PBD Podcast - JFK Files Release w/ Andrew Schulz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 563

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick are joined by comedian Andrew Schulz as they cover the release of the JFK assassination files, Don Lemon getting sexually harassed at... CNN, and Kanye West's unhinged rant against Beyonce and Jay-Z.------🌸 THE VT SPRING COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4kK4tVh📕 CELEBRATE NATIONAL READING MONTH:⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/43xPwPI⁠⁠⁠👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:01:09 Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here You are a 101? My son's right there I think I've ever said this before Okay, folks, we have a special guest in the house I think I've said this before. I'm the one. That's it. Okay, folks, we have a special guest in the house.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Let me tell you why he's so special. He is so special because we had a chance to go watch this guy's show called Life. I went with my wife and Vinny, and I think Adam was there and Tom was there. Let me tell you, whatever you're doing this weekend, add to your to-do list, watch his special. Just do me a favor and watch it. Manect me after you're done watching it, but go watch his special.
Starting point is 00:01:53 You'll thank me later. And by the way, watch it with your wife, maybe not with your kids, but definitely with your wife. You will crack up. Let me tell you what's happening with this guy a little bit to understand how big of a deal he is. Few years ago when we got acclimated, we started building a relationship, he was famous, but not famous like today.
Starting point is 00:02:10 You could text him and it was like 30 minutes, boom, we're going back and forth all this stuff. But then when levels of fame increases, it goes to a day, a week, he's not at the month yet to a year. But let me tell you where it got to. It got to a point that he got so famous that I used to call and say, hey, Andrew, how you doing? This is Larry Andrew Schultz Handler.
Starting point is 00:02:29 How can you help? He's graduated to that level of wealth. He's making money like never before, like never before. And you know he's got the savings because of the haircut he got. He saves that money. He's very committed to saving money. Got a family.
Starting point is 00:02:46 But at the same time, and when I think about him and his swag or his walk, he talks to all these shows and the way he does it, if the Rat Pack was alive, he would be one of them. He'd be part of that crew because he's that guy. He's likable, he's a stud of a guy, respected by everybody, and I think in the next couple years he's gonna get a massive back from somebody. I don't know who it is I'm just putting it out. Wow. I think he's gonna get some big money in the next couple years. The day that happens I'm calling him for a loan that I'm
Starting point is 00:03:15 probably gonna talk to his handler. Yeah. But with that being said the great Andrew Schultz is in the house. Hey. How you doing man? How you feeling? Thank you. These are all lies that you're telling. All lies respond immediately that he actually does respond. Just give him a heart. I take shorts yesterday in two seconds. Hey, see you tomorrow Boom, that's it. I'm in there. I'm quick. So you you don't respond quickly Yeah, I had to say I was one of the tape brothers to get on this Adams in a different business, you know, we're having kids Adam is dating kids. I mean Adams in a different business. You know we're having kids Adam is dating kids Anybody brings their daughters here, that's between 18 to 21 we tell Adam to take the day off He is not allowed to be at the office here. But with that being said, we got a lot of stories to get through.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Let me kind of give you some of the updates here. Was that? No growth since the last time I was here. None, none. It is what it is, man. He's just working backwards, but it is what it is. One of these days. Vinny on the other hand is living a different life, but stories.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Celebacy. It's called Celebacy. The reason why Schultz is here is because Schultz is going to tell us. I asked him, I said, Schultz, before you come here, specifically, I said three things I want you to do, but the most important thing, I need you to read the 80,000 pages of the JFK file. So he read it last night. He's ready. I got it for you. He's gonna give us a breakdown on what happened with that. He's our private investor. So it's very easy. We'll go through that. We figured it out. He just went through it.
Starting point is 00:04:42 That's what everybody was looking for, right? That was it. We were supposed to keep that a secret. That was on page 80,000. We got that to talk about. We got Ripple, for those of you guys that are XRP. I made a video about Ripple a few weeks ago. So many maximum, Bitcoin people, Ethereum, so pissed off, but the lawsuit was just dropped. Can you imagine that pretty crazy stuff? Few other things. Daily Wire CEO steps down, Jeremy Boring,
Starting point is 00:05:07 we'll talk about that. Don Lemon says women at CNN sexually harassed him, including one who touched his nipples. What? Yeah, someone. Don Lemon said someone touched his nipples, which is kinda weird. So why is that?
Starting point is 00:05:23 Walking around without a shirt? That is awesome. I love that. I wanna know who it is that touched the nipples though. Nipples which is kind of Alec Baldwin's wife, I don't know if you saw that on the red carpet Especially with this documentary slash Netflix pleasure that you got called life you have to see how she reacts it's very entertaining Charlie Kirk is doing his stuff and some happens where guy claims he was anyway you just have to watch this Charlie is such a special guy when it comes on to these types of things good news for our family because happy Gilmore 2 is coming out my son is a big fan of happy Gilmore so the next one's coming out something something was dropped JF files. I know you got a bunch of things you want to talk about it. SpaceX, Elon, these guys waited for months. Biden didn't want to
Starting point is 00:06:12 do it. They go up there. They bring him down and it's so bad that they have to actually lift them up because they don't know how to walk because they haven't used the muscles. Very interesting stuff. And then Gavin knew some schools. Tim Waltz on Mega. Denyza was just racism and misogyny and Tim Walz said he could kick all of their asses, which is pretty epic I mean Dana White may want to use him and put him in a ring It would actually get some eyeballs and then a few other things happen with Kanye and Kim Kardashian that Adam wants to talk about And then I thought I was going to be someone say Gen Z's Became a generation of rejects and then we got two
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Starting point is 00:08:28 The president says we're not going to redact any of it. We're going to share all of it with everybody. Once it is released, you know, one by one by one, different research people are going through it, well, I'm going to notice this, I'm going to look for this, I'm going to look for that. Vinny, so far, what have you seen? Because what I see here from Newsweek, Lee Harvey Oswald was poor shot, JFK file reveals. CIA responsible for JFK assassination, agent says, this is Newsweek.
Starting point is 00:08:53 What do the JFK files reveal about Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby? This is the Hindustanian Times, which of course you've got to trust those guys because they do a great job. But let me read what they released and then what I got here Vinny, I'm going to come to you next. Here we go. So what has it written? 1123 pages released Tuesday by President Trump detailing Lee Harvey Oswald's pre-63 assassination
Starting point is 00:09:18 travels including to Finland, Mexico City, Soviet, Cuban embassies where he sought a Cuban visa per the National Archives files and FBI memo from director J Edgar Hoover written hours after Oswald's death urges purter files to assure the public that Oswald was the one who killed Kennedy amid his arrest for shooting JFK in Dallas with Trump noting, we have a tremendous amount of paper, you've got a lot of reading, ties that no one it with files showing links to gambling racketeering from Chicago roots of Jacob Rubenstein per Curator Steven Fagan Great last name who said Ruby is for some people the Rosetta Stone that you can use to
Starting point is 00:09:56 Unwrap the entire Kennedy conspiracy theory. We got a bunch of things to show you here Vinny. Take it away Well yesterday on the unusual, Connor made a really good point. They released 80,000. A lot of them that are old, a lot of nothing, nothing that was so outlandish where we're like, oh my God, it was this person definitively. But he made a great point where he said, whatever you were looking for, whatever you wanted, from whatever point of view, you got it that day. If you thought Israel was responsible, guess what? There was enough in there for somebody to have the conclusion that Israel, especially because they were- Andrew's sitting right next to you. I apologize. I know. I apologize. So the fact that-
Starting point is 00:10:31 Am I the resident Jew? No, that's Adam. No, that's Adam. But like with that haircut you used to have where you don't know about- You gotta keep you on your toes. Always guessing. So if you wanted to point the finger at Israel, there's enough proof in here. What do we find? What's the thing? What's happening? Show the forms.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Rob, where's the one with the Israel? There's a bunch of- Rob, what's that one? If you have that one right there. That says what? This is regarding Gary Underhill, who was an intelligent agent during World War II, who after the assassination of John F. Kennedy went to a friend's house in New Jersey, told the friends that a small clique within the CIA was responsible for JFK's assassination and that he was afraid for his life and that he should flee the country. Less than six months later, he was found shot to death in a Washington apartment.
Starting point is 00:11:22 The coroner ruled it a suicide. Oof. So that's July 19 1967 yeah, what else do you have? Go ahead. Yeah, no good Rob good. This is more documents. Go ahead Adam. I'm just that's the CIA. They're implicating the CIA Yes, yes But there was a bunch of word that there was a bunch of play here What else do we have Rob know the Sergey letter is important this one right here Tom if you want to take it away I'll zoom in no
Starting point is 00:11:50 This is a this is to the Russian ambassador and so there was a handwritten note So that was legitimized and this they retype this you see the CIA up there retype this so they could put it in their archive But he was claiming he says listen. Lee H. Oswald is traveling with CIA and he will be killed after he does the kill. And he is allegedly an assassin being trained to kill Kennedy. And this guy's bringing this in August, right? August something teen? Three months before, three and a half months before. He was killed in November? Yep.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yep, August 15th. And so it's true that you got everything you wanted, but what you really saw here is there's a bunch of documents that seem to say that what that the underhill letter said is a group of people in the CIA were training Oswald, had contact with Ruby and people were pointing to it. So the one thing that everybody thought, isn't it weird that Alan Dulles of the CIA was on the Warren Commission, making sure that things were in or not in? Guess what?
Starting point is 00:12:55 That now really looks like a legitimate statement. I mean, a lot of research went into Roger Stone's book and he said that. And now we've got all these documents that seem to be pointing very conclusively that the CIA had fingerprints on Oswald's travel, fingerprints on Underhill, fingerprints with a Russian ambassador where people are saying, look, Oswald's your shooter, one of them, and then he's going to be killed. Andrew, how much you care about this?
Starting point is 00:13:22 Zero, almost. Really? Yeah, it's so weird. Like, I've been trying to care. Yeah, tell me why. Tell me why it's zero. I don't know. It's like, I think it's more that, you know, everything in media has become a Rorschach
Starting point is 00:13:33 test where it's just like what you already feel is what you're gonna see. So I don't know if any, like, hearts or minds are changed by this information. There's no conclusive information. Like you were saying, if you wanna blame the Jews, there's enough to blame the Jews. If you wanna blame the CIA, there's enough to blame the CIA. If you wanna blame the president of Mexico, I thought he was in there for some reason as well.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And it's just like, there's nothing conclusive enough to get everybody to agree on one thing. So everybody continues to go down their little rabbit holes and then we don't get anywhere. And then the discourse just continues online and everybody just kinda complains. So it's like, what is the solution? What we really want out of it? Like what would you like to know?
Starting point is 00:14:07 I think for you though because I think the audience cares to know your opinion. You're you're a guy that's Comedians are brilliant, and they're very smart and and you're not just a comedian. You're a very smart guy. We get cameras off One can have a six-hour conversation dinner with you and it's gonna be actually a very good conversation One can have a six hour conversation, dinner with you, and it's gonna be actually a very good conversation. Tell me, to the people that do care, or those don't care, don't you think it's important for people to know what happened to kill a president, and why would they kill a John F. Kennedy?
Starting point is 00:14:38 100%. But I think it's like, I think right now, young people are so detached from what JFK even was or did. He's an airport. That's who JFK is. That's his legacy now to young people. We are a little bit different. Our parents remember exactly where they were
Starting point is 00:14:56 the moment that happened. It was so impactful. But a 19-year-old kid might have no clue who JFK is. Honestly. I think you would argue like RFK is more popular than JFK to young people today. Yeah today Yeah, yeah, I would say no one maybe a maybe a word would be known sure sure right sure No, this is no like indictment on like what he achieved or what he was responsible for sure It's just more like the relation to people right so for me, I think the importance of this story is America's at an all-time low in
Starting point is 00:15:31 confidence in our institutions. And I think the way you build confidence back is tell us the truth. And we don't believe a lot of things that we're being told. But whatever institution it is, it could be medicine, pharmaceuticals, it could be health. It could be military industrial complex, whatever it is, government. So I think we're just kind of craving some truth. We're craving some honesty. And once we get some honesty, we can rebuild that faith. We want to trust institutions. You want to trust the people in power.
Starting point is 00:15:56 But right now we don't. So I think this drops and we're like, finally, we're going to know exactly what happened. They trust us. We trust them. We can move forward. And it just kind of feels like let me ask this question Maybe the question is the following say This is out and Inclusive, okay, the CIA did it we did it
Starting point is 00:16:15 I mean you just saw the document right there that we're gonna kill him and then the guy that killed Kennedy Well, that's that was from the Russian embassy. So I think this is where a lot of things trick. One, the CIA, I imagine, is this massive company that there are little CIAs within the CIA. So he was saying, there's that guy who got killed seven months later, and it was like, there's a little faction within the CIA that was responsible for the death of JFK. To me, that's believable.
Starting point is 00:16:40 But is that an indictment on the entire CIA? Does the entire CIA come together and decide that this is what's going to happen? Is there a rogue faction within the CIA? So I think it's very easy for us and it kind of like appeases us when we just go, oh, CIA bad, FBI bad, Israel bad. Like we just take these like blanket statements when in reality we don't even exactly know what the relationship is. Like I hear all these people like online and please believe they're not Geopolitical experts at all. They usually yell at only fans girls and now they're telling me like exactly what happens in the world
Starting point is 00:17:12 Geopolitically like they've become like if you're a guy used to throw parties and play poker now You know really what the truth is in the world. So These are Israel's controlling us and making us do all this stuff is like, how do we know? They're not our Aaron boys? How do we know when we want someone killed and we don't want our fingerprints on it? We go yo BB do that thing that you were told to do Like why are we so quick to believe that we're the ones that are on our knees? I Mean to me it makes way more sense that America would tell another country far less powerful To go do what needs to be done for our interests. Now, what are those interests? That's where things get a little tricky. Like those interests
Starting point is 00:17:49 might be, you know, lining the pockets of Boeing. You know, I don't know what those interests are. But I think that's a far more believable scenario that nobody even talks about. I think that's a great point. Are you trying to say that the US government or CIA or FBI maybe gets involved in regime changes around the world? I know we do. Toppling governments? Of course.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Of course we do. And of course I like the word, like what a great perspective and I haven't heard that maybe whether it's Israel or maybe it's MI6 in the UK or maybe it's whoever it is in the world, maybe they're our Aaron boy and we control their government They're not controlling our government. Yeah. I mean, why is that not like the easiest most plausible scenario? Where the biggest strongest most powerful country in the world? but when it comes what a great point when it comes to something like this which was One of if not the greatest Tragedy like travesties in the history
Starting point is 00:18:45 of our nation it was that and 9-11 if you don't know the public the truth is out there okay also the whole Abraham Lincoln thing in the Civil War thing that kind of yeah but JFK on camera on camera shot in the head proved that a magic bullet did it everybody knows who who did it but we couldn't say anything
Starting point is 00:19:03 they proved it we can't get like by the, we can't act like this isn't really, really important. We have to know the answers, which we're never going to get. They tried to do it with Trump a year ago. So hold on a second. So what is our attitude supposed to be? Just like Ben Shapiro, who anything with USS Liberty, if Israel's involved, it's man, it happened 60 years ago. Just yesterday he came out and he was like, JFK, who cares? It was so long ago. Why? Because it happened so long ago. We're not supposed to find out the answer. They literally tried to do the same shit to Trump, but God got involved. There's no way you could tell me him doing this to a chart didn't get involved. So I think we deserve, and I get it. There's so much- I don't know, did Israel try to kill Trump? Is that what you're saying? No, no, no pointing at a roof, and that guy climbed on a roof
Starting point is 00:20:05 and chilled and shot, and nobody was paying attention to him? That's unbelievable. Six cell phones, encrypted messages from overseas. It's a very simple question. What if 100% you know was CIA involved? Does it do anything to you? 100%. Yeah, because then that agency, to me, has to go bye bye.
