PBD Podcast - SAVE Act FAILS + LA's CROOKED Election? | PBD #813

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down the controversy surrounding mail-in voting in the Los Angeles mayoral race, New York’s proposed gender-neutral language ...changes, Michael Saylor’s Bitcoin strategy, Anthropic’s warning about the future of artificial intelligence, the criminal case involving Henry Nowak’s alleged killer, and FIFA’s new World Cup rules ahead of the 2026 tournament.------✝️ FAITH OVER FEAR COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4udBM6w?r=qr🦁 THE VAULT 2026: AUG 31ST TO SEPT 1ST: https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpwⓂ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj🇰 KALSHI: ⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed to take sweet with the story. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right? You are a 101? My son's right, there.
Starting point is 00:00:19 I think I've ever said this before. Who was sick on Monday? Not me. You were not sick on Monday. No, sick in the head, maybe. Different story. But today's all love. No, today's love.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Guys, you missed it. Brooklyn was here in the house, my four-year-old this year, running around, making sure we're scored away. We got a lot of stories to cover with you. And Vinny's got a surprise. Let me take these glasses off. I'm looking 62 years off. I like those glasses on your bat.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Anyway, I'm sure I'm going to hear from Meron saying, you know, wear better glasses. But lots happening. Lots happening. Folks, what do you think the chances are of, let's just say you live in a city where math maybe is not that popular and they need additional time to count? You know what I'm saying? Tom, like some cities, they need a lot of time to count to 20,000, 20,000, 400, whatever it is. And then imagine there's like these two guys that one of them could possibly pass up the other person, but he's got a massive lead. And the other one is way behind them.
Starting point is 00:01:19 But out of the 20,000 plus votes that they're counting, only seven or so went to this guy named Spencer Pratt in L.A. Now, of course, it would never happen. but Tom has some ideas of what he thinks is going to be taking place. There is now a calci, there's a little bit of audio, so somebody's thing is on. There's a little bit of a cali that is saying, what did cali say, Rob? I think his chances, Spencer Pratt's chances of advancing, according to Calci, dropped to 8%. I don't know if it was Cali. I think it was Calci dropped to 8% suddenly out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yes, 6.8%. Look at that. Look at that. Now there's Sinithia Ramon is going to pass up and go into. and the volume on this is $62 million. So what the hell happened the last $24.48? We will talk about that. The SAVE Act, maybe one of the biggest things that happen.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I don't know the exact numbers, but I thought it was 50 to 48, which is a good thing for the people that want to be able to not have people, have an ID to vote. Because I don't know if you know or not. There's many states that you can vote without an ID. And the SAVE Act, which, by the way, Huberto sent a very good chart this morning that 83, 84% of Americans. So, Roberto, can you verify that 83, 84%?
Starting point is 00:02:29 percent of Americans want voter ID to vote. So it's only 16, 17 percent that don't want it. 84% want voter ID, but the SAVE Act will talk about that. Then there's this guy that for 18 years wore a tattoo of a concentration camp. What was it? Concentration camp guards. Concentration camp guards. And then they removed it.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And it's so bad that people are just saying, you know, Chuck Schumer. There's videos. Apparently a story came out with New York Times with three different girls, one of them being a Republican. saying the fact the guy's a crazy guy drinking all this other stuff. And there's a video of him performing at a bar. Rob, I don't know if you have that video or not, of him running around performing at a bar. And Batia, Batia had such a great thing to say about it.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Love it. She's phenomenal. Honestly, she's so talented. And then Sonny Hosten said something. She says, I'm from Maine. You just sometimes have to close your eyes, close your nose, and vote for it. And then Professor Galloway said some stuff. Yeah, I mean, he's performing right there.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And those are not Speedos, but they're probably small haines. underwear that he's going around doing his things. At least he's a performer. Yeah. But I don't know about being a senator. Then Carmelo Anthony, not the basketball player, but the other Carmelo Anthony that is in court right now. There was protesting outside. This guy, Jake Lang was outside.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Just a lot of ruckus going on. And again, our goal is to lower the temperature, not increase it, but some people are doing that. Anthropic comes out and says, we have to be careful with AI. Maybe it's a good idea to put a pause on what do you call it, on AI. And they're saying it right after a few days after they quietly wanted to file for going IPO time. Am I correct on that one that quietly they want an IPO? But then he's coming us in, we've got to put a pause on AI, which is kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:04:12 We'll talk about that. And then a story that Vinny brought up, a very, very heartbreaking story of YouTuber. Is it Jesse Ridgeway? Am I saying that correctly? Yes. And his wife made difficult decision to terminate pregnancy after finding gals. Down syndrome's diagnosis, gut punch, and we'll talk about that to see what the position is. Of course, there's different positions people have, but we'll definitely go, Vinnie,
Starting point is 00:04:38 you got a lot of thoughts on this, and it's, and I have a story to tell about this if we get into it. L.A. mayor-or-lays, we'll talk New York. You see, every time you think New York is going to make some kind of an adjustment, they keep going the other way. You know the word mother and father New York wants to change to say it's offensive? They don't want you to use the word mother and father in New York. is coming around the corner and you have Mother's Day and Father's Day, they want to replace mother with gestating parent? Am I saying it correctly, Tom? Rob Emma, can you pronounce that?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Correct. If you have a uterus, you gestate. If you don't have a uterus, you don't. Not just ate. Like you just ate a meal. Just ate with a jeet. Like when they say, we got some immigrants that watch the job. No, no, humans gestation period is nine and a half months. Elephants is a year. That's the amount of time from pregnancy to a birth. Elephants take forever to have a baby. What does
Starting point is 00:05:33 elephants have to do with mother? Well, because that's where kids will learn gestation periods. When they go to school, they'll say what's a gestation period for an elephant? I bet you elephants are still going to call a mother and father. 100%. That's right. And you want to get in front of a mother elephant and tell her she's not a mother. We're going to talk about that. And then Michael Taylor. I think he just threatened you with the elephant.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I'm not messing with Tom whatsoever. No, no. And by the way, there is there's a guy who is more cool calm collected when he's down eight and a half billion. There's not a guy more calm than Michael Saylor. And a lot of people are saying this guy's going to lose it all. We have a guy here who's a who's rooting for him to lose everything. I don't want to say his name. I don't want to disclose him.
Starting point is 00:06:10 But we got a guy that's looking like the guy from Boogie Nights. You put Humberto on a podcast twice. He now walks around thinking he's a superstar. He was signing autograph. I saw that. That's the FedEx guy, dude. No problem. No problem.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I can go again. We haven't talked about World Cup. What happened? Japan goes to Mexico. And they say the conditions are so bad. They're threatening to leave the World Cup, Japan. And by the way, Japan's been improving a lot with some of the stuff they're doing training-wise. But we'll talk about the World Cup.
Starting point is 00:06:39 There's a lot of stuff there. Henry Nowak, apparently there's a new video that came out, Rob, of the killer. That's apparently he's accustomed to run and around with that ceremonial knife that he has. And he pulled it out. And apparently they verified that it's him. We'll play that clip. and then I got a letter I want to write, read to mothers out there written by a daughter. You know, a lot of times people say, all you talk about his father and son and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:03 How about some mothers and daughters? To all the mothers and daughters, I'm going to read something to you. That's going to get you emotional. I read it. I said, this is awesome. Shared it with my wife. I think every mother needs to read this. It was very insightful and inspirational.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Anyways, having said that, we got some massive, massive news from our friend here, Vinny, massive news that you guys have been waiting for. Go ahead, Vinnie. Well, thank you, Pat. The black, the hat that I'm wearing right now, I'm going to take it off. My hair is going to be messed up is the new faith over fear, black and gold.
Starting point is 00:07:32 We have our shield here. And I'm talking about gold stitching, like, actually, like not real gold. But look at how ridiculous that is. Cross. Gold in the back, snap back with the Hebrews, our crosses on the inside. And I'm telling you guys right now, Pat,
Starting point is 00:07:44 I wore this hat to breakfast with Humberto and an older, late 80 years old. Her name was Amy. She grabs me. She's like, I want that hat. And I felt so bad because I couldn't give it. I'm like, I got a pitch for the podcast. And Pat, she went on the story for 20 minutes, ask him, he's my witness, about cancer and beating it and having faith.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And her, she was so calm, Tom, saying that she's like, even if I didn't, I still have faith that God would take care of me. It was an emotional. If I forgot that we're even eating breakfast. But this, I'm telling you, besides just a hat, it's a conversation started, is letting people know. I can't tell you how many times in that same diner, Pat. I'm sitting there at the counter. And there's a congregation. People are telling their stories.
Starting point is 00:08:25 So this hat is out right now. People have been asking for it. And the white and black just got restocked. We sold out on this hat in nine hours, Pat. So everybody out there, please, I want to say thank you, number one. Number two, go to vtmerch.com. I guarantee you this is going to be sold out in two days. Get on vtmerch.com and get them because people message me on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And they're like, hey, why didn't you? They're sick. The hat's sick. The sweater's sick. But he's sick, the shirts and get the whole gear and go to church on Sunday with it. Let's go. All right. Having said that, let's get right into it.
Starting point is 00:08:57 First story I want to get into is the L.A. mayoral race. Everybody's watching afterwards. Oh, Spencer Pratt's going to win. It's done. You know, it's going to be great. It's going to be fantastic. We got a new guy that's going to be going against Karen Bass, and he's got five months of calling out her BS.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And then all of a sudden, reports come out hours later. Calci. He went from high chances of being one of the two to go on the runoff. No, it's down to. 64%, then 38% chance. And this morning on Calci, it's now down to 6.8% odds that is favored to be one of the top two. And Nithia Rahman moved up to 29%. And Bass is at 64%. Rob, do you want to play one of the clips of what happened with ballots being counted? Go ahead, Rob. The fact that we don't know who's, there are tranches of voters, votes arriving tomorrow, we're told. Like, we don't know, I guess,
Starting point is 00:09:48 what Orange County's current ballot count is right now. Wouldn't anybody like to know that? I would like to know that. You know, we're seeing the registrar, you know, county clerk video now, but we don't know how many Republicans are there, how many observers are there, should the Justice Department send observers? I don't know. I don't know how this can work, but something's got to change. Well, I do think there needs to be an investigation. We see these many irregularities. The broader context of it, Laura, is it destroys Americans' faith in our elections. In a republic, We rely on that.
Starting point is 00:10:20 By the way, what is the numbers? How many came in? I saw a report yesterday that I shared with you guys. Maybe I shared it with you guys this morning. I'll read it to you. And Tom, I'm going to come to you first with this one here because this is a big story, especially for people in L.A. that were helping out.
Starting point is 00:10:35 So I read this story that says Prantz got zero out of the 24,000 votes in L.A. Late night, L.A. Ballad Drop zero out of 24, a guy getting around, what? Zero for real? This is right here. A guy getting around 30% support. got zero out of 24,000. Astronomically, small probability of happening impossible.
Starting point is 00:10:54 California no longer even hides it. Doors need to be kicked in. Now, go to the bottom, Rob, to see if Grock, if somebody verified this. So total was 308,000 votes, 878. Spencer Pratt, 86,323. Ballot drops, 330, 712 votes. Spencer Pratt stays at 86,323. Zero out of 24,834, to be exact, mathematically impossible, Vinnie.
Starting point is 00:11:18 That's what astronomical, what do we even talk about? Rob, stay on that tweet. Let me go a little bit underneath that tweet to see what else other people are saying. If you could, so go a little bit lower. By way, that's a screenshot I have too. That is from the systems that are available to the public. That is a screenshot of the systems. Take a look on the left.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Top left, top right. Top left. 39.3 of the voted was in 308,000. Then go to the top right. 42% of the vote, 33,000. Spencer Pratt's total didn't budge. How is that even possible? It's not possible.
Starting point is 00:11:55 That is why it is not statistically possible to happen. Raman gets another 10,000 votes, 61-9 to 71-4, a little under 10,000. Out of nowhere? Really? Even Adam Miller gets another 1,300 votes, and he was the non-partisan. And Pratt gets zero. And Pratt gets zero. So this is where Americans lose trust in the whole bloody thing.
Starting point is 00:12:20 This is where they do. When we, what was very interesting, what was going on in the presidential election, 2024, and we covered it. Wisconsin. We were working with our partner Decision Desicions, HQ, and we had feeds from all 50 of the Secretary of States coming in, and we could see the votes coming in, and we could see the way they came in. And it looked, there were some states that looked really funky. Lumps will come in. You get to Bucks County, Pennsylvania, and it's a crop shoot. You just, that was my word for it.
Starting point is 00:12:50 But you go to L.A. here. Well, we're doing this methodically. And they show you this beautiful warehouse, organized tables, people sitting there apparently doing their jobs. But the question is, where are those white buckets full of those mail-in boats coming from? And when does the music stop? And who doesn't get a chair? Rob, what is this, Rob? This is the president yesterday talking about the California election.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Governatorial and the L.A. Mayor. Go forth. Just don't want cheating in our elections. And you see it happening in California. Those numbers are coming down rapidly. They found a lot of mail-in ballots last night, shockingly. So we don't want that. Then we added best of, this is best of Trump.
Starting point is 00:13:31 No men and women's sports. No transgender mutilization surgery for our children. Oh, okay. Okay, so, so go ahead, Tom. And it goes to voter ID. we have seen everybody in the media, even CNN, Harry Enten has done several segments. We don't need to go to them. But he covered that overwhelming percent of Hispanics, of black voters, of white voters,
Starting point is 00:13:56 of rich voters, of poor voters, of Republican voters, of Democrat voters. Voter ID is not a controversial issue in this country. Look at this. Play this rap? Go play from the beginning, please. The American people are with Nikki Minaj, because what are we talking about here? So take a look here. Favor voter ID to vote.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Look, I got all this polling on the screen going back since 2018. You'll notice on all of it, it's all north of 75%, 76%, 76%, 76%, 81%, and then 83% in the last year of Americans agree with Nikki Minaj. They favor photo ID to be able to vote. What about by party? What's the party burden? Yeah, normally you might expect, hey, there'd be a big divide by party, with Republicans really for it and Democrats really against it, but not really here.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I mean, just take a look here. Favorite photo ID about it. You've got 95% of Republicans, pretty much all of them, but even 71% of Democrats favor photo ID to vote. So again, Nikki Minaj posting that on X, and what you see is that the American people, actually, it's not really all that controversial. The American people are with Nikki Minaj, whether they are Republican or even if they are Democrats, we're talking about seven and ten Democrats, agree with Nikki Minnich. Go back off of this. Can you go to states that you don't require an ID to vote? I want this to be shown over and over and over and over again
Starting point is 00:15:19 so people finally realize in the following states, you do not need an ID to vote. Which ones are the ones for no, no photo ID required. Look at all the great. The orange. No, no idea required. No ID required. Orange is no photo ID required. So imagine you can go and show a Bali total fitness ID.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Oh, okay, this is Adam Sosnik. But I used to, Valley's been out of business for 30 years. I get it, but it's an ID. We'll take it. Obviously, I'm being a little bit facetious, but what I'm trying to say to you is, non-photo ID required. Photo ID required is all the blue. See all the blue?
