PBD Podcast - Ricardo Aguilar and Phil Heath | PBD Podcast | EP 69

Episode Date: June 21, 2021

In Episode 69 of the PBD Podcast Patrick Bet-David, Gerard Michaels, Ricardo Aguilar and Phil Heath sit down to talk about topics ranging from Joe Rogans feud with CNN's Brain Stelter, Harvard data reveal how the lockdown hurt the working class the most, and much more!  Watch the full podcast: https://youtu.be/PpabQnfrFIY --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

We're live folks. Anyways, we are back with the great Ricky Aguilar and Gerard Michaels back in the house. You guys have never done this together, right? It's always been Adam. You're sitting in Adam's chair. I'm not. I'm sitting in Adam's chair. And Gerard sitting in his chair, you know,

where he's at right now. So have you guys ever spent time together? No, just the first, he's flexing on me all day. Oh, no. He's been flexing on me. Show's up with a $10,000 watch. I'm like, what's going on here? We're talking about flexing. Last night, there was a guy flexing on me, shows up with a $10,000 watch. What's going on here? We talked about flexing last night.

There was a guy flexing at the house till one o'clock in the morning, our friend Phil Heath, seven times in Olympia. That was nuts. We had a good time with him yesterday. You know, just a crazy thought to throw out there. A year ago, I got myself in trouble. Okay, I didn't get myself in trouble,

but I got, you know, Phil and I were doing a live and I said, what if, what if I run a bodybuilding contest show? But I want the best of the best show up. First place I give a million bucks, okay? Second place I give a half a million bucks. But I want the best of the best of the best and we sell it on pay-per-view. And it got Phil a little bit in trouble

because you're not supposed to be talking to the guy. This is your Mr. Olympia, you're not supposed to do that. But you know what, there's something about the Mr. Olympia brand that needs competition. I don't know why, I just feel it needs, it needs somebody to ruffle the feathers a little bit. I think it's a little bit too political. I'd love to see somebody come out there

and steer the paddle Mr. I was doing bodybuilding interviews for a long time. We may be doing some surprises here soon. I don't know what it is but just something about wanting to compete with Mr. Olympia excites I don't know what it is I don't know what it is and I but I don't even know if there's a big audience for bodybuilding or not I don't know if there's a big is I think there might be now more than even before pat there's a part of me that

wants to agree with you there's a part of me that wants to believe that there's a part of me that thinks you know vegans and all that stuff that there's no world there really getting right now that people are trying to do real healthy I think there's a part of me that wants to believe that. There's a part of me that thinks. You know, vegans and all that stuff. There's no world there. We're living in right now that people are like, trying to get real healthy. I think there's a bigger market than you might think. Can I ask you a weird question? Yeah.

Mr. Olympia. How big of a brand is that? Massive. Massive brand. I mean, body of the people. Okay. Arnold, Lehanie. Yeah.

They have footage from everywhere. How many subscribers do you think Mr. Olympia's YouTube channel has? You can't answer this. How many subscribers do you think their channel has?pia's YouTube channel has? You can't answer this. How many subscribers do you think they're channeled? I said last night. He said 20,500,000. I'm gonna go, man, that's tough. Can you pull it up? Worldwide? Worldwide. They're YouTube channel. Yeah, I would say maybe, maybe four million. Four million. Okay. I would have said five. Kai, can you pull up their YouTube channel right now to take a look at this? You pull up their YouTube channel right now to take a look at this. You know, by the way, maybe help them out a little bit. Go give them a subscriber or something. Shit, I don't know what they're doing over there, but okay.

Go to Mr. Olympia's YouTube channel, okay. Here's a brand. Who the hell is running this thing that can't even figure out to get more than 31,000 subscribers? If I'm a bodybuilder representing a brand like that, you guys got to do a better job marketing. You got physics. You ever see these guys would apps post to picture 38,000 likes? These guys are posting 48,000 likes.

How do you not have a check? All the footage they own, they don't even know how to market a brand like this. Anyways, I hope the new guy does something about it, Jake, with effort, good things about him. But I think there needs to be some kind of a shake up there. That's just my opinion. I'm just nice competition man.

I mean look, this is what I was hoping for. I was really, really rooting for Vince McMahon's XFL to actually do something not to compete with the NFL, but to maybe improve the brand, give these guys a chance to, you know, listen, that's one of the best things about capitalism. Look what happened with Rogan and Stelter, right? Let's get right into what happened with Rogan and we have, by the way, we got a lot of stories going on, okay? Gerard's favorite story is the Nickel in the, in the collodian story, because Gerard grew up hardcore on the collodian. We got to touch up on that. Yeah. Justin Bieber pretended to, this is an actually interesting

spoof of what happened saying. This isn't Justin. You got the wrong guy. We'll cover that here in a minute. Chris Koma, Colin Fox News, the disgrace. You got Devin Booker. This might be a bad president, Richard Jefferson, roasted NBA. I mean, it was Devin Booker stood up and did something very interesting that pissed off a lot of people. Victoria's Secret of Band-ins, it's a dressed angel saying they're no longer culturally relevant activists and entrepreneurs will be the new faces of the brand. It says, will it work or not? I guess we're going to talk about that. And some stuff going on in Chicago. But let's talk about, let's talk about a Rogan and Stelter, okay So Brian's Seltzer is with CNN, right?

For now and he's got a show that is Plummed it tremendously. I don't know if you're familiar with Brian Stelters. He you know They call out typically, you know these YouTubers because I can't believe these podcasters are getting more views than we are so Rogan because I can't believe these podcasters are getting more views than we are. So Rogan decides to call them out. And here's what Rogan said. Let's just read this story here. And let's get right into it. Well, Pedro, you're in paddocks?

I'm on page six. Page six, got it. Inside Joe Rogan's bitter feud with CNN's Brian Steltard. This is a newsweek story. During the conversation with political commentator Kyle Kolinsky on the Joe Rogan experience, Rogan described a CNN segment about the popularity of YouTubers and podcasts, and in some cases have more viewers than traditional TV networks.

Rogan's set of Brian Stelter, who hosts reliable sources. They're describing as if they're entitled to viewers. This is because the market has spoken, and your show is affin terrible. Rogan also took aim at Stelter for his recent interview with White House Press Secretary in which he asked, what does the press get wrong when covering Biden's agenda? How about Brian Stelter talking to the press? No, not broadening his criticism to the cable hose in general. Rogan added, they're obviously being told a certain amount of what to do. And I mean, maybe he'd be an interesting guy

if he had his own F and podcasts. If it could just rely on his own personality and be himself, I don't know. I can't imagine doing that gig. Any of those guys, that gig is a strange gig, right? So you talk about capitalism. Yeah. Yeah. You talk about capitalism.

This is the ultimate capitalistic thing taking place right now on media. You got these guys who went to the Columbia University, they walled it the right way, they got their jobs at CNN and now Rogan is crushing these guys as numbers. Crowder is destroying them and they're upset about it. What are your thoughts about that? Oh, let me tell you, man, this is a great time to be alive because the funny thing about it is it's gaslighting more than anything else. Stelters trying to say that because of these podcasts people like Rogan and Patrick Med David they can get fake news. They don't want it's not fake news. Who's more fake news than CNN? They're mad. They don't have control over the narrative. These people are

so sick in the head. This human thumb that is Brian Stelter and thank you for describing to your audience who he is because there's nobody who's ever watched him. They don't know who he is. He is a human thumb. He is a propagandist of the highest order. And this dude is mad that other people can actually find news and information that they want and they can't just shove his worldview down everybody's throat. That's what he's upset about. What is he saying? He's saying, I don't want to compete.

I represent I'm a mouthpiece of the rich educated, how he educated the rich Hollywood elite. And you have to take what I give you when I give it to you. Shut up, bend over and take. Who do people trust more? Rogan or stealth? Rogan by a mile. Is it even a question?

No. Okay, let's go through the list of the guys that have their own shows right now. Yeah, let's go through the list and tell me who you actually trust. You got it. You got to say someone you trust from the left as well though. It can't be like so. Okay.

I can give you a list of six or seven. Down lemon. No. I'm sorry. Don LaMont. No. No. No.

No Anderson Cooper. No. No Anderson Vanderbilt. Okay. Stelter. No. Okay. Bill Mar. Yes. No. Okay. Bill Marr. Yes. He's talking about Moranis. John Stewart. Yes. Okay.

Russell Brandt. I mean, he's not a media guy. He's a YouTuber guy, but love. Okay. Who else we got on the left? Okay. Who else you got on the left? I can give you. All right. There's a guy named Jason Brennan from 200 proof liberals that I read almost every day. And he's a, he has a what's called? he's a professor at University of Georgetown Matt Taibi Matt Taibi former editor of Rolling Stone Barry Weiss from New York Times Alex Baronson these are all what I would consider you know you like the term JFK Democrats look I am not I'm a libertarian I'm not a Republican you know I'm not some far right dude man it I have been the same we talked about this a few podcasts ago I'm not a Republican. You know, I'm not some far right dude, man. I have been the same.

We talked about this a few podcasts ago. I had to really reevaluate myself during COVID-19, because I found myself like being, you know, finding like things Alex Jones was saying, like, wow, all right, like I'm agreeing with Alex Jones. I need to reevaluate, this is pause for concern. But I'm in the same place I've always been. It's the culture's gone so far left, so fast that it makes anybody who's in the center

or wasn't the center even two, three years ago, seem like a far right dream. What do you say about Freezecaria? Freezecaria. Like him. Yeah. I disagree with him, but I appreciate his approach, I should say. I would agree with that as well. Adam's a big fan of Freezecaria.

He sends me stuff. He sent me a couple of things over the weekend. I was looking at how he was presenting Russia and Iran What do you think about what's going on right now with the the Rogan stelter story? No, I agree with them. I think that I think what's happening is that There's a narrative they want to push and anybody that doesn't believe their narrative or doesn't buy into their narrative becomes the enemy Right, and so that people here's a reality is that the media and the elite don't believe their narrative or doesn't buy into their narrative becomes the enemy. And so people, here's the reality is that the media and the elite don't want free thinkers and podcasts are free thinkers for now and somebody's gonna get bought out eventually.

They, the free thinkers scares the world. It scares the elite because what happens is you start to rally people behind, behind the hey, let's question this, maybe this is not reality. You know, it was, I was talking to, I was telling him that I was in my family's gathering this past, I think it was not this weekend, it was the past weekend, and we were having conversations with that, you know, like, hey, what's up?

How do you guys, how dumb do you guys feel about the way you voted now? I mean, it's so obvious. You're asking them. Yeah, I'm asking them. And they're just like, oh, well, you know, no, I don't know. Why don't you tell me? So I think what's happening is that people are in a position right now where they are really extremely confused.

And the only way to keep them in control is to be able to push your narrative on their throat. But right now, with the high gas prices, with the high taxes, with the open borders, people like, whoa, did we really make the right decision? So right now, obviously, you're not going to get people from the far right to come to the left obviously, you're not going to get people from the far right to come to the left.

You're not going to get people from the far left to come to the middle or try to get them to meet in the middle. But you have a lot of people in the middle. And they're like, I wonder what direction to go into. And those are the people right now that those are the new voting block for 2024. And it scares a crap out of CNN, the elite, even Fox to think that they made losing people because of people they're thinking and talking freely. And I just think that's what we're at right now. You know, because I think a voting block is opening up right

now. I really believe that there's a voting block is opening up. I need to far left the coming of the middle a little bit though. I need them to come to the middle because the thing is they have power. The far right doesn't have power. For all like the boogeyman far right we're always hearing about. They're not in power. No, they're not what will get what who's a far right governor right now? No, who's who's a far what's the far right in? In you know in in Congress and Senate right there's the far left is ever increasing in power Yes, they own all of our schools. They own all of our C suites right how many how many corporations? We're gonna talk about Nickelodeon

in a second? How many corporations do everything they possibly can? Bend over backwards for the far right, none of them. But it takes exactly one article from Huffington Post and now Charles Barkley can't talk about big old babies in San Antonio anymore. They own us, they own the culture, they own the zeitgeist. They're driving the ship, they They own the zeitgeist.

They're driving the ship. They're at the wheel, man. So this whole 50-50, it's both sides, they drive me out of my mind. They're not going to win though. They're not going to win though. I'm telling you, they're not going to win because let me put it to you this way. Here's what history has told us. History has told us.

The biggest thing you can take away from people that brings out, okay? So think about it this way. What will bring out the worst in you? What will bring out the worst than you? Not the best than you? The worst. I like like every one of us has a dark, dark side inside. Everybody has it. My kids have it. You have it. My mom, my dad. Everybody's got it. But for some, it takes a lot to get to, right? Yeah. For some, it takes a little for some. They are itching for it, right? What's going to get the worst at you? Control me.

Okay. Same, same. Okay. So let's go through them actually. What, Kai, what would get the worst at of you? Actually, I want you, I want to ask everybody, David. And David's doing my family. What's gonna bring out the ugliest side of David out?