Starting point is 00:20:22 The entire agency. You think the agency has to go bye bye? So, okay, because at that magnitude, they all knew. that agency to me has to go bye-bye. The entire agency. You think the agency has to go bye-bye? So okay because at that magnitude they all knew. So we don't have an intelligence community? 63 years ago. Yeah but they... Hang on, hang on. So from an agency from 60, let's just say 62 years ago, they did it, the whole agency needs to go done? I say yes. That's our... So because the biggest, as a military veteran, treason, when you do something to hurt the country,
Starting point is 00:20:47 this agency killed the sitting president. It doesn't get worse treasonous than that. Yes, everybody's gone. What do you mean no? Well, let him get it out, let him get it out. No, but you understand, like, for instance, if Valuetainment did something wrong of that magnitude, done, wipe out. But the example in this situation would be if out of 200 employees, 22 people had a plot
Starting point is 00:21:14 to do something that the other 178 didn't know, the whole company needs to go? I don't think so. Do you not think that the head and the higher ups of this, if this is true, they didn't know? That doesn't take a small fashion. Okay, so let me ask you a question. Let's just say these guys did it. Why did they do it? Was it for cause?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Was it for crusade? Was it for correcting an injustice or was it because they got paid? What do you think would be the main reason? I think they got paid because the main things he was trying to do was not get us into war. He was anti-war. He was doing a bunch of stuff that was anti-Israel. He was doing a bunch of stuff. Perfect. So let's just say he is an anti-war guy because we know he was trying to do was not get us into war. He was anti-war, he was doing a bunch of stuff that was anti-Israel. So let's just say he is an anti-war guy, because we know he was. Yes. So anti-war hurts who? The military industrial complex. Okay perfect. So do you think the CIA agent working for the CIA cares deeply whether it's anti-war
Starting point is 00:22:01 or not or for war? Do you think they care? The person individually. Do you think the agent is that much of a believer that they care to say, this is why we took him out because he's anti-war? Do you think the motivation was somebody paid an agent to take him out? You know what I'm asking? Yeah, probably paying the agent. Okay, so then guess what? If that's the case, probably.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It's not an indictment on the entire CIO. Yeah, I mean look, I just sold the company two and a half years ago. You know how many times when you go through this, you see bribery happening with different things? Hey, we'll do this for you to turn against this, and we'll do that to turn against... you watch everybody, like, all right, I thought that guy was 100%... okay, that's what's going on. I thought this guy was... these types of things happen in so many... that's not
Starting point is 00:22:42 an indictment on everybody in the company. However, let me ask you another question. Say it comes out that actually Israel was involved. What does it change for you? Israel was involved? Let's just say Israel was involved. And what does that change for you? For you.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I mean, immediate accountability. Immediate accountability. Absolutely. Okay. And what does that mean? Well, are those people still around are those two people So probably not so none of them are alive none of them are here two years ago if they were 30 years old then they're probably 92 years old today, so there's a 95% chance none of them are alive if they were over 30
Starting point is 00:23:20 I'm just kind of doing math. I mean immediate extradition affair You know as I'm sure Israel has done in the past with, you know, Nazis that they've like found around the world. Immediate extradition, death penalty on public in America, fire, pay-per-view. Immediate, if that was the case. Yeah, like, I mean, if it's proven guilty, you have to obviously give them due process, but 100%. And then I think that that would like greatly fracture the trust. Because understand, people are emotional beings. So the perception of a relationship matters.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Right now there's a great fracture, I think, with the perception of America and Israel's relationship. And you should be able to criticize every fucking country. I hate this idea that you can't criticize. We criticize America. Half of America shits on America every single day. America have America shits on America every single day the other half shits on America every single day We can't question like what another country is doing because we're allies bullshit
Starting point is 00:24:11 No, you should know every single country can get it or should be criticized a thousand percent But what's gonna happen is if you see that another country killed one of our leaders even if we're besties right now That relationship is probably severed. It probably severed forever, in all seriousness. I mean, listen, we nuked Japan, and now we hang out, we go there, it's just the best time ever, 100%. But I don't know if Israel's got something as good as sushi.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Do I have to beg your... Well, he says Tel Aviv nightlife is amazing. No, no, I guess what I'm trying to say is like the public perception, there's going to be so much animosity that I don't know if any relationship could overcome that. You have to say this. So that severs the relationship immediately because the politicians are going to have to react to public sentiment. You can't just tell people, oh, but that was in the past.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Now we're good. I agree. I fully, so that's the part where, you know, the average non-journalist, you know, today there's two different types of journalists, right? There's the citizen journalist and there's the journalist. And the question becomes, who do you trust? The guy that's a journalist went to brainwashing university that you have to believe in one way or another
Starting point is 00:25:17 and see the other side as the enemy, so it's not really journalism. It's journalism against the enemy. And then the citizen journalist is not a professional journalist They're just kind of sitting there searching googling grokking chat GBT and whatever they're doing and like I came up with this So you're like whoa that was kind of interesting. I don't know about that good Find tell me more and you kind of seen some of these guys that are coming up the carols of the world
Starting point is 00:25:39 They can't you're looking wow. I never know about that Rob. What is this by the way? They got small clique within the CIA who was responsible? That's the Gary Underhill thing that we showed earlier. Do you have anything else outside of that to go through? What's this one here, Rob? This video is of, this is back in 68 or 69. This is- Is this the LBJ video? Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Billy Sol Estes talking with Clifton C. Carter about the administration, LBJ's administration, I'd technically be JFK's administration, LBJ was the vice president, but them hiring a guy named Mac Wallace to kill JFK. Let's hear this. situation. Lyndon and I have had quite a few unpleasant words here lately over the deal with that he hired Mike Wallace to assassinate the President. It's been hectic in every way, but we've lived through this far and I guess we'll continue to do so. Lyndon should have We've lived through this far, and I guess we'll continue to do so. Linden should have never issued that order to Mike. But we've had our differences in, and I'm true blue to Linden,
Starting point is 00:26:57 as I've always been, in trying to carry out every order that he's ever given me. But this is one I'll probably never be able to forget. In the times that we've had in Texas, and the embarrassment that London had gotten from Kennedy. I guess there wasn't anything else to do but what he did. When you let aerot truffle bubbles melt, everything takes on a creamy, delicious, chocolatey glow. Like that pile of laundry. He didn't forget to fold it.
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Starting point is 00:28:04 Happy Face, new series now streaming exclusively on Paramount+. I saw this a few months ago, I don't. How long has this been public? I saw this a few months ago. I don't know how long it's been out. I'm taking a look now to see when it was actually recorded. I'd have to dig in a little bit deeper to give you an honest answer. When you see this, Phoebe, what do you make you feel? Well, listen, I've read a little too much on Lyndon Johnson. I've never been a fan.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Lyndon Johnson to me is one of those guys that they make it to the top by taking everybody else down. Not they make it to the top to outdoing everybody else that's going to the top. This guy was envious of Kennedy. Kennedy was getting all the love, the accolades, the attention. And you gotta be careful with these ambitious,
Starting point is 00:29:27 lazy people who are envious and they secretly stand behind you and they watch you and they act like they're a friend when they're looking at you behind closers, they cannot wait to see you fall. And that's Lyndon Johnson, man. So I'm not surprised that this was his way of becoming a president. I'm not surprised.
Starting point is 00:29:43 He was way more ambi- John F. Kennedy never wanted to be a president. His father wanted one of his was way more ambitious. John F. Kennedy never wanted to be a president. His father wanted one of his boys to be president. John F. Kennedy just wanted to have fun. He was just a guy that was having fun. His oldest brother dies in his early 20s in a plane crash in war, and his name is Joseph Kennedy Jr.
Starting point is 00:29:57 He's supposed to be the president. He's the real guy that's the alpha guy. John F. Kennedy had back issues, bone issues, health issues. He did not want to do this stuff, and then eventually he hey you got to run and is that true that he didn't Want to do it John F Kennedy never wanted to be president. Yep, or JFK not junior Yeah, John F Kennedy never wanted it was like next in line It was almost like I saw it in a weird way because he had an older brother that died Yeah, that was my understanding. Yeah, he guy. Joseph wanted his firstborn, I guess,
Starting point is 00:30:25 to be and then there was a death, I guess, in war. And then, yeah, but I didn't know that he had no interest in it. That's really interesting. Well, what does that sound by the way? I don't know. You hear that? The static? Okay. So, he, the dad would talk about when they were growing up, who's going to be the president first. Is that you, Adam? Who's going to be the president first? And so it was always Joseph. And when the oldest son died, he was depressed, devastated, didn't want to be around people. He was a mess.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And then John F. Kennedy eventually goes and does it. So Lyndon, to me, yeah, if you were to tell me, if stories come out that Lyndon Johnson was behind this whole thing, I would and does it. So, Lyndon to me, yeah, if you were to tell me if stories come out that Lyndon Johnson was behind this whole thing, I would easily believe it. Roger Stone's book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, bro, they should have sued him back then when he wrote it, the family or whatever, it pretty much points to this guy and he was involved with every single aspect of it, period. And I love what you said, Andrew. It's just accountability, bro. Whoever it was, even if, Andrew. It's just accountability, bro. Whoever was, even if, and you guys made a great point
Starting point is 00:31:27 because I never thought of it like that. The actual, I'm indicting the whole thing. Okay, I get it, it's a small faction. But whoever it was, we just want answers. Just like the Jeffrey Epstein shit. I want to be able to go, that son of a bitch did it, and then they're alive, we can put them in jail. That's a whole different thing, but I love accountability.
Starting point is 00:31:42 No, no, I hear, we all want that 100%. And I get your like knee-jerk reaction to be like, hey, shut the whole thing down. I think, so in New York, there's this jail called Rikers Island. Have you heard of Rikers? Obviously. And there was some pretty horrible treatment of inmates there.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And there was this move to get the entire jail shut down. And it's like, it's not the jail's fault the jail is just a building you know what I mean it's just a building with cells like the jail didn't do anything wrong but obviously there was horrible treatment so you could replace fire change up the the the people that work there the people in charge and I think that'd be a similar situation because what's gonna happen is you destroy the jail they're gonna build another jail so if you destroy the CIA, they're gonna build another organization and the same thing is gonna happen So you could definitely hold
Starting point is 00:32:31 Whoever's in charge at the time accountable for even letting that rogue faction do it if that's what it was But the fact that we're still talking about it feels like we're nowhere closer to finding out exactly what happened I think we're headed in the right direction. You think we will in our lifetime? I think we will. I think we're heading in the right direction. I think there's gonna be some people that even after, with all the evidence, okay, there's still gonna be some people that are like,
Starting point is 00:32:55 I don't know about that. I think this, but I think the score is gonna go from whatever it is right now, 63%, 64% of the fact that there was a second shoot or whatever There's there's percentages on this. I think that's gonna go to 85 90 percent It's never gonna go to 100 percent because some people just don't want to believe it That's the thing and then once you've committed your life to something It's what do they say with people with cults like when the cults get exposed they get even more devout. Yeah
Starting point is 00:33:20 It's a weird thing that happens, but like it's because you're so shameful It's you're so embarrassed that you could believe something so stupid so that once it gets exposed you actually double down So it's exactly that's kind of what's going on with the Democratic Party today though, right with what great pivot, right? That's what's going on with the Democratic Party today. I think I think you're talking about like their Lack of ability to kind of understand where kind of mainstream America's sentiments are the only guy that's saying we screwed up with Transgender is nuisance. The only guy that's he wants to be president He wants to be really he's got to get to the center, but everybody else like no Trans this and you know, we still believe in this and we you know that that is not fair and they you better call him
Starting point is 00:33:59 You know a woman because she is a woman. No, he's a man No, and there's the ruckus on what was it house Congress Rob the one Congressman got up and speaks and they were upset because somebody called them sir, you know, which one I'm talking about Yeah, I mean they still don't want to give that up. That's a dude, right? Which one which one the senator there's a congressman that's trans? Is that what you're saying? Of course there is.
Starting point is 00:34:27 This one right here. Watch this. Go for it. I recognize the representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride. Mr. McBride. Thank you, Madam Chair. Ranking member Keating, also wonderful. Mr. Chairman, could you repeat your introduction again, please?
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yes. It's a... We have set the standard on the floor of the house and I'm simply. What is that standard Mr. Chairman? Would you repeat what you just said when you introduced a duly elected representative from the United States of America, please? I will. The representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Mr. Chairman, you are out of order. Okay. Mr. Chairman, have you no decency? Okay. I mean, I have come to know you with it. Which one is Mr. McBride? All the way on the right. Right here.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Can you pull up the picture on Mr. McBride? I mean, Lisa looks like a man. So she's a trans woman, right? So like, this is the thing that actually I think is where everybody loses. This is the thing that actually I think is where everybody loses. If she wants to be, if she wants to identify as like a woman and you want to call her and that's what she wants you to call her, just fucking call her a woman. It's not.
Starting point is 00:35:36 No, not gonna happen. Okay, okay, okay. Let me make the whole argument. Please make the argument. I'm so curious what this. Let me make the whole argument. Give it to us. I don't think the average person thinks that much about trans, especially the average conservative
Starting point is 00:35:48 person. What I think the frustration was, and now they shouldn't have that frustration because now they're in power, but I think the frustration was for years they felt like there was a lot of, there was a lack of, I think common sense is the rhetoric that you're seeing now from the right, that there was a lack of common sense with like is the the the rhetoric that you're seeing now from the right that there was a lack of common sense with like Democrat ideology and the things they were pushing through and Trans is just the highest rung of the ladder So it would start at something like this and this was a lot of my friends were hearing it's like
Starting point is 00:36:16 We don't call people Latinos or Latinos We call them Latin X and then you would go to your friends and you'd be like What do you like? You know do y'all want to be called Latin X and they'd be like I don't even know what the fuck that is Right, and then you'd go back to your work and be like yeah I spoke some of my my Spanish friends that they don't even know what Latin X is and then the reaction is how dare you What are you some bigot? That's racist stop being so insensitive. So immediately you get taken back you go. Okay Wow, I don't I, I was just asking questions.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I spoke to my Spanish friends, they said that they don't even wanna be called that, but all right, this kinda feels weird, but I'm not gonna push back. Then you find out that like a drag queen is teaching English at your school or something like that, which I know is blown out of proportion, but still you hear a story about it,
Starting point is 00:36:59 and you're like, you're just going to the school, you're like, hey, just out of curiosity, why is there like a drag queen like teaching the kindergartners how to read? What is that about? How dare you? What are you some bigot, but they're a performer. We have performers coming in all the time. Okay I'm just asking a question. You keep calling me a big and the need the feeling the emotional feeling for like the parent or the person that situation is hey this doesn't really make sense and everybody's kind of pretending and then the final rung of that ladder
Starting point is 00:37:27 is trans women competing in women's sports, right? And I think that nobody, not that many people are actually really caring about trans people or thinking about them every single day, but it's like, it's the argument that is infallible. You present it to your friend that is like, you know, staunchly Democratic, you present it to your congressman, you're you know staunchly Democratic you present it to your congressman
Starting point is 00:37:45 You're like, hey, do you think this is unfair? You made me feel like a bigot with the Latinx thing You made me feel weird about the drag queen thing But this thing this is one plus one equals two and if you refute that it's actually very comforting for the conservative because you go Oh this whole time I was being gaslit into thinking I was the crazy person when in reality you're not operating on like an honest playing field. You're caught up in the ideology. So I think that's really what it is.
Starting point is 00:38:14 So I don't care if some trans person wants me to call them a woman, like I'm gonna call you a woman. I'm not gonna like put my fucking foot down about it. I don't give a fuck. Andrew, if I told you I'm gonna call me daddy, would you call me daddy? No. Why not?
Starting point is 00:38:26 Well, because you're not my dad. Call me daddy, Andrew. But you're not my dad. But I want you to call me daddy. I view myself as your daddy. Well, but you're not my dad. But you're right. She's not a man.
Starting point is 00:38:36 She's not a woman. But if you wanted me to call you son, I would call you son. Yeah, I get what you're doing here. You're having fun with it, right? No, I'm not. It doesn't affect me at all. Calling me daddy
Starting point is 00:38:45 insults my dad Yeah, but calling you ma'am insults my intelligence insults insults science it insults facts it insults You know an actual you were born a man You want me to call you a woman because it hurts your feelings so this is where I think like and obviously I don't think there's ever gonna be like a Version of us like getting some understanding of this But like I think the greater concern is this becoming a social trend and they're being like young influential kids that start making
Starting point is 00:39:16 Decisions about their bodies that are irreversible as a parent. I obviously have a concern about that, right? Because you start taking these hormones you start lopping shit off your body You're not gonna get that back like this is like a really dangerous potentially situation But if you ask me if there are eight billion people on the planet Right eight billion people on the planet and I see a person born with a foot coming out of their head their head on Instagram every other fucking day weird shit happens sure to me the weirdest shit Body dysmorphia or whatever
Starting point is 00:39:45 it is or gender dysmorphia, to me that's not like unbelievable if 8 billion people on the planet, God there are kids born with fucking cancer. There are crazy things that happen in our existence and that's not even close to one of the craziest. This is a different story because this is not something that happens naturally this is something that happens five ten fifteen twenty years into your life where you want to play dress-up how many days a year is Halloween one day a year but you want to play Halloween and dress up every we have a single day we have and you want me to pretend that you're a leprechaun or a ghost or a donkey every single day of the year disagreement I think when it comes to like leprechaun or a ghost or a donkey every single day.
Starting point is 00:40:25 We have a disagreement, I think when it comes to like leprechaun or ghost or daddy or any of those things, I think that we're on the same page. He makes me call him daddy every single day. It's fine. I do it. I get it. Go ahead, Andrew. I get emails from daddy and I...