Starting point is 00:15:52 All the grays, you don't need anything. So go a little bit lower up to see if those states we have, how many states don't require at all a photo ID? Matter of fact, go to chat, GPT, and just ask the question, how many states in America don't require a photo ID or an ID period. It'll break it down for you. This is why Americans like, listen, I'm so impressed with 71% of Democrats that are saying we need to have a photo ID to vote. Good for those 71%. You know what those 71% are? Those are Kennedy type of voters. Those are old Democrats that are like, look, they're probably
Starting point is 00:16:24 pro-life, pro-choice Democrats. They're the pro-choice Democrats. They're the climate change Democrats. But they still have the integrity to say, I want people to have an ID to vote. 23 states require a photo ID for in-person voting. 12 states accept non-photo ID. 15 jurisdictions, including D.C., requires no ID document at all. How the hell do I go to TSA, go through the airport, I need an ID? How the hell do I need an ID when I'm pulled over? Cops says, can I see your ID, drivers and registration? But when it comes down to the most important decision to vote for the most important job in the world,
Starting point is 00:17:01 you don't need an ID? You mean to tell me that doesn't make any sense? Oh, let's vote against it. Rob, what was the results on the voting of voter ID if we can go straight to the voter Part because the Voter ID Part Save Act, that's on page 4. I'll read it and I'll come to you guys with this. Let me see, which story is that? It says page 4.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Is it addendum 4? Is it page 4? Okay, let me go to addendum 4 with this on Voter ID. Maybe these two are kind of tied to one another. Which one is it? There is. Senate GOP Rebellion continues four dissidents, senators, joint Democrats to sink Trump's Save America Act again,
Starting point is 00:17:37 four Republicans join a man we got to know who these four Republicans are where's that story terms of last month I don't have this says page 4 but page 4 I don't have the page 4 with four Republicans Rob right here it's not in the story
Starting point is 00:17:52 I'm on addendum let me go over here maybe page 4 let me read it was the usual women you know Sue Murkowski oh my bad okay I have it the riff within the Republican Party and sent me 4GOPs on the Democrats 4th time 7th 19th okay got it who were to for the dissident did not budge
Starting point is 00:18:07 Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky. Didn't he step down? Oh, he's stepping out at end of the year? No, I don't worry. Tom Tillis of North Carolina once again voted against the legislation
Starting point is 00:18:19 which enjoyed the backing of the majority of Republican colleagues. Their vote was enough to derail the maneuver dealing a fresh blow to President Trump and congressional majority leader ability to maintain ability to maintain party discipline
Starting point is 00:18:35 within their own ranks, Republican attempt was to attach the safeguarding American voter eligibility act to nearly $70 billion out of budget reconciliation package and tend to fund immigration. We know that one, but specifically the Save America Act. Adam, your thoughts on the story. So it's very hard to get consensus. By the way, if the 50 went the other way, Rob, they have it, right? If the four go the other way they have it, they would have won.
Starting point is 00:19:01 That's a breakdown. 48, yay, 50 nay. And California is one of the states, does not require voter ID, right? So, I mean, it's so hard to get consensus in this country. When you see people in the Democratic Party, even the Republicans, especially 75, 80, 85, 90% want voter ID. And then you just deny that ability. That's what just doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:19:23 But back to the Spencer Pratt thing, this is the first I'm hearing that he's not even going to potentially make the runoff. Because when we were texting, I believe, yesterday, it looked like he was number two, right? He did. And then this does look at that. How many 25,000 ballots show up and he gets zero? Something fishy here.
Starting point is 00:19:41 But I think there's a bigger story that with Spencer Pratt, I think in a weird way, this like reality star bad boy became the embodiment of hope and prayer and common sense in L.A. But here's what I've learned. Sometimes, whether you're a person, whether you're a company, whether you're even a state, you have to hit rock bottom. and we, in the amazing state of Florida, coming from Texas, we thought, all right, maybe California has reached rock bottom at this point, L.A.
Starting point is 00:20:14 especially. They've reached rock bottom. And hopefully, when you're rock bottom, you can continue downward and then go to rehab or whatever that looks like, or you can completely change direction and clean up your life. And what it's come clear to me is out L.A., California has unfortunately not hit rock bottom. And the reason for that is very simple. Trump is still in the White House. Every single thing that this party does, unfortunately, is just anti-Trump. What's the one thing they tried to do to paint Spencer Pratt as the bad guy?
Starting point is 00:20:48 They labeled him a MAGA extremist. This is in a situation where it's no party affiliation in these races. So unfortunately, despite the crime, the homelessness, the cost of living, the taxes, the woke trans agenda, They still vote for the communists or the Marxist and who want to push that a jet. Tom, talk to me about the voterity of these stuff. So the SAVE Act. So John Thune needs to be a little bit more brave. Here's what he was saying.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Listen, the SAVE Act, I can't get it to a vote because of the filibuster. You need 60 votes in the Senate to break a filibuster. What is a filibuster? It's endless debate. you keep debating, keep debating, keep debating. You had the famous fake debate where Corey Booker somehow kept talking for 19 hours. It was Cory Booker talked for like 25 hours.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Without going to the bathroom, potentially. So everybody said, I know one other guy that can do something like that. Was he wearing a male diaper? Is there a bucket under there? Because it was like he had coffee, he had water. And yet he never went anywhere. Delayed, delay, delay. So the filibuster delay.
Starting point is 00:21:58 How do you break the delay? The majority leader stands up, and says, enough of this, we need for the American people to move to a vote on this bill. Now, the rules say you need 60 votes, not 50, you need 60. In other words, it can't just be one over the limit. So somebody's got to come with you. Well, if the Democrats don't want you to win the ultimate vote by one vote or two votes, which is what would happen in this case, they just say we're going to eliminate it,
Starting point is 00:22:26 which is why everyone talks about we need to eliminate the filibuster. because the filibuster is an FU to the American people who voted for people to get things done and to debate on them and finish the debate and get it done. And so Thune should have stood up and exposed Schumer and gone to the cameras and say, America, that guy won't stop the debate. I can't get the Save Act to the floor that 75% of blacks, 77% of Hispanics, 82% of whites, and this percent of 71% of Democrats want. I can't get it here.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Because he won't shut up. We debated long enough. The House has voted. Let's get it across. Thune didn't do that. Thune went behind closed doors and said, let's let it die because we'll never overcome the filibuster. And let's get into other more important business.
Starting point is 00:23:14 What is more important than the SAVE Act during a year that Americans have losing faith in the institution of voting, which is the very citizen act of preserving democracy itself? Yeah, and not much. And by the way, this is Mitch McConnell. So 40 years later, he votes against it, but this is what he said 40 years ago. Go ahead, Rob. Mr. President's Election Day in Kentucky, and I suspect on this election day, as on many election days over the last 100 years or so, in some areas of my state, people are attempting
Starting point is 00:23:50 to buy votes, sell votes, intimidate voters, and in general distort the election process. Earlier in my life, I taught on a part-time basis a course called American political parties and elections. We talked about with the students the election fraud problems in some areas of this country. It is clearly not a problem everywhere, but in certain areas of our country, particularly rural, one-party areas in the south, and in certain big cities in the Midwest. And in the north, by the way, just to kind of give you an idea instead of going through the whole thing, he advocated for voter ID laws during much of his career and yet he just voted against it, just so you guys know. That's Mitch McConnell.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Listen to Mitch McConnell for more than 30 seconds. You're going to question a lot of things. He's now a Trump enemy, right? And now it's anything against Trump. And not only that, forget about anything against Trump. You know what I even think it is? I don't even think it's just anything against Trump. It was very disturbing watching Jill Biden's interview with everybody and, you know, lying about Joe.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I didn't know he was this. I didn't know he was that. And there's even a clip of Jill Biden. I don't know if I saw that. It's like, the doctor should have known. Oh, by the way, I'm a doctor. Did you got to see that clip? What I meant was.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Do you have that one, Rob? Or she says, doctors should have known. On the view. Yeah, on the view. If you just type in Jill Biden, view, doctor. You know, if you just type in Jill Biden, Anyway, so what I think is going on here is I think Mitch McConnell has no clue what's going on. Of course.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And I don't even think, yeah, this is the one. Go ahead, Rob. He'd given so much of himself and to see you even saying, like, I thought he was having a medical episode. I was concerned. Was there any part of you that went into protection mode of like, Joe, you can't keep doing this? Like, this is, they're taking so much from you. But the doctors told me he was fine. I'm not a doctor.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I mean, I am a doctor. I didn't go. So the point is, does Mitch even know what he's doing? No. Does Mitch even know like where he's at? Like how old is Mitch right now? 80 something and it's like it's 80 something like a Trump, you know, where he's at.
Starting point is 00:26:11 He has not looked good for a while. you'll talk on. And I'm one, I'll talk to anybody and everybody who is respectful and we'll have the conversations together to see what the other side like yesterday we had Medea San. Medea San is a professional debater
Starting point is 00:26:36 he does this for a living and he's been doing this for a while. By the way, as crazy as it sounds, one of my favorite conversations at the year. Just to see what the arguments are being made on the other side for us to know how we can learn, especially Samadhi formal.
Starting point is 00:26:48 You think he's in the ear of a guy like, what do you call it, Mamdani? You think he knows what's going on? Of course, sure. But the point is, But the point is when you're sitting here, this to me is a top five issue, long term for you and your kids. This is a side act. Of course it is. Of course it is.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And by the way, the Save Act of my opinion, if it doesn't get passed under Trump, the Save Act's not going to get passed under a Democrat. And then whoever comes next, what is the likelihood that that person is going to be able to pass something like this? I don't think there's anything. I'm trying to think what I would put ahead of this. There's probably a few things I would put ahead of this. But this to me is a top five issue. Absolutely a top five issue. I would even say top three because we're talking about leadership.
Starting point is 00:27:34 You can sell me on going number one, but I think it's that important. Yeah, 100% Pat. And just to really, really, I'm going to go rapid fire. Pat, like I'm not, it's so sad and it's scary, but I'm not surprised, especially with California, Gavin Newsom came out and he said about breaking the glass. He goes, I have a Blake the glass scenario. anything happens and he was smiling about it and giggling about it. And by the way, California has zero election integrity.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Pat, no voter ID, signatures don't have to match. Ballots are sent everywhere. Even people who moved out of the state are getting ballots. Unsecure drop boxes. Benny Johnson showed something where Pat, it's a porta party address had ballots showing up. That's where the address is. Weeks and months have calm balance.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Third world countries have voting happened in one day. They find out who's the leader. But this is the Chris Cuomo party. Remember the debate we have with Chris Cuomo? He's like, no. You shouldn't have voter ID. They're not even hiding it. And then now you wonder why, Pat, people are sit back and like,
Starting point is 00:28:28 no wonder why the border was wide open. You import all these people. You don't have to check where the votes are coming from. Just send them in. There's zero integrity, open border. You make your state a sanctuary city. And then the people that are trying to get rid of the people, get rid of the votes, ICE, you call them Gestapo, and you go after them,
Starting point is 00:28:45 and you docks them. You try to get them hurt. Meanwhile, they're sacrificing American children, American women. People are getting hooked on drugs, rate by illegals, but they don't give a damn because they're getting their freaking votes, Pat. And I'm so happy you said top five, I put it in top three. If we can have legitimately like I voted for this guy, then what the hell are we doing? I'm with you. What are we doing? Rob, can you do me favor, Rob?
Starting point is 00:29:06 Ask the question on a poll. Is the voter ID, how important is the voter ID Act, whatever it's called, Save Act? What does it rank in your issues to be addressed during Trump's administration? top five, top three, or number one, or not in the top five. Let's just see what the audience is. I'm actually curious to know how other people view this because the integrity part is, look, if you lose, you know what's the thing about losing?
Starting point is 00:29:32 Like, why are sports so great? You know, and what sport get criticized a lot for what happens? Boxing. Boxing gets the most critics. Why? Because three people are judging. Yes. Especially when it goes to what?
Starting point is 00:29:45 When it goes to the end, well, you know, decision. Decision. Decision. You know, 88 to 86. Unanimous. And you're like, you know what? No. But you watch a basketball game. You're like, you know, this is great. There's a movie Ted Loussa, Gregshire, an old friend of ours would tell me,
Starting point is 00:29:58 go watch it and see who it reminds you. If I watched one episode, I'm like, freaking Tom Ellsworth. By the way, if we ever become, God willing, if it happens, if we ever become a majority owner of a Major League Baseball team, and I'm telling you this right now, if that ever happens, Tom's going to be our GM. I'm telling you he will be the best GM. We work our asses off to be in a position one day to be a majority owner,
Starting point is 00:30:19 of a major league baseball team. I'm announcing it in advance when this happens. I'm going to announce. I'd like to announce our general manager of our ballpark, you know, our organization. Thomas Ellsworth, good friend of mine of 20 plus years. He's going to be doing this. And why, though?
Starting point is 00:30:35 Watch what we do for the fans. Watch what we do for the game. Watch what we do for the league. God willing when it happens. Anyways, you've got our big dreams, folks. Crazy. People say, you're out of your freaking mind. You know, and by the way,
Starting point is 00:30:47 you got to be able to dream when things, aren't even going your way at times. You still gotta be able to think big. But let me go with this. In Ted Lassau, while they're going back and forth and they're doing their things, and I'm talking about what, Brian, a voter ID? He says, so you mean to tell me?
Starting point is 00:31:01 So, of course, we're gonna, because he was a football coach. And they hire him, this mother, this woman who her husband cheats on her, and she keeps the team in the divorce settlement and she wants to destroy the team. So she decides to go recruit the worst coach in the world that she brings a football coach from America was no clue about soccer.
