PBD Podcast - Meet Kevin | PBD Podcast |EP 72

Episode Date: July 1, 2021

Episode 72 of the PBD Podcast Patrick Bet-David sits with guests Kevin Paffrath, also known as Meet Kevin, Tom Zenner, and Gerard Michaels to talk about topics such as censorship, immigration, Meet Ke...vin's plan for California and more! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 By the way, just if you're wondering folks, we are live episode number 72 with Tom Zener, Gerard Heron, and Meet Kevin is on his way. He's about 15 minutes away. He's at five minutes away. Today's episode is sponsored by Vidal Sassoon. Obviously Gerard's hair tells us. You know, look at our buddy.
Starting point is 00:00:15 You know what? I was gonna say, I like that. I mean, yeah, I got the call. They called the right hander from the ball kicker, I got the call. I got the call. Mario, you're on the the ball. I got I got the call. I got the call. Mario. You're on the clock.
Starting point is 00:00:27 We've only seen him with a hat. Yeah, by the way, you know, I was wondering, you know, when they told me, you know, Kevin's having technicalities with flight coming in. Yeah. I thought maybe California was preventing the flight because I don't know if you guys heard or not, California officially banned states travel to Florida and four other states over LGBTQ community. It would only make sense, right? So I said, if this guy's running for governor,
Starting point is 00:00:49 they do not let him come to Florida. Maybe they're upset about him. But he's not gonna get this flight reimbursed. That's for damn sure. Not gonna happen, but the people of love and tolerance sure do love them some segregation. Okay. Special that state.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I'm from California. Especially that state. Especially that state. So Pat, if I may from California, especially that state, especially that state. So if I may real quick, shout out to Emily in New Jersey my sister her 33rd birthday today. Wow, 33 family. Happy birthday. Yes. Happy. Is that the one you got to give for? That's the one that you helped me out with the gift for. Yeah, really. Yeah. For that's good stuff. That's good stuff. Okay, well happy birthday, tour look. You were a reporter, Phoenix Suns,
Starting point is 00:01:28 you weren't Arizona, I mean obviously you did stuff with Michael Jordan, you did stuff with Barkley, this stuff with a lot of those guys, but your main team was Suns for a longer stuff. Totally. It feels great. It feels great. And by the way, how about my predictions lately?
Starting point is 00:01:39 I said the net had no chance. I was right. I said it was gonna be the Suns and Milwaukee and the Finals, and I think that's where it's gonna be, but it was exciting. I used to work for the Suns. I was the guy on the chance. I was right. I said it was gonna be the sons and Milwaukee and the finals. And I think that's where it's gonna be. But it was exciting. I used to work for the sons. I was the guy on the court, the hype guy, getting the crowd going during all the time outs.
Starting point is 00:01:51 You know, doing all the, it was like a game show host, meets MC, meets everything else. So I did that, you know, hundreds of games. Yeah. No, no playoffs.
Starting point is 00:01:59 So it felt really good. And I took Dash. I said, they're gonna clinch tonight, buddy, let's go. I woke him up that morning and said, later this afternoon, we're going to fly in and out, literally in and out. The arena's 10, 5 minutes from the airport.
Starting point is 00:02:09 We got in, got to the game, unbelievable atmosphere. The sun's fans are so incredible. I thought they were going to clinch on Monday. They didn't. It was so much fun. But then they ended up doing it last night in L.A. Yeah, Monday, Monday, Paul George just absolutely destroyed them with what he did in the Ford court.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Yeah, last night. Incredible. No, no, the Ford Corp. Yeah, last night incredible. No, no, no. Oh, Paul George. Yeah, I can't stand him. And I can't stand him. Really, you're not a Paul George. I never have. He's the biggest choke artist in the history of the NBA.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Paul Corp. Sporty would point. I don't care. 41 points in a game that doesn't matter ultimately. What is he doing? The third and fourth. What do you call for a spowl? What do you call for a spowl?
Starting point is 00:02:41 Well, now I call him a winner. Oh, so he wins. Yeah. Speaking of which, as a commentator you had to love. Did you see what Mike Breene did with co-op? Yeah, how hilarious was that? Well, I was sitting here like this during the game. Paul George hit the Paul George hits a monster shot to put his team up by two and like two seconds to go. And Mike Breene who I grew up with as a Nick fan,
Starting point is 00:03:05 is like, he's the perfect announcer. He's like, this place is going crazy. It's total mayhem. Somebody calm, co-I let her down. And co-I let her just sit there like this. In a sweet, like, like, yawning. Ha, ha, ha, ha. That's awesome, man.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I mean, that's his personality, though. And that's the price for him to be that way. So look, we got things we're doing with California, which we'll get into here in a minute. But prior to getting into California, let's cover some other things that's going on here with stories that we have Cosby. You guys saw Cosby as it is.
Starting point is 00:03:35 There's two stories that's going on everywhere. One is Cosby, one is Spears. You know, Britney Spears. So what do you think about what happened with Cosby? Here, I'll jump out on Cosby as like I wrote in VT post.com. I said, raise your hand if you saw this one coming I thought he was gonna die in prison. We all did right? I mean it was a parade. He was the
Starting point is 00:03:49 Juicy it coming God no nobody's help. That's why I said if you actually saw this coming raise your hand because nobody did He was the first of the celebrities to go down in the hashtag me to movement. He was new Merrill. Oh no, and they got I mean it was a it was a just a progression. I mean the guy is a grade A creep. I mean, you cannot dispute that. But you know what, if you like this country, you should be very happy that he was released yesterday because this all falls on that DA that charged him when they promised him he wanted. Okay, and when you see what's going on with Trump,
Starting point is 00:04:19 where they're spending millions and millions of dollars and just doing anything they can to fabricate something and find something, they promised him they wouldn't charge him. He then incriminated himself in a deposition in the civil suit and then they came back to use that information and charged him. So technically, he should be let go. This is a great country, a bruiser right there. I don't like Cosby, but I like the fact he's out because-
Starting point is 00:04:41 She should go on that conviction. On that conviction. On that conviction, yeah. The fact that they're considering this double jeopardy that he's not gonna get, he's not gonna go to trial for any of the other allegations and accusations is a little bit rough. And it really goes back to,
Starting point is 00:04:56 you know, one, it kind of is the official end of me too. Like you said, it's kind of the book end on me too. I think once the Democratic Party was okay with President Biden, bowling, bowling, his interns, that they didn't say anything about that. After years of Trump, grab him by the, you know, and then Biden is accused of actually literally doing that.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And then that gets swept on the wrong. That was the unofficial end of me too. They lost all any foot to stand on. This is the end of it. I think Me Too, in retrospect, was a very important thing. I really do. I think that Me Too had its place.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I think that especially with Harvey Weinstein, especially with LA, I think anybody who looks back at old school television, look at Richard Dawson on Family Feud, on live television just absolutely, like aggressively just stealing people's mouths on TV. Like, okay, we needed to pull back on, the people that were abusing power.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Absolutely needed it. But then it became just like everything else. It became politicized and it became like a tool for people to use. So that's a good thing with Cosby? I think overall, it's a good, I think anything that exposes what's wrong with our society in this moment of pain and change is good.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I keep saying it that this, we're entering an era of authenticity and you have to be honest and you have to be truthful. Everybody's gonna find out everything eventually. And you're talking about that DA, like that DA needs to be prosecuted. That DA needs to answer questions like, hey, as long as you help me get this other conviction,
Starting point is 00:06:32 I won't prosecute your 27 rape allegations. Look, I don't wanna put a famous black man in jail so scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. That's not justice. And you know what, unfortunately, that is justice in America and We sat down with I we can't really talk about unfortunately, but we sat down with somebody very very powerful for an interview last week and My big takeaway from that interview pat asked some incredibly poignant questions There's like no laws in this country. Everything is completely
Starting point is 00:07:02 Underinterpretation at all times. It's a scary thought. It all depends on what the prosecutor was under interpretation right now. The history of the country. It's what the prosecutor wants to go after. And that's it. The prosecution, the prosecutors and the courts are the most powerful things in this entire country. You see the videos too of they're not charging anybody for thefts under a thousand dollars in California. The 27 Walgreens in the San Francisco Bay Area had to be shut down because of all the crime. People walk in there, take what they want and leave.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And then if you get these sorrows appointed DAs, you're in real trouble if you live in a city like that. Yeah, yeah. Well, St. Louis, St. Louis, the people that were holding their firearms, you know what I'm saying? Those were the ones that the DA wanted to bring under prosecution. But they didn't. No, no, because of public pressure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And that's why things like this are so important. What's out of Kevin? How you doing? I saw somebody just donated $500 to your life. They did. They want an interview. I saw a nice suit you got there. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Thank you. Thank you. Wow, and Starbucks. Oh to meet you. Nice to meet you, Kevin. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Wow, and Starbucks. Oh my gosh. We're ready for you, buddy. We're ready for you. As an Irishman, my son. I can appreciate this.
Starting point is 00:08:12 So so Kevin. Hey, all right, bro. Why meat Kevin? Why is it meat Kevin? Tell us. Yeah, why meat Kevin? No kidding. Well, my last name has always been something people are like,
Starting point is 00:08:21 what's your last name? Path, path, like something. What? So I went with meat Kevin because it was much simpler than path wrath when I started selling real estate. Now though, that's a little bit of a problem because when you're running for governor and you got three kevans in the race differentiating yourself as meat Kevin doesn't work too well. I got to I like meat Kevin. I actually like you know, as a Democrat though running in California, did anybody try to sway you to change your name to vegetarian Kevin. Oh man. I've had a lot of people try vegan. Vegan Kevin. Vegan Kevin. Yeah. My mind immediately as a political operative, my
Starting point is 00:08:54 mind immediately went to meet swing. So you know that's still yeah. But different kind of meat. Yeah. Come play different because how much travel coming in. Tell us about it. I'll tell you this. You know, I'll tell you this. When you come into Florida and you look at that sunrise, it just makes you want to go live at the beach. And you guys have such a beautiful, beautiful state here.
Starting point is 00:09:16 So where are you in California? I'm in Ventura, California, which we've got beaches too. Water's a little bit colder and you've got an oppressive regime that makes life a little more miserable. Are you Ventura? Are you Oxnard? Ventura.
Starting point is 00:09:29 City of Ventura. You are in Ventura. That's great. Yeah, I mean, I've been in Ventura many, many times. Ventura is what? 10 miles after Camerillo or like 15 miles after Camerillo? Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:40 So it's an interesting California. By the way, Oxnard produces some of the best fighters in America. Is the way, Oxnard produces some of the best fighters in America. Is that right? Oxnard has some of the best fighters. Some of the, you know, sickest boxers fighters come out of Oxnard. But you see the May weather thing about how that may have been
Starting point is 00:09:53 all over the forest. Can I help you? No, I'm on the, I paid 50 bucks for that fight. You wouldn't have been able to get the, you get what's paid for, bro. The part about him picking them up is that what you're saying? Did you see how much he got paid for? But you know what, I got what I expected for the $50 bucks.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You know what, although I did want some mayhem, I want to just a shit show to be honest, man. Where's the blog? Yeah, look, the part I will tell you. Here's what I will tell you. I watched it first round, second round, I'm like, oh my gosh, this thing's absolutely boring. Logan actually looked pretty good,
Starting point is 00:10:21 but then by the fourth round, you're like, no, this is why this guy is Mayweather. This is for 21 years he dominated the game. Love him or hate him, the level of quickness he has. At what age was it 40 some years old going up against Logan? Well, this is, he did the same thing with McGregor. He carried McGregor for four rounds. I mean, say what you want.
Starting point is 00:10:43 He could have ended that fight anytime. Like, he's so bored in the boxing ring. Question. He's so bored. He's like, okay. Street fight. Street fight. Who wins?
Starting point is 00:10:52 How are you close? Okay, who? McGregor, destroy us. You take Street fight McGregor? No, I didn't close. No, no, no, no. Time out. I take McGregor two years ago before he sold his alcohol.
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Starting point is 00:11:26 I used to train MMA used to fight and there's dudes that I would fight with that are big-time fighters now And I won't say their names, but they basically said to me two years ago never bet Conor McGregor ever ever ever they have to drag him into the gym they have to drag like he does nature He does his training camp Monica now like are you saying that said it's not in a street fight today it's not gonna happen stop out this is America I can have my opinion do you see what James talk about this podcast I am going to make this a little bit more interesting you can have one time out what is Floyd may
Starting point is 00:12:03 where they're ever lost at what makes you think for one time in his life He's going to lose He's For you street fight Logan Paul Mayweather street fight Here's another one for you street fight Logan Paul Mayweather street fight Mayweather, okay, you're taking mayweather Okay, yeah, interesting though that Logan Paul was a college wrestler interesting interesting People under us made Logan Paul boxing is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life hardest thing I've ever done in my life was Boxing okay, that said boxers in an octagon are fish on land to finish this off
Starting point is 00:12:43 You're saying may May weather would beat. I am. Conor in a street fight. And Logan Paul in the street fight. Yes. I'm gonna clear everything. Everything. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:12:52 No one's perfect. We'll let you have it. Okay. So, Kevin, kind of walk us through for those who don't know your story, your background. How you went about, how you came about real estate, YouTube, growing it, talking finance, talking stimulus, and I run it, talking finance, talking stimulus, to not running for governor. Oh man, that whole thing is your story.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Give us your story. Yeah, I mean, basically I was moved from Florida, from out here, Davey Florida, to California at 17 to live with my now wife. We have two kids, two beautiful kids. I missed them already. And you know, I was in, going to high school, half days for my senior year in California,
Starting point is 00:13:27 decided this is boring. I got to do something, I was working at John Butjus, and my wife decided, hey, I'm gonna get my real estate license, so I thought, okay, I may as well get that as well. I wasn't planning on being a real estate agent, but when I got my license, I'm like, wait a minute. College isn't gonna make me money, I need to do something myself.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I certainly not with their teaching right now. Algebra, I'm not gonna learn anything with. The stuff I was learning in school, it was incredibly boring for me. And I think from... Are you a math guy? Are you a math guy? I love, I mean, I love numbers.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I love, you know, I love the numbers I care about, like stocks and options. Yeah, practical application. I don't wanna know the area of a slice of an apple. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I was learning in college. And so, yeah, throughout college, I began growing my real estate business that did really well. I'd sit down with people at places like Starbucks, the best free office you could get because it advertises your business while you're working. People see you working in the coffee shop. I'd had clients they'd call me go try to see in the coffee shop every week man
Starting point is 00:14:26 Can you sell my house too? It's great. And so that's how I'd meet clients. How old you at that time when you're doing this? Oh, I started 1819 18 years old house. That's the part about the studio. And I told everyone I was 23 You look like did you have a beard at the time? So you looked 18 I looked 18 You have a beard at the time? No. Okay. So you looked 18. I looked 18.
