PBD Podcast - “Largest Protest In UK History” - Tommy Robinson: Defending UK Against The Islamic Revolution | PBD Podcast | Ep. 649

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Tommy Robinson for a no-holds-barred conversation on Britain’s largest protest, immigration, free speech, Elon Musk’s support, the monarchy, Qatar, and what’s next for the UK’s political future.----Ⓜ️ MINNECT WITH TOMMY ROBINSON: https://bit.ly/43FeUTA📚 GET TOMMY'S BOOK: https://bit.ly/4jO2vkZ

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How did the support from Elon to you happen? The left is the party of murder. What do you know about Prince Charles and his relationship with Muslim? Guitar are in bed with Oolok. They own more in our capital city than Prince Charles. How concerned are you for an event that happened to Charlie Crook to happen to you in the UK? It would spark an uprising like the government happened every retreat. Did you ever think you would make it?

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I think I've ever said this before. Tommy Robinson. How you doing? I'm good, man. I'm good. Thank you. So unite the kingdom, the protest you had in London. I saw videos of it.

Rob, I don't know if you want to pull it up. The videos look like how many people, I hear numbers. I know the people who don't like you, they said it's 100,000. The videos look like millions are out there. Give me the premise behind the event and how many people was out there. The energy looked amazing with Elon Musk going out there speaking. Maybe tell us a little about the event. So this is our fourth event, fifth event.

So we started with 30,000. We then went to 100,000, we went to 200,000, and this Saturday we had millions of bricks, millions, okay? Now, what's funny is watching them, say, 110,000, without just realizing that we had, we had 2 million people watching live on X. So, and then you had millions that would have attended. Everyone there, and anyone watching the videos, which are now reaching tens and tens and if not hundreds of millions of people, can see it wasn't 110,000. So they just exposed themselves time and time again. this was the biggest protest in British history ever, probably doubled the size of any process. For years, we've heard about the Iraq war protest. It was the biggest thing that this country's ever seen.

No, this Saturday, unite the kingdom, the British public standing up and saying, we're not being replaced and staying silent anymore. You're not having uncontrolled mass immigration, endangering our daughters, endangering our wives, whilst then beating us down with your racist labels, your fascist labels, or your Islamophobic labels. it doesn't wash anymore. It's broken. That has gone. That power that they had to install fear in a nation, because they did successfully for 20 years, have everyone whispering. They had everyone whispering. That's gone. And every move they make, it's just backfired. It's literally like a fire is burning, and they just keep pouring gasoline on it. Even their response to Saturday, they're just blowing the fire up even more. They're giving us more supporters. Every move they make, I just sit down and think, there's nothing you can actually do here.

There's nothing you can do to stop what has started. Now, our purpose of Unite in the Kingdom was to bring people together to, this is, this is Britain's MAGA. That's what it is, and it's not going anywhere. It's a movement of identity, of culture. We've lost our culture, and we've lost it intentionally because they have attacked it. They've attacked it. They've demonized it, and they've celebrated every other culture in this country. And as soon as we want to celebrate us, what you saw was the neglected for God.

silent majority coming out in their millions and it was a wonderful day the atmosphere was great we had singers we had entertainment um we united this kingdom in in ways the government could only dream of now let me ask you so while you're doing how long ago did you set up this date how long ago did your supporters know this was coming so i gave this date when i walked out of prison so i just spent as you know i spent i've got an 18-month prison sentence for making a documentary Remember the public watch all of this 167 million people

watch that film they know I went to jail and I took the prison sentence for reporting the truth they know that the minute I got into jail my first phone call my first meeting with my team

as soon as I come in I just said set the date because we need to start off where we left off now they put me in prison they arrest me on terrorism charges after our 100,000 event there's never been

100,000 Patriots gather in our capital city in a total peaceful unifying celebration. So they were worried by that. And next day I was detained under terrorism legislation at the border. And I've actually faced prison for that in four weeks time because I refuse to give them access to my phone. I'm a journalist. Even when they detain me, they said, we know you're not involved in terrorism, Tommy, Stephen, but this legislation allows us to do this. And then you have no right to remain silent in which for six hours I was grilled by

counterterrorism police about my legal, lawful activism as a journalist and also with the United Kingdom. They wouldn't know who's behind it. How did you fund it? What's your plans next? I just hold them straight. We're not going anywhere. I'll tell you, you'll see my plans next as we continue to grow this movement against you guys. And the reason I'm doing it is exactly what you've just sat down and said to me. Their first words were the first question was, what do you think of Britain at the minute? I said it's a totalitarian shitterion. Because look what you've done. Exactly what you're doing now. This is a total abuse of power. When the British public, when you've passed your laws, which is what they continually do, create the problem that they're doing now in mass

migration, high levels of crime, high levels of violence, and then they'll come in with the solution, which is their digital ID, which Kirstarmer's government's already talking about doing it, because we'll be so desperate because the level of crime and violence, the sexual assault, rape, has gone through the roof. 2003, we had 8,000 rapes. Holy moly. Did you say 8 to 88,000, 11x? 8 to 88,000. Wow. So while I'm watching this, Elon Musk is a big support of yours, big. He shared your documentary, which got a couple hundred million views, and the one day he did a year and a half ago, whatever the timer was two years ago,

you get out of jail, we meet in Bahamas, we do that interview together. And then now Elon Musk was one of the ones that came out in your United Kingdom. And he had a few words to say, if you don't mind playing this clip here, and if you can react to it afterwards, go ahead, Rob. And then you see how much violence there's on the left, with our friend Charlie Cook getting murdered in cold blood this week, and people on the left celebrating it openly. The left is the party of murder and celebrating murder. I mean, let that sink in for a minute. That's who we're dealing with here.

how long how did the support from Elon to you happen did he DM you did you did you DM him how did that relationship start with the two of you well for this event obviously when I was in jail

Elon that spoke up on my behalf which I was very grateful for and he made our mission complete because I went to jail knowing that maybe no one watched this film but I took that risk as soon as he shared that film and he didn't just share that film

Patrick the most important thing that he did was he shone a torch on the of our doors, something we've been trying to do for 15 years. He literally brought it to the world's attention. So I was very grateful, but when I got out recently with regard to this, I just, I contacted him. And I don't know if you're aware, but because Elon paid my legal bills. On this next terrorism case, Elon's picked up the bills for it. He spent hundreds of thousands of pounds in my imprisonment trying to change how I was being held because I was being held in solitary confinement. So he fought for me and he fought for our free speech. With that, Patrick,

As Briggs, the only people fighting for our free speech right now are in the United States of America. It's Donald Trump, it's J.D. Vance. It's Elon Musk. What you witnessed this Saturday, it just couldn't have happened without X, without us having a platform for debate, without us being able to share the truth. Because you can see the media are saying 110,000 people. If we didn't have X, if I was still banned, because I'm still banned on Facebook and I'm still banned on Instagram, which I think Dana White's in charge there. I still don't, now he is. I don't understand it. I've never been convicted for anything. Why my band? Why is mentioning my name band?

They have me as a dangerous individual. So none of the videos of the scenes and the sides of the crowds that you can see, no one would have even got them if they didn't have X, because they would control all of them like they do. So the public would have been told 110,000 people turn up. And they've done this to us for years. We'd have a demonstration. There'd be 15,000 people there.

