PBD Podcast - Myron Gaines Explains Why Men Are Getting Weaker | Ep. 275 | Part 1

Episode Date: May 31, 2023

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We're starting to, you know, start the podcast even sooner that we typically do again. 8.58 today, the usual time we start. We have a lot of topics to go through. I think we're going to have a guy that's going to join us here in a minute. He's, he's fresh and he's fit. Yesterday, I was going to go to a different podcast and Palm Beach called old and out of shape. But then I decided to go to Miami on this podcast called Fresh and Fit.

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Here's what we got. We got a lot of things to talk about here with the debt ceiling that was just they're going back and forth with negotiations. There's six things, six must know provisions. We'll talk about that. DeSantis going after Trump like never before, poll shows dead heat. And Florida, between DeSantis and Trump, Lindsey Graham says,

Russians dying is the best money the U.S. spent. And right afterwards, Russia issues Lindsey Graham arrest warrant after Ukraine comments. There's a poll that just came out that even Jake Tapper couldn't control himself. I don't know if you saw this rap on the Jake Tapper poll when it was announced.

66% of voters say Biden is too old to serve four more years. And this was on CNN when he had to read this. And Jake said, this is horrible. There's nothing good about this. He can't even hold himself. China blows up a US Navy largest warship and menacing simulation. It's about to say stimulation, but it's simulation that they did. Days after Twitter blog, Turkish President Erdogan political opponents from posting on the

site, the increasingly authoritarian leader won re-election after a contested vote, which is devastating to people in Turkey. Elon Musk, Neuralink, Winds, FDA approval for human study of brain implants, Mark Cuban's talking shit about Elon Musk will get into that. Job market, more high school grant for gold college in the hot labor market. And America's biggest source of jobs is Kulanoff will discuss that. Consumer debt is officially 17 trillion for the first time. Streaming services are removing tons of movies and shows. It's not personal, strictly business they say.

And it's more expensive to live and workers are tapping into their 401k for help. That is a New York time story. You know, one's the last but, but light actually sent a tweet out. How long? It's not long. It's not a month since they tweeted anything and somebody out target. There was a bomb threat sent by an angry

pro-pride left-winger. So a lot of people are seeing what's going on there with that and then I was you got a story when I talk about the army veteran take tacos via Rafty details frustrating experience with the V8. So, Tom, let's start off with the economy here, because a person said once before it's the economy, stupid, so we're gonna start off with the economy. Awesome, awesome, great. More high school grad for Gold College in the hot labor market. This is a Wall Street Journal story that we have here. Page 11, if you want to go to it.

So the college enrollment rate at the recent US school, high school graduate has declined to 62% in 2022, from 66.2% in 2019. That's just three years ago. It's more young people opt for blue collar jobs in a strong labor market, job growth in industries like leisure and hospitality, construction, manufacturing and warehousing, which don't require college degrees has outpaced overall job gains, the low unemployment rate for teenage

workers reaching a 70 year low of 9.2% last month has led to significant pay increases, hourly earnings for leisure and hospitality workers rose by nearly 30% from April 2019 to April 2023. Wages are also higher in industries, with additional training requirements like apprenticeship, factors contributing to the declining college enrollments include the high cost of education, college closures, uncertain return on investment,

that's a big one right there, Tom. Uncertain return on investment. And this is Wall Street Journal saying this, that may be the biggest one out of all of them in a lack of confidence in the value of a degree. Many Americans question the worth of a college degree, further discouraged by improvement job prospects in blue collar fields. Tom. Wow, this is a lot. But this is basically, this is one of those stories where you read it, you step back from it and you go, well actually that makes sense. And sort of you saw it coming

but you weren't paying attention. So what's happening right now is there's something that was left out on that summary there. You didn't leave it out padded. It wasn't in the story. And that is that there is a fair to say, it's about 35% of people in this country are conservative and very concerned about the woke things. And you have a lot of parents that are out there that are going to orientations at colleges saying, what the hell am I doing here? Send my kid to be indoctrinated in a woke institution.

So there is also parents stepping back and saying, wow, is the college ROI worth it? I'm about to put, you know, 25 to 40 grand a year in there, put 100 to 160 just to put my kid to a basic school. And that's being met with, hey, wait a minute, you know, my uncle was a plumber and you find out you can make 175,000 dollars a year, I looked up as a journeyman plumber, not after 20 years, after like five years. So the trades are heating up. The blue collar trades

are heating up, giving real alternatives. And the job market on small business on the other side, now small businesses, we're not talking about the plumbers. We're talking about small businesses that are $10 million in sales, that's small compared to large corporate. And what they're seeing is a lot of people coming in and they still want the COVID package. You know, well, you know, you're looking for a lot of bookkeepers, there was a quote from a bookkeeper that said somebody came in, they were looking for 61 bucks an hour to be a bookkeeper and it's like $10 million a company, you think, well, I can't afford that? No, you can't. So from a perspective of what you're talking about here, I think it's important if you're

comfortable talking about this. You made a very big point about the fact that parents are worried about sending their kids to a woke school. The other day, my sister and I were talking to my niece who is wanting to be a lawyer and she's going to school and We're having these conversations about you know the school you're going to you're gonna spend a week there There's gonna be woke experiences there that you have to just kind of be prepared for you just took your daughter one of them Your oldest to go to a different universities if you comfortable giving names do it. I won't do it What was the experience like and how immediately did you see signs of these guys doing the woke thing in university?

Some of the biggest universities in America because your daughter has a 4.6 GPA, so she's only going to the best of universities. Yeah, well, so we did the standard thing. We went on tours and you register online and you can go to on a certain day and they take you on a tour. The first part of the tour is you go into a large room and there'll be somebody from admissions talking and then there's usually like a senior who's there to talk about the school, the experience of the school and to personally say, hey, I majored in this, this is what it's all about. But they also stay with a script that comes from the school itself. And the first topic at a top 15 school that

is located in the heart of what you might call music city. And I think we know who we're talking about here. The colors are black and gold. They basically said, and welcome. You are here for a tour. We're so proud of what we've done here. There's a lot of things going on here. One of the first things we want to let you know is how we're not just inclusive. We're inclusive and also providing services. You can get gender reassignment surgery and support here

at not our health center, but the hospital that's part of the research. That's the first thing. Let me ask you, how many minutes before the orientation started that message was given. That was within the first five minutes. Tell me your joke, Tom. No, I'm not.

I'm not. Now I had a parent in front of me, turns around and looks at me and she makes eye content. Under her breath, you could hear her say, she didn't curse. She was like, starting with this. And then when we, so about 20 minutes, this was a script. This person was going off the script and then said, my name is so-and-so.

I made a name this. Yeah, oh, yeah. And this is, yeah, yeah. Exactly. But he identified his pronouns, too. He said, I go by, you know, I go by, you know. The Thigh, was he Shakespearean pronouns? Because they're in college.

