PBD Podcast - The Hodgetwins | PBD Podcast | Ep. 186

Episode Date: September 20, 2022

In this funny episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by The Hodgetwins and Adam Sosnick.  TOPICS 0:00 - Start  4:45 - How the Hodgetwins got into Youtube  14:43 - The Hodgetwins valu...es and principles  27:05 - The Hodgetwins on politics  39:48 - Why the Hodgetwins became conservatives  48:16 - The Hodgetwins on Donald Trump  1:00:13 - The Hodgetwins opinion on Donald Trump being indicted  1:08:40 - Why Nancy Pelosi is more presidential than Joe Biden  1:20:39 - Hillary Clinton’s message about Martha’s vineyard  1:26:31 - The beef between Gavin Newsom and Ron Desantis  1:37:02 - Kim Kardashian supporting Hillary Clinton See The Hodgtwins on tour: https://bit.ly/3SkkGl3 Subscribe to The Hodgetwins YouTube Channel: https://bit.ly/3SiBtVg Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We have a special podcast today. We have the Hodge twins and they tell me when they walked in I looked at their beard I mean, it's very hard to tell them apart. They say the ladies can tell them apart So if you're watching this let us know who's Keith who's Kevin who's sitting on the left or right and we'll be watching through the commentary to see if you have any idea of who's who if You don't know who they are their social media phenomena. They've been for a long time, they have a YouTube channel with a 2.5 million subscribers, former Marines, their professional, I mean, how should I put this in a diplomatic way? Professional shit talk. I was just going to go there. You do. Intertaining, but here's the other part. There's a difference between shit talk and, but
Starting point is 00:00:40 sometimes, talking trash to the point where you make the audience think and say that kind of makes sense you know so there's a different aspect to it where it's just purely entertainment purposes the other aspect is also uh wanting to get some people to think interesting story about these guys obviously their twins but they've both been married for 15 years I want to say one of you has twenty twenty years twenty two years and one of you has four kids, one of you has three, unless if it's changed. Right, just three for me.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Not to my knowledge. I think I got only four kids. You might have a couple out there. Adam's kind of a guy. Anyways, okay, so look, we got a lot of things to cover. Obviously we'll get into it here in a minute, but let me kind of preface what topics we're gonna cover after we learn more about them at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:01:31 There's stuff that happened in Iran, I wanna talk about something happen with ladies in Iran who are cutting their hairs as a form of protesting against a hijab and the morality police, you should have seen what happened just a couple days going to talk about that. Armenia, what happened with Armenia against Azerbaijan ago, I want to talk about that. Armenia, what happened with Armenia against Azerbaijan, that's been a pretty interesting
Starting point is 00:01:49 events taking place there. We're Nancy Pelosi, we want to pay to visit to Armenia. It's not a good situation. Azerbaijan is purely bullion and a member of the parliament, imagine like a head of state getting up and reminding the Armenian people, not play this video for you. And you hear what this man said, it going to be very very disturbing. We had a massive crisis folks take place In Martha's vineyard. I mean it's tragic events that these folks there's two million people crossing a southern border But God forbid a 50 or sent to Martha's vineyard. They have to call
Starting point is 00:02:21 They may would have to call Tyler that to call who they call the army they call national guard and twenty five national guards fifty immigrants they call the national guard for fifty immigrants i mean obviously i'm sure you guys got something to say about that news some the other they called out the santa's for for debate and i like uh... the santa's rebuttal back to will we'll get some commentary on that. And then Kardashian had a meeting, a sit down with 2021 Forbes woman at the year Hillary
Starting point is 00:02:52 Clinton. I don't know if you guys are familiar with her. They had a sit down with her and Kardashian. They had a legal quiz going back and forth, which was interesting. And then we got a few other stories that we'll cover as well. But aside from that, my sister bought this magazine yesterday. We'll just do a little bit of trivia and have fun with this Okay, she bought this magazine yesterday She comes at a house we're playing Domino Dylan again is back at it at eight years old just kicking everyone's
Starting point is 00:03:14 But although Polite won yesterday and it shows her estate and I want to ask you guys this try to play along without Googling this and messing it up But Adam I'm gonna ask you and but Adam, I'm gonna ask you, and Kevin Keith, I'm gonna ask you guys as well here in a minute, on, she had a big stamp collection, okay, on how much you think that was worth, she had a big car collection, she had real estate portfolio on how big it was,
Starting point is 00:03:36 her horse racing value, her royal collection of art, what that's worth, but here's the one I really got a question I wanna ask you guys is the crown jewels. She wears this crown jewels, okay, this is what it looks like, okay, I don't know if you've seen this or not. Adam, that's what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I wanna know what you think that alone is worth. In a minute, we'll go through it, but at this point, Keith Kevin, for folks who don't know your background, first of all, thanks for coming out, take it right off the bat, just tell us a little bit about your story, how it came about to you guys becoming, you know, YouTube phenomenons today
Starting point is 00:04:12 where everyone's wanting to learn more about you guys. Well then, it started back in 2012. Now, 2010, 2010. You know, it was actually, we just, we wanted to be CPA's accountants. Yeah. But we had this job where be CPAs accountants. Yeah. But we had this job where we was insurance adjusters. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:28 You mean serious right now, you're joking. Yeah, I'm serious. We work for AAA or something. California. Yeah. Who the hell wants to get into insurance by the way? I didn't see that job. He's a tax collector.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Right. Imagine these two showing up, but tax is a dude. Whatever you want. You're going to pay it. Yeah. Collector imagine these two showing up a job taxes or do Whatever you want you gonna pay it all yeah, we was claim suggested we had a we had no auto accidents And I came across YouTube YouTube was in this infancy at the time And I went to tell us a look these people on YouTube. Let's start doing videos. We can uh, we can be comedians Literally, yeah, he came to my cubicle which his cubicle is right on cross the mind you walks around and tells me I said What are you talking about though? It's gonna be certified public accounts? Yeah now? Let me ask you while you're doing that
Starting point is 00:05:12 Did you did a video prompt you going to him or no like did you see something I say dude? We can do better than these guys Yeah, I don't know I guess we saw videos so look at all these views these people get these people are wack This is right, you know, yeah, so We started doing the videos, but we're having a hard time finding a time to do it because we have four time jobs It's a trip away so we came up with the great idea on a lunch break at work We can go into the second floor There was a conference room with no sign of grenade. They was just the empty floor. It was vacant So we would do our videos in that.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Somehow another HR found out that we're doing videos in there. And you forget how they found out they was investigating this one guy, because he was passed up for promotion. So we did some videos with him. So when he went to his YouTube channel and he saw him talking trash about the company, there's been key things several of his videos. So what happened was the HR at the time I remember the company. There's me and Keith in several of his videos. So what happened with the HR, at the time I memamed the economy at Taint,
Starting point is 00:06:11 we was totally overstepped. This was Tant. This was around 2011 or so. So we were totally overstepped. So I remember me and Keith was coming back from lunch and we saw HR right? I was like whenever you see HR like oh shit somebody's gonna get fine. Yeah. Yeah. It was this ball guy ball white guy Right, he was here. He reminiscing about we got going on
Starting point is 00:06:35 It's a rubber to rock and he was obviously not doesn't not didn't matters. He was obviously gay matters. He was obviously gay. He was a gay guy. We got the same situation. We're coming back from lunch and tell us like, look, eight Charles here, they're going to fire somebody. And right before they walked in the building, they stopped and looked at us. And then they walked by, I was like, what the fuck are they looking at us like that? Sh**t you not. I sit down, I'm clucked back in. Excuse me, Keith. We have to see the conference room. Let me let me let me tell this you get out of order. We said you So so we sit down right I met my cubicle and then the I'm in with the managers out of office assistant manager came up to a cabin arm
Starting point is 00:07:21 We talked you for a moment. I was like, oh, okay, I totally forgot about it, you're all right. So I'm sitting down, right? And I was like, oh shit, there's the ball white gay guy. So we sit down, he's got a female with him and he start asking me questions, like loaded questions, like questions they already know the answer to. And I was like, uh, this, is this about the YouTube videos
Starting point is 00:07:42 I'm doing? I said, yeah, I do videos, but I don't say where I'm at There's no sign. It's nobody knows where I'm at I don't even tell people where I work at was the promise of where you use some file language I slate y'all calling me over some file language of a video that nobody knows where I'm at and it's during my lunch break Well, I'm off the clock. Mm-hmm. So I lost it Literally, yeah, but co-cut job was so, you would come in in the mornings on Monday, your queue was full of claims.
Starting point is 00:08:10 You look, I'm on the phone all day constantly. You have no time to take a break. And I was like, piss, I'm like, I'll come in here every day, I bust my ass. I don't make any problems or anything. And you're talking to me about some YouTube videos. Some file language that nobody heard. I mean, so it was put me on a minute now that any one of them go and take off or not yet you guys haven't taken off yet. Okay, got it. So it's not like one guy two million viewers and they're like,
Starting point is 00:08:35 hey, right? It was like 1500 views, man. It was got him. Yeah, yeah. So we're getting like verbal altercation, they call security and all that, they escort me out. Before they escort me out, I say, hey, it's with my twin brother. I know if you're talking to me, you got to talk to my twin brother. I said, where's Keith? I went to his cube. He's not there. They already grabbed us.
Starting point is 00:08:56 So I'm walking all over the floor. Hey, what's my fucking brother? Right? So I was like, go in the empty room. Hey, hey, keep over here. Hey Larry, keep going here. It did. It's like, yeah, but I don't know nothing.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So I find keepies in the conference room sitting down with HR. It was funny when I was in that talking, it was asking all these loaded questions. So it's like, I did all of a sudden, the door busts open. There you are. Dease motherfuckers fit in the pie. When you were hiding out, where were you at?
Starting point is 00:09:25 I was in another conference room on the side of the building. Been interrogated or just hanging out by the game. We got it with the HR. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy's all making moves. So I linked the Kevin and did, the dead lost total control of the situation. And they called security.
Starting point is 00:09:43 And we went back to our desk like pack up our things. And there was a lot of people, people were actually crying. Because we had been there for like, like three, four years, we like, really friendly guys with everybody knew it. Oh, you've been working there for a while. Oh, yeah, okay, I got to.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah. So I met my, um, couple of secretaries that I always used to talk to them. They were upset, they were crying. And it was just, and it was just a whole but six weeks because at the time when I got fired, my wife was eight and a half months pregnant. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Right? And I was like, so who was worried about the insurance thing and what not? And my wife was like, get a real job. YouTube's not a job, so. Not at the time, for sure. Yeah, not at the time, but looking back on that was such a blessing for that to happen to us. Because that gave us literally a year of unemployment to see if we can make YouTube work.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And it eventually did. And we wasn't making money the whole time. Like the money we was earning, like 50 cents, 60 cents. Oh, key for me, $2 is mine. Yeah. Way to go. Then, you know, we're on unemployment for, I think, 10, 11 months. And right before we got all phone unemployment, we made partner.
Starting point is 00:10:52 And we started earning a little money and we kept doing it, kept doing it. But by the time unemployment ran out, you know, we was able to, we wasn't making the same amount of weird earning from AAA, but we was earning just enough to survive. Yeah, and we always earning just enough to survive. And we always want to be like, self-employed. I never want to work for anybody else again. And I thought this was a great opportunity to take advantage of that. And I had never would have thought it would have took the route that it did.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I had no idea I'd be here, and talking to like famous people like you. Famous people. Famous rip people like you. If I was in a bank vault. I'm in a bank vault. People don't chase me. They're taking from them. They're with Nate Hill.
Starting point is 00:11:29 They're with Nate Hill, my son. That's right. I never thought I'd make it just like that. Oh, yeah. If I wasn't high school with you guys, like if I'm in like 10th grade, who are you guys in high school? I was the shyest, weirdest kid you ever get out of here. We were loners.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yeah. So this is in Virginia. This, yeah, you guys are loners in high school. Yeah, it's just us. You're not class clowns You're not athletes. You're not like we were to act up, but we was always together We're the others best friends, but um, it was like we was just so shy And I was like weird shy. Yeah, socially. I I remember, I remember. Yeah, socially awkward. I remember, this is how weird we were as his kids. After basketball game, we was in junior high, we was walking home, right?
Starting point is 00:12:11 Yeah. And these white girls put it. I think was after basketball practice. No, it was after the game I think. Oh shit. Which one is it guys? Get it together. It was one of those.
Starting point is 00:12:20 We walk at home, right? And these white girls put it up from our school. A-hawage twins, where y'all going? Yeah, shit. Just freaked out. I took it off, right? Yeah. Yeah. And he's white girls put up from our school a house twist we all go You know you didn't spit in the game you didn't holly just ran away. I was just weird man I was you know I wasn't gay or anything. I was just you know, he's just he got by hey 20 bucks is 20 bucks I'm both of you guys like that with the ladies. Yeah, he just left me dead and then like where's your brother going? I was like I don't. I'm gonna go Jordan. Wow. So no sports. We play sports. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:50 we play sports, but as far as like, it was just like me and him. That's all we needed was each other. We need for him. We've got what I'm about to who created that that for you guys to be close that which the parent play role in this or was it just the two of you guys. I think a lot of it had to do because when we grew up, we was really, really poor. Really poor. We didn't have nice clothes. We didn't have anything.
Starting point is 00:13:12 So we just stuck together. So we stuck together because we didn't want to get bullied. For now, because we didn't, I remember we was like. So confidence was low. Yeah, self-confidence was where we live, how poor we didn't have food most time. So we just stuck together because we didn't have a lot of self-confidence as kids growing up because our childhood was so rough.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah, but else is wearing like Jordans and we're walking around with USA five hundreds from the dollar store and like that. And Russell Eugene say, everybody had joy that. Yeah, it sucked. Our first house that we lived in was kids that didn't even have a bathroom had a outhouse. What year did you guys go up in 1921? No, there's just out first house that we live in with his kids that didn't have a bathroom had a outhouse
Starting point is 00:13:47 What year did you guys go up in 19 20? There's only four weeks older than me. We're four Yeah, we just came with and you're using out of it a yesterday or two days ago, right? You guys just had a birthday. Yeah, I think So so mom dad any What values were injected like give us a paint a picture of what values were injected growing up in the two of you guys. Was it, hey, you got to work hard, hey, you got to respect people, hey, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:10 you got to read books, what were some of the values? My dad, he worked two jobs. He was a barber and he worked at this, at this, like, it was Phil Christ. It's like a textile mill. And he was never home because he always had two jobs. And my mom was like really Christian and she always told us to do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:14:29 It never do drugs. Or you'll wind up like your cousin, he's own drugs and you don't want to be like them. So, but my dad, he worked really hard. Actually, one of his jobs eventually killed him. He caught some disease that has worked from breathing in cotton and it killed him. How old were you guys?
