PBD Podcast - Rudy Giuliani Left In Shock After Dylan Mulvaney's Tampax Sponsorship | Ep. 255 | Part 2

Episode Date: April 8, 2023

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what would you say is the santa's biggest downside right we can all pick apart trump's biggest downside but what would the santa's biggest downside would be i think i don't want to speak for the mayor but i think what you would say is he hasn't done it before in this job is so big that it can eat anybody alive but let's not forget it kind of eight trump alive to and again i voted for him support him he kept fouchy the entire time uh... there's a you know he had ended up fighting and fighting with us the question so what what would you say?

Okay. Here's what I would say. I think the Santas and his camp need to come together at his house, or the office, and sit down and watch the documentary of Roger Ailes, that's called the Viden Conquer and see how a 25, 26 year old Roger Ails helped a Nixon who was a brilliant operator but was not good on camera become a marketer so he can get elected because the ails understood marketing. Nixon did not. Nixon wasn't a marketable product. He was not charming. He was not charismatic. Nixon helped with McConnell.

Nixon helped with Hannity or Riley, all of these guys, not Nixon. I'm sorry, Ails. You need an Ails in your life, right? Everybody needs an Ails in their life. Yeah, it was my first campaign, man. There you go, Roger. And I was his lawyer. How great of a campaign manager was he? It was $40 million deal with Fox, which is one of the reasons Fox hates me, because they only wanted to give him 20 million. So I know Roger was a very close person. But hear me out on what I'm saying. This is the point I'm making so I think I think

First of all man, I'm gonna upset a lot of people the chances of me ever interviewing the census and him coming to our podcast every day Goes lower and lower and lower the more I say what I say he'll come to you and you can ask the question that I say and you can pose a But let me tell you let me tell you one my concern Is here's my call out. It's to the following Who the hell is on his marketing team Why the hell do you come out with his book in February? Knowing you can't launch till July and the book drops out of 100 ranking on Amazon one month later What the hell are you thinking if you know you can't run till July? book drops out of one hundred ranking on amazon one month later

what the hell are you thinking if you know you can't run till july you don't launch a book till june what are you doing on june book in february do it in late may do it in june and it go on a ton of podcasts go on a ton of shows make sure your book is number one you're being too tough on

i'm not that i can be you are no no no no you're being in it let me be the first time candidate the first time candidates make mistakes but no start up i'm not i can be talking no no no no you mean it let me be the first time candidate the first time candidates make mistakes but no start about i'm not calling him out i don't call him out i'm calling his marketing team out my conversation is to the marketing team yeah this is not a call-out to him i think he's a phenomenal candidate i think he's crushed it we're in florida because of him when we were in Dallas and i'm getting ready to go through the process of selling the insurance company my wife and I in the family sat down

and we looked at moving back to Newport Beach, knew some eliminate that that decision like this. We were looking at moving a Greenwich because we're starting a media company and I'm much trying to be in New York to compete with these guys. We're looking at Nashville. I lived in Nashville for a couple years right outside of it. We're looking at Tampa. We're looking at for Lauderdale. We're looking at Miami. We're looking at Manalapan, we're looking at Stain and Dallas, where Dallas was eliminated. Grinich was eliminated because the way that we're handling COVID, Nashville, we

like the water, the beach is not that good in Nashville, we like the beach more. So we decided on Florida because of this antis. So this is not a message I'm giving. It's the criticism to the marketing campaign. I want to talk to one of the biggest churches in town. I'm one named the criticism to the marketing campaign. I want to talk to one of the biggest churches in town I want to name the person They came and we started working with these guys I said with their marketing team and I said can I just talk to your marketing team directly and give me the pressure Permission to call them out and let them be pissed off at me not you. He says go for it

I said you're dealing in a time right now where parents are frightened to send them to public school because their kids are coming home saying, mom, a guy, I got a call on a max seven this week saying a guy was holding one of our guys's hands in a private school in Dallas saying, hey, I like you. I'm gay. This kid is 10 years old, 12 years old, flirting with this other guy. The mom doesn't know how to handle it. She's worried. She's afraid. What does she do about it? So many parents right now are frightened. My word to send their kids. Transgender, well, this kid's transgender.

How about you? Have you thought about having this? Are you sure you're straight? Is it only this? Have you thought about having this? All this confusion that you have, churches should be packed right now. Every church in America should be packed right now.

What the hell are the marketing things that these churches doing? So, my call is not a call out to the pastors. My call is a call out to the marketing team of the Decentis campaign. That's all it is, not Ron. It's the marketing team. Well, actually, I think, first off, I will gladly,

I'm sure you guys have reached out in every possible way, but I will gladly try to get that up the chain. That's just one thing, because you should. His marketing campaign is part of the lobby going to stay away from PVD. No, they won't. But think about it. You wouldn't even watch it. You know you did.

Oh, you said stay away from PVD because you're scared marketing team. Not Ron, you are. They're holding them back. You're known as as fair as possible. So I don't know what's going on there, but putting that aside for a second, your criticism of which is totally legit marketing. You have a very solvable problem, right? What you just laid out there was a very solvable problem.

Terrible timing on the book. You could even sit, you could be the guy to sit down with him and say, hey, this is what the problem is, and I can actually help you solve for that problem. He doesn't trust a lot of people, which he can't blame. That may be, but in essence, I ask you for the biggest criticism,

and your criticism, which I'm not arguing with, is actually very solvable. Like, you can do it. Yes. So so that doesn't seem that deep to not not that deep. It doesn't seem that how do you wrong about it and you only do a couple shows thinking the book is going to sell on its own. Well, I think it was number one New York Times for that long, but that whole thing nonsense. Yeah. That shouldn't be the case with the number one governor in America that had a state that everybody wanted to move to. That should not be the I with the number one governor in america that had a state that everybody wanted to move to that should not be the i read the whole book that should not be the case and if you read the book

you will see how many times he gave credit to trump in the book a lot of people in new york times or somebody wrote an op-ed saying the fact that he never gave a he took shots at trump there was no shots at trump he kept giving credit if it wasn't for the tweet if it wasn't for this if it wasn't for that that book was marketed in the shittiest way possible again i'm okay being to target yeah i'm saying is the marketing team deserves the criticism sure i'll also say this having launched my second book just a couple months before that i mean i fired basically

everyone i worked with book the book industry is so old and broken it's not that's not a problem i'm not saying that's in the screen the book i'm so old and broken it's not but that's not an excuse I'm dealing with Simon and Schuster and Penguin here's what I said to them the other day we have a call if Mario somewhere on here is on here remembers when he was on the call Mario somewhere on here they said well we think this should be the title I said okay cool you want that as a title of any we can hear you want that as a

title yes okay oh we think this should be the title I said can I just pause and ask a question yes if you guys plan on selling the shit out of this picked a title go for it but if you want me to sell the book I want this title and he see everybody's faces this is a pretty heavy weight guy got a lot of respectfully I love this guy matter of exas start of a guy he says well you know what why don't you pick the title I said no, no, shit. I want to pick the title. Because you want me to sell the book. You know, sell a book now with these asking to publish you to sell your book. They're not marketers.

No, they do nothing. So again, marketing team, hmm, change your strategy. You got watched the Roger L's documentary, dividing conquer tonight. Great. It's a solvable problem. Yeah. By the way, he made me watch that documentary. Amazing, amazing documentary be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that.

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I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. If you have a shitty product, what the hell are you marketing? But if you have a great product, I.e. Ron DeSantis, you can clean up the marketing. So say what you want about Trump.

