PBD Podcast - The Truth Behind Fake News w/ Batya Ungar-Sargon | PBD Podcast | Ep. 172

Episode Date: July 19, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Batya Ungar-Sargon, Adam Sosnick and Vincent Oshana. Batya Ungar-Sargon is well recognized as the deputy opinion editor of Newsweek in the United States. She is a Palestinian-American writer who served as the deputy opinion editor for Newsweek Magazine. TOPICS 0:00 - Intro  9:52 - Why you should stop watching Netflix and learn a skill  17:09 - How Patrick Bet-David got his job at Morgan Stanley  26:59 - Why people forget what it takes to be successful  35:12 - The easy way to understand Quantitative Easing and how it caused the 2008 market crash  43:30 - The importance of accepting failure  57:15 - The fundamentals of Marxism  1:04:04 - Which political party lost during covid?  1:16:48 - Why democrats want Trump to run in the next election  1:30:53 - Who will run in 2024?  1:41:27 - Are American voters 'lazy'?  1:45:33 - Reaction to Vladimir Putin calling himself the 'Ruler of Russia' Get Batya's book Bad News: How Woke Media Is Undermining Democracy: https://amzn.to/3yT0ApR Register for The Next Housing Crash webinar - Tuesday, July 19th @ 5:30PM: https://bit.ly/3RCsBuu Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.   To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail] --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

Are we live? We're live episode 172 with our friend here, Adam Saasnick. We have Vinio Shana in the house. Tyler's sitting on the sidelines, but he's always very helpful. And a special guest today who's a very, very unique, special guest. You'll see why we go through it. You're going to be confused a lot, but you're going to get a lot of clarity. But she's cool as hell

Batia on Garcergone to the entire Syrian community that's been texting me and the enemy I mean when I say entire Syrian community. I'm talking like 19 of them that have message me and you my mom Is she a Syrian? Yeah, she is not a Syrian. We were disappointed prior to the podcast She's not sorry, and she's also not a Palestinian Jew. According to the disinformation camp on social media. Adam, she's part of my people, y'all. So you as Syrians cannot clear the Jewish tribe, but we are when you hear Palestinian Jewish, the automatically I was like, that household

must have been divided. Right? Like, like the Gaza strips that you stand on your side will be on this side. Don't argue with my love. Carlos, Vinny needs 5% down by the way. So it's already happening. Her book, her book, Bad News, How Walk Media is Under Mining Democracy. Here's what's interesting. She's a Marxist who thinks Trump is more of a Marxist and Sanders than maybe the AOC's of the world. Who knows? So, again, like I said, it's very confusing, but we've got a lot of topics to go through.

I totally get. Yeah, we're going to have a good time. So, how you doing? Thank you so much for having me here. Yeah, it's great to have you on. I'm honored to be here with you. It's the pleasure of ours to have you and we're we're happy to have you Do you mind taking a moment? You know, you're a deputy editor. I think with

Newsweek and newsweek is Coming up just 10 years ago five years ago newsweek was just newsweek, but the last few years both sides are kind of willing to When a publication is is Pissing off both sides and attracting both sides. I think they're doing a good job, and I think that's what Newsweek's been doing the last couple years. So, if you don't mind taking a couple minutes here and just kind of introducing yourself to the audience, your background,

little bit about the book, and we'll get right into it. Yeah, I'm Bati Angersargon. I'm a deputy opinion editor at Newsweek. Exactly like you said, we run opinion from across the political spectrum, which means we make everybody angry, but everybody deserves a fair hearing, and that's what we're here to do to fight cancel culture. And it's just, it's such a unique thing to do. I mean, you used to be that like, that was the

mission statement of the New York Times, and that is clearly no longer the mission statement of the New York Times. And so, you know, that's what we're doing doing and it's really an honor to be part of a great team there. Let me tell you something interesting though. So, Newsweek now is considered center right, not because we have more right-wing opinion. We don't. We actually have three kind of left-wing liberal opinion editors and two on the right, but because the very idea of hosting opinion from

across the political spectrum is now coded as a right wing conservative proposition. How crazy is that? According to who though, that's the question. Right. So people, they're sort of like websites that tell you like where. Yeah, I've seen this on the spectrum. Yeah, exactly. And that's so nuts because the left used to be the side of like, let's hear from everybody

open, mind it, open, debate, and now the left is the side of like, no, if you don't agree with me, you don't get a hearing, because, you know, silence is violence, words are violence, right? And it's now considered a conservative thing if you want to hear from both sides. But wouldn't it be more centric, right? Yeah, I think we're centric. Yeah, I think we're dead center, you know, but people will say now,

oh, Newsweek has gone to the right. And what they mean by that is not that we have more conservative op-eds, what they mean is we're willing to hear from both sides. And that's to me. How dare you? How dare you have both perspectives? I think a lot of reporting,

you've got the same thing, CNN, everybody. You can't say you're not biased. Everybody, I don't care how you're reporting it, but you think because Newsweek is more of the point that we're just gonna state, this is the facts, this is the news, and they're not being like weapons. You know what I mean? They're not being like political operatives,

you know what I mean? They're just, the news is the news, and here it is. Yeah, and I think it's more even like in the opinion section, we're saying, look, we want you to make up your mind. So we're gonna have the left wing view on this and the right wing view on this and everything in between because you're smart enough to make up your own mind.

I'm going to tell you what to think. I'm going to say, this is what these people think. This is what these people think. And you, the American people, are smart enough to know which of those makes more sense. I like you believe that, though? Yeah. That the American people are smart enough to make up their own minds?

Yes. You don't. Some? A hootspa. A hootspa in the house. Some, you know, some like to just kind of live in their echo chamber. Even if you tell them.

Yeah, you guys are not populist. That's the thing, because you guys made a bunch of money, and so you know you're smarter than everybody. I don't know about that. I'm just a journalist, so I'm like, I'm not smarter than anybody else, you know? Well, most journalists would not agree with you right now. Most journalists, according to you,

exactly a little bit more on the woki elite side of things these days. But listen, that's actually very good debate to say, you know, can people think for themselves and decipher whether a thing is good or not, you know, a process and issue for themselves. Because, you know, I think mainstream media, many politicians are banking on majority people being dumb

and they talk to people as if they're dumb. And they're not. Like the other day, one of the reporters went up to President Biden and said, Hey, how do you feel about the fact that your disapproval rating is at 94% with voters under the age of 30? And he just came up and he said, That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. 92% of Democrats said they would vote for me again to run for office. And there is no data anywhere saying 92% of Democrats would vote for Biden. But

that is an element of saying, Listen, voter, I think you're dumb and I think you're gonna believe me. And I think because if I keep saying it, you're gonna say, okay, cool, maybe 92% do think he's doing a good job. And you know, people are gonna vote for him. So there isn't, there isn't argument. They're about the fact that, but I do, I don't think it's the dumb. I think what I would say, Adam, is the lazy. I think voters are lazy to go do their own research.

That's the challenge. I actually don't agree with you on the lazy. I think it has to do with focus. Again, most people are just working, taking care of their family, taking care of their kids. They're trying to pay their bills. Like, they're so focused on everything else in life. And then when they time to get home,

they watch reality TV, they watch a sports game, they crack open up here. Not even lazy, it's just like, maybe lazy is a different interpretation. Yes. It's not even born in America. You had a 4.2 GPA, and you don't know the meaning of lazy.

I say this all the time, you can invest your time or you can spend your time. Can you spend your time? Can you spend your time? Can you spend your time? Can you spend your time? Can you spend your time? You can invest your time.

How is that time? As this thing got in with Adam, that we have to define lazy. Lazy. You can invest. How is that? As this thing got in with Adam that we have to define. Lazy. Pull it up, please. Unwilling to work or use energy. I think they're willing to work. I think they're willing to use energy. You need work for their jobs, Pat.

You need you, but out of work. You're right. Out of work. You're right. They want to spend their time. Perfect. Not investors. So when it comes down to wanting to learn more about politics and policies,

they're somewhat lazy. That's what we're saying. And I know this is really great here. You're disagreeing on a definition, buddy. Hey. So by the way, this is good because Adam's in a disagreeing mode. So we can get this thing really. I'm not that of mode, but I'm absolutely.

I disagree with you also. Let's go. On the lazy side, let's go. But yeah. You know, two thirds the lazy side, let me go. But yeah. You know, two thirds of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. They are so stressed out. They don't know if they should take the $50 they have left

in their bank account and use it to buy meat for dinner for their kids for maybe the last time this month or use it to fill up the gas so they can take the kids to church on Sunday. People are struggling. And the idea that they should care about politics at this moment, to me, just, I'm with them. Like, they're right. These politicians want us talking about them and defending them because

that's their career. They want poor Americans struggling working class Americans to be spending their time beefing up, representing them instead of the other way around. So I'm kind of with Adam on this. I feel like it's just, and I'm so, I really want to talk about this with you guys because the view that I have, I'm now working on my next book, which is about the working class.

And so I'm spending all my time that I'm not working for a newsweek, interviewing people, it's working with them. In their trucks with them, you know, you know, working standby side by side with them. And the struggle is real. And these people are not lazy. These people work 13, 14, 15 hours a day

and they're always treading water. And so I really, at some point, I want to get into it with you guys like about, like if you think that your success really is totally duplicable and like, you know, the things that get in the way of people being able to achieve what you have like. I do. And by the way, I will defend a lazy argument

and I'll push back. Let me explain to you why. If you know every show on Netflix and you're broke, you have a problem. You're lazy. If you know every hit song that comes out and you're broke, you have a problem, you're lazy. If you know every hit song that comes out and you're broke, you're lazy. If you know every single post on social media

of other people's lives and you don't have another hustle that you're working, you have to accept the fact that you're lazy. Let me explain, let me go a little bit deeper with this amount of personal life. My hip hop music stops in O3. I'm in that series with you. Me too, I swear to God.

Mine stops in O3. My night life stops in O3. My chasing of women the way I did stopped in O3. My desire to want to watch and consume every single sporting event that I never missed a Lakers game. from the moment I came to the States, I'm going to join the Army bootcamp obviously you can't watch TV. But then afterwards, I've never missed a Laker game from the age of being 12 years old coming to the States to the age of being 24 years old, 23 years old. Lakers was my religion. Sports stance was my religion and I was broke and my dad kept having heart attacks.

And my dad worked at a 99 cents store on Manchester and Normandy while I'm working at Bali, 60 hours a week, I'm working at Bali's, I'm the top sales guy at Bali's because I wanted my dad to be dumb, but I couldn't make enough money. I was making three grand a month. But at the time when I was off,

I wasn't working a side business. I was doing anything to entertain myself. We are fooling ourselves if we're gonna sit there and just put all the responsibility on the people who have succeeded and not put any responsibility on the folks at the bottom that we're gonna say, well, poor you, you're working so hard.

But then how do you know so much about all these shows? I don't understand, I've never watched this Montana, what is this Montana show? What is this show? What is this? What is this? these shows? I don't understand. I've never watched this Montana. What is this Montana show? What is this show? What is this? What is this? Yellowstone. I don't even know what yellowstone is.

I've never watched Breaking Bad. I've never watched The Sopranos. I've never watched an episode of Sopranos. The only series I've ever watched from 03. Till today is House of Cart season one, because people kept telling me I got to watch it. So as much as we want to sit there and say, oh my gosh, pour me, pour this, pour that, which I come from a family where half of them were communist, and half of them were imperialist,

the one on the communist side, that's all they ever talked about. Their Bible was communist manifesto, and the ones on the right, they kept saying, you know, why don't you do something every time it was more fun for me to talk to the communist than it was to talk to the conservatives because the communist would feel sorry for me and it was safe and it was warm it was fuzzy it was so much better every time I went to the communist like oh my gosh you know it's them I'm like that's right right and I would feel special but every time I want to talk to these suckers on the other side the conservatives

I was like, what are you doing about it? Why don't you make a change? Why don't you pick up a book? Why don't you get another job? Why I'm a bullshit? You don't understand. This is unfair Eventually I'm 23 years old looking at my bank account broke and I said which Philosophy do you want to buy into path? Which one do you want want to buy into path? Which one do you want to buy into? Then I chose. So now, is there things on the elite side that's happening as well?

