PBD Podcast - Tom Ellsworth (Biz Doc) | PBD Podcast | EP 62

Episode Date: May 20, 2021

Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, and, guest Tom Ellsworth sit down to talk about topics ranging from Bitcoin, Bank Of America raising minimum wage, UFOs and much more!  Watch the full episode: https://youtu.be/JoEmTy7ZOe4 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

We're officially live. Okay, episode number 62. Whoa. Whoa. How are we doing? Tom. Good morning, friends. We are allowed at the energy up in here. Let's get the energy up in here. Let's get the energy up in here. Let's go get it started.

No, no, no, no, no. Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, change it up. Stick to the case studies, bro. No comedy, no singing. Stay in the lane. Last night, we had the last two days we're bored meeting days. So we had a bunch of people in town where having a meeting is going back and forth. Yes, sir

Last time we get back to the house. It's late 10 o'clock. We're sitting there. I'm like let me watch this Few minutes of this Lakers golden Celtics game. I'm thinking I'll watch a couple quarters and I'm gonna go You just said Celtics game. Go. Lakers golden state I'll let you up. Korea against well East Coast. I'll later on, I'll let you up. I'll let you up. I'll let you up. I'll let you up. I'll let you up. I'll let you up. I'll let you up.

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You got at least give 12 points in a game like this. I'm having this is contract remember didn't you sign a giant? The moment he did his field goal percentage free throw percentage three point percentage everything dropped Meaning he just said I'm a great different there and that's all it is anyways. He's got to bring more to the table I think so man I think if you're gonna win two points, two points, two points. Two points. Come on, homie.

Yeah, two points. So step one, sign a big mega-year contract. Step two. Game of a practice. Game 15 pounds, step three. Stop working the cardio. You know, you're getting the pounds. Step four, forget about shooting.

Step five, cash those checks. Here's crazy thing. He played light out defense. Lights out defense. I mean, the guy was ridiculous last night lights out defense lights out defense. I mean the guy was Ridiculous last night in the way he played defense and But man if he would have scored five points, it would have been over time if it would have scored six points Yeah, two points they would have won they would have won the game. So that's that has to be a conversation

That's cousin with the coaches drama. You got to shoot But I don't usually the walk off and to have time conversations Yeah, he's a beast. They're God. And it was about what just so you know last night, Tom, for the first time in his life, watched the Ricky J. Jervais message at the Golden Globes. Yeah. Was this first time he watched? He hadn't seen it yet. Would you think that I thought it was shocking that one guy is up there speaking truth and poking. So it was mixing it up. We got away with it. It was a lasagna of truth, poke, truth, poke, truth, poke.

And everybody was really nervous laughing about it. Because some of the meat. Luzania, veggie, lasagna, where'd he go? I'd know, no, this was all meat. He was heading for heart. He was heading for heart. This is the speech where he said, get up there. Thank you, agent.

Thank you, God. God's God. Keep it moving. Yeah, he picked on Apple and this where he looks at Leonardo de Caprio and he said, hey, you know, we got a problem here. If this thing goes four hours by the end of it, you know, Leonardo de Caprio's date will be too old for him. Ooh.

And so that's an easy joke with Leo. Yeah, but that's one of those, you know, poking the heart that you're not supposed to do in Hollywood. And then the rest of it, yeah, I, he was really good. He looks at Tim Cook. He says, Apple, do not lecture us on human rights, you eat your sweat shops. Don't walk up here and say thank you, people,

thank you, my God, and everything. Just shut up and take your reward and sit down. And that one I thought was, wow, that was like right for the heart. I just thought of something. He's on the troll list, but like a professional troll. Oh, you know what I'm saying? He's like a likable troll.

By the way, somebody said yesterday, he says you guys forgot to tell about 50 cents as a troll. These are trolls, huh? Likeable 50 cents a day. There's like a couple of trolls and there's unlike a troll. Oh, you know, he's like a likable troll. I would by the way, somebody said yesterday he says you guys forgot to talk about 50 cents as a troll. These are trolls. Likeable. 50 cents. Likeable. There's like a lot of trolls and there's unlike 50 cents a troll and yesterday, after the conversation we had we talked about Jake Paul and Takashi. Yeah. There's food between the two trolls. Fine. So there's underbred each other. Isn't 20% of our rap lyrics trolling in some way. Tom question for you. Why do you like to catch his music so much? Yeah, why is it like every time I'm in a car with your listen to it, what is the lyrics?

Is it the beat? Is it family friendly? Is it stuff you listen to? You live in the church? Why do you like to catch his music so much? What I love about it is the melodic themes wrapped around the Texas blues and it just works. Yeah, that's it.

That's it. That makes a lot of sense. Okay, so a lot's happened the last 40-dhours. Yes, a lot has happened the last 40-dhours. Too much may happen. I got a haircut, you know, Adam got a haircut, right? Yeah, well we got to pay some different prices when I understand. Here we go, there we go.

I need a haircut. I go to get a haircut from this guy, love this guy, great guy. I had Rappatoni make a video to send to him for me to go I need a haircut. So I go to get a haircut from this guy. Love this guy. Great guy. I had Rappatoni make a video to send to him for me to go to get a haircut. And the time comes to pay $72.10. I'm like 72 bucks for a haircut. Not tip.

What was it? It's 72. It's a 70 bucks plus $3 for the fee. So three times $72.10. So $70. I'm not gonna care the two. And I'm not gonna care if I can respect the $72. There's $72 for a haircut. That's a 10 cents for the haircut. All right. By the way the two, and I'm not gonna care. I'm not gonna care the two dollars. $72 for a haircut.

$72 for a haircut. $10 for a haircut. All right. By the way, here's the first thing I thought about when I left. And we talked about it after it says, why do you have that reaction to it? I said, look, I've never paid $72 and 10 cents for a haircut. And I've had a lot of great haircuts.

Tell me how you determine your pricing. He says, well, you had an appointment with me. And by the way, this guy's a diehard by a great guy, sweet heart of a guy. You know, we had the other day, we went and met him nice guy. And he did a great job. Michael sent me a video, I sent it to him. I said 72, 10, not including Tipei says yes,

because it's appointment only. I said so, so let me look at the haircut. Everybody else was $30, $35, kids $20. Oh, so there's pricing on the wall. Pricings on the wall, but not the $72.10 and pricing. So I go all the way down on the bottom and says, if you have an appointment, it's $5 on top of whatever it is. So if it's $39.39.

$35.0. It's a promise, no problem. He said celebrity hair stylist nowadays is $72.0 in Tencent. By the way, you know what is crazy? He is a celebrity in the barber community. No joke. He's got massive followers. Well, he said celebrity haircuts.

That means because you're a celebrity? No, no, no. For him the hair stylers and barbers nowadays who have a follow-in Wow. They get these thousand dollar scissors, they get this equipment. You know what's the first thing I thought about? Here's the first thing I thought about. Every time I go to get a haircut I always ask myself Why do barbers do it? Because think about the math. 35 bucks. Let's just say you work out a place, 35 bucks. The owner takes what part of 35 bucks? I think like 50%. No, something.

I don't know. You get to pay a fee for a chair. Of course, that's the part. See, the owner takes 20 bucks, okay. Say you take 15 bucks, you keep 15 bucks of it because you got to pay the rent. So you get another $10 tip. That's $25 an hour.

25 bucks, it takes an hour to give a haircut. Assuming you give eight in a day, that's how much money in the day, $200, $200, since 20 days in a month is what? Four grand a month, four grand times 12 is what, 40 grand a year. So the fact that he got paid, $60, no, $48,000, you're a good barber makes.

A good barber makes. It's not a big money. I would think it's more than that. To do the math for me. I don't know, I just did. I just did the math. I don't need to duplicate it. So I thought it'd be more. So that's the point. Yeah. A barber at 35 bucks is only making 50 grand a year. So when he charged me 72-10, I went in the car and the first thing I said is, I'm actually happy prices are going up for barbers. No. Hell no. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why the fact that there is tears that people are willing

to pay this kind of money for somebody that does high quality hair. You do the math on the 70 to 10. How much does he keep on the 70 to 10? Take the tip 15 additional bucks so you do 20%. So thank you. Whoa, whoa. So it's 86 bucks.

Okay. Not to Caroline. To Caroline. So it's told what is going on. So it's 86 bucks. Out of the 86 he keeps 60. So he does eight haircuts in a day, that's what? 480.

Times 20 in a month is what? 10 grand a month. Not a hair stylist is making what? Six figures. Good for him. So, but even at $72 haircut, a great barber only makes six figures per year. Okay.

Think about that now. It worked when they want to work. They're not doing something. I don't know about that. It works when they want to work. They're not doing so. I don't know about that. Here's what I want to find out. Yeah, I don't know about it. There's a lot of jobs in America. How much do you pay for a haircut? I pay about 35 bucks.

35 bucks. Not here in Texas. Not complicated. I go, I go, uh, the most I've ever paid 30, 30 bucks. Yeah, okay. Most ever. Well, you're in Texas. Yeah.

In LA, I assume when you were living, you know, living in life in LA. Same girl cut my hair for 10 years. I would love to hear from our audience. Ladies and gentlemen, how much, for the guys obviously, because women are hard to... I actually want to know, what is the most you've ever paid for a haircut and give us the city and the state?

But I want to know just on average what they pay. What do you pay? What do you do? Who do you got? Well, it cuts himself. Yeah, not us. Save that money. It's usually, it's just kind of cut my hair.

It tells Mario, Mario, do this year, watches how to video on YouTube and everything. Every time I shoot them in the kitchen together. I mean, Mario, well, they, usually it's about 35 bucks for a haircut. It's about 71 celebrities. Dealist celebrities are about 25 bucks. So I pay about 25 bucks.

You're not a dealist celebrity. Yeah, dealist celebrity. Is this a person you're going back to? You got a regular. You're an, I swear to God, folks, if you were here on a daily basis, Adam's probably the biggest celebrity in our office. Yes or no, Adam's probably the biggest celebrity in our office. Yes or no, is he not the biggest celebrity in the office?

Employees are taking pictures with Adam. Is this like a regular now? You have a regular. Let's see here. Let's see here. I've noticed over time the show is getting better. I don't know if you've heard, but I'm kind of a big deal. Okay.

Okay. Armando Lapeda says 40 bucks, including beard. Can you tell us where, where, what city, what city and state? Well, Bertor Rodriguez said 60 bucks. I wanna know where it is. Did you say including beer? Beer, beer, 72 is too much. $40 from here, taxidated.

Including a beer? $30 including tip. Hancho, she's got 45 bucks, L.A. 50 bucks, Brian Solaris is the highest one so far. This one guy says 15 dogecoin. 15 dogecoin, that's what? That's a. Last we have it.

