PBD Podcast - Sebastian Gorka On Why Trump Will End The Ukraine/Russia War Within 24 Hours | Ep. 272 | Part 2

Episode Date: May 24, 2023

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Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so close I can take sweetest dirty I know this life meant for me Yeah, why would you plan on galiah when we got bett David? Value payment, giving values, contagious, this world I want yourpreneurs, we can't no value that haters Howdy run homie, look what I've become I'm the entrepreneur

Let's stay on this. You talk about Ron. Okay, who's in his ear? Okay, last weekend, we were at, not last weekend, whatever last Thursday or something. We spent a few hours with him at the governor's mansion. Just ourselves, 10, 15 other people were invited to kind of watch how he is and what he says

and the approach and all this other stuff. And I've been very critical of the governor. I think he's done a phenomenal job for the state, but I think his marketing team absolutely sucks, and they need to be fired and found a new person. And some people think that could be relative, but I think the marketing team needs help. So now, that's a different story.

Yeah. One, I'll start off by just asking you an open-ended question about him as a candidate on who's in his ear. Is he making the right job running today? Should he not be running? Should he be running? And what's the best case, sort of worst case scenario here at the end of this election, 2024, for specifically Governor Rondescentis?

So I suddenly sent me a load of bumper stickers that are in my green room at Vice Studio that say 2024 Trump DeSantis. I said that for months, for months, Trump DeSantis. If he's smart politically, if he's a strategic thinker, which I don't think he is, he comes in as VEEP and then he, or a member of the cabinet, whatever, and then he slide seamlessly into the top slot for 2028. That's not happening now.

Number one, this weird thing that he hasn't declared, dude, you change the constitution of Florida so you can run as an incumbent governor. What the hell are you waiting for? And then, after the brag announcement and the indictment, he's toast. Oh, two things. The flip flop on Ukraine.

And then the brag indictment, this guy is not ready for prime time. What he did on that press conference the Monday after the indictment leaked was despicable as a former former Jack in the Navy to say, I'm not gonna get involved in these things. Dude, he's a resident of Florida. You are involved whether you like it or not and not once twice to make the, I don't know about how much money for porn stars, your child. That's, that's, we saw the real rondis antis on that Monday presser. You said that not once, but twice of a president

who actually made you governor. Let's be clear. He was like 12 points behind the other guy in the primary president Trump taps him and he's number one and why see popular It's like in everybody loves Austin powers. What is dot-ron DeSantis? He's the mini me to President Trump. I'm sorry. I'm sorry What he's doing in here is Trumpian whether it's taking on the transgender The DEI open for business.

I mean, this is a little version of President Trump in Florida. And then you flip flop on Ukraine, not ready for prime time. Sorry. Do you think it's leadership? Do you think it's policy? Do you think it's marketing? It's character.

Tell me what do you mean by it's character. It's character. He doesn't have it. I can't explain it better. Saturday night, it leaks... Yes. ...that the man who campaigned on I will put Trump in prison, who got a million dollars from George Soros,

and then becomes the DA in Manhattan. That man is going to charge President Trump with 34 total garbage out of date, Mr. Meen has magically turned into felonies. And on Monday, you have a press conference about something. And the reporter says, what's your reaction to the news of the indictment of the 45th President? Why don't you know about Hashemani for porn stars? And let me repeat that again.

And I'm gonna concentrate on Florida. So I'm not gonna talk about this. You're a former military prosecutor. You're a former Jag. You don't have a opinion on this? That the 45th president, after the Mar-a-Lago raid is now facing the Manhattan D.A. Oh, and by the way, he's a resident of the state your governor of and he helped make you governor.

You're a child, Ron. You're a child. You're like in high school. You're like in the click. And I did not come. She's ugly. It's like, come on, grow up. So which part of this character do you think failed in there? You've got integrity, personal, intimate loyalty. What part of the character? Honor. Honor. It's a lack of honor. It's a lack of honor. So self-interested pride, Gleetian, to a lack of honor. A cherished childish attitude to questions of honor. I mean, sorry.

I don't care who you are. You shouldn't have to be a former prosecutor. But to say that what has happened against this man is not political persecution, you're not a good person to say that. This man's home was raided. His wife's wardrobes were turned over by armed agents of the federal government despite the fact that his home is protected by the secret service.

And you have nothing to say about that. Nothing to say about that. That's a lack of honor. Well, he's expected to declare this week. Wait, so it's supposed to be, it was supposed to be yesterday. I mean, how many times have to be, it was supposed to be yesterday. I mean, how many times have we heard? Next Monday, Ron's declaring. What's he waiting for? Fair enough, but this is supposed to be the week. And for all intents and purposes,

I'm very confident he is going to be declaring any day now. Okay. So, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, don't do it, don't do it. But he's gonna do it. I respect your opinion here, but he's gonna do it. Uh huh. passes passes pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass He's basically not just the Republican mega donners. I mean, this is this is the stuff that people need to wake up to and you know get red-pilled. Can Griffin. Citadel Kabul.

Obama Bundler is funding him. Can we just repeat that sentence for everybody who missed it? Obama Bundler. Billionaire. Can Griffin is funding Ronda Santas. You want to see people like Peter Teele potentially even Elon Musk, but think about this. What? Why is it no Obama Bundler? Obama Bundler even being allowed to give him a dollar? This is creepy. This is weird, right?

Why would he not be allowed to give this hand this money? Well, is he MAGA or is he deep state Obama-Bundie? I'll take you whoever's money. Is he America first? Is this in a capital based in Illinois? So potentially there's a relationship there. We just Senator of Illinois. Obama was.

I go back to my primary statement here. America's divided by those who love America, and those who hate it. This guy hates America. Who hates America? Ken Griffin? Yeah, totally. Then Ken Griffin, who's made billions of dollars,

hates America? You know, George Soros is rich, right? And hate America. Yeah, I'm more not saying, I mean, you're saying that Ken Griffin. Rich doesn't mean you hate America. Yeah. You know, George Soros is rich, right? And I'm more not saying, I mean, are you saying that Ben Rich doesn't mean you love America. I hear you, but you're saying that Ken Griffith, George Soros. If you're bundling for the man who rode on me, I will fundamentally transform America.

