PBD Podcast - Trump BANS Flag Burning, Wages WAR With Mainstream Media & TRIGGERS Al Sharpton | PBD Podcast | Ep. 637

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick react to Trump’s push to ban flag burning, his escalating war with the mainstream media, and how his latest moves have triggered Al... Sharpton and sparked heated national debate.------💻 REGISTER FOR THE VAULT 2025 NETWORKING EVENT ON AUGUST 27TH: https://bit.ly/3JbJYSZ🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/40lR90L 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc

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Starting point is 00:01:39 Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signs. Right here. You are a one of one? My son's right. I think I've ever said this before. So Trump just went after George Swartz and he should be charged with Rico.
Starting point is 00:01:59 He's saying. that George Soros and his wonderful radical left son should be Charger Rico. Well, we got a lot of things going on. He also wants 600,000 Chinese students to come from Beijing. Not a fan. To come to school here. Well, I want to hear your thoughts. 600,000. Not 600,000, not 60,000. Not 300,000 to come here. And yesterday, it was amazing when I sat with Prime Minister Beebe. I've never had so many friendly messages in my D. Me too. And I wasn't even on it. I mean,
Starting point is 00:02:27 They were giving me wishes for my family They were hoping I would live a long time Nothing that was about life and death Or anything like that It was just a very logical, critical I didn't like it But you were fair It was so much love
Starting point is 00:02:45 That came out of it that was amazing You know what I got? Which was awesome Health advice, dieting advice One guy was like eat crap Like for the rest of your life And I was like Well I mean that's the part
Starting point is 00:02:55 You know I have no clue you're talking about No matter what they say, no matter what they say, here's the difference. One side, if you criticize Israel, because I've done both in the last 12, 18 months, and trust me, I've housed a lot of people that they're not happy, you know, oh my God, I can, oh my God, no matter who's up there, one side wants to, you know, call you that you took money from Qatar and you did this, the other side wants to kill you, okay? There's a big difference in the way of messaging.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And it's the biggest filter when I go through commentary. Last night on X, I opened it up. I said, I'm going to go 30 minutes, Q and ask me anything. That was great. You were very open. I was open with whatever you wanted to ask. Hey, did you get paid? Did you do this?
Starting point is 00:03:40 Did you get them? We got a bunch of different people that were asking questions. And I responded to quite a few of them. I went for an hour. It was great talking to the guys about what it was like. We'll talk about today as well, maybe some of the things that. Yeah, Pat, by the way, I know obviously you didn't get paid to do this, but... Life changing money.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I did. I got a lot of money now. Ferrari. By the way, here's what's crazy. I did an Uber Lux today, guys. Here's the funniest part, Rob. You know what's the funniest part about this interview? And there's only one person that can say this.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Rob, how many people are thinking Adam booked this interview? Seriously? No, no. People are thinking you booked the interview. Rob, how much did Adam have with booking this interview? zero who booked the interview uh tony a different guy yes he's not even here yeah but but the point is the fact that when we told him it's like you're kidding me yeah it was like that kind of a situation same with trump but these are these are the types of stories when people say those guys are paid by
Starting point is 00:04:37 Qatar no they're not those guys are paid by israel they're not 99.9% of people are not paid by anybody the power of bots is a real thing there is no question about the bot game some people have a very very good bot game. You'll just see the comments and you're like, how come you've never had a post? How come nobody really follows you? You want me to believe you're a real account? The bot machine is so flipping powerful that they can literally, I had a guy one time I went to in L.A. He says, let me tell you what machine I have. He says, I have a machine that I, customers, he says, politicians. I don't know if you remember when, was it Newt Gingrich that got caught, having 1.2 million followers that he bought or something? Rob, can you pull up? Was it Newt Gingrich
Starting point is 00:05:17 that bought some followers? I don't want to throw him under the bus. It was probably a nice guy. But one of these politicians had bought. It was Obama, like 55% of his followers on X were fake and all these other things that you looked at. And you go to this guy's place and he's showing, there was a campaigner who's going to gocker to a virtue of it. Oh, there you go. Look at this estimated 90% of the followers were fake in 2012. Was it Newt?
Starting point is 00:05:39 No, but the point is you keep this model exists. Yeah, it was Newt Gingrich? Shit, I thought it was got it wrong. Good. That's been a long time. I still remember. Pat, I have a genuine question. what are the bots?
Starting point is 00:05:50 I see these things. I click on them. It says the most outlandish comment. But then it's zero post, four followers. What are these people? It's effective, though. It is effective. They're just fake.
Starting point is 00:06:01 It's up again? It is so effective. I can't even describe to you how effective it is. It's fake profiles. There's a couple guys that on podcasters, you know, 2 million new followers and 1 million new followers and 600,000 new followers.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Now, let me tell you who really got some new followers. By the way, let's give some love. Just last Friday, Value Teme and Comedy at 475,000 subscribers. Oh, yeah. This funny guy named Vincent O'Shanna. I know. And his, all his animals that live on the campus here, by the way.
Starting point is 00:06:29 They're all here. We got like hundreds of animals here. This is Vinny's model. Valued Tame and Comedy went from 475,000 followers on Friday to 652,000 subscribers today. So sick. I think Viagin Comedy is going to be a 10 million subscriber channel. And I told Vinny, I said,
Starting point is 00:06:46 it's going to get to 10 million before Viulmin. team and Maine does. There's something about comedy. People are just so sick and tired of this all. They just want to laugh, man. People are like, dude, just make me laugh a little bit. Look at him. And Vinny's good at doing that. Guys, go to one of the most popular one. Go to the most popular one. Rob, keep going down, Rob, keep going. Keep going down. Rob, keep going. Where is he? Up, up, up, up. I'm sorry, up, up. This guy right.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Oh, Rob, I don't want to get the wrong one. That, him and the cave right there. Second one. Second one. No, not that one. Go back one. Rob. Oh, no, that's the gun. That's the one. Watch this. Get the right gerbil, Rob. I'm not even doing anything. So who is that? Your girlfriend? She's cute.
Starting point is 00:07:24 What? I was being polite. Fine. She's not cute. You first. What? Cat's got your tongue? No, thanks.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I don't eat. Oh, my God. Stop. He still can't get it. We can't get it out of his. Can you put the link pat so they can stop? No, go subscribe. Doctor do a little over here.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Just go find out of channel is blown up. It's so fun. Give him a follow. Subscribe. But anyways. Going back to it, the reality, when you're asking a question like that, that does exist. Let me go through some of the stories of what we have here. If you notice, we talk for the longest time about the flag burning.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I don't like the flag burning. Finally, the president made it a law that if you burn the American flag, you're going to get a one-year sentence to prison. By the way, not a lot of people are happy about it. I am. I'm one of the guys that's fully supportive, something like this. We'll talk about that. Sharpen. Tom just called them earlier, but Sharpen, Trump only threatening cities with black mayors race
Starting point is 00:08:18 dog whistling. Would you like to give the phone number out right now, time with people watching? You can reach out Sharpton at... No, no, no. We don't want to do that. So let's just continue going. Trump opens to DOJ probe into former New Jersey Governor Christie over the Bridgegate scandal, got away with murder. I have some thoughts on that. Trump attacks NBC and ABC networks wants FCC to revoke their license. Holy shit. Donald Trump says he wants to meet with Kim Jong-un again as he hosts South Korean president. Trump defense $11 billion intel stakes as he will make this. deal all day long.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And I understand that, but I have some thoughts. I know, Tom, you do it as well. Trump removes. I'm with you. Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook from office, citing fraud allegations. Sharpton, I already said that. D.C. goes 12 straight days, folks, without a murder.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Following Trump's capital crime crackdown. Okay? 600,000 Chinese students that want to allow here, he warns he would destroy China, but once a great relationship. You know what I want to destroy.
Starting point is 00:09:18 anytime I want, but I want to be friends with them. And I want a relationship. That would be good. A nice, beautiful relationship. Tariff revenue will cut the U.S. deficit by $4 trillion over the next decade. Fiscal watchdog says, Federal Reserve Minutes highlight split over effects of Trump's tariffs on inflation. Newsom's pin rising energy prices on Trump again while California buckles under crushing rates.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Political divide between young men and young women on dating app. Two and a half million people signed petition for illegal immigrant truck driving. We have to talk about that. We haven't talked about it. DeSantis made a good move. I know you got some stuff that you want to say about that whole truck driver guy. Ron DeSantis, pulling license,
Starting point is 00:09:57 we have to address it. Southwest, this is one of my favorite stories, and I actually agree with it. Earmuffs, folks, if you haven't gone to the gym for the last six months, you may want to, you know, put the earmuffs on. Southwest rolls out new conditions for plus-sized passengers,
Starting point is 00:10:13 refunds, okay? So if you're a little bit big, you know, something's going to happen, Okay, we're going to talk about that. Big girls need love to. Is this the beginning of the English Revolution? AP Freelancer amongst five journalists killed in Israel strikes on Gaza Hospital, health officials say, we have to say this because this is the one that BB apologized for, right?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Okay, I don't know if we can show the clip. We probably can't show it. No, we can't show the clip, Rob. Can we show the clip or we can't? I can play for you guys so you guys can watch, but we shouldn't play for the audience. Okay. So then Lidnaz-X, Vinny's favorite guy. wears blue prison jumpsuit while leaving L.A. courts
Starting point is 00:10:49 as it's revealed, police used Taser to subdue him. Maybe he liked it. He was having a great time. That feels good. You know, Google says Fox Channel to go dark on YouTube if agreement isn't reached. And then this next one, I really, listen, they're men in high power jobs or unemployed,
Starting point is 00:11:12 more likely to cheat, steady fines. So the people in the middle are the most faithful. for once. Guess who probably wrote that article? Guy probably in the middle. But we can talk about it anyways. A woman who got cheated on. That could be it as well. Her name would have to be Larry though. So, okay. All right. Netanyahu
Starting point is 00:11:29 says he recognizes the Armenian genocide. This is from the time of Israel, times of Israel, where it's official that Israel has officially recognized. We'll talk about that as well. Crack a barrel. Stock jumps as company reversed to old logo after Trump weighs in. By the way, the way, the way
Starting point is 00:11:46 Trump did. It was so great. Vinn it was sharing you with us. Trump says he's removing Federal Reserve Board Governor Lisa Cook. That's a serious one. Tom, one of Tom's favorite stories. And then we got a few other things. Little Nasek's even responding back after leaving jail and saying, your girl's going to be okay, y'all. Your girl's going to be okay? You girls are going to be okay, y'all.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Your girls are going to be okay. All right, so let me tell you, this will be the last one I'll be doing here, but I'm excited about it on what's going on. You guys know this before we get into the podcast. A lot to cover here today. VAL conference around the corner were officially now to be exact I believe 13 days
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Starting point is 00:12:41 Kelly you don't have to do it I'm going to send this to you once a year we get together I can't wait to see everybody this year. This is going to be the biggest one by mile. Record-breaking attendance coming to this event here from all over the world. Three and a half days, strategy session, business, all the stuff that we'll be doing.
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Starting point is 00:13:36 all over the place. But tonight, those of you that bought the ticket that have come in here, I told you it's going to be special. I'm going to whisper you for the last time. If you were on the Florida area, you want to come to the networking event tonight
Starting point is 00:13:47 on the campus. Do you know we're going to have Ferrari SP3s here? I don't know if you know what an SP3 is. Rob, can you pull up what an SP3 is Ferrari SP3? You're talking about Ferrari SP3. It's a modern homage to a classic shape. Finding this car, Vinny, it's a $5 million car. It'll be on the lot.
Starting point is 00:14:07 It's just pulling up. We will have a La Ferrari on the lot. We will have multiple $5 million cars on the lot for you to come by and see. You'll have Senna's 1989 McLaren car. You'll have jets to get on and see for some of you guys that have CEOs and founder tickets. You will see the hangar opened up, a bunch of new things that nobody's seen before. Anybody that's a platinum and an executive, you'll get a tour. Founders and CEOs, you'll get a tour from me.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And then right afterwards, anybody that's platinum and executive up, you would be able to go to the cigar lounge to hang out with each other, have drinks, have conversations at the boardroom, obviously on the other side. and a platinum will be on the back. The members, boardroom members, but you'll get a chance to actually see the cigar lounge. This is the manual, by the way, Rob, if you want to play this clip, this year's vault conference.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yang, for those you guys that are going to the vault conference, manual is here. This year, it is 296 pages. Holy moly. Oh, my goodness. We cannot wait to go through this, but not all of you at the vault conference. You know when we start working on this manual?
Starting point is 00:15:10 A week after the vault ends for next year. That's when we start working on next year. Yeah. So we can't wait to see everybody. Anyways, if you haven't yet registered, pretty much last chance, 12 days left to the event. Go to thevaultconference.com. Again, go to the vaultconference.com. It's becoming the number one business event for serious growth because you actually get strategies on how to take your business and your life to the next level. Having said that, let's get right into it. Let's get right into it. All right. Top story. Rob, what do we have as a top story on what they voted for? The flag burning ban. Okay. So let's go with the flag burning ban. So Trump, Flag Burning Order sparks online conservatives free speech debate, which totally makes sense. President Trump New Executive Order targeting flag burning announced on Monday directs the Attorney General to prosecute violations of law involving flag desecration and to pursue litigation that will clarify the scope of First Amendment as it relates to flag desecration.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Rob, do you want to play this clip with the president? They're going back and forth explaining it. When I found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from winners, I started wondering. Is every fabulous item I see from winners? Like that woman over there with the designer jeans. Are those from winners? Ooh, are those beautiful gold earrings? Did she pay full price?
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Starting point is 00:16:40 Lastly, sir, this is an executive order on flag burning. It charges your attorney general. Would you listen to this? This is very important. Flag burning. All over the country, they're burning flags. All over the world, they burn the American flag. And as you know, through a very sad court, I guess it was a five to four decision.
Starting point is 00:16:59 They called it freedom of speech. But there's another reason which is perhaps much more important. It's called death. Because what happens when you burn a flag is the area goes crazy. If you have hundreds of people, they go crazy. they go crazy. You could do other things. You can burn this piece of paper. You can and it's, but when you burn the American flag, it incites riots at levels that we've never seen before. People go crazy. In a way, both ways. There are some that are going crazy
Starting point is 00:17:29 for doing it. There are others that are angry, angry about them doing it. Do you want to discuss that? What the executive order does, sir, charges your Department of Justice with investigating instances of flag burning and then where there's evidence of criminal activity that where prosecution wouldn't fall of the First Amendment and instructs the Department of Justice to prosecute those who are engaged in these instances of flag burning. And what the penalty is going to be, if you burn a flag, you get one year in jail, no early exits, no nothing, you get one year in jail. If you burn a flag, you can pause right there. And what it does is... So you get one year in jail. Tom, Adam and Vinny, you guys got some thoughts on this.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Vinny, I'm going to come to you first. Rob, I sent you a video of one of my good friends who I kind of agree with her. But when people say burning a flag in free speech, I know it's protected under the Constitution, but they're twisting what free speech actually is. Free speech is talking, writing, protesting, holding a sign, which a lot of people love holding a sign. The second you light something in fire in public, it's actually illegal. The majority of the United States, in the United States, if you don't have a permit to burn something out in public
Starting point is 00:18:43 if it's not a pit if it's not you know a controlled fire it's illegal plain and simple you can't light a bonfire you can't start a freaking fire in the middle of the street and start grilling meat in the middle of the street I'm being technical right now okay so why the hell should burning a flag and these people get a free pass and don't forget bro our flag and this is my opinion you can say whatever the hell you want it's not a it's not just a piece of fabric okay
Starting point is 00:19:06 it's draped over freaking coffins of soldiers who go overseas and fight for the country they're folded, they're given to freaking families of veterans who get freaking killed for this country. I know what people are going to say, yeah, but they're over there fighting for the right for the person to come and burn it. You know what the hell you're doing? And Rob, you know who I never thought I'd say this in public or live on air? You know who I agree with
Starting point is 00:19:28 and whose side I take on this whole thing? Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton, one of my best friends. She actually said You went there, Vin. You know what Hillary said back in the day in Congress. Rob, can you play that video of Hillary and what she said about flag burning? This is the first time I agree with her about anything. So I hope, Mr. President,
Starting point is 00:19:47 that we can pass a law that criminalizes flag, burning, and desecration. I agree that this burning, this desecration that can happen to our flag is something that people have a right to ask this body to try to prohibit and prevent it. So I'm going old school, Hillary, I'm just like something bothers me inside when I see that happening.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Other people, other countries, whatever. Burn, do whatever you want on another country. But when it happens here, it really pisses me out. Free speech. Say whatever you want. Hold whatever sign. When it comes to the flag, I'm anti-Burning flag. Adam, where are you at? Well, burning the flag should be legal, but it should be a death sentence for the rest of your life. What do I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:31 Under the freedom of, under the First Amendment, you do have freedom of speech. I think there was the Supreme Court ruling that five. before which Trump mentioned that you can burn the flag. However, you know how, like, if you go for a job interview and they're like scrub your social media, oh, this is what this person did. Anyone who burns the American flag, it should be on their resume and on their record forever.
