PBD Podcast - Michael Franzese SLAMS Biden For Selling U.S. Secrets | Ep. 269 | Part 1

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

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30% Okay, so we got a special podcast for you here today. It's not often you have two Michaels, two mics on the podcast, two heavyweights in their own space. One, the great Michael Francie's, the other, the great Mike Tyson. But to start off, because we like building anticipation, we're gonna start off with Michael Franci's first,

and then Mike is gonna work his way in here in a minute, but Michael, that's great to have you on a podcast. Good, I'm the opener today. Yeah. You're the opener today. Always good to be back. Michael, how many times have we done stuff to get at this point? I can't.

Yeah, I can't keep count. The other day, guy was asking questions and so, you know, when, how did you and Michael get connected? I said, man, it was not supposed to even happen because I was running late from Jordan, Belford, South, and he was gracious enough to wait and we went to his house. He was so pissed off he didn't even put shoes on.

It was in his socks. And it was the most common to think about Michael's sock. Look at Michael's power play, not wearing any shoes. I still hear about that. Comment the thing about Michael sock. Look at Michael's power play not more than his shoes I still hear about that To people ask me was Patrick disrespectful when he came to you Take his shoes But it's exciting to have you on obviously we got some things to talk about will you and Mike a big project?

You guys are working on champions corner. We'll get into them when you get to see I'm excited to learn more about that But Michael lots been happening since the last time you and I spoke on a live podcast. We've spoken obviously about different kind of issues. One of the things I want to just, with the time that we have here before we get Mike here, what are your thoughts about what happened with Tucker, what happened with Fox, his next move, Fox's mistake,

is there stuff that we're not thinking about. What are some things you saw when that announcement was made? Well, I really think Tucker was blindsided. I mean, we chatted a little bit back and forth. They didn't know what was going to happen. But Patrick, it just seems today that you can't say anything that's going to offend anybody in any way. The news is not what the news was before. I mean, everything is about opinions and who you're going to, you know, offend or not offend.

And, you know, I mean, I think it was crazy, you know, to take a guy like that off the air. I mean, who had such a huge following. I mean, honestly, it doesn't affect him. He can go anywhere he wants, as you know. But I couldn't believe it. I can't believe, you know, on a whole, what's going on, it's unbelievable. Yeah, really.

He's a once in a generation type of a guy. Yeah, you've been around the block for a while. So you've watched, who was it before Rush, by the way? Was there a Rush before Rush? Or I don't believe so. Okay, so let's just say rush let's go rush or ily back maigen tucker

when you look at all these names specially on the conservative side what do you rank tucker amongst those five oh my god is right up on top now i mean really you put them ahead of rush well rush rush is like an institution you know he's been around so long i mean you know what i was in jail when i first started in writing who he was but i started listening to him and i started to realize and i was always a democrat mob guys are always democrats and the reason is because they were easier to

corrupt so you know we're all with democrats why are they so much easier to corrupt they just were willing to take more money there were they just were i mean they have no backbone what is it you know i can't explain it because we didn't get involved with republicans they were all democrats and and in new york and we got involved with them but i'm in the whole and i'm listening to rush limbaugh and i'm saying you know what i think i'm a conservative because i agree with a lot of the things this guy is saying and that's how i became uh... that's when i realized that was conservative. It was from Rush. So, Rush, so you, so you put Rush slightly ahead of Tucker? I think so, because he was around so long and he, what he built this unbelievable, really.

And his style was, was what? Was Rowdy, he would, he would call everybody out, he was, was he the intellectual guy, as well as the history guy, as well as the call out troll, you know, the showman, what made him special, what made Rush Rush? Honestly. I mean, he was honest, you know, he, whatever he said, whatever he felt he said. And I thought he was brilliant, very, very smart guy, very well read. He knew exactly what he was talking about.

He called it, what did he call himself? Like he was Einstein, you know, brain from God is something, but just his whole style, I mean, he was great. And Patrick, when somebody is so good for so long, you gotta give him a lot of credit. He was great. He was a guy that started all of this. Back to the Tucker situation.

Yeah. You know, we had that conversation that sit down, some may call it last Thursday. And some people were basically believed that Tucker was sort of fired as a byproduct of the dominion lawsuit where they wanted ahead. They wanted a scapegoat to see, all right, we got the money, but we also got this. How much you think that was factored in into Tucker's situation? I think that was part of it, but I also got this. How much you think that was factored in to talk her situation? I think that was part of it, but I heard, you know,

he was not that he intentionally did it, but in the way he spoke, he offended Murdoch in a big way. Some of the things that he said, you know, about some of the people there. I heard he gave a speech, you know, at a college a couple of days before. Heritage. Yeah, at Heritage, and it was very offensive according to the people at Fox.

So it was a couple of things. And I think Fox thinks, hey, we let Megan go, we survived. We let Riley go, Riley, we survived. So I think maybe they thought they can survive again. I don't know how you replace Tucker. Michael, honestly, to kind of maybe use almost like a mafia analogy here, Murdoch's the boss.

That's El Hefe. To use a mafia analogy, should a flag carrier, a talking head, ever offend the boss. Like, what's the, if you can make some synergy into this situation well you on the street you don't do that you just don't do that you know that's dangerous right

but you know you're talking about corporate america you shouldn't be like that and and he didn't do this to offend the boss he just spoke what he felt to be true you know i mean i found them to be very honest you spent time with Tucker no i have I have not. Oh, you haven't. Okay, he's very genuine, very, very honest. And he says what he feels. And I think he really cares. He really does.

Because we talked off camera about certain things. And he, you know, didn't mean to be offensive, he just spoke his piece. How was it? What do you, I mean, I don't know. You know, if the guy is the guy at the top of the company, you're at that, you're paying nine out of 10 times, you're gonna have problems if you're gonna do it that way.

To me, the way to do it is to do it to his face, not behind, like anytime I've had issues with the guy that I am working for, right? I've had bosses in my life. I always, I had a issue with one time with this one, lady I was working with. She was about to make a very bad decision, terrible decision.

And it had to do with one of our friends, you met him before, you know, who lived in France for seven years, who has a great accent, and you've spent a lot of time with him. He likes to walk around with no clothes on. He likes to walk around with no clothes on. So one day, I get a word that he's about to lose a lot of money.

