PBD Podcast - “Poilievre Is Afraid!” – Maxime Bernier: The Truth About Trudeau, Carney & Canada’s PM Election | PBD Podcast | Ep . 564

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

Patrick Bet-David interviews Maxime Bernier of the People’s Party of Canada to discuss Justin Trudeau, Pierre Poilievre, mass immigration, conservative values, and how Canada can reclaim its future through bold leadership and independent thinking.------👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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But it is time to be serious. This country will be destroyed by mass immigration. Why is he loved by his party? Because when he did campaign, he was speaking like a real conservative. The impression to me is like you're running to daddy to protect from a bully. If we want to have a deal, we need to put that on the table. Carnet is the globalist in chief. What does it mean to be a Canadian?

Saying that we are putting Canada first, it's not a slogan for me. It's a reality. But for Poliev, it's an anti-slogan. I still don't know what it is to be Canadian. What is it to be Canadian? That is just absolutely embarrassing. And I understand Trump, and I'm ready to work with your president. We will do what is right.

We are the only hope for Canada. Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so excited to take sweet victory. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a 101?

My son's right there. I think I've said this before. All right, so here we go. So guys, a few weeks ago, I went on a rant about Pierre Polivier in Canada. And I called out the fact that he doesn't want to go sit with anybody. He's just waiting for this thing to happen to him and he's automatically going to be handing everything over and in the last couple days he's made a few comments about Trump and retweeted a video that we'll watch here together and get a reaction to. While that happened, a lot of Canadians were not happy with me. A lot were very furious with me.

But a lot were also in agreement saying, you know what, please hold them accountable and challenge them to get out there. But throughout that time, I ran a poll and a name was brought up to me. And they said, you have to look into Maxime Bernier. And I said, okay, great. You know, I started watching videos, content, we started following each other. And the next thing you know, we have Maxime Bernier here from the People Party of Canada. It's great to have you here. Thank you Patrick I'm very pleased to be here. That's a nice opportunity for me because as you may know in Canada

We may be in elections, you know couple in couple of days And so I'm traveling across the country and I'm not afraid to do podcasts and very pleased to be with you. I respect the fact that you're doing it. I think one of the things we watched in the US what happened was that Bobby Kennedy went to all the podcasts. Vivek went to all the podcasts. Trump with his son Baron saying, hey dad, let's go.

He went to all the podcasts, right? And Kamala didn't go. And Ron DeSantis went on ours, we had a great conversation, but some would have said, maybe you should have gone earlier, right? And a lot of the, Nikki Haley didn't wanna go. These guys didn't wanna go, they thought they were above it. And when I called out Pierre, a lot of Canadians says,

you don't understand, if he goes on a conservative podcast, what the left is gonna do, the left is gonna attack him if he goes on Rogan if he goes on this he goes on that's why in Canada is very different than America So walk me through the fear that conservatives have in Canada being so frightened of liberals holding them hostage You know poly heaven the conservatives and I said that long time ago that they are conservative in name only. They are the Reno Canadians. Conservative in name only. They are afraid. Why?

Because also in Canada, we are mainstream media, Radio Canada in French, CTV, CBC. They are all leftist. And actually, we don't have Fox News in Canada on the other side. So for me, the Canadian population has been manipulated by the leftist media. So Poliev is afraid of the reaction coming from the leftist media. But you know, he must understand as a politician, we are in 2025, and the future is with independent media, podcasters, and you must go out there and explain your platform but he doesn't want to do that also because he's afraid of the reaction yes of the mainstream media and also because he cannot have a discussion right now. We don't know what he

believes in right now. He's keeping secret his platform. We'll know that during the election. So now he's speaking only with slogan, and for me it's empty slogan. And you know, there's a lot of people, real conservative base, are not happy with him because now he's doing campaign not against the liberals, but against Trump. And you must know that in Canada, they did a survey before the presidential election and 65% of Canadians said in that survey that they will have voted for Harris and the Democrats. So for Poliev, he tried to pander to that leftist electorate and try to have their support.

By doing that, he's going away from real conservative values and the real conservative values, free market values, are not so popular today in Canada. So we need to be out there and to speak about our ideas. And that's what I'm doing as politicians. That's why I left. And I quit the Conservative Party of Canada in 2018. And I said that this party is morally and intellectually corrupt because they won't promote conservative ideas. And by doing that, they're giving credibility

to the leftist narrative. And that's what Poliev is doing now. And people are not happy with him like you. You're not happy with him because he's not doing his job as a real conservative and he's not. Yeah, to me, it's the reason why I respect Trump as much as I do, as well as Bobby Kennedy, anytime, any place, anywhere, and not afraid of the leftist media. And in America, you gotta respect that.

And when you looked at Kamala or some of the other guys, it wasn't anytime, anyplace, anywhere. It just was, it had to be controlled. Here's the questions you get to ask me. You better ask this, nothing more than this. So I wanna play the clip you and I were talking about earlier. This is Pierre playing a clip. Rob, if you can go to my Twitter account, go up a little

bit, a little bit, keep going. I think it's the one, two above. Go two above, two above, no, the other way, Rob. Go two above, right there. Go down to Ben & Jerry, go down to Ben & Jerry, it's right there. So go to Pierre's if you could, and let me just first read what he says and then I want to get your commentary on it. So he says, last night President Trump endorsed Mark Carney.

Why? Because as Trump said, he's easier to deal with and knows that I will be a tough negotiator and always put Canada first. Carney is weak and would cave to Trump's demands just like he did when he moved his company headquarters from Canada to New York City. Canadians don't want a weak and conflicted leader. They want a strong Prime Minister who will put Canada first. So now let me play the clip. Here's Trump. Rob, if you can play the clip of Trump, what he says here. Go for it. Isn't that going to make them more hostile to us and possibly

open the door for China closer to Canada? And that would really put us in a bind. The conservative that's running is stupidly no friend of mine. I don't know him, but he said negative things. So when he says negative things, I couldn't care less. I think it's easier to deal, actually, with a liberal. So when I posted this, Rob, go back to my tweet, because I want to show you what people said, okay? Just go to the bottom of the comments to show what Canadians said. So some people said, yeah right, if you can

go lower. I've been to Canada, I'm having some, okay, Maxime Bernier is the only politician in Canada that can actually understand this. Pierre has never had an actual job outside of politics. He's a world economic forum, you and a party show through and through. He's a useless whatever whatever politician, he's no leader. You're wrong here Pat. Trump is doing Polivier a favor by saying he'd prefer liberals This is an endorsement for the PP his policies do exactly what Trump wants energy pipelines oil Canada's got a lot of those things Polyvian carney are hood ornaments. Do you have any suggestions on a serious note? Thanks for saying PM and not governor Patrick

I think Trump understands this endorsement especially framed in the term of being a pushover will hurt Carney. He is mitigating the side effect that his tariff policy was driving up liberal support. Pierre has to posture to keep that illusion alive. Who's right here? I think that President Trump is right because Poliev right now and the liberals,

Carney, are the same on the most important issues for the future of our country. And we can go on on these issues later. And right now, you know, for me, it's a Lib-Con party. And so, you know, instead of and people in Canada now, if you look in the polls, again, it's a bad news, but the liberals are ahead right now and the election may be called as soon as in a couple of days. Why? Because Poliev is a liberal light and instead of voting conservative liberal light, they will vote for the real liberal and the real liberal is Carney. So for Trump, dealing with Carney or dealing with

Poliev is the same. And so we are very different as a political party. We are this populist political party, a little bit like Trump. And on a lot of policies, our party is in line with Trump. On tariffs, we can have a discussion about that. We have a different position than Poliev, but Poliev is doing the war against Trump using tariffs and imposing tariffs and taxes on us Canadians. And for him, like I told you in the beginning, because Trump is not popular in Canada, and I think he thinks that by being against Trump, that will help him in Canada.

