PBD Podcast - Jeffrey Epstein Files, Diddy Sex Assault & Rebuilding Ukraine w/ Tim Dillon | PBD Podcast | Ep. 373

Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, so we rarely do podcasts on Saturday morning, but when we get I'm running homie, look what I've become. I'm the one. Okay, so we rarely do podcasts on Saturday morning, but when we get one of these Wall Street elites from BlackRock that show up, we kinda canvass out on that opportunity, right? I mean, when we, when I was told, when I was told the great Tim Dillon is coming on Saturday, I said, forget about it. Last night, I get back chaperone for D Dilly late night, midnight. We get back. I said, we got to forgot what's

Starting point is 00:00:49 going on with BlackRock. We got to figure out what's going on with this private equity side. I mean, listen, the whole story about when I'm reading about this, you know, some people, you know, you hear and part-time comedian apparently, and you hear these stories and think about as a part-time comedian, you become one of the best in the world. You're touring in the States, in Europe. You got a big ass podcast. Everybody I ask about this private equity guy here today, everybody, and I mean everybody. It's not a lot of people, it's 100%.

Starting point is 00:01:16 Everybody loves you. And then aside from that, some of us who, we try to do our best in life and you try to pay your bills and you wanna have a good life, you wanna live a decent life. How many comedians you know that have a house in Austin, have a house in, what's the slums of, not India, the slums of the city LA, it's in Hollywood Hills.

Starting point is 00:01:41 Hollywood Hills. And by the way, name me one comedian that can say on that end they have an estate in the Southampton. Not a house, not a house, not a house, an estate in Southampton connected with all these Black Rock people. We want to get to the bottom of it today. With that being said, the great Tim Dillon is in the house. Thank you so much. I love, I love, I love investing and I love opportunities, wherever they are, wherever they are, if we're built, you know, whatever we're building.

Starting point is 00:02:09 You don't discriminate. I don't discriminate. I don't respect them. If we're doing an amusement park in Ukraine, wouldn't it be nice to have one? I think it would be nice. Oh my God. And you'll see one and you will absolutely,

Starting point is 00:02:19 you will understand that war in many, many years when you see what we will create there, and you will go, oh, okay, and hopefully it's nice. I hope it, hopefully it's lovely. It's not tacky. I hope it's nice, and it's well done, and that's all we can hope. Did you see the number?

Starting point is 00:02:37 Did you see how much they're saying Black Rock, these guys got the contract, Chase, got the contract, $410 billion to rebuild Ukraine. Yeah, well, this is the whole thing. I think people were initially kind of hoping for some type of peace agreement or negotiation. And I mean, people meeting the citizens of the country, not BlackRock, but that has been discouraged at every turn by the US, unfortunately, right? Every time there looks like there's some opening,

Starting point is 00:03:16 Tony Blair goes over from the UK or our State Department goes over. We seem to be, not Tony Blair, Boris Johnson, I apologize, we seem to be discouraging, and that can only mean to me that we have a beautiful project planned. A marina, townhouses, commercial real estate, like whatever we, whatever BlackRock has cooked up,

Starting point is 00:03:40 it's not nothing, it can't be nothing, because we've avoided an end to this war at every stage We've avoided it because we want You know and also you got to remember you the Ukraine they called the bread basket Europe, right? So a lot of farmland a lot of grain We're all that's all been promised to US corporations to a lot of it So it's it sounds like you're on the inside, you know this kind of stuff and it's great to get it from directly from folks who are dealing with these guys.

Starting point is 00:04:09 It's like getting stocked up some like Nancy Pelosi. We gotta be positive. We gotta be positive about it. Too many people are negative about war. We gotta be positive about war because at the end of the day, it's like, it's- It helps business, right? It helps lots of things.

Starting point is 00:04:24 And that's- What a way of looking at it why was I bitching while living in Iran you know what I was negative about it because that's right it's a different perspective negative on the bottom it's a down who's saying 1990 maybe that's why we needed Tim today to give us perspective on war because think about it the missiles they got build the missiles the tanks the uniforms the bullets big business It's great to see these little you know fledgling companies like Black Rocks daytree Vanguard And they get in bed with the Lockheed Martins of the world and the bowings of the world and they're building Theme parks in Ukraine Dylan world. It's gonna be great. I love it. It's going to be interesting to see for sure.

Starting point is 00:05:05 By the way, did you see, and this is slightly off topic, I wonder actually now that you're saying this, what it's actually going to end up looking like. Did you see what China did to that one city that they made it look like Shonza Lisei and Paris? Have you never seen this? Put China turns a city into Paris. China turns a city into Paris. China turns a city into Paris.

Starting point is 00:05:25 Okay, and just go to images, Rob. Matter of fact, that's the site, the one you went to. That's the site you went to click on, that first one. And check this out. Are you serious? Yeah, yeah. That's in China. So if you look at the city, go a little lower,

Starting point is 00:05:39 go a little lower, let's see. Yeah, that's not France, by the way. No, it's all Chinese side. That's China. Yeah. That's not, that's not, that's not France, by the way. Yeah. That's China. Okay. So that's exactly the replica they built in this city. Okay. And what is the city called? Rob? There's a, there's a name to this. They built as well over China launched a billion dollar Paris dupe with Eiffel tower and French architecture and why it became a ghost town. Yeah. Well, these are one of their ghost cities or ghost town. They got a lot of it. And we've seen what's going on with every grand. Tianjiu Duchenk.

Starting point is 00:06:08 Tianjiu Duchenk, an easy name to pronounce. So Tianjiu Duchenk even boasts Parisian walkways, cafes, parks, signage. But you know the French are assholes. So he's probably like, listen, stay here. Go to the Eiffel Tower. You don't got to deal with the French. Take the photos.

Starting point is 00:06:24 Who gives you shit? Just tell your friends that you were there. They didn't work for you though. We're gonna see how it happens in Ukraine. Well, they're gonna do it. They're gonna do it, you know? And we're just gonna, you know, we'll watch it happen. Are you on the inside where you're thinking about

Starting point is 00:06:35 like buying a penthouse there or something like that? Like maybe like the vacation? I look all the time because I just love real estate. I think it's funny. I love looking at it all over the world, right? I think it's great. And I do look at it over the world, right? I think it's great. And I do look at it in the Ukraine. Think about like the perfect view at a border.

Starting point is 00:06:48 Like you can actually report on what's going on, do podcasts with a backdrop. I look at it in the Ukraine. There are houses for sale right now in the Ukraine, obviously, and there's, you know, you can get a realtor on the phone, you can talk to them, and you know, obviously there's a language barrier,

Starting point is 00:07:01 but they will sell you a house. They will sell you a house there. Have a house. That's the you a house there. You have a house. Have a house. That's the thing, and that's what's great about real estate agents. I mean, I've said nasty things about them. There's some of the earth,

Starting point is 00:07:13 and they're the worst people in the world, but they will sell you a home. They don't care. There will be, you will hear the sounds of fighting in the background, you'll hear bombs in the background and they overcome that objection. You've been in more gauges before, so overcome that objection. So, so I ask you, you're not real. So I say, I say, but listen, I'm a little concerned.

Starting point is 00:07:34 I have four kids. Of course. This, this bombing our kids two years, not going to go to sleep. How do you overcome that? Well, there's no denying Mr. Betta, but this is a dynamic environment. Right. And we tend to think it's very exciting.

Starting point is 00:07:47 And I think what you are gonna find living here is that there's gonna be a big influx of investment coming here from a lot of Western countries. And you are buying at the bottom. This is what you have to look at it as. This is a great investment. You are buying at, and then it'll be a cover. Poof! And then they'll be a cover. Poof.

Starting point is 00:08:05 Don't do that. And then they'll, but you are, you know, technically that is the game there. They go, you know, the US and Russia are gonna fight, it'll be a stalemate. Russia might give up, they might not care anymore. The US is gonna flood it with money, the Western countries will flood it with money,

Starting point is 00:08:20 and you're gonna have an investment in maybe a NATO country who knows down the road. I don't think so. I tend to think that Russia is gonna stick it out there and we're gonna give up. And I already think the Ukrainians are starting, you know, they're all a little blackbilled now because the Ukrainians are actually starting to say, wait a minute, what happened? We thought America was gonna be our partner for years and years and years and years. But you know, I think a lot of people are questioning,

Starting point is 00:08:45 is the Ukraine going to be a permanent column in the Defense Department budget every single year? And what is the end game? And the domestic politics are shifting. And I think Israel and Gaza now, this is a thing. I don't think we're going to stick with them for the rest of the term. We are going to probably, I think this you know, we're gonna stick with them for the rest of the term. We are gonna probably, I think this aid package

Starting point is 00:09:09 is still stalled from my understanding. In the house, it passed in the Senate. Do you mean in the border turn, basically, to hell with the border, just Ukraine? The border and Ukraine. The thing with America. Do you think that's even gonna pass any of the foreign aid, any of it? I don't know, I don't have the insight

Starting point is 00:09:24 into whether it will or not. I do think that amongst people, the thing about being a comedian is you go around the country and meet all different people. You talk to a lot of different people. People don't understand what's going on, and they feel like they're not getting the full story. And when Kamala Harris goes, a bigger country has invaded a smaller country. And that's the way the vice president

Starting point is 00:09:47 of the United States has chosen to frame this. She goes, Russia is a bigger country and they invaded Ukraine and that's a smaller country. And that's wrong. And she's explaining it like she would explain it to a two or a three year old. Now, no matter what you think about the war, there's a tremendous context.

Starting point is 00:10:04 There's a historic context, there as a relationship between Russia and Ukraine. There are things that have been going on there since 2014. There's been fighting there. There's been problems in the northern, you know, in the Donbas region in those areas. And you know, we've gotten very little information here other than the absolute right thing to do is to give Ukraine money, which I think initially everybody agreed with like, let's help the Ukraine until we can find some resolution. And then, you know, we started realizing that the resolution wasn't going to be the plan.

Starting point is 00:10:39 Tim, when you started off doing comedy and were crushing it in New York and doing your podcast. Are you going to stand to stop or get off the topic? No, I'm right here. Did you ever think that the word Donbass would be in your vernacular? Well, you know, as a comedian, the Donbass region. I always love the world and I find it interesting and fascinating and I think it's funny. So I think it's very funny. So to me it's very funny. I live in Beverly Hills.

Starting point is 00:11:01 I live in an area where people are monsters and they make valets cry when their cars aren't there, and they scream at nannies, and they terrorize their employees. And they're very vicious people. That's how they make all this money, a lot of them. Not all of them, but a lot of them are very like, they're tough. And you wouldn't think of them as humanitarians. That wouldn't be the first word that popped in your head

Starting point is 00:11:22 when you think of Beverly Hills. These are big movie producers. These are investors. They're CEOs or whatever. Almost overnight, these people, again, who I've seen throw a fit when their Porsche was not outside of Nobu Malibu in a split second. And overnight, they all decided that the one country they

Starting point is 00:11:44 really, really felt bad for was the Ukraine. They didn't care necessarily about any of the problems in America. They rarely ever mentioned any of these areas like Detroit or upstate New York or areas that had been deindustrialized people have lost jobs there's a fentanyl crisis. Palestine over going on. Well yeah all of that stuff no one cared about it but overnight everyone in Beverly Hills how do Ukrainian flag and overnight it was the the the accepted position of some of

Starting point is 00:12:18 the worst people that I've ever met that they had decided that the one cause that they were going to invest in in a humanitarian way was Ukraine and I thought that was very funny. That kind of made me live, it was very interesting. And then this idea that if you had any questions about it, if you had any, if you said, well, wait, what, hold on, what are the, you, you, you were branded as like a Putin sympathizer or a Putin apologist.

Starting point is 00:12:42 If you ever, if you just wanted to know what was going on, you couldn't ask. So I just find all that stuff funny. I find the way that they do that pretty funny and pretty impressive actually. So we had Eric Prince on a couple of days ago from Blackwater, who obviously the guy knows a lot about this stuff.

Starting point is 00:12:59 This is David Sacks talking about what Eric Prince said. We need to bring that war to a close because all Ukraine is doing right now is destroying itself demographically. Saks talking about what Eric Prince said, we need to bring that war to a close because all Ukraine is doing right now is destroying itself demographically. They're chewing up the next generation of manpower that they really can't replace right now. They don't have enough manpower. The Western defense base is pathetic and you're not going to out conventional war.

Starting point is 00:13:20 The Russian bear an ugly piece is better than whatever their idea of an ideal war is. Freeze the lines, let them keep Crimea, Donchik, you know, all the other ones. It's not the American taxpayers obligation to spend another hundred billion dollars in Ukraine when there's been significant corruption, really nothing to show for. Yeah. By the way, it's not like Zelensky's not. They just found what $ million dollars was gone the other day Another guy stole a couple other million Zelensky's on interviews geeked out on cocaine because obviously he's getting the good cocaine now It's like what do you mean? There's a video of him just geeking out. It's he's on cocaine. Okay, Adam I know you don't believe anything. I'm just genuinely asked

Starting point is 00:14:01 From the look of it if you saw it you look like you look like that. But you're speculating him, though. I'm speculating to you. We got that. It was on Vinny.com. Is this the one? Yeah. Like he is just, like look at his mind. He's...

Starting point is 00:14:13 Do we have an audio here, Rob? Or are we just looking for the cook in? They don't have enough weapons to advance. They can only defend themselves. It was in a nightclub in some cases. They're losing territory. But my point happens to your country, if this American aid doesn't work.

Starting point is 00:14:30 This was the face of every Bitcoin guy in Miami. Losing, it crashed. So my point being, it's obviously corrupt, the money's getting stolen, but you nailed it too. It's like the BLM thing. If once BLM happened, if you weren't putting a black square, I had people like, what the hell is your problem? You're not gonna, I'm like, I'm not putting anything anywhere.

Starting point is 00:14:49 I have two Instagram posts on my Instagram right now. It's a black square in Ukraine flag. That's it. So I had, it was one of those things that it happened immediately and everybody was on the same page and I was confused. I was confused. I remember there were vice documentaries about Ukraine and how it was white supremacist

Starting point is 00:15:08 gangs, these neo-Nazi gangs were in the Ukraine and they were recruiting people in America and it was like a huge issue and there was all this corruption in Ukraine and a lot of like neo-Nazi stuff. And I was like, that's interesting. It's just that was odd and then that kind of went away. And then it was just like, you know, no, this is the, you know, we're required as Americans to, you know, essentially provide military support and money for, you know, an unknowable amount of time. And I'm personally funding the BLM movement in Ukraine. It's one black guy. But it's actually a Ukrainian guy that identifies as a black guy.

Starting point is 00:15:49 It's pretty cheap. I just give him one bullet a month. It is, you know, listen, I look at it and I say to myself, I go, you know, it's fun. It is tragic. Like I thought when this whole thing happened, it was like just cut a deal. You're from the business world.

Starting point is 00:16:04 Make a deal, make a deal, just make a deal, give him Don Boss, give him Lugansk, and give him another thing, give him a thing he didn't expect, that's fun. You know, give Putin one thing he didn't expect. One little add-on, a dead puppy, maybe. You give him a town he didn't, we do this at the closings all the time.

Starting point is 00:16:22 We go, and here's two grand grand that we have this escrow account. We have $2,000 that you overpaid your tax. We'd always do this after we told them we're charging them 40 grand. You know what I mean? We charge them 40 grand to do it alone. And then we look at them and go, and let me, but let me, let me stop crying. Let me tell you, let me tell you, because you overpaid your taxes, here's $2,000, you didn't know you had, and then all of a sudden

Starting point is 00:16:47 they're wiping the tears away and they go, this is kind of- What a noble guy you are. This is kind of nice. And then I say the same thing with Putin, give him something that he wasn't even expecting, give him a nice little town and say, here are the two things you want,

Starting point is 00:17:00 and we're throwing it a bonus for you, and end it. Sweeten the deal. Sweeten the deal. Sweeten the deal. Well, at the end of the day, they eventually have to spend money. The main question everyone's asking is, if this is gonna be like Iraq and we're gonna be doing this for the next

Starting point is 00:17:16 five, 10, 15, 20 years or not. I mean, obviously that's one of the reasons. We can't make any movies about this. No one speaks the language, no one cares. To the point. We can't do anything. There's no cultural relevance. You have to think movie. You have to think. Oh my God. I still gotta take that. No, not gonna work. The one difference is, and I would pray and hope and

Starting point is 00:17:35 being serious, we sent troops into Iraq. We sent troops into Afghanistan. We sent troops into Vietnam. No American boots on the ground yet. Well covert, you don't know. I'm saying as a policy from the United States. That is not what we're doing. Let me ask you a question. So none of this, and I'm not being the guy that, oh, well it didn't happen on the Trump. It didn't happen on the Trump.

