PBD Podcast - S&P 500 Dives As Trump Hints At Recession | PBD Podcast | Ep. 559
Episode Date: March 11, 2025Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosick, Tom Ellsworth and Vincent Oshana cover the S&P 500 dropping as Trump hints at a recession, Tucker Carlson calling out Tom Cotton over the JFK files release, Stephen... A Smith getting confronted by LeBron James, and Mark Carney replacing Justin Trudeau!-----📕 CELEBRATE NATIONAL READING MONTH: https://bit.ly/43xPwPI👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4📰 VTNEWS.AI: https://bit.ly/3OExClZ🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/4g57zR2
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Let's get into some of the stories that we got here.
Trump and Thomas Massey, we'll talk about that.
Trump is not happy with Thomas Massey for not approving it.
Thomas Massey responds back with a tweet.
There's a ton of people supporting Massey, and there's a ton of people that are saying
Massey's getting in the way.
We'll give our thoughts on that, on what's going on there. Representative Al Green blames discrimination for being censored after disrupting the Trump
speech.
We'll have that for you as well.
Freer of Trump has elite law firms in retreat.
Law firms are afraid, has to do a little bit with Soros, Hengtide, we'll come to that.
That's a WHA story.
Trump sends a letter to Iran on nuclear program, make a deal or face US military.
We'll see what that means and if that threat works.
When it comes down to tariffs, guys, there's a lot of stories on tariffs.
A lot.
China, Mexico.
China put a 100% tariff on certain products on Canada, which is kind of weird.
Tom's got some thoughts on that.
And then Commerce Secretary Lutnick emphatically shoots down recession concerns.
There's a lot of people talking about potential recessions, especially yesterday after Dow
loss was at 900 points in a daytime, was a Dow.
And apparently Tesla, there's a story of Tesla losing, is that the accurate number, $700
billion of valuation or is that just from the market?
That's cumulative.
Accumulative $700 billion of gains lost, Tesla stock nosedives since the victory.
We'll talk about what that really means there.
Then we have a Democratic frontrunner for 2020.
It goes after his own party.
Guess who they're talking about.
LA Times.
Mayor Karen Bass, tell me if you're surprised by this, is deleting text messages.
She is deleting her text messages.
Guess who reported on that story?
LA Times.
Guess who typically defends everything that left us?
LA Times.
LA Times is even done with their own mayor.
American sympathies for Israelis fall to record low.
Paul Fiennes.
We have Adam here to give us an update on what's going on over there.
Hundreds of minorities, including Christians, killed in Syria.
When you see these stories, devastating.
And this happened in a place where a lot of me and Vinny's family, Assyrians, came from,
which we'll discuss that as well here in a minute.
U.S. makes fresh push for World Bank to back nuclear power.
U.S. and exploratory talks with DR Congo over mineral deals, rebuilding L.A.'s economic
moment of truth.
That's an L.A. Times story.
Job cuts, ready, has surged 245% in February on federal government layoffs.
Jerome Powell says don't worry about, you know, he's not worried too much about
what's going on with the job reports that came in.
And he's not in a hurry to cut rates, some people aren't happy about that.
Canada, Mark Carney wins race to replace Trudeau as Canada's Prime Minister.
This guy's a former WF guy, former Bank of England governor.
Again, we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about Tesla stock.
Bill Maher slams liberal MSNBC obsessive fact checking of Trump.
Stephen A. Smith gets his $100 million contract and right after he gets his $100 million contract,
gets into a fight with Lebron James.
Lebron James walks up to him in the middle of the game.
There's a bunch of exchange.
I got my thoughts.
I know Vinny does as well.
We'll cover that.
Disturbing Annapalina calls out DOJ silence urging Bondi to release the Epstein files.
Why don't we not know about the Epstein files?
A lot of people are not happy about that.
Biden uses auto pen signature on many official White House docs.
You know what that is?
It's like you don't sign it.
It's auto pen like, you know, like stamp like somebody else can sign on behalf of you while you're golfing or while you're in Delaware at the beach, getting some sun.
Anyways, that's pretty concerning.
Some people are worried about it.
There's a video of Biden hugging Melania and the hand goes slightly lower.
She gets uncomfortable, moves a step towards Trump, Trump hugs her, asks her what just
happened, then whispers something to Biden, then everybody comes in.
If you haven't seen this, it's a spectacle.
Jasmine Crockett insists it's not a crime to illegally cross the border.
Brilliant.
Trump warns the rest of Palestinian activists that Colombia will be first of many.
We got a bunch of other stories here.
Whoopi Goldberg made some comments on International Women's Day.
By the way, you won't believe who they had as their guest for International Women's Day.
Let me say it again.
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Well, maybe you will believe.
Who they had as their guest on International Women's Day.
Tucker Carlson calls out one of the senators on a conversation with Cuomo that's holding
back many of the releases of the JFK files, which is kind of weird.
And then there was a cyber attack on X, you know, a bunch of other stories we got here
that we may go through.
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First story I want to get into for me is what happened with the president and biden a little bit awkward a little bit weird
Rob, if you can play this clip, so
Vinny help us understand when this clip is from and what's
going on here between President Trump, Bolania, Jill and Biden.
Okay, so at this point Trump has been sworn in.
They're outside.
They're waiting for Marine One to show up to get Biden and Jill to put them on their
farewell.
So as he's sitting there, you see Joe Biden and I'll get into the history of him after we see the video because I have my thoughts. You guys are going to watch,
he puts his hand, first of all, you should not be touching the first lady, period. Nobody's touching
Jill. Nobody's asking the doctor for any help or anything. He puts his hand on her back. It's a
long moment and then as he's leaving, he kind of swipes down on her butt
It's you're gonna be able to see and then they show both angles
I they show this angle and then they show the back
Oh, yeah, you're gonna take that right play the clip and then and then you're gonna see Trump lean in and then he brings him
Close like you know what it's how you bring her close to you
I understand then it's an awkward moment because everybody scrambles as to say what's going on what I want you to folks if you
Watch this it's very simple.
If you're married, specifically if you're married, okay, to the people that are married,
are you okay with this? Is this appropriate? Is this inappropriate? Watch the clip. Go for it, Rob.
Okay, so yeah, conversation. Look at Trump.
Trump's trying to see what he's saying to her.
And look, look, her hand, at hand hand hands still on her pat
Still on her look at him
So while this is happening, you know, he comes up to see what's going on she moves closer to him. Yep
And then he asks him a question and then em Hoff
Yeah, they're gonna there. I'm a lot there goes Doug rules about that type of behavior something got said. Yeah, there goes Doug, who knows about that type of behavior.
Something got said.
Yeah, what's going on?
You can tell Biden's a little bit concerned,
Trump's aggressive, not aggressive in his face.
Rob, show the other clip,
because this clip doesn't do it justice.
There's another clip from the back.
That's it, that's the one.
Can you make that bigger?
Go for it.
Look at the hands, folks.
Look it.
And that's real time. And then boom, dude, don't oh man. Okay, Tom, you're married your thoughts on
this. This is out of line. This is out of line. We all know what that is. All guys that have been
out there around other guys and there's dogs to be around. You got to be careful because they do that
kind of thing. And I really would have been very, very upset. That was an
intentional move. And that is the grabby Biden that we've seen in a creepy way around people.
And you see, Jill lean in. So you know, Trump said something. But me, I would have stepped between
her and my wife and just said, take a step back, dude, because this is kind of
a formal thing. I would have been I would have been really pissed off. Adam thoughts.
If Trump did have an issue with this, what are the chances that he would say something
publicly? What are the chances he would call out by them? If this look on the surface,
it looks slightly creepy. If he would have given her a nice little slap or we World War Three is breaking
out. This is par for the course for Joe. I don't know. You mean
you tell me par for the course you cut him slack half the time
he's seen now he doesn't know what he's doing half the time
he's vindictive malicious and he knows exactly what he's doing.
Which one is it? So,
this is a three out of 10 for me. Can I say my part though?
This is the type of behavior,
and Adam, and I get where you're coming from,
but that's always a go-to,
especially when it comes to Joe Biden is,
yeah, this is what we're supposed to expect him.
Oh, he's sniffing kids because he's a grandpa.
He's doing all this, but listen, he has a-
He does that, he does that. No, no, and by the way, he's gone, and good riddance, because he's a grandpa. He's doing all this, but listen, he has a track. He does that, he does that.
No, no, and by the way, he's gone and good riddance,
but he has a track record that speaks for himself.
He's had multiple allegations for inappropriate behavior
and sexual misconduct over the years,
especially with Tara Reid,
who accused him of sexual assault in 1993.
She worked for him when he worked in the Senate.
We've seen videos, and I sent the clip to Rob,
we don't have to see it again, Pat,
where he's sniffing kids and touching girls and inappropriate touching young females, okay?
And then his daughter wrote in her diary that he would shower with me at inappropriate ages, okay?
And now he's touching her back. It's like how many more things have to happen and let's not act as if this
government, these the people that I control, Pat, look at what's happening with the Epstein list.
They protect these type of people.
This is the type of behavior that they go, no, no, no, no, it's okay and now that we
want answers, we're not going to get answers from one of the biggest sex trafficking perverts
in the world.
And this is the type of behavior that I think we don't want.
Let me ask you this question.
Do you think Trump, do you think she said something to him that got Trump to say something
to him?
Yes. I think she was like to him that got Trump to say something to him? Yes.
I think she was like, he's creeping me out.
So do you think Kamala and the other people that walked up, why do you think the other
people walked up?
Because look at Jill.
Look at Jill.
Jill runs in.
Look at that.
Did you see that?
Jill's like, wait, what?
Question.
Yes.
Where is this in front of?
The Rotund, this is the Capitol.
This is the rear steps.
So this is during the inauguration.
This is the rear steps of the Capitol.
After the end of it. He's inaugurated
He's president they're on the back steps. Adam. What do you think she said to him? He grabbed my ass. What do you think?
She said he's creeping me out. No, no, she wouldn't say he grabbed my ass. She would say he's bothered me touched me inappropriately
I didn't like it. What are the chances she said that I would say 70%
Because Adam and then because she walks and he's like what happened What is it she said that? I would say 70%. I was going to say 80%. Yeah, of course. I put 70%.
Because Adam, look right here.
And then because she walks and he's like, what happened?
Watch Jill, what are you doing?
And then he's saying something.
And you know he would say something.
Jill runs in there.
And then what is Kamala doing coming in?
What are the other people coming in?
Jill's reaction is pretty telling.
The fact that she rushes over.
Yeah.
Well, then again, it might be loud.
She can't hear him.
She doesn't know what he's saying.
No, no, no.
I'm making no...
Look at how long this is.
That's too much of a... no... Look at how long he's been doing this.
Touch. That's too long.
By the way, this fits his legacy of creepy Joe.
Thank you.
Great. And it's a little creepy on the way you do it.
And step off making a comment.
By the way, you know who is watching that?
Do you know who is watching that?
A guy named Barron Trump.
By the way, the way a son is protective of a mother is very different than the way a
husband is protective of his wife.
It's a very different energy.
By the way, I would even say crazier energy.
If somebody messes with your mother, it's a very different energy than somebody.
I don't know why.
I can't describe it to you.
It's very different on the approach you will come in from so
19 year old son you know you got to worry about a 6 9 18 year old kid that's
sitting there saying what the hell is going on here anyway next door what did
uh Trump say when he was doing the CPAC speeches like we got a nickname for for
Joe do we want to go with sleepy Joe do we want to go with Sleepy Joe? Do we want to go with Creepy Joe? What was
the whole?
You said, I like both of them.
I like both of them.
And he made the audience weigh in on him.
Yeah, he did.
But I think they chose Sleepy.
But he likes both of them. But he likes both of them. Okay, let's go into the economy real
quick. Alright, so a couple of things going on with the economy here. So number one, the
market tanks 900 points yesterday. Okay?
And, you know, there's a story here about Wall Street Journal.
The market finally woke up to tariff reality.
Is this a buying opportunity on page 15?
By the way, those of you that are on PBD Podcast Circle, the notes we're looking at, we left
the notes in the PBD Podcast Circle.
You can go to it and go to page 15.
So markets are finally waking up to the tariff reality.
Is this a buying opportunity?
After President Trump was elected, investors got very excited about all the nice things
he promised and forgot about the stuff that would be bad for stocks.
Now they are very anxious about all the stuff that is bad for stocks and have forgotten
about the nice things.
Has the sell-off gone too far?
I took the advice.
I took the other side concerned that the threat of terrorism and immigration climbed down
from frothy markets when investors were on tax-gust delegation.
I have trouble turning bullish for the long run because I fear the new world order Trump
is ushering in won't end well for investors, but in the short term, this feels like a very
rapid sell-off that at least
undoes much of the concerns about excess in market.
So by the way, if you look at crypto, crypto took a hit.
Bitcoin took a hit.
75 or something?
Bitcoin is now back at 80.
Ethereum went to 1878.
XRP is at 209.
So that kind of took a hit.
Tom, market, when you're seeing this, how much of it is this?
Tariffs?
What are you seeing are the concerns, especially with this other story here, Tesla stock nosedives
wiping out $700 billion in gains since Trump's election. Tesla stock tumbled with shares
dropping 4.6%, a partial rebound. The Trump bump faded as stocks fell 28 percent in a
month and 32 percent since January 1st.
Adam Serhan, founder of 50 Park Investments, told Bloomberg the bet on Tesla's shares
soaring due to Musk's political involvement has not worked out thus far.
Investors who initially anticipated massive benefits from Musk's political involvement
got too excited and now cooler heads are prevailing. Thoughts Tom? So when you
look at everything from Bitcoin to the market, markets move based on facts plus
future sentiment. Facts, earnings reports, unemployment reports, the amount of
billions that have actually gone into Bitcoin in a given week, those are facts.
Then we have sentiment, the future sentiment. What do we think about the that have actually gone into Bitcoin in a given week. Those are facts.
Then we have sentiment, the future sentiment.
What do we think about the future?
Well, right now, since November,
the sentiment on consumers has been razor thin.
What do we know?
Because credit cards went up to $1.3 trillion balance
and BNPL delinquencies jumped up.
So everybody goes, oh crap,
it doesn't look like the consumer's
gonna be spending much in Q1. They're tapped out. So that was a forward sentiment people concerned
about. And then comes this waves of sentiment on the tariffs. Some of the tariffs were small.
And as I was saying, hey, remember, they're tactics, not taxes. Well, some of these tactics
are taking a while to kick in. Canada stepped up and threw some tariffs at
China. And China said, Oh, you small child and through 100%
tariffs back at Canada, showing that that's an unequal fight.
Because China is going to say, get off my lawn with your little
dog. Right? That's what China is telling Canada. So right now we
have a big shift in sentiment. So the forward sentiment PBD if the market is concerned
Right now there is less of a percent of investor dollars in mag 7 than there was five months ago
So the mag 7 remember it was so overweight everybody was buying the mag 7
Individually led by Nvidia and then also buying mag 7 ETFs that were dedicated to them that were so hot in
2023 well all of that is pulled back and there's a shift in
Sentiment and investment right now led by check this out. I looked up last night
There is now the survey of governors thinking there's a 50 50
Chance of a rate cut in May
But we don't have unemployment figures. We don't have you we don't have GDP figures
We don't have anything yet that normally would make Jerome Powell who two weeks ago said I don't think there's gonna be cuts
I think it's gonna be kind of level for a while. We gotta let this shake out. Well now the sentiment marker on
Interest rates is even 50-50 for a cut in May
Thinking that we're gonna get bad news in mid-april in five weeks when we get first quarter reports
But right now this is sentiment and the sentiment was led yesterday by one simple interview
Donald Trump saying I don't rule out a
Recession when he said those words yesterday what he's saying is and Howard Lutnick our secretary
Come ran to the microphone said whoa whoa whoa whoa I don't think there's gonna be a recession at all
I don't think after Trump said that he's trying to call you have that clip
Yeah, he's trying you have the clip of Trump saying rule out a recession. Yes, I can find that
I have Howard Lutnick right here on MSNBC talking about the odds. Did he say this after Trump's comments?
