PBD Podcast - Roger Stone Reacts To Joe Biden's State Of The Union Speech | Ep. 234 | Part 1

Episode Date: February 9, 2023

On this episode, Patrick Bet-David and Roger Stone will discuss: Joe Biden's state of the union speech  Donald Trump roasting Joe Biden's speech  US Shooting Down Chinese Spy Balloon FaceTime or Ask Patrick any questions on https://minnect.com/ Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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So we're doing it again. The other one that we run live was a podcast from yesterday, but we're live. OK, special podcast, 234. We're going to talk about the State of the Union speech. We have Vincent O'Shauna in the house. We have the great Roger Stone in the house. Kai, we got a lot of things to talk about.

It was an interesting speech. If you did get a chance to watch it, there was a legendary history-making kiss that I think it will be talked about for many, many decades to come. That deserves to be on the cover of Time Magazine. It's one of those top events of the year. Somebody needs to write a book

and put that on the cover of it. Absolutely. We're gonna talk about how the first Prime Minister president, somebody, will talk about who used Chad GBT to prepare a speech. We'll react to that. Elon had some thoughts and concerns about Chad GBT

that's going on. A few other statistics on what's going on with the economy will touch on that as well. And then as well as yesterday, we went live with a what do you call it,in martin podcast we had uh... that did very well we got a lot of commentary on it you know it's been a lot of reactions a lot of other channels react to it was great really enjoyed the banter in the debates i think the audience one

uh... there's a video that jason witlock i think it's last twenty videos reacting to an event that took place which we will at which i will uh... react to at the end of the podcast and give you my thoughts. But having said that, let's get right into it. Roger, you've seen many city union speeches. Yeah. You've been around, you've seen a couple of these things.

How would you rate yesterday's, was it a good for them, and if it was in what way? I think it was a very effective speech. Like any president, you stress the things you think are going well, or the things you can put the best possible spin on, you try to ignore or deemphasize those things that are not going well. There were times during this speech where I could close my eyes and I could almost see Donald Trump rhetorically.

America first, bring back America, American manufacturing jobs, stand up to China. Taking credit in some cases for things that Trump did, no, it was Trump who capped the price of insulin, for example. And while it is true that an increase of 12.8 million jobs is very impressive, it doesn't take into consideration how many jobs were lost because of the COVID-19 pandemic. And therefore, it's still true that there are fewer people working today than we're working at the end of the Trump administration. And then, of course, the president continues to maintain, I inherited a mess on inflation. No, actually he inherited the lowest inflation rates in decades and it's

his number one problem. Republicans particularly understand the correlation between spending and inflation. I'm not sure all voters understand the correlation between spending and inflation, but that's what a presidential campaign is about about he acts like a man who's running so it do you think like if you watch the the stated union do you think it's gave a better aptec for the audience to say you know what i think this guy can run again and go run for the next time for himself

do you think was a good look for democrats do you think democratic voters are sitting there saying well in your face republic, I thought he did a good job. How would you see specifically with optics? Because I know a lot of politics, there's policies, but then there's also optics. How did he look in regards to optics? A little too soon to say. Okay.

Because you have the event, then you have the interpretation of the event by the media, then you have the impact of that on voters. The number of people who think he should run has been systematically dropping. It was 52 several months ago. It's now down to about 37. We'll see if it bounces or floats back up.

Remains to be seen. I thought that the content overall was better than his performance. I never think it's a good idea to yell. I think yelling, I mean. That never happens. We don't like that. Well, it's too hot. It's too hot for a political leader.

In fact, when you want them to listen, you actually drop your voice on the more important points. Something Nixon was commented on. So he goes back and forth between being conciliatory, but yelling. Overall though, there has to be some consistency. This is a president who only months ago had a very dark speech in which he basically condemned 50% of the people calling them extremists because they don't agree with him. So on the one hand, he wants to be conciliatory with Republicans.

And I was glad that he talked about cancer and some of these other issues where hopefully we can get some bipartisan cooperation. But to talk about the fentanyl crisis and not attribute it to the open borders policies of this administration. It's just unrealistic. The problem in our border is not lack of money or lack of resources. It's lack of will.

It's a bad policy. Illegal crossings were down to a trickle at the end of the Trump administration. Illegal crossings now are hitting records. I think this is largely responsible for the fentanyl crisis in the country. So you can't you can't fight fentanyl unless you're prepared to close down the borders. So can we can we do this? Can we show the clip of Rob if you can of a few different things. So I got notes here. I got the good bat ugly score. What was a win to me for Democrats for him? What was awkward? What was a loss? Different topics. But can you show the clip of the

kiss that Jill Biden and Kamala Harris, if you can find that while you're doing that, go ahead, man. Do you know who, so do you see it Roger when Jill Biden came down and I didn't realize this her husband or in his name is Doug M off He's the first second gentleman of our entire political He's Kamala's husband and Joe Biden can there and it wasn't just like listen We're Middle Eastern yeah Roger when we when we see other family members, you know Maybe a kiss some some some people do three they literally locked eyes and it wasn't just a okay accidental here It was a it was a moment where even the people around them were like are we three, they literally locked eyes and it wasn't just, okay, accidental here. It was a, it was a moment where even the people around them were like, are we, are we

on camera to save right now? And it's like, if comma, like, if that was somebody, like, my mom, if that was her over there, and then that happened, my mom would have jumped over, I don't give a damn, jumped over these aisles and beat the hell out of you. Like, that's, that's just, it's just, it's ridiculous. Like look, he knows he's about to get the, he knows what's coming. He's about to give it to us. He's the one that initiates. He starts, okay, can we say,

who's the old lady in the middle? That's just stuck right there. Do you guys know who that is? Who is it? Don't recognize. That's probably like his mom or something. We can't, can we play that? Well, I want to see that. Oh, no sound.

