PBD Podcast - Kari Lake | PBD Podcast | Ep. 307

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

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All right, so we got a special guest here with us, youngest of nine children in media for 30 years, decides to get into politics, runs for governor, her opponent and her had a debate with Katie Hobbs it was the most watched debate of all time because they never had record breaking views and before I properly bring her up I want you to watch this video before we get into this podcast go for it. Reports out of Washington say Carrie Lake is getting ready to run was an announcement expected in October and she's gonna probably run for Senate in 2024.

I could totally see you in the United States Senate. What's the latest? Are you gonna do it? She's gonna do some interviews starting in what September or maybe an announcement is Carrie Lake gonna get into this race? These are the questions. What's next for Carrie Lake?

It is my duty to the citizens of Arizona to stay. They think that I'm going away. They got another thing coming. Nice. Fantastic. So we're going to stay to and hopefully on this podcast. What that being said, carry. it's great to have you. Yeah, it's so good to be here, Patrick. We're locked in the vault this morning. We are locked in the vault. Doors closed, everything's in oxygen levels are perfect.

Mike's working. We got a lot of things to talk to you about. Folks, if you're watching this, you fallen one of three camps. You either 100% no matter what Kerry says, you don't believe that what happened in Arizona Was fraud you believe that she lost you part of the camp that's there's no way she won You're either part of the camp that you know for a fact she won you're like no she did win

That was fraud done Why were some places waiting for five and a half hours and you have to go from one place to the other place and if you were watching Her election and you you were following it, you saw her actually going to different ballots and kind of seeing why is this thing now working? Or are you part of the undecided camp saying, look, I still don't know, I just kind of want to know the proof of what's taking place. Regardless of where you are, we're going to talk about that today.

We want to talk to you also about what happened with the new sum, the Sanctus debate actually happening on Fox, which is kind of weird. And in recent weeks, newson's kind of gone away from the left and has gone more to the center with some of the decisions he's making. What is he doing there? Is there something going out there?

You also made some comments about Christine Ohm, about potentially her thinking that she's gonna be the VP. A lot of people are thinking, you may be the VP. You're in a very, very important state. But also before we get into some of these issues, I kind of wanna go back a little bit with you because I think the audience needs to know the evolution. 30 years in media, right?

You've gone from being a Republican to being an independent, to being a Democrat, to having a great interview with Obama. It seemed very friendly when he and you were talking to each other was phenomenal and you become a Republican and then, you know, even Obama went after you, Hillary went after you, holder went after you, and you've made so much noise, you've had so many viral clips whether the CNN, people have come up to you and said, hey, we'd love to do an interview,

and you said, I'd love to do it on CNN Plus. That was all over the place, whether it's you milking cows and saying, how many genders do cows have? You're very, very good when the camera's on, but before we get into some of the issues today, how did Carrie Lake become Carrie Lake? Well, if you want me to go all the way back to my childhood, I'm the youngest child

of a mom that was a nurse and a dad who was a high school football coach and a history teacher and government teacher back when you actually taught real history and real government. And the youngest of nine children, we were poor growing up. Nobody really told us that. We thought it was normal to have to work for shampoo and to buy our own toothpaste. We thought that was perfectly normal. But it was a great upbringing because I learned how to have a work ethic.

I had to work in order to survive and to have the things I needed. So that was a great place to grow up in Iowa. And I grew up in rural Iowa after the age of 10. My dad moved us from the city to the middle of nowhere, which I call the middle of everywhere, because I think everybody should experience what rural life is about in this great country.

And so I grew up in a little town, outside of a little town called Donnie Hue, which has 240 people roughly, and we lived 10 miles outside that town. So going into town meant going into a town of 240 people, but it was just a great upbringing. And so I had to work for everything. I decided when I decided to go to college at the last minute, I didn't even know how to go to college.

I just said, okay, a friend of mine said, well, you should go to college because what else are you going to do? I showed up and I went to college and I decided to work my way into a dream job which is broadcast journalist. Ended up working for about a year and a half in the Quad Cities where I'm from and then got called from Arizona to come out there and I immediately became a household name in Arizona

and worked my way up to being the number one newsface and news name in Arizona for 22 years. I worked as the Fox, at the Fox affiliate owned by Rupert Murdoch. And during COVID, I kind of took my nose off the grindstone for the first time after working so hard my whole life and realized that my industry had really changed and was no longer journalism. I know some people say you just figured that out during COVID, but I always felt that even though the journalism was liberal, I could kind of keep it straight when I was reporting the news.

But during COVID, I couldn't do that anymore. I mean, there was just this push to divide people, scare people, push us into our homes, destroy our businesses, and you could not speak out with a different perspective on that. And so I decided to walk away from my career. I made a lot of money. I walked away from a seven figure contract. My husband is a saint.

I don't know where he is. He's probably outside the vault right now. He's guarding the door. And to come out. Was COVID the straw that broke the camel's back, meaning prior to that Trump for four years, you must have seen the writing on the wall and the media side of things for the media bias, right?

Yes, absolutely. Go back to when Trump came down the escalator. I remember, first of all, I had interviewed Obama one year apart from my first time going to the Trump White House. So I saw the difference in how the media treated Obama and Trump because one year later, I went to the Trump White House. So I saw the difference in how the media treated Obama and Trump. Because one year later, I went to the Trump White House and it was like night and day, polar opposite. They went from being lap dogs for Obama. Everything he did, every policy he did was just perfect to attack dogs with Trump, not giving him even a chance to do anything. So. And were some of these your friends, your colleagues, people that you've known for 20, 30 years? Yeah, when Trump came down the escalator, I missed that live.

And one of the guys in the newsroom came up to me, he doesn't work there anymore, I call him the social list in the newsroom. And he would probably agree that he was the social list in the newsroom. And he was talking about how terrible this speech was at the bottom of the escalator, and it was just racist and awful. And I thought, really, this can't be, it couldn't be that bad. Everyone in the newsroom was talking about how awful it was. So I went home that night, found it on YouTube, watched it.

And it was like angels singing. I went, oh my gosh, finally a guy who is speaking my language and the language of the American people. This is what I've been looking for since I registered as a Republican in 1988 after, you know, when I turned 18 because of Ronald Reagan. I was a hero. He was a hero of mine. I was a fan of Ronald Reagan's. And then somewhere between Reagan and Trump, the Republican Party lost its way. It became the party of war mongers. And I know what happened.

I think we all do. It became the uniparty. That's when the swamp reared its ugly head. And anytime anybody speaks out against the war machine, they get brought down whether it be JFK, whether it be the attempt on Ronald Reagan's life. And here we had a guy who was audacious enough to say, I'm going to speak out against that. We don't want to start endless wars. We don't want to have a wide open border. Why is our economy not working for the middle class? I mean, he said everything that America was waiting to hear. And I noticed how the media immediately went into attack mode. And that was a bit of a wake-up call.

I mean, I was always pro-Trump, but on the air, you have to keep yourself neutral. But the people, nobody around me was keeping themselves neutral. They were going anti-Trump the entire time. Publicly. Yeah, it was acceptable for the first time as a journalist to be anti a US president on the air. And I thought there's something going on here. Did you ever have conversations with your colleagues saying, hey, listen, let's do our job. Let's be journalists, not activists. Like pull back the Wizard of Oz curtain here. What were the conversations like within your own media business?

It's really hard when you're a conservative in the news business because you are surrounded by, I would say, 95% of the people in newsrooms around the country in legacy media, mainstream media are liberal. And so you know, you know these people, you like these people. They're your friends. You work with them for 30 years, 27 years, 20 like these people, they're your friends, you work with them for 30 years, 27 years, 20 plus years, and they're your friends. There were some conservatives and you try to kind of,

when you go into an editorial meeting, you try to kind of ease into it. You're hearing all of these stories coming from a left bent and you try to ease into, and go, well, maybe on balance, we could also interview somebody who has this perspective. So you try to kind of word it that way. On balance, that was a famous line.

Maybe on balance, we should do this as well. If we're going to cover that story, on balance, perhaps we should talk to so and so, just to give it more balance. And by the way, you're saying that. That's my interest because I want to know what that world is all about behind closed doors because if you watch this this video we've all seen this video you've seen this video as well this shows how you can press play already they're all unison on the same message they're given okay we've all seen this oh yeah I what humidity's mid-missing

communities we are extremely proud of the quality balance journalism that CBS 4 news produces. But Plegging our country the sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media War alarming some media outlets published these same fake stories without checking facts first. The sharing of biased and false news has become common on the real one. Yeah, more of them. So let this world not the whole thing. We are the truth.

Oh, painful. First, unfortunately, some members of the youth are the ones who pushed their own first lives. Okay, pause right there, rap. Pause right there. OK, so check this out. This is what's weird about it. And this is kind of what I need your help with.

So you got NBC there. You got Fox there. You got ABC there. You got CBS there. It's not like it's one or the other. These are different companies. How are they all saying the same thing? Are they watching each other?

Is it coming from the pulpit at the top? One person is saying these are the words to use. These are the trigger words. This is what we all have to be united on. This is what, like, you know, the mob had these five families that at one point, the Italian mob, they made this commission that the Gambino, Genevieve's Colombo, all these families came together.

And then Lucky Luciano was running it and Lucky's the one that told everybody what to do to make sure people are not killing each other to make sure we kind of control of all the businesses together. Is there a Lucky in media? Luciano that's telling everyone what words to say and what words not to say?

If yes, who, if no, why are they all using the same exact script? Well, I don't, I like the mob, you know, comparison because there are five or six families or entities that are controlling the mainstream media. Thankfully now we have alternative media. We have podcasts, we have shows where we can get information that's more balanced for sure. But this is a situation where that's a conglomerate

that owns all those stations. That's why you might see one that CBS, one that's NBC. And I believe it was Sinclair. And the irony of this, and I don't want to stick up for this at all because they're all saying the exact same thing. But I believe Sinclair was a little more balanced. And they were trying to say, look, we're coming in. We own these stations.

Everyone's gone completely left. And we want our viewers to know we're going to be balanced. We're not going to push an agenda. But in their effort to put this statement out that somebody at the top wrote, they looked like fools because everyone said the exact same thing in Unison and that clip was made. But the real truth about that clip is that

this was an attempt by, I believe it was Sinclair, to tell their audience, look, we're going to try not to put our opinion in. Unfortunately, when they put it together like that, it just showed that there's one huge conglomerate that owns so many stations. I don't remember how many they own. We'd have to count the boxes there. But this is the problem.

When I started in media in the early 90s, there would be in any given town, there would be five stations or three stations, and there would be a family that owned one station, maybe a company owned another one. And then during the 90s, they started getting bought up. So you might buy five stations in the Midwest, and then you buy another 10 more and you cover the Northwest. And pretty soon, you own, as a media owner, you own 30 stations across the country. And that could be ABC, CBS, NBC NBC because you're kind of hosting their show. And that's when things get really repetitive because even today I get my news clippings

every day and I'll see a story about me. And then I watch it on another station halfway across the state or across the country. And it's exact same script. Different anchors are reading it because it's one conglomerate who owns all those stations. And that one script is coming from the top conglomerate to say these are the words we're using. And it goes on the teleprompter, you just read it. Right.

But now this is the difference. We know we, when I worked for Fox, we would get those same things. The clips would come down from wherever across the country. Other stations were doing stories. They would come to us. The script is already written. But you can rewrite scripts. If you have a good work ethic and you don't like what they say,

you can rewrite them so that it is different. I didn't want to just be repeating the same words as somebody across the country. You want to look at that script and make sure it's written properly. Not all anchors do that. So you worked at a Fox affiliate. When you were first getting started,

you talk about a Fox affiliate, you worked at it. Fox for the longest time has been known as, you know, Robert Murdock, he just stepped away, he gave it to his son, and, you know, he was in the space for the 60 years. They had Roger L's, they produced a lot of players over the years, or Riley, making Kelly, Sean Hannity, Clumbback, Tucker Croson, they've had a lot of stars at Fox.

And they were known as the enemy to the left. They were known as the enemy to the left. They were known as the enemy, Fox is against American values, while we know maybe at many places Fox has the conservative values that America has, but the left would attack it all the time. And then you were on Pierce Morgan, the interview that you did a couple months ago, could have been even less than that. And you said, Fox News is now protecting the globalist agenda, right?