Yeah. If you're a former bundler for the guy who said, I hate America so much, I'm gonna change it until you can't recognize it. Who's wife on an all-grave-room day says, this is the first time in my life, I'm proud of America. Yeah. Who's had that?

Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama. Yeah, it's a problem. These are the things that you have to pick up on. You can't smooth these over. I'm trying to unpack everything you just said. So number one, the question was asked of Giuliani of him running as a VP.

Apparently he cannot because they're both residents of the state of Florida. So you can't, Giuliani, Rudy Giuliani. Regarding the San, regarding the Santhas running, which Trump apparently he can't because they're both residents of the state of Florida. You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't,

you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't smooth these over. I'm trying to unpack everything you just said. So number one, the question was asked of Giuliani, of them has to move out. So that's the, of course, if they decided that one can go to New York, and that's not gonna be hard to do. So that's one, number two, in regards to his comments right after what happened at Marlago, can I think about it

from a competitive standpoint, a moment of personal interest knowing the guy that's in the way of your life long dream becoming a reality just got you know indicted and they went to his place and this is pretty much a short shot for you to become a president and you're excited about it. So let me just you know capitalize on this. Yes, does that show a quality of selfishness that the guy that helped you get there now you're not defending him. Okay, fair. That's a very fair assessment on what you're saying.

You know, what happens next with his announcement, him delaying it? I don't understand that part. It's a shit show to me. You come out with your book four months ago. When you come out with a book that book is only a book written for election to run for office. Nobody, the timing, the playbook has always been the same. Write the book, launch it, go out there talking about it so people can read your

book and say, okay, this is what this guy is running on. Fine, I like him, I don't like him, I didn't know that this was cool. And by the way, I actually think it's a great book. I think he missed a mark with the book. I read the book. I thought he edified Trump multiple multiple times in the book. This would have been a very good opportunity But maybe somebody said it's not that big of a book Just do a couple different things here and there and then go out then you lose a Megan Kelly who doesn't like a Trump That calls you out for not agreeing to go on her show and talk to other people like us that is gonna move your book You don't want to do that. Okay. That's that's not look. Now, on the flip side, for you, saying what you said about

his mishaps, the people that are not Trump people could say, are you kidding me? Do you want me to talk about the 15 mishaps with what the president said and what he did in his past and this and this and that? That's gonna be their argument. So I think that kind of cancels each other out. The question then becomes, okay.

So I asked this question of Clay Travis and Buck's sexton, okay, they're here and I said, I said, you guys sound like a spokesperson for DeSantis, that's what you sound like, because they were both very much good guys, but they're both not necessarily siding with, Trump, they're siding more with DeSantis. Great, but there's the question that I asked. It was kind of interesting, by the way, because you know where I'm going to go with Trump, they're citing more with the Santas. Great, but there's the question that I asked. And it was kind of interesting, by the way, because you know where I'm gonna go with this, what they said.

In IASIS from Tulsi, for your thoughts here, how much power does the right person giving you money and endorsing you have in a presidential election? How much power influence does that have? I thank the good Lord. I've never been in the room where, you know, a donor or a rep of a donor has said to somebody, I know, you know, we did give you a million bucks last year.

What are you going to do for us? Now, that's how DC works, right? The lobbying functions on that basis, right? So Pfizer gives you X, and then the guy help from Pfizer helps you write the The legislation that goes to the Senate aid office and then that gets chewed around and put into the legislation So that's politics. No doubt about that about the spot on with that. Of course not I mean that's that's why law being exists Yeah, but this is where I'm going with that. I'm asking like okay

The endorsement the power of me being Schwartzman saying I I got the Santas, we're going with the Santas. Citadel, we're going with the Santas. Teal, going with the Santas. By the way, Schwartzman is not 100% confirmed because they came out, so nobody fully knows it. I think we'll find out next 30 to six months. But let's say a must comes out and says, I don't think we should have a president

above the age of 69, okay, seven years old. Rogan, hey, you know, the Santas more than Trump, right? Some of these guys, how much influence today? With the the social you're seeing Trump being on NELK boys and you know Ten million views and this is young gradients that you're appealing to they you go into places like that How much influence to the right? endorsements have in a presidential election like a Musk said I'm team the Santas 100% and let's just say he gave, I don't know, let's pick a number 50 million, a hundred million dollars, okay, to a pack. And I'm going to Santis, or I'm going Trump, vice, how much influence does a person like that have? If I could answer that,

I would not be sitting here. I would be, you know, flying my helicopter around tropical islands with my kids. That is the question. Is that a desire we can get you helicopter? Let's do that. Can we scale out the helicopter? A fast, we're going to do that. Done.

There are several Bahamas 30 minutes away. We can fly around. Let's do it. How much is an endorsement worth it? I watched all of your Talsi, and I think she said the right answer depends upon who's doing the endorsing. Let's say Musk. And who the candidate is.

Let's say Musk, he's proper the centrist. He's, so his my response, I think 2024 is gonna be a lot like Carda versus Reagan, because it's gonna boil down to one question. Are you bet, this is what Reagan asked the American people. Are you better off than you were four years ago? It's not about anybody else. Richard Barris is the only pollstried trust in America.

Richard was on my show last week and he said, the only question, it's not about dissantists, it's not about anybody else, it's not about Kamala, it's about Biden versus Trump. That's the next election. That's the only question. That's the only question people have in their mind. Do you think Trump should debate the other guys

on the Republican side or not? I, you know what, one of the things I'm very grateful to President Trump for apart from hiring me is, do you remember how fun politics was? He made fun, politics fun again. Those primaries were awesome. I mean, I would love to see 30 people on the primary debate stage. It's like, you know, WWF, let's do it.