Ooh. That was a good one. Look at that. I love him. That's on the lips, right? I mean, that's straight up on the lips. Of course. Look. So here's my question.

Here's my question. I think you can run for office, right? You're essentially born in America. So everybody here is a natural citizen. I'm not. So to me, is this an American thing? Like, is it normal for one to kiss another man's wife, let alone, is that an American? Is that a normal thing to do?

No. And this is just a distraction. I mean, it's like a UK daily mail moment, you know. But no, I don't think it, I don't think it's a cultural thing. By the way, you can run for anything, but President of the United States. Pat Good, who? Yes, you. Yeah, I'm not interested in that. I understand, but just the fact that you're not natural born

whatever that means, doesn't mean you couldn't run for. Yeah, so I mean, to me, when I see something like this, I'm a little bit weirded out by it, you know, to say, hey, it's okay to do something like this. Do you find that weird as well? So just me. I found it very weird. I was listening to this in the car this morning,

and I didn't even notice until we played it back. And I was like, what, that is very weird. And the internet has definitely been sharing this more than enough. And you guys know who that is. That's Paul Pelosi with the hat right there. And that's Bono on the left. You see, thank God he didn't shame. I got it.

Yeah. That's hilarious. That would have been hilarious. Yeah, what would he have? But yeah, it was just awkward thing to do, and especially when you know all the cameras are on you, they're applauding you. You just walked into the room, and then that's the furt, like that's she didn't do this

with anybody else. It was just, it was just to the second gentleman though. Okay, so, so does anybody care? Is this like even anything? So meaning let's just say, let's just say it trumps wife kisses, Mike Pence, Mike Pence is kind of like doing that, right? Or is that like, who would that be?

No, it would be Mike Pence as well that that doesn't work Yeah, but it would be opposite. No, it's just still somebody's I don't know man. I just somebody's wife or husband Like locking lips or that I that was that right off the rip because that was the first thing I saw I was like oh my god that really just happened and then he opened the open with calling a Chuck Schumer the Minority what do you want to call? Right when he went on the stage, he had a gap right up the rim. Okay, so anyways, to me, it's very weird, but I have my own thoughts on this.

I'll get into it and I'll call Vinnie Ressi, if you guys I'd love to get a little bit more content on this as well. So first of all, I think the following about what happened. If we were to survey a hundred different people, say 40 Republicans, 40 Democrats, 20 independent libertarians and say, how well of a job you think Biden is going to do, given the state of the Union speech, okay?

And they put their scores. The four. Not after, before. I think the average person is going to say, you know, four, a five, it's what they're going to expect for him to do, right? It's like a guy you have that's on the bench who averages six points a game and you put him in He scored 17 points. He's like we were not expecting 17 points from this guy I think that's what he did

He went in and I think it was a very good look for him the Democrats again my opinion on what happened the most awkward part was that Okay, I think the part that I give credit to is the following. I'll get into that here in a minute. Here's some of the things he talked about. Number one, inflation. He blame Putin on inflation. We cut that so that blame game, you don't gain credibility there anytime you do that,

but we know where that's going. And then the last two years, 10 million jobs, 10 million Americans have applied to start a new business. Okay, so you kind of appealing to the small business owner, we get that, that's a good speech that's given. Then the next thing was social security every five years, you know, how Rick Scott is negotiating for this. I think that was a massive, massive victory for him.

It, because it was off the cuff, it was uncomfortable. If you can play it, this is like, if you show a highlight of Michael Jordan going over Sam Perkins and switching and making the shot with his left hand, I think this was his moment. If you want to just press play, so the audience can zoom in so they can hear it and see it.

Yeah, zoom it even closer, even closer. You don't need to see the words just to face. There you go, if you can click on it. So watch this, this is the moment. Audio on the bottom right. It wasn't all the oil refineries anyway, so watch it. Oh, this isn't the one. This is this is a complete different thing. This is the oil refiner one. The one I'm talking about is where what is this one here? No, that's a different

one as well. There's a clip where the Republicans and him, they're talking about social security and they're talking about Medicare. So if you go on YouTube or Twitter and type on social security, Medicare Biden, it'll come up. I think that was as highlight. And I know it's very hard for Republicans to even give credit to him. I think that's as highlight.

Is that the one? How many minutes is that? Buck 37? That should be the one. Press play and audio. Hey there, fair share of summary points. Okay, rewind. Watch this. Here's when it gets nasty. Unless I agree to the wreck and I plans.

