PBD Podcast - Michelle Obama for President, Elon Musk's Alleged Drug Abuse | PBD Podcast | Ep. 347

Starting point is 00:00:00 I know this life's been for me. Yeah, why would you bet on Goliath when we got that David? Value payment, giving values, contagiousness, world, entrepreneur, as we can't no value the hated. I'd be running home and you look what've become. I'm the under one. Okay, episode 347, we haven't done an episode since last Thursday or Friday. It's been a long time. It feels like it's been a couple of months. Feels like we made it.

Starting point is 00:00:38 Maybe because we're trying to eventually get to a point to see if we can do this thing before five times a week. Who knows? Maybe that day one day will come in 2024. I want on a shirt and tie. So I have a dream. So we got a lot of stories, a lot of crazy stories. A lot of people claim in that musk is God drug issues that's going on. We'll talk about that. And he's responding to a Boeing. What is going on with this Boeing plane? Everybody sitting there saying, I thought the exit seat was the best one. The extra leg room. I got to worry about it.

Starting point is 00:01:07 You can imagine everybody around the nation is not worried about the exit seat. By the way, the craziest thing with this boy situation is they haven't been following the FAA guideline for quality control for the longest time. And eventually whistleblowers at Boeing told others that Boeing doesn't do the FAA quality control guidelines. Did you know this? That's pretty great. So they lost 13 billion dollars just yesterday. That's what happens when you do something like that.

Starting point is 00:01:35 And we got a clip from Josh Hawley, going after FBI director Ray. It's awesome. You got to see it. We got another clip with the door on the plane going. We got a couple Haley clips. Going after FBI director Ray, it's awesome. You gotta see it. We got another clip with the door on the plane going. We got a couple Haley clips. Haley is very popular right now.

Starting point is 00:01:51 And on her views on parents and then her views on a pardoning Hunter Biden. You know, it's an interesting way she answered it. And you got a clip that you want to show from our friend and then Jewish folks underground New York. Very interesting what they're doing in New York. Adam, you have to answer for your people there. Underground parties. Aside from that,

Starting point is 00:02:11 offices around America hit a new vacancy record. New vacancy record. Barely third of Americans expect economic improvement 2024. Lulu Lemon hits back. Chip also, you know, we this guy, seven, eight years ago, freaking phenomenal guy. Do you know this guy, seven, eight years ago, freaking phenomenal guy. Do you know this guy, the CEO of Lululemon, it's worth nearly five, six billion dollars.

Starting point is 00:02:29 Do you know he would go to work on a daily basis and a speedo? That's it. And he would walk around, literally, this is a true story in a speedo stud of a guy. He was a former summer. We'll talk about him. Okay. I can't wait. Remind me to bring up American peril.

Starting point is 00:02:44 Yeah. When can't wait. Remind me to bring up American peril. Yeah. When we do that. So then Biden, apparently according to JP Morgan, they're predicting Biden will pull out of the presidential race. This is not Fox News. This is not CNN. This is not a podcast saying it.

Starting point is 00:02:56 This is JP Morgan predicting that Biden is going to pull out the race. It doesn't get bigger than JP Morgan. $7 trillion nearly of money circulates through JP Morgan on a daily basis. You have Supreme Court to hear Donald Trump's ballot ban will talk about that. MSNBC host gets emotional folks. If you haven't seen it, get some of the tissue ready for you because it's, it's, it's, you're not going to show it because I, I don't think I could deal with it.

Starting point is 00:03:19 It's, it's worse than, you know, I'm trying to think about like most emotional moments of movies, notebook, you know, it's more emotional. Like when Gladiator, when he, when Max and Mrs. C's wife, it's like, is there worse than it's bad? Bambi, it's like Bambi, you know, type of emotional. We do that, just skip that part of it. It's not good for you. It's like the funny part at the end of Full Metal Jack.

Starting point is 00:03:37 Democrats question whether Biden should agree to debate Trump, watch Doc, watch this one, folks, finds 81% of all political late night show jokes in 2023 Targeted conservatives anyone surprised weird many college grants Struggle to land jobs due to lack of preparedness by the way kids are shown up after college they got their four-year degree They're shown up to job interviews with their parents. Can you imagine this not? Larry who are these people? Hello, my mom and dad. Hello, Ms. David.

Starting point is 00:04:08 Yeah, so how do you, how good are you going to take care of my boy? How do you, my little Joey? How are you going to do it? You're going to be a little bad. Well, we all know that's how I got this job. My mom showed up. She's like, list, Mr. Bed David. He's a good boy.

Starting point is 00:04:20 I was, truth be told, his mom did show up. But that was, that was an absolute, it was not hired. Kind of like, when she used to drop you off for summer. And then my dad showed up. Tom, the biz doc mom did show up, but that was not happening. It was like, I can't like, 20 years to drop you off for some reason. And then my dad showed up. Tom the bizzot, Elizabeth, my step that over here. By the way, next to put in a good hat from Mac. Mac Huffie stood up to ESPN and flat out called them out. Good for you.

Starting point is 00:04:37 Because the week prior to that, he got shot for apologizing. So the week later, he named names. Bill Bella check and an England Patriots are about to get divorced. Will they will see Tiger Woods ends a 27 year partnership with Nike. Count of wild. We'll talk about that. Joe Koi. I don't know if you watched the monologue. I know Joe Koi. Did you watch the monologue? I'd be 100 would you? No, I did not. I was working. So if you know Joe Koi, and I'm very well, I know Joe Koi, it's the worst monologue I've ever heard.

Starting point is 00:05:05 Let me say that. It was so bad that I have to go watch Ricky Jervais just for me, equilibrium for me to be leveled off. You said that's the clip. It was terrible. Not only the Taylor Swift, not find it funny. I don't think anybody found it funny. Oh man.

Starting point is 00:05:17 But it is what it is. And Ricky's monologue could have been done this year. Yeah. The Santis, is he going to drop out of the race on January 15th? A lot of people are saying this. This is the hill by the way. And the hill likes the Santis, some of those guys there. And then we have AOC gives away the game on America, Southern border crisis in a video. And then we got Michelle Obama that a podcast with Mr. J. Shetty.

Starting point is 00:05:41 And she claims she is terrified. Oh, no, about not the movie FNAF or it or leave the world behind. Silence of the lambs or leave the, but she's terrified. Oh no, about the 2024 election. Oh, Vinnie. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. Exactly. When Pat does that voice, I just get intimidated.

Starting point is 00:06:01 I do, I'm so nervous. Yeah, by the way, before we get started, yesterday we had to sick a strategy session. We were away for the last two days. We stayed in Miami. We had a meeting at the one hotel. We had a 14 hour meeting yesterday. Absolutely freaking insane phone set aside. I am so excited about the future.

Starting point is 00:06:20 By the way, just last week when we announced the future looks bright, initiative with the hats. I don't know how many thousands of hats were picked up last week. Some of them are going to be on back order. We're getting some new ones here. The entire premise of this year, I want everybody to confuse the living cramp out of everybody in your life to support the future looks bright here when you go to work, when you go to your family, they say, how are you so optimistic? I'm telling you, the future looks bright gear when you go to work when you go to your family they say he has cre how are you so optimistic I'm telling you the future looks bright you're gonna see why because there's gonna be a certain waking up of certain leaders in in America and the world we've

Starting point is 00:06:54 never seen before there's a whole initiative on what we're gonna be doing with that brand with the future looks bright being all over the place I'm excited about that but anyways before we get into the podcast with all these stories, let's first go to our sponsors. Go ahead, Rob. So, look, I've been the financial industry since 9-11, the day before 9-11, and I've owned stocks, bonds, mutual funds, real estate, crypto, gold. You name it, I've owned it.

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Starting point is 00:08:14 is from Michigan. My family is from Detroit. I'm ever growing up. 1997 Charles Woodson. Everything was going on there. This has been a long time coming. Everything, all the the disarray that was going on with Jim Harboh this year and the allegations. 15 and a, they beat Ohio State this year. They beat Alabama. They beat the back in the pack 12 championship Washington. Tom Brady, our boy, Tom Brady's very happy right now. So it was Dave Portney by the way, but shout out to Michigan Wolverines college. It was, it was great seeing that. It was very good seeing that. Okay. So let's get right into the stories. Okay. Let's start off with a little bit of economy. Offices around America hit a new vacancy record according to Wall Street Journal.

Starting point is 00:08:56 And this number is not a number that's something to be bragging about. Here we go. Office vacancies and major US cities have searched to record high with 19.6% of office space unleased in the Ford quarter up from 18.8 from previous year. This marks the highest vacancy rate since 1979. That's 44 years ago. Yeah, 44 years ago, 45 years ago. According to Moody's analytics, the overbuilding trend in the 80s and the early 90s resulted in a glut of office buildings. Many of which were constructed in the 50s and the 50s through the 80s, currently the three major U.S. cities.

Starting point is 00:09:33 What the highest vacancy rate are Houston, Dallas, Austin. This is all Texas all the way. All Texas shifting work habits including the move towards working open floor plans and remote work have contributed to the rise in office vacancies. The COVID-19 pandemic accelerated the shift leading companies to realize they need less space per employee time. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, look at this. Well, first of all, 19.6 is a national average. And so you need to step back from that.

Starting point is 00:10:05 Like here in Miami, I think the office vacancy rate in Miami is under 6% right now. It's very low. A lot of companies and people have moved down here. So if you're in commercial real estate in Miami, you probably, the issue you got is probably finding homes for your clients. Texas, the issue, I know for fact, is overbuilding.

Starting point is 00:10:25 They didn't think they were overbuilding because no private equity company or a large community bank is gonna say, okay, here's a billion dollars to build this massive office, parking garage, everything goes with it, and have no one there. They just got caught out by the amount of inventory they built, which means if you're thinking of moving to Texas

Starting point is 00:10:42 where there's no state income tax and there's a lot of the lifestyle things, guess what, you probably get a very cost-effective building for your team there. But the other side of it is San Francisco, which is horribly vacant. So when you see these averages, folks, always remember, these are national averages,

Starting point is 00:11:02 and what is the reality that for you as a business, is whatever the reality is in the town where you are or you're trying to do it. And San Francisco, everything's vacant. Miami, everything's full. And- Here's the question, Tom. Beautiful.

Starting point is 00:11:17 The building's in Texas if you're moving there. Here's a question. Is this a permanent thing? Is this a seasonal thing? Is this something that's gonna change? What will change it? Are we at a point where a lot of these guys are starting to realize, look,

Starting point is 00:11:32 maybe the real answer is the following time. 20% of America's overbuilt with office buildings for current population size that we have. Is that the right way of looking at it? Meaning at 350 million people in America, 20% of office buildings are too much, one too many, which means the next time we're gonna need this much office space, maybe we'll be

Starting point is 00:11:57 when that 350 becomes 420. So Rob, can you see if there's a map to say when will US population hit 420 million? But the opposite argument to that may be by the time we get to 420 million, we're gonna have such great technology in AI that that 20% may go to 30%, may go to 40%, what are you think is gonna be happening? So I think they've built the wrong the wrong stuff. Right now we've got too much commercial space on a national basis, and especially in

Starting point is 00:12:25 Texas, and we don't have enough like apartments, condos, and things that people could rent. And so I look at it and the question I ask, and I'm not going to plug anybody, but there are venture capitalists out there, and there are startups out there that are converting two and three floors at a time of an office building into basically studio plus apartments. They get a bathroom in there, they get a kitchenette in there, and suddenly for 1500 bucks, a person with a job downtown has everything they need.

Starting point is 00:12:58 So a lot of that space needs to be repurposed and the venture capital community and a lot of startups are out there saying, hey, give me three floors of this building. I will, you lease it to me. I will convert it to, you know, 20 efficiency apartments per floor and they're really nice apartments.

Starting point is 00:13:15 I toured one, I didn't invest, but I got involved in I, with a startup that's in the Dallas area and they pulled it off. And they got three floors of an office building down there that is now like 60 apartments. Very interesting. So office and apartment combined. I mean they got some of the buildings here like we were we were going to buy those buildings on the water on the intercostal remember what they told us they set some 60% has to be office 40% has to be 10. Exactly right. Yeah. It's similar. Now not everybody stays at the four

Starting point is 00:13:43 season but if you've ever driven by or seen some of the four seasons, a lot of times in major cities, the top five floor of the four seasons are residences. And it'll say that. That's the four season residences up here, or Mandarin residences. That is an example of the hotel people, half of its hotel, and then half of it,

Starting point is 00:14:01 and then one third of it to me. Two thirds of the hotel and one third is permanent. So, BVD, you asked the question, is this just season role, is this sort of temporary? Let me tell you something. This ain't going, this ain't changing. The game has changed dramatically. What do I mean?

Starting point is 00:14:15 Well, just like Uber did to the car industry, just like Airbnb did to the hotel industry, just like Bitcoin did to just normal financial products, and fungible tokens and all that fun stuff. just like Bitcoin did to just normal financial products and fungible tokens and all that fun stuff. Just like podcasts did to media. Same things going on here with commercial real estate. Tom hit the nail on the head.

Starting point is 00:14:34 Dan Wright did. You know it, but I hit it. We supply and demand. We've got too much office space and not enough homes. So what do we mean? We all see what happened during COVID. We started using using acronyms like WFA work from anywhere WFH work from home. COVID basically was the catalyst to what was already going to happen. People were already working remote. These things were already

Starting point is 00:14:55 occurring and then boom COVID zoom meetings just smack you right in the face. Next thing you know you're working you got your you know your mullet outfit going on, you got, you know, business up top, party down below you and your boxer briefs down there. And if you're tubing your masterbie, exactly. Oh baby. Oh, go ahead. But, you know, what's happening in Tom's sort of alluded to it, you're going to have these basically work where you live, type buildings where people are having less kids.