Like you're gonna be like, hell to the know, we don't even recognize you. Who would, folks, if you're listening to this, I want to hear from you as here from you as well. What what event what what do you lose what can be taken away from you were we're gonna see the worst side of it. They what's yours. Probably some sort of physical harm to my family or something. I agree that's one of them I'm with you there. Are you same place Vanessa I've got yourself I guess if someone tries to hurt my mom I would go. But okay good you see how you went there, Kai. By the way, our emotions, have you noticed,

we're like, we're there right now. I'll see you next time. Kai, how about yourself? Are you really thinking, this isn't a technical question. Don't try to act like you don't have a dark side, deep down inside where you wouldn't flip. If somebody did something to your mom, who's raised you guys incredibly,

if somebody did something to your mom. No, definitely family, I think that'd be one, or just limiting, like, really limiting what I can say or do, I think, you know. Okay, there you go. So you have to, as you go down the list, so think about, you know, somebody putting a muzzle on you,

like, actually think you can't talk anymore. What are you gonna do? What is, how do you express yourself to tell the world who you really are? And that's what they're doing. People don't realize like there are certain things you do to others. You are like creating a monster soon to be released to the world. You cannot do that. And that's exactly what they're doing right now. It's not like, hey, you're going to go out and going to say, these guys can't talk. Those guys can't do, you can't say anything. Block these guys, censor those guys. You keep doing that over and over and over again.

When it comes back on you, it's not gonna be a little bit. It's gonna be with vengeance. It's gonna be, and it's gonna be such true believers that you're gonna be miserable for decades. That's the ugly thing that's gonna eventually take place. Well, what would it take though? I mean, I would have thought the T would have been thrown in the harbor six months into quarantine.

It's not a one-year fix though. It's not a one-year fix. The pround would sound like this. I don't think it's a one-year fix. I think, so you and I spend the whole day with Rudy Giuliani last week. Yes, we had Rudy's place, and you go in, how was he with you

when you spend the time with him? Incredible, did he make your breakfast? You brought your guys eggs, you, all that stuff. We had a two-hour sit down, ended up being how long? He wouldn't let you leave, almost four hours stuff. And we had a two hour sit down and ended up being how long? He wouldn't let you leave, almost four hours. Yeah, we had a four hour conversation with Rudy. And we're going in this office and showing all these stories. You know, it's uncle Joe Demage, you know, all these great stories that he had, right?

And we're sitting there talking. I told Rudy, I said, Rudy, one of the biggest challenges we're facing right now is, you know, Republicans made a mistake. Same thing we keep talking about. They made a mistake. Republicans went after being rich on leave me alone. Democrats went after, let me buy media and let me buy universities.

It's very simple. You wanted to disagree with you, then you thought about it, then you agreed with it. Yes, it was a, obviously we cover a lot of different things. We're working on a special project right now that will be launched in here pretty soon. But, you know, the right has to re-strategize. Yeah.

The thing is this, so check this out, Ricky. You know that one time I'm hosting a meeting at Yucca Valley. Okay, Mari, you would remember this. We're at Yucca Valley. I don't even know where Yucca Valley is. Yucca Valley is right outside of Indian Wells, which to make the world. Okay, Palm Desert, yeah. Palm Springs area.

Okay, so we rent at this castle in Yucca Valley. Sky builds this castle and all he does is he rents it there. Okay, so we rented this castle in Yucca Valley Skat builds this castle and all he does is he rents it on okay, so we go in We're sitting and we're trying to come out with our code of honor. How to run our sales office? This has got to be 06 maybe 07 right and We go then we decide to come up with the code of honor that everybody agrees on one guy guy named Philip Says we should do parliamentary a law. That's how we should come out with these rules. Parliamentary is what? Everybody has to agree, or else it's not getting out there.

That's right, you know what I'm saying? You know, we started at six o'clock at night. I'm not even kidding with you. We finished at seven o'clock in the morning. Oh, the next day. The next day. We finished seven o'clock the next morning. Why?

Because there was no one voice. I said, I will never do this again. Initially, I agreed to it. I said, this is not effective. Somebody has to be a shot caller, right? You know, it's a problem with the Republican Party right now. Who the hell is a shot caller? Nobody. Who behind closed doors is sitting down and saying, guys, this is the strategy moving forward. The left's got it. Right doesn't have it. Now, don't get me wrong. They're segmented right now. Even the left because they got the AOC side. Yeah, they got the liberal side, but there isn't a voice that's bringing people to get a sandwich the next strategy.

Yeah, I think they're, I think you're right, but I think it's not because, how can I put this? Look, the same reason why the libertarian party is never going to be any sort of a real party because you have people who their entire intention is small government. You can't sell that. There's two people. There's two types of people that get involved in government, the greedy and the crazy. You have people that are either trying to give money to politicians because they expect

to get something in return or you have people that have been so negatively affected by something in their life that they're nuts, they're lunatics, they're activists, and those are the people that donate their time. So you have people either, there's two commodities when it comes to politics. You have time and you have money. How much time have you ever donated to a political party? You're a politically active guy. How much time have you ever donated?

I've dated her quite a bit. Okay. You're in this entire office. Yeah. Statistically speaking, you would be one of two people in this entire office that has donated time to a political party. Donating money is something even less people do. So in an office, in an office of 100 people, the crossovers are incredibly high.

It's over 75% of the people who donate time donate money. It's a very, very active small group. This is the exact point of credit. Meaning more time is given than money is given. More time is given, but the people who give time also give money. It's a 75% crossovers. It's a very, very small group. So those groups tend to be on the extreme. So you were talking about the center before and how the center, there's a 75% crossover. It's very, very small. So those groups tend to be on

the extreme. So you were talking about the center before and how the center there's a chance for a third party, Pat's talking about there's a market for it right now. Seven over 73% according to the Kato Institute, we fall between like five and six percent left and right. We're all in the center. We're just the shade of left or shade of right. But those people, us in the middle, we don't donate our time, we don't donate our money. So we don't get anywhere. We don't get anywhere. There's a rally any more.

So if you look at AOC and you look at people that are on the far left, and Pat, you're talking about well, there's no leader. They have nothing to bribe people with. AOC comes in and she says, government is good. We need more government. So if you stumped for me, I'm gonna give you a job and'm going to give you money. And it's not hypocritical because that's her entire worldview. So she can literally sell government and people can get behind and say there's something in this

for me. They can, they can, they can hit the ego aspect of this. If you're a true quote-unquote Republican, if you're a true, you know, small government conservative, if that even exists anymore, if you're not just a big government, but different type of loans to other people, right? If you're a true small government person, if you are a true free market individual, it's very, very hard to get people involved in your cause because there's nothing in it for them

outside of ideological agreement. Right. So that becomes the struggle. The struggle becomes what's the carrot? What is the carrot for you? I need people on my campaign. What's the carrot for you? I'm gonna eliminate this department.

There's gonna be no job for you. You know, it's crazy. Kai, what's that one book we read? The guy who ran Washington four years, what's his name? James Baker, the third. James Baker, the third. Okay, great guy, great story, right?

They called him the real president of the United States for the longest time. Jim Baker, James Baker the third okay great guy great story right they called them the real president of the United States for longest time Jim Baker James Baker you know but it's the same guy right is this a guy from the Christian group I don't know I don't know if that's the guy he was a guy that was a right-hand guy for a lot of people who won elections he to chief of staff or I think Reagan he was he was pretty much he was pretty much dick cheney predic cheney but he randick cheney, but he ran everyone, right?

There's only one thing he had, no aspirations to become, which is what? The lead dog. Yeah, no, the, when I ask a Joan Amendes, the Chief Disguise Officer of U.S., I said, what's the quality of a great CIA agent? She said, somebody that's ambitious, charming, charismatic, all of that, except somebody that doesn't want or need the credit if they save the world. Yes.

That's what they describe the mafia boss. But that's the point. Somebody who is the person that needs to be a voice on the right to help with these strategies is somebody that has zero aspirations to be a president. Zero. They have no aspirations to be president. They have no aspirations to go out there and get whatever else They need to be doing. It needs to be somebody with credibility. It needs to be somebody that wants to purely keep it free.

If somebody like that gets there and says, Hey, here's some strategies. This is what I suggest we do. Let's get behind this message. Let's do some like this. Let's put a poll and we create a fund and that fund goes one by one by one by an any media company that's on sale I'm going to keep saying this until somebody listens to this every media company that goes on sale you buy it and you pay 25% more you got to compete in the information Economy you have to compete in information economy anything New York Times or sell buy it New York Post for sale buy it Huffington Post for sale buy I don't care what it is buy it and pay 25% higher can't beat them by them buy it buy it absolutely and you got the fun to do it take the top 100 richest Republicans on the right take it absolutely the creative fun everybody chips in 10% you know I was like I'm gonna give 10 percent to charity this is a charity why aren't you on that with this makes a ton

of sense I don't know why they're not doing this you know what you know what it here's here's we were interviewing Ted grouting Ted grouting or gaudy uh trade gaudy trade grouting yeah trade gaudy and and uh Here's we were interviewing Ted Groude. Ted Groude or Gaudi? Trey Gaudi. Trey Gaudi. Yeah, Trey Gaudi. And Trey Gaudi. And so Ted, Gaudi or Groude? Trey Gaudi. Trey Gaudi.

Trey Gaudi. Trey Gaudi. Trey Gaudi. Trey Gaudi. Trey Gaudi. And so we're interviewing him. Actually, one of my mentors was a guy. That is an interview.

So you got Jose Guy, Tom, no problem. What do you mean? Jose Catan? I'm not being a problem. I'm a meaner, bro. Like, if I don't, if I don't get a guy,

yeah, trade out, yeah, trade out. So anyway, he's interviewing him and trade out. He kind of, what he does is he, he goes into a, uh, a part where he's very briefly

says that he retired or he stepped away because he didn't see what he was rallying going anywhere. And he was and he was a brilliant. He was the second to him would be, I can't remember his name. I can't remember his name. He was really loud. I started to jack him on his name.

God, I love him. I love watching him. I believe Traygaon he never lost the cases. Right. He never lost. But what I'm getting at is this that the ones that do want to rally and want to start a campaign to get people to wake up to what's going on are not having enough backing. No, he quit.

So they get tired. He quit. Yes, specifically, he's like, I can do more good outside of that. Right. Because imagine that you can't like going back to Pat's point is that the fact that he, there's no backing. He's a perfect guy for that. By the way, he, it's so funny. He just brought out of him thought about that. Yeah. He would be the right guy. 100%. He would be because everybody trusts him. Yeah.

Bring him in. He has no motive. His motive is he says like, it's one of my kids. I want it. My wife doesn't want him to get into politics, but he's a brilliant strategist being closed doors. It's important for me to note gentlemen, for the hundreds of thousands of value-tainers listening, that Ron Paul was right about everything. He's always been right about everything. He's not been wrong, he's been vindicated. He was right about it all.

Well, we're gonna see what's gonna happen there. But let's go to a complete different story here. Let's go to, I'm gonna go to the investment banker, labor crunch, go to page three, go to page three, we'll talk a little different story here. Let's go to, pa pa pa pa pa. I'm gonna go to the investment banker, labor crunch. Go to page three. Go to page three. We'll talk a little bit business here. So, investment banking, labor crunch. A junior banker shortage is forcing rain makers

to do grunt work and firms are lowering the bar for new hires, business inside. America is facing labor shortage, spanning multiple industries. Banking isn't immune. Just months after junior bankers rallied against management, Ahmed crushing levels of burnout. One of the root drivers of the problem has yet to be solved.

Banks have two few hands on deck to handle their massive deal loads. As a result, some senior bankers have been forced to roll up their sleeves to work on deal processes that typically would have been relegated to the most entry level employees according to some banking insiders. In some cases, the situation has gone to dire that banks have been, have had to turn away

business. Some firms have easily shared juniors throughout the band, which have heavily shared juniors throughout the pandemic have recently been laterally hiring juniors with minimal experience who have a pretty steep learning curve So can you imagine saying oh my gosh, we have so many deals. We have to we have to turn them down What a place to be what a place to be what do you think about that story? I say pay people more money and they will work my god Am I supposed to feel bad for investment banking firms now that they can't get cheap labor?

So you can come on So let's shop I'm not for ready with these guys my god I am so dude. I'm so sick of of Wall Street and the crony capitalism man They look I lost a lot of money on on on my stonks when Robin Hood decided that they weren't gonna let the hedge fund lose All right, I'm one of those guys that I got crushed in that short squeeze. We were about to make a ton of money and they got together with old Janie Yellen. They said, no, no, no, no, no, we're not gonna let that hedge fund go under. We're just gonna shut down.

You can sell your stuff, but you can't buy it. You can't buy it. You can't buy it. Yeah, screw that and screw these people, all right. You want people to work, pay them. You want people to do the job. So really, really well paid people at these firms are crying because they don't want to do this work. Because it's hard.

They'd pay people more money to do the hard work. Yeah, enough already. I'm so sick of you doing this. How much of it has to do with the fact that they're getting paid to do nothing? Which ones? With the seniors. Yeah.

