PBD Podcast - SBF Sentenced, Diddy Grooming Allegations & Trump Civil Suit w/ Alina Habba | PBD Podcast | Ep. 386

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Starting point is 00:01:08 when they pick fights against her but she does them back down. We have the great Olena Habba in the house today. How are you Olena? Hi, I'm good. It's been a long time. We haven't seen you for a long time. Everything good? I'm a little busy. Yeah, that's good. Very good. But no, obviously we got a lot of stories guys we're gonna be going through today for sure want to get an update with what's happening with the President Trump, with all the different legal battles. Tom, I think you just gave a update this morning that the SPF case, the judge is the same judge that was on the E. Jean Carroll case, if I'm not mistaken.

Starting point is 00:01:44 That's correct. So it'd be interesting to see how he handles that, you know, with SPF would get you, get some of your feedback on that. Then there's this guy, I don't know if you've heard of him, this guy's name is Puff Daddy, P. Diddy. He's going through some legal issues. We have some videos of a guy that he claims other people

Starting point is 00:02:01 like it his way. What's his name? I think his name is Usher, if I'm not mistaken, right? He has a video that came out talking about Diddy There's a couple Justin Bieber videos, which will show Rob. I'm sure you have and then aside from that We have some stories from Ronna McDaniel. She got paid Highest paid person on NBC parent. He did 20 minutes. She was getting paid $30,000 an hour Can you imagine the Bush in a contract like that? She getting paid $30,000 an hour. Can you imagine a guy pushing a contract like that?

Starting point is 00:02:25 She gets paid $30,000 an hour. We'll tell you the math on how that worked out. Stay tuned, you'll see why it's $30,000 an hour. Take a few minutes to fully see what's going on there. Pennsylvania voter ballot, you know, all of a sudden is saying we need to know the dates, we need to know all the information. So some people are not happy, some people are happy, but it's progress towards actual accountability with property, with what do you call it, with voting.

Starting point is 00:02:54 And then John Stewart, you know, everybody's talking about how much, you know, President Trump overvalued his properties. Some data came up that John Stewart is apparently a big fan of Trump's philosophy, and he also increased his home value, labeling it overvalued by 829%. What a capitalist. What a capitalist the great Jon Stewart is. So everybody does it. We all get scared.

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Starting point is 00:03:50 I have the video, I'll share that with you guys. Easter weekend, a lot of people be in churches. Yes, I have some stuff on that. And then, I'll show you one clip on who Nickelodeon is thinking about their new CEO. I think it's very important for you guys to see who's gonna be Nickelodeon's first CEO.

Starting point is 00:04:06 And then Alex Jones had Shmuelian. I don't know if you saw this. Alex Jones had Rabbi Shmuelian and they were going back and forth. It's a little awkward. It's a little bit uncomfortable, but he's a rabbi. So we have to watch it to see what happens. Well, he's holiness. Very, very important what's going on with that.

Starting point is 00:04:21 So anyways, and we got a few other stories. Having said that, Alina, what is the latest with President Trump's case? Obviously everybody for the longest time was saying Monday, Monday it's gonna happen, Monday, 454 affiliates, he's gonna have to pay if he doesn't seize his assets. You know, the view, I can't wait, I want to see that, you know, seizing his assets and the property, I want to see all of that stuff. What is the latest? What's been happening? So we're winning. And I've always tell people, you know, this is the long game. Okay, we are in a corrupt system. There's no question about it. So people love

Starting point is 00:04:54 to say, Look, he's gonna get we're gonna go over there and Tish James is going to take the keys to Trump Tower. I think whoopi Goldberg and all of them got excited about putting a chain around Trump Tower and literally were taunting. It was a really pathetic site actually and it didn't happen. Why? Because the Appellate Division read our papers, saw that there are reasons for a stay, saw that it absolutely is ridiculous to have somebody lose an asset while the Appellate Division hasn't had an opportunity to look at the injustices, look at the decision making that was so flawed. And frankly, the motivation on

Starting point is 00:05:33 this case was flawed. She was motivated to bring this case before she was even in office. That's what she ran on, Ms. James. So that in itself, selective prosecution happens to be illegal. It shouldn't happen. Look, they stated they dropped it. They said we're not taking assets. Everything is frozen. Not only, and this is the one thing that nobody talks about. They didn't just say you're not paying that amount of money, which by the way, is almost close to a billion dollars with a bond because you have to pay 10% more plus you have to pay interest. The judges said, no, we're stopping everything. You're not enforcing this.

Starting point is 00:06:07 You're going to put 175 mill, which is still crazy, in a bank. But we're also not enforcing any decision against the defendants not to be able to work in New York in real estate. We're also not enforcing the decisions against Allen Weisselberg. People that did nothing wrong, that were working for, Jeff McCarty, people that did nothing wrong that were working for a company and did their job and truly did nothing wrong. Nobody did. And every single part of that decision from Judge Ingoran, that twisted decision.

Starting point is 00:06:37 Every single thing was put on hold. Everything. While we have the opportunity now to say, this is what I was screaming about outside the courtroom steps every day You know, so we're on hold and and I mean we're on hold for an expensive price But at least we're seeing a little bit of you know due process and and sense Hardly come up with the hundred seventy five million. I don't know. I have no idea. You know, it wasn't in there There wasn't any qualification

Starting point is 00:07:02 Well, Alina are they starting to figure out that this tactic that they're using is not, it's like, it's done. It's not going to work. We can call the DNC and ask them. I'm not sure. You know, I don't understand how they couldn't see that their overreaching has really hurt them because Donald Trump has always been famous. He has always been a very smart businessman, which is why I think he's a very good president.

Starting point is 00:07:27 He attacks things from a business perspective, which I think some presidents and some politicians frankly do lack that experience, right? And because of that, they've attacked him so badly that now you've taken a billionaire and made him sympathetic because you're hurt you're trying to hurt him it's so obvious that Now we've got people from the left the middles. They're coming to our side and saying well, this is just too much You know, they're gonna do this to me. What am I gonna do? I don't have Habba outside screaming, you know What are you gonna do? And that's been my message always is You know, they're doing it to him, but they'll do it to us, they'll do it to me

Starting point is 00:08:08 I'm sure, they'll do it to everybody and that's what scares me so that's that's really it's the motivation is really not just President Trump it's America. So let me ask you this so this 175 we're talking about okay it has to be in an account fine he gets puts that cash no problem. If we size up the enemy of President Trump as being deceptive, dark, divisive, willing to do anything to eliminate him as a candidate going into 2024, November 5th, anything they can do, right, to spin the story and say look at him now, he's part of the establishment, he's going to New York begging people for money, Wall Street, all this stuff. now he's part of the establishment, he's going to New York begging people for money, Wall Street, all this stuff.

Starting point is 00:08:45 If that was the case, he's still got a few more cases open, is it possible that they may come up and say, yeah, for this one you have to pay $280 million, this one's going to be $73 million, another $128 million, another $190 million. Can they keep doing this between now and October to just really deplete all of his savings? So look, the reality is he's an incredibly wealthy man. His wealth, like all wealthy individuals that have intelligence, is being put to work. It's in buildings, it's in real estate, it's in hotels, it's in golf. They're not, you know, whatever they're going to try and do do they forget who they're dealing with number one But realistically Patrick what we do have in front of us is really not the civil suits the civil suits

Starting point is 00:09:31 We're already done. And if if you what you're asking, I believe already happened. We had the Carroll lawsuit He got hit with an insane and that and that was a suit that I obviously did We had already lost prior and we have not been heard on appeal on that first loss. This is the 83.3 million. 83.3 million. That was the first one. Right.

Starting point is 00:09:53 Which actually turns out to be 91 million when you look at it with the bond, okay, with the 10%. You have to put 10% on top. People think you put 10% into the court. You put the entire amount plus 10% into the Appellate Division. So it's a number that the court gives plus 10% plus the interest on the bond plus whatever they get in fees. It's plus plus plus. So we already got that hit. I did that trial two weeks after Letitia James trial ended. I was on that trial for four months. The judge and Goran waited to put his decision until after the jury came out with Carol. So we had that happen. We had that happen. It was 91 million. And then Tish James, her original complaint, if you look, was $250 million. In the middle of the trial, towards the end, she changes it and says, now I want more.

Starting point is 00:10:45 Not because the facts were bad, frankly, the facts were good. Deutsche Bank came, took the stance that he was a whale of the client. We actually wanted him because we wanted his connections. Zurich still insures us. You know, all these things. The judge didn't care. Tisch asked for more. He gave exactly what she wanted.

Starting point is 00:11:02 There was no consideration for witnesses or facts or law. It's all crazy and correct. So it was 91 then 375. They're out of thin air. Their own expert said even if we looked at the what this judge is saying is an over value, okay, he's also saying Marilago's 18 million. Okay, so sure if you think Marilago's worth 18 million,, there's about over a billion dollars of over It's ridiculous. There is no way if Mar-a-Lago is 18 million. We should all buy it tomorrow And flip it and all be we'll all be worth hundreds of millions of dollars I mean, it's crazy, but if you look at it that way, yeah, that was already planned Patrick That's what they did

Starting point is 00:11:41 They did 91 then they did 375 375 becomes more like 600 million so they were trying to take it by the way remember Tish asked for his statements asked for financials she changed the number based on what cash he had it's just it's there's zero percent question in my mind that's what happens. So Lena if you ask that like the average person that doesn't know about law doesn't know about this and they're looking at from the outside looking in even left or right and they're saying to themselves how the hell are they getting away with this and nobody's saying anything in the legal world in government and Congress somebody should be like alright guys

Starting point is 00:12:14 timeout besides I don't care what the hell who the person is what are you guys doing this is blatantly obvious that it's a tactic to try to take like keep them off the ballot it's ridiculous it's ridiculous but I think that I think that we have a problem with accountability with the Democrat side and I'm not sure we figured out how to tackle them. We have to. I think President Trump would make everything even, Steven, when he gets back into office. I think that what we have to deal with is exactly that.

Starting point is 00:12:42 We keep talking about it. I could go on TV every day and talk about how we have White House logs that came out while I was on trial. I'm sitting in the back room and I find out that there were White House logs that Tish James visited the White House before and after the complaint was filed. What? How was that not on the news? If I didn't have such a loud mouth, people wouldn't hear the truth.

Starting point is 00:13:03 So I'm looking at it and I'm going, what? How is this possible? And it didn't get covered. It didn't get covered. I mean, who is that public info fight right now? Wanted to find out that she's visited the White House. That's public.

Starting point is 00:13:15 I could see it. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. So I'm looking at it and I'm saying, how do we hold them accountable? Well, these are elected officials. You know, we had people there. We have gag orders being put on us. How is that okay? Gag orders on lawyers. Imagine

Starting point is 00:13:30 I go to court, I'm your lawyer. And the judge says, no, you can't talk about a couple of things here. How about the Carroll case? The judge asked me the questions I was going to ask my client in public in front of the media before he took the stand and then asked me what his answers would be. I was like, excuse me? Nobody talks about it. Transcript. You ask for the transcript. It's there.

Starting point is 00:13:55 It's crazy. This is judicial activism at its worst. Judicial activism is where the judge is sort of acting as a lobbyist on behalf of a political side and in civil cases, it can run amok as long as you get a dirty judge. At least at the federal level, you know, you have federal sentencing guidelines, right? Which was that a sentence will be this much, might be this much, and can be extended to this much on the circumstances that the, you know, that basically the AGs first states or whatever that are participating and Remand things like to this Southern District of New York for business and it looks terrible and they say okay

Starting point is 00:14:31 Well, then your guidelines here, but you're gonna get this but for civil Vinny civil it can run a month All you need is a bad dirty judge. He puts a gag order here. He impugns a witness here. He prevents us here He suppresses us here, and you're literally a puppet and you feel like you're in the middle of Congress during a debate for a bill rather than in the halls of justice with rules and regulations. We are supposed to have, you know, the executive, the judicial, and then legislative. Legislative is where we run amok until we figure it out. Judicial we're supposed to have procedures and laws and standards and things that go in there.

Starting point is 00:15:07 This didn't happen. They basically decided that the civil case, they were going to run it like a political campaign. And for everybody listening, that's what you should think about here. That the Trump cases were run like a political campaign by a filthy, corrupt judicial. Yeah, they are politically motivated and there were things that were done that I know were meant to make me look stupid. And, you know, judges admonishing me,

Starting point is 00:15:33 telling me to sit down in front of a jury, the way they spoke. There was nothing I was doing procedurally or in evidence rules that was wrong. Now the press covered it that way because the judge made them think and would say things like, "'You should read the evidence rules.'" And I. Now the press covered it that way because the judge made them think and would say things like, you should read the evidence rules.