Starting point is 00:20:51 So you want to apply for this job. You burnt the American flag, Bill. What were you? Yeah, it was a bad date. Yeah, you're out. You want to go for a loan at the bank? Sorry, Carl. You burnt the flag, but yeah, you're not going to.
Starting point is 00:21:06 this isn't going to happen you go to court you go to the mall you should be shamed until infinity there's three types of people that i think burn the flag there's just radical leftists radical leftists we know what they are they're usually doing this there's foreign enemies we see what happens in iran what are they always yell magba america okay and then there's anti-war activists here's my only problem with the anti-war activist if the only war in the history of your life you've ever protested against is Israel. You probably aren't anti-war. You probably just hate Israel. So these are the types of people that burn the flag. Tom, any thoughts? Yes. So I have to listen to careful what the president said. First of all, I will tell you the price of, and I've said this
Starting point is 00:21:51 before, the price of free speech is free speech. You may not like what the other guy says, but that's the price of free speech. Now then, where's the line? The president, you the word inciting riots is against the law. You cannot incite riots. You can have a demonstration. You can protest a war. You can protest a lot of things. You can get a permit even at the University of Alabama and say you want to protest Israel. And you can have a lot of people surround you and suddenly realize that you're outnumbered and maybe call off your protest. That's free speech. And that's also public discourse coming back to talk to you. But the president was saying about inciting riots and then asking the Justice Department to investigate to see were you desecrating
Starting point is 00:22:38 the flag to incite a riot? If you are, guess what? We're not going to stand for that. And the one year in jail, I want to see how this shakes out because I think you have free speech, but then you have inciting riots, and then you have going over that edge of the desecration, which incites the riots. And so it's like, hey, you went out there to have a demonstration, you burnt the flag, you incited a riot, and you got your butt kicked, and guess what? Sorry, you know, you're going to get one year. I want to see it play out, but there's some logic that goes behind this and a lot of precedents that the president is pointing to. And thank you so much for the clip that Hillary Clinton seems to agree that, what did she use the word? Desecration. Isn't that interesting?
Starting point is 00:23:20 Yeah, I mean, look, to me, it's very simple. If you don't love the country, you have other options. Go somewhere where you have pride. I love America. I served for this country because I love this place. This is a special place. It's the greatest country in the world. The Turning Point USA guys do a great job.
Starting point is 00:23:39 One of the guys goes out there asking these college students. I don't know if you've seen this, just came out. Rob, can you play this clip? This defines my views of when they say is America, the greatest country in the world. And then when the option is given, look how they respond. Go ahead, Rob. America, the greatest country in the world? No.
Starting point is 00:23:57 If you were offered a one-way ticket to leave the country, never come back, but it's all expenses paid, would you accept that offer? I don't think that I would leave. I wouldn't leave either. Oh, really? Is America the rear? But that's the point, though. Everybody talks a lot of shit until eventually you're faced with a decision. It's like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I wouldn't leave. I wouldn't go anywhere. Not limo driver, limo driver, but people haven't used that phrase. Our Uber driver. You're talking about in L.A? Our Filipino Uber driver.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Where will we ride? We're in L.A. We were on our way to Rofi's driving around. We're having a conversation. And by the way, the Jubilee interview that's coming out to Sunday, we're having a conversation. No, I don't, I won't.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I would take the money. I would leave. I want, why are you in America? Because, you know, it's not as bad. You think it's a great country in it? Just listen to this guy. Then just leave. So if you want to burn the flag, I don't feel comfortable about it. By the way, other countries, China, if you burn the flag, three years in prison. Russia, fines or prison. India, prevention of insults to national honor. It's illegal. You can't do it. Saudi Arabia and many other Middle Eastern countries, strict bans, heavy penalties. Turkey prison sentence or for insulting the national flag. Mexico, Mexico, up to four years. Okay? So then you go to Singapore, Malaysia, strong bands. There's a lot of different countries that have different laws for this. I'm glad America's finally putting it in place as well. But it is not a popular decision to make.
Starting point is 00:25:31 And for those who don't support it, I get your argument as well. I am, this is my line. Don't burn the flag. If you don't like it, go elsewhere. I love those other countries. It says, don't even insult the flag. Yeah. If you even do, you're going places. Never mind, burn it. You insult the flag. In certain countries, you can't burn the flag, but you can burn people. that's totally cool if you're apostate
Starting point is 00:25:53 you know what's interesting this is what I've seen with you know because I do my American flag thing and walk around the people you know what I've realized everyone who hates America everyone who basically has a massive distaste for America
Starting point is 00:26:05 they're always comparing America to utopia well we're not the greatest country in the world and anytime you give them a all right if not option A option B and option B is any other country they never pick the other country
Starting point is 00:26:19 because there's no perfect Let's move on to the next story. All right, Sharpton, Trump only threatening cities with black mayors. Okay, this is not going to end well for Sharpton. But let's play this clip here, Rob. I'm sure you got it, right? This is what Sharpton said about the president, I believe, on Morning Joe. Go ahead, Rob.
Starting point is 00:26:38 It's got a lot talking about how I've condemned a lot of what was going on in Chicago back in the day and other points. It's not about crime. But when you have this consistent pattern, that you're only going after black mares, now you're going to fight Westmore. I mean, the pattern here is clear, particularly when the data shows that crime is down in these cities.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And you should be saying, why can't I work with the mayors? The wise political strategy is to start picking off some of these mayors that can say, Trump's not that bad, we're working together. He doesn't want that. And it's clear he's doing it at the expense of people.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Okay. Does that work? Does that work? Like, Al Sharpton is just there to say everybody's racist. Like, they just, every time anything like this comes out, they just wheel him out. And can we be honest with each other? He's talking about all the mayors of all these cities and he's going after black. Okay, D.C., D.C. mayor is African American, correct? New York City mayor is what? African American.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Philadelphia mayor. Cheryl Parker, African American. Los Angeles. Karen Bass. African American, Chicago, Brandon Johnson. Well, guess what? You guys are effing up. And I'm sorry, but when somebody points it out,
Starting point is 00:27:56 you have to be like, oh, it's racist. No, he's not going after it because of the race. Clean up your effing city. For some reason, you guys just feel like, nah, let's just keep it crazy. Let's keep it dirty. Let's keep everybody on freaking welfare and everybody killing each other
Starting point is 00:28:09 because we're going to keep getting federal funding. No. I'm tired of that. And I just, I looked it up. I'm like, wait a minute. Is he really going after them because they're racist? Because he's racist? No.
Starting point is 00:28:19 They're all African-American. It seems like, hey, why aren't you taking care of your people in your city? Okay? Everything is like, no, don't look at me. Look at me. Trump, Trump bad. Trump bad. No, no.
Starting point is 00:28:28 You suck at your job. And that's what it is. By the way, believe it, believe it or not, the way he put that, he brought the pressure on African-American mayors of cities. So there's a pattern. It's not that he's targeting them. It's the fact that it's African-American mayors for whatever reason. and I don't know why, crime is high in those cities. So you may say, well, that's because it's mainly African-Americans.
Starting point is 00:28:53 You really want to continue going? This is not going to end well for you as you're going through this slippery slow. Then they have to use the racist card. No, you're just being racist, right? Now, let me show you something here about what local Chicago folks who are sick and tired of their mayor, and they're asking for Trump to come. And you tell me if these guys look like Trump voters.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Just let me they're just sick of it They're like safety over politics Finally common sense Look how she calls him out Go ahead Rob, play this clip You all sit up there and said You were not allowed Trump To come in here and get these illegals
Starting point is 00:29:31 Yeah you can smile We're in a billion dollar deficit And you spent Half of our money Half of that only legal You campaigned you Campaign and double down That you were not
Starting point is 00:29:46 Not raise property taxes. I won't raise your property taxes. You wanted to raise our taxes, 300 million. They shut it down. Now we're back here for 150 million. I love it. Okay. See, this is what we asking now.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Since you want to crash out, some of y'all say y'all wouldn't go to jail for it. Trump, Tom Holman, make a example at this. Right here first. Please come here first. I'll spend our tax dollars. To go, Michael Rob Reedy, you said to take Trump to court to protect these illegals. That's cool because we're about to make all of y'all, all of them is famous. Y'all think this ass going to rat?
Starting point is 00:30:28 I think not. Oh, I love that. This is what's going to happen to you. You got Cash Patel and Pam Bundy that you're going to have to deal with sooner than later. Then it's going to be an audit. Next, it's going to be an investment. it's going to be an investigation. Then it's going to be an indictment.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Provision. That's what's going to happen to you. By the way, let me tell you. They brought him an orange jump search. Now, they are going to call that guy and Uncle Tom. 100%. And they're going to call these guys racist.
Starting point is 00:31:04 So when they use the racist word, watch what this guy does. Rob, again, Chicago, crime. Just so you know, I'm going to show you something from a story of somebody in D.C., D.C. goes 12 straight days without murder. following the Trump's capital crime crackdown. Rob, go back to that clip.
Starting point is 00:31:18 I want to stay on this racist thing with Chicago. Watch this other clip I just sent you. There's another clip I sent you of a guy that's questioning him, that he doesn't want to answer the question. And then they show a clip afterwards of what he campaigned on. This is Chicago's mayor. Again, I've been to Chicago a hundred times the last 25 years. I had so many offices in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I almost bought a house in Naperville. I wanted to move to Naperville. I have offices in Oak Brook and there's planes, you name. We had all over the place. I used to go and stay at the same exact hotel. I have so many great memories of Chicago the last 25 years. I would like to see the city be great again. There's a big Assyrian community there.
Starting point is 00:31:58 There's a big Middle Eastern community there. Watch this right here, Rob. Play this clip. Why are you a racist? Mayor Johnson. Please turn the mic on. Thank you. Real Chicagoans woke up this morning relieved
Starting point is 00:32:11 that the Department of Justice is fun. finally investigating your race hustle. As someone who grew up on the south side of Chicago, I've heard a lot of race hustlers in my life, trust me. But they were usually marching around outside of City Hall, which is what makes this so embarrassing and dangerous. For over a year, real Chicagoans white and black have been telling me that your black power rhetoric
Starting point is 00:32:39 is bringing the city backwards from a place that it had overcome. We need the question. overcome you want the question please real chicagoans want to know why are you a racist you know first of all i reject the idea and the premise that somehow that that's an actual legitimate question okay do me a favor rod pause it right there fast forward to when he's explaining himself because the gentleman is going to ask the same exact question twice so you can skip that keep going keep going keep going keep going to the right keep going it's about to come up right there okay played from right there go ahead rob one employer
Starting point is 00:33:13 of our people is our people. What I'm saying is when you hire our people, we always look out for everybody else. We are the most generous people on the planet. The deputy mayor is a black woman. Department of planning development. It's a black woman. Infrastructure. Deputy mayor is a black woman. Chief operations officer is a black man. Budget director. It's a black woman. Senior advisor. It's a black man. One thing that I know for sure that I have to do over these next two years, every single dime that our people have been robbed of, I want to make sure that that is returned two, threefold. We have six developers that have received the first $30 million for investment.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Five out of six developers. Of those six developers, five of them are black and three are women. Boa construction received the- You get the idea of what's going on. And then they're saying, well, he's only targeting black. Black mayors, Sharpton, he's only given money to blacks and only take care of blacks. And if you're white, he ain't targeting you. So what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:34:19 Who's the more racist one there? See, this is where logic and data comes out and they lose the argument. Tom, your thoughts on the story here. Well, you know what's really funny is Trump is picking on statistics that are showing that citizens are have enough and are living in horrible situations. Washington, D.C., how many clips do we need of people that say, this is better? They're actually making the police work hard. The police were kind of casual, and we now know we've seen individuals produce what they claim as evidence that allegedly all these crime stats were being fudged in D.C.
Starting point is 00:35:02 So it was actually worse. And then when Al Schaubter comes out like this, Al doesn't want more than a five-minute interview. And I would tell you why, because he's claiming Trump is racist and you want to go into the statistics and crime. If you want to go in those statistics in Philadelphia and in Chicago, you don't want to go in and look at the victims and the perpetrators because black on black violence is at the top of the statistical list. More of the crime, unfortunately, tragically, is black on black. And so you want to go there, Al? This doesn't end well. It's sad.
Starting point is 00:35:42 The communities need infrastructure. They need school investment. They need strong mayors that are colorblind to bring it back. And right now, you need the National Guard to restore order so you can't even get to first base. That's what I think. And I think Al Sharpton is so disingenuous. If it's a half hour, if those were a half hour news shows going A to Z, he is at the end of it with nothing to say and completely, completely exposed for just his comments about
Starting point is 00:36:19 racism, he's the one with the dog whistle. He's the one that's race baiting. He's the one that's trying to make it a racial issue when all we're doing is we're looking at the statistics in certain cities and people that need help. And the president is saying, I thought you're going to go to data. I thought we were going to show some stats. Can you go to chat, GBT, please, Rob. I thought you had some numbers you were going to show. Can you, because Tom, you prompted something very good. What percentage of Chicago's population is black? Can we look that up?
Starting point is 00:36:45 It's about a third of it, Pat. I know. Let's just, I want to look at this year. What percentage of Chicago population is black? Okay? Let's say it's going to be 28, 29%. Yeah. Okay, 28, 29%.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Perfect. What percentage of the crime in Chicago is from the black community? Maybe Sharton's right. so let's validate him let's give him some credibility and maybe we're wrong and he's right and if you look at this go a little bit lower
Starting point is 00:37:16 okay so black chicagoans are 20 times more likely to be a homicide victim compared to white residents victim 77% of homicide victims in the same period were black go back up go back up you missed up pal again 26% of individuals are black responsible 51.3%
Starting point is 00:37:34 of the murders 51.3% of black, wow. That's a FBI stat. I was hoping to show Al Sharpton that he's right and maybe Trump is targeting them. But Al, this is, man, Chad GBT's racist. 100%. Oh, it's totally racist.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Chad GBT's racist. I mean, if you, Chad GPD even has the audacity to spew data like this. So how do we fix this? That's the question. The way you fix it is what? To have more black mayors to go in there to tell them their victims
Starting point is 00:38:03 and it's the white man's fault? Nope. Is that the supervision? Has that worked for how many years? 26, 27, 25 cities at a top 30 crime cities in America ran by a Democratic mayor? I don't know what percentage is black. We can find that out.
