PBD Podcast - Trump Called NATO's Daddy, Rogan vs. Liver King, Biden Autopen Scandal & Mamdani Wins | PBD Podcast | Ep. 608

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick unpack Trump being dubbed NATO’s “Daddy” by Secretary‑General Rutte, the bizarre beef between Joe Rogan and Liver King after the influencer was arrested for terroristic threats, and the seismic upset as Zohran Mamdani defeats Andrew Cuomo in the NYC mayoral primary. ------💼 BDC's 5X5 MATRIX OVERVIEW: https://bit.ly/4k8ZL1y🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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The president was called Daddy by one of the leaders in NATO. Can you imagine that? They call him Daddy. Respect. And a lady who's asking a question says, do you feel like you're their daddy? Like you're their dad? And it's so funny the moment that even Marco Rubio can't control himself.

But then there was a very unique moment between him and a Ukrainian reporter whose husband is in war asking him a question and she starts getting emotional. Did you see this clip? It is so powerful. I cannot wait to share this thing with you guys. New York mayor for Democratic side, the winner is out, Mamdani beat out Andrew Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo conceded. And one of the most recognizable realtors in all of America, Ryan Serhant, came out and

told everybody what type of calls he's getting of people that own a lot of real estate and what they want to do next. This is already creating an element of a domino effect where people are thinking about what they're going to be doing next. Eric Adams comes out and calls out Mamdani publicly. If this guy really wants to do something, he's been able to do it for a long time, then there's a Republican candidate, Chris Willa, I believe, who's been around for a while. He always wears a red beret.

There's just a lot of stuff going on in New York and it's going to be interesting if New York's going to turn into the next Dearborn, the next Detroit, the next London, who knows what it's going to turn into. But we will definitely be talking about that as well. Pete Hexett this morning got up and addressed the claims that the bombs they dropped didn't necessarily do anything to the nuclear facilities that New York Times and CNN has been claiming nothing happened to. Their fine Khomeini came out for the first time this morning, said a few words, and he called out the U.S. in a very direct way.

I'll share that article with you, Rob, on what he said Khomeini this morning with the fact that yeah, they tried, nothing happened, were stronger than ever before, and it's almost like instigating. It's not a position of trying to calm things down. It's like coming out and saying, you didn't do nothing. Publicly trying to humiliate the president, it's what it sounds like, but who knows how they're going to be handling this, but we'll talk about that as well. Trump says, I don't want the Iran regime change.

It creates so much chaos. He's not interested in that. A couple other stories here that we have. Massey and the President go back and forth about the big, beautiful bill. We'll react to that as well. Austin Metcalf, suspected killer, indicted on first-degree murder charge in track meet, stabbing U.S. liability insurance on verge of breakdown from tithe of claims.

Guys, can you imagine all these insurers who protect you when something happens to you, imagine if all of them all of a sudden said, we're out. We don't want to get into this business anymore. What would people be doing? Think about that for a second. What would that do to property valuation? What would that do to a lot of different things? Would you buy your property and pay premium for it if you know you're not protected?

If a tornado, hurricane, something causes some chaos into that place, would you still want to buy that property? These insurers are declaring, they're letting the public know, hey, here's a problem we're facing, how do you want to help us out? Next one, this is devastating to a lot of people, so I just want to kind of brace for impact when I share this article with you guys. It says your brain physically changes when you work too much. Scientist warned.

It's a warning. Don't work too hard, folks. Just relax. Enjoy yourself. Don't work too hard. Try to collect claims, maybe go on some kind of entitlement programs and enjoy. Let other people work hard and you take, you know, all these different kinds of programs, right? That's a wiser thing to do according to the scientists.

Maybe it's even a completely different position. Teacher's union head gleefully declares that her union owns American children. Let me say that one more time. Teacher's union head gleefully declares that her union owns your kids. I change it. Owns American children. Owns our kids. Owns your kids. Isn't that kind?

Don't you love the fact that a head of a union is happy about the fact that they own your kids? How does that make you feel? We're going to go into that a little bit more. She's not wrong. Ex-Biden aide Neera Tandon tells oversight committee she was authorized to use the auto pen. What? Authorized to use the auto pen? Vinny brought a pen in here to show how this stuff works. And you know, he's going to try to do my signature. It's not easy. It's not like a doctor's signature, but it is what it is. Tom Homan warns Iranian sleeper cells could be hiding in the U.S. as a result of Biden's border crisis, but at the same time he tells Pod Force One he's living apart from his

wife over death threats. Can you imagine how many jobs you can have in America and this job that you have is so bad that you can't sleep next to your wife. You have to worry about your death threats that you're getting left and right. He's trying to protect his family. Of course he is. I totally get it. Rogan and Liver King.

Liver King apparently went to Austin, made some inspirational videos. How would you describe those videos? Very gentle, kind, loving, normal. Very sweet. Nothing out of the ordinary. No scratches. I spent time with him on the podcast. We had a conversation with him the moment the scandal came out and Joe responded about the fact that he's been trying to get on the podcast.

Rob, if you don't have that clip of Joe responding, if you could find it, to go to it. It's not hard to find. It's everywhere. Candice Owens torches Trump. I feel embarrassed that I told people to go vote for him. This is from a media story. I think this is from Pierce Morgan, if I'm not mistaken. We'll go to that as well. Joy Reid suggests Iran having nuclear weapons, ready for this folks, might make Middle East calmer.

Okay? So it's actually not a bad thing if Iran has nuclear weapons, but it doesn't stop there. CNN host says the following. The anchor says, Iranians chanting death to America are friendly. They're very friendly. Can you imagine? We want to kill you.

What a friendly group of people here. This is amazing how nice they are. Wall Street panics over prospects of socialists running New York City. Trump calls Mamdani a communist lunatic. Rubio cracks up, we'll talk about that. Eric Adams, we'll talk about that. Trump calls Fed Chair Powell an average mentally person and says he's working on replacement. And a stunning turnaround, the stock market is on the verge of an all-time record.

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If there's anything I would tell you, don't do it alone during these seasons. Having said that, let's get right into it. New York. New York City mayor on the Democratic primary, Mamdani Beats, Andrew Cuomo. This is not something people expected. He's a 33-year-old former rapper who said a lot of weird things. He says he's going to make child care free for everybody, buses free for everybody. There's a lot of things that's going to be given free.

He's a communist, some call him a socialist, Muslim. There's certain things that he has. They're calling New York that could be possibly the next London. New York could turn into the next Dearborn, could turn into the next Detroit. There's a lot of concerns there. It is so bad with what they're talking about with New York that even Ryan Serhand, who is the big real estate influencer, this is the type of guy that puts up properties for sale in New York for $200-plus million.

That's who he represents. That's who those clients want to do business with. And here's what he had to say. Luxury real estate broker says wealthy New Yorkers are already looking to flee after Zohran Mamdani's primary win. Rob, if you can go to the next page on that Instagram post. Within minutes of Zoran Mabdani clinching the Democratic nomination Tuesday night, real estate agents like Ryan Serhant were flooded with calls from clients looking to walk away

from deals to buy apartments in New York City. So imagine I made an offer on a property that I'm buying, $5, $10, $15, $20, $30 million. I'm like, I'm out. We're in the middle of it. Imagine the realtor is about to make $200,000 in commission. $50,000 in commission. $400,000 in commission. We're out.

We're not doing this. This is not a good investment. If this takes place, if you want to go to the next slide, Rob, if you could, on that Instagram post. My number one job, he says, will be moving people from New York to Florida. Again, based on the results, clients are going to hold off on making any kind of investment in New York City. By the way, he does not benefit from saying this.

You guys understand, like his business is New York business. He doesn't benefit from saying something like this. He wants people to stay in New York to do well, but at the same time it benefits them as well if people leave because they're buying and selling. Rob, if you want to go to the last slide, if there is one. So this is from Ryan Serhan. Now, why are so many business owners, entrepreneurs concerned about what's going on here with Mamdani?

Rob, can you put up the video clip about Mamdani winning and what happened there with the primaries? This is Eric Adams, okay, Mayor Eric Adams, who says, you know, all the claims that Mamdani is making of what he's going to do to New York, he can do today if he really wanted to. Rob, go ahead and play this clip. It's not just defund the police, this candidate, democratic socialist, he wants to freeze the rent, he wants city-run grocery stores, social workers tound the police, this candidate, democratic socialist. He wants to freeze the rent. He wants city-run grocery stores, social workers

to replace the police, because that's going to help. He wants $60 billion of debt fund for affordable housing. He wants free buses, no cost for child care, baby baskets for newborn, and a $30 minimum wage. How can someone vote for this? He's a snake oil salesman. He would say and do anything to get elected. Think about this for a moment. He wants to raise 1% he wants to raise tax on 1% of New Yorkers high-income earners.

As the mayor you don't have the authority to do that. You know who has the authority to do that? An assemblyman, which he is. He wants to do free buses. He could have done it at an assemblyman. There you go. He doesn't understand the power of government and how you must make sure you improve your economy, raise the standard of living,

and this is what we've done in the city. And I'm looking forward to being on the campaign trail and showing New Yorkers we can't go backwards. Now here's what's interesting, Vinny, you're somebody that lived in New York for quite some time. He's running, Mamdani is running as a Democrat. Yes. Eric Adams is running as an independent. Chris Avila is running as a Republican. When you see this happening in New York, one, how do you feel about Mamdani? Do you think his chances are high that he could possibly win or do you think mayor Adams is gonna come back in? Well, well, first of all

Yesterday well on Tuesday we were talking about and he we were like, yeah, he's winning He's you know Cuomo has no point but just just to add a couple of more things that you know He's he's previously called for abolishing NYPD abolishing prisons abolishing medical bills abolishing medical bills, abolishing private health care insurance, banning all guns. I want you guys, I mean, even though New York is pretty strict, legalizing sex work, safe injection sites, because that works in San Francisco, right, Tom? Oh, perfect. Yeah, nothing could possibly go wrong.

Yeah, an ATM machine for crack. Ending cash bail, decriminalizing drug possession, ending sentencing enhancements and ending all cooperation with ICE. So meaning the sanctuary city thing, they want nothing with ICE to have to do with it. I personally, Pat, I'm not a fan of it. And I mean, just the pool of leadership from New York, I know I mentioned on Tuesday, but what the hell is going on? Number one, number two, all the people that are fleeing,

is that like, do you just give up and you bounce? Why don't those people who have money, donate and help and try to fund and support the opposition because that, we talked about it and we warned people, look at what's happening in England, look what's happening in France. Every single thing on my feet about Europe is negative. And it's the migrants that are in there

that are causing freaking ruckus, punching people in the face, robbing people, stabbing people, beating the shit out of kids, sorry for my language, but, and I wanna say something Pat, and I think it was Mayor Suarez said something along the lines of finding a loophole or something where if you're a communist and you're seriously supporting communists,

you can't run for public office. Rob, I think Suarez said this, but this is me, this is Vincent O'Shaughnessy's take, and this goes all the way to the top which includes him and this type of office, Pat. This country was built on Christian values. Am I right, Tom? Absolutely. The Constitution was not written in a vacuum. The founders believed our rights came from God.

Endowed by our Creator. Thank you and not the government. So that that's what makes America great and that's what makes us different. You take God out and you have tyranny and look at communists. Name me a time that communism worked Tom. Can anybody, can you, can anybody do it? Communism and this this Marxist crap idea. And this is is me I think Tom that we need to I don't know how it would happen but do something where even the president Pat only Christians and I'm being I'm being real can be the president United States this is a Christian nation our freedoms came from

the cross not Karl Marx okay communism rejects God and if we let this type of stuff all gods by the way oh yeah stuff in, am I being that guy where this is a nation founded on Christian values? No, you're right. But listen, the beautiful thing about people like this is contradictions eventually get exposed. Watch this one here. He says, this virus is laying bare the severe shortcomings of capitalism. And look at the next tweet. It's the final day to buy our very first merch. Wait a minute, you went from hating capitalism to becoming a capitalist, zero to sixty to

capitalist in a couple seconds. What happened there? You get exposed. You get exposed on the ideology and philosophies people like this have. Adam, what are your thoughts on this, what's happened in New York City with Mom Donnie winning? Well, congratulations New York City. I just want to give you a round of applause. Elections have come. And this is when you voted. I can't hear him.

We lost Adam. Adam dropped out. No? Audio? Yeah, there you go. OK, go for it, Adam. OK, sorry about that. I don't know what you heard.

Go back when you said New York City. Congratulations, New York City. Well, congratulations, New York City. Proud of you, happy for you. This is what you wanted. You got it This is something that we'll see if it sticks to Mondani and when it comes to November, this is only the primary. That's right. We know if we know anything This is only the primary. I think you'll win. You think you'll five more months. Do you think you'll? So I do think he'll win? Adam, do you think you'll win? There's going to be five more months. Do you think you'll win? So I do think he'll win. And I'll tell you why.

This is not a... People are looking at him as he's the problem. He's not the problem. He's a symptom of a bigger problem. One thing we know for sure is New York is done with the Cuomo's. No offense. I think Chris Cuomo is doing a great job right now on News Nation. I think Andrew Cuomo, it's time to retire. There's three reasons that

Zoran won, and we should pay attention to the reasons why. Number one, he was the exact opposite of what Cuomo was. He was authentic, he was bold, and he wasn't scared. Cuomo, as funny as it is, he's not establishment, but he's at least viewed as anti-establishment, or a part of the establishment. So number two, when someone tells you who they are, believe them. He is a progressive Islamist. He co-founded, I believe,

the Palestinian Students for Justice. He's a communist. He's an Islamist. Respect. That's who he is. Believe him. He started a grassroots, He's an Islamist. Respect. That's who he is. Believe him. He's sort of the grassroots, youthful, diverse movement in New York City. And this is who the modern Democratic Party is.

This is why I left the Democratic Party. I'm from Miami. You don't see anything like this in Miami. You see someone like this, like Mayor Suarez in Miami. There's 0% chance in Miami where Cubans came to flee communism and socialism. We'd never elect anybody like this. So this is why you see all the memes about people basically moving to Miami. What's the biggest reason they're moving to Miami?

It's not the Christianity, it's not the Islamism, it's not the Judaism, it's not religion. Follow the money. Affordability crisis in New York is the number one in the country as far as what you're paying as far as Percentage of your income towards housing. That's why he's using all the typical Tricks that a socialist and a communist uses lowering the cost of rent rent freezes free buses free transportation free childcare $30 minimum wage, free groceries basically. Where have I heard this before? We'll see if Eric Adams can mount something,

but unless he becomes authentic and learns how to get what the youth, Mondani might be the newest mayor of New York City. What a far cry from Michael Bloomberg. Here's what he had to say on the victory speech. Go ahead, Rob. One, because New Yorkers have stood up for a city they can afford.