Starting point is 00:15:48 And I'm looking and I'm saying, well, I'm trying to be an ethical lawyer here and respectful. But I can't, you can't really talk back to a judge, right? Especially when a judge is telling you they're gonna throw you in jail, which happened on the Carroll case, imagine in a civil case,

Starting point is 00:16:03 because I objected to a PowerPoint slide that I wanted in and he said is not coming in. The PowerPoint slide literally proved everything I had said in the case. It said that, look, if somebody tweets something and President Trump doesn't acknowledge it for five hours, but they're getting hate from trolls, how can you blame President Trump for defamation? That slide was taken out. I was not allowed to bring it in and the jury couldn't see it. But the judge, the way they do it, he did it in front of the press. He didn't do it in chambers.

Starting point is 00:16:33 He does it so that people start to have this narrative. Oh, she's not a good lawyer. Oh, she's not bright. Oh, she's not this and that. Is that what you mean? The judge said he's going to throw you in jail? Yeah, the weird guy. So question, did you guys file any motions against Letitia James for all the

Starting point is 00:16:47 videos and all the rhetoric of I'm gonna go after Trump? How is that not a conflict of interest to get her taken off the case? So her being on the case is different than Fannie Willis. Okay. So Tish James actually doesn't do the cases. She's a figurehead effectively, right? So she's got a team that we dealt with for three years and that team tried the case. She would show up, she would sit in the back, she would have her coffee. She wasn't really trying the case. Now she was giving the directives. She was given the directives much like Merrick Garland. But did we argue selective prosecution a hundred times? Did we argue that she persecuted, prosecuted President Trump to get into office, said it

Starting point is 00:17:26 before that it was improper, that she was unethical, all those things? Hundred times. Was it covered? No. Just like her going to the White House to visit. What I want to ask is how they come up with these numbers and we'll get to that. Let's first go to our sponsor. Go ahead, Rob, and play this clip.

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Starting point is 00:18:50 How do you appraise a property? Here's how you do it. The math formula is this, based on this divided by this times this, compared in the last comps of the last three months, six months, the comps that are from the last three months have more credibility than comps from the last 12 months versus the last two years. And then if you take this formula, you come up with exactly around a 98% accuracy on what should be. This property is worth $1.36 million.

Starting point is 00:19:13 Great. Is there a formula, these judges that have this much power that they have to go through to... No. There is no formula. No. There used to be, I'd love to hear your point on it. There used to be Relative standards like you look at personal injury. Okay, how many days of work did you lose?

Starting point is 00:19:35 What do you earn on your income? What was that? So what is the direct? calculable Compensatory damages, but then this whole thing comes in there of pain and suffering How do you measure that? You measure that on how far John Edwards can push a jury. Remember that presidential candidate? That was his business. And then what you go through is almost like the punitive side, where I award the victim basically a fine against the company that made the defective product. And that can go to the moon based on the heart of the, of juries and judges, and they do whatever they want.

Starting point is 00:20:11 It's all in the courtroom skill, and this company deserves to pay goes beyond how many days did you miss work and what is the, some sort of implied pain and suffering that we can get our arms around. Yeah that's a hundred percent what happened so and don't forget people say well there was a jury well yeah but the jury like I said is under the directive of the judge and the jury before they deliberate gets jury instructions that the judge determines what goes in what goes out so we can argue about it but the judge has the final say. So the judge is directing traffic.

Starting point is 00:20:47 So people have to remember that. Nguyen Goren didn't have a jury. He didn't have a jury, not because I forgot to check a box. He didn't have a jury because he decided there was not going to be a jury. He decided it was an equitable 6312, and I'm getting too much in the weeds probably for the non-lawyers, but they used a consumer fraud statute. Consumer fraud is when Verizon and AT&T is surcharging everybody on their bills two cents more than they should have.

Starting point is 00:21:16 Consumer fraud, Letitia James steps in, this is what she's supposed to do as the AG, and protects the state of New York constituents, takes care of it, sues AT&T, and says, hey, we don't like this. It's like what's going on with Apple right now, okay? The DOJ is going after Apple, saying you can't have a monopoly. So those are consumer fraud statutes. She used a consumer fraud statute against a private company and a private individual because after three years she didn't have anything. So instead she said, okay, I can't find an actual fraud. So after three years of investigation, I'm going to have to use a consumer fraud statute.

Starting point is 00:21:53 By doing that, the judge didn't have to give us a jury. And their own experts didn't come up with numbers like 375. Their own experts, the baddest people they could find couldn't get to that number. And the judge gave Letitia James everything and more than she asked. That's what happened. It was so mind boggling. But of course, Meyer Logos 18 million, of course.

Starting point is 00:22:17 In a small way, what if you have a hundred mile an hour speeding ticket? Okay, the law says you're going to lose your license for six months. But what is the fine in court cost? If you are an 18-year-old arrogant kid rolling your eyes and looking at the judge, that could go from 1,000 to 2,500 just like this because the judge feels that you are not sufficiently, you know, Feeling the pain. Penitent in front of the judge and respectful of the proceeding.

Starting point is 00:22:47 So the judge can do that. You know what? I'm going to charge you a thousand dollar court costs. The last woman there on something could have been 30. But the judge has latitude. But remember, there's no jury in a speeding case. She effectively turned it in to a consumer fraud case where it's one judge acting as arbiter, not a full process with

Starting point is 00:23:06 the jury. Am I summarizing that for the average person? A hundred percent. And by the way, this was, if it was a commercial consumer fraud statute, it should have been in the commercial division. We asked that it be moved as it normally would. We went to the head judge. We said, this should not stay with this guy.

Starting point is 00:23:23 He doesn't understand 6312. This is not his purview. He's a local state guy. He shouldn't be. He's not the commercial division. He's civil division. So they now use the 6312— So they re-amended to a court of appropriate jurisdiction.

Starting point is 00:23:34 So now we've got 6312 in front of a judge that doesn't typically do it because they wanted to keep him on because he was so good to them for three years, and it all was coordinated. So now we're in front of a judge trying to explain to him something that frankly is not in his wheelhouse. And you could tell by the comments. I mean, this guy got overturned, if you look at his history, for one of the worst landlord-tenant decisions in New York. He got reversed.

Starting point is 00:24:01 And he touted during the trial often, you know, I haven't been reversed by you guys yet. Well, now you've been reversed five times, five times. So my point to everybody is, listen, I'm not saying this to scare you. I'm telling you it's a long game, but the appellate division has shown us some sensibility and they've shown us that they're going to give us an opportunity to be heard. And that's all I ask for. Because once you hear it, once you see see it once you look at the witnesses the testimony

Starting point is 00:24:27 This case will not stand it will not stand and going to punitives You know the Carroll case that Bergdorf case you know how much of it was punitive 83 million know much of it was punitive Approximately 60 something of it punitive Don't do it again Pat this would be like Pat. Let's say that you're concerned for a cousin. And you go into family court because you want to be there to represent the person or maybe something there. And they say, hey, you know what? The family court judge is out sick today, but Judge Harris from traffic court is going to come in and hear this. Exactly. And Judge Harris from traffic court is going to come in and hear this. And you would lose your mind and say, no, no, no, no, no, I want a proper family court

Starting point is 00:25:09 judge because I want to take custody of my little cousin and I want to make sure that they're safe. No, no, no, the traffic court judge is fine. He's a judge. That's what they did in New York. And I hate the narrative that we didn't file motions, we didn't check a box, we didn't do this, we didn't do that. We did everything.

Starting point is 00:25:26 We were in the appellate division every week, asking for reversals, asking, fighting. They won't cover it. They don't look at the motions. They don't want that. They want the narrative. The lawyers are dumb. This is bad. He's fraud.

Starting point is 00:25:39 It's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? This is made up. We're in make-believe land right now. But the reality of it is the law in New York allows for this to happen, right? I mean, is that accurate or not?

Starting point is 00:25:55 This should have been in the commercial division. If you look at the law, this 6312 is supposed to go to the commercial division. Commercial division judge, who by the way are very intelligent judges I have a case with President Trump in front of a great judge. He's not a right judge, but he's fair He's but if you're saying supposed to and then how did this happen? They make arguments and and you have look We have so many levels that we have to go through and we still have to make those arguments One of the arguments we're gonna make is this shouldn't have even been in front of this judge. We've made

Starting point is 00:26:26 that argument before. Certain things are timely and I don't want to bore people, but you have to wait until the verdict sometimes to go fight certain things. And now that we have it, we're fighting the case. We take the entire transcript, we take the 11 weeks and we say, okay, guys, now it's done. Now we can see there's been an injustice. Here's the order. Here's the decision. Now we're going to revisit from the beginning what happened. Years and years of investigation. I've been on this case, not for six months, not for a year.

Starting point is 00:26:55 I've been on this case for almost three years. I mean, this case, I've been in an investigation phase. I was dealing with them. They have depositions. They're called special proceedings. They go in, they'll have an EOU, it's called, and you basically get to ask witnesses questions, Leticia James's team, but they cannot have lawyers interject.

Starting point is 00:27:16 You can sit there, I can sit there as a lawyer. They can effectively depose President Trump, but I have no right to object. I have no right to see any of the documents beforehand. Nothing. That has been happening for years. What else is pending? What other things are pending?

Starting point is 00:27:31 Anything else that they can come after money? Well, obviously there's the criminal case that I'm worried about, but that's when I say worried, I mean, I'm worried about corruption. I'm not worried about whether President Trump did anything. He did nothing wrong there either. He was actually president. That's a Michael Cohen, you know, special that one. But no, I mean, it's all the Jack Smith's, you know, so no, no, not really money.

Starting point is 00:27:53 Although I say that and you never know, you know, people can come out of the woodworks, but in a normal world, Patrick, no, we're done. You know, there's nothing that has a trial coming up in the civil world is what you're asking me, a civil arena that would in any way be a threat to President Trump. And even if it did, there is an appellate level and we do have a right to do that. So, you know, we did win on those decisions. Did we win? Did I think he should have paid anything?

Starting point is 00:28:20 No. But did we have a strong day? Yeah, we did. The appellate division came in and was like, whoa we have a strong day? Yeah, we did. The appellate division came in and was like, Whoa, you're not seizing assets, Tish. Calm down with your Twitter role. Calm down with your interest that that I mean, the taunting to put on Twitter, you owe me this. Now you owe me that. Now you owe me that. That is her campaign. That's her campaign. That's her campaign. How much of it is personal at this point between her and the Trump campaign and Trump and you?

Starting point is 00:28:49 Like, is it a personal attack? This is what she campaigned on. It's all personal. It's personal. It's driven by her backers. A lot of these cases, you know, we've seen Reid Hoffman is a major backer for the litigation, the Carroll case. He he backed that I wasn't allowed to talk about that in front of the jury, but he did. You know, I wasn't allowed on that case to play the clip. We should play that clip. Anderson Cooper, E. Jean Carroll on Anderson Cooper saying, rapist sexy. I couldn't tell the jury. The judge

Starting point is 00:29:26 wouldn't let me bring that into evidence. See that's that's where I say you know political campaigns. I get donors, you get donors, we go after it and let the voters decide. There were donors supporting a court case. This became a political campaign. Now the beauty beauty of the US judicial system for all of its warts and flaws is the strength of our appellate system. And the strength of our appellate system, even if you get a corrupt circuit,

Starting point is 00:29:56 like the Ninth Circuit, which is Northern California, the most overturned circuit, which even the best lawyers refer to as the Ninth Circus, has been overturned over and over by the Supreme Court. And what we saw Colorado, a bad state Supreme Court decision goes that this is the voting suppression that they did, goes to the US Supremes and the US Supremes go, nah, no, no, no, no, no, not nine to nothing, even the liberal judges. So the strength of our judicial system is our appellate system and our Supreme Court. However, that's not what they want. They want the headlines of the first case.