Starting point is 00:15:25 We know that. You don't need to be running around to the office anymore. There's this hybrid work things. We obviously know that you're a big advocate of getting your ass in the office. So am I, but most companies are totally cool with your working remote, especially if you can find the best talent.

Starting point is 00:15:40 But it comes down to supply and demand. There's not enough homes out there. People want to work from home. There's way too much commercial office space. So rents are going to be a little bit lowered. And that's going to be good for a little company based in Fort Lauderdale called value payment. Because we're looking for a home office campus. And some of these guys that are looking to sell their proper

Starting point is 00:15:59 are going to need to basically all that. They're aggressively, aggressively recruiting us to move to Miami. So we're going to see what's going to happen with it. That sounds horrible, Pat. We don't want to be living in Miami. I know. That's not what we need in our life.

Starting point is 00:16:10 Aggressively recruit us to move the building to Miami. But what's it? You want to make sense of this, Pat, on your end? Yeah, I think that's the, I'm purely asking data. Like when you pulled up the population, we're not going to get to 370 million people. But God knows when, you know, like, 365, 6, most likely by 2100. That's what, 76 years from now to get to 360.

Starting point is 00:16:30 Where are we right now, Rob? 335, 340. I mean, what? The population, I mean, yeah, what's the US population right now? So we're gonna go, okay, 331, that's, but that's 2021. So let's just say, 2024, 340, give or take. I don't know. I don't know if this, right, 340, give or take, I don't know. I don't know if this, yeah, 335 in the US,

Starting point is 00:16:48 I don't know if this applies to all industries. I don't know if this applies to industries. I think it's gonna be pocket, I think it's gonna be cities, I think it's gonna be regulation, I think it's gonna be over-build, I think it's gonna be a lot of that stuff. And by the way, you know, BlackRock right now

Starting point is 00:17:03 is laying off 3 percent of their employees. That's 600 employees that will be laying off. Even though their numbers are back up, they're doing okay. But, you know, it's going to be predicated based on, Tom, go ahead, you're trying to say something. He's itch. No, I know when he's moving. I was waiting for you because there's those three lines

Starting point is 00:17:20 over there on the left for pretty interesting. Got it. So one birth every nine seconds, one death every nine seconds, and one international migrant every 20 seconds. That question you have to ask on top of all this is where does AI fit into all this? That's the part. Where does UBI fit into this universal basic?

Starting point is 00:17:37 What's gonna happen with all that stuff? Yeah, so again, we'll see what's gonna happen there. Now next one here is Americans are racking up more phantom debt, and if you know what phantom debt is, this whole buy now's going to happen there. Now, next one here is Americans are racking up more phantom debt. And if you know what phantom debt is, this whole buy now, pay later type of stuff. And that's a problem when you see how this thing actually works. So, Rob, run another poll. Again, I'm curious.

Starting point is 00:17:57 I know we ran it last time. How many people have used a buy now pay later system ever? Just buy now pay later. Yeah. By now, pay later. PNF, that's the question. Yes, see what people will tell you there. So, a by now pay later loans, which can be challenging to track, have surgeon popularity with a 14% Euro

Starting point is 00:18:15 of your increase during the holidays, according to Adobe data. This type of debt, often not reported to credit agencies is referred to as phantom debt, and it could indicate that total household debt levels are higher than traditional measures suggest. Warns Tim Quinlan, senior economist at Wells Fargo, managing multiple binocaine pay later loans with different payments, dates is a challenge potentially leading to increased consumer debt.

Starting point is 00:18:40 BMPL, again, binocaine pay later could lead to an increase in consumer debt as consumers may be more likely to take additional debt if they know they can spread out payments a survey revealed that 42% of Binah Pay Later borrowers made late payments toward those loans, Tom. Well, guess what? We remember what happened to credit card debt. It smashed the one trillion ceiling right at the end of September. Yeah. Yeah. Right back up, but we talked about this at length. It got down a little under half a billion

Starting point is 00:19:10 during COVID and also that's over a trillion. So, but we also saw that wages weren't really up and the workforce really didn't grow dramatically. So that means those folks put them in debt for one trillion and along comes BNPL, companies saying, hey, click here, buy now, pay later. And Pat talked about this on a podcast and he explained the difference between hard inquiry and a soft inquiry. So it was a soft inquiry and people's credit.

Starting point is 00:19:38 So it then drove up on the credit report. Yet, so they got to find a way to buy whatever it is they want to buy. So they use BNPO where they break something into like three, four payments. And suddenly they're in more debt than actually their credit report reveals. So wait, so wait, just on my brain, when you guys talk about money and BN, all that crap. So you're saying that consumers are putting themselves deeper in the hole. So like, let's say I want to max out my credit card, but I still want to buy more stuff I can do

Starting point is 00:20:07 and they let me do it, right? Yeah, BNPL. So it's BNPL, so it's buy now, poor later. That's what you're making. That's what I'm gonna be broken, by the way. You know the layaway concept, the layaway concept was you didn't get the product. Yeah, you have to keep paying until you get the product, which by the way, that's great. I have to have a layaway concept was you didn't get the product. Yeah, you have to keep paying until you get the product,

Starting point is 00:20:25 which by the way, that's great. I have to have a layaway product. This is like layaway product, but you get what you want up front. Why would you do that? This is like saying, you're going to college, but we're gonna give you the four year degree up front. Even though it's gonna take four years for you to really get it.

Starting point is 00:20:40 But guess what? For the sake of helping to get a better job, take this four year degree up front, we know later on you're gonna get it. What guess what? For the sake of helping to get a better job, take this for your degree up front. We know later on you're going to get it. What a stupid system, right? To do it. But you're hurting people, hardcore, getting into more that as if we're not already in too much debt, you're adding even more to it. And people are using it. So they're, they're hoping because they're like, okay, we'll give it to you. They're hoping you start missing those payments because the, once you miss a payment, what does it jump up to?

Starting point is 00:21:06 No, no, it's sky rocket. It's ridiculous. It's a bad way. No surprise. America's got a trillion dollar credit card debt and 42% of the buy now pay later that started on Black Friday has been late. Oh, weird.

Starting point is 00:21:21 Rob, what's the poll look like? What a surprise. Yeah, weird ladies and gentlemen. Okay, let's go to the next story here I just had one thing I'm gonna chance to weigh in on this we're not gonna go to everybody I don't go to Vinny every time but if you have something real quick go for it Well, I just what we realized is that since COVID this K-shape economy is a real thing You know they talk about the difference between Wall Street and Main Street.

Starting point is 00:21:45 For those of us lucky enough to know how finances work and you've saved that money you've invested. Life's great. You know, everyone thinks like Vinnie, we had this conversation other day, what do you think the current inflation rate is the other day? Everyone's like 8, 12, 15. Current inflation rate is 3%, but there's a COVID hangover. So people don't realize that the economy has gotten better, but for people at the top, if you're at the bottom and you're the 2-thirds of America

Starting point is 00:22:08 that's living paycheck to paycheck, you're struggling. Unemployment. People think that unemployment is a 20%. Sorry. It's a 3.5%. So people think the economy is a lot worse than it is because those are the people on Main Street.

Starting point is 00:22:18 People on Wall Street, they're doing great. Everyone wants to know, hey, there's a recession this year. They're going to happen in 2024. Not turns out the stock market went up 25, frickin' percent. Meanwhile, you have the people living paycheck to paycheck. I just did a video across the street at this Amscot. You familiar with that? Yeah. Where it's the payday loan law. That's the word. Where are the money people? I went in there and I'm like, hey, if you want to get your money absolutely wrecked, come visit here at Amscot. They show you on the signs in the building

Starting point is 00:22:45 that they charge 400%, 500%, 300% and people are doing it. There's a line out the dorm. Like you guys are getting your ass kicked by Ampscot. Shout out to Ampscot right now. That's all. The way Chicta said 240 branches, 2000 plus employees has been around since 1989.

Starting point is 00:23:01 Yeah, so it's not like there's not a business for. There's a business model for the poor just getting poor. And that's unfortunate thing. And Pat, you touch on this a million times during COVID, where do you think the money flows when you give out free money and you give out stimulus checks? It's gonna flow to the top. We saw who became the richest man in the world,

Starting point is 00:23:21 during COVID, it wasn't Elon Musk, it was Bernardo No, who basically owns, who doesn't basically owns LVMA, Transans for Louis Vuitton, Moette Hennessy, they own everything. Gucci, Prada, Moette, this, that they own every store in the mall. And this guy became the richest guy in the world

Starting point is 00:23:38 because everyone got their stimulus checks, they didn't pump it into a Roth IRA, they pumped it into a new bag from Balenciaga. And that's exactly what happened. The Lyside Joe Biden's cousin. Look at him. You know, it's a very interesting, we'll get on the next thing here.

Starting point is 00:23:51 My parting chat pad is, there's a very interesting rule of thumb. This is, take all the stimulus that's given to every household that's under 100 grand. That's two people making 50. Just take 12% of it, and that's the net game for the stock market. Why? It's EBITDA, because they spent it all.

Starting point is 00:24:07 And it ends up on the bottom line profit for all the companies on the stock market that made all the stuff that they just bought. Listen, let me talk to certain people here right now. So I have a few people that I'm talking to this year. And to the people whose income grows where you're constantly broke, you don't have an income problem.

Starting point is 00:24:28 To the people that, you know, if you were broke making 50K a year and you said, if I only make more money, I'm gonna be better. Then you broke at 100K, then you broke at a quarter million, then you broke at a half a million, then you broke at a million, you're going to be broke no matter how much then you broke out a million, you're going

Starting point is 00:24:45 to be broke no matter how much money you ever make. Now, I'm not talking about the power of broke like, hey, you know, always when you get money, you let it go out and all the nut Chris Scott, David John, yeah. That's like a bad moment you just had right there. But that's okay. I get in the pursuit of you know what? That interview is like, hey, Samuel Jackson. I'm not saying you just because I'm black, I'm Sam, you'll Jackson, Lawrence, Fisher. Anyways, so if you're constantly making that increasing your income, but you don't have savings, there's a problem. At whatever level, I posted something on Twitter just a minute ago. Rob, if you want to go pull this up, I

Starting point is 00:25:20 literally posted this morning and I said, everyone has a reputation. If you just click on that and zoom in a little bit, because, yeah, there you go. Go a little bit, I said, everyone has a reputation, some good, some bad. Your actions determine your reputation in the marketplace. New Year's Eve, 2002, I'm at In and Out Burger in Universal Studios, literally. In the backside with another guy that we split the in and out burger and we got water with lemon and sweet and low. You know why?

Starting point is 00:25:49 Because that's called lemonade. And we split it, split the double double, he gets one, he gets half, I get half. And what's the Ryan Seacrest is doing? The 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Then I'm sitting there saying, what a frickin' shitty way to go into a new year, okay? Going through a bad breakup, I got not a penny to my name.

Starting point is 00:26:08 I'm $49,000 in debt. Life sucks, I'm asking God, I'm talking to myself. Do I go back and join the army? Is that what I do? Do I just go back and do 20 years? Because I've already done 20, half years, with a little bit of reserve, which means I've got probably five years, I only need to do 15 more years.

Starting point is 00:26:25 What do I do there? And then I made, in my mind, I'm like, what's your reputation? Because my dad would say, you're this, you're dad, you're, I made a list of reputation that I had in the market place. Out of everything I wrote down, I wanted my new reputation to be, and it came down to one thing. I wanted the new reputation to be, whatever Patses he's going to do, it's going to get done.

Starting point is 00:26:44 I wanted my word to cash my big, many big checks and it was going to take a bold, no reputation. I wanted to bring confidence and the people who believed in me and put the fear of God in those who didn't. I know it sounds a bit dark, but that's me. It was the hardest reputation to build because the pressure that it comes with, but just like shooting free throws, the percentage of things getting done, kept increasing higher and higher and higher. We have a big vision with a ton of work to do about the reputation getting things done. Got started back in 2002. If you allow a reputation to linger around, it eventually becomes a permanent reputation.

Starting point is 00:27:18 You know your reputation. You know who you are. No matter how much you make yourself feel good about your reputation, your actions have caused you the reputation that you currently have today, but you can choose to change that now, never let the world dictate your reputation. If you do, they'll own you forever. Future looks bright. What's the point here? I don't care how much money you make. Start saving money. You're going out to the party. I'm saving money. You're going out to the party? I'm not coming. We're going out to the club Saturday night. Dude, I'm not coming.

Starting point is 00:27:49 We're gonna go over here. Dude, I'm not coming. We're gonna go do this. I'm not coming. Save, save, invest, save, save, save. Your income goes up, don't change your lifestyle. Your income goes up, don't change your lifestyle. Your income goes up, don't change your lifestyle.

Starting point is 00:28:04 Let your income increase two, three, four, five times before you dramatically change your lifestyle. If you can afford to live in a million out of home, living a half a million out of home. If you can afford to live in a three million out of home, living a million out of home. If you can afford to live in a 10 million out of home, living a two million out of home.

Starting point is 00:28:19 And then all of a sudden, boom! You're like, man, this pillow got softer. I sleep better right now. I feel better. What the hell just happened, all of a sudden, boom! You're like, man, this pillow got softer. I sleep better right now. I feel better. What the hell just happened all of a sudden? Because you made better decisions. So some people have an income problem, fine. But most people don't have an income problem.

Starting point is 00:28:34 Most people have a saving and a spending problem that's haunting them. And when you are in debt and you're all in everybody money, you are just not in a good, weak place. You don't do husband better, you don't do friend better, you don't do business better, you don't do any of that stuff better. So that's my biggest thing when we're talking

Starting point is 00:28:53 about buying our pay later. Don't fall for all these bullshit gimmick traps that all these other guys are selling you just because everybody else is doing BMPL, whatever it's called, you don't need to fall for that trap. You go increase your market value, think about your vision long term, what you want your life to look like,, you don't need to fall for that trap. You go increase your market value, think about your vision long term, what you want your life to look like, what you want

Starting point is 00:29:07 your dreams to look like, and then make better decisions. One day you'll wake up and everyone's going to say, wait a minute, what happened to you, bro? How are you living this life, bro? Because all those 97 times you invited me to go smoke, weed, and party, and do all that shit. I said, no, to you. That's what happened.

