PBD Podcast - New Jersey Drones, Luigi Magione's 90-Day Mystery, Alex Jones InfoWars Win | PBD Podcast | Ep. 520

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover the mysterious drones over New Jersey, Luigi Magione missing for 90-days before the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian... Thompson, and Alex Jones InfoWars win over The Onion. 🎄 VT CHRISTMAS COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4gk4yff 🧥THE NEW VT SWEATSHIRTS & HOODIES: https://bit.ly/4f5fnAM 🧢 PURCHASE THE NEW VT HATS: https://bit.ly/3ZFAPrH 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! SUBSCRIBE TO: ‪@VALUETAINMENT‬ ‪@ValuetainmentComedy‬ ‪@theunusualsuspectspodcast‬ ‪@bizdocpodcast‬ ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:56 I'm the one. All right, folks, if you're ready, we got a lot of stuff going on today. By the way, Zuckerberg, who came out and wrote a letter to Honorable Chairman Jim Jordan about the 400 million dollars He helped out and how Biden and all those guys came out and he shouldn't done that it was on him You know who he just gave a million dollars to for his inauguration party for no Trump. Are you serious? Did you hear about this? No, just this morning news came out. Yes. We got a few other things that's going on
Starting point is 00:01:24 That's interesting. You got a few other things that's going on that's interesting. You got for those in Jersey, you know how many people from Jersey told me they're actually concerned like what is going on with these drones? What is it? Is it Iran? Is it FBI? We're asking the FBI, they're like we don't know what it is. How do you not know what it is, right?
Starting point is 00:01:40 They know. Simultaneously, Chris Ray decides to step down before being fired, which is a pretty wise move for your resume. When you write the book, you get to say what? I resign. I resign. Yeah, I resign. Yeah, I do that.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Wise move two, three weeks away when you're saying something like that. Mel Gibson was at Mar-a-Lago, the new White House of the East Coast, hanging out saying a few different words. And we'll play a couple of clips when that happens. You'll see it here shortly. Trump's going to ring the New York Stock Exchange opening bell in the time person of the year. I ask Mark Benioff, can we change it back to man of the year?
Starting point is 00:02:12 I don't care if you do woman of the year or man of the year, what is this person of the year? Just doesn't sound right. By the way, Elon Musk, this poor guy, man, you just crossed 400 billion dollars. Net worth, yeah, 600 away from a trillion. I told you guys It'll take two to four years for him to be a first trillionaire. He's at 400 billion, right?
Starting point is 00:02:30 Imagine how many 400 400 billion it just brought 400 billion. They want to use to be just not though It's not but so they say the Saudi royal family is actually a trillion, right? That's right, but the family is not an individual Who's already right right right so 50s These are Adams friends that we never but 50 cents trolls Jay-z and diddy with AI generated arrest video after the child rape lawsuit 50 also made comments about Luigi He made a comment saying this is my kind of a guy you won't understand it I may do a documentary on him and
Starting point is 00:03:06 He came out in another clip yesterday that went viral screaming at people I don't know if you saw that or not and what do you know? We'll show we'll show the clip and we'll talk about it can't wait the famous twin realtor brothers arrested and it's sexual assault allegations and The mugshot doesn't look good. It just doesn't look good. We'll talk about that as well Few other things that's going on at the same time Trump a new name for Justin Trudeau is Officially out there and it's going viral. He's calling Justin Trudeau governor Trudeau He wants Canada to be a state money and you heard way and Justin Trudeau said something yesterday
Starting point is 00:03:40 What do you say when he was talking about the wheat the woman president? I'll play He's just he's just he doesn't know what to do with him yesterday when he was talking about the woman president. I'll play the clip. He doesn't know what to do with himself. Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon says Trump's very pro-growth agenda to boost deal making. That's good. Deal making can be translated into IPOs, raising money, a lot of different things, which is good. More than 75 Nobel laureates Earth Senate to ready
Starting point is 00:04:06 reject RFK jr. We're trying to find out if these 75 are related to the 51 Secret Service intelligence agents that said there's nothing in that laptop. Yeah, well, who knows we'll find out Borders are Tom Homan warns the oppose mourns that opposing ice as a result. You don't want Biden Trump's tax and tariffs plans are a major mistake. US Treasury turns frozen Russian assets into $20 billion loan for who? Ukraine. Wait till you see KJP talk about $50 billion. I thought she said instead of $20 billion.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Rob, if I'm not mistaken, did she say $50 billion yesterday instead of $20 billion? I don't know why I thought I saw $50 billion. She said, instead of 20 billion, Rob, if I'm not mistaken, did she say 50 is yesterday instead of 20? I don't know why I thought I saw 50. But we'll show that on top of that, that 20 is going to Ukraine. Iran's getting another $10 billion in sanctions relief days after Trump's one election. What a noble thing for Biden to do to give another $10 billion to Iran. And we got a bunch of stories on the UnitedHealthcare CEO. Phil Mickelson issues the golfer. Praise to Daniel Penny in Random
Starting point is 00:05:06 Thoughts Twitter post. CNN panel goes off the rails after Scott Jennings calls Daniel Penny one of the good guys. Ron DeSantis invites Daniel Penny to Florida to get his life back. We'll talk about the drones. Joey Reid from MSNBC says conservatism itself Justifies ready of violence. They elected the Joker Well, so does looting joy So let's talk joy less read her name is joy less read trump is sending a message to support us to use Violence and commit crimes and this is from MSNBC's vans We talked about Ray stepping down There's an article here from SF gates and Francisco gate America's obsession with California failing MSNBC's Vans, we talk about Ray stepping down.
Starting point is 00:05:45 There's an article here from SFGate, San Francisco Gate, America's obsession with California failing. California failing. Transpedophile, okay, flashes penis after being moved to women's prison. By the way, and this was Tom's choice. He wanted to react to the story. We're gonna go to Tom, Tom actually wanted to show you the video, we said no. You can't take a weapon into prison. Yeah was Tom's choice. He wanted to react to the story. We're gonna go to Tom.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Tom actually wanted to show you the video. We said no. You can't take a weapon into prison. Yeah, that's right. Whatever it is. It's called a shiv. Yeah. CDC warning drug 100 times more potent than fentanyl
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Starting point is 00:08:59 Future looks bright combined with Merry Christmas. Okay, alright so let's go into the first story. Rob, can we pull up these clips with these drones? I really want to find out what's going on with these drones. A congressman even came up and he commented on it. But first Rob, let's show, okay go for it. You can play this clip. Matter of fact, let me just read a little bit about it and then we'll go to these stories
Starting point is 00:09:21 that we have. You know, folks in Jersey, they're like're like Pat I'm seeing this stuff and people are actually worried. Is this Iran? Is this us? How the hell does our own government not know what it is? So New Jersey Senator John Bramnick, is that the video you have Rob? I have Jeff Van Drew. Okay so let me read this one here. Issue the press release urging the state to issue a limited state of emergency banning all drones until the public receives an explanation regarding these multiple sightings following reports of large drones flying over President-elect Trump's Bedminster golf course.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Give me a flip and break. You think that's accidental? And near military research sites in New Jersey, Governor Phil Murphy noted 49 reports of drone Sunday alone acknowledging that some could be possible sightings and potentially the same drone being reported more than once. White House Press Secretary Corrine Jean-Pierre stated, we are certainly aware, the president is aware, so we are closely tracking the activity and coordinating closely with relevant agencies, including DHS and FBI to continue investigate these sightings
Starting point is 00:10:26 Incidents she confirmed the drones are not foreign How do you know that by the way if you know it's not foreign then what is it? But she said she did not have anything else to share regarding the investigation if you want to play the clip Rob with the reaction of this Senator I think it's a congressman that had an insider share something with them. Go ahead Rob play this clip to congressman that uh... had an insider share something with them go head rob played his clip iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones
Starting point is 00:10:51 that mothership is off the uh... i'm gonna tell you the deal it's off the east coast of the united states of america they've launched drones is everything that we can see or hear and again these are from high sources i don't say this lightly now you know we know there was a probability it could have been our own government. We know it's not our own government because they would have let us know. It could have been some really glorified hobbyist or hobbyists that were doing something unbelievable. They don't have the technology.
Starting point is 00:11:20 But let's pretend that's possible. The third possibility was somebody, an adversarial country, doing this. Know that Iran made a deal with China to purchase drones, motherships and technology in order to go forward. The sources I have are good. They can't reveal who they are because they are speaking to me in confidentiality. These drones should be shot down, whether it was some crazy hobbyist that we can't imagine or whether it is Iran, and I think it very possibly could
Starting point is 00:11:52 be, they should be shot down. We are not getting the full deal and the military is on alert with this. Vinny. Look, okay, so, and Rob's from Jersey, I'm pretty sure he's heard some stuff. I have some friends and I have some families on the East Coast. The fact that the FBI and the lady from the Pentagon went up there too, and they have no idea
Starting point is 00:12:13 what the hell is going on. They're all lost. Here is a congressman that's involved with transportation and aviation. He sits on these committees and he's saying that his people are saying that they know it's Iran and it's off of our coast. Okay?
Starting point is 00:12:25 My thing is, why the hell are they lying? Or if they're that incompetent, what is the FBI and our intelligence community doing all day? What? If it doesn't have to do with Trump, I feel bad in my heart of hearts, they don't give a shit. I guarantee you if one of these drones had a sticker of Trump's face, they'd shoot them all down and they'd put them in jail. It's just unbelievable. If you saw that video, Tommy, have you seen this one? It's...
Starting point is 00:12:47 Rob played this clip. What would you do if you saw this in your neighborhood? It's just like Darth Vader's ship flying sideways, doesn't it? Listen, listen. That's not a plane. What the hell is that? Things come to those who plan ahead. Family vacay? Reserve your ride as soon as you book your flights. To all the planners, now you can reserve your Uber ride up to 90 days in advance.
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Starting point is 00:13:37 it, a guy from Jersey put his own drone up into the sky to try to get near one of them, fully charged, totally like a really good drone. Eww, battery's done and it fell down. Be quiet. I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious. So it's either they think that we're stupid and we're not, something's going on and let's not pretend like this hasn't been going on. The spy balloons from China literally went from one side of our country to the other
Starting point is 00:13:59 and they're like, yeah, no, they're just weather balloons. They're lying. And think about this, there's 39 days left to this election. If it's Iran, and I don't trust anybody that's in our government, who knows what the hell they're doing? We still have a bunch of dates. Iran is our enemy, right? That's what the media is telling us.
Starting point is 00:14:15 How can they let this happen? How could she sit up here? This is the Pentagon, girl, and we don't know the information. What are we talking about? What are we talking about? The first thing, you brought up the balloon. Great point to bring up because the balloons floating on there our Government knew about it Biden didn't do it about it. And then finally finally finally finally we shot one down, right?