Starting point is 00:38:18 But the point is, the more you start saying things like that without given data, it just ends up backfiring on you. And then Chad GBT put some numbers out there. Like, oh, shoot. Maybe this is not a good angle I should have taken. Can we get to the next subject? Let's talk about something else. you know let's talk about a different story here
Starting point is 00:38:36 Adam did you have any thoughts on this you do well you know words have power you've said this before but certain words they lose all their power once they're overused or inflated or it just becomes completely diluted to the point where it's like it's lost its complete meaning
Starting point is 00:38:51 and one of those words specifically is racist right so like you'll hear like for instance when you interviewed BB Nahu literally interviewing Hitler literally Bibi is Hitler literally Well, clearly you don't know the word literally
Starting point is 00:39:09 And to draw a comparison between Bibi Who's doing a press conference Or doing a podcast with Hitler Remind me when Hitler was doing podcast And basically explaining himself to the world Literally Hitler So when you call someone racist Trump is racist
Starting point is 00:39:25 Trump is Hitler How many times have you heard that? It's so absurd to me And it's so Power-L and toothless and becomes completely watered down that it loses its meaning. So what I say when it comes to racism,
Starting point is 00:39:41 do you remember when Bass of Yusuf, we had our little engagement over there and he's like, you're racist? I'm like, why? Because I think certain countries in the Middle East are more focused on GDP and they're doing well, like Gulf countries, and certain countries are more focused on terrorism
Starting point is 00:39:54 and GDT and they're not doing so well, that's racist. No, that's data, buddy. So to me, it's only racist if you single out one group. It's not racist if you make fun of everybody. When I was doing stand-up, much like Vinny does, I would call out black, white, Mexican, it's only racist if you single out one group and flip it.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Why is it that someone like Alice Sharpton is only singling out one group, white presidents? So to me, he's toothless and as loses his meeting. It's unfortunate because there's a couple of things that happens with social media and with Chad GBT and these searches that you can do. Nowadays, at any given point, somebody can watch somebody say something on CNN, MSNBC Fox, and I'm like, is that true?
Starting point is 00:40:39 Let me go do them. Oh, no, that's wrong. Is that true? Oh, no. For 20 years, I've been listening to you've been lying? Is that true? Is that true? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So that is the beautiful part about data that people get to come back and show numbers, and then you get to make a decision for yourself. And trust me, the people that are doing it right, they don't like this type of date. I was an insurance. And a lot of times, you know, it was a Medicare insurance, Armenian this, Armenian, it's like, you know what? It's not wrong.
Starting point is 00:41:14 It's not wrong. There was a lot of it going on in Glendale, North Hollywood, a lot of these places, it was. So what are we going to say? That's everybody? No, that doesn't mean it's everybody. But that does mean a bigger percentage does it, and it needs to be addressed. And there's nothing wrong with that. Somebody needs to address it.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Hopefully the right people will. Let's go to the next story here, which has to do with, I'm going to go to this one here with Trump attacks NBC and ABC networks wants FCC to revoke their license. This is a pretty heavy statement to be making to revoke a license despite a very high popularity and according to many among the greatest eight months
Starting point is 00:41:54 in presidential history, ABC and NBC fake news to the worst and most biased networks in history give me a 97% bad stories. If that is the case, they are simply an arm of the Democratic Party and should, according to many, have their licenses revoked by the FCC. I would be totally in favor of that because they are biased and untruthful and actual threat to democracy. Maga. Tom, your thoughts on this.
Starting point is 00:42:16 So when you say it that way, I wish the president had mentioned equal time. President, I thought, did a really good job on the flag burning mentioning inciting riots because that's a law. That's a statute. You can investigate that. There is the equal time provision that when you are given a license by the FCC, there's equal time provision. And growing up, Pat, you and I may have remembered watching TV in California in L.A., you would have citizens that would give their opinion on the evening news.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Do you remember this? Yes. You know, so someone would say there, hi. My name is Joyce Azerbaijan, and, you know, I live over here, and I have an opinion about this, and she would read a statement. we'd say the opinions of citizens are not necessarily the opinion of the network itself, however, are presented to give equal time. And that's what it used to be. All of that has been basically unenforced.
Starting point is 00:43:10 And if you unenforce the speed limit, everybody is suddenly driving 80 miles an hour in I-95. Guess what? That's what happens. So if you don't enforce this, then you get this. I wish Trump, rather than making it almost feel the, door's kind of open with his statement here where people could say, oh, you're just being retaliatory, you're going after this. He's right on certain things, like giving percents about the stories that were never,
Starting point is 00:43:35 but I wish he had mentioned the equal time. They are not giving equal time. They were supposed to be equal time provisions. There were supposed to be things, and a lobbying, and it was like, this is a paid statement. The people that are selling bamboo steamers and ginsu knives, they had to put those things, remember these, Vinny? They said, this is a paid advertisement for, you know, For Ginsburg. And you have to say it was a paid advertisement. Well, now you do have, you do have politics coming in and basically paying to get people on and doing things.
Starting point is 00:44:05 So I wish Trump had been taken more to the hoop as saying they're going to lose their license. If they're going to be biased one place and they're just going to be a tool and they're not going to be following the equal time provision and the other things, I think they could lose their license. The way he said it kind of made it sound like angry and I'm going after you. Very good point. Rob, can you go to Chad GBT and type the following thing? Is there equal time provision given by the FCC license? Just type in, is there equal time given by FCC license? Watch what comes up. Tom's making a very, very good point here.
Starting point is 00:44:39 So if you go to the history of a 1934 equal time, okay, established under Commission Acts of 1934 and enforced by the Federal Communications Commission, FCC, requires that U.S. broadcast, TV, and radio, give equal opportunity to all legally qualified political candidates for the same office if they requested. This doesn't mean equal airtime automatically. It applies when a station sells or gives airtime to one candidate. Then they must offer the same terms, time, rates, and conditions to others as well.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Now, obviously, none of that is accurate with what happened with NBC and CBS and ABC. Now, if they choose to go after them, it's going to be a very slippery slope. on what happens here. There's the good and there's a bad here. Let me tell you what the good and the bad is here. The good is they're going to be held accountable. That's the good. The bad is when the Democrats get elected,
Starting point is 00:45:39 the same pressure is coming back again. It's letting you know. So this is great right now, conservatives, Republicans. Oh, my God, let me tell you, Google was at the White House for Trump's inauguration. and they gave $2 million, a million dollars. Paisos was there, and YouTube was there. Oh, my God, I see you guys in our search all the time.
Starting point is 00:45:58 And we, you know, it's a spot. Everybody's there, right? Facebook, I'm giving $2 million for the party and ceremony. Is that how they're going to be when the Dems born in the White House? Are they going to show up the same way? I don't know. Are they going to be like, hey, you guys got to do something about that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I hope America doesn't have a short-term memory and doesn't forget when the Twitter. files and everything came out seeing that Biden was asking Twitter and others on what to do. We've never had YouTube files. We've never had Google files. We've never had any of these other files. We've only had Twitter files because a guy bought it, named Elon Musk, right? So as much as we're going through this, I want accountability of that taking place.
Starting point is 00:46:46 The Dems are going to remember when they come to office, they're going to be targeting people, left and right in ways we've not seen before. If Trump pushes extremely hard on everything, it may be good while he's president,
Starting point is 00:47:05 and maybe even if a Republican wins the next two terms, but eventually Democrats' turns is going to come, and they're going to play ball in a major way. So whatever way they make these changes, I hope it's permanent changes. It's not temporary changes. Vin, you look like you're going to say something. I think it's, it should be permanent because think, and you made a great point earlier,
Starting point is 00:47:21 now if somebody says something anywhere person live television network time I could go right on my phone and be like no you're actually right or you're actually wrong think about for how long how many decades we had it where whatever that channel told us it was fact whatever that channel told us
Starting point is 00:47:38 it was fact and I love the fact about accountability because in all fairness nobody's ever been gone after as much as he has and like for instance like the networks knowingly CNN knowing Russia was all BS pat and getting paid to do it and look what they did. They destroyed people's lives. I still know. I have people in my
Starting point is 00:47:56 life that I love that still won't talk to me because of what they brainwashed them to think that this guy was Hitler, that this guy was a Nazi. And a great point out of that they downplayed that word. The left made the word Hitler and Nazi. Those words kind of like, whatever. If Hitler's like Trump, then what? He liked the, like it's unbelievable. And the main one, COVID. How are none of these networks. How is nobody at CNN, MSNBC, going to get in trouble at all? Was anybody held accountable, Pat, for somebody, Cuomo, all these guys, go in front of a camera and making people saying, if you don't get this experimental crap in your body, you're the enemy. They literally call this enemy. So now, with myocarditis and sudden death is on a
Starting point is 00:48:41 freaking, on a rise, is anybody going to get held accountable? I think that's the right place to go after. I think that's the right place to go after because, you know, anchors and journalists played doctor. They played doctor. And they told you what to do or else, boom. If you don't have a bed, too bad. Too bad. Die. Oh my God. Oh, my God. Kimmel. I don't know who said I think. Kimmel, bye-bye. Bye-bye. So, you know, these are the things that you should go after. Because to me, that was the American people. Okay, that was the American people. The more he goes and targets those stories that are emotional to the voter, I think that's the right move. This is more emotional to you. I think you won. In a, let me put it to you this way. I don't know any other way to put
Starting point is 00:49:36 it. Forget about how when we won the hockey, you know, the, what's the name of that? No, no, no, not Stanley Cup. The way U.S. Russia was a U.S. Russia, right? What is the game? The miracle on ice, right? Forget about that. Forget about the comeback of the Red Sox. Forget about the comeback of, you can go and look at all of these stories. There's never in the history of mankind
Starting point is 00:49:59 been a bigger comeback than what the president did. Never. It does not exist. That's number one. You won. Not go fight for the people like you're doing. So my focus will be you make a very good point. Go after that story.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Target that. If this is an angle to go there, go do it. And I actually think he should pursue this as well. I think Tom's right, maybe messaging to be in a little bit more of, you know, these guys play doctor and they're not doctors. You're not a doctor. What are you doing telling other people? We will bring experts, podcasters will bring experts and talk to me.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Here's what I take. Here's what I take. Here's what I take. You better or else. Yeah. Little too problematic. Adam thoughts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Well, regarding Trump versus the media. I used to get really upset with Trump in 2016 when he would attack the media. You're fake news. You know, he would say things like the media is the enemy of the people. Yeah. And I was, what? I mean, this is 10 years ago almost? Is this guy for real?
Starting point is 00:51:00 That was two months ago. Okay. No, when he first came out, correct. Yeah. And the media would say, this is what Stalin used to use. This is what autocrats and dictated. And for people that basically had TDS or were developing TDS, at the time, it started to break
Starting point is 00:51:17 people's brains. And I admit, I was like, what is this guy? What? You know, media is the, what do they call it? The fourth estate. Like, this is what keeps people in check. And what I realized slowly, but slowly, but surely is that he was actually right. You know, Trump wears the head. Trump was right about everything.
Starting point is 00:51:36 The media did not, they were not journalists anymore. They became activists. And you always hear about the weaponization of justice. The weaponization is a judge. I can't believe he's attacking, you know, his critics. What about the weaponization of
Starting point is 00:51:51 media? You know, he talked about in this story here, 92 to 97 percent negative. Well, if you just do it based on approval ratings, just that alone, at the very least, it should be 40, you know, 50, 50, 50, 40, 60, based on
Starting point is 00:52:07 approval ratings, but 92 to 97% negative coverage, and we saw it play out over the media, but we saw it play out even more, on late night comedy 100% of the jokes and the guests were all on the left
Starting point is 00:52:22 and if they had a guest it'd be freaking Liz Chaney who is heading the January 6th committee so to me it's all fabricated it's all fake and I will say
Starting point is 00:52:33 Fox News does this on the right but not as bad as they do on the left but you make a good point but at the same talk it's like it has fine get it I get it they are they're going to a certain audience they're going for the Republicans and the left is going to the left. But I've never seen them like push a hoax or like a fake thing.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Like what were they pushing? They did kind of push that Dominion thing a little bit. They had to pay almost a billion dollars for that. So that came to bite on my butt. But that's a legal thing. But as we've learned, you can hack any machine because we had a guest on here that proved it. Court is a whole different thing.
Starting point is 00:53:07 But yeah, I get it. Let me go to this next story here, which is extremely important for those of guys that travel, especially if you travel Southwest. I know how painful this is for some. Some of you. Painful. And some of you guys, it's a warning because some people are going to think this is discriminating. But Southwest rolls out new conditions for plus-size passengers' refunds.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Starting January 27th, when flights with assigned seating being taking off plus-sized passengers should proactively purchase the needed number of seats prior to travel to ensure the additional adjacent seat is available, as stated on Southwest Airlines website to advise potential customers. Southwest's website lists a seat width on the Boeing 737 models. It flies from 15 and a half inches at the narrows to 17.8 inches at the widest with the arms at the definite seat boundary. Jeff Jenkins, founder of Plus-Size travel blog, Chubby Diaries, told USA Today, I just hope the consumers are aware of this change. And I wonder if Plus-Sized people will skip out on flying with them at all because of them not knowing if the flight is sold out or not expressing concerns.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Rob, do you want to play this clip? We think that this policy change risks increasing body shame. We already know that plus-sized passengers are, you know, verbally harassed, are videotaped, are sometimes even physically assaulted on flights. Southwest Airlines is changing a long-standing policy for plus-sized travelers. For years, quote, customers of size were encouraged to buy two seats,
Starting point is 00:54:41 then apply for a refund after they. trip, a process that had fewer restrictions on when refunds would be provided. But starting January 27th, refunds will only be granted if three conditions are met. The flight must depart with at least one open seat, both seats must be in the same fair class, and refund requests must be filed within 90 days of travel. The refund policy is going to be so much more restricted to you only being able to get a refund for your second seat if the flight was not full. full, which many Southwest flights are full. This is not a policy that was bankrupting Southwest and
Starting point is 00:55:19 therefore they've changed it. It's part of their, you know, whole package of sort of nickeling and diming customers more. The updated policy goes into effect the same day the airline switches to assign seating on all of its flights. The question always comes down to, do you believe that people who are traveling, who are traveling by plane, are paying for passage from point A to point B? Or do you believe that they're paying for like butt space. Southwest was the best thing that we had for somebody who either couldn't afford to pay for a second seat of friends or who could go back rob again. From point A to point B. Are they paying to go from point A to point B or are the point space? Yeah, you're taking space. Southwest was the best thing that we had for somebody who either
Starting point is 00:56:00 couldn't I don't understand this like Q's POSS right there. So if you live in a if you if you got a family of five. Can you fit in a one-bedroom apartment? Probably not. You probably need three bedrooms. Are you taking too much space? Is that fat shaming? So what do we call that? Big family shaming? Procreating shaming? What do we call that thing? Is there shaming going there? No. Somebody wants to have more kids. You want to eat more. You know, one is not 300 pounds by accident. It just doesn't happen. Whenever I'm out of shape, it didn't accidentally happen. and I'm out of shape. I got out shape.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Okay? And if you put on weight on any of this, South D. So I kind of like what Southwest is doing here. I do think the problem is going to be the following. Say you don't buy the extra ticket, Vinny.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Yeah. Just visually go with me. Okay. I'm not big. You're big. You're above the 17.9 inches. Yeah. So you're big.
Starting point is 00:56:58 That's right. And we're outside before you get on. Okay. Everybody knows this is the new rule. Yeah. So you got 300, passengers in line, they're all pointing at you.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And they're just waiting to see who's going to be sitting next to that person. And you go up and they notice you've only bought one ticket. Some of the most viral videos the next three to six months are going to be those, what do you call it, the rage. How dare you call me plus this is body-shaming. It's going to happen. Oh, a thousand percent. And you know, this is going to be rough, though.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I'm visually, you're going to have to go there. Yeah. Okay. You're ready for this one? Vinnie, I promise you you're visually going to go there. Okay. You know when you bring these things, the bags, and you say, no, it's going to fit in this thing. And you're pushing it, pushing it in there.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Oh, you're going to have to push people. No, my hips fit. Are we going to have a measuring device at 17.8 inches? Honey, can you push it? It's pushing me. Excuse me. If you can't fit in here, you can't get on. So now imagine that, you're jumping.
Starting point is 00:58:08 it, but the things rolls up. Oh, man. Like, you know what I'm saying? If it rolls up, so you're like, no, I'm good. They're like, no, but this is going to fall on somebody. Yeah, I'm going to hold my hips. I think this is going to be such negative blowback, whatever you want to call it, on Southwest, with videos going viral, but it's going to be some of the most embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:58:27 It may cause people to want to go on Southwest flights for no reason just to see people there. Like, can you imagine you book a flight? You're like, oh, I want to see what's going to happen to this person. Record, record. It's going to go viral. She's screaming, throw her flip-flop. Goodell! Right?
