PBD Podcast - Pat McAfee Bans Aaron Rodgers, DeSantis vs Haley Debate, Trump's Town Hall | PBD Podcast | Ep. 348

Starting point is 00:00:00 I know this life meant for me. Yeah, why would you bet on the life when we got bad data? Value payments, given values, contagious, this world of entrepreneurs, we can't no value to hate it. Howdy running home, you look what I've become. I'm the entrepreneur. and hold me, look what I've become. I'm the one. Okay, we are live, Rob.

Starting point is 00:00:28 What episode are we on today? 3.48, PPD podcast. We got obviously quite a few stories to discuss. Last night there was a Trump town hall with Fox. Then there was a CNN debate. The Santis against Haley, no Vivek, right after Christy announces he's stepping away, but there was a hot mic of him saying certain things

Starting point is 00:00:54 about Nikki Haley, which we'll talk about, the debate between the Santis and Haley was very weird, because it looked like they flat-out couldn't stand each other. I love it. Did you see the ending of it? I did. So you know when they did the Hillary Clinton was very weird because it looked like they flat out couldn't stand each other. I love it. Did you see the ending of it? I did. So you know when they did the Hillary Clinton

Starting point is 00:01:09 and the Trump debate and at the end, so can you say one good thing about Trump or Hillary and then both of them actually gave one good thing about it and they could stand each other. It's family is what she applauded. Trump's family kids and she was very respectful about the kids and then Trump said Hillary's and, kids, and she was very respectful about the kids. And then Trump said Hillary doesn't quit. She's a fighter.

Starting point is 00:01:27 And you could tell, it was actual compliments. Haley did not give a sincere compliment. It was super snobby. Did you hear it? Did you hear it? Did you watch the entire debate or no? I did. Okay, yeah.

Starting point is 00:01:40 So we'll talk about that one right there. Yeah, she's part of the discount. It's unattractive. It's unattractive, right? We'll talk about that. She said she hit her nerve. DeSantis says you're making excuses. It was great. And then at the same time, aside from all the stuff going on, Pac-Mac, Pat McAfee, Adam and I had a very nice little back and forth on what's going to happen with Pat McAfee.

Starting point is 00:02:01 Wait till you see the decision. I mean, you at this point, if you're watching the podcast, I'm sure you already know what he did. We're going to play the clip. We're going to have some commentary on it. And as if there's not enough drama already in sports, Steven A. Smith and Jason Whitlock go at it because Jason Whitlock calls Steven A. Smith the Kevin Hart of sports TV.

Starting point is 00:02:20 It's Jason Whitlock's a guy that was supposed to be Jason Whitlock is a sweet man. Even he's never even mentions his name ever. I have tried to. He was this right. You're the one running across our driveway, trying to avoid. So Jason Woodbuck is the guy, the fearful show.

Starting point is 00:02:33 He has a show called Fearful. He's so fearful. There's a lot of fear involved. Fearless also known as scaredy cat. Fearful. Very fearful. Anyway, so that's a inside joke between us. a fear involved fear less also known as scaredy cat fearful very careful talk about that. Okay. Anyway, so that's a inside joke between us. But look, you guys brought it up. You call that

Starting point is 00:02:50 Stephen A. We'll talk about it. Few other stories aside from that last night. SEC apparently approved the ETF. Yeah, what do you call it? My state is correct. Yeah, let me pull this up here right now. Yeah, that's right. Approved the ETF for Bitcoin and Bitcoin went up slightly, but there's some other things we can talk about with this SEC authorizing the ETF. We'll talk about that.

Starting point is 00:03:17 California lawmakers ready for this? Yeah. Considering banning tackle football for kids under the age of 12. Okay. All my four kids will qualify for that, including Brooklyn. This means Brooklyn cannot play tackle football for kids under the age of 12. Okay. All my four kids would qualify for that including Brooklyn This means Brooklyn cannot play tackle. That's what that's what would happen in California. That's discriminatory. I watched this video yesterday You you were walking the streets of New York. I don't know if you saw that you were in the streets of New York And you step in this thing in a drop. I saw the jury and then you looked below and these the Jewish people that were dancing like

Starting point is 00:03:46 believable to the point where you started dance. I was such the rhythm was ridiculous. So this will show clip of what's going on under our mid-Jews. I'm doctorated. There is. Yeah. Okay. Hunter Biden comes up with three members of the gun. Was again, being or the the genavis. I don't know which family he was but Hunter Biden shows up with a couple mobsters. Fauci had a seven hour back and forth and he was apparently rumor has it. He was wearing flip flops because he kept flippling flopping. Flippling flopping flopping flopping flopping flopping. But we'll talk about that. And then here's a political story talking about that the Epstein list and is a far right,

Starting point is 00:04:27 is obsessed with sex trafficking. Political says, why is the far right so obsessed with sex trafficking? And I love what Chris Cuomo said to somebody on Twitter, which we'll show here in a minute as well. What else do we got going on here? A bunch of,

Starting point is 00:04:44 did you guys hear about the new podcast? Let's get started. What? What? It's gonna be a legendary podcast. Here? No. So Nick Saban, Pete Carroll, and Bill Bell,

Starting point is 00:04:53 which are the first time in a podcast. Oh, man. What are they gonna call it? We're out. We're out. We're out. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 00:05:09 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, going to be done. I think it's mutual separation there. Charlemagne, the God, trashes Biden and then indirectly ends up trashing Trump more saying we don't really have a candidate. Ray Epps sentenced to one year's probation for his role in the right. I wonder why that is. And $500. Don Lemon is officially bringing his show to ex.

Starting point is 00:05:40 It's Le Mans Pat. Forgive me. Say it right. But Don Lemon is making his show to which by the way, I'm actually really excited to see what he's going to do. Let me tell you why because it's no longer within the, you know, you know, I, because some people still are within somebody, right? I'm going to be curious to know what he's going to be doing. What he's going to be saying, very much looking forward to it.

Starting point is 00:06:03 10, 15 years ago, he said some stuff that was pretty powerful and it was so direct when viral, maybe a part of that comes out. I don't know, we'll see. We'll see. He'll announce this peer-to-peer payment services and then Chinese billionaire is second biggest foreign owner of U.S. land and Melania Trump's mom.

Starting point is 00:06:23 I'm Alija died at the age of 78. And this entire time everybody was wondering if Trump, you know, all the issues, marital, all that stuff, this is actually something I was going on. So it's always, she's the same as his Trump, which I find a little interesting. Maybe you can comment on that.

Starting point is 00:06:40 The mother-in-law, yeah, saying, hey. Is that like a, are you saying it from a standpoint of a hero status? Like that's who you're looking at. Just getting facts around here. I got to know. I'm just thinking. I can only stay back.

Starting point is 00:06:51 I'm kind of a daddy thing around. I felt an element. Saying they're the same age. He wrong. Okay. Now, let me tell you what we're doing. Gank, here's what we're doing. Menect was on before we get into it.

Starting point is 00:07:01 Let me go to talk to you about Menect. So we got an internal contest going on. Last week, again, Tom had 31 Menechs in a single day, 12 calls, 19 texts. I respond to all the Menechs in audio. And in the last, I want to say, six weeks, I've done nearly 200 Menechs. All 100% I respond in audio. It's my voice when I'm responding back. You're doing a bunch of calls.

Starting point is 00:07:27 This guy's doing a bunch of calls with young men that are wanting advice and life and finance and how to change your life going from maybe to party set to getting your finances in order. And then Tom, you're doing a bunch of things with that. But there's an internal contest going on as well folks. Look at this as election time, okay? You got Tom, you got Vinnie, you got Adam.

Starting point is 00:07:47 Who do you love the most? Show your love by connecting with them and do a video call with them. Text them. Send a video response from them that you're going to get Adam, Vinnie and Tom, in the flesh responding back to you. Last time I did this, Manette called out, I did it at the end of the podcast. We got a lot of them, but this time I'm doing it at the beginning because there's a contest, friendly contest. This thing's going to get a little bit nervous here. I'm not a guy's in girls because I announced right before Christmas. I think it was around Christmas or day before Christmas. Whoever from that day gets to 500 Menec. It doesn't

Starting point is 00:08:21 matter if it's a call or it's a video or if it's a text. Any of these three guys, by the way, if anybody else wants to participate, you can also compete because we got a bunch of the new people on the neck that are grown rapidly. I'll make a video about it today. Whoever gets to 500, gets a $2,000 suit from me and they're all fighting for it. Tom's in the lead right now at 136. 132nd place is Vinny right now with 65. Oh snap. But Adam is only behind you by two with 63. Can I dress my constituents? Go ahead, give it 20 seconds. Hi everybody, I'm Vickson Oshana. Tom's rich.

Starting point is 00:08:51 Adam's rich. I'm not. Please, Minneck, Minneck, Minneck, I can't go that way. Please. Help. Support a bro. Take a lesson from Tom.

Starting point is 00:09:01 This is how bad Tom wants to win. Slashes prices in half. It's a bogey on the neck. Thanks Tom. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, well if you can and put it in the description folks, go download it or take one of these QR codes. Whoever you want to go to, take the QR code, go to them, ask him a question. You know who I'm rooting for? You who's that? I'm rooting for Vinnie.

Starting point is 00:09:33 I'm telling you what, Tom's got enough money, he's already playing the game, he's slashes, prices and half. By the way, if you want advice from the best doc, super cheap for a great advice. Oh my god. You can go website atomlice.com You know what you're getting from PBD the go like whatever the price is it's worth the price of admission Tom is slashing advice his vice half off. You don't need your doesn't need money. What I'm telling the people is they're getting a great deal. I just got my way. I'm rooting for Vinnie.

Starting point is 00:10:09 Thanks, buddy. If you want to be shared up in your life, COVID. This I'm watching right now to see who's going to get just during this call here today. But anyways, go down with the app. It's a place I love communicating on Menec the stand number one app I check when I wake up in the morning. All these influencers every week, we're getting hundreds of influencers joining Menec right now. And what happens is on Instagram and on LinkedIn, people don't respond. 95, 98% of the time, nobody responds back to you.

Starting point is 00:10:38 At Menec, they do because I believe you need to pay for somebody to respond back to you. They have busy lives. If you want somebody to get back to you, pay for it. And they will. And it's a guaranteed way of getting people to respond. And that's what we did in Menec. The whole story with Menec for me was years ago, a lawyer, I did a seven minute call with this guy charged me for 30 minutes, upset me.

Starting point is 00:10:57 I asked the lawyer, can I pay you by a minute? He says no lawyer charges by the minute. I said one day I will develop a website or an app that I get to pay people by the minute. This is why we call the app, do you have a minute to connect? Let's connect. We're gonna turn the connect into a verb. It's gonna be in the dictionary. Let's connect. Can I say one what? Just let everybody know because I hear a lot of, Vinny, why don't we just cameo? This is not cameo and just a quick thing. I'm, you guys know who I am. Comedian, funny, crazy, people call me the seward. I don't even like saying I'm a coincidence theorist. But everything from, I make people laugh to tell them jokes.

Starting point is 00:11:32 To yesterday, I prayed with a dude. I'm crying emotional about it. Wow. Dude, this thing is really. It's been the greatest experience rewarding because you're making an impact, right? Well, this isn't, like I'm saying, this isn't a happy birthday, John. I mean, you can get that if you want, but this isn't what-

Starting point is 00:11:49 And, and be honest, so every once in a while, like there is an element to, like, people ask to see your tattoo. I was, I was, no, hold on, hold on guys, hey, hold on, can I go back? Hey, everybody, if you want to see me, I'm going to shirt off, connect, I'll do it. And it was, let's get right into it, guys. We got a lot of confidence to cover. A vote by Manak Tom. Put your phone aside. Tom, put your phone, guys.

Starting point is 00:12:11 What are you saying? You just lowered your price again. I'm just trying to get. I don't know. $8. All right, let's go. First story, Pat McAfee, we talked about it yesterday, right? We sat there and we said Pat McAfee, he's not going to cave.

Starting point is 00:12:23 It's ESPN or Pat McAfee. I don't think it's going to cave. I think ESPN is the person with what he called a de-example I gave with. They're the people that they're going to do this and they're going to do that. Well, the story comes out 24 hours later and guess what folks?

Starting point is 00:12:36 What happened? Aaron Rogers will no longer be a guest on the Pat McAfee show for the remainder of the season. Ask him from by Pat McAfee. Who expressed? There the season, ask him from by Pat McAfee. Who expressed, there would be a lot of people who are happy with that. Myself included, to be honest with you, I am happy that he's not going to be in my mentions going forward, which is great news.

Starting point is 00:13:00 During the final appearance on the show and Rogers, primarily discuss his ongoing feud with Jimmy Kimmel and his controversial viewpoints on COVID, Pat McAfee remaining loyal to Rogers acknowledge some of his thoughts and opinions, do piss a lot of people off. McAfee also expressed relief saying, I am pumped that we will no longer be in every single Wednesday

Starting point is 00:13:19 of my life, which it has been the past few weeks, Rob. Can you play this clip? And I think go past the first 20 seconds to the announce right there. Play it from been the past few weeks. Rob, can you play this clip? And I think go past the first 20 seconds to the announce right there. Play it from right there. Go ahead. I'll be glittered to be honest with the way it ended. He got a little bit back. Yeah. And myself included. The way it ended, he got real what we do know is the guy stopped by yesterday cause quite a conversation. Yeah. now, not like that.

Starting point is 00:13:47 So Aaron Rogers Tuesday season four is done. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. There could be a lot of people that are happy with that. Myself included to be honest with the way it ended. He got real loud and real loud. I'm happy that that is not going to be my mentions going forward, which is great news.

Starting point is 00:14:05 We're a conversation show people are having conversations. We live in a country that has freedom of speech, but also you're going to have to deal with the consequences of your freedom of speech. So what I'm saying is we've given a lot of people who've been waiting for us to fail. A lot of ammo and things to attack us for over the last week. And we would love to get back to the point where we just move on and continue to silence. All the haters over here who can't negotiate as good as I can. All the people over here who can't create a show as good as us. And all the people up

Starting point is 00:14:33 here who just can always be here and they're going to hustle and do their thing which I respect. But we need to do that. And that is our focus. That is our goal. And Aaron Rogers is a hall of favor. He's a fourtime MVP. He's a massive piece of the NFL story. Whenever you go back and tell it, he will be a huge part of it. We are very lucky to get a chance to chat with him and learn from him. Some of his thoughts

Starting point is 00:14:53 and opinions though do piss off. A lot of people. And I'm pumped that that is no longer going to be every single Wednesday of my life, which it has been for the last few weeks. On Friday, obviously, I threw us into the fire as well, forever stand by that. Everything else though, like just can't do that and not what we want to be done for.

Starting point is 00:15:14 And I'm also pumped that I'll have to do these types of talks. Sure. So with that being said, sports are alive right now. Yeah. What do you think about that? Dude, just who's the guy that was talking to him, Tom? Who was the guy that they were mentioning that? Norby Williamson. Yeah, Norby Williamson. What do you think? Norby the corporate bureaucrat guy. I think after that last time, the video that we saw,

Starting point is 00:15:36 they came in and they said, Hey, listen, you are going to do this. You are going to say this, and that is that after he did that-ass speech about how he's in charge and he's the man and all that, I don't even watch this show, but I lost so much respect for him because he didn't stand his ground. Period. Adam. Look, let's just go over the facts.