Starting point is 00:29:22 And you went, OK? It's that simple. So we just have to make better decisions and not fall for this crowd. When I see this number here, 3,400 people voted. 28% did a buy now pay later. What's 28% on 3,400? That's about 1,000 people, right?

Starting point is 00:29:37 Give or take, have done BMPL. Make a decision, guys. Don't do it, do not fall for it. Anyways, let's go to the next story. Lulu Lemon hits back at founder anti-DI comments. Lulu Lemon hits back at the founders anti-DI comments. They do not reflect our company's views. Look at this company, they do not reflect our company's views.

Starting point is 00:30:00 You are your founders company. What do you mean they do not reflect our company's views? Your founders started your company? Can you imagine how dumb it is for you to say what you do you know what they're saying of course? Lulu lemon hits back at the founder if it wasn't for the founder there is no Lulu lemon you you know Yeah, basically what's up again her American today. We don't endorse what our founding fathers That's right. Yeah, basically try to make poor America. They were here way before you and I were here. America matters way more than you and I do.

Starting point is 00:30:27 They start this great country. Lulu Leman distance itself from its founder Chip Olson's recent criticism of the company's diversity and inclusion efforts. Wilson has stated they're trying to become like the gap. Everything to everybody. You've got to be clear that you don't want certain customers coming in. What a powerful statement. The company issued a statement clarifying that Wilson's comments do not represent Lululema's

Starting point is 00:30:50 views or believes they highlighted that Wilson had no involvement with the company since his resignation from the board in 2015. Wilson, known for previous controversial remarks, also criticized some of the models used in Lululema's advertising campaigns as sickly on healthy and not inspirational according to Forbes. Look, as they always say, you try to please everybody, you please nobody. And this is exactly what's happening here. It's so upsetting.

Starting point is 00:31:15 You're founder of multiple companies, PPD. It must be so upsetting for the founder of a company, the vision that they have, the vision that they cast, the belief that they have, the company they found, and then a decade or two later completely see it crumble. Totally endorse what Chip Wolzen is saying on this one, and he brings up the gap. He brings up companies that have just basically tried to basically make it the body positivity movement. We see what's going on in Victoria's Secret. It used to be known

Starting point is 00:31:45 as if you're the most gorgeous, beautiful fit, like cream of the crop woman out there. You'll get some angels on your back, right? Now it's like, yeah, if you're looking like Amy Schumer and you do your thing out there, you know about this bend. It's like, yeah, we'll throw some mud-colored angels wings on you and we'll just roll around like a little pig out there. If you're Lizzo out there, hey, looking good, you can endorse our product. Though I'm assuming the whole premise of Lulu Lemon

Starting point is 00:32:13 was basically, look good, feel good, be fit, be athletic, get your ass out there, work out, be comfortable, do your thing, but now it's turned into basically a DEI prerequisite, where if you're fat, you know, you're going to make it in this company. This is not the, yeah, exactly. This is not the first founder that looks back on a company he made and watches them deteriorate and has something to say about it.

Starting point is 00:32:35 I seem to recall that Steve Jobs returned to Apple after they had their 40 years in the desert and Howard Schultz returned to Starbucks. You know, maybe Chip needs to return. And by the way, the comments he made about models was, you have to remember, fashion is incredibly woke industry and it's an incredibly drug-addled industry. Yes, I said it, but it's true. And they're talking about the size one models that are on the cocaine and diet coke diet and he was saying they look sickly they don't look healthy this is not good but somewhere between that

Starting point is 00:33:10 and all this body positivity stuff and so he's out there talking would they rather have the CEO of American apparel that that's CEO who would use drugs in the office and it was just a free for all the sorts of an orgy of walk this and he would drugs in the office and it was just a free-for-all of the sorts of an orgy of wokeness and he would walk across the office stark naked except for a sock covering Mr. Johnson and friends and so Tom I have no clue where this place is going. I'm like can I take this? Would you like that? Can I take who this guy is?

Starting point is 00:33:42 Let me do this guys. First off, ChippewSON is a badass. He's a BMF. I interviewed this guy many years ago, and I intentionally wrote, I think I wore ripped jeans, like literally ripped black jeans because in his book that had just come out,

Starting point is 00:33:56 we met in Zuma. I don't know where we met. It was a great conversation we had because apparently he used to go to work in Speedo's, okay? And the way he started Lululemon, very, very, what am I wearing in this interview? Yeah, yeah, there you go, because I was telling him a joke. Wow. When would you ever see me wear something like that?

Starting point is 00:34:12 You know, you're looking good. But I tell you, I can't. He and I were, and you have to watch the interview to know what I'm doing. But this guy, when we sat down and we spoke, so he, do you know how he starts the company? He goes to all the local yoga stores in Santa Monica and LA and he listens to girls' complaints after yoga. Okay?

Starting point is 00:34:30 So he realizes the biggest complaint girls and after yoga is they couldn't go from yoga to the mall. They had to go yoga, coffee, home to change because they were embarrassed and he talks about the fact that he was worried it's going to show there. What's the word? No, no, there's a word that they camel, camel, no, literally he talks about that in a book. Okay. So he's like, well, that's a problem. And he says, I noticed everybody was saying this. Okay. So he said, I'm going to be

Starting point is 00:34:57 able to fix this. He says, so I went back and I designed them and I kept looking at the girls putting it on and said, boom, you can't see it anymore. Would you be comfortable going in them all? Perfect. He creates that product. Okay. At the time, 100% of his customers were women. Then he goes to 88% of his customers being women.

Starting point is 00:35:16 The name he comes up with, he says, the reason why I chose the name L because I noticed Japanese, people couldn't pronounce the word L. And it was a joke to him. This guy's a little bit of a joke, pranks their type of a guy, just so you know that. He L. And it was a joke to him. This guy's a little bit of a joke, pranks their type of a guy, just so you know that.

Starting point is 00:35:26 So here's a story by him. If you go to eight outrageous remarks by Lula Lemmon, founder of Chip Olson, this is our kind of a guy by the way. Where's he from? I don't know where he's from, but dude, I was with him, his family, his family was there,

Starting point is 00:35:37 they were all laughing, having a good time. Well, you could tell, this guy enjoys his life. Okay, so let me read this to you. Wilson once claimed that smoking and birth control pills led to high divorce rates. Okay, so that pissed a lot of people off, too. He once said he chose to call his company Lululemon

Starting point is 00:35:54 because he thought it was funny that Japanese people couldn't pronounce the letter L. So he said it was so funny to watch them try to say it. He says because of that, I name my company Lululemon. Wilson is an avid fan of iron rant it was so funny to watch them try to say it. He says, because of that, I name my company, Lululemon. Wilson is an avid fan of Iron Rand and stated printing the phrase, who is John Gault, on the company's bags in November of 2011, without his CEO, knowing about it.

Starting point is 00:36:17 Like, this is that guy, okay? So then he takes the company, realizes most of them are women. You know what he ends up doing? Can you type in right now, Lululemon? What percentage of Lululemon customers are women versus men? Okay, I wanna say the number he brought down from 100% to 88% to today's like one third to third.

Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah, check that out. A third of the customer on men, where and those, would you have ever thought about it? No, think about it. When you think about Lululemon, you don't think about women, right? You don't think about it,

Starting point is 00:36:44 you think about women. A you don't think about women, right? You don't think about men, you think about women. A third of his customers in 2020, let alone today. So these guys were able to get both men and women. There's a reason why he's worth $7 billion. This guy is a bad-ass guy, respect to chip. We need more chips in America to create jobs, a behemoth of a company he built, and he's worth $7 billion,

Starting point is 00:37:04 and these clowns are saying, our founders, comments, doesn't reflect what we stand for as a company. Let me get to straight. He gave the company the name. He came up with the ideas for women for yoga. He did all that stuff and you don't value what the founder said. You know how comical and foolish this sounds?

Starting point is 00:37:24 This is the same exact thing where these magazines like Forbes that were once the best magazine for every capitalism in America. Now the writers are a Columbia grad journalist bullshit liberal left can't stand capitalist can't stand business people is not telling business people how bad capitalist is how bad these money people are. That's what happens to the brand eventually and lose its control. Hopefully that doesn't happen to Lulu Lemon. But all I'm saying right now, if you've never met this man, if you've never spent time with this man, go study his book, study him. He's an absolute stud of a guy on how he built this incredible brand. And I hope they don't ruin this incredible brand,

Starting point is 00:38:05 Chip Wilson built out there. Anyway, let's go to the next story. Good for Chip, by the way. We need more chips in the world. Okay, next, which one do you want to do? Let's go to Elon Musk and drugs. Here we go. I don't know what that transition is,

Starting point is 00:38:17 but that's what we're going to talk about. Here we go. Elon Musk has used illegal drugs, warrient leaders at Tesla and SpaceX. This is a Wall Street Journal story. Elon Musk's alleged illegal drug use includes, it includes what is it? LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, and ketamine,

Starting point is 00:38:36 often at private parties with non-disclosure agreements. He has even taken illegal drugs with current SpaceX and former Tesla board member Steve, Jerves, and Musk's drug use raises concerns about violating federal policies, potentially jeopardizing SpaceX's government contracts and breaking company policies at both SpaceX and Tesla. Some Tesla board members have discussed their worries about his drug consumption informally and his actions have previously led to an SEC investigation while some speculate that musks unusual behavior

Starting point is 00:39:07 Could be linked to drug use others attributed to factors like his consistent lack of sleep and mental health challenges Vinnie Okay, let's just take a step back. Okay. Always look at those words allegedly Okay, and this is another hit piece just like like they tried with being anti-Semitic, just about him back in a day with all women. It's long story short, they're trying to destroy him because he bought the only form that we could have free speech. And you know what, let's be honest, you know why he's a huge threat?

Starting point is 00:39:37 What year is this year? This is election year. Election year. So guess what, think about it. Last presidential election, who on Twitter? Who was it? Jack Dorsey right and what happened? 80 FBI agents were at Twitter stopping every story that you guys were supposed to hear the hunter Biden all the all that Twitter files

Starting point is 00:39:56 Twitter files so and they they stop all these negative stories now you have Elon Musk who's really concerned about the open border situation I don't know if you guys have been paying attention that's the majority of elan musk tweets and uh... besides called mark human racists he said yesterday in this tweet this is more uh... this is elan in the u.s.a. you don't need a government issued id to vote and you can mail in your ballot

Starting point is 00:40:22 that's insane okay think about his reach, Patrick. I don't know how many millions and millions, yesterday it was at 12 million, but he just posted it. If that word gets out, that they're cheating. Okay, they're concerned because he's giving us the platform so we can talk shit and point out that the border is completely wide open.

Starting point is 00:40:41 Okay, there's 12, I think by the end of Biden's run, there's gonna be over 12 million people. Did you know that? And he's saying that's more than the last three presidencies combined of immigration. So you'd think about it and Maju, it's not like, where's it at? 38 million, but almost 39 million people are seeing this.

Starting point is 00:41:02 Okay, then, think about how this goes down. Then you see people are seeing this, okay? Then, think about how this goes down. Then you see people like AOC, okay, that complete moron. She's on the daily show, which is basically unwatchable, unfunny, it's the worst show. You know what she's saying with the solving? Just a whole stocking. Yeah, she goes, not the wall, just let everybody in,

Starting point is 00:41:24 but document them. Do you have that clip, Rob? Because I want to show you like, I want to show you two things. Look, listen to what she says. Ready for this? Listen to this. This is who, this is who.

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Starting point is 00:42:07 But one of the reasons that our public systems experience weight is because people don't have a document. Well, you know what, two scary things I want everybody out there to be concerned about. She's the future. She's the future of the Democratic Party, because people will vote for it to be president. The second one that really scares me,

Starting point is 00:42:24 did you hear that audience response? That audience clapped at the Daily Show. No, 100%, 100%, but you know what I think? You know the FBI went after everybody at January 6th to put them in jail. We should find out everybody in that audience that was applauding this and make sure that they don't procreate, including her.

Starting point is 00:42:41 Because we don't need that crap, bro. And this goes way back, Adam, because I know you wanna say something. This goes way back, this has been their plan forever. Rob, I slacked you this clip of Joe Biden on the Congress floor. This has been a plan with Mayorkas next to him, that little rat, and this is their goal of making us, non, let's watch, play this clip, listen.

Starting point is 00:43:01 An on-relenting stream of immigration. Unrelenting, Non-stop. Yeah, it's happening to pieces of shit. Folks like me who are Caucasian of European descent, for the first time in 2017, will be in an absolute minority. I know, look at my orchestra. Look at that rat. Absolute minority.

Starting point is 00:43:21 Fewer than 50% of the people in America. From then and on, it's a plan. We'll be white European stock. That's not a bad thing. That's a source of our strength. Well, yeah, so think about this. Elon, he does this with women. He's allegedly doing drugs. He hates Jewish people.

Starting point is 00:43:41 Anything to knock him down to get rid of him because he's letting us see shit like this on expat. 1,000%. He's the threat. Tom, where do you think? I mean, guys, I get what you're saying. I'm, by the way, for AOC, it's a brilliant strategy for the left, what they're doing. You got to give them credit on how awesome of a strategy is to let this many people come in, more in one administration than the last three combined, and then you convert them and give them a path

Starting point is 00:44:07 to citizenship, and you know 65% of them are voting to the left. So if you're gambling man, the house is on, you are the house, you're winning. You're odds of winning that bet is on you, then the other side, right? But go back to the Elon Musk story, on the Elon Musk story. This isn't some, you know, daily mail or this isn't some, you

Starting point is 00:44:29 know, media matters. This is a Wall Street Journal. And by the way, when they interview the person, they're like, you can't write, and it says, listen, our sources are very credible that this is actually happening. This is not like we're winging it here. And then they asked the lady from Wall Street Journal and they said, so, you know, what does this mean when it comes out to Tesla, guidelines, drugs?