And she was making a decision because from the top, it was kind of being influenced for her to do so. Everybody that was working with this lady was not supportive of the decision she was about to make. I called her up, I said, can I meet you guys at the house tonight at midnight? I go to the house at midnight, we have a two hour conversation. I said, look, I'm going to give you my argument. I think you make an terrible decision here,

but I don't want to do it in front of everybody. I want to just kind of do it privately to you, and hopefully you'll receive it, and then you do what you do with it. So I did. And she ended up actually not doing what she was going to do to that guy, which I got a lot of respect for the fact that she didn't do it, because she was reasonable enough to receive the argument. So, to me, I think if you're going to do it, I would go one-on-one. Now, at the same time, on the flip side, we don't know the whole story. The whole story could be Tucker's been trying to get there for a while, and nobody's been listening to him, and he's the go to the organization, and how do you not listen to your best

guy? If an organization has a person like that, sometimes talk you don't have like if you ever read the book principles Radalio, you know People would come and then they would say we should do this in the company We should do that in the company. You don't do this and you don't do that and you don't do this He says there's a lot of people I want to tell you how to run a company and to have an earned a moral authority to tell you how to run the company But they're uncertain people that have earned the right to tell you, you know, feedback

on blind spots the company may have. If there's anybody that had moral authority to give feedback to Fox, it was Tucker Carlson. So whether it was received or not behind closed doors, it is what it is. The guy that did it right and had a lot of issues with the owner was Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan and Steve, you know, Jerry Krauss and Jerry. Jerry Ryan. The two Jerry's, you know, he had issues with him. We'd always say, look, people come here to watch the players play.

But we respect this and we respect that. And I look what happened with Michael. Michael's a multi billionaire today. And so there's ways to handle it. I don't know the whole story behind closed doors. But if you're going to think you you're gonna find a once in a generation type of guy like Tucker, it's gonna be hard to find a guy like that.

But, here's a deal. In mainstream media, who would you consider as the Yankees when it comes on topolitics? CNN. You put CNN as Yankees over Fox? I mean, if you go to any airport, any mainstream outlet, they're going to have CNN on TV. That's more affiliation, right?

If you're talking numbers, talking numbers, you're going to put Fox, right? Okay. Who's the most hated organization in Major League Baseball? Yankees. Who's the most hated NFL organization? Cowboys. Cowboys. Who's the most hated in the NBA?

You can go on like these are institutions you want to play for and at times Jim bus made some stupid decisions at times I remember when they had Steve Nash and Dwight Howard and all this. I don't know if you know that's of course the lakeers Yeah, so you know Are the Yankees gonna come back and find somebody they probably will Is the audience gonna come back the audience that they lost we? We don't know, there's an audience that's 65 plus that's maybe not gonna convert to YouTube, maybe not gonna convert to Spotify.

You don't know that. Those people are wanting to come home and just go like this. They don't wanna come home and go on YouTube, boom, stream, to the computer, boom. They wanna just be like, go to Fox, go to CNN. To that audience, that audience may be lost. To the audience, that's gonna, can more than go find them like people like us,

we're gonna go find them no matter where the guy goes. But the 65 plus, I don't know if they want to take three steps to go listen to the person. I told you one once. What are you saying the future of Fox looks like at this point? I mean, if they lost their MJ, if they lost their COVID. They can't find somebody. They can listen.

Michael said it, he says, in no players, bigger than the the NBA and he was right. And let me actually think, you know, Murtek is at a point in time where, you know, economically he doesn't need anything. He should hold the guy. Does he really care? So his audience dropped, like you said, he figures out somebody

will come and replace it. This is the cycle. This is how it goes. Yeah, here's the only difference though. This is the only thing where I think is problematic with this versus the NBA. Okay. So in the NBA, what changes? Styles change, you know, like, defend like Frank Volcker was a defensive coach. Let's just say, Dantonie was a what offensive coach. We're going to score 138 points with the Nash Kobe and them. Okay. So anyways, you kind of put these things where styles that play, right? But

in when it comes on to media, when Jerry Springer, who's a former mayor of Cincinnati, is doing this shows a number one show on TV, he says, I want to start talking about serious issues. His producer says, what are you talking about? That's not human. You're supposed to entertain. I want to start talking about serious issues. So for a minute, they allowed them to talk about serious issues. You know what happened to his talking about serious issues. So for a minute, they allow them to talk about serious issues. You know what happened to those viewers? They disappeared. Because the viewers don't want to talk about serious issues.

They want to laugh. They want to like, oh my God, did you see that guy? There's no way this guy got, it's not his baby. They want to see that. They want to see drama, right? Okay. So Fox, with the two new sons, the two sons, not new, they've been around for a minute,

but the two sons, new owners, they've been around for a minute, but the two sons, new owners, if they decide to change philosophically to go get an eyeball, they'll get destroyed. That's a completely different strategy. That's got nothing to do with Tucker Carlson. If you try to, you know, like look at Elon, Elon brings this girl from where that come from. Yeah.

So the audience that was all Elon, all Twitter's now is like, wait a minute, I thought it wasn't about advertising. I thought it was about subscription. Why are you bringing somebody that was a leader, that was sitting on, you know, world economic forum and she said this by BlackRock and she said this about, you know,

NBC, and NBC, and fake news isn't real, it's the younger audience that thinks it's fake because they consume podcasts, the real fake, the people that watch real media, they know it's not real fake news isn't real is the younger audience that thinks it's fake because they consume podcast the real fake the people that watch real media They know it's not real fake news. I mean you bring somebody like that. That's a philosophical hire That some people are confused with right now. How it ends up turning out nobody knows no one knows what's gonna happen with Fox and Tucker We're gonna learn worth in three years who made the right decision Tucker wins great Fox wins great everyone moves on But it's gonna take about two to three years. I also think we should, we'd be remiss if we didn't bring up the number one power player in media who runs Fox. It's not necessarily the

Murdoch's. It's Suzanne Scott, right? What do you think her role is in all this? I know you've studied her a little bit. Yeah, I'm not really familiar. No, Pat. Her role in what? In everything. I mean, she's gotta be a, she's up to the seat of the board. She's the CEO of Fox News. She's not the, I've never come in the board with her. I don't know who she is. All I know is the people I've spoken to

and what they've said about her. She's, you know, she, she, she, based on what I'm hearing, she's not the nicest person to work with. And she's tough to work with. And you know, sometimes how certain people, you know, don't get the eyeballs, but they think the organization is winning because of them. She's exactly the gym of the Chicago Bulls.

Jerry Krause. That's her. She's Jerry Kraus. That's the feeling you get, because she has a Michael that she can't keep happy. Yeah. Okay, so people like that make it tough to, but at the same time, listen, when they were making a promotion apparently they needed somebody to be women, to be in a position like that, and they chose to go with her. Some people told me she's not as good of a leader. They just kind of did it as a publicity stand because of all the meet to movement stuff. There's so many different stories. Look at the end of the day. If she's number one on media, there's a

reason for it, right? This girl that was interviewing what he called it to Trump. Uh, Caitlin, Caitlin Collins, right? Caitlin Collins. Lover, Hayder, guess what? You got a couple of billion views. For the rest of our life, those videos are gonna be shown with her standing next to Trump, a 31-year-old girl. You can say whatever you wanna say about her. I'm not necessarily a fan of hers,

but I think for her, that's gonna stick around forever. Now, did he punk her? Yes. Did he troll her? Yes. Did the audience turn against her? Yes. Did Trump pretty much get everything he wanted added this? Yes, but is a 31 year old still sitting there debating with a president and getting her, you know, score to go up?

