PBD Podcast - OnlyFans, the Taliban, and the 7 Billion Dollar Man |PBD Podcast | EP 83

Episode Date: August 19, 2021

During episode 83 of the PBD Podcast, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Tom Zenner and Gerard Michaels to talk about topics such as Taliban Spokesman tweets freely, OnlyFans grows revenue 553% during p...andemic, Elon Musk received $6.7 billion in compensation in 2020, and much more! Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/-nVq9XvAIQQ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We are on episode number 83. Today we have Tom Zeneron and Gerard. And at this point, if Tom and Gerard go out to paste their gun, they're probably gonna disappear in about 250 days. Because it looks like every time I see them, they lose a pound of danger. They're looking better and better.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Wow, thanks. But you look great, man. Thanks. So this morning, I'm training with my guy and 45 minutes into it. He's the video recording all this. I'm doing all this stuff with him. At 45 minutes, he's like, how you feeling? I'm about to throw up this I'm doing all the stuff with them at 45 minutes
Starting point is 00:00:25 He's like how you feeling us. I'm about to throw up. I'm telling you right now He says you want to stop I said no, let's go and start going back and forth It was one of best trainings I had on a long time had a really good time. That was this morning That was not it already yeah 6 a.m. Was fantastic and yesterday Shout out to Aaron Singerman. We'd had a workout at Redcon gym. By the way, what I mean that Jim is have you been to oh my god It's incredible. It's like a it's a great gym. I mean, it's fantastic really enlighten You never want to go to any of the other. Yeah, I just want to be seen in those great And they're doing a bunch of different things to it
Starting point is 00:00:55 But it was a good like workout we did yesterday and then today we're gonna do a podcast workout You know what you would enjoy. This is so much fun orange theory workout wearing a mask Which is what you have to do in California. It's a wear a mask when you work out. Orange theory work out. That's a one hour very intense, you know, cardio weightlifting, a one hour workout. And you have to wear a mask. My body today, one of our councils co-founders, John Mason, he he goes to the dentist yesterday. The dentist says, do you have a mask? He says, what the... You're gonna work on my teeth.
Starting point is 00:01:30 How you gonna work on... Did you see the rules and the guidelines they just announced in the UK saying, even at bars when you drink alcohol, did you see that or no? Even at bars when you drink alcohol, you have to have a mask on. They're just gonna keep pushing until we were serious. But the dumbest I've heard about you at that point. The dumbest I've heard you had in Jersey have a mask on. Yeah, they're just going to keep pushing until we were shoes, but the dumbest I've heard yet, at that point, the dumbest I've heard yet is Jersey, and a wrestling tournament.
Starting point is 00:01:50 They wouldn't let the kids shake hands before or after the match because of stop guidelines, stop it. They're wrestling each other. Oh my God, you can go on and on and on, right? You're not allowed to shake hands before or after the match. Yeah, and they've started the whole thing in New York City where you have to prove if you're going to a restaurant that you've been vaccinated and that's just going to shut down more. I love it. The little league dash plays little league in the summer. You're
Starting point is 00:02:14 sliding into guys. You know, it's intense. You're playing a game for seven innings. And then at the end of the game, you can't shake their hands. You got a wave from the opposite dugout. Good game. NLA. Yeah. How's recall going? I mean, I saw what's his name? Meet Kevin was in Stephen Colbert talked about him yesterday. He's catch a moment. Yeah, I'll tell you what, you know, the mainstream media doesn't give anybody any any love whatsoever. You would think Larry Elder, you know, what a great story. If you think about him born and raised in Compton, a self-made man, African American, millionaire, just smart, achieved so much in his life, built a business, he gets nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:48 So you're going to have to do it all on your own, but I just think I think he's going to get recalled. I'm going about 52% to 48 right now that it's going to happen. I just have the balance. Yeah, I brought it with me. Here's the sample ballot right here. Me Kevin is on here, Kevin. He's really picking up some momentum.
Starting point is 00:03:03 CNNBC did a big story on him over the weekend. I saw that great story. I sent it to him. That's a great story. Yeah. Let me see. So where do I go for the battle? It's just like right when you get in there.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Oh, really? It's two options. Yes or no? So I'm mainly looking for the Xen or last name is what I'm looking for. That's the right inbox. Shonda, no, Shonda. Yeah, I'm looking. Well, she's satisfied being dictator of my house.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! I know Shandha is what I'm looking for. Well, she's satisfied being dictator of my house. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha the main names are at the top, right? So candidates to succeed governor Newsom as governor, if he is recalled vote for one. Michael Loeb's party reference non-Universal Read lecture is who he is. Dennis Lucy teacher Diego Martinez, and he got a bunch of different names. Well, he's not on that list. What's this list?
Starting point is 00:04:00 That's it. You continued. That's everybody. How many people you got on this? And he got a second page. So Larry Elder, continued it's that's everybody people you go to second page so Larry elder then it's meet kevin uh... and then john cox is below elder because most of the a person's not gonna go so how did they do when it just shows democrat or republican because that's how a lot of people would vote i think so to most of them are republican there's only a few
Starting point is 00:04:21 democrats i mean kevin is maybe one of two democrats always one of them who's running as a democrat jack clean mcgowen is running as a democrat john drake jeff hewitt running as a libertarian riverside county supervisor by the way i interviewed yesterday uh... doctor of what's his last name kind doctor bear is it bear us at our bear who's a full-blown communist professor at Riverside Community College. Who's professor to be a communist?
Starting point is 00:04:50 I never see that. I asked him, by the way, David, do we get along or do we get along? Great. You guys got along. What was the connection like? Long time, Brad. I'd be in, he says, look, I want to take you out to dinner. And when we go out to dinner, I want to pay for it. I'm like, you don, pay for your job. You want me to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:05:08 But I asked him a question. It was a very interesting question. He'd be blown away by his answer. He thinks, Mao and he thinks Stalin are two the greatest leaders of all time. OK. So I asked him a question. I said, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I said, say 22-year-old kid is watching this interview. And me and you are talking. I'm a capitalist. you're a communist. He says, yes. I said, this 22 year old kid has to choose. He's very ambitious, very driven, extremely motivated. He has a choice. What's better to society in the world?
Starting point is 00:05:37 He chooses to be the next Jeff Bezos. When the next 20 years, he creates 1.3 million jobs for America. Or he chooses to be a revolutionary leader like stalin who's better for society he said it's not even close it's not like i've got what fifty million people dot dot that i mean that's collateral damages you know that he said that he said but that's part of the sacrifice that's part of that's part of the sacrifice
Starting point is 00:06:00 he had a big deal with you and i'm telling you this was one of the most interesting in result i can't wait for you, this was one of the most interesting interviews. I can't wait for this thing to come. Audience has to see it. It was, but the part that you respect about, it was purely shameless. Like he wasn't a comedy. That's like, but no, it's noble in this.
Starting point is 00:06:17 It was so funny. I can see the two of you guys going out to dinner. He's like, no, no, Pat, I've got this. I've got this. And then going table to table, going like, I need $10 from you. I need $10 from you. But the sad thing is though, you can, you can realize what it is.
Starting point is 00:06:29 It's folly, the guy's crazy. But think about the influence he has on 30 people a day when he's throwing that message out there to his students. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I'm all kids at the age of 18, 19. And 18 year old would fall for it. Yeah, total. And 18 year old would fall for it.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Everybody's a common till they start paying taxes. Yeah, and that's right. And anyways, it was very interesting. By the way, Caitlin Jenner is also on the list, but they have them all the way at the bottom. All the way at the bottom. So what do you think is going to end up happening here by the way? You kind of have an idea or you kind of, because it's probably under news every day in California. Yes and no.
Starting point is 00:07:03 It's such propaganda. I mean, the LA Times is fully behind Gavin News some of the making you feel like you're stupid if you didn't think anything else. All, you know, so read Hastings kicked in $3 million, right? To him. But that was like three months ago. Yeah, but right now you're seeing that money in action
Starting point is 00:07:15 because it's all used on radio ads, radio and television. Interesting. Yeah, so every at the tag of every of these, every one of these commercials paid for by read Hastings by his donation. So it's a constant, I mean, you listen to the Dodgers game, you listen to anything, pop radio, boom, you're getting those commercials all the time. And it's basically shaming you into even think that you would vote yes on the recall.
Starting point is 00:07:35 It's saying it's all driven by right wing nut jobs and- Which is not bad though. It's not at all. Anti-vaxxers, things like that. The throwing the mask mandate into it at all, into it as well, but there is no question new sums nervous, not at all. He's snapping at press conferences.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Did you see the one that he snapped? Yes, he snapped at press. Pitching about all this, I'm like, whoa. And that's what happens when you have a media that just throws you softballs every single day. When they actually challenge you just a little bit. Are we able to put that video up, Kai or no? Were he saying stop bitching about, people are bitching about what's going on in California, you know, he to put that video up. Kai or no, were he saying, uh, uh, uh, stop bitching about people are bitching about
Starting point is 00:08:07 what's going on in California? You know, he's got that one voice. Just let me be corrupt. My God. How hard is this money? If I give it just let me be corrupt or handouts, you know, if the thing that makes me a little bit nervous is the male and valet, you know, how those are going to be counted, hopefully effectively.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Are you suggesting? I'm not suggesting anything. I'm just saying, when you mail that much stuff, you're relying on the US Postal Service and then it's a minimum wage worker's account. Did you see the video that's going viral right now where people are going around pulling the recall ballots out? Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:08:37 Out of mailboxes, right? Pretty crazy. Kai, I want to send it to you here in Eridrop. Tell me which one to send it to. I tried explaining this a couple of podcasts to go like to Adam, exactly like how ballot harvesting works in big cities and what they do. Like literally you put the ballot boxes in these giant section eight, you know, eight story, ten story developments and you go door to door and you say, hey, look, sign this,
Starting point is 00:08:59 sign this, sign this, sign this. Maybe you give them a small incentive, five dollars, whatever. Or you look at who they voted for, and you're like, I'll take it to older people, they're like, I'll take it for you, no problem. You clip it open and you're like, oh, that guy goes, no, absolutely not, dump this. So they ballot harvest, they would take a team of two people. All right, remember we talked about this,
Starting point is 00:09:17 there's two different moving factors in politics. You have the greedy, and you have the crazy. The crazy, not the greedy, are the ones on the ground donating their time spending all day going door to door. So those people aren't playing it straight. Those people aren't here to be civil servants for you. They're here to make sure their side wins. So with their taking these ballots, they're looking at which ballots benefit them and they're
Starting point is 00:09:38 ditching the other ones, man. You know, the crazy thing is every name on this ballot, you asked them a year ago, this wasn't on their radar screen. The last thing they probably thought they'd be doing is being the governor of the fifth biggest economy in the world. I mean, if we vote no, or yes, on removing him, someone on this list is going to be the governor.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And you wonder how prepared they are, how they can handle that super majority in California, the Democrats still have control of power. You know, so it's gonna be a tough job whoever gets it, but anything would be better than what we have. How is it not on our phones? We can verify literally everything.
Starting point is 00:10:09 How is it not on our phones? How is what not on our phones? Voting. Oh, how is voting not on our phones? How is it not digitized? How is it not, you take, like you literally can just face time in, you see that it's me and I say, I just verbally say, who it is, that's offensive though.