I think Lutnick was on the weekend and it was
Trump's interview on Monday. Yes, because this is Meet the Press. So this is Sunday. So he went first then Trump went. Yes.
Okay, let's so let's watch this first go for it.
Anybody who bets against Donald Trump, it's like the same people who thought Donald Trump wasn't a winner a year ago. Donald
Trump is a winner. He's going to win for the American people. That's just the way it's
going to be. There's going to be no recession in America. What there's going to be is global
tariffs are going to come down because President Trump has said, you want to charge us 100%?
We're going to charge you 100%. And you know what they say they say no, no, no, no, no, don't charge us 100% We'll bring ours down. We'll unleash America out to the world grow our economy in a way
We've never grown before you are going to see over the next two years the greatest set of growth coming from America as
Americans you saw it 1.3 trillion of new investment coming in America that speak of all those jobs. And remember each trillion of investment in America is 1% of growth GDP.
So Donald Trump is bringing growth to America.
I would never bet on recession.
No chance.
So what Lutnick is saying, the minute everybody else's blinks on tariffs, the
markets are going to shift second quarter, third quarter, you're going to see huge economic growth and for every trillion that we get of new growth, it's 1%
of GDP.
That's Lutnick, our secretary of commerce, saying it's ugly right now, but soon as the
world blinks on tariffs, the market's just gonna flip back the other way.
Did he upset you?
Did Howard upset you?
No, I think- Why do you call him Lutnick?
Is it Lutnick?
Is it like Don Lemon?
Lutnick Howard.
Don Lamar? I know you messed up, but peoplenik is Lutnik. Oh, it's like
By the way, let me know how or he's just he's just upset with you a little bit Rob Can you play the clip of the president saying recession possibly play this clip go for it?
This is with Maria Bartiroma where he talks about he doesn't like to predict things like that. Okay, let's see what he has to say
like that. Okay, let's see what he has to say. And I want to ask you about Ukraine and the blow up the other day with Zelensky. Let me stay on the economy for a moment because
there are rising worries about a slowdown. You've got the Atlanta Federal Reserve saying
we're going to have a contraction in the first quarter. Look, I know that you inherited a
mess and you said that the other night. I've all been here. But are you expecting a recession
this year? I hate to predict things like that.
There is a period of transition because what we're doing is very big.
We're bringing wealth back to America.
That's a big thing.
He's right.
And there are always periods of...
It takes a little time.
It takes a little time.
But I think it should be great for us.
I mean, I think it should be great.
It's going to be great ultimately for the farmer.
You know, don't forget, I made...
Okay, so first of all, I just want to make sure when video is playing, don't comment.
Okay, so just keep that part of mind.
So you know what I like about what he just said right there, that he's right about?
And then Adam, I'm coming to you.
So you know what's the biggest thing with negotiation? Whenever you're negotiating what Lutnick is what
Lutnick said I actually don't like and I'll say what if I'm Trump I would say
what are you doing why are you saying that because he's saying that it's a
tactic that they're eventually going to come to us.
So what that means in negotiation is that you're eventually going to what?
Give in, right?
So who wins in negotiation?
Who wins in a negotiation?
In a negotiation, leverage matters.
What else matters? Whoever is willing to walk away from leverage matters. What else matters?
Whoever is willing to walk away from the deal, what else matters?
Whoever has the most patience.
If you read the book, Art of the Deal, there were certain deals that he waited God knows
how long where he was patient until he got paid premium, okay, as a negotiator.
So I love the fact that he says, look, when you're trying to make a transition the way
we are, we're going to go through something.
Somethings are going to be nasty.
If you're trying to truly put reciprocal tariffs on people that are putting 25, 50, 70, 100%
on us, we've got to go through the pain for you to lower the prices.
That's going to be painful.
I do think the market could take a hit as you're going through that process until they give in. How long that
takes? I don't know, but I don't think he's off with what he's saying.
Is this gonna affect the, because I mean, think about it, we always talk about
Trump has his four years, guys, and he's done, right? How much of this,
especially if this starts to creep up in these two years, affects the midterms?
A lot.
A lot.
So that's his timeline.
I wrote here, you can only be as patient as the midterms.
He knows what he's playing with.
By the way, if you look at numbers with job cuts, U.S. job cuts surged 245% in February
on federal government layoffs.
Rob, if you've got a clip on that one here, 245%.
So if job cuts are up 245, a Challenger-Guerin Christmas Report revealed planned job cuts
surged 245% in February to 172,000 jobs last month.
That's the highest level since July of 2020.
You know what happened in July of 2020?
COVID.
That's July of 2020 when the economy was reeling from restrictions related to the COVID
pandemic in the highest total for February since Great Recession of 2009.
We're talking since Great Recession of 2009, that's 16 years, with federal government
layoffs under President Trump's administration driving the surge, including 62,000 announced
job cuts across seven federal agencies.
As Andrew Challenger noted noted the government has laid off
roughly 62,000 workers in the first two months, a 41,311% increase compared to a year ago.
Let me say that one more time.
A 41,311% increase compared to a year ago, which means last year only three people got
laid off if you really think about how that number works.
Okay, whatever the number, it's a small number. There's an important point there.
If you take out the government layoffs and look at the layoffs in American industry,
American retail or wherever, the layoffs are actually at par.
The economy hasn't really reacted yet.
Nothing major has happened.
But what it's looking at is the government
layoffs that came from Doge going in and, you know, changing changing agencies. Now,
those are real consumers with real paychecks that are now really not going to be working.
Some of those are early retirement. But we have to be careful when we look at it as macro,
because the economy hasn't reacted in any of the industrial sectors.
Chips isn't down because Taiwan's been invaded.
You know what I mean?
Nothing like that has happened.
These are people coming out of government jobs, but their paychecks are no longer buying
things.
Yeah.
So if all of a sudden you see things with cost of living, which is still a problem he's
been dealing with because he got because that's not on him,
that came from previous administration.
That's right, hanging in 3%.
If all of a sudden this affects unemployment,
which we'll see what the numbers are gonna look like there,
if it forces interest rates to be lowered,
if people are not making money, if the prices are high,
if the people are losing money, very, very quickly,
people will be sounding alarm on that,
and if we tap into the recession,
in order to make that drastic of a change
that they wanna make to the way we do things,
a risk of a recession should be on the table.
That's just the reality of it.
If you're trying to make that drastic of a shift,
the risk is recession. That's
the risk. I hate to say it. Adam. Well, if you just look at the markets, buckle your
seatbelt brace for impact because we're in for a rough landing. You know, we've talked
about this soft landing concept, the economy, what's going on with inflation, what's going
on with the markets. I mean, if you just look at the markets alone Word negative since Trump took office. There's an image right here. That's on the Wall Street Journal
Wall Street fears Trump will wreck the soft landing so Trump, you know the first time he took office
They were like it the economy is gonna tank. It's gonna be a recession the market boomed
I mean, here's an image right here in In the first two months that Trump has taken office,
it went up big time like a rocket.
Bitcoin went to over 100.
S&P, all time high.
Dow, all time high.
Boom.
Crash landing.
So what Trump needs to convey is, look, guys,
race for impact. Because if you're looking at the markets,
it's not going to look too pretty for a while.
Quote on quote he said,
there will be a period transition,
but what we're doing is very big.
What we have to do is build a strong country.
You can't really watch the stock market.
So what he's saying is this,
there's a difference between Wall Street and Main Street.
We all know that.
Only 50% of Americans own stock or in the stock market.
I think more should take their suggestion.
But Main Street is looking at this.
They're looking at the tariffs.
They're looking at what's going on with the markets.
Inflation is still hovering around 3%.
They've got they haven't gotten to their 2% number.
But what's the definition of a recession?
We learned this during Joe Biden administration.
It's two consecutive quarters of negative GDP.
What he's saying is like, buddy, it's been 45 days.
Don't necessarily pay attention to the markets.
Let's see where we go with this.
But if you're, like for instance,
I just sat with my mother the other day,
who's 74 years old, I just sat with my mother the other day who's
74 years old. I love you mom and
we went over her retirement planning and
Thank God she has a son that knows what she's doing because if not this woman's clueless and I love you mom, but if
You're a retiree you need to make sure that you're out of
Risky asset classes you need to have a vast percentage of your
asset allocation into bonds into cash derivatives into CDs
Don't mess with the market right now because it's gonna be a very choppy landing over the next 12 24 months I want I want to I want to say this that when you said this to remind everybody
Do you remember the whole thing about two consecutive quarters or GDP?
They changed the definition.
They changed the definition, thank you.
So I have a feeling the definition's gonna come back
this time around.
So just kind of be ready.
Convenient.
When this goes back, they're gonna be like,
no, no, no, under Biden it wasn't a recession,
but under Trump it is,
so they're gonna be playing that game back and forth.
Of course.
All I'm saying is,
it could potentially be a good time to buy, but as a person who has
one term left and is dealing with midterms, if the way Trump answered it, to say he's
okay with the possibility of a recession, that's the right approach to scare the shit
out of your competitors, other countries to say, he's okay if he goes through a recession,
he's not worried about how it's gonna look on him.
No, he was like, yeah, I don't want to put define, predict and all this stuff.
If it happens, it could happen with me.
You were making such a drastic change in our way of doing things that could possibly take
place.
Things will get worse before they get better.
I'm totally okay with that.
Okay, I'm totally okay with that.
But it's not gonna be okay to the average person
But the main person he's talking to is the other guys on the other end whether it's Mexico China
Canada he's talking to everybody else think about this if you're a Democrat right now if you're one of the Democratic politicians
It's actually a pretty good time to start
Going in on Trump. He's wrecking the economy.
These tariffs are not what he's going to be doing.
It would actually be an easy argument at this point
to bash Trump.
Now I'm advocating for this because it's almost like
we got to get the cancer out.
So we got to have to have some chemo in order to
you're advocating for what Trump is sure of care.
The reciprocal terrorists. Yes.
The shutting down the border. Like things are going to get worse before they get better.
And I'm all in on what he's doing. I'm all in on what Elon's doing. I'm all in on Doge.
But if I'm a Democrat right now and you see what they're doing. You ought to light it up.
Yeah. Fighting stances. Which by the way. They could use this economic measure. That's exactly what Rachel Maddow did yesterday.
Okay, Rob, if you have the clip. Here's Rachel Maddow celebrating the look on her face on what Rob was saying on how
the economy is doing.
Look at how happy she is.
Go for it, Rob.
Freaking genius economist.
There's two clips playing, Rob.
Yep, sorry, hang on one second.
There we go.
Go back a little.
The news today, banner headline, markets rocked by Trump show economic growth. Rob. Yeah, sorry. Hang on one second. There we go. Go back. News today. Banner headline.
Markets rocked by Trump show economic fear across Wall Street. Right under that. Next
headline. Nasdaq 100 sheds $1.1 trillion in value. Right under that. Next headline. Stocks
fall most this year with recession warnings blaring. Right under that, next headline, stocks fall most this year with recession warnings blaring.
Right under that, next headline, Tesla tumbles most since 2020.
Next headline over, billionaires at Trump's swearing in have since lost $209 billion.
The start of Trump's second term has delivered a stunning reversal for many of the billionaires
who were seated behind Trump in the Capitol rotunda while he was being
sworn in.
This is my voice at Bloomberg News today.
That's exactly what they should be doing.
If I'm them and I want to go ham on Trump, no problem.
This is a great time to do it.
No problem.
What we know about markets is this could bounce back today and it could have an all time high
by the end of the month. So you you never read into the day-to-day economic
Yeah
But with the fact that she's smiling and she's happy about it that average Americans are gonna start feeling it shows how much of a skunk
Better let her smile. Let her smile
There are technical recessions and our structural recessions a technical recession is where you look at all the numbers and yes
It's here those you can relate to a power failure, lights go off. Oh
gosh, but soon as the city gets power back on, everybody's back
to normal because the lights are back on. That's a technical
recession for and I think that's what we're looking at here.
Maybe a structural recession is like you lose the auto industry
for seven years to Japan, who kicks your ass and people are laid off and have nowhere to go
like in the 1980s or saying correct.
Those are those are structural.
Now we have a structure problem with this.
I think that this is more likely if it happens, be more like a technical recession.
And I think the bounce back is going to be as fast as we've seen here because it's driven
by sentiment. You think Trump is gonna change his tune,
or at what point would Trump maybe pivot on these tariffs
if the economy actually starts getting worse?
If the markets start getting worse?
Or is he all in on this?
I hope he does not.
I hope he does not.
Explain why.
I hope he stays.
Let me tell you why.
Because, so you know, when it comes down to Iran, everybody asks me and says, hey, do you think Iran's
going to go back to being a democracy?
I said, you guys got close in 2020.
If Trump would have had his two terms back to back, Iran would have had some kind of
a change because the pain of sanctions was so bad that the people wanted a change, and
if that meant getting rid of whoever they
had, they were willing to do it, right?
Biden comes in, boom.
Pain goes away and now they're like, no, let's just go back to our regular life.
We're going to be okay, right?
So now, tariffs.
We're probably only going to have this chance to have somebody this crazy and unpredictable
to be able to push the envelope for tariffs to get everything
on level playing field.
If he doesn't do it, it's probably never going to happen during our lifetime.
I agree.
Because think about what presidential candidate is going to come in that has the team that
he has who can push.
I hope they push as far as they can to get everyone checked into.
Look at this Shinebomb what she says.
Just listen to this phrase of Bloomberg's story.
This is the president of Mexico, look at the story.
Shinebomb says she sees Mexico avoiding reciprocal tariffs.
Wait, what?
Do you know what that means to me?
Here's what it means to me.
I don't have to change.
She sees that, that hey guess what we can go to dinner with another businessman
And I think we can get away with them paying for the entire dinner, and we not have to pay anything for it
Reciprocal right you're having a business meeting we do a conference with another guy
And we're renting an office space from a place. You're sharing half the office space
I'm sharing half the office space rent is a hundred grand a month. You're paying office space from a place, you're sharing half the office space, I'm sharing half the office space.
Rent is 100 grand a month.
You're paying 50, I'm paying 50.
She's saying, I think we can get away without having to pay the rent and only he's going
to have to pay the whole $100,000.
That's what they're saying to America.
If I'm a president reading this and saying, who the hell do you think you are?
Talking like this, what do you mean you're going to be able to avoid not having to pay
reciprocal tariffs to it?
So here, let me read this to you.
Mexican President Scheinbaum expressed confidence at Mexico City's rally on Sunday that Trump
won't impose reciprocal tariffs on Mexico starting April 2nd, stating Mexico is not
within the scope because for 30 years we have had two trade agreements establishing that
we don't have any tariffs on them and they don't have any tariffs on us.
She clarified in other words they wouldn't have to apply reciprocal tariffs because there are particularly
no levies from Mexico and the U.S. distinguishing these from Trump's separate 25% tariffs to
migration and drugs.
Paused until April 2nd, Scheinbaum turned the rally originally set to counter U.S. tariffs
into a celebration after Trump delayed the 25% tariffs on USMCA good, a move she framed
as a win saying we
cannot give up on our sovereignty and our people can't be affected by decisions made
by foreign governments.
Tom, thoughts on the story?
Well, first of all, it's on Sunday and she's at a political rally, which we have Face the
Nation over here and over in Mexico.
It's usually called Face the Bullets.
So she's out there screaming, talking about how, oh, well, we're not going
to do this because we've got these, we have these agreements where we don't have reciprocal
tariffs. She's trying to calm her own economy. Don't worry about it. He's not going to do
it. We've got these two treaties that are already in place. And she says, and by the
way, the tariffs he's talking about, those are different tariffs because he's upset about
the border and drugs. Don't worry about it. It'll be okay.
She is trying to calm her economy and her stock market, which is going to open on Monday
morning on a weekend rally.