Starting point is 00:14:44 All right. Okay. Oh, okay. All right. I'm going to be doing okay. But hey, maybe the suit added a couple of years or whatever. I don't know. But yeah, I mean, it was just a grind.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And I did that while I was in college. And I always thought if you're in college, you're kind of at the same starting line as everybody else. I felt like I could do whatever I wanted to. And I could fail as many times as I wanted to. Because probably when I graduate college, I'm to and I could fail as many times as I wanted to because probably when I graduate college I'm at the same starting line as everybody else most people aren't running far ahead in college But business did really well took off almost dropped out of college because income was coming in
Starting point is 00:15:17 Taught people how to invest in real estate and that then translated to YouTube in 2017 Hmm very cool. So high school 16 16 years old, 15 years old, who's Kevin? Kevin is a police explorer, volunteering of 3,000 hours of my life to domestic violence, homeless call. Really? Police chase you, everything, traffic control, everything. We'll have to put up a picture. Are you a 4.2 GPA guy?
Starting point is 00:15:43 Are you one of those guys? Are you a 30.0 guy? No, I like that. The 4.0 was sixth grade and then my first two years of college. But beyond that, it was Counter-Strike, Halo, Splinter Cell, volunteering with the police department didn't get you into the parties. So it was police and then games. So why run for governor?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Why run for governor? Well, the big reason I'm running for governor. Can you pull up his website, please? Thank you for that. I am tired of seeing what's happening in California. Well, my friends are leaving. People are getting squeezed out. And it's because we have a very oppressive regime of... Stay at the top, Kai. Stay at the top. We'll go through it again.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Trying to tell you how to live your life and how to run your life. Taxes are too high. We're ranked 40th in schools. It's ridiculous. We should be ranked one in schools in California with the money that we collect. And we get misled by our leaders. We get told we have a surplus, meanwhile, we're going $12 billion in debt to forgive people's traffic tickets.
Starting point is 00:16:35 It's some of the things that are going on, some of the policies feel really criminal. The voters of California legalized cannabis in 2016, 90% of cannabis businesses are still struggling with provisional licenses to even be remotely legal. And so most people still sell it illegal. So, Kev, let me ask you, what is that due to? You said policies, right?
Starting point is 00:16:54 Due to policies. Are those liberal policies or are those capitalistic, you know, conservative policies? Well, my big thing is I believe that the first thing we need is a leader that focuses on solving the real issues that we have and there are four massive ones, housing, schooling, homelessness, traffic. To me those are bipartisan priorities. Can you say that one more time housing, homelessness? Housing homelessness, traffic schools, those are bipartisan priorities.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I don't care if you're Republican, I don't care if you're Democrat. Yeah. Nobody wants to see homeless people dying on the street. We have more people dying on the street to homelessness than we do to gun-violencing in California. We've got ridiculous traffic. We talked about schools already and housing's unaffordable. We know that's people can squeeze out on top of that we tax at some of the highest tax rates in the country. So it feels like taxation without representation. What kind of a Democrat are you? You're running as a Democrat, but not a lot of your policies seem like democratic policies. It doesn't sound like a new-some-polices.
Starting point is 00:17:51 It doesn't sound like a brown policy. It doesn't even sound like an Arnold policy. Some of your policies are even a little bit further right than the Arnold's would be. So how do you see yourself as a Democrat? I see them as Californian policies. I think what what are the problems that we have? Yeah. And then how can we reasonably solve them? In my opinion, we have incredible opportunities to stop wasting money on things like the high speed rail. They're spending 125 million dollars a mile on a high speed rail that's going
Starting point is 00:18:21 from from Bakersfield up to NorCal. Why they say it's for economic benefits. Kato Kato did a study on it. They said economically it's break even at best over 70 years and it'll take that long to be carbon neutral. It's a waste of money. Well, if you're going to go that far, go all the way. Say why it's been it's costing that much money. Who owns the land and who's selling it?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Well, let's also be real about this. Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Gavin Newsom. You know, this is public record. Hey, you know what else is public record? Is the husband of Diane Feinstein, donated, or donates to Gavin Newsom's recall campaign and he is a contractor on the high speed rail. Is that, so there you go.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Just Google that. So I mean, you know, if you're gonna use, you know, if you're gonna use bipartisan you know, if you're gonna use bipartisan ship as a talking point, which I applaud you for, you have to be willing accountability is the first part of bipartisan ship. Right? Right.
Starting point is 00:19:13 You need a transparency. You need a YouTuber and government so we can do daily vlogs and show what it's really like back there. How many shady contracts are going out when you're making YouTube videos going, these are the options we got. We got this contract from Tesla,
Starting point is 00:19:24 we got this one from Ford and we got this one for this. What's the best one? It becomes a lot easier to stop seeing money go to shady places when you're transparent about it. Absolutely. But the more and more regulation they have, the more money gets funneled into dark pools and dark ways of spending.
Starting point is 00:19:41 The more restrictions, the more California tries to enter your life, the shady or it actually goes. So let me go back to the question. Yeah. With great job on deflecting three times. There we go. Yes. I'm going to go. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I'm going to go. Welcome to the Thunder God. You have won it. You have won it. FYI, just so you know, just so you know, here's what you need to know. I am so glad you're running. Oh, thank you what you need to know. I am so glad you're running Oh, thank you. No, I am so glad you're running. I am so glad you're running in a state that I lived in for 24 years I'm glad a guy like yours run it. Well, why'd you leave? Let's let's go. I will I'll tell you
Starting point is 00:20:15 Well, let's go back to it. So let's go back to it. So as a Democrat Everybody who is a Democrat or Republican they have somebody that they say he was a good president. I like the way he did it. Who's your guy? Yeah, look, I think I'm a policy guy. I look at answer and I'm not trying to deflect. Yeah, look at policies. Look, I think they're great things that Obama did.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Some things were great. A lot of things were great. What did you like about what you did? Oh, all right. Look, there's some things that were good that Trump did too, right? And there's some things that Trump did that weren't great. I am so in the middle, I don't love identity politics.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I agree with you though, but I agree with you. I don't see, and here's where I'm going with it. I'm going with, I think it's time, but by the way, I'm not trying to corner you. I want to hear you say what you like, Obama. I want to hear you say what you like about Trump. But I think we're at a time where there are people on the left who don't Identify with today's left. Yeah, there are people on the right that do not identify with today's right
Starting point is 00:21:13 That's why we have mega would mega but there are Republicans that do not identify with Maga there's a lot of people that don't identify with mega I just thought you know Maybe when I was looking at saying, Kevin's gonna be running. You did one thing guy sent me videos and this guy's running. I said, I would love to see this guy run. Because what it would do is it would inspire you know how when Reagan ran, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:21:36 holy, remember the whole movie, Michael J. Fox, when they go all the way back and says, oh, you know, you know the actor? You know the B actor? He's gonna be a president. He's like, he's gonna be president. That guy's your president. No, he's not. The actor, yes, but he opened it up for other people if it's not Reagan Trump's probably not running because Trump's just kind of like
Starting point is 00:21:52 Well, I'm gonna go do it right. I think it's a time where we have a candidate that runs and Shakes it up on the independent side. I don't think you're a Democrat. I think you're independent Wow, but I don't see you as a Republican either. So I don't see you as a Democrat. I think you're independent. Wow. But I don't see you as a Republican either. So I don't see you as a Republican. Peck, can I ask him a little bit of follow-up? Yeah, I'll tell you that. Okay, great. You're a young smart strategic guy.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I mean, you're very successful. You get instant feedback, you know, being a YouTuber and everything. So you have a hand on the course of that. But listen, you have to be strategic if you're going to do what you do. You'd have no chance to win if you came out as a Republican. It was part of your strategy to become a Democrat or run as a Democrat, because it would at least get you in the door and maybe have a shot. My belief is I'm so in the middle that I've been a registered Democrat.
Starting point is 00:22:36 And to me, I feel like I'm a 51 49. That's where I feel like I am. So when you're asking me for, you know, specifically this president or this, that or whatever, it's so close, it's so close. But I'll tell you this. And this is not something that flip-flop. I've been registered since I was 18. As a Democrat in California, I understand that California has a supermajority of Democrats.
Starting point is 00:22:58 California, if a Republican gets in, California is wasting the next year. Because the next year, under Republican means Democrats just block it until the next election to get a Democrat in again. Which is the next year. It's very interesting. It's very, very interesting. So two follow-ups on that. It's very, very interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:14 We did an interview with Ron Paul and Pat asked him straight up. You can actually watch the interview on value-taming. To ask him straight up, you're a libertarian. You're not a Republican. Why did you run as a Republican? And remember what he said? He goes, I wanted to win. That was you're not a Republican. Why did you run as a Republican? And remember what he said? He goes, I wanted to win.
Starting point is 00:23:25 That was you can as a president. I would have never won my county as a, I would have never won my city. But I tell you one thing, Gerard, here's where I go with that. I think today, by the way, even when you're asking and questions, it's like, well, you're not like Obama's policies, Trump's policies, what is it?
Starting point is 00:23:41 Oh, it's just, I don't want to do identity politics. People are scared today to run and just kind of be locked in into a community, right? But here's where I go with you. This is where I go with you. I'm telling you, when I think about blue ocean strategy, take blue ocean strategy, you know the concept of blue ocean strategy, the book, you know, increase, decrease, eliminate, create, right? Increase, decrease, eliminate, create.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Well, they'll take them in and grab something to you, you have to have something to do. So, if there's ever been a time, go to the, if there's ever been a time, you know, the whole thing. If there's ever been a time where you should buy gold today's the time. If there's ever been a time where you should imagine
Starting point is 00:24:19 there's no greater time. That's right. But if there's ever been a time where you can actually run in the middle with the argument of, are you a rep, like this being my campaign, are you on the right, but you don't fully identify what everything people are saying on the right, are you on the left and you fully don't identify what everything that's been set on the left? For example, if you're a Democrat, you're a registered Democrat, and you're a Kennedy Democrat, maybe you're a Bill Clinton Democrat. Good
Starting point is 00:24:46 president, right? For yet about what he's not a communist. He was a good, not a communist, but he was a good president, right? Not a communist. Okay. Maybe you relate with a Bill Clinton Democrat, right? Maybe you relate with a, you know, a different kind of a Republican, not a Trump Republican, time for an third party. And let's go get the independent. Ron Paul got close. Our buddy, uh, uh, uh, uh, Texas, uh, what's his name, um, in and in that, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh the website. Okay, where's the money in the middle, come from, Pat? Oh, from people like us.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I swear to God, people like us have money. There's people like us. Independence have money. You have to understand, independence are very wealthy. People don't realize how much money is in the independent camp. Independence are sitting, saying, somebody had the balls to go run on independent. Let me come and beat your flag here.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I'll tell you the following about that. I'll tell you the following. I'll tell you the following about that. I'll tell you the following. I'll tell you flag here. I'll tell you the comment back. You up now, his position, like same reason why Trump didn't run on independent. Trump's not a Republican. No, Trump's never been a Republican. Trump's probably independent, maybe center left only. He's the government. He's not a Republican.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Absolutely. But he knew he had to do it to kind of win. So you kind of have to go to a party. The state he's in, can you imagine if he ran as a Republican, they destroyed this guy? No, you get no media coverage whatsoever. I mean, we'll go ahead. You were going to say so. So here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Why do we have a two party system in this country? It's because when you want a campaign manager, the good ones are either on the Democratic party or they're on the Republican party. There's no good campaign manager that's really trying to run a business at some other party. At least that I can find anywhere. Well, the same things because there's no money there. Well, maybe, maybe that's exactly all the money's funneling into the party funnels. And so that's where the jobs are. And so here's what happens.
Starting point is 00:26:34 You know how hard it is to run a campaign in California as a Democrat when if any Democrat from California, I hire is immediately branded as being anti-noosome and being part of the Republican recall. It's done. It's really hard. I can see that. That person's entire career. Now, you supported a recall. It's a disaster.