Starting point is 00:58:43 It's going to be... Matter of fact, we're going to fly Southwest to Orlando. That's what we're going to do. Let's do it. I just bring the camera crew with us. Go ahead, Tom. So Southwest did it to itself, because what it did is it said, okay, plus-size passengers had to buy two tickets. This is a fact.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And I've known people that had to do this. Nice people, people that were respectful, but, you know, we're not... had arrived at a condition for whatever reason, and they buy two tickets. What Southwest would say previously, remember, there's no assigned seating in Southwest, so they just sit down. You know, so they take the window in the middle and they say, they show I've paid for two. I've seen it. Now, if the flight was not sold out, in other words, there was space, then Southwest would refund
Starting point is 00:59:30 the second ticket because they say, well, we didn't sell out the flight. The seat would have been there anyway, and you got to use it. that I think was a mistake for Southwest. I agree. I'm with that. If I'm doing it the right way and I'm being respectful and you don't give that back to me and you still take that money, I'm not okay with that. Yeah. And so everybody else, you know, nobody else gets to go on and says, wait a minute, my carry-on
Starting point is 00:59:53 was only four pounds because it's just my laptop. Should you give me part of my ticket back because Vinny's got a backpack and a giant laptop? You know, no. So that was the old way. The old way, they buy two tickets on their call Southwest. Hey, there is open seats, and so can I get refunded? Now they're saying with assigned seating, this is more difficult. Now you need assigned seating, makes sense.
Starting point is 01:00:16 So the flight attendants can't say, well, you could sit there and you could sit there. And you can move here and you can move here. Because there's been situations you see people traveling with kids. And someone's in Group C, a lady with a kid and says, hey, I got a six-year-old girl here. I don't want to put her in the middle seat between these two people. She doesn't know. And somebody says, hey, could you move? and they do it nicely, and so the flight attendants do it.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Well, now you've got to sign seats, and you're going to have a business class and a regular class. So now Southwest is, they painted themselves kind of in a corner where now it makes it look like they're taking something away when they were giving something beneficial to people out of their own sort of activism rather than saying, hey, you're larger, you paid for two seats, okay, fine. And you know what? And here's the thing, what nobody's really talking about, how about get your ass in shape
Starting point is 01:01:05 like the fact that we're at the point where you're just like not even trying to change it's not like she caught fat you know what I mean you didn't just catch it you know what I got hit you know what blue ocean strategy somebody out there should open up a freaking airline
Starting point is 01:01:19 and call it big booty air big ass air no seats just get all the big ass people in there throw snacks some sodas and be like guys eat crap do whatever lay on each other we got cargo in the back 45 minutes it's like that should be motivated
Starting point is 01:01:32 you instead of sitting there complaining about my hip is going to be I'm not going to pay how about get in shape getting in shape I know that there's some people out there that have a disease you know how small the bathrooms are right I was on a southwest flight I think it was a miracle this enormously large guy goes in the bathroom I didn't know how he fit in there
Starting point is 01:01:50 he get in there and they close the door he comes out five minutes later he was still square for a while like a pack like like like a cookie dough and a freaking tube oh what no that was great big booty air This is what they call. Big booty air.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Body shaming. Adam. You guys are body shaming today. Are you comfortable talking about this? I'm very comfortable. Well, this whole coddling of the American mind and using terms that are inclusive is like, you're not plus sized. You're not full figured.
Starting point is 01:02:18 You're just fat. You're obese. What figure, what are you, a hexagon? So all these words that have been changed, all these words that have been changed, you know, you're no longer a, you're no longer a woman. You're a birthing person. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:32 You know, you have a front hole, not a uterus anymore. They're not illegal aliens. They're newcomers. Welcome. Come on in. Here's your EBD card. I'm spherically enhanced. There you go, Tom.
Starting point is 01:02:45 All these things, you're not homeless, you're unhoused, just stop it. You're big, you're fat, you're ugly, deal with it. What's happened is people want to use inclusive language and they want to feel like everyone wants to feel, to protect your feelings and safe spaces, and I get it. But what happens is you create an intelligent. entire civilization, a generation of soft individuals. We see the stories about kids bringing their parents to job interviews, right? It's like you're raising these kids to be completely soft.
Starting point is 01:03:16 What's happening also is shaming needs to be okay. Dude, you are fat. Get in the gym. Like you just said, I'll tell you one last story. As far as, like, you said it could be a business model about getting your money back if you're sitting next to a big fat person on a plane. one time before we started flying private things are going rewarded valutainment world we flew out to L.A. It was me, you and Tegren. I don't know if you remember.
Starting point is 01:03:40 And you were sitting at the front, Tegren, I don't know where he was sitting, but I was in the back, PBD. I was actually, I told them put him all the way in the back by the bathroom. I was all the way back there. I really was. And I said at the very least, get me a window seat. And there it was. You know, like, you think you have the middle seat open. And then it's like, we're done loading with passengers. we've got a couple of her pastures.
Starting point is 01:04:00 And then you see her. Big Bertha coming down the aisle. I'm looking around. I see every seat taken. And I see a middle seat next to me. And it's just like, boom, boom. Here she comes. I'm like, oh, she's coming this way.
Starting point is 01:04:13 And then it's like, excuse me. Oh, you're next to my seat. I'm like, oh, it's. Tehran comes to the bathroom about an hour later. He sees me. I'm like, in the window. He just laughs at me. I would have got a refund for that according to South Northwest Airlines.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Yeah. I mean, because big girls need love, too. but not fun to sit next to that lady on a serious angle a serious number you're talking about number scream tom how many percent of americans are obese 45 percent 42 percent of americans that's 141 million americans are obese 10 percent are severely obese all right and kids and teens ages 2 to 19 20 percent of the kids are obese and it's borderline getting we got big fat people in this country sorry it is what you're Get your ass in shape.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And by the way, when a kid, when you see a kid, Pat, when you see a six-year-old, seven-year-old, like, that's child abuse. He's not, what are you feeding that kid? This is why RFK is so against what we're feeding kids. Speaking of RFK, do you remember the video you showed one time? Get the soda machines out of schools. Of JFK and saying basically like, our kids are not used to go to the gym. Our kids are getting fat now. And we need a kids who can do a push-up and a sit-up.
Starting point is 01:05:29 We've gained so much weight. It is. We've gained so much weight as a country in the last 50 years that this is sort of the ramifications of those decisions. I don't want to spend this much time on these stores. I'm going to go through it faster. But the point is, this is happening. It's real. Causing Southwest Airlines to expose it because it's costing them money.
Starting point is 01:05:49 They need to make money. But at the same time, unfortunately, it's also the reason why so many people are using GLP ones. It's also why Ozempic is on fire rate. right now. I see some people haven't seen four years. I see them. I'm like, I don't even recognize you. Yeah. What happened to you? And I'm like, Jayne's like, hey, did you see that? Yeah. Is that her? Is that her? No, that's her. Wow. They split in half. Yeah. And I know it's not because they're 24-7 working at 4 or 5 o'clock in the morning training. Imagine. The shortcut system is also there. So you want me to not body shame? I'll take the pill, but I'm not going to the gym. There's never been more of a time to have data to help you be healthier than today never this is the best time ever to be healthy the data's out
Starting point is 01:06:35 there so anyways let's go to the next door here next story i want to get into is a uh story of what happened with uh the truck driver rob do you have the clip of what happened here so there's a fatal car crash fatal uh truck drivers they go out there and you've seen this clip okay you've seen the clip if you if you have any of it, Rob, is that the one? This is it. Okay, can we actually show this? It's, yeah, go ahead. Watch this clip here.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Go ahead. So these guys are truck drivers. He's making a U-turn. Look, look, and that's just a family, people, three people, boom. Like, what are you doing, bro? So they hit. And the person went under, like, Pat, they, he makes a K-turn, and the car goes, and they crush all the people inside the freaking family.
Starting point is 01:07:25 It's a van. It's a van. I don't think it was a family, but it's a minivan, and there's three people in there. Walk me through this. He's driving. Adam, he goes, so he goes, oh, I need to go back that way in the freeway. Turns that big-ass thing around. He goes, why?
Starting point is 01:07:38 He made a U-turn with a semi by pulling over to the far right side and then swung across traffic. In the middle. The turnpike. So. You have a Florida turnpike. You know, in the highway, they have a little break for cops. 70 miles an hour. This is not like you're doing it in a street going 35.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Florida. Turnpike, you can go 70 miles an hour, van comes hits, and obviously it's a tragic incident that happens. Now, watch this. The driver is an illegal immigrant truck driver, accused of causing a crash on Florida Turnpike in Fort Pierce, August 12, killed three people, has garnered 2.5 million signatures as of Sunday afternoon. This is a 28-year-old man. The petition posted on change.org addressed to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and the Florida Board of Executive Clemency States. This was a
Starting point is 01:08:29 tragic accident, not a deliberate act, and argues while accountability matters, the severity of the charges against him does not align with the circumstances of the incident. It requests a proportionate and reasonable sentence if convicted, parole eligibility after part
Starting point is 01:08:47 of the sentences served in consideration of alternatives like counseling. You may a U-turn, you're illegal here. Three people die. You want counseling and community service. Harjinder Singh was operating a commercial semi-truck with a trailer when he allegedly attempted a U-turn and an unauthorized area. You're causing a trailer to jackknife and collide with a minivan killing all three passengers. What does Governor DeSantis do? Rob, do you have that clip of Governor DeSantis? Here's what he's doing. Go ahead, Rob. We had an issue where you had
Starting point is 01:09:17 an illegal alien truck driver that got a commercial driver's license in the state of California, employed by a California company, kill three people in Florida. This guy didn't even speak English. We're bringing him up on charges. He's going to face a lot. And I can announce, Jesse, that I said initially the company needs to be held accountable. And we've been working with the federal government, and they are pulling that company's license to do business because you cannot employ somebody who cannot read the road signs.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Why is he spending all this time, you know, trying to be fresh with President Trump? Why doesn't he do his job and protect the people? And as much as we somehow poke fun at California, oftentimes, because of all the problems that the liberal policies have allowed, that is spilling over into the rest of the country. And Florida is a tragic example with three of our fellow citizens who were dead because of his sanctuary policy. Okay, so direct callout right there of this taking place.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Vinnie, what else do we know about the story? I mean, well, first of all, I sent Rob, Rob, I sent you a, clip. I believe I sent you this morning. Pat, there's footage of him Harjinder Singh from August 3rd, 2025, released by Mexico State, showing him talking to an officer who at time, he couldn't even understand him.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Like, this is the clip of... He's already been... This is the one that you'll take care of within 30 days, okay? And then just choose one of those options right there. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. And this one right here is your inspection. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I have a good one, sir. You know, I just already have... No worries. I I feel bad being the first guy to write you a ticket,
Starting point is 01:10:55 but, you know, I try to help you up. This is in the license in the ticket. What's that? This in the ticket and the no-my credit. I'm sorry. I guess I don't know this. Maybe this is my ticket and my license. How many years?
Starting point is 01:11:14 He doesn't, you know what? If you're a cop, if you're a cop, he doesn't even know how to speak it. What is he asking him, Rob? He's like, do I have to pay the ticket or what? Where do I have to pay? He doesn't even know. The cop has no idea what he's saying. So the fact that this guy went to,
Starting point is 01:11:29 and this is going back to Gavin Newsom, the frontrunner for the president of the United States, he goes there and the sanctuary says, you don't even need an ID to vote. You don't even need an ID to vote. You don't even need who, how does that guy, he failed, apparently, Pat, he failed the English proficiency test answering two out of 12 questions, right,
Starting point is 01:11:48 and recognizing just one of four traffic signs. And I think, think, think about it, Gavin let him come in, like, get the license and come here and he killed three people. What, the direction of Ron DeSantis, I would go after Gavin Newsom. I would go after Gavin Newsom. You let somebody come in that came here and killed Floridians. Okay, and what about it? Two and a half million people, this is the worst thing.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Two and a half million Americans are signing a petition to free him. Like, where's the outrage when Americans are murdered or left behind by the freaking government or millions who rally? Like, what are we even talking about? talking about, Tom. How upside down is it that Americans are going after this guy? Well, it's crazy. In other states, he would not have been able to get the Class C license because he didn't have English proficiency or recognize the road signs. Apparently, under whatever testing they do in California, he got the Class C license. So he had a legal license and then
Starting point is 01:12:41 commits what should be in the brain of every truck driver a never do. Like, never, never, never do this, and yet he did it. And, you know, if you're drunk and you do something with your vehicle, it's vehicular manslaughter. So now people are not liking that Florida is saying this is vehicular manslaughter. This is gross negligence resulting, not in property damage, but death. And in other states, you wouldn't even have a Class C license because you wouldn't pass the proficiency. Hey, what do these 10 signs mean, which is really important. And so that's what I think is shocking. Part one. And part two, I share with you, is what? What do these people think they're protesting signing this petition?
Starting point is 01:13:22 What are exactly they protesting? Oh, let him go? Yeah, that's it. Let them go. Vehicular manslaughter or isn't manslaughter? What are they signing? Why do they think that this guy needs the help of public opinion in the form of a petition? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Like, I get it. Okay, probably a nice guy. He seems pretty nice, but you didn't. He had no business having a freaking class C license, Tom. And here's the question. Is it a company that gives it? or just the state of California? No, the state of California. Like you get a driver's license and there's motorcycle license.
Starting point is 01:13:54 There's also Class C license to drive a school bus. Drive this. There's levels of licenses. The state gives it to you. And if he had one from California, he either got it legally or something got finagled, then he got the license. If you're in the transportation business and you see the story, you're shitting bricks right now. Because the people that you're hiring as truck drivers, if you don't do that additional background check and find out who's driving your truck and you're doing 22 million year or 80 million year or 228 million year and they pull your license as a company you're screwed
Starting point is 01:14:30 oh you're closed yeah you're closed guess what hundreds of jobs are gone i get a manette this morning by guy that asked me specifically about compliance he's trying to sell his business for 70 million But the industry he's in is becoming hardcore compliant. And he's like, what do I do with the compliance side of my business? I'm going through it, et cetera, et cetera. And my response to him was very simple. I'm scaling a multimillion-dollar operation, scale into $70 million. My hurdle is that our industry is heavily regulated compliance has shifted from
Starting point is 01:15:03 being a back office function to the single biggest driver to carry your relationship and valuation. Everything is going into compliance now. When that happened to our business, and I saw that taking place in 2012, 2013, when the CEO of multiple insurance companies were being grilled by Elizabeth Warren, and I said, yep, we got to make the big, 2011. I brought the best compliance folks, everybody in. If you're a business owner in transportation and that business is a little bit of a gray business, you best get your compliance together ASAP. I talk to a lot of guys in the transportation business. You best make that investment to compliance ASAP
Starting point is 01:15:42 and double verify that person being a legal driver. Don't just do because you're going to make more money. You could save $500 ends up costing you tens of millions of dollars. Make that additional investment for your compliance. Adam, your thoughts on this story. Yeah, it sucks that this happening here in Florida because, Pat, as you always say, bad policies have consequences, elections have consequences.
Starting point is 01:16:02 These are, unfortunately, some of the consequences of bad policies. in California. So this this guy, his name is what? Harjinder Singh? You know, he came in through the Mexico border. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he's not naturally born
Starting point is 01:16:20 Mexican citizen. He's probably not from Venezuela or he's probably not from El Salvador. I'm assuming Mr. Singh, S-I-N-G-H, is Sikh or Punjabi or Indian. And to be frank, seems like a nice guy just trying to make a living,
Starting point is 01:16:36 drive a truck, but unfortunately he's been granted access to drive recklessly on the streets of America under no accountability of thanks to Gavin Newsom out there. And I don't even know if speaking English as a requirement to drive trucks or even to get a driver's license in this country, believe me, all my Uber's, 2% of them actually speak English here in Miami, Cuban, Venezuelan, Colombian, there's no English when they're driving the Uber. But to drive a truck? a truck
Starting point is 01:17:06 on the highway that's a whole different level to me I tell you there's there's a part of that you know overregulation
Starting point is 01:17:17 under regulation where is the right part there has to be driving I'd be on the side of overregulation I don't know about overregulation I think it's the right healthy amount of regulation
Starting point is 01:17:30 you don't want to put a chokehold as well because if these guys are not driving You don't have gifts for family. You don't have AC. You don't have a lot of different things that's being moved. I just think you need to write appropriate compliance. Part of it is regulated by the state. Part of it is a federal thing because let's just say I run a transportation company out of L.A.