A city where they can do more than just struggle. And it's where the mayor will use their power to reject Donald Trump's fascism, to stop mass ICE agents from deporting our neighbors. I don't know why I'm screaming. Anchorman? Is that what it is? Keep playing it, Rob. I'm just trying to like, he says he's fighting Trump's fascism, right? Yep.

Fascism. To stop mass ICE agents from deporting our neighbors. Okay, so this is what Tom Homan had to say about this because you know how he went up and screaming about the fact that hey, this is not fair what you're doing to immigrants. This is Tom Homan's response. Go for it. ...candidate. He hadn't won yet, but he won the Democratic primary, Zorane Mamdani. So he's saying, I mean, this is incredible.

He's vowed to kick the, quote, fascist ice out of New York City, okay? So how do you intend to deal with that? Because I would guess there are going to be a lot of criminals and Iranian cells and whatnot in New York City the job's not done there. What do you say to this guy? Good luck with that. Doug LaLau jumps him every every every day every hour of every minute. We're gonna be in New York City matter of fact because this is a sanctuary city

President Trump made it clear week in Africa. We're going we're going to double down and triple down the sanctuary cities. If we can't arrest that bad guy in the county jail, one agent arresting one bad guy, they release him in the streets like New York does every day, we've got to send a whole team to look for this guy. And not only that, we're going to send additional teams to look for all the people they arrest. We're going to concentrate on sanctuary cities because we know they're releasing public safety threats and national security threats back to the street. So we know we've got a problem there. So we know we got a problem there.

So we don't have that problem in Florida where most sheriffs work for us. So we're going to double up and triple up on New York. And not only are we going to send more agents to the neighborhood, we're going to increase worksite enforcement tenfold. If we can't arrest them in the jail, you're going to force them to the neighborhood, then we'll fine them in the neighborhood. If we can't... So by the way, New Yorkers who are possibly thinking about staying, they're staying because

of guys like this. They're relying on the federal government to do their part. Rob, can you do me a favor? Go to ChadGBT and time in. How many Muslim mayors have we had in America? How many Muslim mayors? I believe the number is six when I looked at it yesterday, but it could be three and three, it'll break it down for you.

How many Muslim mayors have we had in America? Zoom in a little bit. How many Muslim mayors have we had in America? For example, that one was a breakdown? For example, that one is what? Mayor of Cambridge, Massachusetts. Okay, four years. Sadaf Jaffer, Montgomery Township. Okay. Dikha's, where's that? Portland? Is that Portland, Maryland? No, that's where. M.E.? Portland, Maine. Portland, Maine. And then Nadia Mohammed is St. Louis Park, Minnesota. It's a lot of Minnesota. Amir Omar, Richardson, Texas, interesting, first Muslim mayor in that region, and then 6th,

Mamdani, if he wins, right? So five so far, and of which, of the five, three are from Minnesota. If this goes the way it does, Tom, say he wins. Is it really that bad of a thing? Is it really gonna get that nasty? Is it really an overreaction? Oh my God, everyone's gonna move to Florida, people are gonna leave, it's gonna be this. Is it really that bad of a thing in New York

or is it just an overreaction? I don't think it's an overreaction. We just saw one of the largest, most influential realtors in New York saying I'm getting phone calls now to stop a deal and a deal in New York City is million two million dollar deal on the low end for you know condos and and nice apartments and things like that and now you're talking about this I look at it this way there is a great contradiction that happened in New York City. They had a large rally, one of the larger rallies.

No authoritarianism, no authoritarianism, no kings. But if you listen to this guy and you listen to everything, you take the guns away from the citizens. And by the way, there was a shooting at a church, one person tragically killed, but then a highly trained, licensed citizen security guard takes out the threat. Not a multi-person shooting, one person, God rest her soul, highly trained, licensed citizen security guard takes out the threat. Not a multi-person shooting, one person, God rest her soul, and the shooter neutralized.

Now you're going to take guns away from the citizens, you're going to defund the police, and you're going to do all the rest of these things, make it free. And when that devolves, that will devolve very, very quickly. And when it devolves, guess what? The people can't rise up because the people are not armed just to protect their homes. And you know what you get? You get an authoritarian Muslim that's the mayor of your city. This is not an overreaction.

There are very real things that are happening right now. It's a populous thing. If he tries to get the $30 minimum wage through, Eric Adams was on a morning show on Fox talking about things. Hey, he needs the assemblymen to help him, and he is an assemblyman, and so why couldn't he get all this done now? So as mayor of New York, this is not an overreaction.

This is the tip of an iceberg. This could head toward Dearborn very, very, very quickly, and I just ask New Yorkers, those of you that voted for him, look down the list of things and ask yourself very honestly, where do you think the outcome is at? What do you think the end is that? Does the mayor become a Muslim authoritarian figure? I think so. But you just marched in the streets over the past weekend

and said no authoritarianism. Which is it? By the way, you know what's interesting about this, Tom? I posted something on Twitter and I said, New York may have gotten more conservative in the 2024 election, but the Democratic Party moved further left. I think you're 100% correct. They moved further left. So as left as they were, they didn't decide to come to the center. Let's go a little bit more to the center. They're like, no, let's go a little bit more to the left. Let's go turn this thing into Detroit.

Let's go turn this thing into Detroit. Let's go turn this thing into Dearborn. And you know what's the crazy thing about businessmen that live in your community? Who are the first people that are hated? Those who make money, those who are successful. In every space, those are the people that always get hated the most. In the family, who is the most hated person? Probably the guy with the most money or the gal with the most money. It's always the same thing.

People can't stand success because they're envious of it until eventually what happens? Those people say, you know what, you don't appreciate us? No problem. We'll leave to a different place. Ken Griffin. I was at an event in St. Regis with a bunch of wealthy people that are billionaires and the entire eight hour meeting, 40% of the meeting, everyone brought up Ken Griffin. Ken Griffin left Chicago.

Ken Griffin left Chicago. Ken Griffin left Chicago. Ken Griffin, we're going to miss Ken Griffin, but you know where we're going to recover from Ken Griffin. It's like the entire meeting was about Ken Griffin. Okay, so now all these people that you guys hate in New York that are the business owners, the builders, the billionaires, you don't think they have a hundred other places to go to? It's as if every person that voted for Mamdani in New York needs to go out there and buy

the book Atlas Shrugged and just read it. Go read the book and read the history of what happens when you push these types of guys out. There's plenty of places for them to go to, but again, we'll see what happens by November between now and then. Maybe Eric Adams is going to come out, and since they're both kind of a Democratic party but he went to the Independent side, who knows if an Independent can win in New York. We'll find out.

Let's go to the next story. Iran, Israel, did the nuclear facilities really get hit, did they not get hit? You hear stories about the fact that those places didn't get hit, that they not get hit. You hear stories about the fact that those places didn't get hit. There's CNN Anchor saying certain things. There's Joy Read saying certain things here. Joy Read, I'll start off with that one first. Rob, can you tell me what page Joy Read is? Joy Read is, you have to read here this one, folks.

Page 16. Page 16. Okay. Joy Read. Let's You have to read here this one, folks. Page 16. Page 16. Okay. Joy Read. Let's start the clip from here, by the way. Joy Read suggests Iran having nuclear weapon might make Middle East calmer. Can you imagine that? Iran having nuclear weapon might make the Middle East calmer.

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And the reason you won't see nuclear war in our lifetime is that everyone who would deem to threaten global annihilation has nukes. Mutually assured destruction. And I think what would, in a weird way, make the Middle East, you know how they say the most polite society in the country is Texas? Because everybody's packing. Everybody got guns. That's right.

Maybe the Middle East would be calmer if there weren't just, I mean, what I spoke yesterday to a Navy veteran who is, who used to fly those bombers that they used to drop the bunker, about the 30,000 pound bombs. And he was telling me, he said, don't be, don't get it twisted. This war is not about a real threat that Iran posed to anyone. They don't have nukes and they didn't have nukes and they weren't making nukes. This is about a geopolitical push, the same way it was when we went after Mossadegh. To make it, we would rather Iran with a dictator who's a puppet than a free Iran who could defy us and take the oil we feel entitled to.

In this case, Israel wants to be the hegemon of the region. They want to be the United States, the big boy in the block and have no competitors. And their biggest two potential competitors are Saudi Arabia and Iran. And so the idea here is to make them the unquestioned superpower. You can pause that right there. So she thinks it would be safer if Iran has a nuclear weapon. Now this whole story that you're hearing about was prompted after reporters came out from CNN, I believe New York Times that said, �US strikes did not destroy Iran's nuclear program.

White House rages after top secret doc is leaked as Israel and Iran claim victory.� Rob, if you have this clip, go for it. Play this clip here. �The country and the American public have ever seen. And that CNN story does not change the facts. There was a total and complete obliteration of Iran's nuclear facilities. And because of the president's strike, because of the precision of our United States military in this perfectly executed mission, Iran no longer has the capability to produce a nuclear

weapon as imminently as they did prior to the strike. The American people and the world should be grateful for that. And it's disgusting that CNN and the New York Times are disparaging not just the president, but our brave men and women who helped conduct this highly successful operation. What kind of consequence could the leaker face? Walks up. Okay.

Pete Hexett then responds this morning. He does a press conference to address it and break down the fact that these facilities were hit and here's what he had to say. Go for it, Ron. Fake news, CNN, MSNBC, or the New York Times, there's been fawning coverage of a preliminary assessment. I've had a chance to read it. Every outlet has breathlessly reported

on a preliminary assessment from DIA. I'm looking at it right now. Again, it was preliminary, a day and a half after the actual strike. When it admits itself in writing that it requires weeks to accumulate the necessary data to make such an assessment, it's preliminary, it points out that it's not been coordinated with the intelligence community at all.

There's low confidence in this particular report. It says in the report, there are gaps in the information. It says in the report, multiple linchpin assumptions are what this assessment, a linchpin assumption, you know what that is? That means your entire premise is predicated on a linchpin. If you're wrong, everything else is wrong. And yet, still, this report acknowledges

it's likely severe damage. Again, this is preliminary, but leaked because someone had an agenda to try to muddy the waters and make it look like this historic strike wasn't successful. I'm going to get to the chairman in a moment because he's going to lay out the particulars for you based on his professional military experience. But here's what other folks are saying. The DIA that put that report out says this is a preliminary low confidence report and will continue to be refined as additional intelligence becomes available. How about the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission? The devastating U.S. strikes on Fordow destroyed the site's critical infrastructure and rendered the enrichment facility inoperable.

Have any of these quotes made their way into the New York Times or the Washington Post? MSNBC? CNN? Any of these quotes? How about this one? This is a new one from the UN, the United Nations. No friend of the United States or certainly Israel often. Here's the head of the UN Atomic Energy Agency this morning, Rafael Grossi.

U.S. and Israeli strikes caused enormous damage to Iran's nuclear sites. Don't take my word for it. How about the IDF's chief of staff? I can say here that the assessment is that we significantly damaged the nuclear program, setting it back by years. I repeat, years. The Iranian foreign minister, the spokesman, our nuclear installations have been badly damaged. That's for sure. I'm sure

that's an understatement. John Radcliffe, the director of the CIA, putting out a statement just last night. CIA can confirm that a body of credible intelligence indicates Iran's nuclear program has been severely damaged by recent targeted strikes. This includes new intelligence from a historically reliable, very different than preliminary assessment with— You can pause it right there. You can pause it right there.

OK, Tom, he's given his argument to say that we did destroy the facilities. It's going to take him years to recover. Iran, I'm going to show an article from this morning. This is what President Trump had to say. Fake news CNN, together with the fallen failing New York Times, have teamed up in an attempt to demean one of the most successful military strikes in history. The nuclear sites in Iran are completely destroyed. Both the Times and the CNN are getting slammed by the public. What do you think really happened? Do we really know whether massive damage was done or not? I think, well, first of all, Heges wasn't giving his opinion. He was reading the

opinion of multiple global leaders whose business is to be in the know and to make these statements and these observations. Number one. And number two, you've got certainty coming from, okay, the IDF. OK, you could say the IDF is biased, sure, that there's be their business to spin it one way. But when Iran's foreign minister and others are talking about this, it seems to indicate that there is damage done. But everybody also agrees that it's

going to take weeks of damage assessment to see. We have satellite photos. We're going to watch trucks. We're going to see what's going on there, to see what is happening on the ground and the true ground response. All it takes is the satellite images and you'll watch, do supplies come and go, do the workers come in and go out the way they were, how many of them. There's going to be all sorts of assessments. So it is correct that it is early to make the assessment and it's also correct that Hexas didn't go up there and just do some

Fawning denial he called out the media for grabbing one little part of it running with it because they want to make the president look bad And then he starts quoting people around the world That made me feel pretty reasonable about this So if we if we got half the job done, we got a quarter of the job done You know what you know what still is true? We flew planes into their airspace, they couldn't do shit about it and we flew home unharmed. But was that the outcome though? Was the mission accomplished?

That's the question. That's what a lot of people are asking about because this is what Khamenei had to say this morning. I don't think we know. Yeah. But there's a lot of people on the world stage that are saying that there's more chance that it did. I got you, Tom. This is what Khamenei is saying this morning.

Iranian Supreme Leader crawls out of bunker to ludicrously claim victory over Israel. Tehran's delivered a hand slap to America's face. Go a little bit lower if you could wrap. Iran's human leader, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameneenei came out of hiding Thursday to ludicrously claim victory over Israel, having delivered a hand slap to America's face during the first address since the total obliteration of his nuclear weapon facilities. Khamenei said he was victorious in the 12-day war despite losing years of progress on his nuclear programs, including more than a dozen of his leading scientists being killed and

obliteration of three nuclear enrichment sites. The Islamic Republic was victorious and in retaliation delivered a hand slap to America's face. Khamenei said Thursday, go a little bit lower Rob. The head of the Islamic regime has been hiding since Israel launched Operation Rising Line on June 13 fearing an assassination attempt by the Jewish State. Israel had launched hundreds of missiles around Tehran, along with covert operations that destroyed ground-to-air and ground-to-ground defense systems.

And how many addresses comes five days after Trump ordered the 7B2 bombers to drop bunker busters, bombs on the underground Fordow nuclear sites as nuclear-capable submarines launched cruise missiles at two other sites, Natanz and Esfahan. U.S. hit nuclear sites but could not achieve much. Khomeini said in televised speech before calling out Trump, U.S. President Trump needed to do showmanship. Okay, so now he's poking.

