PBD Podcast - The Man Who Found Hunter Biden's Laptop w/ John Paul Mac Issac | PBD Podcast | Ep. 170

Episode Date: July 11, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by John Paul Mac Isaac, Martin Cooper, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick to discuss the Hunter Biden Laptop story, the difference between capitalism and socialism, and much more... John Paul Mac Isaac is the computer repairman who found the Hunter Biden laptop. TOPICS 0:00 - Intro  3:27 - The history about Hunter Biden's laptop   22:25 - What John Paul Mac Issac doesn't want to reveal   27:58 - CNN doesn't want to focus on the case   40:00 - John Paul Mac Issac tells about his life after the Hunter case  44:56 - How social media controlling people's life   50:20 - Have conservatives stood up in this case?  54:05 - Do parents need to be responsible for the children's behavior?  1:13:30 - Elon musk and Twitter conflict   1:32:07 - Martin Cooper the inventor of the first telephone   1:42:29 - A network outage at one of Canada’s telecom giants has hobbled mobile and internet services around the country  1:48:50 - The difference between capitalism and socialism John Paul's legal defense provided by The America Project: https://bit.ly/3IrFyTw Buy John Paul Mac Isaac's book "American Injustice":  https://amzn.to/3c3oJSK Donate to John Paul's Give Send Go campaign: https://bit.ly/3ayb8Te Buy Martin Cooper's book "Cutting the Cord": https://amzn.to/3ItnJmW Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.   To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail] --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Here's the debate. You're upset. I thought that. I thought that. I thought that. I thought that. All right, episode 170. Happy 7-Eleven Day today, 7-Eleven. Oh, wow. Yes, it is. There it is.

And if we can turn that off, I think, oh, this is mine. OK. Happy 7-Eleven Day. We have a special guest here for you. Matter of fact, when he walked into the building, guys, everybody like held onto their laptops, it was like, you have to see this thing, because in the history of mankind,

I think we have to preface this properly, if you can set this up. In the history of mankind, go one more, the one I sent you, the link I sent you, I don't know if you got it or not. There's been many special laptops. Okay, zoom in. This is 40 years of history of laptops, guys. I mean, with how laptops changed the world.

Go down. Let's go through the first one. The first ever laptop. Go a little lower, little lower. Oh my god. It's a 1981 Osborne. The world's first truly mobile computer. Look at that. That's great.

I mean, listen, Max got nothing on that. Look at that system, right? They're just incredible, floppy disks. Right? First laptop. Go to the next one that's legendary. Then you got the 1983 grid compass 1101, the first clamshell laptop. Okay. Go to the next one. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Then we got the 1989 compact LTE compact LTE 286, the first notebook piece. I've seen Adam with that one before I think I'm gonna go some Miami he takes someone with them keep going keep going keep going it is pretty sick Then he got the 1986 Macintosh portable the first Apple laptop bam. This is I think by the team of

Wasney X team I think I think it was was the extreme keep going keep going keep going We got the 1991 Apple Power Book 100 series or revolutionary early laptop. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Then we got the 1992 IBM ThinkPad 700 a powerful and iconic laptop. But none of these laptops, Tyler, have the kind of influence that the other laptop, if you want to put it up,

this is the laptop of the century folks. And this laptop was brought to a shop by today's guest, John Paul Mack Isaac, 10 minutes before he's about to close his shop, he's just like, listen, I want to go home, I want to relax, I want to have, I don't know, maybe he's a green tea type of a person before I go to sleep. And then this man knocks on the door, he opens the door and he's a green tea type of a person before I go to sleep and then this man knocks on the door

He opens the door and he's gonna tell you the story who it was, but the world Once to learn about this laptop. There's about 95 channels that are not talking about it There's only one channel and a couple podcasts that are talking about it And we said, you know, why don't we reach out and bring them out to the podcast to tell us a little bit about this laptop So with that being said John Park Paul Paul Mac Isaac, it's great to have you on. Thanks for having me. Yes, you know, yesterday we were having a podcast prep meeting and Adam was concerned. His concern was if you were gonna wear that hat or not. Because for Adam who's never served before, he he would like, there's like an ass in, you know, little, little bit of respect you have for, you know,

military, all that stuff. Big time respect. that stuff so but anyways it's great to have you on here for people that don't know if you don't mind taking a minute given everybody or background and how the story came about with Hunter Biden's laptop well it was Friday night about 10 minutes before closing and Hunter came in with three liquid damage MacBooks and I can tell you for a fact that was not one of them. That is a photo probably part of a disinformation operation but we can go into that later. He showed up. One was by the way, just out of your study, is the actual laptops picture anywhere online?

No. So you never took a picture of it? No. You don't have a video of the laptop? No. I have the serial number. But you didn't take any videos or anything with the laptop. I wanted that thing out of my shop. No shit. You know, wow. It was number one priority was get it to the authorities so I could have some level

protection. Okay, so go ahead. I'm sorry. Keep, keep, keep, continue. So, he came in the 15 inch MacBook Pro had a bow, bite,iden foundation sticker on it. So I kind of instantly assumed, because his brother had passed away, I believe about a year before, that these were his deceased brother's laptops. Because a lot of customers come in and they want to recover their memories off of their deceased loved ones' devices. So it is a common thing. And I felt bad for the guy. And even though I was trying to get out of there, I was like, look, I didn't, you know, he's got three Macs, I would normally charge $200

for pop for data recovery. Let me see the severity of the failure. So I helped him out. One machine was a complete write off. The other machine just had missing or inoperable keys from liquid damage. So I gave him a keyboard and I showed him how to, that's how I learned his password.

So if there's any question on hacking, usually people that get hacked don't voluntarily give away their passwords in that process. John Paul, you're in Delaware, correct? Yep, Wilmington. Okay, so that's Biden country, so to speak. I live about 10 miles from Utah. And when he walked in, did you know exactly who he was?

Or guys, I know you're visually impaired. Where does that come into the play here? I didn't know who I was talking to until he presented the boba item thing. And when I was checking him in, at the actual check-in process, I asked him who he was. And he was like, Hunter. And then obviously you just knew exactly who that was right? Well, when he sarcastically said a Biden, when I requested his last name, because I think he just automatically anticipated me knowing who he was.

I then I was like, all right, and then the bow-bide and sticker kind of put everything together. But again, I never really cared what he looked like or who he was for that matter. This is in 2019. This is April 12, 2019. Got it. So I give them back the one machine. The third machine had some power issues when power on. So I had to take it in the back and check that one in. So I ultimately just created a bill that said data recovery for three max, and I hadn't gone through them yet, and 85 bucks, which is basically the lowest rate that I could charge somebody.

And because at the end at that time, I thought I was helping this guy who was inebriated, he looked a mess, and I thought he was in, I'm grieving. This is his deceased brother's things. So I didn't discover until I started doing the data recovery the following day that this was not his deceased brother's laptops, these were actually his. And then I saw a lot of compromising, a lot of embarrassing material on the laptop. But again, this was April 12th, there were 13th, 14th, 15th. So his dad wasn't running for

president yet. So, and I never thought he would because, when I was Joe, he was kind of declining years. So, I really didn't get afraid until about a couple weeks later, when his father announced his candidacy. And I realized that there's probably going to be a member on this staff or a secret service member that's going to find this piece of paperwork authorizing me to recover data from these three laptops. And if they know what's on those laptops,

then I'm the only one on the planet that knows about that behavior. And I thought my days were numbered. And if they know what's on those laptops, then I'm the only one on the planet that knows about that behavior. And I thought my days were numbered. So I needed to, when it became my property about mid-July, up three years ago, I knew that I needed to get it to the authorities, but I didn't trust local authorities. I didn't trust the FBI. Roger Stone was rated, I think, in January, the previous January. So I had definitely apprehensions about going to the FBI. So I went to the only person I really trusted,

and that was my father. And in September of 2019, on a car right back from a gunship reunion in Utah. It was like a seven hour drive back to Denver. And mom's asleep in the back, so I figured this is a good time to explain to my situation and my father. And I told him everything and not everything. He didn't want to know certain things for plausible deniability. But we both agreed that the best thing for him to do

was get him to paperwork, get him a copy of the drive so he could approach the FBI out in Albuquerque. And about this time my mom woke up and she made this statement, she goes, that sounds like the laptop from hell. So needless to say, she's pretty upset with Miranda divine for stealing. So on October 8th, after I mailed my father a copy of the drive and gave him all the paperwork or copies of the paperwork He went to the FBI field office in Albuquerque Where an agent refused to give his name kind of harassed my father Question motives question the legality of my the possession of the device and basically told him to lawyer up and get out of the device and basically told them to lawyer up and get out of the office. And this is the first time my father was career 31-year career colonel in the Air Force,

never asked anything from the bureaucracy, basically. And so he was a bit disappointed that all he wanted was protection for his son. So about a month later, apparently, it got the attention to someone because the FBI reached out to him in an effort to get a hold of me. We agreed and the FBI came to my house. I explained the situation in about beginning in November and about mid-Oven. And I presented them with some stuff I printed up because during this time time the impeachment hearings had started.

Now, there was whispers of it. It was getting close. There was now the big concern, sure, I'm fearful of my safety. I've definitely witnessed criminal activity on this device. But now there's an impeachment that's whispers of impeachment that's occurring over a phone call about the previous administration in Ukraine. And I had seen enough information on that laptop to know that there was a blatant pay for play scheme.

The Biden's made out like bandits during the 2014 Ukrainian conflict. And in my opinion, from what I had seen, President Trump had every reason to call Zelensky. Considering Zelensky. Considering Zelensky was created by Igor Kolomoisky, who was Hunter Biden's business partner. And when the Biden's could no longer protect Kolomoisky

and his billions that he embezzled during the Ukraine conflict, Kolomoisky did the next best thing. He made his own president. And he took his prize actor from his TV series or TV station and groomed him to be the president. Got him elected. So now he doesn't have to worry. First thing Zelensky did when he got elected was the privatization of Proff the Bank, which was Igor's Bank, he made that illegal. So you could have his bank back, have his money back and return to the country. So it was, to watch what's happening in Ukraine happen all over again, it's

scary, except this time we're sending 40 billion instead of 18 billion. John, what would you say if, I mean, if you couldn't even say it besides the, you know, Ukraine and all that type of stuff, what was the most disturbing thing that you saw that you, I don't know if you told anybody, but was there anything that would make you go like, oh my God, like he should be in prison for this 100%. I think I know where you're getting at. And there has been a lot of efforts

by a lot of individuals out there to metaphorically or not literally insert fake data onto this laptop. And there's a couple reasons why somebody would want to do this. They either want to get notoriety and fame for something that they have zero involvement in, or there's an effort to insert questionable material into a laptop that's in the possession of members of Congress. So if you wanted to punish certain members of Congress, then you have an excuse to say, especially if they received into copies of a drive that has this alleged material from an individual that may have put this in material on it.

And the other concern that we should be careful, like, Hunter signed a document. After 90 days, that laptop became my property. If there's another laptop out there that has 450 gigs of mysteriously discovered 80,000 images of this or whatever, that came from something else that was not legally acquired. So if you start to muddy the waters, and then we're expected to have something that's going to be admitted as evidence and

And hopefully trials that all occur in the next couple years We can't have that information be tainted and we can't have somebody throw it all out because somebody decided to run an operation to Lie about the contents of the data. So we have to be really careful. I didn't see any CP in the levels that people were talking. I saw a lot of inappropriate behavior with family members, and that's all I'm gonna talk about. Wow. Interappropriate behavior with family members. Okay, let me speculate.

I'm gonna to speculate. You can decide to say whatever you want to say. Speculative, inappropriate content with family members. So it would be drugs, it would be sex, it would be theft, it would be accounts, it would be what else it would be. I mean, that's what it's going to be. Outside of that, what else would be in there, right? Again, like I've always told people,

there's enough criminal material on that laptop. We don't need to make up anything. We don't need to find a dark place in our minds where we wanna believe that there's this evil that's on it. That's, there's enough evil on it. We don't need to make up. Who has the laptops now? Well, the FBI should.

They took it from me, gave me a subpoena and everything in a receipt. That was December 9th, 2019. If they've lost it, I have a copy. I still have the copy that I gave my father, which predates the copy I gave to Rudy, or Rudy's office, because I never gave it to Rudy. Did you sign off that you can never talk about

what's in the laptop? Did you say that to the FBI or no? The only thing I remotely said to the FBI, like that, was jokingly, when they were leaving. I was like, I was like, don't worry, Lads, when I write the book, I'll leave your names out. And that's when one agent turned around and said, in our experience, nothing ever happens to people

that don't talk about these things. So you and I was like, all right, I'm going to be quiet. So you've never told anything to anybody about the laptop? Well, not until I reached out directly to Rudy Giuliani's office. So when the FBI took possession of everything, my fingers were crossed because I was hoping, even though a lot of red flags occurred, they told me that if anybody or Hunter came looking

for it, I was to give him a BS story that it's off-site and give me a couple days to get it. I was immediately to text Agent Mike and he would return the laptop to me. So I'm thinking if this is evidence, how can I return it? And that's kind of where I started to feel like they cared more about the owner of the previous owner of the laptop and protecting them that it did about protecting me.