Let's say 2,000. This is even going about years or hundreds. So, yeah, you know what, we're absolutely grateful. It was a great moment for me as well. my kids and my mum in out of there and I've been in a battle here for 15 years and they got to see the beautiful size of the crowd

I obviously got to interview Ian Musk if many people get that chance so he gave us a lot of his time for such a busy man and I think for our supporters it would be a great moment and it was a surprise as well we didn't anyone though

so yeah it was a wonderful moment so here's a question for you you're there there is tens of thousands of people behind you news breaks Charlie Kirk is shot, then assassinated,

at an event, public event, at a university in Utah. And I see reports here that shows 26 officers hurt. I don't know what the report is, but this is from Birmingham Live. There's another report saying 25 arrested. So you have a government that doesn't want to see you do what you're doing. They don't want your message to spread. And the more they push back, the bigger it gets. how concerned are you

for an event that happened to Charlie Crook to happen to you in the UK? Yeah, I'm concerned, but I also believe that if it did, it'd be the final now in their coffin, not mine. It would be mine as well. It'd be the final now in their coffin. No one knows what moment's going to spark

the revolution. Look, other ways no looking at Europe. Something's going to hit, and when it does, none of us are in control of it, but something's going to change the direction of Europe. Now, we are heading in the wrong direction we're being replaced we're under attack

with mass immigration. Now Northern Ireland about the history of Northern Ireland Bloody Sunday changed the direction of Northern Ireland as a historic day.

I believe if I was targeted in such a way it would spark an uprising like the government had never even dream of or could never even dream of so I believe that would happen

a lot of people telling me we should be careful or you need to be extra careful I probably do need to be extra careful I walk everywhere without security I had the incident recently at a train station in London. I don't have the funds to pay for 24 our security,

and I am living in amongst it, within the UK, as a target. But I just think that we got in this mess. We're in this mess through being careful. All of us as a country are in this mess through being careful. Now is not the time to be careful. And now's not the time showing me fit. I listened to what Charlie Kirk said. Charlie Kirk actually spoke up massively for me,

but not just for me when I was imprisoned, for Brits' free speech. He got it. Go back to his comments from 2018. He fully understood what was happening with free speech. And then he traveled here recently. He helped shine the torture on it. And if you listen to what he says,

and I think that that's what people should try to do, and he will inspire, still now, even though he's dead, the next generation's videos will continue to inspire them. But they took him out because he was so influential in getting the, whether it be the forgotten or the young men to understand their identity,

to understand their purpose, to give them faith. And that's what we said. want to do. We, we, we, Kirstarman was voted in off nine million votes. 20 million people just didn't vote, Patrick, in that election. But 20 million are us. The people who have been told their voices don't matter. Their voices don't count. So we're there to tell them, no, your voices do count and you do matter. And if we can captivate them and we can electrify the working class, see, a lot of this comes down to class in the UK. They don't like us. That's the reality of it. The establishment do not like us. Now, we've got 650 politicians in, in Westminster. How

of them were there to speak to the neglected forgotten people. How many of them? Not one. We had politicians flying from Poland, France, Germany, Belgium, all over Europe, lead politicians come to speak to the British population. Not one, because the whole building is still the establishment. It doesn't matter if they say they're against the establishment on X. If they say they're against the establishment, they'd have been there with the people. No. We, so we want to be the cultural revolution, but this country needs a political revolution. But it needs a political revolution that doesn't censor the people getting involved in. So, for example, the Reform Party, which is Nigel Farage,

which I believe we'll win the next election, yeah, and we'll be a hell of a lot better than where we're at. But they still censor and ban. You can't talk about transgenderism. You can't talk about Islam. So we don't need a government that tells the public that they can't raise their concerns. And people are kicked out of their party for doing so. Right.

Because that's an attack. That's an attack on free speech still. That's not believing in free speech. I saw Nigel Farage sat in America talking about free speech. They don't believe in free speech themselves. They just don't believe it. Everyone has to sign an NDA. Everyone has a signed NDA who's in the hierarchy of reform.

What do you mean by that? Signing an NDA for what? Not to talk about me. I know, no. You said Nigel Farage. Everyone has to sign an NDA. What do you mean by that? I mean that as a political party,

anyone who becomes a council or a member of parliament has to sign the agreement that they won't speak about, for Tommy Woodson. So what's your relationship with Nigel Farage? see our event with 100,000 people I stood there this is in July 27th and I said how many of you voted for reform and literally every single person put their hand up because reform reform become the party for the fed up people yeah so everyone put their hand up so then I asked Nigel forage Nigel stop lying about us because Nigel continued Nigel basically parents because remember Nigel isn't working class he's probably never been to working class a state in his life and he was an elitist banker. That's Nigel. So he comes in, he speaks about these issues, but then condemns us. That's what

he did. And he carried on condemning us. And when I was in prison, Nigel come out and said that I had, he justified my imprisonment, which is what I believe caused the fallout with Elon Musk. He justified while I was in prison. Again, it's like, everyone's seen the documentary

Nigel, like, people know what I don't. So he come out and justified it. Then he come out and said that I have convictions on mainstream TV. He said, I have conviction for violence against women. Just made up. Just made up. Now, this is me the next leader. And that's, and my ex-wife, and my kids had to see this mess. He comes out on TV and says, I've got conviction for violence against women. It's just a lie. But all of these things, you may have to remember that when I went to prison, there was a mass movement again to

free Tommy Robinson. Nigel come out and tried to put out of the fire, yeah? And he done it last time in 2018 as well. So Nigel comes out on behalf of the establishment. That's what I see. And that's what many people now see. Since Nigel Fragge gave his position to Zia Yusuf, he gave his position to Zia Yusuf, he sold a position to a Muslim gentleman to become chairman of reform. From the time that happened, they can't talk about Islam. They asked Nigel in an interview, Nigel's interview sat down and said, by 2050, I've watched all these interviews while I was in prison. By 2050, the Islamic demographic is going to be so powerful in the UK. We cannot alienate. Now for me, That is someone pulling up the white flag, and we don't want to pull up the white flag.

In fact, we have to stop the Islamic demographic getting to that point by 2050, whereas Nigel's doing everything you can to not stop it. The previous government held a no benefits for more than two children, yeah. Now, that was to stop. My local imams got three wives and 14 kids, and we just pay for it, yeah? So certain policies have been brought in which could help deter the demographical explosion that we see. Nigel's reversed that. Nigel said he's not bothered about this.

that it's impossible to do mass deportations. He's been forced now with the over the window shifting so fast over the last 12 months, he's been forced to say he will do some deportations, yeah? He said when we talk about demography, when we talk about the demographical change, he's not bothered about the demographic change. He's not bothered if whites become a minority in Britain. He said that's not, he doesn't care about it.

We do. We do, just as black Nigerians would care if they become a minority in Nigeria, just as Japanese would care if they become a minority in Japan. it cannot be allowed to happen. But it's accelerating so far, so quick, and it's not racist to say that. The country can't lose its culture. So then tell me, that's a great point.

We're going to get to the culture part, but if you have, you're trying to unite the kingdom, great, Nigel Farage, you guys don't seem to have a relationship together. The division's not the same. Then who is the candidate you're going to get behind to be able to do something? Is it going to be you?

Is it going to be somebody? I mean, there's got to be some. someone that they're going to be voting to have that change happen. Who is that person? There's a new party now that's come out called Advance UK. It's led by a gentleman called Ben Abeeb. He's a brilliant array. But he also spoke up for me when I was in prison.

And many of the people who were kicked out of advance for mentioning my name or removed from the party for refusing to back down on rape gangs and Islam, they're now joining Advance UK. So Devance UK is the fastest grandpa. political party in British history. It's up to over 30,000 followers now. So. I'm looking at this guy here, Ben-A-Beb.

