PBD Podcast - The Godfather's Carlo Rizzi: Gianni Russo | PBD Podcast | EP 129

Episode Date: March 8, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Adam Sosnick and American actor and singer Gianni Russo. Best known for his role as Carlo Rizzi in the 1972 film The Godfather.  TOPICS Gianni Russo's Background Gianni Russo's Best Elvis Story Gianni lost his virginity to Marilyn Monroe The Time Pablo Escobar almost killed Gianni Russo How Gianni got his role in the Godfather Godfather 50th anniversary Gianni's beef with Marlon Brando Russia/Ukraine Gianni Vito Russo is an American actor and singer. He is best known for his role as Carlo Rizzi in the 1972 film The Godfather. Follow Gianni Russo on Instagram here: https://bit.ly/3IA87NX Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Adam “Sos” Sosnick has lived a true rags to riches story. He hasn’t always been an authority on money. Connect with him on his weekly SOSCAST here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw4s_zB_R7I0VW88nOW4PJkyREjT7rJic Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.   To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail] --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

We're live. Okay. Fantastic. So, folks, we have the legendary Gianni Russo from some who would call the greatest movie of all time, and a lot of experts would call it the greatest movie of all time. Godfather 2. He played Cardo. Godfather 1.

Godfather 1. Godfather 1. Godfather one. Godfather one. Godfather, one Godfather, two, but Godfather one with the legendary scene, the legendary scene, which maybe we'll get into that. And it was crazy about today, Johnny, that kind of makes us and crazy. Today is International Woman's Day, I don't know what's saying. And we couldn't have had anybody, but we had the International Woman's Day with a I said former player, you said, when did I stop? Yeah, I was like, when did you ever stop? Yeah, I'm up there. But you're a lover, not a fighter.

And the Godfather, you were kind of an abusive husband, but in real life, you're a lover. That was in the script, believe me. Barzini told me to do it. Barzini had to get sonny to the toeboards. So what we're going to do today, Adam and I are going to try to do a scene from a movie. And we're going to see if you can remember this scene from this movie. Maybe you won't recognize it, but we're going to try to reenact. Something to be familiar with this scene.

So we'll see how far into we can go with our acting folks. Stick around, you know, this could be our opportunity to pick up a movie or something. But while we're doing this, a lot of stuff's going on in the world. Gas prices right now, California, as of what? Yesterday, 528, a gallon, highest ever in the state of California, it says triple A, folks around the country are struggling with gas prices. US just announced biting this morning that we can't buy gas from Russia. That was just and I can you show that ban by the way so everybody can see it. Show that article for maybe some news. Biden to announce ban on Russian oil imports. Okay. That's not EU. That's not anybody else that's just us. Meanwhile, Putin

is not slowing down. Meanwhile, a lot of stuff that was said about Ukraine and Russia and the relationships, people are being more educated about what really is going on. You know a lot of times you hear about a crisis or a war or a challenge that's taking place, we overreact and then you kind of see, there's a different size to the story and you realize, okay, well why were you pushing for them to be part of NATO

when they said don't do it? If they're you trying to produce this ally, you going up against them, do you really want the relationship? And then at the same time, Putin being the kind of guy that, you know, you know, certain guys are getting to fight with and he says, if you say something, I'll knock your ass out, okay? Nine out of ten times, it's what? It's just a threat.

But there's that one guy that if you say something, he will knock you out. Putin's part of that community. So you have to be very careful how you're dealing with that. And maybe you have a different opinion. We'll talk about that as well. Oh, no, I love a different opinion. He is who he is. He is who he really is. And what's what's interesting is yesterday, I'm driving with Dylan and we're coming because he's this is their week out. Dylan was yesterday. Ticoles you this today and Dylan says so daddy did Ukraine No, they put in already start the nuclear war. I said what? It's what Dylan said. I said, how do you know about this?

He says oh, that's all everybody's talking about all my friends. This gets eight years old Wow, they put in already start the nuclear war. I'm like, not yet, buddy. Let's just hope it doesn't happen because the domino effect will be pretty ugly. So anyways, having said that, Johnny, for the few people that don't know your background, can you take a quick minute and tell everybody your background? My background.

Your background. A minute? Yes. Try to do it in a minute. I mean, you have, matter of fact, how about I do it for you? Here's what I'm going to do. Okay, here's what I'm going to do. When you and I did the show together, what was it? Three years? Three years ago. I can't even move in three years. That's the

last time you guys saw each other. He's at the same room. Oh, we're talking. I don't know. How many times I talked to him while we, yeah, correspond. Yeah. Like trying to. But in person, it's the person three years ago in my living room in New York How good does he look so he looks better today than it was three years ago. I'm not even kidding with you First thing I said is I can't believe how you look yeah, he looks better today The end of the if you go look at the podcast he looks better today than three years ago. What's your secret Johnny? Here we go. I'm doing stem cells man. Oh really doing stem cells I'm a bottom experiment my second experiment my first was

themselves. I'm a part of an experiment. My second experiment, my first was 1949 with Jonas Salt for the salt vaccine for polio. And then I got involved in this in a very strange way. I was rushed to New York Presbyterian about 12 years ago and for six gunshots. And hold on, what do you mean, you were? I was shot six times at close range. Anyway, a friend. A friend of the family, shot you. And when they went in to do it, they saw that my left side of my body was smaller than my right side,

not realizing my five years of polio. And the doctors that were operating on me Realized I'm a great candidate For having this stem cell how do you at the time? 71 no no 69 69 you so yeah, I'll be 80 this so what year was it for some you did it? 69 years old. Yeah, I'll be I'll be 80. So what year was it? Wow, for some you did it. Yeah, do you hear what you just said folks? He's gonna be 80 this December. 80. Hey, man.

Respect to you. Let me get some of that. Do you see? You said, by the way, show that King David. He showed that to see what he looks like there versus what he looks like today. Just show that picture. You look better today than you did in that picture. Okay. Tanner health here. Still bling bling and that says.

No, he's. I never checked them. All this has meaning. Yeah. Yeah, you did in that picture. Okay, Tanner health here still bling bling and that says No, he's All this has a meaning yeah everything here everything I wear is a meaning and that I just don't go to the store So I like that buy it. This is a pin for my grandfather the nights of Malta the mad Wow, I mean all the stuff needs them. What's the most meaningful piece of jewelry you're rocking? John Paul who is now a saint he gave me the crest that's covered right now Because a solidarity to Ukraine covered it with a black ribbon, but he gave me that 1948 what you're talking about the Pope Pope John Paul who's now a saint

Yeah, which and my little kids my grandkids say to me poppy you're the only guy we know, you really know we're Saint. You knew him. 1948. Because they all have pictures, yeah. 1948. I was 48. Oh, you were 48. Okay, you were 41, you gave it to him.

You met him over there? I was eight. Not again. No, not again. I was there for the, I knew three popes, two pride of him, the one that had to show it run, and then they inaugurated him, and I was part of that. I was very good friends with Bishop Mousinkus during the Vatican, and the man in the Vatican Bank,

and we were doing a lot of business out of Vegas for about 20 years with him. Johnny, for people who don't know, for people who don't know, you were, you dated, I mean, I've used a lot, a lot of big names, but Dion, you and, Dion, work with, together for how long? Ten years. I always a manager of 15 years.

I can't even say why I did that, but no, no, we were in, uh, uh, that's a very touchy situation for you, but, but the point, but you ran one of the biggest clubs in Vegas. Oh my god, I clubs. Yeah. Well, I, that was my second club. My first club was at Tiffany's, which I had Elvis Presley open at the drop of can hotel. And that was actually right after I did the Godfather. Kill this opened for you. Yeah. Open no open the

club for me stayed the whole weekend Thursday Friday Saturday. By the way, did you watch, did you watch his movie that's coming at Did you see the trailer? Have you seen it yet or no? No, can we show a trailer? I don't know if we can show a trailer. Anyways, it's not allowed. Okay, we're not going to show the trailer, but you were going to read his bio, but I tell you, you know, going off of Elvis. So I, I, I, Mario comes over Sunday night and he is watch this trailer that we can't show. Mario can verify this. He said he's watch it a hundred times, okay, because Mario grew up in an Elvis guy.

So he tells me, Pat, you got to watch Elvis Presley's last performance, Unchained Melody. You can tell when Elvis performs, he's not doing well. He performs Unchained melody he you can tell when Elvis performs. He's not doing well Oh, he performs unchained melody. You know which song it's unchained melody right Adam the song from ghosts, right? Guy no, no, no, unchained melody. That's a different one. No, it's a this unchained melody is a song from the ghost Yes, so ghosts you always tell me to favorite movie about Unchained melody he what he he, he performs it, saying this song's coming out in two weeks. This song comes out. He dies a couple weeks later. Okay. Elvis, to, to have him open up at your club, what Elvis story do you have? Tell us an

Elvis show. So many give us your best best Elvis. I mean, first of all, Elvis was working for a friend of mine called Kirk, a Korean who opened the international hotel. And Jim. Yeah. And it's very familiar. He's a star. He started off as a pilot. The way he got into the business was, was it the pilot for Bugs or something? He had his own little warmency. Or Ben's.

Yeah. Would you take a second and tell him what Kirk O'Courian means to you? You always bring a thing up all the time. For me, it's like, you know, he's a genius. And how he made his money and, you know, he's a genius and how he made his money and You know, he was also another guy that always did a beautiful woman and A lot of movie stars the mob the mom he flew a lot of those guys back and forth from LA to Vegas While they were going through building up Vegas

Oh, I know and then the airline business and all that stuff Yeah, I don't really know Well, let's tell us some stories of LVS and maybe Kurt. Well, Elvis Elvis. I met because of Kurt The idea when he opened the fourth July I forgot what year that was Bob Astreiser and did two weeks They did two shows a night at that time eight o'clock in midnight. This is 60s. What give it to you? No, the 70s, I think early 70s. Yeah, in Chinatown Hotel. Wait, is he the facts guy?

Yeah, they facts guy. What are you doing over there sleeping on the job? International Hotel Kirkakorian opened on Fourth of July, 1976. International Hotel, 1976. Just put the up. Continue. We're listening. So anyway, I got to know him because he said, how come everybody knows you?

I had Bentley's with Chinese chick show for seeing you. He liked all that stuff. But I knew his doctor. Elias Gahnum. And they used to be, Dr. Feelgood. And anyway, so we got to be friends and he invited me to hang out with him. And we used to fly to San Francisco. You didn't get to believe this.

Two or three times. This is Kirk or Corian or Elvis. Elvis, straight out. We want to talk about Elvis, right? Yeah, Elvis, yeah. So you fly to San Francisco, fly to San Francisco and have peanut butter, bananas, and bacon sandwiches. I should, we got the chef to it. Not on all this the best. I go. I went once. I said, I need to go and plus eat this.

I just got to forget about it. I come with six o'clock in the morning. I was like, forget it. But one night we come back early and we're watching the western and when he got mustard out of the service they gave him two plated gold cup 45s and he always has them around. We're watching a western he gets into it. His crew is on one side I have a couple of guys with me on my side and they turn over to couches and they're shooting above the TV like they're fighting with the guys on the TV. Bank of order is sweet three thousand. It's a pen house of the international tell. Of course, if there was people upstairs with 45s, they'd be dead in their beds. Shot up the whole room, but he didn't realize we all carry, guess everybody carried guns. So now everybody's 70s or 60s.

