PBD Podcast - Lauren Chen | PBD Podcast | Ep. 284

Episode Date: July 11, 2023

In this Episode, Lauren Chen joins the podcast. Lauren is a well-known YouTuber who is known for political and social commentary. She has taken several controversial positions in the past and will discuss the most important stories taking place today on the podcast. Follow Lauren Chen on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3rlGO6n Subscribe to Lauren's YouTube Channel "Mediaholic": https://bit.ly/44ibYdq Subscribe to Lauren's YouTube Channel "Lauren Chen": https://bit.ly/3NNtAGV Get Your Tickets for The Vault 2023 NOW ⬇️⬇️ The BIGGEST EVENT in VT History! *TOM BRADY, MIKE TYSON & PATRICK BET-DAVID on one stage!* https://thevaultconference.com/ Visit Our Website! https://valuetainment.com/ Subscribe to:  @ValuetainmentMoney   @ValuetainmentComedy   @bizdocpodcast  Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

I know this life meant for me. Yeah, why would you plan on good life when we got that David value payment given values contagious this world on your panels we can't no value to hate it. I didn't run home.

You look what I've become. I'm the I'm the one. Okay, Gang, it's been, I think it's fair to say, it's been a minute. Been a minute. More like 12 minutes. 12 minutes. Right since June 29th, last time we did a podcast,

everybody was out. Adam was literally out, but some of us were out and we're back. And the first podcast, we got a special guest for you. Someone who, if you're on social, you see her talking, making her arguments and everybody in the market saying, you gotta hear what she's gotta say. You gotta hear what she's gotta say.

So finally, we had a chance to have her on the podcast. The great Lauren Chinnest, great to have you on the podcast. I'm so happy to be here. Thank you so much for having me. Yes, of course. It's a surreal experience. Thank you so much for helping us realize Yes, of course. It's a real experience. Thank you so much for helping us realize that Vinnie took on his French. We didn't know this years ago,

very impressive that you were able to get that out of that. Merci. Merci beaucoup. So we're going to talk about a lot of current events topics. In a minute, you know, you'll make the introduction of who you are for some of the people that maybe don't know who you are. Guys, we got a lot of things to talk about. Jamie Dimeen gave a speech this last week in an interview that some

people say, wow, this guy sounds presidential. If you haven't seen it, we'll play it for you. Even Bill Ackman, billionaire said, huge loss if Jamie Diamond doesn't run for president. We'll talk about Janet Yellen's trip to Beijing, as well as what happened with Trump when he went to UFC and the way he shook hands with joe rogan a lot of people are saying that podcast is possibly coming up very soon will talk about that rama swanney closes and on the santis as trump dominates the geopie poll this is the hill fourteen promises trump has made in his campaign for seconds from cnn maria barteroma confronts the santis in twenth Santas on 2024 campaign asking what happens to your

campaign and his answer and laugh reveals a lot. And then outside of that Joe Biden, what is the optimal time for Biden to drop out? It doesn't matter what it is, whether it's the Hill, whether it's the Atlantic saying step aside Joe Biden, they want him replaced by somebody else we'll talk about that. This past on 4th of July, I don't know what you guys were doing, but in this one house, I think it's a white house.

They found some white stuff in the white house. It's just kind of probabry. Weird, weird. It's not a greenhouse, it's a white house. It's a white house. It makes sense. We're gonna find that Vinny maybe has some insight on what happened with Hunter Biden there.

And then Zuckerberg and Musk are going back and forth. And I don't know if you saw what Elon Musk tweeted last night, which is kind of crazy. Rob just told us about it. Maybe we'll show Elon Musk tweet last night about him and Zuck. Biden says war would Russia must end before NATO can consider membership with Ukraine in an interview with your guy. I know you got some thoughts on that. Freed.

And then we have the movie that came out sound of freedom. But at the same time CNN talking heads are now saying that this was the anti child sex traffic and movie sounds of freedom is created out of bogus statistics and QAnon concepts. You have to hear this person on CNN talking about it. And Rolling Stone comes out trashing this movie while supporting cuties. And at the same time, an article comes out a couple months ago talking about Rolling Stone's editing and chief spiked reporting on friend getting arrested for child porn.

So where is that's a little bit confusing when you're doing some? Anyways, we have a lot of things to cover here on stories. But before we get started, Lauren, if you don't mind taking a moment and sharing with the audience, your background. Sure. So I'm currently a YouTuber, content creator,

Blades TV host, TPUSA contributor, but I started, gosh, what was that? Seven years ago, maybe just posting videos on YouTube, just anonymously for fun. Definitely didn't want my face out there at the time because I wanted to be able to work, which I think the ship has sailed on me having a job outside of what I do now just because of all the things

that I've said over the years. But what did you do? So I was actually doing human resources. A Char, really? A Char, right? What type of company were you doing HR? It was for a consulting company. So it wasn't really hiring. It was more strategic HR, human capital type of thing,

which I still find interesting, but it's obviously very different. And especially, I'm not necessarily politically correct. So when people hear that they're really HR, it's like not the type you're thinking of. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be the type to write anybody up, but I'm a young woman and I was just kind of feeling like my peers, especially, were having one very, very

specific viewpoint, radical feminism, shove down their throats. And I felt like it just wasn't representative of not only myself, but a lot of people out there. So that's kind of fun. What's interesting that you bring that up is that you were saying that you were started doing these videos

anonymously. Yes, and you didn't want to be known for this. This is this actually Very indicative of the the tweet you just did a couple days ago about yesterday I believe when you were the Bahamas I basically saying that people successful people people have made it in their life don't want to basically put their stuff out there Explain that to me. By the way, it's funny, you say this. Why do you think people are so scared to share their opinions? What do you think is causing this fear? I mean, I'll give my story of a guy. By the way, you should have met these guys.

These are your kind of guys. But why do you think people are so scared? Conservative Christians, great guys. They were Persian Jews from New York. Oh wow. Who knew how to party? Yeah, I was like, people right there. Shout out to them, you're not Persian.

So why do you think people are scared nowadays? Well, I mean, it's cancel culture. And it's kind of, it's been done to death. The issue everyone knows it's real now, but I mean, years and years ago, people were starting to realize that it was a thing. I mean, you have your social ostrac, you can be socially ostracized.

If you have the wrong opinion, this is especially true. If you are a younger generation, I mean, your peers are being indoctrinated, almost non-stop from, I mean, this is especially true. If you are a younger generation, I mean, your peers are being indoctrinated, almost nonstop from, I mean, the education system, especially if they're going to a college, media, social media. So I think a lot of people, they're looking at what happens when someone gets labeled a racist or sexist

or whatever it is and they're kind of weighing. Is it worth kind of speaking out if it means that I'm going to lose my friend group and I have had friends who are, I guess, no longer friends because of my beliefs. Is it worth being fired or having my job prospects, I guess, limited? Just to speak out about these issues and I think a lot of people are saying, no, not really. I'll just keep my mouth shut. I'll just kind of go with the flow, but we see where that's gotten us over the past few

years. Let me ask you, who were you in high school? At 10th grade, 11th grade. Who was Lawrence Hennon High School? Quiet. I was in the math club, played the flute and violin, so just a happening person. Happening person. Oh, no.

As a kid. Party here. So it's fair to say you were not part of the party animal, getting hammer. Well, actually, I skipped 10th grade also that right that should give you a little bit of an indication of what my social circle was Got it. So we're like a 4.3 GPA town fully Asian. Yeah, really Shout out to the tiger mom's out there. That was not the first grade I skipped you there. So really I also skipped nine So how would you want to graduate it? From high Really? I also skipped nine. So how were you when you graduated? From high school.

Nine years old. Nine years old. I didn't technically graduate high school because I was going back and forth through Canadian and American systems. But I finished with my bachelor's when I was 20. So. You finished with your bachelor's when you were 20.

Yeah, I love, I haven't bragged about high school for so long. This is a great, pretty impressive, man. Yeah. And you said, you said earlier, nobody ever even offered you drugs. Like people looked at and were like, nope, she's not just gonna say no.

She ain't cool enough. She ain't doing blogging. There's no hangout with Hunter Biden, that's not gonna happen. She's definitely not gonna be hanging out with her. So there's some why I said a question from his, is a following reason. So normally in school, you know who certain people are, and everyone's gonna find each other.

The party people are gonna find each other. The complainers are gonna find each other. The gangsters are gonna find each other. The bodybuilders are gonna find each other. The athletes's gonna find each other. The party people are gonna find each other. The complainers are gonna find each other. The gangsters are gonna find each other. The bodybuilders are gonna find each other. The athletes are gonna find each other. Christians are gonna find each other. Everybody finds each other, right? So if you were who you were in high school,

your friends that all of a sudden are saying, well, Lauren, you know, you're being a little too extreme with the stuff that you're saying seven years ago, was it a surprise to them that your opinions were what they were? I think so because especially if we're talking about women, women have the tendency to be very agreeable. And I think when you're taking a position

that's going against the mainstream, which if you are at all center, even center left nowadays is considered fringe or extreme, that is an unpopular position. That is anti-establishment. And I think a lot of women, especially like the nice girls that I was hanging out with, I never would have thought of them as extreme or radical. But I think because they are so prone to that agreeableness as Jordan Peterson would say,

it's just a lot easier to go with it to accept it, especially when you have these activists that are painting things like extreme feminism or the LGBT agenda. As just being tolerant and accepting, they're going to look at anyone who speaks out against that as extreme, confrontational, bigoted, you name it. Yeah, it's crazy. You say that. So we're in Bahamas this last weekend. We took a couple hundred people there, Vinnie, one night.

We laughed. You made us laugh for three hours straight. I had an ab workout by the time we were done that night. But we walk out of this restaurant and this one guy comes, he says, you're the Twitter guy. Another guy comes, he says, you're the TikTok guy. I'm like, I'm the TikTok guy. I don't even know, you know.

But the Twitter guy that I'm talking to, I said, tell me why you're saying I'm the Twitter guy. So I see your Twitter, you said, you should have me on your podcast. The guy says this to me, good looking, you know, Middle Eastern Jewish, we're in a $50,000 watch. And he says, you should have me on the podcast because we agree on a lot of things.

I'd love to kind of tell them what's really gone. So why don't you have a podcast? He says, oh no, no, I can't have a podcast. Why can't you have a podcast? He says, well, you know, because you know, business is gonna affect us. That's it, you're the problem. You're the reason why America is where it's at.

You are the absolute problem. And he grabs his wife, wife comes over. These are the two guys come over. Every one of them listens to you. So they know content, what we're doing, all this stuff. He says, yeah, he is, he's supposed to, you know, he's scared. He's dead. His friend is now joking with them.

All right. So I sat there and I said, so what are you scared of? Tell me actually what you're scared of. He says, what do I do? I mean, if I do in New York, I'm in New York. You don't find anything. You know, we're gonna do this and they're gonna do this and they're gonna do that. That's exactly the issue.

The three communities that I keep talking, I had a great conversation with Dave Smith. Last week we, a phenomenal call together about the three communities, the lazy and scared Republicans are ruining America. They do your thing libertarians are ruining America. And the tolerant Christians are ruining America. These three communities are all generally net positives to society. They contribute to society. They don't take, but they're ruining America

because they're sitting there saying, I don't want to kind of give my name, call that. I'd write about just be quiet and not say anything about it because what if I, the guy's like, But they're ruining America because they're sitting there saying, well, I don't want to kind of give my name. Call that. I'd write about just be quiet and not say anything about it because what if I, the guy's like, what, I might real estate business could take a hit. I say, your country could take a hit. Your kids could take a hit.

You're worried about the real estate business. But then again, it's a real valid fear that a lot of people are having nowadays. But even a guy asked a question on the tweet, he says, Pat, I'm an executive. I, if you go to, go to the other tweet product product is because this is a different tweet go back one. Guy asked a question. Go go go little lower. I think it's that one right there. Yeah. Guy asked the question go to the bottom on when the guy asked the question right there. My

response to me says pat. I saw your thoughts on a podcast and completely agree. However, it is a risk for many of us to speak up. We have bosses who don't agree with us and bills to pay. What do you recommend to combat that? I said, I totally understand there's risk for speaking up, but there's risk for staying silent as much bigger. However, there are creative ways for doing it. If you want to click on show more,

you can create a pseudonym to write blogs, a fictional character, a burner account that speaks up, a community Twitter account that without revealing it, you kind of like the lips of TikTok. There are many ways to push the envelope. The only thing I discourage you from doing is staying silent. So that's kind of what you're talking about.

Yeah, absolutely. And when I finally did reveal my face and eventually my name, it was all, it was freeing. Honestly, it was. It's sort of scary because you know, all right, I can't really work a mainstream job in HR if people at my wiki pages calling me a white supremacist and all these terrible things. White supremacists.

