PBD Podcast - Steven Crowder CRASHING Young Turks Podcast at SXSW | Ep. 243 | Part 2

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David and Steven Crowder will discuss: Steven Crowder CRASHING Young Turks Podcast at SXSW Trump vs DeSantis  Why Steven got banned from Youtube and Airbnb Jon Stewart's Stance On Gun Control FaceTime or Ask Patrick any questions on https://minnect.com/Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQLDownload the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4NText: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

if I wanted to sign a guy like you, okay? And during that time while you were talking to Dady wire. Yeah. And we sat down and I was one of the guys on the table. Where would I win to be able to attract a player like you? I can tell you one thing, there would have to be at least one percent upside. That's it.

At least one, I mean, that's just where you at least. If a sticking point is 0%, it's like about how about 50% pass a certain point in that profit? It's like 0% right? When you're talking about 0% upside, 0% upside, 0% upside. If you started with 1%, you'd be ahead of the game. So that's, so what you're saying is, hey, I come in, I like this up.

I don't want you to guarantee me 12 and a half year, two years and another, you know, up to six years, whatever, et cetera, et cetera. We're gonna just tell me, if I light it up, I can make 20. I can make 30. I can make 40. That's what I'm, that's your biggest thing if you could do that. Yeah. That's a starting point. It's at least one, it's, it is a sticking point. And the big thing is, if you also didn't say, by the way, you have to start changing your show so your monotimes, right? Yeah. That would be. That would be the, if you didn't do that, you would be ahead.

But most of the game. If I'm signing a guy like you up, you're doing Rumble and you're doing YouTube, right? And you're not really active on, you are active on Rumble and you're very active on YouTube. What you built over the years. The goal would be to develop an OTT monthly subscriber ship that's going to build value. And the more dollars you brought there, the

math is so easy to structure for a guy like you. Why would that be so complicated? Do you want someone I'm asking you like, I don't know, I realized if I said, if I said it up right now, I didn't realize. He said on the table, but I didn't say at the table. I do not consent. He's calling the moon like a sire. Drawing him like yogi bear. No, but I mean, so that's what you would think, right? And so seeing these offers come in and literally, and I'm not going to tell you about specifics,

but three, four offers come in and boom, boom, boom, cookie cutter, cookie cutter. And I'm like, do you even see the show? Like, we've got some startup company coming out where we're gonna do five libraries. I'm sorry, if that's your thing, that's fine. That's just not us. That's not what we do. But I don't, I don't even.

So why would you try to make us fit in that box? If you didn't say we're gonna, you know, 110% penalties on behalf of YouTube, on behalf of Facebook, on behalf of Spotify, on behalf of iTunes, and Apple, all this. If, sorry, that's not iTunes anymore, I just showed how old I am. Remember back when it used to be iTunes?

I could have known that we did. I could have known that we did. Apple music, all right. That and any percentage of upside, especially if let's say you had access to the numbers of, you know, mug club subscribers, and you knew you'd be making far more

than your initial offer, anyway. You'd be way ahead of the game. But that was a complete sticking, and not just to be clear. Yeah. It's never been about daily wire. It really is about the industry and how it operates, and I know what these terms should look like,

because I've been on the secular side of it for two, since I was 12 years old. I mean, I was having to be tutored on set. Yeah, but okay, so let's go a little bit deeper with that. So if that was the case, and I said, look, I don't give you a strike, I don't give you this, and I said, look, I don't give you a strike, I don't give you this, I don't give you, I don't give you, I don't give you

a demonetized on YouTube. Yeah, that's a part of the revenue that's coming in. If you're bringing an XYZ amount of subscribers to OTT, that's what's gonna be the measuring of your success. You drive the hell out of this? Five million bucks for every XYZ amount of subscribers you bring in. Hey Pat, I got this many active. Cut them and check for another five million. Yeah. the hell out of this? Five million bucks for every XYZ amount of subscribers you bring in.

Hey Pat, I got this many active. Cut them and check for another five million. Yeah, cut it. So every time it's like million, million, million, million, million, hey, we did this. Two second year, you made 22 million this year. Great, I hope you make 40 next year. There is a way to structure the math to do that.

I don't think that's like, well, not today. Advertiser, dependent too. Like there's some role that advertisers play. We love the partnerships that we have. We're very, very picky about it. We don't just do ads the same way people do. We do these really funny commercials that get tons of plays on clips, channels on YouTube.

But it basically makes it. And Elon even said this. He's like, you got to go away from the advertiser. 100% exactly. He's talking about Twitter. Exactly. But you can't depend on the big thing. They dictate the same thing.

And I love the fact that he's doing that. Because you know, the whole $750 million one of them and dropped that was like, what are we gonna do with this if we lose this? Well, if you do, you kind of have to answer to them. The other day I was watching Fox and I saw an ad on Fox. It was an H. Gordon lady. No, no, it was an H. I. It was a self-liberated catheter.

Yeah, yeah. I'm bailed of A.N. Someone that adds, I saw him like, interesting. You're now okay with this ad and you're doing that. You did the show with trends like nine months ago. I don't okay with this ad and you're doing that. You did the show with trends like nine months ago. I don't know if you remember. Yes, they do.

Okay, but if you go to OTT model to drive and the multiple there is based on how many paid subscribers and your job is to create constant creative content shows to say you're only gonna get this on the OTT. Yeah. And that's how you get compensated. Well, for example, some of the people who we're talking with right now, like some of them, we know they're not going to be generating a bunch of paying subscribers. And they also don't necessarily generate like YouTube revenue. Some of these people have, you know, history of

background, like really large, you know, main network shows, they've been part of comedy shows, so these comedy specials. And so when we bring them in, we say, okay, what is it that you want to do? What is it that you bring to the table? And then you find that intersect, and you see where you can work together. We know not everyone is going to have the paying subscribership that we have, but here's the thing.

We've always focused on trying to add value. That's why we've reduced the price by $10, which people would say is absolutely crazy while adding content, because we've made the numbers work from our end. We want our viewers. And particularly the people who we know, felt like they were left out in the cold who paid and like,

well, I signed up here and you're leaving after four months, they're going to get a bunch of time free. True North is the audience what they want and how you serve them. And when you start with that, you will then look at the people who you are working with talent and say, how do you serve the audience? Not how do you serve a corporate overlord? Not that there's anything wrong with corporations. Not how do you serve the audience? Not how do you serve a corporate overlord? Not that there's anything wrong with corporations.

Not how do you serve these people on the second floor, but how do you serve the audience? And the beauty with the audience is it's more than half of America. It's more than half of the United States of America. And that is not reflected. When we talk about these numbers, look, that's not two, that's not three million. Certainly not at, you know, 45 seconds to a minute and a half a pop.

That is, these people are basically, they're out there and there's nothing for them. Yeah. And I was one of those guys. Yeah, and, you know, the way you're describing it when I, so, so, Fox's Republican, I'm more conservative. Okay, daily wires this and, you know, those guys are this or those guys are this, the way I'm seeing it is, you know,

on the conservative side, Republican side, it's like different denominations of Christianity You got Presbyterian 7-day LDS Catholic, you know pick them right whatever you may be You're pretty much following the same commandments. You may be off 90% your profit is a different person you you know You're your NIV is the Bible you follow you follow book of Moroni or you follow this But the structure of what you believe in, more or less is the same. The challenge then becomes,

if there's a massive infighting and where you are fighting for the same cause, but it's going up against each other, that could be problematic because then the cause of wanting to inject or sell the values and principles that you believe in, now it's kind of confused because daily world, what do you mean?

Are these guys supposed to be enemies? Are those guys supposed to be enemies? So that's the only challenge where some viewers will have. But to say, I don't understand that. By the way, I do believe you bring an audience to daily world that they don't have. I do believe that.

I do believe that Jordan Peterson brings an audience that they don't have. I do believe Praker brings a different audience that they may not have. I do believe Prager brings a different audience that they may not have. I do believe Candace brings a different audience, and definitely Shapiro is the guy that brings a different audience. So it's not like the people that already listened to daily

who are all of them subscribed to you. There's a different audience that can be called a value. There's a huge difference. And I think it's also important to note, this is the first time there's ever been from me, any kind of infighting. People have asked about, we don't even talk about the numbers on our show.

I don't talk about it because I just feel dirty. I want the content to speak for itself. It's very, very rare. There are a lot of things that have happened behind the scenes for years that we just don't talk about in dealing with this industry. It is the one and soul time, and that's because, you know, Joe was about to jump in.

You have state borders and you have national borders. So for example, when you talk about Christianity, yeah, there are state borders. That's maybe your Presbyterian or maybe your Methodist. But then you do have national borders. So for example, when you talk about Christianity, yeah, there are state borders, that's maybe your Presbyterian or maybe your Methodist, but then you do have national borders, right? And that's where you would say you have Catholic and you have Protestant.

That would be considered and sure we share a lot of the same values. But certainly, let's just go on the Protestant side. If you get into that territory where you say, okay, yeah, I'm a Protestant, I'm a Bible believing that I'm a born again Christian, but I don't believe hell exists. That's a national border.

We no longer share the same faith because Jesus came to save us from the fires of hell. Now you are in a different religion. And so if our entire reason for being at least us is to fight big tech and fight this Leviathan that we have seen for so long, you know, what we have talked about always, right, it's been flipping the bird

to the mainstream, not just media, but entertainment industrial complex and big tech. Well, we can't compromise that because now we're beyond national borders. And everyone else also would espouse those saying values and people think that you have a sponsorship to do. No, I don't. I'm just joking about the same.

Well, no, instead of looking at it as infighting because you're right, the church, a lot of times, can be its own worst enemy. Look at it as hopefully iron sharpening iron, right? So we're trying to sharpen the movement and push it forward in the right direction. And we never picked a fight with daily wire. And we haven't talked about this.