And he is from Pakistan. His father is Pakistani, Punjabi, from a Muslim family. And his mother is English and was born in Islewood. So doesn't this contradict what you're trying to push for uniting the kingdom? No, it doesn't, no, because we're happy to, he's an ex-Muslim, Benabib. So he understands what we talk about. He's a Christian? And also, yeah.

So what we wanted, what we wanted, well, what he wanted. When he set that up, I don't know if you know, Rupert Lowe, so Rupert Lowe was a reform MP, still is an MP, a member of parliament. Rupert has been the strongest out-spoken parliamentary candidate there is, yeah? And he was kicked out of reform for refusing to back down on the Pakistani bank gangs. And Nigel Fragge actually censors his speeches, said, stop mentioning that, stop mentioning that. Now, mass deportation has now become mainstream, but Nigel told him he can't say it. This was just 12 months ago or 18 months ago.

So he was then removed from reform. So the original discussions with Ben Habib, when Ben Habib set this party up, and then it was to be launched, was that Rupert Lowe would be the leader. So currently, Ben Habe is a reluctant leader because he didn't want to lead it. The plan was for Rupert Lowe to lead it, but then Rupert pulled out. So that's where the party was out. They've launched anyway, and our movement needs a political home. It needs a home that's not going to – it needs a home and a party

that's not going to kick them out for telling the truth, because that's why we're in this mess. So I see Advanced UK growing massively by the next section. Okay, so I'm really trying to find out why Ben Habib would be the candidate. But, okay, let's stay with that. Let's stay with that because you need somebody to get behind. Charlie Kirk, when the events happened with Charlie Kirk, what was your reaction?

When you saw Charlie Kirk getting assassinated, was the first thing you thought about um if i'm honest i was sat with tyler olivia you know tyler olivia the american youtube i was i was sat with him and i was at my mom's house and i looked down on my phone and saw charlie kirk's been shot and if i'm honest my own selfishness was a selfishness i were worried about my children um because i knew my children are about to see this and when my children see this. I know they're going to get scared. Because when I was in jail, there's a gentleman called Sawa Mamika, who was a friend of mine, he was a friend of mine. He was in Sweden. And when I was in prison this time, I set up a website called Save Sawa, and I travelled to meet him in Sweden just

just 18 months ago, two years ago, to tell his story, because I could see him getting assassinated. And when I was in prison, he was assassinated on a live stream for his criticism of Islam. So when that happened in prison I know my children because I spoke to my ex-wife, she said that my son hadn't stopped crying and he just hasn't stopped crying because he was so scared because he sees me as that same

target. So when this happened with Charlie, I sat there because I was doing a podcast and I saw it pop up on my phone and then I saw my daughter, my son I have a daughter so I saw the messages coming in and then I was obviously I know how my, it's going to affect me

but it affects them and I know Charlie Kirk had children, and they were watching, and his wife was there. But a target, a target was put on Charlie Kirk, just as a target's been put on me. Now, the problem is, it's put on, let's not say it's by the left. It is the left in America. My target's put on me, but also put in by any establishment figures. For example, there's a woman called Camilla Tomlinley. And when I was in prison this time, she's a right-wing commentator, works for right-wing media. She said I was white supremacist on national TV. Now, if you take what she said, and if you take what she said, she said, I was a white supremacist, which I'm not. There's no evidence. There's no truth for that.

When she got interviewed recently and asked about that, she said, well, he believes that Christian culture should be dominant and more superior than Islamic. So what that makes me a white supremacist, does it love? It makes me a sensible, but that's what she said. So she said I was a white supremacist. then there was another one called Julie Hartley Brewer who said I'm an extreme racist there's no evidence some of these things and they'd never back them up but if for example

I was at St. Pangas train station where a gentleman come up and tried to attack me just a month ago and it was mashed of news because there was a little video of him asleep on the floor and then there was all the media painting a picture that I'd gone on the run and finally attack someone

obviously I had to do a police interview when I got back but I was the victim I defended myself but people like that who attack me they actually think they're making the world a better place and the man who's just executed Charlie Kirk

probably believes he is like the next hitter but they believe these things because they've been indoctrinated and the media have weaponised words against them and put a time of them so I have people who come up to me Patrick who hate me

and I've had so many videos like this over the years when I actually question them and stand there and talk to them They don't even know why they hate me. They think I'm this racist and I'm this Nazi. But that's because the media's done a real good job to make me toxic, to attempt to have me toxic. So that, no one actually listens to what I'm saying.

Now, Jordan Peterson, I have to thank him. Jordan Peterson really bought me and his wife, brought me in from the dark. I was censored. I was deplatformed. I was invisible. Until I got my ex-counter back. And when I got my ex-count back,

Jordan Peterson sat me down and done a podcast, which was a risk for him. because at the time anyone who talks to me come under attack comes under attack and they have done for years and well we know this

you just had it from the times for you're my neck tap but that these there's targeting they've been successful with to target anyone who could bring any credibility towards my message

then they just hope because of all the lip the smears and the labels people don't actually listen to what you're saying and they don't well they do now they're starting to yeah it's interesting

you're saying this because the Times reached out They wrote an article about you on Menect. And Rob, I don't know if you have the article or not. They reached out to us, they say, do you support the fact that Tommy Robinson, they sent a bunch of different questions? And they were able to get Facebook and Instagram

to prevent Menect from advertising on Facebook and Instagram for a full year. Well, we had to get legal involved asking us, why would you allow Tommy Robinson to be on Menect? We're like, what do you mean? Why can't somebody ask him a question? You know he charges $28 a minute. That's his decision.

If he thinks that's what he's worth and people are paying for it, you go put $50 if people want to pay for you. Nobody has a problem. You know, we got Tony Robbins is on the neck and he charges a lot more than that. You got athletes that are under, business owners that are in there,

actors that are in there. They get to pick and choose whatever they want to choose, whatever they want to charge. But it was interesting when they attacked us with this just because some people want to ask you question on the act. Well, Patrick, you see what they've done to you. if it wasn't yourself and your belief probably in free speech, they'd have been successful with any other company.

They'd have been successful. I'd have been kicked off. I'd have been silence. And that has successfully worked for them. So as I said, you have the state, and then you have the weapon of the state, which is the media. The media want me silence.

So the state don't do it. They get the media to continually attack the companies that ever give us a platform. Or say, for example, I don't know, I don't know if you're aware of what happened. For 48 hours before this event in London, Westminster Council contacted the company which we use to host the event

so Westminster Council contacted them and revoked our licenses to set up our speaker systems so there could be no speaker systems that's 48 hours before the event now and they told the owner of the company we will personally prosecute you if you set up those speakers

that's what they told so we had an emergency meeting with the police and we're sitting with the police I've got the full video of this, which I'm going to release. Sat down on the police said, they're trying to provoke us into violence. If we don't have a way of talking to our crowds and a million people turn up,

there's going to be anarchy. And the police are like, we don't want this. So there's been loggerheads. It's been a big internal thing with the police because the council were then asking the police to enforce the license. The police have then sat down on us and said, we're not enforcing it. So we will not enforce and prevent you sticking up your speakers.

and it was just the council attempting, which is the government, attempting to provoke chaos on the streets of our capital sea. That's not their job. Their job is to uphold democracy. We had the licenses. We applied for everyone right. We jumped through every hoop possible.