So, and of course, when the impeachment happened, and this laptop was nowhere to be seen, and it was admitted as evidence for the defense from the White House, then I was just like, okay, we need to go to another level here. So I sent my father and my uncle, who's also a retired colonel in the Air Force, to, I gave them enough material, basically the material I had printed up and tried to give to the FBI, but they didn't touch it.

They just gave me a subpoena when it all his stuff and then left. So they went out, knocked on members of Congress, their doors to get their attention, alert them. I even believe my uncle Ron sent a fax to the White House directly saying we have national concern, national security concerns, because not only for a pay for play, but just the amount of sensitive data that was being sent in the open, unencrypted, to private Ukrainian citizens. And this information included everything from the Vice President's travel schedule, all policies and procedures, economics, any discussion that the White House would have relating to

Ukraine was being sent to a private Ukrainian citizen that worked for a company that was employing the Vice President's son. And that is not cool. So, Joe Paul, it sounds like not only where you're fixing the laptop, you were getting in there. I mean, you were looking at, there was, and this isn't, I don't think, hearsay, there was pornography on there.

There's a lot. Okay, boom, there's definitely some smoking crack stuff going on. A lot. Boom. But then there's this Ukrainian business dealing stuff. Sounds like you went pretty deep into those emails. Yeah, absolutely.

When it became my property, and I'm thinking, somebody's gonna kick down my door, I'm waiting for it to happen. I'm trying desperately. I called him up multiple times through the month of April in May to come and pick up this. You called Hunter, you're saying? And no answer, no messages, nothing, no text, zero response.

Didn't come back. I sent him automated square payment requests. So he was, you know, 80 for you over the max, 85 bucks, ding. It was, there was no response whatsoever. Well, he responded the, so when I called him up, I wanna say it was like the 15th. When I was done with the recovery,

it was like the following Monday. Called him done with the recovery. It was like the following Monday. Called him up to let him know, hey, I recovered about 220 gigabytes of data. Go to Best Buy if you get a drive that's 500 gigs or bigger, that'll be more than enough. Drop it off, give me 24 hours and then I'll knock it out. So he shows up on the 16th and drops off the drive. So I know he's getting my messages. I know he's so he did come back to the truck and dropped off a drop off a two terabyte Western digital external drive. Okay. So, you know, if he has any doubt where where he was on that weekend, I can say that he was

at a best buy and his credit card should. But then he never came back to pick up. Yeah, that's when he asked me to bill him electronically. I said, is square OK? He's like, sure. And then he never came back in. So if you had multiple dealings with Hunter Biden, the first time that he showed up. Well, the first time.

And then the second time when he came to drop off the drive. And then after he dropped off the drive, zero response after that. After that. Yeah, except until his lawyer called me up on October 13, 2020, the day before the New York Post ran the story. So the eve of that, he called me up because I guess it's common practice for when your

story is going to go, you want to reach out to those involved, see if they have a statement. So he calls me up about 10 minutes before closing on that Tuesday. And it was like, yeah, my client left, laughed up with you. He said 2017. So I was like, oh, 100 doesn't remember. 2019, but I'll go with it. So I did what the FBI told me to do. I said, hey, normally we don't hold onto equipment that long, but I'll check in our Reclamation Center tomorrow,

and can you shoot me an email with your credentials? And so I know that you can represent, officially, represent the client, and he agreed. So I have an email saying, hey, I'm Hunter's lawyer. Thanks for talking to me tonight. So I was like, well, that's good enough for me. And then I immediately called Bob Castello, who was my point of contact at Rudy Giuliani's office.

And I'm, and he was also promised me that if anything ever hit the fan, called Bob Castello who was my point of contact at Rudy Giuliani's office. And he was also promised me that if anything ever hit the fan, I was to call him and he take care of my security needs. So I call him up and I'm like, I think I hit the fan. I just got a call from George Misaris, who's a hunter's lawyer. And he's like, that ship sailed. Go go and get some sleep. And nothing can be done.

It's the story's coming out tomorrow.. I'm like, okay, great the fact that George Miseras asked me on the phone. He said are you still at the backside of trolley square and That was like enough for me not to go home that night because I figured he knew he knew exactly where I was So and the story hadn't broken yet. I figured once the story was out, then I would be okay, because then I wouldn't be murdered. So unfortunately, watching the next day, watching the internet and mainstream media put a cabosh on the whole story and prevent the truth from getting out. And then the narrative is being replaced that I colluded with a foreign power to affect an election.

So that things start to go downhill rather quickly after that. So you would say, John, that there's definitely impeachable stuff on those laptops to get Joe Biden's compromise and his son should be in jail. I would rather us find a heart and Joe's cabinet to do the 25th Amendment. I just don't like impeachment. I did not want Trump to get impeached, not because I'm a Trump fan, but because impeachment, when it starts to be wielded as a tool for a political party

to just punish the guy, because they don't like him, as opposed to the tool that it's meant to be. That's dangerous. I mean, there's a reason why we've only had three impeachments. Well, it was something meant that was never supposed to be used. They weren't ever supposed to use impeachment. Yeah, it's like break glass in case of emergency. And I didn't like when I was young and I saw what happened to Clinton.

And I'm like, well, you know, I get it. Here's a part. Here's a part with impeachment. Builded what he did, fine. OK. And impeachment. Clinton is what I'm talking about. Set that aside.

What they claimed would Trump, for what? Russia never came out right. We got impeached. Why? Great. Set that aside. Every president at some point they talk about impeaching them.

The other party talks about impeaching. It's like a couple words that people like to use, you know, they like to use the name from the guy that was in Germany who, you know, World War II. Hey, that's huge, like Hitler tendencies, and they like to use impeaching. Well, let's set that one. The part that I want to know a few,

I want to know a few things from urine, and then I want to know some things about the whole situation. So number one, is there anything in the laptop you said that you've never told anybody? There's a couple things. And why haven't you told anybody? Well, I've never thought it was my responsibility

to tell anybody other than the authorities. OK, it's, and I get it. I never wanted to go to the media. I never wanted to go to the media. I never wanted to go to press. And I know why, and that's because I knew the media would focus on the sex and the drugs and not the whole sale of our state department for personal gain or the national security concerns or the embarrassment

that we will endure when all this comes out. I saw criminal activity. I needed to get this to the proper authorities. The proper authorities bailed. So I went to members of Congress, not directly, my uncle. And then when that didn't get any traction, I came out from the shadows because I was again scared. I didn't want to lose my business. I didn't want to be chased from my home. I didn't want, I wanted to have nobody know I existed. But I wanted the truth to get out. And then I realized the

only way that was going to happen is if I knocked on the door of the lawyer for the president of the United States and that worked. And you say members of Congress, I don't need names, but did you go to Republican Democrat, you're in Delaware, who'd you go to? We, my uncle and my father only approached members of Congress that were conservatives for obvious reasons. So you went to Republicans and you got rebuffed, they had no love for what you had to say, what happened. So, and I've had discussions with some of these individuals that were presented with this

information and I get it. I've had discussions with some of these individuals that were presented with this information, and I get it. During that, we're talking about February through June, July, of 2020. So there was a pandemic going on. There was also, we're coming off the heels of Russia, three years of Russia, Russia, Russia. Everybody is so paranoid of being caught up

in another conspiracy, jeopardizing the political embarrassment, and they have a good reason. Look at what happened with things like dominion. Conspiracy goes out there. Dominions change in all these votes around, and then they prove it's wrong. Now, dominion gets the file of $16.7 million or billion dollar lawsuit and go after all the people that got hooked into this disinformation, these disinformation employees.

And that's why I warned Congress again when there was an individual out in Switzerland trying to say he's found 400 and he's given these drives. We saw who's that, the young guy. He was parade around Congress going, I have a copy of the drive. He was parade around congress going i have uh... i have a copy of the drive he was on c-speed uh... for the name of the guy

yeah young kid so no republicans were even willing to listen to your stuff the the particular guard intercepted my uncle and my father and and never let them get past the door so let me go back let me go back to the question so i want to stay focused on this so there's a couple things you said that no one knows about that's only you, that you've kept to yourself. Are those couple of things like tremendously big than what the public has already been rumored

that was in the laptop or no? It's just a couple of things you just kept away from everybody. Well, again, I never felt like it was my responsibility to share that, no, that's not what I'm asking. What I'm asking is those things that you've kept to yourself are they much bigger and heavier stuff than all the other things?

Personally, yes. Okay. But for the country and for the purpose of why I gave it to Laplac, no, it's more of, through Hunter's behavior, I should have a fear for my life. Okay, so it's more of, I threw Hunter's behavior, I should have a fear for my life. Okay, so it's more speculation, Hunter would a minor than it is about linked to the president and what he did

with Ukraine or Diel's side deals, right? It's more personal, link to Hunter, not linked to the father. It's linked to Hunter. Okay, perfect. So let's set that aside, that's Hunter's deal and that he's got to go deal with. Okay, so those two things, the couple of things that you haven't't told anybody have you told that to the person you trust the most which is your father

Anybody knows it just you you're the Emperor no people I trust me okay, so what I would say to you is I probably wouldn't hang on to that because if you do you're not protected You know and I'm not I don't know if you understand what I'm saying here right now because if you're sitting on, I was like, you know, all of a sudden, let's put on suicide watch. That's kind of people get put on suicide watches. I had to make that video a long time ago. Yeah. Well, then you did make that video. Oh, yeah. What I was basically asking you about. Well, no, so you don't get secret. Yeah, like, like, I'm, I'm if I show up, I'm not going to kill. Yeah, I'm not going to kill

like a John McAfee. I am never gonna commit suicide just so you guys know Angel. You don't get in a heaven, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay, I'll just screw you that up. So a couple of things that you haven't told anybody.

So, okay, so the stuff that's linked on the other side. See, for me when it comes onto this, here's how I see this. And, you know, commentary from your end. So, at this point, everybody knows the media held that story back. They didn't want it to go up Twitter, you know, commentary from your end. So, at this point in the game, everybody knows. The media held that story back. They didn't want it to go up, Twitter prevented it, Facebook prevented it, everybody knows that. To the point where even Bill Maher called out,

Twitter and everybody else to not tell that story, and we knew that was gonna affect the election. Everybody knew that, but they kept it away. That story was going viral on Twitter in the first 30 minutes, whatever it was, boom, taking down. But even Bill Maher, who were big fans of Bill Maher, comes and says, what the hell are you doing? And even a John Stewart interview and Bob Eiger says, what the hell is going on with media that nobody trusts them, right? Okay. So you got two guys. By the way, I feel I'm not a guy that supports Biden style

of leadership. But for a father, as a father, you don't want to see your son go through By the way, I feel I'm not a guy that supports Biden style leadership, but for a father, as a father, you don't want to see your son go through that. It's painful. I can see that being very, very painful for the family, okay, from the Biden side. So whatever Hunter's done, you know, you're going to have kids. Sometimes your kids are going to do stuff that's going to be embarrassing, and that's not, you know, your responsibility. That kid is going to be held responsible based on the laws

and the guidelines that the state's offering, the federal office, he's going to be held accountable to that if they pursue him, right? But stuff that he did that has to do with the rest of the people that has to do with the voters and the people he leads, that's a different story. When everybody keeps saying Russia, Russia, Russia, you know what happened to a lot of Republicans

behind closers and impenetrains? You know what people said? Maybe this is true. And if it's true, man, what are you doing selling out America to Russia? I'm not okay for that. You know, even conserved behind the... If this is true, let me tell you, I'm not with it.

I know a lot of people that said, I'm not with it if this is true, and it wasn't true. But this is true, people are seeing it and no one's talking about it. This is when hypocrisy hearts these guys. Right here when you look at this article saying you fail. Bill Marblass Twitter for censoring post after bombshell report on Hunter Biden's laptop.

So I just want to Twitter right now. Can you go on Google right now and type in Hunter Biden laptop? Go on Google and type in Hunter Biden laptop. Okay. And zoom in a little bit so we can all see it zoom in zoom in zoom in. So go and click on news. Go and click on news. Yeah, news. Zoom in a little bit more. So New York Post center right Yahoo. Uh is just only covering what he said to his mom, which I think he called her a spoiled uh the seaworth right? I think yeah. Okay, next is what?

Washington Times, Santa Right, keep going or New York Post, Fox News, Fox News, right. Gazette, okay. So then go on YouTube, go on YouTube, and just go straight up on YouTube. Yeah. And type in, type in, go on CNN, YouTube channel. Just go on CNN. Okay. Just go to their channel. Click on CNN, YouTube channel, just go on CNN, okay?