Like the seniors. Yeah, yeah. Junior bankers. How much of it has to do with that? Well, you're talking about the stimulus that they got. I'm talking about the fact that they with the seniors? Yeah, they like the like the like the like the like the junior bankers. How much of it has to do with that? Well, you're talking about the stimulus that they got some about the fact that they got the the seniors are overpaid And that's what I'm saying with the combination of the fact that stimulus check was literally almost down to your six fingers dude It how much is that to do with you? Yeah, there's there's this idea that people are supposed to quote unquote do the right thing Like don't take the unemployment and go back to work screw that man If the government's giving that money to all their buddies you take that money to I have absolutely

zero Problem with somebody staying home and taking off the government dime if they're gonna give this money to Raytheon They're gonna give this money to their own donors anyway get yours man Because otherwise I said it last time. If you're doing the right thing, when everybody else isn't doing the right thing, you're not noble, you're a sucker. Cake. Sit home and cake, man.

If they want these people to work, Pat. If they want these people to work, sell some of those divinches that they got hanging in the, in the 118th floor of their Mahogany offices, and pay these dudes some money, pay people to work and they will come back to work. Let me give you, Kai, who do I sit with this week who told me the story about the guy

that replaced the WeWork CEO, Adam Newman, but the new guy, can you pull up the new CEO of the new CEO of WeWork? Who's the new CEO? I got the best story I got, WeWork CEO. I just don't have it in me, I can't cry. Sunday, let me take this story, I can't cry. So I'm speaking to a guy, I don't know what,

would I interview this week guy? Who was a person I interviewed this week? Business person I interviewed. Anyway, so I'm interviewing this guy, and he brings up the story of Sandeep. And Sandeep takes over, we work, okay. And he, this one guy is shadowing him. I wish I could remember who I'm talking to.

This one guy is shadowing him around him. Oh, Peter Toney. I would Peter Toney who's an artist out of a win-wood. Great artist, love the work. He's coming to my house right after this. I've got something I commissioned. He's coming out to do someone. He's done stuff for Michelle Obama, for Kushner for Trump for everybody for Bezos

Everybody's got a space. He's got a ridiculous. He's been investment back in the back in the days Very interesting guy says at 14 years old. I went to a party and we were there was pot. It was cocaine There was everything there. He said I left the party at 45 years old The guys filled with stories so we go to his place, and this week and I go and I take Shanda and I take Mario and I take Sam. We go there. Anyway, he tells a story about his friend from WeWork. Sandipu took over and he's got a good relationship with him.

He says, Pat, let me tell you how this guy did it. He did it right. He says, Sandip comes to want to save WeWork. And I asked him a question, how did you save it? He said, very simple. This is what I did. He says, I live in a two bedroom place. Okay. He says, I drive a Volvo. Volvo. He says, one of my top guys that's making all the money is doing all this stuff. They don't want to go to work anymore. They're just kicking back again. The problem

is senior brokers, they don't want to get to work. They've already earned it. Like I don't, I'm too good. This happens in our business as well. Where people make it. And they feel they're too entitled to go around on an appointment and meet with somebody, right? Six figure golfers. There's no way I'm going to come sit down with you. Who do you think you are? Like, you realize how much money I make?

They kind of start believing they're on hype. He says, here's what I did. How did you save we work? He says, I came in and I knew what my solution was going to be. He said, it was making 2000 calls a week for one straight year then I was going to turn the company around. And he says, what was the caller right? He just said and he says he sits there right in front of his desk. He's got to call and make a phone call. Hey, John, this is, this is after make 2006 minute calls per month and I can turn

it around within a year. 2006 minute calls per in a, and I'll turn the company on within a year. He calls all the property people that don't want to pay the rent anymore. He's calling all the people we work. He's calling all the clients. Hey, so this is Sunday, look, we got to just want to call and say, how are things, what's going on?

Ta-da-da, great, fantastic. Look, we got to get that payment. I understand you don't want to pay it. I understand you're going through struggles, but let me tell you something, you got your PPP. You got the house you're looking at. Nobody told you to buy seven, understand? You go through struggles, but let me tell you something. You got your PPP, you got the house you're looking at. Nobody told you to buy seven, you know, Bugatti's nobody told you to go buy that $40 million

home, nobody told you to do all that other stuff. You did it. I need that payment to be made, and I need that payment to be made now. Okay, great. He says, that's what I do all day to save a company. A guy like that in the investment bank in the world ends up gaining so much respect from

the street. Because he does the work. Because he does the work. Yeah. There's a reason why he's running the we work and replacing Adam Newman and some guy who's out there in investment banker who's making a senior broker, he's making a million, million and a half. He thinks he's already made it and he doesn't want to go.

Here's another guy that comes in. He's worth a half a bill. This guy's going to end up being a half a billion dollar type of guy. The CEO of a, we work, right? They're not making a phone calls. Going back to the drawing board, he says, look, running a company and sales, you got to make the phone calls. Unfortunately, in the world of business, many people don't make the phone calls.

I tell you, Ron Paul's story and then we'll go to the next story. I'm sitting with Ron Paul four years ago. We're in Houston. And we, we with us, so we're sitting with Ron Paul and it was four years ago. And I'm interviewing with Ron Paul four years ago. We're in Houston. And we, we, we with us, we're sitting with Ron Paul and it was four years ago and I'm interviewing the guy. And what a genius of him. His brain is a very interesting brain, right? And he says, you know, you're a go-and-doctor.

I think it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, did it were 4,000 babies? This was right after the, there was that shooting. His son got shot at or the congressional, yeah. Yeah, it was pretty ugly. But, but he used to be a doctor and I think he delivered 4,000 babies. I don't know, I think it's a 4,000 baby, the number that he talks about.

He says, one day I hear about the economist. He says, so I go, while I'm a doctor, I go to a hearing speak and I go once and I go twice, I go three times, I go four times. He's like, he go back to the guy and he tells the guy, I don't know who it was. This is I tell the guy that look, I can't get the stuff out of my head. And I want to tell the world about it.

What do I do? Ron Paul gave them what's a ridiculous story. Watch what he says. He says, the guy told me, Ron, don't worry about it. He says, when you believe in a real cause, when you believe in a real cause, and it's not fake, and you can't help but talk about it, it's a crusade. You can't help I talk about it. Don't worry. The right people will eventually find you and give you a platform. What a statement

right? And look at the guy what he did. He raised six million hours on my space in 24 hours and that became the at 69 years old and everybody realized raising money is on social media. So around all his whole campaign, do it. It stole the whole love and everything like that love revolution He also said something else in that that was really brilliant That he you asked them what the problem was this might have been off air while we were setting up the cameras He asked them you know, what what's the problem Washington? Like why why can't people get together and he said Everybody's a lawyer. They're trained to win. Oh yeah.

No, he said that, that's it. He said that, oh, they don't care if they're right or wrong. They're literally trained winners. They're trained to win no matter what. So that's you go to law school to learn how to win. That's literally it. Not to go so. Yeah, so he's a doctor.

And then he was describing to you that there's maybe like four other business men And there's one guy from MIT and then everybody else is a lawyer So you have two people then they're they can tell you you know over dinner like hey look You're totally right about this. We this is something that we shouldn't do and then the next day on the forum Be like we have to do this. This is for America. It doesn't matter. They just They're to win. And he thinks because they're lawyers, there's not enough of a cross section. There's no teachers in Congress. There's no farmers in Congress. There's no entrepreneurs barely entrepreneurs.

You know, if you even if you want to count, you know, Mitt Romney, I mean, he cuts people up and chops them in half. You know what I mean, he's not a, he doesn't build businesses. He actually made his entire career on tearing them down and parting them out. He's a, he runs a chop shop, you know what I'm saying? So not that you would know anything about that. But yeah, so I mean, that's, that's part of this interesting thing as well. You know, when we keep, every time I listen to the podcast and your value tanners, you know, they, they they're comments are great.

And they're always something to the effect of everybody wants consensus. Pat's always talking about the left and the right have to come together. The people online respond to that. And it's not that we're in some sort of isolated echo chamber where it's like, hey, working together helps. Like every human on earth knows that working together

is better than going head to head with each other. But there has to be some sort of examination of the functions at place that preclude us from being able to do this. Like why can't we get together? And this is one of the things Ron Paul said that I thought was really, really salient. They're lawyers.

They're not here for consensus. You think his son stands a chance? No. He's made too many enemies calling too many people out. I like Rand Paul. I do. I like Thomas Massey. I like Tulsi Gabbard. You know, I like the... Who's the biggest enemy's created? If I want the biggest enemies or no, there's no... Oh, that has to be.

Has to be. But remember, he does the forensic analysis every year. Every year he goes and filibusters and talks about the dumbest purchases the government made. Every year, he goes through the budget and says, you know, we spent $450,000 to what, you know, to, for Pakistan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

$10 million. Oh, though, it was one thing, they did something where do beavers have better sex on cocaine yes i don't i don't think we needed to spend three hundred thousand dollars to watch his his one of his uh... things are you to their day and i was like really studying those are kickbacks man those are kickbacks he's calling out corruption without calling out corruption

so whoever sponsored those bills is looking at rampal going this monella nobody would know that. He's a brass guy. You know how they say James O'Keefe, you know I say you got to have brass to be able to do what he does. You know he goes up and you know some of the stuff we've heard about behind closed doors at whatever you know. But again for him to do what he does you got to brass to do that. There's certain guys like him brass, Gaudi brass, Rand brass.

You know, you can all see. Tossy's brass. Tossy. Tossy's brass is so approachable and likable. brass, uh, Rand brass. It, you know, you don't see, tossies brass, tossies, tossies brass is so approachable and likable. To, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to,

to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, market, but very attractive. But Talsy has legs, meaning she can have a career in politics and actually make some change in the next few decades. But going back to the Rampal story,

or the story Sandeep, the COE work, the whole thing is about long-term thinking. You don't make a change, this dramatic in three, six months. You gotta have a vision, now you sit there and say, look guys, we're not really solving for $2.21, we'll solve them for $2.41,

$2.41, that's how you got to be thinking. And I think $2.41, a real shift can be made. Go look at the all-begined influencers right now. Bring them together. Unitle, have a conversation with them. What can we do? If this thing really matters, because there's two things here, there's a couple of things you got to be thinking about.

One is, take the left, take the right. There are those who are influencers who are on the left, or the right, that their brand matters more to them than the crusade management. I don't know if that makes sense or not. You know what I'm saying? Let me explain it to you. Let me explain it to you. Okay. There are certain people that wouldn't give up the celebrity status of who they are for the freedoms that who they get as a country. Meaning, they need the credit. There needs to be credit.

No, no, but I'm doing it, but it's me, but I'm doing it. If it's really not about the credit and if it's really about how much you wanna help save this country, well then come together. Well then come together and pull it off. If it's really about you wanna really bring everybody together, let's bring everybody together. Why don't all of you guys come together and create a media company to get everybody

owns a half percent, a quarter percent, a 1 percent. Yes, I'm talking about the big, big, big dogs, like have millions on top of millions of followers. Go build something together. You know Pat, to touch on that point. The money's not going to be hard to raise. No, it's not going to be hard to raise. But you know what I like to touch on that point though, is that's what Politicon is made for. Politicon is made for that and like for example, Ben Shapiro offered AOC $10,000 to debate she won't do it.

So if you really believe in what you're talking about, why aren't these liberals going on there and actually debating? Because they're going to fall apart. So I agree with you're coming from Pat. A hundred percent I agree with that. The issue is some people are not showing up to with you when you're coming from Pat. A hundred percent, I agree with that. The issue is some people are not showing up to the table when you're beginning called out. But AOC's low-hanging fruit.

Why didn't he bring on Nome Chomsky? Why didn't he bring on? No, no, I agree with you, but she's allowed his mouth. So if you're really gonna push, like she was a boss mouth. She, so you gotta go after the loudest mouth. Does it make sense? So like, for example, when Trump was president,

she went to the border and she picked her over crying. Yeah. Okay. Then, Biden's president, she went to the border and she picked her over crying, right? Okay. Then Biden's president, it's climate change because of immigration problems. You pulled that out. But in fairness, I cannot believe, bro. I am begging you, please don't make me defend AOC.

I beg you. But she did, in fairness, call out Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. No, I agree with you. But what I'm telling you is that she's blaming the border issue on climate change. There's a video on her. I know.

I'm doing that. Like this is a hoax. This is this is BS. She's got called out so many times. Can this own so calls her out right there. You know what I mean? So it's like the whole thing with her grandmother. Oh, that that's not.

Come on. That's not what I'm going to give you $100. She made a billion and a half off merch because capitalism's awesome, by the way. She makes a million and a half off merch. It's my grandma, can't eat. But you're gonna blame Trump. Byron and banana, dog shit. When Puerto Rico has been one of the most corrupt segments, America's had for years,

but because it's Trump. It's just ridiculous. So whatever it is that whenever she gets called out, she doesn't show up. The Latin American community, not that you can speak for the entire Latin American community, but it's very, very interesting to me that how fervently Democrat a lot of them are, but their belief systems for the people that I know, it's like all the way through and through. Hard work, faith, family. You know, like that's, you know, this is not exactly- Brotherly, it's very simple.