They're in the guy and I sell. So I saw a lot of people that were there. And then, and then we went on a tour and there was a father that was there who said something very, very telling. He says, I understand everybody is going to be here. Just tell me about the university and why this is the place for my kids going to get a fantastic education. So he was not like going off right wing

and going off on somebody. But so you have that going on as well as the inflation intuition and college closures and the on-campus off-campus controversy we had during COVID. Wait, I get the same diploma and I'm not on-campus and I don't have the labs, but I have to pay the same tuition. that story in the la covid that parents were asking

Why am I still paying lab fees and all these other fees of school if it's basically the remote education now because you're saying kids are off campus So now I'm getting like a remote degree like Grand Canyon University I can you know go online and get one of those online's and so what's happening is The high school grads are seeing all this put all this in a and get one of those online. And so what's happening is the high school grads are seeing all this, put all this in a pot of chili and then say, you know, your uncle was a plumber. You can make 175 a year of plumber after five years doing a apprenticeship,

get your license, get a couple trucks, and you can have a great air conditioning pump, the trades. So there's a lot of trade jobs out there and small businesses under 10 million. You know, they aren't going to get you the work from home thing. And so these things are fighting with each other. And you step back from it and you say, I am so surprised. Adam. Yeah, for me, this entire story comes down to one word and that word is disruption. We've seen this in cable news. To me, college is the young

version of cable news. We went over the stats the other day where, how many, five years ago, 10 years ago, 70% of homes had cable in their house. And now it is now 40%. Things have been disrupted, whether it's money and bitcoin, whether it's politics and Trump and outsiders going against the system, whether it's college, whether it's money and Bitcoin, whether it's politics and Trump, and outsiders going against the system, whether it's college, whether it's education, there's no need to go the mainstream traditional route. If you actually look at the numbers in college, in the 1970s, 1980s, 60% of college attendees were men, 40% women.

Now it is completely flipped. Women make up 60% of college attendees and men make up 40% so we talk about this concept of hypergamy and women won't date down That's also becoming an increasingly big problem where women are making more money They're more educated where they won't necessarily date down a blue-collar guy Tom made a great point sometimes You can be a blue-collar guy a plumber make a hundred. Sometimes you can be a blue-collar guy. Plumber, make 150 grand a year. Hell yeah, buddy, make that money. The problem is, what a woman date a plumber. And that's something that men need to consider when they go into college.

Now, for me, college comes down. It depends on the kind of a plumber, don't we? Let's just put it this way. Yeah, that's true. You were saying that. Shout out to Mario. I'm looking up from the conference. But, you'll have to keep calling. You have different options these days that you do. That's your sponsor, Reed, right there. That's exactly right. You do have different options these days that you do, that's your sponsor read right there. That's exactly right. You do have different options these days. Check out my program, maybe. As a man specifically, you can be,

you can get into entrepreneurship, you can get to technical school, you can get to apprenticeship. There's so many different options that didn't exist 20 years ago when this whole, you know, should I go to college, not go to college debate, really started rearing its ugly head. And why did it reared its ugly head? Let's get real here. College has increased what? A thousand percent ROI in the last 20 years

has education increased a thousand percent has increased 10 percent 20 percent as college even taught you more. We all know, I mean, this also comes down to indoctrination versus education. We've highlighted many times that what, one in 11 professors are on the left when it comes to college, is that the number these days? Is it working?

Not in 21, okay, 13 to one. One out of 11, not on the left. No, on the left. No, for every one conservative professor, some say 11, some say 13, but for every conservative professor 11 to 13 are on the left. You're saying the same thing.

I think at the end of the day, and I went to college, I'm glad I went to college, I did the whole college experience, that's great. I'll tell you what, if I just enter the real world at 18th, probably would have made a handful of mistakes, it's sort of easy to have that four-year window of f-ing up and making f-ing f-ing mistakes, which is fine, but at the end of the day,

this is a major decision, but besides getting married and having kids, what's the next biggest decision that a young person has to make? Go into college. I mean, if you're gonna spend a quarter million dollars of student loan debt You need to really think about that at the end of the day this comes down to the bottom line. What's the bottom line? What's the ROI on you going to college now? I don't want to be shitting on college if you can get into an Ivy League school

If you can get into an a grade school if you get to a state school if you get your college paid for you get free To wish and if you get your college paid for, you get free tuition, if you get a scholarship, go for it. But if you're just going to some small liberal arts school, outside of state that you're paying out of state tuition, you're paying 50 grand a year to get some basket weaving education, it's like, what's the ROI on that, Haas? And that's something that you really need to consider. So far, I'm gonna go to the next story.

So far, there's a few things that we got. One disruption which he's talking about. Two is the value the same as it was before. Three, the woke, which is scare and parents out. And four, I'm going to just start making money right and why do I need to go to college? I can make money online, creating content doing this. There's so many different ways to make money. This is all bad signs for colleges and they're not helping themselves as they get woker and woker and woker. And Pat, my question too is about why are they all like bowing down and like letting these,

the whole woke ideology, the whole trend. How is this small minority taking over? And because think about it Pat, they're not stopping. Companies like we've been talking about a Dillent Movement and they try to, but like guess what failed. I am fine. It was happening.

No, it's not the colleges man. It's everybody. No, no, it's not the colleges. You know, you know how we always go back to, you know, who's the they? Yes. Who's the they? Who's the they?

You know all the stuff. We've got the man in the house. Your seats right here. So who's the they? Who's the they? Who's the they? Who's the they? Who's the they? Who the people are here?

Better to power. You want anything? You're good. OK. So that's the day. That's the day. Isn't the college. No.

The day is, colleges need these big endowments to get the monies. So for them that are getting the big endowments, the college money themselves, they have to kind of abide by what they want them to do. And if you don't, you're replaceable. Who got you to job? So think about it.

Who plays you in this university to have that job? That same person that plays you in that university dean, whatever the job is, they can take you out. Your loyalty isn't to the students. Your loyalty isn't to the kids. Loyalty has changed. Loyalty has changed from CEOs of SMP 500 companies

and university deans to students and parents to now funders and where the money is coming from. And if you don't provide loyalty to those guys, you lose your position, your job, your money, all of that stuff. So. And there's one small, not so small small thing the whole concept of student loans they've been able to raise to wishes at astronomical rates and not worry about the consumer path the

consumer is the student right the consumers the student and the second consumer is the parents that are paying the bill for the the student for the student student loans have been there so that they can raise tuition and the college says, just get the student loan and who's backing those loans? The United States government. I still think I'll go into a school, and I know what school that you're talking about,

within the first five minutes, for them to say, hey, listen, we do gender reaffirming surgery, if you have a crotch, we'll chop it up. What are we talking about? By the way, how about the school? So the other day, we went in, we watched this new up. What are we talking about? By the way, how about the school? So the other day we went in, we watched this new movie by Sebastian Manascalca

and Robert De Niro. Okay. How was it? It's freaking funny itself. It's actually a very good movie. Within the first five minutes, a gay couple is getting married. Okay. Within the first five minutes. Tiko looks at me and I took my dad, he's 81 years old.