He does not have a marketing problem. The problem is kind of the product. But DeSantis, in my opinion, I think is a great product, but he needs to relook in the market. I think that was a very irresponsible comment about him being a great product. He was probably the best president we've had in 50 years. So when DeSantis can be the best president for four years, I'll agree with you. But DeSantis hasn't been in the White House.

He was not a particularly effective congressman. He was a terrible candidate when he ran the first time for office. And by the way, when you were stepping in the green... Let me finish. You can't separate the product and the marketing. That's bullshit. That's lack of leadership.

I never separated from my team. I'm responsible for my marketing. I'm responsible for my press secretary. I'm responsible for my administration. If I did that, I would have been a lousy mayor. So if you're telling me that you want to do a separation of, well, let's blame the marketing, but not the guy who's in charge, Ron DeSantis, you don't have a leader. You got to follow her, the marketing team is running everything.

Of course, he's responsible for his marketing. He's responsible for everything that happens in the damn campaign. And if he's not, he shouldn't be president. We don't know if he is like that. I think it's more important that we keep Democrats out of the White House than any of these guys. Than to Sanders, then Trump, then Cruz, or I'd be willing to consider somebody else if they had a better chance of saving this country.

RFK? Robert? No, I know RFK for years. He sued me more than anybody else. I love his book, but the rest of them is all for space in Mars somewhere. Do you ever listen to some of the things that he says? I mean, woo! Great guy, but woo! So, no, he can't be president. My God. Wow. That would be scary. But in any event, we, Rodgerail's right now is an ephemeral something. It's a year and a half before the election. He's not really campaigned as you pointed out.

That's his responsibility, not as marketing team, unless his marketing team is running things. Right? If I don't like, I run my campaign. Roger Ailes of my campaign manager. I still ran my campaign. When something went wrong, I didn't blame it on Roger Ailes. I don't think that's Ron's personality, though.

I see Ron as a leader. I see Ron as an executive. I see Ron as somebody like Ron. I see Ron as a person who was a great project manager and I think you can I think is a such a leader why the hell did he sort of change his position on Ukraine He's got three different positions on Ukraine, but that part Rudy. I would say so He becomes an isolation as to suck up to Tucker Carlson and then he becomes a Reagan Republican, so you're calling them a flip flopper is what you call I'm saying. It's a dangerous tendency

Don't go you know don't you know politics is not a game of love at first sight You don't get to know somebody. He could be a great candidate. He may not be you don't know that He shows some very good tendencies and he shows some very big weaknesses that's flipping around on you crain was very dangerous so flip flops what you're saying that's the word one time you don't have an immigrant but i think you know i like she is like let's see if that uh... him yeah or let's see that if that was a mistake i'm willing to say he's a new time candidate

uh... we don't know we do not know how he's a new time candidate. We don't know. We do not know how he's gonna bear up under running for governor of Florida and running for president and I stage. It's like running for school president and then running for major office. I don't think there's any dispute there.

I wouldn't disagree with you there, but I would also tell you. I've seen people who have great candidates statewide who totally fall apart as presidential candidates. And I'm not going to say he will, but I'd be careful betting the whole thing on him because he's shown some tendencies, some weaknesses. If they are really weaknesses,

that he won't be there at the end. As many front runners were not there at the end. So I'm not even sure he'll eventually be Trump's major opposition. I can tell you Trump will be there at the end. He owns 40% of the party. You also gotta be careful how bad you go after him because then you won't be able to win.

You've gotta run as a candidate running against it. Yeah, it's great to bring new people in. Bit of a fantasy also. The only person that's been able to bring a lot of new, only two people have brought a lot of new people into politics since Reagan. Obama and Trump won the first time with new people. So we got a few people here. So I don't know if that... Who was the first clapper? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha When I ran for office, which is ages ago, you won by going to the middle. There were liberals, the conservatives, and then there was the middle. And I want being mayor in New York by going to the middle.

I had to win in a democratic state. I don't know if you can win that way anymore. I don't know if there is enough of a middle. I'm not sure. You might be able to. But I'm not sure that going to the middle, you lose your base. And here's what I always advise Trump. I don't care what CNN says about you.

I don't care what MSNBC says about you. I don't care what the liberal say about you is not going to hurt you. When I start seeing your base turn, then we start to worry. Because you can't exist in politics without a solid base any longer. That's what Biden has for secret reasons and that's what Trump has. And that's why they may be the two most dangerous candidates. You may only be able to win now by appealing to your base and bringing them out more than the other guys or just plain cheating.

That's another way to win. Yeah, and don't discount that. Mr. Mayor, we've asked this question repeatedly, but I would love to get your take on this. But is there any chance that you see if Trump gets the nominee him pinning Governor DeSantis as his running mate? He can't they're both in the same state one of them have to move out of Florida you uh... uh... a president and vice president can't run if they're residents of the same state paid paid seven ninety three you didn't read that

i don't know if the six hundred he's got six hundred and i'll do better but i don't know i don't know that either one of them would be the right vice president but if you could if you like let's say you really wanted him and Trump redom asiled to New York, let's just say it would depend, it would depend a little on, on the primary. And how, how strong, Kamala Harris started the Democratic primary looking invincible, right? She beat the living daylights out of Biden

in the first debate. By the second debate, Tulsi Gabbard had totally ripped her apart and proved that she's one of the silliest people ever in American politics So what do you think Dave? Well, it depends on how good a candidate is well It's interesting because if I'm getting this right the two biggest criticisms of DeSantis seem to be that he had a shoddy book launch Which okay, let's say that's that's kind of right which again got to number one on New York Times best seller as much bullshit as that thing is. You can tell that they left my last book off the list. But so he, okay, he screwed up a book launch, let's say. And let's just say everyone in this room agrees with that.

And that he hasn't been president before. Well, most presidents haven't been president before. And I don't know that you can blame the guy for a book launch. So I haven't heard any real criticism of the guy right it's about the ukraine for the other side are that that i would count as a criticism of a bit of a flip of flipping on a very important subject that you should be prepared for if you are present presidential candidate not as bad as uh... ted kennedy uh... not knowing why he's running for

president i mean that was uh... was your point of the clashing well the right is nothing there's nothing here i could feel it in the room there's there's not much no one's going to he's got this policy that really screwed us he's wrong on the schools he's wrong on the sd you're running in the game against a it runs against a guy who actually did it already but you're running against the guy you're you're you're gambling a teeny bit let's say you're gambling a teeny bit

when you don't have to gamble at all you you know that trump will straighten out the economy but but Trump president what lost the last election i don't think he lost the last election but okay so we go yeah we go Rudy I'm not I will go further that he did a few people that knows he didn't lose the last election if you want to come to my house and go into my study I'll show you a thousand affidavits to prove it Rudy. There'll be two thousand people in front of your house tomorrow I can't say he's joking folks. I'm not joking. He's joking. They're gonna Google your address

Rudy open the door Rudy He did not lose the No, Rudy! He did not lose the leg. He's a right-hound, because he's a dirty, right? He won't eat the, the, the, the, the, the, want to conquer the morning when I left the White House on, on, on election night into the next day. He was ahead in Pennsylvania by 750,000 votes.

It is statistically impossible for him to have lost Pennsylvania. Now, you got, watch the movie, movie, 2000 Mules, if you want. You can watch three or four other movies. You could watch the old documentary about the machines that were used that were tested before the election and the Democrats objected to them.