Starting point is 00:14:46 He actually died on my 14th birthday. On your 14th, how did that affect you guys? It was terrible. It was rough. Yeah, I mean, it's been so long ago, but. And then I had an older brother who went into the military. So that was somebody else to look up to.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And a lot of my friends looking back on it didn't have no dads. Yeah. I didn't realize it at the time but all my close friends, all my close black friends, none of them, they had a mom, they had a grandmom, no dad. I never noticed any of that stuff. But when I looked back on it, at least I had a dad. I think that's what kept us in line. Wow. That's a lot of those guys stay Unfuited for them. They got locked up, you know, it was their relationship with pops where you guys close for the 14 years Like was there any kind of like you played I was sick of my daddy. Yeah, he's a big guy Well, he didn't really daddy didn't really talk much the only time you saw dad is when you fucked up
Starting point is 00:15:43 He was beating your ass. And he would beat our ass. Oh man. Like old school or no school. Old school, dad, if daddy was alive today doing this shit, he'd be locked up. You can't do this, he did that. That was a running back to guy in trouble
Starting point is 00:15:58 for whooping his kids. Oh, and a Peterson. Adrian Pearson. He made Peterson like the Pope. You know, he got knocked out last week by the way, Peterson did. He against the bell. Lavion Bell was the other guy. The running back, yeah. He knocked that Peterson.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Can we stay here on this dad concept? Yeah. Because we just came back from Madrid. We were interviewing Angiote. I'm sure you're familiar with that. Yeah, exactly. And a major focal point of the interview was the role of a father, the role of a man, the role of what Andru Tates dad,
Starting point is 00:16:30 the influence he had over him and his brother, the role that Pat's dad, Gabriel, had over him, and you said that you'd dad passed away when you were 14, but he was a badass dude, but whoop your ass, all that. Yeah, yeah. But you appreciated the fact that you at least you had a father you were talking about, the fact that all your friends didn't even have a father you didn't realize it
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah, meaning it was just completely normal in your lifestyle, right? Right, and then when did this epiphany hit you and like what happened to all your friends that didn't have fathers? I think this is something that young men are lacking these days. Yeah, a male influence a male figure leadership Go ahead. My dad really didn't talk much But I saw what he did each and every day That was a huge influence to me what my dad had to go through as far as working two jobs And I think that's very important for just men in general because if you don't have a father figuring your life You're gonna be like a woman actually if that's who's raising you you're gonna be like an angry woman
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, women are typically emotional Mm-hmm, and you don't woman. Women are typically emotional. And you don't want your men to be emotional. That's like a nightmare for men. Yeah, and as far as my mom, she really battled with a lot of self confidence because my mom, she grew up during Jim Crow. So by the time I was an adult, and I was 18,
Starting point is 00:17:40 I was traumatized about white people being racist because that's what she endured when she was a Growing up because she actually lived through Jim Crow and all that. What would she what would she tell you guys? So hey Keith Kevin just make sure when you're going on the streets And when you go to school if the white meant what what were some of the Mindsets that were instilled in you with what specifically my mom was for the most part was traumatized by racism What specifically? Well, my mom was, for the most part, was traumatized by racism.
Starting point is 00:18:04 You know, the things she looked at was through a lens of black versus white, because that's what she experienced. Like sense. So when I graduated and I went to school and when I went on to the military, I looked at white people totally different than when I do now because I heard all the horrors
Starting point is 00:18:18 thrown up as a kid. I lost my father, he wasn't in my life, but my mother's in my life, but what she instilled in us is just fear of racism. Fear of racism? Like fear of people judging you based on your daughter. Okay. I got it. Wasn't like, Hey son, in America, you can do whatever you want in your life. As long as you do the work and you read is that what she's saying or no, she's saying the opposite. We had a lot of experience with racism. I remember I remember Keith was, he was a still in the, he was in a big time spell.
Starting point is 00:18:51 You know, I, so Keith, he has to be, just my story. This is sixth grade. I was really, I want, I seen kids on TV going through the spell and being winning. I was like, I want to be that guy. Right. So I was sitting on,
Starting point is 00:19:04 I was, I want to be that guy. Right? So I was sitting home. So I want to be that guy. So I remember a spelling bee was announced. It was too much of a sudden, I'm going to enter this. So I sit in home just going over the list of words. It's going to be, you know, asked to spell. And I remember, it's like, man, you suck. You want to be a spelling bee kid. But he went, I studied my ass off. and it came down to me in this white kid. I remember his name was Troy
Starting point is 00:19:29 Remember him yeah, you Troy Troy. Oh Troy. Oh, Troy. It's my southern dialect coming through here Troy And they asked me they came to me and said spell almond. I remember it to this day. I'll never hold on that I said almond. I got this with I know how to spell it shit. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. I'm gonna be on the show. this and I was like, no, I spelled that correctly and they just like, no, then she spelled it and I was like, that's what I just said. And then the S-corded me off the stage and the white kid one. And I was so pissed, but I didn't realize it was racism at the time. I just thought I messed up. So I had this one teacher named was Miss B. She was a black teacher. She was the meanest woman. Nobody wanted a class.
Starting point is 00:20:27 All the black students. Beat his black woman in the world. None of the black students, oh man, you got Miss B for four. Oh my God, she's the worst. No black kid wanted her. She was black. And she was black and she was real hard on the black kids.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Real hard. I remember. Good way or bad way? In a good way. I remember the black girl showed up. She had. Wait or bad way. In a good way. Okay. I'm a black girl showed up. She had. Wait, let me just, let me, uh, let me just hold on hold on.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Hold on hold on. Just small, this is girl named Sonora. She showed up. She had dark red bright lipstick. Yeah. She was a dark skinned girl. Mm-hmm. Miss Drew actually took her bent over knee and powder her
Starting point is 00:21:02 and made a wipe up all the lipstick and told her she'd like a prostitute. Wow. This your girl must be. Yeah, Mr. Drew. Mr. Drew. What was it? Mr. Drew.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Mr. But in way back before I was really interrupted by your brother. Yeah. After the spell and be I was I was kind of like in tears. I was pissed. By the way, you spelled it correctly. I spelled it correctly. I saw back the future too.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I'm very familiar with the, I'll go positive the all minute. You spelled it right. So I go to Miss Drew and she's crying. And she was like, and that's the first time she ever said anything nice to me. She's like, I'm so proud of you, right? She asked like, but Miss Drew, I spelled the word correctly.
Starting point is 00:21:47 She said, no honey, it's just some things you don't understand right now. Right? And she explained to me, I said, really? Well, this is fucking bullshit. Now the community you live in, what's the split? What percentage is African American? What percentage is white?
Starting point is 00:22:04 We actually grew up in a poor white neighborhood. We lived in a poor black neighborhood before, but then my dad said, let's go live with these poor white people instead. I can put up with the racist jokes. I can't put up with all these damn crime and murder and drugs. So we grew up in a poor white neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:22:22 That's crazy perspective right there by the way. Yeah. Yeah. To see if you have a choose between crime, you know, all of that versus the racism, father chose the pain of having to deal with that over potentially losing your kids. Very interesting. And he actually said that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah, it was a lot safer. I mean, that was a, it was the West End of town where all the black people lived in the city and now they chose over there. So forget, Keith, we got, after basketball practice one day, one of the teammates, six great, six great. Six great, actually put a gun on me and Keith.
Starting point is 00:22:58 At basketball and say, give me all your money. I said, man, you robbing the poor black kid. This is a white kid or black kid? It's a black kid. And it's before they think school. Yeah, and we tried to rob two broke ass brothers. Yeah, but the poor black guys in town. What'd you give him?
Starting point is 00:23:12 I think I gave him a quarter. I don't think I had a couple shiny red pins. That's all he got. Yeah, and that was on the black side of town. And this kid was our age. What was we at 12, 13? He's already got a guy. I think it was 10, 11. He's already got I think was 11
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah, and he put it right to our face and rubbed us but the coach saw him yeah And he called us in the school the next day said what happened? I said yeah Michael pulled a gun on me and then he and they said and then they expelled him Yeah, funny thing is we went home. We was in military We went home and went to the West End where we used to play basketball. Just to reminisce. And then we saw the guy that pulled a gun. He's all out of here.
Starting point is 00:23:48 And he took off. I said, that was Michael. Let's get the hell out of here. He's probably going to come back and finish this whole thing. That's like a white man can't jump. I'm going to my car. Can I ask you guys a question about this? I think it's very powerful.
Starting point is 00:24:00 We just said that you grew up. Your mother was born and raised Jim Crow dealing with all that. You were raised amongst mostly black people. You moved to the poor side of town, all white people. What lessons did you learn about white people? Because your mother made you very scared of white people, I assume, right? Basically, the lessons just were teaching you. But here you are in a poor area of white people, right? It's not like these are privileged white people or even like, you know, blue collar, East Coast racism white people.
Starting point is 00:24:30 These are trailer charts. I remember playing with my friend, or mentioning his name, he came to one of my comedy shows, but every time we'll be playing with them, when we come up and they start playing with them, all of a sudden he would have to always go inside, right? His mom didn't like us. Yeah? His mom didn't like us. Yeah, his mom didn't like us.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I said, hey man, why y'all keep going inside? You know, he said, oh my mom don't like niggers. Said this. Yeah. Damn. He started laughing. I kind of started laughing too. I was like, you don't say.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Cause my mom already knew she already told me. Yeah, that's what I did doing it. Yeah. So what happened? So from this upbringing that you have, extreme, which in a way, I know it's gonna sound weird, but you have the worst of both worlds, right? You have the one side to see what it really looks like. And then the other side is what racism looks like.
Starting point is 00:25:23 So then you guys join the Marines at the same time, or not? time? Yeah, yeah, you guys go to the same unit, same everything is the same MOS or no, was it different? No, it's all different. We got split up. They didn't, our crew thought it'd be a bad idea to identical twins when the Marine Quartz same time. So we went in like three weeks apart. And then not the same unit or same base. No, I was first battalion. I was a third battalion. We're at Paris Island. Oh, so same, same base, but just not the same unit. Right. Which kind of, you still had a chance to have fun together, though.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I mean, it's not Holly, so not Marine Corps boot camp. No, that's not a boot camp. I got you. I got you. So was it active or was it where you reserved? Reactive. And then where did you go to after boot camp? I went to San Diego, Kevin went to Tustin.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Yeah. MCS Tustin. It was an old air wing. They closed down when I was getting out. I remember to San Diego, Kevin went to testin'. Yeah. MCS testin'. It was an old air wing. They closed down when I was gettin' out. I remember George Bush was closing down a bunch of bases. We went from MCS testin' to MCS El Toro, then he took El Toro to a thickage MCS Miramar in San Diego.
Starting point is 00:26:19 At what point are you guys, like at this point politics, what role does politics plan your life at 18 years ago in the boot camp. I thought all Republicans was racist. I thought all white people's racist. Yeah. I was raised to be a Democrat. My mom always taught us to see the Democrats of blacks Republicans are for whites. Yeah. She taught me that from as young as I can remember like five six seven years old. I remember was watching the bait and then she always Up and down she couldn't stand republished. Yeah, that's the reason it because she linked Republicans to racism as I kind of
Starting point is 00:26:54 She was very naive when it came to politics. Yeah, no idea that Jim Crow was by Democrats. She had no idea that KKK was started by the Democrats. She had no idea. My mom was a good one but she knew shit about public. Yeah. That's a lot of ours though, right? I mean, if you look at a lot of our, you know, who raises us? They don't they don't sit there and go. So what event caused you guys to get a
Starting point is 00:27:15 little bit more into it and get interested? Was it this insurance job that you guys had where I would say it's my older brother. He was a Republican. He used to put things in my ear, but I just thought he was an uncle Tom at the time. Yeah. I guess I think over time,
Starting point is 00:27:29 as you live your life and you have experience of other people, other that look like you, you start to develop like, you know what? I have control over my life. If I make good decisions, I will go for has nothing to do with my skin color.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And I think we just both saw that over time. I remember when we first came across, I didn't know the difference between the liberal and conservative. I came across Ben Shapiro, right? I remember he was on Pierce Morgan show. There was going to be a- Guns? Yeah, yeah, that's an alright, second amendment.
Starting point is 00:28:00 So I was a bat-she-crazy little bit at the time. So I'm like, liggin' a Ben Shapiro and I was like, oh man, that white supremacy, he's got an answer for everything. And then I found out that he was Jewish. It's like, wait a minute. How can a white supremacist be Jewish? Those two don't go together? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:18 So I started listening, then after I watched Ben Shapiro, even though I hated everything he said, everything he said made sense. Then I came across Larry Elder, started looking at Larry. And then, and then, Keith came across Mark Levin. Mark Levin, on the radio. People would just listen to him because he was always talking shit about a bomb. We just thought he was racist.
Starting point is 00:28:39 But the boy you listen to, I was like, dude, starting to make sense. Yeah. Now, who's introducing you to this stuff Is it your older brother or are you just coming across it? You too? I got you and are you guys living together at this time after the Marines? No, we're not living together at the time, but I remember I started seeing kelp said me look at this new Ben Shapiro He's killing this black girl And it's just common sense really yeah, If people think conservatism, the seeing conservatism, all it is is common sense. Yeah, if you just listen to both sides
Starting point is 00:29:11 and just be objective and listen to what both sides are offering, I literally do not understand how anybody could be a Democrat these days. Tees, I mean, you got women competing against men. You got, they pushing all this stuff on kids with the drag queens and his directories for girls for the going to pubic cause they want to be a man. I mean, this shit is, this is a freeing stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:35 This should not be being pushed mainstream like it is. I think the breaking point for us is, I voted for Obama's first term cause I thought, you know, I didn't really know. I just voted for him because he was black. At least you're honest about it. Yeah, I'm being honest about it. But he was the eye-opening after Obama and I started listening to both sides.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I hated Obama so much. I actually voted for Mitt Romney. Yeah, think of that. Yeah. Who's Obama's gonna flip to Mitt Romney? Yeah, he was the only option. Wow. How did that happen? Yeah, he was the only option. Wow. How did that happen?
