PBD Podcast - Larry Elder | PBD Podcast | Ep. 303

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Starting point is 00:00:37 Wow. I got blanks in different areas. That's what it is. OK, area code. Today's episode is 303. Apparently that's a Colorado area code. We got a special guest here for us. We got Larry Elder, the great Larry Elder here, who, you know, he's got a lot to say.

Starting point is 00:00:55 He's running for office. The black face of right supremacist. Yeah, I can't believe I can't believe Larry went there. I work hard with her for the title. Come on. There we go. Call him the black face of white supremacy. He is a political commentator, a conservative radio host. The Larry Elder Show based in California.

Starting point is 00:01:16 The show began local in K ABC in 1993, ran until 2008. And then his second show K ABC from 2010 to 2014 and I was with Salem radio. Tom, are you okay? Are you spasin out? What is Tom doing? I don't know, Pat. No, just a it's okay. What happened? No, I just had to give a signal to Rob. What's the signal? Tell us what the signal is. Those are the best. Now we have to pause to find what the signal's about. Go ahead. I think Larry's mic is way too low. We can hardly. That was just me. I was being. Oh, okay. I'm just trying to.

Starting point is 00:01:46 Tom, you're going to be okay. Tommy, I wish we could focus on Tom. Tom was spanned. I thought for a second. I was having a seizure. Yeah, but Tom's okay. Okay. So he authored a book.

Starting point is 00:01:54 I need to get a bed. It's what they told me to say as goes California, my mission to rescue the Golden State and save the nation. By the way, he still has on left. He's one of the only ones that stayed behind. I think he's going to be the last one to leave. Even California's left would want. That book comes out by the way in November. I also have a star in Hollywood Walker theme.

Starting point is 00:02:09 It's about to say that, which is pretty ridiculous. The guy, he's got a Hollywood star Walker theme. He's a foreigner right next to Mary Pickford. April 27, 2015, you got to know who Mary Pickford is. No, I'm saying on Vine. Is it on Vine? Is he the little guy on, no, I'm just sure it's Mary Pickford.

Starting point is 00:02:24 Did you like everything this was going to have? No. Okay, so what, why not? No, it's not on Vine. Is it on Vine? Is he the little guy on, on, on, no, treasure? Is it short, Mark Pickford? Yeah. Did you like everything this was going to have? No. Okay. So what, no, no, no, no, is that a short one? You know, I didn't even care about movies when I was a little kid. My brother, my older brother, Kirk loved, loved, loved movies. We go down to Hollywood and go down to the Hollywood Walk of Fame. He knew all the stars and I'm like bored. And fast forward, I get one. It's, it it's just it's just beyond beyond my comprehension it really is I think it's pretty sick for that to happen I think it's right there if you can focus in and they have a few radio guys who have them but it's a handful of great men scully Casey Kason and Larry Elder Arthur Godfrey doesn't does

Starting point is 00:03:00 how are stern have one or not no he does not not that I know of No, he didn't yeah, he wouldn't leave his hurry is COVID Learn what you get the star on the Hollywood walk of fame. Harvey what year did that happen? 2015 you think you would get it today and today's political climate. I have no idea I was surprised I got it then I've been nominated many times I never got it and I get a phone call and they're telling me that that I got it so that's great Well congratulations. That's a big deal And you're running right now for president. Right.

Starting point is 00:03:26 Ranford Governor of California, I got three and a half million votes, which is kind of interesting because I didn't make the first debate stage. And the whole point behind having criteria is to make sure that anybody that fogs up a mirror who thinks he wants to run president can't demand a spot on the debate stage. And I get that. But I ran for governor, got three and a half million votes. There were 46 people who wanted to replace scavengers. So my finish number one of the, of all the other replacement candidates, I got 49% of the

Starting point is 00:03:51 total vote on the replacement side, the next highest person, and there were independent Republicans and Democrats at ran. Next highest person got 9%. Highest Republican after me got 7%. And I got in with just eight weeks left, and eight weeks I raised $27 million. 150,000 individual donors, half of them came from outside of California.

Starting point is 00:04:11 California has 58 counties. On the replacement side, I carried 57 and 58. And by the way, I wasn't the state party person that they wanted. They wanted a guy named Kevin Faulkner, who's a two-term mayor of San Diego, the national party wanted Faulkner. Kevin McCarthy told all the Republicans in the house in California to stay out of the

Starting point is 00:04:28 race unless it was Kevin Faulkner. I carried San Diego County by 30 points. And I thought at some point, when it was obvious, I was the guy at the base wanted that the national and state party would either endorse me or give me some verbal support or give me some money, they did neither. So why do you think they didn't? Is it because you think? I wasn't the guy.

Starting point is 00:04:48 I wasn't an establishment. I was complete total grassroots. I mean, I never ran for anything. I didn't think I was gonna get into the race. The others had been running for months. I got in the last minute and I went to the top right away. I showed them. You said it so fast as if it's not a big deal.

Starting point is 00:05:03 27 million dollars, eight weeks. There are 50,,000, 50% not in the city, California. And by the way, there was a recall election in 2003 in California. That's how Gavin, that's how Arnold Schwarzenegger became governor. Since then, there are 5% more registered Democrats in California. There are 33% registered fewer registered, and 50% more registered independence, and independence in California vote Democrat. So with a battlefield far more daunting, I did just as well as Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Starting point is 00:05:31 He got 49%, I got 49%. Why do you think it wasn't even close and knew some wanted and it wasn't even like a Congress, it was 61, 63%, in the middle being 60%. What do you think? I got outspent about 10 to 1, and for a while, the recall part was in the middle being 60%. What do you think? I got outspent about 10 to 1. And for a while, the recall part was in the margin of error. And they were scared, bleepless.

Starting point is 00:05:51 In came Obama, in came Joe Biden, in came all the money, teachers' union, and they turned it around, and he ended up keeping his job pretty comfortably. However, he had to spend 50% more to retain his job than he did to get his job But they they turned into a national race. They said if you watch the commercials And I can count the ridges on my thumb now because of it I've taken one picture with Donald Trump both of us had our stuff our thumbs up. So every commercial Was a picture of elder and Trump side by side with thumbs up. And the line was always the same.

Starting point is 00:06:25 Stop the Republican takeover. Nobody said Gavin Newsom was doing a great job, the way he shut down the state, and the more severe way than anybody else, Gavin Newsom was doing a great job on education, doing a great job on budget, on crime, on homelessness, they never said that. They just said, stop the Republican takeover.

Starting point is 00:06:40 And Republicans are outnumbered in California, three to one. And that's all they had to do. There hasn't been a Republican who's won statewide in California in 20 years. Tom. I think there's something else too. It's very, very interesting is as you were rattling off those since because you know them by heart, but I think they're really, for people listening, there needs to be kind of a more of an understanding here. There were four individuals that were in the top four, including two Democrats to be the replacement candidate. Which you're talking about, the number two guy, Kevin Pafraeth

Starting point is 00:07:12 was a Democrat. He was a Gavin 9%. So there was people in California that wanted this dem to replace Gavin Newsom. And when you're talking about 3.5 million votes, hats off to you for that. But when it came for the recall, you got 4.9 million votes. It was 38% in favor of the recall, and you were the recall candidate. So, and the other thing I looked at, I want to know what you thought about it, you just talked about that they put you with Trump, and it was defeat Trumpism and all that. But they also kind of turned it into a monotopic election. It was all about COVID. This is a matter of life and death was actually a COVID ad that they spent more airtime on than any of the other ads even on the you and Trump. So they created this scare

Starting point is 00:07:52 Element is that how you read it part of it. They said that I was anti-vaccine Even though I've been double-vaxed you said you've been back. Yeah, but I but I by oppose mandates. I pose the The mass mandates. I pose a vaccine mandates. I pose a shutdown So that translated into elder is anti-vax CNN interviewed me for about a half hour and I told them that young people are not likely to get COVID. They're not likely to get really sick They're not likely to be hospitalized not likely to die, but that's not true according to the CDC blah blah blah Turns out of course I was right.

Starting point is 00:08:25 Nobody said I said there were nobody apologize. The other thing that happened in this one, as opposed to 2003, in 2003, the Democrat Lieutenant Governor ran on the replacement side as well. And that took a lot of the vote away from Great Davis, the then incumbent. So they did not want to repeat that same mistake.

Starting point is 00:08:45 There was some rumor that the two-term former mayor of LA, Antonio Vierro, a Democrat was going to run on the replacement side. And I heard that they made some sort of deal so he wouldn't do it. Had he been in that race, it would have been a different ball game. They paid his prior campaign, that's just one of the rumors.

Starting point is 00:09:01 That's what I heard. But by the way, do you? I wasn't going to repeat that. Thank you for doing that. Do you regret getting that? No, that's not talking. That's what I heard. But by the way, do you... I wasn't gonna repeat that. Thank you for doing that. Do you regret getting that? No, that's not... That's not... This doc research, so...

Starting point is 00:09:09 This doc is wrong. It's not learned. It's not learned. It's not learned. It's not learned. Don't sue me. Are you at this point, do you regret getting back? Or no, you're fine with the decision made.

Starting point is 00:09:17 If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't have done it. You wouldn't have. My doctor told me I am over 65 years old. I'm 71. I know look good. Black don't cry. The elder, the bury, the sweet of the juice. Who we went there?

Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah. Hell. I'm over 65. I have high blood pressure and I have a rare blood condition. And so because of these cold morbidities, as they're called, he strongly recommended that I get vaccinated. Looking back at it, I think that, and I did get COVID after getting vaccinated, I think I would have I get vaccinated. Looking back at it, I think that, and I did get COVID after getting vaccinated,

Starting point is 00:09:46 I think I would have been just fine. So you, so, okay, California. Why haven't you left yet? Why are you still in California? It's the word I'm from. My friends are there, my church is there, my memories are there. And frankly, if you are living California,

Starting point is 00:10:01 you bought a home, say in the 80s. You're doing very, very well. Your house is appreciated like crazy. I got a lot of equity in my homes. I'm living quite well. As long as I avoid the homeless people and the needles and I'm serious about that. Living a very nice place in Hollywood Hills,

Starting point is 00:10:17 I could go maybe two or three blocks and either side of the street or a bunch of vans full of people who should be living there. Yeah, Hollywood Hills. Shouldn't be living there. Yeah, Hollywood Hills. Shouldn't be living there. There's a real bad homeless problem in the area where I live. Antonio Rieguosa, by the way, after the recall was over said,

Starting point is 00:10:35 I've never seen LA look so dirty. I've never seen so much homelessness. He didn't say anything during the recall, but he said afterwards. It's pretty pathetic. And the Bay Area's even worse. What happened to it? I mean, for a guy that's been there your entire life.

Starting point is 00:10:49 I live there 24 years. Vinnie lived there, I don't know how many years. 15 years? Tom, you lived there how many years? 40. 40 years. So we're all California natives. He's a Florida guy.

Starting point is 00:10:57 He's actually an Addison guy. Addison, Texas guy. Born and raised in Addison, Texas. Miami, but I love for that. By way of Addison. Yeah. He's so strong. The evolution of this great state that every the California dream and right everybody, Mama's in

Starting point is 00:11:13 pop, everybody wanted to go to this place. What happened to it? Single party government, Democrats, Democrats control the assembly, the Senate, they have two-thirds majority. Republicans need not even show up for work. They pass one job killing bill left to another, one freedom sapping bill left to another. They're in bed with a T-shirt union, they're in bed with the environmentalists. And they just pass one law after another that's undermined the middle class. Very wealthy people can survive, very poor people can survive.

Starting point is 00:11:40 It's the middle class people who are leaving. And Larry. The average price of a home in California is 175% above the national average. Think about that. The number one reason that people cite for leaving is they cannot afford to buy a house. And they have no idea why. They just know they can't afford to buy one. That's why when people leave California, go to places like Colorado and Arizona, they

Starting point is 00:11:59 start changing those states because they still vote Democrat because they haven't connected the dots. They still vote Democrat when they leave the state. They haven't connected the dots. Huh, and they still vote Democrat when they leave these states? They haven't connected the dots. They don't know why. All they know is that things are not... I can't get the kind of lifestyle that I want. I can get a better lifestyle in this state, that state, that state, but they have no idea why. Yeah, they're just contributing to the cost of living.

Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah, or whatever. And how much is the average house in California compared to the national? I think the average price of home in California is about 800,000. Yep, 741. Look at that. I didn't even see that. I did it already. Nice.

Starting point is 00:12:32 Are you impressed? To back up what Larry's talking about, go take a look at the history of Colorado, Phoenix, and Austin. Excuse me, Denver, Phoenix, and Austin, it's exactly what he's talking about where they move in and they turn red to lavender and then blue. I figured it'd be the exact opposite. People leave in California being like, I can't take the restrictions. I can't take the taxes. I can't take the regulation. The homeless is everything just combined. It's like, I'm out of here. I'm going to go live my life.

Starting point is 00:12:58 I'm an independent thinker and move to a state where I can just do me. But you're basically saying, no, they're just going to. They're left-leaning policies, even in states that are lost. They have indoctrinated people in California to believe Republican to just bad people. Gotcha. And anything Republican is bad. I mean, I'm pro-life, therefore I'm anti-woman.

Starting point is 00:13:18 That's how they phrase it. I believe taxes are too high, therefore I'm for the rich. I mean, that's what they do. And they have indoctrinated a whole generation of people, I believe taxes are too high, therefore I'm for the rich. I mean, that's what they do. And they have indoctrinated a whole generation of people, young people in California to feel that way. Let me ask this question. Tom, this goes to you and to Larry.

Starting point is 00:13:34 So do you think, we have teachers protesting against the Sanctis here, and they're saying Florida, anti-Wolka, agenda is causing us to want to leave the state of Florida. And, you know, some people in Florida are like, great, go to California, right? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Republicans, are leaving blue states finding red states to go to. I think a little bit of both, but I think that surely the red states are the ones that are growing. You look at, there's a map that shows you where taxes are going and they're going to red states.

Starting point is 00:14:18 I think people feel the schools are better. There's less regulation, lower cost of living, greater economic opportunities. So I think both, both Republicans and Democrats are leaving for those reasons. I just think that Democrats have not figured out that there is a reason why these things are causing you to leave. I would agree with that. My independent research would say it's probably seven to three. Seven is the conservative. So Tom's a fact check guy when you say something that would have been misused with the media. But I'll tell you the very impressive. No, Seven is the conservative so Tom's a fact check guy when you say something that I'm a mystery copete as what we call it up

Starting point is 00:14:45 But I'm a very very impressive. No seriously. Oh, well, thank you very much my my wife got out of college calcite Northridge and she started teaching so she was at LA unified Which for other people is the largest school district in the United States and it's actually two car two large to self-manage and The teachers union there, very, very blue, but very, very upset. And these teachers have been leaving. And they've been going to Phoenix, and they've been going to Riverside, even,

Starting point is 00:15:11 and out to areas where they feel that they can get, that they can be a teacher with the better cost of living. And so my informal analysis of it, is I'm seeing eight to two or seven to three, to your question. I agree, it's a little bit of both. And Tom, I mentioned the Viergosa earlier, the former mayor of LA. When he was running the first time, his wife is a teacher at LA,

Starting point is 00:15:35 USD. And he was asked, why don't you have your own kids at LA, USD? I remember this. And the wall in front of his house, your big proponent of public schools, you oppose school choice. And he said, and I quote, I would never sacrifice my kid by putting my kid in an L.A. U.S.D. school. Wow. And he did. But I'm running from there of this fine city.

