PBD Podcast - Trump CONFIRMS Alaska Meeting, Cuomo EXPOSES Mamdani & Vance's Epstein STUNNER | PBD Podcast | Ep. 627

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Trump confirming his high-stakes Alaska meeting with Putin, Andrew Cuomo calling out Zohran Mamdani’s hypocrisy, and J.D.... Vance’s new Epstein revelations that could reignite calls for a full disclosure.------🤵GET A FREE LEATHER KEYCHAIN W/ ANY ORDER IN THE GENTLEMAN'S COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4loUkMN🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/40lR90L 📕PRE-ORDER SCOTT'S BOOK "A REVOLUTION OF COMMON SENSE": ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3UzdC73⁠⁠⁠⁠🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/40lR90L ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed to take sweetly victory. I know this life's meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. The handshake is better than anything I ever size. Right here. You are a 101?
Starting point is 00:00:18 My son's right there. I think I've ever said this before. All right. Episode 627, first time we're going Monday, Wednesday, Friday. test this out folks i think we're earlier than many of you today which is great fathers i'm going to read something to you today at the beginning of the podcast before we get into the stories that i think you need to hear specifically to fathers and mothers you can listen up to but specific to fathers we'll get into that adam vinny tom great to be with you guys hope you had a good weekend hello hello let's get into
Starting point is 00:00:51 some of the stories that we got i think there's something going on in alaska right now and that is a meeting rob when is that meeting supposed to be by the way friday Friday, that's going to be taking place with Putin, Trump, and possibly a guy that doesn't like suits. And we don't know whether that guy's going to show up or not. I think the meeting doesn't make sense without him to negotiate without him. But if I'm Putin, I probably don't want him to be there because of the way he handled himself at the White House.
Starting point is 00:01:20 And if he handles himself that way in the White House, what's he capable of doing in front of Putin? And Putin doesn't like things like that. So we'll see if that's going to happen or not. but major, major victory for Armenia and Azerbaijan. Trump embraces a role of peacemaker in Azerbaijan and Armenia deal. Andrew Como calls on socialists. Zohran Mamdani, they got it to wrap.
Starting point is 00:01:41 There's a correction here. It's just calls on socialist. That's a communist. He wants to seize. Did you write that? Was it supposed to be? I just want to make sure we get a right. Didn't he say seize of?
Starting point is 00:01:54 Means of production, sir. Means of production. They would be offended if I mean, why would you ever call me a socialist of from a communist? He's probably upset that they titled it that way. So let me read it again. Andrew Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo calls on communist Zoran Mamdani to move out of his rent-stabilized apartment. Donald Trump confirms Putin's flying out. Florida Attorney General proposes legislation to stop sexual predators from pursuing surrogacy, adoption, and foster care.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Rob, I don't know if you saw that story about a family in L.A. that had 21 kids in surrogacy, and they kept saying it's going to be going to a family, but they kept it, and they got caught if you want to pull up that story, disturbing story. Trump puts 50 million bounty in Venezuela and president for helping terrorists bring deadly violence to U.S. Trump spectacularly oust ahead of the IRS
Starting point is 00:02:47 and puts in one of his closest loyalists. Trump confirms the Putin meeting. Putin reportedly willing to end war if he gets eastern Ukraine, And then at the same time, Xi tells Putin, he's kind of glad he's seen an attempt at improving ties with the U.S. Mexico rejects U.S. forces in the country. Trump approves military actions against cartel terrorist organizations. So Trump's trying to help clean up the streets of Mexico. And the president there says, no, no, no, we like our cartel.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Leave them alone. I mean, we'll get maybe into the story a little bit more. This is another reason why New York City is just crushing it. You ready for this? New York City is spending $65 million on homeless shelf. for who? Specific transgender people. Let me say it one more time. New York City is spending $65 million on homeless shelter, not for homeless people, just specifically for transgenders. Okay? Transgender homeless people. Transgender homeless people. Princeton eliminates tuition for families
Starting point is 00:03:47 making $2.50 a year. I think that's Princeton's way of saying please don't find us. Exactly. Socialist, mayoral candidate Mamdani claims he will be Trump's worst nightmare. And the hires private security after calling to defend the police. Defund the police, sir. What did I say? He's not defending the police. Defund the police. That's my English.
Starting point is 00:04:08 That's the police. How scrubbing your social media could backfire and even hurt your job prospects. Besson says market expects fed to cut race this year, substantial probability. And a couple of Epstein stories we may get into. J.D. Vance wants to get a little bit to the bottom of the Epstein story. I found another video of Michael Cohen talking about Epstein and Trump. Furious Rosie O'Donnell says ABC is preparing to cancel her old show, The View. And she's devastated by it.
Starting point is 00:04:37 WMBA bets on sex toy stunts at the WMBA games, few polymarket critics. So people are not betting saying if it's going to be throwing in or not. I mean, that's just some wild stuff. I'm going to take the over on that one. Are you willing to go to a game? Yes. And I might bring a backpack. Alge is your journalist.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Anas al-Shadiv killed in Israel attack in Gaza city. White House is considering inviting Zelensky. Jennifer Welch has had it with Trump supporters who eat at Indian restaurants. Take your ass to crack or barrel. That's the Hindustan Times. Jimmy Kimmel admits repulsive liberal scolds are driving people away from the Democratic Party. Oh, Jimmy. I think it's something else.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I think it's something else, and I'll talk about it. I'm sure you got a lot of stuff to say about it. as a comedian, whistleblower drops bombshell did Bill Barr and Fannie Willis team up to sabotage Trump's comeback in Texas prison camp where Jolay Maxwell was moved. Steps Up Security. All right, so we got a lot of stuff to go through Monday morning if you're tuning in with us.
Starting point is 00:05:40 We're going to see how this is going to go, and if we're going to keep it this, but we'll test it for a couple weeks, and then we'll make a decision from there. Gang, the Gentleman's Series, VT Merch, let me tell you, the ties that you ask for, black ties. This is 100% silk. with the Valuetainment logo is on it with the pocket square tie. We have them in black and blue, absolutely sharp, you know, incredible quality.
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Starting point is 00:06:28 And then when you open it up, when you open it up inside of it, you will see Future Looks Pride right here. Sick, absolutely sick. And by the way, the other day, Michael Beasley was doing a podcast. We're not seeing people actually weren't a Future Looks Bright hat all over the place. Michael Beasley is doing a podcast. NBA player number two pick of the draft many years ago by the Miami Heat. I can't wait to see millions on top of millions.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I get so many people on X who are pulling. posting pictures while they watch this podcast, and they'll tell me how they're watching the podcast. But they'll say, man, look at my future looks bright hat. Look at my future looks bright gear. Love seeing the support. More importantly, we need to convert more people that are coming here. We were just in LA this last weekend for, what do you call it, that show that happens, we won't post any of the pictures. You know, the guy that sits in the middle and 20 people grill you? I was in the middle with 20 anti-capolis. It was epic. It was fire, and it'll be released in the next four to six weeks. Can I wait to have you guys.
Starting point is 00:07:24 see it, but the whole premise is we need more people thinking the future looks bright instead of being victims and, you know, it's not fair. I'm not happy about what's going to happen. I'm so scared about the future. So if you support that as well, go to vitimurge.com, place your order. So let's get into it. Fathers, I want to read something to you. I want to read something to you. I think sometimes we don't give fathers enough credit and what they deal with. last night I had a conversation with a couple fathers
Starting point is 00:07:54 last couple days I came back from the event last year at the event that we had and you know nearly 8,000 something people in the room
Starting point is 00:08:02 incredible event Ray Lewis was there Coach K was there Jabowakis put on a performance and all these stories about fathers right all these stories about fathers
Starting point is 00:08:11 and what's going on and I wanted to read something to you and fathers mothers listen to it whatever way you want to listen to it Statistically, you know, it's easy to always put every blame on men and put it on my father's.
Starting point is 00:08:29 You see stats about Titanic. I don't know if you guys saw the Titanic stats. One of the most interesting stats about Titanic. You know what it is? 75% of men on the Titanic were the ones, 20% of men survived, and 75% of women survived. So the Titanic's going down. 75% of women on the Titanic survived, only about 20% of men survived.
Starting point is 00:08:54 We automatically know our role. My job is to protect you. You know your role. Your job is to protect Kim, Brooke and Bailey. We know our role, what role we played. You had an event that happened yesterday. You know the role you got to play with your mom today. And, you know, my condolences goes out to you as well
Starting point is 00:09:10 with what's going on there. But as men, we have this burden, this responsibility. But fathers, I want to read this to you. Put a quote yesterday on Twitter, Rob, if you want to go to it, if you don't mind. I read this. I'm like, you know, what a powerful, what a powerful statement. One of the toughest things about being a father
Starting point is 00:09:30 is when you realize you're raising the ones you can't live without to live without you. Let me say that one more time because sometimes you have to hear this twice. One of the toughest things about being a father is when you realize you're raising the ones you can't live without to live. without you. You're teaching
Starting point is 00:09:51 these guys to learn how to live without you even though your favorite moment in life was when they're around you. There's nothing like it. It's magical for you to do that. So let me read this to you. A dad can lose friends. He can be misunderstood by his own family.
Starting point is 00:10:07 He can carry the weight of criticism and still sleep just fine at night. You know why? Because his mission isn't to be like by the crowd. His mission is to be respected, trusted, and loved by the only audience that matters his children. One day those kids will look back and realize why dad said no when everyone else said yes.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Why he stood his ground when it would have been easier to bend. Why he took the long road, even when the short one looked tempting. A father doesn't measure success by applause. He measures it by the way his children see him when the world is quiet. and by whether they know, without a shadow of doubt, that's my dad, and I'm proud he's mine. There's nothing like that, folks. If your father are listening to this
Starting point is 00:10:56 and you're doing everything in your power to raise great kids in the future, those of you guys that go above and beyond, you know who you are. And a lot of our listeners, this is something you take very seriously or else you wouldn't watch this podcast. Because if you're somebody that's not important to you,
Starting point is 00:11:10 you'd be very annoyed listening to us. We would actually be very annoying to people that are not trying to be the best father to their kids. But for those of you guys that are doing your best, I want to start off the week by telling you, you matter, you're important, keep doing what you're doing. The future of America and the world is safer because of men like you. Society, taxes, economy, prisons, crime, all of it. You're very important. And sometimes we just need to hear it. This message goes to two or three men that I spoke to over the weekend. You know who you are. I just wanted to kind of
Starting point is 00:11:43 give that shout out to you guys before we get the podcast started. Keep leading the way, no matter how challenging and annoying things may be. Even though nobody knows the whole story, we know the story. Having said that, let's get right into it. First story I want to get into Rob, I think it's the Russia story, right? With Alaska, which is where, you know, Trump and Putin have a meeting this Friday that's coming up. So Donald Trump confirms Putin is flying into U.S. soil for showdown meeting. And again, that is this Friday in Alaska. Let me read this to it and we're going to go to the video. Okay. So this says page nine, but I don't see it on page nine. Let me see this here. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Donald Trump confirms Rob and here it says
Starting point is 00:12:32 page five, pet. No, on here on the notes it says page nine. Oh, it's not five. Rob, do you know what page that's not? Page four. Donald Trump confirms Putin is flying. the U.S. soil for Showdown Meeting. Okay, do you see it where it says nine? Look at the notes at the top. It says nine. I don't know if you see that or not, but I'll just read it. President Trump announced on Truth Social DeL
Starting point is 00:12:56 he'll meet Russian President Vladimir Putin on the 15th in Alaska, stating the highly anticipated meeting between myself and president of myself as the President of the United States and Vladimir Putin of Russia will take place next Friday, August 15th. In the great state of Alaska, Trump told reporters, The war between Ukraine and Russia lasting three and a half years is complicated. Rob, if this is the clip, go ahead and play this clip. Does Putin have to meet with Zelensky in order and before you and Putin have to meet?
Starting point is 00:13:25 No, no. Are you hoping to? That's actually important because the president, President Putin said this morning, he was pretty dismissive of this idea of meeting with President Putin was. I don't know. I didn't hear him. He doesn't have to agree to meet with Zelensky. Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:13:39 No, he doesn't. No. So wouldn't you think that means? They would like to meet with me? and I'll do whatever I can to stop the killing. So last month, they lost 14,000 people. Killed last month. Every week is 4,000 or 5,000 people.
Starting point is 00:13:56 So I don't like long waits. I think it's a shame. And they're mostly soldiers, they're Ukrainian and Russian soldiers, and some people from the cities where missiles are lobbed in and you'll lose 35, 40 people a night, which is terrible. But no, mostly it's soldiers. And you're talking about, on average, 20,000 a month. 20,000 people are dying a month.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Young, generally young people, soldiers. Okay, so this was supposed to be the president of war. So this sounds like the president of peace. But they invited Zelensky, okay, just to kind of give you a little bit more context. They're thinking about inviting Zelensky to the summit, okay? It's being discussed. and another saying it's absolutely possible, adding everyone is very hopeful that would happen,
Starting point is 00:14:45 a senior White House official clarified, the president remains open to a trilateral summit with both leaders. Right now the White House is focusing on planning the bilateral meeting requested by Putin without Zelensky being there. And at the same time, is this the clip of him, by the way? Yes, the translation is just a little off.