Starting point is 00:30:06 Yeah. Think about that. When Obama ran, think about this, it was it was Mitt Romney and John McCain. And O A was McCain and McCain and 12 was Romney. That's correct. That was the Republican option. I think I think I'm not too much in the conspiracies. It's like they almost set Obama up to be president.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah. They almost set him up to be president. Yeah. They almost set him up to be president as a one-term senator. What do you mean set them up? Yeah, like they planned it, like they wanted a black president. Yeah, it's like they're both liberal. I mean, like, like, Mcken's both liberal. Uh, Mcken, I mean, they're Republicans, but they're liberal the way they vote, the way they, uh, their views, it's liberal. Like Mitt Romney, it's not a Republican. You know, I mean, McCain, he's a Republican, but no, he's really not a, uh, conservative. It's like that was your only option if you didn't
Starting point is 00:30:56 want to see Obama. Well, don't, aren't these people are called rhinos, right? Republicans in names are only wouldn't say the problem with, you know, we can kind of talk Democrats, Republicans, what, what conservatives these days. But the contingency where you're talking about Liz Cheney or Adam Kinzenger, the people who are not, you know, Republicans, these are traditionally what Republicans are. Now it's MAGA, right? So there's this kind of infighting within that. I don't really think it's that they would say that MAGA is not traditional Republican. So how do you process that? I just think there's a bunch of disinformation. MAGA, I mean, Trump is not traditional Republican. So how do you process that? I just think there's a bunch of this information. MAGA, I mean, Trump is not the Republican Party.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Correct. Yeah, Trump. MAGA is not the Republican Party. Republican Party now are conservatives. People believe in conservatism, the Constitution. That's what the Republican Party is. It's not MAGA, it's not Trump. Trump galvanized the Constitutionals or on the right, but he is not the Republican party. That's
Starting point is 00:31:49 just propaganda. That's all that's all that. But you actually think that's to them to discredit the Republican party. Sure they are. But do you actually think when you define conservatism, the first thing you go to is the Constitution, because that's not where I go whatsoever. I don't think I don't think 99 out of 100 Americans can tell you what the hell the constitution says left, right or center. Yeah, I'm the same way. I'm saying freedom of speech, freedom of care, a weapon, yeah, yeah, freedom to a family, freedom to go to work. I mean, just basic rights that we have under the constitution and over this last pandemic, they took all that away from us, even the
Starting point is 00:32:23 Republicans initially shut everything down, but over time the Republicans was to part his aid, we're hiding from a virus. This is stupid, you can't run from a virus. It's time to go back to work and live our lives. But the only people that remained it shut everything down and want to hide from it was the Democrats. Yeah, Republicans just believe in freedom.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Let me live my life. And Democrats think they know how to To live everybody's life for them. I'm not for the ester Republican party. My also Republicans just want to be left alone Democrats wants to be in everybody's life. It seems like to me, you know Yeah, well, no, I you're absolutely right. I mean we're living in a state which is be called you know the free state of Florida There's no doubt that Florida the Sanctus has led the way in terms of freedom. You guys were living where during the pandemic We listen on Nevada. You're in Nevada. Okay, and how did your state handle the pandemic? Mask shut down. Yeah, just stupid. Okay, cuz we've been in Vegas a couple times right Pat and and the first time we were there
Starting point is 00:33:23 I mean ever it was like desolate. It was yeah, and it killed him because everything in Vegas a couple times, right Pat? And the first time we were there, I mean, ever it was like desolate. It was, yeah. And it killed him because everything in Vegas is tourism. Right. So it really bit them and ass in the long run. We had the eventually open. We were the first ones that didn't event when they opened it up and it was surprised to everybody when they did open it up. But let's keep going here because again,
Starting point is 00:33:41 my interest is how you guys went from mom and dad, how you were raised. 14 years old, you lose your dad because you said a place he was working at where he goes on your birthday, which is talk about a day, day, you can remember for the rest of your life. And then on the other side, mom is saying, hey, racist, be careful, guys, all this other stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Then you go to the military, your older brothers kind of like feeding you some stuff on the conservative side. Then you hear some Ben Shapiro Larry elder, you see some Mark live in and you're like, hey, this kind of stuff makes sense as a conservative as you're growing up. So at what point did you guys say, we want to talk about this? When you created the YouTube channel, did you think you were going to go that route or was a more, you know, let's review some supplements. Let's test this out and let's do that.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And let's do this. Just having fun. Okay. Talking about current events and fitness, relationships, just having fun. Then over time, you know, we saw the direction the country was going in. I remember the breaking point for us was when the kid, there was in Texas, he went to a water berger and he was wearing his Mac ahead. Yeah, remember you got a tag,
Starting point is 00:34:46 you got a tag from him. So I keep came over and prayed out there, say, let's don't say what we are, because we hadn't came out of Klausie yet. So, we came out of the Klausies. Yeah, we was Klausied Conservatives. So your audience doesn't know yet. Yeah, no idea.
Starting point is 00:35:00 How long have you been creating content without them knowing about it? We've been on YouTube since, oh wait. All five, six years. So you go in six years, they don't know your... So the first time you choose to do this to wear mega hats, okay, and how does that work out? Yeah, well, we told you before I cut you off, we used to take, because we always loved the cops.
Starting point is 00:35:19 We would always, people, all, I love you, your channel, which you do, relationships, it's funny. We would take picture with cops, and I love cops, because we don't even have a society. This place is over and by thugs and cremers, you know? So every time we take a picture with a cop, just to show our gratitude for police, we would always get these crazy comments. Yeah, we're supposed to picture on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:35:39 It's just like, man, y'all taking pictures with cops. Do you know your history? Is that black people talking shit? Oh, two. Black people. If you wanna try it out, all black people with two-pock emojis. I mean, there's ignorant people with your white or black, but if you want to see a real ignorant person, go check out a black. They take ignorance to a whole new level. Well, how many times does a black person called you in Uncle Tom? I'm sure you've lost count. I'd be as rich as you say him. Well, walk me through that process because as a black person,
Starting point is 00:36:09 you guys are both black guys, correct way from wrong. Yeah. I mean, you kind of let that get that good, you know, lights. I'm like, but wait a minute. I want to hear the story. They didn't tell the story. Let them finish their story with the hat. So what happened? There's a story coming up. Yeah, T.C. LA is doing a video. Just don't tell them that we conserve it. You can come down in a middle, common sense, right? So we did the video on Instagram posted it. Always saying the video, nobody ever be attacked for wearing. A hat.
Starting point is 00:36:33 First of mint, right, right? So I think we even say in the video, if you got an Obama shirt, nobody should attack you. If you got a Trump shirt, nobody should attack you. It's your freedom, right? You have a shirt. This is America. This is America, right?
Starting point is 00:36:45 Which treasure, first of all? Right in this country, yeah. We put the video up, right? And when we put it up, you know how you go on Instagram, you can lick it to your statistics. Yeah. Man, it looked like Bitcoin. So, it's break down.
Starting point is 00:36:57 We lost like 50,000, 15,000 followers in an hour. Yeah. What? Yeah, and you know that really pissed me off. And I was like, I got a bunch of liberal, I can't say the F word, that's a derogatory. I got a bunch of liberals. And it just really, man, it pissed me off so much. These people have been watching me for years. And for them to just throw me away like I'm a used condom. Just like that, because of that video. So it really galvanized us. I said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:37:28 Let's start doing political content. I don't want these people following me anymore. Halfway through it, like a week into it. I was like, man, this is a career suicide when we do it. But we never knew conservatives were gonna come out and support us the way they did it. Where's more popular than we've ever been? Where were you at the time when you lost the 15,000?
Starting point is 00:37:47 How many sub-gallers you've been through? We were around $475,000 on Instagram. Yep. And now we will over. It felt like almost, I think it almost got so bad, we almost fell under $400,000. Yeah. Because of the post.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Because of that one post. Because we stopped. Big Mac and Hassan, you're sorry. We were, we were the mag at. I never I was I was I was a Trump support. I just say nobody should be attacked. That's all we said. Oh, wait a minute. So you never put the hat on you never supported you just said nobody should be attacked. And that cost you 15,000 same within an
Starting point is 00:38:18 hour. Within an hour. She'd fill out of the table like Bitcoin holy shit. And then but like I said, it like really pushed us to start doing political content. And it's hard talking about politics, because it's so you get pissed off, just talking about it. Who was the first, like if you were to say, you know how sometimes, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:38 we do the interview with Tate. Okay. So, hey man, you know, we're gonna see what's gonna happen and then all of a sudden, the people that send you message like, wait, you follow that? I agree with everything the guy says, I just can't say publicly. I agree with it.
Starting point is 00:38:52 And these are people in Hollywood and sports are like, just DM and me, not stop, not stop, not stop. And many of these interviews, you do, you'll see who likes it. Like we'll do the mob interviews and interesting communities. Like, hey, I watch all the mobbing, we'll do bodybuilding, the bodybuilding people show up. Who were some of the first big names that messaged you to say,
Starting point is 00:39:07 hey, man, we support you, keep out of it, we got your back, where you said, we're not alone. Well, a lot of people didn't, Hollywood didn't follow me immediately. Yeah, never heard from them again. Yeah, well, all the black ones anyway. But did you get, when you said you started getting support, I mean, there was a name where you said, wow, that this guy supports us pro football players from the Dallas Cowboys Pro baseball players
Starting point is 00:39:32 Any political commentators any political comment like did did you hear from Larry elder did you hear from Bangeino did you hear from Candace did you hear from any of these guys at the time? I've worked with everybody knows who you are. I'm just saying at the time. They were They didn't reach out person, but they would retweet our towards the point. That's a form of support. Yeah. So, but as far as the whole Uncle Tom stuff, that really stems from black people think as a black person, you have to vote Democrat.
Starting point is 00:40:00 So they're not actually thinking what their mind used to brain when they vote. They think what their skin color. So when they see me vote for Republican, they start to project and think, I'm voting for Republicans cause I love white people. I wanna be white. I wanna have white friends or white girlfriends. That's just dumb shit out here.
Starting point is 00:40:16 But it has nothing to do with race while we're Republican. Black people have not realized why I'm Republican. Has nothing to do with my race. I understand why you vote, Democrats, culture, black, and you think you believe the Democrat party own your vote. Yeah, so Biden thinks it too. He said, if you don't vote for me, you're not black.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I mean, I get that, but that's not why I'm Republican. It has nothing to do with race. And it has everything to do with freedom. And so I'm living my life. So, so Keith Kevan. Yes, by the way, I'm starting to realize the difference. If I see this straight, I'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:40:47 He flips me immediately. No, you got a different smile than he's got. It's all in the eyes. Eyes is how I tell you guys apart, nothing more. Not color in the eyes, but the eyes have a different look. Okay, but Keith, question for you. So, for you what you say, I don't understand common sense to be a conservative, right?
Starting point is 00:41:03 I don't even know how somebody could be a democrat today so okay there's a lot of people on the other side that have fancy degrees that are very well off that are financially well off some of the more billionaires a lot of the more billionaires you can't tell me their their dummies to be a lot of dummies why do you think they're democrats what makes you what what do you think why do you think they're democrats well first of all they're successful close the end of greatest country in the world kay first of all they're successful because they're in the greatest country in the world. Okay. First and foremost, the reason why they're democrat is
Starting point is 00:41:28 did not think in rationality, did not think in logically, did not lose using logic at all. I don't say anybody could support the Democratic Party with that policy. How would they become billionaires because to become a, we could become very successful in life. Right. You have to be able to reason and to be able to stretch a dollar. You have to be able to hire the right people. You have to be able to put systems together to raise capital. You have to do a lot of those things to be able to succeed, regardless where you are politically.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Why do you think these people still use emotion to gain votes? Just like what happened in Georgia. They trying to change around the voting. They won't vote ID. How did the Democrats spend that? They call it Jim Crow. This is racism. They actually moved the Mangal League baseball game
Starting point is 00:42:15 out of Atlantic Georgia to Colorado. They use emotion for votes. Once you can grab somebody emotionally, they stop thinking. Tell a black person somebody's racist, oh that's all they need to hear. That's it. You don't have to use logic to know racism and bad. So when he hear that, they believe it. Yeah, I think a majority of billionaires are liberal because they don't think for the
Starting point is 00:42:38 little man. I mean, if I'm a billionaire, the first thing, I don't see why any billionaire want to be a conservative begin with because they're being conservative, man, you think about everybody as far as a billionaire, does it mean you, just because you're a billionaire or a rational or a logical thinker, all you're thinking about, all you have for the most part is great ideas for a business.
Starting point is 00:43:00 You put out a great idea and everybody gravitates towards it and that's how you can earn lots and lots of money. Then they don't have ideas. Does that mean, let's identify this that. So at this point, I'm by the way, I'm playing the devil's advocate, I'm just trying to enjoy good debate here.
Starting point is 00:43:18 So let's identify the fact that people who are billionaires, they're great at being creative and coming up with the best ideas. Does that also mean that the left has given them better ideas to bind to vote for? Because they're attracted by their ideas. Because look, it's either messaging, it's either delivery of messaging, it's either...
Starting point is 00:43:37 That's exactly what it is. So what's how you deliver your message? Okay. How you present your message. Democrats are actually better politicians than Republicans. Yeah. Republicans rely on the truth to push out their message. Democrats play politics.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah, they do a lot of ad-harmony attacks, they do a lot of things that intellectuals should not do in any civil debate. They say things they call people like racism. As a black man, the first thing when I heard somebody say somebody's racist, I didn't even double check it. I automatically assume they're racist because I was traumatized ever since I was a young age. So when that boss here, a Democrat say the other side is racist, they're being intellectually dishonest
Starting point is 00:44:19 because they already know for black people when he hit it where you're traumatized. You don't have to worry for black people, when he hit it, where you're traumatized, you just a red flag. Do you think that's why? So now we're getting to a point of, they're able to tap into the emotional side. Republicans are kind of like, this is the truth. How do you not understand it? This is logical, you know?
Starting point is 00:44:37 But the whole thing about facts tell stories sell. Republicans are trying to solve facts and people are like, you're not emotionally, so going back to the whole thing with the emotional side. Okay. sell, Republicans are trying to solve facts and people are like, you're not emotionally too. So, going back to the whole thing with the emotional side. Okay. So, I'll tell you like, Patrick, Democrats, they sell victimhood. Nobody wants to be able to, like Republicans, it's all about, pull yourself up by your
Starting point is 00:44:58 bootstraps, you know. As far as when it comes to Democrats, they like to sell victimhood. It's very hard to convince somebody that you are the problem. Like, it's not your government, it's not society, it's not racism. Your life is based on the ideas you come up with and how. Nobody likes that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Nobody wants to hear it. And that's our very hard sale. That's a very hard sale. Everybody. Yeah, everybody wants to hear, oh, it's not my fault, it's the government. That's so powerful. It's not my fault, it's the government. It's not my fault.
