PBD Podcast - Sebastian Gorka Destroys The FBI After Supporting The Left | Ep. 272 | Part 1

Episode Date: May 24, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I know this life meant for me. Yeah, why would you plan on Goliath when we got bet David. Value payment, given values, contagious disorder on your preneurs, we can't no value that hate it. I'd be running home,
Starting point is 00:00:20 you look what I've become. I'm the under one. So, every day. Okay, we got another special guest today. Possibly the greatest voice in the game. I mean, you'll hear it here in a second. Sebastian, Gorka is a British-born Hungarian-American media personality not related to George Soros,
Starting point is 00:00:39 military and intelligence analyst. That's the first time anybody's done. That's good. That's good. And former organization. And former government official who served in the administration of US President Donald Trump as a deputy assistant to President from January 2017
Starting point is 00:00:56 till August 25, 2017. He's got a book out, not the one Adam talked about, but the latest one that's out here. The war for America so If you haven't to follow him on social his shirt game is on fire He wears this unique shirt. He's a big fan of the FBI the fascist bureau intimidation And he's got a lot to say about it. So having said that it's great to have you on the podcast today Thanks for having me, but when you're gonna find the guy who does the thumbnail
Starting point is 00:01:26 Let's talk about it. I'm just a serious issue. You're handsome, dude And the thumbnail for you and me today is 40 pounds ago for me and you look ugly. What's a who is this guy? Listen this guy who is this guy just a man here now. Let's arm wrestle and I'm gonna crush it He's now now Is he hate America? Maybe, maybe parts of America. Maybe he should go with somewhere else. I think afterwards we should have a conversation with him. How about we do that?
Starting point is 00:01:52 Let's talk to him. We're trying to create jobs here, not to talk to him. I'm actually curious who did the thumbnail. Can somebody text me and tell me who actually did the thumbnail? It's a crappy thumbnail. Okay. And you guys asked my team for, you know, links, headshots, bio, and I screwed that out. It's over.
Starting point is 00:02:10 It's over. It is over. Okay, listen, whoever did it. That's the t-shirt. Text me, we got to give him recognition. And Rob, if you can put the thumbnail up, because it seems like Sebastian really wants to see the picture again. Just put it up. I got it, I got it.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I'd like to see this. Is there a way to show it or no? Can you go back, go back to yeah, that's what you got to do right there zoom in a little bit That's a handsome looking man right there 42 pounds ago 42 pounds ago that's when I was two six still okay Wow, that's a fashion you're pretty big dude. How tall are you six three? Yeah, I mean Tom looks like a little elf next to you right now Adam what touch it just I'm taller you. Six three. Yeah, I mean, Tom looks like a little elf next to you right now. Adam. What? Touch it.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Just to... All right, sounds good. Well, listen, let's get right into it, guys. We got a lot of things to cover. There's a lot of craziness going on. We got a few topics that I want to speak to you about. When it's KC DeSantis, a lot of stories that's coming up about KC DeSantis. When it's from New York Post.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I'm sure you've read him. Few things on Biden's low rating on economy, on immigration. Some say he has the lowest rating as a president since Adam and Eve. It's a long time, too, to have something like that. Long time Democrat former presidential candidate makes return to politics to run RFK's campaign. And outst, Biden, I wanna know your thoughts on that.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Durham report, Jim Jordan, Urges Congress, to use power of the purse against FBI, obviously the other side's not doing anything about it. We'll talk reparations ban on micron, China escalates microchip clash with US. Maybe we can talk about what's happened with Fox after Tucker. We'll talk about the annual meeting attended by the World's Elite.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Has AI top of the agenda. They don't even hide it anymore. They tell you what meeting it's about. We'll talk about China and Taiwan. I'm really curious, you know, if you do drink Bud Light. So we'll talk about a Wall Street Journal story, how Bud Light blew it, and a few other things. But before we get into this, if you don't mind,
Starting point is 00:04:02 for the audience, that may not know your background, how you got to where you are today. If you don't mind taking a minute, sharing your background, that'd be great. Sure. It's hard to do in a minute, but my father was an anti-communist who created a secret students organization in Hungary after the communists took over. He was betrayed by somebody called Kim Philby, a British double agent. He was arrested, tortured, and given a life sentence at the age of 20. He was two years in solitary, two years down in prison coal mine, and eventually liberated by the revolution he's in 1956.
Starting point is 00:04:36 He escaped to the West literally across a minefield with a 17-year-old daughter of a fellow political prisoner who became his wife and my mother. I was raised in the UK to Hungarian parents. I spoke Hungarian as a first language. And then after the wall fell, I went to work in the new Hungarian government, the first freely elected Hungarian government after communism. I worked in the defense industry, in the defense ministry, helping them get into NATO, because I'd served in the British reserves in a military intelligence unit, so I was helping them get back into the West. Did lived in Hungary for 15 years, met my beautiful American wife in Europe, and then 9-11 hits, and an amazing man, a Marine who is a legend, one of the greatest men I've
Starting point is 00:05:18 ever known, Nick Pratt, Colonel Nick Pratt, a former CIA paramilitary, invited me to teach on a counter counterterrorism program out of garbage pot and keir. And we have a US base in Germany. And I was teaching a counterterrorism course for four years to our allies and our partners. And then woke up one morning with my wife, 2008, we literally looked at each other in bed.
