PBD Podcast - Maxwell’s Epstein Offer, Mamdani Effect Is REAL & Trump's Shooting Was An INSIDE JOB? | PBD Podcast | Ep. 616

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Ghislaine Maxwell’s shocking offer to testify about Epstein’s client list, the impact of Zohran Mamdani’s rise and t...he 'Mamdani Effect,' and shocking new evidence regarding the July 13th shooting of President Donald Trump in Butler, PA. ------🧢 VT SUMMER HATS COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4lwj8Do🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠⁠⁠⁠🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:58 And episode 616, a lot going on, lots of stories. Over the weekend it was non-stop. The Epstein thing didn't stop. It was back to back to back, more people trying to apologize and saying, you know, what's the big deal type of thing they're trying to do to people. And then eventually, Tom, we can hear that, eventually Jeffrey Epstein's accomplice, J. Lane Maxwell, is now ready to reveal the truth of the pedophile client list saying inside or so Why are Republicans blocking or there was a vote this morning was it this morning or yesterday? When was the vote?
Starting point is 00:01:31 Last night they voted and Republicans voted against the Epstein files to be released Which is very very weird because this is what they campaign on and Democrats are now voting for this to be released. A lot of people are extremely confused to say the least, but I have an angle, I have some thoughts on this and I'm sure the crew does as well. Ocasio-Cortez slammed over defamatory Trump-Jeffrey Epstein post, Sue Ayo seen to bankruptcy, this is a New York Post story. Trump threatens 100% tariffs on Russia, this whole tariff thing is going back and forth. One of the ones that's very interesting is the president is pissed.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Trump's Brazil tariff threat is a part of a bigger geopolitical dispute because of what they're doing to Jair Bolsonaro. I actually like that angle, what's going to talk about that. Behind Trump's decision to tax Brazil to save Bolsonaro for you coffee lovers those of you that drink coffee Coffee prices climbed after Donald Trump threatens Brazil with 50% massive crisis have a lot of friends who love Brazilian coffee that were Calling better help their therapist Yeah, so Secret Service officials were aware of classified threat 10 days before Butler's assassination attempt, failed to tell agents guarding Trump and Vinny as usual, good point
Starting point is 00:02:49 saying it's interesting out of all the speeches Trump gave, the only one CNN showed up to was the one in Butler, somehow some way. Weird. Yeah, very. MAGA isn't buying Pam Bondi's explanation on Epstein's video footage. FBI's Dan Bongino clashes with AG Bondi over handling of Epstein Fawzi. There's a bunch of stories talking about the fact that people are stepping down and even one where Cash Patel came out and tweeted about the fact that he's all these conspiracy
Starting point is 00:03:13 theorists, nobody's stepping down, I'm going to be here to serve him until he asks me to step away. Tucker Carlson at Turning Point USA rips Pam Bondi for wrecking Trump's devotee career. He had a lot of other things to say. That's just one of them. Palm Beach is trying to capitalize on this Mamdani guy telling people that they're putting a plan together to track out of those 123 billionaires that live in New York that are sick of the stuff that's going on in New York.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Palm Beach is trying to say, we'll take care of you here. Come over here. Come home. Come home, baby. Come home, baby. Come home, baby. Come home to papa. We miss you. We miss you.
Starting point is 00:03:48 We miss you. Anyways, if you know that, you're about 40 years old. Come to Florida, Pablo. Pablo, honey. JP Morgan's, Jamie Dimon's, Skoll's Democrat idiots obsessed with diversity, equity and inclusion. Real estate inquiries by wealthy New Yorkers into Florida properties jumped 50% after Mom Donnie's primary win.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Biden says he's made the clemency decisions that were recorded with AutoPen. There's a story by Breibart that talks about that even, you know, Biden apparently says that he never approved the AutoPen signature for Fauci. Fauci is not happy about this. He's about to go vaccinate Biden and it's the last vaccination. It's not the good kind of vaccination. This is a joke, folks. I just want you to know, but we will read the story to you about what Biden says.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Obama making first fundraising appearance since Democrats 2024 losses and he went to Jersey, not because he's a Nets fan. He went there because they desperately need him. Jersey needs him. ICE, people not happy. They're saying we don't like these videos Mr. President, even though you campaign on immigration, even though you campaign on cleaning up the streets, we don't like seeing this separation of family and all this other stuff, not good.
Starting point is 00:05:01 And Anna Navarro said white people don't know what it is to be her because she's wiser than them. She said this to one of the guys on the panel that says you're a white male you don't know. Imagine flip it on the other side. You're a Hispanic female. You could be racist if it's white people. I've actually heard that. Desperate parents are spending thousands and flocking to southern state for the sake of their children and Tom is not happy about the story because Tom wasn't able to save that money on this story here, but he'll give us inside Jamie Dimon has a blunt message for Europe. You are losing
Starting point is 00:05:38 He would have been better if it was it your losers, but no he said you're losing is the anything called your losers He said you're losing we can talk about that your losers? He said you're losing, we're gonna talk about that story. CVS, Walgreens, Macy's, and dozens more bracing for 15,000 store closure this year amid brutal retail calls. Okay, 15,000 stores closing. We'll talk about that. Unsold homes surged nationwide as housing market stalls.
Starting point is 00:06:04 John Jones, this is maybe at the end, if we have some time we'll go into the story John Jones It's tickled over possible White House bout you imagine fighting at the White House UFC Trump is saying he's gonna do UFC thing there and I think it's gonna happen next year 2026 and some are saying Connor McGregor may come back to fight Mike Chandler, it's finally gonna happen, and John Jones may come back. It's gonna be a spectacle. Luka Donchik, not LeBron James, gives heads up about Laker sales. So LeBron is pissed off, he's trying to be traded. At this point, I'm sure there's maybe one or two teams that would have might picking
Starting point is 00:06:38 him up. Minnesota transgender softball pitcher left out of all state selections, and Adam's upset about it. So he has a lot to share on this one. He was not happy about it and I said Adam, stop, go to sleep. You can talk about it tomorrow on a podcast. So we're going to let him talk about it. Supreme Court allows Trump to proceed with mass firings at education departments and
Starting point is 00:07:03 then maybe we'll get into the Megyn Kelly-Ben Shapiro conversation. Newsome was on Sean Ryan's podcast, actually very interesting clips on what he talked about. His fingers and hands were everywhere. Every time I watch Newsome, now I think about you. That's all I think about. Thank you. And by the way, folks, Elmo was at the office yesterday and he was, listen, he sat down with our HR manager, Vincent Oshana, and it was a very intense conversation.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah, but it is what it is. Anyways, before we get into it, yeah, right there. Telling Elmo, I'm like, what is all these tweets about? And Sena was like, dad, what's APAC? I mean, my daughter shouldn't be asking me about APAC, you know, and I have to sit there and explain what all this stuff is and who funds Adam's salary. I mean, we don't wanna go through these types of situations.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Senna, you'll be receiving a letter in the mail pretty soon for a donation to Uncle Adam over here. A donation, shoot, maybe like a recruitment. They start early, Doug. They're like, we gonna get third graders converted. What's the favorite nation? A donation. Anyways, hey, so the Future Looks Bright hats that are the ones that never stay on
Starting point is 00:08:10 the shelves, and you guys ask for more of this style, is the Future Looks Bright where the phrase is on the flippin' hat. These hats, when you see these letters coming out, they don't stay a long time. And these new ones that we have, the black, is a navy blue and white typography. It is absolutely sick. They're not numbered. Well, we didn't order a big supply of them.
Starting point is 00:08:34 We ordered a limited supply of them, so it's gonna be a first come first serve. Gonna go out, we got the Miami color one. The future looks bright. This one's absolutely sick. When you look at this on the inside of it, Rob, if you can show what that looks like. Right there on the back end, yeah. And then we have another one that's the gray and future looks bright with the American
Starting point is 00:08:52 flag. And then obviously those of you that, the community that is just obsessed with the black on black on black. This is the black on black on black future looks bright. We call this the Chicago special. No, Vinny, give me the gray one. Yeah, the black on black on black. All looks bright. We call this the Chicago special. No Vinny, give me the gray one. Yeah, the black on black on black. Thanks, mine now.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah, the black on black on black is absolutely sick, but any one of these. So if you're someone that hasn't yet gotten the future looks bright with the phrase on top of it, go get one for yourself, get it as a gift, send it to someone, make someone's day, buy it for your sales team, buy it for your office. We are over 300,000 people now
Starting point is 00:09:33 representing Future Looks Bright worldwide, and we're 700,000 away from crossing a million. So, all right, having said that, let's get right into it. You said you wanna go through Jelaine Maxwell first. We're gonna get into the Jelaine Maxwell story first. All right. Jeffrey Epstein accomplished. Jelaine Maxwell is ready to reveal truth of the pedophilia client list as insiders.
Starting point is 00:09:53 So why are Republicans blocking her? All right, so let's go to this. Why are Republicans blocking her? Jelaine Maxwell, 63-year-old, serving 20 years for child sex traffic and charges related to pedophilia, Jeffrey Epstein, web of underage girls, is willing to testify before Congress with a source stating, despite the rumors, Jelaine was never offered any kind of plea deal. She would be more than happy to sit before Congress and tell her story.
Starting point is 00:10:19 No one from the government has asked her to share what she knows. She remains the only person to be jailed in connection to Epstein, and she would welcome the chance to tell the American public the truth. Controversy surrounds. The Department of Justice claims that there's no Epstein client list and video suggesting the 2019 jail suicide with a source close to Maxwell saying congressional hearings have been held into everything from JFK assassination to 9-11 JFK files. Rank up with those cases. Jelaine would be willing to speak before Congress and tell her
Starting point is 00:10:50 story while President Trump posted on Truth Social. For years it's been Epstein over and over again. Why are we not giving the publicity to files written by Obama, Cricket Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the losers and criminals of the Biden administration. Vinny, your thoughts on the story. I mean, one week later, from how crazy we were at Adam, remember, Adam, you were saying how this is a story for crazy, stupid losers? No, I just said losers. Oh, losers. Well, I mean, sorry, I had a little bit. No, no, no. I want to clarify. Yeah. I said people who are obsessed with this
Starting point is 00:11:26 tend to be losers. Well, did you see what happened, Adam? That week, for this past week, Google searches for Epstein, Galen, this whole situation. You know how much percentage it was up? I'm sure it was up pretty big. 1,200%. Pat, can we play this really fast?
Starting point is 00:11:41 Yeah. Go ahead. Is there a ticker? Because these are all the losers. Show all the losers, go. Is there a tic? This is why I could these are all the all the losers shoulder losers go What a massive? Unforced error by the Trump administration Donald Trump would love this story to go away
Starting point is 00:11:54 But in fact interest is climbing higher and higher to quote Jackie Wilson look at this Google searches Yeah clips I could hear you can't hear clips played again. Roger, come on in here. What a massive unforced error by the Trump administration. Donald Trump would love this story to go away. But in fact, interest is climbing higher and higher to quote Jackie Wilson. Look at this Google searches for Epstein. Jack Wilson, well, that's 100% 100% this week versus last.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And get this, it is currently the top topic search with Trump on Google alongside his presidency. So Donald Trump normally leans in, leans in the stories in which there's controversy. Like Taras, for example. This is a story in which he's trying to get away from- All right, Rob, you can stop it. Just with everything that's happening, okay, let's just call it what it is. Something is obviously off.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I don't know if the president's name is involved. And again, me and Adam had a conversation. When people think of underage, like pedophilia, you're thinking of those guys from The Catcher Predator where it's like a 40-year-old guy showing up in an apartment with a bag of Burger King and they're trying to hook up. What about hanging out at a party and there's a 16 year old that is gorgeous, that doesn't look like she's 16 and you're there and you're doing whatever and they have videos and photos. It's not necessarily that you're being with like an underage girl but you got duped in
Starting point is 00:13:20 this massage blackmail whatever honey pot and now they have dirt on you because there's no, there's absolutely no way, because people like me, Adam, the losers, that are fed up with all the stuff that we were promised, all the stuff. The war was gonna end in Ukraine on day one, bullshit. We're sending more weaponry to go over there, okay? All the accountability for the deep state, they're all chilling, they're all walking free.
Starting point is 00:13:42 The Brennan and Comey thing, I don't give a shit about. And something is going on where everybody, we were promised everything, Bonjino everybody came in all riding high, the moment they came in, everything's changed and now they're trying to tell us that we're crazy and we're the C words. I won't even say that word. So it's pissing me off, it's pissing me off because now they're trying to tell us you guys are move on and when somebody like Ben Shapiro of all people is telling me not to look into something and then go that's a conspiracy, I don't listen to it. It's absolutely horseshit. Something is up and in fact, Ghislaine Maxwell, this might
Starting point is 00:14:19 be a ploy. If she gets killed, guys, if she she's actually gonna go in front of a camera and testify in front of Congress and got from she suicides herself I want to see what the world is gonna say I want to see what the president's gonna say what all these people are gonna say that it's it's we're all crazy because if she speaks and she gives names it's over it's over first she's a dead woman walking and by the way before I go to time Rob you want to pull up the voting that they did yesterday last night, the results of it. So the Rules Committee voted 149, motioned by a misgoverned to make an order amendment
Starting point is 00:14:54 50, which this was in regards to the files to be preserved and release any records related to Jeffrey Epstein. Five to seven, they lost. And the people that said yes were all liberals, except for one Republican, and the people that said nay were all Republicans. Tom, why would Republicans not want to release all the records on Jeffrey Epstein?
Starting point is 00:15:21 This is now really, really, really bothering me. This vote last night, I asked this question. Why wouldn't all of these people, because this is what people talked about during the election, during the campaign. And by the way, during some of their campaigns too, it's not just the president, it was other people, re-elect me, send me back to Washington, and I will make sure their JFK, MLK, the files are released. Some of these people, I want to find some their JFK, MLK, Epstein, the files are released. Some of these people, I want to find some of these people that were conservatives, they
Starting point is 00:15:49 campaigned on that. And Ro Khanna, who's been on this podcast, puts a motion out and says, okay, folks, I'll tell you what, let's all vote on it. Do we put a motion in place that says you should preserve and release the information? That's all Ro Kh Cano is doing there. And so, and it's just shocking who's protecting who because this is a, this is like a clear cut statement here. Oh, if he has something, we're not going to compel him in this forum to push it out.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yep. Yep. That's, that's what they're saying. And that bothers me. This really bothers me when I'm told don't look at anything, nothing to see here. I have a position. I have a position that I'm wondering, Tom, if... But on this vote, these votes are bothersome.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I know. That's what I was wondering. I'm trying to think strategy. That's all I'm thinking about right now. I'm trying to think strategy right now because it's one of two things. Either everybody there is there to protect the president or everybody is taking this position because some sort of strategy. And I have some thoughts, but I want to go to Adam first.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Let me hear your thoughts. Okay. In fact, I love that you, I literally just wrote, there's two things. Either, either Donald Trump is compromised, meaning they have something on him, number one, or number two, somebody else is saying, don't dare release it because we're on it. Or there's another or. Yeah. Or there's another or.
Starting point is 00:17:19 So let's go through all three or's. They're using it? So let's go through all three or's. So number one is Donald Trump's on it. Okay, all right, so let's say that's the one where he doesn't wanna go through. That's an easy one. If it's on there, it's on.
Starting point is 00:17:32 If it's not, it's not. If it's on there, prove it. But my suspicion to think he's on there is so low because Obama woulda had it, Biden woulda had it. They woulda done everything in their power. But what if they're on it, Pat? Let me make my points and I'm gonna hear everybody's thoughts. So the second thing that to me is if Trump's on it, they would have used it, they would have destroyed it, they would have smashed it, they would have never let him get into the White House, ever let him get to the
Starting point is 00:18:00 White House. So that's one. Two, the Republicans don't want to release it because a lot of them are on there and a lot of the money people are on there so they don't want to release it because of whatever reason. Let's go to three. You know, politics is super nasty, right? So just think about the game of politics. Play the game. Not as an outsider, be one.
Starting point is 00:18:28 We're not politicians. We're not in the game. You're a podcaster. You're giving opinions. You're giving your thoughts. You're giving your perspective. You're not in the arena. You're not playing the game in the arena, right?
Starting point is 00:18:43 You're not. We're spectators. We're spectators in the game of politics. We're spectators in the arena. You're not playing the game in the arena, right? You're not. We're spectators. We're spectators in the game of politics. Yes. We're spectators in the game of politics. Okay. But not go inside, okay, and play the game of politics. When you wake up in the morning and you have ambitions of moving up in politics, not if
Starting point is 00:19:00 you wake up in the morning like, I'm just going to do my job and that's what I'm going to do and what is the reports I need to look at to respond. No, that's a person that's just being a congressman or senator. I'm talking about you are super ambitious. Man, one day I wanna be the president, vice president, you know, house of rep, I wanna be speaker of the house. You're super ambitious, right? Nothing wrong with the way you're there.
Starting point is 00:19:22 What is the first thing you look for when you wake up in the morning? Controversy on your opponent to call their asses out. Okay? You're looking for any fumble you look for to call them out. Any fumble to look for to call them out. Right? Doesn't matter what it is. Boom.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Like Newsom's the best at it. First thing in the morning he wakes up, forget about what's going on in California. The first thing he looks at is, did Trump have a fumble? Did DeSantis have a fumble? Did Nashville, Tennessee have a fumble? Did Texas have a fumble? Let me call their asses out. Why is he doing that?