Starting point is 00:40:37 I guess what I'm saying is like, where this... This is like a perfect example of like where the conversation gets lost and both sides kind of can't unify Like another example is even like doge like I don't think that there's any American that is for waste bloat and Like overspending like I don't think any American is like I believe in that outside the ones profiting from it. Yep, right But because the issue has become so like antagonistic now You got people lighting up fucking Tesla dealerships and it's like, well, this is supposed to be
Starting point is 00:41:06 a bipartisan supported issue. We should come together on this and go, hey, let's find the right way to do it. I mean, maybe doing it with the hatchet or whatever Elon and Doge have been doing isn't the best way, but let's find a way to make sure that our government agencies are refined and lean, if you will.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I think all Americans can support that. When we get into like The trance if there's a lot of emotional things that are going on here, which I get there's a lot of like Religiosity that informs it also I get that but The core agreement like I think it's more about like who is being hurt, right? I don't want to see these girls compete against these people who are born as men. I don't wanna see that.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Whether some fuckin' barista wants to put on makeup and say her name is like Sally, I don't give a fuck. Like I'm not in your life. Stay out of mine. That's the way I look about it. When it becomes a social trend and I have to worry about these things with my kid and the school is told to affirm whatever gender
Starting point is 00:42:05 they say, now you're in my life. How old is your oldest? My one, I have one kid, 13 months old. Okay, so when the 13 becomes 13 and conversations at night when you go home changes, your level of tolerance for these things will change. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is where I think it's really important. Yeah, so the part for me, like for example, the other day this guy says, I don't give a shit. Who cares about this auto pen, whether he signed it or not, and da da da da da,
Starting point is 00:42:34 and who cares about Fauci, whether he signed the partner or not, Adam's saying this, right? I said, okay. So I said, Adam, the reason why you don't care is because you're an anomaly. You don't live a, the average person doesn't live don't care is because you're an anomaly. The average person doesn't live your life. The average person has a car. This guy's an Uber, 24 seven, right?
Starting point is 00:42:49 He lives a very different life. Okay, that's his choice. He chooses to do it. Everybody on the outside thinks we, every day this guy's getting fired. He's been here for God knows how many years now. So that's not the case. We get along.
Starting point is 00:43:02 But the point is, what happened during COVID to a lot of parents, they saw that you're like, because we all used to be like, dude, I don't give a shit, I just told you guys a story before going live where I used to go clubbing, I'm like, I never gave a shit. Do your thing, I'm gonna do my thing, we're good.
Starting point is 00:43:18 We're totally fine, right? I was hanging out with Frank Sinatra's son. So, but that's a joke, folks. It's a don't go and say Patrick this because that story's gonna, he's gonna call and say, that's not right, never hung out with that guy. But the point is with, you age, you get older, and you're like, whoa, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:38 You're a little, okay, maybe they have a point. I don't know about that. Cross the line, dude, you know what? Here's what we're doing. I'm moving forward. Stay over there. I'm not playing your card. Because the way caving works, caving comes in steps.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Before there's a high level of cave, there's three levels below it that's an easier cave. Once you cave here, you're like, that's not a big deal. Then you cave here. I really don't want to. But I cave here, you're like, that's not a big deal, then you cave here. I really don't want, but I would say, listen, you already cave on, okay. And then you're like, dude, I am caved on things that I fully don't agree with. That's what happened with a lot of voters.
Starting point is 00:44:15 A lot of voters got so caught up, they're like, dude, I'm a John F. Kennedy Democrat, what the hell is going on with this Democratic party? I guess I have to kind of vote this way, but I don't agree with this. I don't agree with that. Kind of got lost in translation. So I don't know. To me, I feel like it's a little bit too much
Starting point is 00:44:29 of pushing the envelope to expect me to call you a man, expect me to call you a woman. He just dressed up. It's totally fine. I'm gonna call you Mr. McBride. It's great to have you here. And he still has his testicle, by the way. And I can see, Andrew, if it was,
Starting point is 00:44:43 okay, you went for the gusto. Like, by the way. I was at the mall this weekend. No joke with him Well, I'm saying I'm saying no because you said he saw his testicles. No, I'm saying you know, he still has Yeah, how do you know what's going on? Money Sarah McBride still has balls. How do you know? I know his voice I'm at the mall. How does Vinnie know what's going on between these? Mind you I'm what this is real talk. I told Rob, I had to call my mom because I was dying laughing. I'm walking out of the mall, I told Natalia,
Starting point is 00:45:09 and I just look out the corner of my eye, this dark skin like Latina, Asian. I was like, whoa, beautiful. And he turns around and it's a dude. Gotcha. And I was like, oh! We had a moment of like. They didn't hold you back is the real question.
Starting point is 00:45:22 We hooked up in the car, but listen, anyway. So I was like, so my thing is this bro, you know what it is? Just the laziness of the white trans guys, the white trans men are just lazy bro. If you're gonna go for the gusto, go for it. Cut everything off, lob everything, because you know what the problem is?
Starting point is 00:45:36 Andrew, we're not saying it what it is. This is a mental disorder. Everybody, we're just going all the way to the finish line. Call me what I want and that's it. The problem is bro, you can pretend to be what you want. This is a free country. But to force somebody to agree with your reality is a problem we get because think about it.
Starting point is 00:45:52 If we didn't nip this in the bud as a country, of course it would get rampant. Are we the gayest we've ever been? The country, right now, 2025, 100%. One out of four high school kids identifies as LGBTQ, non, whatever the hell. I can't hell I can't I really just threw extra Something no no I'm just saying there's so many letters are so many things at what point do we have to just be like No, man, this is this is I want to hear Andrew's are you go see what he's gonna say
Starting point is 00:46:16 So so I think that like one of the big concerns is is obviously protecting your children, right? And I think that both sides are actually trying to protect children. I think when parents, and you're rightfully concerned, I'm rightfully concerned, is that I wouldn't have control with the ability to protect my child, right? If the school goes, hey, we don't need to ask your parents
Starting point is 00:46:41 for you to take hormones, I start going, wait a minute hold on that's my child I want to make the decisions that I think are best for them and you're getting in the way of that and I agree with you that knee-jerk reaction that any parent like I definitely would feel as a parent is like whoa what the fuck is going on here why are you doing stuff with my kid without allowing me if my kid wants to go to the museum I got to sign some paperwork so they can go but not so they can grow tits.
Starting point is 00:47:05 It seems obviously like there's this real emotional reaction that is you wanna protect your child. Now, if I'm gonna have empathy for the other side, it's somebody who went through that brutal process in their life, and they go, I wanna protect a child that might be trans from the horrors that I experienced growing up with people not understanding what this is. I think a lot of these people are well-intentioned,
Starting point is 00:47:30 but they have to understand, and maybe one day they'll have kids and they'll get it, how important it is to us to protect our children. And anytime you make me feel even slightly that you could be putting ideas in my kid's head that I don't like, or even removing my autonomy to protect my child. I'm gonna respond with a force that you've never seen before
Starting point is 00:47:51 in your entire life, and I'm gonna be incredibly blunt about it, and I don't care how it makes you feel. When it comes to protecting my child, it doesn't matter how it makes you feel. So you're gonna get the harshest, most coarse arguments out of me, unless you meet me where I am emotionally. Like, I think anybody that's trying to,
Starting point is 00:48:08 for lack of a matter, like push Trans Agenda, has to understand what parents might feel before they're putting any sort of legislation out there. And I don't think, I think there's actually a lack of empathy for the parents. There's a lot for the kids. I think they're actually coming from this place of like, I wanna protect these kids. They believe that's their version of protection, but not enough for the kids. I think they're actually coming from this place of like I want to protect these kids
Starting point is 00:48:25 They believe that's their version of protection, but not enough for the parents I saw a tweet the other day that said I feel sorry for the parents if The a kid who they raise well later on Transitions and becomes transgender, okay? The kid, if you're sorry for the- You raise them well, and then later on they're an adult, 24 years old, they transition and become transgender. He says, but I feel sorry for the kid
Starting point is 00:48:54 when they transition when they're a teenager and I blame the parent. So to me, a part of what happened is, in Hollywood, you're looking at all these guys and their kids kids are trans, and it's like a competition. Minus two, minus two, me too, me too, me too. So that's the pure pressure of being accepted. Then on the other side, when you're talking about empathy, I feel empathy for kids all the flipping time
Starting point is 00:49:19 when I meet them. Because the kid is not yet fully developed. I'm like, dude, I truly feel bad for this kid Yeah, but he's not coming to we're not raising and he's gonna go to those parents house And if you say something the parents, you know, you're now in that So you sympathize with the kid you try to give some feedback to the parents if there's relationship there Typically, there's not so then you're like dude. I'm asked out I really want to find a way to do something with this. I feel bad for the kid. And then on the other side,
Starting point is 00:49:48 when you're like a parent comes up and a father came up to me, one of our neighbors, he says, hey, my son just told me this and we're at dinner, Casa D'Angelo, Jennifer sitting right next to me. The man is crying, he's in his mid-50s. He's like, what do I do? And then I feel for him, because he's not doing it. But the part about this that's the black and white, not the gray area, we should be compassionate. We should have empathy, even for this guy named McBride. We should have empathy for him. What caused him to get here?
Starting point is 00:50:15 What happened with his upbringing, with his parents? I don't know, I feel bad. Like even when the Chelsea handler thing was going on, and she's talking shit to Adam Adams, talking shit to Chelsea, the lifestyle she lives, and she's talking shit to Adam Adams, talking shit to Chelsea, the lifestyle she lives. And then you go and look it up, bro. She was nine years old.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Her lover or life was her older brother, 22 years old. He decides to go camping. He's climbing a mountain or whatever it is. He falls and he dies. Never comes home. Dad was, I believe, a car dealership salesman and she is devastated. The house is devastated. She sees the most
Starting point is 00:50:45 powerful man in her house, her father not knowing how to handle it. Yeah, of course she's not going to want to have any kind of commitment. You know that kind of pain? These are the things we're not aware of. We should have compassion. We should have empathy. That's beautiful empathy. Yeah, it's true empathy.
Starting point is 00:50:57 You feel bad for it, right? But at the same time, that still doesn't justify me having to call you a man. My opinion. Or what about the empathy towards someone in your position? Like what would you want them to understand? What would you want someone operating in good faith? They think what they're trying to do is they're like, you know, I believe in trans, I want to make sure that kids are able to do this if they do feel comfortable.
Starting point is 00:51:20 How would you like them to have empathy for you? What do they not understand about you as a parent? Like these are the discussions I think a lot of times we don't have because there's this like dunk on culture, right? So like what what is it you'd like someone in good faith? They're not a psychopath There's someone who's really trying to make the best of something. Okay, so you said something earlier You said I think both sides care about kids. I don't know I think the percentage would be more people on the right Care for kids than those on the left. Okay
Starting point is 00:51:49 Why because more people on the right have kids than those on the left? Unless the the poor where it's kind of like because of the benefits that you have that you're paying that that's a different structure I'm talking about, you know when you break that down and then you come to people, you know, you read these marriage books, how to have a great marriage, written by a person with six divorces. Yeah, because I have experience. You know, hey, this is how you should raise your kids. How many kids do you have? I don't have any kids, but this is how you should raise them.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I'm sorry, buddy. Like, me giving you advice on how to be a comedian. Do you know how pathetic that is for me to give you advice on how to be a comedian? Do you realize how pathetic that is for me to give you advice on how to be a comedian? Do you realize how insane that is for me to tell you, you know what, Andrew, that roast you did on Tom Brady, I think you missed a mark, bro. We do this with geopolitics. Yeah, no, I get that, but that's.
Starting point is 00:52:36 This is what we do all the time. But that's opinion. But for me to tell you from a place of an expert to say, here's what you should have done, and we should all over you, right? That's a different story. But in this part, the people that tell others how to, here's what you should have done, and we should all over you, right? That's a different story. But in this part, the people that tell others how to raise kids and you don't have them,
Starting point is 00:52:49 stay out of the way, okay? The people that, like... Why though, why? This is good. The reason why you're special, I don't just say everybody has to go watch it. The reason why you're special was so awesome, is because couples go through that
Starting point is 00:53:03 and they're embarrassed to talk about it publicly. And you put it out there, you're like, are you kidding? It is so embarrassing that you almost made everybody feel like, dude, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. You humanized yourself and indirectly you unified marriages. You probably saved a lot of marriages
Starting point is 00:53:24 with the special of yours in the craziest way. Why though? Because you have moral authority. Because you went through it. So I'm like, you know what? I like that. So to me, I have a problem with the LGBTQ community that's never had a kid to tell me how to raise a kid
Starting point is 00:53:39 and I should be doing this. Knock it off, okay? Go have a few kids, see how hard it is to have a few kids. Raise them and if you wanna raise them on your values, go for it, kids see how hard it is to have a few kids raise them And if you want to raise them on your values go for it These are the values I want to raise and that's the problem real quick on this just but I think that's I think the really important Part is going hey, you guys don't have kids So you don't understand or maybe some of them do but like you don't understand the feelings that I'm having right now
Starting point is 00:54:01 Well, I want to protect my child, right? And I think that that conversation is very important. Not whether who's right or who's wrong, but them understanding where you are emotionally. Because we're emotional beings. There's that great Jonathan Haidt book, The Righteous Mind, I don't know if you guys have read it. We react emotionally and then we retrofit
Starting point is 00:54:17 justifications onto our emotions. So them understanding that, somebody pushing legislation through that you don't need to ask a parent permission to start hormones for a kid, right? Tell me that wouldn't terrify every parent. Why are they not having a conversation with parents, at least the parents in the PTA, to be like,
Starting point is 00:54:34 how do you guys feel about this? And I understand your concern about social contagion when you hear about all these like people in Hollywood who have kids and the percentage of their kids that are trans seems to be way more That's very concerning as a parent. So like these conversations. I think would be the most beneficial. I give you the next part Yeah, there's the next part you get what I'm saying for sure, bro By the way, Jonathan Hyde also wrote another book called the anxious generation. It's a month. Yeah, this is same guy
Starting point is 00:54:59 You're phenomenal guy. He's fair. He's a liberal, but he's very fair and I like guy. He's fair. He's a liberal, but he's very fair. And I like the way he puts it. He is a liberal, but he's very fair. Most liberals can't be fair. But you know what word you used? You know what was the word you used when you asked me the question? What was the word? How do I feel? Yeah. Right? Okay. I get the feeling part, but there's a part of it that where feeling's out the window when it's reason based on facts. When we get there, I don't care how I feel. For example, Andrew Tate, we've had him on three times. Every time we have him on, you know what people say?
Starting point is 00:55:35 I can't believe you have a former, you know, pedo girls, rape, have you seen these videos? I'm like, yeah, I've seen the videos. Personally, I'd like to see him be innocent. I'd like the charges to be dropped, personally, because of the time I've spent with him, and he reminds me of a guy in the army that we hung out with, and we got along, personally.
Starting point is 00:55:59 But let me tell you, if the court proves, and the stuff is there, and it's all proven, then guess what? I can't debate the facts. Those are the facts. If that's conclusive, right? And it's shown. So this is where there is the feelings, the relationship.
Starting point is 00:56:14 My son, I go to school, I don't want my son to be the one, hey, he hit the other kid, or he said this. You go and you're like, my son, and then you're like, show me the facts. Well, here's the tape. Oh, shit, yeah, he did. There's a fact, I can't. So you're a dude. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I know it hurts your feelings, but you're a guy. I think that you said something important there about Tate. We should all hope that he's innocent. Nobody should be hoping that he's a pedophile. Because if you're hoping. Or a human trafficker or rapist. Or a human trafficker. Yeah, like, because if you're hoping that,
Starting point is 00:56:49 think about that, right? A lot of people are, though. Yeah, but think about what that means. That means you feel a certain way towards someone, and you would, for that feeling to be validated, you would rather a kid be raped or a woman be abused and women be sex trafficked, right? So I think that's something where we gotta pause and go,
Starting point is 00:57:08 we hope that that's not the case. I hope that no girl was raped on Epstein's Island. I hope that that is probably not the case, but I don't want that to have happened. You understand? Like, this is the world that we should live in, right? Well, it's trial by social media media trial by media versus an actual trial because Proving him guilty, but they end up with a core for your own satisfaction
Starting point is 00:57:37 My point is and we don't want children to be tools for own satisfaction We don't want girls that are sex traffic to be tools for our own emotional validation That's a dangerous place to be in I I mean, I think like, I think the Tate thing is like very simple. It's like, has he been proven guilty? No. Okay. Are we, are they still trying him? Sure. He's an American citizen. There's this conversation about not letting back here. Like American citizens get to come back to America. They're protected no matter where the fuck they go. And I believe in free speech. You can say whatever you want. That being said, if you shit on America, I'm a patriot, I love America, so if you shit on America and then when it goes and gets rough you come crawling back
Starting point is 00:58:12 you're going to get made fun of. It's very simple. If you shit on America and then it gets tough over there and then you come crawling back not because Trump got elected because he was elected but last time he didn't come back. so just acknowledge that it got tough out there and that the West is the best and That America's the greatest country in history and then we got nothing to worry about then we're good, but these it's the reality It's like he talked all about the matrix, but he's literally the guy from the matrix Do you remember the guy who like went no the dude who went who went into, he like, he decided to take the pill, and then he saw how shitty it is. He's eating oatmeal.