It's very simple. The land community only votes Democrat for one reason and one reason only. It's because they want, or they think, that voting Democrat, it's going to get their field punch out, to come over the border and get a job here. That's it. When you talk about the actual views, alignments, vision of the Hispanic community has, it is the opposite of the Democrat party. It is the opposite of the Democrat party.

But all you have to do is grab one subject. For example, what the black community, you grab one subject, which was not one subject. Racism. What the Hispanics, immigration, you got them. The rest, they're blinded. They're voting.

It's a one issue voter. One issue though, though Trump put a DNC double AP on a 10 year plan, Obama had it on a year to year funding, though he created the first step act which released 4,000 prisoners from non-violent offenses, which 75% of them were black. Though the lowest unemployment for Hispanics and blacks were under Trump, that's just facts.

People don't have to agree, facts don't care about your feelings, people. I just hope you guys understand that, okay? These are facts. But, yeah, because it's bullshit. So what I'm getting at is that, but all you have to do is bring up racism. And you do that boom, everything else goes out to window.

Yeah, but, yeah, but. So it's like, yeah, 99% of things, one but. And they'll literally vote for one person in the Hispanic community does the same thing. Like I was having a conversation with. When Hillary Clinton pulled out the hot sauce and did that, did that, did that, did that, did it win you a show? No, for example, like, and I'm gonna,

we're gonna be one right now. What, my, we't win you no, for example like and I'm gonna we're gonna one right now What my work were that was I was ridiculous so I'm a am I am I I love this to Lula I love my in laws like to death right I shut up to my in laws. I love them They are they are like parents. I never had right. I love them. They did just the greatest people They're just great people right and? And they're very open to listening. So when I go to the house, I'm hammering them. And I'm like, the TV's on like, that's bullshit, that's a lie, that's bullshit. Like the whole time that you mentidas,

you know that, like I'm just throwing shit at the TV the whole time. I'm like, you get so many streets of the channel, right? And so they believe me because they trust me. Still, and I'm not against it. I don't want to be one of those, I'm not against it. I believe your body, your choice. After we told them and I showed them all the information

on not to get jabbed, right? They still winded your job. And I said, why if I showed you everything? Because the problem, Pat says this all the time, it's the last appointment of the day. Their last appointment of the day is when he was young. It's not me. So I can say whatever I want, for seven hours,

the last two hours before they go to sleep, they go to sleep with that in mind. So they went to a good job. It's like, I just showed you all the information, blood calculations, Pfizer's bringing you through. You have to forgive me. I don't watch a lot of Telemundo. So it's like, it's just,

I thought for sure you were a Telemundo guy. I give my weather check. I give my weather I give my weather from Tella mode that I Spanish propaganda uh-huh it's propaganda so like for example Jorge Ramos's daughter Paola Ramos I think her name is Paola Ramos. You're nailing all these again. Tray galley. Yeah. So Paola Ramos if I'm mistaken She worked for the clean campaign. So then you went to one, you got your wife or get almost, so it's CNN, it's Spanish CNN. I can Spanish CNN, bro. And so what I'm getting at is that

even having a me in the family, even having a me, the TV has more power over that. But generationally, the more men like you come in, set down roots in the country, you're flipping them. I'm gonna flip them. Yeah, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a crazy question. Ready? Here's a crazy question for you.

All right, crazy question. I want you to think about this. Okay. How many people do you think you're going to directly or indirectly flip in the next 10 years, 10 years, directly or indirectly flip? Remember, key is not finding people who agree with you. The key word is flip. me I'm gonna ask you the question as well. I want you to think about it as well

I'm gonna I'm gonna add so so 10 years after after the new this new president came in I got and I'm not exaggerating probably pat about 150 messages from people that disagreed with me before and now saw what happened They're like, bro, you were right about everything that you said. So I'm hoping I have actually have a target number. I'm hoping at least in the Hispanic community within the next 10 years, I wanna hopefully influence Flip

or start conversations that actually duplicates. I wanna flip at least a half a million in the next 10 years. I think you could easily do that. I wanna flip 100 times. By the way, but you're not how big of a number that is? That's a big number. You know how big of a number that is to, remember, it's not find a free.

No, there's a big difference. There's a big difference. You may have a million people that agree with you, but a 900 of them agreed with you, a 100,000 of them flipped. That 100,000 is the key. What do you say? How many people you think you flip

or you think you're gonna flip next 10 years? I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. But what I try to do, especially with my comedy, is I try to take kind of complex political issues like we're talking about now and try to distill them down for everyday people. My big thing, I don't know how many people I want to flip, but I just want them to be aware of the consequences of the policies that they support. That's a formal flipping, right?

So, let me give you a perfect example, right? So, if somebody says something, that should be illegal, okay? A lot of people will say, well, that should be illegal and they don't understand the consequence of what exactly they're saying. So what I'm saying is, is like, okay, if that should be illegal, what you're saying is,

is if I do that, then a man with a gun should come to my house and pull it to my face and say, get in that cage or else I'm going to kill you. That's what that is, right? So like every new law that we create, I just want people to understand, like, okay, you're creating an opportunity for somebody to say, do the same to you. Exactly. Later on. And I'm going to, I'm going to kidnap you at gunpoint. I mean, really, like, that's what being arrested is. Being arrested is the state kidnapping you at gunpoint.

Now, maybe you deserved it. Maybe you didn't. But that is what being arrested is. Be very, very clear. So I try to describe that to people like, being arrested is being kidnapped at gunpoint. By the state, you know what I'm saying? So whatever law we create, like maybe you don't want weed to be legal, you have your reasons for it, and that's fine. But should somebody really be kidnapped at gunpoint for having a plant in their possession, I just can't abide by that.

Right? So there's things that should piss you off. I don't think everybody should be able to become the barracuse. You're not to get too deep into it, but you off. I don't think everybody should be able to come to the bar with you. Not to get too deep into it, but you can't talk about my body, my choice before. Like I think an abortion is the absolute worst thing somebody can do. I personally am so far against it, but I don't think it should be illegal

because it's not my choice for other people to do what they do. I agree with you. And when you make something illegal, I don't think it stops. I think somebody that's that, that's for- You don't be a black market friend. They're gonna do it themselves.

And then you create an entire environment of, you said the quote, what was the Abraham Lincoln quote? You told Abraham Lincoln quote, you have Rudy Giuliani. The whole thing is the meaning do not let, it's the whole industrial, the military industrial complex that Eisenhower had, which is they used communism against anything else, which means the same things that they fought for

Lincoln gave the same thing. It's obviously a longer paragraph to read. But it was about prohibition doesn't actually stop crime. It creates crime, right? Creating a prohibition doesn't stop the crime. It creates criminals out of people who weren't criminals. And that's my thing. So I'm kind of avoiding your answer. You know what that means. You know what it means when he of people who weren't criminals. And that's my thing. So,

I'm kind of avoiding your answer. You know what that means. You know what it means when he says prohibition. Of course. You know, you're restricting it. You stop and look what happened. They're going to do it anyways. It was illegal. And now, like, you know, how many people go, well, like just the other day, you come into house, how much liquor do we have right now at the house, that we have to fill up the cellar, the 15 hours. No, honestly, how much you have, you've got a nightclubs worth of booze. If you see what's in the house right now, right? I would be arrested I would be arrested 50 years ago for the monologue of my house right now For you would have spent the rest of your life in jail. It for the rest of your life You got to understand for the rest of your life

That's the party like you're taking people's lives away Especially you talk about nonviolent criminals. We talked about Russ Olbrick We talk about why because he's too money about Russ Olbrick, we talked about why? Because he's told money from the government, because the government didn't get theirs. This, this, so again, I'm not out here to flip people. I really am not. I'm not out here to flip people. All the tolerant liberals that, you know, that are in your comments section, that every time

I say something, they don't have an answer for and they just call me fat. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's, I'm not here to flip them. Although I do thank you for your positive bullying. I'm down like 20 pounds. So thank you guys. You do look good. Thank you, brother.

So thank you, tolerant liberals in the comments. I think I gave you a shout out yesterday with those exercises. I don't know you, I guess you could do four plays, but 525. And that's respect. I terror back. It's 525. But the point I'm trying to make that is more than anything else. I'm not here to flip. Well, let me give you a question. I just want them to understand what they're what they're advocating from a guy from the outside that all I look at,

I like data and results. That's me. That's how I'm driven. I like data and results, meaning Ben Simmons scored five points yesterday. Okay. He's got to get traded. Done. That rivers can answer the question because he didn't believe it, right? The Philadelphia 76ers should be going to the finals right now, but a trade young beat him, embarrassing in game seven. Shouldn't be happening. Now Durant lost because he had a teammate that's probably the worst teammate in the NBA, which is Kyrie Irving.

He shows up when he wants to. Harden was hurt. He pulled a buy himself. He almost beat Milwaukee single-handed lead without any help. Yeah He did by himself So Durant is not leaving a playoffs with anybody giving him criticism Durant's leaving a playoff Everybody say everybody saying he's the greatest player in the league today, right today, right? So data yeah Ben Simmons

Guess what you suck because your attitude sucks your attitude Absolutely sucks. He has this attitude about himself that he doesn't have to improve on anything. That's the biggest challenge with them. This guy could be the next LeBron James. This guy could be the next face of the league, but he doesn't think he has any area to improve in. That's a weakness.

Let's talk data. Here's data for you. Historically, who in your life shifted your way of thinking? Give me three names. Who in your life that you think about? And what part of... Say politics, capitalism your way of thinking? Give me three names. Who in your life that you think about? Shit. And what part of... Say politics, capitalism, way of thinking.

And politics and capitalism was you. Okay, so give me two other names. Who in your life got you to think of certain things? It could be spiritual. It could be marriage. It could be finances. It could be business. It could be politics.

Who flipped you? Does it have to be somebody I met or is it, can it be somebody I met or not? No, not at all. It could be a distance. Could be a Milton Who flipped you? Does it have to be somebody that matters? Can it be somebody that matters? No, not at all. Could be a distance. Could be a Milton Friedman. I've never met Milton Friedman, right? Yeah. Who could it be for who's it for you?

Fliped or just influenced in general? For you to say, damn, that makes sense. You know what? Maybe they want to thank you right now. Right. It's my way of thinking. Yes. Okay.

Tell me, for on a personal level, to be a little bit more careful with my decisions at whom I'm around, I'm going to say it's going to be my grandmother. Okay. She's like, very like, careful with my decisions and who I'm around. I'm gonna say it's gonna be my grandmother. Okay. She's like very like, hey, be aware of who's around you, not everybody's your friend, because I used to be very trusting, you know, not like trusting me like you're young and naive.

So you think everybody's out to help you with politics and with politics and capitalism, obviously it was you. And then as far as taking things a little bit more to a whole another level of Making a how can I explain it making it a an actual career not career, but a Making a bold move in a statement. I think some means gonna be going to be my buddy, Jesse, with legs, it's like, hey, we really need to push.

It's not just you believing in your perspective on what's happening with America. We need to drive this to the Jesse from... So, from legs of movement. So, PBD, Jesse, Grandmother, yeah. Okay, who's for you? Three names. Well, I don't know his name. It's crazy, but one of the most influential moments in my life was that Navy sale gave the speech

When I was with the Cardinals got and that you've told me that story that's sick. That was that was one of the most That was like transformative. You called it the best motivational speech you've ever heard and you've heard thousands Yeah, and it tell everybody since they're listening could be good for them to hear it. Okay All right, so when I when I was in the minor leagues, one of the things that they they do is they have these they bring everybody in the Inauditorium once a week. I imagine similar like, you know, sales executives and they give these motivational speeches and they have these speakers come in and they get You know an hour and it's normally horrible. It's normally the worst hour of your entire week. You got to listen to this guy. You don't try hard. If you're not working hard, the other guy blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I'm like, yeah, we get that. And we can get here, find not working hard. Not understanding that, jerk. Yeah, but there was one guy came in, he was Navy Seal. And knowing these guys wear suits and everything like that, this dude was in T-shirts, jeans and flip flops. Kind of a little dude, like not like what you would expect the Navy Seal or whatever and

He stands up and he's like who here has heard Pain is weakness leaving the body and we're like here. We go again He's like that is the dumbest shit anybody's ever set out loud And we're like what he was like who here has heard that if you're not working hard Somebody else is gonna outwork you and then when you meet them. They'll win and we're like yeah And they were like, yeah, because rest isn't important. And like, you know, if you if you over train and tear your tear your knee, did your did your ACL lack will? And so we were like, what is this guy talking so the antithesis?

Unconventional. It was the antithesis of everything we've ever heard. But the winner turns it is what made that. And he says this is the deal, man. He goes this sucks waking up at six o'clock in the morning and running and working out and then going for batting practice all a day and then hitting the gym and that that sucks. But you do it anyway. And you can't trick yourself into saying something that sucks doesn't suck. You can't be on the third mile of a three and a half mile, 95 degree run. Yeah, and be like, this is great, I love this. No, it's horrible, but you do it anyway.

