? Well, now you see a little bit. There was a report that the AP came out and said, let's not focus on cases anymore. Let's not. How convenient. You had a death tracker up on CNN for how long? Well, of course, you're not gonna focus on cases because a lot of these cases are asymptomatic people or people with mild symptoms. And that's not an indication of anything except that, yeah. COVID is around, Omicron is around.

People are getting it, they're feeling a little bit sick, the few days later, they're better, a lot. Most people, most people. So, you know, media has changed. You're gonna see a lot of manipulation come because they have to protect Joe Biden. And Joe Biden said he was gonna get rid of the virus and he didn't because he wasn't gonna get rid of the virus.

And Trump wasn't gonna get rid of the virus. No one was gonna get rid of the virus. Trump also said that it's gonna be here today and gone tomorrow by July 4th, or we're all gonna be going to Easter together. But here's what I would say. So guess what, America fired him, right? Which is fine, which is fine.

But check this out. Here's the part, and I posted this the other day on the tweet, I said, I look for constant. This is very important to keep talking about this, because we had under Trump when COVID came out, the worst day in cases was 300,000 cases. I think it was January 28 of 2021, which he was still president, pre inauguration, right?

300,000 cases in a day. The worst day under Biden has been a million 18,000 in a day, which was nine days ago, eight days ago, million 18 in a single day. So Trump got fired, Obama's the next president, who has been constant, Biden is president, Trump got fired, who has been constant during these two administrations? One person, Dr. Anthony Fauci. And by the way, here's, here's, so I brought this up conversation with some people I was in Vegas yesterday.

I just got back from Vegas last night, 11 o'clock. I got back to the place. We had an insurance conference and we're having this conversation. One guy works at emergency room in Maryland and he's a doctor and we're having this debate of what's going on. Fauci. So you make a decision on what to do with this whole situation of the virus on how to handle it.

You go back and you look at what he did with AIDS. You go back and look at what he did with all this stuff. I'm not even gonna go there. Just go read the book by RFK, the truth about Fauci, if you haven't read it, if you're interested. If you're interested. I think it's a very good book. It's a long book, but it's worth the read. I went, the truth about Fouch, if you haven't read it, if you're interested. You're reading it now? I think it's a very good book. It's a long book, but it's a very, it's worth the read.

I went through the books, fascinating. Here's a part. I don't think that position moving forward I'm comfortable being one person. I don't think I'm comfortable with that. Like a Supreme Court, such a thing. I think it's a Supreme Court model. I'm comfortable.

It's a three to, it's a four to three, he's 80 years old, it's four to three three and you guys sit there So guess what on one side you have somebody that's part of Peter McCullough camp, you know You got somebody that's part of a Malone camp. You got somebody that's part of that camp on the other side You got a Fauci you got any of these guys that are there no problem sit down hash it out Let us let Congress people question both of you and let us kind of sit down and hear it. But right now, the only person's argument we are allowed to hear is Tonys. And in business, you know what you would call that?

You know what you would call that a monopoly. What do we do? Monopoly. Story came out just yesterday as the government right now is breaking apart Facebook saying, WhatsApp, Instagram, you cannot have all and by the way I think they're right as a capitalist but as a capitalist I think this guy's got the biggest monopoly and it's hurting America and I think if here's a crazy prediction for you if We'll check this out Adam curious to know what you would say about this

J. Did I imagine we wake up tomorrow morning? Premise terms tomorrow Friday J. Did I imagine we wake up tomorrow morning, pre-mid-term, tomorrow, Friday, announcement made, the Biden administration has decided to part ways with Fauci and a new person's gonna be replacing him, okay? And they'll be announcing him next week or two. How do you think America's gonna react

if that were to happen? Actually think about, and by the way, so you have the people on the left, the 47%, you have the people on the right who are 44% they're not gonna change your positions the 44% is gonna be ecstatic the 47% is gonna be that's the dumbest decision you ever made I'm talking about the middle take the libertarians at the green party I'd say the middle 12% how is the middle 12% gonna react if they announce tomorrow that Fauci is fired. Well, well, do you think they're going to react well? Yes, I do.

I actually do because he's so horrible and I think people know. But it depends on who goes in there. And what you're saying about, you know, put someone who's like Fauci, put someone who's like Malone, let them hash it out, that will never happen because these people are big pharma mouthpieces. End of story. That's who Fauci is. He is a big pharma mouthpieces. End of story. That's who Fauci is. He is a big pharma mouthpiece.

He is lied repeatedly to people about a number of issues over and over and over again. He lied about what the vaccine was capable of. He lied about what it was incapable of. He lied about masks. He's telling people don't see your unvaccinated family members. Why? Vaccine, everyone I know who's Vax has either,

quote, can get it. They spreading it. It's happening all over the place. Why? So I think there's a lot of people in the country that distrust him and want him out, but they also distrust the system at large. And they don't believe. They're questioning now Big Pharma at large.

As people who never thought to ask questions about the stuff who are now saying, wait a minute. Why, why is there a liability protection for X, Y, and Z? Why is there no accountability from big-former? Why are they allowed to tout statistics and whatnot? And then if those statistics go down the toilet two months later, they don't have any accountability for what's actually gone on. So I actually think the population would love that, but they would be like, okay, well, who is it now?

And I don't believe that the Biden administration would ever put someone forth. That would be neutral. Neutral is dangerous. Well, and they, so they tried that with Corona. They had, remember the task force? They had like six or seven people on the task force. And the lady who wore the scarf every day. Yeah, Deborah Berg, she had Fauci.

You had everybody else. And there was, everybody was in conjunction except for one scientist was Scott Atlas and they squashed him. It really was all. Not only did they squash him, but they squashed all of the doctors and the great barrington agreement it's called over-deferred, it's called declaration,

great barrington, declaration that we're coming out and saying, let's focus on the vulnerable here, but you can't lock down a whole society. You can't do this to kids who are not at risk of this infection. I mean, kids have a 99.997 percent plus survival rate to COVID-19. And that is when you're even counting deaths as with COVID as opposed to from COVID. So they're not interested in what you're suggesting. That is not interesting to them. What they want is this is the path, people that we know that we

want their pockets lined are going to get their pockets lined. They also wanted fear and despair in the population. They wanted people scared, terrified, feeling like you're not going to back mandates and lockdowns unless you are terrified. So they needed the country scared. Even if that wasn't justified, and now you see them coming out and saying, oh, half the people in New York hospitalized with COVID, actually weren't hospitalized for COVID. They just incidentally tested positive. And many of them were asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic.

That had nothing to do with why they were being hospitalized. They needed you to believe differently because division breeds loyalty to a regime. Division breeds loyalty to very intrusive policies that stand to overtake your entire life, and they needed that. And now they're realizing that people are just awake, because they're like, wait a minute, you told me this, this didn't happen. You told me if I got vaccinated, I wasn't going to get sick, I got sick anyway.

