PBD Podcast - Reaction To The China Riots & The Trump Fiasco w/ Kevin Sorbo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 209

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Kevin Sorbo, Tom Ellsworth, and Adam Sosnick, to discuss Disney's CEO Bob Iger, Elon Musk, Balenciaga and Much More... TOPICS How has Hollywood become... Woke? What's happening with Disney? Will Bob Iger sell Disney to Apple? Reaction to men wearing heels on a Disney cruise Reaction to Alyssa Milano getting clowned by Elon Musk Is Apple going to drop Twitter from the App store? Is Apple restricting Airdrop in China? How Elon Musk runs his companies Homeschool vs Private school Trump calls Kanye a 'troubled young man' Reaction to the Balenciaga scandal FaceTime or Ask Patrick any questions on https://minnect.com/ Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ PBD Podcast Episode 209.  Kevin's new movie "Left Behind: Rise of the Antichrist" is in theatres on January 26th. For more info: http://bit.ly/3OJV5RE Purchase Kevin's book "True Strength: My Journey from Hercules to Mere Mortal and How Nearly Dying Saved My Life" here: http://bit.ly/3gRk2Oy Purchase Kevin's book "True Faith: Embracing Adversity to Live in God's Light" here: http://bit.ly/3OIGpT5 Follow Kevin on social media: http://bit.ly/3u5tuRH For more info check out SorboStudios.com: http://bit.ly/3F94SxG Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I know this life meant for me. Yeah, why would you plan on the life when we got that day? Value payment, giving values, contagious, this world, I want yourpreneurs. We can't no value that hate it. I'd be running home, you look what I've become. I'm the under one. Just a little Patrick Swayze, right? By the way Patrick Swayze is a place to live in La Crescendo Crescendo Valley right off. You could always see his place
Starting point is 00:00:31 It was off the 210 freeway anyways. We are live episode two on nine We were able to make this work. We got Kevin Sorball a.k. They're Hercules and the house today Kevin great to have you on the podcast good to be here You're gonna be on glad we can work it out. We a lot of things to talk about we do so and the house today, Kevin, great to have you on the podcast. Good to be here. Good to be here. We can work it out. We have a lot of things to talk about. We do. So apparently we're going to be selling a lot of books today.
Starting point is 00:00:49 We're trying. Yeah. And hopefully at the end we'll kind of talk about some of the stuff we got going with you with the book. But it's crazy times. There's a lot of weird things going on today. It just gets weirder. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:59 It's just strange. It's just strange. And the mainstream media loves to perpetuate it as you know. So what do you think? So for for guy like you who's been in Hollywood you know People would dream to have a career where they get a show that takes off Hercules people. I don't know how many countries were watching 150 plus we were in 176 countries pardon the centipri but we came by Season three we were the most watched TV show in the world if that's pretty intense
Starting point is 00:01:24 That's like a dream for an actor to do that. And to be the leading. So you've gone there, you've been in it for late 80s, I wanna say early 90s. No, we shot from 93 to 2000. No, no, as a professional. I was a professional, as an actor. As an actor, I actually started in 1980.
Starting point is 00:01:39 1980, okay. So how much, how many? 40 years, so I started when I was two, I'll say, but that's not How much is Hollywood changed the last 40 years? It's insanity. What's going on in there? Look my agent called me in about 10 11 years ago my agent manager together They're never in the same place because they're on different sides of the hill there in in California and I felt like it was an intervention by walking and said we can't work with anymore because I started getting pretty vocal on You know on internet and my wife, they're gonna come after you.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I said, why? What am I, I'm just saying the truth. This is the truth. But apparently the truth is a horrible thing to say on the internet as you know. So they said, we can't work with anymore. And Hollywood, the studio is saying, no, no, he's a Christian, he's a conservative.
Starting point is 00:02:19 We can't work with him. And I thought, wow, this is incredible. You guys, decades other one, screaming for tolerance, screaming for freedom of speech. But as you know, that's all the one way street with Hollywood. And that's too bad, because I don't harbor that kind of hate and anger that they have towards people like me. I just don't. I have friends that are liberal, friends that are atheist.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And we get along, we have a beer, we play golf, and we give each other our time. But we're still friends. But it's a different world right now, in terms of, as you know, the divisiveness that's gone on. And I think it's been created a lot by some of the presidents we've had in the past and also certainly the mainstream media that jump on this bandwagon to go after anybody
Starting point is 00:02:51 as a different point of view. Kevin, in Hollywood, Maliki, if you can bring me up about five points, in Hollywood, if you look at some of the guys that are able to coexist with all the other liberals that are in there. So politically, we know which side Hollywood leans on. It's not a new thing. Everyone knows about it. But you see some of these guys that are still able to keep producing, and they're almost like a untouchable community.
Starting point is 00:03:17 They, I call it the St. Status, where a Clint Eastwood, you can't touch him. He's untouchable. Mark Wahlberg was on Fox News last week, talking about his moving his family to Nevada because he wants a better environment for his kids. He doesn't want the Hollywood thing to be there. He kind of feels like it's a better place for him to raise his kids. There's certain guys on Hollywood that are still producing, still making some of them obviously got blacklisted. Vince wants used to do a lot of work. You got a little bit benched for a couple years sure any came back maybe not at the levels he was pre-run Paul libertarian all that's that he was doing how do some of the guys that are still conservative people know
Starting point is 00:03:55 their conservative conservative what makes them get away with it in Hollywood I think like you bring up a clenese would I think the fact that he was been such a big star for so many years in the A-list world, I think that he, they know they got to hit with them. They made disagree with them. It was a 92 years old, they still heard he wants a direct one or movie. I've known Clint, we're not buddies, but I've known him for over 25 years. I keep saying Clint, one line, it's all I want and one of your movies. I just want to say I was a Clint Eastwood movie.
Starting point is 00:04:23 But at Wallberg, I think Wallberg is sort of in that same category in the younger generation, but these guys, there's no fear with it. I wasn't in the A list world, but I was staying busy. I mean, after Hercules, I did a show called Andromeda for five years, and Ryan Barry's been up. And I stayed working, but I do a lot of independent movies. Hollywood gave me the boot, but I still love the industry. I'm still staying alive.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I shot over 45 movies since Hollywood said goodbye. Not all of them are great, but a lot of my movies Hollywood gave me the boot but I still have the industry and some still staying alive I shot over 45 movies since Hollywood said goodbye you know not all of them are great but a lot of my pretty darn good family movies and that's what I want to keep doing yeah so I'm fortunate to keep my career going but it's not like they they can still do these big hundred why do you think they can do it why do you think a for example uh wallberg I want to say is a catholic right when you know the movie stew what's the movie called father stew or something i want to about a crazy movies i thought it was gonna be better movie i'm a big mark wall wall wallberg wallboard fans sure i wouldn't say it's his top ten movie
Starting point is 00:05:15 vault time but it really impacted him in a way where he kind of came out and talked about how this movie got me thinking family all this other stuff how long it hasn't been known that Walburk or Clint or some of these guys are either conservative or not part of the camp in Hollywood? How long has that been known? I think it varies for each of them.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I think Clint has been for a long time. I mean, he wasn't afraid to, you know, use a mayor of Carmel up there and just for one reason. Yeah, and I just think that there's no fear factor with him. I think that's great. I think he got guys like Bruce Willis. He's been revocal, unfortunately. His health's not very good right now.
Starting point is 00:05:51 James Woods, he got banned from Facebook and Twitter. I got banned from Facebook for posting a truth about COVID, but God forbid you do that. Mark Zuckerberg's a bit of a worst and his trolls are the same. But I'm gonna keep fighting the good fight and keep speaking for the truth. And we gotta keep doing that.
Starting point is 00:06:06 How long have these guys done it? And I have no idea. I just know that Mark Wallberg, I think, has been more vocal lately. I think Adam Salars on that side too, he's not as vocal, but he still has messages in his movies that show that he is. And I know, I pretty knows he's more conservative than people probably know. But you know, it's, I think there's a fear factor for so many people.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I get actors every time that do my movies, come into me because I produce my movies, I've been directing a lot lately and they come up, hey, thanks for being a voice for us. I go in and be a voice for yourself. Why do I have to be your voice? Well, they don't want the same thing to happen to them that happened to me.
Starting point is 00:06:38 What year did this really start culminating? Like you said, you started acting in the 80s, you probably didn't notice it then, you know, Clint Eastwood's been speaking at the RNC for 20 years now, whatever it is. But you must have noticed some sort of slippery slope in Hollywood. Like, was there a trigger point when you start to see the mechanics kind of shifting and the wokeism taken over? I've always seen it, but I think when Obama got elected, I think 2008 was a turning point, not because he's half black, by the way, he's also half white, okay, people forget. I just think that he brought forward a different view of America to people. You know, he gets his wife saying, I'm finally proud of being American, really. You know,
Starting point is 00:07:21 I guess we're not a perfect country, but we're still a country everybody wants to go to here, right? Nobody's taking boats from Key West, Acuba. They're all coming across you. Correct. So, um, to me, it's like, I, I started noticing it during those years, especially, I think the last, I think when Trump got elected to get attacked every single day, here's a guy that both parties loved. He was on all the talk shows, he was on the magazines, they had them all, the ones he decided to go for one side say look i'm be i'm conservative i'm gonna make America better place everyday i think no president is going to what he's going to every single day
Starting point is 00:07:52 of his presidency and they still go after him so but so you know what that does to me though this gets me to think about because at one point you're right trump was untouchable trump was saint status trump was you know larger than life to two-packed talks about, I mean, everybody would wrap about Trump and then he goes out. So maybe the differentiator is there's got to be a line you can't cross what Hollywood for them to turn on you.
Starting point is 00:08:19 You can be privately known as conservative, like a Mark Wahlberg or a Clint Eastwood or Adam Sandler or some of these names you're saying But as long as you're not too vocal like a you know James Woods as long as you're not too vocal as yourself or some other people Will let you slide but you cannot be too vocal you think that's kind of what the line is there I think for me not being an a-lister but being an actor that was still steadily working and still have every year, the last four decades, I was easier to go after right away because I'm not doing $300 million movies that are making a billion dollars to the studio. I mean, they can scream all they want that they love socialism. Let's face it.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I mean, Disney still wants to make money. They are a capitalist business. They can put on that. I don't know if Shepek wants to make money. That's why he got fired. That's why you got fired. That's why you got to get rid of him. Yeah. Oh, and he was good at not making money.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah. It was very good not making money. I mean, you guys hear about, by the way, two comments. One, what you just said about COVID, you made a comment on Facebook. I don't know if you guys saw this on Twitter. This is as of November 23rd.
Starting point is 00:09:21 This is an announcement. Effective November 23rd, 2020, to Twitter is no longer enforcing the COVID-19 misleading information policy. So that announcement was just made. What does that mean exactly? Which means now, if you want to push back to Fauci, if you want to push back with vaccines,
Starting point is 00:09:38 if you want to push back with that, Twitter is no longer banning you like they did before. That's what they're talking about. Or if you want to ask them why they're pushing amnesty through a very carefully placed piece in the Atlantic where they're saying, oh, why don't we just get over all this and give everybody amnesty?
Starting point is 00:09:54 Oh, really? Isn't that interesting? No, why would you need amnesty? What do you think about, you know, a guy that's been in the space? What do you think with what's happening with Disney? Disney just came out with this one movie, Cartoon, is a strange world.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yeah, strange world. Strange world, I went with my son to watch this movie. Apparently, this movie, they cost him $180 million to make. They're expecting to lose $100 million. It's known as their worst bomb of all time. This is back to back with the other movie they did The what's the light year buzz light year? Yeah, which was also bomb
Starting point is 00:10:28 Which was also bomb and I tweeted about this if he can't go on Twitter I want to show the backlight shot God which was awesome. It was funny as hell So I am watching this movie this weekend. We take the kids. It's me My six-year-old daughter Senna Dylan and my ten-year-old son, Senna Dylan, and my 10-year-old son. We're sitting there watching a movie, commercial start, we like the commercials. And then the movie starts within five, 10 minutes. My son looks at me and says, Dad, I've no desire to watch this movie, let's leave, right?
Starting point is 00:10:54 Don't go to this one, go to the origin one, what I posted. Go keep going back, keep going back, keep going lore, or it's not gonna let you do it. Oh, let's see if it's not gonna let you do it. It's one more after that. Oh my goodness, keep going a little bit more. That's one right there.
Starting point is 00:11:08 So zoom in. So as a tick to the kiss of watch, this movie, cartoon strange world, within 10 minutes of the movie, my 10-year-old son's not dead. I have no desire watch. This movie can be lived. Tiko says this to me, right? You're all this son.
Starting point is 00:11:19 My oldest son. He says this and we leave. Because within 10 minutes, everything seems to be a little bit too much of messaging and it's not even holding back anymore. It's in your face and then I got trolled which was hilarious. Go back up to some of the comments. The one that you were, yeah, keep going. Look at this one here.
Starting point is 00:11:38 This is sick. Look at this. Dearest father, it has been 10 minutes and I'm already unentertained by this subpar production due to the average attention span of my age. Anyways, people troll Tico and they said what 10-year-old son says I have no desire to watch this movie. I said a 10-year-old who's what read 500 books. Right, what they don't know about Tico. They don't know who he is. Literally how we talk. It's so weird. Father thou. I have no desire to perpetuate this indoctrination.
Starting point is 00:12:07 What is the movie about though? You haven't heard them. What do you think about that? What do you think about Hollywood? What do you think about what's going on with Disney right now? Specifically Disney. It's weird to me that they want a cater to the lowest percentage of people on the planet.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I mean, I don't understand it. I don't understand this wokeness thing. I think I was think I'm one of the first people that could, you know, attack by the woke world and the cancel culture in Hollywood 12 years ago and they basically said we can't work with anymore before it became a term. And I honestly don't get it. You look at a movie like the Top Gun Maverick movie. It did so well because people said here's just a movie that just, know waves the flag certainly it does but that's what Top Gun and all things all about. But it wasn't pushing this agenda or pushing that agenda. Who do you know who the enemy was? We don't know who the bad they didn't want to do that either.
