PBD Podcast - Rob Smith Reacts To Democratic Activist Calling Florida a Terrorist State | Ep. 273 | Part 1

Episode Date: May 25, 2023

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30 seconds. Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so close, I could take sweetly thick dough. I know this life meant for me. Yeah, why would you plan on galiah, but we got bett David. Value payment, giving values, contagiousness, world of entrepreneurs, we can't no value that hate.

It's how he run, homie, look what I've become. I'm the entrepreneur. All right, so we got a home team podcast today with a friend in the house Rob Smith We got a lot to talk about if you don't know who Rob Smith is you will in a minute He's a decorated Iraq war veteran. He served five years in the army including two tours in the Middle East during operation Iraq freedom He was awarded the army Commodation Medal and Combat Infantry Batch. He has spoken about politics and current events

at Yale University, Google, Deutsche Bank, Vanderbilt University, and dozens of other colleges, universities and companies across America. There's a, I wanna say a special you did that got 10 plus million views, was it with Vice? Yeah, it was the Vice, like conservatives, black conservatives debate black liberals. Phenomenal, I mean, if you've never seen Yeah, it was the vice, like conservatives, black conservatives, debate, black liberals. Phenomenal.

I mean, if you've never seen it, you got to watch it. And then you're based out of Florida now. Yes. You're with Turning Point USA contributor. You promote their values of fiscal responsibility, free market, limited government daily, and you hold a master's degree from Columbia University. Columbia University, yes. I was with Turning Point.

Okay. I was with Turning Point. Did a lot of work with Turning Point. Great organization. Yeah. Now, sort of kind of doing my own thing. From Columbia University. Yes, I was with Turning Point. Okay, I was with Turning Point. Did a lot of work with Turning Point. Great organization. Yeah. And now, sort of kind of doing my own thing. I love it. But yes, so the, that vice video was crazy. It went crazy.

Black conservatives versus black liberals. Still, like I've done a lot of stuff, but that's still the thing that people come up to me, airports, Amtrak, whatever, like, oh, and that thing still flies crazy to this day. Somebody goes and watches that, like, it still this day. Somebody goes and watches that like it still goes hard. I love it. I think honestly I think everybody who hasn't seen it

should see it because the exchange, how you handled it, how you know they got triggered and uncomfortable. Oh my God, he's kind of doing the same thing to him. It's a very interesting exchange to watch, but it's good to have you on a We got a lot of topics to cover today. A ton of topics. Obviously, this guy named, what's his name? Ron, I want to say, right?

Ron DeSantis is announcing that he's running for office today. He's got a big announcement. We don't know what it is, but of course, we all know what it is. And he's making the announcement with Elon Musk on Twitter spaces. And everybody else from mainstream media is probably disappointed that that announcement wasn't being made on mainstream media. Lots changing in the marketplace,

so we'll talk about that. We know economy wise, Tom, you got a few things to talk about where Jamie Diamond warning some additional banks that may go out of business due to the commercial real estate loans. Inflation, pummeled US household finances last year. Indeed. We got a few things to talk about with Apple,

announces multi-billion dollar deal with Broadcom for US made ships, Chinatai One tension, daily wire, just announced that they're planning on taking their podcast potentially on Twitter, following Tucker's lead. So they may also take their podcast to Twitter. Reports of Instagram making Twitter competitor prompts comment from Linda, who's now the CEO of Twitter, looming existential crisis for cable news. Wait till you see the data that we have here,

Tucker Carlson sends a legal threat to pack, urging him to run for president. That's a news newsweek story and we got a few other things that's going on back here with target is uh... flip flopping with the decision that they made and then msnbc guest claims florida's about to be a terrorist state for black and lgbtq community and then uh... burkeley holds a segregated graduation ceremony

for black students only. And last but not least, this is a story that we wanna touch. Tom doesn't wanna touch it, but we're probably gonna touch it. It's how butt-light blew it. And before we get into the stories, guys, we're about to announce our next live podcast. For those of you that have attended it, you know how insane it gets,

whether it's now that we're doing it at night, the cigar lounge afterwards, the exchanges, the conversations, the networking. If you want to be one the first to know, because the moment we announced it, the VIP tech itself within the first seven, eight minutes. The last two times, they saw within the first seven, eight minutes. So if you want to know and be the first text award podcast to 310-340-113-2, once again, text-to-word podcast to 310-340-1132. Having said that, let's get right into the story with DeSantis and Musk.

I think we start with that right after that. So DeSantis set to announce 2024 run for Twitter with Elon Musk. This is a New York Times story that I'm reading. Governor Ron DeSantis set to announce presidential campaign on Twitter in a live audio conversation with Musk's sources reveal story that I'm reading. Governor Ron DeSantis set to announce presidential campaign on Twitter in a live audio conversation with Musk sources reveal that DeSantis aims to reach a wide online audience stating it's the right thing for society and it's the great thing for our brand. That's what Musk said. DeSantis

faces the challenge of capturing attention, amid competition from former President Donald Trump who's expected to return to Twitter By the way, Vitsin, he's expected to return to Twitter. That's pretty well. They pro Trump super PAC Criticizes the centrist as campaign launch as out of touch and mocks his after party at the upskill four seasons resort and Miami Moscow will moderate the Twitter event has expressed support for the centrist in the past although not formally endorsed and in Musk has shifted his support toward the right and has engaged the right when conspiracy theories on social media. Again, remember, this is a New York time story,

Rob, thoughts on the story. All right, so first of all, what people have to understand about Ronda Sanchez is that he loads the mainstream media. He really does not like these people, okay? These people attack him, they try to obviously they try to do all these different things. He does not like these people. Okay, these people attack him, they try to obviously, they try to do all these different things. He does not like these people.

So this is a brilliant move to take his announcement to Twitter to Elon Musk because he knows that that is going to be the most powerful platform. These platforms that we have online, whether it's YouTube, Facebook, or Twitter, but Twitter is the most powerful free speech platform in the world right now. So that is where he's going to take his message.

