PBD Podcast - Pro Wrestler Diamond Dallas Page | PBD Podcast | EP 150 |

Episode Date: April 26, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Adam Sosnick and Pro Wrestler Diamond Dallas Page. TOPICS Diamond Dallas Page admits wrestling is FAKE Diamond Dallas Page reveals his greatest frien...ds in the industry Diamond Dallas Page reveals the most important thing in wrestling Diamond Dallas Page Reveals the greatest wrestlers of all time Diamond Dallas Page explains his true thoughts on Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson BREAKING NEWS: Elon Musk buys twitter Breaking down Mike Tyson's airplane punch Vince McMahon vs. Dana White Download the DDP Yoga App: https://bit.ly/3OC5fU4 Check out the story of DDP's life in the documentary RELENTLESS: https://bit.ly/3kdsNAJ See DDP in the new Netflix series Guardians of Justice: https://bit.ly/3kdt46J Check out DDP's in the documentary Resurrection of Jake the Snake: https://amzn.to/3OAwezn Check out DDP's Podcast "The Snake Pit" with Diamond Dallas Page and Jake The Snake Roberts: https://apple.co/39jXWAj Follow DDP on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3rTWUBr Follow DDP on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3EHtLPf Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list About Dallas Page:  Dallas Page (born Page Joseph Falkinburg Jr., April 5, 1956), better known by his ring name Diamond Dallas Page (often stylized as DDP), is an American actor, fitness instructor and former professional wrestler. In the course of his wrestling career, which spanned two decades, Page has wrestled for mainstream wrestling promotions World Championship Wrestling (WCW), the World Wrestling Federation (WWF, now WWE), Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA), and All Elite Wrestling (AEW). About Co-Host: Adam “Sos” Sosnick has lived a true rags to riches story. He hasn’t always been an authority on money. Connect with him on his weekly SOSCAST here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw4s_zB_R7I0VW88nOW4PJkyREjT7rJic Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.   To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: booking@valuetainment.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are you out of your mind? Here's the debate. You're upset. There's a new belief. This is it. I thought that I don't want. Gentlemen, we're live. Fantastic folks. Today we have a special guest for you.
Starting point is 00:00:20 It's Diamond Dallas page. The one and only Diamond Dallas page. I don't know how many championships you've got. How many times you were? Let me just read off a few of them. So folks know what you did over a decade in WCW three time WCW World Heavyweight Champion two time WCW United States heavyweight champion one time WCW World Television Champion, Fort WCW Triple Crown Champion, this list goes on, you and the only US Heavyweight Champion to defend the title on a paper view, main event defeating Bret Hart at the 1998 World War III. You have a new program called the DDPY,
Starting point is 00:01:01 which some would call yoga, but you created it yourself. And you said something very interesting when we just got started You said when you guys started wrestling, you know the Hulk was six seven and you were six four and you're still six four and he's now six three So yeah, right about the same height. Yeah, right about the same. Yeah, I'd I will talk about we'll talk about how you did that How you related the soul identity, but pretty excited about this interview and great to have you on Pleasure to be here, bro. Pleasure to be here. We've had some certified badasses on the show We had Francis Gano the UFC heavyweight champ of the world, but I mean DDP certified badass in the house And you know what it is also an actor, you know, he's he's a real badass
Starting point is 00:01:41 And you know, I do not can how hang my own but in 66, I'm all about peace and love, baby. It's like the old Bobby Bear song, You're the winners. As far as I'm concerned, you win. By the way, for the folks who are still under 40s or 50s, and they were convinced wrestling was real, he just ruined it for you. How do you tell people, it's not fake, it's predetermined. Yeah, I mean, it's a show. It's a show. I got to tell you this is a great story. I was being interviewed because we did,
Starting point is 00:02:18 one of the favorite wrestling movies out there is Ready to Rumble. And we're doing the whole big gambit, the promoting and everything. And we were doing the whole big gambit, the promoting and everything, and everybody's being so nice, because wrestling's just white hot, you know, in the 90s. And that's when it came out. And there's this one guy who's interviewing me. And I can tell he just doesn't want to be there. And so as we get to the end of the interview, I said, and I can I ask you a question man, you go, sure. I said, you don't appreciate what we do. Do you? He said, honestly, I said,
Starting point is 00:02:52 I asked you a question. Yeah, honestly, it was not really. I said, okay, so you don't like the whole showmanship of it or whatever. You know, well, it's fake and blah and blah blah blah. I go, let me ask you a question. I said, are you a, you know, you're in New York City, you, you, you, you, a guy likes to go to place. Oh, absolutely. I love, I love Broadway. I said, what's your favorite, uh, Broadway play? And he said, hands down, fat, I'm in the opera.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And I looked around. I said, bro, I don't want to spoil this for you. But he doesn't really get hurt with the oil. You know, you know, the crew just burst out laughing, right? Yeah, I just said, I said, you know, every night, I'm going out there with a different opponent because it's a dance. It's a very physical, brutal dance. And people think it only happens on Monday and Friday
Starting point is 00:03:51 in a pay-per-view. No, it happens 24 to 27 nights a month. You get in a car, you drive 100, 200, 300 miles to the next town or fly from LA to Kansas City and drive 100, 200, 300 miles. The wear and tear on your body is off the chain. And people could say whatever they want about professional wrestling, one thing remains that everyone understands. You can't fake gravity. You know, gravity will, it'll have you
Starting point is 00:04:29 up. I went, you said you're surgery. What would you, on your back? What did you talk about? You had something going with your back. I met this isn't thing. Now we talked about whole cassette. Yeah. From what I understand, whole said eight back surgeries. Because when you start one? They're coming. I ruptured my elbow. I didn't start wrestling until it's 35. My career took off and I was 40.
Starting point is 00:04:53 That was a nine to six. That's not a hurt of, by the way. Unheard of. Started when you were 35. 35, most professional careers are ending at that point. You're just getting this thing started, baby. And it was really hard because I came from a manager in a color color, a color commentator spot. And I was running nightclubs. So for me to make
Starting point is 00:05:12 that, you know, break, because when they came up to me, I'm a WCW at the time, I'm managing Scott Hall, who I called the diamond stud at the time. And I'm managing a freebirds. And Magnum TA, who is Dusty Roads is right hand, walks up to me and he says, listen, D, we're still going to let you do the color commentating. But we can't let you do the, you know, the, the managing anymore. I go, why? I mean, dude, what did I do wrong? I go, I'll fix it. You go, is honestly, you can't. I go, what do you mean I can't? He goes, because look at you. The hair had long unbelievable gorgeous hair. You know, they're getting lots of gold in there. But you know, the clothes,
Starting point is 00:05:55 the bling, the wraps, I had these girls called the diamond dolls. And they were stripper hot. It was like smoke. I know the type. You know what I'm talking about. And the bottom line is he's like the bling the rap. The girls. Nobody. Everybody wants to be you. You're taking too many in the ring, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Because that one he was getting that. No, he was saying you basically I'm too over the top of professional wrestling. How is that possible as a manager? But what he said when he walked away, he said, what we shouldn't try to do is put you in a pair of tights and boots and see if you can do this. Now, I had seven months left of my contract. At that point, I was like, you know, I never got in this business because I tried it. One was 23 and three matches hurt my knees and it didn't work out for me. I wasn't ready for it then anyway
Starting point is 00:06:46 Starting at 35 It was really hard because I can't tell you how many times my body hit that mat when I first got down that cold Jim that's free and you know seven different rings in it and it's freezing in there I can't tell you how many times my body hit that mat and I thought man this fake shit hurts like hell So you know, it's just the when I finally got to You know actually get there and then find out okay now you can't do it I'd seven months left to my contract so I said to hell if I'm going down to PowerPoint I'm gonna learn how to wrestle now the The guys I was managing to Freebirds,
Starting point is 00:07:25 the two of the greatest ever, a whole of famous, Jimmy Jam Garvin, Michael PSAs, they look at each other and literally fell down laughing at me. Because by the time you've tried to figure it out, because it's not like anything you've ever done, if you're in a fight, you're in a fight, you're in a fight with a mixed martial artist, you're in trouble,, you're in a fight. You're in a fight. Fight with a mixed martial artist. You're in trouble because those cats know all different types.
Starting point is 00:07:49 From dudes who get to the wrestling, the box, and the striking, everything. Like they're going to get you in every different angle. But at least you got your own. You got two fists. You got something to go with. In professional wrestling, it's a dance. And just folding flat on your back, there's nothing normal about that. So you got to reprogram your mind to understand how to
Starting point is 00:08:13 focus. If you don't take as much of it the fall from your shoulders to your hips, you know, you can really hurt yourself. So the bottom line is you think that learning those moves in the beginning, it's going to be the hardest thing you've ever done. And now your front out there in front of 500, 5000, I've been in front of 101,000 people. And see there. And once you realize now you're in front of those people, now how do you make them care and think about this? When they know that you know, and you know that they know that you know and you know that they know that you and your partner both though who's gonna win before
Starting point is 00:08:50 you walk out there how do you make them care you build real-life characters and I've often said this in my speaking and when Paige Joseph Falkenberg because that was my real name before I changed it. And I knew that name was never gonna draw any money in a world of adventure wrestling. When Paige Joseph Falkenberg stopped trying to be this over the top wrestling persona, Diamond Dallas Paige.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Diamond Dallas Paige started thinking of the characteristics of Paige Joseph Falkenberg, work ethic, believe believing oneself, discipline. Man, my career took off like a rocket because I was bringing my own self to the character. And that's what every single actor does, you know, and creates back story. So now that I became all mine. I am the oldest rookie at bar. Inside my Hall of Fame ring, it says work ethic equals dreams. Explanation. I love that.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I love that. I love that. What a freaking story you just told. By the way, in a match you're saying all of it is, you know, you kind of know who's going to win before. Has there ever been a time where in the middle of it, it changed where you guys as the wrestlers made a decision. Now, you know what? You're going to win this one. But not like that, though. Eddie Guerrero was one of the greatest wrestlers ever. He
Starting point is 00:10:13 could do anything. And we were having a match at Halloween. And this one's really got me to a place where Eddie was the good guy when we started. I was the bad guy, but my diamond cutter finishing maneuver because it came out of nowhere. People want to be surprised. They want to think they know, no, no, no, oh, they want to be surprised. And again, hours is like ballet, meets Broadway,
Starting point is 00:10:42 meets live acting. And Eddie, he would come off that top rope to you on the floor when nobody did that. Now a lot of guys do it. I did it. You know, but at that time he was one of the only guys who was doing it and he would be to jump off that top deal, which was probably about 12 feet. So he's another 20 feet. Yeah, and he came down and how he landed. And this happened to me too at times when you tear like a in between your ribs, white muscle, it's you can't breathe. It hurts to breathe. And Eddie never sold it. In other words, he never told me he hurt himself. He kept going, he kept going and we're getting near the end of the match. And I go to pick him up, he goes diamond cutter. I go, no, I need to go diamond
Starting point is 00:11:28 cutter, diamond, he was okay. He's a diamond cutter. Pinnum, it was a huge win for me. October of 1997, 1996, 1997. I'd be the rest of the year. Well, you were supposed to lose that match and he was a match in juries like DDP me now. Yes, just just hit me hit me with the bringin And I quickly did a register. Oh shit. I'm about to win this match. I was like, you know, I hope I don't get trouble And did you what? Because then he was like he came out like he was really he would jump off the top rope And he would take his arm as like as far out and then he bring his knees and he was just and it's pretty I close the call that a frog splash he wasn't doing that and I thought he just should have rolled me up and just like
Starting point is 00:12:15 You know, it's made something's really simple to get the win But he didn't do it. He went diamond kind of went. Okay. It was a huge win for me Wow, so so 96 96 win for me at that time. Wow, so it's 96 96. So let me ask you. So you know how the game of football, right? Okay, the quarterbacks up there, coach is calling the play. Sometimes the players like, now I'm going to do what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And the coach loses their mind. You're going to be doing that. What are you doing? It says, now I'm going to throw this over here, can't say nothing about it. And then there's that beef between the player and the coach. When that happens there, who's calling who is Vince calling saying what, what was that all about? How does that process go? That was actually Eric Bischoff who was in charge at that point because we were kicking their ass. Well, we were going back and forth in 96, 97, 98, we kicked WWE's ass. They almost went out of business. NWO was the hottest thing.