Dominion, right? Isn't there a lawsuit right now still pending with Dominion? Yes. And what's the number they're going after is it facts one point six billion or whatever whatever the number you're hearing about yeah that's a that's a that's a that's being done uh to try to frighten people into going after them that's not that's not a that actually it's a great tactic by his lawyers. You can't do a prior restraint under American law.

You can't go in and stop somebody from speaking. But you can intimidate them into not speaking. And that's what that lawsuit is all about. It has made even stations like Fox and Newsmax, like, we're not going to mention dominion. We're not going to mention dominion, we're not going to mention dominion. Brilliant strategy by the lawyer, on ethical as hell, but a brilliant strategy by the lawyers. We're not going to do it. But I'm telling you, he did not lose the last election.

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the positions he has as governor. But nationally, but I'll give you the criticism. I'll give you the criticism they get. Here's the criticism though. The criticism is if the campaign is they cheated, believe it or not, hang on a second. Let me just give you my point of view. Why I think that's a bad approach, or even to even talk about it.

Why? Let me give you my perspective. You can push back all you want. When you say something like that, you know what it does. Here's the bullshit conversation I hear that's very annoying. You know what the conversation is? Well, why vote anyways? They're gonna cheat.

Why would I vote? The more you say that, that's not a good strategy in my opinion. And the more you don't say it, you suppress. No, no. No, no, no. They continue to do it. No, no, no. You're in order to solve a problem, you have to face it.

If you suppress, if you accept their unbelievable distortion of our system by cheating in an election, you might as well give up this question. You can say that all you want. Nobody's disagreeing with you and sitting there saying that's not like weaponizing or doing all this stuff that they're doing, fine fine they're doing it. You still have to beat them.

Of course you still have to be. I didn't say we shouldn't beat them. What I'm telling you is I'm not going to go around and say to people something that I know is untrue. You can't say they're going to cheat and then say, well go out and vote because when you say they're gonna cheat and you gotta say, listen guys, we don't know what's gonna happen.

Let's assume the worst. Here's what's important. Get everybody to go. Your mom, your dad, your, your, your, your, your, your auntie. Get everybody to show up. We don't know if it's gonna happen. My product, when you're competing

as in the, in the free marketplace, you know, my guys will have a room and they'll say, well, Patrick, let me tell you, that office, they do this and they refinancing cash out and put money and variable annuities and put that we can't beat those guys. I'm like, dude, don't even bring that up. I can't say you can't beat them. What? I said, they cheated in the last election. I didn't say you can't beat them. But it's very, very different to cheat in marketing and to fix an election in a democratic country. I mean, that's a massive deal. So, okay.

And if you let people do it, if you stay quiet about it, it becomes the norm. You've got to raise it. You've got to urge your people to work harder. You've got to urge your people to get up off their back sides and vote. You've got to get Republicans to change their pattern of voting just on election day and in states that have this, you know, talk about that. Two years of voting. Yes, you've got to get them to vote. Talk about that.

Okay, so then talk about, okay, for example, so approach, okay, approach. You ever see guys like, we're watching, who was fighting, Usman was fighting who, when he lost the first time, who was Usman fighting, when, uh, uh,'re watching who was fighting Usman was fighting who when he lost the first time who was Usman fighting when Who was it? Edward's remember the first fight like oh this thing's over with we're sitting in the house we're watching this this fight is over with Minute 10 seconds left. What does Usman do? Who saw that fight? He kept backing up backing up backing up boom kick comes like How to help that just happen meaning a strategy that worked for Trump to win, you can't go away from that strategy. His strategy was policies.

We're gonna make America great again. We're gonna build a border. We're gonna do that. That's what he just did on his speech. I agree the speech, but if the strategy is gonna be, you know, let us say it's unfair. Let the people say it's unfair what they're doing. Let everybody else say it's unfair what they're doing. Let us be the flag here. I don't think that can come out to say, well, you know, they did this to me and they did that to me. I don't know if that's how you want the first time. I think the Democrat strategy has worked on you,

which is to intimidate us into raising the fact that they cheated in the last election well over fifty five percent of the american people maybe up to sixty percent believe that they cheated in the last election i think a hundred percent people be believe cheating so so uh... you know i think i was believe there's a lot of the single time in every election i don't think it's fifty five percent i think it's a hundred percent i didn't say cheating in every election i said cheating in that election to win.

There's no reason not to mention it. What other reason would somebody cheat? You cheat to win. I think it's not every single time. You don't always win when you cheat. You do. But you don't win. But it doesn't mean that it's not a tactic that's being used, like just started two years ago.

What is a tactic that you have to end? You can't tolerate that type. I would say what is he done to end it? Let's say we all every single single, forget the Sanctus. Let's say the Sanctus is like, I'm just gonna move to the Everglades, that's it, I'm out. So now Trump is the nominee for sure, and virtually everyone in this room

is willing to support the guy. What has he done in Pennsylvania? What has he done in Arizona? What has he done in these swing states to fix any of that? Because otherwise, it will be election night, 2024, and he'll be leading in those last seven states, just like last time, I was on air with the daily wire guys that night on election night.

I left early because it was so obvious that Trump was gonna win and I wanted to get home. So they will do the same damn thing because nobody's done anything. What has anyone done in Pennsylvania or or I watch two thousand vehicles I liked in a chic like all right what's gonna stop this again what what's happening here is what will stop it again and there's been some progress made not complete so Georgia Wisconsin even with the new Supreme Court the

Republicans won every other race in Wisconsin. That was a function of the abortion issue. With the Republican landslide in Wisconsin, and the Republican justice lost, and the Democratic justice won, so they got a liberal court, and that became the news. Actually, Wisconsin was a big Republican landslide. They got a super majority in both houses of the legislature.

Wisconsin passed a law, so you can't do, you can't do in this election what you did in the last election, which is a massive number of mail-in ballots. They restricted significantly mail-in ballots. Georgia passed a law that will seriously restrict the ability to do that. Those are two states where you'll probably get an honest count this time. Pennsylvania, you couldn't pass the law because the Democrats control both houses of the legislature and you had a crooked governor, you have another crooked governor, and he was part of the cheating in the first place. So Pennsylvania, you're going to have to do volunteers, you're going to have to do voter

integrity efforts. The first election that I ran for mayor, I lost by half a percent, and I had well over 50,000 questionable votes. I lost by 30,000. And I decided not to contest it. I was young, I was a new candidate, as a first Republican to get 48% since the fear of a little aguardia in the city that Abraham Lincoln lost

twice. He gave you an idea how democratic it is. And everyone said, well, this is almost like a victory. It's nice for them to say that when you lose, but you can have a great future in politics, getting up to 48% and I lost to the first black mayor of New York. If I had contested that election,

my political career be over. I honestly believe they cheated. I mean, a different kind of cheating, they would pay people to vote 10 times. And that's why you keep the dead people on the voting list. You keep them there because the party operative in that district has all their names. And then you pay people, Philadelphia is famous for this.