50 mobile, okay, we go. Adrian brand, brand again. $100 mobile, barber and DC. Fair enough. That's good to know the market price for mobile because you're driving, say you're taking a time. So it's an armored car if it's small. It's my Emmy Adrian said $100,

$70, Oakland, 75 in Nashville, $75, and 85 bucks in Connecticut. That makes him grin at you. What about my boy Roland? I like his vibe. He goes, my mom gives me a favorite. Wait a minute, 85 in Connecticut. Angel Cortez, 85 in Connecticut.

We have a friend in Greenwich that we need to give his name to. $50 Miami. And it's mobile. He'll come to you. Greg, I'm begging you, go to this guy that's $100.00, $85.00 and Connecticut, Adrian Benigan, $100.00. So you know what? Listen, there's some people that are $50.95

and Melbourne, Australia. And if you want them to fly out to use $3,000 for that haircut from Australia, what else we got? So listen, that... But Pontis has got summer deals. Yeah. $25.35, you know, $50 at home appointment in Santa Barbara, then he'll cast

the family cuts it. So you're looking at 50 bucks, 60 bucks, you know, you don't see a lot of 70. But I did the math yesterday, and here's what happened when we left. Here's his pat. Yeah, it's a great. I'm sitting there, he says pat, give us, give us some ideas.

Here, give us some wisdom, we got a big vision. Here's what I told them. Why were with them yesterday? Okay. And by the way, today we're gonna finish the podcast at 1030. So if you're with us, hit the thumbs up button. So we're gonna go around and subscribe. We gotta get a time on a flight and we'll be adding

we got appointments to run as well. Here's what I put he asked me at the end of his Pat. Give me some feedback. What do you think I should do? I said, okay. I said, do you want to be known as a great barber or do you want to be a known as a great businessman? What do you want to be known as a great barber, or do you want to be known as a great businessman? What do you want to be known as?

That's a great question. Yeah, he says, I want to kill it your profession or run a business. Yeah, because he says, I want to be known as a great businessman. I said, then you got to change your lens. He says, what do you mean? I said, so let me do something for you.

So I step out. I said, I want you to think I'm a celebrity barber, okay? And I'm in Bokka. I'm a celebrity barber in Miami. I'm a barber, okay? And I'm in Bokka. I'm a celebrity barber Miami. I'm a high premium like you. I'm in Bokka. I'm checking on my competition. I decide to come and get a haircut from you. I walk into your barber shop.

Everybody knows that they're sitting there. They're listening. I say, yes. So I open a door, I walk in. I said, if I'm a celebrity barber and I sit here from which lens am I looking the entire store here? He says, what do you mean? I said, if I'm a celebrity barber, I'm probably checking out your scissors.

I said, I'm probably looking at your $250 scissors. It's a $1,000 scissors. That's a great. I said, if I'm a celebrity barber, I'm watching how you do the fate. I'm watching how you talk to clients. I'm watching your style. I'm watching what products you use. I'm watching the kind of stuff that you have there. Do you do massage at the end? Do you have a washing at the end? Do you have beers?

But I'm watching the way you cut your hair from a celebrity barber? Because I'm watching your abilities, right? He says yes. I said, let me go outside and come back in. So I go outside and come back in. I said, I want you to know, the next person that's walking in is a businessman, okay? That everything he looks at is through the lens of a businessman. Very says fair. So I walk out, I come back and I sit. He says, while I'm sitting here, here's all I'm thinking about. Why are those three chairs open? He's losing money right there. That guy just did a haircut. I've been waiting here for 30 minutes to come to get a haircut. What's the price? $30. He gives them 20 bucks. He keeps in the 15 bucks here. It took him this long to do a haircut. Math, I'm doing how many haircuts in an hour,

traffic, cost, electricity, how much money did he spend, how much you do as chairs cost, each chair, how much is he spending, how much is he making, I'm doing a math, right? He said yes. He says, you don't have the lens of a business man. Your lens right now is a lens of a barber. If you want to scale your business, you got to change the lens and start looking at your business to scale, not looking at your business as, I'm selling $72. Because the $72.

You're making $100 grand a year. So if you got three, four of the barbers, you're making two grand a month off of these guys, you're really making what, 161, 7 years. That's not a million dollar business. That's a 160 net business. So the biggest challenge for some folks out there who are either the celebrity professional realtor or the celebrity professional loan officer,

the celebrity professional, whatever in any community, chiropractor, do you wanna be that? Or do you wanna be the one that has 40 chiropractor offices, 20 real estate offices, 30 mortgage offices. In order to do the other part, you gotta change your lens, simple as that.

Great guy, I gave him a book, he says, what do I need to do to get your back here? I said, I need you to read this book. You read it, the moment you finish it, tell me you finished the book, write a paper on it, I'll come back to get a second haircut. He boarded a book last night, so I gotta go back and get a haircut.

I think it's amazing that, number one, you walk into the, you're just there to get a haircut. So what I'm seeing here is you're identifying all the leaks and missed opportunities in his business. So we saw you just do this for those of 100 lucky few that were there at the SLS meeting, and now we're we just launched

the fact that we're doing the the vault that's going to be what September 1st. Yeah. These are the types of situations where you go into a barber shop and rather than I'll get my hair cut. Boom, now you're identifying the leaks. Boom, here's you know you got chairs open. Here's a book I need you to read. You just totally changes your life. But you know what's crazy. Here's what's crazy. Here's what's crazy. If you look at Tom, okay? If you look at Greg if you look at you if you look at me Sam everybody in this room here, right the 21-year-old Pat When he walked into the mall what lens did he have on what do you think it was looking just looking to buy?

I want to look cool. I'm just hanging out the 21 euro pen when you walked into the mall You weren't you were buying anything the 21 euro pad walking into the mall is only looking for tight jeans nice legs nice That's you're looking for checks. That's by only lands was that so it was the lands right? See I gave you a little more credit No, but I think too highly of me at the 21 you were on that didn't have a lot of priority So then you look at another person that goes in. So everything about everything we do, okay? A mother walks in to a place, okay?

And they look at the living room. A father walks into the living room, says, oh my God, look at the view, look how sick this is. Look at the hotel, look how sick the windows, a mother walks in and says, oh, look at the edges of that table. If the kid hits the head, yeah, we got it. That's the part, if we can change the lens, and says, oh, look at the edges of that table. If the kid hits that head, you know, we got to, that's the part. If we can change the lens and the lens changes,

by the way, half the battle with what we got in America today is we got some screwed up people with lenses. Correct. If we change the lens, we'd actually get along and have good discourse and good discussions and debates together. We have the wrong lenses on town. You know, it's really interesting about this in Pat, you and I were in LA and there was a really amazing haircutter. He was a celebrity guy. think it's name is Jose A bear you make someone be able to look look it up no nothing I'm just waiting on my tea okay go ahead I thought he's a celebrity I don't know I don't know I don't like to yeah we're gonna cancel the whole show that we just we just had the

secret go ahead Jose a bear I think it was his name yeah but he was a used to where I like a white cowboy hat and he had this huge brand. And what he did was he realized that having all these celebrity clients wasn't the path to making money. And my understanding was he used himself as the branded magnet and he hired really good stylist. And so he turned it into a business where he always had his chairs full and he brought

great people in that want to be associated with him and he was doing high-end celebrity and then a lot of wealthy people and Beverly Hills and I always had a lot of respect for that I said wow, he's kind of figured this out that he can only do so many haircuts But he's the magnet, you know, I'm saying he's the magnet and so you look at that You use your personality to draw into traffic. That's a business model, some guys are really good. No, that's exactly right. In this guy, I don't know, somebody can look it up,

but he was very successful in LA, and it was very well known. People would go from the valley from Chatsworth down there. How did he spell his last name? It was, I can say it, I'm probably butchering, but it was Jose Abert, like HEB, ERT, something like that. But yeah, Cal Boy Hat, he had long hair. He was good.

He was very slick, but that's it. So if you're in LA, go check out Jose out Jose. You have a haircut. He may be retired by now. But you know, was that like 40 years ago, 30 years ago? No, it's back when I was high school, 72 years ago. So, years ago. Okay. So Bitcoin had a rough week. I fear to say, I think we get right into Bitcoin to see what happened with Bitcoin. Last seven days have not been the best seven days for Bitcoin. A lot of things been going on with

them. The cryptocurrency market suffered a sharp sell-off on Wednesday. Its value has now tumbled. By 47% in the last 10 days, the market, capital global digital currencies came in at $1.35 trillion on Wednesday, down from a peak of $2.56 trillion on May 12. The most recent plunge was triggered by the people of Bank of China announcement that digital tokens can be used as a formal payment by financial institutions. Bitcoin at one point fell as much as 31% to $30,000 while Ethereum slipped by 44% to $1900. Bitcoin still hasn't recovered from Elon Musk's climate-related concerns over its mining

process, which sends shockwaves across the digital asset ecosystem. However, having said that, having said that today, today, I think Bitcoin is back up what? Bitcoin is back up 21%, Ethereum's back up. So they're making some kind of a progress. Ethereum almost at an all time high, wasn't there all time high? It was at an all time high.

2800 and they're like, quite 26, 50 or something this morning? No, I don't know where they're at right now, but all I know is it dropped to a, all time, the last seven know is it dropped to a, all time, the last seven days it dropped to 1918, and I think at the peak it was 3,300. I think 3,300 was a number. The audience, the comments are coming up and so on. What do you thoughts about what's going on? I think distribution isn't play here. If you have distribution, you've got places to sell. And what China just said, sorry, we're closing the market, so no consumers. So therefore they lose distribution. And what China just said, sorry, we're closing the market. So no consumers. So

therefore, they lose distribution. And when you have outlets, you have everything. When, remember in the beginning, when Dishnetwork and Tesla and people said, we're going to take Bitcoin, now you've got distribution. You've got, you know, this is why Diner's Club, what's Diner's Club? It's a dead credit card, right? American Express, you know, the sticker on the window, American Express accepted here, Master? American Express, you know, the sticker on the window. American Express accepted here, MasterCardVee, so that was the war in credit cards going through the 80s, and distribution was everything. And what's happening right now, crypto is going down because there's not outlets that

will accept it. The value, the relative value is going to go down in terms of, you know, spendability. And so I think China and, oh, also Tesla said, hang on a second, we're not gonna take Bitcoin for a while, maybe it's power reasons, but I think there's a lot of distribution. If it's available and trading, and it's in your PayPal, it's in your Coinbase,

and you can use it anywhere, it's got more value. And I think what they have this week is a social thing on the mining and the electricity, but also on distribution, China saying, maiden China. Don't use your Bitcoin. Adam, what do you think? Well, I agree with Tom. There's two major stories that moved the markets this week.