And she is actually not saying anything.
Notice that she doesn't say anything negative about Trump.
She merely says everything is going to be okay.
That's what she's doing. And so what we have here,
she is trying to spin because her backs up against the wall.
Yeah. And Adam, go for it. Well, I think, you know,
I'm trying to get into Trump's mind because sure.
Shine bomb says her things.
Justin Trudeau or the new gentleman that's going to be taken over over there.
She's doing his thing, but Trump holds the cards as they say.
What Trump is trying to do is right the wrongs that have happened in our trade agreements
for the last 40 years.
He's generally trying to make America wealthy again.
He sees the unfair trade agreements.
I think he said at one point instead of taxing our own citizens to enrich foreign nations,
we should tax and tariff other nations to enrich our citizens.
So what Trump is doing, you remember the time when he was sitting with Chuck
Schumer you asked him about this you said this was your favorite point of
his presidency when you said it was like a real-life vlog he's like I'll take
the shutdown of the government Chuck. Okay Nancy what Trump is doing is
literally saying I'll put on the tariff Superman cape,
I'll be the bad guy,
I'll deal with the markets going down
and saying, I'll take the blame
because the rest of you mother suckers
are just gonna kick the can down the road.
I'll make the economy better,
I'll make us better again,
I'll make us wealthy again
because the rest of you won't do it,
so we gotta do the tariffs now.
Yeah, most people cannot handle what they can handle, the amount of pain Trump can handle.
I will tell you this, if I'm Trump, and if anybody from Trump's camp watches this, you
guys like charts, let me give you one of the best charts to show for.
Go pull up military expenditure on Mexico and Canada versus ours.
We spend 3.4% of our taxpayers' money on military to provide safety of where we are, right?
And who's our neighbors?
Mexico and Canada.
Great.
Canada spends 1.1%, Mexico spends 0.7%.
Point seven is 2.7 less than we do on our military expenditure.
That 2.7 should be paid as a form of a tariff to the U.S.
We're providing protection for you.
Why don't you go spend that money out of the money that you make? You ought to do that. Why should I pay for protection?
No, nobody wants to mess with Mexico because you're my neighbor. I'm not okay with that.
I think there's so many ways they can work this Mexico and Canada relationship, but I think that chart
needs to be given to them for them to see it. Okay, next story to get into is Trump sends a letter to Iran on nuclear program, make
a deal or face US militarily.
Rob, if you got this clip here, this is the negotiation with Iran on the nuclear program.
Here's Trump.
Go for it, Rob.
I hope that Iran, and I've written him a letter saying, I hope you're going to negotiate
because if we have to go in militarily, it's
going to be a terrible thing for them.
You wrote a letter to the Khomeini, believe?
Yes.
When did you send the letter?
Yesterday.
And you said you'd better negotiate, or we want you to negotiate?
No, I didn't say you'd better.
I said, I hope you're going to negotiate, because it's going to be a lot better for Iran.
And I think they want to get that letter.
The other alternative is we have to do something
because you can't let them have a nuclear weapon.
Adam.
So there was a great article in the Wall Street Journal,
if I can pull it up real quick, about,
they called it, Iran is weak, will Trump be strong?
Tehran will try to delay and humor Trump like other presidents and
Basically what they do is they lay out the you talked about leverage and negotiations
What leverage does Iran have at this point? What leverage do they have China?
They have China, but how long is China gonna back them up?
I don't know is that what's gonna happen there. So it said essentially the article lays out the fact that
Iran is in no position to dictate terms with the United States. Their misery index,
you said in 2020 they had a chance to basically reverse course. This is the first time since 1979
that they've been in a position of absolute weakness. Israel has taken out all their proxies, Hamas,
Hezbollah, they're dealing with the Houthis, you see what's going on in Syria, Lebanon is going
through a restructuring right now. Their misery index is one of the worst in the world. The people
of Iran are amazingly just able people, but they're basically being subjugated by this theocratic regime
Trump is putting maximum pressure on Iran right now he knows this is the time
because what is Trump's fear what is the rest of the Middle East fear including
Saudi including UAE Iran getting a nuclear weapon that's the one thing
they're like no no no no no no no no no no. So Obama appeased them,
Jimmy Carter appeased them, it was only Republicans who are basically saying no no Iran, we're not
playing this game. So Trump recognizes that he has two, maybe to four years to say we're not messing
with you. What do you think this letter said? Hey let's be friends, let's be nice. Basically he said
don't make us do what we're willing to do. You better
deliver on the threats though. That's I was just gonna say he
better. There's been too many threats lately of if you don't
do this, we're gonna do this. There's gotta be some delivery
on them. Yeah. And so and Adam, you nailed it. He's preventing
them from getting nuclear weapons. I mean, it doesn't
help the fact that the Biden administration with Anthony
Blinken unfroze. What was it Tom?
Six billion six billion dollars to help them. It's it's crucial because they're they they have been enriching
Uranium and they're getting it's Chris Pat. You know what they're doing
They're getting it close to weapons grade levels once and who's to say where they're at. Where are they in that process?
But I'm like if you're already there then Adam because I personally think that they're if they're this worried and he's talking about it like this, if they're not very, very close, they probably already have something that they could definitely use to attack.
That's that's the scary part.
Well, the the issue here is we've never under Biden, we were never willing to have anything that we did except by
hitting
Their proxies right? Yes, like their proxies were camped out in Syria bonk, right?
Okay, if your proxies are camped out with the Hezbollah in Syria
We're you know, we're gonna drop cruises on you and we did yes and we did what he's talking about
You better be ready for it. Now the cruises fly into their airspace and there's five locations that are supposed to lead the
research labs and we know exactly where they are. And basically that would seriously interrupt
their nuclear program. Now, is he willing to do that? What we were just talking about,
you got to be willing to make good on the threat. Yeah, because what he's talking about,
if we send, you know, the high impact cruise missiles over there
and we hit those five locations, it says, I told you not to make nukes.
You're up in your bedroom making newt.
Your dad and I told you don't do that.
And we then we messed the place up.
Yeah.
We have to be willing to do that.
And if we're not willing to do that, it's just an idle threat because that if you if
you read all the CIA threat assessments and stuff those five locations is what?
Iran wants to protect here's another clip from Lee build it. Here's another clip go for drop
Now well there are two ways Iran can be handled militarily or you make a deal I
Would prefer to make a deal because I'm not looking to hurt Iran. They're great people
I know so many Iran Iranians from this country. Iranian leader rejects Trump's push for nuclear talk. tough deal. While that's being said, here's a story from The Hill.
Iranian leader rejects Trump's push for nuclear talk.
Ayatollah Khamenei rebuffed Trump's call for nuclear talks, stating on Saturday, some
coercive governments insist on negotiations such as, such negotiations aren't aimed at
solving issues.
They are aimed to exert their dominance and impose what they want.
He argued that talks are a tool to impose new demands, adding Iran will definitely not
fulfill these new demands, especially on defense and military limits.
And obviously that's a, we'll see how that's going to be reacting towards it, but Vinny,
I think you want to say something.
I don't know, man, because now I can see why you guys are talking about the left and stuff
for them to argue about.
If you think of a lot of stuff that we were promised and that people were told, especially
on the other side, you can see Tom, now it's like, now all of a sudden, recession might
be on the horizon.
All right, we're talking about, he was talking about no wars.
This looks like, because after him saying this, it looks like the war stuff is happening.
We were promised JFK, we were promised all the Epstein lists. It's almost like in all three of these fronts, everything that we
were told and that we were promised, it's all kind of coming to a point where now the
left I think can have that thing to fight for and the other side could be like, hey
man, what, all this stuff that you said that was going to happen, it seems as if all of
it is starting to turn the other way.
Yeah, I mean one of the things is yesterday Chris texted me saying,
Hey Tucker and I did a podcast together and they're on the podcast.
One of the topics that comes up is why the JFK files hasn't been released.
And Chris asks Tucker the question, like who is holding this up?
And Tucker doesn't want to drop the name.
And he finally drops the name, Rob, if you
can play this clip and this has to do for the community of people that want to know
what's going on with Epstein, that want to know what's going on with JFK, all those promises.
That's this clip.
Go for it, Rob.
Okay, so I've always thought that and then in January, you know, there was a scramble
over who's going to get what jobs in the new administration. And at one point, there was someone who was being discussed for a job in the Intel world,
and a member of the SSCI, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and Intel Committee,
went to the people making the decision and said, you cannot hire this person because
this person will be certain to push for the release of the JFK files. So this is in 2025, less than two months ago, and you have a sitting member of the United
States Senate whose main goal is to keep those files secret.
And then you have to ask yourself, what is that?
Exactly.
Why?
Why?
Why?
Were they even alive? Of course, no one was alive.
I was 62 years ago.
And by the way, the institution,
no one can even tell you who the CIA director was.
Do you remember the name of the CIA director?
John McComb, I think, 1963.
But that person has completely lost his history
except a specialist.
And the CIA has already been through 50 years ago,
the church committee hearings, 1975,
where we sort of know that they're assassinating people, dosing people with acid, all this stuff.
It's like, the CIA has already been discredited.
So if you're telling me that six weeks ago, a member of the United States Senate was trying
to keep someone out of a job in order to keep these files secret, that is to protect the
CIA, I don't believe that for a second.
So wait a minute.
Here's the part I don't understand. So who second. So wait a minute. Here's the part. I don't lose that person exerted pressure, but you are
Uniquely qualified to get this answer because one of us can call the president of the United States right now and ask him
And the other one is me
Why don't you know?
That's a great question. It's the only kind I asked so what I what I brought to it was the knowledge that a member of the Senate Intel Committee,
I'm not guessing, called over and said, you cannot appoint this person.
So why don't you expose that person first of all, so we can start chasing after him.
Tom Cotton of Arkansas.
Boom!
Tom Cotton?
Yes, correct.
And did you ask him?
I haven't.
No, I haven't asked him.
What the hell is going on with you?
I'd like to.
And kind of makes people suspicious of you, by the way. Go ahead. What the hell is going on with you? I'd like to, and...
Kind of makes people suspicious of you, by the way.
Go ahead.
Because if you know that Tom Cotton said, you can't pick this person because...
That is correct.
And then you didn't go to him and find out why?
Well, I need to sit down with him.
I'm not sure that he'll do an interview with me.
With you?
I'm waiting...
You are like the spirit animal of that administration.
No, no, no. But it's a fair question. It's a totally fair question. And the answer is,
I hadn't thought to do that. And there's a lot going on. And I've been-
Impossor right there. And again, and this is going for all the-
Call up Tom Cotton so we know Tom Cotton. Tom Cotton's got some explaining to do. Remember Lucy?
Yeah, by the way, and I've been a fan of Tom Cotton,
just like Josh Hawley, like all these guys,
they speaking up, they're talking for us.
But this is the problem when it comes to people like me
that have been supporting this movement for almost,
over eight and a half, almost nine years,
we're going on it, that we were made promises, okay?
We were made promises, and this is,
and I know the last podcast we had
where Andrew Tate was like,
yeah, well, this is just what they,
but no, no, no, no, it's not about that.
This is about, I mean, Epstein number one,
but JFK too.
Why is Tom Kind, if this is true, holding it back?
What, everybody that was involved is dead.
Are they, who are you protecting?
Because at the end of it, if you're holding it back, you don't want me, the American taxpayer, to know as a veteran
too, what happened? Who murdered our sitting president? Because 9-11 was one of the worst,
I think, murdering the sitting president and all the people involved. They're protecting
somebody or a group that's still around right now. Same thing with Epstein. And this is
the type of crap that pisses me the hell off because we were made promises.
Now we're just sitting.
I just posted another tweet today, Pat.
We're on day 11 of business days.
I'm not counting the weekends because Tom, you know, let me know.
Just count the Mondays through Fridays.
It's day 11 and counting.
We were promised Epstein.
We were promised JFK.
We were promised 9-11 and nothing.
Haven't heard anything.
I think Cash arrested two people
that were doing some nefarious stuff.
What is the deal?
What's happening?
Who are they protecting?
That's my question.
Tom.
I'm curious about Tom Cotton running so quick
to the microphone you see three hours ago
and he put a very comprehensive tweet out.
It said, I did not talk to the president.
I did not release the files.
I did not involve anybody.
It was a fairly long statement he just put out.
This is false.
I have no problem releasing the JFK files,
had tech girls and asked me, I would have told him.
He has texted me multiple times in recent weeks so he knows how to reach me the white again
release it why what are you holding back what do you mean I would have explained
that I've never spoken to President Trump or his associates or administration
officials about the files comma never objective to the appointment of any
person because of the files comma and have complete faith that Tulsi Gabbard
John Ratcliffe Pam Bondi cash Patel and other officials will release the appointment of any person because of the files, comma, and have complete faith that Tulsi Gabbard,
John Ratcliffe, Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, and other officials will release the files as appropriate
in accordance with President Trump's directive. And here's my thing Tom, what he's going to get
with all them and appropriate in accordance. No, no, what are you holding back? And I'm being
genuine Tom, I'm very, very curious
right now. It's been how many years? Why? What are we waiting for?
Well, let me just take a complete different angle here. What's Tucker's background? Who
was Tucker's father? Was it any CIA?
Tucker's father has a very interesting background. He was involved. Whether it's CIA or whatever he did, he was involved whether it's CI or whatever. He did he was in that confirmed
I you can Richard
That's a
Journalist of lobbyist voice of America from 66 to 91
Carl said can you control fCIA? Can you control fCIA to see anything comes up? No, not Patricia purchase CIA
Association super name was Dick
Carlson? Strong name. Yeah. So, you know, Voice of America at the time was also known
as a, you know, the C.I.E. had a lot of different methods of getting information. Anyways, if there is a way, because right now, is Tucker good with Trump?
At this point, yes.
OK.
If Tucker has to choose between Massey and Trump, who does he choose?
If he's smart, he picks Trump.
If Tucker has to choose between supporting AIPAC that comes with Trump and if you don't support
AIPAC, then you lose Trump, what does he choose?
Wow, that's a good one.
At this point, why would you want to go against Trump?
That wasn't the question I asked.
I don't think he's pro AIPAC and pro-
Okay.
He had Massey on.
It was actually a very good interview.
He should be very careful with AIPAC.
So here's all I'm doing. Here's all I'm saying with regards to Tucker. Does Trump's administration
right now need someone to blame for the way they handle JFK files and Epstein and all
that stuff?
Yes.
Is Tom Cotton good with Trump?
I believe so.
I wouldn't see any, nothing that would say other.
Everything we've ever spoken about with Tom Cotton has been positive, has been good.
So I don't know, I don't know if there is something here where the possibility of needing
in out with somebody. I don't know,
I'm just saying, like if you needed somebody to say, hey, we have to figure out where to
put this on someone, we have fumbled, we have kind of mishandled the way we promised that
we were going to release and there's an intel.
We had no idea this many people were interested in JFK files.
We had no idea this many people were interested in what's going on with Epstein. Oh my God, we thought it
was just something you would say from stage and then people would forget about it after
election. Holy shit. No, there's really a big community of people that really want this.
I don't know. That's one. And that me seeing that they use cotton as a person to blame,
I'm at 10% to 15% there.
But it's an option.
But it's an option, right?
And the other option is, could it have been something where the conversation is, say you
and I talk, we're about to hire somebody and you don't like that person, and you say, I
don't like that person, and all of a sudden Adam's in the room, Adam tells someone, someone
tells another competitor and they say, let me tell you, the reason why that person didn't end up getting a job
at Vaghtim is because of Vinny.
And he's like, what are you talking about?
Could it have been that kind of a misunderstanding that it was leaked to Tucker?
It could have been.
Because when Chris says, how come you haven't asked him, Tucker was kind of like, well,
I don't know, maybe I ought to talk, and Cotton's coming
out talking about it.
I don't know.
There's many things, many angles to you with this one.