All of you at home should know what those plans are. Watch this. Instead of making the wealthy pay their fair share. She looks very happy. Summary publicans want Medicare and Social Security to sunset. Sunset is not. Well, look, I'm not saying it's a majority. Yeah, what one person talked to you about?

Right set up. Yeah. Anybody who doubts it. Contact my office. Contact him. Like I'm asking a cop. Wait, wait, watch for it. Wait for it.

For POSL. Well, you're right. I mean, Congress doesn't vote. I'm glad to see you. No, I'll tell you, I enjoy conversion. You know, it means that if Congress doesn't keep the programs away, they are, they go away. How other Republicans say, I'm not saying it's a majority of you. I don't even think it's even a significant...

What is being proposed by individuals? I'm not, I'm not blaming, not naming them, but it's being proposed by some of you. Look, the idea is that we're not going to be, we're not going to be moved into being threatened to default on the data if we don't respond. Watch this. Folks, watch. He corners them. And then he makes all the Republican stand up. Watch this. This is his highlight.

So folks, as we all apparently agree, so security Medicare is off the books now, right? They're not to this far. All right. Watch this and then note, hang on, you don't have anymore? Oh, the best part is missing. You know what's the best part, what he does right after this? He says, so can we all stand up if you agree to protect seniors?

And he makes every body stand up that even boot him. So look, if you can go minute 42 gold with the last 10 seconds Yeah, that's the one Don't do that don't do that because it's hurting the years Go back to Buck 20 Yeah, go back to Buck So folks as we all apparently agree So screw you We all believe that anyways right afterwards you make

Everybody stand up So folks as we all apparently agree So screw you We all believe that anyways right afterwards you make Everybody stand up So folks as we all apparently agree So so security medical care is also all so important. Okay, we all believe this. Anyways, right afterwards, you make everybody stand up. You can just pause it.

He gets everybody else's stand up. So I thought I was a defining moment for him. That's a highlight. Okay, for him to... And this is why. Let me explain why. Okay, you have to know this is... We don't sit here every week and talk about how amazing Joe Biden is.

Okay. have to know this is, we don't sit here every week and talk about how amazing Joe Biden is, okay. But to me, strategically, when you go off the script and it's all about the teleprompter, and there is a 75 second moment that you can't lean on the teleprompter, and that comes off the cuff to do that, I think you got to give the guy credit on being able to leverage on any kind of cornering McCartney, because he took away a of cards away to negotiate. Now, I would love to see your thoughts because you look like you got a couple of things to say. I disagree with you just about all of that. First of all, McCartney announced the morning before the speech that Medicaid and Social Security off the table, not going to consider cuts in any ways.

Joe just lost his big bugle blue issue. They always use an October. Oh, vote against the Republicans. They're gonna cut your social security. It's very clear that that's not in our plan. I've also never seen that kind of reaction at all in a state of the Union address. They take one senator, Rick Scott, who has a plan, by the way, I don't think any other senator supports.

And he signals him out and tries to imply that that this is uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... this is uh... more emblematic of the overall republican party so uh... I don't think uh... I think he just lost an issue that they use as a scare tactic there's no one understand and trump by the way treated about this prior to the event, to the Republicans saying, so security, Medicare, have to be off the table.

The other thing here, of course, is that our politics moves so fast and our electorate is so volatile that any conclusion we reach here today, or any impression that Biden makes on the voters, can change within days. I mean, as we've seen in this recent controversy regarding the Chinese surveillance balloon, an event like that can so completely suck up the oxygen on all political coverage and change things overnight. No, I absolutely kind of agree that he did. I was surprised by Biden, be quite honest. I mean, every time he goes up to speak, you just wonder what he's going to do to

screw it up or how he's going to make it look worse. But in this speech, overall, I was thoroughly impressed. He looked presidential and especially considering the way he was at his campaign speeches and how he was stumbling and going back and forth and you're like, what's going on? It was like watching a NASCAR race and everybody watches it to watch, I wanna see the big crash

and you just saw some fender benders but nothing really, really bad happened because Madhu, when I watch speeches like that, I'm in Barris as an American citizen, as a veteran because I'm biting my nails like what? Because he messed up a couple of times some words, he can't really articulate them. I think he said prescription drugs once,

but he was like, so, wjup, wjup, wjup, wjup, wjup, he's like a four year old. But I mean, it's just like you're waiting for that mistake and like, who knows, but he's right on the edge of like, even the way he walks. I mean, I feel, I genuinely feel bad from him because I think he's at that point.

I don't think he should run, but. I, by the way, the running conversation is a different conversation. That's a whole different conversation we can have afterwards. But to me, right afterwards, Sarah Huckabee Sanders gave a speech and she said, I'm officially the youngest governor in America at 40 years old

and President Biden is the oldest president ever at 80 years old to give the message that he gave. So I think America's kind of tired with the messaging. All I'm saying is in this specific moment, I wanna find that scene because I think it is a scene that we have to see, I think I found it here where he gets everyone to have to stand up. It's at an, yeah, there it is.