Starting point is 00:15:54 And he did not win because of that comment. Wow. Well, at least it was being honest. At least it's honest. Yeah. At least it's not telling the, by the way, it's so funny you're saying this. We're talking about California. I'm actually really curious.

Starting point is 00:16:04 And the reason why I'm asking this question is because which one is outwardly blue, but internally they feel safer in the red state, right? Because think about it, socialists feel safer in a capitalistic society, right? They don't want to leave this place. If you really feel safer being an socialist society, go to a socialist country, why stay in America?

Starting point is 00:16:22 So I think more red is willing to leave blue, and I don't think blue leaves red. I think blue feels safer in red, while red doesn't feel safer in blue, because they're not welcome. I think you're making it more complicated in the day. I think it's just a lot of hypocrisy. For example, there was a study some years ago

Starting point is 00:16:40 where government school teachers, that's a term I prefer instead of public school, government school teachers were asked, what school age kids were asked where you put your own kids. Nationwide 10% of us have our kids in private school, 6% of black families do. 49% of Philadelphia public school teachers with school aged kids had their own kids in private school. 39% Chicago public school teachers with school aged kids put their own kids in private school. The head of the Chicago teachers union recently said that school choice was racist. Her own kid is in private school. I have a question. Let me stay on. By the way,

Starting point is 00:17:11 the ranking hypocrisy stats came up just to you. Brand and I were doing this video to see during COVID, top 10 highest tax tax, tax dates and the bottom lowest tax dates. Okay. During COVID, the top 10 highest tax states lost 341 billion dollars of AGI, okay? Tax revenue, the top 10 lost 341, okay? Guess what the bottom 10 lowest tax states gained? 341 billion dollars. Did you understand what just happened right there?

Starting point is 00:17:43 It's a swap, it's a swap, it's like you move 341 billion dollars of money under understand what would just happen right there? It's a swap. It's a swap. It's like you move 341 billion dollars of money under management at Goldman to Morgan Stanley. That's exactly what happened. So COVID was a great case study. For us to see what works, what doesn't work, my concern right now with a state like California. Do you think a California, how quickly do you think

Starting point is 00:18:02 a California could flip? And if yes, what will be the reason for it to flip? If I knew the answer to that, you'd be talking to me from Sacramento. I don't know. I like in the average voter in California to a drug addict. You gotta hit rock bottom and start rethinking your votes. I've never been a favor of term limits.

Starting point is 00:18:20 I'm now in favor of term limits for voters. If you vote Democrat two or three times, you lose your right to vote. I'm just kidding vote I'm just kidding You know I I just thought that at some point even left wing voters in California would go You know what I got to go a different way, but they haven't when I was running a The wife of a retired Motown record mogul She's in her 80s. He's in the 80s was murdered

Starting point is 00:18:46 Old town record mogul, she's in her 80s, he's in the 80s, was murdered. He had armed security at his house, some guy who shouldn't have been on the street when the life-long criminals broke into the house, shot and killed her. A UCLA graduate student was working at a high-end furniture store in an area of LA called Hancock Park where Maxine Ward Wartis has her mansion. She was stabbed to death by another homeless guy. And I thought maybe at this point, maybe some people in the left might rethink their assumptions, but they haven't.

Starting point is 00:19:12 And Larry, what do you think it is from all those cities? Is it just the indoctrination is so strong? Like if you're living in Chicago, Baltimore, New York, San Francisco, and you're seeing everything, is it just like, listen, we're not gonna admit that with this shit, we're gonna stick with it because Democrats, and you're seeing everything. Is it just like, listen, we're not going to admit that we're just shit. We're going to stick with it because Democrats, they fall on the sword. They stay loyal to the partners. Like, no, we're good. I think it's that. It's indoctrination. It's that plus a belief Republican to just bad

Starting point is 00:19:36 people. We just can't, it's not that we disagree about about abortion, about taxes, about spending. We are bad people, fundamentally bad people. They've convinced people that one. Well, this goes back to something that we talk about all the time. And that's, you know, why do people vote? Do they vote for personality, or do they vote for policy? I would argue that it's overwhelmingly

Starting point is 00:19:57 about personality, right? So you could go the policy argument all you want, right? Taxes, regulation, but if you don't have a charismatic candidate on the left, on the right, running it, you're never gonna win. It's just not gonna happen. People vote on personality. I don't see it that way.

Starting point is 00:20:15 I think people vote mostly on what they perceive to be their best interest. Often they're wrong about that, but they vote on what they perceive to be in their best interest. I think we have to give to this claimer. There's never been a more charismatic candidate than Joe Biden. Oh my god.

Starting point is 00:20:30 I've commented on it. I've never heard a president. And did you see what, can you pull up the clip or what happened to him two days ago? Where even the lady is like, okay, we're done with the event. We got to wrap it up. Yeah, if you can play this, just a little awkward, just play this clip right here. If you could, this is a must see TV. Look at his eyes, his eyes can't even tell me Robbins dude got nothing on this man. This guy when he speaks, it crowds show up. Rob isn't that the one, but

Starting point is 00:20:58 Rob, that's the one. Just play that one. There's a few. That's when he was saying that his campaign staff fought. He follows the orders of his. Which was the one where the lady in the background says? This is or the okay. I got you. I got you. We talked about we talked about at the conference overall. We talked about stability. We talked about making sure that the third world, the excuse me, the Southern hemisphere had access to change it had access we wasn't confrontational at all thank you everybody this is a count press conference thanks everyone how this res mechful it is to interrupt the president yeah I don't think the nursing home director had a choice but I got laugh all you

Starting point is 00:21:41 want the student loan forgiveness thing with brilliant He got a bunch of young people voting in the midterms who otherwise wouldn't have voted. The climate change stuff that young people are fascinated by, it's on his side. It's again about policy and the hostility and hatred against Donald Trump. I've never seen anything quite like it. Until he has all that stuff going for him.

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Starting point is 00:22:41 and yet they're making more pickup trucks in Canada than they were in Detroit. So much had happened in Michigan. It was such, this is even before what's your name? Whitmer went kind of lost her mind during COVID. But you look at what the voter did and I really thought, is there a rock bottom moment finally coming to Michigan in Detroit voted pretty blue blue but not as blue as it had been and and that actually the state went to Trump.

Starting point is 00:23:11 And Wisconsin, the less so because the governor, Scott Walker had done a pretty good job there. But I thought I saw some glimpses there. Do you see glimpses out there where you say, wow, there's a little something, maybe something's turning, maybe somebody's rock bottom. I wish I could say that, but honestly, seven million illegal aliens are now in the country who weren't not here until Biden comes in. We've caught hundreds on the terror watch list.

Starting point is 00:23:34 Lord knows how many got away with it. Inflation hasn't been this high in 40 years. Interest rates now 7%, haven't been this high in years. People are paying five to $700 a month more for the same good than services they were paying three years ago. What does it take? Was it take? I thought it's the economy stupid. Isn't that what Bill Clinton said? The economy is stupid? What does it take? Who is better off now than they were three years ago? Raise your hand. Nobody is. Nobody is.

Starting point is 00:24:05 And still the polls show show the race between hyperdrugory between Trump and Biden within the margin of error. Yeah, honestly. Well, that's all it takes. What does it take? But here's the question, though, Larry, how much is attributed to Biden versus just this is the aftermath of COVID? Because this if COVID never happened, we wouldn't have this high of interest rates

Starting point is 00:24:25 in the flation wouldn't be going up. Trump would have been reelected. I agree. I fully agree. So I fully, every stat you just said is absolutely correct. Inflation, housing, but the vast majority of it is due to COVID, when you agree.

Starting point is 00:24:39 All I'm saying is the average voter in my opinion should be looking at Joe Biden and go WTF. I'm paying all of this. I'm paying 40% more for gasoline prices. There are seven million people in the country illegally. Lord knows how many of them are terrorists. That to me ought to be enough. It isn't. And I don't know what that is. I think it's, I think it's the hostility against Republicans in general and Donald Trump in particular. And how brilliant is the left at demonizing him so much that it's like, we don't care, we don't give a damn about all the problems that you just mentioned. At least it's not

Starting point is 00:25:17 that orange Hitler guy. And this and this two tiered system of justice ought to be upsetting everybody. Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the future? I'm cautiously pessimistic. How is that? I'm worried, quite worried. I mean, look at this two tiered system of justice. You've got Donald Trump. Let's just take the January 6 indictment.

Starting point is 00:25:37 He's being indicted because essentially his lawyers made the argument that the vice president has more than ceremonial duties on the first week following an election. The same argument Democrats make at made after 2000 when they tried to decertify Florida, same argument Democrats made after 2004 when they tried to decertify Ohio. There were 30 House Democrats plus Barbara Boxer, including Benny Thompson, Chair of the January 6th insurrection committee, all joining to decertify Ohio because they argued that the D-Bull voting machine had been tampered with. Where have we heard that before?

Starting point is 00:26:07 In 2016, they challenged more states and Donald Trump did after 2020. Nobody accused him of being election deniers, nobody prosecuted them, and their lawyers were not facing disbarm it. This is just madness. And it seems to me, where's the ACLU when you need them? Where's the left? And this Hunter Biden, Joe Biden stuff, Woodward Bernstein, I'm young enough to remember that in the 70s, they went nuts over Richard Nixon.

Starting point is 00:26:31 And Nixon didn't do it for greed. He was trying to cover up the break-and-of-wartigate because he had a bunch of his aides who got involved in that. And Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist. Right. My other thing is huge. And Woodward, it's still there. in that and Daniel Ellsberg psychiatrist right mine are things and huge and woodward woodward it's still there he's still at the Washington Post he's an executive there and Karl

Starting point is 00:26:49 Bernstein is still around where are these guys nobody seems to care I'm I'm blowing away where the country is right now I really have the country believes the other other half is evil you know you're absolutely right and young people when I say young people if you're in college right now you probably don't remember the 2000 election because that's 23 years ago. So if you're a 22 year old college student right now, you probably don't even remember 2000. Gore pushed that case to the US Supreme Court.

Starting point is 00:27:15 So you wanna talk about election denier. It took us, was it 12 or 13 weeks to actually determine the election and it had to get to the US Supreme Court and it wasn't bush pushing that. And Tom, talk about election tonight. Hillary referred to Donald Trump for the entirety of his presidency as illegitimate, her word not mine.

Starting point is 00:27:34 Said the election was stolen her word not mine. Jay Johnson is Obama's DHS secretary. Testified under oath that while the Russians tried, they failed to change a single vote tally in 2016. Two thirds of Democrats believe, according to UGF poll, that the Russians tried, they failed to change a single vote tally in 2016. Two thirds of Democrats believe, according to Yu-Gov-Pol, that the Russians quote, change vote tally to close vote to electoral Trump. Zero evidence to change any. A greater percentage of Democrats believe 2016 was stolen, and we feel that way by 2020.

Starting point is 00:27:56 Nobody calls them election deniers. Yeah. And it all... It's such a double stand. Yeah, and all Hillary in the DNC got was like $170,000 slap on the wrist for the whole Russian corruption dossier. Hillary and the DNC paid for the steel dossier. And the FEC find them because they characterize it as a legal expense. Zoro Trump characterized a stormy Daniel thing as a legal expense. He's faced in primo charges

Starting point is 00:28:17 by the by the Manhattan DA. It's outrageous. What is it? What are you think is going to end up happening? Trump nothing. Okay. So I think he's going to get I think he's going to probably going to get nominated. If he gets nominated, he'll get elected and he'll pardon himself. But wait a minute. You also said that Larry Elder on Trump, uh, you said this a few months ago. I'm not sure he's electable. You said he's nominatable, but he's not electable. So your positions change in in three months. I feel more strongly now that he can win because of the what they've done to him with the with all these things. So it's changed in three months. I just feel more strongly. Look, he was a great president. The economy was rocking and rolling. The borders have never been

Starting point is 00:28:58 more secure. We got all the judges that we wanted up there. Built the wall or oil and gas independent. He was a great president, and he'll hopefully put those policies back in the place when he comes back. Yeah, I feel more strongly now than I did before. How will he pivot to the center? You know, I think Nixon was famously said that, you know, you run to the right,

Starting point is 00:29:16 and then you pivot to the center, same way the Democrats run to the left. Right. So I fully agree that Trump is going to be the nominee, and I also, despite popular opinion, I think Sleepy Joe is also going to be the nominee. And I also, despite popular opinion, I think Sleepy Joe is also gonna be the guy. I think we're gonna see what happens during that debate. I think he will be the guy.

Starting point is 00:29:32 If he can fog up a mirror, he'll be the guy. And if he's not, it'll be commonly. So it's so went, oh God forbid. No, no, no, I mean, I don't know why people feel that somehow somebody else is gonna sneak in like that. Even Gavin Newsom just the other day said, I'm not gonna run in 2024, Kamala Harris is next in line.

Starting point is 00:29:49 And I've been saying that for months. He played Koi because, look, the strongest part of the Democratic base are black voters. And even more strong are black female voters. And they love Kamala Harris. And they feel that when we make fun of her cackel, it's both sexist and racist.

Starting point is 00:30:06 They feel that Joe Biden's given her thankless tasks like getting to the bottom of illegal immigration. They feel she's been mistreated. And if she is perceived as having been drop kick for a white dude like Gavin Newsom or Mayor Pete, black women won't vote Republican. They just won't vote. They're by guaranteeing whoever our nominee is

Starting point is 00:30:23 he or she will win. So they can't afford to do that. And Gavin knows some knows that. That's why he never, never announced. But let's stay on Trump, because I think Kamala is a non-factor. But that's my opinion. I know what you just said.

Starting point is 00:30:33 But how can she be a non-factor? If Joe Biden can't, if Joe Biden can get across a finish line, as soon as he gets across the finish line, he handles the baton to her. And she could run. I just don't think she's electable. But I want to stay on Trump if you don't mind. So when he's going to pivot to the center, because they're stuck with her, that's my problem. just don't think she's electable, but I want to stay on Trump if you don't mind. So when he's going to pivot to the center,

Starting point is 00:30:46 because they're stuck with her. That's my, I don't think you understand. You understand what he's saying. I understand completely that. Yeah, he's saying he's going to win, then he's going to give it to her so she can stay for eight years. And one more, that's what he's saying.

Starting point is 00:30:58 Well, that's not an annoying man. Like, it's going to be an election. One more goalie. No, but what he's saying is, one more going to win. This is then handed over. This is important about the gender and identity policy party, which is a Democratic party. They're de-yes, going very high.

