PBD Podcast - Pete Hegseth: Trump Deliberations, De Niro Meltdown & Candace Owens Porn Ban | PBD Podcast | Ep 416

Episode Date: May 30, 2024

Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, Tom Ellsworth, and Vincent Oshana are joined by "FOX & Friends Weekend" host Pete Hegseth! Peter Hegseth is an American television host and author. Hegs...eth is an Army National Guard officer and former executive director of political advocacy groups Vets For Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America. Purchase Pete's new book "The War on Warriors": https://amzn.to/3X0O1pV Follow Pete on X: https://bit.ly/4eeshxl Follow Pete on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3KrfRnK Purchase tickets to The Vault Conference 2024 September 4th - 7th: https://bit.ly/3X1JBzm00:00 - Show intro Get tickets to "PBD Live: Chris Cuomo vs Dave Smith": Friday, May 31st @ 6PM: https://bit.ly/3K2kpB0 Join "The Minnect League Championship" to win a night of dinner & cigars with Patrick Bet-David: https://bit.ly/4aMAar8 Connect one-on-one with the right expert for you on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3MC9IXE Connect with Patrick Bet-David on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3OoiGIC Connect with Bryan Callen on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3wMqC10 Connect with Adam Sosnick on Minnect: https://bit.ly/42mnnc4 Connect with Vincent Oshana on Minnect: https://bit.ly/47TFCXq Connect with Rob Garguilo on Minnect: https://bit.ly/426IG0R Purchase Patrick's new book "Choose Your Enemies Wisely": https://bit.ly/41bTtGD Register to win a Valuetainment Boss Set (valued at over $350): https://bit.ly/41PrSLW Get best-in-class business advice with Bet-David Consulting: https://bit.ly/40oUafz Visit VT.com for the latest news and insights from the world of politics, business and entertainment: https://bit.ly/472R3Mz Visit Valuetainment University for the best courses online for entrepreneurs: https://bit.ly/47gKVA0 Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! Get PBD's Intro Song "Sweet Victory" by R-Mean: https://bit.ly/3T6HPdY SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @vtsoscast @ValuetainmentComedy @bizdocpodcast @theunusualsuspectspodcast Want to be clear on your next 5 business moves? https://bit.ly/3Qzrj3m Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so close, like it tastes sweet victory I know this life meant for me Yeah, why would you bet on Goliath when we got bet David? Value came in, giving values contagious This world are entrepreneurs, we get no value to haters I ain't running homie, look what I've become I'm the one
Starting point is 00:00:23 Six is Hollywood for Ugly P.F. I think it's seven and a half, but here's what I've become. I'm the one. I'm the one. The politics is Hollywood for ugly people. I think it's seven and a half. But here's what I will tell you. Crazy liberal barbless. Tom, Tom, were you guys tuning in today? Tom is complimenting Hillary Clinton, which is a very weird way to start a podcast, but it is what it is. We're having a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:00:37 We're about to make a massive, massive announcement about the vault conference keynote speaker when it's announced you're going to lose your mind and not only that if SLS sold out seven weeks before the event the vault's about to sell out when we make this announcement. So hang tight, 10,000 people want to run Palm Beach Convention Center. I'm going to make the introduction, we'll talk about the stories, then I'm going to come back and tell you who the speaker is and then we can start the podcast. So having said that today, he may be, I mean listen, there's a lot of ways to introduce him.
Starting point is 00:01:09 He's a, of course, a husband, a father, a patriot, a Christian, a co-host of Fox and Friends, America's number one cable morning show, and he has multiple Fox Nation documentaries, graduate from both Princeton and Harvard, which is – we have to address that. It's an issue nowadays, but maybe he's got a different angle on it. He is the New York Times bestselling author of The Arena, Modern Warriors, American Crusade, and Battle for the American Mind. He's an Army vet of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Guantanamo Bay, has earned two Bronze Stars
Starting point is 00:01:43 and a Combat Inf man's badge. He's got this book out here right now that we have, we'll put the link below as well, The War for Warriors, The War for Warriors. But I think the one thing that he has, the reputation that he has, based on what I just did, and I'm talking to other people, you can't say this about everybody, he may be the sexiest man on TV. I think that's what it is, right? He walked into the TV. I mean seriously's what it is, right? He walked into the TV.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I'm serious. He walked in, people passed out. We had people that didn't even know there was a lineup outside. She hit her face on the keyboard. I'm like, dude, relax. This man is married. He's got a family. He's a Christian. This is not the right behavior. So it's great to have Pete Hegson on the podcast today. It's great to be here. I'm a fan of you guys. I appreciate what you do. And I just want to note that you said that and Jesse waters was on your show just a few weeks Ago, so I'm gonna remind Jesse of that. Yeah, please. No, you have to tell him that very important
Starting point is 00:02:31 Of course, I think he's good-looking but I listen there's difference between good-looking and sexiest man That's a man telling you with four kids. So you normally will say you got to take that street credit Anyways, we got a lot of stories to go through one of the ones we'll definitely talk about as somebody who's gone to Harvard, let me give you some of these stories. Harvard to stay silent on issues that don't impact universities core function. I really want to know what he's got to say about that. Next story, despite surprise boost in consumer confidence, recession fears rose in May. Check this one out.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Real estate agents are fleeing the field. Is that good for home buyers? This is a WAPO, Washington Post story. A lot of guys are leaving the industry. Stephen A. Smith's fans are slamming Stephen A. Smith for his take on sports media landscape. We'll talk about that. Musk just raised $6 billion in his latest funding round for XAI. What's he doing with that?
Starting point is 00:03:26 By the way, ChadGBT4 is better than humans at financial forecasting new studies shows, which is wild. Blackstone CEO Tobac Trump cites economic concerns, economic concerns, which is why he's supporting as well as rise of anti-Semitism. Silicon Valley investors embraced Trump after years of leaning left out to beat Trump. RFK inching towards qualifying for the Trump-Biden debate. That's going to be interesting if it's three of them on stage. And if he's getting closer and closer, Vito Corleone came out campaigning for Joseph Biden. I saw that. I saw that.
Starting point is 00:04:01 In New York. I don't know if you saw that. Yeah, the gangster. Very interesting. Yeah, intimidating obviously. But he was there, De Niro's chaotic Biden campaign conference garners mockery on social media, disaster for Democrats. By the way, there's a horn in the background
Starting point is 00:04:15 every time he's speaking and he's just getting more and more upset. And a few people had choice words to say about him, right? We have to lose it, Rob. I don't know which clips we got. I know we'll go through them. Another story here about another Pete, Pete Buttigieg, can't explain why Biden has only built seven or eight EVs, even though these charging stations, they claim they were going to build 500,000. They're
Starting point is 00:04:38 499,993 short of hitting their goal. It's problematic. Michael Cohen is so ethical that he's now planning on running for Congress and he's got a new book coming out after testifying against Trump. Nikki Haley signs on IDF bomb during visit to Israel, finish them. The world's largest pension fund may be running dry. That has to do with China, by the way. Pope apologizes after being quoted using vulgar term about gay men and talk about ban on gay priests. By the way, I don't even know if I can say the words on here.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Can I or can I not? I think we should just refer to the word. We'll let them read it. But the way he says it, man, I mean in context, it is pretty funny. It's like a comedy. Have you seen this or no? It's very funny. I is pretty funny. It's like a comedy. Have you seen this or no? It's very funny. I've heard it.
Starting point is 00:05:27 It's like he's doing stand up. UFC star is planning on homeschooling his kids. You have to see why. Cardi B hits back at Candice Owens. Candice Owens wants to ban pornography. That was her suggestion. Cardi B had a problem with that. We got a couple clips to play here for you from Dwayne Wade and a few other reactions
Starting point is 00:05:43 we'll get to. But aside from that, let me get right into the announcement. So here's what we're doing. Vault Conference is a conference we do once a year. This is our fifth official Vault Conference. The first one we did was in Dallas. 450 people showed up. This one's going to be 10,000.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Last one we had 2,500 people at Diplomat, which we had Tom Brady at. Unbelievable event. Three days, three and a half days, 200 page manual, entrepreneurship, raising capital, PEs, VCs, executives, salespeople, consulting firms, 180 plus different industries. That was last year. And I told everybody last year, this year was going to be magical because we're doing it in Palm Beach Convention Center, AV is going to be magical. We've invested so much investments on backend for this event that's taking place in Palm
Starting point is 00:06:27 Beach. And we have been trying to get together, me and this other guy that you guys probably know. Finally, we agreed to do this. He agreed to do this. He's all over the world. He's got a message he wants to tell you guys being at the vault conference. Rob, if you got the clip ready, go ahead and play this clip.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Oh, man. Go ahead and play this clip. Get out of here, dude! Wayne the Rock Johnson here. Man, I am pumped. I got some big news to share with you guys. I cannot wait to join all of you guys down there at the vault conference in Palm Beach, September 4th through the 7th. I'm going to be sitting down with your host and my good buddy, Patrick Bet David. We're going gonna chop it all up from leadership, entrepreneurial spirit, business strategy. We're gonna chop up our journeys.
Starting point is 00:07:09 We're gonna chop up so much more, including all the various industries that we have been lucky and fortunate enough to build enterprise in. So I cannot wait, September 4th through the 7th, it's gonna be a historic conference. I cannot wait. I will see you down there, Palm Beach.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Back to work for me because the rent is always due. The most electrified man on earth will be at the vault conference three and a half days. And by the way, it's gonna be absolutely insanity. We had a conversation over the weekend about the fact that, hey, everybody's been saying, hey, can we one of these days do podcasts together? So the first time we're gonna do anything together we'll be at the event 90 minute conversations and some of you guys maybe get a chance to meet him picture who knows who knows what things there's gonna be a lot of
Starting point is 00:07:52 weird announcements will be making here's all I will tell you this is not the last year if you guys remember at the vault conference how many husband and wives attended it was it was a hundred of husband and wives some people brought their sons like they were coming as a family legacy planning. What do I do business partners? There's a couple people this year that are planning on bringing a hundred people their entire company executive team sales team So it's gonna be wild looking forward to it This is not an event to come by yourself But make sure you get yourself your spouse your business partner your team
Starting point is 00:08:22 Register to attend of all conference because I'm telling you right now, when this sells out and you call the consulting firm and they tell you we don't have any more tickets, you cannot be upset because we're not bringing The Rock back next year. We're only gonna do this one time at the Vault Conference and I hope you get to join us. Get registered, we'll see you guys there.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Having said that. We're gonna smell what The Rock has prepared. Yeah, can you smell what PBD is cooking? What he's telling me when we're talking privately, he says this is gonna be the sickest thing we've ever done together He says I'm so like he's so excited to attend the event It's gonna be on the body slammy on one of the tables. We're probably gonna do For sure you have to realize this guy is the highest paid actor 125 million or whatever the number was this guy's got a half a billion followers.
Starting point is 00:09:06 This is a guy that if he wanted to run, he's formidable. He could run if he wanted to. There's a lot of people that think about him running and he's kind of like a center, center right guy. Even the recently with Will King when they sat down and spoke, will you be voting for the same person? He said, no. He said, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:09:20 So it's a, he's going through his own set of evolution. I would say he's a billionaire. If not, they haven't announced yet he's soon to be. Lot of different things. And he went from $7. And the reason why I'm bringing him and another speaker that some people are gonna say, why are you bringing these guys?
Starting point is 00:09:33 I think everything right now, if you're building a business and you're building a company, you gotta get good at storytelling and marketing. So this was the clip. If you wanna play this clip, Rob, how long is this clip? 45 seconds. Yeah, you can play this clip before Rob, how long is this clip? 45 seconds. Yeah, you can play this clip before we get started. You made that endorsement 2020.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Are you happy with the state of America? Am I happy with the state of America right now? Well, that answer is no. Do I believe we're going to get better? I believe in that. I'm an optimistic guy and I believe we can get better. The endorsement that I made years ago with Biden was what I thought was the best decision for me at that time.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And I thought back then, when we talk about, hey, you know, I'm in this position where I have some influence and it's my job then, I felt like that then, it's my job now to exercise my influence and share with this. This is who I'm going to endorse. Am I going to do that again this year? That answers no. You use the right word for the rock. You said the evolution of rock because I remember in 2020 when we talked about the rock the video of him like where is he? Where is he? I mean he was getting a Christian Bale Batman vibes about Trump just to see him going to this part now. Unbelievable. I don't know what you're got planned up your sleeve. I can't even tell you what I know.
Starting point is 00:10:53 With Brady, Mike Tyson and everybody's favorite, Will Godara. Yeah. From the restaurant business. Wow. It's going to be awesome. It's going gonna be awesome. But today is about Pete Hexit. It's great to have you on. Great to be here. Let me go through the first story. I mean, again, we got a lot and we'll go through. So first story, Harvard to stay silent on issues that don't impact universities' core function, right?
Starting point is 00:11:18 Universities' core function. Okay, so when we hear a story like this with Harvard, for the longest time, many of us, when we think about Harvard, we think Harvard, we think Oxford, it's the pinnacle, right? Cream of the crop where you go to where you put that thing on the wall and you brag about it. This story is a CNN story. Harvard University announced it will no longer weigh in on public matters that don't impact the Ivy League school's core function following a working group's conclusion that Harvard
Starting point is 00:11:42 must defend the university's autonomy and academic freedom when threatened but should not issue statements on matters that do not directly affect the university's core function, the working group's report warned that the integrity and credibility of the institution are compromised when the university speaks officials on matters outside its institutional area of expertise. This decision comes after former President Claudine Gay's step down and controversy and plagiarism allegations arise. Thoughts on this story? Well, it says it affects the university's core function.