In the 60s. Okay, got it. No 70s. Okay, Mr. 70s. Do you get the date? Yes, so Cacorian hired Barbara Streisand and Elvis Presley for the opening in 76. Told you. 70. I got a good one. all man. So yet I'm not. No, but so I got friendly with him. So I opened my club called Tiffany's inside the Toronto Hotel because Frank Costello, nobody realized in Joe Kennedy, owned that behind the scenes. So I had nothing to do. So I opened the club only three days a week, only six hours a day.

I opened it midnight to six in the morning, after hours, after hours, and had tables in there, did everything. I made more money in those 16 hours. And I don't want to be in Vegas on Monday, Tuesday Wednesday. Nobody's there. So I go to LA, Palm Palm Beach or whatever. And he came. He said, I'll open it because he after his show, one, one 30, he'd come and hang out there all morning. But and we were on the radio dispatchers to everybody. So you got a cam and say, I want to go here. They said, Oh, no, you got to go. Elvis is over there. And then Sammy came. Everybody standing out there was, I was a gym and put the club on the map. Sammy Davis, Jr. Yeah. standing out there was a gym and put the club on the map. Sammy Davis Jr. Yeah. Yeah. I called the Tiffany's and I put the Tiffany gates like bars and the front with

Tiffany guards like your jewelry store and all the coffee tables were jewelry counters. We had big jewelry in it. It was a great idea. Wow. And you can only buy a liquor. The food we gave away because all the restaurants were closing, and they had a core kitchen. I said, what are you going to do with this food? He said, oh, we give it to them. I said, hold it. Sell it back to me.

All of it, you're going to throw away anyway. I'll sign off on it, and you could write the whole thing off. So we did everything in miniature sandwiches. So these little hot waitresses have to come by, which steaks in which is in this sandwich, was all for leftovers from the other one. And everything was $7 then, which was a lot of money then. And if you wanted a coke with $7, glass of water was $7. Everything. Everything. What was the significance of $7? This is, I like that number. Lucky number 7. Yeah. And this is 76. Elvis was on his decline. This was not the good-looking stud Elvis, right?

Well, he really was Let me tell you Elvis in his grave is still important to look at No, no, I mean he was you know sort of fat all the one thing like you I know you guys all oil my guys around me. I got kids around me all my life I still blame the Memphis Mafia for his death. They had all the prescription drug. They would give them the drugs. They would go get their prescriptions and gave it to them. I mean, this guy was so screwed up. If you see your best friend going down, what do you do? You stop them, send them down, straighten them out.

He should live the great life this guy. I mean, he died a terrible death. I mean, you know, he died of, right? Let's just use it clean. He died of constipation. Well, all the drugs in the system, he couldn't get it out. What was it? He said hard to see. His body closed down. He had like 40 pounds in a waste. What they did you autopsy. You know what H.E.D. You know what H.E.D. 42 years old. Yeah.

What is your name myself? 42. No, no, crazy is to. I mean, that's young. That's kind of drugs was Elvis doing. Everything. Everything. Pills, cocaine, heroin, what? I don't know that.

I don't think, I don't know if it was really, I think it was all prescription. I don't know. I never saw him do it. I saw him do it. It's smack him. I don't like anybody doing drugs in front of me. And especially me getting involved. They would love to lock me up for something. They've been trying for 70 years.

But Vegas in the 60s, 70s, I mean, it's parting. It's out of control. What was the drug scene like back then? I don't know. I don't know. I never got involved in it. Just drinking. I never got involved.

I drank, yeah, but I never did drugs. I never got involved. I couldn't make a lot of money in drugs. Because in Channaccia, Cory's license, I was traveling the world with millions of dollars I did drugs and I've got involved. I couldn't make a lot of money in drugs. Because I had international core isolations. I was traveling the world with millions of dollars all the time. But they asked me, you know, you could take this out for us, right?

So, Johnny, let me kind of do this with you here. Because your stories, when you and I sat, and I said, I said, Johnny, if 10% of the stories you're telling me is true, you live the ridiculous life. Let me kind of remind the audience who's maybe hasn't seen or heard all the stories. They're here for the first time. Let me kind of share some of the stories you're with them. So, so here's what we got. You, one of them, you, you claim you lost your virginity to Merlin Monroe at 15. 15 and a half, yeah.

15 and a half and you spend three days with her. Well, I went to look after her. And you spent three days with her. Well, I went to look after her. I want to set the stage straight. She was staying at the World of Historia as a gastro-mysticistello who basically took me under his wing at 12 years old. So I was already working for him for 3 and a half years.

He was going deep-sea fish, and people don't realize he loved the fish. With Tony O'Cardo, the boss of the Alpha de Chicago. So he said we have a guest at the hotel this weekend. I knew the suites they kept. And I went up there. But what he didn't realize, because when I got caught on the streets at 4 at 15, a tune officer saw me in front of Lindy's and he said, what are you doing on the street? I said, what are you talking about? Because he had a brown uniform. I said, who else is this guy?

I knew he was in a car. He said, I'm a tune officer. I said, what do you do? He said, I'm catching kids like you. Why aren't you in school? I said, what are you talking about? I'm not going to school. I had like 5,000 in my pocket already. Because I'm running stuff for him. So he's, you aren't you in school? What are you talking about? I'm not going to school that, like, 5,000 in my pocket already,

because I'm running stuff for him. So you've got to go to school. So he gives me a ticket. And I was on the way to Tuchos. It was one of my stops. Everybody was there every day, late afternoon, Joe Demaggio, Jackie Gleason, because he was doing the show from the CBS right there.

And I walk in with the ticket, and Castella says to me, how'd you get a ticket? Walkin' too fast, what's this? And you looked at it, and he says, it's a journal officer, yeah. He's how old are you? I said, 15. Well, you gotta go to school in New York State to you 16.

I said, I don't wanna go to school. So he put me in a wealth of the Academy, a hairdressing school, which was on my route. So he just stopped by signing until six months, and December you'll be 16 if you get a ball. So I go in there, it's 9 o'clock in the morning. 20, 30 gorgeous little girls. So I was on the way to meet him and a lot of the car was already dressed.

So I used to go there a day or two, I mean an hour or two every day. And Marks and Claire and Kenneth came in, biggest hairdressers in New York looking for shampoo boys. And I was a good looking guy when I was dressed, not like these other kids, because I was going to meet him. And they picked me. The fourth head of hair at Lilly Dash's, on 56th and Park, was Malaman Rose. And it was not like we go to a salon here and it was all lined up sinks. Private rooms. Lilly Dash's was a Habadashah, two-story building. Kenneth was the featured headdresser, and Markson clear was a colorist.

And I didn't like that when they said they were partners, they owned the business, they were partners and like we know them today, partners are very open. So long story short, the fourth head of hair I go in and it's Malam and Mel. And she's already in, you know, she's basically into the, and I don't even know how long I was looking at her. And she's, is someone here? I said, excuse me. Yes, I'm sorry.

And they give you a card. Nobody's name's on it. You know, what the shampoo, the rinse, that, you got it. They teach you to test the water and put it on inside of her wrist. She has to okay water. Now, nobody knows a lot of times in the winter, especially, I used to go to New York Paramond.

Obviously, Paramond's still in my world for now, the last 50 years. They used to be open 24 hours a day. I saw some like it hot, maybe 50 times, and I was masturbating up in the balcony at 15. She's singing, I want to make love to you in this huge dress in the film. Now I'm starting to massage her as you want the strong massage. Yeah, that's

it. She has great pictures. But anyway, I'm massage and she's not at the moment. Like, you know, now we know the configuration of a shampoo basin. So my three-piece sets on her shoulders. And as I'm massaging her, I get an erection. Now I don't know why. And you're 15 at the time. Who wouldn't? 15. We're looking at this in a robe. I'm trying to look at my face. And it's freaking Marilyn Monroe. That's what I'm talking about. She's moaning now. I'm visualizing all kinds of things, but now what no I had to tell dry a hand. I'm dry and I hear like I hear was gonna wear I'm thinking how am I gonna walk from here to the station? I got this TV in my

I'm gonna walk out there. Everybody be looking at especially these you know these guys that had their vision on me anyway but classic and then she started requesting me. Always a big tip or two. I kept, and not that I needed my, because I was making good money, because I kept one check she gave me for $50. I can't even tell you what it's worth today. You have a tip today.

Hello. You still have a check signed by Marilyn Monroe. I have the case that she kissed signed by Marilyn Monroe. And I'm writing my second book, which would be out of this Christmas, which is ironic that you said, come on. Because the last time my book came out three years ago is still a bestseller, Hollywood Godfather,

my life and the movie and the mom. And now, nobody realized when the last week and I spent with a Calnevaiva when she went crazy on Bobby Kennedy and we found out all kinds of news we want to know, we knew they were going to kill her. And she was dead five days later. I called from Cal Niva because her and I had a cat together. Merlin Monroe. In her apartment.

But I knew Marilyn, you know, she, some she disappeared for a week, you know, in the way she went. So I had this lady take care of the cat. So I called her. I said, do me a favor. Maule was coming home, because Joe Demaggio, he called Cal Niva and asked Sinatra. He said, what's going on?

She wants me to come and get his mind-your-own business don't come here. And he was in San Francisco. And he didn't come. If he came, she probably still be alive. Well, it should be 100 today, but he was saved the life he did. Should be 100 today. 101 101.

But Johnny follow up question. I mean, we're talking about Marilyn Monroe here. So you're the shampoo boy. Go look in guys, suit it up. You get a teepee in your pants. You're hanging out. How does it transition to your 15 and a half, almost 16 to actually having sex, losing your virginity

to be a lot more? I never, there's two or three women, I never had sex with. I made love to one of the big, Grace Kelly or there's certain people you hold the royal grace Kelly by the way. I don't know if you got that. It was very cool.

Yeah, pull up a picture of Grace Kelly if you don't mind. If you don't mind, walk us through the one half of love to Marlon Thoreau. Castella, let's get over it. Yes, please. Abgestin a hotel. I don't know who's up there.

So he's don't go up before noon. So I go knock on the door. That's an amazing woman. She used to stay at the barberson. Well, you know where I live. She lived on 63 in Lexington. The barberson. Well, you know where I live. She lived on 63rd, and Lexington, the barberson was a hotel just for women. Her family were in Mason business in Philadelphia.

They sent her to the head for finishing school. You're talking about Grace Kelly? Yeah, okay. Har or Dree Hepburn or all of that. Castello, you see, say, go get flowers for the table. I knew where I had to go. He gave me money. I'd go upstairs, get the money, take a cab. I never took the table. I knew where I had to go. He gave me money. I go upstairs, get the money, take a cab.

I never took the cab. I walked, I kept the money. I took the cab back. I picked these girls up. So I got to know them for two or three years while they were in French school. Before she became a princess, it's so crazy this is.

But how big was Maryland at this time? Oh, huge. So you go up to her room like it had. The biggest movie in the world, she made me. They send you up to her hotel room to do her room. I'm not going to door. She opens in a to her like it hot. The biggest movie in the world. So they send you up to her I'll tell her I'm the door. I'm not gonna door she opens in a cherry cloth row. She said Johnny What are you doing here? I said well mr. C told me to look in on you. So come on you by now for sure. Well I was a shampoo boy. Oh, so I was already shampooing after three four months. So I

Commenced this I just ordered breakfast come in I'm had room service. I didn't even know room service One as I you know I was I've never was in the rooms. I was room service. I didn't even know what room service was. I was, you know, I was, I was never within the rooms. I was outside them. She had all these cards. I said, I already had breakfast. I said, I'm just supposed to check on it. You know, I sit down. I said, Mr. Seal, get mad.