Starting point is 00:19:53 He's trying to be number one. He wants to be a president, okay? In the last six months, President Trump hasn't had a bigger fumble than this one. What has Clinton said about it? Zero. What has Hillary Clinton said zero? What's Biden said about it? Nothing. How about Jill? How about Barack? How about Michelle? How about Schumer? Why haven't they said anything about this is a big this is an easy opportunity to do one of these things You think Obama's gonna get a letter chance like that go you think Clinton's Hillary you think Hillary's gonna let a letter of chance like that. Go, you think Clinton's Hillary? You think Hillary's gonna let a chance go? Crickets.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Can I ask why they haven't said anything? Why haven't you said anything? Is it because you're such a statesman and you're so noble and it's not the proper thing to do because we're not the president today and we're not like other people that go after the prior administration? I mean, Obama went after.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Never stood before. Obama went after Bush. Every chance he had. I've inherited this, I've Obama went after Bush. Obama went after Bush every chance he had. I've inherited this. I've inherited all of this. Half of the Americans who never knew it, the majority of immigrants who came to America and didn't know what the word inherited meant, they did right after Obama became president because you used the word every flipping day. I inherited this from the Bush previous administration. And how come you're not going after him? Why not? Rob, maybe I'm wrong, can you go on one of these chat GBT or Grox and just kind of search it and say, what have the biggest Democratic establishment voices said
Starting point is 00:21:20 about the Epstein fumble President Trump had this past week. What has the biggest Democratic establishment voices have, the big fumble said this week, okay let's just see what it says and and and then we can specifically ask names. So Ro Khanna, but these are not the biggest one. Go go go bottom who's nobody knows those names No, I'm saying ask specifically like they'll say like figures like what about Clintons? Obamas Biden's Schumer Pelosi, you know the policies. Yeah policies those types of names that that's the establishment
Starting point is 00:22:01 I think Nancy did say something. I think she said something but let's see here and Clinton's hasn't publicly commented on it I've been on vacation why wouldn't you coverage okay but it's past that visiting the White House 17 times and flying on Fc9 in early to the Epstein went to the White House 17 times damn oh yeah Hillary Clinton has remained largely silent on the latest development. Obama hasn't had any public reaction to Trump's Epstein. However, Trump's strategy of blaming Obama and Clinton for a scandal shows how he's deflating responsibility.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Biden hasn't issued anything but Democrats in Congress. No, no, I'm not talking about Democrats. Schumer has amplified the issue supporting demand for Epstein records and using conjunction. Okay, so that's one. Speaker Pelosi hasn't spoken about the recent fumble but has historically led a first trans person. Okay, and this is Chad GBT. You know Chad GBT is generally going to be leaning a little bit to the left, right?
Starting point is 00:22:54 Why haven't they? Why aren't they saying anything? Why are they quiet? So that leads me to think of a guy sends me a message. I think Trump is playing 4D chess and all this other stuff. He's telling me this stuff. Okay, let's give that a little bit of credence. The fact that maybe they have so much intel that they're using this against them.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Could it be? Could it be the fact that Obama's, Clinton's, all these guys are so quiet about this Epstein issue. They haven't said anything They're just watching it from the outside. You're seeing Republicans fight each other This is a perfect opportunity to jump in and say something This is a very good opportunity to jump in and say something. You're not saying anything. Why aren't you saying anything? You're never been known for being noble. Your good friend, Rahm Emanuel, who helped you with the elections when you were in Chicago and you were going to Schwarzman hoping to get his support and Rahm Emanuel and Schwarzman
Starting point is 00:23:52 had a fight in that hotel room, you know, the event that took place where there was a hotel room or a conference. Rahm Emanuel, never let a crisis go to waste. Never. This is a crisis. You guys are letting it go to waste. Why are you letting it go to waste? Never. This is a crisis. You guys are letting it go to waste? Why are you letting it go to waste? I don't know. I don't know why you're letting it
Starting point is 00:24:09 go to waste. I'm just curious. It's a value, it's a worthy question to ask to see what's going on there. And it's crazy that you brought up, like think about that. Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House under Clinton 17 times. And do you guys remember a little fun fact? Mark Middleton, you remember who he was, Rob? Remember that guy? Special Assistant to Bill Clinton?
Starting point is 00:24:34 He's the guy that signed him on seven times, signed him on to come see the President, come see the White House. And that's the same guy that suicided himself with an extension cord in a tree, hanged himself, shot himself with a shotgun, and they couldn't find the shotgun. Weird, weird how that happens, guys.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Isn't that weird? That's the guy, right Rob? Mark Middleton, that's the guy, remember they shot him? And the detectives were like, yeah, this is suicide. They're like, but guess what, can't find the gun. Weird, it's weird's they're eerily Quiet and what were you with this? so, you know, I've been watching a lot of people over the weekend sort of
Starting point is 00:25:13 Have very emotional responses to what's going on here and I put these people in three categories there's Stupid people and really stupid. That's just your third category. Vinny, I'll save the best for last. There's the people who want the truth and they're frustrated. And they have every right of knowing that I totally get those people totally understand that. The second tier of people I believe are people who are eating their popcorn watching this. It's like Game of Thrones and House of Cards and Tiger King all in one for these type of people and then there's a third type of people like my friend Vinnie who I love very much and
Starting point is 00:25:49 Jeffrey Epstein is living rent-free in your head and you can't shake it and every morning you wake up you're like dude we need more information on Epstein actually I don't like it's like you're watching the show and you're speculating oh it's this guy it could be. I don't know what's going on when the reality is and I mean this sincerely You don't know shit, bro. Oh, yes, I do. No, you don't as I do because I'll retort You're done if Pam Bondi is saying certain something and cash Patel is saying something I believe that and Dan Begina was saying something and Trump is saying something wouldn't lie Adam. You're right Okay, I'm not saying that I'm just saying you don't know
Starting point is 00:26:27 So I have the humility and I have the capacity to say, you know, what does this matter? Yeah Can I control any of this? Zero if Pam bondi can't control this and damn bond You know can't control this and cash for tell who basically can't control this and Dan Bongino can't control this and cash Patel who basically platformed himself on this issue can't solve this Vinny ain't solving this home who said I'm trying to solve you are not because you put yourself out there okay good and you act like you're the authority on this you're not to Adam and you have those three my final point here is our common theme that we talked about in this show signal versus noise to
Starting point is 00:27:04 me this is a whole bunch of noise. You're searching for Bigfoot when I'm trying to get rich and create things in my life. So good luck with your search or I'm going to go live in reality. And I'm not downplaying the significance of this. I'm saying for most people who are fat, lazy, broke, the people I'm talking about, they're obsessed with stuff like this. When they have so many personal issues in their life They can't fix so they basically deflect and say yeah, but Epstein yeah, but the tiger king Yeah, did you see what happened on Game of Thrones? No, I didn't because I'm actually doing bigger things
Starting point is 00:27:39 I'm not do you think people so bigger than so you and that analyze it and you say there's three groups Okay of the three groups you say, Adam, what is the percent size of each one? Is it third, a third, a third, as you see it, just as you estimate it? Because you said you broke it into three groups, you observed. Maybe, maybe not, I don't know, I haven't done the exact math. No, but that's a very valid question. What he's asking you is, what do you think the majority of people in America fall? These are the types of questions we ask on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:28:08 You don't have to get 100% right, but what is your assumption of where people fall? I would say there's a vast percentage of people who genuinely care about this. More than 50? I care about this. Group A. Let's be real clear here. This isn't a top three issue for me. It may be a top 10 issue. I don't think it's a top three issue for me. It may be a top 10 issue. I think I don't
Starting point is 00:28:25 think it's a top three for most Americans. I think most Americans wake up, they want to work, they have to deal with rent or the mortgage or the cost of living. They want to deal with their kids, they want to take their kids to school. It's summer right now. They're worried about immigration, the border. I don't think the average person's waking up going, did we find out about Epstein? So that was a 45 second response. No, that was a seven second response. No, there was a seven second response No, there's no way that was what percentage falls in the category of people that care either say you can't answer it
Starting point is 00:28:52 We'll move on. No, no, but don't take two minutes. I didn't take two minutes. Take the took seven seconds We can just run from 45 seconds. Okay, I'm gonna just come back I know but the reality is hang on people don't care about Going around for 30 seconds. Adam, you said so much and so much of it was bullshit. So I have to kind of process it in my brain because you think people like me wake up every morning and no Adam, I wake up, I listen to 432 Hertz Comm,
Starting point is 00:29:22 I go to the gym, I do my thing. And I can walk, Adam, like the average American, walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. I could worry about money, I could be investing. Tom took frickin' 20 minutes of his time this morning to help me with my investments, help me with my stuff, and guess what? I could still think about that scene.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And the thing is, Adam, here's the real thing. All the victims that are out there, none of them are in your family, your nieces, your nephew, none of them were raped, none of them are in your family. Your nieces, your nephews, none of them were raped, none of them were trafficked, Adam. So I could see where you wouldn't give a shit. No, hold on. Adam, you don't care about the kids that much.
Starting point is 00:29:53 No, no, no, no, hold on. Let me finish. That's a bullshit argument. No, it's not a bullshit argument. Because no, just like when the border, when these illegals rape, hold on, and murder, wait a minute. So these are the only kids in the world that are dealing with tragedy. It's just these kids. No Adam
Starting point is 00:30:08 It's not everywhere in the world Adam. These are the only kids we're gonna worry about Okay, Adam again, I can walk into bubblegum at the same time Okay, cuz you're like what about all the other stuff and guess what Trump is close the border. Okay, those rapes and killings Barely even happening from illegals. Okay? Tariffs, everything is kicking ass. The main problem right now is you ran, they all ran on Epstein, Epstein, Deep State, everybody, we're gonna get them. Now that they're here and they're kicking ass on everything else. Is that what they ran on though?
Starting point is 00:30:39 Hell yeah they did. Was that their top priority? How many questions did they- Because I'm pretty damn sure it was the economy and immigration. Okay, Adam, and I'll be the Trump-tayor on Jeffrey Epstein. Hold on, bullshit, how many interviews were said? Vinny, you think that was the top thing?
Starting point is 00:30:55 Let me finish. This is my whole point. How many interviews where he sat down- This is the number one thing in the world. How many interviews did Donald Trump sit down and they asked JFK files? Yes Epstein. Yes But wait a minute. He said no hang on hang on. He said no guys pump the brakes. Let me bring it back Okay When you when you think about how many interviews he did where people asked?
Starting point is 00:31:20 You're right. Okay when you're asking what people asked. However, if you go to, Rob, I'm going to send this to you, this is what they call the Agenda 47. And they call this the Agent 47 Promise. And this is Trump's promise. Rob, I'm going to send it to you if you can, just pull it up and we'll go through it one by one by one. And these were things that he said he was going to do for the election and what things they focused on.
Starting point is 00:31:52 For us, we try to be as fair as possible here. Rob, if you can pull that up. I don't know if you have what I just sent you right there. This is the 20, and by the way, I don't even know what all the 20 are, but let's just kind of pull it up and see what it was. The market asks, and zoom in one by one, let's read it, 20 promised to America, seal the border and stop the microcape. Number one, he's done it.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Number two, carry out largest deportation operation in American history. Hasn't been done yet. 30,000, the biggest number in half a decade, not there yet. But they're working on it. And inflation and America affordable again. They're working on it. Make America a dominant energy producer in the world by far. They're working on it and inflation and America affordable again they're working on it make America dominant energy producer in the world by far they're working on it stop outsourcing and turn the United States into many they're working on largest tax cuts for workers and no tax on tips
Starting point is 00:32:35 done defund defend our Constitution of burrow and some of the religion okay they're working on it prevent World War three restore peace in the Europe Middle East hasn't been done yet sort of important but it's working on it yes but that's number eight and the weaponization of government against the American people they're working on it stop migrant criminal epidemic demolish the foreign drug cartels crush gang violence and end up okay they're working on it rebuild our cities including DC making a safe claim beautiful working on it strengthen and modernize our, making it without question the strongest, they're
Starting point is 00:33:07 working on it. Keep the US dollar as the world's reserve currency, major progress. Fight for and protect Social Security and Medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age. They made a couple changes to it, some will say 15 million distance add, but they're working on it. Cancel the electric vehicle mandate and cut costly. By by the way that was so this that number 15 is directed to one person Elon Musk. That was a promise that he made so Musk knew that. Number 16
Starting point is 00:33:35 cut federal funding for any schools pushing critical race theory radical gender ideology okay they're working on it. Keepman out of women's sports, major progress. Deport pro-Hamas radicals and make our college campuses major progress. Secure our elections, including same-day voting. Working on it. Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels.
Starting point is 00:33:58 So here's the point. Who put this list together, Pat? This is their campaign. This is their team. Oh, okay. Vinny, number one. I'm gonna come to you. Hang on, I'm gonna come to you. What I wanna say here, Vinny, is their campaign. This is okay. And but Vinny Number one, I'm gonna come to you. Hang on. I'm gonna come to you what I want to say here Vinny is two things because do you think I want to know what happened?
Starting point is 00:34:11 Of course hundred percent. I want to know what happened with Epstein, but to his credit That was never his agenda. That was our agenda. That was the voters agenda. That was the voters hope It was the voters hope to find out what happened here The biggest screw up is the following So when we go as a unit, what do I not like? Okay Like one of the things I don't like is when somebody makes a promise on my behalf. I never made that promise Wait a minute. No, no, hang on. Let's call them right now
Starting point is 00:34:42 Hey johnny, did somebody tell you that we said we're going to do this yet? Did I say that or who said that? No, no, Bobby said that. But did I say that? No, so I don't want you to go around saying Pat said that. Did I ever tell you that? No. Have I ever said that from stage?
Starting point is 00:34:54 No. Don't go around telling people I said this. I never made that promise. That wasn't a promise made by me. No, fair enough, Pat, my bad. No, all good. I just want to call you. If I said it, show me the text, show me the email, show me the video.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I'm going to keep my commitment. But I never said that. That wasn't our promise. We said we'll work on it, right? I'm on the side that I want to know what the hell is going on here. This is starting to become semi-annoying because when you have momentum, the last thing you need is an issue that wasn't a top three issue becomes a number one issue that disrupts the momentum that you're having that is self-inflicted that you caused.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Pan-Bondi caused. Bon Gino, Cash, this is a collective effort that they caused, all of them, the entire team. And now, unfortunately, everything rises and falls on leadership. So all of this falls on who? Trump. Trump, period. because me hiring you indirectly is who? My choice. I made the wrong choice or the good choice, the right choice. So you
Starting point is 00:35:54 chose to be a president the shit's falling on you. The way he's approaching this game right now and the way he's trying to handle it I think he's handling it in a way that's bringing more and more and more and more and more attention. Either move on, but right now the votes, Republicans are not saying no? What? Republicans are saying don't release this? You better have a good explanation on why you're not releasing.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Here's what Tucker had to say about it at Turning Point USA, Rob. If you want to play this clip of Tucker, here's Tucker. Okay, he's at Turning Point USA, and go for it, Rob. It's me, your brain. And I, your mouth. I act on logic. I act on taste. For me, Pizza Hut's Nashville hot chicken pizza
Starting point is 00:36:35 with spicy fried chicken, pickles, and creamy ranch drizzle is confusing. To me, it sounds good. Pickles on pizza? Amazing. It shouldn't work, but it's so good. Try the Nashville Hot lineup at Pizza Hut. Your mouth will get it.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Not acceptable. And I think the real answer is Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of Intel Services, probably not American. And we have every right to ask on whose behalf was he working? How does a guy go from being a math teacher at the Dalton School in the late 70s with no college degree to having
Starting point is 00:37:10 multiple airplanes, a private island, and the largest residential house in Manhattan? Where did all the money come from? And no one has ever gotten to the bottom of that because no one has ever tried. And moreover, it's extremely obvious to anyone who watches that this guy had direct connections to a foreign government.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Now, no one's allowed to say that that foreign government is Israel because we have been somehow cowed into thinking that that's naughty. There is nothing wrong with saying that. There is nothing hateful about saying that. There's nothing anti-Semitic about saying that. There's nothing anti-Semitic about saying that. There's nothing even anti-Israel about saying that. I've spent my entire life pretty much in Washington where I knew and loved a number of people,
Starting point is 00:37:53 including one very close person, who worked at CIA. That has never prohibited me from saying, I think the CIA has done some horrible things. Murdered a bunch of people, participated in the murder of a sitting US president. It's got a whole trail of crimes. That doesn't make me a disloyal American. It doesn't make me anti-American in any sense. I was born here. My family's been here for hundreds of years.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I love this country. That's why I live here. So criticizing the behavior of a government agency does not make you a hater. It makes you a free person. It makes you a citizen. You're allowed to do that because you're not a slave, you're a citizen. And you have a right to expect that your government
Starting point is 00:38:34 will not act against your interests, and you have a right to demand that foreign governments not be allowed to act against your interests. That's not creepy, It shouldn't be forbidden. And yet all of us have trained ourselves to believe that you can't say that. This clip right here is where they talk about Bondi and Bongino in the fallout. Okay, play that one here. Do you think Dan is upset because his integrity is being questioned now for her mistakes?