Starting point is 00:15:56 Right, because we're going to have a lot of opinions on this. Who owns ESPN? Right. Disney. Right? ABC. Disney. Talk about this. We've talked about this. Oh, yes, yeah, thanks to Disney We we've talked about this a million times where the biggest advertiser on legacy media mainstream media is who big forma a

Starting point is 00:16:15 month ago, we had a conversation with Coalby Coalby Coalby Coalby, less than a month ago where he basically called out Travis Kelsey We see what's going on with him and Taylor Swift. He's been bought, sold pay for by Pfizer. That's done. He said he made $20 million when any other advertising, basically agenda would have been closer to $5 million. It's a pay for play, pay for play situation going on with legacy media,

Starting point is 00:16:40 mainstream media, Disney, ABC, ESPN, Pfizer, we all know they're in bed together. In comes pat McAfee. Hey, I'm rough from tumble. I don't wear no sleeves. I kick ass for a living. I do what I want. Aaron Rogers. All right. Cool. He just got a taste of what it's like working in mainstream media. I don't know if he actually stands by these comments. Doesn't stand by these comments. What I do know is that whatever relationship he had with Aaron Rogers is now defunct. If you're Aaron Rogers, how are you looking at Pat McAfee being like,

Starting point is 00:17:12 yeah, that's my boy. Never. I don't think it's done. So we had a conversation yesterday, what it would take for you to sell your soul or to sell your boys down the river. For some things that you stand for 100%, you're not gonna cave for that.

Starting point is 00:17:26 So what I'm reading the tea leaves here, turns out Pat McAfee cares about the money that he does more about his relationship with Aaron Rogers. That's clear. So, and it turns out that maybe they weren't as good as friends as we maybe perceived them to be. But the bottom line is this, $85 million for five million. When you made a couple million bucks in your day, we'll make anybody take a second thought, huh. Huh, huh.

Starting point is 00:17:53 And it's a lot easier to stand there and say, I wouldn't do that, I wouldn't do this. Go ahead, look at a blank check for $85 million. All you have to do is sign, let me know when you're in that situation. And that's what we'll find out who the madman if you the last video that we saw, Tom, then he say he goes, I have control of my show.

Starting point is 00:18:10 I have creative control, whatever he wants to talk about. How did that change? Somebody had to tell you. You don't have creative control. When you work for ESPN, you work for DC. Then why don't you say it? And they have their woke in your life. So whatever he says is one thing.

Starting point is 00:18:24 What does the contract say? What does the dotted line say? The bottom line is this. You sign a contract for $85 million. So literally do what we do. Some people are gonna have to tell you, yeah, you can't say that, can't do this. Especially when it comes to the Pfizer situation.

Starting point is 00:18:40 Because that's the crux of the situation. Don't be fooled by the Epstein Jimmy Kimmel, Aaron Rodgers thing up. This comes down to Big Pharma and Pfizer. Yeah, when you take a look at these contracts, two things can be true at the same time. Packed Mac if you're saying, this is my show, I'm the producer, I make decisions on my guests.

Starting point is 00:18:56 That could be absolutely true. But in every one of these contracts nowadays, there are moral-trippered clauses, such as, he can't get himself into some terrible situation that like show up on the Epstein list and that puts you know the SPM brand at peril. He can't do that. Also in the contract there's going to be statements about inflammatory statements and things that are over the top like he brings out a bunch of people that are pro this or pro that that are just completely

Starting point is 00:19:24 inflammatory. There's going to be clauses in there that says, hey, you control your guess, you control that. But if this all happens, this is here. And I think ESPN, you know, drop the dime on Pat to Pat, we got to talk. He says, listen, you know, Aaron Rogers, this is this in his controversy. Great, it's good for ratings. But when he crosses the line over here, we can't have this, we can't have that. We can't do this. we got to pull him off the

Starting point is 00:19:46 show that last segment there are so many things packed in that was on yet we had so much stuff in it that we just can't deal with and I bet there is some screaming I bet there was a big thing going on in a conference room and I bet Mac if he didn't want to do it but then it appears that he caved in the opening of a segment is this careful thing very lays it out and I Adam I think a lot of what you just said is right, but I think a lot of this you said on the line that is dotted a lot of This is already in the contract. Yeah, so here's here's my thoughts guys. Let me let me tell you when you're around in business for a long time You trust fewer people, okay?

Starting point is 00:20:21 Why do you trust fewer people? Because you you let me let me restate that you trust fewer people, okay? Why do you trust fewer people? Because you, let me, let me restate that. You trust fewer people's words. Everybody talks. Few people do. I remember one time I'll go to an earlier stage when we're growing and this is 2008, 2009, I want to say March or something like that. And I'm putting an event together, someone around that date, I'm putting an event together, and at this event, the scroll gets up on stage, and this probably, oh wait, the scroll gets up on stage, and she is the spokesperson on these other five guys

Starting point is 00:20:56 that got me a nice little booklet and 15 people paid for this thing and its pictures and stories of everything. She's up on this stage stage and she's saying, let me tell you. Yeah, va-da-fi. This is your one's my life. 10 minutes, she's in tears.

Starting point is 00:21:11 This is on video, by the way. Like we have it in our archives. A week later, she leaves me for $30,000 and a BMW. Wow. And Gosan becomes a direct competitor to us. Okay. A week later, two weeks later. And people watching us who know who she is,

Starting point is 00:21:28 they know who she is, like this. Boom, she did that. Fast forward. We got another guy. Let me tell you, I'm forever. I'm a forever. I'm about everybody eats and I'm about this and this and that. Really, I'm a right or die type of guy, bro.

Starting point is 00:21:46 Awesome. So we're working with this guy. Boom, boom, boom, boom, all of a sudden, one small little offer, 100,000 honors. He's gone. It didn't take a lot of money. He's gone, right? And then you have people who behind closed doors

Starting point is 00:22:01 get offered millions of dollars, life change changing money and they don't flinch. Okay, and have those stories as well in the company. And those who don't do that are rewarded longterm. Those who do, then they're gonna be doing that for the rest of their lives. And guess what someone's gonna know in the marketplace? You're gonna be driven by money, no problem. As you age in life, you'll realize eventually you can have the money. You

Starting point is 00:22:26 can have all that stuff. What matters the most is who do you spend time with on Christmas day? Who do you spend time with on 4th of July? Who comes to your house with their kids? Who wants to have a friendship with you? Who do you want to have a strong friendship with? Relationship with? And if you do, you got to pour into it. And you got to show that values are more important and money I remember one time this is 2000 and what's peak of COVID 20? This is 2021 is what it is and I'll tell you the month of it. It's probably August or September and

Starting point is 00:23:00 we come after the event and wherever we are. And we have a board meeting with me. And they're sitting there saying, Pat, what everything that's going on right now with COVID, you need to send nurses to offices with vaccines to get all the agents vaccinated so they don't get COVID. I said, I'm sorry? Yes. Then I noticed two people teamed up on me on that call,

Starting point is 00:23:23 and it was two specific people that they're saying well And by the way, I love these guys tilted. I love these guys and they say well, listen if you go to such and such private equity company in New York If you go to this company and this you have to give your card and you have to show that you're vaccinated It's very normal with these big companies and if we want to be big we got to follow the leader the big companies I said yes, not gonna happen. Well think about For three hours, the entire board meeting with board members, morals in the room, everything was about us getting everybody in the company vaccinated. How do you think that calling?

Starting point is 00:23:58 And by the way, just so you know, I'm not rich at this time. I'm paper rich. Yeah. But I don't have a few hundred million dollars. I don't have the cash that we're talking about. That hasn't happened yet. There's a big difference between being paper rich

Starting point is 00:24:12 and between cash rich. Tom, you know the difference, right? There's a big difference there, right? Because you're like, man, I got a lot of equity, but this thing can be lost tomorrow. So you may be able to compromise because you're worried what if you lose the money, right? There's a big difference between you have $85 million and it's already

Starting point is 00:24:25 contra-de-gabin in the bank. Anyways, I say no, it's not gonna happen. We want you to consider this, it's not gonna happen. Finally, I make a video. In the video I send out everybody on that week, people know they're like, oh wow, what's happening in this video? So guys, here's all I ask of you. If you choose to get the vaccine, don't judge them.

Starting point is 00:24:45 If they make that choice that is proper for them. I said, my dad's 79 years old, he got the vaccine, and he's getting the boosters. My nanny, she got the vaccine, she got the boosters. We chose not to get it. No one in our family judges anybody. If you get it, you will not be judged by me. If you don't get it, you will not be judged by me.

Starting point is 00:25:04 Period. And I was a message that, well, I'm not be judged by me. If you don't get it, you will not be judged by me. Period. And I was a message that went on. I'm not sending nobody to go give you shots. So guess what happens? Long term, you get to trust who you wanna be in business with now. If in life I do agree with Adam, there are certain people that are solo people, that it's all about them, and it's about their money,

Starting point is 00:25:20 it's about them, you know what I'm gonna run, I'm gonna run. Yeah, of course, if it's about you, you're gonna make those decisions. There's solo players in You know what I'm going to run. I'm going to, yeah, of course, if it's about you, you're going to make those decisions. There's solo players in life. There's team players in life. This decision was made. He caved. Pat McAfee caved in regards to how their relationship is going to be moving forward or not. I think Aaron Rogers still follows Pat McAfee on Instagram. And they're still that going on. I think even Aaron Rogers made a comment about it. Rob, what is this? You're showing me? Do you want me to read this? This is Pat McAfee's tweet last night.

Starting point is 00:25:46 He's saying that Aaron Rogers isn't banned from the show. It's just his segment always ends at the end of Aaron Rogers football season. The jet season ended this week. So this is I know about this, but that's not the point. A lot of people are saying, well, you're not saying this pad. You're kind of misrepresenting. No, no, he said I'm kind of happy because freedom of speech has consequences. And you said something. So you did. This is flip flop. And no, no, I'm notrepresenting, no, no, he said I'm kind of happy because freedom of speech has consequences and you said something, so you, this is flip flop.

Starting point is 00:26:07 And no, no, I'm not buying this. I'm not buying this. The specific words are, I'm kind of happy we're no longer dealing with that. Those are the words from you. I'm happy we're no longer dealing with that. And that is a form of you not wanting to talk about that. Okay, MacAfee, I was kind of happy. Rogers wouldn't be back on the show And that is a form of you not wanting to talk about that.

Starting point is 00:26:25 Okay, would, McAfee, I was kind of happy, Rogers wouldn't be back on the show because of the drama it caused. Yeah, okay, cool. Then that's what you wanna do, that's what you wanna do. But for me, Aaron Rogers gained a ton of respect. Joke of itch, didn't play in Australia open. Think about this for a second.

Starting point is 00:26:41 For you, you're like, oh, if it's money, they'll cave. That could have been the difference of him being known as the greatest of all time, because he needed one more mask, one more, what do you call a grand slam to win? And what if he gets injured, and he never wins a grand slam again? So you mean to tell me not taking the vaccine

Starting point is 00:26:56 was more important and never being known as the goat? You know what joke of it said? Yes, that's what joke of it said. Have you seen what he said on the clip about the vaccine? Would they ask him a question? Why don't you take the vaccine? Joke of it? Have you seen the clip? That's what joke of it said. Have you seen what he said on the clip about the vaccine? Would they ask him a question? Why don't you take the vaccine? Have you seen the clip? That's what he said.

Starting point is 00:27:08 He said, I don't know. Yeah, no, his position was just like, because it's my choice. Yeah. And I want to be respected my health choice. I don't think I need it. Go ahead. Well, I want to get, I'm going to ask you a question, but because I want to know where you think the odds are

Starting point is 00:27:23 and who this is on, right? This is on ESPN, this is on McAfee, this is on Rogers, this is on Kimmel, like an odds type situation. I want you to maybe break that down. Yeah, of course. But when I say that everybody has a price, I stand by that, but it depends on what the cause is

Starting point is 00:27:39 and where you stand on this. What do I mean? Everything in life, the most, everything comes down to relationships and friendships. If you're friends with somebody and you're loyal to somebody, you will, there's no price. You won't cave. But if you're not loyal to somebody and there's no friendship and there's no relationship with their efforts, not as connected as you think it is, then you might cave. I'll give you an example. You brought up the insurance industry.

Starting point is 00:28:06 I met you in 2012. I've been in the industry since 2006. My firm is the best in the country at doing this one thing called life settlements. I've been doing a million different now-bos meetings from Sekas, AEL, use every single of these meetings, Pat, for 17 years.

Starting point is 00:28:21 At every single one of these meetings, I get recruited. Hey, man, you're the best of what you do. You're so good at people. What would it take for you to come work with us? 17 years. Do you know what company I'm still at? Seven? The same freaking company.

Starting point is 00:28:34 Okay. And that's when I didn't have money and when I have money, when I didn't have money, when I just started to make money, 2011. I'm a groom's admin in the Kardashian wedding with my best friend, Chris Humphreys, right? Long story with that. I didn't have money at the time. Dude, I don't know how they get my number. I don't know how this happens.

Starting point is 00:28:52 I'm getting hit up by TMZ, by E, by U name it. Dude, nobody has to know. We'll give you 50 grand. Take a picture at the wedding. Fones weren't allowed. This is in 2011. There you go. There you see me. Clean shave and saws right there. No glasses. I'm not the seven footer at the wedding. Fones weren't allowed. This is in 2011, there you go. There you see me, clean shaven saws right there,

Starting point is 00:29:06 no glasses. I'm not the seven footer on the back. They offered me 50 grand per photo. It's a terminal drop, go ahead. Yeah, 50 grand per photo. What did I say? Nah, this is my best friend. I'm not gonna throw him under the bus

Starting point is 00:29:20 and completely taint our relationship for 50 grand or 100 grand, not fucking worth it. So to leave the company that helped me get started in this hell-knock, it's for a couple more points, to throw my best friend under the bus for 50 grand hell-knock. And I can give you a list after a list after a list, whether it's Keith and the nightlife stuff that I do, whether it's Adrian and the loyalty of Adam and Tim.

Starting point is 00:29:40 I can tell you something. The point that I'm saying is, everyone has a price based on the relationship that they're gonna have to use. Yeah, but it's relationship. Well, that's one element. You're right. The other part is also values and principles.

Starting point is 00:29:55 If the value of freedom of speech is not of value to you, you'll compromise it. No doubt. Aaron Rodgers said, freedom of speech is not a top three value to me. No problem. Entertainment is more important to him than freedom of speech. By the way, go die on whatever hill you want to die on.

Starting point is 00:30:09 I mean, Rodgers are my, I'm talking Mac. I'm talking Mac if you're talking Mac. Mac Mac, Mac Mac. Big Mac Mac. Exactly. But you know what this, you brought something up to me to think about. And I want to transition into another story because we got a lot of things to talk about, is the following. Who just part ways?

