PBD Podcast - Reaction to Israel War | Tim Pool and Jimmy Dore | PBD Podcast | Ep. 312

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Starting point is 00:00:40 Look, for those of you guys joining us on Saturday morning, okay, 9 a.m. 6 a.m. Pacific Standard Time to hear two legends at the same time in one podcast podcast number three, twelve with Tim Poole and Jimmy Doranahouse. We're going to have a very unique show. We got a lot of things to cover today. We had a great event with you last night. You're even in Miami. That was fantastic with yourself. Math Gates, Oak Heath, Luke and my literal pharma guy, what big pharma? Literally, who is funny as hell. Yeah, he's funny. So we had a good time.

Starting point is 00:01:14 But yeah, it was fantastic yesterday. Just listen to everybody. The exchange. I thought it was a great event. I think you stole the show. You had that great, we'll call it speech about, you know, you say you don't pray for tolerance anymore, you have to hope, all that stuff, the crowd went nuts, they all stood up, gave you standing a face and big standing ovation, PBD, standing ovation at a podcast

Starting point is 00:01:33 is pretty freaking impressive. Yeah. Congrats, man. That was awesome. And just on a personal note, your boys, Luke, Ian, Shamist, even awesome crew you got, man, congratulations. Oh yeah, I mean, and, and you know, Shamist hosts Freedom Tunes. It's he produces a that's his own show Luke of course,

Starting point is 00:01:49 if we are changed so that they're running their own business as well to be able to have them come down is an honor Honor in a privilege as well as you Patrick. It was just a dream come true man and talk about the timing. We booked this. We've been working for a year and so when this past week happened with met gates fighting in congress and then i'm looking at the calendar i'm like we are very well that that that

Starting point is 00:02:13 sometimes i'm looking down yeah that was great jimmy how you been jimmy and that gets a terrorist and he's really crazy chaos and i don't know why he doesn't follow the norms yeah i'm really offended and uh... you know the democrats don't know why he doesn't follow the norms. Yeah, I'm really offended. And you know, the Democrats don't have these kind of broad. And they all followed line and locked step, then they're proud of it. Right.

Starting point is 00:02:31 Pfizer, they know they're real nice. He should just be nice to the lobbyists and the pharmaceutical companies. I thought he was way more likeable than the media portrays him. He was actually, well, you actually went to college with me at the right around the same time. We did the math there. But yeah, yeah, congratulations on landing that right at the Shout out to Matt first send over didn't they go after so they went after Matt gates like a year or two ago because they knew They couldn't control them and they tried to pin him out and being a pedophile

Starting point is 00:02:57 and yeah, and That's that that's the game They did still in the sides and doing it to Rusty Rockets. They're doing it. They did it through the line of signs, and doing it to rusty rockets, they're doing it to, they did it to, like, oh, that's right, they already tried to do that to him. And it's because they knew they couldn't control him. And so I loved when he gave that speech on the floor talking about, I'm gonna, this body is bought and by the big donor money, and they booed him.

Starting point is 00:03:19 Only place in the world that would get a boo is in Congress when you're saying that the government's bought by big money donors. And if anywhere else in the world they would cheer him but inside Congress that's how corrupted boo and he said go ahead and boo because I'll be raising more money through small dollar donations and I'm going to go right to the peak. He talked about the last night as well. He brought that up. By the way, we have a lot of things to cover.

Starting point is 00:03:40 Okay, a lot of things to cover. We got the Israel Palestine issue that just took place. We'll talk about that. Want to get your thoughts on that. We got to talk about Matt Kates, McCarthy. We'll get into that as well. Donald Trump followers being targeted by the FBI. 2024 election story just came out.

Starting point is 00:03:54 Hillary Clinton talking about there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the Trump cult members. We'll show that clip and react to it. Ron DeSantis jabs at Trump says he would be a lame duck president if elected. Trump fears being poisoned using individual mini-ketch of bottles. Pulse about RFK, Cursing of RFK juniors, independent one could pull from Trump or from Biden. That's a conversation a lot of people are having.

Starting point is 00:04:18 Biden administration, Jimmy, you'll be very impressed with this one here. They have decided to build a wall, which is such an honorable thing to do. Racists, that's some red racists. Well, I hope they break all the environmental rules that they set up to do it. Which, that's the story by the way. So then we'll talk about Ukraine, curious, you know what your thoughts are today

Starting point is 00:04:35 with Ukraine, especially the story that came out saying, fewer Americans support arming Ukraine. A poll that came out, diversity numbers amongst delegates, trigger alarm at DNC meetings. And then we'll talk about a head of 2024, felons are fighting to regain the right to vote. I don't know if this is felons, I don't know if it's a party trying to get felons

Starting point is 00:04:55 to get the right to vote, but either way we'll talk about it. Putin is saying America always needs an enemy, he's talking nuclear, he's talking big game, we'll play clip react to that. Your boss might just give you a race for showing up to the office. Bosses are given raises if you work from office.

Starting point is 00:05:09 I was here early, I was here early, but that's why you got a race. You got a race. Let's go, baby. And Adidas Kanye West didn't mean the anti-Semitic remark. He's like, definitely want to get through all of this. But I say we start off, I say we start off with Israel and Palestine.

Starting point is 00:05:24 I mean, this literally just happened. How much are you following the story would what happened? not at all okay are you Jimmy out off all on it? no I haven't okay so this is what we woke up to it yeah and this happened So why don't we read Rob if you got one of the stories or video clips to show Israel says it's at war after surprise attack from Gaza Netanyahu even said we're at war. Did you say last week Hamas attacked Israel? 200 Israeli? 200, Hamas is claiming that last week alone,

Starting point is 00:05:55 200 Palestinians were killed, and this is one of their payback attacks. But they planted it's a holiday. It's a Jewish holiday today, isn't it Adam? Well, here's what's going on. Last week was Yom Kippur, which is the holiest day on the Jewish calendar. It's the day of atonement.

Starting point is 00:06:12 And this attack took place. Talk about symbolism on the 50th day of the anniversary of the Yom Kippur War, which was in 1973. So do you want to get into some of the details? Yeah, I'll go for it. Well, coinciding sort of with all this, I don't know how close you guys pay attention to Israeli politics. It's not exactly, I wake up and read Israeli politics,

Starting point is 00:06:35 but I was just there. I took my mom for her first time in 30 years. And she lived on a kid's boots back in the day. I went for a wedding. And you saw the protests that were going on against BB Netanyahu, okay Benjamin Netanyahu, who was the longest standing prime minister in Israeli history.

Starting point is 00:06:53 I think this is his 16th year, his fifth term that started in early 2000 or late 90s. He's only just been around forever. But the whole premise with him right now is he runs a LaKood party, sort of a trump of Israel. Basically, he's sort of the right wing there, and he's been accusations of fraud and embezzlement, and what have you. You know, whether that's right or wrong, that's the sort of sort of going on. But where he's come under heat lately is because he's basically trying to reform the supreme court because he feels they're too liberal.

Starting point is 00:07:29 So the platform that he's been running on is that he's the guy that's going to make Israel safe. Okay, there's no doubt whether you're left and right because you go to Tel Aviv, it's very, very left. Like LGBT pride, all that, you go to Jerusalem, and it's, I mean, as conservative as it gets. So he's trying to reform the Kineset Supreme Court and the parliament over there because he feels they've gone too liberal. But he's been running on the platform

Starting point is 00:07:58 that he's the guy that's gonna keep Israel safe from what I'm hearing, because I text my buddy who I was at his wedding, he's like, yeah, I thought this would basically make citizens coalesce, like sort of how like 9-11 happened here, and like, didn't matter if you were a Republican or Democrat, I said, what's your take on this?

Starting point is 00:08:14 And he's not a BB net now, who, Fenn, I said, well, this make you appreciate him more, right? He goes, no, it's the exact opposite, because the entire platform he ran on was he's the guy that's gonna keep Israel safe. So what you're kinda sort of hearing on the ground is what happened, BB, what's going on? This is not a good look for the IDF,

Starting point is 00:08:31 it's not a good look for Masad, who's the intelligence agency, and basically the story is this was sort of a coordinated sneak attack. They, it was land air, see, air fly, air is floating, everything in there. Rockin' and everything. Netanyahu was officially declared war on just to be clear, Hamas. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, I believe in 1987 with the basic premise that they will never ever ever recognize the state of Israel and

Starting point is 00:09:07 They came from the origins. I believe of the Muslim Brotherhood, which spouted out of Egypt I want to say and they reject all peace agreements whatsoever. So now I think 5,000 Rockets have been fired to Israel. There's been 500 injured 40 dead You know the iron dome that Israel has that US has sort of funded as of when? As of this morning. Wow. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:09:32 Oh, no, it's crazy. It's $5,000. I mean, it's bad. It's bad. So I text my buddy, just to kind of put it into context. I text my buddy. I said, how are you doing over there? He goes, I woke up to the sounds of sirens, bombs, destruction.

Starting point is 00:09:46 I go, how you doing? He goes, you know what? And this is sort of like Israeli satirical. He goes, I had a taco party planned up. Today they ruined Hamas, ruined my freaking taco party. That's the line man. It's like, how do you gonna ruin my party?

Starting point is 00:09:59 But, it's so funny. The bigger thing that I think that we should understand here as far as Israel goes and US goes because if you're in the United States, you're like, all right, how does this affect me? What BB Netanyahu has done is sort of recognize, I'm never going to make peace with these guys. You know, it started with the Oslo Accords with Yitzek Rabin and Yasser Erfat under Clinton in 93. And they've been trying to make peace with these guys forever.

Starting point is 00:10:26 Hamas does not want peace. Think about saying, well, who's Hamas? Are they the government? Well, actually, they have a majority of parliament. It'd be like literally the equivalent of, in the United States, KKK had more than 50% representation in Congress, which is insane to me. So the president of Mahmoud Abbas, he runs the Palestinian National Authority.

Starting point is 00:10:49 But what BB has done, and this is ultimately my point, is he said, look, I'm not gonna make friends with the 1% over here. What I'm gonna do is open up diplomatic and peace relationships with the rest of the Middle East. And that's been his entire agenda. So they've had longstanding peace agreements with Egypt, with Jordan, which are their bordering neighbors.

Starting point is 00:11:10 But since the Abraham Accords, which was under Trump in 2020, when he moved the, what do you move from the embassy? The embassy. Exactly. To Jerusalem, they've made peace with the UAE, with Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan, and now, in the middle of all this, I don't know if you saw that story of Wall Street Journal, Saudi Arabia is in the final endings of coming to a peace agreement

Starting point is 00:11:36 with Israel. South-Ou. And Saudi has said they wouldn't quote, are willing to raise the oil output to basically appease the Biden administration to get this deal done. Like Saudi wants to get this done why? Because they want security, they want weapons,

Starting point is 00:11:52 they want intelligence, you know, Israel, you know, love them or hate them, whatever you wanna say to them, they have the right to defend themselves. That's the whole thing. But they, when you talk about the Mossad and the IDF, when you talk about intelligence, talk about tech, you have this small little startup company, country, that is, was since 1948 and is an economic miracle. And what they're the ones that now, the rest of the Middle East is saying, why would we

Starting point is 00:12:19 want to get, befriend Palestinians and we should make peace with Israel. So the bottom line is, I thought this would sort of help baby, but this might end up hurting him and how it affects the United States, are all these peace agreements specifically with Saudi Arabia. Jimmy, how should the US react to this? How should the US, how should Biden, how should the President of the United States react to this? You know, I'm not an expert on Palestine, Israel relations.

Starting point is 00:12:45 I don't know how, it's ever, I don't think it's ever gonna be resolved. I don't see, you know, at first, I thought a one-stage dilution was the best thing, but that's never, and then I thought in just Tuesday. And so I really am not the guy to talk to about this, but I do know that Israel has been bombing Syria and no one gives a shit.

Starting point is 00:13:04 And so there's a lot to do whatever they want. I know they have a nuke. And so, but it's good to hear that Saudi Arabia and that they're starting to make peace. I don't understand why the other Arab countries, and I need to explain to me why they don't do something about Palestine and why, you know, in the Gaza Strait, what is their responsibility to this? And I'm no Israeli Palestinian expert, but I've been there a bunch and I know people and I have friends and this is,

Starting point is 00:13:31 this is, you know, the Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, not even close. And so you ask like, who are your allies? PPD is coming out with a book called Choose Your Enemies Wisely. Look, I actually empathize with the people of Gaza. You know, they have a term called jihad, which is a holy war. It's a two-part war. One is the spiritual struggle internally, and one is the external struggle, which literally means killing people on behalf of your your belief. But if you talk about allies, who is Israel's allies? Okay, we just said the

Starting point is 00:14:01 the peace treaties, but United States beyond that. Hamas is a Sunni organization, okay? But their allies are Iran. That's their major ally with Hezbollah and the militants that's going over there. So Iran, Syria, I think I believe Qatar, that's who they are in bed with. so you look at the rest of the middle east you know you're you're familiar with soon issue i iran the the the constant struggle with saudi arabia uh...

Starting point is 00:14:34 there they're picking size just like you think well i don't care is all get along soon issue like this is a major thing for them uh... w and it goes way deeper than anything we've ever known here in America where Republicans the Democrats are constantly fighting. It's never been stopping. Tim. You know, I think the challenge for me, obviously, is I'm not hyper focused on Israel Palestine, I think everyone's saying the same thing. But the bigger picture, going back

Starting point is 00:14:57 like 10 years or so, I remember when I think they did, what was it called, protective edge? I'm not sure what the campaign was, where it was described as many people on the anti-war left as mowing the lawn. I think it's a phrase attributed with what Israel does. Every few years they go to war, yeah, it's 2014, there you go. So they call that the Gaza war in 2014, Protective Edge. That's right.

Starting point is 00:15:19 And it was viewed, and many journalists explain to me that those, and again, I'm not an expert on this, they call it mowing the lawn where every few years Israel is at war with Gaza to decimate and destroy their weapons, their supply depots and things like this. But the big fear is every time they do this, it antagonizes the Middle East and other countries that are upset over what's going on in Palestine.

Starting point is 00:15:41 And at the time, there was concern that if Iran begins supplying war weapons or or up the ante in some capacity, one, it could lead to just obvious widespread destabilization of the region, which we're already, you know, not happy about. I think things have improved with Abraham Accords and a lot of these piece of agreements. My fear is this could seek to disable that problem, but the bigger issue I see now, especially with Ukraine and Taiwan is, we can't handle any more conflict. Escaline to this point.

Starting point is 00:16:08 If, and this may be occurring because the US is entering a new quagmire. For what reason it's not been justified, I have no idea what gas prom, gas monopolies, cutting off Russia from the Black Sea because we wanna control the price of gas or something like this. Then you've got, as we're hyper focused in Eastern Europe, China's flying, what do they

Starting point is 00:16:29 call, sorities or whatever, over Taiwan's air defense zone. And so I'm just sitting back like, either the media is just screaming in my face at the top of their lungs to scare me, or we are experiencing way too much international conflict and destabilization. And considering the politics of the United States and what's happening internationally, with this, the civil conflict in the West with what they call the far right across Europe as well as the United States, you know, people are calling it civil war and World War III.

Starting point is 00:17:00 I'll bottle it up into one. The last thing I need to do is wake up after this beautiful Friday night party with war is breaking out now in the Middle East. Yeah. I think Tim, you make up a great point. This is the definition of whack-a-mall. You're focusing on your credit. What are we doing with China and Taiwan? Look, what's going on on Israel? So it begs the question, what is America's role in all this? Are we the world's police? Do we get involved? Do we get involved in proxy wars? It's problematic.

Starting point is 00:17:26 America. So I think the Palestine Israel is a different conflict than all the other conflicts, right? So Ukraine, Russia, China, these are all provoked by the United States. And we're, you know, what's happening in Ukraine is just a money laundering operation. And it's there so that we could have more

Starting point is 00:17:45 liquefied natural gas from Western countries sold to Europe, and that's why we bombed the Nord Stream pipeline. And Joe Biden predicted he would do it. In February, right, he said, if Putin has tanks that go across into Ukraine, we're gonna end the Nord Stream pipeline. So that's what this was always about, and it was provoked.

Starting point is 00:18:05 We provoked Putin to do that. You know, what's funny is that everybody starts the story of Ukraine with Putin's invasion. But that's, and the way I tell it, it's like if Putin was standing on a bus stop and there was a old lady in the street and there was a bus coming right for her and Putin pushed that lady down on the sidewalk to get out of the bus. The mainstream media starts that story. Putin pushes all lady down. And they leave out the beginning, like, no, there was a bus coming and he was trying to save.

Starting point is 00:18:34 So they forget they leave out the part that in 2014 the United States and the CIA instituted a coup in Ukraine with the right-wing Nazis and the people in the eastern part of Ukraine didn't want to go along with that coup government. And so they resisted it. And so that coup government, the Nazis, started bombing the Donbass. There actually was a peace agreement called the Minsk Accords. Guess who broke that? Do you crane?

Starting point is 00:18:54 It wasn't Russia, it wasn't Putin, it wasn't the people of the Donbass. So finally, after eight years of shelling and two peace agreements that were broken and the threat of putting Ukraine into NATO. And all the Putin said, hey, if you just promised me you won't put them into Ukraine, I won't invade. They wouldn't do that. Why? Because they wanted this to happen. Because they, when they ended Afghanistan, they needed a new war for the military industrial complex. So it was when people were giving Biden all that credit for ending Afghanistan, even though they didn't horribly, people were still giving him credit. I was like, well, that's wait and see what he's going to do with that money that they've

Starting point is 00:19:26 been spending in Afghanistan, because I bet they have another war up there, sleep in son of a bitch they did. It was Ukraine, which they've been ramping up for for at least eight years. And they've admitted that they've been doing this and ramping up and provoking this. And anybody who knows anything about it, this was completely 100% provoked. They wanted this that. They ramped up the bombing in February. So Putin would invade, they doubled it.

Starting point is 00:19:47 So that's what's happening and the same thing. And if you think Russia and China, we have 800 military bases around the world. We just built three more in the Philippines to get ready for this saber rattling with China. And they just built a military base in Syria as they call Putin a thug and a gangster for doing what he's doing in Ukraine.

Starting point is 00:20:05 We are occupying a country right next door, a third of it, which third the oil part, and we just built a military base there, and that's why they hate Trump, because he told the truth about it. When they asked him, hey, why are you leaving troops there? And he said, for the oil, it's our oil.

Starting point is 00:20:18 And they can't have, that he told the truth about our foreign policy, and that's why they got to get rid of them. Yeah, a quick response to that. You're absolutely right. The Ukraine situation has been a marketing campaign to basically, most Americans could not pick out Ukraine on a map.

Starting point is 00:20:31 That's right. Of just Ukraine. So I think the, what's going on in Israel and Palestine, US does not need to get involved in that. That might fund an operation, they might be involved. They're not gonna have boots on the ground, they're not getting involved in that whatsoever. And fund an operation. That might be involved. They're not going to have boots on the ground. They're not getting involved in that whatsoever. And you've seen the numbers, how Americans, especially even Democrats have plummeted for

Starting point is 00:20:51 their approval of what's going on in Ukraine. Do we have those numbers? But in the biggest problem in... Adam, what are you getting to? I'm trying to read this poll here. What are you getting to? No, is that America should not focus necessarily on this? Let me read this story. We should be focused on your phone. Going back on what you were talking with you, Ukrainians,

Starting point is 00:21:08 fewer Americans support our main Ukraine poll. This is the hail. A Reuters poll or survey a significant drop in supporting Americans for sending arms to Ukraine with only 41% of respondents favoring such action in October down from 65% in June of 2023. That's a big drop by the way 24% support for sending arms to Ukraine has declined across political parties democratic support drop from 81% to 52% and republicans support drop from 56 to 35 independent support went from 57 to 44. The survey also indicates that support for sending financial aid to Ukraine is even lower with 37% of respondents favoring get an October survey that the client and support comes amidst debates over government funding and evolving dynamics of 2024 GOP presidential primary.