Starting point is 00:39:00 Oh my gosh. So you're Dan and you're a media, and you've got one of the biggest podcasts in the country, and you're making tons of money, and you're having a great time, which he was. You just built this brand new studio in Florida. You work with your wife, who you really like, which he does, and you get the call saying you'd be deputy FBI director, and you're like, I love Donald Trump. I love this country.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I will cut my pay by into a tenth of what it was, and I will leave my house and move to DC, which is a kind of prison sentence itself. And I will do this because I love the president, I love the country. And you're there a few months, and all of a sudden, everybody thinks you're covering up Epstein's crimes. And it kind of wrecks Dan's career. It's gonna be very hard at this point. Things may change, but as of today,
Starting point is 00:39:47 pretty hard for Dan to go back to his podcast audience and be like, I'm telling you the truth when they all think he's covering up for Epstein. Who did that? Pam Bondi did that. And I don't know that she did it on purpose. I'm assuming not. I don't think she's a mean person. I've never gotten that sense. But for whatever reason, she went out there
Starting point is 00:40:04 and said things that were not true, that she could not back up. And then they they issued this memo thinking that it would clear everything up That was embarrassing and I guess they're just so dumb They didn't realize that if you tell everybody you have the tapes of these crimes And then you issue a memo saying you're not going to prosecute anybody for the crimes. What are you saying? That's a very covering up the Adam, that's the most basic question everybody is upset about. That's the most basic thing everybody is upset about.
Starting point is 00:40:32 That Pam announced something and then retracted her statement? That somebody on Trump's team made an announcement that they're gonna do that, and then they're changing the time. You look like you wanna say something. Yeah, well, Pam didn't make an announcement. Pam got busted. Caught. Possibly just,
Starting point is 00:40:52 I don't know Pam personally, and I don't wanna be harsh here, but is it possible that she got caught in a restaurant and saying some things and says, I've told you a million times, you know, just hyperbole. And she got busted saying that. It became a news item overnight. And she walked not to a podium, but to the White House lawn and doubled down on what
Starting point is 00:41:19 she said. Is it possible that she shouldn't have done it that way? Is it possible that now that kind of put a stake in the ground and all of a sudden it's like, okay, now we've got 10,000 videos. Now what? I really wonder if she was just talking over the top with somebody, got busted because it was overheard, she's in a public
Starting point is 00:41:45 restaurant, not so bad idea if it was hyperbole, bad idea to be talking in a restaurant, and then you doubled down on the driveway on an impromptu media op at the White House, and here we are. I wonder. I, I, no Adam, say what you're going to say. I just, there's, if we can go back to that list, and that's sort of the center of my entire thesis here, is that I understand why people are frustrated by this. I too have watched Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I too watched Tiger King and wanted to know what was next. But my major emphasis is, I don't know. And either do you, homieie and you can say what you think all you want and I respect the hell out of that. But I mean this. You don't know and that's okay to say the hardest thing to do as a podcaster is when Pat goes, all right, buddy, what's your opinion? I go, yeah, I don't know on this one.
Starting point is 00:42:42 I just don't know. Yeah, I the humility it takes to say, yeah, I don't know what happened. I don't know on this one I just don't know yeah I the humility it takes to say yeah I don't know what happened I don't know if he was CIA I don't know those are two different things no thank you that Adam I brought this up to give you an argument thank you so I'm not what I'm trying to say to you is there is I don't know none of us know thank you for acknowledging that no no no but our friend Vinnie Vinny here just said he did know. No. Is my point.
Starting point is 00:43:08 The point is none of us know but we all have an opinion. If this podcast wasn't without you sharing your opinion, there is no podcast. Correct. People are simply watching this to say Adam's full of shit. I agree with Adam. Vinny's angry. I don't know if Vinny's out of control. You know what?
Starting point is 00:43:24 He's the only guy that's the truth. You know what, Tom? I like what Adam. Vinny's angry. I don't know if Vinny's out of control. You know what, he's the only guy that's the truth. You know what, Tom? I like what Tom. Pat, that's the, they get to judge. And they get to talk trash and say good things and say bad, and that's okay. We're talking opinion. Your opinion, which is a very valid opinion. Your opinion is he never ran on this.
Starting point is 00:43:40 He didn't run on this. I know. That's what I'm saying to you. You can give that opinion. And that's all I'm trying to say. That's it.'m trying to say. And I'm just mirroring Trump here. This wasn't on my top three. Just like we've had conversations about AutoPen. You know, this was not in my top 10. It's getting closer to my top three. It ain't there yet. And I acknowledge, you know what? I sort of downplayed the AutoPen thing because there's a lot of sort of domino effects of
Starting point is 00:44:05 yeah I don't know what happened here it's still not my top three but what's my point Trump never ran on Epstein he never acknowledged this as like this is what I'm going to get out there and do but you and people like you rightfully so have said this is my top three and he campaigned on this and this is number one and you made that up in your head because I'm going down this list And I'm also like Sarcastically waiting for Epstein to be in the top 20. It ain't even in his top 20 list. Can we acknowledge that? Can you acknowledge that? Yeah, I could acknowledge it. Okay, perfect. But here's so we're good Here's my thing, but it but what you say this it's in your top three, but it's not
Starting point is 00:44:43 One made it go in the top three the But it's not in Trump's top 20. Well Adam, and you know what made it go in the top three? The freaking lying. The sitting and looking in the camera and bullshitting us, thinking that we're those losers and those idiots that you're talking about. Adam, we're not stupid and we're not losers, okay? When a promise comes out of your mouth, I learned this big time with him. You know why? I would say something to one of his kids, Tico, just in a small little passing, Uncle Vinny, can we watch a movie? I say yes,
Starting point is 00:45:11 Sunday. He would hit me up and be like, Tico's going crazy asking me where you are because you said X, Y, and Z. When you make a promise, even to a little kid, they want the fucking promise. Sorry for my cussing, Pat. Let me finish. I get it. Who made the promise though? Donald Trump. Who made the promise? It wasn't on his campaign promises to American people list, but Adam. You know, like the thing that he ran on.
Starting point is 00:45:34 He's on camera multiple times. Sort of important. Hold on. He's not only on camera multiple times. Adam, the cash motel. Show me. Show me. Show me Trump on camera.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Say I'm going to get to the bottom of the Trump on camera saying I'm gonna get to the bottom I'm gonna get the Epstein list. Well, show me that right. Let me finish let him while he's looking that up Not only the president, uh his son Would you go find that video find the son of the video of Don jr? And then cash Patel how many oh on the couch and I'm cast just hold on show me I let you talk Let me finish. He's gonna show you you the Trump. And it's multiple here and on podcasts, which one's the other one and on CNN. He did it on MSNBC. How many times are you going to say it? And then the team around you, the Cash Patels, the damn Bonginos,
Starting point is 00:46:20 damn Bonginos entire thing. Who do you think knows more on this? You or Cash Patel? What do you mean knows more about this? Who do you think knows more on this? You or Cash Patel? What do you mean knows more about this? Who do you think knows more about this situation? That now knows exactly what happened and is covering it up? Cash Patel for sure. Okay, who knows more? You or Pan Bondi?
Starting point is 00:46:36 Pan Bondi has more. Who knows more? You or Dan Bongino? Adam, Adam. So I'm going to listen to them, not you. Adam, well hold on. You know why that's a dumbass argument What do they know more meaning they saw they saw the dirt Adam and now they're being quiet
Starting point is 00:46:50 I'm not stupid nobody in here stupid. Here we go. You know, the conspiracy theories just aren't true. Yeah have been It's an honor to serve the president Trump Donald Trump and I'll continue to do so for as long as and who tweeted this But no, but wait a minute I'm gonna go along with this and I won't just finish up for as long as he calls me. And who tweeted this? No, but wait a minute. This is Cash Fatau? I'm gonna move on. I'm gonna move on with this and I'm gonna just finish up with this. But Vinny disagrees so he must be wrong. Both of you have an argument and what's weird is both of you are right. Two people can be right on the same argument.
Starting point is 00:47:19 You're right that he never ran on this and you voted for him. As a guy that's never voted for a democratic Republican president ever in your life. This is the first time you ever voted on it, but you never voted on this So you're being Upfront with the audience vini's also right because what vini's trying to say is why are you thinking i'm dumb? There's hundreds of clips of a many clips of cash patel given a complete opposite argument of that We're not going gonna play it right now We got a lot of other issues to get into this was a fumble and
Starting point is 00:47:49 Ben Shapiro on Megyn Kelly, I watch this one as well where you know, he's like, well, what's the big deal? You know who my resources are? Here's my sources saying the fact that nothing happened President Trump but your vice president JD Vance cash Patel Pam Bondi and Megan Kelly's like well you can't say that because we can question that. Both are right. Massive fumble. All I'm watching right now is to see how the hell they're going to recover from this coming
Starting point is 00:48:15 in. That's all I'm watching. What different methods they're going to come through this part. Let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Next story, I want to get into a little bit of economy here. What was the one story that I wanted to get into? There was one economy.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Let's go into ICE. So his number one thing he ran on was what? Immigration. Secure the border. And he said we're going to have record breaking deportation, et cetera, et cetera, okay? Report, ICE agents arrest 30,000 illegals in June, the most in half a decade. Okay, now half a decade, guys, sounds like 50 years,
Starting point is 00:48:54 that's only five years, right? But the way they write it is like, you know, half a decade, it just sounds better when they put it that way. Some 30,000 illegal aliens were arrested by ICE in June. Obtained in June 30,000 illegal aliens were arrested, and this is a slight uptick from May 24,000. According to ICE data, more than 18,000 illegal aliens were either deported by ICE agents,
Starting point is 00:49:15 you know, and then bombed. So now the number of all deportations from the interior of the U.S. is still unknown as DHS officials say it's 253,000 illegal aliens have been either removed or deported. Okay, 62% of Americans disapprove of Trump's immigration policies. Now let me kind of read this because this is Forbes. Forbes is officially a socialist network when it comes onto Forbes. This used to be a place called the Capitalist tool, but I don't know who the hell is running Forbes right now. My God, it's a disgrace what when it comes onto Forbes. This used to be a place called Capitalistool,
Starting point is 00:49:45 but I don't know who the hell is running Forbes right now. My God, it's a disgrace what's going on with Forbes. I think it's China, is it not? No, it's not. This guy bought 66% of it for $800 million or some number like that. What? Yeah, he bought 60, he bought 75% of Forbes
Starting point is 00:49:58 for $800 million. I think at the time they had a $40 million EBITDA. But here we go with Forbes. A June Gallup poll released Friday reveals that 79% of surveyed adults view immigration as a good thing for the country, a record high with only 17% seeing it as a bad thing. Reversing a 2021-2024 trend, increasing negative view with a jump in positive perception, primarily amongst Republicans and Democrats, 91% believe that immigration is beneficial. The poll indicates a growing support pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants
Starting point is 00:50:31 up 78% from 70% last year, while support for stringent measures like increasing border patrol agents declined 17 points. And the border wall dropped to 45% despite Trump's administration's swift and visible response to surge in illegal border crossing during the Biden administration. Despite these shifts, 62% of Americans disapprove of Trump's immigration policies, with 45% strongly disapproving compared to 35%. And obviously the numbers between Republicans and Democrats. Tom, you see this number here, okay?
Starting point is 00:51:03 How it's being spun by Forbes. How do you see these numbers yourself? Well, I'm going to take us back in time to the first poll ever taken. It was taken to the pilgrims. 100% of pilgrims thought immigration was good for America because they could leave King George. So it is two different questions. Do you think immigration is good for America? We all came from somewhere. My great-grandparents came from Canada. We all came from somewhere. So number one. But number two. Do you think illegal immigration has been good for America? It's running 60-65 saying no. And you've got people saying do you agree with the policies the way they're being executed. People didn't like construction sites and farms
Starting point is 00:51:47 having being basically raided. They didn't like that. But you know they love the fact that they went into neighborhoods and took out thugs and criminals. So you have to look at three things. Immigration has been good for America. We've had immigration policy. We all came from somewhere.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Ellis Island was built to open the door for us here. France gave us the Statue of Liberty that said, give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuge from those far shores. It's right there. So immigration good, illegal immigration not good, bad people here, you gotta pick, you know, you got a blueberry muffin and you gotta find the bad blueberries and it's not a pretty thing. And so people are responding right now that says,
Starting point is 00:52:41 I didn't like raids on farms, I didn't like raids on construction sites, I didn't like raids on farms. I didn't like raids on construction sites I didn't like that and it's a but He's staying with high approval ratings on Plucking out the negative people and guess what you can take polls and take and put them side by side and create the narrative You want and what they're saying is, you know 70% or 62% people think immigration is good for the country. I think that's too low. If you ask me, I think immigration has been great for the country.
Starting point is 00:53:12 That's how we all got here, legally. Did you guys see Bill Maher with this actor, John Liguizamo? Did you guys see this? Oh, John Liguizamo is a complete leftist. Watch this, Rob. I actually really like this clip. Rob, I just texted it to you. It just happened. Is that Benny Blanco from the Bronx? That's Benny Blanco from the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Is it really Benny Blanco from the Bronx? Yes. Okay, so there is an exchange here and I love the way Bill explains it. Watch this. It's a phenomenal clip. This guy, despite by the leg was on, hates Trump. I know he does. I know he does. This is why it makes it so great great and this is on the topic of immigration. Go ahead Rob
Starting point is 00:53:49 Part of this is a backlash to how badly Biden handled the immigration situation It can't just be like come one come all which is plenty of good. There's plenty of room here and we need room Latif this plenty of room in America. Come on. There's not a lack of room in America. But it's never about room, it's about resources. And about, like having a, countries have to have a border. It just can't be, I mean, they've done surveys and something like 200 million people around the world when asked, would you come to America?
Starting point is 00:54:20 You could, yes I would, why wouldn't I? Lots of countries, excuse me, are shitholes. And they would love to be here. You can't just let any... No, no, I'm not right. The places aren't shitholes, but... Well, they are. That's why they want to come. And it's usually because of America, what America has done, especially in Latin America, has beat up every democracy that was burgeoning in Latin America and destroyed it to keep their oil or their resources or bauxite or bananas? If you don't really have rights, as far as women's rights in most majority Muslim countries, women just don't have close to the rights we have here.
Starting point is 00:54:57 If you can't dress the way you want. If you are in a country where there's just extreme poverty, which a lot of countries have, or if there's like the kind of corruption, and we have corruption here, of course, but on a level. Well, we have extra new corruption with the meme coin. But it is on a level in some countries that way, way more. Well, we're catching up, we're catching up. We're catching up, but we still,
Starting point is 00:55:21 there's a reason why people wanna come here, cause it's still better. But I gotta tell you, I mean, immigrants. I mean, if you live in a country where you can take a there's a reason why people want to come here because it's still better but I gotta tell you I Mean if you live in a country where you can take a chicken on a bus, that was always my standard Okay, I think I have the right to call that a whole country and I see why you want to come here It's not your fault. You live in a shit. It doesn't mean you're a shithole person But you're the misfortune of being born there and I get it why you would want to move here right, but the thing is that the immigrants that are coming here are building the country.