They're now a globalist media outlet. When did you see as somebody that's been in the space, them making that transition of just being some organization that we could go to for conservative eyeballs to all of us on becoming a support of the globalist agenda? Well, that's my opinion. First of all, I think that there are a company and they have the right to run their company

however they want. They used to be considered the conservative network. And now I see them as they're pushing away from America first, Trump, anybody but Trump. That's my opinion. It looks like they've gone toward the globalist agenda. This is the problem in America. We've got Marxist on the left, and we've got globalists somewhere, and that mix as well, the Paul Ryan's,

the world, I mean, Paul Ryan is a pretty top player over there. Karl Rove is a top player over there. These are the kind of Neocon guys who are into a globalist agenda right now. And so that's my opinion. That's kind of where they've gone. They're moving away from their conservative values,

and I think they're moving more toward being globalist conservatives if you can put it that way. When you say over there, you talk about the world economic form, what do you mean? It's a fox. Of a at fox, yeah. So before we get into, I wanna know because I'm a bit of a...

But they've made a change. They've definitely made a change. I mean, how often do you see the Trump kids on? Hardly ever, if ever. When do you think that happened? I think that they are anybody but Trump. I think Paul Ryan hates Trump. That's my opinion.

And he doesn't want Trump. That's why they had they put all their money behind Dessantis and now they're realizing that's not working. And Paul has that kind of way that fox today. Yes. Really? And Carl, who has more weight? Paul or Carl?

I think, I think Paul Ryan has a lot of weight over there. I don't know what his position is if he's chairman of the board or what it is, but he's got a lot of power. It's the same guy that we've got. They got rid of Tucker Carlson. That I was kind of weird. Because he was actually, you know, my thinking is going into this election, they know how important this election is. Think about what the world did to try to bring Trump down. They did a lot. I mean, the COVID, a lot of the COVID agenda was meant to, in my opinion, disrupt an election, force mail-in ballots, because they can't beat Trump based on policy. They knew that, oh my gosh, this guy's going to be even more popular

than he was in 2016. He won the most votes of any incumbent president in history. That's why they had to go all out on Joe Biden, basement Biden, and try to convince everybody that he won the most votes in history, which is absolutely absurd. And the fact that we, that people were checked their intelligence and logic and believe that is even crazier. I mean, Joe Biden, he's going to go down as a greatest motivational speaker of all time to give that kind of people that would jump. But before we talk about his motivational speaking Biden, he's going to go down as a greatest motivational speaker of all time.

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or text PPD to 655-322. Once again, the link will be below. So audience, I opened it up and I asked the question about three different types of audience. And there's an audience that says, Kerry's going around talking about the fact that she won and it's not fair what they did. Prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it.

There's this whole community that's saying prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it and say, no, she lost. There's an entire different community that thinks you absolutely won and there was election fraud. And then there are, again, the people in the middle, the independent, the libertarian, the ones that actually want to say, I'm open to being yes or no, but give me some proof. So recently this just came out, this was last week, September 21st. This is from Kerry Lake's third trial to begin after unsuccessful lawsuit. Challenger and her loss in 2022 and 2022, Arizona Governor Race. And it continues to talk about how,

what was the page three here? What pages that are on Rob? Is it five or six? Oh, there it is. Carefully, Republican on the Contest and the Law is in 2020, there's a governor race as head of two-third trial unrelated to a defeat, seeking to review all early ballot envelopes

with voter signatures in Maricopa County. They request initially denied by officials. There was a bunch of videos saying, this is not fair, this is not safe, it's, you know, risk for people's information to be uttered and how are you supposed to know if we can't see the signatures, right? Lake previous legal challenges included claims

that defective printers produced ballots that were too light or too small and alleged misconduct in the signature verification process. However, she felt to present sufficient evidence in both trials with judges, concluding she didn't back her claims. Lakes' latest lawsuit, a public record case, faces opposition from counties officials who argued that disclosing early ballot envelopes wouldn't promote the best interest of the state and could invite voter fraud and identity theft.

Lakes two-day trial will be held Thursday and Monday. So, where is it at today? Because a lot of people were following it very closely. And the thing for me that was extremely suspicious is when your opponent didn't even want to have a debate. I don't under, I mean, if you're that confident in your argument, have a debate with Kerry, there's nothing wrong with that. But that never happened.

So where is it so far right now with the progress you're making with this 2022 Arizona government? Well much like you said Biden was a motivational speaker. That's kind of what my opponent is like. If you think us and us are motivational, you know, she can't get through a sentence without about 10 That kind of stuff and we saw that whenever she did speak on the campaign trail, which wasn't very often. And she was secretary of state, so she had a big say and had the elections were run in the state. We asked her to recuse herself from that and she refused. There's so many unethical people in our government. But she knew that she would be destroyed in a debate because she did not have policies. I had the strongest border policy the country has ever seen. And

now we're starting to see some of these governors who are spineless and won't do anything. Now they're starting to go, okay, maybe we do have an invasion at the border. You know, it was two years ago that I put this plan out. Governors don't have to rely on the federal government to protect their citizens and call it what it is. An invasion goes straight to the US Constitution, Article One, Section 10, clause three, and protect your citizens, protect your state when your state's being invaded. And frankly, protect the country

because if these border state governor started doing something rather than being part of the problem, we wouldn't have New York City overrun with people here illegally. We wouldn't have fentanyl overrun with people here illegally. We wouldn't have Fentanyl pouring into our country killing people. So, you know, that that was her problem. She had no policy She couldn't speak. She's just a puppet. She's not intelligent and they just wanted to get her in office So that they could control Arizona. The cartels are fully in control of Arizona right now. The Secretary of State Adrian Fantes is a cartel lawyer former cartel lawyer and we have an AG

who took that position as well. And I know there might be people out there who don't believe in election fraud, but we lived in Arizona. And the majority of people in Arizona believe it because they experienced it firsthand. They saw what happened. They showed up on election day,

and at 6 a.m., when they got in line, so excited to vote, they saw what happened. They showed up on election day, and at 6am when they got in line so excited to vote, they don't trust the mail in ballots because they saw what happened in 2020 with Trump. So the majority people showed up to vote, and right away they were told by the poll workers, oh, our equipment doesn't work. In 60% of the polling locations, and how ironic that it was the Republican polling locations where the equipment didn't work. So we did fight it. Afterwards, we said something went wrong here.

We know what happened. Lines were four, five, even six hours long on election day. So one line went almost a mile long to vote. And people were so mad when they realized it's happening again. Hold this up Rob. Because there's images out there a bit. Please continue. It's happening again. I mean up Rob because there's images out there a bit. Please continue. It's happening again.

I mean, there were people, we have video of people. We took video right away. We said, we've got to go document these stories. Adults, veterans, people who were tough guys who were in tears at what happened. And they stole this election. I was pulling 10, 11, and 12 points up, the internal polling. That's the good stuff, the relacurate stuff. Katie Hobbs did not win in everyone in Arizona.

Frank Lever won across the country knows it. And when they say, prove it, I am proving it. Why are the judges not ruling against us? I believe we have massive corruption in our judiciary. If you saw the case wrap up yesterday, where we're trying to get our hands on public records, which are these affidavit envelopes, the way that judge behaved yesterday. It needs to be put, somebody out there, if they've got time, I'm a little busy right now,

need to take that judge and every remark he made in our two-day trial and loop it together because I've never seen a judge behave that way. It was so dead obvious where he was. It was as if he was co-council for the defense. They don't want us to get our hands on these affidavit ballots, the male and ballots when you send in, because they know if we do see those, that there aren't going to be signatures, there's going to be chicken scratches. There are 300,000 ballots that were injected into the system, and this is a whistleblower who told us this. 300,000 ballots injected into the system, and this is a whistleblower who told us this,

300,000 ballots injected into the system with no chain of custody. Every time you mail in a mail-in ballot, there is a tight chain of custody. You can tell where that ballot came from. Now, nobody knows where you voted or who you voted for, but they know where that ballot came from. 300,000 with no chain of custody in the Arizona Maricopa County 2022 elections. That wasn't enough to win, to give Katie Hobbs the win.

So they had to sabotage election day. The most agreed just thing we saw when we finally got our hands on the system log files, which is basically data, lines and lines of data that show everything that happened in the election, America, a county. And we had our analysts start looking through it was, hmm, what are these three days of testing that we're done? And we notice in the three day of testing, a lot of failures, very high failure rate, 60% failure rate

of the machines, 59%. So we dug in a little further and we said, okay, this is interesting. They did their testing, they're required by law testing on the 11th of October. They brought the cameras in, dog and pony show. And we found out that when they did that official testing, those were on spare machines that they weren't even using. They then rolled the spare machines back. They don't use them in three to over a three day span. The next week, they perform testing illegally, no observers, no Democrat, no Republican, no media. They crack open these seal on these machines. They pull out the memory card, put a new memory card in,

and then they start testing it over three-day period, and they get 59% failure rate, 59% failure rate. It looks like a dry run. They wanted these machines to fail, then they took those machines and they rolled them out on election day. And these people who tell me not to fight this, this is ridiculous.

We can't have our country run with elections like this. We can't, if we don't have fair elections, we don't have a country. And our elections are theater to make us think we have. Let me ask this. So first of all, Tom, question for you and anybody here, in the history of elections, governor, anything that's governor, senate, congress, president, any of those levels, has there ever been fraud where the person who won a year, two years, three years later, it came back and showed that this person cheated and won, And then what happened to that person?

We had that happen in Arizona before. A hundred years ago in Arizona, I think it was a 1916. There was a contested governor's race. And the governor sat, the one governor sat in office for a year and the courts finally ruled that that was not the legitimate governor. And they put the other guy in. This happened in Arizona. You got it there. Is that the precedent for why you, you keep pushing this?

Meaning, well, I keep pushing. It's happened in Arizona before, so there's precedent. So this is sort of a motivating factor to fighting. That's one of the cases that we cited in our original court case. But I'm, I'm fighting this because I want the people to know that our elections are not reliable. They're not fair. They're not perfect elections like the official. You know, I'm asking a question. Here's why I'm asking a question. Has there ever been

any outside of that in the recent years in any state? Actually, in smaller and smaller elections there have been. And I think there's a county in New York where they deemed that the county just was not run. The elections weren't run on the up and up, or they had to. Oh, boy. Yeah, you know why I'm asking this question? The reason why I'm asking is, were you gonna say something Tom or no?

Yeah, I think you go back to Kennedy Nixon and the investigators that were used by the Republican Party, this is West Virginia, and they went in and they absolutely had him dead to write some West Virginia, but it was Nixon who said, for the good of the country, we shouldn't contest this, because they knew, but they didn't have, like, a stack of facts that Illinois was carried, right? They knew what happened to Illinois.

Yeah, absolutely. And then, but West Virginia, you look at that close up, that election was as close as Gore W. Bush, that election. But do you know why I'm asking this question? I'm asking this question for a couple of different reasons. One is, would we want and audit to find out exactly if there was any fraud?

And if yes, okay, if they have a case in one state that happens, then another state wants to do it as well. And another state wants to do it as well. And all those legal fees that you get to spend in and maybe they don't want to do it because they want people to trust in the system. So they're like, look, whether they cheated or not, it's down guys, just move on.

We don't want the American people to lose trust in the voting system. So let's just say that's, in my mind, I'm just kind of processing it to see, why are they so worried about this? But okay, fine. Let's say that's one of the reasons I'm just kind of processing it to see why are they so worried about this. But okay, fine. Let's say that's one of the reasons. Number two, let's look at solutions.

So if you are in there, whether it's White House has influence to be able to fix the elections so people can trust in it more or state-wise, how would you improve the system of electing? Well, it really isn't the federal government's job to improve our elections. It's state by state and the state legislature and the Constitution is the one that controls the elections. And we need to change laws somewhere along the way. When I started voting, I'm dating myself here, but back in 1988, when I started voting, we had election day.

And our Constitution in Arizona calls for election day. And somehow it's become election month, 27, 28 days of voting. And then they count for up to two weeks until they get the result they want. The longer you drag out the voting process, the more there's areas to throw fraud in. And they've complicated. It used to be a paper ballot. You showed up in a small precinct where there were 500, 700 people on the voter roll. And it was really easy to determine if somebody is like, wait a minute, you're not on the voter roll. And it was really easy to determine if somebody is like, wait a minute, you're not on the voter roll, you need to go to your precinct and vote.