But the most important is the policies and is very disappointing on that. Okay so let's go through it. So let's take what percentage of Canada are conservatives? Conservatives, yeah specifically conservatives, what would you say? Well you have Western Canada, Alberta, you know Alberta, Western Canada, you know right now there's about a big you know 40% of the population that are conservatives that we are ready to vote Conservative okay, so of the 40% and by the way Conservative conservative including us we are the real conservative for sure you and Pierre whatever party those two conservative party You're saying there's about 40% of them of the 40% of

Voters in Canada that are conservative. conservative, what percentage of them like Trump? If you look, they did a survey in Canada for people who voted for the conservative and will vote for Poliev. 25% of his base like Trump, 25% of his voters. For me, it's about 50% of my voters who like Trump. And now by doing that, his goal is to split the liberal vote, to go ahead and to split the liberal vote, but it's at a big risk of losing his base, 25% of his base. And so for us, we can grow there, but for us, our growth will come from non-voters. There's 40% of the population who didn't vote at the last

election. And they don't vote because they don't like these establishment political parties and Poliev and Carney and Trudeau. So we are the option, the new option for them. So our growth can be coming from these non-voters that may come and vote for us. Okay, so for his base, out of the 40%, you said 25% like Trump, 75% don't like Trump. Okay, from your base, 50% like... At least 50%. But we don't do any polling, we don't do any focus groups.

You're assuming. So it could be 60-70%. Okay, from the conservatives that don't like Trump, why don't they like, what about Trump do they not like in his policies? But now it's the tariff. Trump, because of the mainstream media, they are saying, oh, Trump is against Canada, Trump wants to invade our country. Trump wants our country to be the 51st state. So they're nationalists and they believe that the mainstream media and the liberals and the conservative like that, like the fact that Trump said, we will be or we may be or that would be great if we

are the 51st state they like it because now they say no we are defending the sovereignty of our country but all that you know it's just when Trump is saying that for me he's not serious he's just you know having fun against our leaders he knows that we don't like it he's using that telling our Prime Minister you know the the governor of Canada. It's if you, and I did read his book, you know, The Art of a Deal, and that's the way he's doing deals. Discredit his opponent and he's doing that and using that, but in Canada it's good for the Liberals. They are saying we are the defender of the country, but they are not their policy will be very bad for the country

And I said politically and you know when i'm doing uh interviews that we are the only hope for canada If our policies are not adopted or not Be adopted in parliament this country is going nowhere You know we need to change that and we have bold policies that are in line and when I'm saying that we are putting Canada first and our country first, it's not a slogan for me, it's a reality but for Paulier it's an empty slogan. So in 2018 when you left the Conservative Party who was Paulier? Who was he at the time? Did he have credibility? Was he famous? Did he already have influence or no?

No. So for me, I'm not a career politician. I did work 19 years in the financial sector in Montreal. I did good money over there. 2006, I jumped into politics with Harper and I was a Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Industry. And Paulier was elected at that time. Paulier was elected at 24 years old, never had a real boss. He's for the last 20 years, his job is to be a politician. And he's a lifelong politician. Oh yeah, absolutely. No private sector experience.

Ever? No, no. Before 24, nothing. 24 years old, I think the first job was working in an MP office in Ottawa. NPR office in Ottawa. Yeah, working with a member of parliament in Ottawa in his office. Got it. So it's always been politics.

Zero free enterprise, free market experience. OK, so this guy is doing politics by survey focus group. And, you know, he tried to please everybody. But when you do that, you're not able to win. Can you give an example of that? When you say he tries to please everybody, what example? you have? On mass immigration, in Canada we have mass immigration right now and that's destroying our social fabric. You know, we had more than 1.2 million foreigners coming to our country. And you know, for a country of 40 million

people, that's a lot. Actually, you know, the growth of our population last year was 3.2 percent and the average growth of population in the western countries was 0.2 percent and 97 percent of our population growth is coming from immigration. So if you go like that for a couple of years, that's the replacement, you know, theory, but in practice in Canada. So for him, he's not speaking about that. He's okay with mass immigration like the Liberals, and we are not. We are the only party that is saying we need to have a pause on immigration, you know, a moratorium on immigration, because, you know, that is affecting economically Canadians.

Our standard of living is going down. Inflation is up. And we have ghettos in our country. People are not integrating into our society. So it's a big mess and we need to have that pause. So what I'm telling you is pandering to the ethnic communities like Trudeau. So Poliev is doing the same game because in some writings in Canada to win and to have a majority, you know in Toronto for example, there's a lot of writings over there,

seat over there, more than in Alberta. So and that region there's a lot of immigrants and they want to have more of their friends coming to Canada. So Poliev is pandering to them to be sure to win these writings, knowing that the majority of the population don't want that mass immigration anymore. But he's not listening to them because for him he's working writing by writing and he need to seat by seat which seat he will be able to win to be in government. So it's interesting you're saying that while I'm pulling this up by the way in 2018 Who was he somebody?

Yeah in 2018 when you left the cons was he a upcoming guy or not yet? Not yet. Not yet. No, no, no Did he become a superstar? Only two years ago when he decided to run to because the other leader who too was a real leftist You know, I did. The Conservative Party. For so, so you know, I was in politics in 2006 and 2015, Harper didn't win. 2017, we had a leadership contest in the Conservative Party. I did run. I had 49% of the vote, didn't win.

Sheer was the leader at that time. I resigned from the Conservative Party in 2018 and Shire was the leader in 2019. We had a general election, the Liberal-Wand, and after Shire they had another leadership contest, the Conservatives, they put O'Toole, and O'Toole was a real, you know, leftist guy, and after that they put Poliev, and Poliev was a star because he was good with videos, and I must admit he's a good communicator, and so he was good with videos. And I must admit, he's a good communicator. And so he was good. And during the leadership contest,

he was speaking like a real conservative to be sure to win the base. So he was speaking like a real conservative. But after that, when he won, he went to the left and to try to please two more people in Canada. And so answering your question, he became to be popular maybe only three years ago.

So Aaron O'Toole. Yeah, was a leader before him. And then it was Andrew Scheer. I lost my leadership against him. You lost your leadership against him. In 2017. So when they chose him, you said, I'm out. And you started your own thing.

I'll tell you, you know, 49% of the members of the Conservative Party did vote for me. So after that leadership contest I did work 15 months for with Andrew Scheer as my leader but I had a private meeting with him and 15 months later he told me and I want to I want him to take some of my policies and ideas. They were very popular with the membership. So we had a meeting and he said, Maxime, you're right. Your ideas are very popular with the membership of the Conservative Party of Canada, but I

won't take any of your ideas because now I want to be prime minister of Canada and your ideas are not popular with the population. So at the next election in 2019 forget your ideas so that's why I read it. He's saying that to you face to face in a one-on-one meeting. Is this public information when he said this to you? Yeah but I'm putting that public. We've never said this before so in one-on-one he's telling you because your policies are not popular I won't take any of you. Because he wants to be a prime minister. Yeah, and they're doing politics by polling and survey. And I said, I don't have to waste my time here.

And that's why I resigned in 2018 after 15 months when he won the leadership. When he told me that, I resigned. And I took these ideas and we created the People's Party based on these ideas. And this party is growing now but they don't want to speak about something that is not that popular today so that's why they're conservative in name only. How close is he to Pierre? Sheer now? Sheer. He's number three with him now. So they're close? Oh yeah they're close friends. Yeah okay so they're close friends again I'm trying to get smarter I don't know Canadian politics. O'Toole, is he close with Pierre?

O'Toole resigns, he's not a member of parliament anymore. He's in the private sector. So forget it. So is he any name in politics in Canada or not really? Nobody mentions O'Toole? No, no, no. He doesn't have endorsement. He doesn't carry weight. Yeah. Okay. When is the last time you and Pierre had interaction together? When I was a conservative. When I was a conservative, so 2015. How was that interaction with him? Yeah, good, good.