Sure She's seen that increase her value that at least doubled what her what she's worth whether people would she was making two million As she's worth four you should make in three, she's a six or not, because it's not this thing works, how many eyeballs do you get, right? No doubt, she agree. Yeah, totally agree. She's totally agree.

We talked about the winners and the losers from the Trump town hall, and we said that Trump was the big winner because he went into enemy territory and held his own and showed that he still has it. CNN, Chris Lick, he's taking a lot of heat, but I think they were big winners from there basically showing that they can, they can host Trump. But I think

at the end of the day, she was a massive winner from all this. She was not a household name prior to this. She was host the morning show. I think she actually, she worked for Tucker and for Fox at one point. And now we're talking about her. So she's clearly the new superstar on CNN. And they just gave her Don Lemons old time slot. So that was she's on an 8 PM. That was announced that they were going to offer her the time slot immediately following the town hall with Trump. There you go. I mean, but by the way, good for CNN. I actually think, I'm telling you, I think Chris Lick is is doing certain things right. I know he's not getting enough credit. I think there's certain things he's doing where he's shown signs of being a capitalist and actually doing his job instead of being

a, you know, a, just succumbing to whatever the wins of Lee was ESG all this of. I think there's certain things Chris has done right. Michael, I got a question for you. So you know how, I mean, Mike's going to be here in a minute, so we'll maybe transition into this topic as well. In every space, there is the power players that you see that you know of on TV, right? And then there's power players, you don't see that the people you think are power players know who the real power player is, right? It's kind of like the movie American gangster,

hey, this guy, it's that guy, now it's really Frank Lucas, right? Is the real power player behind closed? Hey, you know, you look at, it's really, now it's really this guy that's, you know, falling all this stuff from Columbia. Hey, in the mob world, it's really this. Now it's, was there ever a person that the street thought was the power player, but behind closed doors in the mob, the person that really held it all together that everybody feared was XYZ. Was that that person in your world? Yes.

Who was that person? That was Chin, Giganti. Chin was. Yes. Got it. Everybody thought it was Tony Salerno, who was the boss, but it was really Chin. He was the power in all of New York at that time. And you think there are chins in every space?

I think so, yeah, I do. Absolutely. That we don't know about. That we don't know about. You think there's a chin to Murdoch? Well, you know, that's kind of tough. I mean, who's going to tell him what to do? You know, I don't know about that, really.

The older Murdoch. I'm not a young one. Not the young one. No, no. Yeah, you think there's a chin to soros or you think soros is chin? I think soros is chin. But the difference with chin,

chin didn't want anybody to know who he was. Soros is out there. I mean, with this guy does, no, I don't think there's anybody pulling the strings on it. I think he's the guy. Got it. So no one's pulling the soul. Who is the chin of the right? God.

Who's the Soros of the right? That's hard to say, Patrick. Really? Who do you think it is? Who's the, who's the chin of the right? I mean Soros is out there, you know it. You see his impact, he's having on this country. I don't know. If you talk about, from a financial standpoint,

you could argue that the Koch brothers were there before Sheldon Adelson passed away, possibly him. I mean, these guys were given multi-millions if not billions of dollars. Now, this is what I said about Soros yesterday. He said, Soros reminds me of Magneto. Okay. And then Brian responds back.

If you can put show more, because he goes into it pretty and then Elon responds back again. He says fun fact, Magneto's experiences during the Holocaust as a survivor shaped as perspective as well as his depth and empathy. Soros also a Holocaust survivor gets attacked non-stop for his good intentions with some Americans think are bad merely

because they disagree with his political affiliation and look at what Musk responds back with. You assume they are good intentions, they are not. He wants to erode the very fabric of civilization. Soros hates humanity. Anyways, they go back and forth on how he views Soros. I'll be curious to know who the current Soros is on the right. Yeah, but you know, you see the impact of Soros. I think it was 2010 when something happened

in the Supreme Court. He didn't get a good decision. And he publicly stated, he said, it's going to be my mission to destroy america he said it said it publicly and you can see his influence all over the country is he is destroying america he's taking a big part that i don't see that on the right i don't see even the coke brothers okay financially they got but what is their influence what are they doing that you can see that so influential i don't see it

i don't see that on the right but I think on the left you can see it. I think without a doubt, the chin to use an example is by far and away Donald Trump at this point. I mean, he's pulling all the strings on the right. I'm not saying behind the scenes, I'm saying in front of the camera, MAGA making the moves that you don't think that Donald Trump controls the right these days.

No. You don't think so? No, because the DNA of a chin They're never on camera But you say behind the scenes I'll tell you how I learned that's what I think Patrick guy when I was in the gas business I had you know when you're making that kind of money on the street everybody starts looking at you And I had a little trouble with my boss would person person go at the time. And it was kind of known, nothing big, but it was, it was brewing, right?

Well, the chin sends for me. I'd never met him, but he sends for me and I go see him. We're walking on Houston Street, messed up hair, bathroom, exactly like, you know, they portrayed him. And we're walking up and down and he said, you know, I got a respect for your father and somebody introduced me to him that That spoke very well about me and he said I heard you having some trouble with personal and a person was a boss of the Columbus I said well, chin. It's okay

He said if you got a problem he should come over here and you be a captain with me Now I'm saying to myself. That's the boss of a family's talking about and I said well, you know, it's junior He said did you hear what I said? I said, anytime you want, you leave there, you come over here, you're a captain of my family. And the way he said it to me, I said, that's when I realized this guy really is the power. No doubt. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I think every industry has a chin. And I said, I think the best chins don't want you to know who the chin is. The ultimate chin right now in the world is who? Who's the ultimate chin? I actually, if you think about the ultimate chin, and I know this is going to be a hoody tomah de ultimate chin, not the ultimate chin. He's not the ultimate chin I'm about to talk about. But the ultimate way of being a chin today

is the founder of Bitcoin. So I told you, no, come on. Nobody has a clue who he is. But he's pulling the strings. He's a DNA of somebody that you don't know what the, he just kind of dances and things are getting done. He's the last phone call people make. Well, do you see that person on the right?

I speculate a couple names, but I don't see somebody today, and I think, quite frankly, I think that's not really good. I don't think it's really good, because I think the right chin is also able to be a synergist and keep people together, because you think my what Soros is doing. Soros is helping the left. I was gonna say, I wish we had one on the right. I think Soros is helping the left.