Starting point is 00:15:05 We used AI to translate it, but this is Zelensky saying that Ukraine would not surrender territory. That's what's important. So if you want to play this clip, Rob, because this is the part that matters. Go ahead. The Ukrainian territorial issue is already in the constitution of Ukraine. Nobody will be able to deviate from this. Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupant. Ukraine is ready for real decisions that can give peace. Budi Karishni, who are against us, Buddha Karishni, who without Ukraine, they are once against us. Oh, one, give nothing. It's Dead Rashneen. They will never work, and we all need a real living peace here, which people will
Starting point is 00:15:40 respect. Okay. So when you hear that, then you hear the response Putin reportedly willing to end the war if he gets eastern Ukraine. And Zelensky flat out telling you, I'm not interested. Here's Putin. In our conditions, to start such a conversation simple and come down to the following, Ukrainian troops must be completely withdrawn from Donetsk, Lugansk People's Republics, Kursin, and Zipora's High for regions. And I draw attention precisely from the entire territory of these. Regions, the limits of their administrative borders, which existed at the time of their driving in Ukraine. As soon as in Kaiv they declare that she is ready for such. The resolution will begin the real conclusions of the troops from these regions,
Starting point is 00:16:25 as well as officially notified of the rejection of plans to enter. In NATO on our part immediately, literally in the same, a minute will follow the order to cease the fire and begin the negotiation. I repeat, we will do it immediately. Naturally, at the same time, we guarantee an irresistible and safe discharge of Ukrainian units and formations. Of course, we would like to count on what a decision is, and about the withdrawal of troops and about outside the block status. And he began dialogue with Russia from which to declare, from the future existence of Ukraine and Kaiv will be accepted. You can pause it right there. Okay, so Tom, what do you think is going to happen here on Friday?
Starting point is 00:17:03 You think Zelensky is going to show up? You think he's not going to show up? You think Zelensky is going to eventually give eastern Ukraine? What do you think is going to end up happening? I think Zelensky has to show up. And he's playing a little bit of a game now. But the advisors and people that are around Zelensky are like, hey, this is serious.
Starting point is 00:17:19 You need to go to this. And you need to go to the table. And what Russia is asking for is, you know, is basically the Russian-speaking region of Ukraine that long ago was part of Russia. Now you can make your own conclusion about where you say, well, you don't bully yourself back into it, but also there was, you know, it was triggered because of the threat to enter, you know, NATO after being told they weren't. So I think Zelensky, for all the reasons, for the NATO reason, for the territory reason,
Starting point is 00:17:52 and for the war reason, he can't not show up. I think if he doesn't show up, it's just like, a really bad look. So you want to continue this war? You're not going to show up. They're trying to have a peace. And the peace treaties like this, this is how they happen on neutral soil with a intermediary. Can you do this, Tom? Can I ask you a question? So argue it, let's play a game. Okay. Argue it from Zelensky's standpoint. This goes to everybody. Argued from Zelensky's standpoint of, you know, what do you mean? Give up Eastern Require. I don't have to show up. You know, if you guys want to do this without me, you can't negotiate.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Argue it from his standpoint. If I'm going to show up and all you're going to tell me is I got to get back Dornbas and all that historical part of Ukraine that speaks Russian. I didn't draw the line. The line was drawn by the international community decades ago. And then you bullied your way across the line. You can tell me that you thought we were going to join NATO and it pissed you off. But you bullied yourself across the line. And, you know, the U.S. Biden basically winked at you and said if it was a small incursion. I was just going to say
Starting point is 00:18:56 He wouldn't go after you. So the U.S. kind of winked. President Biden kind of winked and got this thing started. And now you want me to come sit in front of a U.S. president with Putin. And Putin saying he wants land given back. You want me to go sit for that? And that was great. Would you add anything to the Ukraine Zelensky argument?
Starting point is 00:19:16 No, because he made a great point. That's one of the main ones. I would have said, listen, the previous president said, it's okay if Russia comes in and does a small attack, a small encouragement. So you guys asked it. So not flip it. Vinny, to you. Be Putin, give Putin's argument. Tad, yeah, listen, I'm willing to come and, you know, do you want him there? Do you not want him there? All play Putin. I want him there because at the end of
Starting point is 00:19:36 the day, I told all of you, don't put, don't, what was it, one inch of NATO? I don't want any expansion. Biden, the previous president told us, you know, told us that we could come in and told us that we could attack. We just, you guys gave us the green light, so we're doing it. Time and time again, this guy is showing that he has zero respect. Okay, he comes into the White House. He This respects all of you. I want peace. I was told you guys not to push. You guys push.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I'm just sticking up from my people. That's it. Adam, where are you at? So playing Putin and playing Zelenskyy, every war in the world comes down to two things. Whose land is it? And what is the identity of the people that want the land? So if you're Russia,
Starting point is 00:20:18 the land that you're fighting for, you believe is Russian land and Russian identity. What if I'm Putin, There's a couple of things that I'm majorly concerned about. Number one, and first and foremost, is NATO encroaching east and east and east. He want niet of this. They also want sanctions removed. Don't forget about it.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Economic sanctions are a major part of this, selling their Russian oil, everything that's going on around the world. After they fix the pipelines. That's true, the Nord Stream too. And then obviously territory. As far as Zelensky goes, he wants first and foremost, a cessation of aggression. Stop bombing our land. Stop trying to take our land.
Starting point is 00:21:01 We'll debate whose land, that is. He also wants security guarantees. So when this war eventually does stop, Putin stops attacking. You talked about NATO and GDP. It's always been 2%. There's countries like Poland and other countries that are closer to the border who are saying, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:21:18 We're going to give four. We're going to give 5% in many cases. Putin is the bully here. Let's be clear. And Zelensky, as weak as he seems, his major messages, leave us alone. We'll see what happened. Yeah. So essentially, if I'm Putin, they're talking about, do you think Trump would want Putin and Zelensky in the same room?
Starting point is 00:21:41 Or do you think Trump would want just an isolated bilateral meeting with Putin and then an isolated bilateral meeting with Zelensky? I think at this point, let's take what we can get. I think the world in the reality TV show that we're all living in, I would love to see Trump in the middle and Putin and Zelensky there. That's not what I ask. Let's let's take what we can get. I get. What would Trump prefer?
Starting point is 00:22:06 Would he prefer both in the room? Or does he not want Zelensky to disrupt a meeting so he can just have a meeting with Putin? Well, think about it. If you're doing a negotiation, if you were, if Vinny and I were fighting, which we always do, would you want to have a conversation with Vinny first? Would you rather have a conversation with Adam first? Or would you want us both there? I don't know the right or wrong reasons.
Starting point is 00:22:25 You've dealt with many of these things. Let's just say, let's go a little bit deeper there. Let's just say the last time I tried to have a meeting with you publicly, you took advantage of the limelight and the camera, and you embarrassed me and my company. That's what you did last time. In front of my entire company, you embarrassed me, right? Let's just say that was the case.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Does Trump still want both people to be there? Does Trump just want Putin to be there? You know what I'm asking? More than likely, he wants Putin there for sure. He wants proof. Zelensky, meaning if Zelensky's there, a little bonus,
Starting point is 00:22:59 but he wants a one-on-one with Putin. Especially after all that, I would want them, obviously they're going to have their handlers or whatever and their people, their security,
Starting point is 00:23:08 and just like, hey, listen, guys, enough is enough. You're doing what you're doing. We know, with his attitude, especially, and we know where you're at,
Starting point is 00:23:15 let's just end it. Just stop it. And then the negotiation, he has to have him in there. But seeing his attitude, going back to your initial question, I don't think he's going to show up. I don't think, did you see Zelensky's any of you there?
Starting point is 00:23:26 I don't think Putin's going to show up. If I'm Trump, I want him both in the room, but there's back channeling going on. Look at Whitkoff, the White House announced, the White House announced that last Thursday, Friday, I believe. Whitkoff had highly productive meetings with Putin that they said sealed the deal for him to come over here and to be part of the summit. And so the back channel is working. And if we don't think that there's also a back channel to Zelensky right now, it's got to be it's like hey man you're going to look terrible and this is going to be a charade
Starting point is 00:23:58 but if I'm if I'm Trump I want them both in the room but I want to make sure I'm back channeling some rules of engagement What do you think Pat if they were negotiating this deal how would you want this game? Yeah so let's go through one by one by one if I'm Trump I want everybody in the room if I'm Zelensky I want to be in the room
Starting point is 00:24:13 because I know I can get under the skin of both of them if I'm Zelensky Zelensky that is that guy that is going to take advantage of this opportunity to make himself look good and try to embarrass both of them and he knows how to get under Putin's skin
Starting point is 00:24:29 and by getting under Putin's skin and disrupting the meeting, he's indirectly going under Trump's skin, okay? And then Trump, behind closed doors, just did a minerals deal with Zelensky which means if that got done, he almost has to, in that minerals deal, I'm assuming there was some kind of an exchange
Starting point is 00:24:46 that you can't increase tariffs on us for the next five years or three years. And I don't know the details of it, but whatever the minerals deal was, Ukraine would be dummies to negotiate a, what do you call it, a minerals deal without a guaranteed you not increasing tariffs on me for at least five years. And a reason why I would negotiate five years is because I would want the tariffs deal to be after Trump is out because I don't want somebody like Trump to be in president so he can
Starting point is 00:25:12 increase it. So in this place, believe it or not, Zelensky has a little bit of control because if he got that insurance, if he didn't, he's an idiot, if they didn't. But so then you go to Russia, to Putin, he's the only one that I think just wants it to be him and Trump. I think Zelenskyy, Putin's the only one that doesn't want Zelensky to be there at all whatsoever, because he doesn't trust him. He doesn't trust him at all. He doesn't trust the fact that he's going to be behaving. And in a strange, unique way, Zelensky here is the lynchpin because he's the most unpredictable.
Starting point is 00:25:49 You know what Trump's going to do. you know what Putin's going to do you don't know what Zelensky is going to do so he's the disruptor in this instance in my opinion in my opinion and who's asking who has to give
Starting point is 00:26:02 Putin's asking Zelensky has to give he doesn't have to give but in this case you know I don't know those are the dynamics where I see now if there's anybody that can broker a deal
Starting point is 00:26:16 Trump has to have some kind of a leverage behind closed doors that it could be as simple as allowing Putin to join NATO. If he allows Putin to join NATO, guess who doesn't want that? Ukraine doesn't want that. Zelensky doesn't want that. NATO doesn't want that. So imagine if he's coming out there playing aggressive saying,
Starting point is 00:26:36 no, I know Bill Clinton or Bush, those guys said no to Putin about joining NATO. I'm actually going to have him on NATO. So I think there's an element of known Trump's capable of doing anything, but he's going to have to poke in the NATO way. I think he can I give you one more piece of the puzzle. Absolutely. So one thing that we've got to think about, you know, you're always talking about who's in your ear, who's in your ear?
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah. Well, in a meeting like this, it's almost who's in your corner. So in Zelensky's corner, you have the EU, you have NATO, you have Poland, you sort of have the eastern European states. You have the United States to a capacity, Western allies, Canada, and then who's in Russia's ear? Well, you have China, you have Iran, or what's left of what's going on in Iran. you have North Korea, you have Belarus, which is the only country in that region that is sort of full support of Russia.
Starting point is 00:27:26 So they're going to play a role in basically negotiations. These people in Putin's ear and in Zelensky's here. And Zelensky, who's more of a puppet? Zelensky or Putin? You know, everyone's, Trump is Putin's puppet. I think nobody believes that at this point.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Zelensky is a puppet to the world. And the Western allies of the world. Just so you know, In this instance, he's a puppet to nobody. In this situation, he's not a puppet to anybody. Why do you say that? He's not a puppet to Trump or he's not a puppet to Putin. Well, he's a puppet to his financial back.
Starting point is 00:28:04 He's a puppet to the establishment. Sure. And under Biden, yes, because they kept giving him stuff. In this instance, this is a very different scenario. Very different scenario. So the Warhawks, Pat, the Lindsay Grant. the Mitch McConnell's, the, what were the contractors, the weapons and all the defense contractors, they're all, you were talking about back-channeling.
Starting point is 00:28:27 How many people are in his ear, Pat, the behind the scenes going, hey, you still want these billions, don't you freak? Because the goal is to what? Not have any, don't give in. People don't have control right now. No control. What I'm saying is, can they be in his ear? Like when Lindsay is.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Here's, what is the likelihood he's speaking to the establishment in the U.S. government right now? Pretty high, I think. Yeah. 100%. And I think the key there is Starmor. Because remember, Starmer cut the deal that for every UK pound of aid, there was like another pound of debt. Remember, it was actually debt.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And that's what the criticism came from that. You're not giving them aid. You're permanently indebting Ukraine to you when you're taking advantage of it because they're upset at the USA. I think there's a lot of people in the back there right now. Yeah. And listen, we can move on to the next story. The one thing people don't want on the left is the following one.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Trump sits down with Azerbaijan and Armenian brokers a deal. Do you realize nobody thought this was possible? Just a couple years ago on this podcast, we're talking about what's going on between Nagorno-Garabagh and Arzac and Armenia and Azerbaijan and Aliyev and it's not pretty. And then this is what takes place. Rob, go ahead and play this clip. Can you put some audio?