He knows that as he runs for president over the next year, two year and a half, the mainstream media, which basically focuses as like an arm of the Democrat party at this point, is going to attack him at every turn. It's a brilliant move. I think that'll be very interesting. And you know, as far as, you know, DeSantis' capabilities as president or as possibilities, I have a lot of thoughts that I'll get into if you want me to. So I'd dinner with DeSantis at the governor's mansion

a couple of months ago. And I think I told you about this last time that he came here, right? So he was literally sitting right here. It was three and a half hour dinner, and it was endless. There was a long dinner. But I really got the sense here, it was three and a half hour dinner, and it was endless, and it was a long dinner. But I really got the sense of who it was endless. But I got the sense of who DeSantis really is, right?

Outside of how the team presents him on Twitter and all this other stuff. And so this is the thing, this person is whip smart. This is a very, very, very smart man. This is a very smart individual policy wise, okay? I think the issue that he is going to have is in these interactions with regular people, the sort of small talk, the things that you have to do

is somebody that's an entrepreneur, somebody that is a politician, or somebody that is a public figure. These are not things that come natural to him, okay? And it becomes very obvious when you spend more than five minutes with him. So I think that the fear is, if he gets into this situation where, if you ever went to the Iowa State Fair, and you know this is basically humiliation ritual that we put our

candidates for office, our candidates for president through as a society. And you've got to run to Santa's out in the Iowa State Fair, like, you know, eating hot dog going to stick or something like that and having to engage with people, the opportunity there and the threat there is to have a very negative viral moment where he's kind of just being a little awkward. The left takes that, blows it up. Got it. Tom, what are your thoughts on this?

Well, I agree with that. And I also think that there's a macro element and you're in the system. So you see some of this. Yes. The ad sales vice president said MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News are pissing on themselves today because social media and alternative platforms are taking the biggest show of the year

to the American people. That's the scary part, right? When you think of being a guy that's from that space, to see that, they're probably losing their minds. That's the scary part, right? When you think of being a guy that's from that space, you know, to see, I bet they're probably losing their minds. That's not how we lose this. Yeah. And I think that this is part of the strategy.

You have to understand that the Santa strategy and his entire team is that they want to make the mainstream media irrelevant, okay? They do because they know that these people are going to be anti-dominant. I don't know what. Because Fox still. You know, Fox to me is more de-santis than they are Trump right now. You know, I do not know. I think that he's still going to use Fox. Fox is still, youive than they are Trump right now. You know, I do not know. I think that he's still going to use Fox.

Fox is still a very large cable news sort of interview, right? He went there to promote his book. He still uses that and he knows that he will get a friendlier interview with Fox than he will get from a CNN or an MSNBC. But I think the long term strategy is in his eyes to delegitimize mainstream media in the eyes of the people that are his actual base. I asked him at that dinner. He actually got a little pissed at even the suggestion of this question. I was like, oh, when you go on book tour, you're going to go to the view. Why would I go to the view? They're not going to give me a fair shape. Oh, oh, by any kind of like win-win-on-on. I was like, okay.

So, you know, not going to give me a fair safe blow, but he kind of like went on and on. I was like, okay, so you know, not going to the view. You know, it's so funny. I just wrote down here. Do you think he's going to end up doing the CNN town hall, DMS NBC, going on the view, going on opposition, going on all those guys? I think the strategy, I think if Musk is in his ear, Musk knows they're going to get a more eyeballs on Twitter spaces and people will be able to answer questions, ask questions from him while they're going back and forth. I think that part're going to get a more eyeballs on Twitter spaces and people will be able to answer questions Ask questions from him while they're going back and forth I think that part's going to be the new direction because when you are making an analysis like you know even a CNN town hall The CNN town hall who's asking questions the people that are in there right but it's still

Formatted in a weird, you know mechanical way, right? But if you do Twitter spaces It's set up in a way where it's like, hey, so tell us what you think about this. Hey, Ron, I had a question for you. That one time, what happened with Disney and Bob Iker? Would you have done that again? Hey, the decision you made to go to six weeks abortion, do you think that kind of hurt you?

You could have kind of set that aside and not really gone. There, why did you go there in the first place? Would you say that was one of your mistakes? Twitter spaces, you can't really moderate what people can ask. Most people on town hall they stand up and they do the following. Think about it, they go like this. Hi, Governor, Ron DeSantis, I just want to tell you, I love the work you do.

I'm a resident of Tallahassee, you're amazing. Okay, so if you were to do, nobody does this on Twitter. It's scripted, it's completely scripted. This is the mechanic part to go away from it. But you got some thoughts you wanna say on this? Yeah, of course. Okay, go for it. I got a few other thoughts.

By the way, at this dinner was his wife there? Oh yeah, yeah, I did get to talk about Casey. Okay, so everything that Bronda Santis lacks in terms of, you know, maybe a little personal charisma in terms of being able to interact with people, Casey has at times 20. Agreed. Aacy DeSist is absolutely fabulous.

She has all of that stuff. So she is going to be such a huge part of this campaign and I think that she will be a very big part of this moving forward. She's gorgeous, she's intelligent. This was a television newswoman before, before she became his wife and became the First Lady of Florida, right? So everything that he's lacking in that department she has, I think she's gonna be a huge star.

I think that conservatives are going to fall in love with this woman if they have not already. I think not speak highly enough. I think mothers are gonna fall in love with her. I think just independent second father. I think Democrats are gonna fall in love with her. We also have the opportunity to meet with the Santos recently without disclosing much details.

And Ron and Casey sat at the head of a room, and there was a handful of us in this room. And I fully agree with you. Ron DeSantis is 100% a policy wank. Even when he walked in the room, it wasn't like, hey, everybody, thanks for being here. You know, hey, how you doing, buddy? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, none of that. It was like, hi, so my agenda worked out in the basically in the fiscal year, and we're like, oh, okay, we're getting right into this. Yeah, yeah. And he just went, brrr, teachers unions and this and that no humanity, like marketing, perspective whatsoever, but she spoke,

and it was very impressive. Pat, would you agree? Yeah, I mean, there's no question about it that she is a formidable first lady. Yeah. And by the way, if you go back to the last eight first ladies, I actually go back to the for let's go all the way back to Reagan. Okay. To Nancy.