Sure. But for us to fool ourselves, thinking people don't have any options to make a change, the, the, the, the, the, the, wait, wait, wait, you skipped over the most important part. Okay, so you chose, you did, so how did you get from ballies to here? Like, what, what, what,

walked me through that? I went into military and I got some discipline for 20, half years because I didn't have it. Thank you for your service, but anytime, so I got, I needed it. So I think many boys who are undecided, military is a good choice for them. Okay. I got out, when I got out, I worked at ballies. While I'm working at ballies, I got him Robbie Solomon and my sister. My sister recommended me to read the book,

how to win friends and influence people. Keep in mind, I hate books, till 21 years old. Anybody who knows me from high school, they know I've never finished the book cover to cover. Never, I've never finished the book. I've never finished, what is it? Of Mice of Man, I never finished what's more than now, if Nelly Petting be heading as a Lenny Lenny was letting the rats of Myse

and the book, the other one, the same book that he didn't fit. What's the one? That was then this, this 1984, no, I've Fahrenheit, four, fifty one. You're saying the books they assigned you to my school? Uh, listen, I've never finished a book cover to cover never until 21 And Robbie said read how to master the art of selling by Tom Hopkins and I did and then my sister said How do when friends and influence people? It's a good book to read. I read those two books when I read those two books I said then I said This information is in a book for 10 bucks. Holy shit

What other recommendation you got next one next one rich dad poor that you know that this information is in a book for 10 bucks, holy shit. What other recommendation you got? Next one, next one, rich dad pour that. You know, psychosybernetics, you know, power versus force. And I kept reading, reading, reading, reading, reading, reading, reading, reading, reading, I don't like this information, is insane.

Then I started realizing I'm making way too many excuses. I'm blaming the world for my problems. I'm not taking any responsibility. Some of the mindsets that my mother side gave me is right, some of it isn't right. Some of the mindsets that my dad gave me is right. Some of it isn't right. I stopped questioning things and I said, listen, if I want my life to change,

I got to make a decision about it. My parents brought me here to be free. My dad gave me work ethic. And next thing, you know, I start I'm dating a girl named Jean-Vierre who's working at Morgan Stanley Dean with her. And I said, so why is it that, you know, you have all these nice cars? And she said, well, I work at Morgan Stanley Dean with us. How can I get a job there? She says, you need to go to UCLA. I said, I'm not going to school. She says, they're not going to hire you. I said, I'm not going to go to college. She says, you're not going to work at Morgan Stanley Dean with her. I said, I'm not going to school. She says, they're not going to hire you. I said, I'm not going to go to college. She says, you're not going to work at Morgan Stanley Dean

with her. I said, let me see if I can find a creative way to get a job. So I went and printed my resume. And I put a cover letter with a nice joke, getting creative. I faxed the 200 places, Goldman, Merrill, Smith, Barney, TD Waterhouse, Morgan, all of these places. I got 30 callbacks, 15 of them laughed because the joke was funny. The other 15 offered me an interview, three gave me offers.

At 21 years old, I started working on Morgan's standing dean. What a day before 9-11. Geez. So let's see. How many other people there didn't have a college degree? No. You were the only one. Yeah. OK. How were the only one.

Yeah. Okay. How good was that joke? It's the question. Yeah, what was that joke? What was the joke? Wait a minute. I really want to know where you go from here.

I really want to know where you go. Have we got to hear the joke first? Yeah, we got to hear the joke. I tell you the joke, the joke was a father has three sons. He tells us three sons when I die, I want you to drop $1,000 in the, what do you call it? The kids get great when I'm dying in front of family you have to show how much you love your father

Kythe first son drops ten hundred dollar bills okay second son drops twenty fifty dollar bills third one is a financial advisor he cuts a check for three thousand dollars take the cash and walks no that's brilliant I wouldn't if you want a guy creative like me hire me. Oh, that's great. But what do you say to that? I'm curious. Any there, you know, the job that I have it because of my last name, because I'm special, because I'm smart, because of how did I get that job?

So like, they don't hire people. She was right, right? Like, she wasn't wrong. They don't hire people without a college degree, which is terrible, by the way, because you learn nothing at college. The only thing you learn at college is to have contempt for the working class, like to have contempt for people

who don't have a college degree. So this is not a pro-college argument. This is like an anti-mortem-standly argument that they insist that people have this credential just for their own prestige, right? It has nothing to do with what you learn there. But anyway, setting that aside. It's their choice. It's their choice.

They're right, they can. A lot of companies don't implement that rule. It's changed since then. It's changed, yeah. It's slowly changed, yeah. Especially the big tech company. Yeah, totally. Tech is good on this front, only this front, but anyway.

Yeah, it's done. Cut that clip up real quick. Yeah, it's a poor thing that happened. But, so, I don't have to have an explanation for it. I mean, I assume it has something to do with your Charisma and the force of your personality and the something unique that that was a that was first conveyed through that cover letter And then in interviews which I think you know like I think you're being a little bit like I just a conscious I but because because the fact that you're the only one who did it right like the fact that you're the only one who managed to do it

I disagree. I'm not the only one that did it. My friend Steve Avetian was another one-point-a-gpe guy. He came out, he was, you know, doing nothing. He was helping out as that as a truck driver. Him and his buddy Alfred decide to go be in truck drivers. You tell me who's a truck driver. They were nobody's like, oh, they're gonna make it in business, no four-year, no two-year, no nothing. They were nobody's like, oh, they're gonna make it in business.

No for you, no for you, no nothing. They're running a $300 million transportation business today. So I can go on all of these stories to say, hey, let's keep feeling sorry for everybody. There's a big difference between sympathy, empathy, and trying to rise up, right? No, I agree, dude. I don't want to come off as someone who's like, oh,, I agree, dude. I don't want to come off as someone who's like,

oh, you should all feel sorry. I don't want to come off that way at all. Okay, we're on the same page there. Because they don't feel that way. Like, they're proud of their work. They feel that it comes to them. I think what they're doing is also there is something that should be proud of.

Okay, so that would be my next question would be like, like, someone has to be the person who is the custodial staff, right? Who's not going to make it big, right? Someone has to be the person who is stocking the shelves at the supermarket, right? We all rely on the labor of... That's a choice. But we need them.

We need... No one's judging them. Right, but I'm saying, so because we need them, we should be invested in those jobs granting dignity and a living wage, because we need them to not be in this job, or in this job, or in, right, so but from their point of view, they're struggling. Oh yeah, and they are struggling.

And by the way, I, I, So what's the answer to that yet? But why don't we see see why are they struggling? The thought because you can't live on $15 an hour in New York City. But why are they struggling though? Why are they struggling though? Is it just is your argument only they can make it on 15 bucks an hour? The housing market. Okay. Okay. So why do we have a house? Marriage is a big part of it. Actually, you talk about this a lot. Okay. So so okay. So but why are let's actually dissect. Oh yeah. Okay. Why why they're why they're how I'm gonna write it down. I, so, so okay, so by why are let's actually dissect. Oh yeah, okay, why they're, why they're how

to say I'm gonna write it down. I'm gonna write notes. So tell me why they're struggling. I'm gonna take notes. I'll be the student. Oh god, this is so much. And flaky. By the way, but you know, guys, I hope you understand

like this is why the audience lights these types of conversation. I love it. And this is why I have so much respect for you that you don't, you go anywhere and talk to anybody and you Are by the way I have a very serious question Just stay there. Stay there. We'll go here. So why are they here? Why are they struggling?

So so there's sort of three tiers of people in let's say what we would call labor the working class Right the top tier is not struggling at all. Cops, electricians, plumbers, like, there's a lot of dignity in those jobs right now. They're well paid, they make a living wage, and a lot of them are able to afford their own homes, especially if they live in red states where housing is not the same as it is in New York.

Are you talking about the working class? Blue collar jobs here, if you will? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's the upper echelon. The upper echelon of working class. Exactly, job here, if you will. Okay, so that's the upper echelon. People are rich, the upper echelon of working class. Exactly, yeah. A lot of government employees.

Exactly, yeah, exactly. Yeah, okay. Then you have the middle tier who are people who, like, they are, they're not poor. And I wouldn't even say they're struggling. They're not like lying awake at night. How am I gonna pay for this or that? Although right now it's very difficult

because of inflation, but that's a unique situation right now. Their biggest struggle is they do not have access to the American dream because they cannot, they're not gonna be home owners in their lifetime. And we know that owning a home is how you transfer that wealth to the next generation, right? What's sort of a classic standard for like how we, what we call like middle class life, right?

And who are these people? What type of A lot of truckers are in this position This is people who are making between 40 and 60 65 you know what retail truck drivers What I want one one lower I would say so yeah, so so truckers, you know People who are you know, let's say in you know the trades often, you know if they're not maybe editors and And graphic designer types. A lot of people in the bottom layer of the tech industry, these are people who are making, like I said,

between 40 and 60, if you're making 60 and you're living in New York, you'll never own a home, if you're making 40 and you're living here, it would probably be difficult as well. And then you've got that bottom tier of people who we, all of these people are people who's labor, we rely on to exist, right? We rely on them not deciding to become an entrepreneur and make a million dollars so that they no longer have to do these jobs.

Just as a society, we rely on them, right? But who are these bottom-run people? So bottom-run are people who are in retail, people who are cashiers, 3.5 million people are cashiers, 3 million retail associates in America, fast food workers. Right, now it happens to be that even though the federal minimum wage is 7.25 an hour, it's 9.59 an hour, most of these people now are making between 12 and 15. The problem is that in many of the places, that is not a living wage,

that is basically poverty wages. You know, so where I live, I live in Brooklyn, I actually don't live in like one of the most expensive neighbors, I live in immigrant neighborhood. It's sort of more reasonable. But still, the guy who delivers my Amazon packages would never, could never dream of owning. Yeah, but are these people immigrants?

Well, there's any data of who these people are? Who is? There's like this lower third. It's a data of who these people are? Who is? Like this lower third. It's a lot of it. I'll tell you who they are. Are they just naturally born Americans or just strived to be McDonald's works? I doubt it.

The question of which tier you end up in is very interesting. What it seems to me like, and this is something that you've brought up on your show, is that one of the number one predictors of whether you end up in the bottom is whether you come from a single mother family and whether you are a single mother or a single parent. Because we know that marriage is very tightly correlated with higher earnings and economists don't know exactly why that is, but it's quite hard to be

poor if you're married. I mean, that's just a weird phenomenon of American life that nobody wants to talk about. You're saying it's hard to be poor if you're married? Married men, let me give you a statistic, because this is really this blew my mind. So the median income, it's around $44,000 a year, right? The median income for a black male head of household who's not married is $33,000 a year. The median income for a black male head of household who's married is $93,000 a year, which is not a sneak, nobody who's making that is struggling, you know?

That's a person who's living a middle-class life. So the answers are not, oh, you should feel sorry for these people, right? The question is, how do we get more people from the bottom into the higher rungs? But again, like I said, like, some of that labor, right, fast food workers, right? We rely on that. We rely on there being people to... But stay there, though.

So, let me ask you a question. The population today is what? 7.9 billion. Yeah. Okay. How long do it take us to double that population? Six years. Six years ago we were at 3.6 billion. How long did it take us to double that 3.6 billion to 1.8 billion? 40, 50 years prior to that. We have 1.8 billion. I can keep going back and back and right. Okay. The idea of a person staying where they're at, everything in life is about graduating.

Okay, what's graduating? One should not stay in a position forever without graduating to the next level. We should grow and we should create an environment where people are developing and increasing the level of contribution to society. That's me. I worked at Burger King.

I wanted to be a cashier. They never made me a cashier. I worked as a chef. I was a cook. I made Wapper Chef at Burger King. I bragged about it. I was a chef. They gave me a medium shirt and I was six one.

You could see my lower back. My guys were coming to laugh at me. No joke, my friends know exactly what I'm talking about. Can I just say, you are amazing. Like, you're so cool. You've been through and like what you've achieved. Like, it's very cool. Like, your story is very inspiring.

I appreciate that. Thank you. But also for me, everything that's inspiring to me, I look at guys like what life he lived and how he became who he is today from sleeping on a couch as a comedian to having made it in the insurance business and nothing in his background says about good for him. I see him from going from military to then becoming a comedian next thing, you know, he's on deaf comedy jam.

And he made it. But by the way, you know, a lot of us have that story of going from nothing to making it, making it doesn't mean being a billionaire. Yes, I was having a call with a penguin who were launching the next business book. And you know how you're talking to publishers and you're going through a book title. I'm like, well, you know, we have to talk about the book title is. And a part of yesterday's conversation was, I said, the most important question to ask is, who do you want to be in life? Or what do you mean? I said, listen, you don to ask is, who do you want to be in life?

And what do you mean? And I said, listen, you don't have to be baseless. Baseless wanted to be baseless. You don't have to be a mask. You don't have to be a millionaire. But who do you want to be in life? The moment you know who you want to be in life, go solve for that.