Starting point is 00:12:16 What is the core function of Harvard University at this point? Nobody really knows. It's a hedge fund with classrooms. 100% correct. You mentioned that I graduated from Harvard. It's a hedge fund with classrooms. 100% correct. You mentioned that I graduated from Harvard, it's true, but what you missed is that about four years ago, live on Fox and Friends, I brought my Harvard degree on set and I tore it open, pulled it out and wrote return to sender on it, crossed out Harvard
Starting point is 00:12:39 University and wrote critical theory university and I mailed it back to him. Are you kidding me? 100% live on the air. Holy is this clip up? It's out there somewhere because I refuse to be associated with that institution any longer because we can't be holding up the lunacy of places like that as the impromptu, as the height of excellence of what we want for our kids when it's poisoning the minds of and you know what the moment was that broke it for me? And there could have been any number of them. And this moment is the way they treated Jewish students,
Starting point is 00:13:11 which is- That's the one- There it is right there. Nice. It was the moment they announced, remember, Harvard University was founded to train ministers. That's what it was originally founded to do. When they announced their new chaplain
Starting point is 00:13:24 for the university was an atheist. I thought, you know what? You don't really know what your core function is here, do you? I'm done. I'm done being associated. And I think we have to. These universities are gone. This is a lie from Harvard. Of course, they'll weigh in on everything they think follows their progressive ideology. They just got caught when it came to Jewish students in Israel with extreme bias. Let me ask you this, like you know sometimes, what's the one movie? Untouchables, right? Like you can't do nothing to them, oh we're untouchable, or you know certain people read saint status, there's nothing you can do about them, they're saint status. How consequential could this be
Starting point is 00:14:00 to Harvard with the types of decisions they've made, obviously the last eight months, we're talking since October 7th, but also during COVID, the last four years when they said, yeah, you know what, even though your kids are not going to be staying on campus, you still have to pay the full price. While their money accounts getting bigger and bigger and bigger, how consequential could this be for Harvard? It could be. I hope it's massively consequential.
Starting point is 00:14:22 They've seen application numbers drop. So kids are families are deciding Okay, it isn't the pinnacle to try to go to Harvard I also think businesses and you know this better than I do they see the types of students They're getting law firms the type of lawyers they're getting and they're not getting Constitutional scholars they're getting activists and they said you're actually creating more problems inside my corporate culture in my business Then you are adding value to it because you decide to come in and spew your DEI nonsense to me And and your grievance matrix, so it takes a while. I think abandoning these institutions
Starting point is 00:14:59 Letting them become just woke cesspools is fine. They are what they are We just have to create our own institutions that actually have the right core function. Tom, what do you think? Rob, I'm going to send you this thing here because Ken Griffin, we all know who Ken Griffin is. I think he's a 20 or 40 billion dollar guy. He's got money. So if you guys are thinking about starting a GoFundMe, he's going to be okay. So this guy who, according to Forbes, just last April, we're talking a year ago He didn't give a million dollars to Harvard. He didn't give ten million dollars to Harvard He didn't give twenty million dollars to Harvard right if you can pull up the story This is how much money came Griffin billionaire gave to Harvard last year go lower. You'll see that things a third or fourth paragraph
Starting point is 00:15:39 Well, you see a number if you zoom in right there last one Griffin the founder and CEO Citadel has donated a general generosity to his alma mater since he graduated in 89, including a $300 million gift last April to the faculty of arts and sciences and a $100 million gift in 2014. Vinny, that's $450 on two donations. And he's saying, I'm out. I'm out. Tom, how consequential. As somebody that's from academia yourself, what do you think is going to happen here? Well, first of all, when I read this, I mean, this whole- I just want to pay the respect. Yeah, you have to move the castle.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Thank you very much. Basically, this announcement just reeks. This is PR stunt. When I finished reading this, all I could smell was horse shit, and I said, man, there's a pony in here somewhere. You just have to find it. And so here's what the pony is. The pony is they were embarrassed on Capitol Hill when Claudine Gay and the president of
Starting point is 00:16:32 MIT and the president of Penn all could not answer questions with a simple answer. Will you protect Jewish students that are being persecuted and feel physically insecure about safety? Will you do something about that? And they couldn't say yes they would do about it and they were embarrassed on Capitol Hill and then the changes made in leadership. Then, add insult to injury, they allowed protests to become encampments and then encampments to be allowed to negotiate with the school. First of all, you're breaking the law. Second of all, you're breaking university policy
Starting point is 00:17:08 and you're doing all this. And then the university's negotiated with them. Later, University of Alabama was like, get the hell out of here, your permit's over. You've had your protest, you've had your demonstration, freedom of speech, you've done your piece. Now go home, damn it, you know, it's done. And so what has happened here is Harvard was cornered and Harvard
Starting point is 00:17:26 had to do something. And so what are they doing? They went away navel-gazing and thinking and they came back and they said, okay, here's what we're gonna do. We're not gonna public, we're gonna announce publicly that we're not going to announce publicly an official university position. And that was the one that was in the press release and was in the words of the president's lips, which was, officially comment on the official position of the university. So they're stuck in a corner, PBD, and all they can do is make this little announcement that says, if it doesn't have to do with the core function of the university, which is
Starting point is 00:18:02 not education, I said it before, which is running a hedge fund of which less than 12% of the revenue per year is actually tuition. If it's not talking about the official mission and function of the university, we're not going to comment on these things. Well, I like to know when they not comment when another group comes and protests in the student square and says, we're not leaving unless you negotiate with us. And when it's's time to not comment I like to know what Harvard's going to do but they're really stuck this is and like most of academia stuck and by the way most of the ivy leagues started as seminaries by the way the ivy league most of them absolutely were seminaries and they were centers
Starting point is 00:18:42 of America of early americana what a shame to go from that to where you are today What a shame for that to be taking place I have a question for Pete because it's funny when when PBD did the intro and he's like you went to Harvard you literally rolled your eyes like I Didn't you might have been like proud about it because typically an alma mater the whole premise is that you have pride in where you went to school And there you are rolling your eyes the whole premise is that you have pride in where you went to school. There you are rolling your eyes. I think Harvard is number one, by the way, when it comes to endowments, $50 billion. You said that's a hedge fund that basically teaches classes. When you said
Starting point is 00:19:15 who is the number one client of a university, we're thinking, well, it's the kid, well, it's the parents. It's actually the donors, the mega donors, the Ken Griffins of the world, or the Bill Atmans of the world, who have all been disgusted what's going on out here. But the motto of Harvard is Veritas, the truth. So I want you to be a little truth teller here. What would it take for you to give money to Harvard again? Or possibly, if your kids got accepted to Harvard, would you be encouraging your kids to go to Harvard? What would you do? Absolutely not. Really?
Starting point is 00:19:47 Absolutely not. I've got a list, it's about five schools long, of schools that I, as a father, would be willing to spend my own money if they would like to attend. Are you comfortable sharing, though? Because a few of them. Well, Liberty University, College of the Ozarks,
Starting point is 00:20:00 it's down in Missouri. I love New St. Andrews College, it's in Idaho. That's a few of them. There's a, more. I've got it on my iPhone everywhere I go on different events people say well, what about this school? Have you looked at University of Florida? Maybe? Nope. Really University of Tennessee Nope, all the major state schools have the same undercurrent. See we talk about Harvard. We talk about Yale We talk about Princeton because they're the worst they just play it out front critical race theories everywhere If you go to Harvard's website every department is defines itself through the lens of critical race theory that's why I wrote
Starting point is 00:20:30 critical theory they're just open about it the pedagogy the philosophy of education these days has become is ubiquitous across all of higher ed I mean you know where the Marxist landed when they came over the book I wrote before this one was battle for the American mind about the K through 12 takeover the left-12 takeover, the left-wing takeover of K-12 education. It took them 100 years. And they did it in large part by seeding themselves in higher ed.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Where did they first land? The Marxists from the Frankfurt School? At Columbia University. What is Columbia University? What was it then? What is it today? The number one teacher's college in America. And what did they come with?
Starting point is 00:21:02 A theory called critical theory. Now Marxists usually use class as the dividing factor. Class didn't work in America because of capitalism. So what did they use instead? They used race, which is our Achilles heel. So the Teachers College proliferated that everywhere. So you want people to say, well my kids are safe in Alabama or Florida or Tennessee. Maybe, definitely the culture is better, but the philosophy is still the same. I mean you look at something like who here took social studies social studies. Yeah back in the day Totally made up some made-up subject
Starting point is 00:21:33 It's not a real subject made up by progressives because they wanted to get rid of literature and theology and philosophy And in history and politics as individual disciplines meant to seek truth. Veritas. Back to your, back to the, when what's on the crest of Harvard, the Old Testament, the New Testament, and the Testament to come, meaning Christ's return. That's what's on the shield. It was seeking actual truth. They've dissected all of that. So even schools that look more conservative in the South. Wait, wait, let me get this straight. What you just said, is that still on their crest? It is still on their crest.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Hold that up, Rob. No, no, but wait a minute. Do they even explain that like an orientation or no? Of course not. No, absolutely not. Wait, can you pull this up, Rob? Harvard crest? Can you pull this up?
Starting point is 00:22:15 So, pull up the Harvard crest on what he was explaining and actually go up. What does Harvard's crest mean? I want to know, did you guys know this? How many of you guys? I knew about Veritas, I didn't know about the Old Testament and New Testament. Look at the crest when you actually look at the shield. As they've moved on to, you know, go to images Rob, you'll see it. In the foreground, the three open... The three open books, so they don't even say what we know what it is are but that's exactly wow how do you go from that to so let me ask you if you have man you know so look at the three books that's what the three but there it is so here's
Starting point is 00:22:54 here's what's crazy so yesterday we're we're upgrading and doing all this stuff with our state planning Tom we're having these meetings we've have been having these meetings for the last couple years but in couple weeks ago I'm at an event where I'm listening to everybody talk about estate planning with their kids how they set it up you know G4 G5 this is how many the crest family the Walsh family the Reinsdorf family you kind of learning about all these guys how they do it can they not put in their constitution that whoever becomes the president of Harvard has to be somebody that's dedicated committed to these three things Wouldn't that just make sense?
Starting point is 00:23:28 So so the founding the who is the founder of Harvard Pete? Do you know who found it was named after John Harvard? I don't know who actually founded it, but it was 1670 years in 1916 36 by the Great and General Court of Massachusetts Bay Colony great name and named after John Harvard its first benefactor its first owner And what's what's John Harvard known for I couldn't tell you can you Harvard it no no I'm actually not curious Can you go in right now? Let's just see it here go below right now right there the history of Harvard University They're not gonna tell the case. So Harvard was an English zoom in here Yeah, period of clergyman in New England colonists
Starting point is 00:24:05 Who was born in New England? London 1607 died in Charleston, Massachusetts 1638 1627 his mother and stepfather sent him to manual college Cambridge where he graduated in 1631 Ernest Masters degree in 1635 1637 Harvard moved to Massachusetts Bay Colony manages Tuberculosis and died from consumption the following year before his death He left the college half half of his state, which was worth $1,700. It's a lot of money in 1600. No, it literally is. And his library of around 400 volumes. The school was officially named Harvard College in his honor in 1639. Wow! And you go this far from this? Are you kidding me? That is insane to me. You have to remember the risk they took. What year was this?
Starting point is 00:24:45 This is 60 years before 1776. So this is a young country emerging PBD. Where do you see 60 years? This is... No, he's saying from there to the 1700s. Officially, you know, 1636? That's 140 years. No.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah, a hundred and thirty years. Tom, don't worry about it. It's only a hundred years you miss. A hundred and forty years. It. 100. Tom, don't worry about it. It's only 100 years you miss. 140 years. It's a long time. 140 years later, they're taking a risk under the British shadow about what they're teaching and what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Because a lot of what they were teaching, what they were doing was the independence and the growth of America. Well, the elephant in the room here is he's a white Christian male, and that's in the 1600s, whatever it is sailing across the ocean blue Christopher Columbus vibes, founding the school, being the first benefactor fast forward 2024 DEI, Marxism run amok intersectionality, decolonialization, oppressor, oppress. It just shows like the guy that started the school wouldn't actually necessarily be even welcome in the school anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:46 He would tear up his own diploma. It ultimately becomes a rejection of God and a rejection of Western civilization. And once you reject God, then you open Pandora's box for anything to replace it. And that's how you lose your culture. You look, I mean, you know, this culture protection is really important and you have to be massively intentional about what your mission is, who you allow have to be massively intentional about what your mission is, who you allow to lead it, who you let in, who your employees are. And the minute it's just like anything, the minute you let DEI sort of creep in or any aspect
Starting point is 00:26:14 like that creep in, it takes over. And Harvard is the one of the worst examples. You're so right. By the way, a few years ago, one of the investors comes up to us and one of the guys we were meeting with this is the whole DI thing Where wasn't kind of big this like six years ago seven years ago? I don't what it wasn't even a thing you you would remember this no it wasn't like ESG DI Nobody was really talking about it and one of the guys says well Yeah, you know what we value when we make the investments, and we want to know what the DI scores I'm like tell us DI well the eyes diversity this I'm like we're probably the most DI company out there
Starting point is 00:26:44 So he's like php you're talking diversity. I'm like, we're probably the most DEI company out there. So he's like, yeah, I'm like, what are you talking about? We got Hispanics, we got blacks, we got whites, we got Asians, we got Muslims, we got, it doesn't matter. We all get along, whatever it is. You've been to the counter. Oh my God, it makes no sense. So then just to put it to him, I said, just so you know, whatever you think your DEI,
Starting point is 00:27:01 we're like true, for the fall, DEI without trying to be DEI. And we got the report and we sent it to them and some people are like, well, the PHP is a DEI company, you know. We did that because one of the investors wanted to know this, but here's the part. This guy right here, I saw this clip this morning, I showed it to Jen, and I don't know if you've heard
Starting point is 00:27:18 about this book that's come out, Every Parent and Teacher Schools, they're all reading and talking about it. The anxious generation, how the great rewiring of childhood is causing an epidemic of mental illness. Now, this guy is interviewing the author. He's asking him who raises better kids. And then he asks him a question at the end.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I love how honest the author is. Rob, if you can play this clip, go for it. Who makes her better parents? Left-wingers or right-wingers? Right-wingers, there's a lot of data on this. Can you move that mouse? Move the mouse, Rob. There's long been a slight gap
Starting point is 00:27:54 where conservatives are a little happier than liberals, and it's not clear why. Is that parenting, who knows? But what I found in doing the research for the book is that the gap between left and right became a chasm after 2012. So we'll get to the reasons why that is. But the bottom line is,
Starting point is 00:28:10 when kids are rooted in communities, they don't get washed out to see by the phone-based childhood by living by the virtual world. So over and over again, whether we look at left, right, whether we look at religion, what we find is that it's the secular kids and the liberal kids who got washed out to sea, got really depressed after 2012, and much less effect on the conservative and religious kids, because I think they're more rooted.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Now, if parenting is the most important thing, which you seem at many times to believe, why aren't you just a right-winger? Because right-wingers, according to you, get that right. Watch this. Well, it would be your community, right? Youwingers, according to you, get that right. Watch this. Well... It would be your community, right? You're talking about community. Embrace that community.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Well, no, because my community is the academic community. Almost everyone's on the left. And I know some conservatives. They're mostly not professors. And I do belong to a synagogue, although I'm an atheist. So yes, I sort of have you know, each of these worlds. But it's not that simple. You don't just say, well, my research shows that this produces better outcomes.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Therefore, I will change my values and go to be, you know, it doesn't work that way. By the way, who makes a better pan? I'm going to tell you something. I love his answer. I know we're kind of like sitting here saying if he would have said, yes, I went to Hillsdale, the credibility of statistics would have actually gone lower. The fact that this guy is a liberal, not willing to move, even after finding out the data that families being raised by conservative values raise better kids, but he's not willing to join the team gives it more argument.