Starting point is 00:31:20 To European soccer. Yeah, to Europe. And he starts doing a press conference. Like, yeah, so we're going to play until somebody wins. And the reporter says, well, no, in soccer, there's ties. Well, you mean to tell me you guys play till there's a tie? So you guys don't play till somebody wins? No, there's a tie.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Well, how do you know if who's a better team? You don't, there's a tie. Well, we're going to do our best even if it's a tie. He keeps going, right? You're just watching this guy. By the way, the whole show started off as a. They spoof sketch that he created that they said, let's turn this into a movie. And then it becomes a show.
Starting point is 00:31:53 It's a phenomenal show. Anyways, long story short, you know what we care about. Here's what we care about. How many times have you lost in your life? A lot. How many times have you lost in your life? Tom, how many times have you lost in your life? A lot.
Starting point is 00:32:03 The clock runs out. I points around the scoreboard. Have you ever had public losses, like in sports? Have you ever had public losses with sports or with business or winning? You know what it's like when you lose? But when you lose, you know the other guy's better than you. What do you say? You know what?
Starting point is 00:32:17 Got to improve. Can't do nothing about it. All we care about with voter ID, guess what, Democrats? If you win, maybe you have better ideas. Maybe Americans want your ideas. Maybe they do. And if you don't, you don't. But make it flipping fair instead of bullshit.
Starting point is 00:32:35 24,000, and this guy was number two. One here, one here, one here. No, this guy gets nothing. Come on. Now, Americans are sitting around saying, you know, you're out of your mind. By the way, here's where I'm at, Tom. I still believe Pratt's going to come ahead. I still believe.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I still believe Pratt's going to come ahead. Why are you still optimistic that Pratt's going to come ahead? Because, Tom, you want to give the numbers that you had on how close it's going to get? Remember how he wins, he loses by 200 votes or the numbers that you had? Rob, I don't know if you have that or not. Hang on. Tom had a prediction of what he thinks is going to be happening. It's such a close, close call.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Tom is speaking, you know, Tom is in the space with all the other folks that look at polls and numbers. The general manager types. Yeah, yeah, the general manager types. And Tom had this chart that he was sharing. with us that he thinks it's going to come down to a ramen winning by to go to the bottom right there you have it perfect watch this folks if you can share the screen so tom's guesstimating look how close it gets so nithia ramen comes up and wins by a little over 2,700 votes because they're going to try to push everything to pratt everything to pratt if they pull this
Starting point is 00:33:42 off she wins not wins but it goes 24.6 to 24.3 Spencer pratt's out nobody's going to be exposing Karen Bass's hypocrisy. Ramen and Bass are going to team up together. Ramen's going to get a bigger job. Bass keeps her job and the rest of history. That's what's going to happen. That's what Tom's predicting. Visit BetMGM Casino and check out the newest exclusive.
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Starting point is 00:34:36 and a guy named Lester that worked with us on the election when we had the big board and we did everything. Remember that, Vinny? We had all the numbers. He modeled it and we were talking and he says, let me model what I think the cheat's going to be based on the drops I'm seeing coming in. So we're modeling what we believe is the cheat.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I'm not accusing any individual or any in particular, but this appears to be how the crime is being committed in real time. That's what we think, and this is how we think it's going to come out. Remember in 2020 with the Biden jump in Wisconsin, that chart? Rob, can you show that chart? It literally, Trump got zero, zero overnight.
Starting point is 00:35:17 and look at this jump. No, go back. It was right there. It was in the background of the guy on the, you had it, Rob. It was in the background of what you showed previously.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Right there. Look at that jump back. It's impossible. This is impossible. Overn, 623 in the morning. That happened. No one underestimate the power of the greatest motivational
Starting point is 00:35:35 speaker of all time, Joe Biden. Yeah. I'm not underestimated power. The most popular president ever. The most popular president ever who couldn't move a single merch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I would love to meet one person who ever bought a merch from him. By the way, Bernie Sanders, can move merge. Yes. AOC can move merge. Obama can sell out merge.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Yes. Trump, the goat of selling merge. Joe Biden, who got the most votes in the history of mankind, couldn't sell one hat. Nope. He couldn't sell one hat. Never saw one hat. If he tried. Anyways, let's go to the next story.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Next story I want to get into is a story that's kind of weird, but we have to touch on this. We literally have to touch on this. Mothers, if you're watching this, this story's kind of dedicated to you. And I would encourage you to get a little bit upset and annoyed and talk about it with your friends. Imagine living in the financial capital of the world called New York City, New York State, ran by a mayor, Mamdani, right? Who socialist, communist, communist, he said some stuff that's socialist and communist, Islamists. This is a guy that becomes a mayor.
Starting point is 00:36:32 By the way, he wins fairly. Like, it's not like he cheated to win. He ends up winning. He beats all the other guys. New York City votes for him. Hokel becomes the governor. And now they're talking about two words that they don't want you to be using. Democrats replace mother with justating parent in latest woke rewrite of New York law.
Starting point is 00:36:54 And when I first read this, it wasn't a story for me because I thought it was fake. Like there's no way in the world this is real. Rob, is this the story that you have there? Yes, this is Kathy Hochel asking if she's going to sign this into law. Go for it. Not familiar with what was introduced late last night, so I'll take a look at it. I have until the end of the year to review them and make a decision. so I won't be commenting on pending legislation.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Okay, so let me read this year. New Bill would replace the word mother and father in New York State, child custody and parental laws with gender-neutral language. Mother would be replaced with gestating parent, while father would become non-gestating parent, or simply parent in family court, as well as in domestic and educational law under legislation passed by state Democrats.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Paternity proceedings to determine a child's biological father would become percentage cases under the bill. A putative father would be refuted. referred to as an alleged parent in official records. What a freaking shit show. The legislation was sponsored by Senator Luis Sepovada. It's a great street in LA, but I don't know about this bill. An assemblyman, Amy Paulin, will be sent to Governor Kathyoko for consideration.
Starting point is 00:37:59 It's woke culture run amok. It's one upmanship, says State Conservative Chairman Gerard Kesar. He argued the legislation was unnecessary and predicted it could lead to additional efforts to replace traditional terminology in state law. So imagine people who are considering moving to New York seeing this and saying, do I need this silliness? This is really a weird group of elected officials. It comes out of the left field.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Tom, your thoughts on this story. Well, I'm confused because the way most people in New York, when I'm visiting there, you go to get a cab or whatever, out in front. Vinny, you used to live in New York. The guy comes up to me and says, what's up, Mother Ever? So he has to change it. Now he has to say, what's up, non-gestating effort? It takes a sting out of it.
Starting point is 00:38:45 It takes this thing out of it. It's going to make New York. It's going to make communication in New York a zoo, don't you think? 100%. No, I think this is ridiculous. So when you go, when you go to politically correct, you go straight to politically confusing and ridiculous. When is politically correct where we try not to offend somebody? The whole point of political correctness is not to offend somebody.
Starting point is 00:39:12 The Native Americans were known that way as a group, and there were tribes of Native Americans. So then they go and attack the Washington Redskins. I could see how people potentially were offended by that. But the Cleveland Indians, really? You made the Cleveland Indians, which is a generic term, changed their name. This is where the snowball goes down on political. correctness. And we end at the bottom of ridiculous, and I agree with the Republicans said about one upmanship of ridiculous. Maybe let's find out, Rob, if you want to pull up this guy's
Starting point is 00:39:48 face, so we know, maybe he's a good guy. Maybe Louis Sopova does like, right there. So Louis Sopold, the American attorney politician who currently serves as New York State Senator in 32nd Senate district, which includes the Bronx. Okay. Can we go a little bit? Suppova there's a close ally of Bill de Blasio. Remember Bill de Blasio as a mayor? Go a little bit lower on his past victories and stuff that he's done to protect mothers and fathers. So in 2015, his wife requested an order of protection against him after she alleged that an argument between them turned violent. A restraining order was never issued. In 2021, police responded to a 911 call from Sapovina's wife. When the police arrived, both Subpova and his wife claimed the other had assaulted
Starting point is 00:40:26 them. Later, Sapovita turned in and was arrested allegedly assaulting his wife and was charged with assault in third degree criminal obstruction of breathing and a rap. This can't be the same guy, Rob. It's the same guy. It's no way to war. And by the way. Prosecutors drop charges in August that are following these incidents. Why did they drop them? Andrea Stewart Cousins removed Sepulatha from his committee, chairmanship of crime victims committee and crime and correction committee and elected officials like Nethalia Fernandez and Robert called on him to resign if the alleged were true. He no show to court did not appear in court to represent. at least four clients in 2026.
Starting point is 00:41:02 So this guy's obviously a phenomenal guy when you're looking at some like that. By the way, are we positive this is him? I don't want to get a call and saying this isn't the same guy. This is from the New York Post. This is who they said was the author behind the list. And this is the guy that wants to change it from mother and father to gestating and non-gestating?
Starting point is 00:41:19 Yeah, because he's been kicked off his crime committees where he was trying to fix crime. So now he has to find something to do and he goes politically correct and this is what it is. Wow. Wow. Now, what's his purpose? Is he trying to improve Americans' vocabulary so people know what justating and non-justating means?
Starting point is 00:41:37 What is his purpose? Is he doing this because he literally believes it's offensive to say mother and father? Can I read something to mothers real quick? Mothers, let me just read something to you real quick on how amazing and special you are and the impact you have in kids' lives. I watched this, and I shared it with my wife,
Starting point is 00:41:54 and I thought it was a beautiful story of mothers and daughters and daughters. When I was 17 years old, this girl says, I called my mom at 1.47 a.m. from a party I wasn't supposed to be at, surrounded by people she didn't even know. I said only, I need you to come and pick me up, mom. She replied, I'm on my way. No question. Not then. Not during the drive. Never. I thought she was angry. She wasn't. She arrived in 12 minutes. That meant she had left the house immediately. She got I got into the car wearing the same clothes, she had been sleeping in, and drove across the city at 2 a.m. to pick me up from a party she didn't even know existed. I got into the car, she looked at me just once, then she drove on in silence. The drive home was silent, not tense, just silent.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I kept waiting for the questions, where were you? Who were all those people? Why did you lie to me? But they never came. She simply turned the radio down low and drove the way she always did. And if I wasn't in trouble as if it were just an ordinary night. When we got home, she opened the door and said, drink some water before you go to bed.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Then she went to her room, and that was it. That was the end of it. I stayed awake all night, waited for morning, waiting for the lecture, but morning came. She made X for breakfast and simply asked what I wanted to do that day. ever since I became a mother myself, I've often thought back to that night, and I think about what my mom understood then that I didn't.
Starting point is 00:43:32 She knew only one thing. I had called her, and that was enough. I was somewhere I wasn't supposed to be, but in that moment I chose her. I called her, my mom. And to her, that meant everything. Nothing else mattered. She would never have punished me for making that call.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Now I have a daughter of my own, and there's one thing I tell her, more than almost anything else. I will always come and get you. No questions ask, no matter where you are. No matter what you told me before, just call me and I'll come. That's what my mom taught me. She never said it with words.
Starting point is 00:44:08 She simply showed up for me at 147 a.m. That's how she taught me. Several years later, I called her. I told her I still remembered that night. She said, she was quiet for a moment and then said, I was just happy that you call me, sweetheart. That was all. And even today, more than 20 years later, those words still bring tears to my eyes. Call her. She'll come for you. And she'll always be glad that you called her no matter the hour.
Starting point is 00:44:35 No matter the hour. You know what I love this story? This is, can you imagine like the word mother, the word mom? Like when I see my kids, mommy, mom. The other day, Tick was asking a question, what do you think is more appropriate? You think it's mother, mommy, or mom? I said, you tell me which one thing? do you think? And they're kind of going through it. It says, I guess if I get older, I don't know if it's mommy. It gets its mom. I don't want to call mother. And then go to father, daddy. There's something special by calling your mom for help. There's something special for that woman to be that when you tell me stories about your mother, Vinnie. And by the way, just so everybody knows, Vinny's relationship with his mom, his mom calls him every day. They talk to each other every day.
Starting point is 00:45:15 It's all love. It's all how much she believes, how much she encourages, how much she just wants to serve this guy. Right. There's something special. about mothers out there. And the great state of New York is thinking about us not being able to use the most magical word in the world, which is what? Mother and the second most magical word in the world, which is what? Father. Can't say it, Vinnie.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Moving forward, when you call your mom today, justating. You call your, you call your pops. Rob, you call your pops. How you doing Mr. Nongestating? I'm sorry, what? By the way, I'm going to call my dad today when I call him. I'm going to be like, hey, how are you doing as a non-justating person? My dad's going to be like, mo'at-it.
Starting point is 00:45:58 I'm just-ating, muil al-a-ha-ha. What do you think about the story, Vinny? The madness. First, we're talking about New York. Nothing that comes out of this place surprised me, Pat. And again, they're constantly trying to remove the family, the bond, the oneness. And it's like with everything that's happening in New York, with the taxes, the garbage in the street, everything. Oh, the people coming out of the sewers, this is what your tax dollars is going to.
Starting point is 00:46:25 This is in court, right, Tom? They're fighting this in court. Lawyers, your tax dollars, New Yorkers, are going for this. And I absolutely love that story, Pat. And I call her every single day. If I'm not calling her, she's calling me, I'll be damned if you're going to take away that thing from us. And New Yorkers, I mean, how much more do you have to freaking put up with to understand that they don't care? These people are just trying to change.
Starting point is 00:46:48 the number one thing for them, I think, is getting rid of the nuclear family. That's it. That's it. Get rid of it. And this is just one more step pat, chopping that down, just stating whatever. It's like, give me a freaking break. Adam. It's a joke. Well, Vinnie, I got to thank Vinny for helping me to remind me to call my mother. The relationship that Vinny has with his mother is like no other. And it's making me appreciate my mother even more. I don't know if you could show this picture. This is the double date I went on about a month ago.
Starting point is 00:47:16 A hell late. Great dinner. Vinny brought his mom. Yeah. I brought my mom. Yeah. And at the end of the dinner, we switch mom. And I love you, mom. So dumb.