I think you saw what happened with Musk yesterday with the story that came out. Did you see the story that came out with Musk yesterday? Right after he hires the NBC Universal lady, Linda, I have a hard time saying her last name. Yucari, no Yucari, sorry, something like that. This report comes out, the documents, subpoena, Jeffrey Epstein's lawsuit by US Virgin Islands, JPMorgan Chase, etc., etc., Tesla, alphabet, all these guys there, you know, the US Virgin Islands has

subpoena, Tesla, CEO of all the documents, on the violence, I mean, Jeffrey Epstein. See, to me now, this, right here, this is when you know you're not Shin. Mosk is not Shin. No, they want to ignore all the names on the left that associate with Epstein, but now immediately to go after the Mosk. Yeah, they want to, I don't know, man, it's those weird phone calls that you get,

the whole weird phone calls you get where they say, hey, just so I have XYZ on you. Okay, I have this on you. Don't forget, we have access to your computer and we know what you watch. We know your search engine. We know what you watch. We know your search engine. We know what you look at on your phone. Remember that one time your phone crashed?

It wasn't that your phone crashed. We got into your phone. We will monitor and everybody been texting with. Everybody been DMing with. All the pictures you've sent, the couple of bread far tapatex you've sent, we have access to all your bread far tapatex. You know, we have these videos, we have them.

And then all of a sudden sudden he's like, what? Yes. Kind of like Jay had Groover tapestap. When the mob you guys went up to him and, hey, here's what we have on you with this cross-stresser. I don't know. I think the left has a chin. I don't think the right has a chin.

And if they do have a chin, we definitely don't know who that chin is. He's not a good one. Well, speaking of the left having a chin, a lot of people firmly, firmly, firmly believe that Barack Obama is running this country. Right? A lot of people think that he's the shadow president right now. Do you disagree?

Do you? I mean, to be honest with you, I wouldn't mind him maybe being in a decision room and Biden making a phone call to him versus Biden just kind of sleepwalking through these decisions. I don't know Would you have a problem with Barack Obama being in the room so to speak? Did you see the Durham report yesterday? Did you see who was in it? Tell me you didn't see the report you didn't see the Another Durham report came out in direction this podcast, But we were here about to talk about some friendly stuff and you decide to take it this direction.

Listen, this is where we do our new Adam. We're supposed to talk about who's the greatest boxer of all time. We're supposed to talk about. He's on his way. I like that. Michael, I think you were going to say something. Well, you see, we came out in the report

that Obama knew what was, he was briefed on everything that was going on in the whole mother investigation. He was briefed. He knew that Hillary Clinton sent that set it up. He knew everything and kept, and lied about it. Well, you know, what's new? They all lie, but I mean, he's lying.

Does this is while he was out of office? No, no, he was in office. No, he was in office. Okay. Yes, he was in office okay yes he was in office let me tell you some Obama the disappointing thing for me about I met Obama on a beach in Hawaii I didn't even know who he was I had seen him at the Democratic convention he gave a brilliant speech crushed it amazing and so I walked up to him you know we were

talking on a beach this was before you know he was thinking about being a candidate nice guys and wow I would have actually, I couldn't vote because I was a felon, but I would have voted for him. That's how inspired I was by that speech. And I said, you know what, this guy has got a chance to really unite this country. A lot of divisiveness here.

First black president, great. He was a total failure in that regard. He divided this country more than anybody up to that point. I believe, you know, I really do. And it was a total disappointment. And look, there were all this so many of them at dishonest, but is he running the party? I don't know about that. I don't know. I mean, I think he's the one who has influence. But I also know from what you hear and for what I was told it, him and a Biden don't get along.

He didn't like Biden. Really? Yeah. He didn't like him. That's where I heard. You know, there's a part of me that kind of based on what Michael just said right now is, if you're Obama, do you want Biden to run again? I don't know.

Let's just say you are running things. You want him to run again? Do you? You want somebody else to run? Yeah, you know, I don't think Obama, even Obama wouldn't want Biden in that. Patrick, this guy, let me ask you a question. In your wildest imagination,

did you ever believe that this country could deteriorate so quickly in two years under anybody? I mean, in my opinion. Well, I mean, listen, the goat was Jimmy Carter, right? And he eclipsed the goat. I never thought that was gonna happen. I'm in America because of the goat, Jimmy Carter. You know, Jimmy Carter, what they did to Iran, Kissinger himself, it was a mess, right?

You know, the whole economic hitman thrown a country, it's people against its ruler, its leader, without there being a real reason the country had advanced the way it has for decades. More freedom for women, you know, they had a say, they had a voice, marriage went from being eight years old, 13 years old, 15 years old, it was more becoming like, you know, an emblem, Carter comes and does what he does there, and then U.S.s.s. and shambles, interest rates, you know, gas prices, oil, and then you thought

nobody was gonna do it worse than him, then shows a guy named Joe, which by the way, if you listen to Joe's talks 20 years ago, 30 years ago, you're like, this guy's funny, he's charming, he's charismatic. I actually like listening to the way he would speak in the 80s, 90s. Now don't get me wrong, of course,

I'm aware of all the speeches that he literally replicated or duplicated exact words that was said by this person or that person or this person from various countries not even in the US, but you're like this guy's actually saying you can represent right today Seeing what's going on with weaponization with the economy with the way things are being handled. It's a little weird It's a little weird. We're gonna see what's gonna happen the way things are being handled. It's a little weird. It's a little weird. We're gonna see what's gonna happen.

For you, are you more at a time like this, you're seeing the Santas coming out with different things he's doing. Rumor has it, he's about to announce that he's gonna be running and announcing in the next, I don't know, week to weeks, three weeks. It's been said, it's been a couple weeks for a minute, but let's just say, in the first week of June

or the last week of May Hill announced, what are your thoughts right now? The Santa's Trump, where are you at with that? Has anything changed? Listen, is what I said, and you know, I gotta, people sometimes knock me because you know, my whole thing, I talk about mob stuff and I mean, Michael, don't get into politics.

And what I try to tell people, this is not politics. These are issues that are affecting your life. The way politicians try to tell people, this is not politics. These are issues that are affecting your life. The way politicians are dealing with it, they're creating these issues. But these are issues that are affecting, you know, our lives are very live. So I try to tell me it's not politics. I'm interested in the future of this country and my kids, my grandchildren, your, this is issues that we need to talk about. So when you look at Biden in that regard, I just can't believe the damage that he's done to this country and continues. And look, if he was a good Democrat, great, he's doing the right thing.

So getting back to Trump and the scientists, I love the scientists. I got to say, I love what he's doing. I love his boldness. I think all his moves were right. And when Trump was in office, I thought his policies were great. His policies. I thought he didn't act presidential in so many ways, getting on Twitter and doing things. I really believe Patrick and forget the conspiracy theories about the, you know, the fraud and the, in the in the the election

if he would have a year before all of this he would have said you know what I'm not going to argue with Nancy Pelosi I'm not going to do this I'm not going to stoop to that level I'm worried about the people in this country I'm going to continue to do the right thing for the country and and get rid of all that other stuff that he did all that pettiness all that divisiveness that's what killed him. I understand he's in New Yorker, he fights back in his defense. I've never seen anybody get attacked like that. Every single day of his life, getting bum, bum, I've never seen anything like it. And you know, to his credit, he stood up to it. He didn't fold, and he didn't go into the pressure, but the way he reacted, it was so divisive and people have had enough.