Starting point is 00:29:47 This is impossible. The President of the Republic of Azerbaijan and the Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia will now sign the Joint Declaration on the outcomes of the Trump Route for International Peace and Prosperity Summit. They will sign three copies in English. The President of the United States signs as a witness to the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan and the Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia affirming their path to peace, stability, and prosperity. We kindly ask that all guests remain seated for the signing of the documents. I love that. I love that.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Look, do you know how big of a deal this is while he's doing things like this? My mother's family is from Baku, okay, Baku Azerbaijan. But they're Armenian from Armenia, and, you know, they lived in Baku because a lot of Armenians living in Baku, Azerbaijan. For this to happen. Now, the question becomes, is the media going to give him the credit that he deserves? I don't know how many countries have now nominated him for a Nobel Peace Prize. I think it's eight is what the number is today.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Can you verify that, Rob, if I'm correct or not? Eight countries have now nominated this guy for Nobel. Peace Prize for actually creating peace, not just for being black and being a motivational speaker. I'm talking about actually doing something that's getting a Nobel Peace Prize. Tom, how much you think this is a big deal, specifically that it happened a week before the meeting he's having with Russia and Ukraine and Armenian-Azerbaijan are both directly and indirectly tied both to Russia and to Ukraine? I think this is a giant deal all by itself. How many decades did we go where, you know, U.S. governments wouldn't even acknowledge that there was a genocide in Armenia?
Starting point is 00:31:28 How many decades did we go? Or a U.S. President wouldn't even say that. It was the Armenian-Turkish conflict. And now, sitting at the White House, we've got, you know, Armenian, Azerbaijan, sitting together doing this. This is historic just by itself. If it doesn't, the calendar doesn't matter. First, it's historic. However, it's so historic that coming in to what's happening in Alaska, it causes, I believe,
Starting point is 00:31:57 the rest of the world to go, he's getting it done. He's getting people to the table. He's getting it done. And a week ago, he's Southeast Asia and says, you two little guys, knock that crap off. You don't want this. Our Navy is everywhere in the South Pacific. You don't want us to come help. So you guys knock it off.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Don't get into this. Just a week ago he did that. And just to piggyback of what you said, Pat, kind of like under the radar, Barack Obama, do you guys know what he got a Nobel Peace Prize for? The definition? For his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. What the hell does that even mean?
Starting point is 00:32:33 No meetings, no sit downs, no peace. Trump, on top of everything else, the tariffs, the border, economy, you name it. He's sitting down with them. He's scheduled to meet with these guys on Friday. he's trying his hardest to freaking you know help with he's speaking up about freaking Gaza and Israel like what more does he need to do
Starting point is 00:32:52 give me like the bloods and crips does he need to stop the bloods and cribs from fighting to get something you know what I mean Adam what else? He may do that he's going to send the National Guard to L.A. By the way here we got Cambodia, Pakistan Israel Armenia, Azerbaijan nominated him for a Nobel Peace Prize
Starting point is 00:33:08 Adam your thoughts on this before me move on So you've had a beautiful picture look at these guys holding these things up those documents are going to be sitting like in the Smithsonian and in world museums. This is so huge. Do you know how many presidents have won the Nobel Peace Prize?
Starting point is 00:33:24 United States presidents. Take a guess. How many? Throw a number out real quick. Two? Two? One. Four. You're right, PBD. Ding, ding, ding. The number is four. Teddy Roosevelt was the first one to win in 1906
Starting point is 00:33:38 for mediating the Russia-Japanese war. Woodrow Wilson, 1919. he founded the League of Nations. There you go. Thank you, Tom. That was after World War I. That's college right there. Jimmy Carter won a Nobel Peace Prize 20-something years after he left office
Starting point is 00:33:55 for his humanitarian work. But those are all tangible things. Like Vinnie mentioned, Barack Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize one year after his presidency for his efforts to strengthen international diplomacy. Nothing accomplished. Nothing. For making a speech at the Brandon Burn Gate
Starting point is 00:34:13 of the Brinianne Gate of the British. Berlin Wall. So if we didn't think that Nobel Peace Prize was sort of like a cool kids club, there's Exhibit A right there. Do you think it's going to happen? You know what? I actually don't think it's going to happen. And here's my guess. Trump's going to go around for the next three years, solving more international conflicts and ceasefires.
Starting point is 00:34:31 We just went down the list, Azerbaijan and Armenia, the latest thing. But wouldn't it be great if Trump just solves the world's issues, world's peace, but that never gets credit for it? and then just says, look at the Nobel laureate Peace Prize over here. Sham. I'd rather you get stuff done than get a fake award. So this is just really fat. The Nobel Peace Prize Committee is in Norwegian. Does Norway hate him?
Starting point is 00:34:55 Like, what are they doing? Those Norwegians. Of Norwegian. Yeah, what are they doing? I never know what they're doing out there. What they're doing out there is they got 7 billion barrels of oil. Ma, more peace deal. You got 7 billion barrels of oil.
Starting point is 00:35:11 What do you think, Pat? Do you think he's going to win the Nobel Peace Prize? I think he's going to win the Nobel Peace Prize. Why are you so confident? Because he's going to put, sometimes in life, one of the most beautiful things about life is where I remember one time an enemy of mine, old enemy of mine. And this guy played so many games. He would call insurance carriers to drop contracts on me.
Starting point is 00:35:32 He would pay people to write negative things about me. And I knew it was because those guys eventually became fans of mine because of itainment. One day, I told him, I said, I'm going to turn your kids into the retainers. One day, his son has a school project that is going up to speak at school about business and entrepreneurship. And his son goes in front of his class, he's 15 years old. And he says, I want to talk about Patrick B. David and what I've learned from him. He says, how we went from being enemies in his own way to then you,
Starting point is 00:36:08 converting my son into becoming a fan of Vaitainment, and then eventually me saying, I'm going to turn your kids into Vaitainer's, right? Sometimes you go up against certain people that the way they beat you, they put so much pressure on you by having so many different victories that you have no choice but to give it to them.
Starting point is 00:36:29 The amount of pure pressure the Nobel Prize organization's going to get from so many countries, they're going to be forced to give it to this man. Now, will they give it to him while he's alive or dead? I don't know. Will they give it to him like they gave Hall of Fame to Pete Rose after he died? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Are they going to do to him what they did to Pete Rose, what they're going to do to Perry Bonds, what they're going to do to a lot of these guys? I don't know. I hope it happens while the man is alive because what he's attempting to do right now, such a complete opposite of what everybody said he was going to do. He was going to start a World War.
Starting point is 00:37:08 He was going to do this. He was going to do that. And the guy that ended up getting the Nobel Prize before him was the guy that empowered ISIS. And ever since Trump took office, when's the last time he heard about ISIS? You haven't heard about ISIS. You haven't heard about any of that stuff with ISIS
Starting point is 00:37:23 ever since he took over. So who knows? Who knows what's going to happen? But I'm more optimistic on it happening because the amount of pressure he puts on them. All right, let me get to the next door here. Next door I want to get into is about New York City. So finally,
Starting point is 00:37:36 Andrew Como goes on the offensive. He writes a tweet, whether he wrote it, team wrote it, whoever it is, gets 30-something million views. Rob, do you mind just go into the tweet because I also want to see the commentary and the criticism that comes with it? So if you can go to X, go to Andrew Cuomo, perfect. And if you can go to that tweet,
Starting point is 00:37:56 he finally decides to aggressively go after Mamdani. And he exposes them. To the point that de Blasio had to respond, a bunch of people had to respond to what he had to say And I think this is the one. Here we go. Somewhere last night in New York City, a single mother and her children slept out a homeless shelter because you, Assemblyman Mandani, are occupying her rent-controlled apartment.
Starting point is 00:38:18 You grew up rich and married even a wealthier woman. You've had weddings on three continents. You own property in LGBTQIA plus murderous Uganda. You make $142,000 your plus stipends. Your wife works too, meaning you together likely make over $200,000. you know, no matter which way you cut it, Mamdani is a rich person. You are actually very rich.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Yet you and your wife pay $2,300 a month as you have brag for a nice apartment in Astoria that should be housing for someone who needs it. We are in the middle of a historic affordability crisis. Millions of low-income New Yorkers need this apartment and an apartment like it, yet your apartment remains rented to rich people who don't need it. Today I'm calling on you to move out immediately
Starting point is 00:39:03 and give your affordable housing back. to an unhoused family who needs a leaders must show moral clarity. Time to move out. Rob, if you can play the clip of what he says about his rent, I think that's when he's saying that.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Go for it. $300 for my one bedroom in a story. $300 for my one bedroom and a story. $300 for my one bedroom. So you can pause this, Rob. De Blasio responds back, okay? I don't know if you can find that or if you can't, Rob.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Just go back to Andrew Cuomo's video up top and I will go to De Blasios. Go back up on more. It's keep going, keep going, keep going. That's the one right there. So then in this one here, he announces that he's going to be doing something. If you can make that bigger, go for it, Rob. Rent-stabilized units when the vacant should only be rented to people who need affordable housing.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Not people like Zoran Mandami. You don't need to be renting rent-stabilized units to wealthy people. Otherwise, what you're doing is you're abusing the system. I'm going to propose not rent that apartment by law, except to a person who actually needs affordable housing. And I'm going to call it Zoron's law because it's an abuse of the system. Okay, you can pause right. So, Tom, your thoughts on this story here.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Well, first of all, whoever Mondami's advisors are, that was not a talking point to me because you're sticking your chin out there against Mike Tyson. And I think Andrew Cuomo reacted the way an opponent's going to react in New York saying, are you crazy? We have affordability crisis. It was like a fastball, and Andrew Cuomo hit it so hard, the ball hasn't landed. And he's also coming back and saying, and by the way, we need to make a law because New York is famous for the rent control laws. Much as I don't like the rent control laws, he's making a point here. If we have rent controlled housing and it's supposed to be for people like this, then let's make a threshold so that the people that it's intended for can get it. It doesn't become a, a cost benefit to other people that may get into it. And I think he's putting out a proposal for Zoan's law that suddenly gives him something really to run against this guy. What Andrew Cuomo was missing, I think, for the last week was he was kind of out there, you know, what do you go with, Pat? I'm the old guy.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Hey, I'm the guy you remember. You remember me? I was your governor. Remember me? So he's kind of running on Remember Me? And then everybody were going, yeah, I remember a little bit about COVID, too, dude. And now I think he actually has a plank to run on. To be fair, to be fair, Tom Rob, if you can go to that tweet of Cuomo, the first one,
Starting point is 00:41:40 we'll come back to the de Blasio one. If you can go to the first one that he put up and, yeah, go down a little bit. And let's just read the comments. Because the comments is what matters the most. Go to this and read the comments, zoom in a little bit. So that's obviously the campaign. Go a little bit lower. I want to read the criticism.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Mondani is more corrupt than I realize he's an expert socialist fraud, rich and title hoarding housing to take okay good disgusting is right i came to the comments expecting you to be getting cooked in some version of the story sounds like you may have actually uncovered something here congratulations okay cool keep going little run on a platform means test renting so it's not throughout okay interesting idea it's a good to see you fighting good fly okay preach yes 100% amen go a little bit lower rob to see if there's any criticism of what's being said i guess what's happening here and they figured something out with uh what do you call it algorithm If you comment, you automatically bring up the comments that are most favorable of you.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Do you understand what just happened right there? I don't know if you understand what I'm saying to you. Every one of them. Shameful. You all be darned. Look at that. Those are these quick responses from Cuomo. I commented there and him and I exchanged messages yesterday.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I like Joey Marinario right there. I just think that that just captures it. One of the things I said to him yesterday was the following. I said, if you roll up your sleeves and play offense like this daily, November 4th will be a good day. Your opponent is young, nimble, energetic, and shameless. You have to match that and beyond. Running for mayor is very different than running for governor.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Keep playing offense, right? What's the point there? Running for governor is different than Congress, than Senate, then mayor, than president. It's a very different game. Like, you know, DeSantis was good for running for what? Governor. And it was Congress, I think, before, right?
Starting point is 00:43:27 But president was very different. Yeah, Daytona District, he was a congressman. Right. So it's a very different game nationally versus this. But the more central it is, the more smaller it is, the more it's grassroots, the more it's shaking cans, the more it's going there. So Andrew Cuomo has to act like he's 30 years old, drinking his coffee, drinking his energy drink, whatever he goes, energize, keep the diet down,
Starting point is 00:43:53 maybe no breakfast in the morning, go a little bit with energy where you're hungry throughout the day, have your first meal at lunch, maybe have dinner early at 5 o'clock and still go back at it and play offense because the reality of it is this guy's not going to be slowing down. Having said that, here's what de Blasio said in and I'm going to come to you. De Blasio, the former mayor, who is probably, I don't know, some will say the worst mayor in New York's had in our lifetime. He said, I did a rent freeze and almost 2 million hardworking New Yorkers benefited.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Mamdani wants to do a rent freeze. You know who doesn't want to do a rent freeze? Andrew Cuomo. And he thinks he can trick us into forgetting that. Can we see the comments section below what people are saying about de Blasio? Go a little bit lower. Rob, okay. Oh, actually, you didn't go to the comment section.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Click on the comment section. Yeah, right there. So let's see what people are saying. Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. The former government is hypocritesious. How do the apartment owners continue around business? If you deny them to rent that they deserve for the property.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Thank you. I am John Gult. In fact, Maldi wants to improve lives. Hardworking order. The rest want to pamper the rich and rent freezers. No problem. Push those billioners out and see what. what happens. I heard reports that 123 billionaires may leave New York City. If Zerana's
Starting point is 00:45:02 elected, I strongly suggest that 90% of their wealth be extracted via, oh my God, an exit tax. Here's the end. If working people don't get a break soon, they're going to come take their shares the hard way. Wow. Read the next one. The idea that New Yorkers benefited during the excruciatingly ideological and practical term is laughable. New York City survived you. It didn't thrive under your confused and egocentric leadership. Adam, your thoughts on this. Well, you know, this argument about rent freezes, let's play the pros and cons. So what are the pros? Are people that are renting, they basically protect vulnerable people from massive rent increases in expensive cities like New York City.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Let's play the con. So landlords will then become slumlords. Because if you cannot increase the rent and pay your mortgage or pay your expenses, what are you going to do with the properties? You're just going to let them rot. And you're not going to maintain them. you're not going to fix them, and the properties will go to crap. We all know that. But as far as Andrew Cuomo goes...