Okay, and he wants to watch the Neuro movie. Tiko doesn't like this kind of stuff, he wants to leave. So we stay forward dad. Two other times they had the, you know, examples of what happens in their two, touch the, you know, ESG score to be right. So these guys are going out there raising $50 million for a movie like this,

and the guys are saying, we'll give you $50 million as long as your cast is this, this, this, this, that. As long as your script has this, we'll approve it. It's no longer who you think they're loyal to. It's changed. Anyways, let's move on to a different topic. There's one thing since you're a static guy. You got 20 seconds.

There you go. Since you're a static guy, this is something you should consider, some we consider a value-taming. Because we believe so heavily in stats, you've seen the stats where a high school graduate over their lifetime will make a million dollars. A college graduate over their lifetime will make $2 million. A master's degree, BA, and everything with that,

will make $3 million. So that's highlighting the upside of college. They'll kind of be like, yeah, don't worry about the debt stuff. Don't worry about all the nonsense. Don't worry about the gender reaffirming surgery. Don't worry about that. Just follow the money. But if there were stats out there, which I'm sure we can put together on, all right, if you go this route, not the Golan College route, the entrepreneur route, this is how much money you can make, the Elon Musk route, if you will,

the Jeff Bezos route, the Mark Zuckerberg route dropping out of college, that's something that I think should be highlighted more and not pushed to the side. I agree. I want to talk about the most important story in the economy today. Testosterone levels plummeting in young men due to porn consumption as a link to social isolation shows real problem. The sun, young men's social isolation and retreat from society are linked to changing norms and discomfort with redefine masculinity. However, studies indicate that plummeting testosterone levels in young men, possibly influenced by excessive

porn consumption may also contribute to their desire to separate from society. Testosterone levels play crucial role beyond sexual desire, impacting body and facial hair, muscle mass, bone density, fertility, mood, and social anxiety, excessive consumption of pornography associated with low reproductive hormone levels in men which can contribute and reduce testosterone levels, and potential social isolation. Natural way to boost testosterone level include improving sleep quality, getting sunlight exposure, and taking vitamin D supplements, consuming omega-3 fish fatty acids, and engaging in strength training exercises.

Last night, at a great time with these guys at Fresh and Fit with Myron, you guys are freaking amazing. I want you to. Myron. What do you think about this story, masturbation, porn, testosterone level? What do you have to say about that? Yeah, it's a combination of things. And I was actually just writing some notes as you were speaking say about that? Yeah, it's a combination of things

Now I was actually just writing some notes as you were speaking about it I would say there's a couple things that are contributing to this one is women are more successful now than ever before So a lot of guys feel like they can't compete or they can't measure up You got you know an influx of pornography that's huge you can get it for free anywhere anytime on your phone at the you know drop of a hat Video games right become more and immersive, more and more interactive. They've grown in popularity significantly. It's probably one of the most popular ways of entertainment nowadays.

They're beating out movies and television. Then you got obesity, right? Being fat is fairly acceptable in the West nowadays. It's okay to be fat. You also have guys in general that are just lazy. Thanks to technology and everything else that we have nowadays. People aren't as social.

Guys don't feel they need to get out there and get to know women anymore. A lot of guys are socially lazy. Thanks to technology and everything else that we have nowadays. People aren't as social guys don't feel they need to get out there and get to know women anymore. A lot of guys are socially awkward. This is through the rise of social media, dating apps, etc. There's a lot of guys that have issues where they're good looking guys and they're able to get garnered attention from women, but they don't know how to speak or convey themselves properly because they don't have the attic with social skills where they've been speaking to people for a good amount of time and learning. Certain social cues had to themselves properly, because they don't have the attic with social skills where they've been speaking to people for a good amount of time in learning. Certain social cues had to speak properly, cadence speaking from an active voice

versus a passive voice when speaking to a woman because women typically respond very favorably to the active voice versus the passive voice. So all these little things might seem like small little insulated incidents, but if you add them all together, snowballs and crates kind of what we have, what they call it the loss by generation. In general, all of these things plan to, and there's more to, but those are just some

ones I could think of at the time. Tad, from your own, but very insightful, by the way. If you are not familiar with fresh and fit, I'm sure our audience is because we had my run on before, and these guys are about to do a live event this Friday from 6 to 10 p.m. at the 15, 9, 9, 9, a live building. If you want to find that more about the tickets, we're going to put the link below. 15 990 live.com this Friday, Adam Tom, I'm sorry, Adam, a very weird dynamic. To me, a lot of ladies here is going to be a very

different kind of messaging, but you're going to be entertaining. Maybe if you brought Tom that would change the line up. I'm gonna. No fence. I think Walt is. Well, it's won't gonna be there because Walt isn't love. He's gonna be that. I'm gonna drag him away. Yeah. Oh, I do. Oh, wait. Tom, what are your thoughts?

You know, because you're, you and I are from a, you know, different generation. We got three. No, we got two generations here's what we got, right? If we really think about it. Porn back in the days when you were 14, okay. That's VHS, that's kind of stuff that's kind of like, hey dog, what do you got? Jean?

You know what he's doing, almost as if it's on the news versus today. What do you know from like your perspective on how bad porn can be for young boys? Well, first of all, what, Myron's talking about, I was talking about social isolation and we become a socially isolated society.

So I'm gonna touch porn last, but I'm gonna touch this first. I'm gonna touch it all the time, yeah. I'm really glad. Touch it, Tom. I said the word. But what he brought up was video games in the internet itself Makes us more isolationist for entertainment and it's and it's immersive and it's distracting and hours of a session

Go by that leads to us being very sedentary which leads and sedentary life directly leads to like, you know obesity and health issues and with their pointing out not getting outside for vitamin D and sunlight exposure. And there's a couple of great programs that were like the challenge, like 60 day programs. And part of that program is 60 minutes outside, taking a walk around lunch, brisk walk, getting sunlight. So we, all of this is coming together. What Myron just said is dead on.

What's happening, you know, on porn that's even worse is it objectifies women and it perfects women. There's, it's like you're objectifying women by what you're looking at, and then you're only looking at like people who are in amazing shape. And so that also creates this false fantasy only looking at people who are in amazing shape. And so that also creates this false fantasy and leaves men not capable to engage in regular relationships.

The other part I look at, add all of this up, and everything that we up, and look at this. Hey Pat, when you grew up, did you know the names of your neighbors across the street on either side of you? Yes, you did. So did my mom, so did my dad. Today, I have to proactively go meet my neighbors. People usually don't know their neighbors. And it's because the American society,

all of this porn and everything else has made us more isolated people. If you ask someone how many really close friends do you have, do you know that you're neighbor across the street with their situation as do you know your neighbors on either side of you? Would you trust one of them to take care of your dog if you're out of town? We've also become, I mean, interesting what Myron thinks about this, more isolated as a people and a culture and it's negative.