Starting point is 00:30:33 That's what they did here. So what's, so what, okay, I'm not going to ask her because she's in the space for you. History, what you've seen. What part of the 450 think he's going to end up, end up, end up paying in the next two years once everything is done? My guess the major my intellectual hope is that it goes to zero on successful appeals that expose the flaws and and not just flaws. You can be flaws in a case, but the errors and the absolute bias that were introduced in because all of the judges actions are appealable. The judge like

Starting point is 00:31:13 a motion you can go back and so my hope is that at some point in time you know that the that the appellate said that the appeal system will work and we will come back to some level of sanity Is it zero? I don't know, but it certainly shouldn't be these numbers Alina. What do you think? Like by the time it's done Is this one of those things where it starts off and a number is so big and everybody who's not in the space like oh My god ends up being only 22 million dollars. Yeah, this is one of those cases Okay, it was that absurd actually and I'm being recorded saying it. It was that absurd. I cannot imagine

Starting point is 00:31:49 a judge who actually cares about their reputation, cares about their dignity, not seeing that for what it is. I really can't. I think that the decision indicates that. You know how I see this, Tom? Here's how I see this. I see this as, let's just say I'm in, and I'm connected with Rob Manfred, OK? And the Dodgers are coming up, and I'm on the Yankees side, OK? And Otani is going through serving a suspension

Starting point is 00:32:22 for his gambling thing that he just got caught on, where the story's getting worse and worse and worse. And pick anybody on the national league. Pick a team that's going to be Dodgers competitors. Who are you going to put up? Pick one of them. Giants. Okay, the Giants.

Starting point is 00:32:35 And I say, hey Rob, here's what I want you to do. I want you to delay Ohtani's beginning of his suspension so it goes through playoffs so he won't be in the playoffs versus let's have the suspension be in the regular season so he comes back from suspension within 17 games left I don't know if you understand what I'm saying with I totally understand what you're saying so so meaning so they if they know nothing's gonna happen with this but it plays the purpose of tying up the money you can't have that money being tied up, because if the money is tied up, the way to raise money changes.

Starting point is 00:33:10 The way to go raise money changes where it's like, well, again, opposing strategist, deceptive, dark, manipulative. You have to come out and say, he's broke. He may have all these properties, but he has no cash. There's a difference between being paper rich and being cash rich. The man has no money. He's going on begging everybody for money. Just the other day he had a meeting with Elon Musk, he started new rumors.

Starting point is 00:33:33 He asked for $300 million. He asked to buy a truzo. It's a very effective tactic from the other side to use. And then, right after election is over with, it's like, you know what, now those things didn't happen. We've got to move on. Okay. I'll give you another story. Look at the case that's going to trial in a couple of weeks, the Alvin Bragg case.

Starting point is 00:33:57 That case was again, investigated for gears. Mark Pomerantz quit working. He was brought in from a law firm that is Biden backed, has connections to Biden, has connections to the Clintons. It's the same firm. Okay, they take him out, pluck him, put him in the DA's office of New York. That's like someone plucking me, putting me in a Trump DA and being like, go after Hunter. That's the equivalent. Put him in. And then they read, they look at everything and they go, we're not bringing this case. He says, I'm running for office.

Starting point is 00:34:30 He gets indicted. People don't realize that. That's what happened with the Stormy Daniels case. It's politics. It's politics in law. You're not supposed to have legal lawfare. It's supposed to be the law. You know, you have church, you have state, you have, it's supposed to be a division.

Starting point is 00:34:50 And there's not now. And if you doubt me, look at the White House logs, look at what I'm telling you. They, there is a book, Mark Pamerantz was so angry at, at the DA's office for not bringing charges against Trump that he wrote a book. Furious, furious because his Trump der's arrangement syndrome was so severe. He was furious. And this is what you were talking about by the way. This kills me. I could not bring this in front of the jury. You would not let me bring this. Just look at her hair before you even place. That's a crazy person hair. She's crazy. Even Anderson Cooper couldn't believe what she just said.

Starting point is 00:35:25 Don't feel like a victim. I was not thrown on the ground in ravish. The word rape carries so many sexual connotations. This was not sexual. It hurt. It just, you know. I think most people think of rape as a violent assault. I think most people think of rape as a, I mean, it is a violent assault. I think most people think of rape as being sexy.

Starting point is 00:35:47 No, watch him cut into the fantasies. We're just going to take a quick break. I don't want to be at work today. By the way, that was my entire defense. And they wouldn't let you play it? I was not allowed to play it. By the way, this is my favorite part. Look what she says to him. Go ahead, Rob. Watch this. Watch what she says. Fascinating. You're fascinating to talk to. She said that to me. She said that to me. She said she liked talking to me. How much of the $83 million is she going to see? Zero. Zero. And then I'm going to sue for attorney's fees.

Starting point is 00:36:27 Oh, I can't wait for that. Oh, yeah. So she can't go shopping? You mean she can't take Rachel out shopping? She can't buy her France? Oh, I watched that. I said, I said, Reid Hoffman, I hope you're watching. DNC, I hope you're watching.

Starting point is 00:36:40 This is the person. This is the person you picked. Yeah. She look at, I couldn't talk about her cat's name I couldn't talk about that yeah this this look at these people well you talked about using some of Trump's money that you're about to get to help shore up women's rights do you know what that might be what that might look like yes such great ideas for all the good I'm going to do with this money. Psycho.

Starting point is 00:37:09 First thing, Rachel, you and I are going to go shopping. We're going to get completely new wardrobes, new shoes. That's really good. Motorcycle for Crowley, new fishing rod for Robbie. Rachel, what are you up to? Yeah, the lawyers are panicking, by the way. Watch. It's your own, Rachel.

Starting point is 00:37:24 Oh my God. No, and then, and then if you find the video of her house, there's a video of her, she's got red hair. Ninety cats? That was another one. No, but the cat's name. Oh, you couldn't say the cat's name? Is this the, of course you know the cat's name. Mouse house.

Starting point is 00:37:37 Welcome to the mouse, oh my god. That's not her. That's her. I call it the mouse house because some very distinguished mice live here. Kahneman lives in the kitchen, Tversky lives in the bedroom. This is my shed. Oh my god. And on that side are the books.

Starting point is 00:37:51 Oh, I tried to get this in, they wouldn't let me. Dude, that wasn't true detective. That's where the psych serial killer lived. On the door are the list of my dogs. Is this a joke? No. Dude! For Kuna De La Spunka.

Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah! This is her. Heidi, Tits, Bloody, and Hepburn. The streams and the rivers were dry, and it so horrified me that I came out and started painting the rocks blue to indicate that there was once a river here. And then after I got done painting the rocks,

Starting point is 00:38:21 I just sort of walked over here and then did that tree and then did that tree and then I did this tree. And then pretty soon I'd done painting the rocks. I just sort of walked over here and then did that tree and then did that tree and then I did this tree. And then pretty soon I'd done this whole forest. She's voting Democrat 100, like that's the Democrat voter base is that person. Patrick, let me flip this. And Alina, I love you on this. Let's say, can we do like a quick case study?

Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah. Okay, you are a criminal defense attorney. Alina takes a gun and is shooting randomly and wounds not kills one of her neighbors. The DA wants to put her away for attempted murder. How would you defend her? You would use every clip and say, my poor client is not mentally capable of standing trial. There's so many of those clips that would say I'm not mentally capable.

Starting point is 00:39:12 No, no, as her attorney, what would you do with all this? I mean, literally. That's what I tried to do. I was not allowed, imagine if you're a jury and you just see those two videos. Are you awarding anybody $83 million? No. Okay, I wasn't allowed.

Starting point is 00:39:27 So then you got these people on CNN and MSDNC going, Haba's a terrible lawyer. I couldn't bring it in because the judge wouldn't let me. So yeah, I had a jury, but the judge, before the jury came in, said, oh, Haba, you're not bringing that. You're not saying that she has a, what is it, a dog named Vagina?

Starting point is 00:39:45 Yeah. Cat named Vagina. Vagina T Fireball. Let's get it right. Vagina T Fireball. It's a cat's name. It's a cat's name. I couldn't.

Starting point is 00:39:53 That sounds like trouble. But no, but if you're saying somebody defamed you, if you're saying somebody hurt you, the most terrible, horrific crime, and my case was just defamation. So you're telling me that I can't litigate through the Appellate Division the first case. That is crazy. Now I have to go on trial for the second case, even though the first case hasn't been determined by the Appellate Division. It hasn't been overseen, right?

Starting point is 00:40:15 So now I've got to go on a trial with this verdict that's insane already. And then I've got to go in and the judge says, oh, no, he defamed her, and that's why people think she's crazy because of what President Trump said. And I can't play those videos of her saying, rape, some people would say rape is sexy, whatever she said, on Anderson Cooper and showing Anderson Cooper cutting immediately, probably talking to her during the break. Completely flummoxed. He sounded like the lawyer from my cousin.

Starting point is 00:40:41 He turned into that guy. No, and the point I'm trying to make for people listening Is that if you had a conservative district attorney and take a break we have to take a quick break Yes, our sponsors wanted us to give a quick shout out to Sorry Tom, okay brought to you by Petco VTF No, it's called PETA save Save this cat. Get her away from Eugene Carroll. He's under duress. Look at his face. I thought PETA was people eat tasty animals. Anyway, I'm confused. No, the point I was making was if you had say a conservative local

Starting point is 00:41:18 district attorney that said, hey, you've shot someone, you wounded them, that's attempted murder, the liberals would come back the other way and say oh no No, no, no, you should let her walk. She was just misunderstood or she's she's mentally not quite all there And they would use every bit of this to let the perp walk You know the saddest thing about this whole thing is this is all the stuff that they're doing obviously on purpose obviously It's called cheating not election interference These are all the talking points that whoever's going to run against Trump is going to use. Even though it's all BS, they're going to be like January 6th, insurrection, all the

Starting point is 00:41:51 felonies, the bloodbath. You know the bloodbath thing is going to come back even though we all know it was all BS? And then rape and all this. These are all talking points that whoever's going to debate is going to use. He was not found guilty. That's what I'm saying. Insurrection for none of them. You know, I mean, it's crazy. That's what I'm saying. Insurrection for none of them.

Starting point is 00:42:05 You know, I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy. And, but more crazy to me, more than any of the PR, any of the TV stuff, any of the politics, more crazy for me, this shouldn't be happening in courts. Yeah. That's the sad part. This is court. We're not talking about TV land.

Starting point is 00:42:20 This is in court. I couldn't play that. So long story short there's nothing else crazy that's going on that they can come after him for money except for criminal cases that we have number two he's gonna put up the hundred seventy five million has to be in an account like the entire one seventy five or ten percent of the one seventy five percent on top of the one so it's one seventy five so seventeen to one ninety two whatever one ninety five exactly like In a bond six Wow they bond it so whole one ninety six the whole amount

Starting point is 00:42:54 Okay, that's a lot of cash guys Yeah, that's by the way the so just so you guys understand when they asked for the 500 Let's call it, but it really was more like six, seven with the 10% on top plus the interest plus whatever. We went to Chubb, the best, brightest insurance carrier. They're great. And we say, hey, we need this bond. They don't do it. There's only seven.

Starting point is 00:43:21 The United States Treasury has strict regulations on who can give that large of a bond. There are only, I think, seven or so bond companies that are actually qualified to do it. So it's not like, oh, you can just go to the open market and say, who's going to help Trump? It's not about that. You can't just put cash, you have to get a bond, you have to put it up, and they only take cash or cash equivalents.

Starting point is 00:43:44 So you can't have an asset and put a lien on Mar-a-Lago. They won't allow that. So people don't realize, and this whole narrative, Trump's broke, Trump's begging for money. No, not even close. If you look at the regulations in our country, the Treasury regulations, it takes the entire globe of bond people, it cuts it down to seven, then it cuts it even smaller and says, OK, now you have your seven, but by the way, you actually have to have cash or cash equivalent. You have to have stocks.

Starting point is 00:44:12 You have to have cash. You have to tell me what smart billionaire has a billion dollars sitting in cash in a bank. Not one. You're stupid. You wouldn't be a billionaire. You would not be a billionaire and by the way president Trump has so much cash more cash than probably anybody I know but you are telling me that that's a no and then they say the whole narrative. He's I thought he was a billionaire

Starting point is 00:44:38 It's gonna but they're gonna and by the way the whole truth social Tom, where's the stock at today? the whole truth social time worth a stock as it is killing it he's going to sell it at sixty six everybody said it was going to pop and drop nope it's staying stable and it's staying around a million and his his take is staying right around not take his ownership of a company he has built once again good trump the entrepreneur built another company at sixty two to sixty six has been the trading range 63 right now look at the market no no that's not right Rob you're what company are you on that's not it Rob no no no that's transit no no no no yeah yeah no he went to DJ it's

Starting point is 00:45:14 not 36 billion no DJ well there's Dow Jones transportation's you want the DJT stock there yeah there we go 66 what I said yep and today we're at a mark cap of 9.47 billion. 60% of that is sitting on $4 billion. Good for him. Anything he touches for six months. Anything he touches turns to gold, I swear. He really is incredibly bright.