When we have a massive platform to do, we do so for a while. We wasn't picking a fight. You picked a fight, though. But there's nothing wrong with, well, but a kind of a whole sort of fight. So think about what we did in that first video. Yeah. We said, these are the terms in the industry and these just cannot work this way. We're going to go and do something different.

Yeah. That's it. That's what we did. Now, if people are going to suppose, okay, this is the daily wire. And we didn't come out with personal attacks or anything like that. I'm not saying that they did. I'm just saying that wasn't like infighting. That's not me saying like, I'm a Protestant.

You're a Catholic and you guys are completely off base. I can't believe it. You can't go have fellowship with these guys because they believe if you don't do the sacraments that you're not saved. How can you possibly believe that? That's not what happened, right? Our goal was to say, hey, for us to survive, for this thing to be real,

and not just talking into a camera and hopefully making some money, we have to do better. We have to do better as a movement, otherwise we will go away. Eventually it will just end. Look, you guys have a choice. People out there have a choice, right? You have a choice.

Do you want a movement that includes people who are not beholden to Big Tech, who do not punish their creators on behalf of Big Tech, who do not say you have to be monetized? By the way, we will have content creators who are monetized on YouTube. That's the thing. Some people have come to us and said,

well, we want to. I go, great, do it how you want to do it, but we have some people who come in and say, I really want to be less dependent on YouTube. And that gets me more excited. Do you want a movement that exclusively is beholden to cocktail parties with big tech or also allow some room for some rebels

with a cause, flip on the bird, being a little bit rough around the edges. Do you want all of these things? It depends what the vision is though, right? If the vision, like my division, I'm not talking about a company though, at that point, I'm talking about a movement at that point. Holy get it, but again, individually, you have a vision collectively.

We have a vision, right? My vision individually may be different than the vision of the company. Those are two different things. Let me ask you as a talent. Forget about me being a company guy. Assume I was just a YouTuber. I have a vision with what I want to do with the show, right? The vision for me, the problem is to talk to people who disagree with me, not to talk to people who agree with me.

That's mine. So for me, if the vision is to convert and persuade, I mean, you know, cost of discipleship is the first book you read when you become a gay, you don't say, Christian 101, okay. Did you say when you become a gay? No, Christ. You read the first book which is cost of discipleship. Yeah, and you read me a Christianity. Sure, Chris. He reads the first book, which is Cost of Disciples. Yeah, and you read me a Christianity. Sure, I'm sorry. Those are two of the books you read. And one of the, the whole reason why we're doing this pvd is to go out there and, you know, decide.

Okay. So if our job is to do that and it's door knock and it's talking to them, we kind of got to be places where people who disagree with us are. So for example, I completely agree. Yeah, so if you go only on rumble, like, Chris is a, we had Chris at the house, you and I were with them till I don't know what,

and by the way, the conversation we had with Chris, I said, Chris, make a public offer to Joe Rogan. That's the whole time when he, people were worried about Spotify being cast and make a public offer. The next day, he made a public offer. It was a great move for them. Yeah, so what I'm saying is,

I said, if you're gonna really do what, if your vision is to sell the company and be a billionaire, great, you got to nitch, go get all the conservatives and do what you wanna do. But if your vision is to truly make an impact and persuade and convert, you gotta mix it up. You gotta take a different approach.

So that's why I think YouTube is a place where someone, I think about how many people want to do. No, I agree, but I think here's the thing. Here's the thing, because this is what's also like, where would you be without YouTube? Look, I was there before anyone at Daily Wire or Blaze or fuck, when I was at Fox News, I would upload, this point had 100,000 subscribers,

maybe 80,000 subscribers. And I remember saying, hey, can I upload to my hits, like I would appear on Red Eye or Hannity or, you know, I'd judge Janine. It's like, can I upload these to my YouTube channel because you know, my people on YouTube, there's no way to reach them. It's not like social media back then.

They didn't even have community posts. So the only way I can reach them is if I let them know through a YouTube video, it's like, sure, then legal took them down. Cause they said we think this YouTube thing is a fat. So no one understands that better than I do in reaching new people. And I would never willingly just go,

let's say to Rumble or a right wing echo chamber. But this is something that we have designed from the ground up where we've said, look, the free content is available. We will reach as many people as humanly possible, provided we do not have to forbid ourselves from speaking the truth. And we're able to do that without being beholden financially.

This is the model. This is why we've been so fortunate. We're not beholden financially to Big Tech because of Muck Club, because of subscribers. So if we are ever taken off of YouTube, it's because they decide that we have to go. Not because we decide. No, but that's fine. That's all good there. And by the way, you know, for people that are watching this, one of the all-time, most

famous memes is you. If you want to pull up, if you just type in Stephen Crowder meme, I think that's used where, everywhere, everybody uses that. I mean, and they probably don't even know what this means. This meme is literally used by the change from the left, right, middle, it doesn't matter. It says, you change my mind, right? So that's the part.

That's right, that's the thing. Can I ask you to bring up my favorite one? Tell me, okay. Type in, change my mind meme. I think it's a Stevie Wonder. Oh god, my mind meme. Have you seen it? No, I think I know where, I just have an idea.

Cause it's so basically, just let me set it up for people. If the meme is, is it there? Is it top left? Top left. Can't add it here. I knew that was going to give it away. Somebody do that. And I have a hand. He and it away. Somebody did that. And I was like, he and myself laughing.

Oh my God. But to me, this takes guts. Like when you were saying, I get nervous, a lot of people would be scared shitless sitting there, going to universities that you go, you got a lot of all that. So you got a lot of courage. You're very necessary.

Try doing it on sixth street at South by Southwest. It's not just on University. That's what I'm saying. To do that, that's the ultimate in this world to face that. So who does you for doing that? Anyways, love you very. I ask you a lot of a different question. I appreciate you for being a sport and taking it. You know, some of the stuff was probably, you know, just so people know, you guys had no clue what we're going to ask you. No, I didn't know you're starting life.

Yeah, I was looking at that sign. Hey, hey, hey, that's a life on air. You're very nice. That's why he's rich because he saves money. We're not saying that. Yeah, I'm not saying like he's nice. He got a lot of good qualities, but that's a dick move. That's what I'm doing.

Live on air neon sign. Of course everyone in this chair is looking for You're right Rob Rob just sent me a text same. I forgot one of the sponsors my apologies. We have to do that the one hour mark Our next sponsor is K. Y. Jelly I thought it was gonna be land of lakes butter That's so fucking fun Oh my God. I see you have in Pat just really fast.

And I know, you know, the smoke is kind of clear. Have you guys have any conversations with Jeremy or Ben or any of these guys for, have you spoken to them? I'm at a lot of, I would say this like a, so Ben and I have known it, like I've always said, we've been friendly for a very long time, right? You've heard me say that, I was and I really wish to, you know,

very different, like, it's not like Jeremy and I have had that kind of a relationship. Jordan Peterson, yes. Andrew Klaven, yes. And there are a lot of people who work there behind the scenes who are fantastic people who absolutely, it's one thing to have disagreements on a vision for a company. But yeah, I've had a lot of conversations with people there behind the scenes. But no, as far as business dealings, no.

And there would be nothing better, for example, than to do. Let's say you were talking about figuratively, you started network. There'd be nothing better than to say, hey, how about this? How about there's a cross promo link where someone who's in the mug club gets a discount for your network, and they get a discount for our network. Sure, we get less money per subscriber,

but you hit a critical mass point, and you're not going to have people using it to steal content. I would do that with any conservative network out there. The issue is none of them would do it with any, not just me, any other conservative. You won't see people do that because it's a this measuring content. I got. I got sponsored to go very, very much. Okay. No,

I just got we literally just did our sponsor, we K wide, that was that was just a quick shot that we have for them. Okay. So is that actually what it was? No, no, Joe, Joe, I can't try. I was I know what to do with this. All right. Did you read the No, Joe. I can't try. I was like, I was like, I'm gonna cry. No, it's a deal with this.

All right. Did you read the Sanctus' book? No. Okay. I could have lied, right? That's one of those things where all these post-sciletes were. Yes, I did.

No, I've heard it cover. I wrote a paper on it. He wrote a book. Did you read it? Of course. Did you watch a CPAC? Did you watch CPAC and Trump's speech? Are you following any of that stuff?

What's going on? It's funny, it's funny you mentioned CPAC. I am seeing the main ballroom at CPAC for hours and a dozen years ago. I did it four years in a row. Or no, I did it three years then skipped a year because I got horrible food poisoning and did it another year.

And I got called into the second floor at Fox, the brass actually. Every time I would do CPAC, I'd get in trouble for something. And like one time I went out when Keith Oberman was fired, I literally went out and full on Keith Oberman makeup as a DJ, giving her my business card, and I was like introducing Keith Oberman. Keith Oberman, I went out and I was just,

the door's closed, and he's like, super funny. No, he's super loud. He's got it. Not at all. Yeah. Gentle. Yes, so hard.

And then one time I got called in because they had a joke about, they, someone said that I'd made a joke about, about raping Ashley Judd, which wasn't true at all. I made a comment about her saying that purchasing Apple products is akin to raping the earth. Yeah. But I would constantly have to get brought in. And they would say, well, you can't even comment on that

because it's a third rail and I would do a joke. So I was like, you know what, I don't want to do it anymore. Oh, there you go. That's an old one. But I actually, at CPAC went out as Keith Omen on the main stage, selling Maybelline, and then I got in trouble with Maybelline. You see? But when you get called up into the principles office,

the Fox on the second floor. All the time. Walk me through what happens. They're like, all right, Stephen, this is it. The fourth time this week. Yes. What did they say to you? They would just, here's the thing I will say too.

There were some great people there, but they wouldn't ever tell me what I could not say. They would just encourage me with things that would do well with the office. You know what they would ask me to do? Things like put on a suit, put on a tie. You know, one, this is actually one. So it's a comedian, right?