Starting point is 00:47:26 And I love you, sweet Lana. But look, one of the things they say about the Republican Party in our MAGA is they say, you know, they kind of lost their way. But my response to the Democratic Party is, well, you guys have lost your minds. And in politics, they, you know, especially when Trump won in 2024, we said at the beginning of the election, listen, the least crazy party. party is going to win. And then what happened? With the help of our friend Charlie Kirk, Trump released that ad. Kamala is for they, them, and Trump is for you. And what happened? That ad worked. I think they spent on millions, millions of dollars on that ad. What a great app. It was incredible. I remember it. But here's what's going to happen. All these terms that are used to feel
Starting point is 00:48:10 inclusive. Like I remember the first time because I'm a guy's like, you're, you're a cis male, right? I said, what, cis male? I said, I don't even know what this means. They go, yeah, what's your, your pronoun that you like to be described by? What's your identity? I'm like, I have no clue what you're talking. Cis male means like you have a sister? No.
Starting point is 00:48:28 No, it means that you're a naturally born male with a penis. I think if somebody says cis male like you have a sister, that's what I thought. I would be like, you know what, that's cool. I said, you just offended me, sir. CIS. CIS. I said, you just offended me. But then I started realizing these terms.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Do you remember that when Josh Hawley, I think got an argument, he said, Did you say birthing person? What's a birthing person? What's a menstruating person? Who are pregnant people? I mean, do you just mean women? Yeah, no, no, no. Some women don't breastfeed, they chest feed.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I'm like, that's a dude. Like, what are we doing right here? Or instead of men or cis men, they say people who have sperm. So all these stupid-ass terms, you're like, what is happening here? And the reality is, this is the pinpoint thing that makes people say, maybe there's things I agree with the Democratic Party on, but they've completely gone insane on this.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And then here's my final point. Just because Trump won in 2024, this is not going away. This is going to reverberate and be back. In 2028, this woke, trans agenda, birthing person, mentoring person, if they don't get rid of it, this will ruin their party. And you know what? Good.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Rooned their party. The Democratic Party. By the way, did you say? see the Harry Anton video that came out about the Democratic Party on how people feel the Democratic parties are cooler rating. It's the lowest
Starting point is 00:49:52 ever. I don't know if you have that Congressional Democrats. Congressional Democrat to be specific. Thank you, Tom. Congressional Democrats. Harry Anting came up with this chart and he showed it. I don't know if that's the one or not. There it is. Go ahead, Rob. House Democrats, in fact, lose their primary
Starting point is 00:50:07 in 2026. Look at this. 68%. I look back at every single cycle that I could find that was not a post-census redistricting cycle, and the highest I could find in terms of Democrats losing, get this, was only three. So this would actually beat it. Democratic angst against the establishment and an all-time high, I think in large part driven by the fact that Joe Biden is so unpopular, and therefore you have just this great distrust of the Dem establishment. This is what year? This is recent that just came out? This is the bottom.
Starting point is 00:50:41 This is the same thing. But as of June 4, Pat's referencing something just from three days ago. But this is the same trend line. This is insane. I am shocked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:49 They have not fired Harry Anthony yet. Well, they have to. All he does is go, all right, you're ready for this? Democrats suck. And then you just see all these people, like these anchors are like, oh, yeah, thanks.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Harry. I mean, you've got to give CNN at least a little. Harry, for having him on the air still. Let's go. Let's go to the next story, which is this guy named Planter, New York time, Platner. Graham Platner, who apparently is running for Senate,
Starting point is 00:51:16 and the more and more he's in there, some stuff is coming out about this guy. That's absolutely weird. One of them is the fact that he had a tattoo, he had a tattoo of a, what, swastick of a concentration camp. It's a Nazi SS units concentration camp guard. And he had it for 18 years. Almost two decades he had in the only reason he removed it, Pat,
Starting point is 00:51:36 because he's running for office. That's it. He covered it up. The toting golf. and cough. I remember the first time I heard this. He has a Nazi tattoo. I was like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:51:45 He's a Nazi. Like he has a swastika? And I looked at it. I go, that doesn't look like a swastika. And they go, oh, no, no, no, no. It's actually worse than a swastika. That's like the top military SS. Prison guards.
Starting point is 00:51:56 The people that were the most responsible for murdering literally millions of people, that's the tattoo he got. And look, I'll give him a little bit of grace. Maybe you didn't know. Maybe you didn't have an idea. you had it for 18 years, dude. At some point you didn't realize maybe this isn't what American values are?
Starting point is 00:52:18 I give you credit for giving the grace. Like, I don't know how you could do it, but Adam, the tattoo artist, you, people going, yo, dude, you know what you're about to put on your chest forever. Forever. So anyway, so this guy's running. What is that clip rob?
Starting point is 00:52:33 So I have a bunch of Democrats. I have Rokana. I have Bernie Sanders. I don't, and I also have John Federman all speaking on it. The first two, defend him. John Federman goes after. Rob, what's the story? What pages the story about him and the three women? Where is that one? Because there's a story of three women that came out.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Addendum 3, Maine Senate, candidate, Graham. Okay, let me read this to you because this is the part you have to know about where this guy's at. So this guy, Graham, you know, story comes out. Graham Platner, a Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate, has rejected an explosive new report about his treatment of women, and insisting the allegation of abusive behavior or politically motivated, Plattner, progressive running for election in Maine, was responding to New York Times article
Starting point is 00:53:16 that included an interview with a Republican operative who accused them of womanizing physical misconduct and making trouble comments about rape. There are some allegations in that piece that are simply not true. Anything alleging physicality, anything alleging, I knew what my tattoo was, these are the statements of somebody politically motivated.
Starting point is 00:53:35 So you put a tattoo on your body that you don't know what it was? That's what he's saying. Come on. By the way, if you are a person that puts a tattoo on your body that you don't know what it is, you want the state to trust you to make decisions that you're not going to know what they are. So you can't use that argument. The New York Times said its report was based on interviews when more than two dozen people,
Starting point is 00:53:53 including Lindsay Fifth Field, Fifeield, whom the paper described as a Virginia conservative who has worked for far-right-leaning groups and Republican campaigns. Shev dated Plattner from 2013 to 2015 and found him, cavalierly contemptuous of women in 2016 diary entry. She described him as the most toxic, literally abusive man on earth who destroyed my life. She alleged that Platon frequently grabbed her by the shoulders and once yanked her out of a taxi by her wrist. The article continued during one argument. She recalled he twisted her arm behind her back, shoved her into a bedroom,
Starting point is 00:54:30 held the door closed from the other side so she couldn't get out, telling her to remain there until she was calm. Fifeield further recalled that Platner would sharpen an axe while watching TV and left an AR-15 lying around in a Washington apartment. She has said he described women as hatchet wounds and repeatedly asserted if anybody ever broke in here, I would rape them. He said this. Fifeld told the paper he was like, I would, he said this, I would rape them.
Starting point is 00:54:58 This is Plattner saying this, to show them that I'm dominant. What a weird guy. And what's this Roecona defending him, Rob? Yes, sir. Go forward. Look at this. See, Tattoo was something that he owned up to. He said it was a mistake.
Starting point is 00:55:11 He did it when he was signing up to serve this country and the military. And I guess I have a view of redemption. Oh, he has unequivocally owned up to it, said that it was wrong that he learned from it. And the question is, are we going to believe in redemption? By the way, can you go, Rob to Professor Galloway? These are credible people. Would he give that same? to Trump.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Never will. In a million years. You're right. Watch this with Professor Galloway. Go ahead. Every election is a choice, not a marriage proposal. We're not hiring a priest. We're hiring a senator.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Do you want to make sure that women's rights aren't continued to be rolled back? Do you want a more responsible economic policy? Do you want different approaches to labor that raise the wages of nurses and students? Do you want something regarding fiscal sanity? do you want to stop, have a check against the unfettered, unprecedented corruption? So we're going to talk about tattoos and sexting. What? I mean, the obsession with personal purity has become a luxury belief.
Starting point is 00:56:16 So you can pause. By the way, a person can have this position. This is a very smart, successful man. I've had him on. We've had great conversations together. Very successful man. However, you can't say this, but at the same time, repeatedly discussing Trump's marriage,
Starting point is 00:56:32 Indeality, allegations, personal conduct, and public behavior in the context of leadership and masculinity on podcast saying he's not, he doesn't have what it takes to be a president, questioning his character, temperament, ethics, an example for young men rather than solely on policy. So if you take that position, you have to take that position across the board with everybody. Then there's hypocrisy. If you do that. And what's this year, Rob? This is Batya-Angar-Sagon. Go for it. His father's whole family was murdered in the Sobi-Bor concentration camp.
Starting point is 00:57:01 She's phenomenal. Grand Platter doesn't just have a Nazi tattoo. For 18 years, he had a tattoo of the concentration camp guards on his chest, and he knew what it was. He knew what it was. And to hear people compare that to anything else in the public sphere in America is insane, and it is insanely offensive. These people who are defending him called me and every other MAGA person a Nazi for 10 years,
Starting point is 00:57:31 because we voted for someone who we thought would improve the lives of working class Americans, and now they are lining up and defending a guy who had a Nazi tattoo, which he knew about, for 18 years. It is so insane to act like anything Donald Trump did, was anywhere close to having a totten cup on his chest for 18 years. This guy is a Nazi, and Democrats are lining up behind him because they think he can win. I mean, she's got a point there. Vinny, your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Guys, you cannot make this up. I mean, they put the hip Democrats in hypocrisy. This is the same party that for 10 years said that Trump was a woman abusing, fascist, Hitler, Nazi, and anybody that got close to him, anybody that donated, like Elon, when we were there at the inauguration, did his signal, like showing that he loved everybody. Everybody around them is a Nazi. Now you have an actual dude that's a Nazi.
Starting point is 00:58:30 that's wearing the freaking tattoo his whole life and no, but everything's okay. And the abusing women. Rob, can you please show me the Roecona tweet? What about the women, Ro? What about all the women that you tweeted about? Don't you believe all women? Yeah, look at that.
Starting point is 00:58:45 That's him. I believe Dr. Christine Blasey Ford. I believe Deborah Ramirez. I believe Anita Hill. Brett Kavanaugh should not be in Supreme Court. Where's that same attitude? I love, I love these people that post on Twitter. It all comes back and we have the receipts for all of you.
Starting point is 00:58:59 All right. And Pat, also, in regard to Graham, reports showed that his comments, blaming rape victims, balking a wounded Purple Heart veteran as a dumb mother, you know what. What's that word, Tom? Not the mother, the one that used that. A breastating. Justating mother, gestating. He didn't deserve to live, insulting army soldiers as fat, lazy trash, and promoting communist ideology and political violence, okay? Anybody on the right, any Republican, they are done. But because he's a Democrat, suddenly everybody wants to pretend, that none of it freaking matters.
Starting point is 00:59:30 And Chuck Schumer, Rob, you're about to do it. Mind you guys, this is a Jewish senator, all right, congressman, all right? He doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:59:38 As long as Democrats keep power, he doesn't care if this guy actually wore the whole freaking Nazi outfit and showed up, bro. Play this clip. How can working at your local Tims
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Starting point is 00:59:59 Not said if you're still endorsing Grand Platner. Are you still supporting Grand Platt? As I said, I endorsed Grand Patner. We're going to take back, we're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate. Thank you. How disgraceful is that? A Jewish guy saying, listen, yeah, he supports Nazis. Yeah, he had that tattoo.
Starting point is 01:00:19 But listen, anything to win, we don't care. That's the Democratic Party in a nutshell. We're going to take back the Senate. His last words. That's the point. Yeah, because sadly enough, the Democratic Party doesn't, They don't have principles at this point. They just care about power.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And you're willing to look the other way. Here's my question. Because I think that all this is a symptom of a way bigger problem. Why is it that every new, famous Democratic candidate has an asterisk next to their name? Why? No, they're just, it's candidate who is a communist, candidate who is an Islamist, candidate who is a trans, this Tala Rico guy who thinks God is a trans person. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Now you have the Marxist left in California. and now you have a literal Nazi sympathizer in Maine and the Democratic Party goes, that's our guy. We love them. But at the same time, aren't you the party that keeps accusing Trump of being a Nazi?
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yet you're going to an elect and push for somebody with a Nazi tattoo. And by the way, he's not a fringe character at this point. Do you know where he just was recently? On the cover of Time magazine? Who, Graham was? Graham was?
Starting point is 01:01:28 Grand Platner. You can pull that up. Oh, God. By the way, he's out there parading with Bernie. He's trying to, quote, unquote, fight the oligarchy. On the cover of Time magazine Party Cratcher, here you go. The rise of scandal-plagued Democrat Graham Platner, and the entire party goes, yeah, we like this oyster farmer.
Starting point is 01:01:47 What is an oyster farmer, by the way? Please enlighten me on that. So they're labeling him. Oyster farmer. Wasn't that saving private Ryan? What was saving? Oh, that's shrimp. A shrimp boat.
Starting point is 01:01:58 That's bo' gun. Forgive my... Forgive my... That's liberal. But they're basically calling this guy Obama for whites. But here's the problem I have with the Democratic Party. It's becoming very, very clear
Starting point is 01:02:11 that the Democratic Party, all they do is they hate the white, straight male patriarchy. So now you're going to vote for this guy in Maine, because they probably have four black people in Maine. Here's the most ironic part. Do you know what Senator in the Republican
Starting point is 01:02:27 Party has voted against Trump, the most Susan Collins. Oh, really? The person he's running against. So it's not like he's running against some Trump sycophant who all she does is vote for Trump. She basically votes against Trump more than anybody. So you can't even use the whole narrative of like
Starting point is 01:02:45 she's just a Trump sycophant. All she does is vote for Trump. Her whole notion is that she sort of is the most moderate or even liberal conservative, if that makes any sense. But it just affirms one last thing. Democrats are willing to look the entire different wrong way as long as you say, dude, we don't care if you're a Marxist, isomist,
Starting point is 01:03:08 communist, trans, woke agenda. Do you hate Trump or not? He goes, I solemnly swear to hate Trump. Boom, Nazi tattooing you, you're part of the party. That's the problem with the Democratic Party. Wasn't Susan Collins one of the ones that... What did it, J6? Yeah, J6. No, no, she vote.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Not just J6. She's one of the ones... No, no. She's one of the ones that voted against Save America Act. She just voted against it yesterday. This is what she does. This is who she is. She and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska are buddies, and they are the two problem children when you're trying to get the Republican vote in the Senate.