Starting point is 00:55:48 They're the essential workers. They are. They're the first responders. They're doing all your construction, painting, plumbing, raising all your food, cooking all your food, serving all your food. Kids, taking care of your kids. Taking care of your kids. We do all the work that nobody wants to do and keep and keeps the country going
Starting point is 00:56:07 I mean immigrants are the life source of this country. Yes, they are. Absolutely because again, we're both products of them Yes, yes, we need but what most Americans I think sensible middle of the road people would say is yes Of course, we we are an immigrant welcoming country country but there has to be some order to it. That's right. It just can't be come on, come on. He said something so interesting. He says there is plenty of room. Come on man, there's plenty of room. Let me ask you a question. How big is John's house? John Leguizamo? How big is this house? I guarantee you. Can you type in how big is John Leguizamo's house? Eight bedrooms probably you think? How big is this house? I guarantee you it has. Can you type in how big is John Leguizamo's house? Eight bedrooms, probably, you think? How big is this house? Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I want to know how many square feet his house is. Okay, is there documentation how he lives in a 3,136 square foot house, okay, that he bought for $6 million and it's worth $10 million today. It was a historic 1899 built home, right? And go a little bit lower Rob. And he's got another place that's 26 underscore feet, four bedroom, three bath on roughly 7.6 acres. And then he's got a Venice house and a couple other things. I'm not giving his address out. I'm just showing what kind of how this is public information. I mean, listen, John, you have enough room bro. Exactly you have a total of
Starting point is 00:57:26 10,000 square feet of Places for people to live that you should allow 50 people to live in your place now when I was in the army I mean look my barracks they were maybe 300 square feet honestly it was so tiny was not even funny So if we can fit you know one person per 300 that I would say you can fit two people per 300 square feet He should be okay with 20 people moving into his house. There's plenty of room there. John, you're rich. You need to do your part. The wealthy need to do their part, John. I agree. I think if he allows for 20 homeless people or illegal immigrants to live with him, maybe then let's have the conversation. John, lead from the front. Come on, Benny
Starting point is 00:58:00 Blanco from the Bronx. And as he just said, maybe they could do some drywall and watch his kids. He said it not us I mean, it's a very good idea, but I say we start off with a pool. You need a pool man Let's start off with Benny. Okay, let's start off with him and open up the house be generous. Yeah, John be generous But of course, yeah, and of course he won't he won't let anybody stay Don't doubt him. No, don't doubt him he's gracious and he's welcoming illegal immigrants into his house. I say we allow some of the you know some of the illegals that are coming from let's go to the border let's do case study. Take John to the border and say John we pick 19 people to move into your place. Especially
Starting point is 00:58:42 the houses that you're not there. We diversify because Muslims are safe. Here's three Pakistanis. Pick them up. Let's give you two Salvadorians. Let's make them because he's Colombian. Grab a Colombian. Maybe a Guatemalan. Maybe a couple Chinese that, you know, like they're coming through. Also do the computer stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Yeah, let's just mess them up. What's wrong with that? And you got four houses. So if they want to cook a goat in the kitchen, you don't like the smell That's okay. He likes chickens. You can be in the You make a lake point house. I know he was just generous. No and by like so he's from Bogota, Colombia By the way, so he's by like there's it's impossible unless something he can't be physically at all for those locations That's like you don't think you put them in that for bedroom. Oh my god, and I'm just curious there's always plenty of room
Starting point is 00:59:26 Do you think he's ever donated to anything too? I've never seen a cause for Columbia or have you are you giving money to Columbia? Are you helping people in Columbia? Why don't you go and give them? Listen, I'm telling you guys around to piss me off. Yeah, I get it. Stop questioning his generosity You're right the fact that he won't agree to do this, you know, he's gonna agree to do this I would be so shocked if a sensible, gentle, sensitive, kind, giving, gracious, extremely patriotic, yet at the same time open borders would be willing
Starting point is 00:59:58 to allow 19 people to live in his house. He gives me that vibe. And you guys are being nonsense critics to doubt the fact that he would ever allow something like this to happen. Shame on you guys. I can't believe I'm saying this. It is just inconceivable that he's a limousine liberal that would not do any of it. Stop.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Watch your language, Tom. You do not know that. That's a limousine liberal. I would never say he's a limousine liberal with a misspelled t-shirt. Never! From the Bronx, I would never say he's a limousine liberal with a misspelled t-shirt never Listen guys as we have on behalf of the people that live in Miami. I have taken in several Venezuelan Colombian Salvadorian Big booty latinas just in case they needed a place to stay here, but that was that was a one thing
Starting point is 01:00:43 I was a one time think he's is whatickeys? Was this a summer thing or an hourly rate? The reality is, and I appreciate what you're doing, but you're exposing his hypocrisy. Over the weekend there was a guy that was doing sort of a man on the street in London and they were talking about open borders, let everybody stay. In this case it was maybe Muslims or Pakistanis, whatever it was. And they're like, let him in, let him stay. He's like, well, would you let them stay in your house? And to watch a well, you know, I have four roommates right now and I really can't and I live with my mom. So I really can't do it. But you know, my girlfriend,
Starting point is 01:01:18 she, I would, my girlfriend, she wouldn't. And every single one of them was like, I'm terribly sorry, I can't. If I had more room, I would. All you're doing is exposing their hypocrisy. All of them. Yeah, come on in. Stay wherever you want. Can they stay with you? Oh, sorry, the room's taken. Adam, you're exactly 100% right. It's the same people that were like, bring up open border. Let them all in. We're going to send them to Martha's Vineyard. They're like, get them the fuck out of here. get everybody out of Martha's Vineyard
Starting point is 01:01:48 There was like 30 by the way true story true story. They wanted more cops in Beverly Hills, which has its own police force But yeah, I think you mentioned I think Ellis Island earlier. Yeah, you know the place that was Specifically built so the immigrants could be processed here and could assimilate in America Thank you. So like my great-grandparents came through Ellis Island. They came from Europe, right from Russia big donors to a pack, but What's wrong with being a donor to hate no nothing given like the member my daughter I've never donated to a pack already, but but I don't think there's anything wrong with that I've never donated to APEC but I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But the reality is this, what he's discounting is what I would call the immigrant's journey. Every single one of our first generation parents or grandparents had to pay the price and sacrifice.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Your father worked at a 99 cent store in Englewood. My great grandfather was a butcher. We couldn't donate to Goodwill. That's how bad it was for us. So every single first-generation immigrant doesn't speak that language. They have to get a job. They have to start somewhere. But their kids will be better off and their grandkids will be better off. It started with the Irish, then it was Italians, then it was the Jews, then it was the USSR, now it's the Mexicans, the South Americans. We've all our grandparents
Starting point is 01:03:05 have had to pay the price. And to act like someone is special, because they came more recent and didn't have to go through the proper legal protocols to become a citizen, you don't get to skip the line. And that's why here's the biggest point. The loudest most annoyed people are the Latinos who went through the immigration process the right way. They're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:03:31 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, And I don't think you have the right to white Adam you don't you're dead if you if you go to this clip I don't think I'm white because I'm Jewish you if you watch this clip watch this is what a white man Hey, what I want to respond to you saying that I was hyperbolic when I talked about a reign of terror No, it might be hyperbolic for you as a white man. Oh, it's certainly not hyperbolic for me for me as a Latino. So I'm not being racist.
Starting point is 01:04:04 It's really... No, I'm not dismissing your opinion. I am telling you that what Latino, the Latino community, the brown community in America... Okay, well let me speak with my voice. You said I was being hyperbolic. Let me be emotional. Being a white man as an insult?
Starting point is 01:04:20 Being a white man as an insult? When you invoke it... Do you think Latinos are living under circumstances that other people are here comes the work because there's a whole conversation about that very thing um but I just want to make a point that Brad all she's saying is that her view of the situation is different from yours Abby you're so cute sticking up for I'm sticking up for the racist. Sticking up for the racist. Why the hell isn't Navarro?
Starting point is 01:04:50 What the hell was that stupid white guy thinking like stay on the view line. Stupid ass white guy. Abby with a sly grin. Caitlin Clark. We even have a white guy right there. Let's go talk about this. Canadians, very white. Jamie Dimon has a blunt message for Europe.
Starting point is 01:05:10 You're losing. Jamie Dimon said at an event in Ireland's Department of Foreign Affairs you're losing regarding Europe's decline competitiveness compared to US and Asia, noting that Europe has gone from 90% US GDP to 65% over 10 or 15 years. That's not good. He further stated, we've got this huge stock market and our companies are big and successful, huge kinds of scale that are global. You have that, but less and less, pointing out Europe's lack of global scale corporations to boost competitiveness.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Diamond advocated for unified European markets saying everything should be a single market and specified to finish it in the single market also means common banks, common disclosure laws, common exchange, common transparency, laws and climate. This addresses Europe's challenge with trade barriers, incomplete capital markets and banking unions and fractured trade ties with the U.S. and China, alongside issues in energy, critical minerals, data centers, satellite communications, and digital services. Tom, your thoughts on this story? Jamie Dimon is right.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And he's pointing out, saying, once upon a time, before you guys with your liberal, and by the way, he also goes on to say, by the way, I'm barely a Democrat. So that means you're Republican. Well, yeah. Well, I guess in New York you have to say that. But Jamie Dimon can say whatever he wants. You know what I mean? He could come out and say, look, I'm in New York you have to say that, but Jamie Dimon can say whatever he wants. You know what I mean? He could come out and say, look, I'm a registered Republican now deal with it.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Right? What Jamie Dimon is talking about is the socialism and the liberalism didn't work. He specifically getting into things. He says, you have, you don't have a unified banking system. Santander doesn't have to be the official bank of all Europe. It's in Spain. But why don't you have a unified system? HSBC, the bank that's allegedly funded more currency washing for terrorist organizations,
Starting point is 01:07:01 HSBC, he's just saying, you, you're not the Bank of England, and you're not the only bank of the UK. There needs to be unification. And he's like, if you guys would just unify and not regulate so much, you would have kept up. But you didn't keep up. You were 90% of us, and then we kept cruisin', and you ended up where you are.
Starting point is 01:07:23 And by the way, you ready for this? They are trying to figure out in the UK right now Are we having in the recession or a contraction? because they've had a Tremendous number of billionaires move and move their companies out of the UK It isn't even close. They're number one on it with it with the Exits and so Jamie Diamond is looking over there and there are stats that back up Jamie Diamond. Where right now they think it may be a recession
Starting point is 01:07:52 coming to the UK. Other people saying, no, no, no, no, no, Pat. That's not what it is. You know what it is? It's a contraction because people are permanently left. You know what a recession is? You spend less in Q3 and Q4 than you did in Q2. And then you come back up in Q1. That would be like you having a personal recession because maybe you're in sales and your commissions were down. That's a recession.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Now, you suddenly spend a thousand less per month for the next two years. Why? Well, it's a contraction, I lost my overtime. That's a contraction. Well, guess what? That's what's happening and Jamie them is making a great point saying dude You're let your losers. That's what he said. She said you're losing and you're blowing it Well, the good thing is no one in this panel would ever call anybody losers and so it's not a proper language
Starting point is 01:08:38 So I would what are your thoughts on this story? Well, I have two stats to show you Rob Here we go. Jamie Diamond is talking about Europe losing. I want to talk about why America is winning. So not too long ago in 2010 our GDP Was pretty much mirror exactly what it was in the eurozone right above 14 Trillion dollars. So now we've doubled what a great data. Thank you, baby So now we've doubled what a great data. Thank you, baby Open up his text message from Adam. I'm so glad you immigrated here. Thank you. I'm such a loser Yep, immigration works. Meanwhile, alright, shut it guys meanwhile
Starting point is 01:09:20 the eurozone has basically done next to nothing so if while the eurozone has basically done next to nothing. So if the UK, if France or even Japan was the 51st state in America, the GDP per capita will be less than that of our broken state, Mississippi. So all the people in America were like, America sucks. You can't make money here. I want to move out of America. Go anywhere else you want, buddy. Hey lady, keep it moving, keep it grooving. Because if you want to go to the UK, if I want to move out of America. Go anywhere else you want buddy. Hey lady, keep it moving. Keep it grooving. Cause if you want to go to the UK, if you want to go to France, if you want to go to Japan, if you want to go to Germany, it ain't better than Mississippi M-I-S-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I. There you go. America's the best. And even when we're dealing with challenges fighting amongst ourselves, our losers are preoccupied on things that doesn't affect their daily life, it's still the greatest place in the
Starting point is 01:10:09 world to live and save that money. Yeah, I mean listen, can you imagine how awesome America is that you can choose to build a podcast where audio noise is great and you build it right next to an airport where there's jets flying by all the time. And nobody can hear. And you still love it. And you like freaking get fired up about it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:27 Like a tripping. You know what's the best thing is when people come to campus here and then afterwards are like, this is all you guys? Yeah. No, no, like are you guys renting? No, no. Are you guys leasing the land?
Starting point is 01:10:39 No, no. So are you in that building or this building? Both. What are you guys doing in that building? Everything. I had no clue what you guys are doing here It's called the American dream, baby, it's called the American dream listen for laudadel soon to be I don't care how much you try to sell me. We ain't moving to Belize But let me stay in here. Let me tell you don't believe why'd you release our announcement that we're gonna make you
Starting point is 01:11:05 Every single time I can tell Adam stuff that we're working on bigger projects to announce to the public. Now we can't move to Belize. Now we have to consider moving to Caracas. We gotta go through a fair game. Well, we'll save money. We're not building the synagogue.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Yeah, we're going to a complete, let me go to the next story here. Tom's got the jokes. Ready? Ready folks? Ready folks? Here we go. CVS, Walgreens, Macy's and dozens more bracing
Starting point is 01:11:28 for 1,500 store closures this year amid brutal retail calls and APAC. So this is a very additional. Let me read it one more time to you guys. Everything here, I'm gonna read it one more time, Adam, pay very close attention. CVS, Walgreens, Macy's, and dozens more bracing for 15,000 store closures this year
Starting point is 01:11:50 amid brutal retail calls. The APAC was just somebody rolling it here. It had nothing to do with APAC. But I got Adam's attention. Let me read it to you guys. Here we go. Thank you guys. You're building temples for me.
Starting point is 01:12:01 No, no, no, this is, this is. Is this, is Elmo on the show today, guys? This is important. What the hell's going on here? Oh, he actually is. Let me tell you guys why this is important. This is very important. And the reason why this is important is because Adam Schopps at Walgreens, he gets his clothes
Starting point is 01:12:14 from Walgreens. Walgreens is a great suit section. Great sweaters. And I don't care what anybody says about it. It's high quality stuff. Guys, I want everybody to feel what I'm feeling right now and not give a shit what everybody thinks. A core site research report revealed that 5,822 stores closed in the first half
Starting point is 01:12:34 of one year with John Mercer, core site's head of global research, stating U.S. store closure are up two thirds compared to one year earlier. Damn! Wow. Two thirds to one year earlier. Damn. Two thirds just a year earlier? We're not talking five years.
Starting point is 01:12:49 We're not talking 10 years. We're not even talking about practice. We're talking about a year ago. We're talking about practice? Two thirds? Talking about CVS? Damn. While openings are flat, so closures up twothirds and opening is flat. PPD.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Predicting up to 15,000 closures in 2020. Why are you surprised? I'm going to come to you. Retailer Kohl's, Pharmacy Chain's, Walgreens, CVS, and Bancroft Rite Aid, which close over 1,000 locations are among the high-profile retailers shutting underperforming stores. The closure pharmacies, including dozens by Wal Walgreens CVS, have created a pharmacy desert with good Rx research, finding that more than 48 million Americans now lack access to a nearby drug store, up from 41.2 million in 2021.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Online competitors like Capsule, Blank Health, Amazon are impacting bringing more to pharmacies due to their delivery methods and convenience. Tom, your thoughts on the story Well, once again, I love this. This is Daily Mail picking on the United States So from the land of bad teeth the Daily Mail in the UK wants to talk about us Okay, well check this out and you just upset a nice percentage of our audience in the UK And their dentists. That's right. Tom is an anti-dentite Tom give us a
Starting point is 01:14:11 The UK smile sort of the West Virginia of Europe so These people are saying oh no now forty one point two million people don't have access to a pharmacy Guess what Vinny that doesn't mean they don't have access to a pharmacy. Guess what, Vinny, that doesn't mean they don't have access to medication. Because guess what, Capsule, Blink Health, and Amazon are delivering right now. And you know Amazon has pharmacy services. And depending on where you are,
Starting point is 01:14:41 you might get that stuff in an hour. So you're not lacking access to emergency health services, like a defibrillator and a paramedic. They're not lacking access to that, and they're not lacking access to medication. It's just there is a shift in how products are being delivered. Take a look at the way products are being delivered. I remember the first time I went out and I picked up, looked like just a rectangular box, I saw this shoe box, I picked it up and it was heavy. I said, what is this? I opened up inside it. It was six jars of peanut butter, three chunky,
Starting point is 01:15:12 three smooth. I said, Kim, why are we buying peanut butter like this? Because it's Amazon prime. And we go through a lot of peanut butter of this because, you know, your wife, well, Brooke was two, Bailey was seven and you know, peanut butter, peanut butter and crackers, peanut butter and sandwiches. We went through a butter, peanut butter and crackers, peanut butter and sandwiches. We went through a lot of peanut butter. And that's when I realized, it clicked for me, they just delivered this free, you know, and wow. And so what's going on here is we're seeing a shift in the way products are being delivered,
Starting point is 01:15:40 but the Daily Mail is choosing to make it sound like that there's terrible things going on in America and people are in pharmacy deserts No, no, they may not have a pharmacy they can walk down to and besides everything would be behind glass doors now We can say I need one of those one of those one of those and the guys got to unlock up for it because of looting but it's People still have access to medication. They don't lack access to medication. And so, and by the way, that maybe the Daily Mail can focus on those charts that Adam brought up. That over the last 10 years, we've doubled while you guys are there.
Starting point is 01:16:16 You don't have the moral authority, Daily Mail, to talk about us and our economy, especially when you're spinning headlines. Tom's choosing his enemies wisely. He's going with the Daily Mail. Go ahead. Your thoughts on this. I mean, I'm just going to simplify this. Is anybody surprised that brick and mortar stores are closing at this point? Every single month, every single year, we talk about more stores closing, more stores closing, more stores closing.
Starting point is 01:16:37 This just happens to be the latest victim, which happens to be CVS and Walgreens and apparently Macy's. But it's been Coles, it's been JCPenney's, it's been Best Buy, it's been Rite Aid, the list goes on and on and on. Social media has taken over and socializing is becoming sort of a discounted thing of the past. I remember back in the day like the coolest thing to do when I was in ninth grade go meet my friends at the mall and we walk over and go to the movies and do that. And then maybe if we got lucky, we'd go to Walgreens and get some chips and snacks at
Starting point is 01:17:09 the end of the night. Now you can Instacart everything, Amazon everything. Hell, if I want to go get a girl on Tinder, like you could just order whatever you want. So socializing has been replaced by social media. It is what it is. So customers don't need to leave their house anymore. There's nothing wrong with that. So online carts have replaced shopping carts. Now if you're a business like these businesses, you're looking, you're saying, alright, do I really want to deal with these brick and mortar stores? Do I want to pay rent? Do I want to have
Starting point is 01:17:38 employees and margins that I got to deal with? Or should I just move everything online? All it is is just the same thing that keeps popping up over and over again just with different stores in different locations. Yeah, well I mean the model is changing and they're going to keep getting disrupted. There's going to be many more businesses that are going to be going through this, especially with the speed that's taking place. The one announcement that YouTube made, which I thought was kind of weird, it was a sign against AI, okay? And I don't know if you guys saw this or not YouTube announced
Starting point is 01:18:09 that they only pay for real voices and original content starting today that's today that is July 15th right effective today moving forward if you have a YouTube channel, a faceless YouTube channel, by the way that's a massive business model for a lot of people that create faceless YouTube channels creating content generated by AI with the voice that's being made moving forward, they're not paying absence on it. If you want to go to the next page Rob. So what does this mean exactly? So exactly, let me read it to you.