Starting point is 00:05:40 We woke up when he said, time to go, communism screwed this country. It's gonna take another 50 years. I applied for three jobs in the US, VMI, West Point and National Defense University, got a job at NDU, teaching canatorism to 0506s and one stars, and then I wrote a book called Defeating G. Hard, and somebody called
Starting point is 00:06:02 Corley-Cori Lewandowski rang me up in the summer of 15 and said, Hey, Mr. Trump would like to meet with you to get some prep for the GOP debates on national security. I said, okay, so I went to Trump Tower sat down with then Mr. Trump for about 40 minutes, unbelievable discussion from the Civil War to nuclear weapons to ISIS to you name it. then classic trump move there's only three of us in the room he looked at Corey in the corner he said I like this guy let's hire him so I became I signed an NDA like stormy Daniels me and stormy and yeah and then I started writing in policy papers for the debates and then I ended up in the White House as deputy Saved that for seven years seven months felt like seven years and
Starting point is 00:06:50 Then resigned because of certain things we can discuss later and now I have a national radio show with Salem America first in a TV show on Newsmax call the gokary out the check and I'm loving it. I love it. So the 2008 when you woke up, you and your wife, you're like, we gotta get out of here. Yeah, what was the tipping point for you? You know what, for me, for me, it was one concrete thing. So our kids were in 2008, were nine and seven. And they spent every summer in the US
Starting point is 00:07:20 because of my wife's family. So they were socialized as Americans. I remember one day they went to the little Catholic school in the village where we lived about half-narr outside of Budapest. And one day I was watching the playground and I saw this sea of great kids with their heads down and not engaging. And I see two kids standing up right looking people in the eye and I thought wow our kids are different And and I realized there's a there's a saying that is maybe a proctorful that's attributed to the Anoschka dad who was the Creator of Gulasch communism this soft to kind of communism after Stalin died and apparently somebody asked him the Politburo
Starting point is 00:08:03 What why are you doing these reforms? Why are you slightly loosening the grip on the people in Communist Hungary? And Cardiff said, allegedly, I find it much easier to bend the spine slowly over time than to try and break it suddenly. So this form of watered down communism had so seeped into the blood. That in 2008, I could still see it in the kids, in the 10 year olds, in the nine year olds, and I said, I've done 15, I'm in the land of my forefathers. I have done 15 years, I've investigated the prime minister
Starting point is 00:08:37 for being a secret police officer, I've had death threats on my family. I wanna live in a country that I respect, and I've been working with the US military for about four years, and I said, I want to live in a country that I respect and I've been working with the US military for about four years and I said, I love these guys, I want to work for them in America and become an American. So that's why. So last night, the Lakers are playing the Denver Nuggets and they were swept. And after half time, it's about 10, 30 or some like that, I said, I'm going to watch the Soros documentary
Starting point is 00:09:03 because I had nothing better to do. And so it was a... I thought you'd be having cigars. I was wondering which cigabas I could find here. We can take you there right after this. So we're sitting there and I'm watching the documentary. This is the 2019 one. I don't know if you've seen it or not.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Go ahead. You go ahead. If you want to pull it up, this is the one that came out in 2019. Okay. If you've not seen it, I think it's worth watching. Now here's a part part when I watched it.
Starting point is 00:09:27 The documentary starts off saying, everything about him, how people in hungry see him as the devil and all this other stuff. And he is this and he is that. And we don't want him here and we don't want him there. And all these other countries, he can't go into, I think he can't go into the Czech Republic. I think it was Poland.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I think it was Slovenia and one other country that he couldn't go into, I think he can't go into the Czech Republic. I think it was Poland. I think it was Slovenia and one other country that he couldn't go into. And then the documentary ends selling him as this savior and how I became this. It's a very interesting documentary. I think you being from where you are, you ought to watch it. So I'm very interested in this guy because his legacy is not going to go away. His son is going to take over and his son is going to do things and but his son is not his father. His son is not smart. He's not like his dad. The legacy is not and billions of dollars. He's not like his dad.
Starting point is 00:10:16 No. So, so, so, but this is the question I got for you as a man that's, you know, from there and you live there, how do they view George Soros? You know, because in this country in America, the laugh, this is their God, this is their God. This is the guy behind closed doors that's making all the decisions, giving money to an open society organization. All these things, ESG, DECI,
Starting point is 00:10:40 but how does Hungary view him and how do you view him? You know, the average plumber probably doesn't doesn't have any idea The administration I worked for Audubon in the 1990s. We can discuss him separately Oh Audubon has very effectively communicated in the media this that this guy is anti-West He's bad. He's bad for Hungary. So if you've heard of him you you think he's a bad guy. In Hungary. Oh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. I mean, you're kicking out the central universe from the top down.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Is it not down or? No, no, no. I think the massive people, I got you. I got you. Who? But if you live in the big cities, if you follow politics, or if you're not,
Starting point is 00:11:18 they've destroyed, Orban has very effectively destroyed the left in Hungary. There isn't really much of an opposition left. He had a two-thirds majority of the parliament. He managed to change the constitution, bring back Christianity and all kinds of great things. So the majority of people, if they know of him, if they know of him, know that he's a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Because Orban has been very good in his, let's just say, information operations. Got it. But why is he a bad guy? Why? Because he hates what the West is. I mean, he took Karl Popper's concept of open society when he studied under pop-right UK.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And he completely perverted it into, I will decide what is good. I will pick, you know, it's like, you know, noctisism, right, the heresy. We have the secret knowledge. It's a little bit like the bad version of Straussian politics. A very small coterie of individuals
Starting point is 00:12:10 know what is good for everyone. And we will decide, and we will pick. I mean, it's like the 70 prosecutors in America. What is he done here? He doesn't have to win presidential elections. Where's the real power in America? It's local. It's when you can put a million dollars
Starting point is 00:12:25 into Alvin Bragg's race in New York, a man who campaigned on, I'm going to put Donald Trump in prison. That's power. When you put dozens and dozens of your prosecutors who are radicals who hate America, into power to put criminals back on the streets to say, we need equity, not equality.