Number one was China, for sure. Everything you just said about, basically, they're not being able to make payments. And then number two, obviously, we've touched on this with Elon Musk, everything that he did since his SNL appearance, everything that he did to basically dismantle the belief in Dogecoin, everything. So, but I think this is good. I think this is good to have a shake up in the market

like this, because there's basically two types of people. There's the holdlers that have been holding Bitcoin since 2012, 2015, 2017, whenever they got in, they've been holding. And then there's the speculators who have been just kind of, you know, along for the ride. And if you've got in basically this year, because think about it, and you've touched on this, the last time we spoke, how many people got a stimulus check and pumped it right into the markets, or Bitcoin, or other people. A lot of young people, quite a lot of young people. So when all you know is up, and markets, or Bitcoin, or whatever? A lot of young people, a lot of young people.

So when all you know is up, and nothing, you know, you bought in at 15 or 20, and you got at the 60, and you put in 10 grand, and now you got 50 grand, whatever the number is, you think this is a magical Bitcoin ride, like a lad in Magic Carpet ride. But the reality is, markets go up, markets go down, assets go up, assets go down.

So it's basically a lesson of how much you can stomach. So I did an episode on the episode on Bitcoin when it reached the trillion dollar market cap about basically what the big boys are doing, you know, FTM, follow the money. What are the big boys doing? Tesla at the time and other companies in that realm were putting three to eight percent of their cash reserves into crypto. Okay, cool. So use that as an example, I said, for your own market. As a market. All right. So the big boys are you have a million bucks to put 30 to 80. Oh, whatever. But that I did, I did interview a bunch of people at a crypto conference. I'm 99 percent

crypto. I'm all in on crypto. I don't use cash anymore. Okay, well I hope you can stomach a 40% drop, a 30% drop, a 20% drop in a week. So it's a basically... You're 22. What is a 22 year award about? If you're 25, yeah.

If you're 45 with kids, with a family, and you're 99% crypto, it's a gamble. And it's a pretty big gamble. Well, you know this, everything when it comes to investments comes down to asset allocation. By the way, somebody just said Ethereum was a 40, I'm gonna be very accurate here folks.

We said 3300, Tom threw me off the high setheorium's bin is, let me look, it says 4300. So continue, you were saying. No, basically, you know, you worked, what was your first job when 9-11? You were with, um, Morgan Stanley. Okay. Got you. So you started off in the investment for 41 65 all time. I, they teach you about asset allocation and a diversified portfolio in the 80, 20, you know, balance portfolio, 80% stocks, 20% bonds, whatever it is. And then there's the, the three fun portfolio where you've got, you know bonds, whatever it is. And then there's the three fun portfolio

where you've got your S&P and then you get your international and then you've got your bonds. What have you? In my opinion, crypto does need to be a part of your portfolio at this point. And it's just about how much you can stomach. So for me, 5% is my number. All right, cool.

I'll put in this. I'll put in that. But for the most part, I'm all in on the S&P and what have you. So you just got to ask yourself, how much are you willing to stomach with this crypto ride? Because it was at 60 grand, now it's at 30 grand,

this is all within a month or two. But I think one thing for sure, that you said this the other day, is blockchain here to stay? Yes. It's not going away. Is Bitcoin here to stay? Yes.

Is our NFTs here to stay? Yes. It's not going away. Is Bitcoin here to stay? Yes. Is our NFTs here to stay? Yes. It's just establishing the market value of these things. Yeah. The price point. The real argument that has made sometimes, is it an investment if it's a currency? Is it something that you put in and you say,

hey, this is a form of an investment or a currency? It's a different topic there, right? If a currency is being treated like a stock, it's kind of weird. If a currency is being treated like a stock, that's kind of weird. If a currency is being treated like a stock that, hey, I'm gonna invest into it. You don't say, I'm gonna invest into it. I understand there is a foreign currency folks.

I get four X people are big. You gotta do, but four X guys don't make, you know, 350% on the last 12 months. You don't hear a number like that, right? If you do, it's typically you're a little bit lucky and some stuff you got going on. That's the only challenge you see with this. By the way, the other day, Edward Stone,

I don't know if you saw what he said. He said the best thing they could do for Bitcoin is to keep it private, not keep a public. That's what it was built for. It wasn't built to be public. It was built to be private. And to him, he says, I'm a holder. I have crypto. I'm in with private. And to him, he says, I'm a holder. I have crypto.

I'm in with this. I'm part of the group, but I don't like the fact that it's public. I wanted to be private. Why is he saying that? Actually, go to why he's saying that. Maybe long term, he's worried about regulation. Maybe long term, he's sitting there saying, man, the more you're sitting there saying, dude, this was created not for me to be a billionaire. This was created for me to be private. For me to keep my life private. Not everything is public. Everybody can find it. I don't want it to be public.

I want it to be private. So there's, and when an Edward Snowden says something like that, I mean, the guys got access to attention. People kind of pay attention to it. So my biggest concern's been the same. It's not changed. You're just seeing how volatile it is. And quite frankly, for those guys that are going long on it,

if you dollar cost average at 30,000, goes back to 64,000. If you believe in dollar cost average, and if you don't, you're part of another community that's anti-Bitcoin, you're sitting there saying, I told you so, I told you so. Everyone has, at this point, for the last quarter, everyone can say I told you so.

If you're on the, I love Bitcoin. But to be honest with you, more that I told you so is for're on the I love big honest with you more That I told you so it's for the people that are in the crypto community. Oh totally agree Yeah, and I'm not part of that community. Yeah, I'm not part of that community I'm writing a middle I have very little in it right, but I'm writing a middle Yeah, but I respect their opinion and how they uh uh, uh, you know our true believers and what they're doing So we're gonna see what's gonna happen with totally agree Pat for the last six months The crypto guys could have sit back and be like Told you so but for the last week or two the people you know the Peter shifts of the world who are like no way

This is crazy. This is too volatile. This is a speculative speculative. Yeah, they can kind of say I told you so Cook shot out to 888 and I just gave 50 bucks. He sent me a message saying, man, I want to give you, I want you to wish a happy birthday to my friend George from Australia for Sunday from Rameen Edgar and Sergon, heia PbD, my man, happy birthday to you, George, I wish you nothing but the very best. Anyway, so let's talk about some UFOs, you okay with that? Oh my goodness. Let's talk about some UFOs

because it's been, Tom was begging, he says, Pat, we have to talk about UFOs and So let's get right into it. So here we go UFOs as an us and explain it UFOs Us an explanation you have oh Yeah, an explanation is it I see what they did Tom twist her right there and you know who did that? That's Tom Zenner did that I see what they did. Tom Twister right there. And you know who did that?

That's Tom Zenner did that. Senator Marco Rubio told 60 minutes. Senator Marco Rubio told 60 minutes. The UFO is real and 10. The Pentagon needs to investigate. This is a VTPO story. Sun and I, Florida Senator Marco Rubio went on 60 minutes and said there have been enough credible sightings lately to warn some explanations and a full-fledged investigation by Congress.

Rubio is ahead of the Senate Intelligence Committee. So not only is he privy to classify him for what's going on, he is also in a position to help do something to try to figure out what these space vessels are doing here. The point Rubio made on 60 minutes was, Tases flying objects are a serious risk to national security. Rubio demanded that the Pentagon prepare a report on what they know about the UFOs

and report should be available within a month. Anyways, did you guys see the video the other day? Like a bunch of videos coming out and pilots saying, look, I don't wanna talk about it. I'm not somebody I want to go on television, but I tell you, we've seen some weird things out there. Where are you at with UFOs time? You wanna have never had this conversation

before you could spare a board. You got blasted up to space and the aliens did the probe to you. What were your first thoughts? No, the... My way, what were your first thoughts? By the way speaking of UFOs, I got to get a fantastic Carolina. This tea is out of this world. Thank you. There you go. I appreciate that. Respect. That's very nice UFOs and out of this world. Very good. So you see what I did there. All right. Tell us about the probe. Go ahead. So she did the um the probe. Go ahead. So I should did the um no no no no. It's crazy. It's like reminds me of a Southern. We're joking. We're messing.

It's like a South Park episode. We're Cartman ended up with a satellite dish coming out of this button. Remember that? I think something bad happened up there to me. Um all right. So here's here's what I think there are too many videos out there that are really credible. The Navy guys in San Diego and you've got the pilots,

you got the courting of the pilots talking, and there was something going on down there. They talked about the Tic Tac. There was a Tic Tac shape. And it just disappeared, went on the water. Yeah, or something. And they actually saw surface disturbance. So, I don't know.

Tom, do you believe in UFOs or no? That's too much. Everybody wants to know this't know the Tom do you believe in UFOs or no that's too much everybody wants to notice That's the best doc believe in UFOs is you're gonna do a case study on UFOs I don't think I believe in like these elaborate civilizations are living under the crust of the earth No, they're living in underwater But I believe that there's something out there that's moving Moving pretty quickly and there's some sort of phenomena. And is it defense phenomena? And one part of the defense isn't talking to the other part of the defense department

about what they're doing. I don't know. I think it's a little creepy. And I can't explain what I've seen. And you've got so many videos that it's not guys at home using Final Cut Pro to make something really kind of weird and interesting. I mean, they're showing it on today, on History Channel,

on Fox, on CNN, on MSNBC, that this thing goes up, boom, goes underwater, boom, boom, just moving really quick. So some day they interviewed a guy who was with the CIA. He says, we're not saying it is a UFO. We're not saying it is a wrap. Yeah, we're not saying it is. We're not against not saying it is a wrap. Yeah, we're not we're not saying it is UFOs. All we're saying is we it may even be something used by our enemies. It could be Russia could be China. They don't know what it is All I'm asking you Tom you specifically you this is on the record your kids are watching right now. Yes

Broken Bailey are in school. They're ditches to watch on the podcast you're right now. That would happen that would happen So do you believe Somewhere out there. there's UFOs? I believe there are UFOs, but I don't believe in some other civilization someplace. You don't. So you don't believe there's a, there's a, there's an exactly duplicate of Earth,

somewhere else out there in the space. Well, if there is, I want to go find the me that's out there and ask him if he's in trouble with his wife too. So I said, wow. How about you? What trouble is his wife too. So it's a, wow. How about you? What would you tell him? No, no one's civilizations, but yes, that there's phenomena and these things are flying.