Starting point is 00:17:56 I get that, but what was the moment where Putin was like, oh shit, I'm going in. Like what, what was that? I think it was, you know know what Kamala Harris is saying things like we want to admit Ukraine and tornado and and this is kind of the established position of the United States government is that you know there there's all the ruling class whatever you want to call them that you know you know people like Ann Applebaum who writes in the Atlantic who says it

Starting point is 00:18:21 Russia is a failed state and we need to westernize Russia. I mean, you know, people read these articles, right? People that work at the State Department, Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, wherever these people are that are around Joe Biden advising and they read this stuff and they go, the Russia is a failed state, we need to go in there and westernize Russia. There is this idea that if we encircle Russia with NATO countries, you know, it becomes an inevitability that Russia, and again, this is something that Hillary Clinton has talked about, this is not like a conspiracy theory

Starting point is 00:18:51 out of nowhere thing. So whether you agree with Putin or not, his belief is that you're not gonna put missiles in the Ukraine, you're not gonna put NATO missiles in the Ukraine in the same way that we wouldn't let China put missiles in Mexico. Right, well that's been Putin's whole thing is the encroachment of NATO and I assume you saw Tucker's interview with Putin and then the death of what's our friend Navalny Navalny Alexei Navalny what are your thoughts on that well it's it's anyone who dies it's sad you know what I mean and

Starting point is 00:19:22 I died of tuberculosis. Of course. In the Russian prison, which is a huge problem. Tuberculosis in Russia. Step down the nail, step down the nail. You know that. This is actually a very big problem, right? Tuberculosis in Russian prisons.

Starting point is 00:19:34 And my foundation does a lot of work. No, I don't know, here's the reality. I will tell you this right now, I don't know. Did the FSB get him? Could be, but I'll tell you this. Do you know, I don't know. Did the FSB get him? Could be, but I'll tell you this. Do you know, I don't know why. This guy was not, he's not a threat to Putin. He's already wasting away in an Arctic jail.

Starting point is 00:19:53 He's already in a Siberian jail. He's not gonna get out of jail and win an election. This isn't a movie. And you know, everybody in America is like, Putin got rid of him because he was a threat. Well, listen, he was no threat. And he doesn't have a huge popular support in uh... rush up by the way he doesn't i mean if you listen to russian podcasts you know people that it is not like state control media if you actually

Starting point is 00:20:14 listen to people the uh... some people like them some people respected him you know uh... nevon was uh... uh... hated it was a big anti-jew guy anti-gay he came out he was kind of a at no you know fascist if you want to callew guy, anti-gay. He came out, he was kind of an ethno, you know, fascist if you wanna call it that. A man of his times. Yeah, and he came out and him and his wife, who's a hero now, she loved him, they were all into that.

Starting point is 00:20:33 And then he, event magically, I don't know, at some point decided those views were not good. And he started espousing very Western kind of progressive views. I don't know. Now, I don't know how that happened. I don't know. But one day, this Alexi Navalny, who wrote some very controversial stuff that would not fly in today's, you know, in today's sensibilities, turned and became a big critic of the Kremlin.

Starting point is 00:21:02 And listen, there's a lot to criticize. There's corruption in the Kremlin and there's corruption critic of the Kremlin. And listen, there's a lot to criticize this corruption in the Kremlin, and there's corruption all over the place. And I'm obviously an American, rather live here. I like our corruption better, we're better at it. We've got the best corruption in the world. We've got good corruption. We're better at it, we know what we're doing.

Starting point is 00:21:15 Prony capitalism. We're a modern society, we've institutionalized corruption to a degree where as Russia's kind of an old world society, and they're still a little rough around the edges, right? That being said, I don't know why Putin goes and kills the guy now, you know? During the summit, the Munich Peace Summit. Maybe he does it to just get people to talk.

Starting point is 00:21:38 I don't see any serious anger. You do some big interviews, which we'll talk about, RFK, I've seen you do a bunch of stuff, but if you were sent to Russia, instead of Tucker Carlson, Dillon had put in on yeah You wouldn't let him go on on some history lesson When you you would ask him questions What would you do about the luxury and the mosque and marble hotels and like the life the Moscow supper clubs?

Starting point is 00:22:00 And you know really what is the elite doing and where are they going and how is so chi? and you know really what is the elite dealing and where are they going and how is Sochi as a secondary job. Well Josh you wanna know though. The thing I like about you is, is why are you so smart, why do you know this stuff? Why are you interested in this stuff? I don't think I'm so smart.

Starting point is 00:22:17 Why are you curious into this stuff? I'm curious about it because I grew up and I remember, I thought I was right about everything and I thought I was right about Iraq War And I thought I was right about Iraq War. I thought I was right about all these things, right? And I remember being very fervently pro, you know, going into Iraq and Afghanistan. This guy that believed in that idea that we needed to intervene

Starting point is 00:22:43 in these countries and change their governments and make them more democratic. This is what I believe. That was 20 years old and uncocaine, but it sounded good. Sounded great. Everything sounds good. Everything sounds good.

Starting point is 00:22:58 All the best ideas start with cocaine. Drive to Vegas. Yeah, everything was good. And then I think it was about being wrong and learning that you are being sold a version of something. No matter what you are, you know, no matter what you are consuming, you're being sold a version of it.

Starting point is 00:23:20 And I kind of realized that after the Iraq war and after I'd seen friends of mine go there and volunteer and sign up and some of them, you know, pass away. And, you know, I saw the lives of veterans that came back. They weren't getting good health care. They weren't being adequately taken care of. I saw, you know, I saw parts of America be completely ignored where 10 counties around D.C. became the wealthiest in the country. And to me and a lot of people, it seemed like, we then started becoming appropriately skeptical

Starting point is 00:23:56 of all these narratives that the government was telling us that we needed to do. Remember, after 9-11, it was essential. It was essential for our security that we needed to do. Remember, after 9-11, it was essential. It was essential for our security that we needed to do certain things. It's the same argument that's often made. You know, we've been in 25 wars in the past, I don't know, 20 years, 30 years, right? How many of them can you name? How many of them were that important to any of us and our way of life. However, we're constantly being told that it's essential that we do these things.

Starting point is 00:24:30 So I'm just curious and I think a lot, and I try to laugh at stuff, so I think a lot of it is funny. I mean, they get away with a lot. The people that create these narratives get away with a lot, and I just think it's funny the way they do it. I don't have a tremendous amount of power to change what's happening. I just think it's funny to notice it and point it out. If I can't.

Starting point is 00:24:51 I think humor does. I actually think humor has a lot of power. I think humor makes, I mean, look the stuff that, you know, that one joke Chappelle says when he gets up there and says, look, I'm all for this. And you know, women's right to choose and women's rights to get the abortion or not fully ladies, I'm with you.

Starting point is 00:25:07 But I also want to give men the choice to not have to pay. Because you chose to keep it, right? So as much as that's humor, that's kind of like, oh, OK. So I think comedy, purely out of my own level of curiosity with comedians, I love to hear from everybody, but specifically from you. The profile of a comic, There's a comic it like You think about an athlete, right? There's different kind of athletes. There's those that are fast

Starting point is 00:25:32 There's those that quick twitch, you know, they have a good first step, but they're slow But the first step is so quick there punches slow punches fast, but then they don't have a lot of power You know, they can jump high there. There's a lot of different ways you can be an athlete, right? Yeah. For comic, do comics go through a phase of like being like, dude, you know, oh, oh, hey, make me laugh. You know, like you're saying your dad would, hey, Vinny, why don't you make us laugh?

Starting point is 00:25:55 You're like, dude, I'm not a clown here. You're not gonna say just make me laugh. Do comics go through an evolution of saying, man, I'm more than just the comedian. I got a brain, I got ideas, I got thoughts. Does that ever, does a comedian ever battle with that or not necessarily? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:26:11 I think that it depends on what medium you're in, right? Like I have a podcast, so the medium I think requires you to be funny, but also requires you to have thoughts that are interesting and they're engaging. So I mean, you know, I think it depends on the medium, right? If you're a comedy writer and your job is to just write a bunch of jokes for a show, you might not have that thought. And I also never feel like I'm more than a comedian or any of that.

Starting point is 00:26:38 I just feel like I'm interested in things. I talk for two hours a week. You do as well. You talk for more than me. You figure out what things interest you. And it inevitably, that leads me kind of down the world of like current events or politics or world events or culture, wealth, people that have had a lot of money forever, it makes me laugh.

Starting point is 00:26:57 It fascinates me. I'm interested in them. And I think they're interesting people. I like that they're how cold a lot of them are. And I just like seeing a rich family in Palm Beach, not speaking, that makes me happy. When I see like four really rich people in a restaurant and no one's talking.

Starting point is 00:27:14 On the phone? I like, I like, not even on their phones, the mother's just kind of drinking wine, the father's somewhere else. And the kids are kind of sitting there very stoic. That interests me, because I come from a very loud family of screaming, yelling, messy middle class people.

Starting point is 00:27:29 So people fascinate me. I look at people, I go, they're different than I am. Not on the genetic level, but culturally they're different than I am. It's interesting. And they have way less money than you. Yeah, I don't think they have way less money. But like you look at them and you go, it's interesting there.

Starting point is 00:27:46 There's a cultural difference there. There's something about it that and that's what's fascinated me and that's interest me and I think that that's a cool thing. Yeah, Palm Beach is an interesting place. I got it. I love it. Yeah, we're having dinner Jen and I at this place called Meat Market. I'm sure you've been to it.

Starting point is 00:28:04 Of course. Yeah. And you go to this place and we're having dinner and I'm I at this place called Meat Market. I'm sure you've been to it. Of course. Yeah. And you go to this place and we're having dinner and I'm looking to my left and there's probably, no joke, probably 90 year old lady, okay? And maybe 85, but she's close to 90. Right. You can tell she's very old. She's there.

Starting point is 00:28:20 Sitting there with a 35 year old, good looking white guy. Right. And we're like, oh, it's cool. She's with a grandson and they're just probably having dinner and that's what's going on. And then all of a sudden Jen and I are like, did I hear that babe? She said babe, I heard that too.

Starting point is 00:28:37 I said babe, that's a little weird babe. So I kind of do one of these things, trying to see what the hell is going on here. And you're seeing him tell her, you're a bad girl. You're not gonna know what I'm gonna do to you tonight. No way. She's like, oh, don't tell, don't say that. There's people here, I'm like,

Starting point is 00:28:54 a 90 year old lady having a, only in Palm Beach does that happen, right? It's a fun place, man. It's an interesting place. And I'm a big fan of rich misery. I think it's very funny with people who have a lot of money, but they're still not happy I think it's very funny when people have a lot of money, but they're still not happy. And it's very funny,

Starting point is 00:29:07 because it just shows that, it really shows that life is not, really not about that, but it is very funny. And I was sitting next to a couple, and I'm just watching this couple, and they're not speaking, the whole dinner. I mean, they're saying little things, right? They're just little things about the menu.

Starting point is 00:29:22 And he's just kinda, and she's just, she's waiting to kinda unload on him. And as soon as the waiter leaves, she goes, she goes, you know, the Aspen house is for you, I don't even ski. And then he just kinda looked to the right and I just said, these people are loaded. They've got everything.

Starting point is 00:29:39 They've got everything you could ever want. They got houses in Palm Beach, houses in Aspen. And she just, and they're sitting at a table and they're miserable, and they're upset, and they're fighting like everybody else does. There's something about that Joe Rogan told me once, he got back from like, I forgot what country he was, maybe it was the Philippines or wherever he was,

Starting point is 00:29:56 and he was saying, you see people there, they have no money and they're happy. They're happy. They have not a lot of money. They have very little money. In fact, it's poverty. That is so true. They're smiling.

Starting point is 00:30:07 They're happy. They're with their families. They're happy. There's something very, very interesting to me, always about looking culturally at different things and seeing what seems to be working, what's not working. This goes back to my uncle. I've told this story a couple of times. My uncle loved watching Kings of Comedy. And Bernie Mac was his guy.

Starting point is 00:30:28 The best. Well, my uncle doesn't speak English. Interesting. And every Sunday he would come. He would say, Metti, Metti, Anash Akhessen. I want to see that man again. I want to see that man again.

Starting point is 00:30:37 And he would laugh for 30 minutes. And my dad said, Be very careful reading books, because you will never be as happy as this man when you start reading books. Because the more you learn, you lose an element of that innocence of being the happy simpleton, right? And sometimes, you know, maybe it's better to be the happy simpleton than the guy that's, you know, maybe got a house in Austin, maybe in Hollywood Hills, maybe in the States. Certainly it's better to be a simpleton and have a house in Austin.

Starting point is 00:31:03 But the point is, you know, you battle with that. But I don't know, I will tell you, I've seen people who are poor and miserable, and I've seen people that are poor and happy. I've seen people that are rich and miserable. I've seen people that are rich and happy. If you can figure out a way to be rich and happy. It's the best.

Starting point is 00:31:23 Or poor and happy, being those two places. That's a good place to be. Ignorance is bliss, is what you're saying. Rich and happy is perfect. But I'm saying it in the Assyrian way. The American is saying it in a different way. Or very good looking and dumb. I've always said that.

Starting point is 00:31:35 Hot and dumb is the best way to go. Like the surfers in California. Yes, if you're hot and smart, you know why people like you. And that'll eat at you a little bit. You go, they all just like me because I'm hot. If you're not hot and smart, that's a problem. It's own issue. If you're really dumb and not hot,

Starting point is 00:31:58 then oh God, this is really a problem, right? Horrible. But if you are hot and then stupid, you have it all. You really do. You'll never question why the door is just open for you. You'll never question why people like you. You'll never need to be seen as more. And that I think that's great too.

Starting point is 00:32:16 People in Malibu are very happy. They're very, very happy. They wake up, there's an ocean. They go to it, they go in it, they get on a board, they stand up on it. If they catch a few waves, then they come back, they eat a burrito, they have sex with their wife or whatever, and they go to bed, and it's a night, you know, that's a nice, they're not thinking about the Ukraine. No one in Malibu is thinking about the Ukraine. They don't know about the Donbass.

Starting point is 00:32:49 Unless they're fearless from Ukraine. Unless she's Ukrainian. Unless she's Ukrainian. Because you'd be thinking about her. Then they're really not thinking about her. That's right. They're really not thinking about her. I know you're hanging in Palm Beach

Starting point is 00:32:58 and I'm gonna take a stand here. I think it's disgusting. You don't like it? These 90 year old women with these hot 30 year old men. This is why I hang out with Miami. So old rich men can hang out with young hot women. That's my cup of tea right there. I like to see people in their 80s,

Starting point is 00:33:16 but the tits are still out and the face is done. And they're trying. I like to see women in their 80s try. I do, I think there's something really nice about it. It's beautiful in our society. We've created a society where for a few million dollars a year, you can kind of stay 48. They look about 48 until you get real close and you go,

Starting point is 00:33:39 oh my God. But they're about 48 until the end. You can kind of freeze yourself at 50 with the right amount're about 48 until the end. You can kind of freeze yourself at 50 with the right amount of disposable income until the end. Just a couple million bucks a year. That seems to be what we've gotten. That's interesting. Yeah, freeze it like 60.

Starting point is 00:33:53 So Adam, you wouldn't be at 43, 44 years old. You wouldn't be with like a 90 year old girl at this restaurant. She has like three months to live, but she's like, I love you Adam. And everything I have is going to you. I mean, I only have one question. It's how much is she worth and what's her life expectancy?

Starting point is 00:34:10 20 million. 20 million. Nah, that's not gonna do it for me. 20 million. She's not being me and Edith. We're gonna get married. Yeah. The Ann and Nicole Smith model.

