PBD Podcast - The "Bourbon" Bowl | PBD Podcast | EP 90

Episode Date: September 24, 2021

In episode 90 of the PBD Podcast, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Gerard Michaels and guest Aaron Singerman to talk about topics such as Peyton Manning's bourbon brand, Manny Pacquiao running for president of the Philippines, Howard Stern and Joe Rogan, and much more. Watch the full podcast: https://youtu.be/KC7NH9OhKm8 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

Episode number 90 with our friend here Aaron's singerman good to have you on buddy. Thank you for asking. I was by the way for me Yeah, I was gonna have you wear a mask at first. I know you felt uncomfortable about especially since Arnold classic everyone's required to wear a mask. I wanted to make sure you felt comfortable Yes, yes. Thank you. Thank you for that. You know, I opted not to but it would it would definitely make me more comfortable Just to be breathing into the mask and be overheating. I can't, I'm about to errand for people that don't know your background. So see you on founder of Redcon. Our guys should go to your gym, you know, they swear by your gym. They say it's like the church.

You've been, you know, it's a sick gym for legit. You got to go to one of the things that he does where everybody pushes to see who maxes out the most bench press all this stuff. That's like a hot on 50 people. I got to be honest, I didn't like his gym. I like being the strongest guy in the gym. I was the strongest guy in his gym. I like being the strongest guy in the gym. I was the strongest guy in this gym. Yeah, there's some beast in the gym.

You know, he doesn't like competition. He's more socialist. He doesn't like competition. Yeah, he wants to go to a place where he's the man. He's got one of his trainers when I did the 525 press over here, which none of you people in the comments believed is real, by the way, but did the 525 press at your gym? One of the guy goes

Cool man good warm-up set and then he walks Seriously, yeah all under armor head to toe. He's like I'm just playing bro pounds it out You know you're big great comment by the way good for him good one You know you're big when you go to give a pound and this dude had to get around his pack to give me the pound If you're insecure about your body, Rhett Khan's gonna make you feel uncomfortable. People are in shape. Well, people aren't shape.

So tell us the story of Rhett Khan. Tell us the story of Rhett Khan. Oh, well, I'll have to give you the fast story, but the story of Rhett Khan is, I've been in love with sports supplements, really bodybuilding and fitness as a kid, and I was super passionate about bodybuilding and fitness. And I kinda got lost along the way

and had some problems with drugs, pretty bad problems with drugs. And when I finally got out of that life, basically, I thought to myself, what do I love doing? At the time I was a personal trainer. This is in New Orleans? Yeah, well in New Orleans, so I was in New Orleans, went to Batre Rouge to go to college,

even though I didn't go to college. That was the plan. I would anyway, I became a trainer there. And then I'm moving back to New Orleans and then Hurricane Katrina happened. And so I was evacuee for Hurricane Katrina and on drugs at the time and moved to Houston and I was living in a FEMA apartment

that was provided by the government. Oh, and Mollie. Yeah. I was spending all my money on heroin and no electricity, reading books by Candle Light for Entertainment in Houston in the summer, which you can imagine was gross. And yeah, and I eventually got out of that. And then that's a whole long story. But I got out

of that through some big cataclysmic event. And when that happened, I thought to myself as as a trainer to make money. That's what I always fell back on, being a personal trainer. I was pretty good at that and it paid pretty good and didn't require a lot of education, which I had never went to, I never finished high school. So while I was doing personal training, I had a guy there that I was really looked up to and he had a Porsche, I know, new 911 Turbo. And what year is this?

This is 2006. Okay, got it. So 2006 and 9-11, new Turbo six. Yeah, of course. Oh man. I always loved nice things, even though I never thought I'd afford anything. I always thought I'd afford anything. And so I went up to him and I said, man, how do I get a Porsche like that?

It was like just like off-hand combat. Yeah. And he goes, you'll never get a Porsche like that. And at first, I was like super offended. Like, I'm never going to get one, you know? And he goes, do you love personal training? And I said, I mean, I like it. He's like, do you love it though?

I was like, not really. He's like, I can tell. He's like, I love training people. I love coming here every day. I look forward to it. I read like, do you love it though? I was like, not really. He's like, I can tell. He's like, I love training people. I love coming here every day. I look forward to it. I read programs at night. I call my clients. I love it. I love every minute of it. And that's why I got the Porsche. That's why you won't get one.

And I was like, damn. Because if you know what a perspective that. But when he said it, how he said it, it made me really feel. I felt it. And I was like, damn, he's right. I'm not going to get a Porsche. And so he said, think of the things that you really love and figure out how to make money doing that. Don't be a trainer because you don't love it.

And I went home and I was real honest with myself and took a real like mental inventory because I was in that kind of state of mind. Just coming off a drug, like where, where am I going? What's the point of everything? And so I thought, what is the only thing I can think of that I love consistently from from 13 years old to 26 years old was bodybuilding. But as you know, bodybuilding is a genetic thing. So, being a naturally tall skinny Jewish guy, the potential to be Mr. Olympia, or to make any kind of money, as the bodybuilder is extremely limited,

super, super limited. And I'm sure you also know, the bodybuilders that make any kind of money at all, there's, you know, handful at most. So, what's the right height? Five, nine, five, 10, is that the height? Five, 11 is probably the really the, the, if you have great genetics, is probably the, Ronnie 5, it was, Ronnie 5, 11, okay, got it. Ronnie Coleman's only 5, 11? Yeah, yeah, but he's seven feet tall white. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think 5, 11 is the ultimate height.

Dorian was about 5, 11 also, you know, Lee Hayne was 5, 11, you know, so that's probably like the ideal, but you have to be able to fill it out. At 6-263, it's very, you have to be very special, genetically gifted person. You know that was the number one reason why I walked away from Bodybuilding? To tall. Yeah, to tall. Me too, pretty much. Me too, I mean, I tried and I...

Me too. Yeah, of course David. Thanks for the plug by the way, appreciate you buddy. Yeah, so instead, I realized there is money around bodybuilding. So I looked at the sport of bodybuilding. And I looked at people like Peter McGuff, who is the editor-in-chief of Flex Magazine. And people like, truly Joe Eater obviously

and Ben Weeter, two Jewish guys from Canada. So they created the world of bodybuilding. They crushed it, they crushed it. They're billions of dollars. And then other people that were surrounding the sport that I admired, like Dan Solomon, because he was doing pro bodybuilding weekly at the time, Bob Chicarello, and these guys were making money. Not a fortune by any means. No, no Joe Eater kind of fortune, but I said, you know, maybe I could do something like that. Maybe I could write, maybe I

could figure something out. And so what I did was I started right away, started sending articles to magazines for free. And I started posting on all these bodybuilding forms that really don't exist anymore now. We have social media. Instead of using a name like Swolegun69, I used Aaron Sigerman in hopes of like nobody was doing that. Unless we're a pro-bottles,

if it was a Sean Ray or something. Nobody ever put the real name. So I put my name in hopes of somebody noticing. And I would post any free time I had when I wasn't training people, I would be doing something actively to get into the bodybuilding and fitness world. And I did. And we did a radio show, a podcast, a hundred episodes of one called Off Topic Radio, and that led me to start working for Dave Pulumbo at RxMossal.

And from RxMossal. Good guy, by the way. Yeah, good guy, of course. He was out my boss for my last boss ever had. And I worked for him, worked my way up from doing the podcast with him to covering shows all over the world with him, to eventually taking over and being the editor-in-chief of the site and running all of the,

literally running the business. And during that time, I had a child, when my first son, Asher, who's nine, I don't think he met Asher yet. What a name, bro. I was one of the same, bro. Seriously, what are the chances of that? Yeah.

You know, Asher, like, do you know the history of Asher? Like the name? Yeah, I think so. What's the history? It's an Asherian name. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. King Asher. Like, Asher is like a very powerful name. I'm writing a fiction book right now. The main character's name is Asher.

Asher. Yeah. Very cool. Good name. And Aiden and Elijah. The three, my three beautiful names, bro. Thank you. Thank you. We, anyway, so when Analajar, the three, my three beautiful names, bro. Thank you. Thank you. Anyway, so when Asher was really, when she was pregnant with Asher, I realized that I wasn't making enough money to support a family.

And so for me, the dream was, literally, my whole life dream at that point was to make enough money having fun doing something I love doing. I wasn't like aspiring to buy anything fancy. How do you have gotten clean at this point? Yeah, I've been clean. By the time this point? Yeah, I've been clean. By the time I met Daria, I've been clean for a few years. So nothing good happened why I wasn't clean. I was doing intravenous heroin and cocaine

and it was like a mess. Like legit stuff, like the hard course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, intravenous for you know, I would do 100 injections a day of cocaine. Holy moly. 100 injections of cocaine a day. Yeah, well, I was living with a girl who sold cocaine. Uh, so she, her, uh, this is the whole, this is the whole story.

Well, the guy did tell you you got to do what you love. Yeah. I mean, I was, that was his advice. Yeah. Yeah. So we, uh, I met, I met a girl before Dario obviously. And she sold cocaine. Her, her boyfriend was her boyfriend or fiancee or something had been killed in a drug deal.

And so she didn't know what to do. She continued dealing with the people, not the people that killed him, but the people that he would buy it from. And then it turned out all the gang bangers loved her because she's this little tiny white girl, and they didn't feel threatened by her. So they loved dealing with her.

And I was just like, she can walk around Berber and Street, no problem whatsoever. Yeah, this isn't Houston, this isn't Houston. Oh, gotcha. You wouldn't want a little girl in Berber and Street, it's kind of dangerous, see? But, uh, unless if you were with her, you would be hard. This is a good one. You wouldn't want a little girl in Burberry Tree. It's kind of dangerous. I think this is. But unless if you were with her, you would be hard with that. 525 pounds.

I got beads. I got beads on beads. So that was the reason why is she ended up being able to give it to me for free. So that we had a kind of unlimited supply. Eventually, the reason why I left and changed my life was some friend of ours died in her apartment. And we got into this huge fight because she wanted me to move his body and I knew enough about you know watching off.

Yeah, that was a CIF. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got to watch enough red wanted to commit a massive felony. Yeah, she wanted me to move his body which you know, he died accidentally moving his body. She wanted to take it down to the truck and drive away and leave somewhere. What an appropriate guess right after Sammy Gravon. Yeah, this is very appropriate. which he died accidentally, moving his body, she went and take it down to the truck and drive away. And leave it somewhere. What an appropriate guess right after Sammy Cervantes.

Yeah, this is very appropriate. He's standing right behind you. So this hardcore man, that's hardcore. I mean, that's the literal definition of too much of a good thing or a bad thing, man. I mean, how long were you doing that for? I mean, that's very lucky to be alive, obviously. Of course, yeah, of course.

I was doing like really like the hardcore stuff for probably four years or so. Started with OxyCot and then kind of graduated up from there. And really I was doing OxyCot in New Orleans, but when we moved for Hurricane Katrina, I didn't know where to find it anymore. And so I literally went to the hood and walked around and asked for heroin. Well, I've heard that story so many times. So many ex-athletes, so many guys I played with, you know, great guys that, you know, they

were taking percuss at and they were taking an oxy just so they can play. They were never party and anything like that. I've talked about it extensively. And then the game's done with you and, you know, they're just, all right, see you later. And you don't get to tell your body, you're not addicted to the opiates anymore. And the next thing you know, a guy who was a first round draft pick is mainline and heroin out, you know two two years later You know, by the way the other day I interviewed a doctor who's a is a Opioid expert and he gave a TED TED talk so I had them on and the statistics in 2010

10,000 people died in America from opioid you know what the numbers last year. I can't even imagine 96 What thousand you had to be they lock people up with anxiety and pretty addiction and then let them out How much of that is due to all the COVID lock? Yeah, they just lock them in a room is the world even even the number in 19 was 49,000 But last year's spike apparently was a major spike people a lot of times one site said 72,000 one site said 96 So yeah, I don't know what you think about this, but a lot of the friends that I've dealt with and a lot of the people that I've dealt with

in my life that struggle with addiction, they really didn't even have a drug problem as much as they had a reality problem. They just didn't want to be in reality. They had to escape. They couldn't get out of their past. I don't diagnose depression. I think a lot of us go through it,

but some of us, we have a different source for escaping it. Some it's alcohol, some it's gambling, some it's party and Some it's alcohol, some it's gambling, some it's party, and some it's women, some it's pods, some it's prayer, some it's prayer, but in this case, it was, you know, a different to. But you do see, you do see this a lot also in that if people are able to reach channel that addictive personality into a positive environment, you'll work 20 hours a day when somebody, and not even think twice about it. That's the thing. So being addicted to heroin is a positive environment. You'll work 20 hours a day when somebody and not even think twice about it. That's the thing.

So being addicted to heroin is a constant job. It's like a job that never ends. You don't have a break. It was when you're either searching for heroin. You're doing heroin. And then immediately you're thinking about where are you going to get the next heroin in my case. And I was hustling to try to make money

to get money to buy heroin. Unfortunately, I never heard anybody or hurt myself. But I'm constantly slinging this to get money for that to buy more heroin. So it's never ending constant job. So Aaron, how skinny did you get at that 4-year prove? Were you pretty skinny or not? No, it's funny. The one consistent thing was going to the gym,

taking, when I was really bad off, my parents always didn't pay for much, but they got me a gym membership and they always got me protein powder. So until I was doing really cocaine, and I wouldn't sleep for days and wasn't even drinking water eating anything. Until I got to doing cocaine, I was, you know, a reasonable 220 or so.

You were 220 on heroin? Yeah, it didn't fit the typical thing, you know. Yeah, but then when cocaine, probably like 180. Got it. That's still big though, because the guys that I know who got on heroin or cocaine, probably like 180. Got it. That's still big though, because the guys that I know who got on heroin or cocaine, I mean, take the high difference. Just they get very, they just don't look healthy at all. Yeah.

But continue on how, how does it come about? So anyway, I was working for Pulumbo. I was the editor-in-chief, and when Dariel got pregnant with Asher, when we got pregnant with Asher, something changed in my mind. Just like when I was something changed with the drugs and seeing the body of my friend and that ended up where Jennifer was punching me in the face and I turned around and ran out of the apartment I never saw her again. She ended up being beaten to death a few months later by these same guys that chewed by drugs from.

So it was a wake up call but I was reinforced quickly after when I found out she had been killed. So from that to that kind of switch in my mind, happen again when I realized, Asher's coming, I can't just live on the minimum. I have to be able to provide. And so, once again, I looked around bodybuilding and found who's making money in bodybuilding,

it's sports supplements. I've always loved sports supplements. I've always been into them. I was taking them. When I was younger, I thought they were the solution to everything. I always had to have the aceto bowl taking them when I was younger. I thought they were the solution to everything. I always had to have the aceto bowl and the best, aceto bowl and the muscle tick.

That's what I needed. I thought that that was the secret. I just had enough metrics packets. I would be likely handy. That's really an animal pack back in a day. An animal pack. That's really what I thought. So I was always into supplements and the science of supplements.