Starting point is 00:31:12 When Clyburn got behind Joe Biden, after Bernie Sanders won the Nevada caucuses, for a few days, he was a front runner. They were scared of death. He's a self-described, a Democrat socialist, and they knew he couldn't win. Not so controllable. So James Clyburn gets off the sideline

Starting point is 00:31:29 on the eve of the South Carolina primary endorses Biden. They all fell in line. He extracted a promise from Biden that his first nominee would be a black female. His vice president, black female. For a time, it looked like Diane Feinstein might not finish out her term in California and Gavin Newsom publicly said, if she can't finish it out, I will nominate a black female.

Starting point is 00:31:48 They're all about black, this is the year of the black female. And they got a black female now. Next in line after Biden, if she's dropped kick for a white person, black women will be live fit. And they will not vote. They won't vote Republican. They just won't vote. Well, I think a lot of black people are going to, black women are going to be upset because I don't think

Starting point is 00:32:05 Hama is lactable, but how will Trump pivot to the center and actually win the election? Because you just hit the nail on the head. As old and decrepit as Joe Biden is, with all the lingering issues with Trump, which I think are a lot of the media and the Justice Department basically doing this, how will he pivot to the center and the Justice Department basically doing this.

Starting point is 00:32:26 How will he pivot to the center and win over independent voters or even moderate Democrats? I think what he's going to do is not run with a female. I'm not quite sure who it'll be, but Kim Reynolds, maybe of Iowa or Kristi Noll of South Dakota, but are maybe even Carrie Lake, but it's gonna be a female.

Starting point is 00:32:45 You think that's how he's gonna pivot to this? I can't think of anything else he can do. I mean, we all know what he's about. What can he say now? He can't reinvent himself. He is who he is, he is what he is. So I think what he can do though, is nominate a female. What about a strong black man, like Larry Elder

Starting point is 00:32:59 as the VP? He talked to me about that Larry. I've told people if my phone rings and Trump's on the other end, I won't let it go to voicemail. I think your phone's ringing right now, but but he's not gonna do that I that would not be the smart move. I can't bring California to him. Yeah I'm not in a swing state and he doesn't need to have another man He needs to have a female and unfortunately that's the way politics works and Larry not to go conspiracy theory because Adam loves when I

Starting point is 00:33:22 I'm a coincidence there's no one say, I'm not gonna go here. They're going right there. It's like when they say it's not about the money. It's about the money. Like when a cop says there's nothing to see here. There's definitely something to see. I signed it, we had a million dollar contract for 10 years, but it's not about the money.

Starting point is 00:33:36 Yeah, oh no. But Larry, because I mean, as you saw with the left, with 2016, with Hillary, from weaponizing the FBI, and everything is against Trump, Adam made a good point that he is obviously, it's obviously he's the frontrunner. Do you think the left has anything up their sleeves? I'm just saying in the sense that we keep getting warmed about. Pandemic tools coming from Fauci, from Biden, everybody keeps saying, hey, they're warning us,

Starting point is 00:34:00 they're testing out the new vaccine, this new variant to test. Do you think, because mind you, election year, Donald Trump is probably going down as one of the best statistic policy presidents ever, all of a sudden, in election year, a couple months before Larry, a virus comes out of a lab that we own, and they still have zero accountability, because it's still racist. It wasn't just that. Also, 51 former intelligence officials signed a letter saying that the 100 Biden laptop story had all the ear marks

Starting point is 00:34:28 of Russian disinformation, two and a half year collusion thing using COVID to change the rules. And Michigan was constant Pennsylvania. Yep. Who knows if they're gonna do? Exactly, but they're gonna do something. Something is happening to keep, because apparently the game plan of keeping Joe Biden

Starting point is 00:34:45 in the basement works. So here's my question for you. You don't sound optimistic. You said you're cautiously pessimistic, right? I'm not sure if the voices of any party to be cautiously pessimistic encourage that party to want a goal above and beyond. It's kind of like it's half time.

Starting point is 00:35:07 You're down three touchdowns and a coach comes in and says, guys, I'm pessimistic. We're going to lose today. It's going to be a pretty bad loss. And you're all going to be, you know, embarrassed at the end of it. It's going to be terrible. And then boom, you know, Patriots come out from down 28-3 against the Falcons and they win the Super Bowl. Jet's won last night without Aaron Rogers.

Starting point is 00:35:27 Well, yeah, I just heard you. But what I'm saying, what I'm saying to you is, you know, to say cautiously pessimistic and to sound like everything is bad, everything is ugly, everything is this, everything is that great. Well, what solution do you have for the rich Republicans of the right, for the Christian conservatives, for the libertarians that are also not happy about what's going on about the business owners about the guys that have the money? What what should be the solution long? Well, that's why that's why I am running I am running because I'm an America first guy believe the taxes are too too high Regulation is too much. We need to secure the board is we need to get need to get back to energy independence I was a very happy camper when Donald Trump was president. And we need to work real hard to make sure if he's a nominee, he gets back in. But I'm running because there are a number of issues

Starting point is 00:36:14 that we are not talking enough about if at all. And I've said this many times, the number one social issue in America that nobody's talking about. It's the epidemic of fatherlessness. It is particularly acute in the black community, 70% of black kids in the world today without a father in the home married to the mother, up from 1965 when it was 25%. Now 25% of white kids in the world today without a father in the home married to the mother, half of the Hispanic kids do.

Starting point is 00:36:41 It is far and away the number one social problem facing this country. And the numbers are clear. When you're raised without a dad, your five times will likely be poor and commit crime, nine times will likely drop out of school and 20 times will likely end up in jail. And the left isn't talking about it

Starting point is 00:36:54 because they created the problem. Our side isn't talking about it because if you're white, you're gonna be called racist. If you're black, you'll be called Uncle Tom or the black face of white supremacy. But nobody but nobody's talking about, including Donald Trump. Okay.

Starting point is 00:37:06 And so, and so, if I can get people talking about this, I will feel I've given back to my country and given back to my party. I've got a follow-up question for you on that. Okay. Continue if you have other things to say. Yeah, just one more thing. When I was trying to make this case on Charlemagne, and of course, they were not having it. Here's the deal. According to the CDC, a young black man, age 10 to 43, is 13 times

Starting point is 00:37:29 more likely to be murdered than a white male, same demo. Blacks account for 60% of the shootings, robberies, and the homicides in America. A young white man, 19, and under the number one calls a preventable death for a young white man in that demo. Is accidents like car accidents or surroundings or drug overdoses? The number one cause a preventable death for a 19 year old black male and under is homicide, almost always committed by another young black male. Now if it isn't fatherlessness, please tell me unless you're prepared to say black people are just genetically inclined to commit more crime, tell me what it is.

Starting point is 00:38:02 And almost nobody on the left when I propose that question has an answer to it. Okay, so the two questions on that. One, let's do the fatherless. A lot of my friends were conservative. You're a hero to them. We're from California, so people love you, admire you, adore you, and hate you. From the other side, they hate you. Obviously, some of the LA Times, called you the what, what did they call you? Black face of white supremacy. Black face of white supremacy. You can kind of pull up the cello Times article. But then I saw, I saw Eric D. Smith, our initials, oops.

Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah, and then I saw the article, one that said, you know, I think you were married in 92, and then divorced in 94, and the story is, she wanted to have kids, you didn't want to have kids. Right. And you've to have kids. And you've never had kids. Why a man with your kind of values,

Starting point is 00:38:49 your passion for America, your conservative values, why didn't you have kids? At the time, I didn't want them. One of my regrets in life is that I should have. Now I'm 71 and they get too late. But the time I didn't, I mean, I was, I was, I mean, I was 25 years old at one time. I'm not, I'm not that age anymore. And when I was younger, I, I think what happened is when I was younger, I really intensely disliked my father. I've wrote written a book about

Starting point is 00:39:16 it called Dear Father, Dear Son, Two Lives, Eight Hours. My father used to spank us really hard with, with a belt. My brothers and I both disliked him. And now I'm 25 years old and I sat down and had a conversation with my dad, not having really spoken to him for almost 10 years. And I told him how much I disliked him when I was growing up, how mean I thought he was, how angry I thought he was for silly reasons. And my dad and I had a conversation. I thought it was going gonna last for five or ten minutes and ended up lasting for eight hours. Wow And during that eight hour conversation I found it that my father never knew his biological father my last name

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Starting point is 00:41:14 my life the longest. He was an alcoholic. He used to beat up my mother and when I tried to stop him, he beat me up. My dad said, then I came home at the age of 13 and I started calling him with my mom's then boyfriend. Elder was long gone. And the mother sided with the boyfriend and threw my father out of the house. Never to return. 13-year-old black boy, Athens, Georgia, Jim Crow South at the beginning of the Great Depression. For the next eight hours, my dad just told me about his life. He became a Pullman Porter in the Trains.

Starting point is 00:41:41 That's how you ended up in California. This is before the war, for the Second World War. My dad was blown away. You could walk through the front door of a restaurant in California, in LA, and get served. He always had crackers and tin cans of tuna because he never knew in the south if you'd be able to get a meal. So my dad made a mental note, maybe someday I relocated to California. Pearl Harbor, my dad joined the Marines. I asked him why. There are no Marines out there. You know, I'm going to say two reasons. They go where the action is and my dad said, I love the uniforms. So he stationed on Guam and when the war is over, he goes to Chattanooga,

Starting point is 00:42:13 Tennessee where he met and married my mom to get him a job as a cook. My dad was in charge of cooking for the colored soldiers. And he was told, we don't hire niggers. He goes to an unemployment office. Lady says, you went to the wrong door. My dad goes out See his colored only He goes to that door to the very same lady who sent him out my dad came with my mom And so this is BS I'm going to LA get me a job at the cook and I'll send for you. It goes to LA He walks around and he's told You don't have any references my dad's a need references to make ham and eggs

Starting point is 00:42:43 and My dad offered to work for free for ham and eggs. And my dad offered to work for free for a reference. They wouldn't even do that. So they treated him the same way in LA as they did in Chattanooga. Maybe a little more polite. He calls an unemployment office. This time just one door. Lady says, I have nothing. My dad says, what time do you open? She says, nine. What time do you close? She says, five. My dad's obviously sitting in that chair. Do you have something? My dad sat in a chair for a whole day, came back a next day, sat there for half a day. She calls him up. I have something, I don't know if you're gonna want it.

Starting point is 00:43:06 My dad's, of course I'm going to want it, I'm starting a family, what is it? And she says a job cleaning toilets and a Biscoll brand bread. My dad did that for over 10 years, took a second full time job cleaning at another bread company, cleaning toilets. Cooked for a family on the weekend because he wanted my mom to be a stay at home mom, and he went to nice school

Starting point is 00:43:22 to get his GED, and then when he got his GED, he went to nice school to learn how to operate a small restaurant. The man never slept. Five minutes here, 15 minutes here, 20 minutes here, half hour here, not day after day, not week after week, not month after month, but year after year, which was why he was so grouchy. So as my dad is telling me this, my dad's getting bigger and bigger and bigger and I'm getting smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller and now I'm crying. And I apologize to my father for having such a harsh view towards him. And he said, there's nothing to apologize for.

Starting point is 00:43:50 You just didn't know. My father said, just follow the advice of I was given you and your brother's hard work wins. You get out of life what you put into it. Larry, you cannot control the outcome, but you are 100% in control of the effort. And before you moan or groan about what someone did to you or said to you, go to the nearest mirror, look at it and say to yourself,

Starting point is 00:44:07 what kind of done to change the outcome. And finally, my dad said this, nobody how hard you work, how good you are sooner or later, bad things are going to happen to you. How you deal with those bad things, would tell your mother and me if we raised a man. I was 25 years old when I had that conversation with them. For the next 35 years, he and I were the best of friends.

Starting point is 00:44:23 I wrote a book called, Dear Father, Dear Son, Two Lives, Eight Hours, About That Eight Hours Conversation. And it's changed people's lives. I get letters all over the world from people telling me that it changed that. So, so, so, so, so, in grain in me was I never wanted to have a child that felt the way I felt about my dad. And it was just in me. And it took a while for that to go away. By the way, my brothers both married women who had kids and they both wanted to have kids and I had the opposite reaction to my dad as my brothers did. Let me take something real quickly about my mom.

Starting point is 00:44:56 My mom was born on a farm in Huntsville, Alabama. My mom was a lifelong Democrat. My dad was a lifelong Republican and you should have been a fly on the wall to hear some of the argument. But nobody called anybody a fascist. My dad was a lifelong Republican. And you should have been a fly on the wall to hear some of the arguments. But nobody called anybody a fascist. Nobody called anybody a Nazi. Nobody said you only care about the rich. You don't care about the poor.

Starting point is 00:45:12 They were able to argue aggressively, passionately, but nobody demeaned anybody. And why we can't do that in this country to me is a real problem. And when I become president, I think I won't be able to change the tone of America's we can have discussions like this, like we're having here, civilly without anybody calling anybody a fascist

Starting point is 00:45:30 or a Nazi. My mother told my brothers and me, nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission. And so one day I'm in high school and I'm taking a course called African American Studies. If you know me, you've never heard me use a term African American describe myself, I don't. I'm an American who's black. I don't like course called African American Studies. If you know me, you've never heard me use a term African American, describe myself, I don't. I'm an American who's black.

Starting point is 00:45:47 I don't like the term African American. The name of the course was African American Studies, so I'm just telling you what the name of the course was. So we read a poem by a guy named County Cullen, and it goes like this, while riding through Old Baltimore so small and full of glee, I saw a young Baltimoreian keep looking straight at me. Now I was young and very small, and he was no wit bigger, and so I smiled, but he pulled that his tongue and called of glee. I saw a young Baltimoreian people looking straight at me. Now, I was young and very small and he was no wit bigger and so I smiled but he

Starting point is 00:46:07 put that as tongue and called me nigger. I saw the whole of Baltimore from May until September of all the things that happened there that's all that I remember. Teja was pissed, my class was all black. She talked about how this was gonna make the kid always feel inferior. He was gonna always have a permanent stain in his psyche. He'll never feel part of the American family. She was pissed. The class was pissed. I was pissed. So I'm walking home and I knew my mom was going to have a different reaction to the poem, although I didn't know what it was going to be. So I walked into the house and she's frying chicken wings, my favorite, and stirring a big pot of greens on the stove. I said, Mom, we read a poem in class.

Starting point is 00:46:45 I'm gonna get your reaction to it. She says, what is it? It goes like this, while riding through a Baltimore so small and full of glee, I saw a young Baltimoreian keep looking straight at me. Now, I was young and very small. He was not with bigger, and so I smiled. But he booked out his tongue and called me nigger.

Starting point is 00:46:58 I saw the whole of Baltimore from May until September of all the things that happened there that's all that I remember. My mom took the spoon out of the pot, hit it on the side and said, Larry, what a darn shame. He allowed something like that to spoil his vacation. How many wings do you want?

Starting point is 00:47:13 Mom. And that's hard. And your mom's a Democrat. Yeah. But she was a Kennedy type Democrat. My mom, by the way, because of me, began voting Republican, she voted for George W. Bush twice. And her position was Democratic Party left me.

