PBD Podcast - "Suga" Sean O'Malley Responds To Ryan Garcia's UFC Challenge | PBD Podcast | Ep. 374

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Starting point is 00:01:00 because it's sweet to watch him fight. Yep. That's how I got the nickname. I know your coaches gave you that name because they say it's sweet to watch them fight. Yep. That's how I got the nickname. I know your coaches gave you that name because they say it's sweet to watch you fight. And number one, he's got a big fight coming up this Saturday with Vera and excited about that. I think we're going to the fight with 35 deep.

Starting point is 00:01:16 We're gonna go there because we wanna watch you fight. Yeah, we wanna see what you're gonna be doing. We're excited about it. But there's a lot to be talked about because there's guys that are good fighters but they're not about it. And, but there's a lot to be talked about because you're not, there's guys that are good fighters, but they're not good marketers, right? There's guys that are good marketers, but they're not good fighters.

Starting point is 00:01:31 Every once in a while, if you can find the two together, you understand marketing, you're a great storyteller, you're a good shit talker, and you can deliver. Now you got something that can turn into a very, a face of a league, face of a sport type of a thing. And a lot of people, including myself, see you as a someone like that. You even said 2024. You said 23 was your year, but he said 2024. I don't know which interview was he said 2024 is going to be

Starting point is 00:01:57 the year where I'm going to, I'm going to get to the counter type of level. I don't know what interview was this, but you said this. And anyways, having said that, it's great to have you on a podcast. This is the coolest podcast setup I've ever been on. Seriously? Beautiful studio. Yes, seriously. It's so badass. I appreciate you. I appreciate you. And again, we've been looking forward to this for a minute. There's a few things. So, Rob, can you do me a favor? When I saw what city you grew up

Starting point is 00:02:21 in, Helena, Montana, right? First thing I did, I said, okay, what is the profile of a fighter? Right? Typically, when someone becomes a fighter, they either had a bad relationship with their dad, okay? It was kind of like, you know, you're not going to let anybody do what your dad did to you. You either were raised being bullied, you were raised around gangsters, you're a natural athlete.

Starting point is 00:02:43 Like there's a lot of guys that are great fighters that are great athletes. And then I went and I typed in gangs in Helena, Montana. Okay. By the way, he hasn't seen this. I showed it to Rob. The great sir. When I typed in gangs in Helena, California,

Starting point is 00:02:57 the first story that popped up was this. Can you click on this Rob? So it comes up street gangs in Helena. So zoom in a little bit so I can read it. And this is an O9. This is way before, you know, the world knows who Sugar Sean O'Malley is. It's gang like these that the people of Helena

Starting point is 00:03:11 have to put up with a bit different from the problems in other cities, it proves that every state has their own unique gang problems. They roam the streets, yard nights, yards night, and they hang out even in the best neighborhoods and you cannot legally shoot them. Can you show these gangsters please? Boom. That's the game.

Starting point is 00:03:28 I was wondering where that was going. By the way, I had no idea what this article was gonna be. I said I had to show it. So from Helena, Montana, you served at the Air Force Base in Montana. I was at Great Falls, Montana for five years. How do you go from that? I know you wanted to be an NFL player.

Starting point is 00:03:44 That was your dream. You wanted to go into NFL. Still do. And then you go from that? I know you wanted to be an NFL player That was your dream you wanted to go into NFL still do and you go into fighting. How did that happen? Yes, I grew up playing sports baseball basketball soccer and then you know football All year round and every season I was in a different sport since I was probably four years old You know, I got I turned 16 going to the high, super insecure kid like we all are going into high school and I didn't have the best grades, hated school, hated school from elementary school. I knew I wasn't going to college when I was like, you don't

Starting point is 00:04:16 have to go to college. Do you like any of the subjects? No, I hated it all. I didn't even like gym because I was sweat and I wanted to talk to chicks I didn't even like Jim, but I was like, you know sports, but so hated school 16 years old didn't really get the best grades That was an issue like for to place school school sports and I thought you know I'm gonna start I'm gonna try kickboxing and I'm gonna start boxing and you know, maybe I can get some chicks maybe I get some confidence and It was a I could compete without having to be

Starting point is 00:04:45 get good grades. It was not school related. Started boxing naturally, was like pretty good at hitting mitts. And for the most part, all we did was spar. And I was like doing good. I'd switch stances, kind of had my own style. Didn't really learn how to stand orthodox, throw a jab,

Starting point is 00:05:00 throw a right hand, throw a left hook. I just kind of would go in there and be know be an athlete and I was doing really good so I had my first you know kickboxing fight when I was 16 I think I had four kickboxing fights four boxing fights 16 to 17 started MMA when I was 18 and I knew I was like looking back I don't really remember exactly what age where I decided like okay this is it 100% but I moved to Phoenix when I was 19 years old to train because in Montana there's no gyms you can really make it to the next level you can you know I feel like I got a lot of experience being from Montana because I was able to fight so much it

Starting point is 00:05:34 was easy to find fights there there was no commission so we were I fought three times in a month at one point and there's just a lot of people willing to fight not skilled fighters but just people willing to fight got a lot of experience in Montana So I think that was a huge part of my confidence because knocking people out at an early age 16 years old I'm not gonna grow in men out 17 years old knocking grown men out and so I just believed I had this power When did you learn about this when 16 just first fights? I was dropping people just street or like no no no organized or so Sean in school there was no like bullying nobody messing with you. It was it was not really forward

Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah, not really that was insecure like going and still going to school But I never really got bullied or picked on it was mostly just like I Wanted to compete wanted to keep doing sports, but it just hated school We're like the cool cat people know they liked no I was kind of jealous of the jock because I love sports, but I also didn't get along with those guys. Like, I didn't, it wasn't like a, it just, I just didn't get along with those guys. I didn't really get along with the skateboarders or the stoners.

Starting point is 00:06:37 I feel like it was just me and a couple buddies who just had our own little clique. And we, we didn't have beef with anybody. We kind of got along with everyone, but we didn't hang out with many people in ourselves. How many of those guys now message you or DM you or text you and say hey Sean remember me from ninth grade. Have you got any of those messages or no? Yeah, yeah, my buddy Cody Webster and Elias Moore is like two of the kids that I hung out with the most and it was I don't talk to him often, but I still keep in touch. How about the other guys the jocks the guys that were the Oh, they don't they don't really talk to him often, but I still keep a touch. How about the other guys the jocks the guys that were the Oh, they don't yeah, I don't really talk to I'm hard to get to now like I you know, I don't have I don't have Instagram Twitter on my phone

Starting point is 00:07:12 I have someone else kind of look at that for me. I actually recently did that go into this camp Feel like it changed my life to be honest respect just like the anxiety not that I had bad anxiety We just had this like level of anxiety from surfing on your phone, checking Instagram, looking at things that I deleted that. That can be a whole other topic, but I felt, so I'm harder to get to, so I'm not, I changed my number multiple times since I've moved. So, you know, everything gets filtered out for the most part, but people hit up my family, hit up my brothers and they're like, Hey, tell Sean, I said, you know, good luck and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:07:44 But what prompted that? What prompted the, uh, going on a diet with social? It's just, uh, you can just feel it. Like I, I mean, there was, well, I guess the biggest part is I have a three year old daughter and it's like, I'd be outside pushing her on the swing, kind of surfing through Instagram. Like, what am I like, just like catching myself in that, like, what am I doing? She's grown up so fast and I'm here pushing her on a swing while I'm kind of surfing. And I'm like, I'm going to put a timer on it and you put a timer on it timer pops up

Starting point is 00:08:08 You put your password in timers gone you get fuck keep surfing like that didn't work I'm gonna completely get rid of it off my phone and I have my assistant that I can still make posts I still can check stuff when I need to I Can still make sure I get business stuff done because that's where I make a lot of my money is through social media So I don't hate it. I just needed to limit it and I wasn't disciplined enough to just put a time around I gotta get this shit off my phone. It's not easy to do good for you because especially if your business is social like there's people Like you know, you know who's typically not on social media Hollywood actors Have you noticed this like a lot of big Hollywood name actors or not? Don't think Wayne and some of these guys guys

Starting point is 00:08:44 Like a lot of big Hollywood name actors are not good point Wayne and some of these guys By the way, you know who just got on Instagram last week who Charles Barkley shut up. He just got on Instagram I did you know that no he literally just got on Instagram Barkley first time ever he got on Instagram And then and then I don't know if you guys saw this clip if you can type in Rob type in Barkley type in a shack type in Shaq, type in OnlyFans. This is how much Charles knows about all the stuff. So if you can, it's a short clip, if you can go to it, it's hilarious where, is that the one? Let me see, is this the one?

Starting point is 00:09:15 Yeah, yeah, this is the one. This is the one, okay, rewind. Put it from the beginning and play, yeah, go ahead and play this, watch this. And every time you send out a picture of a picture of you You got a hashtag only fans Watch his reaction. He doesn't know what it means Just hashtag only He's covering his face. I'm not even explaining this on back.

Starting point is 00:09:44 I'm not even going to talk about what the facts are. He's just hashtagged Charles Barkley, backslash, only backslash. No, that's a psych. Look at this. You can tell innocently he doesn't know. But there is a form of liberation of not being on it. You know who used to do that when he would go into the playoffs? LeBron James. I believe it. Yeah, LeBron James, the moment playoffs would start off on some of zero social media

Starting point is 00:10:08 He wouldn't tweet he wouldn't do anything at least this is the image He would give until playoffs was done with or they lose because most often he would lose or you know The whole thing is done with that. That's what he would do, but I think it's a good move Yeah, I think so too especially with so many kids nowadays dealing with anxiety and depression. It's like, it probably comes from a lot of their parents just surfing and being on their phones and there's passing down the anxiety to their kids and all these kids have issues now in middle school and high school. And it's just, it's a tornado. I mean, social media is not the worst thing ever.

Starting point is 00:10:37 We just have to have a level of discipline to be able to be on it. And I mean, even I feel like I'm a very disciplined, routine person, but I was like, I couldn't, I had to delete it off my phone, at least for a little bit. Like it's been, when's the last time you posted something personally? A couple of days ago, cause I travel with my assistant. So if I need to post something, cause I have brand deals that I have to, you know, deliverables, I need to post boom, boom, boom, post and ghost. And that's it. Got it. Got it.

Starting point is 00:11:00 Well, good for you to have that kind of discipline. Is that if somebody's on the inside and they watch you? Are you a hardcore routine guy? I know you talk a lot about sleep you talk about what you intake you talk about how Drinking coffee is eight hours. You can have one, but you have an eight or you're very have you always been this detail? No, I started getting it's I pick up good healthy habits and routines each fight camp more and more and more When I'm dialed in for fight camp I like to do 12 weeks about three months of just I'm pretty disciplined outside of fight camp

Starting point is 00:11:31 But what I'm in in camp is everything's to a tee like sleep What I'm eating the caffeine intake I usually do that out of camp too because I can't like mess with my sleep But uh, yeah, I'd say it all stemmed from wanting to be the greatest fighter of all time and that's where it's like, okay I need to do I need to go above and beyond and dude need to do the little things that are gonna help me get a little bit Better that's gonna make me stand out a little bit more and I feel like it's you know Been a huge role in my career is doing those little healthy habits Did you say the greatest fighter of all time?

Starting point is 00:12:02 That I mean I would love I'm not too set on like legacy and like, because you know, once we're dead, we're dead I'm not really worried about that, but it'd be cool. I mean, I'm in a position to where I can be Like I just knocked out the greatest Bantamid of all time I'm about to defend my title live on pay review UFC 299 and You know, I got big big fight big options next so I like to have options, but I do think when it's all said and done I Could be considered one of the greatest full-time if the career plays out how I think it's gonna play out And it's played out so far how I thought it was gonna play out So who do you who do you have right now as the greatest like if you if you're speaking that language?

Starting point is 00:12:40 I've interviewed a lot of guys and you can tell when somebody speaks that language and somebody doesn't, it's a big difference, right? When you talk to Kobe, Kobe speaks that language. And he knew that from early on when he's ranked the 56 best high school player in the world, he's like one by one by one by one by one until he became the best and he goes into the NBA. He knew everybody's stats, almost like a historian.