Go a little bit lower. Needed to do a little bit of showmanship. Go a little bit lower. With all that commotion and all those claims the Zionist regime was practically knocked out and crushed under the blows of the Islamic Republic. The isolated Iran leader statements are the first since ceasefire was agreed upon by his nation in Israel. Adam, your thoughts on this? So there's a lot to unpack here, so let me just go one by one and I'll go very quickly.

At the cornerstone of everything that's going on, whether it's Joy Reid, whether it's what's happening in New York, whether it's even the Ayatollah, everything is doing an exact opposite of what Trump stands for. So if you're trying to understand the mindset of the Democrat these days or the socialists or the progressives, all you have to do is understand Newton's theory, which is for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. Oh, so Trump is pro-Israel? Now all of a sudden we're pro-Iran.

We're pro-Palestinian. Trump is America first? Well, we're America last. Trump has closed the borders? Let's open the borders. Let's have a globalist mindset. Let's globalize the Antifada. Trump is using ICE, we hate ICE. That's all it is. Show me a position Trump stands for, that's exactly what the Democrats

or the globalists are using as their platform to go against Trump. Trump could cure cancer and they would be cheering, why did he eliminate cancer? We love cancer. He cost 17,000 jobs, yeah, exactly. What's that? Yeah, if he cured cancer, they would say Trump caused the loss of 17,000 jobs. They would find a way to take the 20% position on that. That's all it is. So if you understand that, that whatever Trump stands for, they're going to take the opposite

position, that at least gives you a little insight to their mindset. Number two, this is where this moron Joy Reid, who still somehow gets an opportunity to talk what she doesn't understand. I say this all the time, the Middle East is not the Midwest. She thinks in her peanut-sized brain with her blonde wig that she understands jihadist mentality. You don't. The Middle East is not the Midwest. You're assuming, you're basically living your life based on the premise that they have the exact same values and principles that we have in the West.

They don't. They have jihadist tendencies and jihadist ideology. This is a clash of civilization and a clash of culture. Understand that. So when Trump is pro-Israel, of course, Joy Reid takes the pro-Iran position. And naturally she starts deducing, well, yeah, maybe it'd be great if they had nuclear weapons. Really? Because that worked out really well in North Korea versus South Korea, right? Take a look at those images at night. So she's basically operating on the premise that they

have the same mindset as us. No. Israel loves life. United States loves life. Jihadists worship death. In Judaism, if we're gonna give cheers, like in Italian, what do you say if you're gonna have a cheers? You're gonna say, hey, what do you say? Salud. In Judaism, you say this, you say L'chaim to life Jihadists worship death. That's what you don't understand. The cornerstone of their mindset is martyrdom Jihad Paradise 72 virgins pay for slay human shields. It's a completely different ideology. So now you're Operating on the premise that you want to give them nukes

It makes zero sense and Israel who is basically our proxy in the region, will never stand for that. Vinny. Well, first, I want to say that the bigger problem with the whole situation is that there's still people inside the Trump administration, which I know is going to be there, that are still trying to undermine the administration. Okay, the deep state is still real. You have people inside that the FBI right now is investigating. They're gonna try to find out who's leaking this information, which is inaccurate, and it's jumping the gun, no pun intended, because when they're saying, you know, there's weeks, they still have to find out

for weeks what's happening. Yes, we have reports that there was satellite imagery of a bunch of trucks, Tommy, coming up, possibly taking out uranium, which one thing I'm gonna criticize is like the heads up, Pat, the warning, the Trump, the tweeting, everything. If you give an enemy such a heads up like that, they're gonna take shit out of the ground. They're gonna move out of there. And I did a little bit of research, Pat, the bomb that we used, the 30,000 pound bomb, how deep do you guys think it goes into the ground?

How deep, how many feet? Nine meters, so whatever 90 meters is, if two meters is six feet, 270 feet. Okay, so great, average 200 feet, and if it's 60 plus feet for reinforced concrete, the Fordo fuel enrichment plant was 250 to 300 feet deep. Okay, even if we're not hitting the actual site itself, everything else is destroyed. The odds of you even getting-

Yeah, but Iran's known for having strong concrete. 100%. So opposition is saying the fact that because Iran has the best concrete, it's not going to make it all the way down to the facilities where they're having the uranium, and then you're hearing the stories about how they moved 400 kilos of uranium to a complete different facility so nothing got hit. That's what some people are saying. And that's why we have to give them a little bit of time especially when it comes to the assessment of weeks to find out.

And I get it. I know what people are going to say, well you can't trust the government with all the reports and everything like that. But I'm just saying from that point of view, they disrupted it. If it was, as Bibi and all them said, they were weeks away from making a nuclear weapon, this has at least slowed them down. Okay. I mean, the last thing you're going to have to do is what?

Send ground troops, hopefully not American, to go and find out now the site, because now you can't just satellite to see what's happening down there. You have to send boots on the ground to see what's happening down there. You have to send boots on the ground to see what's happening down there. At least out of this whole thing, there was the most minimal civilian casualties. I mean, if you wanna count anybody that's down there, any nuclear people that are working on a nuke to freakin' attack America,

but I think it's gonna take a couple of weeks to find out if it's actually real and if they still have, if they moved anything from the site. Yeah, and then, by the way, this leads to President Trump, who's being asked about regime change, and this is what he had to say about the fact that he doesn't want regime change. Watch this here.

Do you want to see regime change in Iran? No. If there was, there was, but no, I don't want to. I'd like to see everything calm down as quickly as possible. Regime change takes chaos, and ideally we don't want to see so much chaos so we'll see how it does you know the Iranians are very good traders very good business people and they got a lot of oil they should they should be fine they should be able to rebuild and do a good job they're never gonna have nuclear but

other than that they should do a great job yes the challenge then becomes if you don't open up yesterday I put a tweet out at 1.30 in the morning, or one o'clock in the morning. I don't know what time it was. I'm up there just going through a bunch of different things and preparing for today. Today happens to be Tom's oldest daughter's birthday. Shout out to Bailey.

Bailey. Happy birthday, Bailey. It happens to be my youngest daughter's birthday, Brooke. Brooklyn! And it happens to be our anniversary today. My wife and I 16 years. So happy birthday, Bailey. Happy birthday, Brooke. Brooklyn. Happy anniversary, Jennifer Bay. So last night, one o'clock, I'm going through it and you're talking about regime change and all the stuff that's taking place,

right? And the president said what he said there about the fact that he doesn't want chaos So who doesn't want chaos? He doesn't want chaos. He doesn't want regime change or the Iranian people don't want regime change. What did he say? He doesn't want chaos. He doesn't want of course. He doesn't of course, but what do Iranians want? Okay, they want change They want chaos. They want change. I put this up last night Because a guy said something about me. Can you go back to Rob? I want to put the put the tweet right before the one that I put this up last night because a guy said something about me. Can you go back to Rob? I want to put the tweet right before the one that I put up. I just want to call this out. Because if this, the Iranian romanticizers, put that up there so I can read that.

Patrick with his political literacies at the level of Wikipedia, he has no national political agendas other than increasing his audience and securing sponsors. Therefore when he passionately slams leadership capacity of Prince Reza Pallavi, it is undoubtedly driven by business interests. Now here's what this guy, and I don't blame him for not knowing what he's talking about. My response to him was, I don't know who you are. I really don't want to open my mouth about who for decades used their last name to collect money from innocent Iranians. But if the pressure comes, I will gladly open my mouth. I will bring receipts soon if these lies continue about us doing it for money.

Whether it's, I'm taking one minute I'm taking money from Israel, the next minute is I'm taking on Massad, the next minute is I'm Iranian, the next minute is I'm on Nayak, the next minute is I'm pro-Reza Palavi monarchy coming back, the next minute we're taking money for sponsorship. And what's funny is we don't take money from any sponsorship. This is why we sell our stuff. We're proud capitalists. By the way, what is his name, Majid?

Here's what we'd like to see happen. Your country right now only has $350 billion in GDP. We'd like to find a way to 7x that so Iranians can make some money because capitalism can solve a lot of problems in Iran. So I wrote this and I said Iran deserves better leadership. There's so much untapped potential in Iran. Here are a few things to consider. A resource rich nation with a starved economy.

How does a country with ranked fifth in natural resources, population of 92 million, talented people only produce 400, that's less than Walmart, Amazon and Aramco produce per year. And by the way, in Apple it's 390 billion, so Apple almost is bigger than Iran's GDP. So Iran and the entire country produces less than a single corporation. How is that possible? The answer is big. The current regime is suffocating the nation's potential. With the right leadership, the economy can explode to $2 trillion in no time, unlocking

unprecedented prosperity for its people. Two, geopolitical goldmine. Iran is one of the most strategically located nations on earth. Whether you're in China, Russia, Europe, Africa or Middle East, you have to go through Iran. Now imagine if Iran were wide open for business. Three, a sleepin' giant for global tourism. In the 70s it was one of the global destinations, drawn nearly a million tourists per year,

including celebrities, business elites and world leaders. It offers stunning mountains, rich ancient history, world class museums, incredible cuisine, music, culture and yes, some of the most beautiful women in the world. Iranian women, man, they're beautiful. Iran has everything except for freedom. Iran doesn't need a monarchy or a theocracy. That's not popular for a lot of people that are fans of Reza Pahlavi, that they want him to bring back the monarchy.

You don't need a theocracy. You don't need a monarchy. My opinion, you can trash this and tear it apart. This is my opinion. The concept that U.S. had the no-kings protest, they should do that in Iran, is more relevant to Iran than anywhere else. Iran needs to scrap its current structure and start fresh like a startup, bring together modern founding fathers to draft a new constitution based on liberty, equality and democracy,

hold real elections, guarantee freedom for everyone, partner with the West is the fastest way to rebuild. You can't chant that to America, one day negotiate with the U.S. next day. That's not diplomacy. That's delusion. If Iran builds bridges, not walls, business will flood in. A free Iran could be the key to peace in the Middle East. That's simple.

Only question is who's going to rise up. So when I put that up there, you see this and you'll see, oh my God, how dare you do this? I can't, the romanticizers of Halabi and David, you don't want to tell my mom. He's going to be like his father. He's not his father. He's a sweet man, nice man, smart man, wants to make his mom happy, wants to make his dad proud that he's no longer here, but he's not going to get the job done as a person and some of them will let him just get in and then we'll figure all the rest out. No! A person that's an influencer is not going to sit there and say, oh yeah, yeah, let's

just do that and let's get in and then we'll get the job done. You know who said that? Nancy Pelosi said, well, we have to pass it so we see what's in the bill.� That's what we got to do. �We'll find out what's in it afterward.� So to me, while this is going on, a lot of Iranians are seeing, is someone going to close this out? By the way, if again, Iranians, if again, if again, this is the closest you've been in 46 years, if again, this doesn't succeed, who are you blaming? Go ahead. This is the closest you've been in 46 years, if again this doesn't succeed,

who are you blaming? Go ahead. This is the closest you've been in 46 years. If this doesn't happen again, whose fault is it? You're not going to put it on Pat Levy? Who are you going to put it on because that's your face? Go ahead. Put it on somebody.

Who will you put it on? The Indiana Pacers lost. Who do you put it on? Well, injuries. Fair game seven. Halliburton brought it all the way to the top. Minnesota was supposed to go to the championship and become the Michael Jordan, right? What's his name?

Anthony Edwards. What happened? Oh, it's not his fault? It's not his fault. Oh, he's a seasoned player. I got you. Let's not put the responsibility on anybody. By the way, he had a video that he posted yesterday, Rob, if you can go to his ex account.

And again, sweet man, nice man, smart man, capable man of being someone that can help out with history. But this is what he posted yesterday. If you can go a little bit lower, there was a video right there. And watch this one here. Open it up. Let's watch this. Go ahead.

Excuse me. Why are you walking so close behind me? Well you're a tall guy. You throw a decent shadow and I'm walking in it to keep out of this bright sun. It hurts my eyes. Okay, well you know at Specsavers you can get two pairs of glasses from $149 and oh you'll like this. One can be a pair of prescription sunglasses.

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1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, We stand at a crossroads. One road leads to bloodshed and chaos, the other to a peaceful and democratic transition. The difference in these two roads depends on one factor, and one factor alone, whether the current regime in Iran is allowed to survive. Watch this. If the West throws the regime a lifeline, there will be more bloodshed and chaos.

Okay. So he gives a message like that, which is to say, this is the closest they've been. He needs US's help to get the job done. Great. But would you watch that? Does that sound like somebody that is intimidating that someone is going to get the job done. Great. But would you watch that? Does that sound like somebody that is intimidating that someone's gonna get the job done? No, it sounds like somebody that has the history,

that can play a very good role. I had a call with somebody yesterday. We know what the entire conversation was about for an hour. The conversation was about, this is one of the guys I love to work with. And the deal he struggles with, this is why I have so much respect for Tom. What he struggles with is to follow in Vinny.

He wants to be a number one. But he really is a number four. But he has ambition to be the number one. No, he's not a number one. Does he want? No, he does not because the pressures of number one, not everybody wants. It sucks. Because all the attacks come to you and all the pressure comes to you

Some people simply do better being two three four five six seven eight and by the way They shine more as a two three four than they do as a one Paul George said I was never I was never a number one to win a championship my record says it if I was a one I would have won a championship. I didn't win it. He didn't win as a one. He needed to be a two or three. This guy is a very good two, three, four, but not as a one, to get the job done, Iranians.

You're going to keep coming at me and posting stuff and eventually I'm going to really start saying stuff. And my challenge to all of you guys is, here's what I'm tempted to do, Vinnie Tom. And I haven't even told you guys is right now, here's what I'm tempted to do, Vinnie Tom. And I haven't even told you guys this. I'm tempted to see about holding a leadership meeting for Iranians, some of the smartest, most influential Iranians, at our office, at the hangar, private, no cameras, nothing, everybody has to put their phones in, security, we come in, nobody has anything, we just sit there and we talk. What some of their ideas are.

I think to identify who that person is going to, I'm at that point, I have too many things going on that the chance of me doing this is less than 5%. But that thought crossed my mind. Right now we've got all these things we're doing, family, kids, businesses, all these other things. But it's at that point. Because if you're not going to hold a meeting to rally and unify everybody so we can get on the same page and identify where we're going, what the hell are we doing?