Starting point is 00:45:37 That's why they can't stand him. They hate him. Because he's bright, he's smart, and if you try and censor him on Twitter, he'll just create another company and kill it. I don't think people give him enough credit for what a great DJ he is. DJ DJ T is the best. He is. Amazing.

Starting point is 00:45:54 He needs to put that in his resume and go up against like David Solomon and say who's a better DJ and he needs to be DJing. But okay, can we move away from the story or did you have a question? You had one question you wanted to ask or you're good? Oh, go for it. Okay, all right, so let's move away from the story or did you have a question? You had one question you wanted to ask or you're good? Oh, go for it. Okay, all right, so let's move on from this story. In other words, at the end of the day, not a lot is gonna happen, but it's just a circus,

Starting point is 00:46:13 it's a great show that they're doing it. We'll see how the market's gonna react to it. Let's go to a different case, Rob. John Stewart, okay? John Stewart's story comes out. I think it's a New York Post story, page 11 if you guys want to go to it. Okay, so John Stewart found to have overvalued his New York City home, Alina, by 829%. After labeling Trump's civil case not victimless, John Stewart criticized Trump's civil case

Starting point is 00:46:43 over inflated property value, stating this has never been prosecuted. In response to Express Framing, the case as non-harmful, it was revealed that Stewart's Tribeca duplex sold for $17.5 million in 2014, a staggering 829% more than it assessed value at $1.882 million. Internet sleuths uncovered Stewart's property history, leading to accusations of hypocrisy Stewart's penthouse sale price after far exceeded its assessed value, raising questions about his own benefit from overvaluation with political commentator Tim Pool alleging

Starting point is 00:47:20 did John Stewart commit fraud when he sold his penthouse for 17 and a half million if if that's the case Rob is this the clip or what it what is this here? This is a clip of John Stuart talking about the civil fraud case and how it's not a victim is crime go ahead and play this clip Rob Because they are not victimless crimes First the banks got paid back at lower interest rates although to be honest who gives a shit It's got paid back at lower interest rates, although, to be honest, who gives a shit? But second, money isn't infinite. A loan that goes to the liar doesn't go to someone who's giving a more honest evaluation.

Starting point is 00:47:52 So the system becomes incentivized for corruption. And this is part of a different Trump fraud case, but avoiding taxes hurts all of us. Donald Trump shenanigans cost the city of New York. And to be honest, and let's be frank here, that is money that the city of New York could have used to build more Walgreens. Now, so lots. That's not funny. You can pause right there.

Starting point is 00:48:18 So how different is this case versus what they're accusing Trump of doing? I don't even know where to start with it. You almost turned into Anderson Cooper. I'm so angry by watching that. I actually hadn't seen that. I heard the story. It's no different, but the reality is that Trump actually didn't. If anything, his properties were undervalued.

Starting point is 00:48:43 He put Doral at some, a couple of, I don't even remember the numbers, but Doral's worth way more than it was on there. I mean, the statements were actually undervalued. And his statements were prepared by an accountant, accounting firm, not a small accounting firm, a major accounting firm, who put a cover sheet saying, do your own due diligence, folks, but this is what we estimate we're worth. Just like anybody in New York.

Starting point is 00:49:11 It's like, okay, let's even say in some made up land the numbers were high, which they weren't. Let's say that, okay? Then you got a sheet that says right on the front, excuse me, do your own due diligence. On top of that, who is President Trump going to? Deutsche Bank. He's right.

Starting point is 00:49:30 You know what, Jon Stewart, the only thing that was right, you're right. He went to Deutsche Bank. He didn't go to a mom and pop. He went to one of the highest regulated banks to get loans that he actually didn't need. It was solely because of, you know, mortgage. It's what you do. It's how you make money. It's better to have a mortgage sometimes when you don't need it.

Starting point is 00:49:45 And they've got paid off early, they made money, okay? And who is the victim? Now, in his case, I wanna see what they do with it. Is he gonna be investigated for three years? Where are you, Tish? Where you at? You're gonna go after your own? No one is above the law.

Starting point is 00:50:01 Show me. Show me. And by the way, we can help her if Letitia James is watching. That clip should be used in her case against him, by the law. Show me. Yep. Show me. And by the way, we could help her if Letitia James is watching. That clip should be used in her case against him, by the way. Let me help you, Letitia. You should play that video. I'm sure you'll be allowed to play videos.

Starting point is 00:50:12 I'm not, but you will. You know, let's see it happen. Let's see. No one is above the law. I can't, when I hear that, the hypocrisy in that statement. Show me. 829% over value of his New York City home. And that's a personal profit.

Starting point is 00:50:27 Why don't they use the same consumer statute against him like they used against Trump? Is Jon Stewart actually going to court for this? No, no, no. Not yet, but I'm happy to assist. No, not yet. No, no, this is just showing. Assess was 1.88 or whatever the number and it's sold for 17 or 18 and a half. I think that He got it. Look we're highlighting the hypocrisy. It's all hypocrisy. It's hypocrisy

Starting point is 00:50:52 It is and it's and again, let's look double standard you nailed it. And let's talk about John Stewart for a second He's a shill for the left still Trump derangement syndrome at the highest He had to come out of retirement just to talk shit about Trump for this year, for election year, because nobody was watching The Daily Show. Let's be honest, nobody. Nobody watches it. Period. And that victim that you're talking about, I mean, Duncan Brown. I hadn't even seen that. Talented. I don't watch none of that crap. But that victim, remember the victimless,

Starting point is 00:51:16 the victim, John Stewart's victim? Whoever paid that. Yeah, lost $4 million on that deal. And you nailed it. Letitia James will help you. He shoots out in New York the address is on New York 11th Avenue What John Stewart Daily shows they shoot there go get him go get him So I want at least I want the people to understand guys that taxpayer dollars. Okay, you want to talk a taxpayer dollars Let's talk taxpayer dollars. Yeah, the Trump Organization Donald Trump creates thousands of jobs

Starting point is 00:51:44 Yeah, thousands of jobs. Thousands of jobs. They pay hundreds and hundreds of millions in employment taxes to the state of New York. Do you know what you just did, Tish? You are running businesses. The Trump Organization that makes the city money, more money than you will ever make in a judgment. That's year after year.

Starting point is 00:52:02 You're pushing businesses out of the state of New York. John Stewart's of the world the talking heads the silliness The silliness for politics you are hurting the state of New York because people are watching and don't who here has not heard from somebody In New York, I'm getting the hell out Everybody the majority people that I've talked about except for the ones that are in their little bubble that you know Like Robert De Niro who when they asked them like Hey, what's up with this crime? The National Guard, he's like, yeah, I, I don't see it yet because you're guarded, you're guarded with people with guns. So you don't see it. But again, and I've been saying this for a while, Alina, until it spreads and it starts

Starting point is 00:52:39 hitting them, like with anything, with the open border, until one of their kids, God forbid, something happens with their kids or their family where an illegal does something to them then their tune stays the same but wait until it starts happening to them no but even when that happens they'll somehow blame Trump oh for sure they do they'll say that well Trump didn't finish building the wall well why didn't he finish building the wall yeah because you wanted to mess around with an election bring in millions and millions and millions of people illegally so that they now let's give them all voting rights and let's give them 10 grand.

Starting point is 00:53:11 Oh yeah. Guess what? I just went overseas last week. I came in and I go, Oh, wait a minute. I have to give my passport to customs. Why? That's what I said. I go, why?

Starting point is 00:53:21 And are you going to give me a credit card for 10 grand? I'd like one. Please. And a phone. And a phone. And I would like somebody to get kicked out of a hotel in New York so that I can stay for free. Yeah, veterans.

Starting point is 00:53:31 Which by the way leads me to a great story. Oh boy. Of this governor who's doing a phenomenal job in the great state of Florida, DeSantis, eliminates squatter rights. Yeah. Okay. Gives power to cops to remove offenders because a couple squatters rights, okay, gives power to cops to remove offenders

Starting point is 00:53:46 because a couple squatters in New York, one guy Venezuelan, illegal Venezuelan I believe, is teaching people how to actually go squatting in New York. I don't know if you saw this step-by-step process on how to do it and how they're protected and this is what DeSantis does. Governor DeSantis signed legislation into law eliminating squatter rights, stating, we are in the state of Florida ending the squatter scam once and for all. The new law effective July 1st criminalizes squatting and empowers property owners to swiftly remove squatters.

Starting point is 00:54:18 Addressing previous challenges where squatters were treated as tenants, requiring lengthy legal battles for eviction, DeSantis highlighted the severity of the issue by comparing Florida's challenges where squatters were treated as tenants requiring lengthy legal battles for eviction. DeSantis highlighted the severity of the issue by comparing Florida's approach to states like California and New York. Rob, do you have the video of him explaining this? Go ahead and play this clip. Does your house belong to you or if you are not using it can someone just come in squat for a period of time, and then claim that they have a right to be there?

Starting point is 00:54:49 This so-called squatter scam is something that's happening around the country. There's even videos telling people how to go in and take over an empty house. That was never how the law was supposed to work. And in Florida, we are gonna take action today to end this scam and to protect the private property rights of our homeowners.

Starting point is 00:55:12 You should not have anyone go on your property and take it over and then try to assert some rights. It's absurd. We're gonna put an end to it today and we'll be leading the way yet again in the process. The one thing you gotta give this guy credit for goes on to policies and getting stuff done like from that Marketing but the stuff some of the stuff he does want it

Starting point is 00:55:29 So you know what this makes you want to do as a real estate as an investor yeah like okay? If I'm gonna buy a house if I'm gonna buy properties if I'm gonna rent it out if I'm gonna do something guess what? Come to Florida. You don't have to worry about it because in California, God forbid, Moral, a relative director, they had a person living in one of their houses in Valencia that we can't get some of these people out. What do you mean you can't get the people out? Well, because the law, the way it works, you can't sell it, you have to wait for this, you have to wait for that.

Starting point is 00:56:02 Literally, you have to go through that process. I'm glad the fact that he's doing this in Florida. It's true. And I think there was a sheriff in Florida that actually said something in a press conference and said in the state of Florida, if somebody breaks into your home, you have the right to use a weapon and shoot. I love that. I'm a Second Amendment girl.

Starting point is 00:56:19 So I love, I'm all for that because in the world that we're living in, I hope you're armed and ready. If I left my house and somebody I came back, oh, you know what I'm going for that because in the world that we're living in I hope you're armed If I left my house and somebody I came back, bro You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna call and have them bomb it like for the termites and while they're in the house and I have a rob Keep the one of the clips I sent you if you don't mind I have a feel-good story for everybody at home because I know we we covered the story of that Venezuelan Illegal migrant influencer those on sick like making those videos. Remember that guy for squatting motivational speaker amateur lawyer. Guess what he's now a fugitive after fleeing ICE custody and he posted a snotty sobbing clip over being

Starting point is 00:56:54 threatened by very powerful people, his family's being in danger and people looking for where he's staying and his accounts being... look at our friends, look at our boy, poor kid, but look at this idiot. Yeah. Oh no. He can't play this rap. The music? No. He has a booger in his nose. Like he's crying because now he can't squat,

Starting point is 00:57:16 the baby situation, they're gonna take the baby away, and now he feels threatened for his life. So now all those videos that he made where he was like, everybody come here, take advantage, he's in places showing how to how to steal and not get caught. Well good for you. I know where he'd be nice and safe and comfortable. California? Caracas. Oh yeah no shit. Get out of here bro. Yeah this guy this is the guy. What did he do? This is the guy. Feel free to use your gun. Oh let me see this. We don't know what homeowner which homeowner shot at him I guess they think that they did something wrong, which they did not if somebody's breaking in your house

Starting point is 00:57:50 You're more than welcome to shoot him in Santa Rosa County. We prefer that you do actually I don't know who you are, but I would love to meet you. Who is that? And if you take that, you'll shoot a lot better. That's what good, that's what good. No, no, no, back up 30 seconds, Pat. See the other part of it. If you take a gun safety class, listen. Whoever that was, you're not in trouble, come see us.

Starting point is 00:58:13 You're not in trouble. We have a gun safety class we put on every other Saturday, and if you take that, you'll shoot a lot better, and hopefully you'll save taxpayers' money. And save taxpayers' money. So this is where? This is California? Florida, Florida. Oh. and hopefully you'll save taxpayers money. And save taxpayers money. Save taxpayers money. This is where? This is California? Florida! Florida! Santa Rosa's in Florida.