Starting point is 00:45:25 It's racism. That's why, I mean, it's for us being a Democrat. They do have, you know, they have it a lot easier when you're presenting the matches because a lot of these things that they share with people about racism, transphobia, all these things, a majority of them are just made up terms to divide everybody so they can grab your vote They could care less about society if you ask me a Democrat like the one thing about
Starting point is 00:45:51 Trans people they are high suicide rates. They die at a high rate than other people. Mm-hmm I heard Joe Biden say that It's trans people are dying all the time. Well, he never says why they're dying Why are they dying? Are they dying because they're transgender, somebody's killing transgenders? Or are they dying because they're, they are, they participate in risky activities, risky behavior or risky behavior. Mental health issues. Or mental health issues. Is this leading that? Sure. Yeah. So, I mean, I understand that's happening, but why is it happening? Why don't we address why it's a leading that for sure. Yeah, so I mean, I understand that's happening, but why is it happening?
Starting point is 00:46:25 Why don't we address why it's happening? Yeah. Instead of saying explain why it's happening, they'd say it's as a result of transphobia. Yeah, white supremacy. And then they call us transphobic. You know what I mean, comedy shows, we got canceled because they label us transphobic.
Starting point is 00:46:39 When I'm not transphobic at all. Yeah, like nobody, like they always cut, we had like three or four shows canceled. Yeah. Like a lot of people don't know my, my, my, my, my younger son, his babysitter was transgender. Nobody knows that. Yeah. She was a female.
Starting point is 00:46:55 She wanted to live her life as a man. She's transgender. Every time she came in there, she's looking at entertainment television, looking at a bunch of drag shows. I didn't fire her. I didn't throw out the house. When she came and sat me down and said, Hey, I'm going to start transitioning. I was like, we need transitioning. You got to give me two weeks
Starting point is 00:47:11 notice. Before I transition to a new big thing across it. Yeah. I didn't fire. I still we still know our still talk tour from time to time. I'm not transphobic. So, so do you think, do you think this whole thing would emotion and logic? Okay. So I'm going to go to an interesting place here with our friend Adam. So emotion and logic, do you think maybe, you know, say the
Starting point is 00:47:36 left is willing to play dirty politics where maybe the right doesn't get as dirty as they do? Hypothetic. A lot of people say this. Absolutely. But a politician. Do you think this is why they lost their minds when they found an equal match in a guy that was willing to get dirty and play the emotional game as Trump did?
Starting point is 00:47:52 Yeah, and he's not part of the whole political system because it's like debuicious. I mean, they've been in like Trump is not a politician. Yeah. Like when I look at Obama, you can listen to him. He's a great talker. He's very charismatic It makes you feel good inside. Yeah, when I sit out listening to Trump If I'm if I'm a malcontinent person, I feel horrible about He gives tough love. He tells it like it is. He's not gonna shoot good code anything. Yeah, I mean He could take some lessons from Ron DeSantis. Don't get me wrong. Yeah. But Trump is not a politician. He's like a UFC fighter. Yeah. He's going to like
Starting point is 00:48:30 when he, he started going out of a Rand Paul. I mean, that wasn't a debate. That was bullied. You know what I'm saying? And why all the conservatives gravitated towards him because we just went through Mitt Romney and McCain. Yeah. And Rand Paul's a patriarch. I love Rand Paul. Yeah, he's an intelligent guy and he just push voucher again, this, this less. Oh, man, he's all over Fauci. Yeah. Oh, so, so you're saying, so you're saying him, he came in.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So for you, do you see a dissentist now looking at what worked in like, I almost see like diss the Santas a very good student by the way because the Santas you know sports the NBA changes every once in a while. So 30 years ago to win a championship you needed a big man. So it was a team Robinson Shaq like everybody needed a big man. You win we got to go get our big man right. And I was like no you really don't you need a good two guard or you need a this or you needed that right. And I know we're going to do really don't. You need a good two guard or you need a this. Or you need a that.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And I know we're gonna do our, you know, what he called the Boston when they had Ray Allen, Puppie. You need a big three. So LeBron, Bosch and all this guys. I see DeSantis sitting there as a student watching us saying, let me tell you, Romney didn't work, McKinney didn't work. But this guy made every one of them feel so uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:49:44 because he shot fires first. That's what I'm gonna do. And the sentence in his own way is practice in his trolling abilities. Because if you go back to the sentence four years ago, he was a guy that was a troll. I don't know if you, I don't remember the sentence being a troll. But now you're seeing the top-gov, now you're seeing all the stuff that he's doing. Is he trying to say for those of you that like that part of Trump, don't worry, I'm gonna do that as well.
Starting point is 00:50:07 And you get that as well on top of the right policies. I see a little bit at in him, but he's still when he says something, you can't twist his words. You can very easily take Trump's words and twist them around. Yeah, like you can't do that. We're wrong. When Trump said about, you know, the whole kneeling thing was going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And Trump cares if five of those sons of bitches throw my, I'm like, you know, the whole kneeling thing was going on. Yeah. And Crump said, Fadda, son, the picture, storm. I'm like, you're not going to get the black vote calling those black football players. Mom, son, the big. Yeah. I mean, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:50:34 I mean, I liked it. I liked it. Fadda, get them on here. Should it be protests on our flag protest injustice? Don't protest our flag. Yeah. I mean, it's the right to protest.
Starting point is 00:50:44 That's the right to protest. And I'm not saying they don't have the right, you know, but it's the right to protest. That's the right to protest. And I'm not saying they don't have the right to do so, but it's also such things in effective protests. Yeah. That protest was very ineffective. You divided the country when you do that. If you really want to bring people together, hold up signs of white and black people who's been killed and murdered by the cops. Did you feel there was unjust?
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah, hold up the flag. Because the flag, that flag stands for freedom for us all. Yeah, yeah, so instead of coming up with black lives matter Should've been all lives matter if you really but not it wasn't about bringing things about police brutality about Dividing his country. They really want to bring us together in police brutality. It's a man that died just like George Ford his name was last name was tipper at had a courting Texas George Ford, his name was, last name was Tippa, it occurred in Texas. Zack, he died, the exact same way. Those cops are still on the force
Starting point is 00:51:28 while they copped it, you know, nailed on George Floyd, he's in prison. Because it's not about bringing people together, it's not about police brutality. That black Lives Matter was all about keeping black people thinking a certain way, so they are bolder, certain way. Yeah, vest on reason why we have that organization. It's my humble opinion. Yeah, they're pushing victimhood. Now you look at that organization, they're boldest certain way. Vesta, the only reason why we have that organization is to put my humble opinion.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah, to push victimhood. Now you look at that organization, they're suing each other. Over what? Money. That's why there are whole organizations there. Yeah, money. Yeah, I mean, I'm processing your guy's story,
Starting point is 00:51:55 you know, how basically your mother raised her in Jim Crow. You guys were devout liberals, you voted for Obama. And now, oh, wait, you've been going through this sort of red pill process You're you know basically you're talking about B.L.M. and you're standing up against that. I think the facts are By a percentage or two 90% of black people vote for Democrats. I don't think it's close, bro It's not like 55 not even close. It's only demographic. It does it. Yeah Exactly. Why do you what do you think needs to happen for black people to realize?
Starting point is 00:52:26 All right, let me be a little bit more open-minded and maybe even think about voting Republican. I'm not saying they're going to pull the switcheroo, but to even let it into their temptations. What do you think they'll have? They always say white supremacy is coming from the right. No, that's just coming from the left. If they really want to change black people's perspective when it comes to politics versus liberalism and conservatism, Hollywood, we're getting involved, but they're not going to do that because black people that catch call when it comes to politics. I believe in white supremacy, but it's not the white supremacy of the man in the Ku Klaklan outfit saying in this in that. No, when I look at white supremacists, I look at the whole of the man in the Ku Klaklan outfit saying in this in that, no, whites, when I look at
Starting point is 00:53:05 white supremacists, I look at the whole of the Democrats have on blacks in a way, do you think, and how they label other blacks that are conservative? That's how I see whites. But what do you actually think needs to happen for that transition? How do you transition that? About church. Well, how the one ain't going to do nothing. You know that.
Starting point is 00:53:21 What needs to happen for what? I'm curious. I did. For blacks to actually consider to vote Republican. I'm trying to understand that mindset. This is, I don't think it's. Because Hollywood's not gonna change. That's the main reason why.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Media is not gonna change. That's the main reason why they got here. And it's to start with the grassroots, right? And it's to start by black people like you guys, like Candice or Mary Elder. People rights leaders. Okay. You know, you know, but that's the thing, man.
Starting point is 00:53:43 This day in age, you don't need a black leader. What's wrong with a white guy telling you to crew? Yeah, why does it have to be a black guy? Why can't it be a Chinese skin? Mm-hmm. If you if you really want to judge people by the content It's good. Why does it have to be a black guy just telling you to crew? Yeah, I feel you on the surface But I but people you two colors very important it is important especially the black people because The main reason why Dr. Monlooh King black people because the main reason why Dr. Mungo King was assassinated, the main reason why my comics was assassinated is because I don't, you know, the message they put out there about being independent work face-sell, you know, work hard and make good decision. That's the main reason why those two men were assassinated.
Starting point is 00:54:18 And guys, don't forget color matters. Why did you vote for Obama in 2008? Go ahead, tell me. There you go. I was a doubtful. No, but because you saw Black guy and you said, you know what? I'm going with him. We're going to be our policies for that. We lacked objectivity. I got to tell you. The main reason why I voted for Obama is because what my mom went through,
Starting point is 00:54:37 I really wanted her to see a Black president. And before she died, she's like, man, this country has changed so much. And here's how I've been here. Look at your brother. he retired from the army. Look how successful he is. He said, my mom's told me that, she's like, oh, he looking to you guys on YouTube and having a good time,
Starting point is 00:54:52 so man, this country has changed so much. Yeah. There's no question about it. I think it's already happening at him. I think it's already happening behind closed doors. Look at the country as a human being. Okay, as the country is aging itself, it's also going to go back and forth with different types of crisis you experience. When
Starting point is 00:55:11 you see certain things you're going to change, I think behind closed doors, people are still like, the other day, Cardi B, she just went out on a random on Twitter. I know you guys had an issue with Cardi B a few years ago, which was very interesting. Hey, they would have paid, college tuition would have been free. I wouldn't have needed to strip. And you're like, what are you talking about? You guys came back up going to free your tax. Yeah, exactly. But she said she's like, you know, my family's calling me
Starting point is 00:55:32 and they're asking me to help her out financially, help her my financially, which I'll do. I'll do that. That's okay. I'm doing it with some of my family, but what is going on with inflation? And he says, then she said the line. I don't know if you heard what she said.
Starting point is 00:55:41 She said, and I know some of you all gonna say, well, you're the problem. You voted for Joe Biden. I'm not blind. I know what's going on. I'm paying attention to what's going on. I have money. So, Cardi B, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:55:53 Or her to even say that. Right. To even say that, to get that audience. And then, you know, you're getting more people gradually talking about this, where the other night we're having spending time with a guy from Hollywood who We're going out there having dinner. We're having a nice conversation together and he says listen man You guys got to know there's a lot of conservatives on Hollywood. There's a lot of conservatives of Hollywood
Starting point is 00:56:17 One of the best things that happened to Hollywood and what's going on right now where I think this is gonna be flipping I think Netflix ruined Hollywood. I think Hulu, Netflix, I think Amazon, I think a bunch of these OTTs, I think daily wire with the movies they're making, I think Barstool, I think Us, I think, you know, you go to some of the smaller guys that are coming up, I think, you know, even rumble with Chris, what he's doing over there, I think, every one of these things is getting people to check and be like, oh, maybe before we would have just dropped the guy like this, we can't now because they have an option to go to the other place. Maybe before we could only put the video in one place, we're going to take it down.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Well, I'm going to put it here, you don't have another place. So Spotify now allows certain users to put videos up so people go watch it on Spotify, people go to Rumble. So I think what happened is when you play this game of choking people and silencing them, tape we're talking about this the other day, is behind closed doors you're giving birth to flag carriers who don't want to be
Starting point is 00:57:25 controlled. They want to be left alone. And those flag carriers are also passionate that they're willing to come and find their types of people and they're doing it today. So I think Hollywood, the days of a Weinstein having a control of everybody, you have to go through them. Those days are gone. Netflix showed a formula that bunch of people are following.
Starting point is 00:57:46 It's scared to cramp out of everybody in Hollywood. They don't know what to do right now. It's the best thing. Same with social media, by the way. Same with social media. I think it's going in the right direction. And I think it's already going in the direction. But guys, like, people are listening right now
Starting point is 00:57:59 if you're listening to this. I'm looking at the commentary. You know, our audience, you know, we have people that are obviously capitalist, but we have some people, oh, I hate Trump, I hate this, I, people listen and they said, this makes sense. Look at the story, what they went through, you know?
Starting point is 00:58:11 Sometimes when you're going through something as a kid, you're like, why the hell am I going through this? Like, what are you doing, God? And then he's up there saying, you'll know in 30 years. That's a long time, don't worry about it. I'm gonna know how to use you in 30 years. Be patient. These guys went through what they went through,
Starting point is 00:58:24 God's using them in a way right now that, by the way, there's no book that's gonna convert in a different way than their stories right now. You're watching two brothers telling their stories here so what happens to some people are like, yeah, kind of related this. This kind of does make sense on what's taking place. By the way, just listen to you guys.
