PBD Podcast - Mike Tyson Reacts To Dylan Mulvaney Being Endorsed By Bud Light | Ep. 269 | Part 2

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David, Mike Tyson and Michael Franzese will discuss: The time Mike Tyson Met a Serial Killer Dylan Mulvaney Being Endorsed By Bud Light How Mike Tyson Became The Greatest of All Time Mike Tyson's Ties to Donald Trump The first time Mike Tyson was knocked out FaceTime or Ask Patrick any questions on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://minnect.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://valuetainment.com/academy/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

30% Did you ever think you would make it? I still have some books I could take sweetest theories I know this life meant for me Yeah, why would you plan on galiah when we got bett David? Value payment, giving values, contagious world On your panors we can't no value that hate And I'd be running home and you look what I've become

I'm the underdog Mike, do you think the Killer Instinct concept I become an entrepreneur. Mike, do you think the killer instinct concept, right? You know, certain people have a killer instinct and you'll see them like you, you know, Celtics beat the Sixers, right? And you've seen all the fans over there. You're seeing all the Sixers fans.

And you're seeing who the Sixers fans, who the Celtics fans are. They're like, these guys are dogs, right? You can tell they're tough guys, right? New York DNA, right? You see certain people are like, there's a can tell they're tough guys, right? New York DNA, right? Do you see certain people like, there's a certain level of toughness and ruggedness and fearlessness, right?

That comes from it. Do you think the killer instinct folks and business and politics and sports, do you think they need a little bit of that craziness experience to go through or not necessarily in all cases? Independent of the consequences that you're willing to accept. What do you mean by that? You know, by having that killer instinct to desire to want and want and want there's repercussions to that.

You know, there's lawsuits, there's people that want to ruin your career. They may want to hurt your family. You know, there's a lot of repercussions that come with being the dog, the beast animal, the universe test you. Did you, did you watch a, are you into movies or no? Do you like kind of have you watched a new movie air the story of Michael Jordan? They keep telling me to look at that. You got to watch it. Been aflick.

No, I watch it. I watch it. I watch it. Have you seen it yet or no? I haven't seen it. So I don't want to go on a war with the bone.. My you got to watch it because there's a scene in the movie Where sunny so we took 60 of our employees here I took 150 of our insurance agents in Dallas and I want to watch it three times in two weeks

It's an incredible movie. There's a scene in the movie where sunny is sitting there talking to Michael Okay, it's when Nike is making the pitch to Michael to come to us and Michael doesn't want to go to Nike, he wants to go to Adidas, he wants to go to all these things. And he's saying, Michael, I'm just going to get right into it. He says, look, no one's going to remember us. They're going to remember you. It's just we're all just people in your life, but long term, here's what's going to happen to you. Here's what America's good at. You're going to go up there, you're going to win. You're going to win a lot of championships, you're going to win MVP's, you're going to do this, you're going to do that. But then the media is going to happen to you. Here's what America's good at. You're gonna go up there, you're gonna win. You're gonna win a lot of championships.

You're gonna win MVP. You're gonna do this, you're gonna do that. But then the media's gonna turn on you. There's gonna be some losses. There's gonna be some setbacks. And while he's explaining this, he shows when his dad dies in the movie. They show when he's losing.

They show when he's in the Chicago white socks and he's missing the ball. They show all of these things where the idea, my dad told me this when I was 16 years old. I said, I said, I want them about America, you know, as an immigrant,

the sky, my dad's wisdoms. You'll meet them today when we're having lunch, you'll meet my dad. So he said, in America, this is what they'll do. He says, if they want to turn you into a hero,

they'll turn you into a hero. But if they want to turn you to see you fall, America loves a fall. But what America even loves more than a fall is redemption and a comeback. It's such an interesting thing about America and what happens to the great one. So, you know, a story like yours when you're talking about the consequences you're willing to face. It's an interesting perspective.

When you think about it, Tom Brady, do you see a killer instinct in a guy like that, right? But he was raised in a guy like that, right? But he was raised in a good family environment, right? If you watch men in the arena, mom, dad, you know, three older sisters, you wonder like, is the killer instinct DNA, is the killer instinct life experiences? Is the killer instinct chosen? Isn't it just an ad you say that? Because we know some athletes, that's number one and probably the best in the world in Europe. They're family the billionaires, but they're family can't buy that spot I'm being the best they can't buy So it's not money to divide the win. It's so it's the individual year. Yeah normally when people desire to win. It's so it's the individual year. Yeah. Normally when people are siblings or people that wealthy, they want to differ. They want to pretty much

I'm spits and they want their own identity. Sometimes they change their names because they want their own identity. They have their own self worth. I want to stay on this too, just ask this question from him. When it became the youngest heavyweight, okay. And we're all watching. Like, oh my God, you know, they called it, Cuscold, these were just, I guess heavyweight, everybody's losing their minds, right?

20, 20 years old, 21 years old, youngest ever heavyweight champion. Did that automatically attract other goats that wanted to be around you, who were the champions? And and if it did which I'm assuming it did because we've seen Bit pictures with you pretty much with everybody Did you notice a similarity between Your why were you're like oh, I see I see Michael. Oh, I see magic. Oh, I see Gretsky. Oh I see Ali oh, I see man

I kind of see a little bit of myself and Very interesting how we have these two, three things in common. Did you see that yourself? Or you weren't looking at it from that lens? No, because I really look at it, not from, I mean, people are made to say, I just think that people from that perspective

it's just ordained by God. That happened like that. And it's not necessarily because we're athletes and detainees. There are people who are pretty much ordained by God to be the greatest businessman, to be the greatest garbage man. It's just a draw from the universe. And we have nothing to do with it, but just putting in the effort. Interesting. So it's a form of a, you know, being chosen

or being called type of a thing. You think that's what it is? Pretty much that thing, because the custody summoned me. You know, I'm a meat, it's all Italian guy. Maybe he was right. Wow. You know Patrick, most guys from the street

that came up the hard way, they fold. Not many guys make it. No. Oh. You know, it's something within you that makes you overcome that. You gotta have a drive, a determination. Because most guys that come up like that, they're gone.