Starting point is 00:13:03 Is that kind of who you are? if yes, you know, who inspired you to think and have this mindset or is it just your DNA? Um, I'm not like that as far as stats and stuff like that, but the greatest of all time, it would be hard to argue against John Jones or Habibi, he went 30, you know, and then if you want to talk even boxing Floyd I think when he was 50 you know never lost like that's that's legendary never losing this is is hard to do John Jones is in that same boat he had that weird fight with but I mean everyone considered that yeah never

Starting point is 00:13:38 lost Habib never lost Floyd never lost so you know I'd like to be in that category I got a little couple weird things on my record but you know I don't count that shit and I don't think most people and then after Saturday I don't think a lot of people are gonna count that so well I mean if you can unpack that because I know what you're talking about the weird thing you're talking to Joe and you're like I don't feel like I lost yeah and Joe's like but you know he he did he did when he said no but there's a what was it called a front or I got dropped but he did kick me I'm not arguing that I got kicked by him

Starting point is 00:14:06 He threw the kick to hit my nerve my foot went numb I had these ankle wraps on there were way too tight sometimes that nerve comes back and you're able to my nerve did not come back I rolled my ankle like seven eight times and you know the the rest is history, but Mentally, I didn't feel like I lost that guy I didn't feel like his skills were better than me. And that was three and a half years ago. And now I'm defending the title against that same guy. So, you know, we get to see who was right and who was wrong. The reason I say it like that is just because

Starting point is 00:14:34 how many thousands of kicks have been thrown since then and how many times has that happened, that same nerve, that same spot. So it's a very rare thing. So I always call that, you know,, fluke and blah, blah, blah. Is it psychological? Like, is it, you know, like, for example, I'll talk to a group and they'll say, well, let me tell you, you know what, like, I remember one time I came to one of my Florida offices, Plantation, and all the guys in this office were like, I said,

Starting point is 00:15:00 why is everybody late? 30 minutes people are late. Why are people coming in so late? Is this because none of our offices are people late. Your office, everybody's late. And they said, it's a Florida thing. Pat, you don't know it's a Florida thing. I said, this is not a Florida thing. Standards are standards no matter where you go. So don't try to convince me that that's normal.

Starting point is 00:15:17 That's your normal, it ain't my normal. So how much of it is like, you don't wanna accept that yourself to allow that little possibility of questioning yourself in. None. I don't, I think if I would, we're to go out there and lose that fight

Starting point is 00:15:31 and he just beat me skill for skill, I just lost that fight. I don't think it would really bother me. This doesn't really bother me either. It's just, that's just how I truly feel. Like it's not because I'm trying to keep this level of undefeated like I could be no one could beat me It's not that at all. It's just the way it played out. It just doesn't Doesn't feel like I got out skilled and if you watch the fight, you know, most people kind of see it

Starting point is 00:15:57 I mean, you know, he was about to be on my highlight reel sooner than later, but uh, you know Yeah, and let's not forget. I mean, you, that fight, Rob, can you, was it in August of 2020? I think it was August of 2020, right? Like the fight was almost at a, this is like the worst time of COVID. This is when we thought zombies are coming up, right? This is when you were like, there was like five people in the, there was no audience.

Starting point is 00:16:19 You just heard every step. Yeah. Yeah. It was a, I fought in the apex three times. I fought in that same arena, that small cave, which is super is super weird and UFC you have a small cage in a big cage I was like in that you know playing half court an NBA game sometimes. It's a weird weird cage Yeah, is it a big adjustment when you're fighting in that verse way different cuz you're in front of each other like playing half court football Or basketball that makes sense. It's like playing it's it's half the size for the most part I think it's like 44 percent smaller. Who does that benefit like in a fight? Um, I think it would benefit like, you know wrestlers grapplers guys. I want to get a hold of you

Starting point is 00:16:52 I love the big cage. I like that's when I fought Aljo in Boston big cage My main goal do not let this motherfucker grab me. Yeah, make him make a mistake make him over command take his head off You know pretty much what I did, but yeah, it's you know So so Sean any since you're fighting Vera again, any, and it's been one of the most four years, any adjustments? Like, is your train, is your camp? Are you basically taking that same wrong? I mean, you've obviously grown to be a better fighter. Anything different? Cause I mean, you're fighting the same guy. Does anything change?

Starting point is 00:17:20 Um, you know, if it's not broke, don't fix it. I feel like other than that fight, I've never lost a fight. Everything I'm doing is, you know, it's not broke don't fix it. I feel like other than that fight I've never lost a fight everything I'm doing is you know, it's working So I'm gonna continue to do what we're doing each guy, you know, we fight Alger We bring in guys like Alger we fight cheeto we fight, you know spar guys like cheeto It's like you just kind of have your sparring partner try to emulate the guys you're fighting and do the same shit It's been working mentally Is anything like on your mind that the last time you faced this guy or zero you're like no just gonna take it as another fight that I'm going into? Yeah 100% just another guy just another

Starting point is 00:17:51 fight just another Saturday. Do you have a said prediction what you think's gonna happen? The thing about Cheeto is he's very very durable I think he's got 20 plus UFC fights never been dropped never been knocked out never been submitted all of his losses have went to a decision Very tough guy very durable. He's got good cardio. He's a very dangerous point. I know a dangerous opponent I know you said I'm a pretty heavy favorite, which I mean I agree can't deny that but it's a very very tough fight This is not an easy fight be any means With that being said neither was Aljo Aljojo was not a, I think in my opinion Aljo was the toughest fight in the division for me and I went out there and knocked him out two

Starting point is 00:18:29 rounds. So I do have this confidence that I could put Cheetos lights out or win a decision but it's not an easy fight by any means. Sean, what's, what's his, what's Vera's biggest strength fighting wise? I know, but besides cardio and stuff like that, what's his, what's his like go-to thing? Durability. I mean, it just lasts. He's obviously, what's his like go to thing like durability? I mean, it's just last he's he's obviously skilled You don't get to where we're at not being skilled, but durability is a real thing people can get tired Beating you up like Nate Nick and Nate Diaz made a career out of that you get tired of beating someone up And then you just kind of take over and put it on him. So I'd say that

Starting point is 00:19:01 God because Diaz brothers you watch those guys fight. You're like, he's done No, he's just getting started. Yeah. Like another round and another, and then all of a sudden he wins. How did this thing, what round was it when he beat Connor Diaz? So was it like in the...

Starting point is 00:19:14 It was only in the third, I think. Third round when he beat him, yeah. And then the next fight when Connor came back, he adjusted. Is there anything you're, because if you remember when the first time they had the fight, Connor, Diaz would go down and he would almost welcome him and Connor would go and then he got caught.

Starting point is 00:19:32 But the next time they fought, every time he would drop, cause he dropped them two or three times, he just would stay up and says, no, no, I'm coming down to fight your fight. Is there anything you were adjusting with Vera? Not really, our fight was like two two minutes didn't play out very long and I felt like what I was doing was working Obviously, I gotta address the leg kicks. That's where he kicked my nerve

Starting point is 00:19:54 But that's with every single fight. I got it, you know, it's like dealing with someone's jab dealing with someone's right hand dealing with someone's wrestling dealing with some leg kicks It's like I gotta you know take care of that with every everybody I fight wrestling and dealing with some leg kicks. It's like, I gotta, you know, take care of that with everybody I fight. Um, but even that, that all played out 2020, three and a half years ago. It's like I went on a tear after that fight. That was the, you know, I look at that as a blessing in disguise. Cause I say I go out there and beat Cheeto.

Starting point is 00:20:15 It's like, then I get rushed to the top too fast and my career might not play out the way it's played out. So I look at that fight as a blessing in disguise. I had one of my best performances ever, one of the sweetest knockouts of Thomas Almeida where I dropped him like three times He's laying on his back. I died. Oh, that was a Beautiful the way that fight doesn't happen if I don't if that what happened right in that fight didn't play out that way It did so I've never looked at it like God just drives me crazy. It really really doesn't Because I was able to have such sweet performances after that's the That's the fight where you knocked them out twice, right?

Starting point is 00:20:47 It's like, yeah. Because you thought that we were going to stop them and you step back, the ref didn't come in and you went back in and again. And it ended very bad for him because he was on the ground when you hit him and you're looking at the ref like, you really want to punch a side? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:59 Yeah, I dropped him in the first round with a nasty head kick, kind of walked off. I mean, the dude was eyeballs really, whoa, the ref let, I mean, he gets back up, I let him in the first round with a nasty head kick kind of walked off. I mean the dude was eyeballs We're like, whoa, the ref left. I mean he gets back up. I let him back up And then the third round drop him with the left hand. He falls to his back I kind of walk off ref doesn't stop it Jump on he gonna stop that by heat the ref could have stopped it and nobody would have said Yeah, that's what I'm saying though

Starting point is 00:21:19 If they did nobody would have been pissed off because it's like yo dude You were getting in it but also sometimes in certain fights like you, you know, when they get in, you're like, what are you doing? Like, I feel like more people would have been pissed off. They stopped it. I think so. Yeah. People want to see, I mean, even that Aljo fight, people were complaining about it being a late or early stoppage. But I mean, once the UFC comes out with this documentary that they shot and they have some crazy slow mo footage of his eyes is like rolling back. It's like the refs standing above the guy knocked

Starting point is 00:21:46 out watching his eyes. So the refs making the best decision in the moment. Okay, this dude is not fighting back. He was like, yeah, but he turned his back. He was going to try to get up. It's like, yeah, but I wasn't the one knocked out. I was the one punching him and he's the one giving me his back. What do you guys think I'm going to do? Let him up or you know what I mean? Like it's not going to get better for him because he turned his back. Sean, who's the toughest guy you fought? Peter yon Peter yon and Aljo both tough tough fights cheeto I mean cheeto's definitely up there when it just comes to pure toughness and durability cheeto's probably up there for sure

Starting point is 00:22:15 Yeah, did you by the way? I like watching him fight. He's fighting this weekend, too. Yeah, I know I really like Watching him fight. It was one fight that he had. I don't which fight it was when you watch him Very interesting style of fighter. He is yeah, very skilled. Yeah, very Very skilled. Didn't you just recently? What story did you tell about how you ran into is it umar who was it you ran into in the bathroom? And he was watching this field. So I guess that's a religious thing, right? Yeah. I didn't know that at the time. I was like, I was trying to ask myself, wait, was he washing his hands maybe?

Starting point is 00:22:52 But no, yeah, I was like, he was washing his feet, but yeah, I guess that's a religious thing. So I didn't mean to say anything negative about it. I don't think I did, but I was, yeah. I don't think anybody was negative. It's just maybe you just don't know culturally how. By the way, he's the cousin. he the cousin of a could be I think he's a I think he friends or cousin there you go cousin Yeah, so he's kabeep's cousin. So

Starting point is 00:23:13 What's his is he just fought he's in the same weight class. He's in the same weight. Where's he ranked that right now? I don't think he's ranked, but it's because no one will fight him supposedly I mean, I guess the UFC's offered a bunch of fights they had to bring in some random Russian to fight him last weekend some 17-1 guy so that you know that's a big you know Irish Russian fight that why do you think he's not ranked oh 13 oh he's ranked number 13 okay but he's the guy that a lot of people are talking about so would he be like meaning for someone like you okay let's just say various fight is done with okay and you're right you're saying you got him you know tough fight like meaning for someone like you, okay, let's just say Varus Fight is done with, okay?

Starting point is 00:23:45 And you're right, you're saying you got a tough fight, durable, no one knocks him out, and you're a knockout artist, so if you do, that's a very, very big deal if you do, because it hasn't happened. So the market's gonna react to that, and that's what everyone's gonna be talking about, 100%.

Starting point is 00:24:00 So I'm excited about that. We'll be there ourselves like I told you,'re going 35d because we want to watch you fight But would would he be somebody or would it be more like in your mind? Have you thought about am I gonna increase weight? Am I gonna stay here? What's good because you've seen other guys do it and it didn't work out Yeah, so are you kind of monitoring against saying you know, I don't know if I want to go this way I want to pull guys to come this way. What do you think in some of the next moves? Yeah, if something like umar is like he's gotta he doesn't have he has a big name because it's never made him out

Starting point is 00:24:29 That's that's the reason no one really knows him So he's got some fights to win as far as like this bill. I want big fights. I want massive fights Morab's done a good job like three four fights ago. He's so boring He just holds on to people but now he's kind of just done it to so many people. It's it's interesting It's like okay, can he do this to everyone so Mirab's an interesting guy he's on a 10 fight win streak, Alger was on a 9 fight win streak when I knocked him out you know they're very similar styles I believe I knocked Mirab out that's a potentially a big fight next

Starting point is 00:24:55 Ilya to Poria Ilya to Lapya just beat Alexander Volkanovsky you know I would like to get that fight in Spain someday I think you know I go out there and get a couple more knockouts. He goes out there and gets a couple more knockouts that fights Massive, I mean, I was kind of calling for it next after Cheeto if things go as planned You versus Omar Ilya to pour you just knocked out Alexander champ champ going up to 145. He's 145 So I got a lot of hate on that. I was like, you know, this would be a crazy fight People would love to see that the fans. Oh, the fans always hate on confidence to hate on like I'm like This would be a sweet fight and the fans like no you need to fight marab your ducking marab like I had on knock

Starting point is 00:25:33 Marab about next with that's really what you guys zoom in a little bit Rob zoom in a little bit if you could So Marab is right behind you. Yeah, Marab's number one. I'll just move that he's fighting on one at 145 I'm 300 Corey's there. He's he's deserving Yeah, crazy division Davis and figure eight I'll move it up from 125 knocked out a beat Rob font. He's fighting Cody Garbrandt Dominic Cruz still in there, huh? Dominic Cruz somehow still wow. I'm like damn this guy's he's old, huh? So so Somehow still wow, I'm like damn this guy's he's old, huh? Yeah for a monster. So monster division so Omar when is a more fighting next he just fought last weekend and one be one of the decision Have they announced yet the next thing? It's not gonna be nice. No couple months or something right? Yeah

Starting point is 00:26:19 I think I think that would be a very very exciting fight. I I think I think that would be a very very exciting fight I Yeah, it definitely will be if he goes out there The thing about uminar is he's pulled out of so many fights gets injured He's pulled out of three four five fights So they taken a fight against him is dangerous It's like God is this guy gonna show up or they gonna switch it last minute What's the UFC's rules against that? I mean if you get injured say

Starting point is 00:26:42 He pulled out three or four times because it's all injury his injured prone or I think a couple last couple of times We're injury prone. Yeah, but I don't know. I mean, I don't know if there's You like protocol cuz I remember when Connor was fighting gonna fight Aldo. I'll go got his rib injured right at the fight Katamenda so it's like I mean, yeah, how can you prove? Okay? it's not broken. I'm sore. You know, I mean, yeah And I think in his case there are serious injuries, but uh, yeah, so I mean, but will that be a big fight someday? I do believe so Conor versus Habib, you know at bad bandit might basically That's kind of like that was Yeah, I mean that was that's essentially the biggest pay-per-view fight ever.