Starting point is 00:21:56 You know, we had this really extended media cycle about the pipes in Flint, Michigan and then it expanded after the Flint, Michigan pipes, the kids are getting sick, there's Legionnaires disease, the water was bad, then we learn it's a bad in Newark, then we learn it's bad in Pittsburgh. And all of these Democrats are coming out saying, we must get funding to fix this. And now all these people are saying,

Starting point is 00:22:17 we must give this money to Ukraine so we can have war. And I said, I have a compromise. How about we fix all the pipes in Pittsburgh, Newark? Flint apparently is doing better, but let's build American infrastructure about we fix all the pipes in Pittsburgh, Newark, Flint apparently is doing better, but let's build American infrastructure. Let's help the poor in our cities. Let's whatever education program, whatever healthcare program, hey, how about the 250 billion or whatever goes here?

Starting point is 00:22:35 But the weirdest thing to me is to see young leftists on social media being like, we have to stand with Ukraine. Like why? And so I think the hypocrisy right there, for me and the people I know, they're asking themselves, why did we spend all this money over there when we had a decade of water problems in our own country?

Starting point is 00:22:52 But more importantly, when I pulled up the battle map a couple of weeks ago of Ukraine, I was shocked because I wasn't tracking the on the ground stuff with Ukraine as much. I was shocked to discover that Russia won. Because they've been telling us over and over and over again that we've been that we're winning Russia's decimated their conscripting people, their panic, and these videos of like Ukraine and soldier flicking the cigarette and being like,

Starting point is 00:23:16 you're like, you're like, wait, so Russia secured the entire Donbass land bridge from the Donbass, the land bridge into Crimea, which was their stated goal. So I feel like every story coming out saying, we are winning and let's go. And I'm like, Russia wanted to control access to Crimea. It's their access to the Mediterranean, through the Black Sea, through the Bosphorus, into the Mediterranean because they ship a lot of their oil and gas. And what the threat was to them was that if Ukraine joins NATO

Starting point is 00:23:47 in the EU, it cuts off Crimea, well, first of all, before all this in 2014, before Crimea was basically taken by Russia, I'm better at referendum, call whatever you want. The threat Russia's facing is, we have a sabastable base. We transport a lot of our energy through this through here. If Ukraine falls to the EU in NATO, we lose access to the Mediterranean. We can't allow that. So first thing they

Starting point is 00:24:08 do, they walk out of their naval base in Sevastopol and say, we're already here actually, quote unquote, referendum, take it with the expansion of the war, they needed to secure access into Crimea outside of just the actual bridge over water, which we saw bombed not that long ago. Now I'm looking at this map and we have it right here. Wow, Russia, Russia secured land access into Crimea, which was their, my understanding was their stated goal. They're pushing past towards Odessa now, which is insane. And when I talk to, you know, neo-contipes, pro-war establishment types on the left or the liberal democrat would have to call it they keep saying no Vladimir Putin wants Poland no no Vladimir

Starting point is 00:24:50 Putin's yeah and I was like what's what's strategic value does Vladimir Putin have right now economically look you want to make the argument that Putin's 20 year plan is to invade Poland fine but right now what we're dealing with this makes total sense in terms of bringing oil into the Mediterranean, competing on the oil market. And you telling me that Vladimir Putin is a comic book villain who wants to take over the world means nothing. It says nothing about his strategy, nothing about where he's placing his troops. When I look at this, I'm like, oh, right, he wants the land bridge into Crimea to secure it so that you can't kick him out he's gotten it

Starting point is 00:25:25 that seems like a military goal it seems like you cranes lost this one and we're dumping money down the toilet question i got for you jimmy is why why is it because no matter where you went to your democrats all had to you cranium flags instagram facebook twitter the other day were in new york were Yankees game gets cancelled we go to uh... bowling event the u-n as a new york bill clinton shows up with his uh... you

Starting point is 00:25:48 crane were talking to him and you can't know uh... pin on right instead of the red white and blue but why are why are democrats now drop in this is not like a small difference by the way they went from eighty one to fifty two republicans fifty six to thirty five independence fifty's this is not a small number why do you think now people are saying guys we got to stop i think to 52 Republicans 56 to 35 independence 50s. This is not a small number. Why do you think now people are saying guys,

Starting point is 00:26:08 we gotta stop? I think because they're starting to hear counter narratives be fed. Like they're hearing from people like Tucker Carlson, my show Rusty Rockets, all, and it's starting to see been the truth about what's going on over there. And they see how they don't give a shit about America.

Starting point is 00:26:25 So I remember I had Marion Williamson on my show a month or two ago, and she's pro Ukraine war and funding it. And I was like, why do you think that they're doing that? She's like, well, we're trying to help the people of Ukraine. I go, if you think this is about helping people, don't you think we'd start helping people here in America?

Starting point is 00:26:40 First, this is what Tim just said five minutes ago, that why wouldn't we start here? If we really, of course, they don't care about people. They don't even take care of the people in Maui right now. They did nothing. They don't give a shit about them. They got people living under every bridge. Nobody cares.

Starting point is 00:26:53 It's not about the people. They wouldn't even give us health care. Still people still go bankrupt when they get sick in America. The only western country that happens in. So this is all about money laundering. And why is the numbers going down? I think because people are starting to realize this is stupid and all the money were sent. They're starting to get another counter narrative.

Starting point is 00:27:09 Bobby Kennedy's out there talking about it and it's getting talked about on Joe Rogan. And so those are, that's the biggest platform in the world, right? So people are starting to hear a counter narrative before and now they're starting to get caught up to what the game is happening. That's what I think's happening. So let me, let me follow up on that. So you started GOP debate the second one that took place, right? And whether or not. Oh, you didn't see it. Okay. So Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, a lot

Starting point is 00:27:32 of them are still. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Funding the Ukrainian war. But if they're, sorry, the team manager or their helpers are sitting there saying, guys, 80 1 to 52, 56 to 35, 57 to 44, this is not a winning, like, what are you doing? The American people are sick of the spending. Why are they still sticking to their position to defend that? Because they're sticking to their loyalty isn't to the American people. Their loyalty is to their donors. And their donor class wants this, right? So the donor class is Wall Street, the fossil fuel companies and the military industrial complex. And they want this and that's that and they don't serve the people. And that's what Matt Gates is talking about. And that's why they're booing him in

Starting point is 00:28:12 Congress because he's talking about giving the Congress back to the people and they can't have that because they want it to be honed by the donor class, which it is. And look how brilliant it is, though, Jimmy. Like, first thing, like, remember, when it came all pat, like, remember that first six months? You crane, everybody had the flag, everybody had it on Instagram, just like when BLM, everybody put that black square like it did shit. Like that black square did anything. But then Pat, look at their brilliance, Jimmy.

Starting point is 00:28:34 They do all that, they do all that. Then it gets to the point where the word is out. But now it's like, it's too late. We already gave the money, we already embedded, what are you gonna do? Just like the border, look at the border for almost four years. New York gets all these assholes, they're like, no, no, it's not a crisis, not now.

Starting point is 00:28:49 Now they're like, yes, time to build a wall. Too late, there's seven fucking million people here, sorry for my language, seven million. And the reason for it is because now you got Democrats in these big cities complaining. Yep. So their party members are saying, hey, we're dealing with a problem.

Starting point is 00:29:02 It's gonna cost us votes. And like, okay, we'll build the wall now. Yeah, but maybe this more in Ukraine has woken up the people that maybe never woke up about that. Just sort of just operated on a following that. And I want to be surprised of Zelensky's on the plane right now to go to the White House. He'll be like, hey, listen, don't do nothing. Israel, don't get involved.

Starting point is 00:29:21 That's my, don't help at all. I think to Tim's point is this is my question for Tim. This is why I think you made such a great point. You know, the whole America first agenda. When you heard that first from Trump, there's a lot of people that basically labeled that racist. America first fucked the rest of the world basically. Hold on, what? Hold on, what's going on here?

Starting point is 00:29:38 But you pointfully gave the example of things like Flint or in Pennsylvania, whatever these things. And now Americans are realizing, hold on. I was fed this Ukraine thing for six, 12, 18 months. What's going on here in Flint? But here's my question to you. When we asked you about your knowledge of history, like I don't follow this much, dude, you just,

Starting point is 00:29:58 like almost like you are like a battlefield general in Ukraine. You know this inside out. Is this something that you've been following for 18 months or to be fair? Take years. I was there just before the coup happened in 2014. All right, so I went there in 2013. I produced a couple of documentaries

Starting point is 00:30:16 for Vice-Breaking Now What's Going On. And I talked to a lot of people there. I actually got to, I wasn't there when they toppled the statue of Lenin, but I got there literally right afterwards and saw the statue ripped down and people were smashing it with hammers. It was a crazy sight to see. So I have friends there. I, the country's fantastic.

Starting point is 00:30:36 The food's great. The people are awesome. And it was, it was a really amazing trip for me when I was down there from 2013 to 2014. And then watching how it has devolved since then, I think, you know, I don't know what the intention was, what, what, I suppose, I, what the United States machine was hoping to get out of coverage from something like me, from someone like me or whatever. All that ended up happening was I, I, I despise the efforts of the West to exacerbate this war, having been there and met people

Starting point is 00:31:06 there. And I have friends who are, they flood the country. And for what reason? This thing goes back, right? I may not be able to tell you about the inner workings. Actually, you know what, I got to stop. I actually probably do know a decent amount about Ukraine considering clearly the barisma stuff considering. Oh. Right. All of this, I'll give you the simple version. I am about a humble man who complains on the internet. I read news stories and I read reports.

Starting point is 00:31:32 I read academic articles sometimes about the region. And I remember a lot of these articles. So my understanding of what's happening there is, I would just say news cursory and their individuals with clearances and axes, they probably know more than me. But this goes back to the Qatar Turkey pipeline. I'm sure you guys are familiar with this. So the United States, the West wanted a pipeline from Qatar up through Syria and Turkey into Europe to displace the Gazprom gas monopoly.

Starting point is 00:31:59 Syria said explicitly, we are allied with Russia, we will not allow you to do this. In fact, they were going to counter this pipeline by having Iran build a pipeline and run that instead strengthening the the eastern uh... energy uh... energy monopoly whatever to call it it was explicitly reported i'm amazed this is in the guardian that in two thousand nine the cia said we will destroy Syria we will overthrow them so lucky lucky for us a few years later a a civil war breaks out. We're on the side of the rebels because this is a country that said we will not allow you to build a pipeline. All of this then connects into, you have the gas prom, gas monopoly, which its pipeline

Starting point is 00:32:35 runs through Ukraine. All of a sudden this energy company pops up in Ukraine where we've got a former CIA director, Hunter Biden on the board. And now everything we're learning with the investigation into the Biden's into Hunter Biden, Hunter, Devon Archer testifying Hunter Biden calls DC and says, we need help. Joe Biden then flies out, says, fire the prosecutor. You know, I'll simplify this for you. My cola's Lachewski, the founder of Burisma's an energy company.

Starting point is 00:33:00 We have massive interests in building these energy companies. He is accused of corruption. He is under investigation by Victor Shok in the prosecutor in Ukraine. He flees the country after his assets are frozen. Joe Biden comes in and says, oh, the prosecutor's corrupt firearm. Conveniently, after his son calls DC saying I need help because they're feeling this pressure, the several months later Shokin finally resigns and guess what? My Kolozaczewski returns to the country.

Starting point is 00:33:29 No, hold on, I thought he, what's, what, this guy is, is accused of corruption, but he comes back. Joe Biden says at the CFR meeting that we brought, we got in someone who was solid, someone who was solid, someone who was solid who cleared this guy, I guess what, when Donald Trump made that phone call saying, what's going on with this? Homie fled the country again. Yeah. Because you knew the investigations were back on.

Starting point is 00:33:49 There is absolute corruption. And the, the, the fascinating thing is that all of this is in the media. You, you see it reported. But my favorite example of how the media is a, is a spattering of CIA, FBI, whatever you want to call it. And sometimes real journalists is just after the 2016 election, Politico reported that Ukrainian officials interfered in the US election to assist Hillary Clinton. Politico has this. You can pull this up.

Starting point is 00:34:17 Then about a year or two later, Politico reported that very story they reported was Russian disinformation without retracting their own story. This has been happening. So I could talk 50 billion years about all this stuff, but I think my point. You know what? That's the thing people don't realize about Syria,

Starting point is 00:34:36 which a Bobby Kennedy was onto, and that's where I found out about that gas pipeline, was for Bobby Kennedy years ago in like 2017. I'm like, why is there a war in, why does the CA want to overthrow Assad? And it turns out that's why we got in bed with, right now we're in bed with Nazis in Ukraine, legit Hitler Nazis. And but in Syria, we're in bed with Al Qaeda and El Nusra

Starting point is 00:34:57 and the people who are, and ISIS, our sworn enemies, go ahead. Just to add, the Canadian parliament gave a standing ovation to a Nazi Hitler 98 year old no background should and so people don't realize that's what all that Assad was and Tulsi Gabbard stole up and stood up and told the truth about that and that's why they had to smear her as a Russian agent and all that stuff because whoever tells the truth about our foreign policy when the game that's being played they immediately get called an Assadist or you get called a

Starting point is 00:35:24 Putin puppet or they would call you a Sadadist or you get called a Putin puppet or they would call you a Saddam puppet or a traitor to the country. And they're doing the same thing, they're doing Iraq, they're doing it Libya, they're doing it Syria, they're doing it Ukraine. It's all the same shit and people don't wake up. I can't believe that people who saw them do Iraq

Starting point is 00:35:38 and then nobody really looked into Libya and then they saw them do Syria. They got tricked into Syria again and the same game in Ukraine. I can't believe they're falling for the over and over. Here's what it is. Here's what I'm noticing with the trend. They come in saying I think they will believe us for a year. Yeah, yeah, that's all we need.

Starting point is 00:35:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah with the year was selling enough supplies to make money. And then all of a sudden that 81 on Democrats support goes to 52. That's right. Republican goes 56, 35. And then independent goes 57, 44.

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Starting point is 00:37:43 Again, text PBD to 65532, link will text PBD to 65532 link will be below. Okay, so that's Ukraine. Let's talk math gates. So this week, all of a sudden, I think we all probably remember where we were at where it said, well, McCarthy is fired. He's like, wait, what? Is this a mistake?

Starting point is 00:38:00 Like this is not possible. Ryan, how did this take place? And a math gates is going out to Colin and I, you didn't keep your promise you didn't do this you didn't do it and yesterday I asked them a question at your event that you had in Miami I said when you were doing that when you were pushing them did you actually think it was going to be a historic more board this guy was going to get fired or did you just think you're going to scare them to have like a you know publicity TV media reaction kind of sharing your thoughts. Any gave his answer. But from your perspective, you know, what are your thoughts about what happened? Is it a good thing? Is it a bad thing

Starting point is 00:38:32 unpacked for us? Well, this is exact. Matt Gates is doing the exact thing that I championed two years ago when the Democrats had a slim majority and I wanted the progressives, meaning the squad AOC and those people to do what Matt Gates is doing to the speaker. They were an on doing that to Nancy Pelosi. And I said, you can't give your vote to her for speaker unless you get some sessions from her and they refuse to do that. And then and half the people on the, quote, unquote, left turned on me and said that I was doing something that was crazy.

Starting point is 00:39:01 This came right from the DSA handbook. This came right from AOC's own campaign. She was like, we got to have a vote on Medicare for Health. So that was crazy. This came right from the DS a handbook. This came right from AOC's own campaign. She was like, we gotta have a vote on Medicare for All. So that was my ask. My ask was you don't vote for Nancy Pelosi unless they give you a vote for Medicare for All on the floor, which is what Democrats have been saying they wanted for two decades.

Starting point is 00:39:17 If not longer since Nancy Pelosi actually in 1994 said she wanted that. So I'm like, this is something everybody agrees on on the left. So let's do it. They wouldn't do it. MacGates is not only doing that. He's not like, this is something everybody agrees on on the left. So let's do it. They wouldn't do it. MacGates is not only doing that. He's not only challenging, but he's actually asking for reforms that progressive should be cheering for.

Starting point is 00:39:31 He wants to have single item bills voted on. You don't want to put school lunches in with a border and Ukraine funding into the same bill. And that's garbage. And he wants that. And he's going to, he's willing to get rid of McCarthy for that. I'm going to tell you, it was really inspiring to listen to his speeches. And I realized that all that's why they've made him into be such a monster.

Starting point is 00:39:50 And now they're literally calling him a terrorist for doing that. They're trying to make it look like somehow he's a maniac. And he's the the the Republicans are out of control and chaos. That's exactly what someone's supposed to do. And Matt Gates, I don't think he takes packed funding and he raises most of his money through $200 or less donations. And that's why he's able to do this. And it's like, I don't agree with probably most of his politics, but I agree with him doing

Starting point is 00:40:14 this, him getting those reforms in the house. That's what lefties should be screaming for. And it's really great what he's doing. He's made a fan out of me. Anyway, and I love his anti-war stance. Now, the only thing I hope he doesn't pivot and be pro war on China, what he's doing. He's made a fan out of me anyway. And I love his anti-war stance. Now the only thing I hope he doesn't pivot and be pro-war on China, but doing this to stop the funding for Ukraine is a definite winner for him. And the American people are coming around to his point of view.

Starting point is 00:40:34 So I think it's great as a progressive and a lefty, I wish that the Democrats, the progressives had half the nuts that he does because he's really, oh, it was just, it was sweet. I was just pumping my fist and cheering this guy on. And and Met Gates tweeted out that he's willing to give some concessions on the motion to vacate to raise the threshold, making it harder in the future. If they enact Rokana's reforms, so he's shouting out a Democrat. Rokana says, you can't, you can't trade stocks in Congress 12, 12 year term limit and no lobbyists impact money donations. And I'm, and no lobbyists and pack money donations.

Starting point is 00:41:06 And I'm just, I'm loving it, I'm loving it. It's when, you know, we're driving in the car. Luke is, I'm in the pastor's seat, Luke's sitting in the back and he goes, Kevin McCarty has been removed. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on, I pull up Twitter and I'm like, no, I think they're saying they may have the votes for now, but it can still be reversed.

Starting point is 00:41:24 And he's like, no, he's removed. And then I see the video and I press play and it's like the a's have it, the motion to vacate. And I was like, I lost it. I just, I'm like, dead silent. And then I'm, I just, this is history, the first speaker to be removed. And the issue is, if the Republicans made this big hubbub about 2022 and out winning a majority

Starting point is 00:41:45 and once we do, we'll control the budget, we'll do these things, but Kevin McCarthy is unwilling to actually work with the people who got them that majority. And in fact, is just trying to work backroom deals, particularly to get funding for Ukraine. Then what's the point of voting for these individuals? If in the end, I'm sure Matt Gates and i will disagree and on a lot of positive policy positions i'm like you know jimmy was mentioning but if the core of his fight is reforms in congress then i think he's gonna have eighty percent of the country agreeing with them

Starting point is 00:42:14 on if they know what's actually going on i'm gonna ask this question and i want you to get the question i asked last night i want to ask it tonight and i want you to give me a rubble calipol comes out right republican Republican, the Americans trust Republicans and economy. 53 to 39. Highest exchange, you know, difference between the two ever, okay? They trust Republicans for military. They trust Republicans for economy.