And still, this is what they're doing. And we've faced this for years. Joe, I don't, I can't host an event in a building in the UK. And I just know I can't, yeah? So I sold a thousand tickets in a week for a sit-down event. $50 a ticket in Manchester, the council and the police, this is going back years, they went in to the venue and told them we will take your alcohol licence if you host this event. So that's sort of like what happens. And it's been a tried and tested method for the

media. It works. As I said, they've gone beyond you and they've managed to get meta to make sure you can't go on there for four years. They've done this to me from every social media. As I said, I'm still banned. You can't even mention my name. on now. Yeah, I mean, I see that. It's wild. By the way, anybody that's watching this, if you want to support Tommy just to have free speech and you want to ask him a question or have a call with them, we'll put the link below in the QR code to support the cost. But just last week, I'm watching this story. What can you tell me about this, Shabana Mahmoud, Britain's new home secretary who grew up in Birmingham? What do you know with her and what are some things to expect in a future

with her in charge? Well, she's an Islamist. Simple else. She's an Islamist. We can take what she says. The first thing to come to her, the most important thing, it isn't Britain, it's not democracy, it's Islam. We need to understand what that means. We need to understand what that means. She signed off on my solitary confinement every 42 days. So with solitary confinement, there's a, it's called the Mandelable,

you're only allowed to be held for 14 days, where the prison only have the ability. They can hold you for 14 days, that's meant to be the limit, but the maximum is 42 days. After 42 days, it has to go to the government because you're not allowed to, and then the government have to sign off. Now, it Shabina Mahmood, because when I was in prison, she was a justice secretary who signed off holding me in solitary confinement against the advice of psychologists and medical teams and everyone, knowing full well the damage that that does to someone. she continued it. That should have been in the mood. She is, we meant us believe that she's going to stop the bonus. She's going to stop the massive flood of Muslim immigration into our country. It's insane. Again, every decision here star makes, David Lammy. Well, David Lammy is permanent. It's insane, really. So, again, it just helps, I think, to wake people up. Unfortunately, all of these things have had to happen.

My imprisonment, Lucy Connolly's imprisonment, a mother for 31 months for a tweet. Peter Lynch who was a granddad who was these are the riots after Southport they say riots he just held a placard and he got two years in jail

so all of these things are what's resulted in the millions you've seen in London this Saturday yeah I mean it's all everything's played as part from Elon Peter's in an interview to Elon Musk

by an X and lots of bad things that happened but you needed the situation like I think America you needed Joe Biden America needed Joe Biden for those four years years because people needed to see because when they can see it, you know, they need to see

how bad it can be. And that's what we're currently going through. We need it to care start in power. You need to get a position where a government can come in with a mandate. Now, Nigel Farge, as I said, Donald Trump made his mandate clear. He clearly said what he's going to do when he get in so he can get in power and do it.

Nigel Farge is, and people are making an excuse saying, well, he's just playing the political game until he gets in power, then he'll do all these things. It's like, no, he's not going to. He's definitely not going to. So, Yeah, when you're looking at her, Shabana Mahmoud, she said in interviews, my faith is the center point of my life and it drives me in the way that I live my life and I see my life.

And she said her Muslim faith is the core of who she is, who I am. And she's the first Muslim woman, Lord Chancellor, and the first female Muslim member of the parliament. So there's a lot of progress happening there with them wanting to spread. and different people like we're getting elected. So your concern with how things are growing in UK. From the last time you and I spoke to today, have things gotten better? We spoke a few months ago.

Since two or three months ago, when you and I spoke in Bahamas to today, have things improved, has it gotten worse? Is it the same? What's the conditions look like in the last two or three months? It gets worse and worse and worse every week. The borders are still open, the mass immigration is still coming in, sexual assaults.

Since we spoke, there's been, there was 12 days in a row where there was sexual assaults by migrants against British women. 12 days, there was a case every day. Young girls been sexually assaulted by migrants in hotels, a young 12-year-old getting raped by two Afghans who's staying in a hotel. It just continued. It's just continued. And it's not going to stop, Patrick.

It's not going to get better. It's going to get worse and worse and worse. Because the borders are still open. They're still flooding them in. They said they're going to smash the gang, smash the gangs. They've done nothing. It's all orchestrated. They are continuing to flood this country.

And I think that what Saturday was, was the British public coming together in their millions and say, we've had enough of it. And they need to listen. Saturday was a peaceful demonstration. We wanted a peaceful demonstration. If they continue, there's a dangerous part of the government going. They're that detached from the British public. All of them are. You know, even the Labour Party.

the Labour Party meant that's the party that was meant represent us the working class 90% of their members of Parliament were privately educated I'm sorry they know nothing about the working class they've never lived it, they've never lived where we

live, that we are the majority in this country and it's us who are affected by their mass controlled immigration, what it used to be. Now it's everywhere, problems everywhere. People who didn't see the problem now see it. But again, whilst it's devastating, whilst it's bad, Unfortunately, this all has had to happen to get the public to a position where they are awake.

And Britain's awake now. As I said, I've been in this activism trying to wake this country up for 15 years. I've been asking, where are the men of England? Where the hell are the men of England? How are we allowing this to happen? And the country, what I saw on Saturday was a proud nation and proud people. And if people had that pride, we wouldn't allow any of this to happen. We allowed it to happen because we lost our pride, we lost our identity, we lost our culture, we lost our belief.

We lost it. And a void was created. And then into that void become every other ideology wants to bring the destruction of this nation, whether it be Marxism, whether it be BLM, any organisational ideas were promoted by our politicians. Islam. It's filled a void.

It's filled a void after we lost identity. And do you know what? Joe, for years, I used to hold, when I sat up the industry, we'd hold a demonstration. And the church leaders would be on the other demonstration protesting against us with the Muslims. So the church leader, who's got no one in his church, by the way, has no people there, really, empty churches.

They were siding with them. The church lost their identity. The church failed Christianity. The church becomes so weak in this country and embarrassing, flying LGBT flags from their church. They're going back on all of their values, whilst Islam don't budge. Not now. There is a Christian revival happening right now in Great Britain. How did the religion of Islam grow so much in UK?

By the way, you know, what do you know about Prince Charles and his relationship with Muslims? Because he took an interest and he wanted to study them and he's been very respectful about it. But there was a high level of interest into him. What is his relationship with Muslims? He loves it. He loves his love. Why is that? Who knows?

Who knows, mate? Maybe he isn't Muslim. Who knows? He comes out and makes comments like, they're great respect for Sharia. Sharia would subjugate every single one of us, Charles. But to be honest, he's not my king.

I think most people feel that way. And he's not just on Islam. On the whole world economic forum, the whole global climate change, just everything he's been part of and supported. Everything. And he's meant to be non-political. The Queen was non-political.

Didn't make any of these comments. Charles told opposite. So, and I think it should have skipped Charles and went straight to Prince William and Cape. because the support for the monarchy is probably the lowest ever, I'm guessing. People have had enough. And he is meant to be our king. And his people, which is us, our daughters are being raped from one in this country to the other.

And they're continually being put in danger. And he said nothing. He speaks up for the great contributions Muslims have done. Like, if there was no Islam in the UK, we wouldn't even be having these discussions on immigration. Because immigration hasn't caused the problem. It's Islamic immigration that's destroying this nation. brought to by Tron Aries. For the first time the captivating world of Tron

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Get tickets now. Yeah, I'm looking at this with the comments he made, Rob. There is multiple comments he's made. Views on Sharia law. He made it back in the days as well as some of the ones that's been recent, if I'm not mistaken. But he's constantly seems to be supporting it. And by the way, if he was one, let's just say he is Muslim. Of course, now it would make sense that these types of things are happening.

you know it would show that there is support for no one's fighting back but there is no documentation that he is a Muslim himself there's just a lot of stories written about it he was also what was he given he was handed a million pound cash that to justify Google that story

from Qatar I believe but he he was given a million pound cash like a bag of cash and yeah it's hard to know but he is part of the same elite yet, which has the destruction of every one of our countries, including his own. They are flooding this country. No one can look at Great Britain and say, it's going in the right direction.