Starting point is 00:58:48 You know, they go to the steak, the guy that ate the steak. And then he's like, no, I want the other pill. That's what he did. He was in the Matrix in Romania, eating oatmeal, and he was like, fuck that, I want a steak in America. He came back. Like, the irony is he actually is the person he's describing in the Matrix, but just very differently.
Starting point is 00:59:03 You're not Neo. You're the guy that gave up on it. You came back to The Matrix. And you gotta live with that decision, and that's fine. And we'll accept you, because we're Americans, but we're a proud people. Don't go shittin' on us, and then when you need us, come back, because it's basically like the same energy
Starting point is 00:59:20 Brittany Greiner got, they should get. Right? Like, it's the same shit. What is this, Rob should get. Well, it's even worse. It's the same shit. What is this, Rob, by the way? What clip is this? Yeah, because I know you want to move on, but I just want to make a point. So this is Timothy McBride. We don't have to see the video, but this is him sitting in front of kids pretending to
Starting point is 00:59:35 be a woman, reading a book, telling them it's okay to be transgender. So going to your guys' points, because you guys have kids, that's the problem with this group. Yes. Is that really what he's doing? Yeah, he's, yeah, trust me. How long is this, Rob? How long is the problem with with this really what he's doing yeah he's trusting how long is this right it's a problem this is 48 seconds played real quick let me just see what he says
Starting point is 00:59:52 family to the doctor and the doctor said that she should she's a girl and everyone should see her and treat her like a girl right which is to say that they should call her jazz and and they should treat her with a girl, right? Which is to say that they should call her Jazz. And they should treat her with respect and be nicer. But can I ask you one more question? So that journey that she had from people thinking
Starting point is 01:00:17 she was a boy and the fact that Jazz knew she was a girl. You have no right to have this conversation. And this is exactly why I said the 10 plus. Are you ready for this, Andrew? These people, and again, I feel bad for them. They can't have children and they can't multiply, so they want to come after your children, because that's how they multiply. I'm telling you guys, and you made a great point, Pat.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Why don't we take a step back, Andrew, and like find out, like you guys said, have compassion. It's a brain disorder. Can we, because everybody just wants to go, call this do this chop it off go for the kids timeout Take a step back. What is going on in here? Could we have a national? psychiatry Transgender sit them down and talk to these people find out so that it doesn't keep happening for people, but that's how they multiply They're sitting your boy Timmy is sitting in a class saying, be like me, it's okay. Look at how young these kids are.
Starting point is 01:01:07 They're not impressionable, these kids? I think Democrats just need to have a conversation with parents, show them that video, and then just have parents honestly tell them how it makes them feel. I think if you have honest interactions with people, you'll see how they react emotionally. And I think that they'll maybe create policy or change their positions based on that. They learned it based on this last election, I think. I think a lot of people chalk up this election
Starting point is 01:01:32 to things that it maybe really wasn't. I think it's culture shift. You could say whatever it is, I think. But I think it's just culture shift. I think that there was a rejectionist agenda. I think in the same way that, you know, when Trump lost, people were voting against Trump. I think with this election,
Starting point is 01:01:48 people were going, voting against the administration. Not everybody was like this diehard Trump, I love this guy, MAGA forever. I think there are a lot of people who are like, I don't like what's happening. And they being the Kamala or the Biden administration are saying we're gonna continue doing the same thing. Well, because it's called equilibrium. Every four to eight years, we have a culture war
Starting point is 01:02:10 in this country, and we shift. We always have a culture war. And clearly Trump won the culture war. But what I think is so amazing about this conversation here is you're not going to get this on mainstream media. What I love about Pat, even what I love about Schultz is, hold on, but let's go there. Hold on. No, no I love about Pat even what I love about Schultz is hold on But let's go there. Hold on. No, no, no go even deeper Hold on go even deeper and where you go deeper and deeper and deeper you find so true I know Pat I've seen you with your children like I understand who you are as a man and I think that people need to realize like how
Starting point is 01:02:40 you become very primal when it comes to your children and how you become very primal when it comes to your children and the reactions you're gonna get when you make me feel like my child is gonna be manipulated in some way and he could potentially be harmed are primal reactions. And that's not often the best discourse. Like you're getting the most raw version of me. Are you gonna do something to my child?
Starting point is 01:03:01 You start going, well, I'm gonna kill you. That's how you feel. The idea of, you have this conversation before you have kids all the time, like, am I capable of killing somebody? I don't know. You have a kid and it's like, kill everybody in this room. It's the easiest thing in the world. So I think it'd be very important, especially with these type of topics, regardless of how
Starting point is 01:03:24 you feel, you could be the most pro, you could be the most topics, like regardless of how you feel, you could be the most pro, you could be the most anti, you gotta understand how parents feel and how you're making them feel. And if you don't, you'll lose every election for the next 100 years if you don't look into how you're making parents feel. On one hand, this conversation,
Starting point is 01:03:37 you're talking about feelings and hey, be respectful and have empathy, and I get that. But also juxtapose that with no, there's actually the truth And there's justice and there's facts people don't care there's reality. We don't care about facts No, no, no, but no, but but you should yeah. Yeah, we should do a lot of things, but we don't I shouldn't eat bread every meal Yeah, but you know I mean, but like you sure having a whole lunch holds having a low carb lifestyle Ben is a little bit different than a bench appear says a girl. Ben Shapiro says facts don't care about your feelings.
Starting point is 01:04:06 True. He couldn't be more wrong. Feelings don't care about your facts. What is faith? Is faith a fact? Faith is a feeling. The most important thing in... It's a belief.
Starting point is 01:04:17 It's a belief. Believing is something you have not yet seen. To me that's a feeling. That's a feeling. Sure, it's not a fact. So to me the most important part of your constitution as a human being is a feeling. It is's a feeling. That's a feeling, yeah. Sure, it's not a fact. But to me the most important part of your constitution as a human being is a feeling. It is not a fact.
Starting point is 01:04:28 And human beings are feeling based people. That's why myths move us so much more. There's no movie that's just about data and facts. We're like, I don't give a fuck about that shit. But you put on some movie that matters to me and I'm like, wow, this is incredible because it evokes feeling. You're right, but at the same time,
Starting point is 01:04:44 if I want to get reassurance, I seek facts. Facts tell story sell, I want to know the facts. And then based on my life experiences, I'm probably not going to like some of the facts because it's going to contradict what I thought was true for 46 years, or I'm going to sit down and be like, see, see, see. But it's either validation or like, oh shit, I was wrong. But you're going to go through one of those. Because the truth passes through three stages. You know, say that sometimes the truth hurts and I know you want to kind of wrap up here, but the truth passes through three stages. First, you're ridiculed. Second, you're violently
Starting point is 01:05:22 opposed. And then it's accepted as being self-evident that's exactly what's going on with this trans thing it's like no let's just be nice to them let's help them let's it's like that's a dude who's dressing up as a woman can we can we and we want to protect transition to a normal story transition transition you want to transition guys transition into a normal story Don Lemon says woman at CNN sexually harassed I love I love this. Including one who touched his nipples. I love this. Okay Rob, play the slip. Go for it. Go ahead. I've been harassed by women and men and the work and some things are not even, it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Now look. Tell us, I'm very interested. There are some things that are. No, no, no, I'm interested in this. There are some things that are really egregious, right? But not everything is Harvey Weinstein level. No, that's rape. And then some of the, right, that's a whole different story, I'm not talking about that. And I'm not saying it makes it right, but I remember when I was in Atlanta
Starting point is 01:06:18 and was in the cafeteria commissary, whatever you want to call it. At CNN. At CNN, and this woman, young lady, tweaked my nipples and said, Oh, it's cold in here. And I said, Okay, you realize if I did that, I'd be walking me out the door right now. But I didn't I didn't care to go to HR. I didn't say anything because I was just like, it's a double standard.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Good for you. Also, but I never told this story as well. Someone who I work with also harassed me at CNN and I didn't, I never went to management. First of all, I was a man or a woman and she knew I was gay. And it was just bizarre. She was going through a divorce. It was just weird. And I never went to management. First of all, I thought like, okay, they may find a way to get rid of me because if I tell this story,
Starting point is 01:07:09 I don't know if they're gonna believe me or not. But then she was so mean to me after that. I said, I should have told the story. But yeah, I've been harassed by men and women. But what constituted this harassment? Like, what did you, physically, like in the office, like come in and twirl for me, Don? It wasn't a twirl for me, but it was like in the office like come in and twirl for me John? It wasn't a twirl for me, but it was not it was not in the office
Starting point is 01:07:29 point Okay, hang on but what do you think Andrew what do you think that's rape That's rape. He was getting assaulted like that love this. Men need to talk more about this. Think about it. He's a gay guy. The idea of a woman touching his nipples is repulsive. You're a straight guy. Imagine a gay guy coming up to you rubbing your nipples. You'd be like, yo, what the fuck is going on here?
Starting point is 01:07:57 That's sexual assault. That is sexual assault, and that woman should be put in jail for years. I think she should be put in jail for years. I think she should be put in jail free We should find out who that that vicious woman is that's raping people at CNN I I love this I think more men need to speak out at the sexual assault that we experience Is gonna listen no one wait gonna care no one gives a shit if a man No one's gonna care. No one gives a shit if a man Vinny nobody's gonna believe
Starting point is 01:08:41 You know this has happened to you remember Monday night Tuesday night we were at the cigar lounge Yeah, my buddy Mike put us a go right in your ass Tuesday night we were at the cigar lounge. Yeah, my buddy Mike put a cigar right in your ass Nobody gave a shit nobody gave a shit that night. I go to dinner some pop you're walking funny I saw that's true some pop star was lit some pops are from the 80s is sitting at our table at dinner We're the bunch of your friends. Yeah, she's like, who are you? Oh my god starts grabbing my chest Whoa touching me and I was like, I'll take your old ass in the back room and bang you right now, joking with her. But if a man, of course, if a man was, if a man sitting down and a woman's grabbing her, the point is the crowd is laughing because she's touching me and feeling me and we're joking around. You know that's not going to happen if it's the other way around. Here's another example. Your 16 year old son bangs his 10th
Starting point is 01:09:28 grade teacher. Yo, you're the man bro. The 10th grade girl that has sex with a teacher, that guy's going to jail. It's completely double standards. And by the way, no one gives a shit. That's the way it is. This is really pissed off Adam. Yeah, yeah. You're really upset. What about that's the way it is grade. This is really pissed off Adam. Yeah. Yeah, you're really upset But let's pretend touch me let's touch me touch me now It was who was it and we gotta get back and put her out there cuz she'll get arrested You know this as being a celebrity I seen girls throwing panties on stage women run up to you. Oh, please try to talk to you all the time
Starting point is 01:10:09 You're not calling the cops because the girl wants to get close to you Women will do this. You know what happens? Yeah, but the real I mean like the real reason is because you could defend yourself like that's why we take it more serious when a guy does it to a girl than when a girl does to a guy because Like you could take that little 80s pop star and you could just throw her over a table like it's not a big deal so you can yourself is this 80s pop star boy George It was boy George that's a that's a probably he's a big guy you can fuck this shit out of you It was a woman. There's nothing you could do about Want to report I'm sorry when I walked it when I walked in today
Starting point is 01:10:43 Really turn on your I want to report it sorry when I walked it when I walked in today Natalia and Kelly both hugged me kind of grabbed on the butt and kissed me Kelly kissed me three times. Wow, that's No About this town, what do you think about this? Time hasn't busted a nut since Clinton was in office. Jesus! Tom needs touching! We need to get that pop star in here! We need to get Backstreet Boys!
Starting point is 01:11:14 I'm not going to let you do my guy Tom like this! Everything! Tom gets harassed! Tom's been shaving that goatee every morning hoping a girl would sit on it and it hasn't happened since Reagan was in office. Okay It was Bush senior Okay Now then let's get to this. What do you think about it? What do you think about somebody touching your nipples? Tom, like a girl comes up and touches your nipples. Well,
Starting point is 01:11:52 you know, so I'll tell you, you know, just thinking about it. He can't control himself. 16 years old. Yeah. English teacher in high school. Yeah. school. You know, she was this divorce woman. Yeah, she's divorced woman teaching. Yeah, it's in the book. It's in the book. You can read about it in the book. And you know, thinking back of it, I think for about the first seven seconds it was rape.
Starting point is 01:12:18 You were molested. You were molested by a Spanish kid. You were opening up Tom. My Latinx. And 45 minutes later I get even a rape her. So it's, now hold on. Are you opening up, Tom? My Latinx! And 45 minutes later I get even a rape curse. Now hold on. Where are we going with this? This is absurd. Now were you molested from the back?
Starting point is 01:12:34 Is this a guy? You're joking, I'm assuming Tom. No, I'm completely joking because we've entered the realm of the absurd. I'm trying to understand. Did you have sex with your Spanish teacher? No. what happened? nothing While you're thinking about him so fluff you really did that by the way play this next clip
Starting point is 01:12:56 Here's what I want you to see is rubbing the bottom of this table right now By the way, this is Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk is talking to this guy. Look what the guy says. Some are saying this is Jussie Smollett. They're saying they're Jussie Smollett, maybe related, but play the clip. Play the clip, Rob. I was hate crime five times in one night, okay? Three of them by Trump supporters. What happened to you? I was just walking and then I see this truck full of four white men passed by me. Um, MAGA apparel, everything, you know. They drove past me and they were like, f*** you, n***a, bend over, c***.
Starting point is 01:13:33 So they said the n-word on campus to you? Well, yes. Okay, so what happened to them when you reported them? I didn't report them. Threatening to rape you is an intent of a crime. Did you go to the police? Did you file a police report? Did you hire an attorney? Did you sue the school. Did you go to the civil rights office?
Starting point is 01:13:47 You file civil rights complaint to do any of that because you should okay? No, did you tell me yes or no? I did not but I'm not going to argue with you You're coming in front of 2,000 people to say it Why did you not go to the university and say this happened next instance? They threatened to rape me and then just drove off. Hold on So a bunch of Trump guys who are largely white heterosexual males then also threatened to rape me and then just drove off. Hold on, so a bunch of Trump guys who are largely white heterosexual males then also threatened to rape you? Different group of people, but yes.
Starting point is 01:14:11 I'm going to show you the university official and why don't you go file out, file a department education complaint and let's find these terrible people that did this to you. Can we agree? Okay. Okay. And by the way, we'll be able to look at security camera footage. He says, I'll think about that. Go back a couple seconds, plus play.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Yeah, right there. Find these terrible people that did this to you. Can we agree? Okay. Okay. And by the way, we'll be able to look at security camera footage and we'll see. Okay, I'll think about that. But you didn't do that.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Can I try to finish? You'll think about it. Hold on, why wouldn't you want to do that immediately? No, honestly, I think you're Jussie Smollett at this campus. I think you're completely making this whole thing up. I think you are a complete liar, because I am now giving you an opportunity to report this at the high. I will bring this to Linda McMahon,
Starting point is 01:14:54 the head of the Department of Education, the federal government. I will make sure these people are arrested by Cash Patel, the head of the FBI. And you'll say, oh, I'll think about it. Because you're making this up you're doing this for a political purpose so will you no seriously Cash Patel will get involved yes it's a hate crime that's not acceptable will you do this or not that's really cute Charlie but I'm
Starting point is 01:15:16 trying to give you the opportunity to alleviate hate within this group of people who have a no no idea but hold on a second there's no hate there's just love of America here in this audience that's all that's here today, okay? That's all that's here. Look at his shirt, by the way. I am my ancestor's wildest dream. You damn right you are. His ancestors were like, what the fuck is that guy?
Starting point is 01:15:34 You see why the truth matters, Schultz? You see why we care about the truth and justice, Mr. Schultz? What happened? What happened? Clearly nothing. Oh, okay. Clearly he was on his way to maybe a gay gangbang. No, but that's what we hope, right? And then, well of course.
Starting point is 01:15:51 We hope that that didn't happen. But when someone gets up there and visibly lies and then gets caught in a line, he's like, well let's get to the authorities involved. He's like, well let me. I thought it was cool that Charlie was like, listen, we have to protect against this This is a horrible thing that happens and that we will take it up to the highest levels to make sure we protect it
Starting point is 01:16:10 I like that. Do you don't want that to happen anybody you think the kid was lying? I think that was a hundred percent true How could you think how could you Now I'm not gonna lie that that motherfucker is cute Now, I'm not gonna lie. That motherfucker is cute, bro. That is a cute... Tom, admit it. That is a cute-ass dude right there.