Do you need any Johnny sit down? So I sat down. So I had the callister share of pain. I said, I'll laugh, I said, I'm 15. She knew how old you were. I was like, yeah, I said, well, you could tell. I told her I was 15. I'm just out of lapin', I said, I'm 15. She knew how old you were. I was like, yeah, well, you could tell. I told her I was 15. I can't drink.

I thought I'd be 18, I drinkin' New York. She gives me a glass of champagne, so I'm gettin' a buzz. So I'm gonna take a bath. I'll be downstairs, just call downstairs. They all know the kid, because that was my name in the hotel. Just tell them what everyone said, no, no, come with me. She take me by the hand in the bathroom. She turns the water on

And she sits down. She brush out my hair. You always me on from the salon. I did it anyway So she lowers the robe and I'm saying that's a lot. I'm gonna get in trouble yet today I'm gonna get a lot of I'm brushing out of here She's I mean today she's a Zathetic woman I mean today she's a Zatholic woman Not then voluptuous voluptuous Yeah, they come thick and they're up and down up and down wait, especially her So now I'm brushing out of here

She walks over to the tub shoves off the water and she drops her rope. She got nothing on She's getting a tub with me. I said you're gonna get me killed. She's gonna know. So now I couldn't get my clothes off this enough. And I get in the other side, the bottom of it, the back of the tub, we're all. Adam, you need a break or are you good? Yeah, guys, I'm gonna take a second. Adam looks like he's...

What are you talking about? I'm gonna be talking about my row here. What are you talking about? No, but so now what happens is, that was a Saturday afternoon. Adam looks like he's What are you talking about? Marilyn Monroe here. What are we talking about? No, but so now what happens is that was a Saturday afternoon. I had a respect. That was a Saturday afternoon. I left Monday morning. Oh, so that whole weekend you're just asleep. So they did with it. So saying you made love, not sex.

That's right. Who was a third person? He said, Grace Kelly, Marilyn Monroe, number three was who? I can't imagine the other one. Oh, really? Royalty. said Grace Kelly, Marilyn Monroe, number three was who I can't imagine Yeah, really royalty really the third one you can't mention so royalty above Grace Kelly. Yeah Believe it. I heard you had a conversation with Brando and he says I don't believe you Straight up. You called you out. He goes I don't believe that you had He said he says tell me something that nobody would know I tried that to recurrent is yeah, well of us He said, he says, tell me something that nobody would know. That's how that's heard. That's how that's heard.

Well, of us, Sinatra, she, that's what's, she's so naive. That's all she thought she can give you is her body. Can I make you happy? She didn't even think of it that way. And if you were with her, there's just, she has a scar. Just wear her leg, join some cleavage. And unless you were, whether you'd never see that, so that's the, if you're really, where Marilyn,

where's the scar? It's down here. Okay. The queast. Got a leg. How big is the scar? Not that big, but it's not so. Oh no, it's no.

So if you've been with Marilyn, you made love with Marilyn, you're gonna notice this scar. Scar, yeah. big but it's all of oh no it's no so if you've been with Maryland you made love with Maryland you're gonna notice this scar scar yeah can I read these other stories I don't know I am maybe I know you are you know maybe this is a good sauce cast you know maybe it's more sauce cast go ahead yes all right so I mean read these stories all right so you have to know each of these stories one is sounds more crazy than the other one, but let me kind of go through number one loss you virginity at 15 to Merleman wrote people say that's crazy Number two you killed a pedophile at the hospital at 11 number three mob kill JFK a lot of people say that mob killed Merleman Ro you've said that before Pablo Escobar intended to kill you and Your family, but he let you live in exchange for

reenacting a scene from the Godfather. Well, nothing at all. He got out. Why? John Gotti lied to him. John Gotti arranged for me to get down there. What happened? One of his guys came into my club in Vegas, in State Street, Pablo's guys, Lorenzo Morales,

and he broke a crystal bottle and stuck it in his girlfriend's face in my club. That's how I killed that guy. I went to himself defense to that to help her. That's written about that's that that's how it's in the paper. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you apparently you slip me. You see, oh, stitches 81 stitches, because I was agile enough.

You went from my neck and I went this way. I didn't know we had the bottle yet. So it wasn't until two days later, and I got out of the hospital, Laura Mannest, the girl he stabbed, thank God he missed a eye. But I put three right between his forehead that night. Well, in front of a lot of people. You didn't do time for that though. You were self-defense. And I let everybody know.

Because I told me he had these sirens that come for you. I never knew if they were mobbed up who they were. I said, get out. You had no idea who he was. I had no idea who he was. I got you. So later on you find out he's linked to Pablo. Lorenzo Morales, it was known.

They were watching him. So the EA came to see me, Sir Johnny, and when that guy was, it was known. They were watching them. So the EA came to see me, Sir Johnny, and when that guy was, he's known. He was one of the top guys in America for Pablo Escobar. Hello, so now I go, and they put it on entertainment tonight. I think it was the first time the show was on. And you know, a love triangle triangle and there's no love triangle. They're all wrong.

And you know, I got serious phone calls, thought maybe I was getting involved with drugs. I said, no, I didn't even know the guy. So it came to her defense in your club. Right. But he was a Mary Elite though. And what they do, any of one of his brother was a guy who was coming after me, they come to defend, but they'll kill you, pets, your neighbors, everybody leave you last. So I go see

John Gotti who never liked me really anyway, but I know some for some reason that he was dealing with all of them. And he arranged for me to go there. He figured this I'll never come back. You're going there. I said, yeah, I said, at the time I had one daughter, I have two now. And I knew that he had a daughter. And they were going to come my daughter. So I got to straighten this out. You got the story wrong. And he's, you're going to go there. go to it I said yeah to wear a medine. Yeah, that's why what? The only comfort I had was gonna meet him in a church So I met him in a church and I'm walking down the aisle

I thought he was there by himself and an all-to-up in the front as I'm walking the Puse as I pass him a creaking and guys are sitting up. The church was loaded with his guys. I mean, I don't even know why I would think he'd beat him by himself. And then he said, you Johnny Rousseau, I said, yeah, bane hit me. And that was it. He didn't hit me, but somebody from behind. And I woke up in the cell that he created in that prison that he built himself. So I was three floors down with body bags around me. The stench was ridiculous. And then I don't know how many hours later, there's a guy cleaned rest, not in the teags. I'm sitting in a chair shackled nude in a chair. And in his hand,

he had the making of the Godfather. I mean, this movie is so crazy in my life. And he said, why don't you tell me you will call her when the Godfather? That's my favorite movie. He's cleaning them up and bring them up to the house. So, hours later, I'm sitting at his dining room table. He said, I want to have a dinner at the end. And he said, why did you come here?

That's why I did my homework. You have a daughter, my age, my daughter, G.O. And someone's going to kill her. What would you do? And he got up and walked over and hugged me. And he says, there's very few men like you that would come here. He's all straightness out. And thank God I thought I was dead.

He's just do me a favor. I said, do you want me to cut the grass, watch your God. I was kidding now because I He just do me a favor. I said, do you want? You want me to cut the grass? Watch your God. I was kidding now because I don't get out of there. You know, I want to do the scene in the Godfather. I said, what scene? He's the closing scene when Michael comes to see you. That's okay. You want me to write it? I just know and I know the whole scene. As you know, the whole scene is, yeah, he's come up, sit up here, where he was setting, because it was closer to the door. He gets up and now he had henchmen in there around him anyway, and he walks into me and I'm sitting where he was setting. He says,

Carlo, you got to answer for Santini.. Today I straighten out all family business. He didn't know what she, and does he speak perfect English? Is it, is it? This is why I was not saying it was funny. No, but he had the lines right. But he spoke English. Oh, he has kabar.

Oh yeah. And now you're doing a scene from the Godfather with poor, with poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, and you're playing your, you're so hard, this is to believe. I don't know. Do you know, like, do you understand like because like Have interviewed the guys that killed Pablo if if you would have killed Pablo and Pablo he was who to Pablo Lorenzo was who

Lorenzo was his one of his top leaders general For him to Let you go and let you live if you did do that, Johnny, that is, that is got to be it's not yeah take it if I don't have okay that's the proof of it. I mean that because the DA proved it they knew I was there because when I got when I landed in Florida when he let me go yeah they could board at the plane like in a movie and the host said nobody get up somebody has to come on

and they came on the plane. There's Rich Johnny Rousseau raised my hand I still had the bandages on from my neck. They took me off the plane. I'm on a plane going to Washington from Florida on their plane. Nobody's talking to me. So now I got to go to the bathroom. They had me handcuffed. 3500 feet here when we do an handcuffs on such can you take yourself like I got to go to the bathroom. They had me handcuffed. 3500 feet. Yeah, what we do with handcuffs on such could you take yourself like I got to go to the bathroom. So I go to the bathroom like come out. One of the D.A. agents standing near the door says to me, you will call on the Godfather, right? I says, yeah. So he comes out. They must have had a bet. I'm pronounced to be so.

We got a little light on the plane. Now they were not like, they said, what were you doing with Pablo Escabaugh? And they didn't know this. Talking about the government, don't know what the states are doing. I said, I killed this guy. You did what? I said, I killed this guy sat in my club. So they went on, get this information. And I did.

So now I just admitted that I killed this guy. I'm walking out of there. They thought I was the new guy. What do you mean the new guy? Connection for drugs. They saw me with they saw me with God in New York. They watch everything. They see me down there for two days and I'm walking out and then they prove that you know I was in Washington maybe a couple of hours they checked everything out everything was proven they saw me go I should be me go I'm in Washington. Oh yeah I saw I'm going to Vegas.

Well we don't provide transportation I had to get my own flight to go back to where I was going. Well I mean they knew No, but they knew. They have records of it. I mean, there's probably a crazy story. I mean, here's a robbing $86 million in three hours from six banks. Okay, you got the shav Iran out of the country

before his regime fell. Talking about Russian, Vladimir Putin having special until that Putin had exiled Steven Segal to Siberia. That's right. It recorded meeting Saddam Hussein when he was tasked with dropping money off to him and weapons deal and he sat in his throne. You know, the current status of the mob and said that the organizations are rebuilding and adapting to the times, especially in New York and Sicily, right? The Jaja Givore, you guys went on a date,

and then she ended up setting you up with a sex with another woman. Okay, I believe that. That's that, Bruce, you had three sums with who? Liza Manelli, after both took a liking to the Sommevegas showgirl. Oh no. The bad touch of Vegas.

Is what? She was the star of bad touch of Vegas. She was. The girl was. And Liza was the Riviera bad touch of egg she was the girl was yeah and lies with the Riviera hotel I remember that divviedly we went over to start us to tell it was always over in Jamaica level was it more like I was insane no we didn't make a lot we didn't make a lot I got you I wasn't one of the out loud sex you know you would have first

ready for ready for this yeah I still remember ladies name emmelita Escaval That's who emmelita Escaval was the dancer in bad touch of Vegas. She came out of the Sealing in a body suit like a snake coming down and we'll lead a escaval and and and and lies and I was sitting there We both look at it and we said we got to have a But she said and I said it done. We took it up to the bridal suite. We always had the bridal suite. Well Nick Niddy just saw your audience and I was Nick Niddy and I were partners. We were

curious taking money from Vegas to the Vatican. We used to go every other week. We had licenses, we were doing illegal, and the story you talked about, about the Shah, your parents indirectly were in Whywood that? We talked about that one. You were. Hello. We were in, uh, that. Yeah. When we spoke about this in, uh, in, uh, what do you call it, New York.