Starting point is 00:42:36 They trust Republicans for almost everything, right? Everything was them trusting Republicans. By the way, we haven't had this. If you have the chart, Rob, to pull it up. If you've seen this, it's not something that's normal. You know, for the longest time they trust the Democrats, if you look at the blue and the red, look at this exchange on what's happened, it's very high. And where we are today, right?

Starting point is 00:42:55 It's just a number. We're not accustomed to seeing. And a purple, the people that know difference, no opinions going lower and lower and lower, which means people are having more and more opinions of what they want to do. So yesterday, there's certain people that say Jimmy or Tim, they'll say, well, look at the Republican Party, they're in shambles, they're not united, this is why Democrats will always win because no matter what happens, a Bernie Sanders will set aside to protect and get behind Joe Biden and he'll get up there and try to convince the Elhan and AOC,

Starting point is 00:43:26 we got to support him because we're gonna get some things done, but no, we wanted you Bernie and Elizabeth Warren steps aside and Amy steps aside and the great Pete Buttigieg steps aside and all these guys step aside, right? And then you're probably a good Republican's man, they can't even get along. And then even some things, you know,

Starting point is 00:43:42 Trump say, why can't these guys all get along together? So there is different messaging from different people, man they can't even get along and then even something you know trams a why can't these guys all get along together so there is different messaging from different people ill-opened it question what do you say to the people that are saying looks and math kind of just broke apart the republican party just because of eight people we're not happy with McCarthy maybe maybe it is that right now what met gates has done will will create the image

Starting point is 00:44:00 of disunity and scare the people who finally turned around but i'll tell you what actually think i think the reason you're seeing the Republican Party go up is because of Matt Gaetz. Because there have been, for the longest time, for my entire life, Congress has been a waste of time. And I didn't even vote. I voted for Obama. I regretted it because he blew up a bunch of kids.

Starting point is 00:44:17 And then you get 2012 and 2016. I didn't vote for anybody. 2020 I turned around. I said, okay, maybe I want to start supporting some of these guys. 80 Gallops latest poll, 82% disapproval in Congress. And Thomas Massey, I think he's a good guy, but he stands up there and gives this passion, and passion speech about how if we vote to remove McCarthy, this institution will fail. I bust out laughing. I'm like, you think 82% disapproval is an institution we want to preserve. I'm wondering if the reason people are now actually saying,

Starting point is 00:44:46 I trust Republicans more, is because they're hearing something that actually aligns more so with what they're looking for at the very least. If it is Matt Gaetz saying, I want reforms and no more politics as usual, no more revolving door BS, no more lobbyist money. Yeah, okay, I'm behind Republicans for that, if that's what it is.

Starting point is 00:45:03 That being said, Kevin McCarthy actually creates problems, in my opinion, for someone who wants to support their Republican party, because as soon as they get their majority, what does he do? He starts playing politics as usual once again. The only thing keeping me interested is Matt Gaetz. Yeah, no, I agree with that. This idea that somehow you're supposed to have party unity and that, you know, AOC was bragging about it. That all the Democrats are running like a well-oiled machine. Well, you're not supposed to.

Starting point is 00:45:32 You were sent there to oppose the establishment inside the Democratic Party, and of course, they're acting like that wasn't what they were sent to do there, but it is what they're sent to do, which is why her approval ratings are in the shitter, too. So they're not, not this exactly what they're supposed to be doing. And the only people who are anti-war are people on the right in the Republican party. And as a lefty, I got nowhere to go. It's just like, I got to, so it's again, just reiterate, it's great what Matt Gates is doing. So that's why he's going to be slimed and smeared in the corporate press up and down. He's going to be called

Starting point is 00:46:04 everything of him a pedophile to a terrorist to a white supremacist. That's the game. And so we got to be aware of it. And I stand in solidarity with his reforms in Congress. And I think most of the American people, they want to get packed money out of there. They want to have single issue voting. They want to have more power to this, to the members and less power to the speaker. And they want to stop the funding of Ukraine.

Starting point is 00:46:26 And so it doesn't matter if it's Nancy Pelosi or Kevin McCarthy, they're going to get that funding for Ukraine. They're going to get the bidding done of the Bill donor class. And so that's what Matt Gates is standing up to. And I thought that the lefties would stand up to it. Bernie Sanders and the squad, and of course they didn't. In fact, they all voted for the largest upward transfer of wealth in human history. They all voted for funding this Ukraine war instead of funding the United States.

Starting point is 00:46:47 They rolled over completely to be in the establishment, and that's what the Democratic Party is. In lockstep with the corporate media, in lockstep with the donor class, and the establishment. And I think people maybe are waking up to it, and that's why those numbers are happening like that. So I really can't say more about, I always thought this was gonna happen from a lefty and it's coming from Matt Gaid. By the way, it's a lefty yourself. What is it making you think about your next vote?

Starting point is 00:47:11 Because you have a voice. You show people listen to what you have to say and you're very passionate and you break things down and you're true believer. You come across as a guy that's like, listen, I'm a regular guy that just got a lot of opinions. And here's what I'm going through. What do you think, what do you grapple with yourself

Starting point is 00:47:24 for your vote in 2024? Well, I was thought I was going to support Cornell West, but I'm not going to support, I can't see that happening now. He's in bed with the same establishment people. He's got Peter Dow, who's a cancer on the left in charge of his campaign, which is while he's flailing. And he just left the green party. So he's not going to get ballot access. So he's not really running for president, and that was clear to me when he came on my show. He didn't ask for my vote.

Starting point is 00:47:50 He didn't ask for the votes of the people who watched my show. In fact, he looked like he was, Jesus came on to pick a fight with me. And he can't stop saying that Joe Biden is the lester of two evil with Donald Trump. So if you say that, you're undermining your own campaign, which led me to believe he's not really running. So I'm looking forward to Bobby Kennedy declaring his independent run because a lot of the stuff he says that's really important to me, like his stance on COVID, lockdowns, authoritarianism, and free speech. And you know, he says, if you don't have free speech, you don't have democracy. And that's true. This idea that voting for

Starting point is 00:48:23 Democrats, though, democracy is on the ballot, democracy hasn't been on the ballots since 1980, okay? Your government was taken from you by corporations decades ago and when are people going to get pissed off about that? The guys on January 6 weren't overthrowing the government. They were just protesting in election, just like the other half of the country protests over four years and said another country stole our election. They were saying it was stolen by people and they say, oh, they're trying to, that's Cornel West came on my show and he said, oh, they were trying to

Starting point is 00:48:51 overthrow the government and upset the peaceful transfer of power. Really a bunch of second amendment gun nuts wanted to go overthrow the government and they forgot their guns, isn't that weird? Oh, I thought I'd written it down, Mittens, water. I forgot the guns. So it's and now look at they're doing so they're criminalizing their political opponents. That's what they're doing to Trump They know he's gonna win the election. So they're gonna make him a criminal and his that's what January 6 was about

Starting point is 00:49:18 That's why there were so many FBI agents in the crowd and they pushed those people into their into the capital So they can set up this narrative and they can make and now they're using the Rico statute to prosecute Trump. Rico statute which was invented to go after the mafia not only are they using against their political opponents of Donald Trump, they're also using against the people who are protesting stop cop city. So it doesn't matter if you're Donald Trump or if you're a lefty protesting stop cop city. So it doesn't matter if you're Donald Trump or if you're a lefty protesting expansion of the police state, they're going to use the same rico laws to go after you because the establishment criminalizes their opponents. And no matter if he comes from the right

Starting point is 00:49:54 or the left, and that's the game that's being played, and I'm trying to wake people up to that, and not that I'm going to vote for Trump or I'm a Trump fan, but I can notice what they're doing to him. They're going to do to anybody who stands up against the establishment. That's the game now. That's what they did to Lula, that's what they didn't impact then, that's what they do. So the whole world, and I hope you guys know that it's only run by a handful of billionaires, right? And there is no loyalty to a country.

Starting point is 00:50:18 The people who, just like Ned Bady said in that movie Network in 1974, there are no countries, there are only companies, and the international flow of of dollars and you can't upset that international flow of dollars and if you do, you have to atone. And that's where we're at. These guys don't care what happens to America. They'll fund a war everywhere in the world before they fix the pipes or fix the infrastructure or give health care or education to anybody in the United States. And that's because we're won by globalists like Bill Gates, Bill Gates who runs the WHO, right? So he's the biggest funder of the WHO. It goes China and then Bill

Starting point is 00:50:48 Gates. And then so now I can't go on YouTube and contradict the WHO. And that's coming direct from Bill Gates. So he has a monopoly on information flow. And that's the real game being played right now. It's not about countries. It's about a handful of billionaires at the W E F guys like Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, they're running everything and the people in Congress are just doing the bidding of those people. And that's why when Matt Gates

Starting point is 00:51:12 stands up and says something, it shakes the world and they have to make it seem like it's bad instead of what it actually is a real revolution that we need. Jimmy, I always wonder why you hold back your feelings. Why do you like you should let

Starting point is 00:51:24 a rip? You know what I'm saying? You should let a rip. Go ahead. You guys see, you see what they're doing. You're Trump in New York City now. Oh, it's horrible. This, this, this, this, this, this, this broad lawsuit. I'll give you the breakdown of my, my prediction. The first thing the judge summarily rules that Trump overvalued his properties. It's clearly not true because Mar-a-Lago is not worth $18 million. That's crazy. From the ocean to the good, Mark, Mark two, Lago, it's, it's 17 and a half acres in an area where point three goes for $10 million and they're saying 17. No, it's a lie.

Starting point is 00:51:49 But here's the game. You, similarly, decree Trump's properties are worth less than he declared. Therefore, he committed fraud. Now the trial is did Trump falsify records. Well, if they've already determined that his $500 million property is only worth 50 million, any record he created asserting the value of that property or a bank did, they're going to say it's falsified, therefore fraud. They're going to rule that Trump is found liable for fraud against the state of New York.

Starting point is 00:52:14 They're then going to say, you now have to pay us $250 million. We'll start with that building on Fifth Avenue that you claim was worth $500 million. It's worth $5 million. You now owe us $245 million. What I think they're going to do is, by arguing his buildings are worthless, they can seize them in the lawsuit while making him basically drain the entirety of his net worth.

Starting point is 00:52:36 So the reason I bring this up, as you mentioned, the billionaires ruling the world, they're trying to make Trump not a billionaire anymore. Right. Destroy his assets, destroy, part of the prosecution is not necessarily to put him in jail, though I do think they want them there. They want to drain his resources, time, and energy so we can't campaign.

Starting point is 00:52:51 That's what they did to Ralph Nader, right? They kept him off to Bell and they kept in spending money on lawyers and beaming in court. So he couldn't really run for president. Let me ask you about, you probably know more about it than me. This deal that they're trying to prosecute them on now. So they said he inflated the value of his building so we could get the loan, right? So we got the loan, he's paid it back,

Starting point is 00:53:13 the people who gave him the loan made money off that loan. There is no agreeable authority. There's no victim here. Am I right about this? I think what they're trying to do is exploit the fact that the people in New York struggle their own property. And I mean, I'm not trying to be mean exploit the fact that the people in New York struggle to own property. And I mean, I'm not trying to be mean to the people of New York who can't afford to buy.

Starting point is 00:53:30 But for those who've never been through the process of buying property, it may sound like it makes sense. Oh, Trump claimed his building was worth more than it really was, so the bank should give him more money. No, no. When you try to buy property, the bank tells you to shove it. We are going to appraise the property and tell you if you're and then see, because we have our own responsibilities to our bank members.

Starting point is 00:53:50 The idea that Donald Trump went to the bank and said, this $10 million property, it's actually $100 million, give me $100 million. And they'd be like, sure thing buddy, we'll believe you. And then we'll hold on to a dead asset that's worthless. No, never gonna happen. And on top of that, the judge ignored testimony from the lenders who said, not only are these properties worth what they're worth,

Starting point is 00:54:10 but we made a lot of money from it and we're happy. And now the funniest thing is, when the judge ruled Mar-Lago is only worth $18 million, I just imagine what it must be like being a real estate agent in Palm Beach, because now you've got people coming up to and being like, no, my blog was worth 18 million. That means that that $30 million property trying to sell is only worth, you know, $300,000. Right.

Starting point is 00:54:30 Yeah. Right. And have you seen that, have you guys seen that judge? What was it? Arthur and Goran. He, first of all, you want to, I think Rob has it. The camera, they're showing Trump. You just see Trump just in anger, furious mode.

Starting point is 00:54:44 And then Jim, if the camera goes to the judge He takes office glasses and he's like he's polting. Did you see that video? And then and then he's on another longer video where they clip where he says Verbatin he goes I know this is gonna be controversial because I know I'm being recorded, but he goes You know there's a jury even on this isn't a jury case This is who he is as a character. He goes listen if I'm in a case and the jury doesn't agree me I kept you know I can make my own decision, overrule them on my emotions, Rob.

Starting point is 00:55:08 Can you show this clip? Pat, is that cool? Yeah, cool. Yeah, go ahead, listen to this guy. Tape, juries get it wrong a lot. That's my own opinion. I do only civil trials, personal injury cases, contract disputes, but I've had situations where like oh my my

Starting point is 00:55:27 Heaven's sake How could they have fought that the judge I have a I have a tool that I can deal with that. It's called jury notwithstanding the vert judgment notwithstanding the verdict I can say There is no possible way that a reason would jury would have reached that conclusion. That's like that. That's that's the judge. And then you're not wrong. No, he's not wrong. I just can do this. The 100% but I mean like how is it fair if that's the judge and then

Starting point is 00:55:57 Latisha James, the attorney general in New York, she is set in an interview. She was like, I have no personal vendetta against Trump. I never campaigned against him. And guess what, there's a whole long footage of her over and over and over campaigning against him talking crap about Trump in the streets. So it's like, it's not fair. By the way, do you have a clip? Do you have a clip for Hillary Clinton,

Starting point is 00:56:19 what she said, I'll read this to you. Hillary Clinton said, there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the Trump cult members. Hillary Clinton called for the formal deprogramming of the Donald Trump mega supporters characterizing them as a part of a cult. Maybe they don't like migrants, maybe they don't like gay people or black people

Starting point is 00:56:37 or the women who got the promotion at work. They didn't. Clinton describes Trump as an authoritarian populist who connects with a portion of the problem based on an emotional psychological level. Go and play this clip. Wonderful clip by Hillary. On partisans in both parties in the past. And we had very bitter battles over all kinds of things, gun control, and climate change

Starting point is 00:56:58 and the economy in taxes. But there wasn't this little tale of extremism waving the dog of the Republican party as it is today. And sadly, so many of those extremists, so as mega extremists, take their marching orders from Donald Trump who has no credibility left by any measure. He's only in it for himself, he's now defending himself in civil actions and criminal actions, and when do they break with him? You know, because at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming

Starting point is 00:57:36 of the cult members, but some things have to happen. But here's a question, though. Here's a question I got for you. So the only reason CNN would put Hillary Clinton to give this insight is because they think their audience would react to it, right? You wouldn't bring a guest and give them, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then like the host is laughing as if you're supportive of what she is saying. You only bring it because you think Democrats are still influenced by her.

Starting point is 00:58:00 Does she still have that kind of influence over the Democratic voter? I think the Democratic Party is occult. I call it blue and on. And so that's what that's exactly called, if you know anything about Carl Jung, that's classic projection right there is what she's doing. She's talking about someone else being occult. No, they're the ones who are actually stalling out the military industrial complex. Or right now people like Matt Gates are calling out the corruption in congress.

Starting point is 00:58:26 What she's talking about is that they all agree on corruption. We agreed on having the financial services screw over people on their credit cards. She signed off to have 35% interest rates. She's the one who's the enemy of the worker. She's the one there are for every war possible. She's the one that keeps health care away from people. The extremists are those people and she again has to project that onto other people. And then they, she's the one who invented Dresha Gate, right? So, Dresha Gate was 100%

Starting point is 00:58:54 hoax that was proven by Muller and then by the Durham report. It was, they're the ones who financed Russian disinformation, which is what the steel dossier was. Where did the script for steel get that information? He got it from P. His context inside the Kremlin. They put it in the steel report. That's a 100% Russian disinformation. Nobody talks about it. They lied that they funded it for a whole year. They lied to the FBI.

Starting point is 00:59:15 They never have to go to jail for it because they're lying at the behest of the establishment. And they got to get rid of Donald Trump because Donald Trump wouldn't do the interventions they wanted. He ran on pulling us out of the Middle East. They can't have that. He said on pulling us out of the Middle East. They can't have that. He said there was a deep state and he gave away our foreign policy.

Starting point is 00:59:28 So that's what this is all about. They, of course, the Republicans and the Democrats, they agree on all the important things to screw over regular people and keep the military industrial complex going because they work for their donors. That's another version of her deplorable speech. And how did that work for her? Donald Trump beat you in election after you called half the country deplorable and she's trying to do that again. So I have a question for you guys. We have Hillary Clinton here saying that there needs

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Starting point is 01:01:09 Our jizz is going to put him in jail for hundreds of years if he's convicted. They're trying to seize his assets and his property and destroy him. The Capitol police are setting up offices around the country. They've rated the homes of even innocent people on accident. We're seeing the FBI now label Trump's followers as extremists to be targeted. And my question is, when you see these things happening, plus the indictment of lawyers for the former president, the sanctioning, I don't know how many people know this, many of the lawyers that were hired by Donald Trump and his and his and his, and his, his, his, in our circle in 2020, to argue on his behalf over the 2020-twenty election they've been sanctioned

Starting point is 01:01:46 the tunes of hundreds of thousands of dollars for simply providing a constitutionally and my opinion required legal service what comes next they're gonna their their calling trump supporters trumps followers terrorists and extremists they're set is she's going on tv saying they must they're a cult that must be reprogrammed

Starting point is 01:02:03 they're arresting lawyers. Mike Sternovich tweeted recently, perhaps hyperbolicly, perhaps a little bit aggressive that's in the coming year of Biden wins, something the effect of he will be framed by the regime for a crime that they will use just to do to justify killing him. And then you have, of course, Scott Adams, several years ago said it's very likely that the next year you will be dead. Well, we're all still alive, but some people didn't make it crime is getting bad. And so I'm wondering if Scott Adams and Mike Cernivich

Starting point is 01:02:28 are seeing something legitimate, maybe their statements are a little aggressive, but my view is Hillary Clinton adding to the conversation we need to re-educate these people. The FBI report, I'm curious what you guys think happens next considering all this. Well, I heard there's a split inside the military uh... in the cia right so there's uh... general flin

Starting point is 01:02:51 and uh... who uh... they've again they've tried to make him out to be a criminal they framed him to get him uh... to go along so this is this is what they're doing so i hope that there's a big fraction of the military or some big faction of the cia that doesn't want to go along with what's happening. I have heard that I don't have any direct information, but I've heard people say that I trust, but I don't know, I don't have any evidence of it.

Starting point is 01:03:15 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I want, everyone makes the meme about me saying silver, but I had not heard about the military having a potential split. No, I'm just saying that they back Trump and they back, they see what they see with the game that is being played. Hey, this is exactly what they said, what Trump made Trump a fascist was that he criminalizes his political opponents. That's exactly what

Starting point is 01:03:34 they're doing. Of course, just like Hillary Clinton, that's all the back. This is like what they're saying is happening Ukraine. The exact opposite is the true. Whatever you're hearing on the corporate news, the exact opposite is the truth. So I don't know what, so I hope this is true. What I'm hearing, I hope the reason why Trump is running is to try to run against the CIA and this military industrial complex. I hope that's what's happening because that's what we need to have happen.