It's right here. I'll send the link to you to go to hour and one minute to share with you, but I'll keep going with the other topics that I have. He had the parents of Tyrinicles there, which is a good way to connect with what took place. And a very great opportunity for connection to talk about law enforcement needs training, great fine.

So he hit that. If Congress suggests a national ban, I will veto it, great fine. So he hit that. If Congress suggests a national ban, I will veto it, great fine. Story of fentanyl, which that was a very bad look for him, because you don't talk about what you're fixing when your leader who needs to go to the border, Kamala doesn't even go to talk to the people at the border. It's 100% hypocrisy, whether you're middle, center, left, right, it doesn't even go to talk to the people at the border. It's a hundred percent hypocrisy,

whether you're middle, center, left, right, it doesn't matter. You can't talk in that topic with a lot of credibility. I thought the baby that fought cancer. I thought I was a great story that he gave heartfelt. Again, he hit the heartfelt messages that took place. Paul Pelosi standing up. I don't know who said to have, even a shout out to Paul Pelosi.

I don't think that was a good look because things are too fresh. And you don't want a guy that's hanging out with another guy with a hammer and a beer in his hand and they're underwear to kind of give an endorsement to a person like that's a little awkward. It was another six or 12 months before we did that. It was weird, but to make that,

I think that was like feel bad for, and don't get me wrong we do that. It was it was weird, but to make that I think of that was like, like, feel bad for and don't get me wrong. I felt bad. The guy was attacked, but all the stuff leading up to and the police video, all the questions of what they said it was. So what you saw was like, wait a minute, they looked like they were just somebody walked in on them, you know what I mean? So, but the, but the, the one where he tripped on his own deal is

the one that I just gave you. If you can go to that, the one that you had up originally, which was the oil issue, okay, which was the oil issue, which I think is this one. Yeah, with the ten years. Yeah. For a decade, we're not going to exceed. We'll play. We'll play.

And beyond that. Look at this. We'll play. Watch this. This is what the oil, you need the audio. You don't need oil. Okay plate. Watch this. This is what the oil, yeah, you need the audio. You need oil. Okay, this was that. You're going to shut down all the oil wells and all the oil refineries anyway.

Like you haven't said. So I said, we're going to need oil for at least another decade. And that's going to exceed it. It'll become all of space. You shouldn't have said that. We're going to need it. You see, when I talk to a couple of them, I say we're afraid you're gonna shut down all the way.

When you saw that, what did you think about this one? So much for the new green deal. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, it's a reality. You had, for the first time, you had energy independence under Trump. Every president, Republican and Democrat,

they always pledged it. Nobody ever get it. There's enough natural oil and natural gas under the under US at territory to fuel the country for the next 100 years. For the first time, we don't have to go hat and hand to the Middle East or to Venezuela for oil. We turn on the Russian pipeline that Trump shut down, we shut down our pipeline. This makes no sense at all. And now Joe Biden has just essentially contradicted the dogma of his party that we need to be moving off of fossil fuels immediately.

I thought it was one of the weakest parts of the speech and of course Republicans were hithiiving each other. By the way, that was a, again, you, so here's kind of how I see this. There are a few people who can do without the teleprompter. He's not one of them. That's great. At all. Okay. If you were to even count on your hand, how many people can give a talk for an hour or two or three without a teleprompter? It's not a long list of names. Okay. Who would you say? You follow this sport closer than anybody else. Trump is one of them. Who else can go without a teleprompter? Very few. We make an excellent point. Very few. Would you put Obama in that list and Clinton on

that list? I think Obama could probably do it. I think he's, I think he's taste talented. Clinton could definitely do it. The problem is's, I think he's, he's talented. Clinton could definitely do it. The problem is Clinton would talk for two hours. Yeah. They're like, like, giving the light to get off. He was good, though, when he would tie. Lizzie wouldn't entertain you when he would do his part. All I'm saying is to follow on.

Here's kind of how this works. It's like, you know, your, in your floaties, in the middle of the ocean, you're okay. You're doing fine. Okay. You let the floaties go. Oh shit. It's risky.

I bet a lot of the people with a speech writers, they kept saying present and mind suggestion. Just stick to the teleprompter. Yeah. You can pause, take your time, but just read it slowly. We're going to be okay. The moment he was out there without the floaties, they're going, oh my god, what are we going to go? He made one of them up, which is the Medicare and Social Security because he got that older vote, the baby boomer vote,

the way he did it, well, maybe he got them to listen, but then he slipped up with the oil one. Yeah. And the oil one where the Democrats are like, bro, you just stick to the flip and scrap, tell a prompt there, what are you doing? So that's the part with him so i he had his flip play out a few turnovers but also thought he made a few good place no absolutely i think especially with uh... on the on the on the democrat side of how they've been so against the oil degree new deal and pushing that forward the reality is there's no doubt that there's going to be some sort of transition to some point down the road

but obviously they're pushing for a very heavy now, everything abolished oil, get rid of it, this, that and the other. And what he just proved was that the reality is that's not the case, but that's what they're pushing for. So he just kind of screwed up their argument on that end. The other obvious balloon in the room,