Yeah, yeah, I'm a white supremacy is very multiracial nowadays. Surprisingly diverse bunch, those. Oh yeah, working out now, apparently, if you work out too much, yeah. But you know what, you actually pat left out a part, not only were we at a dinner for three and a half hours and we came out, that interaction with this group, with especially with this guy, was like a 10 to 15 minute situation where he not even called them out. I mean, like an audience, it was like a town hall in the casino and it was Pat wasn't being quiet.

He was going on him. He was seeing the light and then his friends were showing up. Other people were showing up recognizing Pat And I think calling people out Pat was was not only like a good thing We need more people like that who mind you he has kids in the room He has enough crap going on where taking that time out in the middle of a casino on vacation to base I mean top pat it was pretty loud like I think we need more of that where it's like, hey, listen, you're not doing your part,

you're all freaking tall. It's a valid concern. It's a very valid concern. So one, we have to understand the level of, like a guy calls from Hollywood saying, hey, Pat, I fully agree with what you're doing. Obviously, I can't talk about it because if I do my community, I'm gonna get hurt.

I said, okay, career wise, it's okay. He says, what should I do? I said, do you have a few money if you're in Hollywood? I don't. I said, what matters more to you? Is this a bigger cause in your life than your love for Hollywood? He says, that's something I got a battle with. I said, I totally get it. You got to do what you got it. But nowadays, the movie, sound of freedom, which we'll talk about here in a minute, but I think you want to say something. No, I just want to give you kudos, but also kind of give a little, I don't want to say

pushback, but there's a different perspective. So I fully agree with what you're saying here about creating a pseudonym, or even if you don't feel comfortable putting yourself out there, there are avenues to express yourself. No doubt. I would say one of the things I love about doing this is I get to talk my shit, right, or wrong, I get to learn, I get to grow, I get to express myself that's the beauty of doing podcasts. What's interesting though is I did a Menect call.

Shout out to the team at Menect, everything's going awesome there. The guys I'm speaking with. The grots on 300 Menects, by the way. Thank you, it's great. It's awesome. Connect with us on Menect, PBD, Vincent, myself. We'll sign you up, Lauren.

But I have a call with this guy on Menect. And the whole conversation was he was like, my business has taken a 50% drop because I express myself too much. I'd like to discuss with, this is the question. I'd like to discuss with you on Menect what you think I should do. I said, all right, we get on a call to half hour call.

I'm not gonna put his name or anything out there. I said, so tell me about your business. Well, I'm in San Francisco, I'm in the medical field, and I work with a lot of high-profile people. I mean, he said some names. When I say high-profile, I mean very high-profile. Like, you'll know the names. And he goes, you know, I'm a right center, right guy,

I'm a maga guy, I'm a Trump guy, whatever. And he goes, I, in the medical field, I'm making a half a million dollars easily. And in the last year, my business has taken a 50% hit. He's like, I'm not making a quarter million dollars a year, just because the people that I surround myself with caught wind of my political beliefs, and they've like, one, two, three,

the names went out there. That's a valid question. And I said, and I said, wow, let me process this with you. And I said, let me ask you something, bro, do you have any political aspirations? No. Do you have any interest in doing a podcast or anything like that?

Zero. I go, then why are you pushing the envelope so much because it's costing you a quarter million dollars a year? It goes, that's exactly what I'm grappling with right now. I wanna say what's on my mind, but it's literally costing me hundreds of thousands of dollars. I go, but hold on, back up a second. Where do you live?

San Francisco. That's the problem. That's the problem. Are you planning on moving your business at all? No, like this is where I'm at. I go then, I don't know what you want me to tell you, bro, but is voicing your opinion worth a quarter million dollars a year? Only you can answer that.

He goes, yeah, not really. But I'm glad, this is circling back. I'm glad that you brought up alternative options that people can do. Yes, it's sad that if you express your thoughts and your beliefs, you could literally get canceled or lose clients or lose jobs or lose money, but that's the risk that we're at these days.

But is it sad though, because that's where I'm at. I mean, obviously I'm speaking from a position of privilege where I get to, like you said, speak my mind and I have people who support me. But if you're in this position, do you want clients who would otherwise hit your guts if they knew what you actually believed? Do you want to work for someone who thinks that you're this terrible person who's destroying the country?

Do you want friends who are only your friends because they actually agree with you? Because there are rich clients this guy could have in Nashville in Florida. He doesn't have to be there. And likewise, if you are someone who's wanting to do something to contribute to, I don't know, a little bit of the normalization of politically uncomfortable ideas, we should all be investing and spending money with people who share our values. We should stop supporting financially people who hate us or who are trying to transfer kids like with target or bud light because I think what we're finding increasingly is that for the longest time, things have only gone one way.

It's only people who are against the left that are afraid to speak out. The left doesn't have that same shame. You have celebrities who will tweet the most radically left wing things imaginable. They're still in movies. They're still in Disney and Marvel, whatever. But I mean, someone like Gina Carano says something that could potentially be a little bit critical of, I think, was COVID stuff. She's fired immediately.

Is that fair? No, that's not fair. So we need to start, I mean, enforcing the fact that we have our own values, we're not going to be ashamed with them. We're going to support people with like minds. If that means moving, maybe that's what you have to do. So many people are doing that now, because I think a lot of people

are just tired of being afraid all the time. It's a very valid conversation. A lot of people are having it. That's great feedback. But there's a couple of things to be thinking about. So one is, okay, so if I'm living in San Francisco and I wanna stay there, like this guy wants to see the...

For some reason, I'm not mad at him. For some of that, what is the existence? Yeah, okay, but but the PC's in the street. It's quaint. Yeah, very quaint. Very romantic. When you're going out with your wife and oh, baby, I stepped in a water beautiful. Oh, I guess to be clear, he's in Silicon Valley,

which is what? Half hour outside. Silicon, Silicon Valley. I got you. So, you know, so, so to go through this, he's right. It is a deeply concerning thing. But by the way, that doesn't mean that's not the reason why America's in shambles today. That also doesn't mean that.

It means guys like him who are afraid to address conversations like this are the reason why the other side is able to get so much agenda. So the whole concept is, what are we intolerant towards? Again, I pray for four things. Courage wisdom tolerance, understanding. I'm having a hard time with the third one, right? Because the screen tolerance. I have a hard time with tolerance, right? And then you see, Dave Smith tells me about a quote by Von Mises. He says, can you pull up the tweet that I, just the tweet right there that you had,

go back to it and go all the way to the top of the tweet, not that one, the other one, go all the way to the top of the tweet. Yeah, right there, if you can, there's a quote right there that says, right there, classic liberalism must be intolerant of every sort of intolerance. I have to tell you,

I've been grappling with many different words in my life, you know, why are we lazy? Well, I finally realize why people are lazy. Your life is boring, when we're bored, we are lazy. So you don't wanna have a boring life, make your life exciting by constantly having stuff to do. So these things you ask questions up, right?

This one here, you have to be tolerant Christians. We gotta be tolerant. Paul, shit. You can't be tolerant towards intolerance. If you gotta be intolerant to me, who the hell are you two think I'm gonna sit there and take it from you? So the concept of intolerance,

we must be intolerant to intolerance. Even for some of the Christian community on the bottom where it says your eyes are too pure to lock on evil, you cannot tolerate wrongdoing. Why then do you tolerate the treacherous? Why are you silent with the wicked, swallow up the more righteous than themselves? The whole thing he's talking about is,

why are you letting these wicked people take advantage of weak people? I'm standing in the streets. I see a person being bullied. I can do something about it. No, no, no, I don't want to ruin my career because what if I save that lady and then the cop comes and arrest me so let him beat the wife up.

It's okay. I'm just going to mine my own business. That's a coward in a way, right? Well, I don't think tolerance is a virtue at all. Actually, it is certainly not a Christian virtue. If you look at the New Testament, you don't really see Christ saying, it's okay, I'm just gonna accept this.

No, he speaks his mind. He makes a very clear delineation between right and wrong. God, the Old Testament certainly not won for tolerance. So the idea that this is a virtue, something we should strive toward, I disagree. And it's the same thing with blanket concepts like diversity. We're supposed to believe tolerance is inherently good. Diversity is inherently good just because, no, they've provided no moral framework as to

why those things should be something we strive for. We're supposed to just accept it without question. Yeah, no, I agree with that. Well, actually nailed it, Pat, because think about it. The left, the other side, does not give a damn. They're not, they don't give a, and nothing happens to them. So Pat, and I've always said this, it's time for us to be like, you know what, enough is enough.

Open your mouth. If you have to punch people in the face, I mean, they're doing it. What are we, is what, we're supposed to just sit back and just, and take it. I have one thing to say about that. So here's, here's a part. Is it fair to say there's certain people in America that they're going to vote Democrat, even if your argument makes sense, there's never going to be 100% when many people are still listening. Is it fair to say there's certain people in America, they're going to vote Republican, no matter what,

you can't say anything to them. 100%. So the truth is right for both sides. Okay. So who are we really trying to talk to? That becomes a question. The independence of... If you're trying to talk to the undecided, the independent, the libertarian, the green, whatever the community that's in the middle, the 12%, you have to figure out

how to communicate with them. So if this guy's talking about this, I know a lot of people that will come and say, well, let me take it off. Fuck this, I'm brutal dancing. You know, skil,, well, let me take this off. Fuck this. I'm not talking about you. You know, skill, rhythm, you know, yeah, you're not converting anybody. The ability to communicate a message as well to somebody saying, I never thought about it. I thought about that before. You can do it simply by questioning. You can do it simply by saying, you know, John, I don't know if public school

was like this. When you and I went to public, was it like this before? I just don't remember being like this. Did the my kid went to school, was it like this before? I just don't remember being like this. The other day my kid went to school and they did this. What do you think about it? That is a very open, you know, you're not bashing anybody to start a conversation and the other person can say,

yeah, you know what, my wife was saying the same thing, the same thing happened with us the other day. You know, kids going to school, I thought that was kind of weird. I'm a Democrat and I'm like, why do I do that? It's a little bit concerning. I'm starting to hear this and those are the way, say don't you think it's kind of weird, like, like, I don't mind taking a vaccine. I've taken a ton of vaccines, but don't that? It's a little bit concerning. I'm starting to hear this. And those are the way, say, don't you think it's kind of weird?

Like, I don't mind taking a vaccine. I've taken a ton of vaccines. But don't you think it's a little bit weird that, you know, they want pro choice to do whatever I want to do with my body, which fine, that's a interesting argument. I get that as a person that wants to do whatever they want to do with their body. But is it kind of weird that they want to be pro choice

there, but they want to be pro force when when it comes onto the vaccine? It's a little weird, ain't it? It's a way you open up the conversation at workplace instead of just saying these more on these mother pregnant, that's also not going to work. So a part of your friend that you spoke to on the next could also be the delivery of the message. The delivery of the message is just as important if not even more important than the point you're trying to make. You may be right, but your delivery is so bad that you push the person away from whatever argument

you're trying to make to them. There's a lot of people on social media and I'll push back on what you just said a little bit on one of the points. It's easy for us to just go hang out with each other, or we agree with each other. It's very safe to do that. You ain't doing nothing special.

You're not doing what these great leaders did in the past. We're just sitting there talking to each other, and we all agree, hey, let's just go talk to people. Hey, Pat, why don't you come on this platform? Everybody agrees with you. I don't wanna go to a platform where everybody agrees with me. I wanna go on a platform

where people don't agree with me. I want people to stop in the middle of the street and say, you know what where people don't agree with me. I want people to stop me in the middle of the street and say, you know what, I don't agree with what you said about this, that's a really, I don't agree with myself also sometimes, tell me what it was about that upset you. And let's process it together. I think we have to almost have some of those tough conversations do something with it, try to figure out a way to persuade.

Then if we don't succeed, then we got to take a different route. But I do think we have to talk to the opposition side instead of just people that agree with us. You can be a very good person that can find your own audience. There's two types of people. There's those who're gonna go give such a great message, bashing the other side so much that the people that agree with this person show up, but they don't convert.

Then there's another person that's gonna say, let me tell you my way of how I see this here, and this is how I evolved into thinking this way, and then the other people say, that guy just converted me into thinking like that. So this guy finds the community, this guy goes and converts people. We need more converters in America.

That's what's lacking. There are too many cowards that are running away just to talk to people that agree with them and it's safe. We need more fighters. That's the challenge that we're having right now. So when that guy's saying what he's saying, I don't blame him for feeling that way.