Starting point is 00:47:27 I didn't leave the Democratic Party. She never changed her registration. My mom was a pro-gun person, second amendment person, she grew up with guns. She was pro-life. My dad was pro-life. My mom, strong national security. And she thought Democrats just became crazy. So I think that's how

Starting point is 00:47:48 Robert Kennedy feels I think about his party as well right now. Robert Kennedy Jr. Larry you just went straight to Robert Kennedy but men what you just said the last five ten minutes now explains there's a lot of men that and I'd be curious to know what you would say to this you're now you said you said you're seven, you're 71. Okay, so you're 7, April 27th, when's your birthday? April 27th, yeah. So you're 71. You haven't had kids, you wish you would have had kids, and I respect you for saying it now

Starting point is 00:48:15 because that's where wisdom, we can borrow wisdom from somebody like you who's got a few decades on us. What do you say to men who are in their 20s, late 20s, career guys, or 30s, or 40s who are like, you know what? You know, I also don't wanna have kids. I also don't wanna have kids because there's too much responsibility. I don't have a good father figure.

Starting point is 00:48:32 I don't have a good relation with them. What do you say to them? You're gonna regret it? That's what I would say to them. I have friends now, peers who have kids, and they've got grandkids, and I've never seen a man more joyful than when he's with his grandkids.

Starting point is 00:48:50 And I don't have grandkids. I don't have kids. I think you're missing out. What about, however, it isn't for everybody. My girlfriend never wanted to have kids. When I first met her, I thought she was saying it because she thought that's what I wanted her to say. One of my close friends is Dennis Prager.

Starting point is 00:49:11 Dennis Prager has often argued that you are not a fully developed human being until you've had kids, until you had that experience. And I've been on the same station with Dennis Prager for years. And every year, he'd have his dad come in from New York and his dad would talk about various things. And one time, Dennis gets up to use a restroom. This is during a break.

Starting point is 00:49:30 And Mr. Prager is there with me. Dennis is dad. I said, Mr. Prager, Dennis says that if you don't have kids, you're not fully formed as an adult. Because it always bothered me since I didn't have kids. And Mr. Prager said, I don't feel that way at all. I feel that you can just observe other people

Starting point is 00:49:46 and have your own life experiences from other people. There's no reason why you have to have kids. If you don't want to have kids, it's ridiculous to say that you would not be a fully old. So that's why I told you. Like later on when his dad left, when his dad said, so, typical father, you know, I remember one time, Dudley, Shepherd of the Hills, you know,

Starting point is 00:50:04 who Dudley Rutherford is, the pastor from LA, I used to time deadly shepherder the hills, you know, who deadly rather for this the pastor from LA I used to have a radio show with KKLA KLA called saving America I used to be right next to Prager salt and Glendale and that New York life right next to the New York life building right But That used to bring his father and is that would always undermine would deadly would say it was so funny I said like my son doesn't know what he's talking about. Here's how this works. And it was a interesting dynamic father-son relationship. Let's continue. Let's continue on this, you know, issue with presidential issues you're running on. I did not see you at Milwaukee. We were at the debate. And I know you're talking about... I was in Milwaukee.

Starting point is 00:50:41 You were in Maho. I was in the city of Milwaukee. I was not at the debate because the RNC at the last minutes shafted me. I mean, I met all the debate criteria. 40,000 individual donors. You and swarras, I believe. Swarras, I don't know about his situation. There's no about mine. I hit the 40,000 individual donors. I had 200 had to come from 20 different states. We had 200 from 37 different states. I had to submit three polls where I was at one percent or better. I did that. I get a phone call from Rodomick Daniel, the chair of the GOP and David Bosie, the debates are.

Starting point is 00:51:12 And they tell me I'm not eligible for the debate because one of the polls I submitted is not going to be used. I said, which one? Rasmussen, why? It's affiliate with the Trump campaign. I said, well, assuming that's true, why is it my problem? And they said, any poll affiliate with any candidate can be used by any other candidate. Brasmussen then put on the statement and said, Trump is not affiliate with our campaign.

Starting point is 00:51:32 With our poll, had nothing to do with our poll. There's no reason why elder can't use it. So even if I had picked up the phone and called and asked you some before, I submitted the poll and said, by the way, are you affiliate with Trump? They would have said no. Then I submitted a fourth poll, and Ron and McDaniel said, you submitted it to late. With true, I submitted it after their deadline.

Starting point is 00:51:50 For one, I didn't know I needed to submit another one, but more importantly, they finished their polling before the deadline. They didn't release the results until after the deadline, but they finished the polling before the deadline. So there was enough wiggle room, where in my opinion had they wanted me up there, they could have allowed me up there.

Starting point is 00:52:04 My lawyer is the former chair of the Federal Election Commission. And he argues that because the RNC failed to apply the criteria fairly to elder, what they did in effect was give an in-kind contribution to the eight people who were up there on that debate stage. And the value of that in-kind contribution based on how much Fox charges for a spot is almost $100 million. And if you don't put elder up there, we gave them until two o'clock on the debate day to change their mind.

Starting point is 00:52:32 We're going to follow complaint with the FEC. Well, two o'clock came and went and we've now filed that complaint. Now the next step is to get on the debate stage on the 27th of this month in... Reagan Library. Reagan Library. Yeah. Three percent in three different polls plus 50,000 individual donors. As for the 50,000 individual donors, that's not gonna be a problem, but the 3% is.

Starting point is 00:52:52 And two days ago, we launched a $500,000 ad campaign to try and get my numbers up. I saw that. So it's gonna be a coin toss. Larry, I'm pretty sure you saw it, that the first debate. If you had to choose, if you weren't even on the race, if you had to pick out of all of them,

Starting point is 00:53:09 I'm pretty sure you saw who would you put at the top. Who won that night? Donald Trump. I'm serious. I'm serious. By not going, that was smart not to go. I thought, and I felt this way when I ran for governor, I did not say a single negative thing

Starting point is 00:53:27 about any of my Republican rivals, not one time. I shot right to the top, and it wasn't because I was a front runner, I didn't expect that, but I was. I felt that the target was Gavin News. I remember it was a two-part deal. The first part is, do you want this man recalled? It doesn't matter what happens on the second part if he isn't recalled.

Starting point is 00:53:44 And every single time somebody said, what do you think about John Cox? John Cox was a guy that ran against Gavin Disman the first time and you also ran it as a replacement candidate. I said, it's not about John Cox, it's about what Gavin Disman did by shutting down California. And the more severe way that anybody else is about people leaving California for the very first time. And hurting 70 years, it's about crimes, about homelessness, it's about the awful school budget.

Starting point is 00:54:04 It's about how bad our schools are doing. It's about the fact that we have an underfunded pension liability of $1.5 trillion in California. If the others had said that, and it's to the same, well, elders this, elders that, elders that, I think the first part might have passed. So I feel the same way about this debate. We ought to all come together, meaning Republicans,

Starting point is 00:54:24 and make sure that Biden doesn't get four more years. The idea that we can't at least agree, not to call Donald Trump in insurrection, this is one of them did up there, you gotta be kidding me. We can't agree on the borders, on crime, on this defund the police nonsense. We ought to be talking about that,

Starting point is 00:54:41 and the fact that Republicans were taken, shot to each other, in my opinion, they're Donald Trump one. Oh, yeah. And calling the insurrection is, I don't know if you guys saw yesterday, Kamala Harris did a speech about 9.11 and she compared January 6th to Pearl Harbor and 9.11. It's just despicable. Yeah, it was ridiculous. Which second debate that Trump may or may not go to, a, do you think you should go and b, why do you think that that even the DeSantis is,

Starting point is 00:55:06 certainly the penises of the world, the crises of the world, even Nikki Haley, are not gonna coalesce around Trump? You know, I'd be the biggest hypocrite in the world if I were to tell Donald Trump he should go to the second debate or even the first one. I didn't go to any of my debates when I was, when I was a prime minister,

Starting point is 00:55:20 they had about a half a dozen of them. And I said the same thing, I just said to you, I said there's no point in us to get into a circular firing squad. And giving Gavin Newsom video he's gonna use against whoever it is who's the front runner. And that's exactly what my opinion happened. Look, Chris Christie is probably the only one up there

Starting point is 00:55:40 that I think I would feel, I would feel that any of the only one up there that I think I would feel, I feel that any of the eight people up there is a better president than Joe Biden with the exception of Chris Christie. The fact that he's referred to Donald Trump as an insurrectionist and can't understand that what's happening to our country with this two tiered system of justice

Starting point is 00:56:01 is much more important than your hostility to our Donald Trump. I don't understand that. What are your thoughts on Vivek? I know that you've said high praise about him. You also said that he stole a line from you about the number one problem. He did. What are his chances?

Starting point is 00:56:12 Look, the 800 pound grill in the room is Donald Trump. He's not going anywhere. You know, if he has a health problem or something like that, I can't imagine that he's not going to get the nomination right now. I have a problem with anybody who stands up there and says, quote, I'm the only one up here who's not button paid for, close quote, which is what he said, the Vex said. Really? Tim Scott's button paid for, really?

Starting point is 00:56:38 37 years old, never run for office before, you're the only one who's not button paid for. I thought that was a bit much. Regarding him stealing my line, here's the backstory. On one of our, we've been in Iowa, New Hampshire many times. I've seen him speak many times. He heard me speak many times. He's never once referred to the epidemic of fatherlessness. So right before the first debate, he comes up to me

Starting point is 00:57:02 at one of our events, I forget where where and he said can we I talk to you privately I said sure step into my office we went over to the side a little bit and he said if you don't make the debate will you endorse me and I said I cannot promise that I can tell you this if I don't make the debate say something to the effect of my friend Larry Ode to can't be up here however he has brought to the forefront the issue of the epidemic of fatherlessness, and I salute him for having done that. As you know, he said part of that, but did not give me any attribution. I'm okay with the fact that he's raised the issue. That's more important than getting attribution, but he did say he was going to do that and then didn't do it. By the way, for decades, I have been saying we've got a country to save. Guess who said that during the debate? Nikki Haley quote, we've got a country to save.

Starting point is 00:57:47 Just saying. So it sounds like you're going to be sort of the president or the president. Yes, I was there in spirit. Yeah, if not in body. What is this Rob? Uh, this is a clip of Larry talking about the fatherless epitome. Go ahead and play that. Play that. The ahead and play that. Play that.

Starting point is 00:58:07 Epidemic of fatherlessness. So part of the problem is we also have a federal government that pays single women more not to have a man in the house, than to have a man in the house, contributing to an epidemic of fatherlessness. Larry, you might have to just do the voiceover first. Yeah, I would, I would, I would probably, yeah, this do the voice over first. Yeah. I was proud. Yeah. This is at the GOP Lincoln.

Starting point is 00:58:27 That's all it's. Look, I think Vivek is. I'm a spoken. I think Vivek is an absolute stud, but this isn't the first time he's been. Epidemic, a fatherless stud. Epidemic, a fatherless stud. Stealing lines. Obviously his first line was, you know, I'm a skinny little kid with a funny last name.

Starting point is 00:58:40 He took that from Obama. He took that from Obama. But you know, they say like we stand on the shoulders of giants. Can it just be seen as like, look, I'm just using what works. And can you blame it? Somebody once said, the originality is the art of concealing your source. And Joe Biden, as you know, he had at least one or two campaigns go supernova because he stole from other people.

Starting point is 00:58:58 Didn't give them attribution. Well, even Donald Trump took make America great again from Ronald Wink. From Reagan, right. So, I mean, some of these things are just duplicatable. Yeah. You're right. Okay. Well, agree to agree that.

Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah. Well, thoughts on RFK. What do you think about that? No, I don't think. I think he's got some interesting ideas. I mean, he's not your typical Democrat, but he is a Democrat. He is, I'm not hurting him saying anything about taxes being too high, regulations being too high. I've never heard him say anything about we should be rolling back this march towards single payer

Starting point is 00:59:31 on health care. So he's still a Democrat, although he's a much more rational one than some of the others. He was opposed to the lockdowns. He said that he doesn't believe in the additional gun control law. We'll do anything about gun violence although he does support assault weapons ban so he's a little more rational than the average Democrat but he's still a Democrat. He's still a Democrat. And you saw what they did with New Hampshire. Pretty pretty much there's nothing he can do to be nominated to win anything.

Starting point is 01:00:00 They pretty much lock them out. So if that's the case, why is he still campaigning? You have to ask him. I mean, people run for different reasons. I mean, I'm realistic about my opportunity to become president. I think that it's a long shot. But I'm running for the issues I mentioned,

Starting point is 01:00:15 to talk about homelessness and fatherless and the brother, and the lie that American systemically racist that's getting people killed. And I don't think our side, by the way, effectively deals with that well enough. It's not just driving nonsense like reparations. I mentioned that, which I can say to be the extraction of money from people

Starting point is 01:00:31 who were never slave owners, to be given to people who were never slaves is driving stuff like race-based preferences and DEI, it's getting people killed. It's called the Ferguson effect or the George Floyd effect and that's phenomenon of course pulling back all over America for fear of being accused of systemic racism as a result in city after city There are lots of people who are dead who otherwise wouldn't be dead if the police were doing their normal proactive policing and I don't think that our side me Republic inside

Starting point is 01:00:58 is Calling enough attention to the damage done by this lie Look at the George Floyd riot to the Black Lives Matter riots. It took place in protests in May of 2020, the last four months, most deadly a protest in history of America. 35 people killed, 2000 police officers injured about $2 billion in property damage, insured property damage, maybe another billion or two in uninsured property damage, all because of an assumption, a narrative that would happen to George Floyd had to do with his race.

Starting point is 01:01:29 Now, the thing was televised, remember, and the lead prosecutor was a black man, and he'd never once said that what happened to George Floyd had anything to do with his race. In fact, in his opening statement, he took pains to say the police in general were not on trial. The Minneapolis PD in general was not on trial. And that he praised them. He said this individual cop, Derek Shulvin is on trial. But what he did, he didn't do to George Floyd. Yet all these people in the streets, on the assumption

Starting point is 01:01:53 that what happened to George Floyd had to do with his race. Now I think if you were to ask most of the people, there were 200 cities ahead protests, millions of people in the streets. I think if you were to ask most of these people to describe their political ideology, most of them would probably say that I'm either very liberal or liberal.

Starting point is 01:02:09 There's a website called policemag.com. This is important. People who are self-described as very liberal were asked how many unarmed black men did the police kill in 2019? One half of the self-described very liberal people, 50% of them, thought the police killed 1000 unarmed black men in 2019. Eight percent thought they killed 10,000. Of those who were self-described as liberal, 39% thought they killed 1000.

Starting point is 01:02:38 Five percent thought they killed 10,000. According to the Washington Post database, it was 12. 12,000, so that's the gap between what people think of going on versus what is going on. That's what happens to your mentality. To be fair, not 12,000 or 1212. Well, well, well, Washington Post database. And in fact, the police kill more unarmed white people every year than they kill unarmed blacks.

Starting point is 01:02:57 And there are video of the police mishandling, manhandling, mistreating unarmed white people. Nobody cares. I urge people to Google Kelly Thomas, Fullerton, California a few years ago. Literally, there's three or four cops beating up this homeless guy. Two of them were tried, found that guilty. One had charges dismissed against him.