Starting point is 00:13:05 It was my CTV. This is how crazy it was. The top, you know, back then it was, it's made channels, it's that, but it's a lot of them. So on cable television, we would be, or WWF would be number one in all of cable. And then we would be, or WWF would be, number two,
Starting point is 00:13:25 number three, and sometimes number four. We had the top four shows on all of cable. And there were two different shows. We did nitro and thunder, they did raw and smack down. It was crazy. And the ratings originally, Vince was doing like a 2.9 to a 3.2. That would be unbelievable today, but the universe has changed. We got those numbers up. I thought they're going to split one
Starting point is 00:13:54 wheel. We have one five and a you know, you know, the one eight or whatever. No, no, more people watched, more people watched. And it's kind of like the Boston Red Sox and the Yankees. Those two teams hate each other and not not so much the teams, but the fans. And if all of a sudden there was no more Red Sox, all those baseball fans who watch the Red Sox, they would watch the Yankees, you know, because they hate them. So I don't understand that. But I, my buddies, I grew up in Jersey. They, you know, like made a plane crash.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Why would you say that? Like they're that fanatical about it. So that's what it was in WCW. So by the way, will you be at that time? Like, but, but was it that the world also say that you're ahead of them? Like that the world, because I you're ahead of them, like that the world, because I know you guys had hall coke and you had, you know, Eric Bischoff, you had Kevin Nash, you had Scott Hall, you had Randy Savage, you had Sting, you had
Starting point is 00:14:53 so many guys, Scott Steiner. I mean, shit, some of these names, Bagwell, Norton, there was some legit lineup of what you guys had. Yeah. Were you ahead? Were you like the Yankees at the time? Or were you the Red Sox underdog? We were the red headed stepchild for the longest time. And then Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, one day they were on their TV. And the next day, Scott Hall just showed up on ours. There was only five people who knew he's going to walk through the crowd,
Starting point is 00:15:23 walk through the grab a microphone in the middle of the match. People like what the hell is happening? And then he said we're gonna we want you we're gonna bring our best three you bring your best friend he puts out this challenge. We call it a shoot you know like this is this is not a work or it's not not storytelling. It was, but nobody knew, but the smallest handful, you know, really tough to do during the internet, but you can still do it. What you don't know if it's real or not, no, Kevin Nash showed up. He grabbed Eric Bischoff. And this had never been done. Vince McMahon would go on to have matches and get thrown through stuff and slam through stuff, but it never happened before Eric Bishop.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Kevin Nash grabbed them at six foot 10, picked them up over his head, and threw him through the stage. Now it's set up to break, when he drops like 10 feet through a broken stage down to the ground, and that's how they go off the show. So now people are they they bought it is Vince because these guys were just on TV and they were razor remote and diesel.
Starting point is 00:16:34 When those guys came on they never said their names. It was you know who we are. So now it didn't they let the call them something else and their names were cool. So now it didn't, they didn't have to call them something else. And their names were cool. Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Hall and Nash, they became the outsiders. It changed the business. It made it what Thursdays used to be when Seinfeld was on and stuff must see TV. And guys would be picking up the phone. Oh my god. No switch over switch over to W. W. F. Oh switch over to W. C. W. And through this because it was so hot both of those guys were best friends of mine. We started together. I created Scott Hall's look when he came in as a diamond stud. And he didn't he had to blonde hair and a big wall or smushed gnash and he completely changed his look and
Starting point is 00:17:26 He wanted to help me back, you know and Kevin Nash we were tag team partners and He wanted to quit a bunch of times because they were screwing them around so bad that I would be like don't let them beat you big Man, you're gonna be one of the biggest names of all time and he is But even even his Hall of Fame speech he thanked me because I got my my home on the beach You know because a dally kept me in this you know keeping that positive don't you know this you know this you don't quit You keep if you believe in it if you're passionate about it you keep moving towards it and it will happen. And it may not happen exactly when you wanted to happen,
Starting point is 00:18:08 but it'll happen. You know, it's crazy. I, one of our guys that I was reading the text for you earlier, he texts me from Brazil, Aaron. And he says, he knows obviously you're going to be on the show today. He says, have an awesome show today, Patrick. What, what, what, what, what, what,
Starting point is 00:18:22 DDP did for Jake, the snake was nothing short of amazing. I said which part? He says he brought Jake, the snake back from a massive alcohol addiction, rehabbed his body and helped them be able to be inducted into W. W. Hall of Fame. He has done that for many athletes. This is a very common thread with the story of what you've done for these guys. What has been your approach?
Starting point is 00:18:45 And maybe the better question would be, in every sport, there is a guy that plays that role, older brother. Like, somebody that's going to give the call and say, let me talk to you. And it's kind of helped you get through this challenge and time. What is the optics of what this looks like, meaning
Starting point is 00:19:03 party and temptation? What's around me? What's the life look like? I remember I went to Rick Flair's place in Atlanta. I mean, he wasn't Atlanta. I interviewed Rick Flair and he told me the stories. And I was there and there would rick and his group was sitting over there.
Starting point is 00:19:15 You know, and we're going back and forth. I'm like, half the stories he's telling me. It doesn't make any sense. That's when the documentary has come out and the whole story with his son 24 years old all of this stuff but tell me what the world looks like that we don't see we see this but we don't see behind the scenes the party what does that life look like but first let me tell you Rick Flair like there was nobody like him there's
Starting point is 00:19:43 nobody to me he's one of the greatest of all time because he had the 30 year run I'll be on top. He's still on top at 73. You know everybody loves him But his stories when he's telling you how wild crazy they are they're watered down because You can take those Way crazier. You know, okay, she 13 version. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's like quadruple X.
Starting point is 00:20:12 You know, the Mage is his own animal. I love him the death. We didn't, early in my career, because I'm coming up at the 35, 37, he doesn't believe in me, likes me, but he doesn't believe me so he's not gonna, we end up having a little bit of conflict. And then later, after, you know, it's all going
Starting point is 00:20:32 cause we're all family. We all love each other when it's all set and done. Very few guys have the heat that lasts forever. Really? So there's brotherly love throughout. It's all of us. We're a total dysfunctional family that we're like, we can do do shit back and forth with Jonathan but you don't get to do it. You know love and me and Nate I saw him they dropped all the balloons for
Starting point is 00:20:55 WWF was a big thing WWE you know for he's retiring and I thought man I've always loved this guy as Rick Flair I I, you know, I wanted to be tight with Rick, but it just didn't happen. So I said, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try and fix this. So we were both at a signing in New York. And everybody, he's, he's a flair. So, you know, he just got retired for, so everybody swarms. I mean, I waited, everybody was done. He was like, hey, Dime and how you doing?
Starting point is 00:21:25 I go good Rick. I go can I talk to you for a sec? He goes absolutely. I said, you know Rick? I go I know me and you have had heat, you know, over the years and he's like, oh come on. Don't don't worry about that. I go Rick. I'm not worried about it. I Want to fix it. I know I've said some shit. I know you've said some shit. I said dude. I go I don't want Rick Flair to not be one of my boys. I don't want me to feel that way. I said I would love To start all over again Gonna put up my hands on dumb I'm Diamond Dallas page and he popped the hug meeting kiss me in the floor and God bless your brother and since then I've had such an unbelievable
Starting point is 00:22:10 Related to a love-rich flare When I went in the hall of fame That night before I was leaving he yelled to me. He was at the bar. I come over. He goes Hey, come on sit down and have a drink have a drink. So have a drink with him And he says, what time's your flight tomorrow? I said 7 30. He's like, Jesus, who booked that?
Starting point is 00:22:30 I go not me and I can't change the flight. He goes, you still on Atlanta? I said, yeah, I'm still in Atlanta. He goes, he goes, all right, he goes tomorrow. You and your old lady, man. Go, I got the limousine. I got the layer of jada. I got the whole deal.
Starting point is 00:22:43 He goes, you're coming back to Atlanta with me. I go, that is so cool, but bro, I don't. I've got so many bags, I'm like the Griswals. You know what I mean? And he's like, I don't want to hear that shit. Get down there, there's a FedEx right over there. He goes, send your bags home, I'll meet you down here. Don't call me before 12, we're leaving it to.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And we went, we, if we flew us back in the Lear jet he found out was my birthday Took us out the dinner, so I mean Mcflab and I love them a death that I'm telling you his stories They're watered down. You know because he's he's just pure energy And he's the nature boy Who are your best friends in the business? It sounds like there's a brotherhood. Even if there's beef, you're the type of person.
Starting point is 00:23:28 I'm just an ear that infects his hell, bro. I feel like if you're in a room, you're gonna be the first guy to be like, man, just put it here, bro. And you're like, I feel like that's huge. That's huge to do, especially in a competitive environment. But at the end of the day, who are like your tightest guys that you're tight with?
Starting point is 00:23:43 The tightest guys, you know, Kevin Nash, you know, Scott Hall, Jake Roberts, Dusty Rhodes before he left, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Eric Bischoff, you know, it's funny because when Scott passed, boy, who it really hit because, you know, we just talked about Jake. It's a month ago, right? This is yeah, month ago. Jake, let's go back to the resurrection because you've got to really see how that happened. Without Jake, without Dusty Rhodes, there is no Diamond Dallas page. He gave me all the breaks and the mentoring that, because he loved me and he pulled me under his wing and he saw me more as a producer, you know, in a talent like, you know, on air talent, not a wrestler. I would do that later.