Bring it. Everybody. And you think he would welcome that. Yeah, he knows that stuff. So that's the part I agree with because the lot of people are saying the fact that Trump's not going to do, you know, the debates and all that. I think he's looking forward to it because for him, you ever seen him being roasted, you know, what is that?

When they do the roast and snoop gets up there and all these guys are roasting him. And the company said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he just sits there and he takes it. You know, most people don't not brave enough to be roasted. I actually think he is a roaster and I think a natural roast. I think he can't wait to roast all these guys

on the right with the debate. But go back to the question. Yeah. Go back to the question. You still haven't answered it. No, because I don't think I, I just, your opinion, I'm not looking for a factual statement. I would be super excited if Elon said, yeah, Trump's the guy. But I don't think it really makes a difference.

I don't think people walk in to the ballot box and say, yeah, I'm voting for Ron, but I agree. But I don't disagree. but here's a question. I don't disagree if anybody endorses Trump, meaning the Trump vote, no one cares if you endorse him. Right. Do you understand what I'm saying? But what matters is to the Santas.

Oh, the Santas. So if a Musk says I'm the Santas and here's 50, 100 million bucks. How big of an endorsement is that for the Santa's? I'll give you my answer, please. It's irrelevant. You think so? It's irrelevant. Why is that? Because politics has become, since Brexit,

Trump, Modi, Orban, and Maloney. Politics has been boiled down to one thing and one thing alone, authenticity. It doesn't matter money. Do you know how much money Hillary spent against us? We spent $ alone, authenticity. It doesn't matter money. Do you know how much money Hillary spent against us? We spent $800,000. The $800 million. Legally, what we know of legally,

she spent $1.4 billion. Are you Colin Biden, the most authentic president of all time? No, I'm saying they stole the election. That's another thing that has. Sorry YouTube, there saying they stole the election. That's another thing that's sorry YouTube. There were issues with that election. Yeah, I think by the way, and you're just so you know, you saying that, he said that at the town hall and it sounds like that's gonna be a one of the talking points over the next 17 months. Well, when people say get over it, don't

talk about it. It's like that's what the left wants you to say. Do you understand? They want you not to talk about the life that I think the approach for me, Sebastian, would be to follow. Let me tell you what's one of my biggest concerns. When it comes on to election, specific to election, I think election fraud has been going on for a long time. And I think election fraud is something

that they've gotten better and better and better at. But I also think election fraud, we can figure out a way to make it as close to the public electronic thing as you mentioned it. Yes, I think, I think, I love it. What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is the following. If he campaigns on that, I'm all, I'm going to be saying it off the top of my lungs. If it's, hey, what if we can do the following? We have blockchain technology, we have this, we have that.

Do you remember that one time he got up and he showed the PowerPoint, the pictures that was being shown on a, it was a regular conversation, he was showing bullet points. Here's what we're gonna do with COVID and then went to the next slide and the next slide. What if they got up and he showed technology

and says, look, here's what's available today for elections. Due to blockchain technology, this is what we can do to make sure all of your votes count. And quite frankly, some of you guys have a busy schedule to the people on the left that don't have the time to go vote. Guess what? No problem.

To the people that are in a military that are overseas. No problem. Here's what blockchain technology will do. And we have three different options of companies to use. If I get elected, what we're going to do is, we're gonna make this thing so easy and clear and honest that everybody knows your vote's gonna get elected. We can see it, you can go, look at it,

ta-da-da-da-da-da. I think that is a campaign message that's gonna get people to say, I want honest and fair voting, I'm for it. Rather than pulling the Hillary Clinton one of, well let me tell you, you know, Russia this, yeah. I just don't think that's attractive to people that are capitalist and dependent doers.

I raise my kids to not be helpless. I raise my kids to be, we're gonna go beat these guys no matter what, if they're doing this, get tougher, get stronger, get bigger. But if we expose them from this standpoint standpoint then the left has to argue what how unfair and racist it is to get people that don't have ideas but wait a minute I need an idea to buy this so then they're gonna lose that argument so I say no I like it and it's very trumpian to say we're gonna fix it and his take that is that problem there's a problem though it's not his job right

the US Constitution is clear the states run run elections. He can say, the states should use blockchain and the state house should buy this, but the president has no path to do it. But you know what he can say. He can say, the states that decide to use blockchain, we're going to give x, y, z to contribute and support with the technology. And we're going to do that. I think that can be said. Yeah, I like it. To me, that is similar messaging on what you're saying. So, hey, if you think there was fraud, here's what we can do. Here's a way to solve it.

Boom. So, okay, so let's go back to Casey Desantis. I'm gonna read a story. I just wanna get your thoughts on this. If you have any opinions on it, at all. So, pop up, pop up, pop up, what page is it on? There it is. Okay.

So, Casey and Ron Desantis, okay. The greatest asset and his greatest liability. This is a political article that's written, let me go to page 8. All right, here we go. The KC DeSantis problem, his greatest asset in his greatest liability, political main 19th. KC DeSantis, wife of Rhonda Sant Santa's significant figure in his political career and often seen as his greatest asset She's charismatic Telegenic and has a policy portfolio of her on by which she's a beast in smaller setting I couldn't even believe how powerful she was unlike Ron unbelievable how she was on a smaller set

However, some view KC has both an important advisor in her political liabilities She's heavily involved in decision-making leading to a small inner circle around Ron. Suggest she is hesitant to seat power and can be vindictive, leading to conflict with staff and strategic mistakes. Now again, this could be a hit piece that going after her, the truth, who knows. The role of Casey DeSantis is a matter of concern and debate for many. With some believing, she humanizes and enhances Ron's image while others worry about her influence and a need for a more professional team around him. What are your thoughts about Casey?