Starting point is 00:30:22 Which big name and big platform just part ways two months ago? Which name? We talked about on the following. Who just part ways? Which big name and big platform just part ways two months ago? Which name? We talked about on the podcast. Walker. No. John Stewart and Apple. Think about that. Can you pull up the story? John Stewart and Apple, so check this out. In a way, I actually respected that decision. You know why? Because you know what John Stewart said? He's not compromised. No, bro, that's, and I'm not a John Stewart guy. Neither I'm politically. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:51 I think it's funny. I think it's very effective. I think sometimes he panders, but I like him, right? I like John Stewart. Daily show hasn't been the same since he left. Oh, that was a question about it. But watch what he says. He walks away from Apple TV show after dispute over AI in China episodes.

Starting point is 00:31:05 You know what John? Respect. Bingo. Even though I know what he's going to say politically, he's going to trash Trump, he's going to trash a lot of capitalism, he's going to do all this stuff and there's nothing wrong with elements of social and all this stuff. I have so much respect that the guy is not willing to say, no, you can't tell me not to talk about AI in China. And Rogers, I'm sorry, Pat McAfee said, nope, I'm sorry, I'm choosing this over me choosing

Starting point is 00:31:38 Aaron Rogers and FYI, the only time we've ever talked about Pat McAfee on our podcast. And by the way, he's a phenomenal entertainer. Okay, I know people that I work with them at Barstool, they tell me something, tell about how it was to work with them. Kind of people work with them at, I think it's Fandool or whoever he was with.

Starting point is 00:31:56 And I got messages about what that relates. I'm talking about like in, in, in, in, in people. And they were kind of like some people said, they were kind of happy that he's no longer with them with Fandall and he's not ESPN. Here's what you can't deny about Pat McAfee. He's able to get eyeballs. He's super entertaining. But here you look at John, John, you can't talk about AI in China. I'm sorry, Apple. I don't give a shit that you're a three trillion dollar company. I'm walking. You know what, John? Boom. I don't have to agree with you. I salute anybody that has values and principles that they're not willing to compromise. More power to you, bro, for doing that. That's all I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:32:30 McAfee's still gonna do well. McAfee's still gonna excel. McAfee's still gonna bring a lot of eyeballs to them. It's just not my cup of tea. That's all it is. And by the way, I think the likelihood of Rogers coming back on next year to follow on your, he's probably gonna have him back on.

Starting point is 00:32:45 But they're probably gonna have a conversation and say, hey, the only thing I ask of you is the following. And Rogers is either gonna say, yes or no, that's what I think's gonna happen. I don't think it's like they hate each other, screw this guy, FM. He doesn't have that kind of personality to hate. It's just I disagree with what you didn't stand for.

Starting point is 00:33:01 Let's go to the next story. All right. So next story, do we want to go into Rob? Which story do you want to go into based on what the Paul is telling us? The Trump Town Hall from last night. All right, so why don't we do the Trump Town Hall and then we'll go into do you have any of that stuff here Rob, a story or no, we just openly talk about it.

Starting point is 00:33:18 Just openly. Okay, sounds good. So Trump Town Hall happened with Fox right off the bat, it was a bread bear. And I thought it was great. And by the way, I have to tell you, I watched the whole thing. And he seemed more presidential than I've ever seen him. I think he was very calm, collected, gave his answers, likable, the delegates that like, I'm for him or I'm for the Santas, I'm in the middle.

Starting point is 00:33:46 Well, I hope I win you vote. It came across as a very much of a he looked cool and relaxed. You look cool and real. And for me to say that, you know, it's true. What'd you think about it? Go for it. I got to tell you a Trump's growing on me. You know, it's you heard here first.

Starting point is 00:34:00 Well, I think I think I'm a good indicator of where the country is. Let me unpack that to it. Four years ago, if you asked me what I thought about Trump, I think I'm a good indicator of where the country is. Let me unpack that. Do it. Four years ago, if you asked me what I thought about Trump, I'd say no frickin' way this guy. But every election is the lesser of two evils. That's, we've been saying that for the last decade. Well, there's that.

Starting point is 00:34:19 At this point in Trump's career, I think he genuinely is like, look, I came into office, I'm gonna drain the swamp, I'm gonna build the wall, I'm gonna genuinely is like, look, I came into office, I'm gonna drain the swamp, I'm gonna build the wall, I'm gonna lock her up, he made all these promises, and he realized that some of those promises actually weren't gonna be get done. And but he also realized that the swamp is real, that the deep state is real,

Starting point is 00:34:38 that the mainstream media agenda to silence him is real. And I don't think he really, really knew what it was up against in 2016. And I think in 2020, with the help of the Wuhan flu, he had the double edged sword with Wuhan and mainstream media coming up against him. January 6th, we can put aside. But I think now, when he looks at you talk about legacy

Starting point is 00:34:57 and where he's at, and he's like, look, I tried to do a job. You guys screwed me over. I want the job back. Do I have a little vendetta? Do I have a little venture? Sure, we'll put that aside. I'll be a dictator on day one.

Starting point is 00:35:10 I'll shut down the border. I'll drill baby drill. But I think at this point, genuinely, genuinely, he knows how Washington works. He knows what the swamp is. He'll hire hopefully the right people that won't try to basically undermine him over round every single turn, leak all his stories.

Starting point is 00:35:26 So I think genuinely this time around, believe it or not, I think it'll be a better Trump administration than the first time. Just because he knows the swamp better than I. I couldn't agree more. And just watching it, one of the main things he said was a piece to strength. I know he said it before, but he's like,

Starting point is 00:35:43 this has been just a lot of chaos. I know you said Pat before, but he's like, this has been just a lot of chaos. I know you said Pat this year's gonna be the year of chaos. I'm gonna say about that later, but he also says he knows who his VP is. He obviously didn't want to say. He could say he knows his VP already. He goes, I know 100%.

Starting point is 00:35:56 He said Chris Christie, right? Yeah. And that was the funniest part. That was the number one viewed clip post. That was Fox News, by the way. Polaris. Polaris. And then they asked him, Brett Barrow was like, well, both of them were like, can you tell

Starting point is 00:36:06 he's like, well, maybe if you had me on another show. So I mean, he's being funny. But he said, when he gets in, it's going to be, he's going to lead the largest deportation effort in the history of the country. And that's what that's going to be a lot of work. Because he also said that by the time this four years is done, the numbers that we're seeing Patrick are completely off. He said by the time Biden is done, guys, are you ready for this? 18 million, 18 million illegals are going to be in this country. And as we know

Starting point is 00:36:36 that they could apparently vote, he also said he doesn't have time for retribution. That's one of the best things that he said is he doesn't have time for this. I'm going to get you. I'm going to get you. We are failing. The ship is sinking. He's going to have to come in and save it. I just hope to God that they let him do it because the year of chaos, who knows what's coming down the pipe? That's right. He said the greatest retribution is massive success. That's how he put it, which is, you know, the famous quote, the greatest revenge of all time. And I, by the way, I kind of like when he said that. I love the fact that, look, we're gonna win so much. That's our retribution to all the haters out there, Tom. Yeah, I think what you're seeing here

Starting point is 00:37:10 is a highly focused Donald Trump as a result of all these assaults on him. These assaults take a toll on any man, no matter how strong you are. And what I think I'm seeing here is a focused, genuine Trump that looks presidential. But what, and I'm seeing here is a focused, genuine Trump that looks presidential. But what, and I'm saying to myself, why do I think he's looking better? Why do I think he's looking like a leader?

Starting point is 00:37:32 Because I think he's focused, I think he's got an underlying purpose, and I think he understands it, they'll stop, and nothing trying to do it. So I think what you saw there was basically, congratulations, guys. You've armed the missile missile and it is now, you know, it's on the launch pad and he's got a lot of focus and he's gaining momentum. He's less bombastic and more measured in what he says. But he hasn't gone Pat McAfee on this pad.

Starting point is 00:38:00 He's not listening to a bunch of advisors and gone Pat McAfee at all. What he's done, you are seeing measured versus bombastic. You are seeing leadership preparing. You are seeing realization of how the enemy goes after him. And I think you put all that together last night. And I believe there are democratic strategists out there, such as a prior president of these United States, that sees this,

Starting point is 00:38:23 and they're not going to say it publicly, but it scares the hell out of them which is why after obama was trying to coach biden biden's team wasn't reacting to it that obama's been leaking all these things and by the way leasing joman obama's leaking this he's leaking all these conversations with biden because he's trying to get him and his team to do it that way because he came behind closed doors and tried to talk to him, and they said, no, no, no, we're gonna keep the strategy

Starting point is 00:38:47 group over here, we're gonna keep these things 100 miles apart, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And guess what, I think they're scared to death of what they saw in that stage also. And Tom, I think you brought up the right word that I think would be very useful for him, and that word is measured. I remember listening to a presidential historian

Starting point is 00:39:04 where they did, what is it called when you do lay out like a word map, you've done that when is measured. I remember listening to a presidential historian where they did, what is it called when you do layout like a word map, you've done that when we did. They take what's they called a word map. Word map, sure. Some of the words are big. Yeah, some of the words, and they said like what's the most important quality for a president? This is the presidential historian, he said measured.

Starting point is 00:39:20 You're dealing with so much stuff. You got so much going on. And it's essentially what you talk about in junior resumes wisely. It's stoicism. When you use emotions, stoic emotion doesn't mean you're not emotional. It just doesn't mean you get triggered or you're thin-skinned.

Starting point is 00:39:34 We all know that Trump, if he's hit, you know, he's someone hits him and hits back 10 times harder. Don't forget the backdrop of this. Whether you think he cared or not, his wife's mother just died. Though the exact same age, she just died. He's a somber, he's posted on his Instagram. He's been married to Melania for what, 20 years now, like it ain't just a stunt and an

Starting point is 00:39:56 a PR thing. We actually took a bet whether they would stay together after presidency ended in 2020. They're still together. His mom dies. He's on a debate stage. He looked measured, he looked cool, he looked calm, he looked collected, how many times can you say that about Trump, those words in one sentence? So I think there's the picture right there,

Starting point is 00:40:15 she looks like a older beauty, it's crazy. Beautiful. But I think he, and then nuance, I think he gave a very nuanced, appropriate response to the culture wars in this country certainly around abortion. He understands that that is a major, major topic

Starting point is 00:40:33 that women, listen, 100,000 votes, one way or another, will determine this election, whether it's in Detroit, whether it's in Madison, whether it's in Philly, whether it's in Vegas, wherever it is, 100,000 votes will move. And if you can convince 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 women to say, you know what? I actually like that response on abortion. He said, it's such a polarizing issue.

Starting point is 00:40:56 We can kind of come together as he called out to Santa's a little bit on this. He basically said it wouldn't be, without Rovers' way being overturned with the Supreme Court because of me, the judges that I picked, six, three basically monopoly right now. We wouldn't even be having this conversation. He said that to a lady that was supporting the Santis that her main issue was on abortion. That's right.

Starting point is 00:41:16 So to me, it comes down to policy and it comes down to personality. His personality seems a lot more cool and measured. Donald, our friend, utilize that. People appreciate when you don't have to be a, you know, Don Rickles comedian up there. But then also policy wise, I think you give a very nuanced approach to the border, I mean, very strength. And then abortion. So I think you did a great job last night. I would give him an A. And I think just to add to that in less than 10 seconds, over the last three months, we're seeing voting blocks trickle back to Trump.

Starting point is 00:41:49 And we're seeing him gain little, tiny bits of voting blocks that you didn't expect to be coming back. And that's happening in the backdrop. And that also scares the hell out of that. But let's, but don't forget guys, we're a year out. The Trump that we all know and a lot of people out there love is going to come because the shots are going to start being fired and guess what?

Starting point is 00:42:10 He's going to fire back and don't get it twisted. This is all nice and he's being presidential. When he gets in, guess what? Not retribution, he is not going to f-around. Because now he's jumping right back into that same swamp and now his eyes are going to be open. Because like, and I get into these arguments all the time Well, Vinnie

Starting point is 00:42:28 Christopher Ray he appointed Christopher Ray. Why I go I go bow He doesn't know anybody in that whole realm when somebody like bar or somebody goes Hey, I recommend pump pump a mic pump a you know what you should get this guy He has to hire people. He's not in Washington and he learned his lesson and now I think this next year's, you're going to see the gloves start coming off as we get later. I think that question goes into the next one, right? And that is the debate that happened last night between the Santas and Haley, which I got a lot of thoughts on that debate last night.

Starting point is 00:42:59 And Rob, I don't know if you have any of the videos or not. It was not pretty. Right off the bat, you could tell these two don't like each other. It was calling out character. It was from the, by the way, even if you open up, to open, if you type in, find the synthesis opening, okay? Just purely his opening. He dropped bomb after bomb, after bomb on Haley. It wasn't even like, let's wait 19 minutes to get into it.

Starting point is 00:43:31 Let's wait seven minutes to get into it. Nothing. Boom! He hit her. And that once, it was like a box or just coming in like with them and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's like holy shit. And then she realized, because I think the reason why he

Starting point is 00:43:45 did that and Rob, if you have the opening, I wouldn't mind playing it. Is that the opening? It is. I'm getting loaded. I loved his opening. If we can get it, I'd love to play the clip of the opening. I know it's a good see if you can do that right. They go all the way to the top.

Starting point is 00:43:58 See if it's not refreshing. Just all that's playing. It's still doing that. Yeah. I kind of like when the that came out with his opening, red hot in Miami at the debate. My Ronald McDaniel and Colin O'Hall, it was fantastic, but when you see it, you're gonna think about why would he come out so strong?

Starting point is 00:44:13 Right after he says that, guess what, Nikki Haley drops. She says go to desantislies.com, go to desantislies.com, she probably said desantislies.com 30 times. Did you see the traffic the website got? Seven people signed up for that website now. It's big time. Seven DeSantis.

Starting point is 00:44:32 It was nonstop traffic, nonstop of her promoting this website. But I think he got a wind that she was gonna come hard and calling out his character for the trust and the lies. And I think she was gonna go hard, craft him. I wanna see this clip, but do me if ever. Go to Twitter, a poll I ran last night, right after the debate. Go to a poll, I ran last night, right after the debate.

Starting point is 00:44:57 Just a poll I ran, okay. Just vote on one of them, whatever, just, okay. All right, so actually, who do you trust more? Look at that. 26,000 people voted. Okay, look at Haley. 1.8%. That's low the margin there.

Starting point is 00:45:13 I put neither because some people are gonna be like, well, you know, we back in Trump and, you know, RFT and all the stuff. Yeah, but 30 to one, people do not trust Haley, but Haley's got the big dollars that she's getting. She was able to get the big dollars and they walked away from the Sanctus.

Starting point is 00:45:32 He called them out on it on the 150 million dollars that you've spent and he's just upset that he lost the money and they came to you and I don't know, I watched the whole thing and I said the Sanctis is 10 times more presidential than Haley is. It ain't even close to me in my eyes. I fully agree with you.

Starting point is 00:45:51 I think if I have given the choice of these two options, let's just be clear. This is the JV option right there. This is not the heavyweight fight. This is the lightweight bout. But these two lightweights went on stage and I would vote for the Santis 100 times out of 100 over Nikki Haley. No question. But this was a pummeling of two political lightweights.