And because of all the relationships that I built along the way with Dave Pulumbo traveling the entire world basically looking for, you know, the next relationship even though I didn't know it was gonna be, I didn't realize I was networking, you know, I was networking. And so as soon as I started looking around, realizing, okay, I can do something else.

I started becoming more and more into marketing and understanding digital advertising sales and the Google, the possibilities with Facebook as they were just becoming, you know, doing monetizing Facebook. And so I ended up becoming the marketing director for a supplement company. And that supplement company, I was there for about a year and a half before we ended up being able to save up enough money to start our own supplement company. And that company ended up being the 27th on the Inc. Fastest

growing, privately owned companies. And through that, I met a lot of other people, celebrities like Ky Green, Daniel and Bailey, Rob Bailey, C.T. Fletcher. And I started making supplement lines for them. So I would design the line. I would handle the marketing. I would handle the fulfillment.

Like label, tap a model. Or we come up with only four million. OK. I do only everything. And because most of these guys are getting some of them, the end of it, one point was making like four grand a month from MHB. She should have been making 50 grand a month when she was at her height of popularity. So I said, very easy, like, hey, your fan base is already buying all these shirts from the

company flag and her fill. Why don't you take that and cross promote it. You take those customers who are some of the tight. Some days they're selling 20,000 orders a day on their site. Why would you get four grand a month to sell somebody else's supplements, made as many of them make your own, right? I can handle it all. So, I started doing that and making other brands.

And then Red kind of one started with the other company when I left, I had a big partnership dispute in the past company. And when I left that, when I left, I did it instead of a non-compete. I did a compete. Like, hey, so you know, signing off, I'm going to compete against you. And my former partner didn't care because he just wanted to be the boss. And so when I left, I immediately started

RedCon one, and the idea was to take all of the successes of the past companies. And then, you know, take an honest look at them, and then, you know, really push those, amplify those, and take a look at the failures, and kind of remove them, you know, and take an honest assessment on what we really want to be, who do you really want to stand for? And then supplements, nobody, as far as I know,

and the history of supplements have really decided beforehand, what are they going to stand for, who are you going to be, create a brand package, you know, a brand filter to put everything through, and look at things, instead of having a really awesome, ingredient, really awesome product, have a really awesome brand that stands for something that people want to support the brand,

not just buy the awesome pre-workout or get a great deal. Your brand attracts a lot of military, a lot of veterans, veterans who love your brand, like Ripcon. Yeah, that's on purpose, I'm sure, yeah, I would bet. So in the beginning, before me and Eduardo, Eric Hart and a few other guys said that. Eduardo, is your former military now? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No, no, no, no. Okay. You looks like a military. No, no, no, no. All right. So it looks like a chief of staff. I'm not that.

Yes. Yes. He looks like a chief of staff. So anyway, when we sat down and starting another supplement company, as you know, there's thousands of supplements. Yeah. I mean, it's a very competitive space. There's new ones coming out all the time, especially now,

the minimum runs are small. So because people, like if you want to be the CEO of a supplement company, if you've got 50 grand, we can make it for you. you're going to be the company CEO and you'll have your own brand. And as a result of that, you have hundreds of thousands of brands every year that come and go. And I realized we had to have some differentiating factor that was major. It couldn't just be whatever new company blah, blah, blah. It needed to have something, a name that worked, it was catchy, it was short, it was memorable,

that was easy to spell, be able to get a great URL that was short, easy to spell. Ideally, having me in something, meaning full of the name, obviously you don't need that because you'll look, Amazon or plenty of companies just have a short name. So when we were looking for it, we were looking, we had two guys we wanted to put on the team,

two Navy SEALs, Brandon Cruz and Ryan Bates. These guys are on those charismatic, athletic, great guys, both of them work for Steve when they're a senior protection for him. They had two weeks on two weeks off, and so they had time to do it. So we had this bodybuilder, Dallas McCarver, who is this young phenomenon on,

and like this stud of a guy. He was a guy that was coming up. He passed away about 26 years old. I don't know how old he was, he was 26. He was a superstar. He passed out one time in a posing. His body locked up and he just couldn't fall. Yeah, in Australia. Yeah, in Australia. Yeah, he was great, great guy. Is that the

one where the criticism Chad Nichols got for Dallas? There was some kind of a, yeah, I don't know who it was. Sean Ray feud with Chad. I don't remember. There was something that was going on. Yeah, I'm sure of a Sean. Yeah. Can you guys take a minute on pack that for me? I don't know this guy. This guy died while he was posing. Yeah, if you can pull up as a just type in Dallas, McCar, Macarver Dallas MCAR and then he'll pull up. He was arguably arguably the most potential young bodybuilder in many, many, many years. He was six foot two and walked around at 365 pounds. Three sixty five. Put his first name Dallas. Macarver he's, uh, a competing over, competing over 300 pounds. There you go.

Yeah. Let's see if you can find a good picture. Okay. So I took that picture down to images. Yeah. Um, I mean, the guy's physique. He just, that's a picture. That's a going.

That was one of that and towards the end there. By the way, that's a 25 year old. Yeah, 25 years old. Think about that. He was 25. He was 380 pounds. How did he pass away? He had a genetic heart issue. Yeah, I didn't know.

We never knew, but both of his uncles, his mom told us passed away at heart attack in their 40s. So, I mean, I'm sure everything else didn't help being a pro bodybuilder and everything. But, you know, it was definitely a genetic thing. And was he pushing it too hard? Was his body fat to load it? That's the story some people say.

That he was kind of going above and beyond. Then what everybody else was going. But who knows? There's many different stories to this. I'm just speculating based on a lot of people. The truth is, too. Bodybuilding is an extreme sport. So they're all pushing it.

I mean, every one of them is pushing it. And they all understand that it's extreme sport. It's risky. You know, like, hand gliding or some shit. Yeah. It's a dangerous work. F1 racing. You've never heard of it explained that way before, but that's it. It really is.

I mean, you know, the body turn, you know, you're experimenting on yourself like a chemistry said almost. I mean, and you get something like insulin just a little bit wrong, and that's it. You know, it's out here. How big is RedCon today? How big in terms of plays or revenue? Give me all of it. Whatever that you're compression.

Where are the nine figures in revenue and heading towards our evaluation of close to probably about half a billion dollars right now. It's kind of amazing. 250 employees. And you are founder and CEO of the company. Congratulations to you. Thank you.

To go from that story to this story, this tells you capital's of work and America's a great country to be. Oh yeah, no. What a 180 story. So let's go to a couple of things, current events with your business. So I keep hitting this guys and the audio

is kind of getting a little bit, next time George, when you do it, move her further left. It's too close to my legs. So I'll tell you guys how I like that to be done. Okay, so you made a couple comments about Arnold. Arnold came out and says screw your freedom. And you're one of the bigger sponsors for Arnold in regards to the Arnold classic he does

every year which apparently a quarter million people show up and all have every single year when he does. It's a massive. Have you ever been? I have never been to Arnold classic. Yeah. I hear it's just something else. Even in some cases, even bigger than Olympia when it comes out to putting it shut up.

In terms of the expo and the amount of events there, they're not even close to be honest. The actual bodybuilding show itself, they're, they're, I would say the expo and the amount of events there, they're not even close to be honest to the actual actual bodybuilding show itself They're they're I would say the Olympia still ahead of course, but the actual event now it's not even close Why do you think that is you know, do you? Barnard has a lot of events there so everything from cheerleaving let me not go into Olympia's side because that always gets me in trouble I'll don't want to get in trouble uncomfortable with this so go back to Arnold classic so You normally sponsor and it's not like it's a $10,000 sponsorship or $50,000.

You're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a day every 200,000. What caused you to now want to support the Arnold Classic? So it's pretty it's pretty simple. You know, I saw that that clip of him saying, you know, if you don't wear a mask, you take a vaccine, you're more on our schmuck. And if it bothers you and messes with your freedoms a little bit, screw your freedoms. And it just really rubbed me the wrong way, me and my wife. I mean, we watched it, we were on a trip,

a vacation, my first week vacation ever. We went to Montana and then Wyoming. Nice. It was really cool, brought all the kids, and it was great trips. So we're on the trip and we saw the clip, and she and me watch it, and I'm like, you know, both of us watch it and we're like, damn, that really sucks that he said that.

And then the Arnold's coming up and they want, you know, they want us to be the exclusive sponsor of the webcast. We were one of the five main sponsors of the show. We were doing stuff with the after party. We were very, very involved. And the guy, the main guy, Brian Powers, who's really running the event right now is calling me texting every day. And it's like, for advice and stuff. And I was on the, or was going to be on the panel that helped Arnold and the advice to him on how to continue to grow the festival and stuff.

And I'm like, you know, I told him, I'm like, damn, this guy came from Austria, had nothing created this, the empire, this iconic brand, Arnold brand. Everything about him is great. I love him. I looked up to him as a kid. And now he says this.

And if he stayed in Austria, he wouldn't be a should. He'd be like a charismatic farmer or something, you know? Like what would he be? He'd be a police officer or whatever. I mean, what is the upside? What's the potential? The reason why he get famous is because Joe Eater gave an opportunity to move to America.

Him and Franco started their own business. And he went to college and he got, went to movies and became the guy. I mean, everything he's done is so awesome something that I really look up to I love Arnold's rules of success Great book about the total recall if you haven't read it. You got to retool recall Yeah, Arnold's rules for success. I mean, he's probably got a few hundred million views with that one speech he gives everybody That's great. That's great video. I love he I love the one of the ones I like the best is you know I think he's I think it's six hours of sleep. So if you need any more, you sleep faster. Yeah. I know. I love that. So that was the, that was the reason for you to step away.

So yeah. So seeing that, you know, it just, I needed to, I felt like it wasn't right to support him financially. Not that I didn't love the show. I mean, I'd love to be going next this weekend. You know, it's come up this weekend. I would love to be there. I love to, I enjoy the show. It's actually a good show for the brand. We have tons of fans that come, but it didn't feel right. It didn't feel right to support them. So I made a video that was very specific that I wanted to make sure that I'm not saying cancel Arnold.

I'm not saying don't go. Do what you think's right. Very classy, you didn't disrespect them. I didn't want it to be like that. And I wanted it to be, you know, where, because I'm obviously not for cancel culture. I just think that people need to support people or not support people with their dollars.

So as a business owner or even an individual consumer, like if you don't believe what the thing stands for, you actually are making a difference, you're able to vote by not giving the dollars. So to send them a few hundred thousand bucks, just felt really wrong. So that was it. We did the video and then the blowback was like,

incredible hundreds of stories from everything from USA today to Dealy mailed to the hill to everybody everybody covered it. But I mean, I'm a huge Arnold fan man and you know in all fairness to him You know, like you said he comes from Austria. So maybe you know English second language type of thing like maybe it's like Don't screw the made like maybe it's the opposite I don't know that's the stuff that I did It's like you know, he said like screw your freedoms the same way somebody said Arnold don't screw the made and he's like oh So screw the maybe no, I don't know maybe maybe that's what Arnold look you know In that the common when that common was made I mean I had Arnold's posters in my room for God knows how many years

I'm sure you do you know the posters. He's got. One of the best ones was the One Wood Muscle Magazine, black and white of him posing. It had it. It's beautiful, 24 by 36. I would buy all those magazines just for that. Just for that. When he had specials, you always bought the special muscle Mike Flex edition, Arnold edition, they would do.

He's standing on the RNC stage, screaming at the country, not to be economic girly men. Remember this? This was, he's smoking a Stogi. He's smoking a Stogi everywhere. He's smoking a Stogi. He tells you, you know, you can't smoke a Stogi in your house, I can because I'm a man.

You know, like this, he is the physical embodiment of freedom. He is the physical embodiment of, don't tell me what to do. And then he's got the absolute temerity, the gall to say, screw your freedoms. This isn't about you, because I am older and I've already lived my dreams, go stay in the house until I feel safe.

Screw Arnold, man. So, Corda, are these still expect that I have 250,000 people show up or? I seriously got it. So now they have the mask mandate where every single person in Columbus must wear a mask everywhere they go. You know, I'm saying predators?

That we don't know, that we don't know. I talk to them. Oh my gosh, those pictures are gonna be hilarious if they make competitors were a man I don't think they will I mean I talked to you my good friend they'll have more covering their face than the rest of everybody I talked to my good friend Jim Manion about it and he said that he does not there's no intention of having the word mask on stage so I sure I sure hope they don't because that'll be so ridiculous I know a lot of competitors are not happy about what does Jim Manion think about Arnold Classic well it's a second biggest show in the in the thing I know a lot of competitors are not happy about the, what does Jim Manian think about Arnold Classic?

Well, it's the second biggest show in the thing, I mean, in all of the organization, I think that he likes it for sure. I mean, I mean, yeah, I think he definitely likes it. So he's a supporter of Arnold Classic. Yeah, he's a supporter of the show, yeah, God. You said it would be ridiculous. I mean, just think about this, 18 months ago, right?

Like, do we even have a barometer for what is and isn't ridiculous anymore? I mean, in Jersey, I talked about this on the podcast a couple of weeks ago. Jersey, this is a true story. They were having kids wrestling in a wrestling tournament. But for COVID reasons, they weren't allowed to shake hands before or after the mat, then wrestle each other.

Oh my God. For eight minutes. Wrestling each other can't shake hands after the mat. It's, you know, because protocols. Can't shake hands at the map. You know, because protocols. So I mean, what like what exactly is ridiculous? I'm more like what's common sense? Do we even have a barometer on what it is? And it isn't? No, I mean, the fact we were in New York and they asked for the vaccine

passport at the at the restaurant me and my wife. And they're like, we can still sit outside. And we're like, okay, whatever we're hungry, right? So we walk in through the restaurant all the way through the restaurant to outdoor area. And then he sit down and we're like, okay, whatever, we're hungry, right? So we walk in through the restaurant, all the way through the restaurant to the outdoor area and they sit down and I'm like, we'll just walk all through the entire restaurant. And then when they came back and make,

so where do I go to the bathroom? She said, what's in the back over there? You just go back. Yeah, that's like, that doesn't matter if it makes sense. Chris Rock telling everybody, get it. But he got sick even though he has it. So get it so that people don't get sick, like the people who already

got it. Well maybe we'll talk about what Howard Stern said about Rogan. And by the way, apparently my episode would Rogan, apparently just went live like a couple hours ago. Pass competing against Pat. No, that's so fun because I'm getting text messages like we're watching a podcast, now you're podcast, I'm like, all good. People are clicking off now. I'm like, I All good. We're clicking off

So so we got we got some stories to cover with that, but The one thing I do want to talk about when you're talking about Mr. Olympia Who's more powerful in the bodybuilding world Jake Wood or Jim Manion? Jim Manion hundred percent not even close. Even though Jake Wood owns Mr. Olympia. It's not even how does that work? How does that work? Well, how was Jim Manion have more power than Jake would Jake would own Mr. Olympia? So how does everybody get to the Olympia? They have to go to the NPC and then they have to go to I have a Pro League shows. They have to qualify through Pro League show. So if There's no way the getting to the Olympia is the end result of all these steps. You have to go through first So if you removed the everything the beginning, nothing else exists.