Starting point is 00:44:52 He says, well, Tesla has guidelines that you can't be using drugs. A lot of these companies that it works for do the same things apply to them it does. And then how about the contracts that you're getting from, you know, NASA and the government contracts all this stuff, same exact thing? So now, Elon's defense, he's coming out saying, I've been drug tested every single time since,

Starting point is 00:45:11 what do you call it, the Rogan podcast when he did, and they've been drug testing them, drug testing them, drug testing them. So is it true or not, Tom, what do you think when you hear a story like this? You've spent some time with some of these folks, you know, creative folks in Silicon Valley that, you know, they feel maybe there's an edge when you're taking this, you know, Steve Jobs has made certain comments about LSD. What are your thoughts about the credibility of this story? Yeah. First of all, I think the story is credible. Has Elon Musk used, yeah, we saw him smoked dope on, on Rogan, and there's a lot of people, including Elon, from time to time,

Starting point is 00:45:46 have made comments about magic mushrooms or microdosing. That is all over Silicon Valley, microdosing and mushrooms. It's not used by everyone, but it's widely used. So that doesn't surprise me there, and it doesn't surprise me that he's's there and that he's part of it now Some of these other stories here these these comments are from people go back several years because It does appear that what Elon's drawing a line in the sand on is hey, I just now got tested I've been tested regularly since 2018 so you know he's drawing a line there

Starting point is 00:46:26 And so I I think that yeah, do I think he's microdose saying you're using magic mushrooms? Yeah, yes, I do You know, and I think the story is credible. Do I think he's he's still you know Binging on the weekend doing 10 rails or 10 rails like that. No, no. Tom, I want to party you back with you back in the 80s when you were doing your thing. But Tom, here's my thing. Here's my thing.

Starting point is 00:46:51 He could micro, I don't give two shit. If he's giving us a platform to talk. If he's putting shit into outer space. If he's doing a neural link and trying to help people, if he's speaking about the border. I get what you're saying. No, I get what you're saying. It's a timing no weird to you.

Starting point is 00:47:04 No, bro, but you have to know that when you're, when you're doing that and your, for example, like, you know, the profile of an Elon Musk, okay, is anti-authority. Don't tell me what to do. I'm going to, you can't tell the profile of an Elon Musk of what to do. You can't do it. However, the good and the bad and the ugly comes with it because if he says he's gonna do something, he's gonna do it. If he's got a real enemy, you don't need to worry about him destroying his enemy. He's going to destroy his enemy because no one's more obsessed about it than him.

Starting point is 00:47:47 But at the same time, even a guy at that level, you need to have certain people behind closed doors that you trust 100% that nothing even you tell them leaks to their wife, leaks to their husbands, leaks to their friends, nothing to say, man, what do you think about this? Here's what I'm thinking about. What do you thoughts on this?

Starting point is 00:48:04 It sounds like like, bro, just pump the brakes. You're a target now.? Here's what I'm thinking about. What do you thoughts on this? Seems like look bro, just pump the brakes. You're a target now. And here's what could happen to you. And this is what you gotta be thinking about. And your enemy, the state number one now, he is number one. I think so. No, I don't think there's anybody. And by the way, I'm telling you, today he's above Trump.

Starting point is 00:48:19 And why do you say that? Why do you say that? Because he has more power today than Trump does. Today, today, he's ahead of Trump. When we did our top media ranking for vitamin, Rob, if you can pull it up, we put a top 50, most influential media names and media, right? Yeah, if you type in, you'll see vitamin,

Starting point is 00:48:41 this one, right? If you guys haven't gone through this list, and we went from, and by the way, it was some of the names we had on the list, people are like, wow, what an media to me. Doesn't mean you're gonna like them or disagree with them. I think we start off with number 50 being, keep going through it. I think it's Como 50 and then it goes all the way down.

Starting point is 00:48:55 And you can see all these names that we have. Look at the names we got. Left, right, center, doesn't matter. You hate, you love, it's gonna be there, right? But goal the way down to number one. Go all the way. If somebody wants to see it right, you can put the link in the comment section and

Starting point is 00:49:06 chat for them to see it. Yeah, Elon Musk is number one. Yeah. I had a Trump today. Okay. So when you are enemy of the state number one, you have targets, you have threats, you have more cameras, all eyes on you, and they're just looking at something. So imagine if a judge is able to use this and go to SEC and say, you are no longer capable of being the CEO and the chairman of the board of X. Now who loses? You lose.

Starting point is 00:49:37 You. You don't want that. And so the same guidelines that apply to an employee at Tesla, at SpaceX, applies to the founder, because you're an employee. I'm maybe the founder. I'm still an employee. So those guidelines don't get somebody to say, well, you can't get away with it because it doesn't do that. So I'm just talking like a board member is what I'm talking about. And the mindset of a founder that doesn't like authority telling them what to do. I'm just saying, you have to be a little bit careful because you're extra, extra targeting

Starting point is 00:50:11 it. No, I understand that. But my point is though, I understand I agree 100%. What I'm saying is, look at all the stories that are coming out and the timing of a he 100% more 100% that's going to be worse. But I'm saying, I go back to the why and the why is and you nailed it. It's because he's such a threat because he's letting us speak. He's letting us see the stories and you nailed it. He is a free.

Starting point is 00:50:35 Don't give them. Don't give them another. They're going to already make a bunch of shit up about you. They're already going to defame you. They're already going to do character assassination. They're already hate you. Yes. Don't give them additional ammunition.

Starting point is 00:50:48 But where'd they get the drug thing from? That's an alleged historic, but just because it's credible because it's watching the post, they're all owned by the same crew. Look, here's the reality. I think you're spot on. He is public enemy number one.

Starting point is 00:50:59 Why? Above Trump, why? Trump's got maybe four to eight more years of really doing his thing. Really, maybe four. This guy's got four more decades of doing his thing, especially if we end up on Mars doing our thing. So no doubt that I think Elon should be number one

Starting point is 00:51:13 and just think how weird we are in America right now. Four years ago, he voted for Biden. Fact, okay? Or if not, he definitely endorsed that message. It just shows how far left the left has gone. Whereas the right, with the exception of a few people, has kind of maintained their position. So just to show where Elon Musk is,

Starting point is 00:51:34 where Rogan is, where even Bill Maher is these days, they're just basically, dude, I might not be a maggot extremist, but I certainly ate this woke mind virus that's going on here on the left, back to the drug thing. So they're accusing them of doing drugs. They're saying he's doing illegal drugs, whether it's ketamine, whether it's LSD, whether it's cocaine, ecstasy, you know what? Probably did a little bit of that. I'm sure, you know. So, is that the biggest deal in the world?

Starting point is 00:52:01 The under the influence, trace amounts of this, listen, everyone that goes to art basil, they're handing out magic mushrooms like it's basically hot cakes going on over there. Is it concerning, not to me? Because there's a difference between recreational drugs and actually being an addict, okay? The, to be clear, if doing drugs recreationally made you the richest man in the world,

Starting point is 00:52:24 signed me up for Elon's plan. And you know who agrees? I did polls over the week on this exact same story. You know how hard it is to get anything 60, 40, everything so divisive these days. I said, what are your thoughts on Elon must do in drugs? And I give two options. Let Elon be Elon or shame on you, Elon. What do you think the results were?

Starting point is 00:52:43 93% of people said, let Elon you Elon. What do you think the results were? 93% of people said, let Elon, do Elon. I also asked, what are your thoughts on the whole woke mind virus that he's basically going in on? 93% of people, it was on Instagram. 93% of people said, it's a woke mind virus. That's what's going on there. So listen, sometimes when you want to dream big and you want to go to Mars

Starting point is 00:53:05 You might need a little DMT in your life, okay? I mean, Drogon talks about it the Ovan talks about it if Elon Musk wants to smoke a joint or take a magic mushroom to relax I'd rather him do that than just start binge drinking alcohol and I think the left needs to decide which way do you guys want it? You want to decriminalize all drugs. You want to make them legal. You know, Portland, Oregon, all the things that they accused them of using is legal. So you could have said, well, I was in Portland for the weekend, you know, and it's legal. And or, you know, you know, marijuana should be legal everywhere. And cocaine should be decriminalized everywhere. And mushrooms and LSD should be legal everywhere.

Starting point is 00:53:44 Which way do you want it? Do you want it for a convenient attack on a guy who's going to enable the greatest platform for free speech that we still have? You should be the US Constitution, now it's X. Or do you want to pick on the guy and say, oh, oh, drug use, drug bad, drug bad. Which way do you want it? The way that the categorized drugs is actually very weird. Okay, there's a big difference to taking a like a microdose of mushrooms then full on going balls deep in some heroin or some meth. I don't believe in some.

Starting point is 00:54:13 I don't believe none of it. You may be see, I'm not gonna front. You may be see, he is the number one threat and it's because, dude, the buying Twitter and making an X is the worst thing because now we get to talk and see their bullshit. And think about what's bigger. Twitter X is a true social, final point.

Starting point is 00:54:31 Option one, Elon Musk, microdosing, doing a few things, successfully running a bunch of companies, improving free speech, doing a lot for mankind, okay, recreational drug user, okay, very creative, okay. Whatever, fine. There's just option one, option number two, hunter Biden. Yeah, okay. Untrutable, untreatable, attic with his second set of teeth,

Starting point is 00:54:53 pictures of unmentionables. This is an uncontrolled person who's an addict who's still cooking in the light house. Great point Tom, there's a big difference between the type of drug that you're doing. No doubt. All right, let's go to the next one. Let's go to the next one.

Starting point is 00:55:06 You're a boink. Imagine folks you're on a flight and this happens to you. Rob, if you want to pull up this video, you're on a flight, mining your own business, maybe you're watching a movie, maybe you're chilling, maybe you're doing what you're doing, you're reading the book, and then all of a sudden go and play this clip. Boom, this is what happens. Oh, we're on a flight, guys. Look how calm everybody is. Gone. That's a full-on flight.

Starting point is 00:55:29 Oh, and Alaska Airlines flight. And that door is gone. And nobody... Yeah, go ahead. Let me read this. Let me read this. Let me read this story and I'm sure we'll get into it. So, Boeing 737 Air Airliner grounded by FAA after window blown out in mid-air horror,

Starting point is 00:55:51 the Federal Aviation Administration FAA has ordered a temporary grounding of the 171 Boeing 737 MAX9 aircraft after a window has ripped from a plane mid-flight with some planes requiring immediate inspections before they can return to flights. And Alaska Airlines flight and experience a horrifying incident as a portion of the planes,

Starting point is 00:56:09 fuel, a fuselage, a blue out, mid-air, leading to an emergency landing stunt passengers described seeing a large section of the plane blown out with photos showing a gaping hole on the aircraft side, Boeing 737 Max planes once grounded due to safety concerns in 2019 are now facing renewed scrutiny. The recent incident and grounding comes

Starting point is 00:56:33 after the planes were allowed to resume commercial service in 2020 following software upgrades and fixes to address previous safety. By the way, just so you know when you look at the story, they lost 13 billion dollars yesterday. Rumors came out from whistleblowers that Boeing no longer does the same quality control that they used to and they went hiring lobbyists

Starting point is 00:56:52 to say we don't need to be held to the same standards of quality control as other companies are. whistleblowers came out talking about the fact that they no longer check the whistleblower, that they no longer check the stuff on Boeing planes that they did check the stuff on Boynk planes that they did before. The other day a man is mining his own business. He notices a big ass bolt from a plane falls into his house. Did you see this clip?

Starting point is 00:57:15 This video they talked about. Can I kill somebody? That's like a bullet coming down, right? So I think FAA is investigating at what? Because they're producing so many planes and it's just like, look, get it out, get it out, get it out, get it out quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly. And when you're forced to hit the planes fast and you're not cucing, one, two bowls not being there. That's, by the way, look at that. That came through. I don't

Starting point is 00:57:41 know. That's the one or not. I'll find it and I'll send it to you, but a bold, purey boom came and fell on a plane. But go ahead. Look, everyone's trying to figure out what, you know, since you wrote the book, what their enemies are, I'm still trying to figure out mine. The top of my list is just sloppiness and cutting corners and trying to think you can get rich quick and all that nonsense that doesn't actually mean putting in the work, okay? This is just sloppy, this is scary, and I'm gonna take a different angle with this. You know what I blame this on? This is weird, DEI.

Starting point is 00:58:15 Because everyone talked about, all right, look, you know, United Airlines, they're at the forefront of this story right here. We're gonna hire all 50% of all pilots are gonna be men, 50% of pilots are gonna be all women. Not so fast guys, turns out that 90% of pilots are men. Are you just gonna start casually giving women jobs in the cockpit?

Starting point is 00:58:35 There's other things they can be doing with the cockpit, but that ain't the job. That's not the job. That ain't the job, Vinnie. But this to me is a trickle down effect of DEI. I say, I hired this person. We talked about in the S&P 100 that America's 60% white, yet they only hired 6% of white people for the top positions. This ain't a race thing. This is a meritocracy thing.

Starting point is 00:58:56 Get the best people for the job. Get the best people to fly the plane. Get the best people to build the plane. Get the best people to work the plane, get the best people to build the plane, get the best people to work the plane, enough with the DEI nonsense. We've seen how the basic of the sham that that is. And this to me is just a small story about not doing the best and just kind of doing some patchwork. Yes.