Starting point is 00:46:12 This was a sloppy food fight in the political arena, but instead of tossing mashed potatoes and gravy and green beans, they tossed lies, name calling and call outs. And it was ugly and it just goes to show. I kind of understand why Trump basically was like, I'm good on these debates. I'm above the prey here. I'll do my measured town halls. I'll do my thing with Tucker. Like you remember the first debate without jumping on this stage with this. Now Christie's out. Vivek, our boy, he should have been on stage. Where was he? You got Nikki and you got Ron, just calling each other out. The best line that I think that Nikki had against the Santas

Starting point is 00:46:49 was the mismanagement of $150 million. She said, you were given $150 million. And you mismanaged the hell out of it, Ron. Basically, how the hell are you gonna handle a $26 trillion GDP or a $34 trillion deficit that we got going on debt in America. They're both quick. They both know their stuff.

Starting point is 00:47:09 They both came prepared, but there just seems to be a credibility issue with Nick. There's a video of her, Nicky, saying recently where she's on stage and she's talking about how much she, Hillary Clinton was one of the people. Did you just say Hillary Clinton? I said kill. I don't know why that might be. It's Hillary. Hillary. Anybody have been affording and slip,

Starting point is 00:47:27 but she's used, if you use Hillary Clinton as inspiration, this is what you get. That attitude, that bitterness, and no wonder why Trump got rid of it. I saw two things happen last night for me when I looked at this. First of all, when I saw Pat's poll coming in, it said to me, you know what?

Starting point is 00:47:44 The voter, the people that are out there, and we're talking about the people that follow Pat, so don't tell me, oh, it's not a broad poll. No, that's enough of a poll to tell you the feelings are out there. Vivek's been talking about it, and he was the one that said, Dick Cheney and Heel's, she's an establishment candidate. That was not mud-slinging. That has turned out to be 100% true.

Starting point is 00:48:04 She's uncloaked and exposed to everybody. And the voters are saying, I don't want the establishment and I don't want forever wars and I don't want this. And the voters are saying, I don't want you. But what Patcha said, yeah, the billionaires are getting behind her. Who? Establishment billionaires that want the establishment to continue, status quo to continue. So the first thing that happened to me is it was, thank God, I think some of the voters are paying attention to this, at least by Pat's poll, but who the hell is polling in New Hampshire and Iowa where it's, there's, she's getting traction. Maybe people are realizing it.

Starting point is 00:48:36 The other thing I saw on a less crowded stage, you saw DeSantis as the knowledgeable, argued, good, structured, argued policy wonk. I agree it was a food fight and it was sloppy and messy. But there was one moment there, it was on the immigration where DeSantis absolutely took down Nikki Haley. This is what you didn't South Carolina. This is what you did with China and the relationships. This is what you did here.

Starting point is 00:49:04 And it wasn't these election year spin claims. It was hard facts. And I said, you know what? That's the governor of Florida, that a lot of people in Florida, including me, voted for and liked the guy because he's such a good policy guy and he's such a driven guy. But he's not presidential, but he looked more presidential than she did. But it was a food fight, but there is a glimpse in there of the guy that the people of Florida have seen, and that's why we elected him. Last point, you know, when you actually want to look at the actual agenda, there has to be a pathway to the presidency.

Starting point is 00:49:37 We all know this. So the first three states, we know Iowa's next week, dude, like let the games begin. Iowa's next week, by the way, it's like coldest. It's ever been in Iowa this week. Whether's been ridiculous good call people You're not going to Iowa. I don't know I think something better here in South Florida But the three states that are coming up are Iowa New Hampshire and South Carolina if Rhonda Santas does not Come in first or second in Iowa He's finished because he's not pulling well in New Hampshire.

Starting point is 00:50:06 Nikki's pulling well in New Hampshire. Chris Christie just jumped out of the race. A lot of his 12% that he's winning in New Hampshire might come to her. She might give Trump a run for him. Money in New Hampshire. We'll see. But then the third state is South Carolina. That's Nikki's home state.

Starting point is 00:50:19 She was the governor of South Carolina. So her pathway looks a lot better if the Santos fumbles in Iowa. No, I'm in Rob. None of these videos are working. Do you know why? Because from my end, they're all working here. I don't. I have a message in or tech team to find out. Do you know, did you, are you able to show the other one? I sent you or none of them are showing? Those two are not working for some reason. Everything else is though. Really? Those two are not working. So there's one of the clips. Well, if you can't play there, what I'll do is I'll play it here. I'll just say I want to just just for you to hear

Starting point is 00:50:49 please. The audio and what he says because what what he says about her. You talking about Chris Christie? No, no, no, no, no, no, the hot mic will pull up here. This is the opening. No, God. Well, one of them is the opening, but it's it's when he makes the comparison of, man, you have to listen to the, oh, I'm listening guys, just forget about it. The words is what matters. I mean, you already know what Ron's gonna look like here. Why should voters who are looking for an alternative to the current front runner, former President Trump, look for you rather than former Governor Haley? Well, the people of Iowa, good evening, it's great to be in Iowa, have a debate here.

Starting point is 00:51:26 Donald Trump's running to pursue his issues. Nikki Haley's running to pursue her donors issues. I'm running to pursue your issues. How are you? And your family's issues, and to turn this country around. I'm the only one running that's delivered on 100% of the promises that I've made. We've delivered huge victories in the state of Florida.

Starting point is 00:51:42 Things that Republicans have been asking for for a generation. I'm also the only one running that is beaten the left time and time again. We beat the teachers union on universal school choice. We beat Soros on crime. We beat Fauci on COVID. We beat the Dems on election integrity. And I beat the left by banning China from buying land in the state of Florida. Now, you know, Nikki Haley is running.

Starting point is 00:52:06 We don't need another Mealymouth politician who just tells you what she thinks you want to hear just to try to get your vote, then to get an office and to do her donors bidding. She was in another state and she said the people of Iowa's votes need to be corrected. This is somebody that wrote in her book that Hillary Clinton

Starting point is 00:52:25 inspired her to first run for office. I remember Hillary denigrating people on the Republican side as deplorables. We don't need a candidate. He's going to look down on middle America. We've had enough of that. I'm the only one that's going to be able to lead this country's revival. I'm asking for your support and I won't let you down. Wow. Governor DeSans. I loved it. That's great. And then there's a part where they have a back and forth

Starting point is 00:52:50 where he says about Newsom, okay? This one is actually very funny. I'm sure some of you guys heard this. Watch this. Nikki Haley and me, I listened to all that litany of stuff. I debated the Governor California Gavin Newsom. I thought he lied a lot. Man, Nikki Haley may give him a run for his money.

Starting point is 00:53:07 He's being proliferous in Canada. Wow. We are. I think the difference between... That's pretty solid, by the way. So, you know, Donald Trump is campaigning for his issues. Nikki Haley is campaigning for her donors' issues. Wow.

Starting point is 00:53:22 I'm campaigning for your issues. Whoever wrote that, that writer, wherever you are, high five. Good for you. He's been saying that line wherever he goes. Whatever it is, I love it. I love the fact that he said that about a few different things.

Starting point is 00:53:33 When it comes on to education, she was talking about education. Oh, you let me tell you, I'm this rich education. Ha, da, da, da, da. Her state as a governor, she's ranked 42 out of 50. When it comes on to education,

Starting point is 00:53:44 there was other discussions about where he called her out when, she's like, well, what are you talking about with Ukraine? You keep talking about Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. You want us to do more money for Ukraine. And then she gives her argument as spinning at the fact that, hey, you're making Putin stronger. And then the Santa says, even on Megan Kelly, when she pushed you on, why would you want Ukraine?

Starting point is 00:54:02 Because she said she wants a solution of Ukraine being part of NATO. She says, why would you do that? she said she wants a solution of Ukraine being part of NATO. He says why would you do that? And in making Kelly push, if Ukraine is part of NATO, isn't that indirectly putting US at war with Russia? She fumbled through the answer, couldn't give it. I thought I was very effective.

Starting point is 00:54:17 He says leadership is by getting things done, stop making excuses. Then she turns from getting things done, and she says, he's just upset because his donors came to me. And he says, what difference does it matter if the donors came to me, you know the money? It doesn't mean anything with issues. It just means they came to you, right? Still, she didn't answer the question that he brought up.

Starting point is 00:54:41 She says, that's electromatoma. She said specifically, Trump lost the election, Biden won the election. January 6 is one of the worst days in a history of America. These are things that she's talking about. She's not talking about the fact that there was any meddling or, you know, Twitter, New York posturing, nothing. That's cheating, but she didn't put that. You know, the Santa's call her up for what she said about George Floyd, where she said George Floyd, you know, this is a one of the worst days

Starting point is 00:55:09 and you know, given all that stuff that she talked about, you know, kind of falling for the Black Lives Matter division that was taking place. You know, at the end, when they asked the question, they said, so what do you say about Haley's as well? I like that she did this and she did that and she did this. Hey, Governor Haley, what do you like about Governor DeSantis? He's a good governor.

Starting point is 00:55:29 That's it. That's it. There's an, and the hosts were uncomfortable. There's like a five-second pause. Did you, do you remember that? Rob, can you find that when she says, he's a good governor, Haley. He's a good, is that the one right there?

Starting point is 00:55:43 And I think, that's it. Watch this here, if you can play it. Governor DeSantis, let me ask you. I still don't like the one you would admire about governor Haley. Well, look, I mean, I think that, you know, at the United Nations, I did think that she,

Starting point is 00:55:58 she spoke out strongly on some key issues. And I appreciated that. I also appreciate the state of South Carolina. My wife is a college at Charleston graduate. Her parents live there for many, many years. And so it is a wonderful state. There's a lot of great people there. And I think you'll be able to have been governor there

Starting point is 00:56:17 is a great achievement. And I really appreciate everyone I've gotten to meet in South Carolina. Governor Hailey, what do you would like to remind about Governor DeSantis? I think he's meet in South Carolina. Governor Hailey, what do you would like to remind about Governor Justantis? I think he's been a good gutter. Okay, look at those darn high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high with having females in power and leadership. I'm just saying. What are you saying? They get super emotional. Obviously they hate each other.

Starting point is 00:56:49 Yeah. But he still has the ability to say, you know what I like, South Carolina. And like, Panna, kind of put lipstick on a pig. She's like, she's a mean girl. She's a frickin mean girl. By the way, mean girls is coming out this weekend. She's a mean girl.

Starting point is 00:57:04 She gets emotional. If she's smart, if she's capable, if she's tough, sure, does she dick chaining and heels great, right? If she uses her heels as a machine gun, whatever the hell the reference was. But at the time where you could just be fucking nice for two seconds. He's a get-gavin' her.

Starting point is 00:57:19 You're lying, man. Even Hillary could do it. Hillary, exactly. I was just gonna say, she's worse than Hillary. She's worse than, but do you see that? Dude, just look at her, or look at her persona, and you know what it comes down to,

Starting point is 00:57:31 when you spend 68, or what, almost $70 million on your campaign, because you're a war machine, you're a war hawk, and guess what it's starting to look like? The guy that's gonna come in, doesn't want war, and we're not gonna try to go to war, that's the face that you make, and that's's evil because she wants people to die, bro.

Starting point is 00:57:47 You want war? You want people to die. And that's that angry. I'm not going to get the war that all these people are investing in. Something else has to. I agree with that point of heart. She's an nasty woman. An nasty.

Starting point is 00:57:58 No, about the whole war machines up. Something else happens when fewer and fewer and fewer people are on stage for these debates. They're not debates. They're sound bites and responses. This isn't real like structured debate. But when the crowd on stage is smaller, the light shines brighter and the truth comes out. Because you can't stand over here. Do you remember when DeSantis was just smiling in the middle? can't stand over here. Do you remember when DeSantis was just smiling in the middle while awkwardly smiling? Awkwardly, while the St. Louis Arch was going over him

Starting point is 00:58:31 in this war between Vivek and Haley. Remember that? With Christy over there chiming in from the other side, supporting Haley in her assault on Vivek. You can't do that when there's only two people in stage. You don't get, you don't get, hey, I'm gonna take this round off

Starting point is 00:58:48 and I'm just gonna sit here and smile and I'm gonna let these two people run their character assassinations or drop their sound bites on each other that they attack. All of a sudden, the truth of who you are come out and you look at her expression, you look at what was there, you see the establishment, war machine, personified and you see a measured policy walk

Starting point is 00:59:09 that I don't think is ready to be president on the other side. And bit of a food fight. I love the fact you called it a food fight. I think it's such an appropriate- This is what Vivek said, by the way. This is what Vivek is predicting, which by the way,

Starting point is 00:59:21 let me know if you agree with this or not with the processes, but go ahead. The system wants to narrow this down to a two horse race between Donald Trump which by the way, let me know if you agree with this or not with the processes, but go ahead. and the next one is the first one. The next one is the first one. The next one is the first one. The next one is the first one. The next one is the first one. The next one is the first one. The next one is the first one.

Starting point is 00:59:56 The next one is the first one. The next one is the first one. The next one is the first one. The next one is the first one. The next one is the first one. The next one is the first one. the same people who have said they're not going to actually take a principled stand against Trump's removal from the ballot. Haley and DeSantis are both in that category. Do the math people. That's next up. Ron DeSantis is after Iowa everybody, including Chris Christie apparently got a phone call

Starting point is 01:00:12 from Ron DeSantis. Panicked was the word that Chris Christie used. This is the way the plot's going. Ron may not know this. Ron DeSantis may not know this, but that's what his donors are going to make him do. That's what's coming next. Ron DeSantis will become Nikki's VP, whether or not Ron knows it,

Starting point is 01:00:26 it's not really his choice. He's not the one in charge of that decision. And then the plot continues. We have to open our eyes and not fall into their trap. Our America first agenda cannot end. Our movement cannot end with Donald Trump when they take him out from contention. And if you think this system is going to even

Starting point is 01:00:43 let this man get anywhere near the White House, we need to open our eyes. We need to do the right thing for our country. They are selling us the rope today that they're going to use to hang us tomorrow. Do not fall into the trap people and that's why I'm here. Can I say one thing about this guy? When it comes to being a communicator, 10 out of 10, Vivek Ramaswami, I would say that he's the Andrew Tate of politics today. I mean gifted beyond teaching communicator. And when it comes down to Trump being the nominee, which I think we know it's inevitable,

Starting point is 01:01:18 other than VP Vivek, take your pick, whatever cabinet position you want, you got it. That's how good he is, and he's only 38 years old. I mean, I was just going to ask you, if right position you want, you got it. That's how good he is. And he's only 38 years old. I mean, I was just going to ask you, if right now you had the guest, no, no, guys, guys, guys, guys, isolate what he just said. Do you agree with him? The fact that the Santhus is going to drop out and be Nikki Haley's VP? Do you agree with that assessment time? I don't, I don't think I line up with that assessment, but I 100% line up with his court thought that there are bigger wheels and bigger hands moving levers in the

Starting point is 01:01:51 in the election. I think everybody knows that, right Tom, to your point, but everybody knows that there's some going on behind the scenes. It's not like, whoa, breaking news, the deep state doesn't want Trump in there. We know that. But his his manner of which it happens, the deep state doesn't want Trump in there. We know that, but his manner of which it happens, the mechanisms, the VEK teaming up with the lady, he just got in a food fight with, I'm sorry, DeSantis teaming up with Haley. I don't see that happening. But VEK knows some shit and he's seen some shit that we've never even known, like behind closed doors. But that's not so far-fetched.