It's easier to control, make sure that there's not fraud slipping in. But along the way, they realize that, I believe they realize that they can't win these elections because they have terrible policies that are not for the American people. And they've added layers of complication. And for somebody, so I think paper voting one day and you count right there at the precinct, that way the count comes from, if you're in precinct 27, it comes from that precinct.

At the end of the night it's counted. You send the results to central, they tabulate all of them, they add up all the different precincts and we have the winner that night. This is how elections have been run. How did it, how did it, I wouldn't be okay with one. Why did it get complicated? No, I wouldn't be okay with 27, 28 days. I wouldn't be okay with it.

This is what we have right now. But how do we have, how do we get here though? Was that COVID, was that because of COVID that they were like, listen, people have to. How have the American people been okay with it taking this long? Like I can see Democrats being like, well you guys just bitch a lot and you guys complain a lot of Republicans because as long as Democrats went,

they don't want to find like it's working. Right. You know what I'm saying? So there's not a problem for Democrats, right? Right. Okay. Then I can see Republicans being like, well, you know, he's my, it's not the guy I wanted anyway, so I don't give a shit. You know, so there's some that are rhinos

and there's some that are establishment of y'all. So it's okay, yeah, he lost in your face, you know, and great, then there's the other community that's gonna be like the independent saying, yeah, I don't know, I don't know if I'm comfortable with this. I don't trust this. I wanna know whoever won to win. So my vote matters.

So people don't lose credibility and, you know, well, my vote doesn't matter. Why should I vote anyway? So they're going to manipulate it anyway. So I want to know the people that actually want to know for the vote to count, they're not okay with the taking 27, 28 days. How did it get to that long of a time?

I believe it really has been because their policies are so bad. This is an attempt to make sure we have people in that are controllable. I mean, 27 days of voting, early voting, and you look at what happened when any state goes full mail on, mail in ballots. Mail in ballots really are not secure ballots. Would you put $500 in an envelope and put it in the mail right now? Post office, no way.

No. But you're putting your vote. And now they're saying there's absolutely no fun. If it's certified, but it's not unfortunately. And so any state that has got full mail in immediately starts to turn full left. Look at Washington state or again, I mean, California is going that way. When you when you start seeing a loosening of the voter laws and procedures, immediately the state starts to go toward the left. I have a motion. When you see laws that are adhered to, that's when you see sanity and you know that you've

got one vote, you have one vote, I have one vote. And why should America care about this? I've been all over the country. You know, if you're in a state, Oklahoma, for example, I've been at Oklahoma, a pretty red state. I believe all 50 states need to improve their elections to make sure that they are reformed and secure. So we know that one legal vote per legal voter.

But why should Oklahoma care about Arizona's election fraud? Because even if your state's running a pretty decent election, if Maricopa County, one County in Arizona runs their elections with corruption and fraud, your vote doesn't count. Your vote for President Trump, because we know, I believe the country knows President Trump won. Some people can't admit it, but your vote doesn't count if they're watering it down with a bunch of phony fake ballots in three or four counties across the country.

And look where the world is going because we had that fraudulent election in 22. We have Joe Biden in the White House. We're on the verge of World War III. It's like wake up people. We are on the verge of a war. Our economy is in the toilet. Our borders wide open.

Our country's being invaded. How many more alarm bells do we have to go off before people go? We've got to deal with our election. You have to look at the history of the precinct system in American voting. Precincts used to be fire stations, schools, civic centers, and they were small. Precincts were small for two reasons. Well, a lot of small precincts allowed people back before we had two-income housing, everybody driving to work, moms working.

And what happened was you could walk to your precinct, you walked to your fire station, your school, everything you could vote. Small precinct gives you high control, and you make a phone call. Okay, here we are, here's the result, 62, 31, 14, and the precincts dialed in. What happened was on the mail and ballots,

it started with, there's a variety of things, and then they jumped on that, where because there's cracks where they could leverage it. It started with, there's a variety of things and then they jumped on that where because there's cracks where they could leverage it. It started with, wait a minute, shouldn't our overseas military get to vote in their elections? Well, yeah, national elections, sure they should. Okay, well, let's get them an absentee ballot. And that's where it was. It wasn't male in ballots. It was absentee ballots. Well, yeah, let's do that. Well, then people started retiring and they adapted it. They started adapting, you know, the voting rules. Well, you know, maybe their shut-ins are people that can't make it to their precinct. Let's give

them an absentee ballot. And then that was the crack where they said, hey, you know what? You know what we could do? Vinnie. What if we just go to the old folks home and just harvest the ballots? Which they did. It was constant. That's exactly exactly what they did. Exactly. Exactly what they did. And the whole world was these people who can't even, they didn't even know their loved

ones name and they voted. And they can't even feed themselves. They can't do anything. Correct. And let's go look at one of the first motions in Gore versus Bush in front of the US Supreme Court. The Democrats wanted to disqualify the Military vote that was absentee that was coming back into Florida because it was servicemen in Jacksonville Marine Corps

Air Station is down in Miami. They wanted to they tried to disqualify those those votes And so you can see what happened in Pat We went down the slippery slope where hey, you know, just mail-in voting. Let's make it easy for everyone. But there used to be reasons to let the military, let shut-ins have an absentee ballot. Absentee ballot became mail-in ballot, mail-in ballot became just the Wild Wild West where Vinnie and I could harvest an old folks home and then have them vote anyway we want. Or because now they're bringing them in for old folks home, Vinnie and I could just walk in at midnight with 10,000 ballots and say, hey, more mail

ends and they wouldn't even question us. In the old days, they would say, wait, are these absentees from military? What way? Where's this all coming from? Now you see the cracks formed and there is the front. And really quickly, Tom just said the precinct voting was done at the fire station or the mainly churches and schools. I mean, I could walk a block or two to mine before.

What closed during COVID, churches and schools? I don't think that's coincidental. And what else happened? Mass, mail-in voting. This is, it's really obvious when you start, when you start digging into what's really, whatever was the mass to mine behind the strategy, I want that personal part. And care because I'm a pattern guy.

I always, I look at patterns other people call me different names, but I'm a pattern guy. So like in your case, your opponent doesn't want to debate as if they already know everything set up. It's really weird, right? The machines don't work. People are showing up. They have to go to different places, pretty weird. The person that you're going up against

oversees the entire election. That's really, really odd for me. Then that umbrella that Pat was talking about all the media makes you seem like you're this crazy election denying cook. The judges seem like they're in their back pockets. Then we go back to the Trump situation. I see, and it's already starting to happen with it with him because Hillary

already is in front of the news saying what, Pooin is going to cheat. The she's saying the 24 elections going to be rigged. I'm like, wait a minute, indict her. She did she. Yeah. You play the clip. Yeah. And then and then carried. So and then already Fauci, Biden, Bill Gates, they're all warning us about pandemic too, which is a perfect stay at home, stay in the basement. You know what I mean? Biden, so are Biden to vote. Do you think, if you had to guess, do you think that they're gearing up for something

for 2024? Because it already seems, I mean, Trump is kind of passing Biden by like 10%. If you had to guess, Gary, do you think something, because I mean, if you think about it, a virus coming out of a country that we own the lab, comes out, keeps everybody at home. You have to mail in your ballots. Joe Biden doesn't go in front of a camera.

If he does, it's in front of like 20 people. Do you think that something wild is gonna happen to keep everybody at home that have that same process happen? I don't know. I'm almost thinking that they know they can't cheat something wild is going to happen to keep everybody at home to have that same process happen. I don't know. I'm almost thinking that they know they can't cheat at the level they would have to to defeat Trump.

And that's why they're trying to keep them off the ballot in numerous states. They've got sadly Republicans, people with an R behind their name trying to keep a man of the people that the people want off the ballot now because that tells me, okay, why not just put them on the ballot if they could cheat to that level. The people by the time the election rolls around are going to be so fed up with the way things are going that I even believe we're moving towards seeing Democrats, disaffected Democrats who are waking up that the fact that their party is no longer the Democrat party who are going to vote for America first policies.

The media will say they're extreme policies. He's an extremist, you know, these mega people are extremists. Make America great again is extreme. Wanting a secure border, wanting to make sure your kids and your kids and my kids don't get their hands on fentanyl. I don't know, I don't think that's extreme. I think the opposite is if you're okay with the border being open, that is extreme. If you are okay with the United Auto Workers not having an industry to show up to work for

because they're going to ship our auto industry over to China to make EV vehicles and force you into an EV vehicle against your will because they're not going to have this green new deal as such a ridiculous thing. That's extreme. If you think it's okay to talk to our kids when they're six years old or at a doctor's appointment, we just found out in Arizona at the nursing school, U of A, they're teaching nurses at age three in the wellness check at age three for a little one

to ask them about their gender identity. This stuff is extreme. And I'm not going to be a shane. A four-year-old. A three-year-old. Ask if they feel like they're really a girl or. I wanna be a cowboy. That's a fact.

That's a fact. I wanna ask you. I mean, my son wanted to be a dinosaur. What do we do? I still wanna be a dinosaur. I actually have a very direct question to you. I actually believe that you're actually a very strong, attractive candidate.

I think you have a winning message. Everything you've talked about, especially regarding immigration, the border, the wall, you're in Arizona for the past 30 years. And the homeless plan. Not many people had a plan to deal with the homeless. You have a lot of good things that you say, especially everything you talked about with the woke agenda,

the LGBT, the trends. We've talked about that on woke agenda, the LGBT, the trends, we've talked about that on the podcast, Infinity Times. You have a platform, I believe that, you also have what Candace Owens called, the IT Factor, your media savvy, your attractive, your hair looks great today, congrats,

even with the headphones on. You have a lot going for you. Why not focus on that more, meaning if you Google carry link, and if you look at any YouTube clip, you are the almost face of election denialism. So my question to you is this, you have so much going for you, even like SNL does parodies of you. My question is this, we saw what happened in 2020 or 2022 during the midterms. Any Trump back candidate that doubled down on election denialism did not win. You came dangerously close to beating hubs.

Why do you think that election denialism is a winning message? Because at the end of the day, if you don't win, you don't win. Like Trump's not reversing the three years ago election. It doesn't seem likely you're going to reverse this election from 2022. You have so much going for you, so many positive qualities. Why not just say, listen, I take my ball, I lost, I'm going to crush it the next time and win rather than double down on the loss. Why not? Well, for starters, I never got into politics to have a big political career. I mean, when

people say you're going to hurt your political career, I frankly don't give a damn about a political career. And we need to get people who are in this to have a political career out of politics. And it was a fun, it was not just an unfair election, it was a fraudulent election. I don't walk away from a noble fight. And if I were to walk away from what they did to the people who stood in line and couldn't vote, almost quarter of a million votes were rejected on election day, almost a quarter of a million votes, and 75% minimum were voting for me. So I look at those people, they've reached out to me and said, please fight this, don't walk away from this fight.

If I don't stand up and fight for them, they don't have a shot at fighting this fraud in the elections. I'm a mom first and foremost. If you have a problem in your household, and I think I'm gonna have your dads, okay? If you have a problem in your household, you don't, you know, if you have a problem in your marriage, if you find out your teenagers are getting into something dangerous and you need to deal with it, you don't put your head in the sand and go, well,

let's not look back. Let's look forward. Things will get better. Things aren't going to get better if we don't have fair elections. Like, Gary, with all due respect, that's not what wins elections, what wins elections, whether it's Trump in 2016, whether it was Obama in 2008, whether it was George W. Bush in 2000, is let's do something great to make America great again. Let's look to the future. The future looks bright as we say, sell me the dreams, sell me the dream. And I believe I did. If you sell, hey, three years ago, this happened. Last year, this happened. It's been proven that it doesn't necessarily work. So if you, I'm adding a noble fight

into a platform decision. I'm not, I'm saying that she, she, she couldn't win. This is a platform decision. This is a noble, excuse me, Mrs. Lake. Let me ask Carrie her question. Whoa. So I'm asking, at what point,

the man who never interrupts, the man who has got, I don't, I agree with, I agree with, I agree with, I agree with question, letter with spot. I agree with parts of what you said. And I look back at our campaign, which is when I got into politics, I don't know how I ended up in the middle of the political world, but I did.