You know, Pierre and I, we had good conversation and at that time when I was a conservative, he was pushing in the caucus privately, conservative reform, but now because he's the leader and so you know he forgot all that. But I must admit that you know Stephen Harper was prime minister and I was working with him. Stephen Harper was a libertarian and less government, but he did the biggest deficit

of the history of our country during the financial crisis. And so Stephen Harper had a majority and he didn't use the majority to implement bold reforms and Stephen Harper was a good manager of a big fat government and Poliev would be the same if he was prime minister. Is Stephen Harper respected and loved in Canada or no? Yeah, now after he resigned and I think so, with the conservatives in Canada. And Stephen Harper is giving advice to Paulier right now. And Pierre, so Paulier is following his footsteps.

Oh yeah, absolutely. Okay, so, alright, so that's good to know. So a couple things here when you said immigration. I want to show you something with immigration which was shocking to me when I pulled up the data. So I looked at what countries most residents, new permanent residents are coming into Canada because the number starts around 2022. Rob, if you can show up the data that shows the spike in immigration, it's that one right

there. So you look at this. The net international migration from 1952 to 2023 you're getting some people coming in Maybe two hundred thousand on average hundred thousand on average all of a sudden boom Yeah, one point two and a half million, and I looked at the numbers in 2022. Yeah The number one country that migrants immigrants came in from 27 percent was Indians under 19 Yeah, China's number two then Afghanistan Nigeria Philippines France Pakistan Iran, 118. China is number two then, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Philippines, France, Pakistan, Iran, US, then Syria.

This is 2022. 2023, India, China, Philippines, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Pakistan, Cameroon, Eritrea, Iran, US. 2024, India, Philippines, China, Cameroon, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, France. Okay. Then I pulled up a number just to kind of see. In Canada, in 1991, according to the Canadian census, the Muslim population in Canada was 0.9%.

The Muslim population today in Canada is 5%, okay? That's based on your census that you have. You're right about it. And then the other number that was also shocking is in 2023 population grew by 1.27 million in Canada. Of the people that grew, the number of kids that you guys had that contributed to the 1.27 million was only 2.4%. 97.6% were people that came in from other countries.

That's not necessarily a growth that some people would call that an invasion. A replacement. Right, replacement could be one of them. So how different are your policies versus Poliev's when it comes on to this? Poliev is okay with mass immigration. His number right now is 250 foreigners every year, starting when he is Prime Minister. 250 minister 250 000 for us it's zero no more we need we are not able to uh integrate them into our society uh you know and that's destroying our social fabric the countries that you just quote uh you know a lot of them are not sharing western

civilization values and we you know we don't do any screening. We must change that. When we will reopen to immigration, we need to have a face-to-face interview with them. We don't have that anymore. We need to be sure that they share Canadian values. In Canada, don't forget also, we have a legislation in Canada, and the federal government is promoting multiculturalism. So we are

saying to people come to our country, keep your culture and you know everything is okay. If you don't integrate into our society it's okay. So we have Indian ghettos in BC, Burnaby. We have ghettos also in Brenton, Ontario and there's no incentive for them to come and to integrate into our society. And actually before that we were asking them to speak at least English or French. We have two official languages in Canada, English and French. That was a condition a couple of years ago to come to Canada to be an immigrant and now it's not anymore.

So they don't speak the language, they're going in a ghetto. They don't integrate. That's changing the social fabric of our country. But Poliev won't speak about that. He's pandering to these ethnic communities to have votes in different writings and more seats. So that's what he's doing. That is part of his strategy because now, you know, all these immigrants that are coming, they're foreigners, they will vote conservative or they will vote liberal. But if you do a big survey, you know, 65% of the population is okay to end mass immigration in Canada, and also a majority of immigrants, but older immigrants, people who came here 15 years ago, because it was tough for them to come here. They had to speak

English and French and they have to prove that they will have a job. It was tough for them to come here. They had to speak English and French and they have to prove that they will have a job. It was tough, it took them maybe years. And now they're looking at that. Everybody can come in Canada with no screening, nothing. It's unfair and they don't want that and they're right about it. Yeah, that makes sense.

And by the way, when you're speaking about to the audience in Canada, what comparison are you making? What comp? Meaning, let's just say if I'm buying a house, and I say, I'm going to buy this house for $900,000, but Mr. Realtor, what are the comps on the property? The guy next door sold for $820,000. The house next door sold for $817,000.

The house next door is at similar size to you sold $805,000. It's not really a $900,000 house. It's really an $815,000 house. Okay, great. I'm getting comps. What country, when you guys are looking, what Canada can turn into if it goes this way the next 5, 10, 15, 20 years, what do you see happening if they don't change their immigration policies? If we don't change our immigration policy, you know, our standard of living will go down. Right now, the impact of mass immigration on housing, like you just said, you know,

it's scary what's going on with real estate. Yeah, it's scary. You know, a young family cannot buy a house downtown Toronto, downtown Montreal or downtown Vancouver. And the solution for that, it's a question of, you know, supply and demand. And my solution, it's just cut the demand. All these people need a roof and you need to stop that. But for Polier, we said we need to build more houses. But actually, 10 years ago, we were building in Canada about

250,000 houses a year, 10 years ago. And now we are still building 250,000 houses a year. And Statistic Canada said that just to match the demand, we need to build 700,000 houses a year. So that's not the solution for the housing crisis in our country. The solution is to have that moratorium on immigration. And I'm not speaking about, you know, the fact that the center of, you know, the pie, the economy, economic pie is growing in Canada because you have so many people, but the GDP per capita is going down. So our piece of the pie is smarter yet because the population is growing faster than the GDP. So all that mass immigration created, you know, the fact that we are poor for the last 10 years, we didn't grow. Our GDP per capita didn't grow.

So that's why people are okay with ending mass immigration. But I'm the only one who's speaking about that in Canada. Yeah, and the question I want to come back to is because Canada is number two country in lumber in the world. I think you guys are behind Russia and the average house right now is $786,000. Who the hell can afford that? Let's come back to that, but I want to talk to you still on case studies. When I was looking at what Poland did, Dominik Tarczynski, where he said nobody can come here, they're not for immigration, and they don't want to go by the demands that EU has with what happened

with UK, of course, UK Brexit. There's a fellow who had a video that went viral in Canada talking about Sharia law. I want to share this with you, I want to get your thoughts to see how people in Canada feel about this. Is this even a concern that other families are bringing up? Rob, if you don't mind playing this clip, it'd be great. Go for it. By 2016, Muslims will be the biggest religious group the world over. What are you going to do then? Do you think you'll oppose Sharia even then? If we have families, we are making

babies, you're not. Our population is going down the slump. One day we can have a Muslim majority nation here in Canada right in your face. You say that you want Sharia law to displace Canadian law. That doesn't sound very respectful. In majority you wouldn't have any other option my friend. Islam doesn't endorse gayism. Islam doesn't endorse homosexuality. The gay people are doing this against the commandments of God. We have Canadian law here and you say that you want Sharia law to displace Canadian law. That doesn't sound very respectful. You can posit that.

Is this a concern in Canada that Canada can turn into the next UK of the West? Not now. Not now, but when I'm speaking I'm telling that to people. Like in France, there's no go zone over there. In UK also, because of mass immigration and the non-integration of these immigrants. But it's coming more and more. People are fed up more and more. About this specific topic, because the Muslim population in Canada has grown from 1991

till now from 0.9% to 5%. That's 500%. That's a big growth that they've had. Is that a concern because those powers... It's becoming a concern. For example, in Toronto, now they're a pressure group. The Muslim community are pressuring provincial governments to adopt some laws, financial law that will be in line with their philosophy to be as you know they cannot pay interest.

So there's kind of an arrangement and some regulations at the provincial level to allow them to be able to have a mortgage without paying any interest. So they are coming more and more influential politically. The answer is yes. But in the main population, that's not a real concern. The real concern is mass immigration now. There's no focus. But we need radical Islam is present in Canada.