A mentor, a great mentor. I had a good, the best mentor and the plan. I said, nobody could do, just do to me what he could. It's never, no one, he was the greatest. Nobody can make me reach the best. Do you, in your house or your office, or, you know, do you have a picture of him? Absolutely.

What's your favorite picture of you and him? Me hugging him. And after a fight or is it, do you have a picture of him? Absolutely. What's your favorite picture of you and him? Me hugging him. And after a fight or is it, is it? No, yes. What taking a picture? So it's a picture you have that we haven't seen. So it's not a public picture. I'm sure it's the thing.

Got it. That's cool. Which one is it? Do you see it? Is that the one on the right in front of a white building? No, we're out. Go back. I saw it if you could. It that day is that day. No move.

Rob, if you go back, I just you had it. Go back. It's to fart it. Far to the right all the way to the right. Right there. Oh, I think there it is. I want to write there. And he's like, get off me. He hates it. Man, what are you doing? Get off. That's your favorite picture with. Yeah, it's like get off. Stop. He's gonna like intimacy.

He doesn't like that stuff. He's too hard. What do you think about when you see that picture? Um, he was right. I'm gonna go ahead and say, Wow. He was right. Pat, you bring up the Tom Brady thing. Yeah.

Obviously, Tom Brady and Mike Tyson had a complete differing upbringing, not even a question. But one thing they did have was a chip on their shoulders. So you bring up Tom Brady, drafted in the seventh round, 189th pick. You see the picture of when he was drafted. He didn't even look like he was just some frat dude. It's just with a good athlete. Exactly. Right?

So, but a chip on his shoulder you look at MJ The you know as the story goes cut from his high school basketball team holy shit that just basically Wound him up. You turn to you look at Kobe when you interviewed Kobe What happened with Kobe? He was number 40 something on the top Hundred list of high school basketball players boom. He developed a kill list So that's yeah, there's the picture of Tom Brady. Doesn't look like the goat right there, does he? Turned out to be the greatest quarterback to Everlet.

There has to be some, so even with you with business, when he went to the army and they told you that you would never be nothing in your life, your teachers, you got a 1 point A GPA, you developed a chip on your shoulder that said, all right, I'm gonna turn this thing around. So Mike, what was it for you? I completely understand that cost was your motivation, everything that, but you must have had a

chip on your shoulder. What was it that basically inspired you to say, all right, let me turn my life around and make this out? I don't know. I just know this. In order to be a master, you first have to be a fool. And then after that, it works out. You first have to be a fool. Yeah then after that, it works out. You first have to be a fool. Yeah. Okay. What does that mean? Making mistakes, making mistakes and don't get discouraged. It's so easy to get discouraged and give up. Yeah. This is kind of what Mike. Yeah, I've been knocked out before the amt. I had nothing came easy for me. I didn't give up Never like how old were you for somebody got knocked out like actually knocked out. I want a little kid How old I don't know 11 11 years old. Yeah, who was the guy? Oh, he hit me with a bat

Yeah, he was a bat. He don't they don't know our world. He hit me with a bat That's how they do you it's like normal That's how they do it. It's like normal, right? As my fact, the first time I got hit, we have something in common. I got hit with a bat and it broke two of my ribs. See, that's how life is, the hit with bats, and people shoot at us and love you, though.

He just successes getting hit by bat. I got hit by a club. You remember the club in the cars, the clubs you used to put to steering wheels, and it's for a club. I got hit in the club. I was wrong. That's army.

Of 18 years old, Kentucky. I'm like, damn. I thought somebody could hit with that too. Split it too. I broke my nose. I woke up four o'clock in the morning. Is that what happens? That's one of the ways I broke my nose a few times.

We still cars had to break that up. That club was actually was old school way. It's before we had the current stuff. The moms stuff. I'll never forget the story when you guys did the interview at the MGM inside the ring, literally. And you were talking about one of the first times that Mike, I don't know if this was one of the first,

but when you really knew that you had power, you talked about that you fought the kid and then the father showed up. Yeah, and you had to fight the father. Tell us Yeah, you're the fightin' the father. Tell us that, so how old were you when you're fightin' grown men? I'm like 11, 12, but I was big. You know what I mean?

I'm like 11 years old, but I'm on a 275 pounds. At 11? Yeah, 160, so I'm gonna shoot those. So I'm fighting, I don't know if I'm fighting because I'm taking something to take something for him That mostly that happened when you're fighting him in the family So I'm trying to take some maybe it's jacket or it's what some of them trying to take it I'm just I'm tripping like that back then and then I I was fighting with him and I don't know if I snatched this cold off But his father came running down the streets.

And when he was on the floor, his father just came and he started to try to throw, I picked him up, slammed him on the floor. And the kid jumped on me from behind. I kicked the ass, but they kicked my ass too. You know, the father's son duo coming out for a concert. They got me good though.

They got me good. Has that ever been a... became my close friends, still. How did that happen? I don't know, that's what happened. You understand you fight your friends to the deaf and me, try to rob them, and then as time goes on, you guys become friends and you guys rob other people. Right? Absolutely.

Is that what happened with you in a van der Holyfield? You guys are friends now. I think you guys are working in business. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. May I always bust this chapter. I mean, you know, only people still making money from a fight that went 30 years ago. Straight up. That's right. Yeah. How did that friendship develop? Because at one point, you guys were as competitive as enemies as it gets right? We always find, I knew him since I was 17 years old, you know, from the boxing scene. And I had made these ears. Can you pull up the ear company that they launched? Holy bites.