Starting point is 00:12:56 But you know but at the same time it was just a movie that was just fun to watch and it was just you know it did so well because it catered to the audience that still wants to go see theaters. Yeah. I don't, you know, people get mad. There was a movie. I was just one that had the gay relationship and there's something.
Starting point is 00:13:13 So they get mad because people don't want to see that. And you're going, well, let people see what they want to see. I thought they're supposed to be a free country and we're supposed to go what we want, you know. It's, oh yeah, yeah. I'm not telling Disney not to do what they're doing with the movies, but that, why am I doing movies that are totally opposite that I've love and hope and laughed in yeah, yeah. I'm not telling Disney not to do what they're doing with the movies, but why am I doing movies that are totally opposite to that of love and hope and laughter and redemption?
Starting point is 00:13:28 Those are the kind of movies I want to do, and those are the movies that people keep telling me to make. But I don't have $100 million dollar budget like they do to advertise it, because they did. That's what they did. A movie like that needs to get to about $500, $600 million dollars to break even. Yep. And that's why they keep doing movies like Avatar and Avengers and things like that. They need to get to that level, but they're gonna make two billion dollars in theaters. So they're gonna make pirates of the Caribbean 14.
Starting point is 00:13:50 They're gonna keep making these movies. Avengers. Avengers. 300 billion dollars. And they'll keep doing it. So you think the Avengers paid Johnny that the $300 million to do pirates at a cure. Probably. And you think he's gonna accept it?
Starting point is 00:14:02 Probably. You might have heard he's had some legal troubles. Yeah, but when you said you said the term they keep playing to the lowest percentage of people What do you mean by that exactly? Well, it just seems like they wanted okay? What what percentage the population is transgender? 0.5 percent. It's really low exactly fine people want to do their way like fine I'm not racist towards that or hate people that go through that. In fact, I feel sorry for some because what I've read about it, they go through a lot of things Psychologically as well a lot of trauma. Yeah, a lot of trauma in the show and then the gay population
Starting point is 00:14:33 I love when they call me homophobic. I've been in the business 40 years I worked with gay people in every set of been on you won't find one that said he was so mean to me They won't but it's easy just being a conservative is enough for them to say oh he hates gay people No, I don't but that's easy to have that mark and they have their labels But that's all they have is their labels. They don't have things to back it up They have these little labels that the media tells them to say your racist your homophobe your anti-Semit They sell this stuff while they're actually the ones are anti-Semit but anyway It's a weird world out there right now where they come after you for anything
Starting point is 00:15:02 I mean the people that attack me on Twitter. I can say great day in the golf course. I hope you die. You know, there's these people have nothing better to do with their lives. And to me, I feel more sad from I don't feel anger towards them. I feel like my God, what kind of life did they lead when they got to wake up and boy look in the mirror and hate what they see? What a horrible way to go through life every day. You're saying like the law of large numbers that 0.5%, 5%, 2%, whatever the number is, they're catering to that audience that the 90 plus percent. You know what it's like? It's weird.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Yeah, it's called the loudest percent. What business are you in? You're in what business? The life insurance business. But you're not just in the life insurance business, in the life settlement business. Correct. Okay, so life settlement. Imagine if you started targeting 20 year olds and your commercials for life settlement,
Starting point is 00:15:44 which is what? For clients that are above 78, let's just say, right? Seven, five and up, right? Imagine if these life settlement companies started targeting 18 year old kids saying, think about your life insurance policy, 18 year old kids can say, what the hell, I guarantee you 90% of people
Starting point is 00:16:00 listen to this right now, don't even know what life settlement is. Correct, I'm sorry, let me Google life, here's what a life settlement is you're 75 years old. You have a five million dollar insurance policy. You got a two million dollar insurance policy. Everybody you love is no longer alive and your kids who you had insurance for no longer need insurance because they're married. They're career is fine. They're doing good. But your premium used to be two hundred dollars a month. Now it's five hundred dollars a month. Now it's two thousand
Starting point is 00:16:23 dollars a month. You can't afford it. So you got $5 million. A guy like this comes up to you and says, listen, I'll pay you 18% for your $2 million policy. You're paying however much money. I'll pay you 18% for it. What's 18%? $360,000 here.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Give us a $2 million insurance policy. We'll pay the premium. You're 78 years old. Based on your life expectancy, you're going to die at 85. We'll take the risk. Okay, cool. 360 on the life. I get the $2 million policy. I'll make the exchange, right? If an insurance company targeted 18-year-olds, that's stupid practice. Okay? And that's what
Starting point is 00:16:53 Disney's doing. So on the capitalism side, it's dumb practice because capitalism eventually exposes dumb ideas and Disney is getting exposed for dumb ideas Bob ship back where they have to beg a Bob Iger to come back which Bob Iger is sitting there saying I may have some political aspirations that he has to put on pause because the guy went from being a Democrat to apparently is a more independent middle right now and he was kind of having the conversation when he was my 21st century Fox when Murdoch asked him and said hey any aspirations are under for office?
Starting point is 00:17:25 Not really, even who was thinking about running for president, will Bob Iger save it then there's the other part. So one is capitalism, it's gonna expose. You know what the other part is? Here's the other part. Sitting there with the movie. It's literally the scene when it happens. So so far I'm trying to figure out what's going on with this cartoon. It's actually like watching cartoons. I like cartoons.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I'm the 44 year old guy that likes watching a good cartoon. And in all of a sudden, you see this 10-year-old kid blushing when another 10-year-old kid would highlight shows up. He's like, oh my god, and I'll like, wait, what? And they come like, oh, I said, okay, I get you. What you're trying to do. You want to say that we have a high DEI score because everything you have meets the guidelines of that community. Okay, one, don't forget who your customers are. Kids are not buying $20 tickets, parents are. You're an idiot, if you think parents
Starting point is 00:18:18 are gonna sit there, most parents are gonna sit there and say, well, you know what, it's okay. No, a lot of parents are gonna say, no, it's not okay. And then they're going to go to a different place. So then the rumor mill goes into the story, which I want to read in a time, I want to get your commentary on this crazy story. No, it's not true. There's no way this would ever happen. We never talked about this. We've never had any kind of an interest in this. This isn't true. It's just a bunch of people writing about it. Can we stop talking about this topic here? I want to see where the story is, by the way.
Starting point is 00:18:46 There it is. Okay, page four. Let me read this too. So, Crazy Rumor says, Bob Eiger might want to sell Disney to Apple. And a move worthy of HBO's TV show Hit Succession. Disney announced late on Sunday that Bob Eiger is replacing Shepek as as CEO, Shea Peck was the CEO of Disney for nearly three years. He was Eiger's pick for the job when he retired from his tenure as CEO and Eiger's new mission is to find another replacement by Disney's insiders.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Now claim that Eiger's ultimate goal might be to sell the company with Apple, being the most likely buyer we have been, we have seen speculation in the past that either Disney or Apple would be interested in such a deal. Previously, IGRA noted that Steve Jobs was a close friend, a Disney Apple merger, might have been on the table if it weren't for jobs, ultimately death. In 2011, with IGRs returned to Disney, insiders are already speculating that his mission might be to sell the company. And the Apple's name is popping up again.
Starting point is 00:19:42 One such insider talked to a rap saying that IGRA will sell the company and the apples, the name is popping up again. One such insider talked to a rap saying that I girl will sell the company. This is the pinnacle deal for the ultimate deal maker, the unnamed insider claim. This is not verified. Nobody knows, can it happen? Tom, what are your thoughts on the story? Well, I think what's going on is it has to happen.
Starting point is 00:19:58 What you have to do is don't think of Disney as a content company right now. Think of them as an entertainment company. So, and they have all these legs of entertainment. They got the theme parks, they make their own movies, but they've also know that the control is shifted because all of the expensive infrastructure guys are going bankrupt, right? Whether it be direct TV, whether it be dish, or delivering hard cable. All of that is a losing business. Over the top is everything and we all call it streaming.
Starting point is 00:20:30 If you take a look at it, Hulu's got about 10, 11% of total streaming market now. And Disney Plus is about 15%. So that's 25% of it. Remember, that's of spend, because Hulu gives you live sports, local channels, all that. Disney Plus gives you the Marvel library.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Actually, I like the Hulu product. I just got turned on to it a recent in the way of the product. I love the Hulu product. I'm a long time subscriber. Yeah. And then Disney Plus has got massive libraries. So that's really a Netflix competitor,
Starting point is 00:20:57 if you think about that. They got the Marvel, they got Lucasfilm, they have all their own stuff. Now you step back and look at it and say, women, what have Apple TV, what library do they have? Well, they don't really. How are they able to compete with YouTube and with Hulu to be the cable provider so you get your local channels and all the other stuff with it?
Starting point is 00:21:17 The answer is they really can't. They're kind of stuck at 7%. If Apple buys Disney, you instantly have one third share of the streaming dollars and a quarter of the over-the-top cable subscribers. That's huge. And so now, you have consolidation. And you have to step back and look at, and I'll do a tangent here about, I think people understand it. Remember a day about 10 years ago, we had about seven mobile phone companies in the United States. Now we have basically three, T-Mobile, which includes Sprint, Verizon, AT&T.
Starting point is 00:21:52 That is 95%. So the consolidation happens. So Iger, yesterday was asked about Disney selling to Apple and he already said, he said, I don't think Disney is gonna be making any massive acquisitions for a while I'm very interested in reducing the $1.5 billion loss. We had on streaming at Hulu Wait a minute wait a minute that wasn't the question was answered I wasn't asking if you would make a large acquisition
Starting point is 00:22:18 I was asking if apple would acquire you and he very skillfully answered it a very specific way. And I took, I took note of that and I believe what's going to happen here, the over the top consolidation has to continue. That's a big, if Apple does that, they already have a monopoly, fully in Twitter over the weekend, the last couple days. This would be massive if Apple pulled this off. And by the way, if there's anybody that has a cash to pull it off that can do to financing, it's one company, that's Apple.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Kevin, have you ever worked with Disney? I have, I have. They're actually the sitcom for them. When I'm drama to finish in 2005, I just sitcom, I was owned by them because they own ABC as well. And I was called Bobby Cannon. It's an idea that I came up with my with my old manager. We wrote
Starting point is 00:23:05 out the you know ten page outline for the series, the Bible for the series. We got Barry Kemp to come in and write a Barry Kemp wrote. He created the coach series with Criterine Nelson and created the Bob Neward series. Norm McDonald's really good writer. And we actually tested number one of their 20, they had about 28 pilots that year. They know what there was this. 2005. Go on. You can see Bobby Cannon at Sunline. I play an aging quarterback for Chicago Bears at the end of his career.
Starting point is 00:23:30 It's kind of like coach meets cheers in a way. Still a playboy, still playing around. Kate Walsh was in it, playing my biographer. She went on to private practice for many years. Rocky Carroll has been an NCIS, the last decade. Great cast. And we tested number one for ABC and they didn't pick us up. Welcome to the politics of Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Who knows what they are. People are realize that each of these network guys, they run it, CBS, NBC, Fox, whatever. They get the final say. So there's a lot of good shows out there that people will never ever, ever know about. There it is right there. People will never know about the show.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And they'll never, it's a great show. We tested number one. They bring it in New York for upfront, so they picked it up. The next day, they decided not to pick it up. I went from like, ride in high, I think the USA today did a big article on me saying Kevin Sarbo from Herc to Kirk,
Starting point is 00:24:19 because I played, you know, Captain Dylan Hunt, but you know, it's equal to Sanders. Is he now the King of Comedy? Big article on me, it was a lot. It was very exciting, very cool, because I had done a number of guest spots. I was on Murder, Shiro's, on Two and a half men. I've done Domen Gregg, all these different shows.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And I figured this is gonna be awesome. I love the live audiences, it was a blast. We had a great time with the show, it's absolutely hilarious. And they don't pick it up. How are the decisions like that made by the way? I have, who knows? Really? I think there's politics involved. with the show, it's absolutely hilarious, and they don't pick it up. How are the decisions like that made by the way? I have, who knows? I think there's politics involved.
Starting point is 00:24:48 But they have a thing in there that they call it, I can't remember, it was, they had a lore mark one time. And they came up with a ruling because this is what happened. There was a series, Jag, he may have had a judge. You ran for 10 years. Sure, yeah, of course. Well, the first season was NBC or whatever, going to CBS. The Les Munes, that's what they call it.
Starting point is 00:25:09 So what happened was the show, they didn't like the ratings on the show. So CBS says, well, we'll buy it. They buy it. It becomes a massive top 10 hit for 10, 12 years. So they don't want to be embarrassed anymore by doing a show that they pull off the air. So now they sit on the shelf for five years. You have to sign a contract. We own it for five years no matter what happens to it and the pilot.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So they don't do it. They let a dive attrition on the shelf instead of actually putting a back out there for people. And the egos of all these guys coming in, they don't want to take an old show from somebody else anyway and redo it. They want their own show with their own people. And that's what happens when any network or studio gets taken over by somebody new. A lot of people lose their jobs and they bring in their own people. So this is the battle with that show. It's a great, great show. And it's unfortunate that that it didn't go. But that's part of the deal. You got to fight with these guys because
Starting point is 00:25:56 it happens all the time. And that it killed me when that show didn't go. Kevin, did you ever in your career in Hollywood that anybody would sit you down and say, Hey, Kevin, relax, you're talking too much. You got a good career. Be quiet. You know, keep your politics to yourself. It's going to hurt your career. You shouldn't be doing it. It's any big name people every give you counsel like that? Or no. Tom Selleck. Tom Selleck. We're walking. It was 2007 or 2008, we're at the Emmy Awards. And we're walking into the governor's ball afterwards and awards. So I show was over and he's always been a cool guy I don't I don't know him well, but every time I met him, he's always just gonna class hacked me
Starting point is 00:26:30 Magnum PI bro, what is armor? What is armor? I'm gonna put his armor on me and he said Kevin you got to keep quiet You know and I that time I was like this like 2008 I said how well-out am I being? I mean and it was just like now you got to be careful because it trust me people talk and sure enough It it happened, but he was probably the biggest one that came up to me and said something, you know, other than my wife saying stop. And at any point, we were like, got you Tom. Let me, let me, let me actually heed your advice. I didn't or you just said, now I'm going to do me.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I didn't know. At that time, I was like, what am I saying this? I'm speaking the truth, but you can't speak the truth. You know, what were you saying in 08? That was the truth. Obviously, these days, it's a little more contentious, COVID, this lockdown. No, yeah, what was the drama in 08?