What do you mean, your parents? Parents, dad, not, not mom, more on the dad side. Papa? Yeah. So Pat, you've interviewed Johnny. Yeah. This is the second time you've spoken multiple times. We've spoken so many times.

The names that are being just flung around here. Elvis, Marilyn Monroe, the frickin' Pope, Pablo Escobar, Liza Manelli here. You know, JFK, and he keep saying if, and just for for clarity for anybody writes anything and anybody that is educated enough, a book publisher that's anything you say in a book, well they exclude it because they don't want to get sued. Like McMullen books at London wrote, published my book through St. Martin's Press. Again,

Hollywood Godfather. All these stories are in that book. So certain people that he even knows, questioned it. They questioned it on air. They wanted to talk to me. I'm not going to question. You understand why people believe, think that this is absolutely insane. I hit the ground at 12 years old, a guy called Frank Estella. Most people go to school until 21, 22 years old. I'm on the streets with this guy flying everywhere. I was with Senator John F. Kennedy for the first two years, since 59 to 60, until he won the nomination to become president.

I mean, how come I got all that? Because Castello wouldn't go. I got the tickets. I went. I went everywhere. But he afforded me. These luxury's in. Most people would never have.

And who was he at the time in the mob at this point? Frank Castello at that time was running the Genevieve's family while Vito was in prison. When he came out, he wanted his family back. Chin, Chin Giganti. Chin Giganti was his first contract to kill him, which I still don't believe that that was in a setup. Because Chin and Frank were in the elevator in his building and shot him in the head, in

an elevator. And he missed and four days later, chained at him, having dinner together because Frank wanted, he didn't want this no more. That's when him and Costello and other people created the syndicate and took over everything. People that I live in Frank Costello's apartment in New York. During prohibition, him and Joe Kennedy made $30 million each in the 30s. The money they amassed during prohibition started buying buildings. The building I live in, they own.

They own two Wall Street. That's a sky-screen. Kennedy and Costello. Yeah. They own the trouble.. Kennedy and Castello. Yeah. They own the tropics. The Irish and the Italian. Hello. Well, the Irish was a prohibition, hello. Mm-hmm.

I mean, by the way, a few things that for the level of skepticism, you know, everybody's got a healthy level of skepticism about everything. Everybody's their job. That's what people are. You do that, I do that. We all, everybody does that naturally. But a few things that opens the door to opportunities, right?

Think about what businesses opens the door to meet crazy people, right? One, if you are the concierge of the best hotel in the world, I'm sorry, you probably have the right connections, right? If you run the hottest club in a city for a span of five years, my, I could friends of mine, that rank club, you have a lot of friends that rank clubs,

you know everybody, who's who? Because they come and don't worry, got you bottles, some more. Well, and then you get, hey, afterwards come to our house, that is very natural. That happens in that, in the gym business, crazy thing about gym business You meet everybody and anybody media the other day I watch the documentary of

Forbes Malcolm Forbes right and a very old documentary I watch you know who Malcolm Forbes was best friends with for Decades his best friend was a Elizabeth Taylor And they used to do a bunch of different things together. He put a party together for 70th birthday party, flew everybody out on a private jet, 700 guests. And at his birthday party, spent $20,000,000 just on private jets to come to the party. Everybody's gift to attend his birthday party was a Rolex watch, custom Rolex watch. He gave 700 guests a customized Rolex watch to his guests. Now who's over there? Kissinger, presidents, billionaires, celebrities.

So there are certain industries that you get. And obviously on the map side, if you are, nobody knows. I mean, it's not like people don't know for a fact, but if you're in connected with Castello, and if you know Castello Castello is with Benzigol, Meyer Lansky and Lucky, I mean, that's like the founders. I don't know if I would say founders, but they would be what they created the, they created the five family, what do you call it, the chair, and Lucky sat on the chair. So you're talking about the guys that brought us.

So if you're with Frank Castello, and you know the story of Frank Castello, Frank Castello was a guy that had politicians, had connections with a lot of different people. He was the best dev guy. He was the guy behind closed doors that knew how to mess everybody, right? That's kind of how I was. So in those types of situations, you're going to meet him. Now, is it going to get you to, oh God, with Marilyn, under a 15 and a half and, you know, go grace, kill and all that. I don't know about that stuff, but I mean, if you did, salutations, the one thing I will tell you though, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, with, with Johnny. First of all, you're, you're way way to handsome naturally.

And then your 79, I asked him, we had one of our girls here and I said, you know, Johnny, I bet used to be, you know, great with the ladies. I still am. You know, the whole thing you were talking about during COVID, you know, how you, oh, yeah, you were taking care of. So looks helps a lot. You're so crazy thing about people that don't know this. Your first movie you ever did. It's not like your fifth movie, tenth movie. It's not like you got a resume of coming from the best school for acting or anything. The first movie you ever did was Godfather one. I know. Can you tell, I mean, you've been in C. Biscuit, you've done a few different things that you've been in. Or after that. Yeah, after that.

But a person doesn't just get casted for potentially the greatest movie of all time. How did that, for people that don't know what's the story behind that? And you know what's so funny about that? Because even that was in question. And there's a new TV series coming out called The Offer by Paramount. It'll be out next month. And they don't even mention how I got the part, which makes no sense.

Because every actor, like you said, already had a resume. I mean, Puccino only did one movie, but it was Panic and Edelpock, and they wanted him. And Copeland was the only one who wanted him. But long story short, there's a new book out, and I can't believe I'm in this book. I'm in 11 books right now, but James Patterson, the being a James Patterson book Called the defense attorney. It's out right now on page 70 and 71 it tells you how I got the point the Godfather

tells you in that book and who gave it to me and who told Bobby Evans Stanley Jaffy and everybody's oh that didn't happen. Again, that book was vetted. This was Barry Schlotnik who was a young attorney for a time defamation league. A fiction or nonfiction. It's a nonfiction book. No, it's a biography. Oh, biography, I got you. I got you. And not written by regular guy. So, yeah.

So, you're saying, so the people that were involved, Kennedy? No. The people who got me the part. Exactly. The people that were involved. Because you're the part. See, I got lured in. They had a, a, an ad in LA Times.

That Times would be a Times Jewish, Dr. B. Jewish, Dr. The book was already its third print. The Godfather was huge. And my ego, I always wanted to be an actor. I really had money, I don't need to be. I'm careful. I just wanted to be in it. So I shot a test, Michael Sonny and Carlo.

Got some people, Betty McCart, who was our Ruddy's private secretary at Paramount, found her who she knew. I had to have a drive on because I didn't want to just deliver this. I do everything in a grand way. At the time I had a 65 Bentley with a Chinese chick show for 65 Bentley. And I got the cover of an hour flex 16 millimeter box that I shot my three scenes on. And special delivery for Al Rudi and she could only deliver them. Betty McCart got the drive on.

So she pulls up, everybody's got the drive. Who's this Chinese check with this car? The car was insane. I had a Coco Bentley, Coco Brown, they didn't have cars. 65 Bentley, let's see that. Well that ain't me, that's what I never seen. But anyway, so this car pulls up, what's this about?

It was my screen test. So they wrote me a nice letter saying, I know you went to extremes and we are not, yeah, I mean, mine was gold plated, everything, grilled, everything, I got pictures of it. But the interesting thing is, so I got it in my head now, I subbed it a minute. I told everybody I'm gonna be in this movie.

So now I find out that Joe Colombo is picking the FBI building in New York, because Joe Colombo, Jr. got arrested. So he's saying, because of the Godfather, everybody thinks we're gangsters, and he created anti-defamation Nicky, he hired this Jewish attorney, Barry Slantick, Brian Chi, still alive, he moved down here and I meet with him and I knew it was about money. I fly in, I said, Joe, we can make a lot of money because I, you know what I said, we,

I said, we can make a lot of money with this movie. So, we can make any money. I said, why don't we have Barry take a meeting at a golf and western building? That's now the Trump Plaza. And sit with them. What you don't like in the book, if they take it out, give them permission to shoot,

because they were picketing everything, and they were going gonna cancel the movie And I wanted this movie. I said and we can make a lot of ways how are we gonna make the money? I said you're if you let them shoot you you're gonna ask with a world premiere in every major city the night before And we'll sell tickets for two hundred three hundred dollars have black tie event for every time We give a little check to them them we keep the rest of the money as you could do this I swear your permission I don't know if I could do it I said but if I go up there can I arrange a meeting you sit and he looks at Barry's what do you think Barry's is a good idea so I went up I walked from Madison to have a new their office up central box out

went up I'm waiting the elevator downstairs. I'm seeing them all coming in, Bobby Evans, Stanley Jaffy, Al Rody, and I go over to my sister, she's got a problem in the yard. We're not in the problem in the yard. I said, I can straight it out. They all looked at each other. You can straight it out. I just left Joe Colombo.

Ready said, you just left too. I said, Joe Colombo. That's the guy's modern, you're right? Yeah, he's weight down here. No, I don't know if he went up to his school, the FBI because they already robbed the equipment on them. I'm sitting there. They sent this girl down. No Naomi cherry, the secretary to Stanley, Jeffy. This is 52 years ago. They send this girl down. I met her once. I still know her name. Naomi Jaffy.

Naomi Cherry. Cherry. Stanley Jaffy was the president. That was his secretary. They come. She comes against me. I go up there, I was sitting there like this. I was standing there.

I said, I just talked to Barry Slotnik and Joe, they'd like to sit down and get to strained out. They said, will he come here? I said, come here. When he come here at the Mara Tena Clock, I said, you tell us when. So now I go down. I said, the meeting's on at 10 o'clock tomorrow. I said, let's do something though. I said, I'm only suggestion, he can't tell the sky, he was a boss. He took over to Colombo family after they killed Povacis, because Povacis was attempting to kill Colombo, I mean, I don't know that. It was a big gang war going on. So, he's the youngest boss ever, Joe. So, we go up there, I said, we can't get butter rest to Chico to come with us a couple of heavies because I want to have that appearance. The attorney, you and I, and so we get up there,

and they iron everything out, and they gave them the script, and Barry's going to read it, walk it up over the weekend. And so they're all shaking hands, and I go, Joe, I don't get up, they all got up. I said, Joe, what about me? He's so yeah, yeah, what about my boy? So right, Hollywood bullshit. Oh, don't worry. We're gonna go apart. That's a wait a minute.

I said, Joe, tell him to sit down. He goes like this. He'll sat down. This is the president of Paramount, Bobby Evans, all of them. They also now. And I said, what do you mean a pop? I said, I arranged this. So this is going to be news to even your audience. And maybe you guys, I said, who's playing Michael? It said James Conn, Michael. Who's playing sunny?

Carmin Cariti, because he's a big guy and a play called the man for Lamontia. I said, who's playing Carlo? They shouldn't get to that yet. I said, Joe, I want to play Carlo. This is in James Paterson's book, page 1771. They write the whole thing. He says, he's playing Carlo. They all look at each other. He says, he's playing Carlo. That. That's all I got to part. Don't forget the audition, the money I spent, and changed my life. Crazy. The story was just done on it. And they said, by the guardian, this thing of ours, why does the Godfather still ring true

50 years on? Right? And this is if you want to go to this page to Adam so there are the endless mob movies of course but more potent than mere weight of numbers is the scale of influence extended by just one dynasty like a remarried parent the godfather has the original offspring two and three then it has more good fellas the sopranos in the course of the first film Corleone's tell uh... patino uh... patino's michael he had hoped his son would become a politician instead

politics became the godfather were the rule we are ruled by men who do uh... impressions of the dawn and kissing the rain crosses anyways this movie went from being a regular thing that came out to now. I mean, it's a, presidents, this is their favorite movie. Politicians, favorite movie.