Starting point is 00:58:32 Santa Rosa County Sheriff Bob Johnson. I love you Sheriff Johnson. Bro, because I'm telling you right now, if people see that video that won a squat, they're gonna be like, nah, let's probably not. Let's not do that. Let's go to New York. Let's go to New York! Why squat over here? But what are squatter laws across the country though? Let's not do that. Let's go to New York. Let's go to New York. California. Why squat over here? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:58:46 But what are squatter laws across the country though? What is the most, I'm on this Newsweek article from two days ago talking about different squatter laws by state, Arkansas. In Arkansas, squatters can claim ownership of a property after seven years of occupying it unless it's a- It's like adverse possession, yeah. So you can sit, it's the same thing, by the way, this is good for people to know. It's like one of those law school things that they teach you and every state's different.

Starting point is 00:59:09 But let's say that you have a fence on your house and your house is actually five acres, but your fence in three acres of that five acres and then your neighbor starts using the two acres that aren't fenced in. It's like adverse, it is adverse possession after a certain amount of time. The years depend on the state. So because you waived your right to effectively protect your space,

Starting point is 00:59:32 they could say, hey, I've been using this two acres for the last 11 years. Effectively, it's mine. Oh, wow. And then you're in litigation and all kinds of stuff. So it's really funny. They can do that, but they could come after Trump and take his home in six months. Right?

Starting point is 00:59:48 It's crazy. Yeah, it literally says that it becomes, they must show proof of their presence of the property, including having made improvements to the property and paid property tax. The squatter must not be sharing the property with anyone else. California squatters and Golden State can claim ownership of a property after living there continuously for five years as long as they can. This is- So there's a law, family law, there was, and it's pretty much debunked now, but there's,

Starting point is 01:00:14 and I'm not a family law attorney, I'll say that, could you imagine if I was. It'd be hilarious. But there is a case, it's the same thing, if you're in a relationship for a certain amount of time and you're living and acting like you're married, you're effectively married and can get, let's say you break up, it's like having no prenup and you lose half your stuff. That's why.

Starting point is 01:00:33 Isn't that the very, in law school, they teach you about the actor, Lee Marvin and Michelle Triola. Right. I think that was the calc. And that's why the right thing to do is to create term limits in marriage. I mean, you.

Starting point is 01:00:43 I got it, got it. There should create term limits in marriage and you Should be term limits. Okay, you go to the kids you go to the loss. Hey, we're running for second term I think you guys cut it right now Elected 21 years in a row. I'm undefeated and I'm Proud of you man. You're like some of these senators that stay for 40 years. That's so funny. I'm not leaving. Hilarious. By the way, how they make you, you want to talk about squatters the reverse, when you're getting divorced, you are not, like in New Jersey, I have friends that are getting divorced and they have to stay in the same house as the person they're getting divorced from because the person

Starting point is 01:01:18 that leaves could look like they abandoned the property. Oh my god. Imagine. Oh my god. So now you're getting divorced and you have to stay in the house. And by the way, if I was the governor, I would say we have to document it to make sure you guys are getting along. So record it, vlog it, because it's so entertaining. Pure entertainment. Here's a Johnson family this afternoon at six o'clock. This is my bathroom. I'm not washing you clothes no more. Valuetainment. No dinner for you. Oh my God, that's so funny. This is why I love you. I want to stay married, just like Joe Biden, to the end, till I end my marriage drooling down a flight of stairs. And you're on the way.

Starting point is 01:01:50 That's it. Well, listen, Tom, we're proud of you, buddy. So okay. Looking forward to it. All right. So let's see what we got here. Next story to go to, Rob, let's go through Ronna McDaniel. Interesting things going on there with Ronna McDaniel.

Starting point is 01:02:01 Obviously, she's a sweetheart, a lot of people are, what Vivek did with her was legendary at one of these debates. However, so she comes in, NBC gives her a contract, I think it's 200, it's what is it Tom? It's 300? 300 for two years and let me read the contract so you kind of get an idea and then you'll see what some people are talking about it. The people at NBC lost their minds coming to get this in, we got to get rid of her, there's no way she should have a job here. Ronna McNeil expected to be paid out for her $600,000 NBC contract, fully to be paid by NBC for being dropped after just four days of announcing she was joining the network

Starting point is 01:02:45 as a political contributor. The ex-RNC chair's contract was $300,000 a year for two years. Politico reported with her lone appearance on NBC's Meet the Press on Sunday that lasted less than 20 minutes. That amounts to $30,000 a minute. She made $500 a second. McDaniel has not spoken publicly about her short-lived tenure since the announcement on Tuesday evening from NBC that she was being dropped, but political reports that she is

Starting point is 01:03:10 lawyering up and spoke with Brian Friedman on Tuesday about her legal options, even beyond recording the money from her original contract. Rob, do you have a couple new videos based on some of the reactions people are having? Go ahead and play this one. Here's Joy Reid and Rachel Maddow. Joy Reid- Our chairman of the NBC Universal News Group, Cesar Conde, who we both know very well, he sent a memo that we all got as employees here rescinding the hiring of Ronna Romney McDaniel.

Starting point is 01:03:38 And I know I felt very strongly about it. I know you felt very strongly about it. I think everyone from four o'clock on, from Nicole all the way way to midnight We all felt very strongly and said so on our respective shows Yesterday and I just have to say when somebody does the right thing I feel like it should be acknowledged as publicly as we acknowledged our outrage and so I I know how I feel about it I am grateful to Caesar for actually making the right decision I think it was the right decision, but I want to get your take as well. Oh Thank you for asking me about it. I still feel like a little, it always feels wrong to talk about things, you know, in the company as if it's news.

Starting point is 01:04:14 And I, you know, it's just this, it's not the way you and I are wired. I know. But I will just say that journalists are a fractious bunch. And in our big company with all sorts of different journalistic entities, you have all sorts of different people working in this business, doing all sorts of different kinds of work. And to see the essentially unanimous feeling among all the journalists in this building,

Starting point is 01:04:37 and all the senior staff, and all the producers, and everybody in this building about this, was one thing. But then to see the executives and the leadership hear that and respond to it and be willing to change course based on it, based on their respect for us.

Starting point is 01:04:52 Call the coup and you should be ashamed of yourself if you run that company. And that's why you're an echo chamber. Exactly. That's also why you're rating stuff. Yeah, and by the way, listen, Ronald McDaniel, I can care less, I mean, just going up, Vivek said, and we were there, I'm sick and tired of this Republican establishment that has made us the party of losers All right, where's the accountability? Ronna McDaniel since she was in he goes losing 2018 2020 2022 2023 It almost seems like to me. I'm always that guy looking, you know from a different angle

Starting point is 01:05:18 It's almost as if they wanted to lean I know Adam we talked about this last week like they were like Alina They feel like hey Ronna go in there and just lose your ass off Make them lose the lose and when you're done we'll give you a job We'll give you a job at MSNBC, we'll give you $600,000 And guess what happened? The employee said, whoa you guys didn't run that shit by us Because at the end of the day Anything different than these two

Starting point is 01:05:41 Or Chuck Todd, I would love to see that It would have been a change But they're threatened by that oh 1000% I want to hear another person at least give us a new face like have you be honest have you ever sat and heard Rachel Maddow for her whole segment it's excruciate I tried to five days a week I'm it's called mental toughness that's how you you do it. You're gonna be mentally tough. Oh my God. Wait a minute. You know, and I heard this, like, you know the terrorists

Starting point is 01:06:09 that we catch and we want to find out if they have information? The hell with torturing them. Just tie them up, play MSNBC Rachel Maddow. They will spill all the, they'll be like, just don't play hard. Yeah, but they like that stuff because that's how they got in.

Starting point is 01:06:21 Oh yeah. And they got a check. Yeah, no shit. Ugh, it's standard. Ronald McDaniel is now the poster child for being politically homeless. Adam, first of all, your voice is already bad and you're distancing yourself from the mic. Like, get closer to the mic guy.

Starting point is 01:06:36 Trying to respect the mic. Get close to mic. Rhonda McDaniel is the poster child for being politically homeless at this point. She's got nowhere to go. She's not gonna go to the left's not going to go to the left. She's not going to the right. Well, that's what it used to be Liz Cheney used to be Adam Kissinger.

Starting point is 01:06:49 She's nowhere. She's in no way. Exactly. And that's just that sort of symbolic of where we're at in politics. You're either far left in the Bernie camp or on the right with Magga with Trump or you're done. Yeah. So what is she like?

Starting point is 01:07:01 What do you like? Because she obviously she wants to work. What do you do? She does nothing. What do you do? She becomes a lobbyist. Yeah, probably that's it. I mean she just made 600 grand bro for how long was she on there for half an hour? 20 minutes. 20 minutes. If she got paid out. Well look, there's a well-worn path. The well-worn path is at the end of an administration or when you leave your job in government and it doesn't matter where they're working for Republicans or

Starting point is 01:07:24 Democrats, there's a path that's a well-worn path that goes to New York and you either go to book publishers or you become a commentator. It's there. Jen Psaki's got her show. They all go there to continue to spout their drivel or to write a book that's got a tell-all, some juicy encounters with and then you have to be sexual about some lobbyists did this we did this legislation was this and that's the game that's played and Caesar Conde is the guy that was running the nonprofit inside of a cable company called MSNBC and he was attempting to hire somebody

Starting point is 01:07:57 to diversify and to get something that he doesn't have right now ratings and guess what it backfired because the inmates are running the asylum and now the employees are saying, no, no, no, no, you don't get to hire that guy, we're all upset about it. And I think most of them, I think the word that was used here was threatened, I think they were threatened.

Starting point is 01:08:13 They know the conservative views or anything that's on the conservative side tends to get ratings. So it is a threat to them, despite Ronald McDonald's laws. But it's both sides, them despite Ronald McDonough's flaws. But it's both sides Tom. Let me explain to you. The right is the same way as well. I agree. Some of the podcasters, when we announced Cuomo's joining the crew, right? Oh my God, you know, I can't believe it though. Biggest

Starting point is 01:08:39 huge f-up. I'm unsubscribing, believe it. And guess what happened? The next live was the biggest ever. And the next live, and the next live, and just us, how home team. This Tuesday was the biggest live on YouTube worldwide. And the next one, and the next one, and the next one. So sometimes when you make a decision, you make a decision knowing there's going to be some backlash. But that makes noise. Guess what? You're a leader. Stand that makes noise. Yeah. I mean, what's just good? Guess what?

Starting point is 01:09:05 You're a leader. Stand up for yourself. You're worried about people bitching about you. So guess who's running the, what's that saying? The inmates are running the asylum. The inmates are running the asylum. Right. I mean, that's NBC right now.

Starting point is 01:09:16 1000%. NBC's being ran by the inmates and you're afraid because you brought in Ronna McDaniels. By the way, it's the perfect person they brought in. She was ready to throw Trump under the bus, it's the perfect person they brought in. She was ready to throw Trump under the bus like it's the ideal Republican you were bringing in. And I'm not saying she was going to throw him. The view girl that they brought in. But the point being is, it was a perfect person for that.

Starting point is 01:09:36 I think so. It's an establishment Republican that was coming in. Keep her. It's going to be very hard to find somebody like that as coming in from being the RNC chair, but I actually think this is a loss for NBC and it's a bad look for the leaders at the top of NBC. And who's the CEO of MSNBC? Rashida Jones? Who is it? Who's the CEO?

Starting point is 01:09:55 No, she said it's Cesar Conde is the guy who leads the whole thing. But who's the CEO? I've heard that name. I think she may be the news division executive vice president or something. So basically, Tom like think about this That's like Patrick bringing Cuomo me you and Adam going on our own podcast and going what the hell is wrong? What the F is Patrick doing he He got Cuomo? What? I thought Pat's head would just come into the seat.

Starting point is 01:10:27 It would be entertaining. Hi, Patrick! And you nailed it. What kind of CEO are you? No, no, no, in the next day, you're at Starbucks talking to someone saying, would you like non-fat milk? Yeah, yeah, and I'm like, no,

Starting point is 01:10:38 I look like the guy that was on there. That's not me. Why is Vinnie at Starbucks now? I don't know. Guy pulls me aside, I'm in St. Augustine, he says, do people ever tell you you look like Patrick B. David? I get that all the time. Do you ever tell anybody you look like Trump's lawyer?

Starting point is 01:10:54 I go, oh my God, I hear that prayer. All the time. By the way, half the time I'm in a Home Goods and I don't want people to know that. Yeah, of course. You know what, I can't stand her. Did you see what she did the other day? Yeah, what a little play.