Starting point is 01:03:45 And you know what? This is what's interesting. You're starting to see people on the right, big, big names, starting to endorse Susan Collins for the first time in 20 years. They say, listen, I mean, big names, you know all the names. they say I've never endorsed this woman. She's a rhino. What do they call that, Rino?
Starting point is 01:04:03 Republican a name only. So all these people are basically this is the first time that I'm going to endorse Susan Collins just because they want to anoint this Nazi loving guy. That's the Democratic Party. Let's talk about a guy
Starting point is 01:04:15 that has got different kind of problems he's dealing with, but he's staying cool, calm, and collected. And that's Michael Saylor, who's $10 billion dollar Bitcoin hole. What does strategy do now? I don't know if you guys have seen this. Bitcoin is down now,
Starting point is 01:04:27 50% of its high. high that it hit. I don't know what the numbers right now. It could be between 59 to $61,000. It's at $60,000. As of right now, if you go max, go to five years, Rob, look at the peak right there, go all the way to the peak, 2125, 120 something. Yes. So it's down 50% from its peak. Just last fall. That's right. Just last fall. And so Strategy Inc is facing renewed scrutiny as a company faces an unprecedented $10 billion of unrealized loss on its Bitcoin holding marketing commentator Kyle argued on Exx on June 4th that the company's preferred shared dividend obligations could turn Michael's sailor from Bitcoin's biggest buyer into potential for seller. The company's Bitcoin accumulation model worked while the company funded purchases through equity issues,
Starting point is 01:05:11 convertible notes and other financing tools that did not require near-term cash payments. The concern now is that strategies newer preferred shared products, including NASDAQ's STRC, carry yield obligation. Strategy owns roughly 4% of Bitcoin's total. supply. Making a balance sheet, one of the biggest swing factors in crypto markets. Kyle argued that earlier strategy financing was easier for bulls to defend because common equity has no guaranteed return. The company could sell the stock, but Bitcoin and rely on BTC's long-term appreciation to support share price. Preferred shares changes the math, he said. Tom, your thoughts on this. So I take us back into history. You know, let's go back to Elon Musk's
Starting point is 01:05:56 difficult and painful 2018. Remember when we talked about Elon Musk? Oh my gosh, the debt's coming due. He has so much debt on the gigafactories. And he's doing this to build batteries. He's doing all this. And he's spending all this thing. And he went down and he's trying to build a launch pad at the end of Texas.
Starting point is 01:06:12 What's he going to do? And remember all this, Adam? You remember this? We talked about this. All of a sudden, guess who will show up? Middle East financiers show up. Or he comes up with a bond and shows up. Great entrepreneurs find a way out. Right here, the real question, question isn't, oh my gosh, is he going to sell the Bitcoin is going to crash? Maybe that happens.
Starting point is 01:06:31 What happens if the market crashes tomorrow and Bitcoin bounces back to 115 or 120 or beyond it? What if Bitcoin gets to 140 because our own Senate can't get out of its own way and we can't get things passed and we have this debt and we have all the things going on and we have the inflation spike statistics get used and Kevin Warsh is forced to actual raise rates, which I don't think is a good idea. What happens of all this happens? You know what happens? Guess what? The market's going to crash. It's going to be tough. And what a Bitcoin bounces back is the alternative asset at that point.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Where's Michael Saylor then? I think people are talking here are just, you know, they love to point at him. He was the first balance sheet company, right? Where the Bitcoin on the balance sheet is really the reason to own the stock. Yeah. You know, I bet that's how I feel, Pat. I think people are making a lot out of this. The math they're doing is correct.
Starting point is 01:07:29 He does have dividends to hit. But I remember 2018, how hard it was for Elon Musk, you know, and how he had to go back. And in 2018, but guess what? He found financing partners. He got it done. He then achieved the launches on SpaceX. He launched more Starlings. He figured out great entrepreneurs find a way to get it done.
Starting point is 01:07:53 And I think Michael Saylor will find a way. to figure out the financing and to figure out what he's going to do on this. Because guess what? If a stock goes down, if you owned 100 shares of NVIDIA, let's say a month ago, and you bought them at 230, I think three weeks ago, two weeks ago it was like 230. And now today it's like at 220 and you own 100 chairs. I lost a little. On paper, you're down 20 bucks.
Starting point is 01:08:18 It's not 211 this morning. It's down 746. I'm buying. Right. But do you see my pay? You're holding the shares of you bought for 230. InVVVVV. You bought them for 230 and go back one month.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Just go one month. There should be at 230 in there. There it is. So you bought it at 2.305. And yet today it's here. But you're holding the share. Until you sell it. There's no loss and there's no gain.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Got you. And so Michael Saylor's got to find his way out of this. True. He owns 840,000 bitcoins in his company. And he owns 17,000 to 18,000. personally. So personally, versus the company. You know, if Bitcoin goes to a million dollars, his network's around $100 billion, give or take. So this guy's banking on it long term. And by the way, to be in the business you're in, you have to be cool. What do they say? Cool as a
Starting point is 01:09:09 cucumber? You have to be so cool. He's got the right. Imagine somebody that panics, anxiety, all that stuff. If you're going through it right now, sell all of it. Sell it all. You have to be able to be like him. By the way, some people, this guy's either going to be one of the richest people in the world that's going to lose it all. Okay? And we'll see what side it's going to go. Adam,
Starting point is 01:09:27 thoughts. Look, I think Michael Saylor is going to have the last laugh here to all the people, all the haters out there who are basically saying, you know, he's the poorest guy in the world. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Give it a couple months. Let's see who wins here. Because, you know, it's always the people that don't have Bitcoin or that don't have money that want to hate on the people that have money.
Starting point is 01:09:46 That's kind of how it works. And there's also people on the flip side of things, what I call the get-rich quick crowd. What people are learning here is that Bitcoin is no longer the get rich quick, right? There's a term in Bitcoin in the crypto world. It's called Hodle, Hodle, HODL, hold on for dear life. I guess some guy thought it was hold and huddled, and that's what I ended up doing with Bitcoin. And everything that you end up
Starting point is 01:10:10 buying at any single point, if I see it's, you know, buy low, sell high, or just hoddle. So I bought Bitcoin, I think, at 10,000, then at 20,000. By the way, you know who also did that? Michael Saylor. Michael Saylor bought it, I think, in early 2000s, I'm sorry, early 2020, bought it at 11,000, then he bought it for 10,000, then he bought it for 19,000, then he bought it for 20, then he bought it for 30, and then a lot of what he bought in the last few years, last year or so has been in the 70,000 range. Now, when you're buying it 70, which essentially it's a little bit lower now, you think you're going to, it's going to go to 140, you think it's going to go to 200, you think it's going to go to a million one day.
Starting point is 01:10:47 and I'm thankful that every single time that Michael Saylor came on the show because it's been at least three or four times, I bought another Bitcoin. By the way, way lower it is now. So I say, thank you, Michael Saylor. Here's my message to the people out there. I'm not the smartest guy when it comes to investing,
Starting point is 01:11:01 but I know this. There's short, medium, and long-term investments. There's low-risk, medium-risk, high-risk. Just to understand your asset allocation. I always keep what they call dry powder. Just cash. Straight up, I always keep a significant amount of cash. then I have my short-term investments for basically five years,
Starting point is 01:11:20 and then I have my long-term investments for retirement. And then here's the point. I have my risky investments, my Go-Go account. And that enabled me to buy Bitcoin, buy risky investments, by Ethereum. And you know what? That's the money that a lot of entrepreneurs use to start other businesses. That's the money that Elon Musk used from Tesla to start SpaceX. And that's the money that a lot of entrepreneurs use to start other companies.
Starting point is 01:11:44 So to me, all the haters out there that are wishing for this guy's demise, I think he's going to get the last laugh. I think so as well. But again, Tom said something. If all of a sudden, shit hits the fan and inflation, market goes in a certain way because this war continues and there's costs and all that other stuff, in three months, six months, Bitcoin could go to $130,000. And everyone's going to say, holy shit, what happened to that guy?
Starting point is 01:12:10 That could happen. I think that's more of a likelihood than it's going down to 20 or 30. We don't know. If you look at the cyclical cycle of Bitcoin, go to the five-year cycle of Bitcoin. And if you just kind of see what's going on, and then remember, I don't want to speak out of pocket because this is not my world. So I'm not a Bitcoin guy. But the Bitcoin guys, if you study it, watch what happened right there in 2022. Can you go to the 21, 22, all the way to the back right there, right there.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Peak, peak up 21, Rob. Right, 64,000. Then go to exactly where 23 is. What's that? 16,000. So I went from 63, 64,000 to 16. That's it dropped 75%. Then it went from 16 to what?
Starting point is 01:12:47 Go to the peak all the way at the top, which is 120 to 125. So it goes 16 to 122. That's what, 8x, 9x. And then it dropped to what, to 60. And to be honest with you, it can go all the way down to 30,000. Just so you know, if it does what it did before, it goes to 30,000, but then 30 can turn into what? 250. So this is the part that if you're in it long term, you're in it long term.
Starting point is 01:13:10 If you're not, just step out. If you can't handle the stress tax. comes with it, do not invest in these types of things. Let me get to the next story. Story comes out on Wall Street Journal just today, if not yesterday, Tom. And Anthropic, Rob, if you want to pull this up. And the story is about them talking about, it may not be a bad idea to put a pause on AI. Wait, what? Yeah. Anthropic urges global pause and AI development flags self-improvement risk. The $1 trillion startup warns artificial intelligence models are nearing capability to improve without human intervention.
Starting point is 01:13:45 If you want to go a little bit lower, and there's a part that they say about scientists. A quick summary, Anthropics suggest that top AI considers just a limited one, got an anthropic, recently concluded in fundraising that value trillion dollars. David Sachs, venture capital is accused Anthropic of a regulatory capture agenda to slow competitor AI advances. Rob, can you type in science? And you know what that means, David Sachs. What David is trying to say is, and I'll get to that, some scholars, at former chiefs on the meta performance of AI.
Starting point is 01:14:13 No, can you type in science, keep going with the ward to the next section. I'm going to the future, near future, and future in future, and that's a bit of science, go to the next one, Rob. Maybe this is the one that Connor sent it to me. I don't know if you know which one I'm talking about. Connor send me a text in this. Let me read this.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Is that it? AI systems that can advance themselves known as full recursive self-improvement could have the potential for a great good for science and healthcare. They also pose great risks for humanity, according to a blog post, written by Maria Favaro, leader of Anthropic Institute. So a part of David Sacks, Tom, if you can correct me on this, my interpretation of what David Sacks is saying of Anthropics' position is, Oh, now that you're at a trillion, you have a big lead.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Now you want regulation. Now you want it. Because you got such a big market share, now you want to regulate. So you make it tougher for the smaller. This is the one I'm looking for. Yes, we read the science fiction and watched science fiction here as well. They're talking about it anthropic. So it's not lost on us.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Clark responded. How do you maintain control over fleets of scientists that are much, much larger and much faster than ones you've had before? How do you compete against them? Sachs is saying if you regulate, the smaller guy can't come in, so the barrier to entry becomes tougher for them. And now that the bigger players, it almost becomes like a nationalized AI leaders, right?
Starting point is 01:15:49 It's like all the business goes to a handful of banks, all the other smaller banks, let's let him go out of business. Too big to fail. That's kind of what David Sachs is arguing against, if I'm not mistaken, that let's not regulate yet. Let's let the smaller guys compete. Tom, what are your thoughts about the story? I'm in the David Sachs camp because it's called RCI recursive self-improvement.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Recursive, just think of it this way. You ask AI to build you a simple app. And then you say, keep testing and improving it. And the AI is going to say, to what standard, to what number, to what do you want me to do? Do you want me to keep testing and improving this until you have whatever? Now, that's good for drugs if you're doing, you know, chemical analysis, chemical impact analysis, and you say, test it, then test it, then test it, and change it. That's recursive self-improvement. So recursive self-improvement was going to get here.
Starting point is 01:16:45 You were going to have it building software, testing software, and then improve that based on the test, then do it again. Well, the parent model that's being used there, let's say opus 4.8, is fine, and it's doing that. but it has the limit of Opus 4.8. And recursive self-improvement is just part of AI. That's what AI is doing. When they say you get to that, well, we're kind of here. And I agree with it. Oh, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:17:15 You know, one person ran the four-minute mile so no one else can wear sneakers. So, okay, wait a minute, wait a minute. It means you're permanently in a lead. So I know that there's several camps in Silicon Valley. We have to remember this where David Sack comes from. is you have a camp that says, oh, Dario left in the name of safety, but now he's not really on safety. Remember, he left open AI with his sister in the name of safety. Oh, now it's not safety anymore. You're king. You've got a 500 billion coming from the Middle
Starting point is 01:17:47 East, and you've raised all this too. So I think there's some truth to that. But I think what we all have to be aware of is that the pace of change in AI is it only exists. accelerating. I'm looking at opus 4-6, six months ago. Now I use Opus 4-8 for certain things. You can see the improvement. It's happening fast. And so the fact that now it could improve itself or improve models while it's running, you know, I don't think you step in and regulate it at this point. I think you regulate output, right? You didn't like cars with certain mileage, so we regulated pollution out the tailpipe, and you have a catalytic converter. But capitalist could build whatever engines they wanted as long as you didn't pollute.
Starting point is 01:18:36 So I think there's going to be an end result. Do you see what I mean? There's an end result. Let's regulate the end result, but then let everybody compete on what they build. Look, I think everyone has a right to be a little confused, unsure, pessimistic, a little scared of whatever AI is. is and what it can do. Totally understand that. Because I think all of us are like, what's going on here?
Starting point is 01:19:02 You see college graduates. Anytime AI has brought up, you've seen this, they just start booing uncontrollably. So I'm not pretending to know what's going on. Here's what I do know. Do we think China is stopping this AI race? Do we think that China is going to be like, hey, guys, let's just pause. Let's figure this things out. Wait for America to catch up with us.