I go everywhere. Every movie. Celebrities, favorite movie. It's amazing. Like you mentioned Saddam Hussein. Yeah. He had the scene, cute up out here at a big TV.

Well, I went to, especially in like crazy stories, John. It's I went to his, that's the crazy stories, John. It's crazy. John was saying, Godfather with you. No, I didn't watch him. He had the scene up. I don't want you to move you with him.

I went to his, no, he was doing her arms deal, but not in the show, and I broke the money over. That's how I went there. He didn't open his doors. I was there for a reason. Did you spend one or one time with him? No, no, just in hello goodbye And what is there about an hour yet? Did you see what it says about here with the capitalism about the godfather?

Do you read that part? Which part is that? Which part is the apples? Where are you? Okay invisible power thrives elsewhere because Another literal subject of the godfather's capitalism couple of set it was his biggest theme There Omar to remains the watchward how many of us could identify the head of the companies whose products we buy? How much corporate, uh, skull, uh, skull, uh, doggery, uh, doggery remains out of sight. And if the first lesson of the Godfather's trust no more, the second is that each generation ends up living the life of the one before. So it has proved 50 years after Don Carlyon, theia is a husk America itself is coming undone but the bright right of the godfather keeps being

handed down now as then our world is strictly business I know guardian article march for what's the the the lineage of capitalism with the godfather What are they basically trying to say to them right there with the Omar? What would you say to them? Well, I'll tell you right now, I have a company that I'm involved with called MJ Licensing Company. We own an exclusive license for foods, liquor,

first-ridery, fused worldwide. We have seven liquors approved, I don't know how much food. We just renewed for another 17 years in 73 countries. And like Saudi Arabia, I'm going, I mean, I'm selling this stuff 50 years later. That's why I always left. Last scene when Michael says to me, no calling, you're out of the family business now. I own their business I own Jack go olive oil. You know funny that is 50 years ago If you if you go online and put it up right now go to quarterly on fine Italian foods

see what I own Corleone fine Italian foods so online you can buy it. I Corleone fine Italian foods so online you could buy it. I sold gift packages all over the world There it is. Hello. Is that you? Hello? How much how much business does that do? Everybody I'm actually curious. I'm gonna say that in this country, but but but me. Oh, so that's based on where's it? The jenko all of us you jenko all of my own the kid from the movie. That's the kid that when Godfather to when when All of us, you jack a lot of I own the can from the movie. That's the can that when Godfather to when when

Genero went over and gave the old man a Draco, huh? He brought the can and he cut him up because that's the guy to kill this father. I own that and You see Brando. Yeah, I made a deal with the brand which they not meeting the company I don't want to say make it's then the IRS is coming but this company owns the worldwide rights. It's insane It's insane. Now speaking of brand though, you know, you you because you played Carlo right apparently there was a Legitally a story he didn't want you to play Carlo something happened on set. We spoke with them. What happened with that was not even a set want you to play Carlos. Something happened on set, we spoke with them. What happened with that? It was not even a set. I went up the first rehearsal. Oh, that's how crazy my life is. Another thing. In all the places they could have the rehearsal for the Godfather,

all the places. They have it on a hundred and nineteen street in Harlem at Patgeys. That Tony Salaernos joined. I'm there all the time. That's where they found it, they want to have it in the back room. All kinds of tying foods are going to be served. So I went up early. I come in on more dress than a brownie suit, and I'm watching. Who's at the bar? Angel Cheesecake. I mean, guys, you can't believe it. Real guys. Tony

Parkside, Federici. I mean, everybody's there. They said, what are you doing here? I saw me here because I'm there normally at night when the Zig and Egg games because I used to bring midnight loans. They needed 10,000, 8,000. I'd go on bring it to them. The games last till six in the morning. That's what I used to do. Jumping a cab, taking money and doing that, I wasn't no mob guy. I was an errand boy. So they said, what are you doing? I'm here for the movie. My movie. I just the godfather. It's pretty good though. I said, playing collar. Get out of here. You're not an actor. I said, I'm playing. I'm sure if they came out of thisousseau. Marissa was going to start. I said, I told you.

So I go in there. Brando, they had before he brought them into the room. They said, no, I contact the Mullen Brando. Nobody approached them. And then they brought God in. I mean, all these young despeons, Mullen Brando was like, they guy. Was he the biggest actor in the world at that point? Marlon Brando. No, he was, but he's still recognized for his skill. I mean, what he did. So he said to the sky at that time, who was early 70s, yeah? Who would be the biggest guy in early 70s? I don't even

know, but he was declining. I mean, if the waterfront, well, I mean, he, I'm, anyway, long story short, he comes over to me. So I say, I mean, I came over to me. He says, and I'm dressed. I mean, he's still like, hating it. Combat boots. Diane Keaton, my gardener dressed better than her. I mean, this is movie stars.

I mean, today, you see these movie stars. They, they, I like the old guys, where they dress every day. People see me, I can Beverly Hills, I say, where are you going? What do you mean? Why are you all dressed? I said, come out to the plunge. They're in sweats, they look like bombs.

Anyway, Brandon's sister me. He's a big TV actor. I said, no. He's got a big movie coming on. I said, no. He's, well, you're not on Broadway. I know everybody on Broadway. I said, you're right again. I said, this is a quiz show. So he says, who'd

you study with? I said, what are you talking about? Study what? So he calls Cobbler over. He says, Francis, and I never broke down the script. I got to script. I wanted to be in the movie. I did. Look at me movie star. He's questioning who you are. What's your resume? He thought, why am I in his movie? Why am I in his movie? You knew everybody else, why they were there. Yeah. Everybody's sitting in Richie County, John Mollie. These people, the people.

Oh, yeah. James Cahn. James Cahn. Robert DeVole. James Cahn just had Brian Piccolo's story on Tolo. It was the biggest D.B. It. So there's Gianni Russo, no resume, no nothing.

Marlon Brando's questioning. Why are you even there. Right. So now I don't know pro to call the first time I'm even every rehearsal. So I knew this guy's going to try to get me fired. I couldn't let him back to go to the neighborhood. Everybody in the neighborhood, I told him,

I'm over it ready. So I should go over there a minute. You can't dismiss the director, not even in a rehearsal. And he left. So the whole room went dead, silence. They were like, you know, outside the door. I just come over here a minute.

I put my arm on them. They told me not to look at them. Now I got my arm on them. Around Brando. Brando's, and I walked them in the back because I don't want to embarrass them. I walked them in the back where the game's work as I didn't know it was no game.

I'm nose to nose like this microphone. I said, me just tell you something, Mr. Brando. You screwed yourself for me. You hear what I'm telling you? Look at me. You screwed yourself for me. I will suck on your heart. You will bleed out right here.

Don't do this. He stepped back and he said, that was brilliant. You could really act. He did. I was ready. You're a white, you're crazy. He was going to change the room your life and you were actually, I was out. I was out. What would I wouldn't be sitting here right now? Think about it. I wouldn't be having these companies. I mean, I mean, you got me said, man, the money, but you got to realize that think about

it from this standpoint. What is the main scene you remember from American History X? What's the main scene from American History X? There's two scenes. Shubs is facing to the concrete in the scene. Concrete is one of them. Okay, what's the other one? The monologue at the table would have family sit in there ten minutes. Yeah.

Edward Norton just absolutely crushes it, right? Okay. What is the main scene from Gladiator? What's the main thing? Give me the two main scenes from gladiator. What are the two scenes? It's gonna be most people are gonna give the one scene from gladiator the Scene where they're in the middle and they fight so walking Phoenix That's the revenge that's and then he grabs it here And then the other scene is that you're gonna like I've watched the scene a few thousand times

I can't get enough of it is when he comes he turns back, he gets underground and he says show your face, Gladiator. Right. He says he turns his face. He says show your face. Who are you? And he says I'm such and such. Right. You know father of a Maximus. Yeah. Husband of a murdered by and I will get my vengeance in this life. Come on. Next. Right. So that's a scene. Right. So you go to these movies. Get my vengeance in this lifetime of the next, right? So that's a scene, right? So you go to these movies, there are scenes that are, okay, not go to Godfather. Go to Godfather one.

What are the main scenes that you remember? What are the main scenes that people remember from Godfather? This is one. The one you did is one of them, you know, it's not a, so to be there and then act with the lineup of people that were there, maybe Marlon Brando wasn't peaking at the time, but Brando was like, Puccino doesn't move today, it's Puccino, right?

But you know who was the lineup? Who did you do? Who was, who wasn't in the lineup, right? Khan, you got a younger, but even the older guys, Richard Kanti, Stirling Hayden, John Molley, they've got a completely ridiculous line up to be around it. What was, have I asked this before, but again, different audiences, P.B.D. podcast by Tayman is movie comes out. The day before the movie comes out, the world doesn't know who you are.

They know you from different places, but they don't know who you are, right? They don't really know me. Yeah, because they knew me by the kid. In fact, most people realized I'm Johnny Russo. Were you 27, 28 when the movie came? When you shot the movie, you had 27. 27.

Okay, 27, 28. So you haven't yet, you've been in the circles. Maybe you hung out with these guys and you know the relationship. You wouldn't be doing a movie if you didn't have those contacts. There's no way in the world you're gonna be picked up for this guy's movie, couple of the book, all this stuff. Movie comes out.

You're on the big screen. You're sitting there watching it. How did life change a week later, a month later, a year later? That day, that quickly. Because this is a time with no social. So there is no DM or an Instagram Facebook. Everywhere, and I had a different situation

that I talk about now. I didn't then because on June 28th, 1971, that day at nine o'clock and more and I get a phone call from a guy called Tommy Balotti Who was shot down years later with Paul Costellano by John Gotti in front of Spauks He was the underborsair Genevieve family by then but then he was just an Aaron boy And he said to me are you going to the rally the big rally that they had for the Italian defamation league, the year before they had a hundred thousand Italian Americans. Now they had the rally going while we were still shooting. June 28th, pull that up. June 28th, 1961. That rally, you won't believe.

So he says, you're going to the rally I said yeah you know you're not it's really talking about it. And some on the day is I don't care if Joe Columball sitting in your lap you can't go. So I'm saying what I'm screwed. Joe Columball got me to part. It's like called Barry Slotnik. If I didn't call Barry Slotnik and say what I'm saying to you right now, I wouldn't be here. Look at that rally. That's Central Park South, that's Columbus Circle of the End. So I tell Barry, I said, Barry, give my apologies to Joe. I said, I can't go. I have a stomach flu. Thank God, I thought faster than I'm. I can't sit anywhere I have a stomach flu. Think I did go faster. I can't sit anywhere but under the toilet. And I was staying at the park on the hotel because I wanted to stay

there because everybody's waiting outside the door every day. My apartment's two days two doors over. I was sleeping over there. I go out the back door on 50 HD, take the subway downtown. I'm not downtown a couple of minutes and they shoot Joe Colombo. Wow. Then they killed, they shoot the kill. They killed 13 people like that. So now they're doing the investigation of the days, you know, all the shots that they take. There's one chair that has Johnny Russo and his empty. He's got my name on it, it's got my ass on it. So now, organized crime comes looking for me, FBI comes looking for me, and the Colombo family. I don't know why it wasn't there.