Starting point is 00:12:44 That moment from, what need equity, not equality. That moment from, what was it, the Bill Maher interview with Bernie Sanders? Bernie, what, I don't know the difference. What's the difference? Sort of tell me. I mean, yes, what? You're Bernie, you don't know the difference, Bernie.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Well, guess what? George Soros knows the difference, and he is building equity by destroying people in America. Why, though? Why? Why does he want to do that? So what I wanted to get into this guys to see what, wait, have you seen the interview that they deep-sixed
Starting point is 00:13:12 of him on CBS or ABC when they asked him about what you did during the war? I think that's a lot of that is why. I mean, you got to understand, this is a Jewish kid. You find this. I mean, if you find it in 10 minutes, I'm gonna be impressed, impressed. He's asked on camera about what he did during World War II in Hungary as a 15-year-old and how he worked with the
Starting point is 00:13:33 Nazis to collect the wealth of the Jews, of his fellow Jews, to collect the wealth before they were sent to the labor camps and the death camps. And the interviewer says, do you feel any remorse for this? And he actually laughs. The guy laughs, I saw that. Six million people killed, and you're part of the initial phase of rounding them up by collecting their wealth before they get put on the cattle carts, and you laugh, dude, if you're trying to deal with that,
Starting point is 00:14:04 if your conscience is eating you up for the last 60 years, that you help the Nazis and you're a Jew, there's all kinds of things you can do. This is the one you're talking about. It looks like it. Yeah. Right. You got to leave it from me nicely done.
Starting point is 00:14:20 My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were is adopted by God. When out in fact and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews. That's right. Yes. That sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult? Not at all, not at all. Look at this face. Maybe as a child, you don't see the connection,
Starting point is 00:14:58 but it was, it created no problem at all. No feeling of guilt. No. You're better than the guy Joe Rogan uses. You're quick. You're quick. So, so that, could you imagine doing that as what you're a Syrian Christian? A Syrian Christian. You imagine your helping is 14 year old, persecute the Syrian Christians. Yeah, so I'm really trying to figure out his motive though.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Like what is the motive as a globalist I get it so okay I can't get inside his head I do not want to go to that you know dantian six circle of hell but what's the motive for the left today we were discussing this before we went live forget party politics forget you know R&D I realize this a long time ago. This nation is separated by one question. Do you love America or is America the problem? That's simple. Is America bad or is it great? He and everybody else who works with him at the Open Society Foundation or works for Alvin Bragg believes America is the problem. And also they have white guilt, even if you're not Jewish, you have white guilt.
Starting point is 00:16:08 How does BLM start getting five different mansions for its founder, if not white guilt? The problem America is racism. It is racism, but who are the racists? The white liberals, those are the people who are the problem in America, because they hate themselves and they hate this country. If you think America is the problem, it explains everything. Open borders, right? It explains, you know, why we're doing deals with Iran.
Starting point is 00:16:32 It explains everything. It is hatred of America that is the key question. Do you love it or you de-aid it? What's the antenna of George Soros? We don't have one. You discussed this yesterday. I want to know from you because you're in this world. Yeah, well, we had Sheldon Adelson, who passed last year, George Soros. We don't have one. You discussed this yesterday. I want to know from you because you're in this world. Yeah. Well, we had Sheldon Adelson who passed last year.
Starting point is 00:16:50 This is the big problem on the right. Is that we have people with money who spend it on garbage. I mean, seriously, another full page ad in the Washington Times. That's not going to move the needle anywhere. We have not been playing the culture war. We haven't found... Look at what is being done move the needle anywhere. We have not been playing the culture war. We haven't fun. Look at what is being done in the mainstream media. The only guy who could be is Elon, but he's not a conservative.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I was on an hour and a half Twitter spaces with him, and I got to ask him a question, and I listened to him. This is the first big Twitter space he did. We had like 90,000 people on it. And he was on his jet. I remember that. The whole sound out about that. Oh, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And you know, if you haven't listened to it, guys, listen to the Twitter space by, hosted by Mario Nafal, where we talk about the Twitter drops. And where I tell him, where's the smoking gun Elon? I, this isn't, you know, oh, the, the, the Democrats in DC worked with the Democrats in Palo Alto. This is news.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And I said, where's the smoking gun? Anyway, the thing about Elon Musk is, if you listen to that 90 minutes, he is like a kid who found a new toy. It's like Christmas day and you open the box and I've got a new tie. What's the tie? The toyys Politics. I guarantee this guy hasn't had a political thought for the last 40 years. And then, up comes censorship, up comes open border, up comes everything else and he goes,
Starting point is 00:18:15 huh, what's his Hunter Biden laptop thing? Why can't I retweet the New York Post's story about it before the election? He's found politics and he's playing with it. He doesn't know what he is. He doesn't know whether he's a libertarian or a conservative. He just knows people are attacking America that has given him fortune beyond belief and are attacking the First Amendment and he doesn't like it. He could be, he could be, the George Soros for the good guys.
Starting point is 00:18:44 But he's also got some ties to China that are problematic, business ties, whatever. But you know, my metric when people say to me, you know, he's, he's just another one of the elitists. He's pissed off all the right people in the last year. The enemies he has made are all the right enemies from the Washington Post, to CNN, to the Democrats, to AOC. If you're pissing off those people who hate America, you're probably a good guy. Yeah, you know, there's a, it's funny,
Starting point is 00:19:14 you're saying that 40 years, he's not, but you know, he just kind of got a hold of this. But knowing his style of a student and curious he is, I can only imagine how obsessed and immersed he is with wanting to know everything, learn everything about the space. If that's the case, if you're saying that's the case, and if he becomes a true believer, that's a pretty heavy weight of a true.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Do you have any thoughts on the guy on the person he just hired as a real? Yes, do you have any thoughts on it? I'm curious. So I saw all this stuff about her being, you know, she's a leftist, well, economic forum, executive director., you know, she did a left-ass while economic forum executive director. Look at the interview she did with him, it's all work. I watched the interview, it wasn't, it wasn't bad. And you know, it's fascinating. The finance, my engineer, my radio show.