This doesn't make sense. So they're having to walk back their stats now, and you're going to see collusion between the CDC and the Biden administration and the teachers unions eventually, they're going to roll in late on all of these talking points. And media, you're gonna see the AP, you're gonna see you already see it, it's CNN, Jake Tapper coming out and asking, all of a sudden he has these questions?

Come on, it's strategically colluded between all of these people, and they would have never, ever allowed for dissent in those spaces. And think about big farmer perspective too, and the money that would have been stood to lose there, because if you ask questions, even just say empowering people

to do their own risk benefit analysis, there would have been people that got vaccinated anyway. My parents would have gotten vaccinated anyway. That was a decision they made, which by the way I supported them in that decision, I made those appointments sort of them, I drove them to those appointments, but there would have been people who didn't want the vaccine, but got it for work because

they couldn't put food on the table for their families otherwise that would not have gotten it. People that get fired because they don't think they're effective. Right. Well, how about now they're putting COVID positive nurses and doctors? Oh, if you're asymptomatic, but you have COVID, you can go back into the hospital because they're shortages. You fired, COVID recovered, nurses and doctors who weren't symptomatic.

That's a work-long term, though. They not gonna win like that though. It's not gonna happen No, look what's happening with Kyrie Irving right now. He's laughing it up sitting outside. By the way Let me tell you salute to him for not Given in succumbing to the I cannot give you I cannot tell you how much I respect the fact that the guy who to me And I'm telling you right now. I'm not a Kyrie fan refund you've heard what I've said about this is this is a guy that's like I don't care about this I don't care about this the fact that he said no I'm not taking it and the NBA had to pivot and adjust and say what yeah fine you can play I don't he still can't play in New York City or doesn't have a long term he's gonna he's proven he's the one that's making progress not the NBA

his argument is making progress not the NBA's the NBA gave in to him and said okay Fine go ahead because the NBA owner said listen man like we you got to let the sky play and we gonna get the sky to play I'm a capitalist. I got around my business. I'm paying this guy 19 20 million. You're I'm paying this guy to come Well, other cities just don't have Vax mandates. He played his, I think his first game was Indiana. Indiana is like, all right. It doesn't matter, but here's the angle that kind of it's interesting to me. So I'm a fan of Bernie Sanders as a person. Hear me out. Hear me out where I'm going with this.

I had a communist on. I've had a lot of communists. I probably know, I don't six or seven communists, right? Sometimes people, that does on the weekend. The main communists are fun. I would love to know how many of those videos were pulled. I'm guessing none. None of them. They're all on. Absolutely.

That is so surprising to me. Call Army Shocked everyone. What a great research we just did in two seconds. She's right. None of them have been pulled. But I have these commies on and I interview them. And I'm curious to know where they think. And I respect the ones that are true believers. The ones that are just phony trying to sound like there,

you know, you'll catch them very quickly within 30 minutes, you're full of shit. You're not really talking about, right? Okay, so you just actin' up. But some of the guys you talk, you're like, okay, cool, I respect it. I think Bernie's a true believer. You know what's confusing to me with Bernie?

Why I think a Bernie and a Bernie and an AOC in the most strangest way are necessary. Let me explain why. AOC the other day called out, not the other day, about five weeks ago called that Pelosi saying, Congress, you know, people in politics shouldn't be able to, you know, invest because, yeah, because we have insider reformers.

It's like, no, I'm an investor, you can't tell me anything. I'm gonna do it, right? But by the way, other people are now coming in. somebody not Jim Jordan who was a guy that maybe even Jim Jordan who called that policy Recently not Jim Jordan the other guy There's a meadows. I don't know. I don't know who was pull up to see who just called that policy. Here's what I'm going with this Do you know the medicine AZT? AZT was for eight. I only know suit of it. That's all right. That's right, but AZT, AZT was for eight. I only know suit of fact. That's all I can. Okay, that's right. But AZT, AZT was a pill they came up with for AIDS,

which by the way, some claim 330,000 people died from this. Like, remember, Acutane had a lot of side effects? Like, this is like times, you know, a lot higher. People died from taking AIDS medication. Keep AIDS medication. Keep AIDS medication. But here's a part. when they built this medicine, when they finally came out with this medicine,

do you know how much it cost them to make? Each pill? $2 cents. This would cost them to make. Penciling it for $100 a pill? No, $10,000. And guess who was for it? A guy named Fauci.

So a person that shouldn't be for what Fauci's doing is in a random way, I think an AOC, if a Bernie Sanders, if they come together and they realize that this guy's simply supporting big pharma, AOC and Bernie could play a very important role in a Fauci no longer being here because Bernie keeps talking about what? What does Bernie say?

How could you charge so much for this medicine? How could you charge so much for this medicine? How could you charge so much for this medicine? How is the free college? Do you realize this? That's a billion and this thing called 60 cents to make, but they're selling you $4,000. Okay, Bernie, I agree with you. Yeah, with you. You're right. Keep pushing the envelope because the guy that's

endorsing and allowing these things to happen because here's what happens with them. They got 20 different products that's being pitched. Hey, this could be the cure for this. But I'm only looking at the five that I want to deal with because it's what happens with them. They got 20 different products that's being pitched. Hey, this could be the cure for this. But I'm only looking at the five that I wanna deal with because it's got, I'm not spending time investigating these other ones. So my resources are being used for this five. But these other 15, they're cheap, cost effective,

less side effects, less testimony. No, not right now, maybe you're from now. Maybe two years from now, maybe three years from now. So I think the possibility of Fauci getting fired could be high and in the most random weirdest way, I think the people that can help that happen is Bernie and AOC. That's for sure.

The thing is though Bernie and AOC, and you're right, I mean, these should not be big-farm allies, they should be sounding the alarm and all this stuff, but the problem is is that they're benefiting from the chaos, the division, and the panic. Again, part of all of this is panic, right? You know, because there are treatments available now. We shouldn't be panic now. This is not March of 2020. There are treatments available. There are monoclonals. There are drugs that we know. Yes, hypermectin has been used successfully. And O'Jouroggan, took a bunch of hits, but it's true. There have been numerous studies on that. There's hydroxy, which people have taken. There's other treatments that are available for people now.

If you take that panic away, if you take that division away, communism cannot thrive. You can. It can't. It needs that because you have to believe that the state is for it. You have to believe that it's the state. It's what Fauci says. These people are sheep. They walk around. They're like, I don't know what to do. Do I double mass? Do I shield? Do I triple mass? They need that. So if you remove that and all of a sudden AAC starts questioning Big Pharma, people will start realizing, well, wait a minute, was this a lot lot of this did a lot of this have to do with money did a lot of this have to do with suppression of treatments did we really need to be panicking for this long about this condition and I want to see what you're gonna see I'm gonna push back and see what you're gonna see so um how many people on the right would like to see a third party none on the right no I mean I mean listen like let me. Yes, there are people, but it's not in a majority because they know that a third party will enable a Democrat success. Well, but now let me ask the other question. How many people on the left would

like to see a third party? You don't think so. Okay, well, this is my idea on what I'm thinking that I do believe both sides want to see a third party. Hear me out. Hear me out here. I think AOC is second-tiered of these Democrats that are getting into way. And I think AOC is convinced they're never going to buy in to what she's bought into ever. And I think AOC's eventually going to sit there and say, you know what? I'm loud enough. I got a bigger mic. I get more likes. I get more eyeballs. I have loud enough. I got a bigger mic. I get more likes. I get more eyeballs.