Even now, you know, the one thing about him on the CNN deal, he acted more present, he tried to stay on the issues. I said, wow, maybe there's, you know, the light went off in his head, maybe starting to realize, forget all of the other nonsense, tell people what they need to hear, what they wanna hear, how you gonna fix what's wrong in this country? Because that's what people are starving to hear. Look, you know, they can say whatever they say, you know, I believe the Southern border. I mean look you gotta be it you gotta be

On drugs not to realize what's going on. He's bringing all these people in here He's gonna hope it's some way he gives them a path to citizenship so they can vote or at least vote. And they wanna be in power forever. That's it, that's it, that's the total plan. They're not humanitarian, they don't care about these people coming in. That's gotta be the plan. And for people not to see that, I don't get it.

I really don't, Patrick. So, you know, Trump to Santa's, okay. If Trump were back in office, his policies would be good. I think he would do the right thing again. I really believe that he cares about this country. I mean, that's what I see in him. Aside from all the other clutter that's around him, he cares about this country. But I don't know if we can take that again.

I don't know if we can take him in office again. So you would rather see the Santas over Trump. You know, because I think the Santas, his policies will be just as good. He'll do the right thing and maybe less stuff that we have to listen to. Unless the right, I mean, the left goes after him in the same way.

I don't know. He doesn't have that kind of baggage, it seems, that he can be attacked like Trump was. But I think Michael brings up a really good point about maybe the difference between Trump and the Santas, you know, a wise man once said choose your enemies wisely. All right. That would be a great book title. Yeah, be a great book title coming out soon.

And I think Trump's problem was, I think Michael's absolutely right. He was attacked viciously by the left. And some of it was warranted. Some of it was unwarranted. Some of it was Trump's reigns syndrome. The problem with Trump is everyone was his enemy. Like, you know how they say, don't punch down, punch up, right?

He would pick a fight with everybody. Like no matter what, he would punch him 10 types harder. And 99% of the time, he should not even respond to somebody's Twitter folks or just any just media outlet anything just don't even give them the time of day But he would and he would engage in these little battles with people that were completely beneath him whereas DeSantis Maybe he had a A little preview of that book that that might be coming out soon Well, I love him choosing his enemies very wisely whether it's Disney whether it's the woke

becoming out soon. And he's choosing his enemies very wisely, whether it's Disney, whether it's the woke, Florida's where woke comes the dye, whether it's the abortion issue, he's picking and choosing his battles. But I love this one response when Trump was banging on him. And somebody said, what do you think about Trump banging on? He says, I'm not a candidate. That was it. But it's just perfect.

Correct. He's, he's, he's living to the fullest. What we're talking about right now. He's like, he knows that it doesn't make sense at this point. Correct. He's he's he's Living to the fullest what we're talking about right now. He's like he knows that doesn't make sense at this point No, just start engaging in a battle with Trump yet at some point He's gonna probably have to step up to the podium to do that if he won't be well Hopefully he'll do it intelligently and he won't get into the the real dirt the way Trump does I mean, that's that's not good for anybody It wears you out. It wears

you out. Was that your biggest problem with Trump? Not the policies. It was just the personality and then going down that rabbit hole of nonsensical stuff. I cannot believe some of the, you know, criticisms that people have about Trump. And I tell him, listen, you know, in a way, President, it is a personality contest. You want to see somebody that's charismatic and has a personality, but it's really about his policies and how he deals with America. And I just tell him, it's not personal. I'm not going to have Trump go out with my daughter.

I don't invite him over for dinner, but his policies were good for America. You know, so what else are you looking at? What do you care about what he did in his personal life? I mean, yeah, you know, now, I mean, you know, CNN, you know, some of the criticism of him, well, he's, you know, he's a sexual abuser and he's this, he's that.

How could you have Montelevich? Well, he's running for president. What do you mean? You know, that's when you realize is CNN really a news organization anymore? Because the people within CNN are knocking at me while they had the highest ratings they had and how long? Why wouldn't you put them on air?

You know who's calling Trump's camp right now, MSNBC saying, Hey, we got an NBC from the top of saying, you guys better not do this. This is not worth it. Don't give them the eyeballs. MSNBC like shit. We need some ratings. Bring that guy. Absolutely.

Allses well. And then you know, it's's probably gonna end up being last, it's gonna be Fox. Fox is gonna be end up being last on a town hall. He's gonna do a town hall with everybody. Look how he works. Look how he works. These are the things that you have to give credit to.

Fox doesn't wanna do a town hall. He says no problem. Who's your number one NMEC? And I'm gonna go do a town hall with them. Then MSNBC, then you're gonna call me and say, while we're not doing a town hall, because all the Fox viewers are gonna ask you, how come you're not doing a town hall? Your fans, your viewers who pay the money are gonna force you to do a town hall and it's gonna be on my term. So I'll be patient in the next six months you'll host a

town hall for me except it's gonna be on my terms. This is the kind of stuff that you want a guy like that that's negotiating with Putin, with G, with Zelensky, with this, with that, you want that. You don't want somebody that's going and saying, who's ice cream is better, Russia or China. You want somebody that's wanting to really figure out ways to use power place. The world you're in, one of the things, when the first time you and I sat down, you had written a book and make you an offer, I can't remember. I can't remember if you can't, one of the things, when the first time you and I sat down, you had written a book and make you an offer, I can't remember.

I can't remember if you can't, first of all, it's every business man. We're not here to promote his book. Trust me, that's not the reason for why it's here. This is just a thing, if you run a business and you run in a company, just on the side, put the link below, do yourself a favor, go buy this book.

I think after the, when I, we talked about it, we saw like a hundred thousand copies. I don't know what happened. Put the link below. I'm telling you, if you're in business, go read this book. I think it's only 140 pages, 150 pages. If you go to the bottom, how many pages is it?

It's the most use, it's the best use, 155 pages. Do yourself a favor. In the business world, take all the stuff that you guys did illegally, all the other stuff. Take the murder, take that out. Man, there's a lot of the stuff that you talk about in this book, is stuff that you gotta have if you're gonna run for office.

The game's in ship that the enemy's gonna use against you. The manipulation the opponent's gonna use against you. How do you deal with that? How do you against you. How do you deal with that? How do you manage that? How do you work with that? How do you still go out and get a deal? How do you negotiate? How do you not go in a room without any kind of leverage

to negotiate and still find a leverage? How do you go in when you have all the leverage in the world and you can destroy the person and figure out a way to make them an ally? How do you, there's so many different things there to use. I think that's the part that you can't teach somebody to do and it seems like he's got a bit of it So if if he does get reelected man, it's gonna be well America's gonna lose their minds if he gets reelected Patrick, let's let's get to something that's to me the most serious issue that we're facing right now. This whole investigation with him and his family.