not the Chinese one. Is it, he has a little section there we talked about being tough on China and saying, well, we just were tough on them. But in fact, we let this balloon into US airspace. We let it essentially navigate all the way across the country from Montana to the Carolinas. And then only then do we do anything

about it other than sending a strong letter to the Chinese. I think he sustained more damage from that over the last week than anything he picked up with tough on China rhetoric in this speech. The Chinese were paying us billions and billions and billions of dollars in tariffs. He canceled that program. The Chinese clearly watching our fumbling in Afghanistan, watching what's going on in Ukraine, they've definitely got plans regarding Taiwan. The lesson of history is that weakness provokes aggression,

weakness provokes war. Yeah, but the spin doctors showed up very quickly and they said a balloon Under Trump was there for a while and you know nothing was done about it and these balloons are normal balloons Yeah, and then the the average voters sitting there saying oh, but maybe this is just a normal thing with all these balloons That I don't think I don't think that so the secretary of defense says nobody told me that there were Chinese balloons in US US airspace. Nobody else in the national security apparatus. So I think it's an effort to try to make it

usual, no big deal. Normal answer. Yeah, I don't think I don't think it worked. You don't think it worked. You know how I typically know when it didn't work is the following way, especially with his biggest opponent right now who is President Trump, right? So if President Trump talks about it, he senses it as a weakness of the opposition, he's opponent, and he knows who his opponent is. Can you play the two-minute clip of what President Trump said?

He called it the real state of the Union speech. I love it. So here's former President Donald Trump. Rob, we can't hear him without audio about it. Go back. Go back. Here's the real state of the union. Over the past two years, underbite millions and millions of illegal aliens from 160 different

countries have stormed across our southern border. Drug cartels are now raking in billions of dollars from smuggling poison to kill our people and to kill our children. Savage killers, rapists, and violent criminals are being released from jail to continue their crime wave. And under Biden, the murder rate has reached the highest in the history of our country. Biden and the radical Democrats have wasted trillions of dollars

and caused the worst inflation in half a century. Real wages are down 21 months in a row. Gas prices have soared and are now going up much higher than even before. And the typical American family is paying $2,200 in increased energy and food costs each year. Joe Biden's weaponized justice department, and I'm a victim of it, is persecuting his political opponents. His administration is waging war on free speech.

They're trying to indoctrinate and mutilate our children. He's leading us to the brink of World War III, and on top of all of that, he's the most corrupt president in American history, and it's not even close. But the good news is we are going to reverse every single crisis, calamity, and disaster that Joe Biden has created.

I am running for President to end the destruction of our country and to complete the unfinished business of making America great again. We will make our country better than ever before and we will always put America first. Thank you. Okay so so millions of immigrants yeah honor different countries, that's his campaign. He just gave you his place. Right there. Yeah. Number two.

Sexy nature issue. Beautiful. Yeah, exactly. Absolutely. Savages and rapists are being released from prison, sanctuary cities or, you know, border, fine grade, three. Real wages are down 21 months in a row. Economy, it's a strength.

Typical American family paying $2,200 and increased energy and food cost. It's belt, middle America, he's talking to loan middle and come families. The average family is spending Joe Biden's weaponized justice department, perfect on what is going on with that, and now it's back firing on Biden.

He's gonna play that no problem. He's turning us into potentially World War III, leading us into World War III. That is a very, very, it could be a valid issue that he's bringing up. He's the most corrupt president ever. We don't know what's going to happen. I would have him with McCarthy and them leading the house, the investigation. Are you going to see every day Hunter or somebody's out there being talked about all this

stuff. They're going to have to address that. And then he came back and said, I'm going to come back. We're going to make put America first again. So, you know, if you only watch the state of the union, you're blown away by, you know, you're like, okay, this was a decent speech. If you watch it from Trump's side, you see all the flaws.

If you watch it from Sarah Huckabee's side, you see the flaws. If you watch it from CNN's side, they were ecstatic on how great of a job he did. So, it all depends on who's watching it, right? So, but here's the point now that when we're seeing this taking place with the stated union being given and Trump given what message he just gave.

At what point do you sit there and say, okay, because Trump hasn't yet turned on the throttle on really going campaigning. This isn't Trump campaigning yet With the timing of when the stated union is first week of February, okay? And in an election time we got what right now 22 months 21 months whatever the timeline is When do you see historically where all of a sudden this full throttle Trump's going 100% offensive? When does that happen?

First of all, I think his announcement of candidacy was more of a marker than it was the beginning of a campaign. He was letting everybody in his own party and in the other party know, I'm definitely running. You don't need to speculate about it. Secondarily, while he is raising money and between the time he announced in the end of the filing period, he raised it. Secondarily, while he is raising money and between the time he announced in the end of the filing period, he raised $9.5 million. Now to me, that's a lot of money. People say, oh, he underperformed. Well, he has no overhead because he's not out doing rallies. The rallies, by the way, are a half million dollars a piece, $1.5 million. So, you know, he has a very lean staff.

He is doing events like he did in New Hampshire and South Carolina, which keeps his campaigns, expenses down, because you don't recognize those now you'd be paid for by his reelection campaign. And here's where I think he is making an error, and hopefully he will change his mind. He's been putting out some very good issue-oriented videos. I thought that was a very good video, but he needs to put them on Twitter.