Starting point is 01:18:45 So starting today, YouTube is implementing significant changes to its monetization policies. To qualify for a YouTube Partner Program, creators must not produce original content featuring real voices. This is a very, very, and I give you my thoughts on this and we can move on. This means that videos relying on AI-gener, reused content or low effort compilations will no longer be eligible for monetization. The platform aims to prioritize authenticity and creativity, ensuring that viewers receive valuable and engaging content.
Starting point is 01:19:22 What content is affected? YouTube, AI generated voices, re reuse or repetitive content, low effort. We saw this one go to the next page, Rob. And how to stay monetized, use real voices, create unique and authentic content, add value through commentary or editing, avoid AI generated or recycled. So what's the point here? Let me give you guys the bigger point here, folks. It's so important.
Starting point is 01:19:41 It's so important on what this is validating. The more and more and more we move towards AI, the more and more and more we're going to value the human touch. Such a beautiful thing. Even YouTube, what do you think YouTube cares about? Eyeballs? Money.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Money, advertisers, even YouTubers say, about eyeballs money money advertisers even YouTube is saying that's not as important as us making sure human beings are being recognized so this is a very important position YouTube took because YouTube is saying we're recognizing human beings of content creators not machines and robots and I guarantee you at YouTube headquarters there's a lot of AI being used. I guarantee you, there's a lot of automation being used, but there's a lot of that being used. But people want to hear from other people.
Starting point is 01:20:33 People want to hear your opinion. People want to hear what you think about it. Yes, we use chat GBT. Yes, MIT came out and gave 10 reasons why, you know, using chat GBT isn't good for you because it's making our brain, you know, weaker because it's not putting it to work. But at the end of the day, the human touch is a magical thing that's going to keep happening. So the more and more disruption happens, the more we're going to come back to the human touch. By the way, I enjoyed your most recent segment that you did about the challenges of AI and how,
Starting point is 01:21:05 oh, you thought that the kids are gonna use it to cheat, well now the teachers are using it to grade papers. And basically how AI is disruptive, but what you can do. Yeah, it's insane. So you know, Say on that point, say on that point what you just said. So.
Starting point is 01:21:18 It was a great, just sort of understanding that the humanity within us is the most important thing how we use AI is More important than how AI uses us anyone could just type something in alright spit it out You gave an example about somebody wasn't me. I promise you this when they text you a response That they're chat GPT every text response I get from these five people. There's like five or six people How long are they it's just long no no it's not it's it's they take my message That they're chat GPT every text response I get from these five people. There's like five or six people How long are they it's just long. No, no, it's not it's it's they take my message Yeah, and I visualize what they're doing. They take my text and put it in chat GPT and say
Starting point is 01:21:56 Patrick that David send me this message. Here's what I'd like to say to him How do I respond back in the best possible way to not upset him that I did it? I and then I'm like, do you not know the codes on how to? Charge you beauty text message and you don't speak like that. Normally. Why do you why do you just tell me? Yeah, they should probably delete the part that says Patrick but David is American Using words like in the secretious, yeah ever uses that's right So the part that this MIT article was talking about, and another article we were looking
Starting point is 01:22:29 at with Brandon, is that originally teachers were chewing out kids saying stop using Chad GBT to write your paper because I'm going to find out. So guess what teachers are now doing? They're taking the homework that the kids are writing, putting it in Chad GBT, allowing Chad GBT to grade the paper. So teachers are now not working to do their part. So it's now you got double. You understand what I'm saying? Everybody's involved. Here's something that I want to emphasize and I think this is the central theme of what you're saying. Remember when we did the the Ritz-Carlton training, which was great. They brought in Ritz-Carlton. They talked about unreasonable hospitality.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Ladies and gentlemen, serving ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, Tom. No problem. I'm here for you. You stay right there. And you came up and you came up, you gave a speech and you said something to the effect of social capital has never been more important. And I actually wrote that down.
Starting point is 01:23:23 I was like, what does that mean? The ability to interact with humans and say, hey, what's up, man, how are you? Every single component that the world has been basically built upon, interacting with one another, has never been more important as AI, as chat GPT, as all these things are popping up
Starting point is 01:23:42 and making us more robotic and needing less human interaction that's when we'll start to see the need and the craving for more human interaction. Why did you focus on social capital and use those specific terms? Do you remember saying that? Yeah, of course. I'll spend a little bit of time on that. I'm going to go to the next story.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Here's what I'll tell you. A guy comes up to me. We launch Manect. A guy comes up to me and he says the following. He says, Patrick, you realize. Let me show you what I built for you. So comes up to me, we launch Manect. Guy comes up to me and he says the following. He says, Patrick, you realize. Let me show you what I built for you. So what's that? He shows it to me.
Starting point is 01:24:09 He said, based on all the content that you have online and all the material that you have online, we decided to take all your books, all your videos, everything, and we're able to get an accuracy score of around 98% of whatever you would respond to, and you don't have to be anywhere. This app can do that for you. I said, that's exactly what I'm trying to get away from.
Starting point is 01:24:26 He says what do you mean? I said that's what we build Manect. On Manect when somebody asks you a question you get real audio and by the way if somebody responds back on Manect with ChadGBT response on X you get a one-star. That's why I love Manect. People give one-star reviews and so you'll go to somebody and like I don't want to Manect this guy he doesn't give real answers. And then you'll go to somebody like this don't want to manic this guy He doesn't give you a lancer. It's not a good And then you'll go to somebody like this guy's a 4.8 star. I want to talk to this guy
Starting point is 01:24:49 This guy gives real answers, right? That's a beautiful part about manic that we can have a real-life conversation by the way those you guys that I got the story I want to get to net right after this a story about what happened with the tariffs for Brazil and Russia and Putin and Bolsonaro one of the things he's doing with Brazil is very interesting. But some of you guys that were competing for the Manek contest, Rob, if you can go to the Manek.com and go to the leaders bulletin, the dinner is about to come up. I cannot wait to have this. I don't want to announce it, but the dinner is about to come up. Winner is going to be chosen by the end of the month. Look at this right now by Lightweight. You look at his first place now for Lightweight.
Starting point is 01:25:25 John Kyrakou. He's responded to 61 complete on Manect. I manected him. He was just on podcast last week. Yeah, good job, John. And he's a former CIA officer, the first ever whistleblower to go against the government and he's responding on Manect. He's first place now.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Ashley Glenn second and you have Julio Gonzalez, accountant. He's given a lot of counsel on that. And you got a bunch of other guys that are competing now keep them on Ryan Oluf YouTuber he's also there you can ask him questions. Giancarlo Aji who gives very good answers a bunch of other guys that are on there right now if you go to middleweight go to the middleweight your top three will be competing in each category combined score June and July folks Dean Mason first place at 127 Aaron Mont second place Tommy Robinson You got DJ Shipley the man Navy SEAL team 10 stud of a guy Patrissa Belasquez
Starting point is 01:26:12 Constantine Koropov Wade Wade Wine good guy Roman Sharpe watch questions ask him Amy Dangerfield Bradley stud of a guy go to Heavyweight then you have John Mason Daniel the Brinkat who my kids were bullying yesterday for game of wedgie Sebastian Garcia Michael Mara Sardor Santino a bunch of guys so Paula Brock Patrick William Cap and then go to the super heavyweight she's gonna break a record this her Lindy Lee she's already done 278 completed Manect the record for the most Manects done in a month completed is 478.
Starting point is 01:26:46 She's going to shatter it. Vinny's right behind her. Timothy Ryan, myself, Tom, Elliot, Sauce Vargas, a bunch of other guys. And then go to users. Look what's going on with users asking questions. Rob, go to users all the way at the top. Yeah, users. Look at the users for new people.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Okay? Kyle and Webb, first place, asked 22 Manects. These are people that are asking questions and they will be also invited to the dinner of the competitors. Look at the heavy one. Yeah, and then go to heavyweight. Look who's at the top for heavyweight. I don't recognize any of those names. They ask me zero questions. Existing Zeus. Damn. He's asked 303 questions on there. Dalton, Dorothy. Dalton and Dorothy have a real thing going on competitively.ly doesn't play games
Starting point is 01:27:25 No, she doesn't then you have HECA Chris Ryan heck is awesome bunch of a Harriet on us One Eric so anyways excited excited to see what happens with the Manek dinner and we'll be invited to it Go download the app start Manekton today by the way some massive announcements will be on made on Manek at the vault conference Okay, can't wait. Is the dinner this month? No, dinner is going to be next month. Vinny, just, I'm excited. Another dinner is this month.
Starting point is 01:27:50 I'm excited. Alright, let's talk about tariffs. So check this out. The president is pissed. Trump's Brazil tariff threat is part of a bigger geopolitical dispute and he's trying to find a way. Rob, if you've got a clip on this one, if you want to pull it up, I think you do, if you can go to it.
Starting point is 01:28:08 This is about the Brazil thing on page seven. So let me read this to you, because this is when it's getting tricky, but I like what he's doing. Go for it, Rob. Are you planning to talk to the Bolsonaros about the tariffs? Maybe at some point I'll talk to them. Right now, I'm not. They're treating President Bolsonaro very unfairly. He's a good man. You know, I know him well. I negotiated with him.
Starting point is 01:28:34 He was a very tough negotiator, and I can tell you, he was a very honest man, and he loved the people of Brazil. He was a very tough guy to negotiate with. I shouldn't like him because he was very tough in negotiation, but he was also very honest. And I know the honest ones and I know the crooked ones. Far as right there. So President Trump threatened a 50% tear from Brazil, driven by his support for Bolsonaro and frustration with Brazil's Roland Briggs coalition, which he views as a threat due to its push for reserve currency alternative to the US dollar.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Trump wrote on Truth Social, this is nothing more or less than an attack on political opponents, something I know a lot about, and accused Brazil of issuing hundreds of secret and unlawful censorship orders on US social media platforms. The decision followed by Briggs' summit in Rio de Janeiro, which Mauricio Clever-Coron, a close ally to Secretary Marco Rubio and Trump's former special envoy Latin, said tipped the scale. And obviously while this is going on, there's a bunch of other decisions being made with New York Times even came out on a story talking about behind Trump's decision to tax Brazil
Starting point is 01:29:43 Eduardo Bolsonaro, his son, good guy, 41 years old, he's a sitting Brazilian congressman and son of Bolsonaro, has been lobbying US officials claiming the Brazil Supreme Court. Justice, Alexandre de Moraes, not a good guy, is targeting him and his father for fighting a stolen election, prompting Trump to post online. This is nothing more or less than an attack on a political opponent, prompting Trump to post online, this is nothing more or less than an attack on a political opponent, something I know a lot about, which happens to me times 10.
Starting point is 01:30:12 And so they're driving this. Now obviously Trump's decision to impose tariffs, described by Steve Bannon as, I love it, and a more move even he hadn't considered was made alone, according to two people familiar with the private meeting with Bannon stating if you drop the trial and drop the charges the tariffs go away time your thoughts on this Well, you know, it's interesting both the New York Times and Politico, you know I want to call it tariffs because they could point at the president. Well, you know screw you both Screw you both Politico and New York Times because you know the word you should be using here?
Starting point is 01:30:45 You should be using three words, economic sanctions and leadership. When around the world countries behave badly, the United States has shown up with these two words, economic sanctions, and it's because of leadership. And that's exactly what the President is doing here. Oh more tariffs gonna create problems more tariffs. The tariff is merely a tool of the economic sanction and tariffs have been part of economic sanctions forever. There's two big things in your arsenal you can use. You can use a blockade and you can use tariffs which cuts off oxygen to the economy of the party that's offending. Like when Iraq invades Kuwait and you're like, okay man, we're going to come in and save
Starting point is 01:31:33 them or we're going to have a blockade here. This is not going to end well for you, dude. We're taking economic sanctions. And so the president in the name of free elections and in the name of thwarting the false phony monkey trial and false imprisonment of Bolsonaro is trying to get their opinion and let me tell you it's not going to take much because he's about to get their opinion the other thing is they're trying to line up with with there's a very interesting thing in bricks and
Starting point is 01:32:05 They're trying to line up with, there's a very interesting thing in bricks and it's right in the middle of bricks and it's the eye for India. India's trying to play nice on one hand, on the other hand they're part of bricks. And so South Africa is South Africa. But Brazil, they're getting their attention, and he's getting their attention. But this is economic sanctions. This isn't tariffs. Tariff is just a tool. He's going after it, and he's trying to do this in the name of freedom, in the name of free elections, in the name of Florida.
Starting point is 01:32:31 The question is, is it going to work? That's the question. Will it work or will it not work? Are the Brazilian people going to do anything about it? Is Alexandre de Mora really going to give a shit about the 50%? The number that came out with the story that you see combined with the story. Now, Adam, I'm going to come to you. Coffee prices climb after Trump's threatened 50 percent tariff on Brazil. And so that, the economy is going to take a hit with that. Buyers are going to feel it. The 50 percent tariff is the world's biggest coffee producer starting August 1st as stated in a letter posted on
Starting point is 01:33:05 Truth Social on Wednesday accusing Brazil government of attacking free speech. Arabica coffee prices in New York climbed more than 3.5% on Thursday morning, later settled around 2.5% higher with a trader noting the letter is sending shockwaves across the coffee industry due to US's Brazil main coffee bar. Giuseppe Lavazza, chair of Lavazza Group, which owns Lavazza Coffee, warned on Wednesday before Trump's Brazil tariff threat, the tariffs between the US and coffee producing countries like Brazil and Vietnam would be challenging, stating the problem is to have tariffs between US and Brazil, US and Vietnam, US and all other countries, where coffee is
Starting point is 01:33:39 produced, predicting a rise in the cost of coffee in the US by approximately 34%. So we'll see what's going to happen with this one here. Adam, your thoughts on this exchange with Brazil. So I actually have a question for you. Why you've been so focused on Brazil? Because born and raised in Miami, I have a lot of Brazilian friends. When I think of Brazil, I think of three things. Soccer, beautiful samba beats, and massive corruption, massive corruption.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Everyone I know goes to Brazil, they're like, Oh, you got to be careful. You got to have security. Be careful from the favelas. If you go to the beach, it's incredible. And you know what, just never been a thing on my thing. I don't focus on Brazil at all. But I've learned from you. When we sat when you sat down with Jair Bolsonaro, when you had an entire Brazilian panel on it, why is it so important to you? Because there's multiple countries in Latin America. We hopefully keep them from going the way of El Salvador, Mexico, or Guatemala, these countries that are coming here.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Lula, socialist, we've seen what's going on there. Jair Bolsonaro has been called Trump of the tropics. I want to understand why Brazil has been so important to you on this program. Yeah, I mean for me, I named my daughter after Ayrton Senna. This morning I'm walking in a community. This lady who's a worker in the community, I notice she pulls up the car and she parks right in front of me and she keeps driving in front of me and I'm like, whoa. So then all of a sudden my paranoid radar is like,
Starting point is 01:35:07 okay, something's about to happen, so I'm ready and I don't know who's in the car. Then she gets out of the car, then she starts walking up to me. I'm like, okay, at least she's got a smile on her face. Probably in her mid to late 40s. And I said, hi, she says, hi. She said, I just wanna tell you,
Starting point is 01:35:22 we really appreciate what you're doing for Brazil. This is this morning, I got 6.37 in the morning. Yeah, I said, oh, thanks Is my son never misses a single show that you do he watches everything and I said, well, thank you and I said you about Yair Jair Bolsonaro Eduardo all the stuff. She said watch all of them, you know We appreciate what you got going on for Brazil. I told him about my son my daughter being named Senna. I love Brazilians There's such incredible people. I enjoyed their I love Brazilians. They're such incredible people. I enjoy their company. They're loud, they're funny, they're fun, they're good to be around, the food, the jokes,
Starting point is 01:35:52 the sarcasm, the soccer, the racing, the history. It's a great experience. And it's another place that when shitty politics get a hold of a great country, they destroy a great nation. As a kid when you grow up, in Iran, the number one sport in the world was football, in Iran. You followed everything with soccer. You always knew the names. You knew Pele.