Starting point is 01:03:59 And we live in a banana republic, right now they're really doing it. And like I said, it doesn't matter if you're Trump, it doesn't matter if you're Maga, it doesn't matter if you're ultra lefty. They're also doing it to black socialists. They're also doing it to stop cop city. They are Barack Obama in 2011 signed the NDAA sex in 1021, which got rid of habeas corpus. So that means that they can throw you in jail and they don't have to charge you with

Starting point is 01:04:22 the crime. All they have to do is say you're a terrorist. Well, if you go out and protest, they're going to say you're an economic terrorist or if you protest an oil, well, they're going to say you're an environmental terrorist. Well, they all you do is say you're a terrorist. They throw you in jail and that's that. And look what they're doing to Julian Assant still right out in the open. And so that's the, and that's why none of the journalists ever tell the truth about

Starting point is 01:04:42 Ukraine. That's why they never tell the truth about what's going on because they know what's going to happen to them if they actually put a hurt on the establishment, which is why we have horrible journalism in American, which is why shows like this are popular shows like Tim and mine Joe Rogan, Rusty Rockets. That's why these and Tucker Carlson's killing it. Why be cut and Tucker Carlson got fired people do you get fired for lying? That's the kind that they keep at far because he started telling the truth about foreign policy economic policy

Starting point is 01:05:09 and the big pharma and as soon as he did that he became persona non-growing they had to get rid of them he got fired for telling the truth not for lying and that's what happens and that's what they did to Julian Sons that's what they did to Edward Snowden so they and that's why they have such control on us on YouTube and we have to answer to billionaires because that's what they did to Edward Snowden. So they, and that's why they have such control on us on YouTube. And we have to answer to billionaires because that's who runs everything. And we're living, people think we live in a democracy. It's a joke that they think we're living in a democracy. We live in an authoritarian nightmare.

Starting point is 01:05:37 And now we're in a surveillance state where they don't, and we're operating on a Liberty view from around the 1100. You know, the, the, uh, a habeas corpus was in the Magna Carta. They got rid of that. So now we're operating on a Liberty view from around the 1100s, and people don't even realize it or care

Starting point is 01:05:52 because people are too busy trying to make a living. And while they, instead of them helping those people are taking that money, sending it to the military industrial complex, via the, you, Ukraine. It's a, it's a crazy world we're living in, and I wonder when the real revolution is going to start because the truckers let the template for that.

Starting point is 01:06:09 So what the truckers did was they shut down capitalism and they put a herd on them. So they immediately called them white supremacists, Nazis, as they're literally funding Nazis themselves and they're our in bed with Nazis. That's what, so if somebody in America comes up with a plan on how to do that and if it comes like from a Christian smalls who knows how to bring left and right people together and oppose the establishment like he did on Staten Island with Amazon. So if the and the truckers get together with a union leader like that and they can start making demands and hook up with like a Matt Gates inside of the Congress, that's when

Starting point is 01:06:39 a real revolution is going to happen. That's the only thing that's going to save this country at this point. And Ted Kajou one question, Tim, of the FBI creating the MAG extremist category for Trump extremists, what's their criteria to find out and label you and put you in that group? Like, what's the FBI going to monitor? Like, if you have the flag on your truck,

Starting point is 01:06:59 are they gonna come after you? Because Jimmy, you nailed it. On January 6th, the Chief of Capitol Police, Stephen Sun, told everybody, they wouldn't let him testify. He was like, I was begging for help. They didn't give me shit. I wanted a National Guard. Just like you said, FBI, Reheps,

Starting point is 01:07:13 everybody getting, getting, they caused all this thing. And now they're warning us, I think because they know something is gonna happen for this election, now they're gonna go after anybody that has any type of say, but I wanna know, what do you think is gonna be their trigger to go after you? Like, what, if you just say, hey, I like Trump, they're gonna monitor your ass? Sounds like it.

Starting point is 01:07:31 I refer to things like this, like I call it a Chinese finger trap problem. Yeah. In that, the establishment is panicking over the likes of Matt Gates, anti-establishment podcasters and individuals. And so, when none of the propaganda is working anymore, none of the media narrative is working, they go for the brute force method. to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish

Starting point is 01:07:45 and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish

Starting point is 01:07:53 and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish

Starting point is 01:08:01 and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government has been able to establish and then the government announce, like actually we're totally doing that. Yeah. The only thing that results in is more destabilization. I'm not, you know, looking at what comes next, I don't think people often look to tropes in history, TV's, and movies, and that's wrong. They make assumptions, you know, we hear Alex Jones yell, 1776 will happen again. And I'm like, that wasn't the start of the American Revolution.

Starting point is 01:08:23 The American Revolution, Revolution I appeared started in 1764. It was 11 years before the first shot was fired. 11 years. And you know what the founding fathers were doing for 11 years? They were pamphleting. They were going around and they're kind of doing what we're doing. They're saying freedom, liberty, the oppression is wrong. The founding fathers did not want to go to war.

Starting point is 01:08:40 They kept writing strongly worded letters to the crown being like we deserve representation. And then what happened was I'll give you a super simplified version of it The it was the the T act. I'm probably in the name wrong They the crown was trying to subsidize the East India trading company, which was on was facing dire straits So they said we're gonna make it easier for them to sell T in the colonies and around the world Which directly competes with the T from the colonists? Which is going to hurt their ability to make money?

Starting point is 01:09:04 So colonists, which is going to hurt their ability to make money. So colonists got mad. They throw the T in the in the in the bay and they're like screw your T. You can't do this. The crown then says, you got to pay back all the money for that damage. T Massachusetts then says, screw you. The crown then says we're sending in regulars to maintain order in the Massachusetts colony because y'all are acting a fool. A bunch of farmers outside of the city proper in the more rural area said,

Starting point is 01:09:25 you have no authority over us. The regulars were then instructed to go take the guns away from these men. And I think it was only a small group of individuals at Lexington and Concord. When the regulars came and said, you're going to give us all of your guns. They said, no, we're not.

Starting point is 01:09:38 No one knows exactly who shot first. I think based on what I read, it was probably an American colonist to open fire shooting a regular. And that was the shot heard round the world, not literally, but that's the moment they call it, the shot heard round the world, which started the American revolution one year before the Declaration of Independence. What I see happening now in Philadelphia, in California, absolute destabilization, when

Starting point is 01:09:59 you got a hundred people running through the streets, smashing windows, stealing products and looting for no reason, just because these flashmobbs keep happening. What's starting to happen is that these individuals view the state and law enforcement as a joke. The way I explained it to people, imagine if a bunch of clowns, literal clowns with big poofy red hair and clown noses walked up to your door, banged, and showed you a clown portrait and said, this clown portrait gives us the right to enter your property and search everything. You'd laugh, right?

Starting point is 01:10:27 You'd say, what is this a clown? Now, when we see law enforcement of war, we are socialized to be like, this is the norm and these are the rules and we have to obey them. But when you see people ransacking businesses, it's because in their mind, when they see a cop, they see a clown.

Starting point is 01:10:43 They do not see that person as someone with authority over them at all. When this destabilization starts happening, it'll happen, and it's happening all over the place with riding. What you're seeing is that kids growing up today, these younger kids are teenagers or young adults, do not view the United States government and any capacity as having authority over their lives. What happens then?

Starting point is 01:11:02 In New York, when the riots got crazy, what did the city government do? They do what governments always do. They circle the wagons around themselves and they leave you high and dry. When these things start happening, you get men and militias forming, which is what you see in the likes of Lexington and Concord. What I see happening next is a potential, I don't know for sure. If you look at what would happen with the Bundy Ranch incident, now almost 10 years ago, when the federal government starts circling the wagons around itself over the conflict in the crisis, determining that Trump's voters are all extremist and terrorists. Eventually, law enforcement shows up to a small town for some reason or another, and some

Starting point is 01:11:34 local guys who are in their 30s with body armor and guns say, we don't recognize your authority, we don't care for your authority, you don't protect us, we don't pay you, you have no authority here. In fact, what ends up happening is a local person will declare themselves a shareful vote on it, and then they'll say, we're the authority here, pay you. You have no authority here. In fact, what ends up starts happening is a local person will declare themselves a share for the vote on it. And then they'll say, we're the authority here, not you. Now you have government at odds with each other. Civil war is not people make this mistake. They think it's that there's going to be a big faction of states.

Starting point is 01:11:57 They stamp a paper and say, we hear my declare civil war. And that's not what's going to happen. What's going to happen is that as the government loses control because people no longer view them as the monopoly on violence, factions start popping up, then the government circles the wagons around themselves, and then you have multifactions, multiple factions in various parts of the country. We've already seen this start with things like Chaz, Chapp, or otherwise, even StopCop City,

Starting point is 01:12:19 are people saying we don't recognize the authority of the government. If this persists, and the government makes the problem worse by calling Trump supporters terrorists, they are outright telling you you are not protected by us, you are not a part of us, but we will take your money and use it against you. This kind of shit freaks me out. So that, and my theory is that this whole thing, game by the establishment, the oligarchy through their corporate media is to keep us distracted and hating our neighbor and blaming our neighbor and being afraid.

Starting point is 01:12:48 We got to be afraid of white supremacy. We got to get it after we elected a black American president twice in a row. All of a sudden racism is going crazy. We got to worry about white supremacy all of a sudden. And your neighbors are white supremacists and your neighbors are Q and on and your neighbors this and your neighbors. And they want us to be hating each other and fear each other. Because if we don't, we'll join together and we'll see the game that's

Starting point is 01:13:09 actually being played on us. And that will happen with he just described a lot sooner when we don't see legitimacy of the government governing us because they're governing for the donor class and not for us. And so that's why they got to keep us distracted hating. That's why they get a Hillary Clinton on CNN saying we got a deprogram. Maga there, the real they're the real threat.

Starting point is 01:13:25 The real threat, as we all know, is the government and corporate America. That's the real threat. And you know what I think I see happening is when you get, we've already seen videos since the 2020 riots where there's one video where cars driving by and you see like three guys with AR-15s in body armor at the end of their block. And these are probably just local dudes who knew each other who said, guys, these rights are bad. Let's go stand, watch, and make sure nobody comes

Starting point is 01:13:48 onto our street and screws with our friends and family. That's how it begins. Eventually, they're a neighborhood watch or they have a name, they need a way to recognize each other. Now there's too many members and like, well, let's give ourselves a code so that we know who's helping protect the neighborhood. They're gonna have other other neighbors that divide.

Starting point is 01:14:06 You're talking about Jimmy, where you might have like some guys who are Black Lives Matter activists, but then what's going to happen is the BLM guys in their neighborhood, and like, look, all we want to do is make sure our kids are okay and nobody's coming and screwing with us and we don't trust the police. And then these other guys are going to be like, yeah, they called us terrorists. We don't like them either. And that's when you get multiple factions and they're all pointing at the government.

Starting point is 01:14:26 Let me put it this way. If BLM is saying police are bad, a boss of the police, they oppress us. And now the feds are going after Trump supporters as terrorists. You're very, very close to BLM and Trump supporters being like, I'll do me, you do you, let's not fight each other, but those people hate us. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:14:40 And how do you deprogram these people? Because you said a unique word over there. You said, this is also called reeducation. I hate to break it to Hillary Clinton. You're not going to convince these guys to vote for you. I don't know what reprogramming and deprogramming even looks like for something like that. But these are some of the same people

Starting point is 01:14:55 that would have voted gladly for Bernie Sanders in 2016. If you want to change it, if you want to change it. If you want to change it. The establishment, the status quo, the business's usual typical talking head politician in there. So how do they deprogram these people? It's never gonna happen. I think the opposite's happening.

Starting point is 01:15:10 I think in 2020, before 2019, it's a 2020 cycle. A lot of the people that I talk to, when you quote unquote touch grass, you go out to the real world, right? You get off the internet. They were saying things like, I'm in an Uber, and the guy's just like, I'm sick of Trump. I'm sick of the division.

Starting point is 01:15:24 If we vote for Biden, it goes away. And I'm telling them Uber and the guy's just like I'm sick of Trump I'm sick of the division if we just if we vote for Biden it goes away And I'm I'm telling like you know Trump's not the cause of this. He's a symptom of it And so what I'm seeing now and it's a story that I've been telling I was hanging out at the poker tables in Charleston West Virginia and you get you get some people It's a mixed area actually in the Eastern Panhandle So I get one guy recognizes me and says you think Trump Trump's gonna win blah, blah, blah, blah. And I said, I might take his name off the ballot in one state and then who knows what happens.

Starting point is 01:15:49 One guy chimes in and goes, I hate Trump. But man, this stuff's freaking me out. They shouldn't be doing this. And so what I'm hearing now, and I've heard this a couple of times, so it's very anecdotal, is that typically the people who would say, Trump's the cause of the problem, are now realizing Trump's not the of the problem, are now realizing,

Starting point is 01:16:05 Trump's not the president anymore, and they're not stopping. And the persecution, the political persecution, and the weaponization of government is starting to terrify the people who are begging to be left alone. The people who are begging to be left alone, I don't think we'll ever take a barms and go fight or whatever, but they'll vote, and they won't vote for Democrats. I'm not saying they'll vote for Trump either, but now I think they're scared and they're starting to realize that vote for Biden didn't end the culture war. It made it worse. And then so I want to ask both of you guys a question, Jimmy Antemps. So, you know, a lot of people might self-include a 2020 wasn't a free and fair election with

Starting point is 01:16:37 federal agencies involved FBI, Twitter, all that stuff. Are you guys concerned because think about it? Trump, all these what 91 charges all this stuff, he's still beating Biden. They know it, they're not stupid. Do you guys think Jimmy, something's, I mean, we talked about in the green room, something's coming, do you feel like something manufacturers coming, they've been warning us about a bunch of different stuff from pandemic two and all this stuff? They're not winning. Is something going to happen that you guys think it's going to tour that you come in and put all these FBI people in every bus. Yes, they've manufactured.

Starting point is 01:17:09 So I think I'm under the belief that most of those Black Lives Matter protests were half manufactured by the FBI in the deep state to create a sensation of chaos to make people afraid of a civil war coming. They don't care. A civil war is helpful to the establishment because they were all distracted and they get to keep doing everything they want to do. So yeah, I'd be afraid the infiltrators are the FBI, the CIA, the deep state. They're the ones who are going to probably do something. You're right. And they'll do it. And then now we have to give martial law. Now we have to crack down. Now we have to do just like they did with

Starting point is 01:17:42 lockdowns. And then we already live in a surveillance state and half the country more of its forced censorship, which is just, you know, that's that old saying that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance. And so people aren't being vigilant now. And we're giving away our free speech. We're letting journalists that are being prosecuted right out in the open like Julian Assange. And so yes, they will do whatever it is. And if they need to create a quasi civil war or a chaos, they're going to do it. They've already been doing it. And you're exactly right. I think people are starting to wake up just like stop cop city.

Starting point is 01:18:13 They use the same Rico statutes, the same Rico grand jury that prosecuted Trump. They did it to those stop cop city. And so people, I think are way like, wait, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, right? So we all have the same enemy It's the government they're using the same thing just like you described. That's a perfect new way to put it And I hope people are waking up to that now I hope it doesn't come to violent to civil war before people realize the game that's happening But I really do hope people like black lives matter and the people that you described are gonna come together and realize Hey, it's the illegitimate government

Starting point is 01:18:46 and we need to come together. I really hope that happens. So the first thing I wanna say is a civil war is an excellent opportunity for the establishment because they could destroy the constitution. If fighting happens, it gives them excuse. But the other thing I wanna say is

Starting point is 01:18:57 you look at what happened in New York with that guy who got murdered at Ryan Carson. The attitude from the right is, well, I don't know. What was that story? So Ryan Carson and his girlfriend Claudia, I think her name's Claudia Morales. They're sitting on a bus bench Now the media is reported. They're waiting for a bus, but I don't believe that makes sense a man a 18 year old young black man walks past them Almost immediately after we have the video. Yeah, there's a they get up and follow him the dude then screen It's attack he's pushing a scooter

Starting point is 01:19:23 I don't know what Carson says to him or for whatever happens next. Brian Dowling, the man in the sweater allegedly, says, what the, what the effort you're looking at, I'll kill you right now, mother, effort. Comes at him. Carson pushes M stands as ground, pushes him again, Dowling slaps him. Carson pushes him, tries to run trips, falls, dialing stabs him three times with this, with I believe like a six-inch blade. Piercing his heart and killing him.

Starting point is 01:19:51 Now the thing about the story is, look, this stuff happens, right? The, this guy was a left-wing activist who worked for a leftist nonprofits and that's, that's him dying right now. And the response from the right is you reap what you sow. When I looked at stuff like Stop Cop City, we've had our complaints about what we're seeing across this country with destabilization and law enforcement, targeting J6ers,

Starting point is 01:20:15 while the Chaz chop and the George Floyd, autonomous only Atlanta, autonomous zone, were largely ignored. Now we're seeing Stop Cop City, actually, like you mentioned, they're getting the ricochargers, they're bringing them in. When I was saying, it's gonna come to the point where MAGA and BLM are just like, yeah, okay,

Starting point is 01:20:30 you do, we do us, but those people hate us. We're at the point now where people are looking at these cities and being like, well, you voted for it, it's all you. I think we do the point where, you know, StopCop City's not gonna appear on the radar of most Trump supporters and give a shit about what's going on in an urban center that the left has run the way they want to run. So you're of most Trump supporters and give a shit about what's going on in an urban center that the left has taken has has run the way they want to run.

Starting point is 01:20:47 So you're going to get Trump supporters focused on their areas where they want to protect their families. If it comes to the point, you know, right now, a lot of people's concerns with things like StopCop City and these autonomous zones is that it's destabilizing. It's not good. But if we come to the point where they're calling Trump supporters extremists and then Trump supporters circle the wagons around their areas and then the left circles their wagons around their areas, you've got three factions.

Starting point is 01:21:10 You've got the establishment, the government, and then you've got the left and the right. I don't see the left and the right fighting each other over cities. Republicans are leaving cities. They don't want to be there. More conservative-leaning people are moving out of these cities. Miami-Dade, I think, is one of the exceptions that went red but then you're gonna you're it's like hey that's your place i don't care the question is gonna be whether or not people are dissociating themselves from

Starting point is 01:21:31 the federal government you know how how how local it becomes if it does break out how long how long can one be manipulated how long does it take until somebody you said you said a quote uh... tuffman before we got started we were not live if you want to repeat the quote. What's your one? The quote about the fact that I would have freed more slaves. Oh, Harriet Tubman.

Starting point is 01:21:49 Yeah. Harriet Tubman said, I freed many slaves. I would have freed many more if only they knew they were slaves. If only they knew they were slaves. Okay, so let's, let's, some people you can't do anything for. Some people can manipulate forever, right? But you can't manipulate everybody for a long time. When parents get a divorce, typically one of the parents can manipulate the kids to believe

Starting point is 01:22:10 the other parent was the bad parent. And they'll get away with it for your three years, five years, ten years, but you can't do it permanently. Eventually, a kid's going to grow up and say, listen, I understand what you're saying. I don't fully buy into it. Now, I think you were wrong, Dad. I think you were wrong, Mom, on what you did XYZ, right? And the question then becomes, how many people are right now sitting there saying, dude, I think these guys are pinning us against each other.

Starting point is 01:22:34 Well, let me, let me, let me point something. I got this very delicious, uh, vault phenomenal drink. If you don't know how to touch your brain, feel, I feel great. And people could probably tell, I'm like talking a million miles an hour. This black charred, delicious energy drink that you guys made has no sugar in it. So what happened to a hundred years of advertising from Coca-Cola, where finally we broke out and said, we don't want that high fructose sugar garbage

Starting point is 01:22:56 in our drinks, we want something that's healthier that's got natural sweeteners. And so you look at propaganda manipulation. Let's go back to marketing and advertising. Coca-Cola ads across the board in every country, a dollar for a cup, we make it affordable for everybody. And we have a whole generation that doesn't want to drink soda.