Starting point is 00:27:11 Honestly, I can't remember, but I know that I was out there being a conservative. I was out there being a Christian. I was like, I was walking the set, trying to convert people in like that, but when people would say something on a set, I would always confront them one-to-one. I go, what do you mean about that? I don't understand what your terms of abortion, why
Starting point is 00:27:29 we even talk about this, why did you bring that up? It was just weird to me that all of sudden that started getting out there more and more and more, I guess, from me being just more vocal about it and Tom noticed it and said something to me. And Tom, is Tom's career still going, is he still doing shows? He's on blue blood. It's been on for like 10 years. Yeah. And Tom, who's show was Tom on with him and her went at it.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Was it Rosie? No, was a... What'd be Goldberg? No, not what'd be Goldberg. There was another one who she had a show and then she got kicked off. It was, it was it. It is a Rosie, that Rosie O'Donnell.
Starting point is 00:28:03 No Rosie. No Rosie O'Donnell. No Rosie O'Donnell. No Rosie O'Donnell. No Rosie O'Donnell. Yes. um it is a rosy that rose your down rose no rosy rose your down rose the other one yes where her daughter just turned on the one that trump also has a yeah yeah yeah he's uh man rosy prez not rosy prez oh my god oh cuss we need to make a man no i did a regular show i did was on rosy show what girl i was on rosy show it was me bring it on that show anyways there was a uh i think of, I'll think of it. I'll think of it here. I'll bring it up.
Starting point is 00:28:28 By the way, it's interesting again hearing these things because Tom Sallike, who is also been vocal, maybe not at the levels like you're soft in games' woods, because you guys are like on steroids. You guys haven't slowed down at all. Both of you guys are very vocal. So when I said the story about Disney, Guy Kevin sends me this picture.
Starting point is 00:28:47 He says, we just got off of Disney Cruise and he says, on the cruise, this is one of the guys that was telling the story to the kids. I said, okay, what's wrong with the picture? He's telling nice stories, he says, look at what he's wearing, shoes. I'm like, what's he wearing? Mark and Jacob.
Starting point is 00:29:01 He's zoom in. He's wearing high heels talking to kids. Yeah. So look, this is gonna confuse parents where parents are gonna say, I'm sorry, Disney, I'm just not taking my kids to the cruise. Period. There's gonna be a lot of parents
Starting point is 00:29:18 that don't wanna answer unnecessary questions yet to an eight-year-old kid. It's too early to have those types of conversations when you get things like this. This is not controversial. This is the average parent doesn't want to talk about, you know, a lot of different topics that they don't want to talk to them about.
Starting point is 00:29:35 This being one of them. So if Disney thinks this is okay to say, what's wrong with that? Let them do that kind of things. You again, Disney, don't understand who your customers and, too, you have understand who your customers and two, you have lost control of your company, your brand, what it stood for, you have fully lost control.
Starting point is 00:29:51 And it's to the point where there are walking on eggshells, wondering what they need to do to turn the company around. One of the best things we witnessed during COVID, one of the best things we witnessed during COVID was a case study of Disney. One was Disneyland, the other one was Disney World. Right, California, Florida, that was great. One was Disneyland, hey, you know, we're gonna do this
Starting point is 00:30:13 and we're gonna do that and we're gonna shut, and Disney World's like, nah, California, California, remember, Bob Iger was sitting on the board with Gavin Newsom to help going through this process and in California shuts down the park and then Bob Iger resigns from Gavin Newsom's camp says listen, I don't wanna help you out anymore because what you're doing, I'm against
Starting point is 00:30:33 Disney loses 78,000 jobs. The Sanctus keeps Disney World open. The restaurants around all staying business, they're not affected by it because people are going to Disney World and the businesses around that were making money when people were staying at Disney World's St go into this new world and the businesses around that were making money when people were staying at this new world staying intact then they interview the businesses around this new land that no longer got the traffic
Starting point is 00:30:50 they got destroyed. Disney has screwed it up so bad the last 24-36 months if they don't get their act together hell of course someone's going to buy them out at a pennies on a dollar and some of Scott Rodriguez was a valetainer he's a p P.B.D. podcast. A member. He just gave a super chat 50 bucks and he said I was just at Disney World November 11 till the 20th with the family. This was the sixth time going on in the last 10 years. P.B.D. we are a Disney family. I can tell you the magic is gone and it's so sad apple
Starting point is 00:31:21 buying Disney will ruin Disney Apple is so woke. Anyway, so Apple's even woker than Disney. He's saying Apple is even woker than Disney. Can I ask you a question? Because you've got four kids, all basically ten and under. Kevin, you've got three. Okay, how old are they?
Starting point is 00:31:37 17, 18 and 21. Okay, so you've got teenagers and college age. Tom, you've got teenagers. Yep, you know, I've got a nephew who's ten, right? And all my buddies all have kids. They're all between five and 12 years old. I don't have kids. But is that the common denominator?
Starting point is 00:31:53 It's just like, listen, I don't think anybody cares what you do in your private life. You want to be gay, you want to be trans? Like, go for it. I mean, I'm from Florida. My sister went to UCF, she worked at Disney. All her friends were gay. They're all the musical theater kids that go to do it. I mean, I'm from Florida. My sister went to UCF. She worked at Disney. All her friends were gay. They're all the musical theater kids that go to...
Starting point is 00:32:09 I work a lot of gay. I work a lot of gay, yeah. Literally, nobody has a problem with that. But, I mean, I'm speaking as not a parent. I'm more asking you guys, is that where you draw the line? Obviously, it's like, look, do what you guys want to do. We really don't care. But when you start trying to indoctrinate six-year-olds,
Starting point is 00:32:25 10-year-olds, 12-year-olds, that's where we have a problem. I say let people grow up and find out where they want to be in their life when they grow up. Why this forcing on them when they're five, six years old, what the Santa's did was saying, this is ridiculous to do these to kids. The young gay. The young gay.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Let them figure out for themselves. They're great and under. I went through high school and they went, they went to class reunions five and 10 years later. And then like five or six of the guys that I had no idea where gay were gay now. And I said, did you have to hide this during high school? Did you know back then?
Starting point is 00:32:52 A couple of them said, yeah. But I didn't know that. I couldn't have cared less that they were or not, but it was interesting that they had to hide it. And I think that's their biggest badlets. We need to not be afraid to come out. We're fine to come out. And today's world, I don't think anybody's afraid anymore, especially in America,
Starting point is 00:33:06 you know, just go for it, which is fine. But I think people are tired of being forced on the throw. It's constantly, it's constant going on. It's like every commercial, every, it's like fine. Congratulations, you know, I mean, it's just, it's gotten to a point now that people just, are just fed up with it. And I think people are getting more vocal about it now. Listen, let me tell you what is going on right now, which is, I think it's gonna take two years to come out of this and it's not gonna be easy. I think it's gonna be very ugly. You know how I said, I think Twitter's gonna be
Starting point is 00:33:35 a trillion dollar company. I still firmly believe Twitter's gonna be a trillion dollar company. I'm betting that it's gonna be a trillion dollar company. Elon Musk thinks within a year he can have a billion active users on Twitter. And I gotta tell you, I used to, a Twitter was at the bottom of my apps being used.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I'd never used Twitter. I was very inactive on Twitter. I would do something here and there, but it wasn't something I was like, let me get active on Twitter. Twitter's a more funner product the last four weeks and sees about it way before. I'm more active on Twitter than I've ever been
Starting point is 00:34:01 because of what's happened with them. Now watch this. Now watch who's lost their minds and what they're doing and how hypocrisy gets exposed. Can you pull up Alyssa Malano's tweet? Oh my god. What the Hodg twins said to him to her. I don't know if it's a him or her. I think Alyssa Malano's her. Um, that's where her. I don't want to offend her. Alyssa Malano says, I give my Tesla back. I give back my Tesla. I bought a VW EV. I
Starting point is 00:34:30 love it. I'm not sure how advertisers can buy space on Twitter. Publicly traded companies products being pushed in alignment with hate and white supremacy. Doesn't seem to be a winning business model. Hotch twins. Volkswagen was literally founded by Nazis and Hitler. And I get to honor 73 of you. We can do our homework on that. And then Elon Musk laughs and you see what happens there. This is the best part when people open their mouth. All of a sudden, you're able to filter out through people's bullshit
Starting point is 00:35:04 and this is why Twitter is winning today. And Alissa Milano is trying to find the smallest hole in the world to go hide in so people can't find her. There isn't anything more embarrassing than this. If we had a dummy of the week segment, this could be the dummy of the year segment, although there's a lot of other people that are competing with her. What do you think about this?
Starting point is 00:35:22 He's posted a lot of dummy of the year events. There's a world kind of dummy of the year. With the whole run on right now. You know, with the whole mask wearing thing too. I mean, I've talked to plenty of doctors being on closed walls, you know, closed doors and they sit down, you know, the mask they're used to.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Well, I knew that was. I mean, it was just crazy, you know, walking the restaurant where it's sit down, you can take your mask off really. So, I guess in the booth, I'm safe, I'm getting COVID. I mean, the whole hip-hop is, and she showed one that she, I guess she crocheted her own back. That's good.
Starting point is 00:35:48 But you know, it's what that's out there now and people do this kind of stuff. I'm on Twitter, please follow me on Twitter. I do very funny Twitter, sarcastic Twitter's. And so at K-Sorbs, my buddies call me Sorbs, at K-Sorbs, check it out. I posted stuff like, you know, you wanna go out to COVID,
Starting point is 00:36:03 tell the Clintons COVID's got something on them. That was one of my put out there. I said, Federman, Sorbs, check it out. I posted stuff like, you know, you want to go away to COVID, tell the Clintons COVID's got something on them. That was one of my put out there. I said, Federman, Federman, and Biden for 2024. It's a no-brainer. I mean, that's kind of stuff I put out there. So to me, I just have fun with it. And you got your trolls out there attacking every time, but I don't care.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I feel sorry for you, trolls. I really do. I hope you get your lives together and actually find purpose in your life. But again, this is a great thing about capitalism. Okay? Somebody like a musk comes and buys Twitter, people lose their minds, but here's where I believe the connection is with Disney, with Apple, with Twitter, and this is deeply concerning.
Starting point is 00:36:37 And let me kind of give you an idea of what my worry is here. So, Elon, so first of all, MPR, let me read the article with the 50 advertisers. If you want to pull that up, the article about 50 advertisers, you put on a different section, let me see where that is, page 10. Okay, if we go to page 10, here's a story about what's happened with Twitter. Okay, if you want to pull it up so the audience can see this. 50 of Twitter's top 100 advertisers have pulled out from the platform since Elon Musk took over, report Reports say this is an insider story.
Starting point is 00:37:06 In the 25 days since Elon Musk took over Twitter, half of its top 100 advertisers stopped advertising on the platform according to research center media matters. Again, media matters. Since 2020, those 50 companies have accounted for nearly $2 billion in advertising revenue. This year alone, they spent $750 million, those 50 companies. That's a big number by the way.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Some of those companies like Chevrolet, Ford, Chipotle have publicly announced that they were stopping advertising on Twitter. Media Matter says the others quiet quitters because it's analysis of mathematics. Data shows that they have stopped advertising for significant period of time. Coca-Cola, Kellogg's, Metta, and amongst those who have pulled their advertising budgets away from Twitter, according to Media Matters, the list of all 50 is available on Media Matters report, the Media Center cites direct outreach, controversies, and warnings from media buyers as causes behind those companies'
Starting point is 00:38:06 decisions. So now, $750 million, giving them $2 million, we're having an outdone, this year, $750 million. Let's do the math. $750 million, divided by $12 is what? About $62 million, $62 million divided by $8 is what? $62 divided by $8, so $62 divided by $8 is $9 million, $7 million divided by $8 is what? 62 divided by 8. So 62 divided by 8 is 9 million, 7 million divided by 8. You need 7.75 million people per month to pay $8 a month to match that 750. That's not a big number. Here's what's scary. Listen, all the advertisers, if this guy pulls off 20 million people paying eight bucks a month if 20 million pay eight bucks a month
Starting point is 00:38:50 He can give the middle finger to the advertisers. It's game over from there because he no longer needs their money Now, why is this so important? Here's why this is so important He tweets something to Apple can you pull the tweet up about Apple? I want to get your thoughts on this one here. Not this one. There's another 30% App Store. No, no, he calls that Tim Cook. If you just go to his account and it should come up, if you go to his account, go up a little bit and he says,
Starting point is 00:39:18 I hope you have it. Go a little bit more, I hope it allows you to do it. Oh, man, there's a part about him calling out. There it is right there, right there, right there. Go up, go up, one more. So click on that, okay, click on that right there that says, what's going on here, Tim Cook? Okay, what's going on here, Tim Cook?
Starting point is 00:39:38 No response. Go a little lower, go a little lower. I think he responds. Okay, there it is. Apple has mostly stopped advertising on Twitter. Do they hate free speech in America? Tim Cook doesn't respond. No one's saying anything.