Starting point is 00:46:03 Which is what's happening. Very good point, which is what's happening in Krona right now. Yeah, exactly. But if you're Cuomo, as much as I'm a believer in Chris Cuomo's shift to the middle and being reasonable, it is way too late for Andrew Cuomo to do anything here. Remember the song from one Republic that goes, it's too late. It's too late to apologize. It's too late for you, Andrew Cuomo.
Starting point is 00:46:27 It ain't happening. By the way, if you look at the polymarkets right now, Zorn Manati is 80% likely to win. Cuomo and Eric Adams are combined, I think, 16, 17%, 8 and 8, 9, and 8, whatever way you cut it. There it is right there. 80, 90, and 8, and then Curtis Slowa, 1%. Here's the bad news, guys, or good news for some of you.
Starting point is 00:46:51 This guy Mandani is going to win the New York City mayoral race. And let's just be prepared for a communist Islam. is to take over and let's see what happens in New York City. I think a lot of them are going to be moving to Miami. And don't discount that smile. Look at that smile. Um, M. Dany. Forget about policies.
Starting point is 00:47:08 90%, Andrew. Not good. This guy's got a smile that is infectious like cancer. But let me explain something to you how politics works. Explain. I'm going to explain something to you and I'm going to educate you. Please, sir.
Starting point is 00:47:20 My friend here. No, man, I'm just going to give you what's going on here. So here's my opinion. Malliers. Don't forget what happened with the great legendary apple-eating Canadian named Pierre Poliev. Don't ever forget the greatness of his, how he got cocky.
Starting point is 00:47:36 And I'm like, I'm going to, not only did he think he was going to be the prime minister of Canada, it felt like he believed he was going to be the leader of the free world. Pierre Poliev. Yeah, he's a cheerful, you know what I'm saying. And last minute, two to four weeks before, election he gets destroyed by a freaking world economic forum guy named mark carney and it becomes
Starting point is 00:48:04 the worst political loss of our lifetime with a guy that had that big of a flippant lead embarrassing right what does this mean if Andrew's your brother if Andrew's my brother you have to go on a podcast and address your f-ups you have to and i know in that family neither one of them want to And that has to be an Italian thing, something their father told them many years ago. Because they believe if you do, the other side is going to do what? Trash your message. Double down on you, right? And just going to trash you.
Starting point is 00:48:38 But if he wants to go and address that and clear it up and go past it, you have to be straight up. But in the last four weeks of New York City, you don't know who's going to come out and support. You still don't know. Apparently Trump and Andrew Coma had a conversation together, where Trump is wanting to help Andrew Cuomo win. If you put up a story, Andrew Cuomo, type in Andrew. Yeah, Trump, Andrew, yeah, and Trump, yeah. If you put, and then go to news,
Starting point is 00:49:07 there's a story of Trump called them or something happened. Did Trump and Cuomo actually talk on the phone three days ago? Yeah, can you click on that? So zoom in a little, there's no stories, just a video. Let's see what the video says, Rob. Sure. Go on that and click on the video if you could. Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Okay, we got a commercial. So apparently, these guys spoke, and you think Trump's going to want Mam Dani to win over Andrew Cuomo? Don't forget, the moment Trump saw that Pierre Poliev was being cocky and arrogant, what did Trump do? I kind of like the Carney guy. Who ended up winning? Carney won. Is this it, Rob? Can you play this clip?
Starting point is 00:49:46 Mr. Cuomo is doubling down on his denials of reports that he spoke with President Trump regarding the election. But the Democratic nominees are on my mom. Domani does not believe him and is lashing out of the former governor. Robert Moses joins us now with the very latest on this. Robert. Kurt and Rosanna, who says the summer is the quiet time leading up to the election? Far from it. With 88 days to go until the election, the candidates are still sparring over that New York Times report,
Starting point is 00:50:12 claiming that President Donald Trump and former Governor Andrew Cuomo spoke by phone in recent weeks. Cuomo says the president actually prefers state assemblymen Zeran Monadne and Mayor Eric Adams over him for different reasons. and denies the New York Times reporting. I can't remember the last time I spoke to President Trump. I've never spoken to him about the mayor's race. Mamdani doesn't believe that. He accuses Cuomo of, quote, conspiring with President Trump to the detriment. Pause it.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Pause it, pause, pause, pause. Okay. I don't understand the strategy behind it. I don't understand the strategy behind it. So you think it's a good idea for you to rally the troops to get behind you, to claim that you're not a Trump guy? You think that's the better strategy? You don't think New Yorkers who, the Israel community of New York,
Starting point is 00:51:15 the logical community of New York, the billionaires of New York, the Christians of New York, the Republicans of New York, the libertarians of New York, the independence of New York, you don't think Trump can help you get that vote and beat Mamdani? I don't know. I don't know. I don't understand that strategy. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:35 I understand exactly what you're saying. There is a certain arrogance that went with Pierre Pallivé and that goes with Mandami. Forget their positions, but there is a certain arrogance that goes with people. that are up in the polls. And sometimes it doesn't make you much of a fighter. And then to sit there and say, you've conspired with Trump, conspired with Trump,
Starting point is 00:52:00 why don't you just come out and say your anti-everything that the United States stands for? Why don't you just come out and say that? I don't know. It's just not the play. I don't know if that's the right play, especially after.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Like, you got so many easy things to go after. That was great, by the way. That got tens of millions of views just on that. let alone how many views it got of people talking about it on podcast. Here's another story that came up with Mom Dhani is the fact that he hired private security after calling to defund the police, Adam, not defend the police. After he called to defund the police.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Totally different opposites. Totally different opposites. I don't know if you got a clip on that, Rob, or not. I do. This is the actual clip from 2020 where he made the claim to defund the police. That's the security he hired? Yes, that's who it is. Seriously, Rob, that's a security?
Starting point is 00:52:49 Yeah, look at that guy right there. No, play the clip. There's no way that's a security. Are you for defunding the police? Are you for serious reform that people can see on the ground? I am in favor of defunding the police. Yes. And you elaborate.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yes. What that means is that right now in New York City, we have a budget of close to $6 billion for the New York City Police Department. And that is an astronomical figure. Wow. And I think that what we need to do is not chip away a million dollars or $5 million. I think in this first year, we need to take a $1 million. billion dollars out of that budget. Okay, so he said that. Now, he openly, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:27 the Mamdani spent 33,495 in June and July on advanced security and investigations, making three payments ranging from 8,000 to 13,000, despite his 2020 statements like queer liberation means defunding the police. The company advertises itself as a proud employer of cops in New York Police Department, which Mamdani has personally called to defund following a Manhattan shooting, where an off-to-the-NYPD policy was a police officer was murdered. Mamdani faced backlash for his anti-cop stance on X. I'm heartbroken. And, you know, we've read that tweet before. But there's, there's many opportunities to go up against this after he had a massive wedding. I just think, I don't know who is Cuomo's campaign manager and who he's
Starting point is 00:54:12 talking to about strategy. I don't know. I hope it's somebody that isn't the same as usual, because you're not going in a typical traditional, same old campaign as you have in the past. This is a case study nobody can give you advice on. I don't know that makes sense. Nobody can give you advice on this case study. There's nothing off the shelf. There's never been a time that you can go and look at a campaign like the one today where Trump's at, where Mom Dani said, where America's at where New York is at.
Starting point is 00:54:44 There's never been. And where you are at. So I don't know. I don't know if I'm taking counsel from the typical guys that are, let me, here's what, Jim's Carver, let me tell you what I'm in there. I think this is a very, very different. It's a mistake to take advice from anybody on politics right now that's above 60 years old on this campaign, my opinion, Vinnie.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I mean, well, first off, I want Adams, I think Adams right, and if I had to bet, if somebody gave me 100 grand and said, you have to bet this who you're betting on, mom, Donnie's going to win, and good. I want New Yorkers to feel and see what the hell did it. You want it? Like, it's, by the way, he's not hiding. He's letting you know.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Defund the police. He's pro-Islamic, whatever the hell he's doing. He was talking about, he said something along the lines of, he argued that suicide bombers need to be understood as a political category. His father said that. His father said that. Okay. So, so, so, you know, thank you for clarifying. Who's a professor.
Starting point is 00:55:37 He's a father. He's a father. My dad. So that, that's what you're dealing with. And that's what you want. You're going to get what you want. And you made a great point. I don't want to give away anything, Pat, what you recently said.
Starting point is 00:55:47 In four years, when we come back, because the elections win, is it April? No, November. Watch what's going to happen to them. But in fairness for the people. I said that to all the guys at Jubilee. I don't want to give it away. You said that. And at the end of the day, I think I mentioned this once too.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Look at the pool of people. They have Eric Adams, okay? Andrew Cuomo, with all due respect, what he did during COVID, there's no coming back from that. What he did with all the old people and all the deaths, nobody's going to forget that. So you have Eric Adams, you have him. This is their best choice. Is the freaking communist, okay? So good, good.
Starting point is 00:56:24 And the people that are backing him, the people that they're interviewing and the man in the street, they think he's the savior. Oh, he's going to, you know, no police. You know what that means? With the amount of crime in New York,
Starting point is 00:56:34 you know what that means, Adam? That they're not going to have cops. They're going to have social workers. When you get stabbed, a social worker is going to come up to him like to the stabber. Hey, how do you, how do you feel? What's making you stab that guy?
Starting point is 00:56:46 why are you stabbing him how you know what's it like at home they are doomed i'm telling you right now it's the modern-day gotham city and i don't feel bad for them you keep voting for these people good for you there's coming from a new yorker amen there's two angles there the first angle is the one that pat asked and i think that Cuomo needs to be talking to the core independence that are in Portland Portland Oregon member they defunded the police they had that little zone that was downtown i don't remember the name of it they give it a name it was the zone that was downtown. A chaz? Yeah, yeah, or whatever it was. Exactly. And guess what? Now they've come back and the people of Portland, Oregon are like, you know, this defund the police thing didn't work. We want, and
Starting point is 00:57:25 it's ridiculous the percentages you see in polls of people that want them to please fund the police in Portland, Oregon. I think it was a poll that was done that we covered on the podcast about three weeks ago. It was over 65%. Over two-thirds of all voters were like, yeah, you know, a few cops around here would be helpful come in handy. So I believe that they need to be talking to Cuomo's campaign. I agree, Pat. Nobody over 60 that's the usual
Starting point is 00:57:52 suspect. They've got to go get to some people that are running these successful campaigns back against it in places like Portland and bring it back. And George Will, our friend George Will, was on Billmar and he sums it up at the end. This is great. Go forward, Rob.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I was about to get started. One of our leading lights was a socialist named Anurian Bevan. He said, what could it go wrong? He said, we have a nation bedded on coal, surrounded by fish. It would take an organizational genius to have a shortage of either. In three years, they had a shortage of both. That's socialism.
Starting point is 00:58:28 And by the way, what George Will said here, I think yesterday or on Friday, I don't know when this was. He said, I hope they win. Yes. I want him to win because every 20 years, we need a conspicuous, confined experience with social media so we can crack it up again. I am so on the same page with this one. I can't wait to see that happen.
Starting point is 00:58:46 But there's a part of me that doesn't want to. There's the other part of me that wants a case study. Of course. Well, those of you that don't know, George Will, I think he was one of the first people that got you kind of into the political game. He was a very smart guy. And definitely made his way in the world. Regarding New York City and the potential mayors are on Mondani,
Starting point is 00:59:05 people think that this is sort of a bug. I can't believe that they're going to vote for this communist, this socialists. can't believe it. What people don't understand is this is not a bug. This is a feature. The people of New York City are voting him for him because he's a communist, because he's an Islamist, because he's a socialist. That is the reason that they're voting for him. This whole social experiment that we're doing or the taxpayers will have to pay for all this. Here's a guy who's basically the anti-Zoran Mondani explaining how it works. You got this, Rob? Zoran is going to pay for free child care, free buses, when he's going to step into office on the
Starting point is 00:59:40 first day and he's going to realize actually the mayor doesn't have any power to raise money on the rich and that was his plan to pay for all this crap to begin with. I'll tell you how he's going to pay for it. He's going to pay for it by raising property taxes, raising other taxes in any way that he can. The thing you have got to understand is I'm from South Richmond Hill. People in the outer boroughs over there, they don't have these big fancy corporate tech jobs. They're not celebrities with fat salaries. The way they make their money is they own maybe a deli across the street or they own a spice shop or they work there. And those people are the ones that are going to going to absorb these higher taxes that he's going to use to generate income for his old
Starting point is 01:00:14 conceived ideas that won't even done i understand what he's saying and by the way while we're on new york city let me tell you how many bad ideas new york city keeps coming up with this is another one for you look at that guy yeah go back to that one rob see that picture look at that guy that's stuff you know what that is you know one that is a young pbd that is march of oh nine 16 years ago when i heard him give a speech and from that moment on i'm like man this makes it lawyers are ruining America. He talked about stories about all this stuff. And I came back. I gave a 90-minute talk the following day Saturday morning. And it was, this was Claremont Institute event with Larry Arne. I think Pat Boen was at my table. I met John Void. I met a bunch of guys. Fred Reba, all these
Starting point is 01:00:55 guys. This is right around the time you started Ph.P. No? This is right before I started Ph. A part of this meeting was why I started Ph.P. Believe it. Thank you, George Will. This is the day it happened. But let me tell you this. Folks, pay attention to this. Only in New York City in California will come up with ideas like this. New York City wants to spend $65 million on homeless shelter for transgender people.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Do you know what I just said? 65 million just for transgender people, as if there's like so many of them. Overnight, apparently there's like a massive increase of people that are transgender. So New York City opens Aces Place Homeless Shelter in Long Island City. The nation's first city-funded shelter exclusively
Starting point is 01:01:35 for transgender identifying individuals, costs and taxpayers, $65 million over five years, to provide 150 beds. That's it. You ready for this? Equating to $87,000 per bed annually through 2030, Sean Ebony Coleman, CEO of Destination Tomorrow,
Starting point is 01:01:55 Bronx-based LGBTQ Center running the facility, set the shelter is named after his mother, whose nickname was Ace, Department of Social Services Commissioner, Molly Wassov said ACE's place will offer transgender New Yorkers a safe place to heal and stabilize in trauma-informed
Starting point is 01:02:11 settings with the supportive staff who are deeply invested in their growth and well-being. Park told everybody else and then the shelter operation destination tomorrow includes a full-time psychiatric nurse, social workers and holistic mental wellness programs like yoga, meditation of plans
Starting point is 01:02:28 for culinary programs offering hands-on kitchen experiences. I would not be eating that food. But when you read a story like this, okay, with what's going on in New York City. And you wonder why people are leaving New York City, because they're sitting there saying, my taxpayer money is going to this, yes. So all this tax that pay in New York, you're spending it for this? Yes. Now, imagine if Mondani wins, New York. If Mamnani wins, and the 123 billionaires, say half of them leave, say 60 of the 123 billionaires leave. And they go to where? Palm Beach, Miami, Manalya,
Starting point is 01:03:04 Lantana, someplace, Brentwood, Tennessee, they pick a place to go anywhere but New York. They go. This is the most important question you got to ask yourself. You ready? This is by far the most important question you got to ask yourself. Rob, can you play the clip of Elizabeth Warren? This is by far the most important question New Yorkers got to ask themselves. Just go to my ex account and you'll see it, Rob, all the way, it's like five clips down.