Starting point is 00:24:27 And Jake Stink Roberts pulled me under his wing. I, this is how I meet Jake Stink Roberts. I've got this big ass club in Fort Myers, Florida. And right now, we're writing a show about this. And this is how it starts. Club, you have to build, this is the 80s. So think of it as like, welcome to the jungle, the music's playing, you see the 62 pink Cadillac, pulling the club the place is packed. Hair band is just like all time high at that. No, crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:25:00 The energy's insane, everybody's party, it's pre-AIDS, it's a bunch of wild people having a good time. And the character who plays me gets out of the car, and just what really happens, I get out of the car, I go through the club, you're the mayor. There's a thousand plus people in there, buying drinks, blah, blah, blah, working your way through the crowd,
Starting point is 00:25:19 I get to the back, I reach over, I go to grab my keys that are, right where the monitors are, front door, back door. And I see this guy fill up the screen on the monitor. And I'm like, no way. And I run, not through the building, not through the building, around the outside of the building, because I won't be able to find them in there.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And I walk in the front door, I go, Judy, did a guy walk in here and look like kicked a snake Roberts? She's like, yeah, everybody thinks it's him. So like the biggest mark ever, I go running in there. I see him and I slow down. They want to be all fanboyed up on Jake Roberts. And I probably work my way over like, Hey, man, you Jake to snake Roberts? Who wants to know? I said, the guy runs this place. Yes. What can I do for you? What are we drinking? And we are getting so shit past that night. It was the beginning of being bar buddies and he would come into club and on another
Starting point is 00:26:21 boy's wood because I didn't charge anybody. It took care of them all gave him safe place to be. This is before I'm involved in this yet, but I tried it when I was 23. So I have this thing connection to it. And then later on, Jake, when I would be in WCW and I started wrestling, Jake came in for like three months, got this huge contract, and then before he signed it, another guy came in Bill Watts and said, pulled the contract off the table, and then Jake was out of there,
Starting point is 00:26:55 because they had a lot of conflict between the two of them. And what ended up happening is I tore my rotator cuff and Jake had called me, because now I'm happening is I tore my rotator cuff and Jake had called me because now I'm wrestling nine months, actually seven months because my contract's up. They're not going to renew it. I'm 36 years old. My, my rotator cuff's gone. Yeah, I got to get surgery on it.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Jake calls me up and just, you know, sees how I'm doing him and his old lady had split up before you know it. He's living with me in my life, my first life at the time. And so he takes me under his wing and you know, I'm like, man, I can't wait. You're going to do independent, you work independently. There's independent wrestling all over the world. And you can make decent money. I was at the bottom of the card, but Jake could get me in. And one of the things he said to me, which was really, really, it changed my whole life, but it came to this world and how fast I learned.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I filmed every match I ever had. And Jake had sold me. I said to him, man, I can't wait when just my shoulders better. Can we get in the ring and work with you? He goes, yeah, yeah, he goes, but you've already got all the moves down. You already know what to do in the ring. You just don't know why. You don't know how to tell a story yet. You go, we're gonna learn more watching your matches
Starting point is 00:28:16 and me critiquing them, then you'll ever learn from me in the ring. Think of game films, right? I mean, every single person from every world has game films, except for us. And when I started filling myself, the guys would bus my shop so bad on the first guy to ice his body, knees and back later and shoulders later, just to get out of the ring, I see my body. And then I'm the first guy to film his matches. Look on YouTube today.
Starting point is 00:28:49 There's a billion kids who've got their match up on YouTube. And if you really watch it, when somebody really understands, and whether it was me and Nash or Scott Hall or Austin or McFolly whoever it was You know, we'd sit back and drink beers and watch the matches that I just filmed and They would all help me and critique me and Jake was real mind. So let me ask you this So what matters the most in your world? Okay, so you got first all your voice is ridiculous
Starting point is 00:29:20 You're your voice again, you know what I'm saying like you can listen to that voice tell stories all Clearly, okay, Chris is ridiculous. Your voice again. You know what I'm saying? Like you can listen to that voice tell stories all day long. So clearly I'll kick her ass. So how much of it is, like physiology, like what you look like, how much of it is your look, your face, how much of it is your voice, how much of it is storytelling, how much of it is talking shit, how much of it is just me a flexibility. But what would you rank as the most important to be in a great wrestler. You're really insightful, bro, because it's all of that. When you've got the look and the size and the rap and the athleticism, when you put that all together, you've got like Stone Cold Steve Austin. You've got the rock. You've got a Goldberg.
Starting point is 00:30:03 You know, you've got Kevin Nash, like the guys who, guys who learned to just take themselves and amp them up. And Scott, because he was big Scott Hall or he was Gator Scott Hall, he didn't really know how to be like himself and am himself up until I'm managing him and we create that look I told you over the black hair and a brush cut five o'clock shadow which he had around two You see the mirror of course can you pull them up real quick? It's it's amazing like a perfect. Yeah It's a base like a perfect. Yeah And he got all Can you and try to pull up a picture of him with a mustache to like an older picture? So you can see doesn't look anything like
Starting point is 00:30:53 The mustache type of mustache next to it. Yeah, it's like a walrus mustache See that look it does that look anything like the other guy Not at all that at all. It's got all right that's got that's big Scott hall and when did he become razor remote? Well what happened was when I just come up with this idea for the diamond Stud he's the one who calls me and says, you know, we could do that diamond stud gimmick, you know And I said will you you know, they didn't want to bring them in because you'd already been in and once you've had a chance You're kind of out, you know like sometimes it's too early and it was too early for him to get the big opportunity But if you change his look and that's what I told bag them T.A. The guy who told me I was too over the top
Starting point is 00:31:38 Resilversly is a badger he said You know They've already seen him and they don't want to bring him back in. I go bags. What if I can completely change his look? He goes, what do you mean? I go, what if you don't recognize him?
Starting point is 00:31:53 So he goes, just bring him up. Bring him up. We'll take a look at him. So I call Scott and I say, dude, I said, you got it. You know, they don't want you and they just crushed him, you know, it's like, because he just got back from Germany wrestling there and he can't get WWF or WCW to call him back. But he's got me here and I'm going, you got, what if we change the color of your hair?
Starting point is 00:32:16 I go, he goes, what do you mean? I go like, go from like the blonde or dirty blonde hair to the blue black like Elvis hair. And hockey talk man had black hair like that. I can't talk man was great. Yeah, and but he was the only one who had that hair like that. He was Elvis, right? Yeah, of course. And then you bring on, you know, the, I saw Sean, not Sean Michael, I saw George Michaels on MTV at two o'clock in the morning because I'm a club guy still even though I'm staying with my buddy at Lanna I can't go to bed that early so I see George Michael on and
Starting point is 00:32:51 Head this five o'clock shadow look I go man that looks amazing. So I pick up the phone and I call him Dally, what are you doing? Bro? It's two in the morning. My wife's pregnant You know I go coming I gotta tell you something. You're coming up tomorrow. Come on, walk out of the room. I go, you gotta save the mustache. Shave the mustache. I do not like this since I was 15.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I go just another reason. Shave the mustache. The town selling look is done, brother. It's over. We gotta put the five o'clock shadow, George Michael vibes. So the bottom line is, he did it. No one recognized him. And he kind of imagined you know what you look like. Yeah, and you saw this guy six months ago. And now, that's the first example right there. Exactly. No, it doesn't look like the same guy. Crazy. He's like getting out of the a yo to the 2000.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Hey yo, he was a he was the a shekel who would say him to him to. He was a shekel. You know your stuff. Well, I'm a listen. I mean, I'm 43. This is my air I've watched.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Who is your favorite wrestler grown up? Who is your guy? The obvious one is the iron sheet. But you got to say I appreciate that. You know what a stud iron cheek used to be. That's what I hear.
Starting point is 00:34:08 He was an animal. 185 pound Olympic athlete. He was no sergeant's daughter. No, dude. So who was your guy? Another great guy. I would say, I mean, in my era, shit, Lex Luger was always going to see coming out.
Starting point is 00:34:25 He was the other guy, the ultimate warrior was, was, uh, beach. You like the gym guy? I like the gym guys. Yeah, I like the, I like to, uh, listen, Goldberg to me was, that's a little later, but Goldberg was insane to watch him. Nash Stink, uh, who was the other guy? There was one other guy that was, uh, I'll look him up. I'll, I'll, but anyways, this was an error. I was watching them, but go, go back to your
Starting point is 00:34:50 story on what you were talking about with him. So, so changes low. So I changed look. Yeah. And now I've got a 62 pink Cadillac convertible. That's what I drive at the time. And Aritha Franklin, let's do what it looks like. 62 Cadillac pink and we're driving Scott didn't even drink back that he's spoke pot and he be rolling that to 59 got a 62 that's a 59 Tyler it's a 59 more on with you put him if you put diamond dollars page pink Cadillac cutter over there. Page pink cat, I like my cutter over there. Jacked up right now. He loved the movie Scarface. So he would be smoking an herb and just doing one,
Starting point is 00:35:32 there's a million quotes from Scarface. Fred Mario does that non-thoubbs. And so what happened was when he went to the WWF, I'd heard, I don't know if it was true or not, but I'm pretty sure he told me that Vince wanted to make him like GI bro or would not jab bro, but I an army guy and he said, you know, Vince What do you think about this and they went into the character? Mm-hmm and Vince loved it and then they one of my very good friends Gabriel Glacias the comedian
Starting point is 00:36:02 He was said fluffy fluffy said he cried when he realized he wasn't Mexican. Still wanted. Still want a white guy. You're white guy. You're white guy. But he played it so well. He played it so well. And it's stated that in the Mexican's cat. I want to dress one thing. We're talking about this guys.
Starting point is 00:36:24 I got to just held it head on My favorite wrestler all time grown up. I'm an 80s kid 90s kid Straight up. It wasn't anything close to Hulk Hogan You kid me when you're a kid grown up, but you're just like hell yeah, I mean Hulk I mean he's got his just 62 inch pie whatever. No, look, there was there was ultimate warrior There's much old man ready. I mean Jake the snake million dollar man Ted D. B. O. C. Super fried Jimmy snuck out junk out like I loved wrestling, but nobody was Hulk. Oh no, he was his either goat. Who's the goat?
Starting point is 00:36:59 He said, look, Flare. He said, I gotta say Rick when it cuz you gotta add the work in there to like Rick could do 60 minute broadways Meaning he's gonna wrestle for 60 minutes with no winner at the end You know, I mean like he's that guy and but if you take the icon who at the time was the hottest it's Hulkster Yeah, but you look at a guy like Sean Michaels who was just a younger version who could do, I mean, he did stop at it. It's just an unbelievable, different level. If Stone Cold Steve Austin has the length of Rick Flair when it comes to longevity, because he got dropped on his head and broke his neck, you know, maybe he's the guy.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Because he drew money, he drew more money than Hulk Drew in a short period of time. Yeah, cause he's a member. So he's like Conor, he would pull money. Say again, because Conor, you know, Conor and UFC. Conor and UFC. Right, right, right, right, right. And that's Austin.