Yes. And show pitch of it, the product, if you can. Rob, Mike Tyson asked you to show a picture buddy. You meant there goes right there. The ear and um they were going off the hook and he was a little offended. He was a little offended at first. And then he and then he's and to help the time. Why are you doing this to be there? He's a little offended. He's sort of profit of it. He's sort of a profit. Hey, I'm with you. Mike bites. Here's like you might have taken 30 over You're listening guys. I can't really ask you a question. What house I

I'm trying to think the word Satanic People so happy. Yeah, you We have savage we live in a country happy. Yeah, you beat him up. Yeah, what the? We have savage. We live in a country of savage, you know that way. Who's the first time I saw it? I'm like, what's the fight? If you watched it, did you watch your fight live or no?

No, I mean, I wasn't there. I was seven years old. Yeah, you're seeing it, you're like, what? You were at the actual fight. I was at the fight, yes. What Mike said in the banderhole. I said, wow.

It was me and Chuck Zito and Stallone, we were all there that night. What, what was the reaction? How long did it take for the audience to know what happened? Oh, it was crazy. Yeah, I don't think, I didn't know it right away would happen. Didn't understand it. But then we were hearing things, you know,

because I was in like the third or fourth row. We were hearing things and then obviously everybody knew after that. But yeah, what happened afterwards, I was with my wife too, and the place went crazy afterwards. I told her we're not leaving here. Just sit here until everybody leaves and everything gets calm down. But that was crazy.

I know the world of Mike is crazy. You said you make $30 million. I think you said this last year sometime in October You made 30 million dollars from this fight just from the bite. Well after I know I made 27 because they took three from me They find it me three look They find you for three million for there you go you said I got fine three million dollars for that Yeah, and I might have made 3030 million since that happened from the bite.

For me, it's the pick, yeah. Yeah. The bite hurt around the world. No, no, no. From just the mic bite, every time I'm taking a signing, and they take a picture of biting people ears all over the world.

I think I picked the bite in my ear. Bite my ear. Bite my ear. Bite my ear. You got, I got, what, what, what, what, hell, dang you guy. Why is the premise, bite my ear. Bite my ear. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what got I got what what what a hell thing you got white supremacy bite my Listen no Taliban bite my

You've made it if it's that listen stop serial killer bite my ear bite my ear listen Let me say this one story. I'm in Phoenix. I'm working on Phoenix, everyone. I'm working out. And it's Ramadan. And I'm not working out, but I'm just doing an interview. And I'm doing an interview with this guy. And I'm talking a little scared. He got very little hands, little white guys with small, little hands. And he's nice.

And some guys were picking on him. And I said, yo, chill, I live alone. You know, I got my Ramadan stuff. I think I'm religious. So I come over, I'm talking on him and I said, yo chill, I live alone. You know, I got my Ramadan stuff, I think I'm religious. So I come over and I'm talking to him and stuff. He's very tiny, particular, thank you. And thank you, sir. And then he said to the interview,

two or three days come by, SWAT has the whole gym surround. I'm like, wow. And like, I went out the night before and I'm saying myself, who else did I grab? Shit, why in squatting here? And that's it. I'm like wow and like I went out the night before and I'm saying myself who else did I grab shit? Why is it right here? And that's it, but did I say hey if I grab some hands it wouldn't be the fans here, right?

So I'm saying what the hell did I do so they come in? And they show picture of me and this guy shaking hands. I'm saying fuck This guy's probably to have a loss because I must have different. I got this guy nervous or something And if you know this guy and I said well listen I was promoting the fight and I must have got little animated and he may have gotten scared if anything happened I'm sorry I didn't mean the in these nets the people back the pitch made no miss the tights And he liked you he didn't like the 20 people he shot in the 8.30 kilt

What why he the baseline shooter. He was a serial killer. He was the end of the boxing right or two. The skinny little white guy. Mike Tyson and serial killer. Check that out. Long really? The skinny little white guy you were describing?

Yeah. Mike Tyson. David Hausner? Yeah. Yeah. Check him out. That little fucker right? Look at his hand.

Look at it. No, I'm serious. Look at know that's I'm looking at his hand He's a little small look. He looks like yes, and then interview some home and say Ty, oh my god. I'm so sad I'm like fucking I'm like, look at this okay, brother the word that was gonna fuck with you Okay, look at they were fucking with him outside, you know me. I said don't worry about it. I got you and I thought it's not happening You know, I'm sorry and he turned out to be a mass murderer? Yeah, he shot 28 or something, but he killed eight. Rob, scroll down and see the story. Find out how many people he killed.

He killed eight by no shot on 20 of 30 month of fuck. And he committed suicide in prison, so I guess that turned out great. He committed suicide in prison. Yeah. So you, again, you've met a lot of a weird count listen With this guy be at the top 29 people he shot 80 murder. What yeah listen listen my life listen I'm most drug these kind of people because I'm I'm in Australia, right and I'm taking pictures with people, right?

And one side of me have to get the picture I got the amian guy right here the big beer picture. I got the alien guy right here, the big beer, and then I got the Taliban guy right here. And it was a little, and that's what it was. My title was local Australian Taliban supporter. And I got the the alien bike ride doing my right on my left. And I saved my people, hey man,

how those people get close to me right there. You know what they said? They bought a ticket. They bought a ticket. That's what you said. That's what they said. Yeah, You know what they said? They bought a ticket. They bought a ticket. That's what you said. That's what they said. That's what they said. They bought a ticket.

I can't say. Well, we were at the UFC fight of Miami and you walked up with Trump and I placed lost their mind when you guys walk. I don't know if you. Hey, listen, Trump is, I don't like people don't like with trump is the man trump is the man he had this fan behavior that is supported and they let us stick with him to the end. How was he been to you over the years? I always

um I never had a bad moment with him. You've never had about him? No. No. No. Did you became very profited from him? Yes, it was just great relationship. When did you guys initially meet? What was the first encounter? It must have been 1920, but I guess I just had dinner with him a week ago. In Mar-a-Lago, where were you? In Mar-a-Lago. How was that?