Starting point is 00:26:53 How aligned, how party identified it is. So that's why I'm running on fixed California. I'm running on my big five priorities. We've got rallies coming up this weekend and next weekend. And we've got a 20 point plan. The top five priorities are the ones we've been talking about. Well, let's do this folks. If you got questions send your questions on Twitter at Patrick Bay David, hashtag P.B.D. podcast, hashtag P.B.D. podcast. We'll address some of the questions. But let's go through your website. Okay. Have them into his website. This is website
Starting point is 00:27:19 meetkeven.com. So here's this plan. You got plans in Fresno Sacramento, San Bernardino, San Diego is going all over the place. Go, why yes on recall? Keep going up a little bit. California is beautiful. We've just lost our edge. Why yes on recall? False claim, governor claim. We have $75.7 billion in surplus. California is suggesting. In fact, he's going through numbers. Keep going lower because on the bottom, I think he's got what he stands for. Keep going lower. Keep going lower. Keep going lower. Keep going lower. keep going lower keep going lower keep going lower. Number one no home listness in our streets within 60 days. That's number one. Number two massively reducing crime through new community stop policing and interrogate integrate integration with future schools. Number three future schools and $2,000 per month for each attendee over 18 years old. Interesting. We'll come back to that one. Make in-house-ing affordable, okay, keep going. Ending bad traffic and better roads that also pay us.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Next, no state income taxes on the first $250,000 of income, fully legalized gamble. Yeah, I know. Fixing our immigration issues, no more blackouts, no COVID 2.0 lockdowns, lowering the cost of gas, leading our union's nonprofit agencies and business, hire pay for teachers, firefighters and police, massive fire prevention effort.
Starting point is 00:28:30 That's big right there. A lot of people, that's number 14, but that could be big for the people that are close to that. They're affected by that a lot. Ending our water shortage, big issue in California, substantially reducing gun violence, the underground handy person, economy, energy, and homes, new net negative communities, they want executive action and in California transition bond. So you got all these into 14 people talking about.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I want to vote for that. That's what I want. I don't want that. That is a California that works. That to me sounds like a Republican or an independent running. Okay, that's what to me sounds like, which is, by the way, again, I get it, I understand why, but I think you said you're a Republican or independent.
Starting point is 00:29:10 That means you like it so much you want it to identify with your side. No, I don't, I just understand, look, so at this point everybody knows who we said with last week, okay? Everybody knows who we said with last week, okay? On the MacAfee video that I did yesterday, we had a full day with Giuliani last week at his place,
Starting point is 00:29:31 full day, few hours of interview, and some of the stuff he said, let me just put it to this way. We put on YouTube, YouTube's not gonna be happy, we can't buy YouTube, right? And it's out of control to say the least. So now, here's the message that comes back, the message is, hey, you shouldn't be afraid of freedom of speech.
Starting point is 00:29:46 You should put it up there and all of a sudden, yeah, okay, YouTube has the right to also give you a strike and kind of mess up with your platform all of a sudden. You know how that works out because when you're around... You know I covered Trump rallies as well as Biden rallies. I covered both. Well, it was not too many Trump rallies. Biden rallies, but that's... Fair.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Yeah. But I would cover them. I've literally had Trump rallies that I would just I would just cover from a news POV. Hey, let's see what what what is being said. Completely deleted from my channel. Just completely removed. Really? Never had a Biden one removed and and YouTube will just send me a notification. Why do you think?
Starting point is 00:30:20 You know, they they use the insight violence arguments. So they've gone through and then while he said this here, so... And it's not like you're pro-Trumpka. You're not going up there saying this guy's the greatest of all time. You're just going to give him your comments. There's no such thing as this violence in this country. So, there's the excitement. I don't know what it is, but it's...
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah, you do see that. So, there is. And unfortunately, that as somebody who covers news very neutrally on my channel, that does kind of mold what you want to cover. Do I want to spend three hours covering something? And then they're like, guess what? You're getting paid nothing. So Kevin, you're smart guy.
Starting point is 00:30:54 What are your thoughts on censorship? And as a YouTuber, there's plenty other YouTubers out there. How do you address that? Oh, yeah. I mean, there's obviously always a balance to everything. But I think sometimes, or the needle right now is too far to the extreme. You think there's a balance on censorship? Well, I mean look there are some things like if somebody's live streaming a mass shooting yeah that should be censored right that that should
Starting point is 00:31:17 not be live stream. But that doesn't happen. I mean actually it has happened. But okay why? Why? Well okay, well you want to get into the fundamental? Yeah. So I mean, look, that's a simple one. If somebody can live stream a mass shooting and become internet famous for a few hours, create internet celebrity and then die and kill themselves or whatever,
Starting point is 00:31:38 what does that do that motivates others to be martyrs and do the same thing? With that, society has to censor that. So there is, as with everything, there's a spectrum. There's the middle, there's one extreme, and there's the other. Right now, I think we're a little bit too far to one extreme, but we can't be zero either. Okay. Well, I mean, it's interesting, right?
Starting point is 00:31:57 Because you talk about what is, I guess, to your point, all right? It's a good point to you. It's got a shock glass, is we have a party next? It's a good point to you. Ready, mate. You're have a party next. It's a good point that you make. You drink tequila or no? Let's go. You're talking about, maybe we'll have some tequila in a minute. Yeah, so it's a good point that you make, but you're talking about incentivizing behavior
Starting point is 00:32:15 and de-incentivizing behavior, disincentivizing behavior, right? And specific to this, to your point, and it's a good point, well made, they're literally disincentivizing telling the truth. Well, yeah. So they're using the excuse of, you can't cover a mass murder because it would incentivize mass murder. And that's fine, okay, fair.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Now this dependulum is currently, they're literally disincentivizing truth telling. You literally have to just regurgitate our lines, say the party line, or have your entire business shut down. Where are you seeing this, or in journalism, or on YouTube, or everywhere? This is not something that I'm making up. This is something Bill Maher has covered extensively.
Starting point is 00:33:00 This is something that even John Stewart, this is people that are on the quote unquote left, are actually finally starting to catch up. Russell Brand talks about this all the time. And this is a situation specific to us, where Patrick is literally, we had a meeting two days ago, where people in a project, the very, very expensive project, are begging him not to go forward with this information,
Starting point is 00:33:20 which has since been cooperated. After they've already talked about it? After it's already been talked about. We've not released a 20-butt. Okay. We're not recording a 20-butt. Yeah. So, again, so I understand the point.
Starting point is 00:33:29 So, if the point of not showing something is to disincentivize it, are they not showing, specifically, and I have to be honest with you, the tech companies in California who tend to be Democrat and liberal, are they intentionally to use your word disincentivizing the truth? I don't know if it's intentional.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I think there is, you know, I don't know. I think it deserves more looking into. I mean, I think that's one of the things, the beautiful things about if you get in to a position of power, you become governor, you see much more, and you can take the same reason that we use on my YouTube channel or in this discussion. And you can take the same reason that we use on my YouTube channel or in this discussion. And you can apply it with the actual information
Starting point is 00:34:09 that we have. Because look, we don't have all the information. Like you said yourself, we don't have all of the information as outsiders. I'd love to know more. When you have that information, let's say you get in this governor, okay, and you have a big lion backing you that maybe you can go toe to toe with some of these tech companies. Yeah. What would you do? Let's just say you have some information. You come from YouTube, you come from the tech world, you're sitting there and it's Zuckerberg,
Starting point is 00:34:31 it's Dorsey, it's whoever runs the Google conglomerate right now. You're at the room with them and you say, all right, the censorship thing. What are we going to do about it? And your solution is? Well, it's all it look and it all comes down to nuance. It's the same thing when folks want to know, how do I invest in real estate. There's no one answer. I've got to know the details. Can I can I push back a little bit? So let me take let me take with the audience of saying yes here. The audience is saying Kevin why are you being a politician? That's what the
Starting point is 00:34:57 I'm just selling their saying I'm not saying it to you. They're saying Kevin why don't you just tell us why you feel instead of deflect deflect the the, Charlie says, you wanna hear it? You wanna hear it? Let's hear it. The answer is, I don't spew bullshit when I don't know the answers. I get the facts. And when I get the facts, I make videos that are accurate
Starting point is 00:35:17 and I provide information to the accurate. If I get asked questions, I don't know the answer. Guess what, I'm gonna have the balls to say, I don't have the answer. So if somebody thinks that's being a politician, oh well, then don't vote for me. But the reality is you're gonna get the truth for me. And I'm gonna get the facts before I say balls.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Okay, so let's go to what you just said. Let's go to what you just said. Okay, you said you were covering the Trump campaign. That's a fact. This is a fact. So you were covering the Trump campaign. This is not a hypothetical. This is you, your experience as a YouTuber.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Yes. Those videos disappeared. Why did they? Well, again, YouTube makes the argument that Trump was inciting violence. I believe that's too far. I believe that goes too far. Okay, so how do you address that?
Starting point is 00:35:56 What? As governor, you can certainly address that. But again, we've got to get into all of the details. I want to see what's going on in the back rooms. I want to see who are the people making the decisions? Are algorithms making decisions do those need to be tweaked because we know Algorithms have a lot of human bias and that human bias gets amplified you see there's so much more nuance in everything in our lives and our society There's so much more nuance and when we look at the actual details like we break apart the high speed rail and we go My gosh, it's 200 million dollars a mile through hilly areas and $100 million a mile through flat areas.
Starting point is 00:36:25 All of a sudden we're going, why aren't we building tunnels for $10 million a mile? The point is, when we get the facts, we can give answers. If I don't have the facts, I can't give you an answer. So, why don't we move on from censorship and get on to another topic where I can give you some answers? Yeah, but the challenge is, the challenge is,
Starting point is 00:36:41 the challenge is, Kevin, you're running for a governor in a state that Facebook's in. You're running in a state where everyone that's doing that, that's a big part of your state you're running. So if you don't have an answer for that, voters are going to be like, I don't know a lot of this because to be able to go face these virtual, for example, let me ask you a simple question. That's here. If tomorrow Facebook or Google said, hey, we want to back up your campaign.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Would you support it? Well, look, here's the thing. I have donations right now, that average $50 per person. If one media or one tech company came in, like they do for Gavin Newsom, the co-CEO of Netflix don't need a $3 million. I sound like that. To Gavin Newsom.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Yeah, yeah, exactly. It hates. That's a lot of money. Hasting. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Really. That's a lot of money. And the problem is in California, you have to make sure that you're not going into office with a ton of strings attached. And that's how I want to run my campaign is I want to go in as a transparent YouTuber as a transparent business person, not with political baggage. People ask me, what's the difference between you and a politician who's been in for 20 years?
Starting point is 00:37:47 Well, I'll tell you the difference. They've got 20 years of political baggage and favors to pay back. I'll take donations from anybody who supports my plan. My 20 point plan, you support that 20 point plan, you're willing to help make that happen. Facebook comes to me and says, Kevin, your idea of future schools.
Starting point is 00:38:01 That's what we want. We will fund that $2,000 a month because we're going to show you how to educate people in future schools. That's what we want. We will fund that $2,000 a month because we're gonna show you how to educate people in future schools so that we can hire them at 18, dead free, and they can have a career rather than 33% of California's going on medical, I support that.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Facebook comes in and goes, look, you know, this $3 million is conditioned upon you supporting all our censorship, then f off, it ain't gonna happen. So again, there's nuance in absolutely everything. Somebody comes in, says, I support your plan. I want that kind of California. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Let's work together. I'll be honest, I like the answer, because politicians can say anything they want to that audience at that day and then change it the next day. I mean, I think there's some value. I gotta tell you this. Here's the thing, like good for him for giving the answer that he gave,
Starting point is 00:38:43 which means if Facebook or Google gave, he would accept a money. He didn't say I wouldn't take a penny from them. And then six months later, you find out he just took six million dollars, whatever the amount is from them. Yeah, so that's a good answer. That's a real answer. So the audience cannot make a decision. You're always going to get the real answers, but that doesn't mean I have all of the answers. It's fair. That's fair. That's you. He's already in 20 minutes been asked more hard questions than any Democrat in the last four years. So congratulations.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Bring him on, man. I'm playing. Bring him on, man. So you said you're a Democrat since when? Well, when I was 18, I registered as soon as I could. Okay, so got a credit card too. That's interesting. My buddy who in fairness is a political operative
Starting point is 00:39:22 in New Jersey, okay? And he is a Republican. He posted a Harry Reid in 2012 when this is in response to there's a shot putter who didn't want to stand for the American flag. I'm sorry for the national anthem and it became a thing. Nealing in that. Yeah, yeah. So there was a pick.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Which one do you want? Pick it. Oh, what do you want? I'm not a hard liquor guy anymore. We're going with this one. Long story short, he posted how far the Democrats have gone. I believe that I've been center for a long time. Now people think I'm right.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I'm wondering if I've gone right. You're taking it as well. The country's screwed it left. So first time we're doing this on live. Why are we doing this? Yeah, no, anyways, we're just going to have a keep going. This is good. So in 2000, you all getting rolled by meat Kevin in 2012, meat swing Kevin.
Starting point is 00:40:19 So in 2012, Harry Reid actually said when he found out that the uniforms, the United States of America uniforms for the Olympics were made in China, he said, don't send the teams and burn the uniforms. That was Harry Reid. About as far left to progress as you can get at the time. We've gone from Harry Reid saying burn the uniforms because they were made in China in 2012 to in 2021, CNN posting a glowing review of the 100 year anniversary of China.
Starting point is 00:40:47 So you've been a Democrat for 10 years now. What have you seen? Half 11 years. What have you seen in the party over that time? Have you seen a far left sprint from that party and do you still identify with them as you did? Well, you always have extremes, right? You've got like the AOCs on the very far.