And we had all that. I, my number one platform issue was not elections. It was, we've got to secure this border. Totally agree. And these governors are doing anything. And they're failing at their duty to the people I had a great policy on education and I'm again dating myself here But we used to have trade school training in our high schools got rid of all that now. We're doing

DEI and CRT and Trans agenda we need to get our kids especially our boys ready for real jobs out there I had a great policy on that. Great policy to deal with our chronic street homelessness. And we, I can go down reshoring, manufacturing to Arizona with our proximity to Mexico. It's a great, great opportunity to grow and expand the economy in Arizona. Excellent policies. And they knew that, oh man, this woman means business.

She's going to shut down our illegal activity, our trans, pardon me, trafficking of drugs and children and human beings. And they had to stop me. And so we have to deal with what's happening in our elections and reform our elections. And this is, you're reading Google and all of these articles are written by a slanted media that has completely gone off the hinge propagandist. And they're writing all these and saying she's an election denier and nobody is for it. I'm out there with the people every day. I have been all over this country everywhere I go, even in Portland, Oregon. I think I got stopped more in Portland, Oregon, People saying, thank you for what you are doing. You, you've got to fight for

elections. We don't have a state anymore. They're ruining our state and we can't vote our way out of it anymore. We've gone full on mail and ballots. They're destroying Portland. They're destroying the entire state now. And we are stuck and we're held hostage by rotten elections. And I want to say something here.. And I want to say something here. OK, I want to say something here. I fully, you know, I asked this question of Rudy Giuliani, so you know where I stand.

We had this live debate and I'm asking Rudy, Rudy, you keep talking about fraud, fraud, fraud. It's not an attractive thing to do. Here's what's going to end up taking place. You know, people want to know what is the plan. Great. But I actually have a question. You ever watched a movie Flash of Genius? No.

It's the story of Robert Kerns. Okay, so who Robert Kerns is? This is the guy that invents the intermittent wiper because he had a hard time watching when it was raining, so the wiper wasn't fully clear. I love that guy. I didn't know that was him. That's him. So, the intermittent wipers are one of the great inventions. But I gotta tell you, he may end up being your biggest source of inspiration. I think you gotta watch the movie. Let me explain why. So this guy, Robert Kerns,

invents it, goes and takes it to different car companies. Okay, he takes it to 40. He takes it to, you know, this is the movie. He takes it to 40. He takes it to Chrysler. What these guys do is he gets a patent in 1964. He patents this in 1964. Ford sees it, says, this is an insane idea,

but guess what Ford does? Ford takes it and says, you never came up with this. We did it ourselves. And they show they said there's only four pieces to this thing. This is not a big deal. We did it ourselves. And in court, there's a scene where he's telling the judge, he says, Judge, have you ever used the word book? Yes. You ever used the word philosophy? Yes.

You ever used the word I have? Yes. How come you've never written and ever won the greatest books of all time that Charles Dickens did? He has access to the same words you did, but he knew what words to pick to put together to write the greatest, won the greatest books one of the greatest books of all time. He says, it's not about the pieces being this simple. I found the right four pieces to use to put this together. Watch what ends up happening.

This is my, he ends up fighting Ford and Chrysler. Goes to court, loses his marriage, loses his kids, loses everything he has. Eventually Ford offers them $30 million. And by the way, this is not $30 million of today's money. This is $30 million of $60, $70, it's real money. You know what he says? He says, no, he says they gave him $30 million to say he was at fault. Ford wanted to give him $30 million to go publicly and say, I was at fault. He says, I'm not doing that. You ruined my life. I invented this product. I'm going fully on with this thing here.

He ends up winning instead of getting $30 million. He only gets $10.1 million, but Ford had to publicly say they were at fault. Oh. Christler later on had to end up paying him around $18.7 million, and his story became public. I think for somebody to prove there is fraud,

they're going to destroy your life. Okay. And I think someone somebody to prove there is fraud, they're going to destroy your life. Okay. And I think someone has to do it because I think it is inspirational for someone to take this kind of a risk for the longest time. This guy's own family didn't believe him. There's things of his kids questioning that, Dad, why are you doing this? We're losing everything because you have to use money for legal fees and all this other stuff. You're crazy, you're nuts, you're this. I believe that I don't have all the intel. I don't know what happened there.

I'm extremely suspicious, extremely suspicious. You need 27, 28 days for what? My kids can count up to 100,000. You can't count it in one day or two hours or three hours with all the technology that they have. The person doesn't show up to debate. So all I'm saying is, I think if this is truly something you want to go fight for, I hope you go all the way through.

Because I think there is a reason why no one's ever done this because they're going to do whatever they can to destroy your life. They're going to do whatever they can to destroy your life. But whoever gonna do whatever they can to destroy your life, but whoever ends up proving it, the rest of the American people will be protected for decades and centuries to come, because they're always gonna go back and say,

the carry-laid case, the carry-laid case, the carry-laid case, just like the sky here, you know, Robert Kerns, who did what he did. So, by the way, I don't think it's gonna be a fun fight. I think it's gonna take yours. I don't think it's gonna be a fun fight. I think it's gonna take yours. I don't think it's gonna be solved in three to six months. I think it's gonna take a different president to come in

to wanna have to investigate this, to wanna encourage that we wanna change the ways we're handling elections, to appoint different people that can investigate that are private, not just public, but all I'm saying here is, so you're making a very good point. Yeah, it's probably not an attractive thing

to campaign on if you want to win public office. So here's a question, so you're making a very good point. Yeah, it's probably not an attractive thing to campaign on. If you want to win public office, so here's a question for you. Here's a question for you. What's more important to you, um, become a senator or become a governor. And none of this stuff has ever proven or you never become a senator. You never become a governor. You never become a VP, but in the next three, five, 10 years, we finally find out that there was fraud here.

And for anybody else in the future that runs as protected, which of those two is more important to you? I think you know the answer. I wanna hear it. The latter. And I'm never gonna stop fighting. I'm never gonna stop fighting for honest elections, reform in our elections.

We've walked away from far too many fights, and that's how we've gotten into this position. And sadly, the Republicans have walked away. We need, that's why President Trump is so loved. It's like, finally, we have a fighter. Is he perfect in every single way? No, and I don't think any of us here or anybody listening is, but he fights for us every day. And I will fight, as I've said, we surrender so many hills. We're on our final hill. I'm going to the top of it. And if they want to stop me, they're going to have to go up to the top and take me down. I don't care about money.

I don't care about even getting credit for saving our elections and reforming them. I really, if I go to my grave and I know that my children and at that point, hopefully great grandchildren, maybe great, great grandchildren, have a republic to live in with a constitution that is adhered to with a bill of rights that actually exists. I will be the happiest human being, even if I'm penniless, even if you're penniless. What good is that? Are you seeing what they're doing to Rudy Giuliani? Oh, I was just with Roger Stone last night. Do you know who they're coming after everything I have right now? They're suing me for defamation for having the courage

to speak out about our elections. You're not gonna stop. And they won't stop, but that's okay. What good is that money if we lose our country? So here's our choices. What you're saying right now is, you could just be quiet and keep the money you have and all of that.

But then we're gonna be a year out from now in a, I believe, a communist globalist country. We're not going to, we're losing our American freedoms. We're losing them every day if you haven't noticed. And what good is that money living in that if we don't have our freedom? And so we need a few people who are freedom fighters right now. And, you know, as long as I have enough to eat, I'm okay with that. I don't eat that much.

I don't, I don't think the dirtiness has started with you yet. I think they're banking on you stepping away from this, and I think they're banking on you quitting on this and moving on to Senate and allowing Senate to be the next distraction, because when they look at people like you, and what I mean by people like you is the fighters, you're very annoying, very annoying in the way when you fight somebody that's- You lie in the ointment. You're pesky.

A true believer is a very annoying opponent, very annoying opponent. You like to face people that can be bought with women, with girls, with a recognition of folks. They tried to bribe me, they tried to bribe me. Came to my door and tried to bribe me. Who did? I'm not gonna name names, because people say, why won't you name the person?

And I said, because I don't want to shoot the messenger. Came to my door called me one day, and this was back when I was finishing up my book, which is called Unafraid. I highly recommend it. And said, can I come over? I got to talk to you about something, but it has to be in person.

I can't do it on the phone. And I thought, OK, that's a red flag. What's going on here? Was this a person you knew already? It's a political figure. That's, that's known. I think in some circles, yeah. And showed up and said, look, look, we want you,

this is probably March. So our case was, I think in the pellet court, we were, you know, continuing really. March of 23. March of this year. I've not even been February. I, I, I, I, I. So meaning this is several months after the 2022 election.

Yeah. I was still fighting. I was just wrapping. I think it was March because I was just finishing up the book and put, you know, doing some final edits on it. And I was trying to pack to get out the door to go to CPAC. I was going to be delivering a speech at CPAC. And person comes over, sits down and says, um, got a great offer for you, coming from some

pretty powerful people back east, great position, great title, a huge salary, position on a board, and all they want is for you to not run again in this next election, just one election cycle, 24, not beyond the ballot. And I was just, I mean, shocked that this was, I'm thinking this is the kind of stuff you have happens in movies, right? Yeah. And I said, well, why don't you go back and tell them that I'm not motivated by a job.

I'm not motivated by a powerful position. I'm not motivated by money. I walked away from that. I truly walked away from my dream job because we're losing our country. So the conversation went on, tried to convince me, just once it won out, you can always get back in. I don't think they want me on the ballot in any position in Trump because of my movement

comes out to vote in Trump's movement. All of the rhinos and globalists or whoever they're going to put in are going to go down. And so I should the guy out because I said, I've got a pack. I'm finishing up my book. As he's leaving, he turned around, he said, what would it take? How much would it take for you to just not run in 24? And to be honest, I was so consumed with writing the book at the time. I was finishing up, you know, travel plans to get out of the house.

I wasn't really. I mean, people I talked about me running for Senate. And I've given it a lot of thought. And if they're willing to steal an election from the good people of my state to bring me down and get me out, I'm not giving them that. That gives them the victory. And I'm glad that Trump is willing to stay in as well because they took it from him. And if he were to say, look, it's too hard. They might ruin me. They might take all of the money I have and leave me in ruins. If he would have done that, then they wouldn't. Is this a person that's part of the establishment right? I really don't want to give too many.

Here's what I'm asking the question. Okay. But you have proof. If they came to destroy your life, you have proof of this situation taking place. Yes, but the person who delivered the message was not the person behind the offer. But the person told you who was behind the person of the offer. Just said it was powerful people back east. And east as a New York or D.C. I'm thinking D.C.

That's what I'm talking about. So where I'm going with where you're right right now, so you're saying you would rather fight for your beliefs on what happened and give up every other possibility of what you could do to go prove that you were right. Okay, so I think they're thinking you're gonna give up quickly.

I think they think you're gonna be... I don't think they think that now. And by the way, there will be more lawsuits to come. We're working on other things. In their eyes, in their eyes, there's been a hundred of you. Trust me, they're arrogant people who they think there's been many of you and they know how to distract people like you with other distractions and in all of a sudden they're going to be like, yeah, or fire cut.

Because you know, emotions are always high when you first go through a breakup, right? So you cry, you're like, oh my God, this is sad. Who is he dating? Who is she dating? Let me check her Instagram, his Instagram. Two months later, like, oh man, I wish her nothing but the best. And we kind of move on, right?

Only a few people are like, oh hell no, he did me wrong. She did me wrong. Okay, so in a situation like this, for the most part, most people move on, right? They're banking, you're gonna move on with another run that you'll go on. That's what they're banking on, I think so. And if you choose to keep pushing

to find out and get to the bottom of this, I think what you're experiencing so far of them destroying your life is one tent of what they can do. Just this morning, you know who Giuliani got sued by? Who? A guy named Hunter Biden. He did. This just five minutes before we went to lap Hunter Biden sued Rudy Giuliani over laptop,

accuses extra employer of hacking. Biden alleges Giuliani is responsible for the total annihilation of his digital privacy claims there was no laptop. So it may be it's just suit I, Garrett Ziegler for, you know, putting all of that together and explaining what was on the lap. He also sued the IRS. I mean, he put him, I sued his dad, right? I mean, if you think about it.