Well, first things first, I kind of, I saw the run down in the green room and I saw this article was in there. I was a little bit uncomfortable because I think wives are, you know, they're out of bounds. They came after my wife, she was a presidential appointee in the DHS, but she wasn't a public figure. When they came after her, the daily beast, all these scumbags and half-po, that's the

easiest way to piss me off. If you're not a public figure, they're sacred. Your partner, your spouse is sacred. And the only interaction I've had with her, and I wanna put this on the record because I haven't talked about it anywhere else, is when I found out about her cancer, about a year ago, on my show, we got like three and a half million listeners,

and I'm Catholic, I believe. I said, would you just take a moment, dear friends, and just say a prayer for Casey, and for the disantis family? And I did it because I saw the news and I thought let's use this power of prayer. About a month later, I get a letter from the office of the First Lady of Florida and it's her thanking me.

I've never received anything. I mean, apart from present-send of me stuff, which is fine, it's my old boss. I've never received something from a public figure of that ilk to thank me for some respect. Respect. A total respect. A total respect. So, I'm not going to qualify her politically.

I will say one thing, he does need somebody to humanize him because he is not, you know, you've met him, right? The guy is not warm and fuzzy. I mean, he knows how to slam down the media and it's beautiful to watch, but he's not a people person. He's not a people person. So I appreciate that and my feeling about her is the same way, however, I have a big however, I'll be the bad guy, you can be the nice guy. So, and I haven't heard anything bad about her, but where was that piece? This is political, but it's also coming from a few others as well. I mean, it's not just that that's talking about them.

Insider said a few things, which doesn't say much about insider. But here's the part. For me, I come from a different angle. You ever seen a movie air, the recent movie with, you're not a basketball guy. So this movie, the story of Michael Jordan, how Nike landed him, et cetera, et cetera.

There's a scene with Sonny McCarrion that's preparing Michael Jordan for the fall to say listen Yes, you're gonna win championships. Yes, you're gonna win MVP. Yes, you're gonna do all this stuff great But guess what they're gonna come after you and for me there's different types of wives meaning Ivanya might say Melania is the kind of a wife First lady to me that's kind of like, listen, I support you. I'll go do the shaking hands, all this stuff,

but I'm not gonna be Michelle Obama. It makes sense, like this is your job. I got Baron as my job, and I'm gonna be this, but do not get me involved, and guess what? I view President Donald Trump saying, you're totally fine, babe. Do what you gotta do. I got this. That's kind of how I view that. For me, Barack, you're totally fine babe, do what you gotta do, I got this. That's kinda how I view that, okay? For me, Barack, if you bring Michelle in

and Michelle's also throwing punches, if we get into a fight, let's just say me and my wife, a woman comes and a husband and wife are fighting us. If he's swinging, and if my wife swings her at her, she swings back, I'm not gonna be surprised. That's what her job is, let's just say. But if my wife is like, listen, let's step aside, let's have our husbands kind of do their thing. That's what I see. But Casey is a also a fighter. So, but is she doing that fighting publicly? Like Michelle? I don't think no, I don't see

her as Michelle at all. I don't see her as Michelle. But I think she's part of the campaign. The whole thing, Casey and Ron DeSantis have such a close partnership. They've morphed into a singular entity, people called the DeSantai, right? Not the DeSantis political. There's a part of this that if you play to this card, I do believe they have to be ready that people are going to come after her because she is one of the goals. They have to be ready. They have to be ready.

They have to be ready. So I just want to make sure it's not going to be like, hey, unfair what they're doing. No. Expect the darkest of the ways to approach you. And to me, if the approach is kind of like it's unfair what they're doing, it's got to be more totally get it. If we're choosing to have the highest job in office in America,

this comes with the territory and we're told you, okay, with that, that to me is a little bit more of a, you know, respect, but I got to tell you, I've been a lot of small group settings and I've seen a lot of wives that are super power and a couple power. She is very, very solid. And what I mean by solid, charisma, charm, likability, incredible communicator, smart,

intelligent, true believer, mannerisms, respect and husband, edifying him, getting out of the way, not the shadow, doesn't need the limelight, doesn't even take the, the shots that Michelle would take out Obama, I don't know if you know what shots I'm talking about, sometimes she kind of undermines him, zero. All of that, she's a dime in the way of a first lady.

So I think that is gonna be a big part for him. You made a comment to her when you said, you kind of gotta be out there more. I don't know how much of a role she's going to be playing. I think if she does play a role, she's a very strong, she's a very strong, a strength of his if it's used. Who else is gonna have that?

I'll just add one thing, when we did have a brief conversation, I told her to her face, I said, I was very impressed with how you handled it yourself. And she was almost like, you think so? You think I should talk this much? I was like, keep doing that what you're doing. It was very, very impressive.

Super impressive. Maybe she should be out there more. I think so. And by the way, I won million percent think. So again, I have no clue who is their marketing manager. Some see it. It is. Oh my God.

That way. His influence is on Twitter. I know these guys. These were friends of mine. They are just so unprofessional. It's shocking. Well, he's about to join the big leagues right now. What?

I mean, try. Well, correct. He's going to be announcing. And I think I'm sort of half joking, but I'm actually being honest. I think he needs the higher, like the queer eye for the straight guys makeover team and realize we are now going against. Yeah. Whether you like them or not, one of the most great market.

Can you imagine? Ron DeSantis announces his marketing manager, Jadilla Moveini, for him to become the most relevant personal social media. Zero chance of that. Yeah. Or the butt lights of VP of marketing. She's looking for something, right? But he is going against whether you like him or not,

one of the most brilliant marketers ever with Donald Trump. And whether it's, he can do the policy thing all day long, that's not going to move the needle. He needs to learn the marketing strategy. He's to go to. There's nobody better. No, nobody. He's not going to move the needle. He needs to learn the marketing strategy. He's used to go to nobody better. Nobody. He's the goal of mark. We still talk about those nicknames. We still talk about little Marco. We still talk about, you know, crooked Hillary. We still talk about them seven years later. He is the ultimate. Ted Cruz is right. Lang

Ted Cruz's wife is still very ugly in the face. By the way, Epstein, or you fall on the story with Gates at all or? I am, I'm not interested. I mean, Gates is like a nerd with too much money and maybe he ran around with girls or with two young. It's like, seriously, I wanna see the list. I wanna see the list. I don't care about that.