That ideology is there. We need to fight that for sure. What is this Rob, they just pulled up? This is a chart showing from 2001 to 2021, just in 20 years, that the Muslim population in Canada has more than doubled from 2.1% to 2.0% to 4.9% across the country. Yeah, how is crime in Canada? I'm curious. Oh my god, very bad. Very bad because for Trudeau, it was not tough on crimes and we did pass legislation when I was a conservative at that time to be really tough on crime but now crimes in big cities are, I don't have the data but if you look at the statistics they're doubled at what they were 10 years ago. So yeah, you can see that in Canada.

It's doubled from you said from? Yeah, the last 10 years. And this okay. So is that a is that a? And that's a concern actually. And that's why I'm very pleased. What President Trump did. President Trump decided to actually wow.

Look at that. Yeah. When did Trudeau get elected? 2015. Look at that. Yeah. 2015. Oh my God. Yeah. And Trump, what I like from Trump is that, you know, protect your borders, be sure to fight crimes and all these drug traffickers. And now after nine years, Trudeau decided and the Liberal government decided to do that. But we needed Trump to push our government to work for Canadians. You know, the first role of a leader of a country is to protect your population.

You know, the government, the first role of a government is the safety of their own citizens. And the Liber liberals did zero, yet the last nine years and now because of Trump, now the federal government is investing and fighting crimes. It's new, but it's coming. But look, that's the after. By the way, to be to you mentioned Stephen Harper, right? You said Stephen Harper.

So Stephen Harper was prime minister from 06 till 15. Yes. Right. Go back to that chart, Rob. So if you go from 2006, declined from what it was to... What did he do to lower crime the way that he did in Canada? That's very impressive. Yeah, we passed legislation and actually, but the bad thing is all our legislation that we passed at that time, you know, minimum sentences and things like that.

The Supreme Court of Canada said it's unconstitutional. So a couple of years later, you know, these legislation are not in force anymore. And Trudeau was happy with that. And look what happened. Wow. Okay. So let's go back to real estate. Real estate in Canada, you said the current, you know, we've been building 250,000

on average, the last house is the last, I think the number was, whatever it was 10 years ago, it's what you're doing today. It's the same number. It's the same number today, yes. But the average property value right now in Canada, we looked at the number was $786,000 for single-family homes. That amazes me. In big cities, Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, not in little cities, but yeah, that's very exciting. What does it say here? Right there, so if you look at the average selling price

of a home in Canada increased by 0.1%, you're over your 709, the average selling price of a single-family home in Canada increased to 786. When you look at the amount of supply and things that you have, why hasn't somebody in the last 10 years emphasized investing in building more to be able to lower pricing so when a new family is getting married, having kids, they can't afford to buy $786,000?

And actually, there's a link also with our birthrate, you know, because they did a survey with young family and one of the reason why they decided not to have kids, it's because they want to have a home before. And actually that was personally, I had two daughters and yes me and my ex-wife decided to buy a house before having kids. So they cannot buy a house and they're not having kids. So that's another relation. But why, if you ask me why, we must ask the Liberal government. There's a lot of regulations also in big cities and so there's no incentive for provinces to cut down on regulations and if you want to build something in a big city in Canada

and to have all the permits it can take months so that's another big problem that we have. Rob can you pull up the birth rate in Canada I just pulled it up right now I'm looking at it Canada's fertility rate is amongst the lowest in the world placing it in the lowest of the low category with a rate of 1.26, right now you have it at 1.33, I have it at 1.26, children born per woman in 2023, that's a 2022 rate, joining countries like South Korea, Spain, Italy and Japan. So the logic for, that's the logic for mass immigration, they're saying our birth rate is going down, let's bring all these people. But you know, these people are not young. Usually they're, you know, they're about you know, an average of I don't know, 30 years old or something like that. They're

not so young. And so we that's not the solution. The solution is easy. Could cut that mass immigration do all these bold reform balance the, cut taxes, being sure to give more money in the pockets of these families, and they would be able to have a kid if they want to. Yeah, that is scary to think about the birth rate. By the way, I just pulled up a number to see if it can break down what percentage, it's not breaking down percentages, it's telling me numbers on what age they are, the people that are coming in. But birth rate, let's go to that. But they are not so young.

So StatStick Canada, I think they did a survey about that. StatStick Canada, average age of immigrants, something like that. With the FIZ loyalty program, you get rewarded just for having a mobile plan. You know, for texting and stuff. And if you're not getting rewards like extra data and dollars off with your mobile plan, you're not with Fizz. Switch today. Conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca. I'm portion of Canada does export some of 25 to 54 the median age of me. Oh wow. Yeah, so wow That's not the seven years old. Yeah, that's not the solution. They're not gonna have kids 47 year old

Wow, and and you told us a country where they're coming from. They're not coming from Europe or from, you know, AmeriCard or countries. They're coming from, that's why I tweeted and I said that, you know, when you import third world people coming from third world countries, your country will become a third world country. And that's what is happening. That's changing the social fabric of our country. And that's why populist movement in UK in France in Germany are growing because of

immigration and that's the same thing here in Canada. Yeah I just pulled this up I asked the question saying why does Canada have such a low birth rate and it says economic factors yeah housing in cities like Toronto Vancouver Montreal yeah job market many young Canadians struggle for job security, high student debt. But now with mass immigration, we are importing cheap labor. And so that's a problem. We said in India, we had a lot of fake students coming from India.

They came here, they had a fake diploma. And usually when you are an international student, you come here, you study and you leave after that. You're going back to a country of origin. They don't want to leave. They use that to be permanent residence and after the diploma they want to stay here and Poliev and Trudeau said okay we'll give you the permanent residency. So these people are cheating, they don't want to go back to their country. And Poliev and the liberals are saying it's okay, we'll give you a gift. You don't respect our legislation, but we will give you a gift. We will give you permanent residency. That's the position of these.

Is that really his position? Yeah. Is really Poliev's position is permanent residency for anybody that's come the last three years are getting permanent residence? That's to solve the international students that are coming to Canada. They want to stay and it's pandering to them. And look, you know, international students from India. What's the title say Rob? I'm not sure if it's the right article. The liberal sign signaling, the radical out of control NDP, liberal government has destroyed

our central center. I want to know what he says about making them permanent residents. Yeah, he said that for the students. I don't know for the international students. He said he's gonna make the India international students, they will have the right. He said they will have the right to work here more than 10 hours a week and they will have the right to stay here after that. So that's what he wants but actually these and you can find a video of me speaking with an international student in PI and they did protests all across the country and I said in his face, you know after your diploma if you don't leave the country We will deport you and I said that you know, I don't know a video from this one here Go for it. be deported when you'd be expired. This is why. No, no, they won't be deported. You just said that

when he's going to be expired, they will be deported. They will be legalizing their state. No deportation will be needed in that moment. But we will need deportation. That's why you need to have full knowledge. You are a leader. I think you should have a full knowledge before you get here. No, I have a full knowledge. I'm saying when the permit is expired, you must be deported. You are saying my permit is expired. It isn't. No, no, if it's not, but it will be in a couple of weeks or in a couple of months. I can extend it. I hope they won't because we don't need you. They will.

No, we don't need you here in this country. How can you decide it? For example, listen to me. There's young Canadians that can work at Tim Hortons. Then they can, I'm not working at Tim Hortons. Unbelievable, the level of audacity to say that. They think that they have the right to stay here. Nowadays, more than ever, the brand you wear

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There's gonna be a special VT gift insight just for you So again go to VT merge comm place your order tell the world that you believe the future looks bright And where was that fellow from? Where was he from? India. He's from India? Oh yeah. That's number one, where it's coming from. Yeah, absolutely.