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At Salesforce, we're all about asking more of AI. Questions like, where's the data going? Is it secure? Are you sure? Are you sure you're sure? Get answers you can trust from Salesforce at AskMoreVai.com. You know strategically VP you've answered, I've watched you answered 40 different times and I know how you're gonna answer it. You know, you know, my job is right now is a mama bear to protect and you know that's what I'm doing. It's not about being the VP, it's about doing my job. I may run for office all this other stuff. Okay, so VP, you're in a very important state, okay? And you also said to peers, I think he needs to choose somebody

to do the fighting for him. Like in other words, he needs a flag carrier. Mike Pence wasn't a fighter for him. And that was a first term VP, which I think Mike was a very good first term VP, minus the COVID when he did what he did. But for the most part, he brought a good state to him. It was a necessary state to him.

Mike did his part. Second term, it's about who's going to replace for the next eight years after him. He needs a true flag carrier that can fight, go, do the part, do the like work, defend them. Almost kind of like doing what Kelly and Conway did. I don't think he wins 2016 without Kelly and Conway. I think Kelly and Conway was a rock star. She was right. I think she was a rock star.

It was so hard not to like her when the media was horrible to her. Oh my God. That's when I woke up really, frankly, with Kelly and I told her, I learned a lot. She always kept calm. She always helped. She really is. She really is. And they were being so rude to her and she just came out looking.

I see the same with the two of you. That's why I'm asking. So do you think one, you would be a formidable VP candidate? Because you're also in a very important state. And you have a lot of, you know, where the dead bodies are buried in Arizona. So if something happens, you guys can also follow up on the things that you want to do to make sure it's proven what happened in Arizona. You know, one, obviously if you got the call, would you take it to, you know, who else do

you think would be a formidable VP candidate for President Trump? I know you can't speak on his behalf, but I'm just thinking if you had something. Well, there's so many things to talk about. The first I want to go back to what you just said before this, and then I would promise I'm an answer. Sure. You can run and you can do a lot of things and have lawsuits. And so I'm a multi-tasker. I'm a mom. I can handle, you know, I'll never give up on fighting for your vote, whether

you are a Democrat, independent or Republican. I, if this would have happened on the Democrat side and Trump would have won the way, won the way that Biden won, I wouldn't be okay with that either. This is about saving America. And our founding fathers, many of them were penniless at the end of their fight to bring us this great republic. And I am motivated by that spirit. Okay, so that's that. Well, let me say something to that. I mean, you can save an America. I put an event together in 09 called Save an America, Dundee Impossible. I'm dressed as George Washington. My wife is dressed as Lady Liberty. I have a 40-foot mount rush more on the stage.

And the whole idea was we're gonna save America. That was the entire campaign. So we started a Facebook page in on I'm called Save an America. And I had a radio show on KKLA, KR, a label called Save an America Back in 2009, 2010. That's the guy right there. That's the Middle Eastern George Washington right there. July 17 2009. Okay. That that is racist. Okay. That's all racist. I can't believe it. Cultural. That's not your wife. Is that your wife? My wife is in another picture.

It's very short. It's tiny. It's very, very short, but she's dedicated to the coffee. Yeah. So, so, so, so make you on that. Let's save America. But go to your other question with the VP site. All right, the VP stuff. I get asked that. I don't think President Trump's thinking about VP. Honestly, I just had a great conversation with him the other day. I always will take a call from President Trump. I think he's the greatest president in our country's history.

And I believe he will go down as one of the greatest political leaders and leaders, frankly, in human history. Yes, I said that. Why do you think he's the greatest in American history? Above George Washington, above Lincoln, above JFK, you think Trump is the number one of all time? Washington was great. Absolutely. Obviously, we're our first president, and he was a great general who helped us

even have this republic, but we're losing this country. I believe we have about a year left. And the person who saves this country pulls it back out of the flames is going to go down in my book as the greatest president. Because what good is it if we lose the country and it ends this year? It's like, okay, well Washington was fantastic.

Thank God for Lincoln. Thank God. Well Lincoln literally saved the country, not hypothetically. Yep, but we're losing it, not, you know, hypothetically. Yeah, but we're losing it now. I believe in when we lose it this time. Not as bad as the Civil War, though, Karen. I don't know.

I think we could end up going down as not having a republic. They want our constitution gone. They want we are these. I've never thought I'd saw a day where our first amendment would be in the crosshairs. And it is. We had our church shut down. We do not have freedom of speech right now. We have people think we have freedom of speech, but if you only have a little bit of freedom

of speech and some people have a little less and some people have more, that's not freedom of speech, guys. And the fact that we have journalists, I call journalists, use that term loosely, who are okay with it. I mean, they should have the journalism card pulled immediately, that they are not fully for the First Amendment, whether you like what someone's saying or you don't. And our government is working with these tech tyrants to take away certain people's right to speak.

But back to the question. Can I get my VPN so with zero interruption, please go. So would I accept that position? Is that what the question is? Would you and who else you think is a formidable candidate for VP? I really want to make sure Trump gets his second term. And I think looking even considering that right now is so off base. When we got to make sure he gets that second term. And so people who are kind of like, you know, Jones

and to have that happen or jockeying for position are so, in my opinion, it's almost insulting. Because it's like, we've got to do everything we can to get him in office. If he gets in office, and I have no place in his orbit, as long as he's in office, I'm fine with that. I'm not doing any of this. I don't get asked to speak place in his orbit. As long as he's in office, I'm fine with that. I'm not doing any of this. I don't get asked to speak out in his favor.

I don't get told to speak for him. I speak for him as a mother who's really, really concerned about my children's future. In a very selfish way, I'm concerned about my kiddos. And so I speak for him for that. If he called and asked me, I'd have to really consider it, but I'm really looking at a different position right now. And I think when you play that video,

which thank you, it's on my Twitter page right now, it insinuated that something might be coming in my world. So what's next? We have an opportunity to pick up a Senate seat right now. We have a senator right now, Kiersten Sinema, who's now in her election mode, Kiersten Sinema, who's now in her election mode, Kiersten Sinema, who's acting like she's independent, which is such an insult to the intelligence of the people of Arizona.

We've watched as for five years, she's voted in lockstep with Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer on everything. And even though they name this, the inflation reduction act, I think people are smart enough to realize that it usually means the opposite of whatever the Democrats name these. It means watch out, hold on, hang on with both hands because you're not Camilla for basic groceries and gas anymore. And so she votes in lockstep with him. She votes with Biden more often than Bernie Sanders does.

And now she's trying to reinvent herself as an independent. She shows up in DC, she dresses in up wears a purple wig on the floor of the Senate and go-go boots. And she shows up on the stage with at the W E F in Davos. And now she wants to come back and act like she is with the people of Arizona. She didn't give a damn about the border. Now she's on the border. We recognize BS when we see it. And I don't want to see her go back and represent the people. I also don't want to see the guy on the Democrat ticket who is a full on socialist slash Marxist. These are not the values of the people of Arizona. Those two have done nothing to secure our border. They voted to impeach President Trump while

they're letting the Biden-Crom family get away with murder. And so I'm very seriously considering a run. I think the video insinuated. There might be something coming up here. And we're going to take back our country and we're not going to surrender another hill. I don't want to see another Mitt Romney type in DC voting against the American people. When we get Trump in office, we got to have people there who are going to help get this agenda to save America past. So Senate, so a couple of the issues that's going on,

which is Arizona's border crisis and amount of people that are coming through on a daily basis. You talked about the cartel earlier. I do wanna address the cartel issue. Cartels are significantly profiting from the illegal border crisis. The migrants smuggling economy. Who wrote that by the significantly profiting? the illegal border crisis, the migrant smuggling economy. Who wrote that by the significantly profiting?

Washington Times, okay, so. You're making a killing on it. Yeah, at the US Mexico border, tops 20 billion, and the cartels I've made at least 2.6 billion in profits over the past 12 months, just from controlling the routes illegal immigrants use. And on top of that, last year the Department of Homeland Security estimated

that cartels are earning up to six billion, you're just from human smuggling operation. This is not like a website saying six billion year. This is from Homeland Security. So what are some strategies you're gonna have to make sure you protect that, specifically in the state of Arizona? Well, I talked about my border plan as governor,

and that I think every governor should take it. It's out there on the internet. It's called Defend Arizona, but you could easily say defend Texas, defend California. That's never going to happen with a new sum. Defend New Mexico. We need strong border governors to do right by the people of this country.

That's why people were rooting for me across the country. They said, finally, one governor's going to do something about it. So we really need the governors to step up right now until we can get some, you know, quality individuals put into Congress. And we do have something, by the way. I don't want to say everybody in DC is rotten. We're getting some great fighters in there. But I think we need to immediately get President Trump's border plan back. As a journalist, I covered Arizona for 27 years. I'd never seen that border more secure than under President Trump. He found a way, and he had to do this mind you, really with one arm tied behind his back, with his own party, people who had an arm behind their name attacking him.

They would not let him build the wall. They were fighting, you know, he had to like get very creative to get the funding for the 500 plus miles of wall he put up. And I've been to the wall. It works. Now Joe Biden has opened it up and welded it into an open position. And tens of thousands of people are pouring across every week in Arizona. And the drugs are pouring through and we actually have cartel members crossing the border

armed. And they know they own the border. and they know they own the border. The cartel's own the border, they own our state right now. So it's really easy. We just need to get Trump's policies back in at a federal level. And if Joe Biden wants to call them the Biden border plan, I don't care what he calls I'm sure Trump doesn't care. Just do it to save our country.

I'm caring. I have a really quick question. So I know of the VEK yesterday or the day before was that, Osana's Twitter Rob. He was out there campaigning. He walked into a coffee shop and then lady asked, what would you do about the board and VEK said, you know, as the commander in chief, you have the right.

You don't have to ask for permission to put our military. Right. Sir, I'm a veteran, Patrick's a veteran. We have people that are just, I'm not, there's no active crazy wars going on right now. We have soldiers that are literally just, you know, waiting around and whatever. Why not use that to protect our board instead of protecting, you know, others people's borders around the country.

Would you be able to have that as a senator to have that type of authority to put me on the board? Well, my actual boarder plan as governor was going to be to put the National Guard down there. And we have men and frankly women, but men would come up to me all the time and say, I fought for my country. If I just got the call to go protect my country right now, I would be there in 20 minutes. I would be down.

I would be heading to the border to protect my country. Men and women in this country want our border protected. We don't have a country without a border. And we're sending our sons overseas to fight wars because there's trillions of dollars in these endless wars. That's why, frankly, I believe that's really why they want two reasons, why they want to bring Trump down. He's not going to start it.

He didn't start any wars. He resisted starting wars. There's trillions of dollars in endless wars with the military industrial complex. That JFK warned us about, I believe it was Eisenhower warned us about, I mean, he's farewell speech. So there's a lot of money in that. Anybody that speaks up against them ends up gone or destroyed.

So you're right, I might end up destroyed. But the other thing is I don't want to see our sons and daughters fighting these wars overseas when our own country needs help. I believe some of the stuff you say is complete winning message. I think you have great messaging. I told you what I thought doesn't necessarily win. Here's my question to you. I think you're a great surrogate for Trump. I think you have a lot of Kellyanne Conway Moxie for sure in you. I think you have a lot of Kellyanne Conway, Moxie, for sure, in you. If you were going to be the VP, I think if you look at the polling, I look at Vegas polls,

I don't trust Quinnipiac, Pugh, none of that. I look at Vegas polls because that's where the money is. You're in the top three and a lot of the list. The Vegas poll said that I was going to win in a landslide. Well, sometimes Vegas loses. Then they have to pay. But the point is you're at the top of this list. Put on your hypothetical, you know, take off the mama bear hat

and put on the VP hat. You're gonna be in the Oval Office with President Trump. You've already said you think he's the greatest president of all time. You're in the office. You've had the Mike Pence's of the world to build bars of the world, the General Kelley's. People that have been insulated

in his circle that have disagreed with them and they are, for whatever reason, are not so much in the inner circle, if you know what I mean. Let's say there's a scenario where you totally disagree with President Trump and you don't advocate for what he's advocating, but you need to remain loyal in order to kind of keep your position there. How would you handle that nuance? Like, give me some insight to how vice president Kerry Lake would have that difficult conversation with President Trump if you actually disagree

with him on something. Well, first of all, when President Trump says he appreciates loyalty, he doesn't mean loyalty, but you never ever speak against what I want. That's not what loyalty means. Loyalty means, you know, he's done a lot for a lot of people. And I will tell you, I understand loyalty when someone stabs you in the back, you what, the people around you that you, that you can trust them, not that you trust them. You bring them in and then they turn around and walk out the door and stab you in the back. It's

really difficult to have, then, then who do you trust if everyone's doing that? So when he says he likes loyalty, doesn't mean loyalty, but you have to say everything I say is right. I don't agree with everything the president's done. I agree with very much of that. I think his policies have been exceptional. Sometimes his tone is different than what I would use, but I appreciate that. I like that he's brash. I think sometimes we need a shaking to wake us up. We needed that with Trump, just like with Reagan, we needed a calm, cool optimism and a return toward patriotism and love for country. We need it with Trump, someone to shake us out of our slumber because we got really lazy and thought our country was on cruise control and we found that it was, but it was going

off a cliff. I've disagreed with him on things before. We talk all the time. I just talked to him the other day. I talked to him two days ago. We had a long conversation and I didn't agree with everything he said and we kind of went back and forth on something and it was fun. How did you approach that?