Starting point is 01:16:30 No, no, saying those horrible things you should never do. You stoopy! That motherfucker is cute. Admit he's cute. He's a cute man. He has his hair done. He's a handsome guy. Let's invite him on the podcast. I'm sure he's out there in New York somewhere. And with respect and obviously everything consensual, but that is a handsome
Starting point is 01:16:45 Like you would believe you'd believe somebody wanted to do that, but not obviously rape don't do that Consensually that guy doesn't have a hard time getting dick. I don't know hell no why would you why would you assume? He's gay. Why would you assume his gender? It's not his gender. That's right. I didn't assume. I did assume. He was gay Yeah, I want to let's go one more time. I was going off the accent. What would make you assume that this person is a black gay man? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe just my visceral attraction to him. Maybe your 41 years of life. By the way, you don't have to play this clip. I think what's powerful about this clip is what Charlie's doing. We had dinner with a couple very interesting people last night in Miami. I don't know why it was
Starting point is 01:17:26 something Boucher, some restaurant named Boucher. Anyways I don't know what it was. What city were we in in Miami? There was a... Bobby Boucher? The Cajun restaurant? Coral Gables. Yeah somewhere we don't go often but we were there last night having dinner. Cafe Boucher. And Charlie's name came up. Dude this guy is extremely formidable. You know what's gonna be interesting with Charlie? What if Charlie throws a curveball to everybody and he runs in 2028? He's old enough right? I think in 2020 maybe.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Robbie where is he at? He's 30 right now. Born October 14th. He's a Libra. He should be, yes. 31 now. I don't see it. 28. Can you, is Charlie... Eligible? It should be eligible to run. Well you know that'd be great too because even Trump came out, I know if you saw it, he was like, they were like, so is JD Vance like your say? He's like, no, quick too.
Starting point is 01:18:18 He's like, no, I'm not, he's not. He's not the heir apparent to the successor. He's not my number two. And I mean, that's pretty, he didn't even hesitate at all. He's like, yo. He's eligible to airplane number two and I mean that's the that's pretty cool. He didn't hesitate at all Yeah, he's eligible to run 35 at the inauguration. Yeah, that's the liberal Everybody's making this thing about like who's really in charge like Trump or Elon like I have no concern about Trump and Elon's relationship everybody thinks that like Trump is gonna feel insecure about Elon like
Starting point is 01:18:44 Trump and Elon's relationship. Everybody thinks that like Trump is gonna feel insecure about Elon like Elon is Hitched to Trump for the rest of his life whether he likes it or not He can't go back to the left right because he's the villain now He's also at the highest level of government He will ever be like Elon's been dealing with like local governments trying to get shit pushed through like if you want to build something Here you got to deal with your local mayor He's been doing that for fucking decades now he's at the right-hand side of the most powerful person in the world He cannot be president
Starting point is 01:19:11 Unfortunately like you because you're not born here. That's his and I would love to change that but that is is Powerful as he will ever be and he can't go anywhere else. So Trump is like, I'm cool with this relationship. He's gonna be good and if he gets too crazy, I can be like, yo, back up, chill the fuck out and he has nowhere else to go, so he will. Vance is the one that's interesting to me and nobody talks about Vance. And why?
Starting point is 01:19:36 That guy comes from broken home in Ohio, poverty, goes to Yale Navigates Yale that's tough. You got all these like trust fund nepo babies there. They're politicking together They're building businesses together. What does he have to offer them outside of pure IQ? right Yale Does he go to business school after that or is it degree law degree or something like that? I know right off the bat he gets a internship or a job with peter teal something like that teal picks him up Obviously smart and then uh, he says some really disparaging things about trump and then manages to convince him that he should be his running mate
Starting point is 01:20:18 this is like and he has this like little kind of like Midwestern accent so obviously coastal elites don't take him seriously take that motherfucker serious like if there is one person there like obviously you saw the Zelinsky moment he made a moment for himself but he's even emotionally managing Trump in that moment he had the moment but he's giving all the credit to Trump during the moment you treat him with respect this is his office even though he's having his moment, right? So if I'm Trump, I'm looking at Vance and I'm going, what does he wanna do and is he gonna eventually
Starting point is 01:20:50 make a move? Not make a move to get me out of here. Obviously you don't want Trump's endorsement, but how much attention is he gonna wanna get? Because that guy, you do not treat lightly. Pat was, you called it from, oh my God. You said the same thing? The moment he hit the scene pat was like I don't know like even the shadows over you can't even see his eyes because his brother his shadows
Starting point is 01:21:12 Pat was like the meme all about that guy means Debating and everything we've grown like respect and like you're like giving a props But Pat has been calling it for a while Pat said I don't know about this guy Pat has been calling it for a while Pat said I don't know about this guy Great what I'm saying is do not treat him lightly like he is somebody that is a very Serious motherfucker, but here's a question. Yeah, did he do to convince him or did he get picked meaning? Let me explain what I mean by that Look when I saw him debate Waltz and the way he handled himself when he says, I'm so sorry to hear you went through that and you and your family went through that.
Starting point is 01:21:52 That was the moment where I'm like, wow. He got it. Yes, of course. Absolutely. And even liberals have to say, this seemed like a presidential debate because of the way he carried himself. Waltz didn't know what the fuck to do. He's like, wait a minute, I'm the good guy. This guy's being good. That's right. What do I do? I can't even talk. That's right. It was phenomenal. It was a clinic. Honestly, if anybody wants to watch a clinic of a debate, go watch the debate he had. The way he handled himself was so impressive.
Starting point is 01:22:19 He's stoic, he's calm, he's collected. But what I will say to Schultz is- I'm sorry, I'm not done. What happened right now? I'm still giving my opinion. Oh, I didn't know that. No, hang tight. Let me make my point. I'll say to show some sense. I'm sorry, I'm not done. What happened right now? I'm still giving my opinion. Oh, I didn't know that. No, hang tight. Let me make my point out come to you, bro. You're sitting right... I'm gonna give you your...
Starting point is 01:22:30 No, you won't. Throw something at this guy, by the way. Throw a little flip-flop at this guy. So Adam gets excited when comedians show up because he wants to show that he's a comedian. And sometimes to him, it's a very important thing. By the way, we give a disclaimer before the podcast. You're not a professional comedian. Okay?
Starting point is 01:22:49 Kick back. But anyway. So let me go back to the point with JD. So however, having said that, the part you gotta be thinking about is the following. Here's the part. I'm not deep into it to know how many of these positions are positions where a person says,
Starting point is 01:23:07 I will come and give this support and I'll bring Zuck for you and I'll bring Amazon for you and I'll bring this for you in exchange for a VP. I don't know if that happens. Do you think that's the conversation? I think it is. Interesting. I think in these moments, for somebody to say, look, I'll fully commit if you allow me to recommend
Starting point is 01:23:29 somebody as a VP, and if that happens, I'll give X, Y, Z amount of money. Now, if there's anybody that you have to be careful with doing that with as Trump, why? Because Trump's gonna do what Trump's gonna do. However, Trump's also a negotiator. For example, one of the deals that Epstein's not being released, a guy on Mannequin Circles, Alan Klein, right?
Starting point is 01:23:51 Yeah, Alan, what's up, baby? He says, why do you think Schumer agreed and he caved? You think there's any correlation with the Epstein files not being released? I don't know. Maybe it's a form of a leverage. I don't know that. You don't know that, right? So we don't know what's going on. But I think at these levels, at these high, high levels,
Starting point is 01:24:13 how big of a role did Musk play in the 2024 election? Huge. Massive. Huge. Pennsylvania. Huge. 250 contacts, relationship, calling people out, anybody that went against Trump, just kind of doing that part, so I don't know. And then Don Jr. was very complimentary of JD Vance.
Starting point is 01:24:33 There's a lot of talk about different people, and I actually think they picked the right guy, to be honest with you. I think so too. Yeah, I think they picked the right guy. When I say don't take him lightly, or make sure you take him seriously, it's not an indictment on his character
Starting point is 01:24:45 What I'm trying to say is he's not some idiot. He might be the smartest man in politics From where he came from to where he is right now. That's a tough road to go down How do you put him with Vivek? They went to school together. How do you what's the difference between the two? Vivek has a harder time communicating smart ideas to dumb people. Vivek is a genius. And he is like, actually in a lot of ways far more radical
Starting point is 01:25:14 than Trump or Elon or JD. Like they're tame compared to Vivek. Like Vivek is a true, and I mean this in like an endearing way, he's like a constitutionalist radical radical like his idea for Doge was different than Elon's his idea was like we're gonna use the Constitution to strip the bureaucracy We're gonna we're gonna go into these organizations that that he feels are not representative of people and making decisions that are not representative of what people have voted for and we're gonna use the Constitution as a Justification to strip those organizations of that power. To me, that's like a way more American way
Starting point is 01:25:50 of going about this system, whether it works or not, who knows, maybe he does it with Ohio. But I think that his trouble is, I think he's around really smart people all the time who he can take for granted certain vernacular that he's using that the average day person like me might not get. So whenever I have one on the pod, I'm stopping him.
Starting point is 01:26:09 I'm like, you're making a good point, break it down. Sixth grader. And that's really important. The best communicators are people who can do it to sixth graders. Trump doesn't talk like an Ivy League grad. He talks like a guy from around the way. And that's why, despite him being a billionaire. Did you say Trump talks like he's poor? Yeah, he talks like a guy from around the way, and that's why, despite him being a billionaire.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Did you say Trump talks like he's poor? Yeah, he talks like he's poor. You said that, right? That was such a good point you made. Yeah, this is what Democrats understand, why does some guy who got money from his dad relate to the poor people? Because he talks like that.
Starting point is 01:26:36 He talks like them. Very similar. And Vance wrote pillbilly elegy. He knows what he's doing. And he talks shit. That's not a book Vivek would write. No, of course not. And Vance was also in the Marine Corps.
Starting point is 01:26:48 With a bunch of guys. Peter Thiel hired him an investment firm in 2017 and then donated 15 million to support him in the 2022 Ohio Senate campaign. That's a lot. By the way, Peter Thiel, you know what he is? Yeah What he? there are a the next phase of the power players behind closed doors that are Super super but there's power players and then there's that and then there's super power players, and then there's that guy He is in the top five list of super power players. Yeah king. He's a kingmaker. He is a very, very unique guy.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Look, there's two things you can't teach man in life. You can read all the books. You can go to online courses. You can go to conferences. You can take whatever online course on, anything you want, you can take it, great. You can't teach instinct, you can take it. Great. You can't teach instinct, you can't teach intuition.
Starting point is 01:27:47 You cannot teach it. Instinct and intuition is pure DNA, genetics, it's you, it's what you've seen, it's what moments you've been to be able to read. You know how you talk about, and you say, I don't know why, but you know, 50, whatever 50, you know, he's never wrong. And da da da da. Okay, that's a what? That's a street guy that's got intuition. So when he calls out one guy, like,
Starting point is 01:28:10 the only way you build that is for having been in a lot of these weird, intense meetings to see and study body language. And you have to have a little bit of a rough life where it was not stable to be able to size them up. Peter Thiel is one of those guys. Adam. Thank you, sir.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Well, a couple different things Adam. Thank you, sir. Well, a couple different things here. JD versus Vivek. Clearly JD outlasted. You know, one of the things PBD always says is outwork, out improve, out strategize, outlast. He clearly outlasted him. Speaking of a fifth grader, you know, there was a show with Jeff Foxworthy, I believe. Are you smarter than a fifth grader? It's because there's actually a proven science to it
Starting point is 01:28:48 Some of the reason that Trump won in 2016 Because they actually tracked each of the how many candidates were there was a a stage and a B stage of varsity junior varsity Like Ted Ted Cruz spoke like a 12th grader. He spoke higher than anybody. People are like, I don't even know what half the thing he said was. But I sure definitely want to build that wall and drain that swamp. And Trump spoke like a 5th grader. That's been tracked. I think there's no doubt. I think, yeah, I think that might be true, but I think you're conflating two things. Like one is just having slogans. I think Democrats don't have good slogans. I think Democrats need build a wall. They just don't have it.
Starting point is 01:29:28 And like- Chop that dick. How about that one? I'm a knucklehead. How about that one? I'm a knucklehead. Just didn't catch on. Yeah, I don't know if that's gonna work.
Starting point is 01:29:37 But here's another, I think you actually, I'm actually, Schultz, for you as a comedian, as a philosopher and smart, I think you missed something here. Yeah, talk to me. I gotta tell you because I see where you're going. Yeah, see what you're doing. You're becoming a superstar I don't know talented and you said that you think that Elon You know, you think that he's hitched to Trump forever. I don't know
Starting point is 01:29:58 I don't know if you're familiar with the hero's journey in story arc. Oh cuz he was a liberal. Yeah now he's with Trump Yeah, he's with Trump. Yeah. He's 25 years Trump senior. Yeah. When Trump leaves office, Elon's gonna look around, he's gonna be like, what's next? Because you know who does this better than anybody? Do you remember when Hulk Hogan was a good guy?
Starting point is 01:30:19 Then he became NWO. And then he went back. Yeah. Even the Rock did this. Yeah. So Elon might go back from Dark Maga. You never know where he's going to go with the tech technocracy. And the reason that I'm so upset with you Schultz is because I see what you're doing. I've seen you on WWE buddy.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Yes. I've seen you versus Logan Paul out there. Can we show this Rod? I don't know if we can. Probably not. But I don't know if we can see some images. I don't know if we can see some images. I saw you strutting out there doing your thing. Oh, no. I don't know what happened with you Logan Paul. But you understand a hero's journey in story arc shows. Oh, snap. And you understand the rise and the fall brother.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Yeah, so explain what's going on here. Oh, you got pile drive? In WWE or in Power Chokes with Elon? With you, Elon, Story Arc, everything. I mean, you know, Logan came to MSG and I'm there and he wanted me to lie in front of my people and I just can't do that. I believe in the truth. I believe in supporting my New Yorkers. This is my identity. This is who I am. I'm a New Yorker, I'm an American and you're going to ask me to lie in front of all my
Starting point is 01:31:21 people at MSG? I can't do it. And then he got upset and this guy is a WWE superstar. He flipped me over the banister and then thank God AJ Styles came in and saved my ass. But we got something for Logan next time I see him. So you need a real man to save you, Schultz? What's going on? I need a real Australian with long hair to save me, honestly. Thank God he pulled up right there.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Out of all the audiences you've been in, sports, Knicks, playoffs, comedy, how does this rank? Energy when you were in there. Oh, I mean, it's so, it is fundamentally different. I would say it's, WWE's kinda similar to comedy in that it's a conversation with the audience. So even when you're not talking to them, you are communicating with them and they're reacting to what's happening.
Starting point is 01:32:05 This is with the baby face and the heel and there's always gonna be some misdirect towards the end of the match. And it's a real conversation with the audience and the people that go there, I would say it's almost like soccer in Europe where they have the chants and the people that are at the game
Starting point is 01:32:22 are intimately involved in the game. Like WWE is, for the people that know it, there's just amazing American art. For the people that don't know it, they think it's just some like backyard bumpkin shit. And it's the most misunderstood art form in America, I think, or in the world. Like you have to go and experience it. It's unbelievable. Did you ever watch his documentary? Unbelievable. Was that not one of the sickest documentaries of all time? That got me back in. I watched it
Starting point is 01:32:49 overnight and woke up early just to finish it in one night. I couldn't stop. The guy who made that is, he made another one as well. God damn it, I'm forgetting his name. I want to give him credit. You're saying the Vince McMahon documentary? Yeah. You haven't seen it? Chris Smith. I saw the first couple episodes but I didn't. Oh he didn't. I went to sleep, actually. Chris Smith, don't die. Oh, damn. He did a fire. He did another, he did a few, he did another one as well.
Starting point is 01:33:11 There's another documentary that he did, but he is brilliant. Show us, Chris. How much practice did you have to do to fake fight? I didn't even know it was going to happen. You didn't have to do any practice to fake fight? I didn't know it was going to happen. I'm sitting there with my wife and my friends watching this match and then all of a sudden Logan tries to make a moment man It was great. You had no idea. Thank God for AJ Styles, man
Starting point is 01:33:31 If AJ Styles could come in and have exact moment, I would have got my neck broken in front of 20,000 people at Madison Square Garden Who's the other guy? The guy Something speed that Tiger King Tiger King. Sorry. That's also did Tiger King. He's brilliant, this guy, Chris Smith. All right, so let's go to next story. I was gonna say, I show speed, something like that. Yeah, speed didn't work. I show speed, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he got hit, he got, did you see that?
Starting point is 01:33:53 That spear was insane. Dude, that was insane. Bro, that's the other thing, it's like, obviously, wrestling is scripted, people know that, right? But the damage these guys are taking is unbelievable. when they're when you're falling from something ten feet and then you're hitting the floor It's still ten feet. It doesn't it doesn't stop being ten feet just because you know, you're gonna fall from it So that was the most unbelievable thing watching it live. Yeah, like the damage that they're taking Yeah. Yeah, that was that was a cool experience watching you there next story
Starting point is 01:34:23 Daily wire co-ceo Jeremy boring steps down Axios A conservative media company daily wire started in 2015 announced in a memo to staff on Tuesday that he is stepping down as co-ceo To focus on creative work Saying I will remain with the company in an advisory role and focus full-time on creative projects including completion of daily wires TV series the Pendragon Cycle where he is the director and executive producer. Boring who helped launch the outlet with $4.7 million in seed alongside Caleb Robinson and Ben Shapiro grew it to a billion dollar value market media giant. He will continue hosting Daily Wire backstage Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles and
Starting point is 01:35:04 Andrew Clavin. Caleb Robinson, the company's founding CEO and co-CEO with Boring since 2019 will take over as a full-time CEO immediately. Boring's decade-long tenure saw the Daily Wire expand from a small news startup into a major player with Daily Wire subscription streaming service and Ben Key, a kid streamer, as he noted in his shift, I will remain with the company in an advisory role. This is a very nicely written article and put a valuation on the business, which is very kind. Tom, how close are you following this?