Starting point is 00:41:02 You got Rand Paul on the very far, right? And what's happening is you've got like the AOCs on the very far. You've got Rand Paul on the very far, right? And what's happening is you've got Fox and you've got CNN catering their programs to the extremes because it creates the views. You entrench the political views into a specific audience that comes back every day to see what does Anderson Cooper say? What does Tucker Carlson say? The problem is we're not actually having real discussions and debates in the middle about solving the real freaking problems in our country. Let me ask you a straight up question. Short one.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Then you get back. Do you think Gavin Newsom's worried about you? Nose about you is concerned. Oh, they know about us. We already have gotten plenty of messages from folks saying, hey, I work inside the campaign at Newsom. And they know about you, and they're watching you more than anyone else.
Starting point is 00:41:43 That's it. It makes sense because guess what? They're branding this as a Republican, I just got disconnected. I think we're good. Okay. They're branding this as a Republican recall. Well, guess what happens when a Democrat comes in and starts gaining legs? Uh-oh. All of your marketing just got shot to crap. They get screwed. And you got a platform with a few million subscribers. And you got a platform where you're killing it every time you go alive. And you got a platform with a few million subscribers. And you got a platform where you're killing it every time you go live. And you got a platform with the last 12 months every time you did a stimulus update.
Starting point is 00:42:09 People are wanting to learn from you on how finance works, how Bitcoin works, how money works. We haven't even gotten into that because you're not going to get a real estate works. Yes, so let's do that. This is, yeah. Last time I drank hard liquor, I got stabbed. So let's see how hold the rest of today.
Starting point is 00:42:26 It's toast everything. Sorry, God. All right. Let's do it again. Now, now it's time to 9.50. Earlier, it's time I had to give us some army days. So there you go. Now if we get to find out, we'll go to the second shot.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Can you pull that up real quick? Kevin, what if News some scamp offered to buy 15 of your points, would you sell them to them? No, but because I don't think he can do it I don't think he can do it. I don't think he wants to do it because guess what they could look at my plan right now They wouldn't have to buy it. They could send the National Guard in tomorrow and do my first big plan Give it damn how can they look at what's going on with homelessness and continue to do what they do? I'm not.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I'm. That's the bottom 10% with Jordan Peterson. That's the scary thing. I'm right. It's a funnel of money, man. It's a funnel of money. They throw $5 billion at a problem with a five-year plan. $500,000 comes out the bottom to actually trying to solve things.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And the rest of the money just, oh, that's the rocks to Keela, right? That's rocks to Keela. I thought it was good. I thought it was good. I thought it was good. I thought it was good. So Kevin, let's do this.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Let's do this. Audience, keep going because we haven't out gone deep. I want to go deeper. I'm going to leave it to you. Guys, if you've got any questions, again, Twitter, hashtag, pbdpodcast, at PatrickBedDavid on Twitter, ask the question for Kevin. We'll address some questions here with you.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I don't want 5,000 people live here with us. We'll take the second shot. But right now, we're on the first shot. So, Kevin, housing, homelessness, traffic schools. Take a minute and explain each of them on how you plan to address that. Look, number one, homelessness. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Come on. You know how much money we're losing because of tourism, not come into California, because we've got medical conventions. For example, out of Chicago, medical conventions that used to come every single year to San Francisco, they're not coming to San Francisco anymore because all they got are tense needles
Starting point is 00:44:18 and homeless on streets, guests where they're going. They're going to Vegas. We've got our businesses going to Vegas, we've got our people going to Vegas. People are coming to California to get educated. People are being born in California, both liabilities. Both are liabilities. People being born and people being educated
Starting point is 00:44:33 in our state are liabilities to the state until they start producing for GDP. And guess what happens when they start producing? They go, why am I paying all these taxes and this is what I'm getting instead? So then they leave. And COVID has accelerated that trend, which means we are beginning to cripple California.
Starting point is 00:44:48 It is California is beginning to crumble before our eyes and it's going to get worse year after year. Now, California, in my opinion, is one of the most beautiful states. It's got some of the greatest sports teams. It is an absolutely incredible state. It has so much potential. It's just losing its edge.
Starting point is 00:45:02 It's not competitive anymore. So number one, homelessness. What do you do? You provide compassion. Every single homeless person that's on the street, three meals a day, a bathroom, hygiene products, cleanliness, and security. These are human, basic human needs. They do not have right now.
Starting point is 00:45:17 That's why the rape rate based on what a sheriff, the park, the sheriff of the parks department in Los Angeles County told me that the rape rate is over 80%. Let me ask you this. Is it raping other homeless people? I mean, I have no idea exactly the specific of that one. That's a very good question. It's worth getting that fact.
Starting point is 00:45:35 It's not the, it's not the wise, the how. It's not the wise, the how. And there's nobody that you're ever going to meet that's going to hear you say that and be like, no, they should die on the street. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no that and be like, no, they should die on the street. Kevin, no. So there's how. That's how it's the issue. It's coming. So that's the first thing, okay? You gotta provide basic human needs. How do you do that?
Starting point is 00:45:50 Day one, state of emergency, which also by the way, gets you FEMA funding, which makes the whole thing a lot cheaper. You deploy the National Guard. Not with guns and tanks as people think they hear National Guard and they're like, oh my gosh, you're sending people. No, no, no. Yes, Matt Sutes.
Starting point is 00:46:04 If they're calling it to those encampments. You're sending the national guard to where homeless are. Here's food, here's security. No more beatings, no more rapes. Here's hygiene products. How are you supposed to get a job if you are not safe and you can't get a shower
Starting point is 00:46:20 and you can't even have a bath here? Telephone, your under occupation is a tough life. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no for 160,000 homeless individuals to get housing. And guess what happens in those temporary emergency facilities that we built? We have a triage system. Here's the mental health department. Here's the substance abuse department. Here's the place because you just lost your job
Starting point is 00:46:54 and you just need a fricking roof. And you know what, enough with all the madness rules like the had under the Los Angeles programs they had the project room key. Oh, you got to be in your room at 7. Come and go as you please. If you're room at seven. Come and go as you please. If you're deemed capable, you come and go as you please. You can start here.
Starting point is 00:47:08 This is the social safety net that California creates. You lose your house. You can come to one of these emergency facilities. Nobody's living on the streets of California in 60 days. And guess what we're also doing? We integrate this population with our future schools so people can actually learn a career within two years and Go make money because here's the thing the poverty line is such that if you were making 30 bucks an hour
Starting point is 00:47:32 You wouldn't be in poverty you would not be on Medi-Cal you would not be on welfare So if you can teach people which is what the state should be doing how to earn a career become an electrician become a plumber the state should be doing how to earn a career, become an electrician, become a plumber, whatever, become a computer scientist. These starting salaries are all 50 to $120,000. Let's go, California. They're nice salaries. It sounds great. If you had, let's say, I like this program, if you had businesses, if you could figure
Starting point is 00:47:58 out a way, let's say tech, right? Like, you have downtown San Francisco, we were all just there. I agree with you. I would literally be almost, I'd rather be almost anywhere else in the country downtown San Francisco, we were all just there. I agree with you. I would literally be almost, I'd rather be almost anywhere else in the country in San Francisco right now. As gorgeous as that place is, it's not good. A couple weeks ago, it's a very interesting place for now.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Yeah. So what about having, instead of taxpayer money, especially federal taxpayer money for the rest of the country, through FEMA, to pay for these failed progressive policies? How about we institute something where Facebook, Google, these massive tech companies that are making trillions of dollars? How about you match investment? If they invest in your program, you'll give a tax write-off for them. I think it's a phenomenal idea. In fact, one of the points on my
Starting point is 00:48:39 website is being the leader for all in California. That means not just government agencies, which is usually just what Gavin Newsom does right now, Governor Newsom, what we need is a leader who's able to combine the expertise of businesses, of nonprofits, of activists, of unions, and of government agencies. I don't want anybody in California to think, oh, Kevin's coming in and he's gonna do away with one person or one part or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:03 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no person or one part or whatever. No, no, no. We need to work together as California. It's a tough question for you. Question for you. Oh, how convenient is this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Question for you in regards to homelessness. Yeah. So in LA, there was a guy who was working with his name was June. Yeah. You guys have a hair conditioning here? I'm.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Yeah. Look. I film in 65 degrees and I guarantee you it's over 75 in here right now. No, no Pat. Pat wanted you to get used to the hot seat man Pat wanted to get used to we put that 85 just kind of You're doing great. I got three air conditioners in my office people like heaven Why are you always with a jacket? It's so I don't sweat. Yeah, put me Well, it's not bad to be on this shot. We'll balance that out. Yeah, we're trying to get you to sweat that Nixon had on camera when he's debating Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah, bring it on. Let's go. But let's go to, let's go to the next one, which is homelessness. I'm in California. We just hit that one, yeah. Every, no, I'm gonna ask you a question all of that. So every guy named June, he had an issue with his daughter,
Starting point is 00:50:03 heart-breaking issue. I, it was, you know, felt for him on what happened. He said, every Christmas, we go to Skid Row, LA. I said, okay, I'll join you. So we join them. For eight years, every Christmas morning at five o'clock, we'd get up and we'd go to Skid Row. We'd take a couple hundred burgers,
Starting point is 00:50:20 we would take, you know, what do you call it? Blank kids, you know, toothpaste toothbrush. We take a bunch of things with buses and trucks. We'd go 40, 50 cars and we give stuff away. And I would stand in, I would talk to these homeless folks. And many times it was people who lost everything and they became homeless, right? But the question I have is, how do I get,
Starting point is 00:50:41 or how do you get people to leave that life? How do you get them out from staying in that situation? Because if you provide a setting like that with a policy, it's hey, listen, all these things happen, so you don't, we're always gonna give you three meals, we have a place, we have this. Maybe I'm better off just being homeless. I'd rather be homeless and you cover me with all that,
Starting point is 00:50:58 so that pays, that's better than $36,000 on all of your salary. Why am I gonna go get a job? It's another entitlement program that gets people to not get out. How do you get me to want to change my life? Which, by the way, is not a hypothetical. This is a problem in New Jersey right now. They can't get people to re-enter the workforce.
Starting point is 00:51:13 They're making more money. I want more news. I want to go ahead and get a big problem with that. A lot of people do. This is not a hypothetical. Hey, look, the solution is very simple. Right now, homeless folks on the streets do not trust the government. They don't trust the agency programs that exist because you go to a food bank as a homeless
Starting point is 00:51:30 person right now. You can't take the food to go. You can't take it back to your tent or whatever. And again, what happens as a result? People just don't end up going to the food banks. Millions of pounds of food get wasted. Well, that's on them. If they're hungry and they don't get fruit,
Starting point is 00:51:45 they're there. No, no, no, no, no, it's not just on them. It's the system. Because take a look at this, whole foods could feed our states homeless population daily with the food they throw away. But guess what? They can't give it away because of liability. What happens when the National Guard comes in to take over.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And we take that liability as a state, which is what the government should do. I'm trying to find out how we get them from not being home. Yes, your answer. So first, you gotta create trust. Right now, nobody trusts the government. It doesn't surprise me, you know? It's the famous saying, oh, I'm from the government,
Starting point is 00:52:16 I'm here to help. Nobody believes it. So this is why. You just quoted Reagan, right? Yeah, I know. You spend the first 30 days actually proving. As a joke, though, Reagan didn't say that. Reagan said that as a joke.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You provide service for the first 30 days to folks, and then we transition over to our emergency facilities. That food, that hygiene support, that's the appetizer. That's the teaser. That goes away when our emergency facilities are up. But how do they brush their teeth if they're living in an encampment on a sidewalk and
Starting point is 00:52:45 there's no running water there? That's what the National Guard is for. You build those facilities. I still don't know the answer. So how do we get homelessness to stop and decrease? How do you do that? Well, first of all, homelessness is different from homeless on our street. So homelessness gets stopped by actually teaching people in our schools, by actually preventing
Starting point is 00:53:03 people from having homelessness. That's long-term. Long-term. Well, yes, schooling, mental health, and substance abuse. These are three massive issues in the state of California. You try to get mental health support right now, 50% of therapists don't take insurance because it's a pain in the ass
Starting point is 00:53:19 to deal with insurance in California. So guess what happens? The folks who do take insurance are oftentimes booked out for months. How's a homeless person with a mental health issue supposed to get an appointment three months out, somehow make that appointment by getting a referral
Starting point is 00:53:34 from a doctor and going to this person. How are they going to get there? How are they going to be clean for that? Who's going to take them in an Uber? The Uber's rejecting these people. So let me answer your question. You provide, you have to deal with the existing issue and the long-term issues at the same time. This is why the 20-part plan works together.
Starting point is 00:53:48 You have to build future schools, mental health facilities, and substance abuse facilities at the same time as you get people off the streets within 60 days. You do that by providing compassion, support, and care, building emergency facilities for them to go to. But nobody lives on our streets after 60 days. It's that simple. And California law says that you can live on the street if you have no alternate. Well, guess what happens? When we have 160,000 spots available,
Starting point is 00:54:13 we have spots available. Nobody's living on street. You may have another 160,000 requests. Yeah. That's the problem. Then guess what? Because we'll be busing in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:22 You know what? Then guess what? We'll handle it. You know why? Then you know what? Then guess what? We'll handle it. You know why? Because we need the people to grow our economy. If I can take, listen, I'll tell you, if I can take another 160,000 people and I can turn them, I don't care who it is.