There's something real. Here's what I trust in. OK, here's what I trust in. Here's what I trust in. I trust in math. And what I mean by math is the fact that if math tells us how much stuff is out there that we haven't yet done research on, math is probably leaning towards the fact

that there's probably civilization out there. There's probably aliens out there, math. I'm a math guy. Math is leaning towards, there's got to be something out there. What that is, I have no idea. But there's definitely got to be something out there if you think about math So you know how underwater you ever seen a movie megalodon?

I don't know if you ever seen the movie a megalodon ridiculous sharp. So what's more real? You believe more a megalodon exists or UFOs exist town megalodons or UFOs So if you're listening to this what today though today not not years ago No, I think today. Do we have a megalodon today? Yes, or do we have UFOs today? No, I don't think so I don't think there's a Loch Nass monster. I don't think there's a megalodon today? Yes. Or do we have UFOs today? No, I don't think so. I don't think there's a Loch Nass monster. I don't think there's a megalodon. You don't believe there's a megalodon?

No, not down there. You believe there's a megalodon? More than an alien. Yeah. Do you believe there's a megalodon? Yes, megalodon. Yes, megalodon. If you believe there's a megalodon,

a Sam doesn't kite. Is there a megalodon? I'm in no way. There's some sort of creatures like that. I don't know if specifically I can make it. I'm talking Meg Lodon like a gigantic, bigger than one of these whale sharks that could eat a whale shark if it wanted to. It's massive.

60 feet, 100 feet shark. I think that's more likely than aliens come from. At the depths of the oceans, I wouldn't underestimate it. So you think there's more like what you're going with. You think there's more. You're a math guy. So what's the math on this? It's a lot easier to go a few miles underwater

than it is to go millions of miles in space, which means if we have a few thousand miles to go underwater, whatever couple, you know, how deep is the deepest part of the ocean? The Marianne is trenches, the deepest part of the ocean. How deep is that? I thought it was like the Inverse of Everest. Kai looked this up. I thought it was like 35,000 feet the exact inverse of Everest. So it's some other way it's pitch black down there. Sure it is. The fish even got

like Kai help me out there. My balls coming off their head. The deepest. Marianne's trench. Deeper than the abyss. How deep is it? 2500 kilometers and length? but then the abyss. How deep is it? 2,500 kilometers in length. 69,000. Yeah, there it is. Minus 36. Yeah, I thought it was deep.

That's pretty damn deep. Yeah, and how big is it? 11,000 meters deep. Yeah, 36,000 feet. What, what a time. What is that in miles? Well, miles 5280, so it's almost, it's closing in on seven miles.

Seven miles deep. Okay, so here's the thing. Just think about it. Okay, now go and see how deep is the space. Like how far can the space go? You know what things? You've been in it, that's the point. So if the space.

How far is the atmosphere of the... How much does, how much ocean has been discovered? Okay, leave it there. You hear that? Unexplored. Yeah. Okay, so approximately 5% of the ocean has been discovered. That's great.

So at least 95% of the ocean has been discovered Okay, that's great. 95 percent of the ocean Okay, I get it, but what can I go look at do the same thing with space 99 point that's the point So if I'm a man saying you believe in aliens versus the megalodon no what I'm trying to say is it's a lot easier to find out if we have a Megalodon because you're dealing with Whatever a few miles versus it's a mathematically very, can you pull it up, Guy or no? Well, it's mathematically extremely challenging to find out what is in space that's infinity. How do you find that infinity?

You can't. So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna lean towards only, we won't explore roughly five percent of our solution. Yeah, and then we've explored an infinitely smaller percentage of space. So I'm gonna say there's more likely to be aliens than a megawdome. That's what I'm banking. What are the odds in Vegas, by the way?

What are the odds in Vegas? Is Vegas, St. Megalind? I think you just did it right here. You've got this. You know, you see it? Yeah, okay. So to me, I think, you know, I think there's some UFOs out there. I don't know what's gonna happen with the gun.

I have some thoughts on this. Say it. Go ahead. Okay, so number one, why every time that they see, okay, number one, I think it's important to establish that a UFO is an unidentified flying object. Just because it's a UFO doesn't mean it's an alien. It's just something that they don't know what it is. It's unidentified.

It could be a drone, it could be a plane, it could be a hot air balloon, it could be, you know, a megalodon that's flying. Who knows what's going on? It's a UFO, it's unidentified. Number two, why every time that there's quote unquote footage of this stuff, it looks like, you know, your nanny cam that's in your baby's bedroom that you can barely hear. From 10 years ago, exactly.

Exactly. Why is it always something you can't, so there was one pilot who said, yeah, I went up there every day, I saw something, every day. This was a big 60 minute... So you went up there every day. You saw a UFO, you didn't want to bring a dope camera with you. You didn't want to let anybody know, you just kind of kept this your little secret every day. No, I don't know.

And then the last thing, how I know for a fact, there's no aliens, there's no UFOs, because when you become president, I'd say know. And then the last thing, how I know for a fact, there's no aliens, there's no UFOs, because when you become president, I'd say they tell you all the secrets. Now, I give it up. And you know if they told Trump, there's some aliens, that mother suckers telling people, oh, I know there's aliens. He can't keep a secret. First of all, so I don't really believe that. Yes. Do you? No, no, no, no, I really believe that he's going to just run him out. You know what the other day I had, I had day, I had a Mike Baker on.

Okay, Mike Baker is a former CIA agent. This interview is gonna go live here soon. We got a good conversation to get. You know what I asked him, I said, how long is a CIA agent, a CIA agent? So it depends, 23 years. For years, 40 years? Sure.

How long is the president or president? Four years, maybe eight years. If you're FDR, maybe, you know, 16 years, 13 years, right? Not anymore, but you know what I'm saying is, 48 years, but a CIA agent, 23 years. If you're FDR, maybe, you know, 16 years, 13 years, right? Not anymore, but you know what I'm saying is, four to eight years, but a CIA agent, 23 years. I said, do you think when the president becomes a president, they tell them everything? Do you think the person that knows everything

about everything that's ever happened in the history of America that's kept secrets, say, you know, area 51, area 51? You think they will tell the president everything? I don't believe that. I don't believe you're a person sitting here. You've been doing it for 32 years. You know stuff that 99.9999% the world doesn't know. And you get a new guy who was an entrepreneur, a one-term senator, a guy that likes to rub people's back, who becomes a president, a guy that is a smooth talker

from Arkansas, a guy that's, you know, very... What's wrong with Arkansas? Yeah, what's your saying that they don't tell the president? You think they're gonna tell the president? I never... I suppose that there's... You... Let me ask you a question. What is the track record of any president that's been able to keep every secret to themselves?

What's the track record of a president who's extremely ambitious, who's extremely competitive, to reveal an information to him that's, he's gonna be able to keep it to himself? You don't think a president's gonna sit there and say, let me tell you what I just found out today. I don't know what to do.

I was just in area 51, dude. I saw three headed UFOs. Oh, retake you, I took a picture, they kicked the sun. I told the guy, take a picture, I'll take a picture with you. So he took a picture with the UFO. You're taking selfies with aliens.

I don't think. I don't think president's know everything. I'm telling you, I don't think president's know everything. I don't know who the person I asked the guy said, who is the person that knows everything? Says, I don't know. There's gotta be. I would say that's pretty true

because I couldn't even keep everything from Hillary. Someone's always telling her stuff. That's right. I was in hot water all the time. Clevver. I was actually pretty good at cleaning. That's my guy. I'm a Clinton guy.

So, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if they told Trump everything. You think they told Trump everything? I don't know if you imagine this. If they did, that secret to be in the gas at the back. There is no way in the world. They say everything.

There is no way in the world. You think Trump would have used the information he knew to threaten them? Let's uh, Hey, look, you know, there's, this has been going back since Kennedy and you know, we'll stay away from conspiracies and stuff. But JFK said that he was very concerned

about the clandestine side of the CIA because it was this inherently super secret part of the US government that was set aside from Congress and it was set aside from the president. It was set aside from Senate. Senate declares war. Congress makes budget. President leads a nation with vision and, you know, certain legislative agendas with it. And so he was pointing out, here we are.

This is the checks and balances, the bicameral system of government, and we have a Supreme Court to help keep us all honest when the big arguments break out. Meanwhile, over here in the other side of the Depends Department, you've got the clandestine CIA, and it was JFK that said, this is bad. And so I'm with Pat, not only do they not tell the president, they don't tell them anything, they don't tell them something.

I don't think it's a good strategy to tell the president. I don't tell them something. I don't think it's a good strategy to tell the president. I don't think so either. I don't think it's, to me, you know. I'm backing you up saying JFK when I talked to John Amendes. He thought it was dangerous. By the way, somebody said Trump started StarFords. Let me give credit to the person that said it. Space force.

I'd love to get our audience and get a road star force. He said, okay, then Trump creates StarFords. Obviously he's Space Force, yeah. But let's get there. Okay, go ahead, sorry. Yeah, if you're listening, I'm actually curious,. He said, okay, then Trump creates Star Force. Obviously he's base force. Yeah, but let's get it. Okay, go ahead, sorry. Yeah, if you're listening, I'm actually curious to know, go ahead Adam. I'm curious.

I want to see what our audience have to say. Do they believe in aliens or or not? Yeah, if you believe aliens exist, press thumbs up. If you think they don't exist, press thumbs down. Like let's just say, if you're part of the Megalodon community, put thumbs down. If you're part of the UFO community, put thumbs up. But here's a question.

I'm talking to Chief Disguise Officer, Jonah Mendez, okay. And what Jonah Mendez did is she would make a mask looking like you and walking and sitting right next to President Bush, and President Bush would think Adam is in and it looks identical to you. And there's even a picture of her doing.

A mask of who? A mask of anybody's face. prosthetics she did she was a chief disguise officer of the CIA. That was her job. What a job to have exactly 28 years. Her and her husband by the way. Okay. So I said, role play they have going on. I said, I said, you guys even trust each other.

If you're married to each other, he's 32 years, you're 28. I think you trust each other. Exactly. That's what it was. Can you be that Paulina, part of a coser, or that knowledge tonight? Can you be that honest? So I asked the question, I asked the question, I said, so here's a question for you. So what's that?

What's the, what's the, what are the great qualities of a C.A. agent? Great a C.A. agent ever. What are great qualities of a C.A. agent? He said, she said, it's very simple. Very charming. Great sales people. Wow. Incredible with people. They know how to get you to like them. You'll love them. They're extremely ambitious, but there's one thing they have that the rest of the world

doesn't have. I said, what's that? When they discover what Osama bin Laden did and they saved the world, when they go get intel from Russia or China, and it was because of them that they saved the world, they don't need any recognition. They're not looking for glory. They don't need any recognition. Wow. I deal with that play.