Got it. So a Jim Manian, does he benefit from the owner of Olympia, doing a better job marketing with the team he had that they have or Jim Manian doesn't give a shit because whether Olympia does well or not, Jim's gonna make his money. No, he cares for sure. Jim's still a huge bodybuilding fan.

Oh, I know that for a fact. I gotta tell you, it doesn't matter who it is. Everybody that I talk to when the name Jim Manion comes up, respect for that man at the highest level. And I'm talking, including haters. Respect. He's a great guy. Look, ultimately for me, I've told him this before.

I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you if it wasn't for him, because I wouldn't have loved bodybuilding. I wouldn't have had that outlet to go through. I wouldn't have been able to go to all those shows with the plumbos. All of it is really predicated on his work. I wouldn't be able to go to all those shows with the plumb Oh, all of it is really predicate on his work Aaron. What happens to Mr Olympia if they go the way they're going right now because to me I Watch some of their marketing. I mean they got some guys. I've had meetings with I watch some of their marketing. I mean

You know if they go the way they're going right now I have more opinions. I'm curious. You know you're in the world I have a tendency getting myself and everybody curious, you know, you're in the world that you're gonna get me a truck. Let's get in the truck. I have a tendency of getting myself and everybody around me in trouble sometimes when we do interviews. But what do you think's gonna happen if they go the way they're going right now

in regards to marketing? Well, right now, I mean, it's a super tough time to have a live event. Obviously, the last year was a loser because you couldn't possibly make it profitable. This one that's coming up, I know that they did better with ticket sales and with Expo stuff. But I mean, obviously the big thing is the Expo is in general are tough in the future because people want to have an experience. The days of waiting in line to

meet Jay Cutler and get him to sign an autograph are so different. Now you can see Jay on your phone and you can interact with him and you can, you know, it's not, there's no value in getting a photograph with Jay Cutler signed, right? It's not the same thing. So there needs to be some innovation in terms of, like, an experience, like the NFL experience, you go to Super Bowl and they have an experience you're going to there. So I think there's something more to be done with that in the future. It's got to, because the old way of the expo is going to fade away. So if they go the way they're going right now, what could potentially happen on the straw and up your brand? Well, they go the way they're going right now.

The thing is, is that Jake Wood is a very wealthy guy, and I think it depends on his appetite for keeping going, you know, and like not being, you know, this is a hobby and he loves it, which I know it is a hobby and he loves it. It just depends on how far he wants to take it unless he does some stuff to change, you know.

It's interesting, because you were talking about it before, the kind of the older business model was, have a great product first, and then your brand will evolve into your product, like make the best stake in town and then that'll speak for itself. And now in the digital marketplace with social media, like you have to have a brand first, like what's our identity and then we'll find a product to sell to that market that, you know, identifies with our brand, right? So it's kind of, it feels like the Olympia from my

understanding is kind of that old-school mentality where, hey look, we're still the best, we're still the premier name and bodybuilding and that should be good enough. That should stand alone. And that's that's kind of how you get passed passed by. There's an entire generation. We were talking about this with Phil off the air. When I was a kid, I can name 10 bodybuilders. I can name 10. Off the top of my head, I can name people that never won. I knew who Marcus Rool was, I knew who Gunther was. He was in movies, bodybuilders were in movies, they were in barfes.

The guys did a good job getting their bodybuilders on camera and marketing them. So people wanted to go above and beyond for the guy that was running the store on the piece. I can't name three active bodybuilders. So who do you think is gonna compete in the store on the field this year? Who's gonna win or who's gonna compete?

Who's gonna compete? Brandon Curry's one. Yeah. Obviously, Rami, Brandon Curry, you got, I mean, let's see, I'm thinking of my guys. You got James Hollins head is obviously going to compete. He just moved down to Boca for the next few weeks. Yeah, it'll be fun. Rulie is going to be there. Rulie. And then who just backed out of the of the Arnold Is a hot you got honey. How do he's gonna be there? We'll have a bone act William bone act. Thanks for working William bone act Steve Cooke-Lo probably cuz he's probably win the Arnold cuz they're missing a lot of people doing the Arnold now

Cooke-Lo is gonna win Arnold I think so for him great guy by the way great guy very good He was just here to visit. Oh, he's a fantastic guy. I like him a lot He's a great guy. Who do you think's gonna win at this show? I think big Ramy's gonna win I think big Beiramy. Again back to back. I think so. I think so. You think he's gonna go on a run like a 5-6-7-8 Top of a run or no? I don't think so. But I don't know but the truth is there's a lot of young guys that are up and coming now and And it's hard to say it's hard. There's no there's no like outlier so like when Phil was coming up He was an outlier or you looked at him and you're like do you this guy is gonna win forever? We don't have him like that Do you have any desire to purchase Missoural Nippie

yourself and you run it since it's your world? Sure, of course. You would want to do it. Yes. What would you do if you were running it today? I would do a lot of things. You don't want to give the idea. Because you don't want them to do it.

Why would you give it to them? They got to at least give you something to do it. I would absolutely like to do it. It would just be fun for like, I mean, in terms of legacy, I would like to carry on that legacy one day. You know, if Jake Wood didn't want that legacy one day, you know, if Jake Wood didn't want to do it anymore, you know. Yeah.

Do you think it has what it takes to be a billion dollar brand by itself? I don't know about that. I don't know about that. The sort of bodybuilding, I'm not sure if it has that kind of, first off, there hasn't been a real big push. You know, they tried to do something, the rock tried to do something recently with the rock show and stuff. Athletic, huh?

Yeah, let that be, which is, who're gonna have to think that ever gonna happen. And then because of COVID stuff, very difficult to plan a huge event like that right now. And then, the fact that it is, it never really made it to TV. So there was one recently where they had like everything set up and it was at the Olympia and they had many cameras and everything and for whatever reason, it didn't work out and never got aired. I don't even know why, but it was supposed to be on CBS Sports or something like that. Being off TV makes a big difference.

When it was on TV, it exposed a lot more. Well, there's a guy that's using TikTok. I forget his name, I'll just try to look it up real quick. It's something with a D, he's hilarious. He's really funny. He's either German or he's some sort of Western European. And he's a bodybuilder. And he's got like, I think seven and a half,

eight and a half million followers on tiktok And he oscillates back and forth between doing training techniques and then like funny little sketches and this guy that does the chest stuff that Yeah, yes, yes, I don't know what his name is They say you cannot be a competitor though. He's a he's a Instagram body. Oh, is that really what he's not a he's not a professional? I don't even know that he's not a perfect. Okay, but he's got a ridiculous body. He's got a great for sure. Yeah, he's not which is which also makes bodybuilding a little more difficult because why be a bodybuilder when you can make money doing that? Yeah, well, I have an idea if we ran

the Stroll Empire, I think the number one guys would make one to three million every year and the purse would be much bigger, but that's if we ran it, but we don't. I do other things, okay? But if that was the case, it'd be a complete different thing and the sport would be a little bit more creative, there'd be more fun, there would be more movies, shows, things like that. But again, we don't, again, that's not our business matter.

We're not doing the StrollMP and Jake Wood is not selling the brand anytime soon. But if he ever does, I think you're qualified guy to also run the StrollMP. Thank you. And what do you guys know about business? Yeah, app. Yeah. So okay, by the Arnold since we're on the Arnold thing and we're just saying a lot of good things about him. Let's stay on it. So Arnold Schwarzenegger says voters were right to retain new some calls. GOP field disastrous LA times. He was a governor in 2003 after

recalls that he received a relief. He was relieved that Gavin Newsom kept his job still. The Republican added that he was hopeful that the special election Was a wake-up call for Newsom that makes him perform better the former minister universe who remains a register Republican despite his disagreement The former Mr. Universe. This is LA time former Mr. Olympia and they say mr. Universe his disagreements with the state's parties path was harshly critical the GOP field and the recall It's just a disastrous party's path was harshly critical to GOP field and the recall is just disastrous. He says the Republican candidates, they did the opposite, Schwarzenegger said, such as talking about eliminating environmental law supported by most Californians. So what is going on with

this Republican governor in California supporting with the way new some handled California? What are your thoughts about what Arnold's saying here? We're seeing it happen right before our eyes. There is no left and right. There is no Republican and Democrat. It's all window dressing now. There are the people, there are the elites who want to control you, the global elites,

and then there are the people who just want to be left alone that the elites refuse to leave alone. I mean, look at the Emmys in California. These people sit there and they lecture you on how bad your life is while their multi-millionaires grinding up on each other in $20,000 dresses, not wearing a single freaking mask. Meanwhile, the kids in LA have got to sit and cubicle and wear masks all day long. Like, come on, it's insane, man.

We're living in two different realities. This let them eat brunch, California, elite is out of control. And you're looking at a guy like Arnold. You know, how come he, look, I actually agree. I think the GOP is running of control. You're looking at a guy like Arnold, you know, how come he, look, I actually agree. I think the GOP is running bad campaigns. The best thing the GOP has done in the last 10 years is just shut up and let people see what the Democratic Party really stands for.

That tells you how badly that party is being run on a national and a state level where the quieter they are, the more people actually listen and you're seeing F. Joe Biden chance all over the place. But that, he also could have come out and said something to the effect of, hey, national media, how come Larry Elder actually got attacked the way Jesse Smolette claims to have gotten attacked and you guys didn't cover it.

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I would go against the recall. But the people that could have probably won it, do they really want the life of being the governor of state of California on the right? I don't know. I don't know if somebody is going to want to do that. They got to adjust their strategy, Pat. They've given up on the cities.

If you give up completely on the cities, you can't win. You cannot win by losing the cities by 90%, 92%, 93%, you just can't do it. You have to fight. Look, that's where the voter fraud is happening. That's where it's happening. Voter fraud happens on both sides, but if you can have people go into a high-rise building and literally walk door to door, ballot harvesting, technically, it happens. You go door to door and you can take literally a thousand, two thousand ballots in each building. You could knock out ten thousand people in a day. In a month, that's three hundred thousand people.

How do you recover from three hundred thousand people? If you just give up on the cities, you gave up on the country. It's done. They have, they've got to get in there and fight. What are your thoughts? I mean, I just know the state of California, what it's like there with the homeless and the mismanagement of money and going bankrupt. And I mean, even me personally have them play there and I pay state tax there as a, you know,

because it's a nexus for us. It's very, you know, I don't understand how they take in so much money yet seem to have no money. And I mean, California is kind of mystifying to me. I love the, I love visiting. I used to love visiting there, because of the weather, obviously, you know, but man, you go there now and it's going back

to bodybuilding, Venice Beach, you go to Gold Gym, there's, there's tents, tents city all over the area, peat needles and people, you know, shitting. Close your not paying your fair share, really. Yeah, it's your fault, it is, right? You guys should feel terrible. Yeah, exactly, you know.

I feel like swimming at your place. Pony up, guys. I mean, you left, you left, so. Yeah, there's no need. Do you miss it at all? No. No, I miss the friends. I miss the restaurants. I miss the community.

I miss my habits. I miss my drive. I miss the theater I would go to. I'm a guy that say, you know, ritual guy. So I like to sit in the same place, same restaurants, same weight or weight risk. You know, there's certain things I like. And that part I absolutely miss. The weather worldwide, probably the best weather in the same place, same restaurant, same weight or weight risk. You know, there's certain things I like. And that part I absolutely miss.

The weather, worldwide, probably the best weather in the world. Minus a couple of other places that could compete with it. But the politics, I'm a freedom guy. And the fact that they don't allow you to breathe and make a decision for yourself, it's just that automatically disqualifies from a guy like me, being able to live in a place like that. The whole purpose of why I work my ass off is because I want to be left alone. That's why I work my ass off. It's because just leave me alone. Let me do my thing.

And I'll create value in whatever community I live in. I'm gonna do my best. I'm gonna do my part. But if you try to control too much, this reminds me of going back to Iran. I have no desire going back to a place of a lot of control. Think about what you just said. And I know it was a joke and it was hyperbole. Like, you know, they won't let you breathe. Like, dude, they are literally telling you how and where it's okay for you to breathe. They're telling you what you can do to breathe.

Like put a mask over, sit down here. If you're standing up, you can do this. If you're sitting down, you can do this. You know, like, why is it okay to take your mask off when you sit down? Well, because obviously COVID is only six foot high. Anybody, anybody five foot two or lower, they don't have to wear a mask five foot three or above. You know, dude, it makes no sense. They're just addicted to the power. And then you see the mayor

of San Francisco, who puts in a mask mandate tells the entire county of San Francisco, the entire city that she's in front of that, that she's in control of what they can and can't do. And then goes out party and we know mask on and Then when they call her on it doesn't even apologize says the spirit of the night took me over the spirit of the night I was feeling the vibe. What is the meaning of spirit in night? Yeah, she's talking. What is she talking about? I don't know, man, dude It's just a blue pill or the purple Tell you what bro anybody listening to this. I'll tell you what next time one of these I want to do. Can we talk about a hustler?

Is that okay if we talk about a hustler? Something everybody can learn from. Can you pull up the story of Manning, what Manning just did? So Peyton Manning, go to the story at the beginning of the year. And then you can see that he's going to be a little bit more more of a guy who's going to be a little bit more of a guy. And then you can see that he's going talk about a hustler? Something everybody can learn from. Can you pull up the story of Manning? What Manning just did? So Payton Manning go to the story at the top. Payton Manning is making cold calls to indie liquor stores to

put his bourbon on shelves. If you can go a little lower to read this, Payton Manning is not too enshrined in a Hall of Fame or too caught up in the overwhelmingly rave reviews of the Monday Night Football mega cast, which they're crushing is incredible. Yeah to admit what his most critical job Has been of late he's been hustler his words not ours and a world of liquor hustling is key manning said or he as he actually said You kind of have to hustle on it or it gets lost in the shuffle what manning has been hustling is a bourbon Brand called sweet and cold Tennessee bourbon for the liquor Connoisseur say the word but Connoisseur Outer 84% corn

8% right 8% more multi-barley So I'm gonna come to the NM's I'm gonna come to the shelves I'm in the co-calling business Manning told them to start yes Manning has been picking up the phones and making the calls The call that must certainly seem like a prank to the person on the other end. You can imagine the pitch, can you imagine, you get a call from this guy. I'm paid manning.

What do I need to do to get my bourbon into your liquor store? What's his closing percentage? You kidding me? No one this guy, he probably has a ratio. He probably got data for everything. I'm shooting, you know, six key percentage. What's the key percentage? It's completion percentage for his career

or his closing percentage. What do you think? He was the subject. I mean, they use the same, oh, I want to say closing. If I need to say no to it. If you believe it's him, right? Cause I would, if it was me, I'd be like, yeah, right, man. You know what I would, I would face time. I'd say, hey, let me just face time.