That was awesome. Me, him, Byron. I mean, Byron is my, if I'm barron and his mother, and it was just off the hook. Barron, he's so smart, the young kid. Barron. Oh, Barron got it. He had it in his other seven feet tall. Now we're not yet.

No, it's a fate. He's six eight. But you know, it was very intelligent. I've hurt a lot of your stories. Man, this kid is, they were trained to take a artistic. This guy, my pop, but it's gained intellectually that at 16 years old 17 17 now got it was Melania there. Yes, you did as well. How was the your interaction with her? What is awesome? Awesome. It's like the president's wife the first lady

You have a similar kind of relationship with the current president Joe Biden. I listen I think I said I didn't have the opportunity to actually meet with the current president Joe Biden. I listen. I think I said I didn't have the opportunity to actually meet President Biden. I briefly met his son, Hunter. And hey, listen, we out here, we're trying to make this the best country we possibly can. And if certain people believe they can do it better.

And that's just what this is all about. Nothing personal. Have you spent just what this is all about, nothing personal. Have you spent time with the governor, Florida, with the Santas? No, I didn't have an opportunity. I met him at maybe a football game. We were in the same booth, I believe, with what they call that again.

A box sweet. A box sweet. Yeah. So you're an East Coast guy and East Coast hip hop. Did you, I've seen stories with you in Tupac, and I've seen you talk about Tupac a lot, and it's emotional stories. Did you ever have any interaction with Biggie or?

I met, this is my first met Biggie when I came back and I fought either with Peter McNally, Peter McNally, or either Frank Bruno and I had a party at my house and he came. Biggie. Yeah, and at the time I was really religious and I was a prick and hey listen, he kissed can't drink for you. Shot the drink down, came in the house

and he was very impressed. He acts I'm with the house cause, and at the time it was 6 million. And that was cool to come back then, but if he were to continue to live, it would have been like buying a candy bar for him. But listen, he was just a cool guy. Then I met him again at Nell's. And he was just a really nice cool guy. How different were he and-pock personality wise. Biggest smooth layback guy, pocketed the real energetic power. He's the personality boom explosive.

But they both feminize too. You know who's the German who? Some, Elvis, Merleman bro Brad Pitt and Lena Jolie John Kennedy their crazy crazy my wife's the Gemini she off I'm a mom we got time to comment because I'm a Gemini you are a criminal wow wow listen listen don't have they they don't let grudges go. Gemini.

No, they need to chill out on grudges. We gotta go through a list of Gemini's you've crossed and say, you know what, I gotta call these seven guys. If they get mad at you, oh God, they wanna kill you. Comedium wise, favorite comedian of all time. You've seen a lot of guys, who do you like the most? Come on, man, so many people are getting mad at me. guys who do you like the most? Come on man so many people are getting mad at me.

I'm from the 80s and I yes personally my personal I like Eddie Murphy. Raw. Yeah. By the way there's other guys listening that's the past and all that stuff but he was different. He was different. He was different. He was different. Eddie Murphy. Yeah.

You know, mostly, I'm, imagine living in a life of a comedian. And you have some bad nights and stuff. And you want to, and it's very easy to be discouraged from being a comedian. Very sensitive people, want to do well overachievers. And they can have, they have a arena of 20,000 people.

And one person won't clap and they focus on that one person. Wow. 20,000 people losing their mind, but the community is looking at that one person and they don't know that the guy's on drugs, tie it, it's fucking. They may start attacking him. No, there is. That 20,000,000 people going crazy.

They see only that one guy that's not clapping. That's your stuff. Is that how you were as a fighter or no, different for fighters? No, it's a little different from fighters. So you, but when I'm gonna stay doing my show, I look like that. Have that. You see that from the show side. I need it all right now quick when you were

Finding was there like that one sports commentator where you're like this mother, you know every single time He never gives him was there anything like that or never there was always people, but I didn't really care You're nothing the people don't say you're the champ thing or nothing You don't have to have the belt for the people to be the champ. The people make you the champion. The really fight everybody fighting and you win. And there's been people that's won and been great champion, but still the people gave all the champion. He's our champion. No question.

You got to have the belt and not he's our champion. Like are you following what's going on with Jamie Foxx? He's not feeling well. If something's going on with... Yeah, it's a stroke. I had no idea what happened to them. Yeah. You pull that up.

Yeah, try to prove your folks. We were at a restaurant a couple months ago in LA. And what was a restaurant to stay here? Remember the restaurant in LA? Anyway. Catch. Yes, yes. And he showed up and looked really good.

And on all of a sudden, you hear the stories about Jamie Valkyrie,. Chicago Real Facility. Hey, listen, we can't anticipate that next breath. We don't know when we're gonna die. After we leave this bad stuff kept happening. Is he still doing the movie or no? Is he still, cause what's in there like stories of him playing your life?

What was the possibility? You know, I don't know what's gonna happen going to happen now, but it's a strong possibility. Because Jamie's close to my age, so in order to do him, they were going to do what they did with Benjamin Button. Remember that? Make him look younger, time to do. They know how to do that. That's a little bit. Has there any been any actual news news on what this medical condition is? I mean, Jimmy Fox is a young, vibrant, healthy guy.

And all of a sudden, don't listen. Um, if we don't know by now, they don't want to stand there. You know what time? Come on, man. Stop. I got to wait. A question for you. A question for you. Um you a mic I had a guy on because for me I have this weird personality where you know I want to know what happened to The Shah won't be escaped Iran and I went to Germany live that a refugee camp So I want to know what the hell happened to Iran, right? I want to know my parents

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Yeah, that painting right, if you want to zoom in, Tupac's to my left, if you zoom in in the bigger one, yeah right there. Anyway, you'll see this here, but two pox, when he passed away, I was so curious, I said, what happened to this guy? Who was behind it? You know, the whole thing with the fight, you know, he's not sure if fight is gonna get to the fight.