Starting point is 00:54:35 I don't care if they're from a different culture. I don't care if I can take another 160,000 people and I can teach them how to earn a living wage without being on welfare, without being on medical, and they can go work for Apple and Facebook and Google or local companies like Patagonia or Amjad. I don't care if I can teach them the skills they need. I grow our GDP and they stay rather than leave. Yeah, but isn't the idea like, you know, the Ellis Island, you would go to the island,
Starting point is 00:55:02 you're an immigrant, hey, what do you bring to the table? I'm a sewer. I'm a person who knows how to, you know, cook. I, you would go to the island, you were an immigrant, hey, what do you bring to the table? I'm a sewer. I'm a person who knows how to, you know, cook. I'm a guy that's good with shoes. I'm a guy that's whatever, right? You're brown construction, I'm this. To say, I'll take anybody.
Starting point is 00:55:14 That's, that's, that's like a corporation saying, I'm Google, I'll take anybody, send me any talent, you know. We're not a corporation. The government is not a corporation. The government's role is to make sure that people are capable. The government has failed that role for the last 40 years. The government has led people No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Why don't we get licensed architects and licensed professionals coming from Brazil to America? Why not? It's hard. It's hard to get out of attorneys, get listened to this. Real quick, and then you're thinking, I've got somebody I want to hire from New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:55:54 I want to hire them. I want to provide them a job. They have good skills. I want. They called three attorneys. All three attorneys go to complicated. Won't even take the case. We're willing to throw tens of thousands of dollars at it
Starting point is 00:56:05 Won't even take the case because the legal immigration system is broken. Why do we have a border wall issue? It's because the legal immigration system is garbage. So go back to it. So go back to the same thing So for example, you get a how many tens of thousands of kids come here? They go to our educational system. They go through our great universities our great schools and then they get the four-year degree And what did they do go back to Brazil? They and what did they do? Go back to Brazil. They go back to their country, and rather than keeping them. But the idea is to bring the best talent to California,
Starting point is 00:56:32 or your state, or your country. For you to say, I'll take any 160,000, well guess what? The mayor of Chicago would love to send you 10,000 people on a Greyhound bus to you for you to handle the cost of what it takes to take care of them. It's $60 a pound. You're just invited a bunch of people.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Why do you think FEMA comes into help when we issue a state of emergency too? This is not just a Californian problem, homelessness. It's an American problem. No question about that. It's an American problem. But California is eating it. It's fine. The policies on this website, needkeven.com.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Those policies are not just California policies. They're American priorities. These should be simple, clear, reasonable priorities in our country. We got to start somewhere. You know, don't they have a little bit of a responsibility, as Joe Rogan said, to figure their life out a little? I mean, is all 160,000, you know, we'll come take care of you because I'm a California resident, I living now like homelessness to me is probably 1 a, you know, as far as the
Starting point is 00:57:30 the factors in the country because it affects me in the state. And if they start rolling into where I leave, I think that's my extra package. But when as a voter, yeah, when will you get them off the street? 60 days. All of us. Listen, all of them. It's a state of emergency day day one, national guards there. You get a five week transition period when you become governor.
Starting point is 00:57:49 I've only got one year to prove myself and then people have to revoke me in or vote me out. So if I can't fulfill my promise within 60 days, that'd be pretty bad for my reelection purposes. So it's going to happen within 60 days. All of them. All of our states. I see people that put tents up in front of, you know, restaurants and on sidewalks and bus stops.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Just they get these guys don't want to get a job. But you know, the way they can be an inconvenience to anybody they can. But let's also understand homelessness for a moment. When the people who become homeless, about 15% have mental health issues. About 15% have drug problems or substance abuse problems. The vast majority of people who become homeless
Starting point is 00:58:24 become homeless for economic reasons, housings too expensive. They get evicted. They lose their job. COVID happens and they lose their job. Whatever. And guess what? Statistically, as much as you're talking about people coming in with buses or whatever, the statistics show that most homeless come from within California. 92% of the homeless in San Francisco come from within California. Because you haven't incentivized them to come from extra. Just, just, just, just, just, just to push back on it. Because I, it sounds, it's all truistic in nature and it sounds great, right?
Starting point is 00:58:57 But it sounds like your, your policy position here, anybody that's dealt with anybody that, that knows anything about mental health or drug addiction, 60 days is not enough. First of all, I didn't say that. Let me finish. If the, it sounds to me to my ear, all right, and again, it's an altruistic position that you're presenting it as, but it sounds to me like your policy is to have the national guard come in and detain the homeless. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Okay. What I said, what I said, what is number one, the National Guard gets deployed to provide compassion and support. We're not detaining people. Compassionate handcuffs.
Starting point is 00:59:51 No, no, no, no, no, no. Remember how I said people are not rolling out with guns. This is the National Guard providing a service. Now you also, you mentioned at the expected of the American taxpayer as well. Well, what do you think governments for? Government is for providing services for people. They're failing at it. Now, they're wasted.
Starting point is 01:00:07 We got enough money. We got enough money, but the money's being squandered right now because we've got a failed leader running the state of California with horrible policies. The money's there. So don't worry about the money, but I want to make this clear. You mentioned Kevin, you're not going to solve a mental health in 60s.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Da, I know that. That's why I said we got to build those mental health facilities. It's going to take years to solve our schooling and mental health problem. I know that. That's why I said we gotta build those mental health facilities. It's going to take years to solve our schooling and mental health problem. I understand that. I said we have no more homeless on our streets within 60 days by showing trust and compassion and showing better opportunities.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Because guess what happens? When we get to our emergency facilities, we actually have clean facilities where people are. Let's wait to the next one. So there's a bit of a, I think you got a, you got a tightening the argument there got it. I think you got a Titan the argument there with that. I think homelessness has some leaks and I think the way I'm still What time would you tighten it? Let's let's hear it. Yeah. No my concern is for you to figure out a way to get them out
Starting point is 01:00:56 My concern is how to get them out like think about how nobody's even trying I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know what I'm not a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man.
Starting point is 01:01:19 I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man.'s going. The only concern I have is when you incentivize somebody to say, here's what I'm going to give you. What out of deadline to get you off. So for example, if you go that route and you give me a deadline, I'm going to give you this for 60 days. Okay, I'll give you an idea. So one of my guys smokes a lot
Starting point is 01:01:39 of weed. A ton of weed. One of my best friends. We worked at Burger King together. The guy's always high loves weed. He's one of the. One of my best friends. We worked at Burger King together. The guy's always high. Loves wheat. He's one of the funniest guys I love this guy. He let me live at his house for 18 days when I got out of the... I had no place to live. I love this guy. I mean, this is one of my favorite people in the world.
Starting point is 01:01:53 But he smokes a shitload of wheat. He's always high, right? Tom's enter. That's meh- That's meh- Me and Stav. No, but one time I'm sitting down with him and we start talking about entitlement programs.
Starting point is 01:02:05 So welfare, right? They were giving you welfare. I said, look, I don't mind giving welfare. Let's give food stamps. It's fine. But here's what I want to do. Every month, I want to drug test you. He says, that's unfair.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I surprise that unfair. The government is supporting you. Let's drug test you every month. I don't think that's fair. You're invading people's privacy. I said, wait a minute. Wait a minute. When I was in the army, and the army is paying my bills,
Starting point is 01:02:27 which is paid by taxpayers, the army can say whatever the hell they want to do with me because taxpayers are paying for me. So every month on Mondays, here's what would happen. Formation. If your social starts, last for your social stuff, no joke. If your last for your social starts with number three, step up. If we would step up. Come on, drug this. They would go. Yeah. Your hand, because the formula
Starting point is 01:02:49 is all you need to do is you need to put a little bit of what he called it, uh, chlorox. And so everybody would have a little bit of a, uh, small little vial. So if you put chlorox on your hands and you pee on your fingers, then you're going to come on. This is the value people are looking for in valueid Tainted this is Value Where are you when I was in the money Game changer today right all because of me Kevin so watch this so watch what David's like you guys didn't know that I'm on a delay
Starting point is 01:03:23 So I'm on a delay say that again Don't worry about that's so part of the delay, but but so so so so so we go there By the way, this is how you have to pee you have to pee no joke you have to pee They will tell you give me hold the cup and the guy stands right here and you would bring it You can't touch anything and you have to pee in it then you give it to him So they wouldn't even let us do anything right and then I then I would say, oh, boom, you're smoking wheat, article 87, boom, you come out here, gonna go to the... Must do down. So what I'm saying is a following.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Let's give you the benefit program. With one caveat, what's the caveat? I'll give you 90 days, but every other week, I'm drug testing you. If you come out positive, whatever the timeline you put in there, right? If you come out negative, I'll give it to you for another 90 days or 60 days.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Because you're right, we gotta stop the drug system and the people, there's a real issue. So yes, I will feed you three meals a day. Yes, I'll give you a place to live if you are willing to go without drugs for two months. Okay, that's number one. The other one is you have 90 days to go get a job.
Starting point is 01:04:20 So meaning is the final, this is my response back to yours because I kinda like what you're doing and I truly wanna support you. Like if we have here, this is a form of a support. You have to understand we don't have everybody else here. So the other part will be the following. Let's just say what is three meals a day and a place to stay at and all the other costs. What is that worth per month? Give me a number. What is that worth per month per individual?
Starting point is 01:04:43 Per individual. Yeah. What is it? Is it two grand a month? Three grand a month? I shouldn't want to. Well, here. Look, give me a number. Just Give me a number. What is that word per month? Per individual. Per individual. The only is it two grand a month, three grand a month. I should be more than that. Well, here. Look, give me a number. Just give me a number. I'll give you number. Here's the thing. San Francisco right now is spending five grand a month on tents. It's ridiculous because it's not systematized. There's no way to put it per person. Five thousand. It's not. It's stupid. It's stupid. And here's why. There's no scale. There's no scale Yeah, guess what happens when you come in as the governor and you work with businesses and nonprofits nonprofits donating food your costs go 150 bucks No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay? The tents are already there. Listen, it's gotta be under $500 a month
Starting point is 01:05:25 and we will do whatever we can to get that scale down. I wanna run it like a business. Three meals a day. Business. If you do three meals a day. A meal stuff from whole foods that they're throwing away and they donate. If you get them to do it.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Oh, we are working together in the state. Remember what I said, one of them. Let's just say it's two grand a month. It's not gonna be two grand a month. Let's just say it's two grand a month. I don't even wanna run it. No, no, no. If you wanna run one of the number, go with a thousand. There, let's eat. Okay, let's say thousand it's two grand a month. It's not going to be two grand a month. But let's just say it's 151. I don't even want to run it. No, no, no. If you want to run one, go with the 1000.
Starting point is 01:05:47 There, that's easy. Okay, let's say 1000 a month. Pick any number. Stay with me here. Say it's a thousand a month. That's 160 grand a month for the homeless. Yeah, so I'm going to, it's not 160 grand a month. It's 160 times a thousand.
Starting point is 01:05:57 That's not 160 grand a month. Just take it up a lot more. You get that three zeros to it. So I'm wondering, no, no, no, you're right. Yeah, so you're awful. He doesn't operate in anything. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no it's going to 15. It keeps fluctuating. Give me the number today. It's a 1040. Yeah, somewhere around there. It's going to sit. Because it goes up. It's full of California minimum wage.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Just full of California. Because you're going to see what direction I'm going with this year. This is how I'm willing to agree to take care of you. What's minimum wage in California? California minimum wage. Hang on. Let me just make my point. Let me make my point. I know. I have a sponsor.
Starting point is 01:06:39 You will get it. Let me just give it to you. I know you're going. So 15 bucks an hour. So watch this. $1,000, 66, right? I'll give you three square meals. I'll give you a place to stay at, but you have to do community service 70 hours a month, 20 hours a week. I'll give it to you. But hey, Mr. Homeless, we got to get you back working and working is very healthy for you. You want to have a place to
Starting point is 01:07:01 stay at? You got to work 70 hours a month. If you don't do it, I'm not taking care of you. So I'm mentally getting you to realize, holy shit, I'm doing stupid, work cleaning the sides of the street. I don't want to do this anymore. I'm going to go get a real job. Now we're talking because I'm drug testing you on a monthly basis. I'm going to get you off to drugs.
Starting point is 01:07:18 I'm going to get you back to the habit of working 90 days later. Now go back to regular life. Go get a job for yourself. Yeah, look, what you've just described is a beautiful utopian example. The reality is, the issues that have occurred on our streets have made this in much larger and more complicated issue. The folks who are believing on our street for years. I think your pitching utopian.
Starting point is 01:07:38 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no utopia. No, no, no, no, no. We have free money to throw at people. That's what you're saying. Wrong, wrong, okay. The person who's throwing away free money is forgiving criminal traffic tickets and putting us another $12 billion into debt.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Okay, so we can play numbers all day long. But the reality is, you've got to get homeless off our streets and you have to rehabilitate. You can't take a person. Your plan is not gonna do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It does, because I mentioned
Starting point is 01:08:04 in my emergency facilities, we have a mental health facility, substance abuse facility, and educational support via our future schools. We need people, look, the end goal is people who have careers, who are not on medical, who are not on welfare. That's the end goal. So how do you get to the end goal? People cleaning their streets. No, guess who's cleaning our streets under my plan?