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yeah, fine. Oh after after it crossed over the whole country So it's like there's something going on or somebody is given a wink and letting it do it The next thing is if this is Iran, why are you testing during why are you using your drones over in New Jersey? Why wouldn't she be like over, you know, Quantico or places that you want to check out? Or is this just a test? And if it is a test, why haven't we responded to it? You know, we Pat and I grew up in California and there's these four cities, Lancaster, Barstow, Mojave and California city. You know what they have in common? A lot of sightings that they think are UFOs, but would
Starting point is 00:15:06 you like to know what is exactly in the middle of California city to hatchet P Mojave Barstow and Lancaster? What Edwards Air Force base? It's us. Yeah. And people would talk about seeing bat like planes that didn't show up on civil radar. You know what they were? They were F 22 stealths. So we were testing stuff five years before we even saw it. So I know that we do test and do things like this, but what bothered me, the same thing that bothered you, a congressman is coming out and saying, hey, I'm part of aerospace and transportation committees,
Starting point is 00:15:37 and I'm telling you, it's not us testing. They say it's something else. That bothers me, because we do test, and we do confuse our own citizens. California citizens used to report it, and it turned out it was our own test, but now they're coming out saying, nope, this is somebody else.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Well then why haven't we shot it down, like the balloon, why did we take our time? By the way, here's a question. If the US government's saying it's not theirs, right? Yes. Okay, so here's a question, Tom. If you're in your backyard, okay, your job as a man of the household
Starting point is 00:16:10 is to protect the backyard of your house, okay? You see something, a drone on top of your house, a small little drone on top of your house, and let's just say you got a good size house with an acre. You ask your kids, hey, is this one of ours? No. Hey, is this any of the guys? No shoot it down So it's like looking inside your daughter's bedroom. There's some bathroom or something getting pictures because you can have bad kids next door
Starting point is 00:16:33 Hey, let's see if you can get a picture while she's taking a shower kids are gonna do this with Jones those things over my property It's coming down the way. What if it's a drone above a military base? What if you fly a drone above an airport? If you fly a drone over an airport, what do you do to the drone? You shoot it down. When we were in Acropolis, I don't know if you remember when we were in Greece, and we were trying to get the drone.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Do you remember that? And it's like, hey, immediately it's like, hey, bring the drone down. You know one of the camera guys was using a drone. But if we don't know what it is, why are we even questioning it? Exactly, then then they know that the only answer to that is then they know it's not all yeah What are you doing? It's not sure why are you okay with that staying up there Rob? What is this next clip? Is this Pentagon? So this is the
Starting point is 00:17:21 Deputy Defense Press Secretary Sabrina Singh where she came out yesterday after Congressman Van Drew said that they were from Iran she came out and said that they were not. She came out and she said they were not. Let's see what she has to say. Jen. Sabrina can you tell me what the Pentagon is doing to address this issue of drone sightings over New Jersey, it's near sensitive installations, the FBI is involved, what is the Pentagon doing? Sure. So at this time, so aware of those drone sightings that have been reported, at this time we have
Starting point is 00:17:54 no evidence that these activities are coming from a foreign entity or the work of an adversary. This is kind of weird. So check this out. Go back to the beginning. She points at Jen, then moves the page to the page that she's going to read the question. Oh, before that. Wait, watch this again, the body language. Tell me if I'm off a little bit. See if she is already knowing what Jen is going to ask her.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Go ahead, Rob. Jen. Watch. Sabrina, can you tell me what the Pentagon is Yeah, what you have drone sightings over New Jersey. It's near sensitive. How do you know she was going to go to installation? What is the Pentagon doing? Sure. So at this time, so aware of those sightings that have been reported. At this time, we have no evidence that these activities are coming from a foreign entity or the work of an
Starting point is 00:18:44 adversary. We're going to continue to monitor what is happening, but at no point were our installations threatened when this activity was occurring. Can you rule out that these are American drones or US military drones? These are not US military drones. Again, this is being investigated by local law enforcement. Our initial assessment here is that these are not drone activity coming from the foreman to your adversary. I don't understand the fact that like, no, no, what I'm asking is, how long does it stay
Starting point is 00:19:16 up there? Five minutes? It's been two, three days? A long 50 of them. No, listen, it's immediate, immediate attack ahead of it rather than staying and keeping it up there. Now, the only reason why you may not attack it immediately, where the everything's going to fall and it could destroy some homes and things like that. But think about it this way. The other plane that was flying into Pentagon, what did they do
Starting point is 00:19:40 to that plane, 9-11? There was two planes, right? The one attack, the one was 9-11. The one that hit the Pentagon. The other one that was going where? One was in Colorado, the White House. Not Colorado, Pennsylvania. The one that went down in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, my bad, my bad. They had scrambled and the one that allegedly
Starting point is 00:19:55 went down in Pennsylvania was going to be shot down. That's exactly the point, so that story is, why'd you shoot it down? Why'd you shoot it down? Yeah, cause they know it was gonna be shot down. Why didn't you hesitate? Why didn't you hesitate? Why'd you shoot it down? Why'd you shoot it down? Why didn't you hesitate? Why didn't you hesitate? Why'd you shoot it down?
Starting point is 00:20:07 How did you know whose it was? So you don't know what this is? So in five minutes you could figure out who playing that was, but you can't figure this out in three days? Don't give me this bullshit. So what are you allowing this to do? Is this a exchange for someone that watched this?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Could this be the enemy, you just gave me 10 billion dollars, my country is Iran. Iran made a video showing how a little drone goes and follows Trump while he's golfing. Remember that video they made two years ago? It was an older video, two, three years ago. You think they would want, like how often you think Trump's gonna golf the next four years? At the Jersey place. At the Bedminster place. How often do you think Trump's going to golf the next four years at a bunch at the
Starting point is 00:20:45 Jersey place, the bed bedminster. How often anything's going to time your you golf. How often you think Trump's going to golf at bedminster the next four years. Bedminster. He'll, he'll golf more than a few times, but not every day. No, give me a number of time. 50 times. I over the next four years.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Yes. I would say No I would say under a hundred times probably 25 times a year during the wet That's exactly what I'm saying. So let's just say 50 to 100 times correct I'll valuable is that for me to send the drone to learn everything I can about that golf course above it. Like are you dumb? To think think these drones could have gone anywhere?
Starting point is 00:21:27 They're above Bedminster? Why do you think they're above Bedminster? Do you think this is a famous golfer that's trying to improve their golf skills because they wanna build a better golf course than the one in Bedminster? Or do you think this is a place that this guy's gonna go, look at this,
Starting point is 00:21:40 they gave you a glimpse of what they did. This is an Iranian video. Look, this is an Iranian video that came out a few years ago. Yeah. Hey, you want to mess with us? Look what kind of technology we have access to We can get you go back a little bit Rob that shows the Marlago clip because that's what I wanted to show Yeah, go back a little bit, you know the part that was above it Maybe go forward like five seconds. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Okay, right there Right there back up a little bit. So what is that? How do you get that?
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's a drone. It's a drone. You get keep going. Okay, right there, right there. Back up a little bit. So what is that? How do you get that footage? How do you get that stuff? Yeah. So you don't think they wanna learn every single piece of the property on what to do? I don't know, man. The fact that, this gets me to, you know, the people that are questioning.
Starting point is 00:22:19 When did Chris Ray resign? Yesterday. He stepped down. The former FBI, he's the head of FBI. Yeah. He steps down, okay. He allowed somebody to go through Melania's drawer in her, in Mar-a-Lago. Yep. Even though Trump was working with them to get the files back, they went and embarrassed him and you know, Majorca's all that stuff. Not Majorca, Garland, right? Merrick. Right? While they're doing all that stuff, investigating Kim, nothing with Joe, nothing with the laptop, nothing with anybody, but you do that and then you're doing this at this time with Iran
Starting point is 00:22:56 getting 10 billion on the same day? What the hell is going on here? No wonder people are not trusting you. Exactly. By the way, by the way, this is the part where when they ask the questions and they say, are you going to do anything to have a revenge on these guys? Are you? Am I going to? Can I ask you a question? Kristen Welker? What's her name? Exactly. Okay. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. What would you do if 50 drones were over your house, where you and your husband and kids
Starting point is 00:23:28 live in? Would you want to know who was behind it? Is that called revenge? What do you call that? It's called wanting to know. Would you say, what if I told you, wow, what a vengeful person you are, Kristen Welker. Why do you want wanna know why these drones are trying to see what you're doing?
Starting point is 00:23:46 You're such a pervert, you think they wanna know what you're doing in the bedroom? They're just a bunch of innocent drones, Kristen. Except the difference is, you're just a journalist. I'm the damn president. And we're moving this slow? This is pathetic. You know, every year I do my business plan
Starting point is 00:24:02 and I choose two words on January 31st, on December 31st, I already know one of my words for 2025. Two words I had for 2024 were sell and drive. One of the words in 2025 is speed. Speed. We had an executive meeting, I told them the theme this year is LFG. It's all speed. Nothing going slow.
Starting point is 00:24:20 You have a crisis like this going on, you're moving this slow on it? What? Hell no. Go. Intel, what do we know? We don't know? Call everybody. Are these yours? Are these yours? Are these yours? Everybody call everybody and ask them if they're there. It's not yours. If we find that it's yours, 300% tariff on you and public humiliation, we're shooting the shit down and going and getting it right now You ready boom shoot it open area. Yes right now shoot them down because it's gonna drop you in open area Let's investigate exactly who's it is we go back to him publicly. This was XYZ's
Starting point is 00:24:57 Every once in a while you have to make an example of a country if you don't do they'll keep doing it And you leave it like this. I don't know. This is frustrating to me Did they protection and safety and security is so important that when you do something like this to the man that just became a president before he's about to become the president president-elect and we're just kind of like yeah yeah Jen yes I don't know yeah I mean we don't think it's not Iran but you know we're looking into we're doing our part we got some Intel Pentagon freaking no wonder you're missing so much money and everybody but you know we're looking into, we're doing our part, we got some intel. Pentagon?
Starting point is 00:25:26 Frickin' no wonder you're missing so much money. And everybody's trying to figure out. $842 billion budget they can't account for for the six year in a row. And I love that you said that, and I'm just really, really quick. I love that you said that. The fact that they're just letting this go
Starting point is 00:25:40 makes people like me question every single thing that they do. She's by the way, she's, that girl that was up there, she's the Kareem Jean-Pierre for the Pentagon. She just goes up there and spits BS with zero answers and there's no accountability to them. And God forbid, and I know, listen, we only have less than 40 days for Trump to come in. What about the four years that he's going to be in? If they're doing stuff like that, they're not going to stop.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I've said this before, they are not going to stop going after this dude. And this is just, to me, this is showing me that just like, oh. I just want to know. All I want to know is, we're the greatest country in the world. We have the best FBI. You know who said we have the best FBI? You know who said that? What conservative recently said, and I'll go down and say it again, we have the best,
Starting point is 00:26:23 you know. Conservative said this? Conservative said it. Oh, they're definitely not telling the again. We have the best, you know, conservative said this Intelligence yeah, or I'll find that exactly who was if we have it Let's find out what happened if you can find a person missing $50 under tax return But you can't find out what the hell this drone is coming from. Stop it Adam final thoughts. Yeah I'll sum this thing up. So they didn't shoot any of the drones down? Is that what you're saying? Not at all. One guy tried. So you're going to have to give me a good reason why you would not shoot this down. Now they're speculating that it's Iran. I don't know if it's Iran or if it's not, but
Starting point is 00:26:57 let me make an argument. Iran. You know the show on TV, The Biggest Loser? You know how that Donald Trump just won Time Person of the Year, Man of the Year? The biggest loser of the year has been the Islamic Republic of Iran. And that's not just my opinion. It's according to, wait for it, Wall Street Journal, Iran suffers blow of historic proportions with Assad's fall. They said, quote unquote, the Islamic Republic thought that Hamas's October 7th attack would be a turning point in history. That's true, but in an entirely opposite direction
Starting point is 00:27:31 for what it hoped for. So they've funded, you know, we talk about in finance ROI, return on investment, you talk about ITR, investment time and return. They've spent decades funding these militant jihadist groups, Hamas, Houthis, Hezbollah, Iran has. But we've given them the money to do it, right? Hold on, Vinny. I'm just saying. So, but Iran has funded these groups. And where are they all now? Hamas is destroyed. Hezbollah is basically decapitated. The Houthis have basically said we no mas like the
Starting point is 00:28:06 Roberto de Iran. So Iran is looking at themselves and they're like what did we all do this for? We're an active terror state. Meanwhile, I'm not sure if you're following this, I'm sure you are PBD. Apparently Ayatollah Khomeini is not doing well. He's not doing well. He's not been doing well for a couple months. Correct. We saw the last president almost a year ago died in a helicopter accident. The newest president is supposed to be a moderate. What's going on with that? You did an episode about the misery index in Iran, right?
Starting point is 00:28:32 One of the highest misery indexes in the world. Their happiness, they have happiness levels of different countries. One of the most just unhappy, miserable countries in the world. The people of Iran are not the government of Iran the people of Iran the Persian people are amazing people I'm telling you but the government is subjugating all its people and they're terrorizing their own people and their goal is to terrorize the world So the GDP per capita I think per person in Iran is about five thousand dollars per person Why do I bring all this up? So meanwhile, their people are suffering, their people are miserable, their entire investment of their entire terror
Starting point is 00:29:11 regime has basically crumbled. And this is what they're trying to do. Apparently, fly drones are, it makes no sense to me, but it gives you a little reasoning as to what their methodology is. They are not there to help their people. They're here to just basically provide territory. So this is what I just Rob, I'm glad you posted this. Okay, so mystery drone spotted over New Jersey Staten Island. So look at the locations. It's going over. Arsenal Military Base, Trump International, National Golf Club, Bedminster, New York, Burlington. All that area. That area's got a lot of information there.
Starting point is 00:29:48 But Rob, do you know when was the first drone sighting that started in Jersey? Do you know when it happened? So Rob, do me a favor, go to Google and search the following. First sighting of New Jersey drones. You will be surprised by what comes up. And I hope I'm wrong. November 18th. The drones with some residents say appear larger than hobbyist drones. Those used for recreational purposes have been spotted almost every night flying over northeastern US states since November
Starting point is 00:30:18 18th. Four weeks, almost four weeks. Guys, this is not just a few days. November 18th and we're initially sited near Picketney Arsenal, a US military base, research and manufacturing facility. Since November 18th. You're telling me since November 18th you've known about this and you can you open up that article Rob to see where it goes Al Jazeera? So zoom in a little bit to see what else it's going to tell us about the dates. Go a little lower Rob if you could. Ok perfect. Go a little lower and see if there's anything else to read or is that it? Ok. So in a book by December 4th, Cautioning Residents
Starting point is 00:30:58 of Floral Park of Burrow in Jersey about the drones. Chief of Police Joseph Orlando wrote, Over the past two weeks, the drone sightings have been occurring nightly, beginning just after sunset and lasting well into the early morning hours. He described the appearance of the drones as nefarious and nature-go-little-lower. He also noted that the drones are flying above critical infrastructure such as water reservoirs, electric transmission lines, train stations, police departments and military installations. On December 5, Jersey Governor Phil and military installations on December 5th. Jersey Governor Phil Murphy wrote that on social.
Starting point is 00:31:28 There is no known threat to the public at this time. Yesterday I covered a briefing with Majorca, senior officials, DHS, and members of Congressional delegation to discuss the problem. I don't know, man. Listen, November 18th, you own a property, you own an office, you see something that you typically don't see in your office, what do you do? How long does it take you to investigate what's going on? What if nobody does something about it?