You said, Mr. President, here's how I see things differently. Well, not that I need the actual conversation, but like the tone, the tenure, like how do you say, well, hey, I just, I am now, okay. You know what, he's a big boy. He can handle it. He wants the truth. I've never seen anybody like him,

and I've talked to people who worked in the White House with him, and when there was an issue, as a problem, he would bring a whole group of people in and say, okay, everybody want your opinion. What do you think we should do, Tom? How should we handle this? Did I get it right? Yes, Tom. Adam, what are your thoughts on this? Patrick, how do you feel? Vincent, what are your thoughts? And then he would make his decision. What the media has said about him is such a lie. It's been an eight-year slander

and smear campaign on one man. We've never seen anything like this in politics. So when I do approach people and they tell me they don't like Trump, I usually have a conversation with them and I find out they've just been believing the media stories. I actually fully believe that the media has done Trump dirty. No doubt. It's just a chicken or the egg thing. Fake news.

You being a part of the media, you have a very unique insight on this. Why do you think it'll be any different this time around if Trump is the president knowing what you know about the media? Well, I think when we get President Trump in office, the people, it's gonna be just so obvious that people are with them.

And then the last, since really COVID and the 2020 election, I will never forget being on set that night, reading the election results and a producer getting in my ear by the way and say Brett Behrer just called the election for Biden in Arizona. But this time around, the people don't, because of all of that nonsense,

the people have turned on the fake news media. And so they don't have it, they don't have the power they once had. And when they're trying to tear Trump down, this next go around, it's not gonna work. It's gonna fall on deaf ears, because it'll fall on no ears. Not deaf ears, no ears will be listening.

And I also believe the press pool at the White House will be comprised of a lot of the alternative media. I mean, maybe a value attainment will have a reporter representing what's happening at the White House so that the people get the truth. Maybe we'll see, you know, the Gateway Pundit have a seat at the table. And journalists who really want to put out the truth.

And I just really think this next term of President Trump is going to be so historic. It's going to be a very quick, I don't even know the word whiplash is maybe the best word of turning it around. And I think we can do so quickly. I have great faith and hope that our country is going to turn around, but we have to get President Trump in there for that to happen. I want to talk about a couple of things here with Newsom. Okay.

So Newsom, the Sanctus and Newsom will debate on Fox in November. Boy, they're really trying to push that to governor's thing uh... right but what is that all about right to you know hey so governor is a scientist and newsroom set to participate in ninety minute televised debate moderated by fox shan henry on november thirty of the santa's express is anticipation for this debate stating i look forward to the opportunity to debate gavanusum over our very different visions for the future the country negotiations for

debate rules were initially stled for weeks, but both governors have agreed to a real debate. Not a circus. The Santa's hinted that Newsom might become the Democratic nominee in 2024. Yeah. presidential election saying California's leftism is kind of how the Democratic Party operates. And this is happening while Newsom is not a candidate. And the synthesis behind 50 something points or, you know, whatever the numbers are in

different polls, how do you read this? As a person say, you're not in politics today. You're in media today. You read this story. You're like, wait a minute, why would you do so? Why would Nusom do it? Why would the Santas do it? Nusom's not running. Why are you giving them the platform? Do they know something we don't know that they think it's going to end up being the two of them? This is what, this is the dream, the fantasy of the uniparty. We'll have two governors of two board, not border states, actually, ones of border state. We'll have the two governors, East Coast, West Coast.

We've got the strong governor versus the one who destroyed California. This is their fantasy, okay. And I don't think Joe Biden's going to make it to the finish line. I think they're going to try to toss him out of the vehicle and then have a maybe in the convention bring Newsom in. But can you imagine Newsom even thinking that he could run for president. He destroyed California. They have the phrase, don't California my Arizona. Have you heard that? Well, they have, don't California my Florida? Don't California my Texas, my Tennessee, my Iowa.

You name it. The guy behind that, the reason that statement exists is Gavin Nusom. He has destroyed California. It was just an LA about a week and a half ago. And we were in literally LA in Pasadena and I said, this place almost looks like a third world country. The sides of the roads are filthy. There's people living in tents on the side of the road. Buildings look like they haven't seen paint in decades. It is a city that's falling apart. Skid row is, it's like an asylum and insane asylum on the streets and a horror movie. It's almost as if the people who are on strike in Hollywood have gone over

to Skid Row and, you know, created a horror scene, but it's sadly real life. So Gavin Newsom, I believe will never be president because people don't like you. Did to California. You don't think you'll ever be president? No. You think he will? Oh, I think he's the most formidable guy in the left. I think to underestimate him. Well, maybe he's formidable on the left. And that tells you how bad the left is.

The Democrat party has fallen so low that the guy responsible for turning the golden state into this. The people in California are actually when I go and travel, they're some of the most motivated for change because of him. And so this guy's just, I have zero respect for that man, what he's done to California. And now, do they think we're dumb? He's going to come out and try to act like he's somewhere in the middle and he's really stupid. Well, let me read this.

So here's two stories. He's right from the political. Yeah. So knew some vetoes progressive bill on transgender children and self-driving trucks. Okay. So it's just surprising vetoes that disappointed progressive allies, including a rejection of a bill, Assembly Bill 957 advocating consideration of a child's gender identity and custody disputes. Nusom's veto cited concerns about government dictating legal standards and noted that courts

already considered parents handling of gender identity, dealing with a blow to LGBTQ activists. Newsom also vetoed a bill, mandating human drivers and self-driving trucks, a priority for labor groups, fearing automation, economic impact, the governor defended his decision by arguing

that regulatory agencies were better equipped to oversee this, emerging technology despite labor concerns. Tom made a very good point at the beginning of the podcast before we were going on life, saying, these are all signs of a guy that's preparing for a 2024 election and he wants to be seen more as center. Well, I hope the American people don't lose their memory

of what happened during COVID when that man destroyed, that was really the final nail in the coffin for California. These businesses, they lost, I, I forget the astronomical percentage of restaurants, little mom and pop shops, restaurants were closed down for good. What they did to our children, masking them up forever, they shut the beaches down. Remember when they poured sand on the skate park, you couldn't surf because the waves might give you COVID. I mean, what's going to give you COVID, a shark? What kind of food was opened?

The French laundry was open. That's right. That's right. Incredibly, I'm sure it's great food. It's incredibly expensive. And he was sitting there, I believe, without a mascot. He's hypocrites. And I hope the American people, it's going to be reliant on us moms out there.

If you've got moms watching right now, we cannot forget this stuff that they did to us. We can't let them, we can't have amnesia and go, well, he's, you know, he's going to be great. He's a young guy. No, we can't, we can't let that happen. I think that's who Trump will be running against actually is new. So I think they'll find a way to put him in. They, they, Biden's going to get his, you know, butt handed to him. Vinnie, do you want to read the Senator Bobman and the story on what happened with this guy? Very interesting story. First page, page two.

Right off the bat, it's right there. If you go to the top, open it up as the first story. Right there. Right there. If you open it up on page two, go on more page three. Right there. Top story. Okay.

So, you know what story this is? This guy. He's I mean, he's a Democrat. So he's going to get away with whatever he gets. Wait, can I say something really quick? Because on that on that face off between DeSantis, let's let us not forget that DeSantis also shut the beaches down. DeSantis took a page out of Gavin Newsom's playbook. Despite what he says, he shut the beaches down. He did force vaccines.

He did force face masks on our kids. So he tries to act like he was perfect. And Florida was a census force vaccines on kids. He forced vaccines on people on workers. He forced face masks on children. And he was for all that. DeSantis was for all of that. So he thinks that we forgot that as well.

No granted, he didn't continue the misery as long as a one month or a couple weeks on what it was. It was a little all of that. So he thinks that we forgot that as well. No granted, he didn't continue the misery as long as... There was a one month or a couple weeks on what it was. It was a little more than that. It was a little more than that. The beaches were shut down to people. So anybody who shuts a beach down, I mean... So your view of the Santas, do you see him? How do you see the Santas?

There's a lot of people that love him, but you also made a comment earlier about loyalty and people that come and take what's good from him, Trump, and then they leave and they backstab him. Were you hinting at the sentence or were you talking about other people? He's definitely not loyal. I mean, he, President Trump made him. President Trump gave him an endorsement when he was polling, I think, at 5% or 6, maybe 7% at the most, and he immediately shot up like a rocket ship. And because of President Trump, he won. And actually, President Trump saved Florida with an endorsement.

Whoever he would have endorsed was going to win. But remember, DeSantis barely beat that drug addict. I don't know, drug addict. Andrew Gillam was his name. Yeah. Yeah. Gillam. He was like a sexist. Before that, it was a putnam in the primary. And that was Gillam. But look what's happening in Florida before that it was a putt in the primary in that was a killer, but look what's happening in Florida. I've been speaking to people in Florida and asking what they think of the condition here. You can't is 400% the insurance rates have gone up. Something really outrageous for the cost of living in gone up because everybody's moving here.

A lot of that issue is a hurricane. If you lose your house during a hurricane, you're going to get pennies on the dollar for it. There is an home owner's insurance crisis here, and the cost of living has gone up a lot here in Florida. I mean, I think it's great. Don't get me wrong. Florida's fantastic, but I don't think that's because Ron DeSantis is governor.

I think Florida's a great place to live, and I think it's actually become harder to live in Florida. As a guy that's a fan of both the Santas and Trump policies, I can comfortably say the Santas is the reason why we're here with the policies and the lifestyle of Florida. Don't we love breakers? We love Florida. We love coming down here and doing what we do here. But he had a lot of the good policies that even the NBA felt safe here, sports leaks felt safe here, even AOC parted here. I mean, even the left would come here to party.

The policies are effective policy, but let me go a little bit deeper with you, just curious. So, say Trump never endorses him when he's at five, six, seven percent. Say there's no endorsement like that at all. Who's a governor of the census today? There is no endorsement. Who's governor of the census today? I don't think he would have won. I really don't believe he would have won. And I think he would probably be

trying to get back into Congress. You know, the other thing, the thing I have a problem with is somebody running for governor at the same time. He was running and he knew before he ran that he was going to run for president. He didn't tell people that, I mean, few people knew. But he didn't tell the voter that, and he asked them to re-elect him. And immediately, and people did, Trump supporters helped re-elect him, and he won.

And then immediately he starts running against Trump, the people, and then he took the money that many Trump supporters donated. They do three million dollars, yeah. Yes, and put it over into his pack. What have they met? It could have been 80, 283 minutes. It's a lot of money was. I just, anybody who makes political judgment like that, when he, he could have walked in

and been the president in 28 with hands down, it was going to be Trump and then a DeSantis term, maybe two terms as president. And so he made the political calculation to go up against a giant, a political giant like Trump. That tells me that's not a very smart person. What do you think told him? Okay, because we, I asked this question to Pat once, who do you think was behind the, because like you just said, if the Santa's, because he rocked as a, as a governor, that's

why I passed that, you know, I'm saying we're all here. If he just, you know, say, okay, listen, I'm going to stand the wings, I'll be your VP. I'll, I'll watch you. I'll learn how to speak publicly. Because when he speaks in Florida, he carries small little audiences. He goes after everybody and he's the ronda santa that we know. On the big stage, it's almost like he's,

he doesn't know what he's doing because he's not used to that type of problem. That's a really great thing to look at now because he, everything was very controlled. Yes. You saw that, you saw, and that's why people found love with him. So like, oh, he did a great job in that press conference. He really got them. But you really didn't see him.