Just go to their channel, click on CNN, right there, go to videos, go to videos, okay? Now go sort by recent, so go up, go zoom in a little bit so the rest of us can see, not popular, let's find the way it is. So zoom in the rest of us can see, let's look at titles. Okay, here's what January 6th, okay, man who said he was almost a school shooter, Okay, what's the next title something about Tucker?

Pregnant woman claims What's he talking about the West Side West risks failure and you crank keep going up? Okay, Steve Bannins coming up January 6th protesters GOP governor Comedians talk about pranking. Okay, NASA Republican voter rejects GOP Protester storm a presidential whatever Elon Musk may be on the hook soldiers this that's how far back now two days January 6th and that three days now This launch okay, so then type in 100 okay nothing with Chan coming out saying okay type in hunter Biden laptop

Okay Go hunter Biden laptop. Okay, So 100 Biden reveals new detail and 100 Biden investigation three months ago. 100 Biden under investigation one year ago. Trump pushing for special counsel a year ago. Stelter, this was Fox News biggest story last week a year ago. Stelter, this was Fox News biggest story last week, a year ago. USMF's the G- okay, now here's what I want you to do. Go up and type in January 6th in the, in the, in the same party put, put in, put January 6th. Okay, okay, so how many go? Two days ago, two days ago, three days ago, two days ago, keep going.

22 hours ago, three days ago, five days ago, ten days, hey, Mr. John Malone, if you're watching this, you say you wanna take CNN back to Ted Turner days, why don't you go read his book and see the last interview he does on how disappointed he is with CNN, this is exactly why. This is why when you claim, can you put John Malone's quote that he put up,

go to the article that he put up, this is the guy that apparently is who is, the new guy from Discovery that he's not the CEO because they brought a different guy that's the CEO. I think he's the owner of CNN. If I'm not, the article I sent you, yeah, so go to whatever the article is, CNBC, this is the one, okay, make it a little bigger

so we can all see it. John wants us one immediate discovery, getting rid of CNN would be the coward's way out. Okay, keep going up, let's read that one legendary quote he has in here, which I love Right there in a middle zoom in so everybody can see it. There's a place for CNN's 43 billion dollar combination of Warner media and discovery billionaire mogul John Malone to see and be seen a recorded in an interview that air Thursday I would like to see CNN evolved back to the kind of journalism that it started with and actually have journalists

Which would be unique and refreshing He told TVDP TV Pioneer long-time chairman of Liberty Media, which is a major shareholder in discovery. I do believe good journalism could have a role in the future, portfolio of discovery and time Warner, going to President Goldle-Law to read the next part on what he says, go a little lower. A coward's way out would be to Celsius and then

or spin it off and sell it, right? And then he's obviously talking about that we should go back to how journalism was. Well, John you ain't doing it Just so you know you are not doing it the American and by the way, we're not journalists here. We're podcasters This is a YouTube channel. None of us want to Columbia to be journalist. Did you go to Columbia to be journalist? No, sir. Tyler. Did you go to Columbia to be journalist? Yes, you went to Columbia to be a journalist? No, I do I do I do I say it because some people watching are taking it seriously. Did you go to Columbia to be a journalist? Yes. You went to Columbia to be a journalist? Nope, I do. I do. Say it because some people are watching. No, I certainly did.

You did you go to Columbia or no? No. None of us went to journalism school. I'm a military guy. I got it. I went into business. He was a comedian. He went into insurance.

He got into it. He's a comedian. That's what he does. He was on Def Comedy Jam funny guy. CNN, CNBC, MSNBC. Do your job. We are not journalists. Do your job. We want to find out what is going on here. You're losing credibility by not covering the story that needs to be told rather, you're only covering January 6th because you're

afraid of the guy that could potentially go run for office and that guy that could potentially go run for office, what's his name? Donald J. Trump, who is right now the Republican candidate, your fear is God forbid if that guy gets elected. If we tell the story, we're going to lose Biden. Here's a reality of CNN. What do you tell the story or not? Here's what you have to stop worrying about.

Joe Biden and getting reelected. So what are you going to do? Hurt his campaign? He's not running again. You can actually do what you did to Chromo and actually do some journalism and tell us what happened with Chromo. Good, you told us.

We wanted to know. We appreciate you being transparent about that part eventually. Took a while because some people have to oust it Would what happened with Chris Como then Zucker gets fired and Chris Como gets fired Andrew Como gets fired and it's all a shit show for CNN that you guys went through Hey, if you know Biden is not gonna get reelected, why don't you cover this story? You're already building up a new some anyways. Why don't you tell the story?

Why don't you tell the rest of us what's really going on? There's certain things we have access to we don't have 40 people that their job is to go to investigative reporting. We don't do that yet. That's not our job. That's your job. You do that professionally. Can you be a professional and fulfill Ted Turner's book and a vision that yet? Matter of fact, why don't you call CNN's book of the month? First book you guys all read is Ted Turner's book. Can you put up Ted Turner's book on what it was? They call me Ted or something like that. If you work at CNN, whether you support the organization or not, won't

you go read this book? Go listen to the audio book and see how we finish this book at the end. Every employee at CNN needs to read this book that came out 13 years ago. Everyone. I'd love to interview him. Every time we ask him, unfortunately, he's not doing too well. We do anything to be able to interview him right now. We would do anything to be able to talk to him because he was a visionary that started this.

He's the guy that did what? TNT was a TNT, TBS, Atlanta Valkyms, Atlanta Hawks, Atlanta, all this stuff. Everybody in the nation became Dominic Wilkins' fans because I said turn up. Everybody was following the oh With you know, Glenn is with Terry Pendleton with you know Kenny Lofton with you know the pictures millwood Glavin

We all became brave fans because of this guy Tell us the truth what is going on here? Stop playing damn politics. Do your job. We're all relying on you to do your job. This applies to everybody. And the only reason I'm specifically singling out CNN is because John Mulan had the audacity to come out

and say something like he's just said right now. Saying, hey, we got to go back to journalism. Great. We're going to hold you to it. We'd like to see what's going on. So how many of these guys have reached out? How many times have CNN reached out? How many times have Donald Leman reached out?

How many times have MSNBC reached out? How many times have CBS reached out? How many times has ABC reached out? For anything? How many times have you seen an email saying, we would like to come, have you on the show? Well, let me say on October 14 14th when i was out it so uh... the new york post in an accident when they had a copy of hunters signed authorization it

they forgot to blur out the mac shop name so people were able to google the mac shop figure out who i was in the attacks started instantly and so did the media attacks. I had five reporters work their way through a customer that was trying to leave the shop, because I had the doors locked for COVID restrictions and they just keep people out. And so they burst in, and then I didn't know

I was being recorded, and they kind of cornered me and secretly recorded me and then that got out and then I realized oh my god I'm not built for this at all. And that was my first experience with the press and they tore me to pieces. I talked to Bob Costello that evening he gave me some pointers and the next day I felt a little bit more confident and when I came back from lunch breaks, this was October 15th, I had CNN, Washington Post, and New York Times, in front of my shop.

I was like, all right, I'm ready for this, I'm going to just do what Bob told me to do, tell him what I told the FBI, because I can't get in any trouble if my story, which is the truth, is the same story that I told the FBI, you know, a year, almost a year at this time prior. And so I did. I told them everything.

And they didn't publish a word of it. It's like they were never there. And then the Washington Post reached out and that's, I wanted to bring this up. The CNN article from three months ago, what else happened three months ago? The Washington Post admitted that the laptop was real. And? The Washington Post admitted that the laptop was real, and the New York Times admitted that the laptop was real. So CNN came out with that little tiny, they snuck it in. I watched it happen, it was like late at night,

they just put out this little, little article, acknowledging that the laptop was real. And that was just to cover their bum. Yeah, and that. This doesn't work, this business model doesn't work. So there's two stories here. We're going to go back to some of the things to get a little bit deeper.

But this business model doesn't work. People are not dumb. You're not going to win like the CNN, just so you know. People know you're playing games and they don't like it. Tell this story. Tell us what happened. Tell us really what's going on over here. And then let us make a decision if it's real or not.

And it will go from there. But the business model they're taking is not going to be an effective business model long term. If you sell insurance, you sell insurance. You can't say, well, we're only going to sell insurance to such and such people. If you do real estate, you have to do real estate. If you don't real estate, the market's not going to favor you. If you do media journalism, you call yourself a journalist, well, then go do some investigative

journalism and do some digging. We're podcasters. We're just regular guys that want to see what's going on in the world because we're concerned about the future. Anyways, for me, it's more about the accountability than anything else. So since then, that this has taken place, has your business been affected? Are people still coming to your business? Have you shut down the business?'s going to you still living in

Delaware have you moved to Alaska what what how's personal i've gone uh... so initially the media did a great job of blocking the story so i had customers coming in but the people that had heard so customers would come in and they'd say why is there talk shit in front of your shop or why is there tomato smashed on the sidewalk or what's that sign mean? And I just was kind of lucky at that point

because I knew Polka, my customers, were liberal, and like most of the city. And that if they didn't know what I had done, then I was OK. But unfortunately, the words started getting out plus the amount of people that were coming into the shop without computers were starting to make me nervous because to the point where I had to fill out a domestic

terrorist threat report with Wilmington Police Department, I do want to say that I'm grateful for the Wilmington PD. They put somebody in front of my shop every time I was there for like about the three weeks that I would remain open until I had to close, because it was getting too dangerous. When you start to get death threats and the area codes are LA or San Diego or Seattle, you don't care, it's a free country,

people can rage and lash out whatever, cats out at bag, I mean, be a punching bag for these people, gets it off their chest, whatever. But when the area could started being 8.56 and 484, that's across the river in Jersey. That's 15 minutes down the 202 into Pennsylvania. That's when it started to get a little scary.

And then there were some interactions with some people that were not coming to my shop for service, they were coming to do me harm. So it was time for me to close up the shop. I closed the shop up November 2nd. I didn't go home. I was kind of told by an individual that was helping me that worked with my father and my father

worked briefly at the CIA. And he said that the threat level was getting really high. And regardless of the direction that the election was going to take, though, he was confident that the election was in the hands of Biden already that I needed to get out of town. Because there's a probability that my name's next to a checkbox that's waiting to be checked off. And it's not safe.

So I left. I went into hiding, bounced around, mostly in Colorado. When things started to settle down, I actually went to woodworking school at a local community college. Everybody out there was wearing masks, so I figured nobody knew who I was and probably nobody would, I tried to start a Mac business, but within the first hour that I put up a Facebook page, somebody was like, don't trust this guy, he'll steal your data. Dada, dada, dada. So, you know, that didn't last. You went to the school, did you wear the hat?

Or no? No. I have another hat. I just, I think. You can't wear that, because that's iconic. Yeah. You can wear that. They're going to know who you are.

You know, when the hate mail started coming in, and there was a common theme, you know, Putin, thanks you for your service. And Russia loves you. Or I hope your business fails, but you'll, Donnie will pay for your, your, your, your, you know, hope part in you or whatever. But the common thread started in your hat is ugly, or your hat is stupid. So I figured, you see Berkeley hat would have messed, nobody would bother. Figure, but figure if they care more about the hat than they do about the truth, then

I don't need to engage with them. It's a pointless conversation anyway. And then I started to realize that they really hate this hat, and that their tears give me fuel. So, you know, there's a lot of what's kept me going, like, to want to continue to fight, because when you get, for me, it's, I feel boxed in a corner. And any animal that's in a corner is going to lash out. So I don't understand why they keep coming after me. They tried to withhold my unemployment, the IRS dinged me for $57 from like seven years

ago, six years ago. It's like they're doing these little things here and there that to mess with me and it's like all this is going to do is make me want to fight harder. And now that I have really nothing left to lose, then why not see it to the end? So I'm going to try to do everything I can to hold these guys accountable. Not just the mainstream and social media, though I tried to go after Twitter

and everything was looking really good for a while and then they switched judges on me with an Obama-appointed judge because to prove that I wasn't a hacker, we were gonna have to have Hunter come in and explain that that was his signature, that was him. So we were gonna have Hunter testify, and then I guess the White House didn't like that. So they switched judges on me

and the judge threw the case out, awarded Twitter the Florida Slap statue. So then I was in the hole with Twitter for $175,000. So whatever Elon's doing right now, he's gonna make that thing crash and burn. God bless him. I'm, it's closest. I've seen the justice,

whatever he's doing to Twitter. This is the closest I've seen to justice. You've got some beef with Twitter. I'm not speculating. You've come out and said that your biggest beef might be with Twitter. I think you were trying to sue some of these media outlets But Twitter is at the top your list. Well Twitter Twitter. I tried to sue because they labeled me a hacker

They said that they're they're reasoning for blocking the story from every form of communication was that it was based on hack material I'm not a hacker. Mm-hmm. So I went because Hunter gave you the laptop. He gave me I went because Hunter gave you the laptop. He gave me what the mission my job was to recover. I didn't I wasn't there to fix a laptop. It was to recover the day and then after 90 days It became yours because he signed a Bill or an invoice saying yeah after 90 days if you don't pay this is now my property and and there's no Expectation of privacy when it comes to things you abandoned. So I never felt like I ever did anything wrong. So to get labeled a hacker, because people are like,

you're gonna rot in prison for hacking. I'm like, I didn't hack anything. So if I'm ever gonna start a business again, fixing computers, having people, if I don't clear my name in the court of law that I'm not a hacker, I'm never gonna have a successful business again. So that's why I went after Twitter.