Starting point is 01:03:18 Almost nine, 10 minutes of video, almost as long as George Floyd. There's another one called Tony Tempa, T.I.M. P.Like Paul A, Dallas, Texas, homeless guy, mentally ill, cops beat him up. I can't breathe, I can't breathe. You said all that, maybe 13 minutes of video, Dallas, Texas, white guy, nobody cares.

Starting point is 01:03:40 And my point is, giving you the false impression that the police are killing unarmed black people, when in fact it is rare for the police to kill anybody, a little on an unarmed black person. And by the way, unarmed does not mean not dangerous. Michael Brown was unarmed, but his DNA was found on the officer's gun. He had done a strong arm robbery just a minute earlier. So just because you're unarmed doesn't mean you're not perceived as dangerous. But it's rare for the police to kill anybody, let alone an unarmed black person.

Starting point is 01:04:04 But the people in the streets, as I said, from these numbers, have no blooming idea how infrequent this is. The closest comparison I can make to it is the final. And I'm curious to get your thoughts on this. So why does one story get more momentum than the other one? Why does the one story of blacks experience an

Starting point is 01:04:25 adverse white kids most in narrative will give you a recent example here in Florida that Jacksonville racist killed those three black guys here in Florida and Joe Biden made a comment and not only do you make a comment he said silence in the face of hate like this is complicit You're being complicit about three months ago. Tulsa Oklahoma Black guy gets a gun if you are hearing this for the first time. This is my point Black guy gets a gun. Walks him to a white guy

Starting point is 01:04:59 Pulse out the gun shoot him in the back of the head and kills him Goes to another area of Tulsa Oklahoma. See's another white guy pulls out the gun, shoots him in the back of the head and kills him. Goes to another area of Tulsa, Oklahoma. See, it's another white guy, pulls out the gun, shoots him in the back of the head and kills him. Admits he did it because they were white. Biden didn't say a damn thing. He didn't say a damn thing about that because it doesn't advance the agenda. And by the way, most homicide, it's same race homicide. Most whites were killed or killed by other whites. Most blacks were killed or killed by other blacks.

Starting point is 01:05:23 However, every year there are a handful of black white homicides out of the, say, 20,000 homicides, about 750 of them are white, white, black. 500 white people are killed by blacks, even though blacks are just 13% of the population. 250 blacks are killed by whites, even though whites are 60% of the population. So blacks are killing twice as many whites as the other way around. Most people have no idea about that stat. I'll give you another one. Forget about homicide.

Starting point is 01:05:51 This is violent crime between blacks and whites other than homicide, attempted murder, rape, assault with a weapon. Roughly half a million such instances every single year. 85 to 90% is a black per white victim, only 10% to 15% the other way around. Most people aren't aware of that. Now, if some white guy, white Republican said, you know, we have an epidemic of black supremacy in America, as Biden said about white supremacy at Howard.

Starting point is 01:06:18 If a white guy said that, we would probably call him a race hustling demagogue and he'd be denounced. But Biden can go to Howard University and tell these graduating students just a few months ago, the number one problem facing the homeland is white supremacy, and nobody says a damn thing. He is being every bit a race hustling demagogue

Starting point is 01:06:37 is outsharp than, but nobody said a word. Why? I think it's Republicans, nothing's scared to Republican more than a left-wing person calling him a racist. They run from that. One of the reasons I believe the Democratic Party, the Republican Party never really cared that much about me being on the debate stage.

Starting point is 01:06:54 I say this kind of stuff makes them feel uncomfortable. Republicans are trying to reach out to black voters, and they fear if they talk about fatherlessness that black women will perceive them as being demeaned, that somehow you're undermining the hard work that black females by themselves are doing raising these kids. You're not doing anything of the kind, but I think Republicans are afraid the reaction will be the same way. If Republicans start talking about the kind of stuff racially that I'm talking about, the fact that black people kill

Starting point is 01:07:21 more white people than the other way around, I think they feel that the media and the left will jump all over them. It's no fun being called a knuckle-tom, it's no fun being called the black face of white supremacy. And for a white person to be called a racist, that's no fun either. So they'd rather not talk about it.

Starting point is 01:07:38 Do you think it's still Democrats against Republicans, Republicans against Democrats, or do you think it's establishment versus anti-establishment? Meaning, do you think that distinction has been made to the American voter to say, look, you're either voting for a establishment Republican candidate, you're voting for an establishment, Democratic candidate, or you're voting for an anti-establishment Democratic candidate, or anti-establishment Republican candidate? I guess I don't see it that way at all.

Starting point is 01:08:05 I think the divide in this country is between the left, wokeism, the perception that America is still a country of racism, of sexism, of homophobia, and those who believe in hard work, accountability, and personal responsibility. That's to me is to divide. Democrats, Hollywood, media, academia, big tech, they're all on one side and people that are hard working, they just want to get by and want government off their backs on the other side. I was watching a debate one time between Debbie Washington and Shultz, the chair of the DNC and Ryan Threeva's, the chair of the RNC. And this is a live debate.

Starting point is 01:08:47 So I was texting Ryan's Privas. He didn't see my text, it didn't respond to it. But Debbie Warterman-Schult said, I want to know that my party has my back. And I texted him and I said, I want to know which party will get government off my back. And I think that's a divide. But okay, so that, you know, and I said, I want to know which party will get government off my back. I think that's a divide. But, but, but okay.

Starting point is 01:09:06 So then, you know, there are people that want to have government control you from both sides though left and right. So this is why what I'm trying to say is, you ever read the book, Blue Ocean strategy or no? Okay. So blue ocean strategies, a book about how to not directly compete against your competition. I think Republicans are completely misanamarked.

Starting point is 01:09:24 They all sound the same and they're all screwing it up. In my opinion, I could be completely wrong, but this book talks about, you got to increase, decrease, eliminate, create. So you got to increase a little bit of something, you got to decrease a little bit of something, you got to eliminate something that everybody's doing or you got to create something new.

Starting point is 01:09:41 So for example, yellowtail is a wine company that was directly competing against other wine companies that were getting destroyed. Blue ocean idea comes out. Yellowtail says, instead of competing against wine drinkers, we are cheap wine. We're not going to beat these guys. Yellowtail goes and competes against beer drinkers to get yellowtail to be sold at bars, et cetera, et cetera. Yellow tail goes from selling, I don't know, you know, how many cases per year, to 48 million cases per year for success. And they blow up, and they become a whole different company. So when you're in a red ocean, everyone's stealing from each other, stealing votes from each other,

Starting point is 01:10:19 stealing all this stuff from each other versus like go to blue ocean, there's no other shark there, have you on market. Republicans keep fighting the same fight and they keep getting their asses handed to them. It's the same thing. The way they're presenting the argument as Democrats against Republicans is this, this, this, this, that versus, no, it's the people that I wanna make decisions for you, the establishment versus the anti-establishment.

Starting point is 01:10:41 I have difficulty accepting the premise. This is not a product. This is not a, a, a, a, but it is though. It's, it's ideas. It's, it's what will make your life better. For example, one of the things that I argue and would have mentioned had I been on the debate. Both Republicans, Democrats talk about the science of government.

Starting point is 01:11:03 Republicans say the government's too big and they want tax cuts. There's one candidate that has a 2% reduction in the size of government every year, something like that. Government's going to get bigger and bigger no matter who's president unless we do something radical and that radical is this. We need an amendment to the Constitution to fix spending to a certain percentage of the GDP. Otherwise it gets bigger and bigger. Where the Ronald Reagan is president, where the George W. Bush is president, where the W. It's president, where the George Herbert Walker Bush is president, where the Trump is president. Largely because the biggest driver of our budget are the so-called entitlements.

Starting point is 01:11:36 Even Barack Obama and Bill Clinton used the word unsustainable to describe them, but nothing happens. If you run, promise that you're going to reform entitlement programs. You're going to lose election because the other side is going to accuse you of not caring about the poor, the stick the elderly, the only way to do the kind of reforms and the kind of cuts that's necessary is a law that's forcing the politicians to do that. And the only way you're going to do that is to amend the Constitution. And so as the president with my bully pulpit, I will be explaining to American people, particularly young voters,

Starting point is 01:12:06 that these programs are not gonna be there for you unless there's serious, dramatic reform. And it's not pie on the sky. The constitution has been amended on average every 10 years. And all you have to do is make the case to the American people. And nobody's doing that, not Trump, not the saddest, not anybody.

Starting point is 01:12:19 It's been amended 27 times. I think the ifteve numbers, that 27. So my point is to your argument, I don't look at it that way. I think that we need to complain to the American people why my policies are better than this guy's policies. Why I'm more likely to have an economy that thrives than this guy.

Starting point is 01:12:37 Why I'm more likely to be able to secure borders than this guy. And you put together a set of policies and issues that a voter can vote for. That vote will vote for you. Well, I would say the only reason I'm making this argument is because if you think about why Trump did well in 2016, his message was not like the rest of you guys.

Starting point is 01:12:56 Everybody had the same message. Every candidate had the same message. Oh, we're gonna do this. Everybody sent the same. Marco Rubio sent the same as Ted Cruz sent the same as, you know, Hackeby sent the same as, you know, you name them're gonna everybody send the same Mark Rubio Sander the same as Ted grew Sander the same as you know How could be sounded the same as you know? Car you name them all everybody said the same here's a guy that came and said I've given money to everybody here Okay, there's a reason why everybody's clapping for this guy Jeb Bush is because didn't let me come in here

Starting point is 01:13:18 All the people here are his donors all the booing. They're all the donors. That's right. It's true He's guys all gave money to him. He took money from them. He jet goes, ha ha ha, that laugh is a weak laugh. And his messaging, I think Trump won in 16 because Trump had a blue ocean. Everybody on the stage was fighting the same fight except for one guy. And he crushed everybody.

Starting point is 01:13:38 Everybody was like, you know what, man, what angle do we take in Cisco? He has given me money. I can't take that argument. He did say this. He did say that say that and then today even with RFK, you know, aside from them bully and him the way they have Why is RFK getting momentum? Actually think about it. Why is RFK getting so much momentum? Because maybe the American people are sick of the establishment and the anti-establishment message the last two elections is resonating with people.

Starting point is 01:14:06 One the way Trump did it, one the way, you know, in COVID, which was catastrophic, what happened with COVID, so take that part of that in today's election, RFK. If you were to say the guys that are getting momentum on two sides, take the guys that are getting momentum on two, both sides, even set aside Trump. Whether you like him or not, Vivek is one of them, RFK is one of them. Both of their messages is an anti-establishment message. And everybody else's message is pretty much an established message. Nick Yaley is an established message.

Starting point is 01:14:35 Chris Christie is an establishment message. Pence is an establishment message. I mean, who else you want me to give you? Everybody is an establishment message except for two candidates, Vivek and RFK and their gaining momentum. I think Trump also came in as somebody who was in your face. He talked about political correctness. He was able to in a very skillful way

Starting point is 01:15:00 demean his opponents one after another after another. I think people find him funny, find him entertaining, charismatic. I've never seen a politician like that. I think he's a unique person. I've never seen anything quite like it. Perfect. Let's go to the last example of a guy that ran like Trump, but didn't have a personality. Can you think of the, and who got 19%, 20%, no one thought it was going to happen.

Starting point is 01:15:23 Who cost another guy that was supposed to be a two-term president, that became a one-term president, that in his documentary there was one guy he didn't want to comment on. And I was Ross Perot. George Vassini, he didn't want to talk about Ross for in his documentary. When the word Perot came out, he did not want to,

Starting point is 01:15:37 he says, I don't want to talk about that. I don't want to talk about that. So what happened with Perot? How did Perot speak? He wasn't funny. We're fine, yeah. He was boring. He was funny.

Starting point is 01:15:45 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, why, no, why, no, why, they doing that? Yeah. No, no, no, I'm gonna get on the hood and I'm gonna look at it right now. I'm gonna go, look at it and put it back down. I'm gonna, that's gonna take care of that. I'm not gonna sound about it.

Starting point is 01:15:55 He was hysterical. But he wasn't Trump. He didn't have Trump's personality. And that's the damn shame. He wasn't, he didn't have Trump. But what did he have? But he also ran as an independent. He had a message of anti-independence.

Starting point is 01:16:04 Independent's don't win.. Independence don't win. They just don't win. But it's not what I'm, the point, well, Trump was an independent who ran as a Republican. Yeah, but he ran as a party. Totally agree. So Ross made a mistake running as a independent.

Starting point is 01:16:17 He could have ran as a Republican, could have been a different story. He could have ran as a party to represent that he would have had a maybe a different story. But the point I'm making here is, all I'm interested in as a business owner, as a guy that studies the markets to see, who has an advantage on the way they market themselves.

Starting point is 01:16:35 I look at the Santas and I say, here's a guy with a phenomenal resume. Who has a better resume after COVID than him? Nobody. There's not a single governor with a better resume than him, right, after COVID. what happened with his messaging? Doesn't connect. He sounds like everybody else.

Starting point is 01:16:50 Again, I think you're making it much more complicated than it is. I think there's a phenomenon known as Donald J. Trump, like so which nobody has ever seen. This guy never even ran for office, little-known held office, wasn't a general, came out of nowhere. He used to be a Democrat.

Starting point is 01:17:06 Then he wasn't independent. Then he became a Republican. He had a almost 100% name recognition from the apprentice. There's just been nothing like him. I'm shocked that Ron DeSantis is not doing better. But when you compare him to Donald Trump, I'm sorry. It's like Larry Holmes. He comes after Muhammad Ali. I'm sorry. It's like Larry Holmes. He comes after Muhammad Ali.

Starting point is 01:17:26 I'm sorry, Larry Holmes was a great fighter, but when you come after Muhammad Ali, that's a big shadow. And so, the status is in Donald Trump's shadow right now. And when Donald Trump, if he gets elected again, he becomes lame duck the next day. I think the front runner in 2028 will be, will be Ron DeSantis.

Starting point is 01:17:43 You think so? Yeah. You think so? Oh yeah, Florida so. Yeah. Florida. Florida. He stood down COVID. He stood down woke ism. He got reelected with 20%. He took Miami Dade County. He looks great. He's a war hero. Great wife, a cancer survivor. What's not to like? It's just not your time it's donald trump time sorry is maga gonna support him after him essentially going after trump i think so but that's a that's a long way away i mean it's a real far down the rule but i

Starting point is 01:18:16 really think that we just have to recognize the donald trump i've never seen a one-term president hold on the party like this when uh... when jimmy carter lost he couldn't get a table at Thedberger. When George Herbert Walker Bush lost, nobody was hooked to him. This guy lost, he's a one-term president, and he maintained his grip over the party. I've never seen anything like it. And I've been watching politics since I was eight years old.