Nancy was super protective. If you read books about Nancy, she was a ballbuster behind closed doors, and she would not let you take advantage of her husband. Very cool. Yeah, very cool. So sometimes she hurt, you know, the direction she would, you know, he would go, but eventually she,

she was somebody you had to win over. She wasn't John F. Kennedy's wife, Jackie. Jackie was just beautiful, and she wasn't like, you know, she was just put together nice clothes, marketing, all that stuff. But Nancy was actually like a fighter and people feared her. You go to any of the other ones, you know, we've had great ones, you know, there's a, but Michelle, but to me, Michelle is a, Michelle is a superstar of a first lady for the Democratic Party. She's not good for the Republican side. You know, she would dig at Obama all the time and you know, she's this, she's that,

that is a very good play for the Dems, maybe not on the Republican side. KZ is a first lady for a, you know, the Republican audience independent, also winning part of the left as well. And if you look at Trump's wife, Trump's wife is a model who has an audience, but Trump's wife's not gonna get in there

and do the work, not do the work, but she's not gonna get in there and say, Hey, I'm gonna campaign over here, you go over here, I'm gonna go give this speech. That was his daughter. Trump's wife, the role of a first lady in a strange way was played by Ivanka, which she was a powerhouse.

When she spoke, people lost their minds when she was, because she had that part with her. But there's a few things that we have to be thinking about right now with this announcement. So, one, is it too late? Let's address some of the FAQs. Is it too late? It's already too late. He's panicking. He's kind of announcing right now

I thought he was gonna make the announcement after all the the stuff. Why is he doing it sooner? Okay? Maybe he's doing that after the Disney stuff that happened Maybe he's doing it after some other you know the not the best start to a campaign What people have to realize is Trump announces is in 2015 he announced running on June 2014 I believe or some can you check Trump's birthday whatever Trump's birthday was that's when he announced and He was in a political figure so for him to say I'm gonna run June 14 June 14 Yeah, he announced 2015 June 14. So essentially that's what that's three weeks from today So if he announces today, he's still fine too

Trump is still ahead 37% as of today. So it's not like it's a small lead that they have. Three, most of Trump's ads have been towards the Santas. A lot of the ads they've been spending. And I think I saw in Fox the article that Trump spent more money ads against the Santas than they did for midterms. More money was spent on ads against the Santas than mid did for midterms. More money was spent on ads against the Santas

than midterms. What does that mean? That means the mega, even Trump's campaign sees him as a formidable threat, right there. Trump's pack spend 15.3 million dollars on the Santas ad, more than midterms total. So we have to know that as well. Now Tim Scott comes out with 20 million dollars.

He announces it this week right twenty million buck which is fine You got twenty million bucks and I think Tim's gonna get the job on whoever the next administration is and He may be a great VP candidate. I think he is a role player the same t is They said eighty six million what four weeks ago. He's gonna get a hundred million I wouldn't be surprised if Elon gives them fifty hundred two hundred million dollars This is because here's what I think is happening. This is what I think is happening with this whole Elon thing.

I think this is more about Elon than is about the centis. And that's kind of sounds weird, but I think it's about more Elon than the centis. I think Elon is realizing this political game, it's kind of cool. And you can be Iron Man, which is cool, and you play the role of Iron Man, what happens when you're Iron Man?

Well, you hook up with all the top Hollywood celebrity, you know, women, and you can kind of go and say, yeah, I used to date her, yeah, I used to be, yeah, I'm a herty, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're kind of over that. Now what? Okay, next thing is, wow, I don't know, I get respect, but legacy, this is a pretty interesting fight.

I don't like what they're doing, kind of like what Sebastian was saying yesterday. But now it's kind of like, you know what job is open? What job is open? Who the hell is the next? Murderer. Who the hell is the next media? Who didn't?

I would have my competing for that kind of power. And what if I have the business? What if I have the billions? I can never run for office like that Turner. I can never run for office like a, you know, Trump. What if I have the business, what if I have the billions, I can never run for office like that Turner, I can never run for office like Trump. What if I do this? So, musk is a case study to show can a musk with the help of Rogan and others convert

and catch up on a 37 point lead that the opponent has. If they catch up, a 37 point lead that the opponent has. If they catch up, you know what this says in a marketplace? In a marketplace, the most powerful man in politics is officially Elon Musk. If he pulls this off, if he doesn't pull it off and Trump still wins. And by the way, even if they get close

and the difference is like 3, 4, 5%, Elon Musk will be the most. You know how Susanne Scott as a number one person? Next year's the media it's list needs to scrap everybody else and put Elon Musk as number one. Do you think this is going to be considered an endorsement for Round Descent? Like this is a big deal. You talked about that he's basically making the legacy media irrelevant.

I think he's still gonna need to make appearances on mainstream media, CNN, Fox. I don't think he's necessarily gonna make them irrelevant. He doesn't wanna be fully reliant on that for sure. But this move with Elon, this is massive. So first talker, now you got DeSantis this upcoming announcement. The question is, Trump's been so aligned with true social.

He hasn't made any concessions to doing anything with Twitter. Is this gonna be the straw that broke the camel's back to make Trump say, all right, screw it. If DeSantis is getting all this attention with Elon fricking Musk on Twitter, I gotta go ahead and head to Twitter. I wanna know if that's something that you think Trump's gonna do. I believe so, absolutely. I believe Trump will be back on Twitter, I gotta go ahead and head to Twitter. I wanna know if that's something that you think Trump's gonna do.

I believe so, absolutely. I believe Trump will be back on Twitter. And honestly, the truth-soultral thing hasn't really taken off the wave that they wanted to. I remember. Yeah, you think. So remember when they announced the digital world acquisition corporate, the D-Walk thing, right?

And so basically what that was, and I'm gonna get in trouble with my world, but that's fine, like I'm out of Trump world, I did that, I don't care anymore. Look, a lot of them who knew what was happening made a lot of money off of the de-walk thing, right? And then it went right there. So all them made their money, and then they disappeared, right?

And so truth, socials are gonna be a big part of that. I remember all the rumors about, you know, when Trump, you know, left the White House that they were gonna announce Trump TV TV and they were gonna do this whole media conglomerate thing, right? So yes, Trump will absolutely be back on Twitter. Here's the thing that people don't understand about Trump because number one, nobody in the circle wants to say anything negative, okay?