And Junior Perseco, who just passed in jail, one of the toughest guys in the world. I mean, he took over that family while Joe stayed in a coma for five years over that shooting, then he died. But I had to go to the world for me on the all of that. I snuck in his snuck out. I just wanted to be there for the bitches. I didn't stay there because as soon as I sat down they were coming out because they wanted to question me and thank God Barry Schlattnik I made that call because he's strained out with the Columbus but now with the organized crime. He said he had nothing to do with that what are you talking about because they were on the you know he's called me they had the stomach flow but if I didn't call Barry they would have whacked me because they figured I knew.

You know, they killed everybody else. The last guy they killed was an assassination. They did in Umberto's Clamhouse when they shot Joe Gallo because Joe Gallo arranged for the shootings to kill Joe Colombo. I mean, this thing was going on for a while. How long did that whole thing last during that time that turned about 18 months man, okay? That's a long time for that too, too, but by the way you're familiar with the how familiar how close are you with Ray Yoda? Ray Leona of course, no, okay, so he's producing a I don't know if you follow in order or not to new American Mafia Docu series called the five families for the history channel. Were you wearing this or no?

No, no. Yes. Very hill. Yeah. Pretty, first of all, I'm a big leotic. I love doing leotic. Oh, I love gray. You're a great actor.

Yeah, great actor on the way. No, great. I don't know him that well, no. But I mean, there's so much going on now. That's why right now, people are approaching me because I want to, that hedge funds. Because you heard a reo's restaurant, right, New York. Well, when they sold their source, they're pieced to their source that they have two restaurants at the time.

They sold a $411 million. So I'm romancing hedge funds right now because when I got a lot bigger and I got 17 more I want to you know click your ponds and move on I got so much stuff going on right now so but it's major business. Are you are you? You've got nowhere. Are you following any of these stories with Russia, Ukraine, you follow on any of that? How could you not? Okay, unfortunately. So what do you think about?

I mean, you said you had a Skype call one time. You said you had a Skype call a few years ago with Putin. And I got to know Putin indirectly because his, the lady who runs the embassy in New York, that Nellos all the time, and and her son and I his son won me to baptize him actually and then some of her son her son got her son. Yeah, and she runs that so that's how I got to know them and they're all the Russian diplomats because the United Nations meet three or four times a year in New York. They were always in Nellos. I live in one block away from Nellos on Madison Avenue. So I was there every day. It was like my lunchroom. And we got to talking about vodka,

and I used to drink my vodka in Nellos, my wine, all that stuff that I produce. And he's a big-godfather fan, Putin-ness. So, she brought a bottle to him, when the plane went back. They gave him a bottle. So, they were talking, he drank Maluga black at that time, I don't know what he drinks now, and we made a bet. So that's what I know about

him. The other thing I know about him is that when Steven Segal was in trouble with Warren's, and Ju's NASA is a very close friend of mine who produced everything with him. They got they had to get you know, it's a guy all out of the country because he had We didn't know he attacked young girls in the South and they were looking for them father's way so Putin took him in Like he did snows. And

they are living in Siberia now. They have no documentation. Who knows now what's going on. But after Putin was done with him, doing this karate, that was it. But they're over there. That's what I know about them. That's all I know about them.

Really. I don't know now as we all knew he was supposed to be the richest man in the world something like 611 billion dollars So he deflated his own currency Yeah, you're talking about 40% of it right dropped in the last eight days and now he's going out there wanting to see 60 trillion Rubels from citizens if sanctions are tightened. I mean, that's a pretty crazy story right there to say Sees 60 trillion Rubels if sanctions are tightened. Who does that pressure go on the most? Is that on so here's the story of in ball February 28th. In response to the measures have taken abroad, state Duama deputy from Communist Party of

the Russian Federation, Nikola Arafi has revealed funds placed by Russian residents will be utilized in the event of a fresh economic collapse. If they block all the funds they are brought, then the government will have no choice but to seize all the deposits of the population. There are about 60 trillion rubles in order to get out of the situation. In terms of golden foreign currency, Russia now possesses around $640 billion in reserves outside of the nation, apart from that 14 trillion rubles, which is $158 billion. And another 470 billion in oligarchs wealth are held in foreign banks.

I mean, this is, you get to this point. It's a level of desperation for you to go out there and say, hey, 60 trillion dollars from everybody. Wow. Being taken back. We think about that. It's becoming increasingly obvious Putin is basically trying to make the USSR great again. You know, he's basically trying to show up the Eastern block, whatever's happening in Ukraine. He's... I mean, talking about taking... But he created it. It's interesting. He's basically trying to show up the Eastern block, whatever's happening in Ukraine. He's, I mean, talking about taking, but he created it. It's interesting.

He's trying to show up, but he's created the self-fulfilling prophecy with, I mean, his XKGB, he, I mean, look, when you hear that the government and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is planning on taking money from the people, trillions of dollars. What does this sound like? I mean, the whole premise... So I'm just saying the same thing Biden is trying to do. But the whole premise of communism is that the government controls the wealth and the

industry and the capital, right? The whole premise of capitalism is that, you know, individuals have the power to do what they want with their money. This is Russian That's what they're doing. This is very scary. Is it not? When you talk about Putin trying to take people's wealth, what would that that's what that philosophy is a custom too? So you say if they tighten sanctions, I have to take the rubles from citizens. So right now they're shutting down major networks. People are walking out and they're just shutting down.

They're like, listen, we're not doing because you can't 15 years of imprisonment. If you tell what's really going on and you call out the government. So the media, imagine living in Russia right now. I don't live in Russia. So I don't know what's going on over there. But I would say the media that's controlled nationalized media, they're defending whatever positions he's got. Because if you don't, you are fired, right? You're not going to be able to be on air in one phone call.

It's going to say you're out. You got 15 years besides. But who are the enemies, right? Like what is it? The Russian TV selling as the enemy? Russian TV is saying all these sanctions, look how much they're hurting you to the point that we have to take that money from you. We're not doing it. They're doing it. They're the reason for it. And you know, as crazy as it sounds, a lot of people believe that.

There's a lot of there, they're betting spoon fed that information. How's the point? That's the point. Otherwise the same thing is going on here in America as well. People are being spoon fed. Here's what I will say to you that we don't know. Okay, here's what we don't know. How many different stories have you and I followed? We're at first, we emotional like, oh, and then he laid on like, oh my God.

Like, okay, give me, let's go through a list of them. 9-11, weapons of mass destruction. You know, you go to Saddam Hussein, you know, okay, you go to BLM and later on you find out the ladies being funded and you buying these houses, you go through Russia. Oh my God, oh, Russia is this and oh, what, this Durham, Dacia, Hillary Clinton, how many?

So one of the hardest things for us to do right now, it's very difficult because as a person that's watching this stuff, you don't really know what's going on behind closed doors. It started off. Don't forget to start off a couple months ago with a Biden saying, Russia is going to attack you and Ukrainian president saying, stop saying this, you're scaring people, they're not going to do it. And it's like, well, they put 175,000 people on your border.

What do you mean they're not going to attack you? Well, no, nothing's going to happen. They put a hospital there. They put a blood bank there mean they're not going to attack you? Well, no, nothing's going to happen. They put a hospital there. They put a blood bank there. They're getting ready to attack you. They're not going to attack us. Then they go try to get the airport eventually. They get the airport back.

And then now, you know, the next concern is, is this going to lead to a nuclear war or not? Then you look at some of the countries, how they're behaving, Russia's foreign minister. You heard what Russia's foreign minister yesterday said? Did you hear, not Russia's China's foreign minister what they said yesterday? China's foreign minister yesterday said, Vladimir Putin is our most important ally.

Vladimir Putin is our most important ally. This is, for a most important strategic partner, let me say the word better. He's our most important strategic partner. Let me say the word better. He's our most important strategic partner. China's foreign minister said that yesterday. Why are they saying that? So look at Iran, look at Venezuela, look at China, look at India, look at US.

Each is playing a role right now. Okay. What role are they playing? So Biden just said right now we're going to stop all the oil coming from Russia, but Biden's camp just had a meeting with Maduro to potentially go get oil from there and now they're having a conversation with Iran. Which one of those three countries loves America? Iran doesn't love America. Oh god. Venezuela doesn't love America. Why are we doing dealings with the enemy? Oh, but we can do it in house, but we don't want to do it in house.

Why? Don't want to do it. Peter Ducey was yesterday pushing Sackie on why aren't we doing it ourselves? And she snapped and she got upset. And it's like, we can do it ourselves. We just opened the pipeline. We got 100 years of reserve right now. And you got folks that are going to the gas station saying I can't pay

$5.35. I can't pay $5.45. Well you won't give it to Trump. That's a lot about. Well so then India, check this out what India just did. Here's what's interesting about India. India avoids condemning Putin to get weapons for China fight. What? This is a Bloomberg story. China fight. What do you mean China fight? So obviously we know Indian, China or not allies, but we know China and Russia are top allies, strategic partners. So these are Bloomberg story. Yeah, quote-unquote, their relationship is rock saw. India plans to avoid condemned Vladimir Putin vision of Ukraine as it needs Russian weapons in its standoff with China and officials and New Delhi are confident the US

want to apply much pressure. Moscow has been one of India's biggest weapons supplier since the Cold War with more than half of India's fighter jets and almost all of its tanks coming from the country. Russia also backed prime minister, Miranda Modi, hardline policies in the disputed regime of Kashmir, which were widely criticized.

Modi's government is also confident in Washington will look the other way on this issue. As India becomes a more important US part than taking on China in the Asia-Pacific region, the people said India is part of so-called Quad group with the US, Japan, and Australia that has sought to counter China's influence, okay? But counter-sha counter so why would Russia

help you? Then that becomes the question. Why would Russia help India knowing if I help you that's going to hurt my relationship with China? It is so complex what's going on right now that everybody that says whatever they say from the media, I think even the sacks of the world, you have to take everything that people are saying and not jump to conclusion anywhere because the real, I don't believe anybody really knows what the hell is going on. I don't think anybody really knows what the hell is going on. Well, it just comes down to the friend of my friend is my enemy and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. But in that in this case, well, there's so many, there's

so many different moving parts. You have, You have India who is basically unwilling to talk smack or say anything bad about Russia because that's where they're getting their weapons. And then China's rock solid relationship with Russia, but India is doing everything they can to combat China's influence. And then you have this quad Australia, Japan, United States, India, right? It's just strange. Australia, it's just there's so many different moving parts and now they're talking about

if the US wants to, because they haven't full on gone, putting sanctions on Russia's energy section. Like John McCain once famously said, Russia is just a gas station masquerading as a country because that's their entire GDP gas oil the energy section Now, you know, you have people like Elon Musk basically saying America needs to start Drill in pump and for oil. We have it well exactly. So there's just it's it's so complicated and then the backdrop of all this the scary part like Dylan said is Is there a nuclear war happening? are there so many different moving parts that the nuclear war is the most scary thing I mean as far as we know they can control if they want to

lower the prices at the pump all they have to do is just open the pipeline again it's here we have it the whole question is why are they not doing it? Because Biden is totally against, he closed the day he won, he closed it down. And you see what Elon Musk had to say about this? What's that? Let me read that story. Extraordinary times demand extraordinary measures. Elon Musk says the US needs to increase oil and gas outputs in setter story. Following the Russian invasion of Ukraine, hate to say it, but we need to increase oil and

gas output immediately. Extraordinary times demand, extraordinary measures says Elon Musk going to tweet on Friday. Obviously, this would negatively affect Tesla, but sustainable energy solutions cannot simply react instantaneously to make up for Russian oil and gas exports. Many countries, including the US, have imposed tough sanctions on Russia after invaded Ukraine, while sanctions targeted banks, oligarchs, and other financial institutions. Countries refrained from sanctioning Russia's pivotal energy sector, Essentially, using that as a bargaining chip, saying, look, we're coming after you, we're coming after your oligarchs, we're coming after your institutions.