Starting point is 01:23:12 Somehow, we broke that multi-billion-dollar a year machine to propagandaize us into drinking garbage. And they roll out in the 80s, these artificial sweeteners, and we all buy into it. But now, all of a sudden, you've got a generation of people and more being like, we don't wanna ask for tame, we don't want splendor, we don't want hyphructose corn syrup, right? Stevia is a leaf extract or a monk fruit,

Starting point is 01:23:33 and now, you know, it's really funny as I'm seeing everybody drink these spin drifts. Have you seen them? It's club soda and lemon juice. It's like sugar-free lemonade. We broke the manipulation, we broke that propaganda, right? So it's possible. And maybe it's 100 years? I don't know. But the most powerful propaganda machine outside of the US government, I think is these massive dopamine stimulating foods and stuff that they want people

Starting point is 01:23:57 guzzling and drinking. And if we can stop drinking Coca-Cola, and I think especially in health conversations like this, we're not drinking the garbage of the government, then I think the manipulation breaks at some point. You know what, I'm going with this. I'm sorry, go ahead Jimmy. No, I just wanted to say that we eat so much crap in this country. Like I was just in Italy, and they don't spray their wheat with the glycer fate, like we do. So if you eat pasta, hair, or anything's got that so corn, the way they make corn in

Starting point is 01:24:23 America, right? So Bobby Kennedy explained it to me on the show is that they put this glysofate, they figured out if they genetically modified corn, you can put glysofate on it and it will kill everything except this corn. So now that's what, and then corn's in everything. They put that high fructose corn syrup even in bread. You can't get it. So that's in everything.

Starting point is 01:24:42 It's in all your wheat, it's in all your bread. And so that's why we're so sick as a goddamn country. We're getting sicker and sicker and sicker. We're not getting healthier and healthier. It's because all the goddamn poisons we're eating in our food. When I worked for American Eagle Airlines, we would do de-icing in the winter.

Starting point is 01:24:55 I'm at Chicago, Ohio Airport. And I'm up in this big cherry picker on top of a truck with this big hose over my shoulder and a lever out, pole, and blast something called Propylene glycol onto these planes. Propylene glycol is used as an antifreeze. It has two formulations. One was a 50-50 water mech, which was hot.

Starting point is 01:25:14 And it was hot propylene glycol to blast the ice off. Then we would use a 100% pure propylene glycol to then keep the ice from forming. The ice are on the planes, right? They put this in muffins at guest stations. Oh, what? They say it's fineins at guest stations. Oh, what? They say it's fine for you to eat, don't worry. And apparently what it does is it's this gel.

Starting point is 01:25:31 When you add it to muffins and food, it makes it seem oily. Because I love that part of it. Damn it. When you make a cake, you put oil in it. And that's what makes it gooey and delicious. And look, it says, recognize this by safe by the FDN. Are you kidding me?

Starting point is 01:25:46 How does that be impossible? Now hold on. It may be the case that like just because I use it as anti-freeze in an airplane, doesn't mean it's literal ethylene. I think it's ethylene glycol, which is you do not drink. That goes in your engine.

Starting point is 01:25:57 But when I worked for American Eagle, they said, keep it off your skin, avoid contact, cover your mouth, and avoid getting large quantities on you. The FDA says it's safe, but we are advising you not to get it on you. And there was even a story. One guy said that his buddy walked out of the break room

Starting point is 01:26:14 and he pointed at him and just blasted him with it because they thought it was safe and I'm like, bro, they thought his bestest was safe. Okay, how many, they thought cigarettes were safe. Agent Orange. So, but look, I know where I'm going with this though, this, this, this to part of my manipulation that I'm talking about. I think all of us have been manipulated before. You have, I have, I've got the Vax. Yeah, well there you go. A highest level of manipulation,

Starting point is 01:26:37 right? But we've all been manipulated before. Nobody is free from that. Okay, we've been ripped off before. We've been manipulated. Yesterday I'm talking to Prager Yuz, CEO, Marissa, straight she's here, she's doing a show with me, she's in for the show and she's talking, hey, what do you think about what's going on American all this stuff? I said, what is the business model of a divorce attorney?

Starting point is 01:26:56 Think about a business model of a divorce attorney. Think about a business model of a nup shell agreement attorney. What did they do? This is how it typically starts. You'll say, hey babe, you know, let's just get all this stuff on paper because I love you, you love me.

Starting point is 01:27:09 Let's get on paper in case. Who knows what's gonna happen five, 10, 15, 20 years? So now I just wanna make sure we're both protected. Okay, I'm game. Why don't we come up with the terms and then we go to the lawyers and then we say, this is what we agreed on. So you guys agree, what if this happens?

Starting point is 01:27:24 What if that happens? What if this happens? What if that happens, what if this happens, what if that happened? You do hours of the conversation, then you hire a lawyer. You have to have your own lawyer. She has to have her own lawyer. Okay, you call the lawyer and say, how much does it cost to put an upshelgrim? My husband and I have already agreed on all the terms. The lawyer says, oh, no more than three to five5,000. Oh, fantastic. Let's do it. Then comes the first meeting. Okay. Hey, here's what we agreed on.

Starting point is 01:27:49 She gives it to her lawyer. He gives it to his lawyer. Her lawyer says, Mary, you know, I don't mean to intrude. I know you guys have agreed on this, but this is the lowest I've seen a wife get out of all the wives. I have been doing nupcial agreements for. I'm not, I don't want to create cause anything, but I don't know.

Starting point is 01:28:08 I think you should, you know, maybe increases. Would you like me to bring it up to the attorney? So then the wife sits there and says, what? Yeah, okay, sure. So then wife gives the lawyer the permission. Lawyer calls his lawyer. The lawyer's like, what are you talking about? They already agreed on this.

Starting point is 01:28:24 Well, she wants more on this. Then his lawyer calls who? Calls him. Oh, God. And he says, what did she say? And then he calls who? The wife. And he's like, what are you talking about?

Starting point is 01:28:35 Well, babe, she said no wife. That, that, that, that, that, that, that. I was like, will you agree on this? Or are you talking about fight breaks out, right? What happens behind closed doors? The entire time you're thinking, your lawyer is on your side, her lawyer is on her side,

Starting point is 01:28:49 but the reality of it is the lawyers are on each other's side. The more conflict they create between the husband and the five, a wife, a month later, two months later, the bill comes. 11,728 dollars. What's this? At that I said to you to five, yeah, but I didn't think you were gonna have all these other changes.

Starting point is 01:29:05 You asked for another. I never asked where the changes you caused it. What's gonna cost you $11,000 this? What's the point? I think these divorce lawyer, nupshool agreement lawyers are actually the establishment. This is the perfect analogy where they're using the parties on different sides who made different certain,

Starting point is 01:29:23 like right now you said, I disagree with Matt Kates on this on this on this but I agree with them I'm pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop so what started to take places on Democrats and Republicans are like look Dude if there is something we're both on the same side with am anti-establishment Muslims and Christians dude I'm against what they're doing with you know These kids LGBTQ. I'm pro family. I'm one of, you cannot touch me. We're on the same page. Wait, what?

Starting point is 01:29:47 Christians or Muslims, yeah. BLM and this mega, dude, I can't stand the fact that, but we're on the same page with this. Families, I'm living in Chicago. You're coming to use my gym for migrants. What the hell are you talking about? This is my gym for my kids. And Republicans and Texas, we gotta protect the border.

Starting point is 01:30:02 I'm a Republican here at the time. But dude, we're on the same show what's happening. All of this manipulation, people are starting to realize. We're on the same page when it comes down to them forcing us what to do. I'm not for this anymore. And then what happens with the Gallup polls? It's shown what it's shown. What happens with Ukraine?

Starting point is 01:30:18 Well, but the part that's the hardest thing to do, the hardest thing to do is the lifespan of manipulation. It's the lifespan of manipulation. Is it one day? Is it one month? Is it one year? Is it 10 years? Is it 50 years?

Starting point is 01:30:35 You joined a feminist movement 50 years ago on your 68 years old, and I guess what, it's too late. Because they got you for 50 freaking years. Our job is to try to shorten the lifespan of how long were manipulated They're shorter were manipulated to sooner. We can be like whoa, whoa, I'm free. I see it. I see what's going on But so the goal is for us to kind of go and say Boom now I'll get it. I see what you guys are doing

Starting point is 01:30:57 I'm not with it. That that's the part where I see hope in Both sides seeing that the divorce attorneys are trying to create a divorce in America to make more money and fees on the back end. I think the American people are starting to realize what's really going on. But I think that's fair if you were to let take a look at someone like me or someone like Jimmy, where Jimmy, I think you have more economically left views than I would. I'm more probably moderate, maybe I would say, I usually view myself economically a little bit to the left, but then

Starting point is 01:31:25 there's someone like Lucrod Kowski, who's a friend of mine who's very like anarcho-capitalist free market. Yeah, I agree with you there. And I think those realizations have happened when Jimmy's praising Matt Gates, because Matt Gates is basically challenging the establishment that happened. But I see too many people who have millions of followers and go on social media and they make videos where they're like, we should be at war in Ukraine. And that is the establishment.

Starting point is 01:31:47 So it's not just like- Yeah, but they're part of the camp that's still manipulated. That's what I mean by it, because people fall on different camps. They're still part of the manipulated camp. For example, you got a guy that didn't get the vaccine. Did you get the vaccine or you didn't?

Starting point is 01:32:00 I didn't. So there's a folks that didn't get the vaccine, right? There's a folks that only got one shot. I know guys that only got one of the shots of Johnson Johnson. There's guys that got two the shots. There's guys that got the two shots and the first booster. There's guys that got the second booster then stop. The third booster then the fourth booster.

Starting point is 01:32:15 And then there's people that are still taking all of it, right? Like Kelsey coming out saying, hey, get your two shots. You're dating Taylor Swift, come and get the Pfizer shot. All I'm saying is some people are continues to be manipulated. Some people are dropping off. So I think what you're describing would then be, it's kind of a corruption of what Andrew Breitbart had said a long time ago, but I imagine it like, we have all jumped through the wall of fire.

Starting point is 01:32:39 Imagine there is a fire and there are a lot of people you're describing that are still manipulated and they're told, if you go through that fire, you will burn, it will be held, don't do it, don't do it. And then some people finally break, jump through, on the other side, they're on the beach, there's a party happening, we're all here, we disagree on a lot of things, we agree on a lot of things,

Starting point is 01:32:58 we're left, right, center, varying degrees of libertarian. Some people even authoritarian, but just don't like the way it's being run now. And they're arguing with us because they realize the machine's been lying. I would say that the manipulation right now is those, you can call it those in the matrix, those outside of the matrix. There are left wing individuals who are friends with right wing individuals and debating these ideas, and they're all called right wing because they're outside of that field of manipulation that you're describing. So I suppose we're on the side where we're having

Starting point is 01:33:24 the debate, and we don't know everything, but we're on the side where we're having the debate and we don't know everything, but we're trying to figure it out. Many of these people are marching in lockstep with the official corporate government narrative. So when the manipulation on them breaks, will we win, right? Yeah, but you're thinking we have to be at 100% to win.

Starting point is 01:33:41 We never liked that. We have to be 30%. It could be 20%. Yeah, it could be 10%. It's a lot smaller. A organization where $3 trillion was founded by two guys, called Apple. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:33:54 Even Steve, right? It took two guys to build a $3 trillion organization with a vision they had and then they recruit all the other people in the company got bigger and bigger and bigger. But the reality of it is you don't need as many true believers as you think you need. Joe was one guy, Joe Rogan is one guy, right? What did he do with his podcast?

Starting point is 01:34:10 He went from being a pro smoke weed legalized marijuana documentaries, okay, then that happened. Hey, I'm Bernie Sanders, this is what I'm doing. Okay, oh shit, Joe's for Bernie. And it's like, uh, vote Republican. Wait, what? How did you go through the civil revolution, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:34:26 And then Elon Musk is saying, the only way we can save it is vote Republican. It's kind of weird what's going on. But all I'm saying is, I think the, I think every one of us, whether it comes down to financially our health, you know, either we're too lazy to want to learn for ourselves, right, like the other day we're sitting here with Liz Wheeler and we're talking about whether LeBron James is wife,

Starting point is 01:34:44 ordered steroids and PD and is, is she kind of using a PD, kind of like Peyton Manning's wife at the same thing, and are they gonna do what they did to a Lance Armstrong? And then she's like, well, you know, it's not fair that these guys are using all this stuff as a listen, everybody in America knows how to get a six pack. How come we don't have six packs? Everybody in America knows how to get a six pack.

Starting point is 01:35:01 To tell me one person that does know how to get a six pack. Don't eat sugar, you know eat B.S. food, change your diet, do five minutes of abs every day within 12 months. You're gonna have a six pack if you do the thing. But how come so few people have six packs? Because it's hard to do. So either we're not willing to put the work

Starting point is 01:35:18 to get clarity for ourselves or we are simply caught in the web of being manipulated for too long and we're not free yet. You know, something know, something amazing is Ian Crossland, who's a one of coasts on IRL. He weighed 127 pounds. 127 pounds. And we were shooting a music video and we told them like part of it is we're going to film it in three parts over six weeks. So we need you to work out. He's kept working out, you know why? It feels good. It feels so good. So it's hard to start. Super like a bogey.

Starting point is 01:35:46 Yeah, super like a bogey. And Pepe just one last thing too. And I think it is too Jimmy. It's like the American people are so traumatized with all the stuff that we've been talking about. It's almost as if they have like civilian Stockholm syndrome. And you know what it is? It's where the abuse falls in love with the abuser.

Starting point is 01:36:03 And it's like they're so like attached and we you know This is my we they can't get that that mindset Switched around I mean unlike us these p. I think it's I have hope But I think that they're too embedded in it too in love with the system To be you want to publicly announce that you're joining the club of five people. I'm joining the You want to do that or no? No, I'm not going to do it. You're not going to do it. You're going to hang in there, because we're going to go for another hour.

Starting point is 01:36:27 And then I have to do that. Okay, so let me go to the next story. All right, next story, Jimmy. So the Santas, okay, the Santas, ran the Santas. We're talking about all this stuff. Some Republicans are not Trump at all. We had Anne Cother,

Starting point is 01:36:39 who lost her mind on anything good to say about Trump, and she's pro-descentist. That's who she would like to see as a candidate. By the way, so are a lot of other people that are part of this. They're not sinners. They cannot stand Trump and the can't even stand thinking about the idea of voting for Trump. So, around the Santa's jabs, Trump says he would be a lame duck president if elected. This is a CNBC story. Florida Governor, around the centers and a Cmbc interview criticized Trump Electability stating he would be a lame duck on day one if he could even get elected The centers express doubts that Trump's ability to dress key issues saying I think he'd have Major problems with personnel and a point and pointed out that Trump failed to drain the swamp and make Mexico pay for the border wall

Starting point is 01:37:20 The centers highlighted that Trump's record emphasizing that Trump increased the national debt by $7.8 trillion. During his presidency and he said, and of course, he didn't deliver on his core promises. The Santa's discussed the strategy, noting he would emulate President Biden's approach by using the budget reconciliation process to pass his agenda. When you hear these stories of the Santa's going after Trump, what do you think about? This is going to hurt the Santaace in the polls why is that de Santis is playing a pot political game during a culture war and so you look at you crane and you look at a lot of these issues

Starting point is 01:37:54 uh... michael more put it best when he said that uh... uh... donald trump was the was at the biggest collective f u in history that he would be a human mouth of cocktail lobbed into the system now that's a great speech he gave. He then goes on to say, and they'll regret, they'll like it for a month or a minute, and then they'll come to regret it or whatever he said. He was wrong about that last part. Rhonda Santas keeps trying to play this policy game. We love the policy.

Starting point is 01:38:15 You know, I was a big, I was actually saying to Santas was the guy a year and a half ago, but what he doesn't understand is the cultural issues and what gets a president elected, and it's not this. This is why I just, he's dropping the polls. Nikki Haley is now beating Rhonda Sanders on predicted. I think his campaign has been too much, has been just too, my own white word is stodgy and it's not in the cultural zeitgeist. It is, you know, he did a bunch of things that were really great in Florida.

Starting point is 01:38:47 He led the country very well. I think he did fantastic job. He's our best governor. I was saying for a while, he was the best politician in the country. Now I would say it's Matt Gates. But Ron DeSantis is playing a game that no one else cares to listen to at this point. I think for the most part, it is sad. It breaks my heart to see all of these really great policies that he's talking about wanting to implement

Starting point is 01:39:06 but then his campaign is run like a disaster it is a it's a complete disaster and he doesn't have a spinger on the pulse of what's going on you know what andri brats i mean he said what uh... politics is downshin from culture the synthesis policy wonky probably is the best policy guy on that stage but that's not why Americans voting right now.

Starting point is 01:39:26 There are nobody's like delving into Trump's policy at all. They're just going with him because of his persona. They're saying, we have watched the Capitol Police expand beyond DC into Florida, into California. We, there was a woman in Alaska whose home was ready because she looked like a woman who was in the Capitol. And so they said, we're gonna break in her house. You've got a, a, a, a, in Rikitario, 22 years in prison, despite not even being there because he posted

Starting point is 01:39:50 a message on parlor saying don't, don't, don't have to leave or something like that. Joe Biggs, they said he get a terrorist, he gets a terrorist modification because he knocked over. He's accused of knocking over a metal barricade. And I'm like, dude, look, riding at the capital is bad. The dude should probably have time serve. He's been locked up for two years over this. He walked around goofing and laughing and they gave him two decades. These are the things that are freaking people out. Rhonda Santis is playing this

Starting point is 01:40:12 game of well, if you look at our policies, we've got to address these issues. Meanwhile, people are in solitary confinement and we're going like we need someone who's going to just scream at these people. And my thing about Trump is I I don't think he's gonna be the best president or the best guy for the job. I can appreciate no new worse. I can appreciate his plans or withdrawal. I appreciate when he admitted American foreign policy was hilarious.

Starting point is 01:40:33 And I think he wants revenge. And that revenge means he fires a lot of people who deserve to be fired. Ron DeSantis looks like he's gonna be a guy who's gonna come in and say, well, I'm gonna try and get done what I can get done to benefit this country, but that means I got to play ball so I don't get kicked out or attacked like Trump does. And that's the message of the American political class for my entire life of, well, if I push

Starting point is 01:40:54 too hard, they'll oust to me. So at least I can get a little change here, what that basically means is I'm going to swim with the current. I'm going to go with the flow with all the school of fish, and then maybe at some point I might get lucky and add a grain of sand to the heap of change. Now, I'm not interested. I want a human mile tough cocktail. I want Donald Trump to go in and just be like, I'm firing everybody because I want revenge,

Starting point is 01:41:14 whatever it is, whatever it is. Not bad, Tim. I don't think Ron DeSantis is a revenge guy. I think he's a policy guy and I think he's gonna play ball and he's gonna negotiate. That's not good for us. Pat, what are the chances that Anne Coulter, who was just here three days ago, is actually advising DeSantis now. Because if you look at what he's basically,

Starting point is 01:41:31 and DeSantis is on the offensive now, the gloves are off, he's basically calling out Trump. He wasn't doing that a month ago. He's saying he didn't dream to saw him, he didn't build the wall, promises made, promises uncapped. She must have said wall how many times?