Starting point is 01:35:32 Are you following this at all? Yeah, I love to read these kind of announcements because I think they're really interesting and I think if you read enough into it, you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist or to dive in or bend the words to get the truth out of it Once upon a time he was a co-ceo There had been a lot of articles that have come out there There have been a lot of things that have been in the media of things that happen to people that have left the daily wire
Starting point is 01:35:56 That have talked about you know hey Jeremy may or may not be the easiest guy to work with there And so now he's like okay. I'm not gonna be co-ceo anymore check fact I am gonna finish some of the content well we've seen him do content we've seen him do a lot of different content over there so he's finishing up something that he's shooting the pentagram cycle okay that makes sense and I'll still be with the game when we get together for daily wire backstage okay well that's a piece of content so he's gonna drop in and do that okay I believe that and then then you come down to the rest of it, but I'll remain with the company that buys
Starting point is 01:36:27 your roles. So it's like, okay, so you're really stepping out of management, and so the translation I would do, okay, he's going to get out of people's hair, he's going to finish what he's doing on Pendergrom cycle, he may drop back in for some of the episodes, but then he's an advisor. To me, this is one of those things where you shift and roll out. And if you know anything about the history of Uber, you'll know that this is kind of what happened
Starting point is 01:36:51 until they finally just moved him out to Travis Kalanick. Travis Kalanick was a CEO who was very hard on people, and he was very, very driven. And in certain chapters of the company, they said, you know, we don't wanna do this anymore, and you're gonna go over here. And so when I read all the stuff that came before it in this it's it's you know Where there's smoke there's fire, and we've seen so many articles
Starting point is 01:37:15 To piggyback off of Tom the amount of I guess always want to be with facts right, but the amount of rumors What's it Ian Carroll did a huge like nine minute video video breakdown but he did another one when he was on you on Starbucks or what would you like just regular coffee or Starbucks Starbucks Don't touch him. Let me do it. I don't want you guys to try to molest. Thank you so much. Yeah, are you okay? Kelly, can I get a hot tea? This is delicious. Thank you, Kelly. Can I get an old Clampon with a cigar in the cutout at this point? Lapser would be great. I want a foot massage.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Go ahead, Vinny. But from what I've gathered, and again these are all rumors, but it seems like they're all pointing at this place, that this dude was one of the hardest dudes to work for. Candice just made a video yesterday. Like I said, Ian made one. Pat, if you think about it, as a co-CEO, you let go of Candice Owens, which is one of the biggest names in the social media space. Brett Cooper leaves, and you think you're gonna replace her
Starting point is 01:38:15 with her friend that tried to come in. It's obviously not working. The guy is a self-proclaimed, meaning he calls himself the God King. Rob, what was that picture that you had? Even his licensed parking spot has God King. And bro, you're not. And another rumor is that the dude shows up to work,
Starting point is 01:38:31 he ain't shooting anything, and he puts makeup on. It's like, this is just the recipe for disaster where you're trying to be the quarterback and you're not the starting quarterback, bro. And this is- How's the business doing? Not good. How do you know, though?
Starting point is 01:38:43 I just, because because of just as a content consumer I used to watch it, I used to listen to Ben Shapiro, I used to be all like wow and you know the facts don't care about your feelings and everything and then something shifted bro and I'm being... Republicans won. Yeah exactly no that's what I'm saying but then... Wait a minute what do you mean by that? Are you saying the fact that there's no longer an enemy and that's what I'm saying. But then do it. Wait a minute. What do you mean by that? Are you saying the fact that there's no longer an enemy and that's why they took a hit? No, no. A lot of times success has to do with social utility.
Starting point is 01:39:12 And there was a time where being a conservative was considered very radioactive by many people in this country and largely the mainstream media. So they needed intelligent conservatives to equip them with arguments so they could defend their positions. And Ben Shapiro is obviously a very smart guy. He's annoying, but he's definitely smart. And he's a lawyer, so he can develop these ironclad arguments. And he went around the country and he went talking to the college kids and dunking on
Starting point is 01:39:42 them and posting it. He made a huge name for himself for creating these ironclad arguments to basically help people that didn't know how to develop them themselves but felt very strongly about their conservative values. Now it's not radioactive to be conservative. Matter of fact, the majority of the country is conservative. They no longer need protection conservatives, right? Conservatives no longer need to have like ironclad arguments to prove that they're not
Starting point is 01:40:09 bad people, that they're not toxic, they're not radioactive. So the social utility has gone down and... Meaning they don't have an enemy? Is that kind of what you're saying? So there's not an antagonist anymore because you won? But I think it's more just like, at me the consumer, right? Like I think that's part of it one but I think it's more just like at me the consumer right like I think a lot of their conservative they're going after like a Christian conservatives right I think now they're like the Christian conservatives like all right well yeah it's not bad to be conservative every more matter of fact it's like cool to be conservative all the most dominant forces on in media right now are conservative so like I don't need
Starting point is 01:40:40 to defend myself anymore so I don't need to pay there's a part of it that I want to believe that but also Rob if you pull up the article that says Fox just had their most viewed viewership ever. And it was a record-breaking, I think this was just reported last week, if I'm not mistaken, Rob. Also, people are going back to traditional news, you're saying. No, no, no. Yeah, it was end of January, early early February and it was the 500 out of
Starting point is 01:41:12 510. This one this is something that came up. This is the 506 out of 506 top 506 shows out of 506 were all from Fox News, but I thought it was gonna be something where liberals were gonna you know different shows to be able to go after Trump because you know comedians like when Bush was president you know you saw Will Ferrell I'm gonna talk about you know taking you know steroidsians like when Bush was president, you know, you saw Will Ferrell. I'm going to talk about taking the steroids out of T-ball. So I thought that was going to be taking place. But the question with the business, Tom, do you know anything about their business or no? Is there any stories about the business that's public or no? I dug in trying to find some numbers saying was somebody leaking like the number of subscribers
Starting point is 01:41:42 now versus previously. And there's a few things out there that You're seem to indicate that maybe they were looking for more financing or maybe they had a little bit of maybe a little financial stress But nothing nothing conclusive with a bunch of numbers. It says subscribers went from A to B, right? We have real quick real use have I mean if you look at Brett Cooper's channel She left the comment section was her channel and her views were getting a million 712 thousand seven hundred and fifty one thousand then they took her producer and took her producer and put her in her place on the same channel And now look at the views twenty six thousand thirty one thousand twenty three thousand
Starting point is 01:42:18 So just on this channel alone you're seeing them go from seven hundred000 an episode down to 25,000. That's our friend, mind you, but that's our friend that they tried to finagle and put her in and and yeah But they're Cooper's killing. I mean also you need stars on a network right like stars gonna obviously drive attention, but um Another thing is like I think daily wire was positioning themselves not only in terms of news But they were doing like scripted content the idea was like, we're going to do more conservative leaning content. TV shows, films. And it's just like, well, yeah, now that's everywhere. How many different lawmans are there? How many different 1923? Yellowstone.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Like, every show on TV that's successful right now is conservative leaning. So it became, they were able to succeed, you could call it like when there was an enemy, they could market against it. when there was an enemy, they could market against it. They're like, hey, sign up over here because you don't get this content anywhere else. Well, now it is the prevailing content. So why do I need to subscribe to you
Starting point is 01:43:13 and get one movie a year and then get the same talking points that I'm gonna hear all these other places for free when I could just watch all the scripted TV shows I want on every different network that's out right now and I can consume a lot of the same talking points, or nah, I don't wanna say the same talking points, but get the similar emotional validation from my feelings
Starting point is 01:43:33 as a conservative from watching various other podcasts that are on the internet. It doesn't make any sense to subscribe. What's the utility in it? Just to listen to Ben? Matt Walsh to me is the only person that's getting any cultural attention may he left No, i'm saying he's the only one left. Yeah, he's the only guy that you can actually tolerate listen
Starting point is 01:43:50 He's the only one that I see getting cultural relevance and attention at that network anymore And I also think that like israel palestine thing obviously that was a big huge that was huge huge Yeah, because I don't know if you know this. Um ben shapiro. He's uh, he's jewish What yeah, that's where I got. Yeah, because I don't know if you know this. Ben Shapiro, he's Jewish. What? Ben? No way, man. That's just a cool hat. I chat GBT'd it, yes.
Starting point is 01:44:12 But Jeremy Boring, the CEO, he's Christian. But I thought he was Jewish. He's Christian. Hold on a second. See, you're assuming, Vinny, there he goes. Hold on. You're wrong, you don't need to check it. Okay, I wanted that.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Go ahead. Okay. So, but you know, Pat, you're very big on reinventing yourself You know Pat you started off talking about entrepreneurship But then you went into bodybuilding and then you went into mafia and then you went into Business and then you went into politics and then you know culture we got into Schultz here So at least we from time to time have a comedian right Vinny. So what happens is Ben Shapiro
Starting point is 01:44:42 is Ben Shapiro. You're about to have a fight. We talk about social utility. Ben, when he showed up 10 years ago, they didn't never see anything like him. It was almost like when Lenny Bruce showed up in the Comedians and they were like, who is this dude? I remember watching a lot of his content. Like you'd see him on stage at some school and was be debating like Black Lives Matter or something like that And he would have the most ironclad arguments and there was a lot of social utility
Starting point is 01:45:12 Now everybody's got it. Like what is that? There was a white space in the market and now that markets full So what else are you offering the people and then you also have then you had Steven Crowder showed up He do it was doing his thing showed up and Charlie Kirk is the goat at it right now Charlie's eating his lunch. Charlie's eating Ben's lunch. Because Charlie has Ben's talking points, but he's got that Riz. Don't underestimate charisma and the Riz. He's also a Christian. I think that's important to acknowledge. That's true. They see the yarmulke and they're like, I don't know. Not exactly to see the yarmulke, but I think that if you're somebody who is a devout believer in Christ, right? Like naturally seeing somebody else who's like opinions, beliefs, and like drive for life is motivated by the same thing as you are, it's going to be way more relatable.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Like I... Are you trying to make a like seriously? You just said the right word, relatable. In my opinion, the Daily Wire, they're almost like elitists. And they're smart, give them credit. They're like the Ivy League type people. What's up, what's up? You want to?
Starting point is 01:46:11 I put a hand sanitizer, brother. I thought you were giving me like the yeah, yeah, go at him, go at him, go at him. That's not what you get. But like a Charlie Kirk didn't go to college. He's not a lawyer. He's just a dude that read a lot of books. So he's more relatable.
Starting point is 01:46:22 Yeah, I mean, look, here's the reality of it. Running a business is very hard. It's so easy from the outside to criticize anybody that's running a business. It's so hard, it's not even funny. You lose sleep, it leads to marriages not working out, it leads to friendships not working out, it leads to anxiety, to panic, to sleepless nights,
Starting point is 01:46:41 to criticism, but you chose to do that. You chose the job. So that's not like nobody told you not to do it. You do a Netflix special and it isn't good, the market's gonna tell you. You crush it, they're gonna tell you. As a comedian, you have a risk. As an athlete, you have a risk.
Starting point is 01:46:54 As a performer, you have a risk, and they have a risk there as well. The reality of it is, when it comes onto Jeremy, my gut feeling, when I went the first time to Paramount, when the building that Glenn Beck and the Blaze bought, I said, wow, Glenn, so you run this entire place? He says, oh, hell no, I'm just a creative. I was like, whoa, you know how long it took him to say that?
Starting point is 01:47:16 Half a second. So he left to start the Blaze, and then he realized he's just a creative. He's an artist. One of the hardest things to do is to be a creative and be able to operate. That is not easy because imagine you he's trying to be an actor and he's trying to do the movie and he's trying to get into the part and then at the same time hey we just lost three employees what do you want me to do with this new guy that we hired? All right, cut!
Starting point is 01:47:46 Guys, I need seven minutes. The fuck is up with you? And then you try to smile. Hey, Jeremy, you look angry. Let me watch a cat video. Hey, two more people quit. Motherfucker, let me give me a break. Cut!
Starting point is 01:48:00 Dude, it's like, if you're an artist, be an artist. When you see Chris Chabille lose his shit, I understand. You're an artist, be an artist. Like when you see Christian Bale lose his shit, I understand. You're a creative, leave me the F alone. Put the fricking mic up. I'm trying to get into this part. You're standing there holding the shit, getting in. Do your damn job, right?
Starting point is 01:48:15 So I understand the creative. You're trying to be creative and you're trying to do this. One of the best things Greg Popovich ever told, I was about to say Derek Harper. Not, who is the guy, Derek Parker? Was it something? Tony Parker. I went back to old school. Tony Parker. You know what he said to him? He said, hey, I think I want to be the number one guy. I read the story somewhere. So he says, look, you can go anywhere else you want. You'll average 32 points a game, you'll be a superstar, you'll be up there, no problem.
Starting point is 01:48:48 You will not win championships. Tim Duncan's our player. If you wanna play point guard, you got a place here. We'll win championships. If Jeremy is able to just be creative and give his wealth of knowledge he has of, what do you call it, daily wire. And you know, who's the other, Caleb, is it Caleb? If you don't know what he looks like, that's.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Better. Probably a better singer. Right, that's what's okay. So if you. You don't want a celebrity. So if he, Caleb Robinson, I think. Caleb Howe? If he, no to the right Rob, to the right is Cable Robinson.
Starting point is 01:49:25 I think that's the guy, if he's one of the owners of. Yeah, so if the co-CEO, they mentioned the name here. Can you make sure I get the name right? Who else, the co-CEO? And Caleb Robinson. If he's the CEO and Jeremy becomes creative and Ben is doing his thing here, Bocca and he goes back and forth with Nashville,
Starting point is 01:49:44 whatever he's doing. They have to recreate themselves, but also don't forget, there's another group of people that nobody hears about, and that's investors. Investors will come in and they'll say things like this. That's not working out. What do you mean? It's time.
Starting point is 01:50:04 And then there's a very ugly board meeting, very entertaining, back and forth, and you have to find a way to make a decision gently, and slowly the person who leaves is going to tell their version of the story. Then the company, and many times they can't tell the full story, so they're the ones that are going to be bashed for a long time because they can't fully tell the whole story like I wish you knew what happened, but I can't tell you the full story. Then there's employees on the inside that are leaking information to others on the outside. So podcasters and everybody else is kind of telling their version of the story and then there's people that are leaking misinformation to confuse everybody with a story.
Starting point is 01:50:45 But it takes two three four five years and then you realize what really happened. Here I actually think Jeremy's a creative guy. He has a dream since he was a kid. He wants to do something. Go for it. I like the fact that Candice was very respectful to Ben, gave Ben the respect and I actually really like the way she did it. And I would like to see those to do something here soon.
Starting point is 01:51:07 Candice and Ben, I think it'd be great for them to do a conversation together. I'm not saying her going, but that'll never happen. I'm just saying the fact that they do something together because a team of rivals is still better than what the enemy is trying to do to everybody. Of course. If we can figure out a way to get the team of rivals to work together, it's a good thing. And trust me, I've done many jobs that the responsibility has been on me that I hated it. trying to do to everybody. If we can figure out a way to get the team of rivals to work together, it's a good thing. And trust me, I've done many jobs
Starting point is 01:51:27 that the responsibility's been on me that I hated it. I'll never forget one of my guys, we're sitting on a board, Tom, you may remember this. I said, how much do you like selling annuities? I hate it. Really? Yes, I hate it. I don't want that responsibility.
Starting point is 01:51:43 What do you wanna do? I just want to do this. I said, no problem. If I say the thing, everybody will know who I'm talking about. I said, you will never have to worry about this. Focus on this. Are you good?
Starting point is 01:51:55 The level of anxiety and panic gone. He performed well here. We gave this job to another person that Tom hired. We were good to go. Smart. So I hope this happens, and by the way, don't be surprised if somebody comes in and picks it up, and Adam, I'm moving on, don't be surprised
Starting point is 01:52:10 if somebody comes in and tries to picks it up and buy it, and there's some kind of thing that happened, great, that may also be a good, but if that does happen, guess who's doing that? Guess who's doing that, guess who's causing that? Investors. Investors are like, hey. that. Investors. Investors are like, hey. What could Daily Wire be?
Starting point is 01:52:28 It seems like a lot of these places, they can really only be incubation chambers for talent. Because the talent knows what views they're getting. They know how successful they are versus everybody else there. And they know how to create their shows. So they're like, all right, all these people like me and my show and my content. So like once my contract's up, I'll leave.