Starting point is 00:31:54 Do you just sit there and take it and that's it? I don't know about this. By the way, last thing PBD, do you think these occurrences, not in New Jersey, in America around the world, are going gonna happen more or less? Well, wait a minute. Listen, they're making laws about deep fakes Yeah, if you take someone's daughter and you make deep fake porn, they want to make that a crime, right? Right. Okay. So this is the speed of crime When we ran an inshore, I was to a lawyer yesterday, when we ran an insurance company,
Starting point is 00:32:25 I'm still the CEO of the company, had a meeting with them last week with a bunch of different things that's going on. Every insurance executive CEO, big ones came in, we sat down, we had a two-day meeting with them. One of the things you have no choice but to get very good at in insurance is compliance. And when we're in 50 states, including Puerto Rico, and I think we're the third or second largest in Puerto Rico, and we got, we've licensed 60,000 agents in 50 states. You deal with every single department of insurance, you pay taxes in every one of those states. I don't know how many states we pay taxes in Tom. Honestly, you know how my CPA would come and say here's this much for this state, this
Starting point is 00:32:58 much for that state, this much for this state. Every state we're paying taxes in that we have to pretty much, if we had to we paid it. You'll learn about compliance and what happens is you learn new ways that people commit a crime So what's the old-school way of crime and sales? Your realtor you go you do a loan 10 or 3 the client forgets to sign one thing. What's the old-school? Method of sales that people do that you screw up and you use you lose your license. What is it? Ah shit, I don't want to go back 40 minutes to meet the client.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Let me just do what? Forge the signature. You lose your license. You're a dummy. You know what's another one? Oh, you know what? I'm a better salesperson than my wife. My wife's the broker.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I don't have the license. I'll sell it. I'll go there. I'll fill out the paperwork. Then we would investigate and find that this guy out of Carolina who was selling to somebody while the wife wasn't there and the wife's the licensed one, we called every one of the clients that day. It took us one day to realize she doesn't sell. He sells.
Starting point is 00:33:52 How long did it take us until we terminated this guy? 24 hours. Oh, yeah, listen, we made the decision immediately. But you know what happens? Then comes social media, then comes Zoom, then comes every time we have to accelerate the process of the threat and how people try to take advantage, you're supposed to move quickly. Right now with us in the ITMBDC, we're going through it right now.
Starting point is 00:34:14 You investigate quickly, you're using that for this? Really? What? You were doing this? Interesting. Well, that's double dumb, but guess what? It's a crime. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:34:24 We got to do what we got to do. If you want to go you you go through it, but you're telling me for something like this They need to put a law where I'm going with this is if you think deep fake of a girl that she's not in it But she's being used in porn should be a crime, which I agree if you're gonna do that should be a crime. Guess what? What's the new crime that we want to put with drones? It needs to be a crime. Guess what? What's the new crime that we want to put with drones? It needs to be a crime. It needs to be a crime if it's either crime or you shoot it down. If it's not our drone and we don't know whose it is, no one's taking ownership, shoot the shit down.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Don't sit on it since the 18th. How by the way, if you're watching this, I'm curious, whether you agree with me politically or not, because there's about 15% of you that watch this, that you watch it because you don't agree with us, which you have no idea how important you are, and I love it. You tell me, left, right, center, wherever you are. I want one person to tell me a good argument
Starting point is 00:35:22 on why you're okay with the drones being up there and the US government telling us they don't know what it is and we're not shooting those things down. Tell me one person aside from safety reasons, which I agree with you on where it crashes, aside from safety reasons, give me one reason why those drones shouldn't be shut down. Why not? Do you have one? You don't have one? I don't have one.
Starting point is 00:35:44 The hell are we doing? What are have one? You don't have one? I don't have one. What the hell are we doing? What are we doing? And where? In an area that's the financial capital of the world, Bidminster president? This is… Anyways, we got to go to the next story because this is really just very annoying. Security is your number one job as a man and a husband and a father. Security is your number one job as the FBI director, the president.
Starting point is 00:36:04 The current president is Biden. VP Kamala, that's your job to protect me, you, us, our families. You're not doing it. What the hell are you waiting for? It's a basic phone call. Two hours, call every head of state, what the fuck is going on here? Is this you? Because I'm shooting this shit down.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And I swear to God if I find out it's you, it's over. Do you understand me? You think I'm playing with you? We're not. What do you want to do? It's ours. Take the shit down right now. Out and whatever you have, give me every single file and if you don't, public scrutiny and 200 300 percent of tariff come in your way and sanctions on your country for one year I swear to God the fear of death is coming your way closest thing to it This is like Anyways, let's go to the next story freaking very annoying to me People in Jersey average day-to-day families you you want kids to walk you want me to have my kids go to school and I'm worried
Starting point is 00:37:04 About what's gonna happen with these things? Are you out of your fricking mind? Are you out of your mind? In two of our most special states in America, Jersey and New York, how rich are those people, personalities that come out of those places? Anyways, let me go to the next story
Starting point is 00:37:17 before I fricking turn off the podcast today. All right, let's go to the next story. Now back for a first topic for people to get fired up. Let's go to a little bit more of a different kind of a story here. So what do we got here? All right, let's talk about Alex Jones. Judge rejects sale of Alex Jones Infowars to the onion in dispute over bankruptcy auction. So is this kind of like a stoop spoof that onion wants to buy them to kind of put them
Starting point is 00:37:41 out of business and say, Hey, we bought them and we used our money and we closed them up like is that kind of what they're trying to do Rob is that what this is because the onion is a liberal left onion is the old-school watered-down Babylon B is that fair to say that because onion is what they wish they were Babylon B but they can't be because they're just not as talented and creative as the guys at Babylon B are. It's not even close by the way. Let me read this story to you and then let's go to this. Okay, here we go, page 13.
Starting point is 00:38:11 So a federal judge on Tuesday rejects the sale of the conspiracy, who wrote this article? New York Post. Okay, of the conspiracy platform Infowars to the onion satirical news outlet after Alex Jones claimed that a recent bankruptcy auction was fraught with illegal collusion. The Onion was named the winning bidder on November 14th over a company affiliated with the Jones. U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Christopher Lopez's decision made Jones can stay at Infowars in
Starting point is 00:38:36 Austin, Texas. The Onion had planned to kick Jones out and relaunch Infowars in January as a parody. So they're trying to mock him, right? At the end of a lengthy two-day hearing in a Texas courtroom, Lopez criticized the auction process flawed and said the outcome left a lot of money on the table for families of victims of the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. You got to scratch and claw and get everything you can from them. Lopez said, Rob, is this a clip from who?
Starting point is 00:39:04 Is this the lawyer or who is this guy here? No, this is actually, he is the CEO of the parent company that owns the Onion. This is back from November where he talked about them winning the bid, the Onion winning the bid. And then you have an Alex Jones clip as well. I do, you wanna play Alex first? Because Alex lays out what exactly happened.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Is this Alex's most recent clip or is this guy's first clip? Alex's clip is from November as well it's when he first finds out about the clip. Which clip came first? Alex came first this came second. So put play Alex first go for it. Ladies and gentlemen it is 750 right now I'm about to upload this to X I just got word 15 minutes ago that my lawyers and folks met with the U.S. trustee over our bankruptcy this morning. And they said, they're shutting us down even without a court order.
Starting point is 00:39:50 This morning, the Connecticut Democrats with the Onion newspaper bought us. They asked, did they outbid? They said, well, it was competitive. So they changed all the bidding rules, made it secret two days ago. I had a bad feeling. I told you that. And just like they tried to shut us down back in late May without a court order,
Starting point is 00:40:07 they're supposed to have a court order. There's gonna be injunctions filed. I'm about to go live out of Harrison's American Journal Studio. I don't know what's gonna happen, but I'm gonna be here till they come in here and turn the lights off. I'm gonna say, where's your court order?
Starting point is 00:40:19 So this is all going down right now. They want to silence the American people, but we're not gonna be silenced. Be sure and follow me at the Alex Jones Network at AJN Live on X right now. They're following court to take real Alex Jones away. That's totally unconstitutional. The judge already said no, so they followed in other courts. So live feed going up by the time you see this at AJN Live and at real Alex Jones right
Starting point is 00:40:40 now, share this everywhere. This is a total attack on free speech. The deep state is completely out of control. The private security hasn't even been told all this yet. They try to tell them last time the other US trustee to shut us down on the court order. You know, these folks said no. So this is all happening right now. This is the tyranny of the new world order desperate to silence the American people,
Starting point is 00:41:00 the mandate of Trump against all the lawfare. They don't care. So the system still thinks it's in charge. I'm going live right now from what probably will be the last transmission from this building. God bless you all for your support. Please support our sponsors so we get funds to stay on the air at the Alex Jones Network, thealexjonesstore.com. Take action.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I need your support. Go to the other clip Rob. And this is Ben Collins, the CEO of the parent company of The Onion, talking about why they wanted to own Alex Jones is info. Let's hear it. Here we are. We own the onion owns in force.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I look, we're going to go after all of the like every facet of alternative media that is trying to get you addicted to stupid stuff. Like there there is a whole world of podcasters and, um, TikTok influencers. I'm glad I'm seeing this video. I have some really Sweetheart. Curious ideas of the world. And I also think that we're learning right now that their followings are just as big,
Starting point is 00:41:57 if not bigger than traditional celebrities. And they've, they've gone un-mocked. They've gone, uh, they got a free pass to this point. And we don't think that that's fair. You don't think that that's fair? That's the word again. I'm sorry, Onion. Let me, Tom, can you do me a favor and pull up?
Starting point is 00:42:19 Like, is there a way to track traffic going to the onion versus Babylon Bee and measuring the two together for the last three years? I am begging you to find this. There used to be a site called Alexa.com. Can you please find the two together? I don't know the data by the way, so I could be wrong and onion's been crushing it. But from what I see, I am willing to bet Babylon B's traffic versus the onion, they're destroying the onion. And onion wishes they could be Babylon B. You know what would be funny with this entire part that... This is who, by the way.
Starting point is 00:43:08 This is who, Rob, the Jew just put in organic traffic, and this is on what website? It's ahrefs.com. Okay, and they showed up as what, 273? Can you do me a favor? Just take copy paste to our... What do you call it the link and just Open up a new window, so don't close it so we can compare the two together and put up a new window and on this New window that you do
Starting point is 00:43:34 Put Babylon B in there and let's see what it's doing the same way you just did it I don't know what oh it doesn't let you do two at a time. Let me try a different way. Give me one second You just did it. I don't know what, oh, it doesn't let you do two at a time. Yeah, let me try a different way. Give me one second. Yeah, I would be very curious to know because this guy had a play where he wanted to publicly humiliate. He said conservative podcasters, what did he call them?
Starting point is 00:43:57 He says these other, any traffic. So who is ahead, Rob? It says, according to this website, Babylon B is at 95.5 thousand and the onion is at 273 thousand. So onion is still ahead. According to this website. Can you do me a favor and find out when did Babylon B start and when did the onion start? When did Babylon B start?
Starting point is 00:44:16 The onion has been around for a decade. Babylon B started in? It was a newspaper. Babylon B started eight years ago. Okay when did onion start? I think it started off as a college newspaper. Yeah it was a newspaper. Babylon B started eight years ago. Okay, when did Onion start? I think it started off as a college newspaper. Yeah, it was a newspaper. 1988.
Starting point is 00:44:28 1988, Madison. One of the more liberal cities in America, by the way. That's where the University of Wisconsin is. Right, so 88, 88, 2016 is what? 28 years before Babylon B started, right? Now Musk is a big fan of Babylon B. So these guys are buying info wars to try to
Starting point is 00:44:46 humiliate What do you call it? Alex and by the way, is there the dollar amount Rob that we have in an article? Because I think the number when I asked you yesterday was like 1.75 million dollars two million and they're given $700,000 to what do you call it to the family and all this other stuff? Can you go to that Rob real quick? 1.75 million in cash and then part of that settlement was 750,000 that would go to the families of the Sandy Hook victims So give or take twenty half million dollars to buy info war correct. It's nothing
Starting point is 00:45:22 Elon and Elon has that in his pocket right now. Does the lawsuit come with it? I think that sticks with Alex personally, but I'd have to read the bankruptcy filing because there's certain things you can't do to get out of trouble. So let's just say somebody wanted to buy Infowars and But the company that wanted to buy them they wanted to buy them Minus the liability that comes with it Right meaning I don't want I want to be held harmless of the lawsuit I want to be held harmless of all the prior debt. Could you do that or no? Out of the bankruptcy because you're are you buying it out of bankruptcy or no?
Starting point is 00:46:01 Yeah, you're buying it in a bankruptcy court, and depending on what it is, it's like when we were looking at buildings to buy, sometimes if there's a construction debt, that's gotta be paid by whoever buys the building, right? Because some construction guys worked on the building. However, I do not know, but if you bought a building from a criminal
Starting point is 00:46:24 and he's going to jail, his penalty goes with him. You don't have to pay that penalty, but you could go buy a building out of bankruptcy from the government. Make sense? Yeah, I got it. So it depends on how much of this is on Alex Jones by the government and how much of this is on Infowars
Starting point is 00:46:44 because the only way, look if they're trying to auction off Infowars, the US bankruptcy judge trying to force Infowars to be auctioned off to make money to give to Sandy Hook, you're not going to be able to auction it off if you're stuck with another $10 million you owe Sandy Hook because you bought Infowars. That's gotta stay with Alex. So it'd be interesting to see how is the U.S. Bankruptcy Corps assigning these?
