PBD Podcast - Reaction To LGBTQ Book For Children | Ep. 247 | Part 1

Episode Date: March 15, 2023

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David and Home Team will discuss: LGBTQ book for children  Trump calling out Ron DeSantis  Whether Silicon Valley bank should be bailed out  FaceTime or Ask Patrick any questions on https://minnect.com/ Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

I know this life meant for me. Yeah, why would you plan on Goliath when we got that David value came in giving values contagious world on entrepreneurs we can't no value that hate it. I don't run home. You look what I've become. I'm the I'm the one. All right, home team episode number 247. A lot of things has happened the last 24 hours,

even the last 12 hours. A lot of new things, formulating to give an update on what's going on with the market, the economy. Goldman says, SAC says they're no longer expecting the feds to hike rates in March. That's a CNBC story.

Bloomberg came out with another story saying, feds battle plan for inflation shredded by financial turmoil. Jeffrey Gunglack was been on the item and before we Daniel De Martino Booth says fed will hike funds next week to save credibility. We'll have to. Interesting.

Muscus building a tiny village for his workers. South Korean government proposes increase in work week to 69 hours from 52 hours. I'm sure California lost their mind. Remote work is killing a floor as a retirement paradise. That is an insider story. I have a video of President Trump saying a few words about Ron DeSantis and Florida, which I found interesting.

Ron DeSantis posed with a handmade snowflake. It had the word fascist written all over it again, insider story. A bunch of different things, but first things first, Tom, last 24 hours, with all this Silicon Valley bank debacle that everybody's talking about.

What's new, what's been building up, what are you seeing? Well, good morning. I think everybody heard there was a soft landing because the federal government has this facility in place to protect the depositors. What was really interesting is the stories came out that showed what unfolded behind the scenes. And apparently, you know, you talked about it yesterday, you know, Jamie Diamond, who's

a banker and a tough entrepreneur and you look underneath the covers. His folks were rumored to have been working all nighters on Thursday to Friday, Friday to Saturday. And Bloomberg's story this morning came out bright and early with European markets. Apparently, JP Morgan got a couple billion dollars of new deposits as a result of this, reaching out saying, Hey, you need a bank, JP Morton's here to help you. And it's 3 a.m. Europe, we're up. We got you covered. And so that happened. And then the big four banks apparently circled around like sharks Sharks on a feeding frequency, were picking up scraps.

It was said that both city and B of A were in there, but not nearly at the level that JP Morgan was. And then the other thing that came out this morning, now that the Fed has a little breathing room, remember they were trying to get the sale done by Sunday, so that before the European markets opened, they could say, everything's cool, we got the SVB was sold to somebody. That was the plan.

Now they get a little breathing space, and apparently BlackRock and Apollo have both walked into the buffet table and said, you know what? I'd like the loan book. So I think it works out better for everybody if a bank buys SVB, but you've got big private equity firms coming up there now saying, hey, you know what, we're interested in the loan book. And what this points out, PBD, is this is we hope means we don't have to use any of the federal money that Janet Ellen was talking about. And what works out is that the bank is sold and the depositors are made hold on those

sales so that it, I think that's the best for the economy and is that the bank is sold and that a positive is made hold on those sales so that it, I think that's the best for the economy and best for the bank. Let me ask, that's what's been happening. So let me ask a question here, Tom. So if a lot of the conversation is what do we learn from 2008, right? To not do the same or to do better, right?

So if right now a 2008 were to happen, would the feds have bailed out AIG? Now, the numbers now are so big. I think they would have had to at the end of the day or been forced to, but I don't know after printing 1.4 trillion and seeing what that did to the economy and the inflation of assets, I think it would have been hard.

I think it would have been much harder, but a lot of political pressure would have been on it. We got to do this, and tarp seven would have had to been implemented. But I think it would have been a really tough call because especially with what all this money we just printed and the inflation we caused. So if they would have taken the same approach

as they're taking with Silicon Valley bank in 08, that's what I want to know. What do you think would happen? So, the AIG is going out of business. We're not going to bail them out. You know, yesterday I put the four economic, you know, yeah, I love that by the way, the freedom to buy, the freedom to sell,

freedom to try, freedom to fail. Yeah, and I posted that a guy came up who knew, I sold a lot of AIG. We were the number one I UL writer at the AIG for many years. And he says, would you have said the same thing if AIG was, you know, in the situation? Would you have bailed that AIG? I said, no, the previous CEO made bad decisions, forcing the former CEO of MetLife to come out of retirement who are only three years left to live to drive the company

Bob Ben Moshe's leadership is what saved AIG, but this is the part about capitalism and today Would they have a left AIG to go? Belly up and had other people come and acquire this business stable out by this business I'll buy that business. I'll buy the PNC business I'll buy your however many planes that AIG had. You think that would have happened today? I think that's probably the way you would have had to do it today. And we have to remember, there's a key difference between OA

and what happened yesterday. Yesterday, who got protected, the depositors. And they openly said, the shareholders and most of the bondholders are screwed. When I say most of the bondholders, the most senior bondholders, there may be some assets to give them. But the bottom senior bondholders, there may be some assets to give them. But the bottom level bondholders and all the shareholders, you are wiped out.

Back then, remember, Lehman and Bear went down, but the rest of the banks were saved. Last time they saved the banks, this time they've saved the depositors. Last time they saved the auto industry the companies and only Alan Malale went in front of congress and said we'll take alone but we don't want a grant ford will be fine remember it was the companies that were saved last time the positives received that's good so we're learning we're learning what not to do and by the way I think that's positive that that's the the comment about the fact that taxpayers are not going to pay this that's bullshit

I mean they're we're still paying that. There's no question about that. Can you, while you're getting the video prepared, Adam, you have some thoughts. Go ahead, but go to my Twitter account with the video. Go ahead. Yeah, I was just going to bring up the Lehman Brothers and the Bear Stearns example, because when I entered the financial industry was 06. I got into the life insurance life settlement game, and I knew nothing about nothing. I was a nightlife guy6. I got into the life insurance life settlement game and I knew nothing about nothing. I was a nightlife guy and I got into this new career but we were doing business with Lehman Brothers

and Bear Stearns at that time. And I had a buddy that worked for Lehman. And it was so interesting how the conversations were going where it's like we're working on these deals and putting together a life settlement, phone and all that and all of a sudden he's like, yep, I think we're gonna be holding off for a while. Yep, I don't know if I have a job anymore.