Do you think, honestly, in this four years, we're going to get anything about JFK, and
anything about FCN, and anything about 9-11?
And I'm not talking about that little stupid thing where they have influencers, look at
my fake stupid, I'm going to get anything little stupid thing where they have influencers, look at my fake
stupid—
Let me ask you this.
Are we going to get anything?
Let me ask you this.
Do you think for RFK Jr., is it important that that information of what happened to
his father and his uncle be public, or do you think he would be happy that if just he
knew about it then the world never found out?
R.F.
J.P.
I think as a relative, especially in that system, he'd want to know.
I would take the private over anything.
E.Y.
Do you think somebody from Trump's camp could sell RFK for saying, you'd be the one to know
the truth will show to you, but you can't ever tell anybody?
R.F.
J.P.
Probably.
E.Y.
You think he'd be okay with that, or you think he would want the world to know what happened there?
I think he's a crusader.
I think RFK Jr. feels to me like a true crusader.
Which means what?
I don't think he could be bought like that.
No, what I'm saying is, do you think to him it's important that only he finds out for
his own reasoning to be resolved or do you think he wants the world to find out?
I think he wants the world to find out.
Okay, so if he wants the world to find out, then I think the the Kennedy stuff's gonna come out because he's got a heavy-duty job
Position so that has to come out the Epstein stuff. I
Don't know if the Epstein stuff's gonna come out the way you're thinking. I agree
well, why is he why is he calling out Tom Cotton for a very specific reason Tom is the
Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. It's a pretty
high-up position. So I think he enlisted in the Army after 9-11. I think you want
to say he's maybe in his early 40s. He's a pretty stoic, straightforward guy. If
you've ever heard him speak. This is the first time I've heard anything bad about
Cotton. Yeah, he's not sort of like bombastic and out there like a Josh
Hawley. And I like Hawley. Yeah, similar and I like Holly. Yeah. Yeah, I love so Tom cotton very stoked
By the way, he does interviews on meet the press on MSNBC all the time pushing back against Kristen Welker
He'll get out there. So
I'm gonna take Tom cotton at his word that he actually has been communicating with Tucker Tucker knows how to stir the pot a little bit
I've never heard Tom's cotton's name in
pot a little bit. I've never heard Tom's cotton's name in relation to these types of things, whether it's 9-11, whether it's the Epstein, whether it's RFK, whether it's JFK, whatever
it is. What I know about Tom Cotton, he's been a staunch advocate for Trump. Super hawkish
on China. I think he wrote a book called Seven Things You Can't Say About China, something
to that effect. He's all about banning TikTok.
He wants China out of our policies very hawkish on the border very hawkish on foreign policy.
Tom Cotton.
Exactly.
So this is the first time I'm hearing that there's anything contingent on this.
But why is he doing?
Why is Tucker calling him out?
Because Tom Cotton is the head of the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
That's why.
And Tucker's fed up. I mean, I'm with Tucker though.
Because Tucker, I don't think Tucker just made this out of sitting there.
Vinny hasn't slept in weeks, guys.
What I'm saying is, I don't think Tucker made that out of...
Tucker's like, listen, this is a fact.
I'm speaking with the person that was supposed to get the job to give us what we want.
But he's been held back because of Tom Conn. That's why it it's such a weird thing because it's like what you don't just make
that up these are i think facts that Tucker knows that Chris pushed them and I'm happy Chris did it
and that's why he was like well if you know this and you know this and he was Tom Kahn of Arkansas
well can boom consider this face you know how they're rewriting maybe the definition of recession
You know how they're rewriting maybe the definition of recession. Maybe they're rewriting the definition of day one.
Maybe day one is day 100.
Let me say this to you.
So Rob, you have the Annapalina clip.
Her calling it disturbing, calls out the DOJ silence, urges Bondi to release the full Epstein
files.
This is Annapalina Luna calling out the DO release the full Epstein files. This is Ana Paulina Luna calling out
the DOJ silence on Epstein.
Go for it Rob.
What's going on with the Epstein files, congresswoman?
Well, you know, I'm really actually happy
that you asked that question.
So I was tasked with the task force on declassification
to look forward and investigate the files
once they are released
from the attorney general's office.
Now, I want to be clear about something.
What we found in the last couple of weeks and what's definitely apparent is there's
absolutely a war taking place in the intelligence agencies, right?
We saw the CIA was reporting that they're worried about their own people leaking secrets
to foreign countries.
And we were also notified last week that there was a whistleblower that came forward stating
that there was evidence being destroyed at the FBI.
As soon as the FBI found out President Trump won the election, they started their deep
state nonsense.
And so I have full faith in Cash Patel and AG Bondi to deliver those files, but I want
to be very clear about something.
The American people want the truth.
We don't want redactions.
And although we are same team, I'm going to continue to press for that transparency
because that is exactly what the American people asked for when they elected President
Trump.
Good for her, by the way.
Check this out.
Okay, the story continues in different places.
Frustrations mount at Attorney General Bondi and Cash Patel as the Justice Department faces
backlash over the botched Epstein files
release.
People are asking on social, we still haven't gotten the Epstein files.
Where are the files?
JFK, MLK.
Bondi told Fox News on Sean Hannity on Monday that Patel delivered a truckload of evidence
on Friday at 8 a.m. admitting she was misled initially in promising more release after
redactions amid a truckload of documents.
Sunday, March 9th was a very special day
because it marked the deadline for DNI,
the top US intelligence overseer, and Bondi
to submit plans for releasing files
on RFK and Martin Luther King assassinations
as ordered by President Trump in January,
who said present, present a plan
for their full and complete release within 45 days and I
was March 9th. Vinny. I'm just listen I I have I these are one of those things
Pat that this is the hill that I'll die on because I'm sick and tired of them
keep pushing it and keep walking it back I remember the video I remember Glenn
Beck sitting next to us going oh I know this and this is gonna happen and cash
Patel saying on day one so now since we are where we are right now, and they're holding that back
It leads us to believe everything that we believe to be true is true
They're not releasing Epstein list because the people that were there are still here, and they're still in power, okay?
It's not Trump
It's not these people it's all the people that are around him, all these people that are embedded in government, that have like all these allegedly Reid Hoffman and all these people that have been anti-Trump and putting all this money in to get Trump.
Casper telling his own words.
Day one, what happened?
I'm curious, I wanted to ask them, what happened?
You promised us day one, we've been sitting here with our freaking hands folded like a bunch of idiots,
you're making us look stupid because the other side's like,
okay, see we told you, Trump is involved, or this
is involved, or that's involved.
It's just bullshit.
It drives me freaking crazy because we were lied to and now we look like idiots.
What's this, Rob?
This is a montage of Cash Patel talking about what he would do on day one.
Go for it.
Well, they have seen Black Book on day one.
On day one? Roll out the Black Book.
So will you work with me on this issue so we know who worked with Jeffrey Epstein in
building these sex trafficking rings?
Absolutely, Senator.
Child sex trafficking has no place in the United States of America, and I will do everything,
if confirmed as FBI director, to make sure the American public knows the full weight
of what happened in the past.
And what happened?
Who talked, think about it, all this talk, now you're the head of the FBI, who goes into
your office and goes, oh, by the way, everything that you were saying, shut up.
He hasn't made, I haven't heard, have you heard him speak since?
Have you heard anybody, have you heard, have you heard a peep from Cash Patel?
Have you heard a peep of any of these people that promised us, Pat?
That drives me insane.
I know they're busy, I know they're doing the job, I know they can't do interviews,
I know they can't do podcasts, but where are you at?
Where are we? Day one.
Let me ask you a question, Tom, and this goes to the audience.
I'm curious, Rob, if you want to run a poll or just kind of ask the question
What were the top three issues of why you supported Trump?
Top three issues not like the hill to die on like I voted for this
If you were to say one is this two is this three is this what was it for you?
You have a go for it if you got it. The border, for sure.
Wokeness, for sure.
And then I would say, just having moral clarity
and making, literally making America great again
and bringing back patriotism to our country.
What was yours, Tom?
Mine was absolutely, by the way, I used to say it
when Amy and I would do our polling
things, I would say, hey, look, I don't have an opinion on the poll, but I have strong
opinions about Tom the voter.
I was all about all the wokeness that had infected companies, that had affected schools,
potentially infect my daughter and her admissions, and the border number one.
And I had those right together.
So that's two.
What's three?
And there wasn't a number three.
The economy was like number four and a half for me. So you don two, what's three? And there wasn't a number three. The economy was like number
four and a half for me. So you don't have a three. No, because those were so intense, you know what
I'm saying? Okay, got it. So woke and the border. Crazy liberalism was my one and two. Vinny?
My number one, and the border is a horrible situation, I wanted to know, because we can't
figure out where
we are right now till we know how the hell we got here. Okay plain and simple.
Epstein lies. Okay I don't know about the rest of you guys but JFK murdering a
sitting president. What's your three? My third one? DEI, BLM. So number one was what? All the
JFK, 9-11, all the tragedies of this country. So that's your number one.
That's my number one.
Number one was secrets.
All the secrets I wanted to do,
we were promised.
Two, border, border security.
And three?
Three, DEI, BLM, all that racist bullshit.
So by the way guys, if you're watching this,
can you put it in the PBD podcast circle if you got it?
I know we have guys that are commenting,
Thomas DeVito commented on Biden touching Melania's back,
Jarrah Hitchens has commented there as well.
Can you guys comment here on what your three were?
I'm curious in the circle, if you haven't downloaded it yet,
go download the app, join the PBD Podcast circle.
I'm gonna be, we're involved here communication-wise.
So when you think about this,
this is where I'm going with this.
Where I'm going with this is,
if I am Trump's camp, and if we ever ran the White House,
and if we were ever presidents, you know what division of ours would be the biggest one?
We would have a team of 50 business analysts, data analysts.
I mean, we would be, look, our biggest budget, I would pay myself to have a lot of data analysts,
right?
And I would ask myself, how many people are like Vinnie?
Tom, what percentage of people do you think exactly what I figured it was?
Look at that.
It's only 10% of people that are like you, Vinnie.
That's the part.
It's only 10%.
Look at that.
Look at border, woke, economy. It's only 10% look at that look at board 28% is the economy
29% is the woke and border is 33. Okay, so when you look at some that's how many voters 2300 voters
Okay, and that's our audience that we're talking about
Yeah, so that's qualified audience that we're polling this because they wanted this right?
So you're looking at where the numbers are at, where people are at.
Okay, so if that's the case,
and no one has ever been able to become president
and hit 100% of all the issues,
if they fumble this one, they're like,
well, we missed this one, we didn't hit it.
They're gonna lose a guy like you, okay, when that happens,
but they gotta see what's more important to them today.
Can you go back to the one that you had, Rob, by the way?
Can you go back to the poll that you just had?
Oh, I just ended the poll.
But I can give you the results.
So in total, securing the border 33%.
That's in first place.
Second place battling the woke agenda at 28%.
In third place, making the economy great again, 27%.
And in 10%, the training.
Okay, so let's score each one of them so far in the first, whatever, how long?
So January 20th, February 20th, it's November 10th, March 10th, let's just say we're at
40, 50, however many days we got, right?
How would you score the JFK Epstein files being dropped, zero to 10?
I think it's zero.
I think it's incomplete right now, right?
Right.
You're never going to see it.
But they said on day one.
Yeah.
Because you say day one, it's zero.
Redefining the word.
No problem.
Number two, how would you score the economy?
Not great right now.
I give it a five, but I'm optimistic about how it's playing out.
I give it a seven because I understand when you want to change something around, if you
want to change a comp plan in a company to teach a new habit, it takes 90 days. If you want to do it to a country, imagine how long that takes. It's going to
take a minute. So, border. How are we doing with the border?
I mean, I think it's doing great. 9 out of 10?
Yeah, I agree. It's a 9 out of 10.
But that was his number one priority. Sure. How do you score the woke, the craziness?
Oh, that's also being dismantled. That's the point. So what we're saying is, you can't, like a guy has 32 points, nine rebounds, one
assist, four turnovers, and all we're talking about is this guy had no blocks and no steals.
Which, by the way, to a defensive coach, guess what's the most important? You guys, you didn't
play defense. You had no blocks, you had no no steals none of this stuff, right? So I in my eyes they're like well, listen, maybe we can't cherish that
Don't get me wrong for a guy like me. I want to know exactly what happened with Epstein
I want to know exactly what happened with that list. I want to know exactly what happened with you know, John F
Kennedy MLK
I want to know exactly what happened there but for whatever reason Vinny
Every time somebody that becomes the president claims
they're going to release that, every single time, I want to know who is that person like
you said earlier.
What does that meeting look like for them to be able to say, here's, let me role play
one for you and tell me if this makes sense.
You're the president.
I'm that guy that nobody knows about.
President Trump, I think it's time for that meeting.
You know, there are things that happen behind closed doors to run the biggest country in
the world that people can never know about.
If they did, it would disrupt the entire nation.
Do you understand that?
I think I do. Okay, there are certain things that we've done in the history of our country for
us to deal with evil in ways that we have to hold them accountable. You know
what is one of the ways? Bribery. We have intel on certain people that if we leak
that to the public, if we leak that to the public, we lose that leverage that we
have with them and we can't and some of them are your allies
Let me tell you we have here here bone bone bone bone. Those people. These are your guys
If you release it all we have to release all of this to the public some of those guys are your friends
What do you want to do? Well, they're not gonna be happy with me
So I so how about we set this aside as an issue for now, and we have a method on how to release
it so you don't lose credibility, but let's move on from this topic.
Here's what we're going to be doing.
You're going to hear a guy say this, you're going to hear a guy say that, you want to
be able to say something like this, and then we're moving on.
Make sense?
A meeting like that takes place to say, you have a job that's very complex and complicated,
we're not going gonna talk about this stuff
because we have leverage over certain people.
You don't think America has worked with other agencies,
Mossad, MI6, all these.
Yeah, I mean, for me to believe that Mossad is innocent
and CIA is innocent and MI6 is innocent,
the stuff that these guys have on people,
they work day and night.
You think J. Edgar Hoover's documentary on why he never dropped anything on the mob?
The mob doesn't exist.
There is no such thing as organized crime.
Oh really?
Why is that?
Because they know you were a cross dresser behind closed doors.
You don't want that to be leaked.
Well, I just think it's a great exercise of what you did in polling our audience because
I think our audience is very much so.
Who voted for Trump?
I think it is telling that only 10% wanted what Vinny wants.
I understand why Vinny is so passionate about this, but this goes on cash.
Trump didn't get out there and basically promote the fact that he's going to do all this.
He didn't campaign on this.
This was cash's hill to die on. So Vinnie needs to hold cash
accountable. By the way, I've been hearing this woman's name Anna Paulina Luna. Yes, for months.
This is the first time I've seen her. I get it now. Why people want to keep continue talking about
her. Because you know, they say that DC is Hollywood for ugly people. Well, not for
her. I think she's a great person to basically be the
representative of the House Oversight Committee Task Force
for declassification. Talk about making America great again. Good
for her. By the way, there's a report out there that says that
Republican women are more attractive than Democrat women.
I've been saying that.
I mean, if you look at Kristi Noem, if you look at Pam Bond, if you look at Laura Trump,
if you look at our girl, Tulsi, she's doing making Miami great again.
If you look at panhandle, she's in this area.
If you look at Lauren Boeber, if you look at Ivanka and you look at Melania Wow, Anna Polly Republicans are making women great again
Realize he is single. I think she's looking for a wife. She is married though. She married listen
I'm not trying to cool down a little more. I'll see that little Lord to see how she is married. Okay, okay
Let's find I think we're in her district right now. Hang on one second. Let's see if she's married
Wait a minute Don't worry about I think we're in her district right now. You got one second. Let's see if she's married Is she married or no, okay, she's married let's move on she's a messianic Jewish Christian and we can get the best of both worlds
You're absolutely right. Look at what the Democrats have been married. They got Elizabeth Warren. How did you miss that?