And if you can't hold a meeting, it's because you don't carry that kind of weight anymore. If you call a meeting and you don't carry the weight of people coming, what happened there? Maybe you lost it. Maybe you're not the guy. Maybe you're not the person. So it's a very interesting season right now. So I get it for U.S. and Trump, what he's saying, but Iranians are fed up and they want

that $350 billion of GDP to turn into $2 trillion. That opens up opportunities, places you live, schools your kids go to. Anyways, we'll see what's going to happen with Iran if, Adam, go ahead. Yeah, I encourage PBD to have that meeting and if you're gonna do that meeting it needs to happen immediately Because there's something called Carpe Diem and that sees the day Here's the biggest challenge that the Iranian people are gonna face right now This story is the number one story in the world. You know what's gonna happen in a week in two weeks It's gonna be

Yesterday's news and everyone's gonna be yesterday's news. And everyone's gonna forget about the people of Iran. You bring up a great point here. Is this what Trump wants? Does Trump want to get out of this mess, this conundrum of the Middle East? You bet he does. He wants to set his sights on China. And that's what the America First agenda really wants to focus on, not Middle East quagmires.

But what do the Iranian people want? The Iranian people want to be free. Now is the time. I'm telling you right now, if this doesn't happen in the next few weeks, this ain't happening. Peabody is absolutely right. This is the closest the Iranian people have been to being free in 46 years.

And my thoughts are, unless they take advantage and seize the day in Carpe Diem, they're never going to have freedom ever again. So who benefits from everything that just happened in Iran? Well, Israel definitely benefits because they've eliminated a nuclear holocaust. USA benefits because they've eliminated a potential threat that sows chaos all around the world. The world benefits.

We don't need to have a nuclear Iran despite what the moron Reid has to say. But you know who definitely doesn't benefit if this thing does not work out in their favor? The actual Iranian people. Because you're starting to see stories that the Iranian regime is starting to take it out on the people who have been cheering and protesting against the regime. So this is a great case for the Second Amendment, by the way, because that doesn't exist in Iran.

So I don't even know how they're going to rise up. PPD, last point, you bring up a great point. The GDP of Iran is set to soar. I don't know if we can have time to play a clip, but there's an American-Iranian businessman who talks about the economic dynamism that could potentially take place in Iran if they basically take the stranglehold of the noose that is around their neck away from the Ayatollah He talks about catching up to the UAE Qatar and in Saudi not in 46 years in Basically five to seven years. So the Iranian people want to be free. They're a

great people Ingenuity smart they're just being held hostage by the Ayatollah. Yeah, and unless they take advantage of it You know what's interesting with what you're saying here. Here's what's interesting with what you're saying here Guess who wants those sanctions to remain on Iran? Guess who wants Khomeini to keep saying death upon America Guess who wants Khomeini to keep making fun of Trump? Guess who wants Iran and US's relationship to continue to be bad?

Guess who wants that? Qatar, Saudi, Venezuela, everybody else that doesn't want another competitor in the oil market. That's right. That's exactly who also benefits from it. So the, what do you call it? The connect the dots game. Like if you go play American gangster

where he's like Russell Crowe sitting there saying, oh my God, it's Frank Lucas, that's really the person behind Blue Magic. If you connect the dots, there are a lot of people behind closed doors that want the sanctions to remain, that don't want it to open up because they're going to take some business away from them. They don't want that competition. These sanctions are perfect to not have any competition. So if Iran does become free, does Saudi fully want that? Do they maybe?

Does Qatar really want to lose that business? Do they really, really want to have Iran that's got influence over Strait of Hormuz, fifth of the oil supply that moves from it? Do they really want that place to be free? There's a part of it where it's kind of like � you know how some people are like, man, I hate the fact that this is going on to New York? And the same people that hate the fact that what's going on in New York right now that's about to become the next Dearborn, London and Detroit, they're saying, I hope it happens

because I just want them to realize what they voted for. I hope it happens. So it's like this thing that's like, you know, and there's a group of people that are like that I hope it happens I like I hope they figured out because I don't want these crazy people from New York to come to Florida and flip the state I don't want you to come to Florida stay in New York. I hope it doesn't happen So these Saudi Qatar states are like, yeah, we want it to be peaceful We don't want them to have nuclear weapons.

Can we kind of keep the sanctions on them so we can keep getting this business that we're making? This is the part. So to get the job done, someone's got to be able to rally this whole thing to make it happen. But anyways, we will see what's going to happen. We'll continue. I'm going to get to the next topic here of daddy.

Daddy. Trump was called daddy and not by his wife. Somebody called Trump daddy. And this is NATO. And he's being asked this question and the President is laughing. Okay? I don't think this is the one drop. Oh, this is where he calls him daddy and then it goes to the next one.

Watch this clip here, folks. Go for it. I mean, we may do papers on it, Marco. Maybe we're going to do papers. I don't even know if you need them. They're not going to be fighting each other. They've had it. They've had a big fight, like two kids in a schoolyard.

You know they fight like hell. You can't stop them. Let them fight for a place. They're going to fight for a place. They're going to fight for a place. They're not gonna be fighting each other. They've had it They've had a big fight like two kids in a schoolyard. You know, they fight like hell You can't stop them let them fight for about two three minutes Then it's easier to stop them then daddy has to sometimes use strong language Daddy it wasn't called Like it's not like colorer Daddy or Call Trump Daddy, but it was Daddy's got to get it done. But watch this here.

This is such a funny moment and the best part about this clip is try to watch Marco Rubio trying to keep a straight face. Watch this folks. Go ahead. Focus on Marco Rubio. Mark Rutter, the NATO chief who is your friend. He called you daddy earlier. Do you regard your NATO allies as kind of children? No, he likes me.

I think he likes me. If he doesn't, I'll let you know. I'll come back and I'll hit him hard, OK? No? He did. He did it very affectionately. Daddy, you're my daddy. Do you regard your NATO allies, though, as kind of like children?

And they're obviously listening to you and they're spending more and you're obviously appreciative of that, but do you hope that actually they're going to be able to defend themselves, defend Europe on their own without... I think they need help a little bit at the beginning. All right, so that's that part about the daddy conversation of going back and forward, which is kind of interesting to watch. What's this one, Rob?

So this is Mark Rutte, the NATO national security advisor who called Trump daddy in the first place and here he is explaining why he does believe that Trump deserves the daddy title. Go for it. Deborah Haynes from Sky News. Hello. The language that you have used when talking to Donald Trump has been notable because of its flattery. Today you called him daddy.

You sent a text message to him that was gushing with praise. Is this the way that you feel you have to act when doing business with the US president through flattery and praise? Isn't it a bit demeaning and doesn't it make you look weak? No, I don't think so. I think it's a bit of a question of taste, but I think he's a good friend and when he is doing stuff which is forcing us to, for example, when it comes to making more investments, would you ever think that this would be the result of this

summit if he would not have been elected president? Do you really think that seven or eight countries who said, yeah, somewhere in the 2030s we might meet the 2%? We've now all decided in the last four or five months to get to 2%. Thank you. Doesn't he deserve some praise? And when it comes to Iran, the fact that he took this decisive action, very targeted, to make sure that Iran would not be able to get his hands on a nuclear capability.

I think he deserves all the praise. Rob, you can pause that. How big of a deal is this, Tom, that he's getting? Just a few years ago, he's calling our neighbors like, what's the big deal? Leave them alone. And I'm like, oh shit, we're paying more. They're not paying. Why are we paying it?

Why should we worry about it? They're your neighbors. How big of a deal is this that even now they're flipping leaders are defending Trump? Well, I think there's two key angles here. One, there is a demonstrative change that is happening in the way that the foreign leaders and people are responding to Trump. It is different than it was 60 days ago. It's especially different when it was days ago, and very very different from when he first stepped in, was talking about tariffs, everybody around the world.

This crazy person is talking about tariffs. There has been a big change in that. The second line is, look at the bias of Sky News, that's from the UK. Look at her bias. Oh, you're calling them your children, isn't that disrespectful? And then she's talking to him, oh, don't you think that looks weak? This is not a media searching for an answer. This is not a media looking for how do we get this together to build economic stability to the benefit of all people? This is media looking for a cheap headline as this liberal reporter from Sky News has the opportunity to ask questions of two of the major leaders on this stage.

She chooses that? That's what she chooses? I have zero respect for her as a reporter. You have an opportunity to cover such big issues. Oh, and you focus on daddy because you're trying to instigate it. Anything but Trump. Anything but Trump. Do you think she was being unfair? You you think she was being a little unfair trying to look for a sound bite? I'm going to hold back. But yes, and I think Do you guys know each other? Don't hold back, Tom. It almost seems like it's personal. No, I think that reporter is What's her name? Can we look up this? She is emblematic of what is wrong. Look, the

press of Walter Conkright looked for the story. The press of the history looked to bring transparency to the people. She looks to bring controversy, and she's not alone. She is no different from Joy Reid, a liberal press trying to go after leaders and create headlines and controversies when there's really nothing there. And mind you, he didn't call him daddy. He's saying in regards to how he's handling it, they would consider him daddy. She tried to leverage it. Do you think that children...

Yes. No, I think that you're being completely immature and childish in the way you're trying to approach this. Meanwhile, it just grates on the media that the world leadership is starting to coalesce and starting to show some respect and starting to come together. Because you know what they're thinking?

You know what the media is thinking in their rooms when they do prep? They're thinking this, oh shit, it's working for them. That's right, they're getting along. They're getting progress being made and they do not want that because they need a little bit of the division. I don't know your relationship with that lady It's working for them. That's right. They're getting along. They're getting progress being made. Oh God. And they do not want that because they need a little bit of the division.

I don't know your relationship with that lady, whether you guys went to school together, any of that stuff, but I agree with the part on what you're saying, the fact that this is bringing nations together. There was a moment that I want to share with you that got, it's a very emotional moment and this lady is talking to the president about her husband being at war and it's such a beautiful exchange. It's such a beautiful, innocent exchange. Rob, I texted it to you.

If you can pull this one up, we've moved on from CSUN. I just want you to go. If you can pull this up on the clip, I literally just texted it to you right now. So this reporter is asking a question. She's from Ukraine. Okay? She's concerned for her husband. And look at her president response.

I love this. Go for it. Q Where are you from? Q I'm from Ukraine. So my question to you is whether or not the U.S. is ready to sell anti-air missile systems, patriot to Ukraine. We know that Russia has been pounding Ukraine really heavily right now. Are you living yourself now in Ukraine?

My husband is there. Wow. I can see you're very, you know, it's amazing. And me with the kids, I'm in Warsaw, actually, because he wanted me to be. Is your husband a soldier now? He is. He's there now?

Yeah. Wow. That's rough stuff, right? That's tough. And you're living here? In Warsaw. And you're a reporter? I am.

Good. So let me just tell you, they do want to have the anti-missile missiles, okay, as they call them, the Patriots. And we're going to see if we can make some available, you know? They're very hard to get. We need them too. We were supplying them to Israel, and they're very effective, 100% effective, hard to believe how effective, and they do want that more than any other thing, as you probably know.

That's a very good question. We appreciate it. And I wish you a lot of luck. I mean, I can see it's very upsetting to you. So say hello to your husband, okay? Thank you. You can see... I love...

Listen, with all the stuff that's happening, that's a genuine... Like, he actually gives a damn about people. I get it. I get it. It's a crappy situation with everything that we've done with that war. But when he's actually like, so where are you? Is he here? Is there...

Nobody gives it... Nobody really gives a shit He actually does care and that's why I love it. It was a great moment Adam your thoughts on that moment there so I'll tell you a funny story one time I'm Looking at my phone. I get a call and a text and it's it's from someone named daddy and it said come to my office right now That was PBD, I don't know. Somehow PBD is in my phone as daddy. But here's the deal. When daddy calls, you pick up the damn phone and you listen. This whole conversation around daddy. I know that they're making a joke. Oh, he's a daddy. Trump is your daddy. You know, there's the famous podcast call her daddy. No, no, no, no. Call him daddy. That's who Trump is at this point. So NATO's

calling him daddy. The Latinos in Miami are calling this point. So NATO's calling him daddy. The Latinos in Miami are calling him poppy. You know, Usher had a song called Daddy's Home. They're playing that left and right on the interweb. Trump's the man. Trump, undisputably at this point, much like, not like 2016, Trump is the number one leader in the world unquestionably. In 2016, when Trump was the president, he was getting basically

dismantled left and right by his own party, by the Democrats, by the swamp, by the media. This time Trump's coming in and going, you, I'm the man and I'm gonna do whatever I need to do to make the world a better place and protect America and utilize America first. So it turns out that everything that Trump said in 2016, a lot of it is right. Drain the swamp. Well, it turns out we need to do that. Build the wall. Turns out we need to do that. And in this particular case, make NATO pay. That's exactly what's happening because, you know, everyone's talking about the daddy thing, but here's the three biggest

takeaways that happened at the actual meeting. Number one, NATO agreed to up their defense spending from 2% to 5% in the next 10 years. So 2035. So what? You were paying a billion dollars, now you got to pay two and a half billion dollars for your defense? Yes. Their fair share.

Whatever it is, their fair share. Pay your fair share. Make NATO pay. Number two, Trump doubled down on exactly what he did in Iran. The world is a safer place. Pete Hegsack came out and exactly what he did in Iran. The world is a safer place. Pete Hegsek came out and said what he had to say. But the last part here, the guy that called him daddy, his name is Mark Root. He's the attorney, the secretary general of NATO.

He basically came out and said, thank you daddy, for coming here and saving NATO. So, you know, there's a whole conversation of like, Anthony McAneath talking about make daddy a sandwich, make daddy a sandwich and let Trump keep doing Trump. That's daddy's home. This episode is brought to you by DZONE. For the first time ever,

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Boom, boom, boom, boom. By the way, tell them the whole story about why the phone said daddy. Because the user on Apple, when I was flying, it wouldn't let me text and one of my accounts from 20 years ago, 15 years ago, has daddy in it. But that's a completely different story. Okay, Papi.

I see what's going on. So we're going from Papi Chulo. Papi Chulo in Miami. What happened? Let's change it to a completely different story Tom. I'm going to go to the story about Rogan and Liver King. I don't know if you guys are following this closely or not. Rogan is out there minding his own business and then all of a sudden, here's a story, Daily Mail, Netflix star is arrested for unhinged threats to Joe Rogan. Alright, now Joe Rogan, why would you do that to Joe Rogan?

Joe Rogan is a nice guy, loved, I think he's the one guy that's loved, liked and respected. He's a trifecta, he's got all the three of them right there. So Rogan gives, Brian Johnson, known as Liver King, a disgraced influencer was arrested in Austin, Texas for making a terroristic thread, really they're using that word, against podcaster Joe Rogan with Johnson posting a video from a hotel room saying, I challenge you today, Joe Rogan, I'm here at Four Seasons in Austin, I'm in the shower, in the shower, he asked, I don't even think he showered, he said he didn't shower, right? No.