Well, I'll tell you one thing. We've seen the stats out there that men are just becoming more isolated as a people and a culture and it's negative. Well, I'll tell you one thing. We've seen the stats out there that men are just becoming weaker. I think testosterone levels have dropped 1% every year since the 1980s. So in the last 40 years or so, testosterone levels have dropped 40%.

You've highlighted how men can even do as much weightlifting they used to before. So look, rather than highlight all the negatives, we can go down a litany of list of what's going on with men, what can you do to basically increase your testosterone? So, you can do the natural stuff, get the fuck out of the house, work out, get some sunlight, sleep well, eat well, do what you have to do. There's also testosterone supplements that you can actually take TRT, this type of things. We've actually had a recent sponsor called Tercastarone,

that basically helps men increase their testosterone. I think at the end of the day, you have a choice to make as a man. Do you want to kind of go down this feminization of men path, or do you want a man up and become the best version of yourself? And the men, you know, only probably 20% of men are actually going to meet us at that point. And you're right? Yeah. Oh, sorry.

No, that's essentially the end of the day. If you just basically wanna get feminized in this modern femme-centric society, you know, there's plenty of avenues for you for that. But if you wanna listen to the right people, and the right people in your ear, and have the right coaches and leaders and mentors around you, it is possible

to be a man in today's society. And this is something that I kind of get hit on a lot because you know, people always say, oh, my, or you're really critical of women, but I'm like, well, you clearly don't watch the daytime show because I'm even more critical of the men. And what I've said a lot of times is we need

to bring bullying back, right? And I know, oh my God, those are controversial. The reason why I say that is because bullying is a very natural way of letting you know that you're an adequate with peers, right? And if they tell you, hey, you're fat or hey, you're a loser, et cetera. A lot of the self-improvements that I've made, right, throughout my adolescence into my adulthood came from people bullying me and people say, oh, but is

trauma is bad. No, you need that. You need to be snacked in the face sometimes and learn, you're not good enough right now. You need to become better. And the thing is now we have a participation trophy society where just by showing up, you're rewarded. And quite frankly, that's not enough. It's not about just showing up. It's about being consistent and showing up every day and doing it correctly. But we live in this world nowadays

where people quite frankly are soft, right? When I say things like, stop being, I don't know, I don't wanna swear, right? Cause we're in the morning. You know, stop being a pussy, right? They're like, oh, you're a misogynist. You're toxic bro. You're toxic, blah, blah, blah. No, you need men need trauma to grow. They need pussy, right? They're like, oh, you're a misogynist. You're toxic, bro. You're toxic, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah. No, you need men need trauma to grow. They need it, right? I've always said trauma builds men, but it destroys women. And the reason for that is because by the time you're old enough and you want to actually date a woman, et cetera, she's looking for those battle scars. She's looking for you to have that experience. She's looking for you to have beaten that adversity.

She's looking for you to have made yourself into something. The only way you're going to be made into something is by going through something. And, you know, quite frankly, we live in a society now where the guys are just soft. My brother, for example, right? Going back to the college scene that you guys were talking about before.

I was at his graduation last week. I had to take a few days off to go up to Connecticut and, you know, Southern Connecticut State University. That's where he graduated from. And during the speech, right, they were talking about being all inclusive. And oh yeah, it's about, this Connecticut State University, that's where he graduated from. And during the speech, right, they were talking about being all inclusive and oh yeah, it's about, this is a happy harmonious campus and all this other crap.

And I'm like, damn, I graduated college, you know, 2013 about 10 years ago at a Northeastern and they were starting to get woke back then. But now it's on a whole other level and not only that college campuses have become more and more expensive, right? When I went to Northeastern around 40k, I think it's probably like closer to 50 to 70k

nowadays. So you got all these things working in tandem to quite frankly make men weak, right? We have this soft ass society where we're not telling them that they need to actually go out there and achieve and become somebody. And then we also have the video games, the obesity, the mediocrity being socially accepted. Oh, it's okay. You're fine the way that you are. No, it's fucking not okay. The only people that are accepted,

however they come are women. Not men, you must become a somebody as a man. I think that's why our podcast becomes so popular because we're telling guys, there is a burden of performance. You have to go out there and do something. Being fat is unacceptable. Being stupid is unacceptable.

Beaty mediocre, mediocre is unacceptable. You can't be saved like a woman can for being pretty. You must get out there and become a fucking somebody, but the problem is that we don't bully the guys enough. We don't tell them that they're losers. We don't tell them that they're fat. We don't tell them that they're stupid. We need to go back to letting people know

that they're an addict and then they'll go ahead and mess around. You know, it's wild that he's saying that somebody could be listening to this insane. What kind of a freaking message is that? I grew up bullying and this, this, that, but I will tell you you know I over the years running a sales team I recruit a lot of young men and young women okay and we we help them become agents Shina Sao Paulo who right now you know they they do very well for them so they make a

couple million here and their business does around 40 million, 30 million year. Okay. She played sports, she played softball, she played softball for college and she just got inducted to the Hall of Fame of her high school in Sacramento. Oh, right. Sheena. Yeah. And you know, it's crazy. You, I can sit down with her and give her feedback and challenger. She takes it.

She has no problem. Okay. I can give feedback to guys that are in a military, they can take it, no problem. But if I notice the guys that I have the hardest time with giving feedback, guess what, they never play sports. And it's so wild, I know the names, obviously I will not say it, but God forbid if you give those guys feedback,

they're so hurt by it. That's not the way that works with me. That's not the way that this works for me. I want the feedback to be this way. I don't, okay, totally fine. But the reality of it is, that guy missed that on the opportunity to be coached under somebody that kicked the rest.

Get off your ass, run for it, let's go. Like I saw Dylan was playing for this baseball team and their coach was like, eight years old. It's like, what are you guys doing? Get out there. I want you to try harder. You guys are being sloppy. What are you guys doing on the past? Your teammates hitting cure. Pay attention to the guy. And this one guy was a former player. And I'm watching saying,

wow, you just put him in check like this. Well, if you do that for three, four, five years, and then eventually, you know what you think it is? You think that's normal? So when somebody later on, it's like, I'm not offended by it, you see my coach back in the days, years ago, there's concepts about being around intimidating, tough environments like this, toughens you up. And if you stand up,

so I think you got a very good point there. It happens in business all the time by the way. Well Pat, do you guys think it's like happening intentionally, like there's a concerted effort, alpha males, they're trying to get rid of them. Liquid happens with, Tay and everybody, like, people like you, they don't want people like us that are alphas out there. Like, it's almost like something is happening to make us soft.