Again, and we beat 230. Twitter put up the 230 protection defense. And we actually beat them, which I think is a first. My lawyer, we were high five and it was, it was a good time. Things looked very optimistic. And then about June, they switched the judges and then the judge demanded that my lawyer go down to Florida to explain to her why this case shouldn't be thrown out. So that was not a good sign and then it was thrown out and then I was Twitter, I have to pay Twitter's legal fees. So can I read a quote that you said to the New York Post maybe we'll open up a discussion

because this has to do with section 230 media. I believe you called the media these days are at least big tech state run media. So this, I guess this is according to the post, after fighting to reveal the truth, all I want is for the rest of the country to know that there was a collective and orchestrated effort by social and mainstream media to block a real story with real consequences for the nation.

Is that how you still feel things? Absolutely, that's why. I'm suing right now with the help of the America project. I, to be honest, I thought I had to move back to Delaware because I thought I would have to file for bankruptcy and I had to be in my house or I'd lose my house. So I had to leave where I was safe and go back to now 10 miles from Joe Biden's house. And because I don't want to lose my house. So you know, you're, you feel safer being closer to Joe Biden's house? No, I feel well, I still, I feel safe in my house now. Yeah.

That's my home. And I think I don't know, I don't know if Joe feels safe or on Joe. So it's like, and where does the Twitter lawsuit stand right now with you? Oh, no, they threw it out with prejudice. And then I, 175,000 and do you plan on paying that or how's that? Well, it's mostly taking care of I mean I hear the second most famous person that switters at Twitter is currently suing well I'm pretty sure they well, I don't think I want to be famous for that but Now Twitter Twitter was a realization. I never thought I would have my

opportunity to hold these people accountable in the court of law. So I wrote a book about, because I thought maybe court of public opinion, if I tell my story and I put it in a book, then the mainstream media and social media can't block it. It'll be something that's tactile in people's hands. So I didn't think I'd have an opportunity again to try to hold these people accountable. When you look at the collusion, Zuckerberg on October 25th, 2020, admitted before Congress that the FBI approached Facebook, Twitter, and Google to warn them of a massive document dump of disinformation from a foreign power.

He said that. If it was at the end of the summer, I mailed overnight at a copy of the drive to Bob Castella's office in August 28th. If the following week, the FBI is warning social media outlets to be on the lookout for a document dump. It begs the question, who has the Pfizer court for that? Was I being a monitor, who was the lawyer for the president of the United States, being monitored?

So I want to figure out who gave the marching orders, who told everybody that this is Russian collision. Sure, I want to clear my name. Obviously I don't want the Mack Isaac name, which is a pretty good name as far as the military and love of country. I don't need to have traitor attached to that moving forward. And I'm not going to let them take the narrative that they want to push and allow that to end up in the history books. So there's, yeah, that's my personal fight. But the bigger picture is, there was a colluded effort. There was collusion between mainstream and social media

and federal agencies. At least we know of the DOJ and the FBI's involvement to keep this quiet. And we live in a country that we're afraid of, we're leaning towards socialism, we're like halfway there, with our state-run media. It's not fair and it's not right. It shouldn't happen to the country. And it's unfortunate that that happened to me. But the bigger thing is, is we should,

with 86% of Americans getting their news through digital devices to have a lens or a filter over that that's presented to us, that's controlled by a political party. That's not right. John Paul, how many people have you, from former FBI agents, who maybe are conservative, have you spoken to? How many of them have you uh... from former uh... fby agents maybe are conservative have you spoken to how many of them have you spoken toward the reached out

uh... i have talked to just in passing some retired uh... no not just a past now and nobody's reached out why not don't why not i think i think the by the way that they think i pulled a faster on them when they when i made a copy of the drive i just when they when I made a copy of the drive I just thought they knew I had a copy of the drive. Yes, my dad tried to give them a copy of the drive back in October 2019 So I was in Giuliani's place a week

I don't know what it was maybe a week or two after he they came into his house and took everything that he had of the Joe Biden stuff that he had and They came into his house and took everything that he had of the Joe Biden stuff that he had and We did a five hour interview. They're three and a half hours is on actually mafia states of America.com And I would say half of the interview is about Joe Biden and this was how long ago was this was just like six months ago? Ten twelve months ago came out well in November eight months ago, right? No, they closer to a year probably you're not seeing it folks you got to go watch it as i'm off your states uh... of america dot com the whole three and a half hour interview with japan with uh... what he called it rooted juliana is there and

obviously they went after rudy to try to get everything away taken away from informed to lose credibility but i i wonder why come conservative influencers from the FBI side? How come Devnod reached out? How come Devnod reached out to support? Well, I think that, I mean, up until the Washington Post and the New York Times admitted that the laptop was real, I mean, I had a book written... It was done in September of last year. Yeah. And I was spent three, four, five months trying to get in contact with publishers anybody who would be interested in this story and i got zero response from anybody so it felt like my uncle and my father going to congress all over again just nobody wants to touch this thing with a ten-foot-pole

i believe because i think they did it's they have been so who would then who is liberal to your protocol who are they who's that publisher uh... is it a conservative publisher? That's the offshoot from Postel. Postel is my publisher. Anthony's a card. Really? Okay, interesting. So he's got some he's got some brass by the way. Yeah, he's he seems pretty. Yeah, him and I had a nice call three weeks ago. I like him a lot. We had like a very friendly call and's seen, who's a 15 years assignment as a shooster?

So if there's a guy that's got the audacity to pick it up, is that, but here's what I will tell you. Hey, Republicans, and whoever you are on that side, that you are like complaining about this deal, that you have served in the FBI or CIA or military or your general, all that stuff. Why are you not investigating and finding out for yourself as well?

Why aren't you doing something about it? Okay, retweet or a tweet is not enough. We don't do this for a living. We're a podcaster. We just sit down and we have these conversations. Why aren't some of you guys that are connected to the FBI or former FBI? Why aren't you guys reaching up?

Why aren't you having those kinds of meetings? I mean, it surprises me that that doesn't happen. It surprises me that some of them from their own camp are not reaching out to have these conversations with you. What are they afraid of? What happened? Is it a backbone issue? Oh my God, if I talk to him, God forbid,

something's going to happen to my career? Yeah, no, this, look, if your concern is truly socialism and everybody is waiting for the next guy to pick up the fight, then you're all panseys. If your fear is really socialism and you claim it as socialism, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about people who claim their fear socialism, why don't you do something about it? Why don't you expose all the other stuff? Because flip this real quick. Flip it real quick.

Do you remember when Obama's daughter got caught smoking with her 13 years old? Yes. Do you remember what Obama said? What? Obama said, you know, I, the struggles of being a teenager, I remember I went through it myself as well. You know, as a family, we love her, and we're going to get through this and pop up. You know what we said? As an audience, what do we say? Okay. Okay, cool.

You know what? Cool. Cool. Move down. Yep. When Bill Clinton, I did not have, you know, in relation to relations with that woman. Yeah.

Miss Lewinsky. Yeah, in according to your power. Right. Anyway, so, and then what happened? You're like, dude, no, it's fine. Yeah. We don't say our Sun should be like you when they grow up although he inspired a lot of people. Well half the country didn't care The other half really really cared about the BJ. I don't care about McDougal. I don't care about

Trump's lady to store me. I don't care about any of that stuff. Listen if you in by the way the whole role model situation Yeah, there's an element of president being a role model. I totally agree. if you, in by the way, the whole role model situation, yeah, there's an element of president being a role model. I totally agree. There's an element of the governor's being a role model. I get that. But I want to make sure you got good policies to get good results. This is why when people say, how can you, a Trump, I like his policies.

That's all it is. I like his policies. His policies were very effective for business. It was a lot less peaceful, a lot more peaceful, until COVID took place. So even if you go back to Reagan, imagine you have a son and you name your son after you, okay, and you name him Ronald Reagan. And guess what, the kid you named after you

hates your policies. Do you know that story? Do you know Ronald Reagan's son? Ronald Reagan, Jr., completely disagrees with his father. What do you mean that story do you know Ronald Reagan's son Ronald Reagan Jr. completely disagrees with his father you know what it means you do he's an atheist now he's he's you know but but guess what guess what american people said luck everybody has issues with their kids sometimes you have it sometimes

some kids want to do this hey no problem we understand it hey why aren't you wanting to cover this story here? But can I pose a maybe an opposing view? There is a difference between the actual man, the president and what they do, like you brought up McDougal, Trump, Stormy Daniels, Trump, Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, right? Reagan, he's allegedly had affairs on Nancy versus the kids, like you brought up one of the Obamac daughters smoking weed or even hunter smoking crack or even stuff that Eric Trump allegedly did, what have you. There is a difference between the president and what they do and their kids can't control

what the kids do. I don't condone some of the stuff that hunters done for sure. It's not a good look for the country, but it's not like it's the president doing those things. If I was a guy who would make short clips, I would take what you just said, and I would take what you said a week before about guns that if something kid does the parent should be held accountable and that contradicts itself.

Well, if you murder somebody, what are you talking about? You're doing stuff to 12-year-old girls. I mean, these are minors, well, some people would say, this is worse than murder. What do you mean 12-year-old girls? You haven't seen what 4chan brought up yesterday with links on this guy. I don't follow 4chan. No. No, I don't either. I don't even know who 4chan was until yesterday. But 4chan,

they came out and they said, you know, they found links of this guy visiting, watching 4-year-old girl. Okay. So anyways, that concern. No doubt Hunter Biden's a freaking creep. Yeah, but could you imagine if I was a bush, I mean, not. But to your, argue, to your point that you made just a week ago, it is your, I didn't say my point. This is your point. To your point, you said, if the sun does,

that parents needs to be held around. I still stand by that comment. If you're gonna, if your kid is gonna go out there and we're talking about the latest thing and where was that? There's so many. I don't know. So many goddamn massive shootings. These things that I can't even keep up. But if you're gonna go out and take seven people's lives. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna hold your family accountable. So, I'm sticking with that. Let me ask you a question. That's different from what the president is getting.

Don't tell that stuff. No, no, no. You don't get, like, we all contradict our story. That's murder. That's something that you're taking people's lives. Okay, so let me ask you a quote. What's, whether your kid does drugs or not, that's a different story.

I didn't say drugs. I didn't say drugs. Murder is murder. Totally get it. What about a 50 year old man having sex with a minor? She go to jail. That's it I don't know you what you should there being accountability for the father No, but there should be accountability for the person that killed like the a yes Mass mass murder has different not mass murder. Have a murder period. How about murder period?

No, I'm talking about mass murder of innocent people that shit We're completing two different things. We're I see what you're saying here. You do have a point Yeah, you're basically saying Adam you're kind of contradictory All I say is all because accountability should be held to the parents all I'm saying I'm talking about accountability for mass Murder you're talking about gun violence. So it's kind of like some, please don't kill more than one person. Because if you kill two, I'm also going to jail. Just kill one. Something needs to be done.

I get that. All I'm saying is like, look, sometimes I'll give ideas. Okay. And I'll go in the room and I'll say, I want you to be devil's advocate. Argue my arguments. Just debate me, right? Because I don't know if I have any leaks in my argument.

Okay, you said that last week, people thought about it, create a bunch of attention. I was like, oh, you know what, parents should be held accountable. That's the case. Okay, that comes a week later. If this is true, should he be held accountable? For what is Sunday?

He's not a child. Who's not a child? Hunter's not a child. He's not a child. Yeah, he's not living at home. And then, but, these people are also not children that he was talking about last week,

that are doing a mass shoot. They're also not 13, 14 years old They're also grown men and what men that are that are doing this arguably grown 17, 18, 19, 20, I think I think the life experience that takes place in the 30 years age difference between the recent shooter and hunter I I agree I think that there's certain accountability, especially if the raising of that child is so close to that period of time. I don't think, I think Hunter's been Joe's bagman for the past 25 years, so I don't think

there's been any upbringing or raising coming from Joe. I think it's a power dynamic, Joe is the boss, and Hunter's the worker. I think you guys completely miss my point. I'm on the same page with that. His point last week was, parents should be held accountable for what the kid does with mass shooting. That's his point last week. That's what I'm saying.