Maybe he's got to take a couple of communication courses. Well, I fully agree with what you're saying and that the term that we've all heard over the last handful of years is people are living in echo chambers. It's, if you're on the left, you're just speaking to all your friends on the left and that's what you associate with and you're living your echo's, if you're on the left, you're just speaking to all your friends on the left, and that's what you associate with,

and you're living in your echo chamber. If you're on the right, you don't even, all the lip tards out there, I would never hang out with anyone on the left, all the fucking evil out there, they're just living in an echo chamber. What I fully appreciate is open dialogue. And the fact that you constantly say, I'm gonna push back a little bit,

I'm gonna push back a little bit, that push back right there is where you find answers. Oh, I will. That right there is where you find actually common ground. I mean, speaking of push back a little bit, Jonathan Haigh, he did this really interesting study, the idea of echo chambers, conservatives consistently are better able to identify what the left believes

than vice versa, right? Because it's frankly a little bit hard to live in an echo chamber if you are right wing nowadays, right? Your government is left wing, your media is left wing, your entertainment is left wing, your schooling is left wing. So I mean, obviously, especially if you're in social media and your friend group, that could absolutely be just full of conservatives, right wingers, you don't have any exposure to actual leftists, but you're not going to get the same amount of ideological purity that you can on the left. And I think that is why the left more so than the right has been

radicalized and that we can see this when we look at like the positioning of the Democratic Party over the past few decades that has shifted much further right compared to sorry, much further left compared to any transformation that's happening. No, I actually fully agree with you. Can I circle back to one thing? Because we kind of skipped over it. We kind of just addressed it and then we moved on. This whole concept of tolerance. PPD, for years, you've been saying that your family abides by four overriding principles.

What are they again? Courage was in tolerance understanding. Okay, courage, wisdom, tolerance, understanding. This isn't something you just came up with this week, this month, this year. How many years have you been saying that? 15 years. Okay, and you have a whole artwork.

Yes. Braced on this. Yes. And I fully understand why you're saying that you're grappling with this word tolerance because it's come up so much these days, hey, gotta be tolerant. You gotta be tolerant.

Whereas when you initiated this entire livelihood, tolerance was a virtue. Tolerance was a main thing. What's the definition of tolerance? Willingness to accept feelings habits or beliefs that are different from your own, right? Are there some synonyms, endurance, resilience, being open-minded?

But it comes to an extent. We did the interview with Tate in Romania when he basically went on a riff about tolerance. Tolerance of what? All right, okay, I'll be tolerance of this. Okay, Gays can get married. All right, I'm tolerant of this. All right, I'm tolerant of that.

And then you can't kind of use the story about, all right, now I gotta eat the bugs. Now I gotta be tolerant of eating the bugs. Where do we draw the line? And I think that's where at an inflection point of like, all right, cool, I'm tolerant about this. All right, cool, I'm tolerant about this. Yeah, I don't know about these drag shows with kids.

I think not tolerant about that. I still think it's a good quality. I don't think it's a bad quality. I think you have to isolate in what areas tolerance is bad. We can be easy to jump to one side of the other. I got four kids. Trust me, you need tolerance. I run a business with 45,000 insurance agents

in 49 states. Trust me, you need tolerance. When run a business with 45,000 insurance agents in 49 states. Trust me, you need tolerance. When you're working with people that are going through the evolution of growing their mindset and all this other stuff, if you don't have it, if you don't have tolerance, you would fire a hundred percent of people, you hire. You need a level of tolerance.

What I believe, we need a level of intolerance towards, is towards intolerance, meaning the people I have the easiest time working with or community like for example Chris Cuomo and I are talking yesterday and he says Pat why do you want me on your show? Dude I'm not I don't look like the profile of people who have the honor to be clear to my the CNN anchor. Yeah yeah. Former. Yeah. Quommer. Yeah.

Quommer. And I said, what do you mean? It's a very simple question for me. As a first of all, I have a lot of respect for any man who raises two boys who love each other and are friends and are laughing and your father did that. And when I see you in Andrew, I got two boys.

I want my boys to be, I don't have to only look at conservative to sons to see how close they are. It doesn't matter what it is, I respect the fact that you guys are tied, you guys are close. I see you as a step, obviously we have opposing political ideas and philosophies, but that's what we can have the exchange. I think you are respectful and we can have a respectful conversation together.

If people can reason, we can have exchange. The people you shouldn't waste your time talking to are the people who don't have the ability to reason. That's when you're wasting your time. This is why I said the people that can be converted or are open, let's talk. The people that are not gonna listen to any, like Keith Obernman, what is the conversation

with Keith Obernman gonna be? There's not gonna be conversation, it's just gonna be, you're a moron, you're a this, you're gonna have to go home, buddy. It's not gonna work out. This is not what this is all about. So that's all I'm talking about with tolerance and intolerance, go ahead.

But if I could offer perhaps the virtue you're seeing intolerance there, intolerance, not in intolerance there, isn't actually tolerance itself, but understanding. Because I feel like if you can understand where someone is coming from, well, that should be the defining characteristic of whether you accept them or not. The issue of employees, for example, is it really that you have

to be tolerant or that you need to be understanding of different scenarios? And if a scenario still equals them being an effective employee, you're not going to tolerate that. No, you have to. No, no, no, no, You have to in sales. If you think I woke up day one, and I was the number one sales person in my gym, or office, or insurance company, that would be the biggest lie. Somebody was very tolerant with my evolution of improving because they believed in me.

That's a different kind of tolerance. I tolerate Vinny when we first had him on the podcast, no joke, you know, you know, I had a conversation with it, and I said, Vinnie, here's what we got to work on in this, and even with Adam, Adam and I at the first podcast, versus today, it's a very different thing, but I said, okay. But is that because you understood that they were new,

that they were trying to grow and that this was not their final evolution? No, I think tolerance is a very good quality. But people who are tolerant to areas where they believed something can improve, in areas that I'm not gonna be tolerant in, by non-negotiables, we're not tolerating my non-negotiables. But I think if you have, let's say you're dating somebody,

what is the challenge the older you get, the harder it is to get married? Is there true to that? Of course there is. Why? Why is it easy to get married when you're in your 20s? Why is it easy to get married when you're in your 30s and 40s? Why?

I mean, there's a whole red pill conversation we could have. Well, not your stepping in mind apart. Well, yeah. But by the way, I mean, the argument can be, well, you shouldn't get married because it divorced, it take half a what you got into some Erica's all about the way, I mean the argument can be well, you shouldn't get married because the divorce they take half of what you got And then just some Erica's all about the woman other I get that what I'm trying to tell you is the older you get The less things you are willing to tolerate Yeah, you're a little more set in your way which by the way

Some could say that's a good thing But if you're alone by yourself, but you want to be in a family and half kids Guess what you are a little bit too awkward and tolerant to too many things you got to kind of pick family and half kids, guess what? You are a little bit too tolerant to too many things. You got to kind of pick what your non-negotiables are. So, only thing I'm talking about. I want to go to some of the others. I want to give you credit for one thing. Go for it.

Okay, this is it. The reason I respect PBD so much is a conversation we talked about one of our first handful of podcasts. And it came down to the concept of being a leader and specifically being a sales leader. All right, you do the SLS, the sales leader, symposium, sales leader summit every year.

And we were having a conversation with debate and you go, hold on, I'm sorry Adam, what's the most amount of people you've ever led? I was like, well, you know, maybe like my sales team is like four or five guys and I was a camp counselor, as a kid, I was 50 people. You're like, nice try, buddy. Try being the sales leader sales manager

for tens of thousands of people. And that put my whole narrative in perspective. And that's what I give PBD so much credit for, speaking of tolerance, is, I mean, we've been to the MGM grand the events that you do for PHP shout out to those guys thousands, 10,000 people in a room. When you're leading thousands and thousands and thousands of people, I'm more prone to listening to what you have to say versus someone is leading 10 people.

And by the way, again, if you and I wanted to be intolerant to every, say you're a governor, say you're president, say you're a leader of a military. Oh my God, one, you're miserable. If you have a long list of things to be intolerant to, it's just things are not going to get done. And everybody else is going to be walking on excels all the time. So let's go into some stories. Let's go into some stories. By the way, Joan of Hills text, did you guys see Joan way, Jonah Hills text. Did you guys see Jonah Hills text?

Yes. Did you see Jonah Hills text? Yes, I did. You want to go there? Yeah. Okay. I'm putting up Jonah Hills text. It's like, you said, you're going here.

Don't be the reason I went there is because she said, red pill, I want your thoughts. So if you want to pull up Jonah Hills text, and this is Adam, you don't even know what's going to bring this up. No, not at all. She said, let me bring it up. So here's Jonah Hills's axe, sharing text

that they had together publicly, which is obviously a very noble thing to do. And many guys of course wanna date her after she shares the text of her ex, what everybody. Here's a text that Jonah sent to her, plain and simple. If you need surfing with men, boundary less inappropriate friendships with men, boundary less inappropriate friendships with men, two model to post pictures of yourself in a bathing suit, to post sexual pictures,

friendship with women who are in unstable places and from your wild recent past beyond getting a lunch or coffee or something respectful, I am not the right partner for you. If these things bring you to a place of happiness, I support it and there will be no hard feelings. These are my boundaries for romantic partnership. My boundaries with you based on the ways these actions have hurt our trust. When you read this, what do you say? I could not imagine a more reasonable sentiment

from a boyfriend, not only that, but he communicated very, very clearly and very sensitively. I felt he's essentially saying, this is what I expect in a relationship. You are currently not meeting those standards. If you want to keep going on the way you're going, that's totally fine. People have accused him of being controlling. He's not telling her what to do.

He is simply saying, I will not be a part of it. And guess what, women, we are not entitled to have a boyfriend to have a certain man's time He is just setting I thought very reasonable boundaries I know in this social media age It's for some reason controversial to say hey you probably shouldn't be posting thirst traps I would say that period, but especially if you're in a relationship So to see people calling Jonah Hill abusive for this, I was really surprised. I was expecting something really juicy, outrageous when I opened the text and then it's just

okay. Okay. Lauren, you hit the nail on the head here is that you're expecting something so much worse than this. And I was excited for it. I wore like a joke. Like Jonas, a woman beater. Let's find it. Yeah. And even if you look on page six on New York Post, he's been labeled a misogynist. Oh, God. But you said actual abuse. Well, emotional abuse is what it's called.

Here's the actual deal. You hit the nail on the head when you said boundaries. And also another word for boundaries is preferences. And this is the difference between men and women today. Women have no problem. And they are not lambasted or been made fun of or ashamed for when they say that they have preferences. Well, what are the preferences all women want?

I want a man that's six foot, makes six figures. I wanted to be nice with my mother. I wanted to be have puppies. I wanted to treat me right. I wanted to pay on the first date. I wanted to be fun, be outgoing, have a good network. There's a checklist that women want. But when guys are like, yeah, here's my checklist.

Don't be a hoe. Put your tits away. Don't have to have to do thirst traps all over the internet. I'd prefer it, preferences, if you don't have a bunch of guy friends that you're hanging out with. And actually just be a respectful person and don't put your shit out there. Oh my God, he's an emotionally abusive person.

He's a misogynist. What's wrong? Bullshit. I have a question though, was she like this before this happened? Or all of a sudden, she's the other part of the text. It's interesting that he says 25. Okay, but you're right. We can't do serve social things or develop trust

until you consider me and make decisions that give regard to our relationship. I have been vulnerable as possible as, and I am telling you, I am needing you to step up to the plate which you can, I'm sure of it, but these losers don't get your time if you want me. Straight up, it's consideration. I respect your love for surfing,

but I respect myself as well. And your love of surfing and being in those situations and lack of awareness are not mutually exclusive. By the way, the guy, what a very well-spoken guy. He seems very blunt. He has a editor in charge. He seems very blunt. He has a editor in charge.

I don't think this is actually a charge of the team. This isn't me. I have my own issues that I own. I gotta love that. If you want marriage and family, you can't use the 25 card. Step up and cut shit. These people don't get your time or your kindness at the sacrifice of mine.

This guy's, he's. I mean, that seems very emotional. Yeah, I love Joe and I. I'm communicating very clearly. Yeah, by the way, do you know, this is not recent. Do you know that he just had a baby with another woman? Yeah, well, in my opinion, that is somewhat of the reason behind the leak.

Correct. Exactly. So apparently she waited this woman right here, Sarah Brady, waited until the new mother of his child, his first child. Is that the ex? That's, I believe so. That's the ex. Well, some people from the LGBTQ community could say that Jonas shown too much cleavage.