Cause like, well, if let's just say aliens wanted to come attack, you know, you have to get rid of the strong, feral, crazy attacking men. Cause we are getting soft as shit, bro. Like America is just, it's just, cause now feelings are more important than anything else. Like you said, I know what people are thinking about the bullying,

but you need a little, like a push. If I say somebody's morbidly obese, there was a girl that couldn't walk through the aisle in an airplane, that's what she said. We come, remember we talking about Adam? And you know, she was like, this is discrimination against me. They should give me an extra,

she's like, you know, make the planes bigger. Like I want a big, huge, big ass plank. So it's like, I feel like, do you feel like my, like, are they doing it? It's, is there a power that's behind this to make us all really, really soft? Well, yeah, when you, when you emasculate the men, well, then you can take over because the thing is with men

is that, you know, since the beginning of time, me and Andrea have had talks about this. Like the beginning of time men are prepared to fight to defend their belief systems women are not right there's a reason why they would kill off the men and take the women and the children and the prisoners and you know they're doing that now but they're doing it much more diligently right and if you look at this kind of goes into other things as well if you look at you know now when we have wars with other countries or whatever we're not going into actual physical confrontation with them like World War II. No, what are we doing?

We're doing proxy wars. We're doing what we're doing right now where you're creating Russia. We're sending in spies. We're collecting information on other countries. We're getting classified information given to us or whatever, stealing information, stealing secrets. So, everything is kind of done serotonously now. And destroying the men is also being done right now

because if you destroy the strong men who's going to question and stop you because guys like ask ask questions we talked about this yesterday on our show and questions are annoying for the authorities. So anytime you're able to question or push back or rebel that's an issue for them. I'll say one more thing because I fully agree with the Boolean component. Yeah, I played sports my whole life played college football, basketball, the whole deal. There's, you know, talk about locker room talk. Yeah. Nothing is as vicious as a 12th grade high school locker room.

Oh my God. If you ain't up to par. And, you know, if I look back at the coaches I've had in my life, the coaches who were the guy that you're like, fuck this guy, but I hate those teams always did the best. 100%. Because he demanded accountability. And some guys don't want that,

but at some point you need to get in line. Last point, talk about bullying, that's peer to peer. I also think there are lack of male role models these days. We talk about single parent households, something that's plaguing America, the welfare state relying on the government. Yesterday before the FreshFit podcast, I actually was taking care of my nephew,

10-year-old guy, we're playing football. This kid is the king of excuses. Every time I throw him the ball, all the delays hit, my high dropped it. All the sun got my, at one point I got, I said, shut the F up, either catch the ball or, my high dropped it. All the sun got my, at one point I got, I said, shut the F up, either catch the ball or say my bad. That's it.

You're allowed two words, my bad or catch the ball. And you saw. That's it. I'm telling you. And I mean, I trained him like a coach. I'm not, like I spend, you know, maybe a day a week with him and we spend an hour playing football. And you know the most amazing thing, you're talking like a coach. I'm not like I spend, you know, maybe a day a week with him and we spend an hour playing football.

And you know the most amazing thing, you're talking about a kid who plays YouTube, video games, a kid. He goes, this is better than any video gamer, any YouTube video. I loved it. I go, that's right kid. And I was hard as hell on the kid.

I said, catch the ball or just say my bad. Don't say anything else. To be fair, he's actually not accustomed to that style at all. So that's a shocker when it happens the first time, so kudos to him for reacting the way he did and not running crying about it. Yeah, no, I mean, I do coach him from time to time. This isn't the first time,

but I just was fed up with the excuses. But this talks about what do you call it, the trophy culture, the participation trophy. Yeah, exactly. I could have just been like, hey, man, I about, you know, what do you call it, the trophy culture? Yeah, the participation trophy. Yeah, exactly. I could have just been like, hey, man, I'm happy you're out here trying to catch the ball. Catch the goddamn ball, Randy Moss. I earned Sharper and I have vivid memories in my childhood.

I grew up with, with Jordan Reed, he played for the 49ers and his brother David, and he ended up, yep, exactly. I remember. I grew up with them in New Brant, Connecticut, and I remember as a kid getting bullied all the time because David was a little bit older than us. Jordan was around my age. We used to play them in basketball.

Pick up basketball and they'd always used to beat us. Play football, baseball, play all these sports. And we always used to get smoked by the older kids, but it incentivized us to wake up early, go to the basketball court, practice in the morning, train, get better, et cetera, because Iron Sharpen's iron, we're going to beat them. They keep talking smack. And we eventually did beat them in one pickup game and then lost to the others. But the get better, et cetera, because Iron Sharpen's iron, we're going to beat them. They keep talking smack. And we eventually did beat them in one pick up game and then lost the other side.

But the point is, you remember that one. And motivated us. It really motivated us to get out there and be better. And I don't think young men have that same stimuli that they used to have before. You don't even see kids outside playing anymore at the basketball courts or going outside doing anything. They're more concerned with, you know, subscribing to Only Fans and whacking off the corner playing video games, et cetera. We have the fattest kids we've ever had. Kids aren't outside doing anything. They're more concerned with, you know, subscribing to only fans and whacking off to porn or playing video games, et cetera.

We have the fattest kids we've ever had. Kids aren't outside playing sports, and I think sports are honestly, nowadays, if you're a parent, you need to enroll your kids in something, whether I don't care if it's music, sports, whatever it is, because they learn discipline from that, they learn how to deal with other people, they learn teamwork, they understand

that there's a chain of command with a coach. You learn so many life lessons from participating in sports that it's insurmountable, do you not gonna get those type of life lessons and anything else, and you learn how to not be a bitch? I wanna tell you a story. My dad in the house has one trophy. Okay, that he kept since I was 14.

Do you know the story or no? No, I can't wait. So I was 14 years old, he's kept this one trophy. So I'm like, listen, why did you keep this trophy? He says, it reminds me of what happened at one night, an echo park in LA. So if you don't know Echo Park, Echo Park wasn't the safest area in the 90s,

it's like it's a terrible place actually in the 90s. So I'm playing in this league, it's a troubled teenagers league called the Century City Basketball Association, something like that, okay? And one day we're playing against these other guys. Four of our players don't show up. We only have five.

And we're playing against guys. It's the other group. It's blood, crib. We got diamond. Anyways, we said the other guy, helicopter show up shooting was a pretty bad day. But that game, we lost by a hundred and one pass. You know what I love about that game?

We scored six points. I'll never forget exactly how many points I scored game ever. It's the highest score. Trust me, that's the highlight for me of the bank. Oh my God. So we lost by a hundred and one points. And there was a small little, you know,

they give the bigger trophy for the guys that when they give us a smaller, then I that kept it. He says, it's to show this game, the way you lost to keep you humble for the rest of your life, how bad you guys get your asses whooped by these guys. It was phenomenal. We laugh about it till today, but it's right. You need those types of moments to keep your humble in life and in business.