And one of their fundamental weaknesses right now is that they live in a bubble where nobody can speak the truth. Trump's fatal flaw is that he just loves attention too much. He loves attention so much that he will not just stay on true social. The true social pose can make a little bit of a new cycle and make a couple blogs, whatever, but him being on Twitter is seismic. And that is a man and that is a movement at this point

that just thrives on attention. And I would not be surprised if he came back to Twitter literally within the space of the next few weeks, just to sort of tamp down on some of this momentum in this conversation that we're having about Elon and about DeSantis announcing on Twitter. So, yeah, he'll be back there. Absolutely. 100%. You know, I think there's an angle here and maybe because I'm a little geeky that I see I had the privilege of being at some confabs where I saw some tech CEOs at certain points in their career and then I see them later how they engaged the media and talked to the media. I saw Zuckerberg on

stage 2008 2009 that guy was not ready for prime time. Now he can carry his own on a congressional hearing and with the media. And if you wanna take a look at 15 years ago, the way Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and the rest of the, and Reed Hoffman and the rest of the PayPal, Mafia, you look them doing a team interview on TV and disrupting financial services PayPal.

They were geeks, they were college guys. They were, they were merely able to carry the conversation. Now look at Elon Musk, how he can play the media and how he can present it. If this week is about Elon Musk having a big week for Twitter the platform, having a big week for Elon Musk, the power broker, and then having a big week in general for attention.

If that's all it is, then that's all it is. But if there is a true friendship and a relationship forming between DeSantis and Musk and Musk can say, Ron, I've been there. This is how you have to get there. I think that's a very powerful combination if there's a real relationship there because DeSantis can learn from Elon who was very geeky and awkward and now can carry his own with the media. I don't know.

You don't hold something good to be in his year? A Joe Rogan. I think a Joe being in a... 100%. So for example, like let me, if I'm DeSantis's campaign manager, let's just say, let's go through this step process. Number one, is he making the launch in the best possible way? I don't think there's a better way to make the announcement.

I really don't think there's a better platform for him to go to to make the announcement than Twitter spaces. I'm 100% that's number one. Nothing's above it. Okay, let's look at some of the next 1015 moves. Let's let's process the next 1015 moves. Okay. Number one, in the 1015 moves, you got gotta get on the Rogan podcast. Okay, you gotta get on a Megan Kelly podcast. You gotta get on a PPD podcast. You gotta go to those three. Why Rogan's gonna humanize you, because Rogan's gonna bring out the human side of you,

you're gonna talk, and it's gonna be a great conversation. Megan Kelly is gonna get the women who are not happy about the decision you made for the six weeks, because that was a big hit, and she's gonna come at you, you're gonna go there. And they can make up a little bit on that too. You can see as humanness, he can come over here and talk about how the business audience can trust him, how the entrepreneurs, capitalism, as well as some

of the stuff that we've addressed over the last, you know, 12 months. And then, from there to me, he's got to do ACN in town hall. He's got to do an MSNBC town hall. He's got to go on a view. He's got to go to the places he doesn't want to go why, because the other guy is going to go to all those places.

For example, do you think Trump's going to do Twitter spaces in the next three, six, 12 months? 100%. What do you think the Twitter space is Twitter spaces in the next three, six, 12 months? 100%. What do you think the Twitter space is gonna be would Trump and Musk? You think that's gonna be the biggest Twitter spaces in the history of Twitter, it's gonna shut it down.

By the way, couple things to be thinking about. Couple things to be thinking about. I want you to go on YouTube right now. Always look at the stuff like this. Go on YouTube and search the following words. Okay. Search the words, the Santis and Musk,

type in the Santis Musk, take the end out. Yeah, so then go to filters to the top left. Go to today, go to today, yeah, that's today, and go to view count, go back to filters, go to view count, okay. And now let's look at how many people care about the announcement yesterday. The numbers are not that big by the way. So if you look at 161 WPBF, you got NBC 212, Bloomberg

5200, Gollum Lord, make that yeah exactly. CNN, only 50,000. Okay. NBC, only 30,000, Forbes only 83,000, DeSantis on MSNBC, 69,000, 100 and 2000 on ABC, 2800, that's 17 hours ago, 2900, keep going lower and lower, 183 now, somebody may say, well, Pat, you got to go look at Fox, because I bet when they said this guy was going to announce the Fox one probably has a million and a half. Okay, go to Fox's channel. Okay, go to Fox News' channel. If you go to Fox News' channel and go to videos, okay, and then let's go lower and go to the part where they announced the Santas and Musk. Keep going lower, keep going lower, keep going lower, keep going lower.

Okay, right there. The Santas to announce, can you zoom in? 40,000 views? What are we, maybe that's not the main one. Go back and zoom out to see if there's any other ones. Maybe other. Okay, how much is that one? 25,000 views. Keep going lower, keep going lower, keep going lower.

Maybe there's another one. Keep going lower, keep going lower, keep going lower. Not that we're already out of day. Okay, so meaning, this is the point. It only, that few people are caring about the announcement. This says a couple different things to me, okay. One, the bit of an irrelevance so far where people really don't care because in their mind, made up their

minds, the guy is going to be Trump for the Republican side. Again, I may be wrong. Two, if this is where you are, you now have to play the comeback game. So the comeback game to me, this doesn't mean it's over at all. The comeback came to me is you have to out town hall Trump, you have to out be sitting there with people shaking hands doing combos, you have to go on a kind of a campaign a few people have ever done to show your face everywhere for people to say,

this guy is strong, this guy is likable, he's willing to sit down with the opposition, we all know he's brilliant, we all know he's smart. Damn, I love his wife and how they work together. I totally relate to what she's saying, she's gonna protect me as a mom, we're good to go. But meaning, the announcement wasn't as big of a pop. I want you to think about the,

say the biggest announcement you ever gonna make in your life. And you're gonna make it with the richest man in the world. Shouldn't it get millions? It did not. So that's a little bit of a concern. There's nobody in the world you could have make the announcement with. That's a big renemdening Elon Musk. So tonight's Twitter, Twitter spaces on how it's gonna be held. I wonder how many people are gonna log on. I wonder how many people are gonna, how many views it's gonna

get. And I wonder how many people are gonna get on there because Musk is doing it and I wonder how many people are gonna get on. I wonder how many people are gonna, how many views it's gonna get. And I wonder how many people are gonna get on there because musk is doing it, and I wonder how many people are gonna get on there because of the Santas. How he shows up today, it's gotta be so important on how you prepare meaning. I'm sitting with him Casey, I'm saying babe, tell these five jokes, okay? Self-deprecate yourself a little bit, okay?