What's not healthy is if you chose to live a regular life and you're envious of somebody else that chose to live a bigger life. The life of a bigger life isn't a regular life and you're envious of somebody else that chose to live a bigger life. The life of a bigger life isn't a better life. It's not an attractive life. A lot of people only see what happens 20, 30 years later. Nobody wants to see what happened those 5, 10, 15 years while they were not there at any of the events.

It's called the iceberg back. It sucks. It sucks. So guess how many people want to go through the 10, 15, 20 year period? Not many, man. It is horrible. It's tough. It's scary. Costs, marriages, relationship, family time, fun party and all that stuff. This whole concept of winning at a higher level sucks. Now If somebody says, well, I don't want to go through it. No one should judge them. No problem. You're right. You can go and contribute at any levels that you want. But the question I ask you is,

why are those people in the situation they're in? What policy caused them to be in the situation they're in? And who created those policies? Yeah. That's the problem. Yeah. So if we keep printing money and throwing money to poor, and then wondering,

Yeah, I'm against that. Yeah. You're against that. I'm against that. I'm against welfare. Okay. You're against that. I'm against that. I'm against welfare. Okay. You're against welfare. Yeah, because they make the working class support the poor.

I hate that. So how do we, so how do we lift up the middle class? What's your way of lifting up the middle class? That is the, that's, that's the question. I'm curious. So each tier needs different things, you know, like this or the top tier, like they need respect. What do cops need from us right now?

Big time respect. They freaking need our respect, because they're out there getting shot and killed and they can't do their jobs and the criminals aren't scared of them anymore. You know? This is a job that every American relies on and the elites sit there and they smear these people. They smear these people who are out there giving their lives to defend them. It makes me crazy. We're on the same page. Union high-skilled trades. These are great jobs. What do they need? They need our respect.

They need the next generation of people who are good with their hands and intelligent and smart to have a pathway to that. Vocational schools, we don't have any vocational schools. The idea that this is a respectable job so that kids who are coming from, you know, who are not good at school maybe, you know, that they have access to that version of the American groups.

So it's a top tier really, and it's very little, right? They don't need anything from us, they don't need anything from the government, that's for sure, right? You're saying the top tier of the working class? Yes, yes, yes, exactly, yeah. It's a, by the way, it's a very, very good point.

One of the best books on marriage is Love and Respect. I don't know if you've ever read the book, Love and Respect, it may shout out to the authors. It's a great book that if you're married, you may want to read it. If you think about getting married, you ought to read it. Talk about how men need and what women need, the understanding that men just sometimes need what?

Just respect me, man. That's what I need. And then women need love, but I understand the point you're making right there. Okay, what else can we do to lift these guys out at a poverty? Because right now, statistic came out, which concerns me the most. Do you know in the last 70 years,

what the average property value has been compared to your income? Let me ask this question one more time. So, for example, if you make 60 grand a year, and that's the average income in America household income You know what the average property value has been based on that $60,000 a year income Like what they're buying as a house give me to give me the times like three times four times five times six times eight times ten times Like what do you think the average has been is like a? You understand this question. Yes, okay, so what do you think that has been?

It's like a five hundred thousand other house compared to a $60,000. And so no, so let me ask the question one more time. If the average for historically in the last 70 years, if the average American makes 60 grand a year, how many times their income is the average home value in America? Right, so so so 50, 50 years ago, I think it was about two.

Now I think it's more, the you know, the average house now sells for 300,000. So 300,000 is how many times 60? It's six times four, six, seven times? I was eight, six or seven times. So five times, six, three, five, divided by 60. So here's where it is. Historically, it's been five. We've hit two or three.

We've never in the last 70 years gone above seven. It is eight times today. You tell me how to help middle America can't afford that. So you make in 60 grand a year. What's your answer to that? Well, so what happened with that? What is the problem with that? Well, I mean, I think Elizabeth Warren is right

about this. The problem is women entering the workforce and driving up the car. She's talking about that. She's talking about that today. Yeah, she's talking about that today. She's put on that when she talked about 20 years ago. But what you're saying, your problem is that women have entered the workforce and that's been a bad thing for society.

It's been a bad thing for the middle class. That's for sure. You don't sound very pro feminist. I think being more mean that you're not quite, you're not, I mean, I would consider myself feminist. They think women should have the choice, but most women who are working, it's not women like me because they're addicted to their jobs and it gives them meaning in self-esteem.

They're working at Walmart or they're, you know what I mean? They're working because they have to support their family because a man can no longer afford to support a family on a single animal. So what should those women be doing then? They should have a choice. I mean, they should have a choice. I mean, they should have a choice.

I think a lot of women would like to raise their children. But instead of having that, we have a welfare state that's trying to make free pre-K. Again, trying to make working class people pay taxes so their women could go work at, were forced to work at Walmart instead of staying home for a reason. But those women, I get it from K, you know, from zero to five, you know, stay home, raise the kids. But once the kids are in middle school, high zero to five, you know, stay home, raise the kids But once the kids are in middle school high school, you don't need to stay home and take care of your kids anymore Right, so but that's again, it's I could they then have you know a part-time option what Elizabeth Warren are you gonna do with their time if they're just sitting around all day cleaning?

You know, so you're saying that this is a very big argument that she's making and it's a very important This is a very big argument that she's making and it's a very important Very important, you know, for you was your mom working when you were kidding when you were from born to 18 Yeah, the entire time. Yeah, she had a job all those years. She was a full-time or part time teacher And then she was a nurse and she's been doing the same job. A full-time or part time full full full-time. Okay What did your dad do? He was a business man Some may be people call it a shady business businessman, but we won't go there. However, he was working. Oh my God. I love that. That's our people's. That's our heritage. You know, that's our heritage. That's our heritage. But women, this is a true, like you're a person who

loves and respects and finds meaning in their work. Right. But you're saying that most women don't. They have to sacrifice their livelihoods just to put food on the table. What's your argument with women? I'm saying like there's this messed up thing now where what the leftist elites want, right? Build back better, wanted to charge, take taxpayer dollars from working class families, right?

To give them free pre-K. There's something messed up about that because a lot of these women, right? To give them free pre-K. There's something messed up about that because a lot of these women, right, would rather stay home and raise their own kids like you can't do that. You have to work and then pay taxes and we'll take that money you make while you're working and we'll raise your kids, right?

I think that's super messed up. But I wanna come back to housing. What do you think caused the housing? What do you think caused it to be eight times, you know, the income and how do we fix it? Okay, so do you guys know the difference between quantitative easing and tightening? No.

If you want me to, my head to pop off, my head pad, have you? Then please, as an economist, can you tell us the difference? You know, listen, I'm a respectable guy. I'll give you the floor so you can, because I don't want to show off the ticket. No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna quantum physics, quantum leap.

I saw a show once called quantum leap. I don't even know. You sure you don't want to break down and quantitative eas going to take everything. I'm going to quantum physics, quantum leap. I saw a show once called quantum leap. I don't even know. You sure you don't want to break down the quantitative easing and mortgage back. Let me just simplify. Okay, I'm going to explain it to you in the simplest way that you'll be able to teach it to anybody moving forward. Okay. You ever had a credit card?

Yep. Okay. Quantitative easing is when American Express, master car calls you and tells you your credit Limit has gone from five thousand dollars to fifteen thousand dollars. Congratulations to you Quantitative easing is when visa master car calls you and tells you your credit limit has gone from fifteen thousand to Five thousand dollars. Did you understand the difference? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, difference? No, no. Quantitative tightening. Quantitative tightening is 15 becomes five. Quantitative easing is five becomes 15,000. Which means guess what, Adam, go spend more money.

We got your back. That's not your money. But we'll let you spend more money. Quantitative tightening is, listen, we are seeing your spending habits. We take in 10,000 back, your credit, it's only 5,000. For the longest time, since 08, whatever the timeline is being quantitative,

it's like, let's bail all these big guys out. The more we've built people out, the more they've sat around saying, it's okay, my dad is going to bail me out. My dad is going to bail me out. Do whatever you want, bro. My dad is going to bail you. I'm like, 100,000. My dad is going to bail me out.

My dad is going to bail me out. My dad is going to bail me out. It's time to stop bailing these bigger companies out. The two big to fill. Today, when we're going to quantitative tightening, every single month, their plan is to take $95 billion of credit off the table. So what does this mean?

The government's gonna say, hey, Mr. Bank XYZ, you had this much, now we're lowering it. And every month, we're taking 95 billion dollars off the table, okay. They're tightening the economy. We have not experienced this ever. In the history of America, we tried equanimity tighten briefly in 2008 for maybe a couple months, the market crashed when we tried equanimity tightening. Like no, no, no, no, no, no. Here he go.

Here put some more money into the market. Feed more money into the market. When they did that, they build out the guys at the top. The guys at the top got richer. Middle America, the division got wider. Now we got people that can't afford to buy a house. It's eight times their income. What the hell you're gonna do?

Keep increasing the minimum wage. That's not the strategy on what to do. That's not the solution to do that. So we're about to go through quantitative tightening and I hope this next phase that we go through, they don't get in the way of these companies going out of business. The part about capitalism that I love is the following.

And this one, before we move on from this, let me make this point and then you can go to it. This is the part. Because I didn't understand totally. Yeah go to it. This is the part. Cause I didn't understand totally. Yeah, go ahead. This is the part. The part I love about capitalism is four freedoms. You have the freedom to buy.

You have the freedom to sell. We have the freedom to try and last but not least, which some people don't like. We have the freedom to fail. Oh, I love that. It's not awesome. I didn't come up with it. Founding fathers came up. So don't be afraid to work. No, no love that. It's not awesome. I didn't come up with it. Founding father's camera.

So don't be afraid to work. No, no, no, no, no. That was all you had to be passionate about. No, no, no, no. Freedom to sell, freedom to try, and a freedom to fail. We have to let the two big to fail. Fail.

Yes. It's that simple. And we've stopped at the last 15 years. You know what's even scarier? Do you know in the history of America?? Do you know the history of America? Do you know the history of America? Okay, since the Great Depression, do you even practice at 1850s?

Do you know what's the longest time America's ever gone without a recession? When do you think it is? You ready? Today, 14 years. No way. Yes, we've had recessions every five to seven years and they last six months to 43 months.

We have gone 14 years without a recession. We desperately, not in a negative way. We desperately need a recession. Whoa. We desperately need a recession. Whoa. We desperately need a recession. Is that because of because of Uncle Trump? No, no, no. The economic expansion was 129 months prior to the 129 months of economic expansion that we had started and await. So that economic you got you got to go from Bush to Obama to Obama to Trump to so but people think that COVID was a recession.

It was just a brief blip. But we're not like, we're not a backup. Yeah, because of quantitative easing and money printing. And I'm not to call you up, Bob, but so do you think that because this administration isn't admitting like, hey, guys, like it's really bad right now. It's happening. They're just getting like the elastic band is not democratic thing or republican thing you be because during this economic

expansion that we've had we had a year of bush left but when did Obama get elected oh wait can you can you pull up exactly what month to the 128 month economic expansion started. I think it's like some time in the wait. So it's Obama, Obama, Trump, Biden. You got three, you got two, three Democrats, terms is what I'm, I'm not saying three Democrats. You got three Democrats, you got one Republican, okay? And what did all of them pretty much do? Let's print to bail out. What month did it start?

What month did it start? June of 2009. It's a June of 2009. Okay, who was the president June of 2009? Because Obama took office start June of 2009. It's a June of 2009. Okay, who was the president June of 2009? Because Obama took office in January of 2009. So they were elected in an way. So it cannot be the greatest economic expansion, just so you know, but yeah, start it under Obama.

You're so smart. I'm not smart. I'm telling you, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not smart. I've never heard anyone say this and all I do all day is watch the news. No, I'm telling you I'm not figure all this out. I'm not smart. I never heard anyone say this. And all I do all day is watch the news. No, no, I'm not.

Because you're dealing with politicians, people focus on politics, not business. And literally like, all right, we're changing everything. I'm just going to take care of it. No, no, no, you're getting out. But the part, wait, wait, wait, wait. You have to walk me through this. Walk me through easing, tightening,

and exactly how that took housing prices and made them higher. I missed that link, and I can't walk out of here without knowing that. Okay, so think about like if I'm buying a bad paper. Okay, so imagine if there's a bunch of defaults and you're the banker like, hey man, bail us out.

Don't worry, give us all the shitty paper, we'll buy it. Because you know, when, let's just say I'm a small little bank and I got 10 million bucks, okay? If I'm 10 million dollar bank and I take $500,000 home loans, how many home loans can I get? 20 of them, right? Because I'm giving that loan. But let's just say if I get 10 houses I finance,

that's how much money, that's 5 million bucks, okay? I don't keep that 5 million bucks. I go to the bank and I sell it, and I make a percent or two, or whatever the percentage, on me selling the paper to somebody else. For years, they've been buying paper, and nobody gives a shit if it's good or bad paper, okay? That's the whole big short principle. Don't worry about it, we'll buy the paper. Just send it to us, we'll send it to us, and nobody gives a shit if it's good or bad paper. Okay, that's the whole big short principle.