Starting point is 01:17:47 But I'm driving to Florida and back. I'm a national. Officially my compliance is no longer just in the states. I'm national. It's a federal thing, right? Then, so it's got federal, statewide, and then I have to deal with certain things as a company. I don't know. I just, this concerns the hell out of me
Starting point is 01:18:07 because that could be you. So imagine you're driving the car. Somebody calls you. For a split second, you look down to check the phone. You're reading the text. Everybody does it. You look up. You're dead.
Starting point is 01:18:19 That's what happened to that van. You know who that can happen to? Anybody that can happen to. All of us. All of us. The first thing I think about. This is why, on Menect, I'm happy now because finally people can ask me questions in audio.
Starting point is 01:18:32 you know intentionally I asked for that I asked for that request because now 30 seconds somebody can ask you a question in audio we can hear your voice so we can be boom boom boom respond instead of reading and responding back to it's a very slippery slope and man
Starting point is 01:18:47 my heart breaks for that family of three that we're not expecting anything to be done that said you will never see that brother that sister that father that cousin that best friend you'll never see them again it's over all those memories gone this. So, heartbreaking. I don't like to see things like this that's taking place. Anyways,
Starting point is 01:19:08 let's go to the next story that I'm going to, let me see what story I got here. So Chinese 600,000. So Trump opens up the door to 600,000 Chinese students amid Beijing trade talk. So first, Trump threatens 200% tariffs on China over a key part that shut down U.S. car plans. Okay, so this is straight up the same day he's doing this. is, he's doing the other side. He says, Trump says, if I wanted to destroy China, I would, but I want to have a great relationship with them. Rob, I know, I just called you Xi Rob.
Starting point is 01:19:41 If we have a couple of these clips, I want to go through it. Is this one, I want to have a good relationship with them? This is the 200% tariffs. I also have that one as well. Okay, so let's go with the 200% tariffs, and we'll go through these, and we'll react. But we have a very strong relationship, Howard, I would say you, economically with China now getting much better. They have to give us magnets, if they don't give us magnets,
Starting point is 01:20:03 and then we have to charge them 200% tariff for something, you know. But we're not going to have a problem, I don't think, with that. We've, I think that's perhaps behind us. You know, China intelligently went and they sort of took a monopoly of the world's magnets, and nobody needed magnets until they convinced everybody 20 years ago. Let's all do magnets. There were many other ways that the world could have gone. But so it'll take us probably a year to have them.
Starting point is 01:20:29 We're heavy into the world of magnets now, only from a national security standpoint. But we have a powerful thing. It's airplane parts, they have many Boeing jets. You know, they have 200 jets that didn't fly. And I've sent them all, based on his word, I sent them all of the parts so their planes can fly. I could have them back. I didn't do that because of the relationship I have. And their planes are now flying.
Starting point is 01:20:57 You know, we had 200 of their planes were unable to fly because we were not giving them Boeing parts purposely because they weren't giving. You can pause it right there. So he's doing this. He's doing the Trump negotiation thing. The Magnus, they convinced. I hope they don't do that. We'll see if they don't, 200% tariffs. We don't want to do that.
Starting point is 01:21:15 We want to have a good relationship. And this is what? This is him and Xi. This is where he says he could destroy China. In front of them. We're going to have a great relationship with China. I mean, it's happening. You see it.
Starting point is 01:21:25 It's happening. What's cool? They have some cards We have incredible cards But I don't want to play those cards If I played those cards That would destroy China I'm not going to play those cards
Starting point is 01:21:35 It's so typical of Trump The only guy's sitting right there Tom You saw the face The other guy The other guy's just like So Tom Three things here
Starting point is 01:21:45 600,000 Chinese students Rob do you have that one That's this one right here Go ahead, keep going President Xi would like me to come to China It's a very important relationship As you know, we're taking a lot of money in from China because of the tariffs and different things.
Starting point is 01:22:02 It's a very important relationship. We're going to get along good with China. I hear so many stories about we're not going to allow their students. We're going to allow their students to come in. We're going to allow, it's very important, 600,000 students. It's very important. But we're going to get along with China. But it's a different relationship that we have.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Tom, three topics. Specifically China relationship, 600,000 students, 200% tariffs. Thoughts on this? So first of all, the president's making nothing signed, and the president is trying to set the table to have a relationship with China or to have some kumbaya here to get to the real meat. This is just the order of it's in the salad. The meat of the meal is the big-time trade deal and what's going on. And Magnets is one of the key items.
Starting point is 01:22:47 That's why he's bringing it up. Chips is one of the others. Security for Taiwan is one of the others. So there is a big negotiation coming up. Step one, make everybody feel good. However, in one of these steps, 600,000 students coming to the U.S., China has been trying to get more students here as part of their cradle-to-the-grave spy program. And so it seemed to me that if we suddenly open the doors to 600,000 Chinese students, good grief. They buy up land next to our military bases.
Starting point is 01:23:21 They're buying up farmland. It seems to me that this particular item, I want to see the fine print PBD, but it would concern me that you're basically giving them the ability to say, oh, these 600,000 students, but some of them are obviously spy plans. And so that makes me kind of nervous because I know what he's trying to do. Relationship first, where he got a good relationship, get some parts for airplanes, step one, get the big trade deal, but along the way, this to me just seems very... The 600 makes you uncomfortable?
Starting point is 01:23:56 Yeah, it makes me damn uncomfortable because they're trying to get here. Do you think that is one of the chips that China is putting in here that in order for them to agree to X, Y, Z, you have to allow 600,000 of our students to come to you, they get trained here, and then come back to China? Do you think that's one of China's important asks? I think so. Okay. Because I know that Xi thinks long. I know. China thinks long term. We only have three and a half years left with President Trump.
Starting point is 01:24:23 And that's a long time for him. But a longer time is these Chinese students in the next 30 years are going to be in politics. They're going to have influence in companies. And they're going to report things back to China. And their loyalty is going to be to possibly them. Would you put that as one of the chips if in return you're able to get Panama Canal? Let's process that. You're representing Trump. I'm representing China. Hey, Tom, we will allow the C.K. Hutchinson deal to go through, and that's going to give you the Panama Canal, okay, which is a big risk for us. Someone would even say it's a greater risk. But in return, you have to allow me to have 600,000 students of ours to come to US and be educating your country. I would do that deal, and I'll tell you why. Because I get the canal done, and then I get my people and Panama's people and the joint military exercise there, so now it's secure. And then later, I can filter and I can put restrictions on who's coming in and I can do monitoring.
Starting point is 01:25:24 So if it's canal first and then everything else, I can always change the immigration status and the observation, my surveillance later. Vinnie. I have a problem with it. I have a huge, huge problem. And I get the tactical business negotiation standpoint. But that 600 students from China is not America first. $600,000, my bad. 600,000 is not. Let's not forget
Starting point is 01:25:49 China, I hate the word adversary. I know everybody wants to tell us that it's Russia and Israel. No, no. China is our number one enemy. Period. To me, end of story. Okay, this is the same country that unleashed COVID. Still not one piece of accountability.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Tom, you nailed it. Stealing all of our stuff. Buying land next to all of our military bases, which I'm happy that they freaking finally banned. This news just came out. Buying farmland, sending spot. over with a crop contamination to try to ruin our agriculture this just came out today Chinese doctor
Starting point is 01:26:21 accused of stealing confidential U.S. funded cancer research now you're going to let in 600,000 of these students and Tom just students and I know he said he might he's going to vet them and stuff you can't really trust them I can't and by the American kids can't afford college okay our kids
Starting point is 01:26:37 are drowning in debt all this is happening and you're going to give over half a million of these kids no I don't like that pat they've been robbing us for decades I think America first is America first. Not China, not G, not Gavin Newsom, when this guy comes to freaking San Francisco, you toss out all the homeless people and wave Chinese flags, not American flags. I'm not with it at all, bro.
Starting point is 01:26:58 And I get, everybody's always like, you're supposed to, you love Trump. No, no, no, I'm calling him up. I don't like it. Put, you know, yesterday we're having a conversation. I was obviously joking. And I said there's the emotional voter. There is the logical vote. voter, okay? And we all first start off with which one?
Starting point is 01:27:18 Emotion. All of us. By the way, just me more than anybody. No, not you. I'm just saying every one of us, okay? One of the things that, what is the benefit of being a comedian? We emotionally fall in love with you. Like I have emotionally fall in love with when I sat in my bed and I'm showing all the clips to Jen, 30 clips back to back to back and I'm laughing my house off. I'm in the office. I'm like, this guy's freaking good. I love this guy. I've never met you in my life. I don't know who you are. I didn't even know there was an Assyrian comedian. Then you come in and then we said, and then the relationship logically is like this could actually turn into something, right? Okay. Think, put a business
Starting point is 01:27:56 hat on. Even though you've not been in business, you're making more money than you've ever made before in your life. So it's a special month, half a million, I know what's coming, all this stuff that you're doing, right? You're actually finally making real money for yourself. Okay. So you have the offer. I'm asking to represent America long-term threats. You're You're saying China's long-term threat. You're trying to negotiate with this country and get them to do certain things they typically wouldn't do.
Starting point is 01:28:23 You have one of two choices. You want me to approve the C.K. Hutchinson to allow BlackRock and whoever to buy it so it's a U.S. owned property, the Panama Canal, massive, the 43 ports, very important. You have to allow me to send 600,000 students to be able to get educated in your country. Go to the school.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Which of those two is more important to you? The Hutchinson thing, so that means I would, if the only thing to get, get that done was the 600, you'd have to do it on a business standpoint. But do you know why, though? Do you know why, though? So do you remember when all of a sudden, like, we couldn't get chips for cars? You'd go to a Rolex store. They don't have any watches. You'd go to stores. There's nothing. Used cars were selling more than brand new cars because you just couldn't find anything, right?
Starting point is 01:29:04 That's because there was no access to supply. What if all of a sudden China's like, oh, really? No problem. Close the canal. Now what? slow things down 30 days give a headache to US now what do you do now you have to go 14,000 miles instead of 9,000 miles now you have to go all the way down and come up versus boom boom come up right
Starting point is 01:29:26 I think what we don't know that's being negotiated behind closed doors we don't know what are the 20 things that are on the table we don't know and you have to decide for yourself negotiating on behalf of America is there's no way I'm giving up these five things.
Starting point is 01:29:44 These five things, I can't have them believe we'll give them up. But we'll say we'll think about it. But already in your mind, you're like what? We'll give them up, no prompt. But these five things we have to get. What are these five things? These five things are da-da-da-da-da. I think that's kind of where they're at.
Starting point is 01:29:57 And I don't like the $600,000. Makes me extremely uncomfortable. But if we're giving that up to get three things that are going to protect us more long term for another black swan event to happen by China, I'm more interested in that. Adam thoughts. So I just have a question. question for you and then i'll make my point you know how we do the star system which stands for what systems
Starting point is 01:30:17 tech action or relationships is that the four people who are structured like tom structurally organized people who are technical like tom people who are action oriented competitive psycho competitors and in our relationship people you're in r you're a relationship guy yeah i'm also somewhat of an s guy what do you think trump is a all the way a is trump is a first I would probably put his I would put A first I would put probably S and R second T last I agree
Starting point is 01:30:55 You know why S? Look at the way he dresses Look at the way he likes glasses to be set When he's doing a video He is so organized And that needs things to be done in a certain way He's a he's a maniacal S But his A is an aggressive A Yeah I actually agree with you
Starting point is 01:31:10 The reason I ask that is because he's go go go go Go, go, go, go, go. You know, they were playing a video the other day of him falling asleep when he got to, I think, Saudi. It's like, all right, after traveling for 15 hours, the guy does sleep. But I think we can all appreciate how hard this guy works. I also agree with you that he's got a system of structure. But I would say that Trump is a big relationship guy. And if you're nice to him, he'll be nice to you.
Starting point is 01:31:33 If you're mean to him, he'll be mean to you. That's pretty basic with Trump. He said nice things about me, Kim Jong-un, so now we're best friends. We understand that right there. so with this relationship with China who was at some higher person in the Communist Party that came here wasn't she obviously right
Starting point is 01:31:48 that he was meeting with Trump will say the exact opposite things about you in the same sentence I love this guy I'll kill him in a second if I have to but I don't want to have to do that I wouldn't do that love you but I hate you doesn't matter he could be your best friend or he can be your worst enemy he's a deal maker
Starting point is 01:32:05 and he's a transactional so Shane Gillis did a great impression of Trump, when he was on S&L, and it was like Trump doing the dating game. He's like, I think you're hot. I think you're great. And she goes, no, I'm not interested. You're ugly. You're disgusting.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Why would I ever? He'll turn on you real quick. So if you want to play Trump, like if you actually want to do a deal with Trump, you kind of have to kiss his butt. This is why we see these world leaders. Like when he goes to Saudi, they put up a portable McDonald's, right? Okay, obviously pandering to Trump. Qatar gave the guy a plane. right um the uk when kira kira stormer came over here there he's like i mean this is very special
Starting point is 01:32:48 and we're giving you a free night's day at buckingham palace like nobody gets this he's like well thank you the guy from south africa he came over and he's like uh we gave you a book about golf you could see in trump's face he's kind of just like i'd be happy with a golf course not a book but trump is very transactional and he's relationship driven totally get it but i mean Look, the reality of it is we don't have a clue what's going on behind closed doors and what's being negotiated. By the way, breaking news just came about Turkey, furious
Starting point is 01:33:18 with the fact that Netanyahu finally recognized the Armenian genocide. The story just dropped right now. So let me give you an idea what happened yesterday on the podcast with Dibi, Prime Minister Netanyahu, and the conversations that we had. There's a lot of topics.
Starting point is 01:33:32 I wish we had two hours. I had a lot of things that I wanted to go through with them. This is specifically the part where I asked him about the Armenian, the Assyrian, and the Greek genocide. And here's what you have to say. Go ahead, Rob. You know, the Holocaust has been recognized by 193 different countries, right? Everybody around the world. And in some countries, if you denied, you could do jail time, many countries.
Starting point is 01:33:54 You can do jail time a year or five years. But for anybody that doesn't recognize Armenian-Assyrian genocide, if there's any country that I would have expected to be on the list that recognized the Armenian and the Syrian and the Greek genocide, it would be Israel. Why haven't you yet recognized the Armenian, Assyrian, and the Greek genocide that the Turkish did to that community?
Starting point is 01:34:20 In fact, I think we have, because I think the Knesset passed a resolution to that effect. I don't know if it's come from you, though. I don't know if it's come from the Prime Minister of Israel. Yeah, I just did. Okay. Here you go. All right.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Well, thank you for doing that. Boom. Okay, thank you for doing that. I appreciate you. That's important to me. and I'm sure a lot of Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks around the world appreciate you saying that. So that happened yesterday at the end of the podcast with the limited time that we had left. Armenians around the world reacted.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Assyrians, even Greeks, there's government official Twitter accounts of all countries have posted on what happened with this. So it's official. They finally recognized, you know, the Assyrian-Armenian genocide as an event that took place. Great. Now, you know, when you do something like that, for many years, Turkey and Israel have had a decent relationship, you know? And Israel's even sold weapons, I think, and helped Azerbaijan. Yes. Azerbaijan's a direct, like, you know, the stuff that they did with Nagorno, Garabakh, Arzac, this is not a friendly relationship that this was going on. For them to take this position, automatically it shows that that relationship with Turkey is not what it once used to be.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Now, this is obviously due to Erdogan. Rob, can you pull up the store because I can't see anything here right now. There you go. Turkey slams Netanyahu for politically motivated recognition of Armenian genocide. This is Times of Israel. If you can go a little bit lower, Turkey rejects remarks by Prime Minister Netanyahu. Yes, it had recognized in the genocide. If you can click on a link and go back to it, yeah, click on that.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Just go back to the story. In first, Netanyahu says he recognizes the Armenian genocide. So first, the story was written this morning at midnight. Go back to that. This was written this morning at midnight, 1223 a.m. Go a little bit lower that the prime minister did this, et cetera, et cetera. I think we have. I think the Knesset passed a resolution to that effect,
Starting point is 01:36:15 though no such legislation has been passed into a lot. Pressed on why Israel Prime Minister Nanyahu response, I just did, here you go. Okay, so now go back to the story previous to that with Turkey. So this is the story, if you can allow me to read it. There you go. Nanyahu Remox concerning of the events of 1915, and these ads suck on this weapon.