I think you guys were supposed to spend some time together. And then I interview Greg Cating, and if you know who Greg Cating is, Greg Cating, are you familiar with Greg Cating? No. Greg Cating, if you can pull up his Wikipedia, Greg Cating is the guy that, he's the guy that was doing the investigation on Tupac.

I remember that. I remember that. Okay, so they had a little, I'm telling you a show about this. Yes, you're right, absolutely. And he was known as the multi-long forcement task force that investigated the murders of rap stars two-part and big you that's the wikipedia story about him right

chisels who was really behind us so in the video when i interview him you know how somebody's trying to rest some like if you've seen a movie american gangster and they got these pictures is this the guy at the top is this the guy so i have fifty different pictures with, and he's putting these things up on. If you go to the video, you'll see how I set it. I put great kidding, but David. And I said, who is really the guy behind it? He says, well, we first thought it was this, then we first thought I was that, and we first

thought it was this, and everything's going then at the end, the conclusion after multiple conversations with him and different people, it came down to Biggie. And to me, there's so many right there, if you can just zoom in, that's the way we had it. So we're kind of going back and forth to see who was behind the guys that killed Biggie, Tupac, Easy. I'm a hip-hop guy, I grew up to all this stuff, with NWA, this is my, like, you know, straight out of

Compton was a movie I watched God knows how many times, because I listened to all of that stuff. I'm an LA kid, so why is it that so many people in music and Hollywood feared this guy, Diddy, as if he's untouchable and even though I'm sure that diddy. Diddy. Not, uh, uh, diddy. Not sure. You said Biggie, but you meant to say Diddy. I meant to say Diddy. Not, not, not Biggie. If you punch in on the picture here, you see, you see Diddy, you see Shug Knight,ug night and then a lot of their cohorts down there but two pocket big at the top as you were pat yes so so what is it I mean everybody is in

there so what is it with diddy that so many ti called them out 50 cents at one time on a Charlemagne God's podcast you know breakfast says club he says one time diddy said hey let me go buy you some clothes Let me take you shop and he's like, well, you want to take me shopping. What are you talking about? So T.I. Called them out 50 call them out, but some people are afraid What do you what do you know about because some people are talking about there's diddy involvement with Jamie and Something happened because he was calling them out for some of the parties. He was putting up It is there anything you have opinions on Diddy?

Have you had any experiences with Diddy? No, I'm just a known for a long time. Got him. And with you, he was chill. He was awesome guy. Yeah. I knew him before he was, Diddy. And I knew for a long time.

When I first became champ, I knew him. I remember him. He used to have crates when he's had my after parties and stuff. Also when they were at throwing parties. I mean, this is when he was the CEO founder of Bad Boy. Well, I don't think it was Bad Boy yet. No, he really had them, Damon Dach, no, this guy they weren't on yet.

I was like the first street guy that really got on. You know, I'm talking about a guy doing crime in the streets that became a television guy and they went to with the celebrity had fantasy cards. I was the first. This is all in Brooklyn. I'm the first of our generation of that crew, the street hustlers that really blew up like that.

You guys all knew each other. Yeah, it's the same era. Listen, this young lady that worked for my company and she started saying name to people I remember when I was 11, 12 years old. And it just, it baffles me that you think you got away from these people. You never see them again. You knew them when you had the worth of your love or heard about them. And you're not the only one God had his hand on. These guys made them a successful tool. And you have to know them and see them

at this level of the game. It's just mind bogging them. It's really, you're almost like proud in a way when you see them, you know what they experienced in life. And now they became respectable citizens. I guess it's a, you know, how you're in a class of 82 or a class of 90, whatever you're all coming up, you kind of seen who made it from your class.

I guess that's how to see it when you're coming up from the streets at the same era. Who else were the guys that during that time that made it big out of all of you? Listen, there were some rappers. There's no people that didn't know about that made it real big. And I feel some rapping but from writing And it's just listen, I come from Brownville Brooklyn very competitive, you know normally either you succeed Probably 60% of the people don't have their high school diploma. It might be more But it's just a school. It's just a neighbor for people that normally fails, just a family. If you don't have sports, you're not a lawyer or whatever, you're not going

to make it, you're not going to do well. You know, it's very competitive, very doggy, dog people who are your friends at one time, nothing you know, they're turned on you. Come over to have something to do something for me, man. Or they go over your house and they kill you and rob your house for your drugs and stuff. These are people you live in the sandbox with. When the drug game, when the drug game, when the... Taco Francis is not over here because... When the drug game started in the early 80s, you know, when I started, the people that you were robbing with, friends with and everything, the next thing you know, you got different

gangs from your shoe. All these gangs, we all grew up together. All the people in his gang, all the people in the gang over here some of them are related and now they kill and kill in each other We're all friends we grew up together with the robin still together go to shop and together with the robin money smoke I weed drinking together When we were kids and next thing you know, I went over to my house after I'm doing good in this boxing stuff Wasn't champion But almost I was making money so somebody gets shot to go to the hospital to see him and then somebody else got killed

So I go to the funeral like to see him But the guy went to the hospital if the guy to keep my friend. I'm going to the funeral for I'm sure you understand I'm at my friend. I'm crying that my friend is in the hospital He's shot and if they know I'm going to my friend's funeral, but he shot my friend It's crazy, right? It's really crazy We were talking with Michael about power players in sports power players in The mob power players and politics and I said who was a power player a mob?

He said chin right then that was a guy that would run everything so you kind of had to run. Vinnie. Vincent chin. Yeah. You got to play like he was crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Look, he's a fighter. Yeah, he was a fighter. He was a good fighter too. Yeah, didn't he kind of confuse what Mike was saying that he was a little bit mentally off like he was crazy and he was trying to fool people. He played it good, he did a good job for a bunch of years. For 30 years.

Making money up his ass. Just, yes, go ahead. But people asked me, I said, Michael, was he really crazy? And I said, well, look, to play crazy for 30 years and get away with it, you got to be a little crazy. Eventually, you become that part, yeah. But he was crazy as a fox. He was very smart. And from what I know about him, he was a money man from the beginning.