Starting point is 00:19:55 He sent me a clip of the Financial Times where it's two unnamed sources, senior executives in advertising said, yeah, if I had to class her, I'd say Linda's probably a Reagan Republican. And then I go to fight, is this woman on Twitter? And I go on Twitter, she's following me, Patrick. Ha, ha, ha. Now, if you're watching your movies, you're so cold as hell. You know, you have to be,
Starting point is 00:20:18 I mean, having me on your show, you got balls, so God bless you for having me on your show, right? Because as far as, you know, the left is concerned, I am, you know, the devil incarnate, you know, trumps. What do the telegraph call me, trumps pit bull, right, when I was in the White House? If she's fun, I don't have a lot of big ad executives following me on Twitter. I mean, I've got a million plus followers, but big, big ad executives, I think she's probably the only one.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Now, that's interesting. And my producer who has the best political, the Mara bone, he can sniff out a fake person instantly. He said, yeah, you know why he hired her? Because the biggest problem at Twitter now, and you've seen it on your feed, are the crap ads. I mean, he's been hammered since he took her over. They have been targeting him.
Starting point is 00:21:09 The left has to get rid of his advertisers. He needs to make that platform profitable. He wants to turn it into the Amazon Plus, Facebook Plus, YouTube of the future. Super app. The app. He says, I want this app, the app. You only need one app to shop and watch your videos and do so, this is the app.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Now, you can't do that without money, without it being profitable. He's just hired a professional and he can fire her whenever he wants. This is a woman who's there to bring in ad revenue. And I'm not worried about this woman, not at all. Yeah, I mean, I've been following to see what she's saying, how she communicates, what she's doing.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I de-efter, she hasn't de-m-me-backed. So I'm waiting for this one. I'm sure she's got 50,000 de-mails. No one knows what she's got. Hey, what's she following me? Come on. Does that kind of pump it up? If it's followed or followed,
Starting point is 00:21:55 so it kind of shows it, yeah. I'm sure she'll eventually get back to it. Does it show how long she's been following you? I don't know, I don't know about that. That's a good question. Maybe in the back, back. Maybe there was something you said at a particular moment that inspired her to fall in the work.
Starting point is 00:22:07 If you're in the advertising industry, you know, you don't follow MAGA people. That's, you know, because somebody can see that. Maybe that's why he hired her because she has a- He's smart. The ability to have certain ideology, but also play ball with certain people on the left and money talks, baby.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Let's talk about MAGA people. Let's talk about your experience working with the president Trump and how that was and how you think he's doing right now with all the polls, what's out there, what's your experience been with him? That's what everybody wants to know. It doesn't matter where I am in the country,
Starting point is 00:22:37 what the topic is they've asked me to speak on sooner or later in the Q&A, the question is, what's he really like? And the fact is, if you've been a, you know, a life for the last 40 years, if you've watched television, if you've seen, you know, President Trump, the nice thing about him, and I live in DC, and it's full of snakes and Janus faced, you know, lies,
Starting point is 00:22:55 what you see is what you get. When it's just a two of you in the Oval Office, it's exactly the same as if he's in front of 60,000 people in the stadium, exactly the same. And let me tell you a story about that first meeting in Trump Tower in the summer of 15. You got to understand I grew up in the UK. So step up a lip, debating club, all very proper blah, blah, blah. And I walk into this kid from Queens office.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And the Donald's a little bit different. He's not exactly from, you know private school in West London like I was. So I got a little bit of getting used to but within three minutes of talking to this guy, I realize one thing. He hates political correctness and he loves America and I said, you want me to work for you? Fine, you hate political correctness. I said, you want me to work for you? Fine, you hate political correctness. Number one, number two, you love America. You think about, I was there when he announced in Mar-a-Lago for the second time.
Starting point is 00:23:52 And of course, I was there to cover it for my show and to support him, but I'm listening to it and I'm standing there and it blew my mind because what has he been put through for the last six years? Have you home rated by armed FBI agents? Have your wife attacked? Have your son attacked?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Being called a anti-semitic white supremacist when your daughter converted to Judaism and your grandkids are Jewish and you're prepared to step into the arena again. I salute that, I salute that. So a great American, bottom line. Whether you like his tweets or not, when people say the tweets, seriously, six million illegal immigrants, and you're gonna talk to me about tweets,
Starting point is 00:24:37 I mean, grow up. Will he just wait before people? Well, this is the, I don't know the intent. Will he tweet? That's the big question. The question is, that's probably the most important one. Yeah, I don't know because of truth social I don't know what deal he's got with the investors at truth social whether he can't we'll see he's got he's got a year and a half
Starting point is 00:24:52 Does he follow you in Instagram? He's using face using everything but what's Twitter? Right, so he's following on Twitter Sebastian does he he only follows like 16 17 people I figured you'd be in that list. I don't know. Well, I haven't checked. OK, so let's go through the rumor port. Yeah, let's talk about that. So a few things. Obviously, there's a lot to it. I'll read the store now.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Just pretty much P-WAP and you can go from there. Sure. With your background. So let me go here. So Jim Jordan urges Congress to use power the purse against FBI. This is a Washington Washington examiner's story. To hold the FBI accountable, following the release of the Durham
Starting point is 00:25:31 report, Jordan urges argues that appropriations can be leveraged to pressure the FBI into reform, stating we got to limit how they spend the money, maybe even limit them. Jordan has been vocal about FBI misconduct, including alleged targeting hard getting of anti-borschen groups and conservative activists. He calls for further investigations and discussions with individuals mentioned in the Durham report stating, are there people that were highlighted in the Durham investigation and the Durham report that we need to talk to? Under Judiciary Committee, we're going to give that a good hard look.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Some Republicans have even suggested defending or abolishing the FBI yesterday. I think a few FBI whistleblowers came out. The mainstream media didn't give it a second of airtime at all. They did not talk about it. So tell us what's going on. Why is mainstream media not talking about it? Would everything that's being shared isn't this enough credibility for them to want to look at this? And if not, why are they not?'t this enough credibility for them to want to look at this and if not wired in
Starting point is 00:26:26 That because the FBI works for them the FBI works to the left works for the Democrats and works for the media Which is part of the left it's very simple so when the the don't report is 307 pages. It's long But most Americans are never going to read it So I tweeted this out at the weekend and I you know I'm You know I've got a lot of followers, but I very rarely get 366,000 views on a tweet in a couple of days. And here it is. It's just the Cliff Notes. Haven't read the darn report. Okay, here are the Cliff Notes. The FBI and CIA knew Hillary was about to frame candidate Trump. Repeat. The FBI and the CIA knew Hillary was about to frame Trump. Number two,
Starting point is 00:27:08 Komi, head of CIA, said FBI and Brennan, head of CIA, briefed Obama and Biden on her plot on the summer of 2016. Before the election, Biden as vice president and Obama were briefed by the CIA and the FBI that Hillary's going to do this mid job. She's going to lie about Russian collusion. We've got the deets. Biggest conclusion. There was never any evidence of Russian collusion. None. None.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Zero. Zip. You know, Mueller investigation. Impeachment one, impeachment two. No evidence of Russian collusion. Nevertheless, the US government illegally spied on the Trump campaign and us in the Trump White House, Pfizer-Warrants, Flynn, Carter Page, Manafort, Papadopoulos, On and On and On. And lastly, my conclusion, this isn't the cliff notes.