Starting point is 00:39:54 So then the threat comes out that they're thinking about potentially dropping the Apple app. I'm sorry, the Twitter app off of Apple. So, wait a minute, you're gonna potentially drop Apple, Twitter app off Apple? Yes. If that happens, Tom, what happens? Think about it. If Apple drops it off, guess who has to drop them off afterwards? Droid. Because they have to match the two. What happens if they drop Twitter off the app?
Starting point is 00:40:25 Well, almost people don't know is there are 51 Android-based handset manufacturers in the world. Do you think one of them would like to make 20 million handsets a year for Elon Musk? I think so. Also, if you look inside cars, you're telematics inside your car, that's an Android device. Android is ubiquitous, and it would be not difficult for us to get a phone.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Look at the technology puts into Tesla. Look at he's got in that dashboard. This would not be a difficult thing to get an Android manufacturer, make an Android-based phone, and put it on there himself. And I think people know it. I think Apple knows it, and I think Google knows it. And so the question is, I believe from a capitalist standpoint, one of those, probably big G, or alphabet,
Starting point is 00:41:14 is waiting for this to blow over because there's a lot of money to be made, a lot of money to be made on Twitter. I think he would have another phone, not by to see but he would have another phone and that is not what apple would want america but i'm to get another phone how long does it take to get another phone fifty one out there that are making phones right now they're making phones for all these i think with a technology has
Starting point is 00:41:41 at his disposal i don't think it would take that long it would that long. It would not take a year to get it out. Probably wouldn't take it. This is what's been going viral right now. If you can show this on the screen, this is what everybody's been talking about. I think a Tesla phone would do well. I don't know about a Twitter phone. I think a Tesla phone designed by the engineers.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I think people would buy a Tesla phone. And it would be kind of sexy. Hey, what do you have out of Tesla phone? Well, Tesla already has the app. You can start your phone, you can program your car, you can do everything on that. So there's a lot going on. I, this is the same thing that happened like four years ago,
Starting point is 00:42:13 or whatever, three, four years ago in Georgia. If you remember, there was an abortion thing that were coming up, the heartbeat built, it was, Hollywood, all up in arms, because they love murdering children, so they love childhood sacrifice, but we can talk about that later. So, oh, we're gonna pull out,
Starting point is 00:42:25 we're not gonna film in Georgia anymore. So what happened? Nothing, nothing happened. Because Georgia has the number one industry right now for filming movies and TV. They are a complete sold-out. I know Dan Kathy, Chick-fil-A CEO. His studios are totally booked for the next two years.
Starting point is 00:42:40 100% booked. All these big $300 million movies go out there. They can screen communism, socialism, all they want. Like you said, they're still a capitalist business. They want to make money. They're gonna get a 30, 35% back from filming in Georgia. I got a $300 million action movie. I'm gonna get $100 million back.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Of course they're gonna stay in Georgia. It's insane. These are just idle threats. Trust me, all of a sudden we'll pass over. They're not gonna do anything. Cause they know down the long run, they're gonna lose their way. So wait a minute, so let me get the straight.
Starting point is 00:43:09 So I'm gonna play the devil's advocate and I'm gonna play only the paranoid survive. You're saying there's no way Apple drops the Twitter app. No way Apple drops the Twitter app off their iOS. You don't think they will. Tom, both of you guys, I don't think they will. I think it's a risky bet, baby. I think it's a very risky bet.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Cooler heads will prevail. They're gonna talk about this and go, this is a long, look what you just pointed out. Just now, they're gonna look at everything down the road and say, well, you know, that doesn't really add up first to lead because someone else gonna jump in and take this business away from us. So I think if Tim Cook's put in a corner,
Starting point is 00:43:44 does he like pull it and put them on probation and then say we have an agreement for this and then put it back? You know, I could see a head fake pat, I don't see Tim pulling it down permanently. So I'm gonna give you why he would and then I'm gonna give you why he won't. And then let's have this nice, good debate.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yeah, so I have a question for you on Elon. I can ask you before. Let me just go through this. You can ask a question about Elon. So here's why I believe he could. And this is the one thing nobody has paid attention to. Apple faces shortfall of six million iPhones. Okay, the new ones that came out the pros
Starting point is 00:44:19 because protests against COVID-19 restrictions are impacting production, reports say. So if you read this story on page six, and it talks about the six million shortfall, the tech giant has a factory in the Genjiu city located in the central Chinese province of Hennon, where a recent COVID-19 breakout occurred, Foxconn, the company that makes iPhones for Apple,
Starting point is 00:44:41 runs the factory. A person familiar with the operations inside, Genjiu factory, who requested to remain anonymous to a told Bloomberg, the estimated short form production could change. They added that it depends on how fast, fast, conkin co-ocks, workers back into the plant, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:44:59 OK, so if there is one word, we did a case study on my TikTok account. Very interesting. And we made this video yesterday. I'm gonna show you numbers, and I want you to tell me if this makes any sense. You ready? I'm gonna show you a case study.
Starting point is 00:45:14 This video is going out in a week or two. I didn't want to start a TikTok, because I knew what was going on with TikTok. And anything tied to China, I was not comfortable with. And people said, no, listen, by dance gotta be careful. I said, let me do a case study on TikTok and see if with China, I was not comfortable with. And people said, no, listen, by dance gotta be careful. I said, let me do a case study on TikTok and see if this thing works.
Starting point is 00:45:29 So we start uploading videos. All of a sudden a couple videos get 5 million views, 3 million views, 2 million, I was like, okay, cool. Motivation does fine, all this stuff does fine, couple things are doing fine. Then data, this is pure data for you to do case study. We looked at what's happened with my TikTok account the last two months versus prior to the two months. So we took two timelines. One was from June 7th of this year to August 5th. So try to track these numbers here. I know we don't have it there to see it. It's June 7th to August 5th. Tom, if you're tracking this...
Starting point is 00:46:03 Two months. Yes, to August 5th. And then we did August 5th to November 23rd. Okay. If you're tracking. August 5th to November 23rd. Which means August 5th to November 23rd, a couple of days ago. And then prior to that, we went June 7th to August 5th. June 7th to August 5th, I uploaded 264 clips on TikTok. Of the 264 clips uploaded on TikTok, we broke it down on four categories. How many of them got zero to 20,000 views? How many to get 20,000 to 100,000 views? How many got 100,000 to a million? And how many got over a million? Here's the numbers. Zero
Starting point is 00:46:37 to 20,000, 99 videos uploaded on TikTok. 2200, 11 videos. A hundred to a million, 45 and nine got over a million. And my TikTok account was small, 50,000 followers, 80,000 followers during this period. Then my TikTok account hits 260,000 followers and here's what's happened in the last two months. This is 722 videos last two months versus 264. Let's look at the data. Out of 722 videos, how many time you think got over 20,000 views? Well, if it was going to be the same, you should have had about 400 of them. Out of 720 clips, only two got over 20,000 views. 720 got zero, two 20,000 views. 720 got zero to 20,000 views.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Only one over a hundred thousand. Did you understand the number I just gave you guys? Seven. 22 only two went over 20,000 views. We're looking at this case study, Rao from India's giving me a message saying, what the heck is going on here? Then we found the bogey on when everything changed.
Starting point is 00:47:44 On August 5th, I uploaded a video criticizing China on TikTok. Oh, that's right. You did the rap thing, ZZ, not the guy for me. I uploaded the clip on China on TikTok. Yeah. Like this, everything just went boom. Boom. All the way down China. You can look at it, August 50 is what the date is. But here's a point. The point is, by the way, the same clips, the same clips we measured on Instagram, got 9.5 million views, got 9,500 views on TikTok. 6.8 million views, 3.8 million views, 2.9 million views,
Starting point is 00:48:16 2,000 views, 5,000 views, 3,000 views on TikTok, comparison Instagram to TikTok. So as much as Instagram is woke, TikTok is at a whole different level. The reason why I think Twitter could potentially do this, I mean, Apple could take Twitter down is the following reason. What is one of the scariest things that happened
Starting point is 00:48:35 after 9-11? What did George Bush and his... Is it part of a whole-in surgery? That's surgery. Yeah, my right, my, I'm out of TSA. I remember when I was one of the thing. What did they come up with outside of TSA?
Starting point is 00:48:46 They came out with something called a Patriot Act. Okay, what a Patriot Act really say to us. What can they do? That they can look at all your stuff. That can do what? They can look at what? Your phones, your computers. That they need my permission to investigate into.
Starting point is 00:48:57 They can do anything, right? They don't have your, they don't need your permission specifically. It was two things to go into your cell phone records and also to subpoena email suppliers. So now, anything that you've, whoever you've dialed and talked to, whoever you've emailed, they can get the list. Let me tell you, if Patriot Act was for America, what TikTok and China is doing is for the
Starting point is 00:49:18 world. And if TikTok and China has the kind of data, what it can track what's on your phone, you're given an permission, Rogan read this on his podcast and people were blown away. That thing got a few billion views. Everybody's sitting there. Oh, I tried to read the privacy report. Oh, I tried to read the privacy report saying they can look at your finger.
Starting point is 00:49:33 What movements you make on your phone. TikTok has the right to measure that on your phone on other apps you're logging on to. It's TikTok is Patriot Act on steroids. And if Apple drops Twitter after app, it has to do with TikTok, it has to do with China. That's how all of these things get tied up. On the flip side of it, I'm a Tim Cook fan, okay?
Starting point is 00:49:55 I don't know if a lot of people know or not. Tim Cook is a, he wouldn't say this publicly, but if you've read about him and if you've read books on him, I've read a lot of different material and books on the sky. He's a gay Republican, okay? He's not a Democrat. He is a Republican. He grew up in a very conservative family. He ended up becoming gay himself but he is somebody that fiscally Obama didn't like some of the stuff that he did when they went to him tell us what happened with the phone in San Bernardino says I'm not going to be doing it. They didn't like the fact that it wasn't all the information.
Starting point is 00:50:25 So now we're gonna find out if Tim Cook's backbone, if he's gonna stand up to China bully and him because he's gradually moving production away from China to India and other places. We're gonna learn a lot about Tim Cook over the next three to six months. I don't think it's gonna be 12 to 24 months. I think it's gonna be three to six months. If they move, Twitter off the app, China and TikTok are more powerful than people think. If he doesn't, Tim Cook is a G and we're gonna find that out next three to six months. That's my opinion, I may be wrong, thoughts.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I'm with you at a certain level and I step back and I just look at how quickly, because you have to remember what this does. This, if Tesla made a phone, if, you know, must make a phone under any other name or calls it the Twitter phone, it doesn't matter. It becomes the destination for all things canceled. And that is 25% of the hard citizenry of the United States and up to 40% of those
Starting point is 00:51:31 that identify firm conservative. And so be careful what you wish for. Be careful what you wish for. He could be creating, do you understand what I'm saying? Just this ability to suck the air out of the room. Oh, we've been canceled, and this been canceled. Well, then all those social media things that we're trying to be built.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Remember, they got themselves canceled off of, what was it, parlor? And they got Amazon to turn off their servers. There's a lot of things. I think that this opens a floodgates for like a third force. And I don't think anybody wants that to happen. Not on the left. They just want it to be shut up.
Starting point is 00:52:08 They don't want it to be the enabler of a third alternative. Everybody forgets that Elon Musk wants to turn Twitter into WeChat. And WeChat is the Chinese app where you can order a car, pay money, social media, order your food, do your drive, like it's everything. Yeah, these are known as super apps.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Exactly. That's what he wants to turn. Thank you as well. Yes, that's what he wants to turn Twitter into, right? He will eventually supply the everything app on his own. Tesla phone. Did we get a tweet yesterday where he presented his six business plan slides? Anybody see that?
Starting point is 00:52:42 Yeah, I he tweeted. Did you see that? Of course I did. Of course I did. Guess what? Pull it up. Pull it up and show. That didn't take long. By the way, check this out. Pull it up and show. This is three weeks and he had a more aggressive strategy than anybody else on the market. Zoom out a little bit. So if you look at this data, we're recruiting new sign ups are at an all-time high. User active minutes,
Starting point is 00:53:02 all-side and all-time high. There's one of the data that you really have to see. Keep going. Passers- Daily active users. H-Speech impressions are lower. By the way, you see those two spikes. You see those two spikes. Can you zoom in a little bit on those two spikes?
Starting point is 00:53:17 You see those two spikes since you bought the company how it went up to H-Speech impressions. 10 million and everybody started saying, I'm noticing the N-word and this, this, that, very high on Twitter, guess what? Do you know what it was? It was 1,500 fake bots doing all those things. And I look out, dropped immediately down
Starting point is 00:53:34 because people said, because he said eight bucks a month, those fake bots gradually disappear. So 1,500 accounts did those 10 million dirty tweets to get him to be looked at as this is a guy that's using all these end words. LeBron James, I'm concerned with what's going on with Twitter and all this. Oh, okay. These are things that people fall for.
Starting point is 00:53:52 And look at how hate speeches right now. At the lowest expense before he bought it. Obviously during the period since he bought it, it's dropped back down. So a lot of the noise, maybe Kevin, on what you're saying, with all this hate that started and now what happened four years ago with Atlanta, Georgia, and all these movies with the folks at Chick Fla, we're going to see what's going to happen with it. It does settles, or with the Tim Cook and Apple's going to go after and targeting these
Starting point is 00:54:14 guys because of China. No one knows. Reason why there may be a possibility of that happening? This is a story from Fox Business. Apple restricts air drop, file sharing in China that protests have been used. You know what the timeline is? Under the latest software update, iOS 16.1.1, iPhone owners in China can only use AirDrop to receive files, images and videos from none, other non-contacts for 10 minutes, according to 9-5 Mac. Prot Protest intensified in China after fire
Starting point is 00:54:45 at residential building in a western city of Yoramki, left 10 people dead on 30. But they welded the door shut. Yeah, once that 10 minute window lapses, air drop shifts back to context only automatically. Is that 10 minutes period or 10 minutes at a time? Look at the power. 10 minutes at a time.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I mean, you have a break. It's like 10 minutes you can't do another one. So if I'm sitting there like air jobbing, just look what's going to happen, look what happened, look what happened, look what happened. No, no, no, every 10 minutes. Every 10 minutes prevents things from going viral and other people seeing it.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I mean, listen, China's shown the game to its people in China and Photoshop and editing sites that show people not wearing masks at the freaking world cup. People have to really realize what's going on with this country. They don't believe in what you and I believe in. And when I say you and I, I don't mean you and I politically, 95% of people, the way you live your life, China's government doesn't believe you ought to live your life, the way
Starting point is 00:55:44 you're living your life. You don't share common values in principle. They don't think highly of us. They don't think we're the freedom and all that stuff that we stand for. We fight for it. They don't stand for that stuff. Well, the government of China certainly believes in capitalism, but they rule their people under the banner of communism.