For me, what 100 did is what 100 did. I just said, what Obama's kids do is what Obama's kids do. What Ronald Reagan, you do what you got to do. You know, the minor stuff, that's, that's a, that's a, that's very sensitive to parents and all that stuff that you go through. But to him, if he did do what he did, and all these things that are coming up

with his involvement with politics, with Zelensky, with Ukraine, why are you so protected? Every, it's a little bit weird when you're very, very protective of somebody all of a sudden. You ever had a situation where something happened and one of the guys is all of a sudden

overly protective of a girl? You're like, hey, bro, that's a little, I'm showing you on this. Wow, you're no longer here, sir. Dude, you've never talked like that before. How did you all of a sudden become so protective of Ukraine? Like, did you, do you have some lineage? Did you do ancestry.com and they said

you're 62% Ukrainian and you're like, I got it, I know. What happened there, you're so, Ukrainian and you're like, oh, no, no, no. What happened there? So that's the part where there's a little bit of speculation. And I would like the professional investigative journalist to go out there and do some investigative journalism. I just don't think anything is going to happen. And I was thinking about this.

If Trump wins, this next presidency, even if they do investigation, Joe jl will be out of here won't be the president more mn these people just nothing happens nothing ever happens to people in the prove we have the proof you know what he had he seen a lot we're seeing like he's smoking crack uh... every every day he's just there's another video where he's weighing like twenty grams of of crack cocaine with the girl and nothing's gonna happen let's be frank about this this isn't just any father's undo right so hundred Biden is smoking a lot of crack cocaine with the girl and nothing's gonna happen. Let's be frank about this This isn't just any father-son duo right so Hunter Biden is smoking a lot of crack right and he just weighed out as Vinnie said 20 grams of crack Joe Biden wrote the original legislation with mandatory sentencing laws for crack cocaine saying if you had five grams

You got five years mandatory no probation no another hundred percent of them. Okay Secondly Hunter Biden has lied on a federal gun form. Right? He purchased a weapon and lied on the gun form, and then threw the weapon in the dumpster. It's like, I do think there is a point to where Joe Biden has to be held accountable for some of this.

I don't disagree with that part. I agree with that part. There needs to be accountability here, but regardless, there needs to be investigative journalism. No, absolutely. Let me give you my highlight of Jimmy Kimmel. I'm not a Kimmel fan. I don't watch Kimmel.

His humor's down my kind of humor. I like Fallon Moore. I like Carson. I like Leno. I was more Leno less Letterman. Just kind of like comedy is taste, right? You probably like Letterman more than you like Leno. I like Leno.

You know, it's everybody's taste is different. But you know what I like about what Kimmel did? It was a week, maybe two weeks. You know Kimmel had within a two weeks span? He had a hundred writing come up and he did the new book with crack, what he was addicted to, how tough it was and all this stuff he met the scroll

at whatever it was at a rehab place. I was like, you know what, I appreciate that. I was like, that's all you have to do. Hey, here's what I'm going through and they did it. And then Kimmel the next week had the pillow guy on. And that conversation on guess what? I appreciate that. I think Kimmel needs to invite him. Hey, Kimmel. He had a he on one of his shows, he threw up a picture of a not very flattering picture of me. And he said this guy looks like he's a tour guide for Loch Ness. And I I was kind of flattered for that.

I thought that was a big problem. By the way, that's totally fine. Comedians make fun of a lot of people, and then they invited back into the show. It's his job. Somebody wrote that script, and he read it off to Teleprompter. But Kimmel does treat certain guests a certain way.

He was a little softer with Hunter Biden. There's no question about Polar. And he has the pillow guy on him. Mox him to his face. I'm not the pillow guy fan whatsoever, but that guy does kind of take it like a dream. Can I tell you something? As much as I can't stand, Kimmel,

as much as I can stand, Kimmel, that's progress. I agree. That's progress to me. You, of course, he's favoring one side and not the other side. I, I, I want to sit here and agree, I cannot believe like I'm defending Kimmel. And you're like the, I'm like, no, wait. No, I'm not playing this I cannot believe like I'm defending Kimmel. You're like the

Do I play in this game enough of Jimmy Kimmel? Cut this short clip up. I passed defending Jimmy Kimmel. Oh my gosh, but all I'm saying is to me that's progress Yeah, that is progress. Let the audience sit there and say I agree. I disagree. I do all the things You gotta do these days. It's just follow what Bill Mars doing. Because when Trump's in the presidency, it's just a shit show on Trump, especially on the left. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, he sucks, his ego maniac, he's a narcissist, collusion, collusion, collusion, now that Biden's in the presidency

and country's kinda going to shit, Hunter Biden's smoking crack. John Paul Mack guy sticks over here, hanging out with laptops out of nowhere. All of a sudden, people who lean left have to start saying, you know what? There's shit ain't making so much sense and I gotta find some comments. You know what I was crazy about. You know it's crazy what you just said that.

Here's what I would do if I was John Malone. I would contact Bill Marz agent and I would say three-year contract for 50 million a year, 150 million dollar contract for three years. Okay. I would go after Bill Mar and bring him to CNN at fire everybody. You got that take sides, who doesn't have the audacity to, you know, respect, like Jake Tapra, I think is,

you know, there's a few people that are solid state. You gotta keep Brian's shelter, though. He's the backbone. There's a few people you can't even mention their names because they're in goat status. Brian's in the goat status. I mean, Brian's like what they're with. Untouchable. Yeah. He's right. Why are you saying that they should bring in Bill Mark? Because if John Malone says it's coward to do what he's doing and he wants to go back to investigative journalism, hey, go back Bill Mark, because Bill Mark is

doing more investigative journalism as a comedian than any of your guys in your channel combined. So go offer that, my Bill Mark a 350 million out of contact. By the way, I don't know if he's doing investigating bulls. I'll take a 2% commission on that. I don't know if Bill Mark is doing investigate journals and per se. I think he's just calling you. Wait, what is CNN is doing?

Where it needs to be called out. By the way, do you think Bill Maher for the right price would ever go to see a new one? No, I don't think he would. No, no, no. You know why? Let me tell you why. There are certain people who would

at for any price go anywhere, okay? There are certain people that when you've been around for a while and you find an environment that supports you, leave you alone, the team works, everything's mentioned, all that stuff is good. They're wise enough to know you don't screw up something like this. They're willing to work with me. I bet you right now if CNN announced we're giving a, if they say 300 million dollars,

I'm telling you Bill Marstle would turn it down. Yeah, I agree with you. I don't think he's going to take them out of the, he had a quote basically saying, these days, he gets offered all sorts of money to go play gigs. He gave an example. He was offered a million dollars to fly to Dubai to do a show, one show. He goes, I'm good.

At this point in my life, I'm not doing this for the money. I enjoy my time and doing what I wanna do. Does he have you on with it? Has he had? Hey, Bill, if you're watching this, okay, I try to make you 200 million bucks and he says, that's your problem, not my bill. Once you get a hold of him, send him a message on Snapchat or I don't know on Instagram

where I'm sure you're pretty easy to get a hold of it with an email. I don't do any of that, Insta. Yeah, well, I hate the internet. I only really got on Facebook when I opened my business in 2010. Well, maybe, I value this kind of social interaction if you get up that, because you're not my friend, it's probably because I haven't broken bread with you. Well, then I would say probably take a letter head,

just like a regular piece of paper, a pat for you, whatever you want to call it, and just hand write a letter saying, I would like to invite you on the show. Okay? And then have him on the show and talk shit. Do what you do best and let go. You're a little bit mainstream to get, you're mainstream, mainstream.

They're following your stuff. Bunch of item on board. You've had a lot of people on. You know, the only thing for me is just eyeballs. The more people interview him, telling the stories, the more people say, really, let me look into it. That's all it is. Every picture I see of Hunter right here,

he's in a tub, he just loves water and smoking. Like, he probably dropped the computer inside this and brought it to him. What is that, by the way, that clip is what? Where is that at? This is from Hunter. This is Hunter on his, he's wearing crack with a girl. Seriously? Yeah, watch.

Look at that, 20 grams of crack. Okay. So I don't know that. Super-poin real. Really? The first part could be, not the second part. So like, if you've noticed over in past couple weeks

there's been a new trove of data that's been floor. So like, if you've noticed over the past couple of weeks, there's been a new trove of data that's been discovered. Because of the 220 gigs that I recovered, there was a 30 gig iPhone backup that was encrypted. And I believe somebody at the Washington Examiner cracked that encryption. So that's where the isolation tank, smoke crack dream beer video came from a bunch of other interesting things are on that video on that that encrypted backup Unfortunately, whenever something comes out then somebody else tries to go and say oh this came off of this and this came off of that So I would question that because I haven't I've and gone through the entire

Encrypted backup, but I have not seen so So by the way, I respect that about you. I mean, you could sit here and completely just throw a hunter under the bus, but you're basically saying, yeah, I don't even know if that's real or not. Yeah, I would question that. Because a lot of people are basically questioning your credibility, right?

I mean, they're calling you a Russian asset. They're saying legally, you know, blind, you can't see that well, you know, you wear the hat to own the liberals, but Right fairly fairly stated. I not like it. It's a good hat I love the great hat this for so for the record Adam loves your hat I'm really very glad you wore that if you weren't didn't wear the hat I probably wouldn't do the show today so I respect you for bringing that good

But a lot of people have questioned your credibility, but you've been nothing but forthright and honest. The truth doesn't pick size. Like when I started going and attacking the individual that was trying to put out the 450 gigs of fake data and just trying not to attack him, it was procedures intact, but basically put the facts out there. Here's the serial number, the laptop. Anybody can look that number up through Apple and see that it only had a 250 gig drive. I recovered 220 gigs of user data. So even it was a full drive. There's no way you can get for it. So I'm just trying to let people aware that there's people out there that are trying to spew disinformation or muddy the waters.

I started getting attacked by the saying, I donated donated to your gifts and go like a month ago. And now you're turning on us. Why are you protecting the Biden's? Why are you doing this? And I started catching a flag from people on the right. And I'm sorry, the truth doesn't pick sides. I love this. It really doesn't.

Would you say that this is the best thing that's ever happened to you or the worst thing that's ever happened to you? This whole fiasco. Yeah, this is not good. I did not sign up for this life. I don't want it and I'm not happy. But this is what I have to do because this is bigger than me. You're born on May 2nd. May 3rd. May 3rd. On the moon, May 1st. You're May 1st. Yeah. So you're

May 1st. And Mario's May 2nd. He's May 3rd. Oh, and I'll go hang out on your birthday. Why can't you go ahead? And thank you for your father and your grandfather. Well, I can't shun good. That's all right. And thank you for your father and your grandfather? Oh, my grandfather was started off Army Air Corps in Corps 2. He was a Canadian pilot that kind of got drafted into the Army Air Corps, and then my father joined the Air Force and it's the family profession. If I was like, I'd never served. I'm visually impaired. They wouldn't take me I can

apparently see well enough to fly planes and kill people so you know which is probably a good thing if you can't see good. But thank you for acknowledging the hat it is a military hat but I have never served I wanted to get that clear because I honor those that have served but I respect respect so how about we transition into a complete different few that's going on. We mentioned them earlier. Twitter vows legal fight after Musk pulls out of the $44 billion deal. This is a Reuters story. Elon Musk said on Friday he was terminating the $44 billion deal to buy Twitter because the social media company had breached multiple provisions of the merger agreement Twitter chairman. Brett Taylor said on a micro-blogging platform that the board planned to pursue legal action to enforce a merger agreement, Musk's lawyer said Twitter had failed

or refused to respond to multiple requests for information on fake or spam accounts on the platform which is fundamental to the company's business performance. There's plenty of precedents for deal negotiation in one stands, French retailer Louis Louis Vuitton, threatened to walk away from a deal with Tiffany and company. The US jewelry retailer agreed to lower that acquisition price from by $425 million, so $15.8 billion. So that's kind of what happened there. Now, you're seeing what's been the back and forth

with a lot of different commentary. Trump was at a rally yesterday speaking, sure, you guys heard what Trump said. I don't know if you did hear what Trump said, but yesterday Trump is given a speech and, you know, he says, Ilan, Ilan, Ilan, he's not going to buy Twitter. Trump said after encouraging those in the attendance to use a competing social media platform, true social. And where did you hear that before? From me, he's got himself a mess. I've looked at his contract. You know, Elon says he's never voted Republican,

but I didn't know that because he told me that he voted for me, so he's another bullshit artist. Anyway, so the moment Elon says this, Trump has to jump in and make a comment. So what are your thoughts about what's going on with this year, Adam? Well, you're talking about the Twitter or the Trump pair? Both. Give me both. Well, I would hope there's a couple different things going on. Number one, I would love to see Elon buy Twitter. I think Twitter is an absolute shit

show. The whole thing that's happening with the bots, you have people speculating that 5% of the user bases bots, and then you have Donald Trump Jr. speculating that 50% of the user bases bots and then you have Donald Trump Jr. speculating that 50% of the user bases bots As far as the Trump situation of course he needs to weigh in and poke fun at Elon if I'm Trump I'd like to have Elon as an advocate and an ally not an enemy That's not someone that I want to be feuding with keep in mind You know as far as being a bullshit artist. That's like the pot called the kettle black by the way There's a part of Trump that's an ego driven thing. Trump's worth what?