I wanna see the John's list. Okay, so here's the question. Do you think that is? I asked this question on Twitter the other day if you wanna pull this up, I did a poll. And I said, which of these four things would you want to 2024 candidate to talk about? I don't know if you saw this or not.

The four issues, and then I said, I saw your thing about Biden economy versus Trump and from now, that was as a sexist. I liked that, that was good. As a sexist. Credit goes to our guy from a role. Anyways, put this up there there zoom in a little bit wow So okay exactly so which issues matter to the most in 2020 and I said for any other issues below that's interesting

Investigate the church it's 20,000 votes investigate the Wuhan lab lowest But you sprain is big you crane and in by the way, that's a big part of his play 39% order immigration. 33% and nobody can do what he does. No, I know when he says it land in 24 hours, it will agree. And nobody, I totally agree. Nobody can say that. I totally agree.

But the Epstein list, do you think that is something that people are interested in? You think that's a enough of a list for camp for somebody who can't pay in behind or not really? I think these are your followers, right? These are your listeners, right? These are people who are interested. I don't think that is, look, you have to understand everybody in this room is a freak, right?

Because we're into politics. Most Americans are not into politics. They want to make the car payment at the end of the month and make sure the kid is a new pair of sneakers for the new semester, right? Epstein for most Americans like, hmm, who, what? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. It's important because we need to know who went to that island. We need to know.

I don't think it's a campaign issue. It's going to be the board. Look, who said it? It's the economy stupid. It's going to be the economy and the border. And those two things are needed. James Carville. Yeah, right. Clinton. Right. Clinton, Bush. Yeah, but that's it. The russia thing is fascinating. 38.8%. Interesting. It's not even, I mean, it's not even a close to top two. No, no, no, no. And people how quickly they're over COVID. I am shell shocked that investigate Wuhan lab is not higher. But how is that possible? And assume our audience, like assume, even, I thought our audience would have been hired in 7.6 percent, but even our audience is saying, now listen, and I'm over it. We got bigger things to show two years later. Boom, done with that.

Let's go. What's going on? America moves on. How quickly America moves on? At this pace, we're going to be wearing Kanye West's shoes. What, you're from now with the leaders. That's coming soon, guys. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.'s coming soon guys. I'm not sure. It's since President Trump's gonna walk up to it. Maybe the Sanctus will. To speak to that, if we're looking forward,

not backwards, doesn't that give sort of testimony to stop doing the election denial thing because people are over it? Isn't that a case right there? I don't know. I partially, but I'm telling you, for me, I made a video 11 years ago, 10 years ago, on how I would change voting. I'm gonna text to you for you to watch.

It's not a private video, it's not a public video. How to change the voting system, right? To me, I don't like our system on the way we vote. I don't trust it, I'm not comfortable with it. I don't even like the way it's set up for the structure of it. So I think that is something I would be talking about if I'm campaigning, but I'm not. I'm just a guy that's running businesses. Completely different ballgame. We're playing here.

Have you seen Kild Chain? Kild Chain? The documentary Kild Chain. I have not. You need to watch Kild Chain. Kild Chain was made by the Democrats before the 2016 election. And it's got Senator Warren and all these people. And it is an hour and a half on how you can hack our elections and how the biggest threat

to America is hacked elections. You can't find, it's very hard to find now, watch Kilt chain. Kilt chain, they go to eBay, they buy Dominion, computer, they take it to a cyber hacking conference within 30 minutes, the machine is hacked. I mean, you're allowed to talk about it until a certain point when you're not allowed to talk about it, but what you said earlier is correct. They've been doing this for 60 years. Think about it. We're in America, the only nation on the planet that put men on the moon six times. And we make jokes about Philadelphia, Chicago, and Baltimore stealing elections. We make jokes about. Yeah.

You don't need high tech to do this if you've been doing it for 60 years. But it is a problem that needs to be fixed. The idea that India can have voter ID, India, more than a billion people. Mexico, with a civil war, with an insurgency, with the cartels, has voted to ID and we don't, that's insane. By the way, what you just did right there, I would have somebody on his team create a 10-slide power point, the next time he's speaking, and you know how he goes through his speech,

and just showed this. Did you know India has voter ID? Did you know? Because American people are gonna say, wait, Mexico is more advanced than us. India is more advanced. I come, we don't have this. We should have this as well.

That's what gets people thinking. Now, next story I want to get into is about what NAACP just announced. I don't know if you saw that or not. The travel ban? Yes. Hate inspired leadership. NAACP joins other groups and warning against travel to Florida.

This is a Miami-Herald story from yesterday. The old civil group, civil rights group in the US, has issued a travel advisory urgent travelers to reconsiderism in Florida due to the states, openly hostile leadership significantly, specifically citing governor on the census attempts to ban books about race and LGBTQ identities, and his opposition to diversity and inclusion programs and colleges, NAACP Derek Johnson president, argues that the refusal to teach and accurate

representation of challenges faced by African Americans is a disservice to students and a neglect of duty. Other civil rights organizations, such as LULAC and Equality Florida, have also shoot travel warnings for Florida, citing concerns over the census crackdown on immigration and the potential risks to health, safety and freedom. However, tourism on Florida remains strong with record

numbers of visitors and local leaders emphasized their city's commitment to diversity and inclusion. By the way, I wouldn't even be surprised if the NAACP is in stain at Miami for a summertime to go to the church. Oh, then under that chairwoman. Jesse Waters is the thing on his show last night. Yeah. That chairwoman just posted from Twitter her holiday vacation in Florida.

The NAACP chairwoman. Exactly. All right. These are politically motivated. Oh, this is a boycott. It's about wrong. No, this is a political boycott that has no teeth whatsoever. Budweiser is down by, by some estimates, 28 percent, thanks to the Bud Light boycott,

which has been very effective and very welcomed by coars and competitors. On one hand, on the other hand, you look at the diversity in Florida, you look at diversity at the beaches. Someone didn't get the memo that you were supposed to boycott and maybe go to some other place. Well, how about Chicago? And it has no teeth in it. How about Chicago? Well, why don't we boycott, you know, Chicago?