Keep fucking around, we're gonna go after your energy section. And now, basically, what did Biden announce today, that the US has suspended buying Russian oil. So, we're meant to be seen. I mean, they're trying to use the energy as leverage to go after Putin as like a look. We haven't gone off the energy yet, but don't make us do that as like a final straw.

But why not just ask? I mean, how about all the innocent people that are being killed in Ukraine? Do you think Putin actually cares about that? Not Putin, how about Biden and the rest of the world? That's what I'm saying. So why are you waiting for a boggling chip and they're killing thousands of people today?

That's too many. I mean, I understand that. And we're America. And most people turn to America for help. By the way, then Blinken makes this comment. I don't know if you saw that. Where he says, NATO countries have green light to send fighter jets to Ukraine. That's fighting words. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's, yeah. That to me is Secretary of State Anthony Blinken has said on Sunday that NATO members

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We're taking we're talking with the Polish friends right now about what we might be able to do to backfill their needs If in fact, they choose to prove these Fighter jets to Ukraine, Oksana, Markov, Ukraine's ambassador to US said she hopes Ukraine will receive fighter jets from Poland as soon as possible. So, you know, you look at the criticism, right? Okay. So, who's the first president that nuked Japan? Who's the only president ever that nuked Japan? Who's the only president ever that nuked a country? Truman?

Truman nuked a... Japan? Hiroshima. And if you follow the story the other day, myself, Tikon Dillon, we're watching a story of somebody that was getting nuked and his grandma came and pulled them down from the tops and go to the basement.

They went into the basement and he's talking about what he felt, what it was like, the radiation, what happened to some friends, what happened to people. Things escalated pretty quickly right after the what they did to Pearl Harbor, you know, reaction, hey, we got to come out and be strong. So is Truman more aggressive than Putin? I don't know. You know, is Truman's now Ukraine hasn't yet started attacking, you know, they're just kind of like, look, we just don't want to fight you, man, just leave us alone, let us be who we are, right? But behind closed doors, years ago, Russia was saying, why are you pushing for NATO to get Ukraine to be in it? Why are you doing that? We don't want that. They're

not an ally to us. Why are you making that happen? So this conversation about the way they've negotiated with him has also been very interesting. And then now, look, here's a crazy thing. You think they're, you say, okay, in thousands of years, millions of years of us being around, whatever there's thousands of years, millions of years of us being around, whatever there's thousands of years of different empires being around, only one person's ever nuked a nation. And his name was Truman, Democratic president. I think it was a Democrat when he nuked Japan.

So what's the likelihood of that happening? Okay, say Putin does it. If you're going to get to that point of doing that, what would get Putin to do that? Would Putin nuke Ukraine? Okay, so let's go with different points. Maybe a fallout to them, but let me ask you this question though. Here's the other question for you. Okay, this is the question that I think we have to answer because you have to sit there

and say, you know how they say innocent until proven guilty. Okay, can Putin do anything right now to change his reputation worldwide? I doubt it. Can he do anything right now to change his position? I mean, yeah, stop. Stop, you know, if he's starting, you're creating,

of course, right now. So, right now, he's a, he's a pariah on the world. Let me, let me ask you a question. Let's just say he does. Let's just say he does. He says, okay, fine, let's negotiate. Let's get this thing. I'm on a stop, right? Let's just say he does It's his reputation tainted forever I don't think so you don't think so no it's his reputation tainted forever right now It's his reputation is the lowest it's probably ever been right now

What do you think it's his reputation tainted forever from from other nations other countries. Do you think it's already that there's nothing he can do to make up for the bad reputation he's got? I don't think he can salvage it at all. You're talking about New King. Like he's developing tactical nuke. He's developing small nuclear weapons. So people are calling him crazy. No, I don't think it could be salvaged. So do you think he's sitting there right now by himself? I don't see him being as a what do you think I? I see him being a here's what I want to believe her. Here's what we're going to be doing. He's been you know, if you seen his documentary, the guys, he's a true believer. Okay. So do you think he's sitting there saying, think and legacy? Or do you think he's sitting there saying, no, you guys on Arizona, Russia's the greatest country in the world and all of you guys have to know who we

are and you guys been disrespecting us for a long time everybody's playing games with us my only allies are Iran I got China on this side and a few other countries that I'm going to have as my allies everybody will screw you guys I could care less about what you guys care about do you think he's a legacy guy do you think he cares what people think about him that's a very important quality by the way He cares about the legacy of Russia perfect So you don't think he cares what people think about him like do you think he cares if he walks in the streets and his own

People say you're a traitor. You're a terrible leader. Do you think that bothers him? No, I There's it depends who meaning I think you how they're, like they're specifically sanctioning these very, very wealthy Russian oligarchs. So like, let's say you're Putin, and I'm your guy, I'm one of your best friends, I'm one of your closest constituent, and I'm like, Vlad, they're taking all my money away. They're sanctioning me, I can't do business.

You're close with me. I feel like he cares what these people have to say. The people that are close with him, the people in the energy section. You think he cares? He's talking about, I'm gonna take $60 trillion apart of that as all of that. That's that.

Well, that's compensation, right? Meaning, I think there is some level of ego. It's very important to say, very important for him to care about something. I think he has some cares for certain people. Oh, you're all what the world cares about him? Clearly he doesn't care. Well, let's take the fact that Vladimir thought

he would be in and done with Ukraine in less than a week. And he's not, right? He went in way over the estimated. He underestimated Ukraine. How pissed off is he gonna be with his top tier people? And do you think he really cares what they have to think after this past nine days? You know, you know certain people that you've been around a lot of the mob folks. There's one thing they don't like is what?

Public humiliation. You don't humiliate me. You got up before I got up. When we're going and leaving dinner, you don't get up before I get up. I dictate when we're leaving certain things right. Hey, what are you doing? What are you doing? Grab a seat? We're not done yet. This conversation like think about that right? Do you think Putin feels publicly humiliated right now? I Think so why why you crained Like you're saying it defended themselves. I don't't think he ever thought this would be going on yet. I don't think he cares that you, Craig, is

publicly humiliating him. I think he cares what other people got involved and they could have stayed out of it. That's what he's thinking. Not whether it's the right thing to do or not. It's a different conversation. It's what he's thinking. You right now, the world has to sit there and try to figure out what this man is thinking and make your next moves very carefully. Because if he goes to the point of no return, listen, it's going to be an ugly situation. Okay, so let's let's play that. Let's play. Let's play him not nukin and just saying, you know what? Let's talk about it. Let's play that real quick. Okay, so go there. In a week or two weeks, they decide to make it work. Is he done? Is Zlan, what's the other guy that's?

Zalinsky, not Zalinsky, you don't know. He's your boyfriend. He's gonna ask the guy that the guy that is was going up against him. Say, is a new person poisoned? Yeah, is a new person to come and win the election? He set it up in a way that he's going to be in power for a long time. But is like what happened with Hitler eventually? At what point did Hitler start losing when his own people turn against him?

Has his people started turning against him? I think they will. If this continues. Okay, so you think they will if this continues. The rule has been cut in half. The economies and shambles. They're going after the energy section. People are not immune to this. They have to be said. They have to be questioning.

Yeah. What is my guy doing? I mean, look at the poll results that he's the sexiest man in Russia. The he's got 90% approval ratings. You know that's not true. But the other thing I think we're leaving out of the equation. We just came out of two to three-year

epidemic and pandemic that crushed people again. We didn't just have that in the United States. That was worldwide some people have been economically hurt but now over almost 36 months. Yeah, so they asked the question and they said, you know, the whole way, hey, we're going to put sanctions on you. It's not going to bother you. They're laughing at it.

What are you talking about? Okay. Yeah, do you know what it is to be, have a communist nation for the longest time? People are not rich. People are poor. This country is used to be important, you know, all this. So, well, there's a group, though. I think there's a group of them that I know, I actually know some this so well, there's a group though. I think there's a group of That I know I actually know some of these gentlemen met him in New York that arm billionaires because of Putin

I think those are the guys are gonna say what are we doing here? Now you're destroying me personally. I'm your friend Well the whole thing with with Putin is that he shows his power by The whole thing with Putin is that he shows his power by basically attacking or invading certain countries. This is how they say the best way to drum up support or approval ratings is a war. This has been true in American history. If you look at since 2000, it started with what's the Muslim territory in Russia? Chechnya.

He went in and cured Chechnya of the Muslim terrorist, right? So prove awaiting ratings went up. Started slipping again. What do you start? He invaded Kremlin in 2014 when Obama was president. Boom, so that happened. Prove a rating went up. Now, prove ratings been get down COVID economy, GDP.

They're no longer top 10, whatever it is. All right, boom, Ukraine. This time around, the world is watching. This time around it, I think it has backfired. Who? I think it backfired on. I think he's a pariah on the world stage right now and he's never had that label.

He's always been labeled a tough guy, an autocrat, you know? But right now, he's now officially a bad actor. Yeah, but, but, but okay, so fine, like no one, no one's disagreeing with you there. Does the strategy of strong arm and that guy work? Does the strategy of strong arm and him work today? Well, what are you going to do? Just say, nothing. Hey, good job.

Like, what are, what are, what are, what are alternatives? I'm not saying other than sanctioning it. I think, I think, also, I think it hurts him, is this finances? Yeah, no, I, I, so okay, with sanctions with, China, what, what, what did it do? There's still a lot of dissensions are still on China. How many of those sanctions have been removed? How many sanctions have been removed? China still got the sanctions.

Yeah, Biden kept them in place. Okay, so what's, what's happened to China's economy? You, you see them struggling? Well, apparently they only, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they in place. Okay, so what's what's happened to China's economy? You see them struggling That way all their lives they say that's what they so I'm saying to you I can't and and what I'm trying to say is is is Russia more like us or is Russia more like China? China, okay, so they're used to this So all I'm saying is like you know know, when the Azerbaijan and Armenia was going through their mess, do you remember that whole thing very early? You're a girl. Exactly. We're talking about it. Putin pulled both of them together to figure

out a way to stop this. Okay. Turkey had Azerbaijan's back. Armenia had a little bit of support from Putin and eventually they're like, look, we're a small country. We cannot handle going against Azerbaijan. Is somebody got to try to figure these two guys? Because let's say you don't bring those two guys in the same room together. Say you don't, who's affected by it? A lot of people, listen, a person's irresponsible decisions in your community who doesn't check the stove and that thing explodes

and it catches on fire and your community's got a bunch of trees, You're affected by it It's not like it's just it's just that house. No, no, no Those trees are burning your house now. That's your cost $200,000 that you got to fix now you got to move out go stay at a hotel now those fumes are coming into your house so somebody has to figure out a way to Get these guys in the same room and I know it's like Patrick, if it was so easy, somebody else would do it. All I'm saying is if you don't,

the alternative sucks is all I'm saying. Okay, and from my experiences of, you know, dealing with whatever kind of conflicts you're dealing with, nothing, get two people in the room who hate each other. Okay, and we're not leaving until we figure this thing out. What do we want to do? Okay. Well, they say you don't make friends with your friends, you make friends with your enemies, right?

I mean, like that, you make peace with your enemies. Somebody's got to bring those two together. It is that important because if this lingers, it affects the world. Look, okay, do you think Joe Biden cares about the American people? Yes. Okay, do you think he cares about the American people? Do you think he likes about the American people?