Starting point is 00:55:59 But they love making money and gaining power over the financial gains they've gained, not only from America, but from all over the world. So, you know, you talk about the shadow band you got on TikTok, I mean, I got it on Facebook before they took me down. And that's what they do. I mean, I was also, and I was getting a million views and it's down to 500, then it was down to 100,000, and it's down to 50. I mean, it was just like you could see it happening right before my eyes and I'm going, wow. So much for free at misspeach And I think we never had total freedom of speech in this country anyway, it's just gotten worse Yeah, I don't know if it happened to us on any other I think I've not I've I myself can't say any of that has happened on any Other apps personally except for tiktok I see everything else was about competing in them I know it's happened to other people And I know a lot of people like yourself
Starting point is 00:56:46 that stuff was taken down, viewership went down, et cetera, et cetera. But I haven't seen it happen with us. Even YouTube, some people are like, well, let me tell you your shadow bound on YouTube. I don't agree. I don't think it is. I think we have to fight in a market place
Starting point is 00:56:57 to get the message out there. I'm very confident competing with other people on YouTube. Totally get it. Our content's got to get better. We got to get better, but with TikTok, comparing to other apps, it's very obvious that there's one word you can't use with TikTok, and you cannot criticize China on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:57:14 You just can't. You know how they say the pen is miter than the sword, right? Well, these days social media is the ultimate pen, right? I mean, that's where you can express anything you want to say, thoughts, emojis, memes, videos, you know, all that. I had a very enlightening experience at this freedom forum, Gary Casperoff, greatest chess player ever, spoke at the vault a year ago,
Starting point is 00:57:37 invited me down to the freedom forum. And at the freedom forum, it's all just massive freedom advocates, right? From all over the world, you know, Chinese-weagers, and, you know, Iranian, the lady, forgive me her name with the hair, the one who's everywhere these days, just complete advocates of freedom. And the most poignant example was they set up a, like a booth, like a massive booth, probably the size of this room, and they called it the Firewall Cafe.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And basically, it's sort of exposed what the Chinese narrative, like if you type something, like let's do an example right now. In Google, if you type in she, President, she, and Winnie the Pooh, right? Because people say he kind of looks like that, whatever. This will pop up, right?
Starting point is 00:58:28 I don't know if you can see that. Just stupid images, right? Like, if you've been put in Trump, you know, images will pop up. But in this Chinese firewall, the firewall cafe, if you put that in into the internet in China, no images of Winnie the Pooh will show up whatsoever. So the way that they just basically segregate
Starting point is 00:58:51 any type of content that would be alarming or of anything of disinformation or anything against the narrative, they show it side by side at this firewall cafe. And for the first time, I'm like, oh wow, this is what America is. As much as there's shadow banning and all that, in China, it's completely blocked. And we're seeing what's happening now with these riots and protests. And I don't know where that's going. They did it on the top gun movie, right? They made it. Tom Cruise had a jacket on, they had the Taiwan flag or something. It was correct. There was a flag that they disagreed with. They had to go through every single frame and
Starting point is 00:59:29 remove it before they would let the movie out because they're bound on what China is telling them to do because China owns, I think, basically half the movie theaters in America too, but that's a big market for American movies. So you see the Chinese protests right now, they're just holding up a white piece of paper, right? Like, you've seen this, it's just a blank sheet of paper, right? What is the significance of that? Do you know what that is exactly? Well, they can't write anything that's against the government, so they just pulled it up as a sign of saying we are against the government. Ah, yeah. Very interesting. So, so what you're talking about is clashes in Shanghai as COVID protests flare across China, hundreds of demonstrators and police clashes in Shanghai
Starting point is 01:00:05 and Sunday night as protests over China's stringent COVID restrictions flared for third day and spread to several cities in the wake of deadly apartment fire in the country's four of far west. The wave of civil disobedience is unprecedented and mainly China, by the way, just to see what happened yesterday, reporter asks Steve Kerr, hey, so coach,
Starting point is 01:00:26 what do you think about what's going on in China right now with people protesting and asking for freedom? He says, oh, I don't know. I don't see you asking me questions about America where somebody comes and holds us down with an AKF with a semi-automatic weapon. How can we don't ask me those questions? I don't see you doing this and I don't see you doing that.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I'm sitting there saying, man. Does the NBA is paying a salary? The Chinese is paying a salary. There's no question about it. That's the stuff that they do, which by the way, that kind of stuff will go viral on TikTok because they love when Americans criticize Americans. Sure, of course.
Starting point is 01:00:58 They love, if you want to blow up on TikTok, let me give you a game plan. Go on TikTok as an American and trash Americans, trash marriage, trash, you know, strong value, trash traditional values, trash any of that stuff, and watch how all of a sudden you blow up on TikTok because TikTok's algorithms will favor you trashing any of the Western philosophies. They love that. That stuff is TikTok's bread and butter if you do that.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Well, it's pretty crazy what's happening all at the same time, right? Obviously, we remember what happened in 2020 in the protests and the riots and everything. And it was media coverage galore. But look what's happening all over the world right now. If you look at China in these protests, if you look at Iran and these protests, if you look at Iran and these protests,
Starting point is 01:01:46 if you look at Russia and these protests over the war in Ukraine, I mean, these people are what true definition of courage really looks like. Because they know that they go and they speak against the government, they may never be seen again, period. Okay, and that's the difference between these types of countries.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Let it away. And these authoritarian regimes and America. You know, our friend Vinny did a bit basically saying, you could do literally anything in America. You could talk shit against America. You could do all sorts of crazy nonsense. You could do this and that and that and be it a feminist or whatever, nothing's gonna really happen to you.
Starting point is 01:02:25 But you see what's happening like with the women in Iran, basically trying to just fight for the fact that they don't want to wear the hijab. What's the number 15,000 people are apparently going to be executed? Execute it. Okay? Russia, they did an expose where they cover the face of a group of people. And they were basically talking about, do you think that people are gonna really try
Starting point is 01:02:48 to speak up against Putin? Raise your hand if you think that anything will actually happen, nobody raised their hand. In China, everyone's wearing masks, I don't think necessarily because of the COVID thing because they wanna hide their face for the whole social credit score, but the scariest thing ever in these countries
Starting point is 01:03:04 is when a van pulls up and You're you're the guy, you know protesting and all of a sudden 5 10 cops just throw you in the van and That's it. Yeah, where are you going at that point gone forever? And I think all of that you're saying is more of a reason why What's happening with Twitter with Elon Musk is necessary. Very much so. I think the next move is he's doing what many concerns and he's not even, I wouldn't even put him as a conservative. I don't think he's a conservative. Elon Musk? I don't think Elon Musk's a conservative. No, it's not a conservative. I put Elon Musk as a libertarian, fiscally conservative
Starting point is 01:03:42 guys what I put him as. He's not a Christian, he's not a, I don't see him as a guy that's gonna, you know, sit and not they're saying, you need to go to church and pray. I don't see that as a mosque. I don't see any of that stuff. I think he's a very, very one of those minds that's just thinking things and a different one.
Starting point is 01:03:57 He's a banker. Yeah, but at the same time, but at the same time, he's doing what Republicans and conservatives didn't do the last 30 years. Republicans and conservatives lost the war for universities, for everyone conservative professor, 13 liberals, you lost the war of media, you lost the war of newspapers,
Starting point is 01:04:18 you lost the war of, what else you want? You lost the war of movies, you lost the war of Hollywood, you lost the war of persuasion, you lost the world persuasion you lost the world virtual governments you've lost the war and the first victory they've had in many years as a guy who's not even a conservative buys twitter says i think
Starting point is 01:04:38 speech should be free that's it and here's what i want to do so there should be more examples of that somebody needs to buy the next hulu, the next any of those things and start competing in the Hollywood space. Now obviously you have guys on the conservative side like the folks at Chick-fil-A that are investing into it and they're building a massive.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I think the campus they built is, the studio they build is massive. I've seen videos of it. I've seen pictures of it, but they have. Oh yeah, I mean, they're, like I could tell, they're completely booked for the next couple of years and filming movies, completely booked out. Chick-fil-A campus?
Starting point is 01:05:13 Yeah. Yeah, that's one of the crusade of what they have to compete in Hollywood marketplace. This was my question for you for Elon back to Twitter. Number one, I don't think this is my opinion. Twitter as it currently exists, just being sort of the platform where you can just, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:32 what is it, 120 characters, whatever it is. As is, is a, is the type of business model or type of app that's gonna blow up. Meaning I totally agree with what Tyler's basically saying, that if he turns it into a weChat type of app that's going to blow up. Meaning, I totally agree with what Tyler's basically saying, that if he turns it into a weChat type of thing where it's this all, all in one encompassing type of app where you can bank and get an Uber and all that kind of stuff, I think that's the future of Twitter.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I don't think it has sustainable as it is right now, but that's one point. Here's my question to you Pat. How many companies is Elon Musk running at this point, right? Between obviously Twitter, Tesla, Spakes, Sets, NuraLink, Starlink, the boring company, the tonal company that he does, OpenAI. I'm just, these are things that are coming to mind.
Starting point is 01:06:18 How does he, what kind of bandwidth? NuraLink, what kind of bandwidth do you need to have? I mean, you're a guy who's running multiple companies. I see how much, how you're divvying up your schedule. Like, I have a hard time just balancing two companies plus the personal life. How does someone like Elon Musk balance all of this? I think a long time ago, he chose career over like priority
Starting point is 01:06:41 in life to him. He feels his cause is more worthy of him going up against these types of enemies versus, I don't know if father is number one on his list. I don't know if husband is number one on his list. I don't know if those things are number one on his list. I think he scenes himself as a warrior, crusader, genius, he's building what he's building.
Starting point is 01:07:03 He does believe in pro-creation because he's got a lot of kids. He's got like 10 kids or something. So his kids are his businesses. So if you treated your businesses as your kids, because kids are very taxing, the very demanding. So if you have four kids and you've got four businesses, it is very hard to raise four kids.
Starting point is 01:07:22 It is very hard to raise four businesses. You have to kind of pick and choose which one you're gonna be doing. When he says, he's at the office seven days a week, 18 hours a day, 24 hours a day, he's sleeping there. What he's saying is, I'm also not spending time with the kids. I'm spending time with my kids that's Twitter. That's this, that's that.
Starting point is 01:07:36 So you can do that if you choose to treat your companies like your kids, and that's what he's doing. But you're basically sacrificing a relationship with your kids. Everything in life you're gonna have to, at one point, on a run of obsession, you're sacrificing. All these athletes we admire that you follow, Kobe Bryant sacrificed, personal time with his family, 20 years of playing 82 games, 41 on the road,
Starting point is 01:08:01 playoffs, Olympics, you think that's a peaceful life. Military generals, General Mattis, we admire 35-year service. You know, he's in, you know, war for, you think you're, you're a good father? Oh, yeah, I haven't seen my kid. Nine years out of the last 18 years, my kid was, you know, at the house, I was at war.
Starting point is 01:08:20 I was on, you think that's, you put that as a great father. What do you, how do you describe that? So the definition of all the These things it's very to him his mind is if these generals are at war doing what they're doing I'm simply doing my war in business competing against these guys and I see my kids where I take them place and we have a Good time, but I'm like the general that's at war. I don't see my kids for a year and a half for a year I see myself saying is that I think that's his processing and I don't think he sees anything wrong with that. And I think a lot of people that have competed at that level, at that crazy level, say, yeah,
Starting point is 01:08:50 that's what you gotta do, you know? When you run a for office, like John F. Kennedy ran for office when he was how old? Early 40s? What do you think his life looked like? He was the youngest president. No 43, how old was the guy when he became president? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:03 42, 42, 43. 43, younger severer. I mean Obama and Clinton are right behind him, right? Right at 47 or 40, it's something like that. president of forty three how old was the guy when he became president i don't forty three forty two forty three young as ever coming to obama and clinton are right behind him right right at forty seven or forty a something like that what do you think you're doing you can't pay me for two years you don't think your kids and second-grade he has kids that are under his desk the pictures those are not twenty-year-old kids these are you know what he thinks when you're halloween would start then so
Starting point is 01:09:19 watching to go out there doing movies for this guy was insistily for uh... how long were you insistently shooting the three weeks? Okay, that's three weeks away from 1719 and a 20 year old. Yeah, that's, that's, you know, so these, these types of performers at that level, there comes with a sacrifice. But the, the average person will look at that and say, oh my gosh, that's terrible. But the peak, peak performers at the table sit there and say, yeah, that's kind of what you gotta do.