You pay people to vote 10, 12 times that day using dead people and people that moved out. And they don't allow you to purge the voting list. You go before a Democratic court and the judge doesn't allow you to do that. That can happen again in Pennsylvania unless we triple the number of volunteers that we have and we do very, very strong voter integrity. So the second time I ran, I invested a million dollars in a voter integrity effort and my campaign inspectors were correction offices and firefighters because they're scared of correction offices and firefighters and they're tough

guys and you're not going to screw around on them. And when the bus would show up with the people voting the third and the fourth time, they'd see the two firefighters outside, some of them had their pitchforks with them, you know, and that bus would turn around. People who ran it for me was the president, president of the Yankees, and a guy who's now in the United States Congress. I got two really tough, brilliant people to run the effort for me, and they say we still gave away

about 20,000 votes, but we won by 60. But they still cheated in that election. It's impossible for Democrats in a big city not to cheat, even if they're going to win for sure or lose for sure. So we partially solved the problem, we partially didn't. And what I'm telling you applies to any Republican Not just Trump not just to Santa's. This is something Trump's gonna have to do if he gets the nomination It's something to Santa's is gonna have to do if he gets the nomination And he's gonna have to hope That because they did it last time and because it gets raised a lot. It's gonna it's gonna stop some of it It's gonna scare a few people. Maybe yes, maybe

no. But you got to have an energized group of volunteers who go to the polls, stay at the polls, insist on seeing the identifications of every voter. We didn't have that in 2020. Partially a function of not realizing they were going to cheat that much or not accepting it and partially a function of the pandemic. Mr. Mayor, can I ask you a question? This is probably the one question I wanted to ask you. So this is a question on your legacy, if you don't mind. Let's stay on this.

No, no, no, I want to wrap this up. Well, yeah, this is regarding this. You're not going to go to like, what are the seven keys to success in writing a book or Please if he has seven I'll take but I'm just gonna go back and I'm gonna go for it Here we go. I'm gonna go back to 2001 Everyone knows what happened 9 11 You were America's mayor. I was a senior in college. We all remember everything that you're saying on this topic.

Yes, I'm staying on this topic, sir. If he doesn't, I'm throwing this pass. Yes. Okay. You were America's mayor. You were beloved beyond, okay? It wasn't a democratic thing, Republican thing. 20 years later, because everything you're saying now,

whether you're right or wrong, election denialism, cheaters, crooks, all that, everything you're saying, some may say that your legacy has been tarnished. That's what people say. But a lot of it is because of, I'll catch up then, a lot may say it's because of the election denialism. Is this a hill you're willing to die on? Do you care that much about this? That it may or may not ruin your legacy? All I care about is if I can be honest with myself. I don't give a goddamn what my legacy.

I know. When I told you the election was stolen, I know it was stolen. I don't just think it was, I investigated it. I've got the documents, I've got the proof in the seven key states. I can tell you by how much he probably won each state. And yeah, I'll die with it. Why hasn't it been proven? Because, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

It's not been proven because nobody will allow you to be the one who will be the one who will be the one who will be the one who will be the one who will be the one who will be the, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no and witness, have to Republican party ran away because you're a bunch of cowards and wouldn't stand up to the press that was beating the living daylights out of them. And most people don't want to get disbarred like I was. Most of the people don't want to be driven into bankruptcy, which they try to do. And most people can attacked for it and they're cowards and they back down. And I never cared about my, I don't really give a damn about my life. Can I say something? I know what I did. Mayor, let me say something. And I know what I'm doing and in a different world, in a different world. Yeah. In a different world. You want to throw the pattern? I'm going to throw the pen at everybody at the

point from this. By the way, if the audience was Armenian, they would throw a chew station. They're sandblast. So, but let me let me say this part. Okay, I got four kids. So my kid comes and he loses and he says the other team cheated. Okay, and I say, you're right. They did cheat. Okay, as a parent if I take that angle, they did cheat. That kid is gonna use that as an alibi for the rest of his life. I'm sorry. I have a hard time. Totally different thing. But with no number Rudy, let me make my argument. That doesn't seem to you.

No, no, no. Let me make my argument to you. Not the destruction of a republic. Let me make my argument to you and tear it apart. Say whatever you want. Let me tear it apart before you make my argument to you. Let me make my argument to you and tear it apart. Say whatever you want. Let me tear it apart and let me just make my argument to you. Let me make my argument to you. Do whatever you want to do with it. Do whatever you want to do with it. Let me make my argument to you, sir.

Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do.

Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do whatever you want to do. Do'll give you a perspective. I see you can give me a novel argument. Let me give you a perspective.

How far you just repeated the Democrat bullshit? Let me give you a perspective. By the way, that's totally fine. I'm a big boy. I can take it. FYI, you lost. You lost. You ever seen a movie Tropic Thunder?

We lost. We lost. I don't know if you've seen it. You don't look like a Tropic Thunder thunder, but don't worry about it. So watch this. OK, football, sports. So you're talking about you got barred. OK, you lost your license.

No, I didn't. I just spend it. Suspended, fine. Suspended is what you got. Which by the way, a lot of, you know, there's a lot of different, that is a history of a lot of different people that I lost their licenses. Yours is using abuse.

They took advantage of what they're doing, which is not cool. What they did to you. So I'm on that page, which what using abuse. They took advantage of what they're doing, which is not cool, what they did to you. So I'm on that page, which what happened there. But in sports. So who's the quarterback with the Baltimore Ravens? What's the guy's name? No, no, no, who's the guy from Arizona? The guy from Arizona that came out.

What's the guys from Arizona? Kalamurri, right? And he gets hurt. He comes back. RG3 says, don't come back. If I was you, I would stay out. He comes back. He gets hurt.

He's out. Boom. They don't go to the playoffs. Nothing's gonna happen without that guy, okay? RG3 comes back. Even though he should have stayed out the season. He comes back. Career.

And then probably cost him a couple hundred million dollars. Okay, it was a great quarterback. Okay. Mayor, you being a great quarterback. Okay Mayor You being injured is hurting the camp because they needed a fighter like you So we lost a player that was a fighter that can be competing today in the marketplace So for me what I'm saying is it's very easy for us to play this game while we're getting hurt and losing Versus sitting there and figuring out a different kind of strategy to beat because we can give all the

motivational speeches and sound right and people can clap and it can sound very good and exciting and we can lose 2024 again or we can take a different approach to say look guys whether you believe it happened or not I think it did let's just say whether you believe it happened or not fine this is where I'm at this is my position however we can't sit here and go back and use, use an asterisk cheated and they will. But I think, but I think we are a little bit used to, use an asterisk came back and even after cheating, they still want again. But you're, you're, you're, you're misdescribing what I said. I have not said that should be our

strategy to get elected. I'm not stupid. You're not stupid. I said it is something that we have to affirm and be honest about and open about so we change it. We can't buy into the Democrat bullshit, which is it didn't happen. So they can do it again. I don't think people are buying it to that. I don't think people are buying it to that. And the only way you can show that

it's gonna it's gonna remain on the agenda is by standing up to it you don't have to run it would be ridiculous to run on it you should run on on what i think we need to stop talking about it but that is not talking about it and running on it are two that two different things if you stop talking about it you've accomplished with the democrats want so you know what it says toor you. So you know what? Restrict your free speech to not allow you to say what you think is important. You look like a guy that you like good memes.

You like a good meme game? I don't even know what you're talking about. I saw meme the other day. You know what I'm, can anybody tell them what a meme is? What's a meme? What's a meme? It's like one of these pictures they post and then they, you know, it's funny day, okay? You know what I'm, can anybody tell them what I mean? What's a meme? Meme is what? It's like one of these pictures they post and then they, you know, it's funny cartoon.