Starting point is 00:27:25 I think three out of the top five biggest pay-per-view fights ever have Connor in the ticket. I think like seven or eight out of the ten. Yeah, that was like, that's goals. What do you think made him that? Was it, how much of it was skill set? How much of it was his actual abilities? How much of it was his, you ability to market promote dry fights yeah I think you gotta go UFC you go unboxing so if you go top UFC there you go pay-per-view fights ever it was a mixture between being able to talk being able to sell a fight as far as being able to you know talk the way he talks his accent his witty But it's also comes down to performances a lot of people I feel like think I'm in this position because I have crazy hair

Starting point is 00:28:11 I've faced tattoos or I say wild shit, but it's like go look at my highlight reel. That's why I'm in this position No, your highlight reel is is pretty wild. I mean you got stuff. That's 10 20 30 million plus views. Yeah Yeah, there you go, that's the one. I think I think. 2.4. Jesus. Nowadays it's so hard, especially with the generation. It's so easy to go to go stream it on on some illegal platform. It's just like, you know, people people tend to do that more. I think with a card like this 2.99 being stacked, like some people are like, God, it's a main event I want to watch. I don't want to buy the whole card. Oh, I don't want to, it's two fights on the card. But with the UFC 299 being stacked, Peter, Jan and Song-Yan are opening up the card. It's an incredible fight card. So I feel like, uh, you know, it's worth.

Starting point is 00:28:59 And remember last time Dana reported Miami was the number one. It beat out, it beat out New York, right? Madison Square Garden. I don't Miami was the number one. It beat out. It beat out New York, right? Madison Square Garden. I don't know what the number was, but he specifically said Miami's the new LA Miami's. What LA used to be 10 years ago, go back up, Rob. So you got who you got. Obviously the main fight, big fight. Everyone's looking Dustin Portier against, okay. Benoit St. Benoit. Got it. And he got Kevin Holland against paid Michael Venom page is making his debut and Jack de la Mandela Some crazy fight

Starting point is 00:29:30 This is good. This should be exciting but you know for me. I'm just Watching you seeing what's gonna be the next thing that's a the next big I think UFC to be interesting to see what's the next big fight even with Connor Connor and Chandler, right? They're talking about you know know you made a you made some comments about that you said you don't know if it's good for him to come back because of the money that he's already made whether he'll be you said something in that context right or um I don't say a lot of shit but I want to Connor come back I want to the biggest Connor fans since you know since I

Starting point is 00:30:04 remember I think the first time I watched him fight with Max Holloway years ago, so I'm a huge Connor fans and people always try to Almost make it seem like I'm not a hater because I'm trying to be bigger than Connor and it sounds like in a negative context But I was like I Connor's my you know, he's he's the one of the people I looked up to especially in fighting So I would love to see Connor come back I'd love to see Connor come back and win although I do like Michael Chandler as a person He's a good person and it sucks when it's fighting

Starting point is 00:30:32 But yeah, I would love to see Connor come back and keep doing massive of pay-per-views Who do you think would win if those guys because Chandler on a daily basis is training. It's a channel or life is still Yeah, this is his life He does some business here and there but Chandler every day is posting videos of how hard he's training, how prepared he is. Fuck. Yeah, I mean that definitely plays a role. I'm going into a fight. Who knows what Connor's doing? Sometimes you know what he's doing. He's on the yacht, but he's got a gym. He's popping out every week. There's another kid coming out and he's like, drink this whiskey.

Starting point is 00:31:03 I'm like Drinking and looking up His family's huge Another one's on the way Just happened by the way like what the fuck he's just humping those things He's probably got four kids like under six or something. Yeah, human Rob but he has a he has like a tribe yeah I want to try it someday oh good for you bro go to personal Sam I would say four and he's going on five like personal life he has he's been in relationship with D yeah D Dev wait for care for it and I think one more is on the way so catch your question how much

Starting point is 00:31:42 so I forgot I saw something with you a documentary or something where they're like Especially with you you you know people like talking crap because you don't you weren't jumping in trying to go like with the number One rank or you weren't fighting for those type of fights It's the you have to build your name first and then you get to the top to fight How much of that like the image the style the shit talking to all that how much does that play into that whole game of the of the fight? You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I coming up in the UFC, you get paid, you know, your first couple of fights, everyone gets paid pretty much the same and then each fight, you know, people can negotiate contracts differently. But I mean, if you're your third fight deep, you're not going to

Starting point is 00:32:21 be making a couple hundred thousand, you know what I mean? So it's like when I'm getting offered these guys that aren't in top 15 top 10 I'm like hell yeah I'm yeah I wouldn't even want to fight the number you know seven guy making 40 and 40 like I want to be when I fight these guys that are you know tough Pedro Munoz Peter young like these I want to be making hundreds of thousands of dollars and then when I'm obviously the champ I'm gonna be making millions but yeah so it's I was never complaining about how fast I moved up I enjoyed it I was young I got an UFC knows 23 I didn't need to be fighting the top top guys in the world and the UFC's also you know a business fight

Starting point is 00:32:57 business but they're a business so you know I think I just trusted them and they just kind of you know it was simple as that. You know how in boxing, like a, for example, you know, Oscar de la Jolla, I have Ryan Garcia here on the podcast a couple of weeks ago, right? Yeah. And he's a big fan of yours, by the way. You guys are fans of each other. You got to say a lot of nice things to each other. You guys see him for real quick.

Starting point is 00:33:23 Did you see me saying he could beat me? You enough in a UFC fight you have that Rob if you want to pull up that clip the moment Pat said that to me Oh, everybody's face in that meeting was like I dude he one of your leg or stomach to somebody like I should want to rap I think I was a little bit of a booger sugar talking though. I'll be an honest I'll be disaster in MMA I'll beat his ass in MMA, guaranteed. In MMA? Yeah, I'm a natural. You don't understand.

Starting point is 00:33:47 I'm a natural wrestler. I just beat my security that's a wrestler. I beat him. I'm strong and I got crazy conditioning. So most people in your position would want him to come over to boxing? No, but I want it. That's already been done. I know I'm gonna knock him out in boxing.

Starting point is 00:34:01 That's not even fair. What is fair is to test myself in MMA because I know if I put my mind to it and I trained every day and I had Nate helping me, even Alex Pereira, all of them and I really locked in, he will not beat me. I will come with everything I have and I will destroy Sean O'Malley. In the UFC. In the UFC. I've already sent text messages to Dana.

Starting point is 00:34:24 Yes. I've already got people that I think you have to stand up I'll come to UFC there I'm down to do any no well maybe yeah maybe he's trying to save your life I not to get in a ring with the I do that uses what would happen if you guys actually got into a UFC fight I mean would depend what you want actually got into a UFC fight? I mean, would depend what you want to see. You want me to choke him? You want me to knock him out? You want me to kick his leg? What do you want me to do? I'll do whatever you want.

Starting point is 00:34:51 I mean, you're about you're you I can do anything. You don't want to get that too. I mean, he's a bottle. It's not it's not front. He's a boxer, but you have everything. Boxing distance is like this. Yeah. Yeah. MMA fighting distance little gloves is a little bit. It's a different distance. Yeah, exactly. And so with that big, but the rig, yeah. What do you think would happen though? If you guys actually fought, um, I, I would talk to the team. I would say, Hey boys, you want me to knock them out or submit him? I'd fill out people pick. I'd probably do some polls. Say you guys want me to knock on my left hand, my left foot. I'd probably do some games and figure out what if we, what, what if we put this purely, how I want to finish in my,

Starting point is 00:35:21 by the way, here's what I would want to know. I'm honestly my main curiosity will be the following It's you know how Elon just announced that his car is gonna he's gonna be building the first car that's gonna do zero 61 second crazy right one and your 60s. It's a freaking scary. It's all going that fast, but if If the race was Okay Zero to knock out or submission. How long do you think you would need to get them done? That's a good question. Great question.

Starting point is 00:35:49 In UFC, not boxing in UFC. So I think the fastest way to victory then would be a pre-chokim. I pre-chokim in a couple minutes. Oh, you would need two minutes. You think it'd be a two-minute thing? That's being humble. I mean, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. It's hard to say. Now, so two minutes. Okay. So it wouldn't be a Mazvedal type of thing with him against, you know, what

Starting point is 00:36:17 happened? Two seconds to shoot. That was six, seven seconds, whatever that was. That was weird. I think if you watch that fight back from five minutes to like 457 is actually winning. I think it was like two three seconds He sprinted across the clock kept going until the red. I mean in there was an extra few But I think it was really only two three seconds, but yeah, that's very rare. That's a very rare instance It what was what was Conor's knockout? What would 1313? Yeah, it was all the way in left boom yeah and although also connected but all those you know wasn't as 13 seconds got it so

Starting point is 00:36:51 so how about if you guys box you and Ryan box see now that's competitive that's more competitive I wouldn't be the favorite by any means it would be more competitive do I believe I could beat Ryan in a boxing match? Yes. Do I think it'd be very, very difficult? Yeah, I would be up for the challenge. It'd be fun. I would enjoy the process of getting there.

Starting point is 00:37:13 I would enjoy, you know, switching, doing something fun, but the chances of him beating me and I'm at zero, the chance of me beating him in boxing are a lot more than zero. But still, I mean, he's been boxing his entire life, but I still believe I could take him out. How about Street Fight? Well, I mean, that's even... Street Fight is the same as MMA. I mean, it's... Yeah, he

Starting point is 00:37:32 has zero chance. I've been fighting, you know, really fighting for 13 years, you know, and at a high level, I think, for about 10 years. So it's just not even, it's comical that he even says that. So let's bring it up to the one part. So, okay, Boxing, he's got the favorite, but it's closer, UFC, you'll win, Street Fight, you'll win. Mayweather fights Connor, right? Connor won one, nine rounds, 10 rounds, I think he won 10 rounds. Can you see how many rounds Connor went?

Starting point is 00:38:07 I don't think I think he'd watching it It looked like he did but I think the judges didn't give it to him like that I think Connor only want a few well, let's yeah, let's pull it up not win not win How many rounds you went not win? Oh, how many rounds? Yeah? Yeah? I think you're at nine or ten. Can you check to see how long that how long that fight lasted was it ten rounds? They went or was it a ten round fight and they went nine or was it a twelve round fight and they went eleven or ten? Do you have it it should be categorized for don't be in that no won't be there It's gonna be in if you go to Mayweather boxing all right there go down a little bit boxing right there Mayweather

Starting point is 00:38:43 money fight oh Didn't say okay. It doesn't say how many okay good. I thought he did really good. Are you kidding me? I was like wait a minute. This is this was actually 10 rounds. Okay 10 round Resonant of hordes on this and so TKO in the 10th round. Okay, respect Conor's a lot bigger I know a lot bigger than yeah, I know yeah I know so so then the question would be the following just purely for shits and giggles for for us fans who out there you know like questions like this your peak boxing against Connor boxing who comes Connor and fuck peak I don't even really hit 160 when I'm

Starting point is 00:39:21 heavy I do is walking around like 195 right want 85. He's just a big fucker It is getting bigger he's getting bigger so I don't necessarily Love my odds against that but just boxing. It's like speed kills on him You know, I'm pretty quick, but you know out of respect. I'll say but Connor can knock me out Look at this. Oh, what the hell is this? I'm gonna fight like that. I'm talking about like let's just say weight class and let's pick a weight What's the lightest he ever I think I have the best I think I have better skills I can stand both I can stand South Park Orthodox and and I have a very good defense both very good offense both I think I have the best striking in MMA hands down to be honest or hands up

Starting point is 00:40:04 What's the lightest he ever fought? 145. Okay so you're fighting what weight? 135. I fight at 45. Okay so I'm saying 145 to 145 who wins? That's a good question. Connor is prime at 145 when he knocked out Jose Aldo. Me moving up to 145 I'd still be a little bit lighter, but I'm taller. I believe I'm faster I think it'd be a good I think I'd be a competitive fight back in the day when he was 145 No, no, no So you're you're you're given the slight edge to yourself it sounds like I got it. Okay. Yeah, got it Got it. Yeah, that would be that would be I mean we'll never see it

Starting point is 00:40:41 That's the thing that you would never see it. Well, we can, we can think. You can do it in video game. You can say, I wanna play a one for, by the way, somebody should do it. Somebody should do a simulation. Somebody, yeah, please. And just someone's gonna make this clip here and just see what's gonna happen with it. Choose counter 145, whoever's doing the video game stuff.