$2, $3 billion, where an Elon Musk is worth what? $2, 300 billion. So if I'm Trump, number one, I want to have Elon on my side. He admitted that he would vote Republican this time straight up. Whether that's the centers or Trump remains to be seen. But that's not the type of person you want to be fighting with. Furthermore, obviously Trump's always got an angle because what's his social media network? Truth. Truth. Truth social.

Are they trying to replace Twitter? So of course, there's going to be some feuding with with Elon On Trump's behalf. As a businessman, what do you think is going on with him with the deal pulling, is he playing a game? No, no. Listen, like you made an offer on a house and you offered a million bucks.

During the 60 days closing period, all of a sudden of, I don't know, a war happens. COVID happens. You know, a massive disruption happens to the market. And rates, skyrocket, whatever percent, real estate valuation drops 20%. So that million dollar house you're buying, all of a sudden it's worth 800,000 dollars.

You go back to the buy and say, look, I'm not buying this for million dollars. You're figuring out a way to get out of the deal. That's what he's trying to do. Either I'll buy it for a lot less after doing the inspection or I'm not going to buy it and I'm going to lose whatever money that I'm putting. Sometimes when you buy in the house and you put, this one building about, not this one, the other building that I bought, the federal building, there was already a deal in place.

I went in with a cash offer and I said, look, I'll buy this cash. He said, show us, you know, you know, if you're really serious about this, so what are you going to do? He said, put a few hundred thousand dollars in an account that if we don't close the deal, you lose that money. Now that's a decision.

So you see what happened right there? So what I say, okay, no problem. So I put a few hundred thousand dollars in an escrow account, sign an agreement that if I don't close it, it's not mine. But I bought it cash and I bought it discounted We collated that I get an offer for six million dollars on that building, but I bought it for cash, right? So In this case if you walks away

He pays that one billion, but these guys now want to sue him and the CEO. I don't know if you guys saw what the CEO of Twitter said The CEO of Twitter said we're going to war can you pull this one up? We're going to war with Elon and, you know, CEO of Twitter, type in CEO of Twitter, war, musk. And you'll see an article that's going to pop up. There you go. Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal, willing to go to war to make Elon musks deal happen. So go to the law, go to the law, go to the law, go to the law. See you, the ones on the willing to go to war to make Elon musk

44 billion out of acquisition. So, the media giant Emmett reports that the deal could be in jeopardy over the site's handling of spam and bots. After the market closed, must disclose as ICC filing, he was terminating the deal, Pragera, who assumed the chief executive job last fall after the company's co-founder, Jack Torsie,

stepped down from the role, is reportedly starting to come out fighting after the most repeatedly criticized. Okay, so he has to do that that because if he doesn't show that, the investors, Agrawal would be due to receive a pay at our 42 million dollars under the current terms of the buyout. As with a handful of Twitter executives, Agrawal payout will be triggered by a so-called changing control clause under contract, which kicks in after, kicks in either of them is terminated within 12 months,

a new ownership, assuming to help him with the company. So he has to do that because he has to be strong in front of his shareholders and in front of his board. He has to show that fight. Now, is he gonna win? I don't know. There's a lot of people that are hoping that he can force them to buy Twitter.

There's a lot of people that are hoping he ends up buying Twitter. By the way, there's a guy in Professor Galloway. Scott Galloway, I don't know if you guys follow this guy or not. Great content. He had a, he was supposed to have a show with CNN Plus, until CNN Plus didn't make it with a $300 million. CNN, what? CNN negative. CNN negative. It's a good point. Well, it's actually not a bad name for a show. There we go. So Scott's been playing a lot of games with Elon Just kind of driving him, you know saying you were never gonna buy it

You know, you were just kind of using the stolen Elon hard core is trolling them eventually to the point where Elon just Blocked them and then he came and said here's somebody that's for freedom of speech Why are you blocking me? Why are you worried about what I have to say? So there's a lot of commentary that's going on there with this about what I have to say. So, there's a lot of commentary that's going on there with this. I just think Elon made an offer that was 42, 44 billion and Twitter is not probably worth 20% to 30% less and he's sitting there saying, look, I lost 60 billion dollars on my network, I was worth 300 billion. So if I would have bought it at 300 billion dollars network, I've lost 20%.

I'd like to buy this 40 whatever, 2 billion dollar company for 20% less, which is what? 34 billion. If you want to do that network, I've lost 20%. I'd like to buy this 40, whatever, $2 billion out of the company for 20% less, which is what, $34 billion. If you wanna do that deal, I mean, I think that's kinda what's going on, but Twitter wants that additional 8 billion. I may be wrong. Well now Twitter's threatening to sue for a billion bucks. No, no, the billion they're gonna get, no matter what,

because that's the billion. Like when I said, I made that offer on that building, if I close that building or not, they're getting that cash in the escrow. So you're saying that he has to pay that, or that's already in his car? That billion is an escrow, that billion, I assume that billion is gonna go to Twitter no matter what,

but Twitter is sitting there saying, no, no, we lost more than a billion dollars. So P.B.D., here's the question. We just got through with the whole Johnny Depp, Amber, her, trial of the decade, whatever. What are the chances this goes to court? And how much bigger would this be, you know, media wise than the Johnny Depp, Amber, heard? Which one?

Which one? Twitter versus Elon Musk's. It's not gonna be one hundred of what the Amber heard situation. Oh, you think Johnny Depp and Amber, it's gonna be bigger than Elon versus Twitter? Dude, look at your podcast, when you do your podcasts and there's Girl drama guy drama what have girl dramas what people are you serious amber amber her does the goat of drama like she

You have to even go to court right away. I have to be there. I find it very ironic that amber heard who she was with before Johnny Dept was freaking Elon Musk. Yeah, that's not not not before Johnny Depp. It was freaking Elon Musk. That's not before Johnny Depp. Wow, she was with Johnny Depp. Her and Elon dated for a few. It wasn't before. What? I thought it was before. No, no.

No, because her and Johnny have been around for a while. Her and Elon Musk had a fling, I think like last year, a couple of years ago. So you don't think that if Elon Musk went to trial versus Twitter, it would be mainstream news galore. Zero. It would not mainstream news galore zero. It would not be one one hundred of Johnny Depp and Amber her. Really?

Are you serious about this question? Elon Musk is arguably the most famous person in the world. Do you think he'd have people? I don't think he'd have, but it'd be a litigation trial. It would be a litigation trial. It would be funner exciting or dramatic. Unless he shows up in court and shit And like and it's not gonna be now if January 6th Trump goes to trial and I've ever heard

Shame over you can to talk about 8 million people live watching that one. That's a different story Okay, so but this one I don't think so this look There's a big camp that's hoping the scans of buying Twitter, but what camp are you in? I want to see him buy Twitter I want to see what he's saying is when you get on Let's hope that this can buy a Twitter. But what can for you? I wanna see him buy Twitter. I wanna see what he's saying is when you get on, the UNI are protected when Starbucks has a coffee bean. UNI are protected when a McDonald's has a burger king. UNI are protected when a 24-hour fitness has an LA fitness.

UNI are protected when a CNN has a Fox. You and I are not protected because there is zero competitors on social media, virtual governments on the opposite side. None. Every one of them is one side. And all the other ones that are on the opposite side, they're very, very small. So in this case, yeah, I do want him to buy Twitter.

Yeah, I'd like to see other people also buy other platforms. I'd love to see a conservative buy New York Times. I'd love to see a fiscally conservative capitalists buy Fortune Magazine. I'd like to see some of those things happening. But yeah, so I would like to see this guy one because I want to see 50-50. That's how I get clear to the truth

because I want to see debate. The debate. Speaking of truth, bringing it back to the whole because I wanna see debate. The debate. We'll speak in of truth, bringing it back to the whole Trump thing and him, you know, basically. Why are you so active on truth social and not on Twitter? I just can't figure this out.

It's just a great platform. As much as you hate to watch. By the way, is truth social, legitimate question. Is it active yet? People on it yet? I don't know. Yeah, no, people are on it. People are on it?

How is it? Do you actually use it? Is it easy to use? I've used Getter and Truth again, on more of a defensive strategy when I see disinformation, people start to run with narratives that are not true, then I will correct it. Also, it's self gratifying because again,

I don't think I'd had the fortitude to make it through all of this if I didn't have the direct feedback from the half of the country that's always believed me, the half of the country that's been supportive for me, giving me prayers, giving me best wishes, saying that they're behind me. And it is good because Facebook tells me how big of an asshole I am. But, but truth, you know, I get to talk to the people that really, you know, they, they, they want to pray for. Well, let me ask you political affiliation. It's fair to say that you're right leaning now, you're voting Republican. How long have you been voting Republican for?

Have you ever voted for a Democrat? You know, it's funny because it's, and, and Delaware, you, uh, you, you really can't be registered republican and vote in any of the primaries or anything like that. A lot of people change affiliations. I didn't even really care about doing that. The most I've changed my affiliation is because a girl told me that she wouldn't date me if I was a Republican. How hot. I'm like okay well that's my guy. How hot was she pretty hot? I'm excited. I didn't even hesitate.

I got online. But register and how long ago was that? Oh, she murdered me now. So this was probably about six years ago. Well, you guys are still together? Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not as well live near seminary.

So did you vote for, so you're more worried about her than Hunter Biden? Yeah. Coming after you. Well, she knew then, oh man, well then well the worst is and this is in the book so while my father my uncle running around trying to knock on congress's doors in the lurched them to the uh... the existence of laptop uh... i had a young lady come into my shop

needed mac fix and then we started to chattingchatting. And I have a strict rule of never chate-fratonizing with customers, because it's an appropriate A. B, I don't need social media to somebody, oh, well, if you wiggle your whatever, you'll get a better deal. I don't need any of that. That's a charger 85 or 45 years. I did not.

I handled her like a customer. You handled her. Oh, shit. All right. Like a customer. I like a customer. You handled her. Oh shit. All right. Dude, like a customer. I got a customer. That word is a straight up like I handled you tonight. I'm on a handle you, Michelle.

She showed up. She showed up. At a bar that I frequent, like the following week. Yeah. And then we chit-chatting. And then then the COVID hit and got a lockdown. But we started continuing to have an online relationship. And that's when she informed me that she used to work for the FBI.

Oh, shit. Shit. And of course, I'm just like, oh, honey pot, honey pot, gotta be careful. And then so we dated and the COVID relaxed, we started getting very serious. And she came home. This is about mid-August.

Yeah. Came home and said, hey, I just got put on this disinformation board. And I'm like, oh yeah, what are you going on after? Because she had been working on one with COVID. She does a lot of Ted stuff and stuff like that. Yeah. Very liberal, but I'm attracted to women that want to save the world. So, you know, what was the disinformation board? To go after all the disinformation about Hunter Biden and the Ukraine.

Is this a joke right now? What is happening? I mean, I thought I thought you're saying that you're dating a woman who's on the disinformation board about Hunter Biden. And is this a freaking joke? Or what's happening? I know. So I was just I again, I hadn't told her anything that was going on. Wow. What do I do? She knows exactly who you are. You're asked that. She was my handle. She was my, she was my handler. Wow. Yeah, I bet she was. Listen, that world, the world handled handle. Kindle, tingle, many different ways. Come on. We're a buttboard here, right? I don't know. Well, so what's the status of your relationship? Oh no, no, she, she, uh, and well, John, what are the odds that you meet some girl online? You start dating,

long story short, short, conzeal them so she's a disinformation for her under Biden. Oh, and she was, don't you think you were set up? If you went through my social media profile, you would probably figure out that I have a thing for redheads that are creative and have big hearts and want to say the planet. So they put one of those together for me. Oh, so you know you're admitting that this was... I mean, in retrospect, it's like this just couldn't...

This was not what it was. That's perfect. So when's the wedding? Oh no, no, no. It ended very horribly and then actually after it ended, I figured, well, I have no reason now not to step out from the shadows. I mean, I lost this girl.

And obviously, if there is, if that was her effort to kind of get a rise out at me, see what I was doing, saying, new, then this is too close and this needs to end. So that's when I went to Rudy Giuliani's office. So it was all happened in that August. But yeah, my lawyer was like, yeah, she's a honey pot. But are you enjoying your 15 minutes of fame? Women coming after you, you getting on podcasts?

Like you said, you never even had Facebook. There must be some part of you that's like, all right, cool, people know my name now. The Mac Isaac family is going gonna have a great legacy now. Don't you think so? We had one and I was quite happy turning screws in a backwater shop in Wilmington. This is not the life that I want at all.

I'm not comfortable with it. If I come across as nervous and uncomfortable, there's a reason for that. I like helping people. I like fixing Macs. It's what I did for a quarter of a century. Now I'm an author or now I'm on podcast doing things that I'm not comfortable doing, talking about things that I wish never happened. And I didn't sign up for it, but this is my job

now and I have a responsibility. I feel the sincerity. I totally feel the sincerity. I feel the sincerity. can you do it tax to the three red headed girls that work? They're not out. Not fair. And tell them John only has sex with that head on. No, look, that hat is on. Time out. Don't say that.