Right. Don't worry about it, we'll buy the paper. Just send it to us, we'll send it to us and all of a sudden they're like, we're no longer buying it. Wait, what? No, no, we're no longer China's, we're no longer buying it. What do you mean you're no longer buying it? We're no longer buying it.

Oh shit. We have to bail these banks out because they're no longer buying it. So if you don't allow people to fail and you keep getting in their way of failing, you're not allowing the pruning process to come through. So you're saying in a natural situation, the price of the houses would be determined by how much money a bank had and was able to guarantee in terms of a mortgage. The price went up because another bank was willing to buy that bank's mortgage that it gave. Is that the argument? No, no. Quantity is like fake money was entered into the market to not prevent those big companies, to prevent those big companies from going out of business. Fake money. Right. So it's kind of like a... But how exactly did that impact the price of a house? How did it impact the price of the house? Yeah, how did that drive the price is up? There is more money circulating in the market. Oh, I see just like an inflation argument

Yeah, the more money the more because there's more money Okay, but income didn't go up. Mm-hmm. So so so that's you can't you got to let the market fail You like like okay, so the principal do you have any kids? No. Okay, I got four of them right? Okay, I'm trying to figure out what the hell is going on with this parenting stuff. I'm figuring out every time I'm trying to learn

what it is to parent. But the part about my dad, one of the best things my dad did is the phone. I went to my dad when I said, that I'm 49,000 dollars in debt, I need you to bail me out. Okay, I said, you're my father, you love me, you're my hero, I need you to bail me out. Okay? I said, you're my father, you love me, you're my hero, I need you to bail me out. He sat me in and he says, you're going to learn the best

lesson from me today, buddy. I said, what's that? I'm not going to bail you out. I said, but I'm your son. I'm not going to bail you out. I know you can figure out a way to get out of this. I think you're going to pull it off. This is a man who's a 99 cents store cashier who dropped out of school in eighth grade. His son almost followed in his footsteps, but I took four more years, okay? But he dropped out in eighth grade, just to start working. Regular guy, okay. For one week, I don't talk to my dad. I go around telling everybody, I'm fucking old.

You're dad this and you're dad this and you're dad this and you're, you know, my dad built me. I can't believe you're that and I'm just bitching about my dad. You know what I did? I came back and I said, I'm gonna pay this freaking money off. And I did. Okay. Eventually paid it off. My credit went from $484, $495, $499, to a nice credit score, right?

But my dad was not afraid of his son failing. Now if I would have failed, if I would have failed, could I have gone and retaliated against him and started doing drugs and doing stupid shit to hurt him? Of course. That's the risk a parent has to take. And that's the risk a nation has to take. Some of these companies may go out of business and it may hurt for a year or two, but we got to go through it. We got to stick through it and go through it. And I don't think politicians are allowing that to happen because the people that are supporting their campaigns

protect them and own them. And that's what I don't like about American politics. The lobbyist who Paul Manafort sat in your chair just two and a half months ago, there are so many of them out there that have bought these politicians and it's screwing up low and middle income families. Unfortunately. I have to say it's so spiritual what you're saying. Like our whole religion is based on the same principle, which is that like, you know, if you don't, if you can't, if you don't have the option of failure, if you don't have the option of sin, then you also don't have the option of redemption,

and nothing means anything. And I think that is actually a value that the American working class is deeply attached to, which is the idea of autonomy. Like, I want the fruit of my labor. I don't want to hand out. I want the right to fail, because without the right to fail,

you don't have the right to succeed. I mean, that's, that's the reason. Can I just read the quick definition of quantitative easing? Just to kind of build your case a little bit. Just so, and I'm going to process how I see it. And you tell me if I'm understanding this correctly. So QE, quantitative easing, is a monetary policy strategy used by central banks like the Fed. With QE, a central bank purchases securities, this is, this is half of it.

Oh. Purchases securities in an attempt to reduce interest rates, increase the supply of money, and drive more, and here's the key word, and drive more lending to consumers and businesses. Like Pat said, oh, your credit card's five, your credit card limit is five, let's bump it up to 15. So this is kind of the inflation thing is they just increase the credit limit, increase the lending. What the lending what's lending

It's just taking on more debt. Yeah, you're boring. Hey take on more debt Wait, but you're not making anymore money. Yeah, you'll figure it out just take bar more money But I'm not my business actually isn't profitable. I will bail you out We'll keep you afloat Mm-hmm That's essentially what you're saying is they're just increasing the credit limit spend spend spend spend spend spend But it doesn't seem like there's justification based on your income. That's how I'm processing what you're saying with the increasing the credit limit. Yeah.

Yeah. Listen, the failing sucks. It's emotional. It's painful. It's embarrassing. It's publicly humiliating. You know, in Hollywood, you know know how many like I saw a movie the other day with Nicholas Cage a new movie that came out You know what the movie is about? It's about the character in the movie called Nick Cage Who's the greatest actor in the world. Oh god no longer is that Was it good to be a no? I think it's worth watching But the whole story is about him Wow, like it's a movie. He's acting himself, but it's worth watching. But the whole story is about him.

Wow. It's a movie, he's acting himself, but it's like when they no longer want you to be in a movie. Do you know how hard that is as an actor where you go from being Nicholas freakin cage to Nick Cage? It was up, Nick. He ain't no Nick. This guy, I don't know when he won the Oscar.

He's a freaking, he's a, but the point is like, how hard is it when you do one bad movie at Flops and then boom? Waterworld. Remember Waterworld with Kevin Costner? Shit, I mean, they got a nice house in the University studios, but that's pretty much it. And Zilan, just to piggyback it, I mean,

like your amazement, especially with Pa, who was such an amazing guy, not kissing asked for by that. So listen to this. So I was in Hollywood. I was in the military. I was in Air Force. Thank you so much for this. I would do my sisters retiring 25 years on Friday. My brother was in for six years.

You know, went to there, I know they got put me here to make people laugh. That's my number one, I know that's what it is. So fail, I'm talking about Hollywood. I've been on deaf comedy jam. I had a special in Kevin Hart called the next level, which I think I've grounds to sue, because it's called the next level, and nothing happened. But anyway, so I got me and Pat connected through,

you know, Instagram and now I'm here. And then just, just of what you were saying, last week, Pat, you had like a PHP thing at the other office. So he had like what, 30, 40 people. I walked in because we want to show the sketch that we did on the video, and I'm hanging out. Pat's up there, he's sitting on the table,

he's doing the speech where you were comparing Pat greed and fear and he made a chart with so much shit on it, I almost had a hard time, I was through it, but I just sat there and listened to him for 20 minutes. I almost quit comedy and sat down and started selling fucking shit. I can't do that. I almost started selling the shirts because it was,

it was like, and again, reading and getting all that knowledge you fed your brain so much. It's like you could talk to him about anything and it's like a lesson learned. It started selling insurance because it was, and again, reading and getting all that knowledge you fed your brains so much. It's like you could talk to them about anything and it's like a lesson learned. I just want metaphor that anything everyone will understand here because we all know who the person we'll talk about is but it's the freedom to fail.

We all know the story of Michael Jordan in 10th grade. He tried out for the varsity basketball team and what happened, he got cut. So to use your, what? You don't know the story about Mike and Jordan. He, yeah, back, yeah. I don't know anything about sports. It's right. Michael Jordan, the greatest basketball player,

potentially the greatest athlete of all time. The story goes in Wilmington, North Carolina. He tries out for the basketball team. 10th grade gets cut. Okay. Wow. So again, with the freedom to fail. And he's very good, right? Yeah, my turn turned out to be pretty okay. I don't know if with the freedom to fail, he, and he's very good, right? It turned out to be pretty okay.

I don't know if I'm gonna check his rencess. And the greatest hockey player in the world. That's right. More goals than anybody. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, but. Exactly. But to use the analogy or metaphor, I mean, you're the journalist here,

I don't know if it's an analogy or a metaphor, either way, he had to go and improve. So rather than make excuses, oh, the coach didn't like me, or the parent comes and talks to the coach, hey, do my kid like, you know, everyone wants to medal these days when it's a trophy culture,

whatever it is that these kids here have these days, he had to go get better. Okay. And it turned out pretty well for the guy. Okay, but here's the question. But the freedom to fail is what inspired him to actually make the team he had to go get better. Okay. And it turned out pretty well for the guy. Okay, but here's the question. But the freedom to fail is what inspired him to actually make the team the following year.

Yes, however, is there not a deep tension between what you guys are saying on the one hand about freedom to fail, taking responsibility, you have the power, you have the ability. And on the other hand, this quantitative easing, where if you're really, really rich, the government's going to come in and protect you. Like on the one hand, yeah, I see how it's consistent with what you're saying. On the other hand, to a little guy who he doesn't get bailed out when he defaults on his credit card,

he doesn't get bailed out when he can't pay his loans, he gets his house taken away. And I think that that is something that, you know, Elizabeth Warren and Donald Trump totally were in agreement about and totally correct, which is that there is a level at which it is rigged on behalf of the people who have already made on behalf of the rich. You're not going to go to jail for white collar crime because it costs too much to prosecute it, you know? But if you jump the turn style, you know, you're going, I mean, obviously now,

pro-wrestles don't think you should go away from that. Yeah, exactly. You can kill people and get away with it now, but you know, that there's a level at which this idea of accountability adheres like a gazillion percent if you're in the bottom and like zero percent if you're at the top. I agree.

I actually agree with you. And I don't appreciate that. I don't appreciate that. I don't appreciate when politicians get in there and the guys at the top can buy them and you prevent them from going out of business. Let them fail. Let them fail.

A great philosopher once said, let the boy watch. He needs to say let them fail. I don't know that that's right, but I bet it's hilarious. Do you know that philosophy? I've heard about it once again. Let the boy watch Bill Farrow. Bill the billionaire's fail. Yeah. Will Farrow needs to say let the billionaires fail.

Well, this is I don't know if you agree with Chamath. You know who Chamath Palipatee is? The tech guy Silicon Valley Golden State Warriors. The first time that I heard somebody say, fuck him, let him fail was during COVID when they build out the airline businesses. Do you remember all this? Yeah. And it was like people, what?

He's came on and saying this. I mean, he's got, you know, his whole SPAC situation going on, people, you know, agree with them, disagree with them. But he basically was like, fuck him, let him fail. And people on CNBC, their minds are all over the, Chamathra, was that article right there? US shouldn't bail out hedge funds,

billionaires during COVID pandemic. This is hedge funds, but there's ones first. Yeah, there's also airlines, but he was like, fuck him, let him fail. And people on financial media, CNBC, Bloomberg were like, brain splattered on the wall, what do you mean, let him fail? He's like, yeah, let him fail.

And he's essentially what Pat's saying think stop bailing the big boys out Yeah, because if you get in the arena like can you imagine like imagine a UFC is like No, you can't hit that hard. Yeah, oh no, you know Ali's been the best for a long time. We have to protect them. Give him those points. No, bro He lost it's a fight if if the greatest of all time fails in front of millions of people and everybody writes about it, let these guys fail a little bit as well. Okay, if they don't make it bad, no problem. If you do, you do. Did you see this one Bitcoin company? It's called Celsius, right? I don't know. And if you guys saw this or not, this company's's got a valuation of $25 billion.

Do you know what's happened to them in the last six months in valuation? They went from $25 billion to $167 million. This guy went from buying the Yankees to now he's being called on the board that he can't buy nothing. He went from being able to go to a restaurant nobu and says, this sushi's awesome.

I'm buying this place with 15 million bucks. That 25 billion dollars down to 167. Guess what this means? Guess what? The market is saying, it's okay. That's what you did. You somehow, someway screwed up. You lost.

This happens to everyone. You make a bad investment and the business goes under, you thought it was going to do good? Let them fail. So anyways, I think we've touched on this fail topic plenty of times. So do you mind taking a moment? I would want to know some of your like the areas of you say you're a Marxist, specifically what part of Marxist do you agree with? Because you'll agree with me about all of them, I think. Yeah. I'm curious. I'm really curious. I'm really happy you went here.

But I also, I really want to hear about your parents getting divorced and then remarried and then divorced and met. Was that about ideology, like about the imperialism of the communists? Let me tell you. That's a great story. You know what's crazy? My sister's Christian, my brother me tell you that. That's a great story. You know, it's crazy. My sister's Christian, my brother-in-law, he's a Bahai. He was a Bahai, and now he's a Christian as well.