If then it's, you don't believe me, let me face time. If you face time, you, and then, it's one hundred percent, send it. One hundred percent. Yeah. But, are you surprised, though? See, these are the small, you know, like, I bet you got stories, like, even you talk about earlier, what you were doing when you're sending your stuff,

when you're writing the stories behind every great entrepreneur or great hustler, you have weird stories like this that doesn't make sense. I'll give you a crazy story, okay? I haven't told the story for like eight years, seven years. So it's 2000. Let me see what here it is. It's 2007. I'm about to qualify for a trip to go to Dubrovnik, to go to Venice, to go to Masinovia, to go to Italy, to go to all those places. My assistant at the time, I asked him, did you renew my life insurance license?

He says, I renewed all your license. I said, are you positive? He says, I renewed all your licenses, when I have ever missed it. And you know what, it's got a pretty credible guy. He's been with me for many years. Fine. You renewed it. I renewed it. Fantastic. So I go. One day goes by. Two day goes by. The last week, all the business that goes in, I'm going to Europe. All of a sudden, I get a call from the company saying, yeah, none of this stuff you're submitting right now is going to count for you. Why? Because

your license has been suspended for two weeks. I said, what? He says because you forgot to renew your license. So what do I do? I scream his name. Put him on speaker. Ma'am, can you please tell him what you just told me right now? Yeah, your license has been renewed because it wasn't out.

So his face turns red. He's panic and he's freaking out. I said, what the hell is going on here with my license being renewed? I want to go to Dubrovnik. I want to go to all these places. There's no way this is gonna happen I'm telling guy renewed it show to me our later. He says I have to I didn't renew it I've lost my mind at this point. Okay, oh, I'm losing my mind So it's okay. Let me see what I can do. I call the Department of Insurance California

And by the way the Department of Insurance California Most difficult people to work with so I call I say yes My name is Patrick. Wait a minute. How are you? Max? Speak with the manager, Department of Insurance California, most difficult people to work with. So I call and I say, yes, my name is Patrick Badevin, how are you? I speak with a manager, please. This is her. Great. Hey, my license, I just got word that expired. What do I need to do to renew my license?

They said, sir, it's going to take about four to six weeks to renew it. I said, no, no, you know, some four to six weeks is $50,000 of commission, $60,000 of, I need this thing to be renewed. Sir, everybody calls us for this. This happens all the time. It's okay. Just be patient with us for the six week. We'll renew it. Her name was Gail. I said Gail. I'm on the formula like five six seven. I said Gail. Gail. Let me just put it to you this way. If you don't renew my license, I swear to God, I'm going to be there tomorrow morning. I will dance outside your

office. I will bring flowers. I will bring 200 people singing your name non-stop until you renew my license. I'm gonna show up tomorrow morning at 5 AM. It's just Patrick. Even if you show we cannot renew it. I said, I'm gonna make the biggest scene until you renew my license. Patrick, don't waste your money. Yes, I'm coming. Don't, don't, don't, don't come. Please don't, I said, Gail, I'm coming to California. What happens? I tell my God book the flight. I go to Sacramento. I go find a department in short. You actually? I flew to Sacramento. Now watch what happens. There is no door.

Like there is not a door. It's one of those doors. You know the doors behind like an industrial building. Oh yeah. Like there is not a window to see who's working inside. But I'm there at 5 AM. I tell my hotel guy. Bring me two buckets of coffee. Okay. For me to, from Starbucks. Bring me dozens of donuts. I'm going to stand out there, keep telling you. I'm giving everybody a flyer. two buckets of coffee, okay, from Starbucks. Bring me dozens of donuts. I'm gonna stand out there, keep telling you,

I'm giving everybody a flyer. Can you please give this to Gail? I'm Patrick Coffee to everybody. Everybody's coming in. Hi, how are you? I'm Patrick Beidevi. I need to renew my license. Could you please tell Gail, here's my fly.

I'm giving it to everybody, one by one, they're going in. They're going in, they're going in. And our later she doesn't show up. Two hours later she doesn't show up. One employee comes out Patrick We can't we're not gonna renew your license for four to six weeks Do you realize if we do this everybody else is gonna do what you do? We cannot do this I said you got to renew my license. I said if you don't I have a mariachi folk show up right now

I have dancer show up right now. She says you can't do this kind of stuff This is too much. I said I'm gonna do all this stuff anyways long story short Gail comes out. Okay? said, I'm going to do all this stuff. Anyways, long story short, Gail comes out. OK? Gail comes as a spetric. What do I need to do to get rid of you? Everybody's talking about you right now.

It's a Gail. Just renew my license. Says, if I renew your license, will you leave town? I said, I'm not leaving until on your website, it says Patrick, but they was licensed, renewed, to the date. OK? She says, let me see what I can do.

She goes inside. I'm more calls me. My chief compliance office. She's a spatter. Your license has been, you know, you've been terminated. They're calling me from, what are we going to do? You can't go to Europe. I said, do, let me just tell you, I'm in California right now in Sacramento. I don't see what I can do. Gail comes out. She says, here, your license is renewed. I said, Gail, give me the biggest hug. Gail, I got a 2000 rose. She says, get the hell out of here. And said, don't ever tell anybody. So I'm not telling anybody.

I'm just telling two people right now. Look, a handful of us right now. So anyways, tomorrow morning is a month. I'm more better than a month. I'm more than a month. I'm more than a month. I'm almost saying your license was fricking renewed. They made a mistake.

I said, nobody made the mistake. I'm in Sacramento. Anyways, so those are the stories that many times people don't. I went to Europe cause your 10 grand to get your license or my favorite trip of all time up onto that point was the brovining till today my favorite place in the world if I didn't renal my life. Sweet. I'm not going to the brovining sweet.

That's that's the story sometimes behind closed doors. You don't hear about so manning massive massive shout out to a hustler like manning. It's the competitive spirit and it's what you talked about it with you before you had that addictive personality But you channeled it into the right way now a buddy of mine. I talk I talked to you about Prince Lorenzo Bergesi This this guy was on the bachelor. He's been on bachelor paradise. I've been on a weekend name, bro Yeah, first of all name like they go up to a girl. What's your name Mary? What's your name? Prince Lorenzo Borges. Lorenzo Borges.

Yeah. Like it's a done deal. He was in, what was that? Celebrity big brother with the, you got into the fight. The situation. He's a good friend of my buddy Rocco. They were Rocco was on Lucky Bastards, on Esquire with them. They know each other.

Anyway, the point is this guy's got notoriety fame money. He sells South Beach brewery. And now he's driving around the truck himself, delivering the stuff himself, going and making the sales calls himself because he's like, hey, I put my thing into this. I'm not gonna call people, I'm not gonna tell people. I'm not, he doesn't wanna be like Cabo Wabo, this is so and so.

He shake my hand, this is mine, like it's actually mine, I'm doing it. And it's really, really important to him. I mean, he likes that, he likes the hunt, he likes being out there in it. That's what makes the story sexy. That's what makes the story sexy. That's what makes the story exciting. You have to have that story of a hustle whenever you're doing something big.

I just want to know where he gets the time to do it. How was the pain in that? Dude, at that point, the bigger you get, the more support you got. You have no idea. You have so much support. The biggest thing people misunderstand about business is there's a 10-year period of you not having a life. There's 10 years, and that's the 10 years people don't want to give up, but you have no life. When I tell you no life, I mean, you have no life.

It's an 80-hour week of no life. Then after that 10-year, the amount of support and help you have, your life is given back to you, and you gain back years for that 10 years of sacrifice you made. That's the exchange people don't want to make. That's exactly what happened. I mean, I really don't do anything I don't want to do anymore. But you earned it though. I earned it right. Yeah, it's really literally something in my life that I really don't want to do. Then I have somebody to support person that's able

to do it for me. Like it worked over there. You know, so for a sense, if you don't want to support Arnold Classic, you just don't support it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. But giving that the work gives you the ability to have freedoms. You know, that's what I think of when people talk about like making it, you know, making being financially free to me, it's just being able to do or not do the things you want to do in any time, you know. There you go. So, so now let's talk about what Facebook did.

Folks, I'm going to talk about Facebook's VIP list and I want you to ask yourself if you're maybe on this VIP list. Let's go through it. This is a CNBC story. This is a CNBC story. Facebook shields millions of VIP users from standard moderation protocols. Facebook is using this program that the whitelist millions of VIP users from the company standard content moderation practices according to all street journal.

Every day, Facebook users can have their content taken down immediately. If the company's artificial intelligence technologies or contracted content moderators find their post to be violation of the company's rules. Users in the ex-check program, however, may have their content stay alive on Facebook services before being routed into a separate moderation system, that process is also staffed by better trained content moderators who are full-time employees according to the report. Wall Street Journal said that there were 5.8 million VIP Facebook users in 2020.

Pretty interesting to think. It's not a small number by the way. Five point eight million VIP users in 2020. I wonder how many of them are businesses, because so like for RedCon1, we are whitelisted to post ads. So we can post an ad with limited moderation. Instead of being an algorithm,

it's a person that checks it off. Yeah. So we have a level of, so I don't know if that's, if it's companies or just individuals, but for companies, if you do enough business with Facebook, and you never broke any rules, then they give you a little bit of more leeway. I'm going to say, for us, if we have a thousand ads that you're launching all at once, and

it's time sensitive, and it doesn't get approved in time, it can cause problems, we can not spend more money on Facebook. That's really what they're concerned with. Does that bother you? Yeah. Tell me why that bothers you. Well, first of all, it's just more of what I was talking about earlier. It's the aristocracy versus the Pleibeans.

It's just, it's rules for thee, but not for me. My servant has to wear a mask. But you know, I would wanna know. I actually would wanna know what that criteria is. For example, if a, today use a trend, like this account, I mean, I can be specific. I can be absolutely specific. I told you, and you know this,

for the people that don't know out there, I had a pretty active Facebook account. I was getting millions of views. I could count on between three and five grand every month off my Facebook account. And then I made a post correlating the pandemic to the Wuhan lab. And the next morning I woke up,

my page was demonetized, restricted, and I couldn't post for 30 days. My monetization is still not back to this day. You got to have a lot of... Meanwhile, John Stewart goes on coal bear, four months later, says the exact same thing I said, and he gets applauded. Oh, look at the intelligence of John Stewart, the bravery. I'm sitting here, I go live on Facebook, I'm like, are you serious? Can I get a fact check on this?

Look, Donald Trump, the president is not allowed, but the telebond leaders are allowed. Yeah, they're okay. Exactly. Among them is Socrates star Neymar, 5.8 million. In 2019, he posted nude photos of a woman who had accused him of rape to his Facebook account, according to the report, this type of content would have typically been removed, but X-Check protected NMR's account and blocked Facebook's moderators from taking it down right away, ultimately 56 million Facebook and Instagram users saw NMR's content according to the report. Wow.

Okay, so this is, that's pretty crazy to think about. I'm just curious, you know, if there is a way to get access to that 5.8 million VIP, because if they can come up with a number with 5.8 million, that means there's a way to find out who is on that VIP list and is there a reason on it? And they know he's on it and they know there's an X check system so somebody knows something about it.

So it's probably, that's embarrassing for Facebook. It is embarrassing for that to come out, but. There's nothing that can be embarrassed. There's nothing that can be embarrassed for Facebook. They get caught for that to come out. But there's nothing that can embarrass them. There's nothing that can embarrass Facebook. They get caught reading your messages. They don't care. They get caught silencing opposition. They don't care.

Their fact checking is an absolute joke. It's a lot of joke. By the way, FYI, as much as we trash Facebook, liberals cannot stand Facebook, just so you know, they cannot stand Facebook. They cannot stand Zuckerberg. Like he's one of the most hated guys on their side because in their eyes, just so you know, they cannot stand Facebook. They cannot stand Zuckerberg. Like he's one of the most hated guys on their side because in their eyes, just so you know,

they think Trump won with the help of Facebook. So there is, in 2016, he won because of Facebook. So what the social dilemma or what was the documentary that they made about the social dilemma with the micro metadata and all that stuff. You can't really handle it. Yeah, I can't really handle it. I never used a girl from that.

Yeah. The one that wrote the book. Yeah. I never read that. Yeah. Everybody in the world is at fault for Donald Trump winning except Hillary Clinton being the worst, least likable candidate all the time. It's amazing the depth that they'll go to blame.

You have two choices for president, Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden. Yeah. Democrats in the even two Hillary Clinton, you have a choice between Hillary. I hear you, but Democrats didn't even to she she rigged her own primary guy. You know, you know why? Because I think at least the the enemy would fear her a little bit. Yeah, because there's a part of her that she, you know, she's a track record of, you know, people disappearing. So there's a there's an element uh... please carry the real as you're asking like the there is to gallery and like a right to get right there

actually rather no i actually think it's the difference between somebody not being feared and somebody being feared there's a big difference yesterday i had uh... i had a guy on david what was the name of the guest we had on yesterday we we ended up doing it right on time uh... the interview do you know what i'm talking about? I know exactly who we're talking about. I don't want to mispronounce his name, but it is Adag Yita.

Somebody get kayed back here. I'm actually doing it. Adag, say it again. Adag Yita Raj Kuhl? Raoaj, I think you're actually saying it right. You know what, I'm impressed. Okay, thanks. I was not expecting you to get this right.

You're looking right out of here, huh? Yeah, so Adag Yita Raj Kuhl, who is the guy that's been talking, speaking on what's going on with Afghanistan the entire time, and we had a conversation about what's going on. He's over there, he's spent the most time talking about what's going on there. He represents CNN, news of India,

and we talked a lot about Afghanistan. And one of the comparisons I made, he said, this is Trump's fault, this is Biden's fault, this is both of their fault, this is Bush's fault, Obama's fault, anybody that's been a president in the last 20 years. Fair. You know, which is fair, absolutely, which is fair. And then I made the comparison and this is listen, I'm a guy that voted for Biden. I thought Biden would have been the right person to handle this situation with Afghanistan. And then I said, do you see the comparison between what he did and what Carter did when it comes onto presidency. You cannot have a guy like that be a number one.

Biden may be a good number two or three or four or five or six, but not a good number one. And then he turns around and says, look, at this point of the game, I have to agree with you. You're right. I've changed my position. I don't think he's the right guy for the job. And I asked him, who would have been a better Hillary or him? He said Hillary.

He said the same thing as well. Well, hey, even our Lord and Saviorver baraka obama once said uh... the never underestimate by the ability to have to have so i don't know if he was a great number two either but did you see the story about what happened with saki yesterday when she was asked if uh... biden has ever been to the board can you pull up that story

uh... david the story on uh... i think the first one you got there uh... second one second one right there by administration check this out. So if you haven't seen the video, I suggest you watch it. We can't play it right now for obvious reasons. White House has no answers on when Biden has ever, not in the last 12 months, not in the last 10 years, ever in his lifetime, visited the border or how many migrants have been released into the US.

So go to the bottom to exchange to read the exchange. So Fox News correspondent Peter Ducey pressed White House Press Secretary as pressed White House Press Secretary Jen Sackie on whether Biden has ever been to the southern border saying, I've been looking on morning and we cannot find any records of him at visiting the border as president, vice president, senator, or even as a concerned citizen. Why would that be? Okay? So this is not about as a president or VP. Period ever. Go a little lower. She pushes a little bit more, Saki could not provide a date and says she would check.