Starting point is 01:11:06 By the way, you want me to tell you what happened to me yesterday? I was in a store and somebody said to me, I heard the girls over in the corner saying you're on the news a lot. What news station? And I said, if you're asking me that, I want to know. That's so funny. And she goes, what news? I said, Fox. And she goes, oh, you're not. I don't want to know. That's so funny. And she goes, what news? I said,

Starting point is 01:11:25 Fox. And she goes, oh, you're right. And I was like, bye now. Bye bye. Bye bye. Go watch The View. Go watch The View. Although in fairness, I go on CNN. I do. I do. I go, I'm not afraid of the others. I like, I think that's, by the way, where we need to be heard. Would you love to be on The View for an episode? Like if they were just like, hey, I mean, they would never ever do it. I have said on national television, they've played clips of them talking about me. And I've said this on, I think I was on Hannity or somebody and they played a clip and I was like, where's my invite? Yeah, I would love to see their audience. I wish the camera flip once just to see the audience of The View. Oh my God, imagine what that bunch of guys. Rachel Maddow's never invited me.

Starting point is 01:12:02 No, of course not. What a great point. Palin Collins has. She has. I've gone on with her. And we had a really respectful conversation and you know and then of course she invites you know an ex-Trump to talk about me and be nasty. But I think that that's what's missing in our country. I think so too. Why can't you just talk? You know stop talking about me. Talk to me. I'm you know stop talking about me talk to me. Yeah, I'm clearly available Sit there talk to me and talk about it. Let's talk about it We don't have to be on the same side, but we don't have to bash Yeah, could you know the chambers are killing or because if you notice this I think to each other You did a shout out for for somebody you challenged somebody when when have you ever seen a Rachel Maddow? Joy Reed?

Starting point is 01:12:46 When have you ever seen a Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Bajar, have they ever left their little room, their little audience and come to talk to somebody different? How about get the hell out of there? Do it in a respectful way. Are you capable of doing that? They can't do it. They would never do it because guess what? They don't have an audience that's told when to applaud, told when to ooh, because they would have no argument.

Starting point is 01:13:02 Because by the way, I watched a clip, Joy Behar is talking to the guests, but she's reading a teleprompter or something on the side. It's not you, you're just a mouthpiece and you nailed it. If we can't have that conversation, that dialogue, you're just there, because Joy Reid got caught too, remember that time, where they cut too, and she's like, another effing war? She doesn't even believe it.

Starting point is 01:13:21 She's doing it for the money. Now what's your price? They figured it out, Vinny, they figured it out. Because if you go back 12 years ago, they used to invite Ann Coulter on. And Ann Coulter would kick people's asses. And so they sat back there, okay, strong, educated woman who's highly professional.

Starting point is 01:13:40 Maybe we don't want this girl on here kicking the ass of our host. Me on Dana Bash, did you see the clip of me with Dana Bash? I have not. I want to see it. Rap! Is it good? How long is that moment?

Starting point is 01:13:51 Not that long, but she was bringing up things from 20... This one's fantastic. I went crazy. I love how you ended it. What? Please, do we see it? Is that okay? Zoom in. Watch this. Beast mode.

Starting point is 01:14:03 Beast mode, yeah. I'm sorry, I thought he was gonna win. No, he got music, he has music. Well, she was asking me about the women that came out of the woodwork from 2016. This was like last, right before the Carroll case or something, I'm like, wait, I'm sorry, what are you talking about?

Starting point is 01:14:19 It hit me, I was like, that's the desperation? And I just went ham. Oh, ham on her? Ham, and by the way, who yeah, that's what you have to do You can't play those games with me. It's not right, and it's it's just not right They probably don't even have it on there cuz you bash no they won't that's funny They didn't even have they literally flipped out they flipped out. They were like we can't have a hob on see flipped out they were like we can't have a hob on CNN. Get her the hell out of here.

Starting point is 01:14:45 There it is. You got the producer in her ear. Commercial commercial commercial. Yeah like Anderson Cooper with the rapist. Is that it Rob? That's it. Yes. Well don't listen and watch the ad.

Starting point is 01:14:56 Boy so for something like that they reach out to you and they're like hey we want you to come talk to her? Yeah I don't reach out to people. Yeah you don't? I don't reach out to people. Yeah what are you talking about? Oh this is it? This is it. I don't reach out to people. I don't reach out to people. They reach out to me. What are you talking about? Oh, this is it?

Starting point is 01:15:06 This is it. You feel completely comfortable with the fact that the money, some of the money that President Trump has used in his defense comes from political donations, and that you believe that that is different from a donation that is given the women's part. Where she starts asking me about women. Case for the first case that she brought. You'll see facial reactions from Alina. Alina's not talking about people. I don't have a poker face. You're going to see smoke coming out of her ears, then stop. This was specifically about sexual assault today and defamation. Before I let you go...

Starting point is 01:15:46 That's right. It was money. Yeah. My final question to you is, I mentioned that there are 15 women altogether who have alleged that Trump sexually harassed or assaulted them. Are you concerned that more of this... Are we talking about 2016? Hold on, hold on. Are you concerned that... I have not gotten a talking about 2016? Hold on, hold on.

Starting point is 01:16:05 Are you concerned that... I have not gotten a complaint for 15 women. All told. All told. Not that you've gotten a complaint. That have become public. Are you concerned that this case that we've seen today... Since 20s, are you talking about 2016?

Starting point is 01:16:16 Is that the desperation that we're at right now? Are you concerned that the case that we saw today that it is maybe just the beginning that other criminal acts of that smile and I give that smile you're in the future no I think you're concerned that he is gonna win which is why you're bringing up 2016 things because you have nothing to bring up that's what I think you're concerned and you should be concerned he's leading in the polls okay journalist I am NOT concerned about anything. I'm asking you as one of his attorneys

Starting point is 01:16:48 about things that are out there. And in addition to what you are here to talk about. Is that what we're talking about? Great. Are you talking about 2016? Give me a year. These 15 women. Are we talking about 2016 when he was running and almost

Starting point is 01:17:02 won and then did win? It is not relevant with the other all of it now it's not to me about fifteen women i don't have fifteen women that have come forth with a claim of that where are they are not going to happen she lost i think you're trying to get a much like this is a very important with the claim

Starting point is 01:17:21 she said that they have may have made public statements. I said they have made public statements. And my question was, are you concerned about this? In 2016, and you have nothing to put 2020 for. Thank you for your time. I wish you could just go into her screen. She goes, thank you for your time.

Starting point is 01:17:36 I hope to talk soon, because there's a lot more to discuss as you go on with your appeal. I hope so. As soon as I have not been invited back. I would pay to see what she said about you right when the camera stopped. Yeah Look at Dana bash that is an example of a journalist that half of that. She didn't want to be there She did it she's on a segment. She's sensing where this is going and she does not want to continue to line of questioning Yeah, she's got the teleprompter. She's got the thing on her. She's not a journalist

Starting point is 01:18:04 She's a talking head and that's the segment they were gonna run transition. Let's let's leave her alone Let's be bad. She's got bad time right now. Give her some space So next you guys hear about the announcement the Nickelodeon new CEO do you hear about this like out of everybody they could have hired as a new see you hear about no This is breaking news or go drop plate the plate Nickelodeon's not did he make the load he hired as a new president of Nickelodeon studios according to Babylon B which by the way oh my very strategic why Nickelodeon higher at a time like this that's kind of weird

Starting point is 01:18:41 well maybe he needs to pay for legal legal defense fund. Or maybe it's a satire website. Babylon B. It's a satire website. For the people that are freaking out right now. I was just going to say, it's Babylon B. By the way. It's funny. They do funny stuff. Honestly, this is, you know, obviously, there's nothing funny about what Nickelodeon did with

Starting point is 01:18:57 Schneider. Nothing. And there's nothing funny about what he's doing. But what an interesting angle for Babylon B to take the story to say that Did he's not going there now I don't even know that's a current picture no the foot of Diddy there was a more updated picture yeah that's the updated photo that Antonio Brown posted that no Antonio Brown who and told there's no way Antonio Brown posted a bee posted go to his Twitter Well Chris from value take this like Vinnie he sent me this and said there's no way he posted that Directed by Dan Schneider.

Starting point is 01:19:47 You don't understand. Oh, I didn't see that. Pat, Pat, Pat. The soundtrack is by, What was the soundtrack by? R.J.L. Jesus Christ. Oh my.

Starting point is 01:19:57 Can we address? No, no, no, it's just a parody. The lawyer is quiet. It's just a parody. Like, I'm not getting sued for defamation. You guys are going down alone. Let's down alone. Can we address some of the legal allegations on this? Is this something that we can even... Is that where you're going?

Starting point is 01:20:12 Yeah, I'd like to know from a legal standpoint what this case is even looking like. Have they even arrested Diddy yet? I know you're not handling this case whatsoever, but everybody is talking about this. It's nonstop. Here we go. These two stepbrothers are out here. From a legal standpoint, what does this look like? The raid, FBI?

Starting point is 01:20:31 So, I mean, you know, you're asking me about a raid. When I've seen raids happen to my clients that have no business happening, I understand that there was a plane with one of his, they called it his drug runner, his 25 year old kid. He was arrested, I know that, I know that obviously there are accusations of trafficking and you've seen a lot of reels been coming up about, yeah that gentleman was arrested. His drug mule. Drug mule, exactly. And you know, his homes were raided.

Starting point is 01:21:05 Obviously he wasn't arrested. He was on a plane, I believe, somewhere near St. Barthes or in the Caribbean somewhere, and he was able to leave the country. Obviously there's no warrant out for his arrest. We would know about that. So something is going on. Do I necessarily believe everything I see? No.

Starting point is 01:21:24 I've gotten past that in the past three years. So we'll wait and see. And I think everybody has a right to have their day in court. I'm not going to be a hypocrite. You don't know. You don't know. And by the way, I'm still waiting on the list from Epstein. How crazy, you know what I'm waiting for?

Starting point is 01:21:40 Show us one minute from one of the cameras that he had in his house. Just one of them. Because a report came out yesterday that somebody showed a little camera when they did the FBI raid. They were everywhere in the house. That's what they do. That's what they do. So blackmail you. I saw it with Trump, with Mar-a-Lago, and I was with the president when that raid happened. I was with him in New York, and I was sitting there when we got the call

Starting point is 01:22:05 that your home is currently being raided and over documents, over documents and he had a right to have that Biden didn't. Okay. So, so we're sitting here watching this hypocrisy and I have to say, you don't know, you know, he, he, I never know, you know, he had an ex girlfriend, I think that was upset her ex fiance. I never know. He had an ex-girlfriend, I think, that was upset, her ex-fiance. She made accusations. They obviously have to do what they have to do to investigate those. Those are serious crimes.

Starting point is 01:22:30 Sex trafficking, real sex trafficking, anything with minors, I have no tolerance for. Are you talking about Cassie? Yeah. I just wanna show you two clips. Here's Usher on Howard Stern. Rob, how long is the clip that you have? Is this when he asks him about, yeah, this is it.

Starting point is 01:22:47 Puffy Flavor Camp? Yeah, go ahead and play this. Watch it. It's about a minute, right? Okay, wait till the end though. To New York City. And I lived with Sean Puffy Combs for a year. That's the crazy thing.

Starting point is 01:22:57 Now that was L.A. Reid's idea, right? We're sending you over to something called Puffy Flavor Camp. He's 13, it's his time. And let him hear it. Go back five seconds, please go back, because what he called it right there is what's key. Go ahead.

Starting point is 01:23:08 That's the crazy thing. Now that was L.A. Reid's idea, right? We're sending you over to something called Puffy Flavor Camp. There you go. Flavor Camp! Yeah, that's what it was called. And you're going to go to Puff Daddy's.

Starting point is 01:23:19 In the 90s, do you understand what that's like? Puffy's place was like just filled with chicks and orgying, like nonstop, right? No, really. Hey it was curious I got a chance to see some things. Yeah but you were 13 what were you seeing? I went there to see the lifestyle and I saw it. But I don't know if I could indulge and understand what I was even looking at. It was it was 13 years old. So nobody tried to you, some woman didn't come along. I didn't say that. Okay. I understand that.

Starting point is 01:23:47 What I did say is that there were very curious things taking place. Yeah, that's called the rant. And I didn't necessarily understand. When you were 13 and then it all turned out. Biggie Smalls was there. Biggie Smalls was there. Lil' Kim, Craig Mack. All these people are hanging around.