Starting point is 01:03:28 There's a clip of Elizabeth Warren with C. The NBC, they're having a conversation, and she gets challenged on the billionaire stuff and watch what she says about billionaires. And Rob, you can probably fast forward the stuff that he's saying at the beginning. Go until she comes up. Okay, right there. Start it from the moment she starts talking. Go back a little bit and start it from right there.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Go ahead. And doing that by raising the most revenue as possible without chasing businesses and the high income taxpayers out of the city because they can go to Austin. They can go to Dallas. They can go to Atlanta. They can go to Nashville. This is your issue. It's a national issue, not a local issue.
Starting point is 01:04:08 The issue is affordability. Do you know how many working families are chased out of New York City every day? Because they can't afford housing. They can't afford groceries. They can't afford child care. And it's the billioners' fault. What Zohran is saying is, I want people to be able to afford to live in New York City. That's what keeps a vibrant city.
Starting point is 01:04:27 That's what makes people want to live here. Nobody disagrees with that, Senator. But raising taxes in order to do it. Why is that the answer? Oh, dear. Are you worried that billionaires are going to go hungry? No, I'm worried that they're going to leave and spend their money elsewhere. You know, they've threatened to do that over and over and over.
Starting point is 01:04:43 And they have. They've left. I mean, here's the thing. And Goldman Sachs, when they create new jobs, they do it in Dallas. And Blackstone won't build a new headquarters. You want to have a workable city. You want to have a city that's vibrant. You want to have a city where the streets are full, where there are things for sale 24 hours a day.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Then you need people who can live here and work here. Oh, we got that right now. by the way. I would point out, New York is thriving. So right now, it's doing pretty well, actually. I'm glad you think they're doing well because a lot of people are struggling to pay for housing. You can pause right to right. So check this out. Folks, here's the question you've got to ask yourself. Vinny, I'm going to ask you this as well. I know you're a math guy, so I'm going to come to you probably for this. Let me get my pen ready. So check this out. Check this out. Do you think if these 60 billionaires leave? Rob, can you put a number and ask a Grock or Chad GBT, if, if, if, if, you know, if,
Starting point is 01:05:33 Half of the 123 billionaires of New York City leave and move to Florida, how much tax revenue will New York City lose? Good question. Okay? How much tax revenue will New York City lose? And I don't even know if that's the number because if the 123 billionaires leave, imagine how many people worth 100 million will leave, and imagine how many deca millionaires will leave.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Look at that. The 123 billionaires in New York are estimated net worth $759 billion. The top 1% of New York City pays 48% of city's taxes. Up from 40% used to be 40 in 2019. It's not 48%. That's a 20% increase in two years. If they leave from 2017 to 2022, they lost $13.8 billion in adjusted gross income
Starting point is 01:06:23 due to residents moving to Florida. From 2021, state lost $6 billion in SGI, over 60,000 residents moving. Coleman Sachs estimated that similar out immigration has led to a 3% drop in tax revenue in the city but we're not even talking about that time we're talking about now given New York City's extensive budget
Starting point is 01:06:44 even a 1 to 2% drop-off could equal several hundred over even a few billion dollars here's a question I got to everybody in New York City that's excited by Mamdani. All the socialists, all the Democrats, all the liberals you ready? Say the billionaires leave. Say they leave. Say you lose billions of dollars of tax revenue.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Do you think the government's going to adjust the spenditure they have in the city because they lost all that tax revenue? Hell no. They're not lowering any of the expenditure. Guess what they're doing with all that spending? They're still spending. But guess who's paying for it? You.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Low middle-income families. You know why? Because now jobs are not there. And now your city is spending $65 million of your money. money on 150 trans genders. Let me say this one more time. The city is spending $65 million of taxpayers' money in New York City on only 150 transgender.
Starting point is 01:07:43 That's the amount of beds that they're creating. $87,000 per bet is what they're spending. So the reality of it is you guys can get excited about this. You guys can get excited about all this stuff. These people, when they leave, which they will, many of them did. It costs $14 billion of adjusted gross income. Meanwhile, taxes went up on the top 1% 20% from 40% to 48%. You don't think there's other places that are,
Starting point is 01:08:09 you don't think Florida's going to be knocking on the door saying, hey, guys, we'd be more than happy to have you in Palm Beach. You don't think they're talking to Ken Griffin. You don't think they're talking to all the other people. How do you like Florida? How do you like Florida? How do you like Florida? They're saying, I freaking love Florida.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Really? Yeah, what do you love about? I love Florida. I love Florida. I love Tennessee. See, I love Texas. You're losing them. And the Goldman Sachs headquarters at their building in Dallas is going to be a monstrosity.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And they're slowly moving everybody out of New York. Slowly, Adam, thoughts. Well, people think that whatever has worked in the past, as far as what has made America, great New York City, L.A., as examples, are always going to be the greatest cities in America. What we've seen since COVID and what we'll continue to see as socialism and wokeism take place in certain these cities is they won't be great forever. You know, Trump says, make America great again, those cities are going to basically use those catchphrases in the next 5, 10, 20 years because those cities are crumbling. Everyone I talked to in L.A., it's like, L.A. just ain't it anymore.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Dude, I'm moving out of New York City. How much tax revenue left during COVID? I think $20 billion. That will continue to happen. Here's what I've learned when I don't know how much world to talk about it, but when you were debating those socialists and communist in L.A. over the weekend. A lot of them were openly. seen i'm openly openly here's what i've learned they're not idiots they're not stupid they're
Starting point is 01:09:32 actually very smart but their energy is funneled into the wrong ideas and you have very smart people focused on very dumb things very bad things will happen here's what i realize this socialism stuff the free stuff the free stuff the free stuff it's just basically a sugar high it's having dessert for dinner it's great i want to eat but what's going to happen is your stomach's going to feel bad. Your teeth are going to decay and basically you're going to have to live in a dentist office. Capitalism is the exact opposite. It's eating healthy. It's being disciplined. It's eating your vegetables. It sucks now. But damn, a couple months year down the road, you're going to be looking great. You have a six-pack. The reality is the sugar high people are working,
Starting point is 01:10:11 are winning, and the capitalists are basically going to move out of town. In New York City, the trans people are the good guys and the billionaires are the bad guys. Graple with that. And question, has it ever worked in the history of comments? No, they just haven't done it right, Vinnie. Oh, that's what it is. They just haven't killed enough people that get it done. And just really quick, how, what did, be honest, what did California look like when we were there? Just the area where we shot.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Be honest. What did, by the way, that was, that was not a safe place where we shot the whole thing. Not at all. Downtown L.A. because we were on the bus. Rob, you saw the, the, what's it? The shade opened. I looked outside and I was like, there's no. Homeless people.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Blackhead, homeless tents. Somebody was somebody. There was a Mexican family selling, like, you know, they had a food stand. There's just a homeless guy laying there in his underwear, and they're acting as if he's not even there like it's normal. I'm telling you, New York, as bad as it is now, wait. Just wait, and it's going to be all your fault
Starting point is 01:11:11 because you're like a guy that smiles and wants to give you free shit. You're missing one major component. What? The weather, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. I mean, come on. Let me get to this next story.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Next story I want to get to is to follow him. And while we're talking about California, New York, Florida Attorney General proposes legislation to stop sexual predators and pursuing from pursuing surrogacy, adoption and foster care. Okay? So let me read this story to you, Rob. Is it a video? Yes, sir. Go forward.
Starting point is 01:11:37 This is Attorney General James Uthmeyer. By now you know, my goal is to make Florida the safest state to raise a family. As a father of three little ones, my wife, Gene, and I know that there is no greater blessing from God. than to have children. There's also no greater responsibility than to bring up good citizens. I know there are many couples out there that are unable to have kids, and many are turning to technology and various resources in the hopes of aiding their quest for parenthood, surrogacy being one of these options. That said, in Florida, we have a responsibility as leaders to protect families, and we've seen situations lately where surrogacy has exposed kids to dangerous harm. In Pennsylvania, we recently
Starting point is 01:12:25 saw a homosexual couple, including a registered sex offender, celebrate bringing home a newborn. In other states, we've seen situations where parents have obtained children through surrogacy or adoption only to then subject them to repeated sexual abuse. This cannot. Okay, so do you see the sensible ideas to protect kids and families? Do you see that? Do you see the sensible complete opposite of trying to protect transgenders in New York with your taxpayer money? That's the difference. If you have a family and you got kids and this is the story I was talking about, oh, you found it. Yes. This is two weeks ago. Bizarred discovery of 21 children in L.A. Home raises questions about lack of regulations for surrogacy. What? Let me read the story.
Starting point is 01:13:18 and I'll come to this more, Rob, if you can keep this one up, because they kind of go together. So you heard what story he talked about, right? Highlighting what is going on here. The removal of 21 children from the custody of LA area couple has put a spotlight on a practice of using surrogacy to build a family. Surrogacy has no federal regulation, leaving it up to the states to set the rules if they choose to allow. What?
Starting point is 01:13:39 What? What? The kids 15 at the couple's mansion and six more living else were taken by an L.A. County Child Welfare Agency in May after the parents were accused of failing to intervene and the abuse of a baby by nanny, police in Arcadia said the children range in age from two months to 13 years old with most between one and three, police said the FBI won't comment, but agents are investigating Sylvia Zhang 38 and Gijon Juan 65 Swan have not responded to email seeking comment. Police have Zhang, believe Zhang gave birth to one or two of the children
Starting point is 01:14:14 and while the rest were born by surrogate, some woman who were paid surrogate for the couple now say they were unaware that the couple was accumulating a supersized family, raising questions about their intentions. What were they going to do with these children? Ask the lawyer in San Francisco. So, Tom, your thoughts? Florida versus L.A. madness.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Well, the Florida attorney... Actually, I'm sorry, let me go to Vinnie first. Go ahead, Vinnie. Okay, yeah. Sorry, Tommy. But I think, and I'm pretty sure Tom's going to agree, this should be a federal law yesterday. Okay, remember last. week we talked about that gay couple that adopted
Starting point is 01:14:46 the baby. One of the fathers was, well, Brandon, Keith Riley Mitchell was convicted of child porn, sexual abuse of a minor, pay attention to what he was in trouble for. Endangering the welfare of children and corruption of minors, okay? And I did some research and guess what, Tom, they still have that baby who is a boy, remind you,
Starting point is 01:15:04 in their home, okay? Which to me, that's criminal negligence by the system. The child isn't their blood, so that means there's zero natural protection. We're talking about a predator. Think about this, guys. A predator is alone with the baby. He's changing him.
Starting point is 01:15:19 He's bathing him. And he's tucking him in at night, all right? And it's just one day, the stranger baby, because it's a stranger, is going to grow up and become the same age as people that this guy freaking abuse and sexually assaulted. Okay? And we shouldn't be waiting for the headline of what went wrong. We know what the hell is wrong. The system at this point is just as much to blame as a freaking predator. Why is this even an issue, Pat?
Starting point is 01:15:44 This should be not just a Florida thing, the whole freaking nation. And you should see how much flack I got online media people messaging me, gay people like, how dare you, you're homophobic, you're blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Bring that shit on. No gay couples should have, especially one that was in trouble for, I'll say it again. Let me say it one more time. What was he in trouble for? Child porn, sexual abuse of a minor and endangering the welfare of children.