Starting point is 00:10:23 How dare you? How dare you assume people have, by the way people have by the way if you're watching this just out of curiosity if you watching this thumbs up you want to see this guy be recalled governor Newsom thumbs down just smash it right there when you see it on your phone it's not hard you don't need to type it just press thumbs up I want to see Newsom be recalled thumbs down no I kind of want to see it see in there because I don't think anybody can do better job than him. I'm curious. God, can you play that video? I just want to show the first 10 seconds. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:10:52 What the hell? He is going crazy sideways. Wait, wait, wait, go back, go back, you missed it, go back, go back a little bit. Okay, go ahead. Nice. If our homegrown team start focusing on what's right everybody outside this state is bitching about this state you should see what he continues saying by the way he can pause he really loses in this one press conference by the way it's not it's not a pretty side for him
Starting point is 00:11:21 yeah he's not used to being challenged and that's what happens yeah did you see Biden getting challenged yesterday? By George? Yes. Did you see that he had a little bit? Yeah, but you know what, that was a lot for George.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I thought so. I thought it was good for George. I mean, just the fact that he asked him a follow-up question and pushed him a little bit. Yeah, I love the guy on Brian Williams. I love that guy on Brian Williams. You know, Brian Williams, he teased it up. He teased it up saying, you have to give Biden credit.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Biden, he took it on the chin and he claimed responsibility. He didn't run from it. And the guy was like, was I wasn't the same thing? You guys are watching? I went off for one minute. And it was a direct call. I said, what are you talking about? We told them how to do it.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Didn't follow anything. Just decided to do it on his own. He told them this would happen. We begged him not to do it. And in the interview with George, George says, did you think this was gonna take place? Yes. Were you prepared for this and yes,
Starting point is 00:12:13 would you have done anything differently? No. Could you have done anything better? No. I mean, we can go back and let me know. But no. And then it was pretty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:23 You know, I'm not a veteran. I wasn't in the military, but I am just disgusted by what's going on for people that served over there and served in the, in the US Armed Forces. I mean, think about Pat Tillman. Remember when he died in what a big deal that was in Afghanistan? If I'm in France, he was a Detroit. No, Arizona, Cardinal. I went to ASU, straight Phoenix all the way.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And the group in San Jose. That was us. I know that was friendly fire, but it happened over there. And then you think, did everything they do, all the deaths. And the group in San Jose. That was us. I know that was friendly fire, but it happened over there. And then you think, did everything they do, all the deaths, was it for nothing? The Taliban was in charge when we came there. They're in charge again now.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I mean, it's almost like a big group. You know, it's, I actually, I got a bunch of, it's interesting you said at the time, because I got a bunch of messages. I have a few followers that are armed forces people. And they're awesome, awesome, awesome people. My buddy Jesse actually took, got shot over there and he has a tattoo around the bullet wounds
Starting point is 00:13:12 that say infidel, but he's a beast. But his whole thing was, I gotta tell you man, 20 years later, are we more secure or less secure? Like serious question. And the fact that you can even debate whether or not we're more secure or less secure today just goes to show you the failure and the waste. You know, and there was one guy who messaged me and said,
Starting point is 00:13:32 man, you know, it's incredible. This started with Americans jumping out of the world trade centers and it ends with Afghanis falling off of airplanes. Like, this is a humanitarian tragedy, man. Like, this is something that we're all gonna look at our, you know, while we were complicit. And, you know, there's a reason why Ron Paul was right
Starting point is 00:13:55 was trending on Twitter all day yesterday. Ron Paul was right. Ron Paul, you know, you don't like him. We, you know, you interviewed him. You, people, he's crazy. Maybe he's not the best messenger. Maybe you don't like his. You know, you interviewed them. People, he's crazy. Maybe he's not the best messenger. Maybe you don't like his son, Rand, whatever. If you look at what he said for the last 30 years
Starting point is 00:14:10 about American foreign policy and fiscal policy, particularly, I defy anybody to show me where he's been wrong, where he has been the lone person making sense in our federal government. Well, I had to one thing, Gerard said, are we safer or less safe? That's an easy answer. Look at Afghanistan's neighbor, China.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Okay, so China has unfettered access into Afghanistan right now. And the last thing too, I think Biden's messaging is so off right now. He should, as the commander-in-chief and as the president, be emphatic that we're getting everybody out. And basically their message
Starting point is 00:14:43 from the Department of Defense is, hey, if we can make the deadline, you know, that Biden has set. And if you can get to the Kabul airport, we'll get you out, but my God, I'm assuming special forces are inside that country right now helping us and doing it and just doing it under the radar. You know, if you're listening to this
Starting point is 00:14:59 and you are either an Afghani yourself, okay? And you just left, used to live over there, or you're a vet, marine armyi yourself, okay, and you just left. You used to live over there, or you're a vet, marine army, whatever maybe, and you were in Afghanistan, you did a tour. Please comment below or send us a text to 310-340-1132, okay, can you put that in the comment section? 310-340-1132, again, if you're an Afghani who lived there, or if you're somebody who served in a military and you were in Afghanistan, Texas at 310-340-1132, and Kai, try to get
Starting point is 00:15:34 some information about their background once they text you and find out what their background is. So, did you guys see the whole Twitter thing with Taliban and Trump and all that kind of training? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah of see the position. Why don't we start with that? Since we're already on this topic here, I know we got a lot of other things to go through.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Just some stories for folks to know about that we're gonna cover today is the Elon Musk receiving $6.7 billion on compensation in 2020. 11 times more than the second highest paid CEO. Only fans grows revenue 553% during pandemic, both times Xenner and G have some comments on that. and the first and and
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Starting point is 00:16:34 content. This is a rap, the rap story. Twitter will allow Taliban affiliated accounts to continue using its platform, despite its policies against glorification of violence and threats with the Taliban now regaining control over most of Afghanistan again after the Afghan government collapse this week social media companies are now forced to revisit their policies on pro-Taliban accounts either tried to recruit new members from around the globe or spreading this information about
Starting point is 00:16:57 the ongoing civil war a prominent Taliban spokesperson Zabi Luha Bujahid is still active on the sidewood over 300,000 followers and Bujahid was tweeting as recent as August 17 promoting a press conference unlike its competitors TikTok and Facebook. Twitter doesn't have an outright ban on Taliban accounts. Facebook told CNBC it will continue to enforce a ban on Taliban accounts that's been in place for several years and added that it is a terrorist Taliban accounts that's been in place for
Starting point is 00:17:24 organization and we have ban it from our services. Okay Taliban accounts that's been in place for some organization and we have banned it from our services. Okay, so that's that part. And Twitter slammed after Trump has banned but Taliban spokesperson tweets freely, you know, about the fall of this. So what do you think about the sole position Twitter station?
Starting point is 00:17:36 Excuse me, how do you describe that? It's, well, a lot of layers here, but okay, let's talk about the spokesperson for the Taliban. All right, so I can't really pronounce his name effectively, but it's Zabola ha, Mujaheed. I believe that's what it is. And he's constantly on there.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And by the way, he's not verified. Hold on, wait, wait. How many times did you rehearse that before you said that? You nailed that on the first try, man. Like seriously, you just got off the plane and you were like, what's wrong with a Mujaheed? I hope I was close enough.
Starting point is 00:18:03 That's frustrating. I don't know, man. I don't know, man. Yeah, that was partcha eat? I hope I was close enough to the truth. You know, man, man. You know, man. Yeah, that was part of my elaborate rules to get that name right today. It's flawless. 300,000 followers and he's not verified. If you're the person at Twitter in charge of verifying,
Starting point is 00:18:15 why don't you want the Taliban guy not mad at you and you verify and give him that checkmark right away. You know, if you watch this, if you peel it back, this is a PR campaign by the Taliban to project themselves as the kinder, more gentler, less oppressive Taliban. They're using it pretty effectively. TikTok has banned them, Facebook has banned them, Instagram obviously has banned them. They don't have a form, but they have one.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Look at it like this, how has banning Donald Trump hurt Twitter? It has not hurt them at all. Their revenue or their stock is up 16% this year. So they haven't suffered anything really from banning Trump. They're the ones being talked about right now. You know people are running to Twitter to see what they're saying. And it's working, I think, for the Taliban. I don't think you want to underestimate what they're saying. And it's working, I think, for the Taliban. I don't think you want to underestimate
Starting point is 00:19:05 what they're trying to accomplish here, and having what appears to be a willing accomplice with Twitter to let them do it. You know, I give you a story here. That's very challenging to see what is the right move to make. So in Iran, when Chomene was doing his thing and it was creating momentum, he did it with tapes, simply tapes, like cassette tapes, right?
Starting point is 00:19:29 And through cassette tapes from France, he kept sending it in from Paris, because he was an ex-Allem Paris, and he kept sending these tapes. And everybody slowly but surely said, did you hear what Chomene said? Did you hear what Chomene said? Did you hear what Chomene said?
Starting point is 00:19:40 So these tapes, you burn them and you give them to other people, right? And Sean knew this was happening. And Sean's concern in Iran was more the two-day party, which is a communist party than Homanie. And as people said, listen, you got to put a stop to this. And there was a part of Shah that said this guy's never gonna have the kind of power to come and take over Iran. And Iran was becoming the top five empire worldwide. Everybody's looking at him. He's a negotiation with all the bigger guys. 25 year contract, he strikes with France, with UK, with US, with Germany, all these guys.
Starting point is 00:20:14 So he's doing the right things. And in all of a sudden, one of his military guys says, look, I'm gonna say this to you one last time. We gotta take this guy out. We gotta take this out. Thank you where he was, they could get to him. They could do something to him. To stop all of this madness, he says he's not going to create that kind of momentum.
Starting point is 00:20:27 You have two different advisors. One advisor saying don't worry about it. It's not going to create that kind of momentum. Another group is saying what? We got to take this guy out. What ends up happening? We know what ends up happening. The regime comes, takes over revolution. 9 million people revolt over a message because Romani keeps in. We're going to give you free food, we're going to give you free housing, we're going to give you free all this stuff, and in Iran changes, you know, and now you know what the half a million people die, war, Iran's, you know, Iraq, all that mess. I think the hardest part, like the guy was talking to you, sitting at a communist professor, right? You're like, do you allow a guy like that to teach?
Starting point is 00:21:07 Is that the biggest threat? Do you allow somebody like this to be on Twitter? Do you allow somebody like this to recruit younger people who haven't yet shaped their level of thinking? Think about you at 16 years old, 17 years old. Think about what moved us at 16, 17, 18 years old. How easy, easy it was for us to be manipulated by somebody right some of us are stronger than others but to allow people like this to be on Twitter
Starting point is 00:21:31 I mean what do you do I actually I think you should but I you have to make sure if you're gonna allow him to be on Twitter you have to allow somebody else to be you can't let you all find Trump anybody I've been kicked off Twitter four times but here's a question to tell a fan still on there's a question though i don't know about that and here's why because to me uh... uh... uh... uh... go to your kids let's just get kids you're forty five years old you got two kids okay jarg uh... here are michael's okay you got two kids
Starting point is 00:22:00 are you okay with your kids kicking with anybody uh... yeah I think so. You sure? I don't have kids. It's hard for me to say. Yeah, I have a husband. Are you okay with your kids kicking in with anybody? Absolutely not. Because I'm actually opposed to him hanging out with some of his friends.
Starting point is 00:22:17 You know, I've identified people that I don't want him being around. But why not though? Because bad judgment, that other person does stupid things. You could be involved in it. At what age are you comfortable? First of all, you don't have a choice after at certain age. But what age are you like?
Starting point is 00:22:30 I can't do nothing about it. You know what, I hope I'll always have the relationship where I'll have that sway with them, and I know I will. But at the age of 21 or 20 or something, when you don't have day to day contact or whatever, you're not paying everything. Someone's gonna be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Yeah, sure. But at least, you'll be talking about that. Tom, if you've raised your kids, what if your kid can be the positive influence in that other kid that you don't like? day to day contact or whatever you're not paying everything. Someone's gonna be able to work. Yeah, sure. But he's gonna be trying to make it happen. Tom, if you raised your kids, right, what if your kid can be the positive influence in that other kid that you don't like? That's not my responsibility. I would rather protect him from something
Starting point is 00:22:53 that is not his fault that can't happen. You can't insulate him from ideas. No, but it's a wide open world. By the way, by the way, I agree. Okay, here's a random question for you. At what age did you see pot? 12. Okay, at what age did you see pot? Maybe 15 because I grew up in the stone ages.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Okay, so I'm the same age, 12, 13. At what age did you see cocaine? 14. 18. 18, you saw cocaine. Right, when I get to call it. Okay, at what age did you see a person you know, a person getting freaking trashed, hammered, dragged, you know, like absolutely lost their minds because how drunk they were. 14. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Latines. Latines for some people, maybe different because it could be your parent, right? Because some people don't ask me, you know, my mom or my dad. But I get what you're saying, but here's my point to you. The point I'm trying to make to you is, eventually you're going to see it. How old were you the first time you saw somebody pull a gun? How old were you the first time you saw a stabbing
Starting point is 00:23:52 or have you seen somebody die? Have you seen some of the things are going to happen? But to allow somebody that is purely about violence, Gerard. This is not like an opposing idea. There's a big difference between ideas. So to what do you call it? To the Shah, he was more worried about the idea of communism and he was less worried about a guy
Starting point is 00:24:18 that wanted to revolt and absolutely, he killed every one of his generals. The Chomeini killed every one of his generals. So. The Chomeini killed every one of his generals so which messaging do you have to be more worried about when you're running a nation? I need to look, I think we should be ever vigilant and I'm no fan of the Taliban, but also remember the IRA were a terrorist group
Starting point is 00:24:36 and now they're a legitimate political party as well. The IRA, you know, with Sainte-Fain, are a legitimate political party and they were terrorists, absolutely were and they were murdering terrorists. But political party and they were terrorists absolutely were and they were murdering terrorists but to them they were freedom fighters fighting in oppressive regime uh... i'm not pro-tellum and i find it i find the the this world we're living in so crazy that the week started with the department of homeland security essentially describing me as a terror threat and then i'm
Starting point is 00:25:02 listening to the taliban spokesman what are you describing you the well the the Department of Homeland Security put out a terror threat. Who is a high terrorist? People who are skeptical of COVID measures, people who love America and people who use the word patriotic and people who have a difference for the 9-11 holiday. Those are all, they was on Lester Holt. So I mean, so they basically described me, I'm like holy crap. Check, check. Yeah, I'm like what? And then, that's on NBC Nightly News,
Starting point is 00:25:35 that's how my week begins. Now my week is ending with me listening to the Taliban spokesperson, give American companies a lecture on free speech and be right about it. And I'm like, wait, it's something I can't believe. I started, well, at the Department of Homeland Security, and it ends with Taliban, like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:25:48 What message, what, what, what are you? Okay, not like saying, is there something for you to say, I don't think that's cool to allow on Twitter or anything. I think the market of ideas, I believe in humanity. I believe in the invisible hand. I think that we don't need laws telling people not to block the exit if there's a fire because there's a fire people will leave the exit. I think that the way you stamp out extremism
Starting point is 00:26:14 is by shining a light on it. I think that you don't have to amplify one voice or another. Extremism to me is cancer. You talk about homeani. I would have said take them out. Extremism to me is cancer. You talk about homeani. I would have said take them out. I would have said one hunt. And this is the problem I have with my libertarian friends
Starting point is 00:26:30 and this is where they get after me. I don't believe in the non-aggression principle. I don't. I think counter-punching all the time is stupid. I think some things you have to get in front of and you can save a lot of people, okay? The, you cannot negotiate. Part of that that's contradictory though, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:26:46 They some what you're saying because if that's what you're saying, isn't it, isn't it good to get ahead of some like this? Isn't it good to get ahead? Let's you say this guy that's got 300,000 followers. He converts one guy that's more aspirational than anybody else. And he becomes the next guy that costs a million lives. Can I tell you get ahead of tonight? But, but just to complete that thought, that's a great point. But you said it yourself. Homan was banned and that made him more popular. He went underground. This isn't, this, this The fact that there's nothing,
Starting point is 00:27:25 there's no place for these folks to go, it's not the left's fault, the left out competed, and they out-innovated. It's the right's fault. I don't think that's right. So I would say this, don't underestimate the Taliban. This is pure propaganda for them.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And I'm not so worried about one, some, an average person fallen for this. I'm worried about mainstream media bind into this crap. And then continuing the narrative that the Taliban has changed. And these guys are smart. And let's also remember one thing. They're not a government, all right?