Starting point is 01:02:20 I mean, look at what Kamala, Kamala, crap all over Joe Biden, like you racist, and then the next day she's like, oh, he's the greatest. It's politics and they're all foolish. I mean, it's a possibility. I don't think so. Her famous attack on him, Kamala Harris, when he said, and I don't know of a really successful woman

Starting point is 01:02:41 who's been all the way to the Senate. And she goes, I'm right here. You know, members of the yellow group, I'm right here. And you're right. And then later it was, you know, so what do you think, Tom? Let's go back to this. Do you think this is gonna happen or no? Do you think the Sanctus is gonna drop out

Starting point is 01:02:59 and go indoors, Haley? I believe San is just gonna drop out. I do not believe that his donors went to her and that's a sign for me. I think he'll support her. Will he be on her ticket? I don't think so. I don't think she's gonna have it.

Starting point is 01:03:15 So you think if so Christie comes out and mother of a do you have the recording for Christie Rob? If you can just play that recording, Christie comes out and you know, go ahead, go ahead and play that. You know. I forget she spent $68 million. I mean, oh, when you get landed,

Starting point is 01:03:33 I know in places like that. Yeah, that's what you get. Yeah, I mean, look, she spent $68 million so far. She's on TV, she spent $68 million so far, $59 million by DeSantis at WeStrength 12. Yeah, me. I mean, who's by DeSantis and we spent 12. I mean, who's punching above their weight and who's getting a return on their investment, you know, and she's going to get smoked.

Starting point is 01:03:53 And you and I both know that she's not up to this. She's still 20 points behind front and no, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And he's going to carry out. Yes, always. I talk to this. DeSantis called me petrified. I would be like getting out of half well Why does Chris? Chris continue to make weight jokes. I mean how does just stop how is he he's punching up over weight?

Starting point is 01:04:16 Trump is unfit to be president. Yeah, Chrissy Respect, bro. Have you looked in a mirror recently? What's with the weight jokes? Pat? I believe there's a lot goes on with the donors and if the donors have left the donots Chris Christie The donor donors. So the donors that have left DeSantis and gone to Haley those donors many of them aren't just his presidential donors They were his gubernatorial donors And so I think the donors carry a lot of weight. And so will DeSantis begrudgingly support Haley when he drops out? I think he will. And I think

Starting point is 01:04:53 there's a donor mechanism back there. But will he pledge to be her VP? I'm a hard-known. Pat, I'm going to stay on topic. Just think about in the last six months or 12 months, what does Santas could have done? He could have been freaking Trump's VP. If he had a little bit of loyalty. Now we're basically saying he's gonna be basically Nikki Ailey's potential VP. Think about the exact opposite of transcendence that just Rhonda Santas has done.

Starting point is 01:05:19 What do you think? I mean, I've been saying this since my, I've been saying this since his book came out April May. Oh yeah, no, I know that. Oh yeah, you know where I'm saying this since May. I mean, I've been saying this since his book came out April May. Oh, yeah, no, I know that. Oh, yeah, you know where I stand with that position. But people, when Decentre's is by himself, by himself, I think he's a good guy. I think Decentre's a good guy.

Starting point is 01:05:36 Okay, I don't like Haley and I don't trust Haley. I just, let me rephrase like, I don't notice I can't say I don't like Runa. I don't like a reproach. She comes across like I told you already, you know I'm better than you know telling the waitress. Hey, hey come here I see her as that that she's above everybody right. I'm not a fan of that But to me the Santis is probably by himself, you know sitting there when you lose a championship What do you do? Like man? What if I made that play and I would have screened

Starting point is 01:06:05 and I would have done this and I didn't also for the ball and why didn't I have so for the ball? What was I thinking when I filed the guy? I knew I had already four fouls and I was gonna be taking on the fourth quarter with seven minutes of, what are you thinking? What a stupid foul, no matter, you're going through all, you're replaying all this stuff, you as an athlete,

Starting point is 01:06:20 you know exactly what I'm talking about. You do this in relationship, you do this in friendships, you do this in business, you do this in sports, he's gonna go through that and he's already doing that. And you rarely do that with others. You only do that with yourself. You don't even do that with your wife sometimes. You do it with yourself.

Starting point is 01:06:36 He's done that already. But at the same time, guess what? This is the game of politics, man. I was having a conversation with a couple of my guys, early on in my career, one time I had the most embarrassing loss ever. It was so bad that the chairman of the company in front of a thousand people brought me up on stage.

Starting point is 01:06:55 It was me and this other guy, and they were gonna give the MVP and the history of the company, this has never happened before, where they bring the loser and the winner on stage, and they make the loser give the winner the MVP. And they're trying to do. And they know this works with me. So it's good. So I'm like, okay, so I go up there and I'm like, who do you think? Who do you think? What do you think? And obviously he ends up winning the MVP. And I hand the MVP over to the guy. And I whisper to him, I said, respect to you. You outworked me this

Starting point is 01:07:25 year, you get the credit for this. I said, but let's face it, bro, you and I are not the same level. For the rest of your life, people are going to forget about you. They're not going to forget about what I'm going to do. When I was at age, gave them the respect. I had a fight him. I gave him love. I gave salute him. I said, I love the fact that we're doing this. Came back, gave a message to our team guys. You guys have been fantastic. You've done your part, but let me tell you, no one has any clue what's gonna happen when we go back.

Starting point is 01:07:50 Went back to the group, we had a nice little meeting with them, and then we came back and killed everybody. You have to learn how to lose. It sucks. Learning how to lose sucks. It sucks. And by the way, for people like, well, you know, you don't know what you're talking about because Michael had to learn how to lose with the Detroit

Starting point is 01:08:08 Pistons and he came back and he redeemed himself. The greatest athlete of all time had to learn how to lose. So he has to go through this process of knowing how to do that and come out and still say, what loyalty do I have to niki Haley? Nothing. What loyalty do I have to trump? More than Haley. Say you hate them both. This guy's done more for me than she's done for me. She's a back stabbing, manipulating, do I really want to go behind this person? Because if he does endorse Haley,

Starting point is 01:08:40 he not only loses a job in the administration, say if he wants it, but forget about the administration, you lose a shot in the future. Because if he does come out and go this way, guess what Trump's gonna do? Trump's gonna forgive like this, move on, and come back and edify and build him up, right? So I think the centess is going through that right now,

Starting point is 01:08:59 and I don't know whether he's gonna go in and do it, silly, I don't know if I agree with Vivek. I think the right move is step out, don't endorse anybody yet. Just keep it cool, keep it collected. Let them call you, have a private meeting with everybody, have a private meeting with Trump's camp. You know your camp's going to talk to his camp

Starting point is 01:09:20 and see what you guys can work out together. And then if you are afraid of what's gonna happen with America and what direction we're going, then what would it look like if you and Trump are seen on stage together? And you guys say stuff to each other, you know he's gonna build you up, you know you're gonna build him up,

Starting point is 01:09:39 you know what you're gonna do to America? You're gonna do to America what Nicky Haley can't do. Okay, that's what you're gonna do. Nicky Haley is establishment, your hybrid, some people think you're gonna do to America what Nikki Haley can't do. Okay, that's what you're gonna do. Nikki Haley is establishment. You're a hybrid, some people think you're establishment, some people think you're anti-establishment. I think you're more trump than you are Haley. I think that's what's gonna happen,

Starting point is 01:09:56 and I'd like to see that take place, but it is politics, this is an unpredictable game, and Tom makes a point with the donors. So you're gonna have to know, donors have a lot of control. We'll see what's gonna happen there in. That's my position on this situation here. Anyways, let's move forward to the next story here.

Starting point is 01:10:12 All right, so let's go to, which one do we wanna go to? Let's go to SEC authorizes Bitcoin, Spot, ETF, encrypt those breakthrough. There's, this is, Rob, is this the most recent, recent story because one just came out last night. Do you have the most recent one?

Starting point is 01:10:32 Is that the one I'm reading? Because that's the one I want to read. Let me go. No, the most recent one will be up on the screen. Okay, then pull up the one up on the screen. So SEC approves rule change that paved the way for Bitcoin, ETF, the approval could prove to be a landmark event in the adoption of cryptocurrency

Starting point is 01:10:47 by mainstream finance. The decision will likely lead to the conversion of grayscale Bitcoin trust, which holds $29 billion of cryptocurrency into an NFT. Traditional asset managers include BlackRock and Fidelity are also poised to launch Bitcoin funds. This has two different meanings. Tom said something before we started a podcast, I don't want to steal a stunder, I want him to give his perspective on what he thinks this is to him because a lot of people are sitting there saying,

Starting point is 01:11:14 this is big, this is this, this is that. Tom, what does this mean to you? Congratulations, Bitcoin. This is day one of your regulated life. That is what's happening here. It doesn't mean that all the good things and everything about crypto and Bitcoin are going away. It just means that there is people saying

Starting point is 01:11:34 this legitimizes Bitcoin. Well, I would challenge that statement and say, you're right, but this also steps up where you're going to regulate Bitcoin. And what's interesting is SEC chair Gary Gensler, he clarified, he said, let me clarify this quote, while we approve the listing and trading of spot Bitcoin ETP shares, we did not approve or endorse Bitcoin. Wait a minute, you did approve it. It's basically like the Pimp saying, I'm happy

Starting point is 01:12:06 to make money in prostitution, but I don't endorse it. That's exactly what Tom goes for. Big pants. That's what he just said. So he's been stuck. They are desperately trying not to endorse it, but they are also eagerly stepping forward to start regulating it. So basically what they've said is now it can be trade. So in other words, an ETF can buy some Bitcoin and put it in there. That's what they're saying. So if you bought an ETF that was in speculative currencies or something like that, and it's got a few things in there, okay, now Bitcoin can be part of that basket.

Starting point is 01:12:45 But this is day one of a different future for Bitcoin. It does legitimize it, but it also means that now the SECs can be making the rules. So I think they're calling this a watershed moment for Bitcoin. Look, we see that Bitcoin is now at $47.5. I think it's all-time peak was what, in the high 60s, almost 70. So they're saying that this could be the reason that it can pummel it up to $100,000 per coin. We'll see what happens there. But look, regulation for the most part can be a good thing. What does regulation do?

Starting point is 01:13:16 You guys know this dealing with the insurance stuff and the annuity stuff and the financial planning stuff. You said legitimacy, no doubt. It gives trust into the marketplace and it gives credibility. So bad actors and people who are basically taking advantage of people, sorry, you're not going to be able to scam as many people

Starting point is 01:13:32 with whatever you're doing. There's going to be some regulation there. And over regulation, as I think what people have a problem with, but laying down regulation, the law of the land, so to speak, the road map to how to basically trade this type of asset class. I think overall is going to be a good thing. And I think it will help legitimize the good actors in the crypto space.

Starting point is 01:13:53 But by the way, a lot of there's a community in the crypto side that wants that. There's a community in the crypto sounds like dude, just tell us what the regulation is. So we can know, you know, we can pivot accordingly and move forward. Yeah, I look at regulation. Like if you look at a football game, you know, very nuanced games, 50 yards, I have read. Tell us the, you never heard of footballs. All the guys out there. So there's American, you know, there's American football guys and then there's the regular. No, no, what I'm saying is, not the rules like, you know, but like in general, it's like, okay, 10 yards is a first down. Good. Got it. Right. You can kick a field goal on fourth down, like basic rules, two point like rule rather than you 11 you 11 just run around

Starting point is 01:14:30 and do shit and we'll just kind of keep score the add no there's regulation that now when they're like over regulated it gets to the point where it's annoying where well you can't dance in the end zone or if you're not if your socks are in a certain length that's over regulation. But regulation in sport and in finances, actually a good thing without being too cumbersome and burdensome on the rules. In 2008, it was a good thing that they came back and they regulated loans because a lot of basic American consumers got really hurt by getting into bad loans.

Starting point is 01:15:03 Nina. Yeah, they came back. to income, no assets. That's right, they came back, and by the way, the people pushing them into it, mortgage brokers, wanted their commission, but then the clientele, the consumer, often not an informed consumer, was taking advantage of and ended up in debt in a bad pinch with that.

Starting point is 01:15:22 So some regulation is good. It's good that insurance companies are regulated, so there's a sufficient loss reserve so that if everybody covered by state farm home insurance in Alabama when Hurricane comes through, state farm has the money to pay. And it's good to have that regulation there. Where the over regulation happens

Starting point is 01:15:40 is what's happening now in insurance, is where Elizabeth Warren says, wait a minute. I don't think the salespeople should make this kind of a commission. Wait, wait, who the hell are you? We're all over. The DOL stuff she's doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who the hell are you?

Starting point is 01:15:53 You know, we have a good industry here. People who get an insurance policy, it's protecting their family. The money is there when the, you know, ultimate the person passes away so it can protect the family. It's sort of the family. And you're here on the front end trying to tell people what they should pay their employees in turn of commission. Lizzy, baby, you take you and your fake,

Starting point is 01:16:11 you know, native American background and get out of this, get out of this side of it, that's over regulation to your point. You leave Pukohana alone, okay? Is that the most expensive thing? Like, because for one Bitcoin, $47,000, is that the most expensive thing for one, for one Bitcoin, $47,000, is that the most expensive thing for one thing on the, for a stock market?

Starting point is 01:16:29 Well, they're maybe, no, no, no, no. Berkshire and half the way is like, you know, Berkshire and half the way is always hovering between $250,000 to $500,000. If you wanted to, If you want to, if you want to, type in, what is Berkshire and half the way share? That's impressive.

Starting point is 01:16:41 That's impressive. For one share? Well, one share, what is Berkshire and half the way share? He's A's and B's, $533,000 for one share. One share. Yeah, that's in price of one share. One share. What is birch or hat to share? He's a isn't B is 500 and 53,000 dollars for one share. One share. This is the plot. This is the is. Yeah, if you have one share of Brooks, go to go to five year, go to five year on where you are, go all the way to the right. Yeah, there you go. Let's get. Look at it. It's a

Starting point is 01:16:59 553,000 dollars of share right now for Brooks, our halfway. Okay. If you wanted to buy a share. That just taught me something. That's the, you know, I didn't know that Berkshire, 500, so, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but with the late Charlie Munger. But yeah, so that's that point. Next question. California lawmakers to consider ban on tackle football for kids under the age of 12. Is this a good thing or is this a bad thing? So California lawmakers are set to discuss a bill proposing ban on this for children under

Starting point is 01:17:40 12 with the first public hearing underway. The bill authored by Democratic Assembly Member, Kevin McCarty, different than the one you think, aims to protect children from documented brain damage risk associated with tackle football proposed, amendments would gradually phase in the ban until 2029 if it passes,

Starting point is 01:17:59 advocates argue that tackle football possesses a significant risk of brain damage, including chronic traumatic insuff, lapathy, or something like that. CTE and assert that children should not be exposed to these dangers, while no state has yet banned youth tackle football, similar bills introduced in California, New York, Illinois, previously failed to pass. Despite of the client in high school tackle football participation in California, wow, the client and high school tackle football participation California. Wow. A decline in high school tackle football participation California. There was a 5% increase in 2023 reaching 89,178. You know, good idea or bad idea. First of all,

Starting point is 01:18:36 I think it's look at that participation dropped in tackle football from 15 to 22 by 18% from 103,000 kids. Tom to 84,000. But last year it000 kids, stumped to 84,000. But last year it went from 84,000 to 89,000. Go ahead. It's funny how California cares about kids getting tackled at 12 years old, but guess what, gender, chop your crop, they're totally cool. Like, we'll protect your brain,

Starting point is 01:18:59 but when it comes to your crotch and your genitalia, guess what? Get rid of it. Like, look, look at the priorities of California. It all comes down to Gavin Newsom. What a whore, like who gives, like that's your concern, but when it comes to their sexuality and everything,

Starting point is 01:19:16 chop it off. I think it's stupid. I think at that age, as we all know, because I had him play time, you're doing something tackling, tackling at 12. That's when you're supposed to be getting tackled. And if God forbid something happens, you break a bone, it heals like that.