That's why Giovanni got him to shoot on Castello. He was he wanted to do it. Yeah. Yeah, very smart guy. Have you ever met Mr. Castello Frank Castello? No, no, no. You know what, but he's the one guy. If I had it, if I had to pick the ultimate mob guy that you want to be,

it would be Frankus Thwyser. Smart, you know. He called him in the prime minister. He knew how to get around people. He had political connections. You know, he ran the, he was brilliant guy. He was a big man. He was a big man.

I don't know if he's a man too. Yeah. That was his mentor. I mean, if you, a movie monster. I don't know if he's a thing. Yeah, he's the old geo OG. Yes, he's the Jewish guy, but he created the concept of the five families, right? Arnold Ross thing that yeah, Ross and and my Lansky too I know they let you Lucha. I know gets the credit for it because he was there

But it was Rothstein and and my L. Two Jewish men. Yeah, they made this into a business, basically. Before that, it was a lot of guys running around killing each other, gang stuff and all that, but they organized it. Yeah, he was. Did you watch the Myrlansky movie?

Did you watch the Riesom other guy? I didn't think it was that good. I wasn't crazy about it. No, I wasn't. It wasn't crazy about it. Yeah. Came out about a year It wasn't crazy about it. Came out about a year and a half ago or something.

Were there power players in Hollywood where when you made it and they're like, we can really use this guy to make a lot of money and they started calling you? Like guys that people don't know. Not guys like people know. Hey listen, I made all my money with my hands. I didn't need anything else.

I did some Pepsi-colder commercials and all that stuff, but all the money I made with my hands, the majority of it. Yeah, no, I mean, a lot of people are in highlight wheels because of you, on the opposite side, because of your hands. It was, and you entertain a lot of us. Hey, I had a great teacher.

Yeah. Great teacher. Yeah, that's no question about this. The second time and the amount of influence cuss has that you always bring back to giving them the credit that you give. The only reason I'm asking the question about power players is in the political world right now,

you're seeing Tucker got fired. And I think you did something with Tucker right? Yeah, it's been a week and we're talking about the young guy. That was great. Yeah. And you're seeing he gets fired. And you see Don Lemon gets fired. And you see all of these things happen. And one is on the left.

One is on the right. I'm trying to see from a guy that's been in this space where there are guys behind closed doors that sometimes call the shots. Did you experience that or was it more, it was more straight up than, you know, of course everyone's heard or read the stories about Don King and what that was like. I'm not talking about Don King. I'm talking people above Don King. Hey listen, woman be my purpose, I'm telling you that.

You know, I don't know. I'm sure somebody else in a high position and no more could tell you more I don't know I've never been to these secret parties. I've been talking about yeah, I don't think I'm allowed They don't let me go, but yeah, I've never been invited. You've never been invited No, I've never been invited to one of those strange parties everyone talks about it Bill Burr was on a Conan or Brian and I don't know if you've seen this one when Bill Burr was on Conan, O'Brien. And I don't know if you've seen this one when Bill Burr is on Conan.

And he says, you know, he says, so, hey, Bill, did you vote? Nah, I didn't vote. I said, I don't know if I voted. I don't know if I voted. He says, yeah, right, you know you voted. I said, I forgot, I think I voted or not. Obviously, Bill is now wanting to say who he voted for.

So what do you think about Trump winning in Hillary Clinton? He says, I gotta tell you, forget about them. He tells the teams that greatest comeback, the miracle, the hockey and all this stuff. I've never seen anybody win the way he wins. He says so, he says, but what was the other person? The other person go to those,

Bill, what are those weird parties they put in San Francisco that the uh... uh... uh... do you know which one i'm talking about rob when bill brittles uh... uh... cowning about the after parties that these higher ups go to says what are you talking about he says you haven't heard of these parties he says no he says like i don't know what i'm talking about man we can just change a

subject and change a subject but uh... it was a it was obviously a funny moment but I guess Mike you've never been invited to those parties so go back to me I'm a quiet taste man you are quiet I respect it go back to the stories on champions corner, with men. I ask you, but I'll ask you Mike to see what you think about it. Criticism gives to, sometimes given to men today, saying men are a lot softer today than they were before. They're not as tough as they were before.

Men are soft today and they give different measure and stakes. How much they bench with their grip strength and this and that and all this stuff showing that based on these markers and men used to be this, they're no longer that. Do you agree with that? And if yes, what do you think's causing that? I think men are smarter now. Maybe not be as tough now because just thinking eighties and seventies, right, it was in your safe thing like this. Now it's cool.

Calm is really not necessary. We do that, my friend. This and that. You're very hard to even get somebody to really fuck you when you cut them off back. And they don't do that anymore. Before like in the 80s and 70s, somebody cut you off. You got to the car mother fucker this and that.

Then he got to the car because you got out of the car. You know, it's not that now. People nowadays that say you or myself getting the call, authentication with, let me call my modern man, okay? You're not gonna fight. The modern man's gonna have a gun or he's gonna have his phone to go right to the police station.

You know, he's not gonna be talking too much or anything, like yelling like we did, that's not going to happen. They are packed now. Everybody, the woman, everybody's packed now. So in a different world altogether, that's why when you see women now, they're very, they're confrontation, they're very confident, they've been through situations

before where they were successful. And it's definitely not having a confrontation with a woman. She's your equal now. She has the equal life. If you think it's not true, you just check Florida, Florida, everybody. Everybody. You don't even have to have a permit now. Right. That's what they call the gun the great equalizer. God made big man, God made small men. Smith and Weston made us equal Have a coach always get to say Smith and Weston made us equal. I Love that. I love that Patrick We put this link up because people that want to get early access to this mentorship program It's called champs early access dot com Michael. It's right there. If you look at it right off there

Champion corner Michael I I mean we didn't really address it because Michael, it's right there. If you look at it, it's right off the right. Champion's corner. That's it. Michael, I mean, we didn't really address it because Michael wasn't in the room yet. But how did this partnership come about, right? Michael friend sees Mike Tyson have a business together. Entrepreneurs, both from the streets of New York that, you know, 40 years later after the initial come up.