That's what made a great CIA agent because they don't go and say, hey, babe, you won't even believe what I did tonight. So you know the Scandinavian Osama? Let me tell you, we met on Osama the other day. Two nights ago, three nights ago, if you remember that, right? So you know, you know, the Scandinavian Osama, yeah, so I kind of stopped the whole did tonight. So you know the Scandinavian summer? Let me tell you, we met on some of the other day, two nights ago, three nights ago, if you remember that, right? So you know the Scandinavian summer, yeah. So I kind of stopped the whole thing tonight.

No, you did, like imagine you made a girl at the bar. And we were like, So what do you do for a living? I work at this accounting firm and I'm one to count and stare. How about yourself, what do you do? I kind of took out the Scandinavian summer. That's right.

Landahelikopter says backyard, walk upstairs, air them out. So what do you need to be charming? You need to be a man. A charismatic. A people person. But you're not looking for the attention. Like you.

Minus recognition. Okay. That's a problem for you. Yeah. I mean, just tag me in a photo. I don't care what you say. I got it. It's all I need.

Tag me in the photo. So the point that's very interesting. Yes. So the point I'm trying to make to you is, what is a president's DNA? A president wants what? They want the recognition. They need votes recognition. Wow.

So why would you tell the president everything you shouldn't? I wanted to be a guy. You ever met these guys that you talk to and they don't say nothing, but they remember everything you say, they'll sit in the room and they'll just go boom, you'll never catch them do something like this They never do this. They're just focused. They said and they're like they're looking at everybody like this They don't what is the matter with this guy right, but they're computer right here. Okay. You said that no problem

Got it. What does this case? Yeah, good guy. It's this time two hours later now one word has come out They're the smartest person in the room right that guy Those people weird me out. That's the guy that needs to know everything. That's the guy that works for the CIA for 33 years that has no aspirations of being a combi, no aspirations on being on TV, no aspirations of doing anything like that. That's the person. What motivates that type of person? No, it's a DNA. It's a wiring. It's not about motivation. It's just that it is who I am. It's a wiring. There's not you like no one can make you be like that. I can't make Harvey like that, him be like that,

Tommy like that. You're either like that or you're not like that. It's purely the NA part. So all this stuff you read about, what the president, the day you get voted in, they tell you everything. They don't tell you. Okay, I stand corrected.

I don't know about that. This is not just knees book a secret. I don't know about that. They go to that little leather book up. But if you are the president, you're gonna say, I don't know about that. This is not just Nees Book of Secrets. I don't know about that. So they go to that little leather book. But if you are the president, you're going to say, dude, just let me know right now. There's aliens or there's no aliens.

I got to know. You're going to want to, you're going to ask that question. Sorry, we can't tell you. I'm sorry. Didn't Obama say that? Denise. You got to know Obama? Bush got an interview with the Jimmy Kimmel. And Jimmy Kimmel asked about Bush.

But this week Obama said something about it, right, Danny? Said something about what? EFO's. He said something about Trump this week in a book. I don't know if you saw that. I see what he said about it. A little down motherfucker. Did you actually do we have that as a story? He dropped down and, uh, Kai, do we have that as a story or no?

Can you put that up? Obama Trump book, uh, uh, you know, but Bush was being interviewed by Kimmel. And Kimmel asked some of the questions. So some questions. So let me ask you a question. When you become a president, do they take you into area 51 and tell you all the dark secrets, J.F.K. All that stuff, what happened? He says, yes.

Are you willing to reveal any of it with us? No. So he did say that. He said yes. And then he said, no. Okay. So all that knows secret talk. But do you really think you're going to tell them everything?

Do you really think they're going to tell the president do you really think they're going to tell the president do you think that's a good business strategy game let's play game yeah well Bush could just walk down the hall talk to his dad back then was dad was alive directly yeah yeah for many years and say hey dad you know did you really install chip pens he is the president of Honduras yeah but that was just for fun that was just kind of a weird weekend thing with the CIA. You know, he says, dad's gonna tell him everything. Go ahead.

The old daddy approach. You were gonna say, let's say you become president. PBD, president PBD. Yeah. All right. Hypothetical. You're elected.

You're a two term president. Yeah. Beloved. You're telling me that you wouldn't go into Area 51. You wouldn't go into the CIA and say, I want to know about this. Tell me this. You wouldn't ask is what I'm saying. Oh, there's no way in the world. I'm not asking. I never, I'm never told you I'm not asking, but I'm telling, they might not tell. I am telling you, it's not a good business

motto to tell. It is the only people that ought to know, the only people that ought to know is not our kind of regimes. It's a regime like UK, Britain, that the same person is going to lead for 40 years, 30 years. Not our model. But the high turnover, the interest rate. And here's why not our model. You want a guy to know something who leaves. The next guy comes in trashism for eight years, hurts his legacy, and that guy is going to go and use that against the other politicians inside to say,

I swear to God, if he says anything, I'm going to disclose this information, you don't think that kind of negotiation happens behind closures? No, there's certain things. There's no way you can go world. It's a good strategy to tell presidents everything. No, it's just correct. And remember, we all, the first week of any presidency is retaliation politics, right? What is every new president for the last four new presidents?

And it's not a Republican or Democrat thing. We've had two Democrats, two Republicans, right? What do they do? They issue executive orders, and then we're all looking at CNN, saying how many executive orders did Biden issue, versus Trump, versus Obama, versus Bush? And all these executive orders come out,

which is basically undo this, undo that, undo this, redo this, prohibit this, enable this. And the executive orders are flying off the shelves. And so that the first move is to use the executive order to bypass legislative process on both sides. So you ever tell you some politics and stuff? I'm with Pat. You don't tell those cats a lot of this stuff

because it's an impulsive attention-based world. Yeah, you know, it's really interesting. Hollywood did a reasonable job with it. There's a great book I'll call Charlie Wilson's War about the true story of it. Wasn't it a movie? Yeah, I think Tom Hanks is in that. Yeah, and Julie Roberts.

It's a great story. Hollywood did it. It was an entertaining Hollywood movie. But the book clearly showed, and there is a lot of people that commented on the book that said, no, this is way it happens. So watch the movie with some popcorn and joy at folks, but then go read the book, and you understand what the Clandestin Services Group of our government is all about. And I thought it was very interesting that a lot of people weighed in and said, hey, this

book was written by Charlie Wilson, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's a bunch of things in here that are very accurate for the way that groups within your government have congressional hearings and do secret stuff. And so I don't want the new president to know everything. There's a lot of stuff that I think is. Yeah, to risk. You don't want that. You don't, by the way, 130 people, 130 people press thumbs up versus 11. So you're a megalodon community.

It's 11, the UFO community, 130. So that're Meg Lidon community, it's 11, the UFO community, 130. So that many people believe in me. You've been watching Meg too many times with Jason Stadham. I think you just take off one week and I go back to your dream. I'm coming to you, Meg. Go back to your usual, so let's talk about the story.

This whole thing would might be weird. Well, okay, can I say last thing? Go for it. That just shows how desensitized we are. Oh, breaking news, there's aliens. All right, cool, like did you check out my latest Instagram post though? Like that's how desensitized we are oh breaking news. There's aliens all right cool like did you check out my latest Instagram post though Like that's how decentralized we are to aliens. Yeah, yeah, there's aliens was cool. They were here What do you mean the sensitive meaning yeah, it's here. It's a part of it. I believe in aliens. They were here

There's UFOs. It's no big deal. All right cool. What's up? What's on TV tonight? You see what happened in the Lakers game? Yeah aliens What were you think it ought to be on everybody. If there's aliens, this is of this is sort of a bigger deal than what happened in the Lakers game last night in my opinion. What a direct call out. You freaking guys. Yeah, I went there. I went there. I went there.

I went there. I went there. I went there. I went there. I went there. I went there. I went there. I went there.

I went there. I went there. I went there. I went there. I went little bit worried right now. I'm getting a feeling that you're a little bit concerned about the aliens or the megs. Maybe life is gonna be safe or not for you. Is there, is there, is there, element to concern? It's how desensitized we are. Okay, so you talk about more desensitized.

It's gonna be all right, Adam. We're gonna figure this thing out. I think you're gonna be okay, I mean, I'm gonna pull up the story. Let's pull up the story. So this story of Guardian, US officials confirms 130 incidents of mysterious

Havana syndrome brain. If we can flip it so people can see the article as well. So if you want to go a little higher, US diplomats, spies and defense officials have reported serious symptoms and some within the past few weeks, there are more than 3 130 incidents of unexplained brain injury known as Havana syndrome among US diplomats, spies and defense officials. Some of them within the past few weeks, it has been reported. The New York Times said three CIA officers had been, had reported serious symptoms since December following overseas assignments, requiring outpatient treatment at the Walter Reed military hospital in Washington. One episode was within the last two weeks, the reported number of cases is about 70 more

than had previously been acknowledged. Mark Zed, who represents some former official afflicted by Havana's syndrome, said he had been contracted by more people, believe they had been affected by. The numbers are definitely increasing. He said, the US officials confirm that there are continued to be fresh cases under review that have cautioned that the publicity given to previous Havana's syndrome case,

okay, so go a little lower to see what else is down there. And anything down there's the go-go, little lower, the evidence for microwave effects of Anna-Senorant kids, okay, so go a little lower to see what else is down there and anything down there is to go go a little lower, the evidence for microwave effects of the type of categorized as Anna-Senorant is exceedingly weak, Rolfo wrote a foreign policy, no proponent of the idea has outlined how the weapon would actually work, no evidence has been offered that such a weapon has been developed

by any nation extraordinary claims, required, extraordinary evidence and no evidence has been developed by any nation extraordinary claims, required extraordinary evidence, and no evidence has been offered to support the existence of this mysterious weapon. Interesting. You think these weapons are being used, Tom? So there's two things in this article here. One is you've got a bunch of very professional people

being examined at Walter Reed by some very good doctors that say something definitely happened to me. The second half of this article is the evidence for a microwave weapon is not there. So okay, so maybe it's not a microwave weapon. But the point is there's something going on that is a different form of device or technology or maybe it's just, you know, the, remember the- Can I pull up the fox in the story? You had a couple guys in Russia

That died when you know KGB operatives just sprayed them with You know Polonium plutonium that's atomized and gave them radiation sickness and killed them over time So these folks are talking about Havana syndrome I think there's people there that are really sick. I think it's not a coincidence that it happened at a government building. Is it a microwave weapon? I don't know, but these people got really, really sick and I think there's advancing technologies out there in the spy community to kind of neutralize each other.