That's way too much. It looks great. That a pirate show. But the point is she waited until the new baby mama had a chop out of respect to the woman. Now you might say, why the fuck are you even putting these texts out there? Yeah. A year later, right, to expose Jonah Hill. In my opinion, she's only exposing herself

because if she actually made some of these concessions, she could be Jonah Hill's baby mama, wife, whatever. But he found someone that actually was willing to work within his framework and his boundaries where she's out there just still surfing and being by herself. And this is essentially the problem with modern day women. Is there not even willing to listen

to a good guy's requests? By the way, what Jonah is sharing with her are his non-negotiables. That's all it is. Right. These are my non-negotiables. If you're cool with it, I'd love to make you my wife. Let's have family together, let's have kids together,

but I'm not compromising here. That's a perfect example of somebody that can reason, talk, deliver his message, but at the same time, not compromise his non-negotiables. Got a respect for Ford. The problem is that he's not supposed to have non-negotiables. He's not supposed to have boundaries when it comes to the behavior of his girlfriend

because feminism, she should be able to do whatever she wants. Whatever she wants, Lauren. Whatever she wants. He can't have any standards whatsoever. Take it or leave it, buddy. And I think regarding your question of what she doing this before, there are people who were saying, well, if she was posting these photos before they got into relationship, he should have known what he was in for.

I think that's a good point. I mean, men, you know, if you're at a club, I've been to one once, it was not an enjoyable experience for me. But, you know, if you're looking at a girl. One club in your life. It was not an enjoyable experience for me, but you know, if you're looking at a girl. One club in your life? It was not good. I did not have a good job. Well, you're saying you've only been a one club in your entire life?

Yeah, and it was for a work event. It was weird. Anyway. You need to get out more there. I'm trying to do that. I'm going to go to the amount to get out. Are you 30 yet? No, not yet.

Okay, gotcha. You're still young. But thank you. A lot of people online disagree. But if you're, well, because it's like, I'm past 25, that's like, you know. Oh, your SMV is down the hell, young lady. Exactly.

But if you're a guy and you're looking at a girl at a club and she's dressed provocatively and you like the way she looks, that's fine. You can be attracted to her. But don't be surprised when she's not wife material because I think for a lot of men, what they their not understanding and for a lot of women too, there's a difference between being interested in someone physically, maybe for a hug up versus an actual long-term relationship. So maybe Jonah Hill wasn't thinking with his, with the right part of his body there when

he got into relationship with her, but also I don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone to act differently in a relationship than out of a relationship. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone to act differently in a relationship than out of a relationship. I don't think that's crazy. Well people don't change. I actually had a conversation with a good buddy of mine who's a full-on orthodox rabbi living in Jerusalem when I was there in Israel, seven kids, and I was like, what's up, dude? He's like, dude, I'm the same guy.

He's like, now I've changed like 10%. I mean, this was a surfer dude, wild party guy Miami, who had a situation in his life where he needed to make a change. He goes, but I'm still the same person. So maybe you change 5%, 10%, a little bit. People don't do complete 180s. So if he's not overnight.

For sure. Arguably ever, major, major life changes. So the point is, if he's the surfer girl that's already doing this, maybe she'll change a little bit. She's not gonna completely do a 180 on her complete lifestyle. Just like, if I'm like, hey, do you wanna go out

to a club, Lauren? It's like, maybe you'll go once, but you're not gonna go turn into like a party rat. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about that. You think people change exponentially? No, no.

What do you listen? Yes. Dramatic, dude. I changed. Not 10%, bro. Me at 19 years old versus me at 26 years old. It's not a little bit of change. It's night and day, what my habits had to do.

It all depends on what life you're, if you're sick of the life that you got and you want to move on, which Jonah's going and getting therapy and sitting out with people, figuring out a way to how to live his life, he's being in Hollywood. You probably partied with so many people. God knows what rooms you've been in,

what types of people, what how many women would, what has any experience? So what happens at one point? Like, dude, I don't want this life. I actually want to have a family. I actually want to have somebody. You can't change 5, 10%.

You have to change dramatically. And that pain is not easy. So if she doesn't want to give up some of the stuff that she wants, she doesn't have to do it. I remember dating a girl, loved her. Till today, we're very good together. Jennifer's friends with her as well. But I got to a point with her, I said,

let's see man, I don't know what we're doing next. Okay, you wanna go to Hollywood? I don't wanna do Hollywood. I wanna go be a businessman. And but man, we like each other's company, everything's good. Here's what I wanna do, what's that? I'm an atheist, I don't even got,

let's go to church together. What? Are you becoming religious? No. All I'm saying is, if we're gonna take the? I'm an atheist, I don't believe in God, let's go to church together. What are you becoming religious? No, all I'm saying is, if we're gonna take the next step of getting married, I kinda need help, I don't have a manual, and we gotta go belong to some kind of a church, something to learn. So that month of me going through that process

for her was so dramatic that she didn't wanna do it. And for me, I didn't want to live the life that I was living. I made a massive shift in my life, which by the way, when you do make a massive shift in your life, like for her, she's been the same for a long time from the standpoint of values. When she was the way she was in high school, she's the same as she is today.

When she says she hasn't done drugs, she's been to one club and because of work and all this other stuff, that's probably your entire life for 29 years. That's not the case with me. I woke up and I said, I'm done. me. I woke up and I said I'm done. The day I woke up and I said I was done, I probably lost 20 people in my life overnight.

20 people, my Gona Dublin crew, my Gona garden of Eden crew, my Gona Pimpson host crew in Las Vegas, my crew of Gona, these are every one of those saddle ranch crew, my pulled Charles Billi these are every one of those satirant crew, my, you know, pulled Charles Billiards, every one of those I lost, the girls, I lost all of them. Because like, what are you doing?

What happened to all of a sudden? So, some, you know, they're in an upbringing, stable, things are more solid, all this stuff, some are not. If you do want a dramatic change, like let's just say you wanna have a wife and kid, if you truly, like, what Vinnie's doing right now, give you an idea.

Vinnie, all of a sudden I'm at church, I'm like, I see Vinnie, I'm like, well, what's Vinnie doing there? Okay, that's kind of crazy. And then Vinnie gets baptized. It's just like six weeks, I'm like, well, what is Vinnie doing over there? And I go recorded from this, I'm like,

this is the same Vinnie? Yeah. You're talking about a girl, you know what's it? What's your lips get swollen all this? Well, and he's not doing this. And he's not doing this. And he's not doing that. And then we go, we take him to bomb us. And then it's like, damn,

Vinnie's not changed in the last six weeks after the tape visit or whatever one to fly back. He makes a massive decision. Mario's invited him to church, Aaron invited him, all this stuff. Vinnie's made a dramatic shift in his lifestyle. Guess what?

The people he was kicking in with eight weeks ago, probably don't like him right now. Nope. The people he was chilling with girls, okay, can I come over at 11 o'clock? Nah, girl, you can right now. What happened to you? What happened to the old, fun, Vinny?

That's the bullshit you're gonna hear. So there's different situations that people have for some that we live the wildlife and we wanna make a big change. You have to be ready, like Jonah is, to be able to say, I lost his scrunch. Totally fine. You gotta make that decision as a man.

It's tough to do, so it's not easy, trust me. But your friend that's 10% change since seven years old, that's fine, that's not the case with everybody. I will, I'll say this, when you say it's not the case with everybody, I'll make the case that it's not the case with barely anybody. Yeah. What you're saying is an anomaly, PBD.

How many guys that are gang-bang in LA or whatever are like, yep, I made a complete change in my lifestyle. I'm a complete family man now. I've started a business. I'm sorry, you're an anomaly and respect to you for that. So most people are not making dramatic changes. I don't think so. I'll give you an example.

If Vinnie's going to church now awesome, mausoleum, amazing. I have, I have not noticed any difference in Vinnie and and respite. I mean, it's still the same guy. He might. So here's my point. Your habits might change. Your lifestyle might change. You're just exactly. That's my point. That's my point. No, it's not the point. Your decisions may change, but your personality's not changed. No, no, no, no. That's my point. You can't change your personality. Exactly.

Yeah, you can't change your personality, but you can't change who you are. You can change your, okay, but you're the question though. Is being a whole personality or a lifestyle? Oh, let's say this again. Is being a whole personality or a lifestyle? Oh, it's a lifestyle girl. I also think it's part personality, because there are girls that I went to school with in high school and they weren't at the time doing anything I don't think.

And then, oh, your pregnant two years later at a wedlock, that was not a shock to me. Even though the lifestyle they were living at the time wasn't that, but just based on their personalities, I knew that was gonna happen. I knew there was gonna be trouble. In 1973, Gallup de on their personalities, I knew that was going to happen. I knew there was going to be trouble. In 1973, Gallup did a poll, asking what percentage of gays in America were born that way? And what percentage of gays in America were gay because of their environment?

What do you think the percentage was in Gallup when they said what percentage of Gays were gay because of the they were born that way gallop. This is like 70s I would say at that time most of them would have said or most people would say it was because they were Wait, are they asking environment or born? I think this is a nature versus nurture question. No, they're asking the the American people in America to because they this Gallup say. Okay, so nurture before you give the results. Can we all guess on this? Yeah, I want you to guess. Okay, go ahead. So just if you would just rephrase it one more time. Okay, so back in 19 late 70s, they did a poll in America asking people, people who are gay, do you think they were

born that way? They were born gay or because of their environment? People in the 70s would have said that it was because of their environment. Okay, what do you say it is? Is it a percentage? Yeah. I would say born 40%, 60% environment. Okay, check this out.

I'd say 30. 13% said they were born that way. Today it's 49%. Okay. Oh wow, okay. During that time when they said 13 were born that way. Today it's 49%. Okay. Oh wow. Okay. During that time when they said 13% born that way, 50 something percent said was because of their environment. So to go back to your question about a whole, most holes, their environments affect them a lot.

Who you party with, you have to pick up whole tendencies. There was a famous poet named Ludicrous that said it. Right. Why do you think you can pick a whole set? He's a great poet. He's a famous poet named Ludicrous that said it. Right? Why do they take a whole set? He's a great poet. He's a great poet, a lot of different area of clothes. Right? And see, Pat don't change. He's still quote Ludicrous in there.

But it's free 2004, y'all. But the point is, environment has a big impact. Upringin has a big impact. People you'd be friend has a big impact. And a part of it is your own attractiveness to that, which is part of your DNA. But I'm not gonna say it's that big of a percentage. You become a whole.

You're not born a whole. Kid doesn't born a whole. Go ahead, you know, I'm saying this is I'm gonna be my entire life. No, you pick up some of those bad habits. So to go back, some of us may have not had whole tendency. Some of us may have had lazy tendencies. Some of us may have had, you know, scorching tendency. Some of us may have not had whole tendencies, some of us may have had lazy tendencies,

some of us may have had, you know, scorching tendencies, some of them may have had, you know, smoking wheat tendencies or cocaine or ecstasy or special care, whatever you want to talk. So we all had different tendencies. And then some people change dramatically, some don't. But all in all, Joana Hill, shout out to you, respect, happy he had a kid a month ago, congratulations.

I'm so freaking happy for that guy. I am so happy for the life changing, for what he's doing and he's a sick, incredible, talented actor himself, maybe one of the most entertaining ones to watch. And what he does, a serious movie, or funny movie, the guy's a freaking incredible artist. Super bad, Wolf of Wall Street, and just quick shout out.

Shout out to you Vinny for easing up on your hotel tendencies and going to church. Respect to you, bro. Thank you, I appreciate it. It was just, it was random. It wasn't like nobody, I'm not saying they didn't invite me or anything. It was just, like you said,

you get to a point where you're just like, wait a minute. One of my, something in here said to do it, and it's just like now you have, like I have a whole different lens on life and environment environment. I mean 100%. Environment work. Yeah. Right environment. You know, some people might consider it called growing up, bro. Don't never say the G. rap. Let's go to the MSNBC story. Apparently everybody here is a is a right wing. If you do work out, do you know the story I'm talking about? No. Okay, go to my tweet.

If you want, I have it all the way at the top. You'll find the story. You go to the top. Yeah, there you go. Click on it. Yeah, they go the lower, the lower, the lower. Boom, right there. MSNBC zoom in. It says, no, go back to the tweet on how they tweeted it.

Yeah, no. Okay, it says, the far right's obsession with fitness is going digital. Tell me that's not crazy. What? The far right. So I retweeted it and I put something at the top. I said, does the opposite also me go a little more?

Does the opposite also mean it's true? The far left's obsession would be in fat and lazy is going digital. You're not ironically yes. It's not crazy. It's not crazy. Yes, so if you work at even Joe said, wait a minute, now if I work at him a right wink,

for right. For right. For right. Yeah, like by the way, let's say if they are saying that. Okay, so moving forward, every time I see somebody who is willing to take the time to work out, their discipline with their die, they go to their gym three, moving forward, every time I see somebody who is willing to take the time to work out, their discipline with their diet, they go to their gym three, four times, they're detailed with, you know, chest and back and shoulders and triceps or bison, trice and legs, and they're

very disciplined with all that stuff. That's a right wing. Well, guess what, you know what the Republicans should do? They should use this and say, guess what? Yeah, we like to say help. Lean into it. You guys like vaccines. We like to say, hopefully you guys like vaccines. We like to work out. You guys like to use like even Peter Holtes.