I have more followers. I got the younger audience. You don't. I'm sexier. I'm more attractive. I talk better. I speak better. And I'm a true believer.

And I'm gonna get these guys to be convinced we need a third party. So what's the third party? Third party say Democratic Socialist Party comes out. Let's just say, I'm just throwing this out there. Speculation, right? third party say democratic socialist party comes out let's just say i'm just throwing this out there speculation right i think where where that twelve percent of america wants to go to

that i think america's run by twelve percent i don't think america's ran by anything else but the twelve percent in the middle of the middle i think twelve percent runs america i didn't go all the other guys are just wasting time twelve percent of america runs america period it's a twelve percent that was like you know what i don't know about trump let me go over. It's a 12% that was like, you know what, I don't know about Trump, let me go over here. It's a 12% I said, you know, I don't know about Obama. Let's go to Trump.

It's a 12% the 12% runs. In the rest of the country. Everybody else is just talking. Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana. Everybody is talking. 12% is the one that runs the country. I think if it gets to the tipping point where these guys are eventually sitting there

having a strategy session because I think the four, you know, what did you call the four girls? What's the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, what's the, I think if those guys are eventually sitting there having a strategy session because I think the four, you know, what do you call the four, the four girls? What's the, the, I think if those guys are sitting behind closed doors and saying, hey, girls, you know what? Let's do it. Let's go. Let's go all out. Here's what we should do.

Now, you're shaking your head. No, I, I see we're going with this. I'm telling you right now, I actually think that's good for America. I actually think it's good for America if some of those guys go and some of the people from the right go because I think the left, I think the right from the right, they're like screw this, I want to be a libertarian, I'm going to go independent, let's push, let's actually bank on bringing a Ron Paul, not a Ron Paul, the founder of the internet, what's the guy, the guy that hold the board, our not out of the world's pro

let's get the next ross perro true believer a shaman type of guy a you know personal act that's like screw republicans screw democrats i'm an independent i'm a real independent that can make sense that's a salesperson that can get you to say this makes sense like you're saying rand paul doesn't he's so intellectual that he can't speak the language of the average

person believe it or not I think there's gonna be some positive happening from some of the socialist because they're not for big pharma and if you have to look at enemies like if you can if you sit there right now make a list of enemies like concerns like if you you know if you sit there and you got, you got, I don't know, you guys got kids or no, one can really help. That's a name of a book. You're hardly. That's right.

You're hardly. Who are you writing down over there? You wrote an enemy down. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no five and a six and a half month old man. Right? So I'm not exhausted. Vampire eyes don't see anything, but anyway, so here's what I'm going with this. I think those guys are ambitious enough to believe that. And I think if we look at the current enemies, look at the list of top 10 enemies, like you're raising kids. And you say, who are the enemies of me raising kids? Well, it's school, am I going to put them teachers? Like weird things you think as an enemy of a kid, a teacher, a friend, a coach, a Sunday school teacher, like, you gotta be kind of keeping your eyes open to see who's there, right? Son of a friend, you know, kids, like some of

that stuff, you're like, okay, who are the long term enemies of America? Us. Okay, so one is Silicon Valley, you have to put that on that list. Two is what? Let's say, socialist. Okay, fine one is Silicon Valley. You have to put that on that list. Uh, two is what? Let's say socialist. Okay, fine. Big farmers got to be in the top 10. Okay. China lobbyist got to be in the top 10. China is at the number one spot, right? You got to put Russia's probably in the top 10. Iran's probably in the top 15. But you have to put big farm on that list. So now how do you play against them? The way this happens on holding them accountable is when both sides kind of team up and say, you know what, no, it took you five cents to make this $10,000 is just too much abuse

and all these health insurance costs, you guys keep increasing, I have a lot of employees every year on paying more health insurance and I have the friction with the employee. Well, my health insurance is going up, I'm like, dude, I didn't increase your health insurance 30% This is what's increasing your health insurance. I think there is certain things that those two sides can disrupt big pharma I don't know. I may be maybe I had too much suit of it this morning I think I'm a very valid point right here everything you're saying anyways. I may be confused and lost

But I think my point makes so valid point. You're saying anyways, I may be confused and lost, but I think my point makes sense. So here's the problem with that though. If that segment of the left, you're talking about the AOC, is the Bernie Sanders. If they're gonna come out and criticize Big Pharma, they're gonna come out of from the perspective of the solution is socialized medicine. The solution is more government.

The solution is Medicare for all. That's a problem that's gonna appeal. It'll appeal to some. It will enrage others. Also, they're gonna have a really hard time doing that, because they need the support. If you're going to criticize Big Pharma, you also have to criticize the FDA.

You also have to criticize collusion that goes on between government organizations and institutions and these pharmaceutical companies and how really intrinsically linked they often are. They're not going to do that. So the right is, the people on the right who criticize Big Pharma will come in and say, well, they'll talk about profits,

but they'll talk about the answers to a lot of this is innovation, is choice, is freedom, is opportunity. The people from the left who criticize Big Pharma are going to say, well, they're all about profit and the way that we fix this is that we remove profit. And then you have socialized medicine where people are waiting, you know, lines and lines and lines, and, they're all about profit. And the way that we fix this is that we remove profit. And then you have socialized medicine where people are waiting, you know, lines and lines and lines. And you have government deciding for you.

Instead of big pharma deciding for you what you need, you need this, you need that, you're going to have government deciding it for you. And yeah, maybe it'll be less expensive, but I don't know that the outcome is any different. So I think it's very tricky. I don't, my question is always how much support, I know AOC's popular, she's on TikTok,

she's talking to young people, most of what she says to me makes absolutely no sense. If, I mean, I encourage her to come and sit and have a debate with me, I think it would be really great television. Most of what she says can easily be pushed back on and makes very little sense. But how much of the country actually is going to support

someone like that? Because I do think there are a lot of people who will and a lot of people who won't. But my concern is, what does that number look like? What is that percentage? Are we now seeing in America where these mandates and this way of life and this shift towards socialism is increasingly much more popular?

So that someone like an AOC, she ultimately decides one day she wants to run for president, actually has a chance. And what does that look like? I don't know. I think no. I don't. I think we're really very split right now

in the United States of America. And all you need to do is, you know what? Everybody out there, take a trip to New York City and spend three days there and then come out to Miami, head out to Dallas, Texas and just see the two completely different worlds we're living in. But I don't know how helpful it is. I don't know.