So what would you do? And also don't forget, universities and colleges are using that for financing their operation because they're paying more fees to come here than Canadians. It's more expensive for them than Canadians. So actually some universities are very happy with that. It's a way because the federal government and provincial governments are cutting funding to universities. So they use the international students to finance their operations. So that's also, and I told you, university, no, you know, you won't use that trick to be able to have more money.

Just raise your fees if you want to. So okay, so what is your solution on two things? What are you going to do to fix immigration and what are you going to do to increase birth rate because the economy is what you got to address for families to decide to want to have kids. How are you going to address those two issues? So first, the moratorium on immigration, no more immigrants. so that's important. Second, that's all about the economy. So we want to balance the budget in Canada. We can do that in one year. We will cut

foreign aid, eight billion dollars, we'll save that. We'll cut corporate subsidies, ten billion dollars. Our deficit in Canada this year is sixty two billion dollars, so we can achieve that. Poliev is not speaking about that because it's not popular to speak about cutting. We will cut, we'll have a smaller government in Canada. We'll have our Canadian dodge. You know, I said that in 2020 that you know we need to have a department of downsizing the government. I said that in 2020. So we will do that, we'll balance the budget, we'll lower taxes, we'll have a flat tax on business at 15%. We will, we have five tax brackets in Canada right now on your income. We'll go down to three and the goal is go down to one. So reforming the federal government, downsizing the federal

government, respecting our Constitution. Right now the federal government is a big fat government, interfering in provincial jurisdiction and provincial autonomy. We'll do that. We'll be able and have you know, we have also a capital gains tax in Canada. We will cut that. No more capital gains tax in Canada. So lowering taxes and we don't have a real free trade in Canada. You know, this country has been built in 1867 and the reason that we exist as a country first was to have an economic union in Canada to be able to compete against you guys in the South. That was the idea to have an economic union and now we don't have that. There are trade barriers between

provinces so we need to have a real economic union. We need to work about that. We need also to develop our natural resources. In my own province in Quebec, there's a moratorium on the development of shale gas, for example. And we need to be real pro-market and be able to develop natural resources. To do that, we need to withdraw from the Paris Accord. But Poliev is okay with that. Poliev, I must admit, he won't impose a carbon tax to Canadian consumers, but he will impose more regulations on businesses, he will give subsidies to the grain industry, because he will do everything to achieve the Paris Accord targets. We won't, we will withdraw from that like President Trump. So yes, we need to have that big and bold reforms at the federal level to be sure to have a smarter government, being able to

lower taxes and be giving more money in pockets of families. How do you, because when I watch how he manages the relationship with President Trump. And you see President Trump saying what he's saying about Mark Carney. And how are you able to manage working with the president when the president is saying Canada, 51st state, are you at all even open to the idea of Canada, 51st state? Or that's just, he's just toying with you, that's kinda how you view it. But what is your approach?

Unless just say you end up becoming a prime minister what do you what is your approach going to be on dealing with President Trump I'm not open to the 51st state you know I'm doing like Trump in Canada I'm fighting for Canadians and for the sovereignty of our country I'm putting my people first so the way to deal with President Trump it it's, you know, you need to right now we have a free trade agreement between us, the US and Mexico, and that that will will have to be reopened in 2026. We need to reopen that free trade agreement right now was president at his first term and he wanted to for your dairy producers to be able for them to export their milk in Canada but because we have a cartel a system called the supply management you know our dairy poultry and eggs

producers are producing only for the Canadian market they cannot export and they are fixing the price. They call that supply management. It's a legal cartel. So and Trump was not so happy at the last negotiation because you know we said no we want you know we have to protect the cartel and we want open our borders to your milk cheese and eggs. So we need to put that on the table. But Poliev and Trudeau, they want to protect the cartel. They're very influential. Actually, you know, they did buy membership cards of the Conservative Party of Canada when I

was running to be the leader to be sure that I won't win because I said at that time, 10 years ago, we need to abolish that cartel. And it would be good for Canadian consumers because we are paying twice the price if we compare that price with prices in the US for meal, poultry, and eggs because of that cartel. So let's put that on the table. And the only one who's saying that, we will be able to have a good deal.

And Trump said, you know, if you're imposing tariff, I will impose tariff. If you withdraw your tariff tariff I will do the same I believe in free trade let's do a real free trade but right now there's 300% tariffs on the milk and you cannot export your milk in Canada because you won't be competitive with that tariff or 300% but it's not only with milk it's a lot of other products we don't have a free trade between Canada and the US. We have a managed trade. Trump wants to have a fair relationship.

Let's abolish all these tariffs. It would be good for us and good for you. So first, put everything on the table. Be sure to reinvest to protect our borders. Be sure to reinvest also in our own defense. We are not doing that. We need to at least spend 2% of our GDP in our defense. We're not doing that. It's maybe 1.2% or something like that. We need also to have a new defense relationship with the U.S. And you know Trump is

a little bit concerned about the North, our border in the North with Russia and the Arctic. We need to be sure we don't have a base over there as Canadians. So we need to invest there, we need to protect and have a new agreement, defense agreement with you guys. So we can do that. If we do that, I'm pretty sure that we'll have a good deal. When Trump is speaking about,

Governor Trudeau or 51st state, is for me, you know, it won't happen, it's not serious. But what I understand also, he wants to bring back manufacturing industry in the US, including, you know, businesses from Canada. So what we have to do as a country, we need to have, you know, economic policies that would be more competitive.

So our income tax on business is too high. So let's let the free market decide. But I want to compete with the US and I want our businesses to be able to compete with you guys, but now they're not able. That's why there's tariffs. So we need to lower tax on business, cut capital gains tax, less regulation, and like that's the only way to build our country and to be competitive. So with regards to him getting closer to Carney when he's talking about coming to tariffs, what are Canadians saying that Mark did to get Trump to feel more comfortable doing a deal with him than with Pierre? Why is he feeling more comfortable with Mark instead of for a polio? I think because first

You know Poliev is speaking about you know a bigger Trade war with us poliev is the first one who said, we must impose dollar for dollar tariffs. And now Carney is going away from that. Carney and the liberal did impose 25% tariffs on us, on Canadians. Don't forget, the 25% tariffs that Trump is imposing right

now, it's on American businesses and American consumers. They're the one who will pay for that. Our products would be less competitive, but at the end, that's American consumers who are paying for that. So what we did, countered tariffs, 25%, and that was a bad idea. I was the only leader to say,

you must not impose that. We cannot win a trade war with the US, and you know, that would be our consumers Canadian businesses and Canadians consumers who will pay for that it's another tax on Canadians. So Carney did impose that with the Liberals but Carney said recently he said you know I won't go dollar for dollar because he said what I'm saying right now you know and what I said before, we cannot compete against the US in a trade war. But Poliev is more, you know, anti-gut, he is

more against Trudeau, sorry, not Trudeau, but Trump, and he wants to go ahead and impose more tariffs. So maybe that's why also Trump doesn't like him. And isn't Mark's background, like like was he with the Bank of London? Who was he with? He had a financial background right? Goldman Sachs, Bank of Canada, so he knows how to make deals so maybe Trump feels more comfortable talking to a business guy than a guy that's a career politician like Pierre. Yeah you have a point there. Got it, that's interesting. But also, Carnet is the globalist in chief. Carnet was the special envoy for the UN on the climate action and finance. So, Carnet is a big believer in climate change, and he's a big globalist also, we must admit that. But yes, he was in the private sector, he's a business guy, so maybe Trump thinks that

he will be able to have a better deal with a guy that knows business. Does Pierre have a history of being able to make deals and be a diplomat and negotiate with others and get people from across the aisle to want to talk to him and get deals done or no? No, he wasn't. What is his biggest accomplishment? What's Pierre's biggest accomplishment? He was a junior. Can you put that on Pierre Poliev? He was a junior minister in the upper government. I was industryiev was a junior minister. Look at it. He was minister for...