Starting point is 00:34:18 First of all, a fun place to money. People end up in pools, you know, one of the big made-off guys ended up in his pool, one of the Epstein associates ended up in the pool Kind of a shadowy thing that goes on over there was a lot of money There's a lot of power and then you know people end up dead in their pool a lot of people end up drowning Is that the way to go? What's the best way to go if you go? How would you want to go in a boom? There's gotta be a moment where you see them,

Starting point is 00:34:45 you know, maybe they're so good you don't see them, but there's gotta be a moment, I forget which guy ended up in his pool, and you know, it doesn't even matter, people can look it up and see it. May our friend drown, is this the guy? The billionaire, Philanthagoras, Jeffrey Pocower,

Starting point is 00:34:58 oh I look accidentally drowned in his, it happens a lot for adults. Swimming pool after suffering a heart attack, there's a lot of those happening, investigating the death of prominent Bernie Madoff investors said, I'm on the, I mean, it's always that accident, random heart attack. It's just fun. It's just interesting. And you know, I feel like he's sitting there by his pool or maybe he wasn't by his pool, but like he sees them coming. There's a split second and it's probably a gardener. We've all seen Michael Clayton. They're good at what they do. These people do wet work. They call it, they go

Starting point is 00:35:28 and kill people for living. It's a living, right? It's like, I'm not judging. Adjust the job. Gigs a gig. And it's probably not great. The gig economy. It's not great people either. They're killing, right? It's probably, they sleep fine. Are you know what I mean? Killing Palm Beach investors, you're sleeping fine. It's not... What do you, can you imagine at the bar, you're like, Hey, what do you do for a living? I specialize in killing people on Palm Beach. Yeah. I killed the payoff guy. I was like,

Starting point is 00:35:51 Oh, good. Thanks. Thanks. And I always think to like, you have to see if you recede to go like, until the age, I like, listen, I got to get reimbursed. Right. Right. I bought, I bought rope. I took an Uber. Yeah. You have to do it. But so I, I think what's, what's fun about that is there, these guys have had this really amazingly charmed life and then at the very end it's tough, epsom, whatever, it happens at the very end. But there's gotta be something in their head

Starting point is 00:36:15 that just at the very end they go, well, this is kinda, I knew it was kinda gonna end like, there's no way you live that type of life and you don't think it kind of has the potential to end exactly how it's gonna go. Did you watch the Madoff movie? I think Pacino plays it, right? Yes.

Starting point is 00:36:30 By the way, I didn't even know there was the Nero Pacino one of those movie deaths, right? But did they even advertise this movie? I don't remember. I accidentally ran into this movie. It was a Netflix movie, right? Or was it in theaters? Well, HBO movie, there you go, The Wizard of Lies. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:46 That's the hero. That's the hero. Wow. And he plays Madoff. It was good. And how he dies. I thought it was good. And his sons were involved in how they were pissed off at their father, and it was not

Starting point is 00:36:56 a good guy. Well, PBD, you asked Tim initially just to kind of put a ribbon on this. Like being a comedian, how are you so smart? How are you so knowledgeable? And he kind of admitted, like, I was wrong and I had to learn and then, you know, far be it from me, 2005 second runner up of South Florida's funniest comedian over here to lecture Tim Dillon, comedy, the great Tim Dillon,

Starting point is 00:37:17 but I did own a comedy club in Miami. That's where I met our friend, Marcelo, and you see what's he's got going on these days. But I will notice, especially when someone like you sits down with a Theovon, or Brian Callan gets brought in, or whatever, once comedians start going down that rabbit hole of satire, like when you went down the rabbit hole of satire with Theovon about the Door Dash, guys,

Starting point is 00:37:37 and you know what's going on, I gotta get the Door Dash, but once you start going over that rabbit hole, and you just one-upping each other on complete sarcasm Yes, eventually you're gonna get to a nugget. That's actually true. Yeah, and you're like, oh Like the door-dash thing is there's a million examples, but you know what I'm saying like you just go sarcasm joke joke joke You go down this rabbit hole all of a sudden a nugget a truth pops up. You go, okay That's what probably happens with you. No, well, I think what happens is if you talk without constraints, you will eventually end up somewhere interesting.

Starting point is 00:38:10 Now, and a lot of times interesting things happen to be true, but if you're talking without constraints with somebody, you end up figuring out something because you're not worried about, maybe things that other people would worry about because you're just trying to be funny. So in the, you know, you just try to be funny

Starting point is 00:38:30 and then you're saying, well, what about this? What about that? What about these premises? It's all like, figure out like, what about this? What about that? What if they're doing it for this reason? What if they're doing it for that reason? And then eventually you get to it and you go,

Starting point is 00:38:40 oh, that actually sounds really plausible. Like Vinnie, you're- And it may not be, but it's, you know, that's how you get there. You talk about when you did a improv, that actually sounds really plausible. Like Vinny, you, and it may not be, but it's, you know, that's how you get there. You talk about when you did a improv nuts, because obviously you stand up when you do improv, there was like a technique. Yes, and yes.

Starting point is 00:38:52 And what is that? You never deny in the scene, cause I was doing the groundlings when I first got to LA out of the military. And it was people were like, and I'm an elephant now. And somebody's like in the scene, like, no, you can't be in the teacher would stop the whole class

Starting point is 00:39:04 and be like rule number one, never ever shut off somebody's in the scene, like no, you can't be and the teacher would stop the whole class and be like, rule number one, never ever shut off somebody's idea. Just add on top of it, like you said to them, the what if and what if this happens, then you go down that route. It's how we create terrorist groups in the Middle East. We just say we go, it's Alstabar. And then they go, no it can't be,

Starting point is 00:39:20 then we go, no it is. How dare you, you know when they're sitting in Langley, sitting in Langley, Virginia at the CIA, that's what it is, it's riffing. It's ISIS, it's ISIL, it's just riffing. And you just dump a few weapons to a couple of guys who are kinda nuts anyway and see what they do, and that's what it is.

Starting point is 00:39:37 No one in Langley can say it can't be, it can't happen. There's no way it can happen. It's ISIS and it's ISIS. It can be both guys. A comedian can be the president of the Ukraine, they go, absolutely, somebody, and it's ISIS and it's I can be both comedians to be the president of the Ukraine they go absolutely somebody in the room was I don't know about that it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it'm sure you didn't know this, but it's massive news, a life-changing type of news. Wall Street Journal wrap that CDC just gave us the report that we all need to start to adjust in the way we're living.

Starting point is 00:40:11 It's official, keyword official. We can pretty much treat COVID like the flu now. What? And it gives you the guide. So no longer CDC actually came out and told us, it's no longer the COVID. It's now just a flu. Do you think it's always been the flu?

Starting point is 00:40:29 Do you think it's always been, but it took CDC four years to figure it out? Do you think there was some craziness going on? What do you think is going on here with CDC not telling us it's the flu? You gotta realize when COVID first happened, people got very excited. And I'll tell you why,

Starting point is 00:40:44 because they had talked about it for a long time. You know, like Bill Gates had run all these like, you know, you know, you know, simulations, simulated events, like they get really excited about it. Yeah, stimulation, yeah. Yeah, they go, they go, what, what, what, well, you know, what if we had a, what if we had a, I'm a little sickness.

Starting point is 00:41:02 Now, what if we, what if you had a little shutdown? What if we had a pandemic? They thought about it. And they considered all the things that they would do if there was a pandemic. This is something that they had prepared for. They were really into this, right? This is something they would do.

Starting point is 00:41:16 They would have these drills and program and all this stuff. They go, how would we respond to a pandemic? So I think what happened when COVID happened was, you know, basically they were like, let's try out all the stuff we thought we would try out. Let's lock everyone down. Let's transfer all this money to people that are rich or ready. Let's see what they do.

Starting point is 00:41:36 Let's see what people will tolerate. Let's, you know, because I think that they were like, if not now, when. This is the epitome of the yes and. Yes and. Yes and, let's keep going. If you have prepared for this day and you've run all these simulations and you've discussed what you were gonna do

Starting point is 00:41:54 and it happens, you do it. You know, Rahm Emanuel, who was Obama's chief of staff said never let a good crisis go to waste. I mean, I'm sure we've all heard this and repeated it ad nauseam, but that's the way I think they looked at COVID. They were like, let's see what we can do here. Yep. You know, and Tim, do you think about by mind you, you know this, the timing couldn't have been perfect to, you know, last year presidency, this thing comes out of Wuhan lab, we own it, Fauci,

Starting point is 00:42:21 do you think even though now I mean, it's obvious we knew as it was happening to but now Because of the the new cycle is so fast now what for a couple years later now you're like, okay It was the flu. Yeah, didn't work Fauci lied the science was off now America's just like dude We're on to the net we have to worry about you. Nobody gives a shit even though now We know for a fact they lied the entire time meanwhile Fau, who was a mouthpiece is protected by the Secret Service. Full time, our tax dollars. He's retired and he's protected forever. We'll never be held.

Starting point is 00:42:52 What I enjoy about covid is that, of course, China's been held accountable for everything they've done, everything that happened in the virology department of the Wuhan lab, it's all been rectified. They've given their conclusion. No, China. No, they haven't. No, what? I think that's trying to be a comedian again.

Starting point is 00:43:11 Is it being facetious? Okay, gotcha. Is that the word? Is that what it is? Yes, Anne. It's trying to stimulate, is the stimulation. But I agree with what you're saying with the fact that nothing's happened to you.

Starting point is 00:43:22 The question I'm asking is the following. Here's the question I'm asking. The jokes, let's have fun with that, question I'm asking is the following. Here's the question I'm asking. The jokes, let's have fun with that, but I'm asking a real question in this part. Do you think it's always been the same, or do you think it's no longer the same because our bodies are immune to it so it can no longer fight us the way it did?

Starting point is 00:43:39 Like what do you think actually? So, I mean, I'm not, You know what I'm asking, right? I'm not a doctor. I don't know. I'm sure that You know what I'm asking, right? I'm not a doctor. I don't know. I'm sure that the original COVID variant was worse, right? It was weekends over time. How much worse?

Starting point is 00:43:52 I don't know. I think that really all depends on like, what were the numbers of COVID deaths that were purely from COVID? What were the numbers that were from another, maybe disease, fatal disease plus COVID? I don't know. I've heard lots of different people offer testimony,

Starting point is 00:44:13 people I respect that go, no, it was much more serious early on. And I imagine it was. How serious was it? Was the right way to go about it to shut everything down and have these rolling shutdowns for two years and make people overall probably less healthy and shut down national parks and shut down gyms

Starting point is 00:44:35 and shut, believe liquor stores open, like right the famous thing, you shut down churches, but you can go out and get drunk. Priorities, we gotta keep our priorities straight. That in hindsight seems silly and not the way to have handled it. I don't know, I mean, I'm not a doctor. I can't tell you whether it was more serious or not, but the response to it now in hindsight seems absurd. From a federal response, because if you look at it from a federal response, obviously Trump

Starting point is 00:45:00 started with the operation warp speed and then Biden carried it on as legacy, but some heroes were formed during COVID. And that's the beauty of what's going on in America. You have 50 states to choose from. So I was in Florida or Texas during COVID, and you would sort of not even notice it was that big of a deal. Well, it depends where you were. Exactly, but if you're in California,

Starting point is 00:45:22 or if you're in New York, God forbid you're one of those nursing homes with quorumals. So in Beverly Hills, we had no Vax mandate, we had no mask mandate, and we didn't because it's a lot of... The rich get richer. Well, it's a lot of Iranians, people like that, and they don't fall for both fetuses easily.

Starting point is 00:45:40 So it was a lot of Persian people and stuff like that. Beverly Hills kind of does its own thing. I wasn't aware of how draconian a lot of the measures were. You know, I had friends calling me going, I can't get in, they're doing temperature checks and this and that, like it's weird. Like I have to have a vax card, I have to have my thing on my phone.

Starting point is 00:45:59 For us, it was not, it was very kind of localized. Like Beverly Hills didn't have a lot of the it was just everywhere else in California a lot of a lot of a French laundry that one a lot of other places except Yeah, I mean listen it certainly was there were things in Beverly Hills were annoying too But like it was less annoying than the city of LA for example Just like California's passed a mansion tax where you have to give five percent or four percent of your house if it sells for over $5 million or 5% if it sells for over 10 million and this has to go right to the government so that they can fight homelessness

Starting point is 00:46:32 with this money. That doesn't sound like redistribution of wealth at all. It's never been defined how they're gonna do it. But you know who's exempt from it, you're gonna laugh. Malibu, Beverly Hills, okay. Manhattan Beach, like any incorporated city that is, so city of LA, city of Los Angeles, they, ULA is, you have to pay if you sell your home.

Starting point is 00:46:57 Other places like Beverly Hills or Malibu, you don't. So it is weirdly localized, but overall, you know, California and New York had bad leadership I think during COVID that bad leadership during riots They had bad leadership and a lot of people fled those states and you know, they're relocated I think I'm planning on staying I move around so much as a comedian that I'm not You know of ever quite, you know, I'd go with my accountant at the end of the year and basically figure out where I've been.

Starting point is 00:47:27 He goes, we've been here, you've been there. I have friends at Family New York, so I'll never be able to, I'm not gonna abandon New York, I'll spend time there and, and they, you know, I'm in the business of comedy, so I like it, I have great friends at Austin, I go there a lot too, so I don't know, long term,

Starting point is 00:47:42 I'll probably end up in Florida long term cause I love Florida. Well, you're welcome here anytime. Palm Beach is accepting applications. Can I get your opinion on the COVID thing? Cause you've been very outspoken about this. I think one of the things, cause you sit, when you were in the army, you were getting jabs,

Starting point is 00:47:54 boom, boom, boom, boom, boom mandates. That's one of the biggest things, you know, you said openly on the podcast, your father got the Vax and so did Melva, I believe, but that's not something that you stood for. I think it was the mandates and the painting with broad strokes where if you're old and you're unhealthy and you have comorbidities, yeah, go get the jab.

Starting point is 00:48:15 But then you see the slippery slope of like, now we need elementary school kids getting the jab. It's like, now you need to go get your 12th booster. Thanks, guy. So where do you draw the line on this? What's your take on this whole? because I remember when our other friend over here got very sick because of COVID You I mean I saw you lost 20 pounds from it because it wasn't the flu But the mandates

Starting point is 00:48:37 I mean, I still can't smell it's the best thing that's ever happened to me. Yeah, but how where do you stand on this? No, I listen my question is I'm coming from a place of curiosity. I know you're like RFA. We've had RfK on multiple times. We talked about a lot of different things. He is more paranoid on the way vaccines were used during COVID. And a lot of parents are concerned about that. I'll tell you a couple things on what I think happened with this because go to the next one, right? I mean, if Bill Gates really wanted to sell people on his, let's just say he's got a depopulation, or there's people that believe that he does.

Starting point is 00:49:12 But he says openly says. Yeah, a lot of people say the concern is there's too many people. By the way, other people who had on the podcast have said this, right? Openly, that they think there's too many people. If that's the case, I mean, you can go use scripture and say the Bible says a third of, you know, people will die and there's

Starting point is 00:49:29 gonna be such a famine that's gonna show up that a third of people could die. So Bill Gates could be a preacher and try to spin that and get people to start kind of thinking about that. But for me, I think a lot was revealed. They tried to accelerate the process of control very quickly. The last four years you saw that with what some of the things World Economic Forum was doing. And I'm convinced the right people are not going to let that happen. It's just not going to happen.

Starting point is 00:49:53 They're going to try to do it as much as possible. The only thing that we have to be careful with is the following. Is this thing goes away. People are no longer that curious to know if China was behind COVID. Why? Because it's yesterday's headache. Yep.

Starting point is 00:50:11 And we've moved on, right? So it's kind of like, like, you know, the line that Hillary Clinton uses, like when I talked to Anthony Wiener, what does she say? What's the big deal? What's the, you ever seen when she said that? The pass is in the past. The pass is in the past. And she's like, what difference does it make?

Starting point is 00:50:26 Right? What difference does it make now? But they are banking on majority of the people saying, what difference does it make? And I don't think that's the right thing. By the way, if Trump does get elected and none of those findings come out, then guess what? You didn't fulfill your campaign commitments. 100%.

Starting point is 00:50:45 If you're gonna go out there saying these people are gonna be held accountable, well you better pull it off because that's a lot of what America wants to know because if it doesn't happen, next time around, COVID comes around, if we make the same mistakes again, it's people's fault, it's the leader's fault. Are they still selling the boosters and stuff?

Starting point is 00:51:03 Oh yeah. Are they? That I like. I like that. It's just somebody's a fan of Mark. Let's be honest. As a fan of Mark, now this thing hasn't really worked in the way that anyone thought it was gonna work.

Starting point is 00:51:15 And they're still out there and they go, we've got a new one. And I love it. And by the way, no one, the terms and the COVID and the things they call COVID are confusing. And the new strains are all the time popping out. Are you up to date with all the boosters? Are you on the seventh one or the eighth one?

Starting point is 00:51:30 I got the first two shots because I was touring as a comedian. I think you can't do it. If you got to get into the UK. Is that the whole space? You couldn't do it if you weren't... Couldn't do it. Couldn't go to Canada or anything.