They do work out, not really. What do you, I eat a lot of junk food, don't you think that's bad? Do you take vitamins now? Vitamins don't really work. You know, I only take vaccines. Really? Yeah.

Well, they've actually done studies about this. If you're a man and you go to the gym, you work out and you have higher testosterone, you are more likely to be right wing than... Correct. I see this subject. I mean, left wing. And I don't think it's a mystery-esque why?

Because a lot of the, I guess, mentality that would lead to someone going to the gym, self-improvement, personal responsibility, discipline. Those are more inherently conservative than socialists, not to mention just the... I guess, you know, if you go to the gym, your testosterone levels are going to be higher because you're exercising and you're being having a higher testosterone level is more commonly associated with right wing values because it's like you're less a feminine, less willing to nurture, redistribute all those. So you're saying most steroids dealers are Republicans.

But perhaps, perhaps. I know. That would have been a better art. Well, just look at the UFC. The UFC, I mean, I'm not going to say everyone who's a pro fighter is going to be Republican or right wing, but that is one of the few sports where I think you see a lot, a lot of even if they're not openly it we like, I know for a fact that a lot of people in that sphere of professional fighting, they are conservative. They do believe right. Oh, when they see Trump, they like a fighter

this past weekend. Trump, the ring was like, Mr. Trump, like, I love you. So I didn't know that going to the gym, like, yeah, well, I'm gonna race it. It's just right. It's so absurd. There are to confirm what you're saying. There have been studies out there that attribute being a little bit more attractive to being a little bit more conservative, right wing, free thinking because it comes down to personal accountability. And that's really what it comes down to.

There's multiple studies like this, but this to me, I'd like to see the studies they get where it just seems bullshit on the surface because I know so many people left, right, center, up, down, gay, straight, who just want to look good and take care of themselves. I mean, I live in Miami and South Beach. You have no idea how many gay guys are out there

looking fucking incredible. It looks great. No, I mean, I'm not into that thing, but whatever it gets to look great. But it's just so absurd. So I fully agree with Pat, if you're on the GOP, embrace the hell out of this. The laughter just fat, sloppy lazy losers,

relying on vaccines and you're taking personal accountability and personal responsibility for your health if you're on the right side. It's a bad look for MSNBC to write that. I would run with it, I'm telling you. I'm on the other side, I'm on a run, even MSNBC says, we're in shape, we have the right habits and the other side doesn't.

Anyways, next story, since you're talking about this, Trump shares a jovial handshake with Joe Rogan, who once called him a man, baby, and an existential threat to democracy. Former Dollar Trump shared a friendly handshake with Joe Rogan who once called him a man baby and an existential threat to democracy former dollar Trump shared a friendly handshake with Joe Rogan at the UFC fight and Las Vegas despite Rogan previous calling Trump a man baby Trump enthusiastically approached Rogan at the event and to engage in a friendly conversation a 10 second handshake Rogan has been critical of Trump in the past referring to him as a man, baby,

and declining opportunities to interview him. Rogan expresses lack of support for Trump stating that he doesn't want to help him and views him as an existential threat to democracy, despite their differences. Trump and Rogan had a cordial interaction at the UFC fight. And back to the question.

The question becomes a follow, okay, when he sees this. Okay, if you look at this this because I want you to see This go back to the handshake to show this you know, I love these handshake pack. Yeah, they're the most aggressive trumpets always playing tug of war He's like getting here watch watch I love he goes you're a good guy. You're a good You get JC's complimenting Rogan. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. He's a wish to type of talk. So here's a question. Yes, sir over under The podcast they can place with Trump and Roku. 80% yes, it's gonna happen. 80% I think it is gonna happen.

I'm not gonna give a percentage, but. Give a percentage, Lauren. Take a risk. 67. Oh, wow. That it, it's happened. That is happening. Okay.

I think 80% where you going with this. Well, I'm asking you, I ask you. Okay. That looks like he has an insider. Look at Pat's grin. See that. It's cheating if you're a person. Pat has that look at his son has when he knows the best Yeah, no, see that laugh

All right, so you want to go for it. Well, I'll just cite two quotes You set up the man baby thing that was on a podcast. He did with Tom Sagar in 2022 it's not a 2016 conversation and then in 2022 Rogan had a podcast with Lex Friedman and he said We just asked multiple times would you do a podcast? He said, no, no, no, no, no. Every single time, court on court, I have no interest in helping him. This is in 2022.

So as of a year ago, it was 0%. I think at this point, based on the UFC audience, how things have changed quite significantly, I will give it a, and I think it's a high number, 20%. What? But that goes up. What you, what you, what you, what you, and I think it's a high number, 20%. What? Wow. But that goes up all you, what you, what you, what you're saying, 80 years saying,

I think 80 years saying he's gonna do it. And Pat, this just goes into what we just talked about, like tolerance, like he's changing as a person, like bro, he's seeing the like, he, Joe Rogan was anti-Trump and everything right now, but now that he's seeing what the left has done, he's pro-Trump right now. I don't what the left has done, he's pro Trump right now. I don't care what anybody says, bro.

He's shaking his hands smiling. He was a fan. Is that his own? He called him a man maybe a year ago, a year ago. Well, a lot can change in a year. And it's just he's a man. It doesn't mean he doesn't want to interview him. You want to play that?

I'm just glad that he's still considered a man. Is that what you're talking about? What do you say? What do you say here? This is the Lex Friedman interview from last year where he said he won an interview. Play it Rob. Lex Friedman. Why?

I didn't know. No, not a Reedman Rob. Well, he didn't want to say that because Rosemond went to the gym. So there's going to be a considered a white man. That's the idea of January 6. Shakes hands with people that aren't even there when he gets off stage.

Yeah. I think he's seeing ghosts. Yeah. You see him on Jimmy Kimmel the other day? No. Well, he was just rambling. I mean, he's, if he was anyone else, if he was a Republican,

if that was Donald Trump doing that, every fucking talk show would be screaming for him to be off the air. And by the way, I'm not a Trump supporter in any way, shape or form. I've had the opportunity to have him on my show more than once. I've said no, every time.

I don't wanna help him. I'm not interested in helping. The night is still young, we'll see. If I have mom, the night is still young, think I'll have mom? Yeah, I think you'll have mom. Really? Why do you think that?

Because you'll have pooped on. Yeah. Yeah. And you're the pain in the butt, no. You can pause it right there. What's the date on that timestamp that? This is probably the end. Well, that can have my fifth in 2020.

But, exactly. A year ago, Pat, the thing about this, I don't want to help him, but the Biden and the left, I don't say, because Biden has no ideas, not making decisions. They have, they have shit on this country so much. Now, it's not what, now he's gonna help him. No, no, he's a prime example of seeing

just what the media and everybody did to the left. Go ahead, and what? No, no, before Pat reveals his results, you wanna have a bet? Let's have a bet. All right, I'll bet you a thousand dollars. A thousand bucks ahead. He does not have him on.

That he doesn't interview him. Correct. By when? By all guy. By the time that Trump presidency is, is or is not the president? Before November 2nd or 3rd. Sure.

You're saying $1,000 he doesn't interview him. Yeah. It's a good bet. I'll go 500 bucks. Ah! Ah! Listen. What happened to having conviction?

No, no, no. What happened to having tolerance Vincent? I think 500 bucks is a big number. 500 bucks. How about 500 bucks? 700. Adam, that idea. 500 bucks. 500 bucks. Do you want to do it? I bet 500 700. Adam, that idea. 500 bucks.

Do you want to do it? All right, I don't usually do bets for less than a thousand. Okay, five minutes. That's the Miami. Okay, 500 bucks. I'll pay it, we'll pay it live. Verbal agreement. Verbal, did you call?

By the election, I'm not gonna say it. It's not gonna happen. I'm saying it's not gonna happen. Before election. Correct, and if it happens, I pay you 500 bucks. Okay, that's 500 bucks. And it doesn't happen. Got you. So here's what I would say. Yes. So here's what I would say. I think the one thing that's been very

consistent with Joe Rogan over the years that he's so open-minded that his positions can change. Yes. Okay. He never thought he would have RFK on before. Okay. And now he had RFK on. Even the opening, he says, look, I thought you were a loon. I thought this, I thought you were loom. I thought this I thought that I thought this But then listen, I met you Casa de Angelo, you know, but whatever he didn't say Casa de I met you in Aspen we talked I'm like okay, I want to have you on and I you know I thought it was all this vaccine stuff and I was a guy that was vaccine person But you're making a lot of sense that I read the book. Okay, great. He's done this so many times

He went from Bernie Sanders to St. Voting Republican. Correct. So meaning there is that evolution with Joe for this to take place. Here's the other part. The whole concept about I've shared with Joe what my thoughts are on the interview with Trump. He knows it, but the idea about I don't want to help him has to be replaced in my opinion. You're not helping him. You're helping America. Meaning if the idea is you don't want to help America I think Joe you want to help America and you've been helping America and my opinion you're the number one guy You're the goat when it comes down to podcasts and not only that during COVID The most super necessary guy in America was him.

Forget before it must buy a Twitter in October of 2022, before any of that, it was Joe Rogan. Not Dr. Fauci Pat? No, so the point I'm trying to make is, if you believe America needs to see the opposing side of the argument, I think Joe needs to have Trump on. I think he needs to have the opposing side of the argument. I think Joe needs to have Trump on. I think he needs to have the Santas on.

I think he needs to have Nusom on. Biden is going to be Nusom. Biden won't go in a million. They would never. But I would, I would die to see that. What I would love to see. You know what I would love to see? If Sensei smokes weed with Elon Musk,

I would love to see Joe Rogan smoke crack with Hunter Biden. Oh, I just, I mean, Joe doesn't need to smoke it, but I think that would be views. Where an eyeball attention economy. Well, I'm here with Hunter Biden. I think some crap. I think eventually, it's more likely to happen. I'm more 55%.

Could we bump, we want to bump up? We want to bump up. Yes. So you want to bump up to 1,000? Oh, all of a sudden. Because I don't know. I'm more 55%. Could we bump? We want to be one of five percent. Yes. So you want to bump into a thousand. Oh, all of a sudden. I don't know. It just shows you have no conviction, buddy. I bet $500. Well, I'm okay. You know,

so you're at 80%. You're at 67%. Yeah, I do. I do. I think it's about half of it. 20. Rogan saying he doesn't want to help him, but it seems like at least with RFK, his approach wasn't necessarily I'm helping you or not helping you. It's just

we're just having a conversation and people can decide. And, you know, if Trump is an idiot, if he's an extremist, if he's whatever, sitting down for three hours, people are going to see through that. So it might even hurt him, who knows, but I think his audience would decide. And I think Rogan likes that.

To be clear, I actually would like to see that interview. I'm actually, I'll gladly lose $500. If it means we can see that interview, I think it'd be'll gladly lose $500. And it means we can see that interview. I think it'd be amazing, but I think we're doing a disservice to Trump to compare RFK's viewpoints to where how he feels about Trump. This has nothing to with RFK's.

No, I'm saying he criticized someone's views, but he still had him on. No. It's a different beast with Trump. What do you mean with how the interview with Trump's gonna do versus our okay? Meaning his feelings about RFK were not as intense or exaggerated as they are with Trump.

He never called RFK a man, baby. And he never said he would never wanna have a monitor or help him whatsoever. He just kind of had some. Joe, Joe is a very interesting individual with a high self-awareness and a level of comfort of being wrong and a level of conviction and areas

where he is certain that he's right. And this is a guy that if there's a guy that would be able to interview, would be able to change his position and be open to the idea, it's Joe. And if that happens, so let's you guys know if that happens. It's kind of going to be done. 2020 Ford does.

It's going to be like, hey, kiss it. Goodbye. Everybody else. Go home. Pack, you know, play your video games. I want to say what you're saying. You're saying if he has him on, that that will mean Trump will win the White House.

If he has him on, okay. So for example, Mario Bartoroma, let me just read this to you, okay. And this is kind of Mario Bartoroma confronts the Santos on 2024 campaign. What happened, right? This is a news week story. And if you want to pull up the clip, if you actually have the clip, I don't know if you got it or not, if you can just go to that part where he asks the question, is this, yeah, this is the part.

Go ahead and play. Watch this. Back against woke. We know that, but I'm wondering what's going on with your campaign. There was a lot of optimism about you running for president earlier in the year, but here's this weekend's headline from the political playbook, failure to launch. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is campaigned to topple donald trump has stalled we are way behind says they top dissent is pack officials sounding the alarm

what happened uh... uh... ria these are narratives the media does not want me to be the nominee i think that's very very clear why because they know all beat by then but Why? Because they know I'll beat Biden. But even more importantly, they know I will actually deliver on all these things.