Starting point is 00:28:07 The deep state is real, but Durham didn't have the balls to arrest any of its leaders or their masters. Hillary, Obama, or Biden. 40 years ago, the FBI was the enemy of the left, right? The greatest patriotism is dissent. We hate the man, we hate the G-man today. And this is tough for me to even say because before I joined the White House, my wife and I had the only external contract to provide training on ISIS and al Qaeda to the FBI. I
Starting point is 00:28:38 was doing 20,000 miles a month going from field office to RA to the headquarters, to Quantico, briefing the FBI, training the agents. I trained thousands of agents and SOS support staff and intelligence analysts. If the FBI knocked on my door tonight, I'd say, screw you, talk to my attorneys. If you've lost me, I mean, if you've lost Dan Bongino, if you've lost me, if you've lost, you know, hardcore MAGA, it is irredeemable. There's no way to salvage this entity.
Starting point is 00:29:10 This entity must be dismantled because we have a political police force in America and it's called the FBI. And it's not just about President Trump or, you know, Paul Manafort or Steve Bannon, it's about, you know, Catholic preachers in Philly having their home rated by armed FBI agents. It's about January 6, who didn't even enter the building and get charged with a felony. That's political police, I'm sorry. But how did that happen though?
Starting point is 00:29:41 If at one point you were the anti-left, when did they become the anti-right? So I just did an interview with a guy who had 21 years in Michael Van Mieter, a FBI guy, Supervisory Special Agent. It's on my America first, Rumblefeed, if you want to watch it. And he said, this happened right after Louis Friede. When Louis Friede came in, you started to see lawyers being brought into the leading positions on the seventh floor in the Hoover Building, not agents. And then, after 9-11, Mueller was told, remember, this is a pivotal moment in FBI history. Bush, after 9-11, told Mueller that then FBI director, your job is to prevent the next 9-11. Hang on a second, where cops.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Cops don't prevent crime. Cops arrest and investigate crimes. Now the FBI is meant to prevent them, which means it becomes an intelligence service. Not a law enforcement agency. If you don't believe me, the URL, the address for FBI employees ends with .IC. It's FBI.gov.IC. Why? Intelligence community. They are now a spy agency, but they're spying on who? Americans. That's the problem. Mueller starts with free to a certain extent. Mueller and then Komi turned it into an intelligence agency with a political prerogative. Now, think about the fact. We just had this drop yesterday.
Starting point is 00:31:16 The FISA court issued, well, it took a year to get it, a report, in which there were 270,000 FISA warrants that were illegal, not FISA warrants, FISA surveillance requests, over a million Americans, a quarter of a million Americans. What are we talking about? White supremacy is the biggest threat to America. This is what the president said. At a college a week ago, this is insanity. This is, I used to give lectures on the FBI to new agents and military officers and say, you know what's really
Starting point is 00:31:55 weird about America. America's the only developed nation in the world that doesn't have an internal security service. There's no MI6. There's no Bundeswehrfaschen Schutz. And like there is in Germany, in America, we don't have political security because of the nature of the country and how we were born.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I don't give a fuck at you anymore because we have a political police force and it's the FBI and it cannot be redeemed. When you've got Dan Bongino, former secret service guy, say it's got to be taken down. When you've got people like Steve Gray, 23 years in the FBI, I say on my show, no, Irredeem, Bulkard Seraphin, whistleblower,
Starting point is 00:32:34 Irredeemable, give it three main missions to other agencies. It doesn't matter who you change at the top, who you put into the seventh floor of the Hoover Building, this agency is Irredeemable. I look, you've served, you're a specialist, right? I know that you or I, if you're in the Philly Field Office, and the assistant's supervisor special agent says, hey, we've got this warrant. There's this guy Mark Hauke, and he pushed this abortion protester at a planned parenthood
Starting point is 00:33:04 clinic who was screaming at his 12-year-old son and they charged him with a misdemeanor, but the local court dismissed it. They said, you're protecting your kid. This guy's a loony. We're not going to charge you. But we're going to go in there anyway. Put on your ceramic-plated vest. Get your M4.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Load it. We're going to raid his home. What would you do, Patrick? I know what I'd do. I'd say, here's my patch. Here's my creds. I'm not your stinking Gestapo. I resign. How many are doing that? Well, 20 of them did it for Mark Hauks House. So here's why I don't buy the Hannity thing. Oh, it's just the bad apples on the top floor. Bullshit. It's not the bad apples. If you don't have, you've got tens of thousands of agents and intelligence analysts
Starting point is 00:33:45 and support staff. If you're not striking, if you're not outside the building, picketing saying, we are not your Gestapo. Sorry, you're one of the bad guys. We've got less than 20 whistleblowers out of tens of thousands of people at the FBI headquarters and across the nation. Less than 20 whistleblowers. And you know, it's really freaky,
Starting point is 00:34:06 nobody from DOJ. The people who give the orders, not one whistleblower. Why do you think? Because it's that, when I was in the White House, I realized very early on, all of the government is corrupt. When Obama sicked the IRS on,
Starting point is 00:34:23 on Tea Party Patriots, it was all corrupt. The worst, the DOJ. went when obama sick the i the iris on on you know tea party patriots uh... it was all corrupt the worst the d o j the d o j is literally a wing of the democrat party it's just a political tool cancel question regarding the f b i and uh... i hear what you're saying i mean you make some very valid points specially with the the news of the durem report i want to just go back in time a little bit because he's saying, how did this happen?