Do you see, push further noting that the president has made a point in the past to travel around the country when areas are affected by wildfires, hurricanes, to see the needs of the local community. And then she says, well, first of all, Peter, I think the situation at the border is the result of a broken system. And the president certainly relies on his experience. So whether it was the work he did to address the root causes as vice president, his efforts when he was a Senate, to support comprehensive immigration reforms that at a time was or done being done and work towards a bipartisan way,

something that certainly we think should be the case today. He uses all his experience from the past, anyways, the whole point is she could not say that he's ever been to the Southern border. So this is my question for you, this is my question for you. Does that matter? And if yes, why does that matter? Yeah, he needs to see what's going on on the border. He needs to have an experience that so he can base his leadership and his decisions on something he's seeing for himself. And it's also for the

people there and to be a leader, you need to, you know, I always tell my kids, lead from the front. You know, this is a guy I've never been into the place. The down, you know, a three-hour flight for him. Yeah, the, listen, I don't know if anything outside of optics would occur from a present being down there, but it does make it seem like, okay, at least he's prioritizing this. You know, the rhetoric that we get from the White House out of this stuff, I mean,

it's amazing how, you know, law-abiding Americans, they got no problem yelling at us and telling us, our patients is wearing thin, you know, with people that just wanna be left alone. Meanwhile, you got people, you know, story, you have it, actual humanitarian crisis at your border that you guys have created. Just because let's be honest, you need the votes. You're trying to shove as many blue votes into red states as you possibly can. If there were a bunch of Canadians trying to escape Trudeau's socialist, paradise up north, coming through the northern border, and turning Michigan red, watch how fast there'd be

an ice wall up on our northern border, right? But listen, and also to that point, if I'm correct, I think as many as 25% of all votes in the recount were from people born outside of the United States of America in California. So the strategy's working, all right? And even Beto Aurorex says he's gonna run for governor. So they've counted enough people coming across the border where Beto thinks the third time's a charm. I mean, he's gonna run for governor so he they've counted enough people coming across the border with the toe

thanks to third time's charm who knows he's gonna get in there but how many cartel people are coming across don't care i mean you see the afghan some afghan refugees raping people kids here they care about power and power i verified the story with the gentleman yesterday and i said is child marriage taking place right now i says absolutely yeah it's hard he said mothers are being threatened for their lives because they have no food, they have nothing.

They're exchanging their 10 year old daughters to other Taliban men in exchange for food and freedom. We did that. That is, that is our task. That would be so unbelievably mind boggling to even think about a person being put in a situation like that to make that decision. Our tax dollars financed that situation. $300 dollars a day for two years.

Finance that situation? It was happening before we went in there. We just spent a bunch of money and wasted it to do nothing. It wasn't like the Taliban was nice before. Since I've been on this podcast, man, you know, a lot of people DM me and some of it's awesome. And I love the guys at DM me. A lot of it's not so awesome. But what I have things I've noticed about the more liberal among us,

or more left among us, they disagree with me very, very publicly in the comments. But if they agree with me, it's very, very quietly in the DMs, right? But one of the things they always talk about is, look, like taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society. Taxes, we need to do this. The rich just got to pay a little bit more. And everybody, and my whole thing comes back to guys

We we don't have a revenue problem in this country There's four trillion just in federal income tax that doesn't take into account state income tax That doesn't take into account any of the soft taxes that you campaign doesn't take into account tickets It doesn't take into account tolls. We do not have a revenue problems country four trillion dollars We're still running 128% deficit against GDP. You think they're gonna run the country better on seven trillion than they did on four?

No way, man. So one of the things that they have to do now, if you're listening to this, and if you're on the left side of the aisle and we're missing soy man today, but you need to now prove to the rest of us that if you get more money, because the government's asking to double its budget right now.

And they're asking not just for the money that we're making right now, they're going after future earnings, alright? And they're going after our past with inflation. They're going after our future with investment income and they're going after our past. They're going to take it all. You have to show us that this money buys something other than death and destruction. This is what it buys. You need to show us that it doesn't, that the money is going to something other than lobby firms. Man, you have to show

us that it's going to something other than defense contractors. $21 trillion. $2 trillion. No, no, I'm saying, in Afghanistan, was a $21 trillion? $2 trillion. $2 trillion. $2 trillion. $300 million a day for, it's $2 to $3 trillion. $2 to $3 trillion. And I think that might have been one of this. Out of $3 trillion, I don't want to give this static correctly. Somebody got to look it up. And I think it was out of $3 trillion, $2.8 trillion went to defense contractors.

Yeah, I don't know that figure right there to verify but going back to the question about Biden never been to the southern border when Leicester holds her push Kamala in June about the fact that you've never been to the border and she says what's the big deal I've never been to Italy. I've never been to Europe. What does that have to do with anything? That was her. After her laugh after her laugh.

After her laugh. So the question then becomes uh... you know in a in a situation like this do you think obama would have been at the border right now if he was president do you think obama would have visited he understands optics better than i actually think obama would have visited you think bill you think bill clinton would have visited you think he'll read what visited yeah

we know trump would have visited you think bush would have visited we know what bush it would nine eleven he went right there yeah this isn't by the way this is not a Republican or Democratic think why the hell are you not visiting this is not a Republican or Democratic thing you just made an actually really great point about Kamala Harris like that is also another reason against this kind of global government globalization like out of sight out of mind if this wasn't a federal problem if it wasn't the federal border, the Texans would take care of the border. The Texans that live at that area would handle the border fine. Locally, they would take care of it. The fact that it's a federalization,

somebody that works in DC and grew up and lives in San Francisco doesn't give a damn about the border. She did, she just like what you said, I've never been to Italy either, it's abstract to her. So now we go global guys, do you think somebody in Beijing or somebody, some bureaucrat in Germany is gonna give a damn about the southern border? You think they're gonna care about, you know, Maricopa County in Arizona, man. They're not gonna care.

The bigger government gets, the more global it gets, the worse things will get in a micro sense. It could be, it could be that Biden doesn't have the energy for a trip like that. Or it could be that he's not actually making any of the issues. I don't know about that. Let me tell you why I don't know about that because he went to Delaware for vacation just a couple weeks ago. So I think the travel part he could do. I'm actually trying to really see why not because does it force the media on the left to talk about what

they're not doing right? Let me let me give you an idea where I'm going with this I watch the Jake Tapper interview the other day with Blinken. Have you seen that interview or no? It's a 14-minute clip. I seen clips. Okay. If you haven't seen it highly recommend you go watch it Jake Tapper like Unrogan, I said I think Jake Tapper is one of the most necessary people also in America today because Jake is a guy that'll still push. Jake will ask the question. I think Jake is actually relatively, you know, if everybody's, if Don Lemon is far left

and you got Chris Cuomo here and all these guys, Senor, I think Jake is here, which I appreciate Jake doing his job and pushing back. He pushed Blinken on a lot of issues. He says, look, you still not answer my question for you. What happened there? Why did you guys make the decision that we guys made? The question I'm asking you is,

even the left is right now getting sick of their candidate that won. The left is sick of it. This is not about a left or right thing right now. The left is sick of it. So to go to the thought of saying, well, maybe they're not going because Zucker had a call on the background, not Zuckerberg.

I'm talking to Jeff Zucker had a call in the background not zuckerberg i'm talking about jessucker had a call in cnn saying hey let's get everybody on the same page and they do a conference call saying do not go to the southern border because it's a bad look because you're going to get so much hate i don't think that's the case so why have they not gone there i know kamala went to opasto i understand that the whole guadamala el pass all of that stuff. Why has he not gone there? Well, you know, it's the same thing. It's a very interesting question.

I don't know. I tend to think you might be right. Maybe, you know, he doesn't have to go pass you to it. I know they know. Maybe they know you. I also don't think he's a decision maker, guys. I really don't think he is. He is going to get, you mentioned.

He's going to get definitely walking there. He's going to get a lot of fuck Joe Biden's. He's going to get people screaming. But going back to your point though, the left media there's two things that you said are very very interesting and we're tracking one hunter Biden's emails were confirmed yeah they were confirmed and that hasn't covered was a blip hasn't covered at all the hunter Biden emos that he was selling access and that by and that Joe Biden was signing off on it was confirmed

it should be a bigger conspiracy than almost anything in our lifetime and no one's even talking about it. That's number one. What are they are talking about? You saw this week what happened with the Hunter Biden laptop. Yeah. Have you seen the progress they're making with it?

Yeah, but it wasn't like front page, and it wasn't like all over again. Not yet, but they're about to. Yeah, they're about to. They're not gonna have a choice. And number two on that is, you mentioned Don Lemon. Very, very, very interesting in the pass-off from Lemon Show to uh...

you know that there's a thing now uh... with the far left progressive the racial progressive specifically while you're saying hold that thought folks if you're listening to this i'm actually curious why do you think they haven't visited biden hasn't visited to southern board i'm looking at some of people's comments go ahead you were saying yet so the girl who who went missing and uh... you know it's highly suspected that our boyfriend had something to do with it um you know there's there's a racial component to it apparently that that um the the social justice left hates the amount of attention that this

story is getting and they're saying if there was a black woman essentially they're saying this would have never happened and i guess the police questioned the boyfriend and he is not saying anything and don lemon said that that's white privilege. They would press a black kid until they said something. Chris Cuomo, my mind almost exploded. Chris Cuomo says absolutely not, that you're right not to speak. And then he actually pushed back against it and I was like, whoa, did Chris Cuomo just disagree with Don Lemon? Chris Cuomo said it doesn't matter if you're white or black, they'll do it.

He says yes, but poor. And then Don corrected himself. Don Lennon. Chris Cormos, it doesn't matter if you're white or black, they'll do it. He says, yes, but poor. And then Don corrected himself. Don Lennon vividly. When from black, he said poor. Poor white and black people. He says, you think if I wasn't Don Lennon, if I was a, he says, but poor. So he changes position. There he is.

Chris pushing back. I think you shared that with me. Yeah, very interesting. I was like, if the left is starting to push back against the left, that is good progress. Because we got it, like you said, you said, the center is where it is, right? We talk about the, I'm a prescriber of the horseshoe theory. We talk about it a little bit. Like we think about left and right in this country.

Like the furthest thing away from a Nazi is to be a communist. So therefore, a commie's good. That's the whole antifa thing. It's not a linear political spectrum. It's a horseshoe, right? So the Nazis and the commies, the far right and the far left are way closer to each other than they are to anything in the center, right? So I mean and the commies, the far right and the far left are way closer

to each other than they are to anything in the center, right? So I mean, that's kind of the idea. I wish that that was taught better in school. I wish that people had a better understanding of that. But you know, if the center left can start taking control of their room, if the center left can start having a louder voice, the country is headed in the right direction. Yeah, it says because they're cowards, all the stuff they're saying because Biden is, because he knows it's going to be all over the nose. I actually don't think that's the case.

I'd like to know what the reason is. I don't think the left or the right knows what the reason is, why they're not going there. I don't know. Maybe it's something bigger than we even know. But even yesterday, when they turned on the hazeans, you know, that they're coming here. And then you saw a Maxine Waters came out and said, you know, Haitian lives are black lives. If Haitian lives matter, black lives matter,

Haitian lives matter. And then they're coming here because their country is not good and they're leaving to become to America. We have to take care of them. They're not coming here to stay. And then statistics came back and say, wait a minute, these guys have been living down there for years.

This is not like they. Anti-Mandai, massive anti-Mandai. Maxine. Anti-Mandai protests in New York City, led by Black Lives Matter. I mean, it's turning upside down. It's confusing. It's confusing.

But again, it's a good thing, men, people don't like not being free. I mean, the weird thing is you shared with me the Nicki Minaj thing, and she's saying 80% of people agree with her, but they're afraid. Who are they afraid of? Who is getting to them? Who are they afraid of? Like, you're, you know, I'm an liberal media canceling on them. But, but, but he's saying the media is afraid to cover. So if the media is afraid and the entertainer's afraid, who was, who are they afraid of?

And why? Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. That's a complete different topic. So if Nicki Minaj is community, but let's, let's, let's unpack it. let's let's let's let's hash this out and debate it. So who's when she's saying 80% people agree with me, agree with me, but they don't want to go public about it. Yeah. So maybe she's talking about other celebrities like herself. That's the way I took it. Yeah. Fine, I took it that way as well. So let's just say it's she's talking about other celebrities like herself. Why would they publicly go out there and support Nicki? No, but they're they're in that live. she's saying that they agree with what she's saying, but they're

being bullied into saying other things. No, no, I get that. Yeah. I'm fully there. What I'm saying to you is why if they agree with Nikki, are they not comfortable coming out publicly supporting her position? Because they're worried about repercussions. They're worried about repercussions.

So what are the repercussions? Losing jobs, putting in gigs. So losing jobs, losing gigs. What else? I mean, like the actors that I know in Hollywood that are conservative don't express it because they feel like they'll be ostracized from that community and they won't get to know what happened with Vince Vaughn. I mean, Vince Vaughn won the best actors just because he supported Ron Paul out of campaign and he's a, you know, came out as a libertarian. We saw what happened to him. The only person they can't do nothing to is one guy

that they cannot touch. Seems like Chris Pratt, they tried to cancel him and they couldn't. They cannot touch Clint Eastwood because he simply doesn't give a shit and he's got a half a billion dollars. Say whatever the hell you want to say, I make my own movies, I fund my own movies, I don't need your money.

So the more they're free of the powers of Hollywood, the more it's in a way. John Boy is a good friend. But John Boy is a fantastic, I had been with him. He's won the bigger reasons why I do what I do, and George Will, a fantastic guy. But even like guys like him, but Clint is in A. John's probably, John's, you know,

so, but you know, what do they lose? Okay, so when Joe and I were talking I asked him the question that asked everybody. Here's a question, who's the most powerful source today in America today? The US president, the richest man in America, the educational system, virtual governments, which is Facebook, Twitter, YouTube,

or mainstream media. Let me say that one more time, folks, I wanna get your answer on this as well. This is a part of the conversation with Joe and I. The US president who's the most powerful person in America? The US president, okay, actually grade this, rank it. Take a moment. I'm curious to know what you're gonna say about a rankum, Gerard. If you already have them. The US president, okay, rankum folks if you're listening to this. I'm so curious. Who's the most powerful folks if you're listening to this, I'm so curious. Who's the most powerful person or organization in America today? The US president, the richest man in America, so like a baseless or real amaz, then you got the educational system that's influencing kids' minds. I'm just talking

about universities, Berkeley. I'm talking about University of Chicago. I'm talking about Stanford. And then you have virtual governments, which is Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, all those guys, or mainstream media, CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, all those guys. In order of five, one by one, who do you think is the most powerful? In order of five. And I'll tell you what Joe said. But in order of five, is it the president?

Is it the richest man, which is Bezos O'Reilly on Musk? Is it the education? We're talking about it acutely. Not like this is like something right now. I'm talking right now, who is the most powerful person. The reason I'm saying that is because the educational system, maybe forming young minds, but today it won't make a difference for today. I'm considering it as like the education lobby, like the education. That's what I'm saying that is because the educational system maybe forming forming on minds, but today it won't make a difference for today. I'm considering it as like the education lobby, like the education.