Why is it called the Havana Syndrome? Because it was at the U.S. Was it the Embassy Outpost or of the intelligence building in Cuba. In Cuba. Havana's in Cuba, which is south of the US. I've been there. Right, which is. You've ever been?

South America. I've never, no, I've not been there. I've never been there. I've never been there. I've never been there. I've never been there. I've never been there. I've never been there.

I've never been there. I've never been there. I've never been there. I've never been there. I've never been there. I've never been there. I've never been there. I've never been there. I to Florida. Exactly. Republican. Republican. Republican and Democratic lawmakers are demanding answers about who is responsible for growing consensus of experts believe are target attacks on US diplomats. Can you pay attention to pull that up please? And national security officials using post-micro-weave energy

that many now believe was used as a weapon to harm American citizens. In December 2017, I made, which now is kind of the fateful trip to Moscow. I'll explain Mark a 26 year veteran of the CIA who was forced to retire as a CIA's official for clandestine operations in Europe after suffering a mysterious traumatic brain injury and debilitating side effects following the trip to Moscow in 2017. Go a little lower to see what else he says.

Keep going, keep going. I woke up in the middle of the night with an incredible case of vertigo of 10, what is that? How do you pronounce that, Tom? Tenitis. Tenitis. Which is ringing in the ears.

I was fallen over, I was nauseated. There was no mistake that something really, really terrifying happened at night in Moscow. I had been in Afghanistan. I spent some time in Iraq. This was the most terrifying experience of my life. terrifying happened at night in Moscow. I had been in Afghanistan. I spent some time in Iraq. This was the most terrifying experience of my life. And it go up to see if it says anything else as you go, Lord.

The sea evidence was a Mary Adneuro-Hotemacy when he was attacked. This case of some of the symptoms described by 40 diplomats in Havana, serving at the US embassy in dozens of US diplomats serving in China, who in 2016 began experiencing extreme vertical nausea, sometimes followed by a loud piercing sound that experts now believe was a result of directed radio frequency energy in the form of microwave. Ha. And by the way, this is not a Republican thing

or a Democratic thing. Both CNN and Fox were talking about it. And both Democrats and Republicans are saying, can we look into this? I think there's three main points here, just to break this down. Number one is Russia Shady. Yes.

Number two does Russia do things to poison people and do Havana-like syndrome episodes. Yes. Number three, remember the, I remember in the 80s my mom would say, don't stand in front of the microwave. Boom, that's the final thing. Maybe you shouldn't stand in front of the microwave. I don't know how this is happening, but you put your cup of coffee in there. You keep it moving. You show, you know, like for instance, are they're all mounted above your oven?

Our front Caroline, close to your head. Our front Caroline just warmed up this tea. I don't know. I'm not feeling so good right now, but hopefully we're all right. Maybe she did a service. But I think it isn't the point here. Russia does some shady ass shit and everything all, you know, anything. is that what the ass stands for? Yeah, exactly. Method of weapons have changed dramatically, man. Like the days of, you know, when I was speaking to Mike Baker, I said, Mike, how do you change this up?

He said, change the method of a military budget that we have. We're spending too much money on weapons that you're not gonna use for war. You're just not gonna use for war. We have to spend more money of our budget, say, trillion dollars of our budget needs to be spent towards, like, a bio warfare intelligence, learning about these types of attacks that are happening, you know, the cyber warfare. We're not prepared for that. That's kind of what he was talking about. So, I don't know.

It's, it makes you really think. Like maybe fund the lab in Wuhan that could work on a virus I could be oh you see what he did there. Okay, you did I'm you did that you said you just 11 minutes ago said conspiracy JFK and you went to a different direction And then you just dropped some like that you want the one no no no it is conspiracy but the point is you've been to one I have not been to Wuhan. No, I've been to Havana. I've been to Havana, but you're not gonna want Well, I love the wet market if Have you ever got raw chipmunk? Man, tasty.

The, you know, the point is, let's assume there's no lab in Wuhan and nothing like there. But the point is, do you think governments have labs that are experimenting with biological agents that could debilitate on these or populations? Do you think you, you think you, you think you, you think? Yes, I think they all do. I think everybody is.

I think they're all playing in these new realms exactly what Pat says. You know, another aircraft carrier, another battleship, another, you know, nuclear rocket that's not going to be launched of God we hope. But then what are they doing on the other side? You know, how do you handle big populations,

poisons, biological agents, you know, interference with power grids. I mean, and that's the other thing. What are they investing in? They're investing things that don't make people sick, but they're looking at things. How do we hack in and shut down power grids? And like somebody has hacked in and shut down

part of a gasoline operation system that disrupted part of the East Coast and the United States for energy transport. Nope. That's right. I think you hit the nail on the head, Pat, that, you know, things have changed, so warfare will need to change rather than tanks. Maybe you need microwaves or biological warfare.

Things have changed significantly since you were in the army. Yeah. Dramatically. Oh yeah, dramatically. I think one, investing, what direction you make your investments in, but also realizing that as you get bigger, you may not even know like a 17-year-old hacker may be an enemy of yours. It's who you offend right now.

And you gotta be so careful with who you offend right now. There are so many, though, you may be a 40-year-old guy who's done well for yourself financially. You could offend the wrong person that knows certain ways to hack into certain things and makes your life a living kill to complete a different ballroom today.

So it's not just Russia or China. The war many people maybe plan as a different war than the government maybe plan. It's a completely different game today. Well, very, very different game being played today. What that being said, it's like, let me put it to you this way. Let me put it to you this way.

Say you know how to do Jiu Jitsu unboxing, MMA. We go on a street fight. You can 99.9% of people. They go out. A guy comes up to you at the bar, pushes you, punches you in the face, you drop him and next thing he's on the floor crying and you take out three of his friends. That makes good for a good video, goes viral on YouTube, takes off, right? But say you do that to an 18 year old kid and you talk trash to him and you do you have

CMMA guy. You know how to fight. That guy ends kid and you talk trash to him and you do UFC MMA guy. You know how to fight. That guy ends up following you. He finds out who you are. He finds details about you. And he makes your life a living hell and you're wondering what the hell happened. The UFC, the jujitsu stuff doesn't matter today. Just like tanks, weapons, M16s, these things don't matter with today's war. It's just the reality of it. It's a very low key China method of attacking versus the look how powerful we are attacking.

It's very different. Dana White would be very upset to hear that from you. It's just the truth though. It's very, but here's the thing. Who the hell is gonna buy a paper where you have two hackers going at it against each other? Hello, you know, 17 year old from Toledo. Well Pat, you should apologize to the hackers right now.

I'd like, I'm behalf of the South Florida hackers. No, you're right. Right. Don't apologize to us. We're nice people. Check this out. I have your best interest in mind. Going back to what I was talking about,

Charlie Wilson's war, you know, they figured out one thing. The Afghan's did not have better technology than Russians. A Russian's did, but they figured out one thing. If we could give them basic stinger, all stinger is a simple little missile. You might call it a bazooka, but it was just a missile. And it was shot down helicopters and airplanes. So it was very, it was not huge secret super star wars

spy tech. It was just, let's just give them an ability to hide behind the rocks because they didn't march around in big groups or big battalions like the Russians did. So five Afghans could be behind a rock and knock down a helicopter. And that's how they eventually chased Russia out of it. It was low tech and it was asymmetrical. You fight this way, we fight this way.

So it's asymmetrical. And now it's a digital war, it's an economic war. The war is being fought so differently. It's not about war armaments. And actually, if we break into a conventional, giant, conventional bombing and assault war, it's really, you're stepping backwards with somebody. That's not the way the next war be fought if it happens to be China. I don't disagree. By the way, Caleb Box. Maybe maybe with I ran a lot. He just gave 50 bucks and he said if there's another Adam in the galaxy, we are all doomed. That's Fish. Yeah, he said that about you. Okay. Okay. I'm talking about that. Okay. Okay. So next conversation, next topic is yes. We can't hear you buddy turn on that's that's guys buddy by the way

One thing that I think is actually is called as war now It's not nations against nations. It could be one rogue. Oh, some have been lawden versus a country or this and the other and Also even going back to the Korean War is in some ways you can win by just not losing or just not giving up like the North Korea did and Vietnam as well Where they didn't win they just tired out to wear America then lost interest in the war and that led to America losing So there's different ways of winning wars and especially now when it's not a whole nation versus a whole nation Yeah, it's a lot different you got to give a shout out to Kai I mean the guy for fun reads you know Teddy Roosevelt books and Winston Churchill books. This is where he's getting this stuff from. He's a strategist. So thank you general Lute. Bank of America will raise its minimum wage to 25 bucks an hour by 2025. Okay Bank of America

folks if you're looking for a job by 2025. Bank of America is given $25 an hour jobs which 25 bucks an hour is a $50,000 year salary. So let's read this. Bank of America said Tuesday that it will raise an hourly minimum wage of its employees by 2025 to 25 bucks an hour. It costs us a few hundred million dollars a year, but it's an investment. The bank CEO Brian said, it's not the first time Bank of America has raised its minimum wage for its employees. In 2017, the bank raised its minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour. Two years later, the company announced it would lift all that level to $20 an hour for the upcoming two years. And so did the schedule now be in with an increase that impact on more than 200,000 workers. Last month, Biden signed an executive order,

lifting minimum wage for federal contractors, workers to $ bucks an hour in early 2022 from the current level of 1095. Meanwhile, other banks are also raising wages, all by not as aggressively. JP Morgan Chase announced 2018 that it would increase its minimum wage from 15 bucks to 20 bucks an hour for 22,000 employees, depending on their local cost of living city group raises minimum wage from 15 bucks an hour to 15 bucks an hour in 2019. So 25 bucks an hour is bank of America really raising their minimum wage, 15 bucks an hour, and 2019. So, 25 bucks an hour. It's Bank of America really raising their minimum wage to 25 bucks an hour or time. Are they saying we just want better pool of talent

that we're paying for? We're willing to pay $50,000 an hour because $50,000 a year, because at $50,000 a year, we're gonna get a four-year degree, we're gonna get your experience, we're gonna get this, we're gonna get that. And is this a good marketing campaign, Tom, for B of A? I think it's a populist marketing campaign

around the simple phrase, $25. However, what you accurately point out is that there will be talent competing for those jobs. And by the way, by 2025, the number of humans that are in bank, individual branches down the street is dropping, you know, there's so much all banking is being automated, so much is done online. I mean, you know, you take a look at that.

So operation goes lower because you know, yeah, so these are going to people and these are going to be people and headsets and call centers because the corner branches, I mean, they're harder and harder to find. That's actually a very good question. Can we ask a question here? Once the last time you went to a branch. Last time I went to a branch, it was, I was forced to, and what I was forced to is...