What are you, are you religious? I'm a Christian myself, yeah. But he was a Bahai, she was a Christian. They got married politically, they're on the same page. They're happily married, celebrating, I think 19 or 20 years of marriage, of where they're at right now. They got two beautiful kids, Grace and Sean, love these guys.

My mom and dad, they're both Christians, okay, so religious on the same page, politically complete opposite page, World War III would have gotten started because of these two guys. They should have never gotten married because politically they're on opposite. This is why I respect Kelly and Conway and George Conway. Yeah. Tell you man, shout out to you. My parents couldn't do it. They pulled out, figured out a way to do it.

Yeah, so let's see. Time will tell if they stay together. It's, yeah, that's kind of what happened for them. They should, they shouldn't have gotten married. I'm kind of glad they did. And I'm kind of glad they got married the second time, because that's why I'm here. You were in the second time.

I was like, let's try to make it work. Let's make a baby and come's Patrick. Like shit, this is gonna work, let's get it worse. So that's, see, Patrick's had the great example of failure. They came back and I was you. You made him to fail. I don't know. Freedom of fail.

Pat is here because, this is why we pay Vinnie the big that's right. I gotta bring it all. So guys, don't need to, donate to my go- me for my rent. But Pat, is that an example? Like, they failed. They said, you know what, we're gonna try again. They made this freaking amazing guy. And now, that's it.

We will be here. We will be here. Please. You know, if the social media was around when I was sitting, you wouldn't say this great guy. Because when social media was around, I was a professional, you know, till today. But at that time, it was like trying to compete

as the ultimately, 20 some years ago. Yeah. Thank God for all the Silicon Valley folks to not have invented Snapchat, Instagram. Back when we were like younger, oh yeah, forget it. I'm so grateful for that. Totally. So go ahead, so tell us.

Oh yeah, yeah. Marxism. Okay, let me start with the things I don't agree with. I don't think that work is inherently oppression. He really thought that. It was like that labor was oppression. I don't think that. I think there's dignity in labor.

And I don't think you can get self-esteem from something somebody gives you. You can only get it by working for it. And so I totally disagree with Marx on that. I disagree that the only thing between people is power. He was sort of like, he got that from Hegel, but like that idea that like, we should replace a worldview based on right versus wrong with the worldview based on who has power and who doesn't, or that anybody who employs someone is, you know, in a relationship that's oppressive.

I don't believe in any of that, you know, obviously I don't believe in what he thought about religion. I think that religion's really, really important to a functioning side. Why? How do you mean by religion? What was his view on religion? You're saying Karl Marx here. Yeah, yeah.

He was like a religion. He was like a materialistic. Yeah, exactly. You know, he was materialism. Yeah, yeah. I don't believe any of that. And he was an atheist tapadil. And I'm very against like critical race theory, which is they took the Marxist, you know,

it was really a hagelian binary and they applied it to race and said, okay, that power binary, right, that Marx thought was like between like the bourgeoisie, the boss, and then the laborer, right, where the only thing between those two was a power imbalance and oppression. In critical race theory, they say you have white people and people of color, and it's that same thing, right? Like white people have all the power, and their only relationship with people of color is oppressive. I think that's all disgusting,

and terrible, and gross, and wrong, and what the worst people to ever walk planet are believed. So I don't believe any of that, but I like to say that like the problem with pedagogues theory is the insufficiency of Marxism, not that it's Marxist, because what I mean by that is to me, what Marx got right, I don't know if it was true for his moment, but in our moment, right now, fundamentally,

the divide in America is not about politics, and it's not about race, it's about class. We have a huge class divide in America that separates the college educated, you know, from the working class. Like that is the fundamental reality of American life. If you have a college educated, you know, from the working class. Like that is the fundamental reality of American life. If you have a college degree, you will make, on average, a million dollars more over the course of your lifetime

than if you don't. You will have better health. You will live longer and your children will be upwardly mobile. You will have access to the American dream. And if you don't, increasingly, you won't. Increasingly, you will die sooner. Your body will break down earlier. You'll face deaths of despair.

I mean, it's bad, right? And you will not have access to the American dream. Increasingly, you won't be able to buy a home. You won't be able to access that next level. So that divide, like I'm seeing that through a class, that seeing it through a class analysis, using the lens of class to understand the real struggles in America. That, to me, is Marxist, but the reason I say, I think you would agree with me is, I noticed something during COVID, which was that the people who opposed the lockdowns, they were doing it because, yes, there was the freedom thing,

yes, but that wasn't the thing that motivated the emotional response on the right to these authoritarian lockdowns. What motivated the emotional response was what motivated me, which was the disgust, with allowing yourself because of your financial security to rise so far above the people you relied on to survive, meaning we're going to enforce a lockdown because we can work from home. Right. We're going to keep making our money and protect ourselves from the plague, but we're

going to force you to go out into the plague and stock those shelves and bring those packages and bring us that food. And we're going to then tell you how to live your life. So we're going to make, there's going to be nothing out there for you to do except labor for us, right? Except deliver our packages, right? Nothing's going to be open for you. You're going to have to brave the plague and go out into the danger so we can protect

ourselves and then they misunderstood what was essentially their economic privilege, right, of being able to work from home as virtue. They thought they were more virtuous because they were staying home, right? So they took this thing that was a class divide where they really wore in such a better situation than the people who they relied on to work and keep them alive. And then they wanted to keep that, that they made that distinction even bigger and bigger and bigger and kept pushing for policy to make that distinction even great and great and greater And what I saw on the right was a Marxist disgust

With with with the bourgeoisie with these educated elites for Creating a situation that benefited them suddenly their houses were worth so much more, right? But then and then oh and then the kicker was, as soon as they had a vaccine, they were like, oh, now you have to take it or you get fired, right? Like, it was so disgusting. And I think that that disgust is marks, I'm called that Marxist in nature. It is a disgust with a class divide

that one side is sitting there benefiting from, and then stewing in its own sort of moral virtue while oppressing other people. Like that's a Marxist analysis of COVID, and I bet you would agree with my analysis. Did you read Karl Marx's book or Carlito? No, none of that is good. Yeah, so for me,

I'm gonna sign up for whatever she's talking about. This is the, but, Carl's cousin or brother that we forgot about Scott Elito. You got you got you got to give her some credit though. That's amazing because the remote the college educated remote worker lifestyle WFH work from anywhere work from home. I'm living in Tulum now moving to Miami. Hey, just but I got that say something. That's what she's saying is very accurate versus, hey, go deliver my groceries, go to the door, Dash. I don't think that's Marxism.

That has nothing to do with Marxism. Okay, you're adding by 5% please. That's not Marxism. What would you call it? That's not, a lot of those are libertarian philosophies that you have, you know, where leave people alone and stop forcing shit down my like, let me live my life and get the hell out of my way and stop thinking you're

so much more special than me because you got a degree and I don't. That's not Mark's, a part of Mark's was he felt there was people that were better to be put in charge to lead others rather than, you know, he was the one that thought most of the people were dumb. That's Marxist idea was more from the standpoint of there is us who are more educated than you and we know what's right for you to live in.

You don't believe in that, that's not your approach. So a lot of the Marxist, you know, I've interviewed probably more communist on a YouTube channel than anybody has done on YouTube, I like talking to communists because, you know, it's a great conversation to have, but let me give you an idea about what I noticed during COVID.

You almost won the worst thing that happened to COVID. Which political part do you think lost during COVID? Well, so I, something that I like to say is, I'm gonna get canceled for saying this, I'm going to get canceled for saying this, but I am going to get canceled for saying this, but I think for a long time reality had a liberal bias. Like, it was the liberals who were pushing equality for blacks. It was the liberals who were pushing equality for gays.

Things that we all now agree are like common-sensical, right? Like, that every human deserves to live in dignity. But I think over the last five years, last three years, the last two years, and certainly over COVID with the school lockdowns, with the endless lockdowns, with the, you know, this oppression of the working class, I really think that reality has sort of started to take

on a bit of a conservative bias. Like it does seem to me that the right increasingly on questions that matter very much to the American people, like the right to have a say over their children's education, their children's life, their right to bodily autonomy, their right to live in dignity, their right to the American dream. A lot of these things, I think, increasingly you hear conservatives speaking to where most Americans are at and representing a reality that the left has really sort of left in the

dust. Yeah. I agree. I agree that it's an, and by the way, some of the folks that maybe are listening to you that are more your side politically are kind of sitting there saying, well, you can't say that because if we do, you know, women do something, then you just see the stat that a million people switched from Democrat to Republican. The story just came out two weeks ago. You're helping that even more. But I would say this, the political party that lost during COVID, they initially won. It's kind

like a basketball game when they came and said, oh, you know, the Celtics are up 28 points on the first quarter. The Celtics lost by, I'm just going to the Celtics lost by 17 points. They go and stay warrior. So the Democrats started off with a big lead in the first half. Oh my God. Look at you. Freaking Republicans and in Fort Corde of Cameron. What the hell were these guys doing?

It, it unfortunately, unfortunately, a part of COVID was awesome for America to see. I'm not talking the loss of loved ones. Any of that's, I'm talking a part of COVID was awesome for America to see. I'm not talking the loss of loved ones any of that. I'm talking a part of COVID was it revealed what the motive really was for the people on the left. Big time. It revealed. And what do you think that motive was? Control.

I know what's right for you. You know, last night, Shada to Elena, who works here, do you know what a concept of build back better came out of? The world economic forum. Yeah, so the world economic forum is the original buildback better. If you ever do you have the link to this of I'm gonna show this. I'm gonna send this to you. I want you to pull this up and and just take a look at this article on a world economic forum and look at what the date is. That's what's concerning.

When was the election, by the way? When was the election? November of? Of what year? Okay. So I want you to look at this article, Tyler, pull this article up that I just sent you. Pull this article up and look at the date. It's kind of weird. I'm not I'm not I think if you're watching this folks I think you need to

dig into this for your own self and do a little bit of research. Spend 30 minutes on this and play around and see what you figure out. And Pat the world for is it just a bunch of people rich elites that are just gathering talking about what what's good for us and what's not good for us. I know some of them we talking about how you should know anything in your new world order. They wanted to become, okay, so watch this. What is the date? July of May, a little bit smaller. So they see the logo at the top and they know what the link is.

What's the logo at the top? If you can zoom in, can they see it? Right, they're zooming a little bit on the logo. All the way at the top of the website. It says world economic forum. If you look at the link, it's the world Economic forum website. More look at the date July 13, 2020. Oh my god. I feel like I need a tinfoil hat

And in the back better, we must reinvent capitalism and then Biden would not even Holding anything back, comes and they call it the build back, back better. The pandemic has brought us to focus of vulnerabilities in our systems and institutions, but it also offers us a chance to shape a more resilient and sustainable world.

Here's how businesses and policy makers can start building the green and inclusive future we need. Thanks to an ongoing pandemic, thanks to the ongoing panic, the world is off balance and it will remind you so far for years to come, far from settling into a new normal, we should expect the COVID-19 domino effect,

triggering further disruptions, positive as well as negative over the decade ahead. Okay, so if you keep going lower and lower, there's a part that they talk about, few different things. Okay, go lower, that's the part. So right there, the world's largest shipping company is setting up a research center

to decarbonize the industry. The great reset after COVID-19 must put people first. Four-way stakeholder capitalism can create a more resilient post-COVID-Men-Out region. So I don't know, you know, like think about it from this standpoint, imagine know, you know, like think about it from this standpoint. Imagine if, you know, if 30 years from now, a person goes up and goes runs for office and their campaign is called Make America Great Again. 30 years from now.

Okay, I'm going to be 73. What's the first thing we're going to be thinking about? Trump, you know what I'm saying? You stole that. What? What? Make America Great Again was from a guy named Trump You know at the billionaire. Yeah, you guys weren't with that guy. Yeah, make America great So you should imagine if you take a campaign from somebody in Germany on what his campaign was and it's the

Identical and you're not even changing a little bit grow back better, you know like for baton, we need to build back better to reset. A true recovery from COVID-19 will not be about putting things back together the way they were. We need to build back better to reset. This is why so many people are writing a book called The Great

Reset. I think back wrote a book. I think a couple other people are writing a book called The Great Recess. I think Bech wrote a book. I think a couple other people just wrote a book titled The Great Recess. Well, this is their model. It's the great reason you own nothing in behalf of it. Yeah, and that's what it was. So, I don't know. So for me during COVID, what it did is we really figured out what your motives were.

Like, okay, cool. That's what your motive is. No problem. The moment I know, and you know someone's motive, like when a woman goes on a date with a guy, and he straight up says, look, just got of an ugly divorce. I have no desire to have a girlfriend.