Funny cartoon, but they post these memes. Anyways, so I saw meme the other day. You know what it said? I loved it. It says, you should have drained the swamp when you had the chance to and you didn't. He didn't drain the swamp. There was a part of the campaign that we voted for

was to eliminate those games and it didn't happen. Now you may say, well, they got in his way and they did this and they did that fine, no problem. We voted for Dr. Swamp and those guys are still there. And if you're going to go and run a new company and there's a bunch of schmucks running a company that are running the old model, fire them and replace them. Who says he's not going to do that? Why wouldn't he be the best person to do it? Because he knows it better than anybody else knows.

He's motivated to do it because he realizes what actually happened to America and to play the game of pretend is a terrible, terrible mistake. Well, the other option. And to play the game of having them dictate what you say and what you don't say, eventually, it gets us where we are today. A country where free speech is restricted more than in a lot of totalitarian governments. That would be a terrible thing if we don't insist

on maintaining what we know. We shouldn't run on it. We should run on how we can fix the economy, or to say that it's going to fix the economy, or to somebody else. We agree. How we can bring peace, how we can bring out, we had a much more peaceful world when we had a Republican in office, how, how in fact, we had trade agreements that were much more favorable. Kim Jong-un wasn't fighting missiles over Japan. China was somewhat a lot more contained.

And Russia didn't take Ukraine while we had a Republican in the White House. And we can go back to that. That's what we should run on. Nobody wants to run on the election with stolen. But if you ask me if it was, I'm going gonna tell you it was straight out, the honest truth. We don't do that, then we lose something that Trump did for us. He made us value a candidate who can be honest with us, who can tell us the truth.

One thing about Trump was there was never a hidden agenda. He was maybe too open. But boy, we need that. We don't need a political game player. The last thing in the world this country needs is a political game player who are in too much trouble. We've already become a socialist country. We don't have to stop us from being a socialist country. We don't have to prevent the change in our way of life. It's happened. We have to take it back. We're not taking it back by playing, sorry, Patrick,

marketing games. We've got to do it for real. And we need a real person as a candidate, not a creation of Madison Avenue. That's great. Say that to any major organization who's been an incredible marketer including forty-five who is a master master marketer Dave well perhaps we should all support a guy who

could become a transcendent Reagan like candidate who's younger who is an incredibly ultra competent executive who none of us can find any who none of us who seemingly are worst flaw with him is that he had a slightly botched book campaign that got to number one on the New York Times. Maybe we actually overwhelm the system. I want to tell them I get a 10% more people that I think. Okay, can we transition into something a little bit more important like getting you guys to be sponsored by Nike or Bud Light or some of the other things?

Can we can we put this out there, please? I want to help you get sponsored by Nike. There's a strategy on how, I don't know if you can be following the story or not. You want to hear this? No, no, no, it's actually, by the way, if you did it, how many guys think he followed the strategy? The mayor could be sponsored by Nike, yes or no? Before we show the story, some of you guys know what I'm talking about.

Let's put the story up here. Listen, I'm going to give you a strategy. You don you talking about? Listen, I'm gonna give you a strategy. You don't have to use it. I'm just telling you, there is a playbook on how to do it. There's this portion. I wanna hear it. Let's talk about it. So if you wanna put the picture up,

right now I would turn this. Trans women and new Bud Light partner, Dylan Mulvaney. Now paid by Nike to model sports bras, okay? On top of that, by the way, by the way. Not sports sports bras, okay? On top of that, by the way, by the way, not only sports bras, but light, did you guys see the but light video going viral and all this stuff? Did you guys see him dancing with the whole,

you know, the Nike sports bra stuff? And then you got Kate's bait, you got ultra beauty, you got a crest toothpaste, and according to Newsweek, which we may be wrong, but according to Newsweek, which we may be wrong, but according to Newsweek, if you can pull this story up according to Newsweek, which this one, this is not Babylon B, this is not onion, according to Newsweek, he's about to be sponsored by Tampex. And apparently based on this Mulaney guy guy according to some of the articles you read

about which is kind of deeply concerning he's not fully committed he's not a true believer because he still has a dangling which which kind of makes it a little bit complicated because he's not fully gone there okay do you realize that every single day on my show and my team is sitting right there, I have to live on air, say the same thing. Can you guys Google it, does she have a dick? And the fact that I just said that in front of Rudy Giuliani. I didn't know what it was before this.

I lived in New York City during 9-11, like this guy is a true hero and I apologize for even doing that. I don't know what a meme is, but I know what a dick is. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Thank you You let this descend to this You thought you were gonna lighten the mood a little bit there fat Pat this you realize you realize this is where you were supposed to pull out a big machete from under The desk and say which one of you from under the desk and say, which one of you wants to be? I just think both of you. What do you say that I don't ever show?

Why do you say that I don't ever show? Every news story. Every news story these days is about a former man now dressed as a woman, and we're always trying to figure out have they gone the full way. So for example, Rachel Levine, who it was a dude, Dick Levine, which is hilarious. Rachel Levine was Dick Levine.

You know that? Yeah. His name was Dick. I will talk to you. His name was Dick. He, guys, correct me wrong. He still has a dick. Yeah.

He still has a dick. Yeah. How do we know that? How do we know? How do we know the internet? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Don't put the picture on.

No, so, but every day there is another one of these ridiculous stories where one of these guys dressing as a girl. And then, so it always, to me, it's like if you're gonna actually, you know, Caitlin Jenner went all the way, supposedly. Caitlin Jenner, no Wang. Really?

Yeah. Wow. That's all I have to say. Good for her. I'm starting to feel, I'm starting to feel pain. Yeah, so the fact that this keeps happening over and over. By the way, you know, it's crazy, as much as obviously we're joking about this, there's a part of this that's funny and we're having a lot, you know, enjoying this part.

There's a part of it that parents are sitting there saying, what the hell are we doing? Like, how the hell is this argument even creating momentum where it's being defended by the media and how dare you say such a thing about them? why shouldn't they have the rights and all this other stuff? And you're, I saw a meme the other day, okay, I know you're, again, going back to memes. Can you just show him a meme so we can please? Yeah, I'll show me a dick, I know. Yeah, yeah. You know what I want you to do?

Rob, do me a favor and go to P.B.D. podcast Twitter account. You are. So if we didn't know you were comedian, Mayor Giuliani today brought out the comedy side. So go to P.B.D. podcast Twitter account and I'm going to text this to you. If you go on Twitter, go to P.B.D. podcast. I'll text this to you and go find this wonderful meme. It's not that one. Keep going over there. It's not that one. Keep going. It's the one that says, can you drive a car? Can you do this? It's a day ago. If you can It's the one that says, can you drive a car? Can you do this? It's a day ago. If you can find that, I just texted it to you. There you go. Watch this one here. Okay.

Can you drive a car? No. Can you pick your bedtime? No. Can you drink a beer? No. Can you vote? No. Can you cut off sex organs and take hormones? Yes. Oh my god. and take hormones, yes. Oh my God. I mean, this is common sense stuff. As much as we're having fun with this Mulvaney, I have a hard time saying this first thing because my son is his name. It's a wonderful name.

It's kind of confusing me a little bit. So you hear him sitting down with Drew Barrymore, and she gets on her knees, which is kind of like a little weird situation there but parents are worried it's concerning k did you for a guy like it did you ever think we're gonna get to point like this where people who kept their dangling or going out to promoting about the fact that they're on the other side

no i i i i didn't there was a candidate for governor of uh... north carolina oh about ten twelve years ago this goes way back, McCraury. It's a great governor, 60% approval rating, running for reelection. And the issue came up about bathrooms. You know, the debate was started in North Carolina

about what bathrooms he go into. And he was, and is a good friend of mine. And I said, that's easy. You just do it based on biology. Well, he took that position. He lost by 10% in North Carolina. I mean, and that was the beginning of, what the hell's going wrong?