Starting point is 01:36:35 I'm like, let it go, buddy. We're not going to buy it. Okay. 1950 and our attempt to exploit past tragedies for political motives, writes Ankara, foreign minister and Turkish language statements saying we condemn and reject the statement, which is incompatible with historical and illegal facts. Turkey repeats his accusation that Israel is carrying out of genocide and Gaza Strip saying that now who is on trial for his role in the genocide committed against the Palestinian people
Starting point is 01:36:59 is attempting to cover up the crimes committed by himself and his government. So now, this story here, starting Uruguayan, France, Germany, Canada, Russia, and United States have recognized the Armenian Genocide, but Israel has long avoided this step, though a number of senior politicians have called for the move in recent years. Netanyahu's remarks the first time in Israel, prime minister, has done so, likely reflect increasingly poor ties with Turkey, which has long rejected the characterization. Turkish president Erdogan has repeatedly compared Israel to Nazi Germany over its war. against Hamas and Gaza. So that's the story that we have there. Now, messaging that came in from Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks, Armenians. I don't care if he does this. I don't care what's going on. I don't want to hear nothing from him.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Okay, Armenians. Oh, my God, emotional. Can't believe this finally took place. This is so insane that this is finally happening. We're so happy for you. Thank you. We appreciate you. Achoni, all this.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Yakhpar, all these messages that are coming. Greeks messaging me saying, dude, I don't even know that you knew that Greeks were involved. We appreciate you for doing that because if you look at the history, Rob, can you pull up that one thing I sent to Adam yesterday? The picture that he just sent it to me. Yeah, if you can zoom in in this one, the list of genocides organized by Turkey for the last 200 years. And some of the stuff, you can go verify the numbers. I don't know if it's 100% accurate with the numbers. So you got Greece, you got 50,000, 8750, that's 1823, continues with Mosul, Assyrians, 10,000, goes lower, Armenians.
Starting point is 01:38:32 1400, 1250, Bulgaria, 147, Lebanon, 12,000. All this goes, okay, Armenia, Armenia, Armenia, Armenian, go to the top right, okay, over here, Macedonia, 14,000, Sassoon, Armenian, 5,600, Adana, 1909, 1909, Western Armenia, 1.5 million. Greece, 150,000, cars, 100,000, Pontus, 1919, 600,000, Mesopotomia, Assyrians, 750,000,000 is what these guys did, right? that till today, they don't want to recognize. So I understand that there's a community that really doesn't want to hear anybody because a lot of folks, Vinny, what was your reaction when this happened? When he sat there and said, as an As an Assyrian, it was such a mind, because think about it, and can I just say something too, for all the people out there, and guess what,
Starting point is 01:39:24 Pat, there's no making everybody happy and we understand that, no matter what you do. If you ask this, this side's going to be furious. If you didn't ask this, the other side's going to get furious. And everybody wants to play a Monday, Monday day quarterback, Monday morning quarterback. What I was like, listen, A, we had, how long was the time? 40 minutes. 40 minutes. But initially it was you were only going to be allowed 30, but this guy, he was going.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Nope, this is what I had to respect. No calling of you have to ask this. You can't ask this. You can't do this. It was, we're going to go live and we're going to ask whatever we want. Okay. And in all fairness, we did research. We looked at every other podcast.
Starting point is 01:40:00 he's been asked every question that you the majority of the other side wanted a thousand times you wanted to ask a certain amount of questions the fact that he recognized it and it's never been recognized look at these numbers and i'm assyrian okay 750 000 assyrians and then over there in mosul another 10 000 again in 1892 3500 assyrians murdered okay murdered and i think that moment and adam was there we're all back here in that back room, it was a moment of shock because the interview was coming to an end. You went past the 30 and I was like, is he
Starting point is 01:40:36 even going to be able to ask this? And when you asked it and there was zero hesitation, I think even who was the Armenian guy today, Pat, Saco. I saw him on the video. Sacco made a video and how happy and it's like, guys, anything to getting closer to the truth I think is amazing. And for a see, my mom
Starting point is 01:40:53 called and she's like, I can't believe that he actually made him say it out of his words because the initial was the what? The Knesset recognizing, but when you said, no, no, you haven't done it. I think it's holding his foot to the fine. I loved it. Well, I'll just be complete full disclosure here. We did a prep to discuss the interview with Patrick and Beebe, and we were all deciding
Starting point is 01:41:14 on topics we want to go over. And I said, Pat, what is your ultimate goal for doing the podcast? And, you know, you talk about we all have our biases. You know, Pat said very selfishly, I have one goal. I want BB Netanyahu to recognize the Armenian. genocide straight up and then from there we can talk iran we can talk gaza we can talk united states we can talk apak but that was your goal and i respect the hell out of that uh because you're armenian and you're arsyrian so and i said to you i have a assumption that he might go along with this
Starting point is 01:41:47 why because what's been preventing this is their relationship with turkey and turkeys in nato and there's alliances but here's what we know about alliances and enemies yesterday's enemies can become today's allies You know, the friend of a friend is an enemy, an enemy of an enemy is a friend. Alliances these days aren't necessarily about love. It's about survival and leverage. And that's what's going on in the world. So you have Erdogan right here, who's basically calling Israel a genocidal regime. And usually when someone's saying things like that, they fail to look in the mirror.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Because if you look at these stats here from Turkey on the forgotten World War, World War I, everyone's obviously focused on World War II. how many million people died in the Armenian-Arsyrian-Greek genocide? Millions? We don't talk about this. World War I is sort of a forgotten war. Everyone focuses on World War II, and I understand why Jews are very sensitive about the Holocaust, six million Jews.
Starting point is 01:42:42 But the world of geopolitics is a world place that we're seeing, and this is what's incredible about what we're doing here at Valuetainment. We're not just watching the world change. We're actually effectuating change. We're seeing articles. Patrick Bet David interviews Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Benjamin Netanyahu
Starting point is 01:43:00 admits to acknowledges Armenian genocide. What? You know, you always say things like, look, we're just business guys doing a podcast here. But the reality is you saw
Starting point is 01:43:13 a place in the market that was open for real conversations. We saw on the left it was weird and woke and ideologically corrupt. We saw on the right that there's a lot of people who are
Starting point is 01:43:25 people that are basically distasteful and not exactly a welcoming of immigrants but we're having conversations with people. I want to say a couple things on this. A couple things I want to say on this is, you know, what I shared last night, I took screenshots. I want you to read a couple of these messages
Starting point is 01:43:43 that was sent to me yesterday. On X. On X, yeah. I want you to, like, this is the kind of stuff that can you put the camera on Vinny to get his reaction? Okay, these are the types. of DMs I got last night.
Starting point is 01:43:59 Lechri, actually read it to yourself. Okay. I mean, there's no, I wouldn't be able to say that out loud. I can't even, I don't even want to read this. It's disgusting, right? I don't even want to put this out. I don't even want to put this out. But you know what it is?
Starting point is 01:44:15 And this is times 100, okay? And so for me, it's funny. Because I'm not one that is, you know, sitting here trying to side here, side there. This is my position where I stand. I lived in Iran. I saw what happened. You're not going to be able to change my mind. That's where I'm at, okay? And, you know, Israel's got 15 million people. These other guys got a couple billion people. These guys have access to a lot more power and bots and influence than these guys. It's just, they're going to be louder. You can't help it. So they're going to be able to show as if this
Starting point is 01:44:47 is a better argument than this. Good luck winning that argument, 15 million to 2 billion. It's not 10x the size. It's 158. 140x, the size is a difference. They're 140 times bigger if you compare to two, okay? That's the audience, 130, 140 times bigger. So you can't be naive and not realize, oh, my God, but look, that person's getting this many more retweets. And they got, what is the word?
Starting point is 01:45:11 They got, there's a phrase that if somebody puts a tweet below you and they get more, you know, ratio. Ratio. They got ratio, because I'm something. Yeah, of course that's going to happen. You think if I'm on that side, I'm not going to put a million bots to work. There's places you can. there's businesses for this.
Starting point is 01:45:26 But if I have someone on that Israelist viewers, like let's just say if I have Nick Fontes on, you know what Israelis are going to say? So disappointed in you, you know, I can't believe you sold out. I can't believe you did this. They're going to say those types of things, okay? And maybe even try to actually get the interview to be flagged.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Okay? Like when we had Tommy Robinson on the next, story came out from the Times. I don't have, you have the story wrapped up in the Times. the Times could type in Tommy Robinson to Times of Menecht, okay? So they did a massive story the Times, okay, with the story.
Starting point is 01:46:02 They came, I don't know if people know this or not. Instagram blocked a Menect account from being able to run ads for a year because of this time story. Tommy Robinson charging $20 a minute out of personal coach to the far right, the self-style anti-Islam activist, and this is from UK.
Starting point is 01:46:17 They reached out directly to Facebook to have this happen a minute. Go a little bit low, Rob, if you can go through it. Now, obviously, our lawyers reached out. Everything's getting scored away. But if you go a little bit lower, the attacks they put, they created a fake account on Meneck to ask him questions and videos. And if you watch every single one of the videos,
Starting point is 01:46:36 there is nothing that he says that's anything major. Our lawyers watch it. Everybody watch it. Go all the way down. And he talks about me and Patrick Bitt David, the founder of Meneck, and he's doing this. They're sharing all the Menex publicly, right? Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:51 So the UK woke audience. wants to get you canceled, okay? Then you got Israel, those, they may want to get you canceled, but when you say anything that you have Netanyahu on, they want to kill you. Messages like, we're going to find you in the streets and see what we're going to do to you. Who the hell talks like that?
Starting point is 01:47:13 Who talks like that? You think a 22-year-old kid learn how to talk like that, or you think his parents talk like that? You think the guy's father talks like that. Who talks like that at the church? You don't talk like that to somebody, but that's the common thing. So last time when everything's done, we're talking about it, I'm asking you guys, here's what I want to do tonight.
Starting point is 01:47:30 I went on Twitter, Rob, if you can go on Twitter, and this is what I did. I said the following. This is my style guys. I said, I'm officially done for the day. Kids are asleep. Tico went to sleep. We're having a great conversation together. I said, ask me any respectful questions about today's interview at PM Netanyahu.
Starting point is 01:47:46 I'll answer any questions for the next 30 minutes fire away. I went about an hour. Let's go through some of the questions, Rob, if you can show the bottom. So how much did they pay you directly or indirectly zero, not offered, no receive? We haven't taken any sponsorship money for two years. That's right. Both sides like to make claims that influencers get money from Qatar or Mossad. Just argue the ideas and don't be lazy to so money is related.
Starting point is 01:48:06 It's money related. Go to the next one. Patrick, respect for taking a direct time. Gut level questions, you've grilled CEOs for one bad quarter. Net Nail has that three decades of quarters, which any result surprises, fresh body counts. Rob, can you please press a show more fix? So here's the scale peeler. If a future leak shows the idea fat heart, real-time drone footage is Bernardino 347, October 7 and still waited six hours to scramble. Will you book the PM again?
Starting point is 01:48:31 Look him dead in the eye and make this recite timestamps. That's serious. No gotcha tone. You gave me him stage. I'm asking if you'll hold the stage. Okay, here's what I said. That was a question that I wanted to ask, but Trigger Pod did a good job asking it a week ago. So I didn't see a point in asking the same question.
Starting point is 01:48:45 Twice. Thanks for being respectful. Great. Next. Why do you think all the people who tout just. ask questions are trying to cancel you for literally conducting an interview and asking questions. I think X isn't for everyone. I don't blame people for getting emotional whenever an interview is done with Prime Minister Beebe, but I prefer respectful exchange like the one we're having so
Starting point is 01:49:04 far. He's an actual genocidal and we'll go down in history books as such. Do you feel dirty having hitched your name to this? Not at all. I understand the sensitivity with an act of war that's taking place with many innocent lives being taken. Can't stand seeing any of it. Next, Let BB know there's a ton of people worldwide that support him. And I said, I believe he knows that, but they're losing the digital climate to their opposition. Unfavorability rate is very high, according to Pew Research. Why give him the platform?
Starting point is 01:49:32 What are the advantages of that? I'm not one that goes to sleep worrying about who I give the platform to and who I don't. I talk to people I'm interested in. This isn't the first time nor the last time people don't like. I guess I have on. There will be many more. Why don't you ask him if you would debate opposition like Nick Fon, and why don't you press him? Were you intimidated? I said, I've expressed my feeling about
Starting point is 01:49:53 Nick and others. Their approach causes high-stakes situations downs to not happen. No one wants to sit down with someone who they know won't have a respectful conversation. He's too capable and talented to use certain words that he does. I think Nick even responded to that. Go in that to see if he jumped into that one or not. Okay, so then go back. Maybe it's a different one. Rob, if you can go back Okay, as a Christian, as a Christian, how could you do that? Do you have children? It's painful to see how ugly this was. I lived in Tehran from 78 to 89, saw a ton of things the kids should never see.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Breaks my heart and would love to see the whole thing be done. Unfollow, I'll block to make things easier for you. That was my favorite. I keep going lower. Does he think his approval rating will improve with Hamas defeat? I'm not sure he's concerned with that. I believe he sees himself as someone that was put on the earth to finish a job on BFS people agree or disagree. That's how I view his role. Let's see. What else is there? Was anything
Starting point is 01:50:49 unrestricted? Nothing was restricted. Anything else? Any other? Even Nick responded. If there's a Nick responded, I wouldn't even mind reading his if you can find it. Maybe it's lost in a few thousand comments. Anyways, so the point is, you know, I want to have this more often. I don't think X is for everybody. I literally don't think X is for everybody. I think X is a place where a lot of people get, oh, let's see it right there. Okay, so here we go. You platform Tate and use the same kind of language. Anyone who has seen my interviews knows I'm cordial and respectful, including on your own network with Adam. It's your proactive, but I don't think anyone is buying this excuse. And they're great to see here. Tate is half black, half white. His father's black. I
Starting point is 01:51:32 believe you're white and Hispanic. He's talking about the N-Word. I may be wrong. By the way, you are cordial in interviews. Adam actually said that. However, you do get carried away post-interview at times when you react. And then is there a follow-up there? Is that it? Maybe that's it. No, okay, it seems like the goalpost is moving. Now the issues that I'm using the N-word and my reaction. Not necessarily. I actually wouldn't mind sitting down and having a conversation with him.
Starting point is 01:51:55 I'm just telling, yeah, what I'm saying to him is he's capable. He's able to improve these words. He doesn't need to do it. He would be able to put himself in platforms to debate. This approach doesn't allow you to be wider. It gets you on the smaller, younger guys. But if you want wider, somethings need to change. in words. What's the chances of a couple of those guys sitting in front rock? By the way,
Starting point is 01:52:18 even when I sat down with Thomas Russo, how respectful was that guy the way he spoke? Rob, how would you put him in the level of the way he's spoken? You think I sit there and I support the Patriot Front? No, but the guy spoke in a very interesting, respectful way. We had a great conversation together. I'm very comfortable talking to anybody. I grew up in the streets. I'm not uncomfortable with it. But for those who enjoyed it, Awesome. For those who didn't and would never want to follow up seeing the interview, there's a few things that BB said that he's never said before. One, when asked about Trump, would the war, would the Hamas attack happen without if Trump was the president? That's one. Number two is when I asked the question about the finances because their debt to GDP ratio went from 60% to 75, they've spent $130 billion on this.