They got Maxine Waters. They got Nancy Pelosi. They got Hillary Clinton. The best they got is AOC.
I'll take a Republican check any day. But my two things is this. Don't make a promise
if you're not going to keep it. I knew he was going to come into the border. But those three
issues man, I didn't see it in that light, but I'm talking about like 9-11. If there's six pages or
nine pages, oh man, the implications are... And then that's why they call people like us crazies. Oh you guys have all these theories
No, no, we have these theories because you guys are lying and you're keeping it Vinny. I like you man, but you're crazy
You got a dark
Doesn't it make you believe that there is a shadow government?
It makes you believe that there is the shadow government underneath and remember Tucker we went up to Maine the mosquito capital of Earth
Apparently remember we're up there. Oh my gosh. Well, we were up there in the same cabin in there
Great conversation with him great dinner and he made some comments to us at dinner that he's also repeated
Since then on other people's podcasts that he says, you know, Congress is scared to
death. You talk to the average congressperson, they are scared
to death of what the intelligence communities
Yep, absolutely scared to death that when something comes up,
the invisible hand reaches out, they're trying to call a shot
and the shot gets pulled back. And this is Tucker who would
know?
Well, your good friend Chuck Schumer said if you mess with the intelligence community, they got six ways a Sunday to get back to
you. If Chuck Schumer is my good friend, I'm taking him hunting and I'm gonna take
Cheney. Dick Cheney. Dick Carlson. Here's a Fox News story going off of Thomas Massey, American sympathies for Israel fall to record low numbers.
Paul finds.
Adam, I hope you're ready for this.
Here we go.
Alright, so Gallup poll from February 3rd to 16th, 2025 reveals American sympathies
for Israel in an Israel Hamas war has dropped to a record low 46%, down from 51% in 2024.
With the question of the Middle East situation, are your sympathies more with Israelis or
more with the Palestinians, showing the polls support for Israel in 25 years of annual polling
by Gallup, a well-known research organization.
Support for Palestinians has risen to 33%, a 6% increase from 2024, the highest in over two decades, while a partisan divide
shows 83% of Republicans view Israel very mostly favorable compared to 48% of independents
and 33% of Democrats, amid a temporary ceasefire and hostage exchange between Israel and Hamas,
the Palestinian militant group controlling Gaza."
Adam, why do you think this is?
American sympathies for Israelis fall to record low.
You know, this is why you can't necessarily look at the headlines.
Record low from 51 down to 46.
Okay, they lost five points.
Great.
But I'll ask you a question.
Would you rather be liked or feared?
Would you rather be liked or respected?
I would argue that I'd rather be feared and respected if I'm Israel
Now I'm American, but I'm Jewish and I'm definitely pro-israel
I feel like they've tried to be liked
For a little too long at this point. Do you see what's going on with Christians in Syria?
Do you see what's going on with Islamic jihadism in Sudan? Do you see what's going on with Islamic jihadism in Sudan? Do you see
what's going on with Boko Haram? Do you see what's going on with Hezbollah?
You're not dealing with a typical just, you know, bully. These are people that are
willing to die for a cause and take out you, your family, your kids, your entire community for
what they believe in.
You know, you say that you respect the enemy.
You have to respect the fact that these jihadists want to kill you.
So it's killer be killed.
It's eat or be eaten.
So if Israel's poll numbers are a little low in America, especially heads
up guys within the Democratic Party, then that's okay. Second point to my Jewish friends
in America who won't wake up and realize the Democratic Party is no longer your friend. And you're still tikkun olam, which trying to make peace in the world
within the Democratic Party time to wake up and realize Trump is the best
president, best president, best friend to Israel that maybe we've ever had.
Trump is very clear.
He's on the side of our ally Israel, not the
terrorists. It's pretty damn simple. Now whether his
promises or threats are actually fulfilled, we'll still see. But
I'm totally okay with not being as liked as before, because
we're killing terrorists that are trying to kill us, Tom. So
there's a couple things here that I think create lies or create, you know, spurious data.
This is a broad poll of Americans done by Gallup, broad poll. And in broad polls, you have a lot of
perceptions that are in the polls. And you have a lot of the informed that are in the polls. And you
have the very informed. So look at that the very informed, the informed, and then those you have a lot of the informed that are in the polls and you have the very informed. So look at that the very informed, the informed and then those
that have a perception they're not fully informed. And with the mainstream media
and what's been going on on college campuses and everything in America with
this pro-Palestinian bent that does not represent broad America but does show up
as broad media from the MSM.
Guess what you get.
You get a movement and to Adam pointed something out in the
numbers.
Absolutely correct.
This is only a move from 51 to 46.
This is not a cataclysmic market crash.
This is nothing and I think what we have here is a broad
poll shows that the cumulative effect of the Palestinian coverage and our
mainstream media has in fact moved the polls.
Because how could any informed person take a look at the condition of the hostages that
came back and look at these emaciated, abused people and tell me that you're sympathetic
to the captors?
The answer is you wouldn't be.
How can you be?
And so that's kind of the way I see this here.
You know, this is a small movement making a big headline.
There, like this.
Look at this and tell me,
how are you not sympathetic to these men who were in captive
and look how they were treated and look at the results.
This is horrible.
Vinny.
Yeah, well, I think,
because it's what was the thing was the decline. This is horrible. Vinny. Yeah, well, I think because it's what was the the thing was the
decline. What was it, Tom? The the decline of the sympathy
meaning like basically what feeling sorry and I think I
think sympathetic sympathetic towards it. Why me do I think
there's a bunch of there's a couple of factors and you have
to start with just from the war itself. I mean, October 7, they
still and I saw some of the fighting. I saw some in their fighting I saw some in their parliament I don't know what their government structure is like
but they were going at BB they were yelling at them about security and stuff like that
about October 7th which we still remember what was his name do you remember that guy's name
John Kirby when they were like what happened now's not the time how we're over a year still no
answers of how that could that day could have happened. That's one thing.
But I think the sympathy is like, okay, like I think the high civilian casualty of that war, of the ongoing war,
I think people, you have to feel like people are still kind of thrown back at the way that it went.
And I get, I understand guys, Hamas is there, Hamas are terrorists.
I think a lot
of Americans are like guys we're there are allies they could have gone about
that war a little bit different you know wiping everything out flattening Gaza I
don't think is sitting in the in Americans it doesn't sit well with
Americans because that's the main that I think that's one of the main things is
like the way that they could have done it could have been a little bit more strategic instead of just wiping out.
I hear you.
Well, I'm just giving an answer why I would be upset if I was if I was BB Net and Yahoo, by the way, who's approval runners are going up. If I was in his war cabinet, I would say, listen, man, slow down. Maybe you're going a little too hard. Yes.
cabinet, I would say, Listen, man, slow down, maybe you're going a little too hard. Yes. And then he would say, give me
can hostages back. That's our demand. Once you give us the
hostages. Yeah, we will stop bombing you. Yeah. But I mean,
these are has a choice. Yeah. Hamas has loudly proudly. The
leaders of a mosque said we're willing for our people to die
for our cause. They believe in being martyrs Yahya sin was proudly said this so they're willing to
sacrifice their people like they talked about a genocide your leaders are
willing to sacrifice you so like which way does it work you think they give us
the hostages okay no so imagine they had your children.
Oh, of course. No, that's not...
Look, and you're Christian. I know how close you are to everything you believe.
Vinny, do you see what's going on in Syria now?
Of course. What do you mean? I was watching...
Do you see what's going on?
Yeah, of course.
Those are your people.
Well, the world's not talking... hold on.
We talk about it. There's small groups talking about it.
Why isn't it on the main stage?
Why aren't more people pissed off than Christians?
Because when it's Christians, nobody gives a shit.
But we're talking about it now.
Everybody gives a shit.
Hold on, let's stay here.
We're talking about it now.
What would you do if those are your people?
You're from, you're Assyrian.
Yeah.
Which is Babylonian, which is modern day Iraq.
Yeah. Where's your community now?
We don't have this country why because we were crazy warriors and we were fighting
No, because the caliphate came in and said get out or you will die or pay the jizzi attacks or your infidels
Because and it's not all Muslims. I have great Muslim friends, but there's even if it's 1% which is more out of 2 billion people
that's 20 million people who are willing to die and
Sacrifice their lives to kill you. Do we have any of the videos of Syria?
Yeah, I do have this video graphic. Yeah, I don't know if we can show that for our graphic is this one
This is an amassed
Unidentified a Syrian Christian talking about how the media is not reporting on
what is going on that there are people going through and killing women and children in the
region. Just for being Christian. Kill the truth. I don't want anyone to see my face because if they
see me they will kill me. I'm from Syria. I live now in the city of Latakia.
Please, please, please.
The media is not showing you anything.
The terrorists are killing everyone.
Children, women, teenagers, old people just killing.
There is more than a hundred body in my, there is more than a hundred body in my
village now, even in the city, they are just taking the children and the women and kill them.
I don't know what to do with my mom and my two sisters.
Please, you gotta help us.
Nobody is talking anything about it, not the social media or the TV channels.
They are all hiding the truth.
They are saying that they are killing the resistance, but this is end up two days ago.
Please, you got to help us.
They have been killing people since two days until now.
Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of bodies are thrown in the street, in the villages
and in the city of Syria.
We are not allowed to go out of the house.
They just come to the houses, take the people, kill them outside of the house and take all
the phones.
So nobody record or do anything.
Please you gotta help us. I have two, I have two sisters.
I have two sisters. I don't know what to do with them. It's okay for me if I die,
but not for my two sisters or my mom. One of them is a teenager. Please you gotta help us. Nobody's talking
anything about it. Human rights, United Nations, anyone, America, anyone, anyone just please
help us.
Rob, what are the clips you have that we can show? This is heartbreaking.
This is heartbreaking and you know the saddest thing about it is nobody's gonna help them.
Nobody is going to help the Christians because nobody gives a shit about us period and I understand what you're saying
The question going back was why is the sympathy for Israel getting lesser? I think it's because they're getting tired
Do the Americans get tired because October 7th think yeah for a year everybody was like it was all crazy now
It's kind of died down
We just gave Israel another four billion dollars that kind of nobody really talked about it and Americans are just like like, you know, I'm shocked you're missing the point here. I didn't miss
the point. I'll give you an answer of why why are the numbers dropping by 6%? That's
not what I'm worried about. Well, that's what that's what the question was. Vinnie. Yes,
it was. Okay, listen. What that guy just said is they're going around killing people indiscriminately why?
Because they're Christians. Okay. Okay, who else are they killing?
Whoever I don't know Adam. They're killing any minority that is not their
faction of Islam Druze
Alawites if there's any Jews left, they're dead. So who cares if percentages of sympathies have dropped
Let's recognize what it is radical Islamic terrorism will exterminate an entire region focus on that it's not about Jews it's not about Christians it's
not about the Druze it's not about the Alawites it's about this faction of
radical Islam will take out anybody in their path.
By the way, did you see that clip of maybe 10 years ago when Trump
understands the difference between Assad versus whoever else is out there?
Do you have that clip by any chance?
He says, take a look.
He says, why does Russia support Assad?
He goes, we got to take take Isis, but we have no idea
Who's on the other side? Well, we're finding out who's on the other side
So if you can't find that clip, maybe we can show some other clips of what's happening in Syria. You have a check your text
you have but
You have to understand this is what they're trying to eradicate and this is what Israel is fighting every single day. So going back and Adam I understand everything that you're saying and I agree with what you're saying the question was that came
to me was why is the percentage even though it's small going down?
What does that have to do with it? So you mean to tell me this is why
Israel's losing sympathies because you're Syrian terrorists are killing Christians. No, he's combining to what's going on in
Syria with what's going on with the camp that's saying free Palestine. He's
combining those two together because they are related. Yes. Rob, what is this clip you're showing?
They're terrorist sympathizers. This is what was sent. This is President Trump I believe 10 years ago
regarding Assad. Let's hear the clip. Go for it. So I've watched Assad. He's lost way since then.
The problem is the other side of Assad,
we have no idea who they are.
They probably are ISIS.
I'm saying, are we better off with Assad?
We have no idea who these people are.
We give them weapons, we give them ammunition,
we give them everything.
Aaron, we have no idea who.
I mean, maybe it's worse than Assad.
So what are we doing? Why are we involved?
We have to get rid of ISIS, very importantly.
But I look at Assad and Assad to me looks better than the other side.
And you know, this has happened before.
We back a certain side and that side turns out to be a total catastrophe.
Russia likes Assad seemingly a lot.
Let them worry about ISIS.
Let them fight it out.
Yeah.
So I've watched Assad and let's show those clips of what's going on in Syria.
If the Gays for Gaza crew and the Free Palestine crew want my respect,
I want to hear you protest about what's going on to Christians.
Go ahead Palestinian Brigade.
Talk about what's going on in Christians.
Because you don't like killing of innocent people, right?
You don't like genocide, right?
But they won't say shit.
Nothing.
Because they only condemn what Israel does
to other people. They don't talk about what's going on in Yemen. They don't talk about what's
going on in Syria. They don't go talk about what's going on in Lebanon. They don't talk
about what's going on in Sudan. All they want to talk about is when Israel bombs Hamas or Hezbollah
or whatever they do. You want my respect Palestinian group?
Talk about what's going on in the Christians then you'll have a little bit
of my respect. Watch this, bark like a dog. Go ahead. They're making Christians
crawl and bark like dogs. As they beat them and shoot them. Simply for being Christians in Syria.
Is that the end of the clip?
Let me let me let me give it to you from my angle on what's going on So if I see the number on it's Lord what by six points was it five points or six points that it's lowered by?
Let's say five points is lowered by okay
How much of that is people who are sick and tired of just giving money out to anybody period?
How much of that is the APAC community that they're being critical of APAC and how many?
Congressman and senators they own how much of that is the recent
You know virality effect on social of people saying things about how much control and power
What he called a massage has and Israel has how much control and power, what do you call it, Assad has and Israel has, how much of that is the messaging being said about the level of bribery that they have
to hold people hostage and there's a reason why Epstein, how much of that is that?
I would say what?
A lot.
I think a lot of it is that.
Okay.
The poll here, our audience, 5200 people voted, right?
5265 voted.
5300 people voted, right? 5,265 voted. 5,300 people voted, okay?
Do you have more sympathy for Israelis or Palestinians?
61% Israelis, 39% Palestinians?
And then the comment section is, God forbid if you defend Israelis, you're a Zionist,
you're this, they're calling Tom Israel first, he's this, he's that, so okay. So that's the part where people nowadays are afraid of having labels on them.
You're a bigot, you're a racist, you're a, what do you call it?
Whatever it is, Zionist, you're this, you're that.
By the way, that actually had a lot of power on a lot of people for a long time.
Doesn't carry the same weight anymore today, but I'm going to give you the flip side of
it.
You know what's by far the best case study?
Here's by far the best case study.
Tate is here last week, okay?
Do you know how many people messaged me, screw you saying stuff about Pierre Polivier, you
don't even, he should never go on your podcast because of, you know what he called it, with
Tate.
I cannot believe you had Tate on.
My challenge with Pierre is the fact that he reminded me of DeSantis and Nikki Haley.
Just elitist that think they're too good to go out there and talk to anybody and I've
never liked that vibe.
Good for DeSantis.
He finally showed up.
We had a great conversation together and got a lot of eyeballs.
Nikki Haley never showed up. at least DeSantis showed up.
And he sat down, we had a conversation too.
But his team was very much arrogant, like they're already a president.
I don't like that vibe.
I've never liked that vibe since I was a kid.
But watch this.
What's-his-name-comes-here-on-the-podcast, Andrew Tate.
And I ask him about what's going on with Israel, UK, Muslim, Islam, everything.
Because he made some comments about Muslims on what's going on in the UK.
If you're not going to live the way the UK lives, get the hell out.
Who's he talking to?
Muslims.