Starting point is 01:41:45 65 times. Okay. So what is a chance is that she's advising Trump, uh, DeSantis that this I don't, I don't know. I mean, DeSantis hired the worst possible campaign staff in the history of a president of president. I, it's probably not fair, but in my lifetime, I can't believe the people he hired. His, his, his PR department effectively started attacking everyone

Starting point is 01:42:05 in the most annoying and nails on a chalkboard way. And this caused them to lose a bunch of their support. The DeSantis campaign actually has an internal medic that their people cannot appear on my show because we criticize Rhonda Santas. Not a joke, absolutely serious. People who are friends of ours, who have been on Tim Kestair all before

Starting point is 01:42:25 are not allowed to come on the show. We've reached out to them saying, hey look, we've had criticisms, but we like him as a policy guy. Come on, nope, won't do it. And I'm just like, then you guys deserve to lose. Well, this is the fourth time we're trying that we got it, I think third,

Starting point is 01:42:41 it could be the third, I could be wrong on third or fourth time that we're getting a date on the calendar. We're gonna see if this one's actually gonna happen or not, it's in two or three weeks. That's what I mean. Wait, so they keep canceling on you? The weather was one issue and a couple of other things,

Starting point is 01:42:54 but this next one that we're gonna have is in two or three weeks, he's gonna be here. We'll see obviously whether that'll happen or not. It's okay, if he's. But his guy, Brian, has reached out multiple times saying we're gonna do this and we're looking forward to having a conversation with him. So good luck to you. But his guy, Brian, has reached out multiple times saying we're going to do this and we're looking forward to having a conversation with him.

Starting point is 01:43:07 Well, good luck to you. No, for us, when Rhonda Santis announced his campaign on Twitter, on X, and it crashed, and his rousing speech was, we're leading the great American comeback. I said, that is the, like least charismatic announcement I've heard. Barack Obama stands in front of 10,000 people in Chicago and he says, and that is why I am running for president. They go, wow, and they go nuts. Trump has the elevator moment, these grand moments and Ron missed it. You say that one time. And then all of a sudden, all of the people that support Ron DeSantis will just level every possible insult.

Starting point is 01:43:40 We had, I had a debate between Laura Lumer and Bill Mitchell on the culture war podcast, my Friday morning show. And I asked Bill Mitchell why it was that I keep trying to defend this on policy and criticism where I think it deserves it, but I think I'm being reasonable. Why am I being called an effing moron piece of trash? Why are people just inundating me with these nasty messages? Look, I'm a man. I don't care.

Starting point is 01:44:04 You're saying it. I'm telling you it's hurting your campaign. And as immediate response was, well, Laura Lumer posted a picture, I said, stop. I don't care about Laura Lumer. I'm this middle of the road guy who liked DeSantis. I am saying, I have some legitimate criticisms of him right here. Here's why I like him. Why are you insulting me?

Starting point is 01:44:18 And he goes, well, Alex Bruce, so it's like there it is. You lost. You lost. Alex Bruce, so it's in Laura Lumer, master trolls. They are huge Trump fans. They are, Alex Bruceowitz and Laura Loomer master trolls. They are huge Trump fans. They have no one supports Trump more than Laura Loomer and they figured it out. They insulted the DeSantis campaign

Starting point is 01:44:34 and the DeSantis campaign took the bait and went nuts and started attacking everyone in response. I've had people from, I don't wanna drag anyone else this, high profile conservatives who have never said a bad word of DeSantis come to me and they were like, I'm getting attacked by the DeSantis people for some reason. I don't know what's going on. And I'm like, oh yeah, it's because this campaign staff

Starting point is 01:44:51 are just blowing up his campaign. They wanted to lose. When I have a guy with two million followers who is a fan of DeSantis and he said, all that he did was he said he thinks Trump's gonna win based on the polls and they just went after him. Insult insulting in every Me and nasty way all of his surrogates. They said you're an effing idiot just like nasty stuff

Starting point is 01:45:09 And I'm like, yeah, I think they want them to lose. That's all I can say. It's it's the most poorly run campaign I've ever seen You know, can I just change this subject a little bit? You're talking about when people start to wake up and when are they stopping? Manipulated when are people going to realize so this I've had people say to me about the Trump prosecutions and I tried to explain to them what this really is is criminalizing the establishments, enemies, and they go, but Jimmy, Donald Trump actually did break laws. And I'm like, so you think we're supposed to prosecute

Starting point is 01:45:39 Donald Trump for whatever that law is, you think he broke, when Dick Cheney and George Bush walked here, if they ordered a torture program, and Barack Obama was supposed to prosecute those guys constitutionally required to, and he didn't, and the reason why he did was the public reason why is he said that all those torture crimes happened in the past,

Starting point is 01:45:55 and Barack Obama's looking towards the future, which, you know, all the crimes I've committed are in the past, too, so I'm glad we're not prosecuting those, but the reason why he didn't for real is because he works for the same people. And Barack Obama was not a departure from George W. Bush. Barack Obama took us from two wars to seven. Barack Obama kicked five point one million families out of their houses while he made sure that the bankers got their bonuses. Barack Obama deported twice as many Hispanics as Donald Trump. He built those cages. They

Starting point is 01:46:21 put those people in. He dropped more bombs than George W. Bush. And so they'll and now they remember they used to say they hated Ralph Nader because they he gave us George Bush. Well, now they all love George Bush because George Bush called the people on January 6th, terrorists. So now the establishment loves him again, but they still ate Ralph Nader. Isn't that amazing? So that that's the what I hope people wake up to that fact that if you're gonna prosecute Donald Trump It can't be because he's breaking laws because we already have people who are war criminals every president So war criminal in my lifetime and not only that they ordered a torture program and Barack Obama said Yep, we tortured some folks and then he didn't prosecute anybody for it

Starting point is 01:46:58 In fact, they put one something that the head of the CIA Forget her name Haspel and they a haspil right and they said oh she broke the glass ceiling because she's ahead of the cia yet she broke the glass ceiling and then she picked up one of those charges glass started torturing people with it for a co-bama killed a sixteen year old american citizen in the blood ordering a drone strike which killed up door among all the locky at a civilian restaurant in the emin a country we are not at war with.

Starting point is 01:47:25 And when confronted, Lucrid Kowski, if we are changed, confronting Obama's team at, I believe it was like a DNC debate in 2012, everything it was. And the response was, he should have had a better father. Uh-huh. Barack Obama's, the official administrative response was, oopsie daisy. Oopsie daisy. You ordered a drone strike on a nation we are not at war with, a civilian restaurant with tons of collateral damage and casualties killing a 16 year old American.

Starting point is 01:47:51 And do we get a prosecution of Barack Obama? No, no, no, no. The reason he's not gonna go after Bush is because he's playing the game with them. That's right. Like you said, we're for the same company. Now, that article you pulled up from the internet, I wanna bring that, you can pull that one back up.

Starting point is 01:48:03 Donald Trump ordered a commando raid in Yemen, one of the first acts, which reportedly resulted in the death of an eight year old American girl. And I'll say this too, there should be an investigation into what happened and how this girl died. And if Donald Trump is responsible for the death of an eight year old American girl, I want military tributes. I don't care. I want investigation. I want prosecution.

Starting point is 01:48:23 That being said, the Obama administration definitively, we know for a fact it's been reported far and wide and they've admitted it order to drone strike that killed these people. The Trump administration order a commando raid. However, the current understanding we have is that people have asserted the commando raid result into the death of this girl. It's not as clear. I don't care. There should be an investigation of both. And if Trump is clear of wrongdoing, so be it. If not, lock them all up. Listen to that interesting that they're not prosecuting Donald Trump for that. Exactly. Exactly.

Starting point is 01:48:53 Because they've all committed those crimes. So that's why it took them so long to impeach Donald Trump. They had to find a crime that he committed that they also didn't commit and are complicit in. And that's what, so this is just a big game. It's an obvious, so I think people are waking up to this is a political prosecution of Donald Trump and that's why every time he gets indicted, his numbers go up. I'll play this game.

Starting point is 01:49:14 When some leftists or Democrat or whoever liberal Neil Lib says, shouldn't we hold people accountable for their crimes? I'll be like, I'll make a deal with you. Did you hear about how Trump killed that eight-year-old American girl in Yemen? The book, no, I'm like, yeah, look it up, look it up. Let's do this. How about we prosecute him for that?

Starting point is 01:49:27 Yeah. And then when they say, sure, about Greta Obama's next. Yeah. And they'll go, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 01:49:36 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no And the random civilians, you know? Right. American citizens who are constitutionally protected. And Obama killed Onwar Alalaki Abdul Rahman's dead. So the working theory is that Barack Obama kills Onwar Alalaki, admittedly saying, well, he was a jihadi. I don't care. There are a lot of Americans in this country with bad opinions.

Starting point is 01:49:59 You don't blow them up. But while you know Obama said he could do it. Why then did his 16 year old son die? You expect me to believe that it was an accident? You blew up a civilian restaurant with this guy's kid, didn't it? I think Barack Obama was like, I'm going to make sure all these people who challenge us know, we'll fucking kill your kids. And that's what he did when he killed Abdul Rahman Al Alakhi. I don't believe the narrative from the establishment, we made an accident. It was just an accident when we were trying to get somebody else. Whoopsie Daisy.

Starting point is 01:50:26 Whoopsie Daisy, we were targeting a terror leader and it just so happened, it was the 16 year old son of the guy we just killed. So I think this is abject evil, killing some dudes kid, the kid, grew up in Colorado, he lived in San Diego, he was born in Colorado, he lived in San Diego, and he was killed by Obama administration drone strike.

Starting point is 01:50:43 If you accidentally kill an American citizen, guess what, we lock you up. Now, if you wanna make the argument that collateral damage happens in war, and we give the president a wide mandate on recognizing that sometimes civilians die in these conflicts and it sucks, fine. I think it's bullshit.

Starting point is 01:50:59 When we have the video released by Julian Assange collateral murder where Reuters journalists are shot down by Apache and killed, that the argument they give us is like, we was in accident, we thought they were armed in terrorists, and the American people typically buy this for whatever reason I don't. But when they kill American citizens without charge or trial, I kind of think like, hey, you know, we've got evil people running our country and they should be prosecuted.

Starting point is 01:51:20 Instead, they go after Trump on BS about, he his lawyers argued he won an election and they filed the paperwork and they did the alternate elector slates which had happened before in 1961. I'm supposed to care about that. I'm supposed to care about that when Julian Assange has been locked up for the past decade and they've effectively executed him. They've done it away where they can prevent him from being a martyr but they've destroyed his life because he exposed their work rhymes. I'm not, I'm just, I get, suff gets me so pissed off. Sorry. I'm right there with you. But let's talk

Starting point is 01:51:47 about RFK and side note, if the same is you want them on your podcast, did you want them to go to West Virginia? Would you go to Tallahassee to have them on? Well, I think initially we, we offered to come to Florida. We've said the same thing for the Trump team as well, because like, come on, like, we're not gonna tell someone, you have to come here, that makes no sense. In fact, we've gone to Congress twice, I think twice, and did our show from congressional offices because we know that these guys are in the middle of a vote, they can't come, but they can run up to the show.

Starting point is 01:52:15 So you would go to Tallahassee to interview this thing. Absolutely, okay. But then that, if that's the case, I think you should do your show. I think it's a absolute must-go on your show, especially with the audience that you have. I thought maybe's a absolute must to go on your show, especially with the audience that you have. I thought maybe you want to come to West Virginia and the beach and West Virginia is slightly different than one of Florida. Maybe you would have preferred you coming

Starting point is 01:52:32 before. I'll pause this and though I mean it's a good time to come. Yeah. Papa. Was you ever have one? What's that? Uh, Papa. No. Uh, Apple, uh, West, it's a, what hillbilly banana. It's, uh, it's like the northernmost mango family fruit. And, uh, family fruit and it's like mango and banana combined and there's tens of thousands of them right now just falling everywhere. We're good. Amazing. Oh great. Yeah, they're amazing. You can make pop pop bread and stuff with them.

Starting point is 01:52:56 You don't typically find them in stores because they don't last that long. Just so you know, we were going to announce right now, that was a perfect mix. The newest flavor of wild, common ice with the new year they said the temple with his being honest about how about how about you're still let's talk about rfk rfk so poll comes out rfk juniors and the pen and run could pull more from trump then by the so he recent quenope uh...

Starting point is 01:53:20 quenope at the university poll indicates that rfk juniors uh... potential in the pen and run for twenty twenty four presidents he the university poll indicates that rfq juniors potential dependent on for 2024 presidency could this proportionately affect republicans rather than democrats notably the poll shows that republicans have a notably higher favorability rating for kennedy would 48% having a favorable view compared to only 14% on a democrat side so who would he take votes away from if he were to run as an independent? Well, I think definitely would be more votes from Trump. And that's why the Democrats forced his hand into leaving the primary. They completely were rigging it and cheating it, and they

Starting point is 01:53:55 were going to start making him pay for the primary if he wanted to have one. So he had no choice but to run a dependent and the reason why the Democrats wanted him to do that, they forced his hand is because they think he's going to take more votes from Trump. And I think he will because a lot of people who want to vote for Bobby Kennedy, their second choice would be Trump that nobody's going to vote for Bobby Kennedy. Their second choice would be Biden. Nobody. So, but I think what Bobby Kennedy's actually going to do is bring people who don't vote,

Starting point is 01:54:24 which is the biggest voting block, people who don't normally vote. They're going to see a reason to vote again because the guys really anti-establishment. And I think that what are the independence also, which is the second biggest voting block, are going to be drawn to him. So I think that he might take votes from Trump, but I think he's going to energize people who don't normally vote to come out and vote. I'm a little split on this one. You know, in the story came out, I actually said, I don't think it'll be from Trump because

Starting point is 01:54:52 Phil LaBonte on the show said in the most eloquent way that Trump's bottom is solid. He's not his voter base at 44% they're never going anywhere no matter what. And the poll showing that Republicans have a higher favorability of RFK is true because his anti-establishment doesn't mean they're going to vote for him. However, that being said, I hear from a lot of people that they're very, very pissed off that Donald Trump backed Fauci, didn't fire him, and all the COVID stuff. And if RFK's principal position is the anti-COVID stuff, Trump's still coming out and saying, you know, that he saved a hundred million lives.

Starting point is 01:55:25 He's told his liberal friend said this, and he likes what he did. I'm like, you might actually end up seeing people be like, I'll vote for RFK, Jr. It's hard to know for sure. We talked with Rich Beerus, the People's Pondit, and I think the general assessment was, Trump will suffer from this, but RFK will likely split more Democrats. I think that's what they're looking at. And so it may end up with a situation where you have Biden slightly below Trump and Trump winning a state like Maine with 43% or something.

Starting point is 01:55:53 Doesn't just show how far left the Democrats have gone. You're talking about the nephew of JFK, the Democratic, greatest of all time, right? The son of Bobby Kennedy, murdered, right? Now, 48% of Republicans identify with him. What's the number 14% of Democrats? He is no longer even beloved, the Kennedys are no longer beloved in the sacred Democratic party.

Starting point is 01:56:21 He has now on the Republican side. That's crazy. I'll just say, it goes to cult. Because the Democrat, whatever their favorability is, is marching lockstep. RFK Jr. was like moderate. He's on gun control issues, right? A lot of Trump supporters are coming on being like,

Starting point is 01:56:36 have you looked at him? He's a liberal. Well, of course, he's a liberal. But he's anti-establishment. So now you like him. That's what it really is. The Democrats are a cult in my opinion. Well, the dead called it blue and on. Yeah. You know, they say, there's a big tent party. That's what it really is. The Democrats are a cult in my opinion. And that's what you call them, blue and on?

Starting point is 01:56:45 Yeah. So, you know, they say, there's a big tent party. It's a big tent party. Yeah, as long as you just kind of get in line. And this is why the Republicans are so divisive. So they say, is because people have different opinions, and all right, we're gonna argue Matt Gates,

Starting point is 01:56:57 are McCarthy, where's the Democratic party? All right, Bernie, Elizabeth Warren. All right, everyone get here. I'm behind by now. Well, that's just how it works. There's this weird phenomenon now that I've stayed true to what I thought used to make me a liberal and a lefty, which was freedom of speech. My body, my choice, bodily autonomy, anti-authoritarianism and anti-war.

Starting point is 01:57:15 And now all those things have been turned in. They call you a right-winger for that. If you're anti-war, you're a right-winger, you're a Putin puppet, you're in, but it's the craziest thing. So it's, but there's been this shift in the party. So now when you say that the Democrats have gone farther left, I say they didn't. They've gone actually further authoritarian and establishment. And there's nothing left or liberal about the Democratic Party anymore.

Starting point is 01:57:35 They're corporatists and they've tricked people into thinking that you're actually a liberal or a lefty if you vote for those corporatists. Jimmy, would you break that down? The four things you said that made you a classic liberal and how counterintuitive it is today? Well, it seems to be said my body might choice, but that's not classic liberalism. Okay. Jim, you're talking about traditional liberalism. Okay.

Starting point is 01:57:56 But, yeah, continue. I'll jump in after. So, yeah, I just always thought what made me a lefty was that I was anti-war, I was anti-authoritarianism, I was for freedom of speech, absolute cross the board, and bodily autonomy, my body, my choice. That's all out the window. The Democrats have all flipped on all those things. They're for censorship, they're super pro-war, they're against your body, your body, your

Starting point is 01:58:18 own choice. It's the your body, my choice. Well, especially on COVID. I mean, that's what I'm talking about. That's the only thing that they think, well, I've talked to people about the vaccine mandates and I go, what about my body and my choice? And literally they will say, well, that only goes for abortion. It's like what? They go, yeah, because abortion isn't contagious. Yeah, but I think your stupidity is because you know what is contagious to COVID-19 virus? You know what doesn't stop

Starting point is 01:58:42 it from being contagious? That vaccine you want to mandate, because you've been propagandized to think so. And, but people are with that, it's another thing, you know, you brought it up earlier, I wanted to piggyback on it, is that at some point, people stop taking the boosters, right? So at some point, they stop listening to stars or Fauci and CNN and MSNBC and Fox,

Starting point is 01:59:01 and they stop listening to the garbage from the FDA and the CDC. So at some point, they realize, hey, I think they're lying. Well, people, they don't tell you that the two heads of the, in the FDA, the head of the vaccine department, the two heads that were there for 30 years quit over the booster. So it wasn't okay for them. But if I say something, I'm called a Trump or a right-winger, a white supremacist, if I go along with the same people who had the vaccine department, FDA, when they resigned.

Starting point is 01:59:26 So anyway, that's a long answer to your question, but those are the things. So now everything's flipped and now the only anti-war voices are coming from the Republicans. They're for freedom of speech. They're for bodily autonomy. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. So yeah, I've stayed consistent and because I've stayed consistent and the Democrats have become authoritarian maniacs, pro-censorship, pro-war, then if I'm against that, you're now a right-winger. It's nuts.

Starting point is 01:59:52 So the, so, uh, classical liberal, typically refers to the founding fathers. It's a more libertarian view. It's considered to be center-right libertarianism and then traditional liberal. They're very, very, very similar, but that's considered the center left liberal. 20 years ago, when I'm growing up, my family are all what would be described as social or traditional liberals, meaning we were upset about racism.