With, with, like buying and hunter buy. Yes. Yeah. Let me tell you something. I had 18 LLCs, Panamanian companies, 18 of them. All of them, none of them had a business. We're just a company that I needed to open up a bank account. That was it. Okay. We're washing my shell companies.

Okay, I am telling you, this is a racketeering indictment waiting to happen. There's no question about it. There's no, there's no function to any one of these companies. He's fumbling money through different. The same way I did it. 100%. Exactly the way I did it. And with me, I'm just taking money from the government. All right. tax money okay i want to jail for that but this guy is influence pedaling to do what else could it be padrick more people open their eyes and just look at it what else can it be

reporters have the nerve to say what we can't track any money that went directly to biden so what so what did it didn't go to him it went to his family even if he didn't get a penny it went to his family he did it for to to benefit the Biden family this is and then you know i'm saying to him people have brought this out you know we got a chinese balloon flying over the country taking all these surveillance you know classified information that we have this guy's backing down every which way

i mean this is dangerous stuff for America. Yeah, you know what's going to happen, Michael, this is what I think is going to happen. I think they're going to protect them. On the shield, he is no longer needed. Then he will be a useful idiot. And then they'll destroy him. And they'll all turn on him. And they'll all tell the stories about how bad he was and what he did. They'll, they'll, they'll do to him what they did to Andrew Cuomo.

That's how quickly they'll flip on the guy once they cannot use him anymore because right now you know they don't want him to run. And he's being on the Stephanie Rulerser name, is that her name? Stephanie Rulerser, of course. You know, America doesn't want you to run. In other words, like there's no Fortune 5 on a company right now that's trying to recruit a CEO that's 82 years old, that's going to be 86 at the end of their terms. What makes you think you're qualified to do this?

Experience. This, that's right. Watch me. So, but the point is, Democrats don't want this guy. So if he goes against Democrats and he still runs, the moment they're able to get rid of them, whatever way they do, they're going to turn on him like this in no time. He's not Bill Clinton. They'll turn on in in no time. And they'll then share

the stories of, yeah, well, you know, all these investigations, nobody knew them. All of a sudden the truth came out and it was, you know, somebody like this and, you know, something they did to Cuomo. Andrew Cuomo was supposed to be the next president at one point. Yeah. Everybody in America is like, yeah, he looks more presidential than Donald Trump does. Look at the way he does his meetings every day in New York. And in the next thing, no, he doesn't want to negotiate and work with us. Throw him under the bus to replace him. Very quickly.

Like this, it happened. But Patrick, how far has America sunk when you have a president that basically might have sold out the country and people are protecting him from that. The news media is protecting him from that. You know, where do you draw the line and say, wait a second, you know, I live here. I have kids here. This is my home. This guy is selling secrets to the foreign government, you know, we're influenced peddling.

One do you draw the line? Has America, look, you look at every major, major power throughout history. Why would they destroy it? Immorality, finances, and the military going to hell. And things are happening like that in this country. You know, with these great powers, they always crumble from within first. You know, and I just can't understand

look, I was a mob guy, okay? I was on the street. I don't know guys on the street that would do what this guy is doing and what the left is doing. I don't get it. You know, what are they trying to accomplish? Is it all, I say, well, you know, I get it. It's all about money and power. They want to stay in power. Okay, but you want to destroy the country while you're staying in power? What power are you going to have at that point? I don't know. I mean, in my lifetime, I never thought

I'd ever see a situation like we have right now. Look, FBI always knew they were corrupt. But what you see in now, we saw in the Mueller report, you know, how they went along with all of this, how they instigated, how they covered things up. I always knew that, but people would say, oh, you guys are criminals on the street. Okay, all right, so they pushed the envelope with us.

Okay, you know, maybe you can justify it, even though I say this, whenever you give the government power and allow them to break the law in order to get the law break, it's gonna turn on you at some day, and that's exactly what's happening. Okay exactly what's happening. But I never thought I would see it deteriorate to this degree. I mean we're in a lot of trouble. I'm a very optimistic guy. My wife gets crazy at me. God don't worry about it. No problem. We'll fix it. Everything's okay. I'm pessimistic about the direction of America. I don't know if we can be fixed at this point. Other than the real or the real Michael, what do you think the biggest issues are facing the country right now?

If what you're saying is true that you've never seen the country like this and Biden's doing the worst job you've ever seen, the border clearly amassed, right? Well, title 42 just expired as a yeah, what else would you put in that in the top of the list these days? Listen, I don't think this is a racist country. I think they're trying to divide us in a way that I've never seen before. This is not a racist country, not at all. You know, not at all. Huge problem. The divisiveness in the country.

And you know, it starts from the top and it trickles down. And that's all you hear. This inclusiveness, listen, you want the best people in office, you don't want people in office because there are different race, the religion, the creed, or background. You want the best people there to do the job. And now, I mean, because of inclusiveness,

they're trying to make, you know, America looked like the League of Nations. Okay, we agree with that. You can, Patrick, you know this. You can succeed in this country no matter what. All right, maybe some people have a little, you know, they came up the different way. They didn't have the advantages.

They didn't have, you know, the advantages that some of the people have, but you can still overcome that in America. This is a great country, great country. But what they're doing here, and it's all about money and power. They want to stay in power. That's why I think I can't think of any other reason why he has opened up the Southern border

like this. When they try to get them the ability to vote, what are they going to tell them? Hey, you vote for Republicans. They're sending you out of here. You got to stay with us. That's it. If Texas turns blue, you'll never see another Republican in office.

Never. If Texas turns blue, you'll never see another Republican in office. You got Florida. I mean, you got New York. You got Texas. You got California. Yeah, from an elected or a college standpoint,

it's going to be very hard to win if you don't have Texas. And that's what they're trying to do. And they keep saying that you're keeping a slow drip where, you know, they keep saying, you're keep seeing a slow drip where they keep saying, this is the year that Texas is turning blue. This is the year the Texas is turning blue. But I still think there's a five point margin of victory,

but it used to be double digits. And I think you're absolutely right. You lose Texas, then you never know what will happen in these elections. I want to tell you this, I know we're jumping around. You lose Texas, then you never know what will happen in these elections. I won't tell you this, you know what, I know we're jumping around, but if this were anybody at this table or anybody else that we're doing when Hunter Biden, we would have been jailed

a long time ago. It would have been over. Done. The evidence is there. It's like the Republican said the other day, I'm giving you this case on a silver platter. It's all here. You don't have to do anything. We did it for you. They still don't want to touch it. This is bad stuff.

But so you know, you know what that does, though, remember this scene where, because you'd be in jail, you know, which line I'm talking about, because you'd be in jail, you know, Trump and Hillary are so great that a man like you is not in the office because you'd be in jail. Okay, so a lot of people were thinking when he does get elected, that's gonna happen. Hillary's gonna be held accountable, didn't happen.