Do you know how many people reacted on the podcast that we are, how many Muslim podcasts reacted to what Tate said about Jews and Muslims and criticizing
him for giving a reasonable answer?
What was his answer?
What did he say?
Do you remember what he said?
Tate said, Stop blaming Israel for everything.
They're not your problem.
Your arms look skinny.
Is that Israel's fault?
Hit the gym, loser! So the point there is that in the Middle East, Israel has negotiated better.
Israel has better terms.
Israel has a better community of people that are getting them to pass policies that favor
Israel.
You're naive if you don't believe that's what's taking place.
Of course that is what's taking place with the level of negotiation they have.
Guess what they do?
They invest more money in education than their kids.
They invest more money into getting their guys to be bought into their country.
They get their people to go back to Israel.
They'll pay for the school.
They'll travel you back because they want to do what?
They want to ingrain that culture in you so you love who you are.
By the way, I wish the Syrians did that.
I wish Armenians did that.
I wish everybody did that. But no, they're upset that those guys are doing that. And for me,
when I see something like this, all I think about is this. Who makes communities better?
Who makes communities better? You can say whatever you want. Who makes communities better?
Jewish people. No, did Jewish people ruin UK?
No. Did Armenians ruin UK? No. Did blacks ruin UK? No. Did Armenians ruin UK?
No.
Did blacks ruin UK?
No.
Who was it?
What is it?
What's the most common name right now in UK?
Muhammad.
It is Muhammad.
Why is stabbing so high?
Why has the culture changed so much?
Who did that?
Jews did that?
Why is Poland training their people the way they are because they know what happens when
you culturally try to change somebody.
And I'm sorry, you can be uncomfortable talking about this.
Stats.
You hate stats, that's the stats.
You want to talk about who planned parenthood destroyed the most.
You ever seen the interview with Sanger on what she says about what she says. Yeah, you ever seen what she says about abortion and blacks and how she.
Tom hates it.
Have you ever actually seen her in an interview on what she says?
Rob, if you have this clip with her.
If you have it, watch her eyes, everyone.
Watch her eyes.
Is this the interview?
Go for it, Rob.
What is she saying here? I believe so. I can play play it I have not listened to it yet I think this is
the clip watch this interview go forward eyes are the window of the soul
they believe I don't mean and believe in committing sin do you believe there is
such a thing as this is it as sin I think the greatest sin in the world is
bringing children into the world that has been diseased from their parents,
that have no chance in the world to be a human being practically, delinquents, prisoners,
all sorts of things just marked when they're born. That to me is the greatest sin that
people can commit.
But sin in the ordinary sense that we regard it, do you believe or do you not believe?
No, but what would they be?
Do you believe that infidelity is a sin?
Well, I'm not going to specify what I think is sin.
I've stated what I think is the worst sin.
Yes. But then you asked me to say what and I and I said what and
and you refuse to answer me.
I don't know about infidelity.
It has so many personalities to it.
And what person's own belief is you can't.
So I can generalize.
What community gets the most abortions in
America? The black community. So you think she was for blacks? Absolutely not. You think she was
for blacks? You can sit there and statistically look at things and get to an argument and say you
know what I'm sorry you can say whatever you want this is not favoring your argument period. So to
me I understand whatever's happened.
I think people are just burned out with helping out Ukraine.
They're just burned out.
They're just burned out.
Israel, they're just burned out with so many of it.
They're just like, listen, can we just move on?
I think a big portion of the people that were voting, I will say a bigger portion of Democrats
and independents that voted for Trump, they actually didn't want war.
They wanted peace.
Those guys top three, I'm willing to bet if we ask them who voted for Trump, they wanted
security.
They wanted these things to be done.
They were afraid of World War III.
What's this clip you got here from the Shah, by the way, Rob?
We keep bringing it back up.
Well, this is the Shah, probably, what year did he die?
81?
I give or take.
So this is probably in the mid to late 70s I'm assuming.
Where his opinion on what's going on with the Palestinians.
Go ahead.
And to the Palestinians.
The Palestinians obviously had the sympathy of many, many people.
Many, almost all the countries in the world, prosecuted people, stateless people, looking for a home
or something. You know exactly like the sympathy that the Jews had when they were searching
for a home. But our good Palestinian friends must know that there is only a limit to where
they can go and bully the world.
Bully the world?
Yes, by terrorism and blackmailing and this and that.
You know perfectly well, Your Majesty, that the leaders of the Arab world find the Palestinians
as much a problem almost as the Israelis do.
Isn't that a fact? What I can say is that they should really open their
eyes, reassert their situation, and if there is a hierarchy and someone there in
command... Of the Palestinians, you mean? Of the Palestinians to start a new policy
because the actual one is going to lead them nowhere.
With whom do they really have understanding?
With Assad, with Sadat, with Hussein?
That's a very good question.
They have none with any of these leaders?
Not to my knowledge.
And they seem to be out of control?
It seems so, today.
And what about the Arab leader who supports the
Palo? I think it's so telling he was giving them advice that you do have
certain sympathies around the world. I think it's interesting that this article
talks about American sympathies for Israel versus the Palestinians. He was
giving our Palestinian friends a heads up. He said there are certain people in the world that have sympathies for you.
But you're not going to bully the world.
He used very specific terms.
Speaks very eloquently.
You're not going to create terrorism.
You're not going to blackmail people.
You're creating bigger problem than you are solving the problem.
He says I highly suggest you reassess your situation and
develop a better policy and better strategy that will hopefully put you in a better place. I'll ask
you this, has their policy changed at all? If anything, it's gotten worse. They have not tried
to negotiate. They have not accepted any sort of peace deal.
They're in a worse situation than they were in the 70s. They have not chose their enemy
wisely in the capacity that they have zero game plan. Their game plan, from what it seems is to attack, lose, cry victim, wait a few years, attack, lose, cry
victim.
It's going on for perpetuity and he called it out right there and it's been 40 years
since then and nothing's changed.
Well, I mean, listen, for what it's worth worth If you spend some time watching clips of the shah i've watched anything and everything I can find over the years
You will realize how safe the middle east was when he was running. Yeah, okay
They got along with everybody. They were the second country after united states iran to recognize
The state of israel 1940. I know I know. And look at the revolution that has spread since 1979 has been one of the worst traits
of the world all caused by the Ayatollah.
And guess what?
Saddam Hussein, say what the hell you want about him.
He kept all those freaking people in check.
It was until we did an illegal war and made them hang his ass, and then what happened
to the Middle East.
So thank you.
It's almost like what's worse, an autocrat or jihadist?
Let's go to the next clip.
Let's go to the next clip.
Let's go to the next clip.
All right.
So Whoopi Goldberg and The View.
So this is the International Women's Day.
On International Women's Day, do you know who The View has as a guest?
You ready?
Dylan Mulvaney for International Women's Day, do you know who the view has as a guest? You ready? Dylan Mulvaney for International Women's Day.
And they wonder why they keep losing Democrats.
They wonder why they keep losing Democrats, but you have to hear what Whoopi said here.
I just want to get your thoughts.
I asked everybody, guys, how did you take this thing here when you watch it yourself?
And Rob was giving me his perspective.
I want to know what you think about it.
Rob, go ahead and play this clip.
When you come in and you say, oh, you know, these men, these are men, you know, competing
against women, you're assuming that the women are weak and just can't do anything except
for here.
Have you seen female female athletes they know
what they're doing so I'm not sure what's going on or why this
is an issue Adam I mean Rob so at what I remember having a
conversation with a woman who was incredibly woke and I said at
what point when a man wants to identify as a woman who was incredibly woke. And I said, at what point when a man wants to identify
as a woman, do you accept it?
But she goes, right away.
I said, so right away, once they identify as something,
you're willing to allow them to be the gender that they,
so I said, so I'm a dude, right?
She goes, yeah, and I go, but now I'm a woman. She goes, okay. I go, am I a woman now? She goes, yeah, if you feel
that way. I go, no, I'm fucking not. I'm a dude. So like, what game are we playing? And
she got very upset with me. And I go, excuse me, don't talk to a lady that way. And now
I started mocking her but I realized the
Absurdity of her however you feel you can identify Rob. Here's a picture of Dylan Milvaney just a few years ago
Let me know if you have this I sent it to via text. So
It's in your text. He's still a dude. Could we just make this clear? He's a dude.
It's a dude playing dress up.
He has testicles underneath that dress.
So with the view, all chicks and a dude, a well shaved dude.
Let's just not forget guys.
Don't let them fool you.
That's who he was.
Just a few.
It was just a dude holding tampons in his hand. So they just had a vote in Congress about banning men from women's
sports and I think 100% of the Republicans voted against it.
Yeah, I guess to push on our guys, Whoopi's perspective, what is Whoopi saying? Do you
have opinions on what Whoopi said?
I think Whoopi's basically making the case as like men competing there as if women can't
step up and actually compete with these men.
That's how delusional and how stupid.
That's why you notice the audience, nobody's clapping, even Dylan's, him and his testicles
have no idea what the hell is going on or what she's saying.
It's complete lunacy.
Do you have the high jump the the the guy that decides
to go compete with ladies and how he performed against the ladies triple jump last week yeah
triple jump if you have the clip rob yeah while you're pulling up did you see the guy that
no woman that that dunked on the chick and like basically put his nuts in her face yeah he's like
can you can you pull up that clip rob what clip is he talking about? Adam watches interesting videos
unfortunately these videos exist at this point look at this triple jump and it's
set up for women this is set up for women and that's a guy that's a dude is
there interview afterwards? Is there audio have that just wrong wrong. Is there audio Rob? We can hear that or I?
That's the interview. Let's hear the interview what he says
And just playing dress up. I leave high school amazing three wins today. What was the SMR?
Long triple and then have high later, and you still got the high jump amazing performances so far
How are you feeling just about a day went today at Ontario Relay? I'm very excited
I don't know is this a guy that's a girl. I was like oh, maybe I'm not gonna do as good as triple
But I'm glad that I performed pretty well, and I'm just excited
What do you think really?
This is well yeah, this is besides the insanity part of it,
besides the insanity, these dudes are just lazy pieces
of you know what.
Because you cannot compete against other men.
Let me ask you a question.
Yeah.
That person, she's in high school.
He, you mean he?
Well, he's in high school.
How much of him behaving that way is his parents,
how much of it is him?
I think a lot of it comes to either trauma or something happened in his life
where he he's they didn't deal with the actual problem that was going on.
What percentage you put on the parents? I put 80% on the parents.
Toma, what percentage you put on the parents? I'm with him. I put 70-80% on the
parents on the enabling side and then I put 30% on some sort of trauma or crisis.
We start questioning himself and there's the outcome America.
There's the outcome where we now think feelings are okay,
your feelings, whatever feelings you have.
So we're going to ratify your feelings and saying you're okay,
but there's a hell of a jump, no pun intended, from your feelings
are okay and trying to, you know, make somebody
not feel bad, which is not the way to handle these things. And then say, Oh, and you also
want to do other things now that you feel this way? Well, certainly I don't want you
to feel bad. So I'm going to let you know them. Wait a minute. Now you've discriminated
against a whole group of people. Yeah, I put it right. To your question, I'm 70% parents, 30%.
There's some sort of a crisis or something causing that individual to...
Let me do this. While we're moving on from this.
Rob, can you pull up the Bernie Sanders concert clip and who he brings up, okay?
This is why you're losing people.
This is why the Democrat... Did you hear what Van Jones said yesterday? We'll go to the Van Jones clip afterwards, but if you can find that clip, Vinny, do you
have the concert you texted to?
Vinny O'Brien Yeah, Rob, did I?
Rob Lopate There is one specific one with the key words.
Vinny O'Brien Bernie Sanders, it was a trans, I actually
wrote this down, let me write it down. So, Bernie Sanders had a transgender singer, Laura
Jane Grace performed at his rally, and you know what?
I'm not gonna say it because it was blasphemous,
it was disrespectful and should not be celebrated.
The song was, and Rob, trust me, you don't wanna play it,
you're gonna piss people off,
God have, does God have a big fat, you know what,
and then kept going, and even the hand interpreter
was like, what the, didn't even know what to do
because they're disrespecting God.
Why don't you do it and let's just, don't put the audio.
Let's just see the hand interpreter. I've seen this.
Just turn off the audio, Rob, if you could. Go for it.
Look at the, look at the hand interpreter.
Big, big fat, yeah, look at that.
She's like like what the
Can we can't sing it? Yeah, well, let's talk about god and big and that's god. Okay, but where is that?
That's the key. This is where this is that a bernie sanders
Rally and then he comes on after and thanks him her she then we find that clip
Rob, can you find that show bernie rob rob b Bernie Rob. We just had one of Bernie's biggest supporters, Ben Cohen, the founder of Ben and Jerry's
was here.
We did the podcast last week.
That's it.
Look how crazy his eyes look.
Is that him thanking him?
That's him thanking a couple people.
Let me see it Rob, play the clip.
Let me thank the University of Wisconsin Parkside for the venue.
Let me thank Kinseller and Pulse LLC for the music. Here it comes. Laura Jane Grace for the music. Right there. By the way, Van Jones, if you can find Van Jones, he says we're in deep issue with the
Democratic Party.
Guess what?
This is why you're getting your ass handed to you.
Because you think just because Democrats, all of them, are Democrats, they're 100% supporting
this.
They're not.
I'm willing to bet two-thirds of Democrats are sitting there saying, what the hell are
you guys talking about?
Rob, that's the clip right there.
That's the one.
He's saying that absolutely keep, is that the one, Rob?
What is it saying in the description?
Can you look it up?
Because the girl in the middle is the one.
Van Jones, Tom, Democrats, that's the one. That's the one Rob? What is the saying the description? Can you look it up because the girl in the middle is the one? Van Jones time of Democrats man. That's that's the one. That's the one watch this clip and he's right go for it
Yeah, and then just lastly Van in terms of Democrats and where they go from here this last week. We did see them
Try to some people try to protest during the president's address and and then leader house leadership
Getting on to them other Democrats calling them out. They still seem to be wandering around trying to figure figure this out
What's your take?
Can we ask another question
Can we talk about Ukraine or something no, no look man, we're we're screwed
I mean, we don't know know Democrats don't know what to do
This is this is a nightmare. You know somebody like Donald Trump
We thought we'd at least have you know
Hakeem Jeffries in the speaker's chair to hold him back if we didn't have Kamala in there to do the right thing
Listen, the Democratic Party is
Going through a massive set of internal crises
You have a man. They that got trapped two ways.
One, defending a broken status quo that nobody likes
because they thought that Donald Trump
was gonna make it worse.
But when you're defending a status quo, you're gonna lose.
And then offending most people in the country,
calling everybody sexist and racist and transphobic
and every other name, and then saying, please follow us. That's not a good strategy folks.
Bingo. Defending a broken state.
Bingo. And offending most of the country.
So guess what, you can pause it at that point. I mean that's the part when you're watching this
kind of stuff where Van Jones is cornered to the point that he has to say, hey guys, this strategy
kind of sucks. You're judging everybody and yet you want them to join you and then you want to have a performance of a guy mocking God and then you want to have a woman on international
day.
You want to put a guy there, Dylan Mulvaney.
You couldn't have chosen a better lady to put on there than a Dylan Mulvaney.
That's a spitting in woman's face.
You're pushing.
Keep—Republicans ought to sit there and say, please keep doing that.
Keep doing that.
Bill Maher is sitting there saying what the, Bill Maher is so close to being a Republican
but he just cannot do it.
He knows if he does it, he will never be invited to those parties ever again.
Yeah.
I love how you asked the question, who do you put this on?
Do you put this on the parents?
Do you put this on the children?
Everyone can get a little blame. You know what I also blame?
Women themselves. At what point, if you're the girls in high school, do you say, no,
no, no, I'm not competing with this dude playing dress-up competing with us? Like
you have no idea how much respect I have for someone like Riley Gaines, who's out there. She's getting hated on by women who are basically saying you're anti-woman or you're anti-trans.