Starting point is 00:47:16 What do you mean? How are they assigning it? How much is attached to Infowars and how much is attached to the libel that was committed by Alex Jones the citizen What are your thoughts on the story? I don't know I was looking up while you guys were checking at who this guy Ben Collins was he's from Massachusetts. He worked for NBC no surprise there His mother's a librarian went to Emerson, Thomas Emerson, pretty freaking liberal.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Completely. Okay, thank you. And I just, I don't like. It's one of the small Northeast colleges. I get it, okay listen, if it's up for sale and you wanna get it, I don't like that smug, crappy attitude where it's like these conservative, like they're trying to get in there
Starting point is 00:47:57 as if we're the ones spitting out this poison. It's these people, those are the people that everybody's been talking crap about, just like what, Tim Walz's daughter, what was she saying yesterday? Tim Walz's daughter was saying that people that listen to Joe Rogan's podcast are red flags. Yeah, red flags. And you gotta stay away from us. And it's like, I'm just sick and tired.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And it's just like, we keep hearing these people and they're just not learning. They're not getting it. They're not getting the message that America wants to hear people like us. They want to hear people like Joe Rogan. They don't want to hear this. And listen, and apparently it's not going to happen and I hope it doesn't. I think it's stupid. So walk me through what happened. In April 2024, Collins announced that the CEO of Global Tetra had drawn a company that has purchased purchased onion.
Starting point is 00:48:45 So onion was officially just sold six months ago. Did you know that, Tom? Onion was bought by Global Tetradron. Yeah, can you see what they paid for it? Because I just looked up what they, they used to have 500,000 subscribers at their peak, and then it just fell off according to one of the articles I just read. The purchase originated from a post by Collins on
Starting point is 00:49:09 Blue Sky after news broke that the then G.O. was looking for to offload the magazine amongst other titles and Collins won the assets of the website Infowars at auction despite the family's own. The federal judge, yeah, interesting. Interesting to see this guy's background and where he's at now. By the way, the reason that Jones and everybody were alleging tampering by the federal government is because the other bidder that bid three and a half million is first United American. It is affiliated with Alex Jones and it sells a lot of the stuff that he sells is apparel and I think there's health supplements or the things that he sells the prepping vitamins and stuff. So people
Starting point is 00:49:58 were saying you can't let first American buy this for three and a half million dollars. You're letting Alex Jones buy it from himself out of bankruptcy, and he's still gonna have a big mouth on the media. Well, so what? If that company is capable of buying it, then are they a bona fide bidder or not? Maybe they are.
Starting point is 00:50:17 And if the federal government doesn't like that, and they wanna give it to the onion, that was what Alex Jones was saying was the flaw to the process. I tell you, I actually think it's a great move on the left to buy Infowars and dump it. I think it's a great move on the left to buy Infowars and dump it. Strategically, it's like Elon Musk buying MSNBC.
Starting point is 00:50:38 The opposing side will be celebrating that. I think it's a great move to do that. But if it's only for two and a half million, there's nobody else that's willing to buy Infowars for three million, for three and a half million. All the content, it's gonna be used later on in documentaries and stuff, I don't know. I think there's something there.
Starting point is 00:50:55 You don't have to agree with it or not, but that's gonna be something that could be used for many, many years to come. Okay. If they buy his network Infowars, Alex Jones just doesn't just go away. He's not gonna be silenced. We still have the First Amendment freedom of speech.
Starting point is 00:51:12 They'll fire him. No, they will. Yeah. But then he'll go, I think he at one point said, welcome to the Alex Jones network. He's just gonna start a new company. You know, this reminds me of, it's a totally different situation.
Starting point is 00:51:22 So it's not an exact analogy, but do you remember what they did with our buddy James O'Keefe? What was his company called? Project Veritas. What does project Veritas do now? I don't know. Nothing. But I see what James O'Keefe is doing.
Starting point is 00:51:34 He's out there crushing it. He just came out with the movie. He started the O'Keefe network. So OMG, O'Keefe media group, I want to say. But the point is, even if they buy Infowars, Alex Jones is not going to stop. And I'm not saying that everything that Alex Jones does is right or wrong. We all know that he's paid the price for what he did with the Sandy Hook thing and the false claims and the crisis actors and everything that happened there. Tragedy,
Starting point is 00:51:59 horrible. But let's move that aside. You know, everything he did with Bohemian Grove, everything he's talked about with the gay frogs, returning the frogs gay, you know, nine level inside job. This is freedom of speech. This is the first amendment. He's allowed to say these things. He's paid the price for what he's done. I mean, by a w how much was that? A lot. How much did he have to pay? $1.5 billion. It's a mess. That's the same. Yeah. See, that's insane. So he's paying the price. I mean, if you ever spent time with Alex Jones, actually enjoyed having dinner with them, good guy. I mean, this guy is probably stressed the hell out.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Rob doesn't tell you what the onion is sold for. It didn't. It said that the, uh, the financial terms of the deal were not publicly disclosed. If you type in the onion top line revenue, do you know what it is? Top line revenue. I know at one point, Trump was, I'm sorry, Musk was interested in buying the onion digital media with 21.8 million dollars in top line revenue with 389 employees. It's not a big number. No, it's a small number since 1988. If that's the right number. Chicago, Illinois, here Rob, if you want to… Elon Musk can buy this stuff with the change in his pocket right now.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Well, I mean, this is the part if you want to show this, Rob. This is where I found the article from, rocketreach.co. No, just look at the link I just texted you. Because Rocketreach.co shows how big these guys are. And they're buying Infowars. Interesting. All right. It's not really them buying Infowars.
Starting point is 00:53:33 It's who bought them is buying Infowars. Yeah, zoom in a little bit. There it is. The Onion, $21.8 million in rev, 389 employees, 159 on Rocketreach, reach founded in 1988 I don't know how accurate this number is but those are the numbers that you got so it's a small company since 1988 that's still doing 21 22 million year that was bought out and everything they've published about themselves has always
Starting point is 00:53:59 been a joke like right here the union now enjoys a daily readership of 4.3 trillion and has grown into the single most powerful and influential organization in human history. They used to write all kinds of stuff that about themselves about everybody else. You used to text me onion stuff 15 years ago. Tom was a big fan of onions. They change in 16.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Yeah, you notice I don't say anything. I don't read it. Yeah. And you don't like onion, so. No, I'm not. You actually hate onion. That is probably the most true statement. All right, let's go to the next story.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Let's talk about UnitedHealthcare. So Rob, do you have the clip of his outburst outside the Pennsylvania courthouse? If you have that, let me just read this while you're looking forward. So, oh you have it, okay, let me just read this real quick. Lou Gimagione, the man charged with the murder and the death of United Healthcare,
Starting point is 00:54:46 Seale Bryan Thompson broke his day of silence with an outburst as he was escorted into a Pennsylvania courthouse where he challenged his arrest. It's completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and its lived experience. Mangione shouted, prompting his detail of about 10 officers to hurry him inside. Dressed in orange jumpsuit, Manjoun appeared unfazed. He was seen whispering with his attorney, Thomas Dickey, great last name, glancing at reporters and mumbling to himself at the Blair County Court hearing around 2 p.m. Prosecutors say he has $8,000 in U.S. cash and $2,000 in foreign cash. Masks, a passport on him in addition to a ghost
Starting point is 00:55:26 gun and a silencer resembling the weapon killed to kill Thompson when he was apprehended by police in Altoona on Monday. Go ahead Rob. I'm completely out of touch and this is an insult to the intelligence of the American people and to my experience. Complete insult to the intelligence of human kind. To the American people? Can you play it again on what he says? Did you catch what he said Rob or no? Consult to the intelligence of the American people.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Go a little bit back. Why won't they let him say nothing? He can talk. I'm completely out of touch and this is an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience. So I got something here yesterday that was sent to me that I was reading and I kind of showed it with you guys with Tom. Okay, Rob, I'll text this to you if you don't mind showing this. I'll keep reading it so the audience can see it as well on the timeline of what happened
Starting point is 00:56:37 here. Okay, so it was interesting reading this. The story says, it says, born into a wealthy family, attends a 40,000 dollar a year private school, becomes valedictorian, earns a bachelor's and master's in computer science by 26, no criminal record, no behavior red flags, clean slate, sharp dressed, photogenic, active on social media, vacations abroad, post- posts polished photos, looks like he's thriving, lands internship and builds a resume that screams success, spends free time exploring AI mushrooms and self-optimization trends, writes a Goodreads review on Ted Case sprinkles
Starting point is 00:57:18 and Safe Edgy, joins the professional world, follows the system scripts perfectly, no sign of instability, just another rising star in tax scene, disappears with friends for three months, then he kills the CEO. What happened for those three months? Who are the friends? What do we know about them? Now while this is going on, 50 Cent posted something, Rob, if you don't mind pulling this up on 50 Cent.
Starting point is 00:57:44 50 Cent posted something, Rob, if you don't mind pulling this up on 50 Cent. 50 Cent posted this on Instagram. On Instagram he posted a picture of Luigi and then he said something like, you won't understand me posting this, do you see it? Or maybe he was, he's not a guy that would take it down. He posted something and said, you won't't understand this but I made the 50 cent Luigi Mangione said something about I don't know I kind of like this kind of killer right there zoom in do you see it right there zoom in a little bit I don't know I kind of like this killer I'm sorry that this is going this way since deleted the post makes sense I'm
Starting point is 00:58:24 sorry this is going this way it deleted the post, makes sense. I'm sorry this is going this way, it is, but I'm doing a documentary on him, he is special, I apologize in advance for anyone who doesn't understand. 50 Cent said this about the guy. So Vinny, what do you know so far about what's going on since the last podcast? And you mentioned this yesterday in the prep.
Starting point is 00:58:41 It doesn't make any sense. Like I keep hearing these stories. Every time something like this happens, I take a step back. Like when Adam, when you say, you know, follow the money, sometimes I'm like, what is happening? What makes somebody do something like this and it came out of nowhere and it's a complete shock to everybody? In the book Chaos, remember the book Chaos that Candice told me to recommend by Tom O'Neill? Pat it was talked about the CIA Charles Manson and all the 60s and what they were doing back in those days There was a psychiatrist and for those that have read the book who spoke to Jack Ruby Remember the guy that shot Lee Harvey Oswald in the basement. Yeah. So his name was dr. Louis
Starting point is 00:59:18 Jolyon Jolly West his name was dr. Jolly West. He was a prominent psychiatrist with documented ties to the CIA's MKUltra program. He was focused on mind control experiments, they use drugs, they use psychological manipulation and other techniques. So while Ruby's in prison, this Dr. West, who has connections with the CIA, examined Ruby for several hours by himself, no cameras or nothing, just talking to him in the prison and when he was done with him, he had lost his mind He literally lost his mind. He was saying stuff like I was injected with something. I'm being silenced He was like a completely different person He's like they're going to kill the Jew like he lost his gourd
Starting point is 00:59:57 Okay And he once he left that several hour meeting his mental stateated, and it led to his death. So my thing is, and great point, who was talking to this guy, who and why? Is it a distraction? Was this guy unleashed to do whatever he was gonna do because of all the stuff that's happening in Syria, the stuff that's happening in J.D.? I don't know, it just doesn't add up,
Starting point is 01:00:19 and all this is gonna be is in the news for another week, Pat, and then it's gone, and then we don't hear about this guy, but the explanation, I would like to get deeper. Connect that for me a little bit better. The psychiatrist goes in, so Jack Ruby kills Oswald. The cop moves out of the way. They all believe that Ruby was told to do it. So Ruby kills Oswald.
Starting point is 01:00:40 It's a quick trial. He's guilty. He goes to prison. This guy, connected to the CIA, Dr. Jolly West, goes to review him, hour or two, whatever it was. Several, several hours. Several hours. And you're saying when that guy leaves the prison, he was bonkers. Lost his mind. And he said he was injected with something while he was there.
Starting point is 01:01:03 He said he was injected and he was trying to be silenced and then he literally lost his mind. Okay, now take that back now to this guy. Yes, while he was, for these three months that he was gone, who got to him, who spoke with him, who radicalized him. He's saying could somebody have, could somebody have taken him during those 90 days to shape his mindset to take out and do something like this.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Yep, I agree and I'll tell you why. Okay. There was deep investigations. You can go look at the London subway bombings, what's that, 12 years ago now, something like that? The London subway bombings. And you can go find out what they found out about the radical Muslim clerics.
Starting point is 01:01:46 And people said, 20 years ago now, it's now 20 years ago, 2005, that people said, yes, I'm a Muslim, but we're peaceful Muslims. This is what we care about. But my son was with these clerics and it didn't take long. To your point, Pat, what happens in those 90 days? That's what I'm interested in. And people said that they're, you said, you know, there were confused Muslim parents
Starting point is 01:02:13 that when you listened to them speak, they didn't seem like, you know, out there. It sounded like that Muslim was their faith, but they were not radicalized, and they were shocked at what had happened at the hands of these clerics in such a short time with their kids. So there are precedents we have out there to say,
Starting point is 01:02:31 wow, something can happen pretty quick if people that know what they're doing get to your kid and get to a person and turn them into a pawn. That didn't look like. So why don't we do this, why don't we do this, why don't we do this, okay. Can we do this, can we map out what the possibilities are? Okay?