Starting point is 00:58:42 The feeling I get is In the most subtle way you guys are leaning more towards Desanthus than a Trump administration in 2024 is that a pretty good read or no? I'll take them both. I don't Yeah, take either or okay, but that's the funny thing about it. I don't know if Trump's gonna run Mm-hmm, and I think I don't know just looking at what the sense is doing. I think he's gonna run Yeah, but and I don't know if Trump's gonna run. And I think, I don't know, just looking at what the census is doing, I think he's gonna run. Yeah, but I think Trump may not run. I think Trump's gonna run, but I think I'm not necessarily think the census is gonna run with Trump, though.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yeah, I think the census is gonna run. Yeah. And if Trump wants to run for president, it is fair. That's gonna get a... What? So there's a whole different camp that even, you know, Tucker Connum is, you know, eluded to a little bit that, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:29 this indictment, indicting thing. Do you think any of that's gonna be taking place? You think there's a need to- I don't like being in that. Okay, got it. I mean, they've been- They've been- Yeah, I mean, for years they've been saying he's been doing this
Starting point is 00:59:39 and that and nothing ever came of it. And now they're reading this house. I still don't believe until I see it. Yeah. What do you think Keith, were you out with that? Could it happen? Could it get that ugly, where they may do that to them
Starting point is 00:59:50 to just eliminate a competitor? They impeached them twice for just breathing. So I wouldn't put it past. I mean, what'd they go in and die them for being orange? I mean, he is guilty of that, bro. I mean, you might not like it. You know what I had to get over when I made that switch over to conservatism.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I always voted for people who I liked. And I brought that to my head when you said that. You don't vote for people who you like. You vote for people who's gonna make this gonna make this a better place to live. You vote for that policies. Has nothing to do with these handsome. If you like him, if he's charismatic,
Starting point is 01:00:27 has nothing to do with it. I want an asshole in office, if he's gonna take care of my family, my rights and protect country. You don't care if he's an asshole, if he takes care of you. I don't care if he's an asshole. Yeah, but see your objective.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Most people ain't objective. Yeah. You know, well, I'll tell you what, Bill, you guys watch Bill Mar ever? Yeah, yeah. Okay. He's getting more and more, leaning more and more. Well, he's just Bill Mar ever. Yeah, yeah, okay. He's getting more and more, leaning more and more. Well, he's just the typical Democrat.
Starting point is 01:00:48 He's not far left. He's just, that's what he, what he, what he, what he's the traditional liberal. Yeah, but you talked about being an asshole, right? And I think that's part of the reason that Biden, you know, is the president now, because people were sick of the asshole tendencies. But I'm gonna read you what Bill Mar had to say.
Starting point is 01:01:02 He was basically saying that there's the rise of the meh voter, the meh, like, ah, ah, just, ah, I just don't, ah, Trump, ah, ah, meh. You know, this whole concept. And he said, one of the reasons, obviously, you know, you as, you know, kind of comedian-type guys, you'll appreciate this. He said, they're basically saying there are so many good reasons that, to give Democrats your vote against on Bill Marhead. He basically says, well, things could be worse in
Starting point is 01:01:27 Flation, right? The economy. There's no other option because the other guys are fucking dick. That's what he says on this. And that's how people basically process Trump. Is I totally understand that if maybe if it'll benefit the country, this is a good question. If it benefits the country, we'd rather have an asshole in office, or a nice guy in the country kind of goes down the hill. That's the kind of the country essentially grappling with right now. But you're saying you'd rather have the asshole?
Starting point is 01:01:55 Yeah, I think for the most part of Trump in office, I'm despicable. I think if he's in office, I don't think Putin invades Ukraine. I think it's a huge possibility, you know? That was lean to a majority of the inflation that we... I do hear that argument. They address it.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I do hear that argument all the time. And you very well might be accurate. The other side, the flip side, people are saying, all right, cool. All right, I don't think Trump, if he was in office, they would have invaded Ukraine. The other side is basically saying, cool, maybe you're right. But now that the war is being fought, whose side would Trump be on?
Starting point is 01:02:27 Would he be standing, be pandering the Putin at this point? Would he be basically sending a lot of money to Ukraine? These are the questions that the left is basically responding with. I'm not saying that's right or wrong. This is the best thing. If he was in office, he would probably siting with Putin. I think, I don't think he'd be sat with anybody. I think more than anything, he'll be trying to side with Ukraine
Starting point is 01:02:45 because he wanted his son and a Biden son to be investigated. I think it will be more Ukraine side. The thing that would prevent it that holds war on a Ukraine is diplomacy. Putin's been saying it for years, decades. Ukraine is not to join. What is NATO?
Starting point is 01:03:03 NATO. That's all they want it. They got to be. That's all they want it. They got to. That's a potent, that's a bad thing. Yeah, well, Ukraine too much. United States. It's a, you, Ukrainians are like Russian blood, you know?
Starting point is 01:03:14 That's what happened in Ukraine is like California breaking away from the United States and becoming, wants to join, let's say, China. China or Russia. That's, that's equivalent what Ukraine is trying to do the United States would invade California You're being that best interest if California wants to be a part of Russia. What is the USA gonna do? They probably they're gonna invade California because they don't want Russia sit right there with all their arsenal They don't want communism on that dough step like that. No, they don't. They don't want to say it on their doorstep.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I don't think what's going on in Ukraine is good by any strict. What do you mean by that? Who doesn't want communism on their doorstep? The United States. Got it. I see what you're saying. You're saying California turns to a communist country.
Starting point is 01:04:00 They go with Soviet Union. USA is going to invade California. That's why I'm not s with any side, by the way. But I'm just giving you the reasons why I've rushed to did what they did. That's why they did. If diplomacy with a came in, a leader, if somebody leader, like maybe Trump, maybe I don't know,
Starting point is 01:04:17 maybe I'm just wrong, but somebody sitting down talking to both sides, they don't like this, we can't do this, but we can do this. If they just had three men, I mean, it shouldn't even come to, uh, uh, uh, this people don in Ukraine right now. Yeah. It shouldn't even come to war anymore. Because not days, these wars, nobody wins.
Starting point is 01:04:33 None of these wars. Yeah. I mean, like when you go to war nowadays, like, it's not like back war or two war one, people actually won those wars. These wars that we have, not nobody wins. Nobody wins. So when Russia invaded Ukraine, it could have been so many things done to prevent from this ever happening well the i mean the the greatest analogy these days it's it's
Starting point is 01:04:51 essentially a proxy war the the entire world is galvanized i mean i say the entire world the entire western world united states the EU ummm other countries are basically using Ukraine as a proxy war because nobody wants to see Russia succeed ironically. The Russian economy, I think GDP was actually positive during this war because they've escalating gas prices. The whole situation is weird. Okay, you're funding Ukraine for the war, but you will bond gas or oil from Russia.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I mean, it doesn't make any sense. Why can't we just be finally actually independent? I don't understand why we got to get involved with all these skirmishes across the and it's just just speaking. The skirmishes you saw what Biden had to say about obviously Ukraine and continuing to fund Ukraine, but you saw what he said about Taiwan and China. How did you process that path? Which part of it? We're basically said if China invades 60 minutes in a row, if they want things, if China invades 60 minutes in a row, if China invades Taiwan, would you send American troops to Taiwan?
Starting point is 01:05:49 He said yes. And I think the interviewer asked it again. He said yes, he would defend Taiwan. But did you also hear what he said when he was like? He said yes many times. And then he says, what would you do to Russia? He says, if I know I wouldn't tell you,
Starting point is 01:06:03 I wouldn't tell you what I'm gonna be doing. By the way, I respect that. Yeah, I like that answer. There's a part where he says, is the worst of the economy ahead of us. No, it's behind us. You can't say that because. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:06:16 But what's the, how would you expect him to say, yeah, worst times are coming? But what you're supposed to say is be straight up, like what you're supposed to do. We don't know, we're gonna find out. If we make some of the right choices, we're gonna find out what's gonna be taken place rather than saying a flat no.
Starting point is 01:06:29 But I do wanna say something here about what's going on during what you guys are talking about. You're saying Trump, would you know what? He's support this, would he support that? Couple of things happen just recently with Armenia. Tyler, if he can pull up that one tweet. So here's very important for us to, don't put it on the screen yet
Starting point is 01:06:47 until I kind of explain what happened. So in the last week, Azerbaijan troops attack Armenia. Armenia has a prime minister pushing you. So attack, Armenia, a couple hundred soldiers die. There's a lady named Anush, which you see the story circulating all over the place who the Azerbaijan military apparently took her. They raped her, they took her eyes out,
Starting point is 01:07:10 they put rocks there, they took out her fingers, put her in her mouth, and this story's going all over the place. And another soldier, our median soldier, this has been happening constantly. Now, when somebody says stories like this, you know a lot of friends from Azerbaijan will say, how could you say that?
Starting point is 01:07:23 You're selling us at evil people and papapapaappa. No problem. Fine. Let's speculate together as a person who's Armenian, who you know with side I'm going to lean on and I quite frankly don't even think that Paschini and is the right leader in the country right now because while you're doing this, everything's about alliances you create. Look at Israel. Israel is recreated alliances with America. You and then were bought out by China, and then Russia is supporting you in a way, but they kind of run Armenia. You're not really the prime minister of Armenia. It's really Russia,
Starting point is 01:07:52 but Russia's also playing politics for a couple different reasons. So watch what happens. Turkey. This is the part where a person like Putin has a good or not necessarily Putin. Some people who are from the side that they're saying NATO's playing games, this is what a Turkish member of parliament
Starting point is 01:08:11 just said a couple of days ago. I want you to play it, and then I'm gonna read what it translates to. He just said this on September 15th, okay? Play it, put the audio up, and I'll say exactly what he's saying to you. Go on, press play. So here's a message, I don't know if you get in the audio up and I'll say exactly what he's saying to you. Go on, press play. So here's a message, I don't know if you're getting the audio or not.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Start over Tyler. Okay, if you're getting it, don't worry about it. You can go watch us on Twitter. Here's what he says. Can we say to the Armenian administration, make up your mind, I remind you once again that the Turkish nation has the power to erase Armenia from history, geography,
Starting point is 01:08:46 and that they stand at the limit of our patience. This is a member of parliament from Turkey. Turkey is part of NATO. If a message like this is being given, this is like somebody from Germany saying, hey, Israel, if you guys make a comment, don't let us remind you of what we did to you guys back in the days with this. And guess what?
Starting point is 01:09:10 This guy, can you go up to his Twitter account, please? Go straight to his Twitter account. You have his handle. He's active on Twitter. That's him. So he just said this three days ago, this guy still has active on Twitter. FYI, I am not imposing for guy like this to be banned. I want people like this on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Do you know why? Because people can get to see that these types of people exist and you can make a decision for yourself. So now I'm gonna give a shout out to somebody. Nancy Pelosi, I rarely will give a shout out to Nancy Pelosi, but today's one of them. Nancy Pelosi, to me, is 10 times more presidential than Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Now forget about politics. Forget how you feel about any of these three characters here. Let me just say what I mean by this. Nancy Pelosi went to Taiwan and China said, if you do show up, look what we're going to do to you. She still went. Nancy Pelosi in the middle of all this challenges faced between Armenian Azerbaijan, she goes to Armenia
Starting point is 01:10:00 and spends a day there with a couple of the political leaders that went with her, Armenian folks that went with her, and she goes, pays a respect for what's going on. Now, here's a part. Yesterday, I go on Fox News YouTube channel. I go on MSNBC YouTube channel. I go on CNN YouTube channel. I type in CNN, Armenia. You know what you see?
Starting point is 01:10:18 This much. I go type Fox, Armenia, this much. Pelosi goes to Armenia. Nothing's talked about, right? So Turkey is got Azerbaijan's back, okay? Turkey is a part of NATO and they made this threat. And what does Erdogan say? Going around saying, we're gonna do whatever,
Starting point is 01:10:36 we're gonna do to Armenia, we can make you guys erase in this, you know, parliament member can say what he can say, and they stay on. So moral, the story is the following. You got to bite in a Kamala Harris was just asked is the border safe? Did you see a response? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Well they asked the question. So is the border safe? And I don't know if you got the video, if you can pull it out, because the video was just absolutely ludicrous on what she's saying. Like you can't even sit there and process it and say, did she really just say that?
Starting point is 01:11:04 Tyler, I don't know if you got it up or not, you look like you're going through all of them. Yeah, okay, watch this answer here, very weird. The border is secure, but we also have the broken immigration system, a particular over the last four years to re-fresh, and it needs to be fixed. He asked in question, okay, just question first and then he goes, okay.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Secure, but we also have a broken immigration system in particular over the last four years before we came in and it needs to be fixed We're gonna have two million people cross this border for the first time ever your confident this border secure listen to our answer We have a secure border in That that is a priority for any nation, including ours and our administration. You know when I hear you give that answer,
Starting point is 01:11:49 all she's thinking about is, how is this gonna be written about in the paper? How is this gonna be cut? So what can I do to give the right answer where I'm not gonna be judged for? FYI, listen, people say Nancy plays politics, everybody plays politics. Guess what?
Starting point is 01:12:04 You play politics? I want the person playing politics. Everybody plays politics. Guess what? You play politics I want the person playing politics to go to Armenia. I want the person playing politics to go to Taiwan I want this person playing politics to go to the border. So you don't want to go to the border Guess what they brought the border to you Did you see all these people coming off the bus in front of our house? Would you think about that when you saw that would come out? I love that I mean if you stand by those policies of your sanctuary city Why wouldn't you welcome these people in and provide for them? But I think in Martha's Vineyard, they actually deported them with the National Guard
Starting point is 01:12:31 Like how can you say you pro-sensuality? But if you do as soon as we see you some because I know these border cities in Texas I think they overwhelmed so if you are if you're a sanctuary city and you stand by those policies Why wouldn't you welcome these people in your communities your neighborhoods and help them just like the red states are doing or like Florida's doing. I mean, one state can't take but so many immigrants into the country before they you know become overwhelmed. I and did you hear when they said Martha's Vineyard isn't prepared like the southern
Starting point is 01:13:03 border of Texas is for these number of migrants and they're like what are you talking about? It's like 50. You got 50. They got two million. Oh, Bob has got plenty of room. Yeah. And then they say, watch open your place to let them, you know, stay a little bit like,
Starting point is 01:13:17 I don't know about that. We're not going to respond to that one, you know. Hey, you can take some in too, right? But so question for you. I don't think what DeSantis did is all good or all bad. Meaning there, like with everything we're discussing, by the way, whether it's Pelosi and I got a respect to Pat right now.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Yeah, we're so easily vilified. She is way more presently than come all on by. But they don't add things like this on TV on Fox Ocean because you can't politicize it. You can't use it to earn votes. It's not a non-story to everybody. What is it? Armenia.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Oh, the Armenia story. No, I'm talking about Martha's Vineyard. On one side, it's good for DeSantis. He needs to stand up and draw attention to what the hell is going on at the border. And he's kind of trolling the Gavin Newsom's of the world, the commas of the world, the Obama's of the world. And on the other side, you kind of have the left saying,
Starting point is 01:14:10 listen, he's just playing politics here. Basically, he's using immigrants as political pawns, essentially. And then if you're in Florida, these are Venezuelan, a lot of people, what they sent, I think we're, there are 50 people, Tyler, they are all Venezuelan. Venezuelan.