Starting point is 00:29:37 So why would Harvard get away from these values and principles that build it into the number one institution in the world? So wild to me. And here's my thing, what's the end goal for them? They have this whole system set up, the DEI Peter, the schools, the this, they're brainwashing. What's their end game for doing this to the children? This is what we miss, is that it, I'm not kidding, when you do the research of what happened to academia and now K through 12, every person you meet who's a part of it is an atheist a communist or a Marxist well or so all of them all of
Starting point is 00:30:10 them we're not talking about like oh soft left progressives the people who seeded this sowed the seeds of what we see in our universities today were Marxists they were communists they were atheists they hated America they hated capitalism they were angry people, mostly, usually ugly people, and they hated the success and the freedom and actually the code of the West, much of which is a biblical code, which restricted all the things, they perverted things they wanted to be a part of, and so they wanted to assault it. And critical theory is the best example of it. Coming out of an academic institution
Starting point is 00:30:45 in Germany, landing here, and it proliferated because it gave a philosophy. Otherwise, Western Christian civilization was grounded in the Bible. It was rooted in Athens, in Jerusalem, in Latin. It had a history. It had coherence to an understanding of human nature. Well, critical theory gave the left, Marxists, communists, an avenue by which to produce an alternate theory, which is tear it all down. And once it got in, the institutions didn't fight back, and it took over. So, the end state of those people, they didn't know exactly what their plot a hundred years ago would look like, but they knew what it wouldn't look like. It wouldn't look like 1776, and it wouldn't look like biblical biblical principles and they were happy with that. And that's
Starting point is 00:31:27 exactly what they got at Harvard. Let me tell you what this is making me think about. Yesterday, Tom, how weird was yesterday? Check this out. Yesterday I told you we did the estate planning for the family with Tom executive. They all came in here from Miami. We had a big meeting. You know what we did last time at the cigar lounge? You saw us at the cigar lounge. We were prepping for tomorrow's debate with Chris Cuomo and Dave Smith. But last night till 10 o'clock at night we were at the cigar lounge for three and a half hours. All we did was build the constitution and the culture of Valuetainment and Lion Holding Company to announce to everybody that if you come work for this company here's who
Starting point is 00:32:02 won't do well, here's who will do well. This is what we stand for, this is what we don't stand for, and we're giving it to you, so you're gonna say, I don't like this company. I think there's never been a more important time to think 100 years, because you can't be like, well, we got plenty of time, you don't. Every school that you, let's just say we start a school, university, you have to put who can run this school. Of course. Because if a school is being ran by Tom, school, university. You have to put who can run this school. Of course. Because if a school is being ran by Tom, let's
Starting point is 00:32:27 just say Tom is the dean of the school, president of the school. I don't care what happens if my kids are going to that school. I trust. Meaning I trust what's going to happen at the top. The teacher screws up, he's going to fire them. What are you doing here? Because I know what's at the top. It's very important that companies, if a company is being built on a cause, if a school is being built on a cause, the paper, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution of that school needs to be written who's going to run it one day. No matter how big of a check they cut you, even if your name is Forbes and you're the
Starting point is 00:32:54 great grandson, the grandson of the founder of Forbes magazine and you sell it to China for 95% and 2021 International Woman of the Year is announced as Hillary Clinton from Forbes. Forbes lost its way. So very important to protect it at the beginning. I want to go to the next story here. Okay. So next, this is leading me to Blackstone CEO to back Trump, cites economic concerns, rise of anti-Semitism. So again, Blackstone CEO, Rob, if you can Google him to see who he is. Steven Schwartzman wrote a phenomenal book called I Think What It Takes. If you haven't read it, you have to read this book as well.
Starting point is 00:33:30 So here's Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman. Confirmed Friday he will support Donald Trump and his White House rematch with President Biden. Schwarzman won the biggest political donors on Wall Street, was seriously considering backing Trump as anti-Semitism spread around the country, especially on college campuses. The Blackstone boss said Friday that concerns about academic, economic immigration, foreign policies under Biden, along with the dramatic rise of anti-Semitism in the country, drove his decision to endorse Trump, according to a statement issued to Axios.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Long viewed as a Trump ally, Schwarzman had said in 2022 he would not back the former president, saying it was time for the Republican Party to turn to a new generation of leaders. So he did not want Trump and then he goes Trump. How big of a deal is this? I think it's a recognition of what a lot of business leaders are seeing. I mean, look at what he cited. He talked about anti-Semitism and he's right, but economic, immigration, foreign policy. What does it actually end up coming back to? I'm poorer, my border's wide open, my community's completely changed, and the world's on fire.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Maybe we should hand it back to the guy who didn't bring those things. And I think that's smart money, and I think you're gonna see a lot more of these guys willing to do it. I think we'll probably talk about the trial that's going on right now too. Smart people see exactly what's going on.
Starting point is 00:34:43 They see the boogeyman that's been created and they realize it's a sham. And so they want to go with results and outcome. And that's what Trump is, has been. Yeah. And by the way, it's not just him. You know, you got David Sacks, who is a very trusted advisor to Elon Musk and a great mind. You got Chamath, which I think Chamath's position is a lot of credibility because there was the thing that came out got Chamath, which I think Chamath's position is a lot of credibility because there was the thing that came out about Chamath nine months ago when he said, you know, if you asked me four years ago what I would have given Trump, I would have given a D minus
Starting point is 00:35:13 or something like that, D plus. He says now after being able to see what Biden's done and what Trump's done, I give Trump a B plus and I have to say it. I hate to say it, but he was great at what he did. So Chamath, who was a former Golden State Warriors owner, Mark Andreessen, and others are coming out supporting this. By the way, last month in April, I believe Trump raised $50 million, Biden raised $25 million.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And he needed Clinton and Obama to help with that, but Trump did it all by himself. And not only all by himself, all by himself by only working one day a week. And if one day is worth more than a month of Biden, yep, think about that competition right there. Tom, your thoughts on this. Schwarzman. That comparison of the work week there is an incredibly low bar, but I think what you're seeing here is, remember, it was 2022 when Schwarzman said it, and now we're two years
Starting point is 00:36:03 later. So what do we have two years later? You go down the list. The report card is terrible. The cumulative effect of inflation, and we've said it before, oh, inflation is down. Well, that doesn't mean the prices have gone down. That just means it's like I use the example of a fictitious cousin. Hey, I'm 350 pounds, but I'm no longer gaining weight.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Yeah, but what are you going to do about the fact that there are fifty pounds and that's a twenty percent increase in prices over those two years or the cumulative impact of inflation and you've what people are looking at is there objectively looking at this is not and in consequential presidential elections we've had presidential elections a time in this country where you could argue i would argue election is always consequential presidential elections. We've had presidential elections at time in this country where you could argue, I would argue,
Starting point is 00:36:47 election is always consequential. But at times where relative peace, relative prosperity, people sometimes don't think it's too inconsequential who you elect. Well, you know, maybe it doesn't matter so much here and here. Maybe it's as a George Bush senior versus Perot versus Bush. Well, you know, maybe it's, you know, maybe it's not done really matter too much. Maybe it's one or the other. And what people are seeing now is just how freaking important the election is.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And you've got people that are walking back from the social stance. They were taking social progressive stances and now they're stepping back and saying, wait a minute, social progressive stances don't matter is as Pete just said if the world's on fire foreign policy we're being overrun with people that we have no homes for no jobs for it with an unbridled immigration we are the country of immigration but we come here in an orderly fashion give us your tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to free, etched on the Statue of Liberty. Come here, but come orderly so that we can assimilate you
Starting point is 00:37:50 and you can find a job, you can find a future, and come legally, and then the economy. And what you have is the people in Powerpat are coming out and saying, wait a minute, I can't do this. And I'm going back the other way. And you're seeing it in Silicon Valley. In Silicon Valley, the election, you go back to 08 and 12, I was out there. It was a cultural progressive election for Obama and the reelection of Obama. That's what it
Starting point is 00:38:18 was. It wasn't a national thought. There wasn't depth to it. It was a progressive, we're going to have our first African American president, which is not necessarily a bad thing. It's historic. It's historic. It's not a bad thing unless he doesn't turn out to be a good leader making good decisions for the country. And you know, I think people are coming out now and people are saying, you know what, I can't do this. As James Carville has famously said, it's the economy, stupid. So you know, you see all these billionaires that are backing Trump now. Why do billionaires all of a sudden say, all right, maybe Trump's the guys because billionaires
Starting point is 00:38:49 understand money. The number one issue, despite what you hear about abortion and culture wars and even immigration or Gaza, God forbid, is the economy. It's the economy, stupid. And what investors know is the following. You don't throw good money after bad money. The whole dumb money movie. The reality is once you've made a bad bet, you say, all right, it's called the sunken
Starting point is 00:39:13 cost fallacy. Good, I lost 50 grand, I lost 100 grand. My bet is going sideways. I'm out. I'm not putting another 100 grand down here. Now, we're not talking 100 grand here. We're not talking millions here. We're talking billions of dollars at stake for these billionaires. And it's not just
Starting point is 00:39:27 Steven Schwartzman and BlackRock. We've seen the evolution. So whether you're betting in Vegas, whether you're a billionaire, whether it's in politics, at some point you'd be like, yeah, I'm good on this guy. Cause they've had four years of Biden. Here's a quick list. Jamie Dimon has come out basically and said, yeah, Trump's done pretty good. Jamie Dimon is our bigger name in finance than Jamie Dimon. Steve Wynn, who owns all the casinos. Woody Johnson of the Johnson and Johnson family, I believe he owns the New York Jets.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Joe Ricketts who owns Ameritrade. All these guys are billionaires are like, by the way, whether it's the rock we just talked about, whether it was Rogan, Elon Musk, none of these guys I would assume voted for Trump in 2020. And it seems like they're all gravitating this way. It's gone guys, I would assume, voted for Trump in 2020. And it seems like they're all gravitating this way. It's gone so far that now Trump, he made an announcement that he might be even considering having Elon Musk as part of his cabinet. This is where
Starting point is 00:40:15 we're at today. And you know what they say? Everybody always says this, this, this quote, you know, I hate to say I told you so. No, we told you so. We said it from the beginning and look how everybody's turning now. The Michael Rapoportz, the Jamie Dimon and all these people. We told you from the beginning everything from Russia to COVID. He's a Hitler. He's a racist. All that stuff is dwindling down and now everybody's coming out going, wait a minute. You know what? You guys were right. Let me hear Pete's talk. Go ahead, Pete. No, and the hangover is over of the progressive hangover. Good movie, by the way. Very good movie.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I love it. Meaning, meaning it was very convenient and easy to float along with reaction to George Floyd, post the black square, DEI, all the defund the police, all of that, all the climate change stuff. It was very easy, whether you're the rock or a corporate CEO, to say, oh, of course we're doing these things. This is what we support. This is inevitable. Biden was a part of that. Obama was a part of that.
Starting point is 00:41:12 It's very easy. And Trump was an easy boogie man to sort of say, well, of course I can't go for that. And then the hangover wears off. It's like, well, no, we actually do need cops. And oh, the border patrol actually is like the good guys. And maybe young boys shouldn't be pressured into becoming young girls like that yeah if you want to if you want to be openly gay or whatever that's always been fine but
Starting point is 00:41:33 don't trans my kid so all this stuff went to its logical crazy extent and it liberates these people at that platform notice the rock isn't saying I'm for Trump they can conveniently and I'm not dissing him on this, conveniently just say I'm out. I'm out. I'm not taking a stance. Even Cardi B is like, he Biden no longer has my vote. Rock says no longer. So they're not a stance for that. Those people is taking a stand. Vinny, bring up a good point. Like I told you, I told you so, but what's the reason? Because as Pat famously says, more is caught than taught. So, you know, like in the famous movie Scarface, he's in the eyes, Chico, the eyes never lie.
Starting point is 00:42:07 People have to actually see what happened under Biden. I'm okay with that. I'm actually totally okay with that. Again, that guy, the anxious generation, gives the argument more credibility because he's now willing to move. I'm okay with that. People who were not for it, like Schwarzman two years ago saying, I'm not, now I am, that gives it credibility.
Starting point is 00:42:28 That's the beautiful part about what's going on right now. Let me continue. I'll go to the next story. So Pete, maybe all the stuff that's going on right now with Trump, jury, New York, I'm sure you're following it obviously closely. Give us a rundown thoughts. What do you think is going to happen? Pete Buergeron Well, when you step back for a moment, how
Starting point is 00:42:44 historic it is, for the first time in American history, 250 years, we have a president on trial. His future is in the hands of 12 average Americans in the city of New York, and we still have no idea what he's being charged with. We just don't have any, and a jury is being sent into a jury room with 50 pages of instructions that they're not allowed to take into the jury room. And their instructions from the judge, a Democrat judge, very clearly, obviously, is you don't
Starting point is 00:43:13 have to have a consensus on what the charges are. You can pick and choose different aspects of different charges to cobble together a consensus so that we're eroding anything about anything being unanimous. It's an un and and by the way by not giving them instructions you're requiring this jury to keep going back to the judge time and time again which what is that judge going to do? Get a little closer to a conviction, get a little closer to a conviction, get a little. The whole thing is so epically rigged you you can't even, I mean, you listen to experts and every third word is unprecedented, unprecedented, unprecedented. So what I think will happen is you'll probably see some level of a conviction on something. How could you not? It's so rigged that
Starting point is 00:43:56 they'll get something. It'll be appealed and it won't hurt Trump in the polls. I just don't, but this is, you saw the announcement of the Biden campaign is going to do a press conference at the White House. He's going to do a speech at the White House once a verdict comes out, a nonpartisan speech to the nation. Because this is the only shot Biden's got right now is to try to frame it as an election about a convicted felon versus old Joe. I think so too, but reliable Joe. I think so too. It's gonna hurt him. But it's their only play. What other play do they have? No, no, but they have a few other plays. I just don't know how what level of deception they're willing to go. Look,
Starting point is 00:44:30 I mean when you have to call Vito Corleone, Rob, if you can pull up the clip here from Godfather to come out and be the spokesperson or the campaign manager, play this one clip and then I'll want you to go play the other clip when he's walking away. Go ahead, Rob. a play this one clip and i'll want you to go play the other clip when he's walking away go ahead rob and elections forget about it that's all that's done if he gets in who wrote it
Starting point is 00:44:50 i can tell you right now that that's usually will never leave he will never correct there you know that will never leave what does that mean do you think is that the country we want to live in? Do we want him running this country? Look at the camera pan. I'm not leaving. Look at that car. I hope this new ad campaign campaign reaches outside the bubble to remind supporters of what a danger he is to our lives.