That's what I'm saying. I'm putting that one at the bottom. You're putting education at the bottom. At the bottom? Because in the future it's huge, but today it's fair enough. Actually, great question you're asking. I actually like to question you're asking, okay, fair. Long term, they would probably at the second or maybe even first place.

Sure. So do you have your five? Yeah, I got six. Okay go. Yeah. What's your six? All right six president of the United States. So you have so presidents at the bottom. Six. Okay here we go. Five education lobby. Yep. Four big media. You mean MSM? Yeah. Mainstream media. Okay. Three big tech. Yep. Two, richest guys. One, jeezing pink. Stop. You really like that guy.

So you putting the richest guy has the most power in America today? I do. Okay. I don't know about that. Let's see. The richest guy can buy two, three, and four. You think so? Yes.

Okay. Alright, so we'll have some fun with this one. And the president Can't do anything without the votes. You haven't been on first before who you think you're first is You got your opinion. Let's hear air is that I'm gonna come to you guys to your what's your first is so I'm to say Facebook number one Facebook, you know all digital media you see virtual government. Yep. Yep. Number one United States president number two And then number three is media, mainstream media. Number four is richest man in America, rich man in the world, yes.

And number five is educational systems, colleges, birds, so interesting. But what's your number one? Yeah, I agree with that. My number one social media, it's got to be. You put number one. You're also saying? Mine was also social media. Okay. Do you have an opinion on that? What do you think's number one? Same social media? Who? Education wow interesting cuz he's thinking also okay, Rogan said social media is number one, okay

So but for you you for you you said the richest man has got the most power today tell us why well the golden rule You know what the golden rule is? What's that? Treat everybody how you want to be treated? Yeah, that's what they tell you it is. The golden rule, Aaron, is he who has the gold mixed rules. Not for that one too. So listen, big tech is great. But the richest man can buy big tech. He doesn't like you, Jeff Bezos doesn't like what the Washington Post is posting. You know what he does? You buy the Washington post. So the president of the United States is not a very powerful person

because he needs all those other people for his power. Those other people do not need the president for their power. We talked about this couple podcast back. It dawned on me. I thought I would grew up in New York, the media capital of the world, L.A., Hollywood. We think of where are the power centers in the world? Where are the power centers? Right? And this goes to your argument. This goes to Joe Rogan about about big tech, right?

We would think the power centers are New York, right? LA DC. We're all wrong. The power centers in America right now are San Francisco because of his proximity to Silicon Valley and what what scares me and why you know, Pat's joking about my proclivity to bring Xi Jinping and the things. Big tech and mainstream media are not beholden to the president of the United States. They are beholden to China.

They change their rules for China. They change their distribution for China. They don't do that for us. So if the most powerful, if the epicenter of power in the United States is San Francisco and they aren't beholden to us, they're beholden to Beijing. Why do you have virtual government first and why do you have president second? So I have virtual government first because I think it influences a tremendous amount of opinion

and I think that if they wanted to use it incorrectly or use it for, you know, whatever means, they have the ability to. And then it can be, you know, weaponized very easily. I mean, as you said, everybody says Trump won the election because of Facebook, right? So it could influence elections. It could change, you know, based on the power, we're talking about power being used, good for good or bad. But it can be used for bad for all kinds of shows.

You can panic people. I mean, you can overemphasize, or you can use the algorithm to show more bad news than good news or more for Facebook They admit that you further use it their own algorithm to show more good news about them to toss. Yeah So it's it's very manipulative the ability to manipulate is unlimited and there's so much data user data out there for people now That there's predictive user data. I'm a big fan of a volunteer. I don't have to stock for Palantir And I know guys on the battlefield and seal team 6 that have used it to get targets right now, like weeks ago, where they tell the target,

this is the guy and they can use cameras local cameras, use their predictive algorithm and see what, and historically where the person's been, and they can say 87% chance this guy who squirt, a squirt ran out is at his girlfriend's house, here it is. And they hit the girlfriend's house. Well, that's actually one of these. One of the issues with TikTok to that level is that they their predictive analytics are supposed to be so insane That if you watch TikTok, you're going and where you know within within three hours of watching TikTok

They can curate an algorithm specific to you that is like they'll know exactly what you're gonna watch How about you? That's kind of palantantir, some of their stuff can basically take, aggregate and then analyze what you're doing on social media. And so if somebody like Pat mentioned, I'm very a routine guy, I'm big routines. You could very easily figure out anything about me because if you have access to my social media

because I post places, they go, he's here at this day, this day, Palantir and software like it can do that instantly. So I put that at number one because I know the scope of what's possible. The United States president carries the nuclear football. He can press the button and he has a lot of,

I mean, we haven't seen a lot of the crazy stuff really being done that much, but Trump talked about a little bit about what kind of powers he has. And there's constitutional lawyers that have espoused, talked about what could be done as a president. That could be done. You can make a lot of really bad mistakes. Of course, there's oversight, right? You know, the house and the senate and everything and never all of his advisors. But if you're a madman and you want us to do whatever you want, you could do some serious damage, you know. Even without Benedict Milly calling China to ask if it was okay first, you sure?

I'm pretty sure he could do some stuff. My opinion, he could do some damage. I put media number three because we've seen what mainstream media can do. No, that's right, no question. People just, it's amazing that people don't think. You know, they just see it and they feel like, I mean, my mom's a great example, my mom will watch a show and she just immediately thinks it's fact. She'll call me and say, hey, this is what's happening is what I'm like, no, that's just one show you watch CNN, one article, one thing.

It doesn't mean it's the truth. You have to do your research. But I mean, that's, it convinces people. Riches many have forth. Why Riches man forth? Because like you mentioned, you could buy, but you really can't. So you can't go buy Facebook.

Jeff Bezos does have the ability to buy out Facebook. Mark Zuckerberg is not gonna sell him Facebook. Because Mark Zuckerberg is one of the richest people. Yeah, you can't appeal to him like that. So I mean, most of these guys, most of the richest stuff, you can do a lot, right? You can get away with a lot, you can do a lot, but you still don't have the power to, like the president can do anything he wants. You know, he can't, he can pardon himself, you know.

So, Biden can't, Biden can't, richest man Jeff Bezos has a limit to his power because yeah, he can buy anything he wants to a point. But he's still, you know, under the law, right? He has laws and he needs to follow he wants to a point. But he's still under the law, right? He has laws and he needs to follow that are rules for everybody. Well, I think he may be able to get away with a lot of stuff. He's still like Jeffery Epstein. He can't get away with everything, not forever.

So I put him that for, and then the educational system, just because like I said, it's something that we're talking about in the distance. In the distant future, it's very scary for guys who have little boys and sending them to college. I would, I didn't go to college, but I do believe in education, I'm a big believer in education.

But it is scary because you teach your kids all this stuff and hopefully you instill all these values and then you send them off to Berkeley and they ruin everything, right? They teach them something totally different and they are they're gonna be the teachers, they're gonna be the authority figures and they come back for summer

and they tell you're wrong about everything. So that's a scary thing. Where do you send a kid for higher education? There's no risk of them coming back at different kid. By the way, a lot of people said different things. One guy in LK 50 bucks and he said number one central bankers, number two big banks, number three CCP, number four corporate elites, number five US president. That guy gets it. so so he you know there's a there's a good idea though those are options that's right there's one of the options you didn't follow rules he created his own rules there but your belongs to the disobedient there you go but the between is you know when you're

talking about uh... uh... the topic we were on right before this uh... what we talk about come out of here so we're talking about niki minaj niki minaj and why is the levities are afraid of the media is afraid also but the reason why celebrities are afraid is because the most powerful organization in america is the social media these virtual governments they can ruin their life sure like this they can run their life so here's a rock you know his energy drink by the way just became number one. It's really good

I like it. So it's a head of everybody now. It's number one. Okay now imagine if he doesn't have access to Twitter Instagram and all the stuff that he's doing you think his energy drinks gonna be number one. Look it. Look at Donald Trump I mean Donald Trump was the most watched there's every news story about him because people were commenting on his tweets whether they're ridiculous Or whatever and so you take it away and all of a sudden his voice is, I mean, he's made it almost as if he's nonexistent today. The only place that he exists is that small little functions that he does and maybe Fox shows him, but you don't see him out a lot of different places.

Many people who have interviewed Trump in the last 12 months, their interview has been taken down, not last 12 months, last six, seven months. Their interview has been taken down when they sit down with them. So anyways, so going back to Nicki Minaj, yes, celebrities, last six seven months their interviews been taken down uh... when they sit down with them so anyways uh... you so going back to niki manash yes celebrities you only to come out and talk about how i feel about this is it worth my twenty million out of contract

is it worth my next fifty million bucks probably so you're answering my question and so the the question is is that who is really pulling the strings who is threatening them to make them afraid and it's so then that you're also answering your own poll then that the mainstream media is beholden to Big Tech as well. Because you're asking, why aren't they covering this? How come they're not doing that?

Somebody in Big Tech is saying, we don't want this information out there. So you're telling me that it's some sort of, is it dorsi, is it, is it, or is my conspiracy theory that Big you know, big tech is beholden to a foreign interest? Well, I mean, think about this story. Here's the story.

Since we're going there, let's go to this story. It kind of has to do what we're talking about. Page two. Google and Apple remove Navalny's app from stores as Russian election begin. This is a Reuter story, okay? So Google and Apple remove Navalny's app, which Navalny is going against Putin. Yeah.

Google and Apple have removed the jailed, Kremlin critic, Alexi Navalny's technical voting app from their stores after Russia accused the US tech firms of meddling in its internal affairs. Russia wanted to pose on Friday to elect a new parliament and a three way vote that the ruling United Russia party is expected to win despite a rating slump, after the biggest crackdown on the Kremlin's critics and years,

allies of Navalny, President Vladimir Putin's fiercest, domestic opponent, plan to use the mobile app to organize a tactical voting campaign to deal a blow to United Russia. Russia demanded this month that Apple and Google remove the app from their store saying a refusal to do so would be treated as Metaling in its parliamentary election. So where you're going with this where you're going with this is the point So this is where some people would agree with you to say well, you know, it's got to be China

It's got to be somebody else. It's got to be Russia. Look at this here, we're Russia's power to tell Google and Apple to take that and how powerful is Google on Apple? One is a two trillion auto company, the other one is what, a trillion auto company. Hey, take those things then, they say, yes, we will take you down. So think about that, think about that, that word chart, think about the orchard right there.

Nicki Minaj and celebrities won't speak because then the mainstream media go after them, the mainstream media won't cover stories because then social media go after and the mainstream media won't cover stories because then social media go after them. Social media will do whatever Vladimir Putin. I'm sorry. I disagree. Let me tell you why.

The power is still on who? The power is still on the hands of Facebook, Google, Facebook, Apple, YouTube, all these guys. They dictate the power. So they dictate the power. If they choose to keep or not keep, you're off. But it's still the power isn't there. There's almost goes back to your point though.

You can be as powerful as Zuckerberg is, but in here in America where we're a representative democracy, he knows Joe Biden is not going to do anything to him. He has the power over Joe Biden. And he has the power over electric. He's like, hey, I'm going to run against him. Of course he does. Vladimir Putin is not going anywhere.

So Vladimir Putin can go, yeah, Zuckerberg, how about you have some, you know, some of this radiation salad? Try screw on me. Try screw on me, Zuckerberg. And Facebook stock continues to soar. Yeah. Hey, hey, Zuckerberg, don't, don't forget. Xi Jinping looks at Zuckerberg and don't forget.

Say, hey, remember Jack Ma, he went on a little vacation, didn't he? How you like vacation? So watch this, watch watch what game now we're playing. So we just went from Nicki Minaj, why celebrities are worried we give the list of five. You guys gave you a five you added GZPing at the top Couple other guys had a different list. Then we talked about Google and Russia with Then we talked about Google and Russia with Navalny, and now this leads me to the second richest man in America, which is who? Elon Musk. So watch what Elon Musk does. Elon Musk got pissed off this week. Elon Musk is angry about a new bill that includes a $4,500 tax incentive for electric vehicles built by companies with unions. It's an insider story. Democrats have proposed they build with a $4,500 tax incentive for electric vehicles

built by unionized companies, unionized companies. Musk tweeted that the bill has been engineered by lobbyists for Ford and the United Auto Workers Union to bill also grants a $7,500 base consumer incentive for new EV sold in the US and it would allow foreign made cars to claim that incentives for five years. This provision would apply to made cars to claim that incentives or five years. This provision would apply to Ford cars assembled in Mexico.

And a follow-up tweet, replying to a Twitter user who said, President Joe Biden would be making America's made cars a priority musk set. What a musk say, it doesn't have it here. So musk said something though. Yeah. Impact the president's official account. Anyway, so you took a shot at him. David, if he can pull up the tweet so we can see there's something like, how is this going to help Americans? Yeah, and also don't forget earlier this year, the DSA tried to put a plant in one of

the Democratic Socialists of America, tried to put a plant in one of Musk's Texas, operating places where he went in there and tried to convince everybody to unionize. And Elon Musk said he was like unionized tomorrow and I will get rid of everybody's stock incentives. So I don't know why you guys would do this. We're making tons of money together. You know, and also man, look, this is not just electric cars by the way Pat. This is most of Joe Biden, most of the quote unquote

human infrastructure investment that's happening in this green new recovery act that they're about to drop on us, it's all going to the unions and it's all going to the union specifically because what do those unions do? They kick back where to the Democratic powers. This this this re human infrastructure said he said he's a war chest for Democrat politics. He's still sleeping is what he said. He's still sleeping. Yeah, sleep.

Yeah, but by the way, going back to it, then this validates why the richest man doesn't have the power. I disagree completely. So you say in Elon Musk's power? No, but the richest, see, the richest man has power, but you're talking about, maybe I misunderstood what you're saying,

like Elon Musk is the second richest man in the world. So Ford has a ton of money. Whoever's running Ford has a ton of money. Well, that's an individual that rich is billionaires in America. The president, well, maybe you're right. But my thing is this, the president is all the way at the bottom of the list

and I still believe that because without those unions, Joe Biden isn't doing anything. These people know this is bad for America and they're doing it anyway because they're bought and paid for by these lobbies. They're bought and paid for. Yeah. So the politician is down on that list. My big thing is this, and maybe you guys can answer this because you guys have better foresight.

All right. What is the end goal of all this? What is the 5,000 yard view? 3, 4, 5 years from now, there's not these aren't stupid people that are doing these remarkably stupid things. What are they looking to accomplish? What is the end game here? I don't think anybody really knows.

Nobody knows. I mean, I think that if you're super left leaning, you're hoping for some sort of equality where everybody is the same, but that's not true because they want to be running stuff, right? And we don't really know who's really in charge. I mean, you hear Joe Biden and he's, I've been instructed to ask him the question. So we don't know, we don't really know. I'm going to get mad at him if I answer questions.