Did he ever do your show and speak for two hours live with you? Who's this? Santa's house. I know. He did. Did you ever see him go on Tim Kass for three hours and just get anything thrown at him? They won't do that. He's never rescheduled God knows how many times are already. Every time it's like, we're going to do it. We're going to do it. And it's like something that's kind of starting to really believe after being peppered with the craziest questions on a variety of different media platforms, that if you're gonna run for office, if you can't hold your own

in a three hour podcast, I agree. Yep. That's when you really, it's hard to hold up if you've got, if you've kind of got your consultant points and they're drilled into your head. Just to be fair, Trump's also not been a three hour podcast. So if Trump is open to a three hour podcast, I know a couple people that would like to entertain.

I will tell them he should do that. You may want to tell them that because even an hour and a half, like this is a two hour podcast. I see. And I respect the hell out of you for sitting here taking questions left, right center. That's something that Ron DeSantis has not done. Yeah. Trump has done some, I mean, he did the

interview that was pretty long. Three hours maybe, you know, he is a kind of a Trump will go on CNN with Caitlin Collins and take tough questions. He has to say to say, to say, with Trump, look, this is, I know it's going to sound weird, what I'm about to say. This is why I look, just last week I had a very big debate here, discussion here. We had two Muslim sitting here. We had two Christians sitting here, okay. And it was very heated, it went all over the place.

A lot of people, you know, saying things from the conservative Muslim side, from the Christian side, it was all over Twitter, okay. There's been a few hundred reaction videos to this podcast that we had. I want to sit down and have both sides talk to one another, right? I got a lot of respect for Newsom and Trump for one thing. Newsom will go sit down with Hannity and have a discussion. He has no problem with that. Newsom's not afraid.

I don't agree with his policy. You mean for this debate, he'll sit down with them? He already did. He's done two with Hannity already. Well, and then you have to ask what that news outlet, whether it be Fox or whatever, is trying to accomplish. They are trying to set the stage, they are trying to set the stage in the mind of America that these should be the two candidates.

But you know, you know, I'm saying that I don't disagree with you, but Brett bear, I mean, sorry, John Herney pushed him and you can't say that Sean Anderson is in a new shrunk fan. No, you can't say that. No, some held his own. It was very impressive on the way you did it. Believe me, this outlet that you're talking about wants new some on the ballot.

They want this set up. And you have to realize when they're, even the people they allow on, who are they allowing on? I don't disagree either because I think, I will tell you, I want to see Laker Celtics in a final. I don't want to see no Milwaukee playing Phoenix. I don't want to see that.

I don't want to see that. Yeah, he's going to be very upset. I'm not against Yannis. I think Yannis needs to go to a bigger market like New York. I think he will in the next couple of years, but going back to this here with what we're talking about. So I think the reason why respect Trump is because he'll say, he's a gamer anywhere.

Newsom, I don't know if Newsom's done along. I'd love to have Newsom here for a couple hours and talk to him. I think Newsom has enough brass to do it. So the Santis hasn't shown he can do that. I think Fox probably wants a DeSantis Nusom for one reason they can't stand Trump from the, you know, Paul's, Ryan side and Carl Rolf side you were talking about earlier.

And I think it's gonna be a better matchup of Nusom DeSantis future young. That's kind of how they see it They just don't like Trump over there. Not everybody some of them don't so I think they probably would rather have new some than Trump A lot of these people in the media as a president as a president Well, look at look at some of these never trumpers who were so-called Republicans who endorsed Biden Yeah, Cindy McCain for starters endorsed Biden. Oh, you know who we're having on next week. You'll love this. Who's on your next week Rob? Is it not next week this Friday? No, this Friday is Schmidt from

Schmidt from you know who he is. It's gonna be a wonderful Shreddys. Yeah, Lincoln Project. Yeah, we're gonna have a great conversation with them. So we're gonna see what he has on it But let's the Lincoln project. Yeah, it's the Lincoln Project project folks that do you want to do you want to read that bob and i mean it's not just trust me it's fine so uh... senator bobman and as uh... faces increasing calls from democrats to resign following his indictment in a bribery screen uh... new jersey governor fill murphy and democratic lawmakers from the state

including reps uh... miki sharel bill pass grail junior and josh got heimer have called for his resignation despite the calls for reggaonation men that has asserted in a sense labeling the charges as false and attribute them to active smear campaign of anonymous sources and you and those he has refused to step down because the democrat from the uh... senate position standing i am not

going anywhere to be fair that thing doesn't say everything, because a Manhattan U.S. attorney office charged him with accepting cash and gold bars. Yeah. And there's text messages. And a car and a Mercedes and they gave him some. He's saying, oh, I was just taking money out and I was just, I was holding it, you know, it was kind of storing it and hiding it in my closet. Yeah.

I still love the, a lot of that. I'm not going to store it into the jacket. Did you hear his Lawsett. Yeah. I still love the, I'm not going into the jack. Did you hear his reasoning though? Yeah, truly not in you windows. He said that a lot of it was because his lineage came from Cuba and that they understand that sometimes you need to turn these things into things you can run away with because they fled Cuba 60 years ago. I mean, he's going the fall.

If you buy that, I think that guy's got to go through sales. Yeah, exactly. He's got a good state. He's got a good state. The men and the ledges that Menendez accepted cash, gold bars, and other benefits, and exchange for using his office to benefit businessmen and the Egyptian government. That's probably where the gold is coming. So what? All these people are selling out America.

Egypt, they're selling us out to the CCP with the Biden's and that crime family. I think everybody in DC, I think Trump just put this out on his truth social. Everybody who's guilty or done something like this, they all should step down. And I don't think it's just Menendez and Biden. There's a lot of them.

There's a lot of them on both sides. I think the majority, probably the majority in DC have done something unethical like this. And this goes beyond unethical. This is just criminal if he is convicted. See, see, it's a message. That's corrupted it. I don't disagree that it is.

By the way, a lady whose husband we hung out with this last weekend. So we are in, this is a crazy story. So we're in New York, okay. I took 34 of my guys, my friends, my executives, and I said, go to New York, we went to 11 Madison. We had dinner there. We won't comment on that.

We had dinner at 11 Madison. I had a lot of plans. And then we had afterwards, we were trying to go to Yankees game the next day, and it rained out. So we said, listen guys, I had my kids with me. My son was 20, 10 years old, Dylan. Happy birthday, Dylan. He was 20, 10 years old. So I got my 11, 10, my seven year old daughter with me. We got to show him a good time. So we go to this place called Chelsea Pierce, phenomenal place. We go way early, 10 o'clock in the

morning, places, like nobody said, we get a bunch of bowling lanes and we start having conversations on who would you like to have on the podcast. Vinnie's talking to me. The door is behind me. Vinnie's here. Thomas here. Sam is here. Kim is here. And you're saying who would you want to have? I say I look at Pat and mind your care. I'm worried when he says nobody's there. I'm talking about they're just setting up getting ready. Literally nobody's there. Nobody is there. And by the way, he just randomly goes, Hey, kids, where do you want to chill?

There's a last minute decision because of the game. Pat's back to the door like he said. And then I just hear kind of talking, I just hear, Hey, Vinny, who do you think will be a good interview for me at interview? And I go, right off the, I didn't even, he has to take care. I go, put in questions. Why? I go because he's such a polarizing individual.

I would love to hear that type of conversation from him because Pat would push him with questions He's a very interesting guy. I go Pat. Who would you want and I'm not joking care This is this is 100% God's might witness. I'm a standing right next Thomas right there Pat goes You know what I wouldn't I wouldn't be interested in interviewing Hillary But you know what Bill Clinton. I'm not even joking, Kerry. I just see a white hair guy walk in. Three seconds. And it's Bill Clinton and I go Pat, remind me for my language, I go Pat, Bill Clinton just walked into the F and door.

And Pat goes, what the hell is going? I'm very weird. So Bill walks in. Then what? Bill walks in. So tell me his name is the secret man. The secret man walks in. The secret service guy walks up and I go up to one

I said how weird is that and then it's weird cuz I go Bill what are you doing and a bowling alley goes Do you know my wife is he goes anything I get away? He goes I just had to go anywhere. But he's by himself. And I guess there's a private party. There's like a private party for some kids, which is great. They were having a private party.

And he walks in and talks to an older couple, which I guess he knew. And then mind you, Kerry, Secret Service, five or six, he's just walking around. By the way, Kerry, for two hours, he went no joke. He probably shook by the time it was then there was a bunch of people there. He probably shook 150 people. Easy. He understands read politics. He's so smooth. So Hillary, his wife, okay, very different, sweetheart,

right? Hillary Clinton. Most likable. She warns. She warns of potential Russian election interference in 2024. And she said he'll do it again. Can you please play that clip and let's get a reaction? Exactly. Exactly what it is. If you can play the, Rob, I thought you had the clip prepared already. You had it up.

No, he had it up already. Isn't Rob, he's over there working his butt off. Wow. He's a good kid. Oh, this is the, that's the one. That's the one. The Ginger Swindler. Oh, this is the, what's the one? That's the one. The ginger swindler.

Ooh, but Rob, that's three minutes and five seconds. It's very soggy. What have these you pulled up earlier? It had the sub paddles in Russian. They were. It's when you walked out. That the one. I think it's the one on the bottom, the less than this one is 59 seconds.

Okay, press it. Let's see what she says. She's pretty long. Win the bonus. I'm here, Putin, honestly. You're a friend. You're just a big fan of like he has intervened in our election in the past. It's not

something as you experienced firsthand. It's not something we talk about a lot. Do you fear that that is something that could be happening for 20 or do you think we should be talking about it more. Well, I think we should be talking about it more because I don't think despite all of the the others you the deniers,

there's any doubt that he interferes in our election or that he has interfered in many ways in the internal affairs of other countries, funding political parties, funding political candidates, buying off government officials in different places. So that is his opus operandi in the sense that he hates democracy. He particularly hates the West, and he especially hates us. And he has determined that he can do two things. Do you guys understand what's happening? The gall of this woman who was literally behind the Russian collusion hoax about cheating is over here warning us that Putin is going to do it this time.

Like, are you kidding me? Like is that real life? We're stuck in some sort of a loop right now. This whole country is like, they're trying, and the gas lighting has been so off the charts and now they're gonna go completely with gas lighting like this. And it's just a repeat of what they've been doing for the past eight years.

Oh, there he is, is that bill? You're, look at them, look at that shirt. That shirt just says, I'm going to a bowling alley without my wife. Look at that thing. It would say this shirt with a blue blazer and a Ukraine flag. No, he had a Ukraine flag on? Yeah, he did.

Yeah, he did. And I didn't have my Americans with it. But I was smoothness of him. Look at him. His work in what he's wearing, just like an average gel and connecting with everybody. A people were not answering the glaring question. Did you ask him to be on the show?

No, I did not. No, but the guy that was with him, the guy that was with him, which was very good to hear. His secret service guy was a fan of the show. He watched a podcast. He says, Mr. David, I watched a podcast. You can approach President Clinton and talk to him. And we had a very good conversation together.

My wife went to the same elementary school as he did. Obviously not the same year. But I think he went to the... Yes, that's a Jen Crop and Arkansas. She could open a whole park and said they went to... Interesting. That's hilarious. I'm...

Your old wife would be... Here's my wife, you know, real scary, scary, you know what you're doing. So anyways, this is another joke of another scary, because but anyway, so yeah, my wife and him went to the same school, so I said, hey, you know, and he's, oh wow, yes. And then I also went to your house and I noticed you were recognized as the cutest baby.

You won an award in 2000 and whatever the year was. Yeah, when he was two years old. But in the city, we go to this funeral house, okay? And I go to this funeral home, we're there for a funeral. My wife's that passed away. So we're there for that reason. We're in the hope arcans, hope arcans. So we go to this place and I say, so tell me,

how was Bill Clinton? What did you guys know about him in the city? And he says, well, what do you mean? I said, is he the womanizer that people claim he is? He says, of course he is. I said, did you guys have a problem with that? He says, you don't know who he's married to? He says, is his wife?