And what's going on? What is, no, I don't completely, I have to admit, I do not completely understand what is going on. It seems to me, it's obvious, there's a man and a woman. We can figure out who's a man and who's a woman and Why we're going through all this I? Don't know if it's a site a mass psychosis or it's a deliberate plot to undermine us Maybe it's both you know what politician actually had the best answer on this

It's Donald Trump before he was even a politician when he got asked about this because you're right This happened in North Carolina and then the NBA was gonna pull out of all star game and this whole thing And they asked Trump when he was still just celebrity apprentice Trump They said what do you think about these trans bathrooms? He goes I'm a builder. I build hotels. You tell me I can build one bathroom I'm gonna save on construction Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe driving because that's the white guy, it's a guy, the G, the L's sitting shotgun, right? And everyone loves the L's, but except for the G's, they're kind of like, I wouldn't wear that, whatever. And then you have the bees, you follow me here, Rudy? You need to get the bee and the bees in the back just basically like, I'll fuck anyone in this car, I don't care. Right? And then you got the T.

And the T is kind of like making the whole ride go way longer than it should have taken for the Gs, the Bs, the Ls, because the T is not anything like a G or an L or a B, it's completely different. And there's all different parts going on different ways. So as a G, you're not anything close to T. Well, first off, I'm not anything close to T. Well, first off, I'm not. We just do like 20% of the album.

I'm only gay starting at 10 p.m. What time is it? No. No. It's 9.30. Rudy immediately checked his watch. We'll see about that. That.

That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. Look, I did a gay wedding, I mean, you know. You lived with two gay guys, didn't you?

I did, I did, absolutely. That's one more gay guy than I am. That's one more girl. It's going to be confession time. And they are wonderful parents. They're still married and they're wonderful parents. But what do you think about what's happened. I signed the first domestic partnership bill in 1994.

I've never, I've always seen it as a question of human rights. And I guess I'm, you know, to a large extent a libertarian, except I realized the need for laws because we got some really evil and dangerous people. By the way, what people live in let live. If Mayor would have ran in 2016 on his policies that he had when he had ran for president, he's not a mayor. He would be a president today, just so everybody knows. The things you ran on 20 years ago, I may get the dates wrong, whatever the date was, when you ran as president, everybody everybody thought you were gonna win some of the stuff was

fifteen years ahead of your time you had some libertarian side of america wasn't ready for it five years ago you'd be a president in america if you would have those policies the key in politics this is why i said you should have i'd as forty two this needs to run out i can't i mean i'd like to disagree with that because I am committed to Trump, but I agree with you. There may not be another time. You think, well, okay, he's a great governor.

He'll continue to be a great governor. I imagine that's true. I can't see why he would stop being a great governor if he doesn't get nominated. But there may be somebody else to come to law. That's the even more impressive or the flavor of the day or the issues may change. This is the time where well for a while he was number one. Now he's number two. If you're number one two or three, that's your time to run for president. And we can think of a lot of people who missed their time. I could think of one, but me. But no, I think it Nelson Rockefeller, who could have been president, if he ran it,

just the right time. I kind of think that Trump would never be president if he didn't run in 2016. That was his time, because they had alienated people. I mean, I went to New Palestine, they're one that terrible thing happened there, because I saw them as representative of our people, the people that voted for Trump,

the people that voted Republican in 16, the people who have been not taken seriously, the people who have been rejected, the people who are called deplorable. I actually saw a little pity, Buddha jug, oh man. He actually showed up because I went there and because Trump went there.

And we watched him, my colleague Ted and I, we watched him, the mayor who asked me to come and the police chief, let him wait for 45 minutes outside and continue the conversation with me about the most irrelevant things. I was there to advise them on how to deal with the crisis because they wanted to just screw them, you know, give them a hard time. Well when you want to see them outside, he put himself in a place that he didn't have

to be near any of these people, these dirty people, these dirty, hardworking people who mostly are descendants of coal miners. And they're not dressed properly and they're not. And those are the people who put Trump in office, the people who rejected people. So it may be that that isn't there right now or it may be there, but he ran it exactly the right time. And I think DeSantis is going to run. And I think he probably feels this is it. I mean, can we wrap up with one last topic here before we finish it off. Some may take that as an endorsement for DeSantis.

That was a wonderful position you took right there, Mayor Giuliani. It's a beautiful, and it's a beautiful thing. It's a political analysis. It's a beautiful thing right there, Mayor Giuliani. It's a beautiful and merciful. It's a beautiful thing right there. Okay, so let's go through this. Let me give some stats. This last part here, this is specifically directed to Mayor Eric Adams. This is directed to London Breed, San Francisco Mayor. This is directed to Mayor Brandon Johnson,

Shaitown, Chicago, we're going to give you some statistics and there's a case study of a guy here who was able to clean up the streets of New York. Let me read some of these studies. Between 1993 and 2001, New York City experienced a 66% decline in murders according to FBI. Okay. During that time, you were there. During the same period, there was a 72% decline in shootings. New York City experienced a 56% decline in FBI crime index, 93 to 2001, outpacing 16% decline in national crime index. In addition to the decline in murders, New York saw a 45.7% decline in rape,

67% decline in robberies, 39.6% decline in aggravated assault, 68% decline in burglary, 43% decline in larceny, 73.3% decline in motor vehicle theft. Again, this is according to FBI. In 1993, there was 11,545 major crimes per week by 2001, that number dropped to five thousand seventy two over a seven year period mayor juliani

added twelve thousand police officers in new york city you took it up to forty thousand you're looking at some of the stats today on what's going on just yesterday or two days ago the seal CEO of cash app who is in San Francisco, he's living in Miami, he escaped San Francisco, you were talking about earlier, he lives in Miami, he's in San Francisco, he gets stabbed to death, okay. Everybody's coming out saying, well here's what we're going to be doing. You saw San Francisco said the mayor, you know, we are the prioritizing public safety, you know, in San Francisco after cash app creators fatal stabbing, you know how

You know the mayor breed extremely sympathy to the family and friends of cash out creative Bob Lee Following his fatal stabbing calling it a horrible tragedy tech leaders including Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk offered condolences on Social media with must calling for stronger action from the city to incarcerate repeat violence offenders, lease-friendly, jeke shields, revealed that Lee had just moved out of San Francisco to Miami because he felt the city was deteriorating. While San Francisco violent crime rate is relatively low compared to other larger cities, again this is an insider story. This is an insider story. While San Francisco going through that and then boom the different numbers that they're gonna have you know what's going on

with San Francisco so if these guys are watching right now if they're watching right now how would you today if you are the mayor of San Francisco if you're the mayor of Chicago you're the mayor of New York how are you cleaning up the streets in those cities well I mean it's a little bit of a strange question because they're political philosophy, they're political temperament, they're so totally inconsistent with running a safe city. I mean, every one of their policies makes a city more dangerous. And their allegiance is to the Democrat Party and its left-wing philosophy, not to the people.

I know Adams the best. He works for me for eight years as a policeman. I don't remember an arrest that he made. And he says the right things. People voted for him in New York because they thought he was among the Democrats, one who emphasized war and order. He says all the right things. we should change our bail laws.