Starting point is 00:51:41 You couldn't go to Canada, you couldn't go to UK, you couldn't do New York City. How about in the States? The big places. You couldn't do it. LA. LA and New York. LA, people, comedians, well-known,

Starting point is 00:51:50 that we both know were like Vinnie. Do you have a fake card, a vaccine card? Even venues in red states, even venues in red states, if they were, you know, a lot of them would still require you to have the things. So I got the first two, but I never got any boosters, but I know people with the boosters and the boosters. To me, it's the ultimate comedy is that like, you know, it didn't really work and it didn't,

Starting point is 00:52:16 you know, do the thing that they said it was going to do. The only thing now they go, well, you would have been dead. That's like the last thing that, you know, in the beginning they're like, you won't get it. Then they're like, well, you will get it, you won't get sick. Then they go, no, you'll get it and get sick, but you won't get that sick. And then they go, no, no, no, you'll get it, you'll get sick and it'll probably be really bad,

Starting point is 00:52:34 but you won't die. That was the last thing they had left. So the fact that they're still selling it three years later, that Pfizer's still going, let's do it. Let's bring it to market. To me, I think that's's still going, let's do it. Let's bring it to market. To me, I think that's how they're, and can you imagine like people walking in and still wanting this, going in and going,

Starting point is 00:52:53 can I get a booster? And the people at Walmart or wherever the hell, they're getting these things, the pharmacy at CVS or like going, what? They go, no, no, I want a COVID booster in 2024. Well, it's a hot nine year olds in Palm Beach. They got to stay fit. They got to stay firm.

Starting point is 00:53:09 They got to stay friendly. Well, if you guys think about it, though, I mean, when you have Travis Kelsey, who's dating one of the most popular non singing females on the planet, doing commercials, going, hey, jab yourself. That's that keeps that that wheel going. But going back to the overpopulation thing where it's not like they're hiding it. When Bill Gates goes, yeah, you know, there's too many of us.

Starting point is 00:53:30 Do you guys remember Prince Philip that really attracted looking guy Rob? I sent you the photo of him. Prince Philip who died at 99 years old. In 2009, he said this about when he dies. He goes, in the event that he dies and I'm reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus to contribute something to solving overpopulation.

Starting point is 00:53:48 Well, I think he died as a deadly virus. Take a look at the photo right there. Go to the photo of him, Bob. Look at it. Wow. These are the people who... Well, that's in Philip. You've done it.

Starting point is 00:53:57 That's what they did in Indiana Jones. That's what he said. That's an absolute... Bob, it's a quote. Verify the quote. Verify the quote that he said that. And it's a quote from Verify the quote. Verify the quote that he said that, and it's a quote from him. Billing quotes.

Starting point is 00:54:07 I like when it's like Illuminati gloves off. You know what I mean? At least they're not hiding it. When they're at the end. They got integrity. Yeah, they're like, let me just come out and say it. He's on his deathbed. These are his last words.

Starting point is 00:54:18 He's not holding any punches back. This is what he believes. He's 99, and I've said this before, Tim. I want to know what your take is like if you think about it. You find it, right? Yeah, it's in there. Well, yeah, let's fast. Usually, Snow is against this. It says, thank you.

Starting point is 00:54:34 For that guy of that great work, we are shit for him to say in the event that I come back. I want to kill as many of you efforts as possible. So by this is the elite mindset. And going back to, so to time, if COVID, cause like you nailed it, bro, they warned us. They had all these, they had exercises. I don't know if it was the year.

Starting point is 00:54:54 It was like pandemic, something readiness, preparation and a half, it's in your face, it's projective program. They show you what they're gonna do. They had some like JV things, the swine flu, they had the monkey pot. They had other things going on. They had an exercise, but if you think, if this was a movie, if this was a movie,

Starting point is 00:55:09 think about what they got away with and everything like all the mainstream media, it was so planned. CNN had a death track ticker, like every day it was like the debt thing. So if you think about, look at what they got from it, okay? The WHO, WHO, WHO and CDC, they have all this power now they can do whatever the hell they want, right? It helped with the voting, okay? The WHO, WHO, WHO and CDC, they have all this power now,

Starting point is 00:55:25 they can do whatever the hell they want, right? It helped with the voting, mail-in voting, ramp it around the country, okay? They destroyed small businesses, and you nailed it, those deaths? I know a guy that's one of those administrators at a hospital who goes, Vinny, this is early on, Tim. He goes, if somebody came in with a,

Starting point is 00:55:40 they died from a motorcycle accident, and they tested positive with COVID, we would tell the family, hey, just, just here's some cash. We'll put that he died of COVID, not that that. Were they doing that? Man, I would have done that. I had no idea. 100% for cash. We gotta get those numbers out.

Starting point is 00:55:53 Money, I would have showed up and said, my mother died of COVID in 10 seconds. I would have said it. I had no idea they were offering envelopes of money. They were giving, they were giving cash. I'll do it now. Can we do it? Can I retroactively do it? Yeah. But

Starting point is 00:56:06 not, but if it's a movie, can we retroactively do it? I like to go on the record. I'll tell you my whole family died at Cov. Give me anything. Cut me a check. I just shot a guy. Why not? That's a form of reparations though. We should be able to do that. I mean, I think about it. What is it hurting you if on the death certificate it just says COVID instead of motorcycle, who gives a shit because they wanted to inflate the numbers, but the accountability to this day to China should scare the shit of everybody because guess what they're already saying pandemic number two. How many more warnings do you have to get to say no, I remember I was in a this, this, this little chat app called clubhouse.

Starting point is 00:56:45 It was really hot during the pandemic. It was hot for about six months. Yeah. Fizzled. Yeah. But you'd go into these rooms and it was an audio app where people would talk to each other during the pandemic, very isolated.

Starting point is 00:56:56 Everyone was like hanging out on this app. And there were people saying, we're going to have a pandemic every five years. They were peeing, they were giddy. Truly. They were giddy about it. They were saying, there was gonna have a pandemic every five years. They were peeing, they were giddy. Truly, they were giddy about it. They were saying, there was a woman on one of these things. She's like, listen, she goes, we're gonna have this every five years.

Starting point is 00:57:12 This is just the way of life now. This is what it is. And I think a lot of people got very excited, especially people in the tech industry that are like, yes, stay in your home. That's right. Use our products. Use our services.

Starting point is 00:57:22 And I think they got really excited. Maybe the people from Zoom had something to... The evolution... Gain from this. Maybe, you know, you're certainly more of a business mind than I am, but like, how many years do you think we accelerated during COVID? For example, now remote work is huge,

Starting point is 00:57:39 all these things are huge. You know, probably at least five, maybe, I mean, the big thing would be 10, but like this idea of like, how much did it speed up our, you know, you know, you know, delivery into this digital landscape? Was it, do you think that we would have gotten there in five years? Do you think we would have gotten there in two years? It's not it's not even going there America is the only country in the world that believed it that went back to it meaning like for example

Starting point is 00:58:13 I'll give you crazy stats, right? All right. So do you know what country in the world is the worst country that Have kids being born to a single mother don't know us. Yeah 40% makes sense 40% the kids are born to a single mother. Don't know. US. 40%. Makes sense. 40% of the kids are born to a single mother fatherless home. 40%, right? Do you know what that number is in India and China? No. Let me just give you the world. The world average is 7%.

Starting point is 00:58:36 India and China are 4 and 3%. Only in America will we get to 40%. And we don't sit there comparing the stats. We're like, okay, that's just the way this, I bet everywhere else is like this, right? So there's a guy that was an event being done here in Southern South Florida by Ron Biscardi that I sent Tom in an Eric to Rob. You played this clip. I texted it to you a couple of weeks ago.

Starting point is 00:58:59 We played this on a podcast. This billionaire says this whole concept of working from home and she's trying to correct them, right? You won't find it like this. Just look for a text that I sent you, Rob, and find it through the texts I've sent you and you'll see there. So he says, um, yeah, you know, uh, us is the only place that people still are not coming back to offices. Right. Everywhere else, everybody's back at offices, except in America. Interesting. So why is that?

Starting point is 00:59:27 What are we doing? Right. Maybe it's our policies. Maybe companies are accepting it. Maybe companies are afraid. More and more companies today are flat out saying you're either at the office or you're not. You're just going to get fired.

Starting point is 00:59:38 Right. Totally fine. So Musk brought that back up first. Some other other guys are bringing it up as well. To me, here's kind of what I wanna ask with this, okay? All right, so we went through a pandemic, no problem. Fair to say, America wasn't ready for it, okay? On how to react to it, literally.

Starting point is 00:59:56 That's very fair to say. Every day they're like, you wanna say something? Yeah, I'll say something. So here's what's going on. Okay, do you have anything? Okay, we'll give you another update tomorrow. Okay. Okay. All right So, hey, do you want to did you let the curve flat? Everybody was so nervous. Yeah, so here's a question

Starting point is 01:00:13 How much do you think from? 2020 say February yeah till today. How much do you think? We've actually Invested time money resources in being prepared for the next one? Nothing. That's the point. Zero.

Starting point is 01:00:30 So we just went through it. How much smarter do we get? Well, I think it's no fun to avoid the pandemic. Nobody wants that. None of these simulations that Gates or any of these guys ran involved being over the pandemic in 48 hours, by the way. None of them were like, here's how we nip this in the pandemic in 48 hours. By the way, none of them were like, here's how we nip this in the bud and move on. They were like, here's how we deal with this

Starting point is 01:00:49 incredibly devastating thing. So yeah, it doesn't seem like, and I think they say we get one every hundred years or so, or, you know, the last one was Spanish flu in 1918. So I think, you know, I think, I think, you know, we're famous as a country for moving forward Well, what's great is you know the big pharma Companies the Pfizer's the McDonald's John, you know as nonprofit companies as 501 C3's This is what they just they wanted to help us all out. They didn't make any money from all this Oh, I think the January tens of billions and hundreds of billions of dollars legacy The legacy of this is that no one, unfortunately, there's been a seed of distrust sown

Starting point is 01:01:30 into the population when it comes to the government and to big corporations and these narratives that I think can't be undone and it will take a long time. It'll take generations of people to ever, if they ever fully get that trust back, it'll take a long time because I don't think people are ready now to trust them again on a wide range of issues, but certainly not on public health. Oh, I think the trust in the government and the media right now is at an all-time high.

Starting point is 01:02:01 It feels, well, I think- It's all-time low. All-time low, yeah. They're crushing it. They are. Which is sad, because you need it. If you're going to have a function in government, you're going to have a function in media.

Starting point is 01:02:10 You need people to trust these institutions. But when they let you down over and over again, there's just, you know, what are you going to do? I will say this. I think COVID was one of the best things that ever happened to us in America. Now you're going to think, like, what the hell are you talking about right there?

Starting point is 01:02:25 Because the reason I liked it is because now everybody has to reveal their hand. Big pharma, we don't understand what they stand for. Big tech, we understand what they go for. Big government we understand where they're at. Everyone had to put their hand on and say, this is where I'm at. We saw the big tech overlords

Starting point is 01:02:40 and the virtual governments expose how they basically vote. We understand what big former is Everyone had to get revealed now kind of like what you said when you were 20 you thought you knew everything Yeah, you know, unfortunately that took me till about age 40. Yeah, and you know one that's the one Rob The oh at very stern like the the thing is this though fool me once Right shame on you fool me twice shame on me it happens again, I think it woke up. You said how the right people are always finding each other now. Here's the problem though.

Starting point is 01:03:08 But people have been woken up. Here's the problem. Let me just tell you what the problem is. This is why we're having a hard time making progress. Rob, can you pull up the video I just sent you earlier? Chuck Schumer, okay, so this is Chuck Schumer. This is why it's gonna be very hard to make progress. If you go to, you'll see I texted to you, Rob,

Starting point is 01:03:31 you should have it in your text. If you look at it, it's a clip of Chuck Schumer talking to Biden on a hot mic and you should see what he says to him. Oh, really? No, no joke. I mean, you have to see what he says to him. When, how far long ago was this? Just just play this clip and whether this is what the three

Starting point is 01:03:49 days ago, go ahead and play this clip. Watch this. Zoom in a little bit so we can see the words. Did you hear what he said? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Done it for six years now. He keeps doing it. That freaking snake. He's a snake. Joe Biden has no idea who he's talking to, by the way.

Starting point is 01:04:22 Okay. You can pause it right here, Rob. The point is, the point is if you continuously have this, we're not going to make progress on how to be prepared for the next one. No, no, yeah, and I mean this is this is how they talk. This is the thing. This is how this is how they talk, right? I mean, I think that like people do you believe this? Do you believe that's exactly like this kind of stuff happens? Exactly how they talk all the time behind closed doors and in front of you. This is how they talk. They actually have contempt for people, it seems like, because they look at it like,

Starting point is 01:05:07 you know, basically, this is, you know, people have said, you know, it's like a quote that people have used all the time, but they're like, Washington is Hollywood for ugly people or whatever. This is the way that they, it's what can be sold to you. And they're basically like, we can blame these people, we can lie, All we care about is our donors. All we care about is the money. All we care about is protecting the people that put us there that give us money. Chuck Schumer is the senator from Wall Street,

Starting point is 01:05:34 by the way, New York Senator. He has a constituency. They don't care. They don't care. This is how they talk. They are behind closed doors. They can be playing golf in Greenwich, Connecticut or Palm Beach Or wherever they are maybe they're drinking wine in Napa Valley it would Gavin Newsom. Yeah, winery. Yeah, wherever it is

Starting point is 01:05:52 They are not talking about the fentanyl crisis. They're not talking about people that don't have jobs or not talking about immigration other than to say Donors are upset They're getting Pushback how do we handle these very wealthy people that pay us money? to say, donors are upset, they're getting pushed back. How do we handle these very wealthy people that pay us money? That's really what, this is what they do.

Starting point is 01:06:13 Now the internet's ruined this whole thing now for them. I mean, imagine doing this for hundreds of years and then all of a sudden, they don't know what a hot, good luck explaining to Joe Biden what this even is. Yeah, the most important thing to me in this entire thing is when he says I'm a pro, because if you go down the rabbit hole of I'm a pro, what does that mean?

Starting point is 01:06:33 And he's a pro. Yes, what it means, that's like. I am the establishment. I've been doing this for decades, how long has he been the Senate majority or minority leader? Two decades probably. And it's, what I will say is,

Starting point is 01:06:44 is as establishment as it gets, but it works on both sides. They out because for every Chuck Schumer, there's our good friend Mitch McConnell. And like those are the neocons essentially that are going back and forth on this. And they're just playing the game of politics and there's dead people to show for it.

Starting point is 01:06:58 And there's two things. Number one, zero, zero accountability, zero. They get away with all of them. Well, because people keep voting for them in. No, no, no. People voted for a corpse named Mitch McConnell again in 2020. He's a scumbag too.

Starting point is 01:07:11 The people in Kentucky should be held accountable. People in New York should be held accountable. When I hear people like this, when I see this, and God knows what they're saying behind the closed doors, I wouldn't put it past them to be in cahoots with a different country to be like, oh, you know that disease that, you know, they'll call a flu in a couple years?

Starting point is 01:07:26 Release that shit. And we'll never hold any accountability. You don't really know. You never know. You don't know. Let it leak, let it leak. We want to get the president out. Let it leak.

Starting point is 01:07:35 Allegedly. I'm coming from a place of, who's I talking to? I was talking to a prince. I said, okay, typically when you have two people getting into a fight, you could be your kids, okay, it could be your friends, it could be your cousins, your parents, you know, whoever it is, employees. First thing you do, you bring them together and hey, your position, your position, totally get it. What do you guys agree on? You try to find a point of, you know,

Starting point is 01:08:05 where at least there's some, not necessarily middle ground. What do you actually agree on? Okay. That's right. Right? And I asked Eric, I said, so imagine we're in a room. Okay? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:08:19 I'm the mediator. You're the mediator. Anybody is the mediator. You have Schumer. Yeah. You have Pelosi. Right. You have Schumer. You have Pelosi. You have AOCs, the Obamas, whoever it is. And then on the other side, you got whoever, pick them. McConnell, whatever, the big guy.

Starting point is 01:08:35 Well, McConnell was establishment. Matt Gaetz, Donald Trump. Let's just say Matt Gaetz. Let's just say Trump. Let's just say Jim Jordan. Let's just say Jim Jordan. Let's just say Trey Gowdy. Let's just say some of these guys. And say, Jim Jordan, let's just say Trey Gowdy. Let's just say some of these guys, right?