Starting point is 00:27:54 They are not a government. They are extremists, radical Muslims that have taken over a country. You and this government is right now negotiating with the Taliban to let the troops be released. US is negotiating with the Taliban right now to allow the translators to be released. I mean, US is negotiating right now directly
Starting point is 00:28:13 with the Taliban. Yes, they won the press conference as they asked the general, hey, it sounds like you're negotiating with the Taliban and you're waiting on Taliban to allow you to get the troops to get out. Is that true? And did you see what the guy said?
Starting point is 00:28:25 What? It's like, uh, uh, General Milley and, uh, you guys gonna see that? It was the most awkward moment. Yeah. Like, that's what's happening right now. So yeah, I don't know. I think, um, I think I'm, I'm a part of you got to get ahead of it before it becomes a bigger problem.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I'm, I'm more from the mindset of only the paranoid survive and I think America is not paranoid enough right now. I think America is being a little bit too trusting, and casual, and comfortable, and the last time we were like that, and events happen on 9-11. I think people have to be a little bit more paranoid today with events that are taking place. That's my mindset. So, when you hear someone like this, let them on their Twitter. What for?
Starting point is 00:29:11 But think about it. But Twitter. Everybody's talking about Twitter every single day. I mean, they're probably going to let it ride until they pull an ISIS and start showing decapitations or something, and then you have to get rid of it. Yeah, look, to me, I think the marketplace of ideas wins, right? If they're out there saying, like you said the other day, where they're like, we're gonna be great with women
Starting point is 00:29:33 and then people on Twitter are like, see, they've changed and they're like, oh, cool, so. What do we, we're gonna be great with women? Yeah, but so I can wear whatever I want? No, no, no, no. So I mean, eventually, so I mean, let's just say what is this? So you're saying kind of like the propaganda will mold the next generation into being unreasonable,
Starting point is 00:29:53 is that the idea? Like, do you feel your kid's generation is gonna lack the processing skills to be able to see extremism for what it is? I'm talking to Gatsad, okay. The Gatsad, yeah great guy, we're going back and forth, which we're trying to get it, they've come out here to be on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:30:11 But in the interview, I said, let me ask you a question, do you think the more shows we have on TV that show whatever maybe has influence over kids? No, I said, okay, while I'm talking to them, I said, do you think the more we see LGBTQ, the more we see Nickelodeon with a trans person coming out and doing shows on kids, do you think that influence is kids to think they're gay or to want to be gay? He says, no. I said, great. Well, I'm like, maybe you're right. Maybe you're not. I don't know. So I go online
Starting point is 00:30:42 and I type in the increase percentage of population being part of the're not, I don't know. So I go online and I type in, the increase percentage of population being part of the LGBTQ community. I don't know if you guys have seen this or not. In the last 30 years, it went from 1.1% to 2% to 3% to 5%. Today it's 5.4%. Why is it 5.4%? Did we all of a sudden have a lot of people in the LGBTQ community last 20 years?
Starting point is 00:31:03 I don't know. Is it an influence? Is it shows? Is it TV? Is it somebody saying, maybe I am? It's the questioning, right? It's like my friend when we went to the nightclub at a gay club in Tennessee,
Starting point is 00:31:13 which was the frickin' best club I've ever been in my life. It was like the Studio 54 of Tennessee underground place call connection. It was happening. If you went there Friday or Saturday, you had a monopoly because it was on the bell bottles on every night. I had the bell bottles.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I had my, you should see the clothes I was wearing. My hero was freaking Tony Manero. I mean, that was my hero. I was the middle-aged Tony Manero. And I don't know if you know who Tony Manero is, is that a nice thing to be staying alive? So I'd go there and I would do the whole thing. And one day, one guy comes up to me and he says,
Starting point is 00:31:44 hey, I like you. And he grabs him in the wrong places. Nowadays, a guy would do the whole thing and then one day one guy comes up to him and he says, hey, you know, I like you and he grabs him in the wrong places. Nowadays a guy would do time, but he, like, my, my guy's like flipping out. Yeah. Because he's a soldier and he says, you have been what I'm am before. And he says what? Settle. He says, I know you were in a Navy.
Starting point is 00:31:59 He says, no. And he says, I like women. He says, he asked the question. And he says, how do you know you don't like men if you've never been with one So now that line has been asked for many many times because this club I ran this Sure, so I said dude. I just know. Yeah, okay. I like girls. Yeah, I can tell you. It's gravity. I like girls anyways So we're driving back is two o'clock in the morning. No joke is two o'clock in the morning no joke is two-clock in the morning my friend is like bro but how do I know what is the matter with you buddy he says but how do I know yeah how do I know yeah maybe there's only one way to I'm like are you seriously doing this to yourself he says
Starting point is 00:32:39 but you know do you know that was the topic of discussion you got a no man in you in it we're doing pushups. We're running six miles. He's asking at the end of Chowhawk. But I was conflicted. He was conflicted. Yeah. The point I'm trying to make to you is. How I'm confused now. Yeah. What's part of the hot dog do you like better? The meat of the bun. When you get a hot dog, the meat of the bun,
Starting point is 00:33:01 it looks more appetizing to it. You know where this goes to. You know where this goes to. Think about and the reason why I'm convinced with this is the follow-on thing. And I'll bring you to something that's very familiar to you and that's porn. The glide you look to your left.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Finally! Something I know. So, we're trying to, one of our friends, one of my friends, Armenian friends from Glendale, said, you know, what happened with Brandy, Laurie Brandy. She was upset, she was a fan of yours because you defended her, and but she was upset at everybody else, but Nikki Benz wants to come on.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Okay, Nikki Benz wants to come and be a guest on value payment. So I said, okay, great, so we're conversation, all this stuff. So she wants to be a, because believe it or not, she's a conservative, she's a conservative. Okay, so go back and think about when your first time you watch porn.
Starting point is 00:33:49 So first time you watch porn, Gerard. Six, seven, I mean, what was it for you? It was a sunny afternoon, a January Saturday. Today, do not listen to today's podcast, let me prep you. But do you actually remember how old you were? How old were you the first time? I know, I can be honest with you, and you're gonna think I'm approved, but probably had a bachelor party for me. And I'm not joking.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I just didn't have access to, yeah, in my 20s. Okay. Yeah. I can tell you, I was, I don't know how old I was, but I know I was young enough that you had to physically come up and change the television channels on the TV. You were determined. Okay. So I was a kid. I'm I tried to click the I tried to click the channels We took today. Yeah, and it was you remember the TV for people that for people that don't know before the internet existed
Starting point is 00:34:36 It would be on TV and it would be like all blacked out unless you paid for the channel It would have but you'd see like little Snip it especially in your little snippets that came out. And then I remember being a kid, being like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What was that? On the ground porn is what you were watching. Was that my answer? Here's a question for you.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Here's a question for you. Let's try to get the Nickelodeon. Here's a question for you. Question for you. Did you watch porn first or did you have sex first? Porn. All right, so watch this. So, you met?
Starting point is 00:34:58 Hard copy, by the way, like Playboy, hard copy pornography. I got you. But what I'm saying to you is if you watched porn before you had sex you were somewhat messed up Oh, so you know that yeah, I don't know if you don't appreciate so you guys are where I'm going with this 100% Man, that's what I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, what I'm trying to tell you is if you watched porn then you had sex and Let you say the girl you had sex with she'd been with others. She's like what the hell is a matter? Yeah, I mean you talk to any marriage councilor that's destroying marriage that's what I say so when I get your friend
Starting point is 00:35:28 command do I get I get so many I get questions from spouses that say hey we have a porn issue in the family we would like to see how we can fix this point issue because everything is point and porn is more exciting than the real thing but men have this thought Pamela Anderson talked about it with her sons yeah she said, I have to tell my boys, what the way people have sex and porn is, nah, you have sex and fat. That's not what it is. So where am I going with this?
Starting point is 00:35:52 If porn made young boys think this is a certain way of having sex that pleases people just because it's a video that people are screaming, and then you go in the bedroom and you're like, shit, that's the complete, maybe some of the stuff, but some of the stuff It's not Then this goes back to the Taliban. How I Because because the people that I'm dead
Starting point is 00:36:19 Stay with me How I took this story from a gay club to porn back to this. This is like a Biden speech came to life. It's like, how do I wear this? Come on, man. The point I'm trying to make to you is influence, influence. I'm telling you, my concern is influence. You leave people like this on the wrong person who doesn't know what's going to say, but how do you know? But how do you know? But how do you, maybe America does suck. Maybe we don't, maybe we are the ones that kill, maybe we are a terrible empire.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Maybe we are, that's the part that you have to be a little bit careful with. That's the part you have to be a little bit careful with. They have to be reasoned again, no, Papi, because people aren't getting on trash floats and heading into the ocean to escape people of America. People aren't clinging to what their vision is. You know what their vision is.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Okay, so what's the Communist vision? Tell me Communist vision. Oh man. What's Communist vision? To eliminate greed, to eliminate billionaires, to eliminate the rich, to eliminate the bourgeoisie. I think that's BS. I think that their vision is their self-empowerment
Starting point is 00:37:16 under the guise of humanitarianism. You know, I think it's control and control for sure. But let me ask you a question. What's the socialist vision? I don't see any terrorist. There's slightly different, but let's just say it's pretty close to each other right? That's like 52nd Avenue 53rd Avenue sure It's just the economic engine behind Capitalism I mean, no that's pretty common isn't for me but but but the Taliban you think they're you think their vision is
Starting point is 00:37:39 Control and you think that's what it is. Yeah. No, that's not their vision It's an interesting thing with the Taliban and all these freedom fighters though. Because all they care about is eliminating authority. And then what happens when all you've done your whole life is challenge authority and fight authority, then you become the authority. Did you see some of the other images that were out with these guys on bumper cars
Starting point is 00:37:58 and they took over an amusement park and they were having fun? I mean, they're trying to humanize themselves. And I agree, people are vulnerable to this messaging without a doubt. And the point I made earlier too is, once mainstream media starts buying into it, which they probably already are, then there's another way they're going to be subjected
Starting point is 00:38:14 to it. And you mentioned kids. I mean, kids are getting bombarded every single direction. They go college, from professors, Hollywood, in elementary school right now. Here's the next thing that they're going to do. The kids are're going to segregate them, whether they're wearing, have been vaccinated yet. For the FDA hasn't approved the vaccine and you're talking about 12. By the way, Culver City in LA just is the first school just taking LA that is mandating that 12 and
Starting point is 00:38:37 above have to be vaccinated to go to school. All right. They've got this whole whole. Okay. Culver City school district. I still working covers. Yes, right by Sony. Yes Yes, right at Bally's but good this way you got to get vaccinated if you're 12 and up Yep to go to school this year. They just came out with it yesterday yesterday or Tuesday I know and it will fall like dominoes in the rest of LA I guarantee he's here's what I'm trying to like What's the formula? People come to America for options and choices. How do you lead with force?
Starting point is 00:39:08 You know, for years, we took flu shots and we took vaccines. It was a choice. You took it. This is when you do force. It's not a marketing strategy that's effective. Plus, those vaccines were FDA approved. I think you get a lot of people that are just a little bit afraid
Starting point is 00:39:22 of the fact that it's not FDA approved. Although it could happen, I heard by the end of August, but yeah, that's what kids are dealing with right now. Well, look, to go back and that's a whole nother ball of wax, man, that the segregation that they're doing right now and the stratifying of society between the obedient and disobedient is something that's really, really troublesome. But I look, I have to admit, and maybe the reason that I feel the way that I feel about this is because after 9-11 happened, I grew up in the shadow of the towers.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I became, there's no other way to say it, like Islamophobic, I really did. I for a long time, for years after, I was one of these dudes that was like, not screw Muslims, they were all the same, they're this and that, like they destroyed these people. And dude, I was wrong, I was one of these dudes that was like not screw Muslims, they're all the same, they're this and that, like they destroyed these people. And dude, I was wrong. I was young, you know, and I was flat out wrong.
Starting point is 00:40:11 So when it comes to this, you know, I have to wonder, man, like so much of what's going on in Afghanistan is the fault of our government. George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, the entire, you know, establishment regime for whatever reason, whether it was oil, whether it was access, whether it was poppy, whatever reason we were there to, we weren't there for the right reasons and we destroyed the entire generation, man. And, you know, this is our cross the barren some ways. And I'm not, I look, I'm not pro Taliban. I gotta say that as long as I can again, but I also don't wanna fall into that same category of,
Starting point is 00:40:49 we're the good guys, they're the bad guys. We're on the side of righteousness, they're on the side of you. But you know what, we have to have some enemies, right? Because right now, I mean, we do have legit enemies, but no one is hearing about that. And if you're a kid, the messaging you're hearing, and if you're a vulnerable person is,
Starting point is 00:41:04 the only enemy is someone that doesn't believe in what you believe politically, or maybe socially. That is the only enemy, and that is the only message these people here. We don't talk about threats to this country and the legit enemies that we have. I am way more worried about the Fox and the henhouse than I am about the Taliban, 6,000 miles from me.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I have to be honest. I am way, way, way more concerned about Ivy League professors than I am about the Taliban right now. I am way way way more concerned about media executives inside my own country than I am about the Taliban. You're worried about shaping up the mindset. I am. You're more worried about that Kami professor than you're worried about the Taliban. No doubt about it. No doubt about it. So you are the Shah. You're thinking like the Shah. You're worried about the Taliban. No doubt about it. No doubt about it. So you are the Shah. You're thinking like the Shah.