We will stop the invasion at the border. We'll take on the drug cartels. We'll curtail the administrative state. We'll get spending under control. We'll do all the things that they don't want to see done. And so they're going to continue doing the type of narrative. I can tell you we understand this is a state by state process. We've had incredible support in the early states building an organization signing up the

key people that you need to be able to compete in a place like Iowa. We just launched our mom. Okay, you can pause it right there. Here's the thing. By the way, he ain't lying. Meaning he wouldn't make one hell of a president. I agree. He would have incredible policies. He would do all of those things, but you're going up against a guy that's a marketer and you're marketing team sucks. Yeah, absolutely sucks since the book came out. The razzle dazzle of Trump needs to throw in some horse faces

Yeah, he doesn't have horse bit like a comment No, like don't talk about it. Yeah, you know excitement He needs some Up with the Santa 17 years ago 17 years ago. Even a gig, even a gig I go. Yeah. Even worse. So funny.

Can I blew you? No, but you know what it is. Here's the part. The point I'm trying to make is, you know. So there's one you have an incredible resume. Check, you have it. Two whiz. You're going into the interview.

Okay. The person you already got the interview, like you got the people, you're going into the interview. Okay? The person you already got the interview, like you got the people you're being considered for the job. You're a finalist. You're on the top three finalists to be considered for the job. So the resume got you into the interview. Then you have to crush the interview, and you ruin the interview. If Trump goes in with the resume, and then he goes in the interview, that's where he shines.

He's shining one the interview begins. This guy's like, here's my resume. Let me do what I've done. This is why he should pick me. That's not how America works. Well, it's funny because for so long, people have been critical of Trump being unpredictable, kind of brash and abrasive, but it turns out that maybe you need to candidate with a Lisa little bit of that because you have someone like Rhonda Sanders.

I like Trump. I like Rhonda Sanders. I don't think it needs to be either or, but he doesn't have the same star power, the same charisma, which in politics, let's be real. Of course that matters. By the way, okay, so let's do this. Let's do this. The star power.

By the way, his team, I've communicated with both teams, with Trump's team, with his team, with RFK, a K's team this, let's do this. The star power, by the way, his team I've communicated with both teams, with Trump's team, with his team, with RFK, AK's team, with Vivek's team, we're in communication with every one of the teams. Suarez, do you know which team sucks in follow-up or getting back to us? They text, in a text, and then boom. Okay, I'm available this afternoon.

Great, no follow-up for two weeks. Great, no follow up for two weeks. They're the worst in follow up. It's a reflection of the brand. It's not a good look. And this is not like it's a small podcast. We got 17 subscribers and you're doing this with. We got a platform to say this to the market. Your follow up sucks with people that are reaching out to you.

And we communicate with every campaign. So you're talking about the, and FYI, I keep saying this, we came here because of this guy. We're in Florida because of this guy. I've moved, I don't know how many people we moved on. If I tell you in the last 26 months, 28 months, if I tell you 1500 people have moved to Florida because of what we've done, that would be a small number.

We've moved a couple thousand people to Florida, with the amount of times we've raved about him, raved about the state, we've moved people to the state. And these are high quality people that we move to the state. These are not non-performing people. These are job creators, entrepreneurs that we have moved to this state. There is support there. You're saying you have to be able to sell yourself, right? Okay, let me give you another example of somebody

that I think campaign to campaign, campaign to campaign. Vivek is crushing their campaign and Vivek had nothing. Who was Vivek? Well, I mean, he was a best-selling author of multi-millionaire entrepreneur. No, but the difference is, but the difference is, let me put it to you this way. Day one when Vivek announced he's run a for office,

do you know what his Twitter account was at? 40,000 followers, 60,000 followers? I'm sorry, even the woke book he wrote, it didn't blow up. Can you go to Amazon? Go to Amazon and type in Vivek. Go to Amazon and type in Vivek. We had him on and he and I, we spoke yesterday.

Go, go on, man, and put his name there. Okay. When he first came out with his walkbook, just tap in Vivek, Ramazwani, and go to his book. Okay. How many, what is that? That's Vivek. What year? 2023. How many months ago? Yeah. This book came out April of 2023. It has 57 reviews. Okay. Go to the next book there. that by the way 57 reviews to be fair guys and I like this guy That's nothing nation of victims how many reviews is that? 372 reviews a year ago that's barely selling 30,000 copies by the way just so you know that that number on Amazon That's nothing, but what has this guy done? Here's what he's done. He went on Charlemagne the God the breakfast club You know what they try to do to him destroy him. You know what he did? He stood his ground. He went on

new... Same with CNN. He went on CNN. He's gone everywhere. He's not said no to anything and he stood his ground when Donald Leman tried to embarrass him. He stood his ground. He says, that's fine. You can believe that, but we can disagree. And he was so respectful about it. The way Ramaswani went out there saying, I'm not afraid. Him and RFK get a's in the way they've gone out talking. The Sanctisist camp is thinking they're entitled to that, to the throne. And you don't get the championship ring given to you. You got to go earn that stuff.

By the way, whether you're injured, whether you're not in the mood, when you go into the playoffs and sports, what happens during playoffs? What does everybody say during playoffs when people do their interviews? Like when Joel and Beatz says, well, I was really hurt and I was this.

You know what champion say? Listen, when is your under-play-offs? Everybody is at 50% 60%. Everybody's dealing with an injury. You got a finger, you got a knee, you got a back, you got a knee, you got a back, you got a dish, you got a dead. You don't have a choice.

You have to show up on the playoffs, right? It's very disappointing. And by the way, yesterday we're having this conversation with a group of people and some of the guys said, he's the modern day Jeb Bush, and he's the modern day Scott Walker. That's not fair. Hang on a second.

The modern day Jeb Bush and the modern day Scott Walker, not because of resume. His resume is possibly the greatest governor in the last 30 years. Since I've been in America, no one's got a better resume than him, but his campaign is Jeb Bush and Scott Walker 2.0. And Pat, you've been saying this, Pat, not to cut you off. You've been saying this for how long about the marketing team and everything about him my question is As as being at the candidate being the same is how does he not?

See it are you not hearing like she's she just said it the people are seeing your numbers are showing it Does he need to just do a complete shift pat and like fire somebody or hire a better marketing team? They are horrible how they not texting somebody back that is like, yo, I have this platform. Millions of them. It's not just I have a platform. I'll do a fundraiser for you. We'll raise a ton of money. We'll get you eyeballs.

We'll have a fair interview with you because we respect you. Let's have this exchange. Multiple times the team doesn't get back. Not one time. I'm not gonna give names yet. But I'm gonna give names within a year. Multiple times, they don't get back to you.

Multiple times, they don't get back to you. And by the way, I'm not the only one saying it as well. Making Kelly, have you got, I said, Megan Kelly's one the greatest, she's a top five in the last 10 years. What do you do not go on making Kelly? What do you do not go on any of this stuff? What do you do not go on Lex free?

I don't know, has Lex done a podcast with DeSantis yet? No, I don't believe so. I don't believe so. Can you look it up? What do you do not going on Lex free? I don't know, has Lex done a podcast with DeSantis yet? No, I don't believe so. I don't believe so. Can you look it up? What are you doing not going on Lex? Lex is a very, very nice guy. Yeah. Lex is a sweetheart of a guy that's going to ask you questions,

but he's so respectful about it. How can he ever go on on Lex? And I can be fair to you as well. Can I just give some quick numbers, just to validate exactly what you're saying? In February, what month are we in right now? July? July? July.

So less than six months ago, go up Rob, just to the top, to the top left, who's ahead the Republican primary polls, boom. In February, between Trump and DeSantis, neck and neck. Look at that, to the left. One was at 38%, one was at 42%. Anyone's race, anyone's race in February, failure to launch,

what do they call his campaign? His book came out six months before. He actually announced, Pat's called out his marketing team. Now go to all the way to the right. Just look at the numbers. Trump said 52% to Sanctus is plummeted from 38 down to, what is that, less than 20?

24, what is that Rob? Doesn't say here on the track. All right, but it's hovering right around between like 23. So the point is this, whatever he's doing, it's fair to say is not working. So he should change. He should change things up even. You gotta adjust. You gotta adapt.

Yeah, I'm in Florida for two weeks now. You gotta go into halftime and say, listen guys, I'm just gotta give a halftime speech. Change it up a little bit. Go ahead. I'm in Florida for TPUSA, and we have a sister organization turning point action. There's a huge conference. I mean, Trump is speaking, Tucker Carlson is speaking.

DeSantis isn't speaking. I'm not part of that organization. It's just they're separate because of that. Is DeSantis really not speaking? He's not speaking. I mean, he hasn't been announced yet. And some people, there are some people are wondering why he isn't there is because he doesn't want to go in the same event, be speaking with Trump. And I don't know, but I would love

to see more of him because he's been one of, like you said, the most effective governors. He's been aggressive in his policy, which I love. He's not one of these Republicans who is simply trying to be on offense all the time. He's actually saying, okay, parental rights and education, boom, let's do it. Let's go after Disney. We're not just going to talk, which I love. I've been in communication with his administration. There was a video that I shared of this topless,

trans-tripper with, I mean, she looked like four years old. It wasn't just talk for the campaign. They're actually doing things about it. They're trying to do an investigation so they should keep their liquor license. I love how effective they are. But like you said, the campaign is just, it's...

Gotta show up. Listen, when you get to the interview, you best deliver when you're sitting across the decision maker. You know who the decision maker right now is? America. And Americans right now are saying, no, you're not fit for the job yet.

Maybe never, FYI, I'll never forget. I will never forget when the Pacers are playing the Miami Heat and Timeout is called Indiana is up one. This is game two, game three, they're about to go up two one. This is 2012. Yes, 11 years ago.

Yes. Okay, they're up one, Coach Vogel takes out Roy Hibbert who was the center of starter all-star game. He takes Hibbert out. And what are you doing? There's two seconds left on the shot clock. Hibbert's on the sideline shaking and said, what are you doing? Take him out. Miami takes the ball, gives it to LeBron at the free throw line. LeBron goes this way, fakes going with a left hand, they win the game, afterwards, they're talking TNT. And Chuck says, well, you know, Frank's got to tell him right now, we're so close and this is our chance to go to the championship.

And Kenny Smith says, no, Charles, I disagree. This is what he mean, you disagree. He says, this may have been their last chance to ever win a championship. These players don't realize when you get an opportunity like this, championships are not handed out. You should have kept Hibbert in. What are you doing taking him out?

Guess what? He was right. Hibbert won't like this after that. Nobody ever talked about him again. And that entire team, Paul George, everybody they had collapsed, vocal, everybody went all over the place. This idea of thinking, well, this doesn't work with the 28th,

if this doesn't work, Skywalker, this one, or JetBoy, it says, no, this is not how life works. You have the sickest resume today. You crushed it under COVID. You even had MBA, like the storytelling. Why are you not talking about the most liberal BLM?

Think about the hypocrisy. MBA had BLM all over the place. And as much as that BLM all over the place, they chose to hold the all-star game in your state. Why you're the governor? How the hell are you not telling that story? You crushed it and you're not telling that story. I don't understand this stuff. It's so confusing.

This should have been like this. Trump and DeSantis should have been like this. And by the way, that's better for America if it would have been like this. Because they're pushing issues. There is no been like this. Trump in the center should have been like this. And by the way, that's better for America if it would have been like this. Because they're pushing issues. There is no issues right now. We're not hearing any issues right now. All we're seeing is this.

It's over for most people. Some people are saying, why should you even Trump get on the stage? Can't imagine if Trump doesn't even get on the stage. There's a need to. Here's a need to get on the stage. It was like, Maria asked him a question, are you gonna be on the stage?

So well, yeah, of course, I'm gonna be doing the debate, but this is you have to win by the state and all this other stuff. No, not for, for president, yes, it's by state, but not for Republican, that's for, yeah. Anyway, so it's a whole different story on what's going on here. So for me, Trump goes on Rogan, he's gonna put on a show.

You know what he's gonna do? He's gonna do flattery, joy, you're the greatest. This, this, this, this, that, all of that stuff's gonna put on a show. You know what he's gonna do? He's gonna do flattery. Joe, you're the greatest. You know, this, this, this, this, that. All of that stuff's gonna happen. They're gonna connect. They're gonna laugh. He's gonna make Joe laugh as ass off.

Those clips are gonna be put up at the end of it. Joe's probably, you know, hey, sir, I gotta tell you my position here, but I really enjoyed you. If you, hopefully, you're gonna kind of tone it down a little bit with the way you do this, this, this, with tweets It says I'm working on it and then boom the world's gonna see that and humanize him in the rest of history These are some of the things that if Trump gets that opportunity to be on Joe he'll capitalize

I think so too. I just add one thing because I know our audience is in a sports audience Yeah, I'm not gonna lie that was lost on I got that but here's the deal What he's saying is carpetia Sees the mother fricking day that was lost on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no as it metaphor. The Indiana Pacers were this close to dethroning to the Miami Heat and LeBron James. What has happened since then, since the stupid decision that the coach made. Indiana Pacers have barely even made it the playoffs. That team has been dismantled. Danny Granger, Paul George, Roy Ebert is out of the league. Meanwhile, LeBron James, aka Trump in this story, has won four NBA championship since then. He's still the face of the league.