He says, everybody here loves Bill. He said, well, let me tell you about his wife. He says, one time, Bill's uncle dies. And he's up there giving a speech. There's a bunch of people there. He says, and Hillary sealed to the corner She wanted to sit away from everybody bills minklin with everybody. I think bet mid-litters there or something like that And he says afterwards they're going to you know the plot to do the final you know ceremony and

She says we're there with secret service security everybody. She said don't have an expect me to go there I'm going back home. This is all I'm gonna do here. You go handle the rest. I got to go home. Says she was the meanest person we ever met. Hillary. Hillary. Obviously it's surprising to hear a story like that. I'm sure that's never.

That smile's a lot. Right. Yeah. But you know, we don't know the whole story. There's a lot of different stories behind it. Bill is a guy I would love to have a long conversation with. I would also like to talk to her. I just don't think she'd ever do it. Never. No, I think she would only have a long conversation with. I would also like to talk to her. I just don't think she'd ever do it.

Never. No, I think she would only do a long conversation with someone where there were parameters set and you aren't gonna ask about this. And they're on the same team. And I think a lot of these people are a media are part of the kind of deep state unipartied, they're in on it all.

So if you would be willing to do that, I mean, like I came on the show, I don't think that we had any parameters. No, I don't. I don't. I don't. I usually tell people I'll answer anything. It may not be the answer you want, but I'll answer anything. And I don't believe that Hillary would do that. If you wanted to start asking her about the 30,000 emails that are missing bleach, bidding, or phones, you know, if you want to start asking her about all more difficult questions, money and where the money went in Clinton. My interest was more hair product.

It's what I wanted to ask about. I wanted to ask about hair product. Or the suicide rate of friends and employees that just can't handle leaving and not working with them. So they just, they killed themselves. The question is, when she starts talking about you and she did start talking about me toward the end, they were worried with the Katie Hobbs thing. Um, you know, Bill Clinton was talking about Hobbs and, and Hillary started talking about

me. They had Eric Holder come in and, and campaign and Bill, or, uh, Obama came in and campaign, which was the funniest, by the way. He said, he was going after me saying, oh, she looks good on TV and she's good on television and she can speak well. And but Katie Hobbs chooses not to look good. She could look good, but she chooses not to speak. It's on a clip. Is he actually trying to give me an endorsement? Yeah, yeah. But when Hillary Clinton starts talking about you because of this history, you do tense up a

little bit. Of course, you do tense up a little bit. Of course, you got to double down a security. Oh boy, let's check the brakes on the car. I'm in perfect health, I'm not suicidal. You know, I just want the viewers to know that. You should actually get, yeah. So let's go to the next story, Ted Cruz. Okay.

Says Dems could discard Biden for Michelle Obama in 2024, which by the way, this was just a couple days ago, September 23rd, it's not a story a couple days ago, September 23rd. It's not a, you know, a story of a year ago or something like that. So some people have eluded to this and you said you were with Roger Stone last night, Roger fully believes Michelle Obama's going to be the one that's going to come in. And he said this to us multiple times. So Texas Senator Ted Cruz has raised the possibility that Democrat King Makers might opt to replace President Joe Biden for Michelle Obama before 2024.

Emphasizing Biden's age, Cruz stated on his podcast verdict with Cruz that he views this scenario as a very serious danger. Cruz outlined reasons why Michelle Obama would be could be an appealing choice for Democrats, including her popularity amongst African American women. He suggested that she could be parachuted into the 2024 national DNC schedule for August 2024 in her hometown of Chicago as a way to avoid a divisive primary potentially with the assistance of super delegates. As a way to avoid a divisive primary, no, as a way to avoid the vetting of candidates. Our candidate should be vetted. The whole process is about vetting a candidate.

And so, you know, Paris shooting in is a really convenient way of not being asked tough questions of allowing the media to just, you know, go gaga over somebody. I would need, as a voter, and I hope that Democrat voters would want more vetting on where do you stand on the issues? And there's been a lot of corruption from the Obama campaign was very corrupt. And there needs to be some questions asked of that. But the media will never ask tough questions of Obama. You saw the interview that Tucker did, the man who made accusations.

Many. There's a clear. Yes. Many years ago, it was out there. He took a, you know, light detector test. He spoke out about his, you know, sexual relationship with Obama. And drug use. And drug use.

Yeah. And the media never covered it. They knew about it and they never covered it. They were told, if you covered this, you will never have an interview with Obama. You will be iced. And the media never covered that. Can you imagine if that came out incredible? They take sources that aren't credible that are just plain lying. It's really obvious. The facts don't back them up.

And with Trump and they run all kinds of crazy stories. But that never got play. So I don't like the idea of someone parachuting in, but I don't think I still don't think it'll work up by the time the election rolls around the way I see it. The American people are going to be so tired of the Democrat policies. And if they think it's going to be any different under Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama, then it is under Biden. Who do you think is more formidable and more likely? Who. I kind of think that more formidable, meaning I mean, I don't know. Over a chance of winning. Michelle or Newsom has more of a chance than winning.

And who's more likely of actually being the one in 2020? I don't think either of them have a chance of winning, but as far as who would the Democrats pick, I think maybe Newsom. Over Michelle. That's kind of racist, isn't it? No. So funny. I just, I'm not sure.

I've never really heard her speak on the issues. So I don't know that, you know, other than, you know, very controlled situation. Why do you think people are so sensitive? I mean, I'm just throwing a shot here at the dark point. Michelle has never once indicated that she's gonna run. I have friends on both sides of the aisle, friends that are on the left, her like,

dude, there's no chance she's running. Why does this still continue to be propagated by even the Ted Cruz's of the world or the fans? Maybe if it's really bad and they're thinking, oh my gosh, Trump's going to win by such a lancer, they will put Michelle in because it would be harder, I think, because of the you just said, I'm racist for saying that it might be new. No, what I'm saying is that's what they would say.

I know. They would say. Yeah, I agree with that. It was joking. No, I know you were joking, but there is that sense of you can ask tough questions because if you are a journalist, you might't ask tough questions because if you are a journalist, you might be accused of being racist if you are. So maybe they're, if they're really in dire situation, they might put Michelle and Kamala.

Oh my God. I would 100. Interesting. Yeah. A couple good thing about it being other Obama. Black Obama. She, she, her, her, her, her, her, her name. Just the name Obama and let's not, let's not, and Kamala Obama and Kamala and let's

not, don't forget, bro. Zero percent chance. Just the name Obama and let's not and Kamala Obama and Kamala and let's not don't forget bro zero percent Michelle Obama speaks in front of Orenas that I'm telling you right now they just came on they said hey Michelle's running trust me bro she would get should get the votes but carry quick question because we

did a really fast pat Tucker did have Larry Sinclair we were thinking about motive and pat made a great question of why would Tucker out of all times of all people? Because he didn't have you anybody from Elon Musk to whatever. Why bring the guy that accused him, the module, you said it, signed an affidavit, fat to lie to take a test twice that said that all these things happened.

Do you think it was a move on Tucker because he hates the establishment so much care that he was like, you know what, just to let you guys know, I'm having this guy come up to just in case Michelle does run, you're going to have to address this because they were hiding. Michelle left the country and Brock was MIA. Nobody even, they could even reach the game. The left never asked any questions of them after that. Is that weird? And even cover it, they just attacked Tucker.

Yeah, exactly. So do you think it's like a move on Tucker just because Tucker has kind of that power to be like, okay, I just did this because if she does announce there's more of this kind. You're gonna have to talk and address this guy because that guy is not going anywhere. Could be, that could be, right? That they're seeing that the Obama's might make a repeat appearance. Yeah. So now you have a little bit of ammunition because you know, I mean, as we all know, Tucker

is not establishing. Well, the interesting thing this time around is last time they had the media, just as I said, I was in, when I went into the interview with Obama, which I thought was a more tough interview because most people aren't ever don't ever ask him a question that he wouldn't want. Most people in journalism, the entire press pool was so enamored with Obama. They didn't ask tough questions of him, nothing. And then a year later, when I was there at the Trump White House,

it was like everybody was on attack mode. They were on steroid attack mode. It was just the strangest thing. I'll never ask a tough question of the Obama's. But this time around, that media does, that media exists. However, there's also the alternative media. And if they think those questions aren't going to be answered this time around, I think they have another thing coming.

Yeah, and I love your, the comparison. Have you seen the White House press briefings now? Well, Korean jump here, it's quiet. Peter Ducey asked one question. She shuts them down. They move on. Donald Trump and had like Sarah Huckabee in there. It was a shit show. Sorry for my words. It was insanity. People yelling Jim Acosta, this person running to the front, it was insane. Now they all

know, don't, don't ask crazy questions. It's insane how to see. Not even crazy. Just questions that are going to be pointed and getting to the truth. If you have, because I think Peter do see his questions are all legitimate. 100%. 100%. I think he does a great job. He does a great job, Peppa. But here's the thing.

Here's something, someone would say, okay, he asked these questions and then what? Nothing ever happens. Just the other day he goes, Karine, what do you call 10,000 illegals coming over the border? And she answers with a question and she says, what do you call the GOP goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're not answering.

I try to answer and she leaves. And nobody, this is what my father's me, Pat. That happens. She doesn't answer the question, Kerry. Not one of these so-called reporters goes, no, no, hold on a second. I want you to answer that question. What do you call 10,000 people coming here, 13,000 a day?

It's an invasion. That's what it is. They're coming to invade us. And nobody holds their foot to the fire. So Peter Ducey, he asked the questions, nothing happens. Zero. Because the group that controls who goes into the White House,

I forget the name of the actual group, they won't let serious journalists in. They only want people who are going to have the same ideology. And they have to let Foxen and thank God Peter Ducey asked the tough questions, but that's about the, there's a couple. There's that, I don't remember his name. He's a reporter, but I believe from Africa and he has tough questions. They kicked them out once.

They took his credentials and then I get straight put them back in. Oh, yes, Simon, right? Simon, Simon, Simon. I think they kicked them out. Yeah, I think they kicked them out. Rob, Rob, did he get his credentials back? I hate it. Simon, right? Simon. I think they kicked him off. Yeah, I think they kicked him off. Rob. Rob. Rob, did he get his credentials back?

Cause I'm pretty sure, Kerry, they kicked him out because he would, he would talk over her and not let her just blow over him. He's like, no, no, answer the question. Well, listen, Kerry, this has been fantastic. Having you on. I know you have a book that just came out unafraid. We're going to put the link below for people to go order the book, but didn't you also start a podcast? Aren't you? You got something going on with the tell us about it. So it's a weekly and I actually did a couple of interviews while I was

in town here. Very cool. To be coming up. It's just a weekly. I want to, I love being a journalist. I love asking questions. I love hearing people's stories. So it's just a way to continue to do that. I love asking questions. I love hearing people's stories. So it's just a way to continue to do that. And once a week show is a lot easier to do than a daily, as you all know. So that's, you can see that. And I put it out everywhere. I put it on my rumble page.

I put it on Twitter. So the next one's coming up. I'm not sure which one we're going to be dropping next, but it's sure to be exciting. I have a Roseanne interview that I just did. I talked to Eric Trump, Roger Stone. I've got a few more things up my screen. Nice. Very cool.

What we're going to put the link below to the website as well. Probably the best place to follow. It'll drive to everything else. And make sure to order. It will carry, keep up the fight. Thank you. It's great seeing you everywhere. You're a super necessary voice.

Thank you. And thank you for having the courage to talk about these issues that are taboo now. The really important, I want our country to be strong. I want our future to be strong. And without fighting some of these fights that are difficult, then we won't have a country. So thank you all. Anytime. We're with you. So I believe Wednesdays the debate, Rob Wednesday night will be the debate at the Toronto Region Library. You will be there. Yes. We may be there. And then Thursday morning, we may do a reaction podcast here. We'll let the audience know what's going to be happening,

but that's going to be happening. This weekend and Friday, we definitely have a podcast. Or two, I think Mary Ann Williamson's also going to be here on Friday. We got everybody coming. Left, right, middle, center, Muslim Christian. It doesn't matter what a doctor, right? That's what we want to do.

That's what I want to do. That's what I think media should be all about. Have a great one, everybody. We'll see you guys on Thursday. Take care. Bye-bye-bye. you you