Talk about what it is, about being a father, you know, what it is, you know, about being a father, how much you love being that, but you know, you're doing your best to be a great father and your marriage and how much you love America, but self-deprecate a little bit yourself. If you can do that because today, it's really a Nixon opportunity, meaning Nixon was great on radio.

You don't see this antists as face tonight. It's Twitter spaces. It's a good position for him to be only as a voice, not the face and reaction or any of that. There's no visual, what's the return? No, Twitter spaces are only audio. So anyways, those are some of the things I'm thinking about when it comes onto this.

So let me just say, yeah, go ahead. Well, I just wanna say, I disagree. Yeah. And I'm gonna tell you why I disagree. We have to understand this. Decent is not winning a general election right now. We're still in the primary. And I think that sometimes people who do this and sort of like are in this world, in this media world, in this political world or whatever, sometimes we can be in a bit

of a bubble, right? And so I want to step out of the bubble a little bit and we have to realize that his pure focus right now is beating Donald Trump for the Republican presidential nomination. It's not appealing to independence, it's not trying to get people from the left to come in, it is to beat Donald Trump to present himself to Republican primary voters as the viable alternative to Donald Trump. So I think that what he needs to do right now and what he's doing is he has to get out to where these people are. So the view in CNN and MSNBC and mainstream,

those are not a concern until he gets the nomination because those people hate his guts already. So his team is making the calculation that I have to go where my people are. So I don't know that these low numbers on YouTube, and I don't know that these low numbers are indicative of a lack of enthusiasm, and I don't even know these low numbers on YouTube, and I don't know that these low numbers are indicative of a lack of enthusiasm, and I don't even know if there needs to be

a whole lot of enthusiasm for the announcement outside of this base. The only thing he needs is that base. He needs enough Republican primary voters to make the choice for him against Donald Trump. And then after that, that's when he goes to the gauntlet of the mainstream news. And one more point that I want to make is that when we talk about DeSantis having to go

on here, Joe Rogue and the Making Kelly podcast, I think that as people that have a sphere of influence and the sort of free thinking, conservative media world, like whatever you want to call it, I think that there's responsibility for us to ask these people tough questions as well. Not to be like the view where we're actively going out against you, but to ask real questions, Megan Kelly has said before on her show that she has been inviting the Santis on for months and he won't take the invite

because Megan Kelly is gonna ask him questions. Of course. And I think that that's our responsibility, Megan Kelly's responsibility, Joe Rogan's responsibility, to ask them tough in real questions, but not to be attacking them in a way that they know that she and NMS me so. I don't think anyone, I don't think Joe's attacking.

I think Joe's gonna be the safest place for him to go. Yes. And again, I think Joe has the gift of making people like you, like he increases your likability score. I think Megan Kelly has women that follow her that are gonna be saying, okay, if Megan Kelly gives the nod, because Megan Kelly is not gonna be a Trump supporter.

Yeah, yeah. She's gonna be more the Santas. So it's a very safe place as well for her to go to, for him to go to. But, you know, again, hopefully you're right. I think sometimes when you're saying Trump's camp has only people around him that are telling him what he wants to hear. I think the same can be said about the same thing. Oh, absolutely. I think that was the biggest

flop of any book launches in a history of presidential candidates for him to come out with the book and the launch did the way that it did. Yeah. I can't think of a person who was at the number one position or number two position for president to launch the book as bad as they did. All he had to do with the book launch is tell us publisher, wait three months. Let's launch it in June. Let's launch it in May. Not let's launch it in February. Everybody forgot, you just made, you forgot that his book came out four months ago.

I forgot it came out and I didn't know that it did. I mean, it just went to the book came out. It just, it happened and then it kind of disappeared. No, that just made, you forgot that his book came out four months ago. I forgot it came out and I didn't know that it did. I mean, it just- Three months ago the book came out. It happened and then it kind of disappeared. I mean, that's terrible, bro. I didn't go to any part of it. The point is, I don't know, it should have launched right about now. Yeah, of course.

You launched today on the Twitter spaces. Today's the day you launched. Well, again, his biggest problem is that he has a marketing problem. That's, you know, he's going to have to address that. And then back to your point, you're absolutely right. He is focused on has a marketing problem. That's, you know, he's gonna have to address that. And then back to your point, you're absolutely right. He is focused on the primary right now. Yeah. The general rules, you focus on the primary,

then you pivot in the general election. We all know that. Yeah. He does have a game plan, an agenda, I remember the whole whiteboard thing, where essentially, if you look at the conservative base, you know, one third of it is never going to not vote for Trump. Never happening, not happening whatsoever.

Another third of it is potentially maybe like a quarter of it, potentially willing to go outside of Trump or to Santos, right? Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, Pence, what have you. So meeting there's a chunk, 50% or so, that is quote unquote right for the taking. This is his game plan. So, his intentions are he's going to the run to the right of Trump.