But if you want to have fun, let's go to my place, have fun. I'll come to your place if you just want to have fun. So guess what advantage you have now. Now you know my what? Motive. So you can decide what to do with that motive so now you have to make a decision. That's what You either are gonna say Between us. Let's go chill. I'm cool. Okay, or you may say yeah

I've actually been out of a relationship for a couple years and it was a bad one, but I'm ready to get into a relationship and I actually want somebody that I can have a serious relationship with. I've had too many of these tender stuff the last couple years. I'm done. I kind of want to have somebody serious. Now I know your motive. Our motives don't match, but you know mine and I know yours.

Right. The Democrats, some of them on the left, kept their motives, now we know their motives. And it's a beautiful thing, because it's very hard to go back. This is why a lot of people who were Democrats, who were registered Democrats saying, I'm sorry, bro, I'm not with that, Doug. I'm okay, you're there, I'm not with you.

You can't log on to Instagram for whatever reason it doesn't allow us. Just go to World Star. I'd love to see the demographics. I follow World Star like in some times. The challenge about following World Star when you're married is sometimes I'm going through Instagram. Some girls make it, doing twerks in my box like what do you want? I'm like, babe, I just follow World Star.

Don't blame me. I blame World Star, but if you go on World Star, a story came out. They posted a picture recently. I wish I can just show this to you. Oh, here it is. I'm not saying me, blame won't start, but if you go on World Star, a story came out, they posted a picture recently, I wish I can just show this to you. Oh, here it is. They posted this, okay. Is it the post? Is it the tweet?

Yeah, the post tweet. Can you just put this up? And I love the question they posed, okay, on World Star. Very simple, they posed the question. First of all, they posed the question, first of all, they put the tweet from the president, he can zoom in, gas prices have been dropping for 34 straight days,

about 50 cents a gallon. That saves the average driver about $25 a month. I know those extra dollars and cents mean something. It's breathing room, and we're not done working to get prices even lower. Okay, he tweets this. World start puts it up and look what they put. Are the gas prices going down in your city?

I dare you to go down all the comments people left and find one that supports what President Biden- Where are they dropping though? No, no, you just have to see it's comedy if you watch what people are saying. You're a full of shit. I'm so sick of it. You know, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, people are not holding back. So a lot of people are sitting there saying, dude, by the way, you know, a lot of them were saying, we need Trump back.

Yeah. We need Trump back. We need this is not like a bright barred website. No, this is not a turning point USA. No, this is a daily world. This is world star world star. Yeah. Okay. This is not a turning point USA. This is world star. This is world star. World star. Yeah. Okay. This is world star. So COVID revealed a lot and those people who are not lazy who are willing to think for themselves are sitting there saying, this is a man. This ain't working out. Okay. At the top of my priorities for me to have my

economy be okay, my personal life, so I can take care of my wife, my husband, my kids, my family, and I can't do it right now. This shit is too much and they're getting sick of the game. So I think COVID was very good to reveal motives of both political parties and people learned a lot. Like what happened to Bill Mar, Bill Mar blew up. Yeah, Bill Mar sounds like he's a big hit.

Bill Mar sounds like a conservator, like he Mark sounds like a conserver like he would vote for Trump. I know I'm joking, but he sounds completely everything that he was preaching two years ago. He's completely flipped. He doesn't, he doesn't like anything that's. I want to read a super chat real quick because it's about shoots from DL Saint. I really want to know podcast 20 bucks.

Vinnie is one of the funniest comics in the game. He's put in the work a true G keep doing you Vinnie. I love it. That's a shout out for you. Yeah. We have another one here. Andrew Q who said world economic form event 230 was COVID 19 role play. The WF are behind it all and Biden, Macron, Trudeau, Johnson and all leaders who are controlled by the WF. Look at the WF agenda, 2030 and ESG scores. You may want to go to research for yourself. I'm not going to get into it.

But I suggest you may want to look into for yourself. I'm not gonna get into it, but I suggest you may wanna look into Scott Rodriguez. This is for Vinnie. Ha ha ha. Anyways, okay, people are loving Vinnie. And Pat, not to cut you off, and I was watching, so you took notes like a professional, like Pat, you have notes, and there's a stay in school and read books.

Look at my quantitative ease in, my name, government, money, the great reset. You did the turkey with your hand. I did the turkey with the hand and that's me and I'm just not. So, yeah, pose a little thumb, very impressive. Thank you guys. You guys know, if we spent the last 40 minutes going into some issues and getting some thoughts on issues. Let's do it.

Let's go into some of these issues here. Okay. So, let's go through New York Times, July 11th. So this is a recent story. Most Democrats don't want Biden in 2024. New poll shows, okay. President Biden is facing an alarming level of doubt from inside his own party with 64% of Democratic voters

saying they would prefer a new standard bear in the 2024 presidential campaign. According to New York Times, Siena College Poll, as voters nationwide, have soared on his leadership, given him a meager 33% job approval, rating widespread concerns about the economy, and inflation have helped turn the national mood

decidedly, dark both on Mr. Biden and the trajectory of the nation, more than three quarters of registered voters see the United States moving in the wrong direction, a pervasive sense of pessimism that spans every corner the country every range and racial group city suburbs and rural rural areas as well as both political parties. Only 13% American voters said the nation was on the right track the lowest point in times polling since the depth of the financial crisis more than a decade ago.

What do you think about this when you hear this story from New York Times? Well, I mean, sometimes they actually get the story right, the New York Times. You might disagree with that, but the number one thing that Republicans, or the Democrats, should be hoping for in 2024 is that Trump runs. Because the only way the Democrats can still win in 2024 is if it's Trump. You might be saying, the hell are you talking about right now? Because if a desantis runs or someone with mass appeal, it's a cakewalk. But if Trump gets back in there and starts mud slinging again,

I don't think the people on the right fully understand. You might have a good grasp of this, just how much, even if it's against their own pocketbook and against their own interest, how nails on a chalkboard he is to their ears. Again, it might be counterintuitive while he was better for us. Trump gets on screen, gets on TV, and Democrats have a meltdown.

I'm willing to bet that at one point you had Trump deranged from syndrome. Did you not? I did, yeah. Okay. And half of America did. I mean, we had to, let me just go. I went to reheriver, half years. Luckily, they were very gorgeous women and things are okay now.

I'm a little more reasonable. But you fully understand just how much people on the left really, really can't stomach Trump. It's a guttural nails on a chalkboard when he gets America and people just like, you understand fully. So for me, I'm telling, putting this out there, I've never voted for a Republican for president of my life. I will gladly take around a Sanctus or someone who has those conservative agendas

just because I think Democrat, I had a conversation with a very high up Democratic fundraiser here on the DNC side. One of my best friends, I was like, you understand how fucked up the Democrats are doing these days. He's like, yeah, I'm totally with you. And I said, the Democrats are praying that Trump is the candidate in 2024.

No, it's not. Stop. 100%. Because DeSantis, DeSantis, you really believe that bullshit? 10,000%. You really believe that? Yes, that's it. Oh, really? So let me ask you question. Because you can Dess, the San Dess, you really believe that bullshit? 10,000 percent. You really believe that? That's not really, okay. So let me ask you question.

Because you can stomach Trump so you don't understand what I'm saying? Because I can set aside my emotions home. And you're one of two percent of the people they can do that. And you don't need everybody and more of America needs to learn to be like her and sit down and have a good time. She had Trump deranged my syndrome. She done it over it. But I don't.

But yeah, but how many other people have gotten over it? But no, no, by the way, a lot of people have gone over it. A lot of people have gone over it. Yeah. But you selective hearing want to believe that. Let me explain to you something for you to be thinking about. Okay. Let's take your argument of they want to Trump to run. Oh, really? Yeah. If they really wanted Trump to run, you wouldn't see shit with January 6th hearing. Zero.

If they really wanted Trump to run, you wouldn't see an article coming out saying, Iran is trying to assassinate President Trump. Oh my God, because the Democrats want him to run. If Democrats want a Trump to run, they would sit down and say, Prodigy for the guys, enough would generate,

let this guy run, he's gonna lose. Let this guy run, he's gonna lose. Do you see Republicans worried about Hillary Clinton running? Republicans are hoping Hillary Clinton running. They're not even getting in or wait. Have you heard Republicans talking, shed about Hillary? Because they're hoping. That's how you know, anytime they go after somebody, they're afraid that guy's gonna run, and you're smart enough and wise enough to know the difference but select the hearing no gets you to say well no because the Democrats are hoping he runs I'm not you're not you're taking half of my argument. No, no, no, you have to be better than that. I'm saying do they want Trump? Yeah. No, do they are they

rooting for Trump? Yeah. No, but they're saying they're looking at the field. They're saying if Biden is is the guy, which I don't think he will be, who do we have a better chance against young vibrant, wrong distancer as to be wiser than that strategic and how much you just made? You don't think that Ron DeSantis has a better chance of beating a Democrat than Trump? I think Ron Bergen, he has a better chance of beating anybody on the left right now. It doesn't matter who it is. The point I'm trying to make to you is just think about the logic of what you're saying right now. Okay, you know the saying is Sunsu says if an enemy is falling don't get in his way. Get out of his way. Let him fall. Okay, it's strategic. No problem. If they're really afraid of Trump falling, why do they keep getting in his way? They're afraid. They're afraid of this guy. Whether it's true or not, it's here.

I don't think Trump's a strategy going after mosque and doing all this. I don't, I don't, you know, you heard what I said on the guy, you know, a couple of people on Twitter came after me saying, what happened to you? You had our back and you were Trump. I said, I've never been a Trump, and I anti-Trump, a pro-diss, I've been an economy guy with policies that allows us to be left alone in the same people that were so ecstatic about this guy who's going to become a president to unify America is the reason why we're experiencing what we're experiencing right now. So, I understand the idea of protecting your vote because it sucks when you lose.

I understand it to have to protect that I still made the right decision because I would have never voted. I get it. The ego is a hard thing. We all have it. Totally understand that. But the premise behind the fact that

oh, the Democrats are hoping for me. Get over it, that part. Let me just, my last but. God, God, Pat. And I want to get your opinion. Here we go. Respect. No, I'm not No, I don't think you understand I generally don't how disgusted I understand strategy. No, no, no, no, here we go. How disgusted

half of America feels when they see him speak. I don't think you fully get I run an insurance company with 27,000 agents and 49 states who talk to these people every day. I don't think you fully get I run an insurance company with 27,000 agents and 49 states who talk to these people Everyday I don't think you understand that I'm around these guys constantly from every state and you're only a Florida. I'm in every state Okay, I'm not so what I'm trying to tell you is I hear their last week We're doing something at the office and I said Hillary Clinton is a sweetheart to one of the ladies said she is a sweetheart I'm in the street talking. I know I'm I have to be there. I have to win the guys this vote or else you don't go you don't have a business that you're growing America's bigger than New York City America's bigger than Miami. Okay, America is America. You got 50 states

You're dealing with and a lot of them it doesn't need to be a hundred percent of them It just needs to be five to ten percent of them disagree with you. It's ten thousand people in the Midwest That's who controls our country. That's the point. Yeah, and they're sick of it Not not out of by the way Whether you gonna vlog on or something Do do what you got to do a lot of people are very protective of who they voted because they hate being wrong I'm not it's 0% about me. I'm talking about 50% of the country that when Trump speaks Yeah, it's nails on a chalkboard to them for who gives a fuck who I vote because because when Joe Biden speaks

It's freaking awesome No, because when he speaks they go to sleep. I want to get up and go yeah You've had Trump's arrangement syndrome. You know exactly what I'm talking. Yeah, but yeah I want to get up and go. Yeah, you've been from the arrangement syndrome. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah, but just a really fast defend, I'm sorry to cut you off, but I think the reason that Pat they're doing the January 6th talking to you just so that if he does, they can just say threat to democracy.

They can use those. Exactly. Exactly. And I'm kind of, I'm kind of with Adam in the sense that, questions are you guys all? Do you think the, the, the Santas would win over Trump if they both find if they're both running that's a different conversation. Well I'm saying who would because the left is going to have a field day with threat to democracy.

They're going to still talk about Russia. They're going to bring in all the other old shit that they're going to jam it on there. They have nothing to really talk about. Strategy the right strategy if you're not intimidated of somebody and you want that person to run they have nothing to really talk about. Strategy, the right strategy, if you're not intimidated of somebody and you want that person to run, get the hell out of their way. That's strategy. Okay, get out of there, let them keep talking shit about you.