Yep, I just got fired, yep, my bank closed. And to see, we talked about picking winners and losers, and the whole concept, and this is what I wanted to kind of revisit what you said. And I love the fact that you kind of just simplify what capitalism stands for, the freedom to buy, to sell, to try, to fail. And I think it's incumbent to understand

the failure part is part of the process. And the whole, you know how they say in the government, we don't want the government picking winners and losers. And you know, Chamoth came out, right, during COVID, and this was after after the stock buybacks that were happening all that, and in 19 and all that, after that whole situation, he goes, let them fail, let the airlines fail.

So there needs to be ramifications for poor decisions. So how do they distinguish, like how do they distinguish to let AIG to allow them to stay, but layman and bear stones like, who's picking these situations? At the end of the day, this whole too big to fail concept, it's sort of the antithesis of what capitalism is, right? Like if you screw up, you make poor decisions, like if an individual does this and

they spend all their money, they max out credit card debt, they go on vacation when they should be all their money, they max out credit card debt, they go on vacation when they should be just saving money and they lose their job and they fail, then it's kind of expected. But when companies do that, why should they receive these bailouts? Pat, and I'm honestly, I'm not setting up a question here, I'm trying to remember and I don't remember. But remember the CIFI test, SIFI, and we had some life insurance

carriers that didn't want that designation because it came with the ball out of government kind of being in your knickers. Remember that? And I think I'm trying to remember, was it the gentleman we know at AIG who has since retired, who said that when you get named strategically, was it strategically important financial institutions, SIFI, that soon as you were named that, yeah, systematically important financial institution, that it was actually a bad thing because now the government was on your back, you have to have double reserves there. Hey, your loan balance is a tenth of your point to high. And suddenly it's like, wait a minute, I'm not being reckless, I'm not even running my business,

I got this overlord pushing me. But can I ask you a question on that? The overlord concept. So the whole concept of regulation, over regulation, under regulation, you know, Trump came out and said, you know, these medium sized local banks, regional banks, they're gonna bump them up to what?

50 million to 250 million? It was a 50 billion. 50 billion, 50 billion, up to 250 billion. To kind of let the regulation, less regulation do what it do. Where does this kind of fall into the SIFI thing? So is that, we read the line.

Yeah, that's what I was saying. The US Federal regulators determine would pose a serious risk to the economy if it were to collapse. So this is the SIFI thing. So who's determining? Yeah, those. So why don't you type in SIFI list?

Type in SIFI list. SIFI list. Yeah, there you go, 2022. Okay, there you go. So Aliens, AIG. A-Gon, A-Gon, or was that list? Go back. You go, there's got to be an easy way to go. Let's just read some of those right there. Aliens, AIG,

A-Gon, two added, I'm not a fact, three added, three with them business, but Aviva, you've done business. You've done business all of them. All of them. Yeah, true. All of them. So massive carriers, not even necessarily financial institutions, right? Yep, but if you think about it, how often do you hear a life insurance company's going

out of business? You don't. You hear banks going out of business. Why is that? Because the bank's dollar to reserve ratio, you know, whatever they lend out isn't as high as the life insurance, life insurance companies, like at one point, do you remember you and I flew out to our monk with our old French friend Amour?

And we went to right across the street from IBM and we had a meeting with Credit with Swissry, right? Yep. And we're just gonna bring up the reinsurance to which we're Swissry. Exactly. This small humble building, what you're working on, any artwork. You walking. There's like multi million dollar art in the lobby. Please tell me

this was the trip that Tom and Amor room together. No, that was way before. But no, no, I had recovered. Yeah. So, so, so we had a friend who liked to walk around, uh, neck it. And I, I tried to make the intro of Tom and him, I said, listen, I think you guys got to come up and get closer and see sweets and they did. And the next I said, how was it? He says, well, listen, I had no clue the scale like so, how come now you guys know each other.

Anyways, but when we went there, if you remember this conversation, we wanted to start an insurance company. And you know, we wanted to see, is it better for us to go out there and compete with a career and what that responsibility was, how much of the risk that we have to take, et cetera, et cetera, versus just selling it. Instead of, you know, running an insurance company. Let me tell you, it is practically impossible to start your insurance company today with a hundred percent of, you know,

the dollar amount, the savings you need to have, it's the liability, the responsibility of it was massive. So I understand what they're doing from the insurance side. I actually like it because this is why you don't see that many insurance companies going out of business. But you know, you're talking about all this stuff with FDIC, can you pull up the tweet,

the video I just posted, this is the president of Minneapolis Bank, Federal Reserve, listen to what he says to 60 minutes. This is March of 2020. Think about the time March of 2020, COVID is just getting started. Look what he says. He's about to have the COVID. Yes, spike that. Watch this. To the person who is about to grab their car keys and go to the ATM and take out $3,000 you say what? You don't need to. Your ATM is safe, your banks are safe, there's enough cash in the financial system and there is an infinite amount of cash at the Federal Reserve. We will do whatever we need to do to make sure that

there's enough cash in the banking system. Okay, Infinite. Yeah. So that's exactly the problem. The problem is infinite. How? Where does that money come from? So you know, you know how sometimes people, you know, when you look at OJ Simpson, and what do people say? You remember when OJ was, whatever the year was,

93, 94, now I don't remember you, but something like that, right? The year with the trial? With the trial, yeah. Could have been 92. It was, yeah, 93, I wanna say 94. So what was the thought, oh, well, you know what, he's not gonna go to jail, you know he's not gonna

because celebrities never get, they get away with everything, what happened? This guy's walking around and 99% of people, and I don't even wanna say 99% majority people he talked to, there's a survey, did he he kill the answer is what yes and he's free the one question he doesn't like to answer you know what the question is when people ask him that they try to be sarcastic with them did you find the killer you say you were gonna walk around and we gotta find that guy guys how do you feel about he's still out there yeah we

gotta find and you'll see the first thing he does is he moves his eyes he doesn't look in this is like I really don't want to talk about that yeah Yeah, because you're in the room. Right? Okay. And last, Sasha Baron Cohen is interviewing him. Then again, real long. So, so the frustration with that, the frustration with celebrities getting away with things that they do is the same frustration with companies that get away with anything. Because then there is no discipline

and repercussion. It's necessary to have repercussion and a price for making bad mistakes. There is nothing wrong with it. I failed a lot. Here's a part. You know, what's the unique thing about failing? Very simple. A philosopher many years ago said this.