And everybody else, when it gets horrible, they quit. And that's why you're you and there them. Know it sucks and do it anyway. Embrace the suck. That was his whole thing. Embrace the suck. So number one, embrace the suck, maybe, see who else. Give me two more.

Two more, the second one was Jordan Peterson somebody that you've Interviewed very very influential in my life and the third one is probably isn't one person I went into college a pretty liberal dude very anti George Bush very anti Blood for oil it was all the liberals in my college that were doing like performative stuff and I was like man I am definitely not one of them It's crazy. You've told that story. but watch this here. So watch this here. He just gave his three. You gave your three.

Maybe he'll steal Jordan Peterson, liberal liberals at the college you want to do. A bunch of people, by the way, I'm curious, I want to hear you or somebody, some people are saying they got a list here. So I'll give you some of the names. Jordan Peterson is out here by a lot of people. Rogan PBD, Jordan Peterson, Larry Elder, Trump.

Larry Elder is bad ass. I wrote Larry Elder. Profit, Muhammad, aan PBD Jordan Peterson, Larry Elder, Trump, uh, uh, uh, prophet Muhammad, a guy said nice. Anast, uh, we have an awesome. That's interesting. Thomas old, um, Ben Shapiro, Tim Cast, mom, brother and law, you're hearing all these a freedman Reagan, Thomas, so, uh, uh, uh, so anyways, you're going through David Goggins to the Robbins. All those names, right?

When you sit there and think about it. Okay. I would have to say, my three, I would put Milton Friedman in that list. Okay, 100% Milton Friedman's got to be on that list for me. I would put, I'm trying to say, Milton Friedman would be one, I'd have to put, I enrant on that list with Atlas Schrog. Oh, I would have to put Milton Friedman would be one. I'd have to put a iron rant on that list with Atlas Schrogg. Oh, Atlas Schrogg, yeah.

I would have to put that on the list. There's a there's a guy named Mano that most people won't even know. The guy played a very important role, even though something stuff happened to him. He was a very important guy for me. M-O-N-O. M-A-N-R, meaning guy who used to go to his place

and we would sit there from Friday nights. Every Friday night, for about two years, from six o'clock to two o'clock in the morning, we debated religion and politics as what we did. And from six p.m. to two in the morning, with myself, it was myself, Armond, Armand. The owner of Armond. The owner of Armond. Yeah, he introduced me to him, by the way.

Armond, Armond, who ended up committing who took his life and Couple other things is stories stories that we had that we go there anyways So these guys flipping but you know Example why it's that but flipping is different. There's example. There's flip. I'm talking flipping Flipping is you're sitting and you're like Damn, I never thought about that way before right? I never thought the art of flipping is not people who are extremely loud emotional. That's not the art of flipping.

No, there's subtle. Obama flipped people. Yeah. And he did it in his own way. Obama did. Obama got Republicans to say, Sky's not that bad. Let me vote for this guy.

He's a flipper, okay? Trump flipped people. Like him or not, he flipped people. He got some people to say, I like this guy. Bill Clinton flipped people. Reagan flipped people. Reagan, when he won, and the day of inauguration, Homanie sends all the different POWs,

30 minutes after he's given his speech, and he says, this happened because of Jimmy Carter. He didn't take the credit. So he got the Democratic audience to say, shit, how do you not like this guy, man? Fucking giving credit. To the guy he just beat, you gotta love this guy, right? He flipped people.

The art of, we need more people today who are learning how to flip instead of talking to people like their idiots. Nobody flips when you think the audience is an idiot. Not on the left, not on the the right the art of flipping people is not What an idiot what makes now? I'm not gonna flip like that. There's got to be a complete different way to presenting an argument to a person to say You know, I never thought about that way before that's the key You just said presenting an argument having an actual real debate. It doesn't happen now

It's all canned debates. That's really just propaganda. It's really just their message in the form of a quote unquote debate. But nobody's having these conversations, these open and honest conversations. And there has to be some sort of, it's us too, we gotta check ourselves as well. We have to allow ourselves to be open to that new information as well.

It can't just be like, you said something once that was really, really smart, Pat. And it was something to the effect of too many people listen to talk, they don't listen to here, right? Like I think. And that's the true reply. Yeah, and I do that as well as well. Like, I'm as guilty of that as anybody.

It's like, especially when I'm in a debate. I think it's human nature to want to do that. You have to, you know, that's something I love about Rogan. Rogan, for whatever people say about Rogan, and for some reason, the left absolutely hates Rogan now. But, you know, he legitimately listens to every guest he has on, and he takes in the information and he says, okay, he tries to... How do you not love a guy like that?

How do you not, it'd be so necessary. As Brian Stelter. No. But you have to realize, guys, the truth that it matters with Brian Stelter and Rogan, here's what happens, guys, the truth that it matters is what Brian Stelter and Broken, here's what happens, guys. You have to understand how the game of competition works. One of the best quotes I ever read about parenting, which Dudley Rutherford told me was a follow-on.

He says, parenting, fatherhood goes through three phases. It's you first idolize, oh my gosh, my dad's my hero, like my sons are in the idolizing phase right now, okay? They think I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread. I'm not naive, because you know what's next phase? Demonize. It's demonize.

Oh my gosh, just guys, a frickin' worse father of all time. Leave me the hell alone, stop it. I'm just so sick and tired of this. And then you humanize. So you know what? Freakin' A, this guy seemed right. Yeah, it's my pops. You know, he's not perfect.

I'm not perfect. You kind of go through that phase, right? Competition goes through the phase as well. That's the competition. They first laugh at you, then they violently oppose you, then you become self-evident, right? I mean, it's very simple. You cannot, you can violently oppose anybody

that's coming up in every competition this happens. They violently, you know, try young, he's not, he's not the next step curry. There are about seven new rookie cards of try young. The month of the pandemic, a guy needed, he's not the next step curry. There are about 70 rookie cards of Trey Young. The month of the pandemic, a guy needed money because the market hit, took a hit. He said, I'm dropping 70. He just said, do that, pay you. What do you want to do?

He sold to me for nothing. I made four X on the money. I bought 70 rookie cards, PSA, 10 of Trey Young. I said, Trey got a Trey Young, right? Oh, there's no end to world. And he has to go out and say, well, this guy's a baller. He's a John, and then you know, all the comment, we always know he was a baller. He didn't say he's a baller. You said this guy's going to choke, but he showed up in a four

quarter hit to three when it was necessary. Even when he's five, four for 22, he hits that three, right? You are going to go through that face right now. You know what, you know, what status, uh, Rogan has earned? It's a very unique status. And that's the status everybody fears the competition fears fears and they want to destroy the last status you get to is saint status you know what saint status saint oh yeah of course you know what saint status you're untouchable you're untouchable rogan is saint status he's saint status well then why Spotify taking all of his podcast they can do why he let them they can do whatever they want to do to the guy.

He's saying status. The only problem with saints, here's the only problem with saints. You know, it's a problem with saints. They were one sinners. So the opposition can always go and find a bunch of dirt on them and they will have to pay pre-mute to bring it out to trash them. So just wait the next two, three, four, five years on strategies on trial. I'm telling you right now, Rogan doesn't

walk on water. Rogan who he is today is because he's made mistakes and he becomes the person who has a lot of perspective at his level. I guarantee you that person's made a lot more stupid mistakes behind closures that a lot of people don't know about. Then I hope he owns it, man, because you know what, I don't think anybody wants somebody perfect anymore. We're in the era of office. I think, but I think I think I hope he's got such a big

loyal following around him that they're gonna come look when it gets to a point where, you know, you're a person that's like tiger pad. It's like who? Like tiger woods. Yeah, but this is different because the difference with tiger tiger tiger was there was an element of Tiger that I'm 10 times better than you.

Rogan doesn't think he's better than you. Oh, yeah, Rogan doesn't have that energy. Just like you and I don't know what to talk. Rogan says, I don't even know what I'm talking about. That was just all from Grace. So for Tiger, Tiger's like, yeah, he's 20 years old doing an interview, he says, what's your goal? To win 19 majors, to be the greatest of all time. Tiger's saying this at 19, 20 years old doing an interview. He says, what's your goal to win 19 majors,

to be the greatest of all time? Tiger's saying this at 19, 20 years old. I mean, that's a little bit, even Jordan said, look, I don't know what the argument, I don't know where I'm at. That's for the critics to make the feedback, but I think I'm in the argument right now. I think if you wanna make the argument with me

against magic, I think I'm finally, I'm in the argument right now, if you wanna involve me. So there was that element with the right. I think Rogan is I'm a new argument right now if you want to involve me so there was that element with the right right right I think Roganism staying staying status, but I media is gonna find stuff. Yeah, it's very easy to send money and say can you tell me something So guess what direction they're gonna go they can't go drugs because you openly talk about drugs. Yeah, the only thing they can go through is what women Test women or something like that. They're gonna try to do a woodstead one comedian Yeah, the one. Recapital.

No, no, no, not Kevin or the comedian, the comedian who was, we talk about him all the time. Louis CK, right? They're gonna try to find something. The thing is Louis, Louis did do that though. I'm not saying he did that. I'm not saying he's gonna find a video on Louis CK doing that, but they waited 10 years until yeah.

So just listen, if it happens happens don't flip and be surprised People gonna find that that this is a flawed man like anybody else. You don't earn saint status being a saint I don't think it's the audience. It's always you know the problem is it's it's the company that bails It's the people on top he's gonna have a place that pull that's I'm a place. Yeah, he will always have a place. Rogan's always gonna have a place Yeah, it's not and by the way the place that pull that's all the way to the people always have a place where it's always going to be nice to have a nice and by the way the part would rogan that's absolutely genius he's always confusing his audience and here's how he does it you know what I think i'm gonna vote for Bernie Sanders Bernie Sanders thanks joe for the

you know confidence yeah i don't know if i'm gonna vote joe Bernie Sanders i like the same guy i want to go to this uh... you know joe jordan said which who would vote for the message yeah i think i'm going to go she's awesome yeah i don't say she's not awesome but it's not a set it's not a marketer yeah a joe jordan sent to me is someone behind the scenes that coaches a libertarian on how to go out well not the face she's not a face i'd like to spike on her vice president pretty much agreed with you because he took over her campaign people actually thought spike on was a guy was running yes listen to last two libertarian

candidates are absolutely you know terrible mark we uh... we uh... anyway spot we got a surprise gift let's get a friend here is our friend here who i'm trying to get the scat on the point i'm trying to get into the place i don't know why he doesn't hit the gym. Phil, what are we hitting the gym then? I can tell the baby. Oh my gosh, we got Phil in the house. So yesterday Phil says, he says, look, when it comes on to judging, you have to be able to judge on the following different things. He says, like, look at this. Phil goes like this. It's 12.30 in 30. Just look at the skin. Look at this.

You can't judge that. How you doing, man? How you feeling? I'm great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you hear the opening about the, you know, my taking shots at Mr. Olympia or now you didn't hear that part at the beginning? So I don't want to get you in trouble. Just so if anybody from the Olympia brand is listening, he is not an agreement with me. This is me saying it. I'd stand for my opinions, he has his own opinions, but it's good to have him Florida. No, I think he was great to be here. Yeah. How's the field man being in Florida? How you doing?

I think I need a change. Yeah. I think I'm excited to hear more about the change. Yes. And I think a lot of people are curious to know what that change is. But we know the change, but some people don't know the change, but it's going to be exciting to talk about the change. And I think a lot of people are curious to know what that change is. But we know the change, but some people don't know the change, but it's gonna be exciting to talk about the change. Absolutely. For the right time, when the right time comes,

we'll talk about the change. What do you have any idea what the hell they're talking about? I have no idea. I'm just here pretending like I know what they're talking about. Oh my gosh, yeah. So it's, we were just right now, we were just right now, what happened? Mike put it closer.

Okay, we were just right now. And by the way now. What happened? Mike put it closer. Okay. We were just right now. And by the way, you got to tell me, bro, even though how long has it been since you competed September? No, December. December 18th birthday. Right on your birthday. Yeah, it's used to do.

You still look really good. Yeah. Seven times. You think it's gonna be good tonight? Crazy. Yeah. Crazy to have that going on. But what do you want to say, man?

What do you want to say to people? What's on your mind right now? Oh, right now. I mean, obviously we're living through an interesting time. And I will use one of your lines and say that the future is very, very bright. And especially for those people who know how to respond to the call of action right now. And they have to figure that out for themselves. But once they figure out that why, and dig deeper and deeper and deeper, respond to the call of action right now. And they have to figure that out for themselves, but once they figure out that why, and dig deeper,

and deeper, and deeper, almost to where emotions come out, they can then develop those strategies necessary for their own level of personal greatness. And I've been traveling around now, and I've been meeting a lot of different people and they've been feeling the same way. So I'm really encouraged to spread more positivity to everybody letting them know that, you know, with the world opening up, especially in America with gyms, thank goodness,

because a lot of people are dealing with their mental health. That, you know, they just really have to stay positive and continue the good fight. Yeah, I mean, that's one big thing when, by the way, one story I have here, the story was that the shutdown, did you see that story? Do we, which story is, did you put the story up with the lockdown, there you go, Harvard data, matter of fact, I'm just gonna read that right now since you brought that up because,

go to page five. Page five? I think this is a story that Phil just kind of brought up right now, new Harvard data accidentally reveals how lockdowns crushed the working class while leaving elites unscathed, right? This is a foundation for economic education. New data analysis from Harvard University, Brown University,

and the Bill and Mullin the Gates Foundation calculate how different employment levels have been impacted during the pandemic today. The findings reveals that the government locked down orders devastated workers at the bottom of the financial food chain, but left to upper tier actually better off. It's interesting that the lockdown was to protect the bottom, but it actually ended up hurting the bottom is what it did.