He's gonna say, I'm more conservative than Trump. I have more conservative values than Trump. That's not my opinion. That is literally his game plan. You're right. Okay. I don't think it's a good move for them. And then you shittin' me, that's not my opinion. That is literally his game. You're right. Okay. I don't think it's a good good move for them. And then you hit me. That's a terrible. It's it. Yeah. That's Ted Cruz. I don't want it. That's the Ted Cruz. Yeah. I don't want to hijack, but you know, in that conversation that we were having in the in the three hour, that three and a half hour dinner, there are some things about the space and there's some

things about the people that they need that they don't get. They do not get. Well, wait, what was that again? Say that again. I think that there are some things about where the space is right now. We've got a conservative free thinking independent, whatever. There are things about the space that they do not get. I agree. There's things about the space that they do not get. Because again, you're in a bubble. The same thing you said with Trump, you're saying he's in a bubble. I actually think he's in a lesser of a bubble than the Sanctus is in a bubble. You made me right. I think Trump's bubble, he's got people around him that, look, he'll go to UFC. He has people like Dana White around. We think Dana's going to be like, yes, sir. Dana. What do you think about this? Can I ask you

question, what happened on the thing with you and Elon? I mean, let's, yes sir. Dana, what do you think about this? Hey, can I ask you a question? What happened on the thing with you on the line? I mean, let's, let's, hey, what happened with you and Morgan? I talked to Jody the other day. I don't see Dana white B&A, that guy. You go on NELK boys, it's very risky to talk to younger, younger, 20, 30 year old boys and you're like,

yeah, you don't ever know what those guys are gonna be asking you. They're not like proper Sean had any safe space. So I think, I think believe it or not, I think Trump has less protection than DeSantis has. DeSantis has been, it's like a fighter. And by the way, this is what's gonna sound crazy. I see this guy as a brawler. I totally see this guy, like this guy is a brawler.

He's a fighter. Hey, can you guys honestly take those masks down? Like, why do you want, you don't need to do this, take your masks off. What are we doing here? I like that. You know what, we're not gonna do that right now. I like that.

There's a part of that that, and by the way, do you remember back in the days, people used to say America's not ready for a president out of New York. You know, it's like Chris Christie, we just, New York is not America. We're not ready for somebody that's gonna be so bombastic and well guess what? What are you talking about? America's ready for a guy just New York is not America. We're not ready for somebody that's gonna be so bombastic.

Well guess what? What are you talking about? America's ready for a guy from New York. So, and this guy's not from New York. He's more proper, he's a fighter, he's being protected a little too much. You gotta go fight some people that are not. And there's your fighter analogy.

I think his whole narrative for months now, don't forget, he just won re-election for Governor of, November. That was his focus, right? He crushed the living, not out of Charlie Christ. God. And his whole thing was like, listen, speaking of being in a bubble,

we're focused on descendants. So we live in Florida. It's clearly based on national media or YouTube. It's not a main focus. He's been focused on Florida. His whole narrative. The number surprised you. A little bit, but again, his whole thing is, I'm not a main focus. He's been focused on Florida. His whole narrative. The number surprised you. A little bit, but again, his whole thing is,

I'm not a candidate yet. They're talking about me so much. Trump's going against me. He spent millions of dollars again. I'm not even a candidate. I'm not even a candidate. But I'll tell you what, what to speak to your fighter analogy, remember in Rocky and Apollo Creed,

when they go out and then they do their fight, and he goes, all right, how do we want to do this? And Apollo just goes, ding, ding. The fight is on now, as of today. Rocky was for the people. The Sanctus is not yet coming across as he's for the people. Rocky won the people. He has to win the people.

Listen, Rhonda Santis, KC, whoever's watching this, if you watch this clip at all, Governor Rhonda Santis, we're in Florida because of you. Yes. I got a recommendation for you. Get away from everybody and watch the movie gladiator. And then go to the scene where Russell Crowe asks, I also won my freedom. And he says the magical words, win the crowd, win your freedom. You're brilliant.

You're smart. You're intellectual. you're smart, you're intellectual, you're intelligent, you got a great resume, you have one, you have not won their freedom, you have not won the people, you have to do whatever you can to win the people today, okay? Not the smart people in the room. Now sometimes you're like, well, I can sit with anybody and I can beat them intellectually.

Dude, that's not how you win, okay? I can sit there and tell you, that's not how you got to win the crowd. You got to win the crowd. We had a girl years ago when I got into the insurance space. This girl was the smartest girl in our office. It's 2003, okay? She saw herself as an Oprah Winfrey, smart girl, brilliant.

And everybody would go to her to questions. So some of the guys that I was training would say things like this to me. They would say, Pat, I gotta tell you, and I go to her because she knows more about insurance than you do. I'm like, does she? Yeah, she knows more about products than you do.

I said, you're right, go to her. So they would go to her to learn about products, but they would come to me when it came down to sell. They would come to me when it was time to promote. They would come to me when it was time to train. It would come to me when it was time to promote. It would come to me when it was time to train. It would come to me when it was time to drive. And guess what? I knew about products as well.

But she spent her entire life wanting to know everything about the product and not the people. And in all of a sudden, fast forward 10 years later, she's by herself. Knows everything about products, but she's got nobody to train. And everybody wakes up and says, oh my God, we thought that guy didn't know any kind of products but he won the crowd. Nobody cares how much you know about policy level at the humane level. You can out-school any governor, any

senator, any congressman, anybody when it comes down to issues, yes, but you got to win the crowd. And you have not won the crowd yet. That's my biggest criticism. You win the crowd, you win your election, you become a president. PPD, you are 10 million percent accurate. I was hoping to be 11 million percent on all of this. Well, you know, my math is so good.

I got to get better. I'm trying to win the people today. Because I'll tell you why. You see, like in the Republican primary, people are like, how did Trump do it? How did Trump do it? Well, you know, they said you got to talk to people that get a fifth grade level,

but they broke down candidates, and it was like, well, Jeb Bush talks at a sixth grade level. Ted Cruz is at an eighth grade level, and that Trump is at a third grade level, and I don't mean that condescendingly. I mean, he is talking right to the people, simple terms, build a wall, lock her up, drain the swamp. These are messaging points that people can chant,

get behind. DeSantis, as of now, has none of that. And I gotta tell you about Trump. Okay, so you guys met Trump, yes? Okay, so, met him multiple times. And the amount of charisma that this person has, is that like, people can see it it and people can see the videos of the Rouse or whatever, but the charisma is off the charts.

There's extra charisma. There's extra charisma. This is somebody that can go into a room. He can talk the billionaires. He can talk to the guy that's the cashier that Donald. And that is something they're these intangibles, right? There are certain things that you cannot teach. There are certain things that you cannot teach. There are certain things that you cannot train.