It sucks. Okay. There is no way to put it. It sucks, it's embarrassing, it could lead to divorce, it could lead to mental, anguish, emotional, heartache, it can go through, it's challenging times, you're gonna go through it. Nothing about it is going to feel good.

Trust me, think about it this way. What happens in boxing when two people fight and one gets knocked out publicly humiliated in front of tens of millions of people think about the text messages think about how many Exas celebrate that loss think about how many friends from high school or like man I'm so glad he got his ass whoop that felt great think about how it felt for a wilder to lose to Tyson fury Three times back to back to back and he was called the bomber like think about how it felt for a wilder to lose to Tyson Fury three times back to back to back. And he was called the bomber like think about how it felt when Tyson lost to, you know, Buster Douglas.

Nobody thought that was going to happen. Every one of everybody is going to go through it. There's enough. When Foreman lost to Ali, he went into depression for a couple of years. He didn't even want to show his face because nobody believed the fact that he lost to Ali. That was not supposed to happen. It's supposed to hurt and it also hurts in business. There was a period in my career where I went through really tough times emotionally running a company. Here's a thing about the seasons like that. It's not supposed to feel good. You're going to be lonely.. You're gonna try to like last night, a weird night last night.

I slept on the floor last night. One of our kids wasn't doing too well. He was throwing up all night. It just wasn't a good situation. I'm on one hour's sleep today. You know who cares? Nobody. Trust me, nobody cares.

Nobody cares. I still have to come and do my job today. No one cares. No one on the audience cares. Not saying that you're not do my job today. No one cares. No one on the audience cares. Not saying that you're not sympathetic, but it's not your problem, it's my problem. Okay, I still have to come and do this. I got to zoom right after this and I got a bunch.

Today's a long day for me. I got a lot of stuff that's going on here today. No one cares. It's days like this that you got to show up even though nothing is going your way. So to fact that the Silicon Valley, the shareholders are paying a price for it, it hurts, but it happens in business.

The fact that some of the bondholders are not getting the money back, it hurts, but that's part of business. Can I say one thing about the failure part? I think you're absolutely right. I think failure is a part of life. And I would argue that I think any one of us would say that sometimes failure is the best thing

that can possibly happen to you because it sort of makes you who you are. So whether it's been sports for me, I remember being a great athlete and then getting moved up to varsity and then been put on the bench. Oh shit I got improved when I did stand up comedy. I was always a funny dude. I got boot off stage talk about like

Tomatoes to the face. It's like oh my god. I actually have to get better at this Relationships we've all had relationships that we failed at but you learn from these situations I used to do cold calls for a living for years and Getting hung up on and hung up on and hung up on. But that's what makes you stronger. And you bring up the George Foreman situation. It's funny to see the end of that narrative.

It's like he ended up becoming a multi-multimillionaire with a form and grill because he got back in the ring and he started kicking some ass again. And I think that's what everyone needs to understand is that failure is going to come with the territory. If you want to be great at anything, you're gonna fail. But what's the old saying, you know, fall 10 times, get up 11, and that's what it comes down to. Yeah, look, I got two videos on.

Can you retire, or you can get up? Yeah, I got a couple videos I wanna show you. And I got a book here I wanna show you, which I saw this I ordered. It's my assistant came and saying, someone's playing a prank on you, and they sent you this book. I said, no, I bought this book.

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Families personal information has been compromised start your 14 day trial at aura.com forward slash pbd once again aura.com forward slash pbd the link will be below for you to go to. Okay, this book the other day, you know, I like books for kids and there's a lot of different kinds of books. And then this book pops up and I said this has to be a joke. No, it's a real book. What's the title of the book? This is a title of the book. If you can zoom into the game. If you can zoom in, by the way, Rob, you're laughing. And you know, part of it could be funny. The website is called QueerBooks.com. Okay. And this is a real book. So I bought it. I'm like, okay, let me take a look at this, the gay BCs. Let's go through it together. the gay BCs. Let's go through it together.

A, B, oh sorry about that. Well, let's take a look. So here's a, A is for, is that ally, a friend who is there to stand up for you with strength, loving care. I like that. B is for buy. You can shout it out loud.

I like boys and girls and that makes me proud. What ages is this for? Does it say it to getting for the book? What mean what ages is this? Like you're not reading this at 18 years old. This is a kids book. This has gotta be. The author is ML web, who is this?

I actually wanna go through this to see. On Amazon, it says the grade level is preschool through third grade. Yeah, this is exactly where I was going to. The don't say gay build. Specifically see. See. Third grade and under under do not talk about

See basically congressman base see is for coming out you're ready to share what you feel deep inside. It's okay to be scared D is for drag You can strut and by the way, this is not a joke. This is a book You can strut and dance in clothes that you have. Dresses, heels, and pants. E is for equality. We're on the same team. We all have the right to love, hope, and dream. F is for family related or found. They'll stick to by your side. Ups and down. Good. G is for gay. It's a word that implies that you're a girl who likes girls or a guy who likes guys, H's for hope, dream up a life you love, skies the limit.

And by the way, intersex is I, J's for joy, keys for Kiki, Ellis for lesbian, M's for mountain, NS for non-binary, O's for orientation, P's for pan, Q is for obviously queer, RS for respect, S is for Sache, Sache, Sache, Sache, Sache, T is for, Shout out to RuPaul there.

T is for trans, it's a brave step to take to live as the gender. You know, U is for unique, V is for Vogue, W is for wonder, X is for, you can write it down when you have M or Frans, it's pro now, U is for you, why is for you as the assessed? Yeah, that's a book. Okay, the Gaby Cs. Okay.

So should they have the right to sell this book? The answer is what? Of course. Of course you should have the right to sell this book. Price of free speech is free speech. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with selling. This came out in 2019. This is before the series ends.

Culture Wars really, we're highlighted. But now here's the part, when they say, nobody is grooming, that's the part when you see stuff like this as a parent. This stuff is getting into schools, this stuff is getting into kids reading this. What is a five-year-old think about when they read something like this?