How did this all come about? It was a no brain I might yeah, I mean listen, you know, I think we both want to leave a legacy You know, we both went up the hard way we both did the wrong things for a lot of I made so many mistakes in my life I mean I can't even get the count Fortunately was able to straighten it out, you know, and way you're straighten it out, you got good people around you. You got a supportive wife, you got your kids, you know, you don't want to make those mistakes anymore. And you know, for me, I really found out in life, I mean this, you know, I've had just about everything, I've lost everything, I've been up and down. But when I go and

talk to people and they look up to me and I'm able to give them some encouragement, it's the best feeling in the world. You know, when I go and talk to people and they look up to me and I'm able to give them some encouragement, it's the best feeling in the world. When I go speak to these gang bangers, I go into a prison and they'll say, Mike, we're going to give you the guys that are on their way home, they're in the camp and I said, I don't want those guys. I want the guys that are in here doing a hard time. I want to talk to these guys. I'll sit down with them and because I have credibility, like Mike has, we have credibility, we've been there and done that. We see the impact that we down with them. And because I have credibility, like Mike has,

we have credibility. We've been there and done that. We see the impact that we had on them. It really matters. And say, wow, I feel really good about this. To those who have been given much, much is expected in return. And I think even though we've had a lot of hard knocks, we're pretty fortunate.

And so you want to spread it around. And when I'm thinking about this, listen, Mike may be humble in his regard, but he's probably to one of the best known people in the world. Everybody knows Mike Tyson, no matter where you go. So if you want to have maximum impact and really reach out, you know, in whatever time we got left in this life, I said, this is a natural. We both came from Brooklyn. We both understand the streets. And to me it was no brainer. Yeah. What is it being launched? In July. Yeah. Got it. So, right now, people can sign up so the moment it's being launched, they'll be able to get registered, get involved. We're doing early access now, then we're going to cut it off

for a while. So whoever jumps in now will be the first ones in there. And then we're going to cut it off as we're preparing and then we'll launch into life. We're going to launch it here. And I would like to say, I'm a strong exponent and having people on the show defending their whole ideology as well. If we have the bait about somebody, I don't know, and some gender, because that's what they're talking about. We should have them right hand,

and kindly, politely debate about it. You know, everything should be debated, I believe. That's my opinion. We like debates. None of us heard that, I like the debate, but everybody has the chance to believe what they have to say. Present our argument. We see for ourselves.

Exactly. Absolutely. I agree too. That's one of the problems I think we have. Everybody's screaming at each other all the time, but if you can sit down and hear somebody else's side of the story, because sometimes you don't know, but motivates them to do what they do. You know, and it's good to get that out and talk about it.

Is that what's the format going to be? So if somebody is on there, what is the content in the Champions Corner? Well, listen, we're not only into mentoring young people, but personal development, telling people really how to be the best possible person they could be, how to give them business advice, because look, Patrick, you know this better than anybody,

who knows what's going to happen in this country? It's crazy, it's great. You know, a lot of people are struggling out there, really struggling, you know this better than anybody. Who knows what's going to happen in this country? It's crazy. It's got that. You know, a lot of people are struggling out there, really struggling. You know, and and they don't know what to do. So it's not only Mike and I, but we got a team of experts that were putting together so that any situation that you might have, we can hopefully provide the answers for you whether it be in business, whether it be a faith issue, whether it be personal development, you got trouble at home, you don't know how to survive. All of these things look, we're not the end all for everything, but we have enough experience

to really show people this is the right way to go. This is what you should do. And that's what I want to do. People that come through this platform, I'm going to say, you know what, I really got something out of it. I really benefited from it. And they're going and hopefully lead a little better life. Mike, you bring up the concept of faith. I know that you found God, Jesus, while you were in the can.

I believe you also did the same when you... Are you Muslim now? No, I'm not Muslim, but I was Muslim before I went to put it. You are. believe you also did the same when you are you uh... muscle now that's only for one to put your but what role has faith played in your life at this point because you see in america that a client and family to client religion decline in the community service uh... and you know we see that the

that says is all the time that churches should be packed these days you know churches should uh... revive america's greatness what role as religion played in your guy's life and and what are people lacking as they're clinging to politics and political ideology and Wokenessy is some may regard rather than faith in God man, I just believe that I'm on praise be to our life. I just believe God should be your personal

entity. I don't believe God should be you know, that's my opinion. You should have your relationship with God because when is your turn to go in front of God, you're gonna be alone. Judgment day, your homeboy is not gonna be inside your mother, your father, you'll be alone. You know, that's what they say. So you have to have your own personal relationship with God. And anyway, you believe it's possible that's better and help you reach your highest potential. Sometimes they can't do it from a, some people can't deal with religion from a perspective of this is the way it is, from the Bible, from the book. And I don't know, everyone don't get into it from that perspective They want their own personal relationship with Allah saying more spiritual than more structured religion

Yes, but they won't the structure is good as well some people some of us need to structure That's why we have destruction the Quran and the Bible because some people feed on that alone that's their objective And I just think they all have their purpose. All religion has the purpose. And all the religions, for my experience now, came from the, what do you call those people before, before the Egyptians, Sumerians? It's the same, the same religion they have,

it's the same religion, the Bible, some parts of the Quran, molded this is a different name, it's a Gilgamesh, you know, so all religion, you know, I saw this once before and I could be permitted to say I was in Egypt and I'm a Muslim and I saw on the carvings they had statues doing the Muslim prayer the way we pray and I I say, wow, this had this had the influence Islam a lot, you know, the statue. That's that's one just a, you know, like thousands of years old. So we don't know anything about this world. We

as know what we were taught, we have no ideology who we are, where we came from, who our ancestors really were. You know, how about you, Mike? I couldn't have said it better, but you know, personal relationship, that's what it's all about. I mean, you gotta have a, you know, moral foundation. You gotta have something. And to me, it's all about my personal relationship with God.