It is a mistake to just continue to post solely at true social. First of all, I love true social, but it is by definition you're talking to your base. It is a great place to talk to people, not all of whom, but most of whom agree with you. But in terms of talking to everybody, your supporters and your opponents, and those in the middle, I don't think Twitter can be beat. He has 87 million followers on Twitter. He has a little over three million followers, I think on true social. I could be a little off on that.

Let's say that a substantial number of the people following him on Twitter are bots. Well, let's say it's 50%, which I don't think it is. Well, that means he has 42 million, I mean, that's still an enormous number of pieces. So I'm hopeful that he will begin posting this content, this video content particularly. He doesn't have to use Twitter, you know,

for his, for his sniping, which he loves to do. Of course. Which he's just kind of part of his political persona. But I do think he needs to occasionally occasionally go back on Twitter Is there is there any is he contractually bind it to troops social? He is not okay is not so you guys think this is like a tactical mover He's just waiting he's biting his time to actually like just hit it like Pat was saying to go full throttle And then it all comes out or he's or he's just like did he still have like a sour taste in his mouth from the way he was treated and banned?

The most predictable thing about Donald Trump is that he's completely unpredictable. So it's not, and it's not, and it's not always easy to understand exactly why he's doing what he's doing, but in all cases, he's doing it with some purpose. I do think he understands that the very first time he goes back to Twitter, that's a huge story. That's an enormous story, and therefore when he goes there, he should go there to say

something of substance. These videos are really quite good, but they're not getting the kind of residence I think they could get if he posted occasionally on Twitter. Can we do what he called it? Can we put a poll and ask how many people today on this live are actually on Truth Social? I'd be curious to know how many people are on Truth Social. If you had to guess, what would you say Pat? For the people in the chat, less than 5% are on Truth Social.

I was going to say less than 5 and I think that's a high number to be on Truth Social. I don't think that many people are on true social. I was in the same. And I think that's a high number to be on true social. I don't think that many people are on true social. But here's the question though. You only get to do your first tweet once, right? You're coming back to it. You only get to do it once. And I believe it's going to end up being the most like tweet in the history of Twitter and the most retweeted tweet

in the history of Twitter until it's like a terrible waste of a first opportunity. If it's like a video, if it's something that's really solid, it'll be record breaking 100, 200, 300 million views is what the video is going to get. I believe that. Do you think knowing him, he's hanging tight to make sure that the first one is not only perfectly timed to maximize the effort, is not only perfectly timed

to maximize the effort, to not just wasted right now, because it's too early to drop Twitter. Well, I'll put it this way. I agree with your analysis that the first time he does it, it will be a mega story. That's like times five rallies, right? Interim, yeah. In terms of coverage. And he does have a good sense of timing.

So yeah, I think he's going to use it both when he has something very important to say and also when there is more focus right now in our party He's the only candidate running field is not has not been has not been filled There's a lot of people Did she formally announced that she announced that she's going to announce? I'm not sure, but she made her intention. Right. No, so I think it'd be fair to counter as a candidate, I guess. But I do think it is an asset that he will use at the right time to go back to another

point you made. I think this is an absolute cave, which is $2 billion more for Ukraine in this speech. Two billion. I mean, it is true that particularly because of US-based coverage of the war, most Americans support Ukraine. Most Americans are opposed to Putin and Russia. But at some point, we have 370,000 homeless veterans in this country. And in the end, I think it'll be up to the Fed as to whether we have a recession or not. It is entirely possible.

Republicans more than all voters recognize the correlation between massive spending and inflation. And inflation is the number one, along with immigration, I think, the number one and number two problem for this administration. So I believe the war, not only am I worried about us kind of stumbling into World War III, but I also think that it's very conceivable that like the Vietnam War, like the Korean War, the war could become very unpopular over time. The longer the war goes, the more unpopular it will become because of the cost. And also the softer our economy is the more the resentment that we are seeming to be just running the printing presses and sending this money to Ukraine. So I do think Trump's greatest single potential opportunity is to run as the peace candidate. And as Eisenhower said, I will end the war

in Korea. Nixon said, I will end the war in Vietnam. Given the Middle Eastern peace deal with Trump got done, which no one thought possible, given the fact that it was Trump who turned off the Russian pipeline and Trump who gave the offensive weapons to the Ukrainians that Obama would not give them. Given Trump's diplomatic success in North Korea, where he at least got the mad band to stop his nuclear weapons to develop the testing, which is now restarted under Joe Biden.

I mean, I think he has credibility as a deal maker, as a negotiator, and I think he appealed to that anti-interventionist streak in America, and particularly the Republican Party in 2016. And I think he will do so again. What are you gonna say, sir? Yeah. So I think just a bit of a big of what Roger was saying in terms of Ukraine, I definitely think that US has passed the line that Putin kind of drew in the sand to begin with supporting Ukraine and specifically through military

equipment through the tanks is that they've been sending and stuff like that. So if Putin really wanted to, I think that he has justified reason on his end to really launch full out further war on that end. But my concern would definitely be more on the, on the opposite side of China versus Russia really starting something that we kind of accidentally stumble into. I brought you at the end of the day, because I'm, as a veteran too, just like Patrick, when we're giving all this money, we're helping, you know, the act to me is everybody where the flag and you're great.