Starting point is 01:52:50 I mean, you see this happen with Barstool a lot, right? And Portnoy says it plain and simple. He's like, listen, we're here. We have like the, was it the music model? We're like, we're gonna sign a bunch of different artists. We're gonna see which one cracks, but eventually they're gonna grow out of Barstool. And you see it happen all the time.
Starting point is 01:53:06 So, like what- That's not their model though. Taley Wires model's the opposite. That's what they think, and then Brett leaves, and then Candice leaves, and then all these other people leave, and they have huge success after leaving. So now Matt's gotta be looking at that,
Starting point is 01:53:19 going, hold on, I'm getting paid this here, but if I do it myself, and I can produce all these documentaries by myself, I can make all this shit by myself, I can make all this shit by myself, I can make this amount of money? I just don't understand what their leverage is. It's not like back in the day when HBO owned a channel on TV,
Starting point is 01:53:34 and the only way you could get on that channel was through HBO. They're putting their content out on YouTube. They don't own YouTube. They have an OTT though. They have an OTT with a couple hundred thousand subscribers that's paying monthly. Which is huge.
Starting point is 01:53:46 It's a real volume, that's a real number. How much is Matt getting of that? And what if Matt could do that by himself? So you know where you go with this. Now you're talking business model where the difference is they went after people that were already established outside of Brett Cooper. Candice was already established.
Starting point is 01:54:02 Jordan Peterson was already established. So maybe a couple people that came up there. But the business model has to be questioned as well. You have to sit and question the business model. Also, sorry to keep going, but also, if you're a content creator, you have to look at going over to that place that might be viewed as radioactive and how people are gonna view you after that.
Starting point is 01:54:22 I think Peterson's been going down since being there, his public perception, 100%. Why do you say that? I don't know, I just see it, it seems skewed. I think like before, like when he was coming up, there was this bipartisan support for Peterson, the message that he had, and now I think that it's become quite partisan, like the way,
Starting point is 01:54:42 now he also got so big and naturally naturally you get successful people are gonna criticize you But I don't think that it's at the same level that it was before and I don't know if that's in diamond on daily wire But when you are next to something that is radioactive, you're gonna get some of that. I Don't disagree. I don't disagree. And again, we're gonna see what's gonna happen next with these guys and what they do, but We will we will be following the story closely to see what happens with those guys. Next story, I wanna get your thoughts on this. So married, 13 month old baby,
Starting point is 01:55:14 and on your way to maybe have another six more, who knows, seven more, eight more. God willing, God willing. There's a story that comes out with Alec Baldwin and his wife. And his video got some attention. And if you can go to it, so this is them at an event, Planet Hollywood event. If you can play this clip Rob, and some are saying this was staged to promote their show, some are saying this was not staged, some are saying this is cringe, it's acting, it's
Starting point is 01:55:43 not, it's real real play the clip rap there's a great this you're a winner oh my god when i'm talking you're not talking go back a little bit go back a little bit right yeah i think it's real it's great this you're a winner oh my god when i'm talking you're not talking no when i'm talking you're not talking this is why yes we'll have to like just cut him out of the show there it is great this you're a winner. Oh my God. When I'm talking, you're not talking. No, when I'm talking, you're not talking.
Starting point is 01:56:10 I got to know the whole context of this. That could just be sarcasm. They could just be busting balls. Yeah, because I mean, there's no way. Like that's insane. Also, she said how many kids? Seven of them. Say whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:56:25 You squeeze out seven kids, say whatever the fuck you want. How many do you have now? Four. Four. Three more, your wife can't be like, yo, when I'm talking you're not talking. Seven kids? Jen would never. No, that's not her personality.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Besides Jen not even saying it, can you imagine what Matt's But that's that that is not Jen's personality at all, you know until I saw this I didn't know how much we miss Sean Connery Sorry Yeah, I don't know. I mean like again, I don't know if they're being sarcastic and they're playing into something It's just this small little, you know What is it worth looking at 10 seconds? I'm just aware of like how often I'm taken out of context So I have empathy for when people are potentially you're becoming very empathetic. It's a very beautiful thing I love a kid you start to do that It's honestly probably not a big deal leave the man alone
Starting point is 01:57:25 Already also she's not afraid like he's a killer man like if he literally Like if she's not she's gonna get shot like there's no This is gotta be set up. Yeah, I mean he might have done that imagine the Imagine the type of cloudy as around the house when she starts acting up and he goes Yeah, I mean just you don't that thing you say that again, I'm gonna go get an unloaded exactly Yeah, we also the movie white man can't jump. I'm gonna go my car I'm gonna go to my car, I'm gonna get my gun. Shoot everybody's ass. Everyone's like, run!
Starting point is 01:58:05 We're all outta here, but by the way, how old do you think he is? Talking about White Bang Gang, were you in, no, what were you, no, you weren't in, you were. The remake of it. The remake. Yeah, I was in the remake. They're like, get me all the white guys who can't jump.
Starting point is 01:58:15 In the locker or something, yeah, it was sick. Yeah, thanks man. Yeah, it was sick. The original is still The Goat though. Stopped it way better. Shout out to Jack Harlow and whatever that was, but stop it guys What do you what do you what do you who made the movie? What would he made the movie?
Starting point is 01:58:30 What I mean snaps was good, but what are you? That were incredible. No, no, no, no He was incredible You know how hard it is to watch that movie now every time I watch it. I'm like, bro, don't do it Don't don't go Please like I'm just hoping every time I watch it is gonna change his mind But it keeps happening listen to 40 years later 30 years later. He still does the same thing He's still worried about the Snooki brothers. Yeah, that's right
Starting point is 01:59:00 The Snooki brothers. Alright, so not much here for you. Let's go to the next story Rob Yeah, I kind of want to go through this story. China, Hong Kong threatened to toward sale of Panama Canal ports to America's Black Rock. Very, very weird, interesting thing happened here when you look at this. Okay, very interesting thing happened here when you look at this. Very interesting thing happened here. China and Hong Kong push back against the $23 billion deal where BlackRock, a US investment
Starting point is 01:59:32 giant would buy a Panama Canal ports, crystal ball and Balboa, one is at the North Atlantic and the other one is at the South Pacific, from CK Hutchinson owner Hong Kong billionaire Lee Ka-shing with Hong Kong leader John Lee saying it deserves serious attention president Donald Trump praises it as the US reclaiming the canal but Beijing probes into antitrust and national security concerns that could retail it Derail it as expert Gordon Chang warns if Beijing stops this deal That's a direct challenge to the president United States on an issue that he really cares about. The canal handles 5% of global trade. The deal, which includes 43 ports from 23 different countries, aimed to counter Trump's
Starting point is 02:00:12 claim that China used the canal to rip off US ships and fees, but Lee jabbed at Trump saying, we oppose the abusive use of coercion of bullying or bullying tactics in international economic and trade relations. Tom, your thoughts on this. Well, first of all, what's really interesting is if you know anything about Hong Kong billionaire Lee Kexin, he's known as Lee Kexin, right? Because of the deals that he's done. And he did tremendous deals starting in the early 90s with cellular phones and everything and it was Hutchinson
Starting point is 02:00:46 Wong Poa which is now his derivative CK Hutchinson. So this guy is like a major major player. He's not a casual player but he's always been a Hong Kong guy, not a China guy. He's always been a Hong Kong guy. And then he's got his son who's usually is kind of screwed things up. Well what's interesting here is Blackrock comes in and says hey we'll buy these two things for you know 23 billion dollars we'll buy these two ports so that would be like you saying
Starting point is 02:01:16 I'm gonna buy the Cypress Creek on ramp to I-95 and I'm gonna buy the Sunrise on ramp to 95 so if you want to go on I-95 between I'm gonna buy the Sunrise on ramp to 95. So if you wanna go on I-95 between those, you gotta use those on ramps. So it's a smart move by Trump. Trump asked them to do it. Trump said, hey, could you go buy these and then you'll own it and you'll make a lot of money because what has China been doing? They've been building these oversized bridges and they've been also building infrastructure
Starting point is 02:01:42 down there because they wanna screw with the West and control of the Panama Canal. And Trump's like, I got an idea. You buy the two on ramps on either end from Li Ka-sheng. You do that. And that way we'll have kind of a stalemate with China trying to put its influence on the Panama Canal. And who's the first person to speak up? Beijing.
Starting point is 02:02:03 Hang on a minute. I think this deserves serious attention, whatever that is in Chinese, right? And then says, and we think there could be anti-Trump antitrust and national security concerns. And we're like, we agree yours, not mine, yours. And so I think this, this is a good deal for the U S to neutralize what China's been doing at the Panama Canal. And if you don't know how important it is, you should watch some of the stuff that we've
Starting point is 02:02:30 done and that this man has done because we've talked about how big and important this port is. Yeah, I mean, this is 43 ports that they bought in the canal right now. There's five ports. Okay. China owned two of them. We owned a very small port that they call now facility. Singapore owned a small facility, and I think Thailand owned
Starting point is 02:02:50 a small facility. Now we bought two of them. One is here in Atlantic, the other one is here in Pacific. Very, very important that that is now taken in person. But there's a couple things that the history with this is unique. This guy, C. Hutchinson, the founder, the owner of it, back in the 90s, he had a real estate deal that he did that G prevented from happening. So the two have history for many, many years of this taking place. And, you know, while this is going back and forth, he does real estate sell-off in 2020, 2021, way before and he did not like that. So now he's selling this and the deal happened very quickly.
Starting point is 02:03:28 By the way, on the back end, think about it on the back end. BlackRock, what happened to BlackRock last four years? Positive or negative? DEI negative. Okay, DEI, you got the net zero deal, you got ESG. So watch this. Whoever did this deal, brilliant. In January, if you can go, Rob, and you look at the net, what was it called?
Starting point is 02:03:48 Type in net, not net zero, what's the, type in zero black rock climate change. Type in zero black rock climate change. It should be January. Zero emissions? Net zero statement, right there, net zero. Go to, yeah, if you can go to net zero, go back a little bit, Rob, to see under the news.
Starting point is 02:04:09 Go to news, if you can go to news right there. Zoom in a little bit, look at the dates. BlackRock quits climate change, climate group as Wall Street lowers environmental profile. You know how big of a deal that was? This was the $60 trillion deal that BlackRock was like, we're gonna go fix climate change, and you better be a part of it, and you better have a high ESG score or else. Remember that whole thing that we were talking about? Boom. BlackRock
Starting point is 02:04:31 says we're out. Then in February, what do you think they do? In February, I think it's 24th, they say we're out of DEI. When do you think the deal happens? First week of March. So whether this was, and by the way, you know who coached them through the process of this deal getting done with Panama Canal? Scott Bessent, Marco Rubio, President Trump, and others coached them through the process of doing this. And you know how quickly this sale happened? Like this, very quickly.
Starting point is 02:05:00 And President Trump's been complimentary of BlackRock, I think, founder Larry Fink in 2017 saying he made him some money in the past before. Here's the question and a concern. The main question we have to ask is the following. It's two questions, and see how you feel about this. Do you feel more comfortable BlackRock owning the Panama Canal? Do you know what type of leverage that is? Let me tell you. If people were worried about tariffs, if we, US, BlackRock, owns the canal against them,
Starting point is 02:05:32 China, they came up with something written by the BBC that said any company that's based out of China, at any point we can seize that company and control the decisions. You know what it means? If China wants to say C.K. Hutchinson, from China, U.S. is not playing ball with us with tariffs, guess what we're doing? We're stopping anything to go through Panama Canal.
Starting point is 02:06:00 China could do that. With a law that they passed in 2020, Rob, I think if you can have Brandon send it to you, something that they did in 2020, 2021 when they wrote about it. So the question becomes, are you more comfortable with these two ports being owned by China, CK Hutchinson, or BlackRock? That's the question. Andrew, what do you think? Andrew Sivak I feel like once an American company gets big
Starting point is 02:06:22 enough, they just become an arm of the State Department. Not an arm, but the decisions that they make at the highest level will be to the benefit of what the State Department believes is for America. Let's hope. Sometimes these companies make a lot of money and it doesn't really help American citizens and we have a lot of resentment for that. Google works for America. Facebook works for America. I wonder if BlackRock works for America and that's Trump Google works for America, right? Facebook works for America. And I wonder
Starting point is 02:06:46 if BlackRock works for America and that's Trump essentially going, yo, go buy that. We're going to tell you what to do with it, right? And we're going to administer whatever geopolitical leverage that we need to administer through you, but we'll let you reap the benefits from it. The annoying thing about that is that I don't know if the American people are gonna get the advantages of the American military which is backing BlackRock owning this, owning this like very you know prestigious piece of like geopolitical leverage. Like if it's a profitable endeavor I want that to trickle back to the American people not Larry Fink. So and it's not we can't just go buy it. Why don't we just go buy it?
Starting point is 02:07:26 I wonder if when we buy it then it's an international flare-up So we almost have to do it through like shell corporation, which is blackrock If we do it China goes, this is war if blackrock does it we just go. Hey, that's blackrock It was the biggest fund manager in the world. We got nothing to do with that. But then Trump calls Larry and goes Larry This is what I need you to do. And then he better do it. Yeah. But it's a shame.
Starting point is 02:07:49 I want the American people to win. Tom, what do you think? Well, I see the logic in that, but there's also something else. When the states, you know, cause you know, the US states cannot run a deficit. It's law. At the end of the, of a year,
Starting point is 02:08:02 if a US state has a deficit, it's gotta go to the federal government, it's gotta go to bonds, it's gotta figure it out. It's gotta balance the books. It's law at the end of the of a year if a US state has the deficit It's got to go the federal government's gotta go to bonds got to figure it out It's got to balance the books its law if only the US government was like that Well interesting point guess what? The things that states have trouble building is infrastructure the things that states have trouble handling is widespread natural disasters so when it came time for all for is widespread natural disasters. So when it came time for prisons and infrastructures,
Starting point is 02:08:27 you take a look at the amount of private prisons in the United States. Do you know Montana has no prisons built by the people's money? They're all built privately. Andrew, build me a prison, I'll send you guys to keep track of, and I'll pay to keep track of those guys, but I don't wanna build the prison,
Starting point is 02:08:42 but we'll give you the 30, 40 grand a year so that you can operate it. I think this is no different. It's like, you know, we're trying to save money, not spend money. Tell you what, you buy it for $23 billion. That serves our interests, but if anything happens or goes wrong, you know, the US Navy's gonna be there,
Starting point is 02:09:02 we got your back. And I think it's that simple. And by the way, Lee Keshing is 96 years old. So if you want to get in there, talk about AutoPen and see if he did it, if his son did it, this is the time to do it. Yeah, I gotta pee real quick. Yeah, you guys keep going. Go ahead, you go pee. By the way, don't get harassed because there's a bunch of girls out there. Tom, out of fun facts, you know, you know, their EBITDA was 1.7 billion and BlackRock bought it for 13x EBITDA and they said usually these ports, the comps are 16x EBITDA. So
Starting point is 02:09:36 some say he was supposed to pay 5 billion more, but then Morningstar analysts said this was only a 10 billion dollar deal and they paid $13 billion more. Now we know which way Morningstar leans and what they're going to be saying, so who knows what the story is being told here. But I'm actually curious in what's going to happen. This is one of the things I personally am very excited about. You know why?
Starting point is 02:10:02 Because 70% of the traffic at the Panama Canal is US. 70%. 70% is us. So guess what, ETH, and just cross your fingers that this gets picked up in US, because the only concern I have with BlackRock owning it is this. I don't have a problem with BlackRock owning it now with Trump being the president. I have very big concerns on who runs BlackRock next and who is president next. Because if a China, you know how you play Monopoly? What are the two pieces you don't want to lose?
Starting point is 02:10:37 If you could say two pieces. Boardwalk. Boardwalk and what? Park Place. Okay. Let's just say those two pieces right before you get what? Cash, you pass school, you get $200. Okay. Let's just say those two pieces right before you get what cash you pass go you get $200 Okay, imagine somebody just gives that up to somebody else
Starting point is 02:10:50 You're like good. Why'd you just sell that to you're not supposed to sell boardwalk and Park Place China if this deal goes through lost boardwalk and Park Park Please you know how long this guy's owned it, CK Hutchison? Almost 25 years, give or take. Because if we buy this piece and keep it, China will do everything it can to make sure this deal doesn't go through, and even more to make sure they buy it back from the next person that becomes president. You're going to see this is not over with.