Like a gun to your head, top of my head. No, no, no, no, Kim and I ran... I ran a club, since the first time. Kim and I made a transaction, and they had to have a bank check. So I had to go in and get a cashier's check and then FedEx. That's six months. How many times have you been in it? That's a better question.

Zero. Okay, so zero last six months. If I didn't have to be going and get a cashier's check because we had a large transaction six months, I wouldn't have gone in. How about yourself? All my needs were taken here. How many of you wants a quarter?

How many last six months have you been in the branch? Caroline. Zero. Not even once. Sam. Maybe once, nothing once, zero Kai, Kai, we can't hear you Kai. We can't hear you Kai. I turned on. Go ahead. Go ahead and take care of Kai. What's the monover there, buddy? General bank, my bank doesn't even have a branch here. So, damn, my bank, don't

even have branches. That's how good my bank is. Okay, so ultimately let me ask you out. It's the first time you see Helsinki, federal. If you're watching this, when in the last six months, how many times have you walked into a branch out of bank? I'm actually curious. Comment, we're watching you. Come. Let's go ahead Adam. Go ahead Tom. No, so I think this is basically, I think this is gonna be call centers and basic processors in these large K minimum. Yep, and 50 K minimum there's not a bad Gage. It's probably gonna be there's gonna be a lot of people competing for those $50,000 here's jobs Here's what we did if you remember just five and a half years ago. We're in Texas and

We're going through hiring people and text minimum wages 720 one day I set that I said guys We're not doing this anymore moving forward We're hiring 15 bucks an hour. We started hiring 15 bucks an hour and the quality went in a better direction. So it's not you're increasing your minimum wage for me. It's what you're saying is, we are willing to pay more money for better employees,

by the way, to the people of the minimum wage community. Be a way, what be a way did to the minimum wage community said, whether you like to increase the minimum wage community. Be a way, what be a way did to the minimum wage community said, whether you like to increase the minimum wage or not, we don't care what you think. We are willing to pay more for better talent. So the market has to compete to get these jobs, and then the market has to improve to keep these jobs. Beavays are not saying,

our minimum wage is going to be this much, now be a way of saying, we're only looking at hiring people that are worth $50,000 or more. That's what they're saying. That's correct. If you are not worth $50,000 or more, we're not hiring you. That's what they're saying. But the interpretation and the way you sell the story, it's kind of like, you know, it's

a $25 minimum wage. America may be at 15, but we're going to be at $25 minimum wage. Great marketing, but I think B of A smart, it's going to cost $100 million, what's $100 million? The few, but I think B of A, smart, and it's gonna cost me a hundred million bucks. What's a hundred million? A few hundred million dollars to B of A. Nothing, they make billions on top of billions on interest, Adam, any thoughts on your end? Yeah, I think this is, comes down to one of your favorite words ever,

which is competition. So they're competing with the chases of the world, and the Wells Fargo's of the world, and the city groups of the world. And they're basically drawing a line of the sentence saying, we're better, we'll pay more, we're looking for better talent. And I think something that it's very important to point out, minimum wage, minimum wage, minimum wage,

talk about this, what are the key words in this? Wage, obviously your pay, and minimum, absolute lowest bottom of the barrel, minimum, you get the minimum pay, you get the minimum effort, absolute minimum. Something that I've come to recognize since being with the value of entertainment for the last year or so, is that minimum wage, the whole fact that it's a, it's actually bullshit. It's how, yeah, yeah, I went there.

I went there. Watch your language, man. I'm trying, am I trying my best. Oh my gosh. So I'm going to fire the fact that 725 is an absolute minimum. Yeah. Who the hell is taking that job? Like you're either a high school kid

or you are lucky to even be in this country or you're just willing to accept the absolute minimum because your skill set is less than desirable, let's say. So the fact that this is definitely something, you would hear this is an evolution of thought. Minimum wage, they should be paying more, corporations be paying more, they should pay their fair share.

It's not how it works. This comes down to the individual. If you're 40 years old and you're still somehow making minimum wage, dude, what are you doing with your life? Right, so this is more about the individual recognizing. Totally agree. I'm better than this. Yeah.

They're only paying minimum wage. I guess that's what they're paying. What kind of a loser are you, right? Wow. Yeah, I'm fired up. Is microwavable? Is microwavable, T. He just got me fired up.

Yesterday, yesterday I'm at Lofts, or two days ago, I'm at Lofts with Jen. We're eating our Lofts. This guy stops by, Ranger over a nice looking Ranger over. I think his name was Jeremy. I think I may, maybe it days ago, I'm at Love's with Jen. We're eating our loves. This guy stops by, Ranger, we're nice looking, Ranger, I think his name was Jeremy, I think. I made, it was with Jay, gave me his business cards. The man, I love the podcast. I'm watching all the podcasts.

I'm watching all your stuff. Love the fact that you're in a, what do you call it? I'm in Boca and we're glad to have you here all this other stuff. And I said, great, he says, by the way, it's great also watching the podcast with Adam. I said, tell me why. It says, because I've watched all the episodes and I've seen Adam changed over the last 60 episodes. So people are seeing an evolution

in our body here, Adam Sosnik. And we're working on Adam, potentially one day running for governor in Florida in the next 20 years. Probably not. However, charismatic, good looking, well spoken, sense of humor. And I don in sense a humor and I don't need the Appalites. I don't need to hang you with the right team behind you. You know, it's me governor. Sauce. There you go with Pat behind you. You can go anywhere you can do anything. But no, I think that's that's an important thank you to quote unquote Jeremy recognizing that. I think that's something that we all could recognize is that we're so unless there's somebody pushing you and asking you, all right, well, why would you think this?

So why don't we do this? It's interesting you're saying this, because just yesterday, we're in my office, we're going through the topics we're podcasting, right? I got two minutes before I have to jump on a Zoom, and you bring up the topic of abortion. I'm like, I did not bring it up, it's Kai stories. There's a lesson, stories we have here, right?

Because of Abba, let me read it to you. Carolina. Carolina. And then we're going to go there. This is when Tom probably wants to step out in a minute to get on his flight. So Governor Abbott signs Fidel Hartbeat Bill banning most abortions in Texas. This is USA Today's story. He signed into a long Wednesday legislation that prohibits abortion once a Fidel Hartbeat is detected. Effectively banning most abortions in the state. The restriction puts Texas on the Vanguard among states challenging the boundaries of role versus weight weight the 1973 landmark Supreme Court case that established a woman's legal right to abortion. There's not a specific time frame tied to the restriction and feudal heartbeat can be detected as early as six weeks or six weeks from women's last menstrual period, not since the start of her pregnancy,

according to American Congress of Ghana Colleges, opponents of the law argue that it will prohibit abortions before most women are even aware that they are pregnant effectively outlawed the procedure. It also does not include exceptions in cases of rape or incest, a caveat that has been long, has long been the standard in abortion law. So, I read this say, I have to say, I have to say, I have to say, I have to say,

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I have to say, I have to say, I have to say, I have to say, I have to say, I have to say, I have to say, I have to say, get on a Zoom. I'm getting mentally prepared for a Zoom. But you guys leave. Yeah. You go outside. I fold everybody. My Zoom lasts 30 minutes. I come out. You guys are still having a heated debate.

Walk us through what happened with your experience yesterday, because I know nothing about it. What happened? I think this is something that the fine people of Texas might want to consider is actually polling women. That's not the fine. And seeing what they have to say. So I asked every female in the office, I did,

there's, I don't know, there's eight to 10 ladies that responded. You're a talent. You're not an employee. You're simply a talent. So you're just talking to people. What does that have to do with anything? It has to be disclaimer, HR.

You're a talent. Yes, yes. Speaking to people, HR did come up and say, this is probably a little inappropriate. Because you're a talent. I'm a talent. Yeah, baby. Speak to people. Yes. You're a talent. Yes. Speak to people. Yes.

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the government out of my life and keep them out of my bedroom and government shouldn't tell me what to do. But they're the ones basically implementing this six week, the regulatory law mandate, what have you, the resounding answer from the women here in the audience was basically three months. Because within four to six weeks, you might not even know you're pregnant, right? That's what women had to say.

I've never been, had a period before, although, you know, some people might think I have. No, you haven't, but you often need my doll, my friend. Yeah, so the point is, and then I did some research. So I did the market research with the women. They said three months, and then here's the difference here, because there's a court case that's being taken up in the Supreme Court, Mississippi, Mississippi is basically saying 15 weeks is when the cutoff point should be. And there's actually something currently in the Supreme Court precedent called fetal viability

where states may not ban abortions before 22 weeks. So that's sort of the magic number, 22 weeks, okay? People are asking, where are you going with this? People are asking a question. I'm going that this is a clear overreach. XMXMS that. So go ahead. This is a clear overreach by the state of Texas

to attempt to outright ban abortions. And they're suggesting six weeks. And last but not least, this is the twist that I also found out that the state officials want to enforce this ban. But what they're enabling individuals to do is file lawsuits versus abortion providers, doctors, nurses, what have you. From individuals, individuals can file lawsuits

to basically have endless lawsuits, harassing lawsuits coming from all different angles to these abortion providers rather than one major lawsuit where they could use all their resources to fight it so they want basically all these lawsuits. I pull up what I just said. Coming in. So I'm on the side of the ladies. I'm on the side of the 20 week suggestion. I think this is an overreach from Texas. Tom. I think yeah I think this is an overreach from Texas. Tom. I think more deeply about this, I don't want the government legislating decisions on life.

I'll tell you why. You take a look at Greece and the Netherlands who have, you know, their broke. Excuse me, their broke and they can't afford to care for the elderly and an elderly person that has no family around. You know, you get to this very slippery slope where elderly people with no family, no financial support, 85 years old, Alzheimer's symptoms and they're like, well, guess what, we're done here. And, you know, you know, state can, you know, push the euthanasia button. And I just don't think that government should be, you know, legislating life.

I think it's a very slippery slope. I also have to think that it's, that problem that we have, I think, is civilization, specifically America, on the issue of choice and abortion, is I don't think we love people enough. And I think that there has been a great failure that we've arrived at a place where out of a fear of responsibility, the ability to care and the ability to do that,

that we think the only way out is to terminate. And I think that's terrible. I wish as a people we had the systems and the support and everything. I mean, I listen to Christian community talk about abortion and they wanna give the, you know, hey, let's give our car seat and some diapers and stuff like that, wait a minute.