You cannot train the ability. You cannot teach the ability that he has to connect with the American people. And one more thing that I will say about Trump, if we're talking to Trump versus the Santa saying, and this is what I think a lot of people miss. There is now a nostalgia factor for a lot of people in the base when it comes to the Donald Trump presidency Because when they look back at their actual lives not with the media was saying not with you know paid operatives and the the Magan camp or the DeSantis camp are saying When they look back to their actual lives their lives were better their gas was cheaper their grossers are cheaper

They were making more money and the money that they were making was going further cheaper, they were making more money and the money that they were making was going further. So now they feel the results of this Biden economy in their own lives. And man, I want to go back to that. I remember what my life was like when he brought it. Tom, can I build you up for a second? I think what Tom said is almost metaphorical. Sure, cool. Okay, I'm not going to touch your Tom.

I'll touch it. I'll touch it. What you said about the analogy, how you're a geek and you would go to the Silicon Valley type things and you saw the Reed Hoffins of the world and the Elon Musk of the world and the Peter Teals of the world. And they were just kind of these nerdy tech guys getting started.

Suddenly famous, yeah. Little companies. And now you look at them now and they've been media trained and they're media savvy. Think about how long. I found a congress a couple times. Exactly times exactly all that just think about how long Trump Has been in front of the cameras and on stage. We're talking 40 years, all right in New York in New York and New York And he's so and we're talking to Santa's we're talking four years, okay, maybe so he's got some catching up to do

Anyway, this is what I was saying. No, I'm in relation to what you're saying. I want to give Tom the last final thoughts and then we'll go to the next story. Go ahead Tom. I think whatever you've been member is its baseball season. Right now this feels a little bit like spring training. And in 60 days in August, we're going to have two all candidate debates. One is in Milwaukee, the other is in Simee Valley,

and they're in August. Opening day, Tom. That is opening day of the Republican, and then guess what happens? Nothing happens for 120 days until we get to January. And so what will happen in those 120 days? Well, if interest rates don't move the other way, people are all thinking about how they're doing.

If there is a recession and more layoffs to the end of the year, people are gonna be thinking about what they're doing. There is a lot of opportunities to talk to candidates over those 120 days to say, what's your plan? What's your plan? It sucks now, I know you want us all to vote for you, but what's your plan? For 120 days from opening day,

and it's gonna get kind of tough, and it's going to get kind of tough, and it's going to get redundant, and a little boring. But then the first poll is at the beginning of January, because it's a fact that the, because it's Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina. So you have Iowa, which is now really a light blue state now. It's no longer red. It is light blue.

And then you have New Hampshire, which is very light red, always contrasting Vermont that is dark blue And then you get South Carolina bright red those happen in and I say that's baseball playoffs That's when the game really starts in January of those playoffs But we're gonna go through just like the long summer of baseball We can see what's gonna happen, but what is happening right now? It is pride organizations are canceling events all over Florida due to climate of fear after state passes anti-LGBTQ laws. This is an insider story. Pride events in Florida are being canceled due to the law and organizations, organizers and St. Cloud canceled their events citing the unsafe environment created by recent laws

targeting the LGBTQ community, the decision followed, the signing of a bill by Governor Ron DeSantis that imposes penalties on businesses allowing children to witness adult life performances with potentially sexually explicit content, other private events in Tampa, St. Louis, Port Saint-Loucis, and Lake County have also been canceled due to concerns over this.

MSNBC guests claims Florida is about to be a terrorist state for black and LGBT Q people. This is a mediaite story. Democratic strategist Aisha Seamil appeared on MSNBC deadline and claimed that Florida is about to be a terrorist state for black and LGBT Q people praising the NAACP's travel advisory as extremely clever. Mills expressed her personal discomfort as a lesbian and a black woman stating that she does not want to have anything to do with Florida and believes that many others feel the same way. She commented, she commended the NAACP for issuing the advisory

and thank them for their broad guidance and the representative Brian Donnell's criticized the travel advisory as stupid and without basis while Fox News contributor, heraldorevera dismissed it as a fear mongering publicity stunt. trying Donald's criticized the travel advisory as stupid and without basis, wild fox news contributor or Aldo Rivera dismissed it as a fear mongering publicity stunt. So how much of this, what they're doing, are they trying to, you know, they're realizing the Santis is potentially going to be who he's going to be and they're trying to target him?

What do you think is, and can they actually make Florida terrorist days? What do you think about these two stories? It's ridiculous. Look, am I allowed to, like, what's the language being around this thing? Look, number one, like, I'm a black A dude, and Iyasha Meals is full of shit. Yeah.

All right, she's full of shit. And what's going on here? You have to understand, there's a lot of different thing that's going on. Rhonda Santas is seen as, so I think that the left is, is more scared of Rhonda Santas than they are of Donald Trump, just because they know how to, how to do will Trump, and they're not quite sure how scared of around the Santas than they are of Donald Trump, just because they know how to do what Trump and they're not quite sure how to do with the Santas, right?

So there's a lot of these, this political stuff that is happening that's sort of trying to make it seem as if Florida is just this apartheid state and if you are black or gay or both or whatever than you just live in this constant fear and constant danger. It is completely ridiculous. I've been living in Florida for the past three years. I've been living in Miami for the past year. This is a great place.

It might have been black, white, gay, straight. Whatever. Florida is just a great place to live, okay? And so what this is all about is the LGBTQIAK plus plus the alphabet people, the rainbow mafia, right? I don't identify with any of this. I'm just gay dude. But they are, they're becoming this sort of target market for the Democrats, right?