No one. Not everyone from around the world is now laughing at it. They're laughing at. Where is that? Yeah, it says right here it was alleged that between 2011 and 2015, Prince Charles is reported to have accepted 3 million pounds, 2.6 million in cash, from Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jabar al-Tani, a former Prime Minister of Qatar. the cash was allegedly given a physical form suitcase a hold all

what is that in phantom mason carry you back these payments were then deposited into the prince of wales charitable fund uh the office is denying any wrongdoing what's that sound like a big bag of cash sounds legit isn't it yeah that's just the one that we know about well because guitar guitar is the problem yeah car is the big problem now Qatar is funded nearly a billion pounds in islam islamization of europe every French ghetto guitar are behind

including separating and segregating and polluting the minds of those Muslim communities. Guitar are behind the Muslim Brotherhood. Guitar are in bed with Oolam. Qatar are embedded Hamas. And whilst they do this, they're buying their way for our country. They own more in our capital city than Prince Charles. So

when he is taking, how many years ago was that? So we know what the relationship is. He's laundering money from Qatar. He's being hand in money from guitar. What do guitar get for that? It's not for nothing, is it? You know, give someone three million money cash for nothing. That's just a minor little, probably a little biscuit of the corruption that's going on. But what do they get? They bought, they have bought our country. They've bought the ports in our country. They've bought the shopping centers in our capital sea. They've bought the Harad. Harrod said, they've bought everything. So, and they've

bought our politicians. You can see how. They've bought them. But the public are not willing to be bought. Do you know, mad story? There was a conservative MP called Af Salamin. Look this story up, yeah? Af Salamin, put Af Salam in Tommy Robinson. Now, this conservative MP approached me during my days in the English Defence League. He was, he, and he sat down, he contacted me and I went to see him. He said, I want to sit down and talk to him. And he offered me money. He said, Tommy, you will never worry about money again. He said, what do you want? He said, I'd like you to set up a demonstration in the area that he was, his area, which was Dudley. and then let it all blow up,

let everyone get, like, hype for this big demonstration. Then I'll step in, because he was a captain in the British Army for 10 years, so he spent a decade as a captain. He taught as Sandhurst. He taught Prince William and Prince Harry, yeah? That's Sandhurst. He spoke the Queen's English better than the Queen, yeah, and he was a Muslim.

So he's perfect for what they wanted, as in a perfect face of a Muslim, who they can push forward and say, this is a perfect Muslim. So he approached me, my head started thinking, And this is before I was doing journalism. This is when I was just a street activist. So I said, okay, let me go away and think about that and sit up another meeting. So I went away, and then I set up another meeting with him, and I wore a wire and a camera.

And I strapped in. And when I sat down, he bought two other Muslims with him. And they were gangsters, yeah? So that he sat down with these two Muslims. And I recorded it all. And I said, lads. And I said, what are you doing here? He goes, oh, we're fun.

We're just in. We want him in. I said, but you don't strike me as conservatives. they said, no, we're Labor. I said, so if you're Labor, why are you supporting him getting in if he's conservative? They said, we just want our man in.

So, okay, so from that, I recorded the whole thing, and he tells me, Tommy, when there's a room of 200 people and David Cameron comes in, that was our then Prime Minister, he walks past everyone else and makes a B-line straight for me.

I've already been offered my seat on the cabinet, what cabinet seat I want and I don't have the view of just getting to be an MP Tommy or in the cabinet I'm going on the way to the top you are going to have an unshakable ally after this.

What your is this? What your is this? Google it, he'll come up. Af Salam in. 14, 15, 2015. Got it. I'm tracking. So, so

sorry, I've been ill man. 2015. So he sits down. He tells me all this. I get it all on camera. And then I go away, and a week before the election, I walk into the Daily Mail, because I wasn't a journalist at this point, yeah. I was just a street activist, so I walked into the Daily Mount, and I said, right,

there's a week before the election, I said, here is your next Tory minister, cabinet minister, and he's offering me money, and he's offering me friendship and partnership, if I can fake a demonstration. And he's doing it with these people. So when you read that story, you wouldn't read that story and know it was me that gave them that story, yeah, because I had to sign an NDA, and then they hammered me in the story, but I didn't care because I should have got, I should have got recognition for this, yeah, because I prevented. So when this come out, then the mail, and do you know what he said in

this? He said, Qatar, he has already secured funding from guitar to end all the homelessness. This is in his area. So he said he had a full eight year plan in his area, that then in eight years that when you look at his track record, he would have sold homelessness. He had, he had, millions and millions coming in an investment from guitar, all set up. So he had everything planned for his next four to eight years where he would regenerate the entire community of his area. So it just looks great for him by the time he gets a point where he wants to go to the top. Then they're doing an investigation.

Once I out this, the media then start looking into him. They find leaflets that he'd made about three, four years before he joined the military, talking about him supporting the Majardine, taking over towns and cities in the UK to take over and have an Islamic caliphate in the UK. So basically he went undercover as a journalist, spent 10 years

went to Sandhurst then was a captain for 10 years in the British Army there was about at this point to be a cabinet minister for our government until I out with him. And when he rang me, so when I was in the Daily Mail and then get a phone call for him and this is the problem. I get a phone call and he says

Tommy. I said, yeah, he goes, I've just had the Daily Mail on the phone. I said, yeah. He said, what's going on? I said, some things ate for sale after sale. You cheeky, you cheeky, bastard. So the problem is, most politicians are for sale, yeah? We've just seen Ninn.

What do you think that bag of three million pound cash is about? People, even our, even our royals are for sale looking at that. It's not a lot of money, though. Three million pounds is not a lot of money to give up a country that was once the, once UK, it was Great Britain, the Great Britain, right? Is it worth only three million pounds? That's not a lot of money. Only three million pounds.

Qatar spent a billion. Qatar spent a billion to do this. Qatar has funded a lot. So Qatar spent a billion. Now, what they used to do is you used to be able to get people to convert. They'd spend street dower stores, all these charities. Like my hometown has a shop in our town center called Discover Islam, funded to charity. And its purpose and its job is to convert the Luton population to Islam.

go out and reach the non-Muslims and bring them in this is all mainly comes back from guitar on places like this yeah now they used to do that now they just get the influences and convert like sneaker like take people who the people convert that that's then powerful so that then is worth hundreds of millions of them to pay because they get more more people to convert but with prince charles or with the country that three million pound is one that they've had to declare who knows what's else going on but i know that the money that they're put into the country, guitar, it's huge. And the government bend over for them,

then over the for them whilst allowing them to, because they need them. Like now, France, I'm not France doing the guitar, but they need their money. So they need their money, so they sort of turn up blind eye to the Islamization of our country and allow them to, allow them to back it as well as Muslim Brotherhood.