By which women though?
Which women?
By woke, liberal women.
Thank you.
So what Van Jones is doing is calling out the Democratic Party.
I don't remember who it was, but we've said it multiple times.
All Trump and the Republicans are doing is taking 80 20 issues and going on the 80% side and
letting the Democrats who have a
31% approval rating the lowest on record that in our lifetime and
Then let them take the 20% of the issue. It makes no sense. Let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story
Let's go to the next door Stephen Let's go to the next story.
Stephen A. Smith ends up getting his $100 million contract from ESPN.
Well deserved. I think he's still underpaid, but congratulations to him.
He makes more money than a lot of NBA players.
Matter of fact, I think there was a chart showing that the guy makes more money than most NBA players.
However, while he didn't even have a chance to celebrate his contract,
gets a $100 million contract, NBA players. However, while, I mean, he didn't even have a chance to celebrate his contract.
Gets a $100 million contract. Then all of a sudden, he's at a game, watching the Lakers
play. Rob, if you have that clip of him watching the Lakers play where LeBron walks up on him,
watch this clip here, guys. Watch this. Go for it. What do you think he said?
Okay, so Rob, do you have the words on what was said?
Because there's clips.
Is this him explaining what happened?
Yes.
Okay, play this clip here.
Go for it.
LeBron ambushed me at the Lakers game last night.
The guy came right up to me, court side, and yelled in my face.
He said, fuck you, you Stephen a I take craps
bigger than you plus I heard you said brawny sucks at
basketball and he's only in the end because I made the Lakers draft him so I
said to him you got your son a job he didn't deserve white people all the damn
time so I don't blame you but brawny is shorter than a garden gnome and he lays more bricks than a
tequila fuel
I'm a brawny James should work out
Go find a clip of insane what he says
That was on Twitter and a I got well if it was on Twitter it must be true well There was no no there's a there's a one that he's reacting
Yeah, and he's like okay while Rob's finding that go ahead and Vinnie your thoughts on this okay?
So a few things for me.
I mean, congratulations to Steve Van Ayn.
I don't think anybody, especially in that space,
deserves it more.
But, you know, and you guys are gonna see the conversation.
I found it, hang on, I found it.
Okay, let's see this for a minute.
I found that it's a minute, is this a minute clip, Rob?
A minute 14. Yeah, that's fine.
Go for it, Rob, go for it.
Obviously.
He approached me during the game,
and he said,
stop effing with my son. He approached me during the game and he said,
stop effing with my son.
That's my effing son. Stop effing with my son.
I said, what?
Nah, nah, nah, straight up, man to man.
Real talk, stop effing with my son.
And I saw how furious he was.
And I said, we can talk about it later.
Nah, eff that, eff that.
Stop effing with my son.
That's my son.
That's my son.
I said, all right, Doug.
Fine.
And he walked away.
That's all he said.
I knew what he was talking about. I've spoken about this
before. Matter of fact, I heard that not many, not all, but a few players were
upset at me about that. I think one player in particular was Trey
Monagreen, who I haven't spoken to since and has no desire to speak to me primarily because
of this I suppose. And I found out the way that I found out which was last night.
Vinnie. Okay. So long story short. Stephen A Smith is? What's his job at ESPN Sports? He's a sports
reporter, sports analyst. Thank you, Adam. So him criticizing Bronnie James being in
the NBA basically because of his father, okay, LeBron James. And he just said he doesn't
believe that he's ready for the league and would benefit more development in college
or in the G league. Okay. That's just it just it okay so LeBron crying and the whole father point of view but like I
I'm anti the whole that was a father talking no no no you're the reason that
your son is way in way over his head okay Bronnie's good but he needs time to
develop you just want to be on the court with your son
I get that but in regards to um
Stephen a bro let me explain something to you that's Stephen a that just got that hundred million and that freakin New York
And I know being a freakin New Yorker any man. I don't give a shit if it's LeBron James
I don't care if it's Donald Trump. I don't care who you are
you are not stepping to me on a court and trying to sun me in front of the world because every camera's on you
And you're just gonna sit there and not say anything back. I don't give if he's barking at me. I'm barking right back
I was expecting Stephen a to be the Stephen a Smith that we know on freaking camera
I was a little bit disappointed cuz I was back to him to play
You'll get the hell out of my face and check his ass be like, you know, your son doesn't belong in the NBA
I'm not it's not a personal. He's not going after Bronny James
because he just doesn't like Bronny James, Pat. He doesn't belong in the league.
If you've been watching any of the games, and I know you haven't, neither have I,
I have to go look up clips. He's okay. I think he needs two or three years to develop.
But A, I don't respect what LeBron is doing, stepping to him and trying to embarrass him.
But I wanted Stephen Day to go back and go to for his juggler. By the way he's played 44 minutes in the
NBA has scored four points as 1 for 16 0 for 6 0 for 7 from 3. So what does that
so does that mean? Stephen A is right why aren't you sticking back? He's averaging
point four points a game and he's 1 for 16 so Tom your thoughts? Well I split it
in half and the first thing we were talking
about the contract, you know what, Stephen A just did
something. First guy through the wall usually takes a lot of
heat and in when you create a precedent. And this is the
future of media contracts. In the old days, he would have had
an ESPN contract to do ESPN things and he could not have gone beyond that realm of ESPN.
This way, he gets to be who he is as a personality. He has a voice, he's got talent, and that talent can be spread in different ways.
And now this contract values him at ESPN and gives him the ability to do those things. Congratulations to Stephen A.
And just remember, first guys through the wall get the bloodiest
and that was your job right now, but a lot of people are going to follow you.
Now, in terms of the rest, I don't know any further history with Stephen A.
and LeBron, but it is, but suffice to say, they know each other.
They've had interviews together.
They've had a lot of conversations together.
They probably text together.
And then with all of that background, maybe they're not super buddies,
but there's a background there.
This is Stephen A's.
These are Stephen A's sports.
He's an expert on this.
He comes over to him and really gets in his grill.
And as you said, kind of sundom, he's sullied them.
And I'll have to say this, you know, LeBron, you got to look at what is the reality
of the draft pick. Let's all step back and take the name off the jersey. How does that
draft pick working out against NBA competition? It looks like a draft pick and Adam, I think you
would agree. Hey, that particular draft pick clearly a talent
But maybe it's gonna spend some summer in and in the G League
Yeah, right
Maybe we're gonna have some things here and if that would get said now on LeBron's of course
You're gonna be upset as a father if things are like this because he's probably trying to protect him from the avalanche of stuff
That LeBron knows the media can bring on you.
But I don't recall Stephen A going after Brawny the way people sometimes go after you on sports
talk shows.
I don't recall that kind of heat.
And so yeah, I was a father.
I think that's given LeBron a little bit of an out there because nobody came down on on LeBron
and nobody came down on Brownie with a lot of heat and I think that's what gets lost in the middle
of this. I think it's really unfortunate that Stephen A's got this little controversy in the
middle of a week where we should be looking at what did he just do for media talent going forward.
He set a great precedent. Yeah, Adam. Well, and
I'll just quote what Stephen A Smith said. LeBron didn't come and talk to him as a Laker.
He didn't come to talk to him as an NBA player. He didn't come to talk to him as arguably
the second greatest player of all time. He came and talked to him man to man as a father straight up. Steven A Smith said this.
He basically said in mouth.
If you're going to like keep my son's name out your mouth on
some Will Smith.
Keep my wife's name out your mouth when he slapped Chris Rock
and the brown look like you could have Steven A Smith respect
to him.
He stood there.
He took it like a G but
Bronnie is playing in the D League or the G league as they call it.
And here's a little fun fact for you. Stats,
LeBron's rookie year stats compared to Brawny's
rookie year stats are eerily similar when LeBron won
rookie of the year in the NBA, 20 points, five rebounds,
five assists, shooting
over 40%. That's exactly what Brawny is averaging in the G league. 20 points, five rebounds,
five assists, shooting 43%. The only problem is it's in the G league in the NBA. He's averaging
one point, a half a rebound, a half assist shooting 25%. Nobody
thought brownie was ready for the NBA. His dad. This was
LeBron using his influence to say, I want my son to play with
me. I don't care if he's not ready. A year ago, he was
playing for USC and he missed half the season because he had a
heart condition. Yeah, I think it's actually
awesome that a father and son first ever are playing together. Nobody thought that Bronnie
was going to be an integral part of the Lakers who by the way don't look now just acquired
Luca a month ago. They're now I think tied for second in the West maybe third behind Denver
Last point is this? Stephen a Smith is not tight with LeBron at all. They're not cool. They're not homies
Stephen a Smith is an MJ guy. He always defends MJ. He always says that MJ is the greatest player ever
He's the goat. What's your point? And he trashes LeBron. Meaning there's history there.
They're not friends.
Yeah, okay, so let me give my final thoughts and I'm going to go past this and just kind
of simplify it.
By the way, I think there was another take that Stephen A. did to say that it came up
and it's really about LeBron.
It's not about his son.
It's really about you.
It's not about your son.
It's about you.
And I agree with him.
This is about LeBron.
It's not about your son, it's about you. And I agree with him. This is about LeBron. It's not about his son.
LeBron wants a certain kind of immunity that maybe other players haven't had.
Guys are getting called out for coming in and how they're playing.
He was able to get certain favors to get his son to play.
Now, I'm very comfortable with what Stephen A. has said to him, calling him out, double
down on it.
LeBron James will go down as the greatest flapper of all time.
He will go down as, there's so many different arguments being made right now with this guy here.
To me, he destroyed the league. He destroyed viewership. He lost half the clients, half the
fans that were watching him. Last two All-Stars, the one he played in was the least viewed All-Star.
played in was the least viewed all-star. God knows since pre-MJ getting into the NBA, the least viewed all-star. It's dropped over 50% since he entered the league in 2003. This
is a guy that is such a, the most drama queen, you know, superstar in the history of any
sports we've ever had. And now he wants to pass that along with Steven A. Good for Steven
A. for doubling down. I'm actually very comfortable with it
Okay, can somebody go check to see what that is add one thing to that. What's that? He won four championships
manipulating rosters and traveling from coast to coast and
Larry
Michael
MJ and magic never did that who's that who never did that said traveled coast to coast to
did that. Who's that? Who never did that? He said traveled coast to coast to manipulate rosters and win his championships. MJ didn't do that. Magic
didn't do that. Larry didn't do that. Kobe didn't do that. They didn't they
didn't go. He's the biggest crybaby of all superstars of all time. But he is the second
greatest basketball player of all time. Statistically. I've said that myself. Yeah that's
fine. And I'm comfortable saying that but he he's not at the level of, huh?
He ain't MJ.
Not even close to.
He'll never ever, ever be MJ.
Not even close to.
It's just not going to take place.
It's just not going to take place.
Okay, so let's go through a couple things here.
Watch this one here.
So Bill Maher is saying stuff about Jasmine Crockett, but before I go to the Bill Maher
clip, Rob, can you go to the Jasmine Crockett clip of her saying it is not a crime to cross the border illegally? Watch this and then go to the Bill Maher clip, Rob, can you go to the Jasmine Crockett clip of her saying it is not a crime to cross the border illegally?
Watch this and then go to the Bill Maher clip.
Go for it, Rob.
It is not a criminal violation to enter the country illegally.
It's not a criminal.
It's a crime.
It's not a crime, which is why they're so frustrated.
What's the word illegal mean?
Because they could have brought in our local law enforcement.
Illegal is a crime.
To go out and round up people when they could be looking out for the murderers and the sexual What's the word illegal mean? Illegal is a crime.
When they could be looking out for the murderers and the sexual abusers as well as the robbers
They want them to go and round people up on civil accusations.
And so that imposes so you can go to bill marr's clip rob watch this folks
So who is she? She is somebody that's become a star in the Democratic Party. Go ahead Rob, watch this clip.
Makes sense.
Certainly enough for accuracy.
...Crocket, who is, I thought, a big leader in the Democratic Party.
Her quote is, this is a terrible nightmare.
Somebody slap me and wake me the fuck up because I'm ready to get on with it.
On with what would be my first question.
And also, this by the way.
By the way, you can go to the other clip as well that he had with the stats and the
polls and fact-check and everything.
Go for it.
So did you watch the speech on Tuesday night?
The long hundred-minute speech?
Regrettably, but yes.
Okay.
Most of it.
All right.
So Trump said some things that were not exactly true.
And when I say not exactly, I mean not at all.
And I just think we should talk about that by saying,
I don't want to talk about that.
Because if you're conservative and you
see him say many, many things that are not even close to true,
you just don't care anymore.
This is so baked in the cake.
That is who he is.
They do not take him literally or think he needs to be taken literally.
That's an amazing advantage in politics, I think,
but that's in.
And if you're a liberal watching MSNBC every day,
you're obsessed with this.
And you've seen all these things where they exposed it.
I'm bored with that shit, okay?
This is what he does.
It's, I just take everything with a grain of salt.
If he says Zelensky's approval rating is 4%, it's 57.
Who's the girl on the right?
Is that the view?
She's the conservative on the view.
And that's John Tester, who's the, he was a Democrat senator of Montana, I believe,
that lost, but he was a Democrat in Montana.
So she's the conservative on the view.
She's supposed to be the conservative on Trump Jasmine Crockett
you see something like this what do you think about Vinny oh well think about
this is this is the same as these they can't get out of their own their own way
like the same thing that we see with the Dilla Mulvaney and the and the
transgender and the men's sports she is the epitome of DEI hire just the I'm telling you guys right now
Republicans they're in such good shape for I think a generation maybe a couple
generations because this loud angle motherfuckers by the cussing in Congress
cussing on the floor in front of Congress live in front of the world to
see this why she just made another video of, who's the guy that's saying the halftime show at the Super Bowl?
Kendrick Lamar.
She did a video of dancing like him in the Senate, in Congress.
She's doing these types of videos.
It's just ignorant at all levels.
Like I said, they're doomed.
The Democratic Party is doomed because of people like that.
They think the answer is Jasmine Crockett, a loud, angry black chick that's only got her job because of DEI period.
Tom, contrived outrage wins no new followers. And guess what? Keep it up, baby. Keep it up.
Take the L.
Well, she didn't get her job because of DEI. She actually won her election in Texas.
I'm not defending how she acts.
But if the Democratic Party wants to keep doubling down on not securing the border, on
doge not finding waste, fraud and abuse, on woke DEI agenda, they're going to continue
to lose.
I repeat, just like James Carville, it's the economy, stupid. Focus on what's going on
in the economy, focus on jobs. Democrats lost union support in
the 2024 election. That should never happen. So if you want to
keep doing this ridiculous song and dance, go for it Kendrick
Lamar, but it's not working.
Want to see a clip of her? Like her? Have you seen her in Congress?
Rob, I just sent you a clip.
Just this is her.
Look at how professional, how she speaks.
She's a very, very positive.
You want this person leading the charge.
There has been no oppression for the white man in this country.
You tell me which white men were dragged out of their homes.
You tell me which one of them got dragged all the way across an ocean and told that
you were going to go and work.
We are going to steal your wives.
We are going to rape them.
She hates white people by the way.
That didn't happen.
That is oppression.
We didn't ask to be here we
not the same migrants that y'all constantly come up against we didn't run away from home
we were stolen so yeah we are going to sit here and be offended when you want to sit
here and act like and and and don't let it escape you that it is white man on this side of
the aisle telling us people of color on this side of the aisle
she is that they all are the ones being oppressed. There has
been
Yeah, she's she's a she's a winner that will work for her
district. That's it. Meaning the victim mentality whoever I think
she's in in Dallas, I want to she's Texas 30 on the south side
of Dallas economically devastated
area. That's not a way.
No, no, no, this is the east side of South Oakland, South of
it. But that's not a winning message.
Like the R and AOC they think they think that she's the future
don't putting it all in on her. She was named the co chair.