If you don't, a follow's coming around. We need to bring that trophy and put it right here on the, uh, the man trophy. That trophy's one of the most important. One more thing I want to say to about why sports and activities are so important for especially for guys in their adolescent years. Women too is because it keeps you away from doing stupid things. I can't tell you how many times I was offered we'd grow up as a kid or hey you want to go drink or you want to do some stupid and I always said no why because I have to go play basketball. Or when I was in college I was

the vision when athlete I was a rower. That kept me away from doing a lot of stupid things. I never smoked weed in my life. Didn't drink like that in college, didn't party like that because I knew I had to be up at five o'clock in the morning and train on Charles River. So sports creates discipline which then forces you to not be involved in a lot of stupid things that can get you jammed up. You know what's so crazy that you say that?

So all throughout high school, I was that dude. That was like, I don't drink, I don't do drugs, I'm that guy, like no, I'm an athlete, football, basketball, all county, the whole deal, get to college. And all my football player teammates are like, we're going out drinking, we're party and smoke this, try this, I was like, this is the antithesis of what I was looking for, guys.

But you are right, that college does keep you out of trouble. How many guys that get inducted into a hall of fame that say, thank God for my mom, for enrolling me in sports. If not, I would have been gang banging out here. It kept me away from a lot of stupidity growing up and in New Brank, Connecticut, which isn't the best place to grow up, right? It was a 50% dropout rate in New Brank high school.

And then going into college, that kept me away from like, you know, partying and doing a bunch of stupid stuff. And I was just focused on sports and it just kept me focused. My run, I went to, I went to New Brune high too, and I'm the hurricanes. Oh, shit. I'm from the youngest, but I was raised in the brunt. Nice.

I was raised for the young, are you joking? I swear to God, we were born in Yonkers, we were serious. We moved, my father got a job in Connecticut. I'm a New Brunt in high school 1996, I graduated from New Brunt of League We moved my father got a job at Connecticut. I'm a new Brent high school 1996 I graduated. Oh, we got a talk. Yeah, that is banana. Well, all high school when you said new Brent I go, who knows about hard hit and new Brent? Yeah, hard, hard, hard, hard, and new Brent. And back to new bridge sets out here, not a good neighborhood. Drive my Miguel de Hesu's was shot my dad I'll never forget my run my father dropped this off in front of the school

Seven seven something in the morning. As he's driving off, this guy was a Latin king, standing in front of the school. He just got back from a suspension, car pulls up, shoots him dead in front of us. They drive, that's the school that we went to. We had one day off and they bought us right back into that school.

Yeah, because, brand, people think Connecticut is like soft, but the thing is that all the, most of the money in Connecticut is concentrated in the South Southwest to go into New York City Yeah, but if you go into Central Connecticut or Northern Connecticut, it's not so nice. You think of especially Hartford County Think of Connecticut. You think of Pennford country. Yeah, that's what you get. Grand Country Just from Connecticut, but like Bridgeport and New Haven and brought all we have to talk out the wrong. Yeah, it's

Let's talk let's talk economy. Consumer debt pass a 17 trillion for the first time. Despite slight in mortgage demand, this is a CNBC story. I'm gonna read two stories together because they have a lot to do with each other. So 17 trillion dollars, increasing by nearly $150 billion. The first quarter of 2023,

despite the decline in mortgage demand, total indebtedness rose by $2.9 trillion since pre-pandemic levels in 2019. New mortgage orientations, including refinancing, hit the lowest levels since 2014 with a significant increase, decrease of 35% compared to the previous quarter that the client in-home loans can be attributed to higher interest rates, which reach around 6.4% following multiple rate increases by central banks. The mortgage refinance in boom fuel by lower interest rates has come to an end, CMBC. However, its impact will be felt for years, years. We're talking years on top of the board.

You're for years. Myron, they love the way I speak. You're so, you know, with millions of homeowners having refinanced their mortgages during the pandemic period, despite rising interest rates, mortgages were closer to remain low. The liquidity rates are going to come. This leads to the other one. It's more expensive to live, and workers are tapping into the 401k's New York time story. Americans are increasing tapping over the time, Americans cause of living and finance experts warned that the number

of workers, making hardship withdrawals from their 401k could rise as people struggle with insufficient short term savings and face unexpected expenses. Tom, thoughts on these two stories? Expenses top thoughts on these two stores. Well, it's it's a simple it's a simple tragedy We cover the story here One week ago that credit card debt had just touched one trillion dollars That's just revolving credit card debt and it was a bounce up from about 800 in middle of pandemic and the stimulus checks had actually taken that down to about 720. So it moved almost $300 billion just credit card debt. And what is happening here is no one wants to talk about it. You can spin the economy and say, you know, Joe Biden's

doing a great job. Look at all this check box, check box, check box. What's the reality? People inflation is killing people and they are, they run their credit cards up to a trillion dollars worth. Total consumer debt now passed a 17 trillion for the first time, even though mortgage demand is down, why is mortgage demand down? Because mortgage right now, I think it's 6.87%. This morning, if you wanted a 30 year fixed mortgage on a half a million dollar house

and you've got solid credit. It's almost 7%. So you're getting squeezed. So what do you turn to? If you don't have a credit card and you're getting toward the limit, what do you turn to? You turn to your 401k and check this out. I disagreed with this when it happened, but buried in that story from the New York Times is the Secure 2.0 Act. The Secure 2.0 Act, you know what it did?

This is your government doing this. They want people to be dependent on the government. They do not want financial independence. Secure 2.0 Act, it allows people to make a withdrawal that they call is a security withdrawal or a financial hardship withdrawal. They're making it easier for people in their 40s and 50s to tap into the 401k because the government knows what's going on they can know what's going on with the with the credit cards this shows you just how bad things are right now

because people say well what did they do before what did they do before why are they doing 401k's now you know what people with homes used to get a HELOC. What can't you do now if interest rates are almost 7%, add 2% is points for a HELOC, right Pat? That's a little bit more for the second mortgage for the HELOC. Well, that makes a HELOC 9%. If you've got equity and you can do it, and they can't. The bank looks at it and says, I'm sorry, you're kind of maxed out here.

I can't give you another 50 grand on a credit line. He locked that you're going to use for living expenses. So what this is showing is just how tough it is on the American middle class right now. It's tougher than tough. I think there's two parts of this story. There's the macro and the micro. The macro, I actually don't give a shit. I'll tell you why.

Every year we see that these numbers get inflated and inflated. I remember back in 2008 during the economic crisis, what was the bailout? 800 billion. There was nothing with the word T in it. Nothing with the word charlion. That's right, tarp. There's not meaning, there was,

the first stimulus, 2.4 billion, sorry, 2.4 trillion, the CARES Act, and then there was multiple stimulus checks, trillion. We've seen the US debt go from 10, 15, 20, or what, $31 trillion inflation rising. These macro numbers are just going to get larger and larger and larger and larger. And that's something just we need to understand and get comfortable with. Not saying I'm happy about it, not saying anyone should be, but that's the reality that we're in today. We're now working with trillions no longer.