F.U., Joe Rogan, you guys can call the cops after blaming Rogan for exposing his 2022 steroid scandal, Johnson threats, included a video where he danced in what appeared to be two gold-plated guns wearing a, Rob, do you have all the videos? I've got the threatened to kill anybody. I've not threatened to kill, Rob, just play this clip because I almost can't read it.

Go for it, Rob. Okay, real quick. PS, PS. What I'm hoping is that you, Joe Rogan, are thinking, I'm going to choke that motherfucker out, lights out, I'm going to choke him out. And I kind of hope that if you win, that's how it happens because to wake up from that dream, that's a good feeling. And then anything else that you could break on me, break it on me. I hope that you won't feel me

tap. That's never happening, tapping, because I have something actually to fight for. Actually, that's my family. I have a principle to fight for that's what I'm And oh well, what if he actually does what he's saying? What if what if that would be interesting? That would be interesting? What do you have to fight for you're fighting? I hope you're mad you should choke me out. You know how to do that. Are you you're trained? You're trained You've got a black belt black belt in jujitsu I hope you choke me out, and if you don't choke me out These other limbs will be interesting should be very interesting

That's the PS. It's just I already thought about my game plan. I don't have a plan. I'm not gonna train I'm not gonna train But I hope you've been training With the cockroach there's a clip what's this? There's another one with a cockroach I don't have the cockroach. I just texted it. Okay. What's this one? This is another weird clip from Austin He's waiting for Rogan. I believe this is before he left for Austin. This is him at his home where he I'll show Because Joe Rogan we don't have to make videos to pretend anymore.

Looks totally normal. All of this is happening. We're coming to you. Totally sane. I challenge you man to man to a fight. Honorable. It's so gorgeous. And we don't have to pretend or make any videos. The world is watching.

They'll make the videos for us. And you don't have to hold a camera. You can hold the hand of somebody that you love because what happens next to you you're gonna need to remember that feeling you're gonna need something more than what you did to give you something to fight for because I have my family to fight for Rob okay go to the go to the cockroach one because this one throws me off a little bit I'm trying to really something's I mean look I don't you know have you ever befriended a cockroach? This is the first time I've ever seen somebody

make a friend with a cockroach. But I mean, everybody has different... Yeah, relationships. Like we were in Mexico at Oaxaca. Was it Oaxaca? No, we were in Guerrero. We were eating, Mario was having mezcal, this is many years ago, and we were eating crickets and it was delicious with lemon and... Really? Yeah, but I've never befriended a cockroach. And in Iran, there's a lot of... Like in Iran, ago and we were eating crickets and it was delicious with lemon and Really? Yeah, but I've never befriended a cockroach.

And in Iran, there's a lot of, like in Iran you would drink coke, 20% chance there's a cockroach. There's a roach in there. If you drank coke, watch, if you're Iranian, you know this. If you lived in Iran in the 70s and 80s and you drank coke, specifically 80s, 10-20% chance there was a cockroach and a coke. Seriously? If you could get past it, it's fine, but I never befriended one. Go ahead. Let's make it run great again. Let's get some cockroaches in sodas.

Watch this clip here. Very interesting. It starts today. I don't even know what day it is. But it's starting. And I'm not gonna go to sleep. And I am gonna sleep. I'm gonna rest, but right now I'm gonna fight. I'm gonna fight for my family, for what's right, and I'm not gonna stop. And I'm gonna fight until, until, oh, there's a cockroach right there. Where'd you go, where'd you go?

Oh, there you are. Yeah, oh dear, you little cockroach. Yeah, Oh, my friend. Do y'all see? Yeah Come here little cockroach You've never had that Okay, like you've never had that relationship completely lost his mind by the way, he got arrested I think right right I would happen. Can you go back? Is this it go for it shocker? arrested I think right right what happened can you go back this is it go forward shocker what happened here is this time this is him call the FBI yep I believe this is

at the hotel that he made the videos from he's being detained okay so that's that part and then there's one final quick video you have the Rogan explaining what happened. I could not find that I find it for you Okay, and I while we're looking for that. I have this this is after he was arrested He's wearing an ankle monitor while still in Austin, Texas and continues to threaten to fight Joe And before he plays it back mind you he has the bond set for $20,000 And yeah, the judge ordered him to stay 200 yards away from his family and surrender any firearms while he's going through mental health evaluation.

Go for it. Rogan versus Lever King. Again, it's not what you think. I'm talking about the filmmaker, the funny, the actual genius comedian, good and true. That guy's good and true. I'll pick a funny fight with him. So we're going to go there for that reason but

200 yards 200 yards Restrain myself. I must do what's anybody here's how we do it If anybody's last name is Rogan and you're in the capital of Austin, Texas Rogan and you're in the capital of Austin, Texas, by Capitol Hill stuff place like where they make laws like Rogan versus liver King were bullies that are big that don't just do good and true. Yeah, I don't know how to count. Well, first and foremost, I know that we're laughing and stuff, but I think this is really important to point out June is men's health, mental health awareness

month. Okay, no, I'm being dead serious. It's meant to highlight how serious this stuff is. Okay, we as men, we bottle stuff up way too long. You know, this month is about breaking that pattern. It's about, you know, reminding guys for asking for help. Is it weakness? It's survival.

Speaking of survival, it's a liver King. But remember, Pat, this guy's 47 years old. He built his brand on, you know, the raw meat, the caveman lifestyle. What was it, the tenements and all that stuff? He said he was all natural, but found out he was spending $11,000 a month on steroids, and it blew up in his face, cost him deals, his products all took a huge, huge hit, led to lawsuits, but if you haven't seen the Netflix documentary,, huge hit, led to lawsuits.

But if you haven't seen the Netflix documentary, it's really, really messed up. They got with these agencies to make them big and he blew up, but it was all on a lie. And I could only... How much was he spending on? $11,000 on juice time. I mean, you could obviously tell. Wow. And that's a photo of us right there.

That's no bite. Look at him. He still looks, he looked normal-ish for as normal as you could be no deodorant by the way I have to watch that one. Deodorant would just be $4.99 so it really wouldn't have taken a big hit to that budget. And look how tall he is. Yeah no he's Vinny look at that Vinny's 5'4". This guy is how tall is this guy? And Adams look at Adams gay and he was the furthest away from him. Adam normally when there's a guy with a shirt on, Adam's normally underneath him. But anyway.

Because there's a weapon of ass destruction in there. But guys, and on the opposite side, because how does this mental, something's gone. You can see behind his eyes, and you know what he did do, he took ayahuasca, I think in March or May, and I'm telling you guys right now, and people don't understand, that type of stuff can push you over the edge, okay?

It's not some spiritual harmless retreat. It cracks your mind open. It floods your brain with hallucinogens. Okay? It can break down your ego and forces you to face stuff, Tom, that's buried deep inside. And some think if you're not emotionally there, you know what I'm saying, Amelie? If you're on shaky ground, Tom, it can shatter you and then three weeks later two weeks later He was in Beverly Hills, and he broke after us. He was very quick. Am I right? He was in the streets going

I'm on it wasn't that long. It was just a couple of weeks wasn't it? Yeah, so something and guys and you saw it it was like an emotional nervous breakdown on Beverly and horrible, and I'm and I don't know listen. I'm not married I don't know how the relationship thing works, and he's the alpha he's in charge of the family but where's the family where's your wife where's your friends they should be getting involved. His kids were there on the podcast his wife showed up everybody was there and by the way right now Pat I feel like stop him. Yeah Adam go for it I got a few things I want to say about this which which is very difficult, but go ahead Adam Here's my thoughts on the liver king

so He's at the end of the day just a pure savage animal and I say that in a respectful way When he came to the podcast, I remember that podcast he came with his wife and kids the liver queen I believe is what she's called and his family, you know pvd you mention a movie all the time It's called primal fear Yeah with Richard Gere and Edward Norton you talk about that movie quite often. Yeah, aren't you? Yeah, but he's dealing with you're seeing the animal instincts of primal fear Don't get it twisted this this toughness this this this this rage Is masking his genuine primal fear that everything he's built and everything he's worked on in his entire family could potentially be taken away

Whether it's accusations whether it's steroids whether it's money His survival instincts are kicking in and he's using Joe Rogan as sort of the avatar for the world attacking him So in in my opinion, he is close to the edge him. So in my opinion, he is close to the edge because in his mind, his primal instincts are taking over. He fears that everything he's built will be gone and his love for his family is being masked by rage. Slippery slope that he's on and I wish him the best and I hope he gets out of this mess. It's not looking good. No, yeah and I was just trying to look and see if I can find that date. But it was just a matter of weeks where he just absolutely had a nervous breakdown,

where the whole, it seems like the curtain opened and they discovered that it was a charade, that it wasn't just eating mostly liver and other organ meats and working out. It was, man, that may have given you stacks of animal fat and protein and animal muscle protein, but you were just, you were juiced beyond juiced and to the point of having psychological effects on you.

And I felt bad. I actually felt bad. I don't have pity, but'm like wow, you know, the guy, the guy broke, the thing broke and now he's, he's searching for significant, he's lashing out. The most thing that was nearest was Rogan and it's just, it's terrible. By the way, you know what Rogan said? It's actually terrible to see this when it's... Rogan said everyone has been reaching out to have him on the podcast. He says friends

are even asking, hey, do you want to have liver King on the podcast or not? He says, no, I don't want to have him on the podcast. And that was kind of like one way of, you know, whether he was not happy about not getting on the Rogan podcast, et cetera, et cetera. It's kind of made him upset. It would break records. Yeah. I don't think it would actually. No, I actually, I actually think it's the opposite. I don't think it would break records. I don't think that many people are interested in this conversation. I don't think it's something that's gonna do extremely well. And I would be the one to say it. And I've spoken to Johnson many times, Brian, outside of our podcast, just basic

conversations, things that he, I haven't spoken to him for probably five, six months, seven months, but I've spoken to him outside of the podcast. Here's what I would tell you. You have to be very careful about it. The way life works and limelight works and attention works and success works, there is a documentary, if you've never seen it, I've recommended it to so many people and most people have never heard about it before. It's called The Provocateur. It's the story of Morton Downey Jr.

You've heard me talk about it three or four times. Whatever you do, go watch this documentary. Before there was Alex Jones, before there was any of these podcasters that are blown up, before there was Pat McAfee, before there was the Becks of the world, before there was any of these guys, there was a guy named Morton Downey Jr. And for 18 months, Morton Downey Jr. was number one. He beat Oprah Winfrey, he beat Montell Williams who used to be number one, he beat out so many people, it was insane.

And the way he did it was to evoke. He would instigate. He would get in Ron Paul's face. You ever seen a clip of what he does to Ron Paul, Rob? When Ron Paul was in his 30s, he went on Morton Downey Jr. Have you seen this clip? Rob Stewart No. Dr. Ely Svoboda Okay.

He would smoke like four or five packs a day. Rob Stewart During the show. Dr. Ely Svoboda Oh, no, no. This guy was a, this guy, Morton Downey Jr. So a young, can you find, is that the one, Rob? How many minutes is it? Oh, shoot. You got to go to, so fast forward when Ron Paul gets upset and he gets in the

space, right there, go back a little bit, go back a little bit, go back a little bit, right there, go back a little bit more, a little bit more, right there. Press play. This is how he was. Watch this. Press play. So this is who he was. He was a provocateur. And then eventually, you know how he falls?

Do you know the story about how he falls? So his ratings take a hit. And when his ratings take a hit, he's no longer getting the same attention that he did for about a month. Do you know the story, Rob? Or know what he does? He goes in an airport bathroom, asks his producer to shave a part of his hair, to cut some part of his hair, and put like with a marker swastika on his back, and says white nationalist right there,

look with swastika on his face, and claims that he was attacked at the airport by white nationalists, or Nazis or something, not Nazis, I don't know who it was Rob. And then- Trying to pull a Josie Smooland? He's in a Josie Smooland? Yeah, and by the way, blows like everyone's oh my god

You know because of what I'm talking about they hate me. They want to put stop me It's like holy shit this guy's blown up ain't it what ends up happening his producers like dude I can't keep this life for this long they go on Phil Donahue and he admits the fact that this was all I lie never happened This isn't new on what's going on with liver King There's nothing more addicting than attention. There's nothing more addicting than becoming a celebrity and people recognizing you and oh my God, there's nothing more addicting than a woman who does 78 surgeries to try to go back and look like the way she did at 25 years old because she misses that attention. The attention that you get eventually doesn't become the same.

And if you go like this and use something like you did, all you have to do is say, �I use juice.� That's all you have to do. All you have to do is, �No, I'm using� Remember when I talked about his abs, I'm like, �Dude, do you have something in here?� Like Oscar De La Hoya said, �What? I got a surgery done. Look at this. It looks good. All you have to do is be straight up about it.

But no, the attention got to him. It went. He didn't know how to handle it and unfortunately he's going through this right now and it doesn't look like it's going to end well. The way this story is going, it's going to end up being very nasty. I hope it doesn't end nasty. I hope the right people can get ahold of him. I hope that what you were talking about earlier, good friends come in and sit down and have a conversation

with you and things change. But till then, we pray for him and we hopefully, again, family, kids, wife, brothers, siblings, are able to get ahold of him and have a conversation with him. All right. But by the way, as much as this is a lot of hate that he got for it, I will still continue eating liver and I love liver. I will never get away from my juguette and I like to eat it super rare. I make it like 30 seconds. Boom, take it, boom, cut it, blood, we eat it. Grass-fed grass finish.

Can I apologize to Vinny real quick? I'm sorry for lashing out at you, man. I didn't mean that. It's okay. Part of why I said that was because when the liver king liver King was here Vinny you promised to bring us liver to the show and you've never done it and this was me house it's actually good point I apologize I'm an angry Jew and I wanted some folks and I do it and Adam I so angry patriot you'd understand no, I apologize for calling you homosexual even though it's pride mom

Sorry kill me now Stop it. Good. All right. I'm gonna get the next story here. I'm gonna get Daddy calm down Tom Austin midcaps suspected killer Indicted on first-degree murder charge in track stabbing. Go ahead and play the clip-rock. Go for it. Good afternoon. Earlier this spring our community was shaken by what happened at a school track meeting in Frisco. The violent loss of 17 year old Austin Metcalf. For weeks now my team has been presenting evidence to the grand jury and today I summarized that evidence and I asked the grand jury to return a first-degree murder indictment against Carmelo Anthony, which they did.