Starting point is 01:19:24 All I know is that China wants to eat our lunch and take over the world. So if that means we need to continue doing what we're doing by becoming the best and the greatest at this particular thing, then we need to do that, whether that's becoming the best of the military, what's becoming the best at space exploration, every single component of society, we need to be better than China or they're going to overtake us and they're going to overlap us. So to me, if China's not stopping or if they're not being regulated, then I'm worried about that. Last point I'll say is this. Do you see what Bernie's trying to do now? You see what Elizabeth Warren? is trying to do now? Bernie, like a typical communist, he's basically saying, you know what I want to do? You know what I want to do? I want to tax them 50%. What do you mean? Yeah, I just want to take all their wealth and take all their ideas because they use other people's ideas to improve their products. You mean like everyone in human history is stand on the shoulders of giants and use other people's
Starting point is 01:20:20 ideas to improve their product? So my default answer, do the opposite of whatever the Bernies of the world are recommending. Rob, you want to pull up that AI story with Sanders, the 50% is this it? Let's transition into that. Go ahead. By the way, it's minute 57. Does he get right into it? Yeah. Go for it. The foundation of AI is based on our collective human intelligence. Our books, songs, artwork, journalism, computer code, scientific research, videos, conversations, images, ideas spanning generations. The reality is that big tech oligarchs have fed this knowledge into their AI models without permission. So he wants 50% without permission. Without permission, without acknowledgement, and without compensation, is what he saying? Okay, go to what does Elizabeth Warren say? Because they're
Starting point is 01:21:18 both talking about this. This is an issue they're both talking about. Is she getting right into it as well? Go forward. We're going to build an AI future that works for every then we need to tax AI and invest in people. Taxing AI raises the money. We need to deliver universal health care. So if millions of workers get fired because of AI, those workers don't go bankrupt just from a visit to the doctor. You can pause it right there, Rob.
Starting point is 01:21:46 And by the way, so that's the fear. And remember, don't forget, like we're sitting here, bash and let you say Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, you know who said very soon there's going to be? going to be UBI? Guess who said very soon there's going to be UBI? Elon Musk said there's going to be UBI. Not even UBI, universal high income. Yeah, yeah, yeah. U.H. That's right. But meaning, so if it's going to be U.H.I, where's that money going to come from? So you have to know, like, as much as we take shots here, this is Elon. Go forward. So I think the most likely outcome is one where is one of
Starting point is 01:22:23 abundance where goods and services are available to anyone. There is no shortage of goods and services for anyone on earth. I think that is the most likely outcome. So it wouldn't be universal basic income. It would be universal high income. Work will be optional. Work optional, yes. Will you work?
Starting point is 01:22:50 I'll try to work, yeah. Now, this may sound great, but I think... If AI is doing everything, yeah. Meaning, I will try to be competitive, but I think that's going to be so much better than me, even Elon Musk. I'll try to work. So, great point. Let it keep going. Let it keep going, Rob.
Starting point is 01:23:09 That's the point of doing things. So that's, I think there will be a bit of a sort of existential crisis. So pause it right there. By the way, this is a reasonable guy that's saying this. Oh, yeah. So if you look at Elon and... Bernie and Elizabeth Warren, Tom, and you're looking at the positions they're taking, you know what makes you think about is either it would be the job of the companies
Starting point is 01:23:35 to take care of local people or it'll be a job of the nation, which means what? The government. So, for instance, for me, I think university system is going to be broken. We talked about this a couple days ago, a couple weeks ago when a story came out that MBAs are in a fire cell. I think it was a Wall Street Journal story. We talked about that two weeks or something like that on what's going on with it. And I said companies are going to start offering university courses themselves
Starting point is 01:23:59 that they're going to give that education to you because they don't want to wait. They want to be like, no, I'll bring them in, I'll teach them, right? I think some of these companies locally, say if you're a headquartered and you have 20,000 employees, hypothetically, and the local unemployment goes to 14%. What is your number one priority as an employer? It's to make sure when employees go home, how do they feel? I remember having an office in Granada Hills, right off to 4 or 5 freeway in Devonshire. at that Sunshine Realty building.
Starting point is 01:24:25 And Vero, my assistant at the time, would try to go in her car. And one day she comes back up. She says, there's guys downstairs selling coke and drugs with guns. And I said, what are you talking about? It was 10.30 at night. I walked her downstairs,
Starting point is 01:24:35 and those guys are down, okay, what are you guys doing? Hey, blah, blah, blah. It got a little bit crazy. And then eventually we had to figure out what to do with that. My job is to make sure Vero was safe. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:43 The employee, like, we just build a 10-foot wall. You know how much that cost us? How long did it take? You guys have been watching. Rob, how long did it take this to build? Yeah. By the way, you know how much that cost to build that wall? I don't know what's going to cost this much money to build a 10-foot wall at an 11-acre property.
Starting point is 01:24:58 So we're feeling safer. How much safer you feel you feel when you're on the campus right now? How do you feel right now when you're on the campus? Rob, how do you feel when you're over here? 100%. Yeah. So the employer's job is to make sure your employees feel safe. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:11 So if all of a sudden locally, unemployment goes to 14% and you have 20,000 jobs, guess what the employer may be saying. Hey, we made $88 billion of profits last year. What can we do to locally help out our community? But then go to some cities that that company with 20,000 jobs with 88 billion dollars of profits doesn't exist. Then what do you do? Then you have to go to municipalities.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Then you have to go to the state, the federal. That's what the argument is going to be made. So I think my concern is the moment a 27-year-old young man doesn't have the ability to marry a woman, have kids, buy a house, and have three plus kids, we have a problem. The moment that can't happen. So no matter what we do, we have to always solve, I remember when we were selling the insurance company, and I warned my guys regularly. Warned my guys regularly, and here's what it was. Every day I get up and I think about how we can make the insurance company, Ph.P, better for a new agent.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Let me say that one more time, new agent, not the oldest agent. Because if the opportunity is no longer good for the new agent, and you just keep getting ways of making the comp better for the old people that have been around a long time, what do you not attract? You don't attract new agents. You're dead. You're dead. So if we can't get 27, 28-year-old men that are making enough money,
Starting point is 01:26:36 have pride, to have kids, and to buy a house, two and a half, three-plus kids, we're in deep doo-do. So we got to be thinking about how to solve for that. And so as much as I want innovation, I think Elon, believe it or not, is being sensible with his argument. It's just who's going to fix that problem? The government, the individual, or large corporations? I don't know, but guess what?
Starting point is 01:27:02 You best be solving for that problem now because it's coming. You best be thinking about that now. Tom, do you agree or disagree? I agree with you. What blind spots do I have? I don't think you have any blind spots. I don't bet on the government. I do not bet on the government.
Starting point is 01:27:14 I'm saying, but that is an option. You're correct. I believe it is one of the options. And the old versus new. You know, how many companies, if you're listening, have you, do you work for a company that talks to salespeople that says, hey, we need to focus on bringing in new customers, call your current customers, ask for referrals, bring in the new. This is, I don't see any blind spot in the argument. And by the way, there are people at the old company that just don't know how found out they really are. the new company that bought us has found them out,
Starting point is 01:27:45 we know what they're all about, and they are an endangered species. And you're going to look forward for solutions? You're not looking to the endangered species who are acting like dinosaurs who are going to get buried under dirt and someday become oil. And I hate to say it that way and be that blunt,
Starting point is 01:28:00 because if you don't care about the newest customer and about the newest person you're bringing up, you're just not going to win. But I agree with the case is who's going to look out for who. and the answer is if the companies are looking out for the municipalities and looking out for the citizens to be a good citizen in that city, fantastic.
Starting point is 01:28:21 The government is one of the entities, but I ain't waiting for them. I can go one of two ways with this. I mean, anytime there's been innovation, whether it's been the Industrial Revolution, whether it's the automobile, whether it was the printing press, everyone was like, all right, it's done. Unemployment's going to take over,
Starting point is 01:28:38 and society's ruined and looking out. All it has done is, us more efficient and honestly a better place to live. Who would have known when we were in the 90s or the early 2000s that we'd have this in our hands and it could do everything that we ever needed right here? And that's, has that ruined our lives? It's made our lives infinitely better. So on the flip side, I do understand the risk and the concern of what could potentially
Starting point is 01:29:03 happen with high unemployment. Because, you know, there's terms like, you know, inflation or stagflation or deflation or hyperinflation, all these things that have to do with like low growth and high unemployment. What I think may happen is that it's going to make society, AI is going to make society so efficient and make people so good that we're going to have a high economic growth, but also high unemployment. I don't know if we've ever seen a situation like that in society where society is running so efficiently. GDP, GDP per capita, people are making money. There's a dynamic growth in the economy, boom, and, boom, and, but also a significant portion of the economy of the workforce doesn't have to work.
Starting point is 01:29:46 I don't know if we've ever seen anything like that. That may happen, but you know what may end up, might end up happening and making what you want to come true, Pat? I think there's a lot of women who are in the workplace that don't really want or need to be in the workplace. But they kind of have to in order to survive, and I get that, ladies. I think the upside to this is going to say, ladies, if you want, only if you want, you can quote unquote, go back to the kitchen. And I think a lot of women are going to be like, hold on. So all I got to do is wake up every day, make sure that my husband is ready to go off to work,
Starting point is 01:30:21 spend the day with my kids or ship them off to school. Yeah. And then I get to be a good wife. I think that's going to happen because you remember they said what jobs are going to be lost. A lot of the jobs that are going to be lost are a lot of the jobs that women do in the workforce. And that's going to force them to go back to the home. So ladies, enjoy your new
Starting point is 01:30:40 feminism role being but others. Well, Pat, he brought up China. The first thing I, because I sent Rod the Slip, I think I sent it to you guys too in the chat is you brought up China and the AI and the robots. Did you see what the robot did? Pat, in China, there's some event happening. And this Chinese robot who's wearing a clown off and see, Pat, I guess he's, look at that little kid with a
Starting point is 01:30:56 pink shirt. He doesn't, he's doing karate. Then look, he picks the kid in the stomach. And Pat, look at, Pat, look at, nobody cares, no parent. They're just pushing him to the sign. Look at the robot. The robot's like, let me get the hell out of here. You'll get what you deserve. That is. So guess what? AI robot is. That's what I'm worried about.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Bro, that kid got just... Adam, karate chocked. It's titanium. You're funny, Rob. And nobody's helping the kid, Pat. That's the more recording. Guys, did anything happen to the kid or he's okay? No, they kicked the kid in the stomach, Pat.
Starting point is 01:31:25 But this is the future. That robot get arrested. No, no, bad. They just be facing time. They update him, and that's it. They just do a little quick update. There's people with fear of, clowns, this guy's not going to be fearing robot clowns the rest of his life. Because the jobs and
Starting point is 01:31:38 taking over jobs, it's going to be AI. It's going to be robots doing all the jobs that people don't want to do. Well, we'll see. Let me tell you another heartfelt story here, Vinny. I'm going to come to you first. So we have a story that came out. YouTuber Jesse Ridgeway and wife made difficult decision to terminate pregnancy after Down syndrome diagnosis came out and it was a gut punch, okay, when this story came out. So, gut punch for them. So here's the story. Okay, this was the baby of the YouTuber that apparently came out and they found out and Rob Vinnie were they at first celebrating just when it was actually ended their pregnancy
Starting point is 01:32:12 explaining why in a serious post on YouTube X, is this the video of them? This is them celebrating. Yes. Go ahead. They found out that they were pregnant. So this is them finally got their pregnant. Not that they know the kids down. Okay, go for it. Go ahead. Okay, read that. There's a faint line right there. Where is the instruction? Okay, okay. Why is this complex? Where's the like pregnant, not pregnant? So positive, two strong lines. or a strong line and a faint line.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Negative positive, Jess. Right? It is. What have you done? I don't know. This is just their pregnant. They're celebrating that they're pregnant. They're finding out that she's pregnant.
Starting point is 01:32:58 So what happens next thing? And then so there's a video, Robbie. This is them, Pat. I don't know what app he's using. I'm sorry, what results he's getting, like how the doctors are sending it, but this is them finding out that the kid has, Down syndrome. Not that it's like dying and it's something bad. It just has down syndrome. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Follow, we're going to see the result. I have to download the official report. Abnormal insight result. Consistent with trisomy 21. No. What is it? Wait. No. I can't see it. It says abnormal insight result. Follow that showed three chromosome 21 signals consistent with trisone 21 Down syndrome. Genetic counseling is recommended. Pattern consistent with Trisomey-21. Hey y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder what if?
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Starting point is 01:34:12 By the way, that's super tough. That's very, very tough, Pat. And then they announced right there on the video? Well, they're, because there was an ultrasound video, Pat, when, once she started getting to the point, you know, you can see the baby in the womb, which is, you know, that was the baby in there, you know, healthy other than just having Down syndrome. And like, Pat, here's my opinion. I know you guys are going to have yours. It's there, they admitted making the decision that it was, it was going to be an inconvenience
Starting point is 01:34:42 or they didn't, they didn't want to deal with the responsibility that comes with raising a child with Down syndrome. And look, I criticize all these IRL clavicular, all these people, because it's not my kind of content. But this is something different. To record yourself getting the diagnosis, talking about it publicly, then deciding to end to kill that baby's life, to me, it's horrific. To me, this is my opinion, Vincent O'Shauna's opinion. It's selfish. It's horrific. 67% to 85% of pregnancies in the United States with a Down syndrome diagnosis are aborted.
Starting point is 01:35:15 That's not. listen to me. God does not make mistakes. Every single life has value, every single one, okay? The Bible in Psalm 139, Tommy, and you talked about this before, for you created my inmost being, you knit me together in my mother's room. That means God formed this child, okay, and love that child before it was even born. A baby with Down syndrome is not a mistake, okay? That child is still fearfully and wonderfully made in the eyes of God, okay? Maybe, let's just say, maybe, let's just say, maybe. because nobody knows the plan, Pat. Maybe that child would have been the greatest blessing that these two streamers could have ever received. Maybe God was going to work through them to soften their hearts, strengthen their freaking marriage, inspire other families, Pat, that are dealing with the same thing. Instead, this child is never going to get a chance to breathe. I don't know if they already had the abortion, Rob, but that child, they chose the fate of that child, okay?
Starting point is 01:36:09 And I know people with Down syndrome, Pat. You know my best friend Artie. He's Armenian. He has Down syndrome. He is one of the happiest, loving, never upset, affectionate, pure-hearted people I've ever seen in my life. And by the way, this goes to every single kid with Down syndrome that I've seen, Pat, they're freaking happy. Here's a quick video, guys, of me with my friend Artie. I'm basically introducing him for the first time to his Michael Jackson in the Armenian community.