But it used to be cool to be a millionaire. Millionaire, who gives a shit about that. Now you're a billionaire, Billionaire. I know a couple billionaires. Now we're talking about Elon Musk and becoming a trillionaire. We're now in trillionaire territory, guys. Billionaire ain't cool anymore.

Millionaire is like broke boy at this point, and you need to understand that. As far as the micro goes, we've seen that over since COVID, something that we've all learned the terminology, the K-shaped economy, the rich have gotten richer and the poor have gotten poor, which one are you? Because if you're in the middle class,

if you ain't improving, you're digressing. So, I feel bad for the middle class for sure. Times are not easy, inflation has been a mess. Consumer price index has been tough to deal with Vinnie does videos on the price of eggs He instead of buying his girl an engagement bring you bought her a fucking egg and she love On Vinnie, but it just at the end of the day this comes down to personal caliburity personal finance and and and handling what you got to handle as a man Is there any like oh?

It's what time we hear all these facts, and I mean, we're not in government, so we don't really know, but how can we, what, what can they do to like, stop this? Like, to slow the shit down, or like, the government, or, you know, like, is it the presidency, or like, cause obviously it didn't, it wasn't happening years ago. It's happening hardcore now, Pat, what's the,

why is it going like that, so bad, and people broke a shit? Am I letting the phone one day? But, but like what could they be doing different? You need a bad ass S.O.B. Who's gonna say listen you you the people the populace Yeah, I can like what I have to say that's what I want to hear We need to do some control damage to this country right now That's what I want to hear Unfortunately, that is is not a winning message. Well, unfortunately, you wanna keep piling on the debt

and they've all done it. Of course. Of course. Obama, Trump, Biden, they all can get the blame. They all can get it. You need a badass SOB who looks like the rock, talks like the rock, but doesn't necessarily act like the rock. But that comes in and says,

we need to clean up our act. So I saw Adam, let's just say Trump comes in. Let's say Trump wins a nomination. He comes in and he wins. What is he gonna do? What would he, what do you think he'll be? He'll be a track record.

He's already put on $5 trillion of debt to the economy. So he wouldn't do shit. So he wouldn't do any. I don't not saying what he'll do a second term, but I'm saying based on his first. But every time you say that, give the disclaimer, that's during COVID relief when it was a shit show. And nobody had a clue what to do.

So when you're explaining that, it's important to put things into the... See how they Joe Biden put a post that no one in the history of mankind has created more jobs than him. Which is bullshit. Which is bullshit. But that's also bullshit. So we have to call out the bullshit. And on all sides, I get what you're saying.

What I will say to you from my standpoint is, he's right, we've talked about this many times. The right things to campaign on today are unfortunately not winnable. Okay, to get out there and give the message of, here's what we need, do you need to go to the, I'm just gonna go, no, do you have to give me free stuff? You're not, why am I gonna vote for you?

I'm not gonna vote for you. Like this whole debt ceiling negotiation, they're having right now, we're going to the story next is they're negotiating about how much money they can spend. Like just think about it, how much money they can spend. And one side is saying, let's spend less. The other side is saying, no, we got to spend more, right? Okay.

The other part also in this thing here is the fact that as an individual, the more independent people there is, the less they want the debt ceiling to be raised. The more independent earners there is, the less they rely on somebody to take care of them financially. Think about who is voting for more entitlement programs. Actually, think about, do you need entit Actually think about do you need entitlement programs? Do you need entitlement programs?

Do I need entitlement programs? Do we need entitlement programs now? Who with a job needs entitlement programs? Actually think about that question. Who who is taking care of their family, their wives, their kids, their husbands, their responsibilities, who wants entitlement programs? The only people that want entitlement programs is what?

The people that are not wanting to do the leg work, not wanting to go out there and improve, not wanting to get a new skill set. So as long as they increase, everybody's trying to increase their subscribership, the left, they need to increase the amount of people that need entitlement programs. The people that need entitlement programs. The more people need entitlement programs, the more relevant the Democratic Party will

be. The more people increase that don't need entitlement programs, people are going to want to wake up and say, I'm sorry, step aside guys, you don't need to solve my problems. I got it. You don't need to take care of my financial responsibilities. That's on me. So, but that's going to take 20 years to fix. And it's going to take that philosophy staying on point.

Today, we're living at a time where it's like, well, look at Rishda, guys. Look at Rishda, look at Rishda, look at Rishda. It's so confusing where they want people relying on the government. And they've done such a good job at recruiting so many people on tight-ermen programs. It's very hard. The moment you start giving things away to people for free, like this is the one thing we talked about on the podcast.

I don't know if you remember that one book, a toxic, what's the name of the book? Toxic charity. Do you remember when we talked about toxic charity? We talked. The toxic charity, there's five things, right? Five phases of toxic charity, when you give. You give ones, you elicit appreciation.

You give twice, you elicit appreciation. You give twice, you create anticipation. You give three times, you create expectation. Okay? You give a four-time, it becomes entitlement. The fifth time you establish dependency and I would add a sixth thing, the moment you stop giving, you become an enemy. So one more time, you give once, you elicit appreciation. Hey man, thank you so much for that. That was great. You don't have to. You give a second time. Oh, okay, cool. So it's kind of like you're going to do it again. I'm anticipating you give a third time. It's expectation. Where is it? You give a

four time. Now you're entitled. Here, let's go. You give a fifth time. You establish dependency and you stop doing it. You're an enemy. So imagine if the political party that says, Hey guys, moving forward, we're not gonna give anything. You're the number one NME. Other people. To the entitled people. I don't want to say this too real quick,

speaking from the home side, because as you guys, your audience may or may not know, I'm a real estate investor. I have four properties down here in Florida and another nine up in Connecticut. And yeah, I mean, I remember buying houses back in like 2020-2021, I was getting interest rates at like the threes, the fours, and I was like, wow, this is awesome. And, you know, it was a bidding war.

I was competing with everyone. I was competing with the investors. People trying to buy a home, first time home buyers, et cetera. Now, interest rates for an investor are closer to 8%, at 6.4 if you want to buy a home, if you want to buy as your primary residence, but if you want to buy as an investor, you're getting, you know, mid-7s, 8% interest rate, even a good credit.

So now, it's worked out good for me because now I don't have as many competitors. But going back to what you guys said, who does this hurt mostly? The middle class, because now it's not, it doesn't make sense for them to buy a house, because it's too guy-dem expensive with interest rates. So, I mean, do I see the interest rates coming down? They're fluctuating quite a bit or whatever, and there's ways around that maybe you can get an adjustable rate mortgage or you could buy points at closing, which is gonna be costly.