The analysis examined employment levels in January 2020 before the coronavirus spread wildly, before lockdowns orders and other restrictions on the economy were implemented. It compared them to unemployment figures from March 31, 2021. Here's a data. Employment for lower wage workers defined as earning less than $27,000 a year annually, declined by whopping 23.6% over the time period. Employment for middle-class wage workers defined as earning between 27 to 60 grand, declined by 4.5%. However, employment for high wage workers defined as earning more than 60K.

This is not even a million, by the way. Above 60K actually increased 2.4% over the measured time period. Despite the country's economic turmoil, the data are damning. They offer yet another reminder that government lockdowns hurt most. Those who could have least afford it. You talk about gyms. I can't even tell you how many people were calling and saying, what the hell do I go to work out?

Our office had a gym. People who had no gym memberships other places that were shut down, they were coming to the office to work out on the weekends. At our office in Dallas. I mean, hell, I didn't have a gym, you know, getting ready for the Olympia. Luckily, I was able to sneak in with a key and literally had to train with the lights off

and parking down the street so then no one could see me, you know, training during the day or at night. My question would be, how can I look like you without needing the gym? I think that's the way it should be. I think everybody's asking, run, run, run, run. Look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, you just implicate themself in a felony as well.

By the way, thanks for that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Gerard, do you look like you want to say something about this? I'm just implicated myself in a felony as well. By the way, thanks a lot. Gerard, you look like you want to say something about this. Oh, man, I should let everybody else go first because I feel pretty strongly about this one, man. Tell us what you're doing. Look, this is endemic of a wider societal issue. The elites are so far gone.

They're so far gone from the reality of everyday life. You know, these are people that, you know, when they were shutting down the coal mines, they were like, well, just learn how to code. Well, I want these guys just learn how to code, man. They're 45 years old, 50 years old. They've been working in a mine for 20 years, and you're like, yeah, just go to the bri and learn how to code,

get a job in IT. They work remotely. These are people with high paying, six figure jobs that all they need is high-speed internet and they can work from Aspen and they're like, well, who cares if I don't have to go to an office? They don't think about the office building supports the dry cleaner down the block, supports the pizza rear down the block, the barber down the block. There's an entire ecosystem that is around supporting them, the high wage earner, but they've been,

they've spent their whole life going to private schools, going to, you know, these high-end Ivy League universities and then they go to these Google campuses. They've never been around, quote unquote, normal people. You know, this is where you get this gal Gadot, you know, and all these Hollywood elites thinking they're going to cheer us up during the quarantine, like, you know, singing that song, imagine, like we're in this together, guys. And it's Malibu in her backyard with a 20,000 square foot house.

And I'm sitting in here in a one bedroom in Jersey city above it in the in restaurant, going out of my mind. Like we are in this together. We are not in this the same. Get the hell out of this. I'm smelling curry 24 seven. Get the Gilgit Dowa. I swear to God, you're you say one more time I am gonna

Oh, say thanks to the God of Tillers gym in Jersey brother bro They shut down the gyms and the churches during a pandemic so we can't be healthy spiritually emotionally or physically But they kept the liquor stores in Burger King open man like come on bro. This is what I'm talking about This is a let them eat cake moment. This is why I love Gerard. I love data. So I brought Billy Bean to one of our events. I don't know what it was, two years ago. Two years ago, I brought Billy Bean to MGM.

Yeah, but we only did it at the MD meeting. It was only the broker's meeting. It wasn't for everybody, right? And I'm interviewing Billy Bean. He says, you know, when you're winning, you love data. When you're losing, you hate looking at the numbers. Because it's not the numbers fault. It's something else.

It's this, it's this, it's this, right? It's never there, you know, it's, no, there's a whole story behind it, right? Okay. You can get up there and talk about everything you want about the right decisions we made, et cetera, et cetera. Then comes data. And then you have to say, why did Florida's shutdown format work?

Why did Texas work? Why did why why didn't California work? Why didn't New York work? I mean within a span of a week we were both in New York and in California, right? New York everywhere we're going. We're talking to the cab driver cab drivers like no We felt the shutdown half a million people have lived this place. California, we go there. Mario and I are at, I don't know where we went. We want to get this food by the water. This guy runs up, stop, stop, stop, stop.

I put the mask on, complete different environment that they got, but Phil, the gym, the fitness world, during that space, how big of a hit that they take? You know it now, like now it's after pandemic, how big of a hit have some take? You know it now, it's after pandemic, how big of a hit have some people taken? Did some people fully get out of the business? There's a lot of gems that suffer. No question about it.

And unfortunately, those personal trainers, they suffered tremendously. Because they can't, even the ones that do like online workout programs, they're working from home, but they also are working internationally. So imagine not just the people who they can help domestically in the United States, but overseas.

They still don't have gyms. So a lot of the personal trainers are like, well, what do I do? How do I really pivot? And even those influencers that are like, you know, you got bodybuilding and influencer kind of mixed together. What are they going to do? Just homework out all the time? Eventually, that became boring. And it became very, I would say, disingenuous to say that I got my physique based on this. So a lot of people had to really just take a hiatus and a lot of athletes were furloughed like crazy, a lot were let go, contracts from the supplement companies,

I mean, supplement companies, I mean, they all lost their ass tremendously. So they're just now starting to, I say turn the corner a little bit, but I think those people that are turning it are probably watching value-taming and learning how to be a better businessman, you know, to understand that this may happen again. So how do we, you know,

solve that problem? But the unfortunate part is that a lot of them still haven't figured out like a specific training module or whatever to enhance their abilities. And I know we were talking about stuff like that last night, is that? You have an online course of somebody wants to learn how you, all your secret stuff that you don't know about, is there

like an online course of five years or no? Not yet. In the process. Oh, bro. People would pay premium for that to get their hands on how you train. Like, you don't have a video that shows how you trained with a camera showing exactly your routine. I've had workout videos, you know DVDs, all that

stuff. You know, I've done collaborations with different companies, but no. Wow. Something's coming though. Something's coming. I hope so because I know a lot of us want to jump by that. Are you kidding me? You got a seven-shot who is still in shape. Like you can compete this year if you want it 100% any plans of this year or no You know my phone's still on my phone still works My phone still works. I don't know those guys have called you or not the folks from What is the brand called mr. Olympia, right? Yes, you still play basketball?

2k But I You still play basketball, Phil? 2K. But. I mean, is this a challenge? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no to get back out there at, you know, over 250 pounds. It's difficult, right? It's not smart. Yeah. You're asking, you're really asking for a problem. I mean, what do you mean by that a problem? Well, for me, I mean, normally I would get up to like 275, you know, off season right now, like at 250.

I had actually tore my MCL about a year and a half ago and competed with it. So I'm only imagining, like, if I decided to go out and run, that I probably wouldn't tear something else. Oh, I see. What is it though? Is it the weight? It's the torque. I mean, like, yeah, yeah.

I mean, you gotta go. I mean, look, when I played ball in college, I was 175 pounds. Right, right. You know, you look it up on the internet. I mean, I was pretty darn lean at the time. You were I saw pictures of you. And now you got basically 80 pounds on that. Right, right. You're going to and much more years. Right, right. On those joints. Plus your muscles grow, your ligaments don't. Yeah, you're just begging for a problem. Oh, I see. I see. Interesting. How's a Coleman doing? He was he he was, he was, he have surgeries that way he was working with me.

Numerous. Yeah, so he's had numerous surgeries, but you know, I definitely feel like he's finding his way. Yeah. He seems a lot. One thing I'll give Ronnie Coleman is his level of positivity throughout this entire process. Yeah. I mean, I couldn't imagine.

I mean, I had two hernias surgeries in two years and I was definitely not happy with my surgeon. You know, at some point, for him to have more than 10. I mean, and still go to appearances. I mean, I'd be doing appearances with Coleman overseas. And he's standing as long as he, and he's supposed to be sitting down in a wheelchair. And this man would, you know, get up, stand up, shake hands with people, listen to their stories

for six hours straight Wow, you guys are men of sheer will there's no way Oh, yeah, no Shout out to staying positive. It's work well for Charlie Sheen. So everybody should Just big inspiration big inspiration big inspiration for that. I want to go to a different story I want to go to a story here We got about the American dream. And I don't know if you've seen the story or not,

but if you want to go to page, American Dream is what page guy? Is it on page two? It's page two. Okay, go to page two on the bottom. How the two biggest status symbols of the American dream came to pose the greatest risk on inflation crisis, business insider story.

Owning a house and a car has symbolized the American dream since the end of World War II. But these markers of 20th century prosperity are posing the 24th century greatest inflation risk. By May, a popular gauge of broad price growth had leaped to its highest levels since 2008. Conservative economists and lawmakers have raised fears that unless the government

reigns in its spending, the US risks repeating the crippling spiral of runway inflation from 1970s. These months of decade high inflation, driven largely by home and car prices are now the principal risk to the economy, economic recovery, Fannie Mae said in a Wednesday report, unless bottlenecks are quickly alleviated and price growth cools

inflation that's been largely deemed temporarily by the Federal Reserve could plunge into the US into a new economic crisis. The company's economic and strategic research group set. By the way, do you think the owning a house is still the American dream? Would you say it's still an American dream? How would you? What would you say is the American dream today? To you.

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I think the American dream is different depending on where you are. I think the Texas American dream, Florida American dream is different than the New York American dream. Like, and I think it's cultural now too. I think for some people, it is cultural. I think for some people like having a PhD means more to them than having any,

than having, yeah. That's actually a very good point. Like Tim Grover, like Tim Grover, Tim Grover's dad or parents, they kind of subtly throw shots at the fact that he's not a doctor, you know, even though he's a guy. Yeah, it's a status. It's a status.

It's a status for that. You know, I was reading the book, winning. He's talking about that. So this day, he's subtly throwing. Yeah. You were a doctor. He's Indian. Indian, of course. Indian is what?

Engineer, doctor, lawyer, similar to Middle Eastern, what they say. But I guess I can see that, you know, for Adam. For our boy, Adam Sas, I hope, I hope, I hope, Soymann Mafia is listening right now.'s he's not so boy folks by the way he's he's a big strong man so soymand mafia uh if you're listening the american dream was house and a car and an education and the government got involved in all three markets yep and what happened that's that's all that's all I'm gonna say. Big government tax and spend

Adam sauce. Great hair, horrible politics. So if the government never got involved, 1978 community reinvestment. He's about to drop in your DM. He never, he'd drop. If he never got in, yeah, you get shack in your DMs, I get sauce in mind. We hate to say the, you remember when the whole shack thing happened when the Kobe interview, whens, I get sauce in mind. Where we hate to say the remembers when the whole Shaq thing happened when the Kobe interview when Kobe, I asked Kobe, I said, what would who would have Shaq being if you had your work ethic? And Kobe said he wouldn't been a greatest of all time. We would have won 12 championships and then Shaq got pissed and came back. But, well, you told

us that you actually never shared that story with us about Shaq getting, well, he told you, we know that there was backlash because he has to be in on that, but you never told him. Well, Shaq DM me. Yeah, he was furious saying, you know, yeah, he says, who, you know, who were you to ask a stupid question like that, you know, from Kobe, who would I have been if I would have to work ethic?

You don't even know what you're talking about. And then he just blocked me. I'm blocked from Shaq on Instagram. No way. Hashtag unblocked. Everybody tweet had Shaq. By the way, tweet Hashtag Unblocked Pat. Everybody tweet hat shack. Tweet hat shack Unblocked Pat. I would love to sit down.

Shack will be surprised if he sits with me because if you see my, my, go ahead. How many Papa John's franchises do you have to buy before Shack? No, I, I actually, I actually, by the way, feel message shack and feels like as filling Shack have done stuff together. Shaq is a big fan of Phil's work Shaq would come to watch Phil At Mr. Olympia. I think you guys have had multiple interactions together. Yeah, so but I remember oh your message

No, no, he's saying to tweet out because of what happened back in four check was pissed But if if we play you know the game pick your starting five, and I say, you got first pick, you pick MJ. My second is, you know, I'll go let you say LeBron or something like that. And then your third pick is gonna be, let you say you pick Karim. I'm picking Shaq. Yeah, 100%.

I pick Shaq because Shaq is irreplaceable. We talked about him last night. I've never seen anybody take over again. I've never, like I watched, I've watched LeBron, I've watched Jordan, I watched Bird, Matt. I've never seen anybody just decide, you know what? Now I'm just gonna score the next 50 points.