Yeah, yeah. Or when they shut him off in the middle or you know, one of the things I thought was very interesting is the press's response to him turning around and just walking away versus trumpets it there and just get annihilated. They're coming at him, coming at him, kind of. He literally just be like, no more questions. Walk away and they say, thank you. It's like such a different thing.

Pat, what do you think? What is the 10,000 foot view? What is going on worldwide? You get two types of people, man. Those who are driven by freedom and those who are driven by control and force. It's power versus force. There's two ways to get it.

One is through choice, one is through force. Those who are driven by, leave me alone, let me build my life and do what I want to do and make my money. They typically piss off the people that want to control because they don't give them a time of day. And the other person eventually goes and finds a different way to gain their power. For example, the other day, I'm on the phone with Ford GT asking them for the GT the the GT what do you call it the new Ford? Yeah, whatever the GT is the one from the

movie for versus for us like a million out of car but I'm on the list. I'm stocking Ford got it check. So I'm on the phone with the sky and I'm talking to the guy I'm like yeah so you know I've been on this list you're in a half we're going back and forth I'm like like, here's this guy, Steve, all these guys that have vouched for me and, you know, Galpin. And he says, yeah, I can't help you. And one minute conversation, two minute conversation, five minute conversation, ten minute conversation. And the guy's like, I can't do nothing for you.

I can't help you. Is there anything else I can help you with? He's talking like this, right? You know, I get off the phone, you know what I said? He said, I said, a $20 and our person has more power than I do. Yeah. He has the power of no folks who work at DMV who freaking get off of their job is to be able to tell you whatever the hell they want to tell you because they don't give a shit if you write a real review for them. You got freedom people, you got control people.

Freedom people want to be able to say, I don't like this restaurant, I'm gonna buy this place and run it better. You don't wanna do this, I'm gonna buy this, and I think I'm gonna build it into better home, better building, everything to them is that. And then the other guys who are power hungry who don't wanna do the work of a capitalist

will look and say, you know what, he's really pissing me off. He didn't risk me, he didn't follow my rule, He didn't follow my guideline. I'm gonna create new laws I'm gonna go and make his life a living hell not by competing with you, but through laws So this is a very interesting game and you think it's like they want like a global one-world guy I think it's control buddy. I think it's a control game I think the mission is to control the people they hate the most which is the the job creators, it's the capitalists. They can't stand the job creators because look, you know my story, like why you just heard his story. Here's a guy that's Tomah Colcane, Harold and all this other stuff, right? And now he's built a business nearly half a billion out

of company that we're Tomah, 250 employees and has an incredible lifestyle. Looks like Shining Tatum sounds like Charles Brown. There you go. So in an actor magic Aaron magic Aaron magic singer This is what they make it is moving forward. You got to get him assured magic singer mental magic Aaron. I'm on it Achieve a staff So you got guys are like look, you know, I'm gonna go build my business So in school how many kids were supposed to be the guy Like how many kids who were the like valedict? They followed the rules so well and I'm supposed to be the guy. Like how many kids who were like valid,

they followed the rules so well and I'm supposed to be, and then next thing, you know, this freaking kid, that's a D student, C student, B students, like, and everybody in school is talking about that guy, and it was supposed to be that guy. You don't think that guy deep down inside, for 12 years he's the guy. You just described all the Brooklyn.

But for four years, this guy's the guy. So then they're like, you know what, the way I'm gonna get even, by going and being a lawyer and creating laws. where I'm going to get even by being a politician it's a very weird. I dare this plumber make more money than me I have four degrees. I have four degrees. How dare this trucker make a quarter million dollars because I have my PhD because in their mind they've been sold that everything with success starts with you having a degree. So that paper is worth so much to them. So to be able to save that they sacrifice

for eight years to follow the rules. Now you mean to tell me those rules are a little bit broken? I cannot buy that. I have to protect my ego. I'm gonna go out of this. That's such a good point. Because that's literally what they're doing with the VAX. They're like, well, they took it. So they're allowed to, they follow the rules.

They can go to the restaurant. I mean, you're talking about Tradon literally just said that the people that follow the rules get to live life. And the people that don't, they do not get to be in our society. And it's like, whoa, dude, like, who are you to even remark you're the prime minister? How can you say something I go back to your interview with Jordan Peterson you remember you asked them about it and this was years ago before which one which oh But you asked them weasel. Oh my god And this was before the world even knew who they want was go to YouTube type in type in Jordan Peterson and Justin Trudeau and he just he just won a very hotly contested re-election as well. Type in Jordan and then put Justin.

Just put, yeah, and then put Justin. There you go, that'll come up. It's a short clip, I think. Move off of it to see how long it is. Move, okay. This had to be three, four years ago. Make it a little bit bigger. Can you press mute on that, bro?

It's just holy shit, David. What? David's pissed off at somebody. Sorry, mom, sorry, mom, but you're gonna pay. You gotta pay. Listen, can we get audio now or no? You're not gonna give it to us. Oh, man who capitalized with that for too long.

Go back a little bit. Go back a little bit. So I asked him what he thought. I did keep going back. an hour now, you're not going to give it to us. Oh, man who capitalized without virtue on the name of his father. Go back a little bit. So I asked him what he thought. I keep going back. I asked him about, I'm given speed round, and I'm given names. I said, what are your thoughts about Justin Trudeau?

This is his answer. Click on it. Trudeau, Justin Trudeau. That, I just shake my head at that. Okay. Oh, man who capitalized without virtue on the name of his father. Wow. Yes, wow is right. He had an ounce of character. He would have never run.

Listen, I'm not happy about him. He had no right. Well, he had a right. He's a citizen. He can run. He didn't earn his name. Not impressed. Why do you say that? Is it specific? Because his father was very famous. Sure. And so that put Trudeau at a tremendous advantage with regards to moving into a leadership position in Canada. It's not excusable. You should move ahead on your own merits, especially if you're daring to do something like run a country. It's like it's too, you have a moral duty. If you have the advantage of a name, you have a moral duty if you have the advantage of a name you have a moral duty to supersede the accomplishments of the person who bore that name and gave it its weight before you dare capitalize on it in the public sphere and there's Trudeau did none of that.

He can he knows how to behave, he knows how to act in public, he had the upbringing for it. Other than that, there's nothing there, not that I that I can see and if there was he wouldn't have run the way he did He's not not an impressive person in my estimation Some strong opinions there. Well when he he appointed 50% of females to 50% of his cabinet because it was I what do you say? Well because it's 2015 It's like no quarter of your elected members of parliament were female. If your job was to pick the most qualified people, period, regardless of their genitalia,

because they're leading the country, you pick the most qualified people. Steady abdicated his responsibility to make those difficult decisions and then wallpapered it over with this casual virtue of, well, I'm going to promote women. It's like, no, you're gonna promote competent people You weasel

No excuse you can pause it right that I'm trying to hold my slip from laughing Yeah, he is not a I think it's fair to say he doesn't like Well, congrats prime minister on your on your narrow victory. Yeah, he really doesn't like him No, no, he really doesn't like him. No, no, he really doesn't like him You know, have you seen the story of how Jordan Peterson became Jordan Peterson? Me and like going to a quarrel question and all that and when he was in school and the trans They they they took place and he came out public about it next thing You know, he got tens of millions of views and then they interviewed him and the rest of history Jordan Peterson become Jordan Peters. Yeah, you know, he's in Dallas

Jordan Peters and become Jordan Peters. Jordan Peters. Next thing you know, he's in Dallas. Next thing you know, he's in Dallas. Can we also give a shout out to Pat's hair man, your hair phenomenon. You know, we're just looking at that. Come along with it. It's gonna longer look at. Absolutely.

Comparing to two. Really good. Do you remember the conversation about China and 5G where everybody was talking about China, 5G, 5G, 5G? China accounts for 40%. China accounts for 40% of 6G patent application surveys. So if you look at this is not even 5G. We're talking 6G, not 5, 6G.

Apparently it's 10 times faster than 5G. So China's 6G development had been expected to slow due to sanctions against Huawei imposed by the US government and the President Trump, but China has maintained its competitiveness by mobilizing state-run companies and universities around 20,000 patents, applications were surveyed for nine core 6G technologies, including communication, quantum technology-based stations, and artificial intelligence, China topped a list with 40.3% of all 6G patent filings,

followed by USS 35%, then Japan's 9.9, then Europe 8.9, South Korea 4.2, the upcoming generation of mobile communication technology, which is set to be more than 10 times than Japan's 9.9, then Europe 8.9, South Korea 4.2, the upcoming generation of mobile communication technology, which is said to be more than 10 times faster than 5G, is expected to enable fully autonomous driving, high definition virtual reality, and worldwide internet connections,

even in remote deserts. Even in remote deserts. Why would China want to have, it's interesting, They're trying to control that because can you imagine if you know how Elon wanted to go out and put the What do you call it? Satellite up there to be able to offer Wi-Fi to everybody for free and it was gonna start off Sloan all this other stuff Guess what's the one country that wouldn't want that to become a reality?

Yeah, it's China China doesn't want that to become a reality are Yeah, China doesn't want that to become a reality. Are you kidding me? Free internet for me to be able to log on and see what's going on. It's more the freedom of information. It's more the free flow of information. No doubt about it. They wouldn't want that to happen. Can you pull up six G versus 5G? Everything I know about 5G and 6G, I'll be honest. I know from value-taming.

You spoke with, I believe it was a gentleman from the CIA about this. Spalding. Yeah, about a year, general spalding. About a year back. He basically said, if you let, what is it? Highway, how do you pronounce that? Oh, yeah. Highway, they're, Huawei.

Huawei, yeah. Huawei, if he's like, if you let them in, then you've just given all your information. All they do is just farm information. They come into these countries and they give them free access to free fiber optics, free satellite access, free internet, free everything. All they're doing is just taking all the information they possibly can. Here's what I want you to do. Go back, type in in search.

Okay, go to images. You did it right. Now go to images. And then click on the one all the way right there, the telecom network progression, bottom left, second row, right there. This tells you the difference. Click on it again to make it bigger so everybody can see it. Go a little higher, go a little higher, go a little higher, right there. Plus control plus to make the screen a little bit bigger. And you can say no thanks to that.

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Four G, one movie and 20 seconds. Five G, one movie and three movies and one second. Six G is 300 movies and one second. Go. This right here? Go. This one here? Go, go, go, go. This right here, three G. That was a game breaker for Napster, bro.

When you could download 100 songs on lime wire Napster until you gave yourself 15 viruses on your computer. I don't know, I don't know. I didn't think that's accurate though. Three G, I never got a movie in two minutes. One download a movie in two minutes. That's what type of movie is, man. It says three gigabyte living.

There's some movies on some sites that begin with X that you only need, but three, four minutes of a movie and two puzzle. What's that move? It says three gigabyte. There's some movies on some sites that begin with X that you know, you only need but three four minutes of Movie, but three gig I yeah Three gigs it right now and five G won't take you one second shout out to the great Miss Benz for for her many great performances on the movies that I would download and Well, we can tell what you did. You know, well, how do you think I got these four on? Zaryn, I can tell you shit.

At least don't reveal it to everybody. Keep your secrets to yourself. By the way, you know what would be very weird if they mandated masks and porn? It'd be very rare. That's when you know we're going to lose the country. If that happens, I'm sure it has some parts where people wear masks.

I have a shit. Masked and unmasked porn. Yeah, I'm sure people that want to keep it appropriate. You have to. You have to. Yeah. So it's gotta be safe. We gotta save.

What's there some guidance about like doing a doggy style with the thing? Oh man. I think there was something. I have. I have an unbelievable story about it. I can't tell it on this podcast because I think we'll get kicked off But I have an unbelievable story about that. Wait did you did you bring a mask?

I told him the story. I was dating this girl. She was a ballerina and Brooklyn and they put out a Deplosio's health department put out a List of do's and don'ts and she Beautiful girl, but the hyper hyper crazy with this stuff and she was gonna follow these do's and don'ts and she beautiful girl but the hyper hyper hyper crazy with the stuff and she was gonna follow these do's or don'ts and She was I'm not gonna keep it here. Yeah, he put you in stuff. You can tell us afterwards. By the way Manipackia running for president is it likely that he could win? Manipackia running for president. Can he win? What? What are you gonna think like next thing you're gonna tell me like a reality? He's gonna be president of the United States or something. It's crazy. He's running for president

2022. I'm a fighter and I will always be a fighter inside and outside the ring We need government to serve our people with integrity compassion transparency the president Kronen president Rodrigo do what? Do you want to have that? Yeah has led a brutal campaign against illegal drugs and said last week He would rather die first before facing an international tribunal Tribunal the day after the international criminal court announced it would investigate allegations of crimes against humanity linked to the crackdown that has left thousands dead. Can you imagine Pacquiao becomes a president?

I mean he's got to be the most popular guy there. He's been a congressman there for a long time. I would have been surprised at all. He's not, I don't think he's gonna be the only fighter that's present in the country. Apparently, I believe it's Vladimir Klitsko. One of the Klitsko brothers is being positioned for a run at the Ukraine as well. So, hey, look, man, I don't know enough

about Filipino politics to comment on it, but he's a I was waiting to get your level of Ex-President's policy. You know, I was sorry. I used to know Tagalog, but I just Yeah, but I would say this though, like one of the things about the future, right, is goes all the way back to what you said before brand first, right? Like brand first. Manny Pacquiao's brand is incredibly strong. He's known as a person of integrity. He's known as somebody that that you know, cares about the community. And Pat, you talk about a synergist, right?

Like, he's not a catalyst. He's not somebody that's going to turn one side against the other. As far as I know. So, you know, maybe this is the future. We're laughing about it now. But maybe the future is popular people who care about their own brand. So they're not going to do something crazy and out of character. That can bring the two powerful sides

together. Maybe, maybe instead of fighting this and looking at, you know, bad talking about how Jake Paul is going to be president and Naomi C is going to be president. Logan, I'm sorry. We've got to embrace the reality of the situation being that, hey, look, man, this is the the quote unquote unquote new normal and maybe there's a good thing that can come out of this Maybe there's synergy to be had by people that are universally liked being in positions of power I think you know, it's been proven since Reagan right? I mean you got a guy like Reagan who goes from being a sag president to being the the spokesperson for GE and they were paying them 750 to a million year to go around talking about how great GE is to

Him to in Hollywood and then becomes a governor, you know, and then becomes president like ability Well, I don't know man because like ability isn't really a useful Useful trait in a leader, right like you have to be disagreeable. I think it's a useful trait to be likable I mean, you know, George Bush Jr. Everybody said once have a beer. Who do you want to have to beer with? George Bush, you know, yeah, I can see I can see why people vote for likable people, you know, but I don't know a leader being a leader. Being being in a position of leadership, you guys both are on company. Sometimes you can't be.