I mean, I always think splitting up political parties has an advantage because you force people to actually stand for something. But the allegiances will be the same, right? Like, AOC needs the teachers unions. The establishment Democrat needs the teachers unions. AOC needs government agencies. The Democrat establishment needs government agencies. That's why these third parties don't work oftentimes because they're out there on their

own. They have to break all of those ties. And then who's funding them? Where are their donations coming from? The people? Could work? I don't know. Well, I mean, that's the good part because neither Bernie nor aOC are getting checks from the big from big

Farma again. That's the part we got to respect where it's a lot of smaller guys are giving them the money right the government though It's better. I totally get it But the part is it doesn't matter if if the two if the two groups can unify on one enemy one is gonna pitch This is why the government's got to take care of it the other one's gonna say no You got to make the barrier to entry to compete a lot low because these guys are not helping the smaller companies come up and competing against a Pfizer competing against this guy. It's pretty much a control at the top right? So meaning for the longest time

Tell me one auto maker that competed in America when's the last time an auto maker competed in America? When's the last time you know how many years it's been? Do you know how many years it's been that a new auto maker comes out and whoops I'm an auto maker computer in America once the last time you know how many years it's been Do you know how many years has been that a new auto maker comes out and whoops on ass What's the last no no no prior to that prior to Tesla you're saying who was it name it DeLorean and American American Yeah, who an American not an American company comes out and compete other than the big three other than GM Chrysler Yeah, tell me one nobody. I can't even think of it. Do you realize how many years that is? So what happens with Tesla? What's the best thing that happened with America? Elon Musk. Tesla comes out, disrupts the automotive industry.

They're scared, they're sending their send, holy frickin' moly. Biden and his administration holds an EV meeting and at the White House, they invite Chrysler, they invite for, they invite GM, and the only guy they don't invite is the guy that disrupted the EV Elon Musk so how necessary isn't Elon Musk very necessary, but he's not a politician So here's the thing, but I'm saying but I'm saying the posting I'm saying if the two like like but Elon Musk is also not a Republican

Right, Elon Musk is probably independent. He's not a Republican. Yeah, you can't sit there. He's a Republican. Right. All I'm saying is I think The people on the right anything they say about big pharma the left is gonna say what? Yeah, they're gonna say something like that. Well, how about the fact that you know ruler, you know Murdoch and what Fox is doing, but if an aOC and a Bernie says that Then Democrats have to sit there and say, oh, maybe Bernie's right, Yala, this is true, this is, like this whole thing right now, the confusion with, my body, my choice. Right.

What is my body, my choice? Right. My body, my choice is what? Is, hey, if I want to get an abortion, it's up to me. You're right. Look at the hypocrisy in the last 12 months. You're right. My body, my choice.

And that's a debate that's a little bit different too, because, and people always say, well, my body, my choice, you're right. There is a lot of hypocrisy from people who would argue, who would support abortion, but then would turn around and tell you to, you know, the Vax mandates are totally legit. But the difference with that is also because people will come out and say, well, that involves another person, you know, if you're pregnant, that involves another life. That's a whole different pro-life argument that would have to be brought in and debated.

But I understand what you're saying, but I don't think I think that what you would be suggesting would imply that these politicians are principled and don't have those underlying ties to establishment X, Y, and Z throughout. I don't think AOC is someone who's out there. You saw a year ago, I remember, she was making headlines, she was going after Pelosi,

they were like the division, the left is falling apart. She took two steps forward and she fell right back in line because she understands that there's a lot of power that comes from being part of something she can criticize them. I don't know, I don't know of what you're talking. I think there are people who can break the system, but I firmly believe that those people

come from outside of Washington DC, not inside. Yeah, to me, I see Bernie and AOC that they believe what they're talking about. Bernie more than AOC, because Bernie got married and his honeymoon was in Russia. I mean, did you go to Russia on your honeymoon? I didn't go to Russia on my honeymoon. Well, he believes it, but he's not living,

his lifestyle doesn't ascribe to what, I mean, he's got a ton of money. He's, and he has, he does have a lot of money, but he's also a guy that in the area of going up against big pharma, I'm just telling you, he will play a very important role in beating those guys. He's very, very important in that area, okay?

You and I don't have to agree on, hey, you don't like Tyler, I don't like Tyler, whatever, kids, but you like him, I don't like him, whatever. I like Adam, you don't like Adam, whatever. But if you and I agree and say, look, that guy right there, I don't agree with that. He does this, this, this. But that one thing, I can go on that one thing with you.

And you open them and say, look, folks, Bernie here and I don't agree on 99% of things. But let me tell you the one thing that we agree in. There's no way in the world medication costs a thousand dollars when they make it for pennies. That's the one area Bernie has referred to, say we agree on that. I say, I think we want to see that. We want to see it. It's never going to happen. It's never going to happen because that's

on how the sides of the political aisle work. I read this book called the Power of Positive Thinking. You're very positive. And I understand now, in a different political environment in a different world, I hear what you're saying. It sounds great that people would be able to focus on an issue, come together on different sides of an aisle, attack that issue. They're just, it's not going to happen,

because they see it as a domino effect, and they're going in such drastically different direction solution-wise. That's the problem. My solutions are over here. Your solutions are over here, never to come, and meet in the center for any reason. I just don't think it's going to happen, but we can agree to disagree on that one. I'll watch.

I'll be I want front row tickets and popcorn if I start. Bernie, if you want to talk big pharma, please, you have to might come on here. Let's talk. He's going to do it. Big pharma. I wouldn't be surprised if Bernie shows up one of these days. Okay. You talk about Rogan earlier, right?

I want to read this. Can you pull up this tech insider article that just came out, which is absolutely, and I wanna give you a prediction. I wanna make a prediction here with this on what I believe is gonna happen next. Do you know what you're on on Tomatai email that you if you wanna pull it up,

you should have it somewhere there. So folks, a lot of people are not happy with this guy named Joe Rogan. Can you give me if everyone go to the actual article instead of just having it that way? Go to the actual article. It says put Spotify, misinformation, scientists, police, those words, it should come up. Doctors call on Spotify to, okay, there you go. Here we go, we'll read this. Doctors call, make it a little bit bigger so I can read it.

Doctors call on Spotify to stop COVID misinformation, citing Joe Rogan, podcast to platform is helping damage public trust and scientific research according to a letter signed by hundreds of medical professionals. I believe the number is 270 by the way that signed it. It's called a little bit higher.

More than 250 medical professionals have signed an open letter call on Spotify to clamp down on COVID-19 information spreading on his platform, especially calling out the podcasts of comedian Joe Rogan. The letter took issue with December 31st episode of Joe Rogan, experienced podcast. When he featured Dr. Robert Mollon and immunologists who claims to have created the mRNA technology, but is now a vocal skeptic of the vaccine that use it by allowing the propagation of false and societally harmful assertion, spotifies enabling its hosted media to damage public trust and scientific research. And so, doubt in the credibility data driven guidance offered by medical professionals,

great words, by the way, the way they worded that sounds very legit. This is not a scientific or medical concern. It's a sociological issue of devastating proportions and Spotify's run for a long time. The letter was first reported Wednesday by Rolling Stone. Okay, so now watch this.