For the Philistiller quote, I didn't learn comedy when I learned how to write, I learned comedy when I learned how to edit. Exactly. Widdell it down, widdell it down, widdell it comedy when I learned how to write, I learned comedy when I learned how to edit. Right, is whittle it down, whittle it down, whittle it down. And so I would go and I had a debate segment with Alicia Menendez, a Senator Bob Menendez's daughter, every Sunday, for a long time. And as opposed to the goal on cable news is to run the clock out, use up as much time

saying, basically repeating the same points so that your opponent doesn't have time to speak, coming from a stand-up back and then coming from, you know, at that point, you know, even the only sports ever done are combat sports like Jujitsu and stuff, not at a high level. But again, in my head, it's basically comedy and something like Jujitsu or Judo where you kind of, okay, brevity is a soul of wit. I would be really, really short. So like one point, I think she said, oh no, this was Alan Combs, I think, who was a super sweet guy.

So like, oh, well, you know, Steven, where did you go to school when I was making a point? Where did you go to school? Where did you degree? And rather than just going, oh, no, I just said, never made it out of grade school, what's your point? Yeah. And then gave him two minutes.

No, well, I didn't mean, you know, there are a lot of people who are smart who maybe don't go to school. And then I get calling like, well, you know what? The thing is, when you do that, when you just answer in like five word sentences, it throws off the flow for other people.

That's the point. That's the point. Giving them the ball because they've said nothing. So that was one where I was sitting there going like, I'm just not going to run out the clock and just spew a bunch of stuff to sound ultimately trying to sound or to, I'd sound inarticulate. But that was one where I was like, this may not be the right, you know. But it doesn't sound like they're critiquing anything. They're kind of giving. It's almost like you've seen the movie knocked up when they was like, mm, this may not be the right, you know. But it doesn't sound like they're critiquing anything. They're kind of giving, it's almost like you've seen

the movie knocked up when they're like, when the girl's character comes in, they're like, we're not saying you need to lose weight. Just kind of tying it up. There was one little thing. They paired me up with a producer to do a comedy show that wants you like, well, maybe there's something to this.

And the guy was a super sweet guy, super old. I mean, like in his 80s. And he will like ask me the question, like, what do you think of Steve Allen? You know, that kind of thing? Yeah. Or Mike Douglas, you know, and I remember, basically kind of pitching what it is that we do now.

And they wanted to have a monkey on the show, like on the set. A real monkey. A real monkey. Which I was like, I mean, all right. But I don't feel like you're here in the rest. But like, what about this monkey? You'll be great. It's like, what if we, can I was like, I mean, all right, but I don't feel like you're in the rest of the way. Like, what about this monkey? You'll be great. What if we can we get a roller skating monkey? And I was going to be like, okay, we're just we're on two different wave

lengths. And that's why what we talk was like, all I'm saying is, you need to have multiple wavelengths, not just one, because it's always one on our side of the spectrum, unfortunately, and it makes makes a lot of people out there feel disenchanted. I mean, do you have any idea how lonely I felt when you'd sit there and they go, well, conservatives don't want something like change my mind.

I think I do. Well, conservatives don't watch comedy. Like, I kind of think I do. Like, I, you know, conservative doesn't work. Conservatives don't want books that aren't Doomsday Threes. I'm like, I kind of want like productive solutions and ways to move forward. And you go, oh, I wanna go out and create this show,

but is there anyone out there like me? Like is the only way to create content in this movement for a 70 plus year old demo that's straight laced and red meat? And there's nothing wrong with that, but it's really scary when you say, okay, can it only be that? So there was a big step out in faith at one point,

and I said, this is the story of the show. I took it, it was on radio for three hours. And I didn't want to do a radio show, but they said, hey, Bill Bennett takes off, he has a fill-in host on Fridays. So it's a morning drive nine to, or six to nine. And I said, well, okay, that's a prime slot on radio. And it's once a week for three hours.

That's great. And the people who were syndicating the show said, yeah, we, technically with our contract, we can do it. So I said, okay, I'm gonna be based out of a station in Detroit and don't pay me anything, do a rev split. But, and at this point, I didn't have a show, my own show.

But, let me own the rights to do podcasts, which they thought that's a fad, a lot of people. And then it started getting syndicated to more and more markets this is a while year. This would have been 2013, 2014. Some like that. That's post, before that I had just been, I had been a contributor to Fox News.

I had been a, you know, unstand up and acting, but at this point I said, I'm going to create a show that I want. And what happened, and the reason we ended up doing so many bizarre sketches, is AM Radio has 16 minutes of ad space. But the problem is when you're streaming it on YouTube,

which at that point, no conservative was doing, like they don't wanna hear about Ipsilani Chevrolet. So I would just go, uh, uh, uh, uh, the dating advice with Bill Cosby, we create a stinger in and out, and I'm like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

Michael Jackson Redux in every single song was about like six year old boys, we're like, uh, uh, we're gonna do the first recipient of a P9L implant, like, and I would do 16 minutes of sketches times three. We just found all this stuff, by the way, in a drop-boss town, we didn't realize we had. No, over to our 600 old commercials on AMRAID.

You've never launched this? Never, never. We reused some of them, like Perry Matheson is a character that we would do fake. We got in trouble with the FCC, you know that, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, We were like, we have a, you know, at that point, we have a Lena Dunham warning, and it's just some fat joke, right? Yeah. But then they say, hey, you know, like,

this is a legal, like, the specific sounds, like, signifying, this is highly illegal. What? I was like, well, okay, I'll stop that. But then they realized it was only online. And they realized that at that point, people were listening to it on audio, like, as a podcast, like, so they don't, okay, at this point,

they don't think it's an emergency, so fine, but we were getting into trouble all the time. And at that point in time, I remember it was before, we launched Muck Club, we were like, well, you know, we only had like 12,000 people who would tune in, because it was a once a week, three hours, I don't know if there's gonna work, but let's, and then 12,000 became 50,000,

that became a couple hundred thousand, that became into the millions, but we just found these, it was over 600 audio commercials that we only ever ran once. A lot of them for maybe 12,000 people aside from the radio honor. It's crazy. Like 200 sketches and opens and like all these things.

So we just got all this content sitting there that we're like, that's a lot of good stuff. It is. It is. It's a lot of good stuff. It is. It is a lot of good stuff.

It is a lot of good stuff. It is a lot of good stuff. It is a lot of good stuff. It is a lot of good stuff. It is a lot of good stuff. It is a lot of good stuff. Yeah, I want to see some of this. Yeah, you again, put the link below. If you want to learn more about it, mug club forever. A lot of us kind of, a lot of us kind of that comes back. That's my club. Yeah, same way. Both links below for them to have a Robert, if he can do that as a reminder,

go back to. So the Santa's Trump, okay, curious to know where you're at with this, okay? The Santa's Trump were, you're seeing, why are you laughing? You're, it's just, because this question right now is the third rail in the Republican party

I'm fine with 60% to 20% right CPAC whatever then what were the numbers that you saw you said? 62% But that's within CPAC right only within CPAC right just now called T pack Hmm for Trump. Yeah, oh So what where are you CPAC, right? Which is now called TPEC for Trump. Yeah. So where are you with this? Where are you with this?

Here's the thing. I like qualities from both can. I know this is going to sound like, but I'm certainly not a fence sitter. The truth is, I've never been in the business of endorsing candidates. Obviously, once it gets to a general, people know where I line up.

But I'll have people all the time asking me, like, hey, can you endorse this, can't I? I don't think you really know what it is that I do. As a matter of fact, even with guests, we'll have people tune out if we have a guest on. Because people want to hear kind of what we're saying about a topic unless it's a real needle mover. We've had that with who you would,

people you would think. What an interesting thing you just said. Which I feel, I hate, because it's like, I want, hey, hey, it ends with this person, people like, this is boring, because we just came from, you know, me being water-bored and having made it Jesus and Santa,

a remastered in jail, whatever the hell it is. I would vote for any of these people in a national election, of course. Like, I would, I really hope it's just not a super bloody primary. People ask me what I like about Donald Trump. I like the fact that he went off and did it on his own. I like the fact that he's an outsider.

I don't like the fact that sometimes he, what it is with Donald Trump is, even if he thinks he might be wrong, let's assume, and that's a big if, he would never admit it. So I had to dig in his heels. So some like with the vaccine, you know, it was an issue, and then really, you saw with the audience,

when he was encouraging younger people. That was something that I had a real problem with. But I like him a lot, and I think he certainly has been probably the most effective president in my lifetime. Ron DeSantis, I like that he has really been consistent as a governor. He's done great things for Florida. Again, I don't live here, I like that he has really been consistent as a governor. He's done great things for Florida.

Again, I don't live here, but everything that we've read and covered, he seems to be a management remarkably consistent. What I don't like is that he's not a super wealthy guy, and so you are always concerned if to turn the establishment wants him because they feel like they can get their hooks in here, right?

You always, oh, I'm not saying he does, but that's the concern. So there are qualities that I like with both of them. I really hope it's not as childish, although from a comedy, oh my god, it's gold. Because I mean, think about Steve, he's so... We're at the Shakhtabodeus, round the show. Run up to the focus group, get Frank Litz with your sneakers

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that was being hurt was people's feelings, not the country. I agree. Yeah. Right now, shit isn't messed up right now. Oh, of course. Well, the choice now is between Trump and Biden. That's that comparison. Right now what we're saying is like, if you have Donald Trump in the office or if you have

Ron DeSantis, or maybe some third person that we don't really know about as much yet, you're gonna have a much better situation than you do right now. So it's gonna be fantastic. I think the issue with Trump or any other, like we've got to get out of the Messiah worship

kind of mentality and politics in general. No one is coming to save you. Because nobody is perfect. We're all human beings. We're all flawed. Donald Trump was incredibly effective, highly effective, hilarious, and well, the stuff that he did was like, what do you think I would have heard?

Bob, yeah. He's talking. How would you tell others is that? Yeah, exactly. When he's like, I heard people say this and he could just interject whatever he wanted to say about somebody but couldn't actually say it about somebody on that debate stream.