You have to wear the hat with the other girls. That's it. I am so afraid of being me too. I don't go out. I don't go online. I don't chat. I don't even talk to girls that reach out to me because it's a, my life's a bit of a shit show. It's a bit of a dump just a fire. The FBI's rated everybody else who's touched that drive. I'm sure that they're

just trying to figure out how much crap I actually have because they're going to need a 24 foot box truck to empty out my house with technology. So, you know, and so these are all things that aren't really necessarily marketable when you're pursuing a relationship. So yeah, that's so far out of my mind right now. Plus, I'm so scared if I even look at a girl, she'll be like, oh, he did this.

Yeah, that's me too. You got to document everything. Listen, the best comment of the day, by K-O-V 12X, 12X, which I think is named as Paul. And he's a member. He said CNN will only get straight out, straightened out, when they hire a man like No Hands Carl. To run that report.

Sure, Vimeo Carl for CEO, what a sense. So this other person, zero latency manifestation. What role, if any any have global intelligence agencies historically played in perpetrating elections fraud, okay, worldwide? And another one here, a Smeldi, Butler III, what a name, Smetli, Butler III. So wait, if organizations admitted the laptop was real,

could you not take legal action? They spent months accusing you of colluding with the enemy, treason a no small time accusation. Yep, and that's why, again, back in April, I didn't think I'd have this opportunity, but back in April, my lawyer texted me, he's like, Merry Christmas. I was like, what, what are you, are you okay?

And he said, no, Joe Flynn and the America Project wanted to fund our lawsuits, because we had him to go, but after Twitter, I had to go from offensive to defensive, because that's a big bill, and I had to go from going to profit to bankruptcy. It was not kind of turned me off to the whole legal thing anyway, because it was like the expectation

of getting justice, and then now I'm punished for what I did in the court of law. But if the American project wants to step up, then we had Adam Schiff ready to go. He was top on my list, CNN, Politico. The Daily Beast just bowed out. They saw the storm is coming. And which is, they just called me a thief for the most part.

They didn't really, I want to go after that specific narrative of who said that this was Russian disinformation. And the people that peddled that narrative, because that narrative, to be honest, was a campaign promise. It was being touted by the Biden campaign as a justification for not having to touch the laptop with the 10-foot pole. So anybody that talked about that laptop in Russian and helped aid that narrative is on my list.

Is he on? Okay, so we got a special guest here. Can you hear us? Okay, fantastic. Can you do me if everyone put the picture of him if you have that? We have a special guest here with us today. But before you find out who our special guest is, do you have the picture or no, with him holding the first cell phone or no? Okay. You should put the picture. Are guests right now, if you're using a cell phone, if you're using a smartphone, if you use it anything, that is mobile when it comes onto phones, blame it on this man, because he is the inventor of the first cell phone

who just the other day he was being interviewed about inventing the new cell phone. A comment was made about how much people are spending time on smartphones, and he had an opinion. I think it's good for everybody else to hear us. Well, first of all, hey, thank you. I don't know if we say thank you or why did you

invest in the cell phone, but thank you for inventing this great technology that allows us to stay connected with each other. No, I'm glad you said it that way for that Patrick, because this story that the BBC put out, kind of implied that I thought the the cell phones are very useful. And of course, it's certainly wrong. I don't think for a person who has a cell phone is being used by more people than any other invention in history. And I think for the most part that it's a positive, it's improved people's lives, except that there are some people that just get carried away.

And this lady in the BBC interview said that she spends five hours a day on her cell phone, which doesn't make any sense to me at all, in my response was get alive. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Now, is it fair to say that you don't spend five hours on your smartphone with, you know, going on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat? Maybe, I don't know, maybe you're extremely active on TikTok and you have a massive

following, is your smartphone actively being used by you or no, you don't spend five hours on your phone? I don't know, I do not spend five hours of my phone. My view of technology is that technology makes sense only if it improves your life. So I use my phone for research. Any time I have an issue that I don't understand. Of course I'll look it up myself. I don't do social media, mostly because it's time-waster. I think social media is very important in the sense that it brings people together.

But the cell phone is still a very new gadget. It's only been around in the form that we have it today for 10 or 15 years. People are still learning about it. And I think that the social media is a form of learning, but not very efficient. You know, I'm an engineer of Patrick, I believe in efficiency. And I think we're still learning. Martin, what kind of phone to use right now?

I'm curious. I'm so curious to know what you use. If you pull out one of those big phones that you invented yourself, I would be so impressed. I do not use this phone. That is awesome. I have always tried to use the latest phone that's available. It was happened now, it's that there's really not very much difference. And I do use it on iPhone. I've tried the folding phones. They don't really do much for me. And I think

that the existing phone concept is way behind the times. In the coming years, we're going to see the phone much more personalized, much more useful at distributed around your body instead of being as often click than we hold up to our... Really? You think that? You think that in this position that doesn't look any sense at all. So as I said before, we're still at early times at the cell phone, we're still learning.

So you think we're going to phase when we're not going to be having a phone in our pockets in our hands, it's just going to be, you know, handless, not even wireless. You're just not going to have to use anything with it. You're just going to say, hey, you know, talk to a phone and it's going to make a phone call to somebody with nothing to hang on to. Absolutely. The phone, as you refer to it, is ultimately going to be embedded under your skin, maybe behind your ear. Wow. It's kind of amusing that you call it a phone because very

few people use the phone as a telephone. Are you kind of throwing your, you know, you trying to make a comeback? Are you like setting this up for a comeback that you have a phone you're developing and building that we don't know about as an engineer? No, no, no. No, I'm a husband in better, I still think of a lot of ideas, but other people have an after-invent that, but you know, the big deal about what we call the float is it connects you and it connects you in a whole bunch of different ways. And so this thing that we call a phone is going to be used as an educational tool.

Yeah. I think every student has to have a device that he can or she can access the Internet 24 or 7. That's crucial. I think this the future cell phone is a health care device. It can measure everything in your body. It can head off diseases before they happen. So I think this is what we call the cell phone is going to eliminate disease someday. Let me ask you for somebody that you know this is your space. You've been following this for all these years Does it concern you that we're gonna be putting chips in our bodies like if it goes that direction would that be would you fight it or would you say no

I'm totally fine. We're putting a chip on my body well I hate to say this factor, but I I have two In planted hips and the surgery very well So putting a chip in my body as well as a no brainer. I'm welcome. Hey, Mark, do you get a, my name is Vincent. Very nice to meet you. Do you get a royalty

for every cell phone sold since you came over here? I wish I got a penny for every cell. Oh my god. I mean, he started it. Oh my god. That would be, whatever. If he got a penny, every so. Oh my god. I mean, he started it. Oh my god. That would be, whatever, if he got a penny, it would be a whole different story. Martin, thank you so much for giving us

a few minutes of your time. And I think that there's about eight billion people in the world who are thankful for you. For that invention you made. Appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you so much, Patrick. And you'd like to be here.

Have a great day. Bye-bye. How awesome is that, right? It's a nice day. No, it's seriously just innovation. Like you think about those phones back in the days, the break that you would hang on to, you would see them like Miami Vice,

John Johnson, and he's driving a car. What do you call that phone that he's got in his hand? What would you call that? That's a brick. It's a brick. I would call that the Zach Morris phone. Oh, God, it's written by the bill. It's saved by the bell.

Yep. And you know what, come on, come on, come on. The one problem I have with the idea of a chip being embedded in your body becomes the phone or that idea is, how is that a process we're going to have to get done every year when these companies keep coming out with new phones, I think, this is the battery. Faster chips. You've got to just go to the app, will you like to use? Yeah, can you just go to the old chip, put a new chip?

Is that what he actually said that their cell phones are going to be implanted in our body? That is going to be narrowly. Yeah, absolutely. Is everyone okay with that? No, what? What do you mean? If you're watching this, how many of you,

if you don't mind, put a thumbs up, if you're like totally fine with a chip in, put in my body, I got other things put into my body. Or say, never in a million years would I put a chip in my body. Not to be religious, but they said it in the Bible, how long the mark of the beast got, I'm not putting nothing inside the beast.

I'm not putting nothing inside of me. Sorry. How many people do you think would be okay with that? Putting this. I think people above a certain age are gonna be less open to the idea of doing that. I think people above a certain age are going to be less open to the idea of doing that. And I think people who are 20s, 30s, they're going to be more open to the idea. When Facebook first came out and somebody explained to you to Facebook the first time, do you remember the first time somebody explained to Facebook? Yeah. How did they explain it?

They said it's what? You go on this website and you post your pictures and people can see it. You're like, I don't want to post my pictures And then we're on Facebook take tack Twitter all these other things that you're doing nowadays So who knows if if the majority do it by the way most people are saying no right now Take a screenshot of you saying no and see if you would say no 15 years from now curious See if the same people that are saying no today would say no 15 years from now. Curious. So if the same people that are saying no today would say no 15 years from now. Okay, Tyler, that includes you by the way. Okay.

Do you think Hunter Biden would be okay with that? If Hunter Biden had a chip in his body, he would have never lost his laptop. Exactly. Period. I don't know. I don't think he's good- So I've noticed you don't answer things

that you don't know the answer to. Or you don't speculate. I don't like to. Well, I've it's that about you. I worked in the service industry for 25 years. At Apple, they taught us, you know, don't ever speculate. The best way to gain a customer's trust, get their confidence because that's the most important part of the repair is letting the customer know that you're trustworthy, you're able to communicate their problem and explain a solution, set an expectation and then achieve it. And speculating has no place in the service industry.

I mean, sure, you can, well, it could be this, it could be this, it could be this, as long as you're right, and you can back it up, then you're fine. But until then, it's best not to speculate. Well, when you're when your podcasting career blows up, you're going to have to start speculating because that's all we do. I don't want to. You don't want to part. Did you guys see what's going on with Canada or you follow on this story? What's going on Canada? So yesterday, I just put a tweet out of the night. There's a bunch of guys in Canada that are sending me stuff. If you want to go to the story, it is page nine. Okay. If you want to go to page nine, I don't even know five page nine. It says, oh, page six. Okay, here we go.

So, um, there you go. Rogers Network resuming after major outage hits millions of Canadians. This is a Reuters story, July 92 days ago. Rogers telling communication said this network was beginning to recover late on Friday after 19-hour service outage at one of Canada's biggest telecom operations, shut banking, transport and government access for millions drawn outrage from customers and adding to criticism over its industry dominance. Nearly every facet of life has been disrupted with the outage affecting internet access, cell phones, landline phone communication,

connections, some callers could not reach emergency services via 911 calls. Canadian is crowded over, crowded into cafes and public libraries that still had internet access and hovered outside hotels to catch a signal. Pretty wild for this to happen, 19 hours. When I read it, I almost thought it was a movie and I'm like, no, I messaged people people is this really happening? Yep, this is exactly what's going on in Canada right now So there's one network Rogers is it that's all they have Tyler Rogers network is that their main network that they have

I'm pretty sure that I've never even heard of another one except so ladies send me a message here's what she said private message She said Sawyer tweet Canada, I think you'll find people here who are afraid to speak up publicly. It's very scary. We're working on an exit strategy to get assets and family out of the country. Thank you for posing. This question, hopefully people will start talking.

Also, love your work, especially your content webinar, preparing for a recession, but I definitely love Adam the most. So here you go. That I added at the end. I appreciate that. Okay. Here we go with about 10 million wireless subscribers and 2.25 retelling and subscriber Rogers is the top provider in Ontario, Canada's most populous province and home to the biggest Toronto city, Toronto Rogers BC and tell us control 90% of the market share. Okay. So this

is not just a small company that this is happening to. No, and I've heard people are pretty upset with the monopolization of that they have. I mean, the outsize market share that they control. Is that 90%? They control 90% of the market share. Full on monopoly. What point has it become a monopoly? 40%? Exactly. There's different numbers that you hear about, 46%, 64%, but there's different numbers. But 90% is absolutely monopoly. Well, and you messaged this yesterday in Instagram and Raoul came back with a pretty interesting point

that this is what, remember Dr. Peter Pry talked about, if you had a, not a solar flare, but brought the network down, it would be something equivalent to this, shutting down the banking systems, television, phone lines, everything would shut down. It's pretty interesting.

I'm gonna show you something, Tyler, I'm gonna give this to you, put this up on the big screen so people can see it. This is a shout out to the Prime Minister of Canada. He was walking in Canada and people were shouting at him and it was not friendly because when I posted this a bunch of people from Canada sent me a bunch of tweets, look at this data here.