Starting point is 00:38:00 And Austin, I mean, I'm wow. There, Bo, I tell you, when you get to that level, the grab, how you grab the crowd, like I was so lucky to live the dream like I did, man. 1997 was my year. Night, night, eight was amazing. In 99, and this is all of my 40s. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:19 You know, all of my 40s, and one ended up happening where don't DDP yoga think comes from I'm working 270 plus days a year hitting the mat One match because I'm one main events through all of this so one match could go 15 minutes ago 30 That's like having five to eight car accidents in one day. And Rick Flair said something really interesting. He said, it's amazing what your body can get used to. So paint tolerance.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Yes, but just your body can just keep it used to it. And then when you stop doing it and you come back, oh my God, it's like starting all over again. So I was working such a feverish pitch along with doing, you know, Malone, Carl Malone and Dennis Rodman, Kim, Rodman was with Hogan. And me and Carl Malone came on while they were on the tonight show and we shot the angle. Showed Malone and DDP. And I have to teach these guys now how to wrestle. They're not wrestlers. So we have to figure out.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And Malone is huge. Look at that picture right. Beast. Like that is the, like I'll go back to take the story. So hope pulls me aside in Germany. 1994. I just walked through the. So Hulk pulls me aside in Germany 1994. I just walked through the curtain and he pulls me aside. He goes, how are you doing it? I go, how am I doing? What Hulk? He goes, how are you getting so much better? He goes, I don't see you
Starting point is 00:39:57 on TV that often. They don't believe in me at the time. They're not using me. So he goes, but when I do see you, you come up with some new move I haven't seen you do and you get the people involved. He goes, this is how they're doing it, right? He can't search his own question. He goes, they're putting you on the road so you can learn your craft. I said, I said, oh, the only reason I'm on this tour is because my real name is Falkenberg and the crowds love their Germans. I got a spoken hot wife that walks me to the ring. He goes, well, how the hell are you doing it then? I said, I went back on the power plant
Starting point is 00:40:35 where I learned how to wrestle and I started teaching those guys. And I'm kind of figuring out the more I teach them, the more I learn. This is about everything, and you know this course You teach someone and keep teaching them and keep teaching you're learning as you're teaching the most the most important thing so and obviously Great talk on thank you. I appreciate the compliment. He goes he goes whatever you're doing Keep doing it because it's not today. It's not next year the year after you said But I honest to God believe that you and I could draw a huge money together
Starting point is 00:41:11 four years later That is the big second biggest drawing pay-per-view in the history of pay-per-views for WCW and I'm the one who put that whole thing together from Carl coming in you. And I'm the one who put that whole thing together from Carl coming in. Robin was already coming in with Hulk, but I put the idea together, brought up the bishop, bishop saw alone, you know, sweep LA that year. And he said, let's do it. And it happened. So it's, you know, getting, you never know who's watching. You know, that's on that's one of the little things I explained to people you know You know if you're gonna clean out you know bathroom or sweep a floor like do it the right way
Starting point is 00:41:51 Because somebody's watching and it might just change life. That's so powerful Oh my god, you never know whose watch no well listen. He's a 270 out of 365 So so you're working 270 is like having five to eight car accidents a day, 15 to 30 minutes, you're running, jumping, back, dropping, all this stuff. That's insane too, to the, the credit goes to the body by the way, how capable we are. Some of you comes, like, there's no way in the world I can do this, and I'll have four kids, you watch the body, have a baby, you're like, how do you do that? The body is so much more capable than we think we think it is. But going back to what you're talking about here, the greatest of all time, you said, Rick is at the top, Rick Flair, Hawk is in a conversation,
Starting point is 00:42:34 she said all this stuff. But let's go to peak. Who peaked the most for one year, two year, three years? Like, they'll say the greatest box of all time is Ali, right? But the greatest peak of all time, isn't it Tyson? Yeah. So who would be the greatest peak would you put Goldberg at the time? I would say him or Austin because they were so hot. Rock! Rock, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:57 But it was really like, if Austin and McMahon don't have that feud where it basically like given the finger to you to your boss you know and people love that like Steve changed the game the NWO took it like you never would have thought WCW could have competed with WWA but when Austin you know what when we did you know, we kicked their ass for like, Michelle, that's a show, a podcast called 83 weeks. And 83 weeks, we kicked their ass. And then that whole Boston and McMahon thing happened and it started to shift to tied again, you know, and that's where how did that happen? How did the friction between the two happen? What caused
Starting point is 00:43:43 it? What was the difference? That's where, how did that happen? How did the friction between the two happen? What caused it? What was the tipping point? The Vince was probably the, you know, maybe the greatest heal of all time. Because he, yes, he, he fully commits. And he was not afraid to have, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:58 have Austin in this scenario, shine him. And it was really, you know, it's just great television. And, you know, everybody wants to, not everybody, but many people want to knock their boss out. Not true over here, over here. I don't know. I'll put that in a sec. And you say heel, this is someone who plays the villain.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yes. Right? Yes. Walk us through that because I assume most people want to be the hero no the hogan the good guy Know you're saying most of them want to play the heel every pretty much every guy who starts. Yeah, wants to be the heel Really fun to be J. Are you in it's fun? It's easy to get people to hate you It's really hard to get people to love you. You've got to really be vulnerable. You've got to show something that they can identify with. For me, it was the underdog.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Jim Ross called me the greatest overachiever of all time. And in my Hall of Fame speech, I said, to be an overachiever, you must first be an overbeliever. And it's so true. You, when I was in Dustin and Jake in Hall of Fame, and you have to understand, before Jake moved into my place, and anybody who's never seen the resurrection of Jake the snake, it's on Amazon Prime, along with another documentary, we just put out called Relentless. But it's dark because it's addiction, but it will make you laugh. It will make you cry.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Most of all, it will inspire you. Because Jake just didn't burn bridges, as we call that. Jake nuked them. Like he was never going to take, he had said so many bad things about WWE and Vince McMahon. And, you know, again, when you're addicted, you do things that you don't do when you're beating the addiction. What was he addicted to? Boze, pills, coke, crack. You know what I mean? Everything.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And because Jake helped me to be like, I don't ever get without the seros or the diamond house page without Jake. There's no three time world champion. Not the bolt of those guys guiding me when I needed them. I'm not a whole favor. But I was because being 35 like I said earlier was the hardest thing I ever did hitting that mat in the beginning, but it was the best thing that ever happened to me because I was smarter than I would have been at 35. You know what I mean? So I should go to a 25.
Starting point is 00:46:39 You know, 25, I would have done a lot of stupid things and I don't think I ever would have had the career I had. And it was pretty, and everything that I do, it's like when Jake comes into the crib, and I call it the accountability crib, when he comes in there, the number one thing I want him to understand is you are the story you tell yourself that inner voice. You know, we all have it. You know, if it's, this is funny because I'm preparing for a speech I'm not going to do for someone in Georgia's corporation. And about 10 years ago, I heard that Harvard did a, what are the things that I got a group of people together, focus group, focus group. And they, I heard that 72% of the people see things that we were about never happened. So I thought, well, I'm comparing for this. I'm going to actually I'm going to look it up
Starting point is 00:47:45 I want to see that study Harvard never did a study on the worrying thing But Cornell did but it wasn't 72% It was 85% Following people over an extended period of time 85% of the things they worry about never happen and it gets better than that. Of that 15%, 79% handled the
Starting point is 00:48:15 adversity way better than they thought they would and many of them said I'm glad it happened because I learned something from it. So really 97% according to this study my kind of decent school, you know, cord out. I'm top of the line. Um, 90% of things we never would never worry. We were worried about never happen. So again, Jake, let's tell change the story. Like that you tell yourself like when he came in and it was more like he was waiting to die and when someone died, he was pissed it wasn't him. He'd never had dreams anymore because you were so much fog on your brain from the coke and the crack and the booze and the pills.
Starting point is 00:49:05 You know, so when he got there, the first thing I do, and the same thing we talked about this earlier, this show we're filming right now called Change Your Die. And the first thing I do is change what they eat, like no gluten, no dairy, no GMOs, organic, or what God created. You know, because when I get people eating and affects their mindset, they're so beat up and heart-jaking, Scott, we're so beat up and I couldn't believe how bad a sheep they were in physically. You change the food they eat because our food sucks in this country. It's it's criminal what the lobbyists and the big corporations have done to our food.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Just watch food ink, genetic neglect, or GMO OMG. And then you'll have a little bit of an insight. Now these are old things I make people watch and things they have to do to be a part of what I'm doing. So, Jake knows guys, so now they change what they eat, they already start feeling better. Now my workouts, my DDP yoga, or I call DDPY, why? Because I want people to stop calling it just fucking yoga. Because it's not, it's yoga. We have old school calisthenics and something I call dynamic resistance, which is flexing and engaging as you're moving.
Starting point is 00:50:41 So just like lift and weights, time under tension. So what happens every time you flex or engage your muscle, your heart has to be faster to get the blood to the muscle. So what ends up happening is you get in the cardiovascular workout, breaking up scar tissue and creating mobility, strengthening your core at a different level, all with minimal joint impact. Now, you guys, I was sitting here for the last hour.
Starting point is 00:51:09 When I blew up, he's getting up, y'all, watch out. When I, when I blew up, back out, can you get a camera so you can see me. Get a, get a mic closer to your DDP. Okay. So, it's good. You can lift it up. Okay, I'll go try this.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Okay, here we go. So, when I blew my back out this was my flexibility. You know, I've been sitting here the whole time. Right. This is cold. Damn, he's all the way down. Insane. But flexibility. 65 years old. 66. Hey, but who's counting? You look a great core shape. Core bow core strength is a whole different animal. You don't have to stand here and talk to you and grab either one of my feet and grab it and pull it over my head. Yeah, shit.
Starting point is 00:51:48 It had a conversation with you at 6.4, 228 pounds of twisted steel and sex appeal. That's got that's and 66 years young. Your wife doesn't love that move. Whatever that was. My wife makes me love that move, whatever that was. My wife makes me look like I'm not pliable at all. She's amazing. And she's broken her back twice. That's her.
Starting point is 00:52:14 So my point is with the program. What happened to me when I was wrestling with Kevin Nash, and it was a tag match, and Kevin picked me up for the power bomb that he does. He's six foot ten legit and he's throwing me trying to hit me and go flat but when I hit it wasn't that bump it was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. I ruptured my L4 and L5 so God gave us this incredible spine, right? In between, are these amazing things called this?