Starting point is 00:59:17 And can you imagine? So apparently my brother's wife Bianca was like, Vinnie, no flight was completely full. That seat was the only seat that nobody was sitting at. Super scary. And what if God forbid, because when it's up there, reach maximum altitude, I don't got my seatbelt on. The moment we reach, you know, 2000 feet, my seatbelt's off.

Starting point is 00:59:37 Can you imagine God forbid you get sucked out or you get on your lap and you're like, just because some guys like, nah, you know, you saw the kid that was sitting there is sure got And I got he had his seatbelt on boy and I'm shot out to everybody on that flight Did you see how calm they were I would have been screaming like a child if the door out of like The whole flight. I would have been losing my shit. They'd escaped great point then an absolute disaster Could you imagine if just one person fell out of the way?

Starting point is 01:00:08 Oh my God. You should be counting your looking blessings. It was a kid's shirt. Oh, imagine on a flight, because I think it was from like Oregon to California or Vancouver to somewhere that specifically ignored the flight. There's a Hawaiian Airlines flight where a, it had a structural failure like that. And the flight attendant was standing in the aisle and she went right out. That's a separate Airlines flight where a, had a structural failure like that.

Starting point is 01:00:25 And the flight attendant was standing in the aisle and she went right out. That's a separate story from this. Separately. This week as well, when I was saying there was a midair. It was back years and years and years ago. I'm talking about this story. Well, imagine falling out and landing on your house. Top.

Starting point is 01:00:39 It's wild, man. They escaped a unmitigated disaster. Oh, my God. Neverated disaster. Oh my god. Yeah, never found her. Never find her. Yeah. Good thought we were going to say? No, it's an unmitigated.

Starting point is 01:00:50 This is just shame on Boeing. I mean, the reason they were grounded in 2019 because the Boeing 737 Boeing, 737 MAX, had AI and highly automated air flight control systems, also known as autopilot. Well, the sensors that they built into the plane and the software they built actually start fighting with each other. And in Africa, the plane is saying, I think I'm in the wrong position, adjust, and then the plane senses it.

Starting point is 01:01:20 No, go the other way, no go the other way. And it created literally an argument between the actual physical sensors and the software. And it started porpoising and it fell out of the sky. One was in Africa, I believe, but that's a 2,737 maxes that they had all the sophisticated software. And there were whistleblowers at that time that said, here comes, we didn't test properly. Yeah, Ethiopian Airlines, brand new 737 max, 157 people, the thing starts

Starting point is 01:01:48 porphasing and the whistleblower said, we did not test this fully. This software is not tested number one. Number two, we didn't do the full pilot training on this because you can turn it off and you can do workarounds of the planes in trouble or heavy weather. And the Ethiopian pilots didn't know. They didn't know the workaround. These aren't dumb. These are highly skilled, fully educated licensed pilots. I'm bowing so they said they didn't have training systems, didn't have workaround systems,

Starting point is 01:02:14 and they rushed the thing out to market. And then two weeks later, either this was the first one or the second one, but there was two of them. Two of them crashed for the same reason within two weeks until globally everyone said, okay, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. All 737 Max's stay where you are. Nothing's taken off anymore. And you know what they, oh sorry, tell me. And you guess what, it was the same thing.

Starting point is 01:02:34 Quality control, lobbying the FAA, cutting the corners, and then whistleblowers coming out, we knew it. We were just rushing to market. We knew it. It's the same thing they're saying. How about the fact that nobody's talking about there was a flight in 2014 I believe in Malaysia flight 370 Missing disappeared just disappears

Starting point is 01:02:55 Nothing to see here. No block box. Where did go? Nobody knows any answers? We haven't solved it Who made that plane? Can we pull that up Rob? We found one piece. Aircraft type? Oh, that was a Boeing. Yeah, they found one. What the hell is going on at Boeing? Yeah, they're not. Now, if you tell me that Boeing built the plane that accidentally fell out of the sky from the Wagner group, a Purgosian, yeah, I'm never flying a Boeing jet again. Well, we all know that was Putin. So, we won't go there. Yeah, whatever. But guys, this is scary stuff, man, because the number one thing is I know how much you love heights, Pat. It's your favorite thing ever. You love being up there. It's your thing. This is scary stuff because you have zero control. Like Jesus take the wheel literally and you have no control of what's going on up there. And we're relying on you

Starting point is 01:03:40 Boeing on you, the airlines that have your shit together. But we're starting to see cracks in the armor of what you're doing out there, and it's scary as hell. Or in the fuselage, yeah. Tracks and fuselage. Yeah, well look, I never wanna hear that word fuselage, because anytime you hear the word fuselage, there's some shit happening. You're gonna think twice when the story of the next time.

Starting point is 01:04:00 I'll go to the next story. All of you sitting in the sudden exit row. Here we go. Pat McAfee accuses ESPN. By the way, you know the whole D.I. thing with Mark Cuban and Elon Musk going through yesterday. Elon Musk called Mark Cuban a racist yesterday. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:04:13 Did you see that? I saw that in between all the four. They're going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And I proposed. I said, Mark, you're not letting go of this. Mark and I had a very friendly Twitter exchange on DM each other. I would say probably a hundred messages over a span of two hours, back and forth. It was a debate.

Starting point is 01:04:33 It was a very friendly debate, but it was a fiery one that we had. I said, listen, I said, here's a suggestion for you, Mark Cuban. Since you're so confident in your D.I. argument, why don't you do an X-space with Elon Musk and others? You bring three to five influencers who agree with you, including bring 20 Fauci if you want. Bring whoever you want. So you won't feel like it's one side it.

Starting point is 01:04:52 Who would like to see this? I would love and then I posted a picture below of the guard he has to remind him, go a little lower. The Dallas Mavericks are consistently the white team in a black league, 15 out of 21 years. Did he respond to that? No, he hasn't responded to that He responded to that in DM, but he didn't respond to that on public and he and I spoke about it

Starting point is 01:05:12 So I'd love to see a Twitter space with Mark Cuban on the I and Yeah I've talked about that later. I'm more than like PVDs got something to say. Pat McAfee accuses ESPN executive of sabotaging his show. Here we go Pat. This is what happens when you go to a company like Disney, AKA ESPN you are dealing with the I scores that you gotta be careful with.

Starting point is 01:05:42 Pat McAfee Dispore's talk, sensation known for his YouTube show has accused the ESPN executive, Norby Williamson of purposefully undermining his show by leaking false information to the media. McAfee specifically pointed to Williamson as the one trying to sabotage the program stating more specifically, I believe Norby Williamson is the guy who was attempting to, do you have this clip wrap? Is attempting to sabotage our program? MacAfew is known for his outspoken and sometimes controversial style recently faced

Starting point is 01:06:15 backlash with a guest Aaron Rogers made controversial comments related to Jimmy Kimmel and Jeffrey Epstein. MacAfew later apologized for the incident. Additionally concerns arose about McAfee's TV ratings being lower than his lead in raising questions about the reported $85 million contract ESPN has with them. So think about the games. They're playing their rock. If you have that clip, go ahead and play it. I don't know if this is it.

Starting point is 01:06:41 We're very appreciative. And we understand that more people are watching the show than ever before. We're very thankful for the ESPN folks being very hospitable. Now, there are some people actively trying to sabotage us from within ESPN. More specifically, I believe, Norby Williamson is the guy who is attempting to sabotage our program. I'm not have said sure. That is just seemingly the only human that

Starting point is 01:07:05 has information and then somehow that information gets leaked and it's wrong and then it's such a narrative of what our show is and then are we just going to combat that from a rat every single time I don't know but like somebody tried to

Starting point is 01:07:19 get ahead of our actual ratings release with wrong numbers 12 hours beforehand that's a sabotage attempt. And it's been happening basically this entire season from some people who didn't necessarily love the old addition of the Pat McVeigh Show to the USBN family. Sure.

Starting point is 01:07:36 There's a lot of those. We've heard them anonymously quoted in Washington Post and the New York Post and the New York Times, any LA Times, in Wall Street Journal. And it never like, yeah, love the show. This is always like little things to try to tear us down. So even with the enemy within our own camp, somebody that we don't like that guy left me in his office

Starting point is 01:07:59 for 45 minutes, no showed me in 2018. So this guy has had zero respect for me and in return, same thing back to him for a long time. 45 minutes no showed me in 2018. So this guy has had zero respect for me and in return same thing back to him for a long time. So even with that taking place, and potential be like there's, we're still growing somehow. Yep.

Starting point is 01:08:15 Pause over there. I love it Pat McAfee. I love it. I love it. My question to you is though, as a business, so you think, because I don't know, you think it's smart for him to air out, is that guy a producer?

Starting point is 01:08:27 The guy he's talking about? He's an executive. Is that smart to do that to him about an air? Here's what I'll say to this bro. No, it's not about, it's a great question you're asking. It's not smart for him to air out. But remember, he's the guy that doesn't want him here. So imagine I want you at value payment.

Starting point is 01:08:44 You're here because I want you. You know I believe in you. You know I'm a fan of yours. Matter of fact, yesterday while we're doing our meeting during lunch, I showed a video of you when you were the protest stripper. Protest stripper, I showed that clip and I'm sitting there saying,

Starting point is 01:08:57 we're cracking up laughing, we're watching clips of you, okay? My kids watch clips of you. Not that one. No, not that one. But imagine if all of a sudden, one guy within the organization hates you, okay? My kids watch clips of you. Not that one. No, not that one. But imagine, imagine if all of a sudden one guy within the organization hates you, okay? And it's sabotaging and bringing me stuff to say that you suck. And you had a meeting with them five years ago and he's, you're for 45 minutes, you're standing there, absolute

Starting point is 01:09:20 disrespect, insult, straight up doing that. Okay. So the company knows Macafee's a stud. The company knows Macafee can bring numbers in, but this guy doesn't. Anyone's to sabotage your success. Yeah. You have beef with him. So for Pat McAfee, though, here's the issue. Guess what Pat?

Starting point is 01:09:40 Why are you surprised? You chose to go to a DEI organization. You chose to go to an ESG organization. You chose to go to an ESG organization. You chose to go to Disney. You chose to go to ESPN. You knew you were going to get this, right? You knew this was going to happen to you. This is not going to happen at Barstool.

Starting point is 01:09:57 This is not going to happen at Spotify. This is not going to happen if you're independently kicking some ass. But it is going to happen if you choose to go to an organization like that. And by the way, this will be just the beginning. It's not gonna get any less, okay? Do not think for a moment, they're not calling them from the top saying, well listen,

Starting point is 01:10:15 you can't ever make a comment like that about Jimmy Kimmelon. You better call him and apologize. Publicly. You think Pat McAfee did that because he didn't call him and tell him you better apologize to Jimmy Kimmelon. Sure, come back in. You know, the most viral tweet of that week You think Pat McAfee did that because he didn't call him and tell him you better apologize to Jimmy Kimmel or Jimmy Kimmel. Come on back. You know, the most viral tweet of that week

Starting point is 01:10:28 with 100 million views, of course you better believe. But you chose to go to, it's like you right now choosing to take your talent and going to- SNL? Not SNL. No. You choosing to take your talent and go to, I'm trying to see a pick one, man.

Starting point is 01:10:45 You choose not Fox noose. You choose and go to MSNBC, okay? Me? But then and you're surprised that people are back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why are you surprised? You're going to say, you won't believe how they're treating me. Vinnie, why are you surprised?

Starting point is 01:10:57 Yeah, you want MSNBC? You went to a place that they know there's only one way of thinking. There can be debate. There can be the scores. It's only their way of thinking. Look, debate there can be the squirts it's only their way of thinking top look espn is dying i'll say it again espn is dying they're not in a growth mode they're in an adjustment mode bob iger was walking around at the alan company conference you know the earlier the main last year where they all get together media confab and he was unable to have any strategic,

Starting point is 01:11:25 we're looking at strategic alternatives translated, we'll simply piece by this bitch off, right? That's what it's all about. And the same thing happened for Zaz who was walking around, you know, saying, hey, do you want to buy a copy watch or CNN? You know, opening up this lapel to display it? Yeah, come on. So here's what's happening. Bureaucrats like this guy are getting points for saving money at ESPN. So everybody's gonna be trying to do it different way.

Starting point is 01:11:58 Everybody's trying to cut costs. Somewhere someone thought it was a good idea to bring them on and to bring ratings and everything. But guess what? Inside corporate America, these aren't founders. These are people with positions. And they're freaking bureaucrats and they're backstabbers and they have individual tribes based on departments.

Starting point is 01:12:17 And so you've got people that want to save money for ESPN and get brownie points with Uncle Bob Iger for doing so. And so they want to cut stuff and they want to cut stuff that doesn't resonate with their political viewpoint. That's what's going on here. You're seeing this parlor game go on at ESPN. That's all it is. And this is what's happening.

Starting point is 01:12:35 And guess what, Norby and all the rest of your exesism? Your boss is trying to sell you. Well, here's the deal. What I know about Pat McAfee, if that guy's wearing sleeves on TV, he means business. Yeah, yeah. Because that guy has never worn a sleeve on TV

Starting point is 01:12:51 in the history of his show. All he wears is cut off T-shirts or wife feeders, okay? That's all he wears. So I think he's trying to step his game up. I think he gave a shout out to our buddy who was at the Soho House party for dressing him up in suits. You know that guy. But Pat, you played in the NFL, you were a sick punter.

Starting point is 01:13:09 Welcome to the big leagues, buddy. You know, it's a different level. You're different, you're diveling with a lot of different accountability, a lot of different personalities when you go from being just an independent podcast type of place to go into ESPN, right? Who owns ESPN? Disney. That's not the big leagues. You don't think ESPN is the bigPN, Disney? That's not the big league. But that's not the big leagues.