Okay, debt from a pre-trudeau, all the prime ministers combined since 1867, 630 billion dollars in debt, just under Trudeau, 662 billion dollars in debt. under true though six hundred and sixty two billion dollars in debt that's a big number right there i mean true though must be very competitive to put a number number like that k you know and and by the way if you if you keep doing that to a country that doesn't have the biggest gdp in the world six six six six six sixty two in america's what nothing

but six sixty two for a canada that's a lot of money right there. Well, now it's nothing. I remember during 2008, the recession, when we were going to bail out, whoever we were bailing out, it was still in the billions. It was still like 900 something billion. Now we don't bat an eye when we're cutting checks for trillion. We printed what, five trillion dollars since the pandemic. So we're in the trillions now. They're still working with billions.

They've got some catching up to do. By the way, you must have some strong, I mean, we've sat down with Jordan Peterson here, Canadian. This was during the truckers revolt that they were doing in Ontario. We've had Dr. Gad sat here recently, basically saying, I've gone into business with the Canadian government. They take 60% of my earnings. I run into Canadians all the time. I had a couple, saw a couple of buddies that I ran into in my office.

We can basically say, I got to get the hell out of this God for taking country. What the hell is going on in Canada? Is it just become so far extreme socialism? Is it, is it just become so far extreme socialism? Is it true though, is just an authoritarian disguise? Does a nice guy, what do you think is happening in Canada? You asking him or you? I asked you new. I mean, it's exactly what happens when he gives somebody too much power and their motives are not positive motives. The results are this, you know,

what's taking place in Canada. And the reality of it is a lot of people that were messaging me, they were all saying the same thing. We're trying to figure out a way to leave here with our assets. Okay, when we left Iran, this is the story that most people don't hear about. Maybe you have stories like this as well. A lot of people, when they left Iran, the people that left pre-shaws revolution, they left with their money.

But the people that left post-shaws revolution and Chomeini came in, they couldn't leave with their money. So the money was left. So if you'd like, let's just say you sold the property in Iran and you wanted to bring your money to the state, that wasn't easy to do. So imagine you're living in Canada, you got a million bucks there.

You got half a million, you've been working 40 years and you got a half a million bucks, you've got a million out of save. You're trying to come to the States, you know, you want to take that out. I don't know if that's the case, but if they're going in this direction of doing things like this, it's a scary side. Look, again, it goes back to the following. Don't just vote for somebody because they're attractive and they speak well and their father was a former PM whose mom had a fling with allegedly Fidel Castro with Fidel Castro, which he looks just like.

Dirt beaters and shot that down. Well, he can't shot it down because he's from Toronto. He doesn't want his funds to be protected before he leaves. Mm-hmm. Well, look at that right there. I mean, that's that's way too close. Way too far. Even said it. That was exactly where I was headed. What? To the show. To the show. To the show. To the show. To the show. Yeah, so look, you know, if you're... What's the difference between a capitalist and a socialist? When it comes on to their philosophy speaking publicly,

what is the difference between a capitalist and a socialist? When it comes on to telling the world publicly? What's the difference? The socialist says, I'll do everything for you. The capitalist says, no, thank you. I'll do it myself. The capitalist is very comfortable telling the world he's a capitalist. The socialist keeps it a secret until he has enough control to say, all along, I was about socialism. There's a video that a guy sent me yesterday. I'm going to send to Utahler to play

this of Maxine Waters. Did you see that video or no? So this is from 2008 when the marquee crash takes place, which by the way, you're going to see this happening in America today, Tyler, I'm texting you to you to put it up. Just show the text of what I just sent you. So always there's a hearing. And Maxine Waters is talking to the CEO of Shell. And the CEO of Shell is saying, look,

if you keep doing what you're doing, five dollar gas prices are gonna be a thing of the past. This is when, oh wait, 14 years ago, look at Maxine Waters' response. Just put the audio up and just play it from the beginning. Watch this folks. To the American people, because of the inaction of the United States Congress,

ever increasing prices unless the demand comes down and the five dollars will look like a very low price in the years to come if we are prohibited from finding new reserves, new opportunities to increase supplies. And guess what this liberal would be all about? This liberal will be all about socializing, will be about basically taking over

and the government running all of your companies. T to the Americans people, so did you see she couldn't even call? No. So all I'm saying to you is folks, speculation, speculate okay that's I can speculate you don't have to speculate let me do the speculation you stick to the red headed I'm gonna stick to speculation you ready here's some speculation okay if there was a strategy with oil prices to nationalize it what would you do first first you create policies like shutting down the what, the keystone pipeline that we can control gas prices,

shut them down first day one, which they did. Two, you actually allow gas prices to increase, to hurt who, low and middle income families. Three, you blame who, shell, exon, mobile, everybody. Four, you come and you say what? This is why oil should be something that's nationalized and managed by who the government. If that's your strategy, that's the proper four-step sequence to nationalize oil. And folks, you do not want that industry to be nationalized. As much as, you know, they're thinking we're going to go green. We did a video on EV versus gas. The price paid

to go 100% EV. It's going to be on the backs of a lot of workers in what is that one place in Africa? The Congo, Democratic Republic. That's got what, 60% of the coalballed, or some 64% of the world's coalballed, that China bought, that land to this place? Yeah, and all these people that are working. So this is not going to be an overnight thing. You use oil more than you think we do. But the marketing in the way the stories tell them being told, it's different.

So socialize, you just saw Maxine Waters from California, she tried to hold the back, she couldn't do it, she couldn't do it in no way, it slipped up. So, anyways, I wanted to show that video too, because I want all of you guys to go start your week on a good note with positivity, a lot of excitement. Can I make one crazy prediction? Let's go.

Can I make one crazy prediction? So, I just shot a real estate video, okay, at the house. And we had our research team pull up a bunch of data because I'm talking to a lot of realtors, loan officers, mortgage brokers, title, escrow, a lot of these guys. And the video that was made when we called that Dave Ramsey, I like, I cannot be living here saying this and I'm like, well, you know, no problem. You don't have to listen to them. I'm just telling you what we did. Can't tell you crazy stat. Q1 this year, over Q1 last year.

What percentage you think for closures in America have increased Q1 this year, over Q1 last year, 10%. How much you think for closures have increased? Q1 of this year, over Q one of last year, 15%. What would you say? Just guess. That's a lot, by the way, 20%.

I don't know, pick the number. From last year to this year. Last year, Q one versus this year, Q one. How much you think, by the way, Q one, the rates were still okay. The rates have gone up the last two months is what's happened. That's been kind of scary.

How much you think it increased for closures? I'll say 20%. What are you gonna say? North of that. You're gonna say, you wrote 40%. Yeah, I wrote 40%. How about 700%. What?

Q1, 23,000 for closures. Last year we had around 2,500 to 3,000 for closures. Do you hear what I just said? By the way, it hasn't even started yet. And it's 700% for closures, Q1. The data we got on what buyers are doing, what investors are doing, what escrow people are doing, what loan officers don't do.

I mean, I'm, that video is gonna be coming out here in the next week. I think we're gonna be doing a live real estate webinar. I think it's gonna be next Tuesday night, stay tuned, the details will be made. This will be packed, everybody will be on this webinar when this goes on next Tuesday. Here's a crazy prediction for you.

People don't wanna hear it. I think 30-year fix mortgage rates will eventually get to 10% in the next six, 12, 18 months. Okay? We said gas prices 10 bucks, that's one side. Okay, that's becoming more and more possible that it could happen. California, there's $78.

$78 prices over there. Interest rates 30 30 are fixed. Don't be surprised if they crack, 10%. Now, all this stuff said, being said and done, you're gonna see a lot of mess happening. My biggest suggestion to you, I'm telling you, don't overspend, save your cash, go make income, have a secondary income, set that money aside, there's going

to be a lot of opportunities and there's unfortunately going to be some people that are going to be asking, hey, can I get this shop, can I get that job? We had a few hundred thousand dollars in Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, they're going to go through that. This is going to be a very strange and ex-612, 1824. And by the way, for the people that are like, that's crazy, doesn't nobody talking about? Okay, with that. Just if you don't study history, you're doomed to repeat it.

This is exactly what happened in the late 70s early 80s under our friend your friend Jimmy Carter By the way, can you can you do me a favor? Can you do me favor go on go on my Twitter account go on my Twitter account and Matter of fact, let me see if I can send this to you go on my Twitter account Go on Twitter and go up go up go up go up, go up, go up, go up, go up, go up. Play that video. Play that video right above our Maxine Waters video. Just play that video. Pause it first. If you can, pause it first, make it big or make the screen bigger. Yeah. Audio and look at the

date. What's the date? That's three and a half years ago. I already knew it was prior to 2020 because you had the shaved head. This is before you started rocking the great hairdo. I missed that. That was so much easier. So easy, isn't it? Watch this. Watch this. Two things. Some's gonna happen the next five years. And the people that are gonna make massive wealth

are the ones that save cash. So I'm a cash guy. Not always. I'm a cash guy pre-crisis. You're a cash guy pre-crisis. Pre-crisis, which is now. Which is now. Which is now.

So right now is a great time to have a lot of cash here's a rule of zero the rule of zero this is how this is going to be very greedy to embrace because it sounds easy saying it but let me explain the power of the community of the whole of the world and it has even started in 2008 took place a lot of people lost money you know there were talking about the four one kids now the two of one kids I had clients I would go look at their statement, they would say, I only have $380,000. I'm like, that's not bad for you.

She says, well, this used to be $790,000. Well, that's a pretty bad thing right there, and they're 64 years old. What do you tell this person? They got to work for another seven more years. They were planning on retiring for one year, but because they were not fully ready, and they did not take advantage of power zero because in 2008 market tank 38% in 2008 if you did 0% in 2008 that really means you

did plus 38% compared to what the market did. So you have to also be paying attention to the office you're playing you got to be playing office as well of course if you want to create wealth, Office, office, office, office, office, but you got to have a certain strategy on how you can take advantage of rule of zero. So when it does happen, you have more that's sitting for you to say this is my next opportunity to go in because you paid attention to the rule. Okay, pause right there. We've been seeing this for a while from Belly Taman. So if you've been following the content, this has been the message for five years that this season is eventually going to come. In a history of America, since inception, you know how many recessions we've had? Since 1850, you know how many recessions we've had? You know what the number is? 44. It breaks down to be what?

A recession every five to 10 years. Once the last time we had a recession was, oh wait, we haven't had one for 14 years. So that's the data. Recession is very- Go upside, because the quick, forget about cope was not recession. Cove it was just a panufactured. We haven't had a recession in 14 years where over do for a recession.

Don't sit there being naive. So it'll never happen you being negative. I'm just telling you, it's a cycle. Okay, it's a cycle that's coming. Anyways, great podcast. We appreciate you for having a courage to come out and talk to us. 5, great podcast. We appreciate you for having encouraged to come out and talk to us. 5,000 of them out there. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people that want to be on the

desk. Guys again, the house, John Paul, man, with his act in the house. Guys, do me a favor. Go on, are you on Twitter? You're not on a desk right now. What are you on the other side? Go, go ask Bill, go tweet at Bill Mar and just tell him, Hey, can you please have John Paul, Paul Mac Isaac on your show Go and tweet CNN and say hey today John Paul Mac Isaac was on P.V.D. podcast. Can you please invite him to CNN? Host that you respect go ask them. Why don't you bring in in investigate do some investigative journalism?

Why are you not the people that you like the most want you tell him? I would like you to see how you're going to interview John Paul. Mac Isaac different than they did on P.B.D. podcast, but we need more of this conversation being had. Having said that, I think you got a book coming on November 22nd of 2022. Hopefully sooner. Hopefully sooner when it does, audience will be able to find it. But and this is the website to go support.

The Gives and Go. All of it will be in the description in the chat. What's the main call? What's the website call? case on a podcast I give send go so it's like the Christian go fund me and their give send go and just build back mech Isaac you know kind of a play on build back better I love that I love get some usefulness out of the I love that part so I do want to say thank you to everybody that has contributed because bankruptcy no longer looks like my only option. So I'm grateful for that.

That has taken a weight off my shoulders. And now I can focus on trying to hold these people accountable, getting to discovery and making sure that our next election, we don't have this collusion that we did the last time. Well, listen, we appreciate your sincerity, and we appreciate you being willing to come and talk about it. Again, have a great day. We're gonna do this again on Thursday. The Academic Committee came out with a new clip.

If you haven't seen it, go meet Carl. No, no hands, Carl. No hands, Carl. My dad watched it was cracking up. What do you got going on this week? Some interesting ladies won't be here from the Exotica Conference. Yes.

Oh my God. Who's, is there a name that you can drop or no? We have Alexis Texas coming through and some of her lady for it. Audience, you're going in. We're going to be talking about what women are doing with their money these days. That's all types of women.

Okay, all right, that's good. Well, if there's a redhead there, you may have some on. So John, no, but you back. For the record, Gen Socky ruined all. All right, so this was back back. For the record, Jen Socky ruined all the way. All right, so this was back then. This is, you know.

This was pre-sac. Yeah. Have a good day, everybody. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.