I don't think so at that point. When he's, I just remember saying, like did he just say his dad killed Jaff Kahn? What? How did he just say it? No, about Ted Cruz. Yeah, about Ted Cruz. But we should want the very best candidate possible

to be the Republican nominee. That's what we should want. We don't need to be bloodied candidate that's just been completely destroyed. And then here come the Democrats again, with somebody who's gonna kill the country. We don't need a bloodied candidate that's just been completely destroyed and then here come the Democrats again, with somebody who's gonna kill the country. Yeah, I mean, look, we've gotta have bigger goals than just getting our guy into office.

But you gotta be the right person. You disagree with Trump when he says, I alone can fix it. Is that what you're saying? You're saying that you don't wanna have a degree with anybody who says, I alone can fix it. Yeah, I don't think anybody alone can fix this

because Donald Trump was in the office for four, really three years, right? No, but he was in there for three years and then he had to deal with the pandemic. He was making a lot of positive changes. He really had somebody else who will have to carry the torch. He's got a window of eight years and then the establishment will come roaring back.

The machine will come back. You've got to be able to hand the torch off to the next guy. Keep it going for the next eight years. Not one person can do this. If the Santas does get elected, let's just go hypothetical here. Do you think that it would be a negative that he is, quote unquote, establishment. I don't think he's establishment.

No, my concern is that he could end up owing the estate. That's my point. Is that like he's not at the office. The same thing that makes Donald Trump impossible to work with. It's the same reason it makes him almost establishment. Proof to some degree. He had a lot of people in his cabinet who you would consider sort of swamp creature, right?

But as far as them being able to tell him, he'd be like, go screw your sales, I know better, right? He doesn't care. So I'm not saying DeSantis is, it's a concern that he would be more prone to being influenced by it, which it could be completely ill-founded and I'm not super concerned about.

I'm just trying to express concerns with both of them. I don't like the quote, you know, the old quote, whatever it kills you makes you stronger. I mean, what happens if you end up being like a quad amputee? Like, no, a quadriplegia, you're not that is true. What if I kill or set aside from Trump? Doesn't every candidate kind of have to owe somebody some money? Like how many billionaire candidates have there been?

That's why I always find, yeah, exactly. It was one of the people said. I loved him spending a ton of his own money and losing. Yeah, that was fantastic. Oh, but he got mad because we had a guy dressed as Bloomberg come in where he was doing, like he was dancing, we did some brother thing.

Yeah, we said it and then someone came and said, did somebody say Bloomberg? And he's like, yeah, he started doing the worm and like put down a cardboard box. So funny. And that guy is so humorless, his people got mad. Like we really didn't like the depiction of him. I'm like, yeah, you can go screw yourself.

I'm like, I'm a man. As a comedian, you must have loved Trump's whole thing. Like, now Mike wants to bring a platform on stage. It's still, because like, I was asking for it. It's like, and he never asked for it. I'm hearing you, and you nailed it, you're like, I miss the funny, like the fun.

Oh, I know, I did. It was a lot of fun. It's just, okay. I would get on Twitter and be like, what did he say today? Yeah, because now it's just okay, Biden fell down the stairs and he has no idea where he is or what he's saying. He's shaking hands there.

That's funny, but Trump was just volatile and he would just say what the best is when he would go off-tell it proper. Cause you know when he's reading and he's reading, but that when he's just like, when he's talking shit, he's going right at you. Yeah, and I did a series actually, which I think is why Trump has never been on the show. I think it was a, it was a Trump talk series in 2015.

Trump got offended. No way. Yeah, but I was like, of course, good. And it was just a series of like, Trump on China, Trump on, you know, the border. And what, and very well, he would come back to say, and now other people have kind of noticed it. Like the theme was, he would say, look, Chad is a crepe, and I would never say that, that's what so many people tell me. They tell me. I would never say that.

They say, oh, it's a whole of crepe. And I say, you step, say that, they say, that's what it is. I say, okay. Right, that's what he would tell you. Great, and he just purged it. And we would do this like back then. That was, and now everyone kind of talks about it,

but it is true. Like when he wants that comfortable deniability, it was like people say that. And I just talk to him. The same thing, not a single repal run right now. Yeah, right. I'll never say me, Paul Ron. People are saying me, Paul Ron, and I would never do that.

I would never do it. Other people, I'd push that stuff. Yeah, people. It's just like what Chris Rock just did with the Wilson. He's like, everybody called him a bitch. This person called him a bitch, but the Wilson. He's a bitch. He's a bitch.

I never called him a bitch. He's like like a 10,000 time. Yeah, it was hilarious. But this is back, obviously pre like when we had, that was me and my dad, you, me and my dad. Yeah, we have a better Trump thing now. So I mean, that's what I mean, you just let me play the audio. Oh gosh, I hate how old. This is 2015.

20. That's a while ago, yeah. I would never try and do anything that could. I'd wait better. Well, my voice was shot. Not positive. Cause I just did Bernie. But Bernie Polk.

Come back a little bit. Yeah, I'm going to be a little bit more would wait better. What my voice was shot not cuz I just did Bernie Come across the border they're raping they're killing and frankly frankly Truthfully we have an obesity epidemic. We've got a problem My Bernie was always Gilbert white stuck talking about social and be Son of a bitch What's up with you capital pieces of shit and It was just people like why did you sound like Gilbert God for it because it's funnier. It's hilarious I just enjoy it more. Yeah, it makes me look at the exolops Oh, that was a parody of a scene from misery. Oh, it's

Hosting this program on Thursday. I'll hold your feet. I won't be talking to who's the, who's the, who's the, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's just, that's the show. That's like one that was buried in the show.

Yeah, that's a random. But we have some that have millions of plays where we, you know, because our audience, no one was paying attention to Bernie Sanders. This is a good example. We're talking about sort of the establishment. People in conservative media, they're all talking about Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton. I remember saying, look, Hillary Clinton's a coronation.

Bernie Sanders is the movement candidate. And we would actually see a lot of people. We have so much data, right? When you have billions and billions of plays, not only just on YouTube, but then billions on all these other platforms, you can sort of cross reference and go, okay, we can actually see a significant amount of Bernie Sanders people would come over to Donald Trump

just because of the anti-establishment. Yeah, sort of Russell Brand a little bit, right, where he was a self-eviled socialist, and I don't know how he would describe himself now, but he sees the threat of big tech. Like he certainly would be one of those guys who would have been a Bernie supporter, who now sees the problem,

whereas this was always our audience. Same with Rogan, by the way. Yeah, that's going back to a point you made. That's why Russell said that's why Rumble exists. I mean, you were talking about the people that are on Rumble right now. We'll ask yourself why. What did Rumble set out to do that was different? They said, look, we want people to actually be able to speak freely on this platform.

Right? And they're creating something that's a little bit different over there. And he came out and said, the reason they exist is because YouTube had started to kind of give everybody the, you couldn't say anything. You basically were just choked out. If you were anything close to being conservative, right? And so these guys have come on and said, okay, well, we're going to let everybody come over here. The first people to jump ship are going to be the conservatives, but watch, if those guys

are successful, they will continue to get more people like you said, they have to diversify. Everybody starts out with cat videos first. Yeah. All right, Patrick, we can't always be bold. Isn't that telling, though? You're right. All of it, it's open to everyone. Yeah, right?

It's open to everyone. And that's a liberal say, I won't do that. I want it closed to half, right? That's the thing. You think Rumble is saying you can't come here for your liberal? Of course not. Well, but they've got a guy like Russell Brandt, and they've got a guy like Joe Rogan saying it.

So the movement that we were talking about earlier, like you're starting to see this tipping point. Maybe it was your question. You know what he's started? You are starting to see people that are going there saying, hey, you're right. He's investing a lot of money into different people. By the way, what are you noticing the ad sense

on the way their platform is rumbled against YouTube, comparing the two? I don't know because I haven't, I would be unfair for me to say because I've been demonetized for so long on YouTube. So I don't really know what the industry is like there. Not only am I not allowed to be monetized on YouTube, I'm not allowed to run ads through AdSense.

So to give you an idea, other people can run the exact same ad. Like an unruly, we've done A, B testing. We've done A, B testing. Where we try and run an ad, like let's just say it's a clip, right where you run it as a pre-roll or something, say no, absolutely not. And then we've had other people with AdSense accounts

who run it and it gets accepted. So it's not content-based, it's us-based. Peak to peak. If you were to say, you know, when I used to get a million views, I would make $7,800 on YouTube. I'm just making some number up. When I get a million views on Rumble, I make XYZ. Have you put those two together,

you're numbers gone. I'm assuming you've done that to see how they match up. I'm advertising. So that would be more of a Gerald question again, because the rates change so dramatically that YouTube at peak was very different. Like, I think I've been a partner since 2008 and I was even around with the MCNs

like I don't know if you would be like makers and stuff like that. Of course, of course. So the rates would change dramatically. So it's almost like you don't really have a comparison. I will say the numbers have been, I think actually better on a pound for pound basis. But we often don't really seek to monetize the videos

because we'd rather people feel like they don't have to watch that and get the show and subscribe. So you don't even monetize on Rumble right now. You're not turning it on. I think it's on for some of them, but we don't spend on it. It's such a small portion of our revenue model, right? That's not really how our model works. We forewent a couple million dollars a year from YouTube when we said, okay, keep it,

if you want to demonetize this because it was, you know, the care it was dangled or just don't talk about these things. So, nope, keep as demonetized, just don't remove our channel and we'll find a way. Now you've questioned, if not making any money on YouTube and Rumble is in a money maker for you, is it all the mug club? All sponsors.

All sponsors. And because the viewership is so large that one sponsorship spot is worth, you know, four or five on another show. So, KY is one of the, they're knocking large that one sponsorship spot is worth, you know, four or five on another show. So K.Y. is one of the. Yeah. They're knocking down that one for some. We have the Astroglyte. It's a non-compensa.