Starting point is 01:16:11 And you guys think that guy should have a freaking boy about. baby in his house. We're kissing him and he's changing him. Get the hell out of here with that noise. Keep coming at me. Go ahead, Tom. There's laws in the United States. When there is a live birth, there has to be a birth certificate. And that birth certificate is your path to a social security number and path to recognize citizenship. So let's just look at the legal stuff. And I'm just as emotional as you are about the fact that there's uncorrected things going on out there
Starting point is 01:16:36 with sexual predators. When a surrogate has a child, the birth certificate first recognizes is who is the legal individual that had that baby? This is the mom. She can decline to state the father, or I don't know, or I don't recall, or, you know, there's another bizarre things that she can say. Then they have to go to court and say, it's called the post-birth order, where you go to court and you basically adopt the child on the birth certificate, and they say this is a surrogate adoption we're doing,
Starting point is 01:17:08 and they don't call it adoption, it's surrogacy. and then the court order, like Florida's Department of Vital Statistics, has to, under a court order, then change the names on the birth certificate, so now that these are the legal parents. Now, the name of the surrogate is removed and sealed. So that's how these kids that grow up have to go through all this stuff to somehow find out who their birth mom was, if they were so interested. So you have a process to review surrogates,
Starting point is 01:17:38 and it's a failure of the system, Vinny. It's a failure of the system. If you're on parole, you can't buy a gun. Yes. And if you go in and you buy a gun because the background check, you know, miss something, that's a failure of the system. Likewise, if you're a sexual predator with the Florida Attorney General saying, hey, in Florida, we're going to check and double check.
Starting point is 01:18:00 And if you're a sexual predator, when you go in to get the post-birth order to adopt the child who's been born to the surrogate, where you have the legal birth certificate because you've got to have that. Guess what? We're going to put the hammer down and say, no. And I think the Florida Attorney General is doing something very sensible.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Meanwhile, in California, you can basically, and who knows what these people were doing, you can accumulate an army of children through surrogacy for who knows what. It could just be, I want to have a lot of kids, but there also could be other things going on. And apparently, they couldn't watch after them because a nanny was abusing the baby
Starting point is 01:18:41 and the older child turned him in. So I'm not, to me, I don't think anything weird is going on here. I think the chance of that being the case here is 10 or 20%. I'm actually not going to date something. But the fact that we have no federal laws for surrogacy, and it's by state, and it allows for some person who wanted to abuse a child,
Starting point is 01:19:04 they can go to a state that's got lenient surrogacy law. So, Rob, can you pull up which states in America have the most lenient surrogacy laws? Which states and which states have the most? Which states have the most lenient and the opposite of lenient? Strict. Lienant and strict surrogacy laws. Laws.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Yeah, let's see in America. In the United States. Yeah, perfect. I'm curious because to me, that's more my concern. My concern is on what they did. They could have been very innocent and it led to something else. Okay, most lenient states.
Starting point is 01:19:35 California, a leader in surrogacy, permits commercial surrogacy, and routinely grants pre-bird parentage and Illinois, Toronto, Connecticut, Delaware, D.C., New Hampshire, Maryland, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, Rhode Island, Vermont, all considered surrogacy. Michigan recently updated. It's April 25-year parenting transitioning from restrictive to progressive by legally recognized in surrogacy arrangements as well as New York. Now, most ambiguous, restrictive, or ambiguous are what? Louisiana only allows altruistic, just from a surrogacy, married, heterosexual couple, using their own Nebraska compensated surrogacy is not considered legal here, making any paid arrangements effectively unbanned, and Arizona, surrogacy contracts are expressly prohibited through at least, you know, where it goes to heterosexual couples. Okay, fine. I get that. Go a little
Starting point is 01:20:25 bit lower. Is there anything else? Strict as are Louisiana, Nebraska, Arizona. Yeah. I think the fact that we're bringing us up is to bring awareness for people to be paying attention to it. It's a very open And if you're somebody that's dirty and you want to abuse the law, you've got a few states you can go to to handle that. Okay. If all of a sudden a gay couple wants to go get 10 kids, is there limitations on that in some of these states? I don't know. There's too many opportunities for abuse. And just really, really fast.
Starting point is 01:20:54 And I have to say this again, the Brandon Keith, Riley Mitchell guy, they still have that baby. He is a convicted, freaking child abuse. Is he? Yes. Yes. He was convicted of, Rock, you make fact check me. Brandon Keith, Riley Mitchell was convicted of child porn. Selection till today. So he was never let go and he was never innocent. He was convicted. Am I right, right, right? He's a registered sex offender. So he's still a registered sex offender in. And then Pat, how is that kid still in their house? I mean, that's Michigan. Oh my God. Like, there's a, oh my God. Like, I don't understand. Can I weigh in on this? Adam, go ahead. Sure. Well, we're looking at Exhibit A of why Donald Trump won the presidency.
Starting point is 01:21:40 It's just common sense at this point. The reason that you're freaking out here is because there's cities and states around the country who are not practicing common sense. All Trump had to do was expose to crazy. What Trump did was say, I prioritize citizens over illegal immigrants. I know the difference between a man and a woman. I love America. You hate America. and I have morals and values that align with the average American. You know, on Bill Maher this past weekend, did you see who was on? It was our friend Stephen A. Smith and Dr. Phil. And they argued about whether the Ten Commandments should be in school. And Stephen A. Smith and Dr. Phil were on the side of, yeah,
Starting point is 01:22:24 I think there should be a little introduction of morals and values and principals, whereas Bill Maher, who does not believe in God, was me saying, why do we even need that? The Ten Commandments is all BS, but that is leading to the degradation of society. Now, I believe in the separation of church and state. To what extent, though? Judeo-Christian values the Ten Commandments
Starting point is 01:22:45 is what this country was founded on, right? But we've seen, I don't know if you have that chart from the Wall Street Journal that I sent you, the decline in all these values that America was basically founded on. The decline of religion, the decline of patriotism, which very much bothers. me, the decline of having children and community involvement. Americans pull back from the values that wants to find us.
Starting point is 01:23:06 That's what's going on here. So my prediction is this pendulum will swing one direction into the other, and it'll be 10, 20 years before L.A. and New York City and some of these psychopathic woke agenda have to reckon with the reality. I'm going to the next story. The question from Pat was national laws and national precedent. And, you know, Roe v. Wade, that was a national law. that was governing abortion.
Starting point is 01:23:30 And then Auburgfell v. Hodges, that was a national case in 2015 that gave that legalized same-sex marriage for all 50 states. And of course, remember, that was Kennedy, Sotomayor, Kagan, Ginsburg, and Breyer, the liberal five at the time. That won't happen now. But to Pat's point, if we're going to have Roe v. Wade on a national level and we're going to have Augerfell v. Hodges, John Roberts dissented, although, and that gives us same-sex marriage on a national basis, why shouldn't we have national laws governing, you know, surrogacy for
Starting point is 01:24:03 continuity's sake because you're talking about citizens. You're talking about protecting no citizens. So I agree with Pat. There should be national laws and the precedent is there with the Supreme Court in so many ways. Okay. All right. Let's go to the next story. Jimmy Camel admits repulsive liberal scolds are driving people away from the Democratic Party. He admits. And here's what he had to say. And he's on the podcast with, Sarah Silverman, right? That's the other girl. Yeah, go ahead, Rob.
Starting point is 01:24:31 It's the loud voices that scare people from saying what they believe and make you think twice about a joke or whatever, you know, these things. And, you know, a lot of their points are valid, but a lot of them are also just repulsive. And I mean, in that they repel people from, they go like, oh, you're no fun. I don't want to be around you. And I think that if you had to boil it down, like, one thing,
Starting point is 01:24:57 that's kind of what it is. It's like, oh, you're no fun. I don't want to be part of your group. Yeah, you know, it's funny. First of all, Sarah Silverman needs a better audio person that's working for her. How horrible was that? That was pretty pathetic.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Maybe she needs to meneck a couple of our guys here. But I would tell you this, when I'm hearing that. I responded back to Kimmel, and this is what I had to say. I have no problem with Kimmel having opinions about any of these things. But here's what I said. I said some unsolicited advice. for you. If you wanted to be a pundit, go to CNN or MSNBC and share your opinions. But your job as a late-night host is to entertain Americans who are burned out with divisive politics. You
Starting point is 01:25:40 failed miserably. People don't have a problem with Jimmy Campbell's opinions. People don't have a problem with Stephen Colbert's opinions. They have a problem that your job wasn't that. And that's why you failed miserably. You failed. I watch A. Leno. I found a picture the other day of me going to a Jay Leno show. And luckily, I was able to get in because they thought I was 16 while I was only 14 years old. And I took a picture with the guy. And, you know, they said, who's here? We came here from Vancouver.
Starting point is 01:26:10 We have no clue where Vancouver is. We went up on the stage and we took a picture with Jay Leno. We're like, oh, my God, we met Jay Leno. It was so funny. I wouldn't, we were one of those guys that would go stand in line to listen to Leno. Maybe I've got to bring the pictures next time to show it to you. What's the point here? Their job is to entertain.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Their job is to make us laugh. Their job is to make us sit there and be like, oh my God, that's so funny. Ah, that's hilarious. That's good. And all of a sudden, if you don't take the vaccine, if you don't do this, if you vote for Trump, if you do that, you know what?
Starting point is 01:26:42 Just go work at MSNBC and work with Matt out. Just go to CNN. It's okay. Nothing wrong with that. But your job wasn't that, Jimmy. Neither one of you. Your job wasn't that co-bearer. That wasn't your job.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Tom, your thoughts on this whole thing. with Jimmy Kimmel. Well, Jimmy, you bought into it. You made it your own, but you got used, buddy. You are responsible for who you are and who you became and what you did, but you got used because the whole ABC network
Starting point is 01:27:11 was 100% behind Kamala, 100% anti-Trump in 2016, and you bought into it, and you guided that. If you had held a little bit of your independence, buddy, you could have been different guy. Look at all of them that became a Kimmel.
Starting point is 01:27:27 bitter. Colbert became so bitter. And he had the dancing COVID things. My gosh, you're a propaganda machine for the government that's now been widely discredited. You know, I just think it's so ironic. And Rosie O'Donnell, too, this past weekend. It's so ironic that everybody now is saying, wow, it's not the party. It's the loud voices that scare people. You were one of the loud voices. What do you talk about? You were a loud voice that was on a prime time, it's not a prime time, prime network in that late night zone where people were watching. Not very many now, but at the time there was initially. And now you're like out there saying these things. Dude, you did it to yourself. You didn't have enough spine. At a point where you had audience, you could have had a little bit of
Starting point is 01:28:13 spine, but you went with it. You made it your own. You became bitter like Colbert. And now you sit and you say, oh, you know, it's a loud voices. You were one dude. It's your fault. And by the way, him and Sarah Silverman apparently used to date a little bit for like seven. years. Adam, your thoughts on this. Well, it's almost like people forgot what the hell their job was. A journalist's job was to report the news. They turned into an activist. An actor's job was to do movies and do shows. They turned into activists. Entertainers. Make us laugh. Comedians. Entertain us. Make us laugh. Activists. Musicians. Play music. People enjoy. Activists. It's almost like all these people forgot what the purpose of their job was and they became political
Starting point is 01:28:54 lecturers. And half the country was like, dude, I'm done with you. Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, Howard Stern. And what happens is we're going to see one by one, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing. Stephen Colbert gets canceled. Howard Stern's going to be off the air. Jimmy Kimmel, you're next, buddy.
Starting point is 01:29:11 And we'll see who the next man up. This country is coming back to normalcy. And I mean, Adam, great points. Tommy, and I'm going to piggyback. And I think these guys, especially somebody like him, they sold their soul. Like Jimmy, Honestly, Kimmel used to be on the opposite. He was on the man show.
Starting point is 01:29:30 Disgusting, perverted, you know, that whole, you know, you want to talk about MAGA, that, in their sense, you were that guy. That was the good stuff back in the day. By the way, racial comedy. Blackface, come on, let's bring that back, Jimmy. Listen, when you sell your soul and you're a shill for the other side, you can get away with everything and anything.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Notice if it was anybody else from the other side, all that stuff would have surfaced. He made fun of Oprah. He literally was black. body the hell would just face when he did uh was it carl malone he did car malone he did car malone and that's the thing and you made it great one of the greatest rebound is also and then on top of that i mean he works for abc who do you think runs abc those are those people that were pushing that that nonsense and listen he has to do it guys you sign the contract you sell your soul
Starting point is 01:30:16 he has to remember what he said about people with not taking the vaccine he's like if you go to the hospital he's like next next but good like die weezy he basically he basically said to die. Let me have a 30 seconds with Vinny real quick. Yeah. When they sell their soul. Yeah. What do they get in return? Not a damn thing. What do you mean? They get fame. He gets fame and money. He gets fame and money. Yeah, but he's never going to get that back. You're done. I'm going to tell you a quick story. For now. We were in L.A. Yes. The last night there, I snuck off like an outdoor cat and went to a little house party. I will not say the name of the influencer was house it was because he was an awesome guy.
Starting point is 01:30:53 and I don't want to put them out there, but the house was incredible. I walk in, hey, how are you doing? You know, there's 20, 25 people. There's not a big thing. Goats. And our old friend there, the boxer, I won't say his name was there. I walk in and greeted very nicely, hey, how you doing? I walk in and is the exact opposite type of conversation that I was expecting.