Starting point is 00:40:59 I don't know if I'm at 145 in the game. I don't know if you can do that. Damn, could they match them up? Somebody has to, so I guess. Even if you can do that. Damn. Could they match them up? Somebody has to talk. Even if you can do one 35 against one 45, I'd love to see just purely what that simulation would look like. One matter of fact, do you have a Rob? Do you have a chat GBT? Let's go to let's go. Hey, that's so funny. Go to chat. GBT. You're not logged in. Okay. See if you can log into your account and we'll wait for you

Starting point is 00:41:26 I could do it on my phone. I just want to know listen. I just want to Sam Altman. He claims this is a seven trillion dollar company Okay, he's being sued right now by Elon Musk Musk is not happy because him and Musk started this as a nonprofit He turned into profit Musk steps away and Musk is sitting there saying wait a minute. What are you doing? This was never supposed to be profit. And now you're with Microsoft? Microsoft is a competitor too. Big time. So Musk is suing Altman right now.

Starting point is 00:41:50 Did you hear about this or no? Yeah, because he said it was open AI source, now it's closed and you're doing profit. So anyways, I'd be curious to know, obviously you have to always trust the internet. You have to always trust. I mean, you have to. So Sean just really fast while he's logging in. Weight-wise, do you stay at your weight? Do you have to always trust I mean you have to so Shawn just really fast while he's logging in

Starting point is 00:42:06 Weight-wise, are you do you stay at your weight? Do you have to cut is it crazy? Like I know the night before people try to you know drop the water and everything. I'll do that You know how crazy is it for like is it? What's this documentary come out? They followed the whole process you get a better idea of what we go through to cut weight It's not fun. I mean in the moment. Everyone looks like they're dying. You know, you're dehydrated completely. You're, uh, but yeah, not MMA fight in a boxing match. Who would win in a boxing match between match between Connor McGregor and Sean O'Malley. It's funny. He says, hello, Rob. Want to want to ask porn questions. You just find out everything about her.

Starting point is 00:42:44 So curious to know what Chad GBT thinks. Predicting a winter between this and this in boxing matches is very difficult. As both fighters possess unique strengths, oh you got diplomatic and political on us. Oh come on. Okay let's see strengths and weaknesses. Go up there. Let's see how what Chad GBT says. For Connor, more experience in boxing, have completed a professional as before. So that possesses your knockout power, especially in the left hand. Okay. Wait a little bit higher. Proven track record of success against top tier competition weakness, recent inactivity and injuries. Well, then he's not

Starting point is 00:43:13 really answering the question the way we want to chin. Okay, has shown vulnerabilities in his chin against counter punchers in the past, strength, younger and potentially hungry with a longer fighting ahead. Excellent footwork and movement, making him difficult to hit, cleanly possesses good technical skills by a chat GPT's a fan of more. Weakness less experience, okay, has never faced an opponent of counter's caliber, may be susceptible to McGregor's pressure and heavy punches. Ultimately the outcome of the fight would likely depend on several factors

Starting point is 00:43:46 McGregor's current form and fitness level or Mali's ability to handle Conor's power and pressure The fight strategy and game plan. Well, listen pretty that's crazy. That's pretty good analysis right now I'm technically one and El Pro boxing. I think he's technically oh and one but he did fight Floyd So I mean I'll give him that so chat GPT doesn't know what it's talking about them because needs to get, listen, Sam, you got to check out this one and O record versus O and one, please fix your update, the system on the next sprint. No, but look, you know, for, uh, uh, are you, are you a fan of any other sports outside of NFL? Um, I'm a fan of athletes, high level performers, more so I feel like then I don't mind. I can't really sit down and watch a basketball game,

Starting point is 00:44:31 but, uh, you know, watching someone perform like Steph, just go crazy or LeBron go crazy. Like that's fun. I'll like watching highlights on YouTube or stuff like that. But NFL, I can sit down and watch full games more so. Um, who do you like are there guys that you're you know where you do you have a relationship on my home's Brady a Joe Borough are there any guys we're like I really like the way that guy plays yeah I really like I mean Joey B's coming up come to the fight as well you know fan of his it's hard not to be a fan of patch from home's watch him get it done crunch time you know I just like in watching watching high level performances like that.

Starting point is 00:45:06 Him and Kelsey do their thing, it's beautiful to watch. But yeah, not a ton, but a few. You said something, you said at the beginning, I said, wanted to be an NFL player, you said still do. Still a fantasy. Still a fantasy. What position did you play? I quit growing, you know wide receiver DB

Starting point is 00:45:26 I think defensive backs are some of most athletic, you know athletes in the world garden that garden those guys is insane But uh, yeah, I think I would be a little wide receiver might be a little too short You're 40 how fast did you run your 40? Do you remember? I've actually never I don't think I've ever done that I would guess you know what this guy ran this weekend. What did you see this or no? No, the put put this 40 ran in the compound for just go for two Oh a guy ran a 4 to 40 like I'm talking to you guys in the combine It's the he's broke the record for the fastest 40. He break the record. I thought he did he broke the record Is this it? Oh, it's this doesn't even make sense John. No, I don't think it's another guy. No, that's not a John Ross

Starting point is 00:46:09 Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, this this just happened right if you go on Google don't go on Twitter go on Go worthy go on Google this was a worthy. I think it was worthy. Yeah, it was worthy pads this guy He ran a 421 or two by the way never has there been a Documented 421 not By the way, never has there been a documented 421, not Dion, not Bo. Damn. They're always talking about how Bo ran a 419. That's the rumor.

Starting point is 00:46:34 I think Bo, they said Bo ran a 419, but this guy just absolutely crushed it with a speed. Do you have that big- Is it just a dude clicking it like this? This is it. Watch this. This is the 421. Go back. Look at this guy. Dude clicking it like this. This is it watch this is the four four to one go back

Starting point is 00:46:59 Look at this if you see it from the side it's it's it looks fake Just move it. Yeah, that's insane to be running I remember when Devin Hester on the Madden game was Oh my god. The first time he was someone with a hundred. Yeah, he was a hundred speed. I was like, holy shit. Yeah Devin Hester was what is he the one that has the record for pun return kick kickoff return for touchdown? In one game in one game. I think he like three or something. Yeah, something like that He was number Dante Hall to from was a KC. KC, bro. KC. He used to be, he used to be pretty wild as well. X factor on what he was, uh, uh, what he was doing. But so, okay, let's transition to a couple of the topics here. So, uh, when it comes down to, uh, uh, you know, you've talked about how, um, at, uh, this fight, Joe Burroughs

Starting point is 00:47:43 going to be there this Saturday. I think you told the story about the time you posted a picture of you and Trump at a UFC fight and it was is it true that your father said take it down because some people may not like it? It was the caption I think he was referring to. What did you say? Well he walked in with Kid Rock, Donald Trump did. I think I said we're gonna fuck some hos after we rock this place. And my dad's like, I don't think the positive people on the left are gonna, I don't give a fuck on the left. I don't know enough about it to fuck care if one of the people get mad. So to me it was just like this is a legendary pick, legendary caption.

Starting point is 00:48:22 Kid Rock was there. I was like, yeah, I'm posting that. Now has Dana at all announced the possibility of a Joe Biden coming to the fight this Sunday, the Saturday or no? I think we're fighting like 1230. I don't know. I don't know. I guess, you know, I don't know much about politics. But it's a bed by 6pm. He's out. By the way, I'm actually, I'm actually curious. It's real. We're talking about simulation, you fighting against a kind of ride, one 45, one 35. I want you to actually think about it. Cause you've been out of fight. You, you, you see what happens. You're in it when you see him walking out, what happens to the fans and the whole place pretty much

Starting point is 00:48:58 shuts down. I think one time Mazvedal was fighting. He walks in, they stopped in the middle of the fight cause he was walking in. So I think he walked in in the middle of the fight or the beginning of the fight, the walk took like so long until he, we were at that fight, I think. You were there? Yeah, it was nuts.

Starting point is 00:49:13 So what would happen, serious question, what would happen if Joe Biden walked in? What would happen with the fans, the arena, the state? What would happen if that were to the arena, the state? What, what, what would happen if that, if that were to happen? It's a good question. I think it would be the biggest booing. If, if Biden, if the jumbotron went to Biden and he walked into any, doesn't matter, Miami, New York, he would get the biggest booze and it would ruin the fight. Cause the dude, people wouldn't be, they'd

Starting point is 00:49:42 be bashing him the whole time. You that what do you think would happen you're not seeing a trump heavy and it's crazy because shawnt it doesn't matter where they are I mean he like Dana's not hiding this relationship no with Donald Trump bro like you maybe he's a tenant can you google has has Joe Biden ever attended a UFC fight no I'm searching it right now See maybe he has we don't know about it There's I did I think he did go to one football college game and they did the Joe Biden. Oh, oh, yeah, dude Listen, he's not love from sits fan. He's not love. Yeah, that's an interesting job What to be to be? Tell me why do you think it's interesting? It just doesn't seem like I Just can't imagine wanting to be the president and just have all that fucking

Starting point is 00:50:26 stress and oh, I don't know fuck that Constant so you think fighting is less stress than oh, yeah, I get a chill at home watch some Netflix fucking smoke's bleeds You know important decisions and it's way more enjoyable. I mean I mean, listen, if president, you can not only smoke weed, you're sunken, bring cocaine. Yeah. A lot of other wilder things. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:51 You could do blow. You could do deals with China. Oh, yeah. That's actually a good point. It'd be interesting. I would simply want to know when, because you know, two Super Bowls, he didn't want to do the Super Bowl three-minute interview.

Starting point is 00:51:03 I don't know why. This year? He turned it didn't want to do the Super Bowl three minute interview. I don't know why. This year? He turned it down to want to do it. Instead, they made a commercial about shrink flation. I don't know if you're familiar with shrink flation. So shrink flation is, you know, this topochico is how many ounces? It's 16.9 ounces.

Starting point is 00:51:20 And they sell it for $2, let's just say. Now, they're still selling it for $2, but it's 13 ounces. So they fool you in the skull shrinkflation is what he talks about. You know, I was going where I thought you were going when you said Biden Trump, if they had to get into a fight, if they went UFC in the middle of the, who do you think wins that fight? Well, Trump, you think so? But yeah, I don't think Biden's key, you know, the difficulties walking to the doctor down there. That would, like, oh my, can you imagine that?

Starting point is 00:51:49 They announce him and just Joe Biden, the light hits him. He has no idea where they're at. Oh God. And Trump just in the ring, like, where is... I think that's terrible for America. Who wins though? That would not be good. If you had to put your money, who wins?

Starting point is 00:51:59 I think he's right. It's purely energy. He can't, he walks super slow. You know what he would run his 40 yard dash right now? What? Take that. Take an afternoon. It would take a while, but chat. GpT it. Yeah. Yeah. How long for a 40 yard dash?

Starting point is 00:52:17 Yeah, it's a little bit. Would he run a 40? It's actually sad too, though. It's like he's like an old guy. And he's like just in this position who knows if he's you know really wants to be I don't know which one because you said like Because you don't get into it. You're not you know left right? What I would you said it's a hard job, but have you felt how different it is from like because you know when Trump was in To where now it's just like you know the people in power It's just it's just all you know

Starting point is 00:52:42 Babying him coddling him letting him and you saw like the other guy was really pro America and they went after him and they're trying to destroy him yeah I don't yeah I really know very little but whoever's gonna save me a little cheddar on my taxes let's get that guy there yeah bingo well that by the way that in itself is knowing a lot about politics just hear it what was gonna save me some dough? That is politics. At the end of the day, politics is, you know, who's gonna improve the economy, you know,

Starting point is 00:53:11 who's gonna be simplified. Taxes, economy, job, paying my bills, having a good life. Two, secure, no war, no fights, I can go to sleep, I'm doing my, NN3, allow me to have my own opinion, my freedom, I mean doing my NN3, allow me to have my own opinion, my freedom. I mean politics is actually so super simple if you just go to the basics. What's important to you?