Do you see it, Robert? No. Junior minister under President Stephen Harper. Minister for Democratic Reform. He had little and junior portfolio. So he was not Foreign Affairs, he was not Industry Minister, big portfolio, he was not Finance Minister. Yeah, I'm just trying to find out what is his biggest accomplishment? Why is he loved by his party? respected the way he is Because when he did campaign for the leadership of the conservative party He was speaking like a real conservative and it and he was very popular, you know on social media

He was he's very good to do little videos and you know So he was very popular there and they thought that Poliev is a real conservative and now they're very disappointed. Got it yeah I just typed it up it says becoming a leader of the conservative party 2022 68% opposition to carbon tax advocating for economy and housing reform is axe the tax and build more home. Yeah but axe the tax it's funny because the liberals and Carney said okay we will axe the tax and build more homes. Yeah, but axe the tax is funny because the liberals and Carney said, OK, we will axe the tax. Poliev did ask for an election based on the carbon tax, axe the tax.

He wanted that the main subject during the campaign must be axe the carbon tax. But now Carney said he did it. Carney said, you know, the carbon tax won't exist for Canadian consumers. And I'm saying, you know, no more taxes, no more regulation, we must withdraw from the Paris Accord. I'm the only one. But the election must be on immigration, like you just show us, you know, everything that this country will be destroyed by mass immigration. And that must be the subject of the campaign. So you know, when President Trump talks about 51st state making Canada the 51st state I sit there at first I'm like is he trolling? Is he serious? Is he playing? Is he trying to get under your skin?

Is he trying to make you upset? Let's just say he is right and then I sit there not you know, don't put the tariffs It's not fair to this. It's not fair to that and you go to military expenditure You said it earlier a minute ago Canada's military expenditures 1.2 1.3 percent nothing You know don't put the tariffs. It's not fair to this. It's not fair to that and you go to military expenditure You said it earlier a minute ago Canada's military expenditures 1.2 1.3 percent nothing right We have a woke that's a woke Canadian forces You know they're promoting because of the color of your skin and your sexual orientation the leadership of the Canadian forces is Woke right now who is the leader at the top? That's woke. By it's a lady, that was a lady a couple of years ago.

I don't know, but they're woke. They're promoting woke-ism in that organization. The lady before, now it's a guy. Janine Carrigan, Carrigan, is that one? Yeah, and she's still there. I think she's- Is this the one, Jenny? Yeah, and she's still there. I think she is this the one Jenny Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Jenny. So she was a

Personally the current chief defensive and I can't even she was appointed. Yeah, the first woman there. She's there because she's a lady That's it, you know, she's there because she's a lady for sure, you know So so but what do you do? So you reform the leadership of the Canadian forces first and you reinvest in our defense. How weak is your military? You don't have, I mean, Canada is not known for military, right? No, you know, I was foreign minister when we had that war in Afghanistan. And, you know, I travel in Europe to ask my counterparts, other foreign affairs ministers, please, please help us in Afghanistan. We don't have any resources. We need more planes. We need help in Afghanistan. And so we were asking for help in Europe and other countries to be sure to be at

least efficient in Afghanistan. So no, we don't have We're a very weak Canadian Canadian forces ranked as 28 you're behind countries like Algeria Thailand Singapore Greece is right next to you Meaning they're ranked 30 years Singapore's 29. I like our self We can yeah, so can I say so if I'm if when I hear that, you know what it makes me think about? It upsets me because it makes me think about that Canada, just because they're neighbors with America and America is so strong in military, they don't need to invest into the military. So guess what? No one's going to attack us because America's our neighbor.

They're not going to mess with us. So that causes me, if I'm Trump, to say, yeah, that's why you're going to become the 51st state or I'm going to put tariffs on you. So I'm actually really curious to know how the negotiations gonna go with Trump the next three, six, 12 months, because if everything you guys produce, if we can make in America and bring those jobs back,

and he puts his foot down and Mark, Pierre, somebody fumbles, this could be catastrophic for Canadians. Absolutely catastrophic for Canadians. But that's why I'm saying we are the last hope for this country. We have the right economic policies, you know, I think I know what we can do to have a good deal with Trump, but he's right about that. We are taking for granted our defense. We are saying, oh, the US is there, let's not, and you know, we need to be serious about that. And I said that, I don't know how many times,

but it is time to be serious. And that's why we need to cut all these programs. You know, we are giving money in other countries to promote woke ideology, the trans ideology. We are spending money and money that first of all, we don't have with our deficit. So let's be serious. And you know, I'm all, we don't have with our deficit. So let's be serious.

And, you know, I'm honest and telling Canadians, yes, we have to cut the budget. We will be able to do that. It can be, you know, difficult, but let's do it if we want to go ahead and have prosperity in Canada. You know, I just had a conversation with Ron Paul, like right before you. Ron Paul and I did a one hour podcast together. Oh, that's great. I had the privilege to have a dinner with Ron Paul when I was in parliament.

He came in Ottawa. He's amazing. He's a great guy. He's phenomenal. Yeah. And you know, when you ask him what is it to be a libertarian, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You ask, you know, what is it to be an American?

I'm proud to be an American, or at least I know I'm free, right? And then you kind of, you can sell America, right? What does it mean to be a Canadian? We are not American. What does that mean? But not, what are you guys? What is Canadian? That's what maybe Canadians, you know, we are not American, we are Canadians. So okay, if we are not American, we are, you know, more for social programs, you know, we care a bit more about people, we have a socialist policies in Canada, so we have, you know, the way that the federal government or politicians are, you know, speaking about Canadian identity, they're speaking about the legislation. It's, oh, we have, you know, our health care system is good.

You know, it's not like the US, it's not a private health care system. You know, everybody, you know, has a protection, but it's not going well. Here you have, you know, privatization at least 100% in Canada, it's socialism there. So they are describing us based on social program. The reality is we are different because this country, Canada, is different. We have different culture. You know, the culture in Quebec, in my own province, is very different than the culture in Alberta. The culture in Alberta is very different than the culture in P.I. That's the country that we are the

only country like that. I still don't know what it is to be a Canadian. What is it to be a Canadian? What it is to be a Canadian? We, like you, we believe in freedom. We believe in less government and more autonomy. We believe that if you're a Canadian, you have the opportunity to grow and to do what you want in life. And now it's not the case anymore. We have the big fat government that is taxing us and regulating us all the time. So to be a Canadian is to be a free man that we can do what we want but right now it's not the case anymore and with mass immigration you know you know we need to know our history and the majority of

Canadians don't know the history of our country. You know are these new immigrants they are telling me that, you know, I'm a new immigrants also. No, my roots are, you know, coming from at least 300 years. You know, I'm a settler, you know, we came in coming from France and in Quebec and same thing for people coming from Europe, in Canada, we need to speak about our country. We are not, but we have different cultures and that's, you know, the francophone part

of Canada is the only place in North America that you have a francophone government, majority of francophone try to speak French and be prosperous. So who's your hero? Who are Canadians heroes? If you give me three heroes, like when I was in Brazil and I'm talking to Jair Bolsonaro, you would hear Senna, you would hear Pele, you would hear Jair Bolsonaro, and you would hear different names, right? Who are, of course, you may say Gretzky, but who are some heroes in Canada? Top three? Laurier, Wilfred Laurier, in the beginning of our confederation, was the Prime Minister from Quebec, and you know, he was for free trades,

and he was very for a smarter government. He was a liberal, but a classical liberal. And also, you know, if you speak about sport, you know, Maurice Richard was a big, you know, Canadian, a French Canadian, French Canadian, hockey players with the Montreal Canadiens. If you speak about music, Céline Dion, she's very well known. And personally, I'm not a fan of her music,

but I'm proud that she's successful around the globe. Yeah, but... Leonard Cohen is Canadian? Leonard Cohen is Canadian? Yeah, yeah. No, we have a great francophone-englophone culture, but actually we have a very bad government. Yeah, and so, you know, a part of that with the culture, the stronger the culture is, the more pride there is to protect it. The weaker the culture is, the more it allows

President Trump to come in and say, hey, if you guys are not that proud to be Canadians, why don't you become American? I can see how he's doing that. But let me ask you this question, because a lot of times you'll hear, well, we're independent from UK. We're independent from UK.