Starting point is 01:02:47 From the logical one to the wildest one. Okay? Let's kind of go through it. One, the surgery that happened on his back, Rob, if you can pull up the surgery on his back, the pictures of the surgery on his back, you know which one I'm talking about, there's a picture right there, right?
Starting point is 01:03:05 That's him. Can you see it? Newsweek, okay. So did Luigi Mangione's back pain surgery go wrong? Click on the story, let's see what that is. Go wrong, what we know about this story. All right, zoom in a little bit so let's read this. Mangione was facing charges, okay, got it.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Since the shooting, this enforced significant speculation of motivation, the bullets killed him, okay. Now we're gonna look at back pain. According to reports from Forbes, Manugioni posted a Reddit on Reddit that is pain in his back in the months before the shooting, writing, my spondy went bad on me last year. It was completely devastating as a young athletic person. According to WaPo, friends of Manjoni
Starting point is 01:03:45 said that the reason he moved to Hawaii, which is his registered last address, was to get better health. Manjoni posted on his x-ray of his spine on social media with the image appearing to indicate a case of spondylolisthesis, okay, a condition caused by vertebrates slipping out of place which can cause chronic pain. In analysis of the image, neurosurgeon Tyler Cole said that the surgery that he received appeared to be suboptimal and that he would likely have continued to experience nerve pain after the operation.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Go a little lower. So this is an expert doctor commenting on what he saw. That's right, so the lack of good ALIF, along with the subsidence, likely worsen the L5 radicular pain by not restoring disc height and causing neuroforminal compression. You can fuse with continued misalignment as long as disc height is restored and foreman are open.
Starting point is 01:04:46 But the overall point is valid, looks like suboptimal surgery. Okay, so the doctor speaking in the doctor language, in the analysis of the expert grunge said this potentially could mean he even suffered from failed spinal fusion. A failed spinal fusion could lead to chronic back. Okay, individual, very aware of this. I totally understand this part. I take care of these kinds of patients all the time and it is a constant battle with insurance companies trying to get patients what they need to help them deal with their
Starting point is 01:05:12 pain. Okay, so simple. Hey man, you did the surgery, my pain is worse. You and I, we talk about this all the time, right? And you go to the doctor. There are three things we can do. We can do surgery. No.
Starting point is 01:05:26 You can do the PRP. All right, whatever. You can do the steroids or you can do the stem cell. Here's one thing you can do. Stem cell out of your joint, the bone that puts it, the marrow, and that's the high quality we can improve. All right. I don't recommend.
Starting point is 01:05:38 We can burn the nerve. That's what they want to do with me now. So the pain goes away. Right? We burn the nerve. And it kind of alleviates some of the pain every year and then maybe you'll burn it again and burn it again and Burn it again burn it again, but almost everybody you talk to is don't do a surgery on your back 90% of people say if you don't have to do don't do it. All right. Is that a reason to kill somebody?
Starting point is 01:05:56 Maybe let's set that aside one speculation two Go, you know Go, you know, 90 days, the story you said, they got to him, brainwashed him, whatever happened, prepared him to go out there and take him out. Okay, three, bad friends, manipulation, hardcore, hating the government, hating the insurance industry, let's do something about it. Somebody told him, I will take this guy out. That's four. Five, Brian Thompson is going to it.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Somebody got this guy to go take him out because of whatever reasons that was gonna help. Okay, six, Brian Thompson, who had the highest percentage of what, declined 32%? Highest percentage of decline is 32%. Maybe he was gonna go in and recommend to say, guys, we gotta kind of become industry standard. We're hated by everybody right now. We can't be doing this. And the investors are like, no, guys, we got to kind of become industry standard.
Starting point is 01:06:45 We're hated by everybody right now. We can't be doing this. And the investors are like, no, no, no, we can't do this. We got to take this guy out. I don't know if you guys have seen the movie The Accountant. Shout out to Kevin O'Garner, a phenomenal director. The accountant remembered that investigation he did that he found that that was happening. They're like, wait a minute, you got to get the hell out of here.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Getting a little bit too deep into this stuff I mean what else could it be outside of that Tom Vinny what else could be outside of that I'm trying to rack my baby because I was thinking maybe somebody in this family got screwed over by the thing that's not the case we read yesterday family third Tuesday families are very very well off family 37 grandkids he's one of the 37 grandkids the rest of them are doing apparently fine and he's the guy that kills the CEO. And that's where you have to ask yourself a question because when we talk about MKUltra,
Starting point is 01:07:30 you talk about the CIA, people want to just brush you off. From the 50s to the 70s, they were doing this stuff. Verbal manipulation, LSD, drugs, and think about it, it's 2024. You know how advanced they have to have gotten? I don't know the actual motive. Is it to distract us? Is it because they wanted to actually take this guy out? It doesn't take that long.
Starting point is 01:07:52 If it took Jolly West, and this is documented, this psychiatrist worked with the CIA, for, imagine that was for a couple hours at Ruby. If you have three months with this guy, easy money, just the way he did it, guys. Tom, I'm an expert marksman in two guns, okay? If I had a gun and you shoot all the time, why are you stopping, sitting, while he's walking away
Starting point is 01:08:14 a moving target and you're doing this? A real shooter, you just walk up, bow, one shot behind the head and you walk away. This was just a boom, like a robot. It doesn't match. It doesn't make sense Where are you going with that doesn't match as in like? The shooting the killing he's not a shooter. It's not a pro hit exactly. It's not You see the other picture the picture with the eyebrows the eyebrows don't match. Have you seen that one Rob? Luigi man, Johnny you type in eyebrows and everybody's talking about not that not that one. It's the other one right there
Starting point is 01:08:48 No, there's one. That's a One that's a better one that shows the eyebrows just don't match You know one eyebrow the eyebrows were more divided in in that picture. Yeah Well, I don't know if it's that one or not anyways I got you a question do you think here's like is he gonna be able to talk are we gonna hear him are we gonna be able to hear why and what is he gonna be on one of those interviews where we could sit with him you really think so I I'm very intrigued to find out who's gonna talk to this guy that's it right there like he has some
Starting point is 01:09:22 bushy bushy eyebrows that's before that's when the shooting happened and all of a sudden he's grown the hilly middle eastern from there but I don't know I don't see us talking to this guy Adam what do you think this is a very disturbing situation because let's just start some facts and then some opinions that I want to give you some quick headlines allegedly and we're to use that word very lightly. This guy just murdered this guy in cold blood from behind, six in the morning, silencer, gun, boom, dead. So my question is, why are so many people sympathetic to this guy? Specifically on the left, why do so many people on the left treat this guy as a hero? I'm going to group chat with a bunch of my buddies. They're like, he did the right thing.
Starting point is 01:10:08 They needed to do this. I said he needed to cold blooded murder the CEO of this company. Here's this guy, Brian Thompson, came from a middle-class family, worked his way up, became CEO of a massive company. We all understand what that, but then you read some of the headlines. And what I'm trying to do is unpack why people feel a certain way about this, right? So the alleged killer has ill will toward corporate America. We understand that corporate profits, what UnitedHealthcare double what the industry average of declination rates was. Joe Rogan had some things to say. He was speaking with Quentin Tarantino. He said the following, healthcare, healthcare industry, it's effing gross. It's a dirty, dirty business. The business of insurance is effing gross, especially healthcare
Starting point is 01:10:57 insurance. It's effing gross. That's Joe Rogan. We saw what Burger King, I'm not sure if it was true or not true. What happened with that? I texted this, Rob. If saw what Burger King, I'm not sure if it was true or not true, what happened with that? I texted this Rob, if they actually did this they said Burger King, we don't snitch. Almost mocking. I said I didn't find it on their Twitter account. Okay that's what I'm saying, I don't know if it was true or not true. Yeah so I don't think they tweeted it. The point is people are making a joke of someone being murdered in cold blood. Can you explain why you put that? Why did Burger King say we don't say it?
Starting point is 01:11:27 Because he was caught in McDonald's and McDonald's basically called the cops on him, as they should if a man on the run. And when they did, what ended up happening is Google, that McDonald's got so many negative reviews that Google had to pull the negative, is this the part Rob? Here's the part right here. Put this up real quick, 30 seconds, just put this up. It's the McDonald's where he was spotted. It's called review bombing.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Negative, even one star reviews have flooded the restaurants Google and Yelp pages, forcing the two companies to remove the comments. Some of them had terms like rats and snitches. And even before Mangione was identified, legions of online. Yeah, it's I mean, it's disgusting to the point where people are just mocking murder. So in New York, New Yorkers celebrate the assassination of United Healthcare CEO with a lookalike contest.
Starting point is 01:12:17 This is the winner right here. The winner young which money the winner one from doing this from from doing a lookalike contest on the murdering how much money they want a whopping ready $50. They held a controversial shooter lookalike contest in Washington State Park mocking the assassination of United healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. So there we go. And then you have the girl Taylor Lorenzo. We talked about her. Morgan saying I felt joy about this guys. This guy was murdered and was the professor rap pull up the professor the professor Here we go There's a professor of Columbia. This is her pen pen Oh, no, this pen play this clip right so I can't play it
Starting point is 01:12:56 She has music in the background, but this is the never been proud to be professor at the University of Pennsylvania Okay, pen here it is blue hair. No here. It is right here at the University of Pennsylvania. Okay, pen, here it is blue hair. Now here it is right here. Julia Alexia via face backlash after celebrating Louis Luigi, Mel Mangione celebrating him. She is a socialist and an anti fascist on tik tok, including where she wrote I've never been prouder to be a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, accompanied by the song, Do You Hear the People Sing? She reportedly called Mangiani the icon we all need and deserve. What a disgusting, like, unbelievable, like, what the hell are you, well, yet again, the left is showing their freaking true colors, man. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Then again, you know, my, my,, my interest is understanding why so many people are treating this guy like a hero. Which what people don't know. You saw what he wrote on the bullets, was it was deny, defend, depose. The number one cause for bankruptcy in America are medical bills. There's something going on here,
Starting point is 01:13:59 and not that I'm condoning this whatsoever, but it is helping create a conversation. We've done so many episodes on hospitals ripping people off per night that they're staying there. Health insurance, I left the health insurance industry specifically because of how it was half the time. Like every single time you wanted to use something for the services, well, you know, this is going to be this, well, I don't know about this and well, I don't know about this, well,
Starting point is 01:14:24 I don't know about this. And then you watch John Q and John Q was a movie where it's like, you know, this is gonna be this, well, I don't know about this, and well, I don't know about this, well, I don't know about this. And then you watch John Q, and John Q was a movie where it's like, dude, like, this is a little out of control. And then you see the number of declines, like the reason why I like life insurance, you know what life insurance does? Like, you have a two-year incontestability clause, right?
Starting point is 01:14:38 That they came up with. Yeah, which means, guess what? If I buy life insurance and I don't tell you I have AIDS, and you know, all of a sudden you die in six months, and it's like, oh, $2 million, what happened? You just only paid $600 a premium, and I gotta pay $2 million? I'm gonna investigate it in contestability clause.
Starting point is 01:14:57 No, we're not doing this, you didn't disclose that to us, boom, you used somebody else's blood when they tested you, this isn't you, we're not paying the $2 million. Insurance companies can do that for two years to protect them. Happens all the time. Boom, you use somebody else's blood when they tested you. This isn't you. We're not paying you $2 million. Insurance companies can do that for two years to protect them. Happens all the time. After two years, guess what? Hey, it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:15:10 We have to pay the premium. Life, then PNC. Right now, the problem with auto insurance is, auto insurance companies are not making money right now. So they're leaving states. Property and casualty companies are leaving states like Florida and they're leaving states like California and they're leaving states where there's a lot of theft with cars being stolen.
Starting point is 01:15:30 New York, some of the places. Like dude, it's just not profitable to be there, right? Health insurance, man. Those guys are freaking, you know, on big pharma what they do with a medicine that you can sell for five bucks, they sell it for 2,000 dollars because they can. There's a lot of that going on and that's the part that you're hoping Bobby and some of these guys do something about. But at what cost? To celebrate killing a CEO?
Starting point is 01:15:50 Yeah, I don't play that. No, no, you gotta be careful with that, Tom. There's a couple things going on here. So let's just for one moment, step away from the fact that it was health insurance industry and all the gooey grime and disgust that we're talking about. Let's just look at the celebration over the killer. There is underlying a war going on in this country
Starting point is 01:16:16 with socialist Marxists that literally want capitalist conservatives dead. I'll prove it to you. Do you remember the Boston bombing the two brothers? Sarnov I think it was TSA On the cover of rolling stone rolling stone. He's on the cover of rolling stone as the hot terrorists and being glamorized Let's remember what happened there that a week prior He ran over his brother killing him in the police chase. Do you remember that? Yeah, he ran over his brother, killing him in the police chase. You remember
Starting point is 01:16:48 that? He ran over his brother, who the two of them that had made the, the crock pressure cooker, the pressure cooker, crock pot bombs with nails and, and everything in there designed to go off like 11 years ago. Right, Tom? More than that. And I want to say it was 2013, 2013. Yeah, there was. So remember the romantic moment they had with him. It's the same. Forget about healthcare. Just for a second. It's the same romantic response from certain members of the left, socialist Marxists that like it when they think they think of these guys as freedom fighters. They think of these guys as soldiers in their cause. Don't mistake that.