Starting point is 00:53:31 Those three things are really it if you think about it. We don't need to add all this other, you know, everything else just complicates things rather than simplifying things. So Sean, when did you have, do you feel like you've already started making real money? Are you already making real money? I feel like if I decided to quit fighting, I could live the rest of my life comfortably.

Starting point is 00:53:53 I kept buying houses on the come up, so I have six houses, doing the real estate thing. I got some investment stuff, and I got the retirement fund. So I'm doing everything right. I got good people around me to really help me with my money. And I think I could consider myself to be able to live comfortably the rest of my life at this point. That's coming from where you're upbringing. Because how different is it night and day with your upbringing?

Starting point is 00:54:21 We definitely weren't, I would say we were middle class or whatever. My mom was, we had four, they had four kids and she was very, you know, stinging is the right word, but very careful with the money. A lot of arguments mom and dad talking about money, spending gas money, you know, we didn't go out to eat. And if we did, you know, dollar med you. And that was rare.

Starting point is 00:54:42 But I was raised like that to where money was always an issue. It was always a fight over the money constantly. So I feel like once I started making money, I was very smart with it and made sure like that'll never have to be that case. But I enjoy making money. I enjoy the process of helping, you know, signing with brands, building brands.

Starting point is 00:55:06 I'd love to, you know, start making my own brands more so getting equity and companies stuff like that. But it's a nice safety net to know like, okay, if I really just was over this that I could, you know, I have a farm. I could live on, I could live out there. In Montana? In Arizona. Okay, got it. I could, you know, I could be done with all this and just you know Coach and help to help Tim my coach has a gym

Starting point is 00:55:29 I'll help be there for community and still enjoy life, but I love making money. I love I love the deals I love the whole I love it I flew here on a jet not very very few people are flying on the jets in the UFC might you know Conor might be I might be the only other one and uh... you know people like it all that's crazy u of c u of c doesn't get me a jet you know i'm not uh... they i've i've fly private not everywhere i go

Starting point is 00:55:54 but when i fight and i fly private numb to be able to do that and it not even affect me is is nice but i'd like to continue to make a a lot more money what's up with a lot of money i wanna make you know i wanna be have a hundred million dollars at some point with, you know, before I'm 40-ish and continue to do stuff like that, but The fight game is so tricky. That's why I really try to enjoy these fight weeks. I got a lot of interviews I got a lot of stuff to do and I have a lot of weight to cut at the same time

Starting point is 00:56:21 So I'm not really eating a lot of calories right now. I'm pretty sure I switched to saltless chicken for dinner tomorrow so if you guys wanted to come over so I'm trying to still enjoy all this because I don't know when the last fights you know you never know when the last one's gonna be um you know so if I continue to go out there and do what I truly believe I'm going to do and that's knock people out and make two big fights I'm gonna I'm gonna make a lot of money shot closer to mom or dad It's a good question. I'd say mom at this point my mom works for me She lives in Arizona 10 minutes from me. My dad still lives in Montana So my mom's lived here for the last or lived there for the last few years

Starting point is 00:56:56 I'd say we're probably closer who how do they view you fighting today? Yeah, they love it now. My dad is a you know, he'll walk past someone's hey You want a picture and they'll be like, I don't know the fuck that is He loves it. He'll wear sugar shirts sugar mertz all day He loves it. My mom she she just she I don't know she doesn't really watch it She again, she was always the one about money money money She runs she helps me get all my taxes stuff lined up for the accountant

Starting point is 00:57:26 So she she loves that she's like holy shit like these numbers are massive This is so fun. She loves being a part of that school So she really enjoys that and I don't trust anyone as much as I trust my mom when it comes to you know tax from everything Every thing I spend money on she's she's aware of it. She never really like don't buy this don't buy that sometimes I come home with a new Corvette she's like why do you like why do you do that but for the most part yeah she never really complains when I'm spending money but yeah about siblings you said you got four right so you're one of fourth yeah I know I'm one of four sorry

Starting point is 00:58:00 rather Michael my older brother he's 33 right now this Michael He was we're all four years apart. Um, I thought I completely cut off The like ability to love him and think that he's my brother because he was so far on drugs Meth bad my dad my dad was a detective in a cop back home in Helena when we grew up And he went on the beat, you know on a deep but off the deep end bad So there was years I didn't talk to him and if I did talk to him. He was you know, I'm in the Illuminati He was off the deep end. You're in the yeah, I'm the Illuminati people are following him is this that and blah blah blah But he just wasn't doing good for a long time and he was still in Helena

Starting point is 00:58:42 And I was in Arizona for you you know, six, seven years at the time, so never talked to him. I thought my dad was going to call me and say, you know, and if he did call me, it was like, Michael's in jail again, Michael got pulled away, Michael got DUI, Michael got, so I completely cut off emotional attachment to him. I thought for sure my dad was going to call me Michael dead, killed himself, got killed, and so completely cut off ties. And now he lives in Arizona sober by you Yeah, yeah, he lives. Yeah, I lives in Arizona lives with my mom right now with his son doing good working full-time sober healthy couple years sober and it's so weird to even still think I'm like damn That's my brother because for so long there. I was like

Starting point is 00:59:22 I basically didn't have it didn't count him as a brother. He was with nothing because I was I would send him books I would try to talk to him, but it was so it was pointless at the time. It was like there's just nothing to do But it gave him opportunity to come to Arizona and you know, we helped him and uh, but to fight that addiction It was it's impressive and inspiring to watch and it's you know It's doable not a lot of people can do it So it's even more impressive that he's done it and he's living it right now. But so yeah, Michael, my older brother, cool dude, little brother Daniel four years younger than me, book smart, smartest fuck, like completely opposite of me. Michael was smart too and math and like

Starting point is 00:59:58 in school wise, he was smart, but just didn't apply himself in those areas. My little brother did went to college. He's going to school now for chiropractic and other stuff like that. But Superbook Smart loves reading, loves studying, loves tests, good at all that stuff. And he's an athlete too. He doesn't play anything anymore, but he was good in high school football basketball.

Starting point is 01:00:19 He was kind of the star at the high schools. Kind of what I wanted to be, but never was. He was that guy. Interesting. And then my sister, she, it's been pretty cool cause she's a 21, no, just turned 22 I believe. She got a real estate license, shortly after she moved to Arizona.

Starting point is 01:00:36 I mean, she doesn't know what she wants to do. She kind of bouncing around, she's obsessed with dogs, loves dog training, wants to get a dog shelter, wants to take care of all the animals uh... is a really really good person big heart uh... she got a real estate license and i started by houses so it's kind of worked out like on buying houses she's making money

Starting point is 01:00:54 uh... and uh... so that worked out really well for her summer number one client but yeah what book did you send your brother when he was going through it i think i sent him it was a book i read but i was like a russle brand book i think it was like the nine was going through it? I think I sent him, it wasn't a book I read, but it was like a Russell Brand book. I think it was like the Nine Steps or something like that. I think I heard Russell Brand on Rogan. I was like, all this might be good for him. I said to have never got touched, but yeah.

Starting point is 01:01:15 Very, I mean, it's interesting that now one person in the family, would you say most of them moved to Arizona because you're the main one? I moved everyone down. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. Except Pops is still in a mountain of working on him work on it just loves Montana if you take more pictures he's got to go to Arizona he's gotta he's gotta come down trip yeah it's you know there's personal stuff there that I won't get into it's their lives to talk

Starting point is 01:01:37 about but yeah I'm trying to get him down there I'd love to I mean I got a little princess Michael's we got a son I would love that more kids it kids. It's like, you know, we don't live forever. Where do you want to be? So I'm trying to get them down here. I got everybody here right now, except for one person. And my dad is now here, my sister's here, my nephew, my niece, my kids, they all go to the same place. It's a very, I'm sure you're loving it

Starting point is 01:02:02 while you're going through it right now. And it's just gonna get better for you because you're just gonna make more money You're just getting started making money the money thing is gonna get bigger and bigger for you by the way Why do you wear such a small necklace? What's the story behind that kind of embarrassing because you are making a lot of money I think you'd want what's this was a gift. I don't know if kids are familiar with you will do course. Yeah Yeah, so, you know, that's rocking that but yeah, I do the jewelry thing a little bit not not too crazy I feel like the less when I was making less money. I was buying more jewelry and now I'm making more money

Starting point is 01:02:33 I'm kind of not buying jewelry as much like you know to get you get so many pieces You like and you kind of stick with that but uh going back to the making money. My goal is to have a compound I want to have the people That I want to you wanna raise my kids around and I want Tim and Mariah, my coach, I wanna be, I have five acres right now, four acres right now and there's five acres behind my house I wanna buy.

Starting point is 01:02:54 So a nice nine acre property would be incredible. I have Danny's mom, my girl's mom, my baby mama's mom, lived there, grow crazy garden and I have chickens right now. So I wanna build a compound and live with my people and train Jiu Jitsu and yes, that's the goal. We had Gina Carano here last week and she also has chickens.

Starting point is 01:03:15 She lives in Montana. Really? So she moved to Montana and you left Montana. You know, Gina Carano, the actress, I don't know if you know who she is. The Mandalorian, she was in UFC, right? She was a fighter. I was gonna say yeah. Yeah Wow Yeah, she said she got chickens and she's happy and I was like dude. That's that's chicken. There's some about it

Starting point is 01:03:33 It's so weird to go out there and you open up the little nesting box and you see, you know, ten different colored eggs It's so weird. It's like cuz probably back of the day you grab an egg. That's food That's you know, when you grab it does something to you and it's fun like taking Elena out there to go grab eggs is incredible Go going back to going back to boxing with UFC that we're talking about you. Do you follow boxing as well? Are you fully focused mainly on UFC? Boxing just doesn't really do it for me. Um Jake, I watched that. I watched when Logan had a couple fights I watched that I was very interested very entertained by that

Starting point is 01:04:10 But for the most part I really it's hard. I don't know I Just not super interested in boxing. It's I don't know if it's just because there's so many different Organizations, you don't know who's what weight class the way the class are weird. There was this So I don't really follow boxing that close. I don't really follow UFC that close. I'd say I'm more of a casual fan as far as like, I didn't watch one fight on the card last weekend. There wasn't really anything that excited me. I know Umar was on that fight, but it's just like, you know, I was getting my hair done. I kind of forgot about it. It's just like, so I watched the big fights. Forgot about. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:04:50 So you really not, not a fan of the, uh, watching what others are doing. Not a huge, yeah, not a huge, you know, I play a lot. I've been playing a lot of Call of Duty recently. Fucking love resurgence. Oh, you're ranking it. I'm not, I'm getting carried heavily. I like to play with, you know, even that's fun to watch the highest level. How sick are those guys, the slide canceling, the call, the, them heavily I play like to play with you know, even that's fun to watch the highest level game. Those guys, the slide cancel them, they were them talking, calling stuff out in there.

Starting point is 01:05:08 I mean, it's a, you got to be somewhat smart to be able to, it's like a strategy game to be able to know what to do. And also your hand eye coordination and it's fun to watch those guys play at a high level too. Are you, are you streaming? I stream on Twitch. Yeah. Okay. I play with, you know, comedian Eric Griffin. I feel like that sounds familiar. I'm on was he was Montez from more colleagues me and this guy dude, and we're older so I'm not as easy I'm playing with young guys. Yeah, so these dudes are just sniping moving and I'm like everybody's cheating. Yeah, everybody's cheating. Yeah, that's what everyone that sucks says Gonna see this my buddies that, they'll get killed.

Starting point is 01:05:46 He's fucking hacking. All right, bro, you just suck. Yeah, but you nailed it, but Pat, you don't understand the tactics, the movement, the setting up like bouncing beddies or the movement, your squad. It's a, people talk crap about it. It's strategy, yeah. It's strategy and your hand-eye coordination, bro.

Starting point is 01:06:03 It's not easy. Oh, I believe it. Listen, I was a kid that was obsessed with RPG games growing up. Really? All it was for me. I was final fantasy. Everything was like, can you, can you finish this? Or the Zelda back in the day Zelda or fester's quest or there was plenty of like old school, old school, you know, RPG games. But I totally see the strategy part of it. Challenges. You can be really, really, the other day Tico showed me this Roblox thing, the biggest Roblox build. You showed it to me too.