Starting point is 01:08:45 And you ask, what do you guys agree on? Like, do you, do they both believe America is great, the greatest country in the world? They would all say yes. Here's the thing. But what does it mean? None of them are telling the truth. Your thing only works if people are being honest.

Starting point is 01:09:02 They're not ever being, they're always lying. And they're lying because- You remember that one time- They all agree on self-preservation. Exactly. They just wanna continue to rule. No term, are you convinced, are you convinced the 56 guys that started this country

Starting point is 01:09:17 were the same way? No, because it was a different time. But I think that like, you know, for example, I think there was a lot more risk than there was now, right? So in those 56 guys starting a country, there's a lot less to lose now. Like, or then, well, then you could get killed for taking a stand and starting a country.

Starting point is 01:09:41 You could England, you could lose a war. You could, you know what I mean? Like, I guess what I'm saying is a lot less to lose. You had a lot less money to lose. You have a lot more money to lose. You have a lot more control to lose. Back then you're like, did I got nothing? Like the only thing I got is freedom.

Starting point is 01:09:56 You gonna kill me? What else do I have? I'm either gonna be a slave to, you know, Britain or I'm gonna be a, you know, a free person. So the only thing is, historically, you can typically find something they have in common. But if Phil is gonna say, Kobe, you hate Shaq Shaq, you hate Kobe, do you want to win another chip? Do you want to be better than Karim? Do you want to go into history books as a most dominant center of

Starting point is 01:10:18 all time? Kobe, do you want to pass up MJ? I do. Can we make this work? The problem with a lot of high up establishment people on both sides of the aisle is if you said, what are the things we agree on, it would be like enslaving the population and love of Satan. It's so like, undeniable. So that's unfortunately, and then they then they go okay let's work from

Starting point is 01:10:45 there let's build now we can build. Okay so that's the case that's the case I want you to be the strategist that you are politically because a lot of people that follow your content or they follow us or they follow a lot of these other concepts and they're common sense people that would like to be free have fun enjoy their time with their family you, go out there and do their thing. What do you think is the solution to keep? Disconnect, disconnect. You think that's the solution?

Starting point is 01:11:13 Well, I don't mean disconnect in the sense of like, you know, become like a hermit and you know, go underground or whatever. I mean, don't believe things that don't make sense to you. This is I think very important. If something does not make sense to you, don't believe things that don't make sense to you. This is, I think, very important. If something does not make sense to you, don't believe it. Don't make these logical, crazy leaps in your mind. Now people are asking you to believe things that are, they're, you know, if somebody says a man can get pregnant,

Starting point is 01:11:38 we know that's not the case. Some people say that, they're sorry, they're no longer on YouTube. Tim, stop, I apologize. Tim, Tim. But so that's not the case, right? So if somebody has to explain something to you in a three-hour lecture, okay,

Starting point is 01:11:53 in a field of study that has only existed for 20 or 30 years, you have to be, I think, appropriately skeptical of all that stuff, right? You have to look at it and go, that doesn't make any sense to me. If people, if overnight you were told that you owe the Ukraine a percentage of your tax dollars forever, that doesn't make sense to you. You're right.

Starting point is 01:12:19 You're correct. You know, if overnight people are saying, we're rewriting every biology book in America to say that biological sex and gender have nothing to do with each other. And you know, that seems extreme, it doesn't make any sense. You're right. If people say like, we're not gonna have a border

Starting point is 01:12:37 and we're gonna let people come in, no matter who they are. Don't fight it, just agree with them. Where they're from. Yeah, at the end of the day, it's like, you have to trust your own intuition. That doesn't mean you know everything, that doesn't mean you're a doctor,

Starting point is 01:12:48 it doesn't mean you're a lawyer, it doesn't mean you're a scientist. What it does mean is that you have common sense that if people are asking you to completely throw away all of your common sense, something's wrong. I'm asking a different question. I'm asking a different question. The question I'm asking is,

Starting point is 01:13:02 sincere, would you like America to stay as the greatest country in the world? Would you? You would like that. Okay, so how many of yous are out there that are influential in different space? Business, politics, comedy, Hollywood. How many of you, your level of influence are out there? What number do you think it is?

Starting point is 01:13:20 I have no idea. What do you think it is? I actually think, let's put a number to it. What do you think that number is? Give me a number. How many total followers you got? 10 million, 15 million, 20 million? We have a lot. I don't, I don't know. I mean, you know, we've, we've got a million a week on the podcast. It's close to a million on Instagram. We've got close to a million on Twitter and I have people that come by tickets and we've sold. I think you're five million plus. Yeah,

Starting point is 01:13:39 sure. Okay. So how many people do you think that are like you, that love America, that wanna be left alone, that have five million or more, that are willing to do something about it, that if we were to hold a meeting and they're all willing to attend, how many things would be there in that room? What do you think that number is? Yeah, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:13:57 And I don't know. I don't know. Can we guesstimate and say a thousand? Okay, that's a fair number. Is that a fair number? Yeah, okay, let's say it say a thousand? Okay, that's a fair number. Is that a fair number? Yeah, okay, let's say it's a thousand. So let's just say we actually do this. And we come together and we have this meeting

Starting point is 01:14:12 of these thousand people that say, okay, what can we do to unite and kind of figure something out? What do you think would be an approach to take to prevent these guys from ruining the greatest nation in the world? Well, people would have to get involved in the political process, it seems like, right? People would have to run for things. They'd have to want to Or they'd have to get into the media game, you know, you know, they'd have to come up with

Starting point is 01:14:43 You know game, you know, they'd have to come up with institutions that are media, you know, that provide information to people or they'd have to run for something. Those seem to be the only two ways outside of like some violent revolution, right? It seems to be information and it seems to be institutional power. Those are the two things that, you know, the elite have always controlled. They've controlled information. They've controlled institutional power and institutional power, controls military, police, everything like that.

Starting point is 01:15:09 So I mean, if you're going to non-violently change a country, it seems like the two ways to do it would be institutional power, which is elections and running and trying to attain some level of power. Or it would be some type of media strategy where you pull your money together you start these Organizations and you start trying to get out the information that you think is vital for people to have I mean those are the only two things Build some schools that aren't teaching what the left look at what China is doing. Yeah, just do what China is doing

Starting point is 01:15:38 Literally, I'm not even kidding Everyone's afraid of China, you know, and I understand, I have a godson who's Chinese, he's three and I watch him closely because I know. I do. He could be a spy is what you're saying. Well, he's, you know, culturally it's interesting to. Yeah, I'm with you on that. I see, but.

Starting point is 01:15:58 He's maybe born in a lab in Wuhan. I would have never taken a white godson. I want, you know what I mean? Discuss that. You need someone. DEI in the Tim Dillon household. I want high-dagent Japanese, Chinese. That was a request.

Starting point is 01:16:08 Yes, high-end. The Palm Beach of Asians. Yeah, so the reality is what they're doing, they're going around the world and they're building schools and they have this Belt and Road Initiative and what they're doing, and Kennedy explains this, is they're going around and they're saying, we're gonna teach our values and we're gonna invest in communities and we're

Starting point is 01:16:28 gonna build schools and we're gonna teach the things that we believe. In America, and this is what RFK has said, has always done this with a gun. We've always done this by saying we're gonna knock over a government and we're going to install a government and we're gonna do this all with military power. China has been doing it with soft power by saying we're building schools, we're building roads, we're doing these things, and the end goal is the same.

Starting point is 01:16:53 It's control, it's imperialism, it's we want territory, we want people to agree with us. But they're doing it with education. I think that's probably the way you have to do it, is get people good information. The problem is what do you do with all the information? What is a guy that can barely afford a house whose kids are failing out of school,

Starting point is 01:17:17 he can't afford tutors, he's struggling. What is he gonna do about fixing the CIA? I mean, unfortunately, to most people, that's a very, you know, that's a big ask, right? We've got 17 intelligence agencies in America. You know, we have a lot of these power factions been around for a very long time. It seems like information is big

Starting point is 01:17:42 because then people can be skeptical of these edicts that come down from the gun. And it's working, it's working. You can already see, they don't look happy by the, the Chuck Schumer's of the world. They don't look, they look like they're under the gun for the first time. They look like they're under pressure.

Starting point is 01:17:59 They seem to be running around, scurrying around a little bit, because they- Worried about getting caught? They feel like they're worried about getting caught. They don't like the pressure. It seems like I think it is working. I think the internet is, you know, woke up a lot of-

Starting point is 01:18:15 They're just gonna retire. They're 80 plus years old. They'll pull a McConnell. But I'm gonna give you a little pushback on the China thing. I guess it just comes down to whether you like actual aggression or passive aggressiveness. Because China is kind of like the the silent friend who talks shit behind your back

Starting point is 01:18:33 where America's like, listen motherfucker, let me tell you what's going on, or at least used to be. I rather, but a lot of people are rather passive aggressive. Yes, well, China. They've China's done a very great job of, you know, China, you know, if you look at like the Israel thing, right? I mean, listen, you know, we have a huge, you know, commingling of interests with Israel, right? China has been able to take more of a diplomatic,

Starting point is 01:19:00 even-handed position in that, right? Russia, Ukraine Ukraine China has kind of been able to take Because they have no morals or values or principles is just the sustainability of the CCP They don't get there well other than loading countries with debt Including themselves loaded a lot of countries with no doubt. It's but at least we own it bro. This is American debt It's proud good. Oh, yeah,, our debt bleeds red white and blue buddy If you not no call me red look at it from the perspective of people that are living out there on earth, right? Not necessarily an American perspective. We all have an American perspective We want America to be the strongest country, but let's say you're living in the Middle East

Starting point is 01:19:39 Who are you looking at right now as a future America or China? I'll answer the question China I talked to people in the Middle East. They are not looking at the United States is the future. America or China, I'll answer the question, China. I talk to people in the Middle East. They are not looking at the United States as the future. They are looking at China as the future. And one of the reasons they feel that they're putting, number one, it's the population, economy, whatever. They have a billion people. They have, you know, they've shown a tremendous ability to scale an economy that, you know, is outperforming ours

Starting point is 01:20:06 in some metrics, not all of them. But they also are looking at China, and this is again, you know, we don't have to agree with this. They're looking at China as a more even-handed broker of their interests than the United States. Well, Tim, it all depends on which countries you're talking to in the Middle East, because there's certainly, and this isn't even a joke,

Starting point is 01:20:26 there's gonna be a clash of cultures and a clash of civilizations. And it's- But do we, is that avoidable? Isn't it avoidable? I don't think it's avoidable. I think it's inevitable and I think it's happening. Hear me out.

Starting point is 01:20:36 So it comes down to polarity. And there's a schism that's happening in the world right now. There's order and chaos, or there's safety or freedom. So if you look in like when Tucker did his, you know, expose in the Russian beautiful train systems, look how orderly and beautiful it is. It's like, well, if you say anything

Starting point is 01:20:58 or even do a little graffiti thing, no one will ever hear from you again, Navalny. But in America, we pride ourselves, or in the West, we pride ourselves on freedoms. But there's slippery slopes in each one. Too much freedom in America. You end up like in Oregon over here where they decriminalize and legalize all drugs.

Starting point is 01:21:14 They just reverse that, ah, maybe a little too much freedom guy, but it was a little too much order and a little too much safety. Like in Saudi Arabia, if you speak out against MBS, if you're Jamal Khashoggi, you end up dead. So there needs to be a balance of the freedom and the order and the safety. It's a big world.

Starting point is 01:21:31 Not everyone's gonna have the values of America. No doubt. That's why we can't, we gotta stop doing regime change and imposing democracy. Imposing our values all over the world seems to be a foolhardy errand. And I just think that a lot of people look at the state of our country

Starting point is 01:21:46 and they don't think we have much to export right now. I'm not a fan of the way Vladimir Putin runs Russia. At the end of the day, there's a lot of people that are. They're Russians, they live there. It's not my business. When I was a kid, we used to hear mind your own business all the time. We never hear it now.

Starting point is 01:22:03 No kid's ever been told that. Our parents used to say mind your own business all the time. We never hear it now. No kids ever been told that. Our parents used to say mind your own business. Shut up, who cares? Why is this woman across the street leaving the guy, hey mind your own business? We heard it all the time, all the time. Somewhere along the way, everybody's business became our business.

Starting point is 01:22:20 What I mean by that is that I don't think it's my job to tell people in Russia, who've, who've, this is a society that's been around for eight, nine hundred thousand years, whatever it is. It's not my job to tell them to have American values, liberal values, Western values, whatever. If they want to have that, that needs to be something internal to them. I don't think it's our job to fight a proxy war with Russia through the Ukraine to make Russia depose Vladimir Putin and and install a pro-western guy. If that's the plan here

Starting point is 01:22:55 because it doesn't work, it didn't work. You saw how we left Afghanistan. It doesn't work. So to me, I just look at it and I go, I have no interest in a class, a clash of civilizations. I have an interest in a strong America. When you say clash of civilizations, I then feel like we are out there selling our version of the world to people. And then other people are selling their version of the world.

Starting point is 01:23:24 And then we're all fighting Yeah, and paying money and we're sacrificing lives I don't think that needs to happen. So I would love to avoid that if we could and You know, can we focus on America? You know the the comment about people in middle east thinking China's uh You know the future instead of us it depends on what media they're watching depends on what news they're watching comment about people in Middle East thinking China's, you know, the future instead of US, it depends on what media they're watching, depends on what news they're watching, depends on what they're,

Starting point is 01:23:50 China is right now, they have a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure. Do you know how big China's stock market is? The size of Nvidia, right? Right, no, for sure. They're, That's it, two trillion dollars? They're, size of it. $2 trillion. They're size of one

Starting point is 01:24:06 Nvidia is the size of China's stock market. The Nvidia's market cap. Yes. $2 trillion. Got you. The Chinese population does not believe in their stock market. Do you know where they have 70% of their wealth? Real estate. All real estate. Yeah. They, they, they trust real estate. They do not trust stock market in China at all in China. So, you know, China still got a lot of issues to deal with with the problems that they're having their age. Well, they don't have a lot of young the oldest country in the world or one of the oldest countries in the world, the bigger ones, they are the oldest country in the world. I think the average age is like, you know, they're in the top three or top five 38 and a half years old 39 years old

Starting point is 01:24:46 The average citizen is 39 years old. I think US right now is 29 and a half was last year's numbers and India's one of the younger is on 27 28. There you go So, but what number is that? That's in 2020 you got the 37 years old. They go. Yeah, so so they're dealing with this They're trying to get kids back Immigrant kids to be younger and having more of them their immigration then net migration is bad people are leaving They're they're afraid to leave they're trying to find ways to leave the ending of our border somehow Yeah, I'm not even saying that they're correct When they say the impression that they have impression there's a short option Okay, and I mean that that that's not only in the Middle East,

Starting point is 01:25:26 it's in parts of Europe, in parts of Asia, there is that Eastern sphere of Russia and China. And a lot of people would say that we would be smart to not push Russia and China together. Which we're doing. Which we're doing. No, no, we've already done. Our foreign policy has pushed them together.

Starting point is 01:25:46 So that to me seems like not a smart move, except for one thing that happened the last couple of weeks. One thing that happens last couple of weeks. And then we'll go into the next story. I want to talk about something more important like PDD and Meek Mill. Cause that's, that's, that's right. China's, China's, let me stand this issue though. So last two weeks ago, US imposed right after they killed Navalny died

Starting point is 01:26:09 or got killed, whatever the story you believe in, US imposed 500 sanctions on China. Okay, I'm sorry, 500 sanctions on Russia. Do you know what China immediately did? Do you know where the top four banks in the world are? All in China. Banks, banks, right? Right, out where the top four banks in the world are? All in China. Bank. HSBC. Right. Right. Yeah. Out of the four banks, do you know how many of the banks stopped doing business with Russia? Three out of four. She dropped. Yeah. Three out of four banks,

Starting point is 01:26:36 right there. China's banks are finally getting scared by the West. They stopped doing only one of them is left as doing business as the agricultural one that I believe is still doing business. The other three are like, nope, three out of the four banks that they go dig except because I'm saying sanctions, Russian finance institution to help allows you. So, so this is what, what, what Tim is talking about right now. There is a little bit of a division where like what China is trying to say is we're not for killing your opponent. I that's right.