Starting point is 01:14:24 No, I can't tell you how many, I mean, I'm born and raised in Miami. How many Cubans of Venezuelans are just, they've come here basically looking for a better life. What's your point? What's your point when you're saying is that? The dentist is right and wrong. What I'm saying is that it's not all right or wrong.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Why is it wrong? Tell me why it's wrong. Okay, well, if you're in Florida, okay, and I assume that, you know, that the Santas is running again for the governor of Florida, my question is, could this backfire? I happen to think that he's gonna beat Charlie Christ handily, right? That's just running against. He don't beat it.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Okay, correct. However, if you're Hispanic, and you see, you know, and maybe you're undecided, because again, Florida's a purple state, it's not like it's, you know, and maybe you're undecided because again Florida's a purple state It's not like it's you know 70 30. It's kind of closer to 55 45 Is this something that a he's panical look at and say yeah, that doesn't sit well with me again We're in South Florida. We're in Florida. We're in Miami. Could this backfire no because the guy's running for This guy's running for president
Starting point is 01:15:22 Yeah, you know, but he needs to win governor for it. totally get that. The crisis, you think Charlie Chris is like, it's like you're thinking like a, anyways, okay, everybody's, I'm already one subheading. I'm with you, 100%. I think the San Diz is gonna be a Chris. I get that. So did he need this?
Starting point is 01:15:35 But here's the part. But this potentially, let me explain to you what this does to America. Okay. For two years, how long has Kamala and Biden been the president of VP? How long has it been? Two years. Two years. For how long have the people been asking for her to go to the border and she's the border
Starting point is 01:15:53 Sayzar. How long Zar? How long has she gone to? How long have they been asking for this? Two years? Has she gone yet? No. Well, guess what? If you don't go to the problem, don't worry. I'm gonna bring it to you. And America says, thank God for Balsey leader like that to put them in the corner and say, what are you gonna do about it now? What are you gonna do about it now? Let's see how you're gonna react to it now. Now, they were not expecting this.
Starting point is 01:16:17 They've lost their minds. DC, Martha's vineyards, they've lost their minds, Chicago. They don't even know how to handle a situation like this They didn't win for Chris exactly that was the whole point while DeSantis. That's why the governor of Texas date But they did y'all about immigration Until it's on your doorstep. They just want to show the hypocrisy of the Democratic party
Starting point is 01:16:40 And that's a lot of Democrat voters don't see that hypocrisy and that's all on air for everybody to see But I do think a lot of people are starting to see it though But remember not you don't need 50% to flip. Yeah, I do think there is a 5% yeah, you need to be a person I do think there's people that are sitting there saying well babe Did you see that kind of does make sense look at the way they're reacting you calling the what they calling the reserve They're called for 50 people and these guys are dealing with two million look at the way they're reacting. You call in the, why they're calling the reserve, they're calling for 50 people and these guys are dealing with two million, look at the pictures. They're not even saying anything.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Even on 60 minutes, even everybody on the left, these are on the left. They're asking them the questions about the border and come all I can't even answer the question. I don't know, I think we got a problem here. Yeah, Trump's a racist xenophobic. Now look what they're doing. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:17:20 A xenophobic racist is just opening up people's eyes. Well, that's why the Republicans are being better politicians now is in Texas and Florida. In the B of the other politicians, you gotta be two steps in front of your opponent. Yeah, so. And FYI, for you, Adam, you gotta know that, Florida doesn't have illegal immigration
Starting point is 01:17:39 as much as Texas and California and Arizona does. So you've born into people that come here, immigrants are dying to be here. Well, Cuban refugees and rap, so I've seen it in my whole life. And I'm not saying folks on the other side or not, they're also going through a lot of sacrifices. I've said this many times,
Starting point is 01:17:55 if I was somebody that's living down and I'm seeing what the mafia is doing and I'm living in Mexico and some of these cities, I'm also gonna figure out where to come up and bring my kids here, even if it calls my life, I'm doing that. But that's not the point. The point here is that it is a different situation.
Starting point is 01:18:10 I love the fact that he's bringing a problem to them and hey, how you wanna react to it? People have to. Let me pose a different question. Yeah. Okay. Do you think like you're an immigrant, okay? You were not born in America, right?
Starting point is 01:18:22 You guys were born in America, okay? My family, Russian immigrants that fled basically the Bolshevik Revolution in, you know not born in America, right? You guys were born in America, okay? My family, Russian immigrants that fled basically the Bolshevik Revolution in, you know, 1917, whatever. But do you think immigrant, like I feel, I wholeheartedly believe that immigrants should be propped up and appreciated more than they are. I don't know, I'm saying left, right? You came through the front door.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Your family came through the front door. He came through the front door. These people not coming through the front door. Correct. And that's my point. But I guess my question is do you think that we're villainizing these immigrants when they're looking for because when you come into a country legally, you are automatically a criminal. Like we had some shows coming to shows in London. Avisa wasn't right. They're residents. They had as an immigration in London. Who was it? Immigration jail in London. They four sold out shows. Yeah. I was divided. We couldn't talk to each other. Had us in cages. Yeah. Literally. In London. How long was this? This was a couple years before the pandemic. Got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:17 So all borders should you should not have an open border and the way they let these people in, I'm all about people coming here. If they're fleeing crime, things of that nature and they come in and say, hey, I'm running, I'm being persecuted in my own country and you come throughout back door to way they're doing, I'm all for that, but a majority of these people are just coming here because they just want
Starting point is 01:19:40 a better life and I'm under the understanding that you don't fit the parameters or the proof Wekwitz hits of even coming into our country to sick asylum. You don't sick us. That's But by the way, I want to read you a Hillary Clinton said about this whole situation Hillary Clinton says Martha's vineyard situation is literally human traffic and no one wants open borders on Friday Hillary Clinton agreed with an MSNBC morning Jehovah's Assessment that ascending a 50 migrants to Martha's Vinears was human traffic. And she added that nobody wants open borders
Starting point is 01:20:10 who has any idea of how government and countries work, but nobody wants inhumane terrible treatment of human beings either. What we should have been doing is to come together to reform change and better fund the system by which we deal with these issues. But some people like Governor Abbott of Texas would rather have an issue than be a part of the solution.
Starting point is 01:20:30 I'm sorry, Hillary Clinton. How about holding Kamala accountable to go into the border? They were doing the same thing before that the Republican government start doing it. They were doing the same thing. They were flying high. You made a great point. You think we villainized immigrants and we're using them as political pawns. That's a great point, but the Democrats have been using them as a political pawn the entire time. That's how we got here. That's how we got here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:51 I told you understand what you come from. They already political pawns because most of these people should have been turned, turned away before they even get here. You can't even come through from, from what I might be wrong in this, but if you seek an asylum in a country, you have to first apply to the country you enter and then you progressively get to the United States. A lot of these people are breaking all kinds of international laws. We lived in Germany at a refugee camp for a year and a half before we came to the States. Literally at a refugee camp in Germany for a year and a half, and then we finally, the day we got our green card to come here man
Starting point is 01:21:25 We were doing back flips. Yeah, when we knew we're gonna be coming here It was like the happiest day of my life November 28th 1990 is when we came here, but I will never forget that day Never I'm telling you never Oh, it's you me what his family. Yeah, came here. He was born. Oh, you was born. Yeah. Oh, you're lucky You I know I know yeah Yeah. I'm like, I know. Two, yeah. I'm very lucky. Just real quick, look what happened.
Starting point is 01:21:48 I think he made a good point that it's all about the message, right? That's what you said. Everything is about the message, right? It's not very often I do this, but I have to agree with that. I mean, that two wrongs don't make a right. I understand 100% what DeSantis did. I get why he did it. The backlash he did, he's proven their hypocrites, everything.
Starting point is 01:22:03 But now look at how this is being flipped on him, right? Now now he's the human trafficker nobody gives a shit that they've been flying illegal immigrants to 49 states across the country to flip him nobody cares who does he have to win if he wants to run for president the suburban women right what does suburban women look at and say when they see this we're to ronda santis is a horrible person this is a very Trumpian move of him and he has to be careful because he's playing with fire. Yeah, they like that. That's a those are those women. They love noose. Right. Well, no, you're absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Gavin Newsom could be present in 2024 because nobody pays attention to policies anymore. Right. It's a popularity. But I think for most of us clearly look at a OC. Yeah. Yeah. I think for the most part, when they say human trafficking, it's not human trafficking. It's that's how perberally
Starting point is 01:22:45 You know, it's all hyperbole. Yeah, nobody nobody's gonna look that far into it Nobody's gonna take it. Yeah, I know most people don't you right and listen I get what he did and I think it's great I the idea of it is great, right? I agree with it But he has to be very careful because he's playing with fire and he's giving them the message What's the alternative though? Well, let me me ask you a question. What do leaders do? You guys want a bunch of panseys that are marketers? Yeah, but this doesn't what does this do this doesn't solve a problem Let me tell you if I'm on the southern border. I'm sitting there saying thank God he did it any any one of my state
Starting point is 01:23:16 Now I want a leader bro. I don't know what world you guys are living in. I'm not trying to get a If you want to get a CMO as a president, you're not looking for the right guy. The same to saying the CMO. You can get a, you know, a lot of different people to be that job. You want a leader to be the president. Have the reason why the mess is taking place right now with Ukraine, potentially Taiwan,
Starting point is 01:23:37 that could potentially happen soon, is because a nobody afraid of America today. So I don't mind that he's flexing his muscles. By the way, FYI, you have to understand this other part. There is risks to you choosing to be a leader. There is risks. There's risks to you showing that you're a true leader. There is a very risk to you being a tough father.
Starting point is 01:23:58 There is risks to you being a high expectation type of a dad. There's risks to you being a guy that expects a lot from people. There's my kids are going to baseball. My son is going to baseball practice right now. And this place is going, I'm standing on the sidelines just watching to see how these guys coach the kids. And I see, hey, you don't come out here. You don't do this, run two laps.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Hey, well, five push ups. Hey, you dropped a ball, five push ups. Hey, you don't do this, go run over here. At the end of the two hour practice, these guys are sweating. You know what I said on the sidelines? He's in the right place. These are real coaches coaching these guys.
Starting point is 01:24:28 They're tough. No, listen, at the end of the day, I don't care about optics. I want a leader today. America is desperately looking for leader. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not telling the centers to go on a podcast on smoke weed to win some people that are going to vote for him. I'm not telling you that he he's not gonna be doing that.
Starting point is 01:24:45 I have your respect on for that. But the fact that this guy's got the audacity to go out there and do things like that, he's showing I can help solve not only Florida's problems because people track record wise, give me one governor's resume. FYI, did you just see what just happened? Let me just give you guys a stat here.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Does anybody know who just broke the record for the most money ever raised by a governor in the history of America? It's a guy named the Santas. So he just broke the record for the most money ever raised by a governor in the history of America. His name is Ron DeSantis. How does that happen? People from other states are supporting this guy. They ain not even in here. People from other states So if a guy is going to take a risk like that I'm for you taking risk because quite frankly too many people on all the other sides are playing their way too safe I want a real leader today. I want a real leader that's going to go out there
Starting point is 01:25:36 So let's let's continue this conversation with a new some call out on what new some just said so new some just came out and set the Following which is on page four. Newsom, okay, California Governor Gavin Newsom, challenges Florida Governor, Ron DeSantis to debate. This is a CBS story. On Friday, Newsom tweeted, if you want to put it up, and zoom in a little bit, the tellers that we can see this. Hey, Ron DeSantis, clearly you're struggling, distracted, and busy playing politics with people's lives since you haven't only overriding need, attention. Let's take this up and debate. I'll bring my hair gel and you bring your hair spray, named the time before Election Day
Starting point is 01:26:13 and he tags CNN, right? So he puts this tweet and then on Thursday, Newsom called for an investigation into Republican governor sending busloads of migrants of Democratic states to protest the Biden administration immigration policies in a tweet Newsom specifically called that the Santas and Texas governor Abbott over their cruel policy of busing migrants out of their states to cities with Democratic mayors as part of a political strategy. Do you have the Santas' response? Did you find that one or no? So when you saw this what was your first reaction when you saw new
Starting point is 01:26:46 some sadist adam i think this is and tell two cities basically best of times worse of times i mean this has been kind of coming this way for a while where basically you have i mean you have the free state of florida lock down state of california you have the two two figure heads whether you like them or not these are basically you know the uh... gen x version of the current presidency right now. They have Biden and Trump in their 70s.
Starting point is 01:27:12 It binds about to be 80. Here are two guys in there. What? DeSantis is what? 44? At the oldest? How old is Nusom? He's late 40s.
Starting point is 01:27:21 I think this is on the upswing. And I think basically we've seen a lot of Recruiting I think didn't dissent is put up a massive Outdoor billboard basically calling out dissenters. We have two governors calling each other out right and It remains to be seen when I'd love to see this debate. I'd love to see this debate I think the whole world is a presidential debate if you ask. But go ahead. Newsom is an opportunist. And I mean, it's like Vado or Rorke. I just like, like, when Vado, when the gun violence down in Texas,
Starting point is 01:27:53 he took a bank and that caused his run for governor. He has presidential grains and he's an opportunist. And I mean that in the most negative kind of case, whenever he doesn't give a shit about any of this stuff, he just wants to become president. So keep talking, I'm choking. This is the beauty of having a twin brother looks just like you and have the exact same opinion. You can be choking your brother picks up the ball and goes with it.
Starting point is 01:28:14 And he's spending a lot of money that was donated to him, right? For these billboards? Because he doesn't have to worry about spending money in California, because it's just, you know, more joy that, you know, even though that whole state is red for the most part is San Francisco LA make that whole state blue. He does not worry about, you know, losing seats to, I mean, to Republicans because that state is just just blue from those two major cities. Why do you think the centus keeps getting elected even during the recall?
Starting point is 01:28:42 I mean, he was the mayor of San Francisco. San Francisco, that place has turned into an absolute shithole. Right. Then he becomes governor of California. We've seen what's going on. I think, you know, they have the first year ever Pat, correct me if I'm wrong, they had a net loss in immigration. People that move out of California, you know.