Starting point is 01:17:29 That's why they're like, I've never been prouder. Oh, this guy. And so I don't know what 50 Cent is saying and what he's meaning or what he's not meaning, but there's a lot of voices go out there. They oh, this is joy from a reporter who's clearly a socialist Marxist. She absolutely is she hates capitalism She hates Trump. She hates all that stands for she's there There is a romantic love when one of their guys breaks through because it's simple they think he's a soldier Yeah, I think it's such a great point because the Boston Bomber how they romanticize this guy put him on the cover
Starting point is 01:18:02 There's a direct line from this guy an actual terrorist who killed Americans and the Boston bomber how they romanticize this guy put him on the cover. There's a direct line from this guy an actual terrorist who killed Americans in the Boston bombing right to the gays for Gaza brigade basically celebrating Hamas terrorist killing innocent people. There's something going on there with what about the member of the nice. So you're right. They think they the left Marxist thinks they're soldiers. I've never been more to be at University of Penn because we helped educate and this guy is a soldier in the cause and look At the people. Yeah, well showing up. Yeah, remember remember the night stalker serial killer and rapist in California You remember this guy Richard Ramirez? Well, he got married girls were coming and like I'm they were had a crush Guys, it just happened recently with Wade Philip. What was the guy's name Wade? They're not Wade Phillips. We'd Wilson now Wade Wilson this guy who's this guy who girls were
Starting point is 01:18:52 I'd like a hand signal. He would do women and they're like I like he got married like the professor thing You know Neil the grass Tyson. I'm not bringing him into this, but when you're, when you've built nothing and you're just, all you do, those that can't do, teach, and you're just in school and you're getting educated and you're in these Marxist universities, you've never built a company, you have no employees, all you want to do is take. Yeah, let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. All right.
Starting point is 01:19:21 So next story I want to go to is the acquittal of Daniel Penny that just happened. Phil Mickelson, while this is happening, I mean Phil Mickelson is some column one of the greatest golfers of all time, goes on Twitter and says the following, random thoughts, Mike Tirico, Chris Collins word are great in the booth. Day of the Jackal is an incredible show if a deranged individual threatens to kill you let's hope there's a Daniel Penny around Phil Mickelson good for him for saying that then
Starting point is 01:19:56 on CNN the great Scott Jennings goes off again and watch what happens when he says this. Just be ready for it. They're going to lose their mind in three seconds. Go ahead. If you're on the American left tonight, here's my chart. The good guys today, Daniel Penny. The bad guys, Luigi Mangione.
Starting point is 01:20:17 It seems to me everybody on the left... How do you... what's the chart for victims? I'm just telling you what I see out in the world today. I know, I know. I just want you to finish the chart. What I see out in the world today. What I see out in the world today. What I see out in the world today you what I see out in the world today. I know I know. I just want you to finish the chart. What's my chart? You can make your own chart. What I'm telling you is people on the left, people on the left, can't seem to tell the difference between the good guys and the bad guys. I want to know whether you think that as Congressman Crane does that Daniel Penny should get the congressional gold medal to recognize his heroism I'm not asking you about anyone. I think he ought to get metal. I think he ought to build a statue to this guy in New York
Starting point is 01:20:59 Here we go And so we said yes, absolutely because You have to hear what he says here back up you have to what he says you're very poor go ahead Rob Right, and so we see it. Yes, absolutely because When people kill people who are white they tend to get harsher sentences, especially if they're people of color. What about the Jordan Williams case here in New York? Same situation. African American gets on a subway, ends up killing a guy, grand jury tosses it out at the exact same time as the penny. This guy's single handily dismantling CNN.
Starting point is 01:21:51 I sent this to Rob. Can we show that Rob? When's the last time you were on a New York City train? This is the type of stuff that people on the train have to deal with every single day and this is just a regular one. He doesn't have a knife, he doesn't have a gun but you're sitting on the train trying to deal with every single day and this is just a regular one. He doesn't have a knife, he doesn't have a gun, but you're sitting on the train trying to go to work. Look at this guy, Tom.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Look, look. He's just, look, look, look. Crazy people on the train. Nobody's doing anything. Yeah. Look, and he, by the way, this goes on. You can stop the run. This happens all the time. There's another one I saw where they were shooting outside. People are on you can stop the run. This happens all the time. There's a try
Starting point is 01:22:25 There's another one saw where they were shooting outside people on the bottom of the train one guys laying sideways Urinating all over the place. Okay, this guy stepped up the fact that that guy goes I hate to use the R word and bring in race You don't hate it you love it because it's all you have to go on. That's exactly right the fact that the victim to go on. That's exactly right. The fact that the victim, unfortunately this guy that was deranged and it was threatening people, was African American, reminds me of the t-shirt
Starting point is 01:22:52 in Almost Famous. You need that t-shirt. That t-shirt you love. It allows you to say everything you wanna say. So in this case, the fact that the assailant that was neutralized and perished, let's remember, he wasn't attacked. He was neutralized, restrained, and he perished after, because citizens took actions, including an African American citizen that was helping Penny hold them down when he was still waving his arms and struggling right? Why was he struggling because he wanted to get up and hurt people and so now you go on CNN
Starting point is 01:23:29 And you sit here, and you say race pay it played a part Yeah The part it plays is it gives you something to talk about it gives you something the United States is not a perfect Country yet. We've still got growth and things we have to do. But you know what? When you sit there and you refuse to look at the facts of what's happened and you use, so you refuse the facts and you use things to make your point and to bend it the other way, you are disingenuous, you are wrongheaded, and you are the racist that's inciting the violence going in the other direction I'm looking at you MSNBC
Starting point is 01:24:11 Adam yeah, there's your Tom's pissed. This is all sort of downstream from one thing which is critical race theory which needs a Victim mentality in order to basically exist. It's the whole oppressed versus the oppressor mentality. It's the hero versus the victim. We've seen this, but it's interesting all these buzzwords that get thrown out there. You know, the people on the right, what I've come to realize use the buzzwords like common sense, accountability, efficiency, merit. This is what these are the words they use. The people on the left use words like diversity, equity, inclusion.
Starting point is 01:24:50 It's not fair. It's racist. It's sexist. They're constantly making excuses for the reasons that they're right and the other side is wrong. We see what's going on here. And look, Trump was just elected because he was the least crazy person in the race. All right. So the left is eating themselves. And you
Starting point is 01:25:12 have this guy's got Scott Jennings out here just basically being being being dismantling CNN and they're paying him to do it. It's incredible. So what was the whole situation when he said, excuse me, ma'am, what was that whole conversation? Oh yeah, with Julie, whatever. Don't call me deer. Don't call me deer. You called me deer. Like guys, you're freaking out because some guy called you deer. It's just so interesting to me. It's just victim culture. Because I thought deer was more polite than crazy bitch. Sorry. How's your dear girlfriend doing? My dear girlfriend's doing okay PBD. Thank you about that. But what it is, it's upside up is down, left is right, hell is heaven. And it's the home invader who's basically
Starting point is 01:25:56 suing the guy who owns the home because you shot me because I entered your house illegally. He's like, Oh, you were mean to me when I tried to rape and kill your family out here, Grape, and now I'm suing you. It's so backwards and this is why common sense needs to be brought back to America. All right, let's go to the next one. So folks, with the last few weeks left until inauguration, Joe Biden decides to give Iran $10 billion in sanctions relief days after Trump won election. And at the same time, the U.S. Treasury turns frozen Russian assets into $20 billion loan for who?
Starting point is 01:26:35 Ukraine. Rob, if you can play the clip of KJP talking about the money they're giving out, watch this clip here, folks. Go ahead. Following the G7's June agreement and the president's October commitment, the United States has dispersed $20 billion to a new World Bank fund that will provide economic support for Ukraine. The U.S. and G7 loans will be paid back by the interests earned from Russia's immobilized sovereign
Starting point is 01:27:05 assets, increasingly putting the cost of the war on Russia, not on US taxpayers. After Russia's brutal invasion of Ukraine, the G7 made a commitment that Russian sovereign assets in our jurisdictions will remain immobilized until Russia ends its aggression and pays for the damages it has caused Ukraine. The United States and G7 are now making good on that commitment. Together we will leverage income earned from frozen Russian sovereign assets to provide a total of 50 billion dollars of extraordinary revenue acceleration, E ERA loans to Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:27:46 This will lend vital support to the people of Ukraine as they defend their country. And it also makes clear aggressors and tyrants will be responsible for the damage they cause. What about the drones in Jersey, you dumb idiot? Like $50 billion. Tom, I'm going to have a heart attack. Yep, and I'm going to help you. Have it. Have it.
Starting point is 01:28:13 OK, Rob, can you find us the chart for SIAD, which is the S&P 500 aerospace and defense index ETF. Yep, it's an ETF, yeah, S-I-A-D, or maybe dollar sign S-I-A-D, dollar sign S-I-A-D ETF chart. Yep, yep, there you go. What you can look at is over, and if that's like the day, you need to find it for like the year, but you'll notice these little spikes, and these little spikes happen right after we
Starting point is 01:28:48 give money to Ukraine. You want to know why? Because the investors in this know exactly what's going on and part of that money makes a U-turn back to blowing. General dynamics, Honeywell and people make shit that blows Wow. And it comes makes a U-turn. And that's what's going on. And when you go take SIAD, there you go. And it's an ETF.
Starting point is 01:29:15 And it's an ETF that tracks the stocks. And so every time we give money to Ukraine, you can watch it make a little pop up. It's Nancy Pelosi on steroids, ladies and gentlemen. And so who is unfreezing them lobbyists. This isn't Biden. Biden is drooling in the back somewhere. I'm wondering what's in the eggnog.
Starting point is 01:29:36 That's where Biden is. This is the shadow government that's been doing this for a while. Finding more money. Hey, what if we if we increase the Russian assets and just point them over here? And then the defense lobbyists, oh man, that's brilliant, do that. It's simple, I think that's all that's happening right now.
Starting point is 01:29:53 I think that's all that's been happening right now. Somebody that, obviously, that's not that smart to just sit there and grab their phone and do that. We know Ukraine has been corrupt forever, okay? so the fact that they're giving all this money, they're giving all this money, Tom, so you're saying, because we've given them so far almost- And now they're corrupt in Bentleys. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:30:14 We've given them almost $200 billion of your dollars, my dollars. So we give them this money, then they have to hire American companies to protect the bombs, the planes, everything. So the people that are sending it and approving it. Where do they get their war toys? They're not buying nukes, they're not buying heavy stuff, but where do they get their basic war toys? From us.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Right. Wow, so it's just a money laundering scheme. A big ass money laundering scheme. I believe that. I believe that. When they're going and meeting with Trump at all these meetings and Trump's shaking Macron's hand and almost breaks his shoulders
Starting point is 01:30:51 Looks like he's breaking his show and there's one part where Macron says hey, can you hug Zelensky's hand? I don't know if you saw that clip or not and then he comes back. Have you seen that clip though? But you still have to see Macron's handshake. Who shakes hands like this? Watch this. Oh boom! Get it up there! Get it up there DJT! He's never shaken hands.
Starting point is 01:31:10 He loves it. He's grimacing. Macron's like, I love hands. There's another one Rob. This guy's famous for his handshakes. Go back a little bit. When he gets out of the car? Can you type in Macron and Zelensky?
Starting point is 01:31:20 Just type in, no no, right there, just add Trump, Macron, Zelensky, handshake. Let's see if they have it. It's hilarious, right? That's the middle one right there. He's like, hey, you mind shaking Zelensky's hand? Yeah, I'll rip his arm off. Hey, come over here. Boom, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:34 I love the tap, the tap of the left. Like, he hits you twice, he almost ripped your arm off, and then he slaps your hand. What's Trump telling him? He's saying, hey, just so you know. The money's done. It's done. It's over, over bro get as much as you can when I'm here you better get your act together and go start dancing again go
Starting point is 01:31:50 put on a suit a little jerk start dancing again anyways the greatest fundraiser of all time you gotta give him some kind of credit well on what he's done Adam look you did an amazing episode about the history of income taxes or how to eliminate income taxes. I encourage you guys all out there to watch this. It's actually pretty eye popping and mind blowing how basically this works. Back to 1776, 100% of our, 99 point something percent of our federal revenue came from tariffs. It's an amazing explanation of how we can all basically pay 0% in income taxes, how it could be done.
Starting point is 01:32:31 You know, Doge, the Department of Government Efficiency is going to basically come in there and hopefully cut the fat clean house and make our government more efficient. Hopefully we can all pay a lot less in taxes. But what it was 1894 Supreme Court ruled that income taxes were unconstitutional 1913. They came out with the Revenue Act. That's what it was right there. Federal Reserve. Okay. Yeah. So the US government, I want to say this year brought in about $4.7 trillion income in taxes, but we spent what six trillion over six trillion. So we're in the black, we're in the negative.