So now they're attacking who? They're going after Rogan, but they're really going after who? This is not Rogan. They're going after Spotify. Okay, so who is, who runs Spotify? Who is the CEO of Spotify? Who is the CEO of Spotify? Pull up CEO of the Spotify, okay,

and you'll see who he is. Daniel Eck. Yeah, and what he wants to do, okay. What he wants to do. Swedish billionaire. Yeah, Swedish billionaire, here, 38 years old. Young dude.

And he wants to win that game. I think Michelle Obama's with them, podcasts, Kardashians, I believe, is with them, podcasts. They're going after all the big names, right? Where's Obama and, Oh, yeah, I know it's a spring thing. Here's all I'm saying to you. Watch in the next week, two weeks, three weeks, four weeks,

if they go after this guy. Because now he's a target. Okay, watch if something comes out with a Me Too drug habit. Watch if something comes out with his personal life. You know, he lost Super Mario Brothers when he was 18. Watch something comes out. Right. He broke up with his first girlfriend. You know, he lost Super Mario Brothers when he was 18. Why, something comes out. He broke up with his first girlfriend. He likes older women, he likes whatever.

He's into certain kinky things. Some things gonna come out about this guy in the next few days. You can just get to do some hit pieces. Are you, kids, be good. Think about it this way. For sure. Who is, like that whole thing with Gator, right? The Gator Twitter and Joe Rogan called them out.

I think he said the one of the investors in Gator is what, a Chinese Chinese something. I don't know if he saw that or not that he called it. I said even Rogan who got them a million people, he still slammed them and he said, Joe Rogan slammed so she made a platform. Gator called it. What is it called? Fugaisi just days after Fucker. Yeah, okay. Joe for Fugaisi just days after joining. Go go little or okay. So anyway, so Joe. Yeah, I can cause Joe Rogan calls. Joe Rogan calls out this new app because the investors in the back end are Chinese. But right now Silicon Valley, think about how many people like our most viewed interview on Spotify is Dr. Malone's interview. Our most viewed interview ever on Spotify is Dr. Malone because everybody says,

where can I get it? You can go to Spotify. We don't have a Rumble account. Rumble account CEO reached out to me. We're going to have a conversation and see what happens there. But I'm not on Rumble. So point be in, if this happens and they're now fearing what Rogan's doing, if Daniel stays strong, as big as Spotify's, they're about to blow up even more.

If you stay strong, they're about to blow up even more. But see, this should terrify everyone what's going on. I mean, and I saw that Joe Rogan was a target, so I started listening to him because I was like, what is this guy doing over there that's getting so much heat? People are terrified. He's just having people on and asking questions. He's just having guests.

They're coming on doctors. He's asking questions. He's not telling everyone, don't get vaccinated. I have never heard him say that. He's saying, look, I know people who had bad side effects. I know people who didn't, what's going on here with the data. He taught, he video was released the other day that I had missed from December where he's talking about how pharmaceutical companies, they're the only ones that retain their raw

data. This is important information. And you have Americans left, right, and center right now who are tired of establishment media because yeah, you know, you showed that article and it says, oh, all these medical professionals hate this. Who are you talking about? Are you talking about big, pharma allies that are threatened by someone who's actually asking questions to people like Malone? Why are you so threatened by Malone? You have a million doctors sitting on cable news all day long that for the last year and

a half have been spouting lies and nonsense that have then we've watched every single one of those things be disproven. Most of them have never apologized for anything, but you can't listen to Dr. Malone on Joe Rogan, give his opinion and talk about what he sees happening. Why is there a shutdown? So people should be absolutely horrified by what's happening. And you know what, go and listen. Go get on Joe Rogan Show and just listen.

Because the same thing happened to me. You know, I was shut down for misinformation on network television. I then wrote an article. I don't know if you know this, but the Daily Mail had approached me. I know, I was shut down for misinformation on network television. I then wrote an article. I don't know if you know this, but the Daily Mail had approached me. I saw that.

They took it back or something like that. They pulled it down in the middle of the night. They asked me, the Daily Mail asked me to write an article about my stand on vaccines. I wrote the article. I submitted it. It was edited. Like I agreed to the edits.

They published it in the middle of the night. It disappears with no explanation. This is happening to people in every aspect of media. There is a shutdown of people just asking questions. So, you know, and nothing I said in the eye then posted screenshots, and I was like, look at what I'm saying. I'm telling people to make their own informed decision

based on their own risk-benefit analysis and their own conversations with their donors. That's somehow threatening to make pharma. And of course it is is because big pharma is coming out with one size fits all approaches and one size fits all never works in medicine. It never works in health. Anyone who's had any health obstacle in their life knows that one size fits all is garbage. So be

scared. You know, when we were talking about the election, I remember people talking about, you know, a stolen election. And I didn't buy into that because I they were talking about voting machines. And I didn't buy into that because they were talking about voting machines. And I was having conversations. I was on Fox News at the time with GOP officials on the ground who were telling me, this is not true.

We are Republicans. We are making sure we are counting these. We are manually counting them. After this stuff is tallied up in the machines, this is not happening. And I say now, if you're going to talk about an election and collusion, what you really should have been talking about is not happening. And I say now, if you're going to talk about an election and collusion, what you really should have been talking about is this stuff.

There was collusion going on between big tech, there was collusion going on between politicians and big pharma, all of that was happening. All of that was happening. That was what led to the election changing the way that it did. It wasn't about COVID. It was about all of that stuff. It was about manipulation of data. It was about manipulation of information. It was about manipulation of information.

It was about CNN's tracker that was up, the death tracker, and now suddenly is not there. This was all targeted. So if you're a free speech advocate, I don't care. I don't give a damn if you're a Republican, a Democrat, a libertarian. If you are a free speech advocate, and you just want people to be able to have their voices heard,

to have their questions answered, then you should be appalled by what is going on right now with the shutdown of voices. And Joe Rogan is an example of that, and the only reason he's getting attention is because he has a ton of viewers, and they're like, oh my God, this may convince people to realize that they should have ownership of their own lives

and their own health. That's all it's about. His viewership puts MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, Hannity, talker to shame. We had the stats up a lot. Right, and I don't agree wither to shame. I mean, we had the stats up a lot. Right. And I don't agree with him on everything. I mean, Joe, Joe, as Pat says, the most necessary voice

in America, right? He can't be part of some of the questions. And so is every individual podcast, and that's people are like getting away from corporate media. And they're listening to people like you. They're listening to people like Rogan. They're listening to all of these people who are just telling you what they think and having guests on and asking

hard questions. That's all it's about. But science is meant to be questioned. And if you're opposing that, then you're endorsing propaganda. But you know, the problem with big farm on is that there's no money in natural immunity. It can't be monetized. Right, so if there's no money in it,

why the hell would they just encourage that? She says a lot of money in vaccines, masks and everything. There's over 140 studies now that confirmed natural immunity. Natural immunity is not new. This is not a new concept. When I went, when I was pregnant and I went to the doctor and she tested me, you know, things like measles and chicken pox can be dangerous if you get them when you're pregnant. So she said, we're going to test you.