Starting point is 01:31:13 The argument was amongst people, black, white, this, that, who should be able to use the N word? Oh, God. They go, hey, we get a famous podcast. here walk in what do you think i'm like i ain't getting involved in this conversation the owner of the house is sitting there and i say to him almost jokingly like you might want to leave for this conversation you don't want to get canceled he goes you know what i'm out goes upstairs he goes i got way too many brand deals on the table i got way too much going on to get caught up in this nonsense what's my point he just left the room he didn't have to say anything but a lot of times
Starting point is 01:31:50 people sell their soul for money, for fame, for this, for that. It's a wild world out there. And people like Jimmy Kimmel, basically, they don't not want to lose their money. Was there no adrenachrome? Does anybody have an adrenicrom? I just wanted to tell us that he partied in L.A. And he knows people. I'm doing shots of adrenichrome.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Let me get to the next story here. Let's get to the next story here. J.D. Vance wants answers over Epstein files. Rob, if you have that clip. So J.D. Vance did an interview. this past weekend with Maria Bartramo, and when she was asked about Epstein, this is what he had to say. Said very clearly, because we've had other meetings about that, is that he wants us to be fully transparent and he wants the credible information out there.
Starting point is 01:32:36 So we're working to compile the thousands and thousands of documents that are out. 30 seconds before this, she asked, did you guys have a meeting just about Epstein just yesterday at the White House or something? We did have a meeting, but it wasn't about Epstein. we did have a meeting, and if we had, but we had a meeting in the past, so she was trying to push him because there's rumors that there was a meeting about Epstein. This is literally 30 seconds after that. Go ahead. For full transparency, but I have to say, Maria, I laugh at the Democrats who are now all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:33:05 so interested in the Epstein files. For four years, Joe Biden and the Democrats did absolutely nothing about this story. We know that Jeffrey Epstein had a lot of connections with left-wing politicians and left-wing billionaires. And now President Trump has demanded. full transparency from this, and yet somehow the Democrats are attacking him and not the Biden administration, which did nothing for four years. Was it the right move for Comer to send subpoenas to the Clintons? It absolutely was, and it drives home how, while the Democrats have tried to make this Epstein thing about anything but the fact that Democrat billionaires and Democrat political leaders went to Epstein Island all the time, who knows what they did, but it's totally
Starting point is 01:33:47 reasonable to ask these questions. What you saw in the House of subpoena is they are trying to investigate all of the things related to this particular case. I know a lot of Americans want answers. I certainly want to answer. Rob, I just sent you another clip. By the way, while this has happened in Texas prison camp where Jolay Maxwell has moved, steps up security, there's a bunch of different stories that are coming up here, right? But there's Michael Cohen. We showed one about three, four weeks ago, if you remember that, when I showed this here. This is a very different way he takes it here. And watch what he has to say. He can totally double down and trash Trump, but he doesn't.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Why not? Play the clip. I don't believe that Donald Trump was on Epstein's Island. Why? He said it more than five, six times, and he says it very openly. Now, Donald Trump says many things openly, but this is different. He doesn't always split with the truth. That's true, but I know Trump, and I know that he's saying it for a purpose.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Now, is he in the file? Absolutely. Why? He's in the black book. He took free flights with Epstein down to Palm Beach. If he turns around and says that he was never on the island, rest assured. He's going to use that as the basis for why this whole thing, again, is a witch hunt against him. He'll take the grain of salt and he'll make it into the entire, into the entire, you know.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Right. Absolphe himself. Right. Vinny. Thoughts. Listen, unless something really major happens, this is going to go down for Trump's second term. as the biggest scandal. This entire situation,
Starting point is 01:35:18 I get what J.D. Vance has to do, Pat, and say, you know, the talking point is blame the Dems, blame the Dems, but the Dems weren't the one promising that all this stuff was going to get released, okay? He didn't have people like Bongino
Starting point is 01:35:31 and Cash were telling everybody promising out the wazoo that this was going to get released, and now the complete BS and lies. And just like, just to FYI, Galane Maxwell, who's convicted, convicted of child sex,
Starting point is 01:35:45 trafficking, okay, on top of conspiring to recruit and groom underage girls and all that stuff, okay? She sat down for nine hours with Todd Blanche, okay? Do you guys know who Todd Blanche is? He's a deputy attorney general now. Guess who he used to be? Donald Trump's
Starting point is 01:36:02 personal lawyer. So, okay, so you sent Donald Trump's old lawyer to go sit down with her, no cameras, no lie detector, no, just a closed door conversation, and we're supposed to believe that she just said Donald Trump wasn't on there okay like that does that is anybody even going to take that as as truth it's just
Starting point is 01:36:22 all this keeps i i don't even know what to think anymore okay for him that guess what okay trump wasn't at epstein island i don't i don't think he was on the island but there was many other instances where you could be hanging out with geoffrey epstein and something crazy could have happened the guy lived in new york you live in new york okay god forbid trump was somewhere and hanging out all these what were all the um teen models US, what was the thing that he bought to? Miss America. Miss America. Who knows who's around,
Starting point is 01:36:51 who's young, and then they record you? Did he ever hang out at Epstein's house or was he at a party where Epstein are there and maybe they recorded something? So you're fully at the place where you're speculating that Trump might be tied to it. You're not saying, well Michael Cohen's saying
Starting point is 01:37:07 that this is another thing that they're using against him as the next witch hunt that they're trying to go after him. You don't believe that. You believe there's some credibility to the story. Pat, because of the way that Trump and the administration and everybody's acting right now, you're acting
Starting point is 01:37:22 guilty. You know what I mean? You're acting guilty. All the footage of the thing that they released that has three minutes missing. It's like the biggest bot, they botched the whole thing up. Okay, Trump should have just came out initially and said, you know what? Banjino and Cashtel, they're all
Starting point is 01:37:39 full of crap. That's what he should have said. Instead of saying, no, it's the Democrats. Just like how they did with Russia collusion. It has no correlation to Russia collusion, okay? And the reason that Dems didn't release anything, PBD? Because Bill Clayton is one of the biggest ones. His name is plastered all over it, 26 times on the freaking Lolita Express. And even Kevin Spacey, do you remember what Kevin Spacey said, Tom, when they were traveling to Africa or whatever?
Starting point is 01:38:03 And he goes, they had young girls on the plane and he didn't want nothing to do with it. Obviously, it's Kevin Spacey. He admitted it. He goes, I didn't know who Jeffrey Epstein was. But yeah, there was young girls on there. And FYI, and this is a fact. Fact check me, Rob. Bill Clinton, when he flew on Lollita Express,
Starting point is 01:38:19 he didn't have Secret Service on there with him. What does that mean? You don't have Secret Service? Isn't that a breach of protocol, presidential protection? Tom, why wouldn't you want to have them on there? So maybe they could be witnesses later on? Could you fact check that, Rob?
Starting point is 01:38:33 If when he was flying, did he had Secret Service not be on the plane? This stinks to high heaven. Okay? I just want the truth. By the way, we were promised JFK. What do we find? out. CIA was involved. Maybe Israel was involved. No clear evidence.
Starting point is 01:38:47 What? What? Did you not read any of the, because JFK wanted to go check if they have nuclear weapons and they... It was probably the Mossad. Do they kill me? Adam, I'm just saying what I'm saying is this is what was all that released. No, definitive answers. No doubt. We were promised MLK
Starting point is 01:39:03 stuff. Nothing. It's all smoke and mirrors and we never get the answer. Vincent, can ask you a question? My emotional, angry friend. I'm not angry. I'm just spitting facts. You are angry. It says it on sure. But I'm not angry right now. I'm going to give you two options. I actually feel great. Option A. Donald Trump
Starting point is 01:39:18 figures out the world solves all these wars, peace deals, economy, tariffs. Everything goes according to plan, shuts down the border, immigration, everything. But you never figure out what happened with Epstein and on Epstein Island. Or the world
Starting point is 01:39:35 falls apart. Everything goes to shit. The tariffs don't work. There's wars. But you find out every single piece of information. about Epstein and that black book. Which one do you pick? Very interesting. Which one do you pick?
Starting point is 01:39:47 Hold on. Hold on really fast. Option A or B. Hold on really fast. Adam. Trump, tariffs, world war, Israel, everything. And you find out he was with an underage girl. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:40:01 Hold on. So you're asking, you're answering the question with the question. Because your question is if and what if. No, no. If you found out that there's footage of the President of the United States sleeping with an underage girl. How do you feel? How does the rest of the world do?
Starting point is 01:40:16 What do you mean how the rest of the world? I'm saying, does he get accountability? Let me answer the question. I would pick option A, a million times out of a million. And let the theorists conspire of whatever they want, whatever they want to figure on Epstein. It's a fact. I want signal versus noise.
Starting point is 01:40:34 You want the noise. And that's cool. Adam, you absolutely just died the entire situation. No, no. Adam, how many times do you have to say accountability is funny? I asked you the question. You dodged it and flipped it on me. You said an A or B?
Starting point is 01:40:48 You said a maybe? I don't want a maybe. Just option A or B. I don't. Do you want the world to do incredible, but you don't find out about Epstein, or you find out everything about Epstein, but the world falls apart.
Starting point is 01:40:58 What do you pick? If finding out, Adam, the question, dude. The world falls apart. I want, if B means, this is where you fail to, a complete boggles your mind. Adam, you could just say A or B, but you're keeping to talk.
Starting point is 01:41:09 This is what boggles your mind. This is what boggles your mind. Go ahead. accountability how many times you have to say it if you're if you've done the the deed you have to pay the price plain and simple i don't care that that's what you fail to understand you pick option b and you want to govern a city or in a world of ashes adam because you found out if the city was built on pedophilia let it burn okay i'm sorry adam that's how you you don't you don't think the way that i do i still love you i'm not advocating for pedophilia i'm advocating for there's a million other things
Starting point is 01:41:43 that are more important than Epstein. But this is your number one thing. I get it. I care about kids getting raped and murdered at him. That's my thing. You just went totally. No, I didn't because that's what we're talking about. Over here, if you need me, Pat.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Tom. By the way, what would you pick? Option A or B. Tom, could you help us out? Option A or B. I'm simply showing what Michael Cohen said. And Michael Cohen is the number one guy that would want to go after it.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Number one Trump hater in the world. Says Trump is innocent. And why is he not doubling down? and he spent more hours with him than any of the guys that are with him on the administration right now except for a couple people, okay? And he knows all his dirt. It's your lawyer for 20 plus years that flipped on you.
Starting point is 01:42:26 You don't think he talked to the lawyer about, hey, how do we handle Epstein? How do we do this? How do we do that? Why is he not saying anything? I don't know. It's in the weirdest way, Cohen has a lot of credibility.
Starting point is 01:42:38 But we'll see. We'll see what's going to happen there with this story. All right. What else do we have before we wrap up? Is there any other story, Rob, that we haven't covered before we wrap this up? Do you want to discuss the WMBA or no? Let me see if I got another story before I go to the WMBA. Tom, is there any other stories you guys got before we go to that?
Starting point is 01:42:55 What about the Israel, Al Jazeera? Yeah, let's go to that. Let's end on a light. By the way, I'm going to end on a light video I saw last night that made me laugh that I'm going to share with you guys. What a funny prank. I think the rest of you guys are going to enjoy as well. Al Jazeera journalist Anas al-Sharif killed an Israel attack in Gaza city. And so a 28-year-old, well-known Arabic correspondent who reported extensively from northern Gaza was killed
Starting point is 01:43:24 and what appears to be a targeted Israel attack on a tent for journalists outside the main gate of Al-Shefa Hospital in Gaza City as confirmed by the hospital, direct Al-Jazeera, media network denounced the attack stating it was yet another blatant and premeditated attack on press freedom amid the catastrophic consequences of the ongoing Israel assault on Gaza, which has seen the relentless slaughter of civilians, forced starvation, and the obliteration of entire communities. The Israel military admitted targeting Al-Sharif, claiming in a statement he served as the head of a terrorist cell in the Hamas terrorist organization and was responsible for advancing rocket attacks against Israel's civilians and ID of troops. Tom, your
Starting point is 01:44:08 thoughts on the story? Well, there's a lot of sources that came out overnight. IDF made a post about it on X. You would expect people are going to say, oh, of course the IDF says that he was there. You know, that's their propaganda. But there are other sources that are in here, too, that maybe they're just repeating the IDF. But there's information and people appear to be publishing receipts here of, you know, databases and things where he had been identified. And by the way, regardless us of how you feel about this and journalists in war, which is a different topic. On this particular one, they're pointing out that, you know, in the dirty trick department, Hamas has got quite the resume and hiding behind civilians, hiding in hospitals, under hospitals, posing as doctors,
Starting point is 01:44:58 and posing as media, Hamas does this. And so would it surprise you? And so would it surprise me that this journalist was actually a leader of a minor cell and when his cover got blown then people are saying oh it's a smear campaign by Israelis it's a smear campaign
Starting point is 01:45:20 he really was this well maybe his cover got blown he got outed and so what I mean outed as a member of Hamas you know what's that picture Rob? Yeah well here's what I was going to say where is he? He's the guy in the middle that doesn't look anything like him
Starting point is 01:45:35 that's the guy I don't think that that that doesn't look like the guy to me the guy that just we just saw that Rob showed that doesn't look like that guy yes it does a couple years different
Starting point is 01:45:45 that's him a couple pounds different well regardless here's what's happening right now I just went on Amazon and I just bought a nice little
Starting point is 01:45:53 journalist press kit for 1999 what I've realized is this is I don't emotionally react to stories that come out good bad or ugly I wait for the facts
Starting point is 01:46:03 to come out do I want to see actual journalists who are reporting actual real news die hell no uh we report stories here we know journalists i do not want anybody dead innocent uh journalist whatsoever but what i've realized is that there's a lot of propaganda and there's a lot of people who are embedded in society here uh who are honoring the humas this guy right here after a cover of honored to stand with our crowns so whether it was this journalist or the journalists are speaking about or any other journalist.