How are the Muslim Brotherhood not banned? How is this terrorist organisation not banned in our country? The danger of it. How? Even his but to hear. His but to hear are now banned. But why weren't they banned for the last two decades? When they're banned in United Arab Emirates and many Muslim countries, but in our country, they were allowed to just foster. Every single Islamic society in the country in our universities was his butt here for the last two decades. Now, that's a terrorist group. And you've allowed them to sell Islamic society's basis in every university. And you wonder why when you see the now level of anti-Semitism and the hatred of Jews. coming out of our universities. And it's like, it's not hard. You've literally had a camp whose purpose it is to do that,

to have bases in every bloody university across the West, including the United States of America. It's mental. It's just mental when you look at it. And many Muslim countries and Muslim nations know how to deal with these groups. So they ban them, and they come down on them look a ton of bricks. We don't ban them. We come down on anyone who talks against them like a ton of bricks.

Yeah. You know, when you're saying Qatar, of course, the World Cup, when they were allegedly paying bribes for the World Cup to get there. And you've seen different numbers from 10, $25 million to $880 million. And then obviously they did what they did. And people went to the World Cup saying, what was this all about? This didn't even make it. Why would you do the World Cup in Qatar?

So they are famous for allegedly putting money into things. But you said something about the rallies in going up and getting some finding Jews. Okay, so your rally takes place. I'm trying to think what how bold you guys are being there's two rallies this is Mohammed hijab okay which I don't know

have you guys ever met each other or no no Mohammed sent me recently he thinks he's clever so this was to intimidate me so he sent legal letters to my children's home that's what he did now he knows I don't live where my children do so he sent legal letters

but that was that was to let me know because I was talking about him that's to let me know I believe for him to threaten me for where my children so that's what he done I sent the letters back within, because he's

I do my homework on everyone so I sent my letters back to his personal address the next day I just returned straight to him said die don't play with fire you mug

so he is an Islamist he's a radical he supports and I come out and said he's a caveman and now recently again he said his Muslim law firm have sent me

all these legal letters now again saying they're going to sue me but I said the same like I've already been sued, I've been bankrupt. I said he's a caveman who supports paedophilia, or apologises this for paedophilia. He's a paedophore apologist. That's why he said he sued before recently. But Mohammed Hijab, the problem is, see, not even YouTube.

Mohammed Jujab, we were censored, depleted from everywhere, for talking out against these groups. Mahmah hijab supports these groups, justifies it, and he's got a monetised channel so he gets paid to do it. The unfair treatment against people speaking out compared to the radicals, they were left alone. But, yeah, Mohammed Hijam is dangerous. Yeah, so this is him, Rob, if you want to, because I want to show both of them. This is him, which the direction that's going,

it's looking like it's going to be pretty nasty in UK for a minute. So, Rob, can you tell me what this is about? This is when? I'm not sure of the exact date. I know this was in the past year or so. This is Muhammad Hujaab running through the streets of London looking for Jewish people. Okay, played a clip?

Played a clip round? It was terrified. The boys had to be rescued by the police as bottles and eggs rained down on them. Muhammad Hijab then threatened a police officer that he'd kill the boy's dog if he saw it again. However, when those Zionists came in with their dogs, that wasn't bad.

That was an act of provocation. So what we're saying now, and I'm making it very clear so everyone understands, if those dogs come close to us again, we will see it as an act of aggression, and we will kill those dogs, we'll put them down. Hijab and Dawa then led the crowd to Speakers' Corner, and as the mob marched through London streets, screaming, we'll find some Jews. We want their blood?

The police did nothing. Let that sink in. So this is what I want to know. If you can pause, so while this is happening, Tommy, what happens to them? this open game in London where you can do this and nothing's going to happen to you? Nothing happens. Do you know cars travel down? When you look at people being detained for hate speech, you've got to see this video.

Cars travel down from Manchester, so two and a half hour drive to drive through the Jewish area of London. To shout out the windows, we're going to rape your daughters. That's what they're done. Now, there's a video of it, so you hear them do it, that they didn't get prosecuted. Who's saying that? Who's saying we're going to rape your daughters? Who's using those lives? cars from Muslims come down from Manchester into the Jewish area of London to drive around the Jewish area of London to scream out the windows, we're going to rape all your doors. We're going to rape all your doors. Now, they don't get prosecuted for any of this. Yet anyone who says anything or remotely, even against the government, has been thrown in jail on our side. So again, these hate speech laws are brought in. They're not brought in to tackle hate speech. They're brought in to silence the indigenous population whilst their country has changed beyond recognition to make it so that no one can

speak about it because they're not there to stop. If they were there to stop, like we saw them calling for jihad on our capital city after October 7th, literally stand there saying calling for jihad, the group doing it with his butt to hear. When they did that, and they had a banner about Muslim armies rising. When they did that, the met police put out of the same room

saying that, oh, there's plenty of different meanings, there's different meanings of jihad. So you must think we're stupid, but they continually allow this. So Mohammed Hijab has he ever been arrested. There's another video of him where he travelled up to Leicester, where mobs and Muslims went hunting Hindus, just last year in Leicester. And there's a video of him there where he's absolutely attacking Hinduism

and attacking Hindu gods. If anyone done anything similar. So they just don't get prosecuted. They don't. And everyone saw it. So again, another important role to get the country to where it's been this last weekend, unfortunately was October 7th. October 7th and the reaction to that, the hatred across the West in all our capital cities,

But in London, the ability for Hamas supports to take over our capital city week in, week out, and not faces arrest. And the public are watching them committing crimes, seeing their crimes committed with their own lives. And the only people facing arrest are the people there talking out against Hamas. So people watch all this, this two-tier policing. Two-tier policing become just a part of our vocabulary. So I want to play this other clip, Rob, when you guys are doing your protesting, this video is that goes viral as well. Can you have the video, not this one, Rob. It's the other one that they're protesting on the streets.

The one that Humberto just sent you that you pulled up. You just had it up, Rob, on the screen. You literally just had it up a minute ago. Do you know which one I'm talking about or no? No, let me find it. So, okay, let me pull it up to see which one this is. So I'm going to put a thumbs up for you to find it. So this is the protests are happening on your end 24 hours ago.

Where I'm trying to go with this is, if this is, You know, they unite the kingdom, and they're screaming who the F is, Allah. These are the chance, right? If you want to play this clip, Rob, go ahead. Ontario, the wait is over. The gold standard of online casinos has arrived. Golden Nugget online casino is live. Bringing Vegas-style excitement and a world-class gaming experience right to your fingertips.

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So from a guy, from an outside looking in Tommy from a guy from the outside simply looking in these two stories here with what hijab is saying and what these folks are saying you're weeks if not months away

from chaos in the streets in waves in ways we may have not seen in a while are you not are you not sitting there thinking to yourself okay this thing's going to get very very nasty the next 30 60 90 days

I'm thinking that unless the government addresses this issue, it's going to get nasty. Unless the government, unless people see light at the end of the tunnel, unless they see a solution to the destruction of their nation, people are going to go to desperate measures. And we've been seeing this for a long time. Now, with regards to those quotes, all we ever hear is Alar Akbar and then usually a bomb got off, or someone gets stabbed, or someone get killed. Or it's used in a inflammatory attack sort of way where they're screaming it aggressively. over issues. Now I told a story this week, we paid respect to a gentleman called Boylanah. When we had the London Bridge Terrace attack in London, where three jihadis rammed a van into people, then they jumped down with knives and they went into Borough Market,

like a little food store area of London. And they went in the restaurant and started stabbing women in the neck and butchering them. And they murdered loads of people. Now as they'd done that, there was a Millwall football supporter there. A Millwall were famous. So we paid tribute to him at the event and someone's song a song. And the song was a song. And the song was a song. was, um, the song was, had them screaming out of Akbar. And Roy Milana said, fuck you, um, Millwall. And he started fighting with them. But he was stabbed lots of times.