The eight-year-old, a 10-year-old. If you, like, if I were to tell you right now, as a kid, what phrase do you remember your mother or your father telling you that you believed till today? Positive. What phrase? What did your mom or dad tell you that till today you remember? My mom would always tell me you can be anything you want to be

just as long as you give it your best. Okay, Tom. My parents are big on honesty. Okay. Always tell me the truth, even if you've done something, tell me the truth. How many times did they say that to you? How many times did they say it? It was constant. It was constant. My brother and I were only about less than two years apart. We would get into mischief. Things would happen. I remember six, seven years old, we'd break something, and so it was always, or somebody gets hurt, somebody's crying, and it's like, tell us the truth. Tell me the truth.

And I remember the punishment was always slightly moderated if you told the truth. If they had to dig it out of us, or one of us was lying, it was always the punishment was a little heavy I could build. For what, no, for what you did, or for, and for the lie. It was like a punishment was a little heavy on the belt for what no for what you did or for And for the lie. It was like a compounding effect But if we told the truth, but that was always what my parents say just tell me the truth

What was it? What was it that was over and over again for you Rob? What was it for you over and over like you heard over and over again I don't even know why to this day But it just sticks in my head my dad used to say no matter where you go there you are I have no idea what that means. I if you're lost you're somewhere That's a quote from Buckaroo bonsai. Yeah, that was Austin powers Hey, there you are. Do I know you know, but there you are go Adam how much is my mom? I mean again, you know, it's told me they're trying us But my mom is like the most loving caring person should always say

um Mom is like the most loving, caring person. She would always say, I don't care who it is, it could be the CEO of the janitor, you have to treat them the same. Like you have to treat people the same way. You have to do this, you have to treat people right. Treat people right. Treat people that you wanna be treated. The golden rule, treat people right, treat people right. And that served me well.

So here's a question for you. I wanna flip it on you. You ready? Some of y'all already know where I'm going with this. What if Adam, your mom said, Adam, if your gay is okay? What if your mom said, Adam, if you like boys, it's okay. What if you actually, how much you think about Adam,

if your gay, just tell me. Yeah, well. What if she told you that a thousand times over and over and over again? Now, you may say, I would still be straight because I love women, right? But let me tell you something, that's a thousand times that thought is in your head

as a six year old, eight year old, 10 year old. Okay, if your mom and dad told you, Tom, if you like boys, you can tell me son, like can you imagine even that phrase? Like preemptively, before you even said anything. Even the kid given a sign, like they're saying anything. Like, here's a question, what is the advantage of a kid reading this book?

What is the advantage of kid reading this book? That's what I want to know. What is the advantage? If somebody is in a climate like this of where we are today, you think people feel uncomfortable being gay today versus what it was 30 years ago? No. So this is the part where you get a Bill Maard

that comes out saying, why are you trying to, you know, increase? So there's a video, I'm gonna send it to you, a rap, if you can share this, where a child exposes his mom, okay? It's a very, I don't know if you guys have seen this video or not, where there are parents now, where they're proud to have this and talk about the sense, say,

look, my kids are gay. It's a bragging right. The Asian father says, you know, my son said, did we play this clip before or now I want to show this to you as well. Rob, if you can see this clip, I just sent you. Look how the the kid is like and a mom gets a little bit upset. Just look at this reaction. I think this is the same video. Yeah, let's see if this is the one or not. Watch this. People that aren't like serial killers like Ted but does your mom say you have to be LGBT? No, I didn't. She's what I want to be but something but God that's fine. Keep talking. Say what you're saying. My mom doesn't matter if I am gay or lesbian or any of that. She doesn't care.

All she cares about is that I'm a part of it. If I'm not a part of it, she'll try to convince me to join it. Because I... What? Are you sorry right now? Facts. That I would convince you to join it, because I... What? Are you sorry about that? The fact that I would convince you to join what? That was a bit too IA plus committee. That's crazy. He said the mom's reaction.

A kid is not gonna say something like that, just because he thinks about that. Even a kid is sitting there saying, dude, my mom just wants to be part of this organization, right? There's a problem here. There's this parent, I don't know if you've seen this one. Let me, let me see this one if I can find. You have to see this one. It's, it's, I'll find a clip to show to you.

But you see a book like this, you see what happens. It gives credibility to parents. Tom, what are your thoughts when you see something like this? Like the price of free speech is free speech. That's my first thought. And my second thought is, each organization, each group, is going to publish books that it wants to read. And LGBTQ, they're going to publish books that they want

to read and books for their kids. And that's the long and short of it. I feel, you know, like that. Does it make you feel uncomfortable? I'm curious. It does, you see. Even right now, no, but even right. It's getting the video to kind of expose the feeling.

His mom is telling him one thing, but he's feeling a different thing. And there's some conflict in that kid. But just thinking about even giving your thoughts on it, do you feel uncomfortable? Well, yeah, because nowadays, I am the unprotected enemy, a white male, Canadian descent though may I be. If I say anything too much, I will catch the most heat.

So I never moderate or lie about my positions, but I'm very careful about expressing them. I'll just say one thing, you know, A, you know, to use the alphabet analogy, there's nothing wrong with being gay. And before we go down this rabbit hole of like, these guys are anti-gay, it's, if that's who you are as an adult, God bless you. We have gay friends lesbian friends all good like Very vocal a got in South Beach. I know all they're all out there the Roberts decision says you can marry do what you got to do But I think the resounding effort From from at least our narrative is like leave the god damn kids alone with this kind of stuff

Specifically the fact that Rob pointed out that this book is aimed at third grade and under. So what is that? Eight years and under. So what are you talking five, six, seven, eight year olds? Why is sex and gender and identity and all this even a thing at this age? Now, we can have the argument or a conversation of when you start teaching these kind of things. Is it middle schools, is it high school, is it, do the kids talk amongst themselves, should it be a class, should it be book, should it be the free market? But I think we're all in agreement

that kindergartners should not be figuring it out if they're by or not. That's not a thing that they should be developing at that age. Like, for instance, when I was in kindergarten, I wanted to be a dinosaur, okay? So if someone was like, it's okay to be a tyranosaurus rex, that's who you are on the inside. It's like, okay, at what point does it go to,

all right, I want to be Peter Pan, I want to be a cowboy in Indian, I want to be an athlete, I want to be a princess. When does reality and fantasy kind of take over, especially when you're a kid, because you've wild imaginationsinations and I think it's just Just leave the kids alone Play this clip play this is the problem though. This is the problem right here play this clip

I Are here today because we have a trans trans child as for six years old at three She was not sleeping very well. She was waking up every single night. It was a lot more than just a toddler waking up. And one day I picked her up from daycare. All the teachers had said, Ash were told us that she's a she. And Ash for comes around the corner

and I said, hey, there's my beautiful daughter. What? A few sleepless nights. A random declaration. You can pause it. We can pause it. Matt does a great job talking about the stuff. Your son, did you hear, like this guy sounds like an educated guy. Three years old.