Starting point is 01:18:39 Are you a sports guy? Yeah. You ever seen a movie, Billy Bean, The Money Ball? I did. We watch them movie all the time great Favorite movies. Yeah, he's the only guy that I brought three times to speak at my different events Wow, is he still the Oakland? GM I think he is I don't know if he went anywhere, but he got the offer from Boston

Starting point is 01:18:55 But he never took the ball never took it. Yeah, so when you meet him, you know, so this guy was a five-tool player I was supposed to be the next you know, whatever There's a part in a movie where he asked the question of Is it Noah, is it actor, name, Jonah, Jonah here. Jonah here. He says, so let me ask you question. After we, I left, I know you searched me

Starting point is 01:19:12 and I know you looked at my numbers. Would you have picked me number one draft pick? He says, yeah, I would have. He says, stop all shitting me. Tell me the truth. Where would you have picked me? He said, I would have picked you in the night round. Nine from, yeah.

Starting point is 01:19:24 No sign bonus. He says, and you are going to Sam and he takes a drink and he puts it on. He says, got it. Well, pack your bags. Come down here. I just signed you. I bought you from the Cleveland Indians, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:19:35 Okay. So here's, here's all I'm going. Jonah, the guy that plays, who does he play by the way in the movies? He playing, Paul, Paul, he put us there. Paul, he put us there, right? So, and he comes in. He's saying all these years, you know, we're watching 61, two days ago, the whole story with Roger Meres and Mickey Man on the owner of the Yankees, like, I brought you to your bombers, I don't care, you're 260 batting average, hit the home

Starting point is 01:19:55 or swing for the fence, that's why we brought you here, right? Back in the days, baseball was about what? Who can hit the home runs? Who can get the eyeballs? Who can fill up the arena? Everything changed. Once, you know, Podesta, you know, on base percentage, all this other stuff.

Starting point is 01:20:10 I think, I think you guys are so been in this world for so long in the political, and I keep saying you guys. I mean, people who are in the political side, I don't wanna put you as you guys, but you're part of media, you've been around for a long time. Hell, you got to start in the freaking hall of fame, you know, on the hall of the walk of fame. So I think that world, you are so used to saying the same lines, the same things, the same things, every three, four years, that nobody has sat there and challenged the establishment of, opinions, radio, you know, whatever. No one's challenged you guys to say,

Starting point is 01:20:48 I don't think you're looking at the right categories of who to choose as a candidate. I think you keep looking at the same old, same old way of selecting candidates. And I think what Trump is doing to that world, he's shocked the hell out of everybody to say, okay, what used to matter is not what matters today. What matters today is very different.

Starting point is 01:21:08 Let's look at a golf score of candidates to put up there to look at and then realize, nope, this guy's not going to do it. He just doesn't have the X factor. He doesn't have the following. He doesn't have this. He doesn't have this. He doesn't have that. The score here, golf score, the number one guy, if I had more time on my hands, and I

Starting point is 01:21:23 wasn't running nine companies, I would hire, I mean, a series with you right now. I would hire 10 analysts, bring them in, put the last 500 candidates that we've had, Dems, right, independent, everything, get every one of their scoring based on 40 different categories, then eliminate 10 of the categories, the bottom 10, then go 30, then go eliminate bottom 10,

Starting point is 01:21:45 they go 20, then eliminate bottom 10, go top 10, and then I would go based on the top 10, most important areas to select, they candidate, look at a golf score and say, you know what, look at this, look what trend we notice. This guy did this because it is, no, this guy's not gonna win, that guy's not gonna win. Not saying there's some people that do this outer,

Starting point is 01:22:01 but I think, you act like it's mathematical, It's not, it's not. But I think it is. Remember in the movie, Moneyball? He said, you think you know, but you don't. He had all these coaches there. You don't. Who saw Donald Trump coming?

Starting point is 01:22:18 Nobody did. Nobody did. Who saw Joe Biden coming in 2020? Nobody did. Not until Clyburn got behind him. This is unpredictable. I mean, I never thought Donald Trump was going to get the nomination until...

Starting point is 01:22:34 Well, that's a different story though. Because you were talking about the Astros winning the World Series. Here's a deal. I'm at home when he comes down the escalator. Yeah. And he says Mexicans, they're rapists, they're this, oh my god, this is going to be one of the shortest campaigns

Starting point is 01:22:50 in here. And next day, I'm in an area of LA called Sunland, which is a blue collar, mostly white area. And I'm at this restaurant called Cocos, which is like a dinis. I'm at the bar having my vegetarian breakfast, bacon, eggs, and hash-packs. God walks up to me.

Starting point is 01:23:06 He says, or you Larry Elder said, yeah, he said, what are you doing here? I said, I'm here on business. He said, what do you think about what my guy said last night? I said, my guy, he said, yeah, Donald Trump.

Starting point is 01:23:16 And the guy, by the way, was a painter, as in house painter. And I said, what did you think of him? He said, it's about time somebody spoke for me and he walked away. Wow. Nothing guy comes to me five minutes later. You Larry, yeah, what are you doing of him? He said, it's about time somebody spoke for me and he walked away. Nothing got counted to me five minutes later. You larry?

Starting point is 01:23:28 Yeah. What are you doing here? What did you think of? What did you think of? What did you think of what Trump said last night? Man, it's about time somebody stood up for us little people. I was there for 45 minutes and that kind of conversation repeated itself over and over and over again. Two guys were Hispanic. One guy looked like he was Asian American.

Starting point is 01:23:43 And I went on the air that day. And I said, I recounted what I just told you. And I said, I've never seen a Republican connect with regular people like that since Ronald Reagan. This guy's going to get the nomination. He's going to be coming next president of the United States. And nobody was saying it at the time. Okay. So my point is, who saw that coming? Even CNN, MSNB HEEHA, as I call it, kept putting them up there because they're really there is a category for that the ratings went up. Yeah, but they thought of him as a joke Okay, are we on a huffington went on television said we're covering him and and having imposed in the entertainment section because when he's not being I would create that as a category on the golf score I would create that as a so here's what I wrote based on what you just said. So let's have some fun together. All right

Starting point is 01:24:22 I would create that as a, so here's what I wrote based on what you just said. So let's have some fun together. All right. All right. Number one, money ball. Okay. Remember the scene where all the old scouts are like, I like this one guy. Who would want to have his girlfriend at best as a six? You should never have a start at a six as a girlfriend.

Starting point is 01:24:34 And I like, he didn't have time. These are all the old guys in their 60s and 70s. Right. Trump. And I should recruit. And then this guy said, this is all that guy. The beautiful swing. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:24:43 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why isn't he here? Well, he's gonna learn how to hit. So we're gonna teach him. That's the part of the time we're gonna, the scouts thought they knew what they were talking about because they've been in that world for so long, okay? And then a new player shows up, a new guy, Joan of Hill, Deepa Desi,

Starting point is 01:24:58 and we gotta look in a complete different way. I'll give you the other one. One of the things I would put as a category is this is what I visualize. I'll give you the other one. One of the things I would put as a category is, this is what I visualize. A lot of candidates choosing their presidential election, you know, what they're gonna campaign on. Here's what they do.

Starting point is 01:25:13 Let me role play and tell me if I'm wrong, okay? Call me out, you're wrong. I love it. You're right. I have one quick thing though. You mentioned Vivek as a non-establishment attorney. He's at 5%, 6%. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:25:27 Come on. But no, he's at 6% because he's going against the number one establishment guy. That's what I'm talking about. No, that's not what you're talking about. That's the elephant in the room right there. You don't understand my point. No, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 01:25:38 You're not understanding my point. Do you, Vivek is following the playbook of Trump? And he's at 5% because there is a Trump. What if there was no Trump? Take Trump out. But there is. No, no, I understand that. But because the guy ahead of him is a bigger anti-establishment candidate, which is attractive

Starting point is 01:25:54 people on America today. And the Sanders has higher numbers than the VEVEC. And according to you, the Sanders is a established. Because the Sanctus a year ago, you had no clue who the guy was. You've known the Sanctus. If VVEC, you didn't know who you were, who he was. He was not even Santas. Vivek, you didn't know who he was. He was not even, your argument is you've got to get somebody

Starting point is 01:26:08 who's non-traditional. I'll give you Vivek's technique. Non-esthetic. No, I will find. Vivek is that way. He's number three. The next guy is in your view and establishment guy.

Starting point is 01:26:17 Mr. Hollywood Walk of Fame. Let me push back. Okay. As the guy that's 30 years you're junior just to give you a different perspective. Okay I could be wrong and I'm very comfortable with that. You are hear me out. Yeah You are right. By the way, this has been the history for the longest I'm 70 year olds thinking 40 year olds are wrong Right and a 40 year olds kind of tend to disrupt a little bit

Starting point is 01:26:37 That's kind of and in a 40 year olds think they know all 20 year olds disrupt with social media We have to pay attention to these types of guys. So watch this. So you're saying, you know, Vivek doesn't have that going on. Yep, because Vivek would be missing one massive, massive, massive category on the golf score. What is that? Online persona, TV personality.

Starting point is 01:26:56 You don't have it. You started too late. Way too late. Trump's been doing it for 50 years. Okay, one of the biggest things for me in anti-establishment guy, would be your online, your social persona, your TV persona for how long. Whether it's not necessarily a Q-score, following, you know, viability today, you know, stories today,

Starting point is 01:27:19 all that other stuff. So that Vivek does not have. That doesn't work in his favor. Okay. Two would be charm and selling. The Santas doesn't have charm and selling. Vivek does not have. That doesn't work in his favor, okay? Two would be charm and selling. The Santis doesn't have charm and selling. Vivek has that, okay? The Santis is more policies. And as much as we want to put policies at the top, I think policies is maybe top five, maybe top three. I think there's things way more important than policies.

Starting point is 01:27:40 When it comes down to getting eyeballs. Now, Biden, I totally agree, but that's a black swan event. That's not a typical traditional season pandemic. It's a very different season one. I don't even think it's that. I think he was bringing up Clyburn. Let's just call Biden the Astros case. Because the Democratic...

Starting point is 01:27:56 Why is it Astros? Yeah, because the Democratic DNC, I think we all agree, decided to cheat. So let's take Biden off the side and just say, hey, they cheated it and they picked him. Isn't that correct? They decided to de. So let's take Biden off the side and just say, hey, they cheated it and they picked him. Isn't that correct? They decided to decap Bernie Sanders because they didn't think he could win. Right.

Starting point is 01:28:11 They didn't like the way it was working out in the, whoops, Democratic posh sauce through elections and primary state-based state. And they just decided he was the guy. And I had one other thing here. Yeah. Can I want to think here? One other thing that kind of helps out here, that if you put Ross Perot, that if you put Vivek who's a junior, junior, that if you put Trump,

Starting point is 01:28:27 that this thing called FU money, okay? That's it, they don't need, so now you're agreeing. Thank you Larry, we are converting a little bit. No, no, you're not. Yes, I am. I'm agreeing with you that Donald Trump is a unique species. Is that the name of a pack? He's got FU money, he's got 100% name recognition.

Starting point is 01:28:44 He's got a personality like nobody that I've ever seen and we've been doesn't have one of the four Vivek does not one of the for my other which one does the Santa said let's take a look at this There's the Santa's have a big social media following no Okay, there's the Santa's have charm no no does he have policies? Yes, yes, yes, yes, he have a few money No, no, you see it's one out of four You understand the point I'm making to you The game is changing. It's called blue ocean strategy money ball to start with

Starting point is 01:29:10 Larry help this is the point I'm trying to make the whole thing Joe Biden Trump is an absolute anomaly. We've never seen anything like him. He's got check check check check the policy thing is almost irrelevant And I think a lot of his policies were good. I have one 15 point that I say the policy thing is irrelevant. It's not irrelevant. That's why he's a Republican. Republican stand for strong borders. They stand for strong national security. They stand for long or stand for low regulations.

Starting point is 01:29:32 So that's assumed. But I wrote one additional point to your Mr. Elder. The guy that listens to you more than you listen to me. Okay. I've listened to you. You're the guy that we follow. You are the man. I am the man. You are the man, I agree with that.

Starting point is 01:29:46 So we are the man. Oh, by the way, we don't have to agree on that. We've agreed on that for four years, okay, but here's the part, the other thing that he does, which I like that parodid and that trump did and that Vivek did the fatherlessness bringing it in, but I'll tell you what it is. It's creating an issue that no one is talking about.

Starting point is 01:30:09 Okay, Trump came up and said, the wall, border, rapist, drugs, you're like, whoa, whoa, no one's talking about that, the shock factor, right? And everybody else is like, I think the number one issue we have is the economy. I think the number one issue we have is the economy. I think the number one issue we have is healthcare. I think when... Can and they go around with it.

Starting point is 01:30:29 This guy's coming with a shock factor saying, nope, here's the number one issue. I'm here to deal with it. You're asking like he didn't talk about the economy. But those are not as number one though. Those are not as number one. I think the assumption was that Donald Trump as a businessman knows more about the economy

Starting point is 01:30:41 than other people. And he does. I didn't say he doesn't. My point is, you've got to assume that he was elected in part because of his attitude about the economy and the something that people thought he was gonna, look, he's another thing about Donald Trump I've never seen before.

Starting point is 01:30:56 And my argument is he's a unique species. That's what I'm saying. I was with him in Cleveland in 2016. We campaigned together at Black Church. And I got to speak to him about 15 minutes privately. And I said with him in Cleveland in 2016. We can't paint together at Black Church. And I got to speak to him by 15 minutes privately. And I said to him, there's one thing you should apologize for. He said, I know what you're gonna say. It's what I said about John McCain.

Starting point is 01:31:15 I said, I couldn't care less. I said, you said that George W. Bush lied us into the Iraq war. I said, I know that you argue that you didn't support the war. Fair enough, but nobody lied. I've talked to, to, uh, kind of, Lisa Rice, I've talked to Colin Powell. They said the intel was wrong. Nobody lied.

Starting point is 01:31:33 I said the British were shooting at the, uh, the, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the Iraqis were shooting at the British and American planes patrolling the southern and no fly zones. Uh, Saddam Hussein was stealing from the offer food program. We know he had chemical weapons because he used them on the courage, used them on the Persians. He tried to assassinate President George Herbert Walker Bush. There were lots of reasons in the resolution

Starting point is 01:31:56 that was signed by the Senate and the House on why we went to war. Nobody lied. And I said, that's what Ted Kennedy's been saying. Week after, week after week after week We were told lie after life. I said you are giving the left Talking point to the media. It's not right. And he went like this However, he never said it again

Starting point is 01:32:18 As the Donald Trump wave apologizing is to never say the same wrong-headed thing twice my point is he got away with it He got away with excess Hollywood. Who else, you know, that could survive scandals like that? Nobody. So I'm just saying, I've never seen anything like it. So when you go on, we need this, we need this. You're trying to reverse engineer Donald Trump. It's Donald Trump.

Starting point is 01:32:36 I got a technical question for you. Almost everybody that runs for office has, you know, I'm hoping maybe you have a different insight than we do because we're not in the world, you're in, you've been in it for a while. Everybody that runs or becomes president, there's stories about women that come out. You've had that, Trump's had it, Reagan's had it,

Starting point is 01:32:56 how come there's no stories of women? Kennedy? Can I finish my point? Tom, like seriously. You got everybody's time. He's always like this. Tom is always like this. He's the famous guy

Starting point is 01:33:06 He's had two vaults. Yeah. Okay, so once again, I'll start from the beginning before Tom kind of have to jump in So why is it that every candidate that I think I'm is the Wikipedia We call him. He's not done yet. He has to do three more these until I ask my question So wait for can I just do it Tom? Okay. Why is it that every man that's run for office or became a president has that women from the past that's come up? You've had it.