We're going to test you for antibodies. Even though I had been vaccinated for measles when I was young, I had had actually had been exposed to chicken pox. I never got the rash, but I had the antibodies. She tested me. She said, okay, you have the antibodies and don't worry. She didn't say, oh, you have the antibodies. Let's give you a booster.

This is not new to scientists. And there's a lot of doctors around the country that have been outraged. Not, these are doctors who are vaccinated. The guy who wrote my medical exemption is vaccinated himself. These are not anti-vaxers. It's not a group of anti-vaxers. These are doctors who are saying... Dr. Malona's vaccine. Yes, he's vaccinated. And he's been labeled...

He thought he was going to die. He's been labeled as anti-vax in virtually every headline that's come out that is absurd. You know, even though he took... A taxi! By the way, I mean, listen, this is the part that becomes a challenge. In 2012, I lose my voice. For six months, I can't talk. So if you, like, I can't talk at all.

I'm struggling to talk. Six months? Six months. That's a long time. So I'm talking like this. Yeah, I don't know. That's I'm talking. Six months.

And I'm going on tour speaking. Oh my god. It's a, it's a freaking very strange time. So I'm talking like this. That's I'm talking six months. And I'm going on tour speaking. Oh my God. It's a it's a freaking very strange time. So I go to the doctor doctor, like, yeah, I hate to say this. You got cancer. I said, what? You see you got cancer. Somebody talking like I can't say. He says, let me show you. He shows. He says, that's cancerous and it's spreading. And we got to do something about him. Like, oh my gosh. He says, we got to do surgery tomorrow. I said, I can't. I got to go to Hawaii. I got a speech I'm giving to Hawaii. But I can do it on Monday. So no, it's very important.

I said, I'm going to do the speech on Hawaii. I'll come back. And so I go to Hawaii. I do the speech. I come back Monday morning, 5 a.m. they do the surgery. But I call to other doctors that they and I went and saw.

And the other doctor says, no, I don't think it's cancers, but you should do the surgery. No, I don't think it's probably going to be benign. But you know, the best thing is to handle it ASAP in case it is cancer. Okay, Monday morning five in, we go in, surgery is done, I wake up, they take it out, they call me two, three days later,

and I'm in Columbia out of all the places, and he says, hey, it's benign, you're fine. Okay, great, fantastic. But the process was, after the first person told me I got cancer, I got a second opinion. Right. When somebody tells you what you got, you get a second opinion. It's almost as if we can no longer use that philosophy of, go get a second opinion for centuries, for decades. We've been told, get a second opinion. No, you can't get a second opinion Can you imagine if you can't get a second opinion on health matter? You know, I'm gonna tell you who's gonna lead the charge against big pharma

It's going to be people who have encountered a chronic condition in their life I don't know if you know I had Lyme disease in the past I think once you have Lyme disease you kind of always have it lingering in your body But I got a late stage diagnosis of that my symptoms were Crazy anyone out there who's listening who's had Lyme disease, is like, I've been there, I know they're like, yes, because it's discredited. You know, a lot of pharmaceutical companies tell you,

oh, you have Lyme disease? What I got told here, take two weeks, and then about, extra done. I was, I had massive vertigo, I had tingling and numbness in my cheek at one point. I was like, did I have a stroke? I couldn't walk a straight line from point A to point B. I was deathly sick, muscle spasms, muscle aches,

chills, temperature deregulation. I mean, the symptoms were endless. I fixed it. I didn't fix it through big pharma, because big pharma told me, oh, this is the condition. These are the treatments. End of story. See you later.

If you still have symptoms, it's just inflammation. That's what I got told. I went through holistic doctors. I went through an individualized approach. I phoboked to physicians who wanted to talk to me about what was actually happening, and I fixed it. So anyone who's suffered with that, and we know with this vaccine,

there are a lot of groups of people who there's no clinical trials on them. Autoimmune issues, this, that, and the other thing. Those people are just saying, some of them are saying, I'm open to the vaccination, but just I need more data. Others of them are saying, my doctor is saying he's seeing X, Y, and Z and people like me.

So I'm hesitant. Others are saying I had COVID already. I was fine after two days. I don't want to do this because I have a pro-colivity toward X, Y, and Z. So in a world where there needs to be, you know, you talk about empathy and compassion with COVID You should have empathy for people who lost their lives You should have empathy for people who lost loved ones you can do that But at the same time can you have some empathy for people who don't fit inside inside your one-size-fits-all bucket and people who are Looking at their own health and saying this is has been advised to be potentially hazardous for me

And I'm healthy and I'm fine. So can you do you protect yourself and let me worry about me? That's scary that those people, where's the voice for all those people? Yeah, you know? You know, again, so where this goes to and appreciate you for sharing that, obviously that's a personal story. But you know, this goes to one thing.

This is why I trust capitalism. I just trust capitalism. Spotify is Rooting everything for Silicon Valley. Spotify is pissing these people off Spotify is making youtubers people who watch YouTube. My number one app is YouTube. It's my favorite app I love the app YouTube. It's got a lot of potential to change the world It's changed the world in many ways education All these other things

But to me Spotify is I can guarantee in their board meetings right now the name Spotify comes up regularly It comes up in Google it comes up in YouTube it comes up in Facebook it comes up in Twitter It comes up in every one of those conversations They are all talking about this one company in Sweden called Spotify, because cappals and works. I'll give you a perfect example. I go to the airport, okay, are you a UTSA free? Are you clear?

Are you also clear? I'm not clear, but I don't fly that much. Are you clear or no? Are you? You're just TSA free. Okay, so check this out. So I'm TSA free and I'm clear and I go to the airport. TSA free.

Hey, yeah, hey, get, put your mask on. I'm like, ohPRI and I'm clear and I go to the airport. TSA-PRI. Hey, hey, get put your mask on. I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm gonna put my mask on. I'm like, I forget I'm forward, I'm like, literally, I forget every time people have to tell me. Clear, I say, hey, do you mind putting a mask on? Do you need one? We have a clear mask we can give you. Here we go.

We'll give it to you. Oh, thank you so much. Okay, perfect reason why capitalism works. TSA-PRI, public company, government organization, kay, clear, private company, kay, they have to serve you, they have to service you or else they don't get business. TSA-PRI, if you tell a TSA-PRI employee,

what did you say? I'm gonna write a negative review on Yelp about TSA-PRI and Dallas. Good luck. Good work. I don't give a shit. Tell a clear, what's your name, Johnny? No problem.

I'm on a ride to Naguette Rivienne. I'm on a send an email. Oh, please. So what can I do to make it better? This has been a terrible experience. Let me make it better for you. What can I do? That's capitalism.

Capitalism is about serving you and the government organizations are like, you better listen to me because you don't have an alternative. Okay. The other day, Jen, we're going through, I don't know where we're going. Where will we last week? I don't even know where other day, Jen, we're going through, I don't know where we're going, where will we last week? I don't even know where we were. Anyways, we're going somewhere

and Jennifer's got the milk, because you know, she, baby's still six months, so she's still going through the phase of, you know, the, all the machines that she's got to travel with, but she has the milk and she puts it through. And the guy standing there, it's been 10 minutes, I don't know, you got to fly.