You, 22 people shot last weekend and I can guarantee you that most of those are black Americans. So why don't we boycott in Chicago or Baltimore? The average weekend on Chicago is 10 people killed and 50 shot. The average weekend, but the NAACP, straight back, I was mad at, doesn't care about the people being killed in Chicago. That's just hypocrisy. Yeah, I don't think this travel ban is doing anything or this travel warning is doing anything to mitigate people

from traveling to Florida, whether it's the Panhandle, whether they're going to Disney World or Orlando, whether they're coming to South Beach and Miami, people are coming. Nobody's like, you know that vacation we've been working on for the last two months for the summer, let's go. Yeah, there's the NAACP made this warning,

but they're like, dude, we're going to party, stop it. You say that, but I literally had a guest that scheduled for your podcast that sent an email yesterday, hey bro, I want to confirm it's safe for me and my family to travel there still. I'm seeing this over the internet and news. I'm coming with my girlfriend and our two sons is it safe or should we

reset you and then they included an Instagram post to the N. W. A. P. I don't say the name can you text me the name who it is by the way yes can you text me and meanwhile show the show the me my just sent you guys send me this I thought it was something very interesting to think about, Tulsi's textum right now, but can you post this real quick which makes you think and by the way whether you like this meme or not there is a lot of truth behind this meme. Here's what the meme is done. I don't know if you've seen this one. Take a look at this Adam. What's Tulsi texting? Bop-bop-bop.

White. Yes. Yes. White asylents. Yes. Yes. White victim, nobody cares. Black asylent, black victim, nobody cares. Black asylent, white victim, nobody cares. White asylent, black victim, people lose their mind. There's your news, there's your mainstream media narrative. That's the narrative that they will support.

That's nilly, that's. That's the filter for the stories, right? Yeah, no, but this is what makes, and by the way, didn't they just have a 25,000 hazians had a event here, happy, doing an event in Florida, right? You look at the crime on what's going on. You look at how many people are moving here to Florida. Statistically, that argument loses a lot of weight

when they say you gotta be careful moving to Florida. I love it how people can say things like that, but data argues completely the other way than you do. This is what happened with Newsom. Newsom talked about how terrible Florida is. More people, the more he talked shit about Florida, the more people from California wanted to move to Florida. And it's not slowing down.

And by the way, this is due to a great governor, a guy named Ron DeSantis. Thanks, Donald Trump. Yeah. He's... Okay. He's freaking Newsom. Okay. Newsom, the green governor with half a barrel of oil in his hair. Yes, I think. Yeah, let's let's talk about this

Let's talk about this other story. I'm trying to see which one to go through. Let's go through this one your page 15 A meeting. I don't know if you were invited to this meeting or not your accent says yes But your value says no a secretive annual meeting attended By the world's elite has AI top of the agenda, CMBC story. Open AI, CEO Sam Altman joins tech leaders and political heavyweights at the Selective Annual Builderburg meeting in Lisbon, Portugal. They're public about it now, so I'm gonna pry it.

I know, it's the builders. Yeah, the meetings agenda places a strong emphasis on artificial intelligence and includes discussion on topics such as the banking system, China Energy Transition, Europe Europe physical challenges, India industrial policy and trade, NATO, Russia, transitional threats, Ukraine, and U.S. leadership. The three-day event attended by approximately 130 participants from 23 different countries maintains which prevent the disclosure of speakers, identities and affiliations.

The clandestine nature of the meeting has given rise to conspiracy theories, but organizers state that it facilitates open and unrestricted discussions. The Bilderberg meeting established in 1954 aims to promote dialogue between Europe and North America and these parties pay as individuals rather than an official capacity. When a meeting like this happened, what do you think about this? Is there anything behind it? Is it the conspiracy theories? Do they have anything right about this?

Or is it just guys coming together to talk about the future threats? Look, I love conspiracy theories. I'm actually launching a new TV show that's expressly about them, but I like them as entertainment. There's a reason they call theories and not conspiracy facts.

They've been, or is this news that rich people who are powerful hang out with each other and think they can run the world? No, I mean, go back to Bretton Woods. Go back in time to any elite that has power, that has money, they think that they can shape the future. The Roth Childs, Bohemian Grove San Francisco. On and on and on, on and on. Medici. Yeah, this isn't new. I'm back to Mac Medici. We're about to be the idea that we can't just pull the plug at some point on this stuff

when it gets too scary. Turn it in reference for a good. Yeah. I mean, you know, the idea that it helps you write your college essays. Okay, that's really exciting. I mean, okay. But the idea that this is some threat to humanity, I'm open to hear people who are building this stuff.

Tell me, yes, this is the greatest threat to humanity. But while we've got 6 million people crossing the border illegally, 110,000 people dying from fentanyl, China remilitarizing Russia with nuclear weapons, invading other people's countries, I'm not going to get too excited about this stuff. Tom. Well, I think there's been going on for a long time. And you go back to Rothschilds and the banking.

And I think that when groups of people like this get together, it draws a lot of fire and a lot of magnetism to what's going on there. And I think what's also going on is you've got the purveyors of AI trying to get the political elite to calm down about AI. You have to remember what's going on here. There's a lot of money to be made in these companies and a lot of investment. Billions of dollars have already been invested in AI. So you have Sam Altman, open AI CEO and Y Combinator famed incubator, saying, easy does it.

Easy does it. Yeah, there could be some things here, but easy does it. Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, different ways. So either one of you gets, if you got an invitation to go to the builder, uh, uh, to build the, uh, builder, builder work meeting, would you go to it if it's not a big, I hate these people. Why would I go? Okay. So you have no desire to go to zero, but they want to get your perspective.

You're poor. I don't care. I don't care. The, the, these people, the people matter are you. I'm not a diplomat. You know what, the only other job I, what's three jobs I do in the next administration?