Starting point is 01:13:26 You don't think ESPN's the big league? No, it's not the big leagues. Not anymore. No, not to, what's bigger than ESPN? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't know what the hell you're saying. You're saying he wasn't big leagues, and then he goes to ESPN and ESPN is big league,

Starting point is 01:13:42 but they paid him $85 million kids. He was the number one sports show in the world. Correct. He is the big league. Okay. He chose to go to the little league that's dining. What are you talking about? The last thing he needed, FYI, here's a question for you. We fully disagree on it. Here's a question for you.

Starting point is 01:13:58 Here's a question for you. Who need to? Who needs to ESPN needs him? Okay. That's who's the big league? ESPN is. No, it's's not that's still the number one on place for sports. Hat, there were Steven A Smith hosted show that is still the big.

Starting point is 01:14:10 No, it might not be their long term. So we'll lay it off 25 and they're top talent. Wait here, but wait a minute. You have to realize like when you think most people in America have never heard of Pat McAfee before he came to ESPN. No, that's that's sports fan. You did the no shit because Americans never watch the ESPN.

Starting point is 01:14:27 No, no, over the no, but how are you going to convince me that ESPN is not the big leagues? I'm all ears. No, no, no, no, no, no, wait a minute, then wait a minute. This is not you think you've made it when you're at ESPN. You think that's what it is?

Starting point is 01:14:39 Is that the interpretation you have in your mind that you've made it when you're at ESPN? This guy made it way before he was at ESPN. This guy made it at Barstool. This guy made it with his show, with his podcast. ESPN didn't validate who Pat McAfee is. Zero. This is not the big leagues. This is called, you chose to make take money

Starting point is 01:14:58 from people that will control you. That's all that is. But you know that when you go into the door. You know that. But you don't need them. You don't need ESPN. So for example, when you're at ape, when you're somebody, this is not a teleprompter guy.

Starting point is 01:15:16 This is not a guy that... I agree. This is not a guy that is going up to ESPN because he went to the right journalist of school and I was like, I was a freaking pun or tackling people, loud mouth, entertaining, fun party guy, goers and put those, the paid manning. Exactly. He played with a lot of studs and then all of a sudden, what does he do?

Starting point is 01:15:36 He builds a show, he gets big. ESPN is begging for him to go there because they desperately need him. It is not the other way around. You're not, you're not on a, you're not joining an organization that's coming off of back to back to back to back to back championships and you're going on the ride like, hey, I'm on the right Tom Brady's co-tail to win a championship. Uh-uh, ESPN is not that organization. You're going to a place that's been coming off of losses after losses after losses in the recent years,

Starting point is 01:16:05 and you're joining them. When, when you join an organization that's dying, you're going there because they're hoping you save them. You're not going because they're hoping to save you. It's the other way around. This guy's not going there. This isn't like a guy that had a, you know, 20 year career run in the sports,

Starting point is 01:16:23 and then he's going to an organization because they're gonna be like, well, you know, come and play the last two years, you're going to be a great locker room guy and you're going to develop these younger guys. That's what we need from you right now. Now, bro, I'm on my prime. I'm killing it. I'm number one in the world. It's who I am. That's Pat McAfee. You want me? Pay up. But the mistake he made, Pat, which I think is a big mistake he made. He made the mistake, thinking, whoever sold them that there's not gonna be,

Starting point is 01:16:53 you cannot have a Aaron Rogers calling out a guy that forced the entire country to take the vaccine or else and the late night host taking shots at him, that's the mistake he made. He teamed up with the wrong guy. I want you to respond. So if that's the case, which I agree, somebody has to go and ain't going to be Pat McAfee. Who's that other guy?

Starting point is 01:17:15 Who's that other guy that he just called out? That guy has to lead like he can't stay in. He can't stay at a program since 2000. How does that guy stay on? Guys, what are you guys? Look, what did you guys smoke to smoke? I think he's the other gonna get we were hanging out with Elon Pat.

Starting point is 01:17:27 This guy's not gonna, he's not gonna be at ESPN for too long. The guy, no, no, Mac. Oh, Mac if he's contract, whatever it is, he'll write it out. How long is it for? Because here's what you have to ask yourself. Okay, all right, so you ready?

Starting point is 01:17:40 All right, you're in a marriage. Yeah, okay, you're married to somebody. Madamok, let's just say you're dating a girl. Okay. You've been together with her for three years. You love her. Okay? However, she does cocaine every day.

Starting point is 01:17:53 Shit. But you love her. Okay? You ask her, babe, I love you, I want to marry you. But you got to stop with this cocaine thing. She says, if you love me, love me with the cocaine. What are you going to do? One of two people have to change, okay?

Starting point is 01:18:10 Either you have to change and accept the fact that it's okay with her doing cocaine for the rest of your life of being with her because you're crazy about her, or she's got to stop doing cocaine. Do you think she's going to stop doing cocaine? Now, she just told you no. Okay, in this situation, you know who's the cocaine girl? ESPN. Yeah. ESPN is not going to stop doing cocaine. Now, she just told you no. Okay, in this situation, you know who's the cocaine girl? ESPN.

Starting point is 01:18:26 Yeah. ESPN is not gonna stop doing cocaine. I understand the analogy in the reference I'm making to you. So either McAfee's gonna change or ESPN's gonna change. Who do you think's gonna change in this situation? I have an answer. You know what my answer is? Neither.

Starting point is 01:18:43 Neither is going to change. So what does that leave you? Macafe is going to be out. Because yes, being culture is not going to change. What are we talking about? Sage Steel. Do you want me to go through a list of names? Where is Chris Brussard?

Starting point is 01:18:57 Not there. Once the last time he saw Chris Brussard, he was one of my, where is Chris Brussard? Where is all these guys? Where are a lot of these guys? So how many of these guys all of a sudden disappeared? Why did they disappear? What are is all these guys? Where are all these guys? So how many of these guys, all of a sudden disappeared? Why did they disappear? What did they all have in common? Just because politically, they were not willing to just sit there and apologize and kiss

Starting point is 01:19:13 some ass. NB, BLM, be part of this, be part of the like, dude, I don't want to do that. You better take the vaccine. I don't want to do that. Neal. And get the hell out. Yeah. Maccuffee's not going to kneel. This environment, unfortunately, it's not conducive for

Starting point is 01:19:27 a guy like Pat Maccuffee. You know why Joe Rogan was happy with Spotify? They had his back. Because they're like, we don't give a shit. Yeah, do say what you want. We don't give a shit. We don't give a shit. We don't give a shit.

Starting point is 01:19:37 But ESPN and Disney gives a shit. Yeah, they give way too many shit. They give a shit. So there you have it. And when you see what they do, Pat, and you see what they say publicly, and you see what they leak, remember, what they say publicly you see what they leak remember the content they're trying to save costs

Starting point is 01:19:48 they may regret doing it for his his point of view and for the fact that it's an eighty five million dollar albatross how many times we've seen a professional sports like a bad deal is done and two years after the bad deal exhibit a Denver Broncos and Russell Wilson, they were trying to do anything they can to get that albatross off their books. This is the way it works. They may be looking at this and saying, look, he hasn't blown up in double dis ratings. He's not a super duper cash cow, but he's doing really well. Let's get him out of here.

Starting point is 01:20:19 And what Norby may be doing is leaking things because there may be a rating space performance clause that's in the contract. And if you could turn down McAfee, or you could actually cripple in a little bit, you might be able to get the contract off your books. There may be escape clauses in there. Trust me, neither one of these guys are gonna wanna be their wrong term.

Starting point is 01:20:38 It's like a relationship you're in that you know it's not gonna work out long term. Well, this is what happens when you take the money. And with all due respect to Pat, awesome guy, awesome talent. You know, we talk about ESPN being the sinking ship. They're still the biggest ship on the ocean. That's without a doubt. Like, if you think of sports,

Starting point is 01:20:55 name the first broadcast company. When it's when something's sinking, it's sinking. Okay, but they're still the Titanic, right? We all know that we're not. Correct. And they died. Yes, but we all acknowledge that Titanic, right? We all know that we're... That's sunk. Correct. And they died. Yes, but we all acknowledge that that was the biggest ship ever. And they died.

Starting point is 01:21:10 Yes. Okay, and this is why they gave him an 80-sinking size doesn't matter. Okay, well, can I make my points? No, because you're gonna die. But this is what happens when you follow the money. Do you know how much money Mac if he made between 2009 and 2012, being the fucking punter for the Indianapolis Colts?

Starting point is 01:21:28 $1.8 million. For 50 over four years. All right, what's he making for me? SPN, $85 million. Over five years. Over five years is making what, $15, $17 million. That made his show, the guy made his show. His show, the sickest show out there. Yes. Yeah. But then he said, okay, the guy made his show, his show, the sickest show out there.

Starting point is 01:21:46 Yes. Yeah. But then he said, okay, the sick show that I made, let me go cash it in on ESPN. If these Huckleberries want to pay me $85 million, you know what, sign me up. So you must know when you go to ESPN, who's owned by ABC, who's owned by Walt Disney Corporation, you're going to have some accountability right there. And of course, we bring up the Jimmy Kimmel situation, which we can talk about, the comedians.

Starting point is 01:22:11 Where does Jimmy Kimmel do his show? ABC, you know what you're getting into when you walk in the door. I'm sorry. Now I granted, I'll take the frickin' money, the 85 million, but save me the crocodile tears about, oh my God, I can't believe I can't say what I want to say you know that when you sign your eighty five million dollar deal Homey but but you you would take the money I don't think Pat is the guy that would take the money. He took the money. What do you mean?

Starting point is 01:22:35 I don't hear me out what I'm saying to you. No, let me make my point. What I mean by Pat Pat took the money, but Pat is sitting there regretting saying it's not worth the money. It's not worth the money for you to have to change yourself to what he called it to all of us of like for example. Conform what is this and what what's happening with Forbes? Okay. A liberal company buys Forbes and starts flipping the content that fed capitalist and doers and executives to now some virtue signaling D.I. bullshit.

Starting point is 01:23:07 Do I buy Forbes today? No. So what happens to them? They're losing customers because they're not talking to them. So if Pat McAfee goes to Disney, he has a big following that likes his style. And then now he has to change his way that garnered him all this follow-in and then his dream, viewership drops, he's like, oh shit, as a competitor, what happened?

Starting point is 01:23:31 Nothing happened, you just changed. And your audience doesn't like to know you because now you're the ESPN you, the audience like the old you. And ESPN and Disney is not gonna let McAfee just be McAfee. They're not going to do it. Can you imagine if they tell them, hey man, moving forward,

Starting point is 01:23:47 you cannot have any more Aaron Rodgers on your show. You'll be safe, fuck you. Go for it. Go ahead and say it to ESPN. Say it to ESPN. Then resign. Then, then, then you know what? If it takes you going from 450 a year to $17 million a year,

Starting point is 01:24:02 you're gonna have to make some concession. But most people are gonna make those concessions. I'm sorry. No, no, no, what I'm saying is, no, no, no. I, again, we're gonna find out. Yeah. Meaning, we're gonna find out if he's gonna make those concessions or not.

Starting point is 01:24:14 We're gonna see if Pat is gonna be somebody that's gonna be like, okay, I'll become this woke liberal person as long as they can. I don't think he's gonna go that extreme, not whatsoever. But that's why he's naming names. It's not like he's calling out ESPN. It's not like he's calling out ESPN.

Starting point is 01:24:26 It's not like he's calling out his executive producer. He's calling out one person, nor be Williamson, like in Seinfeld set back in the day. No, no, no, no, he named names. No, he didn't just say no, okay, go back to the clip. Rob, go back to the clip. And he said one person, he did not. Nope, nope, nope, go back to the clip you played.

Starting point is 01:24:43 Go back to the clip you played. He did not say one person. He named one name. Nope, he did not just mention one name. Listen to words. Okay. English is not my first language, but listen to what he says fast forward 30 seconds into it.

Starting point is 01:24:59 Go 30, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Try it from right there. Let's see if it's right there. Of what our show is, and then, are we just gonna come back that from a rat every single time? I don't know. Wait.

Starting point is 01:25:12 But like, somebody tried to get ahead of our actual ratings release with wrong numbers, 12 hours beforehand. That's a sabotage attempt. And it's been happening basically this entire season from some people who did not necessarily love the old addition. Wait the Pramak Fee Show to the USBN family. Sure. There's a lot of those. There's a lot of those. That's English to me.

Starting point is 01:25:33 There's a lot of those. Okay. I agree. No, no, it's not. He only said one name. He said, there is a lot of those, but he said one name. It does it. He said, no, no, no, he's he played the clip. He said one name. He's not you and said, he said, no, no, no, no. We played the clip. He said one name. He's not you and he's not you and Adam. He's not talking about one person. What he's saying is there's a lot of those at ESPN. I don't doubt it, but he only said one name.

Starting point is 01:25:53 Of course he's gonna not get 15 names because the other names you don't give a shit about. That's the biggest name. But he named one. No, but he said there is a lot of those. But he didn't say their names. He didn't say their name. We winded five seconds for this guy that had a 4.0 English prop their names. He didn't say their name. He winded five seconds for

Starting point is 01:26:05 this guy. I had a 4.0 GPA in high school. Play the clip, Mr. 4.0. You're going to hear one name. And I hate arguing with him. That's P.V.D. Yes, being sure. I don't have any sure.

Starting point is 01:26:15 Hang on, be quiet. Listen, there's a lot of there's a lot of play again. Right. Can we play the beginning of the play? The play. The beginning of the

Starting point is 01:26:23 game. Please wait. Why do I think we have to hear it one more time at the beginning of the clip go for it. Go ahead buddy Sure There is a lot of It's I got a hijack to show play the clip from the beginning Rob. He said one name Peepy move on you think I have any no Tom let's shut your mouth. One thing. One thing. Let's continue.

Starting point is 01:26:46 ESPN at 98 million subscribers. Now it's 73 in dropping. Unbelievable. This time a year from now the subscriber number will start with a six. This is sent to you. And it's so good. It's so great. ESPN is doing so well.