Starting point is 00:34:47 So it's purely speculation, opinion. We all remember in 2016, I think eight days before the election, it was James Comey who went up on stage. And potentially, as they say, cost Hillary the election. He basically said, at this time, Hillary's emails, Hillary's emails, Hillary was sloppy as hell. He basically said, at this time, Hillary's emails, Hillary's emails, Hillary was sloppy
Starting point is 00:35:05 as hell. He didn't charge her with anything, but basically said it was careless to an extent. And then obviously Trump won the election. How much do you think that, and we also remember when Komi was still the FBI director, he was in that room, basically hiding behind the drapes. He's 6'8", is trying to blend in. Do you remember that? It was like, all right, we see you Jim, you're six eight buddy.
Starting point is 00:35:28 But how much do you think it's almost like a me of Kulpa? Basically on the FBI's behalf, basically saying, yes, we are the ones essentially responsible for Trump, whether you agree with that or not, that they're basically reversing course and saying, all right, we caused Hillary the election. So let's see what it's a politicization of the FBI, for sure, or the leopoldization. But going back in time to pass question, how did this all happen?
Starting point is 00:35:53 This is just something that comes to mind for me. Look, that press conference is infamous. I mean, you've got to watch it again. It's 13 minutes long. And for 12 and a half minutes, Komi lists every crime she committed. 18 TSSCI secret emails, top 10 tell, put on to a private server. That's a list.
Starting point is 00:36:12 That means somebody goes into a skiff, goes into a security facility with a thumb drive, which is illegal, if you're a US employee, or with a camera, which is illegal, to photographs, classified emails, takes them out, downloads them, and then sends them on an unsecured server to Hillary's email system, which is in her bathroom, right? That's a, yeah, if I did that once, if you did that once when you're a specialist, you're in the break and you ain't coming out, you're going in there for 20 years, okay? Because the SBIR now, SBIR now is actually clear, intent is irrelevant. It's one of the few parts of the US code where intent is whether you're a spy or whether you're a moron, like old age aims aims and you leave your briefcase of classified stuff on the subway
Starting point is 00:36:48 and metro on the metro by accident doesn't matter. It's classified information. You go away. She did it 18 times in just that press conference. And the last 90 seconds, who said, which isn't, which is not allowed to do is directly the FBI. It's not the freaking AG says, but no reasonable prosecutor or judge would bring charges against this woman. I had a buddy working in the Chelsea JTTF,
Starting point is 00:37:09 the Joint Tourism Task Force in New York. He said, there were people in the, this is an FBI unit that is interagency. When they heard Comey say that, they got up, there was a Tuesday, I think a Tuesday, they got up from their desks, put on their jackets, left the building and didn't come back to Monday. They were so disgusted by what he did,
Starting point is 00:37:33 which wasn't helping Trump. He exonerated her. He exonerated her and he has no right to do this. No reasonable person would bring charges. Excuse me, you're not even allowed to say that. You're the FBI director. You're not a prosecutor. You're not a judge.
Starting point is 00:37:49 And you exonerate. Why? Because she's a friend of yours. Because you want to stain that position. He was trying to save, he wasn't destroying her. Now, it didn't work out too well, but his motivation was to save her ass. Why do you think Trump kept him on as FBI director?
Starting point is 00:38:05 Sssss. It's ironic for a guy who's 14 season long TV show whose motto was, You're fired! Right, exactly. Between you and me and your viewers, he hates firing people. That's why he does it on Twitter so much.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Because he really, the person, it just, you're really dumb. You're saying the guy who was most known for some people, they're fired, That's why does it on Twitter so much because he really the person it just really You're saying the guy who was most known for people their fire right does not enjoy fire people He doesn't he does a bash. I don't know if I'm buying now. You don't have to talk to people who worked in the White House Like me and ask him he doesn't like doing that. I don't know why didn't do it earlier that guy should have been well He should have used his Name sake in his catchphrase day one with comi Don't you think he should have yeah and with many other people look you have to understand one thing about president Trump
Starting point is 00:38:49 And I love as an immigrant having to remind my fellow Americans were born here You know what you did in 2016? Americans did something really funky in 2016 Because from George Washington to Obama There's a connection every single president in America, every single president is a member of the political elite. Every single one, former senators, congressmen, governors, or retired generals,
Starting point is 00:39:17 every single one. Along comes a real estate mogul from New York with a reality TV show, who's never run. For any, I mean, even Reagan couldn't win first time. This guy runs the first time, and he wins 64 million Americans. This is my buddy, my body, Bongina says, you know, double barrel middle finger, the political elite, elect somebody who's never served as county dog catcher, let alone the president. How does he know how DC works?