With this indictment, the case now moves formally into the court system. From this point forward, we'll continue doing our job both fully and fairly to pursue justice under the law. As for the scheduling of the trial, that will be up to the court. But when the time comes, we will be ready. Now we know this case has struck a deep nerve here in Collin County and beyond. And that's understandable. When something like this happens at a school event, it shakes people to the core. Let's remember that the justice system works best when it moves with steadiness

and principle. That's what we're committed to and that's what this case deserves. We're also mindful of Austin's family and everyone who loved him. Please keep them in your thoughts and if you're willing, your prayers as well. Finally, let's remember that a defendant is presumed innocent and less than until proven guilty in a court of law. You know what his voice sounded like? It was like a Sunday school for kids,

like a Sunday school teacher, like you're trying to put the kids to an hour nap. Yeah, I would have put me down. Tom's out. We pray in the. Tom's out. The 18-year-old athlete from First School, Canton Jones High School was indicted

of first degree murder, stabbing. Also made 17-year year old junior memory high school with Collin County, Conner District, Greg Williams. So Vinny, this story here, your thoughts on what we know about this story. Okay, actually, so remember when it first happened, and me and Tom were talking about this yesterday, everybody was all, especially the African American

community, especially those people, I don't know if it was his attorney or somebody, this freaking guy who's been arrested multiple times. I think it was attempted murder or something. Rob, if you could help me find out who this guy was. And the whole story was, as we always said, the black kid was the victim, okay? He was there, he was approached by the white guy,

the white guy tried to get tough, and he stabbed him in self-defense, okay? Now, allegedly, there's video showing that There was no threat that he was just standing there talking to him and this guy took out a knife that he brought to attract me For no reason video shows be not they're saying that they're like there's footage because Pat for them to come back with an indictment For first-degree murder. Yeah, you know what that means. They have sufficient evidence to say, okay meant for first-degree murder. You know what that means? They have sufficient evidence to say, okay, we're seeing what we're not seeing, what the public always tries to say, which it's sufficient enough to take it. And I

know this from people that are lawyers and one of them, Selena, who's on Manek, that they have to, they hate going to trial the state, Pat, if they don't have a home run hit, meaning they think that it's over 90% that they're gonna They're gonna win okay, and this kid died in his twin brothers arms Okay, and still the media tiptoed around it and tried to act like no I was just it was BS And this is what pissed me off the family pulled in $515,000 the public without knowing any evidence without seeing one freaking video They're like let's send this family money because we think that this kid is innocent so they paid for the legal fees the rent

Security relocated them to a gated community which I believe was $3,500 a month and the campaign was run by Jacob Wells, and they're not getting any of that cash until it hits $600,000 but anyway and just the bottom line is it's all smoke and mirrors Okay, the media would rather hype up the racism than show or wait for the evidence Okay, and it just drives me crazy that in those moments all the race all the race card gets gets promoted but nobody waits for the evidence and God the father of Jesse Metcalfe I still got to give that guy credit back, because regardless of everything that happened,

he did get a little bit choked up, but he said, we have to pray for this kid, we have to pray for this kid's family and hope that this kid sees the light, even though in the darkness of what he did, the crime that he did, because his father knows what was up, because his brother told him what happened. So that's... I just hope justice is done.

And again, I have to pray for this guy and hope that he finds some love in his heart for everything that he just did. And by the way, his gold found me, Rob. Is that correct that they raised, the gold was $1.396 million. They raised $538,000. Yep. Does that money end up going to them whether it gets finalized or not? I you think that money gets activated or no? I don't know if, that's a very good question. I don't know, I think you could just stop the campaign whenever you want, Robin, take the money if I'm not mistaken. Because I've done it when we raised the money for the guy.

And what is the level of accountability for the money? They don't give it, no, I don't think they give two shits. Once it's gone, Pat, all they worry about is the moment of okay transaction and give send go or whatever gets the money percentage And then it goes that all right to the to the family time you have thoughts on this yeah This is called due process and everybody says I was denied due process. I was denied due process Look this was not the DA bringing it this was a DA going to a grand jury and there were eyewitnesses but what there also was they were at a track meet and other people with camera phones taking pictures of their own children and things

happening and grand jury got a hold of the rest of that and saw him reach into the bag and do things. So the DA came back and said, I have a very strong case. And by the way, it's not just aggravated assault resulting in murder. No, it's not murder to getting angry and doing it. No, it's murder one first degree murder one is the highest most difficult bar requires revenge, premeditation, and specific intent that is fully planned and contemplated. And so due process took place here.

Because the process normally is you have arrest, you have booking, you have the district attorney, or in this case, a grand jury, coming make it down. But instead, we had a bunch of other steps inserted in there this grandstanding that's not part of due process spin by the media that's not part of due process creating raising a legal defense fund now this is legal it is perfectly legal to go to give send or other places and raise a legal defense fund if you think someone has been wrong and you don't want them to use the public defender you want to make sure they can hire other, you know, assumably

more competent people. But due process is flowing here. And the DA, I applaud him for being very measured and specific and then saying, you are innocent until proven guilty and this is the charge that we believe we're going to prove. But the next step is court. So I think we all have to remember there's another victim here, right? The victim is Austin Metcalf and everything that's there. But the other victim is whatever happened to this young man who's going to be on the permanent, you know, payroll of the U.S. government or the Texas correctional system to the tune of 45 to 50 grand a year for the rest of his life. And so you have to remember he's about to enter crime college.

And so I just see a lot of victims here. And what happened to this young man that he got himself to the point that before he's ever really a full-blown 21 year old you know individual out in society that he has the capacity to get to such a dark place and to go down and do this and so that's what I think for everybody complaining about due process it's here and Tom's got a temperature. I'm listening to you. Go for it. Sir. Sorry. So justice was served. What they tried to do as Vinny pointed out was try to make this into a race thing. They really tried to turn this into a race thing. You know, PPD on the podcast we did Tuesday, you talked about how

everyone has bias. Yep. You're so right. All right. This person has bias. What side are they on? How do they develop their relationships? What issues do they process bias bias bias. There's people out there that genuinely saw a black kid versus a white kid and they go I got the black kids back straight up. Doesn't matter that he murdered somebody. Doesn't matter that he just got convicted of first degree murder. I'm on his team. I'm going to donate money. What? So he tried to raise I think over a million dollars. They raised a half a million dollars.

There were people that were simply coming to his fence because he was black. There's no other reason. You just got convicted of first degree murder. By the way, the same people could also be guilty on the other side. There's people, oh, he's white. We got to defend the white guy. Let justice persevere. They call it blind justice. Justice was served. This gentleman, this young kid, this 17 year old ruined his life. He took somebody's life. He ruined the life of the family. This kid

had a twin brother, did he not, Austin Metcalfe? Twin brother. What does that kid have to do? What does that kid have to do when he looks in the mirror every single day and sees his brother's face, his dead brother's face? So justice was served. We all have bias and I think people should check their bias before they weigh in on situations. Am I biased on this because he's black or white or Christian or Jewish or Muslim? Probably yes. But thank God in the United States we don't care about bias. We care about justice. And just to clarify There was a go fund me set up for Carmelo Anthony

It was taken down once it reached six figures Estimated was about 160,000 before go fund me removed it because their policy bans fundraisers for violent crimes defense And to answer your question Pat, there is no automatic accountability for how the money is spent on give send go It's up to the fundraiser organizer to be transparent, but there's no built-in oversight. So as for the goal, you don't have to wait for it to hit the goal. You can access the cash whenever you want. And by the way, I appreciate Adam's point. I appreciate it, Adam. In the middle of your point, you may not have realized that you said convicted. He's actually been indicted and the next step is the full trial. Yeah. So okay. Thanks for that correction. We'll see what happened here. Next story I wanna get into, folks.

This is a story that may be a boring story, but it has to do with your money. You may wanna pay attention to it, because you have to understand them. So US liability insurance on virtue breakdown from tide of claims, okay, from tide of claims that they're getting, okay? And remember, all these people are in business

to make money. You have a job, you don't do all these people are in business to make money. You have a job, you don't do it for free. You work to make money so you can pay the bills. Companies build businesses to make money. And if they don't make money, they either go bankrupt, they sell to somebody else that has money, or they find a way to raise the prices, fire people, make some kind of adjustments. The U.S. Casualty Insurance market, which protects businesses against legal claims from employees, customers or other harm by operations or product, faces a potential breakdown with

Everest Chief of Executive Jim Williamson warning, it won't be a question of how much we're willing to pay. The cover won't be available. Prices rose 8% the first quarter, making 23 consecutive quarters of increases per March despite insurance introducing exclusions for claims like data privacy violations and forever chemical pollutants. Williamson noted, �No one will offer it at any price, citing a surge in payouts driven by what he called fraud legal systems, abuse and runaway jury verdicts.

Insurers are grappling with rising claims, promoting Everest to set aside $1.7 billion in reserves for losses and raise excess liability insurance rates by 20 to 25% annually, with Williamson stating that's an enormous inflationary factor for business. Tom, your thoughts on this. Well, first of all, there's two problems here. The first problem here is it's not the runaway jury. The runaway jury is it's not the runaway jury. The runaway jury is the end because that's a jury that's been selected, that the people who are empaneled to listen to a case and anybody who's registered to vote or have

his driver's license and is a citizen can end up on a jury. That's a jury doing its job and they call it runaway victim. The issue is the lawyers in that courtroom. And the lawyers in that courtroom, which they're referred to as white collar ambulance chasers, who are bringing claims against companies just for the insurance. And Pat, what's very interesting,

we'll say here full disclosure, over the years, we've actually done business with Marsh. Marsh has provided insurance to some of the nine companies that Pat has founded and led. And so what's interesting here, we've seen this firsthand, where they're saying, hey, guys, we're going to put the cyber insurance on a secondary policy. Remember that, Pat? If you will accept to the following limits and protect yourself in the following way. So we actually increased our own software and security so that we could get a better price,

similar to if you show your car has an alarm system, you're a good driver and you're in a locked garage, you can reduce the cost of your own car insurance because you're reducing the risk of loss. And so what's happening here is the US liability insurance companies are blaming it all on the attorneys that are bringing these cases and things here. That's only part of it.

The other part of it is greater education is needed with the companies that are insured. We went out and didn't just accept the bid. Pat always says, hey, get three bids for everything with the companies that are insured. We went out and didn't just accept the bid. Pat always says, hey, get three bids for everything and don't let a single vendor do business with you year after year and maybe get too comfortable assuming that you're just gonna say,

yeah, yeah, just renew me, just renew me, just renew me. You go out and do it. And so companies need to go out and find out the things we could do because we reduce some of our rates through active examination of our own self to make ourselves more appealing to to be assured but this is bad at the bottom line this is bad because you've got these companies are necessary

to cover business and it's a cost of doing business that if this cost keeps rising it shows up in the cost of the product. Yeah it does and and I remember for us when we would sell an insurance product of a company and we loved it. We do such a good job selling a product and all of a sudden they're like, nope, we're shutting down this product. Why? It's not profitable.

What do you mean? We've sold thousands of this policy. I know but it's not profitable. Remember the 35 year ROP that we have, return to premium that our guys used to love to sell. I can give you so many different annuities. Oh from a certain Midwest carrier. That's right. And all of a sudden, they would announce this.

So this happens, and typically the reason why this happens with insurance companies is because of abuse by customers or regulation because of states. So abuse by customers happens regularly. Abuse by states is what you notice happening with California where they're forcing them to not raise certain prices. And the fair plan. That's right. And the fair plan.

And Kerry's are just saying, I'm out of here. Adam, your thoughts on this here, on this story. Well, we've all been in the insurance business, Pat, Tom, myself. I don't know about Vinny, but I'm sure he got a discount double check from State Farm. Yeah. But, yeah. But we understand the basic premise of insurance. It's to protect your ass and your assets.

So I apologize, but you know what always happens? Shit happens. You ever heard that phrase before? Multiple times. Why do you need insurance? Is because stuff is going to happen that you're not planning for. So everyone has a plan, you know that whole phrase? insurance is because stuff is going to happen that you're not planning for. So

everyone has a plan, you know that whole phrase, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. Mike Dyson, life is going to give you lemons and you're not always going to be able to afford lemonade is what they're basically saying. You know I talked about the six principles of wealth and do these six things and then you're gonna be able to have financial freedom. Number five is insurance and protecting your ass and protecting your assets. We've seen Geico and all these companies try to leave California. Home ownership, home insurance, car insurance.

We devalue things that we don't necessarily want or need until we actually need them. I can't understate the importance of insurance and until it basically leaves your state, becomes unaffordable, you can't understate the importance of insurance and until it basically leaves your state becomes unaffordable You can't have it anymore. You don't realize what you actually need is the protection that insurance offers So this is just one more example of what's happening in the insurance markets Yeah, so listen I because I was gonna go to Vinny because Vinny had a very in-depth 20 page Sianse you Pat, but I don't want to do that. It's I have charge. I don't want to bore the hell out of everybody. No, I don't want to do that. It's too technical. I have charts.

I can't. It's too technical. I got diagrams. We don't want to do this anymore. With your permission, are you okay if we skip this? Yeah, because my numbers scream and Pat, today it's annoying. I don't want to do that. We could get you a whiteboard and you can calculate the loss for sure for us.

I'll do that. I'll do it in the How To F. Maybe over lunch. Let's go to this last story and we'll wrap up here. Rogan gives decisive take on MAGA's civil war on Iran. Bombing. Let me go over here. He only has two more months. If you listen to Chris Cuomo, he has two more months to being on top.

And then let's see if Chris' prediction comes to pass. Let me read this to you. Podcast of Joe Rogan, supported by the president and congressman Thomas Massie's opposition So funny. Right? Chris's prediction comes to pass. You are so funny. Let me read this to you. So, the podcast of Joe Rogan, supported by the retainer congressman Thomas Massie's opposition to President Trump's involvement in Israel-Iran conflict, stating on the podcast, you know, go ahead and play the clip. Go for it. Right here.

I think the whole MAGA thing right now is very divided, particularly because one of the things that they voted for was no war. Well, now it seems like we're in a war, right? So, and it's quick, we're six months in and that's already popped off. And then people are very concerned with now what happens to our troops overseas that are in these bases that are in vulnerable positions.

Is that the clip? That was it. Okay, so Vinny, your thoughts on this clip here by Rogan. Actually, no, Adam, I'm going to come to you first because this was your story. Go to Vinny first because I'm having some mic issues. Okay, pal. Let's just be honest. And how many times have I said this?