Meanwhile, the other players are out of the freaking league. He also brought up Scott Walker, Jeb Bush. These people are in the, in the dustbin of history. And that could potentially happen to the Santas. You don't have to. You don't have to. No, you don't get a second check. Okay. You think he should have waited until the next election cycle. No, not at all. Because a lot of people are saying it. Oh, I'm sorry, till the next election's out. I'm sorry, I thought you were saying you should have waited to go on later.

Oh, no. You were saying to go 2028. OK, that's a very good question. I think you should have ran because you're going to forget. We forget things very quickly. America, as much as America can bitch and complain, we're so forgiven so quickly and we move on. You know, we like to see you fall,

but we like you come up even more. We love redemption stories. This is America. America's a place that we're like, hey, Mayor, loser, you're more on, did you see that? Did you see that? Oh, shit, I feel bad. Hey, it's okay.

It's okay. That's America, right? That's kind of America. So that's what's gonna happen with Trump. But he had his moment. It was so clear. So that's what's gonna happen with Trump. But he had his moment, it was so clear. So clear marketing team sucked, who wasn't his ear sucked, whoever he hired,

it's unfortunate. And by the way, again, this is coming from a community who are fans, who are supporters, who voted unanimously, like in every possible way it's for you and you did this. Anyways, watch what's happening here to transition this story. Ramaswani closes in on the Santas

as Trump dominates in GOP poll the Hill. Former President Trump leased the GOP primary field with 49% support according to a recent poll by Ashlan Insights, Florida Governor Ramas Santas, follows a second place with 16 while biotic entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswanis behind them with 10% Ramaswanis has been a 2% point increase in support since a previous poll conducted in May where he will have 8%. In contrast, the Santa's has experienced a 3% drop since May when he garnered 19 points concerns with the synthesis

of viability as a candidate has emerged, particularly following a glitchy Twitter spaces, I'm not worried about that one, right there, his recent criticism of Trump posts, support for LGBT community has drawn backlash from GOP groups such as law, cabinet, Republicans, those things, I'm not concerned about, but the part is Vivek, okay.

Why do you think Vivek is getting this search? What do you think is getting him to get people to say, man, I kind of like this guy, I kind of like what he has to say. He's not scared to open his mouth, Pat. Just yesterday, I think it was yesterday, some lady in the back, he was doing some talk in like, not an auditorium, like in an open area. And she was like, town hall, she's like,

it's my body, my choice. I have a kid. And it was like an exchange where the lady was leaving. He's like, no, no, come back here. Let's have a conversation. She came to the stage. She started crying. He's having, I think he's not scared to talk.

He's not scared to voice the pain and pat. Marketing, he's not saying no to anything. He has brass and he's smart as hell. And he's probably one of the most efficient and effective communicators that's running right now, regardless of whether you like him or not. He has his hand on the pulse of cultural issues, which would have been de-santasis, I guess, his trump card. I mean, he's someone who's actually not just talking about the culture, or he's actively fighting it, but he doesn't do a good job articulating it in the same way that Vivek does. I mean, he's been on the daily wire before he been announced.

He is very, very, he knows what the average voter cares about. And I think if we look at what happened in Virginia with Glenn Youngkin, Youngkin, I mean, this isn't just, oh, culture war, self, it doesn't matter. No, these issues, they're getting people out and they're getting especially suburban moms to vote. So I think he's really playing his cards right, just overall. Yeah, I love the way he communicates. I love the way how respectful he is. I love the way he pushes back.

But more importantly, I love how hard he's working. He's everywhere. You know what's one of the most intimidating things to do to your competitors? I love doing this. In the insurance space or any kind of business. When we were first coming up in our podcast at small YouTube, we had like 50,000 subs, okay, value team. We got four and a half million out. The time was 50,000 subs. And I'm in Dallas. Who the hell wants to interview in Dallas? Nobody wants to go to freaking Dallas.

Don't leave even that on Dallas. Art of Conservatives. The only person I had was the blaze. At nobody else. I want to interview everybody, but everyone's in Dallas. Everyone's in LA, Miami, all this stuff. You know what we did? We'd go to New York at Renault Hotel Room,

and I would do six, seven, eight interviews in two days. Back to, back to, back to, back to, back. So I got notes like this, next guest, next guest, next guest, next guest. We'd go to Miami, seven interviews. We'd go to LA, 12 interviews. And then we would have enough interviews over the next two, three, four weeks, while I'm running a company, while we're having baby after baby after baby, while I'm going national visiting office

All this stuff is happening. It's so intimidating to see Vivek everywhere It's as if he's got triple it's it's him and two other brothers. Yeah one minute is here next minute is there So kind of hell are you everywhere? That is so draining to your enemy to your competitors to say Yeah, I'm not willing to do this unless if you're willing to come to Tallahassee to interview me I'm not going anywhere. Yeah, if you're willing to come to Tallahassee to interview me, I'm not going anywhere. You're going to lose to guy like this. You're going to lose to guy like this that's willing to go everywhere and anywhere to talk to anybody.

He's gaining that kind of respect. By the way, if you would like to see us do a live podcast at 5990 Live with Vivek, I'm talking Town Hall where you can ask him questions. If you would like to do that, text award podcast to 310-340-1132-310-340-1132. Text award podcasted at number. We are thinking about who to have next. I'm doing a July 20 live podcast. Those tickets have already sold out.

But the next one we're doing, we're talking to potentially many different camps. If you'd like to see a live podcast with Vivek, again, text the word podcast to 310-340-1132. Next topic, Sound of Freedom. Have you seen the movie yet? So a lot of people have asked me this as a new mom.

I don't think I can emotionally handle it. Just because of the subject matter. And I cry during Pixar movies, I'd be a total mess. Well, have you seen Elemental? I, yes, I did get it. I didn't even like the movie I got teary-eyed. I'm very, very easy. So, I saw the movie, so here's what happens.

We're in Bahamas and we're trying to find a movie theater to go see this. We can't find it, finally, Teacron finds the movie and we're like, shit, we're going with 25 of us and the kids wanna watch Indiana Jones, what do we do? And the Indiana Jones is playing at one o'clock, Sound of Freedom is playing at two o'clock. Good news, Indiana Jones is a 2.5 hour movie, which is great because we got like a 30 minutes. So we go into Indiana Jones, we're watching Indiana Jones and in me, Matt Sopala, Shina,

Teacrum, we sneak out and we go to White Sound of Freedom, we're sitting there. And from the beginning, you're gonna feel the pain of the father taking his kids, a daughter and a son who is approached by a recruiter saying, your kids can be models, they can be in movies. He says, tonight audition is at such and such time. Today the audition is at such and such time. Father dresses in a suit, takes him to this room,

and he takes the kids there, they're excited, put the kids in the room and the girl says, come back to pick him up at seven o'clock. He says, what do you mean? Come back to pick him up at seven o'clock. He leaves, comes back seven o'clock, no one's there. Shut down. That's how the movie starts. Yeah. By the way, it's disturbing, it's emotional, it's tough, it's painful. At the end, Jim Cavizel gives a message. When the movie ends, three minutes later, he's given a message, profound message that you have to watch.

The stats that they gave, that 20 plus million child pornography pictures were uploaded on the internet, the last year, a 5,000% increase in the last five years. The idea, what they said, every year, a 5,000% increase in the last five years. The idea, where they said every year, two million kids going to trafficking, going into being sold in a black market, and then stats about how you can sell cocaine one time, but you can sell the same child five to 10 times a day.

For 10 years is what you can do, and it's a $150 billion a year industry and gym is in it, the story of Tim Ballard, what he did. And then while this is going on, everybody needs to go watch it. I wanna watch it first. It's a decision you need to make. I wanna watch it first.

I know what it is to be a, I don't know what it is to be a mother, but I have a wife that's at four kids. And I know how tough it is for a mother to see it. Then a father, our perspective is more protective. Yours is more, you gave birth, it's your body. I recommend everybody to go watch this thing here and share it with everyone you know, because this is really taking place. This led us to yesterday having a conversation with many of the people in Glendale that are

going through the challenges they're having with GUSD with the Tuzum yesterday. We're excited about launching the event in Glendale. The biggest concern right now is every major hotel will announce what these places are and will give the names out to people. No, has said no, every Armenian hall in Glendale has said come and do the event on what's going on with L.A. U.S.D. and GUSD would, what kind of content?

They're trying to put into schools and we will announce the date here. Very soon, first we're gonna announce it underground because we want to write people to show up. Then I'll announce it publicly. And everyone's worried about, you know, rioting, protesting all this other stuff. Here's a point, while this movie comes out

and is doing so well, can you show up how Rolling Stone responded to, I send you those different screenshots when I air drop it to you? What Rolling Stone said about QT's versus this? What different platforms said about QT's versus this? And by the way, while you're looking for that, maybe show the clip of the video of what the CNN person said about this.

If you know which one I'm talking about, where the CNN is asking a question. So what do you think about this movie? There's a lot of people that are saying that there's some right-wing QNAN. What do you think about this movie, you know, there's a lot of people that are saying that there's some right-wing Q-N-on, you know, what do you think about this? And this guest, you should see what this guest right there, if you can make that bigger, you should see what this guest says about this movie. Pretty familiar with him. Watch his goal. We play this?

Of course. Watch this. And you seem pretty familiar with him because he doesn't really hide his association with this real wild plot that that involves you know drinking the blood of children and things like that. No he doesn't hide it at all and you have a lot of people who are in this world of QAnon who say oh they don't know what that is they've never heard of it they're just asking questions with somebody like Jim Kovizel he is openly embracing it he's openly using its its catch phrases and its concepts.

He's speaking at QAnon conventions. And this film is being marketed to either specific QAnon believers or to people who believe all of the same tenets as QAnon, but claim they don't know what it is. And the sound of freedom does focus on a real issue of sex trafficking. But that theme, it's sort of like that kernel of truth that feeds the QAnon conspiracy theory. Tell us how those two things work together.

Sure, and the most durable and the most believable conspiracy theories are not entirely false. There's something in them that is true and the rest of it is false, but the believers point to the one true thing and they say, oh, you don't believe that this particular thing is true.

In terms of child trafficking, we know trafficking is real. We know it has real victims. No one is denying that. But these films are created out of moral panics. They're created out of bogus statistics. They're created out of fear. And it would something like sound of freedom.

It specifically is looking at cue it on concepts of these child trafficking rings that are run by the high level elites and only people like Tim Ballard and only people like Jim Kovizel, and by extension, only people like the ticket buyer can help bring these trafficking rings down. So there's a very participatory element. You're not just going to see a movie, You're just killing two hours on a hot day. You are helping bring down these, these pedophile rings and save children.

Now, it's not true, but it's a very comforting and it's very warm feeling. You know why you have to trust this guy, Pat? He has books behind him. Anybody that sits with books? Smart. But notice it, if you work out your white, your white supremacist, whatever,

if you're, by the way, this movie was ducked, like, they actually have footage of everything that happened to Mallard because it happened. Did you see the movie? I saw the movie. I saw the movie and I was still on Pat. Some crazy moments are what they actually had footage, undercover footage or surveillance footage of people in third world countries and stuff, going up to people like a kid wanders in the street, they grab them in a van and they're gone.

It's not a conspiracy theorist. And then it begs the question when people are like, why does one side want open borders? And why is it, if you think about it Pat, there's a fact, 350,000 unaccompanied minors come across a border since 2021, so right now, 85,000 of them have gone missing. And then that begs the question, why is one side just like, no, the border's secure, my orc is that little rat. No, the border's open. That is just an inventory of just human beings coming in, and it's like for them to say

that it's QAnon and it's fake. It's like, they're almost, they don't want people messing with their influx of children. It's a huge problem. And yes, they made money off this movie, but now look how many people are talking about sex trafficking and these kids and at least somebody now was opening their mouth.

And by the way, this movie was made five years ago. I don't know if you guys, this movie's old. Now it's a Switch movie. That's kind of freedom. Nobody want to put out, go ahead, go ahead. Well, it was made by movie that kind of freedom. Yeah, nobody really got it. I got it. Well, it was it was made by Fox before the Disney acquisition. So then Disney, they essentially didn't release it. They didn't want to release it. They they sold it to this other studio and this studio actually had to crowd fun to get a theatrical release. So that's kind of

what's ironic about the fact that it did beat Indiana Jones. At least for one weekend is that this could have been money going to Disney, but it's also kind of suspicious why didn't Disney want to release this movie? Is it not in line with their branding? And by the way, isn't Disney a kids channel? Isn't it like about kids and protecting kids? So why wouldn't you want to protect kids worldwide? Is that kind of weird? Yeah, they don't really want to.