Starting point is 01:33:31 Trump's had, I think, one only from the past. Obviously, I'm very sarcastic. You got 12. You got, you got, we got Clinton, Biden, Bush. You got, how come there's no woman from Obama's past? Richard Nixon. How come there's no one from Obama's past Richard Nixon how come there's no one from Obama's But Richard Nixon's past either well back in the days. There was no social media. So I'm going more like 50's right

Starting point is 01:33:51 So why is it why it 40 years? Why is it that Obama there's no woman from his past? Are you think he just didn't have game where you think like you know, girl happy that secrets? He's a good-looking guy He has a good shot left handed. Yeah, I've seen him make the shot from the pattern from the side. Very handsome. Although he didn't start. He didn't start in the high school. He did not. He did not start in the high school.

Starting point is 01:34:11 Well, why do you think, like, is he that devout of a Christian? Maybe it's because there's a level of devotion to... Since we're talking about Obama, let me get this off my chest. My disappointment with Obama is nothing to do with any of this obviously. It's that he ran as the guy that people thought was a guy who was in Boston in 2004. I was

Starting point is 01:34:32 in the arena when he gave the introduction speech to John Kerry. There's no blue America, there's no red and blue. It's one of the phenomenal speech. There's no black America, there's no red images. Yeah. Yeah. I tried to my producer and I said, you know, all he said was a bunch of platitudes, but he said him well, this guy's going to run for president someday. So Obama decides to run before he even knew where the bathroom was. And he said, a black church, and he's talking about how much racism he thinks there is in America. And this is really important. He said, the modes of generation,

Starting point is 01:35:06 referring to the generation of Martin Luther King, has gotten us, quote, 90% of the way there, close quote. He said, my generation, he referred to, his generation as the Joshua generation, has to get us at additional 10%. And I thought that was reasonable, because there was a Fox opinion poll, 2002. 8% of Americans think that's a possibility

Starting point is 01:35:23 that Elvis is still alive. So you have to write off around 10% of the American people. So what he was really saying, in my opinion, is we've gotten to the point now where MLK's dream of people evaluating you based on content of character with a different skin, it's pretty much been realized. He was on 60 minutes, this is when he was running. He hadn't yet caught up with Hillary, but he was coming otherwise, he wouldn't have put him on there. And Steve Crawff, the correspondent, said,

Starting point is 01:35:47 Senator, if you don't win, will it be because of racism? And I'm at home and I said, let's see how he answered this question. Let's see if he gets a victim-cred answer along the lines of what Al Shurman would say or Jesse Jackson would say both of whom ran for president and claim they didn't get there because of racism. And Obama said, no, if I don't win, it will be because I've not articulated a vision for him. That's exactly what I said for him. I said, I'm not gonna vote for you.

Starting point is 01:36:10 Tax been regulated, Obamacare, but good for you. He won with 53% of the vote. He walked into the Oval Office third week of January, 2009, with 70% approval. How? Then all of a sudden people say, you know, what my tax has raised. I want Obamacare. No, you know, what my tax is raised?

Starting point is 01:36:29 I want to obama care. No, they said the very least he's going to put a knife forking in the notion that America remains systemically racist. Both blacks and whites thought race relations would improve when he walked into the Oval Office. When he left, both blacks and whites thought it got worse. Because for eight years, he played race card at the race card at the race card From Cambridge police act is stupidly To if I had a son he looked like Trayvon to embracing black lives matter to saying that racism is in America's DNA They're having an ag Eric Holder who accused People that wanted voter ID of engaging in pre-nicious racism. He he had outsharp it in the White House over 70 times He played the race card time and time and time again.

Starting point is 01:37:05 That's not the person that the American people thought they hired. And that's my problem with him. He's made things worse. Here's the guy that had every advantage. Best prep school in the state of Hawaii becomes the president of Harvard Law Review, charmed existence, and here he is playing the race card. That's not what the American people thought they hired when they voted for him in 2000. So, why?

Starting point is 01:37:27 So, so, so, so, let me power. Power and vote. He wants to get black people angry because black people will go in there like limmings and pull that lever 90%, 95% of the Democratic party. Because of social justice and equity, whatever they all that mean. Do you think his idea is that his ideas or somebody that's put it in his ear because of some stuff from the past hurting his legacy? Do you think it's him motivate? He wanted to get reelected.

Starting point is 01:37:51 And he knew that if he... It's simple as that. It's simple as that. You think Democrats, you think Nancy Pelosi really believes America is systemically racist. I mean, do you think James Clyburn really believes that? Do you think Obama really believes that? B. S. He knows it's not true, but he also knows he wants to win elections. You know, win elections by telling black people,

Starting point is 01:38:08 look, think about crime, think about schools, think about jobs, no, win elections. This guy over here is a racist. This guy over here wants to hold you back. This guy over here wants to oppress you. That's why we got this nonsense about reparations. By the way, notice how Obama hasn't said Jack about reparations. His whole career, he opposed him. Where is he? is he he's been quiet say something he's been very

Starting point is 01:38:28 quiet he doesn't want to get canceled he knows he's going to get canceled and he wants to he wants to remain relevant he hasn't said a damn thing about this movement towards reparations even though he's opposed him his whole career and and like i think we're we're pat was going he's made things worse i i i i agree i think I think I didn't plan the race card the whole time to go in. But anyway, what Pat I think was getting into was about the whole, the, the girl, and he, no female, um, scandal or anything like that. Recently, I mean, last podcast, we talked about a Tucker, Tucker Carlson. I know, I know, I know where you were going with that. Yes. And there he's my question. Not going to go there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no passing lie detector tests, you know, signing out the David's, I don't care about his past. This is what I did with Obama. Why, what do you

Starting point is 01:39:29 think the motive is to come up? I mean, the guy's not getting money. The guy doesn't look well at all. What's the motive behind going on a platform like that and talk about? What's the motive behind Tucker interviewing him or the guy going on the platform to talk about? I'm more Tucker. What's Tucker's motivation? I think he thinks it's news. Really? I think he thinks it's the story that the media, I think his angle is the media were aware of this or could have been aware of this, it should have been aware of this, but they wanted to protect Barack Obama and they circled the way against around him. The way they did around Jeremiah Wright. Everyone Jeremiah Wright came out. Yeah. All of a sudden, the media is not talking about

Starting point is 01:40:04 this until the video came out with him saying, KKK United States, and then they had to talk about it. I'll just ask you direct. So I think that's what Tucker is saying, that this was a bombshell story. He probably wouldn't have been elected if this had been covered by the media. And it's an example of how biased the media are. I think that's what he said. I'll just ask you directly.

Starting point is 01:40:26 These guys both kind of, you know, don't say these guys. No, no, no, no, don't do that. I'm don't do that. You ask the question. Don't say these guys. I don't say you guys ask the question. Do I care whether Obama might be gay? Do you think Obama's gay?

Starting point is 01:40:37 I have no idea, don't care. Yeah. What I care about is what I said earlier that he ran promising to be a racial uniner and divided us and played the race car time and time again. Racism is in America's DNA. Are you effing kidding me? The first time Gallup asked why people they vote for

Starting point is 01:40:53 a black president was in the 50s and only around 30% said yes. Not only about 4% said they wouldn't vote for a black person. So how does DNA change like that? That's what I'm angry about him for. He was a fraud. He was a fraud on racial conciliation,

Starting point is 01:41:10 a huge fraud on that. The rest of the stuff, the tax has been irregularity, I knew that. But you don't walk into the overall of 70% approval rating. Who are you talking about right now? You talk about that. Oh, Bob, Bob, yeah.

Starting point is 01:41:20 He's a fraud. But Larry, as much as you're saying, you don't care, there's a huge percentage of the Republican base that actually believes this and actually believes that Michelle Obama isn't actually a man, they call her big mic. So I know that this is not your thing. I don't know if you might call through that.

Starting point is 01:41:36 Stop, Larry, I just don't know. I used to go to the known. Before I came to value team in four years ago, I never even heard that Michelle Obama's a man. I didn't think that Obama was gay, but I've heard this multiple times, hundreds of times. You must have heard this. And what do you say to that?

Starting point is 01:41:50 What do you say to the Republican base who thinks that Michelle Obama's a freaking man and Obama's gay? If the Republican base thought that Michelle Obama was every bit as graceful and as attractive as Jackaline, Kennedy, they still wouldn't have voted for him because of his policy. So it doesn't matter.

Starting point is 01:42:05 It's inconse-punch. I don't know, Larry. I think you're spurting this one. I know I'm not. Well, because some people are saying this, like I, I, and Pat kind of brought it up, but I've been hearing this too, Larry, that the reason Tucker brought this up

Starting point is 01:42:19 and had this guy speak is because, and how many times have we heard it, Pat, from how many people that Newsom's out, Newsom he's not going to run yet the common thing is a possibility but that Michelle Obama is going to come in and say hey listen we I did to save this everybody's all messed up nobody's really running Joe Biden's dying in front of a new think talkers motivation is to is to make sure that Michelle Obama doesn't become president they're saying I didn't say what I'm saying is people have been saying online that this is one of those, okay, if she does announce that she's running, they're going to have to address this fact because nobody, I've never seen anybody ask Obama on

Starting point is 01:42:52 camera. Okay. Hey, just really quick. Are you gay? Have you ever done any gay homosexual activities? Never once. And they've been silent since the day that this came out Larry Sinclair or Michelle Obama took a flight to Spain to hung out with friends and Brock didn't go with her. Just say. Hillary Clinton was accused by Anita Broadrick of having that team around of threatening her when after one Anita Broadrick said she'd been raped by Bill Clinton. Yes. I've not heard anybody ask Hillary. Where that's where that's true or false. Yep. People think that Hillary Clinton has committed murder multiple times. I've heard that.

Starting point is 01:43:29 My point is that there are a lot of no fly zones. The media has, when it comes to protecting people on the left, and this is not uncommon. I couldn't care less where the Obama is gay. I couldn't care less whether or not Michelle is big Mike. I think Obama care, Obama cares in abomination. I think think what he did on race race relations set this country back. That's what I care about. Yeah, you're a policy guy. But that's the exact. If I asked Trump that he'd be like, yeah, he's probably gay. Yeah, Michelle's probably a man. And that's why he gets eyeballs. I don't think Trump would say that. Trump Trump even can see. Trump has

Starting point is 01:44:02 said way worse things about the way he even conceded that Obama was born here after spending money to to investigate all the verses of the he started the whole birth or well he was not I don't know if he did not start that he'll restarted that 2008 that's correct well bingo he promoted the hell out of it game change she started it uh if Cindy Cindy Blumenthal was her top aid he goes to the Maclatchy newspapers and says obama is not from here he was born in africa

Starting point is 01:44:29 uh... and a guy named james ash are you can look at up uh... took the uh... advice seriously put somebody on it and they track it down they found nothing nothing to it was he'll recall campaign that started everybody uh... soon started to but he did not he'll read it yeah but nobody knows that meaning like i think you're probably right Now they do millions of people now do. That's true. But everyone's like, I've got a service. If you did a poll right now, who started the birthplace claims, I would say 90% of people would say so many things about Donald Trump are just not true. For example, in November 2016, I think was around November before the election anyway, Bloomberg

Starting point is 01:45:00 poll, the number one reason that likely voters gave for not liking Donald Trump is that they felt he had demeaned a disabled reporter, mocked a disabled reporter. He did not. We're talking about a guy named Serge Kableleski wrote for one of the big newspapers. And Donald Trump publicly said that people cheered the fall of the Twin Towers. And nobody could find a story.

Starting point is 01:45:20 And then he found a story and they went up to Serge Kableleski, wrote the story and said, did you see this? He goes, well, you know, I sort of, well, I wasn't sure there was that many. And so Donald Trump mocked him in a town hall. He wasn't mocking his disability. And by the way, the guy doesn't go like this, which is what Donald Trump did. The guy has an atrophy arm because it's

Starting point is 01:45:38 go like this. And Donald Trump did not mock him. But that's what people believe. There's a website called Catholic Four Trump where Donald Trump is not mock him, but that's what people believe. There's a website called Catholic Four Trump, where Donald Trump is used as gesture to mock himself to mock a neighbor body, the general. It's what Donald Trump does because it's a stand up comic. It's not true. Just as it's not true that Donald Trump said there were good Nazis and bad Nazis on both sides regarding Charlottesville.

Starting point is 01:45:57 Charlottesville, even Jake Tapper two years later. So, you know, when back looked at it, he wasn't saying that he was saying there were good people and bad people on both sides of the debate on whether or not there should be a Confederate monument in the public square. But that's what a lot of people feel. So and the other big thing that people think about Donald Trump is that he was leading an insurrection on January 6th when, as you pointed out, what part of, I want you to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard, don't you understand?

Starting point is 01:46:25 So many of the things that people hate Donald Trump's guts for are simply flat out false, including that he started the birth movement. He did not. Well, this goes to the bigger question about the media. I actually agree with you. Can you actually verify the Hillary Clinton birth or versus Trump?

Starting point is 01:46:38 Because there's a lot of people that believe Trump started. In fact, in the video of Morning Scarborough, Morning Joe show, where guy named John Howellman co-authored the book called Game Changes on. Yeah, John Howellman. John Howellman. Can you find that? And Harold Ford is on the panel. And somebody mentions that Hillary started. Well, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. And Joe Scarborough turns to John Howellman

Starting point is 01:47:00 and said, well, John, you wrote the book Game Ch change, what's the truth? He said, I'm confirming the, the, the notion that was Hillary Clinton that started it. John Hyman said that. Well, it's only 10 years to find that clip if you could rob. If you can somehow, uh, yeah, yeah, that's it. Joe right there. Joe Obama was them talk started with Hillary. 2015 right there. Right.

Starting point is 01:47:22 And then this talks about the birth there as well with Hillary. Can we play this? Well, the whole birthday thing is Obama's from Africa. Yeah. Can you can you get audio or no Rob? I mean, you see that interview? Do I mean the Clinton game? I do great question. I mean, for some of the stuff that was stunning, it was stunning. She is asked on face the nation about who with the state, she said the State Department authorized it. No, there was Dickerson didn't follow up with a question who with the State Department.

Starting point is 01:47:50 Well, that's because the campaign did not allow that. You know that this interview was set up so that certain questions on policy were required for a certain amount of time. And then they could go into emails for a certain amount of time. And then they would leave me. Can you pass over a little bit to see if this is the one, Rob? Just kind of fast. It was textiles.

Starting point is 01:48:05 John Hanley. I can see very rich. Now listen, you've said he is by the clinton. That is the terrible. I'll back to the little. Go back one. That's it. It started.

Starting point is 01:48:15 This started with Hillary Clinton. And it was 20 seconds. Well, back 20 seconds. Go back 20 seconds. You're right there. That's good. First spreading the rumors. OK, go back 10 more seconds.