What are you talking about, bro? And he's getting the mic. The mic. He's getting, you know what, you know what is a form of giving the Mike to speak at an event? That is a recognition. If somebody gives you their audience, their Mike, that is a form of a recognition. I recognize you that you have a credible message to give,

come, give your message. We're giving the Mike to that message. That father can believe that. But if he's doing that because he wants to be invited to certain parties or he wants to be accepted by a certain community or he wants to be known as a sensible, you know, whatever, whatever. But then you're using your kid as a prop. Like, you know how the joke about uncles are like, hey, let me borrow your two-year-old kidman to go to the mall and say, you take the kid and okay, oh, you have such a beautiful, oh, thank you. Oh, so what's your name? Oh, my God. You said that

with puppies. Yeah, you do with cats, though. You do with cats. So, so, but you know, it's kind of like a prop that you use. You're using your kid as a prop for some like this. Give it a break. You know, who's trending right now on Twitter? Drew Barrymore. You know why she's trending right now on Twitter? Because of this TikTok guy, Dylan Movani. I don't know if you've seen what happened with this

Dylan Movani, where a bunch of people are posting this, you know, sharing how, you know, her story of trans and all this stuff. And then eventually drew Barrymore apparently get on gets on her knees. I don't know if you've seen this or not. That's the picture that's more viral. Right there. That's the knee picture. So she gets on her knees.

That's a guy. That's that guy in the dress. That it drew is definitely not a guy. But the guy that that's a guy. That is like, and why she underneath what's going on. It's like, man, thank you so much for being so brave and doing this. This is what we're highlighting.

This is what's being turned into heroes, okay? That is the problem. You know, and by the way, the same exact when I watched Tom being uncomfortable with this, you know what the average parent is thinking about right now. Here's what the average parent is thinking about right now? Here's what the average parent's thinking about right now. Tom and I were talking yesterday, we're talking about a couple of big deals that we're doing,

and we're in my room upstairs, and I'm getting Tom's counsel, like I always do. I'm always asking Tom, hey Tom, what do you think about this, Tom, what do you think about them? We're processing issues together. And one of the deals that we're going through, Tom says, I worry if we're going to be able to close that deal. I said, why is that?

And if it happens, you'll hear about it. It's very big. If it doesn't happen, you'll never hear about it. Maybe I'll write about it in a book five years from now, ten years from now, but you're not going to hear about it anytime soon. And he says, I worry if that deal is going to close. I said, tell me why he says, because of the opinions and the stuff we talk about, I worry if that community will accept the voice and what we talk about on the podcast. You know what that is? You know, that fear shouldn't exist. When you have kids like here's a part with me as a parent.

So I'll go to schools, okay. And I'll go to the school and I'll see some of the parents. And you'll talk to some of the parents or you'll see some of the teachers. And some of them will, fully, you'll know if they're with you. And they'll say, oh my God, hey, what's up, Patrick, how you doing? Oh my God, that's great. The last podcast is, I loved it. And then you'll also see some of them that are kind of like,

I know who you are, I can't stand what you stand for. Totally cool. But now watch this. As this gets bigger, what's gonna happen to their last name? It's not like their last name is Aguilar or Jones or Jackson where there's a billion, you know, Not a billion, but there's a lot of Aguilar as Jones and Jackson's out there, right? The last name is what? Bed David how many sauce things are there? How many else words have you met in your life? Okay, but the point I'm trying to make to is there that fear

Shouldn't be there. As a kid when I lived in Iran and people would ask me about my religion and my parents would say, don't say it. Never liked it. Like my parents are Christians. We're Christians. I never liked the fear where you can't talk about it because you're going to be judged. You know, yesterday I posted a job, wasn't we're hiring right now aggressive. We've got 18 job openings. And I posted a video. If you can go to the video, I posted yesterday, one of the guys comments and he says something. And we got hundreds of applications

being submitted last night. This guy says something. I hope the comment comes all the way at the top so I can read this comment because this is kind of where we need to go where, keep going, keep going, keep going, it's a video right there. Go to the comment, click on it, and let's go to the comment section. Go to the lower, go look, okay, right there. Fantastic, a right there. Go to the comment, click on it, and let's go to the comment section.

Go to the lower, go, okay, right there. Fantastic, it's there. Zoom in, it says Patrick. So I'm asking for somebody to be our managing director of our consulting firm, right? By David Consulting. And I said to be able to be the managing director by David Consulting,

this is a multi-multi-six figure job that's gonna pay very well to whoever it's going to be. Okay. What the potential of making seven figures within a three to five-year period, it's a high-paying job. This guy says, Patrick, I don't like your criteria. When you started PHP, you weren't an ex-McKenzie consultant,

but you still had the chops to do the job well, and you did it. There's talented folks out there who don't care about your prestige, you're overlooking by bias for MD, okay? This is not an easy job for an average guy after streets to come and do. And by the way, when I was starting PHP,

I was a 30 year old running a multi million dollar of your business in my 20s. I wasn't just a guy off the street. Look at my response when I said to him on the bottom. I said, my criteria's were never intended to be liked. It's not for everyone, all the best. Yeah. You know what I like as response? Fair, I respect it. Good luck with the search. I actually like it's the way he handled it as well. Yeah. I my goal with with this podcast and where we're going and what the climate is is for us to be

able to say this Dylan Mulvaney guy this is weird stuff what you climate is. It's for us to be able to say, this Dylan Mulvaney guy, this is weird stuff what you're doing. This is a weird book. It's weird. You can sell it, it's hapless and but it's weird. It's weird for parents to feel a little scared that God forbid if a parent says a position, a university that his daughter or someone's to go into

may say no because we found this clip of you Saying this that should not be the case That is the only part about this right now with parents were they're afraid to talk about How they feel about certain situations where you go into school in orientation the first person you hear in orientation is I am part of the LGBTQ community. I see myself as a They them or whatever and I'm just as a they, them, or whatever. And I'm just this, this, this, that. And at our school, we do this, this, this, this, that.