Starting point is 02:00:12 We were upset about prejudice. We were upset about these social issues, and we had a very liberal perspective, but social liberals, which are, social and traditional liberals are Democrats than 20 years ago, believed, we can probably help solve some of these problems if we address them properly

Starting point is 02:00:26 But now you end up with the culture war today because what do we end up seeing? They're advocating for racial segregation We're seeing these the libraries in Seattle where it's like D. It's like What is it P.O.C.? D.I. meeting? Non-POC meetings in Dearborn, Michigan. They did these digital cafes where there was one for white people, one not for white people. And I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry, dude, I call that reactionary, right? They try to call us reactionaries in right wing. Reactionaries are reference to those who tried to maintain the status quo in the French

Starting point is 02:00:57 revolution. So if my family, literally my parents, my mom, grows up before loving V. Virginia when interracial marriage was illegal and before civil rights and they had to lie about the relationship of my grandfather and my grandmother because if people found out it was actually a felony and they defleased several states, then the law changes. Loving V. Virginia comes down as a ruling, hey guess what, you can be of any race in Maryview once. Kind of crazy to think that was illegal.

Starting point is 02:01:23 It's called miscegenation. And then what happens? You get someone like Derek Brown, the critical race there is to argue that school segregation, plus EV Ferguson, all this stuff, he wants the segregation. He wanted it. And that's the modern cultural left. So that is a huge component for me.

Starting point is 02:01:37 I'm like, I actually thought it was a good thing that for one of the first times in the history of humanity, we were like, it doesn't matter what your race is. And now they're trying to rewind that clock. It's interesting, you're saying this, and Rob, you pulled this up, I wanna read this to you, diversity numbers among delegates,

Starting point is 02:01:50 trigger alarm at DNC meeting. This is a political story, October 3rd. DNC officials express concern about failing, falling short of diversity goals in big states like New York in California with Donnelly's on noting, whether it's African American community. Black community, the LGBTQ community, Hispanic community, numbers continue to decrease.

Starting point is 02:02:10 The DNC uses a complex formula based on eligible voters from seven targeted groups to calculate. Diversity goes in California. The proposed number of black delegates is 12% roughly double the percentage of African Americans in the state. And the DNC is still in the process

Starting point is 02:02:26 of approving delegate proposal plans for all 50 states and the district of Columbia, how diverse the convention delegation will be remains uncertain and increase competition from Republican Party for Latino voters at complexity to the DNC efforts. So this is diversity of skin color. This is not diversity of thought.

Starting point is 02:02:45 And so they want to have all the black, brown, Hispanic and all the different ethnicities and sexual genders, but we all want you to think exactly the same. And that's what the Democrats are actually bragging about that we're all in lockstep. So it doesn't matter that they have diversity in ethnicity or diversity and skin or say they all have, they have uniformity ethnicity or diversity and skin or say they all have they have uniformity and thought and that's what's going on. And it is a blue one on calls and you can you're not allowed to question at all or you're immediately shunned and called a right wing or which is what I've been called since I debunked Russia

Starting point is 02:03:16 gate. I was the first one to debunk it on the left. I had Bill Binion told me for a factor is no way Russia hacked into the DNC server. And I knew it was a hoax ever since then. And so, and Seth Rich, now they don't even want to let the Seth Rich, the FBI first they lied and said they didn't have Seth Rich's computer. Then they said, we did, but we can't access it. Then it said, of course, we got it. We access it, but we're not going to share it with you for

Starting point is 02:03:37 65 years. So I guess I forgot how I got started on this, but that's the end of it. By the way, this is this is the reason why Newsym cannot be a candidate for 2024, as much as the left is dying for him to be it, he cannot be because the only way Newsym could be to a presidential candidate, we've talked about him potentially being

Starting point is 02:03:56 the most formidable one for sure, but the only route he can have for 2024 is for Biden to have health issues and a Commado to step aside and it's gonna be a white man. Yeah, take over African-American woman and Romance will come and say the organization that says you're so diverse. Look what's happening with you Well, let me tell you about the diversity thing I I I grew up in a family where mixed mixed race family

Starting point is 02:04:20 uh second generation so my grandparents on my mom's side, Korean woman, white dude, illegal crime. And I grew up hearing these stories from my mom about who people would insult her and call her names and spit on her and things like that. I was like, wow, that's crazy. And then I see all this wonderful stuff from the Democrats about unity and no more racism. And I was like, we really did it guys.

Starting point is 02:04:38 I'm a little as little kid with glistening eyes. I'm like, it's so cool that I got a friend who's Filipino. I got a friend who's from Poland. I got a friend who's black. I got a friend who's Hispanic., I got a friend who's black, I got a friend who's Hispanic, man, we're like that McDonald's commercial for kids where it's all these different people. And I thought that was normal to me on the South side of Chicago where everything was very diverse.

Starting point is 02:04:53 And then when I go to Occupy Wall Street, Occupy Wall Street literally created racial caucuses. They voted on how to spend money based on your race. So they had the black caucus and the Latino caucus and the Asian caucus. And then they had the working groups. And if you were working sanitation, meaning you would clean the place,

Starting point is 02:05:09 your vote could be overridden by a group of people just based on their race. And then I said, what the, I was like, are you kidding me? I was like, I went through stories, the horror stories from my family about racial segregation. And now y'all are doing it. That freaked me out.

Starting point is 02:05:24 And this starts my own the path where, I'm that occupied Wall Street. I'm a relatively lefty guy. I've been my whole life listening to anarchist punk rock, lefty communist garbage. And good songs still, by the way, but some of their messaging I wake up to when I'm gonna go older.

Starting point is 02:05:38 And I'm watching these people racially segregate. Now I can't speak for every single person who is in the black community or the Latino community, the Asian community because we're all different. My experience in life, I can't speak for every single person who, who, who, who, who, who is in the black community or the Latino community, the Asian community because we're all different. My, my experience in life, I totally recognize those arguments from the left about the difference the experiences we all have. You know, a, a black trans woman is gonna have a different experience for me, a mixed race Asian guy, a group of South Side Chicago. But I'll tell you this, when, when I have these people, tell me, outright, I got a guy come on my show, smacks the microphone. A white man comes on my show and tells me I don't actually understand oppression because

Starting point is 02:06:11 I look too white anyway. I don't care that he can say those things to me about the racial issue. I care that he's a hypocrite. And when I say to him, your logic dictates you submit to my worldview because I'm the mixed race person who's been oppressed by you white man, they can't handle it. Their logic is simply white people are the oppressors

Starting point is 02:06:32 and we're the majority, so you do what we tell you to do. And I'm not interested in that. I'm more interested in people who are like, there's a Yale study that came out several years ago that showed that white liberals talk down to black people and white conservatives do not. And I'm like, I think that exemplifies this quite a great deal.

Starting point is 02:06:48 Let me ask you this. So when you were at Occupy Wall Street and you saw them siloing off into their little ethnic groups, right, when I see that now, I see that as coming from infiltrators and that's exactly how the establishment wants them to organize because if they organized all together, they would be formidable and they could oppose the establishment. But if they silo us off into LGBTQ and trans and then to black and Hispanic and Puerto

Starting point is 02:07:12 Rican and everything, then we don't come together and we keep fighting. That's all that DEI stuff. It comes from black rock. It comes to the top down. It doesn't come from the bottom up, which is what I was trying to impress upon to Cornell West when he was on my show. You're repeating the establishment talking points when you keep talking about white supremacy and LGBTQ and trans.

Starting point is 02:07:31 They want you to keep talking about that. They don't want you to organize long class lines. So don't you think that's, that's all right. Go ahead. You're right. The first, when I, the first week in New Zealand, I could buy Wall Street. There was a 60 year old couple with an American flag behind them. They consider themselves constitutionalists.

Starting point is 02:07:46 They weren't leftists, they weren't communists, they weren't DEI none of that. They were libertarians. I met Lucried Kowski if we are changed. He's a free market in our cocapless kind of guy. He was down there too, because the message originally was the corporations, the big banks and the government teamed up and screwed the American people over. And then there's that famous meme comic where you've got a bunch of people, there's this fancy-looking room, a guy at his desk,

Starting point is 02:08:08 and outside the window is a bunch of people protesting and angry holding up signs saying, we're at the 99% and the smug guy at the desk says, introduce identity politics. Yeah. Yeah, so and I actually experienced the manipulation, I don't know how you find this one, you gotta find like the comic of the guy

Starting point is 02:08:25 at his desk, introduced identity politics, but there was a civil war at Occupy Wall Street, the East and West factions, there was the general union in the general assembly. When everyone talks about Occupy, they only ever tell you about the general assembly, there it is on the left. The general assembly was the official narrative, the media supported and got behind. And on the other side of the park, which would have been, I believe, the west side of the park was a general zoom in a little bit. It was the general union. These were actual activists, people who are typically leftists who are trying to find a way

Starting point is 02:08:56 to organize. And here's the funny thing. Their organizing structure was based on the family. And these hippie lefty guys, sleeping in a park told me the family is the most important political unit, which is really funny because you hear this from Trump supporters. And this is like a, this is a leftist guy in all black punk rock. And he said, here's how we want to organize. We all have tents. Each tent is a family. Our representative of our family will come and speak to the general union about how we distribute goods. When they

Starting point is 02:09:21 tried holding a meeting and raise raising funds, facilitators, they called themselves showed up and took their meeting over in the most cultish and psychotic way. And each time one of these activists would try and make a statement, the facilitators would go, Mike, check, Mike, check, Mike, check. And the whole crowd would start chanting, Mike, check and just stop talking. Go to these activists. I'm in San Bernardino, Trump supporters, and I walk up with my camera and I was like,

Starting point is 02:09:49 hey, you guys are protesting, would anyone mind dancing? And Mike, check, Mike, check, Mike, check. And I say, and I stand there and wait, they stop. And then I'm like, do you guys want to answer? And the no man goes, Mike, check. They all yell, repeating, do not, do not, talk to, talk to anyone. And I'm like, it's a cult.

Starting point is 02:10:05 And it's been, it's been all infiltrated and overtaken. And that's exactly that. I'm telling you, all this hate your neighbor stuff, it's all coming from the top down. It's not coming from the bottom up. And I think people are starting to wake. You know, when I bought a boogey-lube boy on my show, because the boogey-lube boy gave a speech about how he was with somebody

Starting point is 02:10:26 from what's that Antifa and he was with some LGBTQ and they all came together and said, you're not my enemy, we're all brothers. And I was like, this is amazing. I never even heard of a Boogelloo boy until that. So I bring the guy on my show. He taught, we agree on like six out of 10 issues and their anti-war, their anti-cop, they're all this stuff. And I was like, wow, this is really amazing. There's nothing like I was told. And so I'd never got an onslaught of hate.

Starting point is 02:10:53 And I got smear articles written about me in New York, New York, New York and everything. And it was because that's the only thing that scares them. And so when I started to figure that out, that's when I realized what the real game is. And I'm not going to hate my neighbor because we're politically different because they don't have there. Yeah, Jimmy do her boogey blue boyard and view sparks outrage among quick.

Starting point is 02:11:15 You're a sucker. Oh, but but you were not Jimmy. You were correct. Thank you. There's a video of a boogey blue boy shaking hands with Antifa. Yeah. And they were trying to create this division narrative in the press and claim boogey-luboi shaking hands with Antifa. Yeah. And they were trying to create this division narrative in the press and claim boogey-luboi's were actually white supremacists.

Starting point is 02:11:28 And that's the exact opposite. Even the ADL said that the boogey-luboi's were not racist, but they, they, they, the media conflated proud boys with boogey-luboi's. Boogey-luboi's were response to the proud boys. They wouldn't allow you to be racist and stuff like that. And then when they started censoring people off social media, no longer could the boo-go-boo boys police their own kind because now you can't see what those people are saying.

Starting point is 02:11:50 If they said something racist in public, they could see it. Now it went underground, and that's what they wanted. And that's a great way to infiltrate and again separate and keep everybody separated and hating each other. But also, as per the proud boys, the media's lied completely about them as well. You don't have to like the guys. I mean, they're the proud boys, the media's lied completely about them as well. You don't have to like the guys.

Starting point is 02:12:06 I mean, they're showing up to protests and whatever you think about them. But I was in, I think it was Portland, and there was a planned march by a bunch of right-wing group. I think it was Patriot Prayer and the proud boys showed up. I am, the proud boys plan was, we're going to march to the city, that's all we're going to do. But they know, Antifa is going to show up and act a. And the general idea is, well, we're allowed to protest, they're not allowed to act a fool.

Starting point is 02:12:27 We're gonna do our thing. There was a black proud boy, and I think that's on my YouTube channel, I think I filmed it. And as they're marching on the street, the Antifa guy started yelling the N word over and over and over again at him, swearing at him and calling him a variety of racial slurs. And then this dude, he was a veteran, he was a black man.

Starting point is 02:12:48 He just gets super angry and he starts to walk towards the street to cross the street to the other side. And a white proud boy walks in front of him and grabs him and says, don't listen to a man, don't let him divide us. He's like, you're my brother. And he grabs his hand, he's like, you're my brother, man, don't listen to them. And I was like, what the, I was like,

Starting point is 02:13:04 the white and black prod boy doing the fifth grab saying their brothers, while the antifa guy is yelling the N word, what the? You have this video? I'm pretty sure I've seen it too. You might have been a live stream and it would be on, it's, it's, it, it,

Starting point is 02:13:15 what a moment. And, and, but also understand, there was also a moment where these antifa activists were screaming the N word at ICE agents in I think Seattle as well. So, don't you think that half of the antifa is infiltrated FBI people? anti-factivists were screaming the N word at ICE agents in, I think Seattle as well. So don't you think that half of the antifa is infiltrated FBI people? Yeah, or just like you see those guys dressed up in the khakis and the masks.

Starting point is 02:13:33 Yeah, those guys are all fed. All of them. So, so if I do have the video of it, it's going to be a live stream from youtube.com slash Timcast that I don't think we can find in 10 minutes. Because these are like three hour four hour long streams. But you know what this is all reminiscent of what you're basically describing? You ever seen the movie Braveheart? No, I didn't.

Starting point is 02:13:53 You've never seen Braveheart? You guys multiple times. Okay, gotcha. So there's a scene. And this is essentially what you guys are describing. That the Scottish nobles, the Scottish lords are sitting on top of a hill watching what they think is about to be a battle between Mel Gibson William Wallace's crew and

Starting point is 02:14:09 the other Tribe that they're about to fight against and they're walking to get against each other They're about to meet in the middle of the battlefield and they're looking on with such just like amazement like our two basic biggest thorns in our Side are about to go to battle and they meet and they come right together and front of each other and they think about to go to battle. And they meet and they come right together and in front of each other and they think about to be a battle and they go, ah, they slap hands like this.

Starting point is 02:14:31 And you realize holy shit. And in that moment, the Scottish nobles and the lords and the king, they knew they were fucked. Now this is essentially the metaphor for the establishment. Once you have MAGA and BLM and you have the proud boys and Antifa Once you have MAGA and BLM, and you have the proud boys and Antifa or you have a black son, whites, or Christians and mobulans, Muslims, all sort of agreeing to be like,

Starting point is 02:14:51 yeah, I'm not so sure about this, and they look towards the king, and the king realizes he has no clothes on. That's where you'll see significant change. I don't think anybody has to agree or high five at all. I think all that has to happen is, you're gonna have a group of conservatives, you're gonna have a group of booge all that has to happen is you're gonna have a group of conservatives, you're gonna have a group of boogey-looboys,

Starting point is 02:15:07 you're gonna have a group of BLM, whatever these groups are, and they're gonna have their areas. There's gonna be a neighborhood of a bunch of houses, and everyone's there is gonna be like the police aren't helping us, crime is getting out of control, the writers are not political, they're opportunists,

Starting point is 02:15:20 they're gonna form a neighborhood watch group. Then a few blocks away or whatever, there's a different group with a different ideology. They don't need to be like each other. It's that one dude's gonna be like, hey, I'm gonna go, I know those guys are forming a group. Let's go talk to him and see what's up. And then two guys are gonna walk up, and it's gonna be like,

Starting point is 02:15:34 look, you believe a lot of weird lefty stuff that I don't care for, but I got no beef with you. I just wanna make sure my kids are safe. The other guy's gonna say, you believe a bunch of weird right wing stuff I don't agree with either, but I agree. I want my kids to be safe. So we won't fight with you guys.

Starting point is 02:15:45 If you need help, let us know. We're going to do our thing. You do yours. That's where I think the king gets scared. Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's the only thing that scares them. And that's why they keep doing this.

Starting point is 02:15:55 All these culture wars to keep us distracted. And I think, you know, the, believe me, the establishment would be okay with any of those Republican candidates at that debate being president, including Descenda, they love it. And any of the Democrats being, they just don't want anybody like Trump or RFK. They don't want anybody that's actually outside the system or who's going to challenge this. Or Vivek, don't forget about him.

Starting point is 02:16:17 They don't not want him. Really? What do you think about Vivek? I don't know much about Vivek, but I think they'd be okay with Vivek. Well, I think there's a reason that they could turn in. Basically attack them in the second debate. He clearly won that first debate. We were at that second debate that knives were out across the board for this guy.

Starting point is 02:16:34 Yeah, I don't think they'd like him. VEK came on my show and when he broke down what brought him into the culture war, my view of VEK is he's a very, very smart guy. He knows how to control systems and machines. He's playing the political game very, very well, but deep within him is a lust for revenge. You guys know his story of how he got into this? He has his big farmer company, biotech.

Starting point is 02:17:00 He makes it worth billions of dollars, whatever, putting his net worth in your half a billion dollars. He's probably thinking himself, I got the dream, I did it. I, you know, from Ohio, immigrant family, and he conquered, he rose above. And then one day, he gets a message where they're like, hey, you know, George Floyd died.

Starting point is 02:17:15 You got to put up the black square on your profile and it's like, what are you talking about? Oh, yeah. It's like, you got to put up the black square, he's like, okay, fine. Then they come back to him and they say, now you got issue a message in support of George Floyd. And he said, sure, I guess. And then he writes a letter saying like, okay, fine. Then they come back to him and they say, now you got issue a message in support of George Floyd. And he said, sure, I guess.

Starting point is 02:17:26 And then he writes a letter saying like, hey, this disunity is so harmful. And I'm so, it's so unfortunate. I hope this country can learn to heal and come together. Then they come to him again, activists are hitting up his company. And they said, your message wasn't good enough. And then he breaks and he says, eff off. He's like, I'm done with this.

Starting point is 02:17:43 What's going on? Then they start attacking his board members. And he starts, F off. He's like, I'm done with this, what's going on? Then they start attacking his board members and he starts getting resignations. That I think triggers him and then he writes the book, he woke in, he creates this venture capital to oppose BlackRock. I feel like he thought he did it. He did what he was supposed to do, he became successful

Starting point is 02:18:01 and then the D-EEEI stuff comes in, and they're trying to use it to destroy them. They're telling them to bend the knee to them. As if his success didn't matter. And then people are resigning. He sees the black rock stuff, the ESG, and he creates a fun to counter it. Now I'm looking at him, and his personality's different

Starting point is 02:18:18 when he's on stage, when he's doing politics. He's talking very different, and very, yeah, because he wants to win. I think his attitude is more so a calculating, I hate what these people tried to do to me and I'm going to win now. Okay, I hope so. Let me go. Let me go.

Starting point is 02:18:35 Let me go. At least, the amount of words that Junior says is that we have to check. You don't have to like him. I'm going to be honest. I told this to Vivek. He's not going to win. You know what I mean? But the reason he's not going to win. You can't be sure. I'm, come on. I told this to Vivek, he's not gonna win. You know what I mean? But what's the reason he's not gonna win? You can't be Trump, come on.

Starting point is 02:18:46 Vivek, I think Vivek is fantastic. I think people talk about whether someone is doing something for the right reasons or the wrong reasons, and I'm like, I can't read someone's mind. I can only look at Vivek has started a fund to counter BlackRock and Vanguard and all those things, right? He wants to actually provide funding to companies that oppose that, that's good.