Starting point is 00:41:47 You're worried about a mindset spreading. Is what you're worried about. I am worried about things that I think that we can control. So here's a question for you. I got a question for you. Okay. Historically, do you know how the Communist membership
Starting point is 00:41:58 has done? Have you ever studied how to come in the United States? In the United States, have you looked at the news? What have you noticed? What have you found? That when times are bad, membership goes up, when times are good, membership goes down. Fraud out.
Starting point is 00:42:08 And by the way, how bad is a drop off when times are good? Yeah. It's almost to the point where they have to make times bad. Of course, of course, to recruit. But when the times are great, what happens to their membership? They fall away. They fall away, how bad?
Starting point is 00:42:21 Is it by 5% or like 80%? Yeah, everybody grows up essentially. Everybody grows up 80%. Okay, let me ask you a question. Percentage wise, go from 1930, 1940. When did car marks start really creating momentum? What, what's your, car marks was the 19th century?
Starting point is 00:42:37 But yeah, I would say the Bolshevik revolution end of World War One. So let's just go from there. Let's go 20. Okay, let's go 20 30s to today. Okay, go 20, 30 still today. Percentage wise, percentage wise of communism, membership, in US, is it the same today as it was 90 years ago?
Starting point is 00:42:58 It's an interesting question. Percentage wise? Yeah, I'm not talking number. I'm asking person. Yeah, it's an interesting question. Yeah, it's probably lower. Okay, but I think it has way more people in the mainstream sympathetic to the idea Sympathetic is different, but there are a lot of sympathetic people, you know Moms are sympathetic to but you know, it's okay. You know, you should forgive them
Starting point is 00:43:18 It's okay. It's okay to be sympathetic, but the membership has declined. Is that a fair thing? I would But the membership has declined. Is that a fair thing? I would take the hands. I mean, listen, USSR is one of the reasons. Or it's rebranded. The actual communist party. China is now got an element of capitalism in it. It's the government that's communism
Starting point is 00:43:33 that wants to control the narrative. But the business, you can go out there and make money in China. Yeah, it's futile, but yeah. Okay, so all I'm saying to you is the idea of communism has gradually lost momentum. Is that fair? Percentage. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Okay. So now let me flip the question on you. Here's a question for you. Go from 40 years ago, 1981 to today, 1981 to today, Taliban, Hezbollah, extremist, any of those like not Muslim, the religion, that's the biggest, I'm not talking to religion. I'm not talking about the people that you deal with who are Muslim who are peaceful, loving, caring, they're just like, how are you Muslim?
Starting point is 00:44:12 I'm a Muslim. I've followed some of the stuff that Prophet Muhammad talked about, but has the Taliban, his Bollah, ISIS, have they increased in the last 40 years? Yes. Percentage, why? Absolutely. Is it by small percentages, by big percentage?
Starting point is 00:44:26 Well, it's by a big percentage, and a lot of that's our doing. So what I'm saying, I don't disagree, but their number one enemy in the world is America. Because everything America stands for, they don't stand for. Everything America stands for, they don't stand for. They want to do whatever they can
Starting point is 00:44:46 for everybody who represents the westernized mindset to be taken off of the facity earth. Anything to do to get rid of them. Point I'm trying to make to you is, the one you're worried about sometimes is proven that it doesn't work. There are just a bunch of people that are going around, you know, crying, whining.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Well, it's not fair. Let me tell you that these capulists, all they want to do is put people to work and it's like slavery and it's this, this, this. The ultimate slavery is communism. Let's face it, that's the ultimate slavery. But the one you have to worry about is guys like this. So for me when they're okay with them creating this kind
Starting point is 00:45:19 of momentum, just look at the percentage of growth the last 40 years. It validates what we have to really be careful with. They flat out hate you. They don't not like you. They hate you. They want you dead. They wish you were not here.
Starting point is 00:45:32 It's a very different mindset when you think about that. Are you guys okay if we go to a softer top? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty serious work for some top. I'm taking a break. I'm gonna brandy love. Let me say what I'm doing. I'm gonna say, what I'm doing over the years.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I'm gonna say, what I'm doing. Training this one, okay, I'm trying to do it. Okay, let to sing it over the years. I'm going to sing it over the years. I'm going to sing it over the years. I'm going to sing it over the years. Okay. Let me ask you. Do we have a phone to make a call or no? I got a guy, my sergeant from the army just texted me from 20, from 1998, which by the way,
Starting point is 00:45:57 did he ever find out? Did he ever find out? She's so don't you, that's what? How long has he lived in any sort of crazy if he's listening? He actually went to that club with me, but I don't, I have a story of his, but I'm not going to tell it. Maybe he'll tell it, but maybe he's not going to tell it. It's a pretty crazy story.
Starting point is 00:46:15 But here, let me get Felix, if you're ready, I'm calling you. Tell me, text me and tell me, yes, I'll call you if you're ready. Freaking one to find this guy. How many times does this guy scream at you? Who? This guy we at you? Who? This guy we're calling. Oh, by the way, let me just tell you. Like, do you know what his size is?
Starting point is 00:46:29 Felix, let's see if he's on or listening to this before I call this guy. Felix is, oh my gosh, Felix, I got like a billion stories. Did you tell, did you say he was like, your corporate, or what, who was he? Officer. I was a specialist. He was a sergeant and he was the sergeant of supply.
Starting point is 00:46:50 All right, let's see if we can get a hold of this guy. Let's get this guy. We hear Dan's music in the background. Felix Gutierrez, how are you? I'm doing pretty good. How about yourself, Patrick? I am doing good, man. So what's the word?
Starting point is 00:47:03 What are you thinking about? What's going on here with Afghanistan? Tell us, tell the audience who you are, tell our relationship and give us your idea about what's going on in Afghanistan. You know, so Patrick, you know, I saw your video and of course, like, you know, rest of the world, I'm sure that, you know, they look at those videos and shock. I mean, I've had a lot of family and friends and even people I serve with, you know, just kind of give a little bit of my background, like you were saying. I'm 20 years, you know, army retired. I have five combat tours, three in M.B. and an Afghanistan. Actually,
Starting point is 00:47:32 three in B. and an Iraq and one in Afghanistan. So I spent over four years of my life, you know, in the Middle East between 2003 and 2011. Our relationship, you know, I mean Patrick, we served together back in Fort Campbell, you know, back in the day. And, you know, I mean Patrick, we served together back in Fort Campbell, you know, back in the day, and you know, I remember you telling me stories about life, you know, and I ran growing up. And so, you know, as far as, you know, I didn't get that perspective of living in the Middle East until, of course, I spent, you know, a good chunk of my life there. And, you know, what I see is just tragic, you know, it's unfortunate. And like, I think I put on your post, you know, the fact that, you know, it's unfortunate and like I think I put on your post, you know the fact that
Starting point is 00:48:07 You know when I hopped on a plane I remember the Colonel briefing us, you know, I'm there and hang it for Campbell It was like how many guys been been do I rack and you know, of course I raised my hand It was my second tour at the time I did three tours total and he was like a lot of you think you might know what you step it into But like when you go to Afghanistan, it's a completely different world And I'm like what's he talking about? And of course he said it's kind of like the time you know the time is still so until I was in charge of you know Afghanistan detail where I was in charge of basically 10 people
Starting point is 00:48:36 we worked at the entry control points and so you know I dealt with them the every day I fed them I trained them and it was just just blew me away just how far they were behind to the modern world. Felix, can you paint a picture for the rest of us? Iraq, Afghanistan, so modernized education, you know, level of lifestyle, what it was like, maybe, maybe paint a picture for some that don't know. Okay, so I mean, I guess the best way I can put it is, like, you know, my parents originally grew up in Mexico, right? And so when, as an American, I'd go to Mexico, I would always be in shock of like, it's like a kind of a second world country, you know, which is not as developed as America,
Starting point is 00:49:17 the technology infrastructure. And when I went to, when I went to Iraq, you know, I kind of identified it as kind of like, I would say, not say like Mexico, you know, I kind of identified it as kind of like, I would say, not say like Mexico, but as far as this infrastructure and the people and the education, you know, but maybe just a little bit behind. But when you go to Afghanistan,
Starting point is 00:49:33 I mean, Patrick, it's literally like, you're going three thousand years back in time. I mean, I know there's, you do people will say, well, they see the buildings, they see all that. But I'm talking about the everyday individual, the people, the farmers, the country countryman the people that are out there they're just literally behind the modern world I mean even when I went to Iraq I remember I was in charge of interpreters
Starting point is 00:49:54 so I remember they used to tell me and I racked and I think about this perspective that they were shut off to the rest of the world they weren weren't labeled to have only certain channels, right? So Saddam Hussein controlled the information flow that came in there. So their perspective of Americans was completely different until we were there and they saw how friendly we were, how they were there to help them when they were given that. Or they don't even, they're shut off to the rest of the world.
Starting point is 00:50:20 They don't know what the rest of the world looks like. If that makes any sense. Now of course, Felix, when you, when you, so you being there and amongst all the other soldiers, you're around officers, you're around, some majors, you're around, some first class, first sergeants, captains, colonels, generals,
Starting point is 00:50:37 you're on all these guys. Behind closed doors, when it's just sitting around shooting, you know, you just have a conversation together. What was the position of most of the soldiers? I'm talking more the leadership, not necessarily those who are not leading. Is there position amongst each other? Why the hell are we here in the first place? This should never happen.
Starting point is 00:50:56 What the hell are we doing? It's a waste of money. You know, we could be back. It's causing so many people's lives or was it more from the standpoint of, we got to do our part to help. It's so necessary for us to be here if we weren't here be such a shit show it'd be much worse what was the language of the leaders not victims and complainers who don't want to be the who can't wait to come back i'm talking
Starting point is 00:51:15 those who are aspirational leaders are one they want to move up and ranks in a military what was the conversation behind closed doors i mean i mean honestly i really feel that even as leaders even for for some of the even the soldiers is like you know you you you know you might join them the military for different reasons you know respect for whatever they joined for but once you go there you mean you're human patric and you should know this right you know you're like wow i i i can't believe people live like this or they are
Starting point is 00:51:43 they have lies like this and so you know I think overall for a lot of the sentiment is what you basically are looking for is that we realize that this is a real problem And the fact that you know if we don't change and I think I send you a text saying that we need to be there for a hundred years And I know of course that's gonna cost the taxpayers a lot of money I know there's people that have to go there and serve but it's not just america's problem it's the world's problem i feel that god it's a feel of your position is
Starting point is 00:52:12 that we should have never pulled out of this last week or you know ten days ago we shouldn't have pulled out i mean from a humanitarian mean i mean i mean i'm sure is people look at and all right i mean of course i don't course, I don't write the checkbook and I know that that's a cost for American taxpayers and I know there's people that actually have to go there and serve it and potentially risk their lives. But I think from a humanitarian effort,
Starting point is 00:52:36 I mean, you're looking at it that these are people and individuals like anyone else. And so you're there and see it and realize like how good you have it here in America And you should know that you know you're telling me the stories of you know when you used to get bombed there in Iran But it is just completely opposite out there and it's like you know when you see the kids and they're just like you give them I have a picture and I wish I had it and this isn't Iraq so this is back in 2003 when I was convoyed back from I had it and this is an Iraq. So this is back in 2003 when I was convoyed back from being there.
Starting point is 00:53:07 And I remember stopping in our convoy, literally like five in the morning and some kid ran up to me. And I'm little like given, and he was just like, can I get like he was like water, water, and I give him a bottle of water. And you thought I would have given this guy, this kid, you know, $10,000. I mean, it's just a different mindset.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And until you have that experience, you know, I think it's very moving. And people, I think overall, even the world, even as Americans, I think we're very empathetic to people's causes. And of course, you want to help a lot of people. And I know it's tough. Someone's going to step up, but I don't think it's just America's responsibility. It's the world's responsibility. Hey, Felix. Oh, sorry, buddy. Go ahead. This is Tom Zenner,
Starting point is 00:53:47 I have a quick question for you with your perspective, fighting the Taliban when you were deployed there. A, what potential do they have to actually change? Do you buy this that they could be a different version of the Taliban right now? And B, what would realistically happen to any Americans or contractors that work for America
Starting point is 00:54:03 as interpreter or anything else? What would happen to them if they were left behind and not rescued? I'll be honest, I mean, the hatred from them is that's all they know, that's all they've been raised on. When I said they have to be there for 100 years, you have to change a mindset and that doesn't happen. I mean, think about, was there in 2008 to, you know, to 2009 for 13 months. And, you know, it's just completely different minds that you have to go in there and change, you know, it's a generational thing. And when I say 100 years, these people just think different. Well, I was mainly wondering, will the Taliban kill any Americans or their contractors left
Starting point is 00:54:41 behind or their lives in danger if we don't get them out. And do you believe in the Taliban can change? From my perspective, I would say yes. I would say yes, they would be because they were grown to hate Americans and they don't know any better. I mean, they think we're there to take the resources and change the way of life and their ideology. And if they feel that way, I mean, they don't think anything about us you know
Starting point is 00:55:06 I mean it's just they're they're their language of how they speak you know the follow-up question for you here's a follow-up question for you let's let's get a little bit more logical so all the stuff you said I'm fully with you I totally under I I remember when I got on the flight to Lufthansa flight when I left Iran, July 15th of 89, and we crossed the border and the flight attendant says, we can officially serve alcohol. Everybody started cheering and clapping because they finally fell free.