And just like, I've never seen anybody completely take over again. And then like 2000. What are you gonna do about it? Try to stop me, like that was his mindset. Try to stop me. Anyway, so yeah, so going back to this whole thing with American dream.

Yeah, I think you're right. It's different based on culture. It's different based on zip code. It's different. Do you have a different opinion of what he just said? No, no, I agree with them. I know with us, with the Hispanic community,

it's very much just as long as you can pay your bills and buy your little house and then you're good. Like to the American dream to the Hispanic to this day is still by house. Like you can, you can, you can own, you can own 100 units, Pat. You can own a sky-rise in the middle of LA. You don't own a house.

You're not crap in the Hispanic community. House in the FICO score. Yeah, and FICO score. Yeah. House in FICO score. Yeah. House in FICO score. Yeah.

House in FICO score. Yeah. House in FICO score. Yeah. House in FICO score. Yeah. House in FICO score. Yeah. House in FICO score. Yeah. House in FICO score except yours. You're a loser. Literally people will flex on this again and say, my FICO is this, this is it.

And I'm thinking, well, mine's been up and mine's been down and I still have the better credit card and the ability to spend. So you just have to. It's not buying power by the way that makes you powerful in the Hispanic community. It's the fact that you own a house or you have a high fight. So it's good right. Even where I go. Well, my dad met C.M.A.K. for the first time.

Yeah. Okay. C.M.A.K. is coming to ask my dad for his daughter, my sister, right? And we're sitting. We're like, oh my gosh. Here we go. It's going to be so weird. My dad asks him, what's your credit score? My dad asks, C.M.A.K. what is your credit score. My dad asks, you know, like, what is your credit score? It looks like, excuse me. Dude, the world needs your dad on the podcast. He is Coco David. Joey Coco David needs to come on the podcast. You want to have some conversations together? Oh, boy, man. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, we had a guy just gave $500 right now.

Norman Jay, I think that's the highest ever. I tried to comment earlier in the podcast, but I had to verify the transaction on my CC, active listening, listen for understanding, not to respond. We learned this is military leadership training. He's got his website there, www.njsdcapital.com. I am a newbie entrepreneur,

and I want to attend the Val Conference. And get on that yacht. It's a must. Norman sent us a text at 310-340-113-2 310-340-113-2. We'll have one of our guys contact you but that's the record right there we've ever had. So hey, thank you for that donation man It's but we'll have one of our guys contact you Listen in that in the Super Chat Pat if they give a thousand dollars in the Super Chat fill take a shirt off and flex

And if they give two thousand I'll put another shirt on and walk out the room. Why did somebody put a thousand dollars right now Phil? But the thousand dollars going straight to Phil if you do that because this would be like a what do you call it? You know how you go to events and you're doing guest posing? Yeah. So, so, okay let's continue here.

What else we got on stories that we haven't covered? What else we got on stories that we? Nickelodeon one Nickelodeon, you know what like you know what we're doing By the way, didn't did I do this on purpose? No, no, it's not a great. This is Tiffany. Oh, I see what you're saying Oh, you're so funny, buddy. You are so funny. That was watermelon. Watermelon.

You are talking to the blast that, the watermelon, buddy. Oh, man, oh, man, oh, man, oh, man. All right, so cold beastly. I should like what cold beastly said. Can you pull up his tweet? So cold beastly makes a public service announcement and people are flipping out over what he had to say. So he sends his tweet, gets a lot of attention obviously,

and he said, can you click on it so I can read it? So he says, look, I'm going to live my one life like I want to regardless. Everyone, hi, I'm Colby beastly and I'm not vaccinated. I will be outside doing what I do. I'll be out in the public. If you're scared of me, then steer clear or get vaccinated.

Point blank period. I may die of COVID, but I'd rather die actually living. I have family members whose days are numbered. If they want to come see me and stay at my house, then they are coming regardless of protocol. I don't play for the money anymore. My family has been taking care of. Find me if you want. My way of living and my values are more important to me than a dollar. I love my

teammates and enjoy playing ball because all the outside BS goes out the window in these moments. I just want to win the Super Bowl. Enjoy these relationships that will be created along the way. I'm not going to take my and take meds for a leg that isn't broken. I'd rather take my chances with COVID and build up my immunity that isn't broken. Let me read that one more time. Go back again, go back again, go back to the other side. He says, I'd rather take my chances with COVID and build up my immunity that isn't broken. Immunity that isn't broken.

I'd rather take my chance with COVID and build up my immunity that way. Eat better, drink water, exercise and do what I think is necessary to be healthy individual. That is my choice based on my experiences and what I think is best. I'll play for free this year to live life, how I've lived from day one.

I'm, if I'm forced into retirement so be it, I've enjoyed the times I've had. I'll get to live freely with my wife, kids, and extended family forever. We get to enjoy the times that we've missed from the sacrifices we've had to make just so I could play this wonderful game. So either way it's a win-win. That's where I stand. Thank you for everyone who has been supportive throughout this process. A lot of other NFL

players hold my position as well, but aren't in the right place in their careers to be so outspoken. What a good thing to say right there. I feel for you and I'm hoping I'm out, I'm doing my part to represent you guys as well. Cole Beasley. What do you think about that? Cole Beasley, Jersey, ordered. Really? Ordered. What a beast, man. What a beast.

Got to respect it, but you have to. But you got to realize what he said is very important. He said to all the other players that are not in my position to say that, I hope I'm speaking on your behalf. And hopefully this helps you because he doesn't need the money anymore, right? That's the power. What is that worth? He's probably $30 million, okay? 30 to 50. He's somewhere around that. I'm going to put him at $30 to $50 million.

Yeah, he wasn't supposed to be though. He's a Rudy. He's an underdog. He was, how do you remember when he was supposed to come out of Cowboys' camp? It's $14 million. Network $14 million. That's not. Yeah, but that's that's that's just that's just off It's NFL you don't know Look man God bless him look. I don't anybody who got the vaccine guy bless you man go for it five eight five eight five eight Colby's Lee we we were up It we were at an undisclosed location. We had a shoot and one of the guys on the shoot I don't know how the topic got to drugs, but we were talking about, you know,

when we were younger, if we had ever done drugs, and this one dude who was our sound guy, really, really good sound guy, he goes, he goes, no, I've never done drugs. I would never do drugs. I don't even take baby aspirin. And he was like, you know, on set. And he was, you know, like kind of like bragging about it.

I was like, did you get the vaccine? He goes, yeah, I was like, all right. So no baby aspirin, but I'm going to takeested vaccine that is it's fine. Oh, you should have seen it. It was epic the guys like good points He didn't even fight Good point No, no, no, no, he tried he thought for like three seconds and he was like God you were sitting there. He kind of looked to his right, he's like, yeah, that's a good point.

He looked at it like, yeah, there's no response. Yeah, I can't say nothing to him. You got it good for you, but you know what? Like, I love what he said. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna take, I love what Cole Bees has said. I'm not gonna take meds for a leg that isn't broken. Thomas Massey got attacked this week

about not being vaccinated. And Thomas Massey's an actual genius, like an MIT-like men's genius. And you see what he said? He was like, listen, when you show, Pat was talking about the data before. He was like, when you show me data, that suggests that this vaccine helps my immune system

more than my natural antibodies after having it. I'll take the vaccine, but that data doesn't exist, so I'm not going to take it. And you know what, talking about this, it's probably gonna get this video demonetized and taken off YouTube, which is insane. The bigger thing to me is cold-beasley, like that was a cry for help.

That was somebody desperately trying to take his personal agency back. That's a guy that says, I don't care if this costs me my career. Can you imagine a personal choice, like what medicine to take or not take? Threatening your career? Threatening your livelihood, your family's livelihood?

What the biggest thing is, like, okay. So having a baby, okay, when you go through the face of having a baby, everyone's gonna give you opinions, okay? And I'm middle eastern, so everybody wants to give us advice on how to do anything. Like especially, it's gonna be the same with you as well when you guys are, so you should do this, you should do that. I should, should, should, wants to give us advice on how to do anything, like especially, you're, it's going to be the same with you as well when you guys are.

So you should do this, you should do that. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Everything you should do, right? Okay. Yeah. So I said, Jen, what do you want to do? She said, I want to have a natural. So you sure you want to have a natural?

Yeah, I'm like, okay, you positive. I 100% 100%. So it's okay. Let me think about it. So time comes, hey, I want to have a natural board. Dulo shows that we're having a meeting. He says, yeah, I still want to have a natural. So, okay, great.

Let's write the note. We have the note. We give it give it we say what should we face? So what what were you having a baby Northridge hospital great? They're gonna 67% of their the babies out of Borene they're at C section They're gonna push you to do to take the shots. What is the shot the shot is what the anise Is it anise? No, it's Well, no, uh, is it an anesthesia? No, it's not. It's uh, well, no, no, no, the epidural, yeah, the epidural and the pitosa and all this stuff, the pitosa and all these things you take, right?

Jennifer's, I don't want to take anything. She's like, they're going to sell you because it's like a business model. They're going to have to do a C section. Do you make more money and then have to give you epidural and they have to give you the pitosa? You know what Jen says? She says, I don't want any of it. So in the middle, they're like, okay, we have to do this. We have to do this and look at the do less.

Is this, there's no, no, they're just not serious. I I said ma'am. Can you guys go out please? We're good. No, we have to do is we have to do out please Boom comes we go to Jen doctor nurse comes in boom first baby second. Maybe they're all been natural so far now Jen Jen's jeez yes, yes, I should yes, I should by the way no pitosa no but there are by the way I would never do that if I was telling you right now I'm a part of that camp. That's her courage okay. I'm giving her the credit Okay, so so but she says I don't want any of it and by the way I've been there every one of them and dude She is and right now she's having contractions at any point. I could get a call

I got to go to the hospital with the due date is today just everybody today, just everybody knows the babies do today, like the doctors like today's the do. But watch what happens. Here's a point. Everybody has opinions. And it's a religious thing where people would say, I don't think is you have to do a C section because it's this, you know, there's no, we have to do C section in California. God forbid if you don't do C section, that was for uneducated people years ago. We're now educated the best way to do it is with C section and effort, don't all this stuff, right? Okay. The fact that a person's opinion and choice to want to do it the way they want to do it has become so politicized today,

do that. I don't want to take the vaccine. Well, nobody in your family said, no, my dad took the vaccine at 79 years old. My nanny, she took the vaccine. Tok, salute. I don't have a problem with that. My dad and I talked about it. I don't have a problem with that. I don't want to take the vaccine.

Why don't you want to take the vaccine? I don't want to take the vaccine right now. Why not? You want the real answer? Yeah. How much research we got? How much research do we have? Now, once we have plenty of research and there is data,

I'm a data guy, I will entertain it. It's not, it's becoming more and more clear. Like even the fact that you just said that is going to be remarkably controversial, right? The to say what, that I need data? No, that, that, that you just, you just took a statement against the, the establishment, you know, you, you, you did what you thought was, you know, wise decision, you, you're an analyst. I'm freaking kidding me. You got, you got, wise decision. You're an animal of the person. You're freaking kidding me. You got, but John Stewart goes on Stephen Colbert and says, how the hell do you mean this is not bad, Maize?

Don't blow me. Like, again, what do you mean this is a man- Stop, I'm saying this is six months. But the point is, somebody on the, Drake, here's the biggest part on what's starting to happen. When you are so woke, you get to the point where you're so woke that you piss to the point where you're so woke, that you piss off your own party, where people on your own side, they're like, what the

hell are you talking about? It's an obedience test, it's an obedience test, man. This has less and less to do with being healthy. It's not going to happen. It's not about how this is. Are you on board or are you not? It's an obedience test from an obedience cult. You're not going to pull it off. You're not going to pull it off. It's just not going to happen in this country. You're not going to be able to pull it off. What's going to happen when the data actually comes out and it may be what you're talking about? Like, let's just say the data shows that

or what you were saying earlier that you don't necessarily have to have it based on your own natural immunity. Are people going to just raise their hand and say, you know what, I was a little disrespectful to you for not wanting to do it before, but the data actually shows.

And I think that's where I sit right now. I just want people to live their life the best way they can. I'm not here to be right left, none of that. What I want you to do is do your, it's your choice. When people were saying, a lot of women, I remember going on Twitter saying, my body, my choice, well, does that apply now? And that's my question to a lot of people, is it because it is your body. And no one knows what, what your DNA says.

They don't know that you could, you know, have other ailments that make you have to wait. you could have other ailments that make you have to wait. And why should someone point their fingers at you, yell at you or call you names? And why does it have to be political? Why can't you just do it because you wanna do it? Like you said, like your father wanted to do it. Okay, so do, good for you. My parents did it, mind it too.

And I think it's important that you just let people live and you're going to live with the consequences either way. You know what's interesting for them going back to what you're saying though right now is that I was having a conversation with a cousin of mine that she's real liberal and I said she's all pro-vaccine. I said listen, here's the thing, the vaccine will prevent, if it, let's say in a theory, it works the way you think it works. It protects me, not you.