So Steven, so people in the mud club, where they, like, on March 20th, correct? That you guys are coming back on. Where were you guys are launching on, like, on your website mainly for the members? So this is, yeah, it's not entirely finalized, but here's, like, we are launching Lado's credit at Lado's credit.com slash mug club. We're still finalizing exactly who is going to do the back end. We're pretty close. But regardless, people will be able to go there, watch the free show. Yeah. We always have and then continue to watch the premium show in the additional content. It's on the website. Yeah. On the website, $89 and for the whole year. Yeah.

Yeah. And actually, and if and if you are you are in my club forever.com where you subscribe, we're gonna send you a code where you actually get a good few extra free months. Got you. You get an answer. That's something too again, because it's like, nothing breaks my heart more than people saying, hey, you know, I didn't get a mug or,

hey, you know, I subscribe at this point in time when it's like, you know, at some point, right, you end a contract, at some point you have to. Like, but I hate that you paid and you only got half a year. But since we can't access their personal information, like we can't know. So it's like, you have to reach out to us, and we'll send you this code.

It'll largely be on our system where we do write by you and give you some extra a few months for free. That's fantastic. Well, that's what I was wishing that I hadn't taken the CEO job was when we were getting to the end of the contract, and we had no idea who our subscribers were.

And we've talked about this and it was just like, okay, how do we go and build this? We have no way of getting in touch with you guys. We have a master email list, but that's every single person who's ever signed up for the newsletter through the website or through. What is that number's gotta be in the million? It's a lot of people, right?

But that's the thing, it's not specific. And so if you send it, a lot of in-maybe it goes to junk mail because you're sending ads to them potentially and in Previous partnerships and it's like man, like that that's just a feeling of like we've got to be able to capture these people So that's where my club is so you brought out. I don't know if that was going out the audience But yeah, that's the number of us three months Pre-demonetization right we can use water literally a thousand zoom in a little bit. Go ahead So three months 130,000 was that average from favorite pre-demonet. And that's with just the main channel that doesn't require a bit.

It's about 62 million plays, which is what we're getting an average in a month between 50 and 70 million. And of course, that number went down because you don't get browser- 50 to 70 million views per month. Yeah. Wow. But an average of over 100,000 new subscribers, every month- Every month.

And then if you go to demonetization, so even we were demonetized, all right, we still had about 58 million, so the numbers didn't quite take, because they took a while to get us out of the browser search, 46,000. So almost to the letter, a tenth, every single time, they remanetized us again, accidentally,

someone got fired at it. Wait, wait, wait. This is in 90 days you got how many subs? 46,000. Versus 430? Yep, yeah. That's crazy. Immediately.

And then we have another. Did your show stop, did you change any of this schedule? No, that's the thing. Nothing. Basically they just turn you off or turn you off. Turn you off and then we have another one. But they're just doing that. After that we're again.

Remanetized, right? And then this was, oh, so we're remanetized for two months. 2013. Sorry, three months there. So there so 2013 and again it took a little while to get but again 62 million place and Then demanetized again and it went down to 23 and this is just YouTube It's just you now you've seen what's happened obviously with someone like andrytate right where you see Metta steps in and then Google YouTube YouTube, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing. Oh, we got that one.

Then it's Uber. So Uber account. Uber got canceled. Oh, that Airbnb. We've been banned from Airbnb. Oh, really? Yeah, there's a reason. There's, do you want another reason?

I was there. I wanted to know. I want to know. I was there. I was there. Okay, so do you remember on Seattle number chaz? Yeah, of course. Okay, chop.

Yeah, chop. Yeah, so what happened is, remember, and do you remember about that on Chaz, I'm glad. So what happened is, remember, and do you remember Raz Simone was like, he was like the warlord there, who came out and he got the lead. He was the guy. He was the leader, but then we did some research on him. We found out that Raz Simone actually had an Airbnb

and like got all these grants from the government. So what we did was we sent our producers down to Chaz. We rented out his Airbnb and declared it new Chaz. Oh my God. And spray painted new Chaz and all this stuff. You didn't do it. And we actually handed out, for sure. We actually handed out party flyers.

His ice maker, come join new Chaz. Oh my God. And he found it. And actually our guys got chased out. So this whole livestream was come to new Chaz, which was Airbnb. And then the socialist gun. It was the beginning you'll see, So this whole livestream was come to new chat, which was Airbnb. And the then the socialist gun.

At the beginning, you'll see it because they had to leave. Yeah, the socialist gun club showed up and chased them out with there and chas. Oh my. Well, and he found it. So mid show, he actually tweeted us, I think is how we found him. He was on Instagram, where he's like, you guys are big funny. You know, like, yeah, he actually had a good sense of humor about it.

But they got us banned from Airbnb. Oh, shit. So this is his, yeah, this is Rasmones Airbnb. Yeah, you actually had a good sense of humor about it, but then you got to span from Airbnb. Oh, shit. So this is, yeah, this is Rasmones, Airbnb. Yeah, Rasmones. And so you can see why they wouldn't want us on there. Yeah, no, I, we didn't actually spray things, by the way, we just did a really good Photoshop and we know because he showed up, he was like, dude, don't, he's a guy, don't worry,

it was Photoshop, he was fake, we thought, alright, that was good. Because the whole idea was, it's really easy to say, this is our autonomous zone when you're vandalizing other people's crepes. So we should, let's go to your Airbnb. That's autonomous zone when you're vandalizing other people's crap. So we just said, let's go to your Airbnb. And yeah, so we were permanently banned from that. I think we had a couple accounts banned from Uber. Anything else?

I know you're obviously very against Big Tech. Anything with Meta, Instagram, TikTok. Oh, yeah, we've been suspended. So that's how I have Asian lawyer Bill Richmond was it was this. He's only half Asian. He's only half Asian. It's how you know he's been. If he's half Jew, then he's killing it.'s only happy. It's how you know he's he's half Jew Then he's killing it. Yeah exactly. Yeah, it's like the yin yang of fantastic. I don't get one

But he he met me through was it in gadget or gizmodo? I was get it wrong I think it's gizmodo so it was like this article that went out and we were doing millions and millions of reads on the website Just a lot of cut it comes like it's just a new site as well and What happened is all of a sudden it just got throttled and we just couldn't And what happened is all of a sudden it just got throttled and we just couldn't generate any type of traffic anymore. And we even AB tested it on other pages and noticed, oh, if we run it on someone else's page, it does well. We run it on our page, it doesn't get any clicks.

And so then an article was released from Gizmodo or in Gizmodo, what did I say? I don't know. I don't know. It sounds better. It was the code baked in where there was a leak from an insider saying like yeah was the ted crews for president the christ kyle foundation bright bar

in me one of these things is not like the other right but because pound for pound it was all organic traffic we didn't have nearly the budget and so then i call my friend who is a group he was a good friend of mine uh... and he was a hard logger at his like that's not really the law i do but here's a sky who might sky didn't bill richman half-f Asian lawyer.

And then I talk with him, and he thinks, I guess, there's another conservative, right? There are these wannabe martyrs. We're like, I'm being suspended or whatever. And it's like, well, that's because you threaten to kill someone's dog, you know, whatever you can do. Not all of them, I'm saying sometimes. So it goes, okay, I'll call, and then he calls me back.

He goes, wow. Yeah, actually, it looked like there's code in there, and there's actually quotes from the inside and they actually, there were screenshots of them removing us from organic trending. So we couldn't trend on Facebook, couldn't trend on Instagram, YouTube, we've run into it and keep in mind,

nothing we do is that crazy. Sure, some of the jokes are crazy, but it's PG-13, you know what I mean? It really is for the vet, like you're talking about guys who are pro second amendment, pro first amendment, yeah pro life, you know, conservative Christians, who maybe every now and then the joke ruffles some feathers a little bit too much but we've had run ins with all of them that's why it's you're talking about millions of dollars just in legal fees because we had to bake it

into our business model but I think if you're not pushing that envelope like if like just scratching and trying to put then it's not fun like you know I mean it's just boring that's part of the fun and You want to put it. And not doing it just to be vulgar or just be like, oh, look what they're doing. I think the funniest ones are when you're like, oh shit, where it's funny and you make them think and you're like, oh shit, he's kind of right.

Yeah. You know what I mean? That's also what we're doing is poking fun at these things that are just so patently absurd. And we're like, this can't be real life. And so we'll just kind of lean into it. And they're like, well, it is real life. And so now you better show up.

And be traffic to your website. Yeah, no. Let me tell you what we're just doing. It's just kind of lean into it and they're like, well, it is real life. And so now you better show me traffic to your website. Yeah, let me tell you what we just did. We just kind of interesting. We had a, we're recruiting comedians right now. So about two months ago, three months ago, we made an ad for comedians to apply. So we got 120 people that apply. That went down to 120.

A bunch of open micers are people. Steve, I'm not even joking, but one of them. I was a list. I'm sorry. So, and my demo bit time, I have to cut off, and I, we wanted, you know, resume this and videos. One guy's like literally in his underwear naked with a gun and he just goes, fuck with me. Like, I'm funny. And I'm like, what do you talk? Like, so I had a bunch of crap, but we did get a hundred and one. He got a five year

contract with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the time. Yeah, for different reasons. So these guys, it came and, you know, so went from 120 to 50 to 11 people were here this week and they're trying out for a couple days that we're here creating. We're shooting sketches. And by the way, these guys got not all stand-ups a great sketch. And vice versa. They can act. So they're at our comedy club and our cigar lounge. So they're kind of working together and they're doing their own thing. Oh, yeah, you'll see it here in a minute. So they're doing what they're doing on watching

these guys. I'm like, okay, I want to go talk to them. 1130, I'm sitting there talking to these guys. So tell me, what are you thinking about? This is like one, the best time ever to make fun of the president that we have, Biden's an easy one, but no one's doing it. We like to do this. Trump was good for comedy, Biden's good for comedy,

but people are afraid to touch it. And you see what's going on right now. And, you know, so I think there's a very major need for entertainment in that side. You know, sometimes the right gets criticism for not being good comedians. They're not funny. You're not good at making comedy.