I've been supportive of Trump since 2016. I was in Los Angeles where it was not only not cool, people were punching people in the head for wearing red hats that won't even make America great again. I was freaking, they tried to attack but we were deeper, we know how to fight way better. I would get off stage at certain comedy clubs, I don't want to say the names, but if I said anything positive about Trump or anything, the owner, Tommy, would go up to me and be like, hey, you can't do this, and then I would have Persian, like I do like a Persian night at this place or Middle Eastern night. And there'd be guys up like,

meh you and Cherump, you can go to, and then it was funny once shit started going bad in California, he was like, you know what? F, Boydan, he would switch and so everything switched. But just, and this is what I want people to realize, you can like Trump, you can like the policies, which I love a huge amount of policies. If there's certain things that you don't like, that's totally fine.

You don't have to agree with everything. What's that blind loyalty pack? And I get what he's saying. I don't think it's that hardcore divided. People get disappointed because you want perfection. You want every single promise made. I personally, I want on top of everybody else. I want zero ground troops.

Everybody knows where I stand. I want zero ground troops. Everybody knows where I stand I want zero wars, but sometimes guys and it sucks to say it what Adam says shit happens Okay, and I've gotten to the point and I'm being I know people are gonna talk shit I'm not saying worse I still don't want no war but we have to understand when there's a freaking group of people if somebody walked up to us right now We're at this house and somebody goes yo You know what I'm gonna kill everybody in this house. Whenever I get a chance, whenever I get the guns, I'm going to come back here and kill everybody in this freaking house. I can't just go,

okay, yo, peace out, dog. We'll see you. No, no, that is a threat to me, Tom. And guess what? I take threats like that serious. So I can understand where people right now are like, no, and like, and I saw Candace's thing Jumping out and now and now saying that I regret telling people to vote or mad about the vote So you just forget about everything else you forget about the border you forget about the fentanyl deaths that are by the border is shut Down okay, the economy is coming back. I know we have clips We're not probably not gonna be able to get it. All the terrorists, everything is starting to come around. NATO, everybody's coming around. This one situation, which mind you, not one American soldier has touched ground, yet there

was two, I'm gonna say, let's say what? Tom, six to eight, maybe 10 people in the B-52 bombers going and coming back. And again, I don't want any new wars. This is something that the president, which I trust his judgment, let him cook at him. We always say this, let him cook. I trust him. He's America first. He gives a shit about people. And I love people who are trying to throw that whole, well, the Epstein thing and, you know, Elon said something so that means he's on the Epstein list and that's why he's kissing BB's ass. No, no. Donald Trump, I don't give a shit what

anybody says. Out of all of them, is America first. Go back and look at the footage from the early 90s, late 80s, I love America, I love America, and all the talk shows that won't even let his ass come on right now. He's America first, and yet people are disappointed, but disappointment doesn't mean regret your freaking vote

and jump ship. Stay the fucking course, sorry for my language, Pat, and let him do his thing, bro. America is a thousand times better than what it was the past four years with Joe Biden and the auto pen, all the shit that we found out that he wasn't even behind the wheel.

So that's how I feel. All right, Adam, thoughts. And by the way, is that right? You pulled up that clip, which clip is this? This is Candace Owen saying she regrets having people vote for Trump. Go for it, play the clip. You done with Donald Trump or could you see a way

that you would end up perhaps voting for him? Oh, yeah, he can't run again, obviously. But would you support him publicly again? I want to be clear. I don't regret voting for Donald Trump above Kamala. I think he was the better candidate, certainly a better candidate above Joe Biden. But what I will say is that he's been a chronic disappointment.

And I feel embarrassed that I told people to go vote for him because this wasn't going to happen and it is happening. But I just think that the picture of- Okay, Adam, your thoughts about what Rogan said and then what Candace said. Well, yeah, I wonder if Candace is going to take back her wrong words on that. I think she should because she's abandoning Trump. Nobody voted for you, Candace. Everyone voted for Trump. So what's getting lost in translation here with Trump, Trump's not a pacifist. Trump's

not a pussy. Trump recognizes the threat and will eliminate them. Wasn't Trump that took out General Soleimani? We talked about that the other day. Where were the foreign entanglements when he did that? Wasn't Trump the president who took out ISIS that Obama let occur in the Middle East and said it was a JV team? Wasn't it Trump that took out ISIS? Where were you on that? I think one thing's abundantly freaking clear, Tucker, Candace, Dave Smith, all the neo non-interventionalists these days, Trump is not George W. Bush. He's not gonna get us in endless wars.

He's not gonna continue the foreign entanglements. So when Trump promises no new wars, that doesn't mean he's not a pussy and that he's not going to fire a bullet or take out nuclear weaponry if it needs to be done. He's demonstrated the ability to act targeted and strategic and take out enemies and move the hell on. We're not putting ground troops in Iran.

That was never a thing. This outreach, oh my God, it's World War III. You need to get all your kids out of the, you need to de-enlist from the army. Stop it. You're selling fear porn to the American public that by the way, if you look at any fricking poll, is overwhelmingly in favor of making sure

that Iran does not get nuclear weapons. So Trump is not a pacifist. He'll do what needs to get done. He's running the show. No one else is Tucker Candace, Dave Smith, Trump's the man. And for all the people that voted for him, stick with your guy. I'm sticking with him. Thoughts Tom. So by the way, Candace, I'm not the last thing. Candace, just let me say one thing. I feel

bad for her. I'm sorry, but she was just recently Diagnosed with a severe condition. I feel for her. It's called IDS Israel derangement syndrome funny and it's lethal. It's deadly Trump talked about this Trump derangement syndrome You know first it takes over the mind and then it comes for the body and I wish her well I hope they can she can take some aspirin and get out of this But right now all she's doing is blaming everything on Israel and it's very unattractive Tom Well, I didn't hear that part in this particular clip and I'll just respond to this She's saying I don't regret voting for Trump

He was the better candidate over all of that Biden Kamala Harris and then she says I personally feel embarrassed that I encourage people to vote. So that's where I see a kind of the chasm here. And if I was sitting here having a cup of coffee with her, I'd say, Candice, you say you don't regret voting, but you regret getting other people to vote. Well, if those other people didn't vote, we don't get the outcome. It was something else would have happened. Don't you see that? Now I know you can say, now you feel like you're taking criticism because, oh, all these things are happening in Candace and you told us to vote for him. Well, what's the alternative?

And I think Candace needs to get back to that. What would have the alternative been? So I don't agree with this. I'm not gonna go heavy on the criticism, but I don't agree with the angle here. I'm not embarrassed that I convinced, you know, a particular member of my family to vote for Trump. I'm not embarrassed at all, because I'm sticking with the and I know this is like an MBA thing, trust the process because things are happening. And we started this podcast talking about how

things are coming together, things are starting to coalescealesce and so it's like and now let's look at it 60 days from now And then let's look at that 60 days after then and let's see what's happening in the middle of the fog of war Right now Kristi Noem made a comment about an agreement and things that are is very economically beneficial We just did with Costa Rica. So behind the fog of it all there's a lot of things going on And so I'm not embarrassed that I encourage a particular member to vote it. It's okay Costa Rica. So behind the fog of it all, there's a lot of things going on and so I'm not embarrassed that I encourage a particular member to vote it. It's okay. I don't think you should be embarrassed. It's gonna be okay. It's gonna be a gift for all of us. But here's what I would say.

It's okay. It's not your fault. You know what I look at when I'm looking at you on the picture. Tom, I'm gonna give you permission to say it's okay to vote for Trump. First of all, Adam, you have to, I love how you made sure Tom Statue was in the podcast with you because that's all I'm looking at when I look at the ladies. I'm right up there. Tom went next to Rocky. Exactly.

Right where I should be. But let me tell you guys about what Rogan said to Bernie and then what Candice said with Piers. Here's a couple of things to keep in mind. When it comes down to Candice, I don't know if Candice has to be worried about supporting Trump because I don't know if Candice really fully drove people to go vote for Trump. If I go back and recall, Candice wasn't fully, fully all in supportive, gunk-ho beginning to the end.

That did not happen. It wasn't a fully aggressive, hey, you know what I'm saying? Not at all. Not this time. I don't think she did that. I don't think she was. So she doesn't need to worry about that because she wasn't supportive and she didn't really push people.

Yes, when we did our election night and she was there and people were there and she posted a tweet I think that said, hey, congratulations, Trump won. Once it was over with, yes, he was very much in a celebratory mood and it was optimism, excitement, him, herself. Dave Smith was there and we had Alex Jones, Cenk Uygur, Dominic Tarjinsky. We had a lot of people there that day. I think we even had Brian Callan, Cuomo, a lot of people. Tom did a phenomenal job that night. But going back to that with Candice, I don't think I see Candice as she was like someone

that did and now it's a disappointment. Dave Smith at the Libertarian Conference, Trump was there, he brought Trump up, there was some booze, and then when Trump started saying stuff about getting rid of Gensler, and then everybody started screaming and then he said it again. That was a turn when things turned around. So Dave Smith, yes, supported a little bit more than Candice did publicly in my opinion, and I haven't watched all of them. There may be clips where it's full on Candice saying 100% Trump vote, all this stuff.

But let's go back to what Rogan said. I don't have any problem with it. I don't have any problem with it. I think Thomas Massey has a different position than the President. He's not supportive of the big beautiful bill. Thomas Massey is not for what AIPAC does. Thomas Massey is not a friend of AIPAC, nor supportive of what AIPAC does. And Thomas Massey has the

right to deliver his message and give his insight of what he believes is happening. And then this leads to what? Here's what this leads to, Vinny, Tom, Adam. All of this leads to everyone's number one issue. Some people's number one issue is what? Economy. That's most people. Some people's number one issue is what? Economy. That's most people. Some people's number one issue is what?

The border. No problem. Some people's number one issue was Israel. Okay? In 2028, we're going to find out how much American's number one issue is what your number one issue is. I'd love to see Thomas Massey run.

I'd love to see Candace run. I'd love to see JD run, Rubio run. I'd love to see Thomas Massey run. I'd love to see Candace run. I'd love to see JD run, Rubio run. I'd love to see Vivek Baghadid run. I'd love to see a lot of people run. And I'd love to see all these issues getting filtered out and see what happens. Make sense? And then you're going to sit there and say, whoa, I thought it was 50% of people supporting that issue.

It's really only 13%. It's not that big. Because we can post. The best way to test this, folks, it's really only 13%. It's not that big. Because we can post, the best way to test this, folks, it's such a weird dynamic, I can post the same thing on X and get 70% of people that will hate the same post and I can post it on Instagram and 80% supports it. It's like you're in two different countries, okay? And America is not all on X.

We all think that everybody on X is what determines what America is. It's not true. The climate on YouTube is different than the climate on LinkedIn is different than the climate on Facebook is different than the climate on TikTok is different than the climate on all these different places. You may post that same thing on X and miserably lose if you post it on LinkedIn. And on LinkedIn they're like, no, I'm actually not with it because LinkedIn voters are more what?

They're more logical business. They're like, no. And I guess who you're going to need? The job creators to support your positions. You're going to need the job creators to say, yeah, this is right, the investment and all this other stuff, that's true. And the job creator is going to be like, nah, I don't know if I'm with it. So I actually don't have any problem with everything that's taking place.

I think it's good to have the debate, the discourse, but at the end of the day, within time people realize who was right, who was not, who took the right position. In 2016 I can think about a lot of influencers that went hardcore against Trump and they lost seven years. They literally lost seven years and had to recover from it. Seven years later, I think that's going to happen in this next cycle as well, the next two, four, six, eight, ten years, to see where and what market, like what communities does the audience watch and say, this person or that

person seems to be the most willing to entertain opposing ideas and they have the ability to reason and they have certain biases, which is fine, and they're willing to present their argument and this is where I lean with them. I disagree with them here, but I agree with them here, but I think they're fair here. I think that's what the next phase is. This is the same reason why the Austin Metcalf and the Carmelo Anthony thing that they try to turn into the next, what do you call it, Jussie Smollett or the next, you know, next black-white division.

It didn't work because Americans are like, you've done this so many times, we're done with this. Same thing's going to happen in 2028 and I think Rogan is still going to be number one. I think this whole thing about what Cuomo's worried about, I think Rogan has still got an audience that's very different than everybody else's. Adam, I wanna go to the signatures before I wrap up. So that's the only thing I wanna go to before I wrap up.

Rob, what page is that one on? Can you tell me what page? Actually, you know what? Do I wanna go to signatures or teachers union? Vinny, do you have a lot of stuff on the signature stuff? I don't have a lot. I mean, I could just very briefly just say one of these. Rob, where's that signature article?

That is page 10 in the Joe Biden AutoPen section. All right, let's go to the Joe Biden AutoPen section. Where's that at page 10? I don't see the Joe Biden AutoPen. Oh, there it is, okay. So ex-Biden aide, Neera Tanden, tells oversight committee she was authorized to use AutoPen.

Whoa, little weird. Rob, do you have the clip of this? Yes, this is her outside of the testimony yesterday where she is asked if she helped in the cover up of Joe Biden's cognitive decline. Whoa. Go for it. I just spoke with the House Oversight Committee, Majority and Minority Council. I answered every question, was pleased to discuss my public service, and it was a thorough process, and I'm glad I answered every question. Oh, sounds...

Is there an evidence to disguise President Biden's condition? Absolutely not. Look at her walk away. Look at that. What did he ask? Were you helpful in the cover-up of Joe Biden's cognitive condition,

and she said, absolutely not, and then just walks right up. How am I like, OK, you want to talk about body language? Do you see that? For sure. By the way, so she testified that for 20 months, guys, think about this. And who knows? This is just one instant.

From October 2021 to May 2023, she used the auto pen to sign off on, are you ready for this? Documents that included pardons, hey-o, pardons, executive orders, and more. Some of it's obviously behind closed doors, so we can't see it. She claimed that she was authorized to do it, and she said she would pass along decision memos

to Biden's inner circle before using the auto pen. Think about that. She would write a memo saying, this is what I'm gonna have him sign for, is it cool? And not the president, guys, and intermediate, people in the middle, I just messed up that word, would tell him, I mean, he probably wouldn't even tell him, Bob, you saw that, that word just, my brain tried to do it. But he wasn't, he was, and the point is, the problem is,

was he even given the authorization to let, you know what I mean, for whatever she was doing? So the White House insisted it was all above board that Biden personally approved everything But now the oversight is pressing hard asking who was really running the country and so by the way This is what we've been saying the whole time This is what Jake Tapper and everybody has to be like oh my god We didn't know but we had to report on it But I'm just, and again, and this is what we're talking

about what people voted for and all that stuff. One of the main ones for me, Pat, besides the border, besides the EPC and the list and all that type of stuff, which I'm still waiting and hopeful that we get the actual answers. It was this type of stuff. It was the pardons that we're giving to freaking Hunter Biden, the entire Biden regime the whole family

shifty shift the January 6 committee and Dr. Anthony Fauci, okay I want this this to me Tom is pressing I want this is at the top of my list because you know me when it comes To accountability I want all these people to be held freaking accountable And I think this is a little crack in the ship that's going to make it come down. I think it's going to happen. Very interesting to see what's going on here. So Rob, what was the other clip that you had?