And he didn't drain the swamp. That's a bit of a criticism that he gets from some of the people that actually supported the guy. But the next person that gets elected, one of the things is, hey, we're going to go in, we're actually going to drain the swamp, we're going to find out who's behind this, and we're going to investigate it. Okay. So then there's going to come a moment where that person's close and everyone knows that

guy's going to be a president, and he's going to get a phone call. And he's going to say, you, as as a sitting president cannot undermine the previous president, especially investigate him. It's going to be a very bad look for you to get reelected. Then they're going to somehow, some way create other boogie man in, you know, so forget about the real investigation and then four years going to go by and then never happen. So what are the chances that FBI will eventually investigate these guys? They never seem to hold anybody accountable on the left. I mean nobody falls down for anything. I mean look, Hillary Clinton smashes her computer. I mean look, I can't tell you, you know, I've had experience with this, you know, I had records missing and they wanted to hang me for it, you know, if they could have. records missing and they wanted to hang me for it, if they could of.

You're smashing up your phones, your computers that have information on it that can be harmful to nothing happens. I mean, maybe she was pissed at Bill Clinton. Maybe Bill Clinton sent a text and, you know, and Bill did something in that computer. You know, what's her excuse going to be for destroying the computer?

I mean, actually think about it, right? Can you imagine the average person is like, so why'd you shatter the computer? You know what, it fell out of my hands, okay? What else could it be? I was just upset at Bill because Bill did this. The average person is gonna sit there and say, what were you hiding in that thing?

Okay, and should the American people know or know? Who knows? Anyways, that's why we bring our political analysts to great Mike Tyson in the house. I'm just gonna give a gang in here, Mike. Oh, I, buddy. Good. I'm in this place.

Mike, you look great. Come on in. Sir. I should go. I don't know, Mike. I don't know if you want to pull up your chin. Yes, sir. I'm gonna run in. Sir. I don't even want to pull up your chin. Sir. After you, Mr. Tyson. Mike, if you feel like knocking anybody out of the guy in the green shirt,

you can all love to see him. We're allies, I don't have to worry. You're safe. You're safe. So, how was Cardio? He was making me, you know, this and this. Yeah, it's good. Yeah.

Great. So we've been talking a lot of different things, but the idea of you guys teaming up to do something sounds very exciting. The project you guys have going on is exciting to see, it's called what Champions Corner. Yes, yes, yes. You wanna kinda tell the audience a little bit about it? Well, pretty much it's gonna be about,

as you know, people that experience life, like me and Mike, and we're talking about pretty much mentorships and what mentorship meant to us, and what it's gonna mean to our future. Without mentorship pretty much you're going to be finished. You're not going to be of any kind of use. Without mentorship, me, myself. If I describe myself, I would describe myself as just the worth of the worst. Yes, at the bottom of the bat had no idea, had no intentions of having a healthy, good future.

And then I met this old Italian man, they cost their motto. And he changed my whole way of thinking. And if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be here talking to you guys. He made me believe that was the greatest that was left. Mike, who else was it outside of him? Did you have a couple men like that in your life that played a big role? Hey, nobody plays the bigger role in it. Wow. No. Differenti what was it outside of him? Did you have a couple men like that in your life that played a big role? Hey, nobody played the bigger role, didn't it?

Wow. No. Differentiator, it's not even close. No, not even a fuck. Oh, please, close. They're not in the same race. Wow. You're done with, you're just on the field by themselves.

One of my favorite things we talked about last time was about your relationship with CUS. And the two of you, the reason why I'm excited about this project you guys have is because the background to go from there, you know, and to experience what you've experienced in your life, both of you, both of you are also New York, so it doesn't get rougher than the streets you guys came up

to be where you are today. Mike, how important of a role does a man, a strong man play in a boy's life when he's trying to find himself? Well, you know, you have to think about what perception of a strong man. He could be a strong man and a criminal as perspective and an illegal perspective. And that could be the strongest identity that he sees. And so he can go off in that level of crime as well, but it's all about um, and when I say that, even these people in crime, they're great men. I won't say they're all good men, but they're great men. And so, um, if we could really concentrate on doing the best we can from our

perspective of being a good man and transform that into other children, other young boys, that will be a start. Michael, you're seeing right now messages on YouTube go viral where it's grown man, like Jordan Peterson talk about what it is to be a man, or even Andrew Tates talking to young boys, there seems to be a, you know, in every industry, there's a sect of that industry does very well, like, hey, in books, young nonfiction is doing really well right now. Really youth, nonfiction, yes, kids wanna know more.

Oh, okay, interesting, you know, in the denomination of religion, hey, the LDS church is growing at the space right now. Really, why, what are they doing? Hey, when it comes down to content being created right now, young boys want to learn from a man with experience. Maybe they didn't have a father figure growing up. Why do you think that content is resonating

the way it is with young boys? Because of the fact that there's an effort to demean what a real man is today. I see it that way anyhow. And when people look up to a guy that presents himself like a man, then it's attractive to them. You know, look, one of the reasons Patrick, I go into prison as I talk to these young gang bangers, you know, and they'll say to me, come on, Michael, you had the great cars, you

had the women, you know, you wore the right clothing, to them that's what a man looks like. So they want the image of a man, you know, a manhood. But you know, the problem is a lot of people today think that when you're telling a man how to be a man, that it's demeaning to a woman, they've made that a part of society now. Well, if you're telling this guy to be a man,

that means he's a good demean woman. And I say, no, a real man is gonna benefit women. Women are gonna benefit by that because he's gonna treat her the right way. He's going to bring up his kids properly. He's going to be in the community, do the right thing. That's what a man is. It's not being a macho guy or anything like that.

Of course, you've got to defend yourself. Man protects his women, of course. But the idea of a man has been changed today. It really has. And that's what we want to teach guys, oh look, a man can be sensitive. A man can have a motion. You know, there's nothing wrong with that.

You know, many times, look, I want to, the most powerful guys you want to see, I see him crying at a funeral. They go to a show and they got tears in the eyes on an opera show. I've seen that. It's not the wrong with that, it's showing emotion. You know, you know, and I think these young guys today are really looking for that. You know, and they look, they look at somebody

like Mike who, let me tell you something, you know, the way he came up and to be where he is today, it's a miracle. It really is. You know, under the odds that he had to face in that way. You know, mine is different. I didn't go through the some of the things that he went, it was different for me. But, you know, the fact that I'm here, you know this Patrick, I should be dead or in prison a long time ago,

it's just been very fortunate. You know, so we wanna use these experiences to try to help people. And that's what this is all about. And we're gonna do it. I fully agree with what Michael's saying is that there's just such a need for leadership, for young men these days.