It's two or even movies. Hey, do we need to watch another fire proof where the acting is like, great, can you really make some movie? I don't know if it's how Jesus revolution was never in the country. If you were following it or not. So are you gonna be making the movies?

There's a massive, massive opportunity. Massive opportunity today. What's also because they don't understand it. So like, when I talk about, and again, nothing is like official. But if people can see, for example, I'm not letting the cat on the bag on my show. It's like, okay, Jim Brewer, Nick DePala, Brian,

like it's a murder, Jim Norton, right? You've, like, landed. it's a murderer's row of people that we have all the time where they come on and they'll often say, like, oh, this kind of, this feels like throwing that gap that was new with Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn. I mean, even we've had comedians who we disagree with entirely on the show on a regular basis. It really is, it's tough,

because a problem is you'll get a lot of people who say, hey, I'm conservative, so my friends say I'm funny. You know, that's very different from like, like to me, Nick DePolo is the funniest stand-up who's ever lived, just in my personal opinion. So when I sat down with him, and he is exactly what you expect. Like he was wearing, you wear these sometimes,

like the kind of plaid pattern suit. And my dad, my dad dresses like you. He's a snappy dresser. He was actually a Dean Whitter and E.F. Hutton in finance. Didn't even graduate college. He just tested off the charts, got a corner office, kind of like bullshit his way in. Not lying.

Just like, yeah, I can do this. Wins is birthday. Wins is birthday. 60. No, what's month? Oh, 1960. Oh, month. Oh, month.

Oh, second, February. Yeah, no, no, no, sorry, April, my month February. I'm sorry, my month February. My month February. I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. Should we apologize to Nick? Yeah, Zidavajar, my month. So Nick walks in. And my dad's where'm sorry. I'm sorry. Should we apologize to Nick? Yeah. Yeah.

So Nick walks in. And my dad's we're like a soft kind of plant. And he doesn't look down from his phone and my dad goes, hey, you know, cause he's like, he was a booker for the show. We still have a booker from, well, from these big shows at NBC and they're like, no one will do your show.

They're terrified back in the day. Cause it was controversial, but not the number. So my dad goes, hey, you know, my son just can't, like, he's favorite comedian ever. I'm so glad to have you here. And all of you, he looks up from his phone,

can I swear? One time? Of course. There's no way to do Nick to follow without it. And he just looks up and goes, the fuck do you look like the mayor of Amity? So you're the first thing he said. And my dad is just laughing his ass off

because he's just, but he's actually a super, I don't wanna say sweet guy, but like a good guy who you can work with and trust, but he's actually a super, I don't wanna say sweet guy, but like a good guy who you can work with and trust, but he's so funny. Another senseless killing is my favorite album. But like Jim Brewer, you know, it's unbelievable who we've had in the show.

What does he do right now? What does he do right now? He's stand up. Yeah, he does his show too. Yeah, he does a show online, but he's one of the best, like, you know when people talk about boxing, I'd say if you want to teach him how to box properly, you show him Joe Lewis, right?

Exactly. Because it's the basics, it's done right, there's no wasted moves. if you want to teach someone how to box properly, you show them Joe Lewis, right? Because it's the basics, it's done right, there's no wasted moves. If you want someone to learn how to do stand, I always show them Nick DePolo. Wow, and I would say him in like a Puccino Nio, because this is the same one that same rock. Oh, they were, they had a show together.

They were on the shorties watching shorties. Yeah, that was, they were like really, really close. Before we wrap up, you said something, because getting a text message, your food is ready, they're cooking, they're waiting for us to go, which were like really, really close. But before we wrap up, you said something, because getting a text message, your food is ready, they're cooking, they're waiting for us to go, which is kind of, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, but, did you see John Stewart today with the whole, not today, three days ago,

the second amendment? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I have my thoughts on this. What was your reaction on the way he handles? Like eight minutes. Here's the thing, John Stewart is, is really good. Yeah, and, uh, for example, like, I can look at this objectively.

When John Stewart was on, with back then, it was Tucker, and was it Chris Crossfire? Crossfire, Crossfire. And then he was on with Bill O'Reilly. Look, I agree with obviously Tucker, I would agree with Bill O'Reilly more. It was a master class. I remember John Stewart answering, Bill O'Reilly says,

like, okay, but Stewart, you do this and you say, and people do trust you as news. And he said, that may be, but I don't this and you say, and people do trust you as news. And he said, that may be, but I don't know if you know or the lead into our show is puppets making crank calls. Yeah, exactly. And it just completely disarms him. It's like a masterclass, but in this, here's the problem. He's brilliant.

And this is the beauty of someone who's really adept with comedy. He sells to the audience that he knows what he's talking about. I watch it right away and go, bang, bang, bang, because I've been offered it's like I'm been champing at the bitch. It's like, oh my God. Where he quotes is like,

it's the leading, what is the leading cause of death with kids? It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not.

It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. 16 to 19, it's not even close. When you eliminate the stat of 14 to 19, and it's all intergang related,

when people say, hey, this is the leading cause of children, you're right, it's apparent, and this is the disservice the media does. As a parent, you wanna know, was there a danger in my bathtub? Should I not throw a toaster in there when my twins are learning how to play with the rubber duck?

That's probably a bad idea. Not going, okay, hold on a second. How do we save kids? Don't join a gang at 17 years old in Memphis. That's the stat that he throws out, but he's so smooth and collected and so much experience and dealing with adversity. And I don't know how he edits it, to be fair.

And I could see editing, though, Steve, I could see it cutting, because the guy who I wanted to speak, and then who's the guy that's going to get it? He's a congressman and a, and I'll call my mom. This guy was, you're talking about, this is a heavyweight versus a lightweight. Exactly.

When I saw the answers, then he just kind of fumbled through his response. I was just like, gosh, there's like five things that you can say in response to this. Do you hate women, John Stewart? Because people use their gun to defend themselves over a million times a year. And most of those are probably going to be women

that need to be able to have a force equalizer. Do you hate women? Why do you hate women? There's an easy way to say, this isn't as simple as you're making it seem. I just had an argument thing. That's why we were slightly late with a Canadian at the hotel pool.

I was like, Joe, like, this is, you've met me. He's like, I used to be late. People say, what is it? I'm this way, I'm a little more quiet sometimes off air because I just kind of get tired of the Canadian. But I was at the Canadian, he was sitting there talking,

he was bitching about all the stops that he had to make and checkpoints where they would stop you on the road because he was going out to Monkton and maybe he was going to this somewhere. I don't know if he's going to PEI or Monkton who runs what can he who's talking about this. I'm thinking, oh, this is a guy who gets it, right? Like Johnny Boy who's out there,

a friend of mine from, I've known him since I was 12 in Canada. And then all of a sudden, I realized he starts talking about Parkland and how America hasn't done anything. And I said, well, hold on a second. What should they do? And he goes, well, you know, in Canada, if you had our laws, I said,

you just had a man go to prison for 10 to 20 to life for defending his house when two men broke into his house with guns. One was roughing up his wife, likely going to rape her, and he shot this home intruder. And he's the one who's doing time and the prime minister came out and said,

you do not have prime minister blackface, but like, Like 15. I love this. We've done blackface many times in the show as Justin Trudeau. He's not going sketch. And he said, oh, I don't know about that. I said, yes, you know about that. Your prime minister said, you don't have the right. You do not have the right to defend yourself with a firearm. That to me, like Gandhi said, is a far greater act of evil and robbing a nation of armed. By the way, you also don't have freedom of speech in Canada. I went through my friend Mike Ward, who had to go all the way up to a Supreme Court for a joke

and a human rights tribunal. It is a subjugated, conquered people in Canada and they don't even know it. And that's the rest of the world outside of the United States. And they don't even know. They just accept it, wholesale. So anyways, well, your question, I wanted to hear what you had to say about John Stuart. I think he's brilliant, but I don't like

what he did here was dishonest. Yeah. And, uh, but very clever. But here, here's the part though. I mean, okay, say John's booker team, let's go to who John's bookers are, booker that they booked. Yeah, yeah. Guests, people have hope. You mean to tell me you didn't have 90 other people to get under that are bigger heavy waste and bring in a him on Of course I don't understand. I can't tell me you couldn't have brought in a Ben you couldn't have brought in a How many president of the bar as how many that's by design well, but but but that to me that's Because let me tell watch this got 11 something million views. Can you how many views as a show?

No, I'm sorry. It's not what 12 and a half million views. What is the number you see there? Do you see a number? That's just that's not the right number. It's got 11 and a half million views. This thing crushed it and went viral. There's no question about it with a tail wind, by the way, from YouTube and big tech.

Yeah, but but if you watched it, he handled himself so well. He says so more guns equals more safety, right? Then why is the number going up? Well, you can't really, and the guy try to make the argument of, it's just, he was not a good debater to represent the argument. He goes, he leaned in and he goes, when? When will it be? Exactly, right?

But nobody was prepared to counter and say, well, actually the stats that you're quoting aren't accurate. We've talked about that. The takeout suicides, takeout gang violence, and you're looking at very low numbers, relatively speaking. He wasn't ready with any of that stuff. And of course, this guy was picked. Well, he's a paper tiger. No, I had a run in, so by the way, I'm still friends with.

A manager had to drop me back there. I don't want to say his name because unfortunately, he has to be in the closet, that he was the guy who was conservative. And he had John Stewart's people reach out to him and say, do you have anyone else out there like like this Stephen Crab, but we don't do conservative pundits?