But regardless, it definitely has ostracized the middle class, where only pretty much investors are the only ones that can buy a home now. So if you're an investor, it's a great time to get in because you don't have to compete with as many people. But yeah, the interest rates are more than doubled. That's why you see BlackRock buying up everything. Exactly, they're buying up all the single family homes.

Can you pull up that entitlement thing and one more time? Yeah, it has a right up to do. Okay, guys, it has a right up there. Okay, got it. He has a right up there. It's so funny, because that's politically that you're talking about. But this is applicable in any phase of life.

So we all know that I used to be in the night life world and I still do that. It's so funny, because there's this like, I'll give one quick anecdote. A buddy of mine is a big night life promoter, one of the biggest in Miami. He's going back and forth on social media, arguing with a woman, Myron Shocker, one of the biggest in Miami, he's going back and forth on social media, arguing with a woman,

Myron Shocker, alert her. Yeah, probably. And so I was there the night that it happened, and basically the story goes like this. She had to wait in line to get into a club, one of the biggest clubs in Miami live for a half hour, okay? The club was packed, sold out, and he lets her in free every single time.

Her and her girls, they drink free. You know, we talk about number one appreciation. Hey, thanks for letting me in. All my friends really appreciate you. Thank you. Anticipation, hey, we're coming. We'll see you soon. Got you.

All good. No worries. Expectation. Hey, I'm here. I'm in line. Where are you? Hey, I'm coming to get you. All right. Cool entitlement. Hey, where are my free drinks? Dependency I'm in line. Where are you? That they're posting each other's stories in online and he lights he's like at the end of the day Sorry if I curse listen bitch. I don't owe you anything. Yeah. anything. I've been letting you and your friends come in for free, drink for free for years. And now you want to come in and act all entitled to the club.

Sorry, baby girl, you need to wait. At few, this and that, he's like, all right, well, best of luck out there. But that is a real life story of entitled mentality. Good for him, I say good for him for standing up and saying no, go figure it out for yourself. There is, listen, think about the most annoying people in your life, okay, or when we've been annoying, because we've also been annoying at times,

whether you were eight years old, nine years old, 13 years old, we've all been part of that annoying camp, or we've been part of the camp where people have annoyed you. Think about who is the most annoying people in your life that drain the best energy out of you go to those two or three people You know exactly who those people are right? You're there. The spoiled ones. Okay, so let's just say spoiled ones Number one is what spoiled who else are the most annoying people that suck the best Energy now is complaining. They're never happy

Clifles them everything I got spoiled, complainers, complainers. Victims who else? Ungrateful. Ungrateful who else? Rob Garcoulos. Leaches. What are leaches? What would you say, my man?

I mean, I don't want to sound like an asshole. This is Myron Gaines' opinion only, not the rest of, P.B.D. podcast, but this is a lot of modern day women behave this way. And when you were mentioning the club situation in my head, I was thinking about, right, right. This is why I say being a gentleman, right? People get controversial take here. I've always said, you know, most girls don't deserve severe, severe anymore and women

killed shivery. And the reason why is because it used to be women appreciated nice guys. But nowadays, if you're a nice guy, as you look that as weak and they're going to punish you for it. So, shivery nowadays is supposed to be earned from women, but guys make the mistake and come in as a nice guy thinking, oh yeah, let me go this route and she's gonna like me.

It doesn't work that way because women are so, how do I say this? They're, they don't appreciate nice, genuine, gestures ferment anymore, you know what I mean? It's, get all the talk. It's expected nowadays. Thanks to the internet. It's simps, it's simps, have fucked it it up for everybody. So thanks to the internet, thanks to social

media, thanks to all this other stuff. It's basically made women feel as though I am superior to the average guy. An average woman doesn't think that an average guy is on her level. She thinks I deserve a guy that's at least three, four, five points above myself, even though I'm only a five on the sexual market scale. But the reason for that is going back perfectly with the steps that you mentioned, with appreciation, anticipation, expectation, entitlement, dependent, and then if you don't give it to them, let's say you do take a girl on a date

and she doesn't reciprocate that attraction, you say you know what, we're gonna split this bill, she's gonna look at you as an enemy. Why? Because there's this preconceived notion that you as the guy needs to bow down to her. I got in an argument recently with a girl. So hang on a second, let's go through it.

So we got victimhood, we got spoiled. We got complainers. We got ungrateful. We got leachers. We got modern-day women. We got entitled. What have we solved before right now? Exactly. We got bitter question of the most annoying people that suck the best energy out of. Nagers. Nagers. Liberals. Liberals. But if you say liberal, a lot of liberals will be a lot of these qualities, right? So then you got what? Crap magnets.

Okay. So crap magnets. Okay. You know what's the best question here to ask with the following? Here's a question. Which side produces more of these? Okay, those who lean on the government to take care of them or those who are

independently taking care of their families. So how did that happen? Then you know what happens with there? Okay, if the left views the Americans kids as their kids because this is a village. We're living in a village America, right? Whatever you call it. It takes a village too. Yeah, yeah, we just do, oh, it's not your kids.

It's our kids. Yeah. It's our kids, right? So, so, hey, almost second. So, so if that's the case, then who gets judged for the kind of kids they raise? The left is. You know what kind of people you're raising?

Looters, victim mentality, spoiled, complainers, ungrateful, leachers, modern day women crap magnet, would you say liberals, entitled bit or nackers. Your philosophies are producing these types of people. These types of people. What's the philosophy on the other side? Lemme alone. Let me do my thing. Let me live my life.

Whether it's a libertarian, whether it's an independent, anything from center to the right, it's just lemme alone. Lemme live the life that I want to live. So the judgment comes on what? That policies produce these types of people. These types of people. These types of people ruin a nation. The ability to want to change these types of people

takes a decade, Vinnie, in many instances. They don't even know it, a lot of them cannot be saved. They won't be saved. We're having a conversation yesterday about words, right, the power in words, where it's like, hey, be careful saying that, because that statement doesn't have a lot of weight behind it, right? The power in words, where you're like, hey, be careful saying that, because that statement doesn't have a lot of weight behind it, right? When certain men talk to have weight behind their words,

when certain people talk, they don't have weight behind their words. These guys don't have weight behind their words. Their words is what, it's not fair. That's a weak statement. It's not fair. It's not this, it's not that. Those are all weak phrases.

No leader says it's not fair. No one dependent person says it's not that. Those are all weak phrases. No leader says it's not fair. No independent person says it's not fair. If we simply gauged the weight of words being used by the left and the right, the level of weakness of the weak words being used, they would be at the top. And this side is going to be more on this side. You know, at the bottom, they would lose an amount of weak words to be used. So philosophically, if we're talking about the sole conversation around,

what can we do to really change this, like you're asking a question? That's a two-day-kid problem, because the population of, we act on like victims and everything goes the other person's fault that population keeps increasing.