Starting point is 01:53:14 war. And U.S. only gives them $3.8 billion a year. I think U.S. has given them $30 billion in weapons that they actually have to buy. So it's actually money coming back, that they got the weapons. But for the most part, when you're looking at something like, hey, this debt thing, you know, are you going to come back and ask us for money again? Is that going to be taking place? Tom, what was your thoughts? Because I know you watched the interview apparently a couple times. What was your takeaway? So there's a couple things that that stood out to me that were maybe not directly related only to Beebe. His comments about Biden saying, okay, you can defend yourself on October 7th, but don't go into Rafa. No, I don't want you going into Rafa. And then Blinken
Starting point is 01:53:54 calling him a week later and saying, Anthony Blinken, the real president, calling him and saying, hey, you know, we told you about the embargo, right? We're going to, you're, you're, you can't go in there. And he said, look, we have to do it. If we have to fight with our fingernails, we have to do it. You're not the one that's at war here. You know, you know, it's just, showed how much Biden was kind of out to lunch, and Blinken was really the guy that was in the back there. So I saw that. Also, I didn't know, and I looked it up, where he said, there are Gazans now fighting against Hamas in their own neighborhoods, and we have helped them. And I looked it up. And I'm like, okay, wait a minute, wait a minute. Is this one or two guys? Is this three?
Starting point is 01:54:35 I wanted to see, and guess what? Multiple sources that are not just the Jerusalem Times were saying that they are arming the individual groups that are out there fighting, and that they're helping the clans, like the Abu Shabab clan, giving them weapons, and like hundreds of guys that are in these clans that are trying to fight for their neighborhoods. I didn't know that. And so I think there was a lot of here. You know, I could sit back and, you know, how do you judge BB? How do you not judge BB?
Starting point is 01:55:06 But when I saw this, there were some things that came out there that he said some things I was able to go research, and I was satisfied that there was, you know, truth behind it. Like, I didn't know Ghazans were actually fighting for their own area against Hamas and these clans that are armed. Overall, I thought he was pleasant. I thought he was direct. I thought it was, you know, a good interview. There's only so much you can do in 40 minutes. And the soapbox it is X.
Starting point is 01:55:34 Everybody said, why don't you ask this? What is that? I'm sorry, it wasn't a six-hour miniseries, right? So we can only go so far. It's great to, Rob. This is the one thing I asked him. I don't know if you guys remember about six months ago, four, not three months ago.
Starting point is 01:55:47 We reacted to this clip, and I wonder what he was going to say. Remember when Trump's like, yeah, we're probably just going to take over Gaza ourselves and we're going to do this? So watch this reaction. Go ahead, Rob. You're welcome us. And certainly with your enemies. I want to show you this clip.
Starting point is 01:55:59 This is a clip of you and the president. You guys are standing right next to each other. And you give a look that you almost didn't know he was going to say this. And this is just personally for myself. I'm curious, did you know the president was going to be saying this? Go ahead and play the clip, Rob. As far as Gaza is concerned, we'll do what is necessary. If it's necessary, we'll do that.
Starting point is 01:56:21 We're going to take over that piece. We're going to develop it, create thousands and thousands of jobs. Beautiful jobs. And it will be something that the entire Middle East can be very proud of. But everybody feels that continuing the same process that's gone forever over and over again and then it starts and then the killing starts and all of the other problems start and you end up in the same place and we don't want to see that happen so by the united states with its stability and strength owning it especially the strength that we're developing and developed
Starting point is 01:56:55 over the last fairly short period of time i would say really since the election uh i think will be a great keeper of something that is very very strong very powerful and very very good for the area, not just for Israel for the entire Middle East. It's very important and we'll again have thousands of jobs. Can you pause it? You gave a look where you weren't expecting the president to say that
Starting point is 01:57:19 as if it's going to be our land. Were you surprised by what the president said here? No, actually I wasn't, but I can tell you that he said something else there. He said and that had surprised the world. And I thought, again, he cut to the chase. He said, why
Starting point is 01:57:35 are Ghazans locked in this area which is just used as a base for attack against Israel for its destruction that's what the the fact of Palestinian state in Gaza was it was a base for Israel's destruction it has no other purpose and it lived under this horrible tyranny this terror tyranny of Hamas so he said why not give people a choice I mean in other war theaters in Ukraine or in Syria or in Afghanistan, you know, millions left if they wanted to. In Gaza, they're locked in. Nobody allows them to leave. And he says, give them a choice. If they want to leave, let them leave. And for those who stay, rebuild Gaza. I thought that was actually a very sensible thing.
Starting point is 01:58:21 And it's not our goal now to depopulate Gaza and all these other nonsensees that people say. Our goal is to free Gaza, free it from Hamas. Free it from Hamas, tyranny and terror. And you know, we now have Gazans. I'll bet you don't know this, Patrick. we now have Gazans fighting Hamas and they say thank God you're here they didn't dare do that to the final stages of this they're joining up with Israel Gaza Kenneco on
Starting point is 01:58:46 over Gaza and invest that's a good thing it's not a bad thing so you would be okay if America takes over Gaza and it becomes something that we control you'd be okay with that yeah but it's an American choice you know I don't want to get into that it's a but you would be okay with that
Starting point is 01:59:00 so even if America choose I'd be okay with any governance that civilian governance in Gaza that doesn't teach its children to annihilate Israel doesn't pay for pay terrorists that's what the not the Hamas do
Starting point is 01:59:18 only it's what the Palestinian Authority the other side of the Palestinian people does they pay terrorists the more Jews they kill the more they pay them and doesn't launch them right there so Vinnie can you can you visualize a day where Gaza is a U.S. territory?
Starting point is 01:59:38 Do you see that happening? With Trump, I think anything's possible, honestly. Because like he said, okay, because my thing is this. And by the way, today, and I told Adam, I could get another key fixed, not fixed, but another key, Nate, for my truck. And the guy came out, and he had a star of David.
Starting point is 01:59:54 I'm like, hey, he's like, what do you do here? What are you guys? And I'm like, you know, valutainment. And I told him, I go, dude, we just interviewed Bibian Nanyahu yesterday. And he's like, what? And he showed it to me. I'm like, yeah, like, he's like, yeah, I'm not the big fan.
Starting point is 02:00:08 But he's like, all we care about, he's like, all we care about, the real is, like, the ones that are protesting in the streets, he's like, we just want our people back. He goes, we want our brothers and sisters back from the freaking, the tunnels and then do whatever you want. But if you think about it, if Trump's in during it, because I don't know how long this thing is going to last, I could see America having something to do with it because they want security, right? They want to put in a government that's not going to be Hamas.
Starting point is 02:00:36 But I think if Trump is gone, it's not going to happen. I don't think that they would do it. I just want to know from Patrick Red David. How does it feel to know that you've interviewed Hitler twice? You've interviewed Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu. Double Hitler. Here's out there, Hitlering up. Here's my take on what Bibi, the interview from Bibi.
Starting point is 02:00:57 I've said this many times before. Benjamin Nanyahu is the Trump of the Middle East. least. He doesn't care if you like him or not at this point. He literally doesn't. Just like Trump does it. This might be his last term ever. We'll see. He's the longest standing tenured prime minister of Israel. And much like Trump, he's there to GSD. Get stuff done. So what he's doing right now is sort of combating the lies, the hate, and the propaganda that's been sullied against the one Jewish state, which he kept repeating. But just look at the results. You want to talk about you talk about people just look at the scoreboard just look at the scoreboard uh yeah
Starting point is 02:01:36 approval ratings are down but every single combatant that they've played against has lost iran is weaker syran is uh syria has uh been captured basically they're they're done the the huthies what's going on with them hasbollah has done hamas what's left of gaza and i just i truly think that that bb doesn't care what people think so we can have all the american podcasters and the woke right or the woke left. Criticizers are all as they want, but you know what they have not done? Affectuate zero policy change whatsoever. Trump and Bibi, it would seem, are tighter than ever.
Starting point is 02:02:12 And here's the last point. People are saying, I can't believe you would talk to Bibi Netanyahu. Can't believe you would talk to Tate. Can't believe you would talk to Nick Fonte's. Friends, enemies, get used to one thing here. We're going to have a lot more of these conversations here at Valuetam. I want to, Adam, what you think? Do you think United States would be involved?
Starting point is 02:02:31 with building and policy change and government like leadership putting some like i'm trying to figure out how that would look like if america would go there and build and and make it into something not like Vegas i don't want to like make it like that but make it uh how much drinking well that's what i'm saying is how much involvement you think tom that the united states could have in gaza which i don't know timeline wise like everything comes down to what it's the hostages getting getting back that's their that's the number one reason Israel could keep doing whatever it's doing because of the hostages do you think i think we know anything about trump he'll just throw something out there and see who bites go ahead tom bb used the word
Starting point is 02:03:11 governance and he said but i don't want to get into that that's u.s choice so it's i think at some point in time someone has to be kind of the calming force and this usually happens after natural disaster is not wars um you know you have natural disasters but you also have u.n. peacekeeping forces and things like this to kind of keep people at bay. We have the DMZ that was in North and South Korea. And so the U.S. only has so many territories and there are island territories that we usually ended up kind of assisting economically.
Starting point is 02:03:43 You know, U.S. Virgin Islands, what, St. Thomas, St. John, St. Croix. You got Guam, Puerto Rico. You got a few of these places. Samoa and the one that everybody forgets about, which is the Mariana Islands up there by the Marianas Trench in the Pacific. But those are all things that we did at certain times kind of helping them out. wasn't like this kind of a fracas going on.
Starting point is 02:04:01 But I could see the U.S. with Trump saying, look, we're going to make investment, but we're also going to put some things in place here to be something of a peacekeeping force if you can't determine it yourself. And there is precedent in the Middle East, Egypt and Israel came together on the Sinai Peninsula after, you know, Egypt attacked, and then Israel pushed them all the way back. and further into their land. And so they did come up with a way to kind of create this demilitarized zone. And I think when Beebe says governance,
Starting point is 02:04:39 I think he's welcoming the opportunity of someone like a Trump that says, hey, we'll play a governance role, like get the peace and help get this thing on its feet. But I don't see us governing. You know who I would want to talk outside of BB. I'd love to talk to the leader of Hamas. whoever's there i'm being actually very serious with you i'd love to go to gaza i would love to go to gaza we get protection go to gaza i want to see what's going on there i love to talk to the leadership of egypt and jordan why they're not receiving anybody even trump they some people
Starting point is 02:05:16 said he they begged he begged egypt and jordan to take some Palestinians rob can you verify this from telling the you know the trump asked egypt and jordan to take some Palestinians and they rejected like that is correct who has agreed to take Palestinians Europeans who has agreed oh Macron for them can you go to chat gbt robin just ask that question you just did right there it's much faster yeah who can help you out pat no hang on let me just see it here I got you no one no but because what I want to do is I want to ask who is interviewed the Egyptian leader or Jordanian leader and ask why are you not accepting them I think the Jordanian uh so you
Starting point is 02:05:57 But yes, former president said that he would take in 2000 sick kids at the most. President Trump suggested, did suggest that Jordan, Egypt, taking Palestinians, particularly those from Gaza's suffering. And then what happened? I didn't see the last sentence. Okay, got it. On January, 26, Trump stated that Jordan and Egypt should take him Palestinians from the war over in Gaza, suggesting could be a temporary or long-term solution to the humanitarian.
Starting point is 02:06:18 He emphasized that Gaza was a mess, and I'd love for you to take on more addressing Jordan's King with the appeal. He also remarked that U.S. contribute a significant. aid to both Egypt and Jordan, and although he did not explicitly say he would hold aid, he implied pressure by noting they're going to do it. Jordan, including King Abdullah, the second and foreign minister, firmly rejected the idea, stating that Jordan is for Jordanians, Palestine is proud of Palestinians, and that they oppose the displacement. Egypt similarly rejected the proposal, insisting Palestinians months around or not, equating displacement.
Starting point is 02:06:52 Okay. So have either one of them being interviewed? can we reach out to both of them? Why are you not willing to take Palestinians? Have either one of them done a podcast or an interview or long form on why they don't want to receive them? They're neighbors to them. Why don't you receive them?
Starting point is 02:07:12 I know Europe is saying yes. Why are they not saying yes? It's a valid question. Who else would it be that would be opposing BB there to talk to? Like Vinny, who would you like to see interviewed that opposes Netanyahu. On the world stage, you mean?
Starting point is 02:07:30 Specific in the Middle East. I don't want to talk to anybody else that's not directly impacted by it. I want to talk to people that are there. I mean, that you could? I don't know who's the leader of Hamas right now. That's the point is that Hamas isn't doing interviews. They're not doing podcasts.
Starting point is 02:07:44 They're a terror organization. They will send nobody. They hide their faces and masks. They're not there to give interviews. I got you. If we would want to, that'd be one of them. Who side of the argument would you want to hear, Rini? Who side?
Starting point is 02:07:59 Who side of the argument would you want to hear? Who would you like to see interviewed and ask questions about this? MBS. I was going to say MBS. NBS is with Bibi. Saudi. Can you?
Starting point is 02:08:11 Yeah. In an interview, he, like, Rob, can you ask MBS? What is MBS's position? Does he defend Palestine or is he souting his position on Israel, Palestine, Iran? What position does he take? because MBS does not want what's happening there.
Starting point is 02:08:28 NBS wants peace in the Middle East. He does not like what Iran is doing. Exactly. At all. No, he's not. Firm support of Palestinian for a Palestinian state. MBSS report and emphasis Saudi Arabia will not normalize relations in terms of violence. I recognize
Starting point is 02:08:40 based on 970s, he condemned Israel's God's own reaction and then he changed while he acknowledges Israel's technological advancement, strength, form normalization, MBS is leveraging Saudi Arabia's regional influence, positioning the kingdom as a mediator go a little bit lower after years of rivalry
Starting point is 02:08:56 relations of diplomatic has occurred in March of 2023. No, but recently when he talked about Iran and was condemned. There's a recent interview that happened with MBS about Iran. Yeah. That he does not support what Iran is doing. Because even MBS, he's taking a hit on what's going on in the Middle East. Wendy's most important deal of the day has a fresh lineup.
Starting point is 02:09:21 Pick any two breakfast items for $4. New four-piece French toast sticks, bacon or sausage wrap, biscuit or English muffin sandwiches, small hot coffee, and more. Limited time only at participating Wendy's taxes extra. Well, the thing with MBS, if I may, publicly what they say is a lot different than what he's whispering. Publicly, he's going to stand with Palestinians. He's whispering behind the scenes that he's very...
Starting point is 02:09:46 So MBS. MBS, I mean, like we said... I'd love to go to Gaza, Tom. Erdogan, Turkey. I would love you to sit down and talk. talk to LCC, who is the president of Egypt. Because Egypt had, you go from Sadat to Mubarak, you have a series of presidents there. Yeah, they have their tensions, but that reach the Camp David Peace Accords and their
Starting point is 02:10:09 Coptic Christians managed to live in Egypt with some persecution, but not getting exterminated that I've seen. If there's articles out there to say something different, you know, okay, I'll go that. But Egypt has seemed to be trying to get its place. And so I'd love to see you talk to LCC, say, look, you've built one of the, you sign the Camp David, a peace accords. You have a tradition of detente that's dated back and cooperation, dated back to Anmar Sadat in 1970s, so it's 50 years now. And by the way, Sadat was the only one that supported Mohammed Azapalavid to live there when it was in exile. Yep.
Starting point is 02:10:49 And Sadat then paid a cost for. for it politically. He was assassinated in his own country. President Jimmy Carter went and walked the exact place where he was assassinated and broke down and cried there. And I'd love you to see LCC, say, look, you get this big wall, but you got this history of kind of cooperation. Why not one? And you've built, when you talk about building walls, you're at the Olympic level, man. You guys have built a wall. You know what? I'd love to do that, Rob. Can we put that to the list. I'd love to go to Egypt and see if we can speak with LCC. Yeah, I just want to see what is the position of some of the people. And any, by the way,
Starting point is 02:11:31 anybody else that's watching this right now, you have any other recommendations, go to Meneck's circle. By the way, that Meneck Circle grew by a thousand yesterday just to see Tom doing the pushing the weights. If you guys didn't see Tom doing the pushing of 135 pounds and who did more Vinny, Adam, we went through the whole thing, go to Meneck Circle, make any of the recommendation There's three tiers. There's a free meme that you just get the notes and see what's going on. There's a second tier where you get to comment
Starting point is 02:11:56 and network with others. And number three is you can do video, anything else you want to do the full package. But go to the next circle and let us know if you have any recommendations on who you'd like to see us interview. Next on this specific topic, I'd like this thing to stop,
Starting point is 02:12:09 but I also think a lot of people are confused because all they see is, you know, where this, it's such an easy country to hate. It is such an easy country to hate. And the attention doesn't go to what China is doing to Muslims. The attention doesn't go to what's going on in Syria. The attention doesn't go to different places. It's mainly the attention goes to this country.