But do you have someone like him? In other words, they were saying, we like that he's young because it's a see me from comedy, and maybe a real was sent. And so we like all these things, but we don't do conservatives. So if you have anyone like him

who doesn't believe his he believes, we'd love to have them. And then when I released that, that was like a long time ago like talked about it Of course they called my manager I just talked about it. They call my manager like this guy can't be talking about what we're doing behind the scenes You know, we're never gonna have any of your clients again And I just remember kind of speaking about it off the cuff But that happened like they keep people away by design Stephen. What's the difference to between John stood in and Bill Mar?

Oh not much and here's the thing Bill Mar now. I think is going to a part, I don't know. And I would always say, never question motivation, but I did go through a pre-screen with Bill Marr's person. And I'm not saying that I would be the smartest person on the panel far from it, but certainly if you look at some of the people who were on there, I definitely would hold my own. And I remember the pre-screen process with Bill Marr,

she said, what do you wanna talk about? And I was like, because I'm thinking Bill Marr's comedian by that, he often throws up his hands. He's like, oh, good. Like, just like left. But I remember saying, well, I did just read the hashtag Oscars so white. And just go to see the new live action

beauty in the beast film, where in 1740s, France, I saw Mary J. Blige be royalty-fold into a bookcase. So I don't know what point, like, is what point we start saying, hey, you know, we're giving some roles that don't even make sense. Just so, if everything's going on, you want to talk about Disney. I said, no, I think when you're talking

what Oscars so white and in 1740 slavery, right? When, in that era, they would have been slaves, now making black, which of course, by the way, just to be clear, slavery bad, okay, all right? Slavery bad, not supporting, but I was thinking it's hilarious that at that point in time, it's so historically inaccurate. making black which of course by the way just to be clear slavery bad okay all right slavery bad not supporting but I was saying it's hilarious that at that point in time it's so historically an accurate you're creating roles for for black actors at that point that would never even be possible and she said well what do you think about Russia Russia gate oh and I said what do you mean

you said what I said what was it and I said this is there's something new yeah she was like I mean do you mean it was like I don't know like I haven't checked the news in the last 12 hours, but so is there something that's broken, like evidence? Lay breaking? She goes, no, she goes, no, but I mean the whole situation, I said, well, okay, do you want to talk about fusion GPS? Do you want to talk about the steel dossier? Because all this is something that was basically paid off of research and we know it's completely

fabricated and it's bullshit. I said, so you condemn me for talking about a cultural issue at large, that we know is a sham, but you want to discuss a sham. And then when I hear Bill Margo and I was saying, I told him to stop talking about Russia. It's like, that's what your booker was doing. Yeah. So I hope that his transition is real. I really do.

I think he's probably been beaten up by the left a little bit. But then he comes out and still says that Biden's doing a great job and he's going to vote for Biden. I'm going, well, how do you come to that conclusion? I don't understand the disconnect. Yeah, unless you have to say it. Well, it's the same thing with John Stewart. And he's like, it's on the sets, the woo hand,

instant, you write rarerals for the COVID events. He's like, yes, of course, he's the same people that you trust. And now you say, you still trust. Why? Why do you still trust them? Yeah, I think you're right. They had those little moments where like,

God, like the real, the real soul wants to come up. But then like you said, they're owned by somebody, bro. They can't sell it around it by people. 100% who wouldn't allow them to say certain things. Oh, for sure. And I mean, he is, at one point, he took a, he wanted like, he took a pot shot at me and just like, so I'm a random podcaster or something.

I'm like, okay, I don't care. But he's done jokes from our show. My mom. Bill Mar has. For Betem. Oh, wow. For Betem. And we know that it's been on his radar

because his book are reached out. And so like, you know, it just, this happens a lot. And I don't mean like kind of, you know, sort of veering into the same topics. I really, I would love to see him come up. But when he says, hey, look, this is a problem with the ultra woke

and the okay, fine. Then he says, Joe Biden's done a really good job as president. And I would vote for him. Is that really a net benefit? Because you've gotten people to listen to you. And then you've taken them to the end game of, this is what you should do politically.

And I go, oh, God. So I don't know, but the John's tour thing, the guy is really funny. Yeah, I'm very good. He's very talented. And that can trick people into him sounding like he's right. A lot of what he said there was factually inaccurate,

which tells me he doesn't even do basic research, because it just takes one link deeper into the study Yeah, either that's a good cut either that is a terrible opposition representing second amendment or You know, he just did a master class on asking questions to put the pressure on the guest and There's an art in doing that as well.

Yeah. And he's very, very good at doing that part. So, uh, anyways, yeah, I was just curious to know what you're going to say about Bill Marvars' John Stewart. Obviously, the last two years, you've seen what's been happening with Bill Marv. Bill Marvars now, like, yeah, server it is all, I mean, Bill Marvars, he's doing such a great job and he's doing this. He's doing that because they're clamoring, right? Think about that for a second. They're going, oh, Bill Marvars is something even remotely conservative. Like someone on the entertainment, because they're clamoring, right? Think about that for a second. They're going, oh Bill Maher says something even remotely conservative. Like someone on the entertainment. Oh, because they're used to nothing, but talking.

It's also very easy to say, you know, I haven't changed. They've changed. That's his resounding narrative. Which is actually true. No, I think it's complete horseshit. You believe me? I think it's complete horseshit. Because again, you're talking about in 2004,

or when it was 2006, right, being banned, I remember being banned from, I think it was, it was, it was a Marianopolis or it was Concordia, like getting into trouble, getting booed, having to be like escorted out of universities, having shows canceled because of things that were politically incorrect back then. And at that point in time, all the comedians said,

ah, this is just, you're just making a big deal. Up until not too long ago, Bill Mar was hitting those same talking points. So I do think that they left. I don't think the left left them. I do think that both the right have become more left and the left has become increasingly left. But if you look at the things that Bill Mar espoused not too long ago, it was left. It was left. It was significantly left. From everything from...

Like, I think now unfortunately, you have people revisiting the gay marriage topic. You know why? Because people go on, hold on a second, we can't put kids on puberty blockers. Like that's a bridge too far, but they're going, so everyone has a line. Now people realize, everyone has a line.

And they're going, did the line have to be back there? I mean, I can't tell you how many people who used to be liberal have said, you know what? I just don't know where we stopped this. And now kids are being taken away from their parents without impurity blockers. And I remember with Dave Rubin, who's a friend and he does my show and I done a show quite a few times

and he was very surprised back in the day where he would say, I didn't leave the left left left left me Steven, you know that kind of thing. And he said, I know you're more libertarian like you support Seam 6 marriage. I said, no, I don't. He was surprised because when I see him, I give him a big hug.

You know, I see him. I have a lot of love for the guy. And I think a lot of people think that if you have an issue politically with the blurring of gender lines, it means you hate people. And I said, no, no, here's the deal. And I don't think it's a fair comparison to interracial marriage, because I think

that fundamentally black and white people as parents are interchangeable if they want to be present in their children's lives. In other words, I do not think that a black woman is incapable of providing to a child whom she loves what a white woman can as a mother. I other words, I do not think that a black woman is incapable of providing to a child whom she loves what a white woman can as a mother. I said, but I don't think that two dads can provide what a mother and a father can.

I don't think that two moms can provide what a mother and a father can. I don't think that men and women are interchangeable as parents as we could argue people of different races. And I think you're not gonna like what this ends up because to say they're interchangeable is to say that the gender lines don't exist. And that's not a gay thing.

That's going into whole new territory. And we're talking about that maybe in 2016, 2015, 2017, with Ruben. With Ruben. Yeah. And he was surprised, and he was surprised, but he said, okay, and I said, now look, and you have to understand why marriage laws exist.

I wish the government wasn't in the marriage business at all. But the reason why was because before federal government, before state government, they wanted self-governance and they realized a nuclear family was the most important way to do that. That's why you have tax incentives. That's why you have the government recognizing mom and debt. And that's not the same with two dads, two moms.

I think you should have civil unions, all the same rights. But I said, this is a slippery slope and I think that saying men and women are fundamentally interchangeable will tug at that fabric of society, and I don't know who's pushing for that when we should all be agreeing on the civil union. Where do those conversations end with Rubin?

Like when you really, you're done like, lug and everything goes on. He's a super sweet guy, like, you're not gonna find the guy, like, sweeter than they've Rubin. Yeah, he's awesome. But I think they're surprised because I think you have to be like,

a Westbrook Baptist church person, if you go, well, there are issues with the same sex marriage thing. And the beauty is that you can have your opinion That's what people always think like he's right. No, you could have your opinion you have your opinion you stick by it You and jank ever do anything together or no. Oh God. Well, I will show it up technically technically I crashed on a Southwest panel of jank jank winger as jankigger. Yeah, yeah. So I showed up and it was like, I'm the real Jink Wigger. And the reason I did this impression was because they would pick on me when I was a tiny YouTube channel.

And then once I grew big enough, I was like, well, let's do a debate, you know, because they would pick on me. They said, no, all of a sudden I was like, Voldemort, they wouldn't acknowledge my name. So I started, what I would do is I would do the young Turks' parody where I would do impressions of them. And then I would actually like run them back then as ads before young Turks videos. And they got really pissed. Obviously, that's what you do as him.

Yeah, it's the most embarrassed I've ever been in my life, but I just felt like I had to do it. Is that him right there? That's him. Yeah. And gained a ton of weight for the uh, are you put a, I mean, we look eerily similar.

Don't let us all up. Audio. Look how uncomfortable he is. Is that okay? So this is not going to buy you. Okay. This is what he does. I'm in the pressure. You know what? Bullshit. I think he basically, he makes money. If he makes money, you watch right? I

He picked on me. And I'm like, for you, let's give this. They had it in the wrong place. So we had him in the wrong place. What's the wrong? Marriott, he's dressed in full check out that he comes out and there's like no ballroom beer, whatever. I think I walked past Bill Nye. Yeah, I was in the wrong courtyard, man. So I had to get in one of those golf court, golf cart.