We're sending all these billions. What is the end, what are we in it for? That's an excellent question because we signed a treaty in 1994 between Ronald Reagan and leader Gorbachev, in which we agreed not to push Ukraine into NATO, which means really not to mount offensive Western finance missiles on the ground in Russia. We do have bio weapons labs there.

The administration stumbled and admitted it, then they tried to pull it back. And if you say, well, we're there to support democracy. Zelensky has arrested. Everybody ran against him in the last election. He's outlawed all the other democracy. Zelensky has arrested everybody ran against him in the last election. He's outlawed all the other parties. He closes down newspapers. He closed down TV stations. He closes down radio stations.

He arrests journalists. He just closed down the largest church in the country. So this is not about democracy. And I think we have been provocative now. People watch that and say, oh, there you go. Roger Stone is a putin a apologize to loves boot nes a russafl now i i had family members mode down by russian tanks and booted past in nineteen

fifty six i have no use for putin is a thug i've no use for their for their system uh... but i do this is most certainly not about democracy uh... and uh... i really fear that we could stumble into World War Three. I agree. And it doesn't help when we have,

in my Roger, I was talking about earlier, I was stationed at Mount Storm Air Force base in Montana in regards to the Chinese, the balloon situation. We knew it was traversing from China as of last month on the 28th. We let it fly all the way up to Great Falls, Montana, over at Mount Storm Air Force Base, which is a nuclear missile base

that I was stationed at. No care in the world, apparently they're monitoring and it wasn't looking. And just the fact that we let it come into our airspace, there's no excuse for anything like that unless just saying that China, we still haven't held them accountable for COVID. So whatever now there's a spli-plane,

and it doesn't seem like anybody really, they don't even care. The biggest thing I saw was that they canceled the trip to China, and that was their response of, okay, we're gonna push back on you, we're not gonna show up on your trip. I don't think the Chinese cared too much about that. They don't really care. They don't. Not at all.

Really don't think they care. Let me just read the balloon story, and let's kind of hear some of this stuff on there So Chinese spy balloon over central USA will be in US airspace for a few days Pentagon says this is a February third story So it's an older story so defense department spokesperson Brigadier general pat riders that Friday that the Chinese surveillance balloon hovering over the US has moved into central part of country But the client again to specifics no problem. The balloon is currently flying about 60,000 feet above sea level, higher than civilian aircraft. The Biden administration has condemned the presence of a China surveillance aircraft in the US airspace as a violation of US sovereignty.

But nothing happens. Okay. Same day Trump says, shoot down the balloon. Okay. President Trump on Friday called for the US to shoot down the suspected Chinese high altitude surveillance balloon that had been spotted flying over Different states in the recent they shoot down the balloon Trump posted on his true social Office of Naval Intelligence veteran human events senior editor Jack

Bosobic agreed with former president assessment writing you shoot down the balloon and launch bombers from gum Guam That's gonna that's what you do when Homeland is threatened. Stephen Miller, Trump's former senior advisor for policy and White House director of speech writing blamed current President Joe Biden's weakness for the decision to not shoot down the balloon. Okay. So then this continues. US military shoots down Chinese spy balloon over Atlantic Ocean. US military shot it down. While the balloon was off the coast of South Carolina, the balloon was shot down by US military fighter jet on Saturday afternoon senior defense officials said during the Thursday afternoon

briefing that the US government is confident the surveillance balloon is from the people Republic of China. Senior US officials said that the government was considering a plan to shoot the balloon down while it's over the Atlantic where it wouldn't harm any individuals on the ground official added that the US government could potentially recover the balloon. And then there's even comments about the fact that China wasn't happy that we shot that. They got mad. You see that story where why would you shoot down the balloon? Yeah, they said that they might might even take action against us because we shot down their spy balloon over our country.

And we also can't seem to be able to get a straight answer about whether we in some way were able to jam their transfer of information back to China. We don't know the answer to that. Exactly. Did they end up picking up the balloon? They said they were going to try to do that when they shot at that. I like the recovery effort. Yeah.

I mean, I'm pretty sure they did, but what I failed to grasp and understand is, they, well, they monitor everything. It was, it left over an ocean. If you wanted to knock it down, that's where you knock it down, is over that ocean, not the Pacific. Before it started.

So you're basically giving people the green light, come in spine. I don't believe the whole rhetoric of, well, we were monitoring it. They weren't really looking at certain things that we didn't want to. It stopped over, Gray Falls Montana right over a nuclear missile base.

I'm not stupid. I don't think the people are stupid, but the way that they spin it, it's trust us, nothing. We don't want to blow up a balloon because we don't know what's going to fall out of it. We letting it come over, who knows what could have been on it?