Starting point is 01:06:31 You showed it to you? Put the biggest Roblox. I didn't even know what Roblox is. I've heard about it. It's like you could build an entire city. Which one did he show you, Pat? Oh, he showed me one that was like 21 million pieces. Jesus. Yeah, and I'm like, how long is it going gonna take you to build this but dad think about it. What if I build it and we have the biggest piece and where I'm like buddy but tell me what did the do

Starting point is 01:06:52 you collect rent from everybody that's in that building? Yeah I just build it faster now. Oh 100% yeah. But but okay so on the so on the boxing side you're not really following anybody even if I told you names you wouldn't know like do you know Ryan's fighting Devon do you know the names of them fighting each other do you know I know I know right now you're fighting I've never watched I've talked shit Devon hey I've talked shit to a lot of different boxers Devonte Davis so I could name like Devonte Haney Garcia Lomachenko and Tiff the Lopez Tifoma or whatever I can name those five so okay

Starting point is 01:07:25 Who do you have Haney or Garcia? Are you able to say who you think's gonna? No, I've never watched and I should have I should probably should watch Haney box before I talk shit and say I can knock him out So I can get a better idea. Yeah, you know, but I've never watched him fight I've watched Ryan fight Juventa. He got hit with a you know a nice body shot I think I've watched He got hit with a nice body shot. I think I've watched Jervonte fight a few different times But I'm talking less than probably five fights. I've watched five fights. Well, no cuz Connor Floyd

Starting point is 01:07:57 Super into that one. Yeah, I did watch Tyson Fury versus Francis So I guess I've watched a few here and there but they're the big ones I'm watching There's been times where Haney fights and then like we go, we do a podcast on Sunday and we'll have our producer kind of write a little list of notes and be like, okay, talk about Haney's fight. I'm like, I had zero idea. He fought and I'm not, I mean, it sounds like I'm stabbing, I'll throw in shade, but I don't know if boxing does a good job promoting it. I just don't know if I, yeah, I don't know. I think it's just a different community. You know, if you're interested, you's just a different community. If you're interested, you're gonna find it.

Starting point is 01:08:25 If you're not, you're not. I've got all these guys know I'm fighting Saturday night. Oh, they know. So going back to what you were saying about fighting and knowing who to fight next, is any of your strategies, strategy to take, kind of like Mayweather took? Because in boxing, the difference between boxing and UFC

Starting point is 01:08:45 In UFC you're pretty much choosing your fights right like Dana's not calling your guy or your manager Dana's calling you right Everyone's different. I don't have a manager. I deal with all my own stuff. I sit down with the UFC I negotiate my own deals with Emron who's doesn't consider himself as a manager. He does a lot for me, but he's more of a mentor, advisor. But I do all my own deals with UFC. You're saying the gentleman I met, the Pakistani friend from LA? Yup. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:15 Super lucky to have met him and he owns Sanibel. That's how we met, was he offered to sponsor me back in 2017 early on. And so we've had a really- So this is a true believer. He fully believes in the product of the- Believed in it before a lot of people saw it. me back in 2017 early on and so we've had a really true believer he fully believes in the product of believed in it before a lot of people saw it and hard to find guys like that very very very hard rare rare but yeah I do do all my

Starting point is 01:09:36 sit down with you see but as far as picking your opponents no not really I mean after certain fights you can make good callouts if you sit on the mic and you say what you know And you say something and people to get behind it like you can pick your fights in that sense But as far as like Hey Dana, I want to fight this guy like if it makes sense for the division after I fought Pedro Munoz It wasn't went to a no contest which I count that as a win It's that uh, I called out Peter Yon who is ranked number one

Starting point is 01:10:03 I was ranked number eleven that doesn't usually happen but literally two through ten were these is all fighting each other so eleven and one made sense ish because i was me exiles you know how to get pretty good name peter yon accepted the fight which he didn't have to do because he thought he's gonna run through me and uh... so yeah but uh... uh... and uh... in a sense you can pick your fight get a good

Starting point is 01:10:23 call out put on a good performance You know so are you glad Peter took that fight when you 11 to 1 you call on the mouth and he said let's fight Yeah, 100% I mean there was no one at the entire division was booked up It was a pretty much you know I could fight for the title if I go out there and put I got a question for you So so if if umar does something that you did would you take his fight? Well, I'm the champ right now. So if they offer... no not right now it's not a big enough fight it's a dangerous fight

Starting point is 01:10:48 he's very skilled but he has to it's not a big fight. Mivir's Marab is a bigger fight, Mivir's Corey is a bigger fight, Mivir's Ely is a bigger fight. There's too many... You think so you think those are bigger fights? Then Umar right now? Yes. He's only like two and only a C or something he's only fought a couple times. Yeah. The name Nurmagomedov that's huge forum. So he doesn't have to do that much more work. I feel like Dana could promote the hell out of this. I feel like if there does UFC ESPN 2021 for, yeah. So I feel like, I feel like that would be a,

Starting point is 01:11:18 a fight that would be promoted. It will be, it will be a big fight, but it's gotta be, he's got to go out there and he will, he'll go out there and put good guys out he'll go beat good guys That's gonna build it. How old is he is he are you guys about the same age or is he over? So 31 or is it 28? Okay, so one year apart so yeah a little bit younger. Yeah, yeah You're 94. He's 96 and you're October. So yeah about the year and a half two years apart Yeah, is there part of your is there part of your fighting, by the way, with camps? Is there a camp where you say that's the most respected camp to go up against, or is it more individual rather than camp?

Starting point is 01:11:57 I think the Russians right now, the Dagestanians, are kind of looked at as the killers of the guys. But as far as camp camps go, I'm not super familiar with like the killers of the, you know, the, those are the guys. But as far as camp camps go, I'm not super familiar with like, oh, this guy trains here. This guy trains here. This guy, I got, I'm not, I don't really pay attention to that. You don't pay attention to that. God, yeah.

Starting point is 01:12:15 These are the bear fighters, right? Is it the wrestling bears at nine years old? Yeah. Like who does that? Yeah. Yeah. No, when I talked to Khabib and I'm asking him like We had a month you Yeah, and I'm asking him on like the mindset do you okay?

Starting point is 01:12:32 So for example, let me ask this other question from you just curious you seem like a fun guy Okay, you seem like a guy that probably is fun to party with right you seem like a guy that Maybe not today maybe out you maybe a few years ago, but you seem like the kind of guy that if we went and partied, we're probably gonna have a good time, okay? Yeah, Sunday. Sunday, yeah.

Starting point is 01:12:52 Sunday morning, 11. 11, that's right. Bob Russ is performing. So, okay, so do you think one of the biggest edges these guys have is that there is no alcohol, pure training, seven days a week, no partying, no clubbing, and the standards they have, the expectations they have, the pride and winning for their country. Do you think that it's their biggest edge

Starting point is 01:13:18 to have, they have over their competitors, where to them they don't take their competitors seriously because they're like you're just not willing to sacrifice at the levels that we are. You think that's what their edge is? Ah, I think it could be, you know, argued, debatable, but I do think life's about balance. And I know for me, I go 100% discipline in camp, and then out of camp, I go a little bit, you know, go to the club a little bit here and there,

Starting point is 01:13:40 I never get too crazy, but there's a level of balance that I feel like is very important, and I feel like could even be argued as more of an advantage balancing it. You think so? Because you get into camp and you, you know, camps, I'm ready to be out of camp after camp, I'm ready to kind of chill out, but if I have to just get right back to the same shit after I fucking just go out there and knock this dude out, I want to enjoy a little bit, I want to be, go off, you know, it's a pendulum, right? It's like so disciplined, then you have a little freedom, and then he comes back,

Starting point is 01:14:08 and it's like kind of this balancing act where these guys are just constantly, I mean, crazy question for you. No, crazy question for you. Crazy question for you. Okay, we have a software that comes out. Okay, we're in the software. Okay, we can enter in sugar, Sean O'Malley. Okay. And on the right side of the software, we can minimize the percentage and hours of partying and maybe being the casual side and then increase the level of preparation and discipline kind of like how these guys are doing it. What if we ran the simulation and we're sitting then we have this technology underground in a vault, right? That we go into literally where we are right now, but I press a button, this thing opens up, we get in the elevator,

Starting point is 01:14:52 we go 40 stories down, our guy enters it in, we say, hey, can you run a number here? If Sean went on a five year run, a hundred percent obsessed discipline, the only other distraction is his kid, his family, and that's it, zero party alcohol, nothing. Run it and let's see what this looks like. And then it goes to 2030. Let's just say, let's go on a six year run 2030.

Starting point is 01:15:26 And it shows that 2030, Sean O'Malley, Burned out. No, no, but I'm, but I'm asking you, it shows that at that age, 2030, you choose to retire 35 years old, but you retire fully undefeated. You've made a hundred million dollars by 35 years old. You didn't do it by 40. You actually did it by 30. And not only did you make a hundred million dollars, you made 150 by 35 years old, but you missed that on a lot of partying. You missed that on a lot of other things. You missed out on a lot of that stuff. And you end up becoming

Starting point is 01:15:57 as somebody that people say, dude, this guy, you know, for this class and that class, for sure he's on a mountain brush more of that, but pound for pound, this guy is a top five, top 10 of all time. Let's just say these are the types of discussions because, you know, top 10 is a very big deal. People follow the sport. It's a very hard list to get onto under the top 10. I'm not even saying top five. I think 10 is a hard list. Then the other side, we score it even 20%. We bring it down and we increase 20% the partying side. And we look at that and it says, yeah, you know, it's a top 30 and had a few losses and it just, you know,

Starting point is 01:16:33 he ended up, he was good fighting. It's gonna be, with that, if that technology exists, obviously it doesn't. If it did exist, would that at all influence you to say, yeah, you know what, I'm done with partying for six years because I wanna have this legacy, or you'd say, I don't give a shit, I'm still gonna go the same way? No, I wouldn't party.

Starting point is 01:16:52 I don't, I think I'm gonna get on that one list the way I'm doing life right now. I don't party that much. It's not like that crazy. You know, and it's after fights. Like after a fight, you can't, you're not gonna get right back into camp anyway for the most part I ideally I go out

Starting point is 01:17:09 there KO G don't I'm fighting in September so give me a you know month off month and a half off and when I say off it's like depends what kind of injuries if I can train I'm gonna go in and train it's not like I'm just sitting at the club you know and then I wake up I'm like where the fuck am I and then I go back to the club again no no the only reason I'm bringing this up, only reason I'm bringing this up is because to the average person when you're explaining the Kabeeb mindset and the way they train or the Kobe mindset, like AI just had a nice tribute. I don't know if you saw the tribute that came out, it's going viral. It's everywhere.

Starting point is 01:17:41 He made a sick tribute about Kobe and Kobe would tell the story of, yeah, you know, after the game, I was like, Hey, go to the club. So it's a Kobe drops me to the club. We have dinner. Then drops him out at the club and says, Hey, so, what are you going to do? I'm going back to the gym for what? I'm going to go. I missed a few of my shots here in the corner. Oh shit. Okay. All right. Sounds good. So AI probably partied much better probably smashed way more Probably has better stories probably has a lot of things But top five Mount Rushmore, you know, cope is gonna be part of that discussion and yeah, this doesn't mean a burnout because You know, it's it's the idea of

Starting point is 01:18:22 Like when Kobe, I don't know if one of the articles Kobe talked about, things gonna change with LeBron when he has kids. And it did, right? Where it's kinda like life changes. You talked about this as well when, you know, when you started having a kid, you're like, what am I doing? Why am I going through this?

Starting point is 01:18:34 What am I doing with this? Like, you're naturally making some evolution to your own game. I'm just talking about, with a Sean O'Malley, probably, I don't know, people could easily say the most exciting fighter today to watch. Okay. And that's not like overselling it, right? You're super exciting.

Starting point is 01:18:52 Not only the weight class, we can put, you know, Coms, we can put all these other names that, OK, these are also exciting guys to watch. Would you be willing to go to the, to the, you know, Dagestan, like the, the Khabib level of discipline for the next six years to lock in a spot as a top, then would that be worth it to you? That level of discipline. Yeah, 100%.

Starting point is 01:19:13 And when it comes, I mean, we don't know, I mean, we can assume he's, we don't, you never know what people do behind closed doors, not accusing any of those Dagestanians, but I've heard, you know, it's like people have been there. It's not like, you know, it's they're, they're human. They're not fucking sitting at home when they're not doing anything. No, no, for sure. They're human. I would argue my level of discipline in campus just as much. You think at their level, you're thinking your mind is at their level. Okay. Can I challenge you on that? Yeah. Okay. Just again, you don't have to receive it. I'm just kind of, we're talking openly anyway. So, you know, you know, early on in my career,

Starting point is 01:19:48 when I was coming up in an industry that nobody watches, it's called insurance. There is no highlights. Okay. Nobody says, look at the way he signed that contract. Tonight, Vincent O'Shaughna signed 17 policies at this event. No one gives a shit, but there is an element of competitiveness because it pays very well. You can make a few hundred million dollars, you can make tens of millions of dollars.