Yeah, look, there's nobody even in there. I know, I know. That is so funny. I didn't want to do it, I felt compelled to do it. But you're nervous, let's be every minute. We've had a lot of fun. I've never been so nervous in my life. So you guys have never done anything together.

Never. Other than that. Would you or you wouldn't, would you talk to them? Would you have a conversation with them? I would, again, there's a big difference between saying I disagree and like calling me a Nazi, you know, saying he's a garbage and he's a horrible person and also like misrepresenting, you know, what a big thing is is they had, they missed, they said, uh, Stephen calls women, you know, lying horrors

and he's sexist and, and they even break this rule. Whenever we tell a joke on here, like, Joe, what do I always say? If we tell a joke that we know is going to get some heat, always make sure that there's, I say like 30 seconds before 30 seconds, that people have context. Yeah, yeah. Because people will go and they'll afford you that, right? They'll look at the context, say it was a joke. And I think this was a joke with Christine Blasiford, remember, yeah, which we now all know is fake. Yeah, 100%. And the joke in one of the monologues was something like, you know, of course, Christine Blasiford authorities are investigating and they are trying to make sense of, I don't remember exactly the setup, right, Brebeton,

but the story which she, the account that she gave to the Washington Times, which was different from the account that she gave to her therapist, which was different from the account that she provided to the authorities. Of course, they are still open to the possibility that she's a lying whore.

That's still the table. And they said, like Stephen calls women lying whore. There we go, right there, just her. No, no, just a woman. Yeah, it is a specific instance, okay. And so when they do that, like, you know they're being dishonest. Big time.

But yeah, I would, but I was sitting there, I was like, I still think it's a funny joke. I think it's the lyrics, but look at the power of people just reading that, that didn't know what you said. You're automatically that guy. Yeah, it was the police.

Yeah, by the way, here's what's crazy, there was a my ass that we had Jank here. I don't know six months ago. What was the time? 10 months ago, eight months ago. I think it's about, no, I think it's about a year. March. Really? Yeah. March or eight months. And I got to tell you, it's very interesting. I had no idea what to expect when he came in. I don't know what direction was going to go. We had a very good conversation together and he made his argument. I made mine, I asked the questions. He went back and obviously you know politically

where he lies. And then we had the Kyle Kulinsky on four months ago, five months ago, two months ago, great conversation. We had this David Pakman on, young guy, fiery, energized and he very good. And then who else have we had on? We had a bunch of these guys on just to kind of see, because we had plenty of liberals on them,

the way on the show, just they wouldn't do it for long. And I understand that. Yeah, I totally understand. Yeah, rolling Martin here. Yeah, we had Ronald Martin here, and it was, he was firework, it was crazy. We had Neil deGrasse Tyson, but that wasn't even like, I just asked a question about COVID,

and that one a hold this one direction with the conversation about COVID. I believe that. But you know what it is, like, again, who's your customer, who are you doing it for? To me, it's two things. One, do you like doing it? I do.

I like talking to people and seeing where it goes. Two, who's the customer? The viewer listening and saying, you know what, Pat, you were wrong there. Okay, let me go do a little more research. You know what, that argument, he has a better argument than you. Okay, cool. Or, you know what, Pat, you were wrong there. Okay, let me go do a little more research. You know what, that argument, he has a better argument than you, okay, cool. Or, you know what, I don't know.

I don't know if I agree with Kyle or Pacman. Great, make up your mind. And then my argument, your argument gets better. The audience is winning. Yeah. You know, we're building that relationship to say, okay, dude, in these three places were way off. Because I asked a question from David... the david packman who would

consider himself well i don't know politically what he would put himself taxes how much taxes too much taxes right and you go i don't know thirty percent and we were kind of the same page when it came down to taxes the most you pay thirty percent of the amount of flat tax a little bit better for me

at the conversation with jerry springer and jerry spring is like i'm like jerry how much taxes would you be willing to pay? I don't know what kind of a question is that, I said, that's the question to me politically. Here's your budget, go spend it, and stay tight, and stop asking me for more. If you don't know how to spend the money that I gave you that's now $32 trillion, I don't know,

I paid 90% in taxes. I said, you would pay 90% in taxes. I said, you would pay 90% tax. We told you, you pay 90% taxes. I'm like, if you're like, saying you pay 90% taxes, why did you move your show from where it was to Connecticut? You saving the taxes. You did this. Why did you do that? Why haven't you done it already? Yeah, the IRS will take your check. And you know, you know, you know, you know what's the last question I asked Jerry? As a Jerry, don't think about the Jerry today. That's worth 50. Don't think about the Jerry today that's worth 50. Think about the Jerry that was making 50,

K-year coming up. Would you be okay paying that taxes? I mean, the perspective is you're taking that fire away from the younger guy and then that's when the conversation was like, I can't believe you're saying this. I'm not like, I just enjoy having a conversation with opposition. I think opposition brings leaks in our argument.

Strengthens your argument. And then audience gets to decide what the mind came from. We couldn't get people on the left to really come on the show a whole lot. And it's not a debate, though. It was always designed to be the secratic method. When we do debates, we do debates on the show. I even debate right wing people.

Like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, John Stahl. So there's this character, Skylar Turden. It's called Devil's Advocate. I even debate right wing people, like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, John Stahl, so all of them, there's this character Skylar Turden, it's called Devil's Advocate. And I always tell them, like, don't think you're talking to Steven Crowder, like, just, no, it's not going to be like, oh, I'm a liberal, I'm stupid. Which a lot of conservatives do this character of people on the left, I'm going to present the strongest arguments possible. And sometimes they've been tripped up. And there's some funny stuff like we always every time they're talking like I throw them all I'm smoking a big big tape. Is that a segment? Yeah, devil's advocate. Yeah, and we ended up with problems because then conservatives like It's pretty tough because again, I'm like

Arguments because it's for the audience for them to be and it was really just we use clips against you like did the left use clips saying This is what Crowder set or no no, no, no, okay You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm dressed up in an outfit of tattoo. I got in a coexistence tattoo. I do. And I'm very grateful. Coing in a travel band. I know I was having a bigger, bigger vape mod.

Yeah. Yeah. But, but all, you know what my prep was? My prep for that was the mirror image of change my mind. So I would go, let me, because I always go claim truth, claim truth, what I most anticipate to be the most likely claims and change my mind is not a debate. I most anticipate to be the most likely claims. And change of mind is not a debate.

It's meant to be the secratic method to encourage people to ask why. And the irony is that a lot of people end up changing their minds. But when we do that, we'll sit down for three, four hours. And it's just anyone who comes down. Will that professors come down? Sometimes we've had reporters and people from television

sit down, it's not just students, but that is exhausting. Yeah, four hours. Our biggest goal is not to tell people what to think, it's to teach people how to think, like go through this process and make sure that you're not making the mistake of being able to point these things out like some of these guys,

we just talked about Bill Maher and those guys, and still making the mistake of thinking that's the party to trust, because there's something that's broken in the way that you think about these things critically and go, oh my gosh, I don't trust them for this, this or this, but I still I'm going to vote for them. Wait a minute, how did you get back over here? Yeah.

Right? So it's not just changed my mind. It's, hey, we're quoting to you people on the left, all of our sources. Like if any of our researchers, people come to us with a source from Fox News, we throw it out immediately. Not because we don't like Fox, but because it's like, yeah, we understand the talking point. We want to know what they are saying so that we can tell our audience, here's what they're saying, here's why it's wrong.

Think through this process, go to our website, don't believe me, go to the website, click on the link, see what the article says. We're not making it up. We always try and go if it's a study, we'll actually link to the study that's there of the ACUP media, or if it's a new poll, we'll link directly to Rasmussen

or if the only time we'll ever use a conservative source is if it's an exclusively conservative story that they have a coupon. So most of the most sources are leftist like New York Times, Washington Post, and we provide 30 to 60 every single day when we do the shows. Every day. Respect. I genuinely think that you really like just never met you before. I've seen your stuff. I know what's happening, but like just from talking with both of you, like when it comes to like fans, I can tell that you guys really give a shit about what you're doing. Oh, right. You're saying and like that, that I think resonates and that's why you guys have such the following that is gonna

Follow you and stay with you guys and stay loyal. Well, once again, I appreciate you for coming out. This was fantastic Congratulations to you guys March 20 it. Yes, 20 March 20. Yeah March 20th. It's the same same bat times Ten dollars put the link below again March 20th, it's the same, same bat times. Let's go. 10 a.m. Eastern. $10. Put the link below. Yeah, March 20th, Stephen Crowder, back with a lot of specials. The last 90 days, they've not been sitting around. They've been producing stuff. You know, I know the world's excited for you guys to be doing that. And then also at the same time, we are doing our next live podcast,

The Weekend of the UFC in Miami, which is the fight the eighth Saturday, April 7th at night. First time we're doing a podcast Friday night, 7 to 9, and we will be having tickets go for, so probably sometime this week, last time it sold out, I think like three hours. And the moment we send a text out, it's not going to be public announcement. It's purely sells out. Once you send a text, if you do want to be on the list of the last podcast, we have 200 people in the house. Some guys went into the cigar lounge afterwards. We had a great time together.

This one's going to be seven and I, so probably people are going to stay at the club to late nice drinks, all that other stuff. So, a text award podcast to 310-340-1132. Once again, text award podcast, 310-340-1132, once again, text award podcast 310-340-1132 to be part of that list. The moment we announce tickets, you'll be the first to get the text to purchase the tickets so we can see you April 7th, Friday, 7 and 9 at the studio with VT, with myself and our crew.

Having said that, once again, link to podcast show with Steven coming back will be below to get signed up for that. Again, put in your account on the March 20th. Steven, thanks for coming out. This was a blast, man. I really enjoyed it. I'm truly, really enjoyed it. You guys have a nice set up here.

Very subtle. Hey, the lights on. Thank you. We are pushing you guys. We're pushing you guys. We just went live. Take care everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

We just win live. Take care everybody. Bye bye.