Do you think he likes the fact that a low income and middle income family's rent I can't afford to pay a gas and they're paying a price for it? I think that is definitely a concern. Okay, do you think he cares about... Why don't you open the pipeline? Do you think he cares about that boy politically as his career?

Do you think he also cares that as a human being? Yeah, I do. I say yes. So let's lean towards that. Say he does, right? Okay, fine. As bad as it is right now, I say yes, so let's lean towards that say he does right okay fine As bad as it is right now, you know the American people oh gas prices when I did a video a year ago gas price They're gonna go to 10 bucks you've lost your mind you're a fear monger

Okay, no problem. You don't think gas prices can go to 10 to 20 bucks You have lost your mind if you don't think it's gonna go there. Okay? So this is going to affect, that's what I'm saying. Like there's a role, a US and other countries can play to say, hey, listen, saying to help everybody, okay? We gotta kinda get in front of this. Because the scenario we just processed together,

and we'll wrap up in eight minutes. The scenario we just processed together was, if he does nothing, okay, doesn't look. We played that scenario. Now let's play the Truman scenario. What's the Truman scenario? You don't think Putin's sitting there saying, wait a minute. You guys are talking about I-Nook, a Democratic president from US who apparently Democrats

don't like to go to war. Why is it that every time a Democrat is a president, there's a war going on? You know what? You nuked first. You're not this? No, don't make me look bad. How come you think you're so good?

You started a nuclear bomb as well. You yourself killed a bunch of innocent people. You make me look bad. The world looks at you. That's what he's thinking. Whether it's true or not, it's irrelevant. That's what he's thinking. Let's play the game. And this is not a game. Let's say this scenario thinking, whether it's drawer or not it's irrelevant. That's what he's thinking. Let's play the game.

And this is not a game. Let's say this scenario takes place. It's, say he does use one of his nuclear bombs. Go there. Say it happened. You have to think about this. Say he does. What happens?

Where does he use it? Kiev. Okay. Why would he nuke Kiev? It's not, this is not a Y question. If he's saying you get him my way, just so you know I have this thing called a nuclear weapons,

he's not saying that to say, hey, if you get him my way, I have this thing because it's a cool toy I got. No, I'm gonna wipe your ass out. Yeah, but that toy can really affect Poland also. I mean, you have a two-man. So when we bombed Hiroshima, we had no effect, there was no residual to the United States

when Truman dropped the bomb over there, stopped the war. But over there, Europe was so into wound, you're affecting different countries, neighboring. Hello. there, Europe is so into wound, you're affecting different countries. neighboring. Okay. Okay. Cool. So that's a good point. I mean, the answer is NATO. I mean, it's okay. That's like the beautiful part of the United States is who are neighbors? Canada, Mexico. Yeah. Like we got oceans on each side. We're going to be okay. Right. That's why you did it. But who who who who Putin needs be, I mean, Putin's major concern is NATO.

And he doesn't want NATO expanding. And he doesn't want all these countries that are considering joining NATO, Ukraine, Finland, some of these other countries in that region. These guys are all nuke ready for Russia. But let's go back to one thing that you said. You don't think so? You don't think so? What? What? The United States has nukes in all those countries. I get that. I'm about to give you a step. Russia. Let's go back to one thing that you said. You don't think so. You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so? You don't think so?

You don't think so? You don't think so? You don no, no, but that's not the question. You're right. That solves the American problem. I'm worried about America first. Yeah. Sorry. No, no, everybody is. Well, that's the number one thought of. We're all thinking America first. All I'm saying is if there is a problem in somebody else that it effects, it affects because a nuclear bomb in Ukraine, what happens next? Who reacts? How ugly can it get? You have to play those cards if he ends up going there.

What happens? But if he does that, I mean, the only language that this guy speaks is war and toughness. The only, like, he's, you're not gonna peacefully negotiate with this guy speaks is war and toughness. The only, like, he's, you're not gonna peacefully negotiate with this guy. The only thing, like how Trump said when Kim Jong-un, oh, you think you're tough?

I got a lot of, what's the famous line? Oh, you think my mom's actually worth, okay? Putin understands, listen, if I do this, there's ramifications and that's the only language he speaks. And then as far as what the American people are concerned with, what's a bigger issue for the lineage and the legacy of America, higher gas prices for six months or tyranny taking over Europe?

In my opinion, that is way more important than paying a dollar more in gas. That's the bigger issue. Whether gas is a little more expensive for the next six months. But it don't have to be. That's the problem.. Whether gas is a little more expensive for the next six months. But it don't have to be. That's the problem I have with it all. I'm, you know, like I, we all know I'm a lot older

than you guys. I've seen so many things go on through my life. We have a solution for the people who just came out of a pandemic. They can't afford $5, $6 a They got to go to work. I'm seeing it reacting and we can handle it. Why aren't we handling that for our own people now? Let the rest of the world, but what Putin is going to do, we don't control. We can't control it. And we're not really going to be a result of it if he nukes that whole area. I mean, we're going to lose certain

supplies or whatever, but it's nothing that we cannot produce ourselves. We're self-sustaining. So why don't we just go back to our own business for right now and take care of the little guy who's the population in the United States. They need to go to work, needs to buy gas at maybe $250 $3.00. Where is it going to go? Like you're saying Patrick, it can go to $10.00, but how does that help us? Oh, that's that's going to be that's going to be catastrophic if that hits here and and they can't like I don't understand why they're not doing it because

if gas prices right now being the highest like every time you read one of these things How do you think about gas prices? I how do you think gas prices are high? This is not left-right middle doesn't help no matter who the president is when gas price are right this is gonna destroy midterms I think I think I would not be surprised if they fixed this in an x 30 60 90 days I totally agree did you see did you see what a Bernie tweeted out here, but but here's what the strategy is. And it's, it's, people are not going to fall for this. Here's what Bernie tweeted today, okay?

Bernie tweeted today, oil company revenue since last year. Exxon up, 57%. Chevron up, 84%. Shell is up, 49%. BP is up, 45%. We cannot allow big oil companies to continue to take advantage to war in Ukraine and inflation to make huge profits by jacking of gas prices we need a windfall profit tax every time You come up with certain policies your handling of Afghanistan then gas prices go up. Oh, it's the capitalist fault. No

Gas prices were down yet. He's not making the fact that Yeah, he's not making the fact that Yes, prices got What are you talking about? So these guys made a ton of money in Ona in 19 without it being gas price We're two bucks Right, that's what you're talking about They got so humbled in it

So all I'm saying is they point It's like I got to blame this guy I got to blame that guy I got to blame this guy I got to put a few Changes like oh you listen You're having a hard time Don't worry about it

Just go buy a electric car It's gonna be okay. Go buy an electric card. Like every one of you thousand dollars. Like everyone could just go do that. What the hell are you talking about? Yeah. So I agree with that. All I'm saying is that, you know, I think, I think the approach, look, we know Putin's not afraid of Biden. We know she is not afraid of Biden. We know that for a fact. We know the Taliban is not afraid of Biden. No, they took 80 billion dollars. I've said, we know nobody fears the current president. They don't, they just don't fear the current president.

They're going and doing whatever they're doing and taking whatever they want, right? That's just what they're doing. China's looking at Russia as a case study. That's all they're doing. China's looking at saying, okay, so they did this, so they did this, so they did. So I said, of course, there as a case study. That's all they're doing. China is looking at saying, okay, so they did this, so they did this, so they did so I said. I said for Taiwan.

Of course, there's a case study. So is it that they're looking at the president? They don't fear him or they, like at the end of the day, they need to fear the United States military. No, you're in the general. First of all, and our truth. That's not how it works though. That's not how it works.

See, first of all, you have to realize, like, you know, you felt Bush would come out and be strong or Reagan would come out and be strong. You felt JFK would come out and be strong. You felt Trump would come out and be strong and, you know, say his thoughts about some of these guys. I don't think they're that worried. I think they're looking at an opportunity right now. They're just trying to take advantage of people. They all have deals with them already. All I hope is, all I hope is, that, you know, the one good thing with him is the benefit is the fact that he's chill. I hope that chill is used in a proper way to kind of,

you know, because at least a Trump may publicly humiliate to produce a reaction. I hope something like that doesn't happen here because I don't think public humiliation. I think you got to, you got to take a different approach. I'll pit Putin. I think, no, I think Biden is not somebody that's going to rub your ego. He's not going to be like, he's not, you're in the room right now with a bunch of different egos. Biden's ego is not going to's gonna rub your ego. He's not gonna be like, you're in the room right now with a bunch of different egos. Biden's ego's not gonna, or I'll put your ego.

You know what I'm saying? He's not gonna be like, I don't know. I don't think he has, you know, look, Bernie Sanders was supposed to win the primaries. Everybody was ahead of him. He was fifth place, last minute booted, chitch, everybody drops at Warren, Amy Amy everybody drops out to make this guy. This guy was not the one that had the biggest ego to be a president.

He was selected by the Democratic Party to say he's the best one that can go win it because he was a former VP. This is not a president guy. This is a two three four five guy. Not enough for a guy here. So all I'm saying is there could be a benefit in him not having a big ego. So all I'm saying, there could be a benefit in him

and not having a big ego because he may not offend Putin to do something. I don't know. I'm maybe wrong. Well, the terminology that they often use, and they say that this is actually a great quality for presidents is measured. And that's what a lot of people would say about Trump, that his

flaws, that he was not measured. It was all reactionary. It was all emotional. But but but Trump, here's the difference with Trump. Here's the difference with Trump. With Trump, you don't even try. Because you don't want to know. I don't know if that makes sense or not. You don't even try Taliban Afghanistan. Because you do not want to know. Rasam Soleimani. Yeah. That guy was supposed to be the next leader. And what did Iran do? Nothing.

Yeah. Nothing. No, no, don't drink his regime. They did nothing. Right. So the benefit of having a guy like that is people won't even test you. The, but the benefit that if they do, he's going to say some stuff that's going to upset the enemy, but you're just not gonna test me Gonna say let me be waiting for the next part anyways, we are up gang. Johnny. Thank you so much for coming out

I really enjoy every time we're talking to your stories. Thank you for the privilege Just so you know I have a feeling tonight. I know what Adam's gonna fantasize about tonight when he goes to sleep I think I'm Marilyn Monroe I think we're talking about you gonna be thinking about it 15 and a half year old The stories you have, like Pat says, if 10% of them are true, you've lived the most ridiculous life. And something tells me they're all true. I got like you in the mob,

affiliated with the mob, hospitality, nightlife, and Hollywood, and I had no other choice. I was the people I associated myself with. They gave me the privileges. Lys, I wouldn't have done 10% of this. Well, they say that your network is your net worth, and clearly you get the right net worth. Well, here's what we got.

John, thank you for coming out folks tomorrow. It's gonna be a very extensive podcast, because tomorrow we are bringing the former KGB member, Jack Barski, to talk about what's going on with Ukraine. And Russia, I highly suggest you not miss tomorrow's. You hear me, and I wouldn't go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. He's going to be live right here with us the next day.

I believe Liz Wheeler is going to be here. And I can't tell you who's going to be here on Friday. I can't even tell you what time the podcast is going to be on Friday. And you'll know why once it happens, because a request has been made, but you kind of don't want to miss Friday's podcast. Is that fair?

That's very true. You kind of don't want to miss Friday's podcast. The world's going to know who it is when we do it on Friday. Having said that, take care everybody. We'll see you guys tomorrow, same time, nine o'clock with Jack Barzky. Bye bye, bye, bye, bye. Johnny.