That's kind of weird to do that. If the population is a small population, and that's who you're trying to mark it to, but anyways, you know, you see some of this stuff happening, little awkward, little weird. I wanted to kind of share this book. When I saw it, I thought other people would probably relate to the concerns some parents are going through.

You know how they say back in the day when it comes to TV and media that you got to win the central time zone. You ever heard that before? Yes. It's not about the LAs of the world, the New York cities of the world, but like win the central time zone, win Iowa, right? Win Michigan, win Ohio, and that's where your audience is. And I feel like there's a metaphor here

to what's going on here. You know what should be mainstream in America and shouldn't be contentious or a bad thing to say is just normal traditional family values, father, mother, kids, happy families, that should be normal. And the problem to all the allies, to use the word A over there,

is that you're trying to basically make this type of stuff mainstream. And you can make that argument by why this shouldn't be mainstream, but also respect the fact that you can be who you want to be, but stop indoctrinating kids. And that's what I think essentially your biggest argument. I have, I bro, again, one day this stuff is going to come out that when I, I mean, it's going to come out

with some places I party that and what I did. I'm not sitting here telling you I walk on water, I'm not sitting here, if people party with me and they ask what was path like to party with, some of the stories you're not gonna believe to say, Pat really did that with, yes, I've had a lot of fun, you know, prior to choosing to change my life,

I did a lot of stuff in partying, in the military, in Tennessee, in Kentucky, in Vegas, all over the place, I had a lot of fun. I've always loved women and I've had a great time with it, but I've always gotten along with anybody straight gay, whatever, I had nicknames, the Greek God, because every time I told them I was Syrian, they said, you're Sicilian, I said, forget about it.

I am Sicilian. I am Greek. I can't explain to you what a Syrian is because it was so, oh, you're Syrian. No, a Syrian. That four minute of explanation with a Syrian is, I got tired of it. Well, you know what?

I am Sicilian. You're right. I got the nose, I got the ears, I got the look. I'm Sicilian. Let's just finalize. And we're in the bottom of the boot. So this is not about judgment. This is about leave the kids alone.

But let the kids figure out for themselves. I had no idea what I was going to do till many, many years later on in life while I had a brain to really think. And that didn't happen till many years later. This kid, if you would have judged me on what I'm gonna do my life in high school at a 1.8 GPA, I was a lost cause. But it took me a minute to figure myself out at 25.

But per person wants to do that later on in life, let them do it. Don't put these things in their mind early. You confuse the hell out of a kid when you do that. I got a couple clips I sent to you. Did you guys see what Trump said about the Santis and Florida yesterday? Okay, Rob, if you can play that clip, I want to get your reaction on this video here.

Go ahead. For those of you that didn't notice, Florida was doing great long before Ronda Sanctus got there. People are fleeing from New York to Florida and other places because of high taxes and out of control crime. It's really bad. Not because of the governor, thank you, Mr. President, for doing that. But it's not because of the governor.

Florida was doing fantastically. You had a governor named Rick Scott who did a very good job. Even Charlie Krista Democrat did a good job and he had very good numbers. Sunshine and ocean are very alluring. It's not too hard to work with those factors. So just remember Florida was doing really well long before Ron DeSanck just got there. Oh my god. Okay, I'm gonna go to you. I'm gonna go to you first time. It's, you know, at a time when we need leadership to rise up versus the leadership we have in Washington, I'm this, I've said it before, this is going to be a street fight.

And this is a guy that understands media, that understands his base. And this is going to be a street fight. And this is just the beginning. That's what I think. I've expected this. Adam, what are your thoughts? Yeah, Tom's right. This is expected.

Look, Trump is who Trump is. He's not changing at this point. There's still people out there that think, well, you know, this time around, it's gonna be different. And Trump, keep doing what you do. And don't change, keep with the nicknames, keep with the name calling. It worked for you in 2016.

It may work for you again in 2024. But watching that, I can only tell you what I felt. It is cringy and it is childish. Just the name calling. Now, as someone born and raised in Miami, I get it. The cat's out the back. Florida's amazing. But to say that Ron DeSantis had nothing to do

with how well Florida is doing currently and during COVID would be just disingenuous and inaccurate. DeSantis rose to the occasion and like him or not, he kept quote unquote, Florida free. And it's, it's one of those situations where yeah, Florida was doing just fine for years and, you know, no tax, no income tax stayed sunshine and weather. And but we do have issues here. We've had hurricanes, we have immigration issues. We've got all sorts of environmental issues that happen from time to time.

But it's one of those things where is what he did in 2016 going to work again in 2024 and I've been very clear, I don't think it's gonna work this time around. Yeah, so go ahead Tom. You can say Florida was doing well before, but to DeSantis Credit, he was a guy in the chair when there was some crisis.

And he managed him very, very well. And I set COVID aside on the political side. And I just take a look how we reacted to the hurricane on the Gulf Coast. And I think he did an amazing job. He pushed people hard. He got that bridge to the island rebuilt. I mean, there's a lot of things.

It was just pure leadership of the crisis team. And he deserves credit for that. Let me say just one more thing. You know, the whole Trump derangement syndrome, it's a real thing. I know people that, I mean, they would not vote for Trump. If I'm like, who would you vote for? Stalin or Trump?

They're like, oh, sign me up for Joseph Stalin. They're not going to pick him. And I swear I promise you on my life, I'm trying to give Trump a chance. Genuinely, because we all know that I haven't been a Trump fan. I'm genuinely, genuinely. Let me just keep an open mind.