Starting point is 01:19:32 That's what gets you tougher. That's what gets these boys to be participating. I think it's stupid. Who has an opposing position to him, Tom? Are you different than where he's at? I look at it this way. California is trying to protect children. They're doing it.

Starting point is 01:19:47 Yeah, in this one, in this narrow little way. Yeah. You know, Kevin McCarthy wants to protect kids from tackle football. There's a lot of stats out there. There was also some, a year ago, I've had to have a year ago, I think I brought the stats of the podcast. If you take a look at families earning more than $50,000 a year and families earning less than $50,000 a year football participation for those over $50,000 a year was plummeting and you've got stats as plummeting and

Starting point is 01:20:13 LaCross and soccer were skyrocketing those were those were the replacements because kids want to play They want to be competitive whereas the under 50,000 people still had their kids participating in football Whereas, under 50,000 people still had their kids participating in football. It is a fact that the younger you start, the more you're exposed to CTE. And the NFL has had a lot of things going on with CTE and had an unfortunate truth there. I just don't think it's the state to ultimately ban it. This is stepping in more for parents should make decisions. If you're gonna ban football completely, ban it.

Starting point is 01:20:49 Get that through Congress. See if you can do that. Yeah, good luck. Ban it. Good luck. It's a sport. We play it. It's national, and you can make a decision to do it or not. Now, let me go one step further. Now do you step in and say kids under 12 can't ride skateboards and do tricks at the skate parks and can't ride the motocross and

Starting point is 01:21:12 do all X-game saying because it's not safe and because you get head injury. Where does it stop? I think it's wrong for California to get involved and to do this. This is parents decision. If I want to let my kid do X Games skateboard stunts and I'm gonna risk the injuries to him, if I'm gonna let him do motor cross, that's up to me as a parent. So I played football in high school. I played football in college.

Starting point is 01:21:37 Let me tell you something. At the end of the day, boys are gonna play football too. Yep. Tackling each other. Like some of my greatest memories and talk about 12 years old middle school. Any of my friends that are watching the show, every Friday, all the boys, there was 20 of us, whatever it was, we'd go to the field right behind the school, take a pic team and kill each other. Just destroy each other at 12 years old, 13 years

Starting point is 01:22:01 old. We did that every single year, every single Friday, had the best time of our lives. So this day, we still talking, oh, remember, when you crack back your boy, that's what boys are gonna do. But when he comes to actual tackle, so cool, wanna play flag football? I get it if you're young, play flag football. But what football is gonna do?

Starting point is 01:22:18 And playing with pads is a totally different sport. And playing flag. Okay, I know kids that were 12, 13, 14, fast, tough, good kids. You put some pads on? No, they're out. Forget about that. That's why they said that Jewish guys peak when they're basically 13.

Starting point is 01:22:32 I don't know. I grew my, I grew my, I, uh, six foot 200 pounds. But what football will do, like no other sport, it'll teach you teamwork, leadership, accountability, commitment, toughness, grit, taking out aggression. We know about testosterone in this country, resilience, masculinity. This is good for young boys. And I don't know how you're going to regulate someone trying to go out back, play the football,

Starting point is 01:22:57 throw around the pigskin, get tough, have fun. You make friends, you make enemies, you learn about life, all in the football field. Don't overregulate this nonsense. And it teaches you about war, because football is basically, let's take their land, right? And so you get together, you make plans, you go up there with blitzes and bombs and other things, and you're basically trying to take them. Yeah, and if you're, and it's welcoming,

Starting point is 01:23:19 if you're in the LGBTQ AI plus community, everybody's wearing tights, for the poor back, you can put your hand under a guy's crotch and just yell numbers. Red 38, you can just, no, it's welcoming, it's loving, it's, you can shower with everybody. There's great positions, tight in it. Tight in it, wide receiver, fifth gone,

Starting point is 01:23:39 the polling guard, we don't know about that. We don't know about that. Football is grooming. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, guys, so it's well, my gosh. Well, it's, that. I'm on something. Football is grooming. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, guys. So it's well, my gosh. But it's, yeah, I think dude, I think California has more important shit to worry about

Starting point is 01:23:52 than 12 year old kids wearing their helmets. They're protecting their brains. Well, how about protecting their gender and not letting them chop off their genitals? And let their parents decide what's inside. Yeah, your mom and the, oh, I think it's a parents when it comes to the sports thing. I don't think like Nikki Haley said,

Starting point is 01:24:07 going back to Nikki Haley, where they ask her about gender affirming care for a 12 year old, you know what she said? That's up to the parents. No, no, no, no, no, no. Because you could be a psychotic parent and go, you know what? I want my kid to be a girl.

Starting point is 01:24:20 Now he was born a boy because he told me once that that's what he wants. No, no, no, I don't play that shit. You know what being Vinny do when time to time we're just, you know, in between podcasts we literally go outside. Yup. In the freaking parking lot and throw the route. I go routes.

Starting point is 01:24:34 I do routes on concrete. We're throwing routes Vinny's laying out. He's tiptoeing in the end zone. I dented a Natalya's car. I hit my head on it. But you caught the ball Vinny. I caught it. Not to fall down. Not the whole matter.

Starting point is 01:24:45 Priscilians toughness. Yeah. This is what we're talking about. Yeah. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready.

Starting point is 01:24:53 I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready.

Starting point is 01:25:01 I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm-year-old man. I appreciate that past served in the air force. Who's on the net? If you want it up the year. Guys, I said one thing too. I've been getting my necks on, like, just shot out to everybody just really fast-packed. Joe, Robert, Eduardo, Marko, they're all like, hey, you're getting that suit. I love you guys. I love you. Let's go, man. I love you.

Starting point is 01:25:22 Daddy need a new suit. Alright, let's go to the next one. By the way, you see the QR code for some of you guys that haven't yet been connected. Adam, Tom just lowered his price again. Get macho guys. It's free. Tom, do it for free at this point.

Starting point is 01:25:35 He don't need the money. Let's go, let's go to the next one. Do we want to go to the underground tunnel? Do you want to go to the comments they made about the assassination, the journalist? Or do you want to go to Eric Adams, migrants, Stain and Holmes in New York? We have to do the New York one. Okay, go to the New York one.

Starting point is 01:25:50 We'll all stay in New York anyway. Let's do that. So New York City students forced to go remote as city houses nearly 2,000 migrants displaced by storm at their schools. Insane, yes, true, yes, here we go. So students at Brooklyn High School were removed to remote learning to accommodate nearly 2,000 migrants evacuated from a storm, threatened tent shelter at Floyd Bennett Field,

Starting point is 01:26:19 leading to local residence concerns. One resident remarked, this is F-Dup, expressing worry about the immigrants, migrants, background and vetting, and another question the decision asking, why not send them somewhere where students wouldn't be disrupted. The cities moved prompted by concerns of a collapsing tent shelter due to heavy rain

Starting point is 01:26:38 and strong winds with gusts up to 70 miles per hour forecast that the decision faced backlash from locals and some question the suitability of Floyd Bennett's field as a 10th complex would one councilman stating, it was common sense. Do you have the clip prop to show this? Is there a video clip you have on this? I sent them one of a mom pat.

Starting point is 01:26:57 She's outside the school. They're busing all these people in, and she's screaming. It's like midnight. Her kids have to go to school the next day, but now it's canceled. Did I say,. Her kids have to go to school the next day, but now it's canceled. Did I say, not bother, did I say it to you? It's the mom.

Starting point is 01:27:09 It's the mom. No, Rob, you said you have an Eric Adams met migrants staying in a home of a video. I do. I have a clip of Eric Adams where he says that if the shelters are overrun, people may have to start welcoming migrants to their homes.

Starting point is 01:27:20 Play this. Play this. It's my vision to take the next step to this, go to the faith base, low cows, and then move to private residents. They are residents who are suffering right now. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. The challenges go back to time I understand what that means.

Starting point is 01:27:39 But go back to, go back to three seconds. Yeah, play that again, right there. Low cows, and then move to private residents. They are residents who are suffering right now because of economic challenges. They have spare rooms. They have low cows. And we can find a way to get over the 30-day rule

Starting point is 01:28:01 and other rules that government has in this place. We can take that $4.2 billion, $4.3 million, it may be now, that we potentially have to spend, and we can put it back in the pockets of every day New Yorkers. Listen, what a great, what, do you understand what that means? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What a great idea, guys, all these illegals, you know what, if you have a daughter, if you have young women in your house, bring in a couple of random dudes from another country to be at home with your impact. This is the lady outside James Madison High School in Brooklyn. This

Starting point is 01:28:35 is, dude, it's fenced off like January 6th and look what they're doing. They're busting in. Look at this mom. Is the volume, what's the volume? How does it feel? You feel good? I hope you feel good. I hope you must speak better than those in the house. Look at it, it's like a fortress. I just made it in the mother, that's what. Look at the buses, cops. Now look at that. Look at this.

Starting point is 01:28:54 Look at this. That's the door. It's a bus. Look at that. Unbelievable. I thought my kids told me. OK, pause that. So let's go through, let's go through a couple things here, Tom.

Starting point is 01:29:08 What do you mean mayor says? Residence. Number one. So you mean to tell me I have to take on people to stay on my house and take care of them? Why do I have to do that? So your bad policies, I'm the beneficiary of it, you chose that bad policy of sanctuary city. You chose that bad policy of inviting them. Hey, remember that, do you have that one

Starting point is 01:29:31 clip of the governor saying, if other places don't want you come here, come to New York and say, now listen, you guys got to call this shit's not working. I love that flip-flop. You gotta turn back, Garan and go, it is not gonna be happening. What happened? This is called bad policies, have consequences, and no wonder Governor Cuomo said, people left, I'm just telling you, and they're not coming back. We lost tax revenue from the rich that went to Florida. Why do you think they left to Florida? Why do you think they left to Florida? Why do you think they did that, right?

Starting point is 01:30:08 Tom, when you hear something like this, what do you think about? First of all, let's break this down. The 30-day rule he's talking about is Airbnb. People were complaining. Let's say the three of you live in some townhouses, some townstones. I made some money, and so I also have a place in Florida, and I come down to Florida for

Starting point is 01:30:28 the winter. I start renting my brown stone, which is right between in the middle of the three of you as an Airbnb. Sometimes it gets a little loud. Sometimes people are smoking dope out on front because it was five college guys that ran town for the Army Navy game. You guys complained to New York, hey, thisb short-term rental crap has got a stop okay great we're gonna put the thirty-day rule in here that if you're

Starting point is 01:30:52 renting it for less than thirty days that um you can't do that and so they did that in there to stop air bnb in the city now they're coming back saying the 4.2 4.3 billion let's put that into the pockets of new yorkers and get around the thirty-day rule in other words wait a minute tom's empty brownstone let's pay tom but let's put illegal immigrants in there the three of you are going to go back to city hall go wait a minute i thought we

Starting point is 01:31:21 came to city hall that said tom was running it out to short-term rentals and crazy people that were smoking dope out front and these fracked guys in town for army navy games and I thought we put an end of the short-term Airbnb because it was affecting our neighborhood. You're telling me now that we stopped that. You're going to tell Tom, Tom's going to get money not from Airbnb, but from Eric, Eric's going to give me some of that $4.2 billion to put illegal aliens of a short term in my brownstone. Ladies and gentlemen, that's what you just heard. I may be getting a little loud and emotional here.

Starting point is 01:31:55 No, I love it. That is what we just heard. You got to give it to the Democrats. We're like, well, of course, how else are you usable? Wait a minute. We could be an Airbnb with taxpayer money. How else are you supposed to treat your voters, Patrick? How are Democrat voters?

Starting point is 01:32:11 Because this is what these people are. Like you got to kick out. Can you imagine? You're a father, your kids at one time, they're going to high school in Brooklyn. And imagine the phone call, hey, your kids can't come in tomorrow, possibly for the week. And you're like, oh my God, was there, was there a gas leak, was there, no, no, people that don't belong in the country

Starting point is 01:32:29 have to go and sleep inside that school because those are future voters for decades to come for the party. And if you think about it, I'm from Yonkers, New York. Okay, a lot of people, oh, Yonkers ain't New York shut up. Okay, New York City has fallen. It has literally become Gotham City. And you nailed it.

Starting point is 01:32:48 What'd you talk about? How many times have you said it? Bad ideas, bad policies. This is what you get. It's basically Gotham. Okay, crime is skyrocketing. There's migrants taking over high schools. There's tunnels.

Starting point is 01:33:00 Would you wish people just digging under buildings? Look at the party. Dude, what is going? Yeah, by the way, we'll show it at the end. You saw the video a bit but what is going on with New York City? But it used to be the greatest city on the planet. Not anymore, bro. You talked about bad policies says it all the time. Right. So this whole sanctuary city concept, like let's just break that down for a second. That concept is being exposed. Because essentially what it comes down to is that it's prioritizing the illegal's over-citizens.

Starting point is 01:33:33 It's prioritizing migrants over-students. I get it that you need to have some empathy, but what happened to the rule of law on this land? Doesn't fly. So meanwhile, you see what Texas is dealing with millions, millions of illegals crossing the border, let a couple tens of thousands come to New York City or Nantucket or Marcus Vineyard. Oh, no, no, no. And no speaking English, okay, no, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 01:33:58 Exactly. So this is what Texas is going to do. There you go, speaking of Biden right there. Listen, if you add up Obama and Trump, it still wouldn't be as much as whatever's happening under last three terms combined. So whatever this is, meanwhile, Biden and Eric Adams, the mayor of Newark, I guess haven't even spoken in a year.

Starting point is 01:34:16 Nope. They're not even on the same page whatsoever. I don't know what the governor of Kathy Holcomb's doing out there, but it's a mess. But when you're prioritizing illegals or migrants over your citizens, look what they did in California. They're given illegals, migrants, free healthcare. Meanwhile, you got veterans leaving homeless.

Starting point is 01:34:35 So when we say it's all jacked up, something's jacked up going to this country. And just imagine being that guy in New York when they're like, hey, here's your new roommate, Pico, and he're like, hey, here's your new roommate, Pico. And he's like, hello. Hello. Hello.