Starting point is 00:45:25 This is not a threat, this is a reality. Rob, you can pause it. Rob, do you want to see who's beeping the horn? Rob, can you play who was actually beeping the horn? Where is it? Right here, play it. Go back to the other one, Rob. Go backdog. But go back, go back to the other one, go back to... You're funny. Go back to Twitter and play the clip when he's walking away. If you can go back to Twitter, when he's walking away... Oh, the set right here.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Is this it? This is even better. I drool for this. Fuck you! Fuck you! This is what it's come down to. You touch kids! You touch kids!
Starting point is 00:46:01 You lose up! Fuck you! Suck my dick! Your mother's shit! Fuck you! touch kids! You loser! Fuck you! Suck my dick! You mother shit! You swine! Okay, you can stop it right there.
Starting point is 00:46:09 This is not the one I wanted to play. That was the girl. I saw the other one. I gave you the one to play. That's the other one I wanted to play. I didn't say this one. Can you go to the other one, Rob? So this may be Vinny's one.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I like the one that I gave you is the one I want you to play. Go to the one I gave you, Rob, from Twitter. Just go to my Twitter account and you'll see. That's the first one up there. This is what's frustrating about this. This is what's frustrating about this. This is what's frustrating about this. This is what's frustrating about this. This is what's frustrating about this. This is what's I gave you, Rob, from Twitter. Just go to my Twitter account and you'll see.
Starting point is 00:46:25 That's the first one up there. This is what's frustrating about this, is when they're walking away, go lower, go lower right there. Play this clip. This is a little bit like, play. You are gangsters! You are gangsters! You can't talk to people like that.
Starting point is 00:46:39 You can't talk to people like that. So here's the thing. One, Vinny. Yes? You're an actor. You're an actor. You're an actor. You're an actor. You're an that. You can't talk to people like that. So here's the thing. One, Vinny, you're an actor.
Starting point is 00:46:50 So how much of that was him? How much of that was somebody handed him the note? How much of that is acting? I'm so happy that you asked because let's not forget guys, this is Robert De Niro, right Peter? He's a two-time Oscar winner for Raging Bull and what was the for Godfather right? This is an act and it might like think about it he's in up the Upper East Side of Manhattan in a multi million dollar house what would make him come down
Starting point is 00:47:13 there to speak like this by the way on a script that he hasn't written people you saw it he's barely reading actors know how to act and memorize it this just it to me this is my opinion I feel like the left has people like this do their dirt for them as if they have dirt on them. Let's not forget, again, this is, these are facts. Robert De Niro's name was found in Jeffrey Epstein's little black book. Fact, okay. 1998, he was questioned by French authorities in connection to an international Epstein-esque prostitution investigation after his name was mentioned by a woman. He was detained for nine hours. He was talked about prostitutes that were reportedly matching up with wealthy clients
Starting point is 00:47:50 as far as New York City, weird, Arab Gulf states clients, including Saudi princes, members of Persian Gulf monarchies, armed traffickers and celebrities. To me, it almost seems as like, why would he do that? It looks like I think they have dirt on his ass and like hey listen get your ass out there, we own you, go out there and say Trump is Hitler, Trump is the worst and the end of the world is going to come. That's me. What else would make Robert De Niro, PBD, he's worth 100-200 million dollars. You're going to come down to the city with the peasants with these right-wingers and get in their faces? Why would he do that? Why explain that to me? What is it? What is he doing?
Starting point is 00:48:25 Wait a minute you Think he believes what he's saying. I don't think so. I think he's told to do this. I think he's acting Who are very good friends with them behind closed doors I'm not gonna say the name because this was a private conversation. Trust me, you know this other actor, big name as well, he cannot stand Trump. Okay, so why would you go out publicly in the streets of New York to be that's dangerous. He's at a point right now for him in his life. So I don't know, man. I think there's a part of it that is either Trump didn't fund something he was trying
Starting point is 00:49:02 to do where he wanted money from him. It's something behind closed doors with a girl that he wanted to get with that Trump God It's something that none of us know that is doing this that only Trump and him know that Behind closed doors that is driving him insane that maybe at one point He was the guy in New York and now Trump is it's got to be something you can't have this level of rage. You had an incredible acting career. Unbelievable, one of the better resumes of, he's got the top 10 best resumes of movies. Of course.
Starting point is 00:49:33 In the last 50 years. Of course. And you act like this? What do you think, Pete? I think he does, what Trump said is right. At some level, he's got a really nasty case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. We all know people who that's happened to. The name itself elicits pure emotion. And I think the campaign,
Starting point is 00:49:51 this does come back to the campaign though. They're looking for a curve ball moment. They need a game changer. They need, I mean, what happened four years ago, right around this time, the George Floyd riots, COVID, all of that totally changed the contours of the 2020 election. I mean, Donald Trump, you remember the, theours of the 2020 election. I mean Donald Trump you remember the The State of the Union address he gave where he gave the Medal of Freedom to Rush Limbaugh Remember that yes, the economy was roaring and he barely mentioned China and COVID it was like one line because it was brand new He was on this a fast track to reelection. He was popular even after everything that gone after him He'd been liberated after the Russia nonsense, all of that. COVID happened, George Floyd happened. The Democrats
Starting point is 00:50:29 know they need a curve ball and maybe it's in that inside that courtroom or maybe it's out in the streets and maybe it's Robert De Niro or maybe it's something else. Maybe it was the protest, whatever. But I think you just start throwing stuff against the wall. I think you're going to see Democrats. Let's throw De Niro out in the streets of New York and see what happens. He's deranged, he'll say something. They don't have a better option right now. And I definitely think, okay, he doesn't like Trump, but the phone call to Robert De Niro,
Starting point is 00:50:54 because he works closely with the Biden administration, hey, Bobby, you're gonna go out into the streets, and I'm telling you right now, why would he do that? He had like nine security guards with him. Let me tell you, when a person, like look at Keith Oberman, right? Psychotic. He's nuts. Look at Keith Oberman.
Starting point is 00:51:11 He seems delusional. Yeah. Like he seems like he's lost it, right? There is people on the left that don't like Trump and they'll make the argument and the case but they're not delusional. Robert De Niro's legacy, unfortunately, every time he had everybody. Who did he not have? You have the left, the right, the center, you have every, and you go do this?
Starting point is 00:51:37 Listen, look at the way, not to go back to the rock, it's not like I'm doing anything at this point, the event's already been sold. So this guy goes, RNCC 2001 speaks at the RNC. Did you guys know this? I remember that. Yeah, I got that. Yeah, he showed it to me. Are you kidding me? Pull it up. Dwayne Johnson RNC, I think it's 2021 or whatever, right? So if you go up to Dwayne Johnson RNC, right there, the third link, pre-comment press press. Let's see if you have it Yeah, that's him talking to people So you speak at the RNC then you say what you say about Trump, then you make the video
Starting point is 00:52:29 about Biden, now you're saying, look, that's what I did, this is what I did. What is he doing? You're kind of like, okay, I think he's going through it. Fine. You don't see, but Pacino goes and, what do you call it, De Niro goes and reacts this way. You think Pacino likes Trump? Have you seen Pacino act this way? He hasn't said anything I don't see anything with Pacino not at all saying this way you could come out and say hey I'm supporting Biden because I think it's a risk if we go the other way for the following reasons
Starting point is 00:52:57 But to do this this is career-ending legacy or 82 year old He's been on a run though. Last week it was Trump is Hitler, months before Trump is Hitler. It's a campaign that they're using him to scare the shit out of people. And I think they have something on him. That's my opinion.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I'll just tell you something real quick, Vinny. I don't think this is an act. He's one of the greatest actors of all time. What do you mean? That doesn't make any sense. You wanna talk or you want me to talk? No, but you just said it. You contradict yourself.
Starting point is 00:53:23 You contradict yourself. You said he's not acting. He's the best actor in the world. What the hell are you even talking about? That could be an act. He's an actor. He's an Oscar winner. That could be an act, Adam.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Okay. What do you think? No, no, it's Vinnie Turn. Go ahead, Vinnie. Well, you contradict yourself. I want to collect. I'm just saying it's not an act, Vinnie. How do you know?
Starting point is 00:53:39 Vinnie Jones. How do you know? Listen, he's 80 years old and Pat hit the nail on the head, proverbial name on the head. He's tarnishing his legacy. What did Michael Jordan famously say? Republicans buy sneakers too. Well, you know what? Republicans watch movies too, Mr. De Niro. And he's going to the tribal corner and he's basically ruining everything he's done for
Starting point is 00:53:59 the last 50 years, whether it's the ridiculous tough guy movies, whether it's casino, whether it's good fellows, whether it's the Godfather, whether it's Cape Fear, ridiculous movie, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull. What he's proved to be is sort of a fake tough guy. Small man. Yeah. Now he's doing the Fokkers and the little Fokkers and the bad grandpa, whatever it is, dirty grandpa.
Starting point is 00:54:18 It's just a fake tough guy. This time he's an old Fokker, if you think about it. He's an old mother Fokker, that's true. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I asked Rudy Giuliani this when we had this. I said, how much you concerned about you hitching your wagon to Trump is ruining your legacy? Because believe it or not, Rudy Giuliani's legacy is tarnished as well for a different reason.
Starting point is 00:54:38 But when you go all in on something and you have zero ability to basically say, well, I could have been wrong, could have been right. There's reason as PBT calls it. You're just completely tribal. This is where you end up with the people go to tribes. By the way, he's as emotional as tribal as it gets, but it's not a good look for the mag. It'll be like, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:54:55 It's not a good look. Whoa. So what just happened there? It's not a curse. It's a new technology. So it's just not a good look. But there is what I would I try to take is a little bit of truthiness of what he's saying because the whole threat to democracy, Trump, he's never going to leave
Starting point is 00:55:10 office. Well, he actually did leave office. So like there's evidence that he left, but there is a concern, like especially the Bill Mars of the world, that he's never going to admit that he lost. He's still saying that he won 2020 and there's a, according to the Bill Maher's of the world, a high likelihood they will not admit defeat. Now, if he loses to Joe Biden again, Jesus Christ, but there is a valid concern that you don't have to admit to anything. You just have to do it. So he, that's what Bill Maher says all the time. Well, he didn't concede the 2020 election.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Well, he left the white house. Right? You know, who else didn't concede the election? Hillary Clinton. And she conceded, I guess. But then she groused. She gave a four year. So like this game all day long, anybody that knows Donald Trump knows that, you know, he wants to win, but he knows there's one more term and he's going to do everything he can with it. But I want to know the best evidence. I just don't think this is a good idea on what he's doing. Rob, can you play this clip of Junior right afterwards giving his message? By the way, this is probably one of the most fired up you've ever seen him with the message he's given. He's just
Starting point is 00:56:13 so you know, whatever he's saying, this guy, if you're watching this, Junior, if you're watching this, whatever your pops should say that can't say, you should say. Thousand percent. Every single day. Go ahead. He does this here. Go ahead, Rob.
Starting point is 00:56:32 But the fact that they are holding a rally across the seat from this very witch hunt right across the street tells us exactly what we all knew all along that it is a political persecution. It is a witch hunt. There is a reason one of the people sitting at that desk was the number three person in Joe Biden's DOJ. I know my father is not allowed to say Matthew Colangelo in his name, right? Because he's been gagged. The president of the United States is not allowed to exercise its first amendment rights in New York City in this day and age. Go straight to Matthew Galangelo's, what do you call it? Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Not enough has been made about that. Wikipedia. Yeah, go to that. Let's get smarter, folks. I mean, there's this thing called the Internet. What is that? That, you know, I think Ross Perot, is it Al Gore or Ross? It's Al Gore. Al Gore. I mean,, listen major gratitude towards that guy So so can you go to his Wikipedia? Let's just see who he is. Okay Does he have a Wikipedia Rob or no, I'm looking just put his name you put Calangelo
Starting point is 00:57:35 And you imagine if it was the other way around and there was a Democrat and trial and there was someone from the Biden Trump administration number three in there. I think you wouldn't have a Wikipedia page for sure. For sure. Yeah, I think it's Matthew. He didn't. I think that he's seen your by the Justice Department official. You can barely find it. So is there a Wikipedia? Are you kidding? Wow. Is that weird, guys? That's so weird. Not a Wikipedia on this guy. OK, so go to all right. I'm going to do it here as well, Rob.