Starting point is 01:33:08 We're not balancing the budget. The last time we balanced the budget was Clinton, I believe in his second term in the late 90s. Regardless, tariffs are a thing. The reason I bring that up is when you look at what we're spending our money on, right? Our biggest expenses are in the trillions that social security, healthcare, what is it? 1.6, 1.4, just massive, massive amounts. But when you go line by line, I want to say our defense budget is just slightly below a trillion, about 800, 900 billion. Is that what it is BBD? Defense, that's money that we're spending on defense. I want to say the money that we're paying just in to pay off our debt alone is what
Starting point is 01:33:50 a trillion bucks PBD. Okay, so when people are saying we're spending all this money in Ukraine, we're giving this money to Israel, Taiwan, 1%, 1% foreign aid. So do I want to see this money going all across the world? No, I would like to see it used at home, but let's not pretend that that is the biggest expenditure that we have in our balance sheet. This is pennies on the dollar to protect quote unquote our allies. Now, do I want to see more money flow, flow and flow Ukraine? I would like to see this war end for sure. But I will say with the fall of Syria, it sort of made us at least take a pause and
Starting point is 01:34:31 say maybe, maybe this is a return on investment that is worth the price. Why? Because let's say Iran falls next. Let's just say, let's say they fall next. Is that worth the price of a hundred billion dollars? I would say yes. So is this money have a return on investment? It might be so because if Syria, if Iran had money to basically give money to the Assad
Starting point is 01:34:56 regime, Bashar al-Assad would still be in power. If Putin wasn't fighting this war in Ukraine, he was their biggest backer, I want to say in Syria, they would have biggest backer, I want to say, in Syria, they would have basically bailed out Syria. So all I want to do is acknowledge the fact that maybe, just maybe, the fact that we are funding Ukraine as well as the EU and funding our allies that are our actual biggest enemies, Russia, Iran, possibly North Korea, might end up falling in the line. I absolutely disagree 1000% with any money going to especially Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Russia is not our enemy. Russia is not threatening us. We're the ones that are pushing this dude to F with us. I 1000% disagree not $1. You're gonna have to give me math, not just emotions. No, no, no. Just give me math, not emotions. Look how calm I am right now. If you think for right now that $200 billion to a losing
Starting point is 01:35:50 war because they're funneling this money and we still have people in the United States homeless and dying in North Carolina. Everyone uses the homeless thing. What do you mean they're homeless? There are. And veterans. You know what you can do to fix homelessness? You know what you do? Nothing. nothing Losers are gonna be losers. I'm sorry if it Adam You know what if you have a drug problem listen every how does someone end up homeless? So you just want to fund the homeless? That's what you want to do as if they're gonna just no no Adam because you give them a home
Starting point is 01:36:17 They're just gonna stop them out and just take care of themselves You're talking about you're gonna have to do even listen to what I said just saying I said people in North Carolina You're talking about you're gonna have to do did you even listen to what I said just saying I said people in North Carolina That were affected by a freaking hurricane that didn't have money because we're giving money to illegals in Ukraine That's part of the CBO. No timeout 1% of our budget. I want hold on Adam zero money going to any country until everything here is fixed I'm about everything I love you. You're living a pipe dream. No I'm not, no I'm not because you keep giving the money away. Every year we do this. No, but guess what?
Starting point is 01:36:49 If you want to solve the problems in America, start with the trillions that we're spending on healthcare. The trillion that we're spending on defense. The trillions that we're spending on social security. That's like saying, Adam, I'm broke. And me being like, hey Vinny, cancel your Netflix subscription. Nobody, stop spending three grand in rent Social Security. That's like saying, Adam, I'm broke, and me being like, hey Vinny, cancel your Netflix subscription. Nobody. Stop spending three grand in rent and move into a $1,200
Starting point is 01:37:11 apartment. That's going to move the needle. Not the $9.99 expense that you're spending on your reoccurring monthly expenditures. Start with the big expenses. I think there's really two sides here between the two of you. Not the little Netflix thing. I'm not supposed to interrupt anymore, but I'm going to push in a little bit here. And I hear what Vinnie's saying. We have an urgent incremental problem with all of these people that are still trying to recover from the hurricane in North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:37:36 In the middle of that urgent incremental problem, why do we have urgent incremental money going to Ukraine in a war? But you are right. If you step back to the US budget, he's right, Vinny, you step back to it and you look at it as an annual budget thing. The unfunded committed, you know, future promises and Medicare and Social Security is a freaking Mount Everest compared to some of the stuff. That's what he's saying. But but you're you're right I'm gonna side with Vinnie on this when I see an incremental issue with Americans at home that still haven't been able to get full
Starting point is 01:38:13 Relief from the hurricane. Why can't the government be putting the incremental dollars there then sending it across the ocean to a war? That's what you're saying You're getting emotional about it because you see the hardship in the people and I'm with you. Yeah, I feel you. Rob, I don't know if you can pull up the YouTube link. Everyone should watch this thing. But you did this episode. It came out what? Monday? Tuesday? Tom's got Vinny's back. Did you catch that? Tom's trying to say, I got you Vinny. Do me a favor, one of the editors.
Starting point is 01:38:39 I'm going to go to hell with that. I want you to just make a video of all the times they said, you know what? Adam is right. Adam is right. Adam is right. Adam is right right. Thank you because you say it from time to time you seem to just saying I'm just saying but this video right here It's called a short. No, this is I saw this last night. It's great. It's fantastic Yeah, what was your biggest takeaways from doing this from what from that? Yeah, just saying how we're gonna make a comment on the Russia Ukraine so the part about the yet Russia Ukraine thing that's kind of technical when you go through the history where Putin wants to join NATO. Which makes no sense to me.
Starting point is 01:39:12 No, no. He goes to Clinton and says, I want to join NATO. Clinton calls back eight minutes later and says, not right now. NATO exists because of Russia. No shit Sherlock. But what I'm saying is Putin's asking Yeah to join to say and give a message to the world. I also don't want war That's what Putin's saying to Clinton then why who does Clinton call? To call back and says not right now Why is it because if all of a sudden we seem that everything is under control and good, then they can't be expanding west, they can't be expanding more east, is that what it is?
Starting point is 01:39:49 When he wanted to kind of figure things out, how come they were doing that? By the way, here's the other part that they did, which I kind of love. Putin's move here was phenomenal, and I hope we do it in America. When all the protesting was taking place in Ukraine and Russia. You know what he blamed? He blamed the protest, particularly from the US, accusing Western-funded NGOs of inciting unrest, which by the way you know what he did in 2012? A law passed in 2012 in Russia requiring NGOs receiving foreign funding to register as foreign agents. Would we not love that in America, by the way,
Starting point is 01:40:27 if you're getting NGO money from somebody else, if Soros is doing what he's doing, hey man, I just wanna let you know, I'm XYZ. And then afterwards, when that's taking place, he wants to find a way to make things happen. Hey, let's make this work. No, we're gonna get closer. No, we're gonna go east.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Of course the guy's gonna be pissed off. So in regards to the other stuff with the taxes you were talking about, we already talked about that on the fact that the income taxes being unconstitutional as of 1894, 1913 becomes income taxes, then Federal Reserve, then we're okay with people taking money out of our pockets. I just am excited to see what will happen if we decide to cut a lot of our expenses. But anyways, let's go to the next story here. Next story I want to go to is, Rob, if you want to pull up Joy Reid, and then we got
Starting point is 01:41:12 Caitlin Clark, and then we should wrap up. Joy Reid from MSNBC says conservatism itself justifies violence. Matter of fact, I think she can do a better job saying it than I just said it. Go ahead, Robert. Joyless. We should not be surprised in this country that just re-elected Donald Trump. I mean, the reality is, you know, if you go back to the Trayvon Martin case, you go back before that, you can go back to the justification for lynching of conservatives, whether the
Starting point is 01:41:36 conservatives wearing the D uniform or the R uniform. Conservatism itself has justified violence. January 6th, burning down Tulsa and Wilmington, overthrowing the government there. If it's violence for the purposes they want, they're cool with it. If the victim is somebody that I don't like or the victim is someone who they feel deserves it, then a lot of times people are willing to justify violence. It's an unfortunate thing. It's a very American thing, right? I mean, we worship vigilante violence. We worship action heroes. We worship Charles Bronson and all these people who take it into their own hands. Al Capone.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Al Capone. You know, criminals and everything else like that. I think the sad part about this, frankly, is that I am not going to pretend that in a country that's been started and operated off of violence, that violence doesn't sometimes solve things. Oh my God. I mean, can we just play some videos from the Black Lives Matter protests? Can we play from, can we play for
Starting point is 01:42:25 what happened in Chicago in chas and Portland? I mean, you know, but you don't just play some of those videos. It drives me crazy. Let's talk about that. People like that. People like that. It's only, it's only, I don't wish it, but like she's not riding the train. She's not sitting there with a crazy guy saying, I'm going to kill somebody and I wanna go to jail. And dealing with that person, it's these people, it's the Robert De Niro's that are in their high rise Upper East Side buildings that are like, oh, I don't see it.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Who was the Jane Fonda sitting in front of Bill Maher smoking a cigar and drinking his freaking alcohol? They're like, I don't see it. Yeah, Jane, cause you're sitting in a mansion protected with security and you're not with the people We're the ones on the ground. We're the ones going I I really wish that somebody like that is put in a situation Where they're gonna need help yet, but there's no cops where there's nobody and a white guy is gonna save her ass or save a family Member and save something or the white guy goes. Hey listen joyless read I kind of want to help but I'm white and that guy's black
Starting point is 01:43:28 I have to leave you here I wish that happened. Continue your rant but let me let me say the people of Minneapolis and Portland two years later said they wanted their cops back. Yeah I remember that they fund the police and they're like no we want you back. How about refund the police? Exactly. It's you know what you've got it conservatism justifies violence. This is really, they are living in the coping and in the angst and in the anger and then the frustration and just the emotional, you know, Trump derangement system stress of post election reality because they, they hate that it happened.
Starting point is 01:44:02 They hate it. I will say what I've said before. It says, look, I, as a conservative, I happened, they hate it. I will say what I've said before. It says, look, I as a conservative, I just think they're wrong. I don't want anything bad to happen to Joy Reid. I wish that something good could happen that we could actually talk. I just think she's wrong.
Starting point is 01:44:17 She thinks I'm evil and that it is justified to use violence to shut me down. That is the reality, that is what's going on. Conservatism justifies violence. If you go the other way and you could say, well, liberalism is stealing with me through taxes, and you start going down those rabbit holes, it's bad. You end up in a place where people say,
Starting point is 01:44:40 let's take up arms against our oppressor because they're stealing with us in tax. No, we have to come to moderated viewpoints in a civil society and move people's minds to a new level of understanding. And what they say is you're evil and you should die. That's what Joy Reid is saying. That's what MSNBC is allowing her to say. If it was going the other way, that person would be off the air in five minutes.
Starting point is 01:45:06 And that's their point. Me, I don't hate Rachel Maddow. I think she's wrong. I don't hate Joy Reid. I think she's wrong. I actually like her hair do. Her hair is getting less trumpish. There's a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Well, she lives very economically. Doesn't spend a lot on hair. So the thing, and you know what? There's people that are on CNN. I think they're wrong and they annoy me. Do they annoy me? Yeah. Do they frustrate me? Yeah. But I don't want them dead. I don't want something bad to happen to them. I want them to come to understand why I understand what I understand. But they yell, they name call, they started cancel culture. Not us, not the conservatives. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:45:47 BizDoc out. But you would think MSNBC would get the, like, why aren't they losing money? They're getting pay cuts. Rachel Maddow went from 25 million to what? 20 million. I cannot, that should just prove to people. And it may not be over by the way. That negotiation may not stop at 20.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Oh yeah, it might be a little bit, but think about what that says. She gets paid, she was getting paid $25 million. That's how important their BS propaganda of hate and divisiveness. That's how much they have to pay her. But you would think MSNBC would get the picture. You're a businessman, so are you. Wouldn't you guys at this point change the tune? We're losing money. We're losing viewers. Enough is enough. They just can't help us. You know who she is?
Starting point is 01:46:31 You know what MSNBC is? You know those violin guys on the Titanic? The ship is going down. But like, no, no, no, we're gonna just keep on playing the music. They have to change. Vinny, the adults that own the company have changed their tune. She's not? No, no, no, no no no no they're cutting the salaries Those people are not attracting new viewers and they're for sale so the owners have said you know what this isn't working We're cutting everybody's salary. Let's go to and they're for sale. I'll try just yeah, I'll just go real quick again It's the same thing I said before it's just victim mentality
Starting point is 01:47:00 It's so hard to look in the mirror and just be like we got to do better it's just so easier to be like it's them it's them hard to look in the mirror and just be like, we got to do better. It's just so easier to be like, it's them. It's them. It's them. The the reality is one side are creators and builders and provide supply. The other side are takers, destroyers and they just make demands. And I truly and here's my point. There's no fixing joy read. But what can be fixed are the people that watch joy read and be like, time for me to turn the channel time for me to realize, wow, I've been watching this day in and day out night in night out for five years, 10 years, 20 years. Let me go flip to the channel and watch something different as to why America voted
Starting point is 01:47:41 for this sexist racist Hitler, basically identify what the other side want and your side lost and you'll find the answer. Let me read this next door here to you. Caitlin Clark is named Time Athlete of the Year, 22 years old. She had a record break in season with the Indiana Fever and the WNBA. She shattered six rookie records for points and assists, four franchise records, and multiple all-time NBA records including the most assists in a single game 19.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Reflecting on her impact, she stated, �I�ve been able to captivate so many people that have never watched women�s sports and then turn them into fans.� Before joining the WNBA, Clark became the highest scorer in college basketball history at Iowa, drawing a staggering 18.9 million viewers for March Madness Finale. Against South Carolina, second most watched women's sporting event in U.S. history, Times, Sean Gregory wrote, Good luck naming another player who altered the trajectory of the entire sports team within five months on the job.