Starting point is 01:36:15 The other day, Dylan had a meeting with the former captain of the Brazilian national team, Emerson. Emerson, I don't know if you type in Emerson, Brazil soccer, he's a legend. Emerson spent a few hours with Dylan and he's grabbing Dylan in Emerson, Brazil soccer, he's a legend. And Emerson spent a few hours with Dylan, and he's grabbing Dylan's calves, and he's like, he's got soccer legs. He's got soccer legs. Emerson, OG Emerson, old school Emerson.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Just tap in Emerson, Brazil captain. Captain, if you tap in, yeah, it should come up. That's the one right there. Yeah, this guy was a G. I mean, he was a legend in what he did winning multiple World Cups, I believe, when he was out G. I mean he was a legend and what he did winning Multiple World Cups, I believe when he was out there maybe one or two He won a couple of them. You said that when you went to Brazil and you did the Asylia, but I zilia you describe that city and like the communist they come and build it in such a
Starting point is 01:36:59 Communistic way where everything looks the same and they build it away from everything So if they ever want to protest to go to the government, it's so far that nobody wants to go to it. It's not a place you want to, Vinny, did you go with us? Did you go with us? Who went with us when we went home? Well, let me tell you, man,
Starting point is 01:37:16 while we're at the airport coming back, you're telling the story. We're waiting 12 hours at the airport. Rob, you were there, right? 12 hours we're waiting at the airport to leave leave and we have a direct flight to Miami. Last minute people are worried about what's going on. We just ended up flying to Peru. We ended up flying to Peru and then we flew from Peru to here because we have security
Starting point is 01:37:37 with us, the security is waiting. It was a very weird place to be. But the people, phenomenal. The food, ridiculous. We went into this one joint we ate. I just can't wait to go back. Except I'd like to go back when Brazil is free again, not held hostage by this kind of malachan. I have one more question for you on this. We consistently see certain countries in Latin America that no matter what, keep going back to socialist policies. like you see what happened in some of the numbers that have come out of Argentina lately
Starting point is 01:38:11 with Some what's our friends name over there? Javier Mele afuera about how he's basically reversed sort of the unemployment the inflation all the economic numbers the housing everything like that What he's been able to do in Argentina Why consistently in some countries in Latin America specifically? I'll keep it they keep going back to this be as socialist all simple and I'll go to my next story that has to do with this because manipulating
Starting point is 01:38:38 Brainwashing and owning the poor is a great business model that they use everywhere around the world and they're easy to control because you use the most magical four-letter word that starts with the letter F and it's so effective. There is no more powerful word to own a group of people than dropping that F-bomb. We're gonna give you free programs, free healthcare, free food. Oh my God. That F-word gets a hold of everybody and it brings the
Starting point is 01:39:11 worst people in power and destroys an entire nation. And this is the one that you're talking about with numbers that we saw on December 10th of 2023. Millet becomes the first Libertarian president. The leftists freak out. One and a half year later, this is what the numbers look like, brought monthly inflation down from 25.5% to 1.5% a five-year low, brought the poverty rate down to an estimated 33.7% six-year low, scrapped rent controls resulting in a 40% decrease in rent prices and bonus iris, achieved Argentina's first budget surplus in 14 years, delivered 7.6 percent year-over-year GDP growth in Q2 of 2025, and guess who is trying to do all the policies that he fixed in New York City? A guy named Mamdani.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Watch this here. Yeah. Mamdani, the stuff that's coming out. One time, I don't know if you saw the story Rob or not, there was a story of Mamdani does a podcast about four or five years ago In a podcast he talks about the fact that the NYPD shouldn't show up if there is domestic violence Why call the cops when there's a domestic violence call cops shouldn't show up? Because other people should show up. Well, what do you mean? This is literally a story of five years ago
Starting point is 01:40:24 Zoram memdani said NYPD shouldnít respond to domestic violence calls in resurfaced podcast interview.î Can you imagine that? So an idea of domestic violence, a womanís being beaten, no, no, donít call the cops because they donít know what theyíre doing. Go a little bit lower on the story. And by the way, this is not that long ago, Rob, if you can go a little bit higher so I can read the story. You skipped all of it.
Starting point is 01:40:48 So, Mamdani resurfaced that NYPD shouldn't be responsible for domestic violence calls. The Democratic Socialist said five years ago, NYPD shouldn't respond to it due to calls to fear escalation. If somebody is surviving going through domestic violence, there are so many different, different situations that would far better be handled by people trained to deal with this specific situation as opposed to an individual with a gun who has received quite a limited amount of training in general but also in regards to specific situation. Do you know what domestic, what is the definition of domestic violence?
Starting point is 01:41:20 Can you go to the definition, Rob, of domestic violence? Just type in. What does domestic violence mean? What does domestic violence mean? Zoom in a little bit. What it means. Domestic violence definition refers to pattern of views of behavior, relationship of one partner against another.
Starting point is 01:41:43 Spouses, romantic partners, family members, something, okay, spouses, romantic partners, family members, but types of domestic violence, physical abuse, hitting, slapping, pushing, choking, or using weapons. Okay, now ask the question, what role do cops play when it comes down to domestic violence? What role do cops play in domestic violence? Isn't there the word violence in there? Yeah. Isn't violence like something that you call cops to protect you from?
Starting point is 01:42:13 Yeah. And violence means violence, right? Critical role, by the way. In responding to preventing and investigating domestic violence, their responsibility can vary by jurisdiction, but generally include the following. Police are often the first responders to 911 calls. Their priority is to secure the scene, protect the victims, they separate the parties, they may help the victim get
Starting point is 01:42:35 medical attention, relocate to shelters, other kind of support, evidence collection and arrest. We've all seen the show cops before when the cops show up. This guy is trying to be the mayor of New York City and he makes comments like this. However, there's a city in Florida called Palm Beach, Tom, that wants to cash in on the Memdani effect, okay? That wants to cash in on the Memdani effect. So what is the Mamdani effect? Palm Beach County Business Development Board is actively courting New York City businesses,
Starting point is 01:43:10 sending 500 relocation packages to CEOs and executives as socialist Mamdani leads polls with 35% against Cuomo 29, Curtis Silva 16 and Mayor Adams 13.8. The board's president and CEO told Palm Beach Post, the second the results came out, my phone started lighting up, she added, it's a good thing we are very nimble, we can act quickly and strike when the iron is hot. John Boyd, who runs a Boca Raton based company aiding corporate relocations, warned the Mamdani effect stating, here's something one of my clients shared.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Even if Mamdani is stopped in November, the idea that New York is one election cycle away from becoming a socialist-run city creates an enormous risk for companies, polls indicate Mamdani leads after defeating Cuomo in Democratic primary. Boyd noted the perception could drive business and wealthy residents to Florida regardless of the election outcome. Tom. This is it won't take long to tell you Neutral's ingredients. Vodka, soda, natural flavors. So what should we talk about? No sugar added.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Neutral. Refreshingly simple. Wonderful. This is startup mentality and capitalism at work. This is when Pat and I went to a conference that was put on by a business organization and at that conference we met the mayor of Frisco, Texas. And by the way, this conference was roughly a thousand miles from Frisco, Texas. So it wasn't like he was in his home backyard, hey welcome to Frisco, how are you doing?
Starting point is 01:45:00 Can I get you a beer? No, it was, we were hell and gone from Frisco, but he was saying hey We're out here to promote the fact that we have economic development packages. Bah bah bah bah bah. This is also The governor of Texas Perry was running billboards in California Does this say suck? Here's one that doesn't right? You know come to come to Texas and by the way, they all flipped out California flipped out because guess what? California may be liberal but the guy that owned the billboards was a capitalist you have a check you have a message
Starting point is 01:45:32 Okay, we have a deal and so now Palm Beach County is like, okay We have 500 relocation packets going up to people and we've got the local real estate people saying wow Things just picked up over the weekend. Guess what? New York is about to shoot itself in its other foot. It shot itself in the foot with COVID and what it did in COVID and how people were upset by that. And people fled New York and left at that time.
Starting point is 01:46:01 Now it's going to shoot itself in its other foot because a guy whose religious beliefs are such that if you're involved with domestic violence with your wife, that's okay because you own her and under Sharia law, I don't have to be subject to a cop. It says, she burnt my toast, you know? One slap, one slap, good morning, two slaps, I love you. You know, one slap, one slap, good morning, two slaps, I love you.
Starting point is 01:46:26 You know, there's a whole rate card here that goes in this. You mentioned something about Sharia law. What's Sharia law? I'm starting to hear this thing pop up from time to time. Describe what that is, if you don't mind. That is an independent set of laws, of people of the Islamic faith,
Starting point is 01:46:42 who believe that they should be self-governed separately okay so is there a separation between church and state or mosque and chate under no they believe that that law is above the law of any jurisdiction any jurisdiction what they're living in because the laws of the infidels or the jurisdiction of a country which is run by infidels is Second to their laws interesting. I'm starting to hear this pop up from time to time now the Sharia thought law thing and this Jihad thing what other countries in the world practice Sharia law currently? Pick any of them any of them that surround pick any of them that surround... But Tom, you can be right, because what Chagybiti says is Sharia law is to practice compassion.
Starting point is 01:47:30 Go a little bit lower Rob, no you just had it. Where? Right there it says it's meant to promote justice, compassion and moral behavior. Oh, okay. Chagybiti went live. It is interpreted differently depending on the country and the school of thought. Sunni and Shia are the legal scholars. Which countries are using it the most, Rob? Can the question too but can you know the Islamic Republic of Iran
Starting point is 01:47:49 uses that interesting but can you there's no separation of church and state or any state is there any so are you saying that Zoran Mondani wants to implement Sharia law and you can't come up my wife burnt the toast under Sharia law you'll find out Oh here it is the in Afghanistan under Taliban control. They practice it. That's nice. Okay, Sudan where I think I don't know hundreds of Oh wait look at Afghanistan bullet to we read that one Adam. You're very interested in learning about this How about Afghan Afghanistan bullet to yeah includes bans on female education beyond grade 6 public beatings and morality police enforcement. Oh, they do police Says
Starting point is 01:48:33 Compassion well this is compassion they let up to grade six. Can you ask Chad to grade six? I thought you said compassion Does point number two on Afghanistan represent compassion? Let's see what Chad Yubitich says. I did have compassion. I'm lucky I didn't kill you. And just FYI. I'm not gonna sit here as a red blooded American have you condemned Sharia law?
Starting point is 01:48:53 Well first of all. It may come to America. No, no, no. We better be ready for it. No city is forever will be because guess what? Vinny, you need to be a little bit more inclusive. Guess what you have to do? And receptive to new ideas.
Starting point is 01:49:03 The Constitution would have to be overthrown. No, I don't know about that. So guess what? Why were you? Good luck. And you know what the crazy thing about all these places, Adam? About all the UK and everywhere? Guess what, buddy?
Starting point is 01:49:14 Second Amendment. Nobody talks all that shit and does any of that shit. Listen, little Mom Donnie with his fake ass smile could talk all the shit that he wants and how, you know, Sharia law and all these. No city is there, unless they literally overthrow this place, ain't gonna happen, brother. Why don't, Vinny. We got guns.
Starting point is 01:49:32 Wait, wait, wait, why don't we do this? Hold on. Why don't you just be a little more receptive, Vinny. Oh, they're in Dearborn and Minneapolis. Your city is not possible to happen here? Is that what you're saying? Vinny, why don't you just be a little bit more receptive to something new? Is there any city here under Sharia law in the United States?
Starting point is 01:49:52 Is there any city? What's wrong with it? Rob, I'm just curious. And, Rob, ask this. Is there any city here, number one, under Sharia law? And what would it have to take to actually have a city under Sharia law? But what's wrong with it? No, but but I'm curious Vinny. I'm really curious. Yeah, you don't think it's possible for it to happen
Starting point is 01:50:10 No, I'm saying it's they don't know I didn't say that what I'm saying is they would have to overthrow the Constitution the United States Play the clip I just sent you rock play the clip I just sent you it's becoming more and more and more evident What the more if it's any religious laws and and and and trust me the community that doesn't think it's possible They will be in 20 years having a very different tone. I want you to watch us here. Okay, go ahead Rob Congress So before it was by the sword, now it's getting themselves into Parliament and then making laws that act as the sword, the Islamophobia law in Canada, M103. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:53 As one brother. I find that there are only two things which are open to our movements. Ballot or bullet, nothing in between. I used to say that democracy is haram. Now I say participation in democracy is our jihad. That's our jihad. We're going to fight not through the votes but the ballots. Going to the ballot and voting is now an obligatory action, fard'ain. And it is a jihad that now needs to be done because this is our modern jihad. You can elect a person who wants the Sharia.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Because in the United States what we do know is that in the past election, just this last election, there have been over 800 Muslim candidates running for office. We may end up with about 50 members of Congress in the next six years. That's really the essence of dismantling the system of injustice is to replace it with the people who represent the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. What's that was very gross. I wanted to make sure you get the point. Those are politicians that are running for office in Muslim countries in the Middle East. And there are Sharia law courts in America. Where are those people located?
Starting point is 01:52:06 By the people of those communities rather than US courts and resources. But those politicians, I want to be very clear here, where were those people located? They were in the Middle East or were they in America? Those interviewers were in the Middle East. That's all America there. Oh, that was in America.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Okay. Adam, I'm sensing you're being sarcastic. What I'm saying is anything's possible, but good luck. Are you trying to tell me that certain hardcore extremists, maybe Muslim Sharia law advocates, are trying their best to do that in America and in Europe? Is that what you're trying to say? Well, in Europe, that being very successful because- You're saying they've done it already in Europe? In Europe, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:43 Oh my. Are you trying to tell me there's certain cities in Europe that have been overrun with extremists? What's the difference between UK and the United States? Do you have videos of this? What's the difference between the UK and the United States? We got a second amendment? I don't know. I'm not saying they're not going to try. Good luck. Bring that award to us. Here's actually what I'm okay with. I'm actually not even joking here. It's okay. They could do it here if we could do it there. So there's a lot of Christians and Jews running for office in Muslim-run countries, right? I don't know. You tell me. Let me just show you something. Oh, there's zero? Not exactly. There's zero?
Starting point is 01:53:19 Can you show this next one, Rob? Go ahead and play this next clip. This is from Muslim Brotherhood from 1990. This is the same Muslim Brotherhood from 1990. That is the uh okay it looks like the same clip. No it's not Rob. Maybe I sent you the same clip but it's a different one. I'll send it to you. Give me one second. So this is a lady from Muslim Brotherhood in 1990 casting the vision. That's 35 years ago. You let her speak? You got you got to give respect to long-term thinkers who Ilhan Omar no no it's the one I just sent you here no it's not Ilhan Omar I just send it to you. So this is this is gonna become a real issue very soon because momentum hasn't yet reached levels of exponential growth but they're gonna get their go-ahead route latest clip hunting pot we do not want to melt into american society and disappear
Starting point is 01:54:09 we want to go into american society with islamic ideals and revamp their thinking we want to revamp them we want to turn them into muslim individuals we shouldn't have feelings of of a distaste for them or or intolerance because they're potential Muslims. Education is one of the most important areas that Muslims have to address. And while our objective, our final objective, is not just to become part of the system that we experience now and that we see, our objective, our final objective, is to create our own Islamic systems and not only create Islamic systems for Muslims, but
Starting point is 01:54:45 to look at all the other people who are sharing this country with us as potential Muslims. And in that long-range process of making America Muslim, all of America Muslim, we do not want to... Interesting. So it's almost like they're telling us what they want to do. The vision is clear. Oh yeah. The vision is clear on what they're telling us what they want to do the vision is clear Yeah, the vision is clear on what they're coming. Do you believe them though? We'll think 35 was 1990 so 35 35 years later mom Donnie is gonna try to be the mayor of New York good luck to be no
Starting point is 01:55:17 He's gonna win try things in a nice 90% He has got he's got such a big lead is this what is this about? Halpern stating that mom donnie has about an 85 percent. Go ahead. Go ahead. That's correct President trump calls him mandami the commie. I just want to ask you shrewd political guy that you are Can mandami be beaten here in new york? Not today there was some opposition research dropped on him and if there's something that's uh, Kinned to a silver bullet against the communist uh... baby but boring that i think he's got an eighty five percent chance of
Starting point is 01:55:49 being his honor uh... come next year all these are going to come to bar none in a second all these uh... you know big shots financiers are creating packs you know to beat him but there are some that that are sort of sucking up to him also.
Starting point is 01:56:05 So it's a two-way street. So does that matter? I mean, you have the New York Post on a daily basis and other publications on a daily basis, heaven forbid, even commentators like myself ripping him apart, taking him down and particularly the law and order issue. So, but you're saying right now, he's the winner right now voter today. Well, our CalPrin says he's the winner. Oh, yeah Larry you can be really good at making money and really stupid about politics. I think the fundamental mistake they're making
Starting point is 01:56:36 I've met a donor too who doesn't know much about politics, but think they do maybe you have as well The problem is they don't have a candidate tip O'neill said said all politics is local and people say that's the first rule of politics. It's actually the second. The first rule of politics is you can't beat someone with no one. Mayor Adams, which is where most of our wealthy colleagues
Starting point is 01:56:54 and friends are putting their money, look at the polling, look at the data. These are folks who make money in business looking at metrics and data. You can pause it right there, Rob. You can pause it right there. They don't have a candidate to go up against them. Even Chris
Starting point is 01:57:08 who is the Republican candidate, I'd love to talk to every one of these guys. They don't have a real candidate right now. Curtis Silva. Yeah Sliwa. He's sort of been like an ongoing professional Republican candidate. Yeah, that's a different story today. And Anthony... Can't trust anybody that wears a beret all day and it's red. Andrew Cuomo said that he's not dropping out of the race, right? Yeah, he's going independent. So he's like purposely trying to get elected. He's purposely trying to usher in this, right?