Starting point is 01:27:04 Like publicly cause we'll do it in private, no problem. But it won't be announced. But this could be, you know, they did have meetings together. They've had events together. They've had some of this stuff together. Well, they have bricks. I mean, that's kind of part of the whole narrative here. I get what I'm saying right now is when you do something like this,

Starting point is 01:27:20 is this, and this is public, it's not like it's private. You cannot accept payments. Are you kidding me? This is pretty wild. That's 500 sanctions we put on Russia. And by the way, do you know what's the first thing Trump's planning on doing? When he come on, the first things he wants to do?

Starting point is 01:27:36 Bring back all the sanctions towards Iran, all the stuff he was doing with China. He's bringing that back. So US is taking, the left is taking the approach Trump took with China and Iran, US is taking that with Russia is what they're doing. Again, going back to the proxy war, but you know, it's going to be interesting to see what happens. I watched a guy today who was speaking at CPAC, a clip today, that said the next 10 months are gonna be

Starting point is 01:28:06 the wildest 10 months you're going to see, okay? With games, manipulation, stuff that we're not even, they haven't even launched yet. That's gonna be happening, will happen, but you know, it's, I think to them, you know what this is? If the left's motives, Chuck Schumer, what he said, if all of this stuff is true, guess what they can't do.

Starting point is 01:28:29 Let me tell you what they cannot do. You can't lose this game. So think elections as, let's just say, game seven, right? First to four wins, you know? So they've been, since Obama got in after Bush, they won one game, one term. They won two games, two terms. They lost one. So it's two to one. Okay. Cause Trump won. They won one, which is Biden. They're now three to one playoffs. They win this. It's over. They win it. Right. This important if they lose this guess what it is 3 2 well

Starting point is 01:29:07 Thank God they have a great candidate That's right. You're right. He's the go. Yeah, no one's ever got 81 million votes. So you mean you know, I Don't know how they're gonna run this guy. I I'm hoping they they I want a little may surprise They pull them and throw somebody else in but Newsom would tank Michelle Obama won't do it and there's no I mean in theory. She would be good maybe but I don't know if in practicality I don't know who they got I don't know who they got Yeah, we got we got a little bet going on around here. I don't know who they got They're gonna pull by I think they're going with with the corpse. I talked to people at Palm Beach,

Starting point is 01:29:46 in Bar-a-Lago people who believe they're gonna pull him in May. This is not a conspiracy theory. Well, I mean, it's something that's... Well, if it's around Bar-a-Lago, I'm sure. But there are people that believe, there are people that genuinely believe Trump is not running against Biden.

Starting point is 01:30:00 They're in his campaign. They believe that he's running against someone else. It might be Gavin Newsom. They don't know they believe Biden gets pulled in May. Why May? Because our friend Tom was usually here. He thinks it's gonna be in August. Which I think is-

Starting point is 01:30:15 Well, when is their convention? 13 August. It's the August 13th. No, so I think- Which I feel is like- The reason they would pull him in- Incredibly late in the game. The reason they would pull him in May

Starting point is 01:30:23 is because then you had right into the summer No one cares people are not paying as much attention. I'll be in making of this. Fine his The person wouldn't get a ton of scrutiny over the summer They would be kind of crowned at the convention then they got a few months and then boom there you go by the way Did you see the juicy? Spider-man Did you see Spider-Man? Yeah. Oh, they are trying to get in.

Starting point is 01:30:48 One of the movies in Spider-Man, they showed Michelle Obama 20, but it didn't say the number. Oh, really? Yeah, they had Michelle Obama in the movie, Spider-Man in the back, like you can miss this. Oh, really? Yeah, it's one of these years.

Starting point is 01:31:00 I don't think she wants to do it. Spider-Man movie Easter Egg. Don't you think she has to? How would Spider-Man's movie Easter Egg tease Michelle Obama candidacy? Oh, weird. But it only shows 20. It doesn't show the other numbers. So if you go a little lower, maybe control F20. If you control F20, it'll come up, Rob.

Starting point is 01:31:18 Can you control F20? There you go. Boom. Hit it again. Bob will go one more time right there. So in a blink, you'll miss it in a moment across the spider verse. We see a sticker on the wall of Miles room that reads Michelle Obama 20, but you don't see the other other numbers. So, but what they're basically saying is leave it to your imagination. We've got 76 more years to run Michelle Obama until 2100 with the numbers change.

Starting point is 01:31:44 But what's him?, let's be honest, unless he has a body double or they drug him up, there's absolutely no way he can go up against Trump. They can't run him. They cannot do it. I fully agree with all you guys. Well, no, they're gonna run this corpse. And they're gonna drug him up and he's running.

Starting point is 01:32:02 He's still their guy. And I get it, because numbers go live. I'm looking at what's in front of me. My thing is, eating ice cream and campaigning. And sanity, dementia, Alzheimer's, whatever the hell is going on, the odds are, that's the Vegas odds, we don't think, we're awake, but besides Gavin,

Starting point is 01:32:21 because that's the only one that's out, going to all these debates, Republican, national, he's everywhere, that little snake doing his, no, he's revering Biden. Michelle, I don't think she wants to, I think it's, especially because Obama and them are running the show, hey, you have to, for the sake of the party,

Starting point is 01:32:38 I know you're selling out arena, talking about God knows what, we need you. Get your ass in there, give us this four years. He doesn't believe that. He doesn't, I, yeah. It's not like I'm super excited about campaigning for Biden. I just think that they're gonna run this guy. Would you vote for Michelle Obama instead of Trump?

Starting point is 01:32:55 I'm not voting for anyone on the left these days. I think it's all a joke. I love that attitude. But I will tell you who's making some waves and his numbers are going up and up and up and up and up and his name is Bobby Kennedy and he's 20 to one now. No, they'll never run him. They'll never run him.

Starting point is 01:33:08 Who do you mean they're never gonna run him? The Democratic one. Well, no, he's gonna run as an independent. He'll never win. He'll never win. He'll never win. Well, according to the odds, he's got a 20 to one shot. Michelle, look at what Michelle is.

Starting point is 01:33:19 I'm just following the money here, guys. It's gonna be Trump unless they throw a, there's some type of, I don't know, you know, there's gotta be like an October surprise that's really, like you said, very exciting. But I think if they run by and they lose, I don't know who they could run where I would, I mean, on paper, Michelle's a good candidate.

Starting point is 01:33:42 We don't know how she would do. You just don't know. You don't know. You know, on paper, she's a good candidate. We don't know how she would do. You just don't know. You don't know. On paper, she's a good candidate. We don't know. The other people, there's no name recognition with like Gretchen Whitmer or... These are VP candidates that are servicing.

Starting point is 01:33:58 But I gotta ask you this. Yeah. Look, Ross Perot, 1992, made some ways as a third party candidate. This guy was five foot forward. He talked like this and he kind of kind of he was kind of like a John. It kind of can't. Bobby Kennedy is a legit dude. Well, other than his raspy voice, I mean, you've had him on the podcast.

Starting point is 01:34:17 Great podcast with him and Cheryl, even Theo Vaughn said that he would vote for a minute. He all like him. Why don't you think he's got a chance? Because he the numbers are not at all trending in the direction where you would put him in the running. He's not, if you look at the polls, I mean, this is not, I mean, just as an analyst, again, I like him

Starting point is 01:34:37 and I think he would probably be a really good president as much as you can judge anyone for a job, right? You know, you're hiring Gary Gary V said wants hiring is guessing. He told that he said that to me and that kind of made sense, I guess. But I don't think that you could like predict how he, like against Trump, you know, and whoever else in the Democrat.

Starting point is 01:35:12 Do you see RFK winning against Trump? No. No. I think if you get those three guys, the old and senile versus the old and angry and versus the fit and vocally challenged RFK, if you get them on a debate stage I Truly think that RFK is gonna make noise and waves and call out both sides I feel like there's such I mean a yearning in this country for a third-party candidate

Starting point is 01:35:35 I think that's that will agree with me here. Do you see any way you're putting your money on RFK beating Trump? There's not there is not a possibility Patrick would not put a dollar on that. He's the only candidate that actually has a favorable approval rate. By the way, and it's great. I mean, you, you ought to, you ought to go bet on this. If you 20 to one put a thousand dollars, you want 20 grand. You guys, you know what? Maybe I like it. I like it. Yeah. There's nobody here. I don't think I like the guy. I don't think anybody here doesn't

Starting point is 01:36:03 like them. I think the part that you have to be thinking about is the following. So, remember how Vivek, everybody would ask and say, how the hell is Vivek only at 7% or 8%? This is so weird. Why is he at 7% or 8%? Because his message was 100% the same message as Trump's message, which means what? If there was no

Starting point is 01:36:26 Trump, Vivek would be at 52%, right? So you have no idea how curious I am where Vivek would be in 2028. I am so curious to see where he would be in 2028 because maybe it's because of mathematical side of me where I just kind of want to see, is that really the reasoning because establishment, he's not an establishment. I don't think that's the only reasoning, right? You got to look at across the board, right? It's maybe religion, maybe background, maybe skin color. There's all of that. Name recognition. How long do we know this person? How long have we seen them? Do we have any level of trust? Do we, you know, I think it's hard to, you know. Well, I mean, I fully agree with you.

Starting point is 01:37:07 We've known Vivek's name for maybe 24 months and that's generous. The Kennedy name is as everlasting and as great of an American name. You're still gonna go back to it? I'm gonna go to the next door. No, no, what I'm saying is we've known Trump for 50 years. Right.

Starting point is 01:37:22 Biden's been a politician 50 years, it's name recognition. Then guess what then? Vive vet doesn't have it yet But you ready for this is all the Michelle the Obama name You know those 81 million votes that Biden got they're gonna go for her 1,000% she will not have a right. She won't she won't do it. I don't I don't believe her in the as I don't think she has I think she has to I think she has to for the part. I don't think she has an interest in it. Do you want to bet? I wonder if you believe this is a dark business, here's what you have to believe.

Starting point is 01:37:54 How much you think Michelle cares about her and her husband's legacy? A good amount. What's a good amount? Is that a number one? Is that a top three? Do they value their legacy more than their freedom? Yes, but they might feel that this tarnishes their legacy, because by the way, here's the other thing. She doesn't beat Trump. Sorry. She doesn't.

Starting point is 01:38:14 Michelle Obama doesn't beat Trump in the general. This is such a cooked up idea. I even have fallen prey to it myself, but I don't know if she wins. I think it might be the best chance, but still, do you see Michelle? And I mean, I asked you again, you're a business guy. Are you putting money on Michelle beating Trump? No, that's not the question though.

Starting point is 01:38:39 It's not the question. The question is the following. Do you believe legacy is the most important thing to them or the life they live, the lifestyle of the rich and famous celebrity Hollywood George Clooney? What do you think they value the most? The nation, but I do think legacy is a big consideration. Okay, do you think they became presidents by themselves

Starting point is 01:39:00 or a lot of people? A lot of people. Okay, so do you think a certain set of puppet masters helped them become presidents? Thousand percent. Great. Then guess what? They're owned. Then if you're owned, then the people who own are gonna come knocking on the door. And do you think in the political space, not everything you own behaves the way you want. But watch this. But let's stay on this topic here. Let's remember how this whole thing you were saying, conversation starts with this and it leads somewhere, right?

Starting point is 01:39:27 Yeah, yeah. The whole thing comedy curiosity. Okay, fair. But do you think the people who owned and pushed have intel on them that nobody else has access to, including the world? Absolutely. You are not fair enough.

Starting point is 01:39:43 So what if that meeting, do you think a meeting would take place where the meeting goes like this? Michelle, we're gonna need you to run. And she's gonna fight it, and he's gonna fight it. And then it's gonna say, we don't wanna make this bad and ugly, we want this thing to be civil, we don't want all the information to come out,

Starting point is 01:40:04 we've worked very hard to protect your legacy. I think the other people will not be happy because it's always gonna be, the other people are not gonna be happy because they helped you get there. They want you to run and they're willing to back you up and they're gonna put $2 billion up and you're gonna be running for four years.

Starting point is 01:40:20 We can put somebody else after that but for now we're gonna need you to run. Do you think that kind of a meeting has taken place? I think that the problem I have with that kind of meeting number one is I Think that whatever they have on the Obamas would severely damage the Democratic Party. I don't think They would leak stuff that would damage the Democratic Party if these are Democratic power brokers. I also don't know how convinced they are that Michelle Obama would be Trump. I'm not convinced. I just am not convinced. I

Starting point is 01:40:54 think it might, you know, on paper it looks good, but think about it. Have we ever seen Michelle Obama in any type of political debate? Have we ever, we've never seen her as a politician. No. The reason she's so popular is because she's never gotten into the muck. When they go low, we go high. All that. She's been able to have the luxury of doing that because she's been a political spouse. If she becomes a politician, I mean, Hillary Clinton lost twice to a first term senator. Michelle's more likable than Hillary. Hillary's a least liked person in American politics.

Starting point is 01:41:29 For sure, but Michelle has the advantage of never having been a politician. She's a politician. She hasn't had to get down and dirty. She hasn't had to ever really, she's never been back against the wall fighting. Trump won, he's never been, you know, back against the wall fighting Trump. Trump won. He had never been a politician. You know, he had never done that. Trump is a much different character than Michelle.

Starting point is 01:41:51 Trump is a monster in a good way. I mean, he's been in every rap song ever. He had the apprentice season. Let me tell you, so listen, are you convinced that Dems are going to give up this one loss and go three to two and let Trump run? No, I fully do not think they want to put Newsome ahead of Michelle and I'm shocked that Gavin Newsom's odds are higher than Michelle's. I don't get it. So think about it and Tim, to go to your point, but to go a little bit backwards.

Starting point is 01:42:19 She was recently on the on purpose podcast where she said, I am terrified about what could possibly happen if Trump wins in 2024. was recently on the on purpose podcast where she said, I am terrified about what could possibly happen if Trump wins in 2024. It's basically saying, yeah, that's every Democrat. No, no, no, no. But for her to be saying, hold on, there's, I'm worried. She's terrified. That means she's, she's basically saying she's losing sleep because of this threat. These are just little nuggets that doesn't mean she's gonna run though. We'll see. Let's go to the next story. We'll see. Let's go to the next story. We'll see. Well, let's go to the next story.

Starting point is 01:42:46 So Epstein, okay. Yeah. Ron DeSantis yesterday comes out and you saw what Rob, if you want to, do we have that story here Rob? Somewhere, DeSantis, right there. Okay. Page four. Ron DeSantis signs legislation, okay, to authorize the release of Jeffrey Epstein's

Starting point is 01:42:59 grand jury documents. New legislation signed by Florida governor will allow public release of the jury's transcript from 2006 probe into Epstein's abuse of underage girls. The new measure goes into effect July 1st. Epstein pleaded guilty to state charges and sentenced to 18 months in jail after cutting a deal with federal prosecutors in sex offender, the law would shed some light on the grand jury testimony and would have limited expectations, exceptions to provide greater insight. The Santas said the public deserves to know who participated in the Epstein sex trafficking. Nobody should be protected from facing justice due to their wealth or status and those who harm children should be exposed and punished to the fullest extent of law. Tim, what do you think is going to happen here with Epstein? You think we're really gonna eventually find out

Starting point is 01:43:46 who the people are or not? I don't know, I mean they keep doing this, right? I mean this is like the ninth time they've said this. They're like no one should be above the law. I mean it's like, this is all they say all the time. They go no one should be above the law. And you go okay, and then nothing really ever. It's the same five people you've heard.

Starting point is 01:44:01 It's like Prince Andrew, it's the same people. And then they go well, you know, we're gonna now release this thing. I don't know, I just, I think you have to wait and see if you ever figure out. If these people all run the world and they all have all this money and they all have all this power,

Starting point is 01:44:17 and I think all of those things are true, I believe those things. I mean, are you gonna, are people knocking on the door? Like, I can't imagine that we're gonna find out all of the perpetrators of these apps. You think there's gonna be Jelaine, she's the fall guy or fall girl, and that's who it is, and that's the only accountability.

Starting point is 01:44:37 I don't know, you know, I don't know. Things are so chaotic now that you could see stuff leaking, but I mean, has the other shoe dropped? Have we... They've also done this amazing job, right? And I've made fun of them for this on my show, as they've been like, well, all these names are out, but this means nothing. It proves nothing. It suggests nothing. Clinton was on his plane a bunch of times, and he's mentioned 50 times in the documents, but it doesn't mean anything. The media comes out and goes, it doesn't mean anything.