Starting point is 00:58:02 So we can both do it. Matthew Chairman, joint demands, documents of brag prosecutor Matt one Matthew college former senior president Biden There is a lead attorney in plot. Okay, so House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan sent a letter to New York Attorney General Tisha Jim's demanding documents about the New York County District Attorney Avon Bragg's lead prosecutor Matthew Colangelo and think about the name Colangelo, as the committee continues its investigation into politicized prosecutions given the perception that Biden DOJ is assisting in District Attorney Bragg's prosecution, Chairman Jordan has requested communication with documents related to Colangelo's previous employment at New York Attorney General's office where he worked several anti-Trump
Starting point is 00:58:43 investigations. The fact that a former senior Biden DOJ official whose previous employment consisted of leading a wave of state litigation against Trump administration policies is now leading the prosecution of Biden's chief political rival only adds to the perception that the Biden DOJ is politicized and weaponized. Wow. And look at the bottom of that. District Attorney Bragg hired Mr. Colangelo to jump start his office investigation of President Trump. So
Starting point is 00:59:09 he's the number, no one goes from the number three at the DOJ to the Manhattan District Attorney's office to be, to just to be a rank-and-file investigator. Unless you've been given orders. Yeah. Because Bragg passed on this, this, this these charges the first time. Because there's nothing there. Pat, can I ask you a question? Put on your legal scholar hat because you know what I tend to do on these That's right, Harvard. 1.8 got you into Harvard bro. What I tend to do is go to who would be hating on someone like Trump the most and hear what they have to say. Right? So you know you're on Fox so who are your counterparts typically? CNN. So all right let's see what they got to say, right? So, you know, you're on Fox. So who are your counterparts typically CNN? So all right, let's see what they got to say. But it's interesting to find out what they're saying because Jake Tapper, there's a story here on page 17, even Jake Tapper basically basically said, yeah, Alvin Bragg failed to, you know, prove with the on a reasonable
Starting point is 00:59:57 doubt that Trump is guilty of Jake Tapper saying that on CNN. It's like, huh, CNN, by the way, the number one legal analyst commentator on CNN, in my opinion, is the guy, Elliot Honig. He's everywhere. He came out and said basically, yeah, he hasn't really done enough to prove. So it's easy for Donald Trump Jr. to defend his dad, obviously. It's easy for people on Fox to obviously get in line with the Trump crew. I get it. But when the people on, there it is right there. Jake Tapper, CNN, says that brag hasn't proves guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. A lot of these people definitely want this to happen. So my question to you, Pat, is this is probably the one shot
Starting point is 01:00:34 because I don't think any of the Mar-a-Lago FBI raid stuff or certainly the Georgia election situation or certainly the January 6th insurrection is gonna happen. So this being their one shot, do you think they're just going all in on trying to make this happen? This is all backfiring, my opinion. This backfired. De Niro backfired. Marlago backfired. Every single, even the girl, whatever, E. Jean Carroll that says, oh rape is like a fantasy. You're fascinating. You're fascinating Anderson Cooper. Anderson's like, we gotta go to commercial break, backfiring. Everything they're doing is backfiring. There's only one play left.
Starting point is 01:01:14 There's only one play left. If you wanna add the second play of maybe them bringing somebody in last minute to replace, maybe. But right now you get maybe Kamala steps away, who knows? I don't think that's going to happen. I think there's only one play left. This is why I think the president needs more security than ever before. What's the play? He just got to have more security than ever before.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Oh, you're saying all the time. There's character assassination, there's take all his money so he has to go back for money so he loses the credibility of saying I didn't take money from anybody. Every one of these things they've tried. They've tried the Me Too, they've tried the racist, they've tried the, you know, he called Hispanics this, they've tried the black, they've tried, he's getting the black vote from 9% to 22%. Young blacks are supporting him.
Starting point is 01:02:03 What are we talking about? So they only have one play. I would double like if they're raising money. I don't know the exact the statutory like what what you can use money for. I just think security needs to be doubled up. But Peter, what is I mean I think what's happening is obviously horrible. It's obvious it's lawfare and everything. But at least it's waking up the American people's eyes as to our justice system. You're seeing it right now, all compromised. Remember, we're talking about judges and the DAs are backed by George Soros.
Starting point is 01:02:31 If you think, just go to the FBI when they're taking photos, the FBI is compromised. They're biased. It's like what? He's exposing it, but what's going to have to change? If Trump comes in, Peter, God willing, he comes in. How can he change this type of thing from not happening again? I think that's part of the reason they're so scared of him is his first go around. One of his biggest challenges was personnel. He's new to the job. Who do I bring in? All right, Mad Dog Mattis has got a cool nickname. He should run the DOD. You know, it's, who was the first, Rex Tillerson
Starting point is 01:03:00 looks like the Secretary of State, but they weren't really on board with his agenda. He's going to bring in real ball crushers that are going to come in and say, hey, this is what we're going to do. He knows he's got one shot at it. And that's why they're so afraid. I mean, you got to go big at this point. And I think you'll have a license to go big. If he wins in face of what he's got, he'll have like, I love stuff like, I mean, obviously you need to put leaders in charge. That'll change the ethos of institutions, but they've burrowed people into these. I mean, all of them. Go by social security number.
Starting point is 01:03:28 If your social security number ends in six, four, two, or one, you're fired from the federal government. That's what Vivek was basically saying. I agree with him on that all the way. You have to do something like that, otherwise you'll never slow the spread of the size of growth of government. And then you've got to do a lot of- So let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Let me ask you this let me ask you this how much do you think people who are gonna be in his administration are gonna want his endorsement for something in 2028 how much you think Trump's say Trump becomes a president okay say Trump becomes a president how much will his endorsement in 2028 what will the value of that be in 2028 Tom what do you think you that be in 2028, Tom? What do you think? You know what I'm asking, right? I think the value is going to be really high for 2028, and I'll tell you why. Because you're going to see a different Trump.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I completely agree with what Pete just said. You're going to see a different cabinet. You're going to see a different execution from the Oval Office. You're going to see a much different America emerge from it economically. And then you're going to have people that want the coattails that need the coattails because America I believe is gonna sit back and go oh wow some things got back some things got changed back well who are his guys and who aren't they and I think that it's going to show that there's gonna be even brighter light the shows on the Rhino and
Starting point is 01:04:41 the establishment Republicans versus not MAGA Republicans because I believe that there's there's There's a group in there that are not pure MAGA But they are with Trump and they are not establishment and you and I think this is the new Coin of phrase here the new moderate MAGA and I think those will absolutely Want and need what he has look you can look at his coattails right now You can go take a look in Georgia Fannie Willis and everything that happened in Georgia want and need what he has. Look, you can look at his coattails right now, you can go take a look in Georgia. Fannie Willis and everything that happened in Georgia, look at the polls outside of Atlanta and look what's happened inside Atlanta with
Starting point is 01:05:13 the minorities. They don't even refer to Georgia, they mean DNC as a battleground state right now. It's nine points upside down, it's not a battleground. How did that happen? So they went after Georgia that didn't work and you notice how hard they're pushing to get things jump-started again in Georgia They're not it was embarrassment didn't go there, Colorado. Keep them off the ballot Supreme Court goes nine zero And so I think next you that is the Trump effect. Here's my and that's what people are gonna want in 28 to your question I'm gonna stay to your question. I'm going to stay on this question. So, anybody he brings in his team, okay?
Starting point is 01:05:50 You know how sometimes it's kind of like, you know, kids or grandkids, the father's the billionaire, but he's on his way out and he's going to die, and everything's already been in a contract, so the father no longer has any leverage, the kids are just kind of waiting for the father to die and everything's already been in a contract. So the father no longer has any leverage. The kids are just kind of waiting for the father to die. I don't know if this makes sense or not. Like you're 85 years old. It's like, okay, you can say whatever you want to say. Your word doesn't mean anything anymore. Everything in the trust has already been passed down to us and you can't change it because it's a dynasty trust or irrevocable trust. You can't change it anymore. Which means they don't need your endorsement anymore for 2028.
Starting point is 01:06:30 The reason if Trump's 2028 endorsement is going to be very valuable, his current team that comes in knows you can't effron and backstab him. Because if you don't do the job, you're going to get trashed in 2028 and now there's two case studies for you. You have the 2016 case, he won, but you guys thought it was an act and yeah, this guy's not the guy. You talked a bunch of shit about him, then he's out in 2020. I told you, this guy's not a president.
Starting point is 01:07:00 He was just acting. He was just doing this. Then you're like oh shit This guy's gonna be 2024. I'd like to be part of that administration Then you're in it now You know I can't backstab him this time because he's on his way out in 2028 and I'm gonna need what his endorsements exactly this concept here of what I just described if tier of what I just described. If the analyst can sit there and say, I think his endorsement in 2020 is going to be worth more than in 2024, more in 2022 midterms, more in 2020, more in 2016, if it's going to be worth the most it's ever going to be worth and you're
Starting point is 01:07:37 guesstimating this guy's going to live in his 90s because he's healthy, it's not like he's, if he's going to live that long, I think that's going to be the card he's going gonna be able to use behind closed doors to say, hey, here's all you gotta do. All I ask you is this, pa pa pa pa pa. But if not, here's what you have to, obviously you can't do that with the FBI, when you know, okay, I need your loyalty, can you be loyal? He can't do that kind of stuff, that part, but some part of it he has to know the market. Maybe it's an unspoken truth, I'm gonna need this guy in 2028 because he's out. I'm in a room with five other people that the other four all want to run for president,
Starting point is 01:08:12 and everybody has a big following. Let's just say everybody's influential. Guess what the other four know about me? What do they know about me? What do they know for a fact about me that's not on the table? No. I'm in a room with five other guys, everybody sizing each other up. You're loyal. You're not loyal. No, no. What do they know for a fact about me that's not on the table? You're leaving. No. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:08:27 I'm in a room with five other guys, everybody sizing each other up. This is the last couple months. Okay? It's me and these other four guys. You know who they are. They're all big names. Okay? What did they think it or not?
Starting point is 01:08:37 The other four say they have aspirations of one day running for president. What's one thing for a fact they know that when they size me up, what do they know about me? Audience. No, no, what do they know about me? Audience no, no, what do they know about me? I'm born in Iran for president. I can't run for president So what does that mean automatically? It's like it's like it's like you have a guy around your girl who's got a reputation But he's missing a dangle link. Yeah, guess what? You're not worried Best analogy I can give you right did you understand that? You know, I have to kind of use some science, right? So this guy can't run for president.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah. So it's like, Trump cannot run again. So he's not a threat for you in 2028. So guess what? Don't play manipulative. I'm on my way out anyways. Just make sure you're protecting America. We fight together because in 2028 I'll support you. I think that's a big card for him to use. That's it. I agree with that He wins and I think it has an immense amount of influence over who he chooses as his vice president And I think it works against someone like vivek And I love vivek because I think vivek has too much of a personality and too much of a following and would immediately be seen or perceived as an heir apparent from day one by the media and inside the administration and that's not something Trump would want so he's looking for someone like a Mike Pence frankly
Starting point is 01:09:56 Who will be a steady Eddie, but maybe not the heir apparent on that so that he maintains the ability to bestow Who the next leader of the MAGA movement is in 2028. Not that he'll single-handedly be able to do that, but I do think the apprentice style, you know, 2027, who will be my pick, will be the biggest we've ever seen, to your point. And do you think, Peter, from the field right now, who do you think Trump would, if you had to guess now, who would it be his VP pick? And for the future, who do you think would be probably running that he would want to see in 2020? Meaning like what Pat's saying, who he asked the, who he would back? Who do you think? I have no, I mean, you have no clue. I think JD Vance
Starting point is 01:10:37 has got a strong shot. I think, I think Tim Scott has a strong shot. I like Tulsi Gabbard. I'd love to see him make a play like that She's also probably unlikely to be the republican standard standard bearer in 2028 Which makes it I think and she has an ability to reach out to non-traditional republican constituencies And I think she's red-pilled pretty solidly From where she from where she was. Yeah Uh, she'd be interesting as far as who in 2028 like that because you're talking about don jr Yeah, I mean dude don jr and that's because you know the model here is the you're far as who in 2028. Like you're talking about. Don Jr. Yeah, I mean, Don Jr.
Starting point is 01:11:05 And that's because you know, the model here is the. You're saying 2028. So 2028 for president. It may not necessarily at all be a name we're thinking about. I said, well, that's what I was about to say. So for me, I think the number one draft pick for on my list is Vivek. If America can get past him being Hindu, that's gonna be the only thing. And a lot of people have said that, so it's not like I'm saying anything people haven't
Starting point is 01:11:29 said. But I also think outside of him, the VP is gonna be obviously, like Mike Pence was on the list, even though you're like, Mike's not gonna win. But Mike was on the list. He is a person that you would have thought as a person running. But I think four years is a long time, bro. I think the next four years, some major superstars are going to be born, climate's going to change, people are going
Starting point is 01:11:49 to come up, there's going to be a lot of weird things happen in the next four years. And all of a sudden you're going to be like, who is he? Who is she? For example, a year ago, Tucker gets fired. Do you remember when Tucker got fired and Tucker went to Twitter and he was doing a show on X and then Elon was retweeting all of it and one of the interviews I think he did got 400 million views on Twitter or whatever was like all these things that happened and his first comeback video was just Bonkers that he's going on X. Okay. I said a year ago. There's an alliance being built Between Tucker between Musk and between Trump. I said this a year ago, and I painted this picture, this was in April of last year when I said this. And there's no way, Ilana is going to be more of the DeSantis. Okay, Tucker, loves America.
Starting point is 01:12:47 I think he is so capable of getting under the skin of his opponents. I think he's smart, witty, sarcastic, sharp, funny, but vicious enough that he can get down and dirty with you because you need to have a level of viciousness. You just do. This game is nasty. You're not gonna go in and people are gonna offend you. You're gonna be like, oh, honey, did you hear what they said, babe? You can't play that game. I think Tucker will play and enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:13:17 I just don't know if he wants to do it. If he does wanna do it, he's on the list of a top three on my list for 2028. And I think he is ridiculously formidable and I think he may be just as entertaining, if not in a different way, more entertaining if this guy decides to do it in 2028. What do you think Tom? You spent some time with him, you and him got along really well, you and him had some really really good conversations, he enjoyed talking to you. What do you think about this? I happen to think that exactly what you say,
Starting point is 01:13:50 Vivek is the formidable, and I think more than formidable, he's capable. He's intellectual. He's broad and he's deep on certain issues. And I believe that he's going to be there. I also believe four more years, you know, in America, we're going to start realizing all of the things that we have been so slow to realize. When Nixon and Kennedy were up against each other, you can go back and read the articles that were in Life magazine, and Life magazine, like Walter Cronkite, was like this beacon of thought coming from the media that America basically trusted. Are we ready for a Roman Catholic president with Kennedy? That was one of the...