Starting point is 00:52:48 They're like shock absorbers. Well, take a jelly donut and do that. Now, it becomes bone on bone. And I don't know how I did it. All I know is so much of this reaching and stretching and strengthening. I'm constantly creating traction because I'm trying to pull those bones off each other. I was told by three different spine specials when this happened that I was never rusted again. I just had signed the multi-million dollar big deal and I had never gotten paid for that.
Starting point is 00:53:27 So the money was a factor, but it was more of the dream. I just got there. And now I mean, I'm as high as you can be. I'm up there with everybody, according to pro wrestling illustrated, 97 and 98. I'm number four in the world. Austin's one, I'm four. He the world Austin's one I'm four He's 35. He's 30 32. I'm 42 so I'm I'm easily I'm in the conversation of the top 10 easily and
Starting point is 00:54:05 For me I gotta get back there. I just gotta get back there because I gotta prove you can do this less than three months. I'm that guy in less than three months in less than three months. But I didn't do it. No, 20 minutes a day. I started with 20 minutes a day, twice a day. I was doing yoga in the beginning. In the first three weeks, I thought of significant difference. I was like, wow, this is really helping. I had to figure out modifications. All my workouts are surrounded around modifications. Like I said, bed flex starts off in bed. Chair force sits in a chair, stand strong, holds on to the chair. So you can create balance again and strength and get up and get down. And it just helps you make it easier so you can get to that next spot of breaking up the scar tissue and creating the mobility. Like I said, less than three months I'm back in the ring.
Starting point is 00:54:55 At 42, they said my career is over at 43 on the world champ. Now understand whether, and I put it like this, like world championship, That's our Oscar Okay, US title in the continental. That's our Emmy You know, we didn't so forth like there's dates like you're drawing you're bringing people to the crowd like those belts All these fans have them because it's like it's it's part of the nostalgia that goes with it and It's like it's it's part of the nostalgia that goes with it and It's you know as far as my program. It's just for me in the beginning for years
Starting point is 00:55:36 And I started sharing it with some of my buddies and in 2004 I said I'm gonna make I'm gonna turn this into something so me and my business partner Dr. Craig Aaron we wrote a book on it. We call it Yoga for Regular Guys. Back then, that's what I was calling it. And for years, you know, I made a DVD series up, and it was just the workouts. And then I put together a whole program with the food and the inspirational part and still didn't go anywhere. It took eight years to become an overnight success. And it doesn't usually work that way. That's how it does. It's like the 10,000 hour thing. And in this scenario, Arthurnemann's video went viral and this was a disabled vet that I'd helped who was Five foot six 297 pounds couldn't walk without the nebrices back breaks in a wrap around canes He starts every single person who got my program. It was just DVDs. I would send them an email
Starting point is 00:56:41 It was no auto send today. I do have auto send, but back then there was no auto send. I sent it. I cut, paste, put their name on it, sent it to them. And I said, I'm not trying to sell you anything. I want to thank you. I call people all the time who get my program. I was like, hey, I was Jenny there. Yeah, I was speaking.
Starting point is 00:57:03 I go, this is Jenny there. Yeah, I was speaking. I go this is DDP Who I Know DDP DDP you're calling me Just do anything Does this remind you that does the same thing about it's the most entertaining part of what we do Yeah, that's all people free. Yeah, That's great. People freak out. People freak out. Let me ask you something while we're on this topic.
Starting point is 00:57:29 You've always been a thick guy. I mean, this guy was in the army. He was a body builder. I don't know if you've got these pictures. But this guy is, I mean, we're going to check. You guys have the same size pretty much. But lately, you've been working out more than ever. You're getting up at 6am and you're doing hard core workouts.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Yeah. He's telling you all the benefits. He's 60, 60, so he's bending over it. How much better do you feel since you've changed your physical workout regimen every morning your life? Night and day. Night and day. I mean, it's not even a question about what it does to your body.
Starting point is 00:57:57 If I don't workout, I just don't feel better. It's very weird to display. If you look at that picture right there, look at that guy. Look at that guy. I'm 6-1 one thirty five to the left And then to the right and then the army that's my army barracks on the bottom Oh Pictures it's all flex magazine. It's all angel tevis
Starting point is 00:58:21 Dude, Pat are you kidding me? No, that's not it. Valley Total Fitness Culver City in the basement. You were ready for the wreck. Ha ha ha ha. You, you ain't brother, you listen here right now. But, but to do what he just did at 66 years old, yeah, I'm 43 to be able to do that in 23 years. Right. That's like pinnacle.
Starting point is 00:58:42 The only thing I know what to do is to be 43 years old. I only know 43 and less than that. I have no clue what it is at 66. So that's just major problems and respect for other for you to do what you're doing. The way you, the way you just stood up and did that. So, so you helped that man out. You helped a lot of different guys out to change our lifestyle with the drugs. You were talking about earlier when he said, Jake, I will look at him. He just said, he didn't have another dream. There's no other dream that he was looking forward to. Every time somebody died, he was hoping it's him. So you will help shape that mindset of somebody like him
Starting point is 00:59:16 to look forward to the dream. Is that kind of what you did? Well, he had a really, really, really, really, really, really dark childhood. And he had a really, really, really, really, really dark childhood. And he carried that. And it probably helped them do some really great interviews later. But we were doing, when I proved Jake in my house, and then later Scott as well. Everybody thought I was crazy. Like I was bringing addicts. Like everybody gave up on both of them
Starting point is 00:59:45 Kevin Nash didn't give up on Scott Hall, but besides that everybody given up on both of those guys and when Jake came in I Mean we got interviewed by deadline and you know and Yahoo sports and HBO sports came like everyone was like they were so blown away by the story and I didn't look at it as bringing an attic into my house. I look at it as bringing it by brother who literally both of those guys were very instrumental in my career having the career I had and Jake would when he get on his thing he'd start talking about this dark shit
Starting point is 01:00:21 again and I looked at the guy and I said can can you hold on a second? I just want to talk to him for a minute. And I pulled him in the next room. I said, bro, I get you have this past. But if you keep holding on to this past, we're never going to get by that. I go, what about all the amazing things? You have eight kids and right now, Four of them are talking to you again That's a big deal right it goes of course it is I go yeah
Starting point is 01:00:54 Nobody would book you for more than 500 bucks at the time he's making like 25 hundred I go you're up five times and you're be because people know they can count on you. What about all the amazing things that are happening in your life? And he's just started changing it then. He would walk up the people because he's doing my program, right? And he's feeling so much better. And then at the beginning he's got to use a chair. He's got to use this. He's got to use that all of a sudden. He has to use any of that. And he's so to use a chair. He's got to use this. He's got to use that all of a sudden I didn't use any of that and he's so much stronger has so much more confidence. That's the number one thing a DDP Why builds? Confidence because people can't do that in the beginning bring it to put over their head
Starting point is 01:01:38 But then they can you know, it's crazy I'm watching and I'm listening to the relationship the calls the lifting up the motivation the Looking at Scott and saying here's what I want you to do shave the mustache have a you know four o'clock shave more for my two-clock You know, I've never had this mustache since 15 years old. Don't worry about it. That's the problem. We got to cut it off It's it's the quote you do in the management part at first, but they say you can't do it anymore It's very obvious you would have made a great manager if you would have continued doing that. You're great in sales, you're great in relationship, you could have made a hell of a sales leader, you could have made a hell of a, you know, because
Starting point is 01:02:13 you're also looking at people how you can improve them, right? You're looking at everything on how you can improve them. You're watching tape, you're watching. You could have gone in a different field and done very, very well for yourself whether it was wrestling or not just just from watching that career earning for somebody like you What is career earnings for somebody like you? What kind of money did you make in wrestling? Wrestling was all said and done probably made close to Six or seven million and what did you make outside of it while you're wrestling? I'm talking like sponsorship, you know, stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Did you get a lot of that as well? Oh, okay. There was some, but nothing that was significant. But since then, like, I can say, it took eight years before, it took eight years in wrestling before I made money before my, you know, career blew up. It was an overnight success. Same thing with DDP yoga.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And then both. Eight years. And I've made eight times that. Eight times that. Yeah. Just from your program. Well, maybe six, maybe six times. That's 40 million bucks. That's a lot of money. That's solid money to be able to do that. In wrestling, who's the highest paid of all time? Like who's made the most money? The goat is rich, but I don't think's the highest paid of all time like who's made the most money. I'm the goad is Rick, but I don't think Rick's the highest paid. I get to put the rock up there. I would say I would say Hulk because remember Hulk rocks, if you take overall wealth, the rocks, the king, the rock, the, the rocks, the Mac daddy, because he's making 30 million dollars of movie.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Now, you know, he's talking strictly, not outside. I'm talking strictly wrestling outside. I'm talking strictly wrestling wrestling. I would have seen it over here. I would say John Cena would be up there sure, but I would say Hulk would have been up there. That's not our time though. That's just for the year. Yeah, I'm curious to know what the all time is. I'm curious to know like if it's, you know, all time, highest paid wrestlerler I'd be so curious to know what it what the okay there you go make fully 18 million Chris Jericho 18 million keep going Kurt Angle 25 million interesting you got hawk 25 million. Yeah, but I think that's that worth now what they
Starting point is 01:04:18 That's a network. Yeah, and I don't really know how much of that is because these these are numbers people kind of pull together Vince is easy one to figure out Triple H wouldn't be up there triple. Oh, he absolutely would be Yeah, so yeah, but again, he also is part of the You're talking just wrestling down like money you made Just wrestling because it says rock is worth 400, but it's not from wrestling you made all the wrestling because it says rock is worth 400, but it's not from wrestling. Right. So it is.
Starting point is 01:04:46 It's on everything. But without his wrestling, without his wrestling base, rocks not the rock. Oh my gosh. You know, I mean, when I saw him do Saturday night live the very first time, I said, I said to myself, it's going to be a big start of the world. You knew that. You knew it because he can do anything. Like he told himself guitar.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Like there's things that the rock did. Like he would, I just amazing some of the things that he came up with. Like he wrote a song. You know what he did? He did a song. Like crazy, funny. Stop that.