Starting point is 02:12:33 You're saying Israel's a country. It's constant. Yeah, I mean, the same. Why do you think that is, though, Pat? Because I have an opinion here. Tell me. I'm not sure if you've read your DMs, but the death threats are, they're growing every single day.
Starting point is 02:12:45 So let me give the flip side. I can totally understand why Americans are just sick of talking about Israel totally get it okay like I like Humberto I think said that he's like I just want to stop talking about Israel that's fine Israel's not asking you to talk about them the media is doing it so the Twitter bots are doing it nobody wants to talk about Israel here all right you know A-pack the control have that conversation but here's my question Israel they're they're looking to take over zero cities zero cities in fact you know Israel controls the world Israel controls America we're about to have an Islamic communist
Starting point is 02:13:20 mayor of New York City. The most Jews in the world outside of Israel, New York, can't even win New York. So there's a population situation. Cities across Europe are they in jeopardy of being run over by Jews? Is London?
Starting point is 02:13:35 Is Brussels? Is Paris? Is Rome? Is also, are all these cities going to be governed by Jews? No, it's all going to be Muslims in the coming years. That's all conversation that Tommy Robinson can invite. But all these countries that are having issues these days APEC isn't in the U.K.
Starting point is 02:13:53 APEC isn't doing their thing in Australia. Why are all these other countries around the world that don't share the concerns of getting America into war? Why do they all have so much anti-Israel hate? Because it's not Israel's getting us involved in wars and it's and it's BB that's causing us to do the, you know, invade Iraq. No, why are all these countries? Could it be that it's just the longest, the most hated, long-standing type of hate in the world? I don't know. I'm asking you guys a question
Starting point is 02:14:24 because I see it in America. People are so sick of Israel. I want to understand from a global perspective. Well, I mean, you showed, didn't you come up with the chart when we were prepping? Like, where's that chart that shows the anti-feelings towards, is it Israel? Or was it against Jewish people? Do you remember which one it was? The unfavorability rate, pure research. It's horrible towards Israel. Yeah, can you show that, Rob?
Starting point is 02:14:46 Yeah, we showed that to me. I showed it to me. Well, Adam, and I'm just thinking on basic, like, where is it coming from? I'm asking you guys. I think it's, this is my opinion. I think it's the way of the handling of the war. And when it comes to war, people are going to be critical. I understand the side of- So you generally think it's because of the war?
Starting point is 02:15:05 I think it's because of the war. Yeah, 100%. What else do you think it is? I mean, because I remember on October 8th, people saying before Israel even attacked, that they were going to commit genocide. So before they even fired a bullet, oh, they're going to genocide. So to me, this has all just been brewing underneath
Starting point is 02:15:25 and this is an excuse to hate the Jews again. But okay, other than war, what is it? Because if they stop the war, people are going to go back to liking Israel? Well, those are the basic things. What else? War, what else? Is the A PAC?
Starting point is 02:15:38 Okay, that affects America. What else? At the end of the day, Adam, when we talk about everybody else, this is our ally. This isn't just another regular country. so when they do something, America looks like they're bad. And for instance, you know me and how I feel about children. I want every, if there's injured kids and I want to help those people 100% when it comes
Starting point is 02:15:58 to children. But did you see a couple weeks ago, Pat, when Laura Lumer was put them on blasts and got Marco Rubio involved where there was airplanes full of people coming into the United States from Palestine. And guess what? As much as I want to help these people, you're going to let it. a group of people whose fathers, brothers, mothers, aunts have been getting killed in Gaza and then you want to bring them here?
Starting point is 02:16:23 How do you think they're going to feel towards America? Because our biggest ally is Israel. That's a freaking, that's a dangerous, dangerous thing to do because, yeah, they're going to come in with smiles. I appreciate that. That's from an American perspective. I'd love to get Thomas' perspective. But Pat, let me ask you something. I remember you said something to the fact of like, oh, you want people to stop hating on you?
Starting point is 02:16:41 You know a good idea of what you could do Israel? Or Jewish people? lose. Oh, no, I didn't start losing. You know who said that? Thomas Sol said that. Exactly. You're repeating Thomas Soul?
Starting point is 02:16:50 So, all right, so the Jews control the world. There's 0.02% of the population of the world are Jewish. So in my opinion, a lot of the world are looking for scapegoats because their lives are meaningless, or they're not doing things they want in their life, or they're poor, or they're not rich, or things are going well, or especially in the Middle East, you know, you're supposed to be the chosen people from the last prophet, yet you're in, you're in, turmoil and misery, oh, it must be the Jews. So I have news for you. Jews are typically raised with good foundation and good principles and want to learn and want to be educated
Starting point is 02:17:25 and want to make money. That is a recipe for success for anybody. Anybody can do what the Jews are doing, but a lot of people won't put in the work. So Tom, what's your opinion on what all this hate has come from? So I can't begin to speculate on white. You should have a big country. I looked at that list, and I'm like, okay, there's some countries that are very Muslim, Indonesia. Okay, I can understand that. There's this, because there's a Muslim, Jewish schism that's there that goes back. Do you think? I don't understand Japan. I see Japan has got similar data points to Indonesia. I look down this, and I'm like, why would Japan have the people feel this way? And I don't have a baseline for it like a before and after, but I will tell you, in the theater of modern warfare, there is a lot of feeling right now.
Starting point is 02:18:18 There's a lot of feeling, and there are a lot of polling and things out there, that people feel one way about ideas and they think another way about execution. Everybody wanted the border shut in the U.S. everybody wanted to control immigration. Nobody wanted to see people picked up while they were picking fruit in a field or from a construction site and shipped out. When people saw execution, like, okay, I was in favor closing the border, but I don't really like that. And also you've got like the movie Wag the Dog. You take little glimpses on a video that give you emotional responses. Now, it's gone on for a long time, and there's an awful lot of humanitarian. and stuff that's going on in Gaza, and I see a lot of articles and translated from many different
Starting point is 02:19:10 languages, French, German, that are saying, you defending yourself from October 7th, you've gone too far. And I see that. So I don't know where the feeling was before. Here's Thomas Sole. But there's a lot of people saying, you've gone too far, and I don't like what I see. I want to show this. Which is leading too far leads him to say.
Starting point is 02:19:30 We got it, Tom. So I want to show this. I want to show this. and for you to see this this is from a few months ago but this is Thomas Sol's interview for many years ago Thomas Sol hasn't done an interview in a long time and he's asking about this
Starting point is 02:19:42 Thomas Saul though. You'd love to interview Thomas Saul is probably one of the, he wrote a book called White he called the reason. The one that I read Black Tico, Black Red Necks called Reason or it's called by the way, the guy
Starting point is 02:19:57 is unfriking believable he schooled people like you wouldn't believe he was phenomenal Reader. What? Reader. That's one. Thank you, Rob. This is a, everybody should read the book, Reader. I don't care if you're 13 years old or 60 years old. You should read Reader. Watch how Thomas O'L. Breaks in that and what he says, the last three seconds at the interview.
Starting point is 02:20:15 Go forward. Middleman minorities of which the Jews are most prominent. The hostility to these people in countries around the world is out of all proportion of that. To any other kind of group I can think of. In terms of violence, the number of Chinese kill, let's say, in one year. And by mob action, exceeds all the blacks lynched in the armed. entire history of the United States. And the number of Armenians killed in Turkey during the First World War is greater than that. Of course, the number of Jews slaughtered on a number of occasions in history, even before the Holocaust, is greater than that. So the question is why this particular kind of people are the targets of so much venomous hatred? And I think the answer is that
Starting point is 02:20:55 they not only succeed, they succeed in a way, which is the threat to the egos of other people. But the guy who comes here, let's say, from Vietnam or Korea and arrives here with little more than the clothes in his back and a few words of broken English. And a decade later, he has his own little business. And you see his son a few years after that getting ready to go off to Harvard or MIT. You've got to ask yourself, you know, you've got to hate yourself with saying, my God, I've been stagnating this guy. It was nothing. And now he was without. Or you're going to have to hate him.
Starting point is 02:21:27 years ago, one official of one of the Jewish organizations in New York asked me, what can Jews themselves do in order to minimize the hostility they face? I gave them a one-word answer. Fail, because as long as you succeed, you're going to be hated. The middle man might. Exactly. It's Thomas Old for you. You know, that is so true about Los Angeles.
Starting point is 02:21:47 Growing up in Los Angeles, and first of all, I shed the joy of many friends who are Armenians that I knew from Cal State Northridge and living out there who told me what the Holocaust was, and then I would go into my world history classes at college, and I asked about, hey, we're covering World War I. What about this? What are you talking about? And I spoke for them, and I brought it up. And in that same Los Angeles, exactly what Thomas is talking about, I saw. I saw it with the Koreans that protected their own businesses during Rodney King riots, and we saw the vitriol toward the Japanese and the Koreans in Los Angeles. And all they did was come over here, and exactly as Thomas Hull said, they succeeded, they built a business, and suddenly other people in the community didn't like them or thought that, you know, that wasn't fair like this.
Starting point is 02:22:37 And they used to make jokes about UCLA. Oh, it's University of Californians living among Asians. It's really, what's so terrible about a kid doing well on an SAT and being able to get into UCLA? I don't understand. And UCLA had this over-index of Asians. Why? Because all these people were succeeding in L.A. and they wanted to send their kids through good school.
Starting point is 02:22:56 They got in-state tuition, and they sent them UCLA. What Thomas Soul is saying, I saw in Los Angeles as I was there over 50 years and seeing people grow up, and I see it. And it wasn't a black-white thing. I saw it in other races. Yeah. So, I mean, look, that's Thomas Soul for you. And for me, I like to listen to people that emotion is low, reason is high.
Starting point is 02:23:21 And Thomas Soul breaks things down in a very reasonable way. And by the way, this still doesn't mean I have to support what's happening to Palestinians. This still doesn't mean I have to support what's going on there with the war. This still doesn't mean I have to support any of that stuff. It just means I have to find a way to not allow all these emotional.
Starting point is 02:23:38 And by the way, if you're Muslim, you've got 2 billion people, who do you think has a monopoly on social media? Who? Jews or Muslims? And then those 2 billion people that are messaging and they are able to recruit others because the average person is going to be like, wow, this guy gets this many retweets, that guy gets this, he must be right, he must be this.
Starting point is 02:24:01 But you have to be able to step back and sit there and say, I don't support what's going on here. You know, like yesterday, the video with what do you call it, when they shot up the hospital, that BV had to come back and apologize. And then after a first shot, they shoot the second one. And you see the video. I don't have to support that. Okay, this clip right here, we don't have to show it to the public, Rob,
Starting point is 02:24:22 so make sure the people in the back are not doing it. The guy's flipping them off, right? They're talking to their own people. They're fixing this place. And then within seconds, boom, and gone, right? This is the nasty part of war. But watch what this does to the average person. This is all they see.
Starting point is 02:24:37 And they say, wow, how bad. This is terrible. War is nasty on both sides. It's not for the emotional, wary. It's not for the average person. And the only difference today that we're living, 20 years ago you wouldn't see these clips. Today it's everywhere.
Starting point is 02:24:53 And so guess what? To all the emotional people, it's so easy to hold them hostage and to keep them forever and to get them to hate somebody else. When I was in school, everybody liked me. I was a regular guy. All the kids went to universities.
Starting point is 02:25:06 All my friends went to colleges. I'm the only guy that didn't go to a college. And my friends would say, parents, be careful with Patrick, divorced family, be careful with them. Trouble. So guess what? I couldn't even get into a community college,
Starting point is 02:25:18 Glenda Community College. I joke about it. Obviously, I went there and I got GOV, whatever that was, the benefits they're giving you, you know, Gov, all these things that, obviously, for them, government, you can do this. Eventually, I joined the army. I come out.
Starting point is 02:25:29 My friends are like, oh, it's okay. It's going to be okay. This is Patrick. It's going to be okay. He's not going to do anything big in his life. The moment I want a little bit, I'm like, hey, made six figures. What's he doing? Well, you know, it's just six figures.
Starting point is 02:25:43 He doesn't have a degree. He doesn't have a degree. And then I made a quarter million. And then I made a million. And then next year, you know, all the same people who were, feeling sorry for me when my parents got through a divorce and they were all happy and their parents were married and their parents told them stay away from that guy. Now they're all saying things behind my back. Wait a minute, we were best friends. Why? Because I was not the one that
Starting point is 02:26:08 was supposed to make it. And then it's, oh, he made it because of this business. Oh, I would never make the money the way he, I would never, oh, now you're tarnishing. Okay, great. Then you know what I realize, look, I have a choice. Win for the people that matter in my life and allow the people that have worked with you to know how you are, or go out there and try to please the people that you're never going to win over. I have no desire to be part of this camp. Because you're held hostage, you conform, you're in prison. You don't even know it. You will never win an election here. This is not the election I'm trying to win. I'm trying to win this election. You ought to make that decision for yourself as well. I'm going to wrap up. You've got to go because I got a meeting
Starting point is 02:26:51 too. I know you want to say a couple words as well. I just want to ask you a question. Yeah. I just simple question. How often do you read the Bible? I've been reading Proverbs this week. And I've just been, I couldn't put it down. I'm like, I need Proverbs right now. Just going through it right now. Really? Yeah, I'm going through Proverbs right now. The reason I ask that because I know Vinny's been reading it. I know Tom has been reading it. I had that epiphany. I was like, the Bible is really just the Old Testament, the Five Books of Movis, and the New Testament. Here's my. opinion, I was actually speaking with Rabbi Benny. I said, here's what I've noticed. Benny. Oh, Benny. Okay. They said Vinnie. Rabbi Vinny. That'd be great.
Starting point is 02:27:26 Coming soon. Do it fast. I got to go. I got a meeting in three minutes. People that study the Torah turn out to be, for the most part, way more learned and scholarly and have way more principles. People that read the Bible, in my opinion, become way more righteous and virtuous. On another note, people that read the Quran and read it literally become way more radical and extremist and practice jihad. That's just my opinion. Yeah. And stats validate some of it. We call them radical clerics. I don't know about radical, I've never heard radical Catholic priests, radical Protestant ministers or pastors or radical Jewish rabbis, but somehow we've now have a lexicon that includes radical clerics. Tom, let me tell you, Tom, as much as we're
Starting point is 02:28:14 talking the way that we are, there is a massive loud population that's against it. And the people are afraid of losing that audience. And I'm not. I don't wake up in a morning trying to win audience over. I'm going to be myself long term. And if you like it, like it, you don't, you don't. And I'm going to call out anybody and everybody if I don't like it. But, man, to the emotional few, read, read, read. To those of you that are watching this because you're hate watching, you're not like watching. Keep coming back. We enjoy it. We don't mind it at all. As long as you respect. Adam said something to a guy the other day on the neck. He says, you know, the guy pushed you a little bit on the neck. I don't want to say the guy's name, but he said something. He's
Starting point is 02:28:56 like, nobody likes you. And that's not true. I actually like the guy. I actually like. He said, he sent me exactly what was something like, no, no, wait a minute. I like this guy. I like talking to this guy. And we have back and forth. I don't have any problem with even talking haters. I have one basic rule. It's a very simple rule with me. Just be respectful. If you respectfully disagree, we're going to be okay together long term. Guys, we have a lot of podcasts that haven't come out that we have shot. Yesterday, I shot a couple podcasts. Some of them are going to come out.
Starting point is 02:29:23 For everybody else that's coming here tonight, I cannot wait to see y'all here tonight to those that are coming to the networking event. Rob, if you can put the link below again for the last people that want to get the ticket and come down, we cannot wait to meet many of you here tonight at the camp, especially the founders and CEOs for me to give you a tour and afterwards going to the boardroom cigar lounge. We'll do it again on Friday. God bless everybody.
Starting point is 02:29:43 Love y'all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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