What's that? Uh, do National Security Advisor, I'd run personnel, you know, the only third one for shits and gring. What's that? I do national security advisor. I'd run personnel. You know, the only third one for shits and green. What's that? I'd be ambassador to the UN. So I could walk in there and the whole building would catch a flame. That's the diplomacy.

No, forget about it. This is America. It's about leadership. It's about being the greatest nation on God's Green Earth. These people hate the people. Should the people that are tenacious, you think? They hate the people and they hate them. Of course they do. Of course they hate the people. Should the people that are 10- They hate the people. They hate the people and hate them. Of course they do. Of course they hate the people.

They chose the wrong person in 2016. They chose the wrong box when the Brexit vote. They chose the wrong person in Hungary. They hate the choice of the people. Why is populism a dirty word? Think about that for a second. Populism is a dirty word. Excuse me?

The thing you're doing is popular with the most people. That tells you everything you need to know. When the left made populism, a pejorative, you realize what they think of the average person. I traveled with President Trump on Air Force One to Youngstown, Ohio. Now Youngstown is deep rust belt, okay? We got off Air Force One at a military base.

No press, no nothing. He got into the beast. We had about a 20 minute ride to the stadium. Okay? On the left hand side, all we saw was shuttered, closed steel mill, you know, broken glass, broken windows. On the other side of the road, people modestly dressed with their children on the side of the road, waving a little stars and stripes. We get to the stadium, the bosses in the back with the VIPs. I decide to go into the pit, take selfies with people. I realized that these are all Democrats, that dads were Democrats, their grandparents worked in the mill. When he came out on stage with Melania, he couldn't give a speech for minutes because they were screaming USA, USA, USA, USA. Those are the people the builder burgers hate.

The people who built America by the sweat of their brow. I have no interest hanging out with those people. Got it. I was going to say they were telling us there's an implication for you. Go, you go. I'll go. I'll go. I was trying to get you to the halloween. They have no interest for you. I'll do the halloween.

Now you're saying that. So you just heard his answer. The answer is no. And I'll counter that Sebastian. I agree with you at about 94.625% of what you just said I agree with. Trata, very specific numbers. Yep. But I would go. I would go.

And if they're going to invite the Trojan horse to their con van, I'm going. Would you touch the Trojan horse? Never. Let's do it. Touch it. Okay. Ukraine, Russia. You briefed a lot of O5s, O6s and one stars.

This is a question from a lot of different people, right? Get asked and you hear the answer. How can you not see what Russia is doing? How can you not see what Ukraine is doing? How can you not see the fact that there's ties between Biden and Ukraine? Do you not remember what he said publicly? If you don't do this and I'll do this, how can you not see all this stuff? And then, hey, F-16, yeah, maybe we'll let him train.

And if somebody else gives him, we're not going to get in the way. Are you saying you're not going to give him F-16s? We may, we don't know right now, I can't answer that. So what is your thoughts on what's going on over there? I wrote a piece on my sub-stack, as soon as the war came out, you can check it, I haven't changed my opinion then. I remember the good old days when conservatives hated KGB kernels and thought Russia invading other countries was bad.

I remember those days, the idea today that, oh, he's a champion of the West and he's a Christian. You mean the same guy who persecuted Christians when he was a uniform wearing member of the KGB? What about the bio-labs? Oh, who built the bio-labs? The Soviet Union built the bio-labs. That's interesting.

And then the question that, well, we shouldn't help them because Ukraine's corrupt. Huh, that's the dumbest one. Is DC corrupt? Do you think Biden's corrupt? If you do, does that mean China can just invade and roll their tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue? This is wrong.

The simplest way to understand it. Corruption up the Yazoo or not is this. This man is a bully. He's a bully who's said for 20 years, since he became president, he's been giving lectures, how Ukraine, how Poland, how the Baltic States, are illegitimate, have no right to exist as independent states.

Go back to school, go back to when you're 10-year-old. What happens to the bully if he doesn't get challenged? What happens? He keeps on bullying. When he's he stop bullying, when you give the bastard a bloody nose. We're helping the Ukrainians give this guy a bloody nose. And to the last thing about this Tucka Carlson kind of who cares about the world pull down the shutters on the Pacific and

Atlantic, screw them all. If 1776 means something to you as an American, let me remind you that without the French, the Dutch and the Spanish, this would still be part of the British Empire. Period end of story. If the French hadn't blockaded the British, if the Dutch and the Spanish hadn't bankrolled Washington, meaning general Washington, we never would have won. This is their 1776. So if it means something to you, if our revolutionary will mean something, us helping other people fight their 1776, it should mean something to you as well. So, no apologies to people I've pissed off. Ukraine has a right to be independent. The Kremlin are a bunch of bastards, and we should help them fight for themselves. Not deploy the 82nd airborne. I'm not interested

in dumb wars and us fighting other people's wars. They should fight their wars and we should help them. End of story. How much heat do you catch from having this opinion? I mean, this is man alive. You're born and hungry. You understand Soviet communism. You understand Russian relations. I go on banish show every week.

This is not popular with the the war room hobbits and even with Steve. Now, if you, if you're in the Trump administration and you bring this opinion into the White House, what do you think he'll say to that? Oh, he gets it. I mean, President Trump, let's be very clear about what President Trump is.

He's not an interventionist, but he's not a Tucker and isolationist. Be very clear what he did. The guy who is accused today of being a Russian asset. Do you know what we did when we found 300 Russians running around Syria? Wagner Group, guys working for the Kremlin? You know what we did? He called up Mattis and he said,

turn them into red mist now, kill them all. We killed 300 Russian soldiers in Syria. No president since the revolution of 1917 has killed hundreds of Russians in wartime. We did, okay? He's not an isolationist. What happened in Syria when we saw the chemical... This is declassified now, I can talk about it. What happened when we saw the chemical weapons being pulled out of that air base again to

be used against civilians? Over troklok cake at Mara Lago with, with Xi Jinping eating his chocolate cake, the president lent over and said, I just launched fitted to a cruise missiles on that Syrian airbase. He's not interested in dumb wars. He's not interested in fighting other people's wars, but when you cross a line, we will make you extra crispy. That's President Trump.