Who knows? It could have had a bomb, it could have had anything on it. We letting it come over, who knows what could have been on it? Who knows? It could have had a bomb, it could have had anything on it. We have no idea. China's pushing the envelope because they know, and you mentioned that Roger from the Afghanistan withdrawal, we have no idea what we're doing. Biden, you kind of invited Russia to attack Ukraine when he said, a minor incursion wouldn't be,

we would tolerate that. He basically gave him a green light. And now something like this Nobody respects us when it comes to to to defense and they they don't respect Joe Biden I think it's showing when they when they pull off stunts like this. It's a test. I think I think it's a test I mean, I don't think you can shoot down the balloon In international you know airspace, but as soon as it was over US sovereign territory, we had an obligation to act, and then just the more the days stretched out, and the whole country is like...

Recording, get on their phones. And there's more balloon memes than you've ever seen. Yeah, they took over the egg memes. If you were to give it, because you said it's a test, if you were to give the Biden administration a grade on how they responded to that test. What would that be? It would be an F. It would be F because they waited so long. I mean, I think you have to move immediately on those things. It turns out to be true that there were balloons over US territory during the Trump presidency.

And some in the military didn't tell the president or the sect F because they feared that he would do exactly that. Wow. That's a real problem. I think also especially if you're saying like it's a test, what if they're trying to see what how much they can do was still getting away from it. So if they were to do something finally, then the boundaries already drawn so far out they'd get further head start in a sense before we react because now now it's like, oh, they can go over our airspace, they can do all this, this, this,

this other stuff without Russ really giving a reaction. So then you've kind of drawn the lines there. Yeah, I think, I think the biggest thing is there's two things. Okay. One is you go to place and to measure someone's toughness and to measure someone's, the other idea of Paul would you rather be respected, feared, admired, and then there was another one loved, right? And for whatever reason, respect was number one, 55%. I think feared was number three or something like that

to see those three again, respected, feared, admired, and loved, right? Which by the way, in a life, like a regular person just live in a life, they're probably wanting to be respected, right? Which makes sense. But if you're a world leader, you want to be feared where people don't do anything. You're at a bar. You're sitting with your girl. You have a reputation. Your girl's beautiful. So if a guy totally fears you and respects you, doesn't even talk to your girl

to come and say anything to her, right? If a guy is trying to see maybe you're okay with it, he'll come and be friendly with your girl. But if she comes and says to you, hey, do you modify dance also with your girl? He doesn't think you care if he dances or not. To some people, like, that's not a big deal. Somebody asked to dance also with your girl. What China is doing right now saying, I don't think he's gonna mind. Just put the balloon out there. They're not gonna do anything.

They're gonna take their time. And they're gonna think about it because they don't want to make the wrong decision. So you know the whole thing that in decision is worse than actually making a decision. So this was a sign of in decision. We were afraid of making a decision and then seeing like the other side's going to come after us.

No, you got to call the shots. Can you play the, can you put the Yahoo article I just sent you on top right second one? So Pat, it's Kamala Harris would be China. I mean Kamala Harris is husband kissing. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. That would be exactly what I'm saying. Yeah. No, you're right. So watch it.

So Yahoo story. So go to the top so we can see it's a Yahoo story. So this is a Yahoo story if you can just go up a little bit. Yeah, China is mad at the US for blasting its suspected spy balloon. But a few years ago, state TV bragged its fighter pilots could shoot one down. OK, so again, China's met a 2020 Chinese state TV clip showed off how fighter pilots could shoot down

surveillance balloons. The video shows a pilot tracking and shooting a balloon during an apparent training exercise. China said on Monday that the US shooting down a suspected Chinese balloon was unacceptable. China's upset at the US shot down the balloon. Suspecting shots on the TV comes to go. Got it. The video China's on the got it in the video and alarm bell prompts a fighter pilot to prepare and board a fighter jet and peers to be the Chinese J10, a multi-roll got it, a CCTV never

did the action. Saying that loading missiles powering up, checking the fuel, what is the word right there, the fuse late, and other procedures were all completed quickly. So if you can go a little lower to see who said they were upset about the fact that so do you want to do to supervising command organized judged High surveillance the CCTV the white balloon exploded in the launcher so they're explaining what happened to it So who are these guys to say you're upset? That we shut down your balloon. Yeah, what do you mean you're upset and who gives you the audacity to even say something like that. You can, you know,

we're upset that you shot down the balloon. What makes you think we care? Yeah. What makes you think we care about your opinion, whether we shot it down or not, who's a priority? You know, I think it is our relationship with you or protecting the safety of our citizens. Are you out of your mind when you make a comment like this, but the audacity to even say something like that. They just don't care. That's why. But I don't think they can do that under strong leadership. I absolutely.

I don't think you can't even make a comment like that. You know what happened? You know what would happen within 24 hours? Oh really? No problem. 25% tariffs. Exactly. That's what's gonna happen.

Say that one more time to us because without us, China, when you were not even a top 10 economy in the world, just 50 years ago when your former friend came in struck the deal with those guys back in whatever the 60s was, you wouldn't even exist on what you did. You needed a help of a smaller nation, more powerful economy to help you realize

that capitalism works to be able to compete with everybody else. Now you wanna talk to these guys like this. You America helped these guys turn into what they are today, and now they're flipping and saying, hey, you just respected us. It's an insult.