Starting point is 01:08:23 The people who are nonviolent prisoners who are going to go, they're going to be cleaning the streets. No, guess who's cleaning our streets under my plan? The people who are nonviolent prisoners who are going to go, they're going to be cleaning our streets. So we can talk more about that, but that's another piece of our plan. So go back and break down what I just proposed to you and tell me how that's utopia. I want you to cross that argument. Because your vision right now is that people
Starting point is 01:08:40 can go from where they're living now and their tent to cleaning the streets for 70 hours a month and then going into a real job. Not for bit somebody works 15 hours a week. Can't a straw fit. Can't a straw fit. I am not disagreeing with your argument. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:55 But I'm also being a realist. I understand. People work 40 a week. I'm saying 15 a week. I got to do this, Pat. I actually got to push back on you in this, because I don't think it's utopian. I think it's totalitarian. I don't like that. And I actually got to push back on you in this because I don't think it's I don't think it's utopia And I think it's I think it's totalitarian. I I don't like that
Starting point is 01:09:07 And I understand your perspective and why you know, you don't take the money. I hear you Then you're on the street. This is the thing now Kevin I genuinely feel your passion and that's something I hope is coming through and I've sat with a lot of politicians And they're not as passionate as you I genuinely feel that and that's something to be commended so much So I hope you lose. So you end up in the private sector where you can actually do something. But the real thing here, Pat,
Starting point is 01:09:31 is that these people that end up in control of these programs, these bureaucrats are evil. They are either greedy or they're crazy. And if you incentivize them to trade basic needs for labor, you're gonna run into a really, really bad situation. That is essentially communism. That is essentially slavery. Why do I hate communism?
Starting point is 01:09:51 Cause communism trades personal autonomy for basic needs. Let me ask you a question. So if that's communism, what do you define? I'm gonna give you a place to live and give you food and give you all that for free. In return for nothing. That's what you call that. Well, what I call that is, I call that a social program.
Starting point is 01:10:04 In return for you not changing any area of your life that's hurting the entire thing. That's how I was saying that. It's a social ramp up. I agree that there should be a ramp up. I got nothing in the old neck. There should be some ramp up. Where is the skin in a game? I totally understand what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:10:16 I don't have the answer for it. I'm not running for governor of California. I need to, I'll think about it more. I'll get it. But the thing that hold real quick, that is essentially, like that is my entire issue with communism. My entire issue with communism is glorified slavery. You are trading, your personal autonomy,
Starting point is 01:10:31 you're trading your personal autonomy for your basic needs met. Do you have how, they can be slated. So military's communism? No, you chose to do it. You chose to go into military. You can chose to. If there was a draft,
Starting point is 01:10:41 there would be, if there was a draft, as the personal autonomy is a choice. Wait a minute, I'm giving you a choice, you don't have to take the food. You don't have to take a place to live. Okay, here, I would have come to him. If that's the choice, I'm taking it. With all due respect, if the National Guard's
Starting point is 01:10:52 coming by sweeping the streets, what am I gonna do? I never said National Guard. Well, I'm saying, respond to him. That's his. What I'm saying to you is, if you want this, yeah, no problem. It's kind of like if you want a job. If you want a job, I'll give you a job.
Starting point is 01:11:04 You've got to work for the average of, look what's average of the week. Look what's happening with the exchange. Look what's happening with the prison industry. The prison industry incentivizes small crimes, people doing extensive amount of time for small crimes because it's cheap labor. For profit prisons incentivize the entrapment of individuals. Right? So you're going down the rabbit hole. Meanwhile, Kevin's cutting a YouTube video. Yeah. Dude, I understand the perspective because you know the value of hard work.
Starting point is 01:11:30 There's so people I know the value of skin and a hand. You've got to look at the other side. You've got to look at the other side. That's looking for free later. So let me ask you a question. Upring in what kind of a community you lived in, a family, where your middle income, where you upper class, what was that?
Starting point is 01:11:44 That was at your parents' school. Lost our home near to foreclosure when I was nine years old? What did your parents do? My mom not much worked at Buildabare for a few months. A job here and there, minimum wage. Father had a carpentry business that he started when bankrupt in 2002 and tried clawing himself back working a W2 job at 50k a year. You guys live in apartments or a house? Town house.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Town house. Well apartments and then a town house. Apartment and then a town house. Okay, so middle income class, middle upper class? Like low middle. Low middle. Okay, did you go private or did you go public school? Well, all public school.
Starting point is 01:12:17 All public school. Well, would you set for my first year? That doesn't count. I'm not talking. You went public. Are you public? Public school. So we're all public here.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Private college. Parents stay together. Your parents stay together went public. Are you public? I'm public. So we're all public here. Private college. Parents stay together. Your parents stay together? I was Catholic, then none of them died. Your parents married still today? Divorce that's six. Divorce that's six parents stay together? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:33 So for me, our parents got a divorce. I was 10 when I saw the divorce. When that happens, you know how it works. It's a pretty complicated situation for a kid when you're going through it, right? OK. So did people see you doing anything big in your life when you were 12 years old?
Starting point is 01:12:47 No, to be honest, were people saying this guy's gonna take over the world? Nothing, I'm aware. Were you a person that this guy's gonna go probably kill a little bit of life? I was no validictorian. I was like, I was the person who was looking up my next strategy for Halo and split herself
Starting point is 01:13:03 in the back of the class, okay? My idea is always been to get people off of needing help programs to be independent. The more you make people independent, their confidence goes up, okay? Look at Kevin's confidence today. Go look at Kevin's first video, look at Kevin's video today.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Look what's happened to Kevin. I followed Kevin from, you know, you sent me a message years ago on by you, Taman, I don't know what it was. And I think, you didn't reply to me. Did I? Seriously, I didn't reply to him.
Starting point is 01:13:31 The one probably not years ago, maybe recently you did. Yeah, but I said, I've been following your stuff for the last few years. Yes, and recently, this is. Yeah, I really like your workout. I really like where you're going, but here's what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:13:42 You're officially a business model. Folks, I don't know if you know or not. This guy made six million last years. It's not like you made a hundred grand last years. You didn't make 200 grand. He's a 20-some year old, making 6.2 million last year. 29, but you're in your 20s. Making 6.0 million last year, okay?
Starting point is 01:13:57 So it's not like you're not a success story. I want those models to be shared. So to go back to yours, you want to be able to get all that incentive, skin in a game. I give you the choice to say no to it. Say no to it. No problem. So by the way, FYI, pushback, go with tears. Here's the tears. Okay. First tears. I'll give it 30 days, no skin in a game. Yeah. 30 days. Let me back here because we've been all back for like eight, eight minutes on it. It's not that I don't, I see your, I see your methodology and I agree with it on a certain level.
Starting point is 01:14:26 What I don't think you're accounting for is just how bad some of these politicians are and just, okay, hold up, hold up. So the bureaucracy, I do not want to incentivize these bureaucrats, I do not want to incentivize the bureaucrats to, I got mine. See, I get here. Let me jump in, okay?
Starting point is 01:14:47 I can see something like Bill DeBlasio increasing homelessness, specifically so he can get three labor. So then what you're talking about is you're calling. Okay, let's get away from homelessness. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait I'm not a second here. Here's your solution. Here's your solution. Oh, yeah. Here's your solution. Okay, listen, Patrick, what you're describing is force, control, retirements. You're saying take it or leave it. Guess what?
Starting point is 01:15:13 That's what we have now. We got minimum wage. Take it or leave it. And guess what people are doing. They're leaving it and they're on the streets. They're dying on our streets because the government isn't providing support. So what do you do? That's different.
Starting point is 01:15:24 That no governor has done before, but should do. They should be ethically obligated to do this. They won. Help educate trust. I can't buy. And guess, stop, stop. So general statements should make it. I just gave you a lot of specifics.
Starting point is 01:15:39 I got a lot of specifics. Whoa, hold on. Hold on. No, no, no, no. What is building 2, 2000 emergency or 80 from emergency facilities with 2000 people in each facility is not this utopian idealism, okay? These are emergency facilities. Let me get to the bottom line.
Starting point is 01:15:55 We got to do an airsline. We got to do an airsline. California. Airistodil says the end is what matters and the end is creating independence. Can we agree that the end is creating independence where people are not relying on welfare and entitlement programs? Is that not what you would describe?
Starting point is 01:16:10 Absolutely. And thank you. So we agree on creating independence as a bot line. Everybody is going to be a bot line. You go, hold on, man. We are not to make you take another shot. And I'm going to give you a third one after that, OK? So we got to create independence.
Starting point is 01:16:21 No more. We're going to do it a good time. OK, give me 30 more seconds. Create independence. You do that Give me 30 more seconds. Create independence. You do that not by people dying on our streets. When more people are dying on our streets to homelessness than gun violence, you know you have a problem.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Give this a try. You get 60 days, national guard, help, educate, trust. Then we have emergency facilities where we deal with the drug problems that you're talking about. We deal with the mental health problems. We educate and we create the independence by giving people an opportunity. What opportunity do you have today?
Starting point is 01:16:48 As a 25 year old, as a 35 year old, as a 45 year old, what opportunity do you have today to go get a career? You're gonna come up with a 10 grand, 20, 30 grand, to go to boot camp, you're gonna come up with the money to go pay for your way through a community college. There's no way for you to get started. You wanna try to get a minimum wage job? Good luck even getting an Uber to drive you there when you haven't had a shower in weeks.
Starting point is 01:17:08 You start with help, education, trust, you create independent. Okay, good. So let's go to housing. What's your solution with housing? Solution with housing is the government is not incentivizing the building of enough houses. It's very simple. It's supply-demand economics. The government doesn't need to be in the way of creating all these unique, special policies
Starting point is 01:17:26 to try to make housing more affordable. We need more houses. And then you have more affordable housing. It's very simple. You could do that by building new communities. Multifamily units. It doesn't matter what. It could be single family, it could be multifamily.
Starting point is 01:17:38 My vision is you legalize gambling. You build Las Vegas style strips around California with housing communities around those powered by solar farms and wind farms, which are very hard today to integrate to our existing ecosystem, because nobody wants to build the transmission lines, but you can build transmission lines when you have new highways going to new communities.
Starting point is 01:17:56 You build 500,000 homes a year versus the 80,000 homes we build now. Now people have a $500,000 homes, that's a lot. A lot of folks don't know the scope of California, though. We have 482 cities in California that works out to a little over a thousand homes on average per city. It's doable. It's possible. And we could do that by streamlining the government processes so we can have new communities more housing. And then we have choices for people to move to more affordable homes and better
Starting point is 01:18:23 transportation. So the state rents them or the state sells them? No, no, no, no. The state just simplifies the building and safety process. You can actually raise the standard a little bit. Have one standard throughout the entire state of California, rather than, you know, 482 different governments, basically saying, well, we want this, we want this, we want this. They can very simple. State of emergency, the governor takes control of the building and safety department. Everything is under the sole power of the state.
Starting point is 01:18:50 He is a Democrat, I just realized. I'm only, I know why you're running. Listen, he's running for dictator of California. Oh my God. I'm in the state of emergency. Take your shot away. Take your shot right now. It's a state of emergency. Take your shot right now. It's a state of emergency.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Take your shot. Guess what? You know what is the state of emergency? The state of emergency is the unaffordable rent prices and home prices we have in our state. Why is it unaffordable? Because we need 300,000 homes a year to stay even. We're building 80,000 homes.
Starting point is 01:19:22 You know what the median home price is? You want to hear dictatorship? Median home price $800,000 homes. You know what the median home price is? You want to hear dictatorship, median home price, $800,000. And that's dictatorship. How is somebody going to get started building wealth in California when those are the median home prices? You can't mean- What's the occupancy rate right now?
Starting point is 01:19:34 The occupancy rate, you know, I mean, look around at the vacancies that we have in commercial, every city's different, but we've got vacant commercial buildings, office buildings that aren't being used. We can redevelop these to multifamily housing, but we need to expedite that. You can expedite that when every city is fighting with every county. Why is the sheriff-
Starting point is 01:19:50 It's a great point. Is California too big? Should it be broken up? No, it's not a size issue. It's a leadership issue. Why is it that the sheriff of LA is fighting the mayor of LA and they're both going, well, I mean, we can't do it because of these rules. You need somebody at the top who goes, we need reasonable policies. We have to address our states of emergency
Starting point is 01:20:06 to benefit all Californians. We can do that by raising standards, but having one standard rather than nearly 500 standards. That's how you build more homes in California. That's how you create affordable housing. You guys all live in California, I didn't. So is the lifestyle the same in Sacramento that is in LA? No, not even close.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Is the cost of living this, so I mean, no. So to that point, would one standardization throughout the state, is it a one size fits all state? Well, here, let me tell you what's a crime right now. California licenses architects and engineers. We know that, you want to be an architect engineer, you got to get licensed.
Starting point is 01:20:40 They verify that you have ENO, you have liability insurance, you have workers come. But guess what those architects, engineers, and contractors can't do? They can't help you get started on your project until you wait for months to get building approval. And I'm not saying do away with building inspections. We got to have building inspections, we got to have audits. But we got a streamline the entire process because right now we have more homes sitting vacant sometimes for years that could be providing homes. We don't even have to build 500,000 homes.
Starting point is 01:21:06 If we just streamlined our existing building and safety standards. You're an interesting cat, man. We have two more points by the way. I got solutions. I got solutions. So, solutions. Fix the traffic on the four of five.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Let's go. What you need is very simple. You need optional toll roads. Optional toll roads. Why do I say optional? Because you don't want to regressively tax individuals who are now forced to take a toll road. So you have optional toll roads.