So excuse me, is there any way you can, how soon can you guys take a look at Jen's back? Wait, we'll let you know and walks off. I'm like, do that, I'd love to slap you upside the head like, but if I do, I'm going to jail if I do that, because you can't do that, right? That's not customer service. Let me get with you in a minute.

Let me see what I can, let me see if I can get somebody. That's TSA. So trust capitalism, and long term, as long as capitalism is this core system where people can compete in the marketplace Product prices will go lower. Products will improve websites will get better

Experiences will get better customer service will get better customer experience in every possible way Capitalism can help make your life better because they have to compete think about like these guys don't compete is When those things don't give up. I'm listening to what you're saying and I 100% agree, but my mind immediately goes to schools Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it.

Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it.

Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. you know bringing the free market into the educational system and and doing something actually doing something about that democrats come back and say well no it's just more funding that we need meantime we've been giving funding to

to schools for so long more and more more money and it doesn't produce the whole thing with Betsy divorce right exactly she got vilified if you watched anything on the left you think she's the most evil person ever she's about school vouchers and that's essentially the reason you know you asked me in the beginning if this was my hill to die on the vaccines, and I said, it's not about vaccines for me. It's about freedom. It's about empowering people.

It's about you have a kid, and you have one school in your district, and that school is failing, and you want the opportunity to take your child into a better school system, into a better school, and you can't do that. I want to empower that family to be able to do that. I want to force those bad schools to perform better by having to compete with a really good school

that now kids are flocking to. And again, the reason people on the left often oppose all of these things is because it removes power from government. And it removes power of government over you. Government then can no longer tell you what school you put your kid into. And once people realize that they don't need government for those things,

that they can rely on themselves, that they have some freedom in society, they can build their own lives, that they get to keep more of their hard-earned cash. All of those things, government becomes less and less powerful, less and less needed, and the politicians that are espousing big government, lose favor with the public. So the whole system is broken because of a lack of freedom. So I was talking education because I came out of education in television first.

Now I'm talking about vaccines. I could be talking about anything, but what I'm really talking about is freedom. That is a hill I will die on more so now because I have a two-year-old, and I'm increasingly worried about the world that he's coming into. I want him to be a free thinker.

I want him to live freely. I want him to be able to build the life he wants for himself and make his own choices for his own health and his own family. And I want people who are going to be an obstacle to be voted out of office and to get out of his way. So he has given me a great sense of motivation and power at this time. And I just think of his face and I'm like, this is worth it. Respect, respect you for doing that.

Respect you for doing that. A couple of things before we wrap bar one Megan McCain, okay, so Megan McCain She also is no longer with them. She's going through some challenges and she had she I think she openly talked about the fact that she had a mental breakdown While she was break. I don't know what it was. There was something she went through Yeah, she's like, I just can't handle this. This was like I'm worried about my the risk for my kids, all these other people, all these other things. Who would you say if you or Megan, because Megan can't stand drum.

Like that's the ideal person for view. You know, you want somebody like that and you call Trump a third grader for, call on that Chris Wallace or whatever it was and he said if Obama went through it, you didn't say anything, you know, that whole thing you talked about, who do you think could work for the view?

Is there a name or two or three that you would say? No, I think it has to be someone that, I think they're gonna wind up probably hiring someone who hates Trump, but you can't just hate Trump, like yeah, Megan McCain personally, she and her family have issues with the Trumps, and she's been very public about that, but I don't see her as someone who wouldn't give credit

to a policy if it was due. That's no good. You have to hate Trump across the board. That means everything he does is wrong, everything. I think they'll probably wind up hiring someone who works for a CNN or a company that liberals like to see conservatives. Oh, well, they're legit. They work for CNN.

There's one thing that came to mind that's on CNN that's exactly who I thought of. That's the girl with the initials. It's not in a borrow. Not in a borrow. She's a, as he cut. So I know, as he, pretty well. It's possible. I think you were a conservative, but she's on CNN.

And I think they're going, I think they're going to, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to, you'll know her with the glasses. Bless you. They're going to find someone who agrees with them most of the time, disagrees politely, and on the key issues, remember, there are key issues that liberals prioritize, okay?

So there's key, you know, Trump, the, what happened on January 6th, right now, these are hot issues. There's issues about race that you can't ask questions, you know, critical race theory, or you, the, the, their hat, the conservative they pick, and I say that in quotation marks, has to fall in line on those key issues.

They can talk about low taxes, they can quietly disagree that maybe Kamala Harris isn't a great candidate, but it has to be in a way that doesn't disrupt the narrative. It has to be a way that if there are these key issues that they're preserved and that the audience walks away feeling like, oh, this is the right, okay, well, they just rip.

This is the right way of seeing things. Anything that threatens that is going to be a problem. But Jed, this goes back to my initial question. This is sort of essentially what Pat was basically describing with the socialist Democrats and basically the Tea Party movement. Why is it have to be one unicorn person that hates you? Like, why can't you have a mega person, a rhino, a Liz Cheney,

and then have a couple of, like, why have to have one person? Because it's terrifying that the audience would walk away and actually be thinking. Why is that scary though? When I left the view, I will tell you, I got so many messages from people who said, I disagree with you, but you made me think. I disagree with you, but you changed my perception

about what a conservative is. I disagree with you, but I don't know. Maybe I think about this and this a little bit differently now. That is terrifying to a liberal establishment, old school network that has a goal. There is an agenda. You don't see anything clearly to you realize there is an agenda here.

What's the agenda? And the agenda is to have someone on there that you can claim a diversity of thought label on but actually not present diversity of thought to the audience. So it's a claim and you know, it's a facade. It's a facade, 100%. And if you do get somebody on there like me, I think Megan stood firm on conservative principles in many ways, I think that it presents a problem. It pervades that sometimes sometimes presents behind the scenes problem.

That was not the case with me. Seems to be that that was the case with her, that she was sensing from some of her. What about Abby Huntsman? Abby's very neutral. Abby and I have been in similar jobs. I don't know if you know, Abby hosted Fox and Friends Weekend before I did.

But Abby's very, she's kind of neutral. She wants to see both sides. Her brand is very much like, let's come together. What's wrong with her? I don't see. Not enough fireworks. See, the challenge is you want fireworks. But you almost want somebody.

Like, I think their ideal candidate would be somebody that created fireworks, but the audience didn't like. Didn't or did like. Didn't. Didn't like. Because they're unconvincing, man. They're unconvincing. You need to be unconvincing. You need to be unconvincing. Yes, because if you're convincing conservative, you have compelled people to fake.