Starting point is 01:45:05 It's just, I think they've watered it down to the point where like whatever names come out now, people are gonna go, well yeah, but that doesn't mean they did anything. It just means that they knew the guy. I, they've done a good job of watering down what these things actually mean. And to a point where I think people are kind of like,

Starting point is 01:45:26 well sure he was mentioned 50 times in the court documents. But what does that even mean? And the media has also done a good job, because nobody's reading those documents, they just look at pictures. And they've also done a good job of infusing a couple Trump picks in there.

Starting point is 01:45:40 Even though he wasn't on the plane or wasn't, but they'll infuse that to be like, well they're all doing it. You got one gift for Christmas. Okay, Santa's only gonna do one for you. Okay, out of all this stuff that you could find out about, like who was behind, election fraud, Trump 2020, that anybody was like, was there something going on there?

Starting point is 01:46:00 You know, China COVID, were they behind it? And Fauci's involvement with, you involvement with all the additional thinking IH. A hundred percent list of the names on Epstein. Every single thing you can know with this, John F. Kennedy assassination, who was behind it? You put that on the list as well. The moon landing, was it real, was it not real? 9-11 was Lex Wexner behind it

Starting point is 01:46:24 and all these other money people. And was it an explosion, was it this? If out not real? 9-11 was Lex Wexner behind it and all these other money people and you know, was it an explosion? Was it this? If out of all of those things, you can, you can buy the Hunter Biden laptop, the big guy, the money. Yeah. Roswell, New Mexico aliens. Choose any of those guys. You can have one gift from Santa. Which one do you want? 9-11 is where I grew up with 9-11. That was the seminal event of my childhood. So to me, I would want to know what the deal is

Starting point is 01:46:47 a little bit more than I do. I'm not even saying that it's like an inside thing, but I would wanna know why did we protect Saudi Arabia? What were those guys' intelligence? Run up holes, run up pump, curious people if you listen as well, but good, what do we run the intelligence? You know, what's the deal to exactly how it happened? Up to the minute, how it happened.

Starting point is 01:47:04 Is it exactly what they say? I would just be interested in that because that was a big event of my childhood. Is it minute for minute exactly what they say? Are those 19 guys, random guys from the Middle East, were they trained intelligence people? How did all of that happen? That to me would be very interesting. I think I know a lot of the other ones, or at least I'm of the belief that the Epstein thing would not shock you. If the names came out about the Epstein thing,

Starting point is 01:47:27 it wouldn't shock you. It'd be a bunch of billionaires and world leaders. You'd go, right, right. You wouldn't be shocked. Kennedy would be the CIA, wouldn't shock you. COVID would be a joint lab of the US and China in Wuhan where there might have been a leak. Was it intentional or not?

Starting point is 01:47:44 We don't know, but that's what kind kind of there RFK's book talks about that You know, I don't know that those would be that shocking They might be I don't know, you know the laptop Hunter Biden. There's a good crime. I mean, I don't know, you know I love by the way. What's the top of your list? What's your I got one but I got I was gonna say, because being from your world. You may even say something I haven't even said. See, yeah, because I'm a big, mind you, I don't believe absolutely nothing.

Starting point is 01:48:12 And I worked for the government, I was in the military. I know when you, you may even say the flu game for Michael. I mean, you can, it's because probably what is different, right, for people. Different priority. But, because I do, we know, I'm saying my firm opinion, we know what happened when I was 11. I would definitely love to know what the plan was,

Starting point is 01:48:27 what did they put explosives in to make sure everything went down, I'd love to know that. But right now, the hottest thing on my list right now, I would want every single one of those tapes that they have, of Epstein, that he recorded everything. I want that played, and I wanna show every single one of these assholes, from Clinton to everybody, hold on, in a courtroom, huge, not a regular one, big courtroom, and I wanna play every, I want to show every single one of these assholes from Clinton to everybody. Hold on.

Starting point is 01:48:45 In the courtroom, huge, not a regular one, big courtroom. And I want to play every, cause he had, they have those tapes. Is that, that's Bill Clinton right there. That's you with the underage girl. Put his ass in jail. I want accountability for every child, every underage child that's been their lives ruined by all these elites. And I want accountability held by all these assholes.

Starting point is 01:49:04 I'm shocked you didn't say the Taylor Swift thing. I mean, you've been granting and raving on that forever. been their lives ruined by all these elites and I want accountability held by all these assholes. I'm shocked you didn't say the Taylor Swift thing. I mean you've been granting and raving on that forever. I know the truth about her. She's a double. She's a witch. But anyway. What do you got?

Starting point is 01:49:14 I mean all these are completely explainable. 9-11, sometimes some of the stuff you know coincidence theories to use that term. Thank you. You know it could have just been as simple as these Islamic hijackers wanted it, as inspired by Osama bin Laden wanted to crash the planes. Okay. It could have just been as simple as the CIA and was it Alan Dulles and he was fired after the Bay of Pigs invasion and your buddy Sirhan Sirhan, you know, with Bobby Kennedy situation CIA, it could just be as simple as F. Stien was doing some weird, shady shit, blackmailing people.

Starting point is 01:49:49 I'm giving you a couple different things. Anything that has to do with aliens and space, I want to know what that holds to one. And here's what, and here's what, and by the way, and this is not to insult you. Yes. That is the conspiracy for stupid people. Aliens?

Starting point is 01:50:02 Aliens. It's just under ghosts in terms of what dumb people wanna know about. It's the thing that excites dumb people. You see Air Force people talking about it. When aliens or ghosts come up, dumb people's eyes bulge out of their head. Yes, it's my time.

Starting point is 01:50:20 You know why? Cause we don't know shit about shit. We have no, these other ones affect our lives. We know the people, as you said, they should be brought to justice. Listen, there was just an alien sighting in Miami. Everyone saw them, bro. Everyone saw them.

Starting point is 01:50:33 I woke up to that in Miami at the mall with the aliens. I go, who cares if it's true? Do you think we landed on the moon? Probably. You can't even stand for something too. There's no effect on my life. The aliens. Aliens have no effect on our lives, none.

Starting point is 01:50:50 What about the illegal aliens? Come through the border. A huge bad pair. I'm sorry, I mean, by the way, good and bad. You know what, Biden's calling them now, by the way. What? They're no longer illegal aliens. They're now called newcomers.

Starting point is 01:51:03 Oh, God. Welcome newcomers to America. Is that now called newcomers. Oh, God. Welcome newcomers to America Sound better. It's branding guys. Everyone thinks Trump's the branding guy and the marketing guy the newcomers That's why here it is right here. Have a brightens prison to the Mexico border He called the limo. It's coming from the country. Hey, welcome newcomers. That sounds come on Come on, Ben Veneto that sounds better when one of them kills a girl like Lakin, a one-year-old, and ready for this, she was killed by an illegal alien or a newcomer raped and murdered her.

Starting point is 01:51:30 It had the soft things in it. Rob, can you pull up that one clip? And by the way, pull up that one clip I sent you of the guy in, what do you call it? Tim, whatever you said, my phone's blown up with text messages of people liking what you said, my phone's blown up with text messages of people liking what you said. But can you pull up? Probably calling me dumb. I'm sorry. I was in your rap. You're just gonna blink it. It's the blink it.

Starting point is 01:51:56 What the fuck is this? Bing, bing, bing, bing. Bing, bing, bing, bing. Tim, everyone needs haters. I encourage you to get as many as, so some people just live their life. I hate pull up this clip This is by the way, there's nothing funny about this clip, but I Jen shared this with me while I was at a town in St. Augustine, I'm like what the hell is Gordon play this clip. Okay, who is it? What in the actual fuck seriously? This is why my goddaughter is not allowed to have social media I was just waiting in line at a pet store just to get dog food. And there was a full grown man standing in line in front of me, like so much back hair

Starting point is 01:52:33 peeking out, but not very much on top looking like a werewolf with alopecia. And I can see him on his phone scrolling Instagram. And every single post was little girls, like small baby children. And he literally stopped on some mommy bloggers post and zoomed in to certain parts of that photo. And I did confront him. I said, what are you doing? And he fumbled his phone away and said, nothing. I said, well, it looked like you were being up, the P word. And this man actually had the nerve to look at me

Starting point is 01:53:12 in my gay little eyes and say, we don't like that term. It's actually minor attractive. Oh, the maps. That's the part. Okay, so here's what I'm now saying. This person, the very feminine gay person, catching pedophiles should run instead of Michelle Obama. This person has, he has it.

Starting point is 01:53:33 He has it. He has it. He has it. He has it. This guy. This is good. I like the Democratic advantage. This guy?

Starting point is 01:53:41 You're acting like a... I'm not assuming that he's gay, but do you think America's ready for a gay president like this? What do you mean? We probably already have. They're patching pedophiles and decommels. That's the most American thing you can do. Michael Brown. Michael Brown. I vote for him. What is the...

Starting point is 01:53:59 What was that? I don't know what the post is. You know why I brought this up? Because we said newcomers, like the terms they're changing. Okay, yeah. And I said minor attracted person, how they're changing the name. Is that true? Is anyone doing that?

Starting point is 01:54:12 I mean, they, maps? Yeah, maps. They call it maps. Bro, they got an acronym for it, bro. Oh, yeah. I have not heard about maps. It's the new ISIS. I've heard about maps in the sense that like, it's a joke,

Starting point is 01:54:22 but I didn't know that was a real, I don't know, that was like an internet troll, but that's crazy if it's actually happening. But it's a joke, but I didn't know that was a real joke. I thought it was like an internet troll, but that's crazy if it actually happened. But it's something. And the medical doctor, a minor attracted person, can you click on this so we can read it? We'll actually go to, Tim, this is good.

Starting point is 01:54:33 We're getting smarter today. So the definition of minor attracted person, approximately. They're neglected. Who checks this out? Almost hilarious. This is crazy. Who is writing this?

Starting point is 01:54:43 They're neglected people. Both people who wrote it is Janet and Renee. They're both doctors. Go low rap. Of course. Approximately one in five Americans report childhood sex abuse. 50 to 65% child abuse,

Starting point is 01:54:57 I'm saying what I'm saying. In the absence of pedophilic interest. Anyways, this goes on and we can go to the prior page, rap. I heard a bunch of people talking go bottom to see if there's a Wikipedia that explains this as well. National Institute go up a little bit on the yeah, minor track the person's real. Yeah, you have to you have to soften that that war to peddle. Yeah, you get such a bad rap.

Starting point is 01:55:22 Sickos or scumbags. Some of these little commers might be maps. And what do you think? I had no idea that was an, I thought it was a troll on the internet, you know, certain things are like jokes, but I've, I mean, now we're living in a time. It's hard to know what is and isn't real. What is it? Isn't a joke.

Starting point is 01:55:41 Let me ask you, you're in at Starbucks, and you experience similar thing. A guy mid 50s, 60s is looking at, grow pictures, eight years old, 10 years old. What do you do? I record him watching that, and then I confront his ass. I'm stepping to his ass. What do you do?

Starting point is 01:55:58 Is it just mind your own business? Do we go back to 80s? I ask him to green light a show for me on NBC. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I would record him doing it and then I would follow him to his car and get his license plates to have all that on Footage and send it to the to the cops. You got enough you what do you do if you see that if he's doing that What is he getting ready to do that's he's setting him's he's priming himself. What should you do if you see that though? I can't punch you. I'm out of the jail for punching him, but I'm gonna follow I'm gonna record him in this car I hear you. I think you just start off license license plates. Maybe a good idea Something you know, maybe he's somebody's already looking for the guy like maybe I don't know sex offender

Starting point is 01:56:49 and he's already doing something I don't guys he likes dog I mean he's buying dog stuff he's at least nice to dogs but he well in any situation it's kind of like what Tim said is there's the mind your business factor and then there's the nope you see something say something If he, I think if you see that, you start with a, you good bro? And see how he responds. But what if he punches you in the face? No, if he's like, oh, mind your business.

Starting point is 01:57:12 Well, that's what he's like, no, this is my granddaughter and I love her. Like I would want a little more clarity before I'm recommending him for the authorities. One time I'm on a flight, okay. And a 50 year old man is sitting in front of us and dating this girl. And this other girl, 13 years old,

Starting point is 01:57:31 pregnant, is sitting in front of us, okay? 13. She looks 13 on a good day. Okay. Wow. And the girl on wood points it out, says, can you do me a favor, listen to their conversation. So I'm listening to their conversation. So I'm listening to their conversation, and I'm like, what is he asking?

Starting point is 01:57:49 Like, who is this person to this person? So I go to the bathroom, I come back, I wanna see her face, okay? You can tell she does not look normal. There's something that's going on. You can tell he looks like a full on asshole, okay? Are they sitting next to each other? Right next to each other.

Starting point is 01:58:07 Okay, where's your flight going? Where are you going? I don't know what it is, but it was long enough where you can try to start a conversation to learn. What does she do? She starts asking her questions. Hey, hi, how are you? So where are you from?

Starting point is 01:58:17 And she's sparking a conversation. Imagine like two seats here, two seats here. I'm not first class. We're sitting in a second class type of stuff. Yeah, this must have been years ago, people. This is 25 years ago. Years, years ago, right? Anyway, so we're sitting there and then,

Starting point is 01:58:32 and she starts talking and she, he gets upset. Hey, mind your own business. Oh. So at this point we're like, dude, something's going on. They says, what should we do? I said, talk to the flight attendant. So goes and talks to the flight attendant. The flight attendant then comes back

Starting point is 01:58:49 and starts talking to the girl, okay? And a girl is getting nervous. And the guy says, this is my granddaughter. Says, really, it's your granddaughter? Yes. But he's fumbling, he can't answer. Of course. Okay.

Starting point is 01:59:04 It was the weirdest exchange of what took place. They, on the flight out, they called the cops, the flight attendant called the cops, the cops took the, we don't know what happened afterwards by the way, but the cops took the, The guy? The guy and the girl and they went to a room, from there we have no idea what happened.

Starting point is 01:59:21 Wow. So this, some of this stuff has happened and then sometimes that kid, you know what they said? There's a sign, like if somebody is kidnapping you, you're in a car. There's a sign that you put a hand out and that sign is a sign of being kidnapped. No, it's actually the sign is in the car.

Starting point is 01:59:38 If you pull the window down, the kidnapper's not gonna let you pull the window down. You have to have a certain sign that you do here and apparently that's the sign that you've been kidnapped. So, hold on, after you got off the flight, and they took him away, where did Bill play and go after that? You're funny.

Starting point is 01:59:51 You're funny. Where did Bill go? But the point is, these types of people are out there, I think half the time is, you know, awareness, asking the questions. Yeah, you could have really changed somebody's life there by helping, you know, that's a good thing No, but the fact that we went to the

Starting point is 02:00:07 Flight attendant and it cops took over we're waiting outside at the gate. Nothing comes out No, we had no idea what ended up happening. I never Look even in the back Patrick of the plane. Patrick, Patrick, I'm telling you right now, the human trafficking that could be going on in coach, I would have no idea. Once that curtain is closed. I mean the bombs they could be making in code,

Starting point is 02:00:37 they could be running sweatshops. I would have no idea. It's illegal child labor, knitting Gucci handbags. I have no idea. And if you're getting human traffic in first class, it's like, it could be worse. So I don't get involved. By the way, craziest story on flights that you've been on.

Starting point is 02:00:54 Who has been the craziest person on a flight with you? That did on travel with you, that you were flying and you're like, we're in LA, so you've flown a lot of weird people. So who was on a flight, we're like, that guy was on. I got a few of them. Who was yours? I've had some interesting people.

Starting point is 02:01:11 I had Chelsea hand it on a flight once. And I made fun of Chelsea a few times. As of, you know, as of in a photo. Is there anything more fun than that? She's fun. And she just, she was very kind of like, I don't know. I don't think she even knew who I was or whatever, but she sat like right there. And that was when I wasn't in first class. I was behind and she was very kind of like, I don't know, I don't think she even knew who I was or whatever, but she sat like right there.

Starting point is 02:01:25 And that was when I wasn't in first class, I was behind and she was very kind of like a brup looking and tough and she was, you know, that New York to LA run or the LA to New York runs. They're a tough group of people that just keep going back and forth. That's six hour nightmare flight. And she was fun.

Starting point is 02:01:43 I'd gail King once, Oprah's lover. Wow, Oprah's lover. Oprah deserves a lover. You see how you just flipped that through no way. She's a billionaire, she deserves a lover. In Palm Beach, yeah. Of course, for sure. Montecito, whatever she did.