Starting point is 00:55:34 You did not feel free until I left the Iranian border. That's when we finally fell free. So I understand that part of it, but the other part of it, some people may say, well, we got 800 military bases in 70 plus countries. China's got one military base by Suez Canal, you know, the Djibouti is their base that they have in Djibouti, and we got all these other bases. We're spending all this money. We're spending all this taxpayer's money. Should we go out there and try to solve every country's problems, or should we let them handle it themselves? I mean, to be honest with you, if you think it might not be our problem, but if they're
Starting point is 00:56:09 harboring terrorism, then they view us as the enemy. I mean, just whether you want to believe it or not, in our eyes, we never would have believed 9-11 would have ever happened. And prior to 9-11, that was inconceivable, Patrick. But now it's conceivable. That makes any sense. Of course. So, what I think, in my perspective, is that whether we like it or not, and whether
Starting point is 00:56:33 what it costs, if we ignore that, then what potentially harbor will make 9-11 be even worse. Think about what happened with COVID. I mean, God forbid if they were had the intelligence or had the technology to do to harbor you know biological warfare. If anything the world is taught that that's that's that's the real threat. You know I'm saying. How do you how do you how strongly do you feel about our military today? Like today how strong do you feel about the policies we're making today with the military like do you feel safer today than you did maybe ten years ago twenty years ago tell me about how you feel right now would be safer today than it was ten or twenty years ago
Starting point is 00:57:13 you know Patrick i i think that's a great question i'm i'll share this with you my son is currently in the army my my all-time i've had he's he's serving at four Campbell the place that we serve together so So you know, I have friends that are still in and the perspective You know that I get is that you know The military is very dynamic just like it should be it's constantly changing sometimes changing for the good sometimes changing for the bad And just the direction even when I got out you know, I got out in 2013 when I retired after 20 years is that You know that we're trying to be, and this is, quote me if I'm crazy,
Starting point is 00:57:48 if you say that, I think we're just trying to be too overly sensitive. I mean, unfortunately, the military is not a business, it's not a public organization. I think that's how they try to run it today to be able to politically correct. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I mean, I know our leaders have a tough job. You know, whether I don't want to be critical of the commander in chief. You know, the best you can do is, hey, when I was in the army, we're going to support them 100%. That's our job, especially being a leader. And it's, honestly, I think if it honestly I think if we don't if we don't if we don't if we ignore that problem it might not affect us now but it might affect us 10 years from now so you think another 9.11 is eminent and it
Starting point is 00:58:38 just the chances of it increased yeah absolutely increase I don't know percentage wise but I mean yeah I mean I mean, look at they were waiting they were waiting in the wings for years for us to pull out. Well Felix, can I first of all, what I'm curious about is when are you running for mayor senate congress governor? When you're running for some kind of political stuff? You know, it's funny, Patrick, when I moved to Texas, when I moved to Texas, when I visit you in California, you were hinting about moving to Texas, I don't know what they put in the water here I'll be honest. I absolutely love it here in Texas
Starting point is 00:59:11 I mean just think about it. I literally live like probably 15 miles where Tesla's doing new factory Where are you? You're in Austin, right? If I remember we made an Austin So yeah, so if I move for me if I run for for political office I think I'll start off as mayor and then work my way up. Well, do your thing, but I'm Felix. You listen, you know, shit's gonna come out. People gonna know how hard you party. Not I don't you can't you can't hide that stuff because you know, when can I tell the people a couple stories about you? Is that a really Patrick? I honestly, I'll be I'll be I tell stories to you my kids, you know, 99% of them are positive. I would do this with-
Starting point is 00:59:47 We went to spring break together, but we'll show that for another- Which one is that? Is that Laveela? Is that Panama City? Yeah, I told them when you were doing that dance contest, and then all of a sudden, you jumped through the whole contest. Hard body contest, I remember that. I forgot about that one until you brought it up, but drove and you remember when we had trophies in your office
Starting point is 01:00:07 Yeah, you know what's crazy about this by the way that club was a legit club club LaVilla was whole MTV rap all that stuff that they were doing it But we drove this is how bad the situation was we had a truck that only fed with fit three people Me Bradford and Felix would sit in the front in the back for nine hours. Four people were sleeping. Wow. And we would drive. Obviously the stuff is illegal. We don't recommend it.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Kids, please do not do this. One of these is the Romney thing that yet. You know, the story is going to come back for us. I love a bar, man. If there is a guy you want to party with, it's Felix. Felix is the guy you want to party with. Felix was a guy. He would have 25 beers the night before
Starting point is 01:00:45 and he would go out, run everybody the next day at five o'clock in the morning. I hate that, just. That's freaking Felix. He would run five minute miles, six minute miles, just piss everybody off, do all the push-up score, perfect PT score, and then at night we'd have 12 beers together.
Starting point is 01:00:58 By the way, Felix and I, we watch cocktails together. Felix, how many times have you watched him be talking? Do we watch that thing probably like a hundred times we watch cocktails nonstop and uh... there's a certain we watch what was it cocktails what was a Patrick Swayze movie you had roadhouse road roadhouse and there's a few movies we would watch and uh... speaking movies uh... i want to kind of give you uh... if you ever want
Starting point is 01:01:22 uh... i know you're doing the year uh... your mafia. Yeah. Yeah. Your mafia movie, I've got some good perspective of good fellas that no one's ever done before. So you ever want to sit down and do it with me? I'm going to do it with you.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I'm going to do something. I'll see if good fellas, I'm your guy. We will, I am definitely looking forward to that. One of these days, you got to come out to Florida. We'll do something together. Felix, could you have your own brother give everybody my best. You said Florida will you move to Florida? I'm in Florida. I mean, I'm in Florida, they'll write. I don't
Starting point is 01:01:52 want to Texas anymore. I'm in Florida. They'll I've been here for, uh, what is it now? Seven months, six months, seven months. We've been down here. Florida. Well, I, I definitely know Anita said that she wanted to do with the value payment towards. Well, definitely, uh, come out that way to Florida sometime and get the tour and get a chance to catch up. Thank you for having me on the show. I wish my best for you and your family and hopefully we'll have a chance to catch up soon.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Appreciate you buddy. Take care. Bye bye. A lot of freaking guy, man. This guy, he was a pool hustler, sick player. Like, maybe he was a best player on the entire base out of 30,000 soldiers but we go to place here's what this guy would do his five six hundred twenty five pounds Felix we go to a billyard hall or pool hall right he would start and he would start you know he'd talk and trashed
Starting point is 01:02:38 to everybody and here's what he would do he would say something say something I'm like challenge him challenge him I'm on do. He would say say something. Say something. And he's like challenge him. Challenge him. I dare you. I'm on the other set. He says, say something. You see that guy, that guy's my friend. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Say you knew it. Fight everybody. And I'm like, Felix, you're just trying to hang out. Yeah. Come on. Say something. Watch what's going to happen. We're going to destroy you.
Starting point is 01:03:02 And we have to let me ask that. Yeah. When it's always awkward, man. Like, former veterans, do you like when people like, thank you for your service? When they're like, thank you for your service. It's a little weird. It's a little weird.
Starting point is 01:03:12 But, you know, what I tell you when somebody does that, it's also, you wanna be appreciated. You know, you want somebody to value, this is 20 years you're talking about. The one that stores you didn't talk about. He was in a humvee when they went over and I I don't know what it was he Felix drove there was like an explosion and he was in there. He saw this So
Starting point is 01:03:31 The messes with you a little bit. When you get out of it right now He's been away from it for nearly a decade, but when you get out of it at first It's mentally and emotionally challenging. So yeah, but it does it's always great when people say that it's always great when people say that So okay, so Felix that was great. Let's continue stories here Which one do you want to go to let's go to to to to Jarrah's favorite story only fan Rose revenue 553% during pandemic and
Starting point is 01:04:01 That's 390 million dollars after lockdown left consumers looking for an attainment and outward out-of-world Performers looking for place to provide Report to FFT the London based platform offers sex workers fitness influencers and celebrities like rapper Cardi B and Avenue to connect directly with the fans and get paid via subscription services plus tips It's users base grew from a less than 20 million to 120 million over 300 creators earned more than a million dollars in 2020. Wow. But only NSFW mean not safe in general,
Starting point is 01:04:38 not safe for work. Earlier this year, subscribers face backlash after rapper, bad bad B, how do you say that? Say that, baby. Bad, baby broke the only fans record by making a million dollars and less than six hours after turning 18, only the week before.
Starting point is 01:04:54 So that's all this. Yeah, that was the whole creepy thing. That whole thing with her, Danielle Bregoli, bad, baby. Like that's a weird thing where like, she's been hyper sexualized since she was like 15 years old and there was like a countdown for her to turn 18 and all these other things man That's a whole different king kibbutl You know what I you know what I like most about the about porn pat
Starting point is 01:05:12 There we go You're my Pbd podcast Instagram queue up your short clip the uh Not they they are the most innovative digital marketplace in the world. Everything in the digital marketplace follows their lead. And what you're seeing here is the future of entertainment. You're seeing personalized entertainment. You're seeing access.
Starting point is 01:05:36 People are literally, they're not. You can get porn for free everywhere. They're not paying for the nudity. They're paying for the interaction. They're paying for the connection. They're paying for the connection. They're paying for the time. Feeling special. Yes, this is going, this right here,
Starting point is 01:05:51 mark my words, this is the future of sports. This is the future of the music industry. There's gonna be people who are paying money to be in the dugout after a strikeout with a guy. You're gonna, there's gonna be an iPad and I'm gonna be able to curse off Mike Stan for blowing my fantasy game or I'm gonna be able to be like Mike Stan. Here's five grand. I just, I just won 10 grand on on the game because that home run you hit just locked in the over. It's gonna be one
Starting point is 01:06:22 on one access. It's gonna be real time. I was on tour with Catfish Coolie, one of the coolest dudes ever. National headliner sells out rooms, theaters, 500 seats, 1200 seats. His wife has an only fans account. She's very open about it. I'm not breaking any news here. She makes more money on only fans than he does.
Starting point is 01:06:40 He's a national headline act. He's got three and a half million followers. She makes more money on her only fans than he makes as a national headline act. He's got three and a half million followers. She makes more money on her only fans than he makes as a national headline. So the market place is there. This is a proof of concept for access for all entertainment. They only fans said that they wanna get out
Starting point is 01:06:57 of the pornography game. They wanna get out of the not safe for work game. I said, okay, yeah, good luck with that. What if they just said they did that? What would happen? Say they did that. They lose happen? Say they did that. They lose five hundred and fifty through fifty two percent of their revenue.
Starting point is 01:07:10 You know, I mean, sex still sells. But listen, I think it's been great for the porn industry. I think it's been great for the porn industry. I used to do comedy shows with porn stars. And so that's why Pat's always, you know, joking, like I did comedy shows with Lisa Ann and these other, these are decent human beings, man, they're human beings, they're sex workers. This is how they've, they've all, they've all had trauma in their life, they've
Starting point is 01:07:32 overcome their trauma. We may not agree with their life decisions, but they're, they're business people, they are entrepreneurs, they're hard workers, and they're fun people, man. And this allows them an opportunity to work, to apply their craft in a safe environment where they don't have to go somewhere and, you know, be in a, dude, look, the real problem with porn is the porn industry, right? Less than outside of the morals, like everybody can have their own, you know, views on the morals, the industry is scale-y as hell. This allows these people to make incredible amounts of money and avoid all of those pitfalls.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Now, you talked about this earlier, and I'll leave this up to you because I don't have kids. I would be very, very wary of Snapchat, of only fans. If I had a 16, 17 or 18 year old daughter, this would be like something, that kept me up at night. I'd be like, absolutely not. Let me see your phone, let me see your accounts.
Starting point is 01:08:23 You'd have to police the hell out of that because the temptations just too great. The temptation is just there. I mean, like you said, this girl, Daniel Bergoli, made a million dollars at 18 years old, but that's who she is for the rest of her life now, right? So, and not that there's anything wrong with that, but at the same time, it's just like,
Starting point is 01:08:39 I don't know, like, you're gonna want that for your family. Go have a few. Yeah, there you go. You know, talk about a perfect storm. I don't think any company has benefited more from the pandemic than only fan or whatever this only fans. Yeah, because it's not a stock price like Tesla or Zoom.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Right. What is this again with the name of this company? It's subscribers. This is a subscription based service and they're growing. And by the way, now we know I know and wants to go to the office anymore, right? I mean, here's your answer right here because there's no such thing as NSFW because nobody goes to the office.
Starting point is 01:09:11 They're at home. So this is the perfect storm for them and they've captured lightning in a bottle and you know, they're pretty smart about how they do it because it's not complex and they reward the entertainers. It's 80%. They keep 80%. It's a brilliant, this is a 20% deal. So this is a company that two did two billion in revenue last year which if you think about the second largest health club chain in the country lifetime fitness that's about
Starting point is 01:09:32 what they do in revenue two billion you know with two hundred and fifty locations all of this is easily scalable though this is a business model that's scalable yeah of course um so three hundred people became how many of the three hundred millionaires are in the porn industry do you think? Probably 95% of them? No, I don't think so. I think it's probably gonna be, let's see. But by the way, let's know, I worked in Chatsworth, Bally's for a while.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Chatsworth at 1.80% of all the porn was produced in Chatsworth, California. A lot of our members were porn stars. Late at night when I would close the gym. That by Van Nijs? Yeah, right by Van Nij. Late at night when I would close the gym. That by Van Nijs. Yeah, right by Van Nijs. At midnight when I would close the gym, they would always come and say,
Starting point is 01:10:10 hey, you mind if we, because we would only that on an outdoor pool. It's like, you mind if we just kick it outside. And I'm like, listen guys, kick it fine. Anything like that you can't, because I'm gonna get in trouble. So I would stay with them for an hour, but the life is not the,
Starting point is 01:10:21 just, we're not here glorifying the life, the life, that world, we're not here glorifying the life. The life, that world, to go into that world, you have to have a pretty rough life to want to go into that world. That's not, there is issues upbringing family, parents, father, mother. There's a lot of issues there before you get into it.