It's a lot of everybody. Trust you want to be in business with you, right? People got to like you. because think about it this way What's more important like or trust which comes first like or trust? I got to like it trust there you go So so before you could be the most trusting human being in the world But no one likes you because your first impression sucks I'm sorry We're never gonna find out the juice you offer which is trust totally yeah, so likability is extremely important business

This is one of my problems with robber green really really smart guy And I love his work, but like 48 rules of power that there should have been a caveat at the beginning That's like unless you know how to be charismatic. This is just 48 ways to be a jerk like unless you can be charismatic Would you like the book or no? Why don't you like the book because it's too dark? Yes, it's like a How to achieve in a very negative way right? It's that you don't have a very negative way, right? You don't have to follow those rules. You don't have to do it that way.

It's kind of like a manipulative guide to manipulation and winning through power. I just didn't like it. I mean, I read it, but I thought, well, some of it was true for sure, but I don't think that I really won't give my son, Ash, or that book, and be like, read this. This is the rules to life. Like, Jordan, you know, read this is the rules to power. I would, because I wouldn't want him to live his life that way you know what his reason was to write the book he said he wrote it for you to know how

those people run to go against them not necessarily for you to be like that but for it was kind of a guide I agree with you but he said sure but I agree with you have you read his other books he wrote a book a art of seduction I don't know if you've read it that's a ridiculous book it's an incredible book art of seduction then you got thirty-three strategies awards my favorite out of all of them thirty-three strategies or law number four is insane you got a big shot out from any young about the power uh...

uh... about uh... pat what was the paranoid uh... only the paranoid survive he said it was a grow yeah he said it was the best book you ever read uh... it's a ridiculous book and you grow is uh... legend for what he did people swear by and he grow and he grow is uh... one of a kind leader on what he did by the way did you hear what bar warrant

trump of that he was gonna lose the election to get to the story and inside of me read it to your bar warrant trump that he would lose the election because of suburban voters just think you're a f&s whole book says to trump okay attorney general bar took a blunt approach with president trump in april 2020 while discussing his reelection chances the crux at a problem bar told trump was that most suburban republican voters just think you're you're an f&s whole according the new book, Bob Woodward. By the way, Bob Woodward's got to sell like 20 million copies of his book.

Every other day, some like this comes out of his book. The attorney general went on to tell the president that he had become beltway captive and needed to appeal to the broader group of voters than just his die hard base. Bar reportedly told Trump the suburban Republican voters don't give a shit about Trump's vendetta against his perceived foes. Do you agree? I think approaching in that way makes sense.

I think that as long as a solution oriented, he's not just coming in and saying, everybody thinks you're an asshole. Nobody's going like that. But if he came in with a solution and a suggestion, I think being blunt with Trump, if you have his respect, which obviously will embark at the time, did probably. I think it makes sense to come Adam like that versus kind of pandering to him or whatever. I don't know if that would work. How do you think Trump reacted when he said that?

Do you think he's kind of like, I don't think so, I disagree or do you think, like you think so, tell me why. Like what do you think his response was? Or did he say, hang on, I'm sending a tweet. He's to get the fuck out of my office. If I say Trump would probably say, okay, Bill, Bill, what election did you ever win?

I've been seeing this. Whatever, what election did you, you don't know what you're talking about. And that's also, with all due respect to Bill Barr, who I liked, it's full of shit. That's not why he lost. He didn't lose his vermin. He lost because he let, he did all this bluster.

All right, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, you know, talk his cheap is why he lost. First of all, if he even lost, but not, not to go there, but the talk his cheap is why he lost because Fauci is still there. He should have got rid of Fauci. He had Fauci.

Fauci was, was full of it. He should have got rid of sexiest man alive. Sexiest man alive, for, can he credible, six pack? After all of this big talk and bluster, after all of this, you know, late night tweets about do one thing and won't eff you up, he lets an army of starbuck baristas completely take the country by force. Every city they plant their flag 60 feet wide in front of every capital building

in America. If you're going to be a law and order guy and then you lose law and order, well, they they call this bluff. He was a populist. He waited for the polls to tell him what to do and then he reacted. So they were able to make him do whatever They wanted every time he would you let from behind I think I think I lost I think he the two reasons he I think really the one reason he definitely lost is Chrona 19 right the crew of iris is why I lost if you look at like the polls before I like the I always like the betting polls Because the betting polls, you know, these are guys putting money on the line He was 99% favorite 99 99.01, favorite, before coronavirus.

In January, coronavirus happened, we see what happened. It was a 91% favorite, three hours to go in the... Well, yeah, I agree. But that shows you that he lost because of the... If the coronavirus hadn't happened, he would still be present. I think everybody agrees on that. No, no, no. Left the right middle and everybody agrees.

He would have won. But then the other thing, you know, the thing that, you know, is he is... The reason, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no's a mean guy, he's a bad man, right? And too many people started feeling that way because he would tweet like that constantly, you know. You would have personally known orange man as bad as bad, right? So I think if you would have done way less of that and just let his actions do more of the speaking, I think that would have helped.

But he did run into the coronavirus and I don't know how you could come out of that positively. I mean, he was getting crap for shutting down the planes to China and they were all all saying he's a xenophobic and all this stuff. So he could have people like, well, he could have shut it down earlier. Well, then what would happen?

It'd been more of a xenophobic. You would have, I mean, like, let's say two weeks before he could shut it down, he shuts down all your travel into America. People would think he was crazy. They want to get rid of him. Well, this is the thing, like that, exactly what you're saying. They kept going back and forth on,

well, people are going to think, well, people are going to think, well, what, what, what, were you going to and forth on well people are gonna think well people are gonna think What what what were you gonna get it right Donald was the press gonna be like you know what Donald? You got this one right No, you're not a racist absolute you nailed it So like that that right there is my reasoning for why he lost he lost because he kept trying to cow-tow to the people that We're never gonna vote for him in the first place. Yeah. As soon as they, as soon as they tore down the first statue, we should have been like, all right, Bet, Rico. Rico, let's go.

You got federal case. Yeah. Any one of you guys destroys a single thing on federal ground? Yeah, that's his mind. And then any organization you were part of, conspiracy. Rico, you guys wanna play this game? Okay, we'll round you up. All right, and I'm a libertarian saying that.

Yeah, okay, because the non-crushed principle doesn't, it's not pacifism, dude. All right, if people are coming in to be intentionally, you know, it's sedition to me. It was treasonous. It was sedition. And the business owners and those communities

needed to be protected. And if those politicians and those community weren't gonna protect these people, somebody had to. And that's what he said he was gonna do. And he didn't do it. So in many ways, I feel like he deserved to lose. Whether you could question a legitimacy of it or not,

he deserved to lose, because he all that tough talk, he didn't follow through. He didn't get the job done. What part of it, what part are you saying, with riots and all this stuff? Absolutely. Absolutely, absolutely. The problem is, there's no right answer to that, right?

If you had done that, he would have probably lost just as bad, you know, how would it, how would that be completely? He would have won if he came in and done. I disagree completely. I also think that he let his opponents have too much free reign as soon as, as soon as this, I knew that this thing was done as soon as the Supreme Court in

Pennsylvania changed the rules so that votes could be counted like two weeks after the election and that people that that didn't live in the state their votes Would still be count. I was like, okay, they're literally they're legally rigging this. Yeah, legally. So then what was the pushback? Can you do me a favor and pull up the What do you call it the story between Rogan and What's his name? What's the Rogan Hauer Stern story? If you can pull that up.

Interesting, somebody told me something very interesting yesterday. I'm not saying this, folks at YouTube, I'm just telling you, I looked at the statistic, I thought it was interesting. So Hauer Stern says we have no time for idiots in this country anymore. Hauer Stern defends Joe Rogan's criticism, defends those criticizing Joe Rogan. So how are some remains unimpressed

with Joe Rogan, specifically with his preferred treatment for COVID-19? Well, maybe incensed would be a better word to use as Stern very openly and heatedly criticized the podcast of during this serious XM radio show criticism, which he continues to stand by that his audio was on. Rogan began to speak on Vongomovic, Ivermectin, which was the center cnn okay keep going lord they keep saying i'm taking horse the warmer i literally got a from a doctor it's an american company said rogan they want a nobel price in twenty fifteen four years in human

beings and cnn is saying i'm taking horse the warmer they must be so light and then this leads to i in fact stern uh... deemed those who won't get vaccinated at shitheads uh... needless to say you know i donternals are coming, look at the strung, got themselves some criticism. All I said was everyone should get the vaccine. It should be mandatory. This brought down a slew of publicity, like I haven't even seen ever before. It's mind blowing.

We're trapped in a country with imbessels, you continue, guess what? When we get COVID, we don't end up in hospitals, so we don't overload hospitals. So what did I say? We have no time for idiots in our country anymore. Rogan has yet to address Thern's comments. By the way, it's a couple of things here. One, Howard Stern's probably not too happy that Rogan's kicking us.

Okay, that's number one. Let's just say, I used to say that podcasts aren't radio. Yeah, they're in a bullshit. You know, the other day I watched a Michael Schumacher's documentary. I don't know if you guys have seen Michael Schumacher's documentary. If you haven't seen it have seen Michael Schumacher's documentary if you haven't seen it

That's a must watch I'm a big Sennoff fan if you haven't watched Schumacher's I've watched Sennoff's documentary hundred times watch Schumacher's the other set I own 54 minutes and He said some very interesting things one of the things he said he said He said I don't like to brag about my things because you'll call me cocky But also don't talk about my weaknesses because it's your job to find my weaknesses. Not my shoe micro says that, which is powerful to say that. But then there's a part of it when shoemockers coming up and he passes up a Senna,

where Senna gets a little bit uncomfortable about it, where there's a, you know, shoemaker takes the cut, you know, cuts them off, and Senna loses his mind, goes to Schumacher afterwards, with his hand on his shoulder. You don't do something like this and Schumacher loses his mind, saying, I'm just doing what you did to everybody.

This is what you used to do. Play the game. You two, people play the game, I'm doing that. I'm doing what you showed us to do, right? I think there's a part of a stern, it's not happy with the fact that Rogan's probably coming up and it's taken his lunch, and quite frankly, Rogan's more attractive

and more versatile than a Howard Sternis. I don't know what Howard Stern does for fun. I don't know if he goes shooting, hunting, UFC, all this other stuff. People probably link Rogan to more of a man's man and Howard Sternis in a different thing. He's much more diverse.

He has something to see on everything, whereas Howard Stern was a shock shock and he's turned into whatever he is now. I used to do a couple shows with Jackie, the joke man, Martin, who was with Howard Stern. Yeah. And there was a dude who wanted to do this investment. And I was like, I don't know. And we were in Times Square. This is anecdotal. He'll probably say I'm lying. This 100% true. You're in Times Square. Okay. People were going by, I wanted to show them the power of social media and digital media and this and that. People were going by, I would just grab him and go,

hey, can I ask you a question? Like, what's up? Do you know how it started? And guys that were over 40, be like, what is a stupid question? Of course, I know how it started. It's like, oh, my bet. Then I'd grab somebody that was like, 25 a year, I'm like, hey, man,

you know how it started? They were like, nah, I don't know, who's how it started? Like, they would have no idea. If you went around this office and we work in media and everybody here is on the news all day. Anybody under 30 years old, I would bet one in 10

would know who Howard's not in this. No, what he does can name one thing that he's famous for. Meanwhile, how many people in that office under 30 know who Joe Rogan is? Everybody. So come on. Yeah, do me a favor. Pull up cases by countries.

Put COVID cases by country. This will be the last topic and we'll wrap up. Tapping COVID cases by country. COVID cases by country. COVID cases by country. Yeah, there you go. Click on that. The first one will come up, no, not that one.

Is that the main website to look at? One of those two is the one. See if it's that one. Okay, right, that's the one. So far, 231 million cases worldwide. 273. 233. Go view by country right there in the green at the top right underneath

the 231 million under the 231 million. Go a little higher right there buddy you got it. Okay. So US has 43 million total cases. India's got what? 33 million cases. Total death. Can you go by percentage of death? Do they do that here or no? Percentage of death. Okay. Of the population. Yeah, so if you look at 700 divided by 43 million, let me do some math here.

If you can go back. 700,000 by 333 million. Yeah, so 700,000 by 33 million. But if you go, I'm more curious about how many got it and how many recovered, not necessarily the population. So go back up, 446. No, where are you all right now, it's fine. Let me check here.

All right, let's do 446 as a total death in India, divided by 33,592. in India divided by 33, 592. Because there's a website that says India has the lowest, the 160 lowest death percentage on COVID. Because there's a billion point four people. So you know from the people that get it versus dying in India, it's not only one, it's 0.01%. Is there a country that's conspicuously missing from this list, my dear child? Yeah, China's not on this list.

North Korea, 135, 135 on 7 million. Yeah, so there's studies on why, Reuters did a study by the way. Reuters did a study, the fact that India made it public that all of India's populace can take Ivermech then to fight COVID. I don't know if you looked at this or not. That's what India said. It's like on Reuters.

If you typed that up and they're saying that's one of the reasons and there's a big battle going up with that to say that's not the reason why they're doing well. Anyways, I don't know. That's just a conversation that came up last night. I wanted to verify that on the podcast here.

Final thoughts before we wrap up. This is what science was for the longest time. I mean, one of the things that scares me is you want to find the stats by the way. But it's okay, keep going. Yeah, one of the things that scares me when anything else is this idea that they say the science is settled.

Like the science was never settled. Can you imagine if somebody like Einstein didn't do the theory of relativity? He was like, well, you know, the science is settled, dude. I don't know what to tell you. Like, hey, you know, the earth's flat, guys, science is settled. I don't know. No reason for us to go forward with this stuff.

My 79 year old dad got COVID and pneumonia simultaneously. And he was down for two or three weeks. He had the vaccine earlier this year. If he didn't have it, I don't know if he'd be around or not. Joe and I both agree on that. I think there is a good amount of debate in that topic. So I've said it before I say again, I'm not anti-vax, man. I'm vaccinated in so many ways. I'm not anti-science in any way whatsoever, man. This could be the greatest medical miracle

of all time. I think Brett Weinstein's right, you know, not to give a free plug, but you know, talking about the evolutionary science of this, rolling it out while this thing is still active, it's gonna have mutations, that's why we keep needing different boosters. So, that there's a problem involved with rushing this stuff out. The idea that they say that there's no issues

with anything, but it's only been nine months old, is crazy. But if I can, Pat, give a free plug, I'm gonna be in Nashville this weekend doing shows at Zainey, so if anybody's in Nashville, I want to check out a comedy show. I'm gonna be in Nashville too. Yeah, you're gonna be in Nashville, man.

You got Sunday, she come out to show on, at Zainey's with Carolyn, I don't even find, how do they find the show? Just come, go on my Instagram on Gerard DGF, at Gerard DGF, and they can find the link in there. Give it to me again, at Gerard DGF at Gerard DGF and they can they can find the link give it to me again at Gerard Yep DG AF DG AF okay I put that there if you look at it go to his Instagram if you're a Nashville go watch Gerard the Sunday and give him some love with that being said Aaron thank you to come on the body this was great really enjoyed it

really had a good time that's what you call an awkward hug, but it's all good. We got it on camera. Take care everybody. We'll do it again next week. Bye bye bye bye bye.