Now, obviously, you know, I go out and speak and share it, but I feel I'm obligated to do that. But it's like you said, you're going to stand in front of God alone. You're in Him, nobody else. And so often, you get on social media and Patrick, you know, there's people who say this and that and so many crazy people online. And I don't respond to any of that because you do care about what people say. Don't get me wrong.

But at the end of the day, you know, it's you and God alone. And you got to get it straight with him. And I'm pretty heavy on donations too, stuff. A lot of them have that help, they help me. Or everybody, that's just why I realized them, I love you and myself. Even when I give my tips, or when I give tips, though,

it's a good thing. So consciously, I'm trying to buy my way to heaven You know you know it's he art is making buying our way to have all you need this you need to go Okay, and the Jewish religion that's called Sadaka. Yeah, really? Thomas the doctor My two-pock one said only only God could judge me. Yeah Good to see a Muslim a Catholic. I'm not sure that you only an out of the podcast. So Baku guy, but listen, check this out. A man knew we were in no religion. No,

we would be. Yeah, we'll be brothers. If we didn't have no religion, then we just forgot together. We'll be brothers, right? We all have the same belief. We don't believe in God. I was religion, you know, we brother. There's always religion because religion is just an action. Something that's, um, repetition. What we do, we wake up everything, our lifestyle is a religion. Whatever we do, it's the concept of religion. Repetition.

Belief. I can't wait for this to come out for folks to take advantage of Rob. If you can put it in chat, description, and put it in the comment section as well on all of them for people to be able to go to and visit and sign up for it. It's coming out in July, Michael Francie's, and Mike Tyson Champions corner, get registered. So you know once this is being launched to everybody. Mike and Michael and Patrick, we're gonna enlist you too. Yeah, we need them. We need them. We need them. We are intelligent. Some of my, yeah, they're gonna make you an offer. You can't be a mentor. I meant to. That was gonna happen. Big time. We're gonna be debating. We're gonna be

debating. It's gonna be a lot of debates. I'm like, I'm debatement tour. Well it'll be a lot of fun. You guys got the right people behind helping out. It's I'm excited about this. Can you imagine it? Listen, can you imagine having a discussion about gender and we have a a gentleman, a woman of gender right there, and we're debating it, that would be so awesome. Would you want to be a part of that and ask them questions? Why would I want to be a part of it? I would love to see that. I would love to see that. I would love to see what questions you would ask. I would actually be, first of all, I think I would be good. No, why? Because I have a daughter that's in that world. So I think, um, it's in that lifestyle. So I think I would be really good. No, why? Because I have a daughter that's in that world. So I think, um, it's in that

lifestyle. So I think I will be really good. Wow. I will be very objective. Are you following this Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light situation that's basically been a lightning rod for debate? This is what you don't know. Well, I think you know, but this is what we don't want to say. Are we are we fighting these people? Are we fighting these the gender people? I saw him shooting at them. Are we fighting those people? Because if we're fighting them right aren't you fighting them? We're not good fighters because we already lost We already lost he's wasting his bullets. He wasted his air shooting at that commotion in the box kid rock your son. Yeah, we listen they won the fight

already. Did you say that to kid rocks phase because you were with him at that UFC fight with Trump and Dana White you were sitting right next to the computer and shoot that commercial yet. If I would have thought I'd commercial, it was shot and it was, it was, um, it was previewed after the, the next day or next week, right then and there. The next week, right after. Yeah. But if he would, um, talk to me, I would discuss my experience with, um, trying to intervene in that world. And I didn't get a good welcoming, you know, um, I love my daughter. If anybody a sailor, I would attempt to kill them.

And it's just her life, and I'm not going to stop her from living her life. And she's not going to stop me from living my life. But as a father, I'm always there to kill and die for her. As a father. What would you have said to Kid Rock in that regard? I would have let them know he wasted his ammunition. He wasted his ammunition. Really tell me, how do you, how do we, how do we, how do we intervene and stuff like this, unless you do it unlawfully. Lawfully these the gender community pretty much, they won.

Unless you're going to do some illegal stuff like hurting them and stuff, but I ask from just a fair fight, I guess what it is, this ideology against this ideology, that ideology won. What do you mean they won? You see they have commercials, you see they have banisters. That's when you see that, even as a human being, some people, they get our sympathy. There are people, there's small army fighting a big army. Sometimes little armies get symphonies from people

that were a part of this big army. Or maybe some people in this army are siblings and somebody in this big army. Or the leader of the army has a sibling in this army that he loves. That's what I'm talking about. How this, listen, love is going to overcome it all. You know, I'm not going to let nobody hurt my baby because she's, because she wants to

live that life. You know, maybe if I didn't agree with it, I'm not going to let no one hurt my baby. It should solve that. You're almost giving it a David Goliath type metaphor. Yeah. And David won. He really believed me. given at a David Goliath type metaphor. Yeah, and David won. Really believe me, you know some of the powerful people in the world have children in that world that they love.

Why would you bet on Goliath when you got bet David? I heard it, you bet. But that's a deep conversation. And that's, if you guys gonna have stuff like that on there this is gonna be a very interesting thing champion's corner very interesting thing to to give the perspective you gave uh... just even right now the last three minutes that you you and him one back and forth on that topic

mike thank you for coming on michael thank you uh... gang the links below uh... i believe we have a podcast on Thursday or Friday. Tomorrow with Whitney Webb. Yes, with Whitney Webb. We'll be talking every Tuesday. If you're into every Tuesday stories, tomorrow's Whitney Webb, she's written a bunch of books about it.

We'll see you guys tomorrow. Take care everybody. Bye, bye, bye. Bye, guys. Good job. Good job.