Starting point is 01:34:48 Hey, come here. I can't believe with you. What do you mean? What do you mean? Yeah. Yeah, I said I'm gonna be a roommate on top of your head. Yeah. No.

Starting point is 01:34:55 Yeah, so you're gonna put a bunk bed with me. No, I don't want it. No, Pico. But you asked what, Adam. You said why? Pablo, honey. Pablo, honey. You can't come to the floor of that.

Starting point is 01:35:04 But if you guys really think, let's really, let's bring it all the way back is why. Don't fall into this bullshit humanitarian. Oh, we're like, AOC and all these people. Oh my God, going to the border and hugging it and crying and those cages that Trump built will be under Obama. So let's go all the way back.

Starting point is 01:35:23 It's votes. It's 100% votes. And if you even respect Elon this much, and Rob is actually on Elon's page, his last, go to Elon Musk's last, let's say 50 tweets. 40 of them are this. In the USA, you don't need government issued ID to vote, and you can mail in your ballot.

Starting point is 01:35:43 Do you know what that is called? Cheating. That's why all these people are genetically. Oh, by the way, that's so funny you're saying that. This data, pull this one up, zoom in on this one. This is very important. What does this, what is that? Zoom out a little bit.

Starting point is 01:35:55 In the first time in the history of America, never has this happened. This is the first time we have more illegal immigrants coming in in a month than actually giving birth to children. Look at that. Wait, what? That's what that is.

Starting point is 01:36:09 This is the red is illegal immigrants coming in. The blue is number of kids born in US on a daily basis. Oh my God. We have more illegal immigrants coming in a single day, single month than kids being born. In America. We've never had 225,000 people coming a month, ever. The three records of the previous biggest months ever were all broken under Biden. Last month, December 227,000 in the first 27 days.

Starting point is 01:36:33 28 days. Yeah, and by the way, outside of this, it's very important when you think about voting, go to my last tweet. I think it's a second to the last tweet. So yesterday, we're creating a video on illegal immigration. We're just going to come up probably next week. Yeah, zoom in on this one. Look at this here.

Starting point is 01:36:49 16 states in America don't require any photo ID to vote. How did that happen? That's just a law. 22 states require photo ID to vote. OK. That tells you how many people have come here. 8.476 million illegal immigrant encounters. Since 2021, more than last previous three terms combined.

Starting point is 01:37:08 I said, at this pace, America will be Venezuelan three terms. If something doesn't happen to America, by the way, just a question. Can we Google something together, Rob? Can you Google something with me here? Google, and Tom, please let the audience enjoy without giving the answer. We know you know these because we're waiting for this to go through.

Starting point is 01:37:29 No, 16. Seriously. Which ported, the most people ever. Matter of fact, if you want to make it even easier, type in Google Deporter in Chief. Can I guess? Wait, do you know the answer to the question or not? I think I know who it is. I think it's Obama. It's Obama.

Starting point is 01:37:58 Really? The Deporter in Chief, no president on record, has ever deported more people. What a racist. Then Barack Obama. Racist. Well, Biden's making up for it on his term right now. Is that how you, how's your VP?

Starting point is 01:38:12 But let me help you out here. What a racist. Reversal. That's racist. And what is gonna be great is this, you know how perfect this is for Guinein, Donald J. Trump. He's gonna say, look, they call Barack Obama, he should say this because I know they listen to the podcast.

Starting point is 01:38:27 Come on. Chaos. Chaos yesterday 10, 20 times chaos, chaos, chaos, chaos. All you have to say is we all know the goat. Everybody talks about the goat. The goat of deporting illegal immigrants in the history of America's Barack Obama. Okay. Do you know who call them the deportor and chief? You can go to ABC news. This is not like Fox News type of stuff. Illegal immigrants in the history of America's Barack Obama, okay? Do you know who called them the Deporter in Chief? You can go to ABC news. This is not like Fox News type of stuff by the way everybody left right center everybody Okay, look at ABC news. Obama has deported more people than any other president. This is not ABC news. Deporter in chief Okay, the Porter in chief, right? Ultron passes a say is come and say, look, somebody's who's fairly competitive.

Starting point is 01:39:11 I'm going after the goat. And who's that, Mr. Trump? I should say that. I know, yeah. He said, you guys know I'm pretty competitive, but there is a goat I'm chasing. Who's that, Mr. Trump? There's a goat I'm chasing and that goat is the goat of deporting illegal immigrants. Wow. Who's that, Mr. Trump? There's a goat I'm chasing and that goat is the goat of deporting illegal immigrants. Why? Who's that? Barack Obama deported more people

Starting point is 01:39:31 than anybody else. Matter of fact, go Google the Porter in chief. Tell that to the American people and you'll see who'll come out. Kind of Barack Obama. So when I do become president and I do deport the people, don't get upset at me. I'm following the footsteps of a Democrat that you love and admire so much because he's so gentle and awesome and welcoming and caring and all this stuff. He's the goat of deporting. I'm going after him. Right.

Starting point is 01:39:59 And then records are meant to be broken. You know, I know that they listen. I don't know if you want because I watched the Trump thing. He took a jab at his shoes too. He did a jab at his boots. I don't know if you saw it last time. Adam, where you get that? Trump yesterday mentioned the boots. He did do the boots thing. Well, it just goes to show the media that will do their spin job because we always talk about the difference between personality versus policy. Obama's policy deported more than any president of all time,

Starting point is 01:40:27 but it was gangster. On the surface, Trump's personality was the one that was deporting all the people. I think at this point in our country, you don't have to be a right wing cook to realize, you know that wall idea we talked about? Yeah. Canada might wanna think into that.

Starting point is 01:40:43 So much so that you know, it's kind of a key, help and build that wall. Joe Biden. Yeah. So, you know, walls aren't racist, especially when there's people flooding into your country will build a big, beautiful door. I agree in legal immigration, but at this point with the people storming the border, we're going to have to do something with this. Well, the only thing that they care about storming is the capital. They don't care about the border. They just care about a building that I said nobody. I love you.

Starting point is 01:41:14 But here's my question to you, Adam. What is, I mean, we're almost done. It's four years. It's, the damage has been done. That's, that should be the thing for Donald Trump. It's, but where, where, where, where is the left, the voters, the people, where is the outrage when you see numbers, because those charts aren't secret. He didn't, he didn't dive deep into some rabbit hole. That is

Starting point is 01:41:35 all over the internet. We're going to have over, let's say, 16 to 18 by the time Biden's done, Trump said 18, where are the loud voices of the Democrat voters going? I know what you're saying, Adam. It's like, oh, they're starting to talk. Should it you be screaming on the top of rooftops? Because now the mayor of New York is saying, guys, we're going to get to a point where you're going to have to take them into your house. What are we talking about?

Starting point is 01:42:03 Are you freaking bonnet? So that's my thing to all the Democrats out there. All you shit talking Trump people, where are you at? Where are you? If it was Trump right now, forget it. It'd be over. But you guys just sitting on your hands with your mouth shut because you can't admit that this guy was a shit and they don't want anybody to come in here unless they came in here. All right, let's go to next story. Let's go and talk about Fauci. Fauci flip-flop during the first seven-hour session

Starting point is 01:42:30 of grilling before house, okay? So let's see what Fauci did here to nine. Nine or? Okay, here we go. During the congressional hearing, Dr. Anthony Fauci vaded more than 100 questions about COVID-LABLY theory and his ties to Wuhan with House Republican accusing them of plain semantics

Starting point is 01:42:51 to avoid admitting funding of dangerous research in China that might have sparked the pandemic. Fauci acknowledged signing off on millions of dollars and grants without reviewing proposals, exposing a lack of oversight in its agency. Fauci commissioned a paper to disprove the lab leak theory and cited it during a White House briefing

Starting point is 01:43:11 without disclosing his involvement. He also backtracked on previous claims that the US did not fund gain-off function research in Wuhan and he couldn't confirm the existence of oversight protocols for lab receiving federal funds and There's more to that but I'll pause right here Vinny thoughts. Well, first of all let's let's he's a bureaucrat Right, he puts the rat in bureaucrat. I think he's a despicable person if you've read RFK's book

Starting point is 01:43:39 The real doctor Fauci. Well, it'll blow your mind if you have time even on audio book listen to it It'll change your mind. I know people in California that would have those, or those things called Robbie, on the lawn, where it's just like him, that's the left, that was the left's savior. But if you think about it, this hearing wasn't televised, it's behind closed doors, the word that you read,

Starting point is 01:43:59 he evaded 100 questions. You don't get to evade. When it comes to millions of people's lives, you have to answer, but as we all know, he is untouchable. Okay, zero accountability. You talked about this. What was this year's Year of Chaos? Last year was what?

Starting point is 01:44:16 Your investigation. And what, Patrick, it went from year investigation to zero convictions. The investigate, investigate, investigate, no convictions, no wonder why we're turning into the year of chaos because people are furious. Well, this freaking rat, he walks around with security that's deeper than the president's.

Starting point is 01:44:34 But I saw him walking on that interview for CBS or whatever. There's guys with microphones, there's people on the roof protecting him because we know what Fauci is. We know what the hell what he did. And yeah, you nailed it. You nailed it. Mother, the social distancing, I'm pretty sure everybody out there remembers,

Starting point is 01:44:51 do you know how I knew it was complete BS when I walked into any airport? Yeah. Every airport you walked into, every one foot was a six foot social distancing, social distancing, social, but we got on the plane. Everybody was just pushed up on each other's faces.

Starting point is 01:45:06 I'm like, what does social distancing have to do with anything? It's all bullshit, and now the fact that he has to be protected behind closed doors, I think it's bullshit. People like that, their feet have to be held to the fire. Seriously, no accountability. Zero. When there is, you know, their talk about retribution, and you know, massive success is the same as retribution,

Starting point is 01:45:28 there's got to be an element of accountability. That's the only thing I'm asking. Oh, we're going to get it. Yeah, I think Trump has to. There's a part of me that thinks he will or he won't because, you know, he also brags about how successful the operation of war speed was. I don't know if he's going to go after Fauci.

Starting point is 01:45:46 Play this clip. This is what Rand Paul said, what happened behind closed door testimony. Go for it. One thing that's consistent about Anthony Fauci is what he says in private is largely true. What he says in public is largely alive. When asked about the mass by a fellow co-worker, Sylvia Burwell, he told the truth. He said the mass to work becausewell. He told her the truth. He said the masks don't work. Because the pores are bigger than the virus.

Starting point is 01:46:06 The wrong studies reveal that about the influenza. But in a public, he wears three masks. In private, he tells his colleagues, you don't really need to wear one. It's the same with immunity. It's the same with the vaccines. And it's really the same with gain of function. In private, he said, yes, we're suspicious

Starting point is 01:46:21 that the virus was manipulated, looks manipulated, and we know they're doing gain of function in Wuhan. He describes it. That's in a private email in public. To this day, he still denies that they funded any gain of research, gain of function research in Wuhan. It's all an entire line.

Starting point is 01:46:36 Oh, that's... And you nailed it. I'm not disagreeing, but I'm kind of... I'm on the fence where I'm kind of upset. I'm like, why do we have to wait for a Trump or whatever? These guys are in Congress. I don't care who runs the house. It makes me more and more by the day

Starting point is 01:46:52 and Brandon says this a lot. Guys, he says, it's a unaparty. There's no such thing as Democrat. There's no such thing as Republican. They're on the same team because the facts are the facts. I don't get what you're saying. There's a part of that that I agree with you because yesterday we're having lunch and Tom

Starting point is 01:47:06 told us what happened with Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. Do you know how the world found out about Monica Lewinsky where everybody realized it's true? Was it her friend told her to save the dress that had the puff on it? Okay, and then what happened with the dress? And the stain.

Starting point is 01:47:22 Ken Star went to the White House, took blood from Bill Clinton and that matched the stain on the dress. How did he get the blood from Tom? He managed to get a federal subpoena and on August 3rd, they went in and they just took blood. August 3rd of what? The sort of in 1996 or something. And then on August 19th is when Bill Clinton went on TV and did the...

Starting point is 01:47:49 Do the accent please Tom? What do you say? Come on! He went on TV that night. He said, When a woman solely and individually liable, he spoke to American people. I did have an inappropriate relationship with Mr. Lonsky. He should have just been like, look.

Starting point is 01:48:05 Because on August 3rd, they took the blood. But you know, four days later, they had the DNA results. It matched the dress. And Ken Star was going to leak it. There's all kinds of things that were going on. The late Ken Star. And Clinton knew it.

Starting point is 01:48:18 And Clinton knew he was cornered. And that's when Clinton spoke good. Well, you know why I'm bringing this up? Why am I bringing this up? Because Fauci investigation, if they want to, they can find out. You know, you got the information with who's cocaine and what's at the White House.

Starting point is 01:48:33 If you really wanted to FBI, you could find out. Yesterday, do you have the clip on how Hunter Biden shows up to court? And this looks like straight up out of a movie. Like seriously, this looks straight up out of a mob movie and it's a documentary about, you know, Gadi or one of the bosses from the past. Watch this, go on and play this.

Starting point is 01:48:52 For five minutes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Excuse me, Hunter, apparently you're afraid of my words. Oh, you're good. That's Hunter, right? Just walk down. Untouchable. Untouchable. I like to reclaim my time, Mr. Chairman

Starting point is 01:49:11 Wow, that's too bad Did you just walk out? Oh, he's a and by the way, that's like the mobs Biggest mob boss a son just says you can't do nothing to me because I'm untouchable He's going to be untouchable. He's going to be pardoned at the 11th hour. By the way, there was 4K cameras. They're shooting a document. I'm not joking.

Starting point is 01:49:32 They're shooting a documentary of him. There was a camera crew with him. This is all stage and it's all, it's all, you know, how disrespectful that is. Nobody stops him. It's all a show, dude. It's all show. Play the clip of him with the Fox News

Starting point is 01:49:43 the 7th second one that you just said. I have a bad, I sent Rob a really good one from behind. I do that one after Rob. Two please. I'll answer your question if you be quiet and let me make a statement. Okay, crack you normally so much, Mr. Robot. What did you say? What kind of crack do you normally smoke?

Starting point is 01:49:58 I said once again, I said, what kind of crack do you normally smoke? I said once again, I said, what kind of crack do you normally smoke? I said once again, I said, what kind of crack do you normally smoke? I said once again, I said, what kind of crack do you normally smoke? I said once again, I said, what kind of crack do you normally smoke? I said once again, I said, what kind of crack do you normally smoke? I said once again, I said once again, I said, what kind of crack do you normally smoke? I said once again, I said, what kind of crack do you normally smoke? I said once again, I said once again, I said, what kind of crack do you normally smoke? I said once again, I said once again, I said once again, I said, what kind of crack do you I said once again, I said looking to think about what we're at in society right now. This is an actual legitimate question.

Starting point is 01:50:08 Well, the one that I said. What's your crack preference, Hustler? I like the two. There's a different angle. Look at this angle. Look at this. This is one of those we can't see. I don't know why this.