Starting point is 01:20:10 It's a very lucrative industry. And there were moments where I would ask myself while I'm going through it, what is the difference between the edge of having confidence, khy, and blind spots for me to miss out or not miss out. So for example, you'd run appointments, you'd come home at 11 o'clock, you're like,

Starting point is 01:20:34 I don't know for a fact, I outwork my competitor. And you were wrong. You know, like, oh shit. Versus like a Ali versus Frazier back in the days. It's like, Hey, man, I'm training at 430. Why? Cause I know that guy's up. So the mentality of saying, I think that guy's up earlier than me.

Starting point is 01:20:51 I got, I think that guy's preparing more than me. I think versus no, I got him. I know for a fact that balance. It's not just UFC. It's anything in life. It's business. It's boxing. It's sports.

Starting point is 01:21:02 It's Hollywood. It's all of that stuff, right? Where rock has an element of that, you know, Rock, when he first went and met with his agents, had dinner lunch with his agent the other day, spent a couple hours, two and a half hours together, and like great conversation. And when Rock first met with them, they said, who do you want to be? Have you heard this story? What he said to them? He says, I want to be Will Smith, but bigger. Okay. And they said, really? He says, yeah, I want to be Will Smith, but bigger. Okay, and they said really it says yeah I want to be will Smith, but bigger and guess what he became bigger

Starting point is 01:21:29 He's the fifth most followed person on Instagram. Yeah, I don't have any followers. He's got 400 million followers I don't what he's done. I mean, it's crazy shit when you think about it, right? How many followers does rock have on Instagram? Can you Google this insane? I don't know what the number is but but You know What is the number? Yeah, 397 million followers. What is that worth? He's already a billion. He's not, they haven't announced being a billionaire, but he's already a billionaire in the making. No one's questioning that, right? So I wonder what that's worth. Is he at a level of focus that's different than his peers? Slightly more. Is he at a level of focus that's different than his peers, slightly more?

Starting point is 01:22:06 Is he in the back of his mind saying, hey, I bet Arnold was doing more at this phase? Because you know, Arnold would be one of the guys that he wanted to pass up. I bet Wilson was doing this. I bet that guy's doing this. I bet this guy's doing this. That's the part where how do you balance thinking?

Starting point is 01:22:19 I'm already on track. I know I'm doing versus maybe I'm not. Maybe I'm, maybe they're more prepared than I am. What do you think about this? Yeah, I mean everyone's also so different in a sport like fighting. It's like Someone could be a little bit more disciplined than the next and then their opponent and still get knocked the fuck out So it's like I don't think whoever it's not the who's more disciplined wins In life, it's you know don't think whoever it's not the who's more disciplined wins in life

Starting point is 01:22:45 it's you know right time right moment right preparation but it adds an element to it right it gives you an edge I feel like I feel an advantage going into fights that I'm living healthier that I'm living a better quality life than my opponents I do I do feel that and I felt like that for a long time as far as I got a nutritionist Dan Garner who's been analyzing my blood stool saliva hair piss all my stuff multiple times a year making sure I'm eating the right Diet so I'm not causing inflammation. I'm not eating stuff that's causing inflammation so I can train more I feel like that's a huge advantage Cold plunge at my house sauna at my house hot tub red light PMF machine shockwave machine I have all this stuff at my house that I use my house, hot tub, red light, PEMF machine, shock wave machine.

Starting point is 01:23:25 I have all this stuff at my house that I use daily. Sick. And I've been doing it for years. I've been on the cold plunge wave for six, seven years before kind of everyone had a cold plunge. So I feel like I've been doing a lot of this stuff for a long time that a lot of people are kind of starting to do now.

Starting point is 01:23:40 To where I truly do believe it gives me an advantage. And the same thing with discipline and all that. Yeah. I mean, that's the part about competition and capitalism. Because at the end of the day, it comes... Like, I got four kids. I got 12, 10, 7, 2. I don't have to tell my 10 year old that guy is just freaking Monoical right like we know how I said how somebody become a fighter a either father bad relationship either bullied or either gangster or either Natural athlete or something like that, right? Those are typically the reasons why somebody ends up becoming one

Starting point is 01:24:21 We don't have a gang in our community, right? We live on an island It's tough to have a community gang in the community we live in. But you can tell this guy's got a chip that he wants to do it for a reason. You know what's a fight? Well, he does jujitsu. He's'm watching it live. But I respect the picture. You're in the moment. Yeah, but the biggest thing is, you know how the market works? And sometimes it takes us 10, 20 years to realize what we were doing behind closed doors.

Starting point is 01:24:57 There's one thing that never lies. The market will never lie. It will never, ever lie. We can claim, let me tell you what I'm doing behind closed doors and let me tell you what I'm doing. The market is eventually gonna be like, dude, he was right. Or the market's gonna be like, no, he wasn't right.

Starting point is 01:25:12 You know, like right now, I had Ryan on a couple of weeks ago and I'm watching what he's doing. I'm like, what is he, I don't even know what he's, I'm concerned for him. I'm sincerely concerned for this guy on what some of the stuff he's posting, some of the stuff he's,

Starting point is 01:25:23 I don't know if you're following any of this stuff that is, I don't think you are. Did you see, did you see the reason? Some of the stuff he's posting yeah some of the stuff He's I don't know if you're following any of this stuff that is I don't think you are see Did you see the reason the stuff just doesn't make I think he's a young kid 25 Yeah, good-looking kid made a lot of money. No, we're not taught how to be famous I slowly over the years 21 22 23 made a little bit more money at a time got a little bit more popular at a time This dude's you know making millions of dollars 25 years old pride doesn't have good people around him that's one thing I pride myself on is everybody in that room over there that's watching this next door is just good

Starting point is 01:25:52 quality fucking people that are you know there's not one person over there that doesn't help me in a certain spot to where he you know hanging out with maybe not the right crew I don't know personally because I haven't seen it but I'm assuming you know I very well could see myself being that guy with the wrong people around me. And it's, you know, we're not taught how to be famous. I know you guys have some few going back who would win this fight. He would not get, what feedback would you give him? Let's just say if he's watching this, what, what feedback would he, he's not in your space. He's not in your industry. What, what feedback from

Starting point is 01:26:22 experience would you give him? What you just said right now is very powerful because he probably relates to it. What feedback would you give him to make some adjustments, if any? Yeah, I mean, I think he has kids. It's like my number one thing that I think is the coolest thing about me is how much time I get to spend with Elena. Like I get to, I don't work 40 hours a week.

Starting point is 01:26:38 I don't, you know, when I go to the gym, she comes with me. Like I get to be around Elena a lot and that's where I feel the most peace and most like happiness If you're not sleeping good if you're staying out late Like sleeps the number one thing hands down for anxiety depression anger any that thing I believe sleeps the number one thing sleeping right eating right. I'm sure he's probably eating right I know he's got a big fight coming up. So maybe he's sleeping good eating good, but

Starting point is 01:27:04 Yeah, I'd say just being around the right people is the number is one of the biggest things to just have a good head on your shoulders. Yeah, I just see too many weird chaos going on in his life. Like, you know, Could be a phase. But even that, even that, even that clip that you showed when he's on that, on the, you have started talking about

Starting point is 01:27:22 he wants to fight him, didn't look he was like Tweaking a little bit like he looked a little weird right there You got it You got to find me and my coach Tim did a skit of him and Oscar de la Hoya in the behind the scenes at the M.A. Hour. Did you see that? Could you could you pull that up? Like gosh. Yeah, there we go. This is this was Ryan and Oscar de la Holla before they went on the show Let's get out of here. Fuck, I'm fighting him. I'm not fighting him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he's still on the other side.

Starting point is 01:28:10 I'm not even gonna call him. It's not fair to me. So, yeah, cause Oscar's talking about fight data. They're clearly doing a little book or show here and everyone, you know, it's all fun and game. But I think he could be going through a phase. I he's trying to fit in he's trying to sell a pay-per-view I get it there sometimes I want to be crazy and say some shit that I might regret to you know sell a pay-per-view like I could be a character do say some shit just a and I think he's in that position right now to where he

Starting point is 01:28:37 wants to be the most famous guy in the world but so you gotta slowly you know do that by knocking people out do that by you know let the work show Yeah, which he has been doing good. You know he's been fighting obviously lost to Javante Davis It's by four. Did you see this? Did you see this? I think this was yesterday Pat Something came from from Ryan Garcia's it was on his Instagram It was like something cryptic where he's like oh and he's trying to run out of a room and then apparently nobody's heard from this guy Did you see can you can you show at? I don't know what this is. It's just him and his this Ryan Garcia and it's somebody messaging we got him RIP Ryan Garcia.

Starting point is 01:29:14 Yeah, this is trolling his audience. You think he's trolling? He could be his trolling his audience. That could be his trolling this audience. Look, what is this year? And then this one said, we got him boys, Ryan Garcia, RIP bitch. Dude, all this was like literally all over social media. This is on his account. This, that video was on his and then somebody posted Ryan Garcia RIP. I say, there's a part of this where, you know, he may be trolling and just acting, you know, for whatever reason, like to bring attention to the fight, which by the way, I will tell you, when him and Haney are facing each other, I like it.

Starting point is 01:29:50 I mean, it's good, it's selling the fight. It's exciting. But there's a, I don't know. I mean, look, when I watched Mayweather selling a fight, okay, the way Mayweather sold the fight. Legend. Legend, right? The way Mayweather sold the fight. Legend. Legend, right? But guess what?

Starting point is 01:30:07 Mayweather never, he sold the fight in a, Mayweather's in his ears. There's no way in the world Mayweather probably supports his behavior. I don't think he does. Agreed. And if Mayweather's in your ear and you're doing this, by the way, partially, I would be like,

Starting point is 01:30:25 hey Mayweather, if you're in this guy's ears, what kind of influence do you have over this guy? So I bet, listen, if I'm in someone's ear and they behave like this, I would publicly, if I've had multiple conversation and this continues, I would publicly say, hey guys, you know what they know what typically do? They know what publicly say, no, no,

Starting point is 01:30:40 he's not listening to anybody. We can't get him to listen to anybody. And he's done that many, many times because Dana loses credibility. So the more he acts this way, May, he's not listening to anybody. We can't get him to listen to anybody. And he's done that many, many times because Dana loses credibility. So the more he acts this way, Mayweather's losing credibility. I don't know, I'm just not liking it. And I'm only saying this because I like this kid.

Starting point is 01:30:53 I actually really like this kid. I don't like what he's, what he, I've texted him early, I'm like, hey, I don't know. I'm not, I don't know what's going on with him. I don't want to see this behavior taking place. I think 420, there should be a good fight. It's in fight It's in what five six weeks six weeks a little over six weeks. Yeah crazy. He's acting like this. Yeah six weeks out This doesn't make any sense to me to act like the six weeks out and he can actually beat Haney You know, you know what the record is fighting each other the fought six times. It's three and three. Oh as amateurs

Starting point is 01:31:22 Yeah, they're fought each other six times. It's three and three story line right That's a very good storyline So this is you can build this up and you know get it in a way to go that the audience is gonna want to see it But I don't I just don't like what sad. Yeah Hopefully again, it could just be a phase. I mean you go through phases everyone goes through phases But hopefully you don't get too deep in that phase that you can't come out Yeah, look you see boxers do it all the time. I mean famous people in general just go off the deep end never really come back.

Starting point is 01:31:49 Well the La Jolla went through it. Yeah. The La Jolla went through it. Yeah exactly still is. By the way the La Jolla against Dana. If this is not a question if they fight. This is not the this is not the question if they fight. This is who do you think has a bigger gang? This is, who do you think has a bigger gang? It's a gang. What's a gang? Not a gang. Gang. Okay. Like what the fuck is a gang? Are you setting me up here motherfucker? What's a gang is like a Russian word for your dangling.