Do you know what? Did he get recognition for that? No, he actually got arrested for making comments about Islam months later. So he was stabbed, butchered, all over his people, watched people be murdered. Seriously? And they arrested him, put him on a prevent course for his, for his wrong, wrong force on his lung. That's what they did. Where did this happen?

What city was it in? What was it sad? It was a London Bridge terrorist attack and his name was Roy Larner. So pull up, you have the pictures of him. He was in a hospital bed and he obviously didn't remember anything. But then all the other witnesses were like, as the terrorists were stabbing at one, one man run at them. And he shouted, he shouted, fuck you on Millwall.

Which is quite funny because Millwall Football Hooligans are very well known across the UK. Across the world, that's him. Yeah, he said, fuck you on Millwall. And he didn't get recognition. He's never had, I actually done a sit-down interview of Roy, a podcast with him, to understand what happened. And he went into a spiral after this of post-Mag stress disorder. He had no help. And then he faced prosecution and arrest from the police instead of help for having the wrong thoughts on Islam, which is, again.

But by the way, so, okay, so while this has taken place, the two of you, have you guys, have you guys, Have you and Hajab ever seen each other or ever talk to each other one-on-one? No, I never seen him. Never seen him. What would happen if you guys were in the same room talking to each other? Ali Dawa, who's his friend. Ali Dawa done a campaign

where he was going, looking for my family home. And he done a video, and it was at the end of my mum's old house wrote. He done a video, said, all right, Tommy. And the part behind it is my mum's. My mum's, where my mum used to live. So, again, it's what they do. He's trying to intimidate me. He's at the wrong house.

And then he rings me up. And then he rings me up on live record. And I didn't know he's recording, but he said about coming to my house, I just said, it'll be the last thing you do. You'll meet your 72 virgins if you come to my house, mate. It will be the last thing you ever do. So because these are jihadists. That's who they are.

They pretend they're not. They try and play the silver tongue clever line, but they're dangerous and they're radicalising and they're recruiting and they act as like the moderate level to bring or sort of to bring the youngsters in

and that's what both of them do but they're like a little partnership Ali Dawa and Mahamahid Hidja but as I said if you look at what I've faced a full weight of everything against me they don't get anything

they don't get arrested they don't get criticised but they're both on camera saying that they'd let him from camera saying he'd let his daughter be married at nine years old but he's got a daughter now

personally I think for her own safety she should be protected from a father like that or for that Islamic belief. But the problem is we have lots of underage marriages going on in the UK. Google it. Google Islamic underage marriages across mosques across this country. They're marrying children. And our government, again, is too sensitive.

I don't understand that. I don't understand why any of that would, why the government's a child marriage driving in the UK due to legal loopholes, warn rights groups, go a little below, a letter to the PM. What year is this, Rob, written? It says 2021. May 2020.

I want to zoom in a little bit so I can read legal loopholes. Allow 16 in England and was married, parental consent, and exploited. Of course, said more than 20 organizations have signed a letter to the Prime Minister and assistant current forced marriage laws does not go far enough to protecting young people. Yeah, I mean, you know, this to me is common sense. The only way, Tommy, I see this being allowed and look the other way is the power has to be from all the way at the top. It's the only way I see it.

Even female genital mutilation. It's been a crime in this country since the ages. Carries a 14-year prison sentence. 55,000 for his girls. What did you say? Say that one more time? 55,000. What?

We lost you for a second. 55,000? 55,000 girls have had their genitals mutilated. So Muslim girls had their clitories cut off, which endangers them, which is dangerous, sometimes means they can have kids, lots of problems from it, mental health problems

for the rest of their lives from it but no one faced prosecution I think the first prosecution was last year a year before like a little token case but with these children they're allowing them to be mullaid and to be honest many of these problems like even the grooming gangs

if we were to look up the parents of these children just off those figures it would take up every prison cell in our country so some of the problems that big that they just allow them to happen cultural sensitivity We'll allow your little girls to be mutilated

because we don't want to be deemed as extremists or a government that's oppressive. So we allow a crime that carries a 14-year prison sentence. They literally just allow it. Google on the female general mutilation. It's insane what they've allowed in this country to happen. Because those little Muslim girls,

they're little British girls. They're born in Britain and they should be protected, but they haven't been because they allow it. And some of those marriages are happening to 12-year-old children. 12-year-old little girls are being buried in mosques across our country. Again, we're extremists for pointing out, and you say it has to come from the top. It's like, it's not a mistake.

Mass immigration is not a mistake. It's happening as an attack on every Western nation. Our countries are being flooded. Our cultures are being diluted. All the while they're doing this, as I said, the mass corporations are benefiting from this. And the European Union and groups like this don't want individual countries to have individual identity. how do you get them away from I'm German and I'm Spanish

you just flood them flood them with new cultures that then break down that resistance break down that family break down that community and that's what we've seen happen we don't really have strong communities

Tommy let me ask you Tommy let me ask you I'm sorry to interrupt you I'm still I'm still in shock I'm just looking at this right now the numbers the estimate of 137000 to 170000 given a broader view of how many might be living with FGM

is what they call it FGM which is called it FGM which is called female genital mutilation in UK. So President Trump, when he found out that the fentanyl was coming in from Venezuela and what was going on there, they went ahead and they got actively involved in the issues that was going to Venezuela. What role or interest does the president have in U.S.?

Hearing things like this that are happening, yet the president, is a Christian man, he's a white man, and he's seen what's happening in UK. He's got a lot of respect for the country, the history of it. Who is in his ear for him to find out the stuff that's going on there to be involved and maybe influence

the UK government to be a little bit more actively involved while these young girls and young kids are being affected by it? Well, he already has got involved on the free speech issue. If they can take our speech, which is their goal, we kind of

talk about these issues. So there's an Islamophobia bill that the Labor government are attempting to pass. If that passes, me giving you the facts and the statistics about the Islamic rape gangs would become illegal. I'd face criminal prosecution. So they're coming for our speech. I know that America just stopped them getting access to every one of our messages on these and spying on us. America did that. J.D. Vance did that. Your Republican Party have done more to fight for our free speech than anyone. There's no one here fighting. Because, again, not only do we not have free speech,

but they don't even believe in it. Just as I said now, with a reform party, they don't actually believe in free speech. So you have a country, and then the new generation coming through also, if you look at some of the, from their indoctrination in the education system, many of them don't believe in free speech.

If we don't have our speech, that we can't even highlight these issues. So I think Donald Trump and America are obviously keeping a close eye on the developments of Europe. Do you know when J.D. Vance went to Munich and he confronted them on free speech? He told them you don't have to worry about Russia. That's right. Your biggest enemy is within. And do you know what that was like for us to hear?

Do you know what? Because hope is contagious. And we have hope. I think you can see by this Saturday now, the public have hope. They also realize we're not alone in this fight. It's not, because we've always been alone. We've been under attack and we've been alone. But now we have the leader of a free world

who's seeing this, who speaks about this. The encouragement that gives us, Elon Musk, the encouragement is give the public to have such a huge character and successful man. Just speaking out. In America, you just speak facts and you speak truths, which people are going to too scared to speak here. Everyone's been scared, which I know that sounds mad,

and it's quite embarrassing, really. You look at what I'd say is a nation of fearless men or throughout history. the toughest men, who have always fought tyranny, who have always sacrificed, who have all been willing, always been willing to go to battle. And then a look at that, I think, we were paralysed through fear. We allowed a generation of our daughters to be raped. We actually allowed this.