They wanna make them another victim group, like they've made black people a victim group, that they've tried to make Latinos a victim group. They wanna make these LGBT people like a victim group for them. So in order for them to be a victim group for the left, they have to push their propaganda. That says that you can't live in Florida, all of these laws are bad, all of this other

stuff. It is completely ridiculous. Like it just is not based in reality. And when you look at these quote unquote anti-LGBTQ laws, it is again bullshit. Number one, there's no such thing as a trans child. And a lot of these laws are basically, it laws in Florida and other states. It's basically saying that we need to pump the brakes

on pumping young kids full of puberty blockers and doing all these experiments that do not have any long term studies. Okay, that is not anti-L's, refuited whatever that is. It's like just pro-com in the sense, okay? And so look, I'm somebody like, oh my God, like, you know, I watched RuPaul's Drag Race and I went to Drag Brunch and all of that other stuff. It is making

Kelliets at the same thing on her podcast. I heard it. It had always been just this fun thing for adults to do. And it had to do adults. Adults. And this had never become a thing that was oriented towards children until recently in the past five to seven years. And I'll say something that got me in a little bit of trouble when I said this on other outlets. What a lot of people don't realize about

the fact that all of this stuff is now being targeted towards kids. The drag queen story hours and the transitioning of kids, all of this other stuff. What you have to understand is that the radical, far-left queer theory people, okay, that is where all of this stuff comes from.

And the fundamental goal for the queer theory people is a normalization of pedophilia, right? And so you have to understand that that is where this is all supposed to be headed, that is their goal. But the idea that Florida is someplace, that is not a great place, that is not a safe space, that is somewhere that is dangerous for me as a black gay dude is fundamentally ridiculous,

it's complete bullshit. And anybody with half a brain will see the political machinations I play here. Yeah, Rob, I couldn't have said a better one. Completely agree, by the way, is there anybody that can weigh in on this better than a black gate dude living in Florida? I mean, hello, you couldn't even write this. Correct. Oh, guys. This is from Columns. Yeah, exactly. So it's a better like you can. Yeah. This is so nonsensical, hyperbolic and hypocrisy

at its finest. So I'm not a black gate, dude. I'm just in straight white, dude. But I'll give you, I've been living in white dude, but I'll give you a, I've been living in Florida for over 40 years. I thought you were going to come out for some. No, this is, this is, we're breaking this was like an announcement. This is in that episode because today's the day of announcement, Ron made the announcement, I thought maybe you were going to stay tuned for tomorrow's cast. No, actually, it was going to be a announcement. I'm straight on this podcast. So breaking news. So we convinced them, y'all. Okay, you are telling us how far before you were.

So what I was gonna say is I've lived in Florida for 40 years. And if you know anything about Florida, Memorial Day weekend, which is this weekend. Yeah. Black people from all over the country come here for summer break. Yeah. Black people.

Black people. It used to be Atlanta, Freaknik, whatever it used to be. Freaknik, I used to go, you get that. Freaknik, I should have been there done that. Right book store. Yeah. My type of book store. But so, I, like, how many black people are going to be like, yeah, yeah, all that, all

that LGBT pride gate, NWACP come out. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I'm still going to get my free gun and South Beach. Yeah. So it's, it's so not sensitive. And then last week or last month was Pride Week in Miami. Of course. Zero issues. Literally.

No problems. On Sunday brunch, if you ever been to the on ocean drives, they have the path. Yes. Rob knows it. I mean, you know, I've heard the drag queen stuff. So like the narrative is not matching reality. It's ridiculous. And let me make a point because you brought,

it's really funny that you brought this up. So in literally, and I was gonna tweet about this, I was gonna do a little video about this. Miami Beach has a pride event. Miami Beach Pride. This is literally subsidized by the Florida government. They have all sorts of sponsors there. They were very expensive DJs that were there.

There were sponsorships from Delta, American Express, there were police officers there, all of that are stuff completely free to anybody that wanted to go by the way. Oh yeah, so Florida is such a terrorist state. Yeah, and Ron DeSantis is basically Stalin when it comes to gay people, right? It's ridiculous, like it just does not pass

the smell test even for a second. And here's a thing about the gay and lesbian vote. I don't say LGBTQ and nobody should say LGBTQ because this is like, it's just, it's ridiculous. Like, most people, we're talking about gay and lesbian's here, right? In the last election, they had found that 30% of gays and lesbians voted for Trump, right? So that's a 70, 30 split. I personally think that it's more because I come across gay guys all the time. At first, when I came out as a conservative gay dude or whatever, at first, it's like, you know, you lose all your friends, everybody's like, oh, you're a pariah, right?

But now, like, I go to, oh, hey, Rob, you're that guy, right? Yeah, yeah, I'm that guy. No, now I understand what you're saying. Oh, this trans kid stuff is crazy. All of this, you know, this drag queen stuff is crazy. Why there have to be kids? They're all of that other stuff. So gays and lesbians are more conservative

than people think, especially, you know, it's like a gay dude that's making 250k plus a year. You think this person is gonna be voting for Democrats? Absolutely not. Why? No, they're thinking about taxes or thinking about, say, community, same thing, everybody else is thinking about things. They think about the same thing, everybody else is thinking about things.

It's identity politics. Oh, absolutely. Oh, you're black. And you're just a monster. You're just a monster. Democrat, right? Absolutely. It's bomb words.

This is, this is, we're all done. Some did it perfectly. This is a fear mongering publicity stunt. He was in, out. He's been around a long time he sees these are just bomb words i couldn't point at somebody in y'all racist racist you know it's distracting bomb words and what is interesting iisha mills who is full of craft as you pointed out she called it oh that was extremely clever she didn't

say wow that's an important message to keep people safe that's what you say if you really think there's a problem that's what you say if you really think there's a problem. That's what you say if you think there is really risks somewhere. Instead, she comes out, oh, that was very clever to say it that way. I bet that was very telling. It's like she unveiled the whole, you know, lunacy of the issue. Look, there's a famous poet that once said, for those that are wondering whether they should come to Florida or not to have a good time. This famous poet said,

get your freak on. I think it's Missy Elliott. Okay, so if you're looking at coming to Florida to have a good time, don't worry about it. Come on down here. She is right. And for those of you guys that have a family and you want to come down here and get your freak on in a different way, with your own spouse, you can move to Fort Lauderdale or Palm Beach or Bocca or Ball Harbor right now. We're looking at properties all over the place.

We're looking at Miami right now because we're wondering what we're going to be doing with the land that we're going to buy. We're going to buy the land here. Mayor Swars is a very, very aggressive recruiter. And he's trying to talk to us about potentially moving by a team into Miami. But we're going to see what's going to happen. Miami, but we're we're gonna see what's gonna have it.