Let me see if Trump can win win me over and I think the world has changed so dramatically pre-COVID to post-COVID and Tom's absolutely right. We're a desperate need of leadership of a grown-up in the White House and of a grown-up in the White House. And I've said that my number one goal in America right now is to get to a president who can get to a 60% approval rating. This race to somehow scrape out 50% is a race to nowhere. And if it's DeSantis, if it's Nikki Haley,

if it's Fricking Gavin Newsom, not a fan, whoever can get us there is who I'm leaning towards. And I think as of right now, if you look at the top five people in the polls right now, Trump, Biden's still up there, Rhonda Santas, I think Rhonda Santas gives America the best chance for some less divisiveness. So this is all I think.

I'm gonna come from a place of strategy. I'm not gonna come from any other place, but just a place of strategy. Joe Rogan said the other day, if he has to choose between Trump and Biden, it's Trump, it's not even a question. Okay, so that's out there, you can go watch the clip and people lost their minds when he was saying that.

He's not choosing Biden over Trump. Okay, that position has changed with him over the last several many years. Is that the one? Okay, yeah, has changed with him over the last half of many years. Is that the one? Okay, yeah, play that one so the audience can see it. Yeah, play that one. Just from the, there you go. Do you have the audio go for it?

Press play. And I go, I would vote for Trump for it, vote for Biden. Just because the thing with Biden, like, he's gone. Like, you know he's gone. It's you're gonna be relying on his cabinet. And I knew his cabinet would be this fucking side show of diversity, and which is exactly what it is. I mean, that one person who stole all the women's clothes, that Sam Brinton, we highlighted

it on the podcast. Yeah. I mean, okay. So, just real quick, no, that's someone who would vocally, loudly vote for Bernie Sanders in 2016. And he is, and I think he voted for Joe Jorgens in it. He did. He did.

Which is absurd. The goat, yes. But now he's back on the Trump trade, not on the train, but he's willing to go there. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, no, no, he's not on the Trump trade. No, like willing to, not on the trade, you know what I mean? He's willing to vote. But Biden is what he's saying, right?

Okay. Which is fun. But let me, let me go back to what Trump is saying. So okay, or I ever think about, I got my sales leaders, okay. And if you've ever been to one of our sales leadership meetings, it's our one, we have a meeting called the Directors and Up Meeting,

what President's Club, you have to find a way to get in there. If you're in there, it's a spectacle. Let me put it to you this way. Anytime we had our investors, or somebody that wanted to look at purchase in the company or we're talking about raising capital, that was a meaning they were not allowed to go into because if they went into that meaning, they're like, what the hell is going? You've been to one of those meetings before. You've been a couple of them.

It's amazing. They're insane. It's competitive. It's insanity. It's, it's, it's like it's WWE UFC minus any of the fights, but it's wrong. I wouldn't even say minus any of the fights, because they get pretty heated in there. I'm trying to keep it PG-3. It's WWE meets insurance. Anyway, you got people strutting down the aisle or real quick. I like the air coming through there. You, meat and shit. It's epic. Right. And someone who's been in the insurance industry for 17 years, it's my problem.

You ever seen anything like that before? Never in my life. It's epic. It's competitive. It's awesome. Now here's the thing. If, and I'll sit there and I'll watch the call outs, some calls you the other person out.

The person calls us person out. It's call, I call, I call, I call, I call, I call. And then I'll sit there and I say, yeah, that was not a good call out. Like, what angle did you take strategically? What did you just take with that angle? You went personal. Okay, that guy is going to destroy you, what would you just did?

Or this person, I'm like, that call out was weak. Your team, you looked weak in front of your team. The worst type of callouts are when you've seen weak in front of your team. The worst type of callouts are when you see weak in front of your team. For example, a callout is, you'll say, well, let me tell you something, you guys may be beaten us on the leader's bulletin, but at least we love each other and we're united.

You guys are not, you're not, that is a weak-ass callout, okay? Because you don't want to compete in your way of hiding it is what? Be mommy and your people that you're not, that is a weak ass callout, okay? Because you don't wanna compete in your way of hiding it is what? Be mommy and your people that you're working with, right? Here's another one. Unwinterable.

Yeah, when you do a callout and your team's like, oh my God, my leader's an asshole. Dude, what was that all about? You acted like an asshole, bro. Dude, you had an asshole moment. That's also not a good callout. A callout is to say, let me tell you, we fell because of me. I screwed up at the end of the day to meet as the leader, but I'm going to tell you,

I know what guys we got and I know our guys are killers, competitors. The next 90 days, good luck working, outworking us, outstrategy, good luck. We're going to compete like never before and we're going to have one of the best stories of redemption. We're going to beat you, and you're gonna have to eat your wards for what you just said, because our guy's gonna rise up. That's a callout where somebody's gonna say, I freaking, you know what?

Let's go kick those guys' ass, right? This is a bitter callout. You sound bitter. There's no strategy behind this to say Florida. All he has to do is to say 34,000 when you help me and I gave you shout out in the book that your two tweets and the endorsement helped me yes you're right but I took it from 34 to 1.5 million votes not you that's what I did right and nobody can dispute that. I won Miami date. Nobody can dispute that argument there.

Here's the other part. You know, with Trump and the Santas, if you read the art of war, Sunsou, and you read any of the war books, it's very, there's like five of them must read. You have to read, if you're a businessman, if you're a businesswoman, if you're somebody that's in a competitive environment,

you have to read these books. Because if you're not, they're reading it, if you're a business woman, if you're somebody that's in a competitive environment, you have to read these books, because if you're not, they're reading it, just so you know. And I learned this to hard, but I'm like, okay, no problem. We know for two years, I had the same audio book, playing in my car on repeat, the same exact book. Every single day for two years, people would get in my car, and my audio was that same,

like, this is all you listen as it this is all on listening. What was the book? It's it's a very good book and I read it over and over and over again two years straight in my car on repeat because I understood it was war and I saw what my enemy was doing I said I'm not gonna forget what you did for the rest of my life. This is no longer about money good luck See what you just gave birth to somebody gonna face for the rest of my life. This is no longer about money. Good luck. See what you just gave birth to somebody going to face for the rest of your life. It was officially personal. It was going to get fun. Let's go play ball. At first, it was just about dad retiring. At first, it was just about having dreams become a reality. You officially pissed me off. It's war now. Let's go play ball. And I'm

going to have so much fun doing it for 50 freaking years. That was my mindset when this I'm never forget this by the way fully committed to work to this one handful of guys that in the marketplace that were going up saying certain things. What the centrist is doing right right now the book art of war. You know if your enemy is screwing up get out of his way. And that's exactly what the census is doing. He's not even getting in Trump's way. It's like Let him keep saying stuff. Let him keep saying this stuff His own camp was gonna turn against him. His own camp's gonna turn against him Because what Trump forgot what Trump forgot to do is what helped him win as he talked policies He talked about make America great again. He talked about the wall. He talked about issues that resonated with people. He talked about that. You can easily say,

Florida's done a great job with endorsement because our policies that I would have used myself that you can say that. And the American people will say, I agree with that. The centers use a lot of Trump's policies. Let's just say, if the voter's gonna say, that's, but when you do something like this,

it's showing you're bitter, it's showing insecurity, it's showing you fear somebody that's below you, you're competing with, you gotta compete up. He's competing down. The Santas, as of right now, with the polls, is below you. He's not above you. So it's a different strategy on the way you compete when he was coming up as an underdog.