Starting point is 01:21:31 For example, you've got tight areas between, let's say, the 101, around the 101 interchange in the 405. You have horrible traffic. What do you do? You build optional tunnels, six lane, variable direction tunnels, underneath those directions of travel. So when rush hours go on one way, all six tunnels are going that way and they're paid toll roads, which then profit the business who builds them under, under obviously, you know, making sure it's safe and the government's involved in partnership with
Starting point is 01:21:57 this, you partner and the state takes a cut of the toll road revenue to where you're actually building three additional roads for the state. That's making money for the state, but you're charging for those optional roads. So the people who want to go commute faster, they can pay a buck or whatever it might be for their transit. I'm just curious, if you were able to push through some of these big things like toll roads and tunnels and everything like that.
Starting point is 01:22:20 And then you were no longer the governor. Do the projects have to continue? Are they already funded and taken care of? Are're going to happen regardless. Or if you're not the governor in three years, could be gone. Well, this is why it's very, very important that our first year gets off going very strongly because we want Californians to see this is the change we want. We solved homelessness. Do you imagine we just solved homelessness within the first year? That would be a win because nobody's been able to do that before. The last 17 years homelessness has gone sky high. And guess who's been in power for the last 17
Starting point is 01:22:48 years in California? Gavin Newsom. So the problem is our existing leadership in our existing government. We need solutions that make sense to Californians. When solutions make sense to Californians, and we start implementing those, Californians will demand those continue. Okay, last one, schools. Let's address that one. How you gonna fix the education? Future schools. So here's what I believe. I believe that humans are entitled, entitled to buy 18 graduating debt free
Starting point is 01:23:14 and with the opportunity to get a career. That's what I believe. But what do our high schools teach today? That's teaching geography and geometry. You graduate high school, what happens? Maybe you get a minimum wage job or you go hundreds of thousands of dollars into student debt. That is not how to lead a life.
Starting point is 01:23:29 That is how to stay poor. That is how to stay broke, especially in a state where there's high homelessness, happiness levels go down, and it's difficult to get around because traffic is so problematic, and it's difficult to build wealth because housing is so expensive. Now don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 01:23:41 California is beautiful. In California is so much potential. We've got really smart people in California. The leadership is broken. And by solving the leadership at our schools, in partnership with our unions, our school unions, we can make schooling better. Teachers are miserable, teaching the same boring curriculum, seeing their students graduated 18, turning homeless or not able to get a job or working two or three minimum wage jobs, and then they have a child, and then guess what,
Starting point is 01:24:06 now they're working two or three minimum wage jobs and they're in poverty and they're on social services. That is not what California should be fostering if that's exactly what California is doing. We should be providing careers for people because guess what happens? You have a career and you provide lots of value to a business because you have a skill,
Starting point is 01:24:21 well then maybe you can get maternity leave. And you're not relying on the government. The point is get people off rely on the reliant on the government we gotta get government out of people's lives k so that one i get it we want people to get off of government should we fire terrible teachers or should we keep them uh... keep ten year going well i mean uh... okay with so this i think that that goes into uh... very uh... nuanced discussion as well but i think think I just want to make this point here, I think we are on the same wavelength
Starting point is 01:24:48 of we want to get the government out of people's lives. We want people not to be dependent on the government, but the way you get there is by actually instituting real change, and you do that with our homeless plan, you do that with our future. We want another 160,000 homeless people. I didn't say that.
Starting point is 01:25:04 The government out of your life. Letting the government can a state of emergency and take everything over. So let me ask you, candidates running against you. Or are you saying that homelessness is not a state of emergency? Are you saying that housing is not? It's about time you went on the offensive. Good
Starting point is 01:25:21 job. But the the idea and that that you're appealing to my libertarian nature by talking about regulation, the way bureaucracy has strangle hold over commerce. These are all accurate things. These are things that it's refreshing, frankly, to hear a Democrat admit that this is true. But then you cow-towd to the unions as if they're not a bureaucracy that's harming the educational process as well. And also we're talking about building new homes and we're not talking about the government disincentive to build new homes because right now it's free money for Section 8. The reason that new homes aren't
Starting point is 01:26:01 being made is that you have these commercial real estate, these buy zoning. The reason that new homes aren't being made is that you have these commercial real estate, these buy zoning, the reason why every city in America looks the same now is because of government guys. The reason why there's shops on the first floor and then apartments on the next floor floors is because of government. This is how you maximize real estate. What's wrong with that? I go to downtown Europe.
Starting point is 01:26:19 I love that. I love having a coffee shop downtown and people are able to live above. What's wrong with that? What do you mean? I didn't say there's anything wrong with it. You're saying that you're gonna build more houses. There's a disincentive to build houses
Starting point is 01:26:29 because right now, if you have Patrick, if you have Patrick's gonna invest $100 million into a place, he's not gonna invest in old school baby boomer wide spread suburbia. It's not gonna be urban sprawl. It's gonna be a commercial section on the bottom, and it's going to be three floors of section eight, and then three floors that you can put out into a reat at $3,000 monthly, they stay vacant the whole time, and it's going to make
Starting point is 01:26:52 five times as money. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I get where you're coming from. I do think a lot of government programs create issues in housing, such as rent control, and I'm not proposing get rid of rent control, but I understand that rent control actually disincentivizes available units on the market. And so there are some issues where rent control can actually increase rents, but we don't need to talk about rent control.
Starting point is 01:27:12 What we need to focus on is more options for folks. And guess what's happening right now? Because it's so hard to go through the building and safety processes, you come into California with $100 million, you wanna build of, you know, I don't know, 20, 30 homes or something like that, or you wanna build 100 homes, whatever, you want to build, you know, I don't know, 20, 30 homes or something like that, or you want to build 100 homes, whatever, you can
Starting point is 01:27:28 build with your budget. You are incentivized in California to build mansions. Why? Because when you can build a house for $2 million and you could sell it for five, it pays for all the headache and nonsense you went to for two or three years dealing with the architects and the building and the bureaucrats and the regulation. We're not incentivizing actually building smaller, lower end units because it's so impossible and then it's not profitable.
Starting point is 01:27:53 So it's actually, I mean, like, look, we're on the same wavelength. I just believe that these programs are coming in making folks less interested in providing the company. So, so teachers, fire bad teachers are keep good teachers. What do we do with bad teachers? I need to understand that a lot more. What you're asking me, because I do not have all of the answers and statistics for you on that.
Starting point is 01:28:13 I think I personally believe that if you suck at your job, you should not be working that job. Well, your biggest battles, the teachers union. And that's where you gotta get in. That's what I was trying to say. I don't believe that I am anti-teachers union. I believe that I am for a combination of businesses working with unions and nonprofits
Starting point is 01:28:31 to provide better education. We could do that together under the leadership of a government. Okay, fair enough. So I got a question here for you from Prince. Kai, if you want to go on Twitter, Prince An-Yawu, Prince asked question on Twitter, hey, meet Kevin, I was considering relocating to California for a job in tech.
Starting point is 01:28:47 But tech companies are expanding or moving to Texas. They live in Dallas. How would you recruit me to your state as a governor? Good question. Great question. Yeah. Well, the first thing that we need is businesses staying. We've lost coin base.
Starting point is 01:29:00 We've got a Tesla Gigafactory going to Florida. Businesses are leaving in droves. Their headquarters are moving out. Hewlett-Packer moved out. They're endless businessmen. We're in the... If that came in the PHP start. California, Baltimore.
Starting point is 01:29:11 Where'd they go to? Texas and Florida. Well, you know, I interviewed, for example, an HVAC, one of my HVAC salesperson, and he's saying he's losing his employees. That's not the question, can I? It's Prince. Yeah, well, so the answer is, how do you get businesses to stay? salesperson, and he's saying he's losing his employees. That's not the question, Chris. The other state. It's prints.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Yeah. Well, so the answer is, how do you get businesses to stay? First of all, you get businesses to stay with proper, reasonable regulation, not this overbearing regulation that we have now. We need to lower income taxes for everyone. That's very key. No income taxes under the first $250,000. There's a pay raise for everyone in California.
Starting point is 01:29:44 Can you do that? It has to be done with the legislature. Okay. Yeah, so that's a... By the way, you do that. That's a very big thing if you're a bit about that. That makes California competitive. Of course it does.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Exactly. Because right now we're not. How do you pass that with the massive budget that you have for the state? All these social programs, you want to cut taxes for people under a quarter of a million? Oh, yeah. That's rough. Because here's why most of the taxes, somewhere around, well, the vast majority of our taxes are paid by people
Starting point is 01:30:09 making over $250,000. That's where the vast majority of our taxes come into. Do you actually know the numbers? So right now, if we had, if we instituted my plan and we had no taxes on the first $250,000, we would generate a little over 60% of our revenue from the people over $250,000 under the current tax regime. But here's what we need. When we legalize gambling, when we have toll roads, when we reduce welfare costs, when we reduce community college and
Starting point is 01:30:37 high school costs by combining community colleges and high schools into future schools, what are you doing? You're going through every layer of government, you're getting folks off of social services by giving them more income. You're creating more opportunities to spend. You're building more houses, which is more tax revenue. You are growing the economy to where over time, you do not need as many tax revenues. One of the most reasonable Democrats
Starting point is 01:31:00 that I've heard in a long time. Let's go. Outside of the whole occupied mic state, I want to own thing. It's really very reasonable. Thank you. I don't know what your opposition is to stopping people dying on our street. Hey, are there going to be any debates? I hope so. You know, right now, guess who controls the election date? The governor's office. Ooh. So the date is even said. It's not even said. It's the day before the law does something. It's the day before the law does something.
Starting point is 01:31:26 It's the day before the law does something. If any state ever did need a state of emergency, if any state ever did. It's California. It's California. How do you feel about the lawsuit? How do you feel about Caitlyn Jenner running with her policies? Come on.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Any Republican running is not going to make anything happen in the state. First of all, you go through the policies of the other candidates. Nobody has a plan. Nobody has a plan. Nobody has a plan that I found. I, there, there are generic things about- Did you pull up Caitlin Jenner's plan? Last red tape or, okay, maybe we should deal with the homelessness because the person outside the airport hanger is, is, is homeless as Caitlin Jenner.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Where, where's the real plan? We need real action. Now, I don't really care about the other candidates, because I don't believe they're my competition. My competition is Governor Newsom. Who is screwing this thing? Well, I don't think he is, because I think he's, I think people have accepted the fact that this is not a good governor
Starting point is 01:32:16 for the state of California. I think people have finally got to a point where they're, by the way, can he be recalled and win? No, no, if he's recalled these options. He's out. So that's what I'm saying. I don't if he's recalled these off. No, no, no, no. So that's what I'm saying. I don't think he's your competition.
Starting point is 01:32:27 I think the state of California is, I think your competition is John Cox. It's Kevin Wagner. It's Jenner. It's Doug Ose. You know, you got a few of these guys. I'm obviously major William, some of these other guys that are coming up
Starting point is 01:32:38 that are potentially making a little name for themselves, but that's really the people you're looking at. I don't believe it. It's like I respectfully believe it. You think Newson is your competition? 100% if Newson gets recalled, we win. Newson's got to go. We need people to say yes on recall. Newson gets recalled, you win. That's right. So you're saying if the ex amount vote for the recall on the election, the recall election is happening. we we the recall election is happening it's a hundred percent it's happening but the date hasn't been set because the governor's office gets to determine that meanwhile they're suing their own administration uh... for a law that
Starting point is 01:33:12 they signed into law calling their own on the july four six o'clock at night it's ridiculous it's ridiculous and buses will be provided for all his supporters uh... any debates yet.
Starting point is 01:33:25 Has there been any debates with anybody? No, there were debates. I will debate any of that. You know, and this got you ready. And this is a good little prep. You guys are easy. Bring it on. I don't know if the audience is saying that,
Starting point is 01:33:37 but that's good for you to know. Oh, God. That's good. We can do. We can do it. Patrick's got a work of our ducks in house here. We can get an animated Gavin Newsome and an animated Caitlin Jenner, and we can have the whole debate right here.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Why don't we talk about another topic here? Go to about valedictorians. Let's just kind of get an opinion. Kevin's got the strong opinions about a lot of different things. Here's a CNBC story. This is why class valedictorians don't become millionaires. Everyone remembers their class valedictorian. Perfect grades, perfect test scores, and in some cases perfect hair. They probably went on to professional fame and enormous wealth, right?
Starting point is 01:34:12 Not necessarily. In his new book, Eric Barker explores the maxims we use to discuss success. He finds a valid Victorian rarely becomes standout successes. His assessments are based on research by Karen Arnold, a professor of Boston College and the authors of Lives of Promise, what becomes of high school valedictorian. She tracked the 81 high school, this is pretty interesting. She tracks 81 high school valedictorians after graduation. She writes. He writes, there was a little debate that high school success predicted college success. Nearly 90% are now in professional careers with 40% and highest tier jobs. They are reliable, consistent, and well adjusted. By all measures, the majority
Starting point is 01:34:52 have good lives, but how many of them are number one high school performers go on to change the world, the run the world or impress the world? The answer seems to be clear. You know what the answer is? Zero. Not one. Not five. Zero. It seems that the traits that set one up for exceptional success in high school and college self-discipline. And the ability to comply with rules
Starting point is 01:35:14 are not the same traits that lead individuals to start disruptive companies or make shocking breakthroughs. Valid Victorians aren't likely to be the future visionaries. Says Arnold, they typically settle into the system instead of shaking things up what do you about that bingo you know I'll give the guy credit for getting a lot of publicity for writing a bullshit book you know I think I think I think I think I've written a lot of books I've written a lot of books Tom's on one day to kill a Tom is my favorite Tom that's nothing hey I'm off
Starting point is 01:35:43 for writing books I've written 41 of them. Okay, I know what it takes. I write nonfiction. He writes fiction. To say that there's zero valedictorians that have been successful, this guy's a nerd that got shot down by a valedictorian, and he's probably a virgin.