Strength through leadership, a piece through strength. That is one of the most powerful moments for me in the White House As I went into the oval it was just me and the president and I was there to brief him on Iran, I think and He's very side-tracked. He's sitting sideways to the Resolute desk. He's reading some documents and I had a no where because I'm there to talk about the Iran deal and killing it and He says it looks up and he says Sebastian. I do not. It was something, just done something.

Sebastian, I do not want to have American GIs die on the Korean peninsula again. I mean, he would just, he just went so heavy, so fast. But if we have to go to war, we will. That's who he is. I don't want to, but only if it matters to our national security. That's why people don't understand who he is. You said Trump wouldn't end the war in Russia. But in Ukraine, how will he do that? Because Putin's afraid of him.

Think about what happened. After we killed 300 Russians working for the Kremlin in Syria, Putin didn't even have a press conference. You didn't even have a press conference. You think Putin is afraid of Trump? Totally. Why is that afraid of Trump? Because he doesn't know what Trump's going to do to him.

I'll give you an idea. CNN just announced that they put 500, put 500 people on the list that you can't visit Russia. I don't know if you saw that or not. Who's on the list? If you can pull this up, 500 names. Obama's on the list. John Huntsman's on the list.

You remember the form? Ambassador. Yes, Ambassador. He's on the list. Kimmel's on the list. Kimmel? Colbert's on the list. A bunch of guys are on the list.

But Trump's not on the list. So, you know, who knows what this means, but this just came out a few days ago. Yeah. Obama is on the list. Obama cannot visit Russia, but Trump can. Obama, Colbert, among 500 Americans banned from going to Russia. This just came out a couple days ago. Yeah, there it is.

That's the name. So let me wrap up with this story and I got a surprise for you. I think you're going to like our new thumbnail. I'm going to like it if you find it. I've seen it. I'm going to give it to you to show. I think this is legit and it's the truth. What we're about to do.

I did this while we were talking. I have an entire. You've been working. I have an entire team working on this thumbnail. My idea. And the helicopter. I hope you hear what I have for the show. Biden gets low rating on economy guns, immigration, and AP,

North Pole, AP News Pole, only 33% American adults approve a president by the handling of the economy while just 24%. Believe the national economic conditions are in good shape. Furthermore, only 31% approve of Biden's performance on gun policy and immigration issues. Among Democrats, the approval rating the higher, but still not overwhelming with approximately 61% approving of Biden's handling of the economy, 75% approving of his overall job performance.

However, Democrats are more pessimistic about the current state of the economy. Only 41% dissatisfaction with Biden's performance extends beyond party lines, as even some of his supporters express frustration with the post pandemic situation and a lack of bipartisanship in Washington. They're now saying it's the lowest approval rating ever in America. If that's the case, one, are the Dems going to let them really run? Are they going to get creative the next 17 months? Because if he does run, this is not, this is going to be very easy like you said to one line. Are you better off today than you were four years ago? That's the only question I gotta ask.

So is he really gonna be the candidate? Well, look, I just wanna know who the 31% is. Who the 31% in America, who the pro? The people that follow politics. Yeah, but a proof, a proof of Biden's performance. It's not good for a former strategist to the president to admit this. I don't have an answer to that question.

I ask this question every single day of my producer, how can they let this guy run? I mean, you look at him, just the last two years, just the mental and physical deterioration, him stumbling around Japan, him greeting dead people. How do you let this person run? And the only answer I have for you is there's really no mechanism for an incumbent president

to be removed by his own party. The DNC can't have a vote and say, you're not allowed to run again. The power of the incumbent see is almost total. However, there is that very peculiar interview he gave once, where he said he was asked, what happens, this is when when when Obama came in he said what happens if there's a disagreement between you and Obama and policy do you remember this

it was creepy he said I don't think we'll have a disagreement but but if we do I'll come up with an quote I'll come up with an ailment and I'll retire. Come up with an ailment. What the hell is that? So is he, are they gonna show him the video and say, hey Joe, it's time for you're the president now, but it's time for you to come up with an ailment. And then it's the cacler, then it's Kamala. And it's gonna be even more fun.

Then the debate's gonna be. You think it should be required to take a mental and physical test open to the public to be disclosed? No. I don't know. I don't know. Why? Because it's the will of the people.

I believe in this. Trump wants Biden. Oh. I'm convinced Trump wants Biden. I'm convinced he's hoping he's going to be here. Rocky three. Because that's it. It's not even a rocky fight though because I don't think too. He's hoping he's going to be. I want you. Rocky three. Because that's it. It's not it's not even a rocky fight though because I don't think he's this is not he's

not going against clever lang or he's not going against a. He wants retribution. No. Yeah. And it's an easy match up for him because all he has to do is talk resume. That's all he has to do. Okay. Couldn't one argue that and the single bigiden would be a Trump over DeSantis.

Biden would want Trump over. Like meaning if that if they're doing their strategy meeting and Biden is saying, all right, who would you rather want to I think he screwed with either one of them. I think he screwed with either one of it's just about who America wants more. I don't think he's in good shape with either one of them. So your latest book, The War for America's Soul.

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Looking forward to doing this again with you soon next 18 months, especially during this election run. Gang, we're about to announce the next live. Text as the following. This is what I want from you. The next live we're going to do at our lounge slash cigar lounge. Do you want it to be home team? Do you want us to have a guest? If yes, who do you want to have? Text the word podcast to 3103401132. The word

podcast to 3103401132. First, text the word podcast. Then let us know what format you would prefer. Having said that, be sure to order the book below and subscribe to his website, his substack. i believe we're doing it again tomorrow or my out of town tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow nine a.m. Rob Smith from turning point u.s.a. oh to home team we're going to do with robsmith tomorrow and i'm going to be new york tomorrow night take everybody bye bye bye