Starting point is 01:29:01 He has the recall. He beats Larry Aundor easily. I don't understand. How do they keep over this? How these election results come in? It's just weird. It's like how do Democrats have that much power in one state? Well, I mean, it's the most liberal state in the country. I'm not shocked. I'm not convinced that it is though, because when we do comedy shows out that people turn out there as if I'm in Florida.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Really? Yes. How recent? I mean, we have like, we're up in, um, I have to get that city. Baker's fill and the other. Well, the Baker's fill. Baker's these are, these are conservative cities. But with the California, a brand California,
Starting point is 01:29:36 like whenever we go anywhere in California, it sells out, I mean, fast. Yeah. Yeah. What's the population? I think there's 40 million people in California. I mean, there's going to be if one third of California is Republican. So you've got 15 million people that you can hear. Here's my thoughts on the Newsom. Yeah, go for the Sanctus debate. Okay, so for me, I could care less about being a CNN format. Newsom, here's my suggestion to you.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Choose a podcast format, go for three hours, okay? And do it this way. You come to us, okay? We will guarantee three hours, we'll guarantee minimum of a million dollars to both just to participate, to your campaign, we'll do a super chat, people will be able to call in, all that other stuff,
Starting point is 01:30:24 but it shouldn't be two minutes. Oh, stop. No, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, no, no, no, no, that's all I got. I want to see if Desantis, I want to see if Nuson can talk for 10 minutes with an answer, and I want to see if Desantis can give a long answer. So, what do you think about the issues that we're facing? And let it be a different kind of a format, you'll get the money's worth. I wouldn't go to CNN, I wouldn't go to Fox.
Starting point is 01:30:45 I would go to a podcast. Pick and choose a three hour podcast. A lot of people do it. Just the last week we broke the record for the longest podcast to go, you know, whatever it was for the week. We got five and a half million views on five million, five hour podcasts.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Got 200 million minutes watched on this one podcast that we got last week that went out on Tuesday or Monday. I don't know what it was. It was there, correct. Right after, I'd love to, if it's not us, choose somebody else, okay, pick somebody else. And, but have the sit down, because if you guys are gonna do the traditional way, I have zero interest in watching it.
Starting point is 01:31:18 I would love to see a bigger move in campaigns, like I'd love to see those guys sitting down with a rogan. Okay, sitting down over here, sitting down in a place where it's three hours, a good moderator, ask, challenge each other and let's see what it's going to look for. Yeah, any other four men is just disingenuous. It's not enough time. It's not given. It's totally fake. That's right. How can you have somebody, you have an open conversation somebody, but they're on your side, and they're just throwing you softball questions, don't you?
Starting point is 01:31:47 Yeah. You know, it's just, because I don't trust anything for the most part on TV, because you have to double check everything you heard. Yeah. And by the way, the cool thing about this kind of a format is, if you, if you tell a lie, the audience in the chat box, chat, but they're going to go off.
Starting point is 01:32:04 The live chat. Right. So versus when they're gonna go off, the live chat. So versus when they're doing it there, there's not, you know, everybody has to, but everyone's like, oh my God, did you know what they said? It's a very different format than a lot of these guys fear. They're not comfortable doing that. It would much rather be in a controlled environment
Starting point is 01:32:19 where they get to control the question. They come on a podcast, it's like a brawl. And but that's what America deserves. But this is what America deserves. Exactly. Why do you think podcasts are blowing up? Yeah. Why do you think there's such a yearning
Starting point is 01:32:30 for just three talks? Yeah. When we're contemplating putting the date out, the interview out, we're like, do we want to do it in like three segments? You know, I've heard. Back off, fuck it. Go the whole five hours.
Starting point is 01:32:40 We're like, okay. Yeah. And we didn't know what would happen. That's what that's like. But it's a yearning for just open dialogue and up without being filtered. And up two minutes, sorry, I gotta stop talking now. That's why Nusa would never come on this or any other podcast.
Starting point is 01:32:55 You can see the comments. You can see the, you can see everybody's commentary. Like when you go to YouTube and look at a botan video when he first got elected, even though he got over 80 million votes, all the dislikes, everything was more dislikes than likes, even on CNN or MSNBC's YouTube channel. What did YouTube do?
Starting point is 01:33:13 They did away with their dislike button. What are they hiding? He's got over 80 million votes. He's people gonna, if he's got 80 million voters, they should come out and stand up for this guy. That's why he'll never come on here. Cause it's gonna be in the comments. I have an idea.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Everybody's gonna see it. What do you think about a $100,000 gift card to French laundry? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha supply, eat there for the rest of your life, I'll cover the bill. Every time you go on to say, this is unpatriotic with David. This is unpatriotic with David. I have a theory on why LA or California keeps voting for the Gavin Newsom. And I realized this, this was a month or so ago, this was right around July 4th, where I watched, again, back to the, the Santas debate situation going on. The Santas did his whole, was it TopGov, or was basically right when the movie TopGov came back out, you know, he kind of did his whole thing. You know, I gave it a C plus, it wasn't exactly like, it didn't wow me, but I get it,
Starting point is 01:34:19 it was doing this thing. Okay. I kind of thought he used the top gun in his kid. I mean, he was a lawyer in the Marines or in the Navy, right? He wasn't actually in the Navy. Let's get fucking real here, right? He wasn't a Marine. I had to give him a C-plus and then I saw what Gavin Newsom had to say on July 4th.
Starting point is 01:34:41 And it was the most scripted, plastic, Hollywood, manufactured, non-carrismatic thing I've ever seen and I'm not a California and I don't I don't follow Newsom like that yeah Pat falls at a lot closer because he much like you lived in California for 20 or 15 years it was full of ice and I was just like and I just gave to Santis and C++ okay great whatever this one commercial and then I saw Newsom's fake plastic bullshit. Huh, here in California, I'm like, can this freaking candle out of my face?
Starting point is 01:35:11 Yeah, it comes off like he's reading a telebook. But that's what I realized is that California is the land of plastic Hollywood fakeness. And they're like, yeah, that's exactly what we've embraced for decades now. And that's maybe why it just, ugh. It just gives me the American psycho vibes. Yeah, when you listen to a Democrat,
Starting point is 01:35:28 they sound a lot like Obama. You know the mannerisms he do, the smile, the hand gestures, and it's just, you've seen it so many times, even with Bill Clinton, he had that same demeanor tone. And when you look at the Santos or Trump, you can tell it's not scripted, it's just coming from,
Starting point is 01:35:45 you know, right here in the heart, the way he looked, the way he looked, the hand gestures, it's just everything just comes out so more genuine than you used to. Yeah, but yeah, brother, the new sum is no Obama or Clinton, okay? There are a hundred times real or the not to. And I'm not saying that they weren't, you know, playing politics, but new sum is in a fake category of his own, like I've never seen. Bring the hair gel, let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:10 PBD, yes, sir. Let's go into that Kim Kardashian story, which if you can pull up Instagram. We can pull up Instagram. Yeah, just read about that the other day. Did you see your Instagram post? That's a picture writer she posted and she said, I'm excited to be part of Hillary and Chelsea Clinton's
Starting point is 01:36:24 incredible journey to find out what it truly means to be gutsy. What? Stream the docu series now on Apple TV. You didn't see this? I didn't say this. Okay, so watch us go into the commentary, see what her audience is, 330 million followers. Look what they're saying about it. Bad, no yikes shaking my head, Nasis, no, what LOL sick.
Starting point is 01:36:49 That's a bummer, laugh of my ass off by, no pizza, gag, no sus. This ain't it. God, what are you doing? This is in there, but by the way, this is what's crazy about it. 100% of the comments I just read. Guys, this is, and it's not like Kim Kardashian is a Republican or a Democrat.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Kim is right in the middle. Her followers should be supporting Forbes International 2021 woman of the year. But they're not. So click a little bit more. Maybe this is just, I don't know. Maybe go a little lower and let's continue. So keep going. There you go. Look what I said. This was too, I forgot I commented here.
Starting point is 01:37:34 It looks like Hillary's 2024 campaign for presidency is starting early. She's in campaign mode. Yep. By the way, stay there. I fully think she is because you know what Bill Clinton just did. The last time he did his, you know how he does his event every year.
Starting point is 01:37:47 You know the Bill Clinton event, he does every year. Global initiative. Global initiative. Initiative thing, you know what's the last time he did it? You know what's the last time they put the event together? 2016. 2016 and they just brought it back up in 2022. This woman smells opportunity for being a president and she's using her not in a negative way.
Starting point is 01:38:06 This is being plain politics. She's bringing Chelsea along to not only get her more eyeballs because she's wanting to run, but to also connect with the younger audience and they're going to places like this. The other day, she did another podcast with somebody young, I don't know who it was. But anyways, I think she's campaigning right now.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Look at the next one. 100% you kidding me? This is a dream of hers to be a president, hard past, unlike how much they pay you. How much they pay you? Well, now we know more about you. Kim, no pizza. Kim, did you ask the pansoot what happened
Starting point is 01:38:39 to those 33,000 emails? And again, going back to it, you would think 50% would support this, but 100% doesn't support this right here. Look at that. I actually get on the comments too. Exactly. That's the big $2,000, $5,000, $3,000.
Starting point is 01:38:54 So what do you think about this when you see this? Is this a, who wins here? Does Hillary and Chelsea win here? Does Kim Kardashian win here? They all lose. They all lose. That's like me and Q sitting down with Mitt Romney or Dick Chains. You wouldn't do it.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Hell no. They could pay me $10 million. I'll never tell you. Come on. What's happening? All 30s people are tone deaf. Yeah. Cause my brand is all about your reputations.
Starting point is 01:39:17 It's all about what you did in your last video. You could lose that like that. I have an idea on why I think she did this. Yeah, please explain it to me. I have no idea. So, okay. Now now stay with me here. She was just on the late, late show with, James Corden, right?
Starting point is 01:39:32 And she said, you know, if I'm gonna be about in the dating, you know, seeing, I wanna date a lawyer or a scientist or something like that. And by the way, I'm actually a fan of hers. I think she's, you know, their family are great marketers. They know how to tell the story and all this other stuff. Of course, the way, you know, everyone knows the story, the video, all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:39:50 But go back to the picture, go back to the picture. Here's what maybe, let's speculate. Who did she just get a divorce from? Kanye. And who would he, would Kanye ever do a podcast with Hillary and Chelsea? There you go. If Kanye was to ever do a podcast with Hillary and Chelsea? There you go. If Kanye was to ever do a podcast, he would do it with Ron.
Starting point is 01:40:08 So you're calling Kim a troll of the highest order. I'm calling Kim is really trying to get under Kanye's nerves because behind closed doors, I'm convinced Kim knows Kanye cannot say it's lately. So I don't know. I may be wrong, but I think you're absolutely right. I think you're right. I think you're absolutely right. I think you're absolutely right. I think you're absolutely right. I think you're absolutely right. I think you're absolutely right. I think you're absolutely right. I think you're absolutely right. I think you're absolutely right.
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Starting point is 01:41:00 I don't know. Chelsea, who acted as the official quizer, first asked a question about the use of deadly force Kardashian, buzzing quickly before expecting answering inquiry after a few more rounds of inquiries. Queries, we see Kardashian beat Hillary Clinton to a bilansat slide, 11 to four. The former presidential candidate later told the publication
Starting point is 01:41:18 that it was quite a humbling experience. Oh, it was heartbreaking. Well, I was also really intrigued by how well she did. I wanted to put the spotlight on her, not that she needs it, but she worked really hard. Okay, so there's something going on there, but if you see more and more of her, I can tell you for a fact, which podcast
Starting point is 01:41:37 she's not gonna be doing. I can tell you for a fact where she will not go. You ready? She ain't going to Zachagdala for an act. It's a no for way too firm. It's way too firm. It's a big go into that box. She says, we have to take a break for our, what is it, our sponsor. This is Donald Trump. Do you remember that when the middle of it, he plays a Donald Trump, I'm Donald Trump
Starting point is 01:42:00 and I endorse as much as like why would you do He's the he's the ultimate troll can you pull up the dissentist story of Yahoo What I just said earlier? I don't know if you have it or not when I said the sentence about to break a record for the most money raised If you can find this article there watch this you're floored around the centers on the cusp Raising more money than any governor ever. Okay, ever. See, that's huge. That's huge. So this is the talking to a guy that's,
Starting point is 01:42:32 you know, you're talking to a guy that everything he did, the anti-gay law, that was risky, the allowing people to play, that was risky, the no mask needed, that was risky, the going after the teachers, that was risky, the what he did with Disney, that was risky. The no mask needed, that was risky. To go on after the teachers, that was risky. The what he did with Disney, that was risky. That what he did to remove the tax benefits of Disney world. That was, do you know how much risk this guy is taken
Starting point is 01:42:54 in the last two, two, three years? And every time he keeps coming ahead, I talk to a, how do you describe it? We can't say the name, just so you know, so don't say her name. Is this a big actress or not? The Hollywood, how big would you say? Top 10 female actress?
Starting point is 01:43:14 Of all time, okay. So her and I are communicating with each other. I said, I'd love for you to come to Florida, okay? I'd love to break bread and I'd love to potentially, and we follow each other's content, she follows me. She said I would never come to Florida Why won't you come to Florida? You want me to come to Florida to see what the Santas did to the state of Florida? She's been real she wasn't messing around about not wanting to come to a place like this so to to California Florida's like a reckless state to be in for people people who live in Florida, let me tell you,
Starting point is 01:43:46 people love living in Florida, okay? There is no disputing that. Of course, you know, there's gonna be some of our friends that will Nikki Fried will come here and say, there's people that don't wanna be in Florida, but there's a lot of people that love being in the state here. Yeah. Florida.
Starting point is 01:44:03 So are you guys planning on staying where you're at? Is Nevada gonna be a place to be a long term? No, let's turn it to a shithole. California's coming over. We're looking at Texas or here in Florida. Florida, here in Florida. Well, if you did come out here to Florida, we would probably do a lot of stuff together
Starting point is 01:44:17 if you came down here. Yeah. Can I sell you on Florida for one minute? Yeah. So what do you like about Texas over Florida? Tell me the difference between Texas. If you go to Texas, where would you go in Texas? Would you go on?
Starting point is 01:44:27 That's Cowboys. But that is Cowboys. Are you really? But I mean, Texas real property Texas is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean Florida is great, but we're just eating at Wendy's and this freaking lizard came out.