Starting point is 01:09:47 It's, by the way, neither side can sell it to the other side. It's purely a choice. Neither side can sell it to the other side. And that's a great point. I think on behalf of Americans and on behalf of humanity, I think we're all thankful that he is sacrificing his family life. But, you know, you do see these stories that one of his kids came out and disowned his father and
Starting point is 01:10:08 he's not my father and he might be some sort of trans situation with one of the kids. I don't know what that story is, but you're familiar with the story, right? One of the kids basically disavowed. So these are the types of sacrifices you're making that your kids won't even love you or those disavow you or disown you because you have such lofty goals. There is risks and rewards to everything you're doing. Well, in my defense, we're homeschool advocates. So when I go on the road, the kids always travel.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Certainly when they're younger. My daughter's only one left in school now at 17. My other 18-year-old is graduated in my 21-year-old's doing his own thing, too. But with growing up, they were always on the road with me. So I made a big difference. And that's what, it wasn't the reason we did homeschooling, we did homeschooling because our public school system suck
Starting point is 01:10:51 and my wife wanted to do it. So, yeah, that's her book right there, right there, your kids. But it's, she's a homeschool advocate, travels a country doing it. And I think for us, it worked out quite great. So I was with my kids quite a bit of the time. Kudos to you guys. Yeah, kudos to you. And I'm assuming you guys are close to each other. Oh, yeah. The quite great. So I was with my kids quite a bit of the time. Kudos to you guys. Yeah, Kudos to you guys.
Starting point is 01:11:05 And I'm assuming you guys are close to each other, all the whole family. Oh yeah, very much. That takes a lot of work. By the way, when you say that about Elon's kids, realize that on the conservative side, the best president that looked at the last 100 years is who, who is the...
Starting point is 01:11:20 Reagan? Okay, so if you look at Reagan as the best president, his oldest biological son, doesn't agree with anything he stood for. Stonch atheists. Stonch atheists and the son that he mapped that he adopted, Michael Reagan. 100% is loyal to Ronald Reagan as his father.
Starting point is 01:11:42 So, you know, there's a risk with parenting. There's, because all it takes is for one kid to say that, one time you said this, and then for the rest of their lives, they will go up against anything you say, they wanna do the opposite. There's a risk. It's a very, very tough job. Being a parent is very risky, very risky.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Kevin, can I ask you a question regarding your book and homeschooling? So, you know, no secret that public schools, especially, I mean, in Miami here, like, you know, especially high school, not exactly the best play right there. But why do you choose homeschooling over private school? Like Pat has done a very, very hardcore vetting process. So if you, Pizdoch, for the types of schools he wants,
Starting point is 01:12:23 his kids to go to, right Pat? I mean, you've gone through this process and you've chosen the best of the best private schools because A, you can afford it, but B, because they teach the values and principles that you want your kids learning. For sure, what made you go down the home school path rather than the private school? Well, I grew up in Minnesota. I had friends who were doing it on the right, buddies that they got married in their 20s. I got married in my 30s, so there's a whole different road
Starting point is 01:12:46 for me, but they were homeschooling their kids. And so, there's a lot of questions I had about that as well. And I saw the way their kids turned out. The kids are awesome. And they're great with adults, they're great with, you know, they don't have to go through the ridiculous bullying and the whole click thing and stuff like that. And they're awesome with everybody.
Starting point is 01:13:00 And I see it with my kids as well. My wife just said, my oldest at the time was in second grade and we thought we were in a better school district because we were out of LA County, we're up in Ventura County in California, which is supposed to be more conservative, more better. Same problems in those schools as well. My wife said enough of this. She goes, I'm going to dive into this. And she talked to friends that I knew that we're at the homeschooling and she just went for it, full on. and she is like a hardcore homeschool advocate. Travels a country, this is one of her books right there on it,
Starting point is 01:13:27 and she speaks across the country constantly on it. And actually, she's speaking at Mar-Lago this weekend about homeschooling there, too. Is there like a Obama putting an event over there or at Mar-Lago? Not Obama's not, no. Is this the next one says? I thought maybe Obama's the one.
Starting point is 01:13:43 He probably won't be there. But anyway, I'd love to tell you my meeting with him one time. So, Obama? Oh yeah. But it was, it was just something that for us worked really well and also for the travel that we did with it. It just made more sense. And one thing, one blessing of COVID,
Starting point is 01:14:00 you mentioned one thing, one thing, what COVID, people started waking up to see how horrible our school system is, because it sucks. I don't know what we rank worldwide. 27th, that's something pretty bad right now. And when we dove into this, we were just happy to be part of it, COVID. Good Lord, two million more kids now
Starting point is 01:14:19 are being homeschooled, because people said enough of this, not using public schools as a babysitting service for our kids. Look at school and honor in schools. And then, you know, the whole mass-waring in kids, too, that just cracked me up. And Fauci, do you see what he's somebody asked him about? Do you know the origin of this now? Can we finally figure that out? And then they, you know, he wouldn't talk about that. Then they asked him about the mass-waring thing. And he said, I'm not here to cover such trivialities. I'm here to say people's lives. Okay. Yes, that's what you're here for. The greatest war criminal probably ever
Starting point is 01:14:47 in the history of America. But I'm not making that. But then he came back and he admitted that there is a deleterious effect on the nation's kids because of the lockdown in terms of the educational development that happened there. And so he came out and said it, but then he said, but don't blame me for it, it's not my fault. It's like, come on, dude. Come on, dude. Yeah, yo, and
Starting point is 01:15:10 Amnesty, I don't think history is going to favor that guy very well because no, it's just not going to happen with that guy. There's going to be eventually a movie we're going to watch and you're going to sit there and say, wow, what a dirty guy. I think a lot of people are going to say that about him. They're trying to protect him because he helped him get rid of somebody in office that none of them liked. And the swamp didn't like. I had a couple guys here on the podcast last week on the JFK 59 year anniversary of his assassination.
Starting point is 01:15:41 One of them was James the Eugenio, and another one was another fellow that we had on have a hard time pronouncing his last name Gregory something David Martin David Montagin and we have one of two other people one of them was Ernst Tittivitz and Both of them were best friends Paul Gregory. Yeah Paul Gregory both of them were best friends with the shooter Oswald one in Russia And the other one in Fort Worth and they were best friends so it's very interesting kind of I'm always been fascinated about this JFK assassination and then obviously he's a staunch democrat supporter of junef Kennedy all this stuff
Starting point is 01:16:15 it would be a republican today yeah who would be a republican yeah let's listen to his nineteen sixteen o'erations so j Eugenio is sitting here, and I really enjoy talking to him, because I've had Oliver Stone as well, and Oliver Stone also a big JFK, neither one of them like Trump. I said, who killed JFK? Is it fair to say that the swamp killed JFK? He said, yeah, I said, who do you think killed Trump
Starting point is 01:16:43 in a different way? Also the swamp. Stock, they can't say anything. Do you think killed Trump in a different way? Also the swamp. Stock, they can't say anything. So do two have a lot in common? No, no, no. There's not even clothes. There's this.
Starting point is 01:16:53 I said, John F. Kennedy was part of the NRA. He was a proud NRA card member. This guy was a second amendment guy. This guy was lowering the taxes guy. This guy, what are you talking about? Well, what this guy stood for? So I think, you know, where we're going today with all the, you know, things that we're facing
Starting point is 01:17:08 and seeing what's going on, guys like this, history is not gonna favor guys like this. He's gonna be exposed. I can't wait to watch the movie. I'd be so curious, you know, who ends up playing him an older version of him. I think Joe Peshik could pull it off, but I don't know, maybe somebody else could play him
Starting point is 01:17:24 to see what this guy's story is all about. Everybody I've spoken to that's more closely with them. Back in the days in the 80s, he was always a very ambitious guy, but I haven't heard a lot of good things about this guy. I think they're going to do a movie. They will do a movie. I don't want to. You're right about Joe's been a friend for 35 years. He's just a startup guy. And he's a conservative. And he didn't want to go do the Irishman, but he got talked into it and went there. And De Niro, every day, was a bashed in Trump. And he just kind of went back and forth with him and saying, what's wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:17:51 Why is such a child about this? So it is interesting to Trump because I keep asking my liver friends, what policies did you not like of his? They can't name policy. Oh, I just hate his ego. Did you like the fact we're energy independent? Do you like the fact that black and Hispanic unemployment lowest ever?
Starting point is 01:18:07 We had a safe border. I mean, it's amazing to me how they just feed in with this media frenzy just to go after the guy because he wasn't a DC guy. He was a guy that went in there as a business guy and said the country needs to be fixed. And I agree with guys like that. We need more people to run this country
Starting point is 01:18:24 that aren't politicians now i mean that's a great transition into which has happened this last week washington examiner page nine i'll read the story with uh... uh... musk coming out insane how uh... a lot musk says he will be back uh... trump rival he will back a ronda ronda santa's in twenty twenty four she's signaled he would be a place uh... his support behind ron the santa's should he chose to challenge president on trump to be republican nominee for
Starting point is 01:18:52 the white house he made a common response to question from a twitter user asking if he would vote for the santa's the test on twitter cio reminded users that he was a significant supporter for the obama administration he said in the thread that he reluctantly voted for Joe Biden over Trump in 2020 and seemingly regrets it. My preference for 2024 presidency is someone sensible and centrist. I hope that would be the case for the Biden administration, but have been disappointed
Starting point is 01:19:19 so far. Musk first suggested he was leaning toward supporting the Florida governor in June. When he was asked by a Twitter user from whom he would like to support in 24, 24 responded. The Santas, he prefers the comment by saying it would still be determined whether he would end up voting Republican or not. But this story happens and then you get this weekend, somebody shows up at Marlago, unannounced. What what's his name let me see what page the story is on can you ask what the next point nip contest those guys show up right at the bottom of the same page
Starting point is 01:19:52 you were just reading page nine is it bottom of page nine yeah this is a f and night mayor donald trump's team scrambling after former president controversial dinner with uh... white supremacist nip flintes a member of donald trump's team is calling the former president's dinner with Kanye West and renowned white supremacists and Holocaust denied Nick Fuentes as a F and Nightmare as they scrambled
Starting point is 01:20:11 to run damage control for his 2024 campaign. The source who served as a long-term advisor to the embatical politician chose to remain anonymous to voting gangering him or being thought of as the the soil. Anyways, would you think about the whole visit from Nick Fuentes and Connie West going to Marlago? What are your thoughts on that? Honestly, I didn't I this the first time I heard of this. So I don't know if I have anything worth while you talk.
Starting point is 01:20:37 I don't know. What do you think about it? Look, um, this was not a good look for Donald Trump. Okay. So, um, it Trump's been known that if someone likes This was not a good look for Donald Trump. Okay, so Trump's been known that if someone likes me, I like them, right? Like that sort of thing. If he says nice things about me, I like them now, right?
Starting point is 01:20:55 But this was the exact opposite of a positive direction for Trump. I mean, the bottom line is you have people that were so staunchly in his camp. You see what Ann Coulter just said? No. Ann Coulter was, if you recall, of course.
Starting point is 01:21:11 The first person to accurately, on Bill Maher, on Bill Maher. She was the first person to accurately, they laughed at her off stage. Everywhere you dumb bitch, you don't know nothing. It turns out she was right. She is now basically saying, I am so done with this guy.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Read the news. Ann C and culture's saying this. Then you've got, you know, the whole Fox Murdoch situation, Murdoch's done with him, right? There's this groundswell of people just saying, like, look man, you've done some good stuff, you've done some bad stuff. Time to exit stage left.
Starting point is 01:21:42 And when I say that, I don't mean like the 30% of America that is his staunch base. I mean, everyone else. And that's the problem in this country right now is that 30% of the, look right here, right wing pundit, and cold to dismiss his rhino chum says, he's so done.
Starting point is 01:21:57 And you've got the McConnell's over the world and you've got the Bill Barr's over the world and the VP, Mike Pence of the world, all basically saying, look, Don, thank you for everything we're kind of over you. And then who's everybody, you know, the latest flavor of the day is everybody's on DeSantis right now. And this isn't even my opinion, who cares what Adam has to say. I don't think he's the flavor of the day.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I think he's growing because of his performances of the government. True that. But it's fair with that. Correct. because of his performances in government. True that, but it's fair with that. Correct, but the reason why he's in the national media is because he's the counterpart or the better alternative to Trump. That's sort of the how the media is portraying him. But forget about what Adam thinks,
Starting point is 01:22:36 forget about Republicans think, what you need to focus on is what independence think. We all just saw what happened in the midterms. You know, Republicans are supposed to run away with this thing. thing were they not like it was supposed to be a blood bath what they call it a red wave It was like a red teardrop because Independence broke overwhelmingly for the Democrats and if you want to win in this country We say this all the time. It's still shocking But but but here's my point if your boat was counted
Starting point is 01:23:04 Don't be shocked if it happens again, right? And if you want to, like, for me. But how bad is it have to get? I mean, under Biden, how bad is the country have to get for somebody to go out? I don't know, I'm not really in like the complaining business. I'm in like just looking at the facts business. Right now they just did polling.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Like do you want Trump to run again? 80% of Republicans said yes. 90% of Democrats said no, right? Obviously clear, but 60% of independent said no. That's the number you need to look at. So if you lose is, don't be like, wow, what don't you get it? We're in energy independent.
Starting point is 01:23:43 There's this clamoring for basically American saying, thank you so much. Please exit stage left. So if he loses again in 2024, because you'll likely get the nomination unless there's something goes terribly wrong, you already have the answer there. But back to the Nick Fuentes thing.
Starting point is 01:23:59 I don't know Nick Fuentes, you know, I don't know much of his content, but we talked about a narrative. We talked about the narrative, even when we talked about Patrick Mahomes the other day, like his narrative is he's gonna win the big game and that's exactly what happened when he played against the Chargers.