Starting point is 01:14:31 Is Kennedy have enough experience? Is he too young? And then he was elected. You know, and America goes through these moments of kind of getting through these things, and I think he's formidable. I think he's ready. I think he's ready. I think he's, you know, I's still a chance that Trump doesn't win in 2024. There's a chance. I mean, if you look on Vegas, sure. Okay. I mean, everybody's a word. People in the chat, what are you talking about? Like there's a chance. Yeah. You know, I think Trump is even money and Biden is I think 11 to 10. So 110, but yeah, there it is. It's not far off guys. But if somehow Joe Biden makes it to the debate stage, somehow Joe Biden makes it to the presidential suite again. Um, I could see Trump running again in 20, 28, because
Starting point is 01:15:36 that's an option out there guys, putting that out there to the atmosphere. Let's see what happens with that. We'll see. I still think he's the favorite number two. You said that Donald Trump jr. Would be a likely candidate, what have you. I don't think he's going to choose for BP. Trust me. If Trump could have Donald Trump Jr. as the next candidate in 2028, he would pick him over. Why?
Starting point is 01:15:58 Because Trump's all about loyalty. Trump, who's he's loyal to his name and his brand, his family. He's not loyal to the VEC. He's not loyal to Pence. He's not loyal to his name and his brand, his family. He's not loyal to Vivek. He's not loyal to Pence. He's not loyal to Tucker. So if he could anoint somebody, I would assume it's someone with the last name Trump. Now as far as VPs this year or whoever would be, I fully agree that Vivek is a number one draft pick.
Starting point is 01:16:19 This might be controversial. I actually don't think it's Tucker. I'm probably going to get scorched in the chat. I think Tucker is smart, but corny is all hell. That laugh of his, dude, you remember when Ron DeSantis did his laugh and everyone's like, dude, like that's it. He was done. Howard Dean ran for president. He like gave one yell like, let me tell you, what I just think Tucker ain't that dude. Let me tell you, I have a scream speech. Yeah, but let me tell you the difference. You can say all that you want. Guess what? Billions of views will disagree with you that they like to see him this guy
Starting point is 01:16:54 Nobody gives a shit what he says if he started a podcast Oh, I'm not saying there's a light weight or anything. Wait a second If you're gonna make your argument, let me tell you why You're an element of why people do good on social media. I have a model, we've talked about this together before when we had dinner, a talent dinner. One of it is a level of depth of knowledge, where how deep you can go, right? Okay, the other one is what? Personality.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Personality is both attractive or interesting. It doesn't have to be just attractive. It can be a personality where like, I have no clue what the hell this guy's gonna say next. That still garners a lot of eyeballs, right? That Tucker has, which is undisputable. But these guys here, if Ron DeSantis started a podcast, it would not be a top 100,000 podcast. Not be, I mean, it would not be a top 100,000 podcast.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Not be, I mean, obviously it would be a top 100, top 1000 podcast, but point being, he doesn't have the personality. He's a policy guy, not a personality. He's a policy, it's different. Okay, let me go to the next story here on what we got. All right, so Rob, if you can play the Dwayne Wade clip. Maybe we go into the Dwayne Wade clip,
Starting point is 01:17:59 because as parents, a few of us here, play this clip on Dwayne Wade, what he's doing, and what the reaction's been, and then a Democratic senator out of, I don't know what it's called, California, that she's had some reactions. Go ahead and play this clip. Go for it. Welcome to Translatable.
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Starting point is 01:19:03 That's porn music. That's all I'm saying. So, I mean- That's porn music? I I'm so very proud. That's porn music. That's porn music? I didn't know there was a genre for porn. There's massive genre. That's exactly what it was. Okay, so now we know what he's doing. He's going back to the whole idea of, you know... What is he doing? It's a media company?
Starting point is 01:19:21 It's a website. To be honest with you... They're trying to make it be comforting for parents to accept if their kids want to transition and to become transgender because that kid was a 12 year old. That's Dwayne Wayne's son who was 12 years old, transitioned, I don't know if there's been any hormones or surgery, I mean it's pretty damn believable. But this is going to be a safe space online community, basically supporting mutilation of gender dysphoria transvestite teens. That's all it is, bro. It's normalizing it, it's grooming, it's sexualizing.
Starting point is 01:19:55 It's like those kids should be seeing doctors, psychiatrists to try to figure out what's going on. If everything's okay, what's going on at the home? What's making you feel like this? Not just like, all right, guys, come come all in everybody come in here and let's just go with it and I think it's I think it's ridiculous and then PBD you said you wanted to show the video of what's her name right the the Senate a Democrat state senator Susan yeah Talamante is eggman she says she's done with the
Starting point is 01:20:22 Democratic Party protecting violent criminals who abuse children. This is the California State Senate. Yeah. We're moving from Wade. No, no. We're on this. Go ahead. Yeah. Thank you Mr. President and members. I'd like to say as a as a progressive proud member of this body for the last 12 years, I'm done. She's done. I'm done with us protecting people who would buy and abuse our children. I'm done. Wow. I don't want to send more black and brown men to prison.
Starting point is 01:20:58 I don't want more people in prison, but I don't want people buying girls. I don't want people buying girls. I don't want people buying little girls anymore And I'm tired of saying it's okay, and that we have to protect the men who do it as A mental health professional and as a social worker I can tell you I've spent my entire career Working with people who have been wounded I'm not going to say beyond repair, but they have been wounded to their core I'm not going to say beyond repair, but they have been wounded to their core by the abuse that's been heaped on them, oftentimes by those that they love and look to protect them. Hmm. Their parents.
Starting point is 01:21:32 And if their parents won't do it, then by God, we should. Again, I am not arguing that we open the gates to flood our prisons with people. You can pause it. Yeah. But I am- You get the idea of what's going on. So, you know, go ahead Vinny. By the way, and just she's saying it, Pete, she goes, I'm done with it now, so for the past 15 years you've been letting it happen. Now all of a sudden she has a conscience and it's bothering her because they're releasing these people that are sex trafficking and stuff like that. And it's just getting, I'm happy that she's seeing the light finally, but you know, hopefully it's not too late. She wants to switch's seeing the light finally, but you know, hopefully it's not, you know, too late
Starting point is 01:22:05 She wants to switch parties now. What do you think about that Pete? Well, she said, two words she used tied back to the Dwayne Wade clip. I mean beyond repair and abuse Which is exactly what Dwayne Wade is is agreeing to be willing to do to young kids across the country Yeah, change them beyond repair. Yep, chemically or castrating them at an age where they're completely, clearly devoid of the judgment necessary to know anything, let alone what gender they should choose, which is the definition of child abuse. And we should say things like, shame on Dwayne Wade.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Shame on you for doing this to young people and selling it as if you're a beacon of goodness. I pray, I pray to God that in 30 years, hopefully sooner than that, way sooner than that, we look back and this is the kind of thing we say, we did that? What monsters? You know, there's always an issue like that. What monsters we were that we were doing that to 13 and 12 year olds? I would never do that. Democrats like that saying that are a recognition that maybe we're getting closer to that, but we had a long way to go because this is gospel for the left. This is their true north because it goes back to the garden. It goes back to Adam and Eve and God saying, I made men and I made women and they say, no, no, no, we're God. And if we're God, then there is no man and there is no woman.
Starting point is 01:23:25 And it's all blurred and you choose it. And for them, it's the ultimate rejection of faith. So it's core to who they are when they keep losing elections or keep having defectors, because they are so much about control. Maybe that's when they change their stance. Well, to me, this is a crazy story because I'm a massive Miami Heat fan. I grew up in Miami. I've been to how many Heat games? It's crazy to count. I've been like all around the Heat. I have friends who are Heat players like Wade County, bro, Miami Heat. And it's crazy that D Wade has gone from basically being the legend of the Miami Heat, now taking heat for advocating for kids becoming trans, gender, youth, this whole thing.
Starting point is 01:24:10 What's the website Vinny called? Translatable. Translatable. So it's so insane to me that this is where D-Wade is. He's gone from launching jump shots in Miami to launching websites to help LGBT kids, trans kids cut off their dangling. Adam, what's your point? I'm getting there, Pat. I'm trying to get you to get to off their Adam what's your point I'm getting there Pat I'm trying to get you to get to the point what's your point because
Starting point is 01:24:28 we got eight more stories you told us Miami tell us what's your point it's it just shows how far D Wade has gone from being a man's man he's got he's been married I think he's got five kids three baby mamas so do you married Gabrielle Union in 2014 this is something he's doing because he wants to be a good father. You think he's doing this because he wants a good career in Hollywood. What I'm, what I'm getting at is, you know, ever since he married Gabrielle Union, there's been clearly some Hollywood infusement. They moved out to LA, you know, he's gone from literally being an athlete basketball
Starting point is 01:25:01 player to a trans advocate and he's taking heat and it's calling it, what do they say? Sick, degenerate cash trading black kids. You know, listen, if you want to do your trans thing after 18, go for it. His son, daughter, whatever you call it, did it at 12. What's the cutoff here? No pun intended. It's crazy to see what's going on here. Like his legacy. We talked about Robert De Niro's legacy, you know, being the one of the best actors ever. And now basically just completely alienating half the country. D Wade is being a top 50 greatest player of all time. Arguably the top three to guard of all time, but behind MJ Kobe, there's D Wade.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Now your legacy is being an advocate for trans youth of color. It's just weird. I'm watching this podcast. I think it's called drink champs. I think that's what it's called. Yeah, down in Miami. Yeah. And these guys, one of the things that we're talking about, they said, so what do you think about Kamala Harris? I think it's this one. It could have been a different podcast. And so what do you think about Kamala Harris? And he says, what do I think about Kamala Harris? I think it's
Starting point is 01:25:58 Noriega saying this. He says, so they gave her a hundred million dollars to go to Africa to bring LGBTQ to Africa. They said, nah, you got to get the hell out of you. You can't bring that shit to here What he says they were not okay with it. They sent her back, right? They sent her back saying you can't do this to the black community. So it's kind of weird because I don't know if what Dwayne Wade is doing is actually gonna be accepted by Majority African Americans. I just don't. I think majority African Americans are going to be like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:26:31 This is not how we were raised. They're going to go to their grandparents, grandma, what they said, how they were raised. It's a very weird spin he's taken with this position. Again, another person that's taking a position that's going to be weird to go this far out that you're going to be this supportive of it, affecting kids, validates more why we need conservative parents raising kids the way they did. It goes back to that anxious generation guy who said what he said earlier. Okay, so let's go to the next story here, Rob. Next story, I want to go a little bit of business here. So, Chad GPT is better than humans at financial forecasting new study shows.
Starting point is 01:27:09 So new study shows open AI Chad GPT outperformed human financial analysts, achieving a prediction accuracy of 60% compared to the analyst's low 50% range. According to a study by Booth School of Business at Chicago, the study noted, even without any narrative or industry-specific information, the LLM outperforms financial analysts in its ability to predict earnings changes. Damn! The study highlights GPT-4 ability to excel in complex situations where human analysts struggle, utilizing chain of thought,
Starting point is 01:27:45 prompts to identify trends and calculate financial ratios, the LLM exhibits a relative advantage over human analysts in situations when the analysts tend to struggle, and applying CHAT GBT-4 financial insights to trading strategies resulted in more profitable outcomes surpassing market performance. Tom? two trading strategies resulted in more profitable outcomes surpassing market performance. Tom? I think what you're seeing here is that AI with and whenever you see the phrase LLM, large language model, it just means big pile of available data. Just think of it that way. Big pile of data. And when the AI models have the ability to take the data, they can do more faster than humans
Starting point is 01:28:28 do. Even humans that have models available that mean good grief. Humans have all kinds of models. They have got live trading things, and we have computer models that are tracing momentum of trades and little things that are happening during the day, longs and shorts and calls and puts and everything that are in there for us to trade. And what this is just saying is that, and by the way, the human analysts were 50%, and they're saying that this is 10 percentage points better because the AI model can take
Starting point is 01:28:55 more data and go it faster. And basically what this says is this is a sign of things to come. That the standard that we've got and how well we do something today, it goes up another step with these, with Nvidia chips and these AI models. And so it doesn't surprise me that with the same stack of data, the old way with the models and the computer programs and things it does versus GBT and GBT-4 with what it has, it's 10% better. It's unsurprising to me. You're not surprised by it at all. No, Ben, I think it's a sign of things to come, especially in real-time analytics. Okay, so let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Can this replace financial advisors and financial analysts? Can somebody who is sitting there saying, hey, chat, GBT ET4, I'm 49 years old. I have $390,000 in my 401k. I have a $600,000 loan. Here are my expenses. I'm married with three kids. They're 18, 16, 14 years old. I have $200,000 in cash.
Starting point is 01:30:00 I got a $400,000 policy that's coming out from my father passing away. What is the right investment I should consider right now, what to do with my $400,000? Should I look at small cap, mid cap, large cap stocks, bonds, real estate? What should I do? I think you're asking a math problem, and if it's a math problem, the AI models will ultimately give you a better. What you're asking about is portfolio risk theory based on my age. Hey, I'm 40 years old. I've got three kids. These are the ages. What you're saying,
Starting point is 01:30:30 so what risk portfolio should I have? The AI models are going to, I believe, be a tool for the financial advisor. I think you still need the human in this. But the tools that the financial advisors will have for selecting those Portfolios and the mixes of how much risk how much cash how much bonds how much this how much that because you're talking about risk Disbursement and portfolio theory that part's a math problem and AI is gonna do it better. Yeah, that's that's that's scary So then a I can't a I can't prospect a AI can't ask for referrals, AI can't come to your wedding and spend time with your family and come to your son. Build a relationship.
Starting point is 01:31:10 AI can't build a relationship, but AI can be complimentary to an advisor that's very good with people to accelerate the growth of their book of business. Very interesting. What do you think, from your space in media, you're with Fox, right? And some of the stuff you're comfortable sharing, you're not, I totally understand. How much of it are you guys looking at AI when you're having meetings behind closed doors? Is it, guys, leverage it in the following way?