Starting point is 01:35:56 I mean, if you break through this, okay, here's some names. Are these people not successful? Hillary Clinton, Conan O'Brien, Cindy Crawford, Kevin Spacey, Jody Foss, Timber, Timber, Timber, Timber, Cindy Crawford was a valedictorian. Yes, yes, she was into Cal Bill annoying. You can look all these up, Kai Verify in form. We look for him to say zero is wrong, but good job getting in his study.
Starting point is 01:36:17 So he must have picked the certain people. Look, I think the key of what you mentioned here that relates so much is this talk about norms and not having visionary breakthrough ideas. And that's what California needs. look i think the key of what you mentioned here that relates so much is this this talk about norms and and not having visionary breakthrough ideas and that's what california needs all the what is the a-o-c-m-s-n-b-c just happened
Starting point is 01:36:36 uh... how is the solid spin he sees leaning into this whole politician thing so hey he quote at least you know i he quote an hour style before least you know, I quote an hour style before I'll quote Marilyn Monroe by saying, well behave women rarely make history, man. And that's the thing here, right? Like, what makes you a valedictorian?
Starting point is 01:36:55 It's obedience, right? Like, your rear smart, but high school is not hard. Colleges isn't hard. They tell you exactly what to do. And then, you all you got to do is do what they tell you to do. There's no innovation in a modern modern-and-education. There's a literal syllabus. They say do this by this day and if you can do it because other people are trying to
Starting point is 01:37:11 do it as well. Sure. So far. Sure. Fine. Whatever. But I mean, dude, I remember watching I was there watching Pat with with Jordan Peterson and talked about disagreement.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Remember, he talked about the ability to be disagreeable. All right. And one of my favorite interviews on this channel. And he was talking about like, why are men predominantly more in positions of power and authority than women, and is it because of societal, systemic issues? And Jordan Peterson said, yeah, some of it, but most of it is just because they have a,
Starting point is 01:37:42 men have a predilection to being disagreeable. We don't mind disagreeing with one another. As you've seen at this table today, whereas maybe it's the way women are raised or maybe it's something to do, nature and nurture, but they tend to want to avoid that conflict, at least in public, kind of certainly in private, but in public, they don't want to be seen as being disagreeable. And that ability to be disagreeable is the number one determinant of your ability to rise through the ranks of business.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Right? So I think that that there's something to be said for the way and this goes back to the earlier education, conversation about education. There's something to be said for the way that we are systemically teaching people to be obedient, not to be intelligent and
Starting point is 01:38:22 that's something that we're doing. We are raising factory workers. We're raising people who need to show up at a certain time, clock in, clock out. Corporate clones, basically. That's it. Our public education system is made so that people can effectively work at Amazon warehouses,
Starting point is 01:38:39 not create a competitor to Amazon. What's the story when you knew some soon is on Elections Chief over missing democratic label on recall ballot here about that i don't know what are your thoughts on that yeah we've actually got a legal team about working on exactly that so here's what's happening governor newsroom passed a law that says hey in a recall the recall candidate can put his party preference on the ballot so that way instead of it saying should gavan Newsom be recalled, it says, should Gavin Newsom
Starting point is 01:39:07 a Democrat be recalled? It's marketing. It's marketing 101 in a Democratic state. It is very brilliant that law they passed. But guess what? In the law, he signed. He said, you have to make that determination at the beginning of the recall, which was February of 2020, this particular recall, he failed to do that, missed his own deadline, is now suing his own administration,
Starting point is 01:39:31 calling it unfair, unconstitutional and unreasonable. You know what's unfair, unconstitutional, unreasonable? The fact that- The fact that you still wear in California- The fact that he can raise unlimited amounts of money from anyone, and I can raise $32,400 per person. Recall candidates have campaign contribution limits. Governor Newsom does not.
Starting point is 01:39:50 And yet he's saying in his own lawsuit that his own law that he signed a law is unconstitutional because other candidates can pick their party preference later. When people would give me flack about voting libertarian, you're throwing your vote away, you're throwing your vote away, that 5% barrier is everything.
Starting point is 01:40:05 If you can get to 5% of the national vote, it unlocks an entire different level of funding that you have access to and ballot access. You have to get 5% of the national vote in order to access the funding equality and the unpack that. Yeah, so. Unpack it. So basically, if anybody ever actually really cared to this is why Ross Perot was so important when he got 18% of the vote, he essentially he walked
Starting point is 01:40:32 Clinton into office. He stole 18% of Bush's vote, right? This is he did, he walked him in. So, what he was able to do then is he had financial and ballot access the next time. That's why they begged him to run again. He was four years older. He didn't care. He just didn't want bush He hated bush. He hated what the bush is stand for he actually never really wanted to be president He wanted to use it for his personal brand He wanted to get his point across and he did that and remember the the three hour late-night Case studies with the best doc that had Ross for all used to do every now and this is why we need to get off all you know that it's he was talking about getting off our oil dependence before
Starting point is 01:41:13 you know this was twenty five years ago yeah and so you know that we would only waste a little as the middle east of the government or yeah and that's that was this close to being president so the the idea is if you can get 5% of the national vote, if you get 5%, you have ballot access equality. So you have to be on the ballot for the next election cycle in every state as opposed to having to petition
Starting point is 01:41:36 for ballot access. And also the way the media works is you have equal opportunity laws. So like if somebody gives a Democratic candidate X amount of air time They have to you should know this time by law Give the Republican candidate the same amount of air time if they requested if you get 5% of the ballot access now The libertarian candidate whoever it was can ask for that same amount of equal air time So they can't have a debate and not allow Gary Johnson on the stage They can't have a debate and not allow just an amish on stage.
Starting point is 01:42:07 That 5% is everything. So with Gary Johnson in 2016, they got like 1.8%. And then with this clown show that they just had with Joe Jorgensen and Spike Cohen, it went down to like 0.9%. So they're going in the wrong direction. But 5% is everything. That 5% gives you a puncherers chance four years from that 5% Sueyn over a law that you voted in or that you signed is unbelievable any
Starting point is 01:42:31 other politician does that they're getting destroyed well I then that's exactly why I think we and we have a legal team working on it we we want to sue and make that extremely clear that's expensive to sue that's probably gonna cost a hundred thousand dollars to get a temporary training order which you can get out as early as next week in July 4th weekend which slows things down and make that extremely clear. That's expensive to sue. It's probably gonna cost $100,000 to get a temporary training order, which you can get out as early as next week in July 4th weekend, which slows things down. She's probably why Newsom filed his lawsuit
Starting point is 01:42:51 when he did, right before July 4th weekend. But it's all to bury his own mistakes, his own hypocrisy of his own policies in other news. And I mean, look, marketing-wise, I get it, but it's a scam. So here's a big question in California. Is there a silent majority out there
Starting point is 01:43:11 that has to support Gavin Newsom because he's a Democrat and you gotta put the sign on in your front yard because you are under so much pressure to have those political beliefs if you live in California. You literally cannot admit that you're a Republican. It's career suicide. Could these people be stepping up, it going and actually getting him out this fall? I hope so.
Starting point is 01:43:29 And that's why I'm running is I believe that this is not a Republican recall. It's a California recall. And Californians need a new, better option. And that's me. That's absolutely right. The numbers are, you know, out of the recall votes. I think it's 79% or 80% as Republicans, but 20% are Democrats. So it's not like it's just Republicans calling out.
Starting point is 01:43:51 You know how you always say, this is a Republican recall, it's not. It's actually not. It's people on both sides that are not happy about. And he's spinning that totally. That's all he's branding it as. It's a right-wing nut job. Like you and I is going after him or something.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Do you speaking of nut jobs, do you think there are people that are going to look at you sitting at a table with four men in close proximity with no mask on and say, this guy can't lead us? We don't have to wear masks anymore. And wear. In California? In California.
Starting point is 01:44:17 In California. In California. In Delta variant. Yeah, on the 15th, those requirements went away. So you can actually get in. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. On the 15th, you feel like you want to win California. Yeah, for two words, we've been so. uh... yeah on the fifteenth uh... that those requirements went away so you can ask the fifteen
Starting point is 01:44:27 for two really do you feel and so and i just a couple of days ago saying you have to work and you got a lot of mass she suggested that we were wearing masks and interviews
Starting point is 01:44:37 yeah on zoom meetings uh... how you how you so that i have a no idea you can't get a computer you know you were a mask in the zone you know you have to get a computer virus You wear a mask in the zoom in to get a computer virus. What's it going to take for you to leave the state of California? Anything or no? It's getting this recall to happen.
Starting point is 01:44:50 That's what it says. What it doesn't happen. Would you ever leave the state of California? Oh, to leave. I'm sorry. I thought you said leave. No, no, leave. Leave the state of California.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Leave. We got to get the recall. Because you see some of your peers who are YouTubers. They're leaving California. They're going to Tennessee, Nevada, Florida, Texas. Would you ever leave the state of California for gut any worse? It's tough. It's something that has actually been probably the biggest issue
Starting point is 01:45:16 in our family at home is I am so frustrated with California and it's why I'm running because California's such a great and beautiful place. The weather is so beautiful. Only 7% of the world has the Mediterranean climate where I live. I've got the Mediterranean climate. And so many things I love about California, but the things that I hate about California, seeing people die on the streets, the housing, and affordability, the regulation.
Starting point is 01:45:39 How long it takes me to get a building permit for a ceiling fan? It takes me eight weeks to permit a ceiling fan because, oh, well, staff cuts and the fired apartments coming over to my house going weeks for a ceiling fan. I got the fire department coming over. Kevin, we've got the fire department, spoke to the fire department. We've got millions of dollars ready to build a new fire station, but we can't get the authorization to do it. Meanwhile, our response times are going down and Californians are suffering.
Starting point is 01:46:07 It's all of the agencies throughout our state that are suffering. And that's what's so sad is the California and aggregate knows that there are problems. We just need a stronger leader. But yeah, we've, look, I'm a big proponent of, in our family of saying, look, the taxation, the lack of representation we get, is a driver to move to the beach in Florida, to move to Texas and start a new company or a large media business in Texas,
Starting point is 01:46:34 or South Florida or whatever. They would welcome you with open arms. Here's your space, here are your permits, you're operating right away. See, opposite, see, opposite in California. And so there's so many things that drive me out. Now, Lauren, my wife doesn't want to leave because of friends and family.
Starting point is 01:46:48 It makes sense. It makes sense. So it is, California's problems have driven a wedge into our relationship because they're so bad the problems in California. That's why you see that happen, by the way. How much are you seeing that in marriages, right? Now, families are in a friendship.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Friendship is getting destroyed. Certainly identity politics doesn't help. That destroys a lot of relationships as well. But the problems in California bring those identities out. So lots of relationships. Pat, I think if you came back to California for a month and you spent there, I think the one thing that you would notice is
Starting point is 01:47:17 they've gotten rid of glamour. Glamour used to define California. It used to be something that drawed people in. It was glamorous. It was a sex dream. The dream, LA, the lifestyle Hollywood. The way Hollywood is being run right now, it is completely destroyed glamour. You drive through the streets of West Hollywood. You feel depressed. You see the advertisements on the billboards now. It's all negative content. It's stuff you don't want to watch. That's not a California town. That's America, man.
Starting point is 01:47:41 There's no more heroes. It's all this different. You know, it always had that gleaming thing that people wanted to go to. And it's just they've gotten rid of glamour and that's really depressing. FYI, it's sold on SJK who gave $500 who moved here from New York City. If you want to apply for a job, send us an email, text us at 310-340-1132-310-340-1132. We will schedule an interview with you. Kevin, final thoughts, California, how do you envision this thing taking place over the next? What's the timeline with the recall right now?
Starting point is 01:48:10 How much time do we got? We've got probably either the first week, first, second week of September, through the first week of November. That's our range for when the election is, which makes it really hard to campaign to figure out when you want to do your rallies. But yeah, look, the issue that a lot of Californians
Starting point is 01:48:27 don't understand right now is the recall is one ballot. A lot of folks right now believe, okay, I'll vote on the recall, and if Gavin's recalled, then I'll look at the backup options. It doesn't work that way. You get one ballot. Should Gavin Newsom be recalled, yes or no?
Starting point is 01:48:40 Pick your backup. It's on one ballot. And so if California wants those 20 changes, especially the top five, which are the number one priority for your number one, solving homelessness, traffic, community policing, and our future schools, right? The other issues that we've talked about, then California should vote. Yes, on that recall and vote. Yes, on Meet Kevin Palfroth for governor. Go to Meet Kevin.com to support. Put the link below, Kai. Meetkeven.com. Meetkeven.com.
Starting point is 01:49:07 If you like what he stands for, smash that thumbs up button, subscribe to the channel, on Go, give to his campaign. With that being said, we're going to do this again, is it again next Tuesday? Yes, sir. We're doing next Tuesday, same time. Kevin, thank you so much for coming out here. Really enjoyed it. And I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it just so much as we did as well. Thank you you so much for coming out here. Really enjoyed it. And I hope you enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:49:26 Thank you all. Thank you guys. Great job everybody. Pleasure. Appreciate you.

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