Starting point is 00:39:50 He's not a politician. How does he know what Comey's really like? If Comey, you know, Brown knows his him. This is why Round Two is going to be different. If we do our part and we get him reelected, dude. It's going to be very different. I said this in an interview with PBS and they stole it and they didn't run the interview but they used my line as the title for the documentary with Bannon and everybody else. People need to understand when we walked into that building. I walked into that building January 21st, the day after the inauguration. It was
Starting point is 00:40:24 a Saturday but I was on the clock. I'm a deputy. I'm going into work. When we walked into that building, January 21st, the day after the inauguration. It was a Saturday, but I was on the clock. I'm a deputy. I'm going into work. When we were walked into that building, they were less than 20, less than 20 people in senior positions like me, who were MAGA, America first, and understood by 64 million Americans said, yeah, we don't want a politician. We had to fill 4,000 positions, presidential positions, 4,000, and run a government of more than 2 million people. Now, God bless Steve Bannon, but he actually said in an interview for Rolling Stone or Vogue or some stupid publication, he had to use this word. Two weeks into the administration, we didn't have enough bodies. So, Rheitz and I made a quote, drug deal with the RNC to fill the positions. I think that explains what
Starting point is 00:41:16 happened for the next four years. When you bring in Bushes, when you bring in Rheitz, when you just have people with a pulse, but who hate them. I was a deputy assistant to the president. Now, I didn't know what that meant, okay, because I'd worked in the military and the DOD. It outranks the four-star general. I didn't realize that until I rolled up to DIA for a lecture on China, and they treated me like, you know, the second coming.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I, you know, the two stars are coming out to greet me and take me to the VIP blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You're a deputy. There's only 42 of us in government, 42 deputy assistants to the president. Six months into my term, I realized there's another dapp in the building, another deputy assistant, my rank,
Starting point is 00:41:58 who detests the president, who utterly hates Trump and everything he stands for, which is weird because being a deputy assistant to the president, you're not Shanghai, you're not given the Queen's shilling with a gun put to your head. You will be an outranking four star civilian. No, you actually wanted to do it, but you were in what to get a check mark on your resume. You're going to come into a building and work for a guy who you can't stand That's not gonna happen again
Starting point is 00:42:29 So how do you think this time will be different knowing what you know now if you had people insulated in the administration right that basically Hated Trump which is insane to me like yeah, we have people like general Kelly I mean think about general Kelly was a chief of staff. Yeah, that is one of the most powerful people in the world And I love them Marine Corps is my favorite service I spent two and a half years teaching a quanica People like General Kelly. I mean, think about it. General Kelly was a chief of staff. That is one of the most powerful people in the world. And I love them. Marine Corps is my favorite service. I spent two and a half years teaching a Kwanaka. I love the Marines.
Starting point is 00:42:50 And it pains me to say he was a subversive. He should be in prison right now. I mean, to think of this, Corey Lewandowski, good buds with the president. Never worked in the administration, but he'd come in all the time to talk to the president. And he'd never tell Kelly, Kelly would get irate, he'd get pissed. And I can tell you this,
Starting point is 00:43:06 because Corey said this in a Fox interview. One day, he was coming out of the oval. Kelly saw Corey, grabbed Corey, and flung him against the wall so hard he ripped the button off his jacket. General Kelly did that to Corey Lundale. I said, you don't f-hing come in my building without my permission. He was chief of staff at the time.
Starting point is 00:43:26 My building? Nobody freaking elected you to nothing. Oh yeah, you're a big, you know, marine retire. Nobody elected. My building, that cannot happen again. What are we gonna do about it? There's only two jobs I'd be prepared to do in the next administration, one of these personnel.
Starting point is 00:43:54 There's another person who's already been given the nod, and he's a friend of mine, and if he gets it, we've had a discussion, I'll help you in whatever way you need. Reagan said it best. Policy is personnel, personnel is policy. It doesn't matter what your issue is. I'm a big second amendment guy, but whether it's a sanctity of life, whether it's the border, whether it's economy, it doesn't matter what your issue is. If you don't get personnel right, you're not gonna get anything done. Rule number one, if we win, if we do our part,
Starting point is 00:44:18 we have to have a filter system that only allows people who love America into the building end of story. So it's sort of about Trump, it's sort of about Republicans, people who love America. Who would those names be? Meaning, you know, the last, because the criticism is, some of the older guys don't want to come back.
Starting point is 00:44:34 You know, this person's not coming back. The daughter's not coming back. The cushions, nobody wants a job back. Everybody's kind of hesitating, who would be departed a new team? Yeah. So this is, I'm working on an article that's exactly those for my sub stack, the names of the cabinet and who should come in.
Starting point is 00:44:52 This is a challenge. My friend has the morning show in DC, Chris Plan, a great radio host. And he said one of the greatest successes of the left in the last 20 years is to guarantee that good men and women will never work in a Republican conservative administration. And he's right. Why would you? Why would you be a justice cabinet, even? Why would you risk having loonies come to your house with zip ties and a gun to kill you
Starting point is 00:45:19 and your children? I thought I was used to it, but then when I came into the administration, they came after my wife, they came after my son. There was one journalist wrote 52 hit pieces on me in two months, one of which was about my 18-year-old son and used the word traitor in the headline about my high school age son. Why would you do that? So it's gonna be a challenge. What I said to Mike Flynn at the beginning, national security advice, I said, because we inherited a national security council
Starting point is 00:45:53 that's 420 people. It was insane. Obama created this massive, massive NSC. And I said, Mike, get rid of the mall, send them back to their agencies, because most of them come from state or CIA or DOD. And put some good people at the top of each one as senior directors, and then let's fill it
Starting point is 00:46:09 with people from the campaign. Let's bring in people who work their ass off to get President Trump elected, who don't know the difference between Suni and Shia, but give me six months, and I will train them. I will be there. They will be there till 10 o'clock at night. They will learn the rudiments of national security, and at least they'll be loyal to the will of 64 million Americans.