Starting point is 01:36:37 His name is Harut Babujan. Look at the happiness in this kid. Go ahead, Rob. Who's your best friend in the whole world? Who's your best friend? Look at him. Who's your favorite singer? Harutjadz, Babujan.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Harut, right? Open that door. Let's go inside. This is in Glendale, Pat. You know where this is. Look at this. Harut. Who's that?
Starting point is 01:36:58 Look at this dude, bro. Haru's a G. He's the best. Look at this guy, bro. Artie, you know what that is? Look at how, look at this. He had me. Habiti.
Starting point is 01:37:10 You have a bit. Look at Harut, Pat. Look at how happy he is, bro. he is, bro. What a gentle guy, Haruta. My God. Did it out of note. Didn't know me, didn't know. I just told him the situation through one of my friends. And guys, yes, this comes with challenges. Having a child with Down syndrome has challenges. Nobody's denying that. But guess what? He's still a human being
Starting point is 01:37:32 created in God's image. His life has just as much value as anybody else. And guess what? So if you truly can't handle it, have the baby. Give it up for adoption. There's families out there that are praying every day for freaking children, okay, families that would love to have a baby with everything that they had. So the whole story, Pat, really, really, I was in tears yesterday. I'm happy I got it all out. It broke my heart because this baby is still a blessing, even if the world saw it as a burden.
Starting point is 01:38:00 And it really, really bothered me. And, you know, prayers for the, again, I don't know if they aborted it or not, but to give it to just decide to kill it like that, Pat, really, really, it hurt me. It hurt me really, really bad. Rob, is this them posting the results of what they're getting from people? Yeah, this is the backlash that they received in their report. So it says, I've never seen such hate and vitriol for two people grieving the loss of their unboard child and making an impossible decision the last 24 hours has exposed a sight of humanity that is deeply disturbing,
Starting point is 01:38:29 being called murderous piece of evil compared to Hitler and receive a nonstop death threats, seen my six-year-old dog in stage four kidney disease be used as a weapon manipulating my words and intent. in a tweet or saying will regrets the citizen forever and must repent to God is an absolute insanity. If you ever wanted to marvel at the what is that word? The previty of people online just check the replies
Starting point is 01:38:51 on my latest tweet. It's a shit show of epic proportions. Keep going. Okay. And I'm not a fan of this. I don't like this at all. I don't like this at all. You know, so I'll give you my side of this. A few years ago, Jennifer and I announced during Thanksgiving that Jennifer's pregnant.
Starting point is 01:39:10 I think you were there. I don't know if you were there, but I do know you were there. I was there, yeah, I remember. And I announced that we're pregnant, and then I announced that we're expecting twins. And so you have no idea how special of a day it was because I wanted five kids.
Starting point is 01:39:25 So this was God's way of saying, you're going to get your five kids. And while we're at the hospital, they announced as twins, Jennifer's crying, I'm laughing, just visualized. I'm laughing so loud and she's crying. Because she's like, what the hell are we going to be doing?
Starting point is 01:39:37 Yes. Anyways, we go in, we choose the kids for the boy, but we don't have the name, you know, we have the name for both. Brooklyn and Lincoln was his name. So we go in, you know, six weeks, seven week, eight week, nine week. I think it was 10th week or I don't know what the week was, but it was 10th or 11 weeks or nine weeks. You go in and they say one of them didn't make it. Now keep in mind, we don't know which one did it make it. It was very hard when we went through this. We didn't know which one did it make it. make it. But I'm going to tell you, we've been married now to be 17 years this month, June 26, our 17 year anniversary is coming up. Do you know for that month of the doctor preparing us that it could be a Down syndrome kid and be prepared for it? Do you know how it was sleeping
Starting point is 01:40:27 every night, her and I? Like, it was challenging. We're watching videos. We're going through the whole process, steps of how the kids are going to react, what's going to happen to you? All of this. So by the way, I sympathize for these guys. This is a young couple. I don't know how old they are. They look like they're in their mid-20s. I don't know how old they're. Maybe they're in the mid-20s, maybe early 30s.
Starting point is 01:40:45 They don't look like they're old. And so while you're going through it, Vinnie, and maybe you don't have faith, you know, you're not somebody that has that in your life. 33 years old, is that what it is? Yes, 33 years old that they're going through. I don't know their stories at all, so I don't want to judge these guys.
Starting point is 01:40:59 It is a very, very difficult thing to go through, and they made this choice. It's interesting you said that because we have another friend of ours that they had their fourth kid. And they called me and we had a call together. And they said the fourth kid is a, you know, Down syndrome, it's definite. And I'm listening to these guys that they're going through it. And the father, his sister, was Down syndrome growing up. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:28 And I said, look, I don't know what God is planning on doing. but maybe the siblings are going to be such good caretakers that that's going to cause them to become the types of leaders. We don't even know what they're going to do. It's going to take us 40 years to know why God did this. Could take us 50. Could happen, and you're not even here to witness the blessing that he gave. But this is a very, very difficult thing that this couple is going through.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Of course, I don't, you know, whether I agree with the decision or not, it's a different thing. still pray for this family as they're going through this. And I hope they have enough love around them to encourage them while they're going through this. It's very hard to get pregnant. And then, you know, 70% of first pregnancies lead to miscarriages. And then to have this, I'm sure nobody's in more pain. The baby's no longer here with us. That's, of course, number one. But then I'm sure they're also going through challenging times. Adam. Look, this story hits close to home in many different ways. My father was born with
Starting point is 01:42:31 cerebral palsy. So every year he would make us go to the Special Olympics. And I remember being like, I don't want to go to the Special Olympics, Dad. Like, why don't I got to be around these people? He's like, son, you're coming. And let me tell you something. You know, when you volunteer for the Special Olympics, you know what you're called? You're called a hugger. Your job is to hug them and give them a hug and say, congratulations you won. You got second place. This is me giving out medals at the Special Olympics too. Now my buddies run the Special Olympics. You don't use the volume. But look, being around these kids who have all different types of challenges, whether it's
Starting point is 01:43:09 Down syndrome, whether it's muscular dystrophy, whether there's all the different issues out there, the smiles on these kids' faces when they get a medal, Rob, if you can play that first video, it's hilarious. The smile on these kids' faces and these young people's faces, it makes their day. And it teaches you empathy and it teaches you compassion. This guy's hilarious. And it gives you character. And you realize, oh, my God, life is precious and life is beautiful.
Starting point is 01:43:39 And you don't know what you're going to get. Believe me, there's more I can say about that later. But the Special Olympics teaches you to have compassion and have heart. And for this young couple, I'm so sorry that you're dealing with this. I hope you make a decision to not have an abortion. I don't know if they did that yet. They did. That pains me to see.
Starting point is 01:44:01 But the twist on this, Vinnie, you're a comedian. You know, I did comedy for a while. Nothing is as funny as having a good time with these guys. They're the best. And you just, it puts a smile on your face. And I wish more people understood the pain that comes with stuff like this, but also the joy. Tom. I'll tell you, I see this on three angles.
Starting point is 01:44:27 And first of all, to those of you that spewed vitriol at these folks, shame on you. That is not the way to respond. The way to respond is with love and compassion and reminding them that God is in charge and this would not be God's decision. And reminding them that the God that loves them and loves his child, that's where it is. But to spew the profanity and the vitriol, that's just so out of bounds. You're not going to accomplish anything. What are you accomplishing? You're accomplishing nothing for the God you claim to represent when you do it like that. And I'll tell you, we saw some of this. The obstetrician, when Kim was pregnant with Brooke, did a great job of scaring the hell out of us because, you know, Kim was 40.
Starting point is 01:45:14 So they did just an incredible job of just scaring the bejes out of us. Oh, we need to do this, we need to do this, we do this. Until we found one doctor that said, none of these tests are 100% accurate. these are also all possibilities. And that's why you see that guy reading, and he said this is consistent with Down syndrome. Well, maybe it's 95%, maybe it's 92%, maybe it's 85%. Maybe it's 85%.
Starting point is 01:45:38 Who knows? But that just means that there's a two, three, five, 15% chances is a normal regular kid with normal capabilities. So you might be taking out a child with normal capabilities because the test is consistent, not 100%. and then the other side of it what you just said is so beautiful Adam and what you showed in the video
Starting point is 01:46:01 your friend is so beautiful the disabled children of life teach the rest of us kindness and they teach the rest of us to get off the vitriol when you don't know the learning that you go through as a parent we went through it
Starting point is 01:46:18 Brooke when she started to speak she had a kind of a lisp and Pat used to joke with her Are you from Boston? Are you from Boston? And she had a little bit of a lip. She had a tough time with it because her tongue and her palate, they weren't working the way they should.
Starting point is 01:46:33 She's a boss, by the way. And then the doctor. It's a boss. And then the doctor says, hey, we're looking at the scan of your two-year-old here. I think you need to consider cranial orthosis. We're like, what? I think the skull was malformed and not working right. We may have to do a surgery to reform.
Starting point is 01:46:50 And then you see the kids that wear these little padded helmets for about six months to shape it. And I said, okay, that's fine, but what's happening inside the cause that? Well, it could be this, could be that, could be this. Again, scared the hell of you. You know what? Two words came across our minds.
Starting point is 01:47:08 Love, work. We love, and it's time to get to work. We either need to learn about everything and be the kind of parents to help other people with it. But the love's not going away and we're not making any decisions because we're not God.
Starting point is 01:47:21 And we're going to get to work can do everything we could. And Brooke turned out just fine. It turns out it wasn't cranial orthosis. But at that moment, we're wondering, are we going to be part of a group of parents that have to do these things? And Brooke's fine, straight-A student right now,
Starting point is 01:47:36 and we're blessed by that. With a video of that. Blessed by that. And I think, let's celebrate and learn from every member of society, not sit there and say, oh, we're going to handpick, and we're going to be God.
Starting point is 01:47:49 I love these comments that have coming in. James Shrumsack. I have a daughter with Downs. She's an angel. I thank God for her every day. She's a blessing. I love her with everything. Yeah, it's great. You're seeing some of these commentary that's coming through because people have gone through this.
Starting point is 01:48:05 There's something about this story here. And like, for instance, Pat, like, look at how beautiful this relationship is. These two brothers, I sent it to Rob, Biffin and Turner. Turner's diagnosed with Down syndrome on the right, and he wants to be like his big brother. Look how beautiful this brother is in this moment. About Turner. What's your favorite thing about Turner?
Starting point is 01:48:21 Look. Makes me laugh. That he's my brother. Look at that. Dude. It's awesome. It makes me feel good to have a brother like him. I love for you.
Starting point is 01:48:37 Look at how freaking adorable. Because make me laugh. I love this video. You can stop it. Yeah. Start crying in his face. I mean, he hugs, he goes. Oh, look, man.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Life is challenging. Life is hard. especially for a husband and wife, when you guys are going through the process of wanting to have kids. Let me tell you, nobody prepares you for this. Seriously, like, no one prepares you on how the roller coaster ride is. And when you're going through it, you think you're the only person that's going through it? This is a very, very difficult thing people go through.
Starting point is 01:49:08 I want to finish with a different story before we wrap up. And here's what the stories. By the way, Henry Novak, Rob, we haven't finished that story. If we can get into that in World Cup and then we'll wrap it up. But Henry Nowak video comes out about the individual that there's more to it than we expected. Apparently, the guy that killed them in UK with the story that came out with the long,
Starting point is 01:49:31 what do you call it, the ceremonial blade that he had, apparently they found a video of him of having used this in the past before and they don't know when, but they do know it's the same guy. Go ahead, Rob. Come on. That's him? Recording him.
Starting point is 01:49:49 Recording him. Oh. Come on, man. Bro, are you, this? Here he is? You go big problem, me, us. You're not the same guy, Ron? Yep.
Starting point is 01:50:00 According to reports, it is. I fact-checked with Brock as well. Is he the guy with the blue turban? Crip, yeah. Blue. Crip. Crip. Cripp.
Starting point is 01:50:11 That's a representative. It's even in London. Grip, fuck. So that comes out. So he drives around with an eight-inch blade, and he's, and he could have it, but they can't have mace. And Kier-Starmah made it clear that it's legal because it's ceremonial. Oh, okay, I got it. So can you imagine like Assyrians, we go out and we say Syrians, we have ceremonial AK-47 that we walk around.
Starting point is 01:50:30 Would that be legal? Would that be okay with you? He'd have to say yes. What's this here, Rob? This is the police. They apologize for the death of Henry Nowak. They blame the killer for lying to them. Oh.
Starting point is 01:50:42 Yeah. I'm sorry that Henry's life couldn't be saved that night. And I'm sorry that he was handcuffed and arrested in the moments before he lost consciousness. when his killer made that call to police and he called the police not the ambulance service he lied on that call he lied when police attended the scene he continued to lie as Henry's condition deteriorated it is clear and it is absolutely tragic that it took them three minutes before they started to administer first aid so go tell that to the parents yeah go go tell that to the parents go tell that to the guy that was stabbed five times
Starting point is 01:51:15 he's telling you he can't breathe and you're saying no you're right you know he made bigoted comments to the other guys and then the mother's running away to hide the ceremonial knife. And it's led to now, what is this here, Rob? This is protests going on in the United Kingdom now over the death of Henry Nowak. Who's protesting against who? The people on the right. But are they pro-N-WAC or are they pro-N-WAC?
Starting point is 01:51:39 No, they're pro-N-WAT. Let me see it. When you're a mid-sized business, you need every competitive advantage you can get, like an AI solution that works for you, not against you. SAP Grow is built with AI embedded at its core, working across every system, and it's ready to go from day one so you can hit the ground running. Bring it with SAP Grow, AI Cloud ERP for any size business. This isn't London way, man.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Can you blame that? No. No, not at all. And it's unfortunate that the police chief's talking about police who are inexperienced dealing with someone who said he didn't do it. Yeah, exactly. And someone who lies. Really?
Starting point is 01:52:40 Your job is to be able to tell that apart. Adam, isn't that shocking? The police are, the guy was lying to us. Really? Look at this mess here. I thought that was a day at the office. It's pretty wild. Did you hear when Michael Knowles said something very, very good on Pierce Morgan?
Starting point is 01:52:59 He said, Henry Noak was who the left pretended and tried to make George Floyd out to be. That's, this is the truth. Like, I can't breathe. I'm done. I'm stab. And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. Like, not believing him because someone.
Starting point is 01:53:12 cried racism. Let me see this, Rob? It's a long, no, it's a long, it's a, it's a long clip, but that, he basically said that. For Michael Knowles. Awesome. Awesome. Michael Knowles is phenomenal, by the way. His takes are so good.