Starting point is 01:50:17 Rob, let's check to see what's going on with this so we can fix it for next time. You want me to play it? Yeah. I got it. Oh, is this one what you're asking? He asked you a response to it. Well, listen, this is, this is, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, He looks, he looks like... You're like shooting cocaine or smoking crap.

Starting point is 01:50:52 Well, Hunter, look at him like... Does your face... I like... Does your face, itch, sir. So I think going to your point is it takes somebody with... With brass balls, like... Hand-star, hand-star. Incredibility. Incredibility took...

Starting point is 01:51:03 Because the system's not doing it. It takes one person to just give us that little nugget, that little dude. Can you imagine what a great device from a friend like Monica do not wash that dress. You save it. Save that dress because you never know. You don't need to trip.

Starting point is 01:51:19 Yeah, you know how many times Monica Lucy's probably gonna go on and she's like, I'm gonna wear this. Yeah, there's stuff on that one. Yeah, you don't wanna wear that. Say that one for the future. But think about where we're at in society right now that actual legitimate press is asking the president's son city.

Starting point is 01:51:33 What's your preference on when it comes to crack? Yeah, I like the kind that comes with some extra prostitutes and some blow on the side. But it's a laughing stock and it should be. It's unbelievable that that is the president of the United States son is shooting a documentary and he's a crack head, but guess what? The arrogance of walking around like, yo, what are you going to do? Nobody could do anything to him just like they can't do anything to Bill Klan, just

Starting point is 01:52:00 like they can't do anything to Dr. Fauci. They're on the same team and they protect each other and you can't do anything to Dr. Fauci. They're on the same team and they protect each other and you can't do shit about it. And remember, Hunter Biden is the smartest man that Joe Biden has ever met. Yeah, those are Joe Biden's most cool. His crackhead son is the smartest man he's ever met. Well, if you can do crack and then also do a billion dollar business deals,

Starting point is 01:52:18 look at Elon out there, he's doing some drugs, which is man of the world. That's a level to the drugs like we talked about last night allegedly You know that Elon's party time out come out you can't even put Elon's allegedly shit took all the footage of him. I'm smoking. I'm not gonna be saying some great people tend to do drugs sometimes I don't know. There's different levels. If you show me proof. I believe it But guess what hunter just go on X and put Hunter crack. There's videos of him and bath clubs

Starting point is 01:52:47 and he's a disgusting human being. Believe it. One man. But I will say one thing. Look at it, look at it. Look at the president. The smartest man he knows. Look at that guy.

Starting point is 01:52:56 Smart enough to record himself doing crack and being with girls that look like they're under age. He's a scumbag. He should be not seen in public. Yeah, he's making documentaries and he's in the middle of it. I want to go play football. So I don't know what you're talking about. Look at those teeth right there. That's a second set, by the way. Wow. He probably smoked a couple of them. He smoked Parmesan cheese. He said on the carpet. Yeah. So let's do. Okay. Obviously, the studio last story here. Rob, see if you can pull up the feud between

Starting point is 01:53:25 Jason Whitlock and Steven Aisman. Why don't you, you have the Whitlock clip all the way at the top. So why don't you play the Whitlock clip first? Some have it. Okay, so obviously we know Cat Williams you know, came out and he called out everybody and it became the most viewed podcast of the last,

Starting point is 01:53:43 I wanna say 24 months. That's been the most viewed podcast of the last, I want to say 24 months. That's been the most viewed 40 plus million views, garnered over half a million subscribers to Club Che, A-K-A Shannon Sharp. And, you know, whatever you want to say about Shannon Sharp, I thought he did a great job with the interview. Sometimes the gift of an interview is to ask the question, be quiet, let the guy answer the question, and then let the market decide, credibility, truth, not right, you do that part.

Starting point is 01:54:09 That's what you know, this is not true. He said this, then hold cat Williams accountable. I thought it was a great interview, but here's Jason Whitlock, inspired by cat Williams. Go for it. Steven A Smith is the Kevin Hart of the sports meeting. Oh, shoot, there's music. Is a plan. What's gonna happen with the music? Turn out to not the music stuff. Oh, shoot, there's music. Is a plan.

Starting point is 01:54:25 What's gonna happen with the music? They're not the music stuff. Oh my God, you have to put it. So he's comparing Stephen A. Smith to Cat Williams. I'm sorry, to Kevin Hart that he's a plant and they gave him money and the fact that he averaged one and a half points a game and one game. How do you average one and a half points a game

Starting point is 01:54:43 if you only played one game and your knees, all this other stuff, snap. And anyways, this is Stephen A responding to him. And by the way, Stephen A, I've never heard him talk about Jason Whitlock. I've heard him. I've not heard him. And I've listened to Jason to Stephen A for a long time.

Starting point is 01:55:00 And I've never heard him talk about Whitlock, but go ahead and play this clip. Did you tell them that once the same article in Dead Spin came out? No, this is not a problem. This is not it. There's one where he says, I'm gonna call my priest. And he called his pastor and said, hey, don't look at me this week because I'm gonna do something that you've never seen. Yeah, he just flat out called him out is what he did. So, is this the one going to play? Go ahead, Rob. Oh, no more music.

Starting point is 01:55:31 I said that name. Sounds like one music. I'm not a nutted. I normally don't do that. But it's necessary to do that. No, that's some music. You can't make it. That's a LL cool J right there.

Starting point is 01:55:43 No, no, that's not a... That's not... Oh, that not a, that's not a, that's not a, that's not a, that's not a, anyway. So he, go ahead and tell the story. What happened? What has he even, he said, Smith say, just said, like, like, listen, you're going to make a video like that. He's like, I called my friends. I told my colleagues, he goes, and I told the people that ESPN, shout out to what he did

Starting point is 01:56:01 here. This is actually pretty great. Yeah. This is, I work with John ES SPN But this is my show and I have carte blanche to do whatever I want on my podcast I own my podcast. I own my podcast. He goes I called my friends. I called my family I called my colleagues and he goes I told my pastor and I told them listen You're about to see a side of me that you've never seen so just respect it I got to go in.

Starting point is 01:56:25 And then after that, I'm done. I'm not, I, dude, I gained so much more. I always respected him, but I actually didn't see him go in. Did you see the, did you see? I don't think he has done it yet. You know how they say it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:56:40 He's not asking for enough. That's zero. I don't need your permission. I don't need forgiveness. I'm going scorched earth on this dude. I'm going in. I don't need your permission. I don't need forgiveness. I'm going scorched earth on this dude. I'm going in. I can't wait to see what it is. Rob, I just sent you to clip.

Starting point is 01:56:50 Rob, I just sent you a clip to play. With no music. Where it, this was the main one that went viral if you went up. Did you get it or no, that I not send it to. Maybe I send it to myself. Hasn't come through yet. I probably texted to myself.

Starting point is 01:57:02 But look, in a situation like this, okay, there's a couple a couple things you need to know we're not in this world, right? Meaning we're not in the sports world where we know the the history the politics the track record who got a contract Who took someone's job with lock used to be with who then you have a showback in a days with ESPN or Where was yet he was an ESPN guy with Keith Obram in and all those guys right? He's kind of like from that era. And in all of a sudden, there was a fallen out and they said certain things about him, but play this clip here from Stephen A.

Starting point is 01:57:31 If it plays, okay, there you go, fantastic. Here we go. And please do not allow this to be a reflection on my character because this is not how I act every day. But I mean it from my soul when I say, this is the worst human being I've ever known. Wow. Damn.

Starting point is 01:57:52 I don't know of another human being worse than Jason will like. Wow. He is a piece of shit. Woo. Wow. He's the dude that's gonna have a funeral and ain't gonna be no Paul Berris

Starting point is 01:58:06 Might be two people to show up damn. He's that dude. Wow. He is the absolute worst Any lies Any incriminates any tries to set people up to fail to big up himself because he can't do it on his own He had a television show. He failed. He's had opportunities one time after another. He doesn't measure up. And now he's coming out the big dog. And let me tell you something right now, I am the big dog.

Starting point is 01:58:34 I ain't the only one. I ain't the only one. Displenty. Skip Baylor's apologies to him too for bringing up Jason Whitlock's name in the same sentence as him, but we all know what time it is. Everyone knows. I think in this space, he's the number. All the exact words. They know what a piece of shit he is. Wow. And it begged me not to do this, but even my pastor, A. Arbarnard said, I'm not happy about it. But every now and then we got to do what we got to do.

Starting point is 01:59:09 The Lord promised you. And the Lord says, the Green Light from the Lord. I won't do this again. I promise you. I know you cringed in. You didn't want me to do this. I'm sorry, sis. It was necessary. He's a sorry fat piece of shit.

Starting point is 01:59:27 A no other worst order. There's your clip right there. Sorry, fat piece of shit, Rob. There it is. Oh my God. That's the title. That's the title right there. Oh my God.

Starting point is 01:59:40 And I want to make sure everybody knows that. He said Mother, everybody bleeps it out. And I said to Dan sure everybody knows that. He said Mother Ephraim, but they believed it all. And I said to Isaiah Thomas, and I said to Dan Leopardot. If you care anything about our friendship, don't ever call me about him. Oh my God. Again, I'm a very forgiving person. Not with him.

Starting point is 02:00:05 Wow. I don't care what beef I had. I don't care how many of you out there that hate me, whatever former athletes, all this, so, man, please, I'm sorry. Because I certainly don't hate y'all. We might have our differences from time to time, but ain't never that.

Starting point is 02:00:21 This is the exception. Wow. I hate this bastard. Not even Paul would have lived. By the way, everything was like worst. It's going to human be. We caught it. You can pause it at this point. It's human being. Yeah, but I love how he goes back.

Starting point is 02:00:40 He goes back to like, and I caught it with his arm. But you a fat piece of shit. But I talk to my sister. By the way, have you ever heard him talk like this? Never. Never. Never. Never.

Starting point is 02:00:53 Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never.

Starting point is 02:01:01 Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. But here's my thought. A, it has to be really, really bad for him to do this because as a Christian and you know this and Tom, I know you know this. I could, I've lost my temper. I can't even count probably going to lose it today. Who knows.

Starting point is 02:01:14 But to, to, to, to sit, to all that you're going to sin. It is. We know that you're going to do it. And like, I think, like, listen, I feel him. Trust me. I would probably have done worse. But as a Christian, you call on your pastor. This isn't a good look for him though. I mean, for, for, for Steven A. Trust me, I would probably would have done worse. But as a Christian, you call on your pastor, this isn't a good look for him though.

Starting point is 02:01:26 I mean, for Steven A. Smith, because the eyeballs are gonna be there obviously. But if you're gonna be this Christian guy, and you know he is, and you, if you call on your pastor, and even your pastor goes, hey, go for it. What are we talking about? You should be like that.

Starting point is 02:01:41 No, no, I'm not having humility to, by the way. To me, I don't give two shits about his religion. You can be Christian, the pastor, the whole time. I don't like that. No, no, I have a humility to me. I don't give two shits about his religion. He can be Christian, the pastor, do his buzzup. I don't care. Hold on, the bigger personal. The bigger person, and he's going right after the directly. But hold on, the fact that he called his pastor and his pastor is like, yeah, you do it, Doc.

Starting point is 02:01:55 I don't care. Here's my question. Here's my question. Do what you got to do, Steve and A. To all of you, do you think real talk with this hate, if he sees him in public, does he fight him? That's who I am. These are two 55 year old men.

Starting point is 02:02:08 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Jason went like so fatty, probably can't get out of the house. But that's how I'm saying what I'm saying is, I don't give a shit about none of that. If I have this much hate to another dude, when I see you in public, it's on because these are just words. This is just any. You want to step outside, bro? Adam, you're going to get out of here.

Starting point is 02:02:27 It's not worth getting back. But you want to get through. It ain't worth it. Back to your street dirty. Adam, I love you. But you know what I'm saying, though? Do you think they're going to fight? No.

Starting point is 02:02:35 No, you think about with luck. I'm not a fan of him. From what situation that we dealt with here, I lost all respect from. And when you're supposed to be fearless, but all I'm seeing from the guy is fear. I don't respect them. I don't respect from and when you're supposed to be fearless, but all I'm seeing from the guy is fear. I don't respect them. I don't respect them. Man, he was walking around the park.

Starting point is 02:02:51 Remember, he was walking around the parking lot. He was talking to somebody on the phone. All of a sudden, he's trying to cross Dixie highway. He couldn't do it. He's something like an Italy, an alien trying to cross the border out there. Completely confused. And he just finally goes over some other parking lot and calls an Uber or something. I'm like, what is with this guy?

Starting point is 02:03:07 He is so lost. He's trying to make a point. He's trying to, I'm talking about Whitlock, trying to make a point on his own podcast, trying to say this, but in the middle of it, you seem like he's got this confused man that's full of angst that's picking on people. It's like, I don't get him.

Starting point is 02:03:21 Yeah, there's a lot of F words you can use for Jason Whitlock, fearless eight, one of them. I don't get him. Yeah, there's a lot of F words you can use for Jason Whitlock, fearless eight one of them. I don't know fat, fluffy, fake, you know, according to Stephen A Smith, he's an FN POS. We all get it. Fearless ain't the word though. Sorry Jason. What do you think? I don't know.

Starting point is 02:03:38 I'm going to have no comments on this one. What the hell did he not show everybody said what they said about him? No, listen, my experience with him, I was confused because if somebody's a gamer and the whole situation was we were gonna have a podcast here And we already said our thoughts on that. I don't want to revisit that But in a situation like this, you know where I think Whitlock was trying to have his viral cat Williams moment, but nobody cared That is a viral cat Williams moment, but nobody cared. Meaning he thought he's cat Williams. And the market said, bro, you're not cat Williams, bro. You're not cat Williams.

Starting point is 02:04:16 There's cat Williams, then you're not at the cat Williams category. No, maybe he thinks he is. Maybe he thinks he is. Maybe he's going to leak other things. Maybe he's gonna leak other things. Maybe he's gonna bring up other stories. Great. But, you know, the inspiration of him wanting to be the modern day cat Williams of the sports radio.

Starting point is 02:04:35 Not in it fell. However, in his credit, he did get – Die Balls. – Stephen A to respond to him. – 100, 1000 times. – And, you know, good for you if you're doing that. But it wasn't the right kind of respond you want to get. So anyways, Rob, have we have, do we have any big stories that we haven't covered because I know it's the weekend. If we got another one, we want to do, we can do it. If not, I got to go upstairs.

Starting point is 02:04:55 I think we're good. Gang. Do we have one tomorrow or no podcast? Yeah, we do. With, we mentioned John Stewart earlier, we have the Egyptian John Stewart tomorrow. Basem, you said, Oh, Basem, you said you're tomorrow. Fantastic. Okay. That should be, that should be interesting. So gang tomorrow will do podcasts. We'll see you guys there. Meanwhile, remember, there's an election going on. The most important one, Adam, Tom and Vinnie, Meneck,

Starting point is 02:05:19 Leneck, me guys, please vote with your Meneck. I want both for Vinnie. I want John has enough money. No, Tom doesn't need the money. Tom doesn't need a suit. I have two suits. I have three vests. I need your support.

Starting point is 02:05:33 God bless everybody. This is it. Take care. Yeah, whatever. Adam. you

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