Starting point is 01:57:35 I mean, if you think about it... Thank you, Adam. Great point. If you're being that guy... Well, the only way that they're going to win is if it's a head-to-head race. Well, that's what I'm saying is... So now you're going to basically just cannibalize each other's votes? Yeah, but what is he... What is Andrew'ss goal? Like what are you trying to do?
Starting point is 01:57:48 I don't know an interference is all you're gonna do is help the other guy you're going to a message from him Yes, this is the announcement yesterday that he is running as an independent New York City mayor race Under a rock you probably know that the Democratic primary did not go the way I had hoped. To the 440,000 New Yorkers who voted for me, a sincere thank you. Thank you for believing in me, in my agenda, and in my experience. And I am truly sorry that I let you down. But as my grandfather used to say, when you get knocked down, learn the lesson and pick
Starting point is 01:58:27 yourself back up and get in the game. And that is what I'm going to do. The fight to save our city isn't over. Only 13% of New Yorkers voted in the June primary. The general election is in November and I am in it to win it. My opponent, Mr. Mondani offers slick slogans but no real solutions. We need a city with lower rent, safer streets, where buying your first home is once again possible. You can pause it right now.
Starting point is 01:58:56 I'm just you know the the the Mondani effect is truly motivational energy. The young guys you know that are going after, to be run, there's nobody like that that they're excited about. You know what's a great documentary to watch? I just watched Roger Stone's documentary. Have you seen Roger? Oh, get me Roger Stone. First time I had him on I watched it,
Starting point is 01:59:17 but I watched it again. I think for anybody that has interest in politics, they should watch his documentary. It is such an insightful documentary. I watched it many, many years ago. If you watch it, it gives you insight in the political game as a sport, what it's like. And there's so many lessons in there about the rules, different rules, different talents, different individuals, nothing you see. Everything that he talks about, the people have on the man down,
Starting point is 01:59:46 he said not the opposite side. I mean I had Adams, you know, I'm talking to him, and I'm like okay, little bit more, can you give me some, it's like, can you give me some, it was just a lot of, you can tell the answers were the same answers he's given hundreds of times. There was nothing about him, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:59:58 I'm gonna run through the wall for this guy. And you want to see somebody else do it, but unfortunately it looks like New York is going in this direction. So neither Adams nor Andrew Cuomo are getting the the ground swell support from the people. No, listen let me tell you in personality matters, people like dogs, insurance right there's a difference in a person that builds like a corporate executive, I'll never forget one time we have a meeting
Starting point is 02:00:28 and my five new executives that I hired, all C-suite, they all came in and they found out how much my insurance guys were making. And I don't know if you remember this meeting or not, they're like, hey, are we really paying that guy 1.5 million here? Are we really paying that person 800,000? And they're all making between two to $300,000, two to $400,000. I said 1.5 million here. Are we really paying that person 800,000? And they're all making between two to $300,000,
Starting point is 02:00:45 two to $400,000. I said yes. Well, let me listen. The stuff that we do and pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa and I think this and I think, oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Oh, okay, all right. So you think you guys should deserve to get paid,
Starting point is 02:01:00 well, I mean, maybe not as much, but I mean, look at the stuff that we do and that I said, oh, no problem. I said, let me ask you, what time do you come into the office? 8 a.m. When do you typically leave? If I was to go up and look and see what time you leave? 6 o'clock?
Starting point is 02:01:12 I said, you work 8 to 6. Yeah. Alright. What time were you here Saturday? We don't work on Saturdays. What time were you at the office on Sunday? What time were you in the office last Saturday? When's the last time you were in on a Saturday? We don't come Saturday. We work Monday. Oh, okay. Let me
Starting point is 02:01:27 call a few guys and I started calling a bunch of my guys. I said, what appointments do you have tonight? What's your last appointment tonight? Ten o'clock at night. What was your first appointment today? Eight a.m. What's your schedule look like on Saturday? Eight o'clock I started the office training until twelve and a half appointments all night until eight o'clock. What are you doing on Sunday? I got two conference calls and I got two client appointments. I said, okay, how about next week? I said, Pat, is everything okay? I said, no, no, you're good.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Trust me. I'm trying to tell the executives here, your own speaker, what your sales schedule look like. Then I called the next guy and the next guy said, you guys want to make $1.2 million? Go run the schedule if you want. What's the point here? Cuomo, if he wants to win, he's running like a corporate executive. And Mamdani is running like a guy that's going and winning votes.
Starting point is 02:02:09 You ain't gonna beat him. None of these guys are gonna beat him if they don't run like that. To win an election at the mayoral level, you gotta work like a freaking psycho. Day to day, shaking cans, how you doing? Coffee shop. The magic at this level is to be seen at 50 different locations at the same time. You know when was the first time Tom, you and I were on the phone until 3.30 in the
Starting point is 02:02:29 morning when Trump won 2016 and that one time when you're like Pat, did you see what New York Times just said? Did you see what New York Times just said? Did you see this Pat? I think it's happening. We're on the call like what the fuck? Did this just really, you're looking at Trump's face, he can't believe he won. He's on stage like I thought I was 80% down today. What the fuck did this just really you're looking at Trump's face. He can't believe he won
Starting point is 02:02:48 He's on stage like I thought I was 80% down today Hello was supposed to hit the look on his face on stage is the best look on his face Because he himself didn't think he was gonna be the president boom. He's a president. She's conceding everyone's crying its game over But there was a moment when I said this guy's gonna this guy's got a chance of killing Hillary you know when it was because when I saw Trump this guy's got a chance of killing Hillary. You know what it was? It was when I saw Trump was doing six rallies in a day and Hillary was doing one every three days. And I watched the way Trump campaigned. I said, good luck beating that guy.
Starting point is 02:03:15 Go ahead, campaign like him. Kamala, you can't campaign like him. Hillary, you can't campaign like him. Biden, you can't campaign. The only way Biden beat Trump in 2020 is because Pfizer waited three days after Biden went to announce that the vaccine was ready, that the Warp Speed project that Trump had in place, whether you're pro or not, I've never taken a vaccine, the COVID vaccine, I never took it myself, my wife didn't, our kids didn't,
Starting point is 02:03:38 but that was a big thing that was going on, that the left got the victory, that they got it done. Now Trump, so many different things could have changed when he lost in 2020, and I know I'm not going to go through the whole conversation. If you want to win it, Cuomo, Adams, whoever, you got to campaign like your life depends on it. You're not campaigning like that. Videos are not going to win elections right now. You got to be seen like you're at 50 different places.
Starting point is 02:04:04 Mayor of New York City, let's see who's going to outwork the other guy. The guy's 33 years old, hungry as F, going lights out with a terrible idea, but a terrible idea driven 100 hours a week, nonstop 24-7 relentless, is going to destroy you. I had a call with a person, a very powerful person at the DOD last week while we were in the Hamptons. I stepped away and had this call. And we're talking about Reza Pahlavi, the individual that is trying to bring certain things to Iran. And he said this is not a job for somebody that has a three o'clock appointment to golf every day and a four o'clock appointment to play chess with the kids and a five o'clock
Starting point is 02:04:54 appointment. No, no. This is a job of somebody that has to be 24-7 full-time. This is not for everybody. Have you ever watched Trump's schedule and asked yourself, do you work like that? The average person if you watch Trump's schedule, do you work like that? Can you work like that? Do you drive like that?
Starting point is 02:05:12 24x7 cameras are on you and he shows up in a suit every single time? How often do you wear a suit? The average person listening to this, how often do you wear a suit? How long does it take you to wear a suit? How long does it take you to put on a tag? How long does it take you to put on the cufflinks? How long does it take you to wear a suit? How long does it take you to put on the tag? How long does it take you to put on the cufflinks? How long does it take you? Imagine a condom. How often do you like to be under limelight pressure this morning? I'm talking to my trainer He's training a baseball player who was supposed to be a phenom came into the major leagues the first 20 games
Starting point is 02:05:37 He hit 400 everybody thought this was gonna be the next big star. He trains here in our building Nice guy, very good guy You would know who the name is but the moment he went through a slump the internet attacked him non-stop on Twitter and That attack in the comment section on Twitter Messed with his head that he got out of baseball this guy was supposed to make a few hundred million dollars Got out of baseball now you want to go in the game Cromwell's got the right pedigree that he knows what it is to get attacked. But if you want to win, you've got to get to work.
Starting point is 02:06:07 I don't think anybody in New York is going to be working like Mamdani. I think Mamdani is working like his life depends on it. I think everybody else is working like they deserve to be in there. Yeah, because he doesn't have another job. He doesn't have anything else to do. No, but you have to realize, when you work like your life depends on it, that is a formidable opponent. Everybody else is working like their resume deserves them to be in there.
Starting point is 02:06:25 Life doesn't give you the job and the dream that you want based on your resume. Did you see that clip? Did you see it? Kevin O'Leary talking about Steve Jobs is hustling the work. Yeah, of course, singing low end noise and all that stuff. How crazy, he's like, the 18 hours a thing,
Starting point is 02:06:40 I sent it to him, we don't have to see it. No, no, I've seen it. It's a great clip, but the point is, they gotta work like that. You don't wanna work like that? Like, you know, you think Rogan got up there by luck? You think Trump got up there by luck? You think Michael got up there by luck?
Starting point is 02:06:54 You think DeSantis, who's a governor in Florida, coming up, you think he got there by luck? Of course, we know the controversy with he and I. You think he got there by luck? You think Megyn Kelly got there by luck? You think Tucker got there by I. You think he got there by luck? You think Meg and Kelly got there by luck? You think Tucker got there by luck? You think Rock got there by luck? You go to any one of these guys.
Starting point is 02:07:11 Dude, there's a phase of your life where you're working literally like a slave for a couple decades. And if you wanna do it again, you gotta do it again now. I just don't see anybody in New York that's gonna be willing to work that hard. I don't. I hope I'm wrong.
Starting point is 02:07:27 So most likely New York, that guy's going to get elected and guess what's most likely going to happen? You think? But people are like, well, Florida's going to be flatlining and all this other stuff. Here's the best way to judge Florida. If you believe New York is going to change policies anytime soon, don't invest into Florida. Bless you. If you think New York's policies are going to continue being shittier, guess what? Florida's still got plenty of room to improve and grow as
Starting point is 02:07:57 a economy and as a market. I want to go to the next story here, the one about the shooters that we haven't gotten into. You know which one I'm talking about. Secret Service officials were aware of classified threat 10 days before the Butler assassination attempt failed to tell agents guarding Trump. Rob, I think you got a clip on this one as well. The Government Accountability Office, GAO report revealed that the senior level Secret Service officials failed to share classified threat information with agents protecting President Trump on July 13, 2024, Butler Pennsylvania rally where an assassination attempt occurred.
Starting point is 02:08:28 Go ahead and play this video clip. Go for it, Rob. This type of negligence, in my opinion, is not accidental. It's intentional. I, as you know, I am actually the chairman of the Declassification of Federal Secrets and I've investigated one of the most famous assassinations in US history. That's a JFK assassination. And in my opinion, the way that this was handled,
Starting point is 02:08:47 not to mention, if you recall, I was actually able to directly interview the Secret Service director when she testified to Congress. And we had whistleblowers that came forward to Senator Hawley's office and stated that Secret Service never even met with local law enforcement. That angle in which the president was shot from was actually left, in my opinion, open.
Starting point is 02:09:04 And this reeks of an inside job. You know, I'm going to say it, I will tell you that they had plans for him to be dead but God had other plans and President Trump is blessed because of it. By the way, if she gets to the bottom of this and finds out what's going on, some of the people may want to be pushing her to also give another project to her to get to the bottom of it. It's a different project that people are curious about. Vinny your thoughts on this here because apparently they suspended six agents over handling a Butler shooting but they're still going through it so what are your
Starting point is 02:09:33 thoughts on the story? So suspended six agents and it's like another thing that bothers me is that the first thing was that Trump is giving the thumbs up to move on and he's happy basically of how the investigation went up to this point. I don't know, Rob, they had something on the president. It's kind of like, yeah, I'm good. We can move on. And then you mentioned this at the beginning of the podcast, out of the 92 rallies that
Starting point is 02:09:56 Donald Trump had done, 92 guys, the one time CNN was streaming live was that one okay, and please please save the Coincidence yeah, they were just there. He was gonna make an announcement No, no, no with with that being done by CNN and apparently there was there was Photographers there that had these cameras with lenses that really slowed down Which is not good for a live event to catch and, there was one shot where you actually see the bullet stopped in midair, piling that light up with the failure, the failure, and the only thing that happened was what? Kim Cheadle. Once the left realized, oh shit, sorry for my language. Joe Biden is not the guy. He's horrible. He's failing. The order was giving. My question is, Pat, to all of you guys,
Starting point is 02:10:42 who gives that type of order? Who gives the order to the head of the Secret Service that says, all right guys listen up, by the way this is all, I'm just saying if. They said in a meeting, guys you know what, Biden's freaking failing horribly, Donald Trump looks like he's gonna win, he's gonna do all this, he's gonna investigate, Donald Trump looks like he's gonna win, he's gonna do all this, he's gonna investigate, we got, let's take his ass out, okay? Then the phone calls made and they go, okay, Secret Service, Kim Cheadle, everybody step down, have them looking the other way. By the way, he was flying a freaking drone, nobody gave a shit, and when people were screaming,
Starting point is 02:11:19 guy on the roof, everybody turned and nobody gave a damn. He was on the roof in the building where Secret Service was inside. Massive failure, thank God, you know, only the ear was hit. Now there's reports that there was allegedly a second shooter, which that's what I believe. I believe Thomas Crooks was put up there like the idiot, call it MK Ultra, call it whatever the hell you want and there was another shooter that was on top of the freaking water tower. Because there's no way. It doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 02:11:46 This guy had six cell phones. The father, they interviewed the father. They're all being protected. They cleaned his house with a freaking like a white glove service. Nothing adds up and I'm just curious who gives the order that says Kim, Cheadle, all you guys put the worst agents on here. Nobody's gonna get in trouble. He's gonna be dead. President Biden is gonna be president. We're gonna move on.
Starting point is 02:12:10 We know for a fact that's not Biden. Thank you. 1000% is not Biden. It's not him. If Biden didn't do all those pardons and others use the autopen to do it, we know for a fact Biden wasn't responsive enough to be behind that issue. Exactly. That's a great, great point. It's definitely not Biden. So at what? Because this is what I feel, Vincent O'Shauna feels, and I'm pretty sure some of our viewers do too. The decision was made, we have to take him out. He's going to win, period. You saw Joe Biden, didn't know what the hell he was doing. We have to to do. I'm just so curious of who makes that call. Who makes that call, Tommy?
Starting point is 02:12:47 When you go back to the Kennedy assassination and you can step past all the speculation and you just look at how the Secret Service agents behave when the cars turn. There was one agent, one, who called two guys off the back and he was like, drop back. And the other two agents raised their arms like, why? What are you doing here? And so we can see that. We see a few other things that happened, the Kennedy assassination. And so you don't have to have the CIA pull the trigger.
Starting point is 02:13:19 You don't have to have the Secret Service pull the trigger. You can have the CIA and others control the Secret Service, which is what many people believed happened with JFK. So was there, you know, somewhere, yeah, nothing to see here. No, no, we get threats all the time, man. Don't worry about that. We get threats all the time. You know, we're gonna share shared data with local yokels
Starting point is 02:13:45 That's what they call them. You'll local yokels is what they call local police And they said, you know and we'll take care of it And so I want to see a Warren Commission not not chaired by Alan Dulles I want to see I want to see a Warren type Commission here to look at all of this to look at the failures to learn And even if everything else is covered up, I want the failures to be identified so that all presidents, regardless of party, are safe in the future.
Starting point is 02:14:19 And you know, there's so many things here that just, that kinda stink. They sanitized the roof and then they hosed it down. They hosed it down, taught the crime scene. They went to his house and took everything. You know what echoes in my head is when Ann Coulter talked about Diddy and she said, when the police arrive really, really quick and there's a whole lot of police and stuff, I'm paraphrasing.
Starting point is 02:14:41 I don't want anybody to think I'm misquoting her. But she said, you know, when the police are there, sometimes it's what they're taking, not what they're finding. They're there to remove some things and say, yeah, we gotta get, we have to do this. It's pulp fiction, Harvey Keitel, The Cleaner. Yeah, The Cleaner, yeah, wolf, give me the wolf. We gotta get The Cleaner, you know,
Starting point is 02:15:06 and I think that's what's going on here. There's so many things in Butler that stink, from the number of shots to the, you know, why don't we know anything about a kid? Oh, every kid needs three burner phones and to call international. Yeah, international calling. Adam, what are your thoughts on this?
Starting point is 02:15:24 I got one last story I wanna do. Yeah, one and to call international. Yeah international. What are your thoughts on this? I got one last story. I want to do. Yeah One year ago the Butler shooting could have changed the course of American history and thank God it did not I remember you guys were in the Hamptons at that time I think I was traveling and I remember it was oh my god, you see what's going on here Oh my god, and that video got replayed over and over and over again. That was the moment I officially remember this where I was like, man Oh my god, and that video got replayed over and over and over again. That was the moment I officially remember this where I was like man How can you not vote for this guy at this point?