Starting point is 01:48:24 This was the one. Yeah, right. I guess I want to say one other thing too. 10 more seconds. This was the one. Yeah, right. One of the thing too. We got it was rich this weekend. I guess we have to get our dicks in on Hillary Clinton here because it is I I thought we're going to get through a

Starting point is 01:48:32 second without talking about her. She's been but for Hillary Clinton to come out and criticize anybody for spreading the rumors about Barack Obama. When it all started on 60 minutes when it all started with her and her can grow passing things around in the Democratic primary rich now listen he says he is the

Starting point is 01:48:57 Republicans are wrong for doing what they're doing it started this started with Hillary Clinton and it was good for morning Joe for saying this. I'm shocked back in 2008. I'm really I don't even know that is the terrible thing. I don't know but I don't but but Micah you can't tell me to stop when you are when the two of you are making comments. I mean didn't you have a if there's a basis an actual evidentiary basis for what you're sending out of it were in that, that there was a spread in 2008. Spreads way in 2008.

Starting point is 01:49:28 With Barack Obama, how do you keep that? With Barack Obama, may not be a Christian. We should ask Kyle to this. That's John Kyle. I only wait. I don't recall that, but if you're telling me that was the case, I just don't recall. John, I was the case.

Starting point is 01:49:41 Thank you. It was the case. John, I didn't go in for just a minute and not actually saying that. I was the case. It was the case. It was the case. It was the case. Didn't she go in 60 minutes and not actually saying no? He says he is. I'm offering my request. What was that? I'm affirming the Scarborough versus in ski.

Starting point is 01:49:54 Do you know that the shirt? She had a morning shift interview. Was that thing that rigged? I don't know anything about. I have no knowledge whatsoever of what happened. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. Wow. And John Dickson. I don't know what happened on that either, but you know it call that a week earlier. She went on Andrew Mitchell and it

Starting point is 01:50:08 was all emails all the time for the first 20 minutes of that interview. So she has that interview. You can stop running. So you were right. Of course, I'm so. You know the more importantly, I named James Asher ASHER

Starting point is 01:50:24 who worked from a clatchy pulled that up said that Sydney Blumenthal Approached him and said Obama is not from here And he tracked it down and found nothing to out Got it and Sydney Blumenthal was so is Hillary's hatchet man You know, it's interesting about that is that was in what year Rob 15 that was 2015 This was the year. I literally used to watch morning Joe and Joe Scarborough and meek of Brazinski John Hyalman and everyone that's on there literally every morning for two straight years okay and this was when Joe Scarborough was actually a friend of Donald Trump so was meke of Brazinski they were at he was at their wedding Joe Scarborough used to be a Republican

Starting point is 01:50:58 correct yeah yeah and used to demean our sharp and sign a resolution introduce a resolution calling our sharp and a race husthustling demagogue. And now they kiss each other's butt. Well, he's on a show with a bass. It's on Asia. But this is my point. The Reverend. Rep, yeah.

Starting point is 01:51:13 Thank you. This is my point in a few short years. From 2016 to the Trump election, to basically our day, the media has completely gone to different sides. Agreed. Completely gone to different sides. So here's my question. The media has completely gone to different sides. Agreed, agreed. Completely gone to different sides. So here's my question.

Starting point is 01:51:26 The media has already done this. If there's one thing I've learned since Trump has been elected office, that the deep state is real. Absolutely. And they do not want Donald Trump to be president. They don't want him in 2016. They don't want him in 2020. They did everything in their power to get him out of office.

Starting point is 01:51:40 And they're gonna do everything in their power to do it again in 2024. So if he is elected, which is 50, 50 at this point, they're gonna do everything in their power to be little his candidacy or his presidency. He's a racist, he's a white person. Russia, this, that, the other, they're gonna play clips of January 6th.

Starting point is 01:51:58 It's just gonna happen over and over and over again. How does someone like Trump combat the media, big tech, Hollywood? How does he even go against that? At this point. The good news is, I said I was a cautious pessimistic, but the good news is Donald Trump Republicans now have almost half the Hispanic vote. Donald Trump got elected with 8% of the black vote in 2016.

Starting point is 01:52:19 When he ran in 2020, he got 12%. That's a 50% increase. He got 20% of the black male vote. People are waking up. They're seeing the nonsense. And they're seeing their pocketbook. They go to the gas station, they go to the store. They're paying a lot more for the same stuff.

Starting point is 01:52:35 And you can call Donald Trump all sorts of names if you want. All I know is I'm paying a lot more for gas. I'm paying a lot more for chicken, for bacon, for milk, for egg for cheese than I did before. Yeah, but that's grassroots. How do you handle the top? Okay. There's bottom up and then top down.

Starting point is 01:52:49 So the top down, the media, Hollywood, big tech, everything, even the, clearly the deep state, how does he combat that? Because the fear is just going to be this antagonistic, vindictive relationship. The good news, the trust in the media has never been lower. And that's because Donald Trump is popularized expression fake news and disinformation you you you you combat it by telling the truth and by standing your ground which is why people love Donald Trump so much he's a fighter so it sounds like even though you're running for president he has your vote if he becomes a

Starting point is 01:53:20 nominee I would rather be the nominee and I'll ask them to be my running mate. By the way, by the way, even though we just verified by Democrats that the birther was started by Hillary, can you shake, can you show the pole how it's doing, Rob? I'm just curious, you know, because some people want to believe this. They have to believe this because they can't handle the truth from the movie. You can't handle the truth. Okay, go to the poll if you can't rob, just to tell us if you can show us how to poll is doing percentage-wise.

Starting point is 01:53:53 Even Hillary wants a tack dollar Trump for starting the racist rumor that don't. Zoom in a little bit so we can see it. Zoom in a little bit. 24% still believe it's Trump. 25%. Even though you just showed, like you just showed, like eight minutes ago. 24% still believe it's Trump. Yeah. 25%. Even though you just showed, like you just showed, like eight minutes ago, spending,

Starting point is 01:54:10 that's our poll, right? That's our poll. 76% believe that. Yeah, for sure. But think about 25% are like. But what you're trying to say is imagine a poll of people that are not watching the show. Oh, God.

Starting point is 01:54:20 Can you find a poll of people asking who started the birth thing? There's a regular poll. I assure you, the majority of Americans asking who started the birth through thing? I'm so regular. Well, I assure you the majority of Americans, especially Democrats, believe that Donald Trump started it. And then why he's looking for that layer? I think something that you said that there's no question Donald Trump promoted it. Of course, but starting it, he did not start it.

Starting point is 01:54:35 Well, sometimes they say you don't want it to be first. You need to be second. So like look at my space, defunct, look at Facebook. They're trillion dollar company. And like Trump was second. He was the man. By the way, you have to give Hillary credit because she's the first one that said, it's a, you know, the election was a fraud.

Starting point is 01:54:52 First one that said Bertha, first one, yeah, Rochelle. Wait this woman. Yeah. Well, email like she's a master of the subject. 30,000 emails. Poothgaunt. Oh, how is she pays for the dossier? Nothing. But I'm a later secretary of state, Larry Eldon.

Starting point is 01:55:08 Because he knows she's a killer. He knows what's up. Ghost or Anita Broderick and says, you better keep your mouth shut or else. Nothing. And later, how is she so untouchable? Can you explain that to me? I don't get well, she did lose the election against Donald Trump in 2016 because her unfavorable ratings were as high if not higher

Starting point is 01:55:26 than Donald Trump's, it kind of offset each other. Wow, but I'm saying, how is she that embedded with the FBI and the DOJ and the, she can literally kill someone and get away with it, literally. Allegedly. Allegedly, literally. Well, I'm not going to concede about that part, the uh... yeah of course i mean that the dnc wasn't was uh... was in fix for her donna was a one gave her campaign questions remember i mean debate debate

Starting point is 01:55:50 questions to make sure she was gonna win the uh... when the nomination uh... look there's a conspiracy of interest with the media democratic party big-tech hollywood academia and work against and and they're and they're united against Republicans. They believe Republicans are bad people or evil people only care about the rich.

Starting point is 01:56:09 That if you are pro-life, you're anti-female. If you want strong borders, you're racist. That's how they feel. And that's what we're up against. Larry, last question, because I know we get a wrap up. Your friend, your good buddy, your compadre, Charlemagne the God. Yes. You were, we mentioned him a little bit earlier. You were on his show, the Breakfast Club, massive audience, you know, massive black audience. Breaking news, I just found out you're black.

Starting point is 01:56:33 That's crazy. I just found that out. What? What? It's just what? Amazing. Respect. What? You were on about two weeks ago

Starting point is 01:56:40 and he did a reaction video and he so politely called you, the donkey of the day, and he went, am on you brother. So, you know, he's got a huge voice in the black community. Obviously, what do you say to him? What do you say to the black community that they think you're the donkey, when you're just like, look, personal power,

Starting point is 01:56:57 personal self-improvement accountability. Well, he called me the donkey of the day as I recall because I didn't make the debate stage and I complained about it. And I was on his show saying that there's no systemic racism in America, and here Larry is complaining about the systemic way he did not make the debate stage. That's what he said.

Starting point is 01:57:16 To me, that made no sense. And frankly, I believe he called me the donkey of the day because if you look at the comments, and I have a friend who read every single one of them, and these are his people, 85% of them thought he got his butt kicked. Yeah, so would you go back again? Oh, absolutely.

Starting point is 01:57:29 In fact, I'm tentatively scheduled to go back again. How do you win over not only Charlemagne, but the people who think like Charlemagne, because there's millions of them. Tell the truth. Yeah, tell the truth. But you know, I've been doing this for 40 years, what you guys are doing, been for 40 years.

Starting point is 01:57:46 And I've noticed something, when somebody calls up and I always took pride in taking people to disagree with me, no one in the middle of a conversation is gonna go, you know what, you're right. Yeah. I've had any piphany. It's the person who's driving, who's listening that I'm talking to.

Starting point is 01:58:02 And so I know that Charlemagne, the guy's not gonna go, you know, Larry, I never thought about this, and you're right, there's no systemic racism, right? I need to rethink my assumptions, he's not gonna do that. But his listeners will. And if you look at the comments, many of them have.

Starting point is 01:58:13 Not saying they suddenly become card-carrying, Trump supporting Republicans, but they're beginning to rethink their assumptions. They know fatherlessness is a big problem in systemic racism. They see the school, they see the crime. Well, give you one quick story, go for it. When. They see the school, they see the crime. Give you one quick story. Go for it.

Starting point is 01:58:28 When I was in high school, there was a guy named Gilbert. And he was a, if he kind of student, he wasn't a bad student, but he wasn't somebody that was academically oriented as I was. I told you, my dad, you still have a cafe and I didn't like working for him.

Starting point is 01:58:42 So when my dad and I stopped talking to each other 15 years old, I decided to get me a job in the summer with the county, LA County. You had to go downtown and take this big test. It was to be 300 or 400 people. This is in the late 60s. Most of the people there were white. And one of the guys taking the test was this guy named Gilbert from my high school.

Starting point is 01:59:01 And I saw him and it was a three hour exam, math, reading comprehension, and stuff like that. And then you had to go out in the hall and then they grade the paper and you come back in. So I see Gilbert, he goes, hey Larry, what's up? I said, what's going on, Gilbert? He said, watch out, they're gonna get us. I said, who's gonna get us?

Starting point is 01:59:19 He said the white people who are grading these exam. Yeah. I said, they're gonna get us. He said, watch them flunk us. So we go back in, about 300 these exams. I said, they're going to get us, he said, watch them flunk us. So we go back in, about 300 people, as I said, they call out your name if you are to remain. Meaning you pass the test. And then they would give you a bunch of options for jobs.

Starting point is 01:59:37 And if you didn't get your name called, you had a leave. So I'm sitting there calling off the names. Of course, my name was called, as were the names of a number of black people. And then you hear a screeching of chairs as if people weren't called get up to leave. So Gilbert walks right by me and he says, as he sees me sitting there, obviously,

Starting point is 01:59:54 my name was one of those who was called, who was named. He said, what did I tell you? How can somebody make an argument that white people are going to flunk black people? I'm black. I'm sitting there. I'm not flunk. And he walks by me and he says, what did I tell you? This is the mentality.

Starting point is 02:00:13 This is a sick, this is an illness. And a lot of black people have that. We have to raise our game. I remember the dream team in the Olympics because we began losing matches. We can't stand up. College kids anymore and expect to win. So the dream came crushes everybody. Well, now we still send the best. We don't crush people anymore. It's competitive now because the rest of the world raised their

Starting point is 02:00:36 game. They didn't lower the hoop. They didn't widen the hoop. We need to raise our game as black people. If you look at a graph of how much homework a black kid does every night versus the white kid versus the Asian kid, it's like this. If you don't put in the time, you're gonna get the results. We have to stop bitching and moaning and whining about systemic racism and raise our ethane game. That's what I'm all about. Larry Elder that is Larry Bobble.

Starting point is 02:00:58 What's the website to go to for your campaign? Is there a website? Larry Elder.com. Can we put that link below please? And my book is Asgoles, California, my mission to rescue the Golden State and save the nation. As you can see, my goals are modest. We got all of that below Larry. Once again, thank you for coming out, Kang. We got another podcast. I believe this Thursday. Yes, Candace Owens will be here this Thursday,

Starting point is 02:01:20 looking forward to that as well. By the way, when we're shut up, I've got a coaching tree. Steven Miller won a Donald Trump's top eights. I first had him on my radio show when he was 14 years old. He was a student at Santa Monica High. And I thought he was brilliant. And over the years, I had him on the show 69 times. Reason I know the number is because he counted them.

Starting point is 02:01:37 So we're number but yeah. Yeah. Candace Owens refers to me as her mentor. She wrote the for it to my book, Asgol's California. I wrote the for it to her book, Blackout.'s California, wrote the four book, blackout. The guy that's the editor-in-chief of Wrightbart news, his name is Alex Marlow. I gave him his first job in conserving radio, Michelle Malkin. First time she's everyone radio or TV, she was on my

Starting point is 02:01:56 radio program. Ben Shapiro has publicly credited me with getting him into the into this business and this field. Andrew Bightbart has publicly credited me with inspiring him into this business, this field, Andrew Bight Park, it's publicly credited me with inspiring him to get into this field. There's a syndicated cartoonist named Franco and Tony O'Branco. I like his work, I went to my syndicator, I said, it's brilliant, because we don't like him.

Starting point is 02:02:16 He's brilliant, we don't like him. So over the years, I was sending the best ones, he now has a syndicated deal with the creator syndicate. So I'm very proud that I've been able to influence a lot of these young Respect young people. Yeah, respect you know, and by the way And we can add names that you forgot to bring up that's many other names that I brought or the broom and a bunch of other people that we can Out to that as well, but it's great. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your voice. You doing a great job

Starting point is 02:02:38 It's very necessary. Please continue. Thank you. Gang have a great one. We'll do it again on Thursday. Take care, bye, bye, bye, bye. you

PBD Podcast - Larry Elder | PBD Podcast | Ep. 303

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