Starting point is 01:26:57 Disney's trying to sell it to the first person that'll buy it. Tom stop brown nosing pbd, okay. I'm not brown nosing. He's giving you facts, buddy. That's facts. Okay. I'm gonna read the article right. I have to because you won't play the clip because you don't want to prove me right. Play, play, no, no, wait a minute. Prove you right. What you said, he's only talking about one person. I said he only said one name. No, the entire organ is it. Pb, do you realize what's your point to are you saying like one name

Starting point is 01:27:23 versus plural? Yeah. You're saying only one person doesn't like them there. I'm saying there's probably more but why did he say not there? One person there's probably why do I even know this name nor be Williamson right now? You're you're right. I've never heard of Adam. Adam, are you saying there is he didn't say that there's more people at the organization that don't like them? I'm saying he did say okay. No, no, no reason that don't like them. I'm saying he did say, okay, no, no, no.

Starting point is 01:27:45 There's a reason that he said one name. Okay. There's a reason he said, because it's the biggest head executive he's calling out. Okay. But there's a lot of people who don't like him there. And it's not a good feeling when you go to work and you know a lot of people don't like you

Starting point is 01:28:02 and what you're staying for. And that's not sustainable long term. For a person who is a free-frault guy that is proven to the market that he's the best at what he does, okay, ahead of Stephen A. They paid him more than they paid Stephen A. Straight up. Yes, Stephen A does not give Stephen A.

Starting point is 01:28:19 They're about to give Stephen A his contract. Stephen A still only makes $68 million per year, okay, $4 million per year. They pay more. They pay more than they paid Stephen A. has contract. Stephen A. still only makes $68 million per year, okay, $12 million per year. They pay more. They pay more. They pay more than they pay Stephen A. Think about that. So the market is saying,

Starting point is 01:28:31 McAfee is better than Stephen A. getting eyeballs, okay? Stephen A. is gonna get paid though. Stephen A. should get paid, but I mean, I have a whole different opinion with that we're not gonna get into that. Okay, let's go next year. Which, do we want to do with Kimmel stories? Since we were already discussing it?

Starting point is 01:28:45 Do I'm out the late night? We have 20 minutes and I don't want to go. Let's, I will give three minutes to the story and that's it. And you got only 30 seconds on this story. I'm going to come to you last. I'm going to the bathroom. I'm in trouble right now because I'm worried.

Starting point is 01:28:57 No, no, because you go, you're, you're ranting for five minutes and we can't get to the next story. Right. No one else does that. Watchdog finds 81% of all political late night show jokes in 2023 targeted conservatives. A study by media research center found that 81% of all political jokes on major late night comedy shows in 2023 targeted conservatives.

Starting point is 01:29:15 The study analyzed 9500 jokes political jokes from six major late night shows revealing a significant bias against right leaningleaning subjects amongst the analyzed shows. Jimmy Kimmel live, the highest rate of anti-conservative jokes, 88% of its 2,215 political jokes. Damn. Targeting conservative Stephen Colbert's show came in second with 86% out of its 1918 jokes followed by Seth Myers at 84% from his 2445 jokes,

Starting point is 01:29:49 all anti-conservative, the daily show was at 78% of its 277 political jokes, targeting conservative Jimmy Fallon's show had a more even split with 66% of its 1416 political jokes directed at conservatives, James Gordon shows which ran for only four months in the year had 54% of 245 jokes. Go ahead, what are your thoughts on this wonderful story?

Starting point is 01:30:12 Nobody shocked, I haven't listened to late night comedy and forever, there's a reason that Greg Gutfeldt show, who's the least funniest comedian on TV is the number one late night show. There's a reason because when you, when you pander to half the country, it's not a smart business move. Vinnie, you know this.

Starting point is 01:30:31 The whole point of comedy is misdirection. You don't see it coming, okay? When you're predictable and everyone's like, dude, you're a drum dude the other day. So threat democracy, ha ha ha. It's like, we can know it's coming. The whole point of misdirection, how many people come up to you and say, Vinnie, that fight you on an, you an Adam almost got in the bro? So threat democracy, ha ha ha. It's like, we know it's coming. The whole point of misdirection,

Starting point is 01:30:45 how many people come up to you and say, Vinny, that fight you on, you and Adam almost got it, bro. You got me. Cause they actually thought we were gonna fight next thing, you know, we're walking with a birthday cake to the PBD. But if you're just fighting Trump every night and you're predictable, you're no longer funny. They haven't been, my thing is,

Starting point is 01:31:00 they haven't been funny to begin with. At least like David Letterman, you know, it was back and it was forced it was Jay Leno Everybody was fun. They're obviously bought and paid for it's a political activist move all though If you think about it would you ever have thought that these pieces of scum would be having Vaccine dances where they're like hey Shove this experimental drug in you and your kids and your family. And it's an agenda, bro. It's an agenda.

Starting point is 01:31:28 It's not funny. It's unwatchable. And we're seeing it. Like you said, when you sign up for this, these guys all hang out with the same elites. They're all hanging out with Chuck Schumer and all these guys. Look how embarrassing, bro.

Starting point is 01:31:40 Look how these are not comedians. By the way, I'm tired of people using that word loosely. He's not a standup comedian. He's a personality and look at that shitty personality, bro. Bought and sold and sold as people that are trying to make America laugh. And by the way, the audience, they pick up a plus signs and they go,

Starting point is 01:31:58 hey, laugh at this. You have to laugh at this. How do you think about this, Tom? I think it's completely unsurprising and regardless of how these comedians feel they are playing to the narrative of the network that employees and and so that's what i think it is completely unsurprising

Starting point is 01:32:16 american needs equal time america once equal time love or hate fox news it was providing equal time rush limbaugh one of the greatest monologues of his program i remember when he gave similar stats they're saying this on this radio station there's a lot on this radio station

Starting point is 01:32:35 saying this on this radio station and now they want the hush rush act on capital hill i am equal time and it was a bold statement but he was right he says i am equal time. And it was a bold statement, but he was right. He says, I am equal time. You want equal time? Because you don't like people listening to me? I'm outnumbered. I am equal time.

Starting point is 01:32:51 And it's just, this is unsurprising to me. And you know what? I got you. And here's what I would say just to wrap up and transition is this is why you got a lot of data. How awesome is it that data reveals everything? You can get angry as much as you want Mark Cuban at data with DEI, but out of 21 seasons, when Guardian wrote the paper,

Starting point is 01:33:12 15 of those 21 seasons, you led the whitest team in the NBA, and in the last two years you owned the team until you sold us, and I mean, you know, whatever numbers you want to give it, 75% of the time you had the widest team in the NBA, Mr. Mark Cuban claims DEI, then goes and higher is a female black president for the Dallas Mavericks, just to kind of a virtue signal to the marketplace.

Starting point is 01:33:35 Numbers don't favor you. I went into what is that glory already? You know, that lawyer, that's the goat of sexual harassment. Yes, she's the girl. I went in and of you at her, in her office, and she starts saying, are you a bigot? Are you this?

Starting point is 01:33:47 Are you that? I said, how many of your employees here are women? Well, did you see my front desk cloak? Did you see, I said, I looked at all your partners on the wall, they were all men. Do you have any female partners? She changes the subject. For data, sucks.

Starting point is 01:34:00 Data sucks. Data reveals everything. Data shows. Good, bad ugly. Okay, when we sit there and we're like, dude, by the time. Data shows, good, bad, ugly, okay? When we sit there and we're like, dude, by the time I'm like Mario, we've got a, this is a two or three times we've done this. Mario, the last hundred videos we've done,

Starting point is 01:34:13 we're not getting eyeballs, okay? Well, we got a change. The show sucks right now. This was a, you know, three times we went through when we took a break at, you know, 80,000 subs and at 450,000 subs and we took a break at a million subs. I'm like, dude, I'm doing so many different things. I'm running so many different,

Starting point is 01:34:29 I just don't have to bandwidth, but let's take a dream on break. We come back, we improve the show. Data never ever lies. Data tells you the late night, it's all 50% of America can stand the late night's shows and they're just pandering to their audience. It's what they're doing.

Starting point is 01:34:44 And that's why you gotta love data. So that's the best part about what I say. Whatever these guys did, good for them, for taking the time to pull up the stats to see what's going on. Let's go to the next, by the way, within that space with comedy, Joe Koi, his monologue flops.

Starting point is 01:34:59 You know what he says? It was a tough crowd. No, Joe, it's not a tough crowd. You try to please them. You were on a comedian, you were trying to kiss some ass and you were afraid of giving jokes and you know what happens when comedians are owned by the audience and you show fear,

Starting point is 01:35:16 it's over, you lose and it was felt by everybody. Exactly. We have a couple guys, we wanted this guy to come and perform at the event a couple of years ago. Eventually, he didn't work out. We ended up having a... So, the Hashemannascalco, you know, and Woody call it. And we had Kevin Hart.

Starting point is 01:35:32 We had a bunch of different people that have come. But Matt Sopalos, a big fan of Joe Koi. Okay, he says he liked Joe Koi. Great. Because he's Filipino. Because he's Filipino. No problem. But you know what you saw when he saw the monologue?

Starting point is 01:35:44 You were trying to pander to them, you were trying to make sure everybody liked you, and you walked on X-Shelves, Ricky Jervase came in and said, I don't give a shit if you wanna be my friend or not. And he got hundreds of millions of views, the most viral monologue ever. So if you're a comedian,

Starting point is 01:36:00 and you wanna know why the most viewed interview of all year on YouTube, maybe of the last 12 months is a guy named Kat Williams, because Kat came and dropped the bomb on Shayshay Club, Shayshay Podcast with Shannon Sharp. Can you go to the podcast to see how many views Kat Williams got? Go to Kat Williams.

Starting point is 01:36:19 I don't know how many views it's a dick. Who hour and 46 minute pot of which you watch twice, right? Twice. Just go to YouTube and see how many of you, it's a dick. Who hour and 46 minute positive, yeah. Of which you watch twice. I watch twice. Just go to YouTube. Yeah. I just want to see how many views it's got. What's the number right now?

Starting point is 01:36:30 Wait, that's a short. No, that's a short. Go to the fuller. Go over that. I'm telling you, it's like over 30 million. In seven million views. I'm telling you, it's a few. Same.

Starting point is 01:36:40 37 million views in five days. That is. You know why? But by the way, you know why? Because Captain Ingever Shit. Yeah. And if you're out of your comedian, you're going up, they're trying to please the world. You get the kind of ratings that you get.

Starting point is 01:36:52 And first of all, I mean, Joe, Joe Koy, amazing human being, a really good friend. I'm curious, do you think it because of what Ricky Jervais did? Pat, like, shit on everybody. Now they have to see everything that you, they wanna know all your jokes and all your stuff. And you have to agree to him. If they did that to him, you're not a comedian.

Starting point is 01:37:11 I got, so you're saying you should have just been like, no, I'm not gonna do it. If they did that to him, you're not a comedian. Wow. If they did to you, I don't see you as a comedian. I see you as a host, not a comedian. You're a host. If you're worried like when, when, what's his name got up there and,

Starting point is 01:37:28 and Peyton Manning is a better comedian at S.B. than Joe Koy. Peyton's Manning's monologue was 10 times better than Joe Koy's monologue. Peyton Manning got up and said, you know, the women's swim team or Socrates team is doing so good right now that Kevin Durant is asking for a trade.

Starting point is 01:37:43 That's, yeah, he doesn't give a shit. Yeah, and you're like, oh shit. And then he go into the next person and the next person and the next person. That's a comedian. But Joe Koi was afraid to make people feel uncomfortable. Even the joke he took, the shot he took at Taylor Swift, he was hesitant about it. You just don't do that as a comedian. Go, go for it and light it up.

Starting point is 01:38:02 Next story. All right. So here's what we're going to next. The Santas, some politics story here for you. Is the Santas going to drop out of the race on January 15th? Okay? This is the hill. Page 10. Let's see what's going to happen here.

Starting point is 01:38:16 So two well-emformed sources within the DeSantis campaign suggest that the governor, if the governor loses Iowa caucus to former President Donald Trump on January 15, he might drop out of the race that night, or make his announcement the next morning despite campaign denials. Furthermore, these sources speculate that the census may very begrudgingly endorse Trump

Starting point is 01:38:38 for president, follow on a trend of Republican politicians, supporting the clear frontrunner as evidenced by recent endorsement from House Majority Whip, Tom Emma Majority Leader Steve Scalise, and Speaker Mike Johnson, DeSantis, declining poll numbers, coupled with the potential for more endorsements and financial support for Trump,

Starting point is 01:38:57 after Iowa could significantly impact his decision, Adam. Well, look, here's my message to Ron DeSantis. Look, I think it's time for reboot. You gotta get out there, and you know, you gotta get some boots on the ground. You gotta get out there, and you gotta get your people out there. I know that he sort of bootstrapped his campaign, and he basically, he got lobbyists out there doing his thing. But at this point, Trump is not shaking in his boots.

Starting point is 01:39:23 And unless he gives some sort of uplifting message and gets Trump back on his heels, nothing is going to change here for Ron DeSantis. So unfortunately, what's going to happen? Yeah, unfortunately, I think Trump is going to take his boots and he's going to walk all right all over you. So that's my message for Ron DeSantis. I think it's over. I detect a theme here from Adam.

Starting point is 01:39:44 You know, it's a boots are made for walking time. I try to sketch this. They bought him a little bit of a little bit of a look. Look, there's two things happening in every election. The closer you get to the real election, those who are unable to step up, stand taller and mount a challenge, back off and usually break along party lines and support the front runner.