Starting point is 02:15:51 All the the stories about this guy all he's un-american. He's so sell himself out. He's a Russian asset that was the moment this guy got shot in the ear and Gets up and starts yelling fight, fight, fight ear bleeding. I said, that guy's got ultimate respect for me at this point. Don't forget, it was about a week earlier that Joe Biden had the biggest debacle on the debate stage ever. It was a week after that, that Joe Biden basically reluctantly dropped out of the race. It was a week after that, they basically catapulted Kamala Harris to the top. Meanwhile, Trump was the most badass
Starting point is 02:16:27 thing I've ever seen from a politician ever. Even Mark Zuckerberg, who's been a sort of a vocal Trump hater, was like, dude, that was fricking badass. And thank God he made it through because now we're seeing the first six months of quite possibly the greatest administration in our lifetime. We'll see. We'll see what happens here I don't know. I'm not in on the conspiracy thing. I'm not in on the second shooter thing. That's not my lane I try to live in reality and the reality is this thank God Donald Trump is alive and doing what he's doing and God bless him. So you know you don't again cuz Adam There's nothing that you you believe the government in any case all the time, no matter what.
Starting point is 02:17:05 That's not what I said at all. There's nothing. No, I'm just saying, you said you don't believe in the conspiracy, but what I'm asking you is do you think that there'd be any way that the government, the sitting government would be like, you know what, we got to take this president out. Tom just made a point that the JFK assassination, everybody was involved. The CIA was involved. To answer your question, Vinny, yes.
Starting point is 02:17:24 I could see that. You could see what? I could see nefarious people doing nefarious things behind closed doors. Okay, so it's not a theory. It's just you never know. But it doesn't consume my life like it does for other people. Adam, when a story comes up, you act like people are sitting at home thinking about this shit. We're on a podcast, we talk about it, and average Americans live their life. But when something comes up, we address it. You automatically think I'm thinking about this shit all the time. He brought it up.
Starting point is 02:17:51 It's a story. No, it's not. When was the last time I even talked about the assassination? He just brought it up. You're too busy living in Epstein land. I get it. I'm talking about this story. I'm saying the real politic, the pragmatic view is thank God he didn't get shot in the face. Thank God there was that beautiful chart. Thank God. He made it But my thing is who was behind who was behind all the shit. I don't know one line either Do you one last story? I want to find out I think what I want is I also want to know who the hell was behind It I'm curious. Yep, because if this would have gone in a different way America would have had Biden or Kamala as
Starting point is 02:18:25 president today. Imagine America with Kamala or Biden as president today. Holy moly, it would have been a very different America. Last story before we wrap up. News just came out. Gavin Newsom was on a podcast with Sean Ryan. While he's doing a podcast, CNBC releases, which state is the number one economy in America for three years in a row, Rob, if you can post that picture, guess what?
Starting point is 02:18:50 Bingo. For the third year in a row, Florida's number one in economy according to CNBC 50 state analysis for 2025. Every day, I'm at the cigar lounge the other day at the boardroom, hanging out with some of the members. One guy comes up to me and says, look, I won't let you know this. I just moved here because of the top 10 reasons why you moved to Florida.
Starting point is 02:19:09 That was one of the reasons my wife, if I tell you 500 people in Florida have stopped and told me they moved here because of that video or people that are moving here, business owners, that's a small number. Regularly, people bring it up about the fact that they're moving here for how amazing the state is, okay? My concern is with what just happened in New York shit could get really crazy here in Florida
Starting point is 02:19:30 I had an Armenian family at the house this weekend Folks I've known for many many years you actually know them as well They were at the house and I said just just want to prepare you for this there's a city in Florida that's waiting for all Armenians and most of the job creator Armenians that have conservative values, not the crazy nutcase Armenians that are on the leftist, LGBTQ, anything goes, transgender due to surgery, the city owns your kids, the communists, all those guys, no, no, those guys stay in Glendale. Glendale deserves you to stay there.
Starting point is 02:20:04 But for all the other people that are job creators that are sensible family parents that are like, dude, this is crazy shit what's going on over here. I want to be able to allow my kids to go outside and play at this park on Adams or go play basketball at RD Weider or John Muir or go to Shulkanian and play baseball like a regular kid does. I'm worried about some of the stuff that's going on. There's a city in Florida that's been waiting for you guys. It's called Boca Raton. I'm not the mayor of Boca. I don't live in Boca. I used to live in Boca. Armenians will love
Starting point is 02:20:31 Boca. But watch what happened here. Look what they're talking about in the state of Florida. Tom, I'm going to come to you and I'm going to do one last dig at Lakers and then we'll wrap it up. Is that fair with you, Vinny? I love it. I love it. A tale of two Florida's, okay? Real estate industry torn over DeSantis' push to eliminate property taxes. What? This guy's gonna cut property taxes? Are we serious?
Starting point is 02:20:56 You didn't tell him about property. Rap, you didn't say- We talking about taxes? We talking about taxes, property taxes. We talking about taxes? Property taxes? Not a game. No, no. Not an income. We're talking property taxes. Not a game about taxes, property taxes. We're talking about taxes. Property taxes. Not a game.
Starting point is 02:21:05 No, no. We're talking property taxes. Not a game. Play this property tax, the Santa's video. What is going on around here? And I'm going to read this article. Go for it, Rob. There are citizens to hire taxes, such as hire property taxes, to pay for these spending
Starting point is 02:21:17 habits. And you know, these property taxes, it's like you buy a home, you buy land, maybe you buy the home outright, but maybe you pay off a mortgage over 30 years, and then okay, you've paid off the mortgage, you bought the land, you've been taxed many times. It's like, is it your property or not? Just for being on your property, you gotta write a check to the government every year,
Starting point is 02:21:41 so you're basically paying rent to the government to live on your own property and our homestead exemption is not strong enough to help these folks because the property gets assessed so high. And that's the thing, if you buy a home for $300,000 and you know there's certain tax, well then what? Ten years later they say it's worth $700,000 and so so and they say, you know, there's homestead stuff that helps protect you to a certain extent, but you're paying more. And a lot of people can't afford that. So I think that that's a big issue.
Starting point is 02:22:13 And I know we're going to be really looking at ways to bring people relief from that, because I think it's been really something that's pinching a lot of homeowners, particularly seniors on fixed income. But the reality is, is people have seen, and this is not the state, we don't control this, we've not allowed any of that stuff to happen, we've been cutting taxes, but people have seen their property tax liability go up
Starting point is 02:22:35 over these last years because the property is being assessed higher and higher. And the reality is, is you don't really know how much your home is worth until someone offers you money and is willing to pull the trigger on A sale that's how a market works you can say it's worth this much But if no one's cutting no one's willing to come and offer you that much then why should you pay taxes? On that amount and so there's a lot of either way to be done With that a little too much logic there, and I love it. Okay. It's a little too much logic there, and I love it
Starting point is 02:23:04 He's making a very good point. You paid off the house. Why are you still paying for it? Like is this a land lease or do I own this damn place? Right. So it's a very good point. However, the Florida Policy Institute reports that property tax generates $55 billion annually, accounting for 18% of the county's revenue, 17% of municipal revenue, and up to 60% of public education funds, with Budge Husky, President, CEO, Premier, Sotheby's International Realty stating, when you look at the amount of revenue that is collected in property tax within the state and the implications, if the math is wrong on any of this, especially in the absence of clarity as to alternative funding, to suggest that an investment of
Starting point is 02:23:43 million dollars, which is pittance compared to what we are looking at shifting in terms of revenue, it makes no financial or business sense. So Tom, great idea, noble idea, of course residents will love it. Do you think it's going to get done and do you think it's the right move to make? Well there's two steps to it. First of all, I believe Ron DeSantis is thinking right, and what he says is, when people retire, they're on fixed income. And if they bought a place for $300,000, they sold their place in New Jersey, and they bought
Starting point is 02:24:12 a place down here, he's like, the $300,000 number, that's the number you pay taxes on. So his first point is, the assessment keeps going up. So if the house is thought to be worth more, then you're expected to pay taxes on it. But he's saying, wait a minute, you don't know what it's worth until you actually have a transaction. Everything else is just speculation. And things go up and down. So the first thing he's saying, hey, let's get the $1,000 rebate check and homestead discounts. Number one, that's a good thing. Number two, let's freeze property values after you buy it.
Starting point is 02:24:49 So an older person on fixed income bought a place for $300,000, they know what the tax rate is on it, that's what they pay. The other side of it is people in Florida, the Democrats in Florida are hungry for the money. Absolutely bloodthirsty hungry for the money. And they want the housing market to pick up speed because every time a house is sold, the new higher value is the new tax value. So when home prices are going up and transactions are happening. It's really good for Democrat tax business.
Starting point is 02:25:26 That's how they make it. And it also becomes a challenge for the average person. So now, what happens if you freeze it all? If you freeze it all, then you end up in a position where you may have to consider increasing sales tax or a VAT, a value added tax on whatever you buy. Now the reason that people like me say VAT is fair because if that guy wants to buy a Lamborghini,
Starting point is 02:25:56 he's gonna pay a tax on a Lamborghini, a big tax on it. You're gonna buy a Prius, you pay the tax on it. So VAT tax is also called consumption tax. You're taxed on what you consume. Wanna buy more? You're gonna pay tax on each thing you buy. Don't wanna buy more? Wanna live more modest life?
Starting point is 02:26:14 Then guess what? The tax is far less. So I love the idea of the homestead exemption you're being expanded and rebate checks for the tax payinging property people, but what would interest me far more would be freezing you know, the counties, because remember the counties do the property tax vintage, you know that?
Starting point is 02:26:36 It's actually the county, not the state. The county you live in and you need to say, hey what are the property taxes in Broward County specifically, this is a code where I live. Oh, well, you're at 2.1. Well, maybe Palm Beach County Boca is 1.9. Now, I'm not getting those numbers exactly dead on right, but it'll vary a little bit.
Starting point is 02:26:56 And so the county determines it. And so I think that the governor's leadership on this is gonna help affordability for Florida, but you gotta pay for fire trucks and police and roads and streetlights at work somehow. And that's probably, if you fix the property tax problem, I think you probably need to head the direction of a consumption tax.
Starting point is 02:27:21 Because you gotta pay for all these things. Which hurts and helps who? the I mean if a consumption tax It it basically is fair for everybody because if you buy if you buy more clothes And you buy a bigger car you pay more more tax But it's the same percent you pay tax then if you're on fixed income, and you're living very humbly. You don't pay a lot of tax You pay for food electricity your cell phone you got your house pay tax. And if you're on fixed income and you're living very humbly, you don't pay a lot of tax. You pay for food, electricity, your cell phone, you got your house, you know.
Starting point is 02:27:54 So the money's going to come flowing from somewhere. Correct. Whether it's going to be from property tax or not, we got to get the money from somewhere. But property tax continuing to reassess and go up does not help retired people on fixed income and that's one of the points that the governor's making. Yeah well listen the fact that he's presenting an argument the way that he does in a logical way is the reason why I don't know a lot of people that don't love their governor in the state of Florida and if they do they're on the opposite end but the people that are working what clip is this Rob with Newsome is he talking about the Santas? This is Gavin Newsom talking about President Trump talking about him masquerading in fate. Oh and cusses he cusses and he says g damn and tries to apologize twice he he cusses just to
Starting point is 02:28:37 juxtapose the two governors. Because he thinks it makes him look tough he's being coached. Go ahead. All that reputational damage that's being done as they're sitting there on horses with American flags running through soccer fields, scaring kids that are playing soccer in the middle of the day at a summer camp. For what? Just toughness. It's a weakness masquerading as strength. That's what I don't like about this son of a bitch. Oh, that's the president.
Starting point is 02:28:58 I don't. And forgive me. I know he's the president of the United States. Forgive me. I didn't. Yeah, he calls me new scum. You know, come on. Because you are.
Starting point is 02:29:06 I mean, how do I explain that to my kid? Now he's got, I have my kids' friends calling my kids new scum. That I get, because I was called that in seventh grade, but not by a 79-year-old. Model better goddamn behavior, man. Look at this guy. Just demon. Forgive the goddamn. Like, just a walking, talking contradiction. Damn behavior, forgive the goddamn
Starting point is 02:29:30 Like just a walking talking contradiction. Oh, he's doing good with the conservative Nobody would call you new scum if you were a scumbag. No, but that's not the same But I just want to tell you also I understand what he's saying Okay, I get it that to to say things like new scum and stuff like that. It's it's It's probably not the right approach, but guess who it is. It's Trump That's who it is. That's your opponent. So you're not gonna change your opponent You you you either make your opponent just to you or your adjust your opponent that's the opponent you're facing when the Bulls are facing the Knicks in the playoffs and after game one they get slaughtered, I think it's 93 or 94, Michael comes out and says, hey, if we thought we were going to
Starting point is 02:30:11 come in here and take this thing that's going to be done, we're out of our minds. And it eventually goes to game seven, and game seven is when he calls his dad and he says, I asked my dad, what do you think I should do? He says, look, if you lead and they don't follow you, it is what it is. He says, I went in game seven and boom, took whole thing and Nick's were supposed to go to the finals You were in New York when this happened so You go against freaking Trump. What are you talking about second? He should have never said that this upset him You should have never said that this upset him because Trump's just gonna love it even more
Starting point is 02:30:37 Never he should have never shown Vulnerability there not with Trump. He should have never shown that. Because if you think he was gonna say new scum more, now he's gonna say it a hundred times more. No, you shape the kid's mindset before you go into politics and say,
Starting point is 02:30:56 here's what it's gonna look like. My son has the same name as I do. What do you think I have to prepare for this guy when he goes to different campuses and schools? Hey son, your name is Patrick Bed-David. You're screwed, okay? And you are lucky, you got both. Because it's gonna be both a good thing and a bad thing.
Starting point is 02:31:13 You're gonna go through it, you better be ready for it. When you go with a, we don't have a last name like Jones, or a traditional last name like Marty Rossian, or a common last name as some of these other people. We have a, we have a bed David. Okay. Uh, uh, it's two of them. Bed and David together. Anyways. All right, gang. Um, one thing I want to share with you guys for those of you guys that tagged me on Instagram with all the pictures that and all the ways you watch the podcast, can you do me a favor? Take a picture right now on exactly how you're watching the podcast. I'm actually curious. Go on X, post it, tag us, put the hashtag PBD Podcast, I want to know how you watch
Starting point is 02:31:51 the podcast. And if your future looks bright here, put it on. I just want to know how you watch the podcast. Do you watch it on TV? Do you watch it on phone? Do you watch it on a computer screen? Do you watch it on an iPad? Do you use a bad phone, an Android phone? I mean, would you use a on a phone? Do you watch it on a computer screen? Do you watch it on an iPad? Do you use a bad phone, an Android phone?
Starting point is 02:32:06 I mean, would you use a VPN in Iran? Underground? Are you guys like in the underground, like watching it in a bunker? Where do you watch the podcast? How do you watch it? Tag us, put it on X. I'm actually curious. I may retweet a couple of them.
Starting point is 02:32:21 We wonder how you guys watch the podcast. And if you enjoy the podcast, press subscribe as well. We wanna get this thing to 10 million subscribers. And again, appreciate all of you guys for joining us, Rob. I think tomorrow, what do we have? Oh, you know who's gonna come on the podcast today? Somebody very interesting. I can't tell his name, don't say it.
Starting point is 02:32:36 We got somebody very interesting on the podcast today. But who's going out tomorrow? Do we have a? No, that'll go out Friday, Thursday. We're back home team. Okay, Thursday, back home team. Are you doing anything, Lakers? You said you were gonna're back home team. Okay, Thursday we're back home team. Are you doing anything Lakers?
Starting point is 02:32:46 You said you were going to crap on them. Oh, I forgot about the Lakers. Are you going to do it? Nah. I mean, look, Luka Danczuk finds out that the Lakers are for sale before LeBron and the Lakers are thinking about trading LeBron to somebody else. I think LeBron is right now shopping different options, going back to Miami, going to the Mavs, going to the Cavs.
Starting point is 02:33:04 There's a couple other places that maybe he goes to Golden State Warriors. They're actually openly entertaining a trade for him to go somewhere. So you might be watching Lakers again. I have not. Can you tell me the day the Lakers signed LeBron James? What is the day?
Starting point is 02:33:19 That's when you literally stop. What is the day the Lakers signed LeBron James? What is that day? What was the? Okay, can you find the day? 2017 2018 what's the day the day the little really July 8th is the last time I rooted for the lake Anniversary, this was almost I have not rooted for the Lakers since a day before LeBron went to the Lakers I've not worn a Lakers Jersey Wow, and I have, it was because I was walking my dogs and I had nothing else close to me. But the day he leaves, you're gonna see me
Starting point is 02:33:52 wearing the Lakers gear again. And sporting gear again. That was the day I became a huge Lakers fan. I know, because you're a LeBron fan. I'm a Heat fan, everybody knows I'm a Heat fan. God bless everybody, take care, bye bye bye bye. Bye.

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