We're independent from UK. We're independent. We're independent. I'm sorry, from France. We're independent. You're We're independent from UK. We're independent. We're independent. I'm sorry, from France. We're independent. Right, with those guys. But then, your Carney just went and sat down with the king. Didn't that just happen?

I think sometimes it was, did that just happen? A week ago, right? It was in Europe. It was in UK. Why is it that, you know, even though it's like, no, we are our own, but let us go and meet with King Charles

after Trump threats. It was kind of like, hey, King Charles,, but let us go and meet with King Charles after Trump threats. It was kind of like, hey, King Charles, can you protect us from Trump because Trump is doing this? Yeah, we're not part of UK, and hey, we kind of need, because he's trying to bully us. Why is that? Because the impression to me is like, you're running to daddy to protect from a bully.

Is that the wrong impression or the right impression? No, I think he went there to try to have, you know, our economy is 75% dependent on you guys. We are exporting. As you know, you have a trade deficit with us. The majority of the trade deficit is coming because of oil and gas first. If you don't put that in equation, you won't have a trade deficit with us. So it's coming because of oil and gas. So what he, I believe what he tried to do is to be sure to be able to have maybe a free trade agreement with Europe or and or with UK. Actually, we tried to have a free trade agreement with UK a year ago. That free trade agreement didn't work because of what? The cartel.

The Canadian government said we have to protect the cartel and the UK said we want to export the Stilton in Canada because of cheese. We were not able to have a free trade agreement and now they're saying, oh you know now we need to look at having more opportunities for our businesses and let's go and try to sign free trade agreements with Europe and other countries and UK. Yeah, when I see that, how does Canada look at Canadians? How do Canadians look at UK and France? Is it friendly? What's the relationship there? Is it friendly? What's the relationship there? It's a friendly one actually, yes. But you know, the reality is we are in North America.

We need to have good relationship with you guys. I fully agree. That's the basic. You know, we cannot go pro, we cannot be, and with the multipolar world right now, with China, Russia, BRICS countries, so we are with you guys and we need to just have a good deal with you that would be good for you and for us. Yes, we can try to have other free trades agreement and being less dependent on your market but in fact, it's easier now for business people

to export to the US than to trade across the country. So we need to fix that, like I said, but let's have a deal and put everything on the table and have a real free trade. And Trump said, you put tariff, I'll put tariff. You withdraw from tariff, I will do the same. So let's do it. Let's be serious. There's a lot of tariffs that we are imposing to you guys. Let's put that on the table. Is Carney

putting that on the table right now? No, Carney and Poliev are not putting the cartel on the table. And you know, Trump did win all the swing states, including Wisconsin. Your dairy producers are in Wisconsin. They want to export to Canada and Trump is listening to them. And we are saying and we said to Trump at the first free trade argument that we signed together, no no no, but now he's coming back and he's serious about that. But for our establishment politicians, oh no, Trump is tweeting about that. But that's not serious. That is serious. If we want to have a deal, we need to put that on the table. If not, we won't have a deal.

Justin Trudeau, right? I mean, he we haven't even talked about him yet. Justin Trudeau, have you had any interactions with them? Have you? What is how different is he behind closed doors than he is when the camera is on? Or is it the same person? I had a dinner with him maybe two times when I was in parliament. I was in government, he was in the opposition. And at that time, we had a dinner and he said, you know, Maxime, a day you're going to be the leader of the Conservative Party, one day, sorry, and one day I'll be the leader

of the Liberal Party of Canada. So, and that was maybe in 2009, 2010. And this guy, you know, is funny, is a good communicator, a good actor, you know, he can cry on demand. I cannot do that but he can. He just did that a couple weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he can. But you know, there's nothing there. He's empty. You know, you'll have a beer with him, he will chat and about, you know about culture and sport and things like that. This guy, what he did for the country, he did destroy our country in nine years.

Immigration, the economy, the growth of our GDP is going down and GDP per capita, like I said. going down and GDP per capita, like I said. So personally, you know, we had a nice dinner, chit-chat, but no, the guy is a little bit also full of himself and he's that publicly, privately also. You think that, you know, he's running on the name of his dad, you know, his dad was very well known. And I said it, you know, this guy was elected the leader of the Liberal Party because of his name, Trudeau and his dad and also his look. You know, he was young and but now people realize and that's

why I believe that the Liberal, it would be very tough for them with Carney to be re-elected because of that record from Trude from... What was his father known for? His father was known for starting the multiculturalism in Canada. He's the one who... and he did that to try to, you know... When his father was in power, we had a separatist movement in Canada. You had René Lévesque at that time, and we had a referendum on the independence of Quebec. And the way to fight that was with multiculturalism. So Trudeau said there's no two, you know, two funding nations, Quebec, Anglophone, and Francophone, and he tried, and that was the beginning of multiculturalismism and Trudeau put that at the extreme.

So he was well known also to fight the separatists in Quebec. He was well known also to fight Western Canadians and being against the oil and gas industry at that time also. So Trudeau was a real socialist actually. His father was a true socialist. Trudeau's father. Yeah. I'm looking at it right there. Liberalized divorce, abortion, homosexuality in 1967 as minister.

So now with the current state of things, I looked at the numbers. I called a couple different guys and one of the fellows I talked to, he you see here, okay, he asked to stay anonymous but you know who he is. I asked him, I said, so what's the difference between Pierre and Max? Curious to know what he's gonna be saying. If I say who this person is, he was involved in politics. No, what I'm saying is you know who it is. He says, short answer, Pierre will be prime minister. Max probably won't even win his own seat. But more fundamentally, Max is a true libertarian and has always been.

Pierre is a true blue conservative. Do you agree with him on the politics at the end, the libertarian and the true blue conservative? Well, Pierre is a red Tory. He's not a blue conservative. Look at his policy. He's a red Tory, like a liberal. I said climate change, I said immigration, I said the war in Ukraine.

Also Poliev is for the war in Ukraine. Right now he said Canada must help Ukraine and Trump is trying to have a peace deal over there. So we are the only one who said that. About, you know, yeah, I'm saying that Trudeau won't win, but you know, we are a small political party right now in Canada, but our growth is going very well. And maybe I won't be Prime Minister at this election, but I may be Prime Minister at this election, but I may be Prime Minister at the next one in 2029 because we're doing politics on the long term and our ideas are becoming more and more popular. But you know, I'm a, yeah, on the economy, I can be a libertarian for sure, but I'm a real conservative, family values, faith, less regulation, more

freedom. And the only one who did fight for freedom of choice during the covid hysteria in Canada. You know we had lockdowns, stay at home orders, vaccine passport, Poliev was okay with that. You know if you're a real conservative you must fight that, you must fight for individual freedom. Poliev was not fighting for individual freedom. I was. So, you know, these look, we all like a little bit the Reform Party in UK with Nigel Farage. Nigel, you know, at the last election, he had only 15% of the vote. He was able to elect six MPs, six candidates. And now, after a year after that election, Nigel is ahead in the polls with the Reform Party. And the Reform Party, it's about the same platform

of our political party, the People's Party. So what I'm telling you, you know, the growth can come, but because of our parliamentary system, it's a little bit more difficult for us. There's no proportionality in our electoral system. It's not like in France or other country where you have proportionality in our electoral system. It's not like in France or other countries where you have proportionality in your electoral system. We don't.

It's a parliamentary system. So it's more difficult to have seats, but we will. It's interesting because when I asked the polls how big is the People's Party of Canada, roughly 4.9% is what I see. 5% is what I see. 5%. That's the score that we had at the last election. So my goal for this election is to double that.