Starting point is 01:31:37 Here's where the threat lies, here's where the opportunity lies. Are those conversations are being had? For sure. And right now it's mostly educate ourselves and educate people about what it is. I mean, I still think there's this huge knowledge gap between, and for everybody. I'll say, for me, this is a technology
Starting point is 01:31:53 that I'm not usually afraid of technological change. The internet, fine. Drones and warfare, that's definitely changing. AI, to me, has an aura of uncertainty that I don't like. And I especially think of it through the lens of a parent. I just know my kids are going to engage in such a different way with the world with AI. I look at something like this for, this is super valuable. You don't have to pay this machine but it's gonna make, it's gonna improve your performance by 10%. I mean that's
Starting point is 01:32:18 that's definitely not going anywhere. And even as you, every time you're searching an item today, some AI is putting together a paragraph that's giving us our information. That's inconceivable ten years ago. I just don't like artificial brains, but I understand it's where we're going and I know we can't put it back in the box. So I'm trying to educate myself and let other people know, but I think it's gonna be applied everywhere. Everywhere. I just want to live, and let other people know but I think it's gonna be applied everywhere everywhere I just want to live my in my life though. I want to live a dumber life like I don't have
Starting point is 01:32:50 Alexa I don't want it. I don't want my kids talking to machines and machines talking back to them I still want them opening a book reading things learning for themselves Synthesizing critical thinking and I think AI is gonna start to replace a lot of that Like just search it up search it up search it up and you're there's the answer as opposed to critical thinking and I think AI is going to start to replace a lot of that. Like just search it up, search it up, search it up and there's the answer as opposed to critical thinking which humans will always have the advantage of at some level. Yeah, this actually makes me think about something with Tom, the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951. You know what it makes me think about? Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 was created, Rob, if you can go for us, we've talked about
Starting point is 01:33:28 this at a private dinner before, can you go to the Wikipedia of Invention Secrecy Act of 1951? Just go to the Wikipedia to read it, go zoom in a little bit. So that's sentenced there, oh, that's actually okay. So 1952, so the US law designed to prevent disclosure of new inventions and technologies that in the opinion of selected federal agencies presented an alleged threat to the economic stability or national security of the United States. They have around 6,000 plus patents in here that threatens the United States' safety, security.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Some of the stuff that's in there, some people claim, are technology that would destroy the oil industries, where you and I can, on a gallon of water, can go 220 miles. Some of the stuff that they have that they don't want it to be public, because, you know, oil is a five trillion dollar industry, you're done. In America, it's a half a trillion dollar industry. Some of it is, you know, allegedly cures they have for some diseases that would destroy a lot of the big pharma industry. Okay, that's out there. So you know what? To me, there's a part of this that could play a big role with AI.
Starting point is 01:34:35 If anybody comes out with an AI software that could eliminate humans, this, the government and the president can activate this to say that Patent is going to be kept by us that cannot be available to you the people They pay you 75 percent around that of what they think that patent is ward and the government takes that patent away from you And if you ever sell it to another country do anything with the you go straight to jail now Whether you agree with this or not. That's not the argument. That's a complete different thing that we can do. I think in the next two, four, six, eight, ten years, you're going to see this be used to take some of the advanced AI technology that's being created that could get rid of us.
Starting point is 01:35:16 So I think that is an angle that we're not even thinking about. That could be happening the next. Shout out to the documentary, if you've watched documentary the last century the lost century the lost century I just watch it with Tico for the second time I had Jennifer watch it you have to watch it it's on Amazon Prime you'll learn a lot about this it's on your flight back if you watch it I will un-frickin-believable lost century the lost century by Stephen Greer Stephen Greer is about to be on a podcast and yeah it's gonna be fun you'll enjoy it okay so next door here which one do we The Lost Century by Steven Greer. Steven Greer is about to be on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:35:45 It's going to be fun. You'll enjoy it. Okay. So next door here, which one do we want to go to? Do we want to go to, let's talk about this one, Tom. I just think this one's interesting. We didn't talk about it. I want to talk about it because I remember when this happened in 2008 with realtors.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Okay. So real estate agents are fleeing the field. Is that good for home buyers? Real estate brokers April Strickland observes a significant mismatch in Gainesville, Florida, housing market with more than 1,500 realtors, but only a few hundred homes sold each month. Leading to financial struggles for many agents, quite frankly, realtors are running out of money, Strickland said, highlighting the severe slowdown compared to past downturns. The real estate industry is facing a substantial exodus with the Bureau of Labor Statistics noting a drop of 72,000 full-time agents and brokers in 2023.
Starting point is 01:36:36 New rules stating in August that further pressure realtors as a real estate agent database will no longer include offers of compensation for buyer's agent potentially reducing U.S. commission revenue by 30%. Many industry leaders think they are way too many agents," said Steve Probeck of the Consumer Federation of America. Tom, what do you think about this? We have gone through time in the real estate industry that all the seasoned people that are really professionals, that are dedicated to their craft and what they do Have said that when times get good a lot of people are lazy
Starting point is 01:37:12 Because you could be lazy and make a reasonable living as a realtor when times are really good Why because everybody's got you know? to one degree of separation to a Community around you and you can sell a few homes and make you know 50 or 60 thousand dollars a year which was the number I'm quoting which was this individual said that when times are really flush when things are going crazy from 2005 2007 before the music stopped you can do it there and more recently you know prior pandemic. But then what happens? There's a shakeout.
Starting point is 01:37:46 And the ones that have long-term relationships with clients that families expand, they buy a larger house, they move from the area, and you have this, those people are able to weather the storm. It's not easy. And their income goes down at those times. But all the ones that ran in for the easy days
Starting point is 01:38:06 end up getting squeezed back out because I just can't make a buck. And look what they said. 1,500 realtors in Gainesville, but only a few hundred homes sold each month. There's the 80-20 rule, right? 20% of those people are probably in full-time jobs. 80% of them, I'm quoting the Pareto principle.
Starting point is 01:38:21 And you would imagine that 80% of them are probably the ones says, well, I'm going to hang up my license and go back to Home Depot where I was working before all this happened which is the California joke because it was a fact that people went from real estate from Home Depot to real estate back to Home Depot again from 2005 to 2009 and so I think what's happening here is a natural shakeout of people that are not entrenched. And ultimately, it leaves the good ones in the game who have a long-term career. And so I would argue that maybe the
Starting point is 01:38:53 consumer buying and selling a house is a little bit better served by a purification of the professionals that are in a space so that they get better service from people that are dedicated to their career. Pete, you got friends and family everybody's got friends and family in real estate right? We hear stories all the time what are you hearing and what do you think about the story? Yeah it does feel like a natural market correction on an industry that had was booming for a long time and recently was involved in real estate transactions and money's just not cheap
Starting point is 01:39:23 the way it was before. People aren't making the changes they would quickly make before. People are sitting on nest eggs, understanding what that value is, understanding what their mortgage is and then middle class or younger people can't afford then to buy in. There's just less movement. Everyone's kind of sitting, it feels like in the real estate market, which means if you're a real estate agent, it's time to make a move. But that's also not to tie it back to politics, but that's also part of the mood.
Starting point is 01:39:47 That's the mood of the country right now. No one's moving. I can't move up. I can't move out. I can't, I can't make moves because of the economy or because of inflation or because of rates. And I think that's a big part of what we're seeing in political numbers too. Adam, when it comes to real estate, I'll give you the three L's that I've seen. Getting your
Starting point is 01:40:05 license, how you look, and the lifestyle. So getting your license in real estate is very easy. In South Florida here, there's a school called Gold Coast Realty. I got my real estate license, but I didn't know what the hell I was doing in 2005. I literally saw people sleeping outside condos for the opportunity to buy. We talked about Nina, no income, no assets. I was like, all right, I guess I'm going to get my real estate. That's when I was doing everything in the hotel. I mean, look, there's, you know, the evolution of real estate, especially beautiful girls, they get their license somehow, their bottle waitresses, their only fans girls. And then all of a sudden real
Starting point is 01:40:45 estate starts booming. They get their real estate license. The real estate market starts doing bad. They go back to only fans. They go back to bottle waitressing and it's the evolution of the looks of the ladies in the real estate game. We all know that it's sort of like a facade almost what these, a lot of these realtors do. It's no secret. I think there's like way more homes, way more realtors than there are homes for sale. So not everybody's going to get the business. Like you talked about the Pareto principle, 20% of the realtors get 80% of the business and 80% of the realtors get 20% of the business. But here, here's I I'm not hating against real estate, but just not everybody's going to make it. Here's what I've also seen the lifestyle. If you're a realtor, you have to have a nice car. Imagine your realtor shows up and you're going to
Starting point is 01:41:34 buy a talk about a million dollar house. Much. I'd say $10 million house. Your realtor shows up in a Toyota Corolla. Okay, buddy. Your realtor shows up with a Mercedes Benz, a Maserati. Okay. This guy probably knows what they're doing. I know a lot of realtors that don't make money, but they're driving nice cars. I also know a lot of realtors ready for it. That rent, ton of realtors rent. I would say 50% of the realtors that I know in Miami just rent. Hey, why don't you buy it?
Starting point is 01:42:01 You're a realtor. Well, you know, the mortgages are expensive. The interest rates are expensive. The, you know, the, the, the taxes are kind of, kind of high, by the way, good luck getting homeowners insurance in, in Miami or flood zones. Ridiculous, by the way, just to flip it. I don't know any financial advisors or stock brokers that don't own stocks. Think about that for a second. So getting your license is easy. You got to be good looking and you got to kind of fake it till you make it. Now the ones that make it are legit. I know realtors who stuck it out after 2008. They made a ton of money in
Starting point is 01:42:35 05, 07. Then it came back. They made a ton of money. They've been realtors for 20 years, but the fly by night guys who try to come in and come out and basically Ride the wave they're gonna get cast out to see when the market goes down Yeah, I mean listen. I just pulled up right now. How many total realtors in America? What do you think the number is a million? Million it's a lot. What do you think it is 340 million? 285 thousand four hundred thousand one point five million. Okay. By the way, is that higher than you think? I think that's a higher number than I would have thought. Yeah. No, I knew it was over a million. I know. One and a half million is way more than a million. That's still 50% more than I thought. So one and a half million realtors in America. I think life insurance agents, there's only
Starting point is 01:43:19 a half a million of them. If you think about number of insurance. Find out how many homes are for sale in America. Yeah. Well, the part about this is a lot. Like If you think about number of insurance companies. Find out how many homes are for sale in America. Well, the part about this is, like if you think about cops, firefighters, who becomes a realtor, there's a lot of part-time realtors in America. So if you're a part-time realtor, you're always a part-time realtor. What is it now? 1.6? Almost one to one. But it's never one to one. Because the top 1% takes 80% the top 1% takes more than 50% Take 80% no doubt yeah, so but Yeah, when you think about this some of these guys I get into it part-time
Starting point is 01:43:55 Who is paying the price is the guys about the two Ferrari in the Lambo and you should never bought it those are the guys that are paying the price in a Massive massive way we're at Mar-a-Lago, having 300 people at the event attending a sales leadership summit. I say, raise your hand if you're from the mortgage industry. Do you know how many people raised their hand? The year before that 25% of the room were from the mortgage industry. I said, raise your hand if you're from the mortgage industry. One hand went up out of 300 and he was from Canada He was not even out. Yeah, he wasn't from here only one
Starting point is 01:44:29 Only one guy's hand went up. All right next story. What do we want to get to next? Give us a story you guys want to go to do you want to go to pension funds? You want to go to the Pope? Do you want to go to Cardiff and Cardi B? Let's go to Candice and Cardi B Here we go Cardi B hits back at Candace Owens for wanting pornography banned. Okay? Big story here, guys. I know a lot of you guys are sensitive with this, so just hang tight. Let's go through this. Here we go. Cardi B defended pornography after Candace Owens called for it to be banned, saying on Instagram, OMG, why y'all so against porn is it that bad for y'all I enjoy it but
Starting point is 01:45:07 I don't know I guess I'll it's like a six time a year thing I personally don't feel no connection or addiction to it just a little quick one or two nothing like real intimacy she added it actually should teach man how to please a woman okay Candace Owen sparked the debate by tweeting banned pornography it's psychological weapon intended to weaken our men. Cardi B responded, challenging the idea and defending the potential educational value of pornography. Cardi B, who previously supported Joe Biden 2020 election, announced she won't be voting for Biden or Trump in the upcoming election, citing layers and layers of disappointment. Pete.
Starting point is 01:45:42 Pete Buerkle-Forsen Well, I agree. I mean, I agree with Candace Owen on Owens on this. I don't see the upside of it. I see the way it's it wrecks young men. It's not going to happen. I do like what states are doing. I think what's the policy that Florida has pursued? You have to is it age verification or something along the lines of you have to prove that you're over 21 or over 18 on any of these porn websites and
Starting point is 01:46:07 You have to use your real name and a real email or whatever it is to do it and as a result Traffic has dropped by like 90% a lot of these sites. I just think that's good for society I think it's good for marriages. I think it's good for men. I think it's good for kids. I think it's good for women I don't see a lot of good, and I don't say that as someone who's a Puritan in every way, but I agree with her I think Well, I mean, let's let's think about you guys know what the oldest profession in the world is hooking Prostitution. Yeah for 1238. That's the that's the I mean it goes way back Tom We know about this. But anyway, I think I'm ape
Starting point is 01:46:42 I don't watch it But I I could see like when it comes to prostitution and strip clubs and all that stuff. Think about those crazy guys that need that release. And if they don't get it from somewhere else, Pete, I think those guys are going to be out in the streets. They're going to be out looking for it. It's always going to be available. Oh, 100%. I don't think making it illegal, because I think some people who are overly sexualized, they have to, they need to watch that. I want those people watching it and not going out and trying to take it out on actual women. What do you think, Tom?
Starting point is 01:47:13 It does not surprise me that someone like Candace Owen, who represents herself as being a woman of class and a woman of moral fiber, is going to say this, and she's absolutely correct. It also doesn't surprise me that Cardi B, coming from the liberal entertainment industry, where no holds barred and we go to Cannes every year for film festivals that push and push and push the bounds of what's acceptable or shocking or sexual, you know, to have regular movies to being just an inch from porn, you know, does it surprise me that she says, oh, it's not a bad thing and she's speaking like a, you know, a 50-year-old married guy, well, it's just five times a year or whatever.
Starting point is 01:47:57 Yeah, it doesn't surprise me. So it doesn't surprise me that there's this debate here. And you know, I wish Cardi B could see the impact on the other side of the wall because she's in the bubble and she's in a bubble where entertainment and everything says hey this is okay this is what it is that that that that all things permissible she's in a bubble I wish she could see the other side and see a lot of things because I we know Candace and Candace is research driven and she comes from a moral foundation and so it doesn't surprise me there's a debate here and I just wish people in the bubble could see the facts and
Starting point is 01:48:31 figures about what's happening on the other side because there's a lot of human rage. Well Cardi B and Candace Owens are literal polar opposites. You couldn't have the moral fiber difference between the two of them but I will say that I think that Cardi's actually right on this one. I'm not saying that she's in the right. I'm actually saying that there's a difference between what would actually happen and what you would love to happen. Idealistic thinking and reality.