Don't get representatives twisted with senators
governors or presidents AOC you do just fine or a little district in Brooklyn and
This girl dude or the Bronx this girl do just fine or her whatever district in Dallas
They're not winning state elections or national elections with this type of men
Let's go through two more stories and we'll wrap up.
Okay, one of the stories I want to go through is Canada.
Canada, Mark Carney wins race to replace Trudeau as Canada's Prime Minister.
Rob, if you want to play this clip, this is the same guy that's a former Bank of England
guy, governor and World Economic Forum guy.
Rob, if you can play a couple of these clips on how he says the one clip that he says I wish I could stand up here talk about your
accomplishments but I don't have that much time you know which one I'm talking
about he's given Trudeau the clip which are this one where he talks about
Donald Trump but play play that clip play that clip
I got it. Hold on.
Children?
Okay.
Go for it.
Yeah.
Donald Trump.
Donald Trump.
And Donald Trump, as we know, has put, as a part of his leadership, unjustified tariffs
on what we build, on what we sell, on how we make a living.
He's attacking Canadian families, workers and businesses and we cannot let him succeed.
Wow, what a great, we cannot let him succeed.
We cannot let him succeed.
What other clips you got of this guy Rob?
Is this the one that he's thanking Trudeau?
No, I'm looking for that as well right now, but this is another clip of him where he talks
about the tariffs from Trump and their effect on the economy.
Let's see what this one is Rob, go for it.
These are dark days.
Dark days brought on by a country we can no longer trust. We are
getting over the shock but let us never forget the lessons. We have to look after
ourselves and we have to look out for each other. We need to pull together in the tough days ahead.
Here's the final clip. I believe this is the one you were looking for. Go for it.
Prime Minister Trudeau, my time doesn't permit me to recognize all your accomplishments.
doesn't permit me to recognize all your accomplishments. So I'll speak at a higher level.
You have combined strength and compassion
every day as a fighter for Canada.
You have to read that up. Look at this dork.
What a dork.
You have led us through some of the hardest challenges that this nation has ever faced.
He put them in.
Hey.
Rob, can you do me a favor? If you can play the clip of Trudeau crying and getting emotional. If you got that clip.
That's what I use.
If you can go to that.
I play that to go to sleep at night.
Yeah. I go to that. I play that to go to sleep at night.
Yeah, you're the same.
This is after the terror fort.
On a personal level, I've made sure that every single day in this office, I put Canadians
first.
That I have people's backs.
And that's why I'm here to tell you all that we got you. Even in the very last days of this
government, we will not let Canadians down today and long into the future.
You can pause it right there, Rob. This is great because you can only take so much of this time.
Your thoughts on this with the new president, new prime minister?
Well, first of all, it's going to be fun to watch Canadian politics all this year
because the reason this guy, by the way, this guy was not elected by the people.
He was elected by 89.5 percent of the liberal party that said, you're our guy
because they're still in power.
And so when when Fidel Castro's son
resigns as prime minister, and suddenly, allegedly, I
went there, and then you have this guy gets elected 89.5% of his party.
This would be like Nancy Pelosi resigning his speaker because she had an illness or
just resigned for controversy.
And then well, that doesn't change the fact that the Dems would still be in power so they would elect a new speaker. Well now October's coming and October's coming
we're going to see this guy face off against probably you know Pierre Polyvair. So that's when
the next big roundup is going to happen is the national election is going to happen. But now
this now what Mark has had this guy's a real globalist.
He's Bank of England.
There are people even in Canada that are really worried about this guy on a far
deeper level that he's really not Canada.
He's really a hyper liberal globalist.
And we're going to see the parlor game play out the summer with tariffs and
things that are going on.
And by the way, they just stood on their little Canadian soapbox, the population
of California that all lives within a hundred miles that excuse me, 89% of them
live within a hundred miles of the of the U S border right there on the border,
mainly Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto.
And now he's your guy, but there's a lot, there's a lot that's
going to go on this summer. And then there'll be a big election in October. And right now,
their biggest issue is they thought with that size of country I just described, that they could put a
finger in China's eye that came back with heavy tariffs back the other way. So congratulations,
dude. Your first job isn't Donald Trump and 25% tariffs.
Your first job is you just pissed off China.
So this is actually sort of backfiring against what we would
have maybe hoped or expected to come from Canada. Because
Justin Trudeau's approval ratings were in the in the
basement 20 something percent. He actually had one. Yeah,
it was an actually he steps down a couple months ago, and he
sort of slides in this guy Mark Carney, you know, three months
ago, Pierre Poliev, who was expected to be the next prime
minister, his polymarket ratings for likelihood to become the next
prime minister were at 90%. Now they're at 60%. This guy Mark
Carney, who was in Nowheresville is now at 40%. What Trump has
done is he's sort of revived Canadian pride. When have you
seen Canadians talk tough in the last
hand? Even if they try they can't. But they're basically saying they found
an enemy. Everyone needs an enemy. They found an enemy in Trump and it's
backfiring. Now the guy that they're basically saying anyone who's true
conservatives, my friend, rich Cooper, talking about this guy, Max Bernier,
they're talking about him being the guy. I don't think this guy
Carney is gonna be the guy long term. He's a temporary stopgap. You know what it what it
Austin powers the great Austin powers say
About car knees he goes there's only two things I fear in this world. Number one, nuclear war. Number two, corny's circus folk smell like cabbage. This guy, small hands, smells like cabbage.
So this guy's a corny. I think he's only there for show for a
couple months because election is happening. I think in May, a
few months away, drawing a bounce right now in the polls.
So the actual elections October 20th of 2025 you're right
There's but they're saying that they can call for a snap election in May
Let me just give my thoughts to the people who were not happy with what I said about Pierre polivier on how
How much of an elitist he gives me the vibes he is and he's no got not going on other podcasts and a lot of people
Responded back to who the hell do you guys think are you're Americans you're this a lot of people support it the fact that you're right
He's not you know he's a world economic forum guy, and you know he's a
Apologist to Ukraine recent support of Ukraine what he's got and then some are bringing up max and you know max
You know
He is the conservative guy. He's the guy that some of the guys are excited
about, but I don't think he can win it.
That's what a lot of people are saying.
Here's what I'll tell you.
The common thread was that politicians in Canada are afraid to talk to Americans because
they're worried that the liberals will use them as a, hey, look at this guy, they're
another person that's owned by Americans and they're another person that's owned by this.
If you're afraid to have those conversations, it just means you're not fit for the job.
It means you're afraid.
You're concerned.
You're worried.
God forbid.
You're playing politics.
Wear this color tie.
You know how you watch these movies?
What was that one movie with Zach Galifianakis with the other guy that they're running for
president with Will Ferrell?
Wear this tie.
Wear jeans because if you wear jeans and roll up your sleeves, it looks like you're presidential
and you relate to people and wear this and wear that.
Be quiet.
You know, who are you?
What are you running for?
Go run on that.
Go run on that.
If you're so worried about what the left is going to say about you, you're already not
qualified enough to be the president.
What are you going to do when the, what Russia is going to say about you, China is going
to say about you, other people are going to say about you.
If you're a leader, go sit down with as many people as possible.
So the race is October 20th.
I am so curious on how much offense Pierre is going to play between now and then and
I hope all the people that are supporters of him, if you want him
to win, keep asking him on X every single day.
What podcast are you going on next?
What show are you going on next?
Who are you talking to the people?
Hold them accountable the same way we held people accountable on our side in America
to get who we wanted.
You as a voter got to do the same as well.
It'd be interesting to see what Max is going to be doing.
This would be an edge for Max.
If Max decided to go on a tour and sit down with a bunch of different people in America,
Canada, no matter where you are, just to talk and tell the story, Max plays that card of
going to people and he doesn't, that would be his campaign.
I'm not afraid to talk to anybody, you're afraid.
Last one I'm going to wrap up with before we move on is Thomas Massey and Trump.
Rob, what is going on there with Thomas Massey and Trump?
So there is a tweet that comes out from the President this morning, Axios reports that
Trump vows to lead charge to unseat GOP Representative Thomas Massey.
Thomas Massey responds back, Rob, if you have the clip on the right there, okay, zoom in
a little bit.
Thank you to the House Freedom Caucus for just delivering a big blow to the radical
left democrats and their desire to raise taxes and shut down our country.
They hate America and all it stands for.
That's why they allowed millions of criminals to invade our nation.
Sometimes it takes great courage to do the right thing.
Congressman Thomas Massey of beautiful Kentucky is an automatic no vote on just about everything
despite the fact that he has always voted for continuing resolutions in the past.
He should be primaried and I will lead the charge against him.
He's just another grandstander who's too much trouble and not worth the fight.
He reminds me of Liz Cheney before her historic record breaking fall loss.
The people of Kentucky won't stand for it.
Just watch.
Do I have any takers?
Anyway, thank you again for the House Freedom Caucus for your very important vote.
We need to buy some time in order to make America great again, greater than ever before,
unite and win.
Rob, can you go to Thomas Massey's Twitter again?
Because I think he did respond back to that.
His message is, just typing it out, if you can go to it.
It is a recent tweet responding back to it.
Go a little bit lower, zoom in to see if you see it.
It's on one of the accounts.
You know nowadays everybody's got like ten accounts.
Someone thinks they can control my voting card by threatening my reelection.
Guess what? It doesn't work with me. Three times I've been challenger who tried to be
more mega than me, none busted 25% because of my constituents prefer transparency and
principles over blind allegiance. Okay? And the guy puts a Twitter tweet like tick-tock,
your time is coming for this to happen. So Vinny, what are your thoughts on this with Thomas Massey and I?
Don't I was just gonna say this came out of nowhere like for him to just go after him this much
What what is this thing that he's going up against Tom?
What's the thing that he's actually going against that that would piss off Trump to get to that level?
Well, he supposedly is holding his vote for the CR the continuing resolution. OK. And Trump and Howard Lutnick are both pushing people to vote on the
continuing resolution. And what's a continuing resolution?
Well, a continuing resolution, it'll be abbreviated CR.
You see it all over in Twitter space.
OK, it's basically a resolution that says, OK, we're going to put this much
money over here,
and we're gonna have to continue,
we'll be able to continue government operating,
we'll be able to continue these things going on,
and we're gonna continue this till we get to the big bill.
And so a continuing resolution is a resolution to continue
with the spending over here while we negotiate maybe a
larger bill or we get to the end of the legislative session. And
apparently Thomas Massey and others, and there's a few things
going on in here, are like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not
going to automatically vote on a continuing resolution. Because I
want to know what's in it. Why don't we speed up the vote on
the bigger? What did I want to do the impersonation
that Adam does the big beautiful spending bill? Yeah, that they've been talking about.
And so that's what's going on. And apparently there were talks behind closed doors or something
happened. And, you know, Trump, we saw his tweet this morning. He was very aggravated and was very, very direct about it. And
Thomas Massey was equally direct in the other way saying, okay, threaten me with my election.
Gosh, you know, the last couple people done that haven't broken through 25% of the vote,
I've done okay. And I feel confident in my own skin. Okay, so because this is the first time
as I looked it up, that Trump targeted Massey back in 2020
where Trump criticized him for opposing a COVID-19 relief package calling him a third
rate grandstander.
So they do have...
Massey is known for being a proponent of the single issue resolution or the single issue
bill.
It's like if you call it a COVID bill, then the only thing that
should be in here is COVID.
Which I kind of respect.
By the way, so if you can pull up this clip, this is the clip.
This is, this is, this is what's said by Massey because to him it's like,
Hey, I want that money that we're saving with Doge to go towards savings.
Not, not go towards wasteful spending.
Yeah.
If you can pull this up Rob,
I'm stepping on things up, I don't break anything.
Okay, it's fine.
Zooming a little bit on this if you could.
I'm not voting for the continuing resolution budget.
Cut, copy, paste Omnibus this week.
Omnibus means everything.
Why would I vote to continue to waste fraud
and abuse Doge has found?
Great question. We were told
the CR in December would get us to march when we would fight. Here we are in March, punting
again. Right? So that's kind of the challenge. But then Trump, he needs his vote. Of course,
he needs his vote for this to be taken place. Adam, your thoughts on this. So the reason
that I know this name Thomas Massey is do you know who talks about him constantly as her favorite person in Congress?
Candice Owens.
She always says that Thomas Massey is her favorite politician and that she would be the one person to advocate for him to run for president.
Now I don't think he has the cache or name recognition
to do anything like that.
But in my opinion, this is America first
versus America only.
Thomas Massey is of the Libertarian camp.
Something's going on in the waters in Kentucky.
Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Libertarian,
they want nothing to do
with the rest of the world.
They want zero foreign aid, they want zero intervention,
they wanna do the ostrich thing.
And there's a lot of people that agree with them,
much like Vinnie over here.
And I understand that, Libertarian, limited government,
limit government spending, stop getting embroiled
in foreign wars and doing anything with USAID or foreign aid.
The challenge with that is if you don't do stuff around the world, then someone's going to fill that void.
And that someone is going to be China, that someone is going to be Russia, that someone's going to be Iran in the Middle East. So there's also another history here. Do you know that just two
months ago in January, Thomas Massey was the only Republican
to not vote for Mike Johnson, Mike Johnson to be speaker of
the house. So there's history here. There's some strange
relationships here. But I think he's a necessary voice. He's definitely
a thorn in the side of Trump. He's the you know, Tea Party, Republican, Libertarian leaning guy.
I think there's a best way to describe Thomas Massey, okay, to, to, for, for people to understand
who he is. Thomas Massey is to Trump what Joe Manchin was to Biden. That's what Thomas Massey
is. So just think Thomas Massey is Joe Manchin, okay? That's what Thomas Massey is. So just think Thomas Massey is Joe Manchin.
That's what Thomas Massey is.
Now he's not a Democrat, far from it.
It's not like Joe Manchin was a, on the economy he agreed with a lot of stuff maybe conservatives
talk about.
But Thomas Massey, if you go and look at the comments on Trump's clip-rob of what Trump
said about Thomas Massey, you go to the comments
section below and you read what people said.
They're kind of on Massey's side.
A lot of them.
Okay, I'm just telling you, a lot of them are on Massey's side on what was said there.
Yeah, if you go to Truth or if you go to Twitter on X, you would see a lot of people.
Just go on the one that what he said.
The only thing that matters is his Constituency in Kentucky so and they clearly have re-elected the guy because I think he's been there since 2012
So he's on his and and the one thing we have to keep in mind and not forget
When it comes down to this issue is the fact that Massey kind of campaign for the Santas
is the fact that Massey kind of campaigned for DeSantis.
Okay? Massey's more DeSantis than he is Trump
because DeSantis is more conservative than Trump.
So this is the part that, you know,
who is more conservative than me?
Who is more MAGA than me?
Who is more America first than me?
Massey's a, you know, standalone, he stands his own, and sometimes he loses, sometimes he wins,
but the reality is his people are loyal to him.
And this is where Trump's got to find a way to work with him, and Massey's got to find
a way to work with him if they choose to.
But if he doesn't, the concept of a primary in him, in order for Trump's primary to carry
more weight, he needs to win.
The more he's winning winning the more he'll be
able to do that. You also need a good candidate sometimes just because you can primary somebody.
Massey is not a weak person that you can primary against. And what would their message be to go
against Massey? Because clearly they like the guy. So I don't know, I'm waiting to see whatever
Trump comes up with for a nickname. He's gonna be like, nasty Mas nasty, we'll see what happens. But his election is when? In
2026? So he's gonna be a thorn in the side. We will see. Anyways, all right, Yank, by the way,
once again, download the Manect app, join the circle. We have so many things we talk about
there that we don't talk about anywhere and we ask for issues. So right now when I'm looking at
the Manect circle, who was most active while we're going
through it, we have people that were responding, Joseph Todd, Beckyan, Stewart, DeVito, Hutchins,
a lot of people were active today.
Go to the community circle.
This is where all of you can communicate with each other throughout the entire month, not
waiting just on a podcast.
God bless everybody.
Take care.
Bye bye, bye bye.