Starting point is 01:24:13 The narrative of this guy, Nick Fuentes, is that he's a white nationalist and a Holocaust denier. So that's a type of person that you're having at Marilago. And there's no vetting process. So just Kanye shows up like, hey, Kanye here, not sure if you've heard what I'm doing in the news these days, but pretty much hate the Jews trying to go deathcon three on the Jews. By the way, I'm going to bring a holocaust denier with me. We're going to hang out with you for a little while, Trump. And now Trump's walking
Starting point is 01:24:40 this back. And last point, I say that you, my friend that I've referenced all the time, he's the biggest Trump Maga guy in my life. Joe, you know I'm talking about him. He texts me other day, he goes, I'm officially done with Don Trump. I said, what do you talk? Like when I say Kevin, if you think you're a hardcore Trump supporter, he's going to make you look like a vocal liberal. That's how hardcore he is. He said, yeah, I can no longer support this guy who's basically hanging around with Holocaust deniers. So this is when you're losing guys like that, that's not a good sign. Yeah, let me read you what Trump said here. So I help a seriously trouble man who just happened to be black, Yeh, Kanye West, who has been decimated in his business and virtually
Starting point is 01:25:24 everything else, and it has always been good to me by allowing his request for meeting at Mar-Lago alone so that I can give him very much needed advice. He shows up with three people, two of which I don't know the other political person who I haven't seen in years. I told them don't run for office a total waste of time, can't win fake news when viral, went crazy. So, that's the response now you know but he's so he's calling Kanye troubled great and by
Starting point is 01:25:51 the way Kanye was on temple yesterday right was it yesterday or day before you walked off he walked off because he went and talked to him about Jews again yeah he walked off within the first 10 minutes and who was on it my my was on it and Nick was on it so that's true to the three of them that are together going around talking about what they're talking about. I don't know, look, here's a couple things that is not a good idea. In a marketplace, whether you like it or not,
Starting point is 01:26:16 you're gonna be judged by who's around you, okay? That's how it is in business, that's how it is in sports, that's how it is in everything you do. If you come up and say, your campaign is you, Milo and Nick Fuentes, I had a meeting with Milo once, six years ago, five years ago, I don't know what timeline it was, I don't know, I was in Orlando or somewhere like that
Starting point is 01:26:36 and we met up and we had a conversation together about his father, I wanna say, I think we even have a video, we never went live with it, about his upbringing, how his relationship was with his upbringing, how's the relationship with what is that? That's where my curiosity was with Milo.
Starting point is 01:26:48 I don't know who Nick is, but for a Trump, you got to know who's coming to your place and you got to filter those people out. And for Kanye, you wanted to run at a time like this and you're going around walking off of sets. Anytime somebody walks off a set, I don't know if that's shown any kind of strength where you're at.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Wasn't a good look. Did you actually see the podcast on what happened, what led to him getting off? Like, did you watch the whole thing the first time? Well, I watched, I watched the clip of him walking off and seeing him walking off the ground. No, I didn't get a chance to see it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:20 But, so, we're talking about a couple of different things here, but all the stars are aligning with Kanye this guy Nick Fuentes coming to Trump So it just seems to me like if we can go to Kanye for a second like What is he trying to prove here? Like okay, you have a beef with certain people in The music space or in the business world. Who happened to be Jewish? Believe me, I'm Jewish.
Starting point is 01:27:46 It's not like I'm getting these phone calls to discuss Kanye's label. It's not all Jews are painted in this broad brush. These are these people you're doing business with. And the reason you're doing business with them is because they probably invented the company. Like they forgot that Jews, you might know this better than me, Kevin, invented Hollywood. They invented stand, it's not like they just were plucked out, all right that Jews, you might know this better than me, Kevin, invented
Starting point is 01:28:05 Hollywood. They invented stand. It's not like they just were plucked out. All right, Jews, you run it. The Warner Brothers. They started the business. Shout out to Brian Callan for informing me of all this stuff. But like, you're like, what's your beef? What's your point? You want to expose the people that started the company that happened to be the people that that you have a beef with. But so Kanye, if there's anything I could say about Kanye, musical genius no doubt, but we talked about his blind spots, narcissists, not able to just basically heat advice.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Who's in your ear? Stuff that we talk about all the time here. But you're basically saying, yeah, I've got myself in all this hot water, whether you agree with it or not, he's in hot water. And you're saying, let me go bring this white Christian nationalist, white supremacist, what he's labeled as,
Starting point is 01:28:54 Nick Fuentes, around with me everywhere now. Let me take him to Mar-a-Lago and destroy my relationship with Trump. Let me bring him on podcasts. And basically, if you're this guy, Nick Fuentes, and Connie wants to take you all around, what are you going to say? Of course. Sign me up, bro. My name's all over the world. But I tell you, I tell you one thing as well. And there's certain labels that, that, that, that, that, that, that hurts, it's career-ending labels, just so you know, anti-Semite, you know, racist, a white supremacist, a white nationalist, a pito, a, at any of this,
Starting point is 01:29:31 right? These labels are being dropped, a Nazi, they're being dropped left and right, and you just big it. These are very powerful labels that people put on you. It's an incredible strategy to do with anybody, because immediately 99% of people who don't know who that guy is, they're gonna be like, oh, that's what he is done. I'm moving on. He's all this.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Hey, misogynist, done. I'm not talking to you. I'm gonna, you know, doesn't have to be proof at all. Yeah, so, so simple. To me, in that part, I've never watched a single piece of content of Nick for how many times I've you guys brought him up as potentially somebody to have on the podcast and Right, it's come his name's come up for you time like guys. I haven't seen anything to see
Starting point is 01:30:16 So I can't make an educated decision on where he's at all. I know it's as a person that tries to Do his best as an emotional being to process with reason. I have to sit there and reason on who he is. I don't know him yet. So I can't jump to conclusion and say, he is that or he's not that, okay. People change, but Kanye's strategy on how he's communicating,
Starting point is 01:30:40 there is a risk when you take a position and you put it out there. Trump took a risk when he said, the borders, all these people are coming across their rapists, their diss, their that. That statement came with a lot of risk and it was on him the next six to 12 months to sell everybody on why that's a risk. And an American said, okay, yeah, let me tell you why we need to build a wall. And first reaction, everybody's like, what? Yeah, with China's got a wall. This one, why we need to build a wall and first reaction everybody's like what?
Starting point is 01:31:05 Yeah, China's got a wall this but why can we have a wall you live in a house? Nancy Pelosi's got a gated community with walls around the house So let me get the straight it's okay for people to build a wall house around a wall against their house But it's not okay to build a wall against your country. What's wrong with that such and such doesn't you like? Oh wow, okay voter ID Mexico does voter ID. Why can we do voter ID and't you like oh wow okay voter ID Mexico does voter ID why can we do voter ID and other like oh so these are things that you have to sell and Kanye hasn't done a good job selling that's how there's to it if he was a better salesperson of the controversial argument he made then the audience would say oh okay that's you know know what? Fine, that's a good point.
Starting point is 01:31:45 He's not being able to sell his point. Your job as a campaigner is to sell a point for others to say, that makes sense. That hasn't happened to enough people yet. Can I tell you why I agree with you wholeheartedly on the labels, right? So like you've worked your ass off to be like if you put in Patrick Bet David or someone
Starting point is 01:32:06 wants to like if the media wants to write something about Patrick Bet David, they're going to say entrepreneur Patrick Bet David said, actor Kevin Sorbo said, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, look at the, look at the outlet right here. Right wing pundit and culture says that it is who you are. Okay. We're all creating ourselves and Maybe if you're lucky enough you get labeled what you actually are, right? So when Kanye West, who's been known as rapper Kanye West for 20 plus years is now
Starting point is 01:32:43 Anti-Semitic rapper Kanye West. He's earned that label. So when this guy Nick Fuentes is labeled as white supremacist, Holocaust and I are Nick Fuentes, I'm sorry, these labels a lot of times are who you are or they're basically, you're not gonna shed these labels. Like Tom has done a good job being known as the biz doc. Why?
Starting point is 01:33:07 Because he's literally a doctor of business for the last 20-something years. Because he's earned that right. You know, Link in a long time said, don't believe everything you read on the internet. Right. He was a big, he was a very active on Twitter. Can you pull up Patrick Beadeavit height please?
Starting point is 01:33:23 Just Google Patrick Beadeavit height. This is my favorite when you pull up Patrick Bay David Hyte, please? Just Google Patrick Bay David Hyte. This is my favorite when you type in Patrick Bay David Hyte. Okay, zoom in a little bit. Zoom in a little bit. One day. No, no, no, zoom in a little bit. First, so we can see it. Okay, so watch this.
Starting point is 01:33:35 On that website, I'm 5'7". Okay, on this other website, I'm 5'5". Okay, on this website, I'm 5'7". On that other website, I'm again 5.7 crazy. So I'm either 5.2 5.5 5.7 on Google How awesome is in real life you're 6.4 which is incredible, but It's amazing. That's another one says 5 feet 7 inches out of 154 pounds. How the hell do you find 154 It was a picture of you and me standing together and they said Patrick, but you're on the right.
Starting point is 01:34:09 But, so you have a point there that obviously don't believe everything you say out there, but the reality is, if you, like, according to the internet, you're five more. How many people say to me, I thought you were five seven, I'm like, why did you think I was five seven? Well, because the internet's out of the, oh, well, no doubt, you can't just read everything
Starting point is 01:34:29 at face value here, but everyone works very hard to have a reputation. And how about we talk about Balenciaga's reputation? Is that okay? Let's talk about their reputation. It worked very hard to ruin their reputation. I think my wife is watching right now. I missed a moment on homes right now. Go for it.
Starting point is 01:34:45 I missed a moment on homeschooling. She says it's risky to send your kids to the public schools because you're sending your children away from you to be indoctrinated against you every day. By the way, what's your wife's name? Sam. Sam, I fully agree with you. I had a meeting with the pastor this last week. I said, the fact that churches are not fully packed right now
Starting point is 01:35:07 tells you pastors are not selling their message properly today. I had a conversation with a couple guys. You know what I said? I said, listen, and I know this is going to go against a lot non-denominational and I'm in non-denominational myself. The message was, I don't care if you're Christian Catholic Seven-day LDS Jew I don't care what you are Get your kids to go to church today because at least the conservative values are being taught There's never been more if you can't afford private school if you can't afford a home schooling You can't afford to take your kids to a local church and get them involved kids need a lot more now Don't get me wrong. I know people gonna come back and say look what happened to the Catholic church and get them involved. Kids need a lot more now. Don't get me wrong. I know people are gonna come back and say,
Starting point is 01:35:46 look what happened to the Catholic church and all this other stuff. Totally get it. I understand what you're saying. All I'm saying to you is in a control fashion, get your kids around learning, solid values. The kids are needing that more because public schools are definitely not teaching that today.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Anyways, let's talk about this Balenciaga story. Kim Kardashian says she's disgusted by the Balenciaga Holiday ad campaign that's been accused of sexual sexualization of minors. If you want to pull this up so we can read what she says, there's a Twitter thread that goes up. She says the following, I'm going to pull this up here. I have been quiet for the past few days, not because I have, I have been
Starting point is 01:36:25 discussed in an outrage by the recent Balenciaga campaigns, but because I wanted an opportunity to speak to their team to understand for myself how this could have happened. As a mother of four, I have been shaken by the disturbing images, the safety of children must be held with the highest regards and any attempt to normalize child abuse of any kind should have no place in our society. I appreciate Balenciaga's removal of the campaign and apology and speaking with them, I believe they understand the seriousness of the issue
Starting point is 01:36:50 and will take the necessary measures for this to never happen again. As for my future of a Balenciaga, I'm currently re-evaluating my relationship with the brand, basing it off their willingness to accept accountability for something they should have never happened to begin with and the actions I'm expecting to see them take to protect children. So now this is what Kim says. This is how Balenciaga responds. And tell me if you're comfortable with this.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Balenciaga files a $25 million lawsuit against producers of the controversial BDSM teddy bear ad campaign. Valencia has filed a $25 million lawsuit. The Fashion House brought the suit Friday against the production company North Six Inc. and the set designer Nicholas Desdardens and his epinomist company for the inclusion in one of the ads of legal documents from a US Supreme Court decision on child porn laws.
Starting point is 01:37:44 The Fashion Brand ad also showed on settling pictures of a child holding teddy bears, dressed in bondage outfits, the two-page courts summons, doesn't mention the BDSM teddy bears, Balenciaga's bringing a case to seek a redress for extensive damages, defendants cause in the connection
Starting point is 01:38:02 with an advertising campaign Balenciaga hired from them to produce the Manhattan Supreme Court summons alleges Balanciga claims North six and this Giardens included the images of the court docs without its knowledge which was male event or at the very least extraordinarily reckless the filing states let me get the straight we've hired a lot of different marketing firms here's how marketing firms work with us, okay? So, back in the days, pre-social, like when I hadn't started a YouTube, this is 2010, 2010, I don't have a Twitter account,
Starting point is 01:38:33 I don't have any of that stuff. I'm not doing anything, I don't have a YouTube account. I started YouTube, I think, December of 2012, 2013 is when we started. So I heard as marketing agency, and they come in and they say, we should do this. A marketing agency, you paid them the money, they present you the product, the video, the commercial, whatever, maybe.
Starting point is 01:38:49 And then you say, no. And then from there, you give them access if they're using your Twitter account, you give them access if they're using your Instagram, Instagram account. You give them access to all your social. A marketing company doesn't come and post anything on your Instagram account, you give them access to all your social. A marketing company doesn't come and post anything on your Instagram account without your permission, Balenciaga. So unless if this marketing company came in with a gun put
Starting point is 01:39:16 to your head at the board meeting saying, give us all your passwords, let us post this with the follow-in and let you get some backlash. No, this $25 million lawsuit is not the marketing company. You agreed for this thing to be posted. You get 100% of the responsibility. Stop thinking people are dumb. There's not a single marketing firm agency in America that comes in and have an access to all your password to post is. This was 100% your responsibility and the most naive person in America who runs or works for marketing agency has called bullshit in your strategy here to defend your position that you had with this. You screwed up royally.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Oh, completely. And by the way, this is smoke screen. This is complete BS because the production company has approvals that have to be at all these checkpoints, all these sign-offs. Hey, what do you think? What do you think? What do you think? They don't move without signatures because that's how they get paid.