Starting point is 01:44:40 Yeah, there's lizard everywhere. And it's just sitting there looking at it. Yeah, that's the one. It looks like a Dental Moto dragon What the hell is going on? They don't attack you. They don't do anything. They want us. They don't do nothing They get to come out and treat us. What the fuck These are lizards on steroids, bro. They won't do It's got all these colors right there. That's the guy
Starting point is 01:45:04 Wind is and this fucking company. No, these guys look scary, but they're soft. They won't do nothing to you. They won't do nothing. So why else do you like Dallas? Why, what else do you like about Dallas? Cause by the way, Dallas is both of these, you choose in top two.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Okay, I would probably put Nashville in it as well, but why Dallas over Florida? Well, it's like, think of you right now. Are you guys 50 guys 50 right now? It's not one or the other. Yeah. My wife loves that was almost a deal breaking to you explain it People live in Florida. They got Komodo dragons in this thing You got dinosaurs running around Komodo dragon eat a goat
Starting point is 01:45:40 The feet and legs and all that's like you got these two big buff dudes I live builders. I live in LA for 20 some years Really? Minus the time I was in a military. I was in Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina And then we moved the insurance company to Dallas, Texas and it was an Addison text still till today It's an Addison text. I lived there for five years in Plano. It's a great city Plano kids went to school their phenomenal place to live in. But then to me, there's a lot of parts of California I love. There's a lot of parts of Texas I love. If California
Starting point is 01:46:13 and Texas were to have a baby, it would be Florida. Okay. So Florida has the best of both worlds of those two places. Right. If you want to do the, you know, water, if you want to do, oh, shame, if you want to go on the boat, if you want to go, big sports town, big, you know, it's starting to get a massive hub in Miami where people, business, people are moving down here. Obviously, you got the best governor right now that's in town doing what he's doing. And Texas is a bigger target for folks from the left and Florida. So the, the, the San Santis is gradually recruiting a lot of people. So I've been telling a lot of friends that,
Starting point is 01:46:47 you know, went to Texas, I said, it's a pit stop. They don't worry about it. I'm about two to five years to be down here because you'll see what's gonna be happening. So, but if you guys do come down here, man, we'll be doing some stuff together. Florida is a very, very different type of a place. I love Texas, I love California, but I'm in love with Florida.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Hopefully it'll stay this way. Anyways, okay. So let's see what else we got here before we wrap this up because this is so far been a blast. So, um, pop pop pop pop pop. I got a fun story. You got to come with me. I got two comedians here. So, so I want to, so let me do this. Let me do this. Why don't we just play this part, though? Why don't we just play this part? Okay. Her estate, okay, her estate the crest and piece what she did Okay, and who she was to the country, but I never understand that whole king in clean. How did they earn their money? How did they earn their money? Yeah generational wealth tax free like this is true generational wealth Yeah, but who decided they was gonna be king and queen. It's just that's the structure of it
Starting point is 01:47:43 The monarchy that's the monarchy. That's the monarchy. So Iran used to be like this. So sometimes people don't like the fact that they're too rich and they have too much money, which is a very valid point because they can say why do you need to have so much money? So for example, okay, they talked about our stamp collection. How much do you think our stamp collection is worth?
Starting point is 01:48:01 Stamp collection, okay. It's gonna be so damn worth. They think about $500. I was like, what are you doing? What are you, what are you, what are you, what are you, what are you, what are you, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:48:10 Stamp collection. Just take a while, yes. Well, I say $1200 cause inflation, you know. Okay, $1200, instead of $500, what would you say? Uh, uh, uh, stamp collection over under $10 million. Okay, $136 million. What the, is the stamp collection? But you're five hundred dollars.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Look at it. It was a little low. Stamp collection, $136 million dollars. Okay, stamp. Yes, stamps, stamps. She was saving stamps. Dude, she has a stamp collection of $136 million dollars.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Next one, how much was her real estate portfolio by the time she passed away? Oh, man. Real estate portfolio. She got $136 million dollars. Yeah, he's spreading stamps. You better go north and that. Come on. Give me a number. Give me a number. Oh, you think I can come over the number that day. I'm a hundred million. How much? Four hundred million. I'm gonna show it to him and look at his facial reaction when he sees this. That's crazy. Ten billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Runaway. I'm not kidding with you. Ten billion. Car collection, a hundred million dollars. Okay. I can't. Yes. Car collection, a hundred million. So the stamps is worth more than the cars? Yes. Car collection, a hundred million. Horse racing, ten million. You know their art collection, which was 270,000 items, 7,000 paintings, 30,000 watercolors and drawings as well as manuscripts of sculptures, tapestry, furniture and carriages. How much do you think the art collection is?
Starting point is 01:49:26 You ready? $13 billion. And last but not least, she wore this a few times. I don't know if you guys remember when she wore this, okay? The crown jewels. It's called the crown jewels. The carat jewels. Can you pull up the crown jewels?
Starting point is 01:49:38 Just pull up the picture of the crown jewels. Not the price, just the crown jewels. Okay, crown jewels right there. That's the one right there. Just click on jewels. Okay, crown jewels, right there, that's the one right there. Just click on images. Okay, crown jewels, what would you say that is worth? I want you to actually guess. Didn't like you got it out of like a gumball machine.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Party city. 500 million dollars. 500 million dollars, what are you gonna say, Keith? I'll go with 500 million, fuck it. I'll go with two. Two. Just the same. I figured you'd go 501 dollars. I go with two hundred thousand. Just saying. I figured you go 501 million.
Starting point is 01:50:07 No, I'm just saying. Five billion for that. Stop. Five billion for that. You can get that at party city. Five billion dollars. It's crazy. You know what?
Starting point is 01:50:18 I don't believe in white privilege, but if it, white privilege did exist. This is it. I mean, this is like on a whole different level. Thank you for To have tied it all together No taxes on this five billion. I mean how do they earn their money like taxes from other people? I couldn't tell you I Well, you know you guys should know you guys were former count so you guys want to be
Starting point is 01:50:38 Kind of stuff you guys you should tell us I'm gonna be a king in a queen man. I hate to say this. Don't just look like he got kids in his basement I'm gonna be a king in a queen man. I hate to say this. Don't just look like he got kids in his basement man He looks like that kids in his basement. Well, that's how conspiracy theories get started Anyway, I started on today's part fellow family member prince. Yeah, what is it prince Albert? Yeah, that's not prince Albert. It's a hipstand hipstand Allen right? Yeah, it was that Albert who was that? I can't think of I don't know I think it was Andrew right? Andrew and Andrew Prince Albert as I think is a thing you do a different type of earring But I Prince Andrew might have been one of those kids. I've never understood how they generated Generated that much wealth like what are you talking about the English Empire the British Empire? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:51:20 What just called colonizing the fucking world? How the hell do you, what? So do you have businesses? Yeah, just stealing shit from other countries. Rapping India, raping other countries. I don't get you. I don't understand why any society would need a king in a queen. It's funny how they kept calling Trump like,
Starting point is 01:51:42 as you think he's a king, he's no king. He named his son, Baron, he's no Baron. And looking then the left, they just praised this woman and all this wealth and yeah. By the way, guys, what do you guys think about Kanye West? What do you think about him? Oh, it seems like a good fellow.
Starting point is 01:51:57 The most diplomatic non-answer ever. He's a nice guy. That's how you work. It took a lot of balls for a black man, especially with his reputation in the music industry and Hollywood, the GoC, Donald Trump, the most hated, supposedly a white supremacy. He went there and he got through all the bullshit
Starting point is 01:52:16 and he said, I'm gonna go see him anyway. Yeah. I mean, he's definitely a leader. He's not a follower by any strict. Didn't Steve Harvey go to that same meeting? I think Steve Harvey got to be the board as well. Oh yeah, black person go see Trump. Oh, you are a trader.
Starting point is 01:52:30 They lamb based. They did a nice Q2. Why do you ask about Kanye, Pat? Just curious, because for me, I mean, look, I'd love to sit down with Kanye, have a really long conversation with him because I think he is another one of those guys that's misunderstood.
Starting point is 01:52:45 And the quote goes, if a line could speak, we could not understand him. There's certain people that are lines that the average person cannot understand that someone needs to be able to get him to explain it in a way. Laman's terms were it makes sense to people, but the guy, he's not a regular guy. He doesn't look out. He has a very different lens on. Yeah, he got the people to put that one quote about slavery But you know a lot of things that he say
Starting point is 01:53:09 Can be taken out of context and and you know twisted around especially because he speaks in you know Metaphores and analogies you need to get like we sit down and talk to him when he says something You got to have him clarify what he just stated because he is a deep thinker. I think he's next level musical genius No doubt. I also think he's a tortured soul. He's gone through a lot of mental stuff anxiety stuff depression stuff Everything that that guy's dealing with there's no clear Kardashian to that can't be fucking easy. Yeah, that cannot be good on your mental health right now Christ is it true you guys had a little bit of a meltdown recently when news came out that they moved on lemon away
Starting point is 01:53:51 from prime time? Yeah, it was not a little bit at heart. I heard you guys took a very, a thick and hard man. How are you material? How are you recovering from that? I'll be okay. It'll be some other Democrat they put in this position.
Starting point is 01:54:03 I still have material, but I mean, all these people that was on I mean, everybody at CNN is getting fired or being demoted and it's like yeah Everybody's a good thing. Maybe maybe yeah, I think it's a very good thing because a lot of the lot of the Hosting commentators they had on those networks. They've lost a lot of credibility because how long can you keep saying that he's guys are white Supremes they they colluded with Russia that did this, did that and then over time and not they ever materialized it's like, yeah, you guys just a bunch of liars. Yeah, but there were just the face of it. The higher ups was telling them everything to say. Everything was on the teleprompter for them. They had a message for them and they had to stick with it and then when it didn't go wrong, they have fired
Starting point is 01:54:40 them because that whole reputation is tarnished because it's coming out of mouth. I mean until you dismantle in and start with new ownership, that place is dead for me. Yes, not even necessarily against Don Lemon and that other guy, this ball, Brian Seltor. Yeah, he was just reading teleprompos. He was just being told what to say and how to say it. I mean, it's not necessarily his fault that, you know, but, I mean, you, you, the figurehead of that organization and that broadcast
Starting point is 01:55:07 So whatever you say people going automatically assume that hey you're the producer you to write of this show everything is coming out of your mouth You approve of it. So yeah If it didn't work just to pay I think I think it's just a paycheck for them. Yeah, they were sacrifices But but but again, but you know, but you know how I processed that here, so I processed that. Adam, this kind of goes through question earlier about the whole vote. The way I processed this is if you don't,
Starting point is 01:55:34 if you start pushing the envelope to the point where you make no sense and you just gaslighting people, customers are gonna say, yeah, we're not about this man, change it up, we're not dummies, you gotta figure something out. And CNN is now having to change our entire business model because it's not working. Right. Customers are gonna say, yeah, we're not about this man. Change it up, we're not dumbies. You gotta figure something out. And CNN is now having to change our entire business model because it's not working. Right.
Starting point is 01:55:49 It's just not working. People are not interested in you gaslighting me 24-7, so change it up. Or else, I'm going elsewhere. And CNN's gonna be bought by somebody for pennies on a dollar like other businesses will go through. So this whole thing would Trump be in rate if they don't and died here more, they find anything good on him, these him and BCC saying in
Starting point is 01:56:06 it, they're going to lose a little more credibility because they just raided it was first time they ever. Yeah. Whether if you're ready to form a president's house, I'm surprised. Morning Joe is taking such a hard. I mean, I understand when the Trump went after his co-host. His wife, you know, I understand his wife. I totally get it. And when he goes and he said what he said about him, but I saw her, she got a face lips, her face was cut and bleeding. And he goes personal attacks. And that's why they're there.
Starting point is 01:56:33 It's an emotional argument going on. He does what they do to him. He does what they do to him. And they don't, you know, it's kind of like a guy that likes to put it on others, but doesn't like to receive it. Democrats love to give it. If you come back to them and play their game, they don't appreciate it. But morning Joe Scarborough was a representative
Starting point is 01:56:49 from Florida Republican conservative party guy. And he's no question about it. He's no longer a Republican. It's very, very hard. It's very, very hard for one to give their, give their, you know, what they lean in a situation that's coming up in a logical way when somebody goes after family. It's very hard to do that.
Starting point is 01:57:09 So no matter who you are, whether it's Megan McCain when Trump went after, you know, it doesn't matter what it is. At that point, loyalty is about blood. You know who is cool with going after each other's family, though, these two knuckleheads, they go back and forth, no problem, Keith, Kevin, they'll fight with each other. But I dare anybody try to divide these guys,
Starting point is 01:57:26 you would now want to get in between these guys. Can I make one last point? Yeah. You two guys, the cons of a brotherhood, we just sat down with Tate, his best friend is brother, Tristan, they're going nowhere. You look at Logan and Jake, I'm looking at you guys, I mean, I have a sister, I wish that I had a brother,
Starting point is 01:57:42 there's something to be said about having someone that thinks, Axe feels just like you, and that has your back. Nobody has what we have, not the Wayne's Brothers, not anybody. Wayne's Brothers, how do you break that down? What do you mean? I mean, you don't see the Wayne's Brothers
Starting point is 01:57:57 doing anything together. That brand was solid, man, he had to hit TV show, to have white chicks, but you never see them together. They can't be too close. They can. Well, maybe, maybe they are. Who knows? So what's the methodology with being brothers
Starting point is 01:58:10 and being twins? It's like, we're gonna do that together. I don't know. We are unicorns. We are very unique because a lot of twins when they are born, a lot of them hate each other. One ends up trying to kill the other or try to ruin the other person's level.
Starting point is 01:58:23 Can't handle all types of stuff. You know what it is? A lot of them being competition with one another. Me and my brothers never been in competition. When he was doing bigger and better things, like doing a spell and being all that. I had to say, you know what man? He was on the honor roll.
Starting point is 01:58:37 You know, sixth grade when you were killing and not spelling beat. Misspelling Almanac. He was on an honor roll. I wasn't doing none of that. I was doing all that. And you on an honor roll. Almanac. I wasn't doing none of that. I was doing all of that. You were rooting for him.
Starting point is 01:58:48 I didn't care. I thought he was white. So, but you know over time, you know, we just came close and close. We all would be in close. Yeah. I think I used to help you in the spelling bee, right? Shut up.
Starting point is 01:58:59 Almanac. Almanac. Almanac. ALMANAC. Allmanak. You know, that's about to stress. Oh, man, it's a bummer, man. You really tried real hard this time.
Starting point is 01:59:11 I thought he's bespelling, because I was insisting. You were in the room with him when they did that. Yeah, I was right there with my mom. It was like that. It was at school in the middle of the day. Everybody's friends. Everybody's school is in the auditorium.
Starting point is 01:59:23 We have an espelombe. This is a big deal. That's in the audience. Everybody's school is in the auditorium. We have an espelombe. This is a big deal. That's just big time. Right? It's about 150 kids in there. Yeah. Man, I was up there and I see my dad and my mom. I was like nervous, man, that was big time.
Starting point is 01:59:37 I made it to the top. And I made it always to the last two. And then they came to me. I said, oh man, like, man, I got this one. Hopefully he don't get his. I've already got this. By the way, that's a great name for a book. Okay.
Starting point is 01:59:51 People are like, why? And they're like, let me tell you the story about Almanac and what happened and how my life got started and where I am now. It's awesome. But anyways, man, this was incredible. Deodians obviously loved it.
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