Starting point is 01:48:59 I also think that there's the probable and the improbable. Here's the reality. Porn's not going anywhere as much as Candace wants to banish it away. Just like alcohol wasn't going anywhere during prohibition just like drugs aren't going anywhere. There's always going to be a black market for all this stuff. Good luck telling a 13 year old kid who just saw boobs for the first time. Yeah, bro. You don't don't don't go look online. Okay. Let's see how that happens. So by the way, Cardi B, I literally think was a sex
Starting point is 01:49:25 worker that drugged men to steal their money at one point. Yeah, exactly. That's her thing. But here's some stats for you. By the way, do you know that the porn industry generates more money combined than the NFL, NBA and MLB? They make $97 billion a year. All the sports, all the athletes, everyone you're thinking of, they don't make as much money as the Lisa Ann's of the world that's been here on the podcast. So 93% of boys and 62% of girls watch porn before turning 18. This is according to the Institute of Family Studies that 69% of men and 40% of women have watched porn this year.
Starting point is 01:50:07 44% of men and 11% of women have watched porn in the last month and men in their thirties and forties are most likely to watch porn Vinny. But here's the good news. I don't watch porn. 81% of women over 65 have never watched porn. So your grandma's probably not watching porn. But Mike just sent this to me, PPD porn hub, disabled its website in Texas after the fifth circuit court appeals upheld the age verification requirement last. Yeah, that's crazy. Well, that, and I think
Starting point is 01:50:33 that's, that's the, that's the larger point is, okay, yes, it will always be there. It's always going to be somebody's going to be able to find it. There's no doubt. You don't put the G back in the box, but if you can have common sense restrictions that prevent people who otherwise casually wouldn't do it or kids from doing it That's a good thing. Yeah, so I mean we all remember when we were 13 15 17 If you got a playboy magazine or god forbid a hustle magazine, bro It was like the you were the coolest kid in school. But like that was a it was a Magazine now you just go on the internet. It's insane with these kids and get access
Starting point is 01:51:02 I think you know, Pamela Anderson Rob if you can go to 15 seconds go it's insane what these kids can get access to. I think, you know, Pamela Anderson, Rob, if you can go to 15 seconds, go to 15 seconds. So Pamela Anderson is being interviewed here and she's talking about porn and she's talking about what it's like when she's out with men and what they do to her and she's teaching her sons about sex and the dark side of porn. And by the way, when you think about Pamela, look what she says. You play this clip. Go ahead, watch this. And I think we need a sensual revolution because in the age of technology, there's so much
Starting point is 01:51:32 access and I feel like people are becoming desensitized and there's multiple visual images that get weirder and stranger. It's a big concern. I have children and I have two teenage boys and you have a child. Yes, I have a 14 year old boy. It's worrisome and I talk to a lot of mothers and I know I'm part of the problem.
Starting point is 01:51:55 I probably disqualify myself from this whole situation because I was in Playboy and I had a tape stolen from my home and exploited all over the world and people saw things that they should have never seen. But I didn't think playboy was pro not pornographic No, and I think say people I'm sure will say Pamela Anderson is saying don't watch porn hang on I don't know if you've been treated like a porn star in bed. It's no fun at all slapped hit Called names spit on yes, that's sex. Have you experienced?
Starting point is 01:52:22 I have and I never want to have that happen again. Go back 10 seconds Rob. Because I think that's sex at all. Slapped, hit, called names, spit on. There it is. That's sex. And have you experienced that? I have and I never want that to happen again because I think people also put that image on me thinking they have to be wild and crazy and then I'm thinking, God, you know this
Starting point is 01:52:41 porn addiction when a woman who is living, breathing, lying in bed and your husband's in the bathroom with a computer, there's something going on that's not normal. I can't imagine any husband of yours being in the bathroom with a computer. I mean, who has more moral authority to talk on this than Pamela Anderson? Pamela Anderson. What do you think about what she said? What do you think about what she said? I think she's, how could she not be, I mean, of course she's correct in the distorting aspects of these types of things. What young men, I mean, I think about what I was exposed to and we all go through a learning
Starting point is 01:53:12 curve, right? It's a learning curve of, yeah, you're deciphering squiggly lines and then you're, you know, if your learning curve is explicit porn and then you're with your girlfriend or your wife or your fiance and that's your view of sex? Of course it's going to be distorted. Of course you're going to do things you shouldn't. It's not going to be intimate the way that it ought to be. She's right. And to your point earlier, what a great spokesman. The best spokesman for things are people you wouldn't expect to be a spokesman for it.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Yeah. If there's anybody's qualified to speak on it, again, it's her to give that perspective. And by the way, I got boys. And I'm so I'm talking to these guys about this stuff all the time. Like you'll go to a game and you see six boys are at the baseball game. They're all like, one of the kids has a phone and they're like, Oh, no, no, that's coming. That's coming. I'm like, okay, I kind of get what the hell is going on. So what do you think about what the stuff you guys are seeing?
Starting point is 01:54:02 What do you think about this? And having that open conversation? With them is key if you don't have the conversation That's the problem. You got to have the open conversation and break it down for them on what you know You're gonna be exposed to this. Yeah, you're gonna be exposed to drugs. You're gonna be exposed to cocaine You're gonna be exposed to weed you're gonna be exposed to all this stuff But here's what you need to know about any of this stuff You got any questions and then giving them context and stuff to see to be ready for it, because it's coming.
Starting point is 01:54:28 No matter whether you like it or not, they're going to be exposed to all of this. Back in the days, it was a VHS. In our Army unit, we had this guy in the corner. It was an E5. We walk in and everyone's calling him the goat. I'm like, why is this guy the goat? He's just a guy. The why is this guy the goat? He's just a guy. The goat is coming to our unit. The big 6'5 black guy comes in and he talks
Starting point is 01:54:51 like this, hey Vinny, how you doing? I'm good. He just talks very soft. I'm like, why did they call this guy the goat? I'm trying to find out what this good. And then you go into his barracks in the corner that was only for e5. Yeah, and you go in So VHS on top he said this guy's the greatest of all time He's the he's got the greatest porn collection of all time. What do you want? Oh my what type? He had Everything so guess what the unit was like always going through it, but no, but today it's not a VHS It is called this thing right here. And then people spend, since COVID, astronomically way more time on their phone. The problem
Starting point is 01:55:30 that young people are dealing with at this point since COVID is they don't know about IRL in real life. And whether that's playing video games rather than getting outside and playing actual games, whether it's going on dating apps and rather than going on actual dates or whether it's watching porn rather than going out there and actually meeting women. It's a pervasive problem. I know you want to move on. Just you want to talk about access. I was, I don't know if you guys caught it. I almost shit my pants. I went to X to try to send him the video of the bulldog. I typed in on X bulldog hopping, steering wheel, and I pushed enter and it
Starting point is 01:56:02 was gay. It was a guy with a bulldog mask how you doing dog how easy is this but like that's an accident so people So guess what for those who you that are part of the LGBTQ community you can connect Vinny right there and ask any questions You want now, you know, it's porn appetite. All right Let's go to the next story and we'll wrap up. Let me see which one I want to go I want to go to this one here. Okay, the Pope Pope apologizes Very tough after being quoted using vulgar term about gay men In talk about ban or gay priests Rob if you can pull up the story because I can't breathe You know what I'm saying if you can pull it up the way
Starting point is 01:56:55 He says I like there's a part of me that things this guy's maybe a gangster that we don't know about Okay, what's so Italian media on Monday had quoted unnamed Italian bishops in reporting that Francis jokingly used the word, can you zoom in very closely? Yeah, don't do that. Zoom in, I got it Tom, zoom in. While for the people that are in Spotify, Apple, Anchor, you're listening to this, go Google this quote. Let me read it again from the beginning, Rob, if I can.
Starting point is 01:57:23 Italian media on Monday had quoted unnamed Italian bishop reporting that Francis Joke and Lou's a term with the F, while speaking Italian during the encounter, he used the term in reaffirming the Vatican ban on allowing gay men to enter seminaries and be ordained priests. Pete, thoughts on this? We know the Catholic Church has a problem with this. It appears... Say the least, Pete.
Starting point is 01:57:51 So it's good to hear the Pope's over the target in problem identification. It's also nice, I mean, I don't condone use of the phrase, but it's good that he's recognizing it and maybe trying to do something about it, considering the rest of his priorities seem to be climate change and whatever Marxist cause, I mean, the guy's a Marxist, the current pope is. So yeah, he said, when you read into this, he openly says there are seminaries where this is just open. The well-known culture is that it's a gay culture. Well, if the church bans that
Starting point is 01:58:25 and you know that's happening, you ought to do something about that. Do you guys remember when, but it's kind of weird though that he's calling them this word. Do you guys remember a couple months ago, Rob, I sent you the video, he had Pope Francis invited 120 transgenders to launch the Vatican for the first time with over 900 other invitees. Do you guys remember this one? This one. Look at these beauts. You're all going today on a bus to the Vatican to have lunch with Pope Francis.
Starting point is 01:58:50 This is real? This is real! On Sunday, the Pontiff hosted a lunch for more than 1,000 people to mark the Catholic Church's World Day of the Poor. Francis' friendship with the Torbellinica Trans community began during Italy's strict COVID-19 lockdown when Father Andrea Conocchia found sex workers
Starting point is 01:59:06 showing up at his church, asking for help to survive. The Vatican stepped in, providing food, medicine, hygienic supplies, and even vaccines. Yeah, so peas are marginalized. Yeah, they're victims. Any thoughts on this, Tom? Where are you at with this? Look, if the Pope wants to be a voice, I would hope that that voice doesn't use slurs like this, because it's a slur.
Starting point is 01:59:37 And, you know, once you have the slurs out there, you really can't have a dialogue anymore because then people are triggered and they're upset. And I think the other side of it is factually speaking, it kind of confuses me because of what the Church has been openly conflicted about. And so it really hasn't stayed on one side or the other. It's been fighting a PR war of arguing of some realities that have existed there for decades. Adam? You know, you're not supposed to say the F word, but everybody knows you're talking about a fettuccine, al-ghaytl, whatever it is.
Starting point is 02:00:17 But the reality is, I don't know another religion that you have to be celibate. Correct me if I'm wrong, with respect to my Catholic friends out there. Like in Islam, you can have multiple wives and Mormonism, Mormon, more women, more wives. I don't know how natural it is for a man to go his entire life, whether you're gay, straight, up, down, left, right, to not have any sexual intercourse. And then you're locked in a little room and people tell you all their deepest darkest secrets. It's just, I, I'm not condoning that whatsoever, but if you're living that life, you're going to do some weird stuff. So I'm not shocked that all these priests who are living this life of celibacy kind of get caught doing the touchy
Starting point is 02:00:58 feely with the kids. It's so screwed up, but it's part of that lifestyle. Good luck out there. Listen, I think common sense eventually prevails and he's sitting there wondering what his legacy is going to be known for the amount of dumb positions he took. And now he's trying to figure out a way to backtrack because he's about to be replaced. He's going to have another person taking over and guess what? They're going to remember how you do, how you finish things. And he's slowly going a different direction than where they were
Starting point is 02:01:25 before, which is going back to common sense. For me, everything, the main thing that matters is when we started this whole thing off with Harvard, and he said Harvard got started because of clergy and wanting to share faith, and the three books, the Old and New and the One to Come and all this stuff. And now you have atheists, you have people that are in a completely different position defending that. The Pope, some of the things we read about him the last few years didn't make sense as a person to be the Pope representing Catholics. And I even have a lot of friends within the company that are Catholics that are like,
Starting point is 02:01:58 look, I don't necessarily agree with the Pope, but I'm a Catholic, but so you don't want to have somebody that's taking a position like that, but it is what it is. We'll see what's going to happen next with the position he's taking. Anyways, great podcast today, gang. Here's what we're going to do. I want you to go place an order and order Pete's book, The War on Warriors Pete. Thirty seconds, tell us about the book here, Behind the Betrayal of the New, the Men Who Keep Us Free.
Starting point is 02:02:27 You know, you served, the military is supposed to be a meritocracy. It's a meritocracy that can be lethal whenever we need it to. In the last 20 years it's been infected by ideologies that distract it from that intent. Whether it's woke stuff, social justice stuff, gender stuff, environmental stuff, the obsession with electric tanks, stuff that doesn't make us more lethal, that doesn't point toward Americanocracy and poisons the ranks. So I saw it firsthand. I joined the army to fight extremists. 20 years later, I was deemed an extremist because of a tattoo I have on my chest. And I left the military. I know scores and scores of guys who face the same thing on any number of issues. So I interviewed dozens of actively serving guys, gals, ranks, officers, and listed.
Starting point is 02:03:10 The feeling is pervasive that we're losing our military from what it was. A new commander in chief's got to do some dramatic things to bring it back. What's the tattoo? Now you got me thinking. It's a Jerusalem cross. So it's a religious tattoo. It has nothing to do with white nationalism or nationalism or extremism. It's a cross you'll see in Jerusalem when you visit. Christianity is near and dear to who I am.
Starting point is 02:03:31 It was after January 6th, I was in the DC National Guard. I was supposed to be guarding the inauguration. I had orders like everybody else. Remember, half the National Guard was there. And I quietly got a phone call from a member of my unit saying, your orders are revoked. You don't need to show up. And I said, why? He said, I can't tell you that right now, but you just don't need to be there. At that moment, I could tell it was something. Was it because I work at Fox? Was it because I like Donald Trump? What was it? Well, I found out when I was writing the book, when I was able to go back and ask the question, I was deemed an extremist by the leadership of my unit because of a tattoo. That's the
Starting point is 02:04:02 rationale that they use. And you'll meet phrases like patriot extremism, which are being used in our military. Gadsden flags, don't tread on me. Can't have those on military bases anymore. Oh, really? Yeah. Because it could be a sign of extremism. So you're going to learn a lot from the book, the war on warriors. I think it's certainly with your background, Pat, you'd I think you'd love it. Well, brother, thank you for your service. This book comes out June 4th. It's already written many, many New York Times. Go ahead and support the book.
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