Starting point is 01:23:56 Yeah, man. Faith Evans, Joey C., Mary J. Blige. And your parents were okay? Yeah, good job. They were talking about this shit. I was having a good time, you know what I mean? Did she have a baby? Yeah, she was.

Starting point is 01:24:04 She was. She was. She was. Yeah, man Faith Evans Somewhat or you just like can you stay up to four in the morning with them and party? I mean I could actually stayed up longer than them Okay, how is that normal at any time? Do you have the part where they said, would you let your kids go there? He goes, hell no! Keep playing it Rob, because I think it's at the end. Per dem. I had like a living.

Starting point is 01:24:36 Yeah, it's pretty crazy. 14 years old. You're a dad now. Would you ever send your kid to Puffy Camp? Hell no. See? That's the thing. I have kids I don't even post and then you know the Twitter trolls will be, we're her kids, well I'm protecting them and this is sad. I mean this is sad and this one with Bieber is the same thing. Where are the parents? Yeah well which parent would say you know what we don't know you we know that you're

Starting point is 01:25:01 a celebrity go and hang out with this guy for weeks on end by yourself and At what time at what era is this in the most critical years by the way? Yeah, exactly. How is this? They both turn how is this normal? They both turn into superstars. Yeah, that's the sacrifice you make Yeah, well, yeah, that's the sacrifice and one of them had to go to church and he freaking lost his mind. Can you play this one? How's this? Right now he's having 48 hours with Diddy, him and his boy. They're having the times of their lives like, like, like, you know, where we hanging out and what we doing. We can't really disclose. But it's definitely a 15 year old's dream. You know, I have been given custody of him. You know, he signed to Usher. He signed to Usher. I had legal guardianship of Usher when, you know,

Starting point is 01:25:53 he did his first album, I did Usher's first album. I don't really, I don't have legal guardianship of him, but for the next 48 hours, he's with me, so. And yeah, and we gonna go full. Buck full crazy. We're going crazy. What? That's disturbing, by the way.

Starting point is 01:26:13 Why? That's disturbing. What does that have to do with making music? Yeah. Absolutely. Who was this guy, Rob? Who was the girl? I believe this is a former dancer of Diddy's who talks...

Starting point is 01:26:24 She doesn't give specifics But she talks about some of the things that she witnessed while she was there play the clip. Oh Yeah, you know we all have stories seriously we all have stories Mine is horrific and only five people know it well you're about to be called Yeah, you're about to get sub and I have a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah, you're about to get something says then I've been very intimately aware that you tell your truth and you become victimized over and over and over and over and over and over and mind you I then interviewed him many times.

Starting point is 01:26:58 There's I have a lot of stories, you know, I've been in Hollywood for 25 years maybe longer 30. A lot of stories. Unfortunately. Maybe I'll write a book one day, but it just is so traumatizing that women just want to live every day and feel safe. And when we revisit and revisit, we live in a state of victimhood and nobody wants to live there. So for those who like, why don't you say something then because we just want to live and want to be happy and we really want to forget the trauma So there's that well

Starting point is 01:27:29 Did he made a statement? Really lawyer made a statement or this is something that did he? Wrote right prior to everything's going on called it a witch hunt. Yeah, he called it a witch hunt Yeah, Vinnie you want to read this? Yeah for the last couple of weeks and Rob I just sent you something too if you could please show that for the last couple of weeks I've said silently and watch people try to assassinate my character destroy my reputation and my legacy Sickening allegations have been made against me my individuals looking for a quick payday Let me be absolutely clear. I did not do any of the awful things being alleged

Starting point is 01:28:00 I will fight for my name my family and for the truth the truth, Sean Diddy Combs. Now, this came out, Joy Reid, MSNBC. This guy said one of his friends was an intern, and look what Diddy said for him to get the intern job. Check this out. I saw this last night. He was personally disturbed many years ago, okay? I know this man well enough to call him and say, hey, I need a favor. Yeah. And this might have been 10, 12 years ago that I called him and say, hey, I need a favor. And this might've been 10, 12 years ago that I called him and say, I have a family member who I want you to hire them as an intern. And I have never talked about this publicly.

Starting point is 01:28:34 And he said, yes. And they were flying around, one of the interns, Atlanta, Miami, whatever, on the jet in the house, whatever. And then the internship stopped abruptly, like three or four months into it. And I spoke to my family member, whatever, on the jet, in the house, whatever. And then the internship stopped abruptly, like three or four months into it. And I spoke to my family member, like, what happened? And they wouldn't say. And I'm like, why did it end?

Starting point is 01:28:53 He wouldn't say. And years later, they finally came out, and this is a mail, and said that Puff had said, come home, stay the night with me, or the internship is over. And they said, absolutely not. He said, absolutely not. And the internship ended. But from there I was like, oh.

Starting point is 01:29:13 Like, think about it, Diddy's calling, Diddy said, listen, you want this job? Come, let's hook up, and then you can get the job. And the guy said, no. Like, I think it's, when are we gonna stop pretending that Hollywood? The music industry all these people from Epstein It's not a see like it's not a secret, but we all kind of just like we brush it away Macy's a real serious being interviewed Rob just check to see if there's audio music in it or no

Starting point is 01:29:37 This is mace if you can check where the hell's he been music So check this out so mace. This this is Maze in 2002. He steps away. He's the guy that stepped away and look what he says in this interview. This is 22 years ago. And by the way, Maze is an OG, OG guy. OG in church. He went to church. All is well with him. Have you spoken to Puff Lady? Do y'all talk or what? Well actually, we're not really on speaking terms, but you know, I still pray for the dude and I prayed it all as well with him.

Starting point is 01:30:09 Well people are supposed to be releasing a gospel album. What came to your mind when you heard that? What thoughts did you have? Y'all want me to answer that? I mean yeah. I mean can RuPaul put out a gospel? Can you imagine? But don't you think that everybody can express themselves? I mean they can. You asked me, I'm just answering. Wow. Can RuPaul create a gospel item? He's basically saying a gay man can he put out something? Mace is not a push over lightweight guy.

Starting point is 01:30:46 Oh no! Wow. I actually played basketball with Mace a couple years ago. I was like, oh what are you up to these days? Just with my kids and God, man. Just my kids and God. I was like, good for you, bro. Rob, I don't know if we can play that.

Starting point is 01:31:01 That TikTok thing we talked about with the guy, it's like a procession of, I told this was about to happen, I told it was about to happen, I told this was about to happen. Story and story and story and story. Look, innocent to proven guilty, we get it. Something's fishy out here with Diddy.

Starting point is 01:31:16 We all know that. More than fishy, what do you mean? It's in the ocean and there's fish on you. What are you talking about? There's jaws out here. And again, why would you stop saying fishy? It's there. Like Epstein exposed it. Epstein got caught and they suicided him in jail. Let's stop pretending this game. Diddy and I'm tired of hearing the, oh there's smoke, there's

Starting point is 01:31:35 fire. The house has burned to the ground, bro. How many more people is he going to take to be like, okay, he actually, I was molested or raped. I don't understand why he wasn't arrested. That's what I'm saying What are we talking about if that's truly if they had enough? To go raid the home or you know we'll see what it comes now So yeah arrested people they read at the home to see what they found and then you know what it is Yeah, is there what they're looking for pedophilia exactly like is there a warrant for him because we have to get you have to go To a judge and and there's an emergent judge for these kinds of things and you say look we've done an

Starting point is 01:32:07 investigation we've interviewed these people in a special proceeding or a grand jury and we have reason to believe XYZ we would like to go raid and then the judge signs off on it so there is a procedure for that but I'm so confused because like for instance the Cassie thing right she comes out she does all these depositions she does all these things, and we see, she's written it, she's deposed, whatever affidavit she signed, and she's like, they drug me, they raped me,

Starting point is 01:32:32 they did all this, these are crimes. Where's the DA? And money just shuts it and it goes away? No, no, pay her, but you have to do time. You have to come and face the legal ramifications for drugging and raping women, and God knows what he's doing with kids. How does that work?

Starting point is 01:32:50 I got a video that I, you know, obviously we're not gonna play this video. Okay. But the- Not the audio one, please. Of course, we're not gonna play this video. Did you get this one working by the way? The video that, there's this video with the audio

Starting point is 01:33:04 of a security guy Says I don't drink champagne because he always Bikes the champagne guys pass out and then yeah, and he says seriously But this guy who is in the room But this guy who is in the room, allegedly, I think it's me, the video is the audio recording, and he's putting it out on TikTok. It's gone viral. It's pretty funny. I'm not going to play that clip, but go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

Starting point is 01:33:37 This is when? This is December 14, 2023. Go ahead. But there's multiple videos. Just play one of them, the first one, Rob. Go ahead. Some store just, or some of Puffy's properties be getting raided real slow.

Starting point is 01:33:49 This is three months ago. Because they need to get to those tapes. Oh wow. They get one of those tapes. Yep. With him with those little people that have been making the accusations. Little people.

Starting point is 01:34:00 Woo. Man. Ha ha ha. Done. Wow. But Puffy the type, he'll blow his brains out. Woo! Man! Done! But Puffy the type, he'll blow his brains out. Or do like he did on that court screw lie. How he did. The next thing that's going to be happening,

Starting point is 01:34:23 and after this is now you're going to start seeing some criminal investigations getting opened. Psychic. And because when you get too much of the smoke, law enforcement generally gets involved. So that would be the next thing that will be happening to Puffy, unfortunately, for his sake. Y'all know I'm one that believes if you ain't getting psychological help, getting some type of help. You can pause right there. So, so let me ask you guys a question. So there's a couple of things happening.

Starting point is 01:34:55 When he's talking about, and this was in, what month was it, Rob? February. So it's January, February, and March. So January, he's like, he's predicting, which apparently he's like... He does multiple predictions up until the actual He's obviously a cooperating witness. Yeah. Oh for sure. He's not predicting. So what does that mean? Meaning he's talking to the feds. Yeah No question that guy's gonna be on the same. So so, you know, he's not he doesn't have ESP the guy clearly

Starting point is 01:35:21 That's right was working with the government. Yeah. And it's not Nostradamus. He has a deal. Yeah. But there's two things though, when they were saying that they're looking for those tapes, he could be talking about obviously the law enforcement, the Department of Justice. He could also be talking about what about the powers that be, because the powers that be that killed Jeffrey Epstein, and I'm going to say they killed Jeffrey Epstein. Imagine those phone calls Alina where they're like you pick up the phone. It's like, hey, listen, this is going to come out. They're going to he's going to jail.

Starting point is 01:35:52 He's arrested. He's in prison. We got it. We have to he's going to talk because we have the footage. What do we do with him? How much of an option? Like what's the percentage you guys would put that the powers that be the real people that on the sticks is like you like the bowing guy

Starting point is 01:36:05 Did the bowing whistleblower? Yeah, the guy that was so overwhelmed by Sizing them he shot himself in this head in his car after telling friends and family. I'm not I would never kill myself There's a weird trend going around where when you speak the truth interviewing the lawyer in two and a half hours Yeah, one lawyer. Yeah, we're having the main lawyer in two and a half hours. Oh, I love that. One lawyer? Yeah, we're interviewing the main lawyer in two and a half hours. Are you suicidal? No. You feel good?

Starting point is 01:36:30 I'm not suicidal. I'm not suicidal. I love my life. Me too. Tom, you love your life? Very much so. Okay, good. We're all in agreement on this.

Starting point is 01:36:38 Everybody loves life. I love life. Rob, you say it too, Rob. Rob, say it. Put your pants up. Okay, here we go. We're love life. Rob, you say it too, Rob. Rob, say it. Put your pants on. Okay, there we go. We're all good.

Starting point is 01:36:46 By the way, the whole Baltimore bridge thing, and then let's wrap up with the last Baltimore bridge thing. It's a little weird stuff that's going on. You know, do you have the video, Rob, do you have the video that he keeps backing up, moving, backing up, moving, backing up, moving, at at what 30 in the morning and then eventually until sex It's like me driving And I like fast cars Go ahead Rob

Starting point is 01:37:22 Me too. Me too. Love fast cars. Go ahead Rob. Is this the one? So this is sped up. Okay, let me back up. I'm not direct on it yet. Coming right, boom, bro. Oh, that's how it happened? Yes, Adam, that's sped up. That's sped up. That looks... It was the ship that did it?

Starting point is 01:37:35 Yeah. Where the hell have you been? Well, when we covered it the other day, we didn't have this video. Oh yeah, no, we had it. You thought it was a freaking cyber attack video. No, no, hold on. Hold on. Listen, okay, thank you Adam for leading me into what I'm gonna say. So last month, and I talked about it... Do you still think it's a freaking cyber attack Vinny. No, no, hold on. Hold on. Okay, thank you Adam for leading me into what I'm gonna say.