This is Scott Perry. What's in this clip? This is him explaining what the House Oversight Committee is investigating in regards to the auto-pen use. Oh, okay. Go for it. Looking at them in the context of did Joe Biden actually have any clue about what the auto pen was signing or were they doing it on his behalf? And, you know, everybody's

going to hunker down. Everybody's going to be tight, tight lipped about that. And so it's going to be hard to determine. I mean, Joe has already said that, you know, he knew all of this stuff, but we know that he signed Hunter's pardon, but with his bear, you know, he knew all of this stuff. But we know that he signed Hunter's pardon, but with his own hand. But the other ones were auto pens. So we don't know if he really knows all these people. And quite honestly, even when they were standing right in front of him, I'm not saying this to be mean,

but he couldn't even identify his own secretary of defense on occasion or people that he had appointed to these very high-level positions It's sad, but it's reality and what I think was is going to show whether it's admitted or not And whether it's provable or not the people that were actually in charge embarrassing. I'm sorry Tom So I I look at this a little bit differently I look at this from an investigative standpoint and get past all of the spin and everything that's going out. Okay, a cog in the wheel. Hey, a cog in the wheel says that she was authorized to get things signed. Who did you work for? Who did

you work for? This is like when Giuliani had the map of the mob and he had the red squares for the people that had been indicted. and then he had some yellow squares that were blank that he said were informants and he was forming the labyrinth, you know, the chart of everybody. And it's something similar that you see in Godfather 2 when they're in the hearing, you know, and they got that this is where the crime families are. So I look at her as a box in a flow chart. Okay, she said she did it. Who did she get these from? Who did she hand them off to? And let's find out who was at the top, because you know who I think it was? I think it was Blinken and Chief of Staff and one other. And I think that

that was the folks that were really running policy of these United States, which is not right. That's the president. So I believe the president was incapacitated, people running policy, and then follow the flowchart down. Then they get to her. They say, get to Neera Panden. I mean Tanden, and have her go get the thing signed, right? I bet she had a nickname.

Go get the thing signed, right? I bet she had a nickname because of go get the thing signed, right? I bet she had a nickname because of her last name. I'm not picking on her last name. Instead of Tandon, you could call her Pendon. You know, it's like, give it to Pendon, get the thing signed. But I think there's a flow chart here at PBD, and I think she just admitted how one part of it's working. And I think we should continue the investigation

beyond the spin, then the grandstanding in the hallways in front of microphones, and flow back and find out who is the small committee. If it was proven that he, somebody else, did all these auto pens on pardons, can any one of them be overturned? I think that's gonna end up in front of the Supreme Court. Oh my god, that would be explosive. Please. If it goes in front of Supreme Court and it's overturned. What does Trump do that day? What has Supreme Court, Rob, have you ever seen if, has any pardon ever been overturned? Has any pardon by a U.S. president been overturned? Any one of them. I'm actually very curious if this

has happened. No. A presidential pardon has never been overturned by any regime. It was by constitutional power under Article Section 2 of the Constitution. No federal crime. This power is absolute for federal crimes. What if it was used by an auto pen that the president never authorized. So let's just see what it says here. Is that a crime?

Let's see what it says here. Excellent question and you're now stepping into one of the few gray areas in the President's pardon law. A pardon is signed by auto pen but not authorized by the President. That pardon will likely be invalid. Here's why. If a pardon is signed by auto pen but not authorized by the president, that pardon will likely be invalid. Boom! Here's why. Presidential intent is key.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled United States v. Wilson 1833, Burdick v. U.S. 1915, that a pardon is a deed like a contract. It must be delivered accepted and authorized to be valid. If a staffer used an auto pen, a mechanical signature device, without the president's express authorization, it would likely, it would be like forging his signature, the core intent of the President missing, precedent of an auto pen used, precedent of George W. Bush, routine dominant legal system, got it?

Could it be overturned? Yes. If a court is presented evidence that the pardon was issued via auto pen and the President never authorized it, then the courts could nullify the pardon because the legal instrument was never valid in the first place. This would not be an overturning of a legitimate pardon. It would be declaring that a valid pardon never existed. That's right.

So it wasn't a presidential pardon. So it'd be like, we're not overturning a presidential pardon. There never was a presidential pardon. You fraudulently created a document. I love that when Fauci hears because you know Fauci's listening to this type of stuff. He goes, oh shit. Oh, please know. And I just and again, I want this to go the entire way like they have to keep up for the hearings for the next person. Let's fill out the flow. Who told who? Adam thoughts on this. So I remember we had

this discussion about the AutoPen and I was like ah what's the big deal? Stop it. Whose top three is this in? It's not my top three but I totally understand why it is in other people's top three because I'll pose a question for you. What's scarier and what's worse? Joe Biden actually running the government and actually making the decisions or the shadow puppet like figures that were using the auto pen? I don't know what's worse. Do you want the dementia, cancer, old, senile man, forgetful, running the government, making the decisions or do you want the grownups in the room making the decisions? It's kind of-unquote the grown-ups in the room making the decisions? It's kind of like you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Because

we all heard these stories. It's Obama really. He's the shadow president. Trump's actually still somehow the commander in chief, right, Roseanne? Like whatever that was. Whether it was Anthony Blinken, whether it was Jake Sullivan, what other names did you hear? Now this Nera. Those two are on top and them or end them as Tom likes to call her Was it Ron claim the chief of staff who was actually making decisions who was actually signing these things? Was it the guy shaking hands with? Non-existent dead people was it the guy facing the wrong way at the g7 Yeah, was it the guy who basically couldn't show up to a debate performance and Trump goes out even know what the hell this guy

Takes time. I don't know if he knows what he's talking about I don't or was it somebody else because either way you slice it. It's a messed up situation You have an incapacitated dude as the president or you have someone signing on his behalf Pick your poison and Adam you make a great point. Well, I mean what's scarier is what what's even scarier is a nation or Electing a guy that they knew was like this because Trump was evil Hitler guy That's even scarier, but I just saw this a little while ago before we started Jill Biden's longtime aide Anthony Bernal, which we saw him there. They're saying that he was secretly running the show allegedly from behind the thing.

The current he's pull up Anthony Bernal, Anthony Bernal, he is defying this is by the this is from oversight guy. This is from the oversight committees. X account. He's defying Congress and refusing to testify tomorrow about Joe Biden's cognitive decline after the White House waived his executive privilege. And so yeah, that's Anthony Bernal refusing.

This is the guy. Well, he drowned, according to this, he drowned while paddle boarding on June 27th. I'm sorry, that's tomorrow. Sorry. Yeah, that's him. Well, let's see what happens. I want to wrap up with this last story and then for parents, when you read this and you hear me say this, by the way, before we wrap up here, I don't want to give this message here.

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Woosa, because this is what the Teacher's Union head just said. The Teacher's Union head gleefully declares that her union owns American children. This is from The Daily Caller. Chicago Teacher's Union, CTU President Stacey Davis Gates, at a City Club Chicago event on Monday quoted civil rights activist James Baldwin, Rob, do you have the video on this? Stating, I just want you to watch it for yourself and then we'll go through this. Go for it, Rob. CTU thinks your children are its children.

Yes, we do. We do. Oh my God. Parents' children. Yes we do. We do. Oh my God. Wait, was that a joke? No, no, is that the only thing you got Rob? Because there's a couple of them. So she says the children, yeah.

So she says the children are always ours. The children are always ours. Every single one of them, all over the globe, and responded to the hypothetical parental objections by saying, CTU thinks your children are its children. Yes, we do. We do, which you just watched. And accused the president of weakening teachers union, describing his education agenda as a retaliation of the civil war. Okay? And Gates criticized Trump's push to dismantle. Is this the other one, Rob? It's a little longer.

It's a little bit longer. I'll play this clip. You have to see this, folks. This is Chicago's teachers' union. If you guys are looking for a recommendation of school, this is definitely not one of them. But go ahead, Rob. The teachers' unionist, Kat Zameron, one of the speakers at our November rally, she rally. She quotes brilliantly and perfectly American philosopher James Baldwin. Baldwin says the children are always ours. Always. Always. Every single one of them. All over the globe. And what comes next is, CTU thinks your children are its children. Wow, so pleasant.

Yes, we do. We do. They're getting a applause break. We do. CTU thinks our children belong to it. And there's socialist conspiracy ideology. Wow. Gates criticized terms from the dismantled Department of Education applying that it attacks the civil rights movement while Chicago public schools struggles with the 2024 district

reporting showing, ready for this, fewer than one in three elementary students reading at grade level and just 18% testing proficient in math, C2U's actions keep schools remote for the entire 2020-2021 school year, not returning until August of 2021 and led to a five-day closure in 2022 due to a walkout. Tom, thoughts on this story here? This is, once again, this is, where do I start? This is the failure of public schools in blue states and blue cities.

Now, they're failing in a lot of other cities, too. But look at these test scores. And look at these things. And by the way, the walkout was a teacher's walkout. And so they sure treat your children like crap for people that say, yeah, there are children. We do not have education in America. In the public school system, we have indoctrination.

We just have to look at it like that. They're not there to educate and get your kids and your test scores to high level. That's what they're there to do. It's outcome-based education. They're gonna roll them forward, grade, grade, grade, and it is not their desire to put teachers into accountability. Everywhere else in America, you have accountability,

starting with show up to work on time, where the teachers do not have accountability, they get tenure, and they don't have to be good at what they do, they don't have to reflect on this, because the union ensures that they stay in place. So let me tell you parents, this is what you get, and this is why homeschooling and vouchers are so important. Vote for vouchers, get vouchers back on the ballot. It says encourage homeschooling. Find people through churches and social groups

that are bonding together to help homeschool kids. The test scores are higher. You control the outcome of your kids because this is what you get in the public school system. And she is a caricature of the just what I feel is just the deleterious evil that exists there because to say we have your children and then they look at their own report card, what they're turning your kids into, how do they look in the camera with a straight face? How does she go to the Chicago City Club and give this talk with a straight face when she's looking at what's happened in Chicago

to these kids? What are they turning out? Look what's coming out of that factory. Look what's coming out of that factory. Not good. That's it? I could keep going. No, I'm taking a breath here.

I was like, Adam, go for it. His pause was... But go ahead. Well, look, this might be a controversial statement, but I believe that the children are the future, and if you teach them well, you let them lead the way. And that's how that works. But here's... let's break down the numbers, you know. Commercial from Montessori skills. Huh, and that's how that works. But here's let's let's break down the numbers, you know It's worse off numbers of skills What per what percentage of teachers are male versus female in American public school system? Well, the answer is almost 80-20

so the vast majority of teachers who work in Public school systems are in the teacher union are women now if you take it a step further what percentage of those are conservative? Versus liberal. Well, there's another 80-20 split right there and it's probably even worse. So the vast majority of the people that are teaching your children are liberal females. Now we all know the stats about if a single mother raises a child versus a single father versus two parents in the home. When there's a single father, the stats basically don't deviate from two parents being in the nuclear family. But if it's a single

mother, no disrespect to the single mothers out there, I know how tough it is, but your children turn out a lot worse. So now you've got the indoctrination from a liberal female raising your children vocally, proudfully, and then the last point is this, do you know what percentage of political donations from the from the teachers union go to Democrats versus Republicans? 94% go to the Democrats. Wait till I tell you what I just found out about this lady. Over your children and they're telling you to your face how they operate. Let me show you this. Rob, if you can go to her profile. Okay. I wanted to see if she had kids, which she does. She's married with three kids. But watch this one here folks. Rob go all the way down, all the way down, all the way down. Right there. No,

no, not there. Right there. Personal life. In September 2023, Davis-Gates faced controversy after a website critical of the Chicago Teachers Union published her son's name, photo and the name of the private high school, which she is enrolled in. Critics highlighted her past statement criticizing school of choice initiatives, where Davis-Gates highlighted her son's enrollment as representing a larger issue of disinvestment in public schools. Rob, can you click on number 32?

It's going to take you to the New York Post. Click on 32 and go to the New York Post article. Look at this. Teachers union chief calls private schools fascist, but sends her son to one. This is the hypocrisy of people like this. Go a little bit over to the New York Post article the racist, to call private schools fascist and racist. But turns out her son's ghost to one has long bragged about how her children go to Chicago Public School, but she recently got outed as sending a son to prestigious private

Catholic school on Chicago's South Side, De La Salle Institute. Average tuition, 15 grand a year, good for her as a mom, choosing what's best for her boy, but this makes her rhetoric calling school choice actually the choice of races and private school segregation. Academics utterly damning, go a little bit lower, but she even helped kill an Illinois program providing grants to underprivileged children for private school tuition. Wow. When it ends in 2025 and some 9,000 kids will lose out on what she provides for her own

son that doesn't merely make her a hypocrite, it means she knows her rhetoric is untrue but spouts it anyway in service to her powerful union. That is, she's demonizing others for power and profit, a hallmark of actual fascists in most people's books. Isn't that amazing? Is that not amazing when you think about this here? I absolutely love when you get these types of stories. Just like Mamdani earlier, these capitalists are the problem.

Hey, can you guys buy the merch? By the way, we are proud capitalists here. We proudly sell merch. We are not hiding. We proudly run Manek. We proudly hire people. We proudly, last Monday, our orientation, we hired 12 new employees, salary, benefits, all of it.

We proudly are hiring people. We are not ashamed about it at all, and these rhetorical stuff that people say, we're not embarrassed about it. We're very proud to be capitalists ourselves. It's these other people that bash capitalism on the back end, they're true capitalists, they just don't want to publicize it, and they play with people's minds regularly. I just love that the story ended the way that it did. I didn't know about it until we went into it and I said, let me find out what a real

background is. You usually don't have to go far to find the hypocrisy. That's right, I agree. Hey, folks, again, go to vtmerch.com, place the order for the USA hats as we're coming closer to the 4th of July. Represent the shirt, put the clothes on. When you put them on, please tag us.

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