You know, how many times have you heard me on camera talk shit about former colleagues or people that we did business with? How many times have you heard of me? Zero. How many times? Cause it's not my style. I don't do it. Even if they do it and they do it all the time, you you heard of this? Zero. Because it's not my style. I don't do it. Even if they do it and they do it all the time,

you don't see me getting up there and it's not my style. Okay? Because the market then gets to decide, listen, the only story I have or the other step, that doesn't get up and it takes all the shit. No problem. Because eventually the market's gonna sit there and say, damn, okay, I didn't know that.

No problem. Get the hell out of the way, let the market decide. Because you're not worried about it They're so worried about Trump I agree if you're not let them loose, but please I want to hear a thought. Yeah, please Well, I was gonna ask you who if you could like if who would you like to see running in 2024? I'm both an each party like who would you pick if you could pick not Trump and not Biden I think it's time for a fr a fret I would take a DeSantis and whoever the left kind of plugs out of thin air yeah who would you I mean I've been saying this for five fucking years Joe Manchin is America. He ain't run it totally

he's doesn't I've been saying like who told you about Joe Manchin three years how many times I have to give you thank you I'm but I'm saying like any Democrat. I'm a person no matter what if you watch the show that I do on this side of the room I'm the type of person to sit sound with this type of person with this type of philosophy and an exact type of different type of law I say guys, let's figure something out Let's see how we could all work together because more than a Republican or Democrat. I'm an American I like I travel the world. I don't like going around the world and being like, stupid American, I'm like, I'm a fucking American, we up in this thing.

I like when America has a good stature in the world and then you can be proud to be an American. One of the last, whether it's Biden or Trump, it's not exactly America's got a good reputation throughout the world. So I would love to have someone, whoever it is, that has a 60% approval rating in America. And it's not buying and it's not Trump. I'm sorry.

So there you go. It's very interesting. How about yourself? Well, I mean, I think the debate you guys are having is so fascinating. Something I've noticed is that, which it's kind of could be support for either side. Democrats who don't understand the extent to which Republicans right now are ambivalent about Trump,

especially with the specter of DeSantis rising. In their mind, because they have created out of Trump this kind of bogeyman who's so all-encompassing, they cannot see the polling that's showing that DeSantis is already neck and neck with him and they haven't even declared. And I know a lot of Democrats who would vote for DeSantis, I think he has about 60% approval here in the state, right? And this is my entire point. So everything we've been talking about.

Yeah, so I think that the Democrats have a real blindness when it comes to what's happening on the Republican side. So, I think actually maybe that does support Pat's point a little bit, that they don't think they can run against them. I think they're doing January 6th because they are convinced he would beat Biden. And I think they're wrong about that. I mean, actually, I don't think I agree with you. Biden is not, I don't think Biden's going to run. But I cannot see how with these numbers,

DeSantis doesn't blow Trump out of the water. And I think to the extent that Trump doesn't like to lose, it's possible he doesn't even run. If DeSantis can get, you know, past, I don't know, 35, 40%, 50%, right? And people are, you know, Trump's down in the 30s. I just think that it's, I'm shocked to see how, not surprised, but it is'm shocked to see how, not surprised, but

it is astounding to see how, are the numbers your quality, like it's a difference in a Republican primary in a national electorate, right? Well, so now it reput, when you pull up Republicans, as a much better broad appeal to Americans, then Trump does. But I don't know what the Republican base look for. Okay. In in in in polls of Republican primary voters, they're now neck and neck. And no and no one's declared. I mean, the idea of a dissentist has a such a national profile to compete with a former president. It's crazy. It's crazy. And I think it speaks volumes to how he's

governed, which is why do you think Republicans feel that way about thectus when they've been so all about Trump for the past five years? I do think January, this January six hearings have heard him. I do think that. And I think more than that, he's heard himself, you know, Trump, if you really watched, if you watched his speeches, you watched his his rallies in 2016, in 2020, he talked over and over and over again about NAFTA, about jobs, about the economy. And of course, yeah, he'd throw in the red meat for the press, actually. Some quasi-racist comments so that they'd make sure that the press would cover it, because they would only cover it if he did that.

But he was talking about the economy and jobs he was saying to the working class, they have stolen everything from you. Now, since 2020, all he talks about is himself. They've stolen everything from me. That is the difference. And that's very, very unattractive. OK. It's very unattractive. And somebody behind closed doors

has to give him the feedback to realize people don't like that approach, okay? Let people tell you, let other people say you're doing a great job, you shouldn't constantly brag about you. Every once in a while it's okay to be self-promotion, shameless all that, sublimin'. There's a lot of guys on Instagram and Twitter that TikTok that are blown up because they're great

at shameless self-promotion, fine. It's a little bit of that as necessary. We know who some of these guys are, but he's at a point right now that he may be losing certain people as well. My argument wasn't about that you're wrong. My argument is the fact that your premise of Democrats are hoping for him to run is wrong.

They're not hoping for him to run. Because if they did, they wouldn't have done what they're doing. Can I just qualify my point? Yeah. They're hoping that it's him as the candidate over the Santa, over the Santa's. Okay, because of, what are they gonna say about the Santa?

Nothing. Okay, he doesn't like seeing the word gay. Check this out. Okay, this is from Vegas. It's so much ammo against Trump. This is Vegas in Saturday.com, 2024 election betting gods. Trump's at the top, plus 275. Then it's the Sanctus.

Guys, that is very close. Yeah, very close. Biden 550, I cannot believe Kamala is sport. Honestly, I can't believe she's sport. I don't think she stands a chance. Zero. Pents, then Buduchich, then Haley, the Michelle Obama, then Warren, then Tucker,

and the rest of the four. Tucker, by the way, in that, I just want to get your opinion because I'll give you my answer. In that, what is the most interesting storyline? Oh, that's a great question. I do just want to say one thing on the previous point, to me, it is tragic what Trump is doing now because his legacy is so strong. I think even somebody on the left can say, like the things he did for the country before the pandemic,

there was so much there to run on, to brag about. And he's just, he's squandered the whole thing over this, this nonsense. And I find that to be a little bit tragic. You're giving me side eye because you're like, what are you doing for those car? No, I'm not saying that. They're that. You have to be very careful in life. Okay, very careful.

I've had a lot of enemies over the years. I had a lunch a few weeks ago with one of my biggest enemies in business. Okay, and we had lunch and we sat down. It was an incredible lunch we had together. Okay, to the point where the at the end, the hug was like a brotherly hug. And listen, we wanted to kill each other. Okay. This is one of your enemies. You're saying, you don't need to go any deeper than that because so this is somebody that's an enemy in business. Okay. You have to be very

careful to not hate or be envious. And you have to be able to logically give credit what credits do, even if I'm not a LeBron James fan at all, I give him tremendous credit, what he did, with all the odds being against him to become who he is today, as a father, as a leader to his family, tremendous credit. I don't agree with what he's saying, even saying to is today, as a father, as a leader to his family. Tremendous credit.

I don't agree with what he's saying, even saying to Griner, if I was, or I don't know if I'd come back to America, all the stuff that he does, I don't support any of that, I think too much bitching, but I support the fact that he's done what he's done. So you got to be careful because for somebody to become a billionaire, win on TV, and to become a president, name me one person that's done that, including Reagan. He's never done that. So his legacy, he's one of a kind. Just so you may, he's going to be one of the most controversial, most written about figures in the history of America, but he's one of a kind.

Only one person ever has become a billionaire, one on TV and become a president, only one no person has ever done that. Not 50, he ain't one in five, he's in one of one, okay? Hate him, love him, trash him, do whatever you can, name me one other person that's done that you can't do that. So, but if you look at this list, I would love to do a fundraiser at my house, I would do it for number one. I would do for number two.

I don't think three and four are running. I would do a fundraiser for number six. Pete, I would do fundraiser for Obama. Wait, you do Pete, but not Pence? I, Pence, fine. I just don't think Pence has a chance. I just don't think Pence has a chance. I think Pete could have a chance.

I think Michelle definitely, I don't think what's, is that Warren? I think Bernie's too old. I think I would do fundraiser and bring people to ask real questions. I've been part of these fundraisers before and it's not like, hey, what's up? Can we take a picture?

It's not like, hey, can I get a picture to post on Instagram? No, it's like, hey, so tell me what do you think about this stuff? Why are you doing this? How do you handle a situation? I want to be able to ask a few questions. I want to be able to ask Michelle a couple questions. And where she's at? Because there's a difference between

Michelle and Barack and 04, one-term senators who are broke to Michelle and Barack Obama, today who are worth a few hundred million dollars, there's a different perspective for business. So I'd love to speak to Michelle about that, and see, hey, let's do fundraiser and ask some questions, and I'll bring some people that are from both sides of the aisle, and we'll raise whatever the amount is,

25 bucks ahead, 25, I don't know what their dollar amount is, but I would love to do that, to see both sides of the aisle, okay, to do that. So for me, it's not I'm a Trump guy, I'm a Decentis guy, I'm a, you know, who's your guy, mansion, yesterday I tweeted something about mansion, and I said yesterday about mansion, I said Joe mansion, I gotta read this to you because it's so ironic

that you're talking about him today. And this was my tweet yesterday. I said Joe mention, someone give Joe mention a medal of honor. Okay. I think at the end of the day, this guy's going to get a lot more credit to have kept America together during the because shit could be a lot worse if there was not a mansion today. But that's yeah. So, but I think you're the exception and I don't do this often, but I'm gonna give credit to Adam here. American politics, the presidential race, is very much a popularity contest.

That's all it is. People don't care about policies. You go ask the average American what policies of Trump they like, they can't give you an answer. And what I think is very interesting here is that nowhere on this list is Gavin Newsom. I think it's fairly obvious Gavin Newsom's gonna be the candidate.

I think that's who they want. I think that's who they're gonna push. I think that's who they're gonna have. I think that's who they're gonna have. People don't like Kamala. People think Pete's a joke. I'm gonna see Gavin. Elizabeth Warren is, I think people see through her. Bernie, the party won't let Bernie win.

I think it's obvious Newsom's gonna be the candidate. Donald Trump cannot beat Gavin Newsom. Andrew Cormol's, I don't have. You don't think Trump can beat Gavin Newsom? Absolutely not. I think people aren't gonna care about what happened in California. I think people are gonna look, Gavansoo's him purely on his looks and the way he speaks.

I do not think. He was just a little bit. I don't think people care about politics. Did you see the video of him walking on his list? He's not. He just had his wife say, and I push him. Making his rounds on the media.

All the media saying. He is the Justin Trudeau of America. Because he would be. Gavansoo's the Justin Trudeau of America. America by the way, you don't think he can get it I think Adam just nailed it. Oh, no, but in a bad way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you saw what Joe Totally any of these guys don't Trump yeah, I'm telling you and Adam's right the left's biggest fears that Rhonda Santa's runs I agree. I think you make it the point Which I'm gonna have six by the way, but I stole up for a little bit

This is the storyline that I want to write but I don't think the left realizes it that that's what I think is somewhere between the two of you You're right that you know, they should want Trump to win, but they don't realize it because orange man bad. Like they can't, they're still deranged. So hard to hate someone for that long. And then be like, go back to the first 10 minutes of the podcast. But by the way, you're an exception. Most people aren't gonna do the research. But then, but be careful in the work of taking that angle, guys.

Be careful taking that angle, because if you take that angle, what you're trying to say is the American voter is lazy. That's what you're saying. We just got that. We're just very careful because if Tyler's saying that's his position, you know, the other way to the top. Yeah. So you're saying the American voters lazy. We discussed this at the beginning, but by the way, you know who is very interesting because he had he's been he's just been kind of quiet Who but he's gonna be there it and he's not scared is number one two three four five

16 hundred dollar that is Mike Pence all pants if you see what's going on He's going after there are what is it called like what they're doing when you like fight a war but But you're not proxy proxy war, so right now they're doing when you like fight a war, but, uh, but you're not proxy, proxy war. So right now they're having a proxy war in the state of Wyoming. Mike Pence is supporting Liz Cheney. Yep. January 6th, uh, insurrection, uh, committee and Donald Trump is supporting the lady who kind of looks like a dude in my opinion.

He's an elite, the lady. Definitely big time. And they're fighting these proxy wars. They did the same thing in Georgia where Pence supported the governor who ended up winning and Trump supported his, Trump and Pence. They got some serious beef going on.

Big time. And Pence was this. This was a movie, there would be like, you know what I mean, the confrontation. And Pence was the greatest boot liquor of all time. Big time. He was Trump could do no wrong. And then on January 6th, when he almost got hung,

he hung him out to dry. And now Pence wants a little reward. I was on Rubin podcast a couple of days ago. Shout out to Dave Rubin when you guys go play your best part of the podcast. Dave Rubin, when we play it, it's gonna happen there. But I was on his podcast and he said, so what would be like a creative candidate mix?