Starting point is 01:37:46 So last month, and I talked about it. Do you still think it's a cyber attack? Hold on, because guess what? The guy's, Adam to me, that looks like the movie leaves the world behind. You're looking at me like I'm crazy because I'm asking you if it was a cyber attack. I want to know then why you're not.

Starting point is 01:37:59 So it was a freaking ship. All I'm saying is, guys, and again, this is speculation, nobody knows shit. There's the legal waiver. Yeah, thank you. Thank knows shit. There's the waiver. Yeah. Thank you Thank you Folks no any higher Alina. Well, guess what already my really good lawyer last month can't get videos though in of any I've been watching a lot of interviews of people that were in the Coast Guard and there's so many questions of where's the tugboat? Where's the lead boat? Where's the lead boat? This is such a strange, and Rob you nailed it.

Starting point is 01:38:26 It hit in the main spot, you have to go onto this thing. It looks to me like it's purposely trying to go off. The route of the ship turned around, Adam it came back to the spot, and last month I reported this. Biden issued an EO embedding CISA into the cybersecurity security and the main thing was vessels, harbors, ports, waterfront facilities. I'm just saying after watching Leave the World Behind, shout out Barack and Michelle for trying to scare the shit out of people, it looks like that the

Starting point is 01:38:56 opening of the movie is a cargo ship coming into the beach and landing on the thing and the whole movie is about cyber tech. We're not going to know. We're never going to know. And here's my thing, because I know I'll forget it. The next day, within four hours, five hours, Rob, the president of the United States, Joe Biden comes up and goes, hey, listen, the federal government is going to pay for all of it. And people are like, wait a minute. Don't they have insurance?

Starting point is 01:39:19 He's like, yeah, yeah, because when there's an insurance claim, you have to do all the research and all the investigation. There's no investigation with the federal government paying. With your legal acumen, give us your assessment. Assessment on this? As a lawyer. I'm just saying, first of all, let's give a shout out, Pete Buttigieg. Since he's been office, buddy, am I Buttigieg?

Starting point is 01:39:41 So listen, by the way, since this guy's been in, by the way, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, goes on maternity leave, paternity leave, whatever, as if one of him or his husband pushed out a child. This is what you get when that guy is in charge. That wasn't a child. But Rob, what are you going to say? But just odd the way that it's a very unfortunate circumstance. Six people died. Yeah, God rest their souls. Overnight worker is working a graveyard shift.

Starting point is 01:40:20 But Tom, look how far apart those pillars are from the bridge and it makes direct contact. It's not like the side of it hit it. It hit it dead on and look how much space is between those two pillars. That to me is very freaky. Yeah. I have a question for you. At 1.30 in the morning. At 1.30.

Starting point is 01:40:37 Well, that's not too crazy. Vinny, no disrespect. I'm talking about lawyers. This is why you pay for a good lawyer. I'm not talking. Not a court appointed attorney. Look at how we wore the same, I wore pink on purpose. Go ahead.

Starting point is 01:40:47 Coordinated. Wait, so going back to you, because you definitely are very passionate about many things as I've seen since, but Epstein is one of them, right? Why is Galene still alive? That's a very good question. I'm so glad you asked Council O'Shaughn from the Comedy Cellar. Why hasn't she been off then? Well because then, then that's extremely obvious for them to kill both of them.

Starting point is 01:41:08 Because why isn't she speaking though? Why hasn't she told them where the tapes are? She told everything. It's called double jeopardy. You learned that in law school, Shana. Yes, I did. We all know this. Why do you think they didn't kill her?

Starting point is 01:41:19 I think they can't because then it's too obvious. Then it's like, okay, there's no question. I think she's protected. She's 100%. She's protected, she cut some deal, and okay. There's no question. I think correct. She's 100% She cut some deal and she's protected so that I mean they'll never kill her bother She looks have you seen her somebody did a shot of her through a fence She looks like has the money or something and the money is going to or a kill switch like she's like oh you guys kill me And then guess what everything's gonna be uploaded. It's not stupid. I don't think she's a stupid. I think she she's... That's her right there. She looks like the Red Queen from Game of Thrones when she took off the necklace. That's what you turn into. Rob, remember? Remember? She was like, she

Starting point is 01:41:52 turned into the old chick. That's what she looks like. That's a demon right there. That's Adrena Crohn on the left and that's her without Adrena Crohn on the right. She is very, very sick. Yeah. Rob, how old is she by the way? Who cares? Does she spend the rest of her life in prison? She died in prison. I want to know when the trials gonna be never okay, as if it was Trump the trial would have already happened So how how soon should the trials happen in six months? Yeah, but this chick what a sitting in jail and nobody's touched her and we have no list. I rest my case.

Starting point is 01:42:26 Such a valid question. 62 years old. But what is the legal precedent on someone like this? How long does she just sit in jail with no trial? She should have had trial. That's what I'm saying. How long does this go on? I can't tell you because the law doesn't matter right now.

Starting point is 01:42:39 Ask Manuel Noriega. You know, you would have to ask. Yeah, I can't tell you because it makes no sense. There is absolutely no reason. Actually what they would do in something like this is have an expedited trial But instead they're settling the civil cases and look at who settled the cases wasn't it a banker JP Morgan JP Morgan Settled with the chill with the girls girls right okay explain that to me that says it all Interesting basic question by the way. Yeah, why is it something you can get that quickly to the bottom of but you can't with this? What's more important?

Starting point is 01:43:09 Somebody like Lee you're saying was undervalued on a property or Allegedly a bunch of kids underage girls have been raped and taken advantage of. Why are you taking your time on this? Shouldn't you be more urgent about this matter? That's what I'm saying. It's a very good question. Well, you know why not? because Bill Clinton was there 52 times It's thinking about the people that are involved guys. That's I don't know. How are they still walking around by the way? I don't even be diddy is fleeing. Okay, we know we have Photographic evidence of these people we have witnessed testimony and all these girls have done is bring a civil lawsuit for money Money is not going to help these girls. okay? Money is not, it's a band-aid. It's

Starting point is 01:43:48 a band-aid for a wound that you cannot heal. And I'm talking about real victims, not the BS victims that I've had to deal with. Alina, are you saying that there's a double standard possibly somewhere? I want to wrap up last thing. Just play this clip here that I was telling you guys earlier. This just came in yesterday. Go ahead, Rob. Play the clip. National security and the warnings from the FBI to local, state and federal law enforcement about the possibility of terror attacks right here in the homeland. CBS News got a look at a new joint bulletin that warns groups like Al-Qaeda and ISIS will

Starting point is 01:44:20 likely use the Israel-Hamas war to increase calls for violence in the U.S. this holiday season. This bulletin right here says that the most likely primary targets could include churches, synagogues and members of the Jewish community. Today, the FBI director was telling senators that the U.S. is facing the highest risk of attack in years, that there are blinking lights everywhere and warning terrorists will exploit the southern border. The head of the FBI says the bureau is working

Starting point is 01:44:48 to identify and disrupt these potential attacks with foreign terrorist groups openly calling for strikes against Americans. You let them in. They also say that the number of threats are at a whole other level. Since the October 7th attack on Brazil. Wait, why?

Starting point is 01:45:02 Is it because it's election season maybe? Oh, weird. Here we go. And I'm the crazy one. Now we've got no, I'm not crazy. I know. And I'm thinking people like people, I know, because I'm pretty sure in the chat. They're like, yeah, OK, that's why I bring a gun to church.

Starting point is 01:45:15 That's why. Because of shit like that. Wide open border, wide open border. And now they're like, hey, guys, it's coming. You have to listen. And I'm happy that you played that. We have to listen to shit like this. She's given that predictive program. Oh, it's coming. It's coming. Comic retribution. to the and I'm happy that you played that we have to listen to shit like this She's given that predictive program. It's coming. It's coming comic retribution They have to tell you before it happens this shit's coming for them to say that is watch out

Starting point is 01:45:32 It's one of few things as a message like this breaking news. Yeah warning before Easter Yeah, you know, it's kind of like kovats stay home Thanksgiving Don't go to church don't because if you pray you may actually believe that this country will be back again. That's right. Well, there's going to come a time, I mean, most synagogues at this point have security. My husband's on the board of his synagogue, and I know that they were discussing the amount of money that the synagogue should put into security for Temple. And I am obviously a woman of faith. I

Starting point is 01:46:05 believe in all faiths. I go to Temple with my husband. I go to church, as everybody knows. But to make people afraid of having faith, I think, is the only way you create fear, because I always say the opposite of fear is faith. So I know when I'm afraid or when people try and make me afraid in the job that I have and tell you they're going to do this to you, they're going to... I pray. So you're taking away the one protection, the one cloak that the government can't touch. So now we don't go to church. Right.

Starting point is 01:46:31 And this is what happens next is it starts with the synagogues. Here we go. And then it goes to the churches. And it could potentially happen to the mosques. We saw what happened in Russia. And here comes the day, even though he created the problem. Yep. Communist Marxism, the first thing you have to do is undermine the faith and prevent them

Starting point is 01:46:46 from assembling. Right. Easy formula. Tom, SPF, court, real quick. Judge, what's going on there? Ooh, Judge Kaplan. My judge, Judge Kaplan for Carroll. He was my judge.

Starting point is 01:46:54 Do you want to talk about it? Same judge? No. He is actually going to hand down the sentencing today, and it's kind of funny. You know when you negotiate with a friend, Nick, you're selling a car or something like that You may be a couple dollars apart. Well The defense lawyers want six years for SPF the the recommendation from the federal prosecutors is 50 So the four decades apart just four decades, but it's Kaplan and Kaplan We're gonna wait and see does he go easy on?

Starting point is 01:47:27 We're gonna wait and see does he go easy on SBF who gave five point two million dollars to the Biden's and over fifty million dollars To seven different major PACs that supported only Democrat candidates that SBF What does Kaplan do today when he hands down sentencing does he go light or does he go heavy? Because he was the same judge who? Hit Trump with 1983. I mean he was the guy on my case. Alina, how do you defend someone like this? Who's just so clearly... I wouldn't. I'm not saying you personally, but how does a lawyer defend someone like this? There's defenses. I mean he, I would plead insanity if you take a look at that picture. I mean I would plead insanity and you know what I would be doing if I was his, honestly if I was his lawyer, I would probably be cutting a deal saying look I'm gonna throw xyz

Starting point is 01:48:07 But the problem is the deal that he can give the names that he can give they don't want those names They want the other side. He wasn't involved in our side. He was on the other side So he's no good to them. So now they got to put him in jail and shut him up Oh, yeah, not those names not those if we don't want those names. Nope, Galen. You're good. No trial You just chill smoke cigarettes smoking in jail. You're fine. And by the way, his parents are begging a judge to keep him out of prison, warning their son's social awkwardness could put him in extreme danger. Aww.

Starting point is 01:48:35 A month ago. That's the story. What? Literally the same. Could you imagine saying, my son is so awkward that we should put him in jail? Look at the mom's face. Go up a little bit. Oh my God. No, show the Rachel Maddow Rob show the picture of the mom that is the father each progression That's the father Max Rob show the picture of the mom. No, that is the mom stop it

Starting point is 01:48:54 Barbara Fried oh guys my god, she's the same person that wrote the article with UC Berkeley on We have to stop given the pressure of responsibility to people because it's too much pressure. Did you see the paper she wrote years ago? Rob, can you pull up that responsibility article paper? Personal responsibility. SBF mom on personal responsibility. If you have that you'll see it. Sam Bankman Freed's professor mother penned a 2013 essay shredding philosophy of personal responsibility well mom your son is following your guidance great mother read this to puff island she argued that the philosophy of personal responsibility has ruined the

Starting point is 01:49:38 criminal justice and economic policy as if she knew this day was coming in 11 years that's both economic policy and criminal justice Her son scored a triple word score on all of that. All right gang Having on again Five minutes goes very quick. That's 20 minutes. Yeah, we said 20 minutes We kept it under 20 minutes. Some of us are bad in math and but our guys in the back We did we did what we did. But stay tuned guys I think we have something that's gonna come out later on today or tomorrow with the Boeing lawyer and we'll announce when

Starting point is 01:50:12 that gets done. Aside from that have a wonderful wonderful weekend. Take care everybody. Bye bye. Happy Easter.

PBD Podcast - SBF Sentenced, Diddy Grooming Allegations & Trump Civil Suit w/ Alina Habba | PBD Podcast | Ep. 386

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