Starting point is 02:19:05 You know, got to trust the guy, he did a thing I liked. People like Donald Trump's only doing this because he's got an ego and he's a narcissist, and I'm like, oh, okay, he's exposing our, our real fields in Syria because of his ego. I'll take it, it's better than the liars who are running the garbage system for their benefit and then lying to us about it.

Starting point is 02:19:21 So you don't have to trust him, you don't have to like him, maybe he's in it for himself, maybe he wants to be famous, maybe he's brand building. I'll take the good thing that the good thing is. I got three stories before you wrap up. Here's one of them. Adidas CEO, Kanye West did a mean anti-Semitic remarks. This is a Reuters story. Adidas CEO Bjorn Golden defended Kanye West stating, I don't think he meant that he said, and I don't think he's a bad person regarding his anti-Semitic remarks that led to determination of their easy collaboration. Golden acknowledged that he has made statements that weren't that good and praised him as one of the most creative people in the world, both in music and what I will call street culture.

Starting point is 02:19:56 Ditas maintained this decision to end the partnership with the spokesperson confirming, of affirming, ending the partnership was appropriate. You think there's gonna be a comeback of you coming to Adidas? What do you think when you hear this story? I think the whole thing was a setup. I think it was planned. I think Ye is a genius and based on my interview with him, the way he was talking to us before the show

Starting point is 02:20:20 is nothing like his public persona. He was calm, rational, completely lucid, having a real conversation. He was acting like this. He was calm, rational, completely lucid, having a real conversation. He was acting like this. He was like, what do you think about if I were to do X, Y, and Z, right? What's going on with Mike Pence? How do they feel about him?

Starting point is 02:20:32 That's how he was talking. Yeah. Camera turns on. Y'all man, I'm telling you, you got these guys in these banks, and I was like, what the? Just happened. And then he had a private jet waiting for him

Starting point is 02:20:40 after the show ended. And I don't know about you guys, but I don't know how you book a private jet in a couple hours. Oh wow. That's right. Oh wow. If you guys, but I don't know how you book a private jet in a couple hours. Oh wow. That's right. Oh wow.

Starting point is 02:20:48 Because if you guys fly private jets, you know you got a chart of these things in advance. They got to get ground crews when the ground crews notified. Oh, it's a heavy. I stopped. That's a real heavy. So it's Coast Southwest.

Starting point is 02:20:59 Yeah, I get, but you can buy the pre-board. So stressed out. You know, now I got to be honest, it's flying commercial as a nightmare. They united, took me off of my first class ticket and rebooked me without telling me at four in the morning onto a seat all the way in the back, economy minus, whatever it's called, that thing where you're not allowed to have a carry on.

Starting point is 02:21:20 And I was like, bro, I paid $1,000 for this flight because we had to, you know, we're going to this trip and I was coming home and then they were like, bro, I paid $1,000 for this flight because we had to, we had to, you know, we're going to this trip and I was coming home. And then they were like, too bad, take the flight or stay. And I'm like, what am I supposed to do? But anyway. So yeah, so you were saying Tim about, so he's on the, I'm curious to where the setup is, because if he's on camera, off camera speaking one certain way,

Starting point is 02:21:38 also on camera's on like almost some, and K-Oltra, every newspaper. Yeah, and then, and then I get the point that you're making like, and patentals patentals is trying to get a freaking, it's a system that's gonna get people's names, they got a pre-bored, paycheck, you know all that stuff. So you're saying like, set up in what sense? So Shane Cashman, one of our writers,

Starting point is 02:21:57 is a huge A-fan, and he talks, he wrote this article about how Ye has these periods where he shocks the world in an offensive way, and then leaves for a little bit and then has a major comeback. It's like a PR strategy or something that effect. He comes out and he says all these things. He agrees to come on our show. Before the show, while we're talking,

Starting point is 02:22:15 totally lucid and calm, he says, I have no reason to be on a show like this. And I said, you're completely right. I was like, why are you here? Like, you don't get more famous. You want to come on my show, I appreciate it. And he's like, well, these guys told me I should do it. But he's like, what I'm really interested in

Starting point is 02:22:27 is you telling me how I become president. And I said, ballot harvesting. He's like ballot harvesting. I'm like, I said, you ought to know how the Democrats won. They don't win by convincing people. They win by getting more votes. And you get more votes if you're ballot harvesting. He goes, ballot harvesting.

Starting point is 02:22:40 He writes it down. He goes, I got what I needed. Shovel. Not kidding. Sho starts. And all of a sudden, he goes from I got what I needed. Shoes, not kidding. Shoes starts and all of a sudden, he goes from this calm lucid guy to leave. To, yo man, I'm gonna get a PJ, if you keep talking like that.

Starting point is 02:22:50 And then he gets up and he walks out. And I'm like, is he smiling? He goes downstairs, he thanks everybody, shake hands. He tells my writer, you wanna come with me back to LA and work with them some stuff? Plain was waiting for him. I called our charter company and I said,

Starting point is 02:23:04 did you give him a plane, like what happened? And they were like, no, no, no, no. And I'm like, Frederick Municipal has a private jet. I think it's like a Gulf Stream or something waiting for ya. And I, he can leave. I'm not mad about that, but how did he get a PJ in an hour? And she, and my broker, the charter lady, she's like, that's not possible.

Starting point is 02:23:22 Wow. So the plane, yes. And then people like, why would you do that? Because he got the front page of every newspaper by walking out on the show. I see that. If he doesn't interview on like, okay, Tim Castaire also big show, I get it. We typically have like some of the highest live numbers.

Starting point is 02:23:36 I think we're the biggest live show consistently every night on YouTube. But we're no big. I don't beat you. You're sure I'm, I don't beat you. You don't beat us? I'm kidding. I don't know. I'm kidding. But like, we don't beat you. You don't beat us? I'm kidding. I don't know.

Starting point is 02:23:45 I'm kidding. But like, we're not the biggest show in the world or anything like that. You know, in terms of podcasts, we do well. So people are like, why would he go on your show? And I'm like, doing an interview with me gets him nothing. He does the interview, there are some clips, people roll their eyes.

Starting point is 02:23:59 Storming off the interview is hot press for all the tablets. Big time. And but like bell that was your important question is what colors your PJ Jimmy his pajamas are his private Everybody's want to like put PJ why was he his PJ and that didn't he did he just trademarked yeah yesterday trademark 25 names for use

Starting point is 02:24:21 Y E W S Kanye did that which is sounds like Ye and Jews. I don't know why he's did you see that? Oh there it is. It trade marks use But I want to give some context to because I'm you guys have fun on private jets, right? Yeah, well Jimmy I have multiple times I have but people need to understand is It's it's not as it people assume you have to have a multimillion dollar jet. It's not. Some private jets only cost a couple hundred grand. No joke.

Starting point is 02:24:48 If you look up on these websites, you can find a lot of the jets that they charter and they fly are from 1980 and they're like $200,000 to buy. I'm not saying people have 200 grand, but it's not $10 million like you see these CEOs on Gulf Streams. Chartering a private jet can be $6,000, $8,000. If you've got eight or eight to 12 people and you're trying to fly last minute for work, it could actually be cheaper than flying commercial

Starting point is 02:25:12 if you're working in a corporation. What kind of plane is this? Is this the kind of plane that's crashed? Can I air? Six to eight thousand dollars. Turbo props? You should look in a turbo prop. I guess you want to go.

Starting point is 02:25:21 No, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, Tim, back to your master plan from Kanye. Okay, that was his master plan for your show. Well, I don't, I don't even want to go. No, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're. Tim, Tim back to your master plan from Kanye. Okay, that was his master plan for your show. Well, I don't, I don't, I mean, it's all speculation, but it seems pretty accurate. I just, from your opinion, because you, he did this on your show, but it was part of a bigger master plan.

Starting point is 02:25:35 What's his overall master plan to get in the headlines? All right, because the one can argue, all right, I'm gonna run up on stage and I'm gonna tell Taylor Swift that it should have been beyond to say, all right, cool, you know, Mike I also doesn't care about black. Yeah Mike my Georgia. Okay awesome. Hey, I'm gonna marry Kim K I'm gonna get all the I'm gonna all the women in the world are gonna my next album. Okay, amazing All right, I'm gonna team up with Jay Jay's

Starting point is 02:25:57 Throne now I'm gonna Kim K wasn't a stunt. He loved that woman obviously, but there was Going ball there then all right. I'm gonna go see Donald Trump with Jim Brown. I'm going to do all that. Walk me through. Let me go full pro Hitler anti-Jew deathcon three. Walk me through the marketing strategy for that. You, I mean, I can only speculate, but he's a billionaire. He's done. Any more. Yeah, but what does speculate, but he's a billionaire. He's done. Not anymore.

Starting point is 02:26:26 Yeah, but what does it really mean to be a billionaire? Like, if you're talking about paper value and like shoe deals are worth a couple of million dollars, the dude wants for nothing. I, you look at some of these people, they get to that point where they're bored. I had a buddy of mine became a millionaire at 16. I didn't meet him when we were 16.

Starting point is 02:26:40 I met him when we were in our late 20s. And he told me that for most people, at least that he knows, especially a tax actor, they have an existential crisis once they get to that level of money. Sick for him, he's like this young guy. He comes up with his idea, they start building this thing. And then all of a sudden, he's got millions of dollars and he's sitting there staring at the wall like, what do I do? All my friends are at work, I'm not.

Starting point is 02:27:03 I don't have to do anything. Now I sold out, my friends are at work. I'm not. I don't have to do anything. Now I sold out. There's no company anymore. I don't need anything. And it was like a switch flip where they had an existential crisis. And he says a bunch of my friends experienced this. So you look at someone like, yeah, and I'm like, he's bored. He's bored and it's funny.

Starting point is 02:27:16 And there's nothing you can do about it because it's more powerful than you. It makes him laugh. He wants to see what'll happen. He wants to challenge preconceived notions. He wants to break people out of what he perceives as the matrix. He made a point that a lot of people praised when he said that he loved Hitler. And people were shocked by it.

Starting point is 02:27:32 And I think the point he was trying to make was, as a Christian, he loves everyone, even the most evil people he wants salvation for them. But he also knows that by saying something so shocking, you would freak out and he's trying to prove that point that you don't love people. And I'm like, I can understand why nobody likes Hitler, dude, are you crazy? But he's trying to make a point. I could only speculate he wants to shock you.

Starting point is 02:27:52 It's punk rock. I mean, I'm not saying it's a good thing, but what was it, Sid Vicious, War of Swastika? It's like, why did he do that? Jimmy, why are you spying it? You got this big spying? Jimmy Dose was going, he's like, listen, I've been a billionaire since I was there anything you haven't seen about the James right now

Starting point is 02:28:07 Well, I remember when this happened My friend called me goes hey, did you hear the Jews cancel Kanye and I was like did they catch him shipping arms and Nazis? Then they said no, he just said some stuff and I'm like oh, that's bad too. Yeah The Jews cancel Kanye or did the Jews cancel Conair? Did he actually cancel himself? Because it sounds like this was, he's uncanceled. But yeah, he's got, he's back.

Starting point is 02:28:31 Yeah, but and some, you made a point earlier, like if he got cancer for saying those words, the Canadian parliament had an actual Nazi on the goddamn floor. They should have canceled the Canadian, shut down Canada. Are you freaking kidding me? And I get it, words hurt, but for that moment, to go down and what they do,

Starting point is 02:28:52 they just fire the speaker of the house, just steps down. You had a Nazi that actually killed Jews. That is absurd. A Hitler Nazi. A Hitler Nazi, not a regular. Not a Nazi. Yeah, the original, the OG.

Starting point is 02:29:04 Not a OG. Yeah, old school. Not the old school last story here before we were Could you imagine being that Nazi he's getting a standing Oh my god waving everybody's like what's this is the best if I love No, but I don't know what he's thinking if you only know what I did Oh my god. Oh my god. What's the story? Yeah, so let's wrap this up with Putin. So Putin, a story comes out about next generation nuclear weapon. He says Russia's mission is to create a new world. And then this speech comes out. If you got the clip, Rob, to just play the clip, here's what he says on this

Starting point is 02:29:41 video. Go ahead and play. There's probably a question hanging in the air about what happened to the company's management and so on. But we know about the plane crash, the head of the Investigative Committee reported to me just the other day that fragments of hand grenades were found in the bodies of those killed in the crash. There was no external impact on the airplane. This is an established fact.

Starting point is 02:30:07 The result of the examination conducted by the investigative committee of the Russian Federation. But the investigation is not completed. Yes, unfortunately, the presence of alcohol or drugs in the blood of the dead. The examination was not conducted. Although we know that after the famous events in the company in St. Petersburg, the FSB found not only 10 billion in cash, but also 5 kilograms of cocaine. But I repeat once again, in my opinion, such an examination should have been carried out. This is a video I sent you. Is this a video I sent you?

Starting point is 02:30:47 Ah, this, ah, I'm sorry, that might be the problem. I was just saying to you, what is your plan? Your progression. You stopped with a progression. I was going to say the cocaine, that means it's CIA. I was like, progression, so that means he basically was saying is there was a grenade on the plane, but Pooin's like, yeah, but there was cocaine too.

Starting point is 02:31:01 Like, who gives the damn? No, no, no, I don't have a video. I thought that's the video I wanted him to play. I wanted him to play? Нет, нет, нет. Я не знаю, что это. Я не знаю, что это я не хочу, я хочу вам играть. Я хочу вам играть в этот видео. О, хорошо. Плой этот видео, Ра. Что сегодняшний день ответ является абсолютно неприемлемым

Starting point is 02:31:15 для любого потенциального агрессора. Потому что с момента обнаружения старта Ракет, откуда бы это не исходило из любого точки мирового океана, либо с какой-то не было территории, в ответ на встречном ударе в воздухе появляется такое количество столько сотен, сотен, сотен наших Ракет, что шансов на выживание ни одного противника не остается. Причем сразу на ней Сингалэннами.

Starting point is 02:31:45 А что за чен? Это что, Вайло? Он не остался. Сингл-эннами. Ты думаешь, что это? Я вообще думаю, что это очень сильный способ. Он начинает using nuclear weapons over Ukraine. В этом не значит ясильный.

Starting point is 02:31:58 Это could be nuclear artillery. Это could be lower yield, 100 kiloton bombs. Но на бадлфе, Путн Putin has already stated the use of depleted uranium rounds coming from the UK, constitutes the use of nuclear weapons, and thus their actions are warranted. If it came to the point where Putin was losing, and I think if you look at the battle map, he secured the region he wanted to secure, if you really wanted Poland, oh yeah, he'd start using nuclear artillery. And then

Starting point is 02:32:25 no one. There was actually a Polish MPI said there will not be mutually sure destruction because no one in their right mind would sacrifice New York over a, I forgot what city he said, a small town in Poland, right? That if Putin actually did new, a NATO country, there's not going to be nuclear war. The West will not retaliate. And if that is true and coming from a NATO nation, i mean you can pull up the quote it's probably it's more specific i forgot what polish city they said i do not see a scenario in which the west fires nuclear weapons at russia if russia uses nuclear weapons

Starting point is 02:32:56 in eastern europe well i just think that the world's terrorists is the united states military and nato and if you look around the globe, there's over 800 military bases for the United States and NATO and they're building more and more. We've surrounded China and Russia, and the aggressors is obviously NATO in the United States. And we're the only country that's ever been proven to use nuclear weapons. And the people who run our military industrial complex,

Starting point is 02:33:23 our bloodthirsty maniacs, who have killed millions of people over the last two decades and displaced millions and millions more for economic lust. And that's what this is, that's what you create more is about. That's what China is about. That's what Siri was about, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan. It's all about an upward transfer of wealth from the tax base to the military industrial complex and the international security state and then of course fossil fuel companies.

Starting point is 02:33:48 That's what this is about. That's why we're selling more liquid-fight natural gas right now. That's why we blew up that pipeline. That's what this is all about and that's what Russia just doesn't want Ukraine to be put into NATO. That's the only demand. And they said, go pound sand, we're not going to give you that because we want you to invade Ukraine. We want this war. This is how we make money. And this is how all empires

Starting point is 02:34:08 end, by the way, and this is how we're ending. We're starving our own people at home while we do these military adventures over overseas. And we're not stopping. And this is what all Matt Gaetz is about it. It was about we got to stop this and you see what's happening. He's going to be, I bet there's's gonna be criminal charges against them. Don't you think they're gonna? Of course, of course. This is why men keep thinking about the Roman Empire. Yup.

Starting point is 02:34:31 You've seen that takeoff from him. I took off from him. Yeah, but it's funny because these women are all like, why are men thinking about the Roman Empire? It's like because we are witnessing, we are witnessing it, you know? Yeah, and it's funny to hold that. None of this happened.

Starting point is 02:34:43 Like, this was supposed to be happening on the Trump. That's exactly. And so they said that Trump, he used to go out, he was alienating all our friends and the people don't respect us. The exact opposite happened. Biden comes into power. And now there are all these other countries joining together, coalescing in economic power centers, like bricks to oppose the United States. That was not there before. And we're pushing China and Russia together, which is the last thing we were supposed to want. They don't care. And we've always were afraid of Germany coming, journeying with their, with their engineering and their capital coming together with Russia's manpower and their natural resources. And we've been worried about that for decades. And that's what was happening with the Pornosary

Starting point is 02:35:22 pipeline. And that's what this is all about. And you know, when Trump got elected in 2016, that wasn't just happening in America. That was also Brexit happened. People were starting to revolt against the establishment. And that's why they got to do this national security state. They got to put everybody under surveillance and take away your freedom of speech and they got to divide everybody because it's not just in the United States. People around the world are waking up and getting sick of the establishment. So, I hope, hopefully there will be a worldwide revolution to happen soon. Well, for what it's worth, this was an insane podcast. Love talking about a bunch of different things.

Starting point is 02:35:54 Appreciate you guys for coming out. Both of you. Here's what we learned. We learned today, okay. That Tim Poole's favorite vault flavor is black cherry. It's good. Yeah. It is. Okay, although you did try the cucumber mint yesterday and, you know, I don't like cucumber or mint. It's still good. Yeah, me too. But he also like the pop out. That's coming soon. Matt Gates yesterday is like, I had four of these already.

Starting point is 02:36:16 I feel like, yeah, Matt, I'd like you for them himself. And unlike your brain. Yeah, so by the way, indirectly, go order a case of vault and try it for yourself. Unleash the inner genius Rob, let's put the links on Amazon. Do that. It's on Amazon. You can get the different flavors on Amazon. Aside from that, Jimmy, do you have anything that's going on right now? You want the audience to be doing. I'm going to be doing a show tonight in Boca Raton at the black box theater. Sick. Yeah. Tomorrow night I'll be at the improv in Orlando. Next week, I'll be at the house of Blues in Houston and another place in Dallas. So go to Jimmy Dore.com and click on

Starting point is 02:36:49 tour and we'll see you at a live show. Fantastic. Tim, anything on your end? Well, we just wrapped our big show last night. Great show. Other than that, we're going to go home. I really appreciate you coming down, but people can just check out our work at Timcast.com. Timcast. IRL Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. on YouTube. And for some of you guys that want to get a discounted private jet, you can email them as well. PJ, it's a PJ. It's a kind of PJ. And Packard, can I say my last one too?

Starting point is 02:37:11 Because Tampa, Improv, October 18th, Jimmy was just there. You were just there at the Tampa Improv. It was amazing, right? It's a great club, the guy who runs it, I love it. And I'll be there October 18th, go to Vincent O'Shaugh on my Instagram, the ticker link is in my bio. Fantastic, gang. Have a great weekend everybody.

Starting point is 02:37:25 Take care. Bye, bye, bye, bye.

PBD Podcast - Reaction to Israel War | Tim Pool and Jimmy Dore | PBD Podcast | Ep. 312

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