Let me tell you, I have one. I have a name that if this person was on there, I think it'd be like the top show competing with everybody. If Kelly and Conway She's been on there before yeah, but I'm talking about I'm talking about if Kelly and Conway came out and said Yeah, she's signed a one-year contract to be on the view it be fireworks It'd be so uncomfortable for that can just imagine Joyce face How disturbing it would be but that to me is television that she's not interested maybe Kelly and interested. Maybe Kelly and Conway's daughter. Daughter would be, but she would be, but she would be, what's going on with those children? Yeah, she would be very,

she would be very supportive. She would be very supportive. And another person, by the way, recently, apparently Ted Cruz is a, it was at one of his kids, one of his people on the talk. Yeah, and also not supportive. What was the kid?

It was also not supportive. What about Ted Cruz's ugly wife? You're saying that because of what Trump said? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you know, I'm just making that clear clear Of course, yeah, I think everyone knows yeah, and that goes to show you too Hey, Ted your wife's ugly and your dad killed JFK. Do I have your vote? Yes, sir, mr. Trump. Thank you All right Ted Cruz lost a lot of support after that because they were like what who are you? What do you stand for exactly so? Of course, that's politicians though.

Again, when I always tell people, don't put allegiance to politicians, they will disappoint you by deleting just people in the win. And there's anything that I took from this was a lot. And I think obviously she's awesome, is not the allegiance to any political party or any political person.

Just do you and you can agree and disagree. And it's an issue thing. What a lady we got, right? What a lady we got. I? What a lady we got. I hope you guys have had fun. Yes, this was great. So tell us about bela.locals.com. Yeah, so I got tired of social media censorship.

You see what's been happening on Twitter in particular. People are getting banned. Malone was banned. Everyone's getting banned for this and that. I've had numerous friends that have just been reporting facts that get banned. Then of course, when the CDC comes out and supports it, we're like, oh, is that not this information?

What's going on here? So, there's a place called Locals that I, you know, I spoke to their reps over there. And I said, you know what, I want to create a census strip free zone where I can talk to people, where I can share information, where they can share information with me, where I don't have to worry that, you know, big brother Silicon Valley is looking over my shoulder with their agenda driven nonsense. So it's just a free, free exchange of ideas. It's something that should be happening in a free society everywhere. I invite people to ask questions. I'm going to be giving behind the scenes look that some projects that are coming up there. I'm going

to probably post a clip from us talking today over there. You guys give me one. And it's just a space where people feel like they can be free thinking people. And it's a conversation. It's what social media promised and didn't deliver. So it's billadotlocals.com. There's gonna be some family stuff. It's not all politics. It's gonna be culture, media. It's gonna be family. It's gonna be value-based.

Some stuff about my book, Dear Heartly, and what I hope for the next generation. But more than that, it's just gonna be a space where people feel like they can be themselves. And they can ask things, and I'm not going to criminalize them for asking a question. You know what it's got a bad name or rep these days is the word free thinkers. Like the word free thinker has now been hijacked. Like, oh, you're a free thinker. I don't know about this guy thinking where I'm. It's very dangerous. It's very weird, right? What's the opposite of free thinking though? Boxed in? I don't know about this guy's thinking where I'm very dangerous. It's very weird right? What's the opposite of

pre-thinking though? Boxed in? I don't know. What's the word you got now? I'm asking you. You speak English better than I do. I'm the loyalist. It's a loyalist. They're loyalists. Is that lying? Blind thinking? Blind thinker. And listen, it happens on the right too. It happens on the right too. There's people on the right who I've taken heat at ABC. I get the 4744.

I've taken heat at ABC. I've taken heat, you know, Fox News. I've taken heat for just being someone who isn't willing to toe a line. And you know what the thing is that's frustrating is what I'm doing is reflective of the average person out there. People don't just have those loyalties. They ask questions.

They sit around the dinner table. They agree, they disagree. They're not living in that DC bubble of that media elite That's they care about we only watch the media you think Americans hate each other I mean look at this office right here. We've got left right center gay straight brown black Why like we're we everyone gets along? There's another guy on the podcast jarar shout out to him people think we're freaking enemies We don't want to lunch yesterday like we hang out or buddies, it's not that serious, but the media basically portrays it's left,

it's right, it's Trump and Spide and pick a side, wrestling match, you know, paper view, AOC, Candace Owens, let's fight it out. I'd like to see that by the way, you know. That would be fascinating. You might even want to be coming off the top rope. Maybe I can, can I moderate that? I'll moderate it.

I don't feel like you're going to be moderate at all. I feel like you're jumping in. I can moderate it. You're coming in with the people's elbows. That's true. I'll have elbow pads on, hopefully. But this was a blast. Thank you Patrick for this free exchange of ideas. Yeah. Yeah. Really enjoyed it. And I know your next move is between Texas and Florida. Florida, long, if you're like lifestyle, if you're like no taxis. Here's the pitch. We want a low regulation with a governor that could potentially end up being the president of the United States and you are eight

hours away from Europe if you want to go on vacation. You're an hour away from all the Caribbean, all the Bahá'a, all that stuff. You're 45 minutes to from Cuba if you want to go to Cuba. He loves Cuba. If you want to go to Cuba, he loves Cuba. If you want to go down to South Beach, I know a couple places though. Yeah, so your husband will like it. You've got a great tan. Do you like being tan or you like being pale?

Which one of you? I don't even really have a tan. I'm Italian though, so I come out to this. Exactly. Do you like to lay out the sun? A little bit. Do you like the beach? I like my vitamin D.

I like my vitamin D, you know? Texas might not be the new day. I don't know. Gonna have to feel it out. Either way, I will my vitamin D, you know. Texas might not be the new day, I don't know. Gonna have to feel it out. Either way, I will be leaving the bad dystopian novel that is New York City, and either Texas or Florida will be a vast improvement for New York. I'm gonna ask you one question about New York City

before I go, I asked this to a lot of New Yorkers, I don't know if you've heard of their moving down here in droves. Oh, I've heard. I say, you know, scale of one to 10, 10 being New York City at its full-go system, energy, everything's amazing. One being like just full lockdown shutdown.

Where is New York City right now as of January of 2022? It's at like a four, but it's open, but people have left and everyone's walking around looking hypnotized like a steford wife like that that mass formation psychosis is real Go to you know what you think it's made up do me a favor go to Manhattan for a weekend and then come tell me what you think Every summer for a month and I'm saying this as someone who grew up in New York who had great experiences in New York who wants New York to come back Who loves the the the the way New York used to be was rebellious? It was edgy. It questioned authority. It was cool. It's not of those things. They're hypnotized. People are hypnotized and they are government loyalists at this point and they're and they're living in fear in

horrible crumbling fear. How are they going to get out of there? They're going to get out of it when the city sinks goes underwater and then they finally realize that the stuff they've been voting for is the reason that it sinks and they start voting differently if that doesn't happen It's gonna stand or water Jedadaya you to bomb Thank you Listen next time I come in here, I expect the money to be in No, we'll have a stack for you right in front of you. We'll have that Okay folks, go to bela.lobos.com

And she's all over Twitter and very active send her tweet and She will generally respond. I see how active she's on Twitter Good, thank you. Thank you. Have a meal. Take care. Yep