I guess my question is, it's not a zero sum game. Like for ever we've heard that it's the patriarchy and that's basically has given rise to modern day feminism and then you see things like the future is female, what's like, what is that, if the future is female, what does that mean for men, right? And then you see things like the feminism and the boss babe movement and everything with that. It's men and women can both win, right? I think women want a strong man in their life and men want a, you know, what's the famous phrase behind every great man, there's a strong woman. So how can men and women win in today's society? What do you get to say?

Well listen, that's gonna be pretty difficult. Because when you watch television, you see, it could be black, it could be white, but it's confrontation between man and woman. So you see on television, that's what you see on Housewives Show. That's just what you see. You see this on Kevin family show you see this on some time with the other guy and to take it just confrontation Confentation sells and when I got to stop this conversation This is going to be coming ever so we can continue to make money off of people's pain

So whether it's Republicans a Democrats whether it's blacks and whites whether it's men and Democrats, whether it's blacks and whites, whether it's men and women, it's just going to constantly be doubling down on this against each other. If you want to see the future of a country, look at his advertisement. What does it advertise? Damn. You know what that makes me think of, right? So true. But how were the only countries that you just so true?

You just made two profound comments in the last minute. What about, you know, how United States and I think New Zealand are the only countries that big farmers allowed to advertise on. So when you see the opioid endemic that's going on right now, I think Mike Tyson makes up a great point. It's that if you want to see the future of a country, look at the advertising. How many people are on drugs? Families now, look at the mixed family before.

But taboo is to make the black or Italian, the black Asian Spanish. That was taboo, you think. But now it's promoting. This is what it's going to be because you see the influx of different immigrants coming in the country and that's in a show. And this is what it's going to look at. And they're preparing us. They put in the televisions or movies, you know, and that's what we're preparing for because people know the society knows that run the place

American black white agent. They don't take kindly to immigrants. We just don't I don't know why because when the Irish was here Like in the 1800s and when Irish came they were called real Americans But when the Irish came from Ireland they crushed them They made them the enemy. How could you do that? I mean if I came out they made these guys the enemy But they could take advantage of them and rob them. So they made these guys, you know, not having any feelings So much to someone like slaves. Yeah We're having a nature. What other advertisements you see on TV that are shocking to you Like that's a profound statement you said if you want to see a future for country look at the advertising What other advertisements do you see on TV that are shocking to you?

Like that's a profound statement you said if you want to see a future for country look at the advertising what else do you see on TV? Well, something that rather than that talk about okay, you know that I guess you know, it's just interesting you know It's just what it is I guess My kids they go to private or public I have one kid that goes to public heritage here and I have won this online school. He was on school. Yeah, he was online. Yeah, what's your thoughts in public versus private? And public school, you get the diversity.

You get everything coming at you. The good, the bad, the bullies, the tough guys, the geeks. It's all just coming at you. And you have an opportunity to choose what you're going to do. And a private school, everybody's in the same line. Every day is the same way. Nobody gets off defense. We lost the underoffensive private school.

And then, publicly unoffensive, you get off defense and you make mistakes. Most of the private school, they prevent them the best way possible. They want to make mistakes, but the best way possible, they prevent them from making mistakes and being discouraged. Who would Mike Tyson have been if he went to private school? Mike Tyson? Yeah, who would have been if he went to private school? Mike Tyson?

Yeah, who would he have been if he would gone to private school? I don't know. Not what I am now. Not what you're now. Yeah, it wasn't meant for me. I probably would have been the case? I got a little bit of stuff in me. I think he brings up a really, I think he brings up an amazing point, because I went to public school K through 10, my last couple years I got a scholarship, a sports scholarship to go to private school, but I think it was the public school mentality the bullies that Don't hang out with that guy watch your back over here that really shapes you who you are Exactly, so I know that you're a huge advocate for private school, but you're a public school kid 1.8 GPA What obviously there's so many benefits going to private school the network the status the Everything with that what are the concerns you have with private school though,

when you hear someone like Mike Tyson say, yeah, it wouldn't make me the man I am today. I've never gone to private, I've gone to public, right? So to me, when you go to public, you see everything. You see gangs, drugs, cocaine, pot, you know, the nerves, the athletes, the, you know, these guys, those guys, the valedictorian, you see it all. There's an advantage to it as well.

But my concern is, I'm 44 today, so I went to school with... Today, you birthday? No, no, I'm 44 years old. But I... Could you imagine? Your birthday's next month, or I'd June 23rd? 30th, yeah. 30th.

So I'm a October 18th baby, 1978. So... Scoppy about that. I'm a leafy leafy leafy. I'm a... You're cancer right yeah I'm cancers are beast so So 1996 is when I graduated this was the whole two-pock, you know The only like the devastating day for me was that day We're in LA. I'm going to glendal high school, but

When I was going to high school versus what I'm seeing today It's not the same like my my high school today a I'm seeing today is not the same. Like my high school today, a bunch of people from Glendale Unified School District have message. They've created an Instagram account of what's going on right now, G-U-S-T. Okay, how they're letting boys go into girls bathroom and all this other stuff. It's not the public school we went to. There was none of that when I was- If you wanted to go to the bathroom, I got suspended. Yes, that's what happened. I got suspended. Yes

Which by the way, should you be suspended I think so yeah No, sexual gravitation I was too young going in at a fight the girl What you hit me in a faith or something ran in the bathroom. Yeah, Mike said when he was, when he was younger, girls bullied him. I've got it. Yeah. Kick my ass. Oh, shit.

It's because they liked you, Mike. I bet. But your kids being in private school today. Well, I mean, again, for me, like, if I'm going to go on Champions Corner and I want to learn, you know what I want to learn? I want to learn from their mistakes, their wisdom, their parents now, they have, they have the ability to go from

teens to 20s to 30s to 40s to 50s. There's different desires and temptations and things that you go through in every age. I want to learn from it. By the way, how many people, like, if you look at Mike Tyson's life, okay? How many people's combined life look at Mike Tyson's life, okay? How many people's combined life experience equals Mike Tyson's? Hey, no, but listen, I'm just like you. You

don't think I'm scared of those public schools for my kids, because I experienced that stuff. You don't think I want somebody to do some lie-ass in my kid's face? No, but if they didn't have that opportunity, I went through the being public school. You know, we were struggling for the money to, no, we went through the going experience there. You have to experience, I wanted my kids to experience where I lived there. We wanted to take them to Brownfield, Brooklyn,

let me pizza. You know, let them go to the gather. This guy is your father. I remember that little kid with his father. And you did that. Oh, absolutely. What was the reaction when they saw it? Scared to death.

Then when I get involved with someone, it was a apartment, it could then, with a hole in the door. I said, I got a peep in there, so he didn't know, I'm not peep in there. And I said, look at this man, this is a concrete jungle, concrete jungle and these guys are, um, wow, these guys are animals to sky the human beings. And that's just what it is.