Starting point is 02:01:59 I'd gail King. But yeah, to me it's always people that are very demanding that are my favorite. We were on a very short flight once from like, I don't know, it was like Cincinnati to New York. It was really, really short. It was not a long flight. And there was just a guy who had like, you know,

Starting point is 02:02:19 he smoked a cigarette in the bathroom. They had to make him sign a paper. He had to like sign some document acknowledging that he smoked in the bathroom. They had to make him sign a paper. He had to like sign some document acknowledging that he smoked in the bathroom. It was just like, it's an hour and 10 minute flight. It's just, there's certain people on planes you feel bad for. You go, man, you're in a bad way.

Starting point is 02:02:33 Like something, you can't, something's not. Can't smoke a cigarette for two hours. If you can't, whatever your thing is. I mean, it just seems like. You got something PBT, I got one. I had somebody that had a heart attack and they were like, you know, when they stand up, no, I'm dead serious and they're like, is there anybody you hear

Starting point is 02:02:47 the intercom like, is there a medical, anybody doctor? And that'll freak you out. What about the one that happens? Other people start having anxiety attacks. What do you mean? And I listened. So I stood up. I'm like, I'm not a, that's the worst on a fly. I can cheer them up. I'm like, I can make the guy laugh. He's supposed to be going on his way out. But the guy literally had a heart attack. He survived. Not good. I've had some cool people on flights.

Starting point is 02:03:09 But the most memorable story wasn't even on the flight. It was in the airport. And this was a story from like 10 years ago. I was, I went to, you know, there's a bunch of big insurance companies in Fort Wayne, Indiana, as you know. And it's right near where my family lives in Detroit. And I remember for it was Easter. And my grandmother, neurotic Jew, she's like, well, you have to have a flight on Easter. You gotta, it's going to be crazy there. And we got to get you there

Starting point is 02:03:32 super early. Cause usually if you go an hour early, two hours early, I'm there four hours early before a flight. Cause grandma thinks that Easter is going to be the travel day of the year. Turns out, airport was completely empty because nobody's traveling on Easter, they're already where they gotta go. So I go to this bar and they're like, you know, they're taking down the stools of the bar and I look over and I'm like,

Starting point is 02:03:54 that is the tallest black guy I've ever seen in my life. Like his leg was basically touching Tim Dillon over here and I go, holy shit, that's Maneut Bol. No, I was full. And I over here, and I go, holy shit, that's Manute Bowl. No way. And I go over there, and I go, and he's arguing on the phone, he's like, it be all, and I want to change my flight. He's yelling with it, he's African, right?

Starting point is 02:04:16 And the lady has no clue what he's saying. I mean, he's gonna change his flight no matter where he goes. No, he couldn't change his flight. I'll give you a few. I ended up drinking at the bar with a manoeuver for four hours. I paid the bill, it was amazing. And he was the most likable guy ever.

Starting point is 02:04:32 Bo Bo, they say he's the first Wemby before there was a Wemby. But so one time, Ron Jeremy was on a flight. Really, PPD? You should have seen the way people reacted to Ron Jeremy. It was so funny. Shug Knight, girls were funny. Shug night. Okay. Girls were floating with Shug night. Bill O'Reilly while I'm going to Vegas, he was doing this show with Dennis Miller. This is when I was traveling a lot from Burbank in LA.

Starting point is 02:04:55 But the most interesting one was a quiet riot. Do you remember the band quiet riot? Russian metal, whatever, the type in quiet ride right these guys were a heavy metal band. Yeah, these guys they're all the way in the back of the flight, okay, and These guys were massive these this lady comes up and says hey You know starts flirting with them and says ma'am, you know how tired I am right now I am so not into it. This is not the 20s and 30s when we spent all our money on cocaine, he just joked about it. I was like, very interesting.

Starting point is 02:05:30 Tim, you know what they talk about. It's a very interesting thing too. He's in the, he's sitting in the last, last, absolute last seat. Okay, interesting. And they're putting their stuff, their guitars, whatever it is, and I'm like, who are you guys? And I'm thinking, you know, they are quite right. And I

Starting point is 02:05:45 mean, quite right today, you're not going to know who they are. But in the very quiet these days, 80s, mental, mental health, 80s, 90s, they were like one of the top, top guys, but the hair bands, the average person is not going to recognize them. Right. Those guys will yeah, come feel the noise. Yeah. It's not spelled like that. It's not spelled like that. Sure. This. This guy is spelling your dead. Yeah. Anyways, okay. Um, let's do the last one and we'll wrap up. So Vinnie, what's going on with this P Diddy stuff? Maybe give me the P Diddy. Anything about the Diddy thing? I'm not here. He's being charged with rape or

Starting point is 02:06:18 something. So there's a new lawsuit right now by Rodney little Rod Jones, and he's just but but dude apparently Allegedly in all these court documents. Diddy is like the Epstein of the rap game So they're saying he's had orgies He had you know he apparently shot a guy But you know because he had the security guard named for him Muhammad who was did he security guard? You know who else's security guard he was Michael Jackson's security When he, like he was like the second person on the scene when he died. So he's saying it goes back 30 years of sexual blackmail, Usher, Meek Mill, Justin Bieber, all these people are inside of it. Justin Bieber. Bro. He's saying, but what

Starting point is 02:07:01 one, if you're going to take advantage of a little kid. He's the cute I rock you just show show the video of of like just it's just kind of weird that this one the other one with him This is him hanging out with Diddy. It's just weird like this is him look how young Like Look at he's just a little kid. Yeah. He's a little dusty. So he's been hanging out with him. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:07:29 Man. I don't know. How old is Bieber here, you think? 15. 15. 15. All right, so I'm gonna be driving this. So the.

Starting point is 02:07:39 Yeah. So they're. He's being accused. Yeah. So the accusation. So the thing is at these house parties that he was having this is in the in the lawsuit. He had underage girls. They would spike drinks. Everybody from the Butler, the chef, the housekeeper had to walk around him with a pouch fanny pack filled with cocaine, XC, XC

Starting point is 02:08:00 gummies to whoever if I'm still waiting for the problem. You're so stupid. But they accuse combs of brandishing guns bragging about shooting people. He hooked up with what was his name? Clive Davis. And he's saying, because by the way, there's a CIA agent that came out. His name was John Holmson that said he admitted that the CIA created gangster rap to fill private prisons and glamorize criminality. Basically, it's not looking good for Diddy. It's just all the house parties, all the origin, and this guy- These are accusations. These are accusations in the lawsuit, but this guy is saying that they would spike all

Starting point is 02:08:37 the drinks that these people would just be getting shitfaced and sometimes unbeknownst to him, this guy said he woke up from getting drugged at one of these things and he's like he's in a bed, Diddy's in the bed, some other person's in the bed. It's just not a lot of- What's the story? How is Meek Mill tied to this by the way? Well, there's a lot of rumors going out that him and Meek Mill were hooking up and now Meek Mill is basically going after- By the way, this is again, alleged in this lawsuit, but it's like, it's not stopping for Diddy. And then the rumor came out with Meek Mill with Diddy. And then what did, what did tape?

Starting point is 02:09:12 Maybe go on to Twitter. I'm still trying to see like, so what is this? So the story is the only thing I saw, I saw the fact that pull up the Meek Mill tweet, whatever that is, you had it on earlier, Rob. You know what he's saying? That he was, Diddy had cameras set up all over the house like Epstein,

Starting point is 02:09:30 and he was blackmailing everybody that was coming to the house. So Andrew Tate Tweet. So Pete Diddy was having sex with Meek Mill and Usher? Question mark, right? Meek Mill retweets. Quote retweets, it says,

Starting point is 02:09:43 "'Was you trafficking women?' The fuck is wrong with you, Brody?' And then Andrew Tate asked, Meek Mill retweets quote retweets is was you traffic in women? The fuck is wrong with you Brody and then and rotate asked only asked the question because everyone is saying it happens So everybody's talking about it. So like that's why they're calling him, you know, by the way that tweet today is 41 million views Wow eight and a half there, but it's 41 the question is Why would you respond like that meek mill? but it's 41 the question is why would you respond like that meek mill yeah you responding you're kind of not you're not saying what you talk about is but but they're saying for 30 years because think about it did he yeah bad boy dude did he went 24 years old they're saying he helped kill tupac big he dies he is at 24 years old, owning Bad Boy Records. The Clive Davis relationship with him,

Starting point is 02:10:27 they're saying it's very, very suspect. They gave him all this stuff, blackmailing all these people for all these years, and now all of it's coming out, that he recorded every room had cameras. This is in the law. So, he did he almost had an element of Epstein. That's what you're saying.

Starting point is 02:10:42 They're calling him the Epstein of the hip hop. Tim, so obviously you're following the story very closely. Yeah, I have no idea. But I mean, here's the thing. In a white supremacist country, seriously, for an African-American entertainer like Pete Ditty to even get to live a life like Jeffrey Epstein, To me is a huge win for the culture, I guess. I mean, I'm trying to put a nice positive spin on it.

Starting point is 02:11:12 This idea that here's a kid who grew up underprivileged and now look, he's got a mansion, he's blackmailing people, he's having orgies, he's got the CIA, everybody's on drugs. I mean, if you know, I mean. He made something himself. I know truly, to be honest, I, this is an area I'm behind, I don't know anything about.

Starting point is 02:11:31 I just, I'm a little offended Vinny, because I'm gonna go on the record here and say. People have always said stuff about diddy for a while. A while. People say stuff about diddy for a while, and I didn't hear, I don't know, I mean, there's probably something going on. Yeah, well, I don't hear, I don't know, I mean, there's probably something going on.

Starting point is 02:11:47 Yeah, well, I don't, I don't wanna slander people, but something seems, I mean, he's been accused now of five times in the last six months. But by the way, by the way, this is nothing new, you know, nothing, even when I had Greg Cating gone, I was trying to find that who killed Tupac, right? Greg Cating was the investigator, the detective that was going and trying to figure it

Starting point is 02:12:08 out. And we put all the names and we put this whole, like American gangster with all the different pictures and he had to pick and choose everything kind of led back to Diddy. That's what they're saying. The death of biggie and the death of 100% led back to Diddy, the biggie renewing the contract owning all the label everything and then to park and who was behind it guys Next thing you're gonna. Tell me is that oj probably killed two people I don't know where you guys are going with this right now. I hate to be I'm just saying you know give me a chance here Yeah, my bad. I'm just saying I don't know you've been in Florida. How long now two years as of May okay? I've been here 43 years, okay has did he Has Diddy launched any kind of like counter attack?

Starting point is 02:12:46 He's a- He's countersuing. Let's see how the justice system prevails. But listen, as somebody that gets invited- I settled within 24 hours. Yeah, what do you mean? With his ex- Cash, 30 million bucks.

Starting point is 02:12:57 Well, as someone that gets invited sometimes to these types of parties on Star Island, and High Biscuits Island, and Palm Island, and the Venetian Islands in Miami, you know, see something, say something, mind your own business. I don't wanna get blacklisted from these parties Vinny. So anything that you're saying

Starting point is 02:13:14 does not stand for what I'm saying. You're talking about chicks, hot chicks, fanny packs, drugs, partying. I'm just saying, I'm not saying I'm going. I'm just saying I don't wanna get blacklisted. So let's just see what happens. I'm reporting saying I'm not saying I'm going. Yeah, I'm just saying I don't want to get blacklisted. I got what? Let's just see what happens reporting with the lawsuit during art Basel did he just keep my invitation coming How about this? I'm not gonna be glad

Starting point is 02:13:34 Any of my clothes one never want to go to a diddy and I'll say that to the I'm Gucci I don't I will tell you this. I don't know how much I care about this the other day I'm the Lane and bad and I'm about this. The other day, I'm laying in bed and I'm listening to R. Kelly, okay? No joke. And nothing's going on. I'm just listening to R. Kelly. And I'm like, babe, do you realize how many hits

Starting point is 02:13:56 R. Kelly has? Oh, well, wait, what are you kidding me? He just kind of go through all of me like this. So many. So many, right? And I go on Twitter and I said, let me see what people are saying about R. today So I type in our Kelly and one guy says I can't believe what our Kelly did to me Every time I listen to one of his songs all I realized is he probably wrote that for an underage girl

Starting point is 02:14:15 Yeah, now that's really for you now that ruins it for you. Yeah Yeah, I don't know now you're gonna next thing you know you're gonna tell me that Michael Jackson maybe diddled some kids. And when he wrote the song, beat it or thriller, there was something on his mind. I don't stand for this.

Starting point is 02:14:30 Diddy's had a lot of stories for many years. For many years, yeah. What happens? It is what, Shangela, did you like Shangela's being on SNL? It was amazing, it was a great moment. Yeah. It was hilarious, great moment.

Starting point is 02:14:40 You think they're going back? You think they're going back to getting away from woke? I don't, I don't, it could be. Why do you think it was such a great moment though? Because now they're trying to talk about getting recancelling up. One of the greatest comedians of all time really. I mean, you just, you know, not being hired

Starting point is 02:14:56 and then going back and hosting it and doing a great job is just a great moment. I think it's a beautiful moment. And it's funny, it's funny winning. It's like, as a comic, I love watching funny people be funny and he was able to be funny on the show. What did you think? Because he got fired for it.

Starting point is 02:15:11 We all grew up with that show. It's an important show. There's never been a show that's more important to comedy than Saturday Night Live. Without question. I have a little tit for tat with people on it, but I have friends that work there. I've, there's tons of talented people there.

Starting point is 02:15:22 It's the most important show for comedy that has ever existed. So, I mean, you know, I don't think it should have any particular point of view politically. I know that it it certainly has and does and there's not so much it can do about that

Starting point is 02:15:38 to an extent because it's the result of the people that work there and who write it and whatever. But there's still a lot of talent there. There's still a You know Marcelo's on it and a really funny guy. There's a lot of people I know that are really talented people there. I just think it was a great moment I think it was a moment to be really happy about me ask you about I mean I grew up We all did stand-up comedy PPD if you wanted to get out of the business world and actually delve into stand-up comedy

Starting point is 02:16:01 I think you'd crush it too, but you know whether it's the the belushiushi's, whether it's the Adam Sandler's, the Will Ferrell's, the greatness comes from there. But you would have to agree they have gone left and gone woke, whether it was the Sarah Palin thing, whether it's the Kate McKinnon SNL. It's not just them. It's not just them. Every late night comedy landscape of the traditional media. Here's my question though. At pressure, yeah. From Shane Gillis, I know we gotta wrap up, but the cancer culture is real. You've avoided it somehow.

Starting point is 02:16:31 Even though you beat up that lady at Cracker Barrel, we saw that, she's okay. God love her. Shane Gillis went on there. It was the least woke, most hilarious SNL I've seen in years. And Marcelo's like my little brother, I watched all this stuff like You know now they're trying to recance them because of his use of the our word

Starting point is 02:16:50 Yeah, but who's doing exactly guys guys we have to really go what is this 10 people on Twitter? Yes? No one cares No one cares everyone loved it We can't give oxygen to the people who've lost The people that were against that guy lost. He proved he was amazingly funny. He killed the show. They've lost. Don't give them any more oxygen.

Starting point is 02:17:13 Yeah, fully agree. I don't know any of them in Palm Beach. What is the? None of them matter. These bloggers, these people, they're writing their crap. No one cares. Don't give them oxygen. But you must agree, and I fully agree with that,

Starting point is 02:17:28 that comedians are genuinely the barometer of free speech. It's like, if you're gonna start silencing comedians from jokes. But here's the deal. I'm interested in free speech for everybody, for people that work at universities, for people that work in corporate America. Sure, for comedians, I want obviously comedians

Starting point is 02:17:46 to be able to do whatever they want, but like, it's a bigger problem than comedy. It's an issue that we can't shut down discussions about important stuff, and if we do, we're going to have a problem. Awesome, Tim, great to have you on, Rob. Can we do me, can we do, put the link below, Demands Podcast School, subscribe to Tim Dillon's show. I'm a big fan, can we do, put the link below the man's podcast school.

Starting point is 02:18:05 Subscribe to Tim Dillon show. I'm a big fan. I like it. I love your house. Yeah. I've watched YouTube. You like the condo. It's a nice little.

Starting point is 02:18:13 I like the whole thing. I like the way you do. I haven't seen your home side. I don't care. I don't care. He's fine. We're in the back in 38. I'm a big fan of you.

Starting point is 02:18:23 I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Thank you. Anytime brother. Have a of you. I appreciate you having me. I appreciate you. Anytime, brother. Take care, everybody. Have a good weekend. Bye-bye, bye-bye. Thanks, guys.

PBD Podcast - Jeffrey Epstein Files, Diddy Sex Assault & Rebuilding Ukraine w/ Tim Dillon | PBD Podcast | Ep. 373

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