Of course, we shouldn't let people out. Just yesterday, they let out a person, they let out a man who killed his son. They let him out on bail. No bail, they just let him out. The guy's walking around the streets a day after he killed his son, or two days after he killed his son. That's insane.

That isn't just arguable. It's just insane. It's very much a part of the national Democrat approach to crime. The leader of our state legislatures said the other day, you're never going to reduce crime by incarcerating people. That's actually the only way to reduce crime, particularly with career criminals. So they would have to change their, first of all, they have to change their party affiliation.

And every time Adam says something, he doesn't go through with it because they throw him out of the Democrat party if he did. He backs off. So this is, and this is every city that has heavy crime. It's a Democrat mayor. Very often it's a Soros DA. Every city you mention is a Soros DA. Put there to let criminals out for the purpose of creating chaos. In fact, all of the DA's that let the rioters go in 2020, and they're now paying the money.

In New York, we've paid money to people that were arrested in 2020. They all have Soros DAs as well. And Soros has the biggest contributor, Antifa, the biggest contributor, Black Lives Matter, the biggest contributor to the Democratic Party, the biggest contributor to Biden, and the biggest contributor to these DAs. So it's almost in it. I could be blue in the face and telling them how to reduce crime, they're not going to do it.

They would have to resign and put a Republican there who hopefully would say, let me look at away it was done before and repeat it. So you would hire a lot more police, would down to 33,000 police officers. That's not enough for New York City. They don't prioritize police officers. DeBosio defunded them by a billion dollars and Adams has never put the money back a billion dollars taken out of the police department What do you think happens?

Not only that even if he wanted to hire police officers They're not gonna be New York City police officers all our police officers escape if they don't go to Florida They go to Nassau County Suffolk County are suburban counties that pay the police officers more and our police officers escape. If they don't go to Florida, they go to Nassau County, Suffolk County, or suburban counties, that pay the police officers more and treat them with a lot more respect. So, you would have to have a mayor that created morale in the police department. That the police department trusted not to jeopardize their lives and their career as any time they were the political controversy. You would have to go back to deciding on how you enforced the law based on Comstat. Comstat is a program that I invented with Bill Braden.

It goes back to my days in the Justice Department when I had a little FBI statistics with measures crime and locates it in exactly the places where it's growing and you move your police based on statistics, based on real facts, not sentiments, political pressure. So if all of a sudden you see three murders in a particular area You start to move into that area try to find out why see if you can find a common cause You reward your police officers not just for making arrests, but for reducing crime and You penalize the commanders when crime goes up. So change incentives. Yeah, here's what I thought I did. I changed policing incentive. That's one of the things. Here's what I thought I did. I changed policing. The best policing up until the time I was mayor is based on how many arrests you make. I reviewed an arrest as a failure.

Somebody's already been victimized. Somebody's already been killed. Somebody's already been robbed. Somebody's already been raped. Interesting. The real goal is prevent it. So by using the ComStat program, I could measure when you became a commander of a precinct, how much crime you had, each one of the categories you're talking about, and then how much you're reducing it, or how much it's going up. I promoted you if you reduced it.

I put you so far away from where you lived if it went up that you resigned. I managed by rewarding success, but I define success as reducing crime. That's a very important, by the way. So success to you was reducing crime, not increasing arrests. Absolutely.

Increase arrests only for the purpose of reducing crime. What's the second data you track as success? So first one is how you reduce crime in your district or in your city. Yeah, then you look the second one. The second one is you look at the things that a long term gonna matter like if you show me an increase in shooting someplace I can tell you that six months later you're gonna see an increase in murder because it's starting to move toward violence. Wow got it. So work on the shootings.

If you start seeing a neighborhood that had no graffiti, start to have graffiti, you know that that neighborhood is going to become overridden by gangs eventually. They've actually started to move in already. So go after the graffiti people because they're probably also the gang members. One of the things that De Blasio did that helped to raise crime in New York, this will sound strange, is he stopped arresting the people who were fairbeaters on the subway. We arrested everybody who was a fairbeater, never had been done before. Turns out that 45% of the people we arrested were dangerous criminals who were wanted. So we got them. We also solved a serial murder that way because a guy

who had never been arrested had killed two women. He was on his way to probably killing 10 or 15. He did a he did a turn style jump. We arrested him. We fingerprint him. We never would have fingerprint him if he had an arrest him. And then his fingerprint showed up on the on the on the purse of the third woman that he killed. So we stopped him after three. We've have a bunch of those that easily could have been serial murders that used to have flicked New York in in in the past. You got a look for the secondary characteristics that predict that you're going to have more crime.

The other way they describe that is the broken window theory. But when they say the broken window theory, it sounds like something silly. You enforce people who are spinning on the sidewalk. You look at what would be minor crimes that are in disha of a neighborhood starting to turn to much more dangerous crime, and you do enforcement of that and cut it out at an early stage. And a lot of it is study and hard work and prediction and statistics. I never would have been able to reduce crime the way I did 30 years earlier without the computer Because we never would have been able to analyze the statistics fast enough to turn them around and use them

to Act that's so weird because we have better predictive analytics technology today better data better Oh, we should be better at it. We should be better at this 100% better at at it. Instead, most of our politicians, particularly Democrats, engage in propaganda about crime. Like how about this cop got shot the other day. Adams shows up and says, we've got to get the guns off the street. We've got to enforce, we've got to have stronger gun control was. Now Adams was a cop.

By nature, what is a criminal? A criminal is a person whose behavior can't be controlled. Because if his behavior could be controlled, he wouldn't have shot somebody. So a criminal is not going to listen or obey the gun control was. Neither is a madman. So gun control might be good or bad and has nothing to do with reducing crime. Because criminals don't respond to controls. They're uncontrollable.

That's by nature. And the more dangerous they are, the more uncontrollable they are. So it's a fantasy world that think that gun control, which may be good to reduce suicides or accidental murders, has anything to do with crime. You want to go debate it based on its safer, you should have some of these controls because of the accidental murders to take place, but you're not going to, you could have all the gun control in the world which they have in Chicago, in have in New York and you can have massive number of murders Pat if I could just add one other thing because I researched for my last book this very question and my answer

I basically wrote a chapter about you the first thing that the mayor did and correct me if I'm wrong I grew up in Long Island so we have to come through the Midtown tunnel to get into the city my grandparents live in the city The first thing that he did basically we had all those guys that were standing outside the Midtown Tunnel And they were washing your windows with dirty water and it set a tone for when you got into the city So the suburban people would come into the city the first thing that would happen They were basically accosted by some version of homeless people or whatever it might be he immediately got rid of those people Then started cleaning up time square, and then suddenly all the other people

that lived in the other boroughs started coming in and realizing, oh, it's kind of clean here, and then people, it's what's happening here in Florida. You start modeling something good, and then people, because people are waiting for a model all the time. They don't just do it on their own, but you start getting rid of the people that are just annoying everybody,

and bothering everybody, and making things dirty and Uncomfortable and next thing you know everyone else starts. Yeah to quote Jordan Pison standing up with their shoulders back, right? And that actually is what happened and then we had 20 incredible years. I was there for virtually I was there for all of your mayorship Kelly carried it on and yeah Top of your thoughts when you're hearing this. How are you processing what he just said right now? Well, I have some firsthand experience with San Francisco. A chapter in my career, I lived in East Bay. I took Bart from Castro Valley to Arm Barca Dero and Montgomery Station, just two stations right there.