Starting point is 01:48:47 And Caitlin Clark responds with the following. Adam, I'm going to come to you first. She says, acknowledged her privilege as a white person in a league built on the contributions of black players. In her time interview, she stated, I I wanna say I've earned every single thing, but as a white person, there is privilege. The more we can elevate black women, that's going to be a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 01:49:13 She also credited black basketball icons like Lisa Leslie, Maya Moore, for paving the way for success during an appearance on SNL, despite her unprecedented accomplishments, including all the records that she had. So rookie season criticism arose over her popularity. Golden State North South Island suggested that her stardom reflects the great white hope syndrome. Okay it's what they called her. And while the three-time MVP Aja Wilson claimed Clark's race was a huge contributor to to popularity. It
Starting point is 01:49:46 doesn't matter what we all do as black women. We're still going to be swept underneath the rug to Adam. I'm gonna come to you for look, we had this conversation. I don't know. Three months ago, six months ago, during the WNBA season. And I was like, Yeah, I don't give a shit. It's she's being catapulted to this amazing star. By the way, you know what? How many championships she won in college? Zero. She's over two. She didn't win. Is she a good player? Sure. The WNBA is a zombie company that loses money here and in your actually have good news. They were projected to lose $50 million this
Starting point is 01:50:26 year, but because of Creek and Clark and all her great success, they only lost $40 million. I mean, Hey, amazing. Great job, Kaitlin. Thank you. So there it is. They lost $40 million. Name me a company that continually loses money. Let's give her a trophy. Cause we only lost $10 million less than we expected. It's an absolute joke. It's absolutely absurd. Will she be a great WNBA player? Sure. I don't give a shit. If I actually want to see her actually warn her merit, put her in the NBA, have her play against Steph Curry, have her play against LeBron, have her play against Kevin Durant, have her play against the greatest players in the world, then show me what she does. The WNBA is a, is a zombie company that is subsidized by who? Lesbian.
Starting point is 01:51:10 The NBA. Yes, it is, I think 70% less than your thoughts, but that's all. But by the way, let me just address the racist thing right now. Cause that's part of it. I just have the whole notion that she's just been given white privilege really okay Tell that to the greatest black female athletes of all time tell that to Serena Williams the greatest female tennis player of all time Tell that to Flo Joe or Jackie Joyner Kersey the greatest track and field athletes all time tell that to Lisa Leslie or Diana Taurasi The WNBA players greatest players of all time tell it to the greatest gymnast of all time Simone Biles It's absolute ridiculous and she fell for it. She fell for the DEI LGBT thing rather than MEI
Starting point is 01:51:52 She deserved where she was at because she was a good player, but I have one suggestion for you Caitlin You're making I think I don't know what sponsors are ridiculous. She makes I don't know maybe 150 grand 250 grand She makes 24 million 28 million from her Nike deal. Go donate that to the rest of your home girls out there Yeah, that if you actually want to change the narrative go donate all your money Caitlin. Yeah, I'll take you one more What what does LeBron change salary this year? I think it's about 50 million bucks. Exactly So think of the WNBA they run the whole thing all year long and they end up with a $40 million loss. Let's just call it what it is. A cost for the cost of less than one LeBron James. They can run this massive diverse DEI program. The NBA can call the
Starting point is 01:52:38 WNBA. And that's the point. They're trying to elevate women's sports or trying to do it. And they see it as a marketing cost, Adam. It's a marketing cost. Because net net, hey guys, we're going to lose $40, $50 million bucks on this. You know what? Guess what? We'll keep trying. We'll keep doing it.
Starting point is 01:52:53 She just lost. Like, let me explain something to you. I was never going to watch a game. But if there was ever a chance that I was, it's all gone. Because you know what, Caitlin? You didn't make it to the WNBA because of the color of your skin. You played because you worked your ass off. Hours in the gym, sweat, sacrifice and everything.
Starting point is 01:53:10 It's not some imaginary head start that you got, okay? Let's be honest with each other. If this was a white politics, it was a thing, every broke ass white person in middle America would be dunking on all of us. I think somebody, Adam, she didn't change it. Somebody talked to her. Remember all the girls that were just all talking shit about her from the beginning. This was a tune change because that's how they roll. That's
Starting point is 01:53:31 the most that WNBA is woke as shit. The NBA is woke as shit and they had to tell her you better change your thing or we're not going to get behind you 100%. And she did. She bowed down and that's exactly what happened. And I'll never, I, I, I would have bought a Jersey done. What you would actually, what'll never, I would have bought a Jersey. Done. What? You would actually, what Jersey would you have bought? Clark.
Starting point is 01:53:50 I would never. So that's how, you know how I know you're a gay Vinny? That's how. I think it's very clever and it's an evil plot on Caitlin Clark's. I think she's trying to play nice and say some things, loosen up the defense and break her own records next year. Ooh, stop, you're so funny.
Starting point is 01:54:06 Tom, strategic. Tom's trying to get at it. That guy won the World Series. Here's what I'll say, I just got a couple thoughts and then we'll wrap up because we got certain things we gotta do. So, you know, I actually do wanna see WNBA succeed. You know, because there's nothing wrong
Starting point is 01:54:22 with girls competing with girls. There's nothing wrong with that. I actually like it. I think it's great if that's, when you have four kids, they all have different dreams. All you care about as a parent is, hey, what's your dream, kid? Let me help you get to it, right?
Starting point is 01:54:37 And I'd love if Brooklyn or Senna, they're like, hey daddy, I wanna be a basketball player. Let me help you. So you know, Saturday, Sunday, I would send her, she's shooting baskets, and we go back and forth to record as she's made six shots in a row and it's a cool little moment that we have together. I enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:54:53 Does she like playing basketball? No, we just do it as a form of exercise. Now we have, I don't mind this winning. I actually wanna see WNBA do well. But what she just did is exactly why I haven't watched a minute of an NBA game this year. I'm done. I'm unattracted. When NBA did the BLM thing and all the stuff in their NBA fields said BLM, BLM, BLM, and they were bitching about everything that's going on
Starting point is 01:55:26 and DeSantis is a bad guy, yet you did your NBA playoffs in Orlando, okay, where it's the only state that would allow you to do it and then you want to bitch about bad policies of Florida? You came to Florida. I was done with the NBA. LeBron James destroyed a great game and a lot of people can say stuff about him.
Starting point is 01:55:46 I still put him as a second greatest. I was hoping Caitlin would stay and say, look, I respect everybody. I've earned to be here. I've worked very hard. But to go to the victimhood mentality place, so disappointing, so unattractive that I couldn't even sit there and have my kids look up to her as a hero. That's the part. I want to find a kid for my daughters to look up to. We don't agree with victimhood mentality. Because we're Middle Eastern. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 01:56:17 It's like, oh, oh, we don't have white privilege. Their daddy is as Middle Eastern as it gets. We don't believe in that stuff. My dad was a cashier at a 99 cent store in Inglewood. The man never complained about hard work. He's 82 years old, about to turn 83. Good luck hearing this guy complain about his health and the pain and all this stuff that he has.
Starting point is 01:56:36 We don't have any kind of privilege about white people have it over us. I've never felt it that way before. I've never felt it that way with, well, this community is this, that community is this, this community is this. What an unattractive acceptance speech, what an unattractive acceptance speech by a 22-year-old
Starting point is 01:56:57 that's been fed all this stuff. Such a big turnoff. I'm so disappointed. I was wanting to take my girls to a Indiana Fever game. This is your court side to watch her play. I'm so disappointed. I was wanting to take my girls to a Indiana Fever game This is your court side to watch or play. I'm done I'm so upset and disappointed with this. You and me both. Why can't you just not make a comment like that? Yeah, just play the game. You're playing a game. WNBA would you like conservatives to watch the game? Of course they would. Would you like a capitalist to watch the game? Yep. Would you like libertarians to watch the game? Of course they would. Would you like capitalists to watch the game? Yep.
Starting point is 01:57:25 Would you like libertarians to watch the game? Would you like independence? Would you like Republicans to watch the game? You don't want them to watch the game? And you want to keep using them? No problem, go ahead. Just have your liberal audience watching WNBA. Go ahead, do your thing.
Starting point is 01:57:39 Not interested. BBD, I'm happy that you finally came to the good side. No, it's not it's not the point No your point when you were saying you and I our debate was that the WNBA doesn't have a shot at being profitable You know when you say 50 million to 40 million to this the biggest for many years Amazon was criticized because they weren't making profits and everybody is like listen if you're not comfortable with this Don't buy our stock don't expect dividends for years but if you're thinking long-term you're
Starting point is 01:58:10 eventually gonna make a lot of money he made people a lot of money in an interview last week he said something very interesting the guy says how does it feel having a net worth of two billion dollars to a 200 billion dollars he's actually don't look at it that way he He says how do you look at it? He says well Amazon is worth roughly 2.4 trillion dollars. He says yeah. He says I look at it as I've helped create 2.2 trillion dollars of wealth for other people. That's the milestone I celebrate. So I hope these guys figured out. I want businesses to do well. Every time a business goes out of business I don't like it but I cannot stand to the core when we hear these messages about victimhood it's so unattractive it's so annoying and a
Starting point is 01:58:55 parent like myself doesn't want to applaud someone like that right now we had a meeting this week about you know hey Pat what's the next book you want to write next book I want to write the next you know two to four years we're looking at what it is it takes a lot of time every time we this week about you know, hey Pat, what's the next book you want to write next book? I want to write the next you know, two to four years We're looking at what it is because it takes a lot of time every time we go through this You know, it's either something to do with business, but a lot of people are asking about fatherhood Here's the thing if I write a book on fatherhood first chapter, you know what it's gonna say read this book at your own risk Don't look at me as a great father We'll know if I'm a good father or not in 40 years
Starting point is 01:59:23 But if you want to apply this is how I raised my kids you want to do it great you don't I totally get it, but Such an unattractive thing. It's just not a track ten seconds Listen to this audience at your own risk. The WNBA will never succeed. It's never gonna make money It is a zombie organization It does not have mass market appeal or provide value like Amazon and Jeff Bezos did There's limited interest sports fans 80% of sports fans are men zero interest in the WNBA. It's a lesbian league that they're trying to shove down our
Starting point is 01:59:56 So we have no interest Adam. It's very hard to the proofs in the no, it's not no no, no, no, wait a minute isolate concerns hard to pull. The proof's in the pool. No it's not. No no. Wait a minute. Isolate concerns. It's all a shit show. None of it is working. You don't get 18.9 million viewers in a college championship game. That's more than the NBA finals. Yeah, I agree with you. I agree. You know why it's the only reason you get it? Unless Kaitlyn Clark goes back to college. You know why the reason you get it? She's gonna be in the WNBA. You know why you get it?
Starting point is 02:00:26 You know why you get it? It's because the world is obsessed with competition. Reece against Caitlin, all that stuff. They love competition. No. To me, she screwed up. Manufac- Big time, big time.
Starting point is 02:00:37 Caitlin's comments just got me to have this much interest in what's gonna happen in the sport. I'm out. Anyways. It peaked, you know how they say it peaked? WNBA, college, you keep going back to make yourself feel like it's two different stories.
Starting point is 02:00:49 She effed up because she could have brought a new audience to the WNBA, but she effed up because she caved. And the people in WNBA, the executive team, thinks they did the right thing. They just effed up. They had a half of the population. You know what a CMO should have done? Should have been like, hey, please, say what you say.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Try to say something to America. I love America. Greatest country in the world. That's all you have to say. Oh wow, okay, good. She loves the country. She loves America. I'm willing to support.
Starting point is 02:01:21 You want to say, yeah, but I have white privilege? Dude, we're out. So you just lost that part. I see exactly what you're saying how you want to segment different things yeah in my opinion yeah you can have it all baked in the cake I got it's all baked in the cake and that's why this link will never succeed this is why I love you this is why I want to recognize somebody you know when I said to you we had a few of these hats left to order so shout out to Brian Crows from Michigan I ordered 21 of them 21 few of these hats left to order. So shout out to Brian Crows from Michigan.
Starting point is 02:01:46 This guy ordered 21 of them. 21 hats? 21 of these for Christmas for his family. And by the way, the first 100 orders, we're getting the new Future Looks Bright Mugs that we just got that came in. So again, Christmas, December 15, we have all this Christmas gear.
Starting point is 02:01:59 This has gotta be shipped. They just came in, a thousand of these are being shipped out here today, but this badge goes, and once it goes, we're not ordering again until next year. So, go place your order. We will not sell these after Christmas. They're out, because the season is out.
Starting point is 02:02:17 So, go place your order, put it as a gift for a loved one for Merry Christmas. Anyways, Rob, do you have anything else tomorrow? We don't have anything, because tomorrow's Business Planning Workshop, right? Next week Oliver Stone, Tony Robbins, and two Home Team podcast. Oh, we have a bunch of things tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:02:31 Okay, sounds good. Holy moly! Well, God bless everybody. Have a great weekend. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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