Starting point is 01:05:18 And he just is just an amazing performer. Like he has changed and opened the door For wrestlers as actors like people cans because wrestling people slaughter people look down their nose Well, guess what Hollywood the biggest star in the world's A wrestler and not a guy walked away from it still does so much stuff for us He's got a show on TV called Young Rock. You know that he produces a kid. Him as a kid with all the wrestlers. He never turns his nose away from his fan base. We're all started. And the Rocks, the most
Starting point is 01:06:00 love guy on the planet. I honestly, God, God believe in I know it's I said this way a long time ago, but he could be the president of the United States. We talk about it all the time. Yeah. And he and he and but I'm serious discussion. But do you really want that? And you know what? He might. I don't know. But I think he would be amazing. I remember one point they were kidding around about it and saying Tom Hector's vice president I think that way they totally kill everybody that what do you think about that video rock did calling out Trump? Where are you? Where is he? Yeah, I can't almost sounded like Batman, you know, he went straight at Trump, bro Yeah, and you know that it took balls because all those friggin red guys they love him
Starting point is 01:06:45 Well, that kind of pissed a bunch of them off Yeah, but you know when people say to me like you were a public in our Democrat. I say I think you both suck You know, I don't think you but either one's trying to help the other which is us the other not trying to help us They don't give you shit about themselves and their own agendas. And they all lie about everything and never get busted. You know, it's mind boggled. Trump would make appearances at WWE. What do you know? I think he didn't fight Vince McMahon. He's a he is a in the celebrity wing Hall of Famer. Yeah. Have you ever had to you ever had to you ever interacted with Trump? Is he ever been there when the whole wrestling
Starting point is 01:07:26 That never was there when he was doing that I met him once when he literally first got with his wife And I was at a Elizabeth Glager eight foundation thing and it was super nice He was super nice. You know the guy You know, I hated this stuff He did on Twitter and I'm now the big whole thing with Elon and Twitter and everything, but you know, I hated Because he really could have just turned the curb He could have turned the curve once he got in there because he's a very charismatic cat, you know, and You know, he could have been I'd to me could have been a bunch better at
Starting point is 01:08:01 Dubling the president thing You know and trying to pull us together, you know, but it is what it is. I think all politicians are bullshit. You brought up the Elon Musk Twitter thing. I mean, this is something we've been talking about for weeks now. I'm sure you've now that it's been 24 hours since it's happened. How are you processing this since yesterday?
Starting point is 01:08:21 They realized the poison pill was going to backfire and they they were gonna be in court for the rest of their lives And finally they cave then they said Elon You know shit we can't do nothing about it. I guarantee you this took place. I'm telling you right now And I may be wrong Lawyers they had a meeting with the legal team, but they said okay What do what can we do at this point if we pull the poison pill? You can pull the poison pill. Just make sure when the market finds out you didn't let Elon Musk buy Twitter
Starting point is 01:08:55 and he sells off as 9.2% of the same amount of shares he owns as Morgan Stanley. Just make sure you can make the stock go up the next three quarters because if it goes below 30 after you push Elon away and he sells off the other 9.2 if it goes below 30 We're gonna be in court for five 10 years if you guys are okay with that then use the poison pill If not let them out by the company and then finally everybody looked around and there were certain people I probably still didn't want to do and they wanted to still use the poison pill But some of the guys that are just on the board to help the company make more money said sell the company. I'm telling you, I think the decision was made that logically and then they sold off to Elon.
Starting point is 01:09:32 They couldn't do anything. Elon, one thing you got to say about this guy, man, listen, you know, named the greatest trolls of all time. Trump's on that list. Trump's, you say, Trump's right. Name the greatest trolls of all time. Jack Paul's up there. These, they call, Jake Paul's coming up, but he's a young troll. Yeah. I'm talking like legend. the greatest trolls of all time J calls up there. These they call Jake Paul's coming up, but he's a young troll
Starting point is 01:09:46 Yeah, I'm talking like legend. They read trolls of all time. You got to put him up there You got to put uh, uh, you know Who else would you put in the wrestling world and UFC? You got to put Conor in that world as a great Troll I'm talking in the pond talking getting under the skin type of a, you know, text exchange came up, right? You want to show the text exchange between the Gates. I don't know if you saw this or not. So here's a text exchange that came out, make it a little smaller so we can see it. So the first text goes out.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Can you do it or not? We have a top part of it apparently. So apparently Bill Gates had something to discuss philanthropy on climate change, but Elon asked if he still had a half a billion out of short on Tesla, Bill said, yes, he hasn't closed it out. So Elon told them to get lost. No idea if this is true. LOL.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Well, Elon responds. Here's what he said on the bottom right there. He says, do you still have a half a million dollars? I've heard him say, he says, sorry, but I cannot take your philanthropy on climate change. Seriously, when you have a massive short position against Tesla, the company doing the most to solve climate change. And so people ask Elon Musk and look what he said, go out and click on his Twitter account to see if this is bullshit.
Starting point is 01:10:57 And if this is real, right? Now you should first go to his account. And then you can go to that trolling. He responds, go a little lower. You'll see one of the ones when he responds. And he says, that is the tech exchange. I don't know who got it. Go a little lower, go a little lower. Ah, he responds somewhere there that he did respond. Okay. Anyways, go back to the post that he put up their Bill Gates and then he posted this in case you need to
Starting point is 01:11:18 lose a boner fast. That's Bill Gates and that image of Apple. So you're basically saying that Elon Musk is one of the greatest trolls of all time So what I'm saying is what I'm saying to you is what I'm saying to you is this guy cornered Twitters bored to say I dare you to not let me buy the company. I dare you. I think that's how it happened What was the poll you did yesterday about Elon Musk? I asked the question. I said what percentage of you? How will you react with Elon Musk? What do you call it buying Twitter number one? Are you leaving and I said number two? Will you be more active number three? You know, you know, devil shit. Yeah, something like that
Starting point is 01:11:59 And I'll be more active nothing will change and then who cares? You know how many people said we're leaving two percent? Everybody was like, yeah, I'm gonna be more active, nothing will change, and then who cares? You know how many people said, leaving 2%. Everybody was like, yeah, I'm gonna be more active. The one that won the most was I'll be more active. Don't forget what Elon did, Elon came out and he said, do you guys know the top 10 most followed people on Twitter? They rarely ever tweet. He says, do you know that Justin Bieber hasn't tweeted
Starting point is 01:12:22 about so many times? Do you know that such and such person? Do you know that Barack Obama only tweets this many times? Why do we have the top biggest accounts that are not active on Twitter? He's asking the right question. The whole blu-ch, you know that everybody wants that blue check mark. He says, why don't we just give the blue check mark to everybody that pays $2.99 a month? Why don't we do that?
Starting point is 01:12:40 If you pay $2.99 a month, let's get rid of all the bots. If you pay $2.99 a month, you're get rid of all the bots if you pay 299 a month You're not fake because all these people are creating these fake accounts. Let's eliminate all these fake accounts That are out there because they're not paying 299 a month. I mean, I love what this guy's doing So anybody and everybody can get the blue chip if you pay 299 a month whatever the fee is gonna be now He's allowing you know the new CEO made a few changes that they allow you to put 10 minute videos We couldn't do that before there's 220 now you can't put a 10 minute video anyways the markets very very happy However, yesterday the legendary Brian stelter, which I don't know if you follow him. He's a famous wrestler
Starting point is 01:13:17 He goes by the thumb He's a famous I can't we can't play that but he said something he says well I just want you to think about this imagine you have two parties to go to one party You can say whatever you wanted say and you're free and another party you go to people have to be a little bit more Responsible with what they say which party would you want to go to and then somebody comments on my tweet And he says I can't imagine him having ever been to a single party in his life before Because the biggest thing is people don't believe the guys dirty four years old that guy took a leftist 34 years old That's just about a 34 years old Brian to yourself a favor is the contact diamond Dallas page
Starting point is 01:13:56 Yeah, I'm how to look younger He needs ddpy more than anybody He needs DDPY more than anybody. He will. Back back to Elon Musk. We're on the topic right now. Did you see the latest with Jack Dorsey now? You see what Jack Dorsey had to say about Elon. I sent that to you on Slack.
Starting point is 01:14:11 What do you think Jack Dorsey's response about Elon buying Twitter is? First of all, what do you think? Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. How many conversations do you think Elon and Jack have had in the pros of him buying Twitter? What do you not stop? Are you kidding me? Like you know how he said he said it's a it's a family brotherhood.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Yeah. Do these guys are paypal mafia brotherhood. All the text thing calling them live by a certain code that nobody else knows about Jack's known it for longest time. Ilan's already told Jack I want you to be on the board. You know, all this conversations. They've already had the conversations and on top of that what did come out yesterday Which was interesting because I said the five things that was gonna happen once Elon bought it I said number one. He's gonna buy Twitter take it private number three. He's gonna do whatever he's doing with Brady's picture to be eliminated Then it's gonna be Trump's gonna be back and he's going to lose their mind and all this stuff. But the one thing that the story is
Starting point is 01:15:07 not coming out is even if Twitter lets Trump back on, he may not want to come back on because he's still pushing true. Oh, get out of here. It's true. Social was yesterday. True socially has officially put the nail in the coffin. You don't think he's just going to come back to Twitter now. That's now true social. That's right. Trump will not return to Twitter, even as Elon Musk purchased his platform will begin his own true social. Yeah, well, I don't think that's a smart move. I don't think that's a smart move.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Not a smart move. No, I don't think you can go back to Jack Dorsey's quote about Elon. As I say, even Melania doesn't use truth. Like the only person that uses truth is Trump. And nobody can get on it, right? To Elon is the singular solution I trust. That's some pretty high praise. But it's not, it's not, this is, he said this to Elon before he said it to public. He said this to Elon before he said it. It's all a work.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Yeah. That's what we call it. Our business. It's, it's all set up. Yeah. And for this cat with all the resilience that Dollar G has, he's kind of knowing when he has a plan. And the plan, as I just said, was already discussed before it everyone out there. And he already knew who the votes were coming in that he needs. And who else in the yo was going to partner with them, you know, to me, I don't believe anything anymore. You know, it's like, just do your thing, you want to
Starting point is 01:16:24 go for it. Yeah. Well,'s like, just do your thing, Elon. Go for it. Well, you know what they say, everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face. And that's what happened, honestly, by Mike Tyson, the guy in the flight, did you see that? That was, that pissed me off so bad. Like that, I watched that kid, he was really aggravating.
Starting point is 01:16:41 I don't know why the stewardess didn't come over and go, you, sit out, shut up. Yeah, I mean something. I mean he would really He had a record apparently he had a record and he's been I don't know there was some stories about the guy that came up about Him having a record. Did you see that title or no? Yeah, he has several different charges. He's been arrested for look Yeah, clearly the guys got a screw loose if you're talking shit to Mike Tyson. Clearly you've got a, you know, allowed mouth that you're drinking from.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Or an agenda agenda. You know, a few minutes a time. So, so here's my question. DDP, you're a massive dude. I mean, how often does somebody say, what's up, DDP, you gotta go? Nobody talks, try something else, do you? Never.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Everybody made it who I am. And the people who don't, you know, you can see by the way I carry myself I'm not the guy. I know you just say to yourself with my wife That's a different story. But with me you can't piss me off. I just you know, I'll eliminate yeah your voice What do you think? I don't get I really don't get that ever because like I help a lot of people But what do you think was going through Tyson's mind? I mean, I'm talking oh my god I really don't get that ever because like I help a lot of people But what do you think was going through Tyson's mind? I mean, I'm talking oh my god I'm putting yourself in a position of a high-profile major athlete tough guy which you are and Tyson is sitting on the plane
Starting point is 01:17:56 You know doing his things probably on a mushroom or two and certainly high and this jackass is just going off on him I'm getting the story I'm getting the stewardess and go can you move that asshole? Yeah, or can you shut him up? You know, he's bothering my wife But I'm not gonna let him step into my space You know, okay, when you're in this scenario, they're there is there is an ulterior motive It's not just maybe in the beginning was a little excited about it, but after a while He's just being an asshole. He has no respect for anyone's space, and he's got some kind of issue.