Starting point is 01:32:16 What is gang? I would know who's got a bigger gang. Who's got a bigger gang? Meaning who would fight for who who more who's Dana hands down easily? I mean that yeah Dana's a fucking legend I love being in the UFC being able to be on podcast be able to say a lot of shit even if I shouldn't say it I do say it and I have said it and I didn't get in trouble for it from Dana and you know NFL NBA You can't say certain things don't they see these guys coming on here talking about real shit They're very you know careful with what they tweet what they say and UFC gives us a platform to be able to be us be free and

Starting point is 01:32:50 That's fucking sweet. So yeah, Dana's the man Dana and Hunter completely changed my life to even give me an I wanted to be a professional athlete And obviously I want to be in the NFL be in the NBA didn't work out. It's like, okay Well, they have weight classes, you know little little dudes 135ers can fight and You know sell out arenas and be seen by millions of people and so to given this platform obviously Hunter Dana fucking it's it's Some is crazy that I get to do this. So yeah those guys the legends. Yeah, they're Dana is I've said this the greatest commissioner

Starting point is 01:33:28 Dana is, I've said this, the greatest commissioner we've seen. I think to me, he is the best commissioner. Love the other day. The guy's asking him this like six weeks ago. Hey, you know, you have your guys on a leash. He says leash. What kind of remember this whole thing about the leash conversation? Yeah. We're struggling. They were talking about recently. This is like six weeks ago. Yeah. They're like so you this some report it right here. Yeah, this is it You obviously give a long leash to your fighters You know what they can say when they are up there with the UFC microphone And you are getting into territory of homophobia Transphobia like is there I don't give anybody a leash. Well, I'm saying you a leash

Starting point is 01:34:03 free speech Well, I'm saying you a leash Free speech Control what people say Gonna tell people what to believe gonna tell people I don't fucking tell any other human being What to say what to think and there's no leashes on any of them? What is your question I Was asking that question I'll move on I was asking that question. I'll move on But honestly even being around Dana off camera just gets you fired up He's one of those people that you can be to be around and you want to improve your businesses

Starting point is 01:34:34 You want to improve what you're doing just being around that dude? He's constantly passionate about whatever it is and he just gets you fired up like that's the guy you want to work with It's like listen just be you just obviously. Like that's the guy you want to work with. It's like, listen, just be you. Just obviously know that you're working for, you know, you represent the brand, but as a man, go do what you want to do. They've never told me what to say, what not to say, how to sell a fight, who to call out, who to do this. They just, you know, be you, but we'll be us

Starting point is 01:34:59 and we'll fucking, if we work, we work. By the way, and I also don't see Dana not calling out his guys and saying, what are you doing? Like I see him also behind closed doors, making that phone call. Oh, I think so. Oh yeah, for sure. Direct phone calls. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:35:12 I definitely think he got it. Like, like, Sean Strickland might get like, like, Sean, I love you. I get it. Just a little bit. Yeah. Slow it down just a little bit. Yeah. I definitely see him do that.

Starting point is 01:35:23 But, um, Sean, I want to ask you a question. This totally random. I read this and I was like, wait a minute. I definitely see him do that. But Sean, I wanna ask you a question, this is totally random, because I read this and I was like, wait a minute, I definitely have to ask Sean this question. So you went to Mexico to get for stem cell for your knee. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, I do, I felt Pat Pat's like, no way this didn't happen. So you went there and then apparently somebody

Starting point is 01:35:39 was talking about stem cell for like the penis. And they were like, the penis. And you were like. The penis. The penis. The penis, the gang. And then apparently it helps with stamina and girth and everything. I have two questions.

Starting point is 01:35:52 Number one, did it work? Number two, do you still have that doctor's phone number? No. Cause I'm trying to come up. Well, yeah, so Tim and I were in Tijuana getting stem cells. I was getting stem cells on my knee. And one of the guys there was like, yeah, I'm getting my dick. And we're like, cells. I was getting stem cells on my knee and one of the guys

Starting point is 01:36:05 There's like yeah, I'm getting my dick and we're like what the fuck you get stem cells on your dick He's like yeah supposed to help you last longer. You'll be girthier And I was like and they out like we'll do it for free. I'm like Mexico in Mexico crazy CPI stem cells But then I remember I heard a fuck who was it? CPI stem cells. But then I remember I heard a fuck who was it? Um, it was this Ben Greenfield. I remember hearing Ben Greenfield talk about us and he's pretty smart bio hacker dude. Like he's very up to date with shit. And I remember he said he did it. Yeah. And cause we were debating Tim and Tim did it too. We were debating like, fuck, should we do it?

Starting point is 01:36:40 And, uh, and we, yeah, we ended up doing it. So yeah, just getting a needle in your fucking dude. Does it hurt? I'm obviously good. don't know I didn't feel good it just a little you know little needle and boom and didn't yeah didn't hurt too bad didn't feel great out or no no no you're awake yeah yeah I had a female doctor do it who was pretty attractive so it was just a bad it was like you're probably just like yo I don't work it with that fucking didn't work does it work I, what am I doing here? Oh no, so you're probably just like, yo! Oh, you're wrong. It doesn't work with, does that just fucking not work? Does it work? I didn't think, I think it's probably like anything where it's like you need, you need more pride,

Starting point is 01:37:12 but I didn't feel, my dick was bruised for a little bit, but it's like a, you know, a couple hours, maybe a day. You have like an ice pack, you're like, hey, butt. Like a post fight, like a post fight, the dick's like, I just, I don't know why. First of all, this guy at one of our events, I don't know if I told you this story. So he calls, he says, hey, I watched the way you walk. I've been following the content. I want to gift you something.

Starting point is 01:37:33 I go, okay, cool. What do you want to give me? You watched the way I walk. He says, I want to give you some stem cells. I say, you want to give me some stem cells? Yeah, based out of Beverly Hills, all this stuff. But, all right, so I'm going to LA for a wedding, Georgia's wedding.

Starting point is 01:37:48 So we go there, they give the NAD, they do all this stuff. And then he puts, first, a doctor came in anesthesia, I'm knocked out, Jen's in the room, they recorded 80 million stem cells in my lower back. That I get. What? Yeah, 80 million stem cells, each treatment was 10 million. They put 80 million into it. And I walked out, very weird sleeping at that, couldn't sleep all night. I don't know why. Maybe it was the NAD combination.

Starting point is 01:38:15 Would I just consider coming out of that partisan health? Probably a right. And it was late at night by the way, when we did that because I landed in LA, went to his place, did that boom, got back to the hotel at like one o'clock in the morning. That's probably not a good idea to do it at a time like that. But to me, if you wanna ask me, did the stem cells do anything to my lower back to make progress? Zero.

Starting point is 01:38:34 No, really. Nothing changed. No, nothing to me. I've heard mixed reviews, but to me, no problem. I've had good, I've done a Waste of Well in Austin, Texas. They've done stem cells on my knee on Tim's shoulder. They did it on Tim's Achilles. He just tore his Achilles like 12 weeks ago and he's walking around really good.

Starting point is 01:38:49 Oh wow. Yeah, I think, I mean, it might even been, yeah, 10 weeks ago, something like that, but he's doing really well. I've had good benefits from stem cells. He's having good benefits from it, but I've heard mixed feelings, but mostly I've heard good things about it.

Starting point is 01:39:01 So here's one of the guys I was talking to here. They said, the best stem cells You can get or not in America the best stem cells you get has to be outside because The regulation here doesn't allow it to be the most natural Important thing to put in your body and you have to be overseas to do it whether it's like, you know Who was the guy we had a guy on the podcast, you know who I'm talking about. I said, so when he said, look, man, I want to come to the podcast, but I just came from Turkey.

Starting point is 01:39:29 So what are you doing in Turkey? So what Turkey is the best place to go to get hair transplant, right? That's what I'm in Turkey. I'm like, oh, God, I know that. Great. What's the business model? 25,000, whatever it is.

Starting point is 01:39:38 And I'll get cool. Germany, I think Kobe used to go to Germany to get his knee stem cells in it. Not in the States, in Germany. So maybe part of that is the fact that in States is not the highest potent quality at some world. I've heard people argue this back and forth and I'm gonna probably not butcher it, but I don't know.

Starting point is 01:39:58 I've heard that that's not necessarily the truth. They can put way more stem cells in you out of the country than they can hear but there's no science that says more is necessarily better if you only need a certain amount so you need 10 million they put in the United States they put 10 million in you but in you know another country they put 40 million in you there's no real science benefits that 40 is better than 10 and then the 40 there is is the stem cells copied rather than the 10 million you're getting in the United States are all 10 million for like they're the fresh compared to the 40 million It's copied of the 10 million. So it's the I've heard it argued both ways

Starting point is 01:40:37 But the one lady that I was talking to in Texas and I'm sure everyone you know in Texas They're gonna say it's better and there but the lady in Texas Ways to Well that was explaining it to me made the most sense that not necessarily more is better. Well I mean in Texas it's becoming even more and more and one of the Texas is a sports state so you know it's always anywhere there's just Florida same thing here in California but one of my executives I'm not gonna give the position because my guys gonna So, you know, it's always anywhere. There's a floor the same thing here in California, but One of my executives I'm not gonna give the position because my guys know what this is because he bragged about stem cells that it really helped them out in many different ways including one of the ways you were Attempting to do it worked for him positively. Okay in a major way

Starting point is 01:41:19 But he said the best way to do it is to get pulled stem cells actually from your bone He said the best way to do it is to get pulled stem cells actually from your bone. So they literally drill you in the bone and you smell the drilling on your spine. Yeah, I don't know about that. Yeah, type in stem cells from your. I heard my butt, I don't have to be a pet. Type in stem cells and then put spine.

Starting point is 01:41:38 Spine, it's like Mike Tyson saying spinal. I broke my back. Where does it say that they get a drill from your back? There is injected stem cells, calls for, no. Anyway, so there's a, so yeah, so they get it from there. It's the best one. And then they can put it anywhere in your body. And it's the most potent way of doing it,

Starting point is 01:42:01 because it's your own. So the body is not having to convert somebody. I mean he was explaining to me and he's one of the most detailed guys. Zoom in a little bit on what that's saying Rob right there. Bone marrow. Oh dude. Yeah there you go. Bone marrow is a spongy material that fills the bones. These stem cells develop into the red blood cells, white platyelets, and red blood cells contain white blood cells that are part of immune system. Yeah, so again, this is why we are in a different business than this. We'll let the professionals do this.

Starting point is 01:42:36 Yeah, we'll let the professionals do this, but that is what the last conversation was. So Vinny, are you convinced that you're going to go ahead and do that? Is that what your plan is? I'm going to see if he has a phone number to Mexico. The pecker, the pecker one. Yeah, why not? Yeah, I mean, Rob, what are you laughing about? You don't want to come?

Starting point is 01:42:51 You're going to let me go to freaking. I mean, the border, it's a crazy situation over there, but I still, you know, why not? This is what I'm basically trying to say. Maybe even, maybe even you, you, you put like a before and after pictures. Yeah, there you go. Because my back is in bad shape too. So I'll get a twofer. Do you eat healthy? I eat very healthy All right. Yeah, so I'll take guys guys that question too because uh Sean you you used to eat a lot of junk food Oh, yeah, and you said it hurt your back. Oh, yeah, and that's up your back

Starting point is 01:43:19 I mean it messed up anything that was you know I'm going to try to wrestle and spar and then I go go home and eat a hot pocket and some fucking cheetos. It's just pure inflammation. There's no nutrients in that food. You know, it's just going straight to those injuries causing inflammation. And then you started to go, so you went vegan for a little bit. And it was messed up, but then you said you went back to me because it helped you feel felt like mainly your energy and your everything So you're back to I mean, oh, yeah, fucking you eat the good grass-fed grass finish You don't play games with any of that. Yeah. Yeah, I've switched to grass fed grass finish and a lot of this shit I learned on fucking, you know podcast listening to rogue and talk. It's like, okay

Starting point is 01:43:57 You can get grass fed at your local store, but it's not grass finished and it's you know So there's a big difference and blah blah blah. So yeah, I try to just keep up to date with that stuff, grass fed, grass finished beef and try to eat as healthy as possible. Any other questions you got about the stem cell, your health? Cause I know Dr. O'Malley's here. So take advantage of this with my mom was a nurse. Oh, she was. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:44:22 Perfect. Perfect. My dad was a cop. So I can, I'm sorry. can Can arrest you or prescribe you something one of the two anyways, it's a great having you on We're gonna see you this Saturday. Yep We're looking forward to it enjoy the show and even more than anything else excited about the next five years to see what's gonna Have with you really excited for it rooting because I think the game the fight game needs a Doesn't need it. It's always more exciting,

Starting point is 01:44:47 because what Dana's produced and what the guys have produced, yeah, I'll never forget what Michael said. It's the best compliment he ever gave to the game. I loved it. When LeBron first came to the league, LeBron was being interviewed about Michael and all this stuff. He says, I believe the NBA needs to permanently retire

Starting point is 01:45:03 the number 23 jersey. I'm like, oh wow, what a noble thing to say. And then they go ask Michael about it. Do you know the story of what Michael said? No. They go ask Michael. They say, so Michael, LeBron earlier said that he feels they need to retire your jersey permanently that no one on any team can ever wear the number 23.

Starting point is 01:45:21 Jesus. You know what Michael's answer was? Michael says, that's very kind of him. He says but the game is bigger than one player. I'm just one player. Wow. What a freaking guy. Wow. Because the league if it's a real good league and good guys come after it's a dare job to make the league better. You're gonna get judged on making a league better. 100%. And I'm excited to see who's gonna make the league better next. You're definitely one of the guys that makes us spend the money to go out there and keep watching this fight. And you got fans here, man rooting for you. Appreciate you for coming out. Gang,

Starting point is 01:45:54 we're doing a home team podcast. I believe Rob, are we home team tomorrow? Tomorrow morning we'll do today. This week we're doing five days podcast and Friday we have Chris Cuomo and Candace Owens at the club. that sold out very quickly But we will see you guys every day this week. Take care everybody. Bye. Bye. Bye

PBD Podcast - "Suga" Sean O'Malley Responds To Ryan Garcia's UFC Challenge | PBD Podcast | Ep. 374

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