I think when we get through this, people will look at this era and just in absolute shock of what was allowed to happen under the guise of diversity and under the power of political correctness. People really underestimate the power. It's that powerful, man. And the problem you're going to have in America is when the Islamic community becomes such a vote bank, and they become such powerful that they then swing states, that's when their power really comes. Because when you look at the UK and you look at the problems in the UK,

I think they still say it's only 6% of Islamic. It's like, Jesus Christ, man, what the hell do we think it's going to be like at 20%? It's no one to actually plan this. There's no one planning ahead in it. So it's no one looking. Because they're planning it, planning for 40,000 years. They're planning, and their goal is caliphate and world domination. That's what Islam wants.

That's it. It's in the book. So I was actually planning. Our politicians are planning every four years. Someone needs to be looking at 20 years, 30 years, four years. Oh, I believe that. I don't think they're slowing down. I've given my strong opinions on that when it comes down to the states.

and I don't think they'll stop until they get what they want or America changes certain policies. By the way, I'm curious, did you see the recent Banksy art that was put up, I think, just a week ago or something? Did you see that art piece? I think it is in UK, if I'm not mistaken. Back since the latest

mural has been scrubbed, a way a look at the artist, other works that were destroyed. What can you tell us about the Banksy art in UK? I think it's even more powerful when they scrubbed it. Like, the message. because it was about the corruption and the judges coming down on the people

which is because Banksie was doing our pro-refugee are like just maybe he's had his moment as well maybe he's had his moment to realise like a lot like a lot so what else changed this weekend was that there were celebrities there were celebrities

at our event and quite a few of them which is a you see when they when it becomes acceptable to speak then because I can tell you from my dire messages how many professional footballers how many boxers how many of them offer me their support all the time

but none of them publicly none of them publicly then this weekend there was more I don't want to name them or don't bring trouble to them but there were more people who stood up this weekend and I was surprised to see some faces there and encouraged totally encouraged because it's when you've had this in America

I just look at America and be envious because you had people with big platforms like yourself, like Charlie Kirk. You've had lots of them who are mainstream, who are credible, who have spoke openly and honestly about issues. In the UK, we've never had anyone.

We've never had anyone at that level. Anyone in media, anyone in government, we've never had anyone. So it's always been left to us, which when it's left to us, it was quite easy for them to pigeonhol us as a certain demographic. Young men, working class men.

So it wasn't that difficult for them to do that. They're struggling to do that now, especially with the amount of women. It's like a women's army is formed. I know if you've seen the group, the pink ladies. Now these protests, these organic protests, and sporadic protests that are springing up across the country are led by local women in many of the issues.

Women speaking out. So, yeah, but with regards to Banksia, the whole country knows now we don't have a fair judiciary. We have a corrupt judiciary. We have a corrupt judiciary, which attacks people based on their political ideas. and everyone can see it everyone can see the unfair

For him to do it But for him to do it Is a big statement by the way Rob, can you show the picture Of what happens After they try to scrub the mural I send you a picture of it If you want to just pull it up

Because the way it looks If you just go back and Rob Google it Just Google that word Right there Google the word and put it scrub You'll see it Banksy Muril UK scrubbed

Scrub Yeah there you go If you go to it images, that's what it looks like now. So interesting what it looks like now. You're right. It does actually look better than it did before. Tommy, what's your next event, Tommy, that you're going to be doing? Have you already decided what the day is?

Yeah, we're just talking on the date, but we want, unite the kingdom, unite the West. So because this is an issue, I think London, when you see the crowds this weekend, London has now been chosen as a battleground for these ideas, as in free speech against, mass, open border immigration. We'd love to work with partners across the world. This isn't just affecting us. I've always watched these movements and protests and just, and same with the populist parties in Europe before. Why are they not all together? All of us are affected

by this. Let's not look at what we disagree on. Let's look what we agree on. All of us that were there. So we united the kingdom successfully. They come from Wales, they come from Scotland, they come from Northern Ireland. They even come from the Republic of Biden. We're all there because we love our countries. Individually, we love our identity and we love our cultures. stronger together. That would have put the fear of God into the establishment. Irish nationalists travelled with loyalists. These two groups with the war in Northern Ireland have been awarded each us for our history. They've hated each other, Catholic and Protestants. They were travelling and come together to this event. So something big something. I'd love to have a vision of us redoing another

event like this, but we want world leaders there. We want the world's leaders to be addressing the populations who are the leaders on these issues. So we'd like Gert Wilders to be there. We'd like Maloney to be there. We'd like Victor Orban to be there. We'd like Donald Trump to be here. But we, and obviously the venue we had here, they blocked us having two venues.

So we couldn't, those millions are turned up. I think the only place the next one can be is in the High Park of London. This could be our generation's live aid. Because we make it into a concert, we make it celebrationary, we make it about identity, but we also drill home our, our message of what we want and how fed up we are. And it gives high, and you see the millions that come then?

You can guarantee you we're going to double that again next one. Well, I'm telling you. Tommy, I will say this to you. And I said this to your last time we spoke. I don't live in UK. I've been there.

I've been to London. Beautiful place. Great people. Great conversations. Rich history. And it's sad to see this taking place there. But in every generation, there comes somebody that's got courage to be able to go

lead a movement like this, that's fearless. And it doesn't seem like anything is going to back you down. Doesn't sound like you're going to go away anytime soon until you get what you want. And I pray for you to stay as close to God as possible. I applaud you for your courage. And God willing, good things will happen to your country that obviously you love and you're proud to represent.

Tommy, any final thoughts before we wrap up? just so Britain's awake I hope the world sees that now so many people have spoke for so long I heard people talk about when the British wake up and I was always thinking when is this country going to wake up after being smiling for the last however many

weeks I knew this was coming you listen to my interviews I told everyone it's going to be a million people it's going to be the biggest protest this country's ever seen it was downplayed it was downplayed I knew what was about to happen then because I can feel it and see it everywhere I'm going I know the public feeling

is there They now know that. They're going to be worried. I think I do need prayers because they're going to want rid of me 100%. And they're managed kids successfully put me in prison many times. I'm in court on October 13th. I could be back in jail for Christmas. But again, that's not going to work.

Surely they see that, though. It doesn't work. You're not going to shut us up. We're not going to be silenced. We're not bowing to submission. We won't submit to Islam. We won't submit to any of it. So, yeah, Britain's awake.

We need to make our plans. But we're grateful for every bit of support and everyone who's helped. As I said, you know, must put a thing out, we are the media now when they said 110,000. Their power has gone. I'm laughing at it. You know, Sky News were tweeted. Sky News put outside out there.

There are 12,000 people watching their news from our event with their propaganda. We have two million. So you don't have the power anymore. You can't just attack us anymore because we can just pick this up and correct you, which is what they don't want. They don't want that level playing field. So we need free speech and we also need citizen journalism. And by the way, guys, if you're watching this and you want to pick this up and support Tommy, go send him him a neck.

If you want to send him an encouraging message, ask him a question, do a call with him. Pick this up. The Times doesn't want you to do it. The Times doesn't believe in free speech. They don't want you to talk to him at all. But if you support what he's talking about, Amanda's level of courage, to go out there and simply have free speech, show some support by sending him a message there. Tommy, once again, appreciate you for your time. I know you just got up to do this interview to a different time where you're at.

We wish you all the best, Tommy. Thank you. Cheers. Take care. Bye-bye.