So if we double that to 10, we may have a couple of candidates elected, but our goal is to push the government that would be elected in the right direction to promote our ideas, to change the public opinion. And we were successful on immigration. Now you know our challenge is the mainstream media is not speaking about us. They know that if we have more visibility we will grow faster and like I said in the beginning they're leftist, they don't want to. That's why you know I'm doing podcasts and I want to thank you for it. I love that, I respect that a lot but I'm going somewhere with this. If you can show

the poll I ran. I ran ran a poll this is March 7th Say 10 days ago 13 days ago. Yeah, who is a better candidate for Prime Minister, Canada? You had 34% he had 51. Yeah, and if you go a little lower in the comment section Rob just to kind of see These two party of choice, okay How are you not seeing up here is just another globalist? You and a party who deserves to slither away and never be heard from again. I don't know who this person is Rachel Caroline Plow I'm just trying to see how the audience responds the PPC and max needs to be the party of our choice To remotely start to heal from the years of government abuse Maxime Bernier no contest

I mean if you go through the comment section you have a lot of people that want you to you know be up there Yeah, and and get the thing you have a big support from The audience with Canada. What do you think needs to happen? And by the way in Canada? Is it is it similar to? Brazil where Pierre if it gets to it to win He's gonna need you to beat Carney or no is that how it works? But you got to kind of get in there to help him out or no? No, you know, if like Trudeau, Trudeau didn't have a majority government. He had a majority in 2015, but now that's a minority government.

So they had a coalition with the NDP. And so if Poliev doesn't have a majority, he will need to do a coalition. And so if Poliev doesn't have a majority, he will need to do a coalition. So we can have a couple of MPs there and be doing that deal with Poliev for sure. But we won't merge with the Conservative Party because the Conservative Party is not conservative anymore. So that's the big problem.

Look at every issues they are not. They are afraid to speak about conservative values. You know everything that Trump did, you know, working against the woke ideology, there's only two sexes. Poliev won't say that. He won't say that? He said, I must admit, he said that there's two genders. But after that the journalist did ask, you know, if you apply for your Canadian passport, Mr. Poliev, you have male, female and X. Are you going to have only male and female for the application? And he doesn't want, he didn't want to answer that question. So he said, no, the preoccupation is the economy, stupid. I want it. So for him, you know, wokeism and the trans ideology, it's not important. For me, it's important. It's unfair.

DI, you know, diversity, equity and inclusion, we need to change that. We need to have, you know, unity or, you know, promoting, you know, miritrochrissie and not inclusion. But Poliev won't go there. Poliev is not doing the cultural war. That's why people are mad at it. Trump is doing that in the US. I'm doing that in Canada. That's such a, mad at it. Trump is doing that in the US and doing that in Canada. If that's the case, that's such a lame and weak position. I mean, look at this here from January, Polymarket. Look what Pierre was. Go to January, Rob, if you could. Can you zoom all the way back? No, no, the way you were right there. Zoom in a little bit. Pierre, according to Polymarket, was at 90%. Carney was at 12%. That was at that time Trudeau.

Okay but carny. Oh Trudeau's there as well 3.6% to win. Rob is that what you're running? And then now if you come to today Polly market says what? He went from 91 to 41. Is this really true that he's dropped 50 points of popularity? Yeah right now in the poll, Corny haven't have an advantage. That is him, but what happened for him to drop 50 points? Because his branding was to be against Trudeau and you know and he didn't put out their policies and that's Harper. Harper told him you know you are the leader of the opposition, your role is to oppose everything that Trudeau is doing.

Don't go out there with policies. First, because if they're good, the liberal will steal it and run on your policies. And second, you know, if they're not good, they will destroy you. So don't run on any policies, just be against. So now the problem is Trudeau is not there anymore. So you have a new leader and so his branding is against Trudeau and now you have Trump and now you know people want to have somebody that will fight Trump and he's not that guy. He doesn't have any private sector experience. And also don't forget the media also. The mainstream media did promote Poliev. I told you they're not Poliev, sorry, Carney. They did promote him. Yeah, but that's Pierre's fault for not wanting to go and talk to other people. He

just, you know, he cannot right now because it's empty slogan. He cannot. He doesn't have any any platform. So he cannot have a discussion. I hope he does. He will have a platform during the campaign, but it's a little bit late. And you know, it's all about, you know, he believes that if you want to win an election, you need to have good coverage from the mainstream media. And said, forget the mainstream media. So when he's doing a press conference, it's all about, you know, he's speaking like,

you know, by slogan and with no details because he doesn't want to give details. Poliev doesn't know what he believes in right now. He will know when just before the election when he will do poll and focus group. So that's why I said he's a follower, he's following the public opinion that has been manipulated by the leftist media. He's not leading. And now you can show that. That's why it's happening. People want a leader with ideas and Polyev is not out there.

Rob, is this updated as of today, March 20th? Yep, it says up in the top corner, March 20th. And this is Polymarket Polymarket. Yeah. That is embarrassed. Can you go to another, go to Vegas odds. Can you just go to Vegas odds to see what Vegas odds are saying about prime minister in Canada?

Can I name prime? Yeah. What's Vegas odds saying 2025? Are they doing anything or no? There's- They did, I think. Vegas odds, oh man that is just absolutely embarrassing. Next problem, okay there's one here, yeah Polymarket, that's the one.

So yeah I mean you're, no you're on the one, that was the one Rob, that Saas just sent. Wow. You can go also, 338 Canada. 338 Canada. 338 Canada? Yeah. 238. I'm on it right now, yeah. Yeah, so they're going to tell you by, okay, by seats.

So which one will have more seats? And right now they're saying the liberals will have more seats than the conservative? Yeah, so. 178 130 yeah and to have a majority you need 162 seats so right now he's behind by 32 yeah yeah so so you know the liberal are very popular in Quebec. They have a lot of seats there in Ontario and Poliev is popular out west. Okay, so I have a CEO of a major insurance company in Canada. And here's what he sent me to ask. His question was, will you commit resources to lifting inter-provincial trade barriers? resources to lifting inter-provincial trade barriers. Yes, I said that 10 years ago.

Absolutely. And you know what? The federal government can do that. It's in our constitution. That is under the responsibility and the jurisdiction of the federal government. We need to have real internal trade and free trade across the country.

And yes, you can do that. You use the constitution to be sure to have that after 100 and more than 150 years. We still don't have an economic union in Canada. But the good news is the government of Nova Scotia. Two weeks ago, they said, OK, we will have a new legislation, no more trade barriers in our province and that's an incentive for other provinces to do that also. We are welcoming goods coming from other provinces and they were the first one to do that. So I hope that other provinces will follow. If not, the federal government can

push that and use the power that we have in the constitution to do it. That's very important when you're... because to us, it may not be a big deal in America. We don't know what that means, right? But over there, it's kind of like being an EU and you know, you're trying to do business and it's a little bit complicated. It's easier for a business in New Brunswick to sell goods in Maine than it is to sell that in Quebec. So we need to abolish all that. That's crazy. Yeah. That's the reality. Well Max, I'm gonna give you final thoughts. This has been a pleasure talking to you. I appreciate you for coming out. Thank you. I love your energy for the audience that's watching this.

He lands last night and this morning you ran 12k? 12k this morning prior to coming to the meeting and we had a great conversation about Doug Flutie because he used to play football. Doug Flutie was a Canadian, he went from Boston College to play quarterback. Final thoughts to Americans and Canadians that may be listening to this. Yeah I'm telling to Americans we won't be the 50 first date. Just understand that. We love you, we love you and we can have a better relationship and I understand Trump and I'm ready to work with your president to be sure that you know we will do what is right to protect your own security by protecting our own security in Canada.

Respect. Maxime, this has been a pleasure having you on. Thank you so much for coming out. It's been fantastic. That was fun. Thank you. Take care everybody. Bye bye bye bye.

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