Starting point is 01:18:31 But the stewardess is, they're pretty strict these days. It's not 11, it's a different animal. How did this stewardess, was he the first one? The internet never lose it. It's undefeated. Look at this, right? They're martial, and Mike Tyson being the shit out of some guy How did the students not show up how did other people not see what was about to go on again?
Starting point is 01:18:55 I thought I'm looking at that. I'm going is this work. I mean where is Now what kind of and Mike doesn't deserve to be treated like that in any way shape or form Can you talk about a guy's turn just life around? Interviewed him for an hour. Yeah, and it was one of the coolest things talking to that guy But question for you how many guys who were in wrestling Let's just say he lost to another guy that was the one day, you know, let's just say Vance or Eric is building a guy up to be like a face and you lost, but how many guys were like, well, listen,
Starting point is 01:19:32 if this was a real fight, I'd beat the hell out of it. Was there any guys like that that were like, of course, street fighters that were like, I would crush if we got into a street fight. Yeah, but it's not why you get into the business. It's a show. Yeah, it's a show. The early years, like yeah, they called them shooters.
Starting point is 01:19:48 You know, like, if you didn't want to lose, you weren't losing. Like nobody was going to move Andre to giant around. If he didn't want to be let moved around, you know, because Andre was like, and Big Show was the same way. I remember Big Show was wrestling with him. And I did this one spot. And Big Show was, you know, seven foot one, 500 pounds. Just a shack size.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Yeah, shack size. Yeah. Bigger, bigger. Wow, they stood against each other. Look at that. Yeah, there they are, right there. And I go to shoot him off, he reverses me and he goes to close line me and I hooked him
Starting point is 01:20:21 and I'm, his arms like this, my legs are really my arms are here. And then I slide down and I'm on his arms like this. My legs are over here. My arms are here. And then I slide down and now I'm laying on my back and I'm trying it's called a sunset flip. I'm trying to pull them over and it's a giant spotty. Whoa, whoa. And then he reaches down and he grabs him by the throat, right? And he's going to pick me up. Now I'm on my back. I'm going to give him a boost. I'm going to push and slide so it makes it easier. My foot slipped and now I'm dead waiting him and he picks me up like I'm five. I'm 255 pounds.
Starting point is 01:20:58 That's the big show you're talking about. Yes. Picks me up like I'm mad. I'm mad. Right. So I've been big show DDP holy crap you picks you up like you're five like I was five years old and I'm looking down everyone whoa because you could really see like it was a shoot and he's got me
Starting point is 01:21:14 by the throat here I'm looking down on my go okay now don't kill me and just fit me and drop you on my back but uh yeah it was uh just a like moments like that really stick out my in type like okay, yeah, it was uh, just a, like moments like that really stick out my in type like, okay, let me ask you, it's a past question. This is a real question. Yeah. He asked like, you know, competitive nature, who doesn't want to lose? If you actually had to pick a tag team partner in a real life fight, like, oh shit is going down, you know, and I want this guy. I got one guy that's on my side and a real fight is happening who's your first pick his name would be Ming also went by tongue tongue tongue which is his real name
Starting point is 01:21:56 yeah some of when dude freaking sweetest guy on the planet but who you would not want to be on a bedside really pull them up. Yeah. This guy was a certified bad. I put up a put up M I N G. There's right there. He looks like he's got the wine shirts off. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:15 With a king, the king thing. No, why is he your first pick? Because he was just notorious for, you know, frigging everyone, you know, like bad sky life for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you for you know, for you know, for you for you know, for you know, for you for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, for you know, like in a bar fight because they would like some why would you pick on that guy or challenge that guy? Like and I look at for trouble. Yeah. And I don't I don't know the exact story. But I mean, what what are the greatest, sweetest guys you've ever met though? How do you balance being like you're saying, the greatest, sweetest guy ever with also being able to beat the shit out of five guys at once
Starting point is 01:23:05 How does that ying yang balance work because he was a great human being and you know he was also badass You can be both. Yeah, you like you could be a man and also do ddp. Why you'll absolutely and friggin Chuck Zito You know Chuck Zeele's one of the baddest some bitches on a planet, but he is a freaking sweetheart, man You know guy was president of the hell's angels New York chapter for 25 years. Sweetheart guy, man I got his question because you know the NFL you had a Marvin Harrison that who you know legendary player Why receiver? Yeah, yeah, of course, but you know like the Reputation Marvin. He was feared by everybody. Marvin had, you know, links to gangs and, you know, murder, you know, some some real stories. Ray Karuth, everybody sees and knows like,
Starting point is 01:23:54 oh, he went to jail. Jack Mad Jones, you know, some of those stories. But Marvin was like, you just don't cross the line with Marvin Harrison. He had that. You didn't know that. No, you should look at him. Marvin Harrison is known as a guy that was feared, respected. You didn't cross that guy. That's why sometimes you wonder the background of these guys. By the way, different style, Eric Bisch, you talk about Eric who, you know, he's doing what he's doing. And you said, if you were to continue, you know, at one point, you guys are competing. Those guys are about to lose, bankruptcy, all this stuff. What is the biggest difference between Eric and the way Vince led and Mark it and told story. What was the difference? Well, I think we're in anything and this was was great when Bishop was running
Starting point is 01:24:33 WCW even we're doing great. It was constant conflict with the office meaning like To turn our people who we owned by Ted Turner not Ted, but their people looked down at wrestling and When Vince was fighting for his life His whole company is a wrestling superstars. You know, you took away word wrestling. Whatever. You know, so sports entertainers It's his company. It's his lifeline. It's his legacy. It's everything. And Eric didn't have that. If he could have been doing it on his own, who knows what would have happened. But, you know, you know, when you work in the corporate world, Joe, you know, you've been all through that. And it's so hard. Then there's the jealousy thing.
Starting point is 01:25:18 And, you know, all that. When it's your company and it's your brand, your company and your brand. Yes. Like, and Vince is the really the one with Hulk that changed the whole format. You know, who gets a lot of credit for that story you just told Dana White, because Dana, she's only a 10% owner of the company. And Dana was able to work, politics, WME, two owners came, they bought it for two million, he got 10% and he was still able to move it up, even though it's not his company. He's only a 10% guy, the company is not like his 51%. There's a difference between Dana and Vince, but Dana still was able to pull off the product. Which product to the audience that does it? I'm going to show something here on the internet. I want these guys to see on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:26:01 But which one do you, do you think UFC today's surpassed the audience and the eyeballs that wrestling gets or do you think wrestling is still ahead of UFC? I think that UFC would be bigger at this point because I think it's very cyclical wrestling. It's up and it's down and it's really like, it's harder now to really understand how many people are watching and give you an example.
Starting point is 01:26:25 And this is genius. So everybody thought it was like, oh, God, what a waste of time. WWE Network. You know, oh, they're losing money. They're this, they're that and everything. Well, I guess it was two years ago. Vince leased, not sold, but leased the network to peacock for $1 billion. For five years, least, least.
Starting point is 01:26:53 They don't own shit. They are using, because they, what is the most important thing on any whether it's paramount peacock content, 1,000%. Well, now we've got a ton of different shows It looked like when Vince was going to you know W.w.f Whether you trade a ww. Oh my god or
Starting point is 01:27:13 Roondis brand and they spent all his years of young Vince fought for it didn't get it Best thing ever happened to this. I'm gonna use an example. This is second, but so many times What looks like the worst thing never happened to you can be the best. And what when I blew, when I tore my rotator cuff and they let me go when I was 36, Jake came and lived with me for three months and then got me booked wherever we went to. He became my mentor on how I told stories. And it took years to really become a really good storyteller. But if I don't tear my rotator cup and get fired,
Starting point is 01:27:57 that never happens when I blow my back out. And they tell me my wrestling career is over. And I've just signed this multi-million dollar contract it's gonna go bye bye and I come back great that I get back and live the dream but what looks like the worst thing never happened to me is not only the best thing ever happened to me it's the best thing to happen to Jake, to Scott, to people who are in a change or die. I've got hundreds of thousands of transformations. When I tell people, don't listen to a word, I say about DDP yoga, don't
Starting point is 01:28:36 let's know word, community. One of my buddies, Chris Gabriano, started this just page on Facebook. Just's the regular page. DDP yoga, one word. And it was a thousand people. And then there was five. And now there's over 70,000 people. You have to read that page. You will never believe what people put up there. You see, remember, and we both do this.
Starting point is 01:29:05 We call people. We show people we really actually give a shit about what we're doing. That's very, very, very rare. So in this scenario, anyone who came to this one site I had originally called Teen DDP Yoga, I would welcome them. Every single person, me. And then it built into this thing on Facebook, which they saw the way I would come through and talk to people. And I do the likes and I put comments, it's me. Stop for somebody imitating me. And I'll get on there
Starting point is 01:29:39 for like two hours and just do that. So much so my app, my DDP yoga now app, which I always tell people don't go to iTunes or Google Play. They charge too much. I don't charge anywhere near as much if you go to ddp yoga.com and I give you seven days free to try it. The bottom line is every Monday's motivational Monday. Every Tuesday there's a new workout. By the way, there's over 300 of both of those. Everyone's a new cooking show. Gluten free dairy free, healthy, great, tasting food because I don't care how healthy something is. If it don't taste great, I'm not eating it. Not eating it. And how I feel is what when I'm feeding feeding my bodies how my body is healing itself Your food will heal you and food will fuck you fake food
Starting point is 01:30:33 Like you've never get me to eat fast fake food Abber now. I know it's in it. I'm not eating that shit But again healing your body so back to back to the fabulous, the fabulous Fridays, I just go on that Facebook page. 70,000 people, you know, subjects keeps rolling through. So I go on there and I just start picking stories. Because I want to read someone's story and what they wrote and the pictures they put up of themselves. Because I've got those six pictures front side, both forward, and one of them's put the foot up in the air.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Can't fake that shit. So when you see a person who can't pick their foot up the ground, a foot, and then six months later, it's holding over his head, that's core strength at different level. But the stuff that they write, can you pull up on Facebook, pull it up there, and let's let's see if what people
Starting point is 01:31:26 DDP yoga one word on Facebook. Yeah, one word Facebook and let's just see just some of the Okay, just just zoom down. I think that's a DDP yoga one. I'm talking about the members one. Just go up there and just put it in the search DDP yoga one word. And you're saying one word because they get the affinity to describe DDP. No, no, just one one word. I wrote it. I originally would write it.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Yo, um, just pull it. Can you pull it Facebook? Tyler, you're about to get you're about to get a down. Right now, buddy. By the way, we do have a few callers that people want to talk to you. Sure. I'm going to fix them callers. Sure. But at both side point, you wouldn't believe that.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Yeah. Shit, the pictures, the link. What would link would you want guys to go if they want to find out more about it? Do you want to go to an website or? No, I want to. Yeah, go to the website. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:32:20 And that guy, do you believe that? But look at it right next to him. Where is 1000 hours on the app? Sure. Look at that. This guy do believe that but look at it right next to him where is thousand Hours on the app shirt look at that look how much better he looks when he's wearing the shirt of But the women put up those pictures Look at this drew it to terms of the changes life in 16 months He went from 390 to 210 saying now he's owning his life by sharing his story insane with others and that's about a motivational Monday is owning his life by sharing a story in sync with others. And that's about a motivational Monday. Mother.