Starting point is 01:10:38 For every one story's like, oh, ever since I was a kid, you don't hear those stuff. There's a few industries you don't hear. You don't hear somebody saying, ever since I was a kid, I wanted to go into porn. Ever since I was a kid, I wanted, you don't hear those that's the same. There's a few industries you don't hear. You don't hear somebody saying, ever since I was a kid, I wanted to go to Poland, ever since I was a kid, I wanted to go to this industry. It happens because of desperation many times and the money can be good.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Now, drugs, alcohol, all of that stuff, it's a messy industry to be a part of, but it is what it is and there's a market for it, right? So can they change their model and get away with it? Am I surprised that they grew 553%? No. Could that have been a thousand percent? Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:14 300 people making a million dollars is that attractive to a lot of people? Yes. Could this be a model that's gonna continue to grow for a long time to come? I don't think it's gonna go away. Let me ask you. Do you think Instagram would be where it is today?
Starting point is 01:11:24 If it wasn't for girls with thongs on taking pictures every day, or girls with the stringiest of bikinis, that doesn't seem to bother people morally. You're an influencer, you're a model, but then if you just take off that little piece of string, now all of a sudden you're immoral, I have a tough time with that. You're an Instagram model, you're an influencer, Calvin Klein will give you $10,000 to do a spot, right?
Starting point is 01:11:51 Chloe Jenner can do whatever she wants. And also I think Kim Kardashian kind of changed all this stuff. Kim Kardashian did porn to get famous. She all but admits it now that it was the mother's idea to put out this porn tape so that she was no longer Paris Hilton's closet organizer. Now she becomes this international brand. And how many other people have done the same thing, the team mom, this and that.
Starting point is 01:12:11 It was like porn was something that, oh my God, I can't believe this happened with Pam Anderson in time. At least now it's something people do to like jump start their career. It's not. It gets you attention. By the way, they don't have an app yet, right? So this is all just online. Do you think if they get an app, that makes it grow?
Starting point is 01:12:26 Man, that's crazy. So you're gonna be sitting on the subway in New York and someone's got their phone out with their only fans. It's gotta get an in. All right, let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Let's go to Daniel Craig reveals he won't be leaving his kids any inheritance.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Okay. So Daniel Craig, who is who? He's a 007. He's James Bond, right? Good looking guy, rock star. An absolute start of a guy, says he will not believe in his kids any money to his children. From his inheritance, the 53-year-old James Bond star
Starting point is 01:12:53 was asked about leaving his $2 money and said, isn't they're an old adage? That if you die a rich person, you fail. Daniel continued in his quote to Candace Magazine, I think Andrew Carnegie and American industrials gave away what in today's money would have been $11 billion, which shows how rich he was because I'll bet he kept some of it too. He added. But I don't want to leave great sums to the next generation. I think inheritance is quite distasteful.
Starting point is 01:13:21 My philosophy is get rid of it or give it away before you go. Thoughts. I had two thoughts and two questions when I first heard about this story. Number one, how much is Daniel Craig worth? All right, he's done five bond movies. He's gonna do one more, he's worth 160 million. So we are talking about a significant amount of money
Starting point is 01:13:37 that could be passed on. Here's my second question, and I legitimately came up with this, and it's this, how much does he hate his kids? Because he clearly does. I mean, you have to dislike your children to not want to give them part of what you've earned. And I will not waver from that.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Now, so he was married in the 90s, and so he's got a child that's 29 now, a daughter. I think her name is Fiona. Okay, so he's got a daughter. With Rachel Weiss? No, he's got a young child with Rachel Weiss. Okay. This kid, that's pretty salt.
Starting point is 01:14:08 I mean, that's, well, I'm gonna stay with this. Okay, let's see. Okay, so then he also has a stepchild that's 15. And my thought is, did that stepchild annoy you so much that you don't want to pass on some money? I don't get it. I think there has to be some rationale. By the way, he's trying to justify this quote,
Starting point is 01:14:25 isn't there an old adage that if you die a rich person, you failed? No, there isn't. I've never heard that in my life. And I think you just made that up, Daniel Craig. I don't believe that is an old adage. So I think you have to get to the root of this. If you dive deep and try to figure this out
Starting point is 01:14:40 on a psychological basis with Daniel Craig, I think he has a dislike for his children or one of them, and he doesn't want to give him any money. I will see Daniel Craig's quotes and I will match him and raise him. A famous British soccer player named George Best has the greatest quote about dying with money of all time. He's on his deathbed and he had spent for people
Starting point is 01:15:00 that don't know. He was a British playboy and he was known for lavish parties and being a swinger and stuff like that. And he's sitting there on his death bed and he goes, uh, 90% of my money, I spent on fast cars and faster women and the other 10% I wasted. And you know what? Hey, man, it's your money, do what you want with it. But I will say this, okay?
Starting point is 01:15:24 And this goes back to when I was coaching and I was coaching young kids. And I was always fascinated by how different the kids, the wealthy kids were than their parents, especially the hard work in parents, like dudes that were contractors and stuff like that and Mason's would really, really made a life for themselves. And the kids were like, pretty soft, man.
Starting point is 01:15:42 And I, one day I asked them, I asked this one dude, I'm not gonna say his name, I was like dude, you are the toughest dude I've ever met in my life. Like you've got rock hands. Like I ask your kids to do 10 push-ups and they cry. Like what happened here, man? He goes, it's my wife, dude. He's like, you'll see one day if you have money.
Starting point is 01:15:59 You give your kids everything you never had, and they will turn into everything you never work. And that's kind of his, you know, his mason philosophy. Man, look, that's not universal, but I think there's something to it. Like, I think there's, I don't think Daniel Craig is going to follow through with it, but I think there's something to the salvo of making his kids go, hey, you better work. I'm not going to leave you this. I'm not going to leave you this life.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Maybe he will, Maybe he won't But that to me is a message to his kids going you guys better get to it Yeah, you know, I just pulled up right now An article from CNBC billionaires who said they're not leaving their kids their fortunes Okay, so you got Zuckerberg at the top then you have Bill Gates who said It will mean they will have to find a way On their own and he says it it's not a favor to find a way on their own. And he says it's not a favor to kids
Starting point is 01:16:48 to have them have huge sums of wealth. It distorts anything they might do creating their own path. Chuck Feney, same thing, Warren Buffett, same thing, enough money so they would feel they could do anything, but not much that they could do nothing Michael Bloomberg same thing He said if you want to do something for your children and show how much you love them the single best thing by far It's to support organization that will create a better world for them and their children
Starting point is 01:17:17 So not giving them the money if only there was somebody maybe in the room who had accumulated vast sums of money and had children that maybe Could have an opinion on this so you know, you know what I would say about this somebody maybe in the room who had accumulated vast sums of money and had children that maybe could have an opinion on this. You know what I would say about this? Here's what I would say, here's what I would say about this. I don't know who we are on recently, Kai. Maybe you'll remember this with your memory where he said, tell me who's Carnegie's great, great, great, great grandson right now that we all know about.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Tell me, who is it? Tell me who is the current Vanderbilt billionaire that the money got given to that we know. Interesting. Tell me who is the current, you know, Rockefeller that's a great, you know, interesting first. So tell me, tell me the richest man's
Starting point is 01:17:59 great, great, great, grandkids that still have the money. Tell me. You ever met anybody named Medici? Yeah, so interesting. So I interviewed a guy, I don't know what his name was, but I'm an interview to guy from Seattle. Do you remember his name, the guy from Seattle who was dealing with all the billionaires in Seattle
Starting point is 01:18:13 and his job was family planning? And one of the families he dealt with was this big fund, out of Templeton, Franklin Templeton fund. The owner was worth $5 billion. Mark Demo's. Mark Demo's. Mark Demo's, right? And his job was to prevent these kids from committing suicide,
Starting point is 01:18:30 become and drug dealers, become drug addicts, drink an alcohol, and pretty much killing themselves, and wasting their lives. Because these billionaires went out there, made all the money, gave their kids everything they wanted, made their lives easy, and they screwed their whole things up. This right here takes me back to a book I read years ago by Jim Stovall called the Ultimate Gift.
Starting point is 01:18:50 I don't know if you've read it or not. I probably bought a few thousand copies and I always have my guys read it. Jim Stovall on the moon, the whole story is about a guy named Red Stevens. He's from a very long-come family, simple guy, comes, he starts working for this one guy in Texas apparently I think. And the guy who he's working for this one guy in Texas apparently I think and the guy who is working for dies and leaves him with his land. Well the guy takes the land, they strike oil. Apparently there's a bunch of oil at this place.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Well he becomes a billionaire, red Stevens. After he becomes a billionaire, his best friend becomes a lawyer. He sits his lawyer down and he tells us Lauren the record 13 videos is what he records. The one video he records is the day when he dies, okay? And that video is going to be watched by all his family members, a fascinating story. So the day comes when he dies, he's worth $2.5 billion. Everybody shows up, his wife shows up with two of his young boyfriends, okay? His kid shows up, his nephew shows up, his daughter shows up, everybody shows up and he plays the video.
Starting point is 01:19:47 He says, well, if you're watching this video, it's because I'm dead. Okay. Now, there's a few things, by the way, do you guys hear that background noise in the music? I don't know what that is. Kai, is it you? Is it the phone? Oh, it's the phone. Somebody keeps calling. I got it. So he says, so if you're watching his video, it's because I'm dead. Great. He says, well, let me start off by saying that my son, I love you. You're amazing. You're great. You're going to get the $620 million of money under management and everything we do. He starts celebrating with his girlfriend. He said,
Starting point is 01:20:21 well, here's a problem. You have no saying it. You You're gonna get a small interest that's gonna be given to you. The money manager I trust manages the whole thing. Now you, pissed off, gets up, walks out. Poney, I love you. You're gonna get our real estate portfolio worth $600 million and the young boyfriends, all this stuff. But you have no say. The janitors have more to say than you do.
Starting point is 01:20:40 You just get to live there. You don't make the decisions. And he goes around everybody, and he makes these types of decisions. At the end, he says, there's only one of you here that I have the ultimate gift for. And it's my nephew.
Starting point is 01:20:52 For you, I have the ultimate gift. I don't have cars, I don't have a house, I don't have investment portfolio, I don't have a company to give you, I have no dollar to give you, but I have the ultimate gift. You could get the ultimate gift, but it's gonna take you 12 months to receive the ultimate gift, you could get the ultimate gift, but it's going to take you 12 months to receive the ultimate gift.
Starting point is 01:21:07 If you want the ultimate gift, come back here on Tuesday to me with my best from my lawyer and he's going to tell you what the ultimate gift is. Everybody else, you're dismissed. The nephew gets up, curses and I'm out. I knew he was cheap. He wasn't going to do shit for me all this other stuff. And the uncle says, he says, you were the only one I didn't do everything for and I didn't buy everything. You're the only one I can save. Everybody else, I gave you way too much and you don't appreciate any of it.
Starting point is 01:21:33 And if your leaves comes back on Tuesday and they sit down and it goes through the ultimate gift. And the whole process about learning, about hard work, learning, about giving back, learning, about teamwork, learning, about all this other stuff. There's a portion of this message that makes sense, okay? But I think you as a parent can create a compensation plan for your kids. And the compensation plan can be based on bogies you hit. What are the bogies you hit? Well, Trump said, three things I want from you.
Starting point is 01:21:58 No drugs, no alcohol, no tattoos. You do that, I'll back you up. Now you may agree, you may not agree. That's history, right? Don Jr. did some of that stuff when it was in college, but still supporting them, right? You may sit there and say, well, here's what you have when you get out of high school. Like last time my kids were talking Mario was sitting right next to me. I'm like, hey, what are you going to do when you graduate high school? Dylan's like, I don't know that. I don't know if I'm going to go to college. Why not? I'm going to go to college. And all of a sudden, they started bringing up boarding school
Starting point is 01:22:26 because the private school they're going to, there's a boarding school company. I don't ever wanna go to boarding school. Why? Because I wanna live with this. How long do you wanna live with me forever? Dylan, you wanna live with me forever? I wanna live with you for Dylan.
Starting point is 01:22:35 You're not gonna wanna, I promise you, you're not gonna wanna live with me. I want you to live with me forever. You don't wanna live with me forever. You want a house pack? Yeah, he likes the house a lot. Moral, the story is, they said, so what are we gonna do?
Starting point is 01:22:45 I said, well, look, that is gonna leave you a portion of money that you can choose to use for a couple different criterias. You just say what you wanna do with this money, but if you screw it up, you don't get anything else. That's all the money you got. So you better use it wisely. I think these are times that parents
Starting point is 01:23:01 don't create a set of criterias for their kids. Everything becomes about giving it to them. If you do that and you're not there, I was watching one of these roast videos where Alec Baldwin's daughter says, oh, you guys know who I am. Here's who I am. Ireland.
Starting point is 01:23:16 I am the daughter of such and such man, and I gotta tell you, you know him from this movie. You know him from that movie, you know him from this. But what I know him from is he showed up about two half of my birthdays over the last 30 years, exactly, and he doesn't laugh. Yeah. And he doesn't laugh.
Starting point is 01:23:32 So if you're the guy that makes the money, and you're not there at those birthday parties, and you're doing movies six months out, you're in Europe, it's a part of that that you kinda screwed the whole thing up. So this is an indictment on these rich people. All right, it's so easy for them at the end of the road saying I'm not gonna give you anything.
Starting point is 01:23:49 But where were you raising those kids? The reason you haven't heard about them is because these parents ignored them forever and just gave them everything. I 100% blamed them if their kids turned into train wrecks and they end up giving them all the money. And Daniel Craig, I stand by my statement that you just don't like your kids.
Starting point is 01:24:05 I just, there has to be a component of that in there. How would you not want to take care of your kids? All right. So what is worth, I just hope he keeps making movies, man. I just want to love him. I mean, I'm gonna add one more thing. Pierce Brosnan was the best bond. What? I think.