The way you compete as an underdog can never be the way you compete as a favorite. I don't know if that makes sense or not. You cannot take the same strategy as an underdog to compete as a favorite. That's not gonna work as a favorite. So, and right now, in what's the CPAC Polo was what? The C220.

The 20s, it's not even close. So, and some people say, who cares about CPAC? All I'm telling you is, there's a different strategy to compete as a underdog versus a favorite. I don't necessarily know if this is a effective strategy he's using. Again, we may be wrong.

I may be wrong, but I just don't think it's effective. Can I ask you one very specific question? Because to me, it wasn't the calling out the Florida thing, and that's all fair game. My specific thing is the name calling. We all remember 2016. It was a little, you know, Lil Marco Rubio or Slow Energy Jet or that was 2020 Sleepy Joe or Crooked Hillary or, you know, everyone had a little nickname. And it was funny, it was weird, it was quirky, all that and above, right? Wacky Bernie, all that.

The fact that he doesn't even call him Ron DeSantis, and it's just Ron DeSanta. Ron DeSanta, Ron DeSanta, meatball Ron. It's time for you, as a, I would classify you as just like a level-headed, normal, just good father, family man. Does the name calling do anything for you as it a turn off? You don't, like this is something you don't practice in real life.

How do you deal with it when the president is doing this? It does zero for me. And I have seen moments where I thought Trump played so beautifully. The debate with Hillary, Hillary was being very sarcastic and then made a comment and remember he turned his back on her. And actually she walked behind him. He didn't turn his back on her. He was not disrespectful.

But as she rotated the stage, he turned around and pointed at her and rather than call name, he said, because you'd be in jail. And basically pulled the rug right out from under her thing. And that was all that America was thinking. We were all at home going, there you go. You're gonna play the sarcasm game and you're gonna do that in a debate, Hillary. You just had an adult turn around

and kind of call you out on that. That I appreciate. Because in the public square, in politics, you have to be prepared to debate to set your tone and you need to have your your comeback But just sitting there sounding bitter and calling a name doesn't do anything for me It doesn't get me it doesn't pull me in your direction to what you what I knew you stood for yeah, listen You we can act very, what's the word, noble and say, oh my God, you know, did they've been calling this guy a Russian spy? They've called him a racist, a bigot, a misogynist.

Give me one label this guy hasn't gotten the last seven years. Think about every single day they've gone after this guy. So don't get it twisted. I don't like what he said about the comments on Florida and the fact that he didn't do anything when you go give credit to Charlie. What do you look? What are you doing? Like, he's giving charity credit to Charlie. What do you like? Like, the floppers again out of anybody you give credit to to give it to Charlie. Like, to me, it's purely that. I mean, when he says Ron the sank the whatever the sanctimonious meatball, that's his game plan. It's totally fine because the whole thing is, if your opponent gets irritated by a comment,

keep irritating him, right? That's what he's doing. He's very good at it. He finds a way to irritate you and he'll keep doing it. And if you show, you're not irritated and eventually has to go to a different nickname or whatever, my concern is in the name comment. My concern is, you can't question someone's resume. That's a real resume.

It's the same with when clowns say, Trump's not a real billionaire. Oh, okay, you are, right? Yeah, yeah, that's right. You were able to go into those heavy duty rooms in New York and negotiate with all these other guys, Manhattan, to buy air. Yeah, you're definitely a better business man than Trump was.

Yeah, yeah, you're the one that carried a show on NBC for 15 years called, what was the show's name called, the apprentice, one the greatest and then Shark Tank tried to duplicate that model and the kind of eyeballs. They got Arnold tried to do it for a season. It flopped so bad he was embarrassing. Yeah. Some would say that kind of finished up his career because you can't carry a show like that for 15 years. No, you can't be Trump.

Trump is not duplicatable. He is very good at what he does. You can't question someone's resume if it's got true credibility behind it. You make yourself look like a fool. And here he's trying to question the sentences resume. Who did it better? I don't know.

I don't know if anybody did it better. He did it better. DeSantis. Yeah, I mean, it's not even a question on who did it better. He did it better. And you know, this is a chance to come from a place of, I'm glad he used my policies. I'm glad he implemented some of the things that we were doing and I'm glad he had the success that he had because he followed our lead versus

showing signs of I Don't see in by the way in any business book or strategy book I don't see everything he's done up until this point, like in 2016 when he won, everything was like brilliant, interesting. Wow, crazy, risky. Look at this guy, look at, boom, he's president. Holy shit, he pulled it off and beating who?

The person that's supposed to be a president since she was 10 years old, 12 years old, she was supposed to be the first female. You be that heavyweight whose husband is a president. Damn, okay, cool. This guy knows what he's doing. But the biggest feedback is you, your strategy as an underdog will not work as a favorite.

It's just now. When Michael was coming up when he wanted to beat the Lakers for the first time to get the first ring and he was talking a lot of shit. Yeah, that's a different game. When you're coming back and you lose to the Orlando magic because of Nick Anderson Whatever he passes away from Scotty Pippin and everybody's like he's lost it when Michael was playing with the number 45 Do you remember that? Yeah, of course when you're Michael coming back after three peat everybody's coming for your throat

When you're Michael being beat by Detroit Pistons and they're bullying you you're going for everyone's throat You have a statement to make everybody else has a statement to make I don't see the position here You're bullying you, you're going for everyone's throat.