And there's in the shock in law and that they're talking all this stuff about about conspiracy Are you trying to act like Epstein didn't have an island in flu? Yeah, that we know this for a fact that this happened. He was murdered. Don't believe the hype He was suicide himself. That's all bullshit CNN producers getting caught left and right for pedophilia the the numbers are staggering It's in the news. It's not reported a lot and just just perverted people pet to catch a predator. You guys know that show? Yes, we had Chris Hansen on here. That's what? That show can be can run every single day for forever. Cause there's an imp there's no shortage of pedophiles. The only reason that show stopped is because one of these 88 demons ran in the house and killed himself. And that's what's frustrating about that CNN guy.

He's acting like moral outrage over this is bad or unwarranted. He's asking, oh, it's to spread fear. Yeah, you should be afraid for your children. You should be actively trying to prevent this. Why is moral outrage bad when this is something that's objectively evil? This is an area to be intolerant, like zero tolerance for this. By the way, watch this. So Rolling Stone, look how different the titles are.

Sound of freedom, this is a superhero movie for dads with brain warms. The QAnon thing, the thriller about child trafficking is designed to appeal the conscience of a conspiracy-addled boomer. Okay, pretty well, now let's go to the next one. Watch this next one here. The Guardian, QT's review, Netflix's controversial child exploitation film is bold, flawed,

and misunderstood. Misunderstood. Okay, so here's the next one. QT's review, a coming of age movie caught in the cultural wars thanks to a major marketing mistake. This award-winning French movie has been accused of sexualizing girls. It's actually a sensitive portrait of growing pains that deserve to be seen. You are eating me, hitting. Go to the next one.

Okay, the human traffic film, Sound of Freedom Trash by liberal outlets as QAnon adjacent. So when you see this, then go to the article about post-millennial that talks about, if you can pull this up, that talks about Rolling Stone, Editor-in-Chief Spike reporting on friend getting arrested for child porn. This was a story from March of 21st of this year. If you wanna go to page 24,

if you can pull that up, that picture right there, because that's the article right there. I'll read it to you. So Rolling Stone Editor-in-Chief Noah, Shaqtman removed references to child pornography charges from a story about ABC's producer James Gordon Meek, who was later charged with possessing child pornography. Shaqtman, who was friendly

with Meek, edited the piece and Earth journalist Tatiana Seagull, not to include the words child pornography. And the story claiming that the FBI's interest in me was unrelated to national security or journalism. Shaqman's decision to edit the story and remove key information about the child pornography investigation raised concerns with enrolling stone. Seagull was reportedly not aware the changes until the article was published

and was angered by what she saw as interference Shaqman justified his edits by stating that Seagull had not adequately verified her sources. When you read this stuff, this is what we ought to be intolerant towards. Right. And there, I don't know if you guys are familiar with the meme from our Mac entire, don't make me tap the sign.

And it's just this post that says, it's not that complicated. They just want to do little kids. And I think we all have a normalcy bias where we would like to think This is just not that common shadowy. It doesn't really affect our lives But this is like you said, it's everywhere. It's very common It's too common and there are a lot of policies that we could actively change that would prevent this things like closing the border because there is a huge porous. I mean, I remember what is it? Melania Trump she got made fun of when she was talking about the coyotes on that recorded tape and how that was an issue. I mean, the left wing media,

like what is she things happening? Baba, but you don't have to say anything about it, but the fact that you're even going out of your way to discredit this problem, it's very suspicious. That's all, it's very suspicious. They're protecting their own. Like that's how the left operates. For the, and my dude, that guy's name was miles Cle the Rolling Stone guy who locked down his Twitter account like a pussy

Because if he couldn't take the the flag of like you mean to tell me girls Working is a coming of age and a culture like what the hell would you qualify that as whole tendency for him to Yeah, Rob, I just sent you something on how grooming works. Check this out. If you can play well, show this meme here, Rob, I just text you and I put it on your computer. So the question that becomes a final one, right? We got five more minutes here before we wrap up.

I wish we had more time and we got like so many freaking stories to go through, but I got a lot more to talk about. Max haven't called. So if you can pull this up, does this work is this an effective strategy? Wow, here we go. Let me just show you this picture here from a kid in 2015 to 2022.

That's the kid on the left now grown man on the right. Bingo, grooming works. It's actually very effective strategy. And yes, you can convert due to your environment. Do a video on the history of LGBTQ, the dark history. The dark history. And I got a lot of messages about it,

people say, Pat, I don't know if you should upload this. I don't know if you haven't seen that clip. I suggest you go watch it because it tells you how it got started and how it was categorized just in 1973, 50 years ago. And what's been happening with this level of growth and conversion of people by generations, you know how they say, the older generation doesn't give a shit, the older generation

doesn't give a shit, what do you think about them? Like, dude, if they're gonna smoke, we guess what? Who the hell are you? I'm 75 years on, give a show, what you think about me? Who cares more? The younger generation or the older generation about what other people think? The younger one, that's more.

The older generation doesn't give a shit. Do you know traditionalist? What percentage of traditionalist? This is a generation before boomers. You know what percentage of traditionalist are gay? 1.7%. Do you know what percentage of genes is gay? 19.7%.

So the generation that cares more about what people think. You haven't seen this? That's cool. That's a great question. I saw the Bill Marth. The generation that doesn't give a shit about what you and I think only 1.7% of them are gay. The generation that gives a shit about what everybody thinks 20% is gay.

Oh, it's not because of the environment they're born this way. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're, you're, you're, you're totally right. There are 70% you haven't seen this. I don't know if you in your video talk about the twin studies that they've done. So they do studies or they did some studies on identical twins. So if sexuality is inherent, you're born with it. It's in your DNA. You would expect that 100% of identical twins would share a sexuality.

I both gave both straight what had you. Well, what they've actually found is that that is not the case. There are many, many examples of identical twins that have different sexualities indicating that for at least some people, yeah, there is a nurture aspect of it and what's really interesting is that women more so than men were likely to have a different sexual identity than their identical twins. So that means that women's sexuality or whatever you might call it is even more fluid than that of men's. And when we see the explosion LGBT identities, guess what? It's mainly in young teen girls who are saying they're bisexual, they're pansexual,

they're gender fluid or whatever it is. But by the way, this is the poll from 2021. The one I quoted was from 2023, but even better. Look at this, Gen Z, 20.8% identifies LGBTQ. Look at traditionalists before 1946.8. The point eight doesn't give a shit about what we think. Less than 1% at a Marguerite. Okay.

The Gen Z that cares about what everybody thinks about them, one out of five. Well, I think there's a recent report that says for Brown University, I want to say, I don't know if it's that specifically, but 40% of students identify as LGBT. Yeah. Wonder what? Last thing, last thing to be here with five minutes left, guys, is Jamie Diamond. Jamie Diamond gave a speech. If he can pull that up, Rob minutes left guys is Jamie diamond Jamie Diamond give a speech if he can pull that up Rob if you have it Jamie diamond gives a speech He's at a conference. I don't know where he's at and they ask him about America. He gives the speech

I retweeted this and I said anybody that's willing to sell America like this guys I wish there was more the reason why I like seeing I Respect anybody who runs whatever country they run. They should be a nationalist of their country, being proud. When Putin sells Russia and his approval rating is the highest in the world, I think is that 80% or something. When he sells Russia, and we bash America and the approval rating of ours is low. Well, our history, we have a bad history.

We're this, we're that. Look at what Jamie Daman says to you. Go for it. If you have the other way around, America has the best hand ever dealt of any country on this planet today ever. Okay? And America's don't fully appreciate what I'm about to say. We have peaceful, wonderful neighbors in Canada and Mexico. We've got the biggest military barriers ever built called the Atlantic and the Pacific. We have all the food, water,

and energy we will ever need. We have the best military on the planet and we will for as long as we have the best economy and if you're a liberal listen closely to me in that one because the Chinese would love to have our economy. We have the best universities on the planet, they're great ones elsewhere but these are the best we still educate most of the kids who start businesses around the world. We have a rule of law, which is exceptional. If you don't believe me, and we talk about Britain, Brazil, Russia, and the Venezuelan Argentina, China, India, believe me, it's not quite there.

We have a magnificent work ethic. We have innovation from the core of our bones. You can ask anyone in this room, what can you do to be more productive, ask your assistants, factory floors We do it. It's not just this deep jobs. It's this broad death. We're the wise and deepest Financial markets the world's ever seen Okay, and if you I just made a list of these things and maybe I missed something go it's extraordinary It's extraordinary. It is to sell America

Yes, we have problems how easy it is By the way, do you know when this speech was from? No. Take a guess. I don't care if it's 10 years ago or month of the Gourd Day. That's my point. I don't care when it is. No, that's great.

It's time. Yeah, that's my point. This speech was in 2016. America, baby. Think about where we've come in the last eight years, seven years since this speech. It's as relevant and as pointed as ever. And he's being called upon by what Bill Akman these days left and right, probably got to run.

Now's your chance, not your chance. He's 67 years old, worth almost $2 billion. By the way, forget about the fact that he's 67 or $2 billion. You know, he's got a $900 million art collection and a secret building, he's built. What have you seen? This is a full 100. Pull up Jamie Dimes $900 million art collection. Let a secret building he's built. What have you seen? This is a whole hundred.

Pull up Jamie Dimes $900 million dollar art collection. Let me tell you more about the sky. Do you know he was an assistant, a personal assistant to Sandy Wow. You know what company in 1982? American Express. That's where the sky got started. As an assistant to Sandy Wow. And more importantly today, do you know how much money

every day circulates, which pays $10 trillion a day in 170 countries and 120 different currencies? That's this guy. One of his famous quotes he said, if you don't bring up the problem to me, it's your problem. If you bring up the problem to me, it's our problem. Trust me. You want to bring me to problem. Okay. I'm prefacing what he said But this but again, yes the Epstein stuff what happened in 2013 when they stopped doing business with Epstein And they said look we don't want you to be here You can't send the count even though he was with them for 30 years and they so we never communicated with them

There was like 1200 email exchanges with one of the guys daily that was working there There is that side of it, but the point here is we need more people in America to sell America. I don't give you a military. I don't give you a capitalist. I don't give you a politician. I don't give you an ameta space. Sell America.

We have such a great argument to keep selling America. I'll give you the final thoughts here before we wrap up. Well, this is going to be a very nerdy final thought, but I'm not sure if you're familiar with the work of Charles Murray. The bell curve gets a bad rap, but he talks about how America is one of the few countries where it's actually better to be born smart than it is to be born rich, just because you have the idea of self-determination. It's one of the few places where you can work hard and get what you are worth, which is

not the case for the vast majority of countries out there, and it's something that we take for granted. That was basically how we ended his speech. I know you got to run. Odds, he actually runs and what party he would run. Let me ask. Let me ask. Here's his answer when they asked me if he's a Republican

or a Democrat. He said, my heart, in my heart, I'm a Democrat, in my brain, I'm a Republican. He's always kind of, by the way, that's kind of like the script on you to see over a big bank or a Goldman Sachs, you have to say that. But it's less than 5%.

I think what is going to happen is is the sooner they get rid of Biden, the sooner people are going to get in. Does he have a shot? Jamie can speak, he can sell, he's charismatic, he's talked to everybody, he knows finance, he knows politics, he's been around, he's done the power plays, the guys are genius, the guy, you know, he's got a philosophy that he follows called the Fortress Philosophy. And you know what, his philosophy is have a ton of cash. He had a ton of cash. When they bought a Wammu, he had a ton. It's a very good philosophy to have. Yeah. So, I think

5% chance, but it has a lot to do with what happens here soon. The sooner they fire Biden, the sooner he can get in, it all depends on how quickly they do that. Here's what I do want to do. If you guys enjoyed Lauren today, do me a favor. Please go to our YouTube channel below. If you can put the link there, go subscribe to our channel. You can see our content there. Let's also put all the social so they can get it as well. You can, this is just one time you had a chance to hear out on our podcast. If you've not been introduced to her, she's a rock star. She puts out great content and she's provocative. She challenges. She pushes the envelope and she has her own voice and it's great to have you on and we appreciate

you for coming out. This was fantastic and hopefully we'll do it again in the future in the next 18 months while this crazy election cycle is taking place. Yeah, I'd love to and again, thank you so much for the opportunity. It's been a good time. And we're back Thursday again. Who are we with on Thursday? Charlie Kirk from Turning 4, USA. Oh, okay, good. Charlie Kirk. Who are we with on Thursday? Charlie Kirk from Turning Church. Oh, Charlie Kirk. Oh, okay, good. Charlie Kirk is going to be here on Thursday. Fantastic. So gang, we'll see you guys on Thursday.

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