And I worked at 525 Market. And everything's so much South of Market. Today, you hear about all these issues. And I've seen it. So I've seen San Francisco before and after. And I want to know, do you think, Rudy, that there's also going to be some faith in the voters? The voters in San Francisco recalled the district attorney about a year ago.

Now have they got a better district attorney? We're about to find out. Because it's coming to a head. You also have commercial space right now, occupancy and pricing and commercial real estate space is dropping in San Francisco. And it's not COVID and it's not the recession. It's at San Francisco now for consocts. And nobody wants to put their business there

and put their people there. And now we've lost a leader from one of the pillars of San Francisco, which is the tech industry. And so, is there some faith that you can put in the voters? Can the voters turn the tide? They recalled the DA. The mayor is not, has been tenuous sleep, tenuous popularity right now, the mayor, which is about to go sideways because a week ago, no, no, not even a week, it was four days, four days before the murder, the mayor punts. Now, I think we all read about San Francisco that they've deep criminalized drug use,

you can actually use needles, you can be right there on the street and they will not arrest them. Well, now the mayor has got such issues going on with families leaving, businesses leaving, commercial real estate vacancy, had all these things kind of Chrys uncle and asked for federal dollars to help with the drug problem in San Francisco. Joining me in drug problem in San Francisco you're handing out needles and it got worse. What a shock. I gave whiskey and car keys to my son and I wrecked the car. I'm so surprised, right? Why are you surprised? Now you're crying for federal dollars. That this is true. I'm not exaggerating this. Saying it's where overrun, the problems overrun, and we have so many vacancies for law enforcement,

we can't fill them. Of course, because they don't want to, why do you want to be, I'll be a California highway patrolman in Central State. Why would I say instead of doing that, I'm going to take a job in San Francisco where there's no bullets in my gun. Right? I'm just supposed to show it and scare people. You sit there and you look at this. So I look at it and I say, is there a moment where we, the people, can kind of stand up and

demand change. They've recalled the DA, but is there a tide? Is it because you're talking about a smart person yourself with support from the mayor's office and from we, the people, and you're able to implement the things you're talking about a smart person yourself with support from the mayor's office and from we the people and you're able to implement the things you're talking about. If it wasn't the case, you wouldn't have been there long. If they said, oh, this is too terrible, this is as bad, you're being hard on youth, all those things in the BS that goes with that.

Do you think there's a tide that can turn in San Francisco for the citizenry even though they are very liberal on social matters look around at the crime and what's happened to their city they recall the d a do you think there's a point where the people can say enough and can start voting in favor of i'd be against the people that are going to support from sorrows i think

i i i hate to say it, I don't know. It was true 30 years ago, when I got elected, some other people got elected, people just were tired of the crime, but you look at Chicago the other day. That never should have happened in Chicago. I don't know if the will is there or there's been such a change in the attitude. I'm not talking about America now. I'm talking about cities. I mean, there was an article today or yesterday basically saying San Francisco has passed

the turning point and it's gone. It's a very fatalistic attitude. I hate that. I mean, I'm always an optimist. So I would say, sure there's a chance, if you elect, if you elect an independent person, a very strong person, and a person doesn't mind getting criticized, and evaluates themselves on honest principles.

And there are people like that, and occasionally you can vote for someone like that, but they're not the usual person that runs for office. You get that person, particularly a mayor, a mayor in New York in particular, has great power for good or bad, more power in a way in your little domain than the president has to change things. So yeah, I mean, if next time we elect the right person for mayor, you could turn around New York. I think I'm not sure the San Francisco is too far gone. I hate to tell you San Francisco doesn't need Harvey Dent, it needs Batman.

That's the situation. Maybe too far gone. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, so. I think Chicago is too far gone. I think they just indicated that. Yeah. By the way, I have the stats for the cities.

When you go through the cities with the biggest crime, and you look at top 20, I have a somewhere on here when we were going through it. I think what was it, 27 at a 30 top cities in America are ran by democratic mayor. So when you're going back and I asked a question from you, and the first thing you said is, I don't know if the question is right

because it's about politics. You're making me think about the fact that it depends on where their policies lie for them to execute the right thing. But here's one thing I would say for the person that's watching this, okay? We had a person that we're talking about, hey, my kids are going to the school,

you know, what do I do about it? I said, listen, there's different levels of parenting. There's those parents that are oblivious of what's going on in school. They just don't give a shit. They don't pay attention. Like, ah, whatever. Then there's those parents that are,

they know what's going on. They bitch and complain. They're not happy about it, but they just talk. They don't do anything. Then the third level of people is the people that say, I know what's going on. I care about it, and I'm gonna run for board because there's only a five percent turnout,

I'm gonna go and do something about it. Then the fourth step is, hey, I have tried, I did try to do something, other parents were not for it. I've decided to move to a different state, okay? Then the other option is I'm gonna do homeschooling, or I'm gonna put them in private school if you can afford it, right? There's certain things to it.

If somebody is watching this this and you're saying, I wish my mayor in my city would do this. This is my suggestion to you. This part of the podcast that we just had, we're going to put a clip to it, right, what mayor suggestion was. I would share this part with as many people in your city as possible, including with your mayor and the people in the office and say,

hey, here's a case study of a guy in the last 50 years that was able to do it better than anybody else. I don't wanna leave my city, I love my city. Why don't we set aside the politics, whether you like this man or not? He did something in a city that cleaned up the streets. You and I were having lunch at this restaurant over here in Angelo's and the owner was there and he came up.

I can't even tell you how the reaction was. We're sitting there, you know, and all of a sudden, he's like, Tom, you remember this. He comes in and he says, Mayor Giuliani, I have to tell you, you are my hero. I am Italian. I grew up in the streets. I remember how you cleaned up the streets.

We felt safer, kids, myself, everybody. You are my hero. He's saying this to him, why we're sitting having regular lunch together, and a lot of other people feel that way as well. So my suggestion, whatever city you're in San Francisco, LA, Baltimore, Shai town, whatever it is, shared as part of the message, and maybe you can be the voice, the leader to help that city get some good ideas there. Again, I'm a guys love today's podcast, by the way. Okay. For those of you guys that are watching out there, we wish you were here with us. We got some complaints from some people saying Patrick, it's as if you keep this as a secret. We did not know how to buy tickets.

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part is going to be about 30 minutes. But just for my own sake, because I'm wanting to learn from the audience, this is our second one that we're doing. Do you guys prefer for this to be at night or in the morning? We typically... Really? Okay, do me favor. Do me favor make noise if you wanted nighttime like this. Okay, make noise if you wanted morning 9-11. Okay. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Makes sense. You lost the smoke.

It was rigged just so you know from the beginning. All right, and then the other question for you is, are you okay if we would have gone 30 minutes more to make it three hours or do you want it to be two hours? Okay, let me, let me, make noise if you're okay for three hours. Would you like it to be two hours? More three hours.

So next time we're gonna do three hours because I can go another two hours with them. And by the way, in a way, I got to tell you, I kind of want to give them a purple heart because nobody has to use a restroom. We've been going for three hours. So mix and noise for the mayor here for doing a phenomenal job. So mayor, if you're okay, we like to have these folks, you ask a few questions for another 30 minutes. So anybody, if you have a questions in the VIP side, raise hand will go right to you go for it right there. How are you gentlemen? My name is Gonzalo and I'm a big fan of everybody. So I wish I could ask questions to everybody here, but Adam. I've seen your progression, you know your finance guy, you're a data-driven guy.

data-driven guy.