Starting point is 02:11:21 Those are because the level of leverage. So now imagine Trump was to go and say, I'm going to put tariffs on you, China to go and say I'm going to put tariffs on you China. Oh yeah I'm going to put tariffs on you. No problem the ports closed for you. Oh wow. Leverage. Like at the highest level. Because if you don't go the difference is 5,000 additional miles give or take. Forget it. And the amount of time that it takes to go through forget it
Starting point is 02:11:45 Yeah, so this is a very very big deal if they get it done Who the hell even thought about this before they talked about nobody People that brought this to Trump or if this was Trump's idea on his own. This is massive Tom Absolutely, and I think there's something else here that we have to remember during the height of inflation There was a secondary inflation effect that was in Europe. You know what it was called It was called Yemeni guys in rubber boats that were interfering with with the with all the boats International trade getting to the Suez Canal and they start down there at the horn right at
Starting point is 02:12:26 right at Yemen so you had the Houthis you had the Yemen pirates you had all the stuff and you have there was a very average Tom Hanks movie way back when that talked about you know piracy but that's it now but that was that's what was going on down there and that was impacting inflation on food coming into Europe. And it had a dramatic impact on inflation. And so the US Navy said, all right, the hell with it. We got all these extra torpedoes, let's play fun, shoot to kill. And all of a sudden the pirates kind of stayed home.
Starting point is 02:12:58 Like I said, this is two of the most, like if right now we had an unlimited amount of supply of companies to buy, there's three pieces that we'd love to buy. Okay. Three assets that we would love to buy. Very important to buy these three assets. Right. Just this is privately you and I talk about this regularly. Sure.
Starting point is 02:13:17 This is a this is a top three of the fact that if they get this deal that China is going to do everything in their power to prevent this from happening. Where's the deal? Everything. It's not done yet. It's not done yet. Okay, so how long you think as people that know about this type of stuff, how long would
Starting point is 02:13:36 that take and what can China do to what? Give more money? What happened to Jack Ma? When's the last time you heard about Jack Ma? He disappeared! I can't hear Andrew, what's the last thing happened to Jack Ma? When was the last time you heard about Jack Ma? He disappeared! I can't hear Andrew. What's the last thing that happened to Jack Ma? He's red.
Starting point is 02:13:47 Can you turn him on? He became magically invisible for about two years, allegedly in Singapore, allegedly in Tokyo, and didn't say a word. What happened to Jack Ma could happen to this guy here. Anyways, two more stories before we wrap up. Your friend Myron Gaines just did a super chat, so let me read it to you. Vinny, I hope you're ready for this as well. Israel killed JFK to protect their nuclear program.
Starting point is 02:14:09 Israel killed RFK because he was snooping around and never trusted the Warren Commission and tried to make them register under FARA. David Ferry and Jack Valenti were shooters. You're welcome. Tell Schultz. Are you guys like that close? Like are you guys like hanging out like might have a dinner together? Yeah, that's my buddy. That's what I do. I hang out with a guy like him. No. This is gonna make his day. I can't believe we're even mentioning him on a show like this.
Starting point is 02:14:43 Put a hundred dollar super chat. He did two super chats. I mean that's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. Oh, so wait, we're live now so anybody? He paid super chat. Yeah, he paid super chat. Oh, he's paying for that too. Yeah, he paid super chat. I mean this is like Chipotle's on us and he paid for it.
Starting point is 02:14:55 Yeah, but shout out, shout out him. I didn't know that you were paying for Chipotle. 100%. But he's definitely right. He's got all the answers. Absolutely. There's nobody that understands geopolitics better than him 100%. He's got it. I'm 100% sure. Why that understands geopolitics better than him a hundred percent. He's got it I'm a hundred percent sure. Why am I getting a lot of? Why would anybody else know more why would there be any other expert? Talks about dating relationships, you know, of course a hundred percent a hundred percent. It's it is him What do you think Pat? Do you think he's got all the answers? But if can you do one thing this is just the latest internet grift What do you think? I will tell you he's a very good communicator and this is one of those things that I think he is
Starting point is 02:15:33 Willing to die on you don't gotta lie, bro. No, no He's a very good can you do me a favor pull up the one story about On jonath kjarn F. Kennedy that you guys talked about I think on Unusual. You know there was three of the files, one of them having to do with Israel, is there anything there? He's going to have so much fun with it. You're giving oxygen to these poor guys.
Starting point is 02:15:57 You just got to let them go die off. It's close. It's almost done. You think? No weapon formed against me shall prosper, bro. It never happens. Is that the Bible? They all get, yeah, they all just destroy themselves. Oh, so I-
Starting point is 02:16:09 You guys have beef? Is that what's going on? I don't even think about it. We can move on. I have no idea that there's issues, just so you know that. He has a little obsession with me. Okay. It's a cloud obsession.
Starting point is 02:16:19 Like, it's not just that they're like, I guess now you get to a point, you guys have probably experienced this, like you get to a point where like your name has currency online So you add your name to something and then oh trust spin whatever narrative I got exactly so now you're giving you know You're you're getting him a couple bucks. He'll get a couple bucks out of this, but you're welcome So he paid 200 maybe he gets 250 back. You know all right I don't know why it's the name of the game. It's the name of the game all right, so what's this Rob? What's this one you pulled up? This was one of the documents that implicated that Israel may have had something to do with the assassination of Jeff. What does it read?
Starting point is 02:16:51 She was on the visual background check on shop on some exam Angela CI directors permitted Angleton can't read the rest projects many of them their intelligence service Israel intelligent he was given authority by the CIA. Okay. What does this mean Rob? To be honest with you I'm not sure I've not read into the Israeli Connection read the 80,000 documents in the last 24 hours You know what? I'm wrong by the way I think this is gonna take a couple weeks because even some of the stuff grok and Chad GBT saying right now Yeah, it's contradicting itself, but I hope I
Starting point is 02:17:27 Don't care who was behind it. I just want to know I hope we get a hundred percent to the bottom of what happened here With the story said the answer. He's I mean if Myron said it, it's That as his intro let me let me ask you a question Do you think if it was Israel or if it was the CIA or if it was one of them? Do you think that they would actually release the 80,000 pages that would prove it was one of them you just released the one page Like the fact that it's 80,000 pages makes me go. Okay, nothing's in here if because we don't want to read all 80,000 They just want to know who did it. So there's one page of who did it and it's not in the 80,000 Yeah, I didn't take a genius to put that together
Starting point is 02:18:06 Like if there was proof that it was one if it was the CIA if it was Israel, whoever the fuck it was It was Russia. Yeah, you just released the page. It says that's who it was, but it's not in there But you're not gonna find you're not gonna find like a to-do list from the desk of Dulles to do things today dry cleaning lunch, lunch with Fred, kill president, and have them all three checked off. You're not going to find something like that. Let me just say one thing. I think you're making the point that I'm making. You're not going to find it.
Starting point is 02:18:34 If you're going down the list of likelihoods, CIA, Alan Dulles, LBJ, the FBI, the Cuban missile crisis, the mafia, the Mossad, whatever, It's like, well, how fucking bad is the CIA to let a foreign entity, whether it's Israel, Saudi, Qatar, China, whoever it is, into the country and kill the president? Well, the argument is that they would want it to happen. So here's the thing. So it's probably the CIA. So that goes back to what we were saying in the beginning. Like if you, if you know somebody is going to do something and you're allowing them to
Starting point is 02:19:09 do it. Thank you. Who's the, but who, but who's really responsible? Are they responsible for doing it? The guy calling the shots, not the guy who pulls the trigger. No, but I get what you're saying. I get what he's saying. You share responsibility.
Starting point is 02:19:21 If you know, if you, let's just say, let's just say, if you know that on this day, and there's been rumors from this guy, that planes are gonna go into a building and you don't say shit and you let it happen, what he's saying is, do you blame the government or do you blame the guys that are coming in to do the bombing? True.
Starting point is 02:19:38 Now it's like, holy shit, where are we at? That's a great question. How about this, who convinced them that it was in their best interest to even do it? Oh God, that gets even deeper. I mean if you really want to know how like, listen, let's be conspiracy theorists for a second. Let's just like play.
Starting point is 02:19:51 Okay, this is kind of fun play. Vinny's out there every day. What is it like, what is it before, when does Navalny get killed? Navalny in Russia? Yeah, yeah, when does he get killed? 18 months ago. It was like a week before we sent like 200 million dollars over to Ukraine. Okay, so like let's say we need some support for sending money to Ukraine and we need to, you know, we can't just send 200 billion, we got to make this Putin guy look like an
Starting point is 02:20:14 absolute fucking psychopath even though we already know he's a psychopath, but we got to make him look even more like a psychopath. So let's kill his one opposition, the one vocal opposition that's in in a jail in Siberia. He's not gonna do anything anyway. Why would you even need to kill that person? Okay, well, if he ends up dead, maybe we got a little bit more support to send $200 billion worth of weapons. Let's just say, this is all hypothetical bullshit.
Starting point is 02:20:35 There's no proof to any of this stuff, I'm just saying. Now, if we kill him, maybe that's war. So maybe we need somebody else that's got really good intelligence to go out there and get something done. They might even have somebody that's working in the prison. Shit, they had someone that was working at the head of the Syrian Defense Force. Why wouldn't they have somebody working in a prison or a friend that was working?
Starting point is 02:20:53 Maybe that's Mossad. So then you tap Mossad, you go, hey, can you go do that thing for us? Thank you, appreciate it. I'm just saying, is that how it works? We don't know. Nobody knows the directionality. But to me, we're the one who knocks. We're not the one that gets told what to do. We're the one who does the telling.
Starting point is 02:21:10 That's what we've been doing for the last fucking 100 years. So like why are we pretending like we got our dicks tucked between our legs? Why do Americans want to even believe that? Like, come on, let's be a little bit more realistic here. Do you remember the story of Robert Moses? Oh yeah, the
Starting point is 02:21:31 Developer the developer the stuff that he did. So the stories you hear about this guy. He was never a money guy But he knew how to get the money guys to own favors and all the money guys feared him It's not necessarily always that You know the rich guys That get things done. Sometimes the guy like a J Edgar Hoover or the mob or guys like him who have so much intel on somebody that they can get them to do things
Starting point is 02:21:54 that they typically wouldn't do. So it's also whoever has the most intel to be able to bribe, to be able to hold hostage, to be able to do a lot of different things. There are many different business models at this level, and it can get nasty. So yes, I agree. Who the hell knows what happened there behind closers and who's pulling the strings? Who knows how many times we've asked MI6 to go handle some business for us?
Starting point is 02:22:16 Oh, for sure. The French, whatever the fuck. It's like when you say, when we say allies, like yeah, we're gonna go bang out in a world war, but I think allies now means like the the sharing of of important information and the execution of violent Acts yes, and sometimes those violent acts can't reflect back on you Like what is I mean the Houthis are essentially I don't know enough to even talk about this, but that's Iran backed, right? So yeah, we're saying the Houthis are doing it,
Starting point is 02:22:45 but it's really Iran doing it, right? So yeah, okay, let's hold the Houthis responsible. They're the ones setting the missiles. But if the missiles are from Iran, the money's from Iran, is it Iran that's doing it? Oh, for sure it's on Iran, yeah, no, no, for sure. Sometimes everybody needs a little bit of a proxy, and sometimes people have a little bit more intelligence
Starting point is 02:23:01 in a region, so then you go tap them to go do the thing. And then conspiracy theorists run fucking wild on it. I wanna know is the first domino with this. That's all I want. I can't wait for it to come on This let me do this last one. Let me do the last one and we're done Kanye West says Fuck Jay-Z and Beyonce drags own kids into mess and latest expletive filed tirade Adam you said you wanted to talk about this. What's going on here? What is a story here that you wanted to talk about this one here. Let me see, what's going on here? What is the story here that you wanted to talk about to wrap up with? This one's ugly, man.
Starting point is 02:23:30 Really? What is this one? It's getting so stupid. I don't even know if you wanna give this attention, bro. You don't want that on your heart. Then go ahead. I mean, it's just. I don't know what it's about.
Starting point is 02:23:40 This is about the, let me just read this. Kanye West, the Yeezy founder raged on X Against x-wise Kim Kardashian a reality TV star. We know we don't need to explain that over their daughter Now you're getting the kids involved Northwest vocals saying so Kim got me the name and likeness over my black Children after rapper Playboy Carti asked her Kim Kardashian tell my niece North to send me a song West fumed. So a white woman has control over the name and likeness of my black children. She's your ex wife and mother of the children Kanye and then speaks
Starting point is 02:24:17 to Cardi about putting my daughter on a song with him triggered by Cardi's request to following Kardashians Instagram post of a song mentioning her skims brand West Blasted Kim K for blocking his track. She blocked him lonely roads still going to sunshine featuring 11 year old North and Sean did he comes what is the story about I? Thought you were talking about another one that was up there for a second, which I just think it's like don't even give attention What is this? What is this one? What I don't even know what this is about So essentially Kim owns the rights to I guess the the copyright to the name of their kid You know, so I don't know how that works and their business. I don't know. That's exactly what it is. So
Starting point is 02:24:59 Yeah, I'm not trying to make my kid famous To me, the disgrace that is now Kanye, you know, they say you have to separate the art from the artist sometimes, right? Gifted artist. I mean, we all listen to Kanye's music. Nobody's denying that. But whatever he's doing, whether it's the Nazi symbols, whether it's he was dressing up in the KKK and the Klu Klux Klan thing the other day, selling Nazi paraphernalia.
Starting point is 02:25:31 Imagine you are his daughter because now the kids are involved. He's publicly talking about his kids. Now the kids are involved. Imagine what it's like being those kids growing, going to school. They're 10, eight, 15, however old they are. Yeah. Dealing with, isn't your dad Kanye West, the black Nazi, the racist, the, yeah, imagine the kids dealing with this. You want to go ruin your life and ruin your reputation or in what you think becoming a martyr Exposing what you think you're exposing when you've already been clinically diagnosed with bipolarism or Schizophrenia or on the spectrum do it Kardashianism do you bro, but now you're getting your kids involved and they're gonna pay the price
Starting point is 02:26:18 Yeah, yeah, it's fucked. You seem very like Disgusted but no there was just another thing that he tweeted that I've got you pulled up for a second But the other ones were about Jay-Z and Beyonce so apparently he's just I mean I don't know if it's had his mind But he's lost it what little mind he had left and he was calling their children all kinds of names mental retardation insinuation so About Jay-Z's kids.
Starting point is 02:26:45 Whoa. When you're messaging all in caps, like he's, I feel bad. What do you think is actually going on with this guy? Like do you think that there's... Look, I mean, I'll go very, three levels lower than this. Remember when Ryan Garcia was doing what he was doing last year? You know, like, what are you doing? Like, some of the stuff was a little bit far and he was getting the eyeballs.
Starting point is 02:27:10 Maybe it was last year, a year and a half, I don't know when the fight was, whenever the fight, you know what I'm talking about. Notice it's been very quiet for a while, right? Who's in your ear? I have no idea who's in your ear. I have no idea who's in your ear. And sometimes it goes back to what Aaron Spicer said, many, many, 20 some years ago to me. He says one of the worst things about being an artist is he says, are you good with a lot of
Starting point is 02:27:36 idle time? I said no, I need to always be doing something. He says this isn't for you. He says it's not good for you. He says artists screw things up when they have a lot of time on their hands. Sometimes having too much time on your hands, your imagination goes. You know, it's like the athlete that retires and comes home now is around the wife all the time, they're fighting all the time. Yeah, because you used to have somebody else to fight,
Starting point is 02:27:58 now it's your wife you're fighting with. So, I don't know. I don't know what's going on here. And he got divorced, I believe, again. From the latest one, Bianca Singsworth. Yeah, but that could've been a publicity. That could've been a publicity. She was blunt naked, just,
Starting point is 02:28:09 just waiting around blunt naked. Anyways, gang, if you're watching this today, remember, you have an appointment this weekend. You have an appointment. And by the way, if you wanna accelerate that appointment to tonight, you can do that. Yes, go watch it. Put it in your calendar and go watch the life, Andrew Scholtz life and
Starting point is 02:28:27 watch it with your spouse and FYI if you're not even married yet, if you're engaged or if you're dating someone that's pretty serious that you may get married one day, watch it with her and with them. Trust me on this. You're gonna say thank you afterwards. This is one of the sickest specials I've ever watched and it's one of those things that I'll be recommending. In 30 years, there's a lot of specials that you won't recommend after a year or two years or five years or ten years. In 30 years this will be recommended to husbands and wives because what he talks
Starting point is 02:29:02 about in there's evergreen permanently. Of course, unless if AI comes at him, we're no longer. Fix it all. All of a sudden, you know, it is what it is. When you pass this to Schultz, I got him a gift. Put it on. Thank you very much. This is what you put on your desk. Schultz, everything you're doing out there. Oh, thank you, bro.
Starting point is 02:29:16 And then here you go, Schultz. One for you. I usually give them out to hot chicks. God bless America, buddy. What is that? American flag. You know it. How nice of you. Thank you, my brother. You're a. You know it. How nice of you. Thank you my brother. You're a talented mother fricker.
Starting point is 02:29:27 Appreciate you taking that. Definitely, that's gonna stay here. But I appreciate that. I think one on my back. Andrew, you're the man. Love you, man. Keep shining, keep doing what you're doing. We love seeing everything that's happening.
Starting point is 02:29:40 Feeling is mutual, my brother. God bless everybody. Take care, forgive Adam. Future looks bright. Take care, bye Adam. The future looks bright. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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