So why do you care so much if I take it? Does it make, like, it doesn't stop me from carrying it to somebody else. So I could understand how you would say, take it because it prevents you from spreading it, but it doesn't. So why do you care if I, why are you so tried to impose me to take something

I don't wanna take? That's what I agree. And their marketing of this is what makes it more sus to me than anything else. Do it, do it, do it, because you love the people, the other people. But I can't stop from spreading it. They made that very clear.

So why do you care if I take, it's like we're sitting in a car with strangers and you decide to put on your seatbelt and I don't. Why would you care? But they have to be a problem. The fact that they have to incentivize it, the way that they're incentivizing it, like, you know, Ohio, take the vaccine

and you're entered into a lottery to win a million dollars and I'm like, do you have to do that? Like with Viagra, did you have to do that? No, it works. Like people, you don't need to incentivize them. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm really shocked at how

California did that, right? You're talking about incentivizing these people that literally those same people, didn't they just lose their jobs? Yep, the they just lose their houses and stuff like that. Can we just give them their money first? Like why do they have to do something now to go get that? That's an interesting point. I cost you a job. I cost your house. I cost you all that stuff. But you know what, if you take the vaccine, I'm going to give you this much money.

Yeah. But I just lost my life. But it's still a raffle kind of. And I just think that, you know, when I saw that, I felt really bad for people, because I'm thinking, well, what is going on in their head right now thinking, like, well, how dare you say these things? After I just lost every, and I don't know how I'm going to, you know, I go on to wear a lot

and I just, I just read. And I'm seeing people say this and they're like, I just lost everything and now you're dangling this, you're moving the goalpost, you're doing these things. And I feel like I'm just very disrespected. And now I'm hurt. And even in Colorado, Shireen, we've lived in different areas of Denver for the past five years. We've moved around a lot. And the area that we're in now is more suburbs, right? Good homes, you know, you got right, you got left,

you got, I mean, literally you got like, you know, Trump guy right here, you got Biden right here, like flags this and that, and everybody gets along. It's great. Problem is right now, the homelessness is crazy. It is crazy. We had to move from downtown Denver because of how crazy the homeless is.

You've noticed it. You've seen it. Within a year and a half. Wow. I mean, it's terrible. Like I will not let her walk around with her girlfriends. Like if they said, oh, we're just gonna have girls not grab, you know, wine and go grab steak or something like that. I'm like, absolutely not. It's not happening because of just how dirty it is now. And it's starting to

reach the neighborhoods right off the highways. People holding up signs. I mean, people being at your local target, you know, like just holding up a sign and you're just like, how did this happening? You're thinking, this person isn't on drugs. This person lost everything. And I'll be damned if I'm in Colorado and I see that same. Oh, take this. It's like, give them something better than that. I'm tired of the slaps in the face, you know, by these, you know, people in power and just saying like, we'll do this and we'll get, no, man, like let's use that money, create some better programs. Just give them something better than that. I would just, because I think what I've seen is a lack of hope from those same people in the middle class. How do they recover? And now we're looking at home prices, inflation, all these things happening. They're not even seeing it yet.

They're not even noticing that inflation is crazy. They don't even know that, like I follow Daniel D. Martino booth, and I'm looking at this, and I'm like, we're screwed. Oh, it's about to be explosive. It's about to get very ugly. And by the way, here's the biggest thing is when a person who is saying their entire lives, I work for you. My policy is to make your life better, but your policies temporarily hurt him

or her, but two, three years down the line, destroyed that person's livelihood. There's only a matter of time before those guys say, I don't know if your policies are really that good for me. You're just hoping the folks on that end are not not even up to just say, I think they're gonna do it next time. I think they're gonna do it next time. I think eventually people are gonna be like, I'm not gonna do this anymore.

You've not done anything for my life. California, California, Colorado, Jersey, in Florida. All right, like there's a reason why we're all here. Don't forget Norway, by the way. California, California, Colorado, Jersey, in Florida. All right, like there's a reason why we're all here. Don't forget Norway, about Norway. By way of California. By way of California and a baby seal. He wrote it all the way here. But this is the thing, and again, to bring up Adam, right?

Like Adam was like, with a lockdowns, really that bad. He's been in Florida the whole time. Like like you don't know. Like it sounds so cliche to say this but you don't know what we went through. Like I was legit political hostage. Like I literally have not an essential. People think that's like not real. That's a real tattoo. Not essential tattooed because they shut me down. They shut, dude, I was on your nightmare. I was on two national tours. All right, $1,000 is a show.

Not that anybody needs to know my finances. 70 shows, exed out, gone, 70 shows. Then I go back home to Jersey, the highest taxes in the damn country, and they tell me because I work nationally, I'm ineligible for unemployment. So I've been paying taxes in the Jersey country. And they tell me because I work nationally, I'm ineligible for unemployment. So I've been paying taxes in the Jersey, I can't get unemployment, they won't let me work.

I'm seeing strip clubs and liquor stores open. Strippers are essential, but I'm not. I'm watching WWE on TV and I'm like, these damn bodybuilding stuntmen, no offense don't get me wrong. Well, I'm like, these dudes are essential. And I'm not, like I'm watching these dudes drop and rock bottoms on each other.

And I'm like, these guys are essential. And I'm not. And anybody that's essential during the pandemic is comedians. Yeah. If there's anybody that's essential to me. So I'm saying at 70, 70 grand, 18 months of my life, they locked us in.

They locked us indoors. Like it was literally illegal after 10 o'clock for us to go outside Like you had to show your papers like what are you doing out here? Dude because the coronavirus is a motorcycle gang and it comes out at night. That's why Why did we have to wear our mask into into bro? Don't even start on the flight back on a flight back This just happened on a flight back from San Francisco this woman She had it out for me man. She was like checking me if my mask was here instead of here

She was like sir. I've asked you to put your mask out I was like lady when you were passing out the crackers five minutes ago the entire plane took our mask off at the same time We were sitting next to each other unmasked naked face next to each other for five whole minutes. I think if anybody had anything, it's been transmitted. Can I please? Can I please? Yes. They kick you off the planet. She got mad at me. That she came back again when it was here. I was like, say it from six feet away. If we're gonna, if we're gonna follow, you didn't say that, dude. I swear to God. I was like, get six feet away if we're gonna if we're gonna follow you say that's it. I swear to God. I was like get six feet away. If we're following rules, we're following all rules. If we're following rules, we're

following them all. Say it from six feet away. She's back off. She was like I was like yeah. You should have got like this. Yeah. Yeah. You don't die. And everybody do sky waitresses anyway. But I want to know, but I want to know what data shows that the amount of people who get hypoxia by wearing it. Because what's hypoxia? You never been a dimmer? No, like high altitude and all that stuff.

So like, for instance, like I break and rid you go there, it takes you two days to adjust to it. Like, remember when Andrés Calaraga was hitting home runs and color I've been fat for a long time. So imagine okay so quick story I go to Shree's like hey I need you go to Home Depot. I said okay fine I go to Home Depot I got to wear the mask. So I'm pushing the card and putting stuff in and then next day I know I meet a few fans. And I'm just trying to be nice and talk to them.

Next thing you know, I just start perspiring, I'm sweating like bullets. And I'm thinking the last time I felt like this was when I first moved to Colorado and I went up to Pike Speak. And I'm like, why is this happening? And now this person in this lady is like, I saw you in this film and like, why is this happening? And now, this person in this lady is like, I saw you in this film and like,

oh my gosh, my grandson, can I take a picture? And I'm like, ma'am, I'm about to pass out. So I literally just took it off. And I went out, I literally left the cart, ran outside, took a deep breath and I was like, oh my gosh, I was near having an anxiety attack. And I don't have that. And I was like, well my gosh, I was near having an anxiety attack. And I don't have that. And I was like, well, let's rewind what happened. Doing enough. And it was one of

those that didn't have a lot of, it wasn't like, it was very thick. And it just me, and I'm claustrophobic as hell already. So it just really made me worse. So now I've had to figure out like which one will allow me to be able to breathe. So now I've had to figure out which one will allow me to be able to breathe. So if I am on the plane luckily when I was on the plane yesterday, I didn't have that same experience. And it is, I've seen certain flight attendants like be cool with it and then not.

But most important, I think is very interesting when you're doing like this. And then you take the sip and you do that, and I'm thinking, how does that work? I just don't understand, and I'm not, you know, I'll make fun of one situation, and that is the person that wears it by themselves in the car.

I just don't get it. Oh, even worse for me is when Tyrone Lew was doing the interview behind his desk, and he had a mask on him, a mask on like oh, you're by yourself. What are you doing? Yeah, from now on like what are you doing? You're on the zoom take the note You can't get the virus over zoom. I've come to like the mask though because most people that are still wearing masks at this point Are are commie honkeys anyway, and they're better when they're muzzled. So 100 The commie honkeys are the ones you better when they're muzzled. So 100, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

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the, the, the, the, the, the, non-Makami. Yeah, I was a Communist. I was a Communist. So last time I came to Florida, I was sitting next to a kid, and the kid was eating his M&Ms. And the flight attendant told him, hey, after you put one in your mouth, you have to cover yourself. And I told the flight, and the kid was, so we're in the first class, so we're sitting in the front. The mom was sitting next to her daughter on the next row, and I'm sitting next to him.

And I think that he assumed he was with me, even though it was a little white boy kind of weird, like I'm not white, you know, and I said he's not doing that show. I said, I said, I said, no, no, no, I'm just saying I'm not white, like obviously, right? And I said, he's not, he's not gonna do that shit. I said, he's not gonna do that. I said, we're normal human beings here, okay? He's gonna eat when he versus he's done, then he's gonna put on his mask. So what you're doing is ridiculous. Don't go overboard either.

And the guy just looked at me like, oh, I said, I gotta dig to the point. What I'm getting at is that there's gonna be a sense of people defending each other too. Does it make, like you got to step up for other people, he's like, the kid couldn't be older than six years old. And then the, I think,

the guy just looked at me, he went to the, he just went to go do something else. And mom looked at me, she just thanked you because it's annoying. He's a little kid. They're making you're making him fear things that are not real, you know? So different, don't you think if there was someone that was sitting next to him that

felt offended? Yeah, of course not. If there's someone else, then I could be like, okay, no problem. I don't know you Pat, but we're sitting next to each other. But there's the other thing that I've noticed is that what about people that happen to get it? Don't they understand the whole and this is going to, man, we're going to go there. The shedding. So meaning like you get anytime you get a shot and stuff like that, like you're going to shed, right? I shed the virus. So what if you're sitting next to someone who you don't know

and you're shedding the virus and they don't know it? And they get sick or they have a complex. Interesting. Yeah, it's interesting. So these are things that like I do believe like, you know, when people say, hey, you should get this shot or whatever before you travel, you wait 14 days, you know,

there's, you can go get the shot at the airport and some of the airports. So what does that mean? Like, okay, well, that's fine. I get it. But then I shed it to some other person who may be inactive virus in that moment, who may be immunocompromised. And now I put them at danger.

And I don't even know it. And we don't think, like, so it's very tough to figure out like a real protocol on how to figure this out. And I feel really bad for anyone that has immune disorders. My fiancee has four. And so I understand, she's got the PCOS, she's got Hashimoto's, she's got a lot of different things going on. So she can't really be around certain people at certain times.

But she always tries to focus on what Beasley was saying is like, you know, how is she can she protect herself naturally as much as possible and in all Essence I do believe that we all should be figuring out Regardless if you take it or not. How can you boost your immunity naturally? Yeah, we should always like I wish There I'm raising my hand right now in America, like if I can help seriously talk about health and fitness this and that and the other, get in outside, being healthy that way, eating better.

Cause I still go to the grocery store and I'm sure we all agree, frozen food section out, it's still wiped out. I mean, like the bad stuff. Yeah, we gotta do better. For you guys. We gotta do better. I We gotta do bad news. I know cause I take them.

So you go to my city, they're wiped out, and that was me. That's what I'm saying. But I mean, like, you know, and I'm not saying everybody's gotta eat like it's some, you know, competitive bodybuilder. What I am saying is that let's try to rethink some of these options.

Phil, I think you need a podcast. That's what I think. I think you need a podcast. It would be interesting if you had, do you have a podcast currently right now or not? I think it'd be interesting. If you had your own podcast and you brought athletes because you're connected, you're connected both through Hollywood, you have friends in Hollywood, you have friends in all sports. I mean, Jamal Crawford's one of your buddies. You guys went to, you guys played

together, you got guys in the NBA, you got guys in football, Chad Johnson wants to be you in bodybuilding, you know, it would be interesting if you ran your own podcast with that would look like. So you got strong opinions. And at the same time, you're coming from a different lens. Yeah. A guy that's got a degree. You would look at a field hit and you're like, oh, he's probably just a, you know, what meet head, right?

Yeah. Guys got a degree in engineering. I confuse it with accounting. I guess it would run. He's accounting your engineering, right? Accounting seven time of time astral impia. Yeah. And at the same time, he's got strong opinions for himself and he's independent. I would watch it. Yeah, it'd be interesting if you had your own podcasts. But Gank, if you're watching this right, yeah, and thank you so much for joining the podcast.

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