Starting point is 01:24:19 I think it's pretty good. It's pretty good. I wish too, pretty good. He's a bad material to work with. So basically, all right. So if I everman. It's a bad material to work with. So basically, all right. So if I ever have wealth, what I'm getting out of this is that if I want my kids to have it,
Starting point is 01:24:31 they need to be worthy of it. So I'm going to have to create some sort of legend of the hidden temple, temple of doom. They have to be able to get through certain different levels of security. Of course. And then once they prove themselves worthy of the wealth, maybe tame a lion, I don't know, something like that,
Starting point is 01:24:48 is that like, but you're gonna tell your kids at a young age that they know what they're striving for, right? You know, you know, kind of like the whole thing, well, you're worth a hundred million dollars, you die, you leave each kid $25 million. Yeah, that you're on the math, right? That's not gonna be me.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Your boy, Robert Kierzaki, man, sorry. He was asked once about generational wealth and it was some social, it was like, don't you think generational wealth is compound interest, and it's one of the, it's basically royalty, and he was like, no,
Starting point is 01:25:13 it's most wealth is gone by the third generation. There's like a third generation. It's the point. Yeah, it's all gone by the third generation. So the habits is what you wanna pass down. I'm not worried about passing down the money. I wanna pass down the habits to you. I picked up my dad's habit of working hard.
Starting point is 01:25:29 That's what I picked up. I picked up math for my mom. I picked up analytics. That's what was passed down. My parents did that, no money. Nothing was passed down to me financially. That's what I picked up. Now, here's the other part.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Say your parents are billionaires. Can you pass it down? This is the question parents are billionaires. Can you pass it down? This is the question I have. Sorry, can you pass it down without that desperation? Your father had desperation. You had desperation. So there's has down desperation. Can you can't pass down desperation?
Starting point is 01:25:54 You cannot pass them. So it's, it's driving their DNA and they should be fast. You do have drive in your DNA. But for every Steph Curry, there's, you know, no, I don't disagree with you. You cannot pass down desperation. There's got to be a part for them too. But if you become, look, this lady had Nordstroms, man, like completely broke down parenting to me in 30 seconds.
Starting point is 01:26:13 I'm in Nordstroms, Dylan's on top of me. I'm in the room, I'm changing, I'm waiting for the next room to be open, it's packed. Dylan's wrestling on top of me, you know, we're always wrestling together. He always wants to wrestle me, right? He's on top of my head and I was like, oh, he got me in the chokehold. And his lady's like, wow, I remember those days. I said, what takes?
Starting point is 01:26:31 My son is 40 right now, but I remember when he was five. I said, really? I said, give me three tips on parenting. I always ask that question. I said, give me three things. I'm not gonna give you three, but I'll give you one. So what's that? He says, you know, when you threat your kids
Starting point is 01:26:43 that if they do something, you're gonna take something away from them. It's, I said yes, always keep your commitment. What a freaking advice. Did you get it? If you tell them, you're not gonna get ice cream, don't bluff them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Cause you will lose credibility. If you tell them they're not gonna get ice cream, don't give them the ice cream. Yeah. That's the biggest things when you see with parenting, his parents are like But it's my daughter. I want to do for but it's my son It's very true
Starting point is 01:27:10 It only took it only took one time for me to get the belt and then I knew my father would actually give me the belt Parenting is very complicated it ain't easy and for parents out there that do their best luck Perfection is not the standard because you're gonna screw up You just want to be able to do your best and not screw up your kids too much. Next story, balance your about $50 million in gold bars in August as cash pile grows. So this is a CNBC story. While some companies such as Tesla are diversifying into Bitcoin, data analytics software company, balance here is betting on gold. Palantir about $50 million in gold bars in August. The company disclosed in its latest earning statement, the move reflects
Starting point is 01:27:50 a growing company stashing cash in an unconventional asset and response to economic uncertain spread by the coronavirus pandemic in government's response to. The price of an ounce of a gold crossed $2,000 mark for the first time last year as a pandemic worsen, and US government stimulus efforts continue the years, this year's investors have more loudly voiced concerns about inflation and gold is sometimes viewed as a hedge against inflation, although prices are down 7% for the year, some investors have thought cryptocurrency
Starting point is 01:28:18 might also serve that role, thoughts. This scares the living hell out of me, because when you say pound here, it's really Peter Teal, who's one of the living hell out of me because when you say pound tier, yeah, it's really Peter teal who's one of the most brilliant investors of all time. Libertarian guy. Yes. Um, they are doing this for what they say, uh, in the, in the event of a black swan, uh,
Starting point is 01:28:36 event, a, a global catastrophe. They're also, uh, for the record, they are incredibly bullish on, on Bitcoin and crypto as well. But this is why it scares me because Peter Teal is almost never wrong. He's always ahead of trend and Palantir specifically exists for one reason. They are a predictive analytics fund that helps governments and Fortune 100 companies be ready for the future. So if their predictive analytics are saying we need to stockpile resources in event
Starting point is 01:29:07 of this global catastrophe, that scares the hell out of me because that's not your crazy uncle with a tinfoil hat, that's somebody that's been proven right again and again and again. Well, I will say this, I think there's a, companies are hoarding cash right now.
Starting point is 01:29:20 We did a story yesterday on VTpost.com. The top six largest companies in the world that aren't financial firms are sitting on seven trillion in cash right now. So that there is, it has to be put somewhere. And I'm just wondering, A is 50 billion, how much is it 50 million? It's 50 million really that much compared to how much cash they have in their white flesh and so on. 50 million in gold. Yeah, but I think it's just another angle they put it in. And, but that's 50 million today though, Tom, like that, that is a set asset amount.
Starting point is 01:29:50 That 50 million in gold could very well be 500 million in gold. The same amount could appreciate. Yeah, it's true. Now, gold is down, right? A little bit this year, 7%. I think it's down for the year, but it's always going to have value. It's going to go up and down and it won't be a bad investment. But my initial thought was, they're sitting on billions.
Starting point is 01:30:08 And 50 million is just what they put into one aspect of it. And it gets a lot of publicity because it sounds like a lot. And then where are they gonna store it? I heard some where they're gonna store it over the North East. I don't know. I'm being nervous about storing gold. Yeah, if they tell us, David.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Yeah, right. We should go. Well, let's look at this. Can you find out how much cash is those volunteers, David. Yeah, right. We should go. Well, let's look at this. Kai, can you find out how much cash does Palantir sit on right now, right there? OK. As of March 31 of 2021, they're sitting on $2.38 billion. So $2.38 billion, if we do a 2's do the math here fifty million divided by
Starting point is 01:30:46 two point eight uh... two point three eight billion let's take a look at this what this percentage is it's really point zero two percent it's nothing they're just diversified it's not uh...
Starting point is 01:31:00 it if it was ten percent if it was twenty percent that's legit if you don't point zero to percent It's kind of like you got a million hours. Yeah, the can't do advisor says I think you put 50,000 dollars in you know What do you call it precious metals? Okay, cool. Let's do 50,000 hours. I think that's kind of what the positioning is I don't see it as anything more than that gold quite frankly. I have gold and I have crypto and Gold doesn't come anywhere near what crypto is done but the purpose of buying gold is very different than the purpose of buying investment stocks
Starting point is 01:31:32 or crypto. It's a very different philosophy of why you buy gold. Gold, if we ever go gold standard, what's the likelihood of us ever going back to gold standard? Zero. It's like 0.0001%, right? Okay, so they say, well, if we go back to gold standard, like, you know, it's gonna go from 2000
Starting point is 01:31:50 to half a million dollars. Come on now, you sound like the same guy that says Bitcoin's gonna go to million by the end of the year, right? It's the same exact marketing strategy that people are using. But this is simply, I think you ought to have a small percentage of your money in gold and precious metals,
Starting point is 01:32:04 and that's probably what these guys are doing. I don't think it's anything more than that. Next story, Elon Musk, $6.7 billion in compensation last year. Let me say that one more time. Elon Musk is comp last year with $6.7 billion. That's 11 times more than the second highest paid CEO. This is a business insider story. Tesla's self-styled
Starting point is 01:32:25 techening received $6.66 billion in compensation 2020 nearly 12 times. That I don't know paying the ex-musk hasn't received his billions in cash. His compensation was compromised. Of option awards, giving him the right to acquire Tesla shares at a set price. 2020's second highest paid executive was Mike, Piaque, Coast CEO of Oak Street Health, who received $568 million, the top 10 features executives from seven different companies, and it's entirely comprised of men. First is good, RX, good prescription holding,
Starting point is 01:32:58 Coast CEO Trevor and Doug Liss, they were at $497 million. I'm a bunch of different names you see on the list, that you're not gonna know many of these names, by the way. But Musk, $6.66 billion. Too much money, too little money, or about the right number. My first reaction is holy crap, that seems really low to me. I mean, we are talking about a guy who started the company,
Starting point is 01:33:19 who runs the company, who is the face of the company. You didn't start Tesla, though. Like I said, before you interrupt me, we're talking about guy that of the company? He didn't start Tesla though. Like I said, before you interrupt the view, we're talking about guy that runs the company. That is the face of the company and that basically saved the company. Hey, look, it's all tied to performance.
Starting point is 01:33:35 All right, they had a great year. I don't see how this is odd-aligned at all. He took zero in cash and people want to lump him in with the CEO overpay narrative. I think it's actually the opposite. I mean, I think he should be a commended for it. He made thousands of people rich last year. The stock price went from $90 at the beginning of the year to $700.
Starting point is 01:33:55 He lives in a glorified shack, right? A $50,000 little thing prefabbed thing that he lives in. It's not like he's wanting as well. You know, he used to take a salary. A salary was $23,000 in in 2019, 56,000 in 2018. So I think he should be applauded. I think this is a great story where someone is tied to revenues of the company and 6.6B sounds about right.
Starting point is 01:34:17 I'm so sick of counting other people's money, man. Like I really am. Like, what does it matter to you? Like people somehow they view this as like it's one One pie like like our economy is just one big old pizza pie and this dude's taking giant slices So none of us have anymore and his the food he eats doesn't make you shit man like who cares? Like it's a great story good for him. I'm a Tesla shareholder It's been awesome for me man. I love the guy, but I don't care.
Starting point is 01:34:45 I don't care how much athletes make. I don't care how much owners make. I don't care how much anybody else makes. It doesn't bother me. It doesn't interest me. Dude, what are you making? You want that money? Go make something.
Starting point is 01:34:57 What are you making, man? Like, I don't care. I believe these people are like, how dare this guy make this much money. I always go back to that old quote. And this is not a new thing. There was some activist, commie freaking journalist a hundred years ago asking Babe Ruth,
Starting point is 01:35:11 don't you think it's outrageous that you make more money than the President of the United States and Babe Ruth without even skipping a beat goes out of better year? You know what I mean? Like, that's what he did. You make more money than Herbert Humphrey out I don't have a better year over here. Dude, like, come on, man, who cares? Like, is he taking away from people? Is he taking away, like, what is he doing?
Starting point is 01:35:34 He's creating jobs, he's creating, what, you can't make these people happy. There's nothing you can do to make these people happy. For making that kind of money. Hey, is he doing it through oil? Is he doing it through fossil fuels? He's saving the universe, he's saving the environment, he's gonna colonize Mars.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Who cares? Now, the one thing I do get pissy, okay, here you go. You want me to get pissy at Elon Musk? What the hell is he need $7 billion of taxpayer money for with NASA? What's he need that for? That I'll get pissy with. I'll get pissy with him and Bezos going back and forth with NASA over, oh no, I deserve the $6 million. No, I deserve.
Starting point is 01:36:10 I want you guys pay for it. Well, that is a separate company though, right? That isn't doing as well as Tesla. Sure. SpaceX, fine. Whatever. You know, you can call it, whatever you want to call it. But look, they don't need our money. That you want me to get pissy, I'll get pissy about that. But he makes his own money in the private sector. God bless, bro, who cares? That's your position as well. You're fine with that,
Starting point is 01:36:31 we're not making that kind of money. I have no problem with that. Well listen, Kudos to Elon Musk, get a killer year, and guys now worth what? A couple hundred billion, as you add a couple hundred, you don't see, he's a 150.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Buck 50, what is the matter with them? Like what's he waiting for? How does he pronounce his son's name or daughter's name? Oh, I know, not easy. He's a 150 buck 50. What does the matter with them? Like what's he way how does he pronounce his son's name or daughter's? I know what was it? Really? I think he said it was a pronoun Sasha Sasha. Is he gonna leave you know it's like you know it's like Z Plus or yeah, yeah, it's like Sasha. What is what is Elon's long-term aspiration? Do you think his long term? What's the liver ever is? You think that's what it is. I think what's what's left? I think that's what it is? I think one's on Mars. I think that's what it is. I think they're all I'm telling you I think the the elites the global elites right I think the new thing is longevity they want to live to 200 300 400 years old. I think they already automatically assume that they're going to get close to that
Starting point is 01:37:22 but I think his I think what drives him is to get Tesla fixed so he can get out of there, somehow find a way to exit and just concentrate on putting people on Mars. Did you think we're gonna get to a point where people could live 200, 300 years or so? No, no, I don't think we'll see it. I mean, could it eventually happen? What would you define life as?
Starting point is 01:37:39 Yeah, right. What would you define life? You're dead. Seriously, yeah. But do you think we're gonna get to a point like maybe two, three hundred years? Well, you'd have to define life? What would you define life? Seriously, but do you think we're gonna get to point like what like 300 years? Well, you'd have to define life. Like if they could upload your consciousness into some,
Starting point is 01:37:50 you know, if they could somehow, you know, data map your consciousness and upload it into, you know, some sort of matrix and you can theoretically, I know a guy that's like, live forever. I mean, is that life? I mean, I, we'd have to redefine what life is. You're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, is that life? Yeah. I mean, we'd have to redefine what life is. You're like a monster that said in an interview that that's what he wants is eventually,
Starting point is 01:38:07 technically you could put your consciousness in like a computer and live forever. I did a CS Lewis. You had me reading CS Lewis the other day and I saw an unbelievable CS Lewis quote and I said, you are, you do not have a soul. You are a soul, you have a body. This is just a space suit.