Starting point is 00:46:29 And you know, a week later, Mike was fired. So you want to bring in greenies or do you want to bring in some big news? Well, I think we've got a year and a half, no, we've got a year and a half to find cadre and to convince people. We've got to have the top line locked in. We've got to have the cabinet members. We've got to have the senior directors. We've got to have the Dazds, the assistant secretaries,
Starting point is 00:46:53 or locked in, but it can't be... I don't want to get into too much into it. Tell me if I'm talking too much. All the big appointments is to go through our office, through Bannon's office. So we'd get these spreadsheets every week of people who want to come into the administration. There was one spreadsheet we received, this is unclassified, of people who are applying to the top jobs
Starting point is 00:47:11 in the DOD, like the Assistant Secretary of Defense, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense. And I looked at the spreadsheet before I gave it to Bannon and I said, where are we getting these names? Because there's a column on the right hand side referred by Where are we getting these names? Because there's a column on the right hand side referred by Four of the people on this spreadsheet had been referred by Michelle Floor-Noy Michelle Floor-Noy was Obama's, you know Top pentagon official people people actually coming into the Trump administration are putting Michelle Floor-Noy I mean just put you know
Starting point is 00:47:44 are putting Michelle Floor Noy, I mean, just put, you know, Podesta, just put Axelrod, why don't you? That can't happen again, that can't happen again. Yeah, it's gonna be, you know, that part is gonna be interesting to watch who's part of the cabinet, who's part of the team because some people, the criticism of first term was the fact that the training of the swamp didn't happen. And I wonder, is it a part of it where, you know, you know how in fights or you know, game,
Starting point is 00:48:14 you lose the game and you know, do you point and hug each other or even in UFC, hey man, this was a great fight, you know, you're really great and you're really brought it. And I gotta give some respect to him, you know, this fight wouldn't be this way and then you become friends. Is it almost there's a side of you when you go into this space? That is filled with you know back stabbing dirty and you're like You know what I think they're gonna be nobles. So let me have a meeting with Romney the next day
Starting point is 00:48:39 You know, let me bring these other guys in and then you're like Let's make this work. maybe I can change them, maybe if they really see how good I am, we can really unify this group. And then you make the mistake of keeping the comies, keeping everybody, no, no, no, no, no. They're not who you think they are. This is not capitalism, this is not business,
Starting point is 00:48:58 this is not corporate. These guys are darker and dirtier than you think. Stay strong and bring true believers in. Is that the evolution that he had to go through with his first term? Yeah. And also he's in a territory that he's never been in before. Right?
Starting point is 00:49:14 I'm a geopolitics guy. I'm a broadcaster. Don't ask me to play a concert piano. You will have a very bad concert. Or who won the Celtics he gave me? Not get so whatever it was. No clue. Is that a cricket match? You would have a very bad concert or who won the Celtics he gave nuggets or whatever it was right no clue So he's in a completely new environment, but but to your point two things Let's talk about the left and let's talk about our side on our side the establishment really thinks he's a joke
Starting point is 00:49:38 He's an anomaly that the American people just chose the wrong person by accident. They really, I mean, Chris Christie's going to announce. Chris Japper, the heart's gone announced. Does he really think that anybody in America is going to vote for him? I mean, Aissa Hutchinson? Aissa Hutchinson? You literally be a diplodocus from prehistoric times, and you're running for the presidency. The establishment thinks that Donald Trump is a blip.
Starting point is 00:50:06 It's an accident. We're gonna go back to normal and put the other table with the Democrats and the sweet deals with China and we'll be fine. He's just, he's just, wait, it's just an accident. It's perverse. Get back to normal. So you can't deal with those guys
Starting point is 00:50:18 because they think you're a freak. And the other side, let me give you an example. I was thrown in day three of the administration, right, because we dropped the travel ban, and it was not well communicated. And I could see that it wasn't being well communicated. So I texted ban on a Friday night. I said, Steve, you know, we gotta explain this better.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Like this isn't Antimo's limb. This is based upon a threat assessment that Obama left us of the seven nations that cannot tell us who the people are, who are coming across the border. This is their threat assessment. We're just initiating it. And, and, and Bannon, typical Bannon,
Starting point is 00:50:56 he doesn't sleep three a.m. He texts me back, he says, tell Spicer now to use you. Now, I didn't go into the administration to do media. I went there to do behind the scenes national security. So I go, Spicer, a badger says you's me. So I am literally dropped into the pit of hell. The Saturday morning, Sunday, Friday, doing all the CNN.
Starting point is 00:51:14 I mean, this is the fun stuff that people keep talking to me about here when I destroyed Cuomo, when I was on with MSNBC. And I was an effective communicator. After I was effectively communicating all this stuff with the president, Senator Durban wrote a letter to the Secretary of Homeland Security to investigate my naturalization and to have me kick out of the country. Dick Durban from Illinois? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:42 This isn't a political difference. This is when the other side things, I can destroy you. You must have lied on your immigration papers. You must be deported because you're an effective communicator for the president. Right? This isn't politics. This isn't, you know, tip o' neill having a bear with Ron Reagan, you know, Friday night. The left wants to destroy us. Every week they got together. Every week, once upon a time, there was a time in the subway where Tip and Gip would get
Starting point is 00:52:14 together and have lunch and rose garden, and there was a certain nobility of it and where they were. Let me ask you a question. But let me just add to that. Think about what Brennan has said Brennan still has his security clear and so is a former c i director unnashed on cable television he said the incumbent president
Starting point is 00:52:35 is a trader who works for russia excuse me i mean politics has been dirty for a long time but to say the guy in the white house actually works for the crowned that's not politics I mean, politics has been dirty for a long time. But to say the guy in the White House actually works for the Kremlin, that's not politics.
Starting point is 00:52:53 That's evil.

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