Starting point is 01:40:07 That's usually what happens. And it appears to be that the leaks are coming out. We've tried, we've done all this, but if we really get a whoopin and there's no path to go forward, maybe win the next state, which is the New Hampshire and South Carolina and all that and get into Super Tuesday, then the question is, you know, the New Hampshire and South Carolina and all that and getting the Super Tuesday. Then the question is, comes from everybody, including the RNC, good friend, Rana, what are

Starting point is 01:40:31 we doing with this money? Are we just going to burn this money, trying to fight each other? Are we going to get behind somebody and go in a main election? I think that's what's happening. And also, isn't it interesting that after standing on the sidelines, Washington's major groups are breaking for Trump because these aren't just random guys. House majority whip, Tom Emmer, majority leader, Steve Scalise. Speaker, Mike Johnson, this isn't like three guys from Colorado said, hey, Trump, we've

Starting point is 01:41:03 always been with you, always here. The major sections of the party and its leadership are moving toward the reality of the polls and Trump. And this is swinging. This is swinging on a Supreme Court decision with the arguments February 8th and you're going to get a decision out of that probably two weeks later. Things are obviously things are starting to heat up. Tom, what's that word, right there? there but grudgingly what does that mean he dissent this may vary

Starting point is 01:41:28 but grudgingly and not happy to do so it goes like this if you want the car keys to go out in your date this weekend you will walk in and apologize to your sister so you be grudgingly go into your sister and say I'm sorry yeah so which which would be interesting because I mean we talked about this way back when when this all started, would if he drops out, would Trump consider having this guys advice president, which I think he should have done from the beginning not run. But then this all leads into everything that's heating up everything that's happening right now, Tom, like especially with with Barack Obama.

Starting point is 01:42:00 Did you guys see this? He's starting to panic as well. The article Washington Post said that he grew animated. We all know that that means he's probably cussing and throwing a tantrum in discussing the 2024 election with former president Donald Trump's potential return of power. He raised questions about the structure of Biden's reelection campaign. He discussed the matter directly with Biden and told him that his his aides and allies of the campaign need to be empowered

Starting point is 01:42:25 to make decisions without clearing them with the White House. This is a watch in the polls. You translate that? What's a translate that is Obama talked to Biden. Yep, Biden didn't want to take his vice. Yeah. And then Obama's proxies leaked the story. 1000% and then apparently they had a private lunch, which I'm pretty sure, you know, Joe

Starting point is 01:42:41 Biden had no idea where the hell they were, what they were eating. I think it was, I'm pretty sure the lunch was, hey, this is Obama. Hey, Biden, you're done. You're gonna have to move over each of them of your ice cream and guess what? We're gonna have to make a change. And I think you know what, that change is gonna be, Rajashton predicted it with us almost two years ago. Michelle Obama.

Starting point is 01:43:00 Michelle Obama was on Jay Shetty's podcast. You have that clip, right? Yesterday. And you know what, just to give you guys a little thing, she said, she is Patrick, this is really scary and sad. She has kept the week at night. Yeah, take it easy. With the upcoming election, and she said, I am terrified at what could happen.

Starting point is 01:43:19 So, and guess what, she's going to a run to save democracy. Guys, everybody, this is the warning, This is her pre-presidential. I'm gonna have to save America run. Go ahead, Rob. The things that keep me up, because you don't have control over them. And you wonder, where are people at? Where are we in this?

Starting point is 01:43:39 Where are our hearts? What's gonna happen in this next election? I am terrified about what could possibly happen. Because our leaders matter who we select, who speaks for us, who holds that bully pulpit. Bullie. It put the excess in ways that sometimes I think people take for granted. So notice the timing, notice the timing, right? Biden having a meeting with Obama, Obama's panicking and then she does this.

Starting point is 01:44:06 It's all a set plan. And I'm, because I'm telling you, I'm warning you guys, the Gavin Newsom, Michelle Obama, Presidentsky is scary as shit. And by the way, good old guy, where do you get your heard from Gavin into it? No, guess where he is. You guys don't know him. He's with Bill Clinton in Mexico. They were just spotted together in Mexico.

Starting point is 01:44:23 Guys, we're heating up. What are the chances you think she runs? Now, great question. I want to know, what are the Vegas odds right now? Because we think they want to know your odds. My odds of her running, 75%. Okay. What do you think, Adam?

Starting point is 01:44:37 I'm being genuine. Who do you think the left half have? How about this? Do you want to have a little fun? Well, we already have a bet. Well, let's see if she moved up. Michelle, Michelle moved to 25 and one. Kennedy, I don't believe, well,

Starting point is 01:44:49 what the way of him winning, this is not a great, this is not a great big thought. What? We already have a bet. What's our bet? We have a bet with a Trump, it's gonna go on real good forecast. How much is the bet?

Starting point is 01:45:01 500 bucks. Why, for the election. So you want to put another 500 that Michelle Obama runs? Um, I won't do, I'm about 75% What do you mean? What do you mean? I mean, I'm at 25% you have the odds.

Starting point is 01:45:12 Well, you're gonna, I say I don't think she's wrong. Are you gonna give me odds? Are you gonna give me like three to one for it? It's $500 bet, bro. What are you doing? You can't even do the math. You got to take four to one. Uh, no.

Starting point is 01:45:22 Yeah, four to one I'll take. Why am I gonna go straight up? One of you to us four. Yeah, four to one I'll take. Why am I going to go straight up? But you're one one. Yeah, look at this, look at this. 25 to one. Why am I going to just bet straight up when the Vegas UTS give me four to one?

Starting point is 01:45:33 You just said 25%. No, if you give me four to five. How about this? We'll do it in a start. We'll do it in a 500 dollar bet. Okay. If Michelle runs, I give you a thousand dollars. If she does not run, you just give me 500?

Starting point is 01:45:46 No, that's not, by the way, this is the 25th, I'm not going. By the way, while you guys are going back, you guys can talk about the same thing. What I can tell you is Michelle's 25 to 1, Nusom's 10 to 1. So what this is telling you right now, if they do anything, Nusom's the one

Starting point is 01:46:02 that they have on this list, okay? If they do anything, Nusom's the one that they have on this list, okay? If they do anything, nuisance the one that they have as a favorite to do that. By the way, while you're going through the story, let me kind of go into this next story. Yes, sir. Biden will pull out of the presidential race according to JP Morgan. Not not anybody. This is JP Morgan saying strategist Michael Semberlist predicts. He's a strategist at JP Morgan, that President Joe Biden will withdraw from 2024 presidential

Starting point is 01:46:33 election race between Super Tuesday and November due to his low approval rating of 37% compared to Donald Trump's 59% in terms of handling the economy, as well as concerns about his age with 71% of pollsters considering him two-olds. Michael, the strategist, for CZ is a significant boycott of driverless cars, especially following safety issues. There was some of those, Rob, what does that story have to do with this? The second poll. He's making predictions. I have the list. Oh, that's a couple of other predictions. Yeah, some of those auto power. Rob, what does that story have to do with this? The second part. He's making prediction.

Starting point is 01:47:06 And I have the list. The story. I've got no saying that the presidency is a driverless car. Yeah. No, but by the way, this number is not a small number here. And this is not like a regular guy saying. He's a time-rounder. He's a time-rounder.

Starting point is 01:47:17 And I have, and he compiled the list. They're called the 10 surprises of 2024. And one of them is our dollar and the war in Ukraine. So he theorized Biden would drop out, like you said, Pat, super Tuesday. And then this was all he said. He said the US dollar remains stable. The DOJ and FTC win a big antitrust case.

Starting point is 01:47:37 President Biden would draw us from November, the driverless car backlash is coming. Broadly syndicated loan losses, rise above private credit losses for the first time, Tom. Argentine dollarization, yeah, Argentine dollarization will fail if implemented. Russia invasion of Ukraine drags on with no ceasefire in 2024. That's a prediction.

Starting point is 01:47:58 Yeah, no shit. Despite storm clouds over US regional banks, their stocks will do well, due to retirement of dispatchable power. Here we go, this is leave the world behind shit. Major cities will face electricity outages and or natural gas outages. Outages, and last thing, you ready for this, Rob? I know you're gonna love this one because you're probably waiting in line,

Starting point is 01:48:18 you're on back order, researchers will complete work on an inhaled COVID vaccine. So now if you want poison, you could just, just the hell we're getting a needle, now you can just suck it in your face. Going back to it, all JPMorgan is saying is, what is the obvious? And what, I'm on the same page as Roger Stone

Starting point is 01:48:34 and many other people. It's not like Roger and I are in an island together in this opinion. The delicate, uh oh, hopefully not that eye. That's exactly, I don't know. I would not even refer to the island. He's never used the word island again. Hopefully not that eye. Exactly. I don't know. I would not even refer to the island.

Starting point is 01:48:48 He never used the word island again. He says, go and broke a book by. What did you say? No, I don't know where you're talking about. And then you say an island censorship. So it's anyway, go ahead Tom. So it's, anyway, back to that island, you're hanging out with Roger Stone. So go ahead, Tom.

Starting point is 01:49:04 The super delegate rules are very clear. The Democrats can change their allegiance at the convention. They will do so. Thank you for playing. Here's your lifetime achievement award. And we are voting in someone else, which is also why they're not doing a primary. That's what I'll give you. I'll give you a 10 seconds. I'll give you a 10 seconds. Wait, wait. When is when is July? July is six months. Yeah, but super Tuesdays in March. Yeah, but super Tuesday doesn't matter. There's not going to be a super Tuesday in the Democrat party.

Starting point is 01:49:33 They're not doing primary. So that's you guys before you. We are six months, six months from, we should cover it live, P.B.D. We should have a live coverage of the first night of voting of the DNC because what's going to happen, the super delegates are going to come out, they're going to do this, and there it is. And then we're going to see who they vote for. And right now, 10 to 1 says Newsom. What percentage do you give Michelle Obama? You in patch? If you get that, just a percentage right now, if you just have to guess where you are. I think Newsom's their guy, and even trying to make him look

Starting point is 01:50:02 good for foreign policy and a lot of other things. What about Michelle? Maybe, but I think Newson's are going to know percentage. You don't have a guest. Give me a guest. I think I would say it's probably 70, maybe 30. Newson, Michelle. I'm at 10%. 10% that she does run.

Starting point is 01:50:19 Yeah. She has to save democracy. Hey guy, she can't sleep on that. You don't care about her. Bro, it's an interview. It's just an interview with Jay Shetty. It's not a campaign announcement. Look at the time.

Starting point is 01:50:30 We're giving a little too much credibility to this guy. I know he's smart, Michael Sembalas. You've never heard of him before today. I don't care about him. I'm going back to the, No, I'm saying I'm talking about you never heard about this guy before today. The title of this article should be, should have been, smart guy makes predictions. This ain't JP Morgan, this ain't, this ain't no strategist. It's just a smart guy making makes predictions. This ain't JP Morgan, this ain't no strategist.

Starting point is 01:50:46 It's just a smart guy making 10 predictions. Now do I think he could be right on some stuff, but he could be wrong on some stuff. Sure, but let's not, like the other guy, that just, the other guy, I forget his name, but you remember his name, he's like, the economy, 90% recession. Yeah, fuck you, Harry Den. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, Dent. Shimmy, how are we?

Starting point is 01:51:06 Yeah, way of you all there. Fuck you. Exactly. Sounds like a bad guy in a Batman. Sorry, I classed. Anyway, I gotta go do an appearance on the Pat Mac if you show guys after this. I thought you guys later, man. Oh, man.

Starting point is 01:51:19 All right, so there you have it, guys. A lot of crazy stuff that we just talked about here. By the way, one last thing you're robbing, if you wanna pull it up. Mannex been on fire last week. I am responding a hundred percent of audio on Mannex. We have a contest that we're running. And I wanna publicly announce this contest

Starting point is 01:51:37 and you get to support whoever you wanna help when first. I told Tom, Vinny and Adam, This was about what, two weeks ago, when was this contest, two or three? Right here, right here, right here. I ran a contest with them. I said, whoever gets 500 monex from that day that we had, Tom, can you pull up the number to see where, I think Tom, you have the lead,

Starting point is 01:51:58 then I think it's Adam, then it's Vinny. It's still really, really, really, really, really. I said, whoever gets 500 monects from that day wins a $2,000 suit, custom, whatever you want. We'll go to the store. I'm gonna pick up a brand spanking new suit for you. So, if you love Adam, if you love Vinnie, please, if you love Tom, whoever you love the most,

Starting point is 01:52:19 monect with him. Please monect, download the app, please. Send a message to Vinnie. He will respond back in audio or video, or you can have a 15 minute call with him, or you can ask Tom questions about business, and other things you wanna do, Tom's a blown up with Menec a lot.

Starting point is 01:52:34 I think Tom's only $23 a Menec, where are you at right now for Menec? For a text? For a text. And in Adam, where you at? You're also at, I don't think 25 bucks. 25 bucks on it.

Starting point is 01:52:43 I'm not the cheapest. Come to me. I fly the cheapest come to me. FYI just so everybody knows no one's got more monex than Adam so far. Adam's the only one about 600 monex. So whoever you want to talk to is to go send a message to them. And Tom actually just passed top G. I told the Andrew tape is just so you know Tom just passed you up and we call Tom the top T.

Starting point is 01:53:04 Yes. But more than anything. I know that this is a little contest between us. Yeah. How rewarding is it talking to all these guys out there? And it's so cool. We really enjoy talking to you a lot. Whether you're starting a business, like changing conversations, like changing, whether you're starting a business, whether you're having relationship problems with your literally have a depression, depression, whether you're trying to figure out what you're

Starting point is 01:53:24 trying to do in your career. I know that we have a little contest of who can help the most people, but let's not forget that we're actually helping people. Pros and the problems. It's like business therapy and it's actually at the same time, whoever you want to see when the support them the most. The next time or Adam, take everybody will do the as a tomorrow. We're doing Thursday, right? Thursday we got podcasts. We can take everybody.

Starting point is 01:53:45 Bye bye, bye bye.

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