PBD Podcast - The Reality Of The Latin Community w/ Rick Sanchez | PBD Podcast | Ep. 169

Episode Date: July 7, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Rick Sanchez, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick to discuss what is like to be a Latino in America, Joe Rogan not allowing Trump on his podcast, Bidens handling of the energy crisis and much more... TOPICS 0:00 - Intro   5:08 - Latinos in America   28:45 - Pitbull messaging to the Latino community    47:48 - Joe Rogan saying he doesn't want Donald Trump on his Podcast   1:08:30 - Who is going to run as president?  1:24:32 - Teacher shortage in Florida   1:33:16 - Biden allowed 5 million barrels from the national reserve to go abroad  1:39:18 - 4 July shooting in Highland Park  1:49:28 - The importance of values and principles Check out Agua Media: https://bit.ly/3RfcZNc Check out Rick Sanchez News: https://apple.co/3arYsgp Watch Vincent Oshana on Twitch: https://bit.ly/3L81YKf Follow Vincent Oshana on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3v5gQDk Follow Vincent Oshana on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3v3ZQgT Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.   To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail] --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

We're live. Okay, fantastic. Episode 169, we are live today with the legendary Rick Sanchez from Miami who has a podcast called Rick Sanchez News on Apple Podcast. He runs a company called Agua, another one that he was a CMO, part of the base. You're upset, my hearing is sound now. Is that the intro? You guys are slipping in.

Hey, messing with you? Is this a prank? The prank crew in the bank? Tell us what you're doing. Can I go or no? You just gotta give me the green one. Oh, that's very good. Okay, sounds good.

Are we live right now? Is this happening? No, listen, they've haven't won too many drinks in a pack. Yeah, they're totally fine. It's a good thing. I'm saying it's never how life works. Anyway, Rick Sanchez is on. If you don't know him, you didn't watch TV. I don't know Miami's like a

He can't walk in the streets of Miami legend. I grew up watching this guy But he's the kicker though the kicker that we just learned is he goes from being a guy with CNN doing all the stuff that he's doing the controversy with You know Cooper or or John Stewart which John said that's not a big deal what he said To be in a CMO of a company that just went public, Kano Health, as a co-founder, that just went public at $4.4 billion valuation, which is kind of cool.

Bottom self a nice place won't tell you where it is, but in a very good place. Rick, great to have you on on the podcast. It's great to be here, Pat. Yeah, you know, I'm a fan. Ever since you since you hit you know people say this to me all the time I did not grow up watching you by the way. Oh, okay, so Adam did you get that? I you know I'm right there with you, but I but I will say this that you've had a very Luring effect on people ever since you've hit the airways man, so you're doing a good job

I don't know what it is But you draw people in dude, so that's a very good thing apparently what Vinnie and Adam try to say today is what what it is, but you draw people in, dude. So that's a very good thing. Apparently what Vinnie and Adam tried to say today is what it is is most people can't guess my age and apparently Adam's friends think I'm in my mid 50s, late 50s. Shocked that he's in his early 40s. Shocked that he's in his early 40s. And it's not that you seem old,

it's just, you carry yourself, you know what I said, it don't just have to recover from it. You already took the shot, own it up, you know, it's totally fine. I should myself hold yourself. You all this said it. Don't why to me. You already took the shot. Own it up. You know, it's totally fine. I should myself hold the foot more than anybody. And I even said it before like being this big, this big of a personality, this big just as a person, he can, he cannot be nothing else, but being this guy like Pat can't be a freaking Uber driver. Because how? Hey, when I'm in the car, but number two, this you, what do you do? I'd be the, I'd be the leader in five stars though.

I'd have 100% you that way. And water's out. You're middle-ears, and people are like, everybody get started with them. I would tell them jokes. I have any charge you didn't back to you. By the way, I can see you as a funniest helper, Uber driver. If we do like a mock, we test them.

We get them to be an Uber driver for them. We record it. That's 100% in a layer. 100% in a layer. FYI, we're a driver in high alia by the way. Yeah, I'm in. Hey, so Vinnie's got a new thing coming out guys. I just want to preface this.

Please do not be offended when it comes out. And if you are, I'm totally okay with that. So Vinnie's got a new skit coming out. And I'm on the road. Well, I don't know where I'm at. I'm on the road. I get a text message sent to me with a picture saying, Vinnie's no joke.

Vinnie's walking around the office in a G-string. I don't know what that is. I have no clue what that is. It's the story of who, what the guy was. Okay, I don't want to give away too much, but the guy that works in the office right, and he was in a freak paper-streading accident. But he's one of those guys who just loves his job. They brought him back and he just said, listen, I don't wanna sue, just let me keep my job

and just don't make me feel weird at work and he's in the office and he doesn't have any arms, so you can imagine what he uses. Anyway, so, oh, it's gonna be interesting to see how the audience responds to it. Anyways, we've got a lot of things to cover today. Rick, I wanna get some of your thoughts and feedbacks. Obviously, you being from you being Cuban,

I wanna know who the most influential Hispanic is get some of your thoughts and feedbacks. Obviously you being from you being Cuban. I wanna know who the most influential Hispanic is that's dictating the direction politics are going in the fastest growing community in America, which is Hispanics. It's the most important vote today that both sides are trying to win over and they're paying very, very close attention to it. Some events that took place in Highland Park, we have to talk about the tragic event that took place in Highland Park this week and

Some of the stuff just makes no sense by the way Rogan's comments on Trump that he said he would never have him on the podcast. They've reached that he said no I'm gonna hear some comments. We had a friendly wager on that. Yeah, we did yeah We and you but you said no though you said no're checking out. I thought you were giving me good odds. Why would I give you good odds? He said he would never do it. Why would I give you good? We'll get into it. Anyways, rep Adam Kinzinger releases explicit, a laced audio of numerous calls to DC office threatening violence, frustrated Democrats, express alarm over Biden's powerlessness. Uh, tens of millions of people are locked down in China.

Governor Newsom enjoys Montana vacation despite LGBTQ state travel ban. TikTok admits China-based employees can access over US user data. This is a weird story. This next one, largest teachers union. Florida is 9,000 teachers short for the upcoming school year.

And then we got a couple other stories that we'll get into. So let's start with what you first mentioned, because I think that's really fascinating. Latinos, right, in the United States, because this goes to what you mentioned a little while ago with Kano Health as well. It's a frustrating time to be a Latino in the United States. We're a community that is somewhat leaderless. And let me just give you some basic numbers. If you're at home taking notes, this is why I am now founding Agua Media with the proceeds from Ken O'Health,

essentially. I don't want to get a yacht and just go around the Caribbean. I want to do something that's important for this country, important as a Latino American who lives in the United States. And it's this. Look, we are the third fastest growing GDP in the world, only behind China and India and ahead of the United States itself. In case you miss that, let me say it again. Latinos in America, if they were a country, would be the third fastest growing GDP nationwide in the world ahead of the United States and only behind China and India and catching up.

In terms of total GDP, Latinos in the United States are the seventh largest GDP if they were a nation in the world. And I know because I know some of the folks that stand for to are preparing the next report that we're about to move up on that list. I mean, and when you look at Latinos in the United States just just general numbers Common age of a Latino in America 11 Wow

Common age of a white Anglo-Saxon in America 58 Where do you think the future lies? I mean you you can look at from a consumer standpoint. I mean the economics are literally Undeniable at this point and yeah, you can look at from a consumer standpoint. I mean, the economics are literally undeniable at this point. And yes, you say 11? 11. Wow. Common age, according to the Pew study of Latino in American.

By the way, common age, not average age. Common age is more of a mode. It's a mode. So the mode is the combination of both the average and something else. So in other words, if you were to look at all the Latinos, what would be the one that would find that would be 11? Which is, without getting too much into the metrics,

you're basically saying white people are getting older and they're dying soon and Latinos are getting younger and hotter. That's why they hired him here. That's exactly why he's. I thought it was more like Latinos have more sex than white people. That's gonna say, they're gonna have to make them

better at making babies. Hopefully it's not the 11 year olds that are. I think the number, don't keep it clean. We could look it up, but I think the number on that is that, you know, if you want to say white people or whatever we want to call them, have index where they're not yet doing one, recreating themselves. They're less than one person in terms of breeding, right?

To use the word that maybe we shouldn't. Latinos, on the other hand, are close to duplicating themselves almost to the point of two. So yes, Latinos have a tendency, maybe it's a Catholic. So please continue, these stats are very interesting. So common age 11, Latino, common age, white is 58. Here's another one that I think is fascinating. Latinos under the age of 41, 95% of them speak English. Under 41.

Under 41, 95% speak English. Not down in L whole of Anna bro. No, glad to know. 80% are US citizens. So the reason I'm saying these things is because it flies in the face of what we see on television, whether you're watching CNN or Rachel Maddo or Sean Hannity, it's all the same.

I mean, it's either looking at Latinos and patting them on the head and saying, good Latino, good Latino. Very good. Oh, we love you. Or on Fox News where they tend to be a little more aggressive in their coverage of Latino because everything is about the border and we got to shut it down because these people are coming over here. Either way, the representation doesn't exist less than 2% of the people who appear on cable news or national news are Latino. Whereas if you look at other cohorts, it's much, much higher. So let's just do the numbers.

Latinos are 20% of the population in the United States. And the next 10 years, we might be essentially one-fourth of the population. And yet, Hollywood casts us 37% of the time as criminals. And 27% of the time as workers, losers, kind of people who are not successful. So they, in a sense, are putting into the mind of the American populace who we are.

And then the cable news channels run with it and do all this other stuff. And what you have in the end is a lack of representation, a lack of being able to understand what this cohort is that lives in America, which by the way, was here before the pilgrims. The first Thanksgiving was celebrated by Spanish people in St. Augustine, not at Plymouth Rock in Massachusetts, and it was 70 years before.

And there was actually a second one in Santa Fe, New Mexico. So the history of Latinos, the numbers of Latinos, the data that I'm sharing with you speaks to the fact that this is a cohort, which in many ways driving the US economy and as you said Vince is going to be driving the next the US economy for a long time. So for me it's frustrating as a Latino seeing this, having my experiences in big media as you mentioned I've worked in Fox I've worked at all these places and I've never seen them being able to grasp this. Now, when I left CNN and I had to do something and I used my brand, which I think is an interesting story as you said Patrick, where I was able to take the Rick

Sanchez brand, people know who I am. I'm a pretty good writer. I know a little bit about marketing and I know a little bit about messaging because I've been doing it all my life. I've interviewed four presidents, Michele Gorbachev, Fidel Castro. I've got three P-bodies, I've got five Emmys.

I know a little bit about this business. So I use that to help create a new healthcare company that we started that just called Cannoh Health. And Cannoh Health has done very well and we started and three and a half to four years later we went public and it's a $4.4 billion company. And when that happened, my wife and I slapped each other fives, and she said, let's get a yacht and take off.

And I said, no, the one thing I've always wanted to do is create a space, an outlet for Latinos in the United States. And that is why now I'm creating Agua Media, a lot like what you guys are doing here, Patrick, which is a space. It's based out of Miami. Based out of South Florida.

OK. So I think timing of Miami. Based out of South Florida. Okay. So I think timing of it is great with what you're doing with AquaMedia. Who would be right now? So right now, when I talk to Hispanics and I ask them who they go to to get their political advice or political philosophies, the Jesus of political philosophies

for the Hispanic community's Jorge Ramos. I mean, it's the guy, right? What made whole? Yes and no. Well, I mean, so who would be the other side? I thought it would worry about that. The only reason I'm gonna push back on you on that is because Jorge Ramos barely speaks English.

So if you go by the statistic that I just shared with you which is under 41. 95% under 41 speak English. Of those, they, I think it's 75% primarily speak English and something like 45% don't even know how to speak Spanish. So those people barely even know who the hell your Jorge Ramo is. But the Jorge Ramo is influenced their parents

and their parents influence the kids. So, well, if that influence us going through what he's done to the parents of so why do you think parents and and and but i think it's important for the audience to know this why don't we go to this person i'll go to the parents i would hurry ramos um what is the difference between a cuban political philosophy versus a mexican versus a porto Rican and versus some others. Honduras, you know, you got other Hispanic, because it's not when you say Hispanic,

they don't all lean the same way. Politically. And you could say, by the way, and, you know, you can say the same thing about everyone, but to answer your question more directly, the Latinos who have come to the United States recently and fled an oppressive political regime, as opposed the Latinos who have come to the United States recently and fled an oppressive political regime, as opposed to Latinos who have come to the United States over the years fleeing from what are oppressive economic conditions, are two different types of individuals.

So, the Cuban comes here, like the Vietnamese comes here, like the Venezuelans come here, which is what we see in Miami for the most part. And they're angry. They're angry that they got a guy like Castro or a guy like Chavez who's taken over their country, who's a frickin totalitarian communist SOB. And so as soon as they get here, they hitch their wagon to the Republican Party because the Republican Party is the one that's always yelling, you know, communist, the communist, the communist, and they come here yelling, communist, the communist, the communist, so it's a perfect match.

That sense, obviously, as you said, is more adherent in the older communities, among the Cubans and the Venezuelans, and the ones who have recently arrived. So that's the reason for that. It's a political feeling. It's almost like I've been put upon. I'm in America. This country is anti-communist and the Republican party is anti-communist. So this is why I'm going to go with this party. The Honduran Americans, the Mexican Americans, the others out west, for example, and even to a certain extent, Puerto Ricans who live in New York, the New York

Ricans, they see it a little bit differently. They've been here for a longer period of time and they're more ingrained and they're less political and they're more economic. So they see the world a little bit differently. They tend to hang with the Democratic Party or the more progressive way of looking at things. And those are the reasons for those two, ideological or political ideologies.

But when you really break them down, everything else, they're pretty much the same. Yeah, they go to the same church. They're both hard working. They're both into family. They're very traditional. All the things about very much so. Yeah, very much the values of the Hispanic community

across the board. I mean, the insurance company we run were 42% Hispanic, and it's not from one, you know, area. It's Mexican Salvadorian Guatemala and Ecuador, you know, Honduras. It doesn't matter. We have them all in a company in hard working, strong family, rowdy, fun to be around, very attractive energy, the way they are, you know, they enjoy having fun. They're good people to be around, but you sit there and you say,

so the party You said about Jorge Ramos. Okay, so he said Jorge Ramos is the ones that are older the population that follows Jorge Ramos's influence Okay, so if Jorge Ramos is older and those who speak English don't follow Jorge Ramos are following aoc So both ways they're getting the same messaging from the same philosophies But they escaped a lot of the stuff that those two are selling them. Yeah, and AOC, I don't see here as Latina. I mean, she came out with something last week saying that anybody who doesn't use the term Latinx should not be concerned. What the fuck are you talking about?

I mean, are you crazy? I mean, Latin, first of all, why do we have to change our name? Latina is a beautiful word. Love, by the way. Of course. Latina is a beautiful word. And Latina can't call herself Latina anymore. She has to call herself Latin X.

The language of my parents, the language of my grandparents, the language that comes from Spain, we have to change and all of a sudden call it Latin X because AOC decided that we should be, what the, what the, what is Latinx? By the way, I don't even know, like some think tank, some liberal think tank, somewhere decided we're gonna, why don't you change all the Irish people to Irish acts,

you know? It's never gonna stop in person. Persian acts, you know, what the hell are you on? I don't know, don't try to figure it out. I mean, why would do, we get the act. And the crazy thing is, I'm telling you right now, AOC, once she gets to that point, she's gonna run for president and that type of person with her hip and texting and tweeting.

Those are the type of people that are gonna win the presidency when it comes around to their time. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. And let me tell you something else about Latinx. The only people who use the term Latinx are not Latinos. Yeah, exactly. Of course, there's one.

Three percent of Latinos don't even know what the hell it is. And they all wanted it. I saw 98 percent of Latinos don't want to be called Latinx. No, they hate it. So this is what Patrick is getting at. Can I? Who the hell out there is creating the rules for Latinos

because they're obviously not Latinos? Well, let me ask you, because I think this is going to be a story. It's starting to mean to go out of the country. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,'s starting me to go. No, no, no, it's great. You're killing it. What I think you're saying is and what past question was is that Latinos are not monolithic. No, it's a very diverse group. But before you get too far on being not monolithic, who the hell is? Yeah, no Americans monolithic. But but but that's my point is that I think there's a place where I can bring them together with agro media. And that's why we're doing Aguimedia. And that's why I do stories, and in the middle of the stories,

I stop and tell the viewer. Let me give you a Latino perspective on this story. So whether I'm doing foreign policy, Ukraine, China, Locacea, what I do is I try to do what everybody else has always done in this culture, except Latinos. We've been up in a lot to do it. Go into the media, mainstream, or whatever the hell you want to call it. Go into the media, mainstream, or whatever the hell you wanna call it,

and tell a story with a little bit of our perspective, a little bit of our juice, a little bit of our DNA, because there ain't nobody out there doing it. The last guy who did it was some dude on CNN, named Rick Sanchez, and they fired him, and they've never replaced him. So you don't see anymore, there's not one guy on television in America who happens to be Latino anymore.

They don't exist. You don't consider how Aldo Rivera, God. Is he still alive? He's so, hey, Persephone. No, actually, you know, he's a he's a good guy. He's a good guy. But, but to say that he has a national product guy, there is not a bigger platform for Latinos. I mean, they're 30% of America. You're saying or 20%? 25. Why aren't they're numerous Latinos on TV? That is the question for the ages. And that is why Aqua Media was born.

And that's why Saltra, Hio and I have come together to create this entity, because I think if ain't nobody else gonna do it, maybe it's time we do it ourselves. So we wanna create something, akin to what you guys are doing here, where we're able to essentially find spaces in the media where we can tell all the stories that everybody else is already hearing,

but with our DNA, our perspective. What do you think was what worked for Jorge Ramo? What made Jorge Ramo as famous as he is today? That's influential in the Hispanic community, Latino community as he is today. Slam dunk, first of all, let me start with this. Great guy, great journalist. Adheres to journalistic principles. Fourth right. Telegenic. Handsome. Looks good. Mexican. So all of that was there.

So from a casting standpoint, he's cast right. But here's really the most important thing. When, when, when somebody had the brainstorm of thinking, you know, it's funny. We've got all these, we've got all these Oye's living in America, right? We've got all these Hispanics living in America. And they don't have a television channel. They don't have a television network. So let's begin something called Univision. So the essence, the creation, the business idea of to flourish a concept of a Spanish speaking television network was brilliant and once they did that and they implemented the news and they chose Jorge Ramo whether it had been Jorge Ramo's or anybody else it would have been successful. It was more

successful with Jorge because he was cast correctly. So that's it. Right place, right time Patrick. And then his messaging, how is his messaging connecting with the Hispanic audience? Because all that I get, all that stuff I get, fine. But he's more than just looks and a guy that gets on and talks. He's got strong opinions, he's got strong beliefs. How did that connect with the Hispanic audience

to what it has? Well, it's funny, a lot of the folks that I've hired I've taken from Univision because, you know, terrestrial television for the most part is kind of, you know, weakening, shall we say. So there's a lot of people who are real smart out there who are available. So I get the conversations with a lot of these guys and they tell me what it was like in the beginning when they first started. But let me give you my opinion.

I don't want to be like Univision. I don't want to be like Tel Amundo. I don't want to be like Jorge Ramos, though I love Jorge Ramos and we're good friends and I respect the hell out of them. Because what they have had to do for their audience is bring it down, Patrick, to victimization. So if you were to do a content analysis of their newscasts, for example, or their content in general, what you would find,

is that they tend to do the woe with me a lot. This poor guy was put upon, was stopped by police and beat up and he's the lead story. This lady didn't get her food stamps, et cetera, et cetera. So rather than what I think is the message that I've been talking about here, Latinos are driving the US economy. We are leading an entrepreneurship. You are, Latino is more apt to start a business in America right now than any other cohort. Latinos are hiring people at a faster pace than any other cohort. Again, you're not hearing that

from War here, I'm also in the division. You're getting the victimization stories. And that in and of itself plays into the scene of old poor guys, poor Latinos. I don't want, this should not be about poor Latinos. Oh, look at them. Rachel Maddo is patting us on the head. It should be about look at these mother, look at these guys, look what they're doing, look how they important they are to the US economy, and rather than putting up a fence, and keeping them out while we send our jobs to Vietnam, we should be letting them in and saying,

hey, we need to start more plants and creating people here who work their asses on. I got a question for you, so let me push back on that a little bit. Okay, so the woe is me, oh my gosh, I look there and there, never looking at us, they don't do anything for look at poor, we are look at is me. Oh my gosh. I look there never there never looking at us. They don't they they don't do anything for look out Poor we are look at this we are okay. We are seeing MSNBC is replacing Rachel matter with Alex Wagner I believe so they're going to complete different direction with Rachel matter

That announcement came back yesterday, right? You're starting to see MSNBC and CNN kind of sit there and say The Russia scandal that we keep talking about kind of backfire down us guys. We got to go a different direction. You kind of see in Zuckar had to get fired. Somebody had to get fired to show that well the whole guy behind all of this stuff was Zucker and then crew, Komo was gone and this guy is gone and that guy is gone. So they have to revamp the whole imaging because they realized that messaging didn't work for CNN or MSNBC.

Rogan is destroying them. Tucker is destroying them and that's just the truth. Podcasters are killing them, Shapiro is doing laps around them, and I can give you a bunch of these other statistics. You see them you're in the world, right? Meaning that messaging didn't resonate with their audience. My question for you is, why is Ramo's messaging of, what was me resonating with the Hispanic audience? Because they speak Spanish and we're also going to go. There's only two networks, Telemundo and Univision, and they basically spit the rating. So, if all you have is a store, if you have three supermarkets, and 50% of the population

is Latino in your neighborhood, and one of them is Hungarian and the other one is Gringo and the third one is Latino. Where's that 50% gonna buy their goods? They're gonna buy it at the Latino store. You can say, make the same argument for Univision and Telemundo. They just happen to be placed in such a place where that's the only place you can go to get your stuff. Unfortunately, for them, that population,

the population that only wants to get their information or their content to Spanish is diminishing, if not dying off. To a certain extent. Do they, do you know, as a univision, would you say univision and tell them on to the, do they lean left? Hardcore.

Hardcore, both of them? Sure, sure. I mean, it's not even a question. I mean, it almost, they almost have to. I mean, you're talking, I mean, what are you gonna, a guy who came to the United States last week came here for economic conditions. The story that you write for him and prepare for him

is usually one more of, as I said earlier, more of a wall with me kind of story. And that's where I don't like the victimization thing to come in. And that doesn't mean that I want to lean right either because I don't think that's correct either because unfortunately, there are too many forces on the right including my buddies

over there, my buddy Tucker at Fox News who too often don't understand the things that I'm talking about right now, Vensy, where essentially they're, you know, they speak of Latinos as if they only think they could say about Latinos is that they crossed the border last week, they came here and they're going to rape your daughter. And I'm sorry, but that's just bullshit, you know. So just like I criticize the left or progressive media, whatever the hell they wanna call themselves for representing Latinos,

you look at some of the messages that are coming out of the hard right media and it's like, guys, come on. I don't think that's what they're saying. I don't think they're saying people are gonna come from Mexico and they're gonna do this. I think they're saying these guys that have a record of this San Francisco, why are you letting them out again?

And again, and again. And why are you doing that one story? I can show you statistics right now that shows that not only are Latinos under indexing and crime in the United States, but they're actually like in last place when it comes to committing crimes. And you know who commits the fewest crimes?

Immigrants. Illegal immigrants as they call it. They're not turning out in the right or out of the way. They live in the shadows, but every time And you know who commits the fewest crimes immigrants illegal immigrants They live in the shadows, but every time one undocumented immigrant has a UI or has something Front page But wait a minute that's not the story should be doing. Wait a minute. Okay, so so go there so go there So if you're saying but they're doing the same thing or here. I'm doing right but I get that But what I'm saying but what the difference is the messaging is, you don't need the government to take care of you.

Ramo says message is, you know, all these other guys is, hey, we need the government to do more for us. No, you need to go take your work ethic and do something for yourself like you did over there because you guys are known for being hardest workers. Correct. So go do something with your life. Not always me, let me go help you out all the stuff like you said earlier.

But go on there. You're a little above. But say the border part. Just say the border part. Okay, let's talk about the border. So if you're saying illegal immigrants are the least to commit crime in America. Undocumented. Undocumented.

Okay, so why don't we just open the border and let everybody come up here? I think that would be ridiculous and stupid. I'm not happening right now. A minute, but why? If they're the least to commit crimes, let's just open it up because they're the least to commit crimes. Well, no, I think the, I was using reducto-y or absurdum to make a point. Right.

I mean, I'm using a logical argument that says, if you're going to argue that the biggest problem we have in America right now is we're about to hit a recession because of inflation which is caused by the supply chain where we don't have any goods that are made in this country. How stupid is that? We can fix that overnight. We have the best workforce in the world right now here. Latinos. The best workforce in the world. They work two, three jobs on average. The average non-Latino in the United States, we could barely get them to sign up for a job at Target making $17 an hour right now. So what does that tell you?

We have a reliable, capable workforce that we are underusing. Think of a business person, that we are underusing, and we could employ them somehow by intelligently figuring out how to get the right amount of people over here from Mexico or wherever the hell so that they can help our economy And am I saying does that mean oh just open the border willy nilly and let them all in here including the badasses and the pieces of crap? Obviously not I think what but neither party neither republicans or democrats have sat down

With the exception of Ronald Reagan who was the last guy to do this and say let's come up with a cogent Intelligent way of being able to control the border by allowing a certain amount of people in based on the necessity of our country. At that time, we can't even get that right, Patrick. But you know what, because you said in telling him, you said intelligent way to do it, they can't intelligently find out, they can't.

And I just moved here from California and what's happening there, they're especially this administration's attitude just like just come on in and then I ask the question, it's everybody, what is their goal? Are they just telling these people, hey listen, when they come in, just remember, we let you in, we didn't give a, we didn't wanna vet you

or anything, vote Democrat. That's what happens, bro. I just left there. The problem is neither party can come up with a collision plan that works. You know who's messaging, you know who's messaging to me is extreme. Like I don't know if he has any aspirations or not, but the way he gives his messaging is so freaking attractive to increase

to improve a population or community is pit bull. The way pit bull talks about how he was growing up, listing to Tony Robbins in the car with his mom driving down And she was doing what she was doing and he found a way to get out and he did this and he did that and he's driving responsibility That messaging is a very strong messaging that the Hispanic community can Attach to versus hey, they don't do anything for us they don't do anything for this first of all america doesn't owe anybody anything agree agree you you use your work ethic that you have you can do anything you want to

do in america obviously there's you're not going to be the next lebron james if you can jump forty six inches but this is america or if your dad didn't get you into harvard even though you had a sea average because he was an alum there and has connections. So let's be honest about this Patrick. There is something to say about a country that right now is allowing not the finest to become successful, but the ones who come here with deep, I know there's guys like you and me. I came from poverty. Who are you looking to though? Who are you looking to?

The guys that go to Harvard, like who? I'm talking about, I'm talking about, you know, us wanting to make Elon Musk a hero. His dad owned a diamond mine. I mean, come on, let's face it. He is a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he grew a poor, that doesn't mean he grew a bridge. But there is a difference to be fair between a guy who comes to this country has to really work his butt off to make it and these guys who had it on easy street and are looking at poor people

say, crime your river rig, crime me a flip and river. You chose to come to this country. Go to another country. Let me get to straight. So you just said you come to this country and this country has to give you to the people that have been here for a while. It's like me saying no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, what I'm saying is advantage. They should have an advantage. No, no, no, no, no, what I'm saying is that there's an argument that still exists, that there's some things about our country that we can fix to make sure everybody has an equal plan. That's not going to happen though.

It's just not going gonna happen, bro. And I'm telling you right now, and it doesn't have to. That's simple. It doesn't have to improve. Look, for me, we came from Iran to US. The US gave us a green card. We came in. US doesn't owe me shit except for the green card they gave me.

That's it. I don't need to have the same advantage or the same equal opportunity at John F. Kennedy's grandson. I don't need to have the same advantage or the same equal opportunity at John F. Kennedy's grandson. I don't need to have that. I agree. Yeah, so I agree. So I am your story. My parents made $10,000 combined.

Yeah, but you were poverty. I get that, but that story needs to be told. Not the story of we need to figure out a way to make it equal. It's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. Like well taken. It's just not for me to say, hey, it's unfair that, you know, we need to make it equal that LeBron's kids can play basketball because they're, yeah, I'm totally okay with that. I'm totally okay with that.

If they're only five feet tall. But the point, so something like Shannon Sharpe says one time, he says, look, I understand the argument. I was born with this body. I'm a bad, I got a badass body. And it's unequal opportunity to you and I versus Shannon Sharp. You look at the guy, he's just got it, right? So what we're gonna say, hey, work out less? Hey, do me a favor, do a little bit less legs. Can you run a little slower? Can you, no, that's not, this is how it was created.

So for us to come here and be able to compete, Elon Musk was an immigrant when he came here. And Elon Musk was able to build a company and we should actually get the kids. Again, this goes back to a conversation we had a few months ago where we have to be careful who we turn into hero where our kids aspire to be. If we demonize people that are heroes, our kids don't wanna be like those people. So let me just say this. Yeah. Let me just say this.

Maybe this is the way I should present my argument, pushing back on you a little bit. Sure. That it's all about. Yeah. We're all equal and everybody's the same and we all get to the same place and it's all about your merit, which I understand. And if it's a meritocracy, and if it's truly a meritocracy, I'm all for it.

But if we live in a country where a specific company can get subsidies from the government, because they lobbied certain politicians and those politicians accepted the money and then allowed that company to have an advantage over my company in a corrupt way, then we gotta fix that. And some of that is happening in America today. Well, you're talking about lobbying and corrupt capitalism. I'm talking about if you could make the argument that everybody- There's no way that Pat's gonna disagree with you on that.

That's something that Pat is advocates against nonstop. We have a lobbyist, yeah, exactly. Two weeks ago, I'm so against what the lobbyists are doing. But, yeah, so all I'm saying is within our system, there are advantages for certain people, that's our money. Okay, those are two different stories. I took it out of the immigrant basis.

No, I get that to me. What I think, those are two different stories. What I think your perspective is, and this is just me sitting on your right for two years now, it's all you owe me, once you let me in the country is the opportunity to succeed or fail. Yeah. Just you let me in.

And you know, they say nobody cares work harder. That's basically your perspective. No, for you let me in. Thank you. It's on me now. And Pat, your mom and dad, they, it's like, right? They had to wait in line and they had to wait till they get their card and they came in here.

Yeah, right? Yeah. But by the way, that's absolutely amazing. We lived at a refugee camp for a year and a half. By the way, you know that everyone at this table has the same story. My family led, fled Eastern Europe in the 1920s and all settled here in America. Your family fled Cuba, his family fled Iran.

My parents came on a boat for 30 days. Immigration gets complicated though, guys. And that's why I keep going back to, we need a system to make it make sense. Because right now it doesn't make sense. And here's what happens right now. I'll give you an example. There's a company in Dalton, Georgia.

It is the carpet mill manufacturing place of the entire world. When their workers all left or died or got old from the Appalachians who were here from World War II. Their kids said, Dad, Mom, I don't want to work at the mill. I don't want that job. So the entire industry was about to dry up. That industry found a way to go to Mexico and recruit people who came to this country to

save the carpet mill industry, which is now thriving once again in Dalton, Georgia. I went there and I talked to the people in Dalton, Georgia. I said, What do you think of these people? They said at first we are very concerned, but now, you know, the guy who runs the dry cleaner, the guy who's a chamber of commerce, guy says, they come into work earlier, they leave late, they always pay their bills on time,

they filled up our churches, they're great to have in this community. So, and here is a company that illegally went to Mexico and recruited undocumented immigrants to refill their positions that Americans apparently didn't want. There's a story there that tells us something. I'm not sure what it is, but I think part of that story is the business industry. Some people on the right or on the left would say, look at those people, those business

people in Dalton, Georgia, those bastards look what they did. But yet at the same time, they help our country become better by getting these people here. So we need a system that allows the people of Dalton, Georgia, those businesses to do that correctly, illegally. I tell you what though, I think, I think. Does that make sense? Yeah, but I think the community that wins, there is a Hispanic community, because so if people who are born in America, let's just say they're white, and they don't want to do the work of 17 bucks and are a target, don't do it, I'll do it. I'll take that job.

We're totally fine, I'll take that job. That's my dad, but here's the difference. Here's the difference. In the military, when you get out of the military, sometimes a challenge with vets is they get out, they've been conditioned to be government employees, and when they get out, they learn hork to be government employees, and when they get out, they learn work ethic, they've learned to work together as a team, they've learned

all the stuff, but they're small thinkers. So they get a job at the UPS, after they come out of the military, I made it. Hey, I get those additional 10 points on the test I take. Hey, I go become a cop, hey, I go become a firefighter, I go become this, I've made it, and that's it, and that's all I do. No problem. But you learned the most difficult thing to be able to compete in a market place, which is working hard, working as a team and leadership.

That, I'm free enterprise can help you do a lot. So the challenge becomes, Hispanics are willing to do those jobs, you gotta think a little bit bigger. And the Hispanic voices like yourself, like the Ramo's is, like those people out there have to say, hey, why don't you go compete with Musk? Instead of saying, poor you, you can't compete with Musk. Bull, stop saying that.

I can't stand it when people say stuff like that to me when I was a kid coming up because I'm supposed to be afraid of somebody. Stop saying that kind of stuff. Did I hit a nerve with this? No, no, no, no. I should not have said that. The point, the point I'm trying to point.

I've got your point. The point I'm like, when I went to India, I went to India and I spoke in India four years five years ago. And I'm speaking at IIT Institute. It's like their MIT, which is an insane school. 5,000 people are sitting there. The chairman of a state bank of India,

which is actually chairwoman Arun Dattibachari, 420,000 employees, I believe. They have some 240,000 employees they have. Then Divyong Turakia, who's a young billionaire, they're him and his brother around the cover Forbes. And I'm speaking with these guys, and I said, look, here's a few things. Here's what's about to happen.

You guys gotta realize you have a bigger audience, your average ages 24, 25, 26, you're the youngest, China's 36, and we're 36, China's 38, they're aging, you're not, you're young, you're learning about capitalism, you got a guy, Modi who was letting you go out there and compete in a few years, decade or two, there's gonna be someone showing up now that you're rich,

your wealthy, your economies kicking everyone's ass to say social living, to better way, race taxes, all these other policies, gonna start making you feel sorry for yourself and don't. You can compete with everybody. Go compete. Don't let any freaking news guy politician, any other person make you feel you cannot. So for me, I agree, the voices of the Hispanic community,

the leaders need to say, hey, what's so special about Elon Musk? Go beat him. Correct. What's so special about this guy? Go beat him. What's so special about Obama? Go beat him.

Be a president younger than him. Instead of saying, well, you know, you know how it him. What's so special about Obama? Go beat him. Be a president, younger than him. Instead of saying, well, you know how it is, it's not fair, then no, no, no, no, no. Go whoop their asses. Because half the battle is somebody believing in me that I can't pull it off. So all it takes, that's all I'm saying. So my idea is, yeah, my idea is more important.

That's the way we are exactly in the same place on that. In fact, the story you just told and the story of Cano Health, a story of a company that started just five short years ago and is now one of the leading value-based care companies in the United States. It's a story of Latinos, immigrants, Mexicans, Cubans, then as well as Puerto Ricans coming together and starting a company and now doing what it has done where it is the fastest growing healthcare company in the United States.

So it's exactly what you just said. It's just believing we could. By the way, your story, your story, that is a big inspirational story, it's the following story. Your story that is even bigger than what you just talked about is you chose to recreate yourself. Just 15 years ago, whatever, 12 years,

I don't know the exact timeline, decade ago or so. You know, hey, big it, you cannot believe you said this fired. Hey, you know, Anderson, come back, no. Hey, this, this, and then you chose to go and say, okay, instead of being, whoa, oh my God, feel sorry for me. No, you know what, I'm going to go on free market. I'm going to make my money.

Then I'm going to build a media company. Then I'm going to show back up because I got a message. There is a value in the message of choosing to recreate yourself. That recreating process, you seem very happy right now in the camera. I am sure behind closed doors there was nights that was not too happy. I'm sure there was nights where you were really like, what the hell did I do wrong? I'm trying to be the guy that's bringing an audience here.

So you chose to recreate. And I think we can all also recreate ourselves after a big setback we had in our lives. After CNN fired me and not a single company would even look at me. And I called and they would say, God, you're really talented and you're very good on camera. But we just can't hire you.

And it got to the point where we lost our house. And the children were, you know, having a tough time. And I remember, at night, I didn't want my kids and my wife to see me, so I would go in a closet and I would close the door and I would cry. And I would try and figure out a way to get out of it. And what I did was I, I, I remained myself and I figured, you know, if I can't be a journalist and it's all I know, I'll be a CMO because what I know is a journalist messaging, writing, communicating is transferable. And there are people in America who might be listening to the sound of my voice right

now who may have just lost their jobs or maybe looking for something else. And they need somebody to tell them that they do have the skills inside of them and they don't need a handout and they don't need to complain and they don't need to cry, woe as me, they just need to find those things within themselves and then use those to stretch themselves to do something perhaps different than they've ever done before. And that's what I did. And I triangulated my brand and I went to companies and they said, I'm Rick Sanchez, I know how to do a television show. And I also have a healthcare company.

Why don't you let us do a television show on your station? And you don't have to pay me what you think you have to pay me because I'm kind of desperate right now, but give me 50% of your evils. Give me 50% of your advertising hole. We'll take that advertising hole, we'll fill it with our commercials. And that's how we grew our company. And, Greg, I think there's the main story. I think there needs to be more voices like you,

more people like like, like we don't really hear that many stories of the Latino, you know what I'm saying, getting to that point, there needs to be more outlets like you saying these stories. So those younger people, those 11-year-olds that are coming up can hear stuff like that and just like like Pat said,

it ain't a victim, it ain't whatever, you could do whatever the hell you want in this country. There's no image holding you back, there's no like, the man is just you, stay focused, and you could do it. If you could do it, then you're golden. And he hit a court when you said that, Pat, you made me think of it a little more.

I mean, but that's the message, though, bro. Like, we forget how shitty life was a decade ago and how hard it was to recreate ourselves, recreating yourself as a form of saying I'm not good enough for the next level. None of us like to say I'm not good enough for the next level. It's painful, it's emotional, it hurts our ego. We have this ego that's like this material that's so flimsy

that if it drops a cracks and like we're all trying to protect this ego of ours. No, but again, tremendous respect for you to do and what you've done to go from there to being here. I'm very happy for you and I hope you keep kicking ass and taking a walk to different levels with the message and you guys are trying to do. I'm glad you shared that with us, by the way,

I appreciate you for doing that. I was great, congrats to your success you shared that with us, by the way. Appreciate you for doing that. I was great, congrats to your success for going from that closet, crying to now being where you are, where you got your place that you got and your family celebrating it. And I know the feeling of what it is to do to high five and say, babe, what are we gonna do?

And boom, you have the choice to go out there and kick it and just relax and you're saying, no, I'm gonna go lace them up and I'm gonna go for one more run. That's hard to do when you're wanting to back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think, I mean, Rick Sanchez news is an opportunity for us to tell the stories like the ones that you and I are talking about now.

Latinos are mules. We're mules. That's what we call ourselves. That's what me and all my Latino friends. We just want to work. Just give me a chance to work. Give me a job. Give me two jobs.

Give me three jobs. When I first started after that episode that I just shared with you guys, I had four jobs. I started in the morning teaching at that I just shared with you guys, I had four jobs. I started in the morning teaching at my kids' schools so they wouldn't kick them out of school because I couldn't afford to have them there. American Heritage. Then I, Delray or the other campus. The other campus. The one over implementation. And then I got a job working right between Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity for Clear Channel during a radio show. And then I would go to Fox News hired me

and said we're gonna give you Fox News Latinos, so they had me doing that, even though it wasn't really up and running at the time. And then I do, so basically I was picking up, you know, a little bit here, a little bit there, and then putting it all together to quite try and equate what I was doing. Wow, fantastic.

And that's why Agua Media, I think, is really important. That's so, check us out. Yes. Real quick, if we may. I'm really interested on this issue of immigration, because what we're doing now, obviously, isn't working. We're going to have God knows how many numbers of immigrants

come across the border under Joe Biden's presidency. We're at 2 million plus. We just had the 50 that tragically passed away in San Antonio and the truck. And under President Trump, refugees admitted down by 65% temporary visas were up 5%. But to be fair, under President Trump, those Latinos that were coming over were finally being paid what they deserved. As more illegals come over, the wages fall, you can

just fire one, go get another one cheaper, pay them less, pay them less, pay them less. So, we, Adam often talks about solutions. What is the solution? Because I think that the motto that they're coming over their stealing our jobs is is absolutely incorrect and let's not forget about Caesar Chavez the farm workers of America hate it absolutely hated illegal immigrants, right? He would he would form a line of beta me would send it back. What is the answer to immigration? What's the actual solution? I'm a businessman. I understand data. I understand how to do reporting that gives you essentially a sense of how you're growing your company. The United States should look at immigration the way a businessman or a business woman looks at their bottom line. need, what can they do, how many can I get, how much do I have to pay them, and at any given time, I may have to lay off a few people or bring in a few people. And we've never thought of treating the border and using our data and our computers and our ability to put

all this information together the same way that businesses do. Instead, we have these idiots, these fucking morons in Washington yelling at each other trying to get votes saying the other side is good the other side is bad. All we've got to do is get the right analysis at the right number of analysts data analyst the right number of security expert to put that thing together and we would have the things solved in a week but you know what to really answer your question they don't want to solve it. They don't want to solve it because the moment they solve it, they lose one of their arguments,

both sides, including both the Democrats and the Republicans. That's how I would argue that. I think that's correct. Your audio is low. Can we increase Tyler's audio a little bit? But let's go to the next story. Let's just go to a story now. Joe Rogan.

Okay, let's address that story. I don't know if you guys are following it or not. If you saw what he said yesterday about... He was asked about interviewing Trump. Yeah on Lex Friedman podcast So Joe Rogan reveals if he will ever host Donald Trump on his podcast despite hosting a Group of polarizing figures on his show post a pot steering podcast or Joe Rogan claimed There's one person who he'll never who'll never never appear on this podcast, former president of Donald Trump, the 54 year old comedian,

and UFC commentator was candid during a Monday episode on Joe Rogan experience with computer scientist Lex Friedman. I'm not a Trump supporter in any way, shape or form, the former fear factor host, told Friedman, I have the opportunity to have him on my show more than once and I have said no, every time he added, I don't want to to help him I'm not interested in helping him

So what do you think about this story with Joe Rogan? Well, well he was on the Lex Freeman podcast, right? And that's where I think the whole thing and you've been on Rogan We you know you were texting him yesterday as we were discussing the story that's the the ironic part But the thing with Joe is I don't think Joe is left or right. I think Bernie Sanders has been on the show. As far left as it gets in America today, as far right as it gets as he has Alex Jones on the show, he finds common ground with everybody.

That's the beauty of Joe Rogan is that he could sit there, be completely empathetic to you. Listen actively listen, he's not there to for ratings or to pander. He's just actively listening and it's funny. When you watch Joe, if you're a little bit further left and you start, he was like, yeah, I agree with you.

I agree with you totally. And then if you're a little bit further right, he'll sit there and constantly agree with you. He's very fluid. There's nothing, he's not a hardliner on anything. That's the beauty of Joe. And then speaking of left, I mean, he came from Hollywood, comedy scene,

the comedy scene, the Hollywood. He said he would vote for Bernie Sanders. Yeah. But then on the right side of things, like he does UFC, he's tight with Dana White. Like that's on the right side of things. But you know what he's saying, Adam, with this what I see marked me for interrupting.

But what I see, what I hear when he says that is, that he's living in a silo. And what we need are fewer silos in America, right? What do you mean is living in a silo? Silo is a place where you're only with your own groove. Like a bubble. This might be any further from the truth. But let me just finish.

Silo? No, obviously I know. I know Joe Rogan and I know that he's interviewed all kinds of people. But when you make the statement, I don't want to interview the former president of the United States. You're basically saying to me, I don't want to be associated with that guy. I don't even want to hear what he has to say.

And I think that that's what he has. No, he doesn't want to give him his platform. That's what he's saying. But because in the context of what he's saying, in the context of what he's saying, he was talking about Joe Biden actually. It had nothing to do with Trump on the Lex Freeman podcast. He was basically saying, Joe Biden is a walking dead man. And that he is, that's who he was talking about. And then he was referencing, if you actually saw the clip,

did you see it? No. All right, so let me inform you. He was talking about Biden, and then basically Biden being on Kimmel and basically saying, dude, someone stopped this guy. Like he's just really let's take your path. Go ahead. Go ahead. And then he alluded to the fact, by the way, it was almost like a PS. By the way, as I'm shitting on Joe Biden, just understand something. I'm not a Trump guy. I'm not trying to give Trump a platform. I'm just letting you know where I stand. I've had the opportunity to give Trump a platform. I'm just letting you know where I stand.

I've had the opportunity to interview Trump multiple times, I've declined. That's the context of what it was in. He alluded to the fact that, and then they went on talking about, listen, I give Alex Jones a platform. This guy is a quote unquote, far right wing far right nut job. And he goes, you know, in actuality,

Alex Jones is right 90%, 90% of the time. Yes, he got it wrong about saying all that. Yeah, and he got in trouble for it. Basically, the bottom line is he was shitting on Joe Biden and he used hyperbolic language about him not wanting to affiliate with Trump to basically show, hey, look, is bad as I think Biden's doing, I'm not a Trump guy.

It was shitting on Biden. But it took the context of it. But all politics aside, all I'm saying is, if you're a host and you're given an opportunity to interview the former president of the United States, you should probably agree on that. 100, I agree on that. And if you don't interview the president of the United States,

you're sharing something about yourself that you're living in a certain place where you're not letting in a certain kind of thinking perhaps. I'm not saying I know the Trump is a vile dude and it's done some really vile stuff, but that doesn't mean that if he's a former president you don't give him his opportunity and ask him a tough questions and if he wants to get up and walk out he walks out but i just disagree with the notion of saying i would never interview a former vice president i agree

with all i'm saying i agree with this agreement because trump we talked about when i walked in here trump was recently on a full send podcast with a couple of young guys, one of my friends, Bob Menteries on there, and it got banned two days. It was kicked off. It's like, I just want to hear what this person has to say with all, like listen, it's crazy as it is.

Say what, I don't give a shit what anybody's opinion, have your opinion, but for Joe Rogan, he'd be like, nah, I'm not gonna support him. You're not supporting him. I wanna be able to hear it because're not going to band it on Spotify. We'll actually get to hear the entire interview. I interviewed. Let me hear what you have to say. I interviewed for Del Castro. You think that was easy? I interviewed Gordon Choff. I'll interview Xi Jinping. I'll interview Putin. I'll interview

Boate. I'll interview... Is there anybody you want to do? And as a journalist is to do that. Is there anybody you wouldn't interview? There's anybody that you wouldn't want to give a bigger platform of your microphone. No, so there's nobody that you would no truth is fresh air I mean, that's what we do. I mean if you know Patrick and I've had disagreements during this conversation respectful disagreements We're both men. We can have a disagreement and walk away in shake hands if you can't do that with another human being I think that's kind of on you. And I also think journalism is typically speaking. It kind of degrades the field. So, but that's my opinion. What would you reveal what you said to Joe or texted him? So, what he just said, he doesn't have to

live to those standards in his eyes. Because you said journalistic integrity. I don't think he sees himself as a journalist. Fair. I think he sees himself as, this is my show, it's my podcast. I talk to, I want to talk to, where on the, what, but unfortunately, guilty by association, Joe has become a journalist. I think so, and, but you know, you know, the book accidental millionaire, they wrote about jobs in Wozniak. Joe is a, this is actually a good title for a book if he writes it, accidental journalist.

Okay, this is how he accidentally became the most powerful journalist in America. Some may call it in the world, okay, on the kind of influence that he has. So, you know, but does that mean he has to meet the standards of what the journalistic standards are, he doesn't have to do it. Good question.

Is that mean it's gonna upset his audience? Sure, the audience that would love to see him push Trump back. But at the same time, you ever seen a video when Joe is teaching GSP how to put so much power into his kick? I don't know if you've ever seen this video. It's like a four-minute clip. And Joe's kick, like a beast.

First of all, he's teaching GSP who some consider him one of the top five goats of all time. And he's teaching GSP how to do this kick, but the way he's teaching, the level of precision and his teaching, one cannot be extremely technical and meticulous and detailed and strategic without being able to teach a kick the way he teaches. I know this makes no sense, but in my mind, Jonas, what is

doing? 100 percent. Jonas, what is doing? Listen, I wouldn't be surprised if a DeSantis, a Newsom and a Michelle Obama on his podcast in the next six to 12 months. I think so too. So, I wouldn't be surprised if those guys are going to be on there. I think, you know, he made positive comments

about the Santas a week ago or two weeks ago when he said, I think the Santas will be president. So a week after that, he says that about Trump, maybe he feels the Santas is gonna be the right guy to be the president and maybe he wants to get behind the Santas. And if he wants to do that, that's his guy. He's more powerful. But wait, did you just say that Joe Rogan uses his microphone to influence political thought

in America that he might be that, whether he likes it or not, he has been doing that? Because that's very Macavellian. I mean, if he says, I'm going to say today that Trump is a bad guy that I'm not going to interview, but and tomorrow I'm going to say DeSantis is a great guy. That's not a bad guy. And by the way, I'm not criticizing, like you could do that. So what?

He said DeSantis is a great guy a week ago. He said DeSantis, he made the comments about DeSantis a week ago when he said I think DeSantis would make a great president. And then on this one, he says I would never have Trump on the podcast. And by the way, he's consistently stayed in the same position about Trump for a while. He's not a, he saw Trump as an entertainer.

He saw Trump, he called him Teflon, nothing bothers him, all this stuff. And he handles it, you know, he handles the criticism that it comes. But you know, I'm sure he's had many chances to have Trump on. He hasn't had him up. But the only thing I'm saying is, maybe he kind of wants to influence the next election. And by the way, to be honest with you I think this next debate that comes up All these other guys who you gonna get you're gonna get Wallace you're gonna get who I think the I think the media is dumb

If they don't realize that the next the base stop it media is dumb Yeah, the next debates have to be held by guys like, you know, podcasts form where guys can give a 10-minute answer 15-minute answer 20-minute answer and set it two minutes no American voter wants a two-minute answer They've proven they don't mind three-hour podcasts the America's Not just a million people Hundreds of millions of people worldwide have said we are very comfortable with three-hour podcast So those of us in journalism school were taught about agenda setting. I mean, agenda setting is what journalists do and it's crap.

And I couldn't agree with more with what you just said, Patrick, because unfortunately, more often than not, they set that agenda during those debates. So the candidates don't get an opportunity to be real or talk about things that matter, or even talk about things that matter to the American people. They get to talk about things that have been chosen or screened by those members of the media, the meat the press assholes, right? So, you know, that's not really the conversation

that America wants to hear. I could not agree with you more. Do a free for all, get three or four people, give them a certain amount of time, let them go after each other, and I'll come away with a perspective. And by the way, we say this all the time in the podcast, we hear it from political figures and pundits,

whether it's people on the far right, or the right side, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, to people on the left like Jank Weeger or Andrew Yang, people have been all, and they say, what a refreshing opportunity to sit down and hug. Just talk, go for a couple hours, where it's like, all right, Mr. Biden, you're on the clock two minutes,

and then I have two, oh, four, and he's like, I think I should stop talking now. Every cash, the debate format in this country is getting stale and old, and the podcast format going back and forth for a couple hours is the new thing. I look, and, break just really fast, not to go off subject, but you were talking about the whole agenda and the for a couple of hours is the new thing. I love it. It's just really fast not to go off subject,

but you were talking about the whole agenda and the political driven type of, what from CNN point of, because you used to work at CNN, what was it always that type of, obviously, they have a side, but like from what you saw during like, you know, the Trump and the four years of Trump, what was the difference that you thought from that?

Like was it the same type of attitude? Like, just that hardcore, it's like, it got so destroyed. It got so personal over that. First of all, they put the the same type of attitude? Like, just that hardcore, it got so... It got so personal over that. First of all, they put the guy in office, right? They gave him more media time than any candidate in the history of the United States. They thought it would be funny to put this goofball every time he had a debate or something on camera

because that's how they saw it. They thought he was a goofball. It's a clown. It's good TV and every time they had him on, his ratings went up. So, Jeff Bush would have a news conference and they would take him for 30 seconds. And Trump knew that so he would create

up a good news to front them. You reap what you sow. But then when it happened, they've got their CMO, their Zucker, who's got a relationship with Trump. So now all of a sudden it becomes personal. And now they start attacking the guy every day for anything including the Russia thing which was crap.

And then they end up with egg on their face and not with the hell are they? That's what they're trying to figure them something. For their ratings. We are amazing. We said this, we said this the other day we had the podcast. They better pray because MSN and MSNBC and all these numbers are down. They better pray to God that he wins again. They better because then they'll have more shit to talk about.

Nobody's watching. I wish they would go out and just hire journalists and do journalism again because they once did that back in the 1980s and they were pretty good at it. But today they don't hire journalists. They hire people who look good on TV, political activists or actors. I mean, Cuomo, for example.

I mean, I'm sure he's a perfectly good guy, but I mean, what the hell is he doing doing a television show? Because his brother is the governor. You get a television show. Anderson Cooper used to be the host of a reality show. I can go down the list of people who are not journalists, but are wearing the badge of journalists.

Well, Rick, let me ask you, I don't know what we should be doing in this country. As a journalist, you've been a journalist for my whole life. 40 years, I'd say. All right. It didn't, this whole lack of integrity and lack of professionalism ethics. We talk about what a journalism, what a journalist needs to be doing. It didn't, this whole lack of integrity and lack of professionalism ethics. We talk about what a journalism,

what a journalist needs to be doing. It didn't start, the downfall of journalism didn't start with Trump. Where do you think that started? Like you got canceled in 2010. That's crazy. Where did the lack of being a real journalist? Where did that really, what was the tipping point of that?

To be real honest with you, it happened the day they invented ratings that came in every 15. The Niels and ratings? Or what? Yeah, when you can actually tell and have data on, I had a dancing monkey on, or I did a story about a dancing monkey and my ratings went through the roof. So from now on, I'm going to do a lot of dancing. When was that?

It was like in the late 1980s in the beginning of the 1990s, where they really perfected audience research. So we can know exactly to the moment and to the word, what you got back. Like if we only did this show based on the data says, we have to talk today about whatever Styrofoam cups. So we've got to introduce a topic about Styrofoam cups, and they had to do it in exactly five minutes

when people who like Styrofoam cups are watching. So the moment that the data took over the message, the message became beautiful. And that correct me if I'm wrong, that's sort of around the time when we went from having the big three ABC NBC CBS to all of a sudden CNN is a thing. Ten Tudor starts that or Roger Eels, Robert Mordak start Fox in the 90s. Brilliant, Adam. Think it through. So you have data collection, become a big part of how we do news. You've got really smart business people out there who then start getting into the business

and saying, well, if we can control the data, we can control the flow. We can control the flow. We can control the audience size. We can control the audience size. We can control the ratings. Control the money. Control the profit. Control the revenue.

Yeah. Once they did that, very wealthy people came in and took huge swaths of the journalism outlets on them, which then concentrated the amount of good journalism that was out there. And that's how we got to where. But isn't that capitalism? I mean, do we have a problem with that? Like, let me just, if you don't remember Rick, and one of the famous, I remember say, like I asked the buddy of mine, I'm like,

I got Rick Sanchez coming on the pipe, oh, you remember what Rick Chancer Sanchez was famous for? What, if it bleeds, it leads. It's right. Remember that whole thing? It bleeds, it leads. So, like, it's part of the part of media where it's like, okay, let's go compete, we're CNN,

we're Fox, right? I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. Who's now a businessman? So I understand both parts of it, and I'm tussling with it. You know, Patrick, I'm sure you'll tell you as a guy who's been very successful in business, you gotta go with that, it takes you.

We're in the eyeball business, maybe. I mean, this is what it is. At the same time, has that data been a positive for what is proper information for the American people. Probably not. There's the... You know what I think is winning today, though. I think the reason why Joe's winning, Joe's real.

I think why these podcasters are winning because they're real. And what mainstream media is paying a price for, is they're starting to realize. If you constantly, remember John Kerry had a shot at winning good, being a president, and he wouldn't give one speech, one speech, one place, and next week he gave a complete different message and they said, would a flip flapper? And then boom, he lost.

He should have been the president. By the way, he's part of the Scalam Bones and Yale and all that stuff, and him and Bush, and he's supposed to be a president carry and he lost He looks like he looks like Lincoln if you look at him and hide all that stuff. He just looks Presidents looks presidential. So what did American voters say? Yeah, we we don't like that We don't mind if you change your mind But we don't like you trying to deceive us and go from here to there to there. We're not a fan of that

So you know and today America's just flat out saying, hey, are you real? I don't know if I agree with you or not, but are you real? Okay, cool. Hey, Bill Maher seems real. I don't agree with him, but he's real. I value that.

Russell Brand seems real. I don't agree with him, but I value that. Hey, Joe Rogan seems real. I don't know if I agree with him, but I value that. We are starting to show that there's a lot of value in the currency of being real. There's a lot of value in the currency of being able to reason and have a disagreement

with somebody that you're able to sit on and have that we're valuing those things, which is a great thing, by the way. Those currencies being valued again, it's a fantastic thing because it forces everybody to be what? I identify that you have some flaws, you have some weaknesses, you ain't perfect, and that's the American vote. The American vote relates to that. They don't relate to the perfect person that's looking perfect. No, no, no, no, we don't relate to you, bro. We relate to these other guys that

are flawed. And by the way, what does it matter? They're in a dying industry, right? So whatever they did, you're saying legacy media, TV and everything. Whatever we were just talking about with CNN and all that. It's almost very irrelevant. So what does it matter what they're doing? They're audience is 70 years old.

Yeah, but some of them are being smart enough and they've already done it, made them move to YouTube already. I mean, Zach's presence on YouTube is massive what what what what will matter is is value-tainment That's what will matter. Agua media will matter Joe Rogan will matter the future of media is these types of Expressive conversations, right until something maybe comes along and pollutes us and makes us lose our way well and and that's my point Follow the money, FTM. I mean, so basically what Pat's saying is keeping it real.

That's the reason that Rogan's got a voice. That's the reason that we've got a voice. It's the reason that Alex Jones has got a voice. These third party young Turks has got a voice because they at least keep it real. Because I feel like with the legacy media, and you could speak to this better than anyone, probably on this panel, is that whether you're on Fox

or whether on CNN, I feel like if you pull back the curtain, Wizard of Oz style, it's actually this entire platform is brought to you by Allegra, Big Pharma, who just gave you $10 trillion to average size. So that's the part of keeping it real in legacy media and mainstream media, and it's like, what's really happening behind the scenes is who's really paying the bills,

and that's what it comes down to. I think that's why people don't distrust mainstream media. No, Patrick's right. People need to get a sense that they're hearing you. You. You're gut. So check this out. So California right now is going through what they're going through.

And I feel something happened in the last couple of weeks where the Democratic Party had a meeting with the Obama's. The pure speculation, this is not inside information, I know nothing, I'm just speculating. Because they suddenly went from Obama's to Newsom, okay. They suddenly went from Obama to Newsom. So has it been a conversation to try and convince Michelle to run or not? I don't know. Was it an idea to say high-escue score for a woman that if she runs one of the high-escue scores,

she can win, slam dunk, et cetera, et cetera. And she says, I just don't want that life. Now they're thinking, who do we have to prep? Because Biden's not gonna be running. It ain't gonna be Kamala. America does not like Kamala. I haven't even heard of it. What is she doing?

And America doesn't like Kamala. They don't like Kamala more than they don't like Biden. Like if they don't like Biden, Kamala's beating Biden in likeability, right? I think you may be right. But Michelle may have said no. And they said no one, they said who's an ex-person? They have to go on a draft in this person.

They're like, hey, let's get Newsom. So let's spin the story. What's the story? Well, then they tried to recall Newsom? No. The fact that he won by 63% vote, it just shows that's who America wants. It just shows that's exactly who America wants. America wants a new, some America wants a winner like him and they're gonna spin that, right? The spinning marketing game is taking place. And this whole thing with what

happened with LGBT, I don't know if you guys saw the story or not, which is very interesting that so he goes and takes a vacation where so this guy goes uh... yeah california governor news and enjoy montana vacation despite lgbtq state travel banter some new york port story california's democratic governors and joint some r&r montana this week despite big sky country being the one of twenty states to wish the golden state bar uh... bars official state fund the travel overlaws deemed discriminatory being the one of 20 states to which the Golden State bar,

bars official state fund, the travel over laws deemed the discriminatory against LGBTQ. It was revealed Tuesday that Newsom had gone to Montana where his in-laws own a ranch and was expected back at work July 11th. In response, Newsom spokesperson Anthony York tweeted, the travel ban applies to using state funds. The governor's travel is not being paid by the state,

connecting the two is an attempt at Gacha journalism that has neither gotcha nor journalism. The governor's on vacation with his family. He will return later this week. Despite your statement, it was unclear whether Nusom and his family were accompanied by security on their visit on how the security was paid for if they were there. So these types of stories that are coming out

with what's going on with Montana, another story with when he went to French laundry, a little bit of hypocrisy. Exactly, big time. You say you're for this, then why are you going over here? And the other side is who gives a shit where the guy wants to go on vacation?

But if you want to use the funded stuff, but all I'm saying is, you know, I have a feeling the party. It's like when you're an MBA team and you were hoping to land the rant and you don't get the rant and you get stuck with Lodang, you know, you get stuck with somebody like, shit, I got to take that $21 million of your contract for three years because there's nothing else in the market. People are trying to land Michelle. They don't have Michelle. Nusa, maybe the candidate for 2024. Here, let me give you the, what we're going to be voting for.

Pants, Cheney versus Nusom Michelle. Really? Excuse me? Pants? Pants for President? Pants, Cheney. There's some stories that just started filtering out late, yesterday afternoon that I started reading where Republican donors are going to start, according to some of my sources, making a pitch for matching pence on top of the ticket. Cheney lives on the bottom of the ticket because they are over the Trump drama

and they need two people who are going to be able to solidify the Republican Party and that's the direction they're going in. There's no way Trump will... Rick, I know that you don't believe that. No, I'm just signing the story. Of course, because that's not realistic. I'm just telling you what it is. It does not control the Republican Maga Party.

That's not happening. Like, I almost got hung a couple of weeks ago. So what happens if the establishment pushes that? There's no establishment anymore. That's a good. The establishment's gone. It's a tunnel party. It's a mega party.

But you're under arresting the power of the donors in America. I think you're under arresting the power of America donors. And I'm not a Trump guy. They've got zero pull in that party anymore. Maybe within Washington, the quarters, Penn's Cheney's got no pull with who? The voters,

or the donors. Let me read this here, 2020 for Take a Go, I'm President Penn's Cheney. Why I'm in Gligian, it might just be the thing that saves the Republican party and our Republicans and Donald Trump's descent in a golden escalator in 2015.

Daro has been too many of our-rehe�al Republicans who don't listen to him again. Okay, so great. Fine. If you want to say that, then tell us why Trump is 141 and 11 with his endorsement. He's killing it.

So why, so listen, the sand is if he runs, he's got a shot. I agree. You know, Michelle runs high, high chance of winning as the face, not as a VP, as the face, if she runs.

If, if Michelle and Newsom run, Michelle lead Newsom, she would have to win the nomination. That'd be interesting. If that would have take place. This would be not so toxic, by the way. Obviously. Oh, Penn's, Penn's, Penn's chainy is not, it doesn't never toxic. It would never have. It's just the same way people were saying,

Kasek would not be toxic. Kasek was a, you know, good guy. He's not a number one. Yeah. Biden won, not because he's a number one. Biden at best is a, you know, should, he was directing their operations.

He would be, he's not even a CSU. He's put there by the party. Yeah, he would, put there by the party to go up against, you know, a Trump, but through least damage Trump pulled pants and that doesn't sound good. I just don't see pants, Jamie. I don't see that at all. Yeah, I don't see them coming out of the Republican primary and I don't see Democrats being

like, okay, we're going to take our pants guy. That's it's I guess the argument is they want to go back to middle, right? And, uh, is there, but to your question, which is a really astute question, Adam, is, is there enough juice in the middle to be able to support something like that? Without him splitting the party, I had a conversation with a member of our friend, Joe, he's gonna, he's gonna cry when he hears

this part of the podcast. I called him, we called him on the phone, and I said, Joe, this guy is Magga out. Trump, like Rush Limbaugh is his hero. And I said, who do- May he rest in peace? Yeah. Who do you, and on speaking on behalf of the Magga community,

the Trump community, hate more. Democrats or rhinos? He goes, it's not even close. What do you think his answer was? The most Chinese of the world. He goes, we cannot stand the, the toe-the-line Republican rhinos. It's the Mitt Romney's of the world, the Liz Cheney's of the world, the Adam Kinzinger's of the world. And now somehow Pence, I guess, is in that world now because he's out of Maga World, I guess. He goes, because at least Democrats as wrong as they are have a freaking spine and a backbone.

They're wrong, but they stand up. He goes, those people will bend for anything. This was his perspective. He's basically saying the, and I think most Republicans are MAGA now, but if that's the case, those people are dinosaurs in the Republican party. The Republican party for Reagan, the Republican Party that was no longer exists.

It's Trump's party, it's a Maga Party, and we'll reput they so. But if that's the case, guys, then what will happen if there are enough donors for starters, who seem to be, according to some of the stories that we're seeing filter, that they're a little concerned because the January 6th committee hearings,

that they're trying to take their money away from Trump, that they're going to start giving the money to the Santa's and to Pence and to Liz Cheney, whoever the hell they choose. What happens to the party? Does it disintegrate? I mean, what happens to the Republican Party if that fused something that's happened to the Democratic Party? Because the Democratic Party is also divided between the Socialists and the Democrats. It's a, you know, maybe even three different categories of Democratic party.

You got the Socialists, you got the Democrats, and you got the Tulsi Gabbard and the Andruyan community, because neither Andruyanke nor Tulsi are Democrats. They're more center left. Then you have the traditional Democrats, say, Biden, Hillary, you know, Obama's all that. Then you have the Socialist Democrats, Bernie, you know, Bernie, A. you have the socialist Democrats, you know, Bernie the other Democratic Party with native Ralph Nader's party and cost them the elect right will that now happen in the Republic 2000 was a bush Gore Nader Right 2000, right? Yeah, so so the question here for us is is that about to happen?

I just don't think there's any appetite for pens at the top of a ticket. How many people, how many people, how many followers does Lincoln Project have? No. Not, not Twitter followers, but I mean, is how many, how many, how many followers from Lincoln Project to say, come up with a candidate and I'll vote for you. How big is Lincoln Project's influence? That's what you got to be thinking about. I think Tyler's point is that it's that their influence is with people with money. Go to socialblade.com.

Go to socialblade.com. And yeah, right there. And go up top and type in Lincoln Project. Yeah, Lincoln Project. You just may want to spell it right. There it is. Okay. So this is what?

This is their YouTube channel. Go up a little bit. The way you were going, I'm sorry, go down, go down, go down, go down, go down, go down, go down, go down is their YouTube channel go up a little bit go up a little bit the way you were going I'm sorry go down go down go down go down go down go down go down go down okay there you go Yeah, they're not getting a lot of use now watch when the channel got started by the way very weird when they started the channel Go all the way to the top it says what date January said crazy 2020 now go to Weird right. It's a year before when it happened actually because it's not the that's very pretty yeah now go to the Lincoln project and see their Twitter handle so put the same thing in

except go to Twitter okay go to Twitter and type in Lincoln project the Lincoln project uh you spelled pro cop take your time that the, it's got a Q in it, buddy. Just write slow, T H E, link, or a jack there. Pro, jack, go Twitter, click, uh, okay, you have to put the whole hand together. On behalf of our media, we thank you for bringing this copy in the show. Thank you very much.

You got to put the whole thing together, spell the whole thing to get and you'll see where I'm going with this. Just put their Twitter handle, which is what, project Lincoln? Okay, it's called project Lincoln So go over the perfect there you go and go to social plate type in project Lincoln Press search go up Go up go go keep going down. Okay, so check this out. You know what that is. Let me tell you what that is Forget about there at 2.7 million

They're not gaining followers today. So meanings, no one gives a shit about them today. That means it's over. Cheney and Penn's don't stand a chance at winning because if that was 5,000 a day, 8,000 a day, 9,000 a day, 3,000 a day. That's the last two weeks. Look at the last two weeks. Look at it and benefit. Go to 30 days. go up a little bit and go to 30 days. You can actually increase that to a detailed statistics, go to the top and click on details statistics. So go lower, it'll give you 30 days. That's 30 days.

Look at that. A 2.7 million Twitter accounts going up like that. Yeah, but Patrick, let me push back up. By the way, while he's doing this pull up a oc while he's doing this pull up a oc go that if we are going to agree that the politics in America is very much donor driven and money as we've learned with Joe Biden who was probably the least

competent candidate even among the Republican that pardon me the democratic field which was very weak to begin with, right? But somehow the party, the donors, the money pushed him to the top above everybody else. Then could we not assume that it doesn't really matter at this point how many people you got? Check us out. Once the money kicks in, this could all change.

All right, let me tell you, let me just show you this here. Look at you. But that's my argument. I'm gonna respond back to that. Look at this here. Go up and show them who this is. We're looking at AOC. The girl named AOC, I don't know if you've heard me just show you this here. Look at you. That's my argument. I'm gonna respond back to that. Look at this here. Go up and show them who this is. We're looking at.

AOC. A grown-up AOC, I don't know if you've heard her. She's pretty famous. AOC, 13.19 million followers. Let's see how she's doing the last 30 days. Look at that. Keep going up. 36,000 followers in a day.

22,000 followers in a day. Lincoln Project, her worst day isn't their best 30 days combined Combined okay, that's a threat. This is a real threat of people wanting to now go type in the centers Let's see how the Sanctus is doing told you to be right so so I don't think chanye and Pents can beat the Sanctus. I don't think cheney and Pence can be Trump. I think they're Remember one there was a guy named Scott Walker. Well, Scott Walker's gonna be Wisconsin. He's governor. Boom a month later. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, so you have to have charisma nowadays

You have to have charisma. And who do you think would be more attractive? Uh, AOC or Gavin Newsom is growing AOC or Newsom? Well, you're saying now she Gavin Newsome. She's growing. AOC or Newsome? A track. Well, you're saying now, she's not, she can, I'm saying a track. Physically, Newsome. Yeah. But good looking couple.

Can I say one thing about the Lincoln project? Because this speaks to the exact same reason that CNN ratings are tanking and I'm missing B's taking. And exactly what Vinnie essentially talked about is all road lead to Trump. That's it. Okay. The reason that Lincoln project is fleeting and there's no, because Trump's out of office,

their whole point of Lincoln project was that there are never Trump movement. Right. They got him on office. Yeah. Alright guys, let's, the band's done. Yeah. Right. The whole point of CNBC, sorry, MSNBC and CNN was, talk about Trump, talk about Trump,

let's get him out of office, he's the worst, now he's at office, look at your rankings, look at your ratings. So I'm not shocked by anything like this. This is, they all road lead back to Trump. And that's essentially my point is with Pence and Blizz Cheney. And they, they, they, they, they, they, okay, there are afterthoughts.

Let's go to another story. So teachers in Florida, okay, paid seven. Largest teachers union, Florida's 9,000 teachers short for the upcoming year. This is a, let me see the story here. Largest teacher 9,000 short and state of Florida. Industry experts say the problem is pretty simple. Nobody wants to be a teacher anymore.

For multiple reasons, it's seen less and less like a viable, fulfilling career option. The regional director of Teach for America said the solution is simple. Take steps to make teaching and attractive career once again. A Florida Education Association report has shown more than 9,500 teaching and support staff positions across the state of Florida are vacant. It says the shortage is so wide ranging that more than 450,000 Florida students may have started last school year without full-time certified teachers in their classroom.

A survey of high school students found that only 5% were interested in becoming teachers and that survey was from four years ago. What are things going on here, these teachers. I am, I think it speaks to where we are, and I hate to go back to the same thing, but, that's a great gig. That's a great gig. That's a nice job. That's an honorable profession. No money.

It's fun. It's, you're changing lives. And if we're at a place in this country where we can't get people to want to take a decent job. Yeah, you're not going to make a lot of money. I mean, I guess it all depends. If you're Latino, you're making a lot of money. Yeah.

I remember once I was listening to God, who's the big talk guy I used to be on Fox News. He and I used to go at it all the time. Oh, Riley, right? Bill O'Reilly and I remember, he I remember, he was interviewed once and he said, I grew up, I grew up poor in America. My dad was a postman. He was the letter carrier, you know, a mailman as we used to call him.

And I thought to myself, that's poor! As a Latino, my dad cleaned toilets at the Barcelona Hotel on Miami Beach. And in the daytime, he was also working as a bus boy. And then he had a job driving a truck at night. Bill, that's what my dad did. Stop telling people that because your dad is a mailman, you grew up poor, because you certainly didn't grow up poor. This mindset, not to pick on you, Vinny, because I love you like a brother.

But oh, this mindset, that, oh my God, she's a teacher. She doesn't make a lot of money. That's damn good money. They make 30, 40, 50,000 dollars. I don't care if that's pretty good money. You can make a living and you could raise a family out of that stuff. Pat, it was a couple of times.

I don't people want these jobs, what I'm saying. But I'm saying Pat, they're underappreciated. They don't like to do the teacher. I think is one of the most important things to give people, a teacher's made us. And we've talked about it, they don't get the acknowledgement, they don't get the credit, and I'm sorry,

$30,000, $50,000 in this day and age is nothing, and I think it's, like you said, they're reinventing and they're moving it and they're moving it, they're going to go on some more. I know a lot of Latino friends of mine who would die for $35,000 job, and by the way, you want to be a pro-

I'm telling them, like, working Florida. If you want to be appreciated, get a dog, working Florida. If you want to be appreciated, get a dog. Okay. Just, you know, you, you, you got an opportunity to do something. You got an opportunity to make a difference. You get to go to work,

sit in a place that's air conditioned every day, affect people's lives, and you're going to say, now that's beneath me. Come on. Well, there's something wrong with our country. If that's beneath me. Rick says a lot of Latinos in Florida,

why don't you encourage them to become teachers? Yeah, come on, we need nine hundred. Not a fighter, not a fighter. Why do you think them to become teachers? They need to teach a job. Not a hider, not a hider. Why do you think this is happening? Anything outside of what we've said, why do you think this is happening? It's interesting.

I mean, you look at the people that are becoming teachers now and they're more and more activists. They're more and more focused on themselves. They wanna project their beliefs on to kids. They want to, you know, it's like you see, the lips of TikTok is a funny one. But really look at the average teacher who's teaching kids now coming out of college.

They're activists. They're not interested in helping the youth grow and really educate and help them learn. They're interested in indoctrinating them. And I think there's been an interesting loss of that idea of actually educating, not just indoctrinating them. And I think there's been an interesting loss of that idea of actually educating, not just indoctrinating, not just pushing beliefs, but actually teaching somebody something.

History, the great classic works, I mean, how to be a better person. I mean, like really true education. And I think there's such an interest in myself pushing what I believe believe pushing my personal desires on the people that you know, you know what I'm, you know what I kind of butchered it, but if it makes sense.

I mean, there's a few ways I think about this one, if this is the, if you think about 9,000 teachers to me, how many students per teacher is it fair to say 30? I'd say 30. Okay, so that's 270,000 kids, right? If you think about it, that's 270,000 kids. If it's 9,000 teachers short, so are you doing the numbers to see what it is?

One in 15, is that what it is? And you want to floor them? Okay, so 9,015, 130,000, let's just say 150 to 300,000 students are being affected by this. Okay, so how do you handle this? Do you handle it by giving a bump? Do you handle it by lowering the requirement

to be a teacher? Do we get the data to see these 9,000 student, 9,000 teachers that is shortage? Is it in elementary? Is it in junior high? Is it in high school? What's the breakdown? What's the definition of a teacher could be kindergarten?

How are they processing this? And then if you're what's the definition of a teacher could be kindergarten, how are they processing this? And then if you're thinking about the future of education, does this mean the education route has to be changed? Is it more online, is it more homeschooling? What direction is this going to be going? Because a lot of these types of stats that you see as a byproduct of certain, you know, law, certain new guidelines, rules, a direction, certain industry is going where people say, I just want to, I don't want to do this job.

I'd be so interested to know more of the data of what category these 9,000 teachers are in. Hmm. I'd be curious to know. But to me, 9,000, I don't know how far the story's going to go. How much more we're going to hear about it. And I give you some data. So we wanna go data with it.

So what percentage of teachers do you think are women? Most. You have a 75% of women. Majority, okay, so the average age of a teacher is 42 years old. So if I'm a woman, and I'm in my early 30s, mid 30s, 42s the average, and I'm looking, and I'm seeing what's going on all around me

on you said the lips of TikTok, right? All right, so if I'm a attractive kindergarten teacher and I'm making 42 grand a year and I'm overworked, I'm underpaid, yeah, I get the summers off, that's cool. And I'm looking around and I'm going down the conspiracy rabbit hole here, but I'm a young attractive woman.

And I see what's going on. It girls on only fans and COVID and lockdown and masks and kids and snot and flu and COVID. And Becky down the street is doing only fans. 250 dollars a month. Yeah, exactly. Just printing money you're showing off her. And she's like, you know what? Fuck this. I'm out. I'm gonna go do something else. I'm gonna go. I'm not saying that

The Holy Spirit is that school did you go to where every female teacher was there? So I'm just saying what 70% of the hooters junior high school Obviously you didn't meet Mrs. McElpey You didn't meet Mrs. McElvain. You know what, well I grew up in my head. Mrs. Angulo, but it wasn't everybody. But the big difference, I don't know how to do that. There are a lot of issues. Most teachers are females and they're just like,

but if you're, if we've got, but if we've come over this nonsense. If we've gotten to a point in this country where you're gonna turn down as I'm reading here, an average salary, starting salary in the state of Florida between $44,000 and $51,000 because some idea and the summer's office, you said, because you have some, oh, I don't like the way they're saying this

or I don't like the way they're doing that. I don't know, man. I just don't like the way they're saying that. Well, whatever, whatever it is that they don't like, they don't like the fact that whatever the political argument of the moment is, I mean, my gosh, it still seems to me like you're passing up on a hell of an opportunity. Yeah.

You know, so what does that say about our society that people don't need that job? Once again, the Rick Sanchez Agua Media message, we need more Mexicans. Well, what does it say about our society is that people don't want to work hard anymore. There's other gift-crick that rather pumped their money into Bitcoin or don't point.

And at the table. Or sit around and do a, of only fans video. Why would you want to go to work, work your ass off dealing with not those kids to make 40 grand a year when you could just turn on a video cam at home and do only fans. I know that that's an extreme example.

Right. But that's the reality. A lot of people want to get rich quick and not have to work hard. And that's unfortunately the reality of it. Either way, it's a sad commentary on the times we live in America right now when you look at some numbers like that. So next story, I'm going to go page five this has to do with oil and gas, which if this

story is true, this is a very annoying story. So here we go. So Biden allowed five million barrels from national reserve to go abroad. This is a daily mail story. He shipped 5 million barrels from the United States to a strategic or reserve broad after claiming that releasing them would help ease Americans' pain at the pumps. The President faces accusations of a sneaky slight of hand as it was revealed that between a fifth and a sixth of the reserve oil he bragged

about releasing to boost supply made its way offshore to Europe and Asia and June. Biden authorized the release of a million barrels a day from April onwards, but his action has done little to combat soaring gas prices with the national average sitting at 474 as of Tuesday, still far above the 228 a gallon average From just before he took office from 228 to 4.74 5 million barrels abroad to Europe and Asia and then and then one like how explain to me We were mess we're f'd up with gas. We're in a shortage Explain to me how you think sending all that

Overseas is going to help how you think sending all that overseas is going to help us. Huh, what the, what does that even mean? Like we're sending, we don't have it. You guys are paying for it. We're sending it. How is that gonna make the price go down? Like it would seem to me that every decision

that has been made by the Biden administration associated with this Ukraine invasion as we describe it, has been nothing short of disastrous for the American people. While it has been good for Raytheon to a certain extent, obviously, because they want more weapons, and the Democrats could not push for more wars and more weapons, because they take money from the Raytheons and the Lockheed Martins of the world, and I can share with you the numbers, and they're kind of discussing how much their profits have gone up since the Ukrainian situation started. But also, from an energy standpoint, the American people are getting hosed because of Biden's

policies having to do with Ukraine and everything. And by the way, that's not to say that I'm a Korean with frickin' Putin and what he's done in Ukraine. Obviously not. But the way we've handled it, those who are being hurt by it are the American people, and certainly not, you know, some of Biden's donors, for example. So the whole thing just really smells. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. So I don't think we can get away from that. And I think it's

going to be some Biden's going to be dealing with for quite some time. His foreign policy by the way sucks. So, so, so here's a question for you Adam. Here's a question for anyone of you guys here, but specifically Adam, curious what you have to say. How many of the people that voted for Trump and were true believers of Trump flipped on him? What percentage? Since the January 6th hearings during his first three years minus COVID,

what percentage of the people that voted for Trump flipped on him in the first three or saying, this is a terrible vote I should have never voted for. Oh, very few. Okay, so how many people who voted for Trump flipped on him in the first three years saying this is a terrible vote I should have never voted for. Oh very few. Okay, so how many people who voted for Obama three months three years later said, you know what, terrible vote I should never vote for Obama. Very few. I agree. How many people flipped on Bush three years later saying horrible what I should have never voted for but a Bush. A lot because of the Iraq war. Okay, how many people said that with Clinton three years later? Not a lot. Pre-monic or none?

Pre-monic. Everything I'm saying, pre-monic, pre-monic, pre-monic, pre-monic. How many people within the first three years who voted for Biden are saying, what the hell did I just do? A very good question. What do you think that percentage is? Because it's not like its Republicans are being so live, stop throwing the gun that about,

give the guy a second chance. No, no, his own people who voted for him are throwing him under the bus at this point. And that percentage is a big percentage of people who voted for this guy. I think I'd bad, I think they're realizing now, it was like, you know, when you buy something, just like you just wanna purchase it,

it's impulse vote. It was an impulse vote because, you know, COVID and the media and that world was, it was Trump and Trump. Oh, he said it came from China, racist, all that, that whirlwind, they were like, all right, listen, anything we'll do. They could have literally had a week in the Bernie's dead body, which Biden kind of is.

They would have voted for anybody and now, now that they're seeing it, now that the wallets are hurting, they're like, oh shit, we were, I mean, kind of got duped into it, but they're stuck with it. Well, though, it's to certain extent, Presidencies are circumstantial. You are a byproduct of the circumstances that you inherit to be fair with Trump or to be fair with Obama

or to be fair with anybody, even this Mr. Sleepy. There are some things you could cogently say that he has had laid upon him, which were very difficult to manage. That said, that's your fucking job. I agree. Okay, if the art didn't say, oh, these freaking Nazis, this is not fair.

No, Nazis are there, you gotta take them on. Yep. You know, when Obama had to deal with the meltdown, you know, give him credit, he dealt with it. I don't necessarily like the way he dealt with it, but he dealt with it and he helped it. So you gotta deal with what you're dealt, man, those are the cards here.

You got an H, no, you got no Aces, oh, sorry. And, you know, people will say that that's a circumcensual situation for Biden, but on top of the fact that he's had tough circumstances, I will give him that. This inflation situation was not made by him. He's not dealing with it properly nor is he capable of dealing with it properly because he's not a strong leader. That's my point.

Great. I think I think it's going to be very interesting how much worse it can get under him. Like he's not even wanted to come out. Like this one lady, democratic strategist, just said the follow, I just wanna read this one quote to you and go to the last story, which is a highland part. It's infuriating, said one top democratic strategist, venting frustrations about Biden and his team. Our house is on fire and it seems like they're doing

nothing to put out the fire. They're just watching it with the rest of us. So, meaning here's the policies you said you were gonna go through, you have the house, you have every, it's all policies you said you were going to go through, you have the house, you have every, it's all you and you can't get shit done. We thought you are going to get everything done. Now what do we do? It's catastrophic. Midterms, I just can't wait for midterms to see what happens there. Last story, Holland Park. Okay, Dali, tragic event on what happened in Holland Park. Fortajolive shootings suspect charged with seven counts of first degree murder.

On Tuesday, the Lake County State Attorney Eric Reinhardt announced that a suspect Robert Kremel III has been charged with seven counts of first degree murder and connection to the mass shooting at Highland Park. 4th of July parade, we anticipate dozens of more charges centering around each of the victim's psychological victims physical victims attempted murder charges aggravated this charge This charge charges aggravated battery charges. There will be dozens more charges against Mr. Kremel But these seven counts of first degree murder will lead to a mandatory life sentence should be be convicted without the possibility of parole And then you have a couple other stories. I'll read one of them here to you.

Highland Park tells the police flagged Highland Park shoot a clear and present danger in 2019. He later cleared four background checks, Robert Bobby Cremold III, 21 years old, the suspect in a mass shooting that killed seven people and wounded dozens of others on 4th of July parade, was still able to clear state required background checks to purchase firearms on at least four separate occasions between 2020 and

2021 the Illinois State Police reported in September 2019 ISP received a clear and present danger report on the subject from the Highland Park Police Department The report was related to threats the subject made against this family and The report was related to threats, the subject made against this family, and not willing to move forward on a complaint. Next thing, obviously, this is documented and even take place. You have any thoughts on the Saddam?

I mean, at this point, we're just gonna go run around in circles and talk about what needs to get done here. And background checks, health, mental health, the gun. It's it, we're just talking in circles here. You talked about you shot a video and you're like, oh, we need a, after you've all day, how to video what we do about gun control. And you talked about, well, I think we need

to redo the video because of this shooting. And then I, not even sarcastically, I said, well, don't wait too long to do that because there's gonna be another shooting. And that's the look, we're going to talk in circles here. The kid somehow, his father co-signed to get the gun and he passed these background checks somehow. This kid, you showed a video today that he reenacted what he would do and he's no one shooting.

So I think, you know, extreme times, drastic times, call for drastic measures. I'm gonna give an angle that nobody, I don't hear talking about, the family of this person or the family of any shooter, what happens to them? Nothing. What happens, I understand that the father didn't pull the trigger or the grandma or the uncle,

Paul, but these people have a complete lack of regard for human life. But I assume at some, in some level in their life, this person cares about his grandma or cares about his dad or his family or a sister. And I'm not saying that those people need to go to jail over this, but that family, something needs to happen to have accountability. Whereas as you're about to, this fucking kid dresses up as a woman, covers up his tattoos, and he's going on a roof and he's about to shoot a bunch of people.

And he's knows that he's gonna say, all right, once I do this, I'm going to jail the rest of my life or I'm gonna die, and that's it. He's only thinking about himself, but in the back of your mind, if you're an active shooter and you're thinking, well, hold on, this is really my entire family is going to face the ramifications of this or my grandma is going to go to jail. I'm going way completely. I like, I like maybe that will be like, well, trigger. No pun intended. Something in him is, you know what? I love my family too. I hate myself, I hate people.

The girl that didn't wanna kiss me in school, the video game, I bought it like, something extreme needs to be done here because if it's still red flag laws, background checks, mental health, accessibility to guns, it's the same fucking talking points. We need to do something different. And you know what, trip me out about this story,

when I heard this and how it's crazy, how this happened in Chicago, right? How this gets only this type of mass shooting. Got, people are still talking about it all big. Do you know how many mass shootings are, and you talked about this Adam, a couple podcasts ago. It's like three or more people, right? Chicago from September of May, 2018 till today,

811 people killed or injured in mass shootings. this one's the only one that gets this past weekend I think there was like 80 or some people shot and like I think another nine or 10 on top of this It's just crazy how that gets story It's those people that were at the parade that matter but all the people that are getting killed all the minorities inside But Chicago that mayor whoever's the mayor of Chicago I get it horrible job. What do you do like we keep talking about changing everything you guys got to do how do you how do you still have a job as a mayor of Chicago. I know it's a whatever comes in it's horrible none of them are really doing anything.

He's a crazy thing about this this this guy his father ran against the current Highland Parks mayor as a mayor mayoral race. I don't know if you got what I just said. The democratic killers, the guy that did that, his dad ran against the current mayor of the city where he didn't shoot. Wow. That's a little creepy right there.

That's a little crazy. Yeah, when you hear the story. I think the takeaway is when your son shows up at home and he has a tattoo on his forehead and on his cheek, you've got a problem and don't let him get a gun. Over there with those tight, uh, army shoes. That guy, yeah, and you know, people with my dad would have kicked my ass. If I would have shown up, I mean, my dad used to not let me come into the house without

having to look at him in the ass. The shit about you get into your house late at night when your parents are asleep. Of course, you know what my dad would do? He went to sleep in my bed to make sure I in the eye. Yes. The shit about you get into your house late at night when your parents are asleep or, you know what my dad would do? He went to sleep in my bed to make sure I had to wake him up. But, and then I had to face him to make sure I wasn't stoned or drunk or I had something else going on. There's a lot of, it's called accountability.

I agree. And there's a lot of Gen Z younger kids where like it's cool to get tattoos on your face. And so I'm not saying just because you get a tattoo on your face, you're gonna become a killer. But this, like, this guy was a clear and present danger. That's the police that marked him as that in 2019. And then his father sponsored his,

so here's my point. The father didn't do anything wrong with her. The uncle lived in the same house. Okay, and when we was interviewed, he said, I didn't know. He knew it needs to happen where the father, the uncle, the grandma, they all need to go to fucking jail. Okay, but okay, it sounds bombastic and sarcastic.

No, this, one guy took down seven lives. So what, we're gonna just punish the kid and he goes to jail? I like what Adam, something drastic needs to get done. So this is how I'm going off your dressing, which I kinda like, I thought of it like as, you know, we let terrorists know, because everybody loves their family. If you are a shooter and you kill, let's say, seven people,

we're just giving you a heads up. So everybody be on alert. We're gonna kill seven people and your family, we're gonna off them. They're gonna be fuck out the big. Now you just show to everybody you're from Iran, we're gonna be confused. Yeah, but that's extremely disturbing.

The type of extreme measures that they do, because here's my thing, nothing. There's no solution No, nobody's even trying how about this a heads up school shooters if you shoot somebody period in the school We're gonna go after your fucking family and make them suffer Okay, try that Because that's wouldn't be legal and I get that that's not the American shooting is I get that's not the American way I get that you have a bad kid. I get that that's not the American way, but you know, it's not the American shooting is I get that that's not the American way. I get that you have a bad kid I get that that's not the American way, but you know, it's not the American Rick. I hear you That's one to complete the

That's not what I'm gonna be wrong goddamn that's not what our Justin system is Okay, but you know what also is not the American way showing up to salute your country on July 4th And then I get shot to fuck that yeah because you wanted to celebrate your country on July 4th and get shot to fuck that because you wanted to celebrate your country. So like this person right here needs to be held as a domestic terrorist on July 4th. He's killing people. You know what that would be for right? If you're the parents of a kid that crazy kind and has tattoos and is it clear and present danger, guess what? That parents gonna be way more involved. How are you? I agree with Adam. By the the way, take are you one military boost school? Fuck stay in the house. I'm not even in your crazy back. I get that that's not what our justice system is built on

Yeah, but what says what are we gonna do here says the two the only two guys around with no Thanks, okay hang on a minute. Let's not forget You all these shooters shot his grandmother in the face of all Yeah, like before he went out and killed a bunch of people. So I'm not sure how much your theory would impact it. Well, maybe we'll slow it down a little bit. But again, she's sure to see it coming. To be fair, and I listen, my daughter's only 19 months.

I'm kidding, by the way. It would be more interesting to hear Pat's take on this, but I would feel as a parent, the hardest thing I could do is lose faith in my daughter. Like the hardest thing I could do is lose faith in my child and say, listen, this is a bad kid, this is a bad egg, I need to do something about it. And not to mention, what kind of a fucking slippery slope are you going down when you're now prosecuting family members?

I mean, how far and how broad can that be? Okay. I mean, I think it's a fact. What solutions do you have though? Like, where's the accountability? Where's the accountability in the house? Morely, morally, your solution is spot on. We're not disagreeing with your moral. The law isn't helping. What you're essentially saying is parents should start being accountable and responsible. Yes, 100% by making sure that they're involved and engaged in their children's lives.

And that's a great point that you're making. But when you take it to the point that we need to start prosecuting them for the actions of their children, and that gets a little iffy, unless, of course, they bought them a gun or stuck a gun I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna prove they went along with the I'm just saying accountability I'm not saying it needs to be jail time. They need to be fine That they need to like loot something needs to happen to these families

They didn't one of those parents go to jail those two the two parents of I don't know which school shooting back Yeah, who will then got arrested and then what the joke is it gave him this gun, but at what point does this stop being a government issue where we just force laws and it actually become a cultural change? I mean, when are we gonna realize that this is an issue with the culture in the country right now?

Well, how do you change the culture? Start disciplining your kids. You can't even look at kids wrong. Stop playing video games so much. Stop watching movies. I don't know, I don't know. I think, stop watching movies. I think parents, I think parents, listen, I think it was two generations off the mic. I'm not saying stop watching movies. I don't know, I don't know. I think parents, I think parents,

listen, I think it was two generations after my, I'm not saying hit your kids. Disciplining your kids became taboo. Can I ask you guys a question? Why did Jordan Peterson, all of a sudden become mainstream? Why did Jordan Peterson, all of a sudden blow up the way he did? What did he start talking about? He started pushing a message to people who are longing for it.

Say that again. He's pushing a message to people, they're longing for it, they're hurting for it, they want to hear it. So, he gave a message about what it is to be a man, okay? So, he's helping boys become men. He's talking about personal responsibility. And go. The 12 rules of life, clean your bed, you know, make your do this, all these basic to think

about. Nothing he said is like E equals MC square. Oh my God. Everything he said is just basic stuff that, you know, there were many people, a generation ago, were being taught that it skipped the generation, that they're not teaching. I'm going to keep saying this over and over again. This goes back to values and principles. This goes back to values and principles. Choose a religion, that is got the right values and principles and start telling schools to pray. I don't care what it is.

Whether it's prayer, values and principles, 10 commandments, I don't care which one of these it is. Make it a requirement to start teaching basic values and principles, 10 commandments, I don't care which one of these it is. Make it a requirement to start teaching basic values and principles. Now, of course, Adams got a very good point because of responsibilities on the parent. So where this goes even more to, you know, single family, household, or, you know, there's a single parent household, kids are being raised by that. But this has to be the main, if there's any books that you can write right now

that I believe will do very well that people wanna read, if there's any channels you can create, any content you can create, anything you can write about, anything you can build your MO of your YouTube channel, your blog, your website, your whatever you're doing, this will do very, very well right now,

the next five, 10, 15, 20 years. And I don't think this is going to go away anytime soon because most of the churches that are you go to nowadays there are a lot of them are out of touch. This being a ran by 72 year old pastor and he's given messages that just he has hard time connecting with the audience. I went to a couple of them. I won the biggest churches in Dallas. I went to I sat there on Easter and I said dude you just don't connect with me. I have a hard time connecting with you.

Words, Dudley, Rutherford, who connect with everybody in LA, right? I think there's a big opportunity in churches and I think there's a big opportunity for people who are teaching the right morals, the right values and the right principles until we start doing that. And by the way, my messaging of what I'm saying,

yes, how long the ship's gonna take with my strategy? How long do you think that's been? A long time. 20 decades. 20 decades. Yeah. By the back. By the way, not to bring it back to what I'm doing, but I'm going to bring it back to what I'm doing.

You will find within the Latino community in the United States, and Latinos in general, the adherence to parental obedience is bigger and better than it is in most other courts. For some reason, when I fear my dad's gonna kick my ass for something I even thought before I did it, I tended not to do it. And we are raised that way. It's a moralistic kind of teaching,

but somehow maybe it comes from Catholicism. I don't know, maybe it comes from our own sense of Christianity. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I'm not saying everybody has to be like, think like me because I happen to be a Christian. But something in the Latino DNA makes people less apt to want to be lazy and more apt to be want to work and have accept personal responsibility.

And when I'm doing Rick Sanchez news, my podcast, that's something I constantly try to make sure that I talk about because it's about fitting the people to the argument no matter what the story is on that day, which makes me think as we're discussing this, you're probably gonna be less apt to see that kind of behavior in our community. Well, I think, that's a good thing.

By the way, having Cuban friends, I think it comes down to the chunkleta. Yeah, they'll take you a sandal and I hit you over That I don't know what your parents used to hit me when my dad was a belt But in the Cuban household of Miami they'll take a mother used to see the front porch in our house in Ilya and say no The way up a car no the way up a car in other words, I'm not gonna hit you. I'm not gonna Come in I know I've been bad and then she'd wait there by the porch and a student tried to stick the house Yeah, she would hit me and I was like, oh my god. I knew this was gonna happen and she gets me every new My mom looks a lot past she'd have a wooden spoon like an old school wooden spoon and we'd do something insane

And she would hit us and the and it broke which took her to a whole another lover because it was my Stabbed you that bro. Yeah, but I think like especially with the Latino community and I don't think it's a and it broke, which took her to a whole nother lover because it was my body. She stabbed you. That broke. Yeah, what I think, but I think, especially with the Latino community, and I don't think it's a minority thing, but I mean, Middle Eastern's, and the disciplining of your kids, and we were scared, the five,

like six words, if your mother said, put you in your place, six words, wait until your father gets home. That, I'd be like, no, I'd be like, I'll clean, I'll kiss your feet. Because if he knew, it was over. I think that's gone away in this culture now, is you can't even tell them anything

because they'll get snitch. I'm like, you can't, you told me that, you told me that, you told me. How much of this has to do with technology and the fact that we don't spend enough time. I speak, talking and sharing these ideas. They just throw an iPad at them, take this. The people, other room. You know millions of people are probably going to be listening to this conversation because they don't have somebody to have a conversation with. So

they have to rely on Patrick and his friends to have a conversation. And to a certain extent that's great because at least we're having a decogeant decent conversation. But I would almost encourage those people once in a while to go have a conversation with your son or your uncle or your daughter or whoever because I don't think that's happening. And that's what I see out of that story out of Highland Park, Illinois, that that's not happening. When you live with a boy, because this kid was a boy, and he lives in your house, and you've been there 10 years living in that house with him, and a reporter comes and asks him,

tell me about him and you say, I don't know anything about him. You got a problem. And if that's indicative of America, we got a problem. You know, I totally agree. You know, final thoughts here. How much of a role does the president play on how fathers lead their kids? How much credence you put on that?

Or is it more TV that's like, you know, how there was a TV that would ultimately that whatever his name was, you know, Uncle Phil Phil. Bill Cosby was a, you know, he was a TV dad. A lot of guys that played a TV that will smith's dad, whatever his name was, you know, Uncle Phil Phil, Bill Cosby was a, you know, he was a TV dad. A lot of guys have played a TV dad. How much of a role you think the president, the leader of a nation plays on how to help raise your kids?

Quite a lot. What do you think? What do you think? I'm actually curious. I don't know the survey, but what do you think? You're saying quite a lot. What do you think? I mean, if he accepts it.

What's gravetating to'm gravitating to is when, on the debate stage, when they asked Hillary and Trump to say one nice thing about the opponent, and Hillary said, you know, one thing I'll say a good nice thing about Donald Trump is at least you've raised some good kids. I mean, that was great. So, if what you guys are saying is true,

which a tough father produces great kids. Then how would you rate Biden's style of raising kids? Because so, I don't know. Not well. Because the product on how the product is doing with its hunter or all that other stuff. And then you look at a Trump or you look at Obama's kids or you look at like, I don't see Michelle

being a passive, passive, I mean either. I see Michelle being tough. I don't see Obama being tough, but I see Michelle being tough. I see Trump having expectations. I see Eva-Benz. Oh, I agree. No, no, I agree. So to me, I don't know.

And by the way, let me tell you, I don't think this is an 18-month-thing since Biden's taken House. I think this has been a conversation we've got in the way from for a couple decades. You don't get to point like this overnight. You get to point like this. It's a gradual process of getting there. But to work it out of this place,

it's not gonna be a two year deal or four year deal as I think it's gonna be a couple of decades. Great expression earlier today on another matter. This man is an accidental president. So to use him as an example of what's happening from the president's standpoint. But by the way, not all kids are critical. For instance, he did lose a son, Bo Biden, who was a full-on military hero, purple heart,

lost his life in battle. Correct. And so that's like someone like him is a lot different from Hunter, who's a full-on crackhead, who's a lot different from Ashley Biden who literally I partied with it to lane like back in the late 90s. That's a fair point. Who is a party girl? Not you.

So not all kids are the same. Just like, you know, you have four kids that are not all exactly the same. Can you tell me about that party after the show? Yeah, I definitely want to know about that. I should buy a party girl. No wonder he defends the Biden family as much as he does. That would make sense. Ashley's got him by just got you.

You better or else I will tell that story. Okay, all right, sounds good. Well, gang, this was a blast. Rick, appreciate you for coming out. You had a blast with you. I had a chance. This was great. I feel like I was with my brother.

Hey, go follow the man's podcast, Rick Sanchez, news on Apple Apple podcast Tyler put the link below so people can find it easily We just got a word that Boris Johnson resigned he gave the speech Which is kind of interesting the guy resigned. We haven't had a chance to get into it. Maybe we will next week And early this morning. Yeah, bro early this morning, but anyways, gank have a great weekend and my town next week We're a Mac town next week. We are back next Tuesday with John Paul Mac Isaac, the owner of the laptop store in Delaware that found the Hunter laptop. Yes.

Oh my God. So that's Adam's gonna be in Tulando. He's not gonna be here. So he's skipping that one. Anyways, have a great weekend. We'll see you guys on Tuesday. Take care. Bye bye, bye, bye.

Bye, everybody.