This woman's got a single mom, I'm gonna raise that child all the way up. We need to have a whole set of services that support her to help her to do that. And the child bearing thing is not on the men, it's on the women. They have the child and they're carrying it. So I don't think government should be in these decisions. And I think we've really, the church and the communities out there have failed to really put their effort where their mouth is about, if you're going to say no

abortions, you're going to care for people, you know, let me tell you, the Bible says that religion that God our Father finds faultless to true is this. Take care of widows and orphans in their distress. And I don't see churches doing enough to do end-to-end taking care of people so that we can say if we've got this point of view we're going to go end to end because that's what God said. God loves life, God wants this. Why aren't you going end to end? To help that single mom go all the way up to high school. To help her have the resources to do that so she can work and get care for that child. No, we say stop the abortion and we'll legislate it on you.

Me, I'll tell you, my Christian viewpoint, I believe God's your dander of life, but I'm not ready to step across the line and draw boxes around people at their moment of freedom when you're deciding what to do. But I'll say, as a sure as hell wish that we as a civilization as a people and as Christians were going more end to end and not just saying let's stop abortion, but let's start loving and supporting people so they can get that child all the way to high school and support that single mom. Cause the dad's gone.

Yeah, if you wanna pull up there. There's a lot in there and I'm sorry, there is a lot in there. But I'm telling you. Did you have a response? No, I just think of something that's, I think you for the heartfelt response, genuinely Tom, that was deep.

I think something that's pretty disgusting is the fact that Texas, quote unquote, does not include exceptions in cases of rape or incest. And I know that that's probably, you know, maybe a percent or two percent of these types of situations. It's not a big deal. So, but I think that's disgusting, not to account for that. Were you at the meeting that Dudley hosted 11 years ago where they were showing how much it cost to test Whether you're pregnant or not because those machines are very very expensive

He was talking about for a family donating machines Well, we were raising money to buy a few machines and each machine you know how much each machine is at the time $54,000 Machine to just go and make sure like you go tested to find out if you're pregnant or not And as opposed to just like a 1999 tested Walgreens? Yeah, but the machine. Of course. But the machine to go and do...

They're the real stuff. They're real stuff. Just going to check you out. Like do you have an ectopic pregnancy or are you healthy? What's going on here? There's a lot of questions. This is part of health care people. I think health care people.

I think health care people. I think health care people. I think health care people. I think health care people. I think health care people. I think health care people. I think health care people. I think health care people. The carer of sound machine that was like $54,000. And the percentage that we're sharing that most individuals who are pregnant, girls who are pregnant, they're afraid to go in, they're afraid to talk to somebody, they're embarrassed, so they just don't want to go out and talk to the doctor, because whatever.

Marathon. It's a lot of different steps, too. But if you can pull the sub-cuy, the one I sent you, the first one, and then let's go to the second one. So this is from Gallup, okay? This is Gallup, and it's recent. Go to the day to see when this was given to us. I think it's 2021. Okay, go up, go up because the dates go all the way up to 2020. Perfect.

So if you go all the way at the top, this is the second one or if we're okay, right there, right there, right there. Do you think abortion should be legal under any circumstances, legal only under certain circumstances or illegal in all circumstances, right? So look at the colors. If you can flip the screen so people can see it, dark green is legal only under certain circumstances. Green is legal under any grayish illegal in all circumstances. So if you look at illegal, it's 20%. Okay, that's 20%. You see it? If you look at legal under any circumstances, 29%. And if you look at legal under only certain circumstances, it's 50%. So I'm willing to bet that 20% is probably Christian church going. They're probably have certain papers. They're pro-l-hmm. You got the then you got the rest of the percentage

If you want to go up to see historically How much this has changed our opinion over the years, okay? How much has changed our opinions over the years go over here? There you go. So this is actually very interesting. So same exact thing Legal under any legal only under certain illegal in all and I have no opinion about it Legal only under certain illegal and all and I have no opinion about it So this is 2020 and it goes all the way down if you look at in 2020 legal under any is 29% go back 30 years Go back 30 years. Let's go to keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going look at 1989 still 29% keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going What's all the way at the bottom the number that they have on there?

1977 21% 1980 25% so it's not move that all moved that's the point So it's not not 25 years and by the way the one in the middle also hasn't moved and illegal all the way to the top guy Goldway to the top we were looking at right there legal only under certain hasn't moved illegal and all has a move No opinion people have gone to 2% used to be 4%. People had an opinion about it before. Now more people have an opinion about it. So this hasn't really moved much in the last 40 years. There's a group of people that are staying on one side. There's a group of people that are staying on another side.

Some say, well, the kid doesn't have a choice yet. It's got to be on the mother. So the priority becomes mother chooses what to happen with the baby. Some are saying, well, wait a minute, that's the baby. You should have protected, you know, safe sex. You shouldn't have done unprotected sex. If you're doing that and you have your baby, you should take responsibility and raise the kid.

That debate's going to go on for a long time. Scientifically, if you say when it's a heartbeat, six weeks, man, you can go through it. So if it's saying, hey, when is the person, you know, when is a baby really alive heartbeat? The numbers and numbers, if you want to go science, so if they go science, if they go, so the only thing that approach, this argument has is the woman has the right to abort. It's okay whether they want to abort the live baby or not. It doesn't matter.

The argument lately, the last 10 years, some politicians have been pushing to say, 36 weeks, 38 weeks, 40 weeks, even the day off. You're hearing a lot of those. That's extreme. That's extreme. I'm just telling you. So there is extreme, but. I think something that we, I mean, the whole purpose of our show is to eliminate the extremes on the left and the right.

To eliminate the extreme like friends, I don't want to name names. There was someone that we did have the conversation yesterday. He said, I think the woman should have the baby no matter what. Rape incest, I don't care. They need to have the baby. Yeah, yeah. Said that is extreme, bro. He goes, yeah, I'm extreme.

That's aggressive. You're telling me if your uncle rapes a 15 year old, the 15 year old knee has to have the baby, that's absurd. But also at the same other extreme, you're a month out from having the baby. Yeah. You're eight months pregnant and you're considering aborting it. That is extreme. So it looks like 50% of the people said it should be legal under certain conditions. And I think that's the reality in America today. Final thoughts Tom? People have got this long-standing argument of when does life begin and what I want to know is Why does compassion stop and so everybody wants the baby to be born? But where's the compassion to to be if the society said life is really valuable and if something like this happens

It's unfortunate But we're gonna support that mom support child, get them through school, get them the best chance to go. Then we don't need the laws because we as a people would say, wait a minute, this is terribly unfortunate. Maybe it was careless, maybe it was reckless, maybe it's irresponsible. Okay, but we've got this woman there with a child. We want the child to grow up in such a way so that they can have a fighting chance not

to have a encumbered youth that maybe grew up in the wrong kind of neighborhood, wrong kind of choices. You know, where does compassion start? I don't care where life starts. I'm going to know where compassion starts. And why does compassion seem to end when the child is born? Because if we were a society that thought that way and thought long term, and people have heard me use my upstream downstream arguments, if you don't want to have problems with poverty and a lot of things happening downstream,

then you need to go back upstream. And upstream is showing compassion and finding ways to support the single moms and the children and giving them a fighting chance to live regardless of how that child came to be. And you don't need abortion laws because people would say it's terrible what happened to you and even you know you really kind of did this yourself

that really wasn't responsible but Society this is the way we feel and this is how we're gonna care this we're gonna do this because the greater good is to give that child and you an Opportunity to make it we have a we have a personal situation going on that that it's I'm not gonna give the whole information But it really bothers me and You know, it's it's it's one of those things where there's this kid that I just don't like the situation this kid is in. It's totally bothers me, totally. And we've been in this discussion about what we want to do, whether we want to adopt this kid or not, and the mom wouldn't do it, and the person's mom wouldn't. Anyways, we've been going back and forth.

It's very, very emotional conversations that we have on one end You're here like how many people were accidental babies like I don't know if I was planned. I don't know if you were planned I don't know if you were there were many kids that were not planted just kind of happened There's a lot of people that you know Mom and dad weren't planning on having it at that time mom and dad you know So how many of those people turned out to do something big in their lives? How do you do with those stories? But on the flip side There's also people in America that are having babies because we pay $400 of benefit and welfare and all this other stuff.

So it's a business model as well. So that's both extreme. Say, you more have more kids. Every time I have a kid, I get paid $400 a month. But that's a horrible business model. But because the kid costs, you know, come 100 grand. But that means you don't, if you get $400 a kid, you don't spend $400 on the kid. You only spend $200 on the kid. And you send them to public programs. But, but that's

also happened. So a part of this, believe it or not, a part of this has to do with the tax system. I know this kind of want to complete a friend angle. A part of this has to do with the tax system. A part of this has to do with churches not doing their part. They're looking at when trying to get a bigger building, a bigger building, a bigger building, a bigger building. We're doing another building budget, another building budget, another building budget, right? Versus, let's actually go do the work and, you know, and nothing against those bigger buildings.

Absolutely correct. But I don't think it's just one person or another person's fault. I think it is something that we gotta have more conversations about. And the extremes, we kinda gotta get rid of the extremes in the room when you're in the room. I agree.

Having said that, we gotta get Tom on a flight up on beach. Yeah, Tom's gotta go. I gotta give a shout out to somebody real quick. Go for it. Real quick shout out to Tom Ellsworth. He's usually known for bringing his big ass brain to the podcast. That's what you're known for, but today you brought your heart.

So that's nice of you, buddy. Thank you. Good to see you. I want, and by the way, yeah, last week, this Tuesday, I thought it was your best session on the podcast, what you talked about, but Palestine and Israel, I got so many commentaries saying Adam is a change in my views on Adam, Adam actually educated me. I felt he was being very

look at us, compassion it. So if we're in the moment of giving each other love, this was a good. All right, put your hands together. I want to give one last thing here. Couple of shout-outs to people. One, Rubin, gave 10 bucks Pat. I'm a fourth generation barber. And we are working on an app that will disrupt

the hair and beauty industry. We want to join you. We want you to join the board. I love that. For $72.10. Of course, that's me. You can be honest. Nicolo Divers-Fies is Keith.

It's Caitlin Jenner series or not. Interview her also. How come no stop Jew hashtag or poppin up? Pat, when are you having a conversation for just hands? I'll pay to go. Okay, fair enough. We'll think about that. After reading your book and watching you for your,

your, my team believes you will be a great addition. Obviously you will become a billionaire. Okay, great. I'm glad I'll be a billionaire. Caleb talking shit to you, which was great. And we had a bunch of other guys that had stuff. But he had $5 to do. $50 bucks it gang have a great one with him again next Tuesday Same time sir in a morning take everybody. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you all. Bye