Starting point is 01:32:45 And that's, and that's, that's all my company one. You got to, the one I'm talking about is when members go and they help each other. There's never been a community like it. And that's the biggest thing on the proudest of the general Victor Rivera. Victor Rivera. Yeah. I know the name of Victor Rivera. Okay. Somebody asked in a question. Do you know Victor Rivera? I. I know the name. Vickter Rivera.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Okay. Somebody asked in a question. Do you know, Vickter Rivera? I don't know what that question means. Is he a wrestler? No, I know a guy. Okay. No, he's not a wrestler.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Okay. Let's bring Vickter Rivera right now. Luis Maseo just asked the question, Dallas. They say competition breeds innovation. Do you think Vince will ever have competition like the Monday night wars again? I can't imagine it, you know, just because the, the AEW, which is the new wrestling program out there is really good and the product is really good. But it's like the WWE is, I was out there at WrestleMania, they did two nights in a row
Starting point is 01:33:40 of WrestleMania, went over 78,000 people one night and 84,000 the other night. Two nights of it. It's crazy. I have a quick question about these people, right? Because I it's been forever since I've been to a wrestling match. But you talked about being in LA and then going to Kansas City and then coming down to form, I mean, just like, what's the crowd like at these wrestling events? What type of people? What type of energy? What are like, maybe a, I'm not saying politically, just like what's the crowd like at these wrestling events? What type of people, what type of energy?
Starting point is 01:34:06 What are like, maybe I'm not saying politically, but like philosophically, what are they? Stand for it. Tell us about the crowd at these events. The people who love wrestling, love wrestling, you know, and they appreciate it. They know it's a show and they care about the characters and their ravenous man like you know You can't imagine
Starting point is 01:34:31 Like unless you're really at a live event. You've never seen wrestling. You know because when you see how They're part of the show. You know, it's like people like, oh, God, they're booing him or they're cheering him. It's really you want them to do either. You don't want them to do nothing. That's right. powerful. You don't want them to do nothing. By the way, so do we have callers? Yes, we have Julian on the phone. Julian, how are you? Good. How you doing? fantastic. So what question do you have for DDP? My question is, did you get paid off of your likeness being used in the Nintendo games that you're a part of?
Starting point is 01:35:15 And were you involved in any of the production in the games? Yeah, I always got paid. We got some kind of vague. The company gets the major part of the vague. And we get a little piece, but it's still, hey, it's, I call it mailbox money. I've always had anything to do with my character. I want to be there and go through the moves. And they, like today today they can put these
Starting point is 01:35:45 things all over you. I mean I just did one the other day where you're wearing the suit and the way you walk and I've got a pretty distinct swag walk that for you and you can tell like that characters that person or you know how they do their gestures and stuff so that's pretty interesting know how they do their gestures and stuff so that's pretty interesting the way they do it today it's like these these video games look like the real piece shit it looks it doesn't look like a video game you feel like you're watching a show right it's like you stepped into it so Nelson here says I love you DDP your my're my childhood hero. Can you talk about your experience
Starting point is 01:36:26 filming the Guardians of Justice? Love your Batman-esque character. That's a new show that just came out. It's an Audi Shankar experience, a buddy of mine who is a very talented cat, and he's always way far ahead of the cutting edge. He put together. We were shooting this originally for YouTube. It was just gonna be a bunch of shorts. And then we had some pretty good stuff there. So he thought, well, let's turn it into a movie.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Because he's been a part of Jo and Walk Among the Ptoom Stones and the Grey and Judge Tred. So he's a real producer. And it was too long by the time we got there. And in the meantime, he was doing something different with a show called Castlevania on Netflix And they were like what else do you have any brought up cardants of justice and then They started editing all the CGI and there's eight different types of 2D animation 3D animation and
Starting point is 01:37:22 Claymation worked into this story that's a series, you know, seven episodes, dark satire. And I, you know, Batman never gets older than 40, right? Batman never gets older than 40. But Nighthawk, he's in his 60s and he drinks and he smokes and he takes pain killers because he needs them and he kills for the greater good. You know, and he knows how to save the world. And it was a lot of fun to do and now I'm a legitimate superhero. That's pretty sick. Okay, John, let's take one more caller. We have Sammy on the line.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Sammy, how you doing? Sammy, can you hear me? Yes, I can. Fantastic. So what's your question for DDP? Yes, my question is, I'm not receiving the value that I'm paying for at university. I'm going to drop out.
Starting point is 01:38:20 I'm worried that I'm making a terrible mistake. What are you guys thoughts on that? What do you think about that? This kid's going to college. He's thinking he's wasting his time. Should he drop out or continue going to school? You know, I don't, you know, to me, I think every person who gets out of high school, first of all, I love what Israel does when they make them go writing the new army for a year. You know, it's a great way to learn and grow. And a lot of people was like, my daughter took off three years before she started college. She didn't like it. She went and then she
Starting point is 01:38:50 came back and then she knew what she really wanted to do. I don't think it depends on old y'all, Sammy. You know, it depends on what you really believe and what your passion is. One thing I can tell you in all three of us get this, whatever it is you're going to try to do, it should be something you love to do. Because the key is to find something that you love to do and figure out a way to get someone to pay you to do it. Because that's really what, it's not the American dream, it's the dream world dream. And a lot of people are just going to school to go and get compiling all that debt,
Starting point is 01:39:26 you know, like I've made my daughter food when it came down to it, like fill out all your loan papers. Well, because I'm not going to do that for you. I want you to do it. I'm not going to saddle you with that. You're going to, you know, and then and she dropped out and then she came back and now she's in that, you know know and she she's doing what she loves to do So then you never feel like you're working Right good for but by the way it the story with you and Jay-Z What happened to with the time and stuff with you and I read about them like this can't be real But apparently it was a real story. It was real. All's. I'm a lot of saying you'll appreciate you says the
Starting point is 01:40:02 How I say now it's been so long since I've said anything but the matter has been resolved. And I tell you, I got a lot of respect for Jay-Z, just what he's done, you know, to help a lot of people too, you know, so, I got a lot of respect for him. There's a difference between what he does and what you do. Look at this Tyler put this up there. Remember one, Jay-Z paid royalties to Diamond. For hand just now. I can read this. But Diamond Dallas, it's pretty epic.
Starting point is 01:40:31 Because- But it's not the same thing. Well, here's my hands. We're open, it's gold. But it was all the same thing. And you own the diamond, baby. Yeah, you know, it's like he can do whatever he wants with it. It was the guy that wanted to be who was the guy that bought
Starting point is 01:40:46 the trademark to three-peat. Was it Pat Riley? Yes, because he wanted and then somebody used it and he sued him. He says, no, that's fine. Do you know this? I think that had Riley owns. He owns three-peat. He owns three-peat. Are you guys watching winning time on HBO Max? Oh, you can magic Johnson pie right. I'm not watching that we watch man in the arena. And last time I was that good. It's a good. This is this is so good to me. Uh, like I John C Riley is playing Jerry bus. Yeah, the kid who's playing magic. You're going to think it's magic. Like
Starting point is 01:41:22 it's he's so good. I mean, I got to watch it. I haven't seen there's a part where Karim of Dolje bars talking to magic's dad and you know, magic's a happy with everybody. And he's and you know, Karim, you know, they don't like pretty stoic. He goes, so he's always been this happy. And he goes, yeah, he goes, so what are you from in here and his dad says like I'm from Mississippi So I've seen it all you know from the hanging corpse. Yeah, and he can scream goes he goes Yeah, you have and then the young the magic guy is just he's just and the guys can ball
Starting point is 01:42:02 I mean these guys can, it's a really fun. How many of us? How many? I want to say there's a pump six in right now. Oh, it's six in and it's all about magic. It's no, it's about magic coming, Jerry Bus, you know, buying the company and how he did it. I want to know that.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Oh, Jerry Bus, I'm interested. Oh, dude, you get it, you get it. Love it because it's, it's a one-like What Vince McMahon did Vince McMahon leveraged everything To get the company was making all these promises Because that's what he saw and then it happy oh visions everything like from when when The movie the documentary we have also right now It's called relentless and it goes from me blowing my back out to where we are today
Starting point is 01:42:50 And stone called Steve Austin that he lived with me in LA when I was putting this whole thing together and He's like kid. What do you think and you're never gonna get people to do yoga? Who wouldn't be caught dead doing yoga? He's like kid, what do you think? And you're never going to get people to do yoga. Who wouldn't be caught dead doing yoga? It's not that I don't believe in you kid, because you're a miracle worker. But you know, the bottle. He's calling you kid.
Starting point is 01:43:13 We call it kid. But he didn't get it. And the bottom line is I saw it. And I would tell people at the time, when I find Dr. Jake and Hall of Fame, I said, never underestimate the power you give someone by believing in them. More importantly, never underestimate the power you give yourself by believing in you. And that's what it takes. And I got kid who called
Starting point is 01:43:41 earlier, you need to believe in what you're doing, Sammy, and what you're in what your focus is. Sammy, listen out, man, what an advice. So daughter goes to college. I want you to sign the pay for that. Me. And then she drops out and then she goes and becomes an editor. Well, yeah, she got a free, got a degree and she got a job. But on her own, she chose to she did all her stuff. Well, DDP, first of all, this has been a blast having you on and really enjoyed it I'm so glad we did this to stories the motivation. It's like combination of a bunch of different things again I'm looking at you as a personality. You could have made one a hell of a sales leader manager Agent for many stars the way you
Starting point is 01:44:26 motivation speak. I mean, he is a motivational speaker, but the point is this could have gone many different angles. This was a blast. Have anyone. By the way, gang, in an hour, we're going to flip the set around DDP and his new wife page is going to come on my show, the saucecast, and it's going to be like the late night show. Like the half party. And by the half party. And Adam's very, very prepared for this interview.
Starting point is 01:44:49 So don't miss out one. For that. We'll see you guys there. Take care everybody. Bye bye, bye, bye, bye.

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