Starting point is 01:53:26 He's, he's fair, he's funny. He's interesting. He's smart. He's got to, he's a trifecta. Because this is justified anger, okay, with George Floyd. Yep. On four times the amount of fentanyl and drugs and everything and resisting and fighting and doing all that stuff, dying of an overdose and look what the left took to burn down the
Starting point is 01:53:42 freaking nation, billions of dollars of tax, blaming racism like the coppersies, even the Asian guy that was a stand in there, he got arrested, he got in trouble, he got fired. It's ridiculous. To compare the both is nuts. This is the actual case. Crying racism, the kid did nothing. He's standing there, bleeding out his hands have
Starting point is 01:53:58 no life in him, no color, and they still let in there, I can't breathe, and he dies in front of all of them, okay, because of racism. The question is, these types of things happen, but then the question becomes, what do you do to prevent future ones from happening? Did you, do you make adjustments from future ones from happening?
Starting point is 01:54:15 And I hope they're making those proper adjustments, Tom. Well, you bring up the exact right point. Let's go upstream and find out what's going on. What's going on is the country, its government, and the ruling part of that government, and the police are being told, right, believe those that are claiming racism, and they have a reverse bias
Starting point is 01:54:42 again, and Pierce will disagree with me, but there is a reverse bias that is going now against the citizenry. And the police are walking with a bias. So when we go upstream, Pat, the police are told to give credence to the claims of the foreigner claiming racism. So they give credence. And then they are knocking on doors and asking people, did you just say, Adam, did you just say that on Instagram? Wait, what do you talk about? I was on Instagram while I'm watching a soccer game, UEFA, here in England. Yes, but you were on, according to the government source here, and we can see it, you were on Instagram, and you said this. I was talking about the other soccer team.
Starting point is 01:55:25 This is a true story about it. And they're saying, no, that's inappropriate. We need you to come with us. So the whole country is there. So guess what? For him to say, that guy said racial things is that. They are told to arrest Henry. They did their job as a job.
Starting point is 01:55:42 they were directed to do it. And now the consequent is that he's died and they're running from it. And even the excuse sounds completely off. But what we're seeing is the outcome of the reversal of the rule of law and the reversal of what constitutes racism. And the outcome is the police did the new job they're being asked to do. I love it. I mean, again, the biggest thing for me is if you make adjustments, if you improve, good you. If you don't continue
Starting point is 01:56:14 is happening. No wonder a guy like Tommy Robinson is able to get hundreds of thousands of people that are going on the streets because you're not alone. FYI. Tom, if Spencer Pratt ends up losing, if the numbers show up, the way that it does, what do you think will end up in L.A.? What do you think will happen
Starting point is 01:56:32 in L.A.? I think there'll be two outcomes. Number one, there will be people that attempt to go to hearings and make their voices heard because someone's got to go. the county commission, you saw what happened. There were people that came in to courtrooms and stuff in Georgia, because Atlanta, the citizens are going to demand it.
Starting point is 01:56:50 The citizens are going to demand it because there's 163,549 people that feel they legitimately supported Spencer Pratt for the reasons that he had there. So there's going to be a citizen response. Is it going to be J6? No, not at all. But the second thing is going to happen. I think this is going to accelerate California Exodus. And this is a country that's lost a country.
Starting point is 01:57:14 They claim to be the fourth largest economy in the world. They are. But they keep losing citizens. They keep losing companies. I think we even saw another story that said that they're not even the number one for Fortune 500 anymore. So I think the Exodus will accelerate. Texas officially has more Fortune 500 headquarters than California. California had it for a long time.
Starting point is 01:57:35 Nice. Used to be California for a long time. Texas officially took over California for that. Let me get to the last story. Adam, unless you have any thoughts on this? I'll just say the saddest thing here is this kid died for the crime of being white. That's all it was. You know, one of the things we've learned is that reverse racism is racism.
Starting point is 01:57:53 There's a war on white people. And listen, a lot of people don't even say, Adam, you're not even white. You're Jewish. I don't care what it is. I wish we lived in a colorblind society, you know, but the reality is there's always going to be interpersonal relationships that are going to happen. but the whole systemic thing, especially in America, we don't have systemic racism. There's always going to be little pockets of racism.
Starting point is 01:58:16 But England, the UK, what they've done, they felt so bad about their white privilege. And they forgot that England, the United Kingdom, a thousand years, it's white people. And I guess they colonized. Everyone's colonized. You don't think the Middle Eastern has been colonized? You don't think Africans have been colonized?
Starting point is 01:58:36 Everyone has colonized people. Everyone's had slavery. but whites for some reason have the noose of racism hanging around their neck and at any given point the decolonization crowd will lift the noose and kill Whitey
Starting point is 01:58:50 and it's a shame. Next time Adam says short take, just remember. It's gone. Short take is minimum two minutes. All right. So World Cup. He's right on this one. World Cup games face hours long delays
Starting point is 01:59:00 over major safety concerns across U.S. stadiums. And by the way, let me tell you about the new rules for World Cup. I don't know how excited you are. I know we're very excited you. I know we're very excited, and the guys are going to be using the podcast room to listen, or watch the games on a daily basis.
Starting point is 01:59:13 I know Jake's already giving me the look. This place is going to be the place. No one's going to be at the 1,200 building. They're all going to be here. I hope we've regulated accordingly. But here's a new rules, and some don't like it. Some people don't like it. I don't know for the people that are following this, the World Cup.
Starting point is 01:59:28 Last World Cup, in my opinion, was the greatest finals game in my, like for me to watch it. It was phenomenal where Mbapapapé gets a hat trick and then mess. he ends up winning the first one with the goal. He's saving that one goal at 123rd minute. So here's a new rules. Here's a new rules that they're that they're doing. 2026 World Cup will introduce one of the biggest rule overhauls in years with FIFA and IFAB, targeting time wasting, expanding via authority, and increasing punishments for players misconduct. Let's go through it. VAR gets expanded powers. VAR can now intervene on incorrectly awarded corner kicks, attack and fouls committed before
Starting point is 02:00:07 corners and free kicks that later lead to goals, penalties, corners, or free kicks, incorrect second yellow cards that result in red cards, mistaken identity, disciplinary decisions. So that's going to be crazy right there. Now let's go to the next one. Players can't cover their mouths during confrontation. So if you're going to the referee or team and you're talking like this, red card. They literally are saying, any player who covers their mouth with a hand, arm, or sure during the confrontation can be shown a red card, Vinnie.
Starting point is 02:00:39 And you know what red card is, Rob? Can you pull out what a red card is in World Cup? If I'm not mistaken, when you get a red card, not only are you kicked up, but you're suspended the next game. Oh, yeah, this is massive. So the market is a red card reserve immediate ejection for the World Cup. Covering your mouth. For covering your place and one other, one less player
Starting point is 02:00:54 or mandator. Additionally, the offender receives an automatic suspension for the following match. So guess what? No more this. Imagine your coach. Now you're telling you guys, hey, don't even think about bringing your hands up. You're mad at the rep. I can't call them a not just stating effort.
Starting point is 02:01:08 With covered mouth. 10 second substitution. Substituted players must leave the field within 10 seconds using the nearest exit point. If they delay their replacement, cannot enter until at least one minute later and only after the next stoppage, temporarily leaving the team within 10 players. Five second countdown for restarts. Referees can invite a visible five second count on for throw-ins and goal kicks if they believe a player is deliberately wasting time. This is actually good to make the game more. exciting. That's actually going to be good. Injured
Starting point is 02:01:37 outfield players must leave the pitch. Players receiving medical treatment on the field must leave for at least one minute before returning goalkeepers and serious injury. So this makes you not fake an injury because you've got to step out. So that could be actually good. No more goalkeepers tactical timeouts. Teams can no longer use
Starting point is 02:01:54 goalkeeper injury stoppages as unofficial coaching breaks where players gather at the bench for instructions. Official will keep players on the field, though no formal punishment currently exists for violations and walking off the field in protest becomes a red card player who leaves the field to protest refereeing decisions will be sent off oh my god hydration breaks in every half each half will conclude include a three-minute hydration break due to expected heat him i don't know if i like that one so anyways those are some of the rules that people
Starting point is 02:02:24 are looking at and people you know they have they have some strong thoughts about it with this time do you have any thoughts on these new ruling so i don't like new rules on the edge of championships. The NFL always spends all this time. They go, the rules community has decided this. The rules community decided this. For this year, starting at the preseason, you know, we're going to be ruling things like this.
Starting point is 02:02:47 We're going to be ruling things like this. Major League Baseball had the pitch clock in the minor leagues and the challenge in the minor leagues, and you're introduced the beginning of it. It frustrates me, why wouldn't you be doing this in Champions League? where all these players that are on the European teams play. Why wouldn't you do it in the North American and the championships of the Americas?
Starting point is 02:03:12 Why wouldn't you test it? Why do you wait to go there? Now something like, okay, when it's at the World Cup, remember, you can't cover your mouth and say things. Okay, so now they say, hey, remember, don't yell at the referee and cover your mouth. And so you're questioning whether his parents were married when he was born and things like that.
Starting point is 02:03:29 You know, you can't do that. I don't mind that, but if you're going to make a lot of rule changes that affect play and strategy, you know what? That's just, I don't like that on the edge of a championship, Pat. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, listen, diehard soccer fans are not supporting this. Diehard soccer fans are furious about this. Vinny, your thoughts.
Starting point is 02:03:52 Pat, if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Leave it alone. What is this going to do what he's telling him off? Like for how many decades, decades, soccer's been just the way it is. It's totally fine the way that it is. I don't think adding any more rules. It's going to ruin it.
Starting point is 02:04:06 It's going to really, really mess it up. It's going to delay it. And imagine how many people, Pat, that are going to forget. Within the first couple games, they're going to do this. One guy's going to mess up
Starting point is 02:04:14 and they're out for the next game, and then we're going to lose a player. That's especially, man. Imagine if it's a superstar. And this is a country. It happens every four years. It's not like it's NBA. You get one game suspension.
Starting point is 02:04:22 Of course. Come back up. So it's not like it's a seven game series. Yes. Yeah, I'm rooting for the USA. That's it. I'm rooting for... Efficiency.
Starting point is 02:04:33 Exactly. I'm rooting for Iranians to bring your son and lion flag. And if you don't have that, get your hat from VT March. Future looks bright. And I'm more focused on right now on the NBA finals and hoping and praying that the New York Mabhanis don't win. Yeah, we'll see. And by the way, aside from that, Japan, I don't know if you guys saw what's going on with Japan.
Starting point is 02:04:54 Japanese players showed up to Mexico. And they're not happy because they welcome terrible conditions in Mexico, Japan does, threatening to leave the World Cup. Rob, I don't know if you have that story or not, if you want to go to it. So they're like, what the hell is going on time? You saw this story, right? You saw what happened. What happened there? Japanese national football team is preparing to participate in the world's biggest players.
Starting point is 02:05:16 It was supposed to prepare at the training center of Tikris, but it was reporting in such poor condition that Japanese leadership threatened to withdraw from the World Cup. which would certainly have been an unprecedented move. However, the organizer reacted immediately, and thanks to that, Monterey allowed the Japanese national team to use a state-of-the-art training center and the programs were overcome. Japan is in Group F, along with Netherlands, Sweden, and Tunisia, and will play two matches from the first phase of competition in Arlington against Netherlands on June 14th and Sweden on June 25th,
Starting point is 02:05:51 while facing Tunisia, June 20 at Guadalupe, Mexico. The World Cup is Japan's eight consecutive participation in the 20th, and its greatest success so far has been ninth place finishes in World Cup in 2002, 2010 and 2022, Tom. Well, first of all, if you're going to be holding the World Cup and you say, hey, you're going to be training here. This is where it's going to be. It's got to be good.
Starting point is 02:06:12 And this seemed kind of weird that the turf is in such bad conditions because if you study Mexico, they're pretty good at grown grass. So, California. What was that about that? But if you're going to be inviting... A little bit of racist dad jokes, but it was good. So if you're inviting people... Thank you, Connor.
Starting point is 02:06:34 If you're inviting people to your country, wouldn't you want to put them in some of the finest place? Wouldn't you reach out... Not Mexico, buddy. Hey, this is what we're going to do. Hey, Monterey, we would like to put them there because you've got a great training facility. You're done.
Starting point is 02:06:50 Some of your players are actually on the Mexican national team. Let's do this. Why wouldn't you do that? Why would you send them over to something that isn't, and this is a top 10 team. There's 64 teams, right? And Japan can be said to be a top 10 team. And so it just seems, it just seems ridiculous, Pat. It just seems ridiculous that you would actually allow it to happen.
Starting point is 02:07:10 If you were, if you were running an organization as you do, and the best wasn't given to a guest to make somebody feel go, wouldn't you say, where is unreasonable hospitality? Especially if guys are coming in and treating them. By the way, you know, what's one of the biggest, uh, uh, compliments we're getting right now is how quickly merch is arriving because of where we are right now with the new management team, new leadership team, as well as the new three pill that we have. So for some of you guys that are going to be watching the games, they don't want to celebrate your country. We have the USA hat there. Future looks bright.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Rob, if you want to click on that so they can see what it looks like. By the way, it looks so sick on the inside. Somebody the other day bought 15 Iran hats, by the way, and go back, Rob, to the previous ones, other countries. We have Mexico. We have U.S. shirts. We have Mexico on the top right. Brazil.
Starting point is 02:07:54 Argentina, and then I think that's Portugal. And if you go all the way to the bottom, we didn't forget Iran. See where you have Iran there, Rob. Iran, Iran, Rob's going to fix some. Iran, Iran, right there is. Iran, Rob, spell Mukrumany real quick. And the hats are there as well, which is simple. Look at the, look at the inside of Iran.
Starting point is 02:08:13 I love the line. Go to it, Rob, go, boom. I love that. People who know. With the lion and the sun, let's go. No, you know. In the land of the rising sun, the land of the sun.
Starting point is 02:08:23 Anyways, gang. great doing a podcast with you guys. We will give you guys our schedule for the summer. It's going to adjust, but we'll give it to you on Monday. There's massive, massive announcement being made on Monday, especially if you're a father, man. We're looking out for you, but stay tuned for Monday. Have a great weekend, everybody. God bless. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

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