Starting point is 01:38:26 This is a space suit, man. Like all we are is, this is a containment for the bio-fuel. You know, so, yeah, like if they, if they can isolate the soul, what's this, what's this say? I mean, if you're religious, you think you live forever anyway, right? On a different, you know, spiritual plane, but, you know, what I think longevity is the goal.
Starting point is 01:38:44 I really do. I think that, everything that they're doing is for them to be able to sustain their life step out forever. And I will answer this. I do believe that we could see people living to be 150 and above and just look at, just look at what we're already witnessing. Look at Tom Brady, who looks like he's 30, who's playing like he's 32. There's no indication that he's done in one or two or three years.
Starting point is 01:39:07 And he's 44 years old right now. And before that, I mean, think about George Blanda, right? He was the first NFL player to play at the age of 40. He looked like he was 64. You know, and he felt like he was 80, not Brady. So if we're seeing this type of advancing, and it's not, we're not working in the minds of 12 years old and smoking heaters our whole life anymore either man there is
Starting point is 01:39:28 someone alive today that will live to be a thousand years old okay it's extraordinary to me that it's such an inc- what is it incendiary incendiary claim a thousand years old guy what, what is this? The hell of a hammer? The spoof of a site? What's, who is that? And depends on someone doing it. Independent. Got it. Looks like a Niagara commercial. All right, there you go, thousand years.
Starting point is 01:39:54 God, I don't know if that's gonna be happen. By the way, if you're watching this, if you're watching this right now, thumbs up. Do you think in our lifetime, we're gonna see people being able to live to 300 years old. If you're watching this. yes, no, maybe. Come and below. Do you think we're going to see people getting to a number like, now obviously it's not going to happen in our lifetime because that means we need 200 more years for that to be taken place. But we're going to get to a poem where people are going to live to
Starting point is 01:40:15 or throw 100 years. Would you want to live 300 years? I think 300 is pushing it to be honest with you. I want to mind like a point. Is this one? Is it still like till death to us part that we got to do 270 years together That's when marriage becomes about terminus That's terrible That's 270 years Break in a new generation
Starting point is 01:40:33 Would you want to live 200 years? I'm a big 200 years Yeah, I don't want to live forever, honestly How many years do I get to actually be functioning, moving? You know what I mean? Assume all of it. Would you want to live forever? Yeah, I kind of like living.
Starting point is 01:40:52 You can only bench press 350 at the age of 140. Would you do it? Yeah, I talk. I'll call that a call with anything. Yes, no, maybe. I don't think I'd want to live forever, for sure. Why not? But busy? And that's where I said the last word. I would you want to live forever for sure, but maybe Buck busy
Starting point is 01:41:06 Where I said the love would you want to live forever though? But why not? What are you busy doing something else? I can't I can't I can't conceive of not living I can't conceive I can't conceive of being anything other than this consciousness Living forever now I'm good like the movie Woodward is that what age of Adeline lightning strikes you and you know an age? Yeah, you know, and you just you just a great mile. I would tell you I would tell you this I would never want to live forever if the people I love couldn't live forever as well. That's what exactly what I'm thinking
Starting point is 01:41:35 Yeah, I would watch yeah, it fits like everybody. I don't know. I don't know about that I don't know about that the only thing they're so concerned about population control fat. There's not gonna be enough room for them There's a they're to live for a thousand years. The plebium's got to get out of the way. But I can see the powerful people who have all the money in the world sitting behind closed doors trying to find us on how they can have the ability to do it. I mean, look at Kobe Bryant when he wanted to extend his career. He go to Germany and have his blood spout.
Starting point is 01:42:01 You know, you can find all these technological advances that you can do. And by the way, do you think Elon Musk loses credibility when he talks about going to Mars? It seems so preposterous, so impossible. And yet he continues to drive at the fact that he thinks it can happen. How do you mean, that's why is it preposterous? It's a matter of time.
Starting point is 01:42:17 How long is it to get there? Two years, it's a matter of time. You got to also think, 10 years to Mars. 10 years ago to have rockets that go up in the air and come down and our fine was also insane. Yeah, yeah. So everything he said he's gonna do is kind of, I've done it true, Dad,
Starting point is 01:42:30 but what about the actual like temperature on Mars? In fairness. In gravity. In fairness, Elon Musk said, I believe it was Elon Musk who said on this very channel that Giannis Santacampucco would never win an NBA finals. You know what I mean? And you an NBA finals. You know what? You have to listen.
Starting point is 01:42:47 You have to come down. You know what? You need to pay closer attention to what I say. Go back. It's all documented on value-tamming channels. What I said. Whoa, that was you. I thought that was Elon Musk.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Oh, that's right. I lost credit for that thing. I stood by that thing because I said, if he continues to shoot free throws like he has, that was an anomaly. That's what it was. 17 out of 18 of the champion game okay so man I was actually I didn't realize it was it was it was an apple contract I didn't
Starting point is 01:43:12 read it was I just clicked let's let's let's wrap it up with uh federals feds uh Powell there is no returning to pre pandemic economy here we go again all right so AP news federals Reserve chairman Jerome Powell said Tuesday that the US economy has permanently changed by the COVID pandemic and is important that the central bank adapted those changes. Those changes range from the increase in remote work to restaurants, offering more takeout meals to real estate agents, learning how to show homes virtually. He noted, many
Starting point is 01:43:39 companies have already made large investments in technology to adapt to the challenges that the pandemic has presented. Powell said the heavy investment by companies and new technology means that there will be more jobs in a future associated with maintaining that technology, but also potential job losses and industry's focus on in-person contact. It seems in near certainty that there will be substantially more remote work going forward. That's going to change the nature of work and the way work gets done. Do you agree? No, I don't.
Starting point is 01:44:06 And I think this is a fat, a cycle that we're going through. I don't think we can sustain the fact of not going to the office. I also, you know, where's a little optimism? Where's a little hope coming from our leaders saying, hey, you know what, we're on the verge of this pandemic becoming an endemic, okay? We're gonna be able to live with it.
Starting point is 01:44:21 We're not gonna die. We're gonna survive. Yeah, I just don't like the messaging and I think eventually once we pass, this cycle we're going through with high inflation and maybe we get some different leadership in there. But no, don't make broad statements like that when we just don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:38 Yeah, interesting, man. We kind of went through something like this already with the Industrial Revolution where society kind of stratified itself into urban and agrarian, you know, and then it kind of happened again after World War II when you had urban and Suburban and it's gonna happen again now They're people that are genuinely hate being around other people that love working at home that love wearing masks and not having any human Interaction and they it's gonna be very difficult for them to come back into society. They don't want to, they never want to.
Starting point is 01:45:07 And then there's other people like myself who I need to be around other people. I have to be in social environments. I go nuts when I'm not. And I realized about that about myself in the last 18 months. I'm a very tribal guy. I need to be part of a crew. And you're gonna have people that are doing that.
Starting point is 01:45:21 You're gonna have people that are gonna find environments where you have to be social and they're gonna be be able to find environments where they don't want to be social. But I also say look this is the Obama doctrine also when they're talking about the economy It's more than just the functionality of it. I mean they tell you we're going to build back better They've been straight up the world economic forum has straight up told you you will own nothing and be happy and part of that that forum has straight up told you you will own nothing and be happy and part of that that that that fine print that you're talking about what they didn't tell us is that it's because they're gonna own everything. $3.5 trillion in stimulus already. The greatest theft in the history of the world. They took $3.5 trillion of the taxpayer dollars and made it their
Starting point is 01:46:00 dollars. And what did we get for that? $1,200, us got twelve hundred bucks for three point five trillion then they're gonna get another trillion only if we give them three point five trillion on top of that so they already got four trillion they're gonna get four and a half trillion this is on top of the eight years of quantitative easing from Obama the dollars basically worthless compared to was ten years ago and all of that money is now their money they figured out a way to make the entire world sick and the way to heal everybody it turns out was to make all of our money their money brilliant guy what do you think about
Starting point is 01:46:36 what pal said mean i think it's interesting uh... it's more of a long-term effect as well if you look at kind of how things have changed uh... i think was you you've all herrari that said initially we read an article back when we were still in Dallas of how tremendous amount of change has happened in a very short amount of time and a lot of that can't necessarily be reversed. So I think there's definitely more long-term effects of this, of what initially bounces back and then trends or habits that have been changed indefinitely. So I think that'll kind of play a big part
Starting point is 01:47:08 as well moving on as we go. But then you also have, like we saw in the other article where retail spending back to school is higher than it's been the last few years. So there's kind of things that are contradicting, but I mean, we'll kind of see how things play out. Yeah, like you know, it's crazy when you're saying this, okay, remember when everybody bought newspapers?
Starting point is 01:47:27 How long ago was that? 15 years. 15 years ago, guys. Remember when everybody at their house had a photo album? How long ago was that? Yeah. Landline phone? No, when's the last time we had actually photo albums
Starting point is 01:47:39 at the house? It was not long ago. My parents still do. My parents still do. 15 years ago, 20 years ago, right? When's the last time we had landlines? How long was it? 10, 12 years ago.
Starting point is 01:47:48 But by the way, if we did the percentage, like, if I could pull up the data to find out how many people don't have a home phone that they use minutes, I would love to see the stats of minutes used on your home phone. 20 years ago, 30 years ago, to minutes being used in I don't have to have to have to have is there a hard line here on the office on the office the do we have a hard line phone here or no yeah we do we actually do we actually do but but if you ask me how many minutes I've spoken to my home phone matter of I what is the last time you spoke on a home phone years I haven't had one in 10 years I once, once I last spoke on a home phone.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Think about that. 10 years? How about when you used to say, I have to take this call, it's long distance. Yeah. Oh, dude. What about when the cord came out? When the extending cord came out,
Starting point is 01:48:34 you could actually take the call into the, like, do you even have people in there? So what I'm trying to say is there's a part of what he's saying is true. Like, some industries are going to change. Flat out. Here's what we know. We had industries are going to change. Flat out. Here's what we know. We had Sebastian and a Skalko at the event last week.
Starting point is 01:48:49 I'm backstage him and I have a conversation together and I said, hey Sebastian, how's it been for you? He says, well I've been doing a lot of zooms. I said, how's it? It's very different. It's very weird. Just get up there and you're trying to make people laugh but you need a reaction.
Starting point is 01:49:00 You're not really getting it, but it is what it is. We're doing it. People want to do it. And it's just like a conversation that we have with them. What's this? US household, I'd want to go 20 more years back.
Starting point is 01:49:10 But that's interesting right there from 2010 to 2016. Look at that shift right there. 68.2, 29.7 to 50.8, 45.9. But go back to it. Some industries, you have to be around people. Are restaurants going to go out of business? No. Not go out of business. Are industries, you have to be around people. Are restaurants gonna go out of business? No, not go out of business. Are they gonna be going away?
Starting point is 01:49:29 No, I wanna go to dinner. I wanna go have a sit-down, have a conversation with you, right? Is there gonna be an opportunity to disrupt it? Yes. Are movie theaters gonna go away? Yes, if you kinda try to do the same what we wouldn't do in the four 20 years. So I think there's gonna be a lot of disruption that takes place,
Starting point is 01:49:46 but I also think some industries are going to take a hit. Like, you know, the whole story with 70% of Fortune 500 companies from 1960 are no longer around today. Yes, of course, because today I send this tweet, I don't know if I posted a tweet yesterday or not, where I said, things are changing so fast, the ability to adapt and be able to predict how human behavior is going to react to something in the next 12-18 months, that's the formula.
Starting point is 01:50:18 So how are we going to react to the COVID? If somebody could have predicted that, 12, how are we going to react to the COVID? If somebody could have predicted that, 12, how are we gonna react to this stimulus? If somebody could have known you would have made the right investment, it's all about being able to predict it, not 100%, but if somebody can do that and make the adjustments,
Starting point is 01:50:36 because things are changing very, very fast today. Now, let's flip it. Are people gonna wanna be to themselves and not be around people? I can't see that happening. I can't see handshakes. You know when I go and I'm shaking hands now, they're like, hey, how you doing?
Starting point is 01:50:50 They do the elbow. But you know what you see? A lot of people right now just shake hands. I'm sitting like, especially in Florida, maybe not in California. California's like, don't even get close to me. But people are shaking hands. How you doing?
Starting point is 01:51:00 I was in Indiana. I went there and my guy comes up, you know, a driver. How you doing, sir? I'm like, oh, I don't know. You don't know. Let's go. Shook his hands, right? So some of the stuff I think will go away,
Starting point is 01:51:12 but I think a lot of the stuff that's the human interaction, I don't think that's horrible. How can a company thrive when people aren't at the office, especially big companies? I just think, sure, for a little while, you can adapt and make it happen. But over the long term, I think people have to be at the office. By the way, have you guys seen the stories lately
Starting point is 01:51:26 on the cottage industry that's popped up lately with people working from home? It's people holding two or three full-time jobs and not letting the other companies know about it. Having separate computers. I mean, this is a big thing. There's a big online forum where people share ideas and how they're getting away with it.
Starting point is 01:51:40 Do we talk about that or no? We haven't talked about it on the... Add it to the story next time. Yeah, there are people that are doing multiple full time jobs. All time jobs. And that's why they wanna stay working at home and then how they dividing their time and make it true.
Starting point is 01:51:52 They're gonna work long term. I don't know why. You know what's not gonna work long term? How long can you run a, how long can a con man keep con? Yeah, double life man. You just can't do it. There's a time.
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Starting point is 01:52:19 I mean, it's not stats and nitty gritty sports stuff. It's gambling. It's sports business. Today we're talking about jerseys in the NHL gonna have ads, right? We're talking about Jay-Z opening up his own sports book, right? We're talking about fighting. Have you noticed how many fights there are with fans in the stands right now?
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