Starting point is 01:40:14 So this is a smoke screen. They are suing these guys and it's going to get tossed because these guys are going to go, oh, you mean these approvals and this summary of what the photo shoot was going to be that was signed off by the cheap marketing officer and this here and the three people from the company. We believe this though. We believe this though. Who believes that this was an accident? No, I don't think.
Starting point is 01:40:35 I hope any sensible person doesn't believe in an accident, but my point is this suit is going to get tossed quickly and this is a smoke screen for Balenciaga temporary. Nothing's going to court. Nothing big legal dollars aren't gonna be spent except on filing fees because the court is gonna toss us. This is just them protecting their butt. That's all this is. So this is better than a press release. I'm suing someone.
Starting point is 01:40:59 So it's better than a press release. I agree. I mean, this is just the way to cover themselves and say I had no idea about this. Of course, they had an idea about it. You know, spending the kind of money they're spending with these people and not being included in what they're putting out.
Starting point is 01:41:10 They were on set looking at daily. Of course, they were. Oh, isn't this cute? Yeah, it's cute. It's great. It's like, don't look over here. Don't look over here. We don't want to accept our thoughts.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Change the lighting. Give me more purple. Yeah. It's, yeah. I don't think there's anything to stand on. You're right. This is being thrown out immediately. But you know,, yeah, I don't think there's anything to stand on. You're right. This is being thrown out immediately. But you know, you know what I would think is what the marketing agency is going to say?
Starting point is 01:41:30 Like, say you're the marketing agency. You're listening to this. Let's just say you're that marketing agency. You presented this to them. A marketing agency comes in, asks a ton of questions. The brand tells you what they're looking for. For example, let me tell you what kind of a commercial we want to make. We want to make a commercial where think about the story.
Starting point is 01:41:51 I want a voice of God. Tell them the story of how Jeep Cherokee and how the hard work in American man, I want it to be a deep voice to tell the story. And then we show how America's been so great on what it's done and how the creators, the hard worker, the steel workers, we want that kind of an image. And then a marketing company goes and creates that commercial for you. That's how commercials are made, just so you know. Well, this is going to hurt the marketing agency as well. This is going to be an important
Starting point is 01:42:19 family who wants to hire these guys, that this kind of ideas are coming up with. But I don't put the onus on the market. I did your dean. She's going to. All I know is you're going to see how long this is going to last. So a story came out, which is kind of weird, but I don't know. When you read a story like this, it's kind of weird page two about page three by California.
Starting point is 01:42:41 And this kind of goes with this thousands of convicted pedophiles in California are being released from prison in less than a year. California, and this kind of goes with this. Thousands of convicted pedophiles in California are being released from prison in less than a year. Pedophiles are getting less than a year prison time after a range of horrific acting, including rapes, raping kids under 14, a DailyMail.com investigation reveals. Analysis of a California database of sex offenders shows thousands of child molesters are being let out
Starting point is 01:43:01 after just a few months despite sentencing guidelines, current informant sex crimes prosecutors said, the figures are terrifying and shameful. More than 7,000 sex offenders were convicted of lured or lured. Lusavius. Lusavius acts with a child on the 14 years of age, but were let out of prison the same year.
Starting point is 01:43:20 They were incarcerated data from California and Megan's law database. Database says. The way California is Megan's law database, database S. The way California is being ran right now, which story? Yeah, we'll finish with that. What are your thoughts about the story with California? Does it surprise you?
Starting point is 01:43:34 I mean, we're letting people attack people with tie irons and baseball bats and let them out the same day. It's like you bring them in, you let them out. I mean, what's going on in that state? What you can steal $1,000 or less than $1,000 with a 24 wallagreens or something, and San Francisco closed down?
Starting point is 01:43:49 Yeah, because people are going in everyday stealing thousands, I mean, tens of thousands, how are you staying in business? And the elderly in California are so careless, they leave the drawing lock guys can then hit you with the hammer. I mean, it's just, do you still live in California?
Starting point is 01:44:03 No, I live four years ago. I live here. We live in Florida. We live in Florida before all the COVID madness. Yeah you still live in California? No, I live four years ago. I live here. We left before all the COVID madness. Yeah, we, we, we, we the West Palm Beach area. We, we left, we've been coming out for years, we have family living out here, and we've been looking to get a California for at least the last 10 years,
Starting point is 01:44:15 and four years ago, we just finally made the move. Do you miss it at all? Or what do you miss at all? I loved, I lived in a area called West Lake Village, Thousand, Thousand Oaks. It's between LA and Santa Barbara, and I don't have any, it's beautiful. I missed a house, I had there, I missed the mountains.'s between LA and Santa Barbara, and I don't have you to decide, it's beautiful. I missed the house, I had there, I missed the mountains.
Starting point is 01:44:27 I've got the ocean here, so I don't miss the ocean. But you live in West Lake? Yeah, off of the Casper Old, which where did you, off of Linderro Canyon? Oh, beautiful. Yeah, by the way, do you know where West Lake is? I only know the office in... West Lake in Lake Detroit.
Starting point is 01:44:43 West Lake is like, honestly, it's like the place to be where you have some sort of privacy in your off the map. It's a very, very cool area, West Lake, the Gore Hills phenomenal area. About 45 miles north of downtown LA. It's fantastic. We there for 10 years, love it.
Starting point is 01:44:59 I miss my house. It was fantastic, but we just got to a point and said, I've shot over 70 movies since my Hercules and Andromeda years. And I would say 60 of those, Texas for the East, nothing shoots in California. And I said, why are we paying state tax, dealing with traffic, dealing with the politics of the state? But nothing actually shoots the head of 70.
Starting point is 01:45:17 All the studios are housed there. sitcoms, pretty much part, but no, they, Toronto, Vancouver, Georgia, as I mentioned. Atlanta, New Orleans. I just shot the Reagan movie in Guthrie, Oklahoma, with Dennis Quaid. most part but no they no the Toronto van Coover George as I mentioned yeah Atlanta New Orleans I just shot the Reagan movie and in Gothville, Oklahoma with Dennis Quaid coming up so when you see all these actors like you know Mark Walberg just left I mean you're not surprised it's because yeah but as far as the doing your job right you don't necessarily need to be California Mark Walberg could live in anywhere I don't know why he picked Nevada. I think there's a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 01:45:45 I mean, I had a home there for many years. But for me, it was convenient to get in LA when I needed to get in there. But Walbert is probably looking the same thing. I heard he wants to build a studio out there as well. But we're grateful to be here. The movie's been fantastic. And I love it here.
Starting point is 01:46:00 Like I said, I've been coming up with you. You live here in West Lake, Villageria. I mean, West Palm Beach area. West Palm Beach area. I mean, I know West Palm Beach area. West Palm Beach area. I mean, originally when we came here, we made offers on homes in Manala Pant, I like Manala Pant, a lot, Lantana that whole area.
Starting point is 01:46:15 We're in Wellington, we're in Horse Country. Oh, I know where you are. We got land, we got on a lake. It's your ride by King's College. Is it not King's College? King's College isn't too far away. Yeah, yeah. It's, you know, the kid who won the valedictorian
Starting point is 01:46:27 two years ago, he gave a speech that won viral 20 million views to valedictorian at the school. It's a great school. We looked at the campus, we got a tour, nice facility, and it's in Wellington, I wanna say, a mile away from Wellington. Yeah, it's probably, for where you live,
Starting point is 01:46:41 it's probably about 10 miles away. But what do you always say about California? I love it here, but it's not's probably for where you live it's probably about ten miles but what do you always say about california i love it here but it's not worth the thirteen point uh... three percent what's about to raise it higher and and by the way as much as you say what you say about california just so you know newsome will be the democratic not only were president because he is a superstar for them where's the story about us against iran was the first page
Starting point is 01:47:02 uh... let's see what we got going on here. So this game, Iran calls for US to be kicked out of the World Cup after removing Islamic Republic symbol from the flag social media post. The US men's national team infuriated Iran's officials by briefly using an Iranian flag that lacked the Islamic Republic symbol. And the center of the banner on the US team's social media
Starting point is 01:47:24 World Cup post, the USMNTE posted a statement saying get intended to use it incomplete Iranian flag for 24 hours to show our support for women in Iran. Wow, the USMNTE used a flag to represent Iran in its World Cup. Social media posts that appeared solely as a green white and red striped banner, deleting the central symbol of a sword and four curves representing the saying there is no god
Starting point is 01:47:46 But God the design is also meant to represent a toilet or Lotus flower the symbol was created in 1980 by the Islamic Republic after 1979 Mola revolution that ousted to Shah of Iran from power the Daily Mail reported by the way the interviews have been epic the US player that was asked by by the way the interviews have been epic the US player that was asked by by the way we are not Iranian you know Iranian and and why apologize for the way to pronounce I will do my best this is a great thing about progress I've played for a lot of different teams around the world what I like about America's that we're making progress you know the message yeah yeah I thought about that I saw that yeah that's good so what's gonna happen this is is a big game. It's a very big game. They're saying that it's gonna be high scoring another one zippercut on the game.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Another one. For alert and soccer, watch there. People run 100 meters back and forth. They're calling for Americans to America, USA, to be kicked out for what they did with the flag. Yes. I'm making a prediction. The only thing that will be kicked out is Iran after they lose this game. America wins. We move on to the quarterfinals and Iran will be kicked out is Iran after they lose this game America wins we move on the quarterfinals and Iran will be kicked out you know
Starting point is 01:48:49 many people came up to me this weekend and whales who's pat room for Iran or USA I said my plug yeah I will tell you this I will take I said one thing I know about pat is that he was born in Iran but he was made in the USA and I assume you're rooting for the country we love and live in, right? It's not even close. It's not even close, but I will tell you, I mean, of course I'm rooting for US to win it because for many different reasons, values, all that stuff. But if I'm an analyst, not talking about it with who I want to see win, Iran's the better team. Just show about it. Iran's the better team.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Just show about it knows Iran's the better team. US doesn't really have a. They're all in I think one oh one one. Iran's Iran's a but here's a here's a great thing about this game. Anybody can win it like if you want to have a game that you go on a watch and say who's going to win it. Anybody can win it.
Starting point is 01:49:40 So we'll see what's going to happen today. I what time two o'clock to o'clock. It's going to be a big. He's a big game. Kevin tell us about the books. Tell us about what you're working on right now. So we'll see what's going to happen today at what time two o'clock? Two o'clock. It's going to be a big news. I'm big game. Kevin, tell us about the books. Tell us about what you're working on right now. Coming out, please go to leftbehindmovie.com.
Starting point is 01:49:51 Left Behind Movie. Left Behind Space on the books. There were so 80 million copies of it. Left Behind Movie.com opens on 11th-hundred screens January 26th. The Reagan movie is coming out sometime next spring. I got another movie called Miracle East Texas that I did with Lou Gasset, Jr. in John Ratzberger. That's gonna come out sometime next spring as well.
Starting point is 01:50:09 I'm hosting a trip to Israel. So I hope people join us. My wife and I took people back in 2019. We're leaving in May of 2023. Go to sorboisraeltrip.com. Sorboisraeltrip.com. It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna start on a 20 spot.
Starting point is 01:50:22 We got 12 days of being basically walking in foot steps with Jesus. It's an amazing, amazing trip. It's my be awesome. It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be awesome. We got 12 days of being basically walking in foot steps with Jesus. It's an amazing, amazing trip. It's my fourth time going. I was just there in spring. I did a documentary. And I hope people join us for that as well. And what else going on my book?
Starting point is 01:50:36 True strength, please check out True Strength and plug out True Faith. You can go to sorbostudios.com. SorboStudios.com. I gave you a lot of information here. I hope you guys were running down quickly there. We're plugging on it. I just put the link in the chat that says
Starting point is 01:50:49 the Sorbo, the one going to Israel. I put that down. I put that down. I then got sorbostudios.com. We got a lot of great Christmas items you guys and get there. I've done a lot of wonderful movies like God's Not Dead. What if, let it be light, which is right here, let the be light is an awesome movie.
Starting point is 01:51:07 This movie actually opened. You talked about earlier about, and we were talking about in Hollywood, this movie opened number two per screen average against Thor Ragnarok when it came out four years ago, okay? Number two, okay, against a $3 million movie, Sean Hannity funded it. A $3 million movie, I've got a $300 million movie, Sean Hannity funded it. $3 million movie, I have said $300 million movie, Thor Regnerock, I get a call from Netflix after opening weekend saying, we want to open an inspirational division with you
Starting point is 01:51:31 at Netflix, I had four meetings with them over the next few months, they never did anything, which is really sad. And I said, you guys are going to pass your ideology and hate there's 80 million homes in America. I want the kind of movies I do that are filled with love, hope, faith, and redemption, and laughter. Holly won't do them, I do them, but we can only get supported by people like you because we don't have a hundred
Starting point is 01:51:47 million dollar advertising budget. So please, sorbosstudies.com. Awesome. I love that. I love that. Okay. Tyler, what do we have? Do we have another podcast this week or no?
Starting point is 01:51:57 We have another podcast. Two on Thursday. Potentially two on Thursday. Definitely Andrew Schultz. Andrew Schultz. Schultz Thursday afternoon That should be the end, okay, good and then do we have one on Friday or no no potentially one Thursday morning Definitely Schultz Thursday and the Thursday morning is very different than one on Thursday afternoon I got a guy I got a one more plug
Starting point is 01:52:20 Paytreat mobile check that out paytreat mobile is the fight against Verizon Amazon It's a Christian conservative company based out of Dallas, Texas and they give a give 50% of profits back to conservative businesses Awesome, pay for all that You got a lot going on man. Check it out. All right, Kevin. Appreciate you for coming out. This was fantastic Have a good one guys. We'll do the skin on Thursday. Bye bye bye Bye, bye, bye.

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