Starting point is 01:46:37 This is who they are. I remember a story of a journalist was found in Gaza, and they were like, oh my God, we captured this guy. They went and found his house. Three hostages were in his house. This was a journalist. So just because you're a journalist
Starting point is 01:46:51 doesn't mean you're immune from accountability. And they weren't being interviewed about the horrors of Glock. Can you ask Grock if that's actually him? I'm just curious. Okay, whether it was him or whether was his best friend, And the reality is this. Oh, so just kill him if that's his best friend? Here's what I love about Israel at this point.
Starting point is 01:47:10 They're not even denying it. They're like, no, we went after this guy. We believed that he was a terrorist. So we took him out. That's clarity to me. I don't want to see innocent people die at all. Unfortunately, it's killer be killed in the Middle East. And some people just can't understand that.
Starting point is 01:47:27 And the woke West and the woke right just don't understand. These people are coming to kill you. and it's kill or be killed. I'm sorry, that is what it is. Go for it, Vinnie. What's the thing that you said right before about the... They said that they did it because they were targeting him or... What I'm asking is, did they say that they were targeting him after the fact?
Starting point is 01:47:51 Like, oh, yeah, we were going after for this guy. Or was it an accident? No, Adam, I actually read the news. I don't sit in the car and watch the news on the way here. I actually stay up until 1 o'clock in the morning and I actually do my research and I did a bunch of research. And I just found out that they... are nice freedom fighters
Starting point is 01:48:05 and they're beautiful humans. Very good talking point. What do you find? I love the fact that when you're just asking questions, I'm either a Hamas supporter or I'm going to be anti-Semitic. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Make your point. It's the neither. What I'm saying is, you can't even, they banned reporters from even being in Gaza. They banned international reporters. How are you supposed to know?
Starting point is 01:48:27 Why are you banning them? If you have nothing to hide, let us see what the hell is going on. Because these reporters work for a company called Al Jazeera. Where's Al Jazeera? but Adam bomb every you don't just bomb a tent with zero next to a hospital and then just go yeah he worked for Hamas and I'm not saying listen I don't know the facts Adam but what I'm saying is if you're not letting
Starting point is 01:48:44 who killed who killed who has killed the most who has killed the most reporters Pat did we do the number Tom what is that Syria did yeah this is I'm so we have that we can just you can search for it there's Israel defense forces Tom that's like there's there's others too there's another there's another media outlet that was Maya TV or everything, and it may be parroting the IDF thing, but there's people that are out there publishing receipts on this that appear to be receipts. I don't know the validity of it, but you know what? There's a heck of a lot going on here. Look, is this the first, just do this logically, Vinnie.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Is this the first reporter to die in the armed engagement over there, to be in the wrong place at the wrong time? In the wrong place in the wrong time? No. So let's assume their reporter, not the first. then why is there so much static on this one? That's what I'm asking. Why is there so much, so much fuzz?
Starting point is 01:49:44 Like somebody shook up a roofier and opened it. It only killed five reporters. It only killed five reporters reporting on what's happening on the ground. It kind of bothers me that there's so much buzz on this reporter. No, Tom, it shouldn't be. I don't think it's just about this reporter. I think it's just for the past two weeks, all I've been hearing and seeing is
Starting point is 01:50:04 are you saying like this is a George Floyd thing they're capitalizing off of? Yeah or something and why is there so much buzz on this guy to say it was so many sources unless the IDF is just doing the most amazing marketing between Saturday and Sunday pushing out all these fake receipts
Starting point is 01:50:20 and everybody else is posting on Pat that seems weird to me why is it so important to say that this reporter was there? Do you do you trust Muslims more than Israel, do you trust the report coming out of Gaza, Palestine, more than reports coming from Israel? I don't think you believe anything Israel says.
Starting point is 01:50:46 I'm not saying, I'm not saying I don't believe that. I don't believe, hold on, I don't believe anything unless I'm shown the evidence, okay? And what I've been seeing. I don't know about that. I think there's also, like I've never heard you make a pro-Israel argument ever. I've never heard you make a pro-Israel argument. So to me, the reason why I'm going with this is the following one. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:51:08 So for me, if you came in, notice what I said when we were prepping. I said, is it true that Israel, the last two years, has killed the most journalists? I'm the one that asked that question this morning, pre-getting started. So it's not like I'm coming in on fire like, because this is what I saw. Let's look at it. And I had Rob pull it up. Then Syria came up. But Syria was since 2011.
Starting point is 01:51:31 But the last two years was Israel. U.S. was on the list that's third place. Top three countries were Syria, Israel, and us, right? Okay, great. But I think the part that, you know, you lose is when it's no matter what, it's all one side. We're at dinner. This guy is defending Nick Fuentes. I'm like, what is Adam defending Nick Fuentes on?
Starting point is 01:51:58 He said, I got more respect for Nick Fuentes than anybody else that's saying stuff that they're saying about Israel, right? You have to be very careful. More respect for Nick versus Tucker's, I think of what I said. Right, no, specific that community is it was what? Fuentes, Candice, and Tucker, and Nick has been saying what he's been saying a lot longer
Starting point is 01:52:17 than they have been saying it, right? So, okay. And what was his premise on the respect? Well, he says what he believes in. That's Adam's point, right? He hasn't shifted. Yeah. I think the biggest thing here is, you know, it's almost,
Starting point is 01:52:28 become like, if a white man is killed by a black man, CNN won't report on it. But if God forbid, Jussie Smollett, anything George, oh my God, boom, it goes on there, right? You have to find a way to, because if I, look what's going on right now in Europe. How bad do you think Europe's about to get? Europe is going to fall apart. And you know what's after Europe? We're after Canada. No, they're going to come here surrounding it
Starting point is 01:52:59 and then they're going to try to target here. What is Mamdani doing? What is another guy that I think one I was watching this video? This is UK right now. I don't even know if we want to play this clip. There's a lot of profanity. It's just a lot of stuff like this that you can see.
Starting point is 01:53:12 But to me, it's, you have to be very careful that you only follow accounts. Like when I wake up in the morning, what account do I go and watch to see what they're saying? I go to CNN. because I want to see what counter arguments are being made there blind spots
Starting point is 01:53:31 but if you wake up and you just go to a couple things of guys you follow because that's what you want to hear because it validates what you believe in you'll end up having a lot of blind spots and I don't want to stop blind spots and that includes myself I have my own bias as well
Starting point is 01:53:45 so I'm not sitting in telling you I don't have any biases but if I have to choose between the two it's not even close the conversation of what's going to be happening. It's not even close. And even yesterday, Trump said that they're going to take over Gaza. I don't know if you saw that that happened yesterday.
Starting point is 01:54:02 Trump just said, yeah, how are you going to take over Gaza? We're just going to take over Gaza. How are you going to do it? We're just going to take it over. How can you do that? Under what jurisdiction? Under the U.S. jurisdiction? I don't know if you saw that or not.
Starting point is 01:54:12 I don't even know what he's doing behind closed doors. We don't even know what things are taking place. But we have to be very careful that the only thing we ever, ever see is this the one rap yes sir yeah can you play this right don't want to leave their land some people say this is ethnic cleansing you won't be able to force them to leave the land this we're moving into a beautiful location where they have new homes where they can
Starting point is 01:54:41 live safely where they have doctors and medical and all of those things and I think it's going to be great yeah any questions said before that the US would buy Gaza and today you just said we're not going to buy Gaza. We're not going to have to buy. We're going to have Gaza. We don't have to buy. There's nothing to buy. Uh, we will have Gaza. What is that? No reason to buy. There is nothing to buy. It's Gaza. It's, it's a war-torn area. We're going to take it. We're going to hold it. We're going to cherish it. And Mr. Biden, take it under what? Under what's a one authority? Under the U.S.S.
Starting point is 01:55:16 So with so many opinions out there, I mean, I, if you asked me 10 years ago, If I would just trust Trump's instincts, I'll say, hell no, at this point, if there's one person who has all the information, whose instincts that I trust, it's one person and it's Donald Trump. I'm sorry. I didn't feel that way before. I feel that way now. And that's on most issues, if not all. So, including the Gaza one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:43 I think you just, you know, it's very, very hard. Like on my Instagram stories, I'm tagged. You know how you go to see what stories you're tagged on? stories, videos, videos, videos, videos, videos are just, you don't even know what's going on over here, what they're doing. I'm like, yeah, you're going to only send me one side. None of the videos are easy to watch.
Starting point is 01:56:02 And then I get messages from Israel. You don't know what's going on over here, and I got it yesterday. I won't give any names, but, you know, these are people that aren't Israel saying, you don't even know what they're doing to the Christians and to this or this. I'm also not fully there. But I have the ability to watch both sides,
Starting point is 01:56:18 and I understand why you're sending me the clips to say what, you know, Palestinians are doing to Christians and Jews, and I understand why you would send me the clips to say what Jews are doing to Gaza and Palestinians. You have to find a way to not be emotionally caught up because then you are a victim of propaganda, and they got you. Hook, line, sinker, you're done. And all you see is that.
Starting point is 01:56:42 And I'm seeing, believe it or not, more and more people now kind of stepping away and saying, oh, shit, I got a little bit in too deep here. let me step back a little bit and see what happened neither side is innocent but this side is definitely not innocent with the history that they have if they're so great why isn't nobody else from the other side taking them you keep coming back more this way and I get that you know the motive of the other side where they're at what they're up to
Starting point is 01:57:10 but you have to be very very careful that you only see and hear and read what you want to see and read that validates your point because then you have so many blind spots so many and you can't be reasonable now you're just fighting to be right now you're just fighting to be right one of the best things about this exercise of sitting with the guys last week this whatever not last week jubilee jubilee you know what was great about it to sit and talk to a bunch of 20 year olds one guy was probably 45 50 years I don't know why he was there but to sit and talk to all these other guys that are students it's also to see okay that's an interesting argument let me go look into that like i myself have things to go look
Starting point is 01:57:54 into after the conversation with them to say why did they say this what was this okay got it this one well this got a good point here one of the guys had a good point that i brought them back at the end to debate it but i can't just go thinking i'm going to beat everybody in this no because then you'll never learn you'll only be one-sided can we finish with a laugh yeah and then rob can you play this clip here so let me tell you guys what this clip is this is a guy by the way ladies and gentlemen if you got kids this is not the part for them to hear because there's some profanity
Starting point is 01:58:24 this guy decides to call his friends and tell him sweet dreams and his friends are like what have you seen this? Not at all of course it's amazing. Have you seen this time or no? The fact that you haven't seen this is going to make it even better. Go ahead, Rob.
Starting point is 01:58:39 Yo, it was good, bro. What you got going? Why was that? No, I'll just call and tell you good night, bro. Sweet dreams. Hello? What? Yeah, what do you mean? Good night.
Starting point is 01:58:53 I'm about to lay down, bro. I'm about to get in the bed. I just want to get in the bed. I just want to talk to you good night, though. Sweet dreams. Night, baby. Nogger, why the hell you caught?
Starting point is 01:58:59 Why are you telling you tonight? I hope you sleep tight, bro. What? What do you mean? You want me to sleep nuts? All right, I'm going to talk to you tomorrow, man. Sweet dreams. Where do you, where you have going?
Starting point is 01:59:14 What? What's going? What's going? Are you good? Are you good? Yeah, bro, I just, I can't, I can't wish did you sleep good tonight, bro? Nika, what in the hell have you ever wished to do you? All right, bro.
Starting point is 01:59:31 I'm going to sleep tight, so I'm going to hollet you. All right, bro. Nighty night, play. Don't call my phone doing this. You know what? Where's the red band on me? That's so far. So then he calls another guy.
Starting point is 01:59:44 Look at the dog. What a great prank. He calls us. He said, what a red button out on this. By the way, there's multiple of these that have gone viral like this. One more.
Starting point is 01:59:55 He said, I want to do one more. He's having so much fun with it. What's good, bro? What's you got going on? Yeah, I just on the phone with my boy, anything I can. Yeah, bro, I just want to call and tell you good night, bro.
Starting point is 02:00:04 Sweet dream. What fuck be you talking about? Yeah, bro. I'm about to lay it down. I just want to call and tell you good night, bro. I hope you sleep tight tonight. Yeah, I'm not, I love you too, money.
Starting point is 02:00:22 You didn't have done. It's been so many nights since I've seen you. Bye, you haven't called me to say good night, but tonight you're the fucking night, you want to call me and say good night. What's happening? Are you all right? Yeah, Brad, just hope you have, you have sweet dreams tonight. I'm going to have sweet dreams, so I hope you do, too.
Starting point is 02:00:41 You want to hug, niggins like that? You're going to hang up, Rob. You're going to hang up, right? It's just hilarious, man. These pranks that they put. poll, that guy had me going, randomly. Anyways, sweet dreams. Guys, do me a favor, Rob.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Can you run a quick poll on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, or Tuesday, Thursday? Okay, we're going with this for a couple weeks. See what happens between now and the vault. But which do you prefer? Monday, Wednesday, Friday model, or Tuesday, Thursday model? Because after today, we're not going to do podcasts tomorrow like we usually do. We're going straight to Wednesday. And if we won't do Thursday, we'll go to Friday.
Starting point is 02:01:14 But run the last poll, I'm curious, guys, if you can comment on it. And aside from that gang, it's been great spending time with you guys. We will do this again on Wednesday, 9 a.m. added to your calendar. We're trying to get started as close to 9 o'clock as possible. Today we went 9.04. And hopefully we'll get Wednesday right off the bat at 9 o'clock sharp. So what are they saying? They are saying Monday, Wednesday, Friday still.
Starting point is 02:01:40 We'll see. Let's let this play out. It's going to stay in the 80s. Hey, everybody, sweet dreams out there. Good, God bless everybody. Take care. Bye, bye, bye, bye. Good nighty night.

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