I said, DeSantis Ivanka Trump would be very interesting. Okay. DeSantis as the president, as the candidate and even as the VP. You know why? Because the Trump camp will say at least there is a Trump there. And the Democrat camp that is not willing to vote for Donald, but they're willing to vote for Ivanka, because they're comfortable with her. That's a very creative way of doing things. It's distance enough and close enough where the Democrat who are saying,

I will not vote for Trump, but I think they'll vote for the Sentus and Trump. It's a creative way now for that to happen, guys, I don't think DeSantis is gonna pick her as a VP. I think DeSantis is a guy that plays a very safe. Yeah, yeah, Tim Scott is for sure gonna be his VP. Yeah, he's gonna go with you guys. Tim Scott?

Yeah, my deal. DeSantis? I don't know. And he said the VP's for sure, but who? He'd be a great pick. Pat, what do you think Trump's VP pick would be? If it just happened right now, who would it be? I just haven't heard his name thrown out there that much. Yeah, that's a question. What do you think Trump's VP pick would be? If it just happened right now, who would it be? I just haven't heard his name thrown out there that much.

Yeah, that's a question. What do you think Trump's VP pick would be? If right now it happened right now. Can I tell you who I think it's gonna be? Yeah. Someone that's not on this list. I think so too. I think so.

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You talking AFCFC NFC. It's gonna be so freaking nasty. I can't wait. And that and nasty is great for TV. Big Friday. I'm saying so. We can ask you next couple of years. The question is nasty good for America. I want what's good for America. No, but CNN for CNN and them to come back out of the freaking grave. They need that. They need this. Let's go to come other stores. I have heard this come up twice now that

voters are lazy and I want to address this. Why do you think Mark Zuckerberg dumped 150 or whatever? How many hundreds of millions of dollars into a get out the vote campaign pushing everybody to vote. Go vote, go vote, go vote, go vote, go vote, go vote, because people don't do their research. They vote for who they're told to vote for. I don't think they have a big opinion. I think that's exactly why I think that's right. I don't think voters are lazy. I don't think politics is the top of it.

But wait a minute, let's unpack that, my friend Tyler here. So I think majority are lazy, but the minority is gonna determine the next president. And if you got a million people who flipped, you don't need everybody. That's a million people who flipped. That's the truth. A million who flipped, okay? It's Trump good at making allies,

what's his resume show, in him creating allies? Who's fired more people on his own administration than him? I don't know a lot of people. Okay, so that TV show was not a show. That's him. Okay, so if he's going to go, a person needs to get in there to give that side of marketing storytelling. If he continues with this part about, you know, it's not fair, it's not fair, it's not fair, he's got three to six months to make changes. I think three to six months later, it's going to be

who's going to be pushed. I think, as of right now, I actually agree with the way it is today. I think this thing can flip in six to 12 months and it can flip very quickly. In what regard, how can I flip it? A flip meaning, if he goes, people are not inspired by feel sorry for me. People are not inspired by, it's not fair. That's not an inspirational message.

People are not inspired by an entitled message. And his messaging is, I deserve to be there right now. It's just listen, it's not attractive. Go fight and win it again and change your approach like now when people are struggling so much with like inflation with like basic basic needs They could both think that he that he won and it was unfair and feel like why are you why is he not feeling sorry for me? Why am I being asked to expend pity on this person who's a millionaire and I can't afford to fill up my car with gas? I think that that's the really important.

This is like the easiest time for him to just say, I have nothing to say. This is all I think I will tell you. A month before COVID, here was the economy before Africa. And say nothing else. Just do that and show that. The PowerPoint of every speech he would give, if I was his campaign manager the next three, six, 12 months, I'm gonna say to following.

Look, let's move on with what happened with 2016, 2020 election. Forget about it. Let's move on with my conflicts with Pence. Let's move on with all that stuff. This is all I will tell you. This is me pre-COVID, what America was like. This is you today.

How do you feel about it? How are you being impacted by it? Forget about if you don't like me because I'm pompous and I'm loud and I'm this. I'm from New York. This is my DNA. If you've been in the real estate world and you know how it is to compete,

this is how you have to be to compete. I've been like this for 77, 78 years. It's what's helped me get here. This is how I got here. But forget about set aside your emotions. You don't like me. Okay, for me being allowed. How do you feel about this? You know, math, you don't need to know science to see this. What do you like? Do you like this or do you like this? When I was in, what did you hear about ISIS? What did you hear about this? What did you hear about that? What happened here? Our administration did a better job with this. There's this not.

You want this continue if you don't, we're coming back. And if you want this, if he took that approach, a lot of the people that would hate him, they would go like this. I like this, God, I'm not, I'm a, I gotta give him credit. Yeah, be nice. He's showing, I gotta give him credit.

If he can't get out of his own way, he's good. You got six months. By the way, you only have six months. You only have six months to flip that. I want to hear two other stories before we wrap, but one of them is a newsweek story. I gotta give you credit to newsweek

since you're part of the newsweek. Vladimir Putin to be called Ruler of Russia. Under new proposal, a pro-Cremlin party is calling for Vladimir Putin to be referred to as the Russia. Russia new proposal, a pro-Kremlin party is calling for Vladimir Putin to be referred to as the Russia. Russia's rule rather than a Russia president in order to move away from job description, derived from a foreign language, the national liberal Democratic Party, proposed replacing the term president with Bavital, which means ruler because the term president has not yet taken root completely in Russia ran

state-run outlet to RIA Novosthi reported Dell DPR said that the using of the term president has always been embarrassed embarrassed us the party argued in its proposal that the term was first used at the end of 18th century in the US and much later it spread throughout the world What would it since this is news week, what's this all about with ruler? There it is. How do you feel about this? All right, I feel about this the way I feel

about a lot of the coverage of Putin, which is that, you know, the guy is a thug, the guy is a murderer, he has, you know, Russia is not a real democracy, but at the same time, I feel like there's a kind of unhealthy obsession and a need to make him much bigger than he is in the media and in American politics. And I think that that is connected to Trump. I mean, this is a new thing in American politics.

I think our greatest adversary is China. And I don't understand why we haven't been trying to make alliances with Russia, which was more democratic before we took this adversarial approach. You know, in alliance against China, which is actually our greatest adversary, I think Russia is like, yeah, the war in Ukraine is horrible. It's devastating, but at the same time, that doesn't make Russia more than it is, which is essentially a petro state.

And we've screwed over our own working class and Americans, an American's pocketbooks and their ability to achieve a middle class life by taking a side too strongly in this conflict. So that's how I see it. You know, I'm not, this is not praise for Putin. He's a thug in a murderer. The war in Ukraine was absolutely unjustifiable, but at the same time, you know, we have a lot of culpability there.

We have not done the most that we could to make sure that things did not end up here. And I think that we've actually screwed ourselves over when it comes to fighting China, which is a much bigger threat. Well, you check, check, check everything you said. I totally agree with. You hit the nail on the head. I think the famous quote is Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country. Yeah. And you called it a petrol state. I'll never forget the conversation we had with the great director Oliver Stone here.

And I was like, who does Putin want to be? You know, Stalin, Lenin, he goes, no, no, no, no, you got to go further back. And he said he wants to be Peter the Great. And now this just kind of confirms all that, where he wants to be called the ruler. The president is no longer. So in my mind, he's more of a evon the terrible than Peter the Great.

But this is, and then the last point is we need to refocus our agenda away from the Russia nonsense and focus more on China. We talk about, that's our biggest adversary, but for 50 years, it was Russia. And we've slowly seen China become the number one potentially, number two country in the world right now behind the US. I think they're set to take us over GDP wise by what, 2030. And that's where our focus needs to shift. So I'm not under I'm not completely sure why we're so focused on Russia It's we can maybe can't just shake it from our DNA from the last 50 years I don't know listen to to make it in the Russian politics for as long as this guy's made it

He's not a dummy. He's doing this for a reason From the outside you may sit there and say what a terrible timing to do this because you're allowing the world to say look how Egotistical you are to be called a ruler. There's a motive behind it. The world's gonna find out in about two to four weeks on the real reason why they wanna make this transition. Who knows what the reasoning is? But it doesn't show me that it's progressive.

It shows me that it's kind of using this crisis as a way to go backwards to give even more control to him than going in the direction where the people are really in charge of that country. It's just saying, no, you're right, they're not in charge of country. But look, at the end of the day, the last two years, we've definitely not worked on strengthening this relationship at all. So we did not get closer to our enemy to calm them down.

We've actually screwed this thing up and we're spending too much time high-fiving and what do you call it? Fist bumping guys from Saudi Arabia. Hey, what's up, dog? Hey, yeah, I know you guys killed that one journal. It's all good, don't worry about how you're doing. It's a very weird foreign policy approach

that we're taking. It's quite embarrassing if you think about it to the world and how they're viewing us. I want to wrap up with this one story and then we'll go into the Jimbo thing. I don't know if we have time for it, but I'm going to do it anyway. So Socialist Exodus and Columbia,

A Socialist Exodus and Columbia, invested in halted, investments halted and businessmen flee to Miami. After left, we candidate Gustavo Petro Triumph in the second round of Columbia's presidential election on June 19th, businessmen, across the country began shifting their savings into dollars and halted their investment plans. Instead, entrepreneurs are looking to Miami or Panama to expand their businesses to survive

the impending economic chaos. Petro, a former gorilla, came to the elections proposing socialist and populist proposals such as the banning of hydrocarbons and fracking massive taxes and takeovers of unproductive lands which were raised under the euphemism of democratization of properties all these measures resurrect in Colombia as the ghost of Chavismo and leftist governments in Latin America which have left economic crisis in their countries. Thoughts. Well, to me, I'm going to think about this from like a domestic point of view.

You want to know why Hispanic voters are flocking to their Republican Party. It's because of stuff like this. The reason that minorities are increasingly seeing a future for themselves in the Republican Party instead of the Democratic Party is because they know what authoritarian looks like, authoritarianism looks like they know what socialism looks like in practice. And when things like this happen, when they look to the South America,

look to Central America and they see the things that their parents told them about, their answers just told them about, it really makes them, I think, feel some type away about Democrats who are speaking in the same kind of language as these people that their families fled to come to the greatest nation on earth. Check out this article by the way, Tyler just pulled up.

Get your money out now. Miami brokers target Colombian buyers after leftist election. What a great strategy by the way. Adam, you got thoughts on that? No, I just sent Tyler that article because, look, I'm born and raised in Miami, I have a lot of Colombian Venezuelan, Brazilian, Argentinian friends, and I had a conversation with a Colombian friend of mine recently,

and he says, every night, wealthy, and even the not so wealthy Colombian, sit down and they talk about their plan B. Every night, they sit down and they say plan B is when shit hits the fan here, and it's happening is we move to Miami. And someone who lives in Miami, that is a fan of the Colombian women, they're nice people, come on down. But a lot of real estate brokers in Miami, they're exactly what they're saying, they say, get your money out now and take your assets and come live in Miami. And that's exactly what's happened. I made one last note

Well, you know you guys are talking stuff and it's just that I think I'm on Marxist not because of but yes I think I'm switching over because how how I'll don't push you as a as a as a guest She's amazing. She's awesome It's great to have you on I want to wrap this up with a Message for some of you guys with this picture up here. That's my dog, the one to the right, Jimbo. Jimbo.

Jimbo has been missing for two days now, okay? We went out to dinner on Saturday night with the kids. We came back, both of them got out. Kuchy to the left was found. Jimbo to the right was not found. And that same night I got on Jetsky, I went around the community to see if he fell in the water because at one time he fell, I went and got him, not there.

And we had the security camera to see if he got out of the community. This is North Forlotted Del area he did not. So if anybody sees that dog, Jimbo, on the color is my phone number. You should be able to get a hold of me. And if you do, you're in a North-Fore Lauderdale area, I'm gonna give a finder's fee of $5,000. If you do find Jimbo, this guy's been my best buddy since I started the insurance company.

13 years ago, they're pretty much our first kids before we had kids. I would love to see this guy come back. The kids are not yet, I love my oldest San Tico, still being very optimistic, saying he's gonna come, he's gonna come and it's great seeing their attitudes on how they're handling this, we're going through this because if you have a dog, you know what it is to have a dog.

So again, if you know anybody in North Fort Lauderdale area, his name is Jimbo, he looks like that, 5,000 dollar finders fee, you can either send us an email in foiadvaitamen.com or text me on the number that's on his collar Jimbo Norte Fort Lauderdale area. Thanks for listening guys Tyler go ahead you have a big think I'm gonna tonight. What's that? Oh, yeah tonight I